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We are in San Diego. we are in
A little rental we have down here,

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which was really nice, like a port
in a storm

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Yeah, so we started recording Liz's
Life right now.

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You know, we have...

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People are around us all the time
Starting to catch those moments

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Because what we are going through is true
Now well I mean at its simplest level I am

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Feels like the reason why Liz was
became this monster because

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No one knows who she is just and loving
In the absence of anyone's sale it is

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It's really easy to make them feel different and
It's scary as if it's easy to build

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A myth surrounding who the person is when you are
Don't know who they are so we kind of

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made the decision that the best way for
People who will understand by who she is

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Just giving, like, radical transparency
And, you know, some attitude

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possible into our daily lives.

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You know, sleep, to, you know, what
we are building

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and everything in between.

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I just want to show that it works.

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This is what...

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of accounts related to debits
About patients and patient tests.

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And I have no money. I'm deep
In debt for the legal

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Fees related to my criminal case.

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But I do want the ability to defend
myself and I will ask

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Your consideration in this.

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Our work is in the ability to do

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The test works.

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Elizabeth Holmes built her company
Theranos for this invention she called

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The health services iPod, miniaturized
A blood analyzer that will disrupt the

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A $60 billion laboratory testing industry. this
There was, according to her, a quote, the most

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most important thing mankind has ever built.
And Elizabeth Holmes became the youngest

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self made billionaire in
world She also stood in the center of a

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Massive fraud for many years. Every day I
bless the sun

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I think she's really good at telling you
What

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You have to hear to continue. she
pathological.

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She told everyone it worked and that
Didn't work at all. they are

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really

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run this company as a couple and they

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to commit this fraud as a couple.
Prosecutors say he and Elizabeth Holmes

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Partners in almost everything.

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She claimed they could use one drop
of blood to check a bunch of misc

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stuff, but it turned out to be...

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The technology didn't work. she was
Convicted on four counts of fraud

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defrauding investors.

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She was found not guilty of fraud.

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Miss Holmes was

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He did not speak to the media in 2016.

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her runway launched cottage
The podcast industry, the TV shows,

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Halloween costumes, and the actress
Award winner Amanda Seyfried's turn

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as Miss Holmes.

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In Hulu, the dropout.

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The black golf collars, the red kabuki
The lipstick, the green juices, the dancing

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to Lil Wayne

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Somewhere along the way, Miss Holmes
Says the person, whoever it is, got it

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lost At some point, I tell her that I am
Heard Jennifer Lawrence retired

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of portraying her in the film. she
answered almost reflectively, not playing

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me

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90% of the things quoted here
We recorded.

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are you doing it with me

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not.

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not yet

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That's probably a good idea.

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The way they use words.

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that is,

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We need to repeat some of these
Things because it's just like factual

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Not accurate.

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The world believes in the reality of me
that

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is not true Then what is reality?

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And how did we get here and where are all these
People believe these things that it was unbelievable

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It will happen how it happened but you
Committed no crime you think

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I know I have committed no crime

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I can tell you a little

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my insecurities ok i read it

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You asked General Mattis to be in
Your company's board of directors

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And you know he's a military guy though
He is not a scientist

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So part of me might be a little insecure
that you look at me as someone

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Who is uneducated about science and
scientifically

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Things so I can't ask you in a certain way
that another person who is ah will do so

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So, why, uh, why me?

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I think we thought about it
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because you could go, like,
Science writers and researchers, but

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you didn't Because, what, they suck
Or do you think they suck or something?

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I'm actually not at all. OK, I don't
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I mean, the goal, at least for me, is
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debate the science.

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Although I really hope people will look
The evidence and the case and all

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documents that support this.

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It starts with who I am and what is mine
intention

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was and still is.

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I do want to tell you just full
Transparency, I read a lot about

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Um theranos and you and you know I am
I believe there is a lot of evidence

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It points to the fact that you
Investor fraud and

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also misled um you know regulators and
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and patients and mothers were involved
conspiracy

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too much

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I look, I mean, I understand what people
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Understand that people believe it
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All I know is my truth and

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mine

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love to my family

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Take it from them.

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Do you want to get a tissue or
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I think we'll have to put a pin
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okay. Because it's 1220 now.

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You have a lot of conversations you need
to do

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I don't want to speak for you.

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What

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Do you think you want to shoot the next film?

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Well, I was planning on going to work out.

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If you want to get into it um
Choose your segment wisely what it is

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It's that pink pineapple inside again
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The vision she had with Theranus did not die
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Thought or are there other plans for
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Only plans but there are plans in
Works you know like we did

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Take many of the first steps to do
It happens um and as it relates to her

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Her intention with this is not
Stop talking about it

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Since I met her wow the idea is
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Getting back together and doing it all again is not
We owe a break

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There is not one that we know of that was the
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And here is the second iteration of the
same idea.

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Theranos 2.0. yes.

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What's happening in front of you tomorrow?

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We have an appointment at 9.20 for Ivy.

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And we usually don't like to go on
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Like a million people until like Friday
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What day did you think about the bonfire?

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I haven't thought about it yet. I am
I was going to call my brother and see

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what is his availability

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okay. One conversation we had
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In the studio yesterday he said
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Very willing to talk to you
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Did you take the eggs? what was she
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wanted to help her.

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so she can focus on talking to you
OK, what I did wrong is this

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She doesn't think I mix them up
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Very lightly eggs have no taste like
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Make sure they mix well
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how did you two meet we met in a
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Sorry for distracting umm from what just a

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I thought what thought I tried
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I just don't know. There are so many
Things that went through my mind in this

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wait Like when you met her? yes.
like what?

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Well, first of all I didn't know who she was.

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But you, did you know who she was with
General? Like, did you know who

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Elizabeth Holmes was around that time?

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I did it. yes. I mean, I worked at
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Build a week before.

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Ah-ha because we looked at
Renting her building as much as I knew

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Exactly who she was I read a lot
The same media that everyone else had

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So how did you not recognize her as she is
Like wearing a big hat and sunglasses

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And she had like a plaster on her face
So I didn't know who she was and why the band

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-Help I just got a husky and he
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I had this cut on my face so maybe
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Was it love at first sight, I think for her
I it was really I don't know yes I was

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Like very flirtatious I tried to be
Flirting you were yes definitely what

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do you like it when you flirt i'm just me
I didn't know what to say to him so I was

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Just kind of stare at it then it is
Your technique is that you like to hold eye contact

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Yes, yes, and I started talking a lot
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Like everything else stopped
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Like it was just the two of us, you
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Someone and there are other people
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two of you That is, at the time in 2017,
There was a lot of bad news about

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Theranos. It was just bad news.

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And you just didn't know who she was?

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No idea, yes.

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when did you understand

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Maybe an hour of talking.

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And what did she say caused you?
understand?

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Something about giving people access
Health care, which made me kind of

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Understand, oh, testing and diagnosis.
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That's who it is.

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It was super fast.

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It went from zero to 100 really fast.

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I mean, the first time he started
Talk about wasting our lives

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Together, I thought he was joking. and
I asked him about 30 times if he did

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Serious because I was like, you, yeah
do you mean that Do you feel it will be so?

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They went in the same direction with you
Guys if he knew from the beginning

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would you object

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I don't know, maybe not.

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Maybe not I mean the bias is that strong
Fell in love with that first conversation

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Before or after what she revealed she was
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ok um you fell in love like how many
Minutes then yes and maybe more

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An hour you know it was just there
Like obviously you couldn't even see her

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Face though, I guess it wasn't
Which was as important to me as you are

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A very handsome man and you
Attractive guy I'm sure you're popular

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With women I guess yes I like
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know you love them but like i'm sure
yes i dated other people in

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At the same time I met Liz you were yes how
Many none too seriously maybe three

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people

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Then you meet Liz, and she accepts
A felony charge has been filed. And you do

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choosing at this point to be like, okay,
This is what I want for my life.

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why?

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I think that speaks volumes for how much I love
her.

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yes.

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That's cool.

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Yes, it's amazing.

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I mean, you didn't make sure she was tidy
Of, like, scammed you?

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100% 100% But what did she need?
profit from me?

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Well, isn't your family rich?

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Yeah, I think there's, like, a lot
At different levels of wealth, right?

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okay. And I think I'm definitely coming
A family that did well, but...

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wealth level you need you need not
I'm not going to answer that question

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More your parents is where
Money is or I mean they built a business

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you have to go ok it's 5 30

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My cousin's thing started at 5 15. Okay
sorry i didn't know um

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How do you decide what to put in and
What to leave out

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Right now I'm putting everything in and
Then I'll cut once

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A bit to see everything together and how it is
fits together.

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Did you even write about a signature?

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I did it.

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It's a big part of my life.

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guys together?

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Almost 12 years.

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wow

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What was Sonny's role in Theranos?

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He was the president and CEO
Company Officer and Lieut

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Chairman of the Board of Directors.

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And what was your role?

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I was the CEO and chairman of the company
board

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I believed him because I thought he was
He was the best in the world at what he was

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doing

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But I know I didn't ask

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The same way I would otherwise do
There was no such connection

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was in place.

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An overconfident person.

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for sure

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But I think this is the best way to build
The successful relationships

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Because I think if you start from
A place of complete trust, then

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There will be a good relationship, it will be
Be much stronger because of it.

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It's a really nice philosophy.

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That's how Billy and I met and built you
The relationship we have.

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Two, three of them. One, come on.

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Come on, man. one,

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Two, three.

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Do things get lost like how are you?
where are you now i am not

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I don't know what your best guess is
That is, if you feel

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Like everything you did was above
The board and you acted in good faith and

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Do you feel like your legal team is you
Know their advice led you to this

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point

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No, I think they put their hearts and
souls to fight him.

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And they are still fighting.

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So who then messed up this process?

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I wish I knew.

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i don't know I don't feel like myself
figure it out

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You think that's part of the reason
Why can't people come to you?

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Because they feel you are not
Admit the things you do?

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probably. yes.

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yes.

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how does it make you feel

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makes it hard to stand the truth,
But I can never live with her

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myself if I didn't.

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What you feel is the hardest
What do you need to do emotionally?

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what do you mean

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Like, when it comes to feelings.

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What is the most difficult thing for you?

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It took me a long time to get everything right
with

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let someone see me cry

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At a high level, the New York Times is
Not willing to change the, I created a

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character Even though we told them,
Like, look, we have all these tapes.

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It is not stated anywhere.

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And they feel strongly that she took
Enough comments to cover it. But they are

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They don't have, like, they didn't come back
saying, well, this is where you are

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said that Or that, like, we have those
A recording of it.

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They just say they stand by them
report.

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Let Liz describe it to you.

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Do they have proof you said that?

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i don't know I know we are, like her
He would talk to us, we would record him

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Also conversations, because that's what
Our media guy said to do it. Yes, yes.

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But we don't have any recording of me
Says, I created a character.

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You should find out if there is a
recording.

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we don't

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forward. okay.

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sorry. continue. OK, be
continued Because I do, okay. i want

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Ask, just because this thing, I know
It's such a small thing, the New York

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A matter of time, but the reason I am so
Interested is because if you...

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Didn't say that it really shows you
A narrative of people trying to make me

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into it make you it but if you
He said it, it talks about it

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Maybe you don't remember some things that
You said or did yes then the answer

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This question feels very relevant for
Sure as my process was my memory and

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Then review all our recordings and
Confirm yes and then follow

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on this basis

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OK, yes. I know you have to go, then
in any case. can we continue OK, great.

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thanks.

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Yes, I just started taking the screenshot
As it was written, so I was, like,

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Trying to hide the parts I'm not
Not sure if I want to include or not. Just for fun

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Do not capture the screen.

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not.

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Listen, you damn well have to stand up
to yourself, okay?

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This whole thing was about, like,
If I am honest and transparent

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Adam It's so late.

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There is a difference between being
Transparent and not uncomfortable

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Share something you don't know.

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I mean, just to be clear, this person
He has no in-depth experience. This is a

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A student with a passion to try
highlight problems that exist within

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A legal system that is interested
Dedicates herself and her life.

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To this continued pursuit I say
You guys are just killing the Wi-Fi everyone

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The time I mean when I was behind the wheel
It was like dropping it makes us our own

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Ability to do business as untenable i
I don't think it has anything to do with it

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Our equipment is 100 makes because love
At night I have zero problems

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Only something is disturbing
Because like even when I tried to do

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This discussion yesterday it went down
Like 10 times really yes I feel like

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We are on different frequencies
true

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I think it's the monitors.

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I can't connect to this Wi-Fi. I am
Can't connect to our Wi-Fi. was

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Is it the monitors? I think this is it.
here we go

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hi hi

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can you hear me

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yes, sorry We had to do Wi-Fi
Subjects

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so nice to meet you

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so nice to meet you

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Would you know, with the fact that
You were involved in similar cases, was

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Revealed at trial?

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They managed to get into it roughly
The highest level but not really not you

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The government's entire case was well founded
on this idea that technology does not

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to work correctly but they had no proof of it
So they had three patients in all

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Which Liz deserves as much as anyone
Those counts and then they had nothing

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Otherwise then they brought in this expert
Witness and he had to say whatever

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Hell they wanted him to say like me
I mean, it's just completely procedural

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Not true I mean you know some of them
Of the questions I would like

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there is

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whenever you are
Here, the Wi-Fi doesn't work.

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And so you think to work with
Her on your case?

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You know, the truth is, like, I don't
Have the money to pay her to do it. So

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The question will be, like, will you be there
To have a role for her, for example, to tell

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From our story? i don't know

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But she can help give context about
Where there are strings to be pulled.

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You know, it's this weird thing because
I've seen a lot of places where I think

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There's just, like,

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Basic injustices.

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And you know, I hope you can
Check it out because I think so

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will yield results that will really surprise
everyone

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But it takes time and energy and effort
And loves passion and someone who will care

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About that then maybe you have it Nathan

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Ability to think independently and
Really like looking into facts that

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The rest of the world is completely visible
not capable of it

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any thoughts

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any thoughts

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I still have this weird feeling
There are things I don't see

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Totally up to you.

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I know you invited me to stay here
with you and I refused the offer.

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But I thought maybe if I did
To accept you on your offer and realize

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to be here

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You are welcome to be here.

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Does a part of you care for me?
be here 24-7?

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I don't think so.

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This is what you asked for, is to see
everything

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So that's all.

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00:32:38,650 --> 00:32:42,090
But what if I see something that does
You look bad, it makes you look

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Guilty, really guilty?

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I'm not guilty.

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But what if I see something that does
do you look like this

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Then ask questions about it.

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00:32:51,070 --> 00:32:52,650
Do you really feel like you did nothing wrong?

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00:32:53,310 --> 00:32:54,310
I didn't do it.

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00:32:59,150 --> 00:33:00,990
You never tried to cheat anyone.

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I never tried to cheat anyone.

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ever in your life

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not.

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tell me that

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Have you ever lied in your life?

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00:33:17,530 --> 00:33:19,170
I don't think so.

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00:33:19,450 --> 00:33:20,450
I don't... what?

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00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:27,030
Have you never lied in your life? you have
Have you never said anything wrong?

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Not on purpose.

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A white lie?

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00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,520
I mean, I don't know. when i was a kid
do you know But I always tried to say

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what i believe

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This is how I built my life.

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That's why it's so important to me.

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00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:48,000
What is your definition of a lie?

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Deliberately saying something that you are
believe that it is not true.

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Like, say, you know, no
Want to go to a party, like a friend's

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Or like an acquaintance's party.

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And you're just like, oh, I'm like no
feels great I don't want you have

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00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:11,210
Have you never done anything like this? or if
you don't like someone

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00:34:11,449 --> 00:34:16,010
i'm sure I mean, I thought about
lies like the kind of things that

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00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:17,010
I was accused.

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00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:21,630
but. Well, you made such lies.

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00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:24,469
Tell a friend that I feel sick when I
no? yes.

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i.e.

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yes.

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00:34:27,820 --> 00:34:29,800
This is mom's jacket. thank you

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00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,239
It's mom's or dad's jacket
a jacket?

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00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,440
Mom's jacket?

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00:34:34,540 --> 00:34:35,540
okay.

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This adhesion is essential to the cell
survival.

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00:35:45,260 --> 00:35:48,600
If cells detach from them
microenvironment, they will die through

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A process known as apoptosis.

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00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,740
This phenomenon, which is called
Dependence survival survival.

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00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,940
OK, is that thing on the bed over there?
Is there, or is there also a mattress?

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,320
Is that what we are there for? for the gas
A bathtub, yes.

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00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,920
Yes, we have everything in
storage container. oh,

393
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,300
ok, ok Yes, we have...

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00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,000
It wasn't sure if it was just the...
Yes, we like to sleep only in bed

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00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,000
frames here.

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00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:41,310
It doesn't mess with your head.
Although, when it comes to money, like

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00:36:41,310 --> 00:36:42,310
That much money?

398
00:36:43,170 --> 00:36:45,870
No, that's not what drives me.

399
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:52,090
But what about when the company started
be worth so much money?

400
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:56,530
I have never sold a stock.

401
00:36:57,210 --> 00:36:59,970
That was never what it was about.

402
00:37:11,180 --> 00:37:17,380
I can play this audio for you
You said oh this is a clip from this oh

403
00:37:17,380 --> 00:37:23,940
An interview you did with that eh
Journalist for Hon Om Parla

404
00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:25,700
I think that was his name

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00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,380
So you say there, the fact that we have
A single device that can do everything

406
00:37:55,380 --> 00:37:56,640
A test is a big deal.

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00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:02,840
But as far as I know, you couldn't
Each test on a single device. That's it

408
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,620
the whole problem. That's why you are
go to jail, right?

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00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,180
No, it was our invention. and in
By the way, I was talking about the fact that we

410
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invented a device that could do anything
a test.

411
00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:22,920
But if you had this single device
Can run any tests, so it wasn't

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the whole thing?

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00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,900
I don't know what you mean at all
talk, but what you said is not

414
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,260
By chance, and I hope I can explain it.

415
00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:36,200
What did I say wrong?

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00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:37,420
what do you mean

417
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,560
that these statements are not true.

418
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:42,840
This is a true statement.

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00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,930
yes. that you have a single device that
Can perform any test we did that's what

420
00:38:48,930 --> 00:38:49,930
we invented

421
00:39:25,770 --> 00:39:28,790
So this is the famous fraud device.

422
00:39:29,830 --> 00:39:31,390
That is, it is not a fraudulent device.

423
00:39:32,410 --> 00:39:37,310
But that's what people think, right?

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00:39:38,570 --> 00:39:42,630
I don't know what people think. what am i
Know this is what we invented.

425
00:39:43,530 --> 00:39:49,330
And to me, the technology is amazing.

426
00:39:50,190 --> 00:39:52,090
So it works, you say?

427
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:57,070
it happened Right now, these are just
system components.

428
00:39:57,450 --> 00:39:58,510
It opens itself.

429
00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:00,630
did you make it up

430
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:05,390
How did it open like this?

431
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:10,490
Our team did. I don't remember who
The inventor was on it. It wasn't yours

432
00:40:10,490 --> 00:40:11,490
an idea

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00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:12,970
i don't remember

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00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:20,950
Our technologies worked by enabling the
cartridge.

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00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:28,740
When it was inserted into the device to
Call the cloud and send

436
00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:35,200
Protocols from the cloud to
A device, tells you what to do with

437
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,540
A newly inserted cartridge.

438
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:45,000
And we developed it for all these
different methods of chemistry that we

439
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Run tests.

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00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:53,570
So this way, you can run any test
Because it is based on sending the cloud

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00:40:53,570 --> 00:40:59,670
Device information and you can
Preload any other type of chemistry

442
00:40:59,670 --> 00:41:06,630
into the cartridge that makes so much sense
The device is different from

443
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:13,390
Chemistry is exactly the device
Able to run any test yes

444
00:41:13,390 --> 00:41:20,180
But because right now the device can't
run all

445
00:41:20,180 --> 00:41:26,400
Test you need you need to develop the
Small chemical samples for each test

446
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,900
yes validate them for certain tests i
Guess you didn't successfully

447
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:39,100
On this it is theoretical yes because it is
is a platform that can

448
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:45,760
Running these things is who you are
The intention is an established future

449
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:51,630
The device can is able to run any
That's the word I guess I can speak

450
00:41:51,630 --> 00:41:57,550
That's what we invented what you are
invented yes then when you said you

451
00:41:57,550 --> 00:42:04,010
The device can run any test for what you meant
was the device

452
00:42:04,010 --> 00:42:10,990
Able to run any test well
I'm talking about here

453
00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:15,800
that the device is able to operate
Every test is at an additional discount

454
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,820
Chemistry developed.

455
00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:21,820
Assuming you have the chemistry to do it
these things.

456
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:29,200
But you understand that if someone
Heard that the device can work

457
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:35,780
Every test, how could they interpret it
Like right now

458
00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:39,120
Is the device running any test?

459
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,440
I think...

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00:42:42,190 --> 00:42:48,570
provided information about the tests
Because oh we developed and we were

461
00:42:48,570 --> 00:42:53,510
evolving and because people were
Oh says he can only run 12 tests

462
00:42:53,510 --> 00:43:00,310
On this thing but I think the problem

463
00:43:00,310 --> 00:43:03,150
This is the thing you ask Nathan
He is like what the general public

464
00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:08,530
understood and said this thing
Like what you call it

465
00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:12,710
Talk and everyone has something different
A picture of what you meant.

466
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:21,930
I was, I mean, I was just trying
Call the best I knew, you

467
00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:24,570
to know And you tried to do your best
be clear

468
00:43:24,890 --> 00:43:25,890
of course.

469
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:38,070
Because when you say it and describe
This, I'm like...

470
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:45,380
Well, wait a second. I guess, yes, the
A device can, like, that's right, what

471
00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:46,380
you say

472
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,540
But I'm also like, well, why choose
those words? like,

473
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:59,280
Why not just, like, add one word
Will that clear up?

474
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:07,240
But I'm a bad communicator. i don't know
A lot of words.

475
00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:10,410
are you like that

476
00:44:13,870 --> 00:44:20,790
I feel like I know I was

477
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:27,090
Trying to fully communicate what we have
created and me

478
00:44:27,090 --> 00:44:31,690
Feels like I'm living in parallel now
the universe.

479
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:44,060
Yeah, I don't... I know what you are
feeling

480
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,740
No, you don't.

481
00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:58,180
I need to quickly get this legal call.

482
00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:01,620
Do you mind cutting the mic for a
a second? Sure, yes.

483
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,520
Has she ever lied to you? No, never.

484
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,000
No, never.

485
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:38,740
I know it seems weird, but... and he,
Like, you can shower whenever you want,

486
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,140
Or at certain times?

487
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:44,180
If I tell someone, I'm busy, is it a
lie?

488
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:46,260
if you don't yes.

489
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,020
yes. Okay, so I'll say it. yes. and
Liz will be like, yeah, Billy's

490
00:45:50,020 --> 00:45:51,020
Available, it's right here.

491
00:45:51,140 --> 00:45:52,140
right.

492
00:45:52,620 --> 00:45:54,100
So you lied.

493
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,700
Yes, yes, absolutely.

494
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Not that I knew her. you have to
wake up at 3.30? And I know it seems

495
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,960
Totally implausible. I understand that.
It's weird.

496
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,740
But she's really weird.

497
00:46:05,980 --> 00:46:07,160
She's just not normal.

498
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:15,020
But the fact that she is most famous for it
lying For this thing, yes. the thing

499
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:16,020
She never finished.

500
00:46:17,140 --> 00:46:18,340
you believe it

501
00:46:18,940 --> 00:46:22,640
Who really believes that? It's high
school. She never told a single lie.

502
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,580
What is an invasive script search?

503
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:51,940
Can you see visitors that first weekend?

504
00:46:55,530 --> 00:47:01,930
I think there is um why you
Being so weird and casual with yours

505
00:47:01,930 --> 00:47:07,390
Words say say what you are what is
ok ok thanks

506
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,140
Do you know who Abbott and Costello are?

507
00:47:58,380 --> 00:47:59,600
not. Absolutely not.

508
00:47:59,820 --> 00:48:00,820
not.

509
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:05,600
You've heard of the comedy routine
who is first

510
00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:07,420
Mm-hmm. you don't

511
00:48:07,820 --> 00:48:10,060
ok can i play it for you

512
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:10,819
Mm-hmm.

513
00:48:10,820 --> 00:48:11,820
okay.

514
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,980
Something we talked about
The other day got me thinking about this.

515
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,880
Oh, sure.

516
00:48:23,260 --> 00:48:26,260
A lot of funny names, you know, like
Stinky fields. Stinky fields.

517
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,560
Dan is stupid.

518
00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:29,140
Buffy Barber. Buffy Barber.

519
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:32,900
well,

520
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:37,000
Let's see now. We have in our team, we
Who is first, what is second, me

521
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,000
I don't know who is in third place.

522
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:39,220
That's what I want to find out
the guy's name

523
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,980
That's what I want to find out
the guy's name Now tell me, who's first,

524
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,720
What about the second, I don't know who's on
Third. You know the names of

525
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,020
Baseball teams? yes. You know the guys
Names? Well, I should. Well, you tell me

526
00:48:47,020 --> 00:48:49,420
The names of the guys on the baseball teams. I am
Say, who's in first place, what's in second place, me

527
00:48:49,420 --> 00:48:51,460
I don't know who is in third place. you don't
I haven't seen anything yet. Go ahead and

528
00:48:51,460 --> 00:48:52,460
tell me

529
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,900
I tell him. You haven't said yet. go
Go ahead and tell me. Who's on first?

530
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,000
What about the second? i don't know Who is on?
Third?

531
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,460
You know the guy's name is on
baseball team. Well, come on. Who is on?

532
00:49:00,460 --> 00:49:03,300
first? yes. I mean the guy's name. WHO?
The guy plays first. WHO? the guy

533
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:04,299
Playing first base. WHO?

534
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:05,300
The guy at first base.

535
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:06,820
who is first

536
00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:08,440
what do you want from me i don't
know

537
00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:11,360
Now, wait a minute. i don't I ask
You came up first. That's his name.

538
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:13,260
Well, go ahead and tell me. WHO? the guy
on the first this is.

539
00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:16,158
That's his name.

540
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,500
I don't ask anything. you did it you
Know the name of the guy at first base? insurance.

541
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:20,820
Tell me the name of the guy at first base.
WHO?

542
00:49:34,460 --> 00:49:41,300
So this is perhaps the most famous comedy
All time routine.

543
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,600
Do you see why this is funny?

544
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,480
We couldn't understand each other.

545
00:50:00,340 --> 00:50:02,000
Did you find it funny?

546
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:03,098
I did it.

547
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,100
What did you find funny about it?

548
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,500
that they were just talking and
passed each other in the way I thought

549
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:14,500
was funny

550
00:50:15,540 --> 00:50:20,440
And what was funny about that? what did
don't they understand

551
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:27,200
Who was the player on first?

552
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,660
And what was his name?

553
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:30,860
i don't know

554
00:50:32,260 --> 00:50:35,100
The guy who came up first, what was his
there?

555
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,980
I didn't pick it up. The guy's name is
who?

556
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:44,300
You didn't understand.

557
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,220
Didn't you get it?

558
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,640
not. And so they didn't understand each other
Other than who...

559
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,120
Sounds like someone is saying who is on
first.

560
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,520
It's like a question.

561
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,480
But what is the guy's name?

562
00:50:59,420 --> 00:51:00,520
do you understand now

563
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,800
when you told me yours
Explain what you meant b

564
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:14,260
Statement, the fact that we have a
A single device that can run any test is a

565
00:51:14,260 --> 00:51:15,058
big deal

566
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:20,620
It felt to me, well, that statement
so obvious

567
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:27,060
Confusing almost to a comical level
But you didn't see it that way when we

568
00:51:27,060 --> 00:51:33,940
I spoke, I still don't speak and so I was
I thought about it and I was like this

569
00:51:33,940 --> 00:51:40,860
Feels like my first name

570
00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:47,080
How it feels to you is what you are
mean

571
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,210
Billy do you understand what I'm saying?
I know exactly what you're saying and

572
00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:55,610
It's like one of them, I'm really happy
You showed us that because it's like b

573
00:51:55,610 --> 00:52:00,570
Some ways illustrate perfectly
Something I was trying to communicate

574
00:52:00,570 --> 00:52:04,130
And probably not done well enough, which
Does she just think differently?

575
00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:10,470
And that's what allows her to see you
The world is different and do things

576
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:15,490
otherwise But yeah, I think it's one
One of the most beautiful things about who

577
00:52:15,490 --> 00:52:16,109
you.

578
00:52:16,110 --> 00:52:19,750
Yes, maybe not something like that
resonate with her and understand.

579
00:52:26,890 --> 00:52:32,290
I don't know I mean I felt then and I
I still felt like I was

580
00:52:32,290 --> 00:52:37,770
describes i

581
00:52:37,770 --> 00:52:44,750
I thought I was calling
effectively

582
00:52:44,750 --> 00:52:46,830
you know and um

583
00:52:54,090 --> 00:52:59,970
is it mine am i not working on it or is it
like i don't know i

584
00:52:59,970 --> 00:53:06,950
I don't know, I think he's right, I think
What

585
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:10,750
He says you see the world
otherwise and that you

586
00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:15,310
Communicates very clearly in your mind
that your brain works differently than

587
00:53:15,310 --> 00:53:20,770
others and when other people heard the
thing you said they are

588
00:53:20,770 --> 00:53:21,770
Heard it in a certain way

589
00:53:29,049 --> 00:53:30,470
That's not a bad thing.

590
00:53:30,850 --> 00:53:33,050
You didn't think I was calling
clear?

591
00:53:35,550 --> 00:53:41,990
Most people see it and they
figure out who's kind of a joke

592
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:45,970
It's a confusing name for baseball
an actor

593
00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:53,530
But you watch it and you didn't see it
Where was the confusion?

594
00:53:53,530 --> 00:53:54,530
is happening

595
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:06,180
Know if it gives you more clarity or
Nathan confused but well I don't know

596
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:10,340
I'm not surprised that it is
It makes sense like I'm not surprised

597
00:54:10,340 --> 00:54:16,280
According to this, I'm really simple
Wondering if your mind doesn't get it

598
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,360
How to read a certain statement
confusing

599
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,400
Curious George visits the zoo. where
George?

600
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:15,700
Right here. The monkey is George.

601
00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:17,560
hi hi

602
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:19,660
I gave

603
00:55:20,660 --> 00:55:24,160
Hi, Nathan. Nice to meet you. very nice
to meet you I'm Noel.

604
00:55:24,380 --> 00:55:25,380
foolish.

605
00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:26,840
pleasure to meet you

606
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,560
I thought the Hulu series was
not true I mean, but people believe

607
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,800
Those things, you know. They take these
Good news.

608
00:55:36,460 --> 00:55:38,760
I read that you worked at Enron.

609
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,080
I did it.

610
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,600
how was it

611
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:48,780
You spend your life building yours
There and then suddenly

612
00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:55,760
You are related to something like this
Just kind of goes under and has

613
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,760
Terrible reputation.

614
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,000
I think it hurts everyone.

615
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,540
Sort of happened to Liz too, huh?

616
00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:04,180
yes.

617
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:12,800
But the difference is that Elizabeth
By no means was he to blame

618
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,800
of anything

619
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,640
Where do you think things went wrong?
her?

620
00:56:18,980 --> 00:56:22,820
I can tell you exactly what I think.
This is an easy question to answer.

621
00:56:23,060 --> 00:56:24,580
Okay, answer that then.

622
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,940
So things went wrong for Elizabeth when
She was raped.

623
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:34,140
And I think she was so shocked
After being raped.

624
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,500
This led to the second thing that really
Changed her, then Sunny

625
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:40,760
Belmati entered her life.

626
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:44,620
Elizabeth was 19 and he was close
up to 40.

627
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,440
Did you know he is 40 years old?

628
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,940
No, I knew he was older.

629
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,080
Can you tell by how he looks? yes.

630
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:52,440
Liz said she couldn't tell.

631
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,480
He is 30 years old and going no
A program at the college where he has

632
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,160
sexually to other students. I think it's a
A pretty obvious example of trying to search

633
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,160
Out young children.

634
00:57:05,710 --> 00:57:06,750
So Elizabeth...

635
00:57:06,750 --> 00:57:13,190
are you

636
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:22,870
to find

637
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:28,510
It's, like, the fact that you saw Sonia
And you knew he was really old, right?

638
00:57:28,510 --> 00:57:33,330
Found it... Hi guys, how much I love
You are doing an interview...

639
00:57:34,540 --> 00:57:36,240
really want to spend time together as a
family

640
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,060
I didn't care that you let us walk the path
A few more minutes. Yes, as long as you are

641
00:57:41,060 --> 00:57:44,460
Want to, but I'm just, you know, the target
For you to be here is for us

642
00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:45,760
able to spend time together. yes, i am
know

643
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:47,920
you want us to leave, billy?

644
00:57:48,140 --> 00:57:50,940
No, I don't want you to leave. I'm simple
Want, I think you should document

645
00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:52,060
We spend our time together.

646
00:57:52,980 --> 00:57:55,280
I'm just trying to learn, yeah. i will do
that.

647
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Sometimes I can't tell Billy, like,
Want us here or not.

648
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:11,020
Are you, um, I guess, like, Sunny was
This very important relationship in her

649
00:58:11,020 --> 00:58:13,660
Life, or at least big, yes.

650
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:22,200
how do you feel about it
She goes into business with Billy

651
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,820
After what happened with Sunny? are you
Feels like it's wise to enter

652
00:58:25,820 --> 00:58:28,360
Business with someone you are
Romantically involved with?

653
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:31,520
good question

654
00:58:33,740 --> 00:58:34,740
I trust Billy.

655
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,100
And Elizabeth is much smarter.

656
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,040
Elizabeth is much smarter. she knows

657
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,440
I guess Billy wants me out.

658
00:59:08,010 --> 00:59:10,230
Well, I'll do it with you before I go.

659
00:59:12,330 --> 00:59:13,770
Will you watch the fallout with me?

660
00:59:14,030 --> 00:59:17,150
I mean, I prefer to expect as little as possible
It is as required, just because I think

661
00:59:17,150 --> 00:59:19,550
It would bother me a lot.

662
00:59:19,770 --> 00:59:21,650
But I will watch it.

663
00:59:21,970 --> 00:59:28,750
only if you want Only if you can do
this. But I would love to see it with him

664
00:59:28,750 --> 00:59:31,090
You, because I didn't see it either.

665
00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:34,070
can you say the name of the company

666
00:59:34,590 --> 00:59:36,850
Theranos. I thought it was Theranos.

667
00:59:37,230 --> 00:59:40,730
No, Theranos. It is a combination of treatment
and diagnosis.

668
00:59:41,330 --> 00:59:42,330
Why not?

669
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:43,470
Theranos?

670
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:46,970
Because the name is Theranos.

671
00:59:48,110 --> 00:59:50,330
Actually, can we cut that part? cut the
there

672
00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:55,250
So currently we have 500 employees.

673
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,240
you know what

674
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:40,460
it's mine

675
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,360
ok,

676
01:00:45,660 --> 01:00:46,660
I will check with you.

677
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,640
When are you going to transfer it?

678
01:00:50,540 --> 01:00:51,540
it depends

679
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,120
about what

680
01:00:54,140 --> 01:00:56,140
About how it's going today with my parents.

681
01:00:57,060 --> 01:00:58,740
Yes, every parent's dream.

682
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:01,340
And your new sword?

683
01:01:02,380 --> 01:01:03,380
Katana.

684
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:05,100
look at it

685
01:01:09,070 --> 01:01:11,750
Ask Larry Ellison about retirement. he is
love japan

686
01:01:14,610 --> 01:01:15,830
How are you doing with numbers?

687
01:01:17,210 --> 01:01:22,630
Oh, most blood tests are priced too
tall We offer a low cost alternative

688
01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:25,370
with the possibility of enlargement.

689
01:01:25,590 --> 01:01:27,290
Don't talk about saving the world.

690
01:01:27,690 --> 01:01:29,390
I'm not going to talk about rescue
world

691
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:31,510
Don't use your giddy voice.

692
01:01:32,450 --> 01:01:33,650
Don't say amazing.

693
01:01:42,220 --> 01:01:43,220
I want to be beautiful too.

694
01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:45,400
It won't take you seriously.

695
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,940
Yes, yes. thank you

696
01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:25,280
I know this journey sucks, and
I know it's like immeasurably hard,

697
01:02:25,420 --> 01:02:27,840
But I promise you...

698
01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:53,860
I think she gets upset when I hold her
Because she wants to feed again every time

699
01:02:53,860 --> 01:02:55,240
time She's just picky. i know

700
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,240
ok, ok

701
01:02:59,180 --> 01:03:04,940
It's not strange that I did TV
Show about type of business scams and

702
01:03:04,940 --> 01:03:07,800
you're kind of, like, in trouble for,
Like, business fraud?

703
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,320
I never made that connection.

704
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:18,460
But I think it's quite different
condition

705
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:27,040
If you only said that Theranos was a
A little comedy, maybe you can

706
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,360
out without a ball.

707
01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:32,860
It was real.

708
01:03:34,540 --> 01:03:35,540
yes.

709
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,620
It was just a joke.

710
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,780
okay. As you know, I am verbal.

711
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:46,280
No, no, I know. I was just kind of
make a little joke Maybe it was bad

712
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,280
taste

713
01:03:52,830 --> 01:03:59,550
It always felt free to me to be in
water. It's like so huge and beautiful

714
01:03:59,550 --> 01:04:01,090
and untamed.

715
01:04:01,870 --> 01:04:03,810
close your head It resets you.

716
01:04:08,090 --> 01:04:13,650
are you asking me to go

717
01:04:13,890 --> 01:04:14,890
yes.

718
01:04:23,660 --> 01:04:26,000
Yes, I'm usually afraid of cold water.

719
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:32,540
I can break the rule, but yes.

720
01:04:32,780 --> 01:04:33,780
no pressure

721
01:04:34,620 --> 01:04:37,340
What will you need to work?
about now?

722
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:42,380
Let's start following people and
call people

723
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,320
okay. On start working on, we can
Do some prototyping.

724
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:49,920
I wanted to ask you,

725
01:04:50,860 --> 01:04:55,200
Starting to think of an idea for
A new type of sensor. Thank you very much

726
01:04:55,200 --> 01:05:00,180
for taking the time. There is a real
An opportunity to leverage the next thing

727
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:04,620
A self-driving tech generation and
Aimable lasers and all the rest

728
01:05:04,620 --> 01:05:06,680
Dimensions for the field of medicine.

729
01:05:06,940 --> 01:05:12,080
We have a laser. The idea is to be able
measure directly as analytes in a

730
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,080
sample.

731
01:05:20,330 --> 01:05:23,710
We think there is enough shelf
Components as in existing research

732
01:05:23,710 --> 01:05:29,390
to set up laboratories that we can go there
and run some examples yes definitely and

733
01:05:29,390 --> 01:05:33,150
The idea is as if we put our hands on each other
Determine how good the data is and then

734
01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:37,650
Our process will be how we are
Minimizing and cutting the costs of the lease

735
01:05:37,650 --> 01:05:41,270
Experience building theranos I think
So relevant, whatever the limitations

736
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:46,250
And the optics are going to be I think
This can potentially be compensated for

737
01:05:46,250 --> 01:05:51,170
Part through the dataset and through
The algorithm I think you can

738
01:05:51,170 --> 01:05:56,450
come up with some of the best
Algorithms we can create to do this

739
01:05:56,450 --> 01:05:57,450
right

740
01:05:59,210 --> 01:06:04,310
Yes, just like look at it and see like
How, you know, an expert virologist,

741
01:06:04,310 --> 01:06:09,930
Like what can they tell? if you can hit
dollar for low income test, like low

742
01:06:09,930 --> 01:06:14,450
Resource definitions where there are none
Infrastructure check, you can change

743
01:06:14,450 --> 01:06:18,860
things I think the bigger question is,
You can get the test because

744
01:06:18,860 --> 01:06:21,820
a computer required to run it, you know,
How many cycles will you need?

745
01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:25,600
Totally, totally agree with that. yes,
So I think this is probably the best way.

746
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:28,640
This is going to be a classic moment for
the failure path.

747
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,540
Wherever I am, I go
continue to work on invention, like even

748
01:06:34,540 --> 01:06:38,260
If it is to invent a cage, I must
do it The powers that be may not

749
01:06:38,260 --> 01:06:41,720
Too happy to see it happen. wow,
It's really cool.

750
01:06:42,370 --> 01:06:46,490
Yes, he said he was really inspiring
We are still trying to see it

751
01:06:46,490 --> 01:06:49,110
way. He thinks it's amazing and he is
Want to help raise money.

752
01:06:51,890 --> 01:06:53,610
I feel so energized after this.

753
01:06:54,450 --> 01:06:55,450
yes? yes.

754
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:56,910
why?

755
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:59,770
Because it's like what I feel like I was
born to do

756
01:07:00,550 --> 01:07:05,190
What I think is, is when I'm working on mine
Ideas, I'll just spell them out

757
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:08,590
and write to you with ideas and drawings
And...

758
01:07:09,589 --> 01:07:15,230
diagrams. We can do once a week
Patent meeting with Tim and the team,

759
01:07:15,290 --> 01:07:16,290
Like a patent attorney.

760
01:07:16,670 --> 01:07:18,630
So we can take these ideas and then we
can submit them.

761
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:23,030
yes. That is, at a high level, like the
The tangible goal is how we get out of an idea

762
01:07:23,030 --> 01:07:26,590
Have a working prototype in less than 365 days?

763
01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:30,670
I agree with that completely. I mean, me
Think about giving up from below the milestones

764
01:07:30,670 --> 01:07:35,210
that we built and then also have
goals with it on the research side.

765
01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:39,600
It's tempting to be like, oh, you know,
It's going to be this and that.

766
01:07:40,540 --> 01:07:42,240
And I think the near term goals are...

767
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:12,280
I think the opportunity is super simple
illustrate to people watching

768
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,600
that you

769
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:20,260
are there all the time.

770
01:08:21,340 --> 01:08:26,640
And I think that represents it visually
In some way is really important for

771
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,000
children Like to illustrate, to read a book
or something.

772
01:08:37,210 --> 01:08:39,390
So this here is just a face.

773
01:08:40,010 --> 01:08:43,850
So kind of chest up. And it goes
do two things. So it's going to capture

774
01:08:43,850 --> 01:08:48,410
A 3D image of her face.
Then it will also cover you

775
01:08:48,410 --> 01:08:51,569
Pictures added to that to capture the
color right. So we're going to do a

776
01:08:51,569 --> 01:08:56,170
Neutral of you, just like you are now.
And then after we do that neutral,

777
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:59,689
We are going to return. you go
put the hair back and put on a bald cap

778
01:08:59,689 --> 01:09:00,488
on you

779
01:09:00,490 --> 01:09:03,149
And then I'm going to put just a few
Markers on your face.

780
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:07,300
Kind of a washable thing that I use for
Makes face markers.

781
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:12,260
And this is for sewing all these
Phrases together within a

782
01:09:12,260 --> 01:09:17,760
software. So I have 220 cameras in it
A place for the whole body. I have a 70 inch

783
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,020
Here it creates high resolution
A piece of geometry.

784
01:09:21,340 --> 01:09:27,359
And they use these phrases to sew
Together you later via hologram or

785
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:28,479
game or video.

786
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,760
Do you have any questions or
something?

787
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:42,000
I have a strange history with being in
Camera because I wasn't on camera

788
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,380
for a long time. And then I had everything
These people tell me to go get mine

789
01:09:45,380 --> 01:09:51,180
A picture taken and you will do all these segments.
And it ended up hurting us so much. e

790
01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:56,260
The last thing it would ever do was
do it, right? But now it is the

791
01:09:56,260 --> 01:09:59,660
something she is very well known for
Some photographers took pictures like this.

792
01:10:00,340 --> 01:10:02,400
You are talking about the famous picture,
right?

793
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:04,920
yes.

794
01:10:06,380 --> 01:10:11,260
I mean, you know that media narrative
On me it's like, somehow I wanted

795
01:10:11,260 --> 01:10:15,540
To be in the media or want to be in
All these stories, and I had them all

796
01:10:15,540 --> 01:10:20,740
People telling me to go do these stories
Help our company.

797
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:23,100
anyway,

798
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:28,180
Now I just want to make sure
that we use it in the right way, and

799
01:10:28,180 --> 01:10:29,340
It's the right thing to do.

800
01:10:36,020 --> 01:10:40,920
Three then go ahead. yes.
it's good We're going to do two of these

801
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:47,760
One two and then our second position was this
yes one

802
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:53,640
Two past three and now rising. i.e
She will also hold her phone

803
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,260
Let's get one with you by text.

804
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,960
I don't think to send messages. not? she didn't
going to text

805
01:11:15,340 --> 01:11:17,860
okay. I think it's good. yes. everything
true I understood.

806
01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:22,880
let's be happy Let's make a smile.
happy.

807
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,380
yes. good.

808
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,040
then, okay,

809
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,280
It's an open jaw. eyes closed.

810
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:31,980
gape. Like, eh.

811
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,700
okay. open your eyes Like, eh.

812
01:11:37,140 --> 01:11:38,720
like an open jaw.

813
01:11:46,590 --> 01:11:47,590
Hey, here it comes.

814
01:11:50,850 --> 01:11:51,850
Pay attention to this, Isaac.

815
01:12:00,010 --> 01:12:01,970
Ah, here it is. There it was, right?
yes.

816
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:15,770
You know, there's so much going on, though
In small, I am completely satisfied.

817
01:12:53,950 --> 01:13:00,950
There is no reason for me to deceive you
There's no reason for me to do that

818
01:13:00,950 --> 01:13:08,770
this

819
01:13:08,770 --> 01:13:14,130
The thing that throws you at you is strange
The majority is how much you order and you

820
01:13:14,130 --> 01:13:17,450
giving me so much access and you
Let me listen to you all day

821
01:13:17,450 --> 01:13:19,890
And you do this thing again

822
01:13:20,959 --> 01:13:24,540
You continue with Theranos. you
build it again.

823
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:31,400
It's like everything here points to
Someone who has nothing to hide.

824
01:13:33,940 --> 01:13:35,760
It's because I have nothing to do
to hide

825
01:13:38,460 --> 01:13:44,900
I build the idea again. It's not
Theranos, but that's the invention, the

826
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:45,960
Technology, the idea.

827
01:13:50,380 --> 01:13:56,360
Right now, the only thing I really have
You are the one to get out of it. because in the end,

828
01:13:56,780 --> 01:14:02,120
If it has to do with what you meant by what you are
Said, you're the only person who can

829
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:02,898
to answer it.

830
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:03,900
i know i know

831
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,720
I mean, I hope I show it with
my actions

832
01:14:06,980 --> 01:14:12,380
I'm not just telling you that there is a
the truth I live by this belief.

833
01:14:13,340 --> 01:14:17,100
But you are smart. You're smart, aren't you?

834
01:14:19,180 --> 01:14:21,680
I don't know about that. you are very
smart Come on, right?

835
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,000
I mean, that's what we're fighting for.
That's why I'm not, that's why I am

836
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,000
fighting

837
01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:27,460
otherwise,

838
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:32,220
I would be satisfied and have more time with
My baby, and that's what I want more of

839
01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:33,220
anything in the world.

840
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:43,320
I feel like it's a really nice place.

841
01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:46,140
Do you know how green it is?

842
01:15:48,060 --> 01:15:49,660
Immediately, it feels different.

843
01:15:51,740 --> 01:15:56,100
I look forward to looking at houses,
Find a safe and secure place

844
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:57,100
For items and walls.

845
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,180
Yes, we might stay.

846
01:16:03,820 --> 01:16:05,720
We have like a kind of border.

847
01:16:32,780 --> 01:16:38,020
I know these are your last hours
together. I don't know if you...

848
01:16:38,020 --> 01:16:44,900
We are all here, but if you want
Wait, I'm glad to go outside

849
01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:49,000
You can have some time. but if not,
it's ok

850
01:16:49,420 --> 01:16:52,020
We need to shower because we
You didn't shower this morning.

851
01:16:53,660 --> 01:16:57,640
Just to give you the option, that
You are going to be gone for a very long time

852
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,260
time You will not be able to...

853
01:17:00,170 --> 01:17:05,350
I'm having sex, so I'm happy to just leave.
I can get in my car if you want

854
01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:09,690
Time, just the two of you. i am happy
Take out the cameras and go.

855
01:18:02,570 --> 01:18:06,690
And there was this huge battle
Elizabeth's patent during COVID, you

856
01:18:06,690 --> 01:18:09,410
You know, when she wasn't even there anymore
related to society where people

857
01:18:09,410 --> 01:18:11,210
argued about laying hands
this.

858
01:18:11,610 --> 01:18:16,910
But none of it was absorbed because
Everything is very frothy now. you

859
01:18:16,910 --> 01:18:20,990
Know, people make a fortune, you
Know, outside of Elizabeth's story, you

860
01:18:20,990 --> 01:18:23,150
The downside of her story, not the downside of her story
positive side.

861
01:18:23,530 --> 01:18:26,570
But you look. I mean, when I die
All this is happening.

862
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:27,790
But you look.

863
01:18:28,110 --> 01:18:32,430
A few decades from now, the whole story
Going out on mine

864
01:18:32,430 --> 01:18:33,430
Daughter, our daughter.

865
01:18:33,630 --> 01:18:34,630
Oh, hey.

866
01:18:35,530 --> 01:18:36,530
how was it

867
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:39,390
good?

868
01:18:42,410 --> 01:18:46,770
Okay, so we're going to print it, and
Then get out, we're going to give

869
01:18:46,770 --> 01:18:50,370
go get something to eat Maybe a shake.

870
01:18:52,450 --> 01:18:55,790
I'm going to wear these shoes.

871
01:19:01,290 --> 01:19:05,390
Liz, I brought you a little card and a
thing.

872
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,880
A bit like a hidden gift but me
I didn't know your parents would be here

873
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,260
Or any good I don't know don't understand
Being offended is just like a joke

874
01:19:30,260 --> 01:19:36,440
It was like you know like dying hair
Glasses in case she wants to run away

875
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:43,100
to another country at the last moment only a
Joking sometimes I joke with her too

876
01:19:43,100 --> 01:19:46,880
But in any case it may not be suitable
the moment

877
01:19:51,180 --> 01:19:52,180
ok

878
01:19:52,340 --> 01:19:54,820
I'll just send you the contact list.
Thank you very much.

879
01:19:55,100 --> 01:19:56,100
So we got it.

880
01:19:58,740 --> 01:20:00,700
There's milk for Ivy in the fridge.

881
01:20:01,020 --> 01:20:02,020
okay.

882
01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:04,500
Bring it to her.

883
01:20:19,150 --> 01:20:21,170
Don't take my backpack in the back seat
with me

884
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,140
you got it

885
01:24:14,510 --> 01:24:17,770
Like, we don't know exactly where
There will be barriers. But

886
01:24:17,770 --> 01:24:20,710
Where there are barriers, Liz will
come up with solutions for these

887
01:24:20,710 --> 01:24:22,390
Barriers, which will come with a new one
ideas.

888
01:24:22,630 --> 01:24:28,410
So in a year, I think I would like to have
A working prototype, a team of people

889
01:24:28,410 --> 01:24:31,970
complex, then I want to start
Development of the first tests.

890
01:24:32,710 --> 01:24:34,070
hmm yes.

891
01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:39,870
I tried to catch that New York
A Times reporter to see if she has it

892
01:24:39,870 --> 01:24:40,870
quote.

893
01:24:48,780 --> 01:24:49,920
can you send them to me

894
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,780
not. I haven't checked the whole thing
for every year.

895
01:24:54,820 --> 01:24:55,820
right.

896
01:24:56,040 --> 01:25:00,200
Well... so a working prototype within a
A year, you say?

897
01:25:00,620 --> 01:25:01,620
Yes, that's the goal.

898
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,740
okay. That's the goal.

899
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,000
I guess

900
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:07,960
Call me when it's done.

901
01:25:47,410 --> 01:25:50,650
We use lasers.

902
01:26:16,420 --> 01:26:20,480
There were developments during
Over the past few years

903
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:23,300
The approach we take and the
The way we solve the problem

904
01:26:23,300 --> 01:26:25,320
uniquely possible today.

905
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,000
Artificial intelligence allows you to do
that.

906
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,000
And I think a lot of people still don't
know it is possible. and you

907
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:37,240
The reason we know this is because Joe
really not me i was in

908
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,860
At the forefront of the most innovative
technology in the world.

909
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,700
For these subcomponents and how they are
in use We have technology where we can

910
01:26:45,700 --> 01:26:52,280
Look at a specific molecule and start
With extremely high resolution, tell you

911
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,220
What's different about his fingerprint?
today than it was last week.

912
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,960
I mean, it changes everything b
medical universe.

913
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,300
The purple boxes here are lasers.

914
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:08,340
So these lasers can be 10,000 different
wavelengths of light each. you send

915
01:27:08,340 --> 01:27:13,040
light through a specimen, blood or urine
Or rock, that light changes wavelength

916
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:17,300
Depends on what's in it. and
Once we catch that light, we put it on

917
01:27:17,300 --> 01:27:19,960
into our computer to interpret the
results

918
01:27:20,300 --> 01:27:22,000
Is this the new device?

919
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:26,360
These components are part of the device.

920
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,980
All these will shrink into
Something about half the size of a

921
01:27:30,980 --> 01:27:35,300
A box of Kleenex. So you can check for disease
with that. But the accuracy is around 96,

922
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:40,460
97% Is it like harder to make decisions
together now?

923
01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:47,940
You and Liz I think there are so many
Trust that most things are me

924
01:27:47,940 --> 01:27:53,140
Don't really consult her as I know
what would she want i mean i don't know

925
01:27:53,140 --> 01:27:55,540
Anyone else who has a relationship like
as close as we have

926
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,040
into the magma flow.

927
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:23,500
How long does it take to take audio
Clips and then like duplicating her voice?

928
01:28:24,900 --> 01:28:30,280
We can upload a preliminary version of it
And run in 20 or 30 minutes.

929
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,260
Oh, really? okay. wow

930
01:28:40,220 --> 01:28:44,140
It's so crazy because when was it
taken...

931
01:28:44,900 --> 01:28:48,120
She was... she was a girl, like, a
a month before

932
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:50,860
She looks so different now.

933
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,580
Like, she looks a lot healthier.

934
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:57,320
now?

935
01:28:57,980 --> 01:28:58,980
yes.

936
01:28:59,660 --> 01:29:01,320
Doesn't she look healthy here?

937
01:29:01,740 --> 01:29:04,640
No, it's not that she's invisible
healthy I don't mean healthy. That's it

938
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,200
The wrong way to describe it. she looks
So much more appropriate.

939
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:10,700
Like, she has abs.

940
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,760
Healthy is the wrong way to describe it.

941
01:29:18,300 --> 01:29:23,700
That's what it's about. this
The ability to look at a person's body

942
01:29:23,700 --> 01:29:27,160
Chemistry at the molecular level.

943
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:34,260
How does it feel to be a part of
carries the Theranos

944
01:29:34,260 --> 01:29:40,080
mission? If you are going to solve the
Problem, it happens with a number

945
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,080
failures.

946
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,360
Theranos is one failure along the way, and
There will be more.

947
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,420
What do you feel they did wrong?

948
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,280
Oh, they used the wrong technology.

949
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:53,000
And that was a step on the way, and
Some people are doing it now. I am

950
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:59,340
Appreciate the line of questioning, though
I think the truth is that Joe wasn't

951
01:29:59,340 --> 01:30:03,740
there Well, I can understand you
question to ask

952
01:30:04,500 --> 01:30:05,500
is it ok

953
01:30:10,270 --> 01:30:16,030
I look at Theranos' effort as a
Plenty of information.

954
01:30:17,390 --> 01:30:20,250
There are things to do and there are things to do
what not to do

955
01:30:20,670 --> 01:30:25,870
And as for how it blew up, you know,
The claims they made, I mean, give it

956
01:30:25,870 --> 01:30:26,870
I just put it that way.

957
01:30:27,830 --> 01:30:33,650
Entrepreneurs, even the best ones,
You know, Elon Musk, made claims

958
01:30:33,650 --> 01:30:38,310
which are not true at any given point
time, right? We will have...

959
01:30:38,650 --> 01:30:44,750
A self-driving car, and people paid
money for it. So the point of...

960
01:30:44,750 --> 01:30:48,050
what's going on You can turn off
the cameras. thank you

961
01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:49,470
what's the problem

962
01:30:49,950 --> 01:30:53,090
If you want to talk about it, shut up
the cameras. I want to know the subject.

963
01:30:53,350 --> 01:30:56,250
I'm asking you to turn off the cameras.
Bill, you can't just walk in

964
01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:59,090
In the middle of an interview, you turned off
Cameras whenever you want. you don't

965
01:30:59,090 --> 01:31:02,030
the manager of it. I am not the
May I'm not trying to be

966
01:31:02,030 --> 01:31:05,330
May So I'm asking you to turn off
the cameras. I'm not going to engage

967
01:31:05,330 --> 01:31:06,039
with you

968
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,700
so can you tell me I have no idea what
you are talking right now i can

969
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:10,640
To tell you when the cameras are off, though
I'm not talking to you. ok sorry

970
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,960
Sorry, Joe. Because I asked you now
ten times. OK, turn off the cameras.

971
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:33,380
I applied to visit Liz
In prison with...

972
01:31:34,190 --> 01:31:36,350
for it to put the cameras in there.

973
01:31:36,670 --> 01:31:38,610
Oh, that will never happen.

974
01:31:39,330 --> 01:31:40,330
why?

975
01:31:43,530 --> 01:31:50,350
Because I know more about what they are about
allowed

976
01:31:50,350 --> 01:31:53,710
to do You think there is no way it is
going to happen?

977
01:31:55,010 --> 01:31:57,150
Low chance negative.

978
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,800
And I love how we repeat ours
A story about the woman he chose

979
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:08,920
Blueberries and changed the world with
Her gesture of kindness that lasted

980
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:10,320
from one person to another.

981
01:32:10,660 --> 01:32:15,140
I really meant it when we spoke
on discovering the deepest all

982
01:32:15,140 --> 01:32:19,500
Insights from our research and discoveries
In nature on Dr. Yes.

983
01:32:20,060 --> 01:32:22,600
So many amazing inventions are about to happen
was

984
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,900
Tomorrow we will work on our design
together again

985
01:32:26,220 --> 01:32:28,580
I really live for it.

986
01:32:28,970 --> 01:32:34,910
I think Liz would tell you if she was
Here let me speak for her for a moment

987
01:32:34,910 --> 01:32:41,730
This is what she thinks she will be
Remember for

988
01:32:41,730 --> 01:32:48,550
She is for our relationship as it is
She says that every action is

989
01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:53,390
Takes as long as she lives
Building monuments of love

990
01:33:00,270 --> 01:33:00,909
for you

991
01:33:00,910 --> 01:33:02,790
Yes. That's what she would say.

992
01:33:04,510 --> 01:33:11,150
Liz told me you can get pretty hot
Sometimes, which she didn't

993
01:33:11,150 --> 01:33:12,570
To detail, really.

994
01:33:12,890 --> 01:33:15,170
Yes. So what did she mean?

995
01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:18,490
I mean, you saw it today. I really got it
frustrated I'm really protective.

996
01:33:21,090 --> 01:33:25,410
May I ask, what are your arguments?
with her when you fight?

997
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,400
We never really had anything significant
argument.

998
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:35,100
I know it sounds crazy, but we really are
don't argue

999
01:33:35,940 --> 01:33:37,980
do you never argue

1000
01:33:38,540 --> 01:33:39,540
not.

1001
01:33:41,820 --> 01:33:45,820
Are you able to sense when she is
frustrated with you?

1002
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,580
I don't think she's really frustrated
with me I know it sounds crazy.

1003
01:33:54,340 --> 01:33:55,740
Have you ever asked her?

1004
01:33:57,870 --> 01:34:03,530
I mean she tells me about like
We tell each other roughly

1005
01:34:03,530 --> 01:34:08,670
Everything we think so you
Says you can sense she will tell

1006
01:34:08,670 --> 01:34:14,970
You if she was frustrated with you yes
Even without you asking to do it

1007
01:34:14,970 --> 01:34:21,670
You feel she has a track record of

1008
01:34:21,670 --> 01:34:24,210
Stand up for yourself in relationships

1009
01:34:53,420 --> 01:34:57,020
What are all these billboards?
Above L.A.? Are these yours?

1010
01:34:57,740 --> 01:34:59,080
I have nothing to do with it.

1011
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:01,660
I really have nothing to do with it.

1012
01:35:02,820 --> 01:35:04,040
what are they

1013
01:35:05,220 --> 01:35:08,860
do you know I don't know because I
I didn't ask, but my bet is in Los Angeles.

1014
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:13,020
He probably spent $350,000
Billboards, probably another $250,000

1015
01:35:13,020 --> 01:35:16,280
$300,000 in Florida. Who has two?
Billboards in Times Square?

1016
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,040
So you know this guy?

1017
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:25,140
He's the guy who just hates to watch
People who are wrongfully accused of them

1018
01:35:25,140 --> 01:35:29,500
things He also manages one of them
The largest diagnostic laboratories in the world

1019
01:35:29,500 --> 01:35:31,680
country, and he feels like it is
innocent

1020
01:35:34,060 --> 01:35:35,760
How do you feel about it?

1021
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:40,040
He uses her face like this to promote
His stuff?

1022
01:35:40,340 --> 01:35:45,520
Look, I really admire his conviction and
Effort to try and help us.

1023
01:35:46,350 --> 01:35:50,410
But he uses her famous picture,
right? Oh, man. you know what He is a

1024
01:35:50,410 --> 01:35:52,570
very nice guy The one who makes her
really upset

1025
01:35:52,910 --> 01:35:56,070
No, his intentions are, like, here. he is
Really want to help Liz.

1026
01:35:56,370 --> 01:36:01,570
In 2007, when I went on medication
and presented my machine, and they

1027
01:36:01,570 --> 01:36:07,190
They started testing it on patients, no one
Can understand what I'm trying

1028
01:36:07,190 --> 01:36:08,190
to present

1029
01:36:08,230 --> 01:36:09,710
take five

1030
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:11,790
Sir, how did it go now?

1031
01:36:13,890 --> 01:36:15,410
Listen, take five.

1032
01:36:42,020 --> 01:36:43,820
Hey friend, I have to run.

1033
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,660
But we're going to get her out soon,
a man I just feel like the tide

1034
01:36:47,660 --> 01:36:48,660
turning

1035
01:36:49,220 --> 01:36:50,620
Yes, I'll give you a ride.

1036
01:36:51,180 --> 01:36:56,060
That's the billboard guy you were
talking to?

1037
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,200
Yes, it was Ryan.

1038
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:00,720
Do you have plans for more of these?
Billboards?

1039
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,700
Yes, he cares a lot about Liz, so he does
checking in

1040
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:05,800
He flew here last weekend.

1041
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,180
Is she okay with him using her image
like that?

1042
01:37:09,620 --> 01:37:11,160
How many people used her image?

1043
01:37:11,890 --> 01:37:12,890
without her consent.

1044
01:37:13,110 --> 01:37:16,790
That's the nature of being public
figure. But it really upset her. like,

1045
01:37:16,810 --> 01:37:19,150
The last time she talked about it
Picture, she, like, cried.

1046
01:37:19,690 --> 01:37:20,690
what picture

1047
01:37:20,790 --> 01:37:23,490
The famous picture. No, she doesn't care
about that picture.

1048
01:37:24,330 --> 01:37:27,570
Well, she said people used to
It's not how she wanted it, and it hurt

1049
01:37:27,570 --> 01:37:28,570
her.

1050
01:37:29,330 --> 01:37:30,490
I didn't hear her say that.

1051
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:34,730
don't you remember that We all were
there I don't know what you are talking about

1052
01:37:34,730 --> 01:37:35,730
approximately

1053
01:37:35,870 --> 01:37:38,610
But what I can tell you is his intention
He is really pure.

1054
01:37:38,810 --> 01:37:40,730
He cares a lot about Liz. all his
The family does.

1055
01:37:41,020 --> 01:37:44,440
I mean, I watched some of his videos.
The guy, he, like, looks like a

1056
01:37:44,440 --> 01:37:46,880
coup d'état You think this association
is she good

1057
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,460
Probably not, no. Okay, so why?
do you do it

1058
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,940
Yes, his shipping is different than mine
Will, or Liz's. He hired a blonde

1059
01:37:52,940 --> 01:37:57,860
A woman pretending to be Liz on a leash
Club then came in and grabbed her

1060
01:37:57,860 --> 01:37:59,860
neck and then pretended to blow it himself
up

1061
01:38:00,060 --> 01:38:00,959
at 11 o'clock.

1062
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:01,719
in what?

1063
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:02,699
I think it was 11.

1064
01:38:02,700 --> 01:38:03,700
The strip club?

1065
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:04,800
Well, it's a club.

1066
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,640
It wasn't a strip club, but it was like
A music club in Miami.

1067
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,080
So they can really do whatever they are
want They're like, look, the guideline

1068
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:22,760
Says I have to do it, but I give
You are a test.

1069
01:38:23,140 --> 01:38:24,380
I give you 18 months.

1070
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,520
As soon as I checked it, I heard it there
She made a play about it.

1071
01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:31,480
The Hulu show.

1072
01:38:32,380 --> 01:38:33,880
So I started trying to see it.

1073
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,240
And I didn't get far, but I just know
Theranos.

1074
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:41,360
what was it

1075
01:38:41,420 --> 01:38:42,440
Treatment and diagnosis?

1076
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:44,320
yes.

1077
01:38:46,620 --> 01:38:53,520
You know she's going to Stanford and dropping out
Second year to make this device right

1078
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:58,940
That it can't be that their focus was on everything
The chemistry we are talking about

1079
01:38:58,940 --> 01:39:04,640
The test itself so everyone focuses
On the box but the box like because

1080
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:09,340
That's what every time she's going to love
They say different investors

1081
01:39:09,340 --> 01:39:14,500
Where a true prototype works and they
Couldn't get it to them

1082
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,160
So it was like all the madness.

1083
01:39:23,020 --> 01:39:25,080
Yeah, man, it's hard.

1084
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,660
I can't imagine what you're going through
Way, to be honest.

1085
01:39:33,420 --> 01:39:34,420
yes,

1086
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,520
So we started documenting Liz's life.

1087
01:39:47,460 --> 01:39:50,300
Starting to catch those moments
Because what we are going through is true

1088
01:39:50,300 --> 01:39:56,540
Now, well, I mean, in the simplest case
At a level, I feel like the reason why Liz

1089
01:39:56,540 --> 01:39:58,960
Called a wrong sponsor because
Nobody knows who she is.

1090
01:40:20,509 --> 01:40:22,550
can you say the name of the company

1091
01:40:22,830 --> 01:40:25,050
Theranos. No, Theranos.

1092
01:40:25,850 --> 01:40:28,670
It is a combination of therapy and
a diagnosis

1093
01:40:29,170 --> 01:40:30,590
Why not theranos?

1094
01:40:31,850 --> 01:40:33,910
Because the name is Theranos.

1095
01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:36,030
Actually, can we go to this part?

1096
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,060
What was Sonny's role in Theranos?

1097
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,940
He was the president.

1098
01:41:18,590 --> 01:41:21,830
and the chief operating officer of the
The company and the vice chairman of the

1099
01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:23,630
board And what was your role?

1100
01:41:23,970 --> 01:41:26,930
I was the CEO and chairman of the company
board

1101
01:41:28,450 --> 01:41:35,210
I believed him, but I know I am
No

1102
01:41:35,210 --> 01:41:41,490
Ask him like I am otherwise
would not maintain this relationship

1103
01:41:41,490 --> 01:41:42,490
was in place.

1104
01:41:53,090 --> 01:41:54,110
what? what?

1105
01:41:55,170 --> 01:41:56,750
how are you feeling how are you feeling

1106
01:41:59,070 --> 01:42:00,070
It's heartbreaking.

1107
01:42:00,230 --> 01:42:03,030
It's heartbreaking. The whole thing is
very very

1108
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:07,330
wild

1109
01:42:11,970 --> 01:42:17,790
When you, like, played her, what were
You, like, how did you base yours

1110
01:42:17,790 --> 01:42:20,270
Her performance? Like, what was that?
based on?

1111
01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:21,550
good.

1112
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:28,920
I had 10 to 12 hours of the deposition
Tapes, that it's just her sitting there.

1113
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:34,640
Then I watched every interview
Ever done, but I know it's been said

1114
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,160
For me from the beginning, we are not
You can talk to her. she didn't

1115
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:38,160
You can talk to us.

1116
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:39,500
How did it feel to you?

1117
01:42:40,060 --> 01:42:41,440
good. good.

1118
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,840
Because I was like, oh, well, we have
parameters here. We work in

1119
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,200
Fictional land.

1120
01:42:49,180 --> 01:42:50,840
You saw the show as fiction.

1121
01:42:53,129 --> 01:42:57,070
Ridiculous amounts of research and majority
Of the things we were allowed to all

1122
01:42:57,070 --> 01:43:00,790
Once we deviated a little from the path
was because it was allowed because it

1123
01:43:00,790 --> 01:43:07,530
You know TV and so was the wash
how strange i am

1124
01:43:07,530 --> 01:43:13,870
Don't know she really can be

1125
01:43:13,870 --> 01:43:19,510
crazy

1126
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,300
And she said she didn't want to be
Famous, she didn't want to enter

1127
01:43:23,300 --> 01:43:29,940
Pictures, but, like... but

1128
01:43:29,940 --> 01:43:34,880
This is not the kind of person who can
to create what she created.

1129
01:43:35,260 --> 01:43:36,560
what? what kind of person

1130
01:43:37,480 --> 01:43:41,980
I think it takes someone... I think it is
taking something else.

1131
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:47,220
yes. And I'm sorry, but she did it
Things that were frustrating.

1132
01:43:47,500 --> 01:43:49,840
There were many things that were
frustrating, and one of them is this,

1133
01:43:49,860 --> 01:43:53,890
Like... Sunny is the bad guy and she was
Just a victim of the sun and now she is

1134
01:43:53,890 --> 01:44:00,890
Going to jail is like that
It's not I mean is it possible

1135
01:44:00,890 --> 01:44:05,950
That it's sunny is just the reason it's sunny
The guy is lying to people

1136
01:44:05,950 --> 01:44:12,350
i.e

1137
01:44:12,350 --> 01:44:18,410
The challenge I have with everyone
This she was taken and entered

1138
01:44:18,410 --> 01:44:23,340
And now it's Billy just saying I know
what's going on with her and him even

1139
01:44:23,340 --> 01:44:27,500
Told me like I didn't even need to
Talk to her to find out what she wants

1140
01:44:27,500 --> 01:44:31,100
I wish there was a way you could find out
What a real piece of shit on billy bring it to her

1141
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:36,020
Find what to break them up that you want them to do
say goodbye don't find some shit on billy yeah

1142
01:44:36,020 --> 01:44:42,960
Of course no woman wants to see
Go be another woman

1143
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:43,960
dominated by it

1144
01:44:50,540 --> 01:44:55,480
Not that I would do that but I am me
Fantasy for a moment like playing her

1145
01:44:55,480 --> 01:45:02,460
Post to the trial when you fantasized
When I'm just when

1146
01:45:02,460 --> 01:45:09,380
I watched oh when you watch
What a scene it was when you

1147
01:45:09,380 --> 01:45:10,860
They sat with her on the couch

1148
01:45:29,250 --> 01:45:32,090
Yes. I feel like a bit haunted.

1149
01:45:34,650 --> 01:45:39,630
Because I should just sit with
Inconvenience of A, not knowing, and B, not

1150
01:45:39,630 --> 01:45:43,130
know how i feel about it, and c,
To be able to do nothing about it, and

1151
01:45:43,130 --> 01:45:49,990
D, just feeling crappy with myself and
My feelings about

1152
01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:51,320
this. many things

1153
01:45:52,460 --> 01:45:55,440
She is not just an idea in my head. this
should actually happen.

1154
01:46:01,480 --> 01:46:02,720
oh god

1155
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,840
They were like renting it when we were shooting.

1156
01:46:14,020 --> 01:46:15,020
It's really dusty.

1157
01:46:16,940 --> 01:46:18,060
Were those vitamins here?

1158
01:46:18,340 --> 01:46:19,980
I don't remember it. okay.

1159
01:46:20,350 --> 01:46:25,270
This coffee machine is without a doubt, the one
Toaster, of course, refrigerator,

1160
01:46:25,450 --> 01:46:26,450
microwave.

1161
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:17,240
was it here

1162
01:47:18,540 --> 01:47:24,800
I think she used it. They had it
here

1163
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:26,940
She didn't really drink coffee.

1164
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:32,340
do you miss her

1165
01:47:36,980 --> 01:47:40,740
miss? I mean... it must be weird.

1166
01:47:47,950 --> 01:47:49,210
I know, it's a weird word.

1167
01:47:54,630 --> 01:48:01,230
I can tell you something or a story
About how it was, like, something happened

1168
01:48:01,230 --> 01:48:05,530
Here I still think about him?

1169
01:48:08,970 --> 01:48:13,390
This was before we had cameras here. this
kind of...

1170
01:48:15,500 --> 01:48:18,200
So it's about how this whole project
arrived

1171
01:48:20,340 --> 01:48:21,520
Like when you first met?

1172
01:48:21,940 --> 01:48:22,940
yes.

1173
01:48:24,100 --> 01:48:29,100
Basically, I went down to meet her and
Billy's first time in San Diego

1174
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:34,100
After I heard a rumor through the
Geffen maybe she was interested

1175
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:36,180
in the documentation of her life.

1176
01:48:36,820 --> 01:48:38,040
Are you sure you don't want any of this?

1177
01:48:38,580 --> 01:48:39,880
i'm fine thanks.

1178
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:45,100
I made notes later on all of this
happened, so this script is kind of

1179
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:50,860
Based on my memory of what happened and
The comments I had.

1180
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:54,180
They showed me a clip of something like that
You created on YouTube.

1181
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,520
You were at a gas station and you talked to
owner

1182
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:03,780
Oh yeah, it was from a comedy show I
Used to do in the name of Nathan for you.

1183
01:49:04,260 --> 01:49:08,000
It was pretty clear from the moment I was
met her who...

1184
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:13,420
She had no idea who I was or that I had
I saw everything I made before.

1185
01:49:14,020 --> 01:49:16,880
Then she asked if you have children. do
do you have children

1186
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:18,780
not.

1187
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:28,640
bigger what?

1188
01:49:29,380 --> 01:49:30,380
to be a father

1189
01:49:32,340 --> 01:49:34,860
Which was so weird.

1190
01:49:35,460 --> 01:49:40,290
i don't know It was strange because when
She said it actually, like, did

1191
01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:41,690
I feel good for some reason.

1192
01:49:41,910 --> 01:49:43,230
It felt super honest.

1193
01:49:43,790 --> 01:49:48,750
But because I felt it, it
A strange combination of it feels so authentic

1194
01:49:48,750 --> 01:49:52,430
With her, but then I don't trust it, it
Felt like watching a magician.

1195
01:49:54,590 --> 01:49:56,530
Do you know who David Blaine is, the
a wizard?

1196
01:49:58,370 --> 01:49:59,370
I do.

1197
01:49:59,450 --> 01:50:00,810
And that just crossed your mind?

1198
01:50:01,330 --> 01:50:05,430
Yes, in an instant. And I wrote, this
That's actually word for word what I told her.

1199
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:11,900
OK, so David Blaine does it
A thing where he sticks an ice pick right

1200
01:50:11,900 --> 01:50:13,020
through his palm.

1201
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,260
And the way he presents it, it looks
Like a magic trick.

1202
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:21,440
But I really think he really is
Sticks the ice stick in his hand.

1203
01:50:21,660 --> 01:50:25,440
As I saw in the interview, he said he was
He dug a tiny hole through his hand, so that's it

1204
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:26,720
actually passes.

1205
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:32,060
But it always seems like a trick
People because of how he presents it.

1206
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:38,220
And what I find so interesting
You, is it following

1207
01:50:38,220 --> 01:50:41,760
everything that happened to you
With the reputation you have, no

1208
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:46,240
Offend, but I don't think anyone would
ever believe you ever

1209
01:50:46,660 --> 01:50:50,460
Like, you can tell the truth in line
As much as you want, and just not anyone's

1210
01:50:50,460 --> 01:50:53,360
gonna believe you So when I said
In her eyes, I remember her eyes lit up,

1211
01:50:53,500 --> 01:50:55,740
And she was, like, very excited about it
an idea

1212
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,660
And you don't really mean it,
Like, a good thing.

1213
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,420
not. And she takes credit.

1214
01:51:02,980 --> 01:51:04,900
Did you hear what Eitan said?

1215
01:51:05,540 --> 01:51:10,850
not. what did he say He said, I'm like,
Reminds him of David Blaine.

1216
01:51:11,330 --> 01:51:16,650
She was paraphrasing what I said.
And then they had this weird look

1217
01:51:16,650 --> 01:51:17,870
between each other.

1218
01:51:18,190 --> 01:51:21,890
כאילו שניהם שיתפו את הידיעה הזו
look And I was like, what?

1219
01:51:22,290 --> 01:51:27,570
Billy said your brain works at
An interesting way.

1220
01:51:30,010 --> 01:51:31,450
okay. We are...

1221
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:36,980
רק רוצה להכניס אנשים לחיינו
who think outside the box.

1222
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:42,760
And you look at things differently and
You don't care what people think.

1223
01:51:44,340 --> 01:51:48,100
So after that, things came together
really fast Actually we went from

1224
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:52,240
The first meeting to come to
Take photos at the San Diego home they were in

1225
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:53,780
Rent within a week.

1226
01:51:54,020 --> 01:51:55,020
oh god yes.

1227
01:51:55,700 --> 01:51:59,940
wow There was this urgency to accept
התחילה עם הפרויקט כי היא הייתה

1228
01:51:59,940 --> 01:52:00,940
going to jail soon

1229
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:06,640
So we started filming with them in front of her
היה חתום על שחרור הופעה כלשהו.

1230
01:52:07,340 --> 01:52:08,340
Oh-oh.

1231
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:13,500
אבל הדבר שאני לא יכול להוציא משלי
Head is something that happened in it

1232
01:52:13,500 --> 01:52:17,500
A meeting Billy said he wanted
There is before they agreed to sign

1233
01:52:17,500 --> 01:52:18,500
anything

1234
01:52:19,420 --> 01:52:21,900
אנחנו מגיעים לבית של חבר שלהם בל.א.

1235
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:28,900
זה הייתי אני, לאנס, המנהל המשותף של
That, and two managers

1236
01:52:28,900 --> 01:52:29,900
from A24.

1237
01:52:30,540 --> 01:52:36,580
וכולנו ישבנו סביב השולחן הזה וליז
התחיל לקרוא את פרק הפתיחה ל

1238
01:52:36,580 --> 01:52:41,220
It is, I suppose, a book she wrote.
הפרק הראשון שאני קורא לו Waking Up.

1239
01:52:42,780 --> 01:52:46,180
אהבה מציתה אומץ שלא יכול להיות
turn off The sheets in our bed are

1240
01:52:46,180 --> 01:52:48,180
so soft I roll over and look at you.

1241
01:52:48,700 --> 01:52:49,700
you are perfect

1242
01:52:50,020 --> 01:52:51,600
Your arms wrap around my heart.

1243
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:53,940
We did not know the reason for this
The meeting was

1244
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:58,300
So when she started reading it, we were
Like, oh, is there any point in that?

1245
01:52:58,990 --> 01:53:02,950
I wouldn't tell the author, but whatever
Once I saw the beam fall through us

1246
01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:09,890
Windows... So

1247
01:53:09,890 --> 01:53:14,170
you

1248
01:53:14,170 --> 01:53:20,290
Everyone says how great it is.
Well, we were trying to be polite.

1249
01:53:20,570 --> 01:53:22,950
I didn't really know what to say. for
Sure, of course.

1250
01:53:25,210 --> 01:53:27,750
Then you could hear her debut
a boy

1251
01:53:28,250 --> 01:53:33,090
Like kind of yelling and playing
another room so she got up in it

1252
01:53:33,090 --> 01:53:39,630
Get off the table and go see
The kids are fine

1253
01:53:39,630 --> 01:53:46,630
So guys I think we should
A conversation about the

1254
01:53:46,630 --> 01:53:53,530
The terms of our involvement in this project
ok

1255
01:53:53,530 --> 01:53:59,070
oh what you what do you mean by that
As soon as she was gone, Billy started talking

1256
01:53:59,070 --> 01:53:59,989
on money

1257
01:53:59,990 --> 01:54:01,870
I don't know what your vision is for
this project.

1258
01:54:03,010 --> 01:54:05,830
You are artists, and that's what
driving you

1259
01:54:06,270 --> 01:54:10,530
But I do know there is potential
This movie will also do a lot

1260
01:54:10,530 --> 01:54:17,210
Money, and I feel

1261
01:54:17,210 --> 01:54:24,030
Very much if this movie is made
Money, that we are

1262
01:54:24,030 --> 01:54:25,970
should be entitled to a share of it.

1263
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:32,880
Which is unusual and just kind of
unethical It's not common for people

1264
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:37,940
to profit from the documentaries
that they appear in it. I mean, I was

1265
01:54:37,940 --> 01:54:42,040
My voice is with them too. I said, I agree
With Ravi totally on it.

1266
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:43,420
This is not a good idea.

1267
01:54:44,860 --> 01:54:45,799
Why not?

1268
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:47,440
I mean, the optics are terrible.

1269
01:54:47,660 --> 01:54:50,800
If you make money from it
Documentary, people walk

1270
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,380
להטיל ספק במניעים של החבר'ה שלך להיכנס
זה מלכתחילה.

1271
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:54,900
וגם...

1272
01:54:55,290 --> 01:55:00,550
This may give the impression that you are
Guys have a creative take on what

1273
01:55:00,550 --> 01:55:05,710
The final product is זה לא, זה לא
טוב לסרט. No, but I looked

1274
01:55:05,710 --> 01:55:10,370
into it, and there are many, many
Examples of accepted documentary subjects

1275
01:55:10,370 --> 01:55:14,190
paid Meghan Markle and Prince Harry
סרט תיעודי בנטפליקס, קראתי איפשהו

1276
01:55:14,190 --> 01:55:16,090
that they were paid 100 million dollars to make a profit
that.

1277
01:55:16,330 --> 01:55:20,410
This is not a real documentary. אני יודע,
But Lance, I know it's bad, but the fact

1278
01:55:20,410 --> 01:55:22,390
זה שהם כן קיבלו על זה תשלום.

1279
01:55:22,730 --> 01:55:23,730
But then it's over.

1280
01:55:24,190 --> 01:55:26,990
It is not negotiable. איתו אוכל א
A slice of pizza.

1281
01:55:27,690 --> 01:55:32,110
Yeah, I guess the boyfriend got pizza
for this meeting. So there was one

1282
01:55:32,110 --> 01:55:33,250
Some pizzas there.

1283
01:55:34,510 --> 01:55:37,090
אממ, כאילו מה החלטת?

1284
01:55:38,590 --> 01:55:45,190
Well, at this point, like he had it all
leverage אז A24 הרגישו שהם לא

1285
01:55:45,190 --> 01:55:48,110
ברירה אלא לתת לו חלק מה
profits.

1286
01:55:48,410 --> 01:55:49,410
shut the hell up

1287
01:55:50,270 --> 01:55:51,270
yes.

1288
01:55:56,910 --> 01:55:57,950
איך זה גרם לך להרגיש?

1289
01:55:58,390 --> 01:56:03,370
Well, I was really frustrated because I am
הרגיש כמו שלמות הפרויקט

1290
01:56:03,370 --> 01:56:04,390
יכול להיות מחוץ לחלון.

1291
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:10,470
ובעצם שקלתי פשוט לעזוב
the project and say, well, I can't do it

1292
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:11,470
this.

1293
01:56:13,030 --> 01:56:16,390
אבל אז גם חשבתי שאולי יש
משהו מעניין בעובדה

1294
01:56:16,390 --> 01:56:22,310
שהיינו עדים לאיך
These guys are doing business and how is she

1295
01:56:22,310 --> 01:56:25,090
פועלת עם בן זוגה הרומנטי ב
relationships.

1296
01:56:25,650 --> 01:56:26,650
yes.

1297
01:56:27,950 --> 01:56:32,790
אני מניח שלמרות, כאילו, ליז
לא היה בחדר כשהוא התחיל

1298
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:36,350
When he makes demands, he ends up,
Like, obviously tell her about the deal

1299
01:56:36,350 --> 01:56:37,068
הוא עשה.

1300
01:56:37,070 --> 01:56:43,110
yes. אבל אז ימים לפני שהיא נסעה
בכלא, היא אמרה משהו שגרם לי

1301
01:56:43,110 --> 01:56:44,110
לשקול מחדש.

1302
01:56:44,650 --> 01:56:48,310
וזה בעצם משהו שאנחנו
יש במצלמה. אז זה באמת, אני יכול

1303
01:56:48,310 --> 01:56:49,830
להראות לך? yes. okay. yes.

1304
01:56:52,330 --> 01:56:53,850
זה עדיין בסן דייגו.

1305
01:56:54,110 --> 01:56:55,110
yes.

1306
01:56:56,620 --> 01:57:02,680
אני חושב שזה הרגע בזמן
ללכוד את זה

1307
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:08,080
סיפור לפני שאני הולך. ובתקווה שה
האמת יוצאת לאור. כי ברור שאני כן

1308
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:11,680
לא מרוויח כסף או שיש לו כסף
financial interest in it whatsoever.

1309
01:57:12,020 --> 01:57:14,040
So I just think it's the right thing to do.

1310
01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:20,280
what do you make of it

1311
01:57:22,300 --> 01:57:25,100
I believe she has no idea he is
asked.

1312
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:26,960
for money

1313
01:57:27,340 --> 01:57:32,180
Unless she's just... I believe her. I am
don't know why

1314
01:57:33,580 --> 01:57:34,580
like what?

1315
01:57:34,820 --> 01:57:40,760
I think this is the moment in time
capture

1316
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:46,180
This story before I leave. and
Hope the truth comes out.

1317
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:51,260
Because obviously I don't prepare
money or having any economic interest

1318
01:57:51,260 --> 01:57:52,139
It's whatever it is.

1319
01:57:52,140 --> 01:57:54,480
So I just think it's the right thing to do.

1320
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:59,800
Like when it happened you can see on
My face that I love, really not

1321
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:05,420
know how to respond i mean there is
Of course there's a chance that's all

1322
01:58:05,420 --> 01:58:12,000
Complete Correct There is a theory that
It was coordinated

1323
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:18,660
An event she deliberately left out of
Room at a certain point so that Billy could

1324
01:58:18,660 --> 01:58:21,960
I think we need to talk about it
A conversation about ah

1325
01:58:24,759 --> 01:58:29,900
And in the end, it was all just a ruse
Or a plan to keep her hands clean

1326
01:58:29,900 --> 01:58:34,200
while her partner does the dirty work.

1327
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:38,140
And this is an insight into how she is
working

1328
01:58:40,940 --> 01:58:41,540
But

1329
01:58:41,540 --> 01:58:48,080
for

1330
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:54,980
For some reason, when she says that and
The way she says it, I don't know why

1331
01:58:54,980 --> 01:59:00,420
But my first instinct is to believe her
It's just in time for

1332
01:59:00,420 --> 01:59:07,420
Capture this story before I go and
Hope the truth comes out

1333
01:59:07,420 --> 01:59:12,100
Because obviously I don't prepare
money or having any economic interest

1334
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:15,200
It doesn't matter so yes she seems right
like

1335
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:21,960
Here's the thing she can really do

1336
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:27,670
To be it out of the loop like when transactions
done in her name

1337
01:59:27,670 --> 01:59:34,390
This is the woman who created Theranos
like me

1338
01:59:34,390 --> 01:59:40,350
I don't even know if there are two ways
About that or it's completely honest

1339
01:59:40,350 --> 01:59:47,050
And in fact she has no idea about
Deal Phillies made or

1340
01:59:47,050 --> 01:59:50,910
She really can be

1341
01:59:52,910 --> 01:59:55,270
The most manipulative person ever
alive

1342
01:59:56,710 --> 02:00:02,030
It will not be our fault if we are cheated
by her again.

1343
02:00:02,710 --> 02:00:04,190
I don't want to let that happen.

1344
02:00:05,910 --> 02:00:08,110
It's just personal to me. yes.

1345
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:13,390
She has nothing to gain from him
behave like this It's crazy.

1346
02:00:13,950 --> 02:00:18,090
money. Like she said, she never cared
on money And she probably still is

1347
02:00:18,090 --> 02:00:20,190
No. She probably doesn't know. do
do you believe it

1348
02:00:21,430 --> 02:00:22,730
She doesn't care about money.

1349
02:00:24,490 --> 02:00:27,970
I think she cares about money. i think
She tries to point out that it isn't

1350
02:00:27,970 --> 02:00:28,970
about the money

1351
02:00:29,030 --> 02:00:30,030
Don't get caught.

1352
02:00:30,290 --> 02:00:33,430
Don't be tempted. don't let her in
your head

1353
02:00:33,730 --> 02:00:36,930
She still looks pretty innocent.

1354
02:00:37,610 --> 02:00:44,050
If he's interested, and you know,
if he

1355
02:00:44,050 --> 02:00:49,650
Available, I don't know, I think I can
Probably disarm him and then...

1356
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,340
Ask him the questions that were there
ask him

1357
02:00:53,940 --> 02:00:57,640
Well, what did you get out of it that I am?
Can't? I just feel like people are trusting

1358
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:00,260
me People talk to me.

1359
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:02,320
Sometimes they say too much.

1360
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:05,060
I always take advantage of it.

1361
02:01:10,700 --> 02:01:13,380
Does he know anything about
Restoration?

1362
02:01:14,180 --> 02:01:17,820
not. what does billy know about mine
Involvement?

1363
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:24,540
All I told him was that we got it
getting to know each other casually,

1364
02:01:24,780 --> 02:01:30,780
that you are in Texas, and that I asked
If you want, tag.

1365
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:34,420
And he looks like he's into it.

1366
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:36,620
Did he ask why I wanted?

1367
02:01:38,820 --> 02:01:40,200
He actually isn't.

1368
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:41,760
Okay, interesting.

1369
02:01:42,860 --> 02:01:45,100
He doesn't know me or anything about me.

1370
02:01:48,490 --> 02:01:52,450
So what does that mean? It just means I am
Feel like an undercover cop now.

1371
02:01:52,610 --> 02:01:53,830
Like, crazy.

1372
02:01:54,550 --> 02:01:56,030
And do you like that feeling?

1373
02:02:02,310 --> 02:02:06,010
are you ok

1374
02:02:06,230 --> 02:02:07,230
yes.

1375
02:02:08,350 --> 02:02:10,230
Yeah, just another day, you know?

1376
02:02:11,130 --> 02:02:12,150
Let's go get our food.

1377
02:02:12,670 --> 02:02:13,810
Uh-oh, anyone out there?

1378
02:02:14,130 --> 02:02:16,670
yes. Oh, wow. No, for the kids.

1379
02:02:17,050 --> 02:02:20,030
okay. Is there food outside? Amanda,
Nice to meet you. you are so tall

1380
02:02:20,310 --> 02:02:21,310
what do you need

1381
02:02:22,150 --> 02:02:26,510
OK, let's go read your guys' books.
I'm going to read your books. I am

1382
02:02:26,510 --> 02:02:30,990
Going to put you to sleep, and I will be
Back maybe in 15 minutes with ours

1383
02:02:30,990 --> 02:02:35,830
grandchildren. say good night give her a
big hug Listen, you're a real stand-up

1384
02:02:35,830 --> 02:02:36,830
ma'am, okay?

1385
02:02:37,410 --> 02:02:41,810
And your pajamas are the best, and
What you drink shows

1386
02:02:41,810 --> 02:02:44,430
delicious So you did really well.
It's a white Russian.

1387
02:02:45,390 --> 02:02:48,330
You keep it up, huh? good night,
children

1388
02:02:48,750 --> 02:02:49,750
This is mom.

1389
02:02:50,530 --> 02:02:55,670
We only have two minutes with mom
right now

1390
02:02:56,490 --> 02:02:57,650
Just wait a second.

1391
02:02:57,950 --> 02:03:01,570
This call will be recorded and recorded
Follow up at any time.

1392
02:03:02,450 --> 02:03:04,910
To access this conversation, press 5.

1393
02:03:05,190 --> 02:03:06,790
You can start talking now.

1394
02:03:07,230 --> 02:03:09,390
hey baby I'm here with Wills and Ivy.

1395
02:03:10,270 --> 02:03:11,270
Oh, good.

1396
02:03:11,530 --> 02:03:13,690
shame! Hello, mom.

1397
02:03:16,910 --> 02:03:20,090
I know we only have two minutes, but we
love you

1398
02:03:21,010 --> 02:03:27,190
Then Nathan's and Lance's and Amanda's
here say hello

1399
02:03:28,050 --> 02:03:29,050
hi

1400
02:03:29,350 --> 02:03:31,250
Did you know I was going to be here?

1401
02:03:35,850 --> 02:03:36,850
okay.

1402
02:03:38,410 --> 02:03:42,030
I'm so sorry. I don't want to ruin you
Two minutes with your beautiful family.

1403
02:03:43,470 --> 02:03:46,910
we are having fun you have a
beautiful family

1404
02:03:49,430 --> 02:03:50,430
no,

1405
02:03:50,890 --> 02:03:54,050
I don't even, yeah. sorry, you
wonderful

1406
02:03:54,910 --> 02:03:55,910
i love you

1407
02:03:59,070 --> 02:04:00,070
yes,

1408
02:04:00,670 --> 02:04:01,790
you can call me later

1409
02:04:02,790 --> 02:04:03,790
okay.

1410
02:04:04,090 --> 02:04:05,410
Say goodbye, mom.

1411
02:04:05,690 --> 02:04:06,589
bye, mom

1412
02:04:06,590 --> 02:04:07,590
Big bye.

1413
02:04:08,650 --> 02:04:10,470
OK, say goodnight, everyone.

1414
02:04:10,730 --> 02:04:11,730
good night

1415
02:04:14,730 --> 02:04:17,310
I don't know if I knew. I don't know if
I knew

1416
02:04:18,430 --> 02:04:22,790
what? She said, do you know I am going
to be here? I don't know if I knew.

1417
02:04:23,230 --> 02:04:24,290
Is that what you said? yes.

1418
02:04:30,130 --> 02:04:31,710
You know how many shares she ever has
sold?

1419
02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:34,510
anything.

1420
02:04:34,710 --> 02:04:35,710
zero.

1421
02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:40,850
She could literally have a billion
And half a dollar personally and still

1422
02:04:40,850 --> 02:04:42,650
was a majority shareholder in
business Why do you earn money?

1423
02:04:42,650 --> 02:04:43,650
now?

1424
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:46,880
She is paid 30 cents an hour.

1425
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:48,200
what about you

1426
02:04:48,820 --> 02:04:50,040
I have my own business.

1427
02:04:50,900 --> 02:04:55,720
i don't know I mean, honestly, the
The thing I was thinking about is simple

1428
02:04:55,720 --> 02:05:02,300
Like, like how

1429
02:05:02,300 --> 02:05:07,640
decisions are made and how much it costs,

1430
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:14,220
You know, she, it's her wishes or
these are,

1431
02:05:14,590 --> 02:05:20,170
yours or these both i think they are
One in the same because life because

1432
02:05:20,170 --> 02:05:26,830
We both mean to live is one for
Our family is like mine

1433
02:05:26,830 --> 02:05:31,890
she is my soul do you have a relationship
Criticizes everyone as if they don't exist

1434
02:05:31,890 --> 02:05:35,930
A relationship criticizes the whole person I have
laid for 899 days, that's eight days

1435
02:05:35,930 --> 02:05:37,490
899 tomorrow 900.

1436
02:05:38,190 --> 02:05:43,210
I'm counting the days that I don't
There is sex yes day 900 except like

1437
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:44,520
Pamela Henderson.

1438
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:46,719
forgiveness?

1439
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:48,700
she masturbates Yes, this is a joke.

1440
02:05:49,020 --> 02:05:51,720
I feel like a lot of women would say sex
better alone

1441
02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:54,980
Yes, that's because most men don't
Good at that. are you good at sex

1442
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:56,480
Yes, I'm fucking great.

1443
02:05:57,340 --> 02:05:58,340
how do you know

1444
02:05:58,440 --> 02:05:59,820
Because I lied every time.

1445
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:01,160
lied about what

1446
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:02,280
for each partner.

1447
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:06,580
As you would say if it was bad, oh, it is
was so good Yes, of course I would. So

1448
02:06:06,580 --> 02:06:08,540
How do you know you didn't get it?
this? That's my point.

1449
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:13,340
Can I change the subject? let's talk
on something else.

1450
02:06:13,900 --> 02:06:18,320
sex. So how does Liz get information? like,
She doesn't have internet there,

1451
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:20,160
right? I send her so many emails.

1452
02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:22,660
She has email but no internet.

1453
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:24,000
yes.

1454
02:06:24,460 --> 02:06:28,340
So she's, like, tweeting, like,
today

1455
02:06:29,020 --> 02:06:30,140
how does it work

1456
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:31,800
Yes, some of them are just me.

1457
02:06:32,940 --> 02:06:33,940
some?

1458
02:06:35,020 --> 02:06:36,460
And does she do others?

1459
02:06:37,140 --> 02:06:39,140
Yeah, I'd say 80% of it is her.

1460
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:44,200
How does she do it well I mean
put it physically on the Internet

1461
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:48,800
But she sends me an email and says here
This line of text and I copy it I paste

1462
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:52,780
It and I put it online but she
Writes did you tell her that

1463
02:06:52,780 --> 02:06:58,580
you do it yes she knows it
Everything she sends is like fair game

1464
02:06:58,580 --> 02:07:04,120
These are not, she just trusts a few things
which does not frame as for the

1465
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:07,890
Internet I put there name how it happened
start?

1466
02:07:08,130 --> 02:07:09,890
Like, is she like, I want to start?

1467
02:07:10,430 --> 02:07:11,430
No, I told her.

1468
02:07:11,870 --> 02:07:15,050
I just said, to hell with it. I'm tired of what
silence

1469
02:07:17,370 --> 02:07:18,370
what does she say

1470
02:07:18,690 --> 02:07:21,890
And you, and I can name you some of them
them. what are you saying yes. what is it

1471
02:07:21,890 --> 02:07:28,670
this? What is it, what is she talking about?
About? Like biotechnology? does she talk

1472
02:07:28,670 --> 02:07:29,670
What is she doing?

1473
02:07:30,110 --> 02:07:33,590
So there's this picture of like shit
weed It means, what do you call it

1474
02:07:33,590 --> 02:07:35,590
some kind of weed where were you from?

1475
02:07:37,610 --> 02:07:40,270
Wait, she posted that? No, someone
Post it. Ah.

1476
02:07:40,810 --> 02:07:42,070
And I wrote.

1477
02:07:43,310 --> 02:07:44,310
Oh, she wrote.

1478
02:07:44,330 --> 02:07:46,270
No, I wrote it. But like her.

1479
02:07:46,910 --> 02:07:48,290
Yes, from her account.

1480
02:07:49,190 --> 02:07:53,730
I said, mandatory trial extension and
Free trip to the single housing

1481
02:07:53,730 --> 02:07:54,730
unit.

1482
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:55,870
Oh, my God.

1483
02:07:56,750 --> 02:07:57,750
you wrote it

1484
02:07:58,030 --> 02:08:02,770
I wrote it. Oh, my God. what was she
Say if she saw her ex's account? she was

1485
02:08:02,770 --> 02:08:04,010
Like, it's not me.

1486
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:06,660
No, it's her. She will think so
funny

1487
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:08,200
yes.

1488
02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:09,840
is it

1489
02:08:09,900 --> 02:08:11,720
How do we do the calculation?

1490
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:14,840
She had an account from 15 years ago
years ago

1491
02:08:15,060 --> 02:08:16,500
Then how did you gain access?

1492
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:23,600
I sent a message to one of the top people at X
And I just said, hey, this is who I am.

1493
02:08:23,740 --> 02:08:24,780
Here is a power of attorney.

1494
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:26,780
I need access to her account.

1495
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:28,000
power of attorney?

1496
02:08:28,380 --> 02:08:30,360
Yes, I can legally do anything for Liz.

1497
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:31,560
thing.

1498
02:08:32,300 --> 02:08:33,700
You have a power of attorney.

1499
02:08:34,350 --> 02:08:36,850
Yes, like non-removable, so I can
literally do everything.

1500
02:08:38,010 --> 02:08:40,650
I don't understand how the hell you got there
that.

1501
02:08:41,490 --> 02:08:44,610
She signed a document that said I had
power of attorney Why would she do it?

1502
02:08:44,610 --> 02:08:47,150
this? Because we trust each other. But
she is alive

1503
02:08:48,190 --> 02:08:49,530
yes. and functioning.

1504
02:08:49,770 --> 02:08:50,770
yes.

1505
02:08:51,530 --> 02:08:53,170
But there are many things she cannot do
to do

1506
02:08:54,010 --> 02:08:56,150
But don't do anything crazy.

1507
02:08:56,890 --> 02:09:00,390
I mean, there's just a bunch of nasties
Things here that are really not worth it to me

1508
02:09:00,390 --> 02:09:01,390
to say

1509
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:08,200
The problem is if I had to, like, clean up
It's all about her, I think too long

1510
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:11,380
She just let things slide, and I didn't
damn take it

1511
02:09:11,620 --> 02:09:13,080
I know, but it's not her.

1512
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:18,820
yes. It's you, and I don't think so
good. I don't think it's helpful. she

1513
02:09:18,820 --> 02:09:19,880
Be cool with everything I said.

1514
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:21,320
Amanda,

1515
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:25,060
With all due respect, your advice is one
One of the last I would take on it

1516
02:09:25,060 --> 02:09:27,900
subject You said it yourself. yours
No social media experience

1517
02:09:27,900 --> 02:09:30,420
Just succeeded during the course
of the last six months. It was very

1518
02:09:30,420 --> 02:09:31,420
Successful, actually.

1519
02:09:31,540 --> 02:09:33,200
at a distance and 50% of the country.

1520
02:09:33,780 --> 02:09:34,780
Wait, for what?

1521
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:38,100
Yes, Amanda was dragged
social media because she said something

1522
02:09:38,100 --> 02:09:39,100
Shit about Charlie Kirk.

1523
02:09:39,300 --> 02:09:40,780
I just said he hates.

1524
02:09:41,820 --> 02:09:45,540
For two days, I was like... she got it
Fucking trailer.

1525
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,080
Is she a Charlie Kirk fan?

1526
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:48,478
I do.

1527
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,040
you? yes. I think he is fucking
a glass

1528
02:09:52,180 --> 02:09:55,680
And I hope his voice will carry. i can say
Something about him really fast? you

1529
02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:58,080
Not going to like my political opinion.
I don't want to hear it, but here I can

1530
02:09:58,080 --> 02:09:59,620
say something? Because I prefer to read
than you

1531
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,160
I don't like the fact that he was
My performance when he was with these

1532
02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:06,520
people You are a fucking actress.

1533
02:10:06,900 --> 02:10:08,100
Then an idiot.

1534
02:10:08,540 --> 02:10:11,940
Yes, but my feeling. who played mine
A woman without research.

1535
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:15,060
Talk about performative. one character,
But it wasn't her.

1536
02:10:16,020 --> 02:10:19,560
It was based on her. I think the writers
And the producers of the shows are

1537
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:20,560
Disgusting people.

1538
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:21,880
Well, listen.

1539
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:25,740
Because they just did a bunch of shit
up. I hear what you're saying. I'm simple

1540
02:10:25,740 --> 02:10:29,140
Gives you a little more context.
Yes, I'm going to ruin their lives.

1541
02:10:29,460 --> 02:10:30,460
Whose life?

1542
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:31,720
Fucking everyone.

1543
02:10:32,780 --> 02:10:34,460
I have revenge in my heart.

1544
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:36,480
each? Fucking everyone.

1545
02:10:37,020 --> 02:10:41,180
You can still be angry, but you can
make more of an impact.

1546
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:44,240
Well, the problem is that I'm fucking good at it
this. well what?

1547
02:10:46,180 --> 02:10:47,600
I mean, I'm pretty strategic.

1548
02:10:47,820 --> 02:10:48,980
I have good resources.

1549
02:10:49,500 --> 02:10:51,420
I know people who can do approx
anything

1550
02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:54,080
hurt people?

1551
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:00,300
I mean, that's exactly what it says.

1552
02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:18,860
But then Liz is on my mind, and she is
Saying, don't feel that way.

1553
02:11:19,420 --> 02:11:24,660
it doesn't matter i love you
Everything is fine and then I relax he

1554
02:11:24,660 --> 02:11:31,580
He's mad bat he's an angry guy why
was

1555
02:11:31,580 --> 02:11:37,480
You will be her voice, the only voice she has
in the world now that she is inside

1556
02:11:37,480 --> 02:11:41,440
I don't mean some of the things that he is
Advertiser only good I don't know if it is

1557
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:45,120
comes from him or her but it's simple
Doesn't sound like a response

1558
02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:46,120
like that

1559
02:11:46,510 --> 02:11:51,610
But does Arnos have the technology, she does
promised? Yes, you fucking idiot. like,

1560
02:11:51,610 --> 02:11:53,370
She will never say that.

1561
02:11:54,010 --> 02:11:57,190
She will never say that. But that's it
Her Twitter and it's like verified.

1562
02:11:57,730 --> 02:11:58,730
It's crazy.

1563
02:11:58,990 --> 02:12:03,350
Like, someone asks, you share
A crypto token? And she goes, damn it.

1564
02:12:03,710 --> 02:12:09,490
Like, in what world? It is not to be
Supports her having a voice at all.

1565
02:12:09,650 --> 02:12:14,370
And it's kind of crazy because,
So someone asked her on Twitter.

1566
02:12:15,130 --> 02:12:16,910
Did you watch the fallout?

1567
02:12:18,130 --> 02:12:19,930
And she wrote, you never will.

1568
02:12:20,910 --> 02:12:25,990
But she saw it. and when is it
A documentary is coming out, it will be like

1569
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:27,470
perceived as false.

1570
02:12:27,910 --> 02:12:34,310
Nathan, I'm 99.9% sure she has no idea
that it was written

1571
02:13:10,670 --> 02:13:14,850
with whey protein in it. So you can accept
medium and divide it into two glasses.

1572
02:13:16,070 --> 02:13:17,070
yes,

1573
02:13:17,390 --> 02:13:18,510
This is what I would recommend.

1574
02:13:18,850 --> 02:13:22,890
Thank you very much. When I left
Jail yesterday with both of them

1575
02:13:22,890 --> 02:13:25,930
Children in the car and only me, there is
Three cars stop my car.

1576
02:13:26,470 --> 02:13:32,490
So I recorded an interview for
The purpose of, like, if something happens

1577
02:13:32,490 --> 02:13:33,490
Me, it goes up in the air.

1578
02:13:33,830 --> 02:13:38,210
what do you mean something happens to him
you? Like if I get killed or if I get hurt

1579
02:13:38,210 --> 02:13:45,200
Or... someone is trying to shut me up then
Oh everything goes

1580
02:13:45,200 --> 02:13:51,060
out so it's a bit like insurance though
Do you feel like there is a closeness?

1581
02:13:51,060 --> 02:13:56,460
Threat right now I mean there is a reason
Why do I carry a gun on me 24 7 365.

1582
02:13:59,220 --> 02:14:06,120
um you got a gun on you now oh
Here it worked yes

1583
02:14:06,890 --> 02:14:12,010
You're scary good if you let it be
Correct data hello I'm even blue

1584
02:14:12,010 --> 02:14:17,470
What with what the purpose
Something like this lets people do

1585
02:14:17,470 --> 02:14:22,650
whatever they want with it oh yes it is
Just like the public does it, yes

1586
02:14:22,650 --> 02:14:26,110
going to happen anyway so if you
it will happen you can be

1587
02:14:26,110 --> 02:14:29,830
Well there is her representation as she is
She actually looks like her, right?

1588
02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:33,270
If they think her pictures are like marble
Sex like Cornus yes

1589
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:36,820
I think people are going to do it.
It can't be stopped.

1590
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:42,840
okay.

1591
02:14:43,780 --> 02:14:44,940
let me ask you this

1592
02:14:47,020 --> 02:14:54,020
Is Liz aware of the details of the deal?
you did for

1593
02:14:54,020 --> 02:14:55,940
For her to appear in this documentary?

1594
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:58,760
What details?

1595
02:14:59,680 --> 02:15:01,680
So Liz told me...

1596
02:15:02,490 --> 02:15:04,830
before she came in? Well, she's aware of that
Some of the details.

1597
02:15:09,190 --> 02:15:12,210
The things related to, like, money?

1598
02:15:13,010 --> 02:15:14,010
not.

1599
02:15:14,690 --> 02:15:17,110
I really didn't want her to know
of all this.

1600
02:15:17,550 --> 02:15:18,550
why?

1601
02:15:21,870 --> 02:15:24,050
Because she handled a lot of shit
at the time

1602
02:15:28,130 --> 02:15:29,130
okay.

1603
02:15:30,610 --> 02:15:31,670
Like, be specific.

1604
02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:35,240
And I'm happy to answer anything
Specific question.

1605
02:15:36,040 --> 02:15:37,040
okay.

1606
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:43,200
Does she want to earn money?
this?

1607
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:44,440
not.

1608
02:15:56,760 --> 02:15:59,060
the main thing.

1609
02:15:59,610 --> 02:16:03,490
that you tried to argue
From the beginning he Liz is someone who

1610
02:16:03,490 --> 02:16:08,650
Not caring about money is nothing
drives her yes so you take a

1611
02:16:08,650 --> 02:16:13,750
An action that inserts it directly
Asked yes and she didn't want but

1612
02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:19,690
I am very practical the reason why I am
Upload it as if there is still

1613
02:16:19,690 --> 02:16:26,170
As an opportunity to change it i
mean when you earn like the

1614
02:16:26,170 --> 02:16:31,060
The back end of such a film does not
Pay until the movie comes out like that

1615
02:16:31,060 --> 02:16:38,020
As you know I am

1616
02:16:38,020 --> 02:16:41,580
Hear you and I'll think about it
this

1617
02:16:41,580 --> 02:16:48,139
when you said

1618
02:16:48,139 --> 02:16:54,379
We said he knew some of the details of
The deal you made

1619
02:16:54,379 --> 02:17:00,980
Yes what were those details oh my god
Can't remember all I remember is this

1620
02:17:00,980 --> 02:17:07,219
She was not involved in the process

1621
02:17:07,219 --> 02:17:12,020
So I don't remember what she saw or what
She knew about um

1622
02:17:12,020 --> 02:17:18,580
ok i am

1623
02:17:18,580 --> 02:17:21,520
Don't know if she ever saw it

1624
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:17,240
dear elizabeth, stop

1625
02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:23,639
I want to try to set up a direct
communication line to you

1626
02:18:23,639 --> 02:18:29,160
If that's something you'd be open to,
a period

1627
02:18:32,650 --> 02:18:38,690
It was challenging to talk like before
Umm

1628
02:18:38,690 --> 02:18:45,629
Period Billy is worried about leaks to
the press

1629
02:18:45,629 --> 02:18:50,889
And since your mail is monitored i
know i can't say much

1630
02:18:50,889 --> 02:18:57,809
Comma but you have

1631
02:18:57,809 --> 02:19:01,530
I've been thinking a lot lately and

1632
02:19:02,830 --> 02:19:08,290
I have a few questions that I think only
you can answer

1633
02:19:08,290 --> 02:19:15,230
period I'm in

1634
02:19:15,230 --> 02:19:22,090
A hotel room in New York City right now
I am here because recently

1635
02:19:22,090 --> 02:19:28,410
He went through a breakup but you didn't
You should worry about me because I do

1636
02:19:28,410 --> 02:19:29,410
ok

1637
02:19:32,650 --> 02:19:33,670
exclamation mark

1638
02:19:34,570 --> 02:19:39,490
Billy mentioned that there was no way
coordinate a phone call with you at a

1639
02:19:39,490 --> 02:19:43,450
specific time because it comes first,
Submit a name first and everyone is simple

1640
02:19:43,450 --> 02:19:45,950
You have to wait in a really long line.

1641
02:19:48,010 --> 02:19:50,590
period. So what about this?

1642
02:19:52,270 --> 02:19:56,770
I guess it's at least three days ago
You receive this letter.

1643
02:19:57,770 --> 02:19:59,910
So on December 19th.

1644
02:20:00,910 --> 02:20:07,770
I'll be by my phone from 7am.
until 7pm your time, Texas time.

1645
02:20:09,810 --> 02:20:12,310
I really hope to hear from you that day,
Liz.

1646
02:20:15,570 --> 02:20:16,770
Keep it up there.

1647
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:49,320
OK, Billy just sent a message.

1648
02:20:50,740 --> 02:20:53,120
Liz said you want her to call it
morning

1649
02:20:53,940 --> 02:20:57,560
Is this still something you want? can
Can you give me the context?

1650
02:21:04,980 --> 02:21:06,300
So she told him.

1651
02:21:10,040 --> 02:21:11,160
what is the window

1652
02:21:11,580 --> 02:21:13,020
He just sent it in a message.

1653
02:21:15,950 --> 02:21:18,790
Will her 8.15 time work for her?

1654
02:21:40,170 --> 02:21:41,170
peace?

1655
02:21:42,430 --> 02:21:43,430
hello, hi

1656
02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:51,680
in the video to confirm the call but she
I just left the video fine

1657
02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:58,520
can she can call despite or well i
Could not confirm

1658
02:21:58,520 --> 02:22:03,040
I tried to call you with her
Well she was in the video to be able to

1659
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:06,940
tell her oh but i sent a message i sent you a message
that I'm around

1660
02:22:14,890 --> 02:22:16,410
I thought it was already confirmed.

1661
02:22:17,390 --> 02:22:19,330
Will she be around to talk?

1662
02:22:47,980 --> 02:22:49,600
Yes, because I want it on camera.

1663
02:22:50,740 --> 02:22:51,940
It's a documentary.

1664
02:22:56,420 --> 02:22:57,420
well,

1665
02:23:07,680 --> 02:23:11,300
Why wouldn't you want to take it easy
things?

1666
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:36,900
The warden is at the scene at the moment
If she ignores you

1667
02:23:36,900 --> 02:23:40,580
recording her while she's in jail,
It will be sent elsewhere

1668
02:23:40,580 --> 02:23:41,580
facility.

1669
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:44,820
If someone is recording her while she's inside
prison?

1670
02:23:47,440 --> 02:23:54,180
If they think she is knowingly
facilitate recording,

1671
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:56,280
She can be sent to a higher institution...

1672
02:23:56,910 --> 02:24:00,610
A security facility, which means that the
Kids and I won't be able to see her

1673
02:24:00,610 --> 02:24:01,610
on the weekends.

1674
02:24:01,770 --> 02:24:06,490
And the last thing I want to do is
To do that then I have to switch to fucking

1675
02:24:06,490 --> 02:24:07,490
Arizona.

1676
02:24:10,050 --> 02:24:13,150
I just think... I just think we should
hear her

1677
02:24:14,590 --> 02:24:18,450
I understand that. The subject of your film, you
can't talk to

1678
02:24:19,090 --> 02:24:21,230
This creates an impossible scenario.

1679
02:24:21,590 --> 02:24:22,670
I totally understand.

1680
02:24:23,150 --> 02:24:26,300
But if you intend to put
It's out, I probably can... I promise

1681
02:24:26,300 --> 02:24:27,300
You are going to fuck her.

1682
02:24:34,460 --> 02:24:38,000
Yeah, I don't... just hope you can
See it from my point of view.

1683
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:44,300
Oh, so we'll see if she calls you or
No.

1684
02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:27,760
Oh, hell no

1685
02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:30,320
It wasn't winter now

1686
02:25:54,890 --> 02:25:57,030
The conversation of all teachers, press 7.

1687
02:25:57,270 --> 02:26:02,690
To reject this call, you can hang up now
start talking now

1688
02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:47,540
start talking now hello hi hi it's me

1689
02:26:47,540 --> 02:26:50,540
Tried to catch you and that
Didn't let that phone number go

1690
02:26:50,540 --> 02:26:55,180
way but I don't know if you
Together, oh yes, you called Lance

1691
02:26:55,180 --> 02:27:01,940
Phone oh yes oh no worries how are you
i am good

1692
02:27:01,940 --> 02:27:06,700
How are you? Go ahead
A little further from the microphone yes

1693
02:27:09,930 --> 02:27:13,790
I thought about you and
Everything you went for

1694
02:27:13,790 --> 02:27:15,710
through I will find the right person.

1695
02:27:16,290 --> 02:27:17,290
I know that.

1696
02:27:18,750 --> 02:27:20,170
That's nice of you to say.

1697
02:27:20,610 --> 02:27:23,730
I know what it means to pass
All this.

1698
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:28,050
It's nice to hear your voice.

1699
02:27:28,510 --> 02:27:29,510
i know

1700
02:27:30,410 --> 02:27:32,010
We have to get you out here soon.

1701
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:35,230
yes.

1702
02:27:35,770 --> 02:27:37,370
I think it would be great.

1703
02:27:37,690 --> 02:27:38,690
me too

1704
02:27:39,470 --> 02:27:42,990
Phone minutes are going to be short,
by the way It's going to stop.

1705
02:27:45,810 --> 02:27:49,610
how are your dates going

1706
02:27:51,530 --> 02:27:52,530
what do you mean

1707
02:27:54,050 --> 02:27:55,029
forgiveness?

1708
02:27:55,030 --> 02:27:56,030
what do you mean by that

1709
02:28:23,080 --> 02:28:24,080
oh,

1710
02:28:26,300 --> 02:28:31,900
Just kind of open ended. i don't know
what's going on I just was

1711
02:28:31,900 --> 02:28:33,460
Curious, just like small talk.

1712
02:28:34,730 --> 02:28:35,609
how is your day

1713
02:28:35,610 --> 02:28:39,170
Like, well, I'm in a cell and locked up
down a lot.

1714
02:28:39,390 --> 02:28:40,390
Mm-hmm.

1715
02:28:42,570 --> 02:28:44,690
I wanted to ask you something.

1716
02:28:45,070 --> 02:28:48,610
Oh, my God. This guy will hang up. I am
Won't take my minutes, but I just...

1717
02:28:48,610 --> 02:28:50,150
You should come visit.

1718
02:28:50,470 --> 02:28:52,790
Oh, um, yes. i want to see you

1719
02:28:53,030 --> 02:28:55,310
We will make it happen. come, come, come

1720
02:28:55,850 --> 02:28:56,870
ok, ok

1721
02:28:57,110 --> 02:28:58,110
OK, bye.

1722
02:28:59,310 --> 02:29:00,310
okay.

1723
02:29:09,360 --> 02:29:10,680
You just have to get there.

1724
02:29:11,660 --> 02:29:14,980
This is the only time you're going to have
Every private moment with her.

1725
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:18,960
And I also think she covers it
Because it is recorded by me

1726
02:29:18,960 --> 02:29:20,900
prison. That's why she wants you
Come on.

1727
02:29:21,280 --> 02:29:26,340
But then the issue is kind of like, we
You don't have the ability to bring cameras

1728
02:29:26,340 --> 02:29:26,979
there

1729
02:29:26,980 --> 02:29:29,040
But you'll just have to trust
yourself

1730
02:29:30,460 --> 02:29:33,500
Trust yourself in the fact that you are
Really good at asking questions.

1731
02:29:33,740 --> 02:29:36,060
How do you convey what I'm experiencing?

1732
02:29:37,130 --> 02:29:42,610
I will restore anything you want me to do
restore, and... I mean, it's not

1733
02:29:42,610 --> 02:29:49,110
insult you You are very talented
Actress, very good performer, but you

1734
02:29:49,110 --> 02:29:50,110
know, you're not her

1735
02:29:50,370 --> 02:29:57,270
No, I know. And so... but guess how many
People believed it was

1736
02:29:57,270 --> 02:29:58,270
Her when I played her?

1737
02:29:58,770 --> 02:29:59,770
many.

1738
02:29:59,950 --> 02:30:05,110
I know, but the point is not convincing
People it's her. The point is...

1739
02:30:05,640 --> 02:30:12,340
All right, what I find out there, is this
should

1740
02:30:12,340 --> 02:30:14,620
be conveyed accurately.

1741
02:30:17,140 --> 02:30:18,320
what did he do

1742
02:30:18,540 --> 02:30:19,680
He farted. it's ok

1743
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:21,000
he is old

1744
02:31:45,750 --> 02:31:48,130
Sorry, I'm a little sick.

1745
02:31:54,910 --> 02:31:55,910
So what happened?

1746
02:32:01,150 --> 02:32:03,170
The first thing you do is move
security

1747
02:32:03,490 --> 02:32:07,510
You are not allowed any electronic
Device, no camera, no recording

1748
02:32:07,510 --> 02:32:08,810
Equipment, not even a watch.

1749
02:32:10,830 --> 02:32:14,870
The only thing you are allowed to bring
Have your credit card and ID.

1750
02:32:16,150 --> 02:32:20,530
I know from talking to Billy that he is
Does not appear at the very beginning

1751
02:32:20,530 --> 02:32:26,290
Visitors' time, which is 8 am my time
The thought is that if I get there exactly at 8,

1752
02:32:26,890 --> 02:32:30,630
Then I'll have a whole hour with her
At least before he shows up.

1753
02:32:33,090 --> 02:32:37,890
Then the door opens from the inside of
The prison to the visitor's room and two

1754
02:32:37,890 --> 02:32:39,710
Other prisoners leave.

1755
02:32:40,750 --> 02:32:47,170
no she what do you think good
There is no clock in the room so I don't

1756
02:32:47,170 --> 02:32:50,150
know how much time passes and
They are supposed to call her and she

1757
02:32:50,150 --> 02:32:56,150
Should be there in five minutes
So I started looking for a watch and I

1758
02:32:56,150 --> 02:33:03,050
Can't find one yes and then I'm about
Wander over to the vending machines

1759
02:33:03,050 --> 02:33:09,790
And I look at these and I see there
It's a clock on the credit card

1760
02:33:09,790 --> 02:33:11,510
Reads in the vending machine.

1761
02:33:11,790 --> 02:33:15,470
And I see there that time is like
8.30.

1762
02:33:15,730 --> 02:33:18,970
So I've been waiting for 20 minutes and
She hasn't gone out yet.

1763
02:33:22,130 --> 02:33:25,050
I return to my seat and continue to wait.

1764
02:33:27,090 --> 02:33:30,990
And I'm starting to wonder if she's going
appear at all.

1765
02:33:43,340 --> 02:33:46,420
So the door opens again, and that's it.

1766
02:33:46,760 --> 02:33:52,500
She looked straight at me, came closer to me.
I got up, and she hugged me.

1767
02:33:53,620 --> 02:33:57,180
And it was a very tight hug.

1768
02:33:59,140 --> 02:34:03,860
And I felt her body, like, vibrating,
Like shaking in a hug.

1769
02:34:04,520 --> 02:34:09,000
And it lasted about 10 seconds, I'd say.

1770
02:34:09,740 --> 02:34:10,780
was she shaking

1771
02:34:14,500 --> 02:34:17,420
authentic. Yes, that's how it felt from
her.

1772
02:34:19,240 --> 02:34:22,320
And then immediately she tells me, you
to look different

1773
02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:24,579
oh yes

1774
02:34:24,580 --> 02:34:25,580
how?

1775
02:34:25,960 --> 02:34:27,420
You look more serious.

1776
02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:31,480
Didn't I think it was serious before?

1777
02:34:32,060 --> 02:34:33,460
i don't know whatever.

1778
02:34:33,800 --> 02:34:39,700
But we sit and I notice her family
A friend was killed.

1779
02:34:41,820 --> 02:34:48,600
machines and she was like looking over
So I just felt like you

1780
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:55,540
Want some food and she was like that
Be great but you're not

1781
02:34:55,540 --> 02:35:01,500
We have to, we just can't buy
Snacking ourselves from the machines yes

1782
02:35:01,500 --> 02:35:08,420
oh oh yes no problem oh what are you
Want I love the turkey

1783
02:35:08,420 --> 02:35:10,980
Funny she likes turkey so yeah
I am

1784
02:35:12,789 --> 02:35:16,930
So you get to the vending machine and
It's already 8.55 and you know Billy

1785
02:35:16,930 --> 02:35:18,310
Coming in five minutes.

1786
02:35:18,630 --> 02:35:22,630
I know Billy arrives around nine, so I
Just don't know how much time I have.

1787
02:35:24,610 --> 02:35:29,110
So how do you know Amanda Seyfried, she
say?

1788
02:35:29,410 --> 02:35:31,350
I mean, the way she says it is Seyfried.

1789
02:35:33,230 --> 02:35:34,770
So how do you know Amanda Seyfried?

1790
02:35:35,970 --> 02:35:37,350
So she picks me up.

1791
02:35:37,650 --> 02:35:39,890
So yes, she educated you. it was you
Surprised by this?

1792
02:35:43,180 --> 02:35:46,240
She says, you know, people here think
that Amanda's show is a documentary.

1793
02:35:48,360 --> 02:35:50,180
They think everything happened there.

1794
02:35:51,660 --> 02:35:55,360
A guard approached me and said that I
Was a terrible person, and I asked what

1795
02:35:55,360 --> 02:35:56,360
they read

1796
02:35:56,760 --> 02:35:59,100
And all they saw was Amanda's show.

1797
02:36:02,520 --> 02:36:05,380
Yeah, I don't really know about that
things

1798
02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:11,360
I get treated worse here because
Her description of me.

1799
02:36:13,160 --> 02:36:16,940
And it really depends on what a woman does
Something like that for another woman

1800
02:36:16,940 --> 02:36:23,700
Okay wow I didn't do it to her she did
it to herself

1801
02:36:23,700 --> 02:36:30,040
I think this is me referring to my defenses
Because I'm like

1802
02:36:30,040 --> 02:36:36,720
yes i feel bad because of the way you are
treated here um

1803
02:36:36,720 --> 02:36:41,120
But it is not our job to teach either
People's stuff

1804
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:47,820
I mean, I have nothing against Amanda
Personally, but the women who did their thing

1805
02:36:47,820 --> 02:36:52,040
show, all of them, they knew exactly
what they did They knew that

1806
02:36:52,040 --> 02:36:53,460
The show was full of lies.

1807
02:36:53,720 --> 02:36:57,860
I mean, no lies, it's not lies.
Like, these are not lies.

1808
02:36:58,220 --> 02:37:00,740
It's fucking TV, you know.

1809
02:37:01,540 --> 02:37:07,160
If the show wasn't made, people
was still bothering her

1810
02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:09,040
What they think she did.

1811
02:37:10,540 --> 02:37:14,240
When the machine exploded and blood
The squirt came out and then she said, you know

1812
02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:15,240
what? It doesn't matter.

1813
02:37:15,660 --> 02:37:16,680
did it happen

1814
02:37:19,180 --> 02:37:24,540
I don't know if she says, you know what?
It didn't matter because she acted like

1815
02:37:24,540 --> 02:37:26,740
But you know what? It didn't matter.

1816
02:37:27,460 --> 02:37:30,480
But there isn't... It's possible that she is
said that

1817
02:37:31,880 --> 02:37:33,660
But this line is complex.

1818
02:37:33,960 --> 02:37:37,220
Yes, absolutely. We weren't there. this
So painful to...

1819
02:37:38,120 --> 02:37:42,640
I'm just, I'm tired of having others
People talk for me.

1820
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:47,500
I just don't want that to ever happen
again

1821
02:37:49,360 --> 02:37:54,160
I think that's all Billy got into
her head Now is this a conspiracy?

1822
02:37:55,400 --> 02:37:56,460
Amanda's show? okay.

1823
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:57,720
hmm

1824
02:37:59,500 --> 02:38:04,700
So, I'm getting a little nervous
Because we didn't get to the point

1825
02:38:04,700 --> 02:38:07,040
I still came to talk about him.

1826
02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:14,300
And I just don't know when Billy goes
show up then um when we were with you

1827
02:38:14,300 --> 02:38:20,900
A few years ago in San Diego Del
Mar Billy ever told you that

1828
02:38:20,900 --> 02:38:27,240
Details of the deal he made for you
Involvement in this project eh

1829
02:38:27,240 --> 02:38:31,560
I'm not quite sure what you mean

1830
02:38:35,470 --> 02:38:41,450
Negotiated a contract to receive payment a
Some of the film's profits.

1831
02:38:46,750 --> 02:38:52,650
Yeah, I mean, I'm not really into it

1832
02:38:52,650 --> 02:38:57,030
Because it's just not really mine
thing

1833
02:39:01,580 --> 02:39:05,520
Billy told me you know some of them
Details of the deal he made.

1834
02:39:07,900 --> 02:39:09,720
What details did you know?

1835
02:39:10,620 --> 02:39:14,460
And Liz says, well, I knew he was
talking to you about it.

1836
02:39:19,280 --> 02:39:21,440
Well, I knew he was talking to you
on that.

1837
02:39:25,500 --> 02:39:28,440
So she knew it when she went upstairs.

1838
02:39:30,000 --> 02:39:35,680
check on the children that the money
Things were up for discussion

1839
02:39:35,680 --> 02:39:41,700
Because she tells you she knew and
That clarifies

1840
02:39:41,700 --> 02:39:48,140
The fact that she has knowledge of
A deal that is very strange um and that

1841
02:39:48,140 --> 02:39:53,980
Starting it starts to feel like
She's just trying to save her hands

1842
02:39:53,980 --> 02:39:59,120
clean because it's interesting because
When she told me that

1843
02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:00,840
how did you feel

1844
02:40:02,840 --> 02:40:05,840
I didn't get it right away as...

1845
02:40:05,840 --> 02:40:11,940
Or she must be cheating on me, so...

1846
02:40:11,940 --> 02:40:16,420
Maybe she didn't actually mean it like that
This, I wonder.

1847
02:40:16,800 --> 02:40:23,640
Maybe she said, well, I knew he was
Talking to you about something, not about that.

1848
02:40:26,840 --> 02:40:28,700
Well, those are two different ones, for
for sure

1849
02:40:33,840 --> 02:40:38,900
And yes, I feel confident about it.
okay.

1850
02:40:39,380 --> 02:40:45,960
So you can change it in your script,
Actually? will you change

1851
02:40:45,960 --> 02:40:47,680
Is it for something?

1852
02:40:52,100 --> 02:40:55,320
I knew he was talking to you about
something

1853
02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:57,279
he did

1854
02:40:57,280 --> 02:41:00,300
yes. Again, that's more his thing.

1855
02:41:00,560 --> 02:41:02,160
We are very separate in these things.

1856
02:41:05,200 --> 02:41:08,940
I guess what I'm wondering is whether it
something you want

1857
02:41:09,680 --> 02:41:13,560
Because there is still time to change
this.

1858
02:41:14,380 --> 02:41:15,460
This is not my world.

1859
02:41:16,040 --> 02:41:19,540
And more than that, it's not about me, it's about you
know? It wasn't my focus at the time.

1860
02:41:20,340 --> 02:41:22,180
How does this have nothing to do with you?

1861
02:41:22,640 --> 02:41:26,580
You negotiated a deal to profit from you
participation in this film.

1862
02:41:26,780 --> 02:41:28,960
A deal that both of you are going to benefit from
M.

1863
02:41:29,340 --> 02:41:32,300
And you keep ringing that bell that you are
Don't care about money.

1864
02:41:32,500 --> 02:41:33,179
i don't

1865
02:41:33,180 --> 02:41:34,640
Okay, so you have...

1866
02:41:34,990 --> 02:41:40,070
No opinion on how to reverse this thing
into an opportunity for profit going

1867
02:41:40,070 --> 02:41:45,310
influence this perception of yours? I am
Fully understand where you are

1868
02:41:45,310 --> 02:41:49,150
Come on, and if you think it's bad
For the project, I will talk to Billy.

1869
02:41:49,750 --> 02:41:52,450
But our finances are completely
separate

1870
02:41:52,930 --> 02:41:53,970
Come on, Liz.

1871
02:41:54,230 --> 02:41:55,230
You have children together.

1872
02:41:55,570 --> 02:42:00,410
So whether she knew about
Financial part of the deal is one thing.

1873
02:42:01,490 --> 02:42:03,530
Maybe she is, maybe she isn't.

1874
02:42:04,390 --> 02:42:09,950
But I couldn't understand how she was
felt about it. And it almost looks like

1875
02:42:09,950 --> 02:42:13,750
She had no opinion of her own. give me
Talk to Billy.

1876
02:42:14,470 --> 02:42:16,950
And I'm sure there will be no way, there will be
be the right one.

1877
02:42:17,530 --> 02:42:18,910
It's so frustrating.

1878
02:42:19,610 --> 02:42:25,170
How is she going to get help if
She's really like hiding behind it

1879
02:42:25,170 --> 02:42:26,830
Jackass?

1880
02:42:31,210 --> 02:42:35,930
I find it interesting that you can be
Someone who doesn't care about money,

1881
02:42:35,990 --> 02:42:40,350
But you are intertwined with someone who
doing

1882
02:42:41,730 --> 02:42:46,210
And you are not eager to influence
decisions in this relationship.

1883
02:42:47,570 --> 02:42:50,250
Does that actually mean you don't care?
about money?

1884
02:42:50,850 --> 02:42:55,510
Kind of hard to tell, isn't it? Nathan, me
You have no option to worry

1885
02:42:55,510 --> 02:42:59,490
money I owe hundreds of millions
compensation in dollars.

1886
02:43:00,490 --> 02:43:02,590
Every dollar I earn, they take from me.

1887
02:43:03,990 --> 02:43:05,750
I promise I will talk to him.

1888
02:43:06,130 --> 02:43:10,470
Are you even aware of the decisions he is making?
doing on your behalf?

1889
02:43:11,590 --> 02:43:16,990
That image of yourself that you hate is
Currently blowing up all the billboards

1890
02:43:16,990 --> 02:43:17,789
across America.

1891
02:43:17,790 --> 02:43:18,790
I heard about it.

1892
02:43:18,970 --> 02:43:20,250
Did he tell you about it?

1893
02:43:20,850 --> 02:43:25,470
That is, he created an AI version of
You can say whatever he wants

1894
02:43:25,470 --> 02:43:28,270
to say And he's pretending to be you
Twitter?

1895
02:43:29,390 --> 02:43:30,790
Telling people to go screw themselves?

1896
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:35,030
I can't imagine these things
that you want

1897
02:43:35,910 --> 02:43:38,250
Billy has his own way of doing things.

1898
02:43:41,450 --> 02:43:42,450
okay.

1899
02:43:47,950 --> 02:43:54,070
This whole experience, this fire
we go through together

1900
02:43:54,330 --> 02:43:58,430
It just forged our love in…

1901
02:43:59,449 --> 02:44:01,310
Such an intense way.

1902
02:44:02,910 --> 02:44:03,910
vanilla?

1903
02:44:04,070 --> 02:44:05,070
yes.

1904
02:44:07,350 --> 02:44:08,790
I feel him so deeply.

1905
02:44:12,750 --> 02:44:17,790
Even when I'm in my cell, alone, you
know, i...

1906
02:44:17,790 --> 02:44:20,970
I feel him with me.

1907
02:44:21,470 --> 02:44:23,030
And we don't even have to talk.

1908
02:44:25,050 --> 02:44:27,610
And that's how I talk to him.

1909
02:44:28,270 --> 02:44:30,210
I have conversations with him at my place
head

1910
02:44:32,190 --> 02:44:36,990
And I know what he feels and what he is
would say

1911
02:44:52,520 --> 02:44:55,720
I see these couples who were together
For years and years, and they are

1912
02:44:55,720 --> 02:44:58,200
Supposedly in love, but you can see it
They are not.

1913
02:45:00,840 --> 02:45:01,860
And I'm like, why?

1914
02:45:03,080 --> 02:45:04,080
why?

1915
02:45:06,320 --> 02:45:07,780
Why would you do this to yourself?

1916
02:45:11,300 --> 02:45:12,740
And I never had that with Billy.

1917
02:45:20,750 --> 02:45:27,250
Pretend with you then it's just so real
you guys

1918
02:45:27,250 --> 02:45:33,470
And we build monuments of love

1919
02:45:33,470 --> 02:45:37,770
each other every day

1920
02:45:37,770 --> 02:45:45,790
ever

1921
02:45:45,790 --> 02:45:51,050
Ever since Billy came into my life
to be convinced that our idea of what

1922
02:45:51,050 --> 02:45:55,510
We believe that being God is actually love

1923
02:45:55,510 --> 02:46:07,630
I am

1924
02:46:07,630 --> 02:46:13,650
I mean I don't know if it's like a
Stockholm syndrome symptom i

1925
02:46:13,650 --> 02:46:18,310
I don't know I guess at the moment

1926
02:46:20,710 --> 02:46:23,570
I thought it was, like, pretty nice.

1927
02:46:24,830 --> 02:46:27,310
are you kidding me He is the best
selfish?

1928
02:46:28,550 --> 02:46:30,270
He is a narcissist.

1929
02:46:33,910 --> 02:46:39,330
Well, I think the love is, like, real.

1930
02:46:41,650 --> 02:46:45,670
I didn't do it

1931
02:46:45,670 --> 02:46:49,330
sense

1932
02:46:53,210 --> 02:46:55,370
pressure. I felt no fear.

1933
02:46:57,390 --> 02:47:04,030
I felt simply whole, unrestrained,
True love for this man.

1934
02:47:08,790 --> 02:47:09,810
I'm coming back.

1935
02:47:10,530 --> 02:47:11,530
she looks great

1936
02:47:11,730 --> 02:47:12,730
ok,

1937
02:47:13,110 --> 02:47:15,870
I think I'm going to cut. I will give you
Guys some time. You sure you don't want to

1938
02:47:15,870 --> 02:47:16,409
stay?

1939
02:47:16,410 --> 02:47:18,270
yes. OK, let's go outside.

1940
02:47:18,970 --> 02:47:19,970
I will get permission.

1941
02:47:58,350 --> 02:47:59,770
I'm just curious.

1942
02:48:00,870 --> 02:48:01,870
yes.

1943
02:48:03,690 --> 02:48:10,310
There were moments or there was a moment in which
You were alone in prison

1944
02:48:10,310 --> 02:48:16,190
And I just wonder if there was
Maybe a moment where

1945
02:48:16,190 --> 02:48:22,850
She was cheating

1946
02:48:22,850 --> 02:48:29,190
Or manipulative and you are not.
including that because you

1947
02:48:29,190 --> 02:48:33,230
to protect her.

1948
02:48:35,590 --> 02:48:37,690
why do you think i do this

1949
02:48:40,650 --> 02:48:41,650
i don't know

1950
02:48:43,590 --> 02:48:47,030
Well, what do you mean? i don't know I am
Feel like... coming out of nowhere? No, I am

1951
02:48:47,030 --> 02:48:53,430
Just feel like you're... just...
don't do

1952
02:48:53,430 --> 02:48:56,750
want to describe something that might
hurt her.

1953
02:48:57,480 --> 02:49:00,200
Why wouldn't I want to present
Something that might hurt her?

1954
02:49:01,720 --> 02:49:03,320
Because you care about her?

1955
02:49:12,460 --> 02:49:17,840
I'm not there, I'm not really there
My feelings into it.

1956
02:49:18,200 --> 02:49:24,420
Or I try not to, I just try
be precise

1957
02:49:59,820 --> 02:50:00,820
why are you smiling