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Stretch, my brother,
what's good, man?

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Wanted to learn a little bit
more about you,

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and I want you to learn
a little bit more about me...

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- Of course.
- And our background, so...

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I wanna say what's up to
John on 105th St

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and Trevor, and, uh--

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He's a ball watcher.

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Why you all up on my--
my lambus?

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You lambus stackus, B.

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(Hip-hop beat playing)
Jay Z: Oh, yeah, yeah
it's in some stores,

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but once we lock
this distribution thing down,

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it's gonna be in all stores.

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- Yeah, just got
rap pick of the week.
- Bobbito: On what label?

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Jay Z:
Roc-A-Fella Records.

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Bobbito: We gonna go with
a little premiere.

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This is the B.I.G.

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KRS-One:
This is all live, New York.

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(Radio tunes)
Nas: Yeah, the album's getting
ready to come out in January,

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the name of that
is "Illmatic."

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(Radio tunes,
O.C.'S "Time's Up" playing)

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O.C.: Time's up.

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♪ You lack the minerals
and vitamins ♪

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♪ Irons and the niacin,
fuck who that I offend ♪

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♪ Rappers sit back,
I'm bout to begin ♪

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♪ Bout foul talk you squawk,
never even walked the walk ♪

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♪ More less destined
to get tested ♪

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♪ Never been arrested,
my album will manifest ♪

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♪ Many things that I saw, did
or heard about ♪

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♪ All told first-hand,
never word of mouth ♪

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♪ What's in the future for
the fusion in the changer ♪

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♪ Rappers are in danger ♪

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♪ Who will use wits
to be a remainder ♪

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♪ Of course we gotta pay rent,
so money connects but, uh, ♪

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♪ I'd rather be broke and have
a whole lot of respect ♪

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♪ It's the principal of it ♪

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♪ I get a rush when I bust
some dope lines I wrote ♪

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♪ That maybe somebody'll quote ♪

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♪ That's what I consider real
in this field of music ♪

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♪ Instead of puttin' brain cells
to work, they abuse it ♪

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♪ Non-conceptual,
non-exceptional ♪

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♪ Everybody's either
crime-related or sexual ♪

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♪ I'm here to make a difference
besides all the riffing ♪

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♪ To traps I'm not sticking ♪

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♪ Rappers stop flipping
for those who pose lyrical ♪

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♪ But really ain't true
I feel ♪

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♪ Their time's limited
hard rocks, too ♪

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Das EFX: It's like that, boy,
it's like that, bust it.

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And I'm gonna come like this.
Check it.

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♪ It's like eenie meenie,
none of y'all can see me ♪

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♪ 'Cause yo, I disappear
and reappear like I'm a genie ♪

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♪ It's the lunatic so bust the
tourniquet it's just a warning ♪

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♪ 'Cause I could go from
am to pm like dawn and ♪

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♪ I'm wicked, kick it,
stick it in your brain ♪

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♪ Like it's a tumor
I roll with PMD, ♪

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♪ So motherfuckers
kill the rumor ♪

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♪ Y'all can never stop my flow,
there ain't nobody looser ♪

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♪ I turn more kids to stone than
that chick they call Medusa ♪

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♪ When I wreck shit
I'm on some next shit ♪

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♪ Because I'm quicker, son,
I turn more rappers to the ♪

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Word up.
Check it out.

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Word 'em up, word 'em up,
Bobbito, Stretch Armstrong.

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It made sense that it was like
a radio station

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that you just couldn't
go to really fast and find.

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You had to go through static.

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You go too far this way,
you're gonna miss it.

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You gotta come back,
so it felt like you guys

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were an island
on this whole planet.

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Where all these big giants
were walking around,

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a new island you had to find
with your radio.

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What's it-- transistor--
whatever that shit's called.

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You guys had opened
the door in New York

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for us, the next generation,
to come through.

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We're here on
the Upper East Side.

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I actually grew up in that
building, 60 96th Street.

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It's kind of like almost
the stereotypical,

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you know, fancy neighborhood
in Manhattan,

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but we're on the edge of that.

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This is like the last street
of the Upper East Side

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where the Upper East Side ends
and Spanish Harlem begins.

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So it's sort of a culturally
mixed up place.

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Our family lived in Douglass
projects on the Upper West Side.

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We moved to Westgate,
that building right behind us

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on 97th Street.

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The building that I lived in
was mixed-income.

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So we had people on welfare,
food stamps

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who were neighbors
to city councilmen,

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lawyers and professionals.

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I had really liberal parents.

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They liked me to hang out
with different types of kids.

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When I was really young
and afraid

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to go to those neighborhoods,
he would make me go there.

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He would actually be like,
"You're going--

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you're going
to your friend's house."

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I'm like-- (Stammers)
Not so crazy.

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Like, my man Ivan Rivera
liked on 109th and Park.

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And I loved Ivan.

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I was genuinely afraid
of hanging out there

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'cause the kids,
they were rough.

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I stood out crazy.

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They used to chase me
two blocks home, chase me,

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try to beat me up,
and they couldn't catch me.

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I had the nickname for like
three months, I was O.J.

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- Word?
- O.J. 'Cause I was like...

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My dad was actually
a Latin jazz musician.

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He played the vibraphones.
My dad was really a classical music aficionado.

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Bob played piano
at the age of 3.

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What you don't know
is he's a good piano player.

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- Aww.
- Mmm.

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Ma, you're being kind.
I sucked.

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I played drums all my life
so that sort of helped me,

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you know, in terms of rhythm
and coordination,

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independence with your hands
and stuff like that.

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By the time he was 11 or 12,
he had a whole set.

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We had to negotiate
with the neighbors

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about when he could play
and when he could not play.

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There was a lot of music
in the family all the time,

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from Bach to drumming.
I got into hip-hop
because I went

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to this school on 96th Street.
Called Manhattan Country School.

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It was like
this utopian school with kids

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from all over New York City,

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and everyone paid according
to how much the family made.

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So it was like you had
rich kids, poor kids,

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kids from the projects,
kids from Park Avenue.

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And there were a lot of kids
from the Bronx who one day,

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came into school, and they were
all rapping "Rapper's Delight."

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Everybody, you know--
whatever-- Puerto Rican kids,

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white kids, Asian kids,
they're all--

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everyone just started getting
into "Rapper's Delight."

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It was like the thing,
and it stuck to some people.

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It stuck to me, and that's when
I started buying rap records.

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In 1977, I was classmates
with a cat named Craig Raddix,

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otherwise known as the original
Rocker Crazy Craig.

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And he was like, "Yo, I want
to show you a dance move."

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And he went down,
and I was like, "That's cool."

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I had never seen anybody dance
and go to the floor.

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I grew up listening
to Red Alert, Marley,

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you know, on the radio,
staying up on the headphones

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and it wasn't till I was
a senior in high school

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that I really wanted
to start DJing.

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I never had like
a visual reference.

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All I ever knew about was
listening to DJs on the radio.

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And that's all I knew.
I didn't know any DJs.

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First DJ that I ever knew
was Clark Kent.

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I am God's favorite DJ.

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I remember meeting you,

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and I remember liking
you out the gate.

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You seemed to care
about the thing

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that we were putting together,

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so it made
listening to you right.

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(Hip-hop music playing)

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I saw Stretch
before I met him.

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I had went to Mars.

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I saw Stretch when he was
Adrian B. At the time.

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Mars was popping back then.

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One night, I come downstairs
to the basement,

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and there's a tall skinny
white dude,

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and he's playing g rap,
"Road to the Riches."

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(Rap music playing)

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And I'm like, oh, I'm in it!
Like, word, okay!

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I'm dancing.
I was dancing back then, too.

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I was a dancer.

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(Rap music playing)

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Shortly after,
I'm at Def Jam.

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(Hip-hop music playing)

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I distinctly remember
him walking down the hallway

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and being like, oh, light bulb,
yo, that's home dude

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I saw rocking at Mars,
and he's nice.

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The moment
that I saw Bobbito,

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I experienced a sense of relief
that I'm in the Def Jam office

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and there's someone
I can actually talk to.

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From second one,
me and Stretch clicked.

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Bobbito: First time I met you
and we go walking around,

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you're like,
"I gotta go meet my girlfriend.

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She works at Ben and Jerry's
down the block.

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I thought you looked
a little foolish back then.

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(Laughs) You still
wanted to be my friend.

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I did want to be your friend!
I just thought you were cool.

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You exuded this air about you,
and then we met

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your girlfriend at the time,
she was beautiful.

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Yo, this dude was bonkers.
How did he pull that?

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I guess he got something
special, you know...

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I guess--
I don't know.

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Maybe I should hang
around him more often.

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It's a pretty short amount
of time between meeting Bobbito

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at Def Jam, developing
a really close friendship

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really quickly,
and then maybe a year later,

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Bobbito, Nick quested and I
become roommates.

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(Rap music playing,
indistinct conversations)

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Stretch: I actually
came up to Columbia

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the summer
before I went to school,

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I went to WKCR because I was
like, they have a radio station.

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That'd be so cool
to get on the radio, whatever,

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and I spoke to somebody
and said,

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"I'm gonna be a student
here in the fall.

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I'd love to do a hip-hop show,"

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and they just played me so hard.

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They were like, "A hi-- (Laughs)
He wants a hip-hop show!

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Hey! Hey! Vanessa!
He wants a hip-hop show!

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Get the--"

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I mean, it was like an emphatic
"Never gonna happen."

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We were just like talking
out of the blue, like, yo--

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just fantasizing.
Fantasizing!

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You were like,
"Wouldn't it be cool

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if we got a radio show
together?"

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And I was like,
"Yo, that'd be crazy!

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I could host,
and you could DJ."

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(Scratching record,
rap music playing)

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I got the show, I was like,
"Yo, Bob, let's rock."

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I didn't want to be the white
boy talking on the radio.

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Just wanted to play the music.
I'm shutting the fuck up.

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Bobbito: We had flyers
for our show,

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and I was taking the flyers
and going on the 1 train uptown

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taking the local on purpose
and going car by car

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left, right,
here's a flyer, boom,

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any kid that looked like
he remotely liked hip-hop,

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yo, bong, bong,
bong, bong, bong.

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I could clearly, clearly
remember you telling me, like,

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"Yo, Bob,
let's take a mic break."

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It's on you.
And this is our first mic break
of our first show.

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I don't even know how far
to bring the level.

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All of a sudden,
it just went through my head,

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"Oh, my God, there are prison
inmates listening.

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There's like the hardest
hardrock stickup kids listening.

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Who am I to be on the mic
for a hip-hop show?"

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And I was just like,
"What's up, New York?!"

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And then I put
the mic back down.
(Laughs)

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WKCR, 89.9 FM, many calls,
many requests, many shout-outs.

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DJ Premier: The first record
I hear y'all play,

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it was a B-side
of Tribe Called Quest,

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and then, you know, most people
didn't play the B-sides,

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and it wasn't the album cut.

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It's just a record
for a 12-inch.

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♪ Yo skinny bonz
give me the track ♪

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♪ That's right
coming off dope ♪

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♪ Guaranteed to be rough ♪

236
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♪ I'm showing Busta Rhymes
never bluff ♪

237
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♪ Huff puff
like a magic dragon ♪

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Then the next record comes

239
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and it's something
I've never heard before.

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If I haven't heard it
and it's from my era,

241
00:11:32,571 --> 00:11:35,366
already, I'm like, who is that,
and what's happening?

242
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And y'all took that chance.

243
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♪ Can I kick it JVC force
intro to dance ♪

244
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(Laughter)
A new jam.

245
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I found out about
the show just because.

246
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The talk was stupid
all the time.

247
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Every time y'all came on,
we knew what was coming.

248
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So all we would do is just wait.
They on, they on!

249
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In the '90s, major radio
stations wasn't the shit.

250
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It was all about
college radio.

251
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DJ Premier:
You were on so late.

252
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Not an hour, not two hours.
You were on till 5:00.

253
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Lord Finesse: Y'all had like
the late-night, late-night.

254
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Call your show
like The Blade Show

255
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for Vampire Listeners,
you know?

256
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Stretch:
That's the graveyard shift.

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I would literally be
on the radio

258
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in the middle of the night

259
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and I would have you
and Stretch on

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a little radio on the side,
so technically,

261
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I was on the radio listening
to you on the radio.

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And it really put me
in a zone, like, you know,

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it made em feel like
something was happening,

264
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there was energy in the city.

265
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Woman: Stretch Armstrong may
look like an ordinary guy,

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but he and others like him
are preserving

267
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a nearly extinct piece
of American culture.

268
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Man on telephone:
And I like Stretch Armstrong!

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(Laughter and shouting)

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I think he's
a nice white guy.

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(Laughter)

272
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DJ Rob Swift:
I knew Stretch was white.

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I didn't know, but I pictured
a white guy for some reason.

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I didn't think that white kids
listened to hip-hop

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or that they were interested
or cared about it.

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It wasn't like, oh, my God,
Stretch Armstrong

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is the white DJ,
and that's why I'm listening.

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That wasn't it,
but there was no doubt

279
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either consciously
or subconsciously

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where that was, like,
a component.

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There was an openness
and an invitation

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to just be yourself.

283
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Battle Sounds: What do you know
what to look for right now?
The label.

284
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What's the label?
That's the first priority.

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Step up front.

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Stretch:
For me the motivation

287
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was really about having tons
of music that I was nuts about.

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I just created this network
that was independent

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of the record labels,
getting demos and remixes

290
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from producers to feed
the show new music

291
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you couldn't hear anywhere.

292
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We changed what a mix show
could be.

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We were being broadcast
into your homes,

294
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but really, you were coming
into our world.

295
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♪ I don't know is where
you ran or came ♪

296
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♪ I know your vain,
I hate your name ♪

297
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♪ Your shame playing the game
that drove you insane ♪

298
00:14:10,354 --> 00:14:12,564
♪ You walk around puddles
smelling the rain ♪

299
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♪ With a cane nothing
to gain but shame... ♪

300
00:14:15,192 --> 00:14:18,320
Y'all didn't give us no limit
on how long we could black out.

301
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If you had bars,
y'all just let niggas go.

302
00:14:21,657 --> 00:14:23,784
♪ Why's my name
the Large Professor ♪

303
00:14:23,784 --> 00:14:26,870
♪ Cause I milked your cow,
so go ask your heffer ♪

304
00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:29,540
♪ Don't talk about
how you can break Rambo ♪

305
00:14:29,540 --> 00:14:32,376
♪ That's just a bunch
of mambo you hambo ♪

306
00:14:32,376 --> 00:14:34,753
♪ Propaganda,
save it for Savanda, ♪

307
00:14:34,753 --> 00:14:37,464
♪ Joe and Amanda,
Zach and Alexandra ♪

308
00:14:37,464 --> 00:14:40,134
♪ I'm high potent
devoting much time ♪

309
00:14:40,134 --> 00:14:42,929
♪ Into one rhyme, every line
of mine is worth quoting ♪

310
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♪ I'm like a college dorm ♪

311
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♪ People will swarm
for knowledge ♪

312
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♪ Applicants chill out
and fill out a form ♪

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♪ Forget about the rest yo,
the East is the best ♪

314
00:14:50,311 --> 00:14:52,813
♪ When it comes to a battle,
yo, the Jorge will never fess ♪

315
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♪ Or front, I smoke blunts,
line up the stunts on the wall ♪

316
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♪ And then I give it my all ♪

317
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♪ That means I bend them over
with the quickness ♪

318
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♪ and then I drop the lyrics
with the slickness ♪

319
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♪ Cause Jorge will never front
off the top of the head ♪

320
00:15:05,284 --> 00:15:06,744
♪ And when it comes
to the skeezers ♪

321
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♪ I take them to the bed ♪

322
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♪ So what is the science
as I kick the appliance ♪

323
00:15:11,332 --> 00:15:14,043
♪ coming off dope
as I form the alliance ♪

324
00:15:14,043 --> 00:15:16,545
♪ Feminine fat coming
nice and rough ♪

325
00:15:16,545 --> 00:15:18,922
♪ I am the man showing
you that I'm tough ♪

326
00:15:18,922 --> 00:15:21,633
♪ Indeed I like the girls
that do not lick the crack ♪

327
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(Fades) ♪ She signs for her
life that old fat contract ♪

328
00:15:24,094 --> 00:15:27,890
We had niggas coming to school
that recorded that episode

329
00:15:27,890 --> 00:15:31,643
of Stretch and Bobbito
freestlying on the box,

330
00:15:31,643 --> 00:15:34,146
and niggas
was dick-riding pause.

331
00:15:34,146 --> 00:15:37,941
Confession--
niggas was scared to death

332
00:15:37,941 --> 00:15:39,818
'cause I didn't want
to fuck up.

333
00:15:39,818 --> 00:15:42,030
Even though
we knew we had to freestyle.

334
00:15:42,030 --> 00:15:43,530
I would have been fine
with y'all

335
00:15:43,530 --> 00:15:45,741
forgetting to ask us to do it.

336
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(Hip-hop music playing)

337
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Stretch: The only reason
why you could hear KCR

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in the tri-state area was
because we were being broadcast

339
00:15:54,917 --> 00:15:56,627
from the top
of the World Trade Center,

340
00:15:56,627 --> 00:15:58,587
so that signal would travel,
but it was a little signal

341
00:15:58,587 --> 00:16:00,964
on a little rinky-dink
fucked up station

342
00:16:00,964 --> 00:16:02,508
with a board from the '60s.

343
00:16:02,508 --> 00:16:04,468
Sometimes the left channel
would drop out,

344
00:16:04,468 --> 00:16:07,221
and I would have to punch the
console, and it'd pop back up.

345
00:16:07,221 --> 00:16:09,765
This guy is answering the doors,
answering the phones,

346
00:16:09,765 --> 00:16:12,684
opening the mailbox, making sure
no one's doing graffiti,

347
00:16:12,684 --> 00:16:15,354
Yo, what's up?
Can I have my marker?

348
00:16:18,107 --> 00:16:19,942
Yo, sh--
(Laughter)

349
00:16:19,942 --> 00:16:21,985
Fucking graffiti, man!

350
00:16:21,985 --> 00:16:24,738
They're gonna kick us off
the air 'cause of this shit.

351
00:16:24,738 --> 00:16:28,158
I'm there making music,
go from 1:00 to 5:00.

352
00:16:28,158 --> 00:16:30,494
No commercial break.
I can't go to the bathroom.

353
00:16:30,494 --> 00:16:32,913
(Laughs)
I never thought about that.

354
00:16:32,913 --> 00:16:35,416
It was hectic, man,
or I did, I had to--

355
00:16:35,416 --> 00:16:38,168
(Rolls tongue,
imitates peeing)

356
00:16:38,168 --> 00:16:41,797
Did you ever wash your hands
though between?

357
00:16:41,797 --> 00:16:43,590
I still don't.
What's up?

358
00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:46,677
(Rap music playing)

359
00:16:46,677 --> 00:16:48,554
(Man laughs)

360
00:16:48,554 --> 00:16:51,265
When I got to WKCR,
we were in a station

361
00:16:51,265 --> 00:16:53,684
that hadn't been renovated
since it started.

362
00:16:53,684 --> 00:16:56,603
We were in Ferris Booth Hall.
It was pretty grimy.

363
00:16:56,603 --> 00:16:58,230
It was pretty nasty
to sit on a couch.

364
00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:59,940
You weren't sure
what you were gonna sit on.

365
00:16:59,940 --> 00:17:01,775
You weren't sure
what had happened there.

366
00:17:01,775 --> 00:17:03,652
A lot of people
slept in the studio

367
00:17:03,652 --> 00:17:05,446
and probably did
a lot of other stuff.

368
00:17:05,446 --> 00:17:06,905
You prayed that the machines

369
00:17:06,905 --> 00:17:08,532
and the consoles
would actually work.

370
00:17:08,532 --> 00:17:11,743
For literally decades,
nothing had been touched.

371
00:17:11,743 --> 00:17:13,871
For our listeners,
it was a community.

372
00:17:13,871 --> 00:17:15,539
Most of them didn't even realize
they were listening

373
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to a station that was run on
the Columbia Campus by students.

374
00:17:18,292 --> 00:17:19,501
Zuhirah: The coolest thing
about the school

375
00:17:19,501 --> 00:17:21,128
was that you guys were here.

376
00:17:21,128 --> 00:17:25,007
Right outside my dorm room,
Fat Joe was rolling up.

377
00:17:25,007 --> 00:17:26,842
Fat Joe: I remember
walking in and out of here

378
00:17:26,842 --> 00:17:29,219
and I would just bump into
whoever was the hottest nigga

379
00:17:29,219 --> 00:17:31,263
in the world, like,
yo, what's up, y'all?

380
00:17:31,263 --> 00:17:33,390
Oh, you going in?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

381
00:17:33,390 --> 00:17:34,892
We gonna go rhyme and shit.

382
00:17:34,892 --> 00:17:36,602
This is Fat Joe in the house.

383
00:17:36,602 --> 00:17:39,062
I gotta say peace to the whole
boogie down Bronx,

384
00:17:39,062 --> 00:17:40,564
know what I'm saying?

385
00:17:40,564 --> 00:17:42,733
I used to hear this rap station
out of nowhere.

386
00:17:42,733 --> 00:17:45,111
I used to be like, you know,
just fine-tuning.

387
00:17:45,111 --> 00:17:47,863
You know you turn
your radio real slow

388
00:17:47,863 --> 00:17:50,949
like you out in the desert,
you trying to find the station.

389
00:17:50,949 --> 00:17:52,743
'Cause I used to look for rap
on them stations

390
00:17:52,743 --> 00:17:54,995
that barely could come in
the frequency, like,

391
00:17:54,995 --> 00:17:56,705
you know, you be turning
and it's like--

392
00:17:56,705 --> 00:17:58,499
(Imitates static)

393
00:17:58,499 --> 00:18:02,127
You know, you had to s--
do the eye

394
00:18:02,127 --> 00:18:04,630
to get the dial
tuned right on it.

395
00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:06,548
Make you sure you move
your antennas the right way

396
00:18:06,548 --> 00:18:08,258
and stuff so you get it in.

397
00:18:08,258 --> 00:18:10,135
DJ Premier: You got it.
In New York, you got it.

398
00:18:10,135 --> 00:18:11,929
And it was a beautiful thing.

399
00:18:11,929 --> 00:18:13,847
Riggs: There was a kid in
my class that was coming in

400
00:18:13,847 --> 00:18:15,474
with all the exclusives.

401
00:18:15,474 --> 00:18:17,392
I was like, yo,
can I listen to it?

402
00:18:17,392 --> 00:18:19,228
He really got stingy with 'em.
Yo, where'd you get it?

403
00:18:19,228 --> 00:18:20,938
You could tell
it wasn't a mix tape.

404
00:18:20,938 --> 00:18:23,774
He was like, yo, 89 tec 9, man.
Kid of brushed me away.

405
00:18:23,774 --> 00:18:25,359
I was like, yo,
fuck you, bro.

406
00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,819
(Laughter)
Is that how you're doing this?

407
00:18:27,819 --> 00:18:30,280
So did my little research,
89 tec 9.

408
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,241
That's all you knew it as.

409
00:18:32,241 --> 00:18:34,451
Stretch:
Even if you're listening
to community or college stations

410
00:18:34,451 --> 00:18:37,037
there's a certain blueprint
that they follow.

411
00:18:37,037 --> 00:18:39,623
If it's commercial,
it's very slick and confident

412
00:18:39,623 --> 00:18:43,335
and well-produced.
Stay hot-97 weather.
Kind of high clouds today.

413
00:18:43,335 --> 00:18:45,504
Our show ended up being
none of those things.

414
00:18:45,504 --> 00:18:47,256
♪ It's like that and-ah ♪

415
00:18:47,256 --> 00:18:49,299
♪ JVC can rock a party
without a band and-ah ♪

416
00:18:49,299 --> 00:18:51,426
♪ Step up, you get dissed
in a rude manner ♪

417
00:18:51,426 --> 00:18:54,012
♪ And I'm the a I talk more
than Rosanna Danadana ♪

418
00:18:54,012 --> 00:18:56,390
♪ And I'm the B I wet your
whistle like tropicana and-ah ♪

419
00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:58,433
♪ And he's the C,
let him learn ♪

420
00:18:58,433 --> 00:19:01,061
It was uncensored, you know,
so for the first times,

421
00:19:01,061 --> 00:19:03,230
you heard the curse words
on the records,

422
00:19:03,230 --> 00:19:06,400
and I'm like, yo, they're not
gonna edit that shit?

423
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,110
I got a lot of cursing.

424
00:19:08,110 --> 00:19:10,404
Yeah, that's all right.
Bring it.

425
00:19:10,404 --> 00:19:13,615
♪ This is for my niggas who
ain't fuckin' with the system ♪

426
00:19:13,615 --> 00:19:15,450
♪ Tired of arrest,
doing the best ♪

427
00:19:15,450 --> 00:19:17,619
♪ To try to dick 'em
up the ass with no grease ♪

428
00:19:17,619 --> 00:19:19,454
♪ The fuckin' police gots
to go ♪

429
00:19:19,454 --> 00:19:22,583
♪ Niggas feel the same
from Maine to Chicago ♪

430
00:19:22,583 --> 00:19:25,168
♪ California to New York,
gotta warn ya bout the pork ♪

431
00:19:25,168 --> 00:19:27,087
♪ They be
on the fuckin' hawk ♪

432
00:19:27,087 --> 00:19:29,881
♪ Lookin' for a nigga
so they can dig another grave ♪

433
00:19:29,881 --> 00:19:32,718
♪ My big brother was a slave
but I'm like nat Turner ♪

434
00:19:32,718 --> 00:19:35,262
♪ With two burners
bustin' back 'cause I'm black ♪

435
00:19:35,262 --> 00:19:38,181
♪ Now you learn
a lesson on how to act ♪

436
00:19:38,181 --> 00:19:41,101
Black people have not been
given the chance

437
00:19:41,101 --> 00:19:44,146
to express joy or anger.

438
00:19:44,146 --> 00:19:46,398
So rap music
is the expression of both.

439
00:19:46,398 --> 00:19:49,401
♪ Then I peed on niggas,
came the absolute worst ♪

440
00:19:49,401 --> 00:19:52,571
♪ I lost compassion for humans,
and then smacked up they moms ♪

441
00:19:52,571 --> 00:19:55,115
♪ Fan and got the arms
from under my mattress ♪

442
00:19:55,115 --> 00:19:57,743
♪ My little man Satan
got somethin' in his jacket ♪

443
00:19:57,743 --> 00:19:59,536
Stretch:
I've got a handful of records.

444
00:19:59,536 --> 00:20:01,955
The idea was to match a beat
to the artist

445
00:20:01,955 --> 00:20:03,999
that would elicit
the most inspired

446
00:20:03,999 --> 00:20:05,626
and enthusiastic performance.

447
00:20:05,626 --> 00:20:08,003
♪ The man on the mic
when I kwon be ♪

448
00:20:08,003 --> 00:20:10,714
♪ Ripping it and a dip
to get her ass bursted ♪

449
00:20:10,714 --> 00:20:13,342
♪ Cash is first with enough
skill and I bust ♪

450
00:20:13,342 --> 00:20:17,137
♪ Still she gotta thrust
to-o-o my hotel ♪

451
00:20:17,137 --> 00:20:19,640
♪ I told the bitch
you know Cash and you know Del ♪

452
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,224
♪ And we gonna kick it ♪

453
00:20:21,224 --> 00:20:22,976
♪ Don't even trip
'cause I'm wicked ♪

454
00:20:22,976 --> 00:20:25,228
♪ I love this track,
and so I'm gonna stick ♪

455
00:20:25,228 --> 00:20:27,773
Stretch: I come from
the school of never wanna hear

456
00:20:27,773 --> 00:20:31,360
the same record twice at a gig
or on a radio show.

457
00:20:33,321 --> 00:20:35,447
Lord Finesse: The craziest thing
you wanna do

458
00:20:35,447 --> 00:20:37,991
is be the last person
up on something.

459
00:20:37,991 --> 00:20:41,036
Like, yo, Stretch,
you played this joint!

460
00:20:41,036 --> 00:20:43,121
Rob: If you fell asleep,
you would hope

461
00:20:43,121 --> 00:20:45,874
that when the tape deck stopped,
it would wake you up

462
00:20:45,874 --> 00:20:48,418
to flip it to the other side.

463
00:20:48,418 --> 00:20:50,253
Gotta get your tapes ready,
tape deck, sound checks.

464
00:20:50,253 --> 00:20:52,547
I used to have this stack system
directly to my right

465
00:20:52,547 --> 00:20:55,509
so I was able to manipulate it
while I was laying down.

466
00:20:55,509 --> 00:20:56,968
(Laughs)

467
00:20:56,968 --> 00:20:59,012
Manipulate the tape deck
while I was laying down.

468
00:20:59,012 --> 00:21:01,682
And I couldn't set alarms
to keep me up.

469
00:21:01,682 --> 00:21:04,559
(Laughs)

470
00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:07,020
Why you gotta be stupid for?

471
00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:09,439
Busta Rhymes: I would play shit
so much, the tape would bust

472
00:21:09,439 --> 00:21:11,400
so I could get the steak knife,

473
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,029
and I would turn them screws
until I got the frame open, bro.

474
00:21:16,029 --> 00:21:17,948
And I'd get a scissors,
and I would just cut

475
00:21:17,948 --> 00:21:20,992
a little edge
off the fucking scotch tape.

476
00:21:20,992 --> 00:21:23,203
I matched that bitch back up,
put the frame.

477
00:21:23,203 --> 00:21:25,497
I would wind the reel tight

478
00:21:25,497 --> 00:21:27,958
to save my Stretch
and Bobbito tape.

479
00:21:27,958 --> 00:21:29,876
The Friday morning was
you missed your first period,

480
00:21:29,876 --> 00:21:31,837
so I almost failed out of gym.

481
00:21:31,837 --> 00:21:34,756
Mrs. Vega, my Spanish teacher,
she even commented a few times,

482
00:21:34,756 --> 00:21:36,758
"Every Friday, you come in
looking like a mess."

483
00:21:36,758 --> 00:21:39,302
- Did you give her a tape?
- No, I never gave her a tape.

484
00:21:39,302 --> 00:21:41,179
I would go to school
and front.

485
00:21:41,179 --> 00:21:43,557
You want this tape?
$5, nigga.

486
00:21:43,557 --> 00:21:45,517
(Laughs)

487
00:21:45,517 --> 00:21:46,977
Bobbito:
You used to sell our tapes?

488
00:21:46,977 --> 00:21:48,979
I sold y'all tapes.
I made money.

489
00:21:48,979 --> 00:21:50,731
That shit was drugs, B.

490
00:21:50,731 --> 00:21:52,441
Thursday nights,
I got no ass.

491
00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:56,111
That was straight up
Stretch and Bob's night.

492
00:21:56,111 --> 00:21:58,947
Girls would beep me.
It was beepers back then.

493
00:21:58,947 --> 00:22:01,199
"No, no, I'm listening
to the radio," like, "What?"

494
00:22:01,199 --> 00:22:03,994
Greg nice would call me, "Yo,
Tupac's over here, we'll hang."

495
00:22:03,994 --> 00:22:06,246
KRS-One is coming over,
"Which was a big deal,"

496
00:22:06,246 --> 00:22:08,081
if KRS was coming
to your house."

497
00:22:08,081 --> 00:22:11,418
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, I'm on my way.

498
00:22:11,418 --> 00:22:14,087
What street?
I'll be right there.

499
00:22:14,087 --> 00:22:16,590
We'd listen to y'all all night
until it went off,

500
00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:18,258
every fucking week.

501
00:22:18,258 --> 00:22:20,802
I vividly remember
staying up late

502
00:22:20,802 --> 00:22:23,346
listening to 89 tec 9.

503
00:22:23,346 --> 00:22:29,478
You know, cassette in place
powered and batteried, right?

504
00:22:29,478 --> 00:22:31,021
Record.

505
00:22:31,021 --> 00:22:32,814
It was like capturing
pieces of history.

506
00:22:32,814 --> 00:22:34,775
El-P: All of a sudden it
was like all us weirdoes

507
00:22:34,775 --> 00:22:36,610
who were obsessed
with this music,

508
00:22:36,610 --> 00:22:38,862
we have a place to be,
and we don't know each other,

509
00:22:38,862 --> 00:22:41,114
but we know that we're all
sitting somewhere

510
00:22:41,114 --> 00:22:43,200
late at night listening
to this music together.

511
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,454
So it was like the collective
consciousness of artists,

512
00:22:46,454 --> 00:22:49,372
the kids who would become
the next generation of rappers

513
00:22:49,372 --> 00:22:52,375
all were being educated by you
guys at the same time.

514
00:22:52,375 --> 00:22:56,797
When I started working with MOBB
and working with Nas,

515
00:22:56,797 --> 00:23:00,467
I was thinking about making shit
that would sound good

516
00:23:00,467 --> 00:23:02,469
on your show specifically.

517
00:23:02,469 --> 00:23:05,806
You weren't on Stretch and Bob,
it wasn't official, flat-out.

518
00:23:05,806 --> 00:23:09,684
The '90s was just like we was
outer space with it

519
00:23:09,684 --> 00:23:12,438
'cause it was like the colorful
sounds from the records,

520
00:23:12,438 --> 00:23:15,524
filtered bass lines, crazy--
(Imitates bass)

521
00:23:15,524 --> 00:23:18,026
It just did something to our
soul, you know what I mean?

522
00:23:18,026 --> 00:23:21,279
It made us want to be
a part of the culture even more.

523
00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:23,532
This was freedom, man.
This was freedom.

524
00:23:23,532 --> 00:23:26,743
This wasn't the bureaucratic
bullshit of, like,

525
00:23:26,743 --> 00:23:28,578
you know, other stations.

526
00:23:28,578 --> 00:23:30,997
We can't play that.
We got a playlist here.

527
00:23:30,997 --> 00:23:32,833
We were the playlist,
you know what I'm saying?

528
00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:35,794
The playlist came
through the door.

529
00:23:35,794 --> 00:23:38,296
(Rapping indistinctly)

530
00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:55,355
It was just like rap-a-palooza.

531
00:23:55,355 --> 00:23:57,274
First you was nice
on your block.

532
00:23:57,274 --> 00:23:58,942
Then it was nice
in your neighborhood.

533
00:23:58,942 --> 00:24:00,610
Then it was nice in the park,

534
00:24:00,610 --> 00:24:02,571
and then you got to go
on Stretch and Bob.

535
00:24:02,571 --> 00:24:04,364
Busta Rhymes: It didn't matter
how many battles

536
00:24:04,364 --> 00:24:05,991
you had in the street.

537
00:24:05,991 --> 00:24:08,118
It wasn't deemed official
by you coming up

538
00:24:08,118 --> 00:24:11,246
to Stretch and Bobbito's show
and doing your dance

539
00:24:11,246 --> 00:24:13,540
on that mic live
with a freestyle?

540
00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:17,210
You wasn't really no real mc,
and that was the status quo.

541
00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:19,629
We wasn't on
that cool Fonzie shit

542
00:24:19,629 --> 00:24:22,549
these niggas are on nowadays,
shit.

543
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:25,635
We wanted to the fuckin' world
know we was nice.

544
00:24:25,635 --> 00:24:28,221
♪ I have to win,
I'm 100% masculine ♪

545
00:24:28,221 --> 00:24:31,016
♪ Standing tall like Christopher
Reeve before the accident ♪

546
00:24:31,016 --> 00:24:33,602
Bonz Malone: When I wasn't here,
I'm tuning in Thursday night.

547
00:24:33,602 --> 00:24:36,313
You crazy, who's there?
It's jeru.

548
00:24:36,313 --> 00:24:40,317
You know, it's MOBB deep.
It's Nas, it's Wu, it's Big.

549
00:24:40,317 --> 00:24:43,945
Yo, it was everybody
who wasn't signed yet, man.

550
00:24:43,945 --> 00:24:45,531
That was crazy.

551
00:24:45,531 --> 00:24:47,490
You'd have everybody
who was anybody on.

552
00:24:47,490 --> 00:24:48,992
I'd hear somebody on your show,

553
00:24:48,992 --> 00:24:50,536
and I'd wanna give them
a record deal

554
00:24:50,536 --> 00:24:52,162
it was uncanny.

555
00:24:52,162 --> 00:24:54,331
♪ Shimmy shimmy ya,
shimmy yam shimmy yay ♪

556
00:24:54,331 --> 00:24:56,542
♪ Gimme the mic
so I can take it away ♪

557
00:24:56,542 --> 00:24:57,792
So I heard that.

558
00:24:57,792 --> 00:24:59,502
I was in my house
listening to that.

559
00:24:59,502 --> 00:25:01,504
Something went off.
I was like, oh, I gotta get him.

560
00:25:01,504 --> 00:25:03,632
♪ Wu-Tang killer bees
on the swarm ♪

561
00:25:03,632 --> 00:25:05,926
♪ Rain on your college-ass
disco dorm ♪

562
00:25:05,926 --> 00:25:07,719
♪ For you to even touch
my skill ♪

563
00:25:07,719 --> 00:25:09,304
♪ You gotta go
through one killer bee ♪

564
00:25:09,304 --> 00:25:10,847
♪ And he ain't
for the kill now ♪

565
00:25:10,847 --> 00:25:13,016
I called up and I said,
"Yo, I'm coming up."

566
00:25:13,016 --> 00:25:15,226
♪ I get psycho,
killer, Norman Bates ♪

567
00:25:15,226 --> 00:25:17,938
♪ My producer slam
my flow is like bam ♪

568
00:25:17,938 --> 00:25:20,523
♪ Jump on stage
then I dip down ♪

569
00:25:20,523 --> 00:25:23,569
Old Dirty Bastard,
Wu-Tang Clan coming at you...

570
00:25:23,569 --> 00:25:27,030
I came up to sign
Ol' Dirty Bastard.

571
00:25:27,030 --> 00:25:29,282
I ended up signing him,
and he went on to sell

572
00:25:29,282 --> 00:25:31,242
millions of records
and be a legendary character,

573
00:25:31,242 --> 00:25:32,994
and I would never
have signed him

574
00:25:32,994 --> 00:25:34,622
if I didn't tune in that night.

575
00:25:34,622 --> 00:25:36,289
Hearing that changed my life.

576
00:25:36,289 --> 00:25:39,042
And I signed him before
the Wu-Tang album came out.

577
00:25:39,042 --> 00:25:42,754
The first time I heard "Protect
ya neck," on y'all's show

578
00:25:42,754 --> 00:25:45,715
I might have jumped
half my height.

579
00:25:45,715 --> 00:25:49,219
Y'all just threw it on--
(Grunts)

580
00:25:49,219 --> 00:25:52,555
Once I heard that,
turned it up.

581
00:25:52,555 --> 00:25:54,849
(Backbeat playing)

582
00:25:54,849 --> 00:25:57,519
When you from the projects,
you don't think that far

583
00:25:57,519 --> 00:25:59,896
like you gonna be able to be
heard on the radio.

584
00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:03,024
The radio was like, oh, shit.

585
00:26:03,024 --> 00:26:05,568
All we know every day is seeing
fiends in our faces

586
00:26:05,568 --> 00:26:08,614
and holding guns and we
stashing shit in the bushes

587
00:26:08,614 --> 00:26:09,864
and all that.

588
00:26:09,864 --> 00:26:11,908
At nighttime,
that was the time

589
00:26:11,908 --> 00:26:15,662
where we wanted to be rappers
because y'all show came on.

590
00:26:15,662 --> 00:26:17,998
These niggas is co-signing it,

591
00:26:17,998 --> 00:26:20,917
and they playing it like
it's the truth,

592
00:26:20,917 --> 00:26:22,877
it's almost like
getting that pass.

593
00:26:22,877 --> 00:26:26,923
And y'all's show defined
who was getting that pass.

594
00:26:26,923 --> 00:26:28,717
You know, West Coast artists
weren't really getting

595
00:26:28,717 --> 00:26:31,928
too much love on the radio
back there on the East Coast.

596
00:26:31,928 --> 00:26:34,806
Especially us because
of our marijuana issues

597
00:26:34,806 --> 00:26:36,599
that we bring up.

598
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:38,852
You know, we've sold close
to 20 million records.

599
00:26:38,852 --> 00:26:42,397
And you guys were the guys
who lit the fires for us.

600
00:26:42,397 --> 00:26:45,734
We're making it on the west,
but this is where it comes from.

601
00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:50,113
Anytime you have an artist
people just don't care about,

602
00:26:50,113 --> 00:26:52,490
they need that one thing
that gives them that pop,

603
00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:54,492
that credibility.

604
00:26:54,492 --> 00:26:58,246
That's something that we were
really missing with the Fugees.

605
00:26:58,246 --> 00:26:59,956
I said, "Stretch,
I really want to have

606
00:26:59,956 --> 00:27:02,333
the Fugees come up
to the show."

607
00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:06,337
And he was like,
"Yeah, no, we're good.

608
00:27:06,337 --> 00:27:09,924
Not gonna happen, but you can
bring Big L and Nas."

609
00:27:09,924 --> 00:27:13,679
After some strong negotiation,
you relented.

610
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:16,014
♪ Yo, I and I is one
and I and I is two ♪

611
00:27:16,014 --> 00:27:17,724
♪ But I and I makes three ♪

612
00:27:17,724 --> 00:27:19,142
♪ When you're fucking
with the Fugee crew ♪

613
00:27:19,142 --> 00:27:20,977
♪ I move like the phantom ♪

614
00:27:20,977 --> 00:27:23,188
♪ They stalking like the beast
I rise in the east ♪

615
00:27:23,188 --> 00:27:24,981
♪ And if you fuck with me
you'll be deceased ♪

616
00:27:24,981 --> 00:27:27,693
Lauryn and Clef got on the mic
and killed it.

617
00:27:27,693 --> 00:27:29,611
And that's when Bobbito
turned around,

618
00:27:29,611 --> 00:27:31,071
and he was like...

619
00:27:31,071 --> 00:27:32,698
And then I remember
Stretch was like...

620
00:27:32,698 --> 00:27:34,700
♪ Pump your first
as I persist to diss ♪

621
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:37,494
♪ All of them critics that try
to predict the Fugees shit ♪

622
00:27:37,494 --> 00:27:39,829
♪ But hit or miss hit or miss
just like my clitoris ♪

623
00:27:39,829 --> 00:27:42,791
(Rapping fading)

624
00:27:42,791 --> 00:27:46,503
For the Fugees to be able
to not only get on the show

625
00:27:46,503 --> 00:27:49,798
but then kill it,
you guys are like star makers.

626
00:27:49,798 --> 00:27:51,132
Tonight, something special
happened.

627
00:27:51,132 --> 00:27:52,842
The Fugees are on the map.

628
00:27:52,842 --> 00:27:56,179
I remember KRS-One
came up here one night,

629
00:27:56,179 --> 00:28:00,183
and he was rhyming about
the British troops in Angola.

630
00:28:00,183 --> 00:28:02,310
♪ On January 30th, 1906 ♪

631
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:04,646
♪ 3,000 Africans were killed
by some Brits ♪

632
00:28:04,646 --> 00:28:07,398
♪ They don't quit British
troops to be exact, ♪

633
00:28:07,398 --> 00:28:09,067
♪ It's called
the Bambataa Massacre ♪

634
00:28:09,067 --> 00:28:11,194
♪ This took place
in South Africa ♪

635
00:28:11,194 --> 00:28:13,571
♪ May 4th, 1978,
they still killing ♪

636
00:28:13,571 --> 00:28:15,448
♪ 700 African men,
women and children ♪

637
00:28:15,448 --> 00:28:17,450
♪ Tell the world I told ya ♪

638
00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:21,079
♪ This particular killing took
place in Cassinga, Angola ♪

639
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:22,914
And I went and talked to a
professor about it

640
00:28:22,914 --> 00:28:27,293
the next day, like, yeah,
trying to represent hip-hop.

641
00:28:27,293 --> 00:28:30,588
"Hip-hop talks about history,
and KRS was rhyming

642
00:28:30,588 --> 00:28:33,174
about British troops
in Angola,"

643
00:28:33,174 --> 00:28:35,051
and she was like, "The British
were never in Angola.

644
00:28:35,051 --> 00:28:39,264
It was the Portuguese."
(Laughter)

645
00:28:39,264 --> 00:28:41,683
You must learn.

646
00:28:41,683 --> 00:28:44,811
(Humming)

647
00:28:44,811 --> 00:28:48,815
(Laughing)

648
00:28:48,815 --> 00:28:50,817
Y'all guys
are real hilarious.

649
00:28:50,817 --> 00:28:54,487
Stretch,
say something on the mic, kid.

650
00:28:54,487 --> 00:28:56,364
Halalulu, hobbits.

651
00:28:56,364 --> 00:28:59,576
Stretch: Pretty early on,
Bobbito was the voice,

652
00:28:59,576 --> 00:29:01,536
and I was the silent DJ.

653
00:29:01,536 --> 00:29:04,080
Funkmaster Flex pulled me
to the side unprompted

654
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,708
and said, "yo, Stretch,
you're the DJ.

655
00:29:06,708 --> 00:29:10,420
This is your show.
DJ to DJ, you need to talk."

656
00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:15,133
Reggie was at my house.
And, uh, he didn't ask me.

657
00:29:15,133 --> 00:29:17,719
He just went--
he was there for a long time.

658
00:29:17,719 --> 00:29:20,263
He was smoking a lot of blunts
and went to brush his teeth.

659
00:29:20,263 --> 00:29:21,848
He used a toothbrush.

660
00:29:21,848 --> 00:29:25,768
He used the old
"Clean the sneaker" toothbrush.

661
00:29:25,768 --> 00:29:27,854
(Laughter
and overlapping voices)

662
00:29:31,608 --> 00:29:33,276
It's hard to get sleep
when you're laughing.

663
00:29:33,276 --> 00:29:36,446
You ever laugh and sleep?
It's kind of difficult.

664
00:29:36,446 --> 00:29:38,072
♪ Breath hangs the rest ♪

665
00:29:38,072 --> 00:29:39,741
♪ Your breath smells
like burning flesh ♪

666
00:29:39,741 --> 00:29:41,367
♪ And Lord Sear's left breast ♪

667
00:29:41,367 --> 00:29:45,914
Ah, yeah, uh, it's like that.
Uh, like that.

668
00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:47,874
(Laughter and hooting)

669
00:29:54,756 --> 00:29:56,049
Lord Sear's left breast.

670
00:29:56,049 --> 00:29:58,092
You told me, yo,
good friend of mine,

671
00:29:58,092 --> 00:30:00,053
Stretch, on that show,
Columbia University.

672
00:30:00,053 --> 00:30:02,472
I know you like rap,
and I know you like food.

673
00:30:02,472 --> 00:30:05,893
You like soda.
It's all there. Come through.

674
00:30:05,893 --> 00:30:08,519
(Laughter)

675
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:10,772
"I'll go!"
I became the resident jokester.

676
00:30:10,772 --> 00:30:12,815
- Rosario, do you drink?
- No, I'm not old enough.

677
00:30:12,815 --> 00:30:14,567
You smoke?
How old are you?

678
00:30:14,567 --> 00:30:16,152
20.

679
00:30:16,152 --> 00:30:17,863
You don't smoke
no crack or nothing?!

680
00:30:17,863 --> 00:30:18,988
What's your problem?!

681
00:30:18,988 --> 00:30:21,909
No, baby, I'm clean, yo.

682
00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:23,243
You could lick this.

683
00:30:23,243 --> 00:30:24,870
(Laughter)

684
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:27,580
Y-y-y-y-y-yo.

685
00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:29,499
(Rap music playing
in background)

686
00:30:36,924 --> 00:30:39,384
Man on telephone:
This is Ralph, man.

687
00:30:39,384 --> 00:30:41,052
Bobbito: Where you calling from,
Ralph?

688
00:30:41,052 --> 00:30:43,221
From D'agostino's, man.
D'agostino's?

689
00:30:43,221 --> 00:30:45,682
(Laughter and fart noises)

690
00:31:16,170 --> 00:31:18,131
Crazy Legs: That was different
because normally,

691
00:31:18,131 --> 00:31:20,591
people didn't get snapped on.

692
00:31:20,591 --> 00:31:22,176
That was very different.

693
00:31:22,176 --> 00:31:25,763
Then Lord Sear came up with
"AKA Jennifer Beals"

694
00:31:25,763 --> 00:31:28,433
because I double for
Jennifer Beals in "Flashdance."

695
00:31:28,433 --> 00:31:30,727
(Laughter)
You know, it's good.

696
00:31:30,727 --> 00:31:32,980
Ciao, baby.

697
00:31:32,980 --> 00:31:36,357
This is Rosie Perez, how y'all
doing out there tonight?

698
00:31:36,357 --> 00:31:38,443
You enjoying the show?

699
00:31:38,443 --> 00:31:39,902
Yes, I am.

700
00:31:39,902 --> 00:31:41,571
Hello? Hello?
Am I here?

701
00:31:41,571 --> 00:31:44,574
- You're here.
- You did that so exquisitely.

702
00:31:44,574 --> 00:31:47,160
I just would like to comment
on the haircuts

703
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,287
that I'm peeping tonight.

704
00:31:49,287 --> 00:31:52,373
- Uh-huh.
- You guys use the same bowl?

705
00:31:52,373 --> 00:31:56,836
(Laughter and shouting)

706
00:31:56,836 --> 00:31:59,047
Oh, my gosh.

707
00:31:59,047 --> 00:32:02,133
Remember there was this guy
who did a poem

708
00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:04,010
about "cungalingus"
on your show,

709
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:05,845
and he dedicated it to me.

710
00:32:05,845 --> 00:32:08,514
He was saying
about the "cungalingus."

711
00:32:08,514 --> 00:32:10,683
-  Yeah.
- You don't remember that?
To me?

712
00:32:10,683 --> 00:32:12,978
- Yeah.
- He caught me totally off-guard.

713
00:32:12,978 --> 00:32:14,520
That's the best kind
of cunnilingus.

714
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,230
(Laughter)

715
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:17,899
What the--

716
00:32:17,899 --> 00:32:21,527
Damn! Stretch and Bobbito
show's incredible!

717
00:32:21,527 --> 00:32:23,654
We had a snap battle
with Lord Sear.

718
00:32:23,654 --> 00:32:26,115
I remember big pun when he had
the white doo rag

719
00:32:26,115 --> 00:32:28,159
and a white t-shirt.

720
00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,037
He looked like an overweight
nurse back then.

721
00:32:30,037 --> 00:32:33,164
Sear told Pun that he lived
on the second floor

722
00:32:33,164 --> 00:32:37,377
of a White Castle and he had
a slide goes straight down the--

723
00:32:37,377 --> 00:32:39,420
I walked in,
I had shorts on.

724
00:32:39,420 --> 00:32:42,298
The old-school shorts where it
was like they were too long.

725
00:32:42,298 --> 00:32:44,092
They looked like fake capris.

726
00:32:44,092 --> 00:32:46,386
I'm like, "Yo, Pun, what's up,"
and he's like,

727
00:32:46,386 --> 00:32:50,139
"What's up with them midget
cowboy shorts you have on?"

728
00:32:50,139 --> 00:32:52,767
The midget cowboy jeans.

729
00:32:52,767 --> 00:32:56,854
Yo, they was going at it.
Hard!

730
00:32:56,854 --> 00:32:58,773
So I was like, "Yo,
look at your forearms."

731
00:32:58,773 --> 00:33:00,608
They were all fat and hairy.

732
00:33:00,608 --> 00:33:03,569
I said his forearms look like
an overweight pitbull's stomach.

733
00:33:03,569 --> 00:33:06,072
(Laughter)

734
00:33:06,072 --> 00:33:07,740
Just with a hand.

735
00:33:07,740 --> 00:33:11,202
A hand and a pitbull's stomach
with no tail.

736
00:33:11,202 --> 00:33:13,121
I said, "Ruff."

737
00:33:13,121 --> 00:33:14,872
(Barks)

738
00:33:14,872 --> 00:33:17,166
He said, "You're so fucking fat
I could squeeze

739
00:33:17,166 --> 00:33:19,085
a jelly doughnut out
your forehead."

740
00:33:19,085 --> 00:33:21,254
Niggas was just going at it.

741
00:33:24,424 --> 00:33:27,635
It remind a lot of cats
who are right here in Harlem,

742
00:33:27,635 --> 00:33:30,179
like, what it's like when
they out on the corner

743
00:33:30,179 --> 00:33:32,306
just shooting the shit
with their homeboys,

744
00:33:32,306 --> 00:33:36,103
laughing, looking at what
somebody wearing, snapping.

745
00:33:36,103 --> 00:33:38,146
Y'all had the corner in a box.

746
00:33:38,146 --> 00:33:40,273
You'll be on in a second.

747
00:33:40,273 --> 00:33:42,942
Dude, you're on, like, now.
Dude, you're on.

748
00:33:42,942 --> 00:33:45,027
- Mr. Bobbito, my man,
I'm sorry.
- You're on.

749
00:33:45,027 --> 00:33:47,196
It's the Joe Cocker
of hip-hop.

750
00:33:47,196 --> 00:33:49,449
There was a time when you guys
used to do something

751
00:33:49,449 --> 00:33:53,286
called the Dick Olympics,
do you guys remember that?

752
00:33:53,286 --> 00:33:55,705
(Laughter)

753
00:33:55,705 --> 00:33:58,749
- No.
- You don't remember
the Dick Olympics?

754
00:33:58,749 --> 00:34:01,586
Where it was Benji and Sear
and they would talk about

755
00:34:01,586 --> 00:34:04,547
all these different type of--
I'm dead serious.

756
00:34:04,547 --> 00:34:06,340
All these different type
of olympic events

757
00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:08,468
where somebody
was using a dick.

758
00:34:08,468 --> 00:34:12,555
Like hurdling over dicks,
pole vaulting with dicks.

759
00:34:12,555 --> 00:34:15,433
- The javelin.
- The javelin.
You remember.

760
00:34:15,433 --> 00:34:17,143
Mimi: Truth be told,
as much as I love you guys,

761
00:34:17,143 --> 00:34:19,395
I wasn't really into
the humor so much.

762
00:34:19,395 --> 00:34:21,606
- Oh, my God.
- Yeah, not really.

763
00:34:21,606 --> 00:34:23,983
Press the eject button.
(Imitates spring)

764
00:34:23,983 --> 00:34:27,236
(Laughs)
A lot of boy humor.

765
00:34:27,236 --> 00:34:30,406
Zuhirah: Being a woman in the
'90s into hip-hop wasn't easy.

766
00:34:30,406 --> 00:34:34,827
The culture was so exciting
and important

767
00:34:34,827 --> 00:34:36,454
that I sort of looked
at the misogyny

768
00:34:36,454 --> 00:34:39,081
as something
that comes along with it.

769
00:34:39,081 --> 00:34:41,792
I never felt like,
"They're not talking about me."

770
00:34:41,792 --> 00:34:43,753
I always took it
somewhat personally.

771
00:34:43,753 --> 00:34:46,214
Random rappers being like,
"Come sit in my lap."

772
00:34:46,214 --> 00:34:48,925
A lot of the guests kind of
thought you were there

773
00:34:48,925 --> 00:34:51,802
for their amusement,
so, you know,

774
00:34:51,802 --> 00:34:55,097
you develop a thick skin,
but you always treated

775
00:34:55,097 --> 00:34:57,308
me and my friends respectfully

776
00:34:57,308 --> 00:35:00,019
and sort of took us under
your wings in a way,

777
00:35:00,019 --> 00:35:02,813
and so other people treated us
with respect because of that.

778
00:35:02,813 --> 00:35:05,733
What the culture did offer
sort of outweighed the bad.

779
00:35:05,733 --> 00:35:10,780
I was just such a hip-hop fan.
Like, I loved hip-hop so much.

780
00:35:10,780 --> 00:35:14,325
Just everything about it,
the music, the rhyme,

781
00:35:14,325 --> 00:35:17,203
just the energy,
I just realized you know what?

782
00:35:17,203 --> 00:35:19,789
I want to hang out at the show
and what I did specifically

783
00:35:19,789 --> 00:35:22,250
was open the door
because at the time,

784
00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:24,293
they would ring the bell,
we would hear it,

785
00:35:24,293 --> 00:35:26,712
and somebody had to go
downstairs and open the doors.

786
00:35:26,712 --> 00:35:29,924
Like, hi, welcome to the show.
We'll be with you in a minute.

787
00:35:29,924 --> 00:35:32,927
Come upstairs. Follow me.
That was literally what I did.

788
00:35:32,927 --> 00:35:35,222
If they were on the list.
If they were on the list.

789
00:35:35,222 --> 00:35:36,806
Bobbito: Please don't
come by unannounced.

790
00:35:36,806 --> 00:35:38,683
We got too many people
to deal with as it is.

791
00:35:38,683 --> 00:35:42,603
Mimi just stepped into the house
and we got some other guests.

792
00:35:42,603 --> 00:35:44,313
We expecting the Wu-Tang Clan.

793
00:35:44,313 --> 00:35:47,275
Man: Y'all was like the first
ones to really be like,

794
00:35:47,275 --> 00:35:49,777
yo, we want to see y'all,
we want to meet y'all.

795
00:35:49,777 --> 00:35:53,906
I remember going downstairs
and opening the door,

796
00:35:53,906 --> 00:35:57,159
and it was probably
about 20 guys, maybe 30.

797
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:58,619
Raekwon: We here, man,
we in the building.

798
00:35:58,619 --> 00:36:01,080
All got masks on.
Whoa, whoa.

799
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,624
Hold on, hold on, wait.
Who's on the list?

800
00:36:03,624 --> 00:36:05,251
20 of us,
we just up in there.

801
00:36:05,251 --> 00:36:07,003
Peace, everybody,
Wu-Tang Clan representing,

802
00:36:07,003 --> 00:36:08,838
baby, representing.

803
00:36:08,838 --> 00:36:12,258
Specifically it was Method Man
who just started breaking,

804
00:36:12,258 --> 00:36:14,677
screaming, we on the list,
we on the list,

805
00:36:14,677 --> 00:36:16,512
we going upstairs, move out
the way, move out the way.

806
00:36:16,512 --> 00:36:19,974
I was irate.
They violated you
and called you the b-word.

807
00:36:19,974 --> 00:36:23,894
I just told Meth,
yo, B, that's our peoples.

808
00:36:23,894 --> 00:36:26,772
Her role is to regulate
the people that come in.

809
00:36:26,772 --> 00:36:28,941
When he got on the air,
that's when he apologized.

810
00:36:28,941 --> 00:36:30,568
We want to apologize
to this girl

811
00:36:30,568 --> 00:36:32,069
that was down at the front door.

812
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:33,696
It was a little
misunderstanding,

813
00:36:33,696 --> 00:36:35,448
so I'm going to apologize
to her on the air

814
00:36:35,448 --> 00:36:37,408
and all that 'cause
she got kind of offended.

815
00:36:37,408 --> 00:36:39,118
Enough respect, baby.

816
00:36:39,118 --> 00:36:40,870
I was still pissed off, but...

817
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:42,663
Let's get him on the phone.

818
00:36:42,663 --> 00:36:45,416
1-800 Method Man.

819
00:36:45,416 --> 00:36:47,627
Hey, Method Man!
Method Man!

820
00:36:47,627 --> 00:36:50,255
Is that Method Man?
Method Man!

821
00:36:50,255 --> 00:36:53,132
I eventually had to deal
with Method Man and Wu-Tang

822
00:36:53,132 --> 00:36:55,426
just as an editor at Vibe,

823
00:36:55,426 --> 00:36:58,679
so it was always funny to me
that they became so big.

824
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:00,890
Hey! Hey!
What, what.

825
00:37:00,890 --> 00:37:04,268
I got to get it going on.
Yeah. Down the stair.

826
00:37:04,268 --> 00:37:06,312
♪ Hey, hey,
I swing funky rap routines ♪

827
00:37:06,312 --> 00:37:08,773
♪ And tap the jaws
spot you 20 points ♪

828
00:37:08,773 --> 00:37:10,316
♪ And you still can't score ♪

829
00:37:10,316 --> 00:37:12,568
♪ Fresh out the toilet,
I got my shit together ♪

830
00:37:12,568 --> 00:37:15,655
♪ When I'm good, I'm good,
when bad, I'm better ♪

831
00:37:15,655 --> 00:37:18,324
♪ All on my name
but you can't pull my file ♪

832
00:37:18,324 --> 00:37:20,993
♪ You don't know me,
and you don't know my style ♪

833
00:37:20,993 --> 00:37:23,329
♪ Remember that there like that,
there, yeah ♪

834
00:37:23,329 --> 00:37:25,790
♪ Even Grizzly Adams
couldn't bear ♪

835
00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:27,917
Ghostface Killah:
Yo, check it.

836
00:37:27,917 --> 00:37:30,836
Fresh joint from out the stash.
Yo, yo.

837
00:37:30,836 --> 00:37:32,922
♪ First of all son,
peep the arson ♪

838
00:37:32,922 --> 00:37:35,216
♪ Many brothers I be sparkin'
and bustin' mad ♪

839
00:37:35,216 --> 00:37:37,468
♪ Light inside the dark
and call me dough snatcher ♪

840
00:37:37,468 --> 00:37:39,929
♪ Just a brother for the rapture
I hang-glide ♪

841
00:37:39,929 --> 00:37:41,806
♪ Holdin' on strong,
hard to capture ♪

842
00:37:41,806 --> 00:37:43,391
♪ Extravagant,
RZA bake the track ♪

843
00:37:43,391 --> 00:37:45,059
♪ And it's militant
then I react ♪

844
00:37:45,059 --> 00:37:47,019
♪ Like a convict
and start killin' shit ♪

845
00:37:47,019 --> 00:37:49,647
♪ It's 9th chamber, you get
trapped inside my hallway ♪

846
00:37:49,647 --> 00:37:52,233
♪ You try to flee but you got
smoked by the doorway ♪

847
00:37:52,233 --> 00:37:55,069
♪ While I'll be trapped
by sounds, locked behind loops ♪

848
00:37:55,069 --> 00:37:57,530
♪ Throwin' niggas off airplanes
cause cash rules ♪

849
00:37:57,530 --> 00:38:00,199
♪ Everything around me
black as you can see ♪

850
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,827
♪ Swallow this number-one
verse like God degree ♪

851
00:38:02,827 --> 00:38:05,413
♪ And analyze my soundtrack
for satisfaction ♪

852
00:38:05,413 --> 00:38:08,916
♪ And you adapt like
a flashback chain reaction ♪

853
00:38:08,916 --> 00:38:11,544
Method Man: Can't nobody,
can't nothing come after that.

854
00:38:11,544 --> 00:38:14,130
Ghostface blew up the spot.

855
00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:16,424
Hip-hop was on KCR.

856
00:38:16,424 --> 00:38:20,469
This was unsigned masterpieces,
man.

857
00:38:20,469 --> 00:38:22,430
We listen to the demos,
me and Stretch.

858
00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:24,890
And if we like them,
then we play them on the air.

859
00:38:24,890 --> 00:38:26,726
Bonz Malone: If you could
get on the train

860
00:38:26,726 --> 00:38:29,979
and get down here in time,
we could battle right here.

861
00:38:29,979 --> 00:38:32,732
Bob I remember
having this idea

862
00:38:32,732 --> 00:38:34,650
that we would have
the demo battle.

863
00:38:34,650 --> 00:38:38,404
This is one of my most
favorite memories

864
00:38:38,404 --> 00:38:41,991
about being involved
with the show is this battle.

865
00:38:41,991 --> 00:38:46,704
The Bronx Zu versus
The Notorious B.I.G.,

866
00:38:46,704 --> 00:38:49,206
and the Bronx Zu won.

867
00:38:49,206 --> 00:38:51,292
♪ This is a recording,
this is ain't a recording ♪

868
00:38:51,292 --> 00:38:53,461
♪ Just a funky party
to defeat the boredom ♪

869
00:38:53,461 --> 00:38:55,671
♪ Lou Tan, Lou Tan
get in to my mood swing ♪

870
00:38:55,671 --> 00:38:57,923
♪ Oh, it's just my man,
just a Bronx Zu thing ♪

871
00:38:57,923 --> 00:39:02,928
That early in the show,
a Bronx or Uptown artist

872
00:39:02,928 --> 00:39:04,722
might have a home team
advantage.

873
00:39:04,722 --> 00:39:05,931
Bronx Zu:
Who's running shit?

874
00:39:05,931 --> 00:39:09,226
Men:
176th! Ho!

875
00:39:09,226 --> 00:39:12,188
He was tight.
He was tight.

876
00:39:12,188 --> 00:39:14,356
Came in here talking
about the Bronx Zu,

877
00:39:14,356 --> 00:39:15,900
how,
"They ain't better than me."

878
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:17,860
You'll hear some of it
on the tape.

879
00:39:17,860 --> 00:39:19,987
That's the weird thing
about this night is that--

880
00:39:19,987 --> 00:39:22,114
No one taped it.

881
00:39:22,114 --> 00:39:24,116
Dude, like, me and Stretch
used to tape

882
00:39:24,116 --> 00:39:26,660
at least, you know,
every other show.

883
00:39:26,660 --> 00:39:29,038
It's the craziest thing that
the most important artists

884
00:39:29,038 --> 00:39:31,207
that came through
these doors--

885
00:39:31,207 --> 00:39:33,542
y'all ain't tape it 'cause
you ain't know who Big was.

886
00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:35,377
No, we knew who Big was.

887
00:39:35,377 --> 00:39:37,713
We didn't know who he was
gonna become.

888
00:39:37,713 --> 00:39:39,757
Well,
I know who did record it.

889
00:39:39,757 --> 00:39:41,759
Let's do it.

890
00:39:41,759 --> 00:39:45,679
It ain't got the date on it.
But that's just 23 years ago.

891
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:47,223
Wow.

892
00:39:47,223 --> 00:39:50,059
Bobbito: We got Notorious B.I.G.
in the house.

893
00:39:50,059 --> 00:39:53,562
- So what's up?
- B.I.G.: Ain't nothing large.
I'm just chilling, you know.

894
00:39:53,562 --> 00:39:55,815
Bobbito: So what's up, yo?
You rolled up here.

895
00:39:55,815 --> 00:39:57,691
You know what I'm saying?
You ready to rep?

896
00:39:57,691 --> 00:39:59,360
B.I.G.: I was looking
for them Bronx Zu brothers,

897
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,903
you know what I'm saying?

898
00:40:00,903 --> 00:40:03,030
Niggas think they came off.

899
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:04,657
I just came to set
the record straight.

900
00:40:04,657 --> 00:40:06,408
(Speaking indistinctly)

901
00:40:06,408 --> 00:40:09,537
All right, B, well, yo, you here
to show and prove--

902
00:40:09,537 --> 00:40:12,499
He was 16.

903
00:40:12,499 --> 00:40:14,875
♪ Mumblin'
and whisperin' is what I hear ♪

904
00:40:14,875 --> 00:40:16,794
♪ When B .I .G. appear
on the scene ♪

905
00:40:16,794 --> 00:40:19,171
♪ Niggas get scared, why?
I'm not the stick-up man ♪

906
00:40:19,171 --> 00:40:20,714
♪ I don't want the rings
on your hand ♪

907
00:40:20,714 --> 00:40:22,467
♪ I don't understand ♪

908
00:40:22,467 --> 00:40:24,927
♪ When I come through the avenue
I must know voodoo ♪

909
00:40:24,927 --> 00:40:27,054
♪ Cause all eyes are on
you know who ♪

910
00:40:27,054 --> 00:40:29,765
♪ And my so-called friends
beg for ends for me to lend ♪

911
00:40:29,765 --> 00:40:31,767
♪ But this bankroll,
they won't spend ♪

912
00:40:31,767 --> 00:40:34,270
♪ Open your eyes and realize
ain't no sugar in my tank ♪

913
00:40:34,270 --> 00:40:36,647
♪ Out of all my friends there's
just one I want to thank ♪

914
00:40:36,647 --> 00:40:38,983
♪ My man big d taught me
a lesson that was great ♪

915
00:40:38,983 --> 00:40:41,068
♪ That good things come
to those who wait ♪

916
00:40:41,068 --> 00:40:43,237
♪ And we've waited through
the suffering and pain ♪

917
00:40:43,237 --> 00:40:45,406
♪ And bitches ride
the dick like the a-train ♪

918
00:40:45,406 --> 00:40:48,117
♪ That's why I flip
keep a burner to my hip ♪

919
00:40:48,117 --> 00:40:50,202
♪ Take a hooker to the crib,
you know she got to strip ♪

920
00:40:50,202 --> 00:40:52,580
♪ Stay dipped,
take out-of-state trips ♪

921
00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:54,915
♪ Don't drink a lot of Hennessy,
I only take a sip ♪

922
00:40:54,915 --> 00:40:56,543
♪ I'm not a paper gangster
of no sort ♪

923
00:40:56,543 --> 00:40:58,002
♪ I do smoke Newports ♪

924
00:40:58,002 --> 00:40:59,670
♪ When I get stressed
I grab my vest ♪

925
00:40:59,670 --> 00:41:01,839
♪ Damn, tried to give you
the warning sign ♪

926
00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:04,174
♪ When I said "chill,"
I wasn't saying ll's rhyme ♪

927
00:41:04,174 --> 00:41:06,385
♪ I was telling ya
not to tear up ♪

928
00:41:06,385 --> 00:41:08,429
♪ 'Cause he will rip tear up,
I'm telling you not to erupt ♪

929
00:41:08,429 --> 00:41:11,348
♪ 'Cause he's just as corrupt
as a DJ should be ♪

930
00:41:11,348 --> 00:41:13,601
♪ 50 grand,
and I'm the B.I.G. ♪

931
00:41:13,601 --> 00:41:15,769
(Laughter)
23 years in the making.

932
00:41:15,769 --> 00:41:18,397
(Shouts)
1991.

933
00:41:18,397 --> 00:41:21,025
You are the man!

934
00:41:21,025 --> 00:41:22,818
89.9 was our radio signal,

935
00:41:22,818 --> 00:41:25,404
and 89 tec 9 became
like our catchphrase,

936
00:41:25,404 --> 00:41:27,698
and the tec in that
was for techniques

937
00:41:27,698 --> 00:41:30,826
like techniques on the
turntables, skills on the mic.

938
00:41:30,826 --> 00:41:33,120
Pharoahe Monch: If you were
coming up in New York City

939
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,581
that's the way you had to go.

940
00:41:34,581 --> 00:41:36,832
It's either that
or "Da-ha, da-ha."

941
00:41:36,832 --> 00:41:39,126
(Laughter)

942
00:41:39,126 --> 00:41:41,295
♪ One nation under
this rap shit indivisible ♪

943
00:41:41,295 --> 00:41:43,297
♪ Never mess up-up
anymore ♪

944
00:41:43,297 --> 00:41:45,550
♪ Pharoahe the crit-ically
acclaimed rap professional ♪

945
00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:48,093
♪ Keeping computer digital
but hark the best be ♪

946
00:41:48,093 --> 00:41:50,095
(Laughs)
♪ This expert who could
keep niggas alert ♪

947
00:41:50,095 --> 00:41:52,181
♪ In a school for narcolepsy ♪

948
00:41:52,181 --> 00:41:54,433
♪ When I'm in a innovative state
of mind, I'm innovative ♪

949
00:41:54,433 --> 00:41:56,101
♪ Never been afraid of rocking
a microphone ♪

950
00:41:56,101 --> 00:41:58,020
♪ I'm prone to be eliminating ♪

951
00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:00,731
♪ Sing a song of six pence,
it makes sense then sing along ♪

952
00:42:00,731 --> 00:42:03,609
♪ Cling on to my nuts, if you
got guts then bring it on ♪

953
00:42:03,609 --> 00:42:05,861
(Laughter and clapping)
Stretch:
Watch out, he's coming!

954
00:42:08,322 --> 00:42:10,699
I'm clinging to his nuts!

955
00:42:10,699 --> 00:42:12,451
- Bring it on.
- 25 years!

956
00:42:12,451 --> 00:42:16,372
It was like the highlight
of hip-hop at the time

957
00:42:16,372 --> 00:42:18,040
as a lyricist,
you know what I mean?

958
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,542
And come there and freestyle

959
00:42:20,542 --> 00:42:23,295
and realize that the city

960
00:42:23,295 --> 00:42:26,924
is listening to you right now
in the moment.

961
00:42:26,924 --> 00:42:28,593
This is different
from the stage.

962
00:42:28,593 --> 00:42:30,386
This is different from your room
where you're writing

963
00:42:30,386 --> 00:42:32,137
or the lab or the basement.

964
00:42:32,137 --> 00:42:36,558
This is like broadcasting
on air lyricism.

965
00:42:36,558 --> 00:42:39,311
Just go?

966
00:42:39,311 --> 00:42:41,814
Yo, this is Large Professor,
Extra P.

967
00:42:41,814 --> 00:42:43,816
I remember asking y'all,
saying to one of y'all,

968
00:42:43,816 --> 00:42:46,402
"Yo, I'm going to bring
the drum machine.

969
00:42:46,402 --> 00:42:48,153
Yo, we should get busy,"
and it was like,

970
00:42:48,153 --> 00:42:50,155
"Yo, all right, cool,
bring it through."

971
00:42:50,155 --> 00:42:53,325
Bobbito:
Large brought up his sampler,
so guess what?

972
00:42:53,325 --> 00:42:56,621
I think peoples need
to get home right now,

973
00:42:56,621 --> 00:42:58,665
get your tape decks ready,
because we got some shit

974
00:42:58,665 --> 00:43:00,165
for you tonight,
that's word to my mother.

975
00:43:00,165 --> 00:43:02,167
What radio show does that?

976
00:43:02,167 --> 00:43:04,586
Lets a dude set up
a SP 1200

977
00:43:04,586 --> 00:43:08,173
and then has dudes rhyming
over programmed beats?

978
00:43:08,173 --> 00:43:10,050
What radio show
is doing that now?

979
00:43:10,050 --> 00:43:13,387
- Bobbito: Had you done
that before at a radio station?
- No, no.

980
00:43:13,387 --> 00:43:18,559
I don't think anyone really
had ever done that before.

981
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:19,685
My name is Bobbito.

982
00:43:19,685 --> 00:43:21,020
(Drum machine playing randomly)

983
00:43:21,020 --> 00:43:23,022
Yo, yo,
this is Stretch Armstrong.

984
00:43:23,022 --> 00:43:26,316
Stretch: Yeah, most definitely
the Stretch Armstrong.

985
00:43:26,316 --> 00:43:27,943
(Voices playing on sampler)

986
00:43:27,943 --> 00:43:30,738
That was the large p beat,
he had the sp up there.

987
00:43:30,738 --> 00:43:33,240
♪ O.C., boy how you be-- ♪

988
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,993
He was right next to me
saying this.

989
00:43:35,993 --> 00:43:37,662
♪ Niggas can keep the booyaka ♪

990
00:43:37,662 --> 00:43:39,413
♪ I call it the clod
that's anonymous ♪

991
00:43:39,413 --> 00:43:41,999
All right,
this brings back memories.

992
00:43:41,999 --> 00:43:44,711
♪ I'm reigning dominant
over niggas that's rated raw ♪

993
00:43:44,711 --> 00:43:47,755
♪ I figured they less, so hey,
takes four metaphors ♪

994
00:43:47,755 --> 00:43:50,466
♪ Peep lines out, I preach
rhymes out my larynx ♪

995
00:43:50,466 --> 00:43:53,052
♪ Use insight to invite
what I'm slammin' next ♪

996
00:43:53,052 --> 00:43:55,804
♪ Bickery, MC's
gettin' off the trickery ♪

997
00:43:55,804 --> 00:43:58,683
♪ tme will tell who will shine
like Jew-els from Tiffany's ♪

998
00:43:58,683 --> 00:44:01,435
♪ Those few who are chosen'll
shine crystal ♪

999
00:44:01,435 --> 00:44:04,188
♪ Let's go back to old slang
like a pist-al ♪

1000
00:44:04,188 --> 00:44:06,523
♪ Thou fate shall
go back to the prey ♪

1001
00:44:06,523 --> 00:44:09,318
♪ And I don't need effect
to be like echo and decay ♪

1002
00:44:09,318 --> 00:44:12,029
♪ And my skill is pure,
down deep from the root ♪

1003
00:44:12,029 --> 00:44:13,947
♪ At the same time I'll jam
a microphone ♪

1004
00:44:13,947 --> 00:44:15,741
♪ Up like soot in your pipe ♪

1005
00:44:15,741 --> 00:44:17,451
♪ My poetry shows
are right ♪

1006
00:44:17,451 --> 00:44:20,037
♪ Fuck hype from a promo
or some ill ass snipes ♪

1007
00:44:20,037 --> 00:44:22,998
♪ I go raw dog, always on
my off and defense ♪

1008
00:44:22,998 --> 00:44:25,793
♪ Workin' good with the two,
leavin' niggas in intense ♪

1009
00:44:25,793 --> 00:44:28,295
♪ If O.C. lay low
like ooh-la-la ♪

1010
00:44:28,295 --> 00:44:30,589
♪ You'll French kiss
with my fist shooting a diss ♪

1011
00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:32,508
♪ Pass me the apparatus ♪

1012
00:44:32,508 --> 00:44:34,218
♪ Let me show you how to work
a verse ♪

1013
00:44:34,218 --> 00:44:36,553
♪ The scientist,
the mad scientist will first ♪

1014
00:44:36,553 --> 00:44:39,556
♪ Give a grammatical example,
a sample of truth ♪

1015
00:44:39,556 --> 00:44:42,017
♪ Soon to be a mega legacy
for all of you ♪

1016
00:44:42,017 --> 00:44:44,520
♪ Listen the lyrical physician
is back, black ♪

1017
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,980
♪ With stacks of props
and outfox and mop ♪

1018
00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:48,690
♪ Niggas'll flop
who's in town ♪

1019
00:44:48,690 --> 00:44:50,567
♪ Defend your title,
bring it to me ♪

1020
00:44:50,567 --> 00:44:53,320
♪ The organism will bring
your rhyme time to an end ♪

1021
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,572
♪ Zone is called desert
I resurrect ♪

1022
00:44:55,572 --> 00:44:58,075
♪ Intellect surrounds
boundaries when I'm present ♪

1023
00:44:58,075 --> 00:45:00,202
♪ In Queens County still,
trying to pursue ♪

1024
00:45:00,202 --> 00:45:01,995
I don't even need
to hear no more, man.

1025
00:45:01,995 --> 00:45:05,124
Like, now I remember it.
That's crazy.

1026
00:45:05,124 --> 00:45:07,042
It was like he threw me
the rock,

1027
00:45:07,042 --> 00:45:09,711
and I almost fum--
know what I'm saying?

1028
00:45:09,711 --> 00:45:12,047
♪ Look what the night bought,
this is night court ♪

1029
00:45:12,047 --> 00:45:14,633
♪ You charged with misuse
of a mic like you're nice ♪

1030
00:45:14,633 --> 00:45:17,010
♪ Step into the o-zone ♪

1031
00:45:17,010 --> 00:45:19,596
I was nervous, and I didn't want
to mess up in front of him.

1032
00:45:19,596 --> 00:45:21,390
That was the main thing
on my mind.

1033
00:45:21,390 --> 00:45:23,392
I don't want to mess up
in front of Large Professor.

1034
00:45:23,392 --> 00:45:25,227
I'm just going to take
a bass note.

1035
00:45:25,227 --> 00:45:28,480
I was playing the bass then
just making these cave beats,

1036
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,274
and I just wanted
to play it live.

1037
00:45:30,274 --> 00:45:32,192
And that's really where I was
at my pinnacle

1038
00:45:32,192 --> 00:45:33,819
of just wanting to get busy.

1039
00:45:33,819 --> 00:45:36,488
Y'all caught me, like,
really feeling it, like,

1040
00:45:36,488 --> 00:45:39,700
yo, I'm just going to be
freestyling now and buggin'.

1041
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:43,537
Regulation status,
you know what I'm saying?
(Laughs)

1042
00:45:43,537 --> 00:45:47,291
I appreciate the art of being
able to just go off the top,

1043
00:45:47,291 --> 00:45:50,502
interacting with everybody and
saying, "We all a part of this."

1044
00:45:50,502 --> 00:45:52,880
♪ On the mcrophone,
I'm the kid plus the wiz ♪

1045
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,842
♪ Got the brother Bobbito,
I'm in like cognito ♪

1046
00:45:55,842 --> 00:45:58,510
♪ around the way, ha,
just like Carlito ♪

1047
00:45:58,510 --> 00:46:01,180
♪ Plus Stretch Armstrong,
I got the comm song ♪

1048
00:46:01,180 --> 00:46:04,308
More versus than a Kramer,
go off like a pager

1049
00:46:04,308 --> 00:46:07,686
skills uglier than Craig Mac,
in your ear, I'm the flavor.

1050
00:46:07,686 --> 00:46:10,105
My old girls say--
I'm gonna update it.

1051
00:46:10,105 --> 00:46:12,524
My old girls say,
"Boy, you got flows."

1052
00:46:12,524 --> 00:46:15,611
I'm watching the Dulls again
'cause they got D Rose.

1053
00:46:15,611 --> 00:46:19,281
A million black men
walking in one direction.

1054
00:46:19,281 --> 00:46:22,034
The cream of the planet's
resurrection.

1055
00:46:22,034 --> 00:46:24,745
I got goosebumps.

1056
00:46:24,745 --> 00:46:26,872
I'll give you the written,
and I'll give you the freestyle

1057
00:46:26,872 --> 00:46:28,582
that's like a player
that's got real game

1058
00:46:28,582 --> 00:46:30,459
that can go
to the dunk contest, too.

1059
00:46:30,459 --> 00:46:32,544
I like being able
to just say something

1060
00:46:32,544 --> 00:46:34,296
that just happened right there.

1061
00:46:34,296 --> 00:46:36,131
♪ With slur style, word,
I'm gonna kill ya ♪

1062
00:46:36,131 --> 00:46:38,133
♪ Feel ya to the cemetery ♪

1063
00:46:38,133 --> 00:46:40,802
♪ Then that's very,
'don't grab my hood ♪

1064
00:46:40,802 --> 00:46:43,013
♪ Yo, I stabbed you good,
it's how I'm rapping ♪

1065
00:46:43,013 --> 00:46:44,932
♪ Yo, I smack men in the face
like a mack do ♪

1066
00:46:44,932 --> 00:46:46,600
♪ Straight
from East Oakland ♪

1067
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,560
♪ Yo, I'm not gonna say
smoke men ♪

1068
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,354
♪ 'Cause the other MC
said it ♪

1069
00:46:50,354 --> 00:46:51,772
♪ But we didn't read it ♪

1070
00:46:51,772 --> 00:46:53,482
♪ We made it up
right here and now ♪

1071
00:46:53,482 --> 00:46:56,276
♪ WKCR, hey,
we are the MCs ♪

1072
00:46:56,276 --> 00:46:58,028
♪ And nobody tempt these ♪

1073
00:46:58,028 --> 00:47:00,239
♪ Peace to Stretch
and Bobby too ♪

1074
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,116
♪ And I'm rhyming through
your whole crew, that's true ♪

1075
00:47:03,116 --> 00:47:05,244
Dante: It's one of the craziest
freestyle sessions ever.

1076
00:47:05,244 --> 00:47:09,539
They just fucking killed it,
like killed it.

1077
00:47:09,539 --> 00:47:12,459
Just so you know, we
made it up right here.
Right here, right now.

1078
00:47:12,459 --> 00:47:14,336
I remember just fucking
taping it and listening to it

1079
00:47:14,336 --> 00:47:16,588
the next day going,
"Why am I not signing them?"

1080
00:47:16,588 --> 00:47:18,590
For us,
it was important

1081
00:47:18,590 --> 00:47:20,509
to encourage cats
to come up, rhyme.

1082
00:47:20,509 --> 00:47:22,386
Didn't matter if it was off
the top of the head, written.

1083
00:47:22,386 --> 00:47:24,429
We didn't care if you
were signed or unsigned.

1084
00:47:24,429 --> 00:47:26,682
Just create something
that's special

1085
00:47:26,682 --> 00:47:28,392
because this isn't
for the record sales,

1086
00:47:28,392 --> 00:47:29,977
this isn't for the charts.

1087
00:47:29,977 --> 00:47:31,853
This isn't for your
album-release party.

1088
00:47:31,853 --> 00:47:33,146
This is hip-hop.

1089
00:47:33,146 --> 00:47:34,899
Black thought:
One, two, one, two, okay

1090
00:47:34,899 --> 00:47:37,025
♪ No need to ask my initial ♪

1091
00:47:37,025 --> 00:47:39,736
♪ Illafifth P 5 D
most official ♪

1092
00:47:39,736 --> 00:47:42,114
♪ Rip through fraudulent
rappers like tissue ♪

1093
00:47:42,114 --> 00:47:44,783
♪ What's the whole issue?
Don't mean to diss you ♪

1094
00:47:44,783 --> 00:47:46,952
The best part of this culture
is freestyle.

1095
00:47:46,952 --> 00:47:51,123
The best part of hip-hop is
an artist being put on the spot

1096
00:47:51,123 --> 00:47:53,542
and dropping those lyrics
right then and there.

1097
00:47:53,542 --> 00:47:56,003
Through all the bullshit
and through all the politics,

1098
00:47:56,003 --> 00:47:57,713
the artists that really shine
are the ones

1099
00:47:57,713 --> 00:47:59,423
that just speak from the heart.

1100
00:47:59,423 --> 00:48:03,552
Hip-hop is the consciousness
of oppressed people.

1101
00:48:03,552 --> 00:48:07,431
Hip-hop
is the blues music

1102
00:48:07,431 --> 00:48:11,643
on a hyper-faster scale.

1103
00:48:11,643 --> 00:48:14,646
Attempting to conquer
the problems that happened

1104
00:48:14,646 --> 00:48:17,149
throughout the course
of the last week,

1105
00:48:17,149 --> 00:48:19,609
whether it was my homelessness,

1106
00:48:19,609 --> 00:48:22,612
whether it was this one
that just lost his job.

1107
00:48:22,612 --> 00:48:25,032
By the time you get
to this microphone here,

1108
00:48:25,032 --> 00:48:27,784
you want to express
how you conquered your problems,

1109
00:48:27,784 --> 00:48:29,954
grabbed your woman,
made love,

1110
00:48:29,954 --> 00:48:31,830
and came back and did it again.

1111
00:48:31,830 --> 00:48:33,915
I'm gonna play you something.
Sure.

1112
00:48:33,915 --> 00:48:36,001
Put your headphone on,
all right.

1113
00:48:38,253 --> 00:48:42,632
(Rapping indistinctly)

1114
00:48:42,632 --> 00:48:45,052
♪ Damn, it feels great
to feel the wheels rotate ♪

1115
00:48:45,052 --> 00:48:48,513
Oh-h-h-h!
♪ with the 4-5-6 ♪

1116
00:48:48,513 --> 00:48:51,016
♪ Fantastic take as I ride
through the avenue ♪

1117
00:48:51,016 --> 00:48:52,726
♪ Ooh, in the funky new ♪

1118
00:48:52,726 --> 00:48:56,188
Yo, I need a copy of this.
Yo!

1119
00:48:56,188 --> 00:48:58,231
♪ Suckas so jel
they just wanna flip ♪

1120
00:48:58,231 --> 00:49:00,776
♪ Freestylin'
in the back seat... ♪

1121
00:49:00,776 --> 00:49:03,028
♪ Broke bitches on the dick
'cause now I'm the shit ♪

1122
00:49:03,028 --> 00:49:05,572
♪ I'm grand ghetto on the mic
just havin' a fit... ♪

1123
00:49:05,572 --> 00:49:07,741
Oh, shucks.

1124
00:49:07,741 --> 00:49:09,618
Yo,
I made this up on the spot.

1125
00:49:09,618 --> 00:49:12,621
♪ ...because you ain't
no drug dealer ♪

1126
00:49:12,621 --> 00:49:14,081
Blues.

1127
00:49:14,081 --> 00:49:16,166
Those feelings were created

1128
00:49:16,166 --> 00:49:18,293
through experiences
that I acquired

1129
00:49:18,293 --> 00:49:21,338
going through such situations
in order to hustle

1130
00:49:21,338 --> 00:49:24,966
to pretty much keep going
in spite of homelessness.

1131
00:49:24,966 --> 00:49:29,054
You gotta realize there's no
such phrase as homelessness.

1132
00:49:29,054 --> 00:49:33,058
You are never less than the home
that you make for yourself.

1133
00:49:33,058 --> 00:49:34,935
Old School Ran-Dee:
I remember first
listening to you guys' show,

1134
00:49:34,935 --> 00:49:37,312
I was in Fort Bragg.
I was in the army at the time.

1135
00:49:37,312 --> 00:49:40,190
And I was getting ready
for Operation Desert Shield.

1136
00:49:40,190 --> 00:49:43,110
North Carolina back then
was like,

1137
00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:46,113
♪ Yippy-ay-ay ♪
on the radio, you know?
(Laughter)

1138
00:49:46,113 --> 00:49:47,739
I called my cousin,
I said, "Yo, man,

1139
00:49:47,739 --> 00:49:49,741
you need to send me a tape,"
and that tape circulated

1140
00:49:49,741 --> 00:49:51,493
throughout my whole unit.

1141
00:49:51,493 --> 00:49:54,329
Everybody there was like,
"Yo, my God, this is crazy."

1142
00:49:54,329 --> 00:49:56,456
You know, it was a rough day,
stuff happened,

1143
00:49:56,456 --> 00:49:58,625
people were injured,
killed,

1144
00:49:58,625 --> 00:50:00,544
I could always
just go back to my room

1145
00:50:00,544 --> 00:50:03,505
and play a tape
and return back to my room,

1146
00:50:03,505 --> 00:50:07,259
my kitchen in the Bronx,
and I would escape that.

1147
00:50:07,259 --> 00:50:09,928
You guys were an outlet,
definitely.

1148
00:50:09,928 --> 00:50:12,722
It's like family.

1149
00:50:12,722 --> 00:50:14,474
A lot of people don't deal
with that.

1150
00:50:14,474 --> 00:50:16,810
So when you have something
that can bring you home,

1151
00:50:16,810 --> 00:50:19,020
it's a big thing,
it's a big thing.

1152
00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:21,648
People have pictures,
recordings,

1153
00:50:21,648 --> 00:50:24,151
of their children
or wife or whatever.

1154
00:50:24,151 --> 00:50:26,027
I had a cassette.

1155
00:50:26,027 --> 00:50:28,738
Bobbito: That's why we
would read the letters on air

1156
00:50:28,738 --> 00:50:30,031
from the dudes inside.

1157
00:50:30,031 --> 00:50:31,450
We would constantly be told,
like,

1158
00:50:31,450 --> 00:50:34,202
"Yo, you're helping me
get through

1159
00:50:34,202 --> 00:50:37,330
and keep a piece of sanity,
a piece of outside."

1160
00:50:37,330 --> 00:50:43,129
In 1991, I was involved
in a contract murder.

1161
00:50:43,129 --> 00:50:46,132
And I got sentenced to 15 years
in federal prison.

1162
00:50:46,132 --> 00:50:49,926
They would sell walkmans
with no cassette, just radio.

1163
00:50:49,926 --> 00:50:52,637
So you got the little radio
dial on it.

1164
00:50:52,637 --> 00:50:56,016
During the times I tuned in
to the Stretch and Bobbito Show,

1165
00:50:56,016 --> 00:50:57,976
it provided me
an intimate comfort

1166
00:50:57,976 --> 00:51:01,188
to just venture into myself
to explore

1167
00:51:01,188 --> 00:51:03,315
the ranges of possibility
artistically.

1168
00:51:03,315 --> 00:51:04,733
I would write poetry,

1169
00:51:04,733 --> 00:51:06,693
and this is one of
the poems that I wrote.

1170
00:51:06,693 --> 00:51:08,653
"The diamonds in her eyes
cuts me at the glance.

1171
00:51:08,653 --> 00:51:11,031
Her feminine stance
sets the trance to begin.

1172
00:51:11,031 --> 00:51:13,366
Her skin shines with the feline
type of mesmerizing

1173
00:51:13,366 --> 00:51:15,660
kind of sublime
reflecting within the mind.

1174
00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:17,287
Flashes of her occur
too short to grasp

1175
00:51:17,287 --> 00:51:18,788
and too clear to blur.

1176
00:51:18,788 --> 00:51:20,999
The mixture of her stir
soothes my jagged edges.

1177
00:51:20,999 --> 00:51:23,543
Yes, a whisper coming in clearer
and crisper in wedges

1178
00:51:23,543 --> 00:51:26,421
between memories of
a femininity and lucidity.

1179
00:51:26,421 --> 00:51:28,548
The edges of her peaks
are layered with streaks

1180
00:51:28,548 --> 00:51:31,135
of mystifying mysteries
captivating me.

1181
00:51:31,135 --> 00:51:32,594
Her affluence is tremendous,

1182
00:51:32,594 --> 00:51:35,597
balanced by super-stupid
stpupendous sentiments.

1183
00:51:35,597 --> 00:51:37,141
The flavor of her taste

1184
00:51:37,141 --> 00:51:39,601
is the taste
of the ultimate experience.

1185
00:51:39,601 --> 00:51:44,898
This is a rhyme that I wrote
listening to this radio program.

1186
00:51:44,898 --> 00:51:47,025
(Jazz music playing)

1187
00:51:56,826 --> 00:52:00,205
Fat Joe: I was like
this big-time street guy,

1188
00:52:00,205 --> 00:52:02,791
you know, in the Bronx
and in Harlem,

1189
00:52:02,791 --> 00:52:04,501
and I'm telling everybody

1190
00:52:04,501 --> 00:52:07,337
I'm retiring
from the street business.

1191
00:52:07,337 --> 00:52:09,422
Now you got every drug dealer
coming out of jail

1192
00:52:09,422 --> 00:52:10,840
with an artist.

1193
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,551
I was the first Master P.

1194
00:52:12,551 --> 00:52:14,094
♪ I'd rather be feared
than loved ♪

1195
00:52:14,094 --> 00:52:16,054
♪ Because the fear
lasts longer ♪

1196
00:52:16,054 --> 00:52:18,682
♪ These bitch-ass niggas know we
stronger than these weaklings ♪

1197
00:52:18,682 --> 00:52:20,600
♪ Seeking for respect
that ain't there ♪

1198
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,603
♪ Knuckleheads beware
there's mad tension in the air ♪

1199
00:52:23,603 --> 00:52:25,772
That verse right there
changed my whole life.

1200
00:52:25,772 --> 00:52:27,983
The first time anybody ever
heard pun live

1201
00:52:27,983 --> 00:52:29,401
was here as well.

1202
00:52:29,401 --> 00:52:31,486
♪ So big dog
on the M-I-C ♪

1203
00:52:31,486 --> 00:52:33,363
♪ Represent
for the terror squad ♪

1204
00:52:33,363 --> 00:52:35,282
♪ Off the T-O-P ♪

1205
00:52:35,282 --> 00:52:36,950
Pun: ♪ Brothers are rappin'
like Iraq and soldiers ♪

1206
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:38,743
♪ Actin' like
they crackin' boulders ♪

1207
00:52:38,743 --> 00:52:40,870
♪ Wouldn't pack a cap gun
or attack a blowfish ♪

1208
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:42,706
♪ Always talkin' shit,
players that rather balk ♪

1209
00:52:42,706 --> 00:52:44,416
♪ Than pitch
and often counterfeit ♪

1210
00:52:44,416 --> 00:52:46,668
♪ Kings of New York
on Mr. Walken's dick ♪

1211
00:52:46,668 --> 00:52:49,337
♪ You make me sick to my stomach
you don't really want it ♪

1212
00:52:49,337 --> 00:52:51,131
♪ Riffin' like you sniffin' coke
to scare me ♪

1213
00:52:51,131 --> 00:52:52,632
♪ But you barely blunted ♪

1214
00:52:52,632 --> 00:52:54,342
♪ You really done it now,
you got me mad ♪

1215
00:52:54,342 --> 00:52:56,136
♪ Boricuas be like,
"Papi's bad," ♪

1216
00:52:56,136 --> 00:52:58,346
♪ Makin fakers caqui
when I'm droppin' math ♪

1217
00:52:58,346 --> 00:53:02,475
(Laughter,
music continues)

1218
00:53:02,475 --> 00:53:04,519
Pun, he was crazy, huh?
Yeah.

1219
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:06,354
(Fades) ♪ You don't ever wanna
clash again with big dog ♪

1220
00:53:06,354 --> 00:53:08,857
♪ The master hand
will never last ♪

1221
00:53:08,857 --> 00:53:10,650
Every day they come to me
on Twitter

1222
00:53:10,650 --> 00:53:12,819
talking about do I have
a Pun verse

1223
00:53:12,819 --> 00:53:14,238
that no one ever heard?

1224
00:53:14,238 --> 00:53:15,780
By the way, you got one.

1225
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:18,742
Now I know all Pun versus.

1226
00:53:18,742 --> 00:53:21,786
Yo, my man,
I know all Pun versus.

1227
00:53:21,786 --> 00:53:23,455
I listened to that shit
right there,

1228
00:53:23,455 --> 00:53:25,081
I was like what the fuck--
I didn't even know

1229
00:53:25,081 --> 00:53:27,000
I was in the background,
I was like, "Yo,

1230
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,794
I never even heard this shit.
This nigga's killing it."

1231
00:53:29,794 --> 00:53:33,299
In Miami, they got this festival
they call Calle Ocho

1232
00:53:33,299 --> 00:53:35,675
I hear this little kid
like four years old,

1233
00:53:35,675 --> 00:53:38,053
and some people
are selling t-shirts.

1234
00:53:38,053 --> 00:53:40,264
And the little kid
is tapping his father,

1235
00:53:40,264 --> 00:53:44,310
he says, "Papi, papi
that's the legend.

1236
00:53:44,310 --> 00:53:47,771
That's the legend,"
and I'm looking,

1237
00:53:47,771 --> 00:53:50,815
and he's pointing
at a fucking Pun shirt.

1238
00:53:50,815 --> 00:53:52,901
I was just like fucked up.

1239
00:53:52,901 --> 00:53:55,487
I was like, yo,
that shit crazy, man.

1240
00:53:55,487 --> 00:53:57,364
He's a legend, man.
He started here.

1241
00:54:00,367 --> 00:54:03,244
Taste:
That shit is two hours old
for the Bobbito show only.

1242
00:54:03,244 --> 00:54:06,539
What's up?
Yo, the Bobbito show, though?

1243
00:54:06,539 --> 00:54:08,541
I mean Stretch Armstrong
and Bobbito.

1244
00:54:08,541 --> 00:54:11,711
Yo, what's your name?
Stretch? Nah.

1245
00:54:11,711 --> 00:54:14,255
It was Stretch's show,

1246
00:54:14,255 --> 00:54:17,676
but people kept calling it
"The Bobbito Show."

1247
00:54:17,676 --> 00:54:22,430
I wanna say what's up
to my man Bobbito.

1248
00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:23,765
He's up in here.

1249
00:54:23,765 --> 00:54:26,017
So unless you live
under a rock,

1250
00:54:26,017 --> 00:54:28,353
you know what I'm saying,
you've seen or heard

1251
00:54:28,353 --> 00:54:31,315
the flavor from my man Bobbito
you know what I'm saying,

1252
00:54:31,315 --> 00:54:34,025
and his DJ Stretch Armstrong
on the radio.

1253
00:54:34,025 --> 00:54:36,111
Stretch: Naturally,
this didn't sit well with me.

1254
00:54:36,111 --> 00:54:38,488
If neither of us is getting
any recognition, that's fine.

1255
00:54:38,488 --> 00:54:40,448
But if props
are being handed out,

1256
00:54:40,448 --> 00:54:42,117
I want some of them.

1257
00:54:42,117 --> 00:54:44,994
We became "The Stretch Armstrong
Babbito show,"

1258
00:54:44,994 --> 00:54:46,663
and then about six months
after that,

1259
00:54:46,663 --> 00:54:49,124
it became "The Stretch Armstrong
Show Hosted by Bobbito"

1260
00:54:49,124 --> 00:54:50,959
'cause there
was a lot of confusion.

1261
00:54:50,959 --> 00:54:54,713
This is "The Stretch Armstrong
Show," my name is Bobbito-o!

1262
00:54:54,713 --> 00:54:57,257
It's definitely our show,
but he gets top billing.

1263
00:54:57,257 --> 00:55:00,468
In hip-hop, the DJ is the most
important component.

1264
00:55:00,468 --> 00:55:04,139
(Record scratching)

1265
00:55:04,139 --> 00:55:07,392
Yo, awe were like these dope
DJs,
practice every day

1266
00:55:07,392 --> 00:55:09,185
really innovating
the whole style

1267
00:55:09,185 --> 00:55:11,229
of making music with turntables

1268
00:55:11,229 --> 00:55:13,064
as opposed
to just playing a song,

1269
00:55:13,064 --> 00:55:16,484
we were in this really
small subculture

1270
00:55:16,484 --> 00:55:18,737
of DJ nerds that knew
about us,

1271
00:55:18,737 --> 00:55:20,947
but the rest of New York
really didn't know.

1272
00:55:20,947 --> 00:55:23,032
(Records scratching)

1273
00:55:23,032 --> 00:55:25,243
(Crowd shouts)

1274
00:55:33,710 --> 00:55:37,297
(Crowd shouts)

1275
00:55:37,297 --> 00:55:39,215
( Cheers and applause )

1276
00:55:42,218 --> 00:55:44,471
So we get to WKCR,
we walking in,

1277
00:55:44,471 --> 00:55:47,223
and it was just dope because
it's like "I'm here, yo."

1278
00:55:47,223 --> 00:55:50,477
I've been listening to the show
every Thursday religiously,

1279
00:55:50,477 --> 00:55:52,812
and now I'm not home listening.

1280
00:55:52,812 --> 00:55:55,607
Like, I'm here at the show

1281
00:55:55,607 --> 00:55:57,692
and someone's
gonna listen to me,

1282
00:55:57,692 --> 00:55:59,903
and someone's like
with their cassette tape

1283
00:55:59,903 --> 00:56:02,113
about to press record and play.

1284
00:56:02,113 --> 00:56:03,823
And it was
just the illest feeling.

1285
00:56:03,823 --> 00:56:06,201
We were just so ready
to get on the turntables

1286
00:56:06,201 --> 00:56:08,453
and just get busy.

1287
00:56:08,453 --> 00:56:11,080
(Records scratching)

1288
00:56:35,104 --> 00:56:38,483
(All shouting and cheering)

1289
00:56:38,483 --> 00:56:41,569
These were cassette tapes
that were being recorded,

1290
00:56:41,569 --> 00:56:44,614
so someone in New York
that had a friend in L.A.

1291
00:56:44,614 --> 00:56:46,741
Was dubbing it, mailing it.

1292
00:56:46,741 --> 00:56:48,910
Talib: Those tapes,
analog tapes,

1293
00:56:48,910 --> 00:56:50,745
made it all over the world.

1294
00:56:50,745 --> 00:56:53,414
Somebody in Sweden or Amsterdam
or Japan could tell you about

1295
00:56:53,414 --> 00:56:55,416
something that happened
on Stretch and Bob last week.

1296
00:56:55,416 --> 00:56:57,585
It was like you guys created
your own Internet

1297
00:56:57,585 --> 00:56:59,212
before there was one.

1298
00:56:59,212 --> 00:57:02,715
Rob: We went from there
to like touring the world

1299
00:57:02,715 --> 00:57:06,928
working with groups
like Aerosmith, Linkin Park,

1300
00:57:06,928 --> 00:57:10,265
appearing in GAP commercials,
and it's just so ill

1301
00:57:10,265 --> 00:57:13,017
when you think about
just our humble beginnings

1302
00:57:13,017 --> 00:57:16,437
and how for us,
being on the radio

1303
00:57:16,437 --> 00:57:18,857
was like the end all,
be all to, like, exposure.

1304
00:57:22,819 --> 00:57:25,405
I had a kid call up one night

1305
00:57:25,405 --> 00:57:27,407
and tell me
that he shot somebody.

1306
00:57:27,407 --> 00:57:30,827
I picked up the phone,
and he was like,

1307
00:57:30,827 --> 00:57:32,871
"Yo," like, "What do I do?"

1308
00:57:32,871 --> 00:57:34,622
And I talked him through it.

1309
00:57:34,622 --> 00:57:37,375
There was another letter
that I received

1310
00:57:37,375 --> 00:57:40,003
one time from New Jersey
where the kid was like,

1311
00:57:40,003 --> 00:57:42,589
"Yo, I'm Puerto Rican.

1312
00:57:42,589 --> 00:57:47,343
There's no one in my town
that's graduated from college.

1313
00:57:47,343 --> 00:57:48,928
I really look up to you.

1314
00:57:48,928 --> 00:57:51,347
You mentioned on the air
that you play basketball.

1315
00:57:51,347 --> 00:57:53,308
You graduated from Wesleyan.

1316
00:57:53,308 --> 00:57:54,767
You don't smoke.
You don't drink."

1317
00:57:54,767 --> 00:57:58,438
When he wrote that,
I was like, oh, snap, like,

1318
00:57:58,438 --> 00:58:00,440
there's a little bit deeper
responsibility

1319
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,317
to being a public figure now.

1320
00:58:02,317 --> 00:58:05,862
We're creating a platform
to change people's lives.

1321
00:58:05,862 --> 00:58:08,156
I'm trying not to suck
y'all off or nothing right now,

1322
00:58:08,156 --> 00:58:10,533
but motherfuckers, really,
you know, we, like,

1323
00:58:10,533 --> 00:58:13,494
really respected and idolized
what y'all were doing

1324
00:58:13,494 --> 00:58:15,496
because we used to sit
on the west coast

1325
00:58:15,496 --> 00:58:17,415
scratching our heads like,
"What are these guys doing?

1326
00:58:17,415 --> 00:58:19,500
Are we doing
what we're doing correctly?"

1327
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:22,545
I say it helped inspire up
in many ways

1328
00:58:22,545 --> 00:58:25,381
just to be brave and not
be afraid to play artists

1329
00:58:25,381 --> 00:58:28,468
who you know probably
are only gonna appeal

1330
00:58:28,468 --> 00:58:30,595
to, like, 50 people,
but they're dope.

1331
00:58:30,595 --> 00:58:32,221
So dope should be heard.

1332
00:58:32,221 --> 00:58:33,848
Bobbito:
Introduce yourself, yo.

1333
00:58:33,848 --> 00:58:36,935
Nas: Yo, this is the big
motherfuckin Illmatic nas.

1334
00:58:36,935 --> 00:58:38,937
Know what I mean?

1335
00:58:38,937 --> 00:58:41,731
Yeah, the album getting ready
to come out in January.

1336
00:58:41,731 --> 00:58:44,859
The name of that is "Illmatic,"
know what I'm saying?

1337
00:58:44,859 --> 00:58:48,404
Wow, I'm going to Bobbito
Stretch Armstrong Show.

1338
00:58:48,404 --> 00:58:50,031
I made it.

1339
00:58:50,031 --> 00:58:52,033
By far, "Illmatic"
was the most anticipated

1340
00:58:52,033 --> 00:58:54,786
album of the decade.

1341
00:58:54,786 --> 00:58:57,664
Cats were fiending
for the release.

1342
00:58:57,664 --> 00:58:59,583
♪ The smooth criminal
on beat breaks ♪

1343
00:58:59,583 --> 00:59:02,418
♪ Never put me in your box
if your shit eats tapes ♪

1344
00:59:02,418 --> 00:59:05,254
You wound up playing
like the world premiere

1345
00:59:05,254 --> 00:59:07,173
of that night.

1346
00:59:07,173 --> 00:59:09,676
You world premiered--
you remember what track?

1347
00:59:09,676 --> 00:59:11,344
I don't remember shit.

1348
00:59:11,344 --> 00:59:14,263
♪ Nas will rock well
it ain't hard to tell ♪

1349
00:59:14,263 --> 00:59:16,265
(Repeating)
♪ Nas Nas Nas... ♪

1350
00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:25,566
At that point in time,

1351
00:59:25,566 --> 00:59:28,403
your show was
the most important show.

1352
00:59:28,403 --> 00:59:29,988
In the world.

1353
00:59:29,988 --> 00:59:33,700
I wrote a lot of my first album
listening to your show.

1354
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:35,868
And when you would play a beat,
I would dub it.

1355
00:59:35,868 --> 00:59:38,079
I remember being
behind this board

1356
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:40,456
and Stretch
a little reluctantly

1357
00:59:40,456 --> 00:59:42,875
passing the headphones to Nas
being like, "Yo,

1358
00:59:42,875 --> 00:59:45,169
what do you think of this beat
to rhyme over?"

1359
00:59:45,169 --> 00:59:46,963
I don't even think you told him
it was your beat.

1360
00:59:46,963 --> 00:59:50,425
No, I didn't, of course not.
Why would I do that?

1361
00:59:50,425 --> 00:59:52,802
"Yo, yo, yo,
it's my beat, man."

1362
00:59:52,802 --> 00:59:55,346
But then nas was like
bobbing his head.

1363
00:59:55,346 --> 00:59:57,641
He was like, "Yeah,
I'll rhyme over that."

1364
00:59:57,641 --> 00:59:59,475
And I remember
your face lit up.

1365
00:59:59,475 --> 01:00:01,102
You were like--
that's when you were like,

1366
01:00:01,102 --> 01:00:04,147
"That's my beat."
(Laughter)

1367
01:00:04,147 --> 01:00:05,565
Nas:
♪ How should I start this? ♪

1368
01:00:05,565 --> 01:00:07,734
What beat is this?

1369
01:00:07,734 --> 01:00:11,612
♪ To send, grab the microphone,
and my rhymes'll win ♪

1370
01:00:11,612 --> 01:00:14,032
♪ Wheel of fortune
spin around ♪

1371
01:00:14,032 --> 01:00:16,075
♪ Check it out,
I'm not a rap clown ♪

1372
01:00:16,075 --> 01:00:19,620
♪ Get smacked down by the
fuckin' 4-pound in your dome ♪

1373
01:00:19,620 --> 01:00:21,665
♪ Hit you with
the nick-plate chrome ♪

1374
01:00:21,665 --> 01:00:23,100
♪ Queensbridge,
that's my motherfuckin' home ♪

1375
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:26,544
♪ Off the top of my head,
yo, I'm a blunt head ♪

1376
01:00:26,544 --> 01:00:28,629
♪ Police,
police want a nigga dead ♪

1377
01:00:28,629 --> 01:00:30,965
There was no down the road.

1378
01:00:30,965 --> 01:00:34,510
There was no lanes really open
for this next generation.

1379
01:00:34,510 --> 01:00:36,804
It wasn't promised
that I would make it.

1380
01:00:36,804 --> 01:00:40,266
I see you guys as like
the ones that just like

1381
01:00:40,266 --> 01:00:43,102
threw me out there, like,
"Here, let's go."

1382
01:00:43,102 --> 01:00:45,313
♪ Check it out now,
one for the money ♪

1383
01:00:45,313 --> 01:00:46,981
♪ Two for pussy
and foreign cars ♪

1384
01:00:46,981 --> 01:00:49,484
♪ Three for alizé niggaz
deceased or behind bars ♪

1385
01:00:49,484 --> 01:00:51,069
♪ I rap divine gods
check the prognosis ♪

1386
01:00:51,069 --> 01:00:52,653
♪ Is it real or showbiz? ♪

1387
01:00:52,653 --> 01:00:54,698
♪ My window faces shootouts,
drug overdoses ♪

1388
01:00:54,698 --> 01:00:56,616
♪ Live amongst no roses,
only the drama ♪

1389
01:00:56,616 --> 01:00:58,367
♪ For real a nickel-plate
is my fate ♪

1390
01:00:58,367 --> 01:01:00,495
♪ My medicine is the
ganja here's my basis ♪

1391
01:01:00,495 --> 01:01:02,413
♪ My razor embraces
many faces ♪

1392
01:01:02,413 --> 01:01:04,916
♪ Your telephone blowin' black
stitches or fat shoelaces ♪

1393
01:01:04,916 --> 01:01:07,752
♪ Peoples are petro ♪
♪ dramatic automatic
fo'-fo' ♪

1394
01:01:07,752 --> 01:01:10,421
♪ I let blow and back down po-po
when I'm vexed so ♪

1395
01:01:10,421 --> 01:01:12,215
♪ My pen taps the paper
then my brain's blank ♪

1396
01:01:12,215 --> 01:01:13,883
♪ I see dark streets ♪

1397
01:01:13,883 --> 01:01:15,719
♪ Hustlin' brothers
who keep the same rank ♪

1398
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:17,887
♪ Pumpin' for something,
some will prosper, some fail ♪

1399
01:01:17,887 --> 01:01:19,765
♪ Judges hangin' niggas,
uncorrect bails ♪

1400
01:01:19,765 --> 01:01:21,808
♪ For direct sales
my intellect prevails ♪

1401
01:01:21,808 --> 01:01:23,684
♪ From a hangin' cross
with nails ♪

1402
01:01:23,684 --> 01:01:26,270
♪ I reinforce the frail,
with lyrics that's real ♪

1403
01:01:26,270 --> 01:01:27,563
♪ Word to Christ,
the disciple of streets ♪

1404
01:01:27,563 --> 01:01:29,398
♪ Trifle on beats
but chill ♪

1405
01:01:29,398 --> 01:01:32,360
♪ Bless the microphone
and say peace ♪

1406
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,820
You still make beats?

1407
01:01:33,820 --> 01:01:35,488
(Stretch laughs)

1408
01:01:35,488 --> 01:01:39,826
So why don't you show us
some of your tapes?

1409
01:01:39,826 --> 01:01:43,371
Explain, uh--
show us what's in your box.

1410
01:01:43,371 --> 01:01:45,581
This is the night Big L
and Jay Z went up,

1411
01:01:45,581 --> 01:01:49,627
and it's actually both sides
because the tape ended

1412
01:01:49,627 --> 01:01:51,254
in the middle of one
of Big L's verses,

1413
01:01:51,254 --> 01:01:53,089
then had to flip the tape over.

1414
01:01:53,089 --> 01:01:57,135
Big L: Check it out.
Check it out.
Bobbito: Yeah.

1415
01:01:57,135 --> 01:01:58,804
Uh-oh.

1416
01:01:58,804 --> 01:02:00,638
You wanna put your man on, too?

1417
01:02:00,638 --> 01:02:02,348
You can do it together.

1418
01:02:02,348 --> 01:02:04,392
Big L: I'm gonna set it off
like this, check it out.

1419
01:02:04,392 --> 01:02:06,894
♪ Yo, check it,
yo I got slugs for snitches... ♪

1420
01:02:06,894 --> 01:02:08,813
I listened to this
the other day.

1421
01:02:08,813 --> 01:02:11,899
♪ Putting thugs in ditches
when my trigger finger itches ♪

1422
01:02:11,899 --> 01:02:13,651
♪ I got a rep
that make police jet ♪

1423
01:02:13,651 --> 01:02:16,279
♪ Known to get a priest wet
I never beg for pussy ♪

1424
01:02:16,279 --> 01:02:19,323
♪ Like Keith sweat
is Big L slow, hell no ♪

1425
01:02:19,323 --> 01:02:20,867
♪ Bitches get fucked
on a roof ♪

1426
01:02:20,867 --> 01:02:22,702
♪ When I ain't got
no hotel dough ♪

1427
01:02:22,702 --> 01:02:24,245
♪ I'm known
for yokin' jacks ♪

1428
01:02:24,245 --> 01:02:25,872
♪ And beating 'em
with smoking gats ♪

1429
01:02:25,872 --> 01:02:27,833
♪ Leaving token blacks
with broken backs ♪

1430
01:02:27,833 --> 01:02:29,876
♪ And open caps
so with that bullshit ♪

1431
01:02:29,876 --> 01:02:31,919
♪ Step to the rear, son,
the last thing you want ♪

1432
01:02:31,919 --> 01:02:33,921
♪ With Big L is a fair one ♪

1433
01:02:33,921 --> 01:02:36,800
♪ 'Cause in a street brawl
I strike men like lightning ♪

1434
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,301
♪ You seen what happened
in my last fight, friend ♪

1435
01:02:38,301 --> 01:02:39,845
♪ A'ight then ♪
♪ A'ight then ♪

1436
01:02:39,845 --> 01:02:41,721
♪ All through high school
I had braids ♪

1437
01:02:41,721 --> 01:02:43,931
♪ I kept mad blades
stabbing teachers to death ♪

1438
01:02:43,931 --> 01:02:45,433
♪ That gave me bad grades ♪

1439
01:02:45,433 --> 01:02:47,101
♪ I cook the mic like
a beef steak ♪

1440
01:02:47,101 --> 01:02:48,936
♪ 'Cause my technique's great ♪

1441
01:02:48,936 --> 01:02:50,730
♪ And I'm the nigga police
hate in each state ♪

1442
01:02:50,730 --> 01:02:52,273
♪ 'Cause I'm the
neighborhood lamper ♪

1443
01:02:52,273 --> 01:02:54,358
♪ Punk brother vamper
fuck around ♪

1444
01:02:54,358 --> 01:02:56,527
♪ You'll find my silk boxers
in your mother's hamper ♪

1445
01:02:56,527 --> 01:02:59,030
♪ Cops drop when my glock
makes a pow sound ♪

1446
01:02:59,030 --> 01:03:01,115
♪ I'm from a wild town
you know my style clown ♪

1447
01:03:01,115 --> 01:03:03,701
♪ So bow down... ♪
I was playing this
the other day.

1448
01:03:03,701 --> 01:03:05,328
Turn on the mega bass.

1449
01:03:05,328 --> 01:03:07,580
♪ I got my man Jay-Z here ♪

1450
01:03:07,580 --> 01:03:10,082
♪ Brothers can beg and borrow,
still feel sorrow ♪

1451
01:03:10,082 --> 01:03:12,210
♪ When Jay, Z like Zorro,
get in that ass ♪

1452
01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:13,920
♪ Better luck tomorrow,
I'm too much nigga ♪

1453
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,713
♪ So never should you rush ♪

1454
01:03:15,713 --> 01:03:18,674
♪ You need to slow down
or get your ass tore down ♪

1455
01:03:18,674 --> 01:03:20,635
♪ Check it out,
I'm too cocky to stop me ♪

1456
01:03:20,635 --> 01:03:22,261
♪ You gotta kill me
and when I'm gone ♪

1457
01:03:22,261 --> 01:03:24,180
♪ You can still feel me,
on the real, B... ♪

1458
01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:26,140
That's a pretty good pocket,
Jay Z.

1459
01:03:26,140 --> 01:03:29,101
♪ Even if they won't let me
in heaven, I raise hell ♪

1460
01:03:29,101 --> 01:03:30,561
♪ Till it's heaven recognize ♪

1461
01:03:30,561 --> 01:03:32,647
♪ The black cat
with the nine lives ♪

1462
01:03:32,647 --> 01:03:35,399
♪ Get up off me nigga,
it's bad luck to cross me ♪

1463
01:03:35,399 --> 01:03:38,027
♪ I'm popping crystal,
shooting game like missiles ♪

1464
01:03:38,027 --> 01:03:40,821
♪ As projected all ho's
affected by this style ♪

1465
01:03:40,821 --> 01:03:43,407
♪ I mack like Goldie,
go back like the oldie ♪

1466
01:03:43,407 --> 01:03:46,494
♪ But the goody pulling
RandB bitches wearing hoodies ♪

1467
01:03:46,494 --> 01:03:48,287
♪ They don't be knowin'
the way I be flowing ♪

1468
01:03:48,287 --> 01:03:49,956
♪ When I be going ♪

1469
01:03:49,956 --> 01:03:52,250
♪ I be running the track
like Jesse Owens ♪

1470
01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:54,669
♪ Enticing when slicing through
tracks you're screaming ♪

1471
01:03:54,669 --> 01:03:57,463
♪ Jesus Christ he's back
and God knows he can rap ♪

1472
01:03:57,463 --> 01:04:00,383
♪ Me and l put rhythm on the map
so give him his dap and me ♪

1473
01:04:00,383 --> 01:04:01,759
♪ I just take mine,
gimme those, ♪

1474
01:04:01,759 --> 01:04:03,636
♪ Gimme this, gimme that,
fuck that ♪

1475
01:04:03,636 --> 01:04:05,930
You'll never get this verse
but on Stretch and Bobbito.

1476
01:04:05,930 --> 01:04:09,725
I raise hell till it's heaven.
Pretty good verses.

1477
01:04:09,725 --> 01:04:11,852
(Laughter)

1478
01:04:11,852 --> 01:04:14,230
You know, I didn't realize
that that was a thing

1479
01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:16,482
until, like,
people kept bringing it up

1480
01:04:16,482 --> 01:04:17,775
and, like,
talking about it,

1481
01:04:17,775 --> 01:04:20,236
and I was like,
yeah, the Big L thing.

1482
01:04:20,236 --> 01:04:22,321
It's like, no,
the Big L thing--

1483
01:04:22,321 --> 01:04:23,948
which I didn't even realize
was happening

1484
01:04:23,948 --> 01:04:26,993
till years later
we were in one of those moments

1485
01:04:26,993 --> 01:04:29,954
that people would talk about
in hip-hop lore.

1486
01:04:29,954 --> 01:04:33,541
I was just happy about,
you know, I'm on the radio.

1487
01:04:33,541 --> 01:04:36,210
The fact that you still got
these tapes is fantastic, man.

1488
01:04:36,210 --> 01:04:37,670
Where do you keep 'em?

1489
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:40,506
- Nah, I got 'em in--
- Just in your bag?

1490
01:04:40,506 --> 01:04:45,469
Bobbito: Right here on WKCR
89.9 FM in Nueva York.

1491
01:04:45,469 --> 01:04:48,014
And we got my man Ease
and Case 2.

1492
01:04:48,014 --> 01:04:50,099
- Yo, yo!
- Yo, yo! Yo, Ease!

1493
01:04:50,099 --> 01:04:51,809
Yo, you know
I'm chilling, baby!

1494
01:04:51,809 --> 01:04:53,144
- No, no, you're not "cheeling."
- Are you "cheeling"?

1495
01:04:53,144 --> 01:04:56,022
- I'm "cheeling."
- "Cheeling."

1496
01:04:56,022 --> 01:04:58,190
I'm "cheeling."
Going wild up in here.

1497
01:04:58,190 --> 01:05:00,359
He's like chilling on ice.

1498
01:05:00,359 --> 01:05:02,653
Do you have the vicious style,
homeboy?

1499
01:05:02,653 --> 01:05:04,864
I have the best.
That's more than the vicious.

1500
01:05:04,864 --> 01:05:07,951
I'm the super-duper nutritious.
Of what you say, the vicious.

1501
01:05:07,951 --> 01:05:10,828
There is nothing better
than my deli-icious.

1502
01:05:10,828 --> 01:05:13,873
Your deli-icious.
That's right,
super deli-icious.

1503
01:05:13,873 --> 01:05:15,458
Without the tuna fish.

1504
01:05:15,458 --> 01:05:18,127
I appreciate you
coming through.

1505
01:05:18,127 --> 01:05:20,004
For you, you're my man,
come on, Bobbito.

1506
01:05:20,004 --> 01:05:22,256
You know how we get down.

1507
01:05:22,256 --> 01:05:25,009
Back in the days when I was up
north and on the island.

1508
01:05:25,009 --> 01:05:27,303
I used to y'all gettin' illy
on the station,

1509
01:05:27,303 --> 01:05:29,722
so I'd say one day I'd be home,
in the free cypher,

1510
01:05:29,722 --> 01:05:31,307
I'd get my turn.

1511
01:05:31,307 --> 01:05:34,393
I am the creator of graf.
Know what I'm saying?

1512
01:05:34,393 --> 01:05:36,645
My brother Phase 2 was one
of the first that did it

1513
01:05:36,645 --> 01:05:40,399
from back in the '70s,
'71 and '72.

1514
01:05:40,399 --> 01:05:42,318
And from what he elevated
into one thing,

1515
01:05:42,318 --> 01:05:44,362
I elevated into another,
and I made it

1516
01:05:44,362 --> 01:05:46,072
to what it's modernly
known as today.

1517
01:05:46,072 --> 01:05:48,699
I want people to know
when I made the trademark

1518
01:05:48,699 --> 01:05:53,079
King of Style back in 1976,
I am that true person.

1519
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:55,498
- King of Style, not Style--
- King of what?

1520
01:05:55,498 --> 01:05:58,501
King of Style.
You already know.

1521
01:05:58,501 --> 01:06:00,169
Louis 167: And I'd roll around
with some quarters,

1522
01:06:00,169 --> 01:06:01,837
yo, pull over,
I'm on the pay phone,

1523
01:06:01,837 --> 01:06:03,714
like, we're bombing
in Brooklyn right now.

1524
01:06:03,714 --> 01:06:05,424
Give us a shout-out.

1525
01:06:05,424 --> 01:06:07,510
Bobbito: Also want to give
a shout-out to my man Louis 167.

1526
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:11,138
He wants to give a cookie puss
shout-out to Stretch Armstrong.

1527
01:06:11,138 --> 01:06:14,433
Being able to call up and
actually talk to someone,

1528
01:06:14,433 --> 01:06:16,727
you know, get that shout-out,
it was real.

1529
01:06:16,727 --> 01:06:19,480
Riggs: At the source, my job
was to document the culture.

1530
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,148
You guys were the Bible.

1531
01:06:21,148 --> 01:06:22,983
Raekwon: When it came to knowing
the right sneakers,

1532
01:06:22,983 --> 01:06:25,444
going to the right spots,
the right jams,

1533
01:06:25,444 --> 01:06:29,115
the latest news,
we had to have disciples

1534
01:06:29,115 --> 01:06:31,700
that really knew hip-hop
talk about that,

1535
01:06:31,700 --> 01:06:33,202
and y'all
was the face of that.

1536
01:06:33,202 --> 01:06:35,121
(Indistinct conversations)

1537
01:06:38,541 --> 01:06:40,251
Bobbito:
We gotta be here in peace.

1538
01:06:40,251 --> 01:06:42,795
The last time we did this,
everything was straight.

1539
01:06:42,795 --> 01:06:45,131
Let's all be in this together
and cool out, man.

1540
01:06:45,131 --> 01:06:48,217
Yo, Stretch, cut the music!
Yo, yo, chill, man, what's up?

1541
01:06:48,217 --> 01:06:49,927
(Woman screams)

1542
01:06:49,927 --> 01:06:53,848
Security to the back
of the club, please!

1543
01:06:53,848 --> 01:06:57,268
Pharoahe Monch: That's hip-hop,
that air and that energy.

1544
01:06:57,268 --> 01:06:59,687
It is kind of dangerous
to go to a hip-hop show,

1545
01:06:59,687 --> 01:07:02,314
and it was also,
"Don't step on my sneakers."

1546
01:07:02,314 --> 01:07:03,774
It was danger.

1547
01:07:03,774 --> 01:07:06,944
It was a violent thing
to it as well.

1548
01:07:06,944 --> 01:07:08,571
A certain type of vibe
or song,

1549
01:07:08,571 --> 01:07:10,573
could set something off.

1550
01:07:10,573 --> 01:07:13,325
My life has been threatened
by artists, you know,

1551
01:07:13,325 --> 01:07:15,161
that I'll leave unnamed.

1552
01:07:15,161 --> 01:07:17,830
Stretch has been stepped
to a couple of times.

1553
01:07:17,830 --> 01:07:20,124
You know, so even
by the hip-hop community,

1554
01:07:20,124 --> 01:07:22,585
you know, we've had
our little squabbles,

1555
01:07:22,585 --> 01:07:29,425
you know, which, um, I tend
not to really, uh, dwell upon.

1556
01:07:29,425 --> 01:07:32,887
It's negativity, there's no need
to speak on it

1557
01:07:32,887 --> 01:07:34,346
um...

1558
01:07:34,346 --> 01:07:36,557
(Farts)

1559
01:07:36,557 --> 01:07:39,268
B-Real:
When we won the Billboard
Awards, we were surprised.

1560
01:07:39,268 --> 01:07:41,770
We were stoked about it.
We didn't expect it.

1561
01:07:41,770 --> 01:07:43,772
You stepped up to the mic,
and you made the point

1562
01:07:43,772 --> 01:07:47,276
of saying, "I just wanna
say right now

1563
01:07:47,276 --> 01:07:50,529
on national TV that Cypress Hill
would not have happened

1564
01:07:50,529 --> 01:07:54,325
if it wasn't for New York DJs
Funkmaster Flex,

1565
01:07:54,325 --> 01:07:56,327
Stretch Armstrong,
and Kid Capris."

1566
01:07:56,327 --> 01:07:58,204
When I heard about that
after the fact,

1567
01:07:58,204 --> 01:08:00,998
I was dancing around the
apartment for like three days.

1568
01:08:00,998 --> 01:08:04,752
Fat Joe:
Ar-r-r-senio hall!

1569
01:08:04,752 --> 01:08:10,132
(Lively music playing)

1570
01:08:10,132 --> 01:08:13,344
We went to Arsenio Hall,
and that's at his prime.

1571
01:08:13,344 --> 01:08:15,763
Like, that was
when he was poppin'.

1572
01:08:15,763 --> 01:08:18,766
I was the musical guest,
the sit-in DJ for the week.

1573
01:08:18,766 --> 01:08:20,184
I knew you were there.

1574
01:08:20,184 --> 01:08:22,061
Backstage, I see Arsenio.

1575
01:08:22,061 --> 01:08:25,189
I was like, yo, Fat Joe,
new rapper from the Bronx,

1576
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:26,899
he's on Relativity,
he's in the audience.

1577
01:08:26,899 --> 01:08:28,776
Just want to let you know,
you wanna shout him out.

1578
01:08:28,776 --> 01:08:30,486
I didn't know
he was gonna bring you out.

1579
01:08:30,486 --> 01:08:32,321
This is Stretch Armstrong.
Anybody from New York?

1580
01:08:32,321 --> 01:08:35,241
( Cheers and applause )
Yeah. Yeah.

1581
01:08:38,161 --> 01:08:41,914
Yo, that's, uh, that's Fat Joe.
What's up, man?

1582
01:08:41,914 --> 01:08:44,375
( Cheers and applause )
What's up?

1583
01:08:44,375 --> 01:08:47,211
Shout out, Fat Joe!
Come on, give it up!

1584
01:08:47,211 --> 01:08:48,671
What's up?

1585
01:08:48,671 --> 01:08:49,880
Arsenio Hall!

1586
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,883
- Yo. Yo. Yo.
- Yo!

1587
01:08:52,883 --> 01:08:55,094
He was like, "We got a guy
in the house, Fat Joe."

1588
01:08:55,094 --> 01:08:56,971
- I'm like, "What the fuck?"
- Yeah.

1589
01:08:56,971 --> 01:09:00,599
I went in the studio audience,
wait on line to see Arsenio.

1590
01:09:00,599 --> 01:09:03,727
As a fan, that was the biggest
shit in the world.

1591
01:09:03,727 --> 01:09:08,190
Forget it, I might have fucking
bust 72 nuts.

1592
01:09:08,190 --> 01:09:10,818
I gotta say what's up to
my main man, Arsenio Hall, man.

1593
01:09:10,818 --> 01:09:12,778
(Laughter and hooting)

1594
01:09:12,778 --> 01:09:14,697
That's my main man.

1595
01:09:14,697 --> 01:09:16,824
Stretch: This the first time
you been up here

1596
01:09:16,824 --> 01:09:18,742
- since we were on the show?
- Yeah, yeah.
(Laughs)

1597
01:09:18,742 --> 01:09:20,661
(Men speaking indistinctly)

1598
01:09:23,163 --> 01:09:25,749
Yo Joe we gonna cut you off
cause we wanna get to...

1599
01:09:25,749 --> 01:09:27,668
♪ New Jack,
steppin' in the area ♪

1600
01:09:27,668 --> 01:09:30,296
♪ Kind of reminds me of Eddie
Murphy, Coming to America ♪

1601
01:09:30,296 --> 01:09:33,507
Rosie: I was perceived to
always be on the cutting edge.

1602
01:09:33,507 --> 01:09:36,219
You know, back in L.A.,
they thought I was a genius.

1603
01:09:36,219 --> 01:09:38,887
And I would tell them, no,
it's Stretch and Bobbito,

1604
01:09:38,887 --> 01:09:40,848
and you guys were just
doing it for fun.

1605
01:09:40,848 --> 01:09:43,058
You know, whether
you were doing for props--

1606
01:09:43,058 --> 01:09:45,477
I know on that radio station
you weren't doing it for money.

1607
01:09:45,477 --> 01:09:49,356
Oh! (Laughs)

1608
01:09:49,356 --> 01:09:51,275
Talk about no budget.

1609
01:09:51,275 --> 01:09:54,111
(Rap music playing,
shouting)

1610
01:09:56,655 --> 01:10:00,534
Bobbito: In 1996, HOT 97
invites us to be on the air.

1611
01:10:00,534 --> 01:10:02,911
That's the number one commercial
radio station in New York.

1612
01:10:02,911 --> 01:10:07,541
Q-Tip: Really wanna congratulate
you guys on going to HOT 97.

1613
01:10:07,541 --> 01:10:10,336
(Laughter)
Bobbito: Thank you.

1614
01:10:10,336 --> 01:10:12,297
(Backbeat playing)

1615
01:10:14,757 --> 01:10:18,303
♪ Stretch Armstrong
12 dawn son let's get it on ♪

1616
01:10:18,303 --> 01:10:20,721
♪ Tobacco Cuban shit
straight from Castro ♪

1617
01:10:20,721 --> 01:10:23,557
♪ E-bliss, glamorous,
move cautious ♪

1618
01:10:23,557 --> 01:10:25,851
♪ Jose Luis puff la in a leaf ♪

1619
01:10:25,851 --> 01:10:28,896
♪ Golden teeth with Bobbito
Cuban nino ♪

1620
01:10:28,896 --> 01:10:31,357
♪ Sunday, same day
as the tunnel day ♪

1621
01:10:31,357 --> 01:10:36,945
I wondered how you would adjust
to having to not curse.

1622
01:10:36,945 --> 01:10:39,573
This is a big company.
It's a different kind of animal.

1623
01:10:39,573 --> 01:10:42,201
Jay Z: Brooklyn, huh.
Marcy, what?

1624
01:10:42,201 --> 01:10:43,786
Represent.

1625
01:10:43,786 --> 01:10:45,871
I'll try not to curse
on this one.

1626
01:10:45,871 --> 01:10:47,332
On the other show,
y'all let me go.

1627
01:10:47,332 --> 01:10:48,832
I ain't gonna lie.

1628
01:10:48,832 --> 01:10:51,001
Bobbito: We got a red light
on this one.

1629
01:10:51,001 --> 01:10:52,836
Oh, this was when
y'all couldn't curse.

1630
01:10:52,836 --> 01:10:55,381
Y'all start blowing up?
(Laughs)

1631
01:10:55,381 --> 01:10:58,217
You're on like big radio now?
Yeah.

1632
01:10:58,217 --> 01:10:59,635
Stretch: I always
had aspired to be

1633
01:10:59,635 --> 01:11:02,429
as recognized a DJ as possible,
and I felt

1634
01:11:02,429 --> 01:11:05,182
if I could get onto HOT 97,
I could champion good music.

1635
01:11:05,182 --> 01:11:07,310
I knew there were new ears.

1636
01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:09,478
Bobbito:
Hot was odd at first

1637
01:11:09,478 --> 01:11:11,772
because there was a lot of
resistance from our audience,

1638
01:11:11,772 --> 01:11:13,732
our die-hard
Thursday night audience

1639
01:11:13,732 --> 01:11:15,901
who were like, yo,
they're our secret.

1640
01:11:15,901 --> 01:11:19,279
I began to see
a possible demise

1641
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:21,532
because whenever you see
corporations

1642
01:11:21,532 --> 01:11:24,243
get their hands on anything,
they pervert it,

1643
01:11:24,243 --> 01:11:25,786
and this was a perversion.

1644
01:11:25,786 --> 01:11:27,372
Bobbito: The fact that we
were gonna get

1645
01:11:27,372 --> 01:11:29,540
on a bigger platform,
a better time slot,

1646
01:11:29,540 --> 01:11:31,291
it crossed people funny styles.

1647
01:11:31,291 --> 01:11:33,502
When you guys went and moved
over to HOT 97,

1648
01:11:33,502 --> 01:11:36,422
which to me was
the epicenter of evil,

1649
01:11:36,422 --> 01:11:38,048
it broke my heart.

1650
01:11:38,048 --> 01:11:41,260
The first thing I did was
I just wrote this long rant.

1651
01:11:41,260 --> 01:11:44,138
So Stretch and Bob, personally,
I don't think that it's fair

1652
01:11:44,138 --> 01:11:48,100
that all these fucking
guidos and hoodlums

1653
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:51,103
who think they
are hip-hop heads

1654
01:11:51,103 --> 01:11:53,564
don't know the first thing
regarding the art of DJing

1655
01:11:53,564 --> 01:11:56,401
as well their lack of interest
in hip-hop to such an extent

1656
01:11:56,401 --> 01:11:59,486
that they are too lazy to stay
up until 5:00 am.

1657
01:11:59,486 --> 01:12:01,572
I have nothing against HOT 97

1658
01:12:01,572 --> 01:12:03,741
but something
against your decision.

1659
01:12:03,741 --> 01:12:05,659
I'm shaking my head
in discontent

1660
01:12:05,659 --> 01:12:07,995
of such a corporate whore
such as yourself.

1661
01:12:07,995 --> 01:12:09,788
(Laughter)

1662
01:12:09,788 --> 01:12:12,416
Bobbito: People had this idea
that if you were in hip-hop

1663
01:12:12,416 --> 01:12:16,211
on camera or on radio,
you were making big-time money.

1664
01:12:16,211 --> 01:12:17,755
We got on HOT 97,

1665
01:12:17,755 --> 01:12:20,048
and now we get paid to do
something that we love,

1666
01:12:20,048 --> 01:12:23,010
but even if we weren't,
we would still be here, and--

1667
01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:26,722
plus the paychecks are--
they're not whoppers.

1668
01:12:26,722 --> 01:12:28,807
(Laughter)

1669
01:12:28,807 --> 01:12:32,478
I think people confused
our move to HOT

1670
01:12:32,478 --> 01:12:36,774
as it being part of
the destruction of our show.

1671
01:12:36,774 --> 01:12:40,944
I think the music
from '96 to '98

1672
01:12:40,944 --> 01:12:42,613
played a bigger role in that.

1673
01:12:42,613 --> 01:12:46,158
(Hip-hop music playing)

1674
01:12:46,158 --> 01:12:48,368
We were trying our best
to still present

1675
01:12:48,368 --> 01:12:51,163
the best quality program
for two hours on HOT

1676
01:12:51,163 --> 01:12:54,958
and four hours on KCR,
but we were only good--

1677
01:12:54,958 --> 01:12:57,753
as good as what
the music could be.

1678
01:12:57,753 --> 01:13:00,881
Eminem: Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
keep the same beat.

1679
01:13:00,881 --> 01:13:03,759
Keep the same beat.
Keep the same beat.

1680
01:13:03,759 --> 01:13:06,429
Yes.
It goes like this, yo.

1681
01:13:06,429 --> 01:13:09,097
♪ My attitude is worse
than NWA's was ♪

1682
01:13:09,097 --> 01:13:10,849
♪ I'll battle you
over stupid shit ♪

1683
01:13:10,849 --> 01:13:12,601
♪ And diss people who ain't
have shit to do with it ♪

1684
01:13:12,601 --> 01:13:14,269
♪ Like Cool J does ♪

1685
01:13:14,269 --> 01:13:16,647
♪ You see me standin'
outside of your building ♪

1686
01:13:16,647 --> 01:13:18,982
♪ Screaming Puffy is good but
Slim Shady is for the children ♪

1687
01:13:18,982 --> 01:13:20,651
♪ I look at my life
in a new light ♪

1688
01:13:20,651 --> 01:13:22,986
♪ Fuck it, give me two mics,
I write songs for me ♪

1689
01:13:22,986 --> 01:13:25,405
♪ You probably
hear me rap half-hearted ♪

1690
01:13:25,405 --> 01:13:27,157
♪ 'Cause I don't
like rap anyway ♪

1691
01:13:27,157 --> 01:13:29,284
♪ I'm just trying to get
my porno career started ♪

1692
01:13:29,284 --> 01:13:31,286
For me to even be able
to go to New York

1693
01:13:31,286 --> 01:13:33,163
was, like,
just mind-blowing.

1694
01:13:33,163 --> 01:13:35,458
Coming from Detroit, we always
have felt like underdogs,

1695
01:13:35,458 --> 01:13:37,876
and Stretch and Bobbito,
that was our dream.

1696
01:13:37,876 --> 01:13:42,339
The fact that we had a chance
to be on it was so crazy.

1697
01:13:42,339 --> 01:13:45,884
Bobbito: Em coincided
with the end of an era

1698
01:13:45,884 --> 01:13:47,427
for college radio,
underground radio

1699
01:13:47,427 --> 01:13:50,138
being like the incubator
and feeder

1700
01:13:50,138 --> 01:13:52,307
to commercial rap success.

1701
01:13:52,307 --> 01:13:55,018
That was certainly
a highlight and a boost

1702
01:13:55,018 --> 01:13:58,772
for not only obviously
my career and everything

1703
01:13:58,772 --> 01:14:00,232
that was happening at that time

1704
01:14:00,232 --> 01:14:01,817
but my self-esteem
and everything.

1705
01:14:01,817 --> 01:14:04,528
You know what I'm saying?
It was like, yo, we--

1706
01:14:04,528 --> 01:14:06,947
it felt like we made it,
like this was it.

1707
01:14:06,947 --> 01:14:09,283
♪ Mama, don't you cry,
your son is too far-gone ♪

1708
01:14:09,283 --> 01:14:11,827
♪ I'm so high I don't even
know what label I'm on ♪

1709
01:14:11,827 --> 01:14:14,497
♪ I'm fucked up, I feel just
like an overworked plumber ♪

1710
01:14:14,497 --> 01:14:17,249
♪ I'm sick of this shit, what's
Jack Kevorkian's phone number? ♪

1711
01:14:17,249 --> 01:14:19,668
What?

1712
01:14:19,668 --> 01:14:22,254
That era was the last
of the underground artists

1713
01:14:22,254 --> 01:14:24,756
that could be commercial 'cause
we were fully prepared.

1714
01:14:24,756 --> 01:14:27,593
I rapped with Big L
and rapped with LL Cool J

1715
01:14:27,593 --> 01:14:30,387
and Busta Rhymes, I rapped
alongside of these guys,

1716
01:14:30,387 --> 01:14:32,306
so it was like sparring
and boxing.

1717
01:14:32,306 --> 01:14:36,810
When I was ready for my closeup,
there was no stopping me.

1718
01:14:36,810 --> 01:14:38,687
With the introduction
of the Internet,

1719
01:14:38,687 --> 01:14:40,147
there is no rite of passage.

1720
01:14:40,147 --> 01:14:42,024
Everybody just throw things
on there,

1721
01:14:42,024 --> 01:14:44,026
and that's why you guys were
so important as gatekeepers.

1722
01:14:44,026 --> 01:14:46,987
There's a curation to that
process that's really missing.

1723
01:14:46,987 --> 01:14:49,364
Talib: If there's no community
for the passing

1724
01:14:49,364 --> 01:14:52,242
and sharing of ideas,
the art is gonna wither and die.

1725
01:14:52,242 --> 01:14:54,579
Stretch: I kind of attribute
the beginning of the end

1726
01:14:54,579 --> 01:14:57,456
of our show to me
losing the passion

1727
01:14:57,456 --> 01:14:59,708
that I had for the music.

1728
01:14:59,708 --> 01:15:02,836
It's hard to be one of
the torch bearers for hip-hop

1729
01:15:02,836 --> 01:15:04,671
and then start to feel like

1730
01:15:04,671 --> 01:15:07,049
you don't even really
love this shit anymore.

1731
01:15:07,049 --> 01:15:09,134
As my commitment
to the show was waning,

1732
01:15:09,134 --> 01:15:12,346
Bobbito filled in that void
by playing more music,

1733
01:15:12,346 --> 01:15:16,266
playing more demos and then
eventually actually DJing.

1734
01:15:16,266 --> 01:15:18,060
Stretch Boogie's
not showed up yet,

1735
01:15:18,060 --> 01:15:20,228
but, uh,
this is Kool Bob Love.

1736
01:15:20,228 --> 01:15:22,105
(Rap music playing)

1737
01:15:26,818 --> 01:15:28,528
Bobbito: There was
a constant, like,

1738
01:15:28,528 --> 01:15:30,573
I don't know what's going on
with this dude.

1739
01:15:30,573 --> 01:15:34,159
I can't completely rely on him.
He started not showing up.

1740
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:36,995
I'm exhausted.
I'm just not gonna go.

1741
01:15:36,995 --> 01:15:40,165
You take the good with the bad.
He was unreliable.

1742
01:15:40,165 --> 01:15:42,627
The question, how do you tell
your wife you love her

1743
01:15:42,627 --> 01:15:44,211
but you're not in love
with her?

1744
01:15:44,211 --> 01:15:46,213
I loved Stretch in the '90s.

1745
01:15:46,213 --> 01:15:48,090
I didn't hire Bobbito
to do the show.

1746
01:15:48,090 --> 01:15:50,842
We started it together,
and it became this great thing

1747
01:15:50,842 --> 01:15:53,679
that was great because of what
we both brought to the table.

1748
01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:56,765
I didn't like what Bob was
doing, but I couldn't fire him.

1749
01:15:56,765 --> 01:15:59,017
I would intentionally
play records that I knew

1750
01:15:59,017 --> 01:16:01,603
Bob would be annoyed by,
and he would do the same thing.

1751
01:16:01,603 --> 01:16:04,272
We had this music war
on the radio.

1752
01:16:04,272 --> 01:16:07,651
Ladies and gentlemen,
it is thug Thursday.

1753
01:16:07,651 --> 01:16:10,988
Thug Thursdays.
We got Big Gus.

1754
01:16:10,988 --> 01:16:12,406
Thug Thursday.

1755
01:16:12,406 --> 01:16:15,033
Explain what-- what--

1756
01:16:15,033 --> 01:16:17,160
(stammering)

1757
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,872
I understand Bob's beef with
some of the music I was playing

1758
01:16:20,872 --> 01:16:23,208
topically and lyrically,
it was thuggish.

1759
01:16:23,208 --> 01:16:24,876
♪ Eruptin',
plug bustin' ♪

1760
01:16:24,876 --> 01:16:26,920
♪ All fat MC's
that be tryin' to test ♪

1761
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,589
♪ But my Smith and Wes glock
splays rapidly ♪

1762
01:16:29,589 --> 01:16:31,216
♪ Yo,
how rapidly do it spray? ♪

1763
01:16:31,216 --> 01:16:33,051
♪ Ay yo,
it's like rapid-fire glocks ♪

1764
01:16:33,051 --> 01:16:34,678
♪ My shit don't stop ♪

1765
01:16:34,678 --> 01:16:38,598
Lord Sear: Bob was bringing in
like weird lyrical MCs.

1766
01:16:38,598 --> 01:16:40,434
You want to abuse this beat?

1767
01:16:40,434 --> 01:16:44,312
I like how, I like pow.
Out with the freestyle.

1768
01:16:44,312 --> 01:16:47,149
You're off like a whole mile
killing me this killer.

1769
01:16:47,149 --> 01:16:48,984
I'm iller than Barney Fife,
Barney Rubble

1770
01:16:48,984 --> 01:16:50,986
plus Barney Miller,
even that purple motherfucker.

1771
01:16:50,986 --> 01:16:52,821
I ran circles around
a motherfucker.

1772
01:16:52,821 --> 01:16:54,489
Wear out the grass
in your ass--

1773
01:16:54,489 --> 01:16:57,702
(Stammering)

1774
01:16:57,702 --> 01:16:59,244
Yo, yo.

1775
01:16:59,244 --> 01:17:01,913
Lord Sear:
It was just too lyrical, yo.

1776
01:17:01,913 --> 01:17:04,541
Whoa, may I have
an excedrin?

1777
01:17:04,541 --> 01:17:06,543
Stretch: Lord Sear,
he straddled the fence.

1778
01:17:06,543 --> 01:17:09,254
If Bob and I were salty
with each other,

1779
01:17:09,254 --> 01:17:11,548
it really helped
having Sear around.

1780
01:17:11,548 --> 01:17:15,469
I remember I used to make fun
of you, shut the fuck up.

1781
01:17:15,469 --> 01:17:18,972
Shut the f-- and I'd be like,
Bob, I mean,

1782
01:17:18,972 --> 01:17:21,892
listen to the beat,
just listen.

1783
01:17:21,892 --> 01:17:25,937
My lyrical content in fours--
much fours-- of s'mores--

1784
01:17:25,937 --> 01:17:28,523
I'd be like, Bob, listen.

1785
01:17:28,523 --> 01:17:31,902
Stretch: It led to a really
passive-aggressive situation

1786
01:17:31,902 --> 01:17:33,696
I would say
on both of our parts.

1787
01:17:33,696 --> 01:17:36,490
Bobbito: He would come up
but he wouldn't greet me.

1788
01:17:36,490 --> 01:17:38,992
He wouldn't talk to me
until we turned the mic on.

1789
01:17:38,992 --> 01:17:41,912
Stretch: We never addressed what
was going on between us.

1790
01:17:41,912 --> 01:17:43,789
In my head, I'm like, "Yo, B,
how you gonna walk in here,

1791
01:17:43,789 --> 01:17:47,125
you're late," now we get
on the mic, it's fake.

1792
01:17:47,125 --> 01:17:49,712
Like, everything is cool,
but everything isn't cool.

1793
01:17:49,712 --> 01:17:51,755
(Jazz music playing)

1794
01:17:51,755 --> 01:17:54,007
Fat Joe:
It was ground zero for hip-hop,

1795
01:17:54,007 --> 01:17:56,676
so I was like, yo,
how the fuck they gonna leave?

1796
01:17:56,676 --> 01:17:58,095
What happened?

1797
01:17:58,095 --> 01:18:00,514
We were on air here at 97
on a Sunday.

1798
01:18:00,514 --> 01:18:03,141
Stretch:
Dealing with this thick tension
between us in which

1799
01:18:03,141 --> 01:18:05,560
we were really not even treating
each other like friends.

1800
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,354
And at 1:00 am
when our show finished.

1801
01:18:07,354 --> 01:18:09,606
Stretch: Bobbito came up to me
and basically broke the ice

1802
01:18:09,606 --> 01:18:12,400
- and said, yo--
- Bobbito: Doesn't seem like
you wanna do the show

1803
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,195
- with me anymore.
- You're not happy.
I'm not happy.

1804
01:18:15,195 --> 01:18:17,155
Bobbito:
Do the show by yourself.
It's all good.

1805
01:18:17,155 --> 01:18:19,574
You wanna do HOT 97?
You can have it.

1806
01:18:19,574 --> 01:18:23,370
- I ain't trying to hold you back.
- As far as KCR,
we can alternate week to week.

1807
01:18:23,370 --> 01:18:25,539
- It's cool.
- Cool?

1808
01:18:25,539 --> 01:18:27,207
Cool.

1809
01:18:27,207 --> 01:18:30,753
To hear that there
might have been problems

1810
01:18:30,753 --> 01:18:35,549
or tension or issues
and that the show was ending...

1811
01:18:35,549 --> 01:18:36,967
It was heartbreaking.

1812
01:18:36,967 --> 01:18:39,594
There was no check
and balance anymore.

1813
01:18:39,594 --> 01:18:42,806
You know, I was upset with y'all
when y'all left the show

1814
01:18:42,806 --> 01:18:46,935
because you probably felt--
why did y'all leave the show?

1815
01:18:46,935 --> 01:18:48,895
Bobbito: By the mid '90s

1816
01:18:48,895 --> 01:18:51,857
I felt like a lot of stuff
that Stretch was playing,

1817
01:18:51,857 --> 01:18:54,901
it didn't speak to me

1818
01:18:54,901 --> 01:18:56,820
because I didn't care
about the topic

1819
01:18:56,820 --> 01:18:58,572
'cause I was paying attention
to the lyrics.

1820
01:18:58,572 --> 01:19:00,574
I'll just try to be different.

1821
01:19:00,574 --> 01:19:02,784
At least what they were saying
wasn't offensive to me

1822
01:19:02,784 --> 01:19:05,287
and some of the listeners
that I had

1823
01:19:05,287 --> 01:19:07,831
that were more
socially conscious.

1824
01:19:07,831 --> 01:19:09,332
That sucks.

1825
01:19:09,332 --> 01:19:11,376
Stretch: I was always much more
beat-centric.

1826
01:19:11,376 --> 01:19:13,837
The topics and lyrics
was almost secondary to me.

1827
01:19:13,837 --> 01:19:15,630
The best records sonically,

1828
01:19:15,630 --> 01:19:18,508
the ones made by the best
producers were topically

1829
01:19:18,508 --> 01:19:20,927
and lyrically derivative,
antisocial,

1830
01:19:20,927 --> 01:19:24,014
even offensive, they were
a far cry from the records

1831
01:19:24,014 --> 01:19:27,184
that we both loved in '90,
'91, '92.

1832
01:19:27,184 --> 01:19:32,022
By '96, '97, my ability
to fill an entire show

1833
01:19:32,022 --> 01:19:36,193
with music I loved started being
more and more challenging.

1834
01:19:36,193 --> 01:19:38,862
In '98, '99,
I was kind of lost.

1835
01:19:38,862 --> 01:19:40,238
I was completely uninspired,

1836
01:19:40,238 --> 01:19:42,449
could not find music
that I loved.

1837
01:19:42,449 --> 01:19:45,076
That's when I knew for me
it was time to call it quits.

1838
01:19:45,076 --> 01:19:46,995
(Jazz music fades)

1839
01:19:52,792 --> 01:19:56,296
Ramona: I used to have this man
who used to come and do my lawn.

1840
01:19:56,296 --> 01:19:58,757
One day, I received
a box from Bob.

1841
01:19:58,757 --> 01:20:01,009
He seen the name "Bobbito,"
and he says,

1842
01:20:01,009 --> 01:20:04,847
"You-- Bobbito
is sending you stuff?"

1843
01:20:04,847 --> 01:20:08,516
I says, "Yeah, that's my son."
He goes, "no way!

1844
01:20:08,516 --> 01:20:12,520
When I was incarcerated,
that was the light of the day.

1845
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,689
Every Thursday,
we used to stay up

1846
01:20:14,689 --> 01:20:17,067
and listen to Bobbito
and Stretch Armstrong."

1847
01:20:17,067 --> 01:20:20,237
He was so excited.
He got me and hugged me.

1848
01:20:20,237 --> 01:20:24,115
Like, if I was you, and then
he did my lawn for free.

1849
01:20:24,115 --> 01:20:26,368
I went to buy
on Broadway someplace,

1850
01:20:26,368 --> 01:20:28,995
some sneakers, and there
are a couple dudes,

1851
01:20:28,995 --> 01:20:31,831
I'm seeing they're really having
a very difficult time finding

1852
01:20:31,831 --> 01:20:34,251
sneakers because they are
so busy talking about music.

1853
01:20:34,251 --> 01:20:36,962
So I said, "You know
Stretch Armstrong?"

1854
01:20:36,962 --> 01:20:40,340
And said,
"Oh, Stretch, my man."

1855
01:20:40,340 --> 01:20:42,509
They said, "Can't be."

1856
01:20:42,509 --> 01:20:45,971
I said, "No, he's my son."

1857
01:20:45,971 --> 01:20:47,722
And some of them were Polish.

1858
01:20:47,722 --> 01:20:50,893
And then I said, "And Stretch
is partly Polish."

1859
01:20:50,893 --> 01:20:54,604
"Wow, wow," he just like
jumped to the ceiling.

1860
01:20:54,604 --> 01:20:58,441
As parents were so proud
of you guys.

1861
01:20:58,441 --> 01:21:00,485
You know,
I praise you both

1862
01:21:00,485 --> 01:21:03,863
for what you have done
for our community.

1863
01:21:13,958 --> 01:21:16,001
Stretch, I don't think we talked
for a couple years.

1864
01:21:16,001 --> 01:21:19,045
I really don't remember,
but there was like

1865
01:21:19,045 --> 01:21:21,172
a clear, like--
cooling.

1866
01:21:21,172 --> 01:21:24,927
Yeah, a cooling down of the--

1867
01:21:26,136 --> 01:21:27,679
Bobbito:
Stretchy!

1868
01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:29,556
Boobie!

1869
01:21:29,556 --> 01:21:31,474
(Indistinct conversations)

1870
01:21:40,900 --> 01:21:44,487
This is the Stretch Armstrong
and Bobbito reunion.

1871
01:21:44,487 --> 01:21:46,823
If you don't know,
it's 89.9 FM.

1872
01:21:46,823 --> 01:21:49,034
So this is actually
the 20th anniversary

1873
01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:52,537
of us doing a show--
let's do a round of applause.

1874
01:21:52,537 --> 01:21:56,207
First time.
First time, you know?

1875
01:21:56,207 --> 01:21:58,961
When I proposed that show
and I arranged it,

1876
01:21:58,961 --> 01:22:01,755
- you were down,
you were like whatever--
- Yeah, oh, yeah.

1877
01:22:01,755 --> 01:22:04,007
We're doing the show.
Sear's in, I'm in.

1878
01:22:04,007 --> 01:22:07,093
You're like, "I'm down with it,
but you know,

1879
01:22:07,093 --> 01:22:09,137
let's just do 1:00 to 3:00,"
I'm like, "No, no."

1880
01:22:09,137 --> 01:22:12,057
(Shouting and laughter)

1881
01:22:12,057 --> 01:22:14,768
"Let's just do 1:00 to 3:00."
I'm like you know what?

1882
01:22:14,768 --> 01:22:17,437
You can go home, me and Sear
are gonna go till 5:00.

1883
01:22:17,437 --> 01:22:20,315
3:00 comes around,
you're like--

1884
01:22:20,315 --> 01:22:22,734
4:00 comes around, 5:00.

1885
01:22:22,734 --> 01:22:24,444
We asked the station manager
can we keep going?

1886
01:22:24,444 --> 01:22:26,237
We went till 6:00.
You were there the whole time.

1887
01:22:26,237 --> 01:22:30,325
Bobbito: My head space,
like, I could feel 1991.

1888
01:22:30,325 --> 01:22:33,203
(Chattering, laughter)
(Repeating) Yo-yo-yo-yo...

1889
01:22:37,540 --> 01:22:40,168
Biggie Smalls came onto our show
before he was signed,

1890
01:22:40,168 --> 01:22:44,464
but years later,
he saw you on the sidewalk.

1891
01:22:44,464 --> 01:22:46,966
Stretch: And I see taking refuge
from the rain

1892
01:22:46,966 --> 01:22:49,219
cease and big in a doorway,

1893
01:22:49,219 --> 01:22:51,179
and they see me
crossing the street,

1894
01:22:51,179 --> 01:22:55,683
and as I'm like 10 feet away,
Big goes, "Yo-yo-yo-yo-yo..."

1895
01:22:55,683 --> 01:22:58,978
That's 95,
so I'm like, wow.

1896
01:22:58,978 --> 01:23:01,065
He's still listening.
That's crazy.

1897
01:23:01,065 --> 01:23:02,941
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.

1898
01:23:02,941 --> 01:23:04,776
He got over it.

1899
01:23:21,126 --> 01:23:24,087
Nobody was rich yet
or nothing like that.

1900
01:23:24,087 --> 01:23:25,964
So nobody had an attitude.

1901
01:23:25,964 --> 01:23:28,383
You put Jay Z to wait
in the hallway for 30 minutes,

1902
01:23:28,383 --> 01:23:30,927
he waited for 30 minutes,
then he came in here

1903
01:23:30,927 --> 01:23:32,846
and rapped his ass off
for free.

1904
01:23:32,846 --> 01:23:37,183
That was the first spark of just
getting that recognition.

1905
01:23:37,183 --> 01:23:39,477
From there,
things start happening.

1906
01:23:39,477 --> 01:23:42,480
Bobbito: You got a new joint out
we should talk about real quick.

1907
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:44,315
Stretch: I'm about to throw
both of those on.

1908
01:23:44,315 --> 01:23:47,402
Bobbito: Is it available
in the stores for people to buy,

1909
01:23:47,402 --> 01:23:50,530
this independent joint?
Jay Z: Yeah, yeah,
it's in some stores,

1910
01:23:50,530 --> 01:23:52,615
but once we lock
this distribution thing down,

1911
01:23:52,615 --> 01:23:55,243
it's gonna be in all the stores.
It's called In My Lifetime.

1912
01:23:55,243 --> 01:23:56,828
Bobbito: On what label?

1913
01:23:56,828 --> 01:23:58,913
- Roc-A-Feller Records.
- Roc-A-Feller Records.

1914
01:23:58,913 --> 01:24:00,748
Jay Z:
It's doing real good.

1915
01:24:00,748 --> 01:24:02,709
Bobbito: Support Jay Z.
He's one of the originators.

1916
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:04,377
Jay Z: Yeah,
yeah, I do that.

1917
01:24:04,377 --> 01:24:06,088
Bobbito: Come on, baby.

1918
01:24:06,088 --> 01:24:08,840
Yo, play the Nas freestyle.
That's my favorite.

1919
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:13,136
Nobody talk to me right now.
I wanna listen to this.

1920
01:24:13,136 --> 01:24:15,805
Nas: ♪ Nasty Nas
conducts a raw note ♪

1921
01:24:15,805 --> 01:24:18,057
♪ My vocal chords
can repel a sore throat ♪

1922
01:24:18,057 --> 01:24:20,477
♪ My domain is like
Dracula's castle ♪

1923
01:24:20,477 --> 01:24:23,146
♪ Rhymes are psychic,
brain cells a hassle ♪

1924
01:24:23,146 --> 01:24:25,315
♪ I provoke your instinct
not to think ♪

1925
01:24:25,315 --> 01:24:28,193
♪ Enter your brain and drain
till your mind is blank ♪

1926
01:24:28,193 --> 01:24:32,114
♪ My microphone... is on,
and that's my word is bond ♪

1927
01:24:32,114 --> 01:24:34,240
I just wanna say L
was a real cool dude.

1928
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,077
He was actually
ridiculously quiet.

1929
01:24:38,077 --> 01:24:41,414
A lot of people don't realize
what a just laid-back cat--

1930
01:24:41,414 --> 01:24:44,209
'cause, you know, he was so
outlandish with his rhymes.

1931
01:24:44,209 --> 01:24:46,002
Big L: ♪ My crew be delivering
hot lead ♪

1932
01:24:46,002 --> 01:24:47,879
♪ When gats are clenched
rappers I jack and lynch ♪

1933
01:24:47,879 --> 01:24:49,631
♪ Nobody can fuck
with the way I be killing ♪

1934
01:24:49,631 --> 01:24:51,883
♪ The shit in rap events
Big L is the nigga you expect ♪

1935
01:24:51,883 --> 01:24:54,010
♪ To catch wreck
on any cassette deck ♪

1936
01:24:54,010 --> 01:24:56,095
♪ I'm so ahead of my time,
my parents haven't met yet ♪

1937
01:24:56,095 --> 01:24:58,473
Jewlz: He literally lived
the MC shit

1938
01:24:58,473 --> 01:25:01,392
where we could be cool
but once we get in that booth,

1939
01:25:01,392 --> 01:25:03,353
fuck you, fuck you.

1940
01:25:03,353 --> 01:25:05,355
I'm trying
to tear your head off.

1941
01:25:05,355 --> 01:25:07,732
That what was l lived to do.

1942
01:25:07,732 --> 01:25:10,818
(Jazz music plays)

1943
01:25:10,818 --> 01:25:13,571
It makes people wonder
what could have been.

1944
01:25:13,571 --> 01:25:17,325
Here it is, this somewhat
virtually unknown artist

1945
01:25:17,325 --> 01:25:19,118
giving this great big artist

1946
01:25:19,118 --> 01:25:24,207
that everybody is so aware
of now a run for his money.

1947
01:25:24,207 --> 01:25:27,627
DJ Premier:
He's a double-platinum respected
guy that never went platinum.

1948
01:25:32,674 --> 01:25:35,385
Fat Joe: I got a cousin,
he's from the Bronx, young.

1949
01:25:35,385 --> 01:25:37,220
He says, "Yo,
I wanna play you something."

1950
01:25:37,220 --> 01:25:41,391
And it's a cd of Big L
on your show with Jay Z.

1951
01:25:41,391 --> 01:25:44,727
He was like, "Yo, I caught
this shit off the Internet."

1952
01:25:44,727 --> 01:25:47,647
I'm like...

1953
01:25:47,647 --> 01:25:49,649
"That was really your man?"

1954
01:25:49,649 --> 01:25:53,570
I'm like, "Motherfucker,
I was there.

1955
01:25:53,570 --> 01:25:56,240
Like, what the fuck
are you talking about?"

1956
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,534
"No, man, this shit is crazy."

1957
01:25:59,534 --> 01:26:02,954
Big L came up there
and did the disintegration,

1958
01:26:02,954 --> 01:26:05,081
what I was dreaming
I could have done.

1959
01:26:05,081 --> 01:26:08,585
Every punch line was sick.
I ain't gonna front.

1960
01:26:08,585 --> 01:26:10,587
That was one of those moments
on my tape

1961
01:26:10,587 --> 01:26:13,464
that made me a lot of money.
I owe a lot to y'all.

1962
01:26:13,464 --> 01:26:16,676
A whole lot of pairs
of Pumas and Addidas and Nikes

1963
01:26:16,676 --> 01:26:19,679
and Timberlands that I was
buying came from them tapes

1964
01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:21,264
selling a whole lot, bro.

1965
01:26:21,264 --> 01:26:23,141
When I was around niggas
that was hustling,

1966
01:26:23,141 --> 01:26:24,934
I was too scared
to give it a shot,

1967
01:26:24,934 --> 01:26:28,855
so the Stretch and Bobbito
hustle was a lot safer for me.

1968
01:26:28,855 --> 01:26:31,024
(Laughter)

1969
01:26:33,235 --> 01:26:34,694
Fuck that.

1970
01:26:34,694 --> 01:26:37,905
Hold on, before we get to that.
This 89.9 FM.

1971
01:26:37,905 --> 01:26:39,324
Yeah, your voice
sounds great, Stretch.

1972
01:26:39,324 --> 01:26:40,867
No, no, I had to fix it.

1973
01:26:40,867 --> 01:26:42,827
No, I'm saying,
but your voice sounds great.

1974
01:26:42,827 --> 01:26:44,787
- Well, thank you.
- Good to hear your voice
in the headphones.

1975
01:26:44,787 --> 01:26:46,581
I'm getting sentimental
right now.

1976
01:26:46,581 --> 01:26:49,293
You sat here and you watch a
bunch of motherfuckers get rich

1977
01:26:49,293 --> 01:26:52,337
while you broke 'em and you blew
'em up, right or wrong.

1978
01:26:52,337 --> 01:26:53,796
You still love hip-hop.

1979
01:26:53,796 --> 01:26:56,049
Did the show for eight years
absolutely free.

1980
01:26:56,049 --> 01:26:59,093
And you watched motherfuckers
turn around and get rich.

1981
01:26:59,093 --> 01:27:01,012
- I spent money
making that show.
- Yeah, yeah.

1982
01:27:01,012 --> 01:27:02,764
We lost money doing the show.

1983
01:27:02,764 --> 01:27:06,100
Nah, you ain't lose money
because it's priceless.

1984
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:10,480
I owe a lot to you guys,
and we all do.

1985
01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:14,025
All the guys from my generation,
they know what's up.

1986
01:27:14,025 --> 01:27:15,693
I'm glad to see you guys
are still cool.

1987
01:27:15,693 --> 01:27:17,862
You don't hate each other.

1988
01:27:17,862 --> 01:27:19,656
You know what I'm saying?

1989
01:27:19,656 --> 01:27:21,283
Lord Sear: Who is it?!

1990
01:27:21,283 --> 01:27:23,326
(Laughter)
Bobbito: Our first phone call.

1991
01:27:23,326 --> 01:27:24,702
Wait, wait, wait,
hold on, hold on.

1992
01:27:24,702 --> 01:27:26,204
Lord Sear:
See who it is.

1993
01:27:26,204 --> 01:27:29,707
Oh, my God.

1994
01:27:29,707 --> 01:27:31,668
Man:
Oh, my goodness.

1995
01:27:48,726 --> 01:27:52,105
Yo, this is so much fun!

1996
01:27:52,105 --> 01:27:53,856
- Keep it real.
- Yeah, what?

1997
01:27:53,856 --> 01:27:55,817
When we stopped doing
the show together,

1998
01:27:55,817 --> 01:27:57,985
when we started alternating,
it wasn't as fun.

1999
01:27:57,985 --> 01:27:59,321
- No.
- I love you, man.

2000
01:27:59,321 --> 01:28:02,323
- Love you, too.
- All: Aw!

2001
01:28:04,701 --> 01:28:05,660
What should we do?

2002
01:28:05,660 --> 01:28:06,703
Le hugs.

2003
01:28:06,703 --> 01:28:08,329
(Laughter)

2004
01:28:08,329 --> 01:28:10,373
Le flowers.

2005
01:28:10,373 --> 01:28:12,333
Le candy.

2006
01:28:12,333 --> 01:28:15,586
We were right here on this
corner, 104th St. and Broadway.

2007
01:28:15,586 --> 01:28:19,257
We created our own reality by
putting it in the universe.

2008
01:28:19,257 --> 01:28:23,052
- Manifest.
- Manifest right here
on this corner!

2009
01:28:23,052 --> 01:28:25,138
Here! Aqui!

2010
01:28:25,138 --> 01:28:28,641
The Stretch and Bobbito Show
was the number-one,

2011
01:28:28,641 --> 01:28:33,438
absolute best hip-hop radio show
ever, period.

2012
01:28:33,438 --> 01:28:35,940
I know.
You know how?

2013
01:28:35,940 --> 01:28:39,110
'Cause I was there, son, yeah!

2014
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:41,738
What up, baby?
What up, baby?

2015
01:28:41,738 --> 01:28:44,407
20 years and up!
Hey, yo!

2016
01:28:44,407 --> 01:28:46,200
Y'all niggas know
this song right here!

2017
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:50,079
(Shouting)

2018
01:28:50,079 --> 01:28:52,457
Yeah. Yeah.

2019
01:28:52,457 --> 01:28:55,710
♪ To all the killers
in the hundred dollar-- ♪

2020
01:28:55,710 --> 01:28:58,504
♪ Uh-oh, uh-oh. ♪

2021
01:28:58,504 --> 01:29:01,716
♪ Cash rules everything
around me. ♪

2022
01:29:01,716 --> 01:29:03,801
♪ Dolla dolla bill, y'all! ♪

2023
01:29:03,801 --> 01:29:06,637
♪ Cash rules everything,
C.R.E.A.M. Get the money! ♪

2024
01:29:06,637 --> 01:29:09,182
Crowd:
♪ Dolla dolla bill, y'all ♪

2025
01:29:09,182 --> 01:29:11,934
♪ I grew up on the crime side,
New York Times side ♪

2026
01:29:11,934 --> 01:29:14,562
♪ Staying alive was no jive
at second hands ♪

2027
01:29:14,562 --> 01:29:17,482
♪ Moms bounced on old man
so then we moved to ♪

2028
01:29:17,482 --> 01:29:19,108
Crowd:
♪ Shaolin land ♪

2029
01:29:19,108 --> 01:29:21,486
♪ But it was just a dream
for the teen ♪

2030
01:29:21,486 --> 01:29:24,238
♪ Was a fiend
started smokin' woolies ♪

2031
01:29:24,238 --> 01:29:27,283
♪ And running up in gates,
doing shit for high stakes ♪

2032
01:29:27,283 --> 01:29:29,368
♪ Making my way
on fire escapes ♪

2033
01:29:29,368 --> 01:29:32,121
♪ But no question I would speed
for cracks and weed ♪

2034
01:29:32,121 --> 01:29:34,499
♪ Combination made ♪
♪ My eyes bleed ♪

2035
01:29:34,499 --> 01:29:36,000
♪ But no question
I would flow off ♪

2036
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,668
♪ Try to get the dough all ♪

2037
01:29:37,668 --> 01:29:39,504
Crowd: ♪ Sticking up white boys
in ball courts ♪

2038
01:29:39,504 --> 01:29:42,673
♪ Man my life got no better,
same damn 'lo sweater ♪

2039
01:29:42,673 --> 01:29:44,884
♪ Times is ruff and tuff ♪
♪ Like leather ♪

2040
01:29:44,884 --> 01:29:46,511
♪ Figured out
I went the wrong route ♪

2041
01:29:46,511 --> 01:29:49,764
♪ Ao I got with a real ass-- ♪
New York!

2042
01:29:49,764 --> 01:29:53,100
♪ Catchin' keys from across seas
rollin in MPV's every week ♪

2043
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:54,894
Crowd:
♪ We made 40 G's ♪

2044
01:29:54,894 --> 01:29:57,897
♪ Yo my nigga respect mine,
here go the tech nine ♪

2045
01:29:57,897 --> 01:29:59,857
Crowd:
♪ Pow, move from the gate now ♪

2046
01:29:59,857 --> 01:30:02,318
Stop that shit.

2047
01:30:02,318 --> 01:30:04,987
I ain't even know that shit
blended like that.

2048
01:30:04,987 --> 01:30:07,031
Oh, shit!

2049
01:30:07,031 --> 01:30:10,701
I ain't even know that shit
was gonna blend like that.

2050
01:30:10,701 --> 01:30:13,120
Hey, yo, I love y'all, man.
Word up, man.

2051
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,915
Salute the motherfucking
presidential--

2052
01:30:15,915 --> 01:30:17,667
presidential candidates of rap.

2053
01:30:17,667 --> 01:30:19,752
Yo, give it up for Raekwon,
people.

2054
01:30:19,752 --> 01:30:22,880
- Love y'all niggas, man.
- All right, love you too,
my brother,

2055
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,884
Crowd chanting: Wu tang!
Wu tang! Wu tang!

2056
01:30:26,884 --> 01:30:28,970
Wu tang! Wu tang!

2057
01:30:28,970 --> 01:30:32,223
Raekwon: High school reunion
shit of hip-hop niggas,

2058
01:30:32,223 --> 01:30:35,351
and you know authentic niggas
that made stars

2059
01:30:35,351 --> 01:30:38,480
out of dudes today by just
co-signing them.

2060
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:39,981
It was just an honor to be
there, man.

2061
01:30:39,981 --> 01:30:42,024
I wouldn't have missed it
for nothing, B,

2062
01:30:42,024 --> 01:30:45,069
because it's like, yo,
y'all the ancestors of hip-hop.

2063
01:30:45,069 --> 01:30:49,866
Stretch: The '90s were a really
special period in hip-hop.

2064
01:30:49,866 --> 01:30:51,742
They were a transition
from the innocence

2065
01:30:51,742 --> 01:30:55,580
and discovery of the '80s
into the commercialization

2066
01:30:55,580 --> 01:30:58,916
and globalization
of the 2000s and beyond.

2067
01:30:58,916 --> 01:31:02,461
I played a big role
in establishing the blueprint

2068
01:31:02,461 --> 01:31:03,754
for the best kind of hip-hop

2069
01:31:03,754 --> 01:31:06,883
which to this day
is still valid.

2070
01:31:06,883 --> 01:31:08,885
Bobbito: We had a voice
as a radio show

2071
01:31:08,885 --> 01:31:12,763
that was a little bit deeper
than entertainment music.

2072
01:31:12,763 --> 01:31:15,892
We were in this little box,
and just the impact

2073
01:31:15,892 --> 01:31:18,978
that all that's had
on such a personal level

2074
01:31:18,978 --> 01:31:22,023
for me and for the people
that we touched is--

2075
01:31:22,023 --> 01:31:23,733
I still can't really grasp it.

2076
01:31:23,733 --> 01:31:26,235
All I could take
is kind of like these

2077
01:31:26,235 --> 01:31:28,112
personal relationships
that we've made.

2078
01:31:28,112 --> 01:31:29,739
We've become lifelong friends.

2079
01:31:29,739 --> 01:31:31,449
There's like these
satellite people

2080
01:31:31,449 --> 01:31:33,034
that we're both
bonded too as well,

2081
01:31:33,034 --> 01:31:34,702
and I'm just--
I'm thankful for that.

2082
01:31:34,702 --> 01:31:36,621
(Jazz music plays)

2083
01:31:41,626 --> 01:31:44,462
I wish we could go back then
just for a day

2084
01:31:44,462 --> 01:31:46,964
just to fucking see it again.

2085
01:31:46,964 --> 01:31:49,759
Yeah, I might have
to freestyle tonight.

2086
01:31:49,759 --> 01:31:53,304
Del the Funkee Homosapien:
This is one of the dopest shows,
I have to say

2087
01:31:53,304 --> 01:31:55,890
I appreciate that.
We appreciate that.

2088
01:31:55,890 --> 01:31:57,934
This is the Stretch
Armstrong Show.

2089
01:31:57,934 --> 01:32:02,188
My name is Bobbito
on the ill tip, and, uh...

2090
01:32:02,188 --> 01:32:07,902
We ou-u-u-t.

2091
01:32:08,819 --> 01:32:10,738
(Hip-hop music plays)

2092
01:33:48,169 --> 01:33:50,087
Should I lean forward as well?

2093
01:33:50,087 --> 01:33:54,718
No, lean back.

2094
01:33:54,718 --> 01:33:57,053
Yo, what's up,
this is DJ run.

2095
01:33:57,053 --> 01:33:59,263
What's going on?
This is DMC.

2096
01:33:59,263 --> 01:34:01,974
I go by the name of Jam Master J
from around the way,

2097
01:34:01,974 --> 01:34:04,310
and when I'm around the way,
I listen to my man

2098
01:34:04,310 --> 01:34:09,815
Stretch Armstrong
on 89.9 WKCR.

2099
01:34:09,815 --> 01:34:11,358
Peace.

2100
01:34:11,358 --> 01:34:13,736
Bobbito: KCR,
live on the air.

2101
01:34:13,736 --> 01:34:15,738
Man: Yeah, what's up, kid?
It's Bolo Brown.

2102
01:34:15,738 --> 01:34:18,240
A bowl of brown shit.

2103
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:19,950
Lord Sear: A bowl of brown shit.
Boston baked beans.

2104
01:34:21,827 --> 01:34:23,621
Man: Check, check,
wanna give a shout out

2105
01:34:23,621 --> 01:34:25,164
to y'all,
know what I'm saying?

2106
01:34:25,164 --> 01:34:28,626
- All right?
Yo, and yo.
- That's great.

2107
01:34:28,626 --> 01:34:31,837
- Yo, Bobbito, you coming
with the camcorder?
- What happened?

2108
01:34:31,837 --> 01:34:34,048
You coming with the camcorder
to the parade?

2109
01:34:34,048 --> 01:34:35,966
No, no, no--

2110
01:34:35,966 --> 01:34:37,551
Lord Sear: (Mocking) Yeah,
we come with the cam-quarter

2111
01:34:37,551 --> 01:34:38,803
to the pa-wade.

2112
01:34:38,803 --> 01:34:41,765
Cam-quarter.

2113
01:34:41,765 --> 01:34:46,310
Gonna watch the parade
with a cam-quarter.
(Laughter)

2114
01:34:46,310 --> 01:34:47,978
No, I'll bring the camcorder
to your girl's house.

2115
01:34:50,523 --> 01:34:53,234
While you're at the parade.

2116
01:34:53,234 --> 01:34:56,070
Okay, camcorder.

2117
01:34:56,070 --> 01:34:57,947
(All speaking at once)

2118
01:34:57,947 --> 01:35:00,157
- Much love to 'y'all, yo.
- All right.

2119
01:35:00,157 --> 01:35:02,576
Yo, yo, Stretch,
I don't forget,

2120
01:35:02,576 --> 01:35:05,162
you look like that guy
from "The Real World."

2121
01:35:05,162 --> 01:35:07,581
Man: Yo, Monique.
Yo, what's up, baby?

2122
01:35:07,581 --> 01:35:08,958
Monique:
What up?

2123
01:35:08,958 --> 01:35:12,002
Yo, I got one hand
on my left nut.

2124
01:35:15,798 --> 01:35:17,133
Bobbito:
And what else?

2125
01:35:17,133 --> 01:35:20,094
I got a naked Barbie doll
in my butt.

2126
01:35:22,304 --> 01:35:24,348
Bobbito: Stick a Ken doll
in there, too.

2127
01:35:27,268 --> 01:35:30,772
Make them buns each other
in your crack hole!

2128
01:35:30,772 --> 01:35:34,066
Kool Keith: My work ethnics
was so much greedier.

2129
01:35:34,066 --> 01:35:35,526
Bobbito:
Your work ethnics?

2130
01:35:35,526 --> 01:35:37,528
My work-- my work--
you know, my work--

2131
01:35:37,528 --> 01:35:39,363
- Ethic.
- Ethic, ethic.

2132
01:35:39,363 --> 01:35:43,075
Yeah, my work ethnic was so--
no.

2133
01:35:43,075 --> 01:35:45,953
We gotta cut that
right there.

2134
01:35:45,953 --> 01:35:47,955
There's no New York rappers
no more.

2135
01:35:47,955 --> 01:35:49,582
I went to a show a year ago.

2136
01:35:49,582 --> 01:35:51,458
And they had all these rappers
from the Bronx.

2137
01:35:51,458 --> 01:35:54,587
"Yeah!"
(Imitates beat)

2138
01:35:54,587 --> 01:35:57,882
I'm like, how is this guy
from the Bronx?

2139
01:35:57,882 --> 01:36:02,011
He was dressed in orange
and neon yellow and lime green

2140
01:36:02,011 --> 01:36:04,138
and glasses this big.

2141
01:36:04,138 --> 01:36:07,641
You know,
like, what happened?

2142
01:36:12,730 --> 01:36:15,107
Stretch: At what point
did the show for you turn--

2143
01:36:16,859 --> 01:36:18,861
Yo, who was that?

2144
01:36:18,861 --> 01:36:21,405
Who do you think?
Really? Really?

2145
01:36:21,405 --> 01:36:24,116
You gotta ask?
Come on, bro.

2146
01:36:24,116 --> 01:36:26,619
Why can't you go that way?
It's good for the camera.

2147
01:36:26,619 --> 01:36:29,330
- Wow.
- Some things never change.

2148
01:36:29,330 --> 01:36:34,335
I don't wanna breathe your
fucking anal molecules, bro.

2149
01:36:34,335 --> 01:36:37,671
I had a smell flashback.

2150
01:36:39,882 --> 01:36:42,885
The incarcerated population
of the tri-state area,

2151
01:36:42,885 --> 01:36:44,803
they know who we are.

2152
01:36:44,803 --> 01:36:47,556
How would we fare if we got
locked up for something?

2153
01:36:47,556 --> 01:36:49,475
Didn't Big Graveyard
write you a letter?

2154
01:36:49,475 --> 01:36:51,560
We got a letter
from Big Graveyard saying,

2155
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,605
"I'm in Rahway doing like a,
I don't know,

2156
01:36:54,605 --> 01:36:56,273
10-, 15- year bid.

2157
01:36:56,273 --> 01:36:58,609
When I get out,
you guys need me for anything,

2158
01:36:58,609 --> 01:37:01,779
I got you."

2159
01:37:01,779 --> 01:37:03,656
That just stuck in my head,
to this day.

2160
01:37:03,656 --> 01:37:06,742
Big Graveyard,
if you're out there...

2161
01:37:06,742 --> 01:37:07,868
Thank you.

2162
01:37:07,868 --> 01:37:09,328
Hit me up on instagram.

2163
01:37:09,328 --> 01:37:11,455
I was tempted to eat
your blueberries.

2164
01:37:11,455 --> 01:37:13,666
- Yo, get busy.
- Word?

2165
01:37:13,666 --> 01:37:15,501
I'm a eat some of them shits
when we done.

2166
01:37:15,501 --> 01:37:17,711
When I cut the lime,
he said, "Busta Limes."

2167
01:37:23,050 --> 01:37:26,345
Yo-- (Laughs) Yo.

2168
01:37:26,345 --> 01:37:28,305
Sear, me and Stretch
are proud of you, bro.

2169
01:37:28,305 --> 01:37:31,016
- Thank you.
- For real, man, rocking
on Sirius Satellite FM,

2170
01:37:31,016 --> 01:37:32,810
Monday through Friday
4:00 to 8:00.

2171
01:37:32,810 --> 01:37:36,146
I need a copy of this.
Can you give me a copy?

2172
01:37:36,146 --> 01:37:38,732
You can put it
on an mp3 file?

2173
01:37:38,732 --> 01:37:41,277
All right.

2174
01:37:41,277 --> 01:37:43,612
On recording:
♪ I provoke your instinct
not to think ♪

2175
01:37:43,612 --> 01:37:46,615
♪ Enter your brain ♪
♪ And drain till your mind is blank ♪

2176
01:37:46,615 --> 01:37:49,243
Both: ♪ My microphone...
is on ♪

2177
01:37:49,243 --> 01:37:50,869
♪ And that's
my word is bond ♪

2178
01:38:26,739 --> 01:38:31,493
Stretch and Bobbito!

2179
01:38:31,493 --> 01:38:33,078
Man: Rolling.

2180
01:38:33,078 --> 01:38:35,122
Stretch:
Hello, WKCR.

2181
01:38:35,122 --> 01:38:37,791
Man: Yo, yo, y'all gonna play
that new joint by um--

2182
01:38:41,420 --> 01:38:45,424
- This show is over.
- Show is over, baby, sorry man.

2183
01:38:45,424 --> 01:38:48,010
Man: Y'all not coming back on
in about half an hour?

2184
01:38:48,010 --> 01:38:49,553
- No!
- No, no, no!