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EVA HESSE: <i>Yo'q
hayotimdagi bir oddiy narsa.</i>

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<i>Bir emas.</i>

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<i>San'at - bu eng oson narsa.</i>

4
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<i>Bu degani emas
Men uning ustida oz ishlaganman,</i>

5
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<i>lekin bu yagona narsa
Men hech qachon kerak emas edi.</i>

6
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Ulardan biri Eva Hesse edi
20-asrning eng buyuk rassomlari.

7
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Uning fikri san'at yaratish edi

8
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bu chegarada edi
nazoratsizlikdan.

9
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<i>Bu ko'rmagan odam edi
oddiygina kichik hajmdagi ishlarni amalga oshirdi,</i>

10
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<i>lekin bunga qodir bo'lgan kishi
haqiqatda muhim bayonotlar qilish.</i>

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HESSE: <i>Menda eng ko'p narsa bor
mening san'atim haqida ochiqlik.</i>

12
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<i>Men chindan ham tayyorman,
chetida yurmoq.</i>

13
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<i>Agar men bunga erishmagan bo'lsam,
o'sha yerga bormoqchiman.</i>

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Uning sezgirligi ajoyib edi.
Va siz uning ovozida taranglikni his qilishingiz mumkin edi

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u o'z ishi haqida gapirganda.

16
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HESSE: <i>Men juda yaqinlashaman,</i>

17
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<i>keyin o'zgartiring,</i>

18
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<i>yo'q qilish.</i>

19
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<i>Men o'zimga ishonmayman...</i>

20
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<i>Bugun rasm chizish yomon ketdi...</i>

21
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<i>Birini tugatish uchun
va erga turing.</i>

22
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<i>Bu menman.</i>

23
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<i>Men shuni aytmoqchiman.</i>

24
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Eva hayoti va uning san'ati, albatta, birlashdi.

25
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U shunchaki materiallarni manipulyatsiya qilmadi,

26
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u materiallar edi.

27
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Bularning barchasi uning uchun bir vaqtning o'zida birlashdi.

28
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Va u bilan yugurdi.

29
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HESSE: <i>Bir kun,
hammasi bir-biriga mos tushadi,</i>

30
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<i>va men o'zimni qobiliyatli his qilaman
u erda bo'lish va tayyor bo'lish.</i>

31
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<i>Bularning barchasi foydali bo'ladi
Men undan nimaga erishdim.</i>

32
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(JAZZ MUSIQASI ISHLASH)

33
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HESSE: <i>Men yozuvchi emasman.</i>

34
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<i>Yo'q, deyishingiz mumkin,</i>

35
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<i>Shunchalik da'vogar bo'lishi kerak
fikrlarimni yozish uchun.</i>

36
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Hech kimning avtobiografik eskizi.

37
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<i>Bu bir kishining hikoyasi,
tashqaridan,</i>

38
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<i>juda chiroyli rasmni ochib beradi.</i>

39
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<i>Chiroyli yuz,</i>

40
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<i>chiroyli tana,</i>

41
00:03:06,419 --> 00:03:08,330
<i>chiroyli libos.</i>

42
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<i>Biroq, shaxs
ichida go'zal his qilmaydi.</i>

43
00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:15,967
<i>Men buni his qildim
hayotimning ko'p qismi,</i>

44
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<i>turli, yolg'iz,
va boshqalardan tashqari.</i>

45
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<i>Murakkablashtirish uchun
masala ba'zi,</i>

46
00:03:22,769 --> 00:03:26,979
<i>so'nggi yillarda men ko'rsatdim va
rassom sifatida iste'dodlar rivojlangan,</i>

47
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<i>yaxshisi.</i>

48
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<i>Bu mening tuyg'ularimda edi
begona va turli</i>

49
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<i>buni men da'vo qila olaman
rassom unvoni?</i>

50
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<i>Men nimani qabul qildim
javob sifatida</i>

51
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<i>bu haqiqiy rassom
ham paradoksal</i>dir

52
00:03:42,188 --> 00:03:43,758
<i>haqiqiy shaxsiy nomuvofiqlik.</i>

53
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Eva, albatta, otamning sevimlisi edi.

54
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Chunki emas...

55
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Faqat, chunki u, menimcha,
u yanada zaifroq ekanini his qildi.

56
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<i>Men kattasi edim
va men ko'proq tushundim.</i>

57
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<i>Lekin men shunday deb o'ylayman
u juda asossiz edi.</i>

58
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Eva kuchli edi.

59
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<i>Bo'lgan vaqtlar bo'lgan
u o'zini nochor his qildi.</i>

60
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<i>Lekin uning jasorati bor edi
boshidanoq.</i>

61
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HESSE: <i>16 yoshimda,
Men Pratt institutiga bordim.</i>

62
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<i>Va bu menga unchalik yoqmadi.</i>

63
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<i>Rassomlik darsini boshlaganingizda,</i>

64
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<i>siz qilish kerak edi
limonli natyurmort.</i>

65
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<i>Va keyin siz o'qishni tugatdingiz
limon va non natyurmort.</i>

66
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<i>Va keyin siz limonni tugatdingiz,
non va tuxum natyurmort.</i>

67
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<i>Bu mening rasm chizish fikrim emas edi.</i>

68
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<i>Men As olguncha kutdim
Cs o'rniga,</i>

69
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<i>va ishdan ketayotganimni e'lon qildim.</i>

70
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<i>Men bunday emasligini bilishim kerak edi
chunki ishim yaxshi emas edi.</i>

71
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<i>Shunday qilib, uyga qaytishim kerak edi.</i>

72
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<i>U erga borishim bilanoq,
o‘gay onam: “Ish toping”</i>dedi

73
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<i>Xo'sh, 16-yarimta qayerga borasiz,</i>

74
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<i>juda kam bilish
va san'atga qiziqish bormi?</i>

75
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<i>Men o'zimni oldim</i>
Seventeen jurnali.

76
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<i>Va g'alati sabablarga ko'ra,</i>

77
00:05:08,074 --> 00:05:09,985
<i>ular meni ishga olishdi.</i>

78
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<i>Menimcha, bu shunchaki, chunki
u yerga kelishning o't-o'zidan.</i>

79
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Uning tajribasi bor edi
ayollar jurnalida ishlaydi

80
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va u buni qilganini aytdi
uning uchun katta farq,

81
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bu unga ishonch bag'ishladi.

82
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Va u o'z ishining bir qismini oldi
dunyoga.

83
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HESSE: <i>Men yilning o'rtasini oldim
Cooper Union uchun sinov,</i>

84
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<i>va bu men tuzgan yagona reja edi.</i>

85
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<i>Men buni amalga oshirishim kerak edi.</i>

86
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<i>Men kirdim.</i>

87
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<i>Va keyingi sentyabrda,
Men Cooper Unionga bordim,</i>

88
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<i>bu men boshidanoq sevardim.</i>

89
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Eva, albatta, xabardor edi
u rassom bo'lishni xohlagan.

90
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Ammo otam buni qabul qila olmadi.

91
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UİLYAM GESSE:
<i>Hurmatli Evachen,</i>

92
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<i>siz har doim juda muvaffaqiyatli bo'lgansiz
qilgan barcha ishlaringizda.</i>

93
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<i>Lekin rasm chizish va o'qish
yoqimli ishlardir.</i>

94
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<i>Oyoqqa turish uchun,</i>

95
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<i>siz o'zingiz his qilgan narsalarni qilishingiz kerak
bugungi kun unchalik yoqimli emas.</i>

96
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<i>Va agar odamning ishi bo'lsa
yoki tirikchilik qiladi,</i>

97
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<i>bu nimadir
qoniqish ham beradi.</i>

98
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HESSE: <i>Dada, men qilmoqchiman
mavjud emas, balki ko'proq,</i>

99
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<i>baxtli va baxtli yashash
uy, bolalar,</i>bilan

100
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<i>bir xil ishlarni bajarish uchun
har kuni.</i>

101
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<i>Men rassomman.</i>

102
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<i>Men tajriba qilishni xohlayman
hayot taklif qiladigan hamma narsa.</i>

103
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<i>Va buni o'zim uchun qilishim kerak.</i>

104
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ROSI GOLDMAN:
<i>Men Eva bilan 17 yoshida tanishdim.</i>

105
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Unda meni ko'proq nima qiziqtirdi

106
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uning qo'llari edi.

107
00:07:04,357 --> 00:07:06,530
<i>U qo'llari bilan gapirdi.</i>

108
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<i>Barcha hayotiylik unda
uning qo'llari orqali keldi.</i>

109
00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,278
<i>Biz juda katta pul sarfladik
birga vaqt miqdori.</i>

110
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<i>Va shunday bo'ldi
juda yaqin do'stlik.</i>

111
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HESSE: <i>Aziz Rozi,</i>

112
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<i>Men siz va men orzu qilganman
kitob</i>da hamkorlik qilgan

113
00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:29,359
<i>Biz butun o'tmishimiz haqida gaplashgan joy,</i>

114
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<i>juda halol, hech narsa yashirin emas.</i>

115
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<i>To'liq qism.</i>

116
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GOLDMAN: <i>U Jeyn ko'chasida yashar edi.</i>

117
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<i>Uning kichkina xonasi bor edi
ulkan to'shak bilan.</i>

118
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<i>U bunda juda qulay edi</i>

119
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quti, deyarli, bir xona.

120
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Iloji boricha
uning san'ati bilan shug'ullaning, bu muhim emas edi.

121
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SYLVIA: <i>Biz ikkalamiz
Cooper Union va Yelga borgan.</i>

122
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Men undan ikki yosh kichik edim

123
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shuning uchun men uni kuzatdim.

124
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Menda shunday tuyg'u bor edi
u tomosha qiladigan odam edi.

125
00:08:08,654 --> 00:08:10,725
<i>U juda aqlli edi,</i>

126
00:08:10,756 --> 00:08:14,363
<i>so'zli va chiroyli odam</i>

127
00:08:15,528 --> 00:08:18,304
<i>kimga uni tinglashi kerak edi</i>

128
00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:21,938
<i>Shunday qilib, u hammasini chiqarib, ishlashi mumkin edi.</i>

129
00:08:23,669 --> 00:08:26,275
U Yelga borib, rasm chizishni o'rgandi,

130
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mashhur bilan, eng mashhuri
Jozef Albers bilan.

131
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HESSE: <i>Men Albers edim
kichik rang o'rganuvchi.</i>

132
00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:34,552
<i>Hamma meni doim shunday chaqirardi.</i>

133
00:08:34,580 --> 00:08:36,753
<i>Va u har safar yurganida
sinfga,</i>

134
00:08:36,782 --> 00:08:39,194
<i>u: "Eva nima qildi?"</i> deb so'rardi

135
00:08:45,892 --> 00:08:49,738
<i>Oxirgi ikki yil bo'lsa kerak
eng voqealarga boy ikkita,</i>

136
00:08:49,762 --> 00:08:52,743
<i>eng katta o'zgarishlar bilan
ichimda.</i>

137
00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:56,540
<i>Men rassom bo'ldim.</i>

138
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SUSSMAN: <i>U san'at maktabini tugatgan
50-yillarning oxirida</i>

139
00:09:00,106 --> 00:09:04,384
<i>va u Yeldan ketdi
1960 yilda Nyu-Yorkka.</i>

140
00:09:04,410 --> 00:09:05,821
<i>Kennedi saylangan edi.</i>

141
00:09:05,845 --> 00:09:08,587
<i>Bu haqiqatan ham edi
yangi davr tongi.</i>

142
00:09:10,483 --> 00:09:12,485
(Yaxshi musiqa ijro etish)

143
00:09:25,231 --> 00:09:26,938
HESSE:
<i>Men juda tez harakat qildim.</i>

144
00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:30,037
<i>Men o'zimni juda tirik his qilaman.</i>

145
00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:34,882
<i>Men har daqiqada juda xavotirdaman
va har bir kelajakdagi daqiqa.</i>

146
00:09:34,907 --> 00:09:39,720
Nyu-York shahrida rassom bo'lish
60-yillarda butunlay ajoyib edi.

147
00:09:49,855 --> 00:09:51,732
Bu ajoyib vaqt edi.

148
00:09:51,757 --> 00:09:55,398
Ishning deyarli barcha jabhalarida

149
00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:58,898
va musiqa, adabiyot, she'riyat,

150
00:09:58,931 --> 00:10:00,274
lekin ayniqsa rasmda

151
00:10:01,067 --> 00:10:02,740
hammasi ochilib ketdi.

152
00:10:02,768 --> 00:10:07,114
kabi tuyg'u bor edi
Biz rasm chizishni qaytadan ixtiro qildik.

153
00:10:08,841 --> 00:10:12,948
HESSE: <i>Men cheklovlardan voz kechaman
va o'zimga cheklov qo'yildi.</i>

154
00:10:12,979 --> 00:10:16,358
<i>Meni mendan mahrum qilaman
yuzaki insofsizliklar.</i>

155
00:10:16,382 --> 00:10:18,623
<i>Men har bir qoidaga qarshi chizaman.</i>

156
00:10:24,123 --> 00:10:25,932
Va siz tushunishingiz kerak
o'sha paytda,

157
00:10:25,958 --> 00:10:28,268
san'at olami yo'q edi.

158
00:10:28,294 --> 00:10:29,864
Ishlayotgan odamlar bor edi

159
00:10:29,895 --> 00:10:32,034
o'zlari va bir-birlari uchun.

160
00:10:32,064 --> 00:10:34,169
Va hech qanday mahsulot yo'q edi.

161
00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,271
Tovar ayirboshlash sodir bo'lmagan.

162
00:10:36,302 --> 00:10:40,045
San'at dunyosi bo'lmagan
kollektorlar tomonidan qabul qilingan.

163
00:10:40,072 --> 00:10:43,485
Hech kim qancha haqida o'ylamadi
ular ishlamoqchi bo'lgan pul.

164
00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:47,787
Bularning barchasi bag'ishlash edi
hayotingiz ishingizga.

165
00:10:47,813 --> 00:10:50,020
Men Eva ham shunday his qilganini bilaman.

166
00:10:53,419 --> 00:10:56,457
HESSE: <i>Faqat rasm chizish mumkin
endi meni ko'ring.</i>

167
00:10:56,489 --> 00:11:00,096
<i>Bu butunlay bir-biriga bog'liq
butun borlig'im bilan.</i>

168
00:11:00,126 --> 00:11:03,130
<i>Bu men topdim
Men o'zimni ifoda eta olaman.</i>

169
00:11:22,248 --> 00:11:24,319
SOL LEWITT:
<i>U Nyu-Yorkka keldi va men u bilan uchrashdim.</i>

170
00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:25,852
<i>U endigina Yeldan chiqqan edi.</i>

171
00:11:26,986 --> 00:11:29,398
<i>Eva juda chiroyli va yoqimli edi,</i>

172
00:11:29,422 --> 00:11:33,700
<i>juda tirik va hip, va ko'p narsani bilar edi
Yaleda bo'lganligi sababli odamlar.</i>

173
00:11:33,726 --> 00:11:37,333
<i>Men uning borligini tan oldim
uning ishida g'ayrioddiy narsa.</i>

174
00:11:39,732 --> 00:11:42,110
HESSE: <i>Men sotishni boshlayapman
va ishimni ko'rsating,</i>

175
00:11:42,134 --> 00:11:43,977
<i>shu tartibda.</i>

176
00:11:44,003 --> 00:11:46,916
<i>Bir kishi menga ishonch berdi
boshqasiga o'tish uchun.</i>

177
00:11:46,939 --> 00:11:49,442
<i>Xalqaro akvarel ko'rgazmasi
Bruklin muzeyi</i>da

178
00:11:49,475 --> 00:11:51,477
<i>va</i> 3 yosh amerikalik,

179
00:11:51,510 --> 00:11:53,080
<i>mening kechagi namoyishim.</i>

180
00:11:55,648 --> 00:11:58,857
<i>Bu to'liq bo'lishning boshlanishi
san'at olamining o'rtasida.</i>

181
00:12:16,669 --> 00:12:20,139
<i>Men Tom Doyl bilan birga bo'lganman
oxirgi uch kun.</i>

182
00:12:20,806 --> 00:12:23,218
<i>Men juda xursandman.</i>

183
00:12:23,242 --> 00:12:26,917
Bir ziyofat bo'lib o'tdi
bu do'stimning joyi.

184
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,917
Va men jangda edim.

185
00:12:29,949 --> 00:12:33,158
Bu yigit janjal qilardi
qiz do'stim bilan,

186
00:12:33,185 --> 00:12:34,459
shuning uchun men uni urdim.

187
00:12:34,487 --> 00:12:36,228
Eva ziyofatda edi

188
00:12:36,255 --> 00:12:40,203
va u meni oshxonaga olib bordi

189
00:12:40,226 --> 00:12:42,069
va yuzimni yuvdim,

190
00:12:42,094 --> 00:12:43,573
va u juda edi
Menga yaxshi, bilasizmi.

191
00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:45,735
Va shunday bo'ldi
u bilan birinchi marta uchrashganimda.

192
00:12:46,732 --> 00:12:49,076
GESSE: <i>Tom
go'zal inson</i>

193
00:12:49,101 --> 00:12:52,207
<i>va men zavqlanaman
uning barcha jihatlari.</i>

194
00:12:52,238 --> 00:12:55,981
<i>Bu haqiqiy, jonli
va chiroyli romantika.</i>

195
00:12:56,008 --> 00:13:00,218
Tom ajoyib, jonli, she'riy edi,
kulgili Irish mast o'sha nuqtada.

196
00:13:02,314 --> 00:13:04,021
GOLDMAN: <i>U edi
unga qarshi ogohlantirdi,</i>

197
00:13:04,049 --> 00:13:06,791
<i>u juda yirtqich olomondan chiqqan,</i>

198
00:13:06,819 --> 00:13:09,163
<i>u uchun haqiqatan ham yaxshi emas edi.</i>

199
00:13:09,188 --> 00:13:13,102
<i>Lekin u unga nimadir berdi
Bu unga juda kerak edi.</i>

200
00:13:14,393 --> 00:13:16,669
HESSE:
<i>Men u haqiqatan ham men bilan ekanligini his qilyapman</i>

201
00:13:16,695 --> 00:13:17,969
<i>va men u bilanman.</i>

202
00:13:19,098 --> 00:13:21,009
<i>Men buni hech qachon his qilmaganman.</i>

203
00:13:22,101 --> 00:13:26,572
O'sha yoz, Eva va Tom
borishga taklif qildi

204
00:13:26,605 --> 00:13:28,448
Jorj Segalning fermasi.

205
00:13:31,544 --> 00:13:32,989
DOYLE: <i>Bularning barchasi
yosh ijodkorlar yetishib chiqmoqda</i>

206
00:13:33,012 --> 00:13:35,424
<i>Nyu-Yorkdan
bu karnavalni o'tkazish uchun.</i>

207
00:13:35,447 --> 00:13:37,324
<i>Va bo'ladi
haykaltaroshlik raqsi.</i>

208
00:13:39,051 --> 00:13:42,032
<i>Men haykal yasadim
Bu qiruvchi samolyotga o'xshardi.</i>

209
00:13:42,054 --> 00:13:44,364
<i>Va Eva, bu u edi
birinchi haykal, albatta,</i>

210
00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:47,269
<i>bu juda, qandaydir,
shaklsiz narsa.</i>

211
00:13:47,293 --> 00:13:49,068
<i>Ikki kishi ichkariga kirib, raqsga tushishdi.</i>

212
00:13:49,094 --> 00:13:51,165
<i>Va bu haykallarning hammasi raqsga tushardi.</i>

213
00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:57,574
GOLDMAN:
<i>Ularda ham bir voqea bo'lgan.</i>

214
00:13:58,504 --> 00:13:59,983
<i>Bu tirik teatr edi</i>

215
00:14:00,606 --> 00:14:02,176
<i>hech qanday skriptsiz.</i>

216
00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:06,623
HONIG:
<i>Ivon Rayner ismli raqqosa bor edi</i>

217
00:14:06,645 --> 00:14:10,183
<i>omborning tomida raqsga tushgan.</i>

218
00:14:10,216 --> 00:14:13,390
SERRA: <i>Rassomlar bilan muloqot qilishdi
o'sha paytda juda ko'p raqqosalar.</i>

219
00:14:13,419 --> 00:14:17,925
<i>Biz bor deb o'yladik
raqs</i>da ko'proq g'oyalar hosil bo'ladi

220
00:14:17,957 --> 00:14:21,370
<i>holatdan ko'ra
haykaltaroshlar yoki rassomlar tomonidan.</i>

221
00:14:25,831 --> 00:14:28,812
HONIG: <i>Eva quvur qurgan edi</i>

222
00:14:28,834 --> 00:14:32,338
<i>odamlar tomonidan tayyorlangan matodan
qimirlab o'tishlari kerak edi.</i>

223
00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:38,517
<i>Bu qiziqarli edi.</i>

224
00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:41,616
<i>Bu san'atkorlar o'ynayotgan edi
va yaxshi vaqt o'tkazing.</i>

225
00:14:45,217 --> 00:14:47,857
HESSE: <i>Hammasi yaxshi.</i>

226
00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:49,491
<i>Bu ajoyib hafta bo'ldi.</i>

227
00:14:50,422 --> 00:14:53,835
<i>Men Tomni har kuni ko'proq sevaman.</i>

228
00:14:53,859 --> 00:14:58,001
DOYLE: <i> Uning otasi: “Men xohlamayman
siz yahudiydan boshqa hech kimga uylanasiz.”</i>

229
00:14:58,030 --> 00:14:59,475
<i>Shunday qilib, men konvertatsiya qildim.</i>

230
00:14:59,498 --> 00:15:03,708
Men yahudiy bo'ldim. Aytmoqchimanki, men shulga bordim,
Men butun raqamni qildim.

231
00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:08,344
CHARASH: <i>Bilasizmi,
ular hech qanday dinga qiziqmasdi.</i>

232
00:15:08,374 --> 00:15:09,682
<i>Lekin otam uchun</i>

233
00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:13,155
<i>va nemis kelib chiqishi tufayli,</i>

234
00:15:13,178 --> 00:15:16,091
<i>u bilan birga bordi
va Tom u bilan birga ketdi.</i>

235
00:15:17,683 --> 00:15:21,426
DOYLE: <i>Mening ikki yoki uchta do'stim
hammasi hech qachon Bar Mitzvah-ed bo'lmagan,</i>

236
00:15:21,453 --> 00:15:26,198
shuning uchun bizda Bar Mitzva bor edi. Biz o'ynadik
Bilasizmi, Belle Bart yozadi. (Kuladi)

237
00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:29,229
Va bir-birlariga qalamlar berdilar,

238
00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:31,497
butun tayoq.

239
00:15:33,832 --> 00:15:38,679
Tom yaxshi va qiziqarli haykaltarosh edi,
faqat uning etuk ishiga kirib keladi

240
00:15:38,704 --> 00:15:40,775
va Eva yaxshi rassom edi.

241
00:15:40,806 --> 00:15:42,752
Lekin hech narsa yo'q edi
u erda hali ham noyob.

242
00:15:43,709 --> 00:15:45,347
Ammo u juda ambitsiyali edi

243
00:15:45,377 --> 00:15:48,119
va yoshlik san'at quvvatiga to'la.

244
00:15:49,682 --> 00:15:54,131
DOYLE: <i>Bizda loft bor
19 va 5-avenyu</i>da

245
00:15:54,153 --> 00:15:56,633
<i>Bu ajoyib loft edi.
Uzunligi yarim blok edi.</i>

246
00:15:56,655 --> 00:15:59,932
<i>Biz uning bir qismini ijaraga oldik
Ethelin Honig</i>ga

247
00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:01,836
HONIG: Tonglardan biri
Men kelganim,

248
00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:05,069
Men ularga haqiqatni aytdim
hozirgina ko'rganim

249
00:16:05,097 --> 00:16:09,512
da yirik ko'rgazma
Sidney Janis galereyasi.

250
00:16:09,535 --> 00:16:11,446
U Pop Art deb nomlangan.

251
00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:13,143
Va men aytdim: "Menimcha
u yerga borishingiz kerak

252
00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:15,618
"Va qarang
va nima bo'layotganini ko'ring.

253
00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:17,211
"Bu hech qachon avvalgidek bo'lmaydi."

254
00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:24,192
LIPPARD: <i>Pop-art, albatta,
voqea joyiga otilib chiqdi</i>

255
00:16:24,216 --> 00:16:25,286
<i>va bu katta ish edi.</i>

256
00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:27,490
<i>Pop-art o'yinni o'zgartiruvchi turdagi edi.</i>

257
00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:35,728
SUSSMAN: <i>Munozaralar
keyin paydo bo'lgan</i>

258
00:16:35,761 --> 00:16:40,039
<i>odamlar tarafdori va qarshi
ehtirosli edi.</i>

259
00:16:40,065 --> 00:16:42,238
Va, albatta, Eva
doim muzeylarga borgan

260
00:16:42,267 --> 00:16:44,770
va aniq bilardi
nima bo'layotgan edi.

261
00:16:44,803 --> 00:16:47,181
<i>Va menda bir tuyg'u bor</i>

262
00:16:47,206 --> 00:16:52,246
<i>u bo'lishi mumkin edi
buning uchun Tomga qaraganda ko'proq.</i>

263
00:16:57,349 --> 00:17:01,627
WAPNER: <i>Uda yo'q edi
qabul qilingan haqiqatlar.</i>

264
00:17:01,653 --> 00:17:04,429
Va u tekshirdi va shubha qildi

265
00:17:05,524 --> 00:17:07,299
va, um,

266
00:17:09,261 --> 00:17:11,332
narsalar haqida o'yladi.

267
00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:15,470
HESSE: <i>Men o'zimni majburlashim kerakmi?
rasm bo'yicha oldindan o'ylangan g'oyalar?</i>

268
00:17:15,501 --> 00:17:21,144
<i>Va men qay darajada birga borishim kerak
hozir tuvalda nima sodir bo'ladi?</i>

269
00:17:21,173 --> 00:17:24,916
BARBARA BROWN: <i>U bo'lganida
rasm, u juda bloklangan edi.</i>

270
00:17:24,943 --> 00:17:28,686
<i>Lekin uning dastlabki kollajlari</i>

271
00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:32,856
<i>g'ayrioddiy edi. Aytmoqchimanki,
u hech kim kabi chiza olardi.</i>

272
00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:37,129
<i>Har qachon u biror narsa chizgan bo'lsa,
juda chiroyli edi.</i>

273
00:17:37,156 --> 00:17:40,729
HESSE: <i>Men uchun,
naqqoshlik shunday bo'ldi, san'at qilish,</i>

274
00:17:41,593 --> 00:17:43,595
<i>rasm chizish.</i>

275
00:17:43,629 --> 00:17:46,542
<i>Tarix, an'ana
juda ko'p.</i>

276
00:17:47,399 --> 00:17:48,969
<i>Men hayron qolmoqchiman.</i>

277
00:17:50,302 --> 00:17:52,475
<i>Men chizishni davom ettiraman,</i>

278
00:17:52,504 --> 00:17:54,245
<i>ularning individualligini surish,</i>

279
00:17:54,273 --> 00:17:56,549
<i>garchi ular qarshi chiqsalar ham
har bir asosiy tendentsiya.</i>

280
00:17:57,643 --> 00:17:59,179
<i>Jin bo'lsin.</i>

281
00:17:59,211 --> 00:18:00,815
<i>Men hayratga tushganlarning hammasi ham shunday.</i>

282
00:18:07,352 --> 00:18:11,095
DOYLE: <i>Eva zargarlik buyumlarida ishlagan
Bleecker ko'chasi</i>dagi do'kon

283
00:18:11,123 --> 00:18:14,263
<i>va men o'qituvchilik qildim
Yangi maktab</i>da

284
00:18:14,293 --> 00:18:16,204
<i>Va bulardan biri
ikki ishim bor edi,</i>

285
00:18:16,228 --> 00:18:19,266
va biz shunday edik
shunga qarab yashash.

286
00:18:19,298 --> 00:18:22,040
<i>Va keyin nima bo'ldi
Arnold Rudlinger edi,</i>

287
00:18:22,067 --> 00:18:23,910
<i>Rejissor Kunstverein,</i>

288
00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:26,849
<i>va bir qancha nemis kollektorlari</i>

289
00:18:26,872 --> 00:18:28,874
<i>tosh haykallarimni ko'rdim.</i>

290
00:18:30,709 --> 00:18:33,280
<i>Rudlinger ketmoqchi edi
menga Bazelda shou bering.</i>

291
00:18:33,312 --> 00:18:34,518
U: «Qandaysiz
Bu narsalarni ko'chiring?"

292
00:18:34,546 --> 00:18:37,425
Men: “Xo‘sh, kerak
quti va lala quring ... "

293
00:18:37,449 --> 00:18:41,420
<i>Shaydt esa shunday dedi: “Mana, bizda bor
tosh juda o'xshaydi.</i>

294
00:18:41,453 --> 00:18:46,027
"Nega kelmaysan
Germaniya va bilasizmi,

295
00:18:46,058 --> 00:18:50,336
"Siz haykalni Germaniyada yasashingiz mumkin
va biz uni Shveytsariyaga yuboramiz, bilasizmi?

296
00:18:50,362 --> 00:18:52,137
Va men aytdim:
— Ha, men shunday qilardim.

297
00:18:57,002 --> 00:19:00,347
<i>Eva qandaydir qo'rqib ketdi
u erga borish haqida, bilasizmi,</i>

298
00:19:00,372 --> 00:19:02,875
<i> nima bo'lganligi sababli ...
uning oilasi bilan sodir bo'lgan.</i>

299
00:19:04,243 --> 00:19:06,655
HESSE: <i>Men hozir shu yerda o'tiraman
vahima va yig'lab.</i>

300
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:11,185
<i>Ketish bosimi
menga og'ir yotadi.</i>

301
00:19:11,216 --> 00:19:15,187
Men: “Mana, yaxshi vaqt ekan
Nyu-Yorkdan chiqib ketish."

302
00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:17,097
<i>Pop-art endi katta narsa.</i>

303
00:19:17,122 --> 00:19:18,897
<i>Biz buni yo'q qilamiz.</i>

304
00:19:18,924 --> 00:19:22,736
<i>Scheidt esa menga bermoqchi edi
maosh va hamma narsani bilasiz.</i>

305
00:19:22,761 --> 00:19:24,104
Biz ishlashimiz shart emas.

306
00:19:24,129 --> 00:19:25,733
Bilasizmi, biz faqat ishimiz ustida ishlaymiz.

307
00:19:27,466 --> 00:19:30,572
HONIG: <i>Men uning aytganini eslayman
uning qo'rqib ketgani haqida</i>

308
00:19:30,602 --> 00:19:32,741
<i>bu joyga qaytish</i>

309
00:19:32,771 --> 00:19:35,274
<i>u juda ko'p azob chekkan joyda.</i>

310
00:19:35,307 --> 00:19:39,153
CHARASH: <i>Lekin Sol LeVitt,
yaqin do'st, yaqin sirdosh,</i>

311
00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:42,182
Buni aytib, uni ruhlantirdi
unga yaxshi xizmat ko'rsatar edi</i>

312
00:19:42,214 --> 00:19:44,626
<i>chiqish uchun
Nyu-York san'at sahnasi.</i>

313
00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:48,120
<i>U ishlay oladi
ancha erkinroq tarzda.</i>

314
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,100
HESSE: <i>Hurmatli janob Sheydt,</i>

315
00:19:56,128 --> 00:19:58,870
<i>Men yasashni boshladim
sayohatimizga tayyorgarlik,</i>

316
00:19:58,897 --> 00:20:02,606
<i>Hammasi shunday
biz uchun juda real bo'lib bormoqda.</i>

317
00:20:02,634 --> 00:20:04,045
Bu Tomning imkoniyati edi.

318
00:20:04,069 --> 00:20:06,481
Bu Tom edi
Germaniyaga borishni iltimos qildi.

319
00:20:07,406 --> 00:20:09,647
<i>U uchun bu juda qiyin edi.</i>

320
00:20:09,675 --> 00:20:12,588
<i>Lekin Eva ruxsat bermadi
imkoniyat bor.</i>

321
00:20:12,611 --> 00:20:14,386
<i>Eva tavakkalchi edi.</i>

322
00:20:14,413 --> 00:20:17,656
<i>Garchi Eva biroz bo'lsa-da
o'sha paytda ko'proq xotin,</i>

323
00:20:17,683 --> 00:20:18,923
<i>lekin hammasi o'zgaradi.</i>

324
00:20:25,357 --> 00:20:27,132
(TURBINALAR BO'LGAN)

325
00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:50,989
(NEMIS TILIDA)

326
00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:05,408
SUSSMAN: <i>Tom va Eva edi
Kettvig</i>da o'rnatildi

327
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:08,070
<i>bu shahar bor edi
bu to'qimachilik fabrikalari</i>

328
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:11,775
<i>bu oilada bo'lgan
Arnard Scheidt yuzlab yillar davomida.</i>

329
00:21:16,408 --> 00:21:19,218
Eva va Tom qaerda yashagan
u erda edi,

330
00:21:19,244 --> 00:21:22,384
bu shunday deb atalgan edi ...

331
00:21:22,414 --> 00:21:23,484
(NEMIS TILIDA GAPIRADI)

332
00:21:26,251 --> 00:21:30,222
<i>Lekin ular ishlayotgan qismi</i>

333
00:21:30,255 --> 00:21:32,360
<i>bu allaqachon edi...</i>

334
00:21:32,391 --> 00:21:34,337
JOHANN: <i>Bu shunday edi
allaqachon yopildi.</i>

335
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,134
HESSE: <i>Bizning studiyamiz</i>

336
00:21:36,161 --> 00:21:40,132
<i>yuqori qavatda yorug'lik yoritgichi bor
va derazalar har ikki futda.</i>

337
00:21:40,165 --> 00:21:41,872
<i>Men o'tiraman va umid qilaman
Men biroz ishlayman.</i>

338
00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:45,308
<i>Menga kerak bo'lishi mumkin
menga ko'proq ishoning</i>

339
00:21:45,337 --> 00:21:48,284
<i>ishlashdan oldin
men uchun nimanidir anglatadi.</i>

340
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,548
GABRIEL: <i>Birinchi marta
Men Evani ko'rganim,</i>

341
00:21:50,575 --> 00:21:53,852
u menga berdi
juda issiq tuyg'u,

342
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,386
kutib olish hissi.

343
00:21:59,618 --> 00:22:01,029
<i>Men besh yoshda edim,</i>

344
00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:04,899
<i>va u meni taklif qildi
atelyega kelish.</i>

345
00:22:04,923 --> 00:22:08,132
<i>U xohlardi
menga qanday bo'yashni ko'rsating.</i>

346
00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:13,004
<i>Va, albatta, biz o'ynadik
hovuzda ko'p.</i>

347
00:22:14,232 --> 00:22:15,711
(BOLALAR KULADI)

348
00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:19,079
<i>Sizda bular bor edi
suv to'plari o'ynash,</i>

349
00:22:19,104 --> 00:22:21,744
<i>va biz bor edik...</i> (KULIB)
<i>hovuzga sakrash.</i>

350
00:22:23,875 --> 00:22:24,945
<i>Bu ajoyib edi.</i>

351
00:22:26,611 --> 00:22:29,854
<i>U chizgan
boshqa akam Karl</i> uchun

352
00:22:29,881 --> 00:22:32,487
Waterball Play deb nomlangan rasm.

353
00:22:33,385 --> 00:22:35,626
<i>Menimcha, u ham buni yaxshi ko'rardi,</i>

354
00:22:35,654 --> 00:22:38,931
<i>biz bilan bo'lish va shunchaki o'ynash.</i>

355
00:22:38,957 --> 00:22:43,428
<i>Menda shunday
juda quyoshli taassurotlar,</i>

356
00:22:43,462 --> 00:22:49,902
<i>lekin menda ham bor
yil oxirida ba'zi xotiralar.</i>

357
00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:54,475
Uning ichida nimadir bor edi
qaysi edi, um...

358
00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:58,451
traurig, <i>qayg'uli.</i>

359
00:22:58,477 --> 00:23:01,856
<i>Menimcha, bu unga qiyin edi,
bu mamlakatda bo'lish.</i>

360
00:23:03,982 --> 00:23:05,984
HESSE: <i>1964 yil 13-iyun.</i>

361
00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:09,491
<i>Kettvigdagi oltinchi kunimiz.</i>

362
00:23:10,689 --> 00:23:14,136
<i>Kecha menda bor edi
qandaydir melankolik.</i>

363
00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:18,301
<i>Men o'zimning ko'proq narsalarni ishlab chiqdim
tashvishli fikrlar va his-tuyg'ular.</i>

364
00:23:19,631 --> 00:23:22,874
<i>Men 1936 yilda Germaniyada tug'ilganman.</i>

365
00:23:32,377 --> 00:23:33,913
(Tanrifsiz Gaplash)

366
00:23:33,945 --> 00:23:38,690
<i>Mening oilam Gamburgdan,
Germaniya, Shimoliy Germaniya.</i>

367
00:23:38,717 --> 00:23:41,323
<i>Men o'sha yerda tug'ilganman
va bu erda Eva tug'ilgan.</i>

368
00:23:42,621 --> 00:23:45,033
HESSE: <i>Mening otam edi
jinoiy huquqshunos.</i>

369
00:23:45,056 --> 00:23:48,003
<i>U endigina tugatgan edi
uning ikki doktorlik darajasi</i>ga ega

370
00:23:48,026 --> 00:23:51,439
<i>va menda eng ko'p narsa bor edi
dunyodagi go'zal ona.</i>

371
00:23:51,463 --> 00:23:53,136
<i>U qaradi
Ingrid Bergman kabi.</i>

372
00:23:53,965 --> 00:23:55,876
<i>U Gamburgda san'at sohasida o'qigan.</i>

373
00:23:59,638 --> 00:24:03,814
CHARASH: <i>Mening otam Tagebücherni saqlab qoldi
mening hayotim va Eva hayoti haqida.</i>

374
00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:06,551
<i>Bu haqiqatan ham jurnal.</i>

375
00:24:07,879 --> 00:24:09,415
Uilyam:
<i>Bu bolaligingiz kitobi bo'lsin</i>

376
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,724
<i>gid bo'ling
keyingi hayotingizda.</i>

377
00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:15,390
<i>Unda siz tushunasiz
qanday o'sgansiz.</i>

378
00:24:16,721 --> 00:24:19,827
<i>Bularning hech biri yo'qolmasligi mumkin,
mening sevimli farzandim,</i>

379
00:24:19,858 --> 00:24:23,567
<i>chunki hech narsa yo'q
bu bizni ko'proq quvvatlaydi</i>

380
00:24:23,595 --> 00:24:25,472
<i>hayotimizdagi qiyinchiliklarda</i>

381
00:24:25,497 --> 00:24:27,704
<i>bolaligimiz haqidagi sharhdan ko'ra.</i>

382
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:37,980
<i>Helen tug'ilganda,
erkinlik va haqiqat</i>

383
00:24:38,009 --> 00:24:40,649
<i>allaqachon g'oyib bo'lgan edi
Germaniyadan.</i>

384
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,425
<i>Bu allaqachon besh oy edi
Gitler g'azablangan.</i>

385
00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:49,689
Nemis yahudiylarining hayoti juda tez o'zgardi.

386
00:24:49,721 --> 00:24:53,533
Natsistlar kelganda
1933 yil yanvarda hokimiyat tepasiga keldi.

387
00:24:53,558 --> 00:24:56,004
juda ko'p mahrumlik bor edi.

388
00:24:56,027 --> 00:24:58,007
<i>Odamlar jabrlandi.</i>

389
00:24:58,029 --> 00:24:59,906
<i>Ular o'zlarida ishlay olmadilar
endi kasblar.</i>

390
00:24:59,931 --> 00:25:03,811
<i>Ishlash taqiqlangan edi
deb atalmish yahudiy advokat sifatida.</i>

391
00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:09,285
UİLYAM: <i>Men kasbimni yo'qotdim
1933 yil 24 aprel</i>da

392
00:25:09,307 --> 00:25:11,378
<i>Keyin esa yanada og'ir yillar bo'ldi.</i>

393
00:25:13,411 --> 00:25:15,391
(Olomon qo'shig'i)

394
00:25:24,489 --> 00:25:25,991
<i>10-noyabrdan keyin</i>

395
00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:28,800
<i>barcha ibodatxonalarda
vayron qilingan edi,</i>

396
00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:30,966
<i>barcha yahudiy korxonalari vayron bo'ldi,</i>

397
00:25:32,097 --> 00:25:35,237
<i>deyarli barcha erkaklar
hibsga olingan edi,</i>

398
00:25:35,267 --> 00:25:38,840
<i>va eng dahshatlisi
har xil turdagi vahshiylik</i>lar

399
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:43,785
<i>ga qarshi sodir etilgan
Butun Germaniyadagi yahudiylar.</i>

400
00:25:43,808 --> 00:25:48,689
<i>Bir kishi chet eldan, hech bo'lmaganda, uchun
bolalarni imkon qadar tezroq qutqaring.</i>

401
00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:56,355
<i>7 dekabr</i>

402
00:25:56,388 --> 00:26:00,666
<i>Xelen va Eva Gollandiyaga ketishdi
bolalar transporti bilan.</i>

403
00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:03,404
<i>Uchrashuv bo'ladimi?</i>

404
00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:06,304
<i>Avval bizni o'ldirishadimi?</i>

405
00:26:07,365 --> 00:26:10,175
<i>Bizga platformaga kirishga ruxsat berilmadi.</i>

406
00:26:10,201 --> 00:26:13,842
<i>Xelen va Eva qo'llarini ushlab turishdi
va poyezdga yo‘l oldi,</i>

407
00:26:13,872 --> 00:26:18,719
<i>tasdiqlangan jinoyatchilar hamrohligida
bojxona xodimlari va Gestapo sifatida.</i>

408
00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:24,894
(BOLALAR nemis tilida qo'shiq aytmoqda)

409
00:26:39,464 --> 00:26:43,241
CHARASH: <i>Eva uch yoshga to'lmagan edi,
men esa besh yarim yoshda edim.</i>

410
00:26:43,268 --> 00:26:45,248
(BOLALAR KUYLASHDA DAVOM ETILADI)

411
00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:48,084
HESSE: <i>Biz Gollandiyaga bordik.</i>

412
00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:51,610
<i>Bizni olib ketishlari kerak edi
otamning akasi va uning xotini,</i>

413
00:26:52,677 --> 00:26:54,987
<i>lekin ularga buni qilishga ruxsat berilmagan.</i>

414
00:26:55,013 --> 00:26:57,118
<i>Bizni qo'yishdi
katolik bolalar uyi.</i>

415
00:26:58,183 --> 00:26:59,821
CHARASH:
<i>Men buni eslayman Eva</i>

416
00:26:59,851 --> 00:27:01,990
<i>hojatxonaga o'rgatilgan edi
uyda,</i>

417
00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:07,129
<i>lekin u hamma narsadan qaytgan bo'lsa kerak
shunday bo'ldi va ular uni kaltaklashdi.</i>

418
00:27:07,158 --> 00:27:09,729
<i>U kasal bo'lib qoldi
uning tug'ilgan vaqti atrofida,</i>

419
00:27:09,761 --> 00:27:13,038
<i>va u karantinga olindi,
shuning uchun uni ko'rishimga ruxsat berishmadi.</i>

420
00:27:15,066 --> 00:27:16,568
Uilyam:
<i>Fevral oyining boshida,</i>

421
00:27:16,601 --> 00:27:19,707
<i>Rut va men ham qutqarildik.</i>

422
00:27:19,738 --> 00:27:22,378
<i>Biz Gollandiyaga keldik
va bolalarni oldi.</i>

423
00:27:25,043 --> 00:27:26,989
HESSE:
<i>Otamning akasi va uning rafiqasi</i>

424
00:27:27,012 --> 00:27:30,016
<i>kontsentratsion lagerlarda tugadi.</i>

425
00:27:30,048 --> 00:27:33,029
<i>Va barcha bobom va buvim
va hamma.</i>

426
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,223
<i>Hech kim erisha olmadi.</i>

427
00:27:36,354 --> 00:27:38,561
<i>Lekin biz shunday qildik.</i>

428
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:42,663
<i>Biz Amerikaga bordik
otamning amakivachchalaridan biri orqali.</i>

429
00:27:42,694 --> 00:27:45,004
<i>Bu oxiri edi
yoz, 1939.</i>

430
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:47,537
<i>Bu juda kech edi.</i>

431
00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:50,843
<i>Bu oxirgi imkoniyat edi.</i>

432
00:28:07,485 --> 00:28:09,726
<i>1964 yil 21 iyul.</i>

433
00:28:11,056 --> 00:28:14,526
<i>Hurmatli Rozi, menda hafta sekin o'tdi.</i>

434
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:15,970
<i>Hech qanday bosmagan.</i>

435
00:28:15,994 --> 00:28:18,201
<i>Oson bo'ldi.</i>

436
00:28:18,229 --> 00:28:21,039
<i>Bu nimani anglatishini bilmayman
haqiqatan ham o'tmishni chuqur o'rganish,</i>

437
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:23,209
<i>oila va boshqalar.</i>

438
00:28:24,469 --> 00:28:25,880
<i>Juda qo'rqsam kerak.</i>

439
00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:31,176
<i>Bu erda dastlabki ikki hafta,
Men dahshatli, dahshatli tushlar ko'rdim.</i>

440
00:28:35,046 --> 00:28:36,047
<i>Qo'rqinchli tush.</i>

441
00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:39,627
<i>Katta ziyofat.</i>

442
00:28:39,651 --> 00:28:40,721
(JAZZ O'YNAYOR)

443
00:28:40,752 --> 00:28:42,129
<i>Yuzlab odamlar.</i>

444
00:28:42,153 --> 00:28:43,223
(NOQIYAT SUHBAT)

445
00:28:43,254 --> 00:28:44,562
<i>Rasmiy.</i>

446
00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:45,659
(SHIRA QILISHI)

447
00:28:45,690 --> 00:28:48,136
<i>Tom juda mast.</i>

448
00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:51,971
<i>Birovning unga aytganini eshitdim,
“Sevimli xotiningni uyga olib ket.”</i>

449
00:28:54,299 --> 00:28:57,678
<i>U meni tashqariga olib chiqdi,
men bilan yugurdi, tez.</i>

450
00:28:57,702 --> 00:28:59,443
(YUG'IRGAN IZLAR)

451
00:29:00,538 --> 00:29:01,642
<i>Meni xafa qil.</i>

452
00:29:06,678 --> 00:29:09,420
<i>Biz yuqoriroq va balandroq bo'ldik
osmon orqali.</i>

453
00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:14,086
<i>Fransuz legioni bor edi
bizning ostidagi parad.</i>

454
00:29:16,988 --> 00:29:20,765
<i>Ofitserlar chiqdi,
va uzun, qilichli qilichlar</i> bilan

455
00:29:20,792 --> 00:29:23,033
<i>boshlarni kesib tashlang
barcha legionerlarni o'chirish.</i>

456
00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:27,204
<i>Men Tomni boshqarishim kerak edi.</i>
(ROARS)

457
00:29:27,232 --> 00:29:31,146
<i>Ofitserlar bizni ushlab olishdi
va bizni yolg'izlikka tashladi.</i>

458
00:29:31,169 --> 00:29:33,672
<i>Bizda qilichlar bor edi
dyuym uzoqda tutilgan,</i>

459
00:29:33,705 --> 00:29:37,118
<i>Men, qichqirayotgan boshim bilan.</i>

460
00:29:37,142 --> 00:29:40,612
<i>Men endi o'zimni boshqara olmadim,
lekin o'zini tutishi haqida ogohlantirildi.</i>

461
00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:42,516
(POYZDDA CHUGGING)

462
00:29:42,547 --> 00:29:45,357
<i>Ular, agar men
bola bo'lmagan,</i>

463
00:29:45,383 --> 00:29:47,124
<i>ular meni allaqachon o'ldirishgan bo'lardi.</i>

464
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:57,167
<i>Juma.</i>

465
00:29:57,195 --> 00:29:59,402
<i>Dastlab o'zimni boshqacha his qildim.</i>

466
00:29:59,430 --> 00:30:01,603
<i>Ammo yana bir bor,
Men o'zim bilan qoldim.</i>

467
00:30:03,301 --> 00:30:06,111
<i>Bugun yog'li bo'yoq bo'yicha ish boshladi.</i>

468
00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:10,279
<i>Kichik ikkita qildim,
juda ekspressionistik rasmlar.</i>

469
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:13,778
<i>Men o'zimni juda xursand his qilyapman, chunki men zavq oldim
ular va ular men uchun haqiqiy bo'lib tuyuldi.</i>

470
00:30:14,979 --> 00:30:16,583
<i>Negadir, menimcha, bu muhim.</i>

471
00:30:18,716 --> 00:30:21,788
<i>Men hali ham to'g'ri ishlamayapman,
Men bilganimdek, mening fikrimcha, kerak.</i>

472
00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:25,867
<i>Tom ham topishi mumkin
qiyin ish.</i>

473
00:30:25,890 --> 00:30:30,305
<i>Kamroq, u nima haqida ekanligini biladi,
nimaga erishmoqchi.</i>

474
00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:33,942
U qachon gaplashardi
uning ishi haqida,

475
00:30:33,965 --> 00:30:38,072
u bu haqda gapirar edi
o'zini juda kamsitadigan atamalar.

476
00:30:38,102 --> 00:30:41,914
U: “Bilasizmi,
Men yangi narsalar bilan shug'ullanaman."

477
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:43,942
Va men o'zimcha o'yladim,
bu kulgili gap.

478
00:30:43,975 --> 00:30:46,182
Siz hech qachon aytmaysiz
Tom atrofida patshke-ing.

479
00:30:47,645 --> 00:30:49,022
<i>U hali ishonchi komil emas edi.</i>

480
00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:52,719
Tom ishonch hosil qildi.

481
00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:59,794
VERNER NEKES:
<i>Men Eva va Tom Doyl bilan uchrashdim</i>

482
00:30:59,824 --> 00:31:04,898
Qisqa metrajli film kunlari, kinofestival
Oberxauzendagi qisqa metrajli filmlar,

483
00:31:04,929 --> 00:31:07,808
<i>va buni eslayman
Eva ayniqsa yoqdi</i>

484
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:13,110
<i>Yapon filmi
tomonidan Yoji Kuri,</i>Aos.

485
00:31:14,105 --> 00:31:15,083
(SCREECHES)

486
00:31:16,908 --> 00:31:19,252
(Yana qichqiradi)

487
00:31:19,277 --> 00:31:25,353
<i>Eva bu qutilarni sahna sifatida oldi
keyinchalik uning ba'zi rasmlarida.</i>

488
00:31:26,117 --> 00:31:27,095
(GASPING)

489
00:31:31,689 --> 00:31:34,135
<i>Eva har doim tayyor edi</i>

490
00:31:34,158 --> 00:31:37,503
barcha xulosalarni qabul qilish
u ko'rgan

491
00:31:37,528 --> 00:31:41,169
va ular ustida ishlash
o'z yo'lini topish uchun.

492
00:31:41,199 --> 00:31:42,507
(NOQIYAT SUHBAT)

493
00:31:42,533 --> 00:31:46,913
15 oy ichida Eva Hesse
Germaniyada edi,

494
00:31:46,938 --> 00:31:48,849
ko'p sodir bo'ldi.

495
00:31:48,873 --> 00:31:50,147
<i>Tom Doyl bilan birga</i>

496
00:31:50,174 --> 00:31:53,883
u har bir muhim narsaga kirdi
butun Evropadagi muzey.

497
00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:57,587
<i>Ular Londonda edi,
Parijda, Rimda.</i>

498
00:31:57,615 --> 00:31:59,788
HESSE:
<i>Bryussel. Muzeyga bordi.</i>

499
00:31:59,817 --> 00:32:04,459
<i>Bryugel va Bosch, Alechinskiy, Matsis,
Kalder, Mur, Chillida, Davie, Noguchi.</i>

500
00:32:06,457 --> 00:32:07,800
PETZINGER:
<i>U shaxs edi...</i>

501
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:13,039
kimning ko'zlari
ochiq, ochiq, ochiq edi.

502
00:32:13,064 --> 00:32:16,204
Va unga ko'zlari uchun ovqat kerak edi.

503
00:32:19,871 --> 00:32:22,249
LEWITT:
<i>Tom va Eva Doyl, Kettvig.</i>

504
00:32:22,273 --> 00:32:25,618
<i>Sayohatingiz yaxshi o'tdi degan umiddaman.
Endi ishga qayting.</i>

505
00:32:25,643 --> 00:32:27,987
<i>Barcha haykallar buyumdir
u yoki bu turdagi.</i>

506
00:32:28,846 --> 00:32:30,757
<i>U bilan kurashmang. Bor, bor.</i>

507
00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:31,760
<i>Yagona.</i>

508
00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:34,887
DOYLE: <i>Biz ishladik
bir-birining narsalari haqida.</i>

509
00:32:34,919 --> 00:32:38,162
Aytmoqchimanki, u menga yordam berdi
haykalimni chizganimda.

510
00:32:38,189 --> 00:32:42,137
Va men unga, bilasizmi, shunchalik yordam berdim ...
Men ramkalar qurdim, hamma narsani qurdim, bilasiz.

511
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,367
<i>Bizning shaxsiy hayotimiz
unchalik ajoyib emas edi,</i>

512
00:32:44,395 --> 00:32:46,932
<i>lekin ish hayotimiz juda yaxshi edi.</i>

513
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,569
Men ichganimdan tashqari
bir oz ko'p, keyin

514
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:50,408
bilasiz. Men juda ko'p ichdim.

515
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:52,407
Bu unchalik yaxshi emas edi.

516
00:32:54,005 --> 00:32:55,678
HESSE: <i>3-oktabr, shanba.</i>

517
00:32:56,741 --> 00:32:58,516
<i>Tom kimnidir hushini yo'qotdi.</i>

518
00:32:59,777 --> 00:33:02,348
<i>Tom har qachongidan ham yomonroq,</i>

519
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:05,293
<i>va men tun bo'yi yig'lab, baxtsiz edim.</i>

520
00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:12,690
<i>Aziz Rozi,
Tomga nisbatan g'azabim kuchayadi.</i>

521
00:33:13,624 --> 00:33:15,103
<i>U sinish nuqtasiga yaqinlashmoqda.</i>

522
00:33:16,627 --> 00:33:19,039
<i>Bayramlarda u jirkanchdir.</i>

523
00:33:19,063 --> 00:33:22,977
<i>U ayoldan keyingi ayolga o'tadi,
ularni erga botiradi.</i>

524
00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:24,605
<i>Ular buni yaxshi ko'radilar.</i>

525
00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:27,741
Men bundan faxrlanmayman, lekin men...
Men ham shunday edim, bilasizmi?

526
00:33:27,772 --> 00:33:30,514
Va hamma shunday edi,
bilasizmi? Xuddi...

527
00:33:30,541 --> 00:33:32,020
Xuddi...

528
00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:35,286
Shuning uchun siz rassom edingiz,
Bilasizmi, demak siz... (KULIB)

529
00:33:36,914 --> 00:33:39,758
HESSE: <i>Yaqinda bor
qo'ldan chiqdi.</i>

530
00:33:39,784 --> 00:33:41,320
<i>Bu sizni tashvishga soladi.</i>

531
00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:43,958
<i>U ularni o'padi.</i>

532
00:33:45,223 --> 00:33:48,033
<i>Buni yozish juda g'alati tuyuladi.</i>

533
00:33:48,059 --> 00:33:51,768
<i>Lekin Rozi, mening g'ururim og'riyapti
u yerda bo‘lib tomosha qilish.</i>

534
00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:53,865
<i>Og'riyapti.</i>

535
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:58,541
<i>U qandaydir chekindi,
bilasizmi, va, uh...</i>

536
00:34:00,371 --> 00:34:03,147
u hech qachon chiqmaydi
Bunga qarshi, lekin bilasiz,

537
00:34:03,174 --> 00:34:05,017
Menimcha, u bundan juda xafa bo'ldi.

538
00:34:06,978 --> 00:34:08,252
CHARASH:
<i>Eva yozadi...</i>

539
00:34:08,279 --> 00:34:10,452
<i>u har doim bu uning san'ati ekanligini aytadi
Bu uni o'ziga tortdi.</i>

540
00:34:11,783 --> 00:34:14,161
Shaxsan menimcha
u ajralib ketdi,

541
00:34:14,185 --> 00:34:17,928
va professional,
u o'zini davom ettirishga majbur qildi.

542
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,034
HESSE:
<i>19-noyabr, payshanba.</i>

543
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:27,100
<i>Men yangi varaqni aylantirdim.</i>

544
00:34:28,032 --> 00:34:29,409
<i>Boshqa yo'lni sinab ko'raman.</i>

545
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:34,073
<i>Bolalar uchun chizmalar yaratdi
shanba kuni.</i>

546
00:34:34,105 --> 00:34:38,576
<i>Ular rang-barang edi.
Qizil, ko'k, sariq, yashil.</i>

547
00:34:38,609 --> 00:34:40,987
<i>Kvadratlarda, har biri
alifbodagi harf.</i>

548
00:34:42,246 --> 00:34:44,192
<i>Bu meni yana hayajonga soldi</i>

549
00:34:44,215 --> 00:34:46,161
<i>chunki ular boshqacha,</i>

550
00:34:46,184 --> 00:34:48,926
<i>Meni qilishim uchun yetarli
qayerga ketyapman deb hayronman,</i>

551
00:34:48,953 --> 00:34:53,595
<i>va fikr bormi,
yoki juda ko'p turli xilmi?</i>

552
00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:06,145
LIPPARD: <i>Menimcha, ehtimol
munosabatlar qandaydir darajada yomonlashmoqda</i>

553
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:09,413
<i>balki bunga nimadir aloqasi bordir.
Bilasizmi, bu dahshatli fakt</i>dir

554
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,250
<i>ko'p ijodkorlik, siz bo'lganingizda
baxtsiz, siz tez-tez yaxshiroq ish qilasiz.</i>

555
00:35:12,276 --> 00:35:14,119
<i>Lekin, lekin u haqiqatan ham</i>

556
00:35:14,145 --> 00:35:16,352
<i>Unga qaram emas edi
yana shuncha,</i>

557
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:20,123
<i>Menimcha, va haqiqatan ham tarvaqaylab ketgan
va o'z ishini qildi.</i>

558
00:35:20,151 --> 00:35:23,655
HESSE: <i>Hurmatli Rozi, men xohlayman
nima qilayotganimni tushuntiring.</i>

559
00:35:23,688 --> 00:35:28,433
<i>Biz ishlayotgan tashlandiq zavodda,
atrofida juda ko'p keraksiz narsalar bor.</i>

560
00:35:28,459 --> 00:35:32,601
<i>Menda shu oylar davomida,
ko'p keraksiz narsalarni ko'rib chiqdi.</i>

561
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,871
<i>Nihoyat, men uning bir qismini ishlata boshladim.</i>

562
00:35:35,566 --> 00:35:37,546
<i>Men masonit ustida ishlayapman.</i>

563
00:35:37,568 --> 00:35:40,811
<i>Buning uchun men shakllar yarataman
elim va qog'oz bilan.</i>

564
00:35:40,838 --> 00:35:44,809
<i>Ba'zi shakllarda men shnurni yopishtirdim.</i>

565
00:35:44,842 --> 00:35:48,289
O'shanda u <i>Ringaround Arosie</i>ni qilgan.

566
00:35:48,312 --> 00:35:50,292
<i>Chunki men Yusufdan homilador edim.</i>

567
00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:52,722
HESSE: <i>Kecha va bugun</i>

568
00:35:52,750 --> 00:35:55,856
<i>Men uchtasida ishladim
o'lchovli kontraktsiya.</i>

569
00:35:55,887 --> 00:35:57,798
<i>Hali tugallanmagan,
lekin bu g'alati.</i>

570
00:35:59,757 --> 00:36:01,361
<i>Men shunchaki bilmayman.</i>

571
00:36:01,392 --> 00:36:03,303
<i>Eski hikoya. mag'lubiyatga uchragan.</i>

572
00:36:03,861 --> 00:36:05,306
<i>Sabr yo'q.</i>

573
00:36:05,329 --> 00:36:08,139
<i>Yoki ishonchim komil emas
Men nima bo'lishini juda xohlayman.</i>

574
00:36:12,603 --> 00:36:15,447
<i>2 aprel, 1965 yil.</i>

575
00:36:15,473 --> 00:36:20,946
<i>Aziz Sol, men siz bilan gaplashmoqchiman
xayolimda nima borligi haqida.</i>

576
00:36:20,978 --> 00:36:26,553
<i>Men o'zimga ishonamanki, kelish uchun etarli emas
har qanday fikr bilan.</i>

577
00:36:26,584 --> 00:36:30,464
<i>Shunday qilib, men ishlash oralig'ida o'zgarib turaman
chalkashlikda,</i>

578
00:36:30,488 --> 00:36:33,435
<i>yoki chalkashlikda ishlamaslik.</i>

579
00:36:33,457 --> 00:36:35,528
<i>Aslida ishda bo'lmaganda,</i>

580
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,733
<i>Shunga qaramay, men g'oyalar bilan kurashaman.</i>

581
00:36:43,701 --> 00:36:46,341
LEWITT: <i>1965 yil 14 aprel.</i>

582
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:49,078
<i>Hurmatli Eva,
siz har doimgidek ko'rinasiz.</i>

583
00:36:49,106 --> 00:36:50,915
<i>Va siz bo'lsangiz,
uning har bir daqiqasidan nafratlanish.</i>

584
00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:53,247
<i>Qilmang!</i>

585
00:36:53,277 --> 00:36:55,985
<i>Dunyoga "o'zi" deyishni o'rganing
vaqti-vaqti bilan. Sizning to'liq huquqingiz bor.</i>

586
00:36:58,482 --> 00:37:02,430
HESSE: <i>Men qiladigan hech narsa menga bermaydi
bu to'g'ri ekanligini his qilish.</i>

587
00:37:03,454 --> 00:37:05,456
<i>Doimiy umidsizlik va muvaffaqiyatsizlik.</i>

588
00:37:05,489 --> 00:37:08,629
LEWITT: <i>Faqat o'ylashni, tashvishlanishni to'xtating,
yelkangizga qarab,</i>

589
00:37:08,659 --> 00:37:13,074
<i>hayratlanish, shubha qilish, qo'rqish, xafa qilish,
qandaydir oson chiqishga umid qilish, kurash</i>

590
00:37:13,097 --> 00:37:16,943
<i>tushunish, chalkashtirish, kaltaklash, nola qilish,
ingrash, otning shitirlashi, pishig‘i tiqilmoq,</i>

591
00:37:16,968 --> 00:37:19,574
<i>burun yopish, ko'zni qamashtirish,
eshak kovlash, izlash, o'tirish,</i>

592
00:37:19,604 --> 00:37:22,983
<i>maydalash, mazax qilish,
silliqlash, silliqlash, o'zingdan uzoqlash.</i>

593
00:37:23,941 --> 00:37:25,249
<i>To'xtating va shunchaki bajaring.</i>

594
00:37:27,979 --> 00:37:30,118
HESSE: <i>Men chizmalar qildim.</i>

595
00:37:30,147 --> 00:37:31,751
<i>Yuzlab tuyuladi.</i>

596
00:37:31,782 --> 00:37:36,356
<i>Toza, aniq...
Lekin aqldan ozgan, xuddi mashinalar kabi.</i>

597
00:37:36,387 --> 00:37:39,459
<i>Kattaroq va jasurroq,
aniq tasvirlangan.</i>

598
00:37:39,490 --> 00:37:40,992
<i>Haqiqiy bema'nilik.</i>

599
00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:44,131
LEWITT: <i>Bu yaxshi, ajoyib eshitiladi.
Haqiqiy bema'nilik.</i>

600
00:37:44,161 --> 00:37:47,472
<i>Ko'proq qiling. Yana bema'ni,
aqldan ozgan, ko'proq mashinalar.</i>

601
00:37:48,366 --> 00:37:50,607
<i>Ularni ko'paytiring
bema'nilik bilan.</i>

602
00:37:50,635 --> 00:37:52,615
HESSE: <i>Kishi mamnun bo'lishi kerak
jarayon</i>bilan

603
00:37:52,637 --> 00:37:54,776
<i>shuningdek natija.</i>

604
00:37:55,406 --> 00:37:56,908
<i>Men emas.</i>

605
00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:59,717
LEWITT: <i>Xavotirlanishni bas qiling
katta, chuqur narsalar haqida.</i>

606
00:37:59,744 --> 00:38:03,851
<i>Siz ahmoq bo'lishni mashq qilishingiz kerak,
soqov, o‘ylamaydigan, bo‘m-bo‘sh.</i>

607
00:38:04,715 --> 00:38:06,058
<i>Keyin buni qila olasiz.</i>

608
00:38:07,184 --> 00:38:09,095
HESSE: <i>Men hozir ikki kundan keyin o'tiraman</i>

609
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,828
<i>soqov narsa ustida ishlash,
bu uch o'lchovli.</i>

610
00:38:11,856 --> 00:38:15,633
<i>Va men buni davom ettirishim kerak,
lekin men qayerga tegishli ekanligimni bilmayman.</i>

611
00:38:16,727 --> 00:38:18,434
<i>Shunday ekan, men yana voz kechaman.</i>

612
00:38:18,462 --> 00:38:21,204
LEWITT: <i>Siz qilayotgan ishingiz juda yaxshi.</i>

613
00:38:21,232 --> 00:38:24,975
<i>Yomon ish qilishga harakat qiling, eng yomoni siz
o'ylab ko'rish va nima sodir bo'lishini ko'rish mumkin.</i>

614
00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:30,477
<i>Ammo, asosan, dam oling
va lei hamma narsa do'zaxga ketadi.</i>

615
00:38:30,508 --> 00:38:32,249
<i>Siz dunyo uchun javobgar emassiz.</i>

616
00:38:32,276 --> 00:38:34,620
<i>Siz faqat ishingiz uchun javobgarsiz.</i>

617
00:38:34,645 --> 00:38:35,749
<i>Shunday qiling.</i>

618
00:38:39,817 --> 00:38:41,524
HESSE: <i>23-aprel.</i>

619
00:38:41,552 --> 00:38:43,828
<i>Kechqurun ishladim.</i>

620
00:38:43,854 --> 00:38:45,834
<i>Bajarildi</i> Hovuzdagi quloq.

621
00:38:58,135 --> 00:39:00,741
<i>Hurmatli Sol, men sizga rahmat aytmoqchiman
maktubingiz uchun.</i>

622
00:39:01,372 --> 00:39:03,045
<i>Men yana bittasini tugatdim.</i>

623
00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:04,747
<i>Ular yaxshi.</i>

624
00:39:04,775 --> 00:39:06,516
<i>Men uchinchisida ishlayapman.</i>

625
00:39:06,544 --> 00:39:10,287
<i>Ko'p qiyinchiliklar, lekin hech bo'lmaganda
Men turtmoqdaman va bo'laman.</i>

626
00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:11,919
<i>Qasam ichaman.</i>

627
00:39:26,163 --> 00:39:27,665
NEKES: <i>Bu butunlay yangi edi,</i>

628
00:39:27,698 --> 00:39:31,771
<i>ramkadan chiqish
va tasvirning bir qismi bo'lish.</i>

629
00:39:31,802 --> 00:39:34,578
<i>Ba'zi rassomlar ishlagan
ramkadan tashqarida,</i>

630
00:39:34,605 --> 00:39:39,281
lekin deyarli hech kim
Eva kabi juda radikal edi.

631
00:39:44,348 --> 00:39:45,383
SEROTA: <i>Bular unchalik ish emas</i>

632
00:39:45,416 --> 00:39:47,623
<i>siz ilgari ko'rgansiz.</i>

633
00:39:47,651 --> 00:39:51,121
<i>Ular o'zlari uchun yaratilgan, ular
auditoriya uchun yaratilmagan.</i>

634
00:39:51,155 --> 00:39:53,795
Ular xuddi shunday qilingan ...

635
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:58,602
uning kundaliklari tuzilgan,
yoki uning daftarlari qilingan.

636
00:39:58,629 --> 00:39:59,767
<i>U kashf qilmoqda.</i>

637
00:39:59,797 --> 00:40:02,107
<i>Bilasizmi? Aytmoqchimanki,
buni ishda ko'rasiz.</i>

638
00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:05,273
<i>Siz uning harakat qilayotganini ko'rasiz
turli kombinatsiyalar.</i>

639
00:40:40,571 --> 00:40:44,041
Ota-onam juda yaxshi ko'rishardi
Eva va Tomning ishi.

640
00:40:45,209 --> 00:40:46,950
Va ular ko'rsatishni xohlashdi.

641
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,226
<i>Ular shunday deb o'ylashdi:
keling birga bayram qilaylik</i>

642
00:40:51,248 --> 00:40:56,698
<i>"va odamlarga Eva va Tom nima ekanligini ko'rsating
bu yil Kettvigda qilgan edi."</i>

643
00:41:08,299 --> 00:41:11,439
<i>Bu haqiqatan ham voqea edi.</i>

644
00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,541
Oxenfest, biz uni chaqirganimizdek,
ho'kiz partiyalari kabi,

645
00:41:14,572 --> 00:41:19,681
va butun bir ho'kiz qaerda edi
tupurish ustiga qo'ying va keyin qovurilgan.

646
00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:24,259
NEKES: <i>Bu katta ko'rgazma edi.</i>

647
00:41:24,281 --> 00:41:27,228
<i>Tom Doyl yulduz edi,
xalqaro miqyosda tanilgan</i>

648
00:41:27,251 --> 00:41:30,357
<i>Berndagi katta ko'rgazma bilan</i>

649
00:41:30,387 --> 00:41:32,867
<i>va Eva shunchaki yon shou edi</i>

650
00:41:33,858 --> 00:41:37,271
kichik bog 'uyida.

651
00:41:37,294 --> 00:41:39,797
<i>Lekin odamlar
ishi bilan qiziqdilar.</i>

652
00:41:42,066 --> 00:41:43,306
HESSE: <i>Show yaxshi o'tdi.</i>

653
00:41:43,334 --> 00:41:44,938
<i>Men ikkitasini sotdim.</i>

654
00:41:44,969 --> 00:41:49,042
<i>Men 6-avgustni ham grafikda ko'rsataman
Kunsthalle, Dyusseldorf</i>dagi xona

655
00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:53,220
PETZINGER:
<i>U Germaniyaga rassom sifatida kelgan.</i>

656
00:41:53,244 --> 00:41:56,521
<i>Yangi ta'sirlar dunyosida bo'lish</i>

657
00:41:56,547 --> 00:42:02,395
yaratishga yordam berdi
uning yangi san'at olami,

658
00:42:02,419 --> 00:42:05,593
Gap nima edi
Qaytish yo'q, shundaymi?

659
00:42:05,623 --> 00:42:07,625
Endi u haykaltarosh edi.

660
00:42:07,658 --> 00:42:09,638
(NOQIYAT SUHBAT)

661
00:42:11,896 --> 00:42:15,343
CHARASH: <i>Eva Germaniyada edi
deyarli butun yil</i>

662
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:18,870
<i>u ketishidan oldin
uning kelib chiqishini aniqlash uchun.</i>

663
00:42:18,903 --> 00:42:21,110
<i>Otam bor edi
unga ma'lumot berib,</i>

664
00:42:21,138 --> 00:42:24,142
<i>ismlar va manzillar,
va u ularni qidirdi.</i>

665
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,525
(POYZDDA CHUGGING)

666
00:42:31,415 --> 00:42:34,953
<i>U Hamelnga bordi,
onam qaerda tug'ilgan.</i>

667
00:42:34,985 --> 00:42:38,933
HESSE: <i>Biz Hamelnga poyezdda bordik,
darhol uy topildi.</i>

668
00:42:39,924 --> 00:42:42,165
<i>Juda g'alati.</i>

669
00:42:42,192 --> 00:42:46,834
<i>Xonim Vulf, qo'shni,
onaning maktabdagi ikki do'sti.</i>

670
00:42:46,864 --> 00:42:50,835
<i>Barcha ishchilarga tashrif buyurish,
oldingi, bobomning.</i>

671
00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:58,580
<i>Bu g'alati tajriba,
maxfiy topshiriq kabi,</i>

672
00:42:59,777 --> 00:43:02,883
<i>o'tmishni izlayotgan yangi avlod.</i>

673
00:43:02,913 --> 00:43:07,293
<i>Men hech narsani bilmayman
mening oilam, bobom va buvim.</i>

674
00:43:10,054 --> 00:43:11,089
<i>Gamburgga.</i>

675
00:43:12,156 --> 00:43:13,464
<i>Isestrassega bordi.</i>

676
00:43:14,358 --> 00:43:16,133
<i>Yig'ladi.</i>

677
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,972
CHARASH: <i>U joyga ketdi
biz yashagan joy,</i>

678
00:43:19,997 --> 00:43:22,910
<i>va orqaga qaytarildi
eshik oldida kimdir tomonidan,</i>

679
00:43:22,933 --> 00:43:24,537
<i>bu uning uchun juda qattiq edi.</i>

680
00:43:25,803 --> 00:43:27,749
JOHANN: <i>Uni ichkariga kiritmaslik uchun,
uyini ko'rsin,</i>

681
00:43:27,771 --> 00:43:29,307
<i>Menimcha, bu juda dahshatli edi.</i>

682
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:34,756
Shunday qilib, faqat retrospektiv tarzda meni olib kelishi mumkin
qanchalik qiyinligini tushunish uchun

683
00:43:34,778 --> 00:43:36,780
bu uning uchun bo'lsa kerak
uning o'tmishiga yana duch kelish.

684
00:43:41,552 --> 00:43:45,329
HESSE: <i>Hurmatli Sol,
faqat H va H.</i>dan qaytdi

685
00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:48,866
<i>Gamburgda tug'ilgan joyimga tashrif buyurdim,</i>

686
00:43:48,892 --> 00:43:50,803
<i>Gamelnda, onamning uyi.</i>

687
00:43:52,696 --> 00:43:53,936
<i>Juda qiyin sahna.</i>

688
00:43:54,765 --> 00:43:56,574
<i>Atrofdagi ko'z yoshlar,</i>

689
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,409
<i>va o'sha davrlar haqida ko'p gapiriladi</i>

690
00:43:58,435 --> 00:44:00,506
<i>hech kim bilmaganda
nima bo'layotgan edi.</i>

691
00:44:02,006 --> 00:44:04,509
<i>Men o'tmishdagi arvoh edim.</i>

692
00:44:04,541 --> 00:44:06,885
<i>Ularning aybi va hammasi
was just pouring out.</i>

693
00:44:08,012 --> 00:44:09,855
<i>On to better times and doings.</i>

694
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,915
(CHAYQLAR CHIRLADI)

695
00:44:10,948 --> 00:44:12,985
<i>Yes, Sol, we are coming home.</i>

696
00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:24,995
(TRAFIK TO'VVOSI)

697
00:44:34,104 --> 00:44:39,019
That trip to Germany, with all
the hazards, was empowering.

698
00:44:40,778 --> 00:44:44,954
Menimcha, u qaytib keldi
juda, juda mamnun

699
00:44:46,016 --> 00:44:48,257
that she really had taken off.

700
00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:53,763
HESSE: <i>September 30th.
Almost one complete in the U.S.</i>

701
00:45:03,033 --> 00:45:05,206
<i>Dear Arnhard, dear Isa,</i>

702
00:45:05,235 --> 00:45:08,375
<i>biz qattiq ishlayapmiz
and also very busy socially.</i>

703
00:45:09,807 --> 00:45:12,754
<i>Kettvigdagi yil,
aziz Arnhard, ko'proq edi,</i>

704
00:45:12,776 --> 00:45:15,086
<i>ba'zilariga qaraganda ko'proq
ikkalamizga yordam bering.</i>

705
00:45:16,513 --> 00:45:19,722
<i>Biz hozir qilayotgan ish
qancha o'sganimizni ko'rsatadi</i>

706
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:23,061
<i>va tufayli rivojlangan
sen bizga bergan go'zal yil.</i>

707
00:45:25,522 --> 00:45:26,796
LIPPARD: </i>Eva Germaniyaga borganida,</i>

708
00:45:26,824 --> 00:45:29,202
<i>u bir xil edi
abstraktdan keyingi ekspressionist.</i>

709
00:45:29,226 --> 00:45:32,605
<i>U qaytib kelganida,
u syurrealistning kulgili turi edi.</i>

710
00:45:32,629 --> 00:45:35,940
<i>Germaniyadagi ish
uni ozod qilgani aniq.</i>

711
00:45:35,966 --> 00:45:37,843
<i>Va keyin u qaytib keldi,
va o'ylaymanki, o'sha paytda</i>

712
00:45:37,868 --> 00:45:40,712
<i>u qandaydir pastga tushdi
minimalizmning ta'siri.</i>

713
00:45:40,738 --> 00:45:42,081
<i>Hech kim deb o'ylamayman
uni xafa qildi</i>

714
00:45:42,106 --> 00:45:44,313
<i>g'alati kichik narsalardan
u Germaniyada qilardi,</i>

715
00:45:44,341 --> 00:45:46,651
<i>lekin san'at olami ketayotgan edi
boshqa yo'nalishda</i>

716
00:45:46,677 --> 00:45:48,782
<i>va u intuitiv ravishda buni qabul qildi.</i>

717
00:46:00,357 --> 00:46:01,597
<i>Minimalizm paydo bo'lganida,</i>

718
00:46:01,625 --> 00:46:04,037
butunlay yangi dunyo bor edi.

719
00:46:04,061 --> 00:46:09,602
<i>Bilasizmi, na egri chiziq, na rang,
hech narsa. Faqat borligi.</i>

720
00:46:09,633 --> 00:46:11,613
<i>Bu borligi haqida ko'p narsa edi.</i>

721
00:46:11,635 --> 00:46:15,378
Odamlar: “Siz minimalistsiz.
Bu nimani anglatadi?"

722
00:46:15,405 --> 00:46:19,751
Va men shunchaki qutulishim kerakligini aytdim
juda ko'p keraksiz axlat

723
00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:21,916
va darhol pastga tushing
bir nechta asosiy narsalarga.

724
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,654
Menimcha, minimalizm paydo bo'ldi
mavhum ekspressionizm.

725
00:46:26,683 --> 00:46:30,096
Bu qandaydir ohangni pasaytirdi
cho'tkaning zarbasi.

726
00:46:31,822 --> 00:46:34,632
<i>Shu bilan birga,
boshqa an'ana bor edi,</i>

727
00:46:34,658 --> 00:46:37,605
<i>ishlari ko'proq bo'lgan odamlar
shaxsiy va yanada shiddatli,</i>

728
00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:39,301
<i>va balki ko'proq surrealist.</i>

729
00:46:41,064 --> 00:46:44,671
Albatta, Eva o'tish davrining shaxsi edi,
minimalistdan,

730
00:46:44,701 --> 00:46:48,410
uning do'stlari minimalist edi,
but she was very personal.

731
00:46:48,438 --> 00:46:50,543
<i>Ko'p narsa bor edi
of eroticism in her work.</i>

732
00:46:50,574 --> 00:46:55,455
<i>It was so warm and human
va ruhga to'la.</i>

733
00:46:55,479 --> 00:46:58,050
HESSE: <i>I feel so strongly
bu yagona san'at</i>

734
00:46:58,081 --> 00:47:01,893
<i>is the art of the artist personally.</i>

735
00:47:01,919 --> 00:47:05,833
<i>My interest is in solely
o'z yo'limni topish.</i>

736
00:47:05,856 --> 00:47:08,598
<i>I don't mind being miles
boshqalardan.</i>

737
00:47:10,561 --> 00:47:13,838
She did talk a great deal
about eccentricity and absurdity,

738
00:47:13,864 --> 00:47:18,745
alohida absurdlik,
that her life had been absurd,

739
00:47:18,769 --> 00:47:20,771
<i>her life at present was absurd,</i>

740
00:47:20,804 --> 00:47:24,115
<i>va u xohladi
buni ishga kiritish uchun.</i>

741
00:47:25,576 --> 00:47:27,419
HOLT: <i>Men o'sha devorni eslayman</i>

742
00:47:27,444 --> 00:47:30,618
<i>Uning hammasi qaerda edi
turli qismlar osilgan.</i>

743
00:47:30,647 --> 00:47:34,754
<i>Men uning birini o'zgartirayotganini ko'rdim
uzun, kolbasa bo'laklari.</i>

744
00:47:34,785 --> 00:47:39,734
<i>Va u juda baland edi
uning kulgililigi haqida.</i>

745
00:47:39,756 --> 00:47:45,832
<i>Uning hayoti juda to'la edi
sinxron g'alatiliklar,</i>

746
00:47:45,863 --> 00:47:50,005
va shunday ma'no borki,
yaxshi, biz shunchaki nazorat qilmaymiz.

747
00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:52,980
<i>Koinot iplarni tortmoqda</i>

748
00:47:53,003 --> 00:47:57,452
<i>va siz ham shunday bo'lishingiz mumkin
orqaga turing va shunchaki zavqlaning.</i>

749
00:47:57,474 --> 00:48:00,421
LIPPARD: <i>Men o'sha davrga qarayman
Eva ishi bilan va o'ylab ko'ring,</i>

750
00:48:00,444 --> 00:48:02,890
<i>"Oh, bu feministik san'atning so'zboshisi edi."</i>

751
00:48:04,381 --> 00:48:07,624
HESSE: <i>Albatta men katta bo'ldim
ichimda.</i>

752
00:48:07,651 --> 00:48:10,564
<i>O'ylaymanki, men hozir qo'ng'iroq qilyapman
deyarli barchasi Tom bilan bog'liq.</i>

753
00:48:11,755 --> 00:48:15,066
DOYLE: <i>Bizda ikkita loft bor edi
Bowery</i>da

754
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,136
<i>Biz 134-da yashardik</i>

755
00:48:19,162 --> 00:48:23,770
<i>va mening studiyam 135 Boweryda edi,
ko'chaning ro'parasida.</i>

756
00:48:24,868 --> 00:48:26,643
Men... Men doim ishlaganman.

757
00:48:27,504 --> 00:48:28,676
(JAZZ MUSIQASI ISHLASH)

758
00:48:28,705 --> 00:48:29,877
(TRAFIK shovqinlari)

759
00:48:31,241 --> 00:48:33,915
HESSE:
<i>Hozir soat 12:30</i>

760
00:48:33,944 --> 00:48:39,189
<i>Men yolg'izman, Tom hech qachon
endi men bilan.</i>

761
00:48:39,216 --> 00:48:41,992
<i>Har doimgidek davom etadi
va atrofida yuguradi.</i>

762
00:48:43,053 --> 00:48:45,090
<i>U ochilishlarga boradi
va partiyalar.</i>

763
00:48:45,122 --> 00:48:47,796
<i>Lekin bu narsalar
u men bilan hech qachon qatnashmaydi.</i>

764
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,003
DOYLE: <i>U juda qiyin edi,
ko'p jihatdan bilasiz.</i>

765
00:48:52,029 --> 00:48:54,066
<i>Men yagona yomon odam emas edim
hamma narsa haqida.</i>

766
00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:58,671
U xuddi shunday edi
juda yuqori texnik xizmat, bilasizmi?

767
00:49:01,104 --> 00:49:04,574
<i>Rojdestvo keldi va men sotib oldim
bu go'zal quvur.</i>

768
00:49:05,575 --> 00:49:08,784
<i>Men uyga keldim va Eva dedi:</i>

769
00:49:08,812 --> 00:49:11,793
— Qanchaga tushdi?
“35 dollar”, dedim.

770
00:49:11,815 --> 00:49:13,351
U: “Chiq”, dedi.

771
00:49:14,718 --> 00:49:17,756
Va bu so'zlar edi
Men kutgan edim va ketdim.

772
00:49:19,222 --> 00:49:20,462
HESSE: <i>Hammasi tugadi.</i>

773
00:49:21,224 --> 00:49:22,362
<i>Tom ketdi.</i>

774
00:49:23,527 --> 00:49:24,631
<i>U ajrashmoqchi.</i>

775
00:49:26,096 --> 00:49:28,235
<i>Men hammasini aralashtirib yubordim. yolvordi.</i>

776
00:49:28,999 --> 00:49:31,275
<i>U befarq.</i>

777
00:49:31,301 --> 00:49:35,147
<i>Men charchadim va yana charchadim
va foydalanilgan va foydalanilgan.</i>

778
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,677
<i>Bu bolalarcha Eva</i>

779
00:49:38,709 --> 00:49:42,680
<i> perili bo'lgan
uning o'tmishdagi izolyatsiyasi va yolg'izligi bilan.</i>

780
00:49:42,713 --> 00:49:45,887
<i>Tashlab ketilgan
kasal bo'lgan onasi</i> tomonidan

781
00:49:45,916 --> 00:49:49,090
<i>va shuning uchun qila olmaydi
boshqacha qilgan bo'lsa.</i>

782
00:49:55,692 --> 00:49:56,727
CHARASH: <i>Bu qiyin.</i>

783
00:49:58,028 --> 00:50:01,498
Onam nima edi
biz bugun bipolyar deb ataymiz.

784
00:50:04,801 --> 00:50:07,304
HESSE:
<i>Onam u erda edi, lekin u erda emas.</i>

785
00:50:08,605 --> 00:50:11,415
<i>U erda, lekin u erda emas.</i>

786
00:50:11,441 --> 00:50:13,921
CHARASH: <i>Onam juda ko'p edi
qiyin vaqt moslashish.</i>

787
00:50:13,944 --> 00:50:17,187
Va keyin boshiga keldi
ma'lum bir nuqtada,

788
00:50:17,214 --> 00:50:22,163
<i>va keyin u o'zini shunday his qildi
endi bizga g'amxo'rlik qila olmadi va u ketdi.</i>

789
00:50:24,621 --> 00:50:26,623
HESSE:
<i>Meni uydan uyga ko'chirishdi,</i>

790
00:50:26,656 --> 00:50:28,431
<i>va ilgari qo'rqib ketardi.</i>

791
00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:31,334
CHARASH:
<i>Bu urushning oxiri edi.</i>

792
00:50:31,361 --> 00:50:34,570
<i>Va hamma vaqt, otam
olish</i> ustida ishlagan edi

793
00:50:34,598 --> 00:50:37,408
<i>onamning ota-onasi
Germaniyadan.</i>

794
00:50:37,434 --> 00:50:39,345
<i>Ammo hammasi barbod bo'ldi.</i>

795
00:50:39,369 --> 00:50:41,872
<i>Va qachon onam
bildirishnoma</i>ni oldi

796
00:50:41,905 --> 00:50:47,321
<i>uning ota-onasini olib ketishgan
kontslager va ular vafot etgan edi,</i>

797
00:50:47,344 --> 00:50:50,951
u tomdan sakrab tushdi.

798
00:50:55,419 --> 00:50:57,626
<i>Otam bizga aytmadi.</i>

799
00:50:57,654 --> 00:50:59,395
<i>Bu gazetalarda bor edi,</i>

800
00:50:59,423 --> 00:51:02,632
<i>va bolalar masxara qilishdi
maktabdagi singlim,</i>

801
00:51:02,659 --> 00:51:04,332
<i>va u maktabga borishdan bosh tortdi.</i>

802
00:51:07,998 --> 00:51:12,071
HESSE: <i>Menda juda qo'rquv bor edi,
aql bovar qilmaydigan qo'rquv.</i>

803
00:51:12,102 --> 00:51:15,948
<i>Men dadamga ko'rpalarimni solib qo'yishni buyurgandim
to'shagimga mahkam tiqilib,</i>

804
00:51:15,972 --> 00:51:19,510
<i>uning pastki qismida panjaralari bor edi,
kechalari men ushlab turaman.</i>

805
00:51:19,543 --> 00:51:20,681
<i>Va u menga aytishi kerak edi</i>

806
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:23,316
<i>u olish uchun u erda bo'lardi
ertalab menga g'amxo'rlik qiling.</i>

807
00:51:24,981 --> 00:51:27,587
CHARASH: <i>Eva o'n yoshda edi
onam vafot etdi, aniq.</i>

808
00:51:27,617 --> 00:51:30,154
Aynan shunday
uning tug'ilgan vaqti.

809
00:51:30,187 --> 00:51:33,225
Va shuning uchun yanvar oyi edi
uning uchun yilning eng yomon oyi.

810
00:51:39,396 --> 00:51:43,435
<i>Eva xafa bo'lishda davom etdi
onam vafot etgandan keyingi yillar</i>

811
00:51:43,467 --> 00:51:47,381
<i>Va o'gay onamning iltimosiga binoan,
ular terapevt</i>ga murojaat qilishdi

812
00:51:47,404 --> 00:51:49,975
<i>va Eva boshladi
doktor Helene Papanek</i>ni ko'rish uchun

813
00:51:51,875 --> 00:51:53,548
HESSE: <i>Iltimos, doktor Papanek.</i>

814
00:51:54,344 --> 00:51:56,221
<i>Siz menga yordam berishingiz kerak.</i>

815
00:51:56,246 --> 00:51:58,283
<i>Yoki tez orada
Men onam bilan birga bo'laman.</i>

816
00:51:59,516 --> 00:52:02,554
<i>Men siz bilan gaplashaman. Men hammasini aytib beraman.</i>

817
00:52:02,586 --> 00:52:03,564
<i>Umid qilamanki, men qila olaman.</i>

818
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:09,264
SUSSMAN: <i>U juda qiynalardi
vaziyatlardan</i>

819
00:52:09,292 --> 00:52:10,930
<i>uning bolaligidan</i>

820
00:52:10,961 --> 00:52:15,501
<i>va bu terapiya edi
uning uchun mutlaqo zarur.</i>

821
00:52:21,538 --> 00:52:23,643
HESSE: <i>Men qila olmayman
yolg'izlikka qarshi turish,</i>

822
00:52:23,673 --> 00:52:26,153
<i>chunki u tashlab ketishni anglatadi.</i>

823
00:52:27,144 --> 00:52:28,748
Jigarrang:
<i>U Tomdan mamnun emas edi,</i>

824
00:52:28,778 --> 00:52:31,281
<i>va usiz u baxtli emas edi.</i>

825
00:52:31,314 --> 00:52:33,225
Ammo keyin u juda ko'p ishladi

826
00:52:33,683 --> 00:52:34,684
va bu

827
00:52:35,919 --> 00:52:40,390
uning baxtsizligini biroz yashirdi.

828
00:52:42,492 --> 00:52:44,631
HESSE: <i>Mening barcha ulushlarim ishimda.</i>

829
00:52:45,462 --> 00:52:47,135
<i>Men hamma narsadan voz kechdim.</i>

830
00:52:51,868 --> 00:52:54,678
<i>Men o'zimni san'atkor deb his qilyapman,</i>

831
00:52:54,704 --> 00:52:56,274
<i>va eng yaxshilaridan biri.</i>

832
00:52:57,374 --> 00:52:58,751
<i>Men chin dildan.</i>

833
00:53:10,253 --> 00:53:13,325
GOLDMAN: <i>Uning maqsadining kuchi</i>

834
00:53:13,356 --> 00:53:16,860
<i> nima bo'lganidan ko'ra muhimroq edi
uning hayotida davom etmoqda.</i>

835
00:53:18,094 --> 00:53:20,335
HESSE: <i>Bugun ikkita asar tugatdi.</i>

836
00:53:20,363 --> 00:53:22,502
<i>Men qattiq mehnat qildim.</i>

837
00:53:22,532 --> 00:53:25,445
GOLDMAN: <i>U sudralib yurardi
ba'zan polda,</i>

838
00:53:25,468 --> 00:53:27,470
<i>Tom biznesi tufayli</i>

839
00:53:27,504 --> 00:53:29,279
<i>va san'at hali ham davom etdi.</i>

840
00:53:32,175 --> 00:53:34,712
HESSE: <i>Hurmatli Iso, aziz Arnxard.</i>

841
00:53:34,744 --> 00:53:37,190
<i>Oxirgi oylar
juda qiyin bo'lgan.</i>

842
00:53:38,048 --> 00:53:39,959
<i>Vaziyatlar sodir bo'layotgani juda achinarli.</i>

843
00:53:39,983 --> 00:53:42,862
<i>Tom va men ajralganmiz.</i>

844
00:53:42,886 --> 00:53:47,266
<i>Shu bilan birga, juda ko'p narsa bor
Ishimizda ikkalamiz uchun ham sodir bo'ldi.</i>

845
00:53:47,290 --> 00:53:51,295
<i>Ikkalamizning ham ko'rgazmalari bor
xuddi shu kuni kechqurun, 1 mart</i>

846
00:54:02,672 --> 00:54:06,210
<i>Men u yerga Grem galereyasiga bordim
u birinchi marta ko'rsatganida,</i>

847
00:54:06,243 --> 00:54:09,383
<i>Chunki men juda xohlardim
u nima qilayotganini ko'rish uchun.</i>

848
00:54:09,412 --> 00:54:10,914
<i>Va men endigina erga tushdim.</i>

849
00:54:22,292 --> 00:54:24,533
<i>U bu ajoyib ishni qildi,</i>
Qoʻying.

850
00:54:25,295 --> 00:54:27,775
<i>Bu juda jasur edi.</i>

851
00:54:27,797 --> 00:54:30,073
<i>Bu shunday sakrash edi
ish uchun.</i>

852
00:54:34,571 --> 00:54:37,552
<i>Va bu eng zo'rlaridan biri
o'sha davr haykallari</i>

853
00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:39,952
<i>Bu aql bovar qilmaydigan demoqchiman.</i>

854
00:54:41,244 --> 00:54:42,848
Bu rasm emas.

855
00:54:42,879 --> 00:54:44,358
Bu haykal emas.

856
00:54:44,914 --> 00:54:47,758
Bu shunchaki san'at.

857
00:54:47,784 --> 00:54:51,288
HESSE: Go'ng qo'yish <i>eng muhimi
men aytgan erta bayonot.</i>

858
00:54:51,321 --> 00:54:54,859
<i>Bu birinchi marta edi
absurdlik haqidagi fikrim,</i>

859
00:54:54,891 --> 00:54:56,893
<i>ekstremal tuyg'u
orqali keldi.</i>

860
00:54:57,894 --> 00:54:59,464
U choyshablardan foydalangan

861
00:55:00,630 --> 00:55:02,268
uyimdan.

862
00:55:02,299 --> 00:55:05,337
<i>U dedi: “Rozi, senda bormi?
foydalanishim mumkin bo'lgan varaqlar?</i>

863
00:55:05,935 --> 00:55:07,642
<i>"Afzal ko'k".</i>

864
00:55:07,671 --> 00:55:09,582
Men: “Albatta, choyshablarni oling”, dedim.

865
00:55:09,606 --> 00:55:12,018
<i>Va u ularni o'rab oldi,</i>

866
00:55:12,042 --> 00:55:17,424
<i>va bir turi bor edi
donishmandga o'xshash, ruhiy tuyg'u</i>

867
00:55:17,447 --> 00:55:19,927
<i>Kimdir bo'sh joydan shu tarzda foydalanadi.</i>

868
00:55:21,951 --> 00:55:24,795
Va men har doim... qachon ko'rsam,
“Oh, bu mening choyshablarim”, deyman.

869
00:55:24,821 --> 00:55:25,799
(KULAYDI)

870
00:55:27,524 --> 00:55:29,526
HESSE:
<i>Hammasi kulgili.</i>

871
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,403
<i>Bu eng kulgili
Men tuzgan tuzilma,</i>

872
00:55:32,429 --> 00:55:34,636
<i>va shuning uchun bu juda yaxshi.</i>

873
00:55:37,634 --> 00:55:40,274
CHARASH:
<i>Otam o'sha galereyaga kelgan.</i>

874
00:55:40,303 --> 00:55:44,217
<i>U juda qattiqqo'l edi
va juda baxtsiz.</i>

875
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:48,154
<i>Otamni bilar ekan, u g'ururlanishi kerak edi
ko'rgazmada bo'lish uchun Eva.</i>

876
00:55:48,178 --> 00:55:50,954
<i>Lekin menimcha, u shunchaki edi
san'at</i>bilan chalkashtirib yubordi

877
00:55:51,981 --> 00:55:53,517
<i>va buni tushunmadim.</i>

878
00:56:02,592 --> 00:56:05,903
Men Evani telbalarcha sevib qolgandim.

879
00:56:05,929 --> 00:56:10,309
Va keyin bilib oldimki, a
ko'p yigitlar Evani telbalarcha sevib qolishdi.

880
00:56:11,868 --> 00:56:14,075
<i>U juda jo'shqin edi.</i>

881
00:56:14,104 --> 00:56:18,143
<i>Men qanchalik pravoslav ekanligini bilmayman
yoki Eva oilasini mashq qilish,</i>

882
00:56:18,174 --> 00:56:20,313
<i>lekin uning yahudiyligi aniq edi.</i>

883
00:56:21,211 --> 00:56:24,249
Bu ma'naviyat

884
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,988
<i>va menimcha, bu o'zini namoyon qildi
Eva ijodida.</i>

885
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,972
HONIG: <i>U qilardi
bu doiralar to'rlarda.</i>

886
00:56:40,997 --> 00:56:45,139
<i>Va men unga bu qog'ozni berdim
Bu loyga asoslangan edi,</i>

887
00:56:45,168 --> 00:56:48,672
va u uni yaxshi ko'rardi, chunki u ho'l edi
siyoh ma'lum bir tarzda yuqoriga ko'tariladi.

888
00:56:54,444 --> 00:56:58,517
Ular ajoyib edi
va men hech qachon unutganim yo'q.

889
00:56:58,548 --> 00:57:02,360
<i>Ular menga nimadir deyishdi
ishimda xohlagan narsam.</i>

890
00:57:09,492 --> 00:57:14,032
HESSE: <i>Ob-havo 103 dan oʻzgardi
107 daraja Farengeyt</i>

891
00:57:14,063 --> 00:57:16,873
<i>Sol va men ketdik
Zamonaviy va filmlarga.</i>

892
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:20,347
WAPNER: <i>Juda kuchli edi
Sol va Eva o'rtasidagi munosabatlar.</i>

893
00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:21,815
<i>Ularning umumiy jihatlari juda ko'p edi</i>

894
00:57:21,838 --> 00:57:23,442
<i>va bir-birlariga juda g'amxo'rlik qilishdi.</i>

895
00:57:23,473 --> 00:57:25,214
Va u menga shunday dedi:

896
00:57:25,241 --> 00:57:30,247
“Agar men Solni seva olsam yaxshi bo'lardi
va agar biz birga bo'la olsak."

897
00:57:33,116 --> 00:57:36,222
HESSE: <i> Kunlar o'tdi
eng chidab bo'lmas issiqlik bilan.</i>

898
00:57:36,252 --> 00:57:37,788
<i>Yo'l berishdan qo'rqaman.</i>

899
00:57:38,655 --> 00:57:40,464
<i>Solsiz men qilardim.</i>

900
00:57:41,658 --> 00:57:44,605
BROWN: <i>U uni yaxshi ko'rardi
va hech qachon charchamasdi</i>

901
00:57:44,627 --> 00:57:48,734
<i>uni erkalash
va unga mehribon bo'lish</i>

902
00:57:48,765 --> 00:57:53,077
<i>va ilhom manbai bo'lish.</i>

903
00:57:53,102 --> 00:57:55,275
ANDRE: <i>Eva sevgi edi
Sol LeWitt hayoti haqida.</i>

904
00:57:56,673 --> 00:57:59,279
<i>Va Eva Solni yaxshi ko'rardi.</i>

905
00:57:59,309 --> 00:58:00,549
Men bir marta Evadan so'radim, dedim:

906
00:58:00,577 --> 00:58:03,217
“Bilasizmi, Sol ajoyib yigit.

907
00:58:03,246 --> 00:58:07,752
"U ajoyib rassom va sizni yaxshi ko'radi
va siz uni sevasiz.

908
00:58:07,784 --> 00:58:09,559
"Qanday qilib siz hech qachon
birgami?"

909
00:58:09,586 --> 00:58:12,396
Va u dedi:
— Siz ukangiz bilan yotmaysiz,

910
00:58:14,057 --> 00:58:15,866
bu men uchun juda ta'sirli edi.

911
00:58:17,227 --> 00:58:20,106
Va men tushundim,
bilasizmi, u nimani nazarda tutgan.

912
00:58:23,132 --> 00:58:24,509
HESSE: <i>Men qotib qoldim.</i>

913
00:58:25,802 --> 00:58:27,076
<i>Dadam vafot etdi.</i>

914
00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:35,512
CHARASH: <i>Mening otam Yevropada edi.</i>

915
00:58:35,545 --> 00:58:37,582
<i>U kasal bo'lib vafot etdi.</i>

916
00:58:37,614 --> 00:58:39,594
Bu ikkimiz uchun dahshatli tush edi.

917
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:45,564
HESSE: <i>Sol va men yurdik
Bugun Nyu-York shahri.</i>

918
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,025
<i>Men qila oladigan hech narsa yo'q.</i>

919
00:58:49,492 --> 00:58:51,904
CHARASH: <i>Eva vayron bo'ldi
otamning vafoti bilan,</i>

920
00:58:51,928 --> 00:58:54,101
<i>butunlay vayron.</i>

921
00:58:54,130 --> 00:58:57,475
Va menimcha, ularniki edi
o'sha paytda haqiqiy sevgi munosabatlari.

922
00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,537
Bu uning Evachen edi.

923
00:59:00,737 --> 00:59:02,944
HESSE: <i>Men baland turdim
otamning dafn marosimida.</i>

924
00:59:03,806 --> 00:59:06,013
<i>Ichkarida katta edim,</i>

925
00:59:06,042 --> 00:59:07,749
<i>qo'rqqan, nochor bola emas.</i>

926
00:59:09,145 --> 00:59:10,647
<i>Men otamni sevardim.</i>

927
00:59:11,347 --> 00:59:12,325
<i>Ko'rsatdi.</i>

928
00:59:14,050 --> 00:59:15,154
<i>Dada...</i>

929
00:59:15,184 --> 00:59:17,562
<i>Men uchun qilgan kitoblaringiz
sen haqingdagi fikrlarim.</i>

930
00:59:20,023 --> 00:59:24,028
<i>Bilishingizni istardim
ko'rsatuvlar va maqolalar haqida.</i>

931
00:59:24,060 --> 00:59:25,801
<i>Siz juda xursand bo'lardingiz</i>

932
00:59:25,828 --> 00:59:29,401
<i>va men uchun mag'rur va kamroq qo'rqaman.</i>

933
00:59:29,432 --> 00:59:31,469
<i>Biz har doim juda qo'rqardik,
siz va men.</i>

934
00:59:32,402 --> 00:59:33,745
<i>Biz buni hatto baham ko'rdik.</i>

935
00:59:35,238 --> 00:59:38,344
WILLIAM: <i>Iltimos, doimo tushunib oling,
aziz Evachen,</i>

936
00:59:39,509 --> 00:59:41,614
<i>siz hech qachon yolg'iz qolmaysiz.</i>

937
00:59:42,545 --> 00:59:46,891
<i>Unutmang,
Men sizni juda yaxshi ko'raman.</i>

938
00:59:46,916 --> 00:59:50,329
<i>Va agar siz etarlicha kuchli bo'lsangiz
meni juda xursand qilish uchun,</i>

939
00:59:51,287 --> 00:59:53,597
<i>iltimos, baxtli bo'lishga harakat qiling.</i>

940
00:59:54,457 --> 00:59:55,492
<i>Dada.</i>

941
00:59:57,527 --> 01:00:01,498
HESSE: <i>Men endi ko'proq ishlashim kerak
kuchli bo'lmoq, sog' bo'l.</i>

942
01:00:02,332 --> 01:00:04,334
<i>Ha, baxtli bo'ling.</i>

943
01:00:08,204 --> 01:00:09,774
<i>Ishlay boshladi.</i>

944
01:00:09,806 --> 01:00:11,513
<i>Qiyin.</i>

945
01:00:11,541 --> 01:00:14,545
<i>Lekin men qanchalik muhimligini bilaman
endi men uchun,</i>

946
01:00:14,577 --> 01:00:18,286
<i>va bu deyarli yolg'iz
meni yana baland turishga majbur qila oladi.</i>

947
01:00:25,355 --> 01:00:26,459
<i>Bajarildi</i> Laokun.

948
01:00:27,423 --> 01:00:29,801
<i>Hamma joyda simlar.</i>

949
01:00:29,826 --> 01:00:33,364
BROWN: <i>U bu so'zni ishlatgan
har doim "buni qilish".</i>

950
01:00:33,396 --> 01:00:35,842
U buni amalga oshirishga juda berilib ketdi.

951
01:00:39,202 --> 01:00:42,376
HESSE: <i>Lyusi men qilishimni xohlaydi
ko'rsatish uchun katta parcha.</i>

952
01:00:42,405 --> 01:00:43,975
<i>Men qilmoqchi bo'lgan hamma narsa.</i>

953
01:00:44,641 --> 01:00:45,949
<i>Men hayajondaman.</i>

954
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:50,354
LIPPARD: <i>Men</i> nomli shou ko'rsatayotgan edim
Eksantrik abstraktsiya.

955
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:55,056
<i>Va men buni qandaydir tarzda o'yladim
Eva ishi uchun vosita turi.</i>

956
01:00:55,084 --> 01:00:59,396
<i>Men nimadir qidirayotgan edim
bu sovuq, qattiq minimalizm emas edi.</i>

957
01:00:59,422 --> 01:01:01,561
<i>Men shunchaki boshqa narsani xohlardim.</i>

958
01:01:01,591 --> 01:01:05,835
<i>Va keyin angladim
bu feministik yoki ayol narsa edi.</i>

959
01:01:05,862 --> 01:01:08,536
<i>Men bu qattiq to'rlarni ko'rmoqchi edim
bir oz buzildi</i>

960
01:01:08,564 --> 01:01:11,670
<i>va aralashdi,
va Eva, albatta, shunday qilardi.</i>

961
01:01:42,031 --> 01:01:45,376
PETZINGER: <i>Ko'rgazmada</i>
Eksantrik abstraktsiya,

962
01:01:45,401 --> 01:01:48,780
<i>Eva ko'rsatdi</i>
Metronomik tartibsizlik.

963
01:01:50,306 --> 01:01:52,752
<i>Va u erda ajoyib syurpriz bo'ldi.</i>

964
01:01:53,876 --> 01:01:58,018
Bu uning minimalizmi edi.

965
01:01:58,047 --> 01:02:03,087
<i>Sizda to'rtburchaklar bor,
buyurtma qilingan tizimlar.</i>

966
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:07,465
<i>Sizda bu simlarning tartibsizligi bor.</i>

967
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:12,439
Va bu qarama-qarshilik
uning ishida juda muhim narsa.

968
01:02:13,663 --> 01:02:16,371
SUSSMAN: <i>U o'rganishga muvaffaq bo'ldi</i>

969
01:02:16,399 --> 01:02:18,743
<i>barcha darslar
minimalistlar</i>dan

970
01:02:18,768 --> 01:02:22,079
<i>va shunga qaramay, uni o'z hududiga olib boring,</i>

971
01:02:22,105 --> 01:02:25,109
<i>qaerda absurdlik va hazil masalalari</i>

972
01:02:25,942 --> 01:02:28,218
<i>va qo'pollik kirib keldi.</i>

973
01:02:30,113 --> 01:02:32,150
LIPPARD: <i>Show bir bor
ma'lum miqdorda e'tibor</i>

974
01:02:32,181 --> 01:02:34,684
<i>va Xilton Kramer haqida yozgan
uni</i>Nyu-York Tayms gazetasida.

975
01:02:35,985 --> 01:02:39,194
WAPNER: <i></i> Times <i>uni ko'rib chiqqanida</i>

976
01:02:39,222 --> 01:02:42,294
<i>bu ko'proq joy berdi</i>

977
01:02:42,325 --> 01:02:44,635
<i>shoudagi erkaklarga</i>

978
01:02:44,660 --> 01:02:46,469
<i>va u jahli chiqdi</i>

979
01:02:46,496 --> 01:02:49,602
<i>va o'zini kamsitilgandek his qildim.</i>

980
01:02:49,632 --> 01:02:51,612
<i>U o'zini munosib his qildi
ancha ko'proq joy</i>

981
01:02:51,634 --> 01:02:53,773
va yana ko'p e'tibor.

982
01:02:53,803 --> 01:02:57,512
Va menimcha, shunday bo'ldi
aniq baholash.

983
01:02:59,041 --> 01:03:00,111
HESSE: <i>Men o'qiyman</i>

984
01:03:00,143 --> 01:03:02,521
<i>Simone de Bovuar</i>
Ikkinchi jinsiy aloqa.

985
01:03:02,545 --> 01:03:05,992
<i>Men har doim hamma ayollarni his qilganman
qarshi edilar.</i>

986
01:03:06,015 --> 01:03:07,358
<i>Simone ham rozi.</i>

987
01:03:08,851 --> 01:03:12,060
<i>"Ajoyib kuch
zarur va jasoratdir.</i>

988
01:03:12,722 --> 01:03:14,668
<i>"Ammo biz buni uddalaymiz."</i>

989
01:03:14,690 --> 01:03:17,796
Bu ayollar uchun qiyinroq edi
ko'p jihatdan,

990
01:03:17,827 --> 01:03:21,798
faqat yo'l tufayli
san'at dunyosi tuzilgan.

991
01:03:21,831 --> 01:03:24,937
<i>Erkaklar ko'proq dalda oldilar
va ko'proq qo'llab-quvvatlandi.</i>

992
01:03:29,238 --> 01:03:34,244
HOLT: <i>Ayollar hatto ko'rinmasdi,
Shunday qilib, siz ko'rinmas edingiz.</i>

993
01:03:34,277 --> 01:03:36,689
<i>Eva bu g'ayrioddiy ishni qilardi</i>

994
01:03:37,513 --> 01:03:41,757
va bir necha kishi tomonidan ko'rish.

995
01:03:42,618 --> 01:03:45,098
<i>Shunday qilib, bu ba'zi to'siqlarni buzdi,</i>

996
01:03:45,121 --> 01:03:49,467
<i>va men yoriqlar sodir bo'layotganini ko'rdim
erkaklar hukmronlik qiladigan tizimda.</i>

997
01:03:50,927 --> 01:03:54,136
Uning ishonchi oddiy edi.

998
01:03:54,897 --> 01:03:55,875
Men rassomman.

999
01:03:57,733 --> 01:03:59,838
Men esa rassom sifatida tanilmoqchiman.

1000
01:03:59,869 --> 01:04:04,648
Har qanday vaqtda ular uni a
ayol rassom, u g'azablandi.

1001
01:04:06,642 --> 01:04:11,284
HESSE: <i>G'alaba qozonish yo'li
san'atda kamsitish san'at tomonidan.</i>

1002
01:04:11,314 --> 01:04:13,817
<i>Mukammallikning jinsiy aloqasi yo'q.</i>

1003
01:04:15,418 --> 01:04:19,059
<i>1966 yil 23 dekabr.</i>

1004
01:04:19,088 --> 01:04:21,830
<i>Bu o'rinli yakun
boshqa g'alati uchun,</i>

1005
01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:24,134
<i>ajab, qayg'uli...</i>

1006
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,299
<i>va g'alati darajada samarali yil.</i>

1007
01:04:26,996 --> 01:04:28,805
<i>Yaxshi voz kechish.</i>

1008
01:04:28,831 --> 01:04:30,071
<i>Va dadamning o'limi.</i>

1009
01:04:31,834 --> 01:04:35,145
<i>Va endi,
ishga va boshqa o'zgarishlarga.</i>

1010
01:04:39,075 --> 01:04:41,055
(NOQIYAT SUHBAT)

1011
01:04:42,078 --> 01:04:45,025
HESSE: <i>1967 yil 1 yanvar.</i>

1012
01:04:45,047 --> 01:04:47,391
<i>Men yaxshi ishlayapman va davom etishni xohlayman.</i>

1013
01:04:47,416 --> 01:04:50,363
<i>Hatto birinchisiga tayyor bo'lishi mumkin
kelasi kuzgacha bir kishilik shou.</i>

1014
01:04:51,654 --> 01:04:53,463
<i>Bugun kechqurun biz Smitsonda uchrashamiz.</i>

1015
01:04:53,489 --> 01:04:56,527
<i>Yarim tun. Bu uning tug'ilgan kuni 28 yil bo'ladi.</i>

1016
01:04:59,495 --> 01:05:02,840
SMITHSON: <i>Biz ma'lum bir narsaning bir qismiga aylandik
atrofdagi jamiyat.</i>

1017
01:05:02,865 --> 01:05:05,539
<i>Sol Lyuitt shubhasiz edi
juda markaziy.</i>

1018
01:05:11,607 --> 01:05:16,716
HOLT: <i>Biz bilan suhbatlashdik
Den Graham, Mel Bochner va</i>

1019
01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:20,558
Eva va Sol va Karl Andre.

1020
01:05:20,583 --> 01:05:23,291
<i>Bir-birlarining studiyalariga bordilar.</i>

1021
01:05:23,319 --> 01:05:25,321
<i>Odamlar his qilishdi
ularning yo'li,</i>

1022
01:05:25,354 --> 01:05:27,391
<i>hali hech narsa aniq bo'lmagandek.</i>

1023
01:05:27,423 --> 01:05:30,063
Hammasi shakllangan edi.

1024
01:05:30,092 --> 01:05:33,665
<i>Shunday qilib, suhbatlar
va almashinuvlar,</i>

1025
01:05:33,696 --> 01:05:36,108
<i>o'sha paytda kuchli edi.</i>

1026
01:05:36,132 --> 01:05:37,236
Bu bilan nima demoqchisiz?

1027
01:05:37,266 --> 01:05:39,143
Aytmoqchimanki, siz aniqlab olishingiz kerak
o'zingiz undan yaxshiroq.

1028
01:05:39,168 --> 01:05:40,738
Siz shunchaki so'zlarni ayta olmaysiz.

1029
01:05:40,770 --> 01:05:42,249
Siz haqiqatan ham aniq bo'lishingiz kerak.

1030
01:05:42,271 --> 01:05:44,308
Oh, so'zlar hech narsani anglatmaydi.
So'zlar ...

1031
01:05:44,340 --> 01:05:46,411
Ishlar haqiqatan ham
Nyu-Yorkda sodir bo'lmoqda.

1032
01:05:46,442 --> 01:05:50,686
Bu Maksning vaqti
Kanzas Siti va bularning barchasi

1033
01:05:50,713 --> 01:05:53,626
<i>rassomlar hali ham qattiq ichishgan,</i>

1034
01:05:53,649 --> 01:05:56,027
<i>tungi hayot tarzidagi odamlar.</i>

1035
01:05:56,052 --> 01:05:58,430
HESSE: <i>Biz bordik
Maksning Kanzas-Siti.</i>

1036
01:05:58,454 --> 01:06:01,799
<i>Karl, Andre va Mel qizib ketishdi
yopilgunga qadar muhokama qilish.</i>

1037
01:06:03,259 --> 01:06:05,466
DAN GRAHAM: <i>Men intellektual deb o'ylayman,
u juda ajoyib edi</i>

1038
01:06:05,494 --> 01:06:08,566
<i>va hamma tomonidan kam baholanadi
uning minimal san'at do'stlari.</i>

1039
01:06:08,597 --> 01:06:09,905
U juda, juda ambitsiyali edi

1040
01:06:09,932 --> 01:06:11,605
shuning uchun u hammaning ishiga qaradi.

1041
01:06:11,634 --> 01:06:13,705
Minimal rassomlar esa,
o'zlaridan ancha mamnun edilar

1042
01:06:13,736 --> 01:06:15,306
Ularning javobi bor edi.

1043
01:06:18,441 --> 01:06:21,388
LEWITT: <i> U bilan juda aloqador edi
maxsus vosita</i>

1044
01:06:21,410 --> 01:06:23,151
<i>u bilan ishlagani.</i>

1045
01:06:23,179 --> 01:06:24,522
60-yillarning ajoyib voqeasi,

1046
01:06:24,547 --> 01:06:27,289
uh, Canal Street texnologiyasi edi.

1047
01:06:27,316 --> 01:06:29,762
Shunday qilib, men aytmoqchimanki, u bunga kirishdi.

1048
01:06:30,686 --> 01:06:32,666
(AVTOGAN CHILIShI)

1049
01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:37,933
HOLT: <i>Kanal ko'chasi shunchaki ajoyibot edi.</i>

1050
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,375
<i>Men yuqoriga va pastga yurishni yaxshi ko'rardim
Kanal ko'chasi, barcha materiallarga qarab.</i>

1051
01:06:42,398 --> 01:06:46,005
<i>Va ko'pincha materiallar
sizni qandaydir g‘oyaga yetaklaydi.</i>

1052
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:49,581
HONIG: <i>Bu xuddi Tiffany'sda xarid qilish</i>ga o'xshardi

1053
01:06:49,605 --> 01:06:53,018
Tiffaninikidan tashqari
kichik kauchuk narsalari bor edi

1054
01:06:53,042 --> 01:06:54,749
<i>va siz ularning nima ekanligini bilmadingiz.</i>

1055
01:06:54,777 --> 01:06:56,586
ROBERT: <i>Kauchuk do'koni bor edi.</i>

1056
01:06:56,612 --> 01:06:59,752
<i>Do'konlar bor edi
bu eski qobiq g'iloflarini sotgan.</i>

1057
01:06:59,782 --> 01:07:01,227
<i>U erda hamma narsa bor edi.</i>

1058
01:07:01,250 --> 01:07:03,389
Bu Quyi Manxettenda bo'lishning bir qismi edi.

1059
01:07:03,419 --> 01:07:05,399
Aytmoqchimanki, Quyi Manxetten juda ajoyib edi.

1060
01:07:05,421 --> 01:07:07,458
<i>Yuk mashinalari ketayotgan edi,
har doim va,</i>

1061
01:07:07,490 --> 01:07:09,094
<i>uning juda ko'p ajoyiblari bor edi,</i>

1062
01:07:09,125 --> 01:07:11,696
<i>u erda sodir bo'layotgan narsalarni rag'batlantirish</i>

1063
01:07:11,727 --> 01:07:13,729
<i>bu barchamizga ta'sir qildi, bilasizmi?</i>

1064
01:07:13,763 --> 01:07:15,640
Siz unga eng yaqin kelganingizni bilasiz

1065
01:07:15,664 --> 01:07:17,871
men uchun hozir Home Depot.
(KULIB)

1066
01:07:19,769 --> 01:07:24,912
Bilasizmi, men u erga kiraman va shunday bo'ladi:
"Oh, bularning hammasini qarang."

1067
01:07:24,940 --> 01:07:27,853
Lekin bu Kanal ko'chasi emas.

Yo'q, unday emas. Bu emas.

1068
01:07:31,514 --> 01:07:33,892
HESSE: <i>Tong o'tkazdim,
Kanal ko'chasida xarid qilish.</i>

1069
01:07:33,916 --> 01:07:37,989
<i>Sol menga qo'shildi.
20 dan 30 dollargacha sarflagan bo‘lishi kerak.</i>

1070
01:07:52,401 --> 01:07:54,677
HESSE: <i>Juma, Kanal ko'chasi.</i>

1071
01:07:54,703 --> 01:07:59,777
<i>Magnit oling, yuvish vositalarini sinab ko'ring.
Ikki sim va og'irliklar.</i>

1072
01:08:08,184 --> 01:08:11,290
LEWITT: <i>U buni aytdi
uning ishini yomon qilmoqchi edi.</i>

1073
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,061
<i>Qo'rqinchli emas, balki g'alati.</i>

1074
01:08:13,089 --> 01:08:14,796
U qilish kerak edi
u bilan bir narsa,

1075
01:08:14,824 --> 01:08:16,826
Uh, bu unga yaxshi tuyuldi.

1076
01:08:18,294 --> 01:08:20,831
GRAHAM: <i>Eva bilan shug'ullangan
asossiz bo'lgan materiallar.</i>

1077
01:08:20,863 --> 01:08:22,069
Ular sanoat materiallari edi,

1078
01:08:22,098 --> 01:08:23,668
ular chiqindi materiallar edi.

1079
01:08:23,699 --> 01:08:25,940
<i>Menimcha, Eva shunday bo'lgan
maftunkorlik, balki</i>bilan

1080
01:08:25,968 --> 01:08:29,006
<i>bu arzimas madaniyat turi
Nyu-Yorkda topishingiz mumkin.</i>

1081
01:08:29,038 --> 01:08:30,608
LEWITT: <i>Ammo, demoqchimanki,
u bularning hammasini oldi</i>

1082
01:08:30,639 --> 01:08:33,176
va ularni to'liq qilib yaratdi,

1083
01:08:33,209 --> 01:08:39,387
u, ular yo'qotgan uning o'zi
ularning barcha nomaqbul sifati.

1084
01:08:42,051 --> 01:08:43,530
LIPPARD: <i>Men Evani qanday ko'rishim mumkin</i>

1085
01:08:43,552 --> 01:08:44,997
<i>u erda o'tirib, uning materiallari bilan,</i>

1086
01:08:45,020 --> 01:08:47,125
<i>deyarli ular kabi,
bu boshqa jonzot edi,</i>

1087
01:08:47,156 --> 01:08:49,067
<i>va ular bilan ishlash.</i>

1088
01:08:49,091 --> 01:08:51,697
Lekin boshqa jonzot emas, balki o'zi

1089
01:08:51,727 --> 01:08:54,731
chunki ular o'zlarini juda aniq bilishgan.

1090
01:08:54,763 --> 01:08:57,004
Aytmoqchimanki, u qo'ygan joyida edi
uning ko'p tashvishlari,

1091
01:08:57,032 --> 01:08:58,409
Menimcha, uning san'ati bilan shug'ullangan.

1092
01:08:58,434 --> 01:09:00,141
Men juda psixologiyaga ega bo'lishni xohlamayman

1093
01:09:00,169 --> 01:09:01,876
Bunga yo'naltirilgan, chunki,

1094
01:09:01,904 --> 01:09:05,374
bu juda mashhur emas
endi buni qilish uchun. Lekin...

1095
01:09:05,407 --> 01:09:07,785
Ammo Eva bilan bu deyarli mumkin emas

1096
01:09:07,810 --> 01:09:09,756
psixologik o'ylamaslik,

1097
01:09:09,778 --> 01:09:12,281
uning ishini bilsangiz,
va u shaxs sifatida.

1098
01:09:13,849 --> 01:09:16,056
HESSE: <i>Juma, 28-iyul.</i>

1099
01:09:16,085 --> 01:09:18,691
<i>Yarim tungacha Donald Drollga qo'ng'iroq qildim.</i>

1100
01:09:20,156 --> 01:09:23,069
ROBERT: <i>Donald Droll ko'proq edi
yoki kamroq ishlaydigan Fischbach,</i>

1101
01:09:23,092 --> 01:09:26,471
Bu shunday qudratli galereya edi.

1102
01:09:26,495 --> 01:09:30,705
<i>Va u juda mohir edi
rassomlarni tan olishda.</i>

1103
01:09:30,733 --> 01:09:31,871
Uning ajoyib ko'zi bor edi.

1104
01:09:31,901 --> 01:09:33,346
Uning ajoyib ko'zi bor edi, ha.

1105
01:09:35,037 --> 01:09:36,607
HESSE: <i>Juma kuni kechqurun.</i>

1106
01:09:36,639 --> 01:09:40,052
<i>Donald Droll, agar men bo'lsam, dedi
tayyor, men namoyish qila olaman.</i>

1107
01:09:40,075 --> 01:09:43,079
<i>Menda asosiy narsa bo'lishi mumkin
bu bahorda katta xona.</i>

1108
01:09:43,112 --> 01:09:44,785
LIPPARD: <i>Va bu katta ish edi.</i>

1109
01:09:44,813 --> 01:09:46,554
Bu juda katta imkoniyat edi.

1110
01:09:55,157 --> 01:09:58,468
HONIG: <i>Eva ajoyib edi,
qora, uzun sochlar</i>

1111
01:09:58,494 --> 01:10:02,237
U ramziy ma'noda barcha sochlarini kesib tashladi.

1112
01:10:05,634 --> 01:10:08,080
<i>Bu uning hayotida boshqa vaqt bo'ladi.</i>

1113
01:10:08,103 --> 01:10:11,107
<i>Bu xotin bo'lishdan uzoq edi,</i>

1114
01:10:11,140 --> 01:10:14,713
<i>va hammasi uning ishi haqida bo'lardi.</i>

1115
01:10:16,178 --> 01:10:18,385
HESSE: <i>8-mart, juma.</i>

1116
01:10:18,414 --> 01:10:20,553
Doroti B. Film.

1117
01:10:32,695 --> 01:10:36,541
<i>Epoksi uchun zavod. Kauchuk yoki plastmassa.</i>

1118
01:10:37,833 --> 01:10:40,143
<i>Moslashuvchan chidamlilik.</i>

1119
01:10:40,169 --> 01:10:43,150
GOLDMAN: <i>U doimo kengayib borardi,</i>

1120
01:10:43,172 --> 01:10:44,913
u bilganidan tashqariga chiqadi.

1121
01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:46,783
Bu uning maqsadi edi.

1122
01:10:46,809 --> 01:10:50,655
HESSE: <i>Silikon. 120 kubometr, 20 kubometr</i>

1123
01:10:50,679 --> 01:10:53,592
<i>Silastex, 120 ccs.</i>

1124
01:10:53,616 --> 01:10:57,655
SUSSMAN: <i>Bir guruh chaqirildi
San'at va texnologiyada tajribalar</i>

1125
01:10:57,686 --> 01:11:00,860
<i>san'atkorlarni yig'ish uchun yig'ilgan edi</i>

1126
01:11:00,889 --> 01:11:05,599
<i>odamlar orbitasiga
yangi texnologiyalardan foydalanish.</i>

1127
01:11:05,628 --> 01:11:07,972
<i>Eva Hesse guruhga qabul qilindi,</i>

1128
01:11:07,997 --> 01:11:09,772
<i>va u ma'ruzalarda qatnashdi</i>

1129
01:11:09,798 --> 01:11:14,338
<i>polimerlar va lateksdan foydalanishda.</i>

1130
01:11:14,370 --> 01:11:19,444
HESSE: <i>Bir, suyuqlik. Ikki, shaffof kauchuk.</i>

1131
01:11:19,475 --> 01:11:23,753
<i>Uch, 24 soatdan keyin o'rnatiladi. To'rtta...</i>

1132
01:11:23,779 --> 01:11:25,690
Materiya muhim.

1133
01:11:25,714 --> 01:11:29,526
Va menimcha, bu juda aniq
Eva ishida,

1134
01:11:29,551 --> 01:11:32,327
<i>shaklning moddiy ko'rinishi</i>

1135
01:11:32,354 --> 01:11:36,200
<i>intensiv holatdan chiqadi
masalani tergov qilish.</i>

1136
01:11:38,594 --> 01:11:40,505
HESSE: <i>30-aprel, seshanba.</i>

1137
01:11:40,529 --> 01:11:43,999
<i>Arco, Canal Street, Aegis-ga boring.</i>

1138
01:11:45,734 --> 01:11:50,774
Aegis mustahkamlangan plastmassalar
uchun maxsus yaratilgan

1139
01:11:50,806 --> 01:11:54,379
ijodkorlarga yordam berish
ularning o'ziga xos narsalari,

1140
01:11:54,410 --> 01:11:57,357
<i>shu jumladan, yoqtiradigan odamlar
Bob Morris va Tom Doyl,</i>

1141
01:11:57,379 --> 01:11:59,416
<i>va Rob Smitson.</i>

1142
01:11:59,448 --> 01:12:03,225
<i>Bob Morris Evani olib keldi va
unga nima qila olishingizni ko'rsatdi.</i>

1143
01:12:03,252 --> 01:12:06,631
<i>Fiberglas qanday harakat qiladi?
qachon to'yingan edi?</i>

1144
01:12:06,655 --> 01:12:10,125
<i>Qiyin bo'lganda edi
u hali ham yumshoq edi.</i>

1145
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:13,697
Bu yaxshi narsalardan biri edi,
chunki u yumshoqlikni yaxshi ko'rardi.

1146
01:12:13,729 --> 01:12:16,232
<i>O'ylaymanki, biz aloqa o'rnatdik va</i>

1147
01:12:16,265 --> 01:12:19,872
<i>bir necha oy o'tgach,
uning asarlari ustida ishlay boshladik.</i>

1148
01:12:21,904 --> 01:12:23,440
<i>Men Eva uchun yaratgan birinchi asar,</i>

1149
01:12:23,472 --> 01:12:25,349
<i>deb nomlangan</i> O'n to'qqizta takrorlash.

1150
01:12:25,374 --> 01:12:27,513
<i>Va u menga bir nechta chizmalarni ko'rsatdi.</i>

1151
01:12:27,543 --> 01:12:31,355
<i>Tsilindrning juda oddiy chizilgan chizmasi.</i>

1152
01:12:31,380 --> 01:12:34,384
U menga o'lchamlarni va ulardan 19 tasini berdi.

1153
01:12:37,286 --> 01:12:39,698
<i>Biz bu silindrlarni yasadik,</i>

1154
01:12:39,722 --> 01:12:41,724
<i>ularni shisha tola bilan qoplangan,</i>

1155
01:12:44,026 --> 01:12:46,905
<i>va ular qotib qolsin.</i>

1156
01:12:46,929 --> 01:12:49,637
<i>Va keyin bizda bor edi
gazetani olib tashlash.</i>

1157
01:12:56,238 --> 01:12:58,616
<i>U oxirigacha chiqadi,
Staten Island</i>ga

1158
01:13:02,444 --> 01:13:05,152
va u dahshatga tushdi.

1159
01:13:05,180 --> 01:13:07,490
Aytmoqchimanki, dahshatdan tashqari.

1160
01:13:07,516 --> 01:13:08,927
<i>Ular juda mukammal edi.</i>

1161
01:13:08,951 --> 01:13:13,923
<i>Shunday qilib, men unga aytdim: “Mana, sen qilasan
qog'oz machedan chelaklar.</i>

1162
01:13:13,956 --> 01:13:16,402
<i>"Men ularni aynan shunday qilaman</i>

1163
01:13:16,425 --> 01:13:18,735
<i>"Siz ularni shisha tolali shishadan yasadingiz."</i>

1164
01:13:20,295 --> 01:13:22,935
Shunday qilib, u yana buni qilishni boshladi.

1165
01:13:22,965 --> 01:13:25,002
Va bu safar uning qo'li bilan

1166
01:13:25,033 --> 01:13:28,014
u har bir parcha uchun nimadir qildi,

1167
01:13:28,036 --> 01:13:31,745
va bu silindrlar emas edi.

1168
01:13:31,774 --> 01:13:36,450
<i>U uchun o'ziga xoslik
shaxsiy edi, u jismoniy edi,</i>

1169
01:13:36,478 --> 01:13:40,016
va uning teginishi, uning yo'li edi.

1170
01:13:42,518 --> 01:13:44,464
JOHNS: <i>Bir necha hafta o'tgach,
u chiqadi.</i>

1171
01:13:44,486 --> 01:13:47,490
<i>Uda 19 ta chelak bor
va ular kattaroq, endi.</i>

1172
01:13:47,523 --> 01:13:51,835
<i> Shunday qilib, biz bu chelaklarni yasadik,
ularni qatron bilan qoplangan,</i>

1173
01:13:51,860 --> 01:13:55,865
ularni stolga qo'ying,
Chiroqni yoqing va qo'ying!

1174
01:14:07,042 --> 01:14:09,852
<i>Ular xuddi shunday ajoyib narsa edi.</i>

1175
01:14:09,878 --> 01:14:11,585
<i>U hayajonda edi.</i>

1176
01:14:11,613 --> 01:14:14,219
<i>Ya'ni, bu shunchaki edi
u ko'rgan eng yaxshi narsa.</i>

1177
01:14:15,117 --> 01:14:17,119
O'sha paytda biz bir jamoa edik.

1178
01:14:17,152 --> 01:14:18,927
Shunchaki buni qilaylik,

1179
01:14:18,954 --> 01:14:21,400
va biz haykallar yasaymiz

1180
01:14:21,423 --> 01:14:23,460
va u juda hayajonlangan edi.

1181
01:14:25,060 --> 01:14:29,031
U: “Nega kelmaysan?
va men bilan yashaysizmi?" Shunday qildim.

1182
01:14:37,206 --> 01:14:39,914
<i>Uning ko'rsatuvi bor edi
Fischbach</i>da

1183
01:14:39,942 --> 01:14:42,923
<i> Shunday qilib, biz uyg'onamiz
ertalab va u edi,</i>

1184
01:14:42,945 --> 01:14:44,822
"Keling, san'at bilan shug'ullanaylik."

1185
01:14:44,847 --> 01:14:48,090
Va biz kechayu kunduz ishlaymiz,

1186
01:14:48,116 --> 01:14:49,720
Biz shunchaki qulab tushgunimizcha.

1187
01:14:51,019 --> 01:14:55,434
<i>Biz sessiya o'tkazdik,
bu asosan quti</i>bo'lgan

1188
01:14:55,457 --> 01:14:57,095
<i>biz tashqi tomondan qoplaganmiz</i>

1189
01:14:57,125 --> 01:14:59,196
<i>juda qalin shisha tolali qatlam bilan.</i>

1190
01:15:01,263 --> 01:15:03,539
<i>Va keyin biz teshik ochamiz</i>

1191
01:15:03,565 --> 01:15:05,340
<i>bu shisha tolali bo'lak orqali,</i>

1192
01:15:05,367 --> 01:15:08,348
29 000 teshik bilan biz buni qildik.

1193
01:15:10,138 --> 01:15:13,449
<i>Va men unga qo'yishga yordam berdim
bu narsadagi quvurlar.</i>

1194
01:15:13,475 --> 01:15:15,580
GOLDMAN: <i>Qo'shilish,
deb ataladi, quvurlar?</i>

1195
01:15:17,212 --> 01:15:19,089
Hech qachon bunday jinsiy aloqani ko'rmaganman

1196
01:15:19,114 --> 01:15:20,991
va butun hayotimdagi fantastik.

1197
01:15:21,016 --> 01:15:23,018
<i>Va Eva u erda o'tirardi,</i>

1198
01:15:23,051 --> 01:15:26,726
<i>va bom, va bom va bom</i>

1199
01:15:26,755 --> 01:15:31,864
<i> puxta, uslubiy ritmda.</i>

1200
01:15:31,894 --> 01:15:33,396
<i>Ular ketishdi.</i>

1201
01:15:34,463 --> 01:15:36,943
Boshingizni ichkariga qo'yganingizda,

1202
01:15:36,965 --> 01:15:39,343
tashqarida hech narsani eshitmading.

1203
01:15:39,368 --> 01:15:41,871
Va, albatta, u Boweryda yashagan.

1204
01:15:41,904 --> 01:15:43,975
<i>Va shovqinli edi, mastlar ham bor</i>

1205
01:15:44,006 --> 01:15:46,418
<i>va baqirish va
har xil shovqin bor.</i>

1206
01:15:46,441 --> 01:15:48,079
<i>Siz hech narsani eshitmadingiz.</i>

1207
01:15:48,110 --> 01:15:49,282
<i>Bu ajoyib edi.</i>

1208
01:15:49,311 --> 01:15:52,121
<i>Siz u erga kirgan edingiz va shunday bo'ldi
xuddi g‘orda bo‘lgandek.</i>

1209
01:15:53,181 --> 01:15:55,058
Uning his-tuyg'ulari bu san'at edi

1210
01:15:55,083 --> 01:15:57,529
jarayonning artefakti edi.

1211
01:15:57,553 --> 01:15:59,464
<i>San'at yaratilmoqda,</i>

1212
01:15:59,488 --> 01:16:02,958
<i>artifakt qolgan narsa edi.</i>

1213
01:16:02,991 --> 01:16:07,167
<i>Bu shunchaki ajoyib edi
adolatli, san'at yaratish vaqti.</i>

1214
01:16:07,195 --> 01:16:09,641
Va men uni telbalarcha sevib qoldim.

1215
01:16:09,665 --> 01:16:12,771
Mutlaqo shunchaki, um...

1216
01:16:12,801 --> 01:16:15,247
Menimcha, u emas edi
Menga telbalarcha oshiq.

1217
01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:18,649
Bilaman, u sevib qolgan edi
men bilan, bu aniq.

1218
01:16:18,674 --> 01:16:20,984
Bu haqda hech qanday savol yo'q edi.

1219
01:16:21,009 --> 01:16:24,218
Uh, lekin u o'z san'atiga oshiq edi.

1220
01:16:34,990 --> 01:16:38,528
HESSE: <i>seshanba, 4-iyun. Aegis.</i>

1221
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:43,236
<i>Kauchuk. To'rt pint birga. Naychali plastmassa.</i>

1222
01:16:43,265 --> 01:16:45,040
<i>Buni Dagga bering.</i>

1223
01:16:46,668 --> 01:16:48,670
<i>7-iyul, yakshanba.</i>

1224
01:16:48,704 --> 01:16:52,174
<i>Organik va noorganik polimerlar.</i>

1225
01:16:52,207 --> 01:16:54,312
<i>Zanjirli polimerlar.</i>

1226
01:16:54,343 --> 01:16:57,756
HOLT: <i>U rezina mato, tülbent.</i>

1227
01:16:57,779 --> 01:17:00,521
<i>Bu kashfiyot edi
yangi jarayon.</i>

1228
01:17:00,549 --> 01:17:03,359
Bu bo'lgan narsa emas edi
dunyoda allaqachon mavjud.

1229
01:17:11,860 --> 01:17:13,669
HESSE: <i>8-iyul, dushanba.</i>

1230
01:17:13,695 --> 01:17:16,972
<i>Yangi ish. Kauchuk, shisha tolali.</i>

1231
01:17:21,036 --> 01:17:27,248
Men unga plastiklar haqida xabar berdim
va kauchuk qochqindir.

1232
01:17:27,275 --> 01:17:31,121
Kauchuk davom etadi, eng yaxshisi,
o'n, 15 yil.

1233
01:17:31,146 --> 01:17:33,057
<i>Va u asta-sekin yorilib keta boshlaydi</i>

1234
01:17:33,081 --> 01:17:35,618
<i>va u changga aylana boshlaydi.</i>

1235
01:17:35,651 --> 01:17:38,530
U: “Yaxshi.
Bu haqda tashvishlansinlar”.

1236
01:17:38,553 --> 01:17:40,533
Muzey xodimlari haqida.

1237
01:17:40,555 --> 01:17:44,025
"Xo'sh, nima? Men nimani xohlayman
ta'siri hozir."

1238
01:17:45,727 --> 01:17:48,173
HESSE: <i>27-oktabr, yakshanba.</i>

1239
01:17:48,196 --> 01:17:50,938
<i>Sans, to'liq, yakuniy.</i>

1240
01:17:50,966 --> 01:17:52,445
<i>Ajoyib chiqdi.</i>

1241
01:17:59,341 --> 01:18:02,811
<i>16-noyabr, shanba. Ko'rsatish.</i>

1242
01:18:38,980 --> 01:18:41,290
HESSE: <i>Men ishni xohlayman
ishlamaydigan bo'lish.</i>

1243
01:18:41,316 --> 01:18:44,923
<i>O'z yo'lini topish uchun
mening taxminlarim.</i>

1244
01:18:44,953 --> 01:18:47,991
<i>Men bilganimdan tashqariga chiqish uchun,
va bilishi mumkin.</i>

1245
01:18:50,759 --> 01:18:52,397
<i>Bu nimadir.</i>

1246
01:18:54,796 --> 01:18:56,002
<i>Bu hech narsa emas.</i>

1247
01:19:03,572 --> 01:19:05,813
TIMPANELLI: <i>Men ochilishga bordim.</i>

1248
01:19:05,841 --> 01:19:10,085
<i>Oh! Va men qidirayotgan edim
Bolaligimdan beri san'atda.</i>

1249
01:19:10,112 --> 01:19:13,616
Men buni ko'rdim
Men ilgari hech qachon ko'rmaganman.

1250
01:19:13,648 --> 01:19:18,893
Va shunga qaramay, mutlaqo
asl bo'lganidek,

1251
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:23,892
aql bovar qilmaydigan darajada edi
bizning davrimizni aks ettiradi

1252
01:19:23,925 --> 01:19:28,067
<i>va hamma vaqt,
va haqiqiy tuyg'u.</i>

1253
01:19:35,303 --> 01:19:38,773
SEROTA: <i>Evaning ishi yoy
uning yangi sezgirligi.</i>

1254
01:19:39,541 --> 01:19:42,283
<i>Bu o'ziga xos edi.</i>

1255
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:45,189
<i>Bu uning o'zi edi.</i>

1256
01:19:45,213 --> 01:19:48,660
<i>Mo'rt, chiroyli, taxminiy.</i>

1257
01:19:49,951 --> 01:19:51,760
Hammasi shu narsalar edi
o'sha haykal,

1258
01:19:51,787 --> 01:19:53,164
bo'lmasligi kerak edi.

1259
01:19:56,224 --> 01:19:58,261
HESSE: <i>"Eva Hesse.</i>

1260
01:19:58,293 --> 01:20:02,332
<i>"Bu birinchi bir kishilik shou
g'ayrioddiy qiziqish.</i>

1261
01:20:02,364 --> 01:20:05,504
<i>"Hesse xonimning ishi noqulay joylashgan,</i>

1262
01:20:05,534 --> 01:20:08,674
<i>"lekin qiziq ikki qutb orasida.</i>

1263
01:20:08,703 --> 01:20:11,513
<i>"Yuqori ratsionalizatsiyalangan shakl sohasi,</i>

1264
01:20:11,540 --> 01:20:14,987
<i>"va sohasi
syurrealistik orzu ob'ektlari."</i>

1265
01:20:16,178 --> 01:20:18,624
Bizda sakkiz yoki to'qqizta tomosha bor edi,

1266
01:20:18,647 --> 01:20:20,991
biz o'sha kuni ko'rmoqchi edik.

1267
01:20:21,016 --> 01:20:25,658
Va ro'yxatdagi oxirgi
Eva Hesse bo'lib chiqdi.

1268
01:20:25,687 --> 01:20:28,463
<i>Va men ichkariga kirdim
Fischbach galereyasi,</i>

1269
01:20:28,490 --> 01:20:31,403
<i>va men birdan ko'rdim,
eng chiroyli narsalar</i>

1270
01:20:31,426 --> 01:20:33,702
<i>Men ko'rgan va eng maftunkori.</i>

1271
01:20:35,463 --> 01:20:38,103
TONY GANZ: <i>Bo'lgan
bu ajoyib ish.</i>

1272
01:20:38,133 --> 01:20:41,876
Va Eva o'zi u erda
orqa xonada.

1273
01:20:41,903 --> 01:20:46,443
Va u singlim Keytga o'xshamaydi,

1274
01:20:46,474 --> 01:20:50,320
uning uchun unutilmas haqiqat.

1275
01:20:50,345 --> 01:20:54,623
VICTOR: <i>Meni maftun qildim
va darhol unga tushdi.</i>

1276
01:20:54,649 --> 01:20:56,356
<i>Uni ajoyib deb o'yladim.</i>

1277
01:20:56,384 --> 01:21:00,560
U biror narsa qilishga qaror qiladi
u ko'p yillar davomida qilmagan,

1278
01:21:00,589 --> 01:21:03,832
qaysi bir ish sotib olish uchun.

1279
01:21:03,859 --> 01:21:06,965
JOHNS: <i>Ganzlar qachon
ba'zi qismlarni sotib oldi,</i>

1280
01:21:06,995 --> 01:21:09,839
u studiyaga qaytib keldi,
va u dedi:

1281
01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:12,641
"Ular mening parchalarimni sotib olishadi.

1282
01:21:12,667 --> 01:21:14,669
<i>"Ular Pikassosni ham yig'ishadi.</i>

1283
01:21:14,703 --> 01:21:16,979
<i>"Hammasi shu, men va Pikasso."</i>
(Kuladi)

1284
01:21:17,005 --> 01:21:18,313
<i>Bu xuddi shunday edi: “Voy!”</i>

1285
01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:23,918
U kechki ovqatga kelardi
tez-tez,

1286
01:21:23,945 --> 01:21:25,982
va biz har doim yoqimli oqshom o'tkazdik.

1287
01:21:31,987 --> 01:21:33,466
HESSE: <i>Yana to'rtta chizma sotildi.</i>

1288
01:21:33,488 --> 01:21:38,597
<i>Whitney Spring Show,</i>
TIME jurnalining san'at bo'limi.

1289
01:21:38,627 --> 01:21:41,972
U ulardan biri edi
Nyu-Yorkdagi rassomlar.

1290
01:21:41,997 --> 01:21:44,170
<i>U asosan yagona ayol edi</i>

1291
01:21:44,199 --> 01:21:46,577
<i>bu guruhda edi.</i>

1292
01:21:46,601 --> 01:21:48,205
U yigitlardan biri edi.

1293
01:21:59,547 --> 01:22:04,121
U ichkariga kirdi
favqulodda ish rejimi.

1294
01:22:04,152 --> 01:22:06,257
Aytmoqchimanki, u shunday edi
favqulodda samarali

1295
01:22:06,288 --> 01:22:07,926
<i>va paydo bo'la boshlaydi,</i>

1296
01:22:07,956 --> 01:22:10,562
<i>va joylardan javoblar oling.</i>

1297
01:22:11,626 --> 01:22:13,572
HESSE: <i>Ko'p narsa sodir bo'lmoqda.</i>

1298
01:22:13,595 --> 01:22:15,506
<i>Ko'p muvaffaqiyatlarga erishdim.</i>

1299
01:22:15,530 --> 01:22:17,476
<i>Mendan juda ko'p shoularda ishtirok etishimni so'rashdi,</i>

1300
01:22:17,499 --> 01:22:18,705
<i>Men davom eta olmayman.</i>

1301
01:22:23,738 --> 01:22:25,945
<i>Oktyabr oyida men Yevropaga boraman,</i>

1302
01:22:25,974 --> 01:22:29,080
<i>bir kishilik spektakl bor
Kölndagi Rika galereyasi.</i>

1303
01:22:29,110 --> 01:22:32,216
<i>Mart oyi uchun men tayyorlanyapman
Uitni uchun ishlash.</i>

1304
01:22:39,788 --> 01:22:43,065
<i>Show o'z ichiga oladi
Karl Andre, Robert Morris,</i>

1305
01:22:43,091 --> 01:22:47,096
<i>Bryus Nauman, Richard Serra va men.</i>

1306
01:23:00,542 --> 01:23:02,351
JOHNS: <i>U olayapti
ko'p bosh og'rig'i.</i>

1307
01:23:02,377 --> 01:23:04,254
<i>Uning boshi aylanardi</i>

1308
01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:07,351
<i>va haqiqatan ham ishlay olmadi.</i>

1309
01:23:07,382 --> 01:23:11,091
U ko‘zlarini qisib qo‘ygan bo‘lardi
bu qattiq og'riq.

1310
01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:13,429
Men esa unga: “Mana,

1311
01:23:13,455 --> 01:23:17,665
<i>"Siz shifokorga murojaat qilishingiz kerak."
Va u bundan qochdi.</i>

1312
01:23:19,661 --> 01:23:20,969
LIPPARD: <i>Men kechani eslayman,</i>

1313
01:23:20,996 --> 01:23:22,942
<i>va biz hammamiz Eva bilan birga edik,</i>

1314
01:23:22,964 --> 01:23:25,945
va biz buni angladik
haqiqatan ham nimadir noto'g'ri edi.

1315
01:23:25,967 --> 01:23:28,038
Uning bosh og'rig'i shunchaki dahshatli edi.

1316
01:23:32,807 --> 01:23:35,686
<i> Ilgari psixiatr
jismoniy ekanligini aytgan edi,</i>

1317
01:23:35,710 --> 01:23:38,122
<i>va jismoniy shifokorlar
psixiatrik ekanligini aytgan edi.</i>

1318
01:23:38,146 --> 01:23:40,956
<i>Va u juda xavotirda edi,</i>

1319
01:23:40,982 --> 01:23:44,327
<i>va shunday bo'lib tuyuldi,
nima bo'layotgan edi.</i>

1320
01:23:44,352 --> 01:23:46,923
Ammo o'sha paytda,
u haqiqatan ham og'riqli edi

1321
01:23:46,955 --> 01:23:50,232
va menimcha, biz tushundik,
bu edi

1322
01:23:50,258 --> 01:23:52,101
biz o'ylagandan ham ko'proq.

1323
01:23:52,127 --> 01:23:53,970
(Tez yordam sirenasi yig'laydi)

1324
01:23:57,032 --> 01:24:00,343
HESSE: <i>10 aprel. men edi
Nyu-York kasalxonasiga yotqizilgan,</i>

1325
01:24:00,368 --> 01:24:02,473
<i>tekshirish, sinovdan o'tkazish.</i>

1326
01:24:04,205 --> 01:24:06,913
CHARASH: <i>U bir necha kun edi,</i>

1327
01:24:06,941 --> 01:24:09,751
<i>va ular hech qanday xato topa olmadilar.</i>

1328
01:24:09,778 --> 01:24:12,520
<i>Va ular orqa miyani urishdi
va Xudoga shukur.</i>

1329
01:24:12,547 --> 01:24:13,855
U o'sha kuni vafot etgan bo'lardi.

1330
01:24:16,351 --> 01:24:18,456
HESSE: <i>Mening shishim juda kattalashgan edi,</i>

1331
01:24:18,486 --> 01:24:20,727
<i>ko'chirish uchun bo'sh joy yo'q edi.</i>

1332
01:24:20,755 --> 01:24:23,599
<i>Shunday qilib, bu mening miyamni ag'darib yubordi.</i>

1333
01:24:24,392 --> 01:24:26,235
<i>Ko'p vaqt yo'q edi.</i>

1334
01:24:27,662 --> 01:24:30,939
<i>Rasmlarni ko'rdim, rang miltillaydi.</i>

1335
01:24:30,965 --> 01:24:34,469
<i>Juda, juda chiroyli.</i>

1336
01:24:34,502 --> 01:24:36,778
<i>Qo'rqmadim.</i>

1337
01:24:36,805 --> 01:24:38,375
<i>Tegishni xohladim,</i>

1338
01:24:38,406 --> 01:24:41,353
<i>men bilan bo'lganlar bilan bog'lanadi.</i>

1339
01:24:41,376 --> 01:24:45,483
<i>Men ular bilan juda aloqada edim,
va ular men bilan.</i>

1340
01:24:45,513 --> 01:24:47,220
<i>Men gaplashdim.</i>

1341
01:24:47,248 --> 01:24:50,889
<i>Men tabassum qildim. Men xayol qildim.</i>

1342
01:24:50,919 --> 01:24:54,162
<i>Menda vahiylar bor edi. Men sevardim.</i>

1343
01:24:54,889 --> 01:24:56,994
<i>Men yetarlicha gapira olmadim.</i>

1344
01:24:57,025 --> 01:25:01,667
<i>Men yuzlarni ko'rdim. Men sevgi, baxtni ko'rdim.</i>

1345
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:06,943
CHARASH: <i>U edi
operatsiya qilindi va men kiraman</i>

1346
01:25:06,968 --> 01:25:08,504
u erda, men, albatta, hali ham ko'rish mumkin.

1347
01:25:08,536 --> 01:25:10,277
Va u yotoqda o'tiradi,

1348
01:25:10,305 --> 01:25:12,285
bosh atrofida bog'langan,

1349
01:25:12,307 --> 01:25:15,186
va u o'zini ajoyib his qilmoqda.

1350
01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:18,248
Va u endi,
bosh og'rig'i yo'qoldi

1351
01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:21,556
va u og'riqli emas edi,
va u o'zini juda yaxshi his qildi.

1352
01:25:21,583 --> 01:25:24,154
Va u dedi: "Men qanchalik baxtliman,
ularda hammasi bor

1353
01:25:24,185 --> 01:25:26,791
"Va men juda omadliman."

1354
01:25:26,821 --> 01:25:29,529
HESSE: <i>Men hammasi boshlangan joyiga qaytdim.</i>

1355
01:25:29,557 --> 01:25:31,036
<i>Men juda kasal edim.</i>

1356
01:25:31,059 --> 01:25:34,632
<i>Menda alomatlar bor edi, lekin qilardim
ularni tanimaydi.</i>

1357
01:25:34,662 --> 01:25:37,802
<i>Hamma narsani inkor etish mumkin.</i>

1358
01:25:37,832 --> 01:25:40,813
Odamlar u kasal bo'lib qolganda,

1359
01:25:40,835 --> 01:25:42,746
materiallar aybdor edi.

1360
01:25:42,770 --> 01:25:44,750
<i>Ya'ni, boshqalar ham bor edi
lateks bilan ishlaydigan odamlar,</i>

1361
01:25:44,772 --> 01:25:47,844
<i>lekin u men aytganimdek edi
haqiqatan ham uning materiallariga.</i>

1362
01:25:47,876 --> 01:25:51,551
Demak, u nafas olayotgandir
ular va bilasizmi,

1363
01:25:51,579 --> 01:25:54,492
ularni tatib ko'rish, hatto. Kim biladi?

1364
01:25:54,516 --> 01:25:57,520
JOHNS: <i>Men shuni nazarda tutyapman
fiberglasning boshlanishi.</i>

1365
01:25:57,552 --> 01:25:59,930
<i>Ammo bu unchalik zaharli emas,</i>

1366
01:25:59,954 --> 01:26:02,366
<i>va uning shishi juda katta edi</i>

1367
01:26:02,390 --> 01:26:06,429
<i>hatto buni o'ylash uchun,
bu oz miqdorda ta'sir qilish</i>

1368
01:26:06,461 --> 01:26:10,068
<i>uning borligi,
unga miya shishini berdi.</i>

1369
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,804
WAPNER: <i>Men tez-tez mazax qilishga harakat qilaman,</i>

1370
01:26:13,835 --> 01:26:15,746
<i>u ishlagan qatronlarmi,</i>

1371
01:26:15,770 --> 01:26:21,152
<i>Yoki bu qandaydir genetik DNK tasodifmi?</i>

1372
01:26:24,312 --> 01:26:25,950
<i>Biz hech qachon bilmaymiz.</i>

1373
01:26:29,317 --> 01:26:33,356
HESSE: <i>O'tgan yili
va endi, mening kasalligimdan beri,</i>

1374
01:26:33,388 --> 01:26:36,335
<i>Men shunchaki yashashni xohlayman, qo'yib yubor,</i>

1375
01:26:36,357 --> 01:26:39,736
<i>o'tmishni, o'tmishni chaqiring
va yana bir urinib ko'ring.</i>

1376
01:26:39,761 --> 01:26:42,071
<i>Xudoyim, kim mening tariximni bilsa,</i>

1377
01:26:42,096 --> 01:26:45,236
<i>Kim meni tanisa, men bunga loyiq ekanligimni biladi.</i>

1378
01:26:45,733 --> 01:26:47,269
<i>Bu haqiqat.</i>

1379
01:26:47,302 --> 01:26:51,148
<i>Hech qachon vaqt bo'lmagan
me'yor sifatida kvalifikatsiya qilinadigan sahna.</i>

1380
01:26:51,172 --> 01:26:53,948
<i>Har tomondan ekstremal.</i>

1381
01:26:57,779 --> 01:27:00,350
TIMPANELLI: <i>U qoldi
men bilan Woodstock</i>da

1382
01:27:00,381 --> 01:27:03,624
<i>U bo'yoqlari solingan sumkasi bilan keldi.</i>

1383
01:27:04,919 --> 01:27:07,126
<i>Bu darhol keyin edi. U</i>ga ega emas edi

1384
01:27:07,155 --> 01:27:08,793
<i>qaytish uchun energiya
studiya yolg'iz qolish</i>

1385
01:27:08,823 --> 01:27:10,166
<i>va haykaltaroshlik qilish.</i>

1386
01:27:10,191 --> 01:27:12,865
<i>Demak, u shunday qilmoqchi edi
bu qog'oz rasmlari.</i>

1387
01:27:17,599 --> 01:27:20,637
HESSE: <i>Bugun uchinchisi
kuni o'zimni biroz yaxshi his qilyapman,</i>

1388
01:27:20,668 --> 01:27:24,673
<i>bir oz kuchliroq,
biroz umidvorroq,</i>

1389
01:27:24,706 --> 01:27:26,811
<i>kasallik biroz kamroq.</i>

1390
01:27:27,842 --> 01:27:31,153
<i>Men qanchalik minnatdorman.
Mening qiladigan ishlarim ko'p.</i>

1391
01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:34,223
TIMPANELLI: <i>Biz erta turdik
ertalab.</i>

1392
01:27:34,249 --> 01:27:38,425
Bizda mussli, bir piyola choy,
keyin esa ishga ketardik.

1393
01:27:38,453 --> 01:27:40,194
Va ish ayvonda edi.

1394
01:27:40,221 --> 01:27:43,395
<i>Va yomg'ir yog'a boshladi,
va u hech qachon to'xtamadi.</i>

1395
01:27:44,359 --> 01:27:46,339
<i>Ammo biz har kuni ishladik.</i>

1396
01:27:47,395 --> 01:27:50,467
<i>Men hech qachon bunday san'at ustida ishlamaganman.</i>

1397
01:27:50,498 --> 01:27:53,206
Biz faqat ishlashga o'zimizni bag'ishladik

1398
01:27:53,234 --> 01:27:55,407
va u bu rasmlarni yaratish uchun,

1399
01:27:55,436 --> 01:27:57,177
bu chiroyli qog'oz rasmlari.

1400
01:28:02,977 --> 01:28:06,618
<i>U ularni qirib tashlaydi,
u chiziqlar yaratdi.</i>

1401
01:28:06,648 --> 01:28:10,926
SUSSMAN: <i>U qatlamli edi
bir xil</i>da bo'yoqlarni yuvishda

1402
01:28:10,952 --> 01:28:14,900
<i>uning nozik usuli
uning lateks bilan muomala qilgan edi,</i>

1403
01:28:14,922 --> 01:28:19,029
<i>nuqtagacha
materialning izchilligi</i>

1404
01:28:19,060 --> 01:28:22,906
<i>qog'ozda unga to'g'ri keldi.</i>

1405
01:28:22,930 --> 01:28:25,774
<i>Ularning ambitsiyalari bor
rasmlar va ular bo'lgan</i>

1406
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,747
<i>kechki ishlarga nisbatan
Mark Rothko.</i>

1407
01:28:33,675 --> 01:28:35,848
TIMPANELLI: <i>Biz ham xohlardik
ba'zan xarid qilish.</i>

1408
01:28:35,877 --> 01:28:39,723
Va u bu qurtlarni sotib oldi,
bir marta, musht.

1409
01:28:39,747 --> 01:28:43,627
Va men undan so'radim, dedim:
— Oh, nima qilmoqchisan?

1410
01:28:43,651 --> 01:28:44,823
U: “Hali bilmayman”, dedi.

1411
01:28:44,852 --> 01:28:46,456
U: “Men o'ynayman
ular bilan bir muddat ».

1412
01:28:46,487 --> 01:28:49,559
Va u qaraydi,
va u qaror qiladi

1413
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:50,796
biror narsa bilan nima qilish kerak.

1414
01:28:51,926 --> 01:28:54,532
SUSSMAN: <i>Buyuklardan biri
u bizga o'rgatgan narsalar,</i>

1415
01:28:54,562 --> 01:28:56,166
<i>Menimcha, bu o'yin.</i>

1416
01:28:56,197 --> 01:28:59,872
Bu, albatta, eng yaxshi narsa
har birimiz qila olamiz,

1417
01:28:59,901 --> 01:29:02,643
materiallar bilan, ular bilan o'ynash.

1418
01:29:02,670 --> 01:29:07,449
Formaga qadar ular bilan o'ynang
ta’sir qila boshlaydi.

1419
01:29:07,475 --> 01:29:11,355
Va u mutlaqo
o'ynashni to'xtata olmadi.

1420
01:29:11,379 --> 01:29:14,826
Va menimcha, bu uning hayotini saqlab qoldi.

1421
01:29:14,849 --> 01:29:17,125
HESSE: <i>Energiya etishmasligi
Menda bor, qarama-qarshidir</i>

1422
01:29:17,151 --> 01:29:19,529
<i>ruhiy energiya, qayta tug'ilish,</i>

1423
01:29:19,554 --> 01:29:22,091
<i>qayta yashashni boshlash istagi,</i>

1424
01:29:22,123 --> 01:29:26,902
<i>yana ishla, ko'r, sevgi.</i>

1425
01:29:26,928 --> 01:29:30,273
<i>Men javob berish uchun uyqu bilan kurashaman
bu haqiqiy hayajon</i>ga

1426
01:29:30,298 --> 01:29:34,576
<i>bu xafa, chunki
Men qila oladigan juda oz narsa bor.</i>

1427
01:29:34,602 --> 01:29:37,139
ROBERT: <i>Oh, shunday bo'lardi
taslim bo'lish va aytish juda oson,</i>

1428
01:29:37,171 --> 01:29:39,344
“Men hammasiga dosh berolmayman
bu salbiy narsalardan,

1429
01:29:39,374 --> 01:29:41,411
"Men o'z ishim haqida o'ylay olmayman,

1430
01:29:41,442 --> 01:29:45,322
"Shunday ekan, men diqqatimni jamlayman
mening tibbiy muammolarim haqida."

1431
01:29:45,346 --> 01:29:48,884
<i>Lekin Eva hamma narsaga ega bo'lishni talab qildi.</i>

1432
01:29:48,916 --> 01:29:50,156
SYLVIA: <i>Menimcha, u buni qildi, chunki</i>

1433
01:29:50,184 --> 01:29:52,460
<i>u yana nima qilishni bilmas edi.</i>

1434
01:29:52,487 --> 01:29:55,593
Uni tirik his qildi.

Bu uning tirikligini his qildi, to'g'rimi.

1435
01:29:55,623 --> 01:29:57,660
Uning ajoyib rassom bo'lish imkoniyati

1436
01:29:57,692 --> 01:29:59,433
uning ustida edi va u buni bilardi.

1437
01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:01,235
U qilayotganini bilardi
haqiqatan ham yaxshi ish.

1438
01:30:01,262 --> 01:30:04,038
Va, albatta, hamma shunday edi
ham juda qo'llab-quvvatlamoqda.

1439
01:30:04,065 --> 01:30:07,535
Bilasizmi, ko'p narsa juda yaxshi
taniqli rassomlar, bilasizmi,

1440
01:30:07,568 --> 01:30:09,980
uni juda yaxshi ko'rishardi
va unga haqiqatan ham aytdim

1441
01:30:10,004 --> 01:30:12,610
Bu ajoyib, davom eting,
bu ajoyib.

1442
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,119
Shunday qilib, kulgili tarzda,

1443
01:30:14,142 --> 01:30:16,383
ajoyib vaqt edi
uning hayoti haqida, menimcha.

1444
01:30:21,716 --> 01:30:24,424
JOHNS: <i>U Boweryga qaytib keldi,
va u meni chaqirdi,</i>

1445
01:30:24,452 --> 01:30:29,094
va bu shunchaki: "Ketaylik,
Keling, ishga kirishaylik."

1446
01:30:29,123 --> 01:30:32,161
<i>Keyin biz qila boshladik
o'sha haykal darhol keyin.</i>

1447
01:30:36,597 --> 01:30:37,803
<i>Ko'p energiya bor edi.</i>

1448
01:30:37,832 --> 01:30:40,142
<i>Biz kulib, kulib turardik
bu ajoyib vaqt.</i>

1449
01:30:40,168 --> 01:30:42,307
<i>Narsalar hamma joyda tomchilab turardi.</i>

1450
01:30:42,336 --> 01:30:45,943
<i>Va bu shunchaki, bu ajoyib
o'rgimchak to'riga o'xshash narsa</i>

1451
01:30:45,973 --> 01:30:47,350
<i>butun xonada.</i>

1452
01:30:47,375 --> 01:30:49,787
<i>Biz qiyin vaqtni boshdan kechirdik.</i>

1453
01:30:49,811 --> 01:30:52,485
HESSE: <i>Atrofga chiqish,
narsalarni ko'tarish,</i>

1454
01:30:52,513 --> 01:30:55,289
<i>harakat qildi, aylanib chiqdi va osildi.</i>

1455
01:30:55,316 --> 01:30:58,593
<i>To'rt qo'l o'zgaradi,
o'zgarishlarni manipulyatsiya qilish.</i>

1456
01:30:58,619 --> 01:31:01,566
<i>Ruxsat beradigan narsalar, sodir bo'ladigan narsalar.</i>

1457
01:31:01,589 --> 01:31:05,162
<i>Toʻxtatib qoʻyilgan osib qoʻyishni yoqish
o'zlari davom ettirish uchun,</i>

1458
01:31:05,193 --> 01:31:07,036
<i>ulang va ko'paytiring.</i>

1459
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,947
GOLDMAN: <i>U bu tuyg'uni qabul qildi,</i>

1460
01:31:15,970 --> 01:31:19,440
<i>saraton operatsiyasidan so'ng.</i>

1461
01:31:19,474 --> 01:31:22,353
Chandiqlar va parik kiyish

1462
01:31:22,376 --> 01:31:26,256
va bu nimani anglatardi,
Endi u bema'nilikka ega edi.

1463
01:31:27,348 --> 01:31:29,794
Evada bema'nilik bor edi.

1464
01:31:29,817 --> 01:31:33,731
<i>Shunday qilib, u hammasini oldi
va uni o'sha qismga qo'ying.</i>

1465
01:31:34,922 --> 01:31:38,870
<i>Uning Sassoonning dahshatli pariklari bor edi.</i>

1466
01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:41,237
<i>Lekin u bu haqda kuladi.</i>

1467
01:31:41,262 --> 01:31:43,264
Men tashrif buyurganimni eslayman
u kasalxonada

1468
01:31:43,297 --> 01:31:44,970
va parugidan qamchi olib

1469
01:31:44,999 --> 01:31:46,273
katta g'urur bilan ayting va

1470
01:31:46,300 --> 01:31:48,610
— Qarang, men qanday kal ko'rinaman.
(KULAYDI)

1471
01:31:48,636 --> 01:31:50,741
U buni juda kulgili deb o'yladi.

1472
01:31:50,771 --> 01:31:52,341
Shunday og'ir yilda,

1473
01:31:52,373 --> 01:31:53,909
juda ko'p operatsiyalar bilan

1474
01:31:53,941 --> 01:31:56,012
va juda ko'p narsalar noto'g'ri ketmoqda,

1475
01:31:56,043 --> 01:32:01,891
um, bizda juda ko'p edi
yaxshi vaqtlar. Ajoyib!

1476
01:32:01,916 --> 01:32:04,328
Va men buni haqiqatan ham nimadir deb hisoblayman,

1477
01:32:04,352 --> 01:32:06,263
men shunchaki qilayotgan edim

1478
01:32:06,287 --> 01:32:09,598
va u tabiiy ravishda qildi,
lahzada yashash kerak edi.

1479
01:32:13,461 --> 01:32:16,840
HESSE: <i>Albatta bor
yozish va ishlash istagi.</i>

1480
01:32:16,864 --> 01:32:18,639
<i>Men boshlay olmayapman.</i>

1481
01:32:18,666 --> 01:32:21,875
<i>Kunlar o'tadi. Men buni juda kam qilaman.</i>

1482
01:32:24,605 --> 01:32:27,381
<i>Menda lenta suhbati bor edi
Sindi Nemser bilan.</i>

1483
01:32:27,408 --> 01:32:29,285
<i>Uch xil kun.</i>

1484
01:32:30,711 --> 01:32:33,282
(TASPDA NEMSER) <i>Oh, menda bor edi
sizga yaxshi savol.</i>

1485
01:32:33,948 --> 01:32:35,450
(gapirish)

1486
01:32:38,185 --> 01:32:39,721
(GESSE GAPIRISH)

1487
01:33:23,331 --> 01:33:26,801
SUSSMAN: Nomsiz arqon
Parcha <i>oxirgidan keyingi</i>

1488
01:33:26,834 --> 01:33:28,211
<i>haykaltaroshlikning asosiy asari</i>

1489
01:33:28,235 --> 01:33:30,511
<i>o'z hayotida yaratilgan Eva Hesse.</i>

1490
01:33:30,538 --> 01:33:33,417
<i>Va bu uning eng yaxshi asari bo'lishi mumkin.</i>

1491
01:33:33,441 --> 01:33:35,148
<i>U bu asarni yasashni tasvirlaydi</i>

1492
01:33:35,176 --> 01:33:37,656
xoreografiyaning bir turi sifatida.

1493
01:33:37,678 --> 01:33:42,093
<i>U arqonni cho'mdirayotgan edi,
lateks chelaklariga,</i>

1494
01:33:42,116 --> 01:33:44,096
<i>va keyin yordamchi bilan ishlash</i>

1495
01:33:44,118 --> 01:33:48,396
<i>va uni osib qo'yish
uning studiyasining rafters.</i>

1496
01:33:48,422 --> 01:33:54,771
Demak, bu serendipity
topilgan materialni olish,

1497
01:33:54,795 --> 01:33:59,676
<i>uni qayta ishlash va ruxsat berish
tortishish o'z ishini qiladi.</i>

1498
01:33:59,700 --> 01:34:02,943
HESSE: <i> tartibsiz osilgan,
bog'lanish sifatida tugunlarni bog'lash,</i>

1499
01:34:02,970 --> 01:34:06,042
<i>haqiqatan ham uni qo'yib yuborish kerak,</i>

1500
01:34:06,073 --> 01:34:07,984
<i>ko'proq aniqlash imkonini beradi</i>

1501
01:34:08,009 --> 01:34:10,455
<i>uning o'zini yakunlash yo'li.</i>

1502
01:34:10,478 --> 01:34:16,485
<i>Shaklsiz, rejalashtirilmagan,
san'atsiz, hech narsa emas.</i>

1503
01:34:27,194 --> 01:34:31,336
SEROTA: <i>U undan foydalanayotgan edi
o'z tanasi, o'z tajribasi,</i>

1504
01:34:31,365 --> 01:34:36,246
masalalar bilan shug'ullanadi
o'z o'limidan.

1505
01:34:37,204 --> 01:34:39,309
<i>Bu bilan kelishib olish.</i>

1506
01:34:43,644 --> 01:34:45,681
CHARASH: <i>Bu unchalik emas edi
undan keyin uzoqroq,</i>

1507
01:34:45,713 --> 01:34:47,852
u shoshib qoldi
Nyu-York kasalxonasiga,

1508
01:34:47,882 --> 01:34:49,759
chunki u chidab bo'lmas og'riqni boshdan kechirdi.

1509
01:34:50,751 --> 01:34:52,890
HESSE: <i>Yana vaqt keldi.</i>

1510
01:34:53,821 --> 01:34:56,597
<i>Menda boshqa miya shishi bor.</i>

1511
01:34:57,892 --> 01:35:01,101
CHARASH: <i>U operatsiya qilindi,
29 mart</i>da

1512
01:35:01,128 --> 01:35:03,768
Bu operatsiyaning ta'siri bor edi.

1513
01:35:03,798 --> 01:35:07,177
Operatsiyadan keyin u buni yo'qotdi.

1514
01:35:07,201 --> 01:35:10,944
Qaror Xelen tomonidan qabul qilindi

1515
01:35:10,971 --> 01:35:15,647
Evaga u ekanligini aytmaslik uchun
kasal bo'lib, o'ladi.

1516
01:35:17,011 --> 01:35:19,685
TIMPANELLI: <i>Men u erda bo'lganman
– deb so‘radi u shifokor</i>dan

1517
01:35:19,714 --> 01:35:21,284
<i>bu yana qaytib keladimi?</i>

1518
01:35:21,315 --> 01:35:23,022
<i>Biz qo'l ushlagan edik.</i>

1519
01:35:23,050 --> 01:35:25,189
Va u: “Ha,
bu o'smaning turi

1520
01:35:25,219 --> 01:35:26,892
"Bu yana qaytib kelishi mumkin."

1521
01:35:26,921 --> 01:35:28,457
(Tanrifsiz Mingladi)

1522
01:35:28,489 --> 01:35:30,594
Bu shunday edi. U bilardi.

1523
01:35:30,624 --> 01:35:32,763
Odamlar: “Voy, u bilmagan ekan”, deyishdi.
Albatta bilardi.

1524
01:35:33,828 --> 01:35:37,275
HESSE: <i> Men bilardim. Qo'rquv yo'q.</i>

1525
01:35:37,298 --> 01:35:40,040
<i>Men o'limdan qo'rqmadim.</i>

1526
01:35:40,067 --> 01:35:43,139
<i>U erda ekanligini bilardim, bo'lishi ham mumkin.</i>

1527
01:35:44,305 --> 01:35:45,943
<i>Lekin men qo'rqmadim.</i>

1528
01:35:50,711 --> 01:35:52,622
TIMPANELLI: <i>U bo'lganida
kasalxonaga uchinchi marta,</i>

1529
01:35:52,646 --> 01:35:54,091
<i>Men tashrif buyurishga bordim.</i>

1530
01:35:54,115 --> 01:35:55,492
U o‘zini yaxshi his qilardi.

1531
01:35:55,516 --> 01:35:58,463
U o'tirardi.
Uning gazeta qog'ozi bor edi

1532
01:35:58,486 --> 01:36:01,262
va u nimadir qildi.

1533
01:36:01,288 --> 01:36:03,131
<i>Va u: "Mana, nima deb o'ylaysiz?"</i> dedi

1534
01:36:03,157 --> 01:36:05,296
<i>Men aytdim: “Ular bir to'da oyoqqa o'xshaydi.
Bu nima?"</i>

1535
01:36:05,326 --> 01:36:06,703
<i>Va u kulib yubordi. U aytadi,</i>

1536
01:36:06,727 --> 01:36:09,606
"Oh, men o'ylamagan edim ...
Oh, ular oyoqlar. Bu ajablanarli emasmi ... "

1537
01:36:09,630 --> 01:36:12,270
Va biz kuldik va u
kichik model yasadi.

1538
01:36:16,170 --> 01:36:18,673
<i>Va keyin, albatta, u qildi
bu ajoyib haykal.</i>

1539
01:36:47,902 --> 01:36:49,882
JOHNS: <i>O'sha paytda u juda kasal edi</i>

1540
01:36:49,904 --> 01:36:52,043
<i>va u ishlay olmadi.</i>

1541
01:36:52,072 --> 01:36:55,610
<i>Lekin uning bir nechta shogirdi bor edi
Bu yulduz o'quvchilar edi,</i>

1542
01:36:55,643 --> 01:36:57,054
<i>va ular asar yasadilar.</i>

1543
01:37:03,784 --> 01:37:05,525
TIMPANELLI: <i>Ularni qo'yishdi
juda ko'p tartibda.</i>

1544
01:37:05,553 --> 01:37:07,464
<i>U dedi: "Oh, men xohlamayman
ularni shu tartibda."</i>

1545
01:37:07,488 --> 01:37:09,331
<i>U ko'proq bema'nilikni xohlardi.</i>

1546
01:37:10,925 --> 01:37:14,270
U Steuben Glassda shou qildi,

1547
01:37:14,295 --> 01:37:17,037
Beshinchi avenyu va 57-ko'chada.

1548
01:37:17,064 --> 01:37:20,705
<i></i> Yetti qutb <i>bunday edi
ko'rsatish va shu bilan birga,</i>

1549
01:37:21,802 --> 01:37:23,543
u <i>Artforum</i>ning muqovasi edi

1550
01:37:24,939 --> 01:37:27,886
Kontingent <i>yoqildi
muqovasi</i>Artforum.

1551
01:37:27,908 --> 01:37:31,446
<i>Va bu o'sha paytda edi
u haqiqatan ham kopasetik emas edi.</i>

1552
01:37:31,946 --> 01:37:33,289
<i>Biz buni hal qilamiz.</i>

1553
01:37:33,314 --> 01:37:36,659
Biz uni to'shagining ro'parasiga skotch bilan yopishtirdik.

1554
01:37:36,684 --> 01:37:40,154
Va bir nuqtada u aytadi:
"Bu. Bu men."

1555
01:37:49,463 --> 01:37:53,639
HESSE: <i>Men baxtsiz emasman, umuman emas.</i>

1556
01:37:53,667 --> 01:37:56,170
<i>Men o'tmishga qarayman
uch yarim yil</i>

1557
01:37:56,203 --> 01:37:58,683
<i>bir xil hayrat bilan.</i>

1558
01:37:58,706 --> 01:38:01,585
<i>Bularning barchasi amalga oshdi.</i>

1559
01:38:01,609 --> 01:38:04,249
<i>Mening tashqi va ichki o'zgarishlarim.</i>

1560
01:38:06,447 --> 01:38:07,892
<i>Men faxrlanishim mumkin.</i>

1561
01:38:10,284 --> 01:38:15,734
CHARASH: <i>Eva 29-may kuni vafot etdi,
1970, juma kuni.</i>

1562
01:38:15,756 --> 01:38:17,963
<i>U 34 yoshda edi.</i>

1563
01:38:23,731 --> 01:38:26,803
LEWITT: <i>Hurmatli Greys, men telegramma oldim</i>

1564
01:38:26,834 --> 01:38:28,211
<i>Evaning o'limi haqida Helendan</i>

1565
01:38:28,235 --> 01:38:29,771
<i>shanba kuni bu erga kelganimda.</i>

1566
01:38:30,704 --> 01:38:32,274
<i>Men juda xafaman.</i>

1567
01:38:32,306 --> 01:38:33,614
<i>Siz ham shunday bo'lishingiz kerak.</i>

1568
01:38:34,875 --> 01:38:38,345
<i>U yaxshi do'st edi,
ikkalamiz uchun eng yaxshi do'st.</i>

1569
01:38:39,380 --> 01:38:40,757
<i>U hali ham uyga tushmadi, chunki</i>

1570
01:38:40,781 --> 01:38:43,227
<i>Uni ko'rish va gaplashish uchun u erda emasman.</i>

1571
01:38:43,250 --> 01:38:45,730
<i>Men buni amalga oshirish mumkinligini tushunganimda
boshqa hech qachon sodir bo'lmaydi,</i>

1572
01:38:45,753 --> 01:38:47,494
<i>Yuragim eziladi.</i>

1573
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:50,898
<i>Sevgi, Sol.</i>

1574
01:39:27,594 --> 01:39:31,303
CHARASH: <i>Shunga qaramay
Eva Hesse ko'rgazmalari</i>ni o'tkazdi

1575
01:39:31,332 --> 01:39:34,836
<i>butun dunyoda bu alohida ahamiyatga ega,</i>

1576
01:39:34,868 --> 01:39:37,974
<i>balki ko'proq hissiy,
chunki bu shahar</i>dir

1577
01:39:38,005 --> 01:39:39,780
<i>Eva va men qaerda tug'ilganmiz.</i>

1578
01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:08,408
FILLIDA BARLOW: <i>Men birinchi marta duch kelganman
Eva Hessening ishi,</i>

1579
01:40:08,435 --> 01:40:12,383
va bu och odamni ovqatlantirishga o'xshaydi.

1580
01:40:12,406 --> 01:40:16,320
Bu men kutgan narsa edi.

1581
01:40:18,445 --> 01:40:20,891
<i>U menga yana aytyapti,</i>

1582
01:40:20,914 --> 01:40:23,895
<i>ish sizdan kelishi mumkin.</i>

1583
01:40:23,917 --> 01:40:28,161
<i>Va bu chuqur ma'noga ega
yaqinlik va bu yaqinlik.</i>

1584
01:40:28,188 --> 01:40:31,226
<i>Siz hali ham borligini his qilishingiz mumkin
qilish harakati haqida.</i>

1585
01:40:32,092 --> 01:40:35,096
Rassom u erda, ko'milgan

1586
01:40:35,129 --> 01:40:37,006
nimada, nimaga qarayapsiz.

1587
01:40:41,568 --> 01:40:44,412
Bu eng hayajonlilaridan biri
rasm chizishni oladi,

1588
01:40:44,438 --> 01:40:47,112
Men so'nggi bir necha yil ichida ko'rgan narsa.

1589
01:40:47,141 --> 01:40:49,121
<i>Ko'rish juda yaxshi
juda moddiy narsa</i>

1590
01:40:49,143 --> 01:40:51,316
<i>va juda yorqin va jozibali.</i>

1591
01:40:55,649 --> 01:40:57,185
LIPPARD: <i>U bir qismi
tarix, hozir. Aytmoqchimanki,</i>

1592
01:40:57,217 --> 01:40:59,527
u yosh rassomlardan biri

1593
01:40:59,553 --> 01:41:01,897
har doim bilib oladi,
bu ajoyib.

1594
01:41:03,357 --> 01:41:07,396
SEROTA: <i>Men o'ylamayman
ish hali to'liq hazm qilingan.</i>

1595
01:41:07,428 --> 01:41:09,203
<i>Bu hali ham kutilmagan hodisalarga to'la.</i>

1596
01:41:10,964 --> 01:41:13,376
Undan chiqish uchun ko'p narsa bor.

1597
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:18,975
<i>Shunday qilib, men xulosa deb o'ylayman
o'sishda davom etadi.</i>

1598
01:41:19,006 --> 01:41:23,352
To'lqinlar kelishda davom etadi
<i>Ringaround Arosie.</i>dan

1599
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:39,433
1972 yilda Guggenxaym
xotira ko‘rgazmasi tashkil etildi.

1600
01:41:39,460 --> 01:41:41,599
<i>Va bu aql bovar qilmas edi.
Bu butun Guggenxaym edi.</i>

1601
01:41:48,569 --> 01:41:52,107
Men hammamiz buni tushunmadik deb o'ylamayman
bu ish qanchalik yaxshi edi.

1602
01:41:52,139 --> 01:41:55,348
<i>Bilasizmi, demoqchimanki,
Bu besh yillik ish edi.</i>

1603
01:41:55,375 --> 01:41:56,854
<i>Mening Guggenxaymda namoyishim bor edi</i>

1604
01:41:56,877 --> 01:41:58,879
<i>taxminan besh yillik ish.</i>

1605
01:41:58,912 --> 01:42:01,222
Va bu bitta uzuk atrofida edi
muzey, bilasizmi?

1606
01:42:02,816 --> 01:42:05,592
<i>Nima tovushini ko'rsangiz</i>

1607
01:42:05,619 --> 01:42:08,600
<i>Eva buni uddalay oldi
o'sha vaqt ichida,</i>

1608
01:42:08,622 --> 01:42:10,624
<i>bu sizni anglab etadi</i>

1609
01:42:10,657 --> 01:42:12,898
<i>besh yil ichida nima qila olasiz.</i>

1610
01:42:15,362 --> 01:42:17,535
GOLDMAN: <i>Hammasi
u bilan sodir bo'ldi,</i>

1611
01:42:17,564 --> 01:42:20,340
yaxshi yoki yomon, unga kuch berdi.

1612
01:42:20,367 --> 01:42:25,077
San'atning ulug'vorligi ham shunda.

1613
01:42:31,912 --> 01:42:34,290
WAPNER: <i>Haqida borligini eslayman</i>

1614
01:42:34,314 --> 01:42:37,056
uch yoki to'rttamiz,
atrofida o'tirib gaplashadi.

1615
01:42:38,051 --> 01:42:40,998
Va u o'z ishini tasvirlab berdi

1616
01:42:41,021 --> 01:42:44,628
va u qanchalik vaqtinchalik edi,

1617
01:42:44,658 --> 01:42:48,731
va u qanday emas edi
davom etishi bilan bog'liq.

1618
01:42:48,762 --> 01:42:51,606
Va materiallar yomonlashishi mumkin

1619
01:42:51,632 --> 01:42:54,044
paketning bir qismi edi.

1620
01:42:54,067 --> 01:42:59,073
Va u: "Bu stakanni ko'ryapsizmi?"

1621
01:42:59,106 --> 01:43:04,317
Va u uni qarshi tashladi
kamin va u sindi.

1622
01:43:04,344 --> 01:43:07,450
Va u: "Mening ishim shunday", dedi.

1623
01:43:09,683 --> 01:43:11,390
HESSE: <i>Hayot davom etmaydi.</i>

1624
01:43:15,389 --> 01:43:17,733
<i>San'at davom etmaydi.</i>

1625
01:43:23,297 --> 01:43:25,402
<i>Bu muhim emas.</i>