1 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,400 So she says to us, "Why are you always mumbling all the time?" 2 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,520 I says, "Why am I always mumbling all the time?" She says, "Aye, why are you always mumbling all the time?" 3 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,680 I says, "You know what your trouble is, pet?" 4 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,240 You can't tell talk from mutter. Thanks, mate(!) 5 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,360 Here's a topical one. A bloke goes up to Twiggy. 6 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Pay him off, man, Tommy, for hell's sake! Howay, son, you're off. 7 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,440 Did somebody die or what? 8 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,000 Your bingo books are now on sale in the lounge! 9 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,240 Give us a Mackeson, pet. 10 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,960 Eyes down in ten minutes! 11 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Yours, bonny lad? 12 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,720 What? Oh, yeah. It's me daughter. 13 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,720 Bonny little lass. What's she called? 14 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Leigh Ann. 15 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,240 Must have got her face from her mother. 16 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,480 Eh. You'd think butter wouldn't melt in their mouths at that age, yeah. 17 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Yes, well it wouldn't. 18 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:42,240 You look at photos like these and you think, "Look at that little smile, 19 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,640 "look at the light in them eyes... whole life ahead." 20 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,680 But you don't know what that life'll be, do you? 21 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,120 Nobody knows how a bairn's life'll turn out. 22 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Do you recognise him? 23 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Is it you? 24 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,560 No, it's Adolf Hitler. 25 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:12,040 I cut it out of a magazine! 26 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,920 Adolf Hitler! 27 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:16,960 Look at his cheeky little face! 28 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Beautiful woman. 29 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,240 Thanks for showing it to me. 30 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,200 You must really regret that you couldn't have children. 31 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Well... They'd have been grown up and gone by now anyway. 32 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,680 But they'd still be there. 33 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,800 And you don't have anybody, do you? 34 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Why's that then? Married to the job? 35 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,640 Or would it be disloyal? 36 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:47,440 Two years since she died, isn't it? 37 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,680 I just hate the idea of you being lonely, George. 38 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,600 I'm alone. I'm not lonely. 39 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,960 Well. I'm not alone. 40 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,480 I've got Leigh Ann. And now I've got me Mum and Dad again. 41 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,040 But I am lonely. 42 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,760 Though not as lonely as I was when I was living with a man who didn't want me. 43 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,920 I've given up trying to give John advice. 44 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:12,960 There you go... PHONE RINGS 45 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,360 No, no, no, no... Yes. Yes! 46 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,920 Well... thank you, Lisa. 47 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:18,840 That was very nice. 48 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,040 Is there a Mr Gently here? 49 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,160 Excuse me... 50 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,080 It's through that door, Mister. 51 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Just get home, pet, go on. 52 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,680 Somebody get hold of these kids and get them home. 53 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:17,240 Chap down the corridor heard loud voices about a couple of hours ago, peeked out through his doorway 54 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,120 and he saw this bloke running towards the stairs. 55 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,040 He had a cut on his face, blood running from it. 56 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,720 But our chap did nothing. Because apparently she made a lot of noise. 57 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,080 Drank a lot. Had a lot of male visitors. 58 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,720 Somebody's whacked her pretty hard there. 59 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,800 What's all this about? Hanky covering her eyes? 60 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,520 What you looking for? 61 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,440 There must be a poker here somewhere. Reckon it was the murder weapon? 62 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,720 I know it was. Why? 63 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,240 Dark smudges in with the blood. 64 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,880 You didn't see them, did you? What? 65 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,360 You thought her mascara had run? It's ash. 66 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,560 Have I done something to offend you, guv? No. 67 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,040 Here we go. You found it? 68 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,640 Birth certificate... 69 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,000 for one Agnes Charlton. 70 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,280 Is that her then? No. Born 1953. 71 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:33,480 Mother Domenica Charlton, aged 19. 72 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Maybe this is the mother then. 73 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,520 Make her what? Early 30s... 74 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,360 Reckon? 75 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,280 Be about right, wouldn't it? 76 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:43,880 Does it give a father's name? 77 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,720 Yeah. You all right? 78 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,040 Sir, the woman's brother. Mr Paige. 79 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,680 I want to see her! No, you don't. 80 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,880 She's me kid sister! Yes, Mr Paige, but you don't want to see her, believe me. Do you live nearby? 81 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,560 I'm at me mother's at the minute, but I was in the pub. 82 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,120 Well, we'd best go and tell her. 83 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,080 She'll know by now. The whole town knows. 84 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,600 Take me to your mother's, and we'll talk about it there. 85 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,400 All right? Just wait in the car. 86 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Take him, will you? Right lads, all yours. 87 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,840 You stay here and take a full statement from this chap and any other residents you can find. 88 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:25,280 When did he last see her alive, anybody know about boyfriends etc. 89 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,280 The man with the cut on his face... 90 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:31,080 has he seen him before, would he know him again. 91 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,280 And send someone to check all the hospitals in case somebody comes in looking for stitches in his face? 92 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:39,680 Saturday night in Newcastle, we'll get the phone book, but do it anyway. 93 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,680 I'll be back. 94 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Do you have any idea who might do this to your daughter, Mrs Paige? 95 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Only her neighbour said that Domenica had a lot of visitors. 96 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Men. We loved Domenica, Inspector, 97 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,680 we love her. She was always... 98 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,720 fragile, when she was a bairn, you know. She has a daughter. 99 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Aye... Agnes. 100 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Where is she? 101 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,320 She lives with her Dad on the coast. 102 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Agnes is upstairs asleep. 103 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,360 She wanted to stop with me tonight. 104 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600 You'd better bring her down. You fetch her, Darren. 105 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,720 Do I have to tell her? 106 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Well, somebody's got to. 107 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Where on the coast, Mrs Paige? 108 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,280 What? Oh, Alan. High Blyth. 109 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Would you 110 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,520 write his address down for me, please? 111 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,040 Just here. 112 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,800 There you go. 113 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,040 < GIRL CRIES OUT 114 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,960 How's that child going to live with this? 115 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,280 When did the marriage fail? 116 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,440 It never worked. 117 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,720 It had no chance. 118 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,560 I want me mammy, Nana. Your mammy's in Heaven, Agnes. 119 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:33,120 I don't want her to go to Heaven, I want her here! 120 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,080 Agnes... 121 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,960 is it all right if I talk to you? 122 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,160 I don't want to answer questions! 123 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,360 I want me Mammy back! 124 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,800 I'm sorry, Agnes. Tomorrow... 125 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Come on, pet. You can sleep in my bed. 126 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Agnes's father, Domenica's husband is... Alan Charlton, correct? 127 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,680 Did your sister have a regular boyfriend, Darren? 128 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:05,000 Any enemies? 129 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Everybody loves Domenica. 130 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,560 I know that you think bad of her for the way she lives. 131 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,200 Everybody who knew her loved her. 132 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 She was that sort of lass. 133 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,200 You were obviously very close. I'm sorry. 134 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,680 When did you last see her? Yesterday? 135 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:31,840 Did she seem OK? She didn't mention any problems with her... boyfriends? 136 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,600 No. 137 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Or her husband? No. 138 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,240 Would you mind having a look at this for me, please, Darren? 139 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Dear God. What's she put that for? 140 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,200 Did your sister think her ex-husband was an evil man? 141 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,880 No, she loved him. 142 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,440 And he worshipped the ground she walked on. It'll kill him, this. 143 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,920 So? Why would she write that? 144 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,440 Domenica was... 145 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,800 fragile... Fragile. 146 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,000 Yes. 147 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,600 When you use the word "fragile" what exactly do you mean by that, Darren? 148 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:20,760 There were times when she... 149 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,400 were taken away. For her own safety, like. 150 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,840 You mean your sister was mentally disturbed. 151 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,720 She got sectioned twice. 152 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,720 Why would you carry your daughter's birth certificate around in your handbag? 153 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Where's Leigh Ann's birth certificate? 154 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Her mother's got it, I suppose. In a drawer somewhere. Exactly. 155 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Well, look, from what we know she was crackers, weren't she. 156 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,960 I mean, when Alan Charlton walks in, he won't have horns and a tail, will he? 157 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Taking their time, aren't they? Tell me again what the bloke down the corridor said. 158 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,280 That Domenica was shouting. 159 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,120 There was a man's voice raised and he saw the bloke with the cut face 160 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,520 but he can't say exactly what time any of this happened... 161 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,520 on account of being out of his mind on Brown Ale, probably. 162 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,000 But he thought he didn't have a local accent. Scottish accent, he thinks. 163 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,880 But he was drunk. He was useless. 164 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,960 All the same, best let the hospitals know we'd particularly like 165 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,600 to hear about a Scot who needed treatment for a cut on his face. 166 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Sir? 167 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,840 How do we play this with the husband, sir? Light or heavy? 168 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,640 What do you think? 169 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Heavy. Correct. 170 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,920 It was a savage attack, I'm afraid. 171 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,680 And her eyes had been covered with a handkerchief. 172 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:04,640 Who would want to do that? You can't think of anybody then? 173 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Me? No. 174 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,800 So... 175 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,840 Where were you earlier on tonight, Alan? Say from six o'clock onwards. 176 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,680 I was at home. Alone? 177 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:33,560 As it turned out. 178 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:38,560 Normally Agnes is with us but she wanted to get the bus over to her Nana's. 179 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:42,320 Not her mother? She isn't allowed to go to her mothers. 180 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,400 For obvious reasons. On your tod then. 181 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,120 Can anybody vouch for this? 182 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,720 What are you trying to say? I'm not trying to say anything, Alan. 183 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,920 I'm just trying to establish where you... 184 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,960 That's my wife on that trolley. 185 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,560 You know? 186 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:03,280 The woman I married... 187 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,560 The mother of my bairn... 188 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Taylor. 189 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,840 Sir? 190 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,480 Mr Charlton can go and see his daughter. 191 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,840 I'm sorry... We'll talk again tomorrow. 192 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,520 No other injuries apart from the ones to the head. 193 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Signs of sexual activity but not of rape. 194 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,400 Died between 5pm and 9pm yesterday. 195 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,800 What was in her stomach? Nothing. Bloodstream? 196 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,080 Alcohol and amyl nitrate. 197 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,160 She used the drugs to keep going, I would guess. 198 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Sir... Scotch bloke got four stitches put in his head at ten o'clock last night. 199 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,280 Gave his name as Smith. 200 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,040 He's rooming at the Seamen's Hostel in Jarrow. Have him picked up. 201 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,680 Take him to Domenica Charlton's. 202 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:00,200 Sir... 203 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,160 Beauty sleep will have to wait. 204 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,440 YAWNING 205 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,120 I rang you earlier on, see if you fancied a pint. 206 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,640 I was out... 207 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,400 With your wife. 208 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,840 Did you have a nice time? 209 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,360 Very. 210 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,800 She keeping all right? 211 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,320 Why don't you ask her? 212 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,040 Hang on... What do you mean "out with your wife"? 213 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,720 Is this something you do regular? 214 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Is that a problem, John? 215 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,480 What did she say about us? 216 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,760 What... you think we talk about you? 217 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,600 Here's our Scotsman. 218 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,160 All I want to say is one thing - you're old enough to be her father. 219 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,240 Mr Smith, is it? Apologies for dragging you out of bed. 220 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,080 What's this about? What did you do to your head? 221 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,400 I walked into a wall, why? 222 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Happens to you a lot, does it? When I'm steaming, yeah. 223 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,080 Come with me, will you please? 224 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,760 Have a look at this gentleman here, please, Mr Hill, and tell us 225 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,720 if he's the man you saw leaving Domenica's flat last night. 226 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Come close. He won't bite. 227 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,200 No, I don't think so. 228 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,720 Nah, I don't think so. 229 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,360 Are you short-sighted, Mr Hill? Blind as a bat, actually. 230 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,480 Where are your glasses, man? They're broke. 231 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,440 Did you wear them when you saw the man? 232 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,320 No, man, they're smashed. 233 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Thank you very much, Mr Smith and again, my apologies. 234 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,680 Any sign of that poker? 235 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,200 No, sir. 236 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,840 What we looking for, guv? 237 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,280 A good recent photo of Domenica. 238 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,840 Guv... 239 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Happy as anything, weren't they? 240 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,160 Must be six, seven years ago that... 241 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,280 Anything? No... Not yet, sir. 242 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,800 All right... 243 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,280 Thank you. What sort of a place is this? 244 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Used to be a fishing village. Nice little beach this... 245 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,520 been here a few times with my wife and my daughter. 246 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,440 County built the council estate as overflow. 247 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,680 People like the Charltons, they flocked here from Newcastle. 248 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,160 Fresh air and that for the kids, nice little school, plenty of work at the power station 249 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,240 and steel plant 250 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,600 down the coast. 251 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,280 Paradise compared to Byker and Wallsend. 252 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,840 What's going on up there? 253 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,800 There's a camp site. 254 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,280 Gets used a bit in the summer. When we get one. 255 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,040 If they come back at all this year, that is. 256 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:43,000 There's a little lass fell off the cliff last year while she was playing. 257 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Not good publicity for a holiday destination, is it? 258 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,320 Paradise, you say. 259 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:57,480 But Domenica left her daughter and went to a life of drugs, alcohol and casual sex. Why's that? 260 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,160 Women are never happy. 261 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,040 I'll just pretend you didn't say that. 262 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,440 Because you can take the people out of the slums, but you can't take the slums out of the people? 263 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,760 Let's ask her husband. 264 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,120 Morning. 265 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,640 How are you feeling today? 266 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,960 Agnes, how are you today? 267 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,040 She's OK, considering. 268 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,240 Agnes, this is Sergeant Bacchus. 269 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,040 That's a funny name. 270 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,760 Yes, well he's a funny bloke. 271 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,120 Hello, Agnes. 272 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:44,080 In a little while, Agnes, I'm going to ask you to go with this nice lady 273 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,760 for a cup of tea, because I want to speak to your Dad on his own, OK? 274 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,760 Agnes should stay with me, I think. 275 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,280 You said they wouldn't get us on me own. 276 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,480 It's all right, pet. It's me they want to talk to. 277 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,040 I'm not going on me own. 278 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Well. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it, shall we? 279 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,880 For now I want to ask you both when was the last time you saw Domenica? 280 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,120 Er... months ago. I cannot be exact. 281 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,080 Agnes? 282 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Just tell the man, Agnes. It's all right. 283 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,640 She didn't go straight to her Nana's. 284 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,800 I saw her yesterday tea time. 285 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,600 After school I got the bus to Byker and went to see her. 286 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,960 Then what happened? 287 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:30,040 Well, I fell down and got me skirt muddy so she hit us. 288 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,840 And then? 289 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:37,640 She give us some juice and she said "I'm busy, go and find your Uncle Darren in the pub 290 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,880 "or go to your Nana's, but tell them not to hit you cos I've already done it", 291 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,440 so I did. 292 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,760 When I spoke to your Uncle Darren last night 293 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,800 he didn't know that you were at your Nana's. 294 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Me Uncle Darren's a drinker, isn't he, Dad? 295 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,840 He says, "Oh, Agnes, I love your mother. 296 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,240 "She's perfect." He's daft. 297 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,800 Agnes, there's nowt to laugh about. 298 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,320 Guv... can I have a word? 299 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Yes... Will you excuse us for a moment? 300 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,120 She was there last night. After the murder, outside the tenement. 301 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:21,880 She was at her Grandmother's, tucked up in bed. 302 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,160 No, no, sir. I am telling you. 303 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,720 She was there when I arrived. 304 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,880 She spoke to us. She said, "It's in there, Mister." 305 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:33,040 Get her out of there. 306 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,640 Will you bring Agnes out and sit with her in number two, please? 307 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,440 You say nothing about anything! Whoa, get back in there. 308 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,680 Say nothing about what, Agnes? 309 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,360 You won't put him in the gallows, will you? 310 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:00,720 No, we don't do that any more... 311 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,400 Agnes. 312 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Was your mother alive when you saw her last? 313 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,160 Yes, all right, go on. 314 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,200 Come on, luv. 315 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,760 No wonder she's screwed up. She saw him do it. 316 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:26,280 Don't LIE! Don't you keep lying! 317 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,480 Just tell me that you lost your temper and I'll believe you! 318 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,200 This isn't right! Your sergeant's a bully. 319 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Shut up, you. He should be given a break, something to eat. 320 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,680 A break!? You want a break! 321 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,280 I'll give you a break! 322 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:43,920 I've a mate down the corridor that brings in a rhino whip every time he talks to blokes who kill women! 323 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,320 I really object to this! He's only kidding. 324 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,200 Do I put that bit in about the rhino whip? 325 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,160 No... Put that I apologise for my rudeness to... 326 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,040 what's your name again? Simmons. 327 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,680 Sarah Simmons. Mrs Simmons. 328 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,640 Miss Simmons. 329 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,200 I'm not interested in your marital status, pet. 330 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,680 I'm not asking you out on a date, I'm asking your client to start telling the truth! 331 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,880 John. 332 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,440 May I? 333 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,520 Alan. 334 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,760 You haven't got an alibi. 335 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Your wife abandoned you and your daughter to go and live a debauched life. 336 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,400 Which the court will see as a motive. 337 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,880 And when I spoke to your daughter she said that the last time she saw her mother... she was dead. 338 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560 So is there something you'd like to get off your chest, Alan? 339 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,800 All right... 340 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Stand up, please, Mr Charlton. 341 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,040 Alan Charlton, I'm charging you with the murder 342 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,360 of your wife, Domenica Charlton on the 5th February just gone. 343 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:14,800 You do not have to say anything but anything you do say will be taken 344 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,960 down and may be used in evidence against you. Do you understand? 345 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Yes. 346 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,320 Are you really going to make me do this? 347 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Are you going to make me put Agnes in the witness box and let the prosecution loose on her? 348 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,960 She's only a bairn, man. It's your choice. 349 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,960 OK. If you won't tell me what happened, Agnes will have to. 350 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,680 Wait. 351 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,640 You do not have to say anything, and I advise you not to. 352 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,480 What about Agnes? 353 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Can they question her in court? Yes. 354 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Alan... 355 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,960 Your daughter was at your wife's house last night. I saw her. 356 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,120 I think 357 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:08,000 you murdered your wife in front of her. 358 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,920 No... 359 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,880 Now your daughter is all screwed up. 360 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,160 She loves you, she wants to protect you, 361 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,400 but she will end up telling us everything. 362 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,920 Everything. So why don't you give her a break, Alan? 363 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,840 SHE SIGHS 364 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,720 You promise you'll leave Agnes out of it? 365 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,960 You make your statement. Then I'll tell you what I will or won't do. 366 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280 I had warned 367 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Domenica time and again. 368 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:58,400 I didn't want Agnes hanging around that place if she was going to go on living like that. 369 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,000 She told me 370 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,080 Agnes was none of my business. 371 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,600 What did she mean by that? 372 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,520 Why did she cross out your name and put "Satan"? 373 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,320 Domenica was... 374 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,160 ill, Mr Gently. 375 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,640 She couldn't help herself sometimes. 376 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,880 This was just another way of... 377 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:43,440 taunting us. According to your marriage licence, you and Domenica got married 378 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,800 four months before Agnes was born, yes? 379 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,000 Agnes was an accident. 380 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,160 Domenica didn't want the bairn. 381 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,200 I made her have her. 382 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,520 She never forgave me... 383 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,840 or Agnes. 384 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,360 We "ruined her life" apparently. 385 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:07,160 So what happened last night, Alan? 386 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,080 I went 387 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,160 looking for Agnes when she didn't come home from school. 388 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,680 I found her with her mam... 389 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080 and some bloke. 390 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,920 They were both drunk. 391 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,040 I chased him. You chased him? 392 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,680 Told him to get lost. 393 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,200 He just went. 394 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,920 Did he have a Scottish accent? No. 395 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,920 No, he was local. 396 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,120 Positive? Yes, positive. Did you hit him? No. 397 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,920 Well, I might have done. 398 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,160 He just ran. 399 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Then what? I told Agnes 400 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,320 to go to her Nana's. 401 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,440 I tried 402 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,040 one last time 403 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,400 to reason with Domenica. 404 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,120 She hit us, she spat at us... 405 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,680 I lost my temper. 406 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,840 I had just 407 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,840 had enough. Then what? 408 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,440 Then what, Alan? 409 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,040 I killed her. 410 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,840 I killed Domenica. 411 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,160 How? 412 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,160 With a poker. Where is it? 413 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,360 Bottom of the North Sea. 414 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,040 Why did you cover her eyes? 415 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,560 I just... 416 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,160 I don't know why I did that. No reason? 417 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,920 I don't know. 418 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,160 You do mad things when you're in a state. 419 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,160 They were staring at us. 420 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,800 Yes, staring open, so... 421 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,320 You'll keep the bargain? Yes. 422 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,440 Agnes can go home. 423 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,960 Home? 424 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,560 She doesn't have a home now, Mr Gently. 425 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,720 Well, he can cancel the milk for about 15 years, I reckon. 426 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,480 They'll plead provocation, crime of passion, defence brief will 427 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,080 demolish the wife's reputation so he could get away with 12, actually. 428 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Fancy a drink to celebrate? No. 429 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,800 What's the matter, guv? 430 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,320 You know what's the matter. The handkerchief. 431 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,840 Somebody put in on her after she died. Why? 432 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,360 Who? 433 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,720 I don't think it was Alan Charlton. 434 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:01,040 Our blind witness talked about a man with a Scottish accent. 435 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,200 Alan said the man he found with Domenica had a local accent. So which was it? 436 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,480 What difference does it make? 437 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,040 You still don't think Charlton did it, do you? 438 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,840 Too many loose ends. 439 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:23,240 He had no alibi, he had a motive, he knew what the murder weapon was and he confessed. 440 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,840 What was all that about a rhino whip? 441 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,400 Eh? Oh, no, no, no... 442 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,120 he only does it to frighten them. 443 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,280 I've never seen him use it. 444 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,120 Well, good. Have a nice weekend. 445 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,360 Yeah, you an all, guv... 446 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,160 Nice motor. What do you want? 447 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,000 There's no need to be like that. 448 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,200 You are probably the most offensive human being I've ever met. 449 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,760 You just need to get to know us a bit better. 450 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,240 What you doing later? 451 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Ever heard the word "protocol"? What protocol? Your client's coughed. 452 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,520 Go on. 453 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,960 A little drink. Mebbes a bite to eat. 454 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,280 The Goose in Howden. Howden? Up near Kielder. 455 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000 That's miles away, isn't it? Well, do you want a drink or don't you? 456 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,320 Yeah, yeah, of course, just 457 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,640 remind me how to, er? 458 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,440 A68 towards Wooler... 459 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,280 ..follow the signs for Kielder 460 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,880 then Howden. 461 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,600 And the pub's called The Goose? 462 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,080 The Wild Goose, actually, but you can't miss it. 463 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,640 I'll be there at seven o'clock. 464 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,840 If you're not, I'll be gone at five past. 465 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,960 No, no, no, I'll be there. 466 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,600 "DR WHO" IS ON THE TELEVISION 467 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,200 KNOCK ON DOOR 468 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,800 GENTLY: Evening, Mrs Paige. Could I see Agnes please? 469 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,560 I told you he'd come. Of course. Agnes, just... 470 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,200 I will need to speak to her alone. 471 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Come in. Thank you. 472 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,560 He wants to talk to Agnes on her own. 473 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,120 She's upset, man, she won't know what... Would you mind, please? 474 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,880 How are you, Agnes? 475 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,400 I'm OK. 476 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,640 There's something I have to ask you. 477 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,320 It's nothing to worry about. 478 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,760 Cos it makes no difference to what will happen to your Dad. 479 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,560 Do you understand? 480 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,440 Were you there when your Dad hit your Mammy? 481 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,440 No. I ran away. 482 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,000 Was there anybody else in the room? 483 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,520 No. 484 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Did you go back in? 485 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,320 Afterwards? 486 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,840 Why, Agnes? 487 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,000 To see her. She was dead. 488 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880 Did you do anything? 489 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,320 Could you tell me about it? 490 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,520 Her eyes were open. 491 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,800 I put me hankie over her. Like this. 492 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,280 Excuse me. 493 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Is there a pub round here? What, here? 494 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,280 Yeah. Here. Is this Howden? 495 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Aye. But there's no pub here. 496 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,640 What pub you looking for? 497 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,360 It's called The Goose... 498 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520 Or The Wild Goose? 499 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,840 I think somebody was having us on. 500 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,360 Sorry. 501 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,360 The Wild Goose chase...very clever. 502 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,080 In goal, Ronnie Simpson. Right back, Bobby Cowell. 503 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,600 Left back, Ron Batty. 504 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,200 Right half Jimmy Scoular. Outside right, Len White. 505 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,520 It was Agnes. She covered her mother's face. 506 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,840 Poor little lass. 507 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,560 And Outside Left, Bobby Mitchell! 508 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,560 Thank you and goodnight, sensation seekers everywhere. 509 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,760 Used to come here with John. 510 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,320 When we could drag him away from the pub or work. 511 00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:27,000 I feel sorry for him, cos he'll turn round in 15 years 512 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,000 and say, "Oh, Leigh Ann's all grown up and I missed it." 513 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,040 But he sees her, doesn't he? Yeah, he has her every other weekend. 514 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,240 But what does he do? 515 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:41,920 He buys her things. He doesn't know how to do anything with her. 516 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,360 When I go to pick her up she can't wait to leave. 517 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,200 She never mentions him any more. 518 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,720 She's forgetting him. 519 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:55,200 I don't want her to grow up without a Dad. 520 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,160 What's that mean? It means I'm going to ask for a divorce. 521 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,080 And I'm going to find somebody else. 522 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,480 For me and for her. 523 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,960 I shouldn't really. She's never seen her mam smoke. 524 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,720 I'll take her for a paddle. 525 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,880 Would you? Yes. 526 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,400 Come on, sweetheart, let's go for a paddle. Come on. 527 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,560 You can bring your bucket. 528 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,080 You don't need your spade. 529 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,760 All right, bring your spade, come on. 530 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,920 Won't be long, Geraint, then we'll go on the beach now, OK? 531 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,120 Cup of tea first, though. 532 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600 No, straight to the beach. 533 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,400 Isn't that right, Geraint? 534 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,360 Straight to the beach as soon as I park the car. 535 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,960 Geraint? 536 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,880 Geraint! Geraint! 537 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,400 Geraint! Geraint! 538 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,600 Geraint! 539 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,960 Geraint! Geraint! 540 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,920 Geraint! 541 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,760 What's going on? I found him on the steps down to the beach. 542 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,400 "Going for a paddle", he said. 543 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,400 See you. Have a nice holiday. 544 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,040 Hey, thanks. 545 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,600 Who was that masked man? 546 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,400 That was The Lone Ranger. 547 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,000 You're supposed to be on holiday. 548 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,600 This is personal. 549 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,920 So what are you trying to do... 550 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,000 make me look like a fool? Do you think you need help? 551 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,120 I went round to my in-laws yesterday afternoon. 552 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,560 Have you any idea what that costs me? 553 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,120 Why... did you take a taxi? 554 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,920 I had to grovel. 555 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,520 "Can I please see my daughter?" 556 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,240 "No, you can't, it's the wrong weekend and anyway they're out. 557 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:18,480 With Mr Gently again. 558 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,080 Well, as you said, it wasn't your weekend. OK, what's going on? 559 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,680 There are people 560 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,080 laughing at me. 561 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,240 Who is laughing at you exactly? 562 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,560 Everybody. You fancy a cup of tea? 563 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,520 Get out. Get out. 564 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,240 I'll tell you what's going on. 565 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:39,280 Your wife is lonely and confused. 566 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,440 Has been confused. I don't think she is any more. 567 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,720 She just wanted a friendly face to talk to. 568 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,080 You can talk on the phone. 569 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,400 You don't need to take them both on days out. 570 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,400 Hang on. "Has been" 571 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,320 confused. What does that mean? 572 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,400 There are two things not going on between me and your wife. 573 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,640 The first one is so obvious I'm not even going to say it. 574 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,200 Everybody else is. The second is that I am not a go-between. 575 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,760 If you want to know what's on your wife's mind, you go and ask her. 576 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,040 You're looking for a smack in the gob, mate. 577 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,920 Sir. There's a two-year-old boy's gone missing from a camp site. 578 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,160 Taylor, this is CID, it's not the Mountain Rescue Team. 579 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,040 Why don't you come back when there's a crime. 580 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,600 How long's he been missing? 581 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,480 22 hours, sir. That's too long. 582 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,000 Bring me the details. 583 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,960 OK if I come along, guv? 584 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,960 He's called Robin. According to his folks he's never wandered off before. 585 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,840 Thanks, love. 586 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,240 Robin... Robin... 587 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:55,600 Robin, where are you? 588 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,560 Robin... 589 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,960 Darren? 590 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,480 Oi! 591 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:15,240 Hello. Me and me mam moved into Alan's house with Agnes. I heard a little lad's gone missing. 592 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,200 That's just the other side of the camp site, isn't it? 593 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,760 No, no... It's a long way away from the camp site. 594 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,800 How is Agnes? 595 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,480 Just watching the telly with her Nana. 596 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,720 I think I'd better go and make the tea. 597 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:39,040 Is there anybody in that family that's not totally crackers? 598 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,880 It's going to be dark soon. 599 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,600 I don't like this. 600 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,360 That little boy who went over the cliff last year. How far away? 601 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,560 That was half a mile. It was a little girl. 602 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,160 What killed her? 603 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,320 Injuries sustained in the fall as far as I remember. 604 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,760 You know it was an accident. Kids were playing on the cliff edge and, er... 605 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:12,840 She fell over. And the kids didn't tell anybody, so they didn't find the body until the next morning. 606 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,000 So the other kids actually saw it happen? 607 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,120 It wasn't my case, guv. 608 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,040 I just think the kids denied being there in case they got into trouble. 609 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,680 So we don't know how she went over? 610 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,600 Who found her? 611 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,000 I don't know... 612 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Taylor!? Sir. 613 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,600 Remember that kid that fell over the cliff last year... 614 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,360 who found her? Er... 615 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,960 Some bloke passing by. 616 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,800 I took the call myself. 617 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,600 What he was just walking his dog on the beach? 618 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,640 No, he was on his way to work in the steel works. 619 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,840 Five o'clock in the morning. 620 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,880 He's walking to work along the beach? 621 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,560 No, no, he said he was driving along in his car on the top road. 622 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,760 Sir, you can't see the bottom of the cliff from the road. 623 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,760 Get me that man's details and I want the forensic on that dead girl. 624 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,400 On my desk tomorrow morning. Come on. 625 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,760 Mr McManus? 626 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,600 Aye? We'd like to talk to you about the death of Laura Gadd last year. Is there somewhere we can go? 627 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:41,440 Yeah. 628 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:48,360 So. You stopped the car because you needed a crap and that is why 629 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,720 you went down to the beach and that is where you found the body of little Laura Gadd... 630 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,480 That's right. 631 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,520 Do you expect me to believe that? 632 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,680 There's nothing in your statement about being caught short. 633 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,600 Well... I was a bit embarrassed, know what I mean? You were a two minute drive from work... 634 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,000 You couldn't wait two minutes. What? 635 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,840 Are there no toilets here? Have you never needed a crap, Sergeant? 636 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,480 I've never needed a crap detector. 637 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,200 Not when it's a pile as big as this. 638 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:21,200 I understand you were once cautioned for a sexual offence, Mr McManus. 639 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,680 Ten years ago. The girl told me she was over 16. 640 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,240 How the hell was I supposed to know? Like them young, do you? 641 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:30,480 Look, the police believed us or they'd've charged me. 642 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,400 No, no, a caution is a charge. 643 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,760 Do you like little boys as well, Neil? 644 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,440 What's this about? 645 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,320 There's a campsite near the cliff top. Do you know it? 646 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,280 No. Never been there? What's this about? 647 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,640 A little boy went missing from there on Sunday. You must know about that. 648 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,840 Yeah, I heard about it. So? 649 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,880 Come on, 650 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,520 you're pulling my leg. 651 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,000 Where were you Sunday afternoon and evening? At home. 652 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,680 Alone? 653 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,040 No, my wife was there. So your wife could corroborate that? 654 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,760 I was out... 655 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,760 I was out for a drive. On my own. I was just driving around. 656 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,520 Really? 657 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,280 Anybody vouch for that? No. No... 658 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,200 I need you to come down to the station with us, please. 659 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,480 Have his wife brought in. 660 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,240 He was lying though, wasn't he, sir? 661 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:37,640 100%. I love it when Jocks think they're clever. 662 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:43,880 Excuse me. Is there any corner of mankind that you don't have some kind of problem with, Sergeant? 663 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,280 Rhetorical question, I presume that. 664 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,840 I just want to dig deeper into Rob Roy's past, OK? Sir? 665 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,080 Busy. There's a bloke called Williams here. 666 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,160 Says some man's been behaving suspiciously with his young lad at the campsite. 667 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,960 And this was definitely Sunday, same day Robin Pershore was taken away? 668 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,600 Yeah, we'd just arrived, see? 669 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:13,400 We'd left Geraint sitting in the car, only he wandered off the way he does and this chap had his hand. 670 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,320 Leading him away? Or bringing him back? 671 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080 Well, it's hard to tell, isn't it... 672 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,680 We spotted them and shouted, you see. 673 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,720 Would you recognise this man again? 674 00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:26,480 Oh, yes. Can you describe him? 675 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,840 Big fella, fair hair and he had a beard. 676 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,080 Hello, Agnes. Hello. 677 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,600 Is your Uncle Darren in? 678 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,840 No. 679 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,480 Do you know where he is? 680 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,400 He's on me Dad's allotment. He's took it over. 681 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,400 Right. Where's that? 682 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:01,360 Where is it, Agnes? 683 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,520 They tell me you have something more to say. 684 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,360 I was with a lass called Angela. 685 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,600 On Sunday. Angela. 686 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,080 That's a nice name. 687 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,680 Tell me about Angela. 688 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,800 She was the wee girl that showed you where I was today. 689 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,960 Very nice. And? 690 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,320 The wife doesn't have to know about this, does she? 691 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,640 About what? Angela's married to the next-door neighbour. 692 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,040 Oh dear. 693 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,240 We have to be careful, obviously. Obviously. 694 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,720 So we do it in the car. 695 00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:43,200 And that's what you were doing on Sunday afternoon? 696 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,720 Angela. 697 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:46,480 Yeah. 698 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,680 And she'll tell me the same story? 699 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,080 If she has to. She will have to. 700 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,160 So you're not satisfied within the marriage, I take it? 701 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,600 Angela the only woman you're seeing outside the marriage? 702 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,480 What's that got to...? Just answer. 703 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,800 Look... 704 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,920 I get it where I can. OK with you? 705 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,440 Perfectly. 706 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,840 Does the name Domenica Charlton mean anything to you? 707 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,360 No. 708 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,040 What? 709 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,640 Is that the tart that was done in by her husband? 710 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,640 Got what was coming to her. 711 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,320 Because? 712 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,840 Shagging other men? 713 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,280 Oh-ho! I'd have done the same if I was him. 714 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,960 I see. But you never knew her? 715 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,160 No. 716 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,800 So, you and Angela. 717 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,400 Angela is married, you said? 718 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,160 Yeah. 719 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,400 Well, let's hope her husband doesn't give her what's coming to her, eh? 720 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,360 You give her a lift to work, I take it? 721 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,640 That's how it all started. 722 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,960 Every so often you find a deserted bit of cliff top, 723 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,880 pull the car over and start the day with a smile. 724 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,400 On the beach? 725 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,600 On the back seat. In a lay-by. 726 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:23,480 Mr McManus, we've already established that you can't see the beach from the road. 727 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,880 So how come you found the body of Laura Gadd? 728 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,520 Somebody else found it. Came tapping on the car window. 729 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,920 A man. Can you describe him? 730 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,480 Heavy-set bloke, fair hair. 731 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:47,960 Mr Paige can I have a... 732 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,000 Oi! 733 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,840 Get off, get off! Get Off! 734 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,160 Hands behind your back. 735 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,840 There he was at the window. 736 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,240 I'm trying to get me pants up and Angela's trying to... All right. 737 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,240 What did he say? 738 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,560 "There's a girl dead on the beach, you better call the police." 739 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,560 Then what? Then he ran off. 740 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,440 I went down to the beach and found the wee girl and... 741 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,640 then I phoned the police. 742 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,400 Why didn't you mention this man to the police? 743 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,840 He saw what we we're doing. 744 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,480 I didn't want him saying anything to the police about me and Angela. 745 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,800 Which way did he run? 746 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,040 Towards High Blyth. Would you recognise him if you saw him again? 747 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,360 I don't know. It was a year ago. 748 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,680 The windows were all steamed up, you know? 749 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,680 Angela confirmed your alibi. 750 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,320 You're free to go. 751 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,080 If I were you, I'd modify my behaviour in future. 752 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,760 If my granny had handlebars, she'd be a fish. 753 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,440 Yes... 754 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,120 You have no reason not to answer this question truthfully. 755 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:19,160 Is this the man who tapped on your car window and told you there was a dead girl on the beach a year ago? 756 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,560 That's him right enough. 757 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,760 Good. Nice meeting you. Give my love to Angela. 758 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,600 Mr Williams. 759 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,120 Is this the man who had your son's hand on Sunday? Please be sure. 760 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,920 I'm not sure. 761 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,560 Would you like a closer look? 762 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,760 What were you going to do to my son? 763 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,040 What were you going to do to him?! 764 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,320 HE WHIMPERS What were you going to do to him?! 765 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,120 I'll kill him! 766 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,840 What were you going to do to him?! 767 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,040 You were present at the scene of one death - Laura Gadd - a year ago 768 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,680 and one abduction - Robin Pershore - on Sunday! This is no coincidence! 769 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,960 Where is he, Darren? 770 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,200 You tell me what you've done with Robin Pershore! 771 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,240 You tell me or I swear 772 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,880 I will beat it out of you! 773 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,440 Don't let him hit us, please. I wouldn't dream of stopping him. 774 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,560 HE SCREAMS AND WHIMPERS 775 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,920 Tell us! 776 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,120 Tell me! 777 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,880 Tell me! He's in the shed! 778 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520 He's in the shed. 779 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,880 Oh, God! The shed, I didn't look. 780 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,600 SIREN WAILS 781 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,680 Come on. There we go. 782 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,960 There you go. They'll take you home to Mummy. Go on. 783 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,800 There's food and drink in there and all. Looks like he's been well cared for. 784 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,880 Good. 785 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,120 Darren Paige, I'm charging you with abduction and false imprisonment. 786 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,000 You do not have to say anything, but anything you do say will be taken down 787 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,280 and may be used in evidence against you. 788 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,880 You'll also have to answer questions about the death of Laura Gadd. 789 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,120 Did you push her off the cliff, Darren? 790 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,280 Huh? 791 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,160 Huh? No? 792 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,280 How did you know her body was there then? 793 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,800 Look... 794 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,440 ..you want to do it the easy way this time, Darren, or the hard way? 795 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,200 Hard way then. No, please. 796 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,040 I'll leave you to it, John. 797 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,880 My sergeant's less inhibited when I'm not here. 798 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,840 How did you know her body was on the beach? I'll come back in half an hour, John? 799 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,640 HE SCREAMS Agnes! Agnes told me! 800 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,680 Agnes told you? 801 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,800 Don't be pathetic, man. 802 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,080 He's lying, guv. 803 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,920 Any idea where I can find her? 804 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,200 All she said was she was going out to play. 805 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,440 You could try the campsite. 806 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,920 Where are the kids? 807 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,840 DISTANT VOICES SING 808 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,320 809 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,400 810 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,040 811 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,560 812 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,480 813 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,360 814 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,000 You have to pick me, it's my game. 815 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,880 816 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,120 817 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,000 818 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,400 819 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,040 Agnes? 820 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,120 What's funny, Agnes? 821 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,680 Yous. 822 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,880 Yous think you can see us. 823 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,360 I know you cannot. 824 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,880 Maybe he wasn't lying. 825 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,280 Tell the Press Office I want nothing leaked about this. She must have anonymity. 826 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:09,200 The papers'll have her name before the day's out. Somebody here will tell somebody something. 827 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,040 John, this is a case like any other. 828 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,600 Not any more, it isn't. 829 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,840 She's been given a solicitor. 830 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,280 Oh, you're joking! 831 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,360 You think I asked for it? Her dad asked me to take this on. 832 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,880 Great. Sort yourselves out. 833 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,400 OK, look. It was a childish prank. I apologise. 834 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,320 No hard feelings? 835 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,960 Apologise to her. 836 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,120 I apologise. 837 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,760 Good. 838 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,760 We have reason to suspect that Agnes may have been involved in the death of Laura Gadd 839 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,440 who disappeared from a campsite near her home. 840 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,520 Her uncle is lying to save his own neck. Possibly, 841 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,680 but I have to question Agnes just like I would any other suspect. She says she knows nothing, 842 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,720 but I think she's being loyal to her uncle. She's a child. 843 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:13,080 If you'd been at that campsite, and seen the look on her face as she singled out this little lad... 844 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,280 There is such a thing as evil. Evil? 845 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,840 Is this the line your questioning's going to take? No, it isn't. 846 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,240 I don't believe in evil people, but I do believe in evil actions. 847 00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:27,280 I feel there's a lot we don't know about Agnes. She's clearly disturbed. 848 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,920 Then she should be in a psychiatric unit, not a police station. Maybe. 849 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,000 Right now I have to decide if she's a killer. 850 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,080 How are they treating you at the children's home, Agnes? They're horrible. 851 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:50,160 All you get is, "How do you feel? How do you feel?" They're like the Daleks. 852 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,120 And how do you feel, Agnes? 853 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,520 What am I getting wrong for? Just for playing The Farmer's In His Den? 854 00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,240 How is it you were able to tell your Uncle Darren about Laura Gadd's body being on the beach, Agnes? 855 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:03,040 I didn't. Why's he saying that? 856 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,440 Now why do you think he might say that if it wasn't true? 857 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,120 I don't want to get me Uncle Darren in trouble. 858 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,720 It's all right. You must tell us the truth, Agnes. 859 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:19,240 Did you tell Uncle Darren where to find Laura Gadd's body? 860 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:20,760 I don't even know who she is. 861 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,880 You do know who she is, Agnes. 862 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,840 How did you know her body was there? I don't know what you're talking about, man. 863 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,760 She fell off the cliff playing Blind Man's Buff, anyway. 864 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,280 How do you know that? It was in the Chronicle. 865 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,560 Where were you three days ago, Agnes, when little Robin Pershore was taken away from the campsite? 866 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,440 You don't have to answer that, Agnes, if you don't want to. 867 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,200 I thought we were here to talk about what happened to Laura Gadd. Yes, we are. 868 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,960 And the abduction of Robin Pershore. Why have you got a funny name? 869 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,360 Never mind that! Where were you on Sunday? 870 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,840 If you have bairns, they'll get the funny name. 871 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,320 Barney and Beryl Bacchus. Just answer the question, please, Agnes. 872 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,400 They'll get laughed at. It'll be your fault. 873 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:06,080 Have you got a bairn? I bet you cannot see her! Why don't you just shut your face, Agnes?! 874 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,600 OK. 875 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,960 Is this your client refusing to answer questions, is it? Go and get a cup of tea, John. 876 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,640 Guv. Go and get a cup of tea. 877 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,640 Hello there. Would I be speaking to Domenica? Domenica? 878 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,160 Domenica's dead. I'm so sorry. How embarrassing. 879 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,280 That's local bureaucracy for you. 880 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,800 Sorry, you would be? Her mother. 881 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,160 Right. My name's David Cohen, I'm with the Children's Department. 882 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,680 I've been sent here to speak with you for a few minutes. 883 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:07,720 It's about a...young relation of yours, I believe. 884 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,800 Your grand-daughter, possibly? 885 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,320 Agnes? 886 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,480 Agnes. Yes, that's right. Agnes. 887 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,400 You better come in. Thank you. 888 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,360 So Agnes's dad murdered her mother? 889 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,080 Wow. 890 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,040 Yes, I think it's starting to ring a bell, actually. 891 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,160 Did nobody tell you this? 892 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:35,520 Would you believe that? No. My first day on a new job, a stranger to the region, and they tell me nothing. 893 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,200 In at the deep end. You don't mind if I take notes do you, Mrs Paige? 894 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,840 I want to keep myself straight. 895 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:46,400 Surely to God they put it in the notes. Yes, you'd think so, wouldn't you? 896 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,440 No. 897 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,800 HE TUTS 898 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,480 Shocking. 899 00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:01,680 How am I expected to be Agnes's case worker if they don't give me all the facts? 900 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,760 Case worker? Did I not say? I'm in charge of Agnes's welfare while she's in care. 901 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,480 Agnes says you're lying, Darren. 902 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,640 She also says you're daft and you're a drinker 903 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,720 and you told her that you loved her mother, your own sister. 904 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,040 Do you think you're a normal person, Darren? 905 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,040 I didn't mean to get Agnes in trouble. 906 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,440 Well, you have. She's in care 907 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:29,760 and she'll have half of Fleet Street trying to find out her name and address by now. All because of you. 908 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,920 Oh, look. Waterworks again. 909 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,120 Are you a lass, really, Darren? 910 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,440 Or a bit of a queer bloke? What did you say you did to Laura Gadd before you pushed her? 911 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,400 I didn't do anything to anybody. 912 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:50,160 So you're sticking to your story that it was Agnes who told you where the body was? 913 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,440 What about Geraint Williams then? 914 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:59,480 I found him with Agnes. She was just taking him for a walk, she said. 915 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,120 And tell me, Mrs. Paige, what do the neighbours think of all this? 916 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,760 A 13-year-old girl being questioned over the death of a toddler. 917 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,720 Are they being hostile? What did you say your name was again? 918 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,760 Mrs Paige, would you say that 919 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,640 what happened to your daughter Domenica was...evil? 920 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,160 Yes. 921 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,480 And would you say that where evil exists, it can sometimes 922 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,920 maybe be...passed on? 923 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,680 I would. 924 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,280 From a father to a child, perhaps? 925 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,720 There's an evil seed. 926 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,720 I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that. 927 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,480 An evil seed. There's such a thing as an evil seed. 928 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,600 (An evil seed.) 929 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,680 Sorry I lost me temper with Agnes, OK? 930 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,040 You can't bring that stuff into work, John. Yes, yes, I know. 931 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,240 I've said I'm sorry. 932 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,920 One of them is lying, sir. 933 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,600 Agnes has a history of covering up for the men in her family, yes, 934 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,680 but...I think it's Darren, 935 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,680 I do. And I think that you should let me have half an hour on me own with him. 936 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,720 Sir? Miss Simmons wants to take Agnes back to the children's home. Is that OK? 937 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,240 No. Tell Sarah I want another hour with Agnes. 938 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,040 I need to question her about her mother's murder. OK, sir. 939 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,040 "Sarah," is it? Why not ask her out on a date while you're about it? 940 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,520 Maybe because I'm not an idiot like you are. 941 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,240 Why are we going back to the murder of the mother? 942 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,320 I'll take the lead this time. You keep quiet. 943 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,840 Did the canteen send you something nice for your tea, Agnes? 944 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,760 She didn't eat. Why was that? 945 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,360 How could I eat with her looking at us? Who? 946 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,280 Her. Anybody. 947 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,760 You don't like people watching you eat? Why's that? 948 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,400 Because they're not supposed to see you. 949 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,280 Why not? Why must nobody see you? 950 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,880 Why is he staring at us all the time? 951 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,360 You think I'm horrible, don't you, Mr Funny Name? 952 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,120 You think I killed a little girl. Why does he not say summat? 953 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,680 Look, this is not helping. I didn't kill anybody, I was just playing. 954 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,520 When was this, Agnes? 955 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,240 When are we talking about? 956 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,400 Playing when? Playing what? 957 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,640 Why do you have to ask me so many questions? 958 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,640 Because I'm a police officer investigating a murder. 959 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,000 Go and get Taylor. What? 960 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,520 Just do it. 961 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,800 Could you tell us exactly what you saw and did the night your mum died? 962 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,520 No. Why not? 963 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,200 Cos I was never there. Well, yes, you were there, Agnes, 964 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,280 cos you've already told us that. 965 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,480 I went to get Uncle Darren out the pub. 966 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,960 We went to me nana's and I went straight to bed. 967 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,400 No, you didn't. Your Uncle Darren didn't know you were there. 968 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,760 That's what he says. He tells lies. 969 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,880 Agnes, it is very important 970 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,960 that you tell us what happened when your dad arrived and found you there. 971 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,760 Nothing. I know he's told you not to say anything, but he's wrong. 972 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,960 There was somebody else there, wasn't there? A man. 973 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,120 Was it somebody you knew? You don't have to answer, Agnes. 974 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:38,040 Why did you go back and cover your mum's eyes with a hankie? 975 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,040 I think he's the evil monster what's got X-ray eyes. 976 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,440 Are you off Doctor Who with them eyes? 977 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,920 You've had your hour. Taylor. 978 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,440 The newspaper accounts of Laura Gadd's death. 979 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,600 Could Agnes have read an account of Laura 980 01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,120 and the other kids from the campsite paying Blind Man's Buff on the cliff? 981 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,040 Yes. That was in the papers, sir. 982 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,320 See? Why? 983 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,880 Why what, sir? Why were those things in the papers? 984 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,320 I thought you said the kids refused to say anything for fear of getting into trouble? 985 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:17,760 Yes, you're right. So why do you say that Laura Gadd was playing Blind Man's Buff? 986 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,840 It was obvious, cos of the blindfold, sir. 987 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,520 Tell me that again? 988 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,600 Why else would she have had a blindfold on? 989 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,040 Laura Gadd was found dead wearing a blindfold? 990 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,200 Yes, sir. 991 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:41,440 Why did you go back into your mum's room and cover her eyes? Time's up. 992 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,200 Thank you. 993 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,800 This is probably against some Home Office rule somewhere, 994 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,600 but thank you for meeting me. 995 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,280 So what is it that you want to say to me? 996 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,880 Look, Sarah. 997 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,000 Something has happened to this girl. 998 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,120 I thought at first it was the murder of her mother, 999 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,440 but the death of Laura Gadd predates that by a year. 1000 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,840 But you can't prove any connection between Agnes and Laura Gadd. 1001 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,560 No proof yet, but compelling evidence. 1002 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,520 So what I wanted to say was this - 1003 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:27,720 if it does come to criminal charges, I will do anything in my power 1004 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,560 to help her through this ordeal. 1005 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,120 You're a decent man, George. 1006 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,560 If and when I do have to charge her, they'll be a lot of press interest 1007 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,400 so I'll try to put a ring of steel around her and her family. 1008 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:47,520 I will also urge the court not to name her unless she's found guilty. 1009 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,600 Sorry. You'll get it back in a second. 1010 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,480 Too late. 1011 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,960 "13-year-old Agnes Charlton." 1012 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,720 They've even identified the care home. 1013 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:15,760 Inspector... Inspector... Has she been charged yet? No comment! 1014 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,600 Has she been charged yet? Any information at all? 1015 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,720 Sir, where have you been? I've been... 1016 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,800 Have you seen this? 1017 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,880 I will ask you this just once and I will believe your answer. Was this you? 1018 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,640 No. Do you know who it was? No, I don't. Good. 1019 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:41,320 Agnes has been moved to a new place, and I've got uniformed men outside the house in High Blyth. 1020 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,640 What are we doing now, charging her or not? 1021 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,920 Have you examined Agnes's school and medical records? Yes. 1022 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,320 Did you find anything? 1023 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,240 A few broken bones, and she bunks off school sometimes. 1024 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,800 Nothing else? No. 1025 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,840 Is your heart in this? I don't think it is. 1026 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,600 Have you talked to anybody? Guv, I'm a copper, not a social worker! 1027 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,880 Do I look like a lass with a degree in making tea? 1028 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,960 This is not our job. What? 1029 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,760 Sir, Darren Paige would like to talk to you. 1030 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,880 I take back what I said about Agnes. 1031 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,800 You were right. I was pathetic. 1032 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,560 I did it. 1033 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,080 I took both those little lads away. 1034 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:27,920 Agnes had nothing to do with it. 1035 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,160 I killed that little lass and all. 1036 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,480 Tell me how you left Laura Gadd. 1037 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,280 What? Tell me how you left her. 1038 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,240 Did you do anything unusual? 1039 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,200 Did you leave anything on her? 1040 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,560 Erm... 1041 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,400 I'm sick of lies. 1042 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,720 Do you have any comments for us, sir? 1043 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,240 I've no comment for you. 1044 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,200 Chief Inspector, has the child been charged? 1045 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,320 What's the evil seed, Mrs Paige? 1046 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,120 Or who? 1047 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,920 I never said that. 1048 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,400 That liar from the paper made it all up. 1049 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,640 Do you believe there is evil in human beings? Some. 1050 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,120 Do you think Agnes is evil? 1051 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,240 HE SIGHS 1052 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:45,680 We are trying to help Agnes, Mrs Paige, I promise you that. 1053 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,600 But I need to know the truth. 1054 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,360 Help me to help her. 1055 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,480 HE SIGHS 1056 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,360 We either charge her, guv, or we let her go home. 1057 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,120 If she's innocent, if her behaviour is all about the family she came from 1058 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,240 charging her with murder would just be one more act of abuse. 1059 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,680 She'll never recover. 1060 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,200 This is a child, John. 1061 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,240 Yes. A child who has killed a little kid and abducted another one 1062 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,080 and was out choosing a third by the time we got hold of her. 1063 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,600 She needs to be taken out of society 1064 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,520 and society is relying on us to do that - me and you. 1065 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:35,320 Not Sarah Simmons. She gets paid to get people off whether they've done it or not. 1066 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,680 We get paid to get it right. And what is "getting it right" in a case like this? 1067 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,560 She'll do it again. 1068 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:51,400 If a dog savages your baby in a pram you don't say, "Oh, never mind, it's only a little puppy," do you?! 1069 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,560 No, you don't! You get it put down! 1070 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,320 I didn't mean that literally. 1071 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:03,840 Do you remember taking a little boy for a walk on the campsite last week? 1072 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,120 I wasn't on the campsite last week. 1073 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,440 Or any week. I've never been on the campsite. 1074 01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:13,160 Why would I even go on the campsite when I haven't got a tent? 1075 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,760 You were on the campsite when we found you, Agnes. 1076 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,560 That was the first time ever! 1077 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:22,040 So it wasn't you who took a little boy called Geraint for a walk? 1078 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,720 Geray-ant? Is he the Jolly Giant? 1079 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,680 Everyone's got stupid, funny names these days. 1080 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:33,360 Answer my question, please. I was never on the campsite, 1081 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,520 so how could I take a Jolly Giant for a walk? 1082 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,240 Well, your Uncle Darren says you did and I believe him. 1083 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:49,800 I also believe that you took Robin Pershore later the same day. 1084 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,720 Did you? 1085 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,760 Why, Agnes? 1086 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,240 Tell us why. 1087 01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:14,640 Help me to understand. 1088 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,600 I just wanted them kiddies to know what it's like, sir. 1089 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,920 What what's like, Agnes? 1090 01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:29,520 What it's like when no-one can see you any more. 1091 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,120 When you don't exist, really. 1092 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,680 Will you stand up for me please, Agnes? 1093 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,080 Agnes Charlton, I am charging you with murder 1094 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,040 and with two counts of abduction. 1095 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,320 You do not have to say anything, 1096 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,440 but anything that you do say will be taken down 1097 01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:13,360 and may be used in evidence against you. 1098 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,120 Do you understand? 1099 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,520 Does it mean I can go home now? 1100 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,360 All this is all going to be about now is punishment. 1101 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,960 That doesn't make sense. 1102 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,600 I'm a policeman. 1103 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,280 Before that, I was a soldier. 1104 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,000 All I've ever known is a world 1105 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,160 where people are held responsible for their actions. Even children? 1106 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,560 How can it be otherwise? 1107 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,640 And that little girl that she killed. And all the others that she would 1108 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,240 have killed - there has to be justice for them and their families. 1109 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,280 Through retribution. Through retribution, yeah. 1110 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,560 Society doesn't have any other way. 1111 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,600 Well, that won't give them peace of mind, George. What will? 1112 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,480 Understanding. 1113 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:06,640 An explanation. 1114 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,520 There already is an explanation if the papers are to be believed. 1115 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,240 Yeah. Some babies are just born evil. 1116 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,120 What would you have me do? 1117 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,240 You're a critic of the system you work in, George, 1118 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,800 but you belong to it in the end. 1119 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,440 So do I. 1120 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,880 Because now I have to walk her through some mindless process which 1121 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:32,400 has absolutely no interest at all in the truth about Agnes Charlton. 1122 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,920 She settle down? 1123 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,440 Eventually, sir. 1124 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,520 Look, guv, I'm sorry. 1125 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,160 I know we haven't seen eye to eye on this one, but... 1126 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:35,480 ..I do think it was the right result. 1127 01:14:35,480 --> 01:14:37,600 We did our job. 1128 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,000 Why don't you go home? 1129 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,280 Why? There's no-one there. 1130 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,480 All over between you and Lisa, John? 1131 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,640 Bar the shouting, yeah. 1132 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,160 I phoned earlier on 1133 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,040 to say goodnight to Leigh Ann and... 1134 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,640 ..she was busy. 1135 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:19,680 Watching telly. 1136 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,920 I'm sorry. 1137 01:15:24,440 --> 01:15:27,040 Could have been her, you know, guv. 1138 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,200 It could have been Leigh Ann next going for a walk with Agnes. 1139 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,320 I kept thinking about that. 1140 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,600 You broke your promise. 1141 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,840 You said Agnes would never be in a courtroom. 1142 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,840 She won't be going into a witness box, 1143 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,160 because I believe she'll plead guilty. 1144 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,160 And yet, we need to tell her story, don't we? 1145 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,080 She didn't kill anybody. 1146 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,120 Well, yes, she did, Alan. 1147 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,880 She blindfolded Laura Gadd and pushed her off a cliff. 1148 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,880 Why? 1149 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,320 What turned your daughter into a killer? 1150 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:15,000 A year before you murdered her mother? 1151 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,040 Let's start at the beginning, shall we? 1152 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,360 You're not Agnes's father, are you? 1153 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,760 She never admitted who the father was. 1154 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,240 I wanted to marry her anyway. 1155 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,520 I didn't care she was carrying another man's bairn. 1156 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,880 Who was her father? 1157 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,000 Do you know? Who was "Satan"? 1158 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,600 Was Domenica a prostitute, Alan? 1159 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,000 No. But she saw a lot of men. 1160 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,880 Didn't she? And that made you jealous, and so you killed her. 1161 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,160 At least that's what you told the jury. 1162 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,000 But why mustn't Agnes give evidence? 1163 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:05,400 What good will this do? In terms of her sentence, none. 1164 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,280 Agnes is going to spend a good many years in custodial care, 1165 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,000 but that doesn't mean it's the end of her life, Alan, 1166 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,880 because it depends on the help she can get. 1167 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,520 Nobody can help her if nobody knows. 1168 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:24,480 To help her to a future, I need to understand her past. 1169 01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:26,720 I'd like to understand as well. 1170 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,720 I have a daughter. 1171 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,040 And she has a broken home. 1172 01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:41,120 I've hurt her. And she's angry. 1173 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,840 I think Agnes is angry, don't you? 1174 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,760 When Agnes was born... 1175 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,120 ..the first day of her life... 1176 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,040 ..Domenica tried to suffocate her. 1177 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,760 A nurse saw. 1178 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,760 Post-natal depression, they said. 1179 01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:08,080 But, Mr Gently... 1180 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,840 ..Domenica kept trying. 1181 01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:18,600 Eventually, I had her sectioned... 1182 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,400 ..and I took Agnes to the coast to start a new life. 1183 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,040 But Agnes kept going back to her, 1184 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,040 even though you'd taken her away? 1185 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,280 They were drawn to each other. 1186 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,520 There is evil in this world, Inspector. 1187 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,680 Take my word for it. 1188 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:41,960 There is evil. 1189 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,720 And when he came back into Domenica's life...I had to stop it. 1190 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,040 Who? 1191 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,280 Agnes's father. 1192 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,240 Was he the man in the room that night? The Scotsman? 1193 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,400 When I saw... 1194 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,760 ..what was happening in that room... 1195 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:06,800 ..something snapped. 1196 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:14,880 I hit him twice with a poker, but Domenica threw herself at us. 1197 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,520 I just... 1198 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,720 hit her and hit her. 1199 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,680 He was gone. 1200 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,680 Agnes was gone as well. 1201 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,520 Who was it? 1202 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,400 He's their father. 1203 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,960 He's Domenica's father... 1204 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,560 ..and he's Agnes's father. 1205 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,160 Mrs Paige know about this? Aye, she does. 1206 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:02,680 I don't know about Darren. 1207 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,560 What does Darren ever know? 1208 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,880 But they both knew what I didn't know. 1209 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,800 He'd come back to find Domenica. 1210 01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:18,720 They knew that and they didn't tell us. 1211 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,160 He'd been in the area two years. 1212 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:28,880 But this time... 1213 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,960 ..he was looking for Agnes as well. 1214 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,240 Agnes? 1215 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,160 He did to Agnes... 1216 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,680 ..what he'd done to Domenica. 1217 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,960 When did this start? When did he come back? 1218 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,640 Easter last year. 1219 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,360 Just a few months before Laura Gadd was killed? 1220 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,280 Agnes tried to take Geraint Williams. 1221 01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,720 You foiled her. Then she took Robin Pershore. 1222 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,360 You foiled her. 1223 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,800 Why did she start taking children again 1224 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,000 over a year after she'd killed Laura Gadd? Why? 1225 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,680 Had your father turned up again, Darren? 1226 01:21:19,480 --> 01:21:20,920 It was that same morning. 1227 01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:26,280 I came out into the garden, and there he was talking to Agnes. 1228 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:31,280 I sent her inside. I told him. I told him that it had got to stop, 1229 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,120 but he just give us a smack around the face 1230 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,240 and said he'd do what he liked. 1231 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:40,680 I told him I was going to the police. But I couldn't... 1232 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:41,720 you know? 1233 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,720 He's me dad. 1234 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,240 Where is he, Darren? Where's your father? 1235 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:51,360 He cannae help hisself, you know. Don't want to hear it, Darren. 1236 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,640 Where is he? 1237 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,520 He was at the Seamens' Hostel in Jarrow, 1238 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:57,800 but he'll be gone by now. 1239 01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,920 Under the name of Smith, I presume? 1240 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,160 This Mr Smith, he comes and goes, does he? 1241 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,880 Aye, couple of nights here, couple of nights there. 1242 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,640 How long this time, exactly? 1243 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,080 He said he just wanted a room for the one night. 1244 01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:16,680 That was five nights ago. 1245 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,240 Five...! And he's still here? You're sure? 1246 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,800 Why, he's not collected his deposit. 1247 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,040 Away, man. Look, out! 1248 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,760 Uh... Yeah, he's in there. 1249 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,480 I'm going to get you shut down. 1250 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,240 BACCHUS COUGHS 1251 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,240 Oh, look at that. 1252 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,720 Ronnie and Domenica, May 1946. 1253 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,560 Before he became Satan. 1254 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,600 They look happy. 1255 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,960 That room's going to need to be paid to be de-fumigated. 1256 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,080 And I know who'll get the blame for that - muggins. 1257 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,640 Come on, pet. 1258 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,840 You look very smart today. 1259 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,360 Aye. It's a big day. 1260 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,320 Your dad splashed out on a new motor? Bit young for him, isn't it? 1261 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,480 It's not his. What, your mam learned to drive at her age? 1262 01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:15,680 No. 1263 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,160 Oh. A friend. 1264 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,200 Say goodbye to Daddy, Leigh Ann. 1265 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,360 Goodbye, Daddy. 1266 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,040 Her QC and I spent two hours yesterday in chambers 1267 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,720 with the judge just talking through it all. 1268 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,920 And? He said it's not evidence. 1269 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:57,400 He's a nice old cove. 1270 01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,640 Takes his wig off when he's talking to her. 1271 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,040 Tries not to talk in Latin too much... 1272 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,120 There've been a lot of nice people on this case. 1273 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,960 But none of them have made a difference to this... 1274 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,400 ugly, ugly outcome. 1275 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,480 This is the day that makes our jobs look 1276 01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:18,400 pointless and stupid. 1277 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,280 Many things have been written in the press and elsewhere about 1278 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,920 the particular character of this dreadful case. 1279 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,720 There has been much speculation as to how a child 1280 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:43,320 of such tender years could have committed such appalling crimes. 1281 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,080 Cold-blooded murder of an innocent child 1282 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:50,680 has left many grasping for explanations. 1283 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,840 In the end, however, 1284 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:59,000 society and this court must content themselves with the knowledge 1285 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,560 that the accused has had a fair hearing 1286 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:06,400 and that the victims of her abominable crimes 1287 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,800 will receive justice. 1288 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:14,560 Accordingly, I have this to say to the court and to you, Agnes. 1289 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,600 Will you stand, please? 1290 01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:23,880 You are to be detained at Her Majesty's pleasure 1291 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,400 at a secure unit until you are of age... 1292 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:33,520 ..at which point you are to be given into the care of the prison service. 1293 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,600 It will be for others to decide when it may be safe 1294 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,760 to release you into the community once more. 1295 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:48,920 But in any event, you will serve at least 20 years. 1296 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,520 MURMURING 1297 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,920 I know you cannot see me. 1298 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,920 I'm here. 1299 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,280 But none of you can see me. 1300 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:11,960 Take her away, please. 1301 01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,360 Ready? 1302 01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,120 Yeah. 1303 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,280 I'm going to write you letters 1304 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,680 and send you drawings of whatever I see. OK? 1305 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,560 Yeah. I would like that, Agnes. 1306 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:43,960 Thank you. 1307 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,560 There IS a life to come for you. 1308 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,640 Try and remember that. 1309 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:53,960 That's a funny thing to say. 1310 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,040 Maybe. 1311 01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,240 Just try and remember it. 1312 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,400 KNOCK AT DOOR 1313 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,360 It's OK. Go on. 1314 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:38,400 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 1315 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,960 E-mail subtitling@bbc.co.uk 9999 00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00 www.tvsubtitles.net