1 00:00:22,043 --> 00:00:24,203 '..goes by the name of Nigel Dempster. 2 00:00:24,242 --> 00:00:25,843 'All that and much more on TVAM, 3 00:00:25,882 --> 00:00:28,163 'but for the moment, on behalf of all of us here 4 00:00:28,203 --> 00:00:30,683 'at our studios at Thames, good night.' 5 00:01:44,362 --> 00:01:46,762 Mum? 6 00:01:59,842 --> 00:02:01,723 Hi, Mum! 7 00:02:06,323 --> 00:02:07,683 Mum! 8 00:02:11,603 --> 00:02:13,043 Mum? 9 00:02:23,163 --> 00:02:24,522 Mum?! 10 00:02:34,082 --> 00:02:35,482 Mum! 11 00:03:13,323 --> 00:03:14,323 Mum! 12 00:03:39,603 --> 00:03:41,163 What are you doing, Colin? 13 00:03:41,202 --> 00:03:44,323 Looking for dishwasher salt. I could've sworn I bought some. 14 00:03:44,362 --> 00:03:46,362 Want me to pick some up? 15 00:03:46,403 --> 00:03:48,403 Er, yeah. Would you? 16 00:03:53,443 --> 00:03:55,242 Hamish Campbell. 17 00:03:59,082 --> 00:04:02,443 Er, DCI Colin Sutton to see Hamish Campbell. 18 00:04:03,522 --> 00:04:05,522 He's this way. Just through there. 19 00:04:05,563 --> 00:04:07,283 Thank you. 20 00:04:11,082 --> 00:04:13,682 apprehension of this dangerous man 21 00:04:13,723 --> 00:04:16,203 without regard to his personal safety 22 00:04:16,242 --> 00:04:20,002 was in the finest tradition of the Metropolitan Police. 23 00:04:20,043 --> 00:04:23,643 Apologies - commendation write-up. Hello, Colin. 24 00:04:23,682 --> 00:04:24,922 Morning, sir. 25 00:04:24,963 --> 00:04:27,242 Bloody amazing, what these young PCs will do for us. 26 00:04:27,283 --> 00:04:29,643 Yes. Well done, again, on Bellfield. 27 00:04:29,682 --> 00:04:31,843 Oh, it's team effort, sir, thank you. 28 00:04:31,882 --> 00:04:33,682 Great work. 29 00:04:35,002 --> 00:04:37,362 What do you know about Operation Minstead? 30 00:04:37,403 --> 00:04:41,203 A long string of burglaries and rapes of the elderly 31 00:04:41,242 --> 00:04:45,922 dating back to the '90s. 1992, 17 years. 32 00:04:45,963 --> 00:04:48,643 The press called him the Night Stalker, 33 00:04:48,682 --> 00:04:50,603 and he's recently become active again. 34 00:04:50,643 --> 00:04:52,442 Haven't we got his DNA? 35 00:04:52,482 --> 00:04:55,163 Yeah, but he's not in the system, so we can't ID him. 36 00:04:55,203 --> 00:04:58,362 DNA tells us he's of West Indian origin, but that's it. 37 00:04:58,403 --> 00:05:01,723 Our new commissioner has suggested that we make the Night Stalker 38 00:05:01,763 --> 00:05:03,002 a priority of the Command. 39 00:05:03,043 --> 00:05:06,122 Right, and when a new commissioner suggests... 40 00:05:06,163 --> 00:05:08,523 Oh... he thinks there's an impression 41 00:05:08,562 --> 00:05:10,322 that the Met drags its heels 42 00:05:10,362 --> 00:05:11,882 when it comes to serial sex offenders. 43 00:05:11,922 --> 00:05:14,523 Well, after Worboys, I can't blame him. 44 00:05:16,163 --> 00:05:19,283 Given that you have some experience with high-profile, 45 00:05:19,322 --> 00:05:20,963 serial sex offenders... 46 00:05:21,002 --> 00:05:23,362 well, I thought you could bring something to the table. 47 00:05:24,562 --> 00:05:27,882 Right. So do you want my team to take a look at it 48 00:05:27,922 --> 00:05:29,922 or for me to review what they've got? 49 00:05:29,963 --> 00:05:32,562 The latter. Definitely the latter. Simon Morgan remains as SIO. 50 00:05:32,603 --> 00:05:35,163 Didn't Serious Crime just do a review? 51 00:05:35,203 --> 00:05:37,922 Yes, they did, and there's been at least three before that. 52 00:05:37,963 --> 00:05:41,603 This guy's good, Colin - 17 years and he's never left a fingerprint, 53 00:05:41,643 --> 00:05:43,322 never let a witness see his face. 54 00:05:43,362 --> 00:05:46,002 Years go by, no offences. 55 00:05:46,043 --> 00:05:49,043 Teams get broken up, budgets get re-allocated, 56 00:05:49,083 --> 00:05:51,322 and then he starts again. 57 00:05:52,562 --> 00:05:54,322 It's a ten-year investigation. 58 00:05:54,362 --> 00:05:57,083 They might be missing something that's staring them in the face. 59 00:05:57,122 --> 00:05:58,802 That's ten years of feathers to ruffle. 60 00:05:58,843 --> 00:06:01,763 I-I know you're retiring in a few months. 61 00:06:01,802 --> 00:06:07,723 I just need you to take a look. In and out in a couple of weeks. 62 00:06:10,163 --> 00:06:12,163 Well, come on, give us a clue. 63 00:06:12,203 --> 00:06:15,362 I want you to dig out everything you can on Operation Minstead 64 00:06:15,403 --> 00:06:16,723 and email it to me. 65 00:06:16,763 --> 00:06:20,083 They're not lumbering us with that? No, just me for the moment. 66 00:06:21,203 --> 00:06:23,362 Right. I'm just gonna have a look. 67 00:06:23,403 --> 00:06:24,763 A fresh pair of eyes and all that. 68 00:06:26,362 --> 00:06:28,163 But I do need those files, Clive. 69 00:07:18,002 --> 00:07:21,682 Oh, you must be the analyst? DCI Colin Sutton. 70 00:07:21,723 --> 00:07:23,242 Richard Moore. 71 00:07:23,283 --> 00:07:24,843 I'm here to see Simon Morgan. 72 00:07:26,203 --> 00:07:29,482 Another review, is it? Yes and no. 73 00:07:30,643 --> 00:07:33,643 Er, incident rooms, straight ahead. 74 00:07:33,682 --> 00:07:35,043 Thank you, Richard. 75 00:07:46,682 --> 00:07:48,322 DCI Sutton? 76 00:07:52,882 --> 00:07:54,403 DI Nathan Eason. 77 00:07:54,442 --> 00:07:57,203 Colin Sutton. I'm here to see Simon Morgan. 78 00:07:57,242 --> 00:07:58,843 Yeah, he's not here, I'm afraid. 79 00:07:58,882 --> 00:08:00,802 What d'you mean? We're meeting at 12. 80 00:08:00,843 --> 00:08:03,203 I know. He left me to be the welcome party. 81 00:08:03,242 --> 00:08:05,963 We had another one last night. Oh, right. 82 00:08:06,002 --> 00:08:08,643 What, and Simon's at the scene, is he? He is, yeah. 83 00:08:10,002 --> 00:08:13,322 OK, er, well, there's nothing like learning on the job, is there? 84 00:08:16,043 --> 00:08:17,562 I'm sure he won't be long. 85 00:08:17,603 --> 00:08:21,002 Don't worry, Nathan, I won't get under anyone's feet. Let's go. 86 00:08:23,643 --> 00:08:25,002 All right. 87 00:08:38,883 --> 00:08:41,682 DCI Colin Sutton. He's with me. 88 00:08:47,322 --> 00:08:49,602 Simon Morgan. Colin Sutton. 89 00:08:49,643 --> 00:08:52,123 I was hoping to brief you properly before you came to a scene, 90 00:08:52,163 --> 00:08:54,283 but no matter. 91 00:08:54,322 --> 00:08:57,283 The victim's a Sandra Nelson, 82-year-old woman. 92 00:08:57,322 --> 00:08:59,643 She's been taken to hospital. Is she hurt? 93 00:08:59,682 --> 00:09:02,682 TBC. She's traumatised, like so many before her. 94 00:09:02,722 --> 00:09:05,322 Might not be able to give us a reliable account. 95 00:09:05,363 --> 00:09:08,763 Original concrete path, original front door 96 00:09:08,802 --> 00:09:11,883 with inlaid panes of glass intact, a nice shade of mid-blue. 97 00:09:11,922 --> 00:09:13,682 Hmm. Sends a signal. 98 00:09:13,722 --> 00:09:15,842 Yeah. "Old person lives here". 99 00:09:15,883 --> 00:09:17,842 To which our man is fully attuned. 100 00:09:17,883 --> 00:09:20,883 Yeah, well, practise makes perfect, I suppose. 101 00:09:28,123 --> 00:09:31,322 Forensics reckons he was hiding in that corner all night, 102 00:09:31,363 --> 00:09:34,483 hour after hour, just waiting for his moment. 103 00:09:34,523 --> 00:09:36,082 He's leaving DNA, but he doesn't care. 104 00:09:36,123 --> 00:09:38,283 He's not in the system and he knows it. 105 00:09:38,322 --> 00:09:41,123 How long have you had it? 106 00:09:41,163 --> 00:09:43,003 The Night Stalker's DNA. 107 00:09:43,043 --> 00:09:45,043 1992. 108 00:09:45,082 --> 00:09:47,202 Look, er, no offence, 109 00:09:47,243 --> 00:09:48,658 but that's a name coined by the press 110 00:09:48,682 --> 00:09:52,322 to sell papers and scare people. I never use it, neither do my team. 111 00:09:52,363 --> 00:09:54,082 Minstead Man is how we refer to him. 112 00:09:55,283 --> 00:09:57,243 Right. I'll know for next time. 113 00:10:18,283 --> 00:10:22,483 Two years ago, he stopped dead after the case featured on Crimewatch, 114 00:10:22,523 --> 00:10:23,842 and then, a month ago, 115 00:10:23,883 --> 00:10:26,883 he hit three homes in three weeks, still targeting elderly women. 116 00:10:26,922 --> 00:10:28,562 And where were those offences? 117 00:10:28,602 --> 00:10:32,003 Clara-Jane Proctor, 74, was sexually assaulted in the house 118 00:10:32,043 --> 00:10:34,682 where she was born in Birch Avenue, Shirley. 119 00:10:34,722 --> 00:10:37,322 Then a week later, Lynn Marie Kerr, 69, 120 00:10:37,363 --> 00:10:39,523 a former headmistress from Coulsdon, was burgled. 121 00:10:39,562 --> 00:10:43,763 Two nights after that, he moves up to Croydon. Phylis Carlton, 71, 122 00:10:43,802 --> 00:10:46,163 a widow that had just buried her husband. 123 00:10:46,202 --> 00:10:48,562 Can't always leave DNA, can he? 124 00:10:49,802 --> 00:10:52,722 So what other markers tell you it's Minstead Man? 125 00:10:52,763 --> 00:10:56,602 Well, top five would be age of victims, light bulbs removed, 126 00:10:56,643 --> 00:10:59,283 phone lines cut, balaclava, gloves... 127 00:11:00,483 --> 00:11:02,643 He's covered the PIR light again, boss. 128 00:11:02,682 --> 00:11:05,003 DS Neville Hylton, DCI Colin Sutton. 129 00:11:05,043 --> 00:11:06,842 Let's have a look. This way. 130 00:11:08,682 --> 00:11:11,003 Stops the motion-sensitive lights coming on 131 00:11:11,043 --> 00:11:13,962 when he's stalking the property. Just up there. 132 00:11:14,003 --> 00:11:16,123 Last time, he used a glove, 133 00:11:16,163 --> 00:11:19,763 time before was a broken branch, but not from a nearby tree. 134 00:11:19,802 --> 00:11:22,602 He comes prepared. That's an understatement. 135 00:11:22,643 --> 00:11:24,763 It's hard to reconcile, isn't it? 136 00:11:24,802 --> 00:11:28,523 The control and the planning with the depravity of what he does? 137 00:11:28,562 --> 00:11:29,883 Yeah, it is. 138 00:11:29,922 --> 00:11:32,682 Is it OK if I speak to the victim some time? 139 00:11:32,722 --> 00:11:35,722 Well, as long as the FLO's happy. It's her call. Yeah. 140 00:11:35,763 --> 00:11:37,523 I'll brief you properly back at Lewisham. 141 00:11:37,562 --> 00:11:39,322 Neville, wanna show me this corner, mate? 142 00:11:39,363 --> 00:11:41,363 OK, it's this way, boss. 143 00:11:41,403 --> 00:11:44,003 We found some more cigarette butts like last time... 144 00:11:46,322 --> 00:11:48,003 Is he in pain? 145 00:11:49,682 --> 00:11:52,202 Could've bailed years ago on a full injury pay out. 146 00:11:53,363 --> 00:11:56,962 Altercation with a prisoner, left him with massive spinal injuries. 147 00:11:57,003 --> 00:11:58,523 Nathan. 148 00:12:45,763 --> 00:12:48,643 DCI Colin Sutton, DC Patricia Henry, our FLO. 149 00:12:48,682 --> 00:12:50,842 Good to meet you. You, too. 150 00:12:50,883 --> 00:12:54,082 Colin's joining us for a few days, giving us the benefit of his wisdom. 151 00:12:54,123 --> 00:12:55,483 Well, I wouldn't go that far. 152 00:12:55,523 --> 00:12:58,123 No offence, but I'm not sure you'll get your head around this case 153 00:12:58,163 --> 00:12:59,163 in a few days. 154 00:13:01,043 --> 00:13:02,602 How's Sandra? 155 00:13:02,643 --> 00:13:06,602 She suffers from dementia, so we haven't got much beyond the usual - 156 00:13:06,643 --> 00:13:09,403 balaclava, torch, the opening one-word demand for money. 157 00:13:09,442 --> 00:13:11,602 Do you think she's been sexually abused? 158 00:13:11,643 --> 00:13:14,643 Don't know. We just swabbed for semen and DNA. 159 00:13:14,682 --> 00:13:17,802 Poor woman. She kept asking the nurse what she was doing. 160 00:13:20,003 --> 00:13:24,763 She did mention something we've seen in a few other Minstead offences - 161 00:13:24,802 --> 00:13:27,202 he took her pulse. 162 00:13:27,243 --> 00:13:29,483 Any idea why he'd do that? 163 00:13:29,523 --> 00:13:32,763 Well, one time, the victim feigned injury so he felt her pulse, 164 00:13:32,802 --> 00:13:37,003 said, "Nothing's wrong with you" and punched her to the floor. 165 00:13:37,043 --> 00:13:40,123 Would you mind if I had a quick word with her? 166 00:13:40,163 --> 00:13:42,082 Yes, I would. 167 00:13:42,123 --> 00:13:43,922 She needs rest, and with respect, 168 00:13:43,962 --> 00:13:46,842 you wouldn't elicit anything from her I haven't. 169 00:13:46,883 --> 00:13:48,523 Fair enough. 170 00:13:52,202 --> 00:13:54,602 Bit of a wasted trip. For you, I mean. 171 00:13:54,643 --> 00:13:57,442 Oh, I wouldn't say that. Oh, no matter. 172 00:13:57,483 --> 00:14:00,202 Almost all the interviews with the victims were recorded. 173 00:14:00,243 --> 00:14:03,163 I warn you, they're not easy viewing. 174 00:14:03,202 --> 00:14:04,883 No, I understand. Thank you. 175 00:14:04,922 --> 00:14:07,243 A good number of his victims have already passed away. 176 00:14:15,442 --> 00:14:17,322 Janet, for instance. 177 00:14:17,363 --> 00:14:20,003 She suffered a perforated bowel during her assault 178 00:14:20,043 --> 00:14:21,283 and died shortly after. 179 00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:26,643 Did he kill her? Not legally. 180 00:14:26,682 --> 00:14:28,802 But in every other way... 181 00:14:29,962 --> 00:14:31,202 Yeah. 182 00:14:31,243 --> 00:14:33,123 I could've left this case years ago. 183 00:14:35,483 --> 00:14:37,003 Probably should have. 184 00:14:38,243 --> 00:14:40,403 I would've had a very different career, but... 185 00:14:40,442 --> 00:14:42,003 Yeah, I understand. 186 00:14:44,043 --> 00:14:46,202 Far as I'm concerned, he's a serial killer. 187 00:14:48,802 --> 00:14:51,322 Perhaps we should, er, get to the investigation. 188 00:14:51,363 --> 00:14:53,523 I've got a few preliminary questions. 189 00:14:53,562 --> 00:14:56,523 Sorry, no time. I've got a thing at the Yard now. 190 00:14:56,562 --> 00:14:59,442 What? A budget meeting. Pain in the arse. 191 00:14:59,483 --> 00:15:01,883 I thought you were gonna brief me fully back at the station? 192 00:15:01,922 --> 00:15:04,682 Well, with respect, if you hadn't gone to the hospital, 193 00:15:04,722 --> 00:15:06,442 we would've had time. 194 00:15:06,483 --> 00:15:09,763 Team meeting in the morning, my place. Your place? 195 00:15:09,802 --> 00:15:12,483 The best way for you to catch up. Nathan will give you the address. 196 00:15:12,523 --> 00:15:14,842 Meantime, I'll collate some files, 197 00:15:14,883 --> 00:15:18,082 give you a chance to get a proper handle on things. 198 00:15:24,082 --> 00:15:25,483 Thank you. 199 00:15:37,442 --> 00:15:38,962 You got a minute? 200 00:15:39,003 --> 00:15:41,202 Erm, yeah. 201 00:15:44,922 --> 00:15:48,243 At the scene, I noticed you were running a full cordon 202 00:15:48,283 --> 00:15:50,682 with a PC signing everyone in and out, 203 00:15:50,722 --> 00:15:53,883 and you were canvassing statements, doing a bit of house-to-house. 204 00:15:53,922 --> 00:15:55,043 That's right. 205 00:15:55,082 --> 00:15:56,763 Oh, it's just that that level of response 206 00:15:56,802 --> 00:15:58,403 you normally reserve for a murder. 207 00:15:59,562 --> 00:16:01,722 Well, we're just trying to be thorough, Colin. 208 00:16:01,763 --> 00:16:04,643 But you haven't got the budget or the manpower for a murder inquiry, 209 00:16:04,682 --> 00:16:06,043 nothing near. 210 00:16:06,082 --> 00:16:07,722 You know how it is. 211 00:16:07,763 --> 00:16:10,123 Parts of CID have a mindset that says offences 212 00:16:10,163 --> 00:16:13,523 that aren't murder are lesser crimes, even rape. 213 00:16:13,562 --> 00:16:15,722 And that's what we're guarding against. 214 00:16:15,763 --> 00:16:17,322 That's very laudable in theory, 215 00:16:17,363 --> 00:16:19,243 but if you haven't got the resources... 216 00:16:19,283 --> 00:16:21,562 Yeah, well, it's not been easy, I grant you. 217 00:16:21,602 --> 00:16:24,243 Why don't I buy you a proper cup of coffee? 218 00:16:24,283 --> 00:16:25,802 Might even run to a biscuit. 219 00:16:27,123 --> 00:16:28,363 OK. 220 00:16:41,322 --> 00:16:44,483 So would you say that having Minstead Man's DNA 221 00:16:44,523 --> 00:16:46,922 is viewed as your strongest lead? Yeah. 222 00:16:46,962 --> 00:16:49,163 And so that's the focus of the investigation? 223 00:16:49,202 --> 00:16:50,403 Absolutely, yeah. 224 00:16:50,442 --> 00:16:53,043 All right. So what's your screening criteria? 225 00:16:53,082 --> 00:16:55,243 How'd you prioritise who gets tested? 226 00:16:55,283 --> 00:16:59,123 Well, the base level of our pool is he's a black male 227 00:16:59,163 --> 00:17:04,882 whose DNA isn't on the database and who was aged 18 to 40 in 1992. 228 00:17:04,923 --> 00:17:07,443 That's hundreds of thousands of people. 229 00:17:08,642 --> 00:17:11,362 Yeah, it is. That's not a pool, it's an ocean. 230 00:17:11,402 --> 00:17:12,443 Well, we then prioritise 231 00:17:12,483 --> 00:17:15,122 based on intelligence gained from witness statements. 232 00:17:15,162 --> 00:17:17,882 OK. Can you give me an example? 233 00:17:17,923 --> 00:17:19,602 Yeah. 234 00:17:19,642 --> 00:17:22,443 One victim said she heard a motorcycle start up 235 00:17:22,483 --> 00:17:24,642 right after the suspect left. 236 00:17:24,683 --> 00:17:28,122 So men in the pool who own motorbikes became a priority? 237 00:17:28,162 --> 00:17:30,642 For a time, yeah. Any more examples? 238 00:17:32,642 --> 00:17:35,882 Someone noticed there'd been a rash of offences in streets 239 00:17:35,923 --> 00:17:39,322 where satellite TV was recently installed. OK. 240 00:17:39,362 --> 00:17:42,642 Thinking is, if he's an engineer, he'd be hidden in plain sight - 241 00:17:42,683 --> 00:17:45,882 he could perform reconnaissance and select targets unnoticed. 242 00:17:45,923 --> 00:17:48,882 Right. And what about the swabbing operation? 243 00:17:48,923 --> 00:17:51,082 How many DNA samples are you taking a week? 244 00:17:51,122 --> 00:17:54,162 Oh, well, that-that varies. 245 00:17:54,203 --> 00:17:56,763 I think we're out today, actually. 246 00:17:56,802 --> 00:18:00,043 Really? Do you know what'd be a help? 247 00:18:00,082 --> 00:18:03,203 If I could tag along and see how these things are done. 248 00:18:15,283 --> 00:18:17,122 Kieron Gould? 249 00:18:17,162 --> 00:18:21,003 DS Neville Hylton, DC Adam Spier, DCI Colin Sutton. 250 00:18:21,043 --> 00:18:23,003 What d'you want? 251 00:18:23,043 --> 00:18:25,243 Er, we need you to step back inside, please. 252 00:18:25,283 --> 00:18:27,602 It won't take a minute. What won't take a minute? 253 00:18:29,082 --> 00:18:30,443 We need to take your DNA, Kieron. 254 00:18:30,483 --> 00:18:32,402 We need to eliminate you from our inquiries. 255 00:18:32,443 --> 00:18:35,003 Inquiries into what? What's the charge? 256 00:18:35,043 --> 00:18:38,122 There's no charge, Kieron. Well, what's the case, then? 257 00:18:39,322 --> 00:18:40,802 It's a serial rapist. 258 00:18:40,842 --> 00:18:42,483 Fuck off. Seriously? 259 00:18:46,082 --> 00:18:48,243 Why is my name on your list? 260 00:18:48,283 --> 00:18:50,082 I can't divulge that. 261 00:18:50,122 --> 00:18:52,659 I can't help you. I'll miss my appointment. No, you won't, mate. 262 00:18:52,683 --> 00:18:55,602 You just stop arguing and comply and everyone's a winner. 263 00:18:55,642 --> 00:18:58,763 Do I have to comply? Do you have a warrant? 264 00:18:58,802 --> 00:19:00,923 No, we don't. It's voluntary. 265 00:19:00,963 --> 00:19:02,443 In that case, get lost. 266 00:19:02,483 --> 00:19:03,723 Well, why take that attitude? 267 00:19:03,763 --> 00:19:07,003 Eh? If you've got nothing to hide, what're you worried about? 268 00:19:07,043 --> 00:19:09,842 It's a question of trust... or lack of it. 269 00:19:09,882 --> 00:19:12,802 See, if you grew up around here, you'd know what I mean. 270 00:19:16,003 --> 00:19:17,523 You would, anyway. 271 00:20:02,882 --> 00:20:04,723 Hello, Clive. 'How was it, boss?' 272 00:20:04,763 --> 00:20:07,562 I'm still getting the lay of the land. 273 00:20:07,602 --> 00:20:11,243 'Got time for a beer?' All right. Yeah, just a quick one. 274 00:21:00,243 --> 00:21:03,562 'Boss?' Clive, do a car check for me? 275 00:21:10,162 --> 00:21:11,523 Cheers, Sarah. 276 00:21:14,362 --> 00:21:16,322 Hello, Clive. All right, Guv? 277 00:21:16,362 --> 00:21:17,562 You all right? 278 00:21:17,602 --> 00:21:21,562 Yeah. Volvo is registered to a Bob Stiles. 279 00:21:23,322 --> 00:21:25,243 Not what you were expecting? 280 00:21:25,283 --> 00:21:27,642 Er, no. Not quite. Thanks, though. 281 00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:33,723 Don't you think it's a bit weird? As in convenient? 282 00:21:35,283 --> 00:21:37,162 Sorry. Long day. 283 00:21:37,203 --> 00:21:40,082 Well, I mean, there's a fair few other DCIs they could've asked 284 00:21:40,122 --> 00:21:41,683 apart from you, Guv. 285 00:21:41,723 --> 00:21:43,562 Yeah, I suppose so. 286 00:21:46,523 --> 00:21:49,882 I mean, what is the Minstead inquiry at this point? 287 00:21:49,923 --> 00:21:54,122 It's a black hole, decade-plus train wreck, poison chalice. 288 00:21:54,162 --> 00:21:56,483 You think someone's trying to poison me, Clive? 289 00:21:56,523 --> 00:21:58,802 I don't think you take a scalp like Bellfield 290 00:21:58,842 --> 00:22:00,162 without making some enemies. 291 00:22:00,203 --> 00:22:02,203 That sounds a bit paranoid. 292 00:22:02,243 --> 00:22:04,162 Maybe. 293 00:22:08,842 --> 00:22:11,362 I can't help feeling that this is just the start. 294 00:22:11,402 --> 00:22:13,683 They get rid of you and then they dismantle the team... 295 00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:15,323 Get rid of me? I'll be back in two weeks. 296 00:22:15,362 --> 00:22:17,562 ..just because we smashed it, because they can. 297 00:22:19,203 --> 00:22:22,602 What, you think I got Minstead as some sort of payback? 298 00:22:25,003 --> 00:22:26,443 I dunno. 299 00:22:27,483 --> 00:22:28,923 Long day. 300 00:22:30,322 --> 00:22:33,243 Well, you did say I should've retired after the trial. 301 00:22:33,283 --> 00:22:34,882 Quit while I was ahead. 302 00:22:38,082 --> 00:22:41,802 Look, I get it, Hamish asked, you can't exactly say no. 303 00:22:43,283 --> 00:22:44,963 But? 304 00:22:46,523 --> 00:22:47,882 But... 305 00:22:49,322 --> 00:22:51,082 ..I think you should critique what's wrong 306 00:22:51,122 --> 00:22:54,362 and I think you should get out. The moment you start offering ideas, 307 00:22:54,402 --> 00:22:56,362 you are sucked in on the worst terms. 308 00:22:56,402 --> 00:22:59,402 You have all the responsibility and zero clout. 309 00:23:01,203 --> 00:23:03,723 Then you will go down with the ship. 310 00:23:30,082 --> 00:23:31,802 OK, I'll give you a call. 311 00:23:31,842 --> 00:23:34,203 All right. I gotta go, bye. Bye. 312 00:23:36,243 --> 00:23:37,882 A bit unorthodox, isn't it? 313 00:23:37,923 --> 00:23:40,082 No, we often meet at the guvnor's house, 314 00:23:40,122 --> 00:23:42,122 you know, on account of his back issues. 315 00:23:42,162 --> 00:23:44,963 Did you chase up that Volvo I saw last night? 316 00:23:45,003 --> 00:23:46,802 I did, yeah. 317 00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:49,402 Turns out it was being driven by the head 318 00:23:49,443 --> 00:23:53,283 of the local Neighbourhood Watch, a chap called Alan Wilson. 319 00:23:53,322 --> 00:23:55,122 OK. 320 00:23:55,162 --> 00:23:57,562 He operates a scheme where local residents' cars 321 00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:59,362 are parked on the drives of would-be victims 322 00:23:59,402 --> 00:24:01,082 who don't own cars themselves. 323 00:24:01,122 --> 00:24:03,523 Oh, I see. What, to deter Minstead Man? 324 00:24:03,562 --> 00:24:05,723 Yeah. That's ingenious. 325 00:24:05,763 --> 00:24:08,363 Yeah, he was driving slowly cos he was looking for the right house 326 00:24:08,402 --> 00:24:11,082 to park the Volvo and couldn't see the numbers in the dark. 327 00:24:11,122 --> 00:24:13,243 Right. Lead on. 328 00:24:17,043 --> 00:24:18,322 All right, Guv? Morning. 329 00:24:18,362 --> 00:24:19,562 Morning. 330 00:24:19,602 --> 00:24:20,683 Oh, morning, Nathan. 331 00:24:20,723 --> 00:24:23,283 It's custard creams or custard creams, I'm afraid. 332 00:24:23,322 --> 00:24:26,283 Oh, well, in that case I'll have one of each. Thanks. 333 00:24:31,243 --> 00:24:32,642 Morning. 334 00:24:34,362 --> 00:24:36,523 Ah, right, first off, we have a visitor. 335 00:24:36,562 --> 00:24:40,523 DCI Colin Sutton will be joining us for a short while to see if 336 00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:43,523 there are any missed opportunities that might help progress our case, 337 00:24:43,562 --> 00:24:45,802 so please introduce yourselves afterwards 338 00:24:45,842 --> 00:24:47,562 and assist him wherever possible. 339 00:24:47,602 --> 00:24:49,923 Right. How're we getting on with the swabbing, Neville? 340 00:24:49,963 --> 00:24:53,402 Crunching through the list. We had a non-cooperative yesterday. 341 00:24:53,443 --> 00:24:55,003 What's your sense of him? 342 00:24:55,043 --> 00:24:57,603 He's not Minstead Man, but we'll get a sample second time around. 343 00:24:57,642 --> 00:24:59,243 Right. Good. We had a bit more luck 344 00:24:59,283 --> 00:25:00,802 with an aerial fitter from Croydon. 345 00:25:00,842 --> 00:25:03,003 Bit more - we got his DNA, but no match. 346 00:25:03,043 --> 00:25:06,283 Well, he's one off the list, isn't he? Good work. 347 00:25:06,322 --> 00:25:10,763 I need to update you all on progress of Santiago University in Spain. 348 00:25:10,802 --> 00:25:13,602 Their scientists are using cutting-edge tech 349 00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:16,162 to establish the physical characteristics of Minstead Man 350 00:25:16,203 --> 00:25:17,402 based on his DNA. 351 00:25:17,443 --> 00:25:19,723 Really? I didn't think that was possible. 352 00:25:19,763 --> 00:25:21,523 Yeah. 353 00:25:21,562 --> 00:25:24,162 By ascertaining genealogy, they'll be able to give us 354 00:25:24,203 --> 00:25:27,402 a very clear idea as to his ancestry and country of origin. 355 00:25:29,082 --> 00:25:30,602 Yeah, Adam? 356 00:25:30,642 --> 00:25:33,963 Yeah, the, er, victim at Allenhall Road, Sandra Nelson, 357 00:25:34,003 --> 00:25:35,882 had quite a bit of jewellery stolen. 358 00:25:35,923 --> 00:25:38,162 Good news is that she, er, 359 00:25:38,203 --> 00:25:41,043 had it all photographed for insurance purposes. 360 00:25:41,082 --> 00:25:44,122 Now, I've got an informant who knows her way around 361 00:25:44,162 --> 00:25:45,642 the local pawn shops. Her way? 362 00:25:45,683 --> 00:25:47,923 Yeah. Yeah. 363 00:25:47,963 --> 00:25:50,642 Believe it or not, her name is, er, Diamanda. 364 00:25:50,683 --> 00:25:52,842 If he tries to fence this stuff, she'll tell us. 365 00:25:52,882 --> 00:25:54,082 Good. 366 00:25:59,523 --> 00:26:01,362 Thanks for introducing me. 367 00:26:01,402 --> 00:26:02,923 That's OK. No problem. 368 00:26:04,162 --> 00:26:06,763 What if you didn't have his DNA? 369 00:26:06,802 --> 00:26:09,802 What would your main lines of enquiry be then? 370 00:26:09,842 --> 00:26:12,963 Well, the DNA is our key asset, Colin. 371 00:26:13,003 --> 00:26:15,443 When we catch Minstead Man, and we will, 372 00:26:15,483 --> 00:26:18,882 he's in the pool, isn't he? We'll have a cast-iron case. 373 00:26:18,923 --> 00:26:22,523 But the priority list runs to 5,200 names, 374 00:26:22,562 --> 00:26:24,963 and last week, you swabbed one person. 375 00:26:25,003 --> 00:26:27,523 At that rate, it'll take hundreds of years to clear the list, 376 00:26:27,562 --> 00:26:29,362 and even then, he might not be on it. 377 00:26:29,402 --> 00:26:30,842 Oh, he's on that list, Colin, 378 00:26:30,882 --> 00:26:34,043 and we have active measures to shorten it considerably. 379 00:26:34,082 --> 00:26:36,802 What, by prioritising satellite engineers and motorcyclists? 380 00:26:36,842 --> 00:26:38,602 Two avenues of many. Yeah, but if you take... 381 00:26:38,642 --> 00:26:41,283 We're running before we can walk here, Colin. 382 00:26:41,322 --> 00:26:46,562 I saw first-hand how painful it is just trying to get one sample, 383 00:26:46,602 --> 00:26:49,082 or not getting it, as it turned out. 384 00:26:49,122 --> 00:26:51,338 We've got you an office where you can get your head down, 385 00:26:51,362 --> 00:26:53,243 get across the material I've prepared. 386 00:26:53,283 --> 00:26:55,443 If you have any questions, once you're up to speed, 387 00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:56,723 I'll be happy to answer them. 388 00:26:57,802 --> 00:27:00,562 Why don't you wanna talk to me? I am talking to you. 389 00:27:00,602 --> 00:27:03,642 I get the feeling you're fobbing me off, that's all. 390 00:27:03,683 --> 00:27:06,003 Oh, that's your interpretation. Yeah, it is. 391 00:27:06,043 --> 00:27:09,483 My interpretation would be that I've been nothing but cooperative 392 00:27:09,523 --> 00:27:12,003 and you're being a little paranoid. 393 00:27:12,043 --> 00:27:16,322 I'm not here to do a box tick, seen-to-be-done review, Simon. 394 00:27:16,362 --> 00:27:17,683 I'm here to help. 395 00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:20,243 I'm here because Hamish thinks that fresh eyes 396 00:27:20,283 --> 00:27:22,003 might be useful at this point. 397 00:27:22,043 --> 00:27:24,203 Yeah, I appreciate that. Do you? 398 00:27:24,243 --> 00:27:26,043 I get the feeling you resent it. 399 00:27:27,602 --> 00:27:30,043 Look, the truth is, Colin, 400 00:27:30,082 --> 00:27:32,243 we've tried a ton of things over the years - 401 00:27:32,283 --> 00:27:35,483 probably all the things you could think of and more. 402 00:27:41,802 --> 00:27:46,523 You start contributing ideas, it's a slippery slope. 403 00:27:46,562 --> 00:27:49,882 I mean, you need to be realistic. About what? 404 00:27:49,923 --> 00:27:55,402 Well.. how long can you stick to diagnosing problems 405 00:27:55,443 --> 00:27:57,203 without offering solutions? 406 00:27:57,243 --> 00:27:59,203 Hmm? Friday? 407 00:28:00,763 --> 00:28:03,362 Well, let's say I can resist that temptation 408 00:28:03,402 --> 00:28:05,963 and I am in and out in a couple of weeks, there's no harm done. 409 00:28:06,003 --> 00:28:07,562 No, no harm done. 410 00:28:08,923 --> 00:28:11,402 It won't be much of a review, though, will it? 411 00:28:11,443 --> 00:28:12,763 What are you saying? 412 00:28:14,003 --> 00:28:19,402 I'm saying, if you worry about politics, retirement dates, 413 00:28:19,443 --> 00:28:20,882 if you... 414 00:28:20,923 --> 00:28:24,802 If you hold back and give this less than your all, you'll regret it. 415 00:28:24,842 --> 00:28:27,322 Wow. OK. That's me told. 416 00:28:27,362 --> 00:28:31,562 Especially when he offends again, which we both know he will. 417 00:28:34,642 --> 00:28:36,322 Look, what are you more afraid of? 418 00:28:36,362 --> 00:28:41,122 Not solving the case, or how that would damage your reputation? 419 00:28:41,162 --> 00:28:44,402 Cos they've been after this bloke for 17 years, 420 00:28:44,443 --> 00:28:46,443 so the odds can't be good. 421 00:29:02,162 --> 00:29:03,723 Cheers, Dave. 422 00:29:03,763 --> 00:29:04,923 That's OK. 423 00:29:04,963 --> 00:29:06,802 Thank you. No problem. 424 00:29:11,683 --> 00:29:14,443 Right. PC, printer, 425 00:29:14,483 --> 00:29:16,802 TV, VHS, phone. 426 00:29:16,842 --> 00:29:19,963 You dial eight for an outside line. Don't ask me why it's not nine. 427 00:29:20,003 --> 00:29:22,283 We march to the beat of our own drum round here. 428 00:29:22,322 --> 00:29:24,483 Yeah, I'm beginning to get that impression. 429 00:29:24,523 --> 00:29:27,443 Oh, and, of course, a lifetime's supply of stab vests. 430 00:29:27,483 --> 00:29:29,243 I'm already wearing one, Kenny. 431 00:29:30,322 --> 00:29:32,082 Excellent. Very good. 432 00:29:32,122 --> 00:29:34,483 No, but, seriously, do you want me to get rid of them? 433 00:29:34,523 --> 00:29:37,842 No, there's enough space. Anything else you need, let me know. 434 00:29:37,882 --> 00:29:39,283 Thank you. 435 00:29:43,562 --> 00:29:45,362 So, what was it? 436 00:29:46,683 --> 00:29:49,283 Short straw? Owe someone a favour? 437 00:29:49,322 --> 00:29:51,162 You seem like a good bloke, that's all. 438 00:29:51,203 --> 00:29:52,563 Can't see you holding your hand up 439 00:29:52,602 --> 00:29:55,283 to rake over another officer's case. 440 00:29:55,322 --> 00:29:57,602 Pointless Review Number 56. 441 00:29:57,642 --> 00:30:00,763 I'm a loyal soldier, Kenny - I do as I'm told. 442 00:30:21,602 --> 00:30:25,402 I read my Maeve Binchy book for about half an hour, 443 00:30:25,443 --> 00:30:30,043 and the next thing, I was woken by a noise... 444 00:30:32,003 --> 00:30:35,203 ..and then I saw a figure at the end of the bed. 445 00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:41,882 He was wearing a kind of boiler suit 446 00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:46,642 and his face was hidden by a balaclava. 447 00:30:48,003 --> 00:30:52,923 He shone a torch in my eyes, then covered my face with his hand. 448 00:30:54,082 --> 00:30:57,882 I couldn't... breathe, I couldn't see. 449 00:30:59,243 --> 00:31:02,322 I felt as if I was suffocating. 450 00:31:04,003 --> 00:31:06,642 I told him my handbag 451 00:31:06,683 --> 00:31:08,562 was in the living room, but it wasn't enough. 452 00:31:10,642 --> 00:31:13,483 He grabbed me by the shoulders 453 00:31:13,523 --> 00:31:15,642 and he pushed me on to the settee. 454 00:31:19,402 --> 00:31:21,003 And then... 455 00:31:22,402 --> 00:31:24,523 ..he climbed on top of me. 456 00:31:24,562 --> 00:31:28,003 And when he finished... 457 00:31:30,443 --> 00:31:35,402 ..he threw me a towel and told me to... clean up. 458 00:31:39,723 --> 00:31:43,243 I sat there thinking, "This is it... 459 00:31:44,882 --> 00:31:47,003 "this is the end of your life." 460 00:31:59,003 --> 00:32:02,322 He told me to take my nightdress off 461 00:32:02,362 --> 00:32:07,122 as there might be semen on it, and he put it in the sink to soak. 462 00:32:12,203 --> 00:32:17,283 And then I had to have a lot of tests for various infections 463 00:32:17,322 --> 00:32:19,443 that he might've... 464 00:32:22,082 --> 00:32:24,963 ..passed-passed on to me. 465 00:32:27,523 --> 00:32:31,923 I had to wait two weeks for the HIV test to come back. 466 00:32:37,043 --> 00:32:39,203 I moved in with my son's family. 467 00:32:41,283 --> 00:32:43,162 I had terrible nightmares. 468 00:32:45,322 --> 00:32:46,923 My son would wake me up, 469 00:32:46,963 --> 00:32:50,562 telling me I'd been shouting things out like, 470 00:32:50,602 --> 00:32:54,763 "Keep off me, stay away from me." 471 00:33:11,562 --> 00:33:13,723 It's outrageous - not just what he's done, 472 00:33:13,763 --> 00:33:18,243 but how long he's got away with it. The phones on the units, 473 00:33:18,283 --> 00:33:22,043 bulbs in the sink... I've never seen that before. 474 00:33:22,082 --> 00:33:23,963 Thanks, love. Yeah, he's meticulous. 475 00:33:24,003 --> 00:33:28,483 And unusual. It's gold dust to an analyst. 476 00:33:28,523 --> 00:33:30,283 Go on. 477 00:33:30,322 --> 00:33:35,043 You don't get this good without practise. I'd go back. 478 00:33:35,082 --> 00:33:38,483 I'd trawl for the earliest cases that could be him 479 00:33:38,523 --> 00:33:40,122 based on these traits, 480 00:33:40,162 --> 00:33:42,322 and then I'd look for a schoolboy error 481 00:33:42,362 --> 00:33:44,283 or a clue to his location. 482 00:33:44,322 --> 00:33:46,203 What sort of clue? 483 00:33:46,243 --> 00:33:50,443 I don't know, but how many criminals open their account close to home? 484 00:33:53,003 --> 00:33:56,562 The minute he sets foot on these properties, he's in control. 485 00:33:56,602 --> 00:33:58,723 It's his house. 486 00:34:38,762 --> 00:34:40,403 Morning, Richard. 487 00:34:40,443 --> 00:34:42,202 Morning, Colin. 488 00:34:42,242 --> 00:34:43,803 Morning. 489 00:34:43,843 --> 00:34:45,682 Gentlemen. Oh, sir, 490 00:34:45,722 --> 00:34:47,363 Nathan was just telling me 491 00:34:47,403 --> 00:34:49,883 how you mistook Neighbourhood Watch Al for the Night Stalker. 492 00:34:49,923 --> 00:34:50,963 Minstead Man, please. 493 00:34:51,003 --> 00:34:53,282 I'm never gonna live that one down, am I? 494 00:34:53,323 --> 00:34:55,323 Some beginner's luck that would've been. 495 00:34:55,363 --> 00:34:57,883 Well, you never know. Have we actually taken Al's DNA? 496 00:34:57,923 --> 00:35:01,122 I think your list is long enough, don't you? Amen to that. 497 00:35:01,162 --> 00:35:03,443 Could've been one longer this morning. Just knocked back 498 00:35:03,483 --> 00:35:05,963 a possible Minstead offence referred by the local borough. 499 00:35:06,003 --> 00:35:07,162 False alarm? 500 00:35:07,202 --> 00:35:08,923 Didn't have the key Minstead hallmarks 501 00:35:08,963 --> 00:35:11,162 and the victim type was off - male and female. 502 00:35:12,562 --> 00:35:14,722 Those hallmarks, are they written down anywhere? 503 00:35:14,762 --> 00:35:17,602 Mm. Got a whole policy log on the subject. 504 00:35:17,642 --> 00:35:20,963 Ping it over to me, will you? I'll stick it on the pile. 505 00:35:59,242 --> 00:36:01,003 Are these all Minstead? 506 00:36:01,043 --> 00:36:02,963 All Minstead. 507 00:36:06,883 --> 00:36:10,762 I tried to do a HOLMES search relating to Minstead Man's DNA 508 00:36:10,803 --> 00:36:13,043 and drew a blank. I couldn't find a single lab report. 509 00:36:13,082 --> 00:36:17,762 Well, the, er, lab reports themselves aren't on the database, 510 00:36:17,803 --> 00:36:23,363 but their existence is noted if you tailor your search accordingly. 511 00:36:23,403 --> 00:36:25,162 Well, what's the use of that? 512 00:36:25,202 --> 00:36:27,762 Well, every exhibit seized from a Minstead scene 513 00:36:27,803 --> 00:36:29,963 is submitted to the lab with its Lab Form One, 514 00:36:30,003 --> 00:36:32,202 but once the scientists work their magic, 515 00:36:32,242 --> 00:36:34,043 they return the forms with their findings. 516 00:36:35,363 --> 00:36:37,923 But the findings never get entered on HOLMES? 517 00:36:37,963 --> 00:36:39,202 No. 518 00:36:39,242 --> 00:36:41,403 So the reports are basically un-searchable? 519 00:36:41,443 --> 00:36:43,803 All of HOLMES' search features are redundant? 520 00:36:43,843 --> 00:36:47,082 Yep, to access any given file, you need to come down here 521 00:36:47,122 --> 00:36:50,202 and go through the boxes manually. 522 00:36:50,242 --> 00:36:52,803 Well, why, Neville? Why would you do it like that? 523 00:36:52,843 --> 00:36:54,843 I had the same question when I joined. 524 00:36:54,883 --> 00:36:57,682 And? Well, it's all about the numbers. 525 00:36:57,722 --> 00:36:59,883 Too many offences, too much evidence, 526 00:36:59,923 --> 00:37:01,883 too few people to process it all. 527 00:37:01,923 --> 00:37:05,043 Everything would just fall over if corners weren't cut. 528 00:37:05,082 --> 00:37:07,602 Well, maybe it needs to fall over. 529 00:37:07,642 --> 00:37:09,443 Well, no-one's happy about it, Colin. 530 00:37:09,483 --> 00:37:11,082 There's just no alternative. 531 00:37:11,122 --> 00:37:14,162 We haven't just got the proven Minstead scenes to deal with, 532 00:37:14,202 --> 00:37:16,202 we've got all the break-ins local CID send our way 533 00:37:16,242 --> 00:37:19,562 that could be him. It's literally hundreds of offences. 534 00:37:19,602 --> 00:37:21,883 You are chronically understaffed, aren't you? 535 00:37:23,043 --> 00:37:24,323 Yeah. 536 00:37:28,682 --> 00:37:32,403 Nathan, that possible Minstead case the borough sent over, 537 00:37:32,443 --> 00:37:34,202 when was that? 538 00:37:34,242 --> 00:37:36,043 Last night. Colbridge Road in Bromley. 539 00:37:36,082 --> 00:37:38,282 And what ruled it out, the victimology? 540 00:37:38,323 --> 00:37:43,363 Yeah, a woman in her late 80s, her son in his 60s. 541 00:37:43,403 --> 00:37:45,202 There's no record of our man targeting a home 542 00:37:45,242 --> 00:37:48,202 with multiple occupants, and he always engages with his victims. 543 00:37:48,242 --> 00:37:50,602 Right, and this offender didn't? No. 544 00:37:50,642 --> 00:37:53,963 I wonder why the borough thought it was Minstead. 545 00:37:54,003 --> 00:37:59,443 Erm... age of victims, time of the offence and location. 546 00:37:59,483 --> 00:38:02,282 Well, it's worth running up the flagpole, isn't it? 547 00:38:04,202 --> 00:38:07,282 Well, with respect to the screening criteria, 548 00:38:07,323 --> 00:38:09,923 that is right in the heart of his hunting ground. 549 00:38:12,003 --> 00:38:14,403 I'm just saying we could do worse than give it a second look. 550 00:38:15,562 --> 00:38:18,082 Or I could go on my own, if it's easier. 551 00:38:19,122 --> 00:38:20,202 No. 552 00:38:38,682 --> 00:38:42,523 DC Jim Corgan, Bromley CID. Do you think it might be him, then? 553 00:38:45,403 --> 00:38:47,963 Let's say we wanna make sure it isn't. 554 00:38:51,642 --> 00:38:54,043 Several handbags belonging to the homeowner 555 00:38:54,082 --> 00:38:55,803 were turned out on the table. 556 00:38:57,242 --> 00:38:59,722 He's made a point of leaving the cash. 557 00:38:59,762 --> 00:39:04,003 Doesn't sound like our boy, but I'm keeping an open mind. 558 00:39:04,043 --> 00:39:06,202 Well, in a few hours, we might know definitively. 559 00:39:06,242 --> 00:39:08,242 How so? Follow me. 560 00:39:14,043 --> 00:39:16,403 This is Gavin Forbes, son of the homeowner. 561 00:39:16,443 --> 00:39:18,043 He was asleep upstairs 562 00:39:18,082 --> 00:39:20,082 at the time of the burglary. His mum's in hospital, 563 00:39:20,122 --> 00:39:22,363 being treated for shock. Oh, good morning, Mr Forbes. 564 00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:24,162 DI Nathan Eason, DCI Colin Sutton. 565 00:39:24,202 --> 00:39:26,443 Tell 'em about the juice carton, Gavin. 566 00:39:29,483 --> 00:39:31,602 When I got back from the hospital, 567 00:39:31,642 --> 00:39:34,803 I went to get a glass of orange from the fridge. 568 00:39:34,843 --> 00:39:37,122 The carton was almost empty. 569 00:39:37,162 --> 00:39:40,523 I only opened it last night, and my mum never touches the stuff. 570 00:39:40,562 --> 00:39:43,403 What, and you think the intruder might've helped himself? 571 00:39:44,682 --> 00:39:46,363 It's the only explanation. 572 00:39:46,403 --> 00:39:48,562 Have we seen this before? 573 00:39:48,602 --> 00:39:50,762 He normally goes for the beer. 574 00:39:50,803 --> 00:39:52,483 He might've been driving. 575 00:39:52,523 --> 00:39:55,883 The juice carton's being tested for DNA? As we speak. 576 00:39:55,923 --> 00:39:57,843 If it's Minstead, you'll be the first to know. 577 00:39:57,883 --> 00:39:59,242 Right. 578 00:39:59,282 --> 00:40:02,242 Mr Forbes, I'm sorry to have to ask you to go through it again, 579 00:40:02,282 --> 00:40:03,483 but from my experience, 580 00:40:03,523 --> 00:40:05,682 it's always best to hear these things first-hand. 581 00:40:08,122 --> 00:40:10,682 About 6am, I heard a noise downstairs. 582 00:40:12,282 --> 00:40:13,562 I thought it must be Mum, 583 00:40:13,602 --> 00:40:15,122 but she's not normally up before ten, 584 00:40:15,162 --> 00:40:16,722 so I decided to go and check. 585 00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:20,602 When I opened the door, I got the shock of my life - 586 00:40:20,642 --> 00:40:22,642 about half a dozen pairs of shoes and boots 587 00:40:22,682 --> 00:40:23,963 tumbled inwards on the floor. 588 00:40:24,003 --> 00:40:26,363 Was it your shoes? From the rack downstairs. 589 00:40:26,403 --> 00:40:28,562 He must've piled them halfway up the door. 590 00:40:28,602 --> 00:40:30,363 I mean, why would he do that? 591 00:40:30,403 --> 00:40:34,323 A DIY early warning system. That could be why he left the cash. 592 00:40:35,523 --> 00:40:37,883 He was still in the house when I went down. 593 00:40:40,963 --> 00:40:45,562 You said you're working on another case. Is it, erm... 594 00:40:45,602 --> 00:40:50,003 It's-It's not that... bloke attacking old ladies? 595 00:40:50,043 --> 00:40:51,323 The Night Stalker? 596 00:40:52,523 --> 00:40:55,162 Yes, it is, I'm afraid. 597 00:40:55,202 --> 00:40:56,682 Oh, Jesus. 598 00:40:56,722 --> 00:40:58,843 What is it, Gavin? 599 00:40:58,883 --> 00:41:01,843 Mum's room is downstairs and, er, 600 00:41:01,883 --> 00:41:04,523 she always sleeps with the door open. 601 00:41:05,803 --> 00:41:07,363 What if he went in...? 602 00:41:07,403 --> 00:41:10,762 Your mum said nothing to suggest any contact with the intruder. 603 00:41:10,803 --> 00:41:14,803 She's in shock! She wouldn't admit it. 604 00:41:14,843 --> 00:41:17,202 I mean, she wouldn't have the words. 605 00:41:17,242 --> 00:41:21,003 Gavin, your mum's in the best possible hands at the hospital. 606 00:41:21,043 --> 00:41:23,363 I know it's hard, but until we know more, 607 00:41:23,403 --> 00:41:26,523 try not to torture yourself with what-ifs, OK? 608 00:41:26,562 --> 00:41:28,162 OK. 609 00:41:28,202 --> 00:41:30,178 Now, this shoe rack, I didn't see it when I came in. 610 00:41:30,202 --> 00:41:31,562 It's by the back door. 611 00:41:31,602 --> 00:41:34,202 Does it get much use? All the time. 612 00:41:34,242 --> 00:41:35,923 Mum's still very house-proud, 613 00:41:35,963 --> 00:41:38,843 she won't have shoes cluttering the hall. 614 00:41:45,762 --> 00:41:48,443 This still might not be Minstead Man. 615 00:41:49,722 --> 00:41:52,843 What, no panes removed or ornaments lined up? 616 00:41:52,883 --> 00:41:55,642 No bulbs removed either, or phone lines cut. 617 00:41:55,682 --> 00:41:57,242 Yeah. 618 00:41:59,043 --> 00:42:01,363 I read one of the profiles last night. 619 00:42:01,403 --> 00:42:04,682 Yeah, which one? Er, Dr Pauline Rees. 620 00:42:04,722 --> 00:42:06,282 Reed. Yeah. 621 00:42:06,323 --> 00:42:10,082 She stressed how rare it is for an offender to spend so much time 622 00:42:10,122 --> 00:42:12,363 just observing his victims. 623 00:42:12,403 --> 00:42:15,963 Like any monetary gain was secondary to just watching them 624 00:42:16,003 --> 00:42:17,843 go about their lives. 625 00:42:20,963 --> 00:42:23,642 If he came from here to the back door, 626 00:42:23,682 --> 00:42:26,122 he wouldn't see that shoe rack, would he? 627 00:42:26,162 --> 00:42:27,803 But he knew it was there, didn't he? 628 00:42:29,043 --> 00:42:30,803 Gavin said they use that every day. 629 00:42:30,843 --> 00:42:32,323 Yeah, he was watching. 630 00:42:32,363 --> 00:42:35,483 From all these foot prints, he must've been here for a while. 631 00:42:35,523 --> 00:42:39,562 One time, he waited so long, he did a number two under a tree. 632 00:42:39,602 --> 00:42:43,043 Did he? I bet Dr Reed had a field day. 633 00:42:44,443 --> 00:42:46,602 Let's figure out how he got in. 634 00:43:08,883 --> 00:43:11,443 Looks like a dead end. Yeah. 635 00:43:28,242 --> 00:43:31,803 Colin... any luck, we've got him on camera. 636 00:43:32,963 --> 00:43:34,843 Coming and going. 637 00:43:36,082 --> 00:43:40,282 I know it's a bit basic, but I'm using these coloured pins 638 00:43:40,323 --> 00:43:44,642 to mark the locations and the era of the offences. 639 00:43:44,682 --> 00:43:46,843 Numbered in sequence? Yeah. 640 00:43:46,883 --> 00:43:49,122 Why, have you got something like it? 641 00:43:49,162 --> 00:43:51,403 Yeah, one or two, and in colour. 642 00:43:51,443 --> 00:43:55,682 Oh, well, there's nothing wrong with a bit of DIY, is there? 643 00:43:55,722 --> 00:43:57,923 Plus it helps me to get my head round it all. 644 00:43:57,963 --> 00:44:00,803 Orpington. I attended that one. 645 00:44:00,843 --> 00:44:03,523 DNA on the orange carton is a 100% match for Minstead Man. 646 00:44:03,562 --> 00:44:07,403 Colbridge Road is our case. And we've got him on camera, too. 647 00:44:07,443 --> 00:44:13,722 Gavin said he was woken at six, so I started there. 648 00:44:21,923 --> 00:44:23,562 Ah. 649 00:44:23,602 --> 00:44:26,202 Well, it confirms his route and the time he left, 650 00:44:26,242 --> 00:44:27,602 but not much else. 651 00:44:28,843 --> 00:44:31,363 He did show a bit more leg going in. 652 00:44:37,043 --> 00:44:39,003 There you go. 653 00:44:40,043 --> 00:44:42,282 That's nearly six hours earlier. 654 00:44:42,323 --> 00:44:45,562 Can you freeze it on the best possible frame, Nathan? 655 00:44:45,602 --> 00:44:47,443 Shame he's got his back to us. 656 00:44:47,483 --> 00:44:51,122 Well, still, we've got a good idea of his weight and his height, 657 00:44:51,162 --> 00:44:53,843 it lets us know he's got an athletic gait, 658 00:44:53,883 --> 00:44:55,483 we know he walks to and from the scenes, 659 00:44:55,523 --> 00:44:57,363 even if he's arriving by car. 660 00:44:58,682 --> 00:45:01,963 We're gonna need to widen our screening criteria. 661 00:45:02,003 --> 00:45:03,403 That means more offences. 662 00:45:04,523 --> 00:45:08,122 Well, so be it. But you haven't got the manpower, 663 00:45:08,162 --> 00:45:10,443 not when you're treating every offence like a murder. 664 00:45:12,803 --> 00:45:14,923 Would this be a fair observation? 665 00:45:14,963 --> 00:45:18,523 You're trying to make these offences fit the usual processes, 666 00:45:18,562 --> 00:45:21,162 but they won't - they just won't - 667 00:45:21,202 --> 00:45:24,963 and the effort of trying to force them to fit is killing you. 668 00:45:27,282 --> 00:45:28,963 More than fair. 669 00:45:29,003 --> 00:45:31,403 Then something's gotta change.