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TELEWIZJA POLSKA presents
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a film from the DECALOGUE series
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DECALOGUE EIGHT
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Screenplay
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Good morning.
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Good morning.
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Off on a trip this early
or just back from one?
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Just back from Szczecin.
My goodness!
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You struck lucky?
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A series commemorating the 1931
German flight over the North Pole.
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Polarfahrt.
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- By zeppelin?
- Three zeppelins! My goodness!
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You must drop by
and show them to me. Goodbye!
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Goodbye!
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I'll do that.
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- Good morning.
- Good morning Professor.
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The Dean would like a word with you.
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Good morning, Professor.
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We met in America.
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Am I right?
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You translated my works,
if my memory serves?
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Almost all of them.
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You speak Polish so well.
And here I've been grappling with English.
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Grappling very well.
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Mrs Loranc is here
under the exchange scheme.
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She's interested in your work.
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She'd like to attend your class.
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I'd be delighted.
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Will I see you today?
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If you agree.
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Excuse me for a moment.
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Mrs Elzbieta Loranc
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works in an American institute
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which studies the fates of Jews
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rescued from the Holocaust.
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Now back to our topic - the ethical hell.
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Who's first today?
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So far we've been presented
with two political stories for analysis
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and one which we'd best call moral.
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Go ahead.
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Take the following situation:
A man is dying of cancer.
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That's the third time
we've had cancer this year.
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He's being treated
by a first-rate doctor,
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who, a crucial point, is a Catholic.
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The doctor lives in the same building
as the patient and his wife.
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The wife begins waylaying the doctor
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to find out if her husband
is going to live or die
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and, if so, when.
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The doctor can't tell her.
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To tell her would be to pass sentence.
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Being a devout Catholic,
he can't do that.
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She becomes so persistent
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that the doctor suspects her
of having an ulterior motive.
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His suspicions are correct.
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The wife is pregnant by another man.
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Her husband doesn't know.
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It's also her first pregnancy.
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She'd been unable
to have children before.
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The woman loves
her newly conceived child.
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But she also loves her husband.
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If he doesn't die
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she'll be forced to get rid of the baby.
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If he does die, she can have the child.
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Like it or not, the doctor knows
the child's life is in his hands.
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I know how the story ends.
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Warsaw's a small place.
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To make it more difficult for you
- the child's alive.
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And that, perhaps,
is what matters most in this story.
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I'm too far away to record.
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I said that the child was alive,
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and that I thought
that was the most important thing.
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I want you to describe
the characters of the actors
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and their motives.
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What will be piquant is that
we both know the originals.
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Though I daresay,
not the same people.
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Yes, Professor.
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Thank you.
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Anyone else?
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In that case,
let's analyse the earlier stories.
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Yes?
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You said it was the life of the child
that mattered most.
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That's right.
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I thought...
That is if you don't mind me joining in?
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Of course not. We're all equal here.
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I'd like...
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I'd like to recount a certain incident.
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We'll be interested to hear it.
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My story has one drawback for you.
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It took place in the past.
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But it also has a virtue.
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It's a true story.
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Does what I said about the life of the child
has some kind of significance for you?
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Yes, it does.
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Some significance.
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It's 1943. February, depth of winter.
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The heroine is a 6-year-old Jewish girl
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hiding out
in the cellar of a Polish home.
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But she has to leave.
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Her father's in the Ghetto.
His friends look for a new refuge for her.
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They find a likely place.
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But the new caretakers insist on the girl
having a baptismal certificate.
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It's a cold dark evening.
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The girl and her guardian
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come to the home of the people
who've agreed to act as godparents.
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It's a young Catholic couple.
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The girl's frozen.
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It's taken her all afternoon
to cross the city.
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She and her guardian
enter the apartment.
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The husband's agitated,
the wife composed.
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They offer them tea.
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The girl could use it
but time's pressing.
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The priest's waiting
and the curfew's approaching.
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But instead of getting dressed to go out
the woman asks them to be seated.
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Excuse me!
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Please, leave!
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Thank you.
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You said that it was 1943?
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Yes, February 1943.
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In Warsaw?
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Yes.
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Odynca street in South Warsaw.
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What happened then?
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What happened... Yes.
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They sat down at a table.
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The man paces the room nervously.
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They eye one another.
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The woman decides to say
what the man couldn't bring himself to.
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That they have to go back
on their promise.
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On reflection they've found
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that it is not in them to lie
before the God in whom they believe.
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Who, it is true, enjoins mercy,
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but forbids the bearing of false witness.
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They knew the purpose of this lie
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but it was irreconcilable
with their principles.
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That was it.
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The girl and her guardian stand up.
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"Finish your tea,"
the woman says to the girl.
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She takes a sip from her cup,
but lowers it on catching her guardian's eye.
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Downstairs, she sees him halt
in the entrance to the building.
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"It's almost curfew," the girls says.
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But he goes on standing there.
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Was there anyone else...
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...in the apartment?
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An older man,
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in a wheelchair, I think,
with his back turned.
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Any specific details?
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The cups were good quality,
but each was different.
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A green kerosene lamp
stood on the table. It was unlit.
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Throughout the conversation
the man kept his hand in his pocket.
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That's all in the way of details.
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Does anybody have any questions?
No?
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Doubts?
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If that couple really were Catholics,
the motive's hard to believe.
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It wouldn't have been false witness
against somebody.
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It's the only one motive I know.
It seemed genuine enough then.
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What other motives could there be?
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What do you think?
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I don't know.
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I can't think of any
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that could justify such a decision.
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Yes?
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Fear. If they'd once seen the German
discover a Jewish child,
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smash its brains in
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and shoot the family harbouring it.
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Fear, yes.
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But is fear excuse enough?
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I was only suggesting a motive,
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not judging.
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We're speculating.
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I want you to give
your own individual accounts
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of the ethical issues that arise here.
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You will make out a plausible case
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for the woman's point of view.
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Try and understand her.
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Thank you.
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It wasn't...
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South Warsaw.
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No.
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Midtown.
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Noakowski street?
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Yes.
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It was you.
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Yes, me.
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And you're alive.
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All my life I've thought...
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Whenever I see someone playing
with a gold chain, I think, God...
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You're alive.
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I found a safe place across the river.
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Relatives of the man
who brought me to you.
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They were moonshiners.
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I lived with the mash for two years.
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They're with me in America.
Though the man's now dead.
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And you came over here...
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to watch my face...
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when you told that story.
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I almost told it
when you were in America.
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I made several attempts to write,
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I tried to come here.
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If it hadn't been
for your remark about the child...
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I'd never have...
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Yes, I understand.
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There's a theory that people
who rescue others have special traits,
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as do those who need rescuing.
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I guess so.
I guess there are such traits.
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You have them.
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Me?
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Yes.
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It's well known how you behaved
after the business with me.
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Because of you,
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a number of people from my world
are still alive.
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It's interesting how easily that girl
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saw through
that seemingly Catholic reasoning.
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The ashtray's there.
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You don't smoke.
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But I watch.
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Where are you staying?
Can I drop you?
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You once drove me
all the way across New York.
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I'm at the Victoria.
Barely 300 metres away, I'm afraid.
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Then why don't you come
and have supper with me?
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This is where you live?
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No.
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This is this place.
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Yes.
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It was here, in this gateway.
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You said: "Come on, it's almost curfew."
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Elzbieta!
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What the hell?
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I didn't hear it ring.
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I once...
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Excuse me,
but was there a woman here?
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No. Not for a long time.
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A number of families live here?
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Five! So ring the right bell.
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We don't get on too well.
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Come about the ad? Come on in.
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No, I'm looking for a friend.
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A woman, dark hair, tall.
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Bullshit.
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I'm looking for a friend...
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Bullshit.
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Is there another exit
from this gateway?
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- Come about the ad?
- No.
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No other exit.
This is a respectable house.
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A friend of mine came here.
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- About the ad?
- No. She hasn't come out.
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- Then she didn't come in.
- She did.
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Elzbieta!
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Bullshit!
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My God! I've been searching for you!
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I'm here.
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Your disappearance frightened me.
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I thought you hadn't been here.
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I'm here.
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A horrible place.
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I called at my old apartment.
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It was here that I saw my father's friend,
totally at a loss.
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I resolved that
I'd never be so afraid again.
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Why didn't you come here
for forty years?
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Didn't you want to see this place?
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No.
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It's too humiliating.
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Having to be helped?
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We don't like to see witnesses
of our humiliation.
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Even if they're only buildings.
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We investigate, analyse, describe...
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But how do you solve that injustice?
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Why can some be rescuers
and others can only be rescued?
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Do you know?
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No, I don't.
270
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Let's go.
271
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It's cosy here.
272
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,720
I'm on a diet.
273
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,320
I wasn't expecting anybody.
274
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,200
The person I remember couldn't
have grown into a woman like you.
275
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,640
But I did.
276
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,160
You gave me a scare.
277
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,600
Back there on Noakowski street.
278
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,240
I'm sorry.
279
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,920
If you've come thousands of miles
280
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,960
in the hope of learning some secret
281
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,120
you're going to be disappointed.
282
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,400
The reason why I had to...
283
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,560
get rid of you, are prosaic.
284
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,560
What that did to my life
is another matter.
285
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,160
But let's not go into that.
286
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,120
That man
287
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,120
who kept his hand in his pocket
was my husband.
288
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,760
He's been dead since 1952.
289
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,160
Yes, I know.
290
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:58,880
During the war
he was an officer in the Resistance.
291
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,160
We'd been warned that
the people you were going to
292
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,240
were Gestapo agents.
293
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,080
That you, the priest and your guardian
294
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,040
would lead the Gestapo to us,
to the organisation.
295
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,320
Arrests could have snowballed.
296
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,160
That's the whole secret.
297
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,080
So simple when you think about it.
298
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:40,560
Later it turned out that those people
had been wrongly suspected.
299
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:45,440
They came within an inch of execution
as traitors.
300
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,760
But you assumed...
301
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,360
Of course you did.
302
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,120
And you have lived with that certainty
for forty years.
303
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,880
While I didn't know you were alive.
304
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,160
I turned my back on you.
305
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,520
I sent you to almost certain death.
306
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,440
And I knew what I was doing.
307
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,080
Yes, you're right.
308
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,440
There's no cause,
no idea, there's nothing
309
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,680
that's more important
than the life of a child.
310
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,360
What do you tell your students?
311
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,960
How one should live?
312
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,760
I don't tell them.
313
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160
I try to help them
arrive there for themselves.
314
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,760
Arrive where?
315
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:17,880
At good.
316
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,360
It exists.
317
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,360
I believe it's there
in every human being.
318
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,520
Situations bring out good or evil.
319
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,560
That evening
didn't bring out the good in me.
320
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,320
Who is the judge of that?
321
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,360
The one who is inside each of us.
322
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,800
There's no reference to God
in your works.
323
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,120
I don't attend church.
324
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,560
I don't use the word "God".
325
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,080
Sometimes you don't need to use words.
326
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,720
People are free.
327
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,240
They can choose.
328
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,880
If they want to,
329
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,240
they can leave God
outside of themselves.
330
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,040
What's there instead?
331
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Loneliness here...
332
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,400
and there.
333
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,480
Go on, try and think it through.
334
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,480
If there is a void,
335
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,080
if there really is a void,
336
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,960
then in that case...
337
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,160
Yes. I should know.
338
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,880
Excuse me.
339
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,160
May I?
340
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,960
I didn't know you had guests.
Good evening.
341
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,840
I wanted to show you those stamps.
342
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,360
Beautiful. I mean it.
343
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,880
Please tell your son if you see him.
344
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,120
It always interested him.
345
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:43,400
Polarfahrt, three Zeppelins. 1931.
346
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,840
Exactly.
347
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,920
- Good night.
- Good night.
348
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,640
Thank you very much.
349
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,920
He collects stamps.
350
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,080
More than that, I think.
351
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,800
He shows them to me
the way people display their grandchildren
352
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,360
or snaps of their children.
353
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,320
He looked like a neighbour
in that sweater.
354
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,880
Yes, a neighbour.
355
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,640
As a matter of fact
the doctor and the patient
356
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,320
we were discussing at the seminar
357
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,640
also live in this building.
358
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,520
An interesting house.
359
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,320
No more than any other.
360
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,920
"Every house and every room
has people who..."
361
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,120
and so on and so forth.
362
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,520
Exactly.
363
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,240
Thank you.
364
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,240
The people I was going to be taken to,
365
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,200
do you know them?
366
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Yes.
367
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,880
If that was your question.
368
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Could I see them?
369
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:24,400
You'd like to?
370
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Very well. I'll take you there tomorrow.
371
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,160
A small tailor's shop across the river.
372
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,240
But I'll wait outside.
373
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,680
I've seen them only once since the war.
374
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,160
I said I was sorry.
375
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,280
It was all I could manage.
376
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,400
But it's not enough.
377
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,360
If it makes no difference to you,
378
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,360
why don't you stay the night here?
379
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,640
There's a spare room.
It's hardly ever used.
380
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Do you like that?
381
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,560
- Do you like that?
- What are you doing?
382
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,360
There's this guy on TV.
383
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,960
I'll prove I'm better.
384
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,720
That was the Rubber Stand.
He can't do it.
385
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,080
How do you do it?
386
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Anybody can. It's a matter of practice.
387
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,600
Bend over backwards.
388
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,080
A little more.
389
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,880
You can't?
390
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,360
Too bad. It's too late to learn now.
391
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,280
Excuse me.
392
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,720
Join me for breakfast?
393
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Something other than...
"Day 15: 50 g cottage cheese
394
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,960
and coffee without the sugar."
395
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,640
I'll eat.
396
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,240
- Like you, I rise early.
- I'll join you.
397
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,160
For a normal breakfast?
398
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,360
The room....
399
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,120
The room in which I slept,
was it your son's room?
400
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,960
Yes, his.
401
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,560
He doesn't live here, does he?
402
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,600
No. He didn't want to be with me.
403
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,520
It was you who bought the flowers?
404
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Yes.
405
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,360
I saw you putting fresh ones
on the table.
406
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,880
Thank you.
407
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,480
Where is he?
408
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,360
The shortest answer is,
a long way away from me.
409
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,120
This is it.
410
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,880
I'll do my shopping and collect you.
411
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,280
Can I help you?
412
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:59,640
I'd like to talk with you.
413
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Good God! With me?
414
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,280
I'm Elzbieta Loranc.
415
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:12,360
I don't know you.
416
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,560
We almost met during the war.
417
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,280
Wait a second. I don't want to talk
about what happened during the war.
418
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,960
I don't want to talk
about what happened after the war.
419
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:32,040
I don't want to talk about what's now.
420
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:38,600
I can make you a suit,
a coat, a costume.
421
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:41,120
Why don't you pick out a model?
422
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,480
You were to rescue me,
thank you for wanting to.
423
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,560
Got your own material?
424
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,200
It's hard to buy anything these days.
425
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,120
I was six then.
It was in February, 1943.
426
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,480
I was then...
427
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,360
twenty-two.
428
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,520
So what will it be? A coat?
429
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,560
You have very old magazines.
430
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,680
Would you be offended
if I sent you newer ones?
431
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:42,400
No. This one, too,
was brought to me from abroad.
432
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,440
But that was many years ago.
433
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,520
Later there were no opportunities.
434
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,520
You're sure
you don't want to talk to me?
435
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:57,480
Absolutely!
436
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:24,040
I hung around, just in case.
437
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,000
He wanted to make me a coat.
438
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,560
I thought he might.
He's been through a lot.
439
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,920
Too much, perhaps.
440
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,560
What a strange country this is!
441
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,400
You prayed yesterday.
442
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,520
Yes.
443
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,120
Cast
444
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,080
Directed by
445
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,400
Director of Photography
446
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,600
Music