1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,400 Are you like his boyfriend or something? 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:02,980 No, I'm like his pastor. 3 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:06,560 The kid's obviously freaking out. Does he really need some church guidance? 4 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:11,600 screwing them up even more. I don't just say I have faith. It is who I am. 5 00:00:11,900 --> 00:00:13,380 You know Jane was raised in the Mormon church. 6 00:00:13,620 --> 00:00:15,980 Well, they're not exactly big on the queers. 15 years. 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,520 14. 8 00:00:18,260 --> 00:00:21,940 I knew it was you the minute I saw you. I need you to confess this, Scott. 9 00:00:22,180 --> 00:00:23,300 But he already knows. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,420 Mom? Dad? 11 00:00:28,220 --> 00:00:29,220 Surprise. 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,780 The church is big on family values, yeah? 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,560 But what family? 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,840 Whose values? 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,840 There's the family we were born into. Boom meets egg. 16 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:54,100 Boom. 17 00:00:54,860 --> 00:00:57,000 Testing. One, two. Testing. 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Like, you can choose your friends. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,000 Testing. But you can't put your family in a rocket and send them to Mars. 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,580 Yeah, tell me about it. 21 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:07,900 Look at you. 22 00:01:08,420 --> 00:01:10,640 Sitting here like it's the most normal thing in the world. 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,720 Well, I could be more normal than having dinner with my family. 24 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:20,600 I don't know about you, but my family are my friends. 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,500 My real family. 26 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:24,820 Aw, love you, babe. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,700 Connected by common values and not by genetic accident. 28 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:29,980 Thanks for coming. 29 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:31,420 I'm Isla. 30 00:01:47,860 --> 00:01:49,000 How long are you with us? 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,260 Business didn't quite go to plan. A few curveballs. 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,740 I'll make up a spare bed then. 33 00:01:57,140 --> 00:01:59,060 Oh, no, I have a very nice hotel. Thank you. 34 00:01:59,420 --> 00:02:00,700 Oh, your family. 35 00:02:00,980 --> 00:02:01,980 That's his choice. 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,100 Hey, Paul, if you're free tomorrow, I could take you for a ticket tour through 37 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:10,100 the church grounds. 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Show you around. 39 00:02:11,420 --> 00:02:12,420 That'd be cool. 40 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:23,580 Hey, thanks for helping out. 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,880 No, thank you for the drink. Thanks for inviting me. It was really cool. My 42 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,880 pleasure, darling. 43 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:33,220 Me and Eden run a podcast. 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,580 You know, we talk about social issues that are cool. 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,900 Yeah, can I interview you? 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,800 I'm not that interested. 47 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:44,900 I disagree. I mean, you're an eval church dancer. 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,420 You can talk about that. 49 00:02:46,620 --> 00:02:49,020 Talk about your hopes and dreams and things like that. 50 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,360 I don't know. 51 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:52,020 It'll be easy. I mean, people will love you. 52 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,600 It's a bit flashed in the old place. 53 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:30,460 Praise the Lord. 54 00:03:35,060 --> 00:03:37,960 You have any idea how upset your mother was? 55 00:03:40,940 --> 00:03:42,800 We flew to Melbourne. We searched everywhere. 56 00:03:43,020 --> 00:03:46,960 We put out flyers. We went on the radio. Not so much as a word. Not for all 57 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,980 these years. Then you just, what, pop in for dinner like nothing's happened. 58 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,260 I was homesick. 59 00:03:55,770 --> 00:03:56,770 What do you want, fool? 60 00:03:58,850 --> 00:03:59,809 Hey, I've got a split. 61 00:03:59,810 --> 00:04:01,670 Call me. No, not tonight, though. 62 00:04:01,930 --> 00:04:02,930 What are you up to? 63 00:04:03,150 --> 00:04:06,550 Well, just go driving around, you know, checking on people and... Yeah, you can 64 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:07,990 delegate. Okay, man. 65 00:04:08,810 --> 00:04:10,610 I can always use an extra pair of hands. 66 00:04:11,490 --> 00:04:13,110 I do like to help down and out. 67 00:04:29,610 --> 00:04:34,690 In case you stumbled on this by accident, I'm Dana. And I'm Eden. Today, 68 00:04:34,690 --> 00:04:38,810 Closet is Occupied, we're taking pot shots at a vow church, an evangelical 69 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:42,830 megachurch with headquarters here in Auckland, with branches in Northland and 70 00:04:42,830 --> 00:04:45,210 Southland and even over the ditch in Australia. 71 00:04:45,570 --> 00:04:46,710 Are you feeling all right? 72 00:04:47,010 --> 00:04:48,010 Yes, sir. 73 00:04:49,730 --> 00:04:51,730 You know your son's really worried about you, eh? 74 00:04:52,970 --> 00:04:57,510 As it hung low, you have to keep a lookout because they can look like you 75 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:58,510 me. 76 00:05:07,020 --> 00:05:08,020 I don't eat meat. 77 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,360 It's full of hormones. 78 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,720 Makes your chillies grow. 79 00:05:12,260 --> 00:05:14,180 There's a vegetarian option in the van. 80 00:05:14,540 --> 00:05:15,540 Maybe. 81 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:21,720 So why do we care about a mega -rich church with tax -free status? 82 00:05:22,580 --> 00:05:23,580 Preach, sister. 83 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,360 It's our last prayer. 84 00:05:26,260 --> 00:05:27,260 Let's go get a drink. 85 00:05:27,780 --> 00:05:32,040 Well, amongst other things, this is the church that lobbied hard against same 86 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,040 -sex marriage. 87 00:05:33,060 --> 00:05:34,360 You were doomed to being at the altar. 88 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:37,100 Sadly. But only for the bling. 89 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,620 Every 90 00:05:41,620 --> 00:05:48,860 time 91 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:49,860 I pray. 92 00:06:04,220 --> 00:06:05,480 I just pray to be free. 93 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:14,940 What do you think he wants? 94 00:06:16,060 --> 00:06:17,060 Paul. 95 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,820 Perhaps God brought him back to us early. 96 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,320 God had much to say. 97 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,740 The deceased is yet to be identified, but we understand that they lived alone. 98 00:06:36,220 --> 00:06:39,120 The evidence has currently been collected behind me by a forensic... 99 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Gleeson's place. We'll have more information for you as soon as we 100 00:06:43,060 --> 00:06:44,320 I know, it's a cliche. 101 00:06:44,660 --> 00:06:46,740 Chinese students studying biochemistry. 102 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:47,839 That's okay. 103 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:49,100 It's okay. Someone has to, right? 104 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,280 Well, it would either be a doctor or a lawyer, but... You know, it's important 105 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,260 for my parents that I graduate with a degree that's actually useful. 106 00:06:56,500 --> 00:07:00,680 Am I right in thinking that biochemistry is not exactly your passion? 107 00:07:02,330 --> 00:07:03,330 Sorry, Mom. 108 00:07:03,890 --> 00:07:06,010 I'm still both of your parents. I'm still very proud. 109 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:08,630 Yeah. Yeah, they are. 110 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:12,390 You said you were from a small town? 111 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:16,110 Yeah, um, from Hong Kong to Wamburu a few years ago. 112 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:18,190 That must have been really hard adjusting here. 113 00:07:18,490 --> 00:07:19,890 Do you have any support networks? 114 00:07:21,370 --> 00:07:22,410 Got a few friends. 115 00:07:23,550 --> 00:07:25,070 Got... The church? 116 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:26,809 About church. 117 00:07:26,810 --> 00:07:28,610 You dance with about, right? Yeah, yeah, we do. 118 00:07:29,470 --> 00:07:32,750 Everyone, believe me, I've seen Leon dance and... Do not lie. 119 00:07:36,310 --> 00:07:38,530 Yeah, no, no, they've been wonderful. 120 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:40,650 Great. Really? 121 00:07:41,190 --> 00:07:42,190 Yeah. 122 00:07:42,730 --> 00:07:43,990 How does that work with being queer? 123 00:07:48,170 --> 00:07:49,170 Sorry, what? 124 00:07:49,450 --> 00:07:50,450 Being you. 125 00:07:50,930 --> 00:07:53,310 And being a part of a homophobic church. 126 00:07:53,570 --> 00:07:54,890 I mean, come on, isn't there a conflict? 127 00:07:55,510 --> 00:07:56,510 Dana. 128 00:07:58,890 --> 00:08:00,610 Oh, so it must be like gay don't say. 129 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,080 I never said I was gay. 130 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,360 Leon, we met at Queer Night. 131 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:09,960 Does the conversation of sexuality or gender come up? 132 00:08:10,260 --> 00:08:12,940 I mean, what do the people in your church have to say about it? 133 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:15,500 Church? Should I stop? It's okay, Leon. 134 00:08:15,860 --> 00:08:16,980 We'll edit it out. 135 00:08:17,260 --> 00:08:21,840 No. People need to understand. You need to understand the long -term damage that 136 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,540 the church has inflicted on us heathens. 137 00:08:33,740 --> 00:08:35,880 We're not editing anything out. This is gold. 138 00:08:37,380 --> 00:08:41,179 Are we just going to out him to the world? 139 00:08:41,419 --> 00:08:43,380 Like, Dana, that was really mean. 140 00:08:44,059 --> 00:08:45,260 Well, no, he's in denial. 141 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:47,100 The church is obviously fucking with his head. 142 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:50,760 Which means he's fucking vulnerable, Dana. Like... Yeah, you're right. 143 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,480 He needs our help. 144 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,180 I think you should probably leave. 145 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,440 What? 146 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,040 It's not even 9 .30 yet. I've got to take the van back. 147 00:09:05,420 --> 00:09:10,660 Your long -lost brother has just returned, and you've got to take the van 148 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Really? Come on. 149 00:09:12,540 --> 00:09:16,520 We have an incredibly well -thought -to minibar to drain back at the hotel room, 150 00:09:16,580 --> 00:09:20,040 and two very bangable girls. You don't want to help us do that. 151 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,100 I know, but... It's just... It's not my thing. 152 00:09:29,740 --> 00:09:30,740 Nah. 153 00:09:31,339 --> 00:09:34,560 No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Do not tell me. 154 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,320 Really? 155 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,920 Oh. 156 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,940 Look, you can't love everyone equally. 157 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,000 You love just one person physically. Oh, my God. Okay? 158 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,040 Good night. Be safe. Bye -bye. Have fun. 159 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,560 Good night, ladies. 160 00:10:24,939 --> 00:10:29,700 Yep. You still sound like a dick. Do you still want to do this? 161 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,760 Just upload it. 162 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:33,340 It's good. 163 00:10:33,860 --> 00:10:37,480 Really? I mean, it probably wouldn't be so bad if you actually explained why 164 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,860 you're so anti -religion. 165 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,160 Not relevant. 166 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Okay. 167 00:11:38,379 --> 00:11:41,620 I thought David was coming. 168 00:11:42,060 --> 00:11:44,540 Ah, David's going to meet us there. 169 00:11:45,370 --> 00:11:46,369 Okay? 170 00:11:46,370 --> 00:11:47,370 Come on. 171 00:11:47,410 --> 00:11:48,410 Working well, brother? 172 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:49,590 To this coast? 173 00:11:51,270 --> 00:11:52,270 I've been here. 174 00:11:59,830 --> 00:12:00,370 Welcome 175 00:12:00,370 --> 00:12:09,590 to 176 00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:10,590 the church men's group. 177 00:12:12,330 --> 00:12:14,430 Um, are you sure that I should... 178 00:12:15,319 --> 00:12:16,319 Be here. 179 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,760 You're a man. 180 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 To men's good. 181 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:01,300 Got the cat dragged down. 182 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,960 Isaac. 183 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:07,980 You're looking well. 184 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,720 So are you. 185 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:13,480 Well, cool. 186 00:13:22,460 --> 00:13:23,460 Hey, everyone. 187 00:13:24,340 --> 00:13:26,060 This is Paul. 188 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,000 He's an old friend from school. 189 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,119 All right. 190 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,200 Take a seat. Take a seat. 191 00:14:04,339 --> 00:14:05,339 Henry Gleeson. 192 00:14:05,860 --> 00:14:07,060 Our physical part. 193 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:14,040 It's important that the media don't connect him with us. 194 00:14:14,780 --> 00:14:16,000 That was 20 years ago. 195 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,580 He lived in one of our properties. 196 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:21,720 You pay him a stipend. 197 00:14:22,380 --> 00:14:23,380 It's not on the books. 198 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,940 You're too young to remember, but he had a breakdown. 199 00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:29,880 He got a bit messy, poor guy. He deserves some privacy. 200 00:14:32,490 --> 00:14:35,430 So if anyone inquires, don't engage, right? 201 00:14:36,090 --> 00:14:37,090 Throw them to me. 202 00:14:38,450 --> 00:14:39,450 Got it. 203 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:43,890 Did Paul say when he arrived in the country? 204 00:14:45,530 --> 00:14:47,290 No. A few days ago. 205 00:14:48,010 --> 00:14:49,010 I'll find out. 206 00:14:49,250 --> 00:14:53,230 Why? Where he's been living, who he's involved with, and if he's got any kind 207 00:14:53,230 --> 00:14:54,230 agenda. 208 00:14:57,690 --> 00:15:01,170 Today, we're here to provide a safe space, some help and support. 209 00:15:01,660 --> 00:15:02,660 For our young brother, Leon. 210 00:15:03,180 --> 00:15:06,800 He's been going through a few issues in life, and perhaps he could do with some 211 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,860 advice from some of your old brothers. 212 00:15:10,980 --> 00:15:12,040 Am I in the right place? 213 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,180 You're exactly where you're supposed to be, OK? 214 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:22,920 Hey, Leon, it's me, David. I'm just outside your dorm, and I was, um... 215 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,920 was just wondering if you still wanted to catch up. 216 00:15:27,140 --> 00:15:28,380 Cool. Let me know. 217 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,840 Hope you are. 218 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Bye. 219 00:15:35,820 --> 00:15:37,740 I was all wrapped up in myself. 220 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,360 I thought I was tough, real tough. 221 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,740 And it all turned to shit. 222 00:15:48,660 --> 00:15:49,660 Prison. 223 00:15:50,260 --> 00:15:51,260 Six years. 224 00:15:56,220 --> 00:16:00,080 I did stuff that I don't even want to think about. 225 00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:08,280 But my point is that being a man, Means stepping up taking ownership of our 226 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:14,940 mistakes Did I think about Sex 227 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:21,880 with men on the inside The environment 228 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:28,740 the pressure I Felt 229 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:30,360 sometimes I had no choice. 230 00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:32,500 It's such a hellish environment 231 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,560 But then I thought maybe God was testing me. 232 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,600 Because God tests us. 233 00:16:43,620 --> 00:16:47,940 He wants us to struggle. He wants us to prove ourselves. 234 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,180 Put your hand up if you struggled in here. 235 00:16:50,460 --> 00:16:51,460 Yeah? 236 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,540 I struggled. 237 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:00,580 And sometimes I fell. 238 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,020 But I prayed. 239 00:17:05,420 --> 00:17:10,280 And with the help of some good people around me, God answered. 240 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:16,020 Now I've got a beautiful wife. I've got three beautiful kids that I love more 241 00:17:16,020 --> 00:17:17,020 than anything. 242 00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:24,280 I've even got a people mover, which I don't love more than anything, but it 243 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,660 does come in handy with three kids. 244 00:17:27,619 --> 00:17:28,820 I would have nothing. 245 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,600 I would be nothing if I'd chosen a different lifestyle. 246 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:37,950 Leon, we're here to support you. 247 00:17:38,830 --> 00:17:42,270 We're here to help you choose the life that's best for you in the eyes of the 248 00:17:42,270 --> 00:17:43,270 Lord. 249 00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:46,530 I think we should wait for David. 250 00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:50,310 We don't need to wait for David. We're all here for you. 251 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:52,430 Do you know why? Because we believe in you. 252 00:17:53,370 --> 00:17:54,650 But you've got to talk to us. 253 00:17:56,130 --> 00:17:57,810 You've got to talk to us. You've got to let us in. 254 00:17:58,430 --> 00:18:00,290 Let us in so we can help you, yeah? 255 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:01,770 Yes, 256 00:18:01,870 --> 00:18:03,230 Leon, you can do this, okay? 257 00:18:07,130 --> 00:18:11,210 You can do this, okay? You can do this. I know you can. I see your potential, 258 00:18:11,470 --> 00:18:13,370 Leon. I see it in you. 259 00:18:13,690 --> 00:18:14,690 Look at everyone here. 260 00:18:14,930 --> 00:18:16,230 Look at everyone here. Look at them. 261 00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:18,810 They're all here for you because they believe in you, okay? 262 00:18:19,310 --> 00:18:21,750 We're all here for you, but you've got to fucking take a chance. 263 00:18:22,090 --> 00:18:23,950 You've got to fucking grow up a little bit, okay? 264 00:18:24,550 --> 00:18:27,690 Enough of this little boy stuff, okay? It's time to step up and become a 265 00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:28,690 man. 266 00:18:29,970 --> 00:18:30,970 Come on. 267 00:18:31,150 --> 00:18:32,109 Step up. 268 00:18:32,110 --> 00:18:33,110 You can do this. 269 00:18:33,670 --> 00:18:34,670 Leon. 270 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:35,950 Leon. 271 00:18:36,110 --> 00:18:37,990 Leon. Leon. 272 00:18:38,850 --> 00:18:40,790 Leon. Leon. 273 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:43,310 Leon. Leon. Leon. 274 00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:45,570 Leon. Leon. Leon. Leon. Leon. 275 00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:10,300 Christ took it. He was nailed up on a cross and a crown of thorns. 276 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,540 Taking a few punches is nothing. 277 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:13,860 Do it. 278 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,700 Do it again. 279 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,640 Look at me, Leo. Do it. 280 00:19:38,570 --> 00:19:43,850 Did Dana tell you I write and play my own stuff? You should come round and 281 00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:48,290 sometime. Yeah, we run workshops that work in collaboration with our music 282 00:19:48,290 --> 00:19:51,510 festival. Well, we've got a recording studio if you want to come and meet the 283 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:52,510 band. 284 00:19:52,790 --> 00:19:53,790 Yes, 285 00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:57,750 I totally will. Thank you. 286 00:20:01,670 --> 00:20:04,350 So, the interview about your church. 287 00:20:05,790 --> 00:20:06,790 Thanks, but... 288 00:20:08,970 --> 00:20:09,970 Why not? 289 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:11,250 It's not appropriate. 290 00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:13,430 What, are you ashamed or something? 291 00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:15,370 I've heard your podcast. 292 00:20:16,150 --> 00:20:17,910 I like it. It's smart. 293 00:20:18,290 --> 00:20:22,250 It's funny and sympathetic, but I know you don't want to hear about the good 294 00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:23,089 work that you do. 295 00:20:23,090 --> 00:20:25,150 I'd be giving you a chance to tell your side of the story. 296 00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:27,090 Well, I don't have a side. 297 00:20:28,350 --> 00:20:30,350 Well, I've already spoken to Leon. 298 00:20:32,090 --> 00:20:35,330 Okay, well, I hope you're kind to him. 299 00:20:36,430 --> 00:20:37,430 Excuse me? 300 00:20:37,790 --> 00:20:39,590 I could say the same about you and your church. 301 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:52,630 Well, that was pretty intense. 302 00:20:54,430 --> 00:20:56,550 Maybe next time we can help you work through your issues. 303 00:20:57,330 --> 00:20:58,330 My issues? 304 00:20:59,790 --> 00:21:00,790 What can I say? 305 00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:05,690 I'm rich. I'm happy. I, you know, do what I want when I want. I don't... 306 00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:07,390 I don't have any issues. 307 00:21:10,830 --> 00:21:11,830 You okay? 308 00:21:18,270 --> 00:21:20,350 You know, I was pretty fucked up when you left. 309 00:21:21,010 --> 00:21:23,790 I was out of control. 310 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:25,830 Yeah, but like you said, you're really good now, right? 311 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:27,470 Yeah. 312 00:21:28,430 --> 00:21:29,430 I'm good. 313 00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:31,010 Good? Thanks to Scott. 314 00:21:33,370 --> 00:21:34,650 He never gave up on me. 315 00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:41,120 scott started this men's group it's been a real lifesaver for heaps of us well 316 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,160 i'm glad he's helping somebody 317 00:22:12,970 --> 00:22:16,510 Just remember, God's always watching. 318 00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:17,850 Okay? 319 00:22:18,550 --> 00:22:19,550 Take care. 320 00:22:21,030 --> 00:22:22,510 See you on Sunday. 321 00:22:44,690 --> 00:22:46,050 Yeah, 322 00:22:47,150 --> 00:22:48,890 sure. It's a shirt. 323 00:22:51,810 --> 00:22:53,170 Mom. 324 00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:01,670 Why did you become a Christian? 325 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:08,350 Just wondering. 326 00:23:33,650 --> 00:23:34,870 Sorry to bother you work long. 327 00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:36,330 I love you 328 00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:11,260 He's done a great job. 329 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,660 I was going to book us into a Japanese restaurant, but we couldn't. 330 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,960 Do you guys remember when we used to play here all the time? 331 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,400 Yeah, I remember you always used to bring your blanket and your basket and 332 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,780 ace and your doll. 333 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,460 Yeah, we'd always have to do exactly what you say. No, I remember you always 334 00:24:28,460 --> 00:24:30,300 sneaking off and me always getting in trouble. 335 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,280 Domestic abuse. 336 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,840 Where's the men's group when you need it? 337 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:36,120 Tony. 338 00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:38,240 I went to one of those meetings today. 339 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,780 Don't imagine it's exactly your scene. 340 00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:42,500 It's more Dad's thing. 341 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,160 Goes with the whole tats and motorbikes and whatnot. 342 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,300 Correction. Affection. 343 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:54,200 Redirection. What? That's their mantra for a happy marriage, happy life. 344 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:56,640 How's it work for you in Seoul? 345 00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:01,160 How long have you been back, anyway? 346 00:25:03,150 --> 00:25:04,150 Couple of days. 347 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:09,830 Did you guys hear about Henry Boyson? 348 00:25:11,950 --> 00:25:12,950 That asshole. 349 00:25:13,710 --> 00:25:17,230 Probably retired in like Tauranga or Gold Coast or something. 350 00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:19,190 Who? David! 351 00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:24,470 He was a teacher of primary. 352 00:25:27,090 --> 00:25:29,450 He was murdered in his own home. 353 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:32,830 That's awful. 354 00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:38,310 Honestly, whoever killed him deserves a big fat medal. 355 00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:44,750 All right. 356 00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:48,770 Hang on. 357 00:25:53,370 --> 00:25:54,370 Yes, 358 00:25:54,650 --> 00:25:55,650 this is Zav Jacobson. 359 00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:43,860 What's this about? 360 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,200 Leon Chin. 361 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,780 Tried to kill himself. 362 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,260 He was at the men's group meeting this morning. 363 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:51,820 That's not relevant. 364 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,020 He had a pretty hard time with it. 365 00:26:55,060 --> 00:26:56,940 It's a prayer meeting in the chat, that's all. 366 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,520 How is he now? 367 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,080 Unconscious in the ICU, David's gone to the hospital. 368 00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:04,140 Oh, fuck. Should I be getting the lawyers involved? 369 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,480 No, not like that. 370 00:27:08,590 --> 00:27:09,850 Don't breathe a word of this to anyone. 371 00:27:10,050 --> 00:27:12,090 Oh, I figured that cat's well and truly out of the bag. 372 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:15,430 Doesn't conversion therapy illegal in New Zealand, though? 373 00:27:21,370 --> 00:27:22,650 Why do you do that? 374 00:27:23,170 --> 00:27:24,170 Wind him up? 375 00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:26,910 God, he really does just suck up all of the oxygen, doesn't he? 376 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:31,530 Must be hard being back. 377 00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:34,470 Prodigal son, right? 378 00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:36,950 I'm glad you're here, Cor. 379 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,340 Kids are out there, eventually have to sing to Haven. 380 00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:05,820 Husband. 381 00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:10,840 Is this how you want me? 382 00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:13,380 A good little handmaider? 383 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,400 What are you doing? 384 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:18,040 How about a little correction? 385 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,920 Yeah, yeah. 386 00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:21,420 Affection. 387 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:27,100 I know some of it's bullshit, but we help, we make a difference. 388 00:28:49,189 --> 00:28:52,210 Is that Leo? 389 00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:09,250 The avow church. 390 00:29:09,490 --> 00:29:10,990 It's just noise, darling. 391 00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:12,730 They're preaching to the converted. 392 00:29:13,770 --> 00:29:14,770 Now we can use this. 393 00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:18,090 Gift from God. 394 00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:31,070 Oh, fuck. 395 00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:34,310 Dana! 396 00:29:34,910 --> 00:29:35,990 Dana, get in here. 397 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:37,600 What? What is it? 398 00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:42,760 Our show is off the charts trending. Really? 399 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,200 That's good, isn't it? 400 00:29:47,260 --> 00:29:51,120 Uh, it's a classic good news, bad news situation. 401 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,960 What do you mean? 402 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,140 No, it's nothing. 403 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,600 Rude. I mean, this one's to rape your face. 404 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,720 Death threats. 405 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:05,480 I mean, okay, this one's just praying for you. 406 00:30:05,850 --> 00:30:06,409 I see. 407 00:30:06,410 --> 00:30:07,490 Some people like the show. 408 00:30:07,790 --> 00:30:09,010 Keep on trucking, sister. 409 00:30:09,230 --> 00:30:10,230 Fuck the patriarchy. 410 00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:11,550 Oh, it's my mother. 411 00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:14,050 Oh. 412 00:30:16,970 --> 00:30:18,370 What's this about a life stream? 413 00:30:20,210 --> 00:30:23,330 I hate to say, I told you so. 414 00:30:24,370 --> 00:30:25,970 For once, I don't want to be right. 415 00:30:26,890 --> 00:30:32,890 A young man, a loved and valued member of our congregation, is in hospital 416 00:30:32,890 --> 00:30:34,110 fighting for his life. 417 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,100 Now, we all know that suicide is a sin, but we have to ask why. 418 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,040 What drove this man to this desperate act? 419 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,360 Oh, shit. 420 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,720 Let me play you something. Hey, guys. Do you remember... Does the conversation 421 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,780 of sexuality or gender come up? 422 00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:53,420 I mean, what are the people in your church have to say about it? 423 00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:55,600 I never said I was gay. 424 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,300 Oh, fuck. 425 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,920 How's Leon? 426 00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:01,420 He's not out of the woods yet. 427 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,460 His mum's flying up today, so... I never said I was gay. 428 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,340 That's what he said. But they continued to hound him, to pressure this 429 00:31:12,340 --> 00:31:14,640 vulnerable young man to commit a desperate act. 430 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,720 The podcast is called The Closet is Occupied. 431 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,340 There's a link below to their social media. 432 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,920 I would encourage you, make your feelings known. 433 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,820 No such thing as bad publicity. 434 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,080 Join me now in prayer for this young man and his family. 435 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,220 Dear Lord, make known to them the path of life. 436 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,220 It wasn't my fault. 437 00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:43,340 I need to see if Leon's okay. 438 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,080 Have you got a few minutes to hear the word of our Lord? 439 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,960 No. 440 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:12,300 Protect them from the thief who comes only to steal and kill and destroy. 441 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:19,260 Jesus said, I came that they may have life and have it abundant. 442 00:32:22,420 --> 00:32:25,760 Now, if anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, 443 00:32:27,370 --> 00:32:29,050 Let them be under God's curse. 444 00:32:31,890 --> 00:32:33,390 For I am the good shepherd. 445 00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:38,690 I know my sheep and my sheep know me. 446 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,640 Very nice. 447 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,840 Bit of an upgrade than the bunk beds. 448 00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:16,020 Four of us fosterlings in one bedroom. 449 00:33:19,180 --> 00:33:20,180 You all right? 450 00:33:23,660 --> 00:33:25,160 Leon's been moved to a ward. 451 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,280 His mum's with him now. 452 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Well, that's good. 453 00:33:30,980 --> 00:33:31,980 Leon. 454 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,680 Is that his name? 455 00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:40,630 He was at the men's group. 456 00:33:41,530 --> 00:33:42,730 The young Asian guy, right? 457 00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:47,590 Shit, Isaac was riding him pretty hard. 458 00:33:48,670 --> 00:33:50,230 Why was Leon in the men's group? 459 00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:54,090 It was pretty bizarre. They said that they wanted to talk to him about some of 460 00:33:54,090 --> 00:33:55,470 his life choices. 461 00:33:57,330 --> 00:33:59,910 To be honest, it ended up a bit like a scene out of Fight Club. 462 00:34:01,130 --> 00:34:03,950 Sorry, David, I would have said something earlier, but I've literally 463 00:34:03,950 --> 00:34:05,850 connected the dots. 464 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,880 I was just calling to make sure you were okay. 465 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,320 If you're up for talking, I'm always here. 466 00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:28,820 Just give me a call. 467 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,420 Hey, do you think that was a bad time for me to message David? 468 00:34:36,820 --> 00:34:37,820 I've already tried. 469 00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:42,290 He said Leon was okay, but no need to tell him. Oh, sorry. No, I meant about 470 00:34:42,290 --> 00:34:46,230 maybe, like, jamming with the bands and getting some recording studio time. 471 00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:49,350 Un -fucking -believable. 472 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:54,590 But it's just going to be a really good opportunity for me. To sell your soul. 473 00:34:55,730 --> 00:34:56,730 Thanks for understanding. 474 00:34:56,989 --> 00:35:00,850 Why would they want to listen to your music? It's not exactly kumbaya. 475 00:35:01,230 --> 00:35:02,129 Well, it's spiritual. 476 00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:03,670 All your songs are about Hunter. 477 00:35:06,010 --> 00:35:07,150 Fuck you. No. 478 00:35:07,530 --> 00:35:08,530 Fuck you. 479 00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:14,460 Please don't do this, Dana. 480 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,720 I couldn't stand it if we weren't friends anymore. 481 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,080 I don't have to cry. 482 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,480 I'm just really upset. 483 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,740 Just because we're having an argument does not mean we won't be friends. 484 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:29,900 We probably just won't talk for a while and then catch up over some wine. 485 00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:32,299 It's okay. 486 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:33,300 I promise. 487 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,640 That's great. 488 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,160 I won't hassle David. 489 00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:51,680 I will just rock up. 490 00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,100 Shit! 491 00:35:54,540 --> 00:35:55,540 Holy shit! 492 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:56,720 Eden? 493 00:35:57,140 --> 00:35:58,160 Holy fuck! 494 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,160 Eden, are you okay? 495 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,700 Do I look okay? 496 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,000 Oh my god, you're bleeding. 497 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,880 Did you see who did it? We know who did this, Dana. 498 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,740 Oh, fucking... This has gotten way too out of hand. 499 00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:14,160 Maybe I can do a public retraction or apologize. 500 00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:19,430 Apologise to who? No, we'll give it back to them. It is so fucking odd. 501 00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:32,950 David, if you could tell these good officers how Leon Chang seemed the last 502 00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:33,950 you saw him. 503 00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:36,450 We're under no legal obligation. 504 00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:38,450 I just want to help clear things up. 505 00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:40,230 What about the men's room meeting? 506 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:43,290 Possibly Leon was there, so... 507 00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:46,690 What do you think, making trouble for your church will help them? 508 00:36:47,390 --> 00:36:51,210 I mean, it's spreading gossip, a way to honour your mother and father. 509 00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:55,170 No, good man. 510 00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:57,470 He's all yours. 511 00:37:01,370 --> 00:37:02,370 Quick word? 512 00:37:06,270 --> 00:37:07,270 Bob. 513 00:37:07,450 --> 00:37:08,450 Paul. 514 00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:10,490 You remember Senior Sergeant Bob Hench? 515 00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:11,828 How's it? 516 00:37:11,830 --> 00:37:12,990 You keeping out of trouble? 517 00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:17,120 Always. Makes a nice change, doesn't it? 518 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,360 I'll say. 519 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,920 As far as I can tell, there'll be no blowback on Henry Gleeson. 520 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,980 Nothing to link him to the church. 521 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,780 It's good to know. I mean, he left us 20 years ago. If the Liberal media didn't 522 00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:32,680 have their knives out, I wouldn't have even mentioned it. Not a problem. You 523 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,460 must remember Pastor Henry Gleeson from your school days, Paul. 524 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,400 Yes. 525 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,700 Someone attacked him. 526 00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:41,560 Literally beat him to death. 527 00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:46,720 Meth addicts, wouldn't you say? It seems likely. 528 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,880 It's a bloody scourge. 529 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,720 I won't hold you up. 530 00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:56,480 I hope to see you and Teresa in church soon, I hope. We'll be there. 531 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,340 So sorry about what happened. 532 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,320 Why weren't you at the meeting? 533 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:35,700 I had no idea that there was... I don't want you coming here. 534 00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:41,940 What did they say? 535 00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:49,700 They had no right to press you, okay? 536 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,520 I promise that I'll make this... You're right. 537 00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:56,180 They were trying to help me. 538 00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:00,500 I don't want to be gay. 539 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,440 But you are gay, Leon. 540 00:39:02,860 --> 00:39:08,020 I can choose a different way to be. I can choose to be normal. 541 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,100 But you're already normal. Please, just go. 542 00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:19,060 You must be Leon's mother. I'm David. 543 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:20,620 It's okay. 544 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:23,590 She was just leaving. 545 00:39:24,250 --> 00:39:25,250 Please, go. 546 00:39:25,390 --> 00:39:27,110 He does not need you to confuse him. 547 00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:29,890 No, that's not what I should do at all. He's a nice boy. 548 00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:33,010 You'll marry a nice girl and have a happy life. 549 00:39:33,350 --> 00:39:35,690 You must leave him alone and go away now. 550 00:40:18,609 --> 00:40:21,670 And here we are, Papa. 551 00:40:29,129 --> 00:40:31,050 This is not how I ever pictured you. 552 00:40:31,490 --> 00:40:32,970 I hate to think how you picture me. 553 00:40:36,070 --> 00:40:38,490 Um, what can I do for you? 554 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:41,930 I want to offer my services. 555 00:40:44,170 --> 00:40:45,570 I want to get involved in the church. 556 00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:47,930 You know, I'm great with finances. 557 00:40:48,350 --> 00:40:50,110 Fantastic in a room. I know how to close a deal. 558 00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:51,550 I think I could be an asset. 559 00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,800 Lord knows you could use all hands on deck given everything that's going on. 560 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,640 Does this mean you want to stay? 561 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:06,340 Well, things are in flux, but, um... Yeah, I really didn't realise how much I 562 00:41:06,340 --> 00:41:07,700 missed having family around. 563 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:14,800 Having you and David and Mum and... Yeah, so I just, I want to help out 564 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,800 can. 565 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,700 Well, it's not me you need to convince. 566 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:19,540 Oh, I know. 567 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,860 I think Scott really values your opinion, though, Ian. 568 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,280 You think so? 569 00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:25,380 Come on. 570 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,320 From what I've seen, you pretty much run the place, even if he's shit at saying 571 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,320 it. 572 00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:33,140 Must be in the blood. 573 00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:37,420 Want some juice? 574 00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:40,500 Yeah? 575 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,440 No. 576 00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:46,480 This one. Yeah? This one. Yeah. 577 00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:49,620 Yeah? We could also try saying something like... 578 00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:55,920 This is what happens when you challenge a vile church to stand on LGBTQI plus 579 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,920 issues? 580 00:41:57,260 --> 00:42:01,420 No. This is what happens when you challenge the church for fucking stuff. 581 00:42:01,940 --> 00:42:02,940 Oh, wow. 582 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,040 Yeah. 583 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,860 That's another Bible bash. I swear to God. 584 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,760 What? 585 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,960 Oh, dear. 586 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,520 Wait. 587 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,760 Look. 588 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,680 What happened to Leon? I... I didn't know. 589 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,300 It was your church fucking with his head. How could you not know? No, what 590 00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,700 happened wasn't part of my church, okay? 591 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,860 I think... I know that if we... 592 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:47,700 We could achieve much more, okay? If we just... If we 593 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:48,700 work together. 594 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:49,859 Right place. 595 00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:52,060 Keep up. High stakes. 596 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,540 High times with a high pace. 597 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,100 I like rice cakes on a nice plate. 598 00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:59,500 Come on in. 599 00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:19,800 No, no, no, no, no, no. It's all good. It's all good. 600 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,280 Get in your vehicle. 601 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:23,500 Do you feel me? 602 00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,040 I don't trust him. 603 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,280 He's family. 604 00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:28,760 I'm surprised you let yourself be manipulated so easily. 605 00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:32,660 Haven't there been enough secrets already? You're probably not a bad guy. 606 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,360 But your church is fucked and homophobic. Surely you've got to take 607 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,360 responsibility.