1 00:00:09,793 --> 00:00:11,962 Go, go, go! 2 00:00:18,093 --> 00:00:19,928 - Doors closed! - Stay inside! 3 00:00:23,182 --> 00:00:25,934 Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god! 4 00:00:25,934 --> 00:00:28,479 - Oh my god, oh my god... - Help me, someone! 5 00:00:28,479 --> 00:00:30,105 We gotta get her! I'm not leaving her here! 6 00:00:30,105 --> 00:00:31,773 ‐ Oh, and I would? ‐ Of course you would! 7 00:00:31,773 --> 00:00:33,025 ‐ Of course I would! 8 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:42,493 ‐ It's not what you think. 9 00:00:50,667 --> 00:00:52,544 Here's a thing I don't get. 10 00:00:52,544 --> 00:00:54,880 People who worry about living in a big city 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,965 because of all the crime. 12 00:00:56,965 --> 00:00:59,635 As any true crime aficionado will tell you, 13 00:00:59,635 --> 00:01:02,638 it's the boondocks you need to worry about. 14 00:01:02,638 --> 00:01:06,433 I mean, let's face it. Nobody ever discovered 19 bodies buried 15 00:01:06,433 --> 00:01:10,229 in the backyard of a 14‐story apartment building. 16 00:01:10,229 --> 00:01:12,981 There's eyes on you all over the place here. 17 00:01:12,981 --> 00:01:16,151 And New Yorkers have a special way of communicating. 18 00:01:16,944 --> 00:01:19,780 And by special, I mean direct. 19 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:23,116 We're packed in tight and stacked on top of each other 20 00:01:23,116 --> 00:01:24,576 like those of us who live... 21 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:27,287 at the Arconia. 22 00:01:29,623 --> 00:01:31,166 ‐ Hey, hold up. Wait, are you... 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,586 ‐ I'm Brazzos. Oh shit, dude! 24 00:01:34,586 --> 00:01:36,588 I used to watch that show with my dad 25 00:01:36,588 --> 00:01:38,507 when I was a kid! That was his favorite! 26 00:01:38,507 --> 00:01:39,967 Wait, what was that thing you always said? 27 00:01:41,844 --> 00:01:44,513 ‐ This sends the investigation into a whole new direction. 28 00:01:44,513 --> 00:01:46,056 That's it, man! That's it! 29 00:01:46,056 --> 00:01:48,058 Oh shit! So cool. 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,478 Dad's got ALS now. 31 00:01:52,271 --> 00:01:54,481 He can't really talk or... 32 00:01:54,481 --> 00:01:56,692 feed himself anymore. ‐ I'm sorry. 33 00:01:57,693 --> 00:01:59,194 ‐ He's in hospice, but... 34 00:02:00,821 --> 00:02:02,823 he just won't let go, you know? 35 00:02:03,574 --> 00:02:06,577 And, honestly, it'd be, like, better for my whole family if... 36 00:02:07,619 --> 00:02:09,037 if he would. 37 00:02:11,415 --> 00:02:14,168 - ‐ You want a photo? - Yes! Of course! 38 00:02:14,168 --> 00:02:16,420 Yes! That'd be awesome. Thanks, man! 39 00:02:19,089 --> 00:02:21,508 ‐ Actually, could you do it landscape? 40 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:23,719 - Turn it sideways. - Better if you turn it there. Yeah. 41 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:25,721 That's good, that's good. Yep. 42 00:02:27,514 --> 00:02:29,683 ‐ You tell your dad Brazzos took that picture. 43 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:32,769 ‐ I will, I will, but he won't understand, you know? 44 00:02:32,769 --> 00:02:33,812 Not anymore. 45 00:02:36,064 --> 00:02:38,358 - ‐ Bye. - Thanks, man. Thanks a lot. 46 00:02:41,862 --> 00:02:44,656 New York can be a fucking lot. 47 00:02:44,656 --> 00:02:47,034 All the eyes on you all the time. 48 00:02:47,034 --> 00:02:48,869 ‐ Hey, baby. Where you going so tough? 49 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:52,122 Two thousand women report assaults here every year, 50 00:02:52,122 --> 00:02:54,416 so it's a place that makes you binge Dateline 51 00:02:54,416 --> 00:02:57,169 to find out how not to end up on Dateline. 52 00:02:57,169 --> 00:02:59,004 I have this recurring dream. 53 00:02:59,004 --> 00:03:02,007 I'm in bed, I wake up, 54 00:03:02,007 --> 00:03:04,051 and there's a man standing over me. 55 00:03:04,384 --> 00:03:07,137 So, I kick him right in the nuts, and I grab my knitting needle... 56 00:03:07,137 --> 00:03:09,223 ...and I take him down 57 00:03:09,223 --> 00:03:10,516 to the bone with that thing. 58 00:03:10,516 --> 00:03:12,726 Sometimes, when I can't sleep, 59 00:03:12,726 --> 00:03:15,229 I imagine brutally murdering that dude. 60 00:03:16,063 --> 00:03:19,274 And I'm out like a light. Works every time. 61 00:03:19,274 --> 00:03:22,861 As I said, it's a lot. Don't be here if you don't like a lot. 62 00:03:26,907 --> 00:03:29,910 "NYC. What is it about you?" 63 00:03:30,536 --> 00:03:34,206 Which, of course, is a line from a big hit show about an orphan. 64 00:03:34,206 --> 00:03:37,251 And don't we all feel like orphans here at times, 65 00:03:37,251 --> 00:03:39,670 struggling to find our place? 66 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:43,465 I saw this brilliant dance piece on the worldwide web recently, 67 00:03:43,465 --> 00:03:45,425 set to Clair de Lune. 68 00:03:46,885 --> 00:03:49,471 A simple premise of a man trying to reach 69 00:03:49,471 --> 00:03:51,890 the top of a staircase and falling, 70 00:03:51,890 --> 00:03:54,434 but always trying to find some new way 71 00:03:54,434 --> 00:03:56,854 to bounce back up again. 72 00:03:56,854 --> 00:03:58,814 And I thought, isn't that each of us, 73 00:03:59,398 --> 00:04:01,733 every day in this big burg? 74 00:04:01,733 --> 00:04:03,026 That's life in New‐‐ 75 00:04:03,026 --> 00:04:05,571 Really?! 76 00:04:05,571 --> 00:04:08,323 Do you not see this coat!? 77 00:04:08,323 --> 00:04:11,994 Still, one thing is certain in this town. 78 00:04:12,828 --> 00:04:15,664 Just when it's all starting to feel the same, 79 00:04:15,664 --> 00:04:17,666 that's when you get hit by something 80 00:04:17,666 --> 00:04:20,127 you never saw coming. 81 00:05:14,473 --> 00:05:16,350 Hey, Lester. 82 00:05:17,184 --> 00:05:19,228 Oh, Ursula, my darling. 83 00:05:19,228 --> 00:05:22,147 Anything for me? ‐ Yep. Save me a trip. 84 00:05:23,106 --> 00:05:26,401 ‐ Oh. Yeah, this is all research for shows I'm developing. 85 00:05:26,401 --> 00:05:28,946 Some off‐, some off‐off, you know? 86 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:33,116 Stay out of the theater if you want a life, Ursula. Trust me. 87 00:05:37,663 --> 00:05:39,039 Hold it! 88 00:05:40,749 --> 00:05:43,252 Ah! Oh! Sorry. Thanks. 89 00:05:43,252 --> 00:05:44,753 I just‐‐ Ooh! 90 00:05:44,753 --> 00:05:46,088 Ah! Got it. 91 00:05:46,505 --> 00:05:48,090 Sorry, I'm just, uh, I‐I have 92 00:05:48,090 --> 00:05:50,592 an important thing a little bit later‐‐ ‐ Yeah, me, too. 93 00:05:51,468 --> 00:05:52,970 ‐ Oh, hello. 94 00:05:53,846 --> 00:05:56,557 Filming something today? ‐ I'm sorry? 95 00:05:56,557 --> 00:05:58,183 ‐ All the makeup, I just assumed. 96 00:05:58,934 --> 00:06:00,936 ‐ I'm not wearing makeup. 97 00:06:01,770 --> 00:06:03,772 ‐ Oh. Okay. 98 00:06:03,772 --> 00:06:05,232 Me neither. 99 00:06:15,284 --> 00:06:16,827 Is it 5:00 yet, do you know? 100 00:06:16,827 --> 00:06:18,579 ‐ No. ‐ No. 101 00:06:20,706 --> 00:06:22,541 ‐ Tim Kono. 102 00:06:22,541 --> 00:06:24,418 With a K. Yes. 103 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,506 Do you see anything you got in today's packages? 104 00:06:30,382 --> 00:06:33,010 Okay. I don't know why this keeps happening. 105 00:06:33,010 --> 00:06:35,012 Well, this one is very important to me. 106 00:06:35,846 --> 00:06:37,890 How early tomorrow? ‐ 107 00:06:48,317 --> 00:06:50,110 ‐ Do you like your Beats? 108 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:58,076 I had a yellow pair. I just loved them so much. 109 00:06:58,076 --> 00:06:59,787 And then, like an idiot, 110 00:06:59,787 --> 00:07:01,371 I leave them on the subway. 111 00:07:01,371 --> 00:07:03,290 The thing is, when you lose something on the subway, 112 00:07:03,290 --> 00:07:05,542 you‐you don't know‐‐ Ding! 113 00:07:08,921 --> 00:07:11,173 Even the elevator wanted that story to end. 114 00:07:13,383 --> 00:07:15,385 ‐ Come on, Winnie. 115 00:07:17,930 --> 00:07:19,223 Winnie. No. 116 00:07:40,953 --> 00:07:42,788 Okay. 117 00:07:58,512 --> 00:08:01,515 You're listening to All Is Not OK In Oklahoma, 118 00:08:01,515 --> 00:08:02,975 from Cinda Canning. 119 00:08:02,975 --> 00:08:05,394 Funding is provided by our sponsors, 120 00:08:05,394 --> 00:08:08,272 The Rand Corporation, the Milton and Miriam Swann Foundation 121 00:08:08,272 --> 00:08:10,691 for the Arts and for Dissolving the Federal Reserve, 122 00:08:10,691 --> 00:08:12,484 and Trader Joe's. 123 00:08:12,484 --> 00:08:14,862 With additional support from Royal Crown Cruises, 124 00:08:14,862 --> 00:08:16,738 the Royal Crown Prince of Dubai, 125 00:08:16,738 --> 00:08:18,323 and listeners like you. 126 00:08:18,323 --> 00:08:20,117 And now, here's Cinda Canning 127 00:08:20,117 --> 00:08:23,412 with episode six of All Is Not OK In Oklahoma. 128 00:08:27,666 --> 00:08:30,002 When Ray Butler walked me into the woods 129 00:08:30,002 --> 00:08:32,129 behind his barn that night in Chickasha 130 00:08:32,129 --> 00:08:34,548 I wasn't expecting to find anything 131 00:08:34,548 --> 00:08:36,842 related to the disappearance of his niece, Becky. 132 00:08:38,552 --> 00:08:41,263 I was thinking more about Ray's unorthodox clothing choice 133 00:08:41,263 --> 00:08:42,931 for farm living. 134 00:08:44,850 --> 00:08:47,478 But that all changed because of what was going on 135 00:08:47,478 --> 00:08:49,646 next to the riverbed, 136 00:08:49,646 --> 00:08:52,065 where Ray's old Lab, Bo, 137 00:08:52,065 --> 00:08:54,943 was digging at something in the dirt. 138 00:08:57,029 --> 00:08:58,739 Once he got his dug‐up prize, 139 00:08:58,739 --> 00:09:02,117 Bo ran proudly to me with it dangling in his mouth. 140 00:09:03,827 --> 00:09:06,997 It took a moment to absorb what it was, 141 00:09:06,997 --> 00:09:10,334 but then, it became all too clear. 142 00:09:10,334 --> 00:09:12,961 Bo had found... 143 00:09:14,379 --> 00:09:15,380 ‐ Shit! 144 00:09:15,380 --> 00:09:17,591 ‐ My gah... No. 145 00:09:20,385 --> 00:09:22,387 Yeah! That's good. 146 00:09:47,955 --> 00:09:50,582 ‐ Lester, is this real? ‐ I don't know. We're finding out. 147 00:09:57,631 --> 00:10:00,134 Even in a steady Oklahoma rain, 148 00:10:00,134 --> 00:10:01,718 I was transfixed... 149 00:10:01,718 --> 00:10:04,721 ‐ Well, look who got the last booth! 150 00:10:06,431 --> 00:10:09,852 But all that changed because of what was going on next to the riverbed. 151 00:10:09,852 --> 00:10:13,021 ‐ Listen, if I've ever offended you 152 00:10:13,021 --> 00:10:15,899 during any of the many times you've auditioned for me, 153 00:10:15,899 --> 00:10:18,735 then‐‐ ‐ I've never auditioned for you. 154 00:10:20,028 --> 00:10:21,530 ‐ Oh, you're not Scott Bakula? 155 00:10:22,447 --> 00:10:23,949 ‐ I am not. 156 00:10:24,366 --> 00:10:27,327 ‐ Oh! You're the other one. Got it. 157 00:10:27,744 --> 00:10:29,788 Well, listen, I‐I won't say a word, 158 00:10:29,788 --> 00:10:33,709 but my, uh, favorite podcast just dropped a new episode tonight, and‐‐ 159 00:10:40,757 --> 00:10:43,093 ‐ What does Bo have in his mouth? 160 00:10:43,093 --> 00:10:44,761 ‐ I don't know! 161 00:10:46,472 --> 00:10:47,764 Oh... 162 00:10:52,144 --> 00:10:54,146 Exc... 163 00:10:55,105 --> 00:10:57,900 ‐ Do you know if there's any available? ‐ I'm sorry. We're totally booked... 164 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:00,152 ‐ Hey! Come over! 165 00:11:01,153 --> 00:11:02,905 ‐ Thank you. 166 00:11:02,905 --> 00:11:04,823 ‐ Yeah! 167 00:11:04,823 --> 00:11:07,284 Sit down! Half the building's in here. 168 00:11:07,284 --> 00:11:09,953 I'm Oliver, by the way. Oliver Putnam. 169 00:11:09,953 --> 00:11:12,122 ‐ Charles. Charles‐Haden Savage. 170 00:11:12,122 --> 00:11:14,333 ‐ Hey. I'm Mabel. 171 00:11:14,333 --> 00:11:16,585 ‐ No, really. What is‐‐ Oh. 172 00:11:16,585 --> 00:11:18,086 A great old school name. 173 00:11:18,545 --> 00:11:20,589 ‐ Get out. 174 00:11:20,589 --> 00:11:22,800 What the fuck is in Bo's mouth? 175 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,635 Becky's panties! 176 00:11:24,635 --> 00:11:27,346 ‐ It is not Ray. Too obvious. ‐ Exactly. 177 00:11:27,346 --> 00:11:29,223 ‐ Absolutely. Listen, I'm just relieved 178 00:11:29,223 --> 00:11:32,142 that something of Becky Butler showed up somewhere. 179 00:11:32,142 --> 00:11:33,936 I almost forgot who went missing. 180 00:11:33,936 --> 00:11:35,687 They took too long with it. 181 00:11:35,687 --> 00:11:37,940 Student Council president, 182 00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:40,275 "she had a smile that would light up a room," blah blah blah. 183 00:11:40,275 --> 00:11:42,611 Yeah, yeah. Listen, I am all for a good peeling of the onion, 184 00:11:42,611 --> 00:11:45,113 but let's pace it up, people. Please. 185 00:11:46,657 --> 00:11:48,659 To that point... 186 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,455 who are you, you fascinating creature? 187 00:11:53,455 --> 00:11:56,792 I mean, we got our places 30 years ago when the Arconia was affordable, 188 00:11:56,792 --> 00:11:59,086 but you? Do your parents have a place there‐‐ 189 00:11:59,086 --> 00:12:02,047 ‐ Good god! You don't have to answer that, Mabel. 190 00:12:02,047 --> 00:12:05,384 I mean‐‐ I mean unless you want to because I'm also curious. 191 00:12:07,302 --> 00:12:10,097 ‐ How do I know you? ‐ Oh, Charles was in 192 00:12:10,097 --> 00:12:12,599 an old TV series, many, many years ago. 193 00:12:12,599 --> 00:12:15,519 What was it called? Uh, Bozos. ‐ Brazzos. 194 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:19,189 ‐ Oh... Okay. 195 00:12:19,189 --> 00:12:22,234 ‐ As for me, uh, 196 00:12:22,234 --> 00:12:25,612 directing is my day job. I'm sure you're aware. 197 00:12:27,364 --> 00:12:30,075 But, uh, my grandchildren... 198 00:12:32,286 --> 00:12:33,454 they're my passion. 199 00:12:33,912 --> 00:12:36,415 I just wish I had more time to spend with them. 200 00:12:37,458 --> 00:12:39,334 That's really all we want, isn't it? 201 00:12:39,334 --> 00:12:41,462 More time with the people we love. 202 00:12:41,462 --> 00:12:44,214 ‐ I literally pass him in the elevator once a month, just so you know. 203 00:12:45,424 --> 00:12:46,508 Anyway, 204 00:12:46,508 --> 00:12:49,595 those are our proverbial onions. 205 00:12:49,595 --> 00:12:52,556 Raw and peeled. And yours? 206 00:12:52,556 --> 00:12:53,974 Care to peel for us? 207 00:12:54,975 --> 00:12:56,602 ‐ I do not. 208 00:12:56,602 --> 00:12:58,353 - Can I? - Absolutely not. 209 00:12:58,353 --> 00:13:01,356 ‐ No, no. Thank you so much. 210 00:13:01,356 --> 00:13:02,441 ‐ Thank you. 211 00:13:03,650 --> 00:13:05,360 Hi, baby. 212 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,362 Oh! That's a real dog. 213 00:13:07,362 --> 00:13:08,405 Yeah, yeah. 214 00:13:18,373 --> 00:13:20,209 Look at this. 215 00:13:21,627 --> 00:13:24,213 Lester, what the hell? ‐ Found someone dead. 216 00:13:24,213 --> 00:13:25,506 ‐ What? 217 00:13:25,506 --> 00:13:27,549 ‐ Sounds like they offed themselves. 218 00:13:27,549 --> 00:13:29,259 - ‐ You're kidding me. - Ninth floor. 219 00:13:29,259 --> 00:13:30,511 Can't let anyone in. 220 00:13:30,511 --> 00:13:32,971 ‐ We can't go to our apartments? ‐ No, sir. Sorry. 221 00:13:36,350 --> 00:13:39,228 ‐ Did he say the ninth floor? ‐ Yeah. 222 00:13:39,228 --> 00:13:42,397 ‐ I could get us to the freight elevator, 223 00:13:42,397 --> 00:13:44,358 just to take a peek. 224 00:13:46,109 --> 00:13:47,986 ‐ Just to see what's happening. 225 00:13:47,986 --> 00:13:50,364 ‐ Okay. But, we should take it to eight. 226 00:13:50,364 --> 00:13:51,448 ‐ Why? 227 00:13:52,115 --> 00:13:53,784 ‐ They'll have cops posted on nine. 228 00:13:54,827 --> 00:13:56,495 ‐ Ooh, you're good. 229 00:14:08,882 --> 00:14:11,426 ‐ Tell the captain this is a suicide. 230 00:14:13,053 --> 00:14:16,056 Alright, guys, I need you to canvass around the building. 231 00:14:37,661 --> 00:14:39,455 It's that guy from the elevator! 232 00:14:39,455 --> 00:14:42,249 Oh my god. Oh my god. It's that guy! 233 00:14:42,249 --> 00:14:44,376 It's that guy... ‐ His‐‐ His head was... 234 00:14:44,376 --> 00:14:47,671 I've seen TV dead bodies. That was‐‐ Have you ever... 235 00:14:47,671 --> 00:14:49,923 He shot himself! ‐ No, he didn't. 236 00:14:49,923 --> 00:14:51,758 We saw him, what, like an hour ago? 237 00:14:51,758 --> 00:14:54,386 Did he seem like he was gonna go do something like that? 238 00:14:57,514 --> 00:15:00,601 ‐ Oh! ‐ Are you associated with the deceased? 239 00:15:00,601 --> 00:15:03,228 ‐ No, no. We don't know him. ‐ We're neighbors in the building. 240 00:15:03,228 --> 00:15:04,646 We live in the building. 241 00:15:04,646 --> 00:15:06,857 ‐ Mm‐hmm. So, you don't know him? ‐ Just in passing. 242 00:15:06,857 --> 00:15:08,484 ‐ Not his passing. ‐ No, yes. 243 00:15:08,484 --> 00:15:10,110 When we pass by him. 244 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:11,111 ‐ Before he passed. 245 00:15:11,111 --> 00:15:13,822 ‐ That's right. Um, but are y‐‐ are you, 246 00:15:13,822 --> 00:15:15,491 uh, sure that it was suicide? 247 00:15:15,908 --> 00:15:17,326 ‐ It doesn't make sense. 248 00:15:17,326 --> 00:15:20,162 ‐ I mean, even in passing, he didn't seem the type. 249 00:15:20,162 --> 00:15:23,457 ‐ So, you don't know him. Look, 250 00:15:23,457 --> 00:15:25,042 you're probably just starting your investigation, 251 00:15:25,042 --> 00:15:27,961 looking into all the forensics‐‐ ‐ Goddammit. 252 00:15:27,961 --> 00:15:31,423 What fuckin' podcast are you all hooked on? Huh? 253 00:15:31,423 --> 00:15:33,759 I swear to God, if I meet 254 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:36,011 one more true crime nut... 255 00:15:36,011 --> 00:15:38,806 This is suicide. It's textbook. 256 00:15:38,806 --> 00:15:42,142 Residue powder on the hands, evidence of financial stress. 257 00:15:42,142 --> 00:15:44,728 We even found a note on his laptop saying he's outta here, 258 00:15:44,728 --> 00:15:48,565 which is exactly where you all need to be. 259 00:15:48,565 --> 00:15:50,359 ‐ What if‐‐ ‐ Nuh‐uh, it's not. 260 00:15:50,359 --> 00:15:53,570 ‐ B‐b‐but, y‐y‐you‐‐ ‐ No, no, no, no, no. It's not. 261 00:15:53,570 --> 00:15:57,324 So, go on ahead and enjoy your cute little lives, 262 00:15:57,324 --> 00:15:59,368 and be glad that you still have one. 263 00:16:00,953 --> 00:16:04,456 You goddamn true crime fuckin' numb‐nuts. 264 00:16:44,163 --> 00:16:45,956 ‐ The motherfucking garbage bag! 265 00:16:45,956 --> 00:16:47,624 ‐ Why would he get on the elevator with that? 266 00:16:47,624 --> 00:16:50,085 There's a chute on every floor. What was in there? 267 00:16:55,174 --> 00:16:56,633 ‐ We all have the same thought? 268 00:16:56,633 --> 00:16:58,844 The garbage bag! 269 00:16:59,428 --> 00:17:01,513 ‐ Ah. Different thought. 270 00:17:01,513 --> 00:17:03,557 We should do our own podcast. 271 00:17:03,557 --> 00:17:07,436 I'm sure that every true crime podcaster wishes that he was on the case 272 00:17:07,436 --> 00:17:08,562 right from the start. 273 00:17:08,562 --> 00:17:10,898 And here we are, w‐‐ 274 00:17:10,898 --> 00:17:13,025 You know what? I should be recording this right now. 275 00:17:13,025 --> 00:17:14,818 ‐ Well right now, the only thing that matters is that 276 00:17:14,818 --> 00:17:17,029 there's a killer on the loose if we're right, 277 00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:19,364 and he could be living somewhere in our building. 278 00:17:19,364 --> 00:17:21,533 ‐ Oh, that is a very good line. 279 00:17:21,533 --> 00:17:24,578 Badly delivered, but a good line. So, do it again for me, 280 00:17:24,578 --> 00:17:28,248 and this is what I need. I want you to really hit killer. 281 00:17:28,248 --> 00:17:29,708 You know? Just killer. 282 00:17:29,708 --> 00:17:31,585 ‐ There's a killer loose somewhere‐‐ 283 00:17:31,585 --> 00:17:32,961 ‐ No need to scream. ‐ That's too hard. 284 00:17:32,961 --> 00:17:35,339 ‐ You know what I need you to do? Really punch 285 00:17:35,339 --> 00:17:37,341 somewhere. ‐ There's a... 286 00:17:38,008 --> 00:17:40,010 Gimme an action. ‐ Action. 287 00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:42,095 ‐ Killer on the loose somewhere. 288 00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:44,181 ‐ Okay, do it again, but slower, 289 00:17:44,181 --> 00:17:45,557 and with, you know, 290 00:17:45,557 --> 00:17:47,351 like a human... 291 00:17:47,351 --> 00:17:49,728 ‐ "If there's anyone left to care, 292 00:17:49,728 --> 00:17:51,855 there is nothing for me anymore." 293 00:17:57,319 --> 00:17:58,529 Is that... 294 00:17:59,029 --> 00:18:01,698 "I'm just tired of feeling lonely. 295 00:18:03,784 --> 00:18:06,453 I don't want to be lonely anymore." 296 00:18:07,496 --> 00:18:10,624 ‐ This is his. There's mail in here to Tim Kono. 297 00:18:10,624 --> 00:18:12,584 And other notes! 298 00:18:12,584 --> 00:18:15,295 Attempts to get his last words right? 299 00:18:17,089 --> 00:18:19,091 Looks like we have our answer. 300 00:18:20,384 --> 00:18:23,470 ‐ So, that's it? We're done? 301 00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:25,722 No podcast. 302 00:18:25,722 --> 00:18:27,850 ‐ Back to Oklahoma. 303 00:18:36,316 --> 00:18:38,735 I read the script. My character has no lines, 304 00:18:38,735 --> 00:18:40,028 not one. 305 00:18:42,072 --> 00:18:45,159 Wait, they want someone who looks like Brazzos, 306 00:18:45,159 --> 00:18:47,411 and they want me to audition for this? 307 00:19:01,383 --> 00:19:03,385 Well, I'm not that late. 308 00:19:04,011 --> 00:19:06,013 Can we get the four‐top by the window? 309 00:19:08,223 --> 00:19:11,518 I'll get the Caesar with the balsamic and the double croutons. 310 00:19:12,144 --> 00:19:14,646 You need to ask for a bigger table. 311 00:19:16,106 --> 00:19:17,524 I have my grocery cart. 312 00:19:17,941 --> 00:19:20,402 Tell them it's Bunny. They know me. 313 00:19:22,821 --> 00:19:24,698 ‐ I'm not always in here. 314 00:19:24,698 --> 00:19:26,784 ‐ I was just coming up to get you. 315 00:19:26,784 --> 00:19:28,744 ‐ I've got an audition. Wait a minute. 316 00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:31,038 - Is this about... - ‐ Yes. 317 00:19:31,038 --> 00:19:33,624 ‐ In or out, soft lips. I got places to be. 318 00:19:35,459 --> 00:19:37,002 ‐ Fuck 'em. I'm offer only. 319 00:19:37,002 --> 00:19:39,963 ‐ Okay, so I know what we found last night, 320 00:19:39,963 --> 00:19:42,466 but I also know me, and I can't stop thinking about this. 321 00:19:42,466 --> 00:19:45,552 ‐ Neither can I. ‐ A week ago, I saw Tim, 322 00:19:45,552 --> 00:19:49,181 the dead guy, at Bunny's apartment. ‐ Ooh, she's head of the board. 323 00:19:49,181 --> 00:19:51,934 ‐ Okay, so he was asking her about a package 324 00:19:51,934 --> 00:19:53,894 of his that she got by mistake. 325 00:19:53,894 --> 00:19:56,772 ‐ That makes sense. They're on the A‐line. I get mis‐delivered packages 326 00:19:56,772 --> 00:19:58,398 on the C‐line all the time. 327 00:19:58,398 --> 00:20:00,526 ‐ Do you remember him on the elevator saying... 328 00:20:00,526 --> 00:20:02,569 ‐ Okay. I don't know why this keeps happening. 329 00:20:02,569 --> 00:20:05,781 ‐ And it was important, and he couldn't get it... 330 00:20:05,781 --> 00:20:07,324 ‐ Well, how early tomorrow? 331 00:20:07,324 --> 00:20:08,909 ‐ Bunny's got the package. 332 00:20:08,909 --> 00:20:11,787 ‐ I have a way in. 333 00:20:15,374 --> 00:20:17,960 ‐ What the... Who are you? 334 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,754 ‐ I'm remodeling. ‐ This is a major‐‐ 335 00:20:20,754 --> 00:20:22,589 How‐how many rooms are in this? 336 00:20:22,589 --> 00:20:24,800 You're living here in the middle of a renovation? 337 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,635 ‐ Shh! Please focus. 338 00:20:28,011 --> 00:20:29,847 Look, there it is. 339 00:20:30,848 --> 00:20:32,850 A direct route into Bunny's. 340 00:20:32,850 --> 00:20:35,185 We just need to take off the grate. 341 00:20:35,185 --> 00:20:37,271 ‐ No, no, no. 342 00:20:38,105 --> 00:20:39,481 Have you forgotten? 343 00:20:41,233 --> 00:20:43,068 I'm Brazzos. 344 00:21:01,795 --> 00:21:04,256 ‐ Hey, Will! Surprise! 345 00:21:04,756 --> 00:21:06,633 Grandpa's here! ‐ Dad, it's... 346 00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:09,970 it's Sunday. Mom's got the kids. They're at the zoo. 347 00:21:09,970 --> 00:21:11,680 ‐ Oh. Right. 348 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,516 Well then, I‐I'll just leave these for them. 349 00:21:15,934 --> 00:21:18,020 New deck looks fantastic, Will. 350 00:21:18,020 --> 00:21:20,230 Yeah, the kids live out there. 351 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:21,773 ‐ Yeah, I'm sorry I missed them. 352 00:21:23,108 --> 00:21:25,611 But this is‐‐ this is a... 353 00:21:25,611 --> 00:21:27,321 good. You and I get a little... 354 00:21:28,363 --> 00:21:29,781 Jersey hang time. 355 00:21:30,449 --> 00:21:32,242 ‐ Jersey hang time? 356 00:21:33,535 --> 00:21:35,537 So, what's up? 357 00:21:38,874 --> 00:21:40,375 ‐ Do you have any milk? 358 00:21:41,001 --> 00:21:43,086 ‐ Brazzos was the son of a locksmith, 359 00:21:43,086 --> 00:21:46,089 so the crew gave me these jimmy keys as a wrap gift, season 5. 360 00:21:47,299 --> 00:21:49,927 ‐ I watched a few of those. Brazzos. 361 00:21:51,178 --> 00:21:53,180 I like the early '90s stuff. 362 00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:55,182 Sometimes, you get to see Hammer pants. 363 00:21:59,186 --> 00:22:01,188 You were good. You're a good actor. 364 00:22:03,106 --> 00:22:05,818 Have you done any other shows? ‐ Uh, I did a few pilots, 365 00:22:05,818 --> 00:22:08,445 but they didn't move forward. I don't think I test well. 366 00:22:08,445 --> 00:22:11,240 ‐ Hm. I can see that. ‐ Yeah, thank you. Wait, what? 367 00:22:11,907 --> 00:22:13,450 ‐ That's Bunny's. 368 00:22:15,077 --> 00:22:16,537 So, how's work? 369 00:22:17,955 --> 00:22:20,124 ‐ Good. It's fine. 370 00:22:20,124 --> 00:22:22,251 You know, th‐th‐there's some stuff out there. 371 00:22:22,251 --> 00:22:23,418 Yeah? ‐ Yeah. 372 00:22:24,086 --> 00:22:26,088 ‐ Did you, uh, get your next project? 373 00:22:27,381 --> 00:22:30,259 ‐ Well, I‐I thought I had something, but, uh... 374 00:22:32,761 --> 00:22:34,721 it just went away. 375 00:22:37,808 --> 00:22:38,976 So... 376 00:22:39,518 --> 00:22:41,895 Will, I'm gonna need to, um... 377 00:22:41,895 --> 00:22:43,480 ‐ Oh no... 378 00:22:44,106 --> 00:22:46,567 God... ‐ You know, I‐I‐I really did not 379 00:22:46,567 --> 00:22:48,610 want this to become 380 00:22:48,610 --> 00:22:50,571 a regular thing, but I am strapped. 381 00:22:50,571 --> 00:22:52,239 ‐ Dad... ‐ Honey, I am so... 382 00:22:52,990 --> 00:22:56,493 close on a few things. ‐ Yeah, that's what you said last time. 383 00:22:57,703 --> 00:22:59,955 ‐ How long have you lived here? ‐ Twenty‐eight years. 384 00:23:00,539 --> 00:23:02,291 ‐ But not always by yourself. 385 00:23:03,417 --> 00:23:06,003 You've been alone for 28 years? ‐ Shh... 386 00:23:06,003 --> 00:23:08,130 Alone isn't so bad. I like alone. 387 00:23:09,631 --> 00:23:11,216 Give me that smaller pick. 388 00:23:15,095 --> 00:23:17,973 My father was a Charles. I‐I'm a Junior. 389 00:23:18,557 --> 00:23:21,602 It was the most consistent refrain of my childhood 390 00:23:21,602 --> 00:23:24,354 was how much I was like him. 391 00:23:24,354 --> 00:23:26,231 And I really was. 392 00:23:26,231 --> 00:23:29,860 We were both right‐handed, but we used scissors with our left hand. 393 00:23:30,611 --> 00:23:34,531 We could both pick up just about any instrument and play it by ear. 394 00:23:34,531 --> 00:23:36,325 But give us... 395 00:23:36,325 --> 00:23:38,160 basic algebra? Forget about it. 396 00:23:39,369 --> 00:23:40,788 He turned gray at 47, 397 00:23:40,788 --> 00:23:43,081 white at 58, and, hm? 398 00:23:45,626 --> 00:23:47,544 People like my father. 399 00:23:48,253 --> 00:23:50,255 They meant it as a compliment... 400 00:23:50,923 --> 00:23:52,758 when they said I was like him, but... 401 00:23:54,718 --> 00:23:57,137 he was awful to my mother. Awful. 402 00:23:58,263 --> 00:24:00,307 He tried to make her feel... 403 00:24:00,307 --> 00:24:02,684 small. He seemed to get... 404 00:24:02,684 --> 00:24:04,603 pleasure out of it, 405 00:24:04,603 --> 00:24:06,855 making her feel silly. 406 00:24:07,731 --> 00:24:10,108 Making her feel unsure of herself. 407 00:24:12,027 --> 00:24:14,029 So, at a certain point... 408 00:24:15,072 --> 00:24:17,157 I thought, well, 409 00:24:17,157 --> 00:24:19,076 we use scissors the same way, 410 00:24:19,076 --> 00:24:21,745 and we can play any instrument the same way. 411 00:24:21,745 --> 00:24:23,247 Odds are... 412 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:26,166 Alone isn't so bad. 413 00:24:27,459 --> 00:24:28,877 Obviously, it's... 414 00:24:30,254 --> 00:24:31,964 mortifying... 415 00:24:32,923 --> 00:24:35,342 coming to you like this. I'm... 416 00:24:37,136 --> 00:24:39,471 revolted at myself. 417 00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:42,516 But, I... 418 00:24:42,516 --> 00:24:44,852 I can't get any work, you know? 419 00:24:44,852 --> 00:24:46,895 I mean, this is‐‐ it's been years now. 420 00:24:46,895 --> 00:24:48,355 And so, I just‐‐ 421 00:24:48,355 --> 00:24:50,315 I need a little help from someone‐‐ 422 00:24:50,315 --> 00:24:51,608 ‐ You have to sell the apartment. 423 00:24:51,608 --> 00:24:53,360 ‐ I can't do that. ‐ Dad, 424 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:54,945 you cannot keep living like this. 425 00:24:54,945 --> 00:24:57,447 ‐ It's all I have. It's who I am. 426 00:25:00,325 --> 00:25:03,745 ‐ Yeah, well, obviously, it makes me very sad to hear that. 427 00:25:06,623 --> 00:25:07,875 ‐ I'm sorry. 428 00:25:08,667 --> 00:25:12,087 Really, I'm so sorry. 429 00:25:12,754 --> 00:25:14,756 For so many things. 430 00:25:15,883 --> 00:25:18,469 But, it is just a rough patch, honey, and I just‐‐ 431 00:25:18,469 --> 00:25:20,262 Stop, stop, stop, stop. 432 00:25:23,182 --> 00:25:25,392 I can't. Not again. 433 00:25:32,316 --> 00:25:33,775 ‐ Well, I... 434 00:25:34,735 --> 00:25:37,446 I‐I certainly appreciate, um... 435 00:25:38,572 --> 00:25:40,407 you know, everything that you have done, 436 00:25:40,407 --> 00:25:43,327 and‐and‐and don't worry. This is just a... 437 00:25:45,204 --> 00:25:46,497 it's a rocky moment, 438 00:25:46,497 --> 00:25:48,665 that's all. I'll be fine. ‐ Dad. Stay for Sunday dinner. 439 00:25:48,665 --> 00:25:51,960 ‐ No, no, no. I re‐‐ I do actually have to get back. 440 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,296 I do. So, you know... 441 00:25:54,296 --> 00:25:56,256 gotta dig in. Nose to the grindstone, right? 442 00:25:59,927 --> 00:26:01,929 Can I have my coat? Please? 443 00:26:03,639 --> 00:26:05,474 ‐ It's my aunt's apartment. 444 00:26:05,891 --> 00:26:07,434 She asked me to redo it for her. 445 00:26:07,434 --> 00:26:09,269 You can see how well that's going. 446 00:26:10,187 --> 00:26:12,564 It's the first time I've been alone in, like... 447 00:26:13,273 --> 00:26:15,067 ever. 448 00:26:15,067 --> 00:26:17,986 I tend to make packs wherever I go. 449 00:26:17,986 --> 00:26:20,197 When I was a kid, I had my Hardy Boys pack. 450 00:26:20,823 --> 00:26:22,574 ‐ That's too old a reference for you. 451 00:26:22,991 --> 00:26:26,078 ‐ We were being old school calling ourselves that. 452 00:26:26,495 --> 00:26:29,373 Anyway, me and my Hardy Boys... 453 00:26:29,373 --> 00:26:33,168 Well, there were four of us, and two were actual boys, by the way. 454 00:26:33,877 --> 00:26:37,089 We would get into solving mysteries around 455 00:26:37,089 --> 00:26:39,133 the complex that we all lived in. 456 00:26:39,758 --> 00:26:41,802 ‐ So, this stuff is not new to you. 457 00:26:42,678 --> 00:26:45,097 ‐ I mean, those were made‐up mysteries. 458 00:26:46,014 --> 00:26:47,141 At least, most were. 459 00:26:48,225 --> 00:26:50,936 ‐ And your Hardy Boys, where are they now? 460 00:26:52,396 --> 00:26:53,939 ‐ Maybe you're right. 461 00:26:53,939 --> 00:26:56,400 Maybe going at it alone is better. 462 00:26:59,069 --> 00:27:00,404 Any luck with that? 463 00:27:01,155 --> 00:27:03,031 ‐ Oh, I've been in for a while. 464 00:27:03,031 --> 00:27:05,284 ‐ Yes! Good job, Brazzos. 465 00:27:11,415 --> 00:27:14,126 ‐ Alright. This is an A‐line three bedroom. 466 00:27:14,126 --> 00:27:16,503 You take the living, dining, spare. 467 00:27:16,503 --> 00:27:18,589 I'll take the kitchen and the bedrooms on the side. 468 00:27:18,589 --> 00:27:21,467 Now, Bunny probably keeps her packages in a hutch 469 00:27:21,467 --> 00:27:24,178 or a sideboard. ‐ Brazzos, look at your hand. 470 00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:30,392 We have our first clue. 471 00:27:30,392 --> 00:27:32,686 And we stole it from a neighbor to get it! 472 00:27:32,686 --> 00:27:34,813 Yeah. I know. I was there. 473 00:27:34,813 --> 00:27:36,523 You should open it. 474 00:27:36,857 --> 00:27:39,276 I can't tell if I want it to be nothing or... 475 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:41,778 for it to be something. 476 00:27:54,792 --> 00:27:56,293 What is it? 477 00:27:59,213 --> 00:28:01,715 ‐ What kinda guy kills himself 478 00:28:01,715 --> 00:28:04,718 an hour after being desperate to get his hands... 479 00:28:06,094 --> 00:28:07,679 on this? 480 00:29:42,232 --> 00:29:44,109 ‐ Here's a thing I don't get. 481 00:29:44,109 --> 00:29:46,278 People who worry about living in the big city 482 00:29:46,278 --> 00:29:47,821 because of all the crime. 483 00:29:47,821 --> 00:29:50,991 As any true crime aficionado will tell you, 484 00:29:50,991 --> 00:29:53,994 it's the boondocks you need to worry about. 485 00:29:54,995 --> 00:29:56,038 Nailed it. 486 00:29:56,038 --> 00:29:59,500 ‐ I don't know. It‐it‐it's so PBSy. 487 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:02,211 Like a Ken Burns documentary in the history of boredom. 488 00:30:02,211 --> 00:30:04,963 Maybe Mabel should give it a try. ‐ I'd rather die. 489 00:30:04,963 --> 00:30:06,924 ‐ And now, he's giving away my part. 490 00:30:06,924 --> 00:30:09,301 ‐ So tomorrow, we lay out a timeline. 491 00:30:09,301 --> 00:30:11,470 ‐ I have maps and I have full blueprints 492 00:30:11,470 --> 00:30:13,472 of each floor of the Arconia. 493 00:30:13,472 --> 00:30:15,516 ‐ Oh. You fancy. 494 00:30:15,516 --> 00:30:18,519 ‐ Hey, did you guys hear about that mysterious death in the park last night? 495 00:30:19,102 --> 00:30:21,814 We could multitask a little bit. 496 00:30:21,814 --> 00:30:23,816 Silo out a second investigation, 497 00:30:23,816 --> 00:30:25,359 - do a second podcast. - No. 498 00:30:25,776 --> 00:30:28,821 We need to focus. Only murders in the building. 499 00:30:29,238 --> 00:30:31,990 ‐ "Only murders in the building." 500 00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:33,283 Welcome to... 501 00:30:33,283 --> 00:30:36,203 Only Murders In The Building. 502 00:30:36,203 --> 00:30:38,872 A true crime podcast. 503 00:30:38,872 --> 00:30:40,582 I'm your host, 504 00:30:40,582 --> 00:30:43,752 Charles‐Haden Savage. 505 00:30:45,337 --> 00:30:47,131 ‐ For right now. 506 00:30:51,301 --> 00:30:53,011 ‐ Hey. How's it going? 507 00:30:53,011 --> 00:30:54,596 ‐ Oh, good. All good. You? 508 00:30:54,596 --> 00:30:56,014 ‐ Good. 509 00:30:56,723 --> 00:30:59,893 You know, sometimes I can smell that omelet you make. 510 00:30:59,893 --> 00:31:02,729 ‐ Oh! Sorry. Next time, I'll turn the fan on. 511 00:31:02,729 --> 00:31:04,481 ‐ No. I like it. 512 00:31:04,481 --> 00:31:05,524 Reminds me of Lucy. 513 00:31:07,151 --> 00:31:09,611 It was her favorite, right? 514 00:31:09,611 --> 00:31:11,113 Have you heard from her? 515 00:31:11,655 --> 00:31:13,657 ‐ Here‐‐ Uh, here and there. 516 00:31:14,408 --> 00:31:16,410 ‐ Well, tell her hi for me next time. 517 00:31:18,162 --> 00:31:21,665 A great true crime mystery unpeels itself 518 00:31:21,665 --> 00:31:23,459 like an onion. 519 00:31:24,376 --> 00:31:27,504 First the crime, then the characters, 520 00:31:27,504 --> 00:31:30,507 and then their secrets. 521 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,635 The secrets are the fun part. 522 00:31:34,094 --> 00:31:36,638 Who is telling the truth? 523 00:31:36,638 --> 00:31:38,682 Who is lying? 524 00:31:38,682 --> 00:31:40,642 What are they hiding? 525 00:31:40,642 --> 00:31:42,895 Because, let's be honest. 526 00:31:42,895 --> 00:31:46,565 Sometimes it's easier to figure out someone else's secret 527 00:31:47,149 --> 00:31:49,943 than it is to deal with your own.