1 00:00:10,444 --> 00:00:12,344 Police are warning of a new toxic. 2 00:00:12,346 --> 00:00:14,980 Drug, a drug that can kill. Within. Seconds. 3 00:00:14,982 --> 00:00:18,417 Emergency rooms are seeing more overdoses than ever before. 4 00:00:18,652 --> 00:00:19,885 Do you know where it comes from? 5 00:00:19,887 --> 00:00:23,539 No. This is a new brand. 6 00:00:23,607 --> 00:00:26,075 They're searching rooftops and helicopters and abandoned 7 00:00:26,077 --> 00:00:29,311 Buildings on foot for people who may have taken the drug. 8 00:00:29,380 --> 00:00:31,714 I have never seen up to that point in my career. 9 00:00:31,716 --> 00:00:33,849 This type of crisis. 10 00:00:33,851 --> 00:00:39,071 The officials worried it is a new synthetic super drug. 11 00:00:39,173 --> 00:00:42,441 My analysis concluded that it was fentanyl. 12 00:00:42,476 --> 00:00:43,075 Fentanyl. 13 00:00:43,144 --> 00:00:46,478 Fentanyl. Fentanyl. Fentanyl. 14 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:50,215 So. Where's it coming from? 15 00:00:50,284 --> 00:00:54,603 47 year old george markert is the alleged kingpin. 16 00:00:54,688 --> 00:00:56,705 Marquart really. Was. 17 00:00:56,707 --> 00:00:59,308 A real life walter white. 18 00:00:59,310 --> 00:01:01,977 Just didn't seem like the type. 19 00:01:01,979 --> 00:01:05,347 He was the genius, the chemist, the mad scientist. 20 00:01:05,416 --> 00:01:09,084 He figured out a simple process to collect the united states 21 00:01:09,086 --> 00:01:10,753 With all the fentanyl. 22 00:01:10,755 --> 00:01:12,071 In the world. 23 00:01:12,073 --> 00:01:13,906 Fentanyl came onto the scene because. 24 00:01:13,908 --> 00:01:15,140 Of george marquart. 25 00:01:15,142 --> 00:01:15,974 It's scary. 26 00:01:16,377 --> 00:01:18,844 To think that something like that could happen right. Here. 27 00:01:18,846 --> 00:01:21,914 He never expressed remorse, never said he was sorry 28 00:01:21,916 --> 00:01:23,582 Because he wasn't. 29 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:27,503 If I did not know that every bit of it was true, 30 00:01:27,605 --> 00:01:31,406 I probably would not believe it myself. 31 00:01:31,509 --> 00:01:33,408 This is the true story 32 00:01:33,410 --> 00:01:37,746 Of the deadliest clandestine chemist in american history 33 00:01:37,815 --> 00:01:42,518 And the birth of this street fentanyl epidemic. 34 00:01:42,619 --> 00:01:47,573 Is told by the man who created it. 35 00:01:47,641 --> 00:01:48,774 Susan product. 36 00:01:48,776 --> 00:01:50,075 It was made. For. 37 00:01:50,077 --> 00:01:52,611 Killing people. 38 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:54,780 So you feel like you were able to successfully 39 00:01:54,782 --> 00:01:59,268 Pull that off for a long running? For 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,703 Many years. 41 00:02:01,705 --> 00:02:03,705 I'm john roberts. 42 00:02:03,707 --> 00:02:05,741 And this is 43 00:02:05,743 --> 00:02:22,941 The godfather of fentanyl. 44 00:02:23,010 --> 00:02:24,610 In 2014, 45 00:02:24,612 --> 00:02:27,579 George eric marquart, the criminal mastermind 46 00:02:27,581 --> 00:02:30,582 Responsible for unleashing street fentanyl, 47 00:02:30,584 --> 00:02:34,236 Agreed to a series of exclusive interviews with former oklahoma 48 00:02:34,238 --> 00:02:39,107 Bureau of narcotics agent john matier. 49 00:02:39,176 --> 00:02:41,109 I thought he was the most unique 50 00:02:41,111 --> 00:02:44,112 And interesting character ever in american crime. 51 00:02:44,215 --> 00:02:47,983 The guy just killed more people than all of the serial killers. 52 00:02:48,052 --> 00:02:55,774 You can name put together. 53 00:02:55,909 --> 00:02:59,611 Most of these interviews were recorded on audio cassette. 54 00:02:59,713 --> 00:03:01,813 Publishing and on. 55 00:03:01,916 --> 00:03:04,550 A few were recorded on video. 56 00:03:04,552 --> 00:03:08,937 Most people have never heard about this case. 57 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:11,106 All are being heard and seen 58 00:03:11,108 --> 00:03:14,810 Now for the first time. 59 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:30,576 So you want to hear some stories. 60 00:03:30,678 --> 00:03:31,677 I'm jenny. 61 00:03:31,679 --> 00:03:35,013 And I'm mary. 62 00:03:35,082 --> 00:03:35,614 Our brother's 63 00:03:35,749 --> 00:03:38,917 Name is george eric mccourt. 64 00:03:38,986 --> 00:03:41,803 We always called him eric because our father's name 65 00:03:41,805 --> 00:03:44,806 Was george. 66 00:03:45,042 --> 00:03:48,043 Growing up in waukesha, wisconsin, 67 00:03:48,178 --> 00:03:52,648 We were very traditional family, 68 00:03:52,750 --> 00:03:55,083 Just like tv shows about the fifties, 69 00:03:55,085 --> 00:03:56,652 You know, stay at home mom. 70 00:03:56,654 --> 00:04:00,105 Dad goes to work every day. 71 00:04:00,174 --> 00:04:03,675 We lived in a little house on the corner. 72 00:04:03,777 --> 00:04:10,749 Our grandparents lived next door. 73 00:04:10,851 --> 00:04:11,984 As a young child, 74 00:04:11,986 --> 00:04:16,004 He was adorable. 75 00:04:16,073 --> 00:04:19,308 He had really engaging eyes. 76 00:04:19,376 --> 00:04:21,410 Adults were always very drawn to him 77 00:04:21,412 --> 00:04:24,446 Because he was remarkably intelligent 78 00:04:24,481 --> 00:04:29,384 From an early age. 79 00:04:29,453 --> 00:04:32,437 He would put together electrical circuits. 80 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:36,275 He would work on the doorbell at our grandparents house. 81 00:04:36,343 --> 00:04:40,112 He was very, very curious. 82 00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:43,782 Sometime in the early grades, I started 83 00:04:43,884 --> 00:04:48,036 Fooling around with chemistry. 84 00:04:48,105 --> 00:04:50,706 I had several chemistry set ups. 85 00:04:50,708 --> 00:04:52,941 The big models was all of this. 86 00:04:52,943 --> 00:04:55,444 And that's. 87 00:04:55,446 --> 00:04:58,447 It was the most astonishing thing. 88 00:04:58,682 --> 00:05:03,218 All these processes were fascinating. 89 00:05:03,287 --> 00:05:05,003 His passion was chemistry. 90 00:05:05,005 --> 00:05:08,173 I mean, that was very clearly his passion. 91 00:05:08,275 --> 00:05:15,314 And so our parents, they always encouraged his curiosity. 92 00:05:15,416 --> 00:05:18,150 But we always knew eric was a little different. 93 00:05:18,152 --> 00:05:20,552 Everybody knew eric was a little different. 94 00:05:20,554 --> 00:05:21,703 Since he was so bright. 95 00:05:21,705 --> 00:05:22,938 They wanted him to 96 00:05:22,940 --> 00:05:25,340 Fit into their mold of what a bright kid should do. 97 00:05:25,342 --> 00:05:26,975 And yes, and he didn't want. 98 00:05:26,977 --> 00:05:29,111 To and he didn't want to. 99 00:05:29,113 --> 00:05:32,114 That's about it. 100 00:05:32,149 --> 00:05:35,317 The sociologists will tell us that the strongest 101 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:39,237 Predictor of whether someone is going to end up in prison 102 00:05:39,306 --> 00:05:43,108 Is how well they adapt in school. 103 00:05:43,177 --> 00:05:45,077 Interest in work for which learners 104 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:48,847 See a purpose provides its own discipline. 105 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:53,668 I wanted nothing to do with formal education. 106 00:05:53,771 --> 00:05:57,539 To me it was someone telling me how to think. 107 00:05:57,641 --> 00:06:08,517 I wanted no part of. 108 00:06:08,569 --> 00:06:11,069 When marquart is just 13 years old. 109 00:06:11,071 --> 00:06:13,739 A nearby university holds a lecture that will 110 00:06:13,741 --> 00:06:16,708 Change his life 111 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:22,247 And the course of history. One. 112 00:06:22,349 --> 00:06:23,248 It was dr. 113 00:06:23,250 --> 00:06:26,852 Oppenheimer of the manhattan project 114 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:33,375 That was open to anybody that could attend. 115 00:06:33,410 --> 00:06:37,612 We live in a very unusual world 116 00:06:37,714 --> 00:06:41,333 Marked by great and irreversible changes. 117 00:06:41,418 --> 00:06:46,538 One zero. 118 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,240 I was very deeply 119 00:06:48,242 --> 00:06:53,478 Impressed by his that. 120 00:06:53,564 --> 00:06:57,516 After the lecture he opens it up to questions 121 00:06:57,618 --> 00:07:02,704 And we ended up with quite a conversation going 122 00:07:02,773 --> 00:07:06,775 Turned into sitting in the back of a chemistry department at 123 00:07:06,844 --> 00:07:11,413 2:00 in the morning with julius robert fucking oppenheimer. 124 00:07:11,482 --> 00:07:12,481 That's a 125 00:07:12,483 --> 00:07:16,017 Conversation you don't forget. 126 00:07:16,086 --> 00:07:19,171 That night I decided whatever the decisions 127 00:07:19,173 --> 00:07:22,174 In my life, right or wrong, 128 00:07:22,276 --> 00:07:25,777 I'm going to make them myself. 129 00:07:25,846 --> 00:07:35,103 And was very determined to do so. 130 00:07:35,205 --> 00:07:36,972 When he got to high school, 131 00:07:36,974 --> 00:07:40,408 The school did not have the facilities or the expertise 132 00:07:40,410 --> 00:07:43,411 Sometimes to deal with the things he wanted to know. 133 00:07:43,647 --> 00:07:46,815 So they sent him to colleges in the area 134 00:07:46,817 --> 00:07:53,572 For some classes. 135 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,406 The professor 136 00:07:54,675 --> 00:07:57,642 Over atlas college took me over to the library 137 00:07:57,744 --> 00:07:58,710 And showed me 138 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:03,298 How to sonically search the literature of chemistry 139 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:07,302 The way a professional chemist does. 140 00:08:07,387 --> 00:08:09,204 That may have been the most important thing 141 00:08:09,206 --> 00:08:13,041 That ever happened to me. 142 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:14,376 There's a saying 143 00:08:14,378 --> 00:08:18,346 That seeking knowledge is like opening doors. 144 00:08:18,415 --> 00:08:21,983 There are many doors to choose from. 145 00:08:22,052 --> 00:08:23,251 And soon, 14 146 00:08:23,253 --> 00:08:26,238 Year old marquart will use his newfound knowledge 147 00:08:26,340 --> 00:08:35,380 To open an exceptionally dark one. 148 00:08:35,449 --> 00:08:36,615 Oddly, eric 149 00:08:36,683 --> 00:08:41,052 Had very unusual friendships with, like, our father's doctor. 150 00:08:41,071 --> 00:08:42,103 The doctor. 151 00:08:42,105 --> 00:08:45,507 One of his jobs was corner corner, 152 00:08:45,609 --> 00:08:50,011 And he had the key to rest haven. 153 00:08:50,113 --> 00:08:52,747 It's a giant building across the street from our house. 154 00:08:52,749 --> 00:08:54,449 Very, very close. 155 00:08:54,451 --> 00:08:59,638 At that time, it was abandoned. 156 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:01,473 What eric told me later 157 00:09:01,475 --> 00:09:06,945 Is that the doctor had him making heroin, using codeine. 158 00:09:06,947 --> 00:09:11,149 There was laying around in the morgue there. 159 00:09:11,251 --> 00:09:13,752 I mean, he was just a kid, 160 00:09:13,754 --> 00:09:15,403 14 years old, and somebody is taking 161 00:09:15,405 --> 00:09:19,441 Advantage of it and asking him to make heroin. 162 00:09:19,543 --> 00:09:24,746 At the time, I wasn't really familiar with heroin. 163 00:09:24,815 --> 00:09:27,249 I made it outside of the fact that I had a vague 164 00:09:27,251 --> 00:09:29,684 Awareness that people dealt themselves 165 00:09:29,686 --> 00:09:32,837 Some trouble with stuff like this. 166 00:09:32,940 --> 00:09:35,140 It may seem unbelievable, 167 00:09:35,142 --> 00:09:39,110 But there are some people who twist their minds on purpose 168 00:09:39,212 --> 00:09:42,581 With substances that are swallowed or smoked 169 00:09:42,683 --> 00:09:46,885 Or even injected into the bloodstream. 170 00:09:46,954 --> 00:09:50,939 Not a lot of fun making this stuff. 171 00:09:51,041 --> 00:09:53,908 When I was isolating with salt, 172 00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:56,478 I got quite euphoric. 173 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,381 A person who starts using heroin gets a pleasant feeling 174 00:09:59,383 --> 00:10:02,384 Of well-being for a while. 175 00:10:02,552 --> 00:10:04,753 I guess you could describe it as if you were going 176 00:10:04,755 --> 00:10:06,504 To feel this way all the time. 177 00:10:06,506 --> 00:10:08,974 You couldn't really be feeling quite good. 178 00:10:08,976 --> 00:10:14,145 I mean, it was no worries, no cares. 179 00:10:14,247 --> 00:10:16,648 I realize people that are addicted, 180 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:18,717 That was what they sought. 181 00:10:18,719 --> 00:10:20,835 And I took note of that. 182 00:10:20,837 --> 00:10:25,407 So, you know, I guess I'm doing things right. 183 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:27,075 Got a four year old or something 184 00:10:27,077 --> 00:10:31,546 Approaching three ounces and he kept it, 185 00:10:31,615 --> 00:10:33,648 Which I knew no one could. 186 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:36,318 So any such thing. 187 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,803 I didn't meet those people 188 00:10:38,805 --> 00:10:47,479 Until later. 189 00:10:47,547 --> 00:10:48,880 I think the reason he got into 190 00:10:48,882 --> 00:10:53,184 Making drugs was because he was asked to. 191 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:56,137 Eric was just basically flattered 192 00:10:56,139 --> 00:11:00,442 That this doctor thought he was bright enough to make him 193 00:11:00,444 --> 00:11:05,814 Illegal drugs. 194 00:11:05,882 --> 00:11:08,750 A few years later, they expelled him 195 00:11:08,752 --> 00:11:14,005 From high school for nonattendance at the. 196 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:17,075 My parents wanted me to work for her in the school 197 00:11:17,077 --> 00:11:19,277 And get very good grades and be a doctor 198 00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:20,945 Or a lawyer or an engine chief. 199 00:11:20,947 --> 00:11:23,415 And I wasn't interested. 200 00:11:23,417 --> 00:11:29,838 What a bad feeling generated. 201 00:11:29,906 --> 00:11:31,406 I started off 202 00:11:31,408 --> 00:11:36,144 All these illegal acts more and more 203 00:11:36,213 --> 00:11:39,814 And individualistic by nature, 204 00:11:39,883 --> 00:11:42,884 That individualism has become a dirty word 205 00:11:43,019 --> 00:11:47,138 Synonymous with sociopaths. 206 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,341 That leads to the thought, well, sociopath. 207 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:54,045 Oh, the impact of a sociopath will kill me. 208 00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:58,650 Or sociopath. 209 00:11:58,719 --> 00:11:59,651 He never 210 00:11:59,653 --> 00:12:00,735 Took drugs because it 211 00:12:00,737 --> 00:12:05,140 Disconnected him from his head and he kind of liked 212 00:12:05,175 --> 00:12:06,708 What was in his head. 213 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:08,143 But our parents never told us 214 00:12:08,145 --> 00:12:11,112 What was going on with him making drugs. 215 00:12:11,114 --> 00:12:14,115 Until one day some comment came up. 216 00:12:14,317 --> 00:12:17,585 And so at that point, mom had to tell us that 217 00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:21,740 He was in jail. 218 00:12:21,808 --> 00:12:26,945 April of 1965, that was my first arrest. 219 00:12:27,047 --> 00:12:30,014 I went to the university of wisconsin. 220 00:12:30,016 --> 00:12:32,383 I found chemistry part with stuff thrown 221 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:37,872 And rubbed it. 222 00:12:37,941 --> 00:12:40,875 More and more young people are using lsd. 223 00:12:40,877 --> 00:12:44,479 Lsd certainly has a solid foothold. 224 00:12:44,614 --> 00:12:45,880 As he got older, 225 00:12:45,882 --> 00:12:48,166 More people started asking about drugs 226 00:12:48,168 --> 00:12:49,684 Because they were college campuses 227 00:12:49,686 --> 00:12:51,369 And they were the sixties. 228 00:12:51,371 --> 00:12:54,906 Often disguised in innocent looking sugar cubes. 229 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:56,107 Lsd can be. 230 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,642 Made by anyone with a. 231 00:12:57,644 --> 00:13:00,111 Basic skill in chemistry. 232 00:13:00,113 --> 00:13:05,617 Or is all of us talking there or on lsd before that? 233 00:13:05,685 --> 00:13:07,685 Can you make all this stuff? 234 00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:10,638 I said, we are. 235 00:13:10,774 --> 00:13:12,474 And they were willing to pay 236 00:13:12,476 --> 00:13:15,443 Money for. 237 00:13:15,612 --> 00:13:17,779 He needed equipment to do that. 238 00:13:17,781 --> 00:13:23,518 And so he would pilfer glassware from here and there 239 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:25,937 At one of the smaller 240 00:13:25,939 --> 00:13:28,940 Colleges in milwaukee. 241 00:13:29,109 --> 00:13:32,377 He was giving science lectures to some classes. 242 00:13:32,479 --> 00:13:38,016 He was passing himself off as a government physicist 243 00:13:38,118 --> 00:13:42,237 As part of a scam to get glassware. 244 00:13:42,339 --> 00:13:44,539 I was one man, half academic, 245 00:13:44,541 --> 00:13:47,008 But that was the end of plundered 246 00:13:47,010 --> 00:13:49,911 Because it caught up with me and kept me in jail 247 00:13:49,913 --> 00:13:54,482 For a little while. 248 00:13:54,551 --> 00:13:58,203 The last time he was actually at home 249 00:13:58,205 --> 00:14:02,907 For any length of time was when we were 11 or 12. 250 00:14:02,976 --> 00:14:05,977 It was about 1970. 251 00:14:06,112 --> 00:14:08,646 I think mom always felt that 252 00:14:08,648 --> 00:14:18,439 We brought out the best in him because he was a good brother. 253 00:14:18,508 --> 00:14:20,141 But some of the stuff he got involved 254 00:14:20,143 --> 00:14:24,579 With was with dubious people. 255 00:14:24,648 --> 00:14:26,247 Our parents pretty much told him, 256 00:14:26,249 --> 00:14:32,470 You can't bring the drugs and that stuff around the girls. 257 00:14:32,572 --> 00:14:36,507 So there was tension between him and our parents. 258 00:14:36,576 --> 00:14:38,843 And at the end of that summer, 259 00:14:38,845 --> 00:14:42,213 We went east to a family wedding 260 00:14:42,282 --> 00:14:44,015 While we were gone. 261 00:14:44,017 --> 00:14:46,885 He stole daddy's car. 262 00:14:46,887 --> 00:14:52,140 He was about 23 years old, and he disappeared 263 00:14:52,242 --> 00:14:56,077 Into the night. 264 00:14:56,146 --> 00:14:59,030 He never talked to my parents again, ever. 265 00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:00,615 It broke their heart. It was hard. 266 00:15:00,617 --> 00:15:03,985 It was very, very hard. 267 00:15:04,054 --> 00:15:08,239 It was very hard. 268 00:15:08,341 --> 00:15:11,276 I saw no future for me there. 269 00:15:11,278 --> 00:15:14,279 I want to do an adventurous lifestyle 270 00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:16,364 And be freedom to pursue 271 00:15:16,366 --> 00:15:21,519 My own interests. 272 00:15:21,621 --> 00:15:25,290 I had this feeling that 273 00:15:25,342 --> 00:15:28,676 Times were changing, 274 00:15:28,778 --> 00:15:34,082 That I wanted to be a part of it. 275 00:15:34,184 --> 00:15:35,817 The 1960s are often 276 00:15:35,819 --> 00:15:42,206 Thought of as the drug era, 277 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:44,742 But actually it's the 1970s 278 00:15:44,744 --> 00:15:47,946 When drug use in the united states 279 00:15:48,014 --> 00:15:50,198 Explodes. 280 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,184 America's public enemy number one in 281 00:15:53,186 --> 00:15:56,170 The united states is drug abuse. 282 00:15:56,373 --> 00:15:58,906 We know and can show that there are many places 283 00:15:58,908 --> 00:16:02,110 Where drugs are openly sold heroin, speed, acid 284 00:16:02,245 --> 00:16:05,346 And a long list of commonly used uppers and downers 285 00:16:05,348 --> 00:16:06,514 Are readily available. 286 00:16:06,583 --> 00:16:09,283 Just as soon as you've agreed to buy a joint for a dollar, 287 00:16:09,285 --> 00:16:10,485 You can get immediate prices 288 00:16:10,487 --> 00:16:13,705 For the hard and often dangerous stuff. 289 00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:16,641 And so as experimentation with illicit drugs 290 00:16:16,643 --> 00:16:20,678 Becomes more mainstream, 291 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:22,880 George eric marquart 292 00:16:22,882 --> 00:16:26,451 Finds himself in the right place at the right time 293 00:16:26,453 --> 00:16:29,737 To capitalize on the nation's growing demand for drugs 294 00:16:29,806 --> 00:16:34,175 And propel himself into infamy. 295 00:16:34,244 --> 00:16:35,576 I had been working on 296 00:16:35,578 --> 00:16:39,447 Steven all over the country for a few years. 297 00:16:39,549 --> 00:16:42,550 But the lsd is a sporadic demand. 298 00:16:42,752 --> 00:16:47,405 There isn't a mass repeat usage. 299 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:51,576 I wanted something more reliable. 300 00:16:51,678 --> 00:16:52,944 A drug addict. 301 00:16:52,946 --> 00:16:57,799 He's got a constant need to have more 302 00:16:57,851 --> 00:17:01,686 Amphetamine and more opiate y. 303 00:17:01,888 --> 00:17:03,471 Lamb, lamb, lamb. 304 00:17:03,473 --> 00:17:06,474 They just want more and more and more and more. 305 00:17:06,643 --> 00:17:09,844 That creates a constant demand 306 00:17:09,946 --> 00:17:18,486 And lots of interest to me. 307 00:17:18,588 --> 00:17:20,438 In early 1975, 308 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:27,245 29 year old marquart arrives in oklahoma and. 309 00:17:27,313 --> 00:17:29,380 Got acquainted with the place 310 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:32,383 Just so I could live the style of life 311 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:39,774 That I wanted to and do what I wanted to do. 312 00:17:39,843 --> 00:17:41,776 My name is john madigan. 313 00:17:41,778 --> 00:17:44,278 I was a narcotics agent at the oklahoma bureau. 314 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,782 Narcotics 315 00:17:47,851 --> 00:17:51,986 Lp and was established in the summer of 1975 316 00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:56,808 To investigate any drug related crime anywhere in the state. 317 00:17:56,876 --> 00:17:59,877 It's funny because oklahoma is a socially conservative state. 318 00:17:59,879 --> 00:18:03,948 They call it the buckle of the bible belt. 319 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:07,318 But in the seventies, there was a lot of oil money. 320 00:18:07,353 --> 00:18:10,271 A lot of people came in chasing that money. 321 00:18:10,273 --> 00:18:12,974 This caused the problem with meth. 322 00:18:12,976 --> 00:18:16,544 The consumers of this stuff were mostly people 323 00:18:16,546 --> 00:18:18,513 Working in the oil fields, you know, 324 00:18:18,515 --> 00:18:20,314 And they went out there and they wanted to work 325 00:18:20,316 --> 00:18:22,650 16 hour days and make a lot of money. 326 00:18:22,652 --> 00:18:26,337 And carry all weekend. 327 00:18:26,372 --> 00:18:29,273 Methamphetamine was cheaper than coke. 328 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:31,742 So you had a lot of people that were buying it 329 00:18:31,744 --> 00:18:33,677 Because they wanted that kind of high, 330 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:37,765 But they were getting it from a cheaper product. 331 00:18:37,817 --> 00:18:39,217 At high dosages. 332 00:18:39,219 --> 00:18:42,603 We often see an amphetamine psychosis. 333 00:18:42,705 --> 00:18:50,878 This paranoia produces a great deal of violence. 334 00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:52,280 Drugs were 335 00:18:52,282 --> 00:18:56,217 Booming in oklahoma at that point in time, partly 336 00:18:56,219 --> 00:19:00,404 Because we're right in the middle of the country. 337 00:19:00,507 --> 00:19:02,974 Oklahoma sits at the intersection 338 00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:07,411 Of interstate 35 and interstate 40. 339 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,847 So there was a lot of traffic coming through 340 00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:15,236 And a lot of biker activity 341 00:19:15,338 --> 00:19:16,671 And a lot of the biker 342 00:19:16,673 --> 00:19:19,674 Gangs sold drugs. 343 00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:21,442 I'm elaine. God. 344 00:19:21,444 --> 00:19:27,448 I was the first bureau of narcotics female agent. 345 00:19:27,550 --> 00:19:28,749 At the time. 346 00:19:28,751 --> 00:19:33,004 I came to oklahoma city and stayed with a friend of mine 347 00:19:33,072 --> 00:19:37,341 Who had a friend that was very interested in meeting me. 348 00:19:37,443 --> 00:19:41,379 That was robert harris, who? 349 00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:44,248 Harris approached me about the possibility 350 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:49,337 Of making amphetamines, methamphetamine 351 00:19:49,439 --> 00:19:51,072 Labs, and I couldn't do 352 00:19:51,074 --> 00:19:54,041 Any kind of chemistry thing before. 353 00:19:54,277 --> 00:19:55,993 There are so many pagans. 354 00:19:55,995 --> 00:19:58,446 Motorcycle gang had the money. 355 00:19:58,448 --> 00:20:02,683 We were 50% partners, 356 00:20:02,752 --> 00:20:04,919 But we got that place over on north west. 357 00:20:04,921 --> 00:20:07,572 Fergus. 358 00:20:07,574 --> 00:20:13,177 Then I went to work. 359 00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:14,378 The whole operation 360 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:18,849 Was quite successful. 361 00:20:18,952 --> 00:20:21,936 I guess the people harris was selling to loved it, 362 00:20:22,071 --> 00:20:25,873 So I couldn't live a comfortable lifestyle. 363 00:20:25,942 --> 00:20:29,944 They all said I was the best. 364 00:20:30,013 --> 00:20:33,014 They would attract the stuff in coffee rangers. 365 00:20:33,182 --> 00:20:37,885 It was strictly white, and it looked just like coffee made. 366 00:20:37,987 --> 00:20:39,570 But I began to notice 367 00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:41,606 Harris would treat them in the house 368 00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:44,976 And go to the horror store, the finished product, and take 369 00:20:44,978 --> 00:20:48,646 So my way. 370 00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:52,617 Harris had severe drug problems, 371 00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:56,137 And you know how people like that are. 372 00:20:56,205 --> 00:21:00,808 They'll fuck you and they'll certainly quit 373 00:21:00,910 --> 00:21:01,809 Anyway. 374 00:21:02,011 --> 00:21:05,813 I took off as a lady for the weekend to have some fun 375 00:21:05,915 --> 00:21:07,448 And wanted to return. 376 00:21:07,450 --> 00:21:10,985 The laboratory had been cleaned out. 377 00:21:11,054 --> 00:21:14,405 All the equipment had been taken, 378 00:21:14,507 --> 00:21:15,339 Basically. 379 00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:17,608 Harris felt he had learned enough from me 380 00:21:17,610 --> 00:21:21,279 To run the operation by himself. 381 00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:24,048 Got ripped off. 382 00:21:24,050 --> 00:21:28,286 Somebody goes up to me and some fuckin food 383 00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:31,672 For one way or another, whether I have to work 384 00:21:31,674 --> 00:21:35,042 With the other side or whether I have a purpose and devil 385 00:21:35,144 --> 00:21:39,513 I I'm going to fuck the person. 386 00:21:39,582 --> 00:21:45,369 So I did what I did. 387 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:48,572 In the summer of 1975, jimmy birdsong 388 00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:52,443 Was one of the agents in the oklahoma city office. 389 00:21:52,512 --> 00:21:55,913 He got a call from well, he got a call from a guy 390 00:21:55,915 --> 00:21:57,381 He'd never heard of before, 391 00:21:57,383 --> 00:22:01,819 And the guy wanted to tell him about a methamphetamine lab. 392 00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:06,007 Turned out to be george eric marquart. 393 00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:07,942 We talked about this whole thing, 394 00:22:07,944 --> 00:22:11,912 And I'd given jimmy all the details of harris. 395 00:22:12,015 --> 00:22:15,649 I heard the conversation went something like, 396 00:22:15,685 --> 00:22:18,085 I can inform on a person that's making meth, 397 00:22:18,087 --> 00:22:20,604 But he's making bad meth, so I'd be glad to 398 00:22:20,606 --> 00:22:23,307 Give everything out on him. 399 00:22:23,376 --> 00:22:25,676 It was like hitting the jackpot. 400 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:30,314 And this is a call about a major drug lab in oklahoma city 401 00:22:30,416 --> 00:22:31,615 In boston. 402 00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:36,703 Harris cooking dope in his backyard. 403 00:22:36,739 --> 00:22:39,640 The bureau thought that was astonishing. 404 00:22:39,642 --> 00:22:48,249 Jimmy but it was like the truth. 405 00:22:48,317 --> 00:22:51,218 Mark hart's tip results in the largest clandestine 406 00:22:51,220 --> 00:22:55,272 Lab bust to date for the oklahoma bureau of narcotics 407 00:22:55,375 --> 00:22:58,209 And marks the beginning of his budding reputation 408 00:22:58,211 --> 00:23:02,413 As a notorious drug maker in his own right. 409 00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:04,148 I was a prosecutor 410 00:23:04,150 --> 00:23:07,151 Witness at the harris trial, 411 00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:12,373 And I gave some pretty spectacular testimony. 412 00:23:12,442 --> 00:23:14,442 It was unbelievable. 413 00:23:14,444 --> 00:23:17,311 He admitted all of his past 414 00:23:17,313 --> 00:23:21,382 Crimes, were pretty proud of it, actually, and bragged 415 00:23:21,384 --> 00:23:25,536 On how good a chemist he was and how crummy a chemist. 416 00:23:25,605 --> 00:23:30,808 Harris was made a very big impression on the jury. 417 00:23:30,877 --> 00:23:33,677 Harris got convicted, 418 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:38,349 Countless little laughs nailed on the wall. 419 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:40,785 As part of his agreement to testify. 420 00:23:40,787 --> 00:23:45,339 Marquart also agrees to a larger deal 421 00:23:45,408 --> 00:23:49,176 Immunity from any pending charges for past crimes 422 00:23:49,245 --> 00:23:54,115 So long as he continues to work as an informant. 423 00:23:54,217 --> 00:23:57,618 That's when I first met in person 424 00:23:57,687 --> 00:24:01,605 George eric marquart, 425 00:24:01,707 --> 00:24:02,072 When we met 426 00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:05,409 At the bureau in oklahoma city. 427 00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:08,245 First impression he wasn't like anybody 428 00:24:08,247 --> 00:24:11,916 That I'd ever run across before in the drug business. 429 00:24:12,017 --> 00:24:17,004 He was personable, friendly, real open. 430 00:24:17,106 --> 00:24:19,640 I remember I walked in and I said, 431 00:24:19,642 --> 00:24:24,211 George marquart, nobody calls me george mccord. 432 00:24:24,313 --> 00:24:28,415 If squeak, you motherfucker, are you? 433 00:24:28,484 --> 00:24:29,717 He doesn't look like a squeak. 434 00:24:29,719 --> 00:24:31,752 He's a big guy. 435 00:24:31,754 --> 00:24:32,703 Said it was a nickname 436 00:24:32,705 --> 00:24:34,805 That had been given to him by his grandmother 437 00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:38,576 When he was a little kid. 438 00:24:38,644 --> 00:24:40,911 He used to sign his letters 439 00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:43,714 With squeak, and he would draw a little mauser. 440 00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:46,684 Or I guess it was a squeak rat. 441 00:24:46,686 --> 00:24:49,670 But I never heard where it came from. 442 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:54,141 No, we never call them that. 443 00:24:54,243 --> 00:24:57,745 There was a wrist police to me that quite a lot. 444 00:24:57,847 --> 00:25:00,915 And I said, I don't mind law enforcement. 445 00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:02,449 That's the game. 446 00:25:02,451 --> 00:25:02,883 And that's 447 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:06,954 A game that should be played between serious players. 448 00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:10,074 He was definitely the smartest criminal I ever met 449 00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:13,911 In 35 years of law enforcement. 450 00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:16,981 This is a guy who never graduated from high school. 451 00:25:17,183 --> 00:25:19,817 One time I sat there for 3 hours 452 00:25:19,819 --> 00:25:22,803 And I didn't understand a word that guy said. 453 00:25:23,005 --> 00:25:25,873 We pro-family citizens will put our own values 454 00:25:25,875 --> 00:25:29,677 Or sign on in leading offensive cell phone systems or save 455 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:33,314 The lives of all 456 00:25:33,382 --> 00:25:33,981 Informants. 457 00:25:33,983 --> 00:25:35,849 Had to be a high caliber 458 00:25:35,851 --> 00:25:38,702 Or they weren't really worth having as an informant. 459 00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:41,071 It turned out that marquart knew more about chemistry 460 00:25:41,073 --> 00:25:44,542 Than trained chemist. 461 00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:46,810 Done some good stuff. 462 00:25:46,812 --> 00:25:49,613 People believed we were going to be making 463 00:25:49,615 --> 00:25:53,551 A lot of lab cases with the help of marquart. 464 00:25:53,586 --> 00:25:55,836 That was the promise. 465 00:25:55,838 --> 00:25:59,039 Of course, my objectives wasn't the same. 466 00:25:59,141 --> 00:26:01,408 I mean, people aren't what you think 467 00:26:01,410 --> 00:26:05,145 They are, right? 468 00:26:05,214 --> 00:26:09,216 He became a legend in oklahoma 469 00:26:09,218 --> 00:26:14,805 Among the people who worked the drug cases. 470 00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:17,441 But like any good con 471 00:26:17,443 --> 00:26:20,444 Man, mark park had spent a tail. 472 00:26:20,513 --> 00:26:22,646 And then you will have a point in time 473 00:26:22,648 --> 00:26:25,849 Where you realize you're being sucked in. 474 00:26:25,985 --> 00:26:28,602 Half the time I was 13, so 475 00:26:28,604 --> 00:26:30,604 And the other half of the time I was running in a 476 00:26:30,606 --> 00:26:33,474 Drug lab someplace. 477 00:26:33,542 --> 00:26:36,510 Oh, what a complicated life. 478 00:26:36,512 --> 00:26:39,280 It was kind of nerve racking. 479 00:26:39,282 --> 00:26:42,650 Then I realized I had to move. 480 00:26:42,752 --> 00:26:45,152 He just vanished. 481 00:26:45,154 --> 00:26:46,937 Just took off. 482 00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:49,440 He skipped out of town, and people 483 00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:52,443 Didn't know where he was. 484 00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:55,245 Everybody knew, though, that 485 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:58,716 Wherever he was, he was going to be making more drugs. 486 00:26:58,818 --> 00:27:05,306 That was what he did. 487 00:27:05,408 --> 00:27:09,109 Then went up to the pacific northwest. 488 00:27:09,178 --> 00:27:11,378 So now I was at large. 489 00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:14,048 I started laughing at last foot. 490 00:27:14,050 --> 00:27:15,849 You mean like I'm out here running around 491 00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:17,851 Like a western bad ass with a pistol? 492 00:27:17,853 --> 00:27:23,240 And then he said, yeah, okay. 493 00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:24,508 Anyway, 494 00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:30,280 And quite a lot of dope up in seattle. 495 00:27:30,349 --> 00:27:33,183 Within a month or two of him disappearing. 496 00:27:33,185 --> 00:27:36,103 Warren henderson, who was the agent up in tulsa, 497 00:27:36,105 --> 00:27:38,939 Was buying meth undercover from some guy 498 00:27:38,941 --> 00:27:41,975 Who said he was getting them from the pacific northwest, 499 00:27:42,178 --> 00:27:46,013 Supposedly from somebody named squeak. 500 00:27:46,082 --> 00:27:49,149 Warren realized they were dealing with me 501 00:27:49,385 --> 00:27:55,906 And proceeded to chase me. 502 00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:59,777 People were looking for him in seattle. 503 00:27:59,879 --> 00:28:02,780 I know several agents went up and look for him. 504 00:28:02,782 --> 00:28:05,349 Couldn't find him. 505 00:28:05,351 --> 00:28:07,951 By the time he found out where I live, 506 00:28:07,953 --> 00:28:11,555 I had bailed. 507 00:28:11,607 --> 00:28:12,973 But somehow or another, 508 00:28:12,975 --> 00:28:15,976 They followed me over to spokane. 509 00:28:16,112 --> 00:28:18,712 If you've seen breaking bad, he remembered how they started 510 00:28:18,714 --> 00:28:19,847 Off with an rv 511 00:28:19,849 --> 00:28:23,917 Moving around and cooking in different remote places. 512 00:28:23,986 --> 00:28:26,737 They started going to campgrounds and parks 513 00:28:26,739 --> 00:28:28,138 And make a voucher to. 514 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:32,376 And then he moved to another location. 515 00:28:32,445 --> 00:28:33,477 And rolled down 516 00:28:33,479 --> 00:28:36,480 The columbia river gorge, 517 00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:40,718 Making it all the various campgrounds. 518 00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:44,538 Marquart really was a real live 519 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:47,574 Walter white. 520 00:28:47,576 --> 00:28:48,909 That was probably on 521 00:28:48,911 --> 00:28:53,046 Top of my game is a hit and run drug manufacturer 522 00:28:53,115 --> 00:28:55,015 For old fuck where they started. 523 00:28:55,017 --> 00:28:56,683 You know. 524 00:28:56,685 --> 00:28:58,919 A lot of times they got really close. 525 00:28:58,921 --> 00:29:00,804 People say, yeah, we saw that guy, 526 00:29:00,806 --> 00:29:03,807 We smelled some weird stuff, 527 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:07,644 But he's gone. 528 00:29:07,713 --> 00:29:08,612 It wasn't a forever 529 00:29:08,614 --> 00:29:15,452 Fun way of making a living. 530 00:29:15,521 --> 00:29:17,504 The thrill of the chase. 531 00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:21,708 It's part of the fast side of every criminal 532 00:29:21,777 --> 00:29:25,579 And that's part of the allure as well. 533 00:29:25,648 --> 00:29:27,414 I'm larry harris. 534 00:29:27,416 --> 00:29:34,071 I was squeaky silly for two and a half years. 535 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:34,872 Anyone, 536 00:29:35,174 --> 00:29:39,342 No matter where they are in the pantheon of crime, 537 00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:42,646 That thrill of the chase, the thrill of being chased. 538 00:29:42,748 --> 00:29:44,848 That's all part of it. 539 00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:46,450 The only be the game is the game. 540 00:29:46,452 --> 00:29:51,171 And you just found the game so interesting. 541 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,441 Every time I got off another batch, I'd look up 542 00:29:54,443 --> 00:29:57,811 At the moon and the stars and it said for once more. 543 00:29:57,913 --> 00:30:03,984 Don't know. They feeding it. 544 00:30:04,086 --> 00:30:04,585 After a few 545 00:30:05,204 --> 00:30:07,571 Months, we actually obm said, you got to come home. 546 00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:08,906 The whole office is out. 547 00:30:08,908 --> 00:30:14,211 File on this guy and you're in the wrong state. 548 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,348 The reality is law enforcement can't spend endless time 549 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:23,303 And money chasing down one clandestine chemist. 550 00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:26,740 But sometimes even the most notorious criminals 551 00:30:26,809 --> 00:30:37,117 Can't help coming back to what they know. 552 00:30:37,186 --> 00:30:38,118 The agents 553 00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:43,073 Get back to the tulsa area, and lo and behold, 554 00:30:43,108 --> 00:30:46,243 Warren henderson was watching a payphone 555 00:30:46,378 --> 00:30:49,079 And just happened to see george eric marquart 556 00:30:49,081 --> 00:30:55,786 Get on the telephone. 557 00:30:55,855 --> 00:30:56,837 Probably not 558 00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,840 A real good thing to do in retrospect, 559 00:31:00,008 --> 00:31:02,442 But I had some customers in that area 560 00:31:02,444 --> 00:31:06,747 And I needed to make some money. 561 00:31:06,882 --> 00:31:09,616 Henderson just waited for him to get back in his truck 562 00:31:09,618 --> 00:31:20,477 And then followed him south down to a little town called beggs. 563 00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:23,480 Beggs is about 25 miles south of tulsa. 564 00:31:23,482 --> 00:31:28,018 It's about 1100 people. 565 00:31:28,087 --> 00:31:29,603 It was a place you could drive by 566 00:31:29,605 --> 00:31:33,040 And not paying attention to it all. 567 00:31:33,108 --> 00:31:36,042 It's just a very typical 568 00:31:36,044 --> 00:31:42,082 Oklahoma town. 569 00:31:42,184 --> 00:31:42,950 And I was going 570 00:31:42,952 --> 00:31:46,136 To make £20 of meth 571 00:31:46,138 --> 00:31:51,375 Over a period of several weeks 572 00:31:51,476 --> 00:31:59,850 And clean the operation up. 573 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:02,352 So they followed him down to a house 574 00:32:02,354 --> 00:32:07,774 That was set back about 100 yards from the road. 575 00:32:07,843 --> 00:32:11,144 If you were to drive by that house, you would believe 576 00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:15,983 It was just any good okie living their life. 577 00:32:16,051 --> 00:32:18,085 But knowing marquart, 578 00:32:18,087 --> 00:32:22,306 You knew there had to be a lab. 579 00:32:22,374 --> 00:32:24,207 The agents now have the possibility 580 00:32:24,209 --> 00:32:28,879 Of busting marquart in the act of drug manufacturing, 581 00:32:28,948 --> 00:32:33,283 A crime that will carry a much heftier penalty. 582 00:32:33,402 --> 00:32:36,303 So we set up surveillance 583 00:32:36,305 --> 00:32:44,678 To be watching the house 24 seven. 584 00:32:44,747 --> 00:32:45,479 The smell 585 00:32:45,948 --> 00:32:47,948 Is the first thing it hits you when you go in a meth lab. 586 00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:48,649 And that's why 587 00:32:49,218 --> 00:32:52,436 Most of the labs back in those days were out in rural areas. 588 00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:55,272 The main chemical used for cooking meth 589 00:32:55,274 --> 00:32:58,709 Was something called similar acetic acid. 590 00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:03,580 It is one of the worst smelling things you'll ever encounter. 591 00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:06,500 We were trying to figure out if somebody is cooking meth. 592 00:33:06,502 --> 00:33:09,987 You could always get a whiff of that. 593 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,673 The agents decide to send two undercovers 594 00:33:12,675 --> 00:33:31,058 Up to the house to see if they can smell the chemicals. 595 00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:33,410 And they were going to say they had car trouble and could. 596 00:33:33,412 --> 00:33:35,912 Could they use the phone? 597 00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:37,814 The two agents they picked were lonnie 598 00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:44,037 Wright and lane dodd. 599 00:33:44,139 --> 00:33:46,139 When we walked up to the 600 00:33:46,141 --> 00:33:51,878 House, it was exhilarating. 601 00:33:51,914 --> 00:33:53,847 I knew I was going to get to 602 00:33:53,849 --> 00:33:59,636 Be a part of this major case and I was going get to meet 603 00:33:59,671 --> 00:34:03,040 The person that I'd been hearing about all this time. 604 00:34:03,108 --> 00:34:12,849 The infamous marquart. 605 00:34:12,951 --> 00:34:14,284 Young lady 606 00:34:14,286 --> 00:34:17,871 And her associate came to the door. 607 00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:19,539 They needed to make a phone call. 608 00:34:19,541 --> 00:34:23,276 Could they use my telephone? 609 00:34:23,411 --> 00:34:25,078 He said, no. 610 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,014 And we said, what's going on? 611 00:34:28,016 --> 00:34:30,183 I apologized to them profusely. 612 00:34:30,185 --> 00:34:32,402 I would like to let them use my phone. 613 00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:36,306 But unfortunately, I was doing something colby related. 614 00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:38,275 It smelled bad. 615 00:34:38,277 --> 00:34:42,846 You could smell the drugs from the porch without question. 616 00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:45,348 He did not let us in, 617 00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:56,810 But it was clearly enough to get a warrant. 618 00:34:56,912 --> 00:35:01,248 The following morning, 619 00:35:01,283 --> 00:35:06,586 First thing, 620 00:35:06,655 --> 00:35:07,737 They went to execute 621 00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:14,077 The search warrant, 622 00:35:14,179 --> 00:35:19,082 Got there and knocked and he answered the door. 623 00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:22,152 He shows up at the door with a gas mask on 624 00:35:22,187 --> 00:35:26,506 And pulls his gas mask back. 625 00:35:26,575 --> 00:35:27,641 And he says, well, come on in. 626 00:35:27,643 --> 00:35:29,943 You guys caught me red headed. 627 00:35:29,945 --> 00:35:31,711 I'll show you how the lab is working 628 00:35:31,713 --> 00:35:37,584 And I'll turn. It off for you. 629 00:35:37,653 --> 00:35:39,619 He had the attitude 630 00:35:39,621 --> 00:35:42,606 That it was, in a way, a game, 631 00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:47,077 And he took us through proudly showing what was going on. 632 00:35:47,179 --> 00:35:50,981 Basically, I gave them a guided tour of, well, this is this. 633 00:35:51,049 --> 00:35:55,452 And this was that wasn't really showing off the process 634 00:35:55,454 --> 00:35:56,469 Or anything like that. 635 00:35:56,471 --> 00:35:58,104 I just didn't want any of the people 636 00:35:58,106 --> 00:36:01,608 Handling this stuff to be injured. 637 00:36:01,677 --> 00:36:03,977 To see the home 638 00:36:03,979 --> 00:36:06,980 Decked out just like a chemistry lab 639 00:36:07,115 --> 00:36:12,686 Was extraordinary. 640 00:36:12,788 --> 00:36:20,544 I was totally amazed by what we saw. 641 00:36:20,612 --> 00:36:23,246 Very few people have as many projects going on. 642 00:36:23,248 --> 00:36:27,117 It just doesn't happen with most chemists. 643 00:36:27,186 --> 00:36:30,470 He had one room where he was making them amphetamine 644 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:33,974 And in the second room he was making two, four, five 645 00:36:33,976 --> 00:36:37,544 Try meth, oxy, amphetamine. 646 00:36:37,613 --> 00:36:39,779 You said that the effects were very similar 647 00:36:39,781 --> 00:36:45,652 To methamphetamine, plus lsd. 648 00:36:45,754 --> 00:36:47,971 He was a real chemist. 649 00:36:47,973 --> 00:36:49,873 I just did one thing and one thing only, 650 00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:51,708 And it was fairly straightforward. 651 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:56,980 Whereas he was always looking for new challenges, 652 00:36:57,082 --> 00:37:03,536 How to make things that had never been made before. 653 00:37:03,605 --> 00:37:06,039 The discovery of the bags lab marks a chilling 654 00:37:06,041 --> 00:37:09,476 Turning point in mccourt's illegal drug banking career. 655 00:37:09,544 --> 00:37:13,013 It is here that agents discover marquart has been 656 00:37:13,015 --> 00:37:14,981 Secretly experimenting with creating 657 00:37:14,983 --> 00:37:20,170 Totally new and powerful drugs, a pursuit he will later achieve 658 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:35,819 With devastating results. 659 00:37:35,887 --> 00:37:38,071 After he was arrested, 660 00:37:38,073 --> 00:37:40,974 He was transported to muskogee, which is where the federal 661 00:37:40,976 --> 00:37:46,913 Court is, and eastern district of oklahoma. 662 00:37:47,015 --> 00:37:50,016 Interview take one more. 663 00:37:50,152 --> 00:37:51,851 My name is john osgood. 664 00:37:51,853 --> 00:37:53,370 In 1978. 665 00:37:53,372 --> 00:37:57,274 I was an assistant united states attorney for the oklahoma 666 00:37:57,276 --> 00:37:58,508 Bureau of narcotics. 667 00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:00,410 Came to me with the case involving mr. 668 00:38:00,412 --> 00:38:03,413 Marquart. 669 00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:06,383 He ended up pleading guilty fairly quickly, 670 00:38:06,385 --> 00:38:09,836 Which is unusual in a case like this. 671 00:38:09,921 --> 00:38:12,205 When you plead guilty, there is no trial. 672 00:38:12,207 --> 00:38:13,723 You just give a factual basis 673 00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:17,610 For the crime and then the judge would impose a sentence. 674 00:38:17,713 --> 00:38:19,179 At the time that mr. 675 00:38:19,181 --> 00:38:21,114 Mccourt was sentenced. 676 00:38:21,116 --> 00:38:23,983 I had felt I got to know him a little. 677 00:38:23,985 --> 00:38:25,568 Just from our interaction, 678 00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:27,070 I kind of felt sorry for the guy. 679 00:38:27,072 --> 00:38:28,805 I mean, he was the mad scientist, 680 00:38:28,807 --> 00:38:31,708 So to speak, or the genius, the chemist. 681 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:35,245 And I didn't think he 682 00:38:35,314 --> 00:38:38,264 Was that big of a threat. 683 00:38:38,266 --> 00:38:40,817 So I tried to tell him, maybe you ought to show 684 00:38:40,819 --> 00:38:42,252 A little contrition. 685 00:38:42,254 --> 00:38:48,174 Go in there and behave yourself, and maybe you'll do okay. 686 00:38:48,210 --> 00:38:51,544 And he didn't take my advice. 687 00:38:51,613 --> 00:38:53,380 I went to court and went down there 688 00:38:53,382 --> 00:38:56,916 And told him I'd do it again. 689 00:38:56,985 --> 00:38:59,302 He just told the judge he was a drug dealer. 690 00:38:59,304 --> 00:39:00,203 He liked what he did. 691 00:39:00,205 --> 00:39:01,905 He thought he was good at what he did 692 00:39:01,907 --> 00:39:05,875 And he would continue to do it probably when he got out. 693 00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:08,878 And told agents and court, I will start up 694 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,113 Another operation 695 00:39:10,115 --> 00:39:13,149 And I can have a good time and make lots of drugs 696 00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:18,304 And you can come down and chase me around. 697 00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:20,173 He made no bones about the fact that 698 00:39:20,175 --> 00:39:25,412 As soon as he got out of there, he was going to do it again. 699 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,280 And he was the first one that ever made 700 00:39:27,282 --> 00:39:30,583 That kind of performance in the courtroom. 701 00:39:30,685 --> 00:39:33,269 I was just I was shocked. 702 00:39:33,271 --> 00:39:38,108 Judge morris gave him ten years, strongest ends he could get. 703 00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:41,478 And that began the rest of his story. 704 00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:46,549 This thing was fought before it turned wicked. 705 00:39:46,651 --> 00:39:49,619 That book. 706 00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:53,206 As a result of the biggs bust, george eric marquart is sent 707 00:39:53,208 --> 00:39:57,177 To federal prison in a dark and ironic twist of fate. 708 00:39:57,279 --> 00:40:00,280 This will propel him down the road to becoming 709 00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:07,637 The godfather of fentanyl. 710 00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:11,174 And getting shipped to australia. 711 00:40:11,276 --> 00:40:12,709 And I know it doesn't have 712 00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:16,413 A particularly nice reputation. 713 00:40:16,481 --> 00:40:18,047 It's a very bad place. 714 00:40:18,049 --> 00:40:20,417 It ships after 715 00:40:20,419 --> 00:40:23,703 Shifter that punched a hole 716 00:40:23,772 --> 00:40:27,640 A couple of days in isolation. 717 00:40:27,709 --> 00:40:29,776 And you had nothing, 718 00:40:29,778 --> 00:40:36,149 No blankets, no sheet, no mattress, nothing. 719 00:40:36,251 --> 00:40:43,089 So don't fuck up. 720 00:40:43,141 --> 00:40:45,608 At the time, most top level mobsters 721 00:40:45,610 --> 00:40:51,848 From east coast crime families are sent to lewisburg. 722 00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:54,017 Guys like john gotti, boss of new york's 723 00:40:54,019 --> 00:40:57,337 Gambino family, and henry hill, the gangster 724 00:40:57,339 --> 00:40:59,405 Who inspired the movie goodfellas. 725 00:40:59,407 --> 00:41:03,810 Both served time here. 726 00:41:03,912 --> 00:41:04,644 Mafiosi 727 00:41:04,846 --> 00:41:07,664 Are all housed in an area called j block. 728 00:41:07,749 --> 00:41:10,984 This is the block where marquart is also assigned, 729 00:41:11,086 --> 00:41:14,304 Meaning he is now surrounded by some of the most powerful 730 00:41:14,306 --> 00:41:17,307 Drug trafficking kingpins in the country. 731 00:41:17,509 --> 00:41:20,376 The very people who will look to capitalize 732 00:41:20,378 --> 00:41:27,550 On his unique expertise. 733 00:41:27,619 --> 00:41:33,139 Of the gangster show. 734 00:41:33,175 --> 00:41:34,507 You know, because john flows 735 00:41:34,509 --> 00:41:37,510 Like that, you're looking for a good conversation. 736 00:41:37,646 --> 00:41:39,646 You know, 737 00:41:39,648 --> 00:41:44,284 And I find for a good conversation, 738 00:41:44,369 --> 00:41:50,340 Notorious criminals. 739 00:41:50,408 --> 00:41:53,409 Prison is an interesting experience. 740 00:41:53,545 --> 00:41:57,080 Some people go to prison and do their time and get out and 741 00:41:57,148 --> 00:41:59,449 Behave themselves. 742 00:41:59,518 --> 00:42:02,685 But some people spend a substantial amount of time 743 00:42:02,687 --> 00:42:04,571 Discussing how to do more crime, 744 00:42:04,573 --> 00:42:06,639 Better crime, and supposedly crime. 745 00:42:06,641 --> 00:42:07,574 They're not going to get caught 746 00:42:07,675 --> 00:42:10,577 Committing the next time when they're outside. 747 00:42:10,745 --> 00:42:13,646 So mark, court was probably somewhat 748 00:42:13,648 --> 00:42:17,951 Of a minor celebrity in prison because of the mystique 749 00:42:17,953 --> 00:42:22,138 Surrounding his operation in oklahoma. 750 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,208 They will find out what you are there for them. 751 00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:27,243 That's just the nature prison. 752 00:42:27,245 --> 00:42:30,046 You know, I was a representative 753 00:42:30,048 --> 00:42:34,651 Of a relatively new and novel type of criminal. 754 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,539 So I was well known in the prison population. 755 00:42:39,641 --> 00:42:43,843 Everybody knew he was the real deal and better at what he did. 756 00:42:43,845 --> 00:42:47,046 And most of the other people who were forced 757 00:42:47,082 --> 00:42:54,003 A good fight and lost. 758 00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:57,073 Like a serial killer lived next door to me 759 00:42:57,175 --> 00:42:59,842 Because the next step was like, everyone train. 760 00:42:59,844 --> 00:43:05,648 He was one bad motherfucker. 761 00:43:05,784 --> 00:43:06,983 He would simply kill the 762 00:43:06,985 --> 00:43:10,837 People that he believed was. 763 00:43:10,905 --> 00:43:13,273 Another major figure in the running that ran heroin 764 00:43:13,275 --> 00:43:15,308 Between France and new york and was stabbed to death 765 00:43:15,310 --> 00:43:18,111 Last night, just hours before a team of federal prison 766 00:43:18,113 --> 00:43:21,998 Officials arrived to conduct an investigation. 767 00:43:22,050 --> 00:43:24,851 So you knew that he had the capacity 768 00:43:24,853 --> 00:43:28,037 To be particularly vicious. 769 00:43:28,106 --> 00:43:29,973 But I found her on the train 770 00:43:29,975 --> 00:43:41,784 Rather restrained. 771 00:43:41,853 --> 00:43:43,970 One day, 772 00:43:43,972 --> 00:43:48,441 Louis siravo took me down his show. 773 00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:50,310 He was all very fascinated 774 00:43:50,312 --> 00:43:53,746 By these new drugs, but couldn't replace the u.S. 775 00:43:53,748 --> 00:43:57,717 Supplying cheryl 776 00:43:57,819 --> 00:44:01,737 And funny. 777 00:44:01,773 --> 00:44:03,873 Then he said, I've got an article. 778 00:44:03,875 --> 00:44:05,942 I want you to 779 00:44:05,944 --> 00:44:10,713 Look at this drug. 780 00:44:10,782 --> 00:44:13,349 And it was the first time 781 00:44:13,351 --> 00:44:17,770 I ever heard the name churchill 782 00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:21,307 Bullshit. 783 00:44:21,376 --> 00:44:26,512 This is going to be an interesting. 784 00:44:26,581 --> 00:44:27,313 Coming up 785 00:44:27,315 --> 00:44:31,017 On the godfather of fentanyl. 786 00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:32,535 George eric marquart 787 00:44:32,537 --> 00:44:34,737 Makes a discovery that will make the mass 788 00:44:34,739 --> 00:44:37,206 Production of street fentanyl possible. 789 00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:40,910 For the first time ever. 790 00:44:40,979 --> 00:44:43,346 Suddenly there was a heavy smoke 791 00:44:43,348 --> 00:44:46,249 Pouring from not as a flash, 792 00:44:46,251 --> 00:44:50,303 And I held it up to the light and I could just get 793 00:44:50,305 --> 00:44:53,306 A glimpse of crystals, pure 794 00:44:53,541 --> 00:44:56,142 Crystals. 795 00:44:56,144 --> 00:44:57,777 And law enforcement is about 796 00:44:57,779 --> 00:45:01,547 To find themselves in a race against the clock to stop it. 797 00:45:01,616 --> 00:45:02,915 We're going to start fucking 798 00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:06,753 Blanketing the east coast with fentanyl. 799 00:45:06,838 --> 00:47:13,896 Here we go.