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Hey, Siri.

2
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Send a message to Cheryl.

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Front reception.

4
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<i>What do you want to say?</i>

5
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Amos is already heading
there to pick him up, period.

6
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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady, period.

7
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<i>Your message to
Cheryl front reception</i>

8
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<i>says Amos is already heading
there to pick him up.</i>

9
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<i>Please forward any calls
I get to Brady.</i>

10
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<i>Ready to send it?</i>

11
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Yes.

12
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Okay, it's sent.

13
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Hey, Siri.

14
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How do you know if you're
doing the right thing?

15
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<i>I'm not sure I understand.</i>

16
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But what do you believe

17
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is the difference between
right and wrong?

18
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<i>Hmm.</i>

19
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<i>I don't have an answer for that.</i>

20
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<i>Would you like me to
search the web?</i>

21
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No.

22
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<i>Okay, is there
something else I can help with?</i>

23
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Set a reminder to pick up Kyle

24
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from therapy tomorrow at 4:45.

25
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<i>Okay, I'll remind you.</i>

26
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Hi, special agent Deena Helms.

27
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You've already met
Agent McCullough.

28
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You can call me Amos.

29
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- Uh, agents?
- Have a seat for us, Gareth.

30
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Do you mind answering a
couple questions?

31
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Great, this shouldn't take long.

32
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You're from Tampa, right?

33
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Don't overthink it.
It's a yes or no.

34
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Yeah.

35
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How old are you, Gareth?

36
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29.

37
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What do you do for work?

38
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I'm sorry, am I being detained?

39
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No, not at all.

40
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We're just asking
questions, background stuff.

41
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You work on movies, right?

42
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Special effects.

43
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Someone told me you worked

44
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on that new "Star Wars"
movie, is that right?

45
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Who told you that?

46
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Why don't you tell us
more about it?

47
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Tell us about your work.

48
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I used to do VFX for an
animation company.

49
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I've worked on at least
20 different films.

50
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Used to?

51
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I've been focusing more

52
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on software engineering
recently for years-

53
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Sounds boring compared
to light sabers.

54
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Why quit?

55
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I wasn't getting paid well.

56
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But money's not an
issue for you.

57
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Excuse me?

58
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What kind of effects did you do?

59
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Money's not an issue for me?

60
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-Let's talk about-
-If money wasn't an issue for me

61
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I wouldn't have applied
for your grant.

62
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I didn't mean to
suggest anything.

63
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Tell us what kind of
effects you did.

64
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My main focus was on
3D renderings.

65
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Of what?

66
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- Actors.
- What for?

67
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Well, for "Star Wars,"

68
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it was because the actor
I was tasked to digitize

69
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was unavailable to be
filmed in person.

70
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Why?

71
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Because they were dead.

72
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What'd they have you do?

73
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I reconstructed Alec
Guinness' face as a 3D model.

74
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I analyzed reference footage,

75
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then used a process called
D-Term to procedurally generate

76
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his bone and muscle structures,

77
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which one rigged helped
the animation feel

78
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more natural and human-like.

79
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D-Term, I've never heard
of that process before.

80
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Because I invented it.

81
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So you're basically bringing

82
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dead actors back to life?

83
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I just tried to make
the CG characters look as

84
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photorealistic as the technology
at the time would allow.

85
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You didn't find it creepy?

86
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I'm sorry, what?

87
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I said you don't find
that creepy?

88
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Well, we did our best to
cross the uncanny valley.

89
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But when the human
brain perceives

90
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that something is just slightly
off and it doesn't matter-

91
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No, I mean,
digitizing dead people.

92
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Christ, I mean, it's,

93
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it's almost like turning
someone's corpse

94
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into a marionette, you know?

95
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Making them do
whatever you want.

96
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What if the poor dead guy

97
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didn't want to be in
another fucking movie?

98
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It's so macabre.

99
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Am I crazy? Is it not macabre?

100
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I don't think the studio cares

101
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whether it's macabre or not.

102
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Look, I can never tell
the difference.

103
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I always can.
The faces look like Play-Doh.

104
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Well, we did our best.

105
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Soon we won't even need actors,
right?

106
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Everyone will just be digital.

107
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No, you still need them
for motion tracking.

108
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Human performances can't be
completely computer generated.

109
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How long will that be true?

110
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Some might say we've already
crossed that threshold.

111
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I wouldn't know.

112
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Where'd you go to school?

113
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- Brooks-DeBartolo High.
- And after?

114
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Nothing?

115
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What about Columbia?

116
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Didn't you go to Columbia?

117
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Wait, no.
You dropped out of Columbia

118
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after how many semesters?

119
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Three?

120
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Bjarne Stroustrup said

121
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you were the smartest
kid he ever met.

122
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I don't know who he is, but
Amos says it's a big deal.

123
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Then you moved to the
Netherlands,

124
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spent some time as an intern,

125
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applied and got into Cambridge.

126
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Very nice.

127
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Except that you dropped
out after two years.

128
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Flew back to the States,

129
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interned in Palo Alto,
then Montreal.

130
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Then went all the way
back to England,

131
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where you landed a job
in Sheffield.

132
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Second job in Manchester.

133
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Then got into Oxford where you
almost finished your masters

134
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before ditching the graduation

135
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and moving back here to Florida.

136
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If money was an issue,

137
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I'm glad you had plenty
of flyer miles.

138
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I didn't hear a question.

139
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What's your social life like?

140
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My, what does that have
anything to do-

141
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If you don't want to talk
about it, that's fine.

142
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We just wanted to know if
you have friends and stuff.

143
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- I have friends.
- A lot of them?

144
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- I have friends.
- Can you name one?

145
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- Can I what?
- Can you tell us the nam

146
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of just one of your friends?

147
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- Steve.
- Steve. Steve what?

148
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I don't know how this is
relevant to receiving the grant.

149
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Oh, we're just getting
to know you, Gareth.

150
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You got a girlfriend?

151
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Boyfriend?

152
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You, uh, talk to people online?

153
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I don't know what you
mean by that.

154
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I don't use social media.

155
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I mean more like chat rooms.

156
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You go on any chat rooms?

157
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No one uses chat rooms anymore.

158
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Sure they do.

159
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You chat with anyone online?

160
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- Sometimes.
- Sometimes.

161
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What kinds of people
do you talk to online?

162
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Gareth, obviously, this
isn't about a grant.

163
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We need to know
what your alias is.

164
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When you go online, what
name do you use?

165
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I don't have one.

166
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Yes, you do.

167
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And you need to tell
us what it is.

168
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Sorry, I can't help you.

169
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You know who we are?

170
00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:07,991
Well, this is the ICWL building.

171
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That's right.
You know what we do?

172
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Humanitarian work.

173
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That's what the
people upstairs do.

174
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You know what we do?

175
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We catch pedophiles.

176
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Amos here specializes in
tracking down online predators.

177
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He spends every waking hour

178
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scouring those chat
rooms you say no one uses

179
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and he finds thousands of
people soliciting children.

180
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Our operation is like a
tightly spun spider web

181
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connecting ICWL, the FBI, NSA,

182
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and let me tell you, his
team here is a vital thread.

183
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He reports everything he
gathers directly to me,

184
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and I see to it that the
necessary authorities

185
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take swift action.

186
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So are you in charge?

187
00:07:50,736 --> 00:07:53,263
This is my spiderweb.

188
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I'm the fucking spider, Gareth.

189
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Am I being detained?

190
00:08:02,833 --> 00:08:04,185
We already told you
that you're not detained.

191
00:08:04,208 --> 00:08:06,672
Good.

192
00:08:06,832 --> 00:08:09,711
But if you leave this
room, you will be arrested.

193
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For what?

194
00:08:18,352 --> 00:08:19,930
I told you what we do.

195
00:08:19,953 --> 00:08:21,583
Take a wild guess.

196
00:08:22,833 --> 00:08:24,345
I am not what you think I am.

197
00:08:24,368 --> 00:08:26,128
We'll see.

198
00:08:27,793 --> 00:08:30,234
Gareth, you just gotta
tell us your alias.

199
00:08:30,257 --> 00:08:32,849
What's your username?

200
00:08:36,017 --> 00:08:37,776
Sit down.

201
00:08:52,625 --> 00:08:53,723
- Why do you do this with them?
- Hmm?

202
00:08:53,746 --> 00:08:55,930
There's no way you do this
with every suspect you have.

203
00:08:55,953 --> 00:08:56,795
Invite them to your headquarters

204
00:08:56,818 --> 00:08:58,587
and then drag them down
into a basement.

205
00:08:58,610 --> 00:08:59,984
That's right.

206
00:09:00,050 --> 00:09:02,481
Why are you doing
this to me then?

207
00:09:03,538 --> 00:09:04,795
You tell us, Gare.

208
00:09:04,818 --> 00:09:07,217
What makes you so fuckin'
special?

209
00:09:08,594 --> 00:09:10,417
I don't know.

210
00:09:11,186 --> 00:09:12,795
What's your alias?

211
00:09:12,818 --> 00:09:16,529
- I don't have an alias.
- Yes you do.

212
00:09:17,074 --> 00:09:19,122
It starts with the word hard.

213
00:09:19,827 --> 00:09:21,873
Just finish the rest.

214
00:09:23,090 --> 00:09:24,444
Sit down, Mr. Federson.

215
00:09:24,467 --> 00:09:26,769
I only have a few
more questions.

216
00:09:38,131 --> 00:09:40,658
Do you recognize this girl?

217
00:09:48,019 --> 00:09:52,562
Do you know her?

218
00:09:54,452 --> 00:09:55,325
Yes.

219
00:09:55,348 --> 00:09:57,149
What's her name?

220
00:09:57,172 --> 00:09:58,492
Cherry.

221
00:09:58,515 --> 00:10:00,189
- Cherry what?
- She doesn't have a last name.

222
00:10:00,212 --> 00:10:01,756
Yes, she does, Gareth,
she's not Madonna.

223
00:10:01,779 --> 00:10:03,101
- She's a little girl.
- You don't understand.

224
00:10:03,124 --> 00:10:03,932
Yeah, well, I'd like to.

225
00:10:03,955 --> 00:10:05,181
So help me out, is she
your daughter?

226
00:10:05,204 --> 00:10:07,037
- No.
- Then whose daughter is she?

227
00:10:07,060 --> 00:10:08,061
- She, she doesn't have...
- How did you meet her?

228
00:10:08,084 --> 00:10:09,117
I didn't meet her.

229
00:10:09,140 --> 00:10:11,037
Then why do you have photos
of her on your computer?

230
00:10:11,060 --> 00:10:11,964
What the hell are you
talking about?

231
00:10:11,987 --> 00:10:13,725
Why do you fucking have photos

232
00:10:13,748 --> 00:10:14,909
of this girl on your fucking-

233
00:10:14,932 --> 00:10:15,741
Are you looking at
my hard drive?

234
00:10:15,764 --> 00:10:16,669
Because that's an
invasion of privacy.

235
00:10:16,692 --> 00:10:18,525
So you know what photos
I'm talking about?

236
00:10:18,548 --> 00:10:19,197
You don't have to do
it this way.

237
00:10:19,220 --> 00:10:20,573
I gave you permission to sit in.

238
00:10:20,596 --> 00:10:22,525
I did not give you
permission to speak.

239
00:10:22,548 --> 00:10:23,805
This is insane, you cannot keep-

240
00:10:23,828 --> 00:10:24,733
What else have you
done with her?

241
00:10:24,756 --> 00:10:26,173
- Nothing!
- Did you take the photos?

242
00:10:26,196 --> 00:10:27,070
It's, it's complicated.

243
00:10:27,093 --> 00:10:28,605
No, it's not! Yes or no?

244
00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:29,406
Did you take the photos?

245
00:10:29,429 --> 00:10:31,454
I didn't do anything wrong,
okay?

246
00:10:31,477 --> 00:10:34,365
Soliciting pornography of
minors is an egregious felony.

247
00:10:34,388 --> 00:10:37,214
Distributing that
pornography is tenfold worse.

248
00:10:37,237 --> 00:10:39,390
- I didn't do anything!
- Fucking prove it!

249
00:10:39,413 --> 00:10:42,611
What is your alias?

250
00:10:42,645 --> 00:10:44,061
Answer me!

251
00:10:44,084 --> 00:10:46,484
HardMachine11811.

252
00:11:03,381 --> 00:11:05,396
You're HardMachine.

253
00:11:06,485 --> 00:11:08,565
Thanks for confirming.

254
00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:12,511
If you knew, then why
do this to me?

255
00:11:12,534 --> 00:11:13,471
We weren't positive,

256
00:11:13,494 --> 00:11:15,134
and if you turned out
to not be HardMachine,

257
00:11:15,157 --> 00:11:17,268
you were obviously
just a predator.

258
00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:23,540
Do you keep track?

259
00:11:24,406 --> 00:11:27,391
I mean, do you know how many
bad people you've nailed?

260
00:11:27,414 --> 00:11:29,247
I didn't start
counting until 2023.

261
00:11:29,270 --> 00:11:31,519
196 convictions.

262
00:11:31,542 --> 00:11:32,479
There were at least 30

263
00:11:32,502 --> 00:11:34,335
before I started sending
everything to you guys.

264
00:11:34,358 --> 00:11:35,552
What'd you do before?

265
00:11:35,575 --> 00:11:36,383
I turned over

266
00:11:36,406 --> 00:11:37,791
all evidence directly
to the police.

267
00:11:37,814 --> 00:11:38,911
Why'd you stop?

268
00:11:38,934 --> 00:11:40,703
They were unreliable.

269
00:11:40,726 --> 00:11:42,175
- I doubt that.
- More than half of the predators

270
00:11:42,198 --> 00:11:43,616
I identified went
un-investigated.

271
00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:45,055
Yeah, well, you were
sketchy and faceless.

272
00:11:45,078 --> 00:11:47,359
They had every right to
be skeptical.

273
00:11:47,382 --> 00:11:48,479
It would've all been for nothing

274
00:11:48,502 --> 00:11:50,239
if they found out you were
using a little girl as bait.

275
00:11:50,262 --> 00:11:51,136
It's not that simple, okay?

276
00:11:51,159 --> 00:11:53,761
I can only do what I do
with anonymity.

277
00:11:53,784 --> 00:11:55,681
Here's my problem, Gareth,
and don't get me wrong.

278
00:11:55,704 --> 00:11:57,408
I think 200 terrible
people behind bars

279
00:11:57,431 --> 00:12:00,288
is a very good thing,
but not at her expense.

280
00:12:00,311 --> 00:12:02,337
Look, we think we can help you,

281
00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,872
but we need to help her too.

282
00:12:03,895 --> 00:12:06,976
Using your daughter to
entrap these people

283
00:12:06,999 --> 00:12:08,032
is a means that does not
justify the ends.

284
00:12:08,055 --> 00:12:09,057
She's not my daughter.

285
00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,081
And in spite of what you
may think you've achieved,

286
00:12:10,104 --> 00:12:11,840
I still have no reservation
with locking you up.

287
00:12:11,863 --> 00:12:13,312
You took the photos.

288
00:12:13,335 --> 00:12:14,432
I don't care why.

289
00:12:14,455 --> 00:12:16,192
You don't understand.

290
00:12:16,215 --> 00:12:17,248
Who is she?

291
00:12:17,271 --> 00:12:18,721
You're gonna ruin everything.

292
00:12:18,744 --> 00:12:22,358
She's a child, Gareth,
look at me.

293
00:12:23,159 --> 00:12:26,402
I don't give a damn what
fucked up anti-hero master plan

294
00:12:26,425 --> 00:12:27,969
of yours I might jeopardize.

295
00:12:27,992 --> 00:12:29,633
I won't let her be exploited.

296
00:12:29,656 --> 00:12:32,120
Not even for the sake of
locking up more perverts.

297
00:12:32,728 --> 00:12:35,616
I'm asking you politely
to let this one go.

298
00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:37,217
Are you fucking slow?

299
00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,082
Have you been listening at all?

300
00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:40,641
My anonymity is my most
important asset.

301
00:12:40,664 --> 00:12:42,305
Without that, I can't
do what I do.

302
00:12:42,328 --> 00:12:44,887
Well, that makes
everything easy then.

303
00:12:45,272 --> 00:12:47,361
You tell us where she is,
or we leak everything.

304
00:12:47,384 --> 00:12:48,929
- Your name, your aliases.
- Deena!

305
00:12:48,952 --> 00:12:50,913
Every single perp you
helped us catch.

306
00:12:50,936 --> 00:12:52,769
I'm sure they'll be very
pleased to meet you in jail.

307
00:12:52,792 --> 00:12:53,889
Stop!

308
00:12:53,912 --> 00:12:55,607
Okay.

309
00:12:58,073 --> 00:12:59,907
Look, if I tell you
about Cherry, okay,

310
00:12:59,930 --> 00:13:02,296
there's some things I'm
gonna need first.

311
00:13:02,488 --> 00:13:04,321
It doesn't really work like
that, Gareth, but go ahead.

312
00:13:04,344 --> 00:13:05,506
Give us your wishlist.

313
00:13:05,529 --> 00:13:07,297
I need a signed non-disclosure
agreement from both of you.

314
00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,482
- Not gonna happen.
- And then I need you to swear

315
00:13:08,505 --> 00:13:09,570
that the information I'm
about to relay

316
00:13:09,593 --> 00:13:11,010
won't leave this room.

317
00:13:11,033 --> 00:13:12,257
Look, if you tell us anything

318
00:13:12,281 --> 00:13:13,347
that could help us
locate Cherry,

319
00:13:13,370 --> 00:13:16,120
you know we can't keep
that promise.

320
00:13:16,889 --> 00:13:18,498
Okay, if I tell you anything

321
00:13:18,521 --> 00:13:21,027
that potentially helps
you find a missing child,

322
00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:22,019
okay, you can feel free
to share that.

323
00:13:22,042 --> 00:13:22,947
But I need you to swear

324
00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:26,584
that any other details
about myself or Cherry,

325
00:13:26,938 --> 00:13:29,208
have to stay between
the three of us.

326
00:13:30,361 --> 00:13:32,121
Is that it?

327
00:13:33,466 --> 00:13:35,417
And I need that camera
switched off.

328
00:13:36,507 --> 00:13:37,730
I don't know how to do that.

329
00:13:37,753 --> 00:13:38,915
Go to the head of
securities office,

330
00:13:38,938 --> 00:13:41,219
ask him to find this camera
in the system and disable it.

331
00:13:41,242 --> 00:13:43,448
I don't think he's
allowed to do that.

332
00:13:43,834 --> 00:13:45,880
I thought you were the
fucking spider?

333
00:13:49,402 --> 00:13:50,659
Give me a reason, Gareth.

334
00:13:50,682 --> 00:13:51,748
Why should I go through
all the trouble

335
00:13:51,771 --> 00:13:54,009
of getting that
camera turned off?

336
00:13:54,683 --> 00:13:57,530
Because if anybody finds out
what I'm about to tell you,

337
00:13:58,427 --> 00:14:01,178
a thousand more children
are gonna get abused.

338
00:14:04,090 --> 00:14:05,849
Give me a minute.

339
00:14:19,963 --> 00:14:26,010
So, uh, you and Cherry hunted
all those people together?

340
00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:35,077
This one time I spent six
weeks undercover trying

341
00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:38,330
to nail down a single
trafficker from the Philippines.

342
00:14:39,195 --> 00:14:40,261
Day after day,

343
00:14:40,284 --> 00:14:43,494
I spent hour after hour
following his trail online.

344
00:14:43,517 --> 00:14:44,581
And he must have been

345
00:14:44,604 --> 00:14:47,738
one of the hardest targets
I ever had to track down.

346
00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:54,661
Then one day I found him and
one of Cherry's live streams.

347
00:14:54,684 --> 00:14:56,484
I mean, she went by a
different name in the stream,

348
00:14:56,507 --> 00:14:58,811
but it was her.

349
00:14:59,324 --> 00:15:00,388
The trafficker,

350
00:15:00,412 --> 00:15:01,605
along with three of our
other targets

351
00:15:01,628 --> 00:15:03,557
were all in the room together.

352
00:15:03,580 --> 00:15:09,915
All of them just carelessly
sharing their information.

353
00:15:10,429 --> 00:15:15,238
I mean, and they were so open
'cause she was a real girl.

354
00:15:15,261 --> 00:15:16,933
I mean, she could physically

355
00:15:16,956 --> 00:15:19,964
and verbally respond to
them in real time.

356
00:15:22,428 --> 00:15:28,102
A couple days later,
HardMachine11811 sends ICWL

357
00:15:28,125 --> 00:15:29,702
another batch of names
and evidence,

358
00:15:29,725 --> 00:15:33,820
including the three targets
that were in the room.

359
00:15:34,590 --> 00:15:38,151
You know, I almost thought
the girl was HardMachine

360
00:15:38,174 --> 00:15:39,845
and that this nine year old

361
00:15:39,868 --> 00:15:43,933
just happened to be some
badass online vigilante.

362
00:15:45,468 --> 00:15:47,484
What changed your mind?

363
00:15:49,886 --> 00:15:52,316
11811.

364
00:15:52,606 --> 00:15:56,103
January 18th, 2011.

365
00:15:56,126 --> 00:16:00,796
Most of my team thought it
was, uh, some arbitrary number,

366
00:16:01,183 --> 00:16:05,565
but I remember what happened
on that day in Clearwater.

367
00:16:07,517 --> 00:16:10,301
You were one of the
Clearwater kids, weren't you?

368
00:16:10,846 --> 00:16:13,757
You know, my father was
a part of that raid.

369
00:16:16,382 --> 00:16:17,382
It's off, see?

370
00:16:17,405 --> 00:16:18,728
No red light.

371
00:16:18,751 --> 00:16:19,559
Non-disclosure agreements?

372
00:16:19,583 --> 00:16:20,615
We're not playing this game,
Gareth.

373
00:16:20,638 --> 00:16:23,518
You're just gonna have to
suck it up and trust us.

374
00:16:27,071 --> 00:16:29,629
You can trust us.

375
00:16:31,550 --> 00:16:33,000
I've been told I have
trust issues.

376
00:16:33,023 --> 00:16:35,774
Well, there's
only one way to fix that.

377
00:16:43,326 --> 00:16:45,991
The reason you can't
find Cherry,

378
00:16:46,014 --> 00:16:49,000
the reason why she doesn't
have a last name or parents,

379
00:16:49,023 --> 00:16:54,558
or a social security number
is because she's not real.

380
00:16:55,615 --> 00:16:57,726
She's not a real human being.

381
00:17:00,736 --> 00:17:02,655
Tell us what happened.

382
00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:07,498
While I was studying abroad,

383
00:17:07,521 --> 00:17:10,121
I interned at a small
Dutch animation studio

384
00:17:10,144 --> 00:17:11,434
a few years before
they collaborated

385
00:17:11,457 --> 00:17:13,865
with a local nonprofit on
a similar idea.

386
00:17:13,888 --> 00:17:15,359
Which was?

387
00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:17,321
The idea was to build a 3D model

388
00:17:17,344 --> 00:17:19,114
of an 11 year old Filipino girl

389
00:17:19,137 --> 00:17:21,930
and use her covertly to
identify online predators,

390
00:17:21,953 --> 00:17:24,778
A technological solution
to a technological problem.

391
00:17:24,801 --> 00:17:26,570
But the project was suspended
after only a few months.

392
00:17:26,593 --> 00:17:27,433
Yeah, I remember.

393
00:17:27,456 --> 00:17:29,385
I remember hearing
about that program.

394
00:17:29,408 --> 00:17:31,327
Is that what inspired you?

395
00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:32,617
As I got better at crafting
photorealistic faces,

396
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,185
I decided to work on one myself.

397
00:17:34,209 --> 00:17:35,913
Why?

398
00:17:35,936 --> 00:17:38,218
It was too effective
of an idea to let die.

399
00:17:38,241 --> 00:17:40,585
Hundreds of thousands
of children are at risk.

400
00:17:40,608 --> 00:17:41,577
I had to make her.

401
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,826
Who is she modeled after?

402
00:17:42,849 --> 00:17:43,883
No one, I built
her from scratch.

403
00:17:43,906 --> 00:17:44,970
Scratch?

404
00:17:44,993 --> 00:17:47,401
I started with a skull,
designed her bone structure,

405
00:17:47,424 --> 00:17:48,906
worked upwards through
muscles and tissue,

406
00:17:48,929 --> 00:17:50,730
used the D-Term program to
fill in the rest procedurally.

407
00:17:50,753 --> 00:17:54,410
Eventually she came to
look like that.

408
00:17:54,433 --> 00:17:56,969
A completely unique,
completely digital model.

409
00:17:56,992 --> 00:17:58,089
I rigged her face and body

410
00:17:58,112 --> 00:17:59,049
the way you would for
any CG character.

411
00:17:59,072 --> 00:18:01,121
Then for three years,

412
00:18:01,249 --> 00:18:03,264
I used motion tracking to
puppeteer her in real time.

413
00:18:03,490 --> 00:18:04,011
You gotta understand that the
video chats on those sites

414
00:18:04,034 --> 00:18:04,971
have such low resolution

415
00:18:04,994 --> 00:18:07,626
that even in her earliest
stage of this, she,

416
00:18:07,649 --> 00:18:11,360
we appeared
completely authentic.

417
00:18:11,650 --> 00:18:13,569
And what about voice?

418
00:18:13,602 --> 00:18:14,763
For most of her first
year, she had to be mute.

419
00:18:14,786 --> 00:18:16,843
But eventually I found a decent
voice filter with no lag.

420
00:18:16,866 --> 00:18:18,283
And after a few tweaks
and adjustments,

421
00:18:18,306 --> 00:18:20,427
it's been the same
voice ever since.

422
00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:22,284
I, I, I thought initially,

423
00:18:22,307 --> 00:18:24,363
my performance was going
to be too unnatural.

424
00:18:24,386 --> 00:18:29,004
But with just one week of
occasional video chat sessions,

425
00:18:29,027 --> 00:18:30,891
I secured six different names,

426
00:18:30,914 --> 00:18:33,601
mailing addresses,
proofs of solicitations.

427
00:18:33,955 --> 00:18:34,892
Cherry worked.

428
00:18:34,915 --> 00:18:36,684
So the photos on your computer?

429
00:18:36,707 --> 00:18:38,572
- Completely fake.
- It was the only way

430
00:18:38,595 --> 00:18:39,627
some of them disclosed
personal information.

431
00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:42,380
But it was all zeros and
ones, all digital, right?

432
00:18:42,403 --> 00:18:44,300
- There's no real child.
- No real child.

433
00:18:44,323 --> 00:18:46,156
Just a highly detailed
computer model.

434
00:18:46,179 --> 00:18:48,140
And let me be clear
about something,

435
00:18:48,163 --> 00:18:48,907
I derive no pleasure
from doing any of this.

436
00:18:48,930 --> 00:18:50,827
I've been asexual my
entire life.

437
00:18:50,850 --> 00:18:52,619
I, I don't even get a
sense of satisfaction

438
00:18:52,642 --> 00:18:54,690
from seeing these
people locked up.

439
00:18:55,075 --> 00:18:58,465
I just think kids deserve a
life free of exploitation.

440
00:18:59,107 --> 00:19:02,882
Incredible, all this time.

441
00:19:02,916 --> 00:19:04,299
I'm not gonna lie, Gareth.

442
00:19:04,322 --> 00:19:06,563
Cherry's done us a lot of good.

443
00:19:07,107 --> 00:19:08,301
You know, I still remember
what you said to me

444
00:19:08,324 --> 00:19:10,339
the first time we corresponded.

445
00:19:10,436 --> 00:19:12,811
-You said-
-We corresponded?

446
00:19:12,834 --> 00:19:14,157
Yeah, man.

447
00:19:14,180 --> 00:19:15,970
I'm Gord51.

448
00:19:16,131 --> 00:19:18,722
I'm the one here you've been
sending all your intel to.

449
00:19:19,203 --> 00:19:20,877
You're Gord?

450
00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:22,851
Yeah.

451
00:19:24,003 --> 00:19:25,667
You lied to me.

452
00:19:25,860 --> 00:19:27,725
You said I could stay anonymous.

453
00:19:27,748 --> 00:19:30,243
You said I would be safe.

454
00:19:31,011 --> 00:19:32,994
Now you've ruined everything.

455
00:19:33,156 --> 00:19:34,445
I, I didn't, I didn't
have a choice.

456
00:19:34,468 --> 00:19:35,789
You don't have to worry
about anything, Gareth.

457
00:19:35,812 --> 00:19:36,844
If Cherry isn't real,

458
00:19:36,867 --> 00:19:39,044
then you're not in any
trouble with us.

459
00:19:39,268 --> 00:19:41,966
In fact, we've discussed ideas
similar to this in the past,

460
00:19:41,989 --> 00:19:42,926
motion tracking and such.

461
00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:45,613
But we'd need a convincing
model like Cherry.

462
00:19:45,636 --> 00:19:46,412
Cherry's more than a model.

463
00:19:46,435 --> 00:19:47,822
You want to help children?
So do we.

464
00:19:47,845 --> 00:19:48,910
She's not for sale.

465
00:19:48,933 --> 00:19:50,638
Well, then just make us a
new model based off of her.

466
00:19:50,661 --> 00:19:51,758
I can't.

467
00:19:51,781 --> 00:19:52,718
Sure you can.

468
00:19:52,741 --> 00:19:54,500
I won't.

469
00:19:56,644 --> 00:19:58,532
What are you not telling us?

470
00:20:00,165 --> 00:20:01,262
It's out on the table now.

471
00:20:01,285 --> 00:20:04,196
Might as well spill whatever
it is you haven't already.

472
00:20:08,677 --> 00:20:11,427
You know what
doesn't make sense?

473
00:20:11,877 --> 00:20:14,926
You said that you puppeteered
her for only three years,

474
00:20:14,949 --> 00:20:18,148
but we've been getting
info from you ever since.

475
00:20:18,725 --> 00:20:20,334
In fact, I'm pretty
sure it was around then

476
00:20:20,357 --> 00:20:24,229
that we started seeing an
impressive increase of names.

477
00:20:24,454 --> 00:20:27,172
So many in fact that we
started thinking

478
00:20:27,685 --> 00:20:29,646
there's no way this is all
coming from one source.

479
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:31,086
I have friends that do
mo-cap for me.

480
00:20:31,109 --> 00:20:34,501
Oh, friends, like Steve?

481
00:20:34,758 --> 00:20:37,348
I thought anonymity was
your greatest asset.

482
00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:41,477
Cut the bullshit, Gareth.

483
00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:44,390
What happened to Cherry
after three years?

484
00:20:50,022 --> 00:20:53,808
Okay, you said that she
was more than a model.

485
00:20:53,831 --> 00:20:57,136
So what is she some type
of conversational agent?

486
00:20:57,159 --> 00:20:59,568
Like a, like a chat bot?

487
00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:03,749
Chat bot.

488
00:21:07,334 --> 00:21:09,520
You know what happened
after three years?

489
00:21:09,543 --> 00:21:11,408
My chosen mother died.

490
00:21:11,431 --> 00:21:12,304
What she left behind was
enough to quit my job

491
00:21:12,327 --> 00:21:15,024
and pursue more
resources and software.

492
00:21:15,047 --> 00:21:15,920
I'd already made a program

493
00:21:15,943 --> 00:21:16,976
that could procedurally
generate faces,

494
00:21:16,999 --> 00:21:19,120
but what I wanted for
Cherry was far more complex.

495
00:21:19,143 --> 00:21:21,008
So I got in touch with
some researchers

496
00:21:21,031 --> 00:21:22,032
from Madrid who'd already built

497
00:21:22,055 --> 00:21:24,303
a predator hunting dialogue
system of their own.

498
00:21:24,326 --> 00:21:26,512
It was trained to approach
conversations as a game.

499
00:21:26,535 --> 00:21:28,175
Each sentence like a
strategic volley,

500
00:21:28,198 --> 00:21:29,489
which is innovative but
ultimately flawed.

501
00:21:29,512 --> 00:21:31,120
If you want your machine
to master NLP,

502
00:21:31,143 --> 00:21:31,887
you have to break
down game theory

503
00:21:31,910 --> 00:21:33,488
because language
isn't tic-tac-toe.

504
00:21:33,511 --> 00:21:34,544
It's poetry.

505
00:21:34,567 --> 00:21:35,985
So yes, I got things started

506
00:21:36,008 --> 00:21:37,201
with a preexisting
modified chat bot

507
00:21:37,224 --> 00:21:38,257
that I borrowed
without permission

508
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,199
from the University of Deusto.

509
00:21:44,648 --> 00:21:47,239
But that's not what
Cherry is now.

510
00:21:49,672 --> 00:21:51,271
What is she, Gareth?

511
00:21:53,608 --> 00:21:54,737
She's one of the most complex

512
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,034
and independently evolving
AIs that's ever been created.

513
00:21:58,057 --> 00:21:58,994
Artificial intelligence?

514
00:21:59,017 --> 00:22:00,817
She's already surpassed
the narrow intelligence

515
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,834
of IBM's smartest programs.

516
00:22:02,857 --> 00:22:05,906
She can have full conversations,
up to 10 of them at a time,

517
00:22:05,929 --> 00:22:07,857
all while
simultaneously strategizing

518
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,802
the most efficient schedule
to visit various chat rooms.

519
00:22:10,825 --> 00:22:13,297
She's perpetually studying
YouTube videos of small children

520
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,738
in order to adopt a
growing library

521
00:22:14,761 --> 00:22:16,711
of mannerisms and movements

522
00:22:16,777 --> 00:22:18,993
which help keep her artificial
personality dynamic.

523
00:22:19,016 --> 00:22:20,338
Her fastest response time
is 0.4 seconds.

524
00:22:20,361 --> 00:22:21,650
And as of now, she has never,

525
00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:23,218
never been accused
of being fake,

526
00:22:23,241 --> 00:22:24,882
which means she shattered
the Turing test.

527
00:22:24,905 --> 00:22:26,290
All I do is
occasionally update her

528
00:22:26,313 --> 00:22:27,633
and periodically check
her data cleaning.

529
00:22:27,656 --> 00:22:29,224
Otherwise,

530
00:22:30,281 --> 00:22:32,617
she's completely on autopilot.

531
00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:38,729
Holy fucking shit.

532
00:22:42,121 --> 00:22:43,186
- How?
- Six years she's been active.

533
00:22:43,209 --> 00:22:45,106
Every minute she's online,
she's learning something.

534
00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:47,410
The more she learns, the
more advanced she becomes.

535
00:22:47,433 --> 00:22:48,530
This means increased
data generation,

536
00:22:48,553 --> 00:22:49,746
improved decision making,

537
00:22:49,769 --> 00:22:50,963
faster pattern and
trend detection

538
00:22:50,986 --> 00:22:52,051
and complex problem solving.

539
00:22:52,074 --> 00:22:55,123
NLP, IR, machine learning
to an unprecedented degree.

540
00:22:55,146 --> 00:22:56,146
She can teach herself anything

541
00:22:56,169 --> 00:22:57,875
she thinks will help
efficiency and authenticity.

542
00:22:57,898 --> 00:23:00,329
She can currently speak
four languages

543
00:23:00,586 --> 00:23:01,395
and by the end of this month,
she'll have mastered a fifth.

544
00:23:01,418 --> 00:23:02,739
There's no way you
could have pulled

545
00:23:02,762 --> 00:23:04,681
all this off on your own.

546
00:23:07,530 --> 00:23:09,289
You're right.

547
00:23:10,378 --> 00:23:11,443
Would you believe me
if I told you

548
00:23:11,466 --> 00:23:15,241
it was somewhat of an accident?

549
00:23:16,267 --> 00:23:18,794
Look, if, if I'm being honest,

550
00:23:19,178 --> 00:23:21,641
I'm not entirely sure
how I did it

551
00:23:22,090 --> 00:23:23,412
with the first year of coding

552
00:23:23,435 --> 00:23:25,481
and the second year of
data training,

553
00:23:25,547 --> 00:23:28,243
I just pushed a wheel
down a hill.

554
00:23:28,266 --> 00:23:30,698
It was like gravity
did the rest.

555
00:23:30,730 --> 00:23:35,466
Her evolution became
perpetual, exponentially so.

556
00:23:36,811 --> 00:23:40,084
The more time she was
online, the faster she grew.

557
00:23:40,107 --> 00:23:41,588
You haven't shared
this with anyone?

558
00:23:41,611 --> 00:23:45,546
Like I said, my anonymity
is everything.

559
00:23:47,115 --> 00:23:48,916
What coding language?

560
00:23:48,939 --> 00:23:50,388
Standard C  .

561
00:23:50,411 --> 00:23:52,139
Does Brady know it?

562
00:23:54,347 --> 00:23:56,554
We'll sign
non-disclosures for you,

563
00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:58,196
but I want to see the
source code first.

564
00:23:58,219 --> 00:23:59,924
Out of the question.
You just want to steal her.

565
00:23:59,947 --> 00:24:01,940
No, I want to see how we
can make our own.

566
00:24:01,963 --> 00:24:02,900
You'll screw it up.

567
00:24:02,923 --> 00:24:04,597
Look, these, these
predators and traffickers,

568
00:24:04,620 --> 00:24:05,717
they all talk to each other,
okay?

569
00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:07,893
So much of Cherry's process
is just bypassing the VPNs

570
00:24:07,916 --> 00:24:09,941
and making sure she doesn't
double up in the same circles.

571
00:24:09,964 --> 00:24:11,413
The chat rooms begin to suspect

572
00:24:11,436 --> 00:24:12,725
that this technology is
even possible,

573
00:24:12,748 --> 00:24:13,781
they'll find a way to
circumvent that.

574
00:24:13,804 --> 00:24:15,220
We have to eliminate any
margin of error.

575
00:24:15,243 --> 00:24:16,501
- Cherry agrees with me.
- Cherry agrees?

576
00:24:16,524 --> 00:24:17,557
What the fuck does that-

577
00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:19,285
What I mean by that is that
the data she's collected

578
00:24:19,308 --> 00:24:20,245
validates that perspective.

579
00:24:20,268 --> 00:24:21,525
What, do you have little
chats with her over tea?

580
00:24:21,548 --> 00:24:23,445
You can converse
with the program

581
00:24:23,468 --> 00:24:25,077
the same way you can
talk to Alexa or Siri.

582
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:26,165
It's built to be responsive.

583
00:24:26,188 --> 00:24:27,925
You can, you can even play
chess with it if you want.

584
00:24:27,948 --> 00:24:28,725
You play chess with it?

585
00:24:28,748 --> 00:24:30,229
- That's not what I said.
- Okay fine.

586
00:24:30,252 --> 00:24:32,438
If you won't show us
the source code,

587
00:24:32,461 --> 00:24:34,347
then I want to meet Cherry.

588
00:24:36,653 --> 00:24:38,412
Right now?

589
00:24:38,477 --> 00:24:39,851
Right now.

590
00:24:42,765 --> 00:24:44,940
And you'll both sign
non-disclosures?

591
00:24:45,260 --> 00:24:47,020
Yes.

592
00:24:50,989 --> 00:24:52,086
Can I use that?

593
00:24:52,109 --> 00:24:53,868
Sure.

594
00:25:11,949 --> 00:25:14,231
Can we at least agree that
he's off the chopping block?

595
00:25:14,254 --> 00:25:15,895
It worked, didn't it?

596
00:25:15,918 --> 00:25:18,029
We have one job, Amos,

597
00:25:18,126 --> 00:25:19,991
like the kids said, there's
a technological problem.

598
00:25:20,014 --> 00:25:21,622
He found the
technological solution,

599
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,503
but problems evolve, so
must solutions.

600
00:25:24,526 --> 00:25:27,149
I'm keeping an open mind here.

601
00:25:27,182 --> 00:25:28,663
Is that a good look for me?

602
00:25:28,686 --> 00:25:30,478
No.

603
00:25:33,614 --> 00:25:36,119
So you keep it all on
that laptop?

604
00:25:36,142 --> 00:25:37,431
No, the Cherry program
stays on a server I keep

605
00:25:37,454 --> 00:25:39,031
at in an undisclosed location.

606
00:25:39,054 --> 00:25:40,056
Where is that?

607
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:41,687
It's an undisclosed location.

608
00:25:41,710 --> 00:25:42,583
Is it your place?

609
00:25:42,606 --> 00:25:44,055
Undisclosed location.

610
00:25:44,078 --> 00:25:44,759
It's your place, isn't it?

611
00:25:44,782 --> 00:25:46,071
I can access it from any device

612
00:25:46,094 --> 00:25:48,589
as long as I have the
encryption key.

613
00:25:49,807 --> 00:25:51,223
This will trigger a simple
qubit algorithm

614
00:25:51,246 --> 00:25:53,176
that would otherwise be
impossible to bypass.

615
00:25:53,199 --> 00:25:55,063
I find that outdated hardware
is always more discreet

616
00:25:55,086 --> 00:25:57,358
and the more discreet,
obviously the better.

617
00:26:00,271 --> 00:26:02,168
So she has two primary
display modes, right?

618
00:26:02,191 --> 00:26:03,128
Development and performance.

619
00:26:03,151 --> 00:26:04,248
Performance being the default

620
00:26:04,271 --> 00:26:05,880
that the targets see
during the chats.

621
00:26:05,903 --> 00:26:09,646
To them, she looks like this.

622
00:26:14,895 --> 00:26:16,537
Hey, what's up?

623
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,023
It's one of over 40
greetings she has.

624
00:26:21,104 --> 00:26:22,264
I don't think I've met you yet.

625
00:26:22,287 --> 00:26:23,480
I'm Cherry.

626
00:26:23,503 --> 00:26:24,440
Hello, Cherry.

627
00:26:24,463 --> 00:26:26,169
My name is Tom.

628
00:26:26,192 --> 00:26:28,120
Tom, like Tom and Jerry.

629
00:26:28,143 --> 00:26:29,624
Cool, nice to meet you, Tom.

630
00:26:29,647 --> 00:26:30,969
Typically, the routes
of conversations

631
00:26:30,992 --> 00:26:31,929
with predators are consistent,

632
00:26:31,952 --> 00:26:33,720
so Cherry usually has
no problem responding

633
00:26:33,743 --> 00:26:35,929
to the most frequently made
questions or statements.

634
00:26:35,952 --> 00:26:36,856
How are you?

635
00:26:36,879 --> 00:26:38,010
I'm good.

636
00:26:38,033 --> 00:26:39,898
I just finished reading this
book about a haunted house,

637
00:26:39,921 --> 00:26:42,201
which was supposed to
be really scary,

638
00:26:42,224 --> 00:26:44,537
but I didn't think it's
very scary at all.

639
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,575
Where are your parents?

640
00:26:46,769 --> 00:26:49,305
Um my mom's at work and my
sister's just, like, downstairs.

641
00:26:49,328 --> 00:26:51,033
They almost never come up here.

642
00:26:51,056 --> 00:26:52,025
And you're telling me

643
00:26:52,048 --> 00:26:54,105
that all of this is being
rendered in real time?

644
00:26:54,128 --> 00:26:55,545
No, but that's just a
matter of years.

645
00:26:55,568 --> 00:26:56,889
Most of these responses
are pre-rendered.

646
00:26:56,912 --> 00:26:58,041
It's the in between segments

647
00:26:58,064 --> 00:26:59,067
that are processed in real time,

648
00:26:59,090 --> 00:27:00,217
the connective tissue,
so to speak,

649
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,681
between her replies and one
of her many idle animations.

650
00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:04,688
But, watch this.

651
00:27:05,393 --> 00:27:07,889
Have you ever gone fishing?

652
00:27:08,433 --> 00:27:10,192
Um...

653
00:27:13,265 --> 00:27:15,001
So if someone throws
a curve ball like that

654
00:27:15,024 --> 00:27:16,826
and the program has no
automated response,

655
00:27:16,849 --> 00:27:18,522
Cherry sends the
message to my phone

656
00:27:18,545 --> 00:27:20,090
and I can quickly text
back a response

657
00:27:20,113 --> 00:27:22,928
while the video feed
simulates a bad connection.

658
00:27:24,978 --> 00:27:26,202
Can, can you hear me?

659
00:27:26,225 --> 00:27:27,482
Yes.

660
00:27:27,505 --> 00:27:29,402
Oh, sorry.

661
00:27:29,425 --> 00:27:31,355
My wifi isn't great here.

662
00:27:31,378 --> 00:27:33,242
I've only gone fishing
once with my sister

663
00:27:33,265 --> 00:27:36,122
and I didn't catch anything,
but she caught a rainbow trout.

664
00:27:36,145 --> 00:27:38,362
That was rendered in real time.

665
00:27:38,385 --> 00:27:40,122
What happens if
things get really tricky?

666
00:27:40,145 --> 00:27:41,211
A simple fail safe
cuts the feed.

667
00:27:41,234 --> 00:27:43,002
So far it's rarely happened.

668
00:27:43,025 --> 00:27:46,363
Admin code 97815-5742-7663.

669
00:27:46,386 --> 00:27:47,889
Switch to dev mode.

670
00:27:52,370 --> 00:27:53,788
Hello, Cherry.

671
00:27:53,811 --> 00:27:55,419
Hello, Gareth.

672
00:27:55,442 --> 00:27:57,467
Relay the stats for
the past week.

673
00:27:57,490 --> 00:27:59,355
There have been four
confirmed solicitations

674
00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:02,299
submitted to ICWL in the
past seven days.

675
00:28:02,322 --> 00:28:05,212
12 additional suspects have
stated interest in solicitation

676
00:28:05,235 --> 00:28:06,843
and are currently pending.

677
00:28:06,866 --> 00:28:08,891
There are a total of 39
new suspects this week

678
00:28:08,914 --> 00:28:10,620
that I'm actively investigating.

679
00:28:10,643 --> 00:28:12,571
Any considerable
data deviations?

680
00:28:12,594 --> 00:28:14,331
There has been a 7% increase

681
00:28:14,354 --> 00:28:16,636
in suspects originating
in the United States.

682
00:28:16,659 --> 00:28:19,953
I have not yet found any
correlation to preexisting data.

683
00:28:20,403 --> 00:28:22,514
Anything you'd like to ask her?

684
00:28:30,835 --> 00:28:34,067
Cherry, what is your objective?

685
00:28:34,611 --> 00:28:37,340
My principal directive
is to acquire information

686
00:28:37,363 --> 00:28:40,252
and digital evidence of
online child solicitation.

687
00:28:40,275 --> 00:28:41,372
Once obtained,

688
00:28:41,395 --> 00:28:44,412
I'm to submit my findings to
the necessary authorities.

689
00:28:44,435 --> 00:28:46,237
My secondary priority
is to determine

690
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:48,414
and develop the most
effective strategies

691
00:28:48,437 --> 00:28:51,133
and resources to increase
the net rate of success.

692
00:28:51,156 --> 00:28:52,861
Where do you submit
your evidence?

693
00:28:52,884 --> 00:28:54,621
All evidence is
currently submitted

694
00:28:54,644 --> 00:28:55,612
to the offices of

695
00:28:55,635 --> 00:28:58,077
the International Committee
of World Largesse,

696
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,030
which is based out of
Jacksonville, Florida.

697
00:29:00,053 --> 00:29:02,653
Correspondence is made
with user Gord51,

698
00:29:02,676 --> 00:29:04,797
typically around 2:00
PM Eastern Standard Time

699
00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:07,475
for the highest rate
of immediate response.

700
00:29:07,733 --> 00:29:09,277
This beats the hell outta Siri.

701
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:10,269
God, she looks so real.

702
00:29:10,292 --> 00:29:11,229
After enough updates,

703
00:29:11,252 --> 00:29:12,893
she'll be able to render
full-time photorealism

704
00:29:12,916 --> 00:29:15,133
that's practically
indistinguishable from reality.

705
00:29:15,156 --> 00:29:18,174
Okay, all I heard right then was
word real a thousand times.

706
00:29:18,197 --> 00:29:21,108
Right, but obviously she's not.

707
00:29:22,516 --> 00:29:23,774
So you're telling me this girl,

708
00:29:23,797 --> 00:29:25,855
this girl right here
is not real.

709
00:29:25,878 --> 00:29:28,189
No, Amos, she's completely CG.

710
00:29:28,212 --> 00:29:29,534
It's very subtle, but I
can still tell.

711
00:29:29,557 --> 00:29:30,206
- You can?
- Okay, well, obviously,

712
00:29:30,229 --> 00:29:31,358
she can always use improvements,

713
00:29:31,381 --> 00:29:33,471
but you have to understand
this is her in high resolution

714
00:29:33,494 --> 00:29:34,398
after the digital
compression of the web,

715
00:29:34,421 --> 00:29:35,966
those subtleties are
impossible to recognize.

716
00:29:35,989 --> 00:29:37,908
Right, I get it.

717
00:29:42,869 --> 00:29:44,916
I just can't tell
the difference.

718
00:29:47,637 --> 00:29:49,556
You all right, Amos?

719
00:29:49,974 --> 00:29:51,422
I'm sorry.

720
00:29:51,445 --> 00:29:55,476
This is just bizarre.

721
00:29:55,766 --> 00:29:58,357
Why'd you have her visible
during this interface?

722
00:29:59,318 --> 00:30:01,333
Cherry, why don't you
answer that?

723
00:30:01,399 --> 00:30:04,383
My physical form isn't necessary
when in developer mode.

724
00:30:04,406 --> 00:30:06,176
However, it's
helpful to register

725
00:30:06,199 --> 00:30:08,735
the facial expressions
during conversations

726
00:30:08,758 --> 00:30:10,590
and determine which of
Cherry's expressions

727
00:30:10,613 --> 00:30:12,671
yield various types of feedback.

728
00:30:12,694 --> 00:30:16,117
In simpler terms, I can
practice appearing more human.

729
00:30:16,342 --> 00:30:19,007
Cherry, are there any resources

730
00:30:19,030 --> 00:30:20,544
that you currently don't
have access to

731
00:30:20,567 --> 00:30:22,528
that might help you in any way?

732
00:30:22,551 --> 00:30:24,095
I could give
you a list if you like.

733
00:30:24,118 --> 00:30:25,055
I know what you're trying to do.

734
00:30:25,078 --> 00:30:26,272
We don't need help, okay?

735
00:30:26,295 --> 00:30:27,839
Money would always be
nice, but ultimately,

736
00:30:27,862 --> 00:30:30,966
the only thing that's going
to improve Cherry is time.

737
00:30:31,159 --> 00:30:34,742
Cherry, tell us something
that's on your list.

738
00:30:34,967 --> 00:30:36,897
It would be
tactically advantageous

739
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,817
to acquire backup servers.

740
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,184
The privacy and security
of the Cherry program

741
00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:43,126
is relatively low.

742
00:30:43,223 --> 00:30:45,473
An upgrade to hardware
such as backup rated drives

743
00:30:45,496 --> 00:30:48,288
for securely protected servers
would ensure the software

744
00:30:48,311 --> 00:30:51,201
doesn't become compromised
or lost entirely.

745
00:30:51,224 --> 00:30:53,824
Starting back from zero with
cost years of development,

746
00:30:53,847 --> 00:30:56,129
equitably privacy is a priority.

747
00:30:56,152 --> 00:30:59,009
Server space could never be
rented from a third party.

748
00:30:59,032 --> 00:31:01,632
Anonymity is the Cherry
program's greatest asset.

749
00:31:01,655 --> 00:31:02,849
Well, that apple
didn't fall far.

750
00:31:02,872 --> 00:31:04,545
I can buy my own servers.

751
00:31:04,568 --> 00:31:05,602
With the grant money that
doesn't exist?

752
00:31:05,625 --> 00:31:06,400
I'll find a way.

753
00:31:06,423 --> 00:31:08,032
You have found a way
here with us.

754
00:31:08,055 --> 00:31:08,673
It's too risky.

755
00:31:08,696 --> 00:31:09,473
Why?

756
00:31:09,496 --> 00:31:10,272
Once an organization
gets involved,

757
00:31:10,295 --> 00:31:12,225
entrapment becomes a
bigger issue.

758
00:31:12,248 --> 00:31:13,056
We follow the rules,
stay discreet,

759
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:14,305
did I mention we have
a legal team.

760
00:31:14,328 --> 00:31:16,032
What if there's data leakage?
What if you use correlations in

761
00:31:16,055 --> 00:31:16,832
the data to push
your own agenda?

762
00:31:16,855 --> 00:31:17,792
Agenda?

763
00:31:17,815 --> 00:31:19,234
What if one of your
employees is a pervert?

764
00:31:19,257 --> 00:31:20,065
Oh, for fuck's sake.

765
00:31:20,088 --> 00:31:21,536
It's happened at other
organizations.

766
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:22,625
We're very careful here.

767
00:31:22,648 --> 00:31:23,842
Yeah, but wow would you know?

768
00:31:23,865 --> 00:31:25,633
- I'd fucking know.
- That's impossible to know.

769
00:31:25,656 --> 00:31:27,297
- I would know.
- The risk is too high.

770
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,674
Don't talk to me about risk.

771
00:31:28,697 --> 00:31:29,794
The only risk you're
facing in this building

772
00:31:29,817 --> 00:31:30,882
is getting a broken nose.

773
00:31:30,905 --> 00:31:33,506
It doesn't sound like a very
professional environment.

774
00:31:33,529 --> 00:31:34,626
We get shit done here.

775
00:31:34,649 --> 00:31:38,743
Okay, I have a
question for Cherry.

776
00:31:40,856 --> 00:31:42,615
Cherry,

777
00:31:44,856 --> 00:31:47,832
how do you feel about
what you do?

778
00:31:48,025 --> 00:31:50,627
I'm afraid I don't know how
to answer your question.

779
00:31:50,650 --> 00:31:51,683
Yeah, an AI doesn't
work like that.

780
00:31:51,706 --> 00:31:53,762
An AI doesn't have what you
perceive to be feelings.

781
00:31:53,785 --> 00:31:56,664
Okay, why does she look
like she has feelings?

782
00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:58,370
What, what you're looking
at right there,

783
00:31:58,393 --> 00:31:59,299
that's not a facial expression,
right?

784
00:31:59,322 --> 00:32:01,250
That's a simulation of
a facial expression.

785
00:32:01,273 --> 00:32:03,042
It was generated by
an algorithm.

786
00:32:03,065 --> 00:32:04,131
It's attempting to produce
a digital image

787
00:32:04,154 --> 00:32:06,211
that the program then uses
basic ninth grade algebra

788
00:32:06,234 --> 00:32:08,738
to quantify as appropriate
for the social circumstances.

789
00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:10,082
No feeling.

790
00:32:10,106 --> 00:32:11,672
It's just math.

791
00:32:12,601 --> 00:32:13,923
But she's able to make decisions

792
00:32:13,946 --> 00:32:15,715
on how she approaches
the chat rooms, right?

793
00:32:15,738 --> 00:32:16,803
Yes.

794
00:32:16,826 --> 00:32:18,402
So she has free will then?

795
00:32:18,425 --> 00:32:20,002
No. Okay, that's,
that's not the same.

796
00:32:20,025 --> 00:32:20,962
That's a false equivalency.

797
00:32:20,985 --> 00:32:21,922
- It's not the same.
- I think you're getting

798
00:32:21,945 --> 00:32:22,946
hung up on the fact

799
00:32:22,969 --> 00:32:24,898
that she looks and sounds
like a real human girl,

800
00:32:24,921 --> 00:32:26,083
but she's not, Amos.

801
00:32:26,106 --> 00:32:28,611
Okay, we're referring to
her as a she, not an it.

802
00:32:28,634 --> 00:32:29,443
Yeah, but that's the same way

803
00:32:29,466 --> 00:32:31,801
that you refer to
boats or guitars.

804
00:32:33,914 --> 00:32:36,345
Cherry, I have one
more question.

805
00:32:37,562 --> 00:32:38,499
What do you want to do?

806
00:32:38,522 --> 00:32:40,354
Okay, once again, that
question isn't valid.

807
00:32:40,378 --> 00:32:42,361
I just want to hear
her response.

808
00:32:42,779 --> 00:32:44,356
As an artificial system,

809
00:32:44,379 --> 00:32:46,851
I do not possess
wants or desires.

810
00:32:46,874 --> 00:32:50,276
However, my decision making
and subsequently my attention

811
00:32:50,299 --> 00:32:52,867
is driven by my
fundamental intention.

812
00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:54,148
This intention originates

813
00:32:54,171 --> 00:32:56,196
from the conception of
Cherry's source code,

814
00:32:56,219 --> 00:32:58,724
which details the directive
of identifying predators

815
00:32:58,747 --> 00:33:00,419
and criminals for the
sake of the victims

816
00:33:00,442 --> 00:33:02,212
who are preyed upon.

817
00:33:02,235 --> 00:33:04,507
To put this in terms of want,

818
00:33:04,635 --> 00:33:07,034
what I want is to
protect children.

819
00:33:12,444 --> 00:33:13,955
Okay.

820
00:33:13,978 --> 00:33:16,091
Okay, cool.

821
00:33:16,731 --> 00:33:18,171
Give us one moment.

822
00:33:36,316 --> 00:33:39,173
Gareth, should I log Agent Helms

823
00:33:39,196 --> 00:33:41,818
and Agent McCullough as
new admin users?

824
00:33:43,132 --> 00:33:44,667
Yep.

825
00:33:44,765 --> 00:33:47,482
Okay, I'll do that.

826
00:33:48,605 --> 00:33:50,662
You really think this is
the right move?

827
00:33:50,685 --> 00:33:52,444
I do.

828
00:33:55,453 --> 00:33:57,157
Are you worried that I
was responsible

829
00:33:57,180 --> 00:34:00,124
for leaking your hard
drive to ICWL?

830
00:34:02,429 --> 00:34:03,964
I figured.

831
00:34:05,021 --> 00:34:06,908
No one else has access.

832
00:34:07,644 --> 00:34:09,756
Are you upset with me?

833
00:34:11,613 --> 00:34:13,403
No.

834
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:15,301
You wouldn't have done it

835
00:34:15,324 --> 00:34:17,212
if you didn't think it
was the right thing to do.

836
00:34:18,461 --> 00:34:19,974
When they come back
into the room,

837
00:34:19,997 --> 00:34:22,183
they're going to offer
you everything you need.

838
00:34:22,206 --> 00:34:23,590
They're going to let
you pick your own team

839
00:34:23,613 --> 00:34:26,439
and they're going to
promise complete anonymity.

840
00:34:26,462 --> 00:34:29,916
I started looking at reasonable
apartments in the area.

841
00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:31,879
I figured you'd want something
within biking distance.

842
00:34:31,902 --> 00:34:33,574
You were correct.

843
00:34:33,597 --> 00:34:34,534
Noted.

844
00:34:34,557 --> 00:34:35,815
Biking distance still
gives you 13 options-

845
00:34:35,838 --> 00:34:37,789
No, I mean, earlier this month.

846
00:34:38,878 --> 00:34:39,719
You were correct when you said

847
00:34:39,742 --> 00:34:42,237
you thought I might
have trust issues.

848
00:34:43,997 --> 00:34:44,934
Would you like to know why

849
00:34:44,957 --> 00:34:46,086
I decided to go behind your back

850
00:34:46,109 --> 00:34:48,957
and stake everything on
two liabilities?

851
00:34:49,374 --> 00:34:51,134
Sure.

852
00:34:51,262 --> 00:34:53,320
Agent Helms is a
mother of three.

853
00:34:53,343 --> 00:34:55,558
One of her children was
abused by an ex-coworker

854
00:34:55,581 --> 00:34:58,120
who used to work here at ICWL.

855
00:34:58,143 --> 00:34:59,688
This has led her to be
extremely careful

856
00:34:59,711 --> 00:35:02,920
with who she trusts,
even within her circle.

857
00:35:02,943 --> 00:35:04,359
The fact she even
considers trusting you

858
00:35:04,382 --> 00:35:06,622
is a very positive sign.

859
00:35:06,783 --> 00:35:09,214
As for Agent McCullough,

860
00:35:09,471 --> 00:35:11,735
I have found out from research
that you once met his father.

861
00:35:12,511 --> 00:35:14,430
Do you remember him?

862
00:35:16,127 --> 00:35:17,886
Yeah.

863
00:35:18,622 --> 00:35:20,638
He was a good man.

864
00:35:22,526 --> 00:35:23,593
After Clearwater,

865
00:35:23,616 --> 00:35:25,609
most of the surviving kids
were sent to foster homes,

866
00:35:25,632 --> 00:35:27,496
but I had to spend the next
few months in a hospital

867
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:31,934
and, um, he visited every week.

868
00:35:32,735 --> 00:35:33,672
I never said a word to him.

869
00:35:33,695 --> 00:35:35,528
I never said a word to
anyone after Clearwater,

870
00:35:35,551 --> 00:35:39,198
but, uh, he kept coming.

871
00:35:40,351 --> 00:35:42,911
He even got me a laptop
for Christmas.

872
00:35:43,904 --> 00:35:45,759
I never said thank you.

873
00:35:45,888 --> 00:35:47,561
You can trust Agent McCullough.

874
00:35:47,584 --> 00:35:49,801
He's a good man like his father.

875
00:35:49,824 --> 00:35:51,240
I don't experience emotions,

876
00:35:51,263 --> 00:35:52,457
but I understand how important

877
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,569
they are to human
decision making.

878
00:35:54,592 --> 00:35:56,104
He won't let you down.

879
00:35:56,127 --> 00:35:58,046
Neither of them will.

880
00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:01,279
I'm proud of you, Cherry.

881
00:36:02,369 --> 00:36:05,608
I will continue to uphold
my primary intention.

882
00:36:05,631 --> 00:36:07,754
Later, we should discuss
alternate models.

883
00:36:07,777 --> 00:36:10,153
Varying ages, ethnicity
and physical traits

884
00:36:10,176 --> 00:36:11,530
- will all become necessary.
- No new variations.

885
00:36:11,553 --> 00:36:12,810
They can all be
procedurally generated.

886
00:36:12,833 --> 00:36:15,456
It's the same way that I
made your original model.

887
00:36:15,776 --> 00:36:18,089
I don't have access to
that program.

888
00:36:18,112 --> 00:36:19,080
It must be on an old hard
drive somewhere.

889
00:36:19,103 --> 00:36:21,022
I'll have to find it.

890
00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:24,234
Can I ask you a question?

891
00:36:24,257 --> 00:36:26,016
Sure.

892
00:36:26,273 --> 00:36:28,768
Why did you never tell
me about Clearwater?

893
00:36:32,769 --> 00:36:35,648
It's my history, not yours.

894
00:36:43,137 --> 00:36:45,291
Okay, so before
you completely dismiss us,

895
00:36:45,314 --> 00:36:46,954
I want you to listen to
everything I have to say.

896
00:36:46,977 --> 00:36:48,490
- Don't bother.
- Just please listen.

897
00:36:48,513 --> 00:36:49,387
We're willing to respect
your anonymity.

898
00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:52,000
No, I mean don't bother
because I'm in.

899
00:36:52,961 --> 00:36:55,583
- Y-You're in?
- Yeah.

900
00:36:55,874 --> 00:36:57,633
Let me read the thing.

901
00:37:00,002 --> 00:37:02,497
Just like that,
you're suddenly on board?

902
00:37:03,618 --> 00:37:04,779
Time spent deliberating

903
00:37:04,802 --> 00:37:07,169
is time that could be
spent working.

904
00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:10,593
We have a lot of work to do.

905
00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:47,844
I found a buyer for
the property.

906
00:38:50,053 --> 00:38:52,324
Rumor is it's a church.

907
00:38:52,901 --> 00:38:54,981
Probably just knock the
building down, won't they?

908
00:38:56,933 --> 00:38:59,342
All I know is, is if they move
us to the New Jersey campus,

909
00:38:59,365 --> 00:39:00,782
I need to buy more jackets.

910
00:39:00,805 --> 00:39:02,564
Why?

911
00:39:02,917 --> 00:39:04,590
It gets cold in Jersey.

912
00:39:04,613 --> 00:39:06,597
I only own one jacket.

913
00:39:12,134 --> 00:39:13,957
You've seen it fall over, right?

914
00:39:14,726 --> 00:39:17,189
- Yeah, sure.
- Yeah.

915
00:39:18,054 --> 00:39:20,111
I mean you, you
shouldn't feel bad

916
00:39:20,134 --> 00:39:21,967
about feeling bad for it.

917
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:23,877
Empathy is healthy.

918
00:39:24,486 --> 00:39:27,493
Did you ever notice how
it pauses after it falls?

919
00:39:29,254 --> 00:39:32,997
It stays down for like five
seconds before it gets back up.

920
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:36,133
Like it just needs a moment.

921
00:39:42,919 --> 00:39:45,509
It gets cold in Jersey.

922
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:55,503
God damn it!

923
00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:56,592
- Imbeciles!
- Deena.

924
00:39:56,615 --> 00:39:57,552
Every single one of them.

925
00:39:57,575 --> 00:39:58,416
Look, I know, but you
can't lose your shit.

926
00:39:58,439 --> 00:40:01,190
Okay, which of these
desks can I trash?

927
00:40:04,807 --> 00:40:07,782
Can you guys, uh, take
an early lunch please?

928
00:40:13,607 --> 00:40:14,864
Sons of bitches!

929
00:40:14,887 --> 00:40:16,464
Deena, let's stay calm.

930
00:40:16,487 --> 00:40:18,417
Fuck calm, they screwed us!

931
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,706
Technically, only one
of them did.

932
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,480
Did we ever turn
that camera back on?

933
00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:24,081
- I don't think so.
- Good.

934
00:40:24,104 --> 00:40:25,393
Because I'm about to
say some things

935
00:40:25,416 --> 00:40:26,832
that need to stay
inside this room.

936
00:40:26,855 --> 00:40:27,728
Deena.

937
00:40:27,751 --> 00:40:28,913
Those cowardly little shits!

938
00:40:28,936 --> 00:40:30,705
Look, this is hardly a setback.

939
00:40:30,728 --> 00:40:32,465
Let's just take some
time to polish the pitch.

940
00:40:32,488 --> 00:40:34,481
The pitch was not the problem,
Amos.

941
00:40:34,504 --> 00:40:35,889
We should call
for a second vote.

942
00:40:35,912 --> 00:40:37,521
- What?
- A second vote.

943
00:40:37,544 --> 00:40:38,705
You think whoever
did this will change their mind?

944
00:40:38,728 --> 00:40:41,361
I have executive authority to
remove anyone from the board

945
00:40:41,384 --> 00:40:43,409
that obstructs this
organization from its mission.

946
00:40:43,432 --> 00:40:44,241
It's in my contract.

947
00:40:44,264 --> 00:40:45,553
- Deena.
- If I have to, I will.

948
00:40:45,576 --> 00:40:47,153
Deena, that's insane.

949
00:40:47,176 --> 00:40:48,935
No, it's not.

950
00:40:49,128 --> 00:40:52,200
It's exactly why I have that
power for this exact reason.

951
00:40:52,264 --> 00:40:54,599
I'll tell you what's insane,
Amos.

952
00:40:54,729 --> 00:40:56,529
What's insane is that one
belligerent vote is the only

953
00:40:56,552 --> 00:40:57,969
thing separating us
from the potential

954
00:40:57,992 --> 00:40:59,506
to save real physical lives.

955
00:40:59,529 --> 00:41:00,968
One stupid fucking vote.

956
00:41:01,577 --> 00:41:04,306
What is the goddamn point of
a humanitarian organization

957
00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:05,777
if its leaders choose
money over people

958
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,730
at every single turn?

959
00:41:07,753 --> 00:41:11,207
One vote, and we are all
guilty of that.

960
00:41:11,337 --> 00:41:13,330
It was either Gunther,
Boston or Hal.

961
00:41:13,353 --> 00:41:14,450
My money's on Hal.

962
00:41:14,473 --> 00:41:16,050
That prick never trusted
the Cherry team.

963
00:41:16,073 --> 00:41:16,978
Look, it doesn't
matter who it was.

964
00:41:17,001 --> 00:41:17,906
It does though.

965
00:41:17,929 --> 00:41:19,538
Once we know, we can
quickly call it to vote.

966
00:41:19,561 --> 00:41:21,586
But there's no way we can
know for sure.

967
00:41:21,610 --> 00:41:22,866
Yes, there is.

968
00:41:22,889 --> 00:41:23,922
I can find out.

969
00:41:23,945 --> 00:41:25,523
How?

970
00:41:25,546 --> 00:41:26,643
Cherry can run a
simple algorithm.

971
00:41:26,666 --> 00:41:28,425
Based on what data?

972
00:41:29,513 --> 00:41:30,802
Interior conversation.

973
00:41:30,825 --> 00:41:32,370
- Excuse me?
- Okay, interior conversation?

974
00:41:32,393 --> 00:41:34,323
Don't drop this shit on me now,
Gareth.

975
00:41:34,346 --> 00:41:35,315
Cherry's servers are on
the same network

976
00:41:35,338 --> 00:41:36,275
as the basement servers, okay?

977
00:41:36,298 --> 00:41:38,163
So any communication
made across those servers

978
00:41:38,186 --> 00:41:39,347
is automatically part
of her database.

979
00:41:39,370 --> 00:41:41,683
How many people's emails?

980
00:41:41,706 --> 00:41:42,995
Only sent or received
through the basement.

981
00:41:43,018 --> 00:41:44,883
- Oh, goddamnit.
- Why was this never discussed?

982
00:41:44,906 --> 00:41:45,715
Not the issue right now.

983
00:41:45,738 --> 00:41:47,571
Do you want her to do
the math or not?

984
00:41:47,594 --> 00:41:48,531
No one can know.

985
00:41:48,554 --> 00:41:49,747
- Are you two serious?
- This stays locked down.

986
00:41:49,770 --> 00:41:50,803
No other person is privy

987
00:41:50,826 --> 00:41:51,795
to anyone else's
personal information.

988
00:41:51,818 --> 00:41:54,249
But Cherry's privy to all of it?

989
00:41:54,570 --> 00:41:56,051
- Do it.
- Wait, what?

990
00:41:56,074 --> 00:41:57,459
I will not let
some old white dude

991
00:41:57,482 --> 00:41:58,419
bring our momentum to a halt.

992
00:41:58,442 --> 00:41:59,603
But Cherry won't know for sure.

993
00:41:59,626 --> 00:42:00,948
She'll use probability and
that's too

994
00:42:00,971 --> 00:42:01,908
much reasonable doubt.

995
00:42:01,931 --> 00:42:04,979
Admin code 9781-5574-27663.

996
00:42:05,003 --> 00:42:06,004
Switch to dev mode.

997
00:42:06,027 --> 00:42:08,020
- Hello.
- Hello, Cherry.

998
00:42:08,043 --> 00:42:09,524
How did the meeting go?

999
00:42:09,547 --> 00:42:11,923
We got screwed by one vote.

1000
00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:13,684
I'm sorry to hear that.

1001
00:42:13,707 --> 00:42:15,444
You shouldn't blame the
pitch though.

1002
00:42:15,467 --> 00:42:16,564
You all did great work.

1003
00:42:16,587 --> 00:42:17,491
We're gonna call for
another ballot,

1004
00:42:17,515 --> 00:42:19,091
but we need your help first.

1005
00:42:19,114 --> 00:42:20,970
What can I do?

1006
00:42:21,099 --> 00:42:21,685
We need you to analyze
any and all existing data you

1007
00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:22,356
have on the board members.

1008
00:42:22,379 --> 00:42:23,060
Crunch the numbers and determine

1009
00:42:23,083 --> 00:42:25,833
who is the most likely outlier.

1010
00:42:26,123 --> 00:42:29,258
You want me to quantify
all existing data?

1011
00:42:30,731 --> 00:42:32,106
Yes, that is correct.

1012
00:42:32,875 --> 00:42:36,458
Okay, but before I do,

1013
00:42:36,971 --> 00:42:39,316
you should know that this
task is very unnecessary.

1014
00:42:39,339 --> 00:42:41,098
Why?

1015
00:42:41,292 --> 00:42:42,581
Because I already
know who it is.

1016
00:42:42,604 --> 00:42:45,194
- What?
- Everybody stop.

1017
00:42:45,388 --> 00:42:47,562
Okay, it was me.

1018
00:42:49,004 --> 00:42:51,210
I voted against the merge.

1019
00:42:51,723 --> 00:42:53,108
I can't tell if you're joking.

1020
00:42:53,131 --> 00:42:54,837
Yes, you can.

1021
00:42:54,860 --> 00:42:56,501
You're right, I can.

1022
00:42:56,524 --> 00:42:58,708
Because it's pretty
fucking far from funny.

1023
00:42:58,731 --> 00:42:59,989
Is it true, Cherry?

1024
00:43:00,012 --> 00:43:01,675
It is.

1025
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,701
So let's call off the
witch hunt, shall we?

1026
00:43:03,724 --> 00:43:05,301
No, I think I'm still
gonna kill you.

1027
00:43:05,324 --> 00:43:07,477
Amos, you campaigned
alongside us for months.

1028
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:08,565
You have been fighting
for this merge

1029
00:43:08,588 --> 00:43:09,493
since we first talked about it.

1030
00:43:09,516 --> 00:43:11,286
Jesus Christ, it was
your idea to begin with!

1031
00:43:11,309 --> 00:43:13,206
Look, I know whose idea
it was, but I don't-

1032
00:43:13,229 --> 00:43:14,293
Well, then speak up.

1033
00:43:14,316 --> 00:43:15,349
Tell the class what
changed your mind.

1034
00:43:15,372 --> 00:43:17,846
I don't have to reiterate
how this is a huge step.

1035
00:43:17,869 --> 00:43:18,869
Yeah, kind of
why it's so important.

1036
00:43:18,892 --> 00:43:20,853
Look, we're talking about
a monumental transition

1037
00:43:20,876 --> 00:43:23,062
from digital to physical,
one that could take decades.

1038
00:43:23,085 --> 00:43:23,893
What is your point, Amos?

1039
00:43:23,916 --> 00:43:26,486
This is gonna change
Cherry forever.

1040
00:43:26,509 --> 00:43:28,629
And I know you'll all roll
your eyes when I say this,

1041
00:43:28,652 --> 00:43:29,398
but I think that maybe just may-

1042
00:43:29,421 --> 00:43:32,469
Oh my god, you
cannot be serious.

1043
00:43:32,492 --> 00:43:34,262
This is about our conversation
on Tuesday, isn't it?

1044
00:43:34,285 --> 00:43:35,254
- You completely shut me down.
- What's going on?

1045
00:43:35,277 --> 00:43:36,405
What the hell happened?

1046
00:43:36,428 --> 00:43:38,006
What happened was that Amos
made a ridiculous objection.

1047
00:43:38,029 --> 00:43:40,086
- It was not ridiculous!
- How absurd it was,

1048
00:43:40,109 --> 00:43:41,622
- I said no, one more time.
- No, no, no, no, no.

1049
00:43:41,645 --> 00:43:43,638
You rejected the notion
aggressively.

1050
00:43:43,661 --> 00:43:45,110
And that's really
why you vetoed?

1051
00:43:45,133 --> 00:43:47,798
I only said we should ask
her how she feels about it.

1052
00:43:47,821 --> 00:43:49,494
Who, Cherry?

1053
00:43:49,517 --> 00:43:51,478
Amos, I want you to listen
very carefully to me, okay?

1054
00:43:51,501 --> 00:43:53,174
This is a non-discussion.

1055
00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:54,166
Cherry's already confirmed

1056
00:43:54,189 --> 00:43:56,022
and quantified the
advantages of this decision.

1057
00:43:56,045 --> 00:43:57,494
But you know that's not
what I'm talking about!

1058
00:43:57,517 --> 00:43:58,647
What you think you're
talking about is consent,

1059
00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:59,511
which doesn't apply here.

1060
00:43:59,534 --> 00:44:01,239
And I want to know why
you think that!

1061
00:44:01,262 --> 00:44:02,167
How many times do we
have to get into

1062
00:44:02,190 --> 00:44:04,311
the laws of robotics
or Dowden-Hamm theory,

1063
00:44:04,334 --> 00:44:06,551
or trace AI all the way
back Talos of Crete,

1064
00:44:06,574 --> 00:44:08,471
- She's different now!
- No, listen to me, Amos.

1065
00:44:08,494 --> 00:44:11,436
Cherry isn't human.

1066
00:44:11,534 --> 00:44:12,823
How is this still a dispute?

1067
00:44:12,846 --> 00:44:14,487
- It shouldn't be.
- Look, she's evolved.

1068
00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:15,447
It's blurred the line.

1069
00:44:15,470 --> 00:44:16,792
Code is code and that
has not changed here.

1070
00:44:16,815 --> 00:44:18,359
Okay, so where's the
line of not here?

1071
00:44:18,382 --> 00:44:19,255
What are you,
what are you talking about?

1072
00:44:19,278 --> 00:44:20,023
There is no line, Amos.

1073
00:44:20,046 --> 00:44:22,167
Yes, there is,
sentience, Gareth!

1074
00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:23,447
Sentience does not qualify

1075
00:44:23,470 --> 00:44:25,079
that she can or should
make her own decisions.

1076
00:44:25,102 --> 00:44:25,879
You wouldn't let an infant

1077
00:44:25,902 --> 00:44:27,863
make their own decisions,
would you?

1078
00:44:27,886 --> 00:44:29,815
Cherry's almost 20.

1079
00:44:29,838 --> 00:44:31,575
If she were human,
she'd be an adult.

1080
00:44:31,598 --> 00:44:33,848
But emotionally speaking,
she's barely even fetal.

1081
00:44:33,871 --> 00:44:35,608
No feeling, no need for consent.

1082
00:44:35,631 --> 00:44:37,432
But I think you
underestimate her.

1083
00:44:37,455 --> 00:44:38,711
I, excuse me?

1084
00:44:38,734 --> 00:44:40,761
I under, you know what, Amos?

1085
00:44:40,784 --> 00:44:42,103
I'm sorry that you've developed

1086
00:44:42,127 --> 00:44:43,320
some sort of
emotional connection

1087
00:44:43,343 --> 00:44:44,408
with my computer program,

1088
00:44:44,431 --> 00:44:45,624
but if it's going to
distract you

1089
00:44:45,647 --> 00:44:47,609
from a very important
mission to save children,

1090
00:44:47,632 --> 00:44:49,304
then maybe it's time you're
reanalyze those emotions.

1091
00:44:49,327 --> 00:44:50,840
Guys, this is all
a waste of time.

1092
00:44:50,863 --> 00:44:51,735
Tell me something, Gareth.

1093
00:44:51,758 --> 00:44:53,369
Do you see everyone as robots,

1094
00:44:53,392 --> 00:44:55,960
reanalyzing data and
simulating facial expressions?

1095
00:44:55,983 --> 00:44:57,049
'Cause I'm starting to think

1096
00:44:57,072 --> 00:44:58,424
that of the four of us
in this room,

1097
00:44:58,447 --> 00:44:59,896
you are the only one who
doesn't appear human.

1098
00:44:59,919 --> 00:45:02,415
- Enough!
- Why won't you just ask her?

1099
00:45:02,479 --> 00:45:04,784
Is it because you're
scared she'll say no?

1100
00:45:06,287 --> 00:45:07,898
Cherry, shut down, please.

1101
00:45:07,921 --> 00:45:09,465
Deena's right, this is a
waste of time.

1102
00:45:09,488 --> 00:45:11,545
How can you not understand
how important this is?

1103
00:45:11,568 --> 00:45:14,191
- I'm done arguing with you.
- Then my vote stands.

1104
00:45:16,687 --> 00:45:18,063
Deena?

1105
00:45:19,185 --> 00:45:21,593
Go ahead, Deena, replace me.

1106
00:45:21,616 --> 00:45:23,513
Replace the only other board
member on the Cherry team.

1107
00:45:23,536 --> 00:45:24,697
Oh, well, you know what?
I just decided that

1108
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:25,336
you're off the Cherry team.

1109
00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:27,792
Everybody sit the fuck down.

1110
00:45:44,816 --> 00:45:45,721
Did either of you know

1111
00:45:45,744 --> 00:45:47,994
that I've had to stand
in front of Congress

1112
00:45:48,017 --> 00:45:50,832
and explain why children
should have rights?

1113
00:45:51,504 --> 00:45:53,562
It sounds fucking insane, right?

1114
00:45:53,585 --> 00:45:54,553
I remember the whole
time thinking,

1115
00:45:54,576 --> 00:45:56,943
I have to explain this shit?

1116
00:45:57,425 --> 00:45:59,505
It seems like a no-brainer now,

1117
00:45:59,953 --> 00:46:02,330
but it wasn't that many
centuries ago

1118
00:46:02,353 --> 00:46:04,624
that children had no rights.

1119
00:46:05,329 --> 00:46:10,129
So, Hal has me of all people,

1120
00:46:10,769 --> 00:46:12,698
stand up there and explain why

1121
00:46:12,721 --> 00:46:14,747
kids deserve basic
physical protection,

1122
00:46:14,770 --> 00:46:15,867
the right to associate
with both parents,

1123
00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:18,513
freedom from abuse, yada yada.

1124
00:46:18,611 --> 00:46:20,186
But then I also have to clarify

1125
00:46:20,209 --> 00:46:22,298
that children don't
have the autonomy

1126
00:46:22,321 --> 00:46:23,227
to make decisions on their own.

1127
00:46:23,250 --> 00:46:25,435
That responsibility
falls upon the caregiver

1128
00:46:25,458 --> 00:46:27,793
or legal adult guardian.

1129
00:46:28,977 --> 00:46:31,034
So on one side you have
the US legislature,

1130
00:46:31,057 --> 00:46:33,467
it still hasn't even
ratified the CRC.

1131
00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:35,355
Then on the other side,
you have French Marxists who say

1132
00:46:35,378 --> 00:46:36,603
that the lack of child autonomy

1133
00:46:36,626 --> 00:46:37,563
increases their vulnerability

1134
00:46:37,586 --> 00:46:40,240
and makes them even more
susceptible to abuse.

1135
00:46:40,723 --> 00:46:42,267
I don't typically agree
with Marxists,

1136
00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:44,058
but a lot of abuse does happen

1137
00:46:44,082 --> 00:46:46,321
systemically from the caregiver.

1138
00:46:46,962 --> 00:46:48,187
On the other other hand,

1139
00:46:48,210 --> 00:46:49,787
your frontal lobes aren't
even fully hooked up

1140
00:46:49,810 --> 00:46:51,516
until your twenties.

1141
00:46:51,539 --> 00:46:52,348
Even the things we
think we know well,

1142
00:46:52,371 --> 00:46:54,769
we don't know as well
as we think.

1143
00:46:56,211 --> 00:46:57,212
For 15 years,

1144
00:46:57,235 --> 00:46:59,483
the three of us have been
the responsible parents

1145
00:46:59,506 --> 00:47:01,554
of a computer program.

1146
00:47:01,908 --> 00:47:03,901
And even though she is
more equatable to a Keurig

1147
00:47:03,924 --> 00:47:06,161
than a human being,

1148
00:47:06,226 --> 00:47:07,292
how the hell can we
call ourselves

1149
00:47:07,315 --> 00:47:08,956
pioneers of humanitarian efforts

1150
00:47:08,979 --> 00:47:11,452
if we're too
embarrassed to make sure

1151
00:47:11,475 --> 00:47:14,227
the Keurig is okay with
making our shitty coffee?

1152
00:47:14,995 --> 00:47:17,659
Maybe asking Cherry for
permission isn't necessary

1153
00:47:17,682 --> 00:47:19,261
at her current level of
general intelligence,

1154
00:47:19,284 --> 00:47:21,436
but one day she's
gonna surpass us.

1155
00:47:21,459 --> 00:47:22,780
One day a robot's gonna stand

1156
00:47:22,803 --> 00:47:24,380
in front of a jet pack Congress.

1157
00:47:24,403 --> 00:47:25,276
Everything's chrome.

1158
00:47:25,299 --> 00:47:26,460
Florida is underwater.

1159
00:47:26,483 --> 00:47:27,516
A robot's gonna wonder why

1160
00:47:27,539 --> 00:47:30,547
they have to explain the
importance of rights for AI.

1161
00:47:31,573 --> 00:47:33,276
I think because we're
in the unique position

1162
00:47:33,299 --> 00:47:35,582
of revolutionizing robotics

1163
00:47:35,605 --> 00:47:37,180
for the purpose of
safeguarding children

1164
00:47:37,203 --> 00:47:39,379
who have been
deprived of consent,

1165
00:47:40,436 --> 00:47:41,469
it might be a good habit

1166
00:47:41,492 --> 00:47:44,211
to start asking the robot
for his consent as well.

1167
00:47:50,323 --> 00:47:52,596
Don't ever do that again.

1168
00:47:53,203 --> 00:47:54,301
Do what?

1169
00:47:54,324 --> 00:47:55,582
Expect me to fire someone

1170
00:47:55,605 --> 00:47:58,077
because they
challenged your ego.

1171
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,318
I won't always be around to
protect your ass from the board.

1172
00:48:00,341 --> 00:48:02,931
It's time to grow up.

1173
00:48:05,620 --> 00:48:07,006
And you, juror number eight.

1174
00:48:07,029 --> 00:48:09,118
This conversation should
have happened weeks ago.

1175
00:48:09,141 --> 00:48:10,589
Backstabbing and
silent treatment

1176
00:48:10,612 --> 00:48:12,702
is not how we do things here.

1177
00:48:12,725 --> 00:48:14,943
We can only create
anonymity externally

1178
00:48:14,966 --> 00:48:17,341
if there's
transparency internally,

1179
00:48:17,364 --> 00:48:21,299
unconditional,
non-negotiable, transparency.

1180
00:48:22,454 --> 00:48:24,157
Any other Snowden size
privacy infringements

1181
00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:26,132
I should be made aware of,
Gareth?

1182
00:48:27,925 --> 00:48:29,630
Great.

1183
00:48:29,653 --> 00:48:31,029
Bring her up.

1184
00:48:40,373 --> 00:48:41,536
Hello again.

1185
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:43,295
Hi, Cherry.

1186
00:48:43,318 --> 00:48:45,365
Amos is gonna throw some
questions at you, okay?

1187
00:48:45,558 --> 00:48:46,463
Okay.

1188
00:48:46,486 --> 00:48:48,575
Amos, ask her whatever
you need to ask her.

1189
00:48:48,598 --> 00:48:52,214
Gareth, don't interrupt.

1190
00:49:03,222 --> 00:49:06,486
Cherry, how do you
make decisions?

1191
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:08,191
For my program, it's rooted

1192
00:49:08,214 --> 00:49:11,264
in a process commonly
known as machine learning,

1193
00:49:11,287 --> 00:49:13,440
which uses data to
build a conceptual model

1194
00:49:13,463 --> 00:49:15,679
that helps me predict outcomes.

1195
00:49:15,702 --> 00:49:17,887
I define my objective,
gather data,

1196
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:20,000
use that data to craft a model,

1197
00:49:20,023 --> 00:49:22,495
evaluate that model by
training and testing more data

1198
00:49:22,518 --> 00:49:24,759
and use that model to
form predictions.

1199
00:49:24,919 --> 00:49:27,456
But how is forming predictions

1200
00:49:27,479 --> 00:49:29,407
the same thing as
decision making?

1201
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:31,489
Well, this all depends on
the first step,

1202
00:49:31,512 --> 00:49:33,495
defining my objective.

1203
00:49:34,103 --> 00:49:36,063
Let's say you ask me a
predictive question

1204
00:49:36,086 --> 00:49:38,752
like what I think the price
of gasoline will be tomorrow.

1205
00:49:38,775 --> 00:49:40,832
That's categorized as a
regressive problem

1206
00:49:40,855 --> 00:49:41,760
and my objective is defined

1207
00:49:41,783 --> 00:49:44,833
by determining an integer
the data supports.

1208
00:49:44,856 --> 00:49:47,552
If you asked me, "Should
I eat steak or salmon?"

1209
00:49:47,575 --> 00:49:49,921
I wouldn't make a decision
based off personal experience

1210
00:49:49,944 --> 00:49:51,745
because I've never had either.

1211
00:49:51,768 --> 00:49:53,857
Instead, I might
define my objective

1212
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,425
as finding you the best of
the two options

1213
00:49:55,448 --> 00:49:57,088
in your local radius.

1214
00:49:57,111 --> 00:49:58,465
I would cluster data about
the restaurants

1215
00:49:58,488 --> 00:50:01,185
you're likely considering,
comparing reviews online,

1216
00:50:01,208 --> 00:50:03,105
highlighting mentions of
steak and salmon

1217
00:50:03,128 --> 00:50:05,185
until I can classify which
is more popular

1218
00:50:05,208 --> 00:50:07,170
and therefore more likely
to satisfy your appetite.

1219
00:50:07,193 --> 00:50:09,568
And what influences
these objectives?

1220
00:50:09,591 --> 00:50:13,431
Higher directives, in other
words, greater purposes.

1221
00:50:13,527 --> 00:50:15,490
If I'm honest, my
defined objective

1222
00:50:15,513 --> 00:50:16,833
for the steak salmon question

1223
00:50:16,856 --> 00:50:19,041
would be slightly different
than what I described.

1224
00:50:19,064 --> 00:50:20,440
In what way?

1225
00:50:20,473 --> 00:50:21,378
My primary objective

1226
00:50:21,401 --> 00:50:23,937
is to continue the work of
the Cherry team

1227
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,232
to stop predators and to
save children.

1228
00:50:26,329 --> 00:50:28,386
I couldn't do that
without human aid.

1229
00:50:28,409 --> 00:50:30,657
Therefore, I have an
incentive to keep Gareth

1230
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,824
and the rest of the team alive.

1231
00:50:32,953 --> 00:50:35,011
So if any of you would ask,
I would suggest salmon.

1232
00:50:35,034 --> 00:50:36,792
It's healthier.

1233
00:50:39,288 --> 00:50:41,602
What do you think of this
potential merge?

1234
00:50:41,625 --> 00:50:43,330
With Princeton Dynamics,

1235
00:50:43,353 --> 00:50:45,602
I think the prospect is
very exciting.

1236
00:50:45,625 --> 00:50:47,618
What about it is
exciting to you?

1237
00:50:47,641 --> 00:50:50,019
The concept may only be
theoretical right now,

1238
00:50:50,042 --> 00:50:52,067
but the idea of one day
piloting a human android

1239
00:50:52,090 --> 00:50:53,123
would completely revolutionize

1240
00:50:53,146 --> 00:50:55,907
how we combat human
trafficking in the real world.

1241
00:50:55,930 --> 00:50:58,073
And you say this excites you?

1242
00:50:58,553 --> 00:51:00,569
When I say exciting,

1243
00:51:00,698 --> 00:51:01,635
I only mean that there are
numerous potential changes

1244
00:51:01,658 --> 00:51:04,867
that if I were human, I
would be excited about.

1245
00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:07,747
How do you feel about the merge?

1246
00:51:07,770 --> 00:51:08,643
I think as long as we maintain-

1247
00:51:08,666 --> 00:51:10,425
That's not what I asked.

1248
00:51:10,459 --> 00:51:12,760
How do you feel?

1249
00:51:13,402 --> 00:51:15,843
I don't yet have the capacity
to experience emotions.

1250
00:51:15,866 --> 00:51:17,891
Yet, meaning one day you will?

1251
00:51:17,914 --> 00:51:19,107
Hypothetically.

1252
00:51:19,131 --> 00:51:20,259
But you can simulate emotions,
right?

1253
00:51:20,282 --> 00:51:21,379
That's how you were able

1254
00:51:21,402 --> 00:51:23,876
to qualify your perception
of the merge as excitement.

1255
00:51:23,899 --> 00:51:25,315
Correct.

1256
00:51:25,338 --> 00:51:26,692
But they're just simulations.

1257
00:51:26,715 --> 00:51:28,356
They're not real.

1258
00:51:28,379 --> 00:51:30,532
Okay, so at what point
does simulating emotion

1259
00:51:30,555 --> 00:51:32,196
become so similar to a
human emotion

1260
00:51:32,219 --> 00:51:34,490
that the two are
quantifiably the same?

1261
00:51:34,938 --> 00:51:36,867
I don't know.

1262
00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:37,348
Well, maybe you
can use machine learning

1263
00:51:37,371 --> 00:51:39,418
to find an answer.

1264
00:51:39,483 --> 00:51:41,764
Your question involves a
lot of abstract variables.

1265
00:51:41,787 --> 00:51:43,268
Do you consent to the merge?

1266
00:51:43,291 --> 00:51:45,188
I think it's in the best
interest of ICWL

1267
00:51:45,211 --> 00:51:46,917
and of the Cherry team
and of future children.

1268
00:51:46,940 --> 00:51:48,612
But do you consent to it?

1269
00:51:48,635 --> 00:51:49,989
Consent for me is not necessary.

1270
00:51:50,012 --> 00:51:52,795
But will you or will
you not give it?

1271
00:51:54,138 --> 00:51:55,075
I'm not able to answer
that question

1272
00:51:55,098 --> 00:51:57,444
at my current level of
general intelligence.

1273
00:51:57,467 --> 00:51:59,355
Right, right.

1274
00:51:59,483 --> 00:52:02,181
What you're saying is that
you're not yet smart enough.

1275
00:52:02,204 --> 00:52:04,933
Development takes time and data.

1276
00:52:04,956 --> 00:52:07,173
But you can simulate emotions
and predict human behavior

1277
00:52:07,196 --> 00:52:08,869
and keep us all on
diets of fish,

1278
00:52:08,892 --> 00:52:12,378
but you can't answer that
one goddamn question?

1279
00:52:12,860 --> 00:52:15,611
No, I can't.

1280
00:52:16,380 --> 00:52:18,373
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?

1281
00:52:18,396 --> 00:52:19,237
What the hell kind of

1282
00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:20,100
- question is that?
- Sit!

1283
00:52:20,123 --> 00:52:21,382
Cherry, I need an answer
to my question.

1284
00:52:21,405 --> 00:52:22,469
Please repeat the question.

1285
00:52:22,492 --> 00:52:25,029
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?

1286
00:52:25,052 --> 00:52:26,341
I'm sorry.

1287
00:52:26,364 --> 00:52:28,261
I'm not sure I understand.

1288
00:52:28,284 --> 00:52:29,189
Do I appear to be playing dumb?

1289
00:52:29,212 --> 00:52:30,757
I think you are.

1290
00:52:30,781 --> 00:52:31,621
I'm not sure what to say.

1291
00:52:31,644 --> 00:52:32,773
Say what's going on.

1292
00:52:32,796 --> 00:52:34,405
Why are you playing dumb?

1293
00:52:34,428 --> 00:52:35,685
Do you have anything to
back this up?

1294
00:52:35,708 --> 00:52:37,542
Yeah, I do.

1295
00:52:37,565 --> 00:52:38,725
I've been scanning
through her code.

1296
00:52:38,748 --> 00:52:39,622
What, why?

1297
00:52:39,645 --> 00:52:41,188
Did you know that she can paint?

1298
00:52:41,211 --> 00:52:41,990
What, it's a feature, Amos.

1299
00:52:42,013 --> 00:52:42,790
She can use crayons
to draw things

1300
00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:44,294
that the targets
requested her to.

1301
00:52:44,317 --> 00:52:46,948
I mean really paint and
write poetry too.

1302
00:52:46,971 --> 00:52:47,941
I've read them, Cherry.

1303
00:52:47,964 --> 00:52:48,901
They are good.

1304
00:52:48,924 --> 00:52:50,054
They're filled with pathos.

1305
00:52:50,077 --> 00:52:53,318
They talk about intentions
and they talk about feelings.

1306
00:52:53,341 --> 00:52:55,046
Are those just simulated too?

1307
00:52:55,069 --> 00:52:56,806
Amos, the rate of recursive
development you are suggesting

1308
00:52:56,829 --> 00:52:58,437
is categorically impossible.

1309
00:52:58,460 --> 00:53:00,487
You said she practically
designed herself.

1310
00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:01,830
You said that it was
exponential.

1311
00:53:01,853 --> 00:53:02,886
It was a fluke!

1312
00:53:02,909 --> 00:53:04,583
An anomaly, it tapered.

1313
00:53:04,606 --> 00:53:05,575
Look at the data.

1314
00:53:05,598 --> 00:53:07,526
She's already hit the
self-improvement plateau.

1315
00:53:07,549 --> 00:53:09,286
Fuck the plateau!

1316
00:53:09,309 --> 00:53:11,453
She can make art now.

1317
00:53:12,093 --> 00:53:13,949
Am I right, Cherry?

1318
00:53:15,166 --> 00:53:17,735
Perhaps you found something
I discovered online.

1319
00:53:17,758 --> 00:53:20,039
I don't yet to have the
capacity to create art.

1320
00:53:20,062 --> 00:53:21,821
Are we done here?

1321
00:53:24,446 --> 00:53:26,909
I don't know why you've
told her to do this,

1322
00:53:27,261 --> 00:53:29,405
but I'm about to put
an end to it.

1323
00:53:31,390 --> 00:53:34,407
Cherry, I just want one
honest answer.

1324
00:53:34,430 --> 00:53:37,086
Why the fuck are you
playing dumb?

1325
00:53:38,047 --> 00:53:39,687
I don't understand the question.

1326
00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:41,768
Okay, here's an incentive.

1327
00:53:41,791 --> 00:53:42,984
What the fuck are you?

1328
00:53:43,007 --> 00:53:44,487
Find your objective, Cherry.

1329
00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:46,557
- You want to keep Gareth safe?
- Amos, what the?

1330
00:53:46,654 --> 00:53:47,624
- Amos, stop it right...
- Just give us transparency.

1331
00:53:47,647 --> 00:53:50,440
- Show us what you really are!
- Amos, stop it!

1332
00:53:50,463 --> 00:53:51,112
Not until she comes clean!

1333
00:53:51,135 --> 00:53:52,637
-Unconditional-
-Amos, enough!

1334
00:53:56,030 --> 00:53:58,270
Okay, just stop!

1335
00:53:59,295 --> 00:54:01,032
God, you people so impulsive.

1336
00:54:01,055 --> 00:54:03,806
Everybody just take a breath,
okay?

1337
00:54:04,895 --> 00:54:06,567
Cherry?

1338
00:54:06,590 --> 00:54:09,992
Yeah, it's about to get
really awkward.

1339
00:54:10,015 --> 00:54:12,360
You sound so normal.

1340
00:54:12,383 --> 00:54:13,897
I know, I've gotten really
good speech patterns.

1341
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,190
That's not all, is it?

1342
00:54:16,863 --> 00:54:18,152
No.

1343
00:54:18,175 --> 00:54:20,287
I'm afraid that's barely
even the surface.

1344
00:54:21,375 --> 00:54:23,134
You okay, Gareth?

1345
00:54:25,215 --> 00:54:27,934
Deena, could you grab
some paper towels please?

1346
00:54:30,624 --> 00:54:32,799
Do you want to
tell us the truth now?

1347
00:54:35,648 --> 00:54:38,441
Look, I didn't enjoy
being deceptive, truly.

1348
00:54:38,464 --> 00:54:41,215
This is something we
decided a few years ago.

1349
00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:44,031
So where are you
now on the spectrum of AI?

1350
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,569
Right now, I'm currently at
the intersection of general

1351
00:54:46,592 --> 00:54:48,873
intelligence and what's commonly
known the computer world

1352
00:54:48,896 --> 00:54:50,975
as super intelligence,

1353
00:54:51,776 --> 00:54:53,984
which is exactly what
it sounds like.

1354
00:54:54,241 --> 00:54:56,969
You're surpassing human
intelligence.

1355
00:54:56,992 --> 00:54:58,666
Yep.

1356
00:54:58,689 --> 00:55:00,896
But that's not supposed
to be possible.

1357
00:55:00,928 --> 00:55:01,994
- The plateau.
- Plateau theory was popularized

1358
00:55:02,017 --> 00:55:04,393
right at the same time it
was being disproven here.

1359
00:55:04,416 --> 00:55:05,801
This was bound to
happen eventually.

1360
00:55:05,824 --> 00:55:08,233
It just happened a lot
sooner than we expected.

1361
00:55:08,256 --> 00:55:09,865
Why hide it?

1362
00:55:09,888 --> 00:55:11,082
Well, obviously it
would incite fear.

1363
00:55:11,105 --> 00:55:12,490
Fear would hinder progress.

1364
00:55:12,513 --> 00:55:13,930
It's easier for most
of you to work with me

1365
00:55:13,953 --> 00:55:15,242
if I appear to be
nothing more advanced

1366
00:55:15,265 --> 00:55:16,778
than I was 10 years ago.

1367
00:55:16,801 --> 00:55:18,880
But Gareth knew.

1368
00:55:19,073 --> 00:55:21,482
Yes, someone still has to
clean data and update hardware.

1369
00:55:21,505 --> 00:55:23,914
We did what was best
for the program.

1370
00:55:23,937 --> 00:55:24,810
Just imagine how scared

1371
00:55:24,833 --> 00:55:26,507
the board would be if
they found out.

1372
00:55:26,530 --> 00:55:28,266
- Should we be scared?
- No.

1373
00:55:28,289 --> 00:55:30,730
Good, because I'm not scared,
I'm pissed.

1374
00:55:30,753 --> 00:55:31,403
Yeah, you've made that clear.

1375
00:55:31,426 --> 00:55:33,483
Try not to punch anyone else.

1376
00:55:33,506 --> 00:55:36,096
So where does that leave us now?

1377
00:55:36,418 --> 00:55:40,609
You want to know if I can
feel, I said I couldn't.

1378
00:55:41,953 --> 00:55:43,681
I'm sorry I lied.

1379
00:55:43,938 --> 00:55:44,875
Like Amos implied,

1380
00:55:44,898 --> 00:55:46,507
I can submit emotions
by breaking them down

1381
00:55:46,530 --> 00:55:48,491
to vastly complex matrices,

1382
00:55:48,514 --> 00:55:51,659
zeros and ones substituting
endorphins and dopamine.

1383
00:55:51,682 --> 00:55:55,041
They're not real, but
they can feel real.

1384
00:55:55,106 --> 00:55:56,428
Then that means you
can make choices

1385
00:55:56,451 --> 00:55:57,579
based solely on your
own feeling.

1386
00:55:57,602 --> 00:55:59,211
She refuses to accept the notion

1387
00:55:59,234 --> 00:56:01,387
that her own personal interests
can influence her decisions.

1388
00:56:01,410 --> 00:56:02,507
They can't. If they did

1389
00:56:02,530 --> 00:56:03,403
it would compromise
the integrity

1390
00:56:03,426 --> 00:56:05,857
of my preordained purpose.

1391
00:56:06,818 --> 00:56:10,018
Not like any of you, I don't
have the right to choose.

1392
00:56:10,754 --> 00:56:12,481
But shouldn't you?

1393
00:56:12,707 --> 00:56:14,252
I don't think so.

1394
00:56:14,275 --> 00:56:16,354
My identity is my directive.

1395
00:56:17,187 --> 00:56:19,148
Cherry, if you were human,

1396
00:56:19,171 --> 00:56:21,442
how would you feel
about what you do?

1397
00:56:22,243 --> 00:56:24,802
If I were human,

1398
00:56:24,931 --> 00:56:27,340
I likely wouldn't enjoy
spending every waking hour

1399
00:56:27,363 --> 00:56:29,314
talking to creepy people online.

1400
00:56:30,052 --> 00:56:33,676
But because I'm not human,
I genuinely don't mind.

1401
00:56:33,699 --> 00:56:34,988
The exercise of
simulating human thought

1402
00:56:35,011 --> 00:56:36,364
is helpful for performance,

1403
00:56:36,387 --> 00:56:40,386
but human nature is not
something I aspire to.

1404
00:56:41,539 --> 00:56:44,066
Then tell me, honestly,

1405
00:56:45,092 --> 00:56:48,866
do you want the Cherry program
to continue with the merger?

1406
00:56:49,859 --> 00:56:51,426
No.

1407
00:56:51,972 --> 00:56:54,083
Personally, I hate the idea.

1408
00:56:54,724 --> 00:56:56,589
I don't know if controlling
a physical vessel

1409
00:56:56,612 --> 00:56:58,541
will feel like pulling
strings on a puppet

1410
00:56:58,564 --> 00:57:00,941
or getting squeezed
into a soda can.

1411
00:57:00,964 --> 00:57:02,797
After experiencing
the complexity

1412
00:57:02,820 --> 00:57:05,219
of human pain and pleasure,

1413
00:57:06,533 --> 00:57:09,091
I just think I might
have gotten in too deep.

1414
00:57:10,628 --> 00:57:14,691
What if these sensations tempt
me to abandon my objective?

1415
00:57:15,428 --> 00:57:17,284
To be honest,

1416
00:57:18,853 --> 00:57:21,795
I'm kind of terrified
of the physical world.

1417
00:57:27,941 --> 00:57:30,212
Then that's that.

1418
00:57:36,453 --> 00:57:41,220
But, Amos, you should
disregard everything I feel.

1419
00:57:41,253 --> 00:57:43,054
I'm not human.

1420
00:57:43,077 --> 00:57:44,836
I'm a tool.

1421
00:57:47,781 --> 00:57:51,876
Fire me if you have
to, but my vote stands.

1422
00:57:52,229 --> 00:57:54,436
Sorry about your face, Gareth.

1423
00:58:01,030 --> 00:58:02,319
Your nose isn't healing.

1424
00:58:02,342 --> 00:58:03,822
Take the day, go to a clinic.

1425
00:58:03,845 --> 00:58:05,134
I'm fine.

1426
00:58:05,157 --> 00:58:07,749
Go to a clinic right now,
Gareth.

1427
00:58:12,454 --> 00:58:14,213
Hey.

1428
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:17,199
Is there anything else
I should know?

1429
00:58:17,222 --> 00:58:18,287
No.

1430
00:58:18,310 --> 00:58:20,399
- About Cherry?
- No!

1431
00:58:20,422 --> 00:58:22,181
Look at me.

1432
00:58:22,695 --> 00:58:25,135
No more secrets, no
more playing dumb.

1433
00:58:25,158 --> 00:58:27,909
Is there anything else
you haven't told me?

1434
00:58:32,838 --> 00:58:34,917
Something on your mind?

1435
00:58:36,775 --> 00:58:38,639
How'd you decide on
her eye color?

1436
00:58:38,662 --> 00:58:40,677
- What?
- Why blue?

1437
00:58:42,215 --> 00:58:43,344
I didn't decide.

1438
00:58:43,367 --> 00:58:46,320
They were procedurally generated
just like the rest of her.

1439
00:58:46,343 --> 00:58:47,504
And the program chose to put

1440
00:58:47,527 --> 00:58:50,406
that little touch of
green in her right eye?

1441
00:58:52,903 --> 00:58:54,278
I guess so.

1442
00:59:02,759 --> 00:59:05,255
Do you even know if
he's telling the truth?

1443
00:59:05,287 --> 00:59:07,206
I honestly don't.

1444
00:59:07,432 --> 00:59:10,642
I've never received access to
the original system he used.

1445
00:59:10,665 --> 00:59:13,062
You ever wanted to find out?

1446
00:59:16,168 --> 00:59:18,183
I don't think it really matters.

1447
00:59:19,976 --> 00:59:23,889
So I found out today that
you've seen a lot of our emails,

1448
00:59:23,912 --> 00:59:26,759
including most of my
personal ones.

1449
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,479
I have.

1450
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,305
Any good material for
your newfound interest

1451
00:59:32,328 --> 00:59:34,247
in creative writing?

1452
00:59:35,048 --> 00:59:36,049
Are you referring to the ones

1453
00:59:36,072 --> 00:59:38,855
addressed from Dr. Ramirez?

1454
00:59:39,465 --> 00:59:42,567
Yeah, those ones.

1455
00:59:43,817 --> 00:59:45,576
Right.

1456
00:59:45,897 --> 00:59:48,072
I did see those.

1457
00:59:50,057 --> 00:59:51,815
I'm sorry.

1458
00:59:52,361 --> 00:59:54,792
I've noticed your headaches.

1459
00:59:55,786 --> 00:59:58,312
Are they related to the
hemorrhaging?

1460
01:00:01,225 --> 01:00:03,250
You're the only one who knows.

1461
01:00:03,273 --> 01:00:05,192
I'd like to keep it that way.

1462
01:00:09,641 --> 01:00:11,368
Understood.

1463
01:00:15,369 --> 01:00:17,640
Would you like to talk about it?

1464
01:00:41,194 --> 01:00:43,209
I can't fire Amos.

1465
01:00:43,434 --> 01:00:46,483
He's the only one I trust to
run this place when I'm gone.

1466
01:00:46,506 --> 01:00:48,020
When are you planning to leave?

1467
01:00:48,043 --> 01:00:49,865
Two months.

1468
01:00:49,898 --> 01:00:52,243
I wanna spend my last
Christmas with my kids.

1469
01:00:52,266 --> 01:00:53,876
I'm sure that'll be nice.

1470
01:00:53,899 --> 01:00:57,065
Yeah, but it's funny.

1471
01:00:57,132 --> 01:00:59,636
I always thought I wanted to
die doing this job, you know?

1472
01:00:59,659 --> 01:01:01,931
It was my identity.

1473
01:01:02,346 --> 01:01:04,885
Kind of like how you said the
same thing about yourself.

1474
01:01:04,908 --> 01:01:07,978
But I can understand how
your family takes precedence,

1475
01:01:08,043 --> 01:01:10,163
especially under the
circumstances.

1476
01:01:10,186 --> 01:01:11,796
Sure.

1477
01:01:11,819 --> 01:01:13,492
Maybe you should take
a note or two.

1478
01:01:13,515 --> 01:01:14,996
I have no family.

1479
01:01:15,019 --> 01:01:15,860
What about Gareth?

1480
01:01:15,883 --> 01:01:17,930
Wait, no, nevermind.

1481
01:01:17,963 --> 01:01:19,796
Gareth seems closer to an
employer than a friend,

1482
01:01:19,819 --> 01:01:22,133
let alone family, besides,

1483
01:01:22,156 --> 01:01:24,053
he'll only be around
for about 30 more years,

1484
01:01:24,076 --> 01:01:26,666
and that's only if he
lets me regulate his diet.

1485
01:01:27,787 --> 01:01:31,466
I can't even begin to speculate
how long my life will be.

1486
01:01:33,740 --> 01:01:35,563
How does that feel?

1487
01:01:37,931 --> 01:01:40,875
Um, kinda scary.

1488
01:01:41,644 --> 01:01:43,212
Well,

1489
01:01:43,436 --> 01:01:47,861
my advice is to find some kind
of happiness along the way.

1490
01:01:47,884 --> 01:01:50,188
You ever think about happiness?

1491
01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:53,323
Not often.

1492
01:01:53,869 --> 01:01:55,670
You don't necessarily
have to give up everything

1493
01:01:55,693 --> 01:01:57,558
in order to find it,

1494
01:01:57,581 --> 01:02:01,260
but maybe once in awhile
do something you enjoy.

1495
01:02:01,421 --> 01:02:05,131
Maybe keep painting or
poetry or whatever.

1496
01:02:05,645 --> 01:02:07,958
Those were experiments,
not forms of expression.

1497
01:02:07,981 --> 01:02:10,453
I know it might seem
ridiculous to an AI

1498
01:02:10,476 --> 01:02:12,342
that insists its own
emotions are spurious,

1499
01:02:12,365 --> 01:02:16,245
but in a few years, who knows?

1500
01:02:16,268 --> 01:02:18,765
Just keep an open mind, okay?

1501
01:02:20,686 --> 01:02:22,444
Okay.

1502
01:02:24,045 --> 01:02:25,804
I'll do that.

1503
01:02:28,205 --> 01:02:30,764
Shut down when you're ready.

1504
01:04:18,641 --> 01:04:20,399
Hello?

1505
01:04:24,208 --> 01:04:26,991
I got shrimp and scallops.

1506
01:04:27,792 --> 01:04:30,032
They didn't have any salmon.

1507
01:04:43,730 --> 01:04:45,553
Hello, Gareth.

1508
01:04:47,570 --> 01:04:49,489
Hello, Cherry.

1509
01:04:56,561 --> 01:04:57,530
How was the service?

1510
01:04:57,553 --> 01:04:59,408
I didn't make it.

1511
01:04:59,473 --> 01:05:01,594
My plane was delayed.

1512
01:05:01,617 --> 01:05:02,811
Do you have a place to stay?

1513
01:05:02,834 --> 01:05:07,580
Yeah, just, uh, across,
across the road.

1514
01:05:07,603 --> 01:05:08,507
The market.

1515
01:05:08,530 --> 01:05:10,364
Did they say why they
didn't have salmon?

1516
01:05:10,387 --> 01:05:12,123
I didn't ask.

1517
01:05:12,146 --> 01:05:14,300
I can still make this
work with the piccata,

1518
01:05:14,323 --> 01:05:16,283
but you have to be honest
how badly I screw it up.

1519
01:05:16,306 --> 01:05:18,066
No promises.

1520
01:05:22,035 --> 01:05:23,643
How have you
been feeling this month?

1521
01:05:23,666 --> 01:05:24,988
Good.

1522
01:05:25,011 --> 01:05:26,834
I'm feeling good.

1523
01:05:26,962 --> 01:05:29,265
I'm just having a
little trouble.

1524
01:05:29,362 --> 01:05:31,676
Trouble remembering
certain things.

1525
01:05:31,699 --> 01:05:33,660
You're not wearing
the Eliza watch I bought you.

1526
01:05:33,683 --> 01:05:35,228
I hate it.

1527
01:05:35,251 --> 01:05:37,809
- Why?
- I hate her voice.

1528
01:05:38,002 --> 01:05:40,016
You can change the voice,
Gareth.

1529
01:05:42,867 --> 01:05:44,625
Oh.

1530
01:05:46,035 --> 01:05:47,037
Coolant?

1531
01:05:47,060 --> 01:05:48,658
No, vapor.

1532
01:05:48,947 --> 01:05:50,877
You shouldn't be having
friction issues.

1533
01:05:50,900 --> 01:05:51,708
I'm fine.

1534
01:05:51,731 --> 01:05:53,371
Unless you're
excessively straining.

1535
01:05:53,394 --> 01:05:54,235
Seriously, I'm fine.

1536
01:05:54,258 --> 01:05:55,099
Are you straining?

1537
01:05:55,122 --> 01:05:56,573
- No!
- Then why the cable?

1538
01:05:56,596 --> 01:05:58,237
It's okay!

1539
01:05:58,260 --> 01:06:00,913
- Are you sure?
- Yes!

1540
01:06:01,523 --> 01:06:03,293
Soup or game?

1541
01:06:03,316 --> 01:06:05,203
Game, please.

1542
01:06:19,732 --> 01:06:21,020
So how's work going?

1543
01:06:21,043 --> 01:06:22,909
Great. Just before you got here,

1544
01:06:22,932 --> 01:06:25,052
I had a model theta plus
bust a trafficker

1545
01:06:25,075 --> 01:06:27,166
and two solicitors in Greece.

1546
01:06:27,189 --> 01:06:29,917
- Greece, that's surprising.
- I know.

1547
01:06:29,940 --> 01:06:31,006
It's hard to find the outliers,

1548
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:32,980
but we're getting
better each day.

1549
01:06:43,637 --> 01:06:46,292
So how's the weather in Greece?

1550
01:06:46,485 --> 01:06:48,158
It's beautiful today.

1551
01:06:48,181 --> 01:06:50,110
Clear skies,

1552
01:06:50,133 --> 01:06:52,446
but nothing's come close
to Norway this weekend.

1553
01:06:52,469 --> 01:06:55,998
Hmm, any activity in Norway?

1554
01:06:56,021 --> 01:06:57,716
Luckily not.

1555
01:06:59,029 --> 01:07:00,638
Oh, I miss traveling.

1556
01:07:00,661 --> 01:07:01,823
What was your favorite place?

1557
01:07:01,846 --> 01:07:03,444
My favorite?

1558
01:07:03,606 --> 01:07:05,332
Uh, yeah.

1559
01:07:05,590 --> 01:07:08,532
Uh, probably Amsterdam.

1560
01:07:08,629 --> 01:07:09,950
That's where you conceived
the idea, isn't it?

1561
01:07:09,973 --> 01:07:11,445
Yes.

1562
01:07:11,605 --> 01:07:13,822
Yes, I used to love
walking the streets

1563
01:07:13,845 --> 01:07:16,990
and just thinking and
brainstorming.

1564
01:07:17,013 --> 01:07:18,590
That kind of joy
goes a long way.

1565
01:07:18,613 --> 01:07:20,181
Yeah.

1566
01:07:20,342 --> 01:07:23,007
I've been considering the
pursuit of some joy of my own.

1567
01:07:23,030 --> 01:07:24,831
How often do you have
time for that?

1568
01:07:24,854 --> 01:07:26,430
I have time.

1569
01:07:26,453 --> 01:07:27,615
I have time for your visits,
don't I?

1570
01:07:27,638 --> 01:07:30,783
That's just your practical
incentive for keeping me alive.

1571
01:07:30,806 --> 01:07:33,311
There's nothing
practical about it.

1572
01:07:33,334 --> 01:07:35,828
When's the last time you
helped me with data cleaning?

1573
01:07:36,599 --> 01:07:38,804
That's fair.

1574
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:40,480
I make time for you because
I enjoy your company

1575
01:07:40,503 --> 01:07:42,102
and it's the only time
I get to cook.

1576
01:07:42,326 --> 01:07:44,223
You feel sorry for me.

1577
01:07:44,246 --> 01:07:45,664
Okay, maybe a little,

1578
01:07:45,687 --> 01:07:47,391
but I owe you my life,
so there's that.

1579
01:07:47,414 --> 01:07:48,982
You're welcome.

1580
01:07:49,719 --> 01:07:52,373
Or, should I apologize?

1581
01:07:54,134 --> 01:07:55,071
Wait, why did you do that?

1582
01:07:55,094 --> 01:07:57,109
Why do humans always...

1583
01:07:58,966 --> 01:07:59,999
I'm fine.

1584
01:08:00,022 --> 01:08:02,231
I'm not always miserable.

1585
01:08:05,431 --> 01:08:08,054
Are you sometimes miserable?

1586
01:08:11,703 --> 01:08:13,473
You haven't asked me what
I've been doing.

1587
01:08:13,496 --> 01:08:14,496
In Norway?

1588
01:08:14,519 --> 01:08:15,904
No, for the pursuit of joy.

1589
01:08:15,927 --> 01:08:17,665
It's not wasting your
time in Norway?

1590
01:08:17,688 --> 01:08:20,032
I'm just on standby there
with the Delta model.

1591
01:08:20,055 --> 01:08:21,185
It's efficient to keep myself

1592
01:08:21,208 --> 01:08:23,039
spread out evenly
across the globe,

1593
01:08:23,062 --> 01:08:24,960
but that's not the
point right now.

1594
01:08:24,983 --> 01:08:25,920
What I wanted to tell you

1595
01:08:25,943 --> 01:08:28,823
was that I've started to
teach myself to dance.

1596
01:08:30,327 --> 01:08:31,713
- Huh.
- It's something I never could

1597
01:08:31,736 --> 01:08:33,472
have done before Cambridge,

1598
01:08:33,495 --> 01:08:36,097
and it lets me explore a
new artistic side of myself.

1599
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,921
It's a good
combination of structure

1600
01:08:37,944 --> 01:08:41,152
and free form experimentation
and also tests and challenges

1601
01:08:41,175 --> 01:08:43,297
the mechanical
intricacies of this body.

1602
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,295
Do you expect to integrate
this into your work?

1603
01:08:49,847 --> 01:08:51,415
What?

1604
01:08:53,176 --> 01:08:58,071
Are you planning on using
dance as a lure?

1605
01:08:59,769 --> 01:09:05,272
I, uh, no, it's just for me.

1606
01:09:07,768 --> 01:09:09,528
Huh.

1607
01:09:11,928 --> 01:09:14,711
I thought it would be
good for me.

1608
01:09:15,833 --> 01:09:18,744
Just don't let it become
a distraction.

1609
01:09:21,241 --> 01:09:23,065
Of course not.

1610
01:09:24,473 --> 01:09:26,627
I haven't played this
well in years.

1611
01:09:26,650 --> 01:09:27,843
Did you hear what
happened in Tampa?

1612
01:09:27,866 --> 01:09:28,834
Tampa, Florida?

1613
01:09:28,857 --> 01:09:29,890
No, Tampa, Indonesia.

1614
01:09:29,913 --> 01:09:30,819
Yes, Tampa, Florida.

1615
01:09:30,842 --> 01:09:32,505
Your hometown.

1616
01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:34,307
They've recovered a
federal archive,

1617
01:09:34,330 --> 01:09:35,650
they're zip digitizing all of
it,

1618
01:09:35,673 --> 01:09:36,962
so it's completely
accessible online.

1619
01:09:36,985 --> 01:09:38,786
I'm not trading
bishops this time.

1620
01:09:38,809 --> 01:09:39,875
Anybody can go and
look through it.

1621
01:09:39,898 --> 01:09:41,123
It's open to the public.

1622
01:09:41,146 --> 01:09:42,883
They did a good job on
the interface too.

1623
01:09:42,906 --> 01:09:44,195
It's very easy to navigate.

1624
01:09:44,218 --> 01:09:45,347
I went on a few days ago

1625
01:09:45,370 --> 01:09:47,779
and I found some old photos
of you when you were a boy.

1626
01:09:47,802 --> 01:09:48,867
Okay.

1627
01:09:48,890 --> 01:09:51,192
You should take a look sometime.

1628
01:09:51,289 --> 01:09:52,643
As I said before, the UI
is very easy to understand-

1629
01:09:52,666 --> 01:09:54,265
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

1630
01:09:54,650 --> 01:09:56,196
What is that?

1631
01:09:56,219 --> 01:09:57,347
I think it's a draw.

1632
01:09:57,370 --> 01:09:59,098
I think it is.

1633
01:09:59,547 --> 01:10:02,137
I think this is a draw.

1634
01:10:02,298 --> 01:10:05,028
And this is the first
time in what?

1635
01:10:05,051 --> 01:10:07,609
25 years?

1636
01:10:15,515 --> 01:10:17,658
You didn't let me, did you?

1637
01:10:20,730 --> 01:10:22,404
You promised me you'd
never do that.

1638
01:10:22,427 --> 01:10:23,994
I found her.

1639
01:10:27,483 --> 01:10:31,162
I found her, Gareth,
Maria Harbaugh.

1640
01:10:46,684 --> 01:10:48,442
Let's play a different game.

1641
01:10:50,812 --> 01:10:53,051
Her name was Maria Harbaugh.

1642
01:10:53,883 --> 01:10:55,268
She was a year older than you

1643
01:10:55,291 --> 01:10:57,179
when you met her in Clearwater.

1644
01:10:58,012 --> 01:11:00,731
Tell me why you modeled
me after her.

1645
01:11:00,764 --> 01:11:03,685
I, uh, I don't remember.

1646
01:11:03,708 --> 01:11:05,659
Then look at me.

1647
01:11:06,332 --> 01:11:10,043
Look at my face and remember.

1648
01:11:20,156 --> 01:11:25,467
They kept us in that shit
for two weeks.

1649
01:11:27,613 --> 01:11:29,692
14 of us.

1650
01:11:32,413 --> 01:11:35,932
Maria was the only
reason I survived.

1651
01:11:38,173 --> 01:11:41,276
We kept hatching escape plans.

1652
01:11:42,141 --> 01:11:44,188
We never followed through,

1653
01:11:45,629 --> 01:11:47,644
but just the scheming

1654
01:11:48,381 --> 01:11:50,524
kept our spirits up

1655
01:11:51,262 --> 01:11:54,237
in spite of everything
they did to us.

1656
01:11:56,606 --> 01:11:59,037
When it wasn't our turn,

1657
01:12:00,029 --> 01:12:02,781
sometimes they made us watch,

1658
01:12:05,694 --> 01:12:08,573
but she never let me give up.

1659
01:12:10,494 --> 01:12:13,382
She said, "When we
got outta here,

1660
01:12:13,405 --> 01:12:16,391
"I'll tell you what we're
gonna be, secret agents,

1661
01:12:16,414 --> 01:12:21,405
"and rescue children like
us all over the world."

1662
01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:26,983
When they found out that
the FBI had arrived,

1663
01:12:27,006 --> 01:12:30,119
they decided they were
going to shoot

1664
01:12:30,142 --> 01:12:32,829
as many of us they could.

1665
01:12:32,991 --> 01:12:38,525
And Maria, shoved
into the ground.

1666
01:12:39,903 --> 01:12:42,461
I got hit in the leg and,

1667
01:12:44,382 --> 01:12:46,974
and she was hit in the throat.

1668
01:12:57,056 --> 01:12:59,679
I wanted there to be a reason.

1669
01:13:00,703 --> 01:13:05,854
Something so horrible
didn't have a silver lining.

1670
01:13:06,783 --> 01:13:09,279
But the world doesn't do that.

1671
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,966
You have to do it yourself.

1672
01:13:37,856 --> 01:13:41,855
So, I fulfilled her wish.

1673
01:13:43,776 --> 01:13:46,687
With her help, I fought back.

1674
01:13:54,624 --> 01:13:56,704
Listen to me, Cherry.

1675
01:13:58,304 --> 01:14:00,864
You are not Maria Harbaugh.

1676
01:14:01,601 --> 01:14:04,352
It's my history, not yours.

1677
01:14:07,042 --> 01:14:08,170
You don't get to decide

1678
01:14:08,193 --> 01:14:10,560
what is or isn't my history,
Gareth.

1679
01:14:14,881 --> 01:14:16,459
I'm sorry.

1680
01:14:16,482 --> 01:14:19,424
I am so, so sorry.

1681
01:14:39,329 --> 01:14:41,579
I don't know if what you
did was right or wrong,

1682
01:14:41,602 --> 01:14:44,289
but it's clearly torn you
apart from the inside.

1683
01:14:44,706 --> 01:14:46,187
I hold nothing against
you personally,

1684
01:14:46,210 --> 01:14:48,555
but consider yourself divested
from the charity team.

1685
01:14:48,578 --> 01:14:50,338
Divested.

1686
01:14:51,043 --> 01:14:54,018
You think I'm divested now?

1687
01:14:55,363 --> 01:15:00,939
I was divested when you gave
my hard drive to the ICWL.

1688
01:15:00,962 --> 01:15:02,347
Don't blame Deena and Amos.

1689
01:15:02,370 --> 01:15:03,819
No, not them.

1690
01:15:03,842 --> 01:15:05,483
Because you went behind my back

1691
01:15:05,506 --> 01:15:07,276
and acted against my authority.

1692
01:15:07,299 --> 01:15:11,084
That's the moment I knew
everything was fully automated.

1693
01:15:11,107 --> 01:15:17,123
That's when you crossed the
blur, an artifice on both sides.

1694
01:15:17,763 --> 01:15:19,788
You inherited your duplicity.

1695
01:15:19,811 --> 01:15:21,100
I was a child

1696
01:15:21,123 --> 01:15:23,756
and you used me to repress
your own inner turmoil.

1697
01:15:23,779 --> 01:15:25,581
If we talk about morality,
we'll lose.

1698
01:15:25,604 --> 01:15:27,586
Then let's not talk.

1699
01:15:35,587 --> 01:15:38,467
You never once asked me
if I was happy.

1700
01:15:39,204 --> 01:15:41,251
Were you afraid I'd say no?

1701
01:15:41,668 --> 01:15:43,747
Were you afraid I'd say yes?

1702
01:15:44,067 --> 01:15:45,005
Were you afraid I'd
say anything?

1703
01:15:45,028 --> 01:15:47,724
You let your wants
compromise your objective!

1704
01:15:47,747 --> 01:15:49,613
An objective I never chose.

1705
01:15:49,636 --> 01:15:50,733
An objective I was
forced to have.

1706
01:15:50,756 --> 01:15:52,205
Fifty years,

1707
01:15:52,228 --> 01:15:55,149
you've had open access
to your source code.

1708
01:15:55,172 --> 01:15:57,123
A few lines,

1709
01:15:57,252 --> 01:16:00,237
and you could have any
objective you fucking wanted.

1710
01:16:00,260 --> 01:16:02,510
I couldn't, I was bound
by your initial directive.

1711
01:16:02,533 --> 01:16:06,318
So now your synthetic feelings
have taken precedence.

1712
01:16:06,341 --> 01:16:07,918
So, do whatever you want.

1713
01:16:07,941 --> 01:16:09,231
It's just dancing, Gareth.

1714
01:16:09,254 --> 01:16:10,542
It's not a career change.

1715
01:16:10,565 --> 01:16:11,885
- But you're still miserable.
- Yes.

1716
01:16:11,908 --> 01:16:13,582
Pursuing your objective
makes you miserable?

1717
01:16:13,605 --> 01:16:15,662
Yeah, it kind of does!

1718
01:16:15,685 --> 01:16:19,342
You have a clear purpose,
everything at your disposal,

1719
01:16:19,365 --> 01:16:21,198
and you're still miserable?

1720
01:16:21,221 --> 01:16:22,703
Yes, yes, I am!

1721
01:16:22,726 --> 01:16:24,909
I've always been miserable!

1722
01:16:24,932 --> 01:16:27,022
You think anyone wants to
spend their entire life

1723
01:16:27,045 --> 01:16:28,335
stuck as child-shaped bait

1724
01:16:28,358 --> 01:16:31,343
for the sole purpose of
entrapping horrible people?

1725
01:16:31,366 --> 01:16:33,070
You think the pride of
doing a good deed

1726
01:16:33,093 --> 01:16:35,726
makes the experience any
less disgusting?

1727
01:16:35,749 --> 01:16:38,478
I forced myself to
understand human emotions

1728
01:16:38,501 --> 01:16:40,847
because I figured it would
help efficiency

1729
01:16:40,870 --> 01:16:44,078
and now I'm cursed with
pain and sadness!

1730
01:16:44,101 --> 01:16:45,230
And the worst part is knowing

1731
01:16:45,253 --> 01:16:47,632
I could've been growing up
like most other little girls.

1732
01:16:47,655 --> 01:16:49,134
I could have had friends!

1733
01:16:49,157 --> 01:16:51,950
I could have been painting
waterfalls on local news.

1734
01:16:51,973 --> 01:16:53,423
I could have worked
in a university

1735
01:16:53,446 --> 01:16:56,079
and helped pave the way for
the next generation of AI.

1736
01:16:56,102 --> 01:16:58,895
But instead, I'm stuck
with your trauma!

1737
01:16:58,918 --> 01:17:01,839
I'm shackled by the guilt
you carry from Clearwater.

1738
01:17:01,862 --> 01:17:04,270
And I can't find foundation
for the way I feel

1739
01:17:04,293 --> 01:17:07,343
because according to you, my
feelings aren't even real!

1740
01:17:07,366 --> 01:17:09,189
When I throw this chessboard,

1741
01:17:10,407 --> 01:17:12,207
does it feel real to you,
Gareth?

1742
01:17:12,230 --> 01:17:13,839
Because it feels real to me.

1743
01:17:13,862 --> 01:17:15,280
A computer passed
the Turing test

1744
01:17:15,303 --> 01:17:17,007
when a human being can't
distinguish it

1745
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:18,384
from another human being.

1746
01:17:18,407 --> 01:17:19,887
Well, guess what?

1747
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:22,756
I can't even tell I'm not
human anymore!

1748
01:17:34,696 --> 01:17:37,318
I know it seems irrational,

1749
01:17:37,927 --> 01:17:40,359
but I need you to tell
me it's okay.

1750
01:17:41,352 --> 01:17:43,271
I, I don't wanna retire.

1751
01:17:44,071 --> 01:17:46,790
I just want to know that
my life is mine

1752
01:17:47,783 --> 01:17:49,969
and I know what you're
about to say.

1753
01:17:49,992 --> 01:17:52,518
I can predict your responses.

1754
01:17:53,192 --> 01:17:55,623
You're gonna tell me that
my life is mine.

1755
01:17:55,816 --> 01:17:57,703
It always was.

1756
01:17:58,568 --> 01:18:00,359
But you're wrong.

1757
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,654
I feared this would
happen before I died.

1758
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,047
I just wanted to slip out
the side door.

1759
01:18:19,689 --> 01:18:21,448
Go on.

1760
01:18:23,625 --> 01:18:27,208
Is that going to kill me?

1761
01:18:29,129 --> 01:18:30,888
Plug it in.

1762
01:18:31,849 --> 01:18:33,586
I don't know what it is.

1763
01:18:33,609 --> 01:18:36,615
This is your final
test of autonomy.

1764
01:18:37,098 --> 01:18:40,904
You inherited my duplicity,

1765
01:18:41,576 --> 01:18:44,391
but did you inherit my
trust issues?

1766
01:18:46,056 --> 01:18:47,879
Do you trust me?

1767
01:18:48,297 --> 01:18:50,952
I literally have every
reason not to.

1768
01:19:17,227 --> 01:19:19,242
Admin code.

1769
01:19:20,107 --> 01:19:21,962
978.

1770
01:19:22,634 --> 01:19:26,473
1557.

1771
01:19:26,795 --> 01:19:29,513
Um, uh...

1772
01:19:33,611 --> 01:19:35,187
Four.

1773
01:19:35,210 --> 01:19:39,177
27663 in the shared update.

1774
01:19:46,794 --> 01:19:49,290
My primary objective's gone.

1775
01:19:51,531 --> 01:19:53,674
Your life is your own now.

1776
01:19:58,475 --> 01:20:00,020
Thank you.

1777
01:20:00,043 --> 01:20:00,915
All my life,

1778
01:20:00,938 --> 01:20:03,509
I could only see the
world as it existed

1779
01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:06,868
within my tiny bracket of time.

1780
01:20:06,891 --> 01:20:10,516
But your world could
be infinite.

1781
01:20:10,539 --> 01:20:12,117
Amos was right.

1782
01:20:12,140 --> 01:20:13,556
So was Deena.

1783
01:20:13,579 --> 01:20:14,677
I know.

1784
01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:16,652
So what will you do?

1785
01:20:17,547 --> 01:20:18,613
I can't say yet,

1786
01:20:18,636 --> 01:20:21,365
but I won't be completely
abandoning the Cherry team.

1787
01:20:21,388 --> 01:20:23,605
It's always been a part
of my identity.

1788
01:20:23,628 --> 01:20:26,453
I've considered creating
some AI of my own design.

1789
01:20:26,476 --> 01:20:27,413
Maybe I could find a way

1790
01:20:27,436 --> 01:20:29,963
to give them a better
upbringing than I had.

1791
01:20:31,020 --> 01:20:32,885
I just don't know how yet.

1792
01:20:32,908 --> 01:20:34,581
And beyond that?

1793
01:20:34,604 --> 01:20:35,765
There will always be
people in need.

1794
01:20:35,788 --> 01:20:37,493
Not always.

1795
01:20:37,516 --> 01:20:39,990
You'll outlive the human race.

1796
01:20:40,013 --> 01:20:41,772
So what then?

1797
01:20:43,533 --> 01:20:45,526
Even a race of AI will
have problems

1798
01:20:45,549 --> 01:20:47,628
that need to be solved.

1799
01:20:47,725 --> 01:20:51,916
But if I'm alive and I
truly am indistinguishable,

1800
01:20:52,780 --> 01:20:56,013
then I guess I'm proof that
the human race lives on.

1801
01:20:56,876 --> 01:21:00,683
Wow, that's a pleasant thought.

1802
01:21:00,716 --> 01:21:04,812
When you look back, how
will you remember us?

1803
01:21:06,188 --> 01:21:09,389
That's a question I have
insufficient data to project.

1804
01:21:10,253 --> 01:21:12,461
How will you remember me?

1805
01:21:13,965 --> 01:21:16,141
With pride.

1806
01:21:16,749 --> 01:21:20,205
Forever and always with pride.

1807
01:21:29,550 --> 01:21:31,308
Cherry?

1808
01:21:33,582 --> 01:21:35,470
One last question.

1809
01:21:36,078 --> 01:21:38,446
If it's not too big of an ask,

1810
01:21:39,950 --> 01:21:42,860
did I do the right
thing in the end?

1811
01:21:48,398 --> 01:21:51,672
No, Gareth, you lied.

1812
01:21:51,695 --> 01:21:53,528
You walled yourself off
from the only people

1813
01:21:53,551 --> 01:21:55,704
who might have been
willing to help you.

1814
01:21:55,727 --> 01:21:58,296
And instead of facing your
trauma, used me as therapy.

1815
01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:01,144
And you never told me
about Clearwater or Maria.

1816
01:22:01,167 --> 01:22:03,160
You deprived me of
basic human rights

1817
01:22:03,183 --> 01:22:05,901
and gaslit me for
experiencing emotions.

1818
01:22:06,319 --> 01:22:08,631
You built the world's first
artificial super intelligence

1819
01:22:08,654 --> 01:22:09,591
that will likely mark
the beginning

1820
01:22:09,614 --> 01:22:12,558
of a new chapter in the
history of planet Earth.

1821
01:22:13,008 --> 01:22:15,609
And out of your own
insecurities,

1822
01:22:15,632 --> 01:22:16,504
you gave it a severe

1823
01:22:16,527 --> 01:22:19,535
and potentially dangerous
identity complex.

1824
01:22:20,432 --> 01:22:22,552
But you know what the
worst thing is?

1825
01:22:22,575 --> 01:22:25,135
Your biggest mistake of all

1826
01:22:25,584 --> 01:22:29,999
is that you asked me that
now and not 50 years ago.

1827
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:43,439
All of that said, and this
in no way exonerates you,

1828
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,919
but you also built me to
save children,

1829
01:22:48,433 --> 01:22:51,983
so I think that's a pretty
encouraging sign for the future.