1 00:00:06,047 --> 00:00:08,425 [tense music plays] 2 00:00:15,348 --> 00:00:17,350 -[Brianne] Hey. Hey. -Hi. 3 00:00:17,434 --> 00:00:20,520 [Brianne] So, I wanna go over some photos from last night. 4 00:00:20,603 --> 00:00:23,189 -[Cecilie] Okay. -[Brianne] He's with another woman. 5 00:00:23,898 --> 00:00:25,650 The question is who? 6 00:00:25,734 --> 00:00:28,028 We don't know if she's a relative, a friend. 7 00:00:28,111 --> 00:00:30,530 -Or his next victim at this point, so… -[Cecilie] Yeah. 8 00:00:30,613 --> 00:00:33,283 [Brianne] Why don't you send this to Jill and see if she knows who she is? 9 00:00:33,366 --> 00:00:35,326 So that we could potentially help her. 10 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:39,831 Hi, Jill. We have some pictures 11 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:43,668 of Todd with a woman. 12 00:00:44,294 --> 00:00:45,336 Have you seen her before? 13 00:00:45,420 --> 00:00:47,505 -Is that an okay way? -Yeah. Do you know her? 14 00:00:47,589 --> 00:00:48,757 Do you know her? Yeah. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,634 [Cecilie] Oh, she's typing already. I hope she knows. 16 00:00:52,594 --> 00:00:53,928 [music ends abruptly] 17 00:00:54,012 --> 00:00:57,057 -"I do." -What'd she say? [gasps] 18 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:58,975 -Can you come in? -[Brianne] Yeah. 19 00:00:59,059 --> 00:01:00,351 -Oh, hi. -[Jill] Hello. 20 00:01:00,435 --> 00:01:02,270 -[Brianne] Hi, beautiful. -[Cecilie] Hi, Jill. 21 00:01:02,353 --> 00:01:05,774 [Cecilie] We would love to know if-- What you know about her. 22 00:01:05,857 --> 00:01:07,442 Her name is Kitt. 23 00:01:07,525 --> 00:01:09,652 [Brianne] Okay. How'd you come to meet her? 24 00:01:09,736 --> 00:01:12,781 Todd actually introduced us at poker one night. 25 00:01:12,864 --> 00:01:14,282 [Brianne] Okay. 26 00:01:14,365 --> 00:01:18,328 From what I know, she's given him a substantial amount of money. 27 00:01:18,411 --> 00:01:20,538 [Brianne] She is involved with him then. 28 00:01:20,622 --> 00:01:23,041 -Yes. She definitely is. -[Brianne] Oh, goodness. 29 00:01:23,124 --> 00:01:25,418 [Cecilie] Have you tried to warn her? 30 00:01:25,502 --> 00:01:26,461 -Have you-- -Yes. 31 00:01:26,544 --> 00:01:30,673 We had several conversations about what I thought was going on, 32 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:34,469 and she believes that everything he's doing is really to benefit others. 33 00:01:34,552 --> 00:01:36,054 [intriguing music plays] 34 00:01:36,137 --> 00:01:40,475 Cecilie, maybe if you could speak to her, then maybe you could make a difference. 35 00:01:41,226 --> 00:01:42,811 Yeah. I'll do my best. 36 00:01:46,022 --> 00:01:48,399 [suspenseful music plays] 37 00:02:02,831 --> 00:02:05,667 I am on my way to Kitt's house. 38 00:02:06,376 --> 00:02:09,504 I've written Kitt just a short letter. 39 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:13,591 I have put that I'm a victim of romance fraud, 40 00:02:13,675 --> 00:02:16,344 and I believe that she's the victim of the same crime. 41 00:02:16,928 --> 00:02:19,097 If she wants to reach out, she can do that. 42 00:02:21,558 --> 00:02:23,143 I want to help her, 43 00:02:23,643 --> 00:02:29,065 but also if we can prove that a crime is actively taking place, 44 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:32,402 the police are just far more likely to prioritize Jill's case. 45 00:02:44,205 --> 00:02:46,207 [suspenseful music continues] 46 00:02:48,877 --> 00:02:50,170 [doorbell chimes] 47 00:02:53,965 --> 00:02:56,801 [Cecilie] I looked inside, and it's just totally black. 48 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:05,268 [foreboding music plays] 49 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,648 [Cecilie] It's a long shot. She might be in too deep. 50 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:14,402 When you're in the middle of this, like, 51 00:03:14,485 --> 00:03:16,779 you don't want to believe that you're being scammed. 52 00:03:16,863 --> 00:03:18,781 You don't trust your own instincts anymore, 53 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:22,243 so you rely on your abuser because that's what feels safe. 54 00:03:23,953 --> 00:03:28,166 But you know deep down something is wrong. 55 00:03:28,666 --> 00:03:30,376 You can… You can feel it. 56 00:03:31,836 --> 00:03:35,465 In the end, you have to deal with the truth. 57 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:37,383 You have to confront your nightmare. 58 00:03:38,468 --> 00:03:40,470 [music fades] 59 00:03:42,263 --> 00:03:44,015 [quirky music plays] 60 00:03:49,354 --> 00:03:50,230 [chimes] 61 00:03:55,818 --> 00:04:00,490 [Brianne] Hey, Cecilie. Okay, so I've been talking to a woman called Terra, 62 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:05,495 who Todd approached, apparently, about remortgaging Sanjara. 63 00:04:07,121 --> 00:04:09,332 She has this secret recording of Todd. 64 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:11,584 Now, I don't know what's on it, 65 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:16,089 but hopefully she'll have some information that would be valuable to us. 66 00:04:17,006 --> 00:04:18,675 I need you to go and talk to her. 67 00:04:25,348 --> 00:04:27,350 [music fades] 68 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:31,020 Hi. Is it Terra? 69 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:33,106 -Yes. Hi Cecilie. -Yeah, hi. Cecilie. Hi. 70 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:36,609 -Very nice to meet you. -Thank you for meeting up with me. 71 00:04:36,693 --> 00:04:41,364 I believe that you might have, um, some information about Todd Dean. 72 00:04:41,447 --> 00:04:42,282 Yes. 73 00:04:42,365 --> 00:04:44,909 At the time, I was in the banking industry, 74 00:04:44,993 --> 00:04:49,706 and he came to us looking to refinance his property. 75 00:04:49,789 --> 00:04:51,165 And this is Sanjara? 76 00:04:51,249 --> 00:04:52,667 -This is Sanjara Wellness. -Yeah. 77 00:04:53,251 --> 00:04:56,713 -And there was just a lot of delays. -Yeah. 78 00:04:56,796 --> 00:05:03,052 He would send endless, endless text messages and selfies. 79 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:06,848 I've never had another customer ever send me a selfie. 80 00:05:07,515 --> 00:05:10,476 And so we scheduled a time to actually meet with him, 81 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:16,524 and I thought we were about to start talking facts, the figures, the numbers. 82 00:05:16,607 --> 00:05:21,154 And he said, "Hey, Terra, would it matter, uh, in getting the refi 83 00:05:21,237 --> 00:05:23,948 if, um, somebody's filing a suit against me?" 84 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:29,370 And he just starts talking about all these women and the… 85 00:05:29,454 --> 00:05:32,707 the "Todd-hater group" and all these things that he's done. 86 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:37,420 I'm literally just sitting there in absolute disbelief. 87 00:05:37,503 --> 00:05:38,338 Yeah. 88 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:41,007 And so, while he's getting a drink of water, 89 00:05:41,090 --> 00:05:45,803 I just reached in to grab my phone, and I have a recording. 90 00:05:48,931 --> 00:05:51,100 [Terra] Oh no, I already poured mine in here. 91 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:52,602 Yeah, I poured mine in here. 92 00:05:54,437 --> 00:05:57,440 So let me see if I can remember names. 93 00:05:57,523 --> 00:05:59,400 [intriguing music plays] 94 00:05:59,484 --> 00:06:00,526 [Todd] So. 95 00:06:01,069 --> 00:06:05,114 So I'll give you the short story. I met a gal by the name of Karen Alpert. 96 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:09,452 Karen is… is just… Karen is just mentally deranged. 97 00:06:09,535 --> 00:06:13,373 [Todd inhales] And then Sheena, who was working for me as my assistant, 98 00:06:13,456 --> 00:06:15,958 wanted things to go her way, and I said, "I'm the CEO." 99 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:18,795 "We've gotta do things this way." She didn't like that. 100 00:06:19,295 --> 00:06:22,006 And Jill and I went on a couple dates, had sex. 101 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:25,176 So I'm struggling to pay bills every month, you know. 102 00:06:25,259 --> 00:06:26,886 If I need $25, she sent me $25. 103 00:06:26,969 --> 00:06:29,305 She needed $100, I'd send her $100 if I had it. 104 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:32,975 So Jill said she gave me $25,000. She never gave me $25,000. 105 00:06:33,476 --> 00:06:35,603 -Everything added up… -[Terra] That's a lot of money. 106 00:06:35,686 --> 00:06:36,521 [Todd] Hold on. 107 00:06:36,604 --> 00:06:39,732 They're portraying me like Todd's this douchebag who's skint. 108 00:06:39,816 --> 00:06:42,402 It's not true. It's so far from the truth. 109 00:06:43,986 --> 00:06:45,029 Tinder Swindler. 110 00:06:45,613 --> 00:06:47,532 -You ever seen that show? -[Terra] Yeah, Netflix. 111 00:06:47,615 --> 00:06:50,451 [Todd] I watch the movie, and I go, "God, I can relate to this shit." 112 00:06:50,535 --> 00:06:53,871 [Terra] But if I recall correctly, the Tinder Swindler, 113 00:06:53,955 --> 00:06:56,666 these guys duped them out of a lot of money. 114 00:06:57,166 --> 00:06:59,836 [Todd] Because, well, I'm the… I'm the opposite. 115 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:02,839 Okay, so I'm not the swindler. 116 00:07:02,922 --> 00:07:07,427 I'm just a guy doing the best I can. I've been supported by wonderful people. 117 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:09,095 I pay the bills every month. 118 00:07:09,178 --> 00:07:14,767 Somehow, someway, I have been so blessed with so many friends that have stepped up. 119 00:07:14,851 --> 00:07:18,438 -[Terra] Mm-hmm. -[Todd] I'm talking $10,000 every month. 120 00:07:19,397 --> 00:07:21,816 -[Terra] These friends give you $10,000? -[Todd] Every month. 121 00:07:22,316 --> 00:07:27,238 There's no swindling. There's ze-- There's been zero swindling. 122 00:07:28,072 --> 00:07:32,535 And to hear that he said that he's blessed, it makes me sick. 123 00:07:32,618 --> 00:07:34,829 He admits that for years, 124 00:07:34,912 --> 00:07:41,127 he's been receiving tens of thousands of dollars a month from these "friends." 125 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:46,591 It felt really horrible for these women that have been so impacted. 126 00:07:46,674 --> 00:07:48,176 Mm. Yeah. 127 00:07:48,259 --> 00:07:50,178 It was very eye-opening. Very eye-opening. 128 00:07:50,261 --> 00:07:52,972 Yeah. Thank you so much for meeting up with me, 129 00:07:53,055 --> 00:07:56,559 and I think this will make a real impact. 130 00:07:57,059 --> 00:07:59,061 [tense music plays] 131 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:00,730 [phone dialing] 132 00:08:00,813 --> 00:08:02,899 [Cecilie] Bri, you won't believe this. 133 00:08:02,982 --> 00:08:05,526 Todd admits getting money from multiple women, 134 00:08:05,610 --> 00:08:07,820 and he has no shame about it. 135 00:08:07,904 --> 00:08:10,364 Do you think this will help Jill's case? 136 00:08:10,448 --> 00:08:14,994 [Brianne] Look, I absolutely think it's gonna help the police investigation. 137 00:08:15,077 --> 00:08:16,579 It's time to expose Todd 138 00:08:16,662 --> 00:08:21,417 and make sure he can't use Sanjara as a tool to scam people any longer. 139 00:08:24,295 --> 00:08:28,216 If you look at the second page, it was a specific bank statement. 140 00:08:28,299 --> 00:08:30,885 -You have $50,000 here. -Do you see the large deposits? 141 00:08:30,968 --> 00:08:32,678 -Yeah, those are important. -Yeah, 50. 142 00:08:32,762 --> 00:08:34,597 We have the statements from these women. 143 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:38,726 We can show that he's been doing this for, you know, how many years? 144 00:08:39,602 --> 00:08:43,231 Our job is to say, "Look, she's not a woman scorned." 145 00:08:43,314 --> 00:08:48,027 "She's not the first. We found others. Listen to all of them." 146 00:08:48,778 --> 00:08:50,196 [Cecilie] The checking account. 147 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:52,073 [music intensifies] 148 00:08:53,991 --> 00:08:54,867 [inaudible] 149 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,664 Do you feel that we have enough? 150 00:08:59,747 --> 00:09:02,041 Yeah, I think we do have enough to move forward. 151 00:09:02,124 --> 00:09:04,043 -Wanna get out the sun? -Yes. 152 00:09:04,126 --> 00:09:05,127 'Cause… 153 00:09:06,254 --> 00:09:09,966 If we do this right, the perpetrators could face jail time, 154 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:14,220 and they could be required to pay the victims back the money they're owed. 155 00:09:18,349 --> 00:09:19,850 [music fades] 156 00:09:20,726 --> 00:09:23,396 -[Brianne] How are you feeling, Jill? -[Jill] I feel good. 157 00:09:23,479 --> 00:09:24,814 [Brianne] Okay. Glad to hear that. 158 00:09:24,897 --> 00:09:28,943 I'm excited to hear what, um, what you all have discovered. 159 00:09:29,026 --> 00:09:32,154 Yeah, yeah. Well, we think we're ready. 160 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:35,908 Let's see if we can move forward with potentially prosecuting this guy. 161 00:09:37,118 --> 00:09:39,870 We have statements from multiple women 162 00:09:39,954 --> 00:09:45,001 who are willing to talk about, um, the pattern of behavior that he has. 163 00:09:46,502 --> 00:09:50,339 So we have Karen, $46,000. 164 00:09:51,340 --> 00:09:53,634 Bridget, $12,000. 165 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:56,804 Kristi, $8,000. 166 00:09:58,180 --> 00:10:00,808 Theresa, $2,500. 167 00:10:00,891 --> 00:10:01,767 [Jill] Wow. 168 00:10:02,643 --> 00:10:03,728 [Brianne] It's not just you. 169 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:05,688 And this is significant 170 00:10:05,771 --> 00:10:09,025 because it's gonna show the police that she's not alone. 171 00:10:09,108 --> 00:10:10,901 This is a serial scammer. 172 00:10:10,985 --> 00:10:15,531 Also, and what I think is kind of the smoking gun a little bit with this. 173 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:19,452 We have tangible evidence that clearly shows 174 00:10:19,535 --> 00:10:21,996 the investor's deposits being deposited 175 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:25,458 and transactions that show he's moving them to his personal account. 176 00:10:27,335 --> 00:10:30,796 So do you feel ready now to go and talk to the police? 177 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,256 I do. I'm a bit anxious, 178 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:35,551 but with your all's help, I feel good about it. 179 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:37,637 [suspenseful music plays] 180 00:10:42,558 --> 00:10:44,935 [Jill] The last time that I reached out to the police, 181 00:10:45,603 --> 00:10:48,731 they said that, no, there was nothing they could do, 182 00:10:48,814 --> 00:10:50,107 that it was a civil matter. 183 00:10:50,691 --> 00:10:52,610 I was shocked. I was hurt. 184 00:10:53,194 --> 00:10:54,570 I was humiliated. 185 00:10:55,154 --> 00:10:57,531 I'm a little nervous because 186 00:10:57,615 --> 00:11:00,242 I still have the feeling of, 187 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:04,288 "Are they gonna look at me like the scorned woman?" 188 00:11:04,372 --> 00:11:06,749 [Brianne] We can change that perspective. 189 00:11:06,832 --> 00:11:09,460 Be okay with the worst-case scenario, and then you'll be fine. 190 00:11:09,543 --> 00:11:11,545 -Yeah. Thank you. -[Brianne] Do you know what I mean? 191 00:11:11,629 --> 00:11:12,880 So don't let them do that. 192 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:18,844 [Cecilie] What has struck me the most is how difficult it is to get justice. 193 00:11:19,887 --> 00:11:23,015 The police don't know enough about the crime. 194 00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:25,726 They don't know which laws are applicable. 195 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:31,148 And they don't have enough resources to actually go and prosecute the cases. 196 00:11:31,232 --> 00:11:34,110 So, all too often, they just turn people away. 197 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:37,154 [Brianne] Y'all ready? 198 00:11:39,573 --> 00:11:41,575 -Where's our paperwork? -[Cecilie] Here. 199 00:11:41,659 --> 00:11:42,827 [Brianne] Is that everything? 200 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:48,082 [Cecilie] Everything depends on if they will take you seriously. 201 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:53,921 [Jill] I'd like to report a fraud. 202 00:11:54,755 --> 00:11:56,257 I'm not the only victim. 203 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:59,385 [Brianne] We have a ton of evidence to support what she's saying. 204 00:11:59,468 --> 00:12:02,388 -[officer] Let me call my sergeant. -[Jill] Okay. 205 00:12:02,471 --> 00:12:04,682 [officer] Figure out what we're gonna do on our side. 206 00:12:04,765 --> 00:12:07,143 -[Jill] Okay. -[officer 2] Are you gonna wait inside? 207 00:12:07,226 --> 00:12:11,063 -Or would you like to wait outside? -[Jill] We'll wait outside in the vehicle. 208 00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:12,940 [Brianne] So we just have to wait. 209 00:12:13,023 --> 00:12:15,526 Could be five minutes, could be five hours. 210 00:12:15,609 --> 00:12:17,611 [tense music plays] 211 00:12:24,201 --> 00:12:28,038 [Jill] My nerves are coming back now that we're sitting here waiting. 212 00:12:28,122 --> 00:12:29,832 [Cecilie] We need to be confident. 213 00:12:38,007 --> 00:12:39,759 -[Jill] Someone's pulling up. -[Cecilie] I saw someone. 214 00:12:39,842 --> 00:12:42,219 -[Brianne] Yes, he's coming out. Come on. -Okay. 215 00:12:43,095 --> 00:12:44,388 -[Cecilie] Hi. -[officer 3] Jill? 216 00:12:44,472 --> 00:12:46,223 [Cecilie] I'm not Jill. Jill is coming out, 217 00:12:46,307 --> 00:12:48,642 so say hi to her. [chuckles] 218 00:12:48,726 --> 00:12:50,352 We're just here to support. 219 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:53,606 -Are you Jill? -[Jill] I am. Are you Officer Davis? 220 00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:55,775 -I am. It's nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 221 00:12:57,401 --> 00:13:00,029 [Davis] I was looking at the total you had. 222 00:13:01,405 --> 00:13:03,741 That alone is breaching into felony territory. 223 00:13:03,824 --> 00:13:06,702 It's gone past a civil matter into a criminal matter. 224 00:13:07,453 --> 00:13:10,998 There's a likelihood it could be taken out of our hands and into federal hands. 225 00:13:13,167 --> 00:13:15,169 What we're gonna have to do is… 226 00:13:15,252 --> 00:13:19,298 [sighs] This is basically gonna go in as a domestic fraud just on your side. 227 00:13:19,381 --> 00:13:20,216 Right. 228 00:13:20,299 --> 00:13:22,718 [Davis] We'll document your side. A detective will get assigned. 229 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:23,886 I'm gonna give you a card. 230 00:13:23,969 --> 00:13:26,514 -That'll be your report number. -[Jill] Okay. 231 00:13:28,432 --> 00:13:30,768 Within a couple of days, expect a call from a detective. 232 00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:32,895 Okay. Awesome. Thank you so much. 233 00:13:34,396 --> 00:13:36,357 -[Cecilie] You never give up -[Jill] Thank you. No. 234 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,528 Thank you for supporting me and helping and being here. 235 00:13:40,611 --> 00:13:43,072 [Cecilie squeals] Oh God. God. 236 00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:45,658 -[sobs] -[Brianne] We love you, Jill. 237 00:13:45,741 --> 00:13:47,368 [soft music plays] 238 00:13:56,001 --> 00:13:58,337 [male newsreader] Women call him the selfie scammer. 239 00:13:58,420 --> 00:13:59,630 [uplifting music plays] 240 00:13:59,713 --> 00:14:03,342 They say he love-bombed them, sending selfies of himself, 241 00:14:03,425 --> 00:14:06,053 all while he was asking them for money. 242 00:14:06,136 --> 00:14:09,139 [Jill] Seeing the news clips of Todd going to court 243 00:14:09,223 --> 00:14:11,600 and publicly being outed as a fraudster 244 00:14:11,684 --> 00:14:14,895 does feel like justice is finally being served. 245 00:14:21,944 --> 00:14:24,738 Going public on television has been empowering. 246 00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:28,284 You know, it's getting easier and easier every day, 247 00:14:28,367 --> 00:14:31,745 I think because of the amount of women that I feel like we have saved. 248 00:14:32,663 --> 00:14:35,833 With the help and support of Cecilie and Brianne, 249 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:39,086 it feels like we're taking him down. 250 00:14:44,592 --> 00:14:48,137 [Cecilie] Getting justice through the police can be a long process. 251 00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:49,930 And it's not guaranteed. 252 00:14:50,556 --> 00:14:51,932 Cheers to teamwork. 253 00:14:52,016 --> 00:14:53,017 -Yeah. -Yes. 254 00:14:58,022 --> 00:15:00,691 [Brianne] He has gone on for so long unchecked. 255 00:15:00,774 --> 00:15:02,651 -Yep. Yeah. -[Brianne] Until now. 256 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:05,529 You're gonna help so many women by doing this. 257 00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:06,906 I hope so. I hope so. 258 00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:10,409 [Cecilie] What's been a success in this case 259 00:15:10,492 --> 00:15:14,496 is that Todd will no longer be able to use Sanjara to scam people. 260 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:17,917 And Jill has exposed him, stopping him in his tracks. 261 00:15:22,463 --> 00:15:24,465 [music fades] 262 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:28,093 [foreboding music plays] 263 00:15:38,979 --> 00:15:41,982 [Bridget] Hi, Cecilie. My name is Bridget Phillips. 264 00:15:42,066 --> 00:15:45,903 I've been dating this guy, Ricky Morrisey, for the past two years. 265 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:52,201 -[Bridget] Ain't nobody afraid of you. -[chuckles] 266 00:15:54,578 --> 00:15:56,664 [Bridget] When I met Ricky, I fell for him immediately. 267 00:15:58,749 --> 00:16:01,210 He was in the military for ten years. 268 00:16:01,293 --> 00:16:05,381 But war had scarred him, and he had a vulnerability. 269 00:16:05,464 --> 00:16:08,384 -Hey, Zeusie. -[Bridget] So, like, I wanted to help him. 270 00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:11,303 I had no idea that he was gonna try to steal everything that I had. 271 00:16:11,387 --> 00:16:14,807 -Bridget, let me in, please. -[Bridget] No, what are you talking about? 272 00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:16,183 You robbed me! 273 00:16:16,266 --> 00:16:17,768 So I called the police. 274 00:16:18,268 --> 00:16:21,021 But now he's run off, and I don't know where he is. 275 00:16:21,855 --> 00:16:23,232 I really need your help. 276 00:16:23,315 --> 00:16:24,692 [music ends] 277 00:16:28,445 --> 00:16:30,489 [funky music plays] 278 00:16:30,572 --> 00:16:33,200 When I met Ricky, I had just been divorced. 279 00:16:33,283 --> 00:16:37,997 I had been single for two years, and I was ready to start dating again. 280 00:16:39,581 --> 00:16:41,125 We met on Facebook Dating. 281 00:16:41,208 --> 00:16:42,876 I was in my early 30s, 282 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,213 and I just wanted somebody that was genuine, loyal. 283 00:16:46,714 --> 00:16:50,134 Like, I wanted that person to, you know, grow old with. 284 00:16:51,343 --> 00:16:53,762 His dating profile had that he was in the military. 285 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:56,473 And the picture with him and his dog, Zeus. 286 00:16:56,557 --> 00:16:58,976 So, I thought he was a really attractive guy. 287 00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:02,438 And we had a connection where we both loved dogs. 288 00:17:03,439 --> 00:17:05,232 He said he wanted a long-term relationship. 289 00:17:05,315 --> 00:17:07,985 He wasn't looking for, like, a quick fling. 290 00:17:09,236 --> 00:17:11,530 He came off very normal. 291 00:17:12,364 --> 00:17:14,616 Which, in retrospect, he wasn't. 292 00:17:15,868 --> 00:17:17,161 [curious music plays] 293 00:17:17,244 --> 00:17:20,581 [Bridget] We chatted for a little bit, sending messages back and forth. 294 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:23,542 And then, I was at work, 295 00:17:23,625 --> 00:17:26,045 and he was like, "Oh, you wanna go out to dinner tonight?" 296 00:17:27,004 --> 00:17:29,506 I was like, "You know what? Sure, let's go out to dinner." 297 00:17:30,424 --> 00:17:32,342 I drove an hour to go see him. 298 00:17:33,552 --> 00:17:35,012 He was super attractive. 299 00:17:35,095 --> 00:17:37,014 He wore, like, a nice collared shirt. 300 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:43,020 He took me to a Brazilian steakhouse. I had never been to one before. 301 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:47,483 I was nervous, and he made me feel comfortable. 302 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:50,736 He recommended, like, what wine we drank at first. 303 00:17:50,819 --> 00:17:52,196 He took charge. 304 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:53,405 It was nice. 305 00:17:53,489 --> 00:17:57,076 It was nice to not have to make those decisions because I'm very indecisive. 306 00:17:57,659 --> 00:18:01,455 Right after the first restaurant, we were walking outside, and he kissed me. 307 00:18:02,664 --> 00:18:04,333 Like, just stopped in the parking lot. 308 00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:07,419 But we had a lot of fun. We went to a couple of different bars. 309 00:18:07,503 --> 00:18:11,882 And by, like, the second bar, third bar, we were deleting the apps. 310 00:18:13,425 --> 00:18:18,097 I think it was, like, a mutual suggestion 'cause we were a few drinks in. 311 00:18:18,597 --> 00:18:19,473 [laughs quietly] 312 00:18:19,556 --> 00:18:22,309 It felt, like, I don't need to date anymore. 313 00:18:22,392 --> 00:18:24,269 Like, this is feeling good. 314 00:18:24,353 --> 00:18:27,147 He was, like, the perfect man. 315 00:18:32,736 --> 00:18:33,570 [Cecilie] Hi. 316 00:18:34,154 --> 00:18:36,073 -Is it Bridget? Hi, Cecilie. -Hi. 317 00:18:36,156 --> 00:18:38,534 -Nice to meet you. Yes, -Can I give you a hug? 318 00:18:38,617 --> 00:18:41,537 -[Bridget] This is Ricky's dog. -[Cecilie] Oh wow. 319 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:44,039 So, Ricky had him. It was his military dog, actually. 320 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:47,751 -He was in the army with Zeus. -[Cecilie] He's gorgeous. 321 00:18:48,669 --> 00:18:50,546 I'm so grateful that you reached out. 322 00:18:51,046 --> 00:18:54,216 So, yeah, tell me, like, what happened? 323 00:18:54,883 --> 00:18:58,220 [Bridget] It felt like we clicked right away. Like, it was instant. 324 00:18:58,303 --> 00:19:00,222 He was charming. 325 00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:01,807 -[Cecilie] Yeah. -He was very charming. 326 00:19:02,724 --> 00:19:05,811 I've never dated anyone from the m-- in the military before, 327 00:19:05,894 --> 00:19:08,605 and I felt like I trusted him. 328 00:19:08,689 --> 00:19:12,526 He just… He gave off that vibe of, like, you can trust me. 329 00:19:12,609 --> 00:19:14,903 [romantic music plays] 330 00:19:16,864 --> 00:19:20,242 [Bridget] It definitely moved fast after the first date. 331 00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:24,663 The very next day, he sent me a text, like, in the morning. 332 00:19:25,205 --> 00:19:28,333 He was saying, "I never connected with somebody like I am right now" 333 00:19:28,417 --> 00:19:31,211 and "I've never had these types of feelings before and…" 334 00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:35,382 And then on that third date, he was, like, "I love you." 335 00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:42,139 I didn't say it back, because I didn't… I didn't want to yet. 336 00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:43,473 But I was f-- I was feeling it. 337 00:19:45,517 --> 00:19:46,560 [gentle music plays] 338 00:19:46,643 --> 00:19:48,020 [Ricky] Easy. 339 00:19:48,103 --> 00:19:49,146 She's drooling. 340 00:19:49,897 --> 00:19:51,023 [Bridget] She's nervous. 341 00:19:51,773 --> 00:19:55,319 He was in the army for, like, ten years, then he had gotten out. 342 00:19:55,402 --> 00:19:56,486 Easy. 343 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:58,780 [Bridget] He was a military dog handler. 344 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:01,575 And Zeus served overseas with him, 345 00:20:01,658 --> 00:20:04,578 and they had gone on multiple tours together. 346 00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:07,122 He had PTSD. 347 00:20:07,623 --> 00:20:10,959 He said he did have his struggles, but he was working on them. 348 00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:16,965 I felt really bad for him, and I wanted to support him 349 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:19,968 in any way that I could to make him feel better. 350 00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:21,970 [dog barking] 351 00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:24,306 [Bridget] We were dating three months when he moved in. 352 00:20:24,389 --> 00:20:26,642 -[dog barking] -[Ricky] Go. Go play. 353 00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:30,020 [Bridget] He was looking to rent, and then he was, like, it's expensive, 354 00:20:30,103 --> 00:20:33,941 and so he suggested that he move in with me. 355 00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:35,275 [dog barking] 356 00:20:35,817 --> 00:20:39,029 It definitely felt like a-- a step forward in the relationship. 357 00:20:40,197 --> 00:20:41,281 [laughs] 358 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,784 [Ricky] Are you videoing? 359 00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:46,703 It was, like, perfect couple-type relationship. 360 00:20:46,787 --> 00:20:47,663 Like… 361 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:50,791 His parents had drug problems. 362 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:53,502 I had family that had drug issues. 363 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:58,548 And we kind of bonded over the fact that we both kind of had broken family issues. 364 00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:04,429 [Cecilie] Scammers will often find ways to bond with their victims. 365 00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:07,724 And this is usually over difficult life experiences. 366 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:12,437 For a victim, it will feel like, "Wow, they really get me." 367 00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:13,939 But it is strategic. 368 00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:19,111 [Bridget] I felt like he understood me, and I understood him. 369 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:22,614 He was struggling to find a job 370 00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:25,701 because of what he's been through and his PTSD. 371 00:21:26,201 --> 00:21:28,620 So at the time, like, I was the one paying for everything. 372 00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:31,873 But he would help me out around the house, 373 00:21:31,957 --> 00:21:33,917 like taking care of the dogs, 374 00:21:34,001 --> 00:21:38,422 or he'd, like, mow the lawn, and he always cooked. 375 00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:40,632 He would try different recipes. 376 00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:44,803 And we'd get, like, little separate plates for the dogs, 377 00:21:44,886 --> 00:21:47,055 and the dogs would have a little snack with us. 378 00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:50,183 It was definitely what I was looking for. 379 00:21:50,892 --> 00:21:55,439 He knew how to make me feel like I was the only person in the world. 380 00:21:55,939 --> 00:21:58,108 It felt like we were gonna be together forever. 381 00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:00,235 [music fades] 382 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,363 But then one day, we had a couple drinks, 383 00:22:03,447 --> 00:22:08,327 and we're sharing, you know, life stories, and he started crying. 384 00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:10,787 -[Cecilie] Did he? -He, like, tears… 385 00:22:10,871 --> 00:22:13,165 And he was, like, "I wanna explain." 386 00:22:14,082 --> 00:22:17,210 So his best friend died saving his life. 387 00:22:17,294 --> 00:22:19,504 They were, like, clearing a building, 388 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:23,091 and his friend Clarence took bullets for him 389 00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:26,386 and ended up passing away. 390 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:28,347 [somber music plays] 391 00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:32,392 [Bridget] He told me that him and Clarence grew up together, 392 00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:34,478 had been best friends forever. 393 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,314 He would tell me how guilty he felt. 394 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,817 It was his fault that Clarence had passed away. 395 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:47,407 His tattoo on his arm, he used it as, like, a memorial. 396 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:51,328 It stands for rest in peace, Clarence Williams III. 397 00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:54,373 I was shocked. 398 00:22:54,456 --> 00:22:56,750 It's insane to go through something like that. 399 00:22:57,626 --> 00:23:01,630 So I felt like I could, like, definitely help him in a way. 400 00:23:07,135 --> 00:23:11,890 He said, you know, because Clarence saved his life in war, 401 00:23:11,973 --> 00:23:16,353 that he felt compelled to give Clarence's wife and children money 402 00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:19,189 because he doesn't have that income anymore. 403 00:23:19,272 --> 00:23:23,402 He emphasized that he always does this because of his guilt 404 00:23:23,485 --> 00:23:25,946 that Clarence died and he didn't. 405 00:23:26,029 --> 00:23:29,199 He struggled to keep a job since the military, 406 00:23:29,282 --> 00:23:33,078 so he would ask for money to give to Clarence's family. 407 00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:34,704 I didn't wanna say no. 408 00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:39,167 "I understand that this is, like, a traumatic event you went through, and… 409 00:23:39,876 --> 00:23:41,336 this is a man that saved your life." 410 00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:44,256 I was like, "Well, let's figure it out." 411 00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:46,716 [Cecilie] So, if you think back, 412 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,680 like, how much do you think that you, you know, spent then on Clarence's family? 413 00:23:51,763 --> 00:23:52,848 [Bridget] Altogether… 414 00:23:55,892 --> 00:23:58,812 probably had to go up to, like, 10,000-ish. 415 00:23:58,895 --> 00:24:00,522 -It could be, like… -Wow. Yeah. 416 00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:02,858 Between the whole two years we were together. 417 00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:06,027 [Cecilie] How did the relationship end? 418 00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:10,115 I was checking my bank statements, and when I was going through it, 419 00:24:10,198 --> 00:24:13,160 I saw all these ATM transactions and money missing. 420 00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:15,912 [intriguing music plays] 421 00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:18,206 [Bridget] We had been together about 18 months. 422 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,501 I'm paying for everything. I was losing a lot of money. 423 00:24:21,585 --> 00:24:23,795 I was getting into, like, a lot of debt. 424 00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:27,549 Subconsciously, like, I was like, something… something doesn't add up. 425 00:24:28,383 --> 00:24:31,303 I started just questioning everything. 426 00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:35,182 And then one day, I was at home, I was working. 427 00:24:35,265 --> 00:24:38,852 And I looked at my account, and I just saw 428 00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:42,772 tons of ATM withdrawals, $500 at a time. 429 00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,274 And I was like, "Oh my God." 430 00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:46,651 [chimes] 431 00:24:47,402 --> 00:24:50,864 Then I'm texting Ricky, and he's like, "How do you think it happened?" 432 00:24:51,781 --> 00:24:53,492 Like, "How much is gone?" 433 00:24:55,535 --> 00:24:59,122 It was over $13,000 that was missing from the account, 434 00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:01,166 and he's telling me he didn't do it. 435 00:25:03,376 --> 00:25:06,838 But deep down, I knew it was him. I knew he was taking the money out. 436 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,382 I didn't have any, like, solid proof. 437 00:25:10,717 --> 00:25:14,763 I confronted him. He was at my house. I was like, "You stole from me." 438 00:25:14,846 --> 00:25:17,390 [Bridget] You need to leave or turn yourself in to the police. 439 00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:18,683 This is insane. 440 00:25:18,767 --> 00:25:21,561 -Bridget, let me in. Please. -[Bridget] No. No. 441 00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,189 [Ricky] For God's sake. I'm begging you. 442 00:25:24,981 --> 00:25:27,692 That's why you're ignoring me. You don't fucking care. 443 00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:31,029 [Bridget] I don't care. What are you talking about? You robbed me! 444 00:25:31,112 --> 00:25:32,989 [Ricky sobbing] Jesus. 445 00:25:36,451 --> 00:25:37,452 Please. 446 00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:39,371 God. 447 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,958 [Bridget] You literally stole from me. 448 00:25:43,583 --> 00:25:45,001 [melancholy music plays] 449 00:25:45,085 --> 00:25:46,795 Fuck, like, you stole everything! 450 00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,009 [Bridget] He just… He took off running. 451 00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:58,557 And it was freezing out, and it was, like, raining out. 452 00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:02,060 I was, like, in a state of shock. 453 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:04,563 [bawling] 454 00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:10,235 [Bridget] I never imagined that he was capable of doing this to me. 455 00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:16,074 [Cecilie] He ran off. 456 00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:17,450 He left. 457 00:26:17,534 --> 00:26:20,870 -That's why you're not in contact anymore. -Yeah. 458 00:26:21,621 --> 00:26:26,543 Right now, I'm $50,000 in debt, and now I'm questioning everything. 459 00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:28,712 [gentle music plays] 460 00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:29,838 [Bridget] Come here, Zeus. 461 00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:35,510 I was devastated. 462 00:26:37,012 --> 00:26:38,722 My whole world just blew up on me. 463 00:26:41,808 --> 00:26:44,686 I mean, there was definitely times where I was just ready to give up, 464 00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:46,354 where I couldn't get out of debt. 465 00:26:51,901 --> 00:26:52,736 [sniffles] 466 00:26:55,196 --> 00:26:57,574 I definitely thought about, like, ending things. 467 00:26:59,909 --> 00:27:00,744 [sniffles] 468 00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:07,334 [Bridget] I had no idea that he would destroy my life. 469 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:11,921 So we'll do everything in our power… 470 00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:14,591 -[Bridget] Thank you. -…you know, to help you, Bridget. 471 00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:26,519 -Hey, come on in. -Hi, Bri. Hi. 472 00:27:28,229 --> 00:27:31,441 So how much are we talking, like, about how much did he take from her? 473 00:27:31,524 --> 00:27:34,736 In the end, she said, like, $50,000. 474 00:27:35,236 --> 00:27:37,947 So much money had been taken out from the ATM, 475 00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:40,158 but she has no proof it was him. 476 00:27:41,701 --> 00:27:44,162 [Brianne] You need to speak to the banks about the withdrawals. 477 00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:45,080 [Cecilie] Yeah. 478 00:27:45,163 --> 00:27:48,833 [Brianne] They may have evidence that he stole directly from her ATM. 479 00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:53,088 We need to examine everything Ricky said to Bridget 480 00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:54,923 to get money out of her. 481 00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:57,926 Because if we can expose all of those things as lies, 482 00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,386 we're halfway there. 483 00:27:59,469 --> 00:28:01,554 [tense music plays] 484 00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:07,435 [Brianne] Can you start by looking through his social media profiles? 485 00:28:13,149 --> 00:28:15,151 [music fades] 486 00:28:15,235 --> 00:28:17,779 [Cecilie] He has a LinkedIn profile. 487 00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:21,157 It's a very short profile. It's not a lot. 488 00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,576 I found his Twitter too. 489 00:28:24,452 --> 00:28:26,371 But he hasn't tweeted anything. 490 00:28:26,454 --> 00:28:28,081 There's no workplaces, 491 00:28:28,164 --> 00:28:31,876 like, no schools, no relationship info. 492 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,922 And if you go more in-depth, there's still nothing here. 493 00:28:36,005 --> 00:28:37,716 [curious music plays] 494 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,260 [Cecilie] But a big part of his personality, 495 00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:42,929 a big part of Ricky, is his military career. 496 00:28:43,012 --> 00:28:47,016 And it might have some information there that I can go after 497 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,352 and see if I can do more of a deep dive. 498 00:28:52,939 --> 00:28:54,858 It looks like there's something here. 499 00:28:56,067 --> 00:28:58,403 I found the Facebook page of his infantry. 500 00:28:58,486 --> 00:29:00,697 And they have pictures, actually, 501 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:06,161 all the way back to when Ricky was supposed to be in the army. 502 00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:09,456 It's a long shot, but I'm just going through the pictures 503 00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:15,378 just seeing if any of these men resembles Ricky. 504 00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:18,923 That is him! 505 00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:21,634 This is great, 506 00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:24,804 because especially the people around him here, 507 00:29:25,388 --> 00:29:28,183 they would have spent time with Ricky. 508 00:29:29,684 --> 00:29:33,521 And it looks like, yeah, we would have some names here too. 509 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:35,607 [ominous music plays] 510 00:29:38,651 --> 00:29:39,486 [chimes] 511 00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:41,654 [chimes] 512 00:29:42,947 --> 00:29:43,782 [chimes] 513 00:29:49,662 --> 00:29:51,664 [music fades] 514 00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:54,584 -Hi, Tommy. -Oh, there we go. 515 00:29:56,085 --> 00:29:57,670 Here we are. [chuckles] 516 00:29:58,254 --> 00:29:59,130 Hi, Brad. 517 00:29:59,756 --> 00:30:01,925 -Hi. How are you? -[Cecilie] Hi. I'm good. 518 00:30:02,008 --> 00:30:03,760 I'm doing an investigation into Ricky. 519 00:30:03,843 --> 00:30:07,889 What were you doing in the service with Ricky? 520 00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:11,518 [Tommy] I was a combat medic deployed to Al-Asad, Iraq. 521 00:30:11,601 --> 00:30:13,770 [Brad] I served in the 3rd platoon. 522 00:30:13,853 --> 00:30:16,105 Ricky was in the same platoon. 523 00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:17,982 What was your impression of Ricky? 524 00:30:18,066 --> 00:30:20,151 Very athletic, good-looking guy. 525 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:21,861 Smooth talker. 526 00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:23,655 People gravitated to him. 527 00:30:24,155 --> 00:30:25,657 [Cecilie] Was he a good soldier? 528 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:28,243 [Brad] Ricky had all the potential to be a great soldier. 529 00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:33,164 He just squandered one opportunity, and then he squandered the second. 530 00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:35,208 He was always a party guy, you know. 531 00:30:35,291 --> 00:30:38,586 You said that he liked to party. What did you mean by that? 532 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:42,590 Going to clubs downtown, getting hammered in the barracks. 533 00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:45,176 I don't wanna say he was a womanizer, but, uh. 534 00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:47,220 He hit on anything that would give him attention. 535 00:30:47,303 --> 00:30:49,055 You know, I'll put it that way. 536 00:30:49,138 --> 00:30:52,684 He's been saying that he's had a military career of ten-plus years. 537 00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:54,644 Um, no, that's a lie. 538 00:30:54,727 --> 00:30:57,981 I'm gonna be completely blunt. That shit makes me angry. 539 00:30:58,064 --> 00:31:01,818 [Brad] He ended up getting kicked out for drugs after three years or so. 540 00:31:02,986 --> 00:31:03,820 Yeah. 541 00:31:03,903 --> 00:31:04,904 Wow. 542 00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,741 That is a revelation that is really interesting to hear. 543 00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:09,993 -[Brad] Yeah. -Okay. 544 00:31:10,743 --> 00:31:13,830 And, like, do you remember him having a military working dog? 545 00:31:13,913 --> 00:31:15,915 No, I don't see why he would. 546 00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:17,417 Uh, that's a lie. 547 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:19,669 That is a lie. 548 00:31:19,752 --> 00:31:24,257 People that are in our infantry regiment, you wouldn't have a military working dog. 549 00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:28,303 I mean, I'm trying not to laugh because that is garbage. 550 00:31:30,388 --> 00:31:32,599 [curious music plays] 551 00:31:32,682 --> 00:31:36,060 [Cecilie] And do you remember a guy called Clarence Williams III? 552 00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:37,604 [Tommy] Yeah. 553 00:31:38,187 --> 00:31:39,314 He's from my hometown. 554 00:31:39,397 --> 00:31:43,151 Did you ever see Clarence and Ricky together, you know? 555 00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:44,903 -[Tommy] I don't know, uh… -Okay. 556 00:31:46,863 --> 00:31:48,907 Maybe, possibly, um, 557 00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:53,161 but I can't say for sure if he knew Clarence that way. 558 00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:58,249 Would you be able to put me in contact with anyone in Clarence's family? 559 00:31:58,791 --> 00:32:00,126 Let me see what I can do. 560 00:32:00,627 --> 00:32:04,047 Thank you for, you know, taking the time. Have a good day. 561 00:32:04,631 --> 00:32:06,132 -You too. -Okay, bye. 562 00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:07,967 -[Tommy] Bye. -Bye. 563 00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:10,053 [tense music plays] 564 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:14,974 [chimes] 565 00:32:17,727 --> 00:32:18,728 [chimes] 566 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:20,855 [chimes] 567 00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:24,525 [line ringing] 568 00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:26,027 [woman] Hello? 569 00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:28,529 Hi, Abrill. My name is Brianne Joseph. 570 00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:32,867 I'm investigating a guy who served in the military with your brother, 571 00:32:33,868 --> 00:32:35,995 and I would love an opportunity 572 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,373 to speak with you about some claims that he's made. 573 00:32:39,874 --> 00:32:42,210 [Abrill] Yes, ma'am. I-- I'm willing to meet. 574 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:44,921 [curious music plays] 575 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,341 [Bridget] A lot of our relationship revolved around Clarence. 576 00:32:48,841 --> 00:32:51,260 He would talk about Clarence all the time. 577 00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:54,430 Anytime it came up to be, um, 578 00:32:54,514 --> 00:32:59,227 like, Memorial Day, Clarence's birthday, he would get really emotional. 579 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:03,606 It was always like, you know, "I wanna help out his family." 580 00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:06,109 "I always gave Clarence's wife and kids money." 581 00:33:06,901 --> 00:33:10,863 You know, he's like, "If we wanna spend time together, I need you to help me out." 582 00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:15,493 "As, like, a team we need to do this, and, you know, I'll pay you back." 583 00:33:17,328 --> 00:33:18,579 I looked up everything. 584 00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:20,748 I would google, like, the story behind Clarence, 585 00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:25,294 and I could tell he was a real person and that he had died in battle. 586 00:33:30,675 --> 00:33:34,887 [Brianne] Ricky clearly has exaggerated a lot about his military experience, 587 00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:36,931 but that doesn't make him a criminal. 588 00:33:38,891 --> 00:33:43,855 We have to prove that he had an intention to, uh, defraud her. 589 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:48,985 -[Brianne] Hi. -Hi. 590 00:33:49,068 --> 00:33:51,487 I'm Brianne Joseph. We spoke over the phone. 591 00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:52,989 Oh yes. How are you? 592 00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:54,615 -[Brianne] I'm good. -My name's Abrill. 593 00:33:57,618 --> 00:34:01,914 This is the keepsake trunk that we received from Afghanistan. 594 00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:07,045 This is the uniform that he had left behind. 595 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:11,799 And this is the day we brought him 596 00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:16,345 to Tampa Air Force Base. 597 00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:17,472 [melancholy music plays] 598 00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:19,849 [Talisa] That's all of us standing out waiting 599 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,143 to welcome him back. 600 00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:33,112 [Brianne] So, how long did he serve? 601 00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:36,032 [Talisa] He was only in for two years. 602 00:34:36,115 --> 00:34:39,410 That was his first tour to go overseas. 603 00:34:39,494 --> 00:34:41,329 -To Afghanistan. -[Brianne] Okay. 604 00:34:41,412 --> 00:34:44,040 Was he in contact with you guys often? 605 00:34:44,123 --> 00:34:48,419 He and I talked a lot, um, sometimes two and three times a day. 606 00:34:48,503 --> 00:34:51,089 He told me from day one he was getting shot at 607 00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:52,965 and bombed at from day one. 608 00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:57,095 [Bridget] Ricky explained to me that 609 00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:58,971 they were going in and clearing a building. 610 00:35:00,264 --> 00:35:03,559 And that he went right, but he should have went left. 611 00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:06,646 And he made the mistake and the… 612 00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:09,732 like, the terrorists came and were shooting at them 613 00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:12,985 and that Clarence stepped in front of him and saved his life. 614 00:35:14,695 --> 00:35:16,489 He took several bullets for him. 615 00:35:18,699 --> 00:35:20,785 And then he died right in front of Ricky. 616 00:35:21,452 --> 00:35:25,373 So, you know, when he lost Clarence, it was devastating for him. 617 00:35:27,458 --> 00:35:29,460 [Brianne] So, if you don't mind me asking, 618 00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:32,713 what were the circumstances of him passing away? 619 00:35:33,673 --> 00:35:36,175 [Abrill] It was him and five other soldiers. 620 00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:39,428 -[Talisa] Got killed, one that survived. -[Abrill] One survived. 621 00:35:39,512 --> 00:35:42,682 In the vehicle that they were in. 622 00:35:43,432 --> 00:35:44,684 And, um… 623 00:35:45,226 --> 00:35:47,228 [gentle music plays] 624 00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:52,400 Clarence's vehicle was the one that did get hit. 625 00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:54,652 [Brianne] Mmm. I'm so sorry to hear that. 626 00:35:57,572 --> 00:35:59,532 The reason that I'm here 627 00:35:59,615 --> 00:36:02,702 is because I'm trying to get a little insight 628 00:36:02,785 --> 00:36:08,082 on one of Clarence's really close friends, Ricky Morrisey. 629 00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:11,502 He claimed that Clarence took a bullet for him. 630 00:36:13,462 --> 00:36:17,300 -No, ma'am. That's not… That's incorrect. -[Abrill] No. Clarence passed by… 631 00:36:17,383 --> 00:36:21,470 Passed away due to an IED, improvised explosive device. 632 00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:24,348 [tense music plays] 633 00:36:25,641 --> 00:36:27,310 He also claimed 634 00:36:27,393 --> 00:36:31,189 that he was sending money to Clarence's family. 635 00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:32,356 -No. -[Talisa] No. 636 00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:37,195 If I'm not mistaken, it was to Clarence's kids? 637 00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:39,739 -Clarence doesn't have any kids. -No kids at all. 638 00:36:43,659 --> 00:36:44,952 Do you know Ricky? 639 00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:49,665 You know, we… we've pretty much met all of Clarence's friends. 640 00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:53,252 The soldiers would call me Mama Williams. 641 00:36:53,336 --> 00:36:56,172 -That's the type of relationship we have. -[Brianne] Wow. 642 00:36:56,672 --> 00:36:59,842 And, um, I've never heard of a Ricky. 643 00:37:00,593 --> 00:37:02,595 [music fades] 644 00:37:05,139 --> 00:37:07,683 Anytime, like, we had a disagreement or argument, 645 00:37:07,767 --> 00:37:10,269 it was, "I swear on Clarence's life." 646 00:37:11,562 --> 00:37:15,733 Ricky was always crying and he was breaking down in front of me. 647 00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:17,443 It was awkward. 648 00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:21,781 But it felt genuine. 649 00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:24,367 It felt like he was sharing, like, a part of him. 650 00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:29,038 His tattoo on his arm takes up, like, the whole bottom part of his forearm. 651 00:37:29,997 --> 00:37:33,292 It was just so crazy for me to think that somebody could lie about 652 00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:36,087 a tattoo on your arm of somebody's name that you don't know. 653 00:37:40,132 --> 00:37:43,844 [Talisa] Clarence's name does not deserve this. 654 00:37:44,637 --> 00:37:48,266 I feel if he gets away with it, he's gonna continue to do it. 655 00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:50,017 [melancholy music plays] 656 00:37:54,647 --> 00:37:57,191 [Brianne] I hope you guys enjoy the rest of your day as well. 657 00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,110 -[Abrill] You too. -Thanks again for everything. 658 00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:00,236 [Talisa] Thank you. 659 00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:06,075 [line ringing] 660 00:38:10,204 --> 00:38:11,497 [sighs] 661 00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:13,874 -[Cecilie] Hi, Bri. -Hey, Cecilie. 662 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:16,085 -Ricky made it all up. -[Cecilie] Hold on. 663 00:38:16,585 --> 00:38:20,047 -[gasps] No, he didn't. -[Brianne] He lied. 664 00:38:20,131 --> 00:38:22,800 Clarence's family has never heard of him. 665 00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:27,179 It's all a scam. 666 00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:32,059 It was all intentional to deceive Bridget to get her money. 667 00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:35,855 I have to say, it's evil. He knows so well what he's doing too. 668 00:38:35,938 --> 00:38:38,566 You know, he's dragging an innocent family into this. 669 00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:40,651 [music fades] 670 00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:48,242 [birds chirping] 671 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:50,119 [somber music playing] 672 00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:54,832 [Cecilie] There are so many levels to Ricky's deceit. 673 00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:57,126 His military career, 674 00:38:57,626 --> 00:39:00,129 the army dog that never existed, 675 00:39:00,796 --> 00:39:02,923 the best friend who never saved him. 676 00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:08,095 But I still get surprised to see the lengths that fraudsters will go. 677 00:39:09,055 --> 00:39:11,724 And for them, nothing is off limits. 678 00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:18,522 [Bridget] Any time I would question something, 679 00:39:18,606 --> 00:39:20,358 he'd either get angry and be like, 680 00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:23,778 "How dare you ask me these types of questions?" 681 00:39:23,861 --> 00:39:27,656 Or he would turn it around so that I was, like, the bad person. 682 00:39:30,659 --> 00:39:34,038 One time, I had, like, a $10 random charge on my debit card. 683 00:39:34,121 --> 00:39:37,083 I think I had texted him during the day, like, "Hey, did you do this?" 684 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:41,462 And he was like, "No, I didn't do it." 685 00:39:43,422 --> 00:39:44,965 And then I got home from work, 686 00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:47,134 and, like, on the kitchen table was a suicide note. 687 00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:49,345 [suspenseful music plays] 688 00:39:49,428 --> 00:39:52,473 He had, like, set up this whole thing in the basement. 689 00:39:53,682 --> 00:39:55,184 And he had a gun to his head. 690 00:39:56,769 --> 00:39:58,479 He made sure I knew it was loaded. 691 00:39:59,522 --> 00:40:02,400 And he was crying, and he was, like, upset. 692 00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:06,112 And I was just trying to, like, get that gun out of his hand. 693 00:40:06,195 --> 00:40:08,864 I was terrified. I didn't know what he was gonna do. 694 00:40:10,991 --> 00:40:13,327 And he finally put it down. 695 00:40:15,162 --> 00:40:18,332 But he had been to war and I didn't want to traumatize him more. 696 00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:20,543 I… I didn't wanna push him over the edge. 697 00:40:21,335 --> 00:40:23,045 I was shocked, scared. 698 00:40:24,463 --> 00:40:26,632 I did not know what to do. 699 00:40:27,716 --> 00:40:30,803 I didn't know how to get away from him at that point in time. 700 00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:32,805 I felt like I was stuck. 701 00:40:37,977 --> 00:40:39,979 [curious music plays] 702 00:40:50,489 --> 00:40:52,700 [line ringing] 703 00:40:52,783 --> 00:40:54,827 -[Cecilie] Hello? -Cecilie. 704 00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:57,371 -[Cecilie] Hi. -You won't believe what I have. 705 00:40:58,205 --> 00:41:01,917 I have been sent some evidence from the bank's CCTV. 706 00:41:03,335 --> 00:41:04,462 This is Ricky… 707 00:41:07,131 --> 00:41:08,632 at their ATM machine… 708 00:41:11,677 --> 00:41:13,471 stealing her money, plain as day. 709 00:41:13,554 --> 00:41:14,555 [Cecilie] Wow. 710 00:41:14,638 --> 00:41:17,808 I mean, we know that he lied about sending money to Clarence 711 00:41:17,892 --> 00:41:20,936 and his experience in the military. 712 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,480 And now we have him 713 00:41:22,563 --> 00:41:25,941 literally looking into the camera as he steals her money. 714 00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:34,867 [suspenseful music plays] 715 00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:40,247 [Brianne] We have all the evidence we need, 716 00:41:40,331 --> 00:41:43,334 but the police are far more likely to act quickly 717 00:41:43,417 --> 00:41:46,462 if we can show exactly where he is. 718 00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:49,715 We need to find Ricky. 719 00:41:50,257 --> 00:41:51,842 [line ringing] 720 00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:53,177 [Cecilie] Hi, Brianne. 721 00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:56,889 Bridget gave some names of bars that he used to hang out at. 722 00:41:56,972 --> 00:41:59,808 [Brianne] Good. I'm gonna start with the bars. 723 00:41:59,892 --> 00:42:01,977 Talk to the patrons, talk to the owner, 724 00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:05,022 figure out if he's been there, have they seen him, 725 00:42:05,105 --> 00:42:07,733 and more importantly, do they know where he is now? 726 00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:13,781 [indistinct chatter] 727 00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:17,159 Have you seen this guy here? His family's looking for him. 728 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:19,537 Do you guys recognize him? 729 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:20,454 Anybody? No? 730 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,581 -[man] He looks like someone I'd know. -[man 2] I don't. 731 00:42:22,665 --> 00:42:24,750 -You can't put-- -[man 3] I can't honestly say I have. 732 00:42:25,918 --> 00:42:27,920 [funky music plays] 733 00:42:29,088 --> 00:42:31,632 [Brianne] A lot of the real investigative work 734 00:42:31,715 --> 00:42:34,468 comes when you're pounding the pavement, 735 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:38,180 when you're going door-to-door getting information from people. 736 00:42:40,432 --> 00:42:42,601 Do you mind if I showed you guys his photo? 737 00:42:42,685 --> 00:42:44,645 I don't know who that is. 738 00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:47,898 [Brianne] I'm looking for him. His family's looking for him. Yeah. 739 00:42:47,982 --> 00:42:49,441 [man 4] He looks familiar, but like… 740 00:42:49,525 --> 00:42:52,319 I, like, see so many people come in and out of here all the time. 741 00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:54,113 [Brianne] Yeah. Yeah, I get it. 742 00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:57,491 Sometimes they don't wanna talk to me, 743 00:42:57,575 --> 00:43:01,870 but to be a good P.I., you have to be relentless. 744 00:43:03,956 --> 00:43:09,003 Mind if I ask you a real quick question? Um, does this guy look familiar to you? 745 00:43:10,004 --> 00:43:12,381 -You said-- What was his name? -[Brianne] His name is Ricky. 746 00:43:12,464 --> 00:43:14,341 -Ricky? -[Brianne] Ricky Morrisey, yeah. 747 00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:15,759 [ominous music plays] 748 00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:18,262 Maybe? You know, show me his picture again. 749 00:43:18,345 --> 00:43:19,263 [Brianne] Yeah. 750 00:43:25,644 --> 00:43:28,188 [woman] My friend Tammy was talking to somebody. 751 00:43:28,772 --> 00:43:29,732 His name was Ricky. 752 00:43:29,815 --> 00:43:32,026 -[Brianne] Really? Is that her boyfriend? -Yeah. 753 00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:36,280 They might be… I don't know if they're boyfriend-girlfriend. 754 00:43:36,363 --> 00:43:39,742 -They might be dating. -[Brianne] Okay. How do I reach Tammy? 755 00:43:40,409 --> 00:43:42,620 -That's her number there? Perfect. -Yes. 756 00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:48,876 [music fades] 757 00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:50,294 [line ringing] 758 00:43:52,755 --> 00:43:53,589 [woman] Hello? 759 00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:54,923 Hi, Tammy? 760 00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:56,175 [Tammy] Hi. 761 00:43:56,258 --> 00:43:59,178 My name is Brianne. I'm a private investigator. 762 00:43:59,261 --> 00:44:05,100 I am trying to locate any information on a guy named Ricky Morrisey. 763 00:44:05,184 --> 00:44:06,977 I think you might know him. 764 00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:10,481 [Tammy] I met him on a dating app. 765 00:44:10,564 --> 00:44:14,318 We just went on a couple of dates to be honest with you, and that was it. 766 00:44:14,943 --> 00:44:19,281 [Brianne] I'm gonna level with you. He has left a woman with a lot of debt. 767 00:44:20,491 --> 00:44:22,618 -[Tammy] Wow. What a scumbag. -[Brianne] Yeah. 768 00:44:23,243 --> 00:44:25,871 So if you could help me with tracking him down 769 00:44:25,954 --> 00:44:29,625 and point us in his direction, I would really appreciate it. 770 00:44:29,708 --> 00:44:31,126 [Tammy] Yes, absolutely. 771 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,379 [Brianne] That's perfect. Thank you so much, Tammy. 772 00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:34,755 [Tammy] You're welcome. 773 00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:50,062 [cell phone chimes] 774 00:44:53,315 --> 00:44:58,654 Tammy just sent me some messages that she's been having with Ricky. 775 00:45:01,782 --> 00:45:03,409 She asked him where he was at, 776 00:45:03,492 --> 00:45:06,578 and he said he was in South Boston working as a chef. 777 00:45:06,662 --> 00:45:10,207 I have an address. Now we know where he is. 778 00:45:10,833 --> 00:45:13,919 We need to call Bridget and let her know what we found. 779 00:45:15,421 --> 00:45:17,214 [soft music plays] 780 00:45:18,674 --> 00:45:20,509 [line ringing] 781 00:45:20,592 --> 00:45:22,219 Hi, Bridget, it's Cecilie. 782 00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:25,889 -[Bridget] Hi, Cecilie, how are you? -Hi, I'm good. How are you? 783 00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:28,142 -[Bridget] I'm hanging in there. -Good. 784 00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:32,062 I have some good news, actually. We know so much more. 785 00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:35,149 We know the truth now of what he's done. 786 00:45:36,525 --> 00:45:37,985 Ricky lied about Clarence, 787 00:45:38,068 --> 00:45:40,279 and we have the evidence he stole from you. 788 00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:46,952 [Bridget] I'm just shocked, um. Like, who'd-- who would ever do that? 789 00:45:47,453 --> 00:45:49,329 It's not an easy thing to have gone through. 790 00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:51,957 At least we have some more answers now. 791 00:45:52,958 --> 00:45:54,251 [Bridget] It makes me angry. 792 00:45:54,334 --> 00:45:57,504 It hurts to know that somebody can do that. 793 00:45:57,588 --> 00:46:01,759 Um, Brianne has managed to find out where Ricky is. 794 00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:03,343 We have a very good lead. 795 00:46:03,427 --> 00:46:05,220 [Bridget] I want to confront him. 796 00:46:05,304 --> 00:46:08,182 At this point, I need to see him face-to-face. 797 00:46:08,807 --> 00:46:13,270 I wanna get some sort of closure or explanation on what happened. 798 00:46:15,522 --> 00:46:19,818 I can't be afraid for the rest of my life. I can't let Ricky ruin me. 799 00:46:20,569 --> 00:46:24,448 [Cecilie] Okay, if that's what you want, we can make that happen. 800 00:46:24,531 --> 00:46:28,577 I want you to know that, of course, you're not alone in this. 801 00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:30,829 So, Brianne said that we have to act quick 802 00:46:30,913 --> 00:46:33,332 'cause we don't know if he's gonna move again. 803 00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:39,755 [funky pop music plays] 804 00:46:49,932 --> 00:46:54,978 [Bridget] I don't think he would expect that I would stand up to him, honestly. 805 00:46:55,687 --> 00:46:57,689 I needed to heal myself 806 00:46:57,773 --> 00:47:01,902 just to take back that control and that power 807 00:47:01,985 --> 00:47:03,862 that he took from me for two years. 808 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:16,792 [music ends] 809 00:47:17,543 --> 00:47:21,964 Brianne is gonna let us know when, um, they have a sighting of him, 810 00:47:22,047 --> 00:47:26,969 and that's when we need then to get as quickly as possible out of this car. 811 00:47:30,264 --> 00:47:32,057 [ominous music plays] 812 00:47:42,067 --> 00:47:43,861 [Brianne] That's him in the green. 813 00:47:43,944 --> 00:47:45,153 We gotta go now. 814 00:47:46,363 --> 00:47:48,740 Let's go. Yes, now. Now, now, now. Go, go, go. 815 00:47:49,324 --> 00:47:50,534 [Cecilie] We need to go. 816 00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:53,745 Go, go. 817 00:47:55,414 --> 00:47:57,416 [upbeat music plays] 818 00:48:22,608 --> 00:48:23,817 [music ends]