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This is Fred Heckman.
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You're listening to WIBC radio.
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Fred, we're all very excited,
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the possibility of you
joining us here in New York.
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You took the job?
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Honestly, I-I don't know.
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Do not turn down the CBS job
because of me, Fred Heckman.
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Tony! Sorry I'm late. Traffic.
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Well, I appreciate
you making the time, Dick.
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Indianapolis Police Department.
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I got a 12-gauge
sawed-off shotgun
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wrapped around a man's neck.
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Paul called in
during the meeting.
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He picked up a possible 134
on the police scanner.
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134, is that kidnapping?
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An armed man
entered Meridian Mortgage.
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-You got a name?
-Yeah, Tony Kiritsis.
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Fred, there's a call for you.
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No, I've gotta get on the air.
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It's Tony Kiritsis.
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This is Fred Heckman speaking.
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Let me tell you
'bout this motherfucker!
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He and his father, both of them
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are born-and-bred
cheats and liars.
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Are they planning
on foreclosing on you, Tony?
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You're goddamn right
they are, Fred!
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I want you to interview me
live on the air.
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We absolutely cannot
put this man on the air.
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You heard the mouth on him!
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The FCC fines alone,
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you know how much they
fuckin' charge for a "fuck"?
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$300?
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This is a family-fucking-
oriented radio station.
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If Tony decides to kill Dick
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in the middle
of your live interview,
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that is all you're gonna
be remembered for.
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This is gonna be your legacy.
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I would like
to caution our listeners
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that what you are about to hear
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will be an interview
with Tony Kiritsis.
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Oh, my god.
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After considerable debate,
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we here at WIBC have agreed
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to his request for an interview.
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Better get ready, Dick.
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If you are listening
to this program with children,
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I strongly urge you
to turn it off,
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right now.
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Hello, Tony.
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You are live and on the air.
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♪ WIBC ♪
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Tony, I want
to get back to something
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you mentioned to me
earlier, off the air.
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You said
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you wanted to talk
about your grievances.
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Your goddamn right I did, baby!
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These cocksuckers
never had any fucking intention
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of helping me develop my land.
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Any more "fucks,"
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and we'll be bankrupt by lunch!
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Can you bleep him?
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I can't predict
what he's gonna say, man.
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-Tell me more about your...
- Jesus fucking Christ.
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And keep in mind, Tony,
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we do have, uh, families
listening to the broadcast...
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so maybe be a little more
mindful of your vernacular.
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Vernacular, my ass!
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I need to hear this.
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Now, listen, listen.
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The Halls
are a three-headed devil dog.
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{\an8}They got a mortgage company,
they got a real-estate company,
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{\an8}and they also do construction,
all under the same roof.
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Now, you tell me,
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does that sound like
the fuckin' mafia to you?
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So their businesses
are intertwined,
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is that what you're saying?
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Hey, that's it!
That's exactly it!
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You see it!
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It's a typical bump-and-squeeze
type of operation
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that the Interstate Commerce
Commission tries to discourage.
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And here's the rub,
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they give you a mortgage
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just so they can
foreclose on you.
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Your contention
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is that they planned
to foreclose on you all along.
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Yeah! Yeah. Listen. listen.
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This man's father,
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real son-of-a-bitch
if you ever met one,
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promised me he would
help me develop the land,
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but he never had
any intention of doing so.
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Listen. Eisner-Osco Supermarkets
were prospective tenants.
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The Halls showed them
seven sites on the West Side,
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but not my site.
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They steered 'em away from me,
away from my American dream.
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I have proof, Fred.
Fred, I have proof.
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Now, why would
a mortgage company do that?
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So they can
pocket the land, Fred!
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That's the game!
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They set it up
so I'd have to foreclose,
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so they could buy it cheap
in a Sheriff's sale.
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They take your money
up the front,
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and your property at the end.
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They get that long-duck schlong
every which way!
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Fuck! Fuck!
Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!
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They're foreclosing
on me March 1st,
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and I'm trying to stop it.
I want an extension.
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I paid the interest.
I'm entitled to it.
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Fred, do you know what
this man's father said to me?
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You're talking about
M.L. Hall,
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Dick's father, and the owner
of Meridian Mortgage?
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That's right, yeah.
This man's father said to me,
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"Why should
I lend you more money?
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I'm gonna own that place
for $100,000."
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This man's father said to me,
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"Why should
I lend you more money?
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I'm making money on you now!"
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Listen, the only thing cheaper
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than what I done
with this shotgun
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is what they tried to do.
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I found that land!
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I found it,
and fuck it! Fuck you!
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-Okay, okay...
-Fuck you!
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-No, no, no.
-Turn it off. Turn it off!
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Tony, just wait a second, now.
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What dream?
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You mentioned a dream.
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What is this dream?
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Oh, I don't think so, Fred.
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You don't think so what?
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Well, you know, you start
telling people your dreams,
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and they shit all over you.
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They call you crazy.
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I'm not crazy!
I'm not fuckin' crazy!
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I've been an angry man
for 44 fuckin' years.
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I'm the strongest man
mentally I've ever known,
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but they betrayed me.
They set me up.
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They schemed
to ruin a human life.
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Well, I want to hear
about the dream, Tony.
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Was it about the...
was it about the land?
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I own 17 pristine acres
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in the most profitable,
most beautiful area
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a man could imagine...
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ideal for a state-of-the-art
shopping destination.
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Let me ask you something, Fred,
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and don't lie to me.
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Do you like steak?
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Well, I certainly enjoy
a nice ribeye now and again.
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'Course you do!
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What honest American man doesn't?
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Is that
what you wanted to do?
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You want to build
a restaurant on your land?
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No, not just a restaurant.
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An experience!
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You know
what an experience is, Fred?
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It's something that changes you,
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even if it's just a whisper.
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An experience?
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That certainly
sounds like something.
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Picture this, picture this.
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Classic American steakhouse,
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red booths, martinis,
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all the sides that people like,
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and the, you know,
the baked potatoes
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and the iceberg lettuce
with the blue cheese dressing,
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and don't forget about
the pièce de résistance,
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the steak! You see what I mean?
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Yeah, yeah, I certainly do.
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I got a guy lined up,
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he could get you the best steak
you've ever had in your life,
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top of the line,
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but it wouldn't just be
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for the hoi polloi,
but for regular folk too,
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you know, still have
all the ambiance
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and the waiters and the bow-ties
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and the silver trays.
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Tony, I can understand
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why that's very important to you,
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and I want to say I...
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I appreciate
you sharing that with us.
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Well, you know,
it wasn't just a dream, Fred.
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It was... it was my last chanc.
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It was my last chance
to make something of my life,
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and these guys wanted
to steal it from me.
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They wanted to-to beat me,
to destroy me as a man.
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Well, I didn't take Dick here
to be a buffoon.
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I took him for vengeance!
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Well, how is Dick doing?
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Dick's fine, man!
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He's had a silver spoon
up his ass his entire life,
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so much so where he probably
shits dimes, don't you, Dick?
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Dick just said yes.
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I wonder if I could
speak to Dick directly.
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I want to find out from him
what his condition is.
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His condition?
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He's a fuckin' thief.
He got it from his father.
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Okay, Tony.
Can I speak to Dick?
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Well, listen...
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-Was that on the radio?
-I don't know. I don't know.
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-No, it's coming through.
-Where'd it come from?
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It sounds like some...
someone's knocking at the door?
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Who's knockin'?
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Who's there?
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Wait. Hang on, Fred.
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Who's knockin'?
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It's the Bomb Squad.
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Tony, can you confirm
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that there's explosives
in the domicile?
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You're goddamn right I do, pal!
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I got nitroglycerine rigged up
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to blow the whole place
to smithereens!
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Roger that.
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Are you gettin' all this, Fred?
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Yes, Tony.
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It sounds to me
like you're suggesting
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that you have your apartment
wired to explode?
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You ain't just
whistlin' Dixie, pal,
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and I know
what I'm talking about.
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I was a munitions expert
in Korea,
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and I trained cadets
at West Point,
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and that's a fuckin' fact.
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Okay, uh, Tony...
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Listen. I don't like
the way these guys operate.
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They got snipers across the way,
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they got people
banging on my door
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just begging me
to pull this trigger.
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You know, they're lucky
I got a steady hand.
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Now listen, Fred.
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I'm gonna need two things,
and these are non-negotiable.
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The first thing is
I want an apology
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from M.L. Hall himself,
no flunkies, all right?
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And then I'm gonna want
full immunity,
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'cause none of this was my fault.
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Okay, I understand
that these are your demands.
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That will definitely help.
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That's right, demands.
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I'm also gonna need
a couple of lawyers.
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You know how it is, fine print.
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Are you writing this down?
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I am.
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Look, there's two of 'e.
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One's a muckety-muck
and one's a good egg.
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It's John Ruckelshaus,
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Johnny Rucks, and, uh...
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naw, shit...
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Uh, Charles Wilson.
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Charles Wilson.
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John Ruckelshaus
and Charles Wilson.
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Johnny Rucks. Yeah.
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That's right. That's right.
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Okay, Tony. Can I...
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can I speak to Dick Hall, please?
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Listen, work on
those things first.
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Look into Eisner-Osco,
look into my claims,
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so your listeners know
that I'm telling the truth.
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We will look into
all of that, Tony,
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and, uh, let me just say,
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I really appreciate you
taking the time with us today.
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Fred Heckman
thanking me for my time...
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that's somethin' else.
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Over and out, baby.
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Hoo!
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This is Fred Heckman, WIBC News.
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That was a live interview
with Tony Kiritsis,
264
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the hostage-taker.
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We'll be right back
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after these words
from our sponsors.
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A dark horse
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which nobody had ever heard of
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swept past the grandstand
in triumph!
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You old son of a gun.
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What do we know
about Meridian and Tony?
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Uh, standard
mortgage foreclosure.
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00:11:02,746 --> 00:11:04,327
Let's drill a little bit
deeper down on that,
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because something
doesn't pass the smell test.
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Oh! There was that protest
out in front of Meridian
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like two weeks ago.
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I guess there was...
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out of 430 mortgages,
they foreclosed on 410.
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We should track that down
before anybody else.
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All right?
Get down to Crestwood.
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Get with Paul, get some real
boots-on-the-ground reporting.
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See what you can do, okay?
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Let's get all hands on deck here.
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We need to plant a flag, eh?
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-Great interview, Fred.
-Yeah.
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Steakhouse!
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Chief!
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-Fred.
-Hey, Chief.
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Called the D.A.'s office.
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Told them that Kelly
needs to get his ass down here
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to advise on immunity.
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"Advise." Jesus Christ.
What will Tony think of next?
294
00:11:37,072 --> 00:11:38,486
Well, Tony would like
his lawyers.
295
00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:40,279
Yeah, they're
being notified as we speak.
296
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Ginny, Tony said
he went to West Point.
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See if you can find out
when he was there.
298
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See if there's any former
instructors or classmates.
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Give us a general
character sketch.
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Copy, please?
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00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,079
Here, you have two minutes.
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00:11:48,083 --> 00:11:49,622
Thank you.
303
00:11:49,626 --> 00:11:51,624
Fred? Uh, we're on the line
for thousands in fines
304
00:11:51,628 --> 00:11:53,292
because of
that one interview alone.
305
00:11:53,296 --> 00:11:55,378
I knew I should've fuckin'
insisted on that dump button!
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00:11:55,382 --> 00:11:56,546
Jerry! Okay.
307
00:11:56,550 --> 00:11:58,005
Whatever you find out
about West Point,
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00:11:58,009 --> 00:11:59,132
take it to Ben over at Crestwood,
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and then get back here,
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'cause I need you
to start tracking down leads
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00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:03,302
-on this Eisner-Osco, okay?
-Okay.
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And I need you
to apologize to the listeners,
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and two, I need you to tell
Mr. Fairbanks this was you,
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because I had
nothing to do with this.
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00:12:08,895 --> 00:12:10,351
Okay, Jerry, I will tell him
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that it was all my decision
as news director.
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Thank you.
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Everyone needs to evacuate.
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00:12:17,529 --> 00:12:19,694
Please, stay calm.
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Make your way over there.
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Everyone,
stay behind the cordon here.
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Get back.
Okay, watch your step, please.
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00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,454
O'Brien?
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00:12:29,458 --> 00:12:30,580
Hey.
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00:12:30,584 --> 00:12:31,956
Hey.
Hear Fred's interview?
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00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,125
Everyone's listening to IBC,
even other reporters.
327
00:12:34,129 --> 00:12:36,335
Plus, see that woman
over there in the blue coat?
328
00:12:36,339 --> 00:12:37,253
-Mm-hmm?
-Yeah, that's Pearl.
329
00:12:37,257 --> 00:12:38,463
Big Fred Heckman fan.
330
00:12:38,467 --> 00:12:39,839
She lives
in the buildings over there.
331
00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:41,549
Says that we can use
her phone and bathroom.
332
00:12:41,553 --> 00:12:43,634
Yeah, just don't let the rest
of these jackals know, right?
333
00:12:43,638 --> 00:12:45,344
Uh, you go left, I go right?
334
00:12:45,348 --> 00:12:46,850
-Sounds good.
-Yes, sir.
335
00:12:48,226 --> 00:12:49,474
Well, then I would like to speak
336
00:12:49,478 --> 00:12:51,017
to a representative
from Eisner-Osco
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00:12:51,021 --> 00:12:53,019
who can comment
on the record, please.
338
00:12:53,023 --> 00:12:54,812
Yes, thank you.
Please do call me back.
339
00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:56,731
Eisner-Osco's giving me
the runaround.
340
00:12:56,735 --> 00:12:58,608
I frankly
do not give a shit, Fred.
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00:12:58,612 --> 00:13:00,401
-Pam, tell him.
-Mattress Daddy pulled out.
342
00:13:00,405 --> 00:13:02,612
Fuckin' Mattress Daddy!
Our biggest sponsor.
343
00:13:02,616 --> 00:13:04,739
Why, Pam?
Let me remind you of something.
344
00:13:04,743 --> 00:13:06,407
When I first got to this station,
345
00:13:06,411 --> 00:13:08,034
they were selling
baby chicks by mail
346
00:13:08,038 --> 00:13:09,118
and chewing tobacco.
347
00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:10,578
It was a garbage can on the air.
348
00:13:10,582 --> 00:13:11,746
Pulled it out of the gutter
349
00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:12,955
to bring to number one
in the market.
350
00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,373
I wiped the filth off
and turned it
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00:13:14,377 --> 00:13:16,250
into the number-one
radio station in Indianapolis.
352
00:13:16,254 --> 00:13:17,418
Brought in
his L.A. contacts.
353
00:13:17,422 --> 00:13:18,586
It was my L.A. contacts
that landed us
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00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:20,004
McMahon, Martinis, and Madness.
355
00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:20,922
You think anyone can do that?
356
00:13:20,926 --> 00:13:22,173
Get Ed fuckin' McMahon
357
00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:23,382
to take two yokels
out on the town?
358
00:13:23,386 --> 00:13:24,926
And meet Johnny Carson.
359
00:13:24,930 --> 00:13:25,927
You think
they're meeting Johnny Carson
360
00:13:25,931 --> 00:13:27,136
over at WKRX?
361
00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:28,513
I'm the brains behind the promos!
362
00:13:28,517 --> 00:13:31,390
I lured DJ Ricksy and The Pig
over from Cleveland.
363
00:13:31,394 --> 00:13:33,754
You know who else is doing that?
Fuckin' no one, that's who!
364
00:13:35,524 --> 00:13:36,812
Anything else?
365
00:13:39,611 --> 00:13:42,485
If that fucking menace
Kiritsis calls again,
366
00:13:42,489 --> 00:13:44,904
for the love of God
and all that is holy,
367
00:13:44,908 --> 00:13:46,447
please don't put him on the air.
368
00:13:46,451 --> 00:13:48,741
Yes, hi. This is Fred Heckman
from WIBC News.
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00:13:48,745 --> 00:13:50,952
I was given Mr. Silver's name
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00:13:50,956 --> 00:13:53,704
as a point of contact
for a potential property.
371
00:13:53,708 --> 00:13:55,998
Yes, I will hold.
Thank you.
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00:13:56,002 --> 00:13:57,250
Jerry, I don't know
what to tell you.
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00:13:57,254 --> 00:13:58,543
I-I report the news.
374
00:13:58,547 --> 00:13:59,502
You deal with the advertisers.
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00:13:59,506 --> 00:14:00,795
Fred, how many advertisers
376
00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:02,672
do you think
we're gonna have left?
377
00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:04,131
You know who they fire
first when the sponsors leave?
378
00:14:04,135 --> 00:14:05,258
I'll give you a hint.
It's not the talent.
379
00:14:05,262 --> 00:14:08,427
It's me, the station manager.
380
00:14:08,431 --> 00:14:09,971
Pam?
381
00:14:09,975 --> 00:14:11,055
Yes, thank you.
Is this Mr. Silver?
382
00:14:11,059 --> 00:14:12,223
I need to speak
to an adult!
383
00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:30,700
It's a chaotic scene
outside here at Crestwood,
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00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:32,201
as hundreds of residents
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00:14:32,205 --> 00:14:33,703
are being evacuated
from the building.
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00:14:33,707 --> 00:14:35,371
The City has no shelter in place
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00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:37,164
for the residents,
most of them elderly,
388
00:14:37,168 --> 00:14:40,209
but according to a Mrs. Taper,
a neighbor of Mr. Kiritsis,
389
00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:41,752
"There are
no hard feelings."
390
00:14:41,756 --> 00:14:42,837
Hey, I...
391
00:14:44,593 --> 00:14:46,674
Well, Tony fixed my vacuum,
392
00:14:46,678 --> 00:14:48,134
and he's always the first person
393
00:14:48,138 --> 00:14:50,469
to get that maintenance man
to fix my heater.
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00:14:50,473 --> 00:14:51,637
He's a nice man.
395
00:14:53,518 --> 00:14:54,807
For many residents
out in the cold,
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00:14:54,811 --> 00:14:56,309
they'll have to rely
on family and friends
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00:14:56,313 --> 00:14:57,727
to take them in,
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00:14:57,731 --> 00:15:00,354
For how long, No one can say.
399
00:15:00,358 --> 00:15:02,064
This is Ben Hairston, WIBC.
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00:15:02,068 --> 00:15:03,774
♪ WIBC ♪
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00:15:03,778 --> 00:15:05,488
♪ Indianapolis ♪
402
00:15:06,781 --> 00:15:08,446
Okay.
403
00:15:08,450 --> 00:15:09,989
Um...
404
00:15:09,993 --> 00:15:11,907
okay, so, there's no record
405
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,534
of Tony having ever been
at West Point,
406
00:15:13,538 --> 00:15:15,498
either as a cadet
or an instructor.
407
00:15:21,463 --> 00:15:22,918
You wanna stick around
for a while?
408
00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:25,796
I promise I won't tell Fred.
409
00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,964
Well, maybe just
a couple minutes?
410
00:15:26,968 --> 00:15:28,299
Okay.
411
00:15:28,303 --> 00:15:30,509
It's a very brutal situation...
412
00:15:30,513 --> 00:15:32,678
So far everyone
in the community...
413
00:15:32,682 --> 00:15:33,596
I mean, we are trying
to find more information...
414
00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,889
...Alice, Channel 8.
415
00:15:40,607 --> 00:15:41,937
When you say,
"They have a reputation,"
416
00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:44,190
what does that mean?
417
00:15:44,194 --> 00:15:45,941
No, Mr. Ando,
all I'm asking is,
418
00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:47,693
what does it mean when you say
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00:15:47,697 --> 00:15:49,028
that Meridian Mortgage
has a reputation?
420
00:15:49,032 --> 00:15:50,696
A reputation for what?
421
00:15:52,577 --> 00:15:53,824
Okay.
422
00:15:53,828 --> 00:15:54,825
Yeah?
423
00:15:54,829 --> 00:15:56,077
Lawyers are here.
424
00:15:56,081 --> 00:15:57,662
Gallagher is so mad,
he could spit.
425
00:15:57,666 --> 00:15:59,372
D.A. Kelly didn't show.
He sent subordinates.
426
00:15:59,376 --> 00:16:00,998
This would be
a whole lot easier
427
00:16:01,002 --> 00:16:03,668
if the D.A. wasn't trying
a police corruption case.
428
00:16:03,672 --> 00:16:05,503
Pfft, if I were Kelly,
I wouldn't even run a stop sign.
429
00:16:05,507 --> 00:16:06,921
Every cop in this city hates him.
430
00:16:06,925 --> 00:16:08,255
That sounds about right.
431
00:16:08,259 --> 00:16:09,924
My uncle says the only reason
432
00:16:09,928 --> 00:16:11,133
that Kelly's going after the cops
433
00:16:11,137 --> 00:16:12,593
is 'cause they know
all his dirty laundry.
434
00:16:12,597 --> 00:16:14,679
-Welcome to Indianapolis.
-Mm-hmm.
435
00:16:14,683 --> 00:16:16,055
You're as useless
as tits on a bull.
436
00:16:16,059 --> 00:16:17,431
I mean, this isn't
just a case we're handling.
437
00:16:17,435 --> 00:16:19,600
This is an active situation.
438
00:16:21,064 --> 00:16:23,229
Gentlemen, gentlemen!
Nice to see we're all assembled.
439
00:16:23,233 --> 00:16:26,565
Fred, maybe you can
explain the situation
440
00:16:26,569 --> 00:16:28,025
to Lucy and Ethel here.
441
00:16:28,029 --> 00:16:29,944
D.A. Kelly can't be bothered
to show his face!
442
00:16:29,948 --> 00:16:31,570
I spoke with Mr. Kiritsis.
443
00:16:31,574 --> 00:16:32,530
He has two requests.
444
00:16:32,534 --> 00:16:34,573
Demands.
445
00:16:34,577 --> 00:16:36,200
Number one,
he wants total immunity.
446
00:16:36,204 --> 00:16:37,535
There's no precedent for that.
447
00:16:37,539 --> 00:16:38,494
I'm aware
there's no precedent for it.
448
00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:39,912
It's just what he has asked for,
449
00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:41,956
along with an apology
from Meridian Mortgage,
450
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,958
specifically from
Mr. M.L. Hall.
451
00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:45,126
Where's your boss?
452
00:16:45,130 --> 00:16:46,836
He's apprised
of what's happening.
453
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,129
Ooh, is he?
Or are you two covering for him
454
00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:49,839
because you don't know
where the fuck he is?
455
00:16:49,843 --> 00:16:51,841
We know exactly where he is.
456
00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:53,634
Okay, we are just
waiting on Tony's lawyer.
457
00:16:53,638 --> 00:16:55,302
-Gene!
-Ruck!
458
00:16:55,306 --> 00:16:56,846
Glad you could
make it so quickly.
459
00:16:56,850 --> 00:16:58,347
Always glad to be of service.
460
00:16:58,351 --> 00:17:00,558
I'm not sure why
Mr. Kiritsis requested us.
461
00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:02,727
I helped him
462
00:17:02,731 --> 00:17:03,894
with some zoning issues
a couple years ago, but, uh,
463
00:17:03,898 --> 00:17:05,229
I'm just not sure
464
00:17:05,233 --> 00:17:06,439
I'm the appropriate
attorney to...
465
00:17:06,443 --> 00:17:08,149
I'm with Mr. Wilson here.
466
00:17:08,153 --> 00:17:09,608
Uh, my busy trial
schedule is such...
467
00:17:09,612 --> 00:17:11,318
Defending crooked cops?
468
00:17:11,322 --> 00:17:13,404
Lieutenant Reed Moistner
is a decorated police officer
469
00:17:13,408 --> 00:17:15,030
-who has been...
-Who has been
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00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:16,991
bribing private citizens
for protection.
471
00:17:16,995 --> 00:17:19,952
I look forward
to swatting down all the charges
472
00:17:19,956 --> 00:17:20,995
in this Mickey Mouse game
you're playing.
473
00:17:20,999 --> 00:17:22,455
We have a goddamn witness.
474
00:17:22,459 --> 00:17:23,706
Where's your District Attorney?
475
00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:25,583
Because funny things
seem to happen
476
00:17:25,587 --> 00:17:27,001
every time
he disappears to California.
477
00:17:27,005 --> 00:17:28,377
What are you implying?
478
00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:30,963
That your boss
is allegedly embroiled
479
00:17:30,967 --> 00:17:32,631
with some pretty
unsavory characters,
480
00:17:32,635 --> 00:17:34,759
drugs... murder.
481
00:17:34,763 --> 00:17:35,968
Am I forgetting anything?
482
00:17:35,972 --> 00:17:37,762
He was only at that party
to investigate.
483
00:17:37,766 --> 00:17:39,221
Of course he was.
Allegedly.
484
00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:41,015
I will say this
for the District Attorney,
485
00:17:41,019 --> 00:17:42,433
he certainly keeps busy.
486
00:17:42,437 --> 00:17:43,601
-You know this is bullshit.
-David...
487
00:17:44,606 --> 00:17:46,395
Step back.
488
00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:47,521
Back up.
489
00:17:47,525 --> 00:17:50,274
Hey! Hey! Gentlemen! Please.
490
00:17:50,278 --> 00:17:52,276
Can we return
to the matter at hand?
491
00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,195
Mr. Kiritsis
has requested two attorneys,
492
00:17:54,199 --> 00:17:55,696
one for the apology,
493
00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:57,156
and the other for the immunity,
494
00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,324
so let's put one
in charge of civil,
495
00:17:58,328 --> 00:17:59,325
and one in charge of criminal.
496
00:17:59,329 --> 00:18:00,868
Criminal.
497
00:18:00,872 --> 00:18:02,953
Civil. Good? Good.
498
00:18:02,957 --> 00:18:04,038
Now, I suggest
somebody get on the phone
499
00:18:04,042 --> 00:18:05,206
to Meridian Mortgage
500
00:18:05,210 --> 00:18:06,832
and start working
on that apology.
501
00:18:06,836 --> 00:18:08,209
I need to be elsewhere.
502
00:18:08,213 --> 00:18:09,813
Hey, you're criminal.
He said it, not me.
503
00:18:18,556 --> 00:18:21,138
So, this is pretty crazy, huh?
504
00:18:21,142 --> 00:18:23,057
Yep.
505
00:18:23,061 --> 00:18:24,391
Tony, uh...
506
00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:25,851
he seems to have
a lot of goodwill
507
00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:27,603
from some of the officers,
even though he's, um...
508
00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:30,147
well, he's-he's had
some troubles.
509
00:18:30,151 --> 00:18:32,399
You know the Kiritsis family?
510
00:18:32,403 --> 00:18:35,027
No, just what
I've heard on the radio.
511
00:18:35,031 --> 00:18:36,366
Well, he's a good guy.
512
00:18:38,201 --> 00:18:40,407
I have a... cousin.
513
00:18:40,411 --> 00:18:42,535
Similar situation.
514
00:18:42,539 --> 00:18:44,829
Nicest guy, he just...
515
00:18:44,833 --> 00:18:47,039
gets a little wiggly
now and then, you know?
516
00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:51,126
Has to howl at the moon.
But we love him to bits.
517
00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:52,711
That sounds like Tony's family.
518
00:18:52,715 --> 00:18:55,798
Except his two brothers.
He fuckin' hates 'em.
519
00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:57,258
But his brother, Jimmie,
and his sister...
520
00:18:57,262 --> 00:18:59,009
He has a sister?
521
00:18:59,013 --> 00:19:00,553
She must be worried sick
about him.
522
00:19:00,557 --> 00:19:02,016
Mm. Imagine so.
523
00:19:03,893 --> 00:19:06,350
They had a falling-out
over some money years ago.
524
00:19:06,354 --> 00:19:07,647
That's a shame.
525
00:19:09,023 --> 00:19:10,563
It is.
526
00:19:10,567 --> 00:19:11,438
You know, they haven't spoken
since it happened.
527
00:19:11,442 --> 00:19:13,858
Since... what happened?
528
00:19:13,862 --> 00:19:14,988
Well...
529
00:19:19,075 --> 00:19:21,240
What'd you say your name was?
530
00:19:21,244 --> 00:19:23,492
Uh, oh, I'm Ginny.
531
00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:24,994
Who are you with, again?
532
00:19:24,998 --> 00:19:26,537
No one.
533
00:19:26,541 --> 00:19:27,913
So, uh...
534
00:19:27,917 --> 00:19:29,127
what happened between them?
535
00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:32,463
It's nice talking
with you, Ginny.
536
00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:36,255
Well, I'll, uh...
537
00:19:36,259 --> 00:19:37,756
I'll keep you in my prayers,
Officer.
538
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,842
In an interview
with WIBC's own Fred Heckman,
539
00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:41,719
Kiritsis asserted
his expertise in the area,
540
00:19:41,723 --> 00:19:43,178
citing his time
541
00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:45,598
as a munitions instructor
at West Point.
542
00:19:45,602 --> 00:19:47,641
WIBC contacted West Point,
543
00:19:47,645 --> 00:19:49,351
who would not confirm that
Kiritsis was an instructor.
544
00:19:49,355 --> 00:19:51,478
"Not confirm"?
545
00:19:51,482 --> 00:19:53,355
What do you mean, "not confirm"?
546
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,608
I was a small-arms instructor
at West Point
547
00:19:55,612 --> 00:19:57,276
for five fuckin' years!
548
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,111
I served as a corporal
in the Korean War.
549
00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:01,780
The Bomb Squad is
taking Kiritsis at his word.
550
00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:04,116
This is Ben Hairston, WIBC.
551
00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:07,411
I think I got something.
552
00:20:07,415 --> 00:20:08,791
"Not confirm"?
553
00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:11,999
You weren't drafted like me.
554
00:20:12,003 --> 00:20:14,168
Your daddy paid
for your college deferment,
555
00:20:14,172 --> 00:20:16,378
then you joined
some fraternity and wore togas
556
00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:18,547
and siss-boom-bah,
you fucking sissy.
557
00:20:18,551 --> 00:20:21,884
Not me! I've been working
every day of my goddamn life.
558
00:20:21,888 --> 00:20:22,968
I know what you're gonna say.
559
00:20:22,972 --> 00:20:24,219
What, you served in the Navy?
560
00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:26,055
As an officer, during peace time?
561
00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:28,265
Not as a grunt in the Korean War.
562
00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:29,725
What, where were you stationed,
San Diego?
563
00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:31,477
Worst thing to happen to you
during your tour
564
00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:32,603
was a goddamn sunburn!
565
00:20:32,607 --> 00:20:33,854
"Not confirm."
566
00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:36,398
What is it?
567
00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:37,441
Is this Tony Kiritsis?
568
00:20:37,445 --> 00:20:39,526
Speaking!
569
00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:43,572
Yeah. You know what you should
do to that rich prick?
570
00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:45,282
Blow his head off.
571
00:20:45,286 --> 00:20:46,408
Come on.
Blow his fucking head off!
572
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,869
You're a lot sicker
than I am, pal.
573
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,082
Can you believe these people?
He's telling me to shoot you.
574
00:20:53,086 --> 00:20:56,043
What the fuck's
the matter with people?
575
00:20:56,047 --> 00:20:57,215
Goddammit.
576
00:20:59,676 --> 00:21:01,048
Will you please tell him
577
00:21:01,052 --> 00:21:03,217
I called about Meridian Mortgage?
578
00:21:03,221 --> 00:21:04,969
Yeah?
579
00:21:04,973 --> 00:21:06,345
They need you
in the conference room.
580
00:21:06,349 --> 00:21:07,892
Bill Hall's on the line.
581
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:11,934
Mr. Hall?
We're all here, uh,
582
00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:13,644
ready to help you
with the apology
583
00:21:13,648 --> 00:21:15,896
that Tony has demanded
from Meridian Mortgage.
584
00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:19,191
Well, I-I appreciate
your position, but...
585
00:21:19,195 --> 00:21:22,111
I, uh, I need you
to appreciate mine.
586
00:21:22,115 --> 00:21:23,821
Your brother's got
587
00:21:23,825 --> 00:21:26,490
a shotgun wired
to the back of his skull, Bill.
588
00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:29,410
How hard can it be
to muster up an apology?
589
00:21:29,414 --> 00:21:32,538
Well, see, the, uh...
the demand
590
00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:34,748
is that Dad give...
591
00:21:34,752 --> 00:21:36,041
the apology, right?
592
00:21:37,171 --> 00:21:38,451
That's right, Bill.
593
00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:42,506
Is your father there?
594
00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:44,508
Can we, uh... speak to him?
595
00:21:44,512 --> 00:21:46,222
Well, gee, uh...
596
00:21:48,182 --> 00:21:50,806
Dad's, uh...
597
00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:52,808
sort of indisposed right now.
598
00:21:52,812 --> 00:21:54,852
Well, gee, Bill,
599
00:21:54,856 --> 00:21:56,520
maybe you could get him
on the fucking phone.
600
00:21:56,524 --> 00:21:57,730
He's not here.
601
00:21:57,734 --> 00:21:59,064
In the office?
602
00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:00,153
In the state.
603
00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:05,070
Well, uh... where is he?
604
00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:06,572
I believe he's in Florida.
605
00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:10,200
Well, can you...
can you help us out here?
606
00:22:10,204 --> 00:22:11,827
Bill?
607
00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:13,704
Can we get in touch with him?
608
00:22:13,708 --> 00:22:16,081
Gosh, Fred,
that's just it. Uh...
609
00:22:16,085 --> 00:22:17,916
We can't find him.
610
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,547
Can't find who, Bill?
611
00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:24,465
We can't seem to locate M.L.
612
00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:27,468
You can't seem to locate
your own father,
613
00:22:27,472 --> 00:22:29,136
other than knowing
614
00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:30,804
that he's in
the state of fuckin' Florida?
615
00:22:30,808 --> 00:22:32,514
Yeah, if pressed,
616
00:22:32,518 --> 00:22:34,308
I'd say in
the Fort Lauderdale area.
617
00:22:34,312 --> 00:22:37,186
-"If pressed"?! If...
-Uh, look.
618
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:39,104
Can you help us find him, Bill?
619
00:22:39,108 --> 00:22:41,065
We really need M.L.
to sign off on this
620
00:22:41,069 --> 00:22:42,195
to help your brother.
621
00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,153
I'm gonna see what I can do.
622
00:22:52,538 --> 00:22:54,203
What's the matter
with these people?
623
00:22:54,207 --> 00:22:55,370
I mean, at this rate,
624
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,122
we're gonna be here until Easter,
625
00:22:57,126 --> 00:22:59,458
and someone'll be dead!
626
00:22:59,462 --> 00:23:01,627
And I-I don't mean Jesus!
627
00:23:01,631 --> 00:23:02,673
Excuse me.
628
00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:08,258
Hey, where are you at
on the ground right now?
629
00:23:08,262 --> 00:23:09,301
What happened at the meeting?
630
00:23:09,305 --> 00:23:10,552
It was a total fiasco.
631
00:23:10,556 --> 00:23:11,845
I'll fill you in later.
632
00:23:11,849 --> 00:23:13,138
Uh, where are you at
with these interviews?
633
00:23:13,142 --> 00:23:14,223
Uh, well, Tony's got
634
00:23:14,227 --> 00:23:15,641
a lot of friends
in law enforcement,
635
00:23:15,645 --> 00:23:17,142
believe it or not.
636
00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:18,811
Paul was talking
to a Sheriff's Deputy
637
00:23:18,815 --> 00:23:20,270
who had breakfast with Tony
just last week.
638
00:23:20,274 --> 00:23:21,647
What about the residents?
639
00:23:21,651 --> 00:23:23,732
Uh, mostly pensioners,
can barely afford rent,
640
00:23:23,736 --> 00:23:25,400
-charged per phone call.
-No, no.
641
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:27,653
Uh, correction,
642
00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:29,530
30 free calls per month,
643
00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:31,406
and then they're charged
beyond that.
644
00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:33,367
Long distance is extra,
of course.
645
00:23:33,371 --> 00:23:35,786
Uh, hey, uh, Ginny was supposed
to be here a half hour ago.
646
00:23:35,790 --> 00:23:36,745
You seen her anywhere?
647
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,205
Uh, I'm here.
648
00:23:38,209 --> 00:23:39,706
Oh, that's funny, because
you're supposed to be here.
649
00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:43,627
Sorry. I...
might have something, a story.
650
00:23:43,631 --> 00:23:44,590
Tell me.
651
00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:47,464
Tony's sister.
652
00:23:47,468 --> 00:23:49,174
One of the cops let slip
653
00:23:49,178 --> 00:23:50,384
that there was a dispute
over money between them
654
00:23:50,388 --> 00:23:51,593
a while back.
655
00:23:51,597 --> 00:23:54,471
Uh, she's at a nearby
mobile-home park.
656
00:23:54,475 --> 00:23:56,515
All right, follow the lead,
but don't fuck around.
657
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,684
You got him cussing at you.
Ginny, welcome to the club.
658
00:23:58,688 --> 00:24:00,936
Lot of tentacles
to this story.
659
00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:03,522
It's more than
just a hostage situation.
660
00:24:03,526 --> 00:24:05,149
There's something here.
661
00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:06,984
You're sounding
like the guy who hired me!
662
00:24:06,988 --> 00:24:08,485
I have to admit,
it's been a while.
663
00:24:08,489 --> 00:24:10,112
It's a hell of a thing.
664
00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:12,285
Yeah, all right.
Keep me posted.
665
00:24:13,828 --> 00:24:15,826
I haven't heard him like that.
666
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:17,327
Yeah, Fred's been at this
a long time.
667
00:24:17,331 --> 00:24:19,079
I forget that
he was a reporter-reporter.
668
00:24:19,083 --> 00:24:20,581
Yeah, you never think
you'd get a story like this
669
00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:22,291
-in Indianapolis.
-Mm-mm.
670
00:24:22,295 --> 00:24:23,417
Oh! Uh, you gotta get going.
671
00:24:23,421 --> 00:24:24,585
Uh, there's an extra
672
00:24:24,589 --> 00:24:25,878
tape recorder and mic in the van.
673
00:24:25,882 --> 00:24:26,837
Okay, well, I'll see you.
674
00:24:26,841 --> 00:24:28,050
Okay.
675
00:24:47,737 --> 00:24:49,568
Hmm.
676
00:24:49,572 --> 00:24:50,819
Tell him what you just told me.
677
00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:53,322
Uh, when I was there,
at Meridian,
678
00:24:53,326 --> 00:24:55,199
when they gave
Mr. Kiritsis his mortgage,
679
00:24:55,203 --> 00:24:56,950
I didn't really understand
why it went through,
680
00:24:56,954 --> 00:24:59,161
because he didn't
have any income,
681
00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:00,537
and I thought that was strange.
682
00:25:00,541 --> 00:25:02,706
But I-I don't blame Mr. Hall,
because he's kind,
683
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:04,374
no matter what people
say about him.
684
00:25:04,378 --> 00:25:06,168
No matter what anyone says
about M.L. Hall?
685
00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:07,377
No. Dick.
686
00:25:07,381 --> 00:25:09,129
Nobody likes M.L.
687
00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:10,589
Huh! Okay. Well, I'm gonna
688
00:25:10,593 --> 00:25:12,299
want to probably talk to you
further about that.
689
00:25:12,303 --> 00:25:13,342
-Thank you, Helen.
-Oh, you're welcome.
690
00:25:13,346 --> 00:25:14,593
You better get back
to the phones.
691
00:25:14,597 --> 00:25:16,470
They're ringing off the hook.
692
00:25:16,474 --> 00:25:17,804
People keep calling in!
693
00:25:17,808 --> 00:25:19,556
They want us to re-air
your interview with Tony.
694
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,599
What?
695
00:25:20,603 --> 00:25:21,600
In its entirety.
696
00:25:21,604 --> 00:25:23,268
No fucking way!
697
00:25:23,272 --> 00:25:25,103
I am just telling you
what the listeners are saying.
698
00:25:25,107 --> 00:25:26,271
Some people
are mad they missed it,
699
00:25:26,275 --> 00:25:27,397
and they want us to run it again.
700
00:25:27,401 --> 00:25:29,191
Well, how many calls
are we talking?
701
00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:31,526
I don't have an exact number,
Jerry, but at least a hundred.
702
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,028
A hundred?
703
00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:34,404
WIBC. Judy speaking.
704
00:25:34,408 --> 00:25:36,698
Okay. I'll look into it.
705
00:25:36,702 --> 00:25:37,741
I'll need to talk
to Mr. Fairbanks.
706
00:25:37,745 --> 00:25:39,326
Not Mattress Daddy?
707
00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:40,285
Fuck you, Fred.
708
00:25:40,289 --> 00:25:42,371
Call on line one.
709
00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:43,538
I have a call, Jerry,
on line one.
710
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:44,414
Thank you, Judy.
711
00:25:44,418 --> 00:25:46,212
Go get this call.
712
00:25:50,383 --> 00:25:51,463
Hello?
713
00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:53,757
Fred? Ralph Bass here.
714
00:25:53,761 --> 00:25:55,968
In our last conversation,
you mentioned your kids,
715
00:25:55,972 --> 00:25:57,636
and it occurred to me
716
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,971
that my wife
just so happens to know
717
00:25:58,975 --> 00:26:00,430
every good school
in the Tri-State area,
718
00:26:00,434 --> 00:26:01,932
and, believe me,
719
00:26:01,936 --> 00:26:03,517
she'd be happy
to talk to your wife,
720
00:26:03,521 --> 00:26:04,685
give her the lay of the land.
721
00:26:04,689 --> 00:26:06,103
Well, that is a very nice offer,
722
00:26:06,107 --> 00:26:08,814
and I do appreciate
your enthusiasm for me.
723
00:26:08,818 --> 00:26:11,316
And for My Town Indy.
724
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,236
I mean, "My Town New York"
has a ring to it!
725
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,113
It sure does,
726
00:26:16,117 --> 00:26:18,282
but we're kind of in the middle
of a breaking news story here.
727
00:26:18,286 --> 00:26:20,492
We've got a hostage situation
in Indianapolis.
728
00:26:20,496 --> 00:26:22,828
A gunman has kidnapped
his mortgage broker.
729
00:26:22,832 --> 00:26:25,163
Never a dull moment,
not even in Indiana.
730
00:26:25,167 --> 00:26:26,999
No, no.
731
00:26:27,003 --> 00:26:29,084
No, in fact, I was able
to interview the gunman
732
00:26:29,088 --> 00:26:30,836
live on the air.
733
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,212
You put him on the air?
734
00:26:32,216 --> 00:26:33,755
I did. It was one of
the hardest decisions
735
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:35,132
I've ever had to make,
736
00:26:35,136 --> 00:26:37,009
but it turned out to be
the interview of my life.
737
00:26:37,013 --> 00:26:39,303
There any national outfits there?
738
00:26:39,307 --> 00:26:41,430
No, but I bet there will be
by day's end.
739
00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:43,307
And do you have an exclusive?
740
00:26:43,311 --> 00:26:44,641
I do.
741
00:26:44,645 --> 00:26:46,188
In fact, he'll only talk to me.
742
00:26:48,482 --> 00:26:51,523
See, Ralph, this is
what I still want to do.
743
00:26:51,527 --> 00:26:53,358
This is what I meant
when I said I'm more
744
00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:55,573
than just My Town Indy
or My Town New York.
745
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:00,282
I'm a reporter, Ralph.
746
00:27:00,286 --> 00:27:01,700
You want to do hard news.
747
00:27:01,704 --> 00:27:03,869
I do.
748
00:27:03,873 --> 00:27:05,746
This could be a story
749
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:08,290
about a madman taking
his mortgage broker hostage,
750
00:27:08,294 --> 00:27:10,876
or an indictment
on the American Dream, or both.
751
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,086
Sounds like CBS.
752
00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:14,755
How would you feel about
753
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:16,719
broadcasting this story nationally?
754
00:27:19,055 --> 00:27:21,136
You're right.
It is challenging.
755
00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:22,971
You know, we want
to do good journalism.
756
00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,222
I mean, that's
our number-one thing.
757
00:27:24,226 --> 00:27:25,265
Of course. Yeah.
758
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:26,600
Hi, honey. How are you?
759
00:27:26,604 --> 00:27:28,643
Hi. Uh, Jerry was just
telling me about the FCC.
760
00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:29,728
Oh, yeah.
761
00:27:29,732 --> 00:27:31,313
Um, I brought you
762
00:27:31,317 --> 00:27:32,647
clean shirts and your Dopp kit
763
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:33,648
in case you don't
make it home tonight.
764
00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,776
It's $300 per fu..., uh...
765
00:27:35,780 --> 00:27:37,486
There's still no word
from Mr. Fairbanks.
766
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:38,737
I'm so glad that you came by.
767
00:27:38,741 --> 00:27:40,572
I want to talk to you
about something.
768
00:27:40,576 --> 00:27:42,699
Um... drop these off.
769
00:27:42,703 --> 00:27:44,163
Come take a walk with me.
770
00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:47,454
How are you faring?
771
00:27:47,458 --> 00:27:49,748
You know, uh,
it's a lot going on.
772
00:27:49,752 --> 00:27:51,087
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
773
00:27:55,049 --> 00:27:56,296
Come here.
774
00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:57,718
-Hi.
-Hi.
775
00:27:59,512 --> 00:28:00,634
Mm.
776
00:28:00,638 --> 00:28:02,260
What's going on?
777
00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:05,138
Sorry.
I got caught up in the moment.
778
00:28:05,142 --> 00:28:07,140
You got caught up?
779
00:28:07,144 --> 00:28:09,059
I'm not myself.
780
00:28:09,063 --> 00:28:10,356
Say more.
781
00:28:11,941 --> 00:28:13,359
Uh...
782
00:28:15,403 --> 00:28:18,527
You should probably...
go home.
783
00:28:18,531 --> 00:28:20,366
No.
784
00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:23,782
Are you under a lot of pressure?
785
00:28:23,786 --> 00:28:26,284
Uh...
786
00:28:26,288 --> 00:28:27,456
Yes.
787
00:28:30,084 --> 00:28:32,833
I bet this closet
has seen some action.
788
00:28:38,634 --> 00:28:40,803
Let me walk you out.
789
00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:47,726
Okay.
790
00:28:59,321 --> 00:29:00,902
Motherfuck!
791
00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:07,993
Trust someone?
Most trusted man in radio,
792
00:29:07,997 --> 00:29:09,494
And then you know what happens?
793
00:29:09,498 --> 00:29:10,620
They go and say
you're a fucking liar!
794
00:29:10,624 --> 00:29:12,122
Motherfuckers.
795
00:29:15,045 --> 00:29:16,672
Uh, ma'am,
are you Effie Kiritsis?
796
00:29:18,174 --> 00:29:19,713
I'm Ginny Hughes with WIBC.
797
00:29:19,717 --> 00:29:21,631
I wanted to ask you
a few questions.
798
00:29:23,888 --> 00:29:25,677
Okay, not a problem.
799
00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:27,220
I'll just go next door
and I'll talk to your neighbors.
800
00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:30,640
Wait.
801
00:29:33,606 --> 00:29:35,691
Don't go bothering my neighbors.
802
00:29:37,401 --> 00:29:38,899
Call me a fuckin' liar?
803
00:29:38,903 --> 00:29:43,278
They wouldn't know
a fuckin' grunt...
804
00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:48,617
No wonder I'm so fucked up.
805
00:29:48,621 --> 00:29:50,368
They say I'm a fuckin' liar.
806
00:29:50,372 --> 00:29:52,162
What do I would lie about?
807
00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:54,498
You... you think Indianapolis
is cold in the winter?
808
00:29:54,502 --> 00:29:56,629
Should try being on
a fucking mountain in Korea.
809
00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:01,046
Um...
810
00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:02,426
is it okay if I take notes?
811
00:30:06,305 --> 00:30:08,136
So, I guess you heard about
812
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:09,934
what Tony did
to get his money from me?
813
00:30:11,352 --> 00:30:12,144
Mm-hmm.
814
00:30:17,233 --> 00:30:20,319
As far as I'm concerned,
it was a family matter.
815
00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:22,571
Okay.
816
00:30:24,615 --> 00:30:26,488
I never called the police.
817
00:30:26,492 --> 00:30:28,035
I never wanted to press charges.
818
00:30:32,289 --> 00:30:34,412
Do you mind if I record this?
819
00:30:34,416 --> 00:30:35,956
Oh, you've gotta give us a win.
820
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,874
You've gotta give us,
Hey! Fred?
821
00:30:37,878 --> 00:30:39,543
Remind these weasels
822
00:30:39,547 --> 00:30:41,753
that we're hip-deep
in a hostage crisis
823
00:30:41,757 --> 00:30:44,256
and their boss needs to respond
to the immunity...
824
00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:45,215
There's a process!
825
00:30:45,219 --> 00:30:47,467
Don't give me that horseshit!
826
00:30:47,471 --> 00:30:49,594
You still can't find him,
can you?
827
00:30:49,598 --> 00:30:50,887
We're ready for you, Chief.
828
00:30:50,891 --> 00:30:52,222
Roger that.
829
00:30:52,226 --> 00:30:53,807
Gotta go.
830
00:30:53,811 --> 00:30:56,059
Hey. But let me know when
Malibu Barbie gets back to town.
831
00:30:56,063 --> 00:30:57,018
He's at a conference!
832
00:30:57,022 --> 00:30:58,395
Oh, bullshit.
833
00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:00,063
Okay.
834
00:31:00,067 --> 00:31:02,274
Civil,
where are we with this apology?
835
00:31:02,278 --> 00:31:03,942
Meridian is working on a draft.
836
00:31:03,946 --> 00:31:05,151
And?
837
00:31:05,155 --> 00:31:06,945
It needs to be okayed
by M.L.
838
00:31:06,949 --> 00:31:09,489
And M.L. still
cannot be contacted.
839
00:31:09,493 --> 00:31:10,991
What am I supposed
to tell Tony about this, huh?
840
00:31:10,995 --> 00:31:13,577
Mr, uh, Fairbanks
wants to talk to you
841
00:31:13,581 --> 00:31:15,124
in, uh, in my office.
842
00:31:17,251 --> 00:31:18,669
Excuse me, gentlemen.
843
00:31:24,842 --> 00:31:27,136
It-it's line five.
844
00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:31,428
Hello, Mr. Fairbanks?
845
00:31:31,432 --> 00:31:32,846
Fred, I want to congratulate you
846
00:31:32,850 --> 00:31:35,765
on a well-conducted interview
with a madman.
847
00:31:35,769 --> 00:31:37,517
That interview
has gotten tongues wagging
848
00:31:37,521 --> 00:31:38,977
all over our great city.
849
00:31:38,981 --> 00:31:40,520
People cannot get enough of it.
850
00:31:40,524 --> 00:31:44,482
I want WIBC to be the name
on everybody's lips.
851
00:31:44,486 --> 00:31:46,818
You and this lunatic
are the best thing on radio.
852
00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:48,361
Fred! It's Tony.
853
00:31:48,365 --> 00:31:49,696
I'll take it in my office.
854
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:51,323
Thank you, Mr. Fairbanks.
855
00:31:51,327 --> 00:31:53,700
Uh... I-I've gotta go.
856
00:31:53,704 --> 00:31:55,452
Uh...
857
00:31:55,456 --> 00:31:56,745
Yeah, okay.
858
00:31:56,749 --> 00:31:58,330
-What line?
-Uh, two.
859
00:31:58,334 --> 00:31:59,539
Tape it.
860
00:31:59,543 --> 00:32:00,665
Tape it?
Why are we taping this?
861
00:32:00,669 --> 00:32:02,167
No! We need to go on the air!
862
00:32:02,171 --> 00:32:04,085
Jerry, I'm not prepared
to go on the air live with it.
863
00:32:04,089 --> 00:32:06,254
-You heard Mr. Fairbanks!
-He's gonna ask questions
864
00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:07,464
that I am not prepared to answer!
865
00:32:07,468 --> 00:32:08,632
Do you even listen to me?
866
00:32:08,636 --> 00:32:10,156
We don't have
the answer to them
867
00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:15,225
Tony?
868
00:32:16,685 --> 00:32:18,016
Uh, Tony? Did we lose him?
869
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:19,309
Tony, are you there?
870
00:32:19,313 --> 00:32:20,272
Tony!
871
00:32:22,566 --> 00:32:24,193
Are-are-are you there?
872
00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:28,443
Yes, Mr. Heckman. I'm here.
873
00:32:28,447 --> 00:32:30,487
Ah, welcome back to the program.
874
00:32:30,491 --> 00:32:32,822
Any news at all? Fuck.
875
00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:34,783
How are we doing?
876
00:32:34,787 --> 00:32:38,119
I'm a little concerned
about your station's reporting.
877
00:32:38,123 --> 00:32:39,788
-Oh?
-I heard you broadcast
878
00:32:39,792 --> 00:32:41,456
that you couldn't find any record
879
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,500
that I had been at West Point.
880
00:32:43,504 --> 00:32:46,211
Well, who would like
to bet me $100,000
881
00:32:46,215 --> 00:32:48,171
that I was there?
882
00:32:50,177 --> 00:32:52,717
Well, tell them
to get their 100,000 bucks out,
883
00:32:52,721 --> 00:32:54,928
because I was there as an
advisor to the instructor
884
00:32:54,932 --> 00:32:56,888
on heavy infantry weapons.
885
00:32:56,892 --> 00:33:00,058
That's anti-personnel weapons,
anti-tank weapons,
886
00:33:00,062 --> 00:33:01,810
mortars, recoilless rifles.
887
00:33:01,814 --> 00:33:03,311
-Well, now, Tony...
-I was there, pal!
888
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:05,355
We had to fact-check that,
but I'll concede
889
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:06,815
that just 'cause
we didn't find a record of it
890
00:33:06,819 --> 00:33:08,191
doesn't mean you weren't there.
891
00:33:08,195 --> 00:33:09,484
Yeah, I can just hear the people.
892
00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:11,111
They're gonna call me a phony.
893
00:33:11,115 --> 00:33:12,487
They're gonna say I wasn't there.
894
00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:14,322
Well, I'll take you there,
895
00:33:14,326 --> 00:33:16,324
and I'll show you my name
carved into a fucking rock.
896
00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:17,909
Tony, no one's infallible.
897
00:33:17,913 --> 00:33:19,233
I will personally look into this.
898
00:33:21,291 --> 00:33:22,706
You know, the average guy
899
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:24,082
that would've gone through
something like this
900
00:33:24,086 --> 00:33:26,960
would've had a heart attack
or-or a stroke by now?
901
00:33:26,964 --> 00:33:28,712
They're lucky
they're dealing with me,
902
00:33:28,716 --> 00:33:30,796
'cause some Nervous Norman
would've shot him already.
903
00:33:35,264 --> 00:33:37,762
Did you, uh, did you look into
my Eisner-Osco deal?
904
00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:39,431
Well, about that, Tony,
905
00:33:39,435 --> 00:33:41,433
I haven't really received
any corroboration on that,
906
00:33:41,437 --> 00:33:43,935
and Eisner-Osco
has no comment at this time.
907
00:33:43,939 --> 00:33:45,145
Um, I'm wondering,
908
00:33:45,149 --> 00:33:46,646
uh, how is Dick?
Can I talk to him?
909
00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:48,064
No, forget about Dick.
910
00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:49,566
This has nothing to do with Dick.
911
00:33:49,570 --> 00:33:51,067
Uh, what about M.L.?
912
00:33:51,071 --> 00:33:53,194
Where's my apology?
913
00:33:53,198 --> 00:33:54,988
Well, um...
914
00:33:54,992 --> 00:33:56,531
we have spoken to them,
915
00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:57,907
and they are
aware of your request,
916
00:33:57,911 --> 00:33:59,951
but I tell you what, Tony,
917
00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:01,786
we-we-we have to know
that Dick is okay.
918
00:34:01,790 --> 00:34:03,371
I mean, his wife, Ibby,
and his children,
919
00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,998
are completely upset about thi.
920
00:34:05,002 --> 00:34:06,082
Yeah, poor Ibby
and the kids, yeah.
921
00:34:06,086 --> 00:34:07,500
-I feel for 'em.
-Yeah. Yeah.
922
00:34:07,504 --> 00:34:08,877
Well, don't you think
it might be a nice gesture,
923
00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:11,212
maybe, if you
let him speak to his wife?
924
00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:13,590
Why should I be the one doing
the nice gestures, huh, Fred?
925
00:34:13,594 --> 00:34:15,300
You know the truth, Dick.
926
00:34:15,304 --> 00:34:16,468
Why don't you tell
the listening audience
927
00:34:16,472 --> 00:34:17,927
what you and your family did
928
00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:19,471
to an ordinary guy like me?
929
00:34:19,475 --> 00:34:21,556
Go ahead. You know, Fred,
he's right here.
930
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,312
We tried to work with you, Tony.
931
00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:26,561
Uh, I'm sorry, Tony.
932
00:34:26,565 --> 00:34:27,896
I couldn't quite hear
what Dick said.
933
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:29,230
-That's a lie.
-Can I speak to him?
934
00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:31,149
That's a fuckin' lie!
935
00:34:31,153 --> 00:34:32,776
You motherfuck!
936
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:35,153
Are you listening
to this motherfucker?
937
00:34:35,157 --> 00:34:37,989
You and your father didn't try
to work it out with me!
938
00:34:37,993 --> 00:34:39,449
- Okay, you sound really upset,
- Motherfucker!
939
00:34:39,453 --> 00:34:40,658
Tony, and I understand that.
940
00:34:40,662 --> 00:34:42,202
Now, can I just,
can I speak to Dick?
941
00:34:42,206 --> 00:34:43,161
You don't know
the Halls like I do, Fred.
942
00:34:43,165 --> 00:34:44,704
They are vipers!
943
00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:47,415
I've met more selfish, deceitful
people in real estate
944
00:34:47,419 --> 00:34:49,250
than in any other business
I've been in,
945
00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:50,376
including the used-car business!
946
00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:52,170
Listen, Tony,
don't you think that,
947
00:34:52,174 --> 00:34:55,006
with the increased visibility
of this particular situation,
948
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:58,134
that this might reflect better
on your situation?
949
00:34:58,138 --> 00:34:59,511
Well, I've never told
a lie in my life,
950
00:34:59,515 --> 00:35:01,596
and I haven't told a lie
since the situation started.
951
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,098
I don't need to,
'cause I've got nothing to hide.
952
00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:06,100
When we get through with this,
you're gonna think I'm a witch,
953
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:07,685
and I think
I've already proven that,
954
00:35:07,689 --> 00:35:09,479
I knew what was going on,
955
00:35:09,483 --> 00:35:11,105
and there was nothing
I could do about it!
956
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:12,857
There was nothing
I could do to stop it,
957
00:35:12,861 --> 00:35:14,317
and you know, Fred,
I haven't heard you
958
00:35:14,321 --> 00:35:16,194
say that once on the air,
959
00:35:16,198 --> 00:35:18,780
as much as I've heard you
call me a goddamn kidnapper!
960
00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:20,532
Well, now, Tony, we are
looking into all of your claims,
961
00:35:20,536 --> 00:35:22,659
and we are taking them
very, very, very seriously.
962
00:35:22,663 --> 00:35:24,285
Oh, fuck! Fuck!
Fred, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
963
00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:25,749
Fuck.
964
00:35:30,212 --> 00:35:32,130
Okay.
965
00:35:33,882 --> 00:35:35,296
Okay.
966
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,803
Yeah.
Did M.L. issue the apology?
967
00:35:39,429 --> 00:35:42,053
Well, we're...
we're working on that, Tony.
968
00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:43,304
Well, did you
969
00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:45,390
speak to him on the phone
or in person?
970
00:35:45,394 --> 00:35:47,433
Well...
971
00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:48,560
Tony, we're working on it.
972
00:35:48,564 --> 00:35:50,190
Well, what'd he say?
973
00:35:56,405 --> 00:35:58,407
Well, Tony...
974
00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:00,742
we're working on it.
975
00:36:03,787 --> 00:36:06,081
He hasn't spoken to you, has he?
976
00:36:08,041 --> 00:36:10,711
You don't even know
where he is, do ya?
977
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:18,552
I know where he is.
978
00:36:20,846 --> 00:36:23,015
He's in Florida.
979
00:36:25,684 --> 00:36:28,099
His secretary told me.
980
00:36:28,103 --> 00:36:30,685
He's stuffin' his face with crab.
981
00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:32,562
They go down there every winter,
982
00:36:32,566 --> 00:36:35,273
deep-sea fishing,
and all that crap.
983
00:36:35,277 --> 00:36:36,941
You know, they're so rich,
984
00:36:36,945 --> 00:36:38,693
they don't even hold
their own fishing poles.
985
00:36:38,697 --> 00:36:40,282
The boat does the fishin'
for you.
986
00:36:41,825 --> 00:36:43,239
You hear that, Dick?
987
00:36:43,243 --> 00:36:45,074
Your own father
988
00:36:45,078 --> 00:36:46,747
can't be bothered
to come to the phone...
989
00:36:49,291 --> 00:36:50,538
for his own son.
990
00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:51,998
Tony, can I speak to Dick?
991
00:36:52,002 --> 00:36:53,374
I'm gonna
walk out of here a free man.
992
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:55,084
Can I speak to Dick,
please, Tony?
993
00:36:55,088 --> 00:36:56,294
They aren't going to book me,
994
00:36:56,298 --> 00:36:57,921
they aren't gonna mug me,
995
00:36:57,925 --> 00:36:59,547
they aren't gonna print me,
996
00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:01,132
they aren't gonna send me
to a fucking psychiatrist,
997
00:37:01,136 --> 00:37:02,383
'cause I don't need one,
998
00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:04,181
I don't care who knows it
or what they say.
999
00:37:06,642 --> 00:37:08,518
I'm a pretty smart man.
1000
00:37:12,731 --> 00:37:14,062
Don't get me wrong,
1001
00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:16,318
I feel
for Ibby and the kids, but...
1002
00:37:19,488 --> 00:37:21,527
This is my last chance.
1003
00:37:21,531 --> 00:37:22,991
That land
is all I have left, Fred.
1004
00:37:24,952 --> 00:37:27,408
I need you to get me my apology.
1005
00:37:27,412 --> 00:37:29,748
Don't underestimate my resolve.
1006
00:37:31,291 --> 00:37:32,042
You know, I...
1007
00:37:33,794 --> 00:37:35,921
I chose you for a reason.
1008
00:37:40,175 --> 00:37:43,007
You chose me?
1009
00:37:43,011 --> 00:37:45,259
You were
a part of my plan all along.
1010
00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:47,387
You... you chose me?
1011
00:37:47,391 --> 00:37:48,972
'Course I did.
1012
00:37:48,976 --> 00:37:51,975
You were there
on the darkest days of my life,
1013
00:37:51,979 --> 00:37:53,351
and you didn't even know it.
1014
00:37:53,355 --> 00:37:57,522
I knew that,
for people to listen to me,
1015
00:37:57,526 --> 00:38:00,195
to really understand
my situation...
1016
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:03,528
I needed you.
1017
00:38:03,532 --> 00:38:07,615
They played God and lost.
1018
00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:10,080
You don't have to be smart
to be God.
1019
00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:13,542
You just have to be cheap.
1020
00:38:15,085 --> 00:38:17,750
That's all I gotta say, Fred.
1021
00:38:28,348 --> 00:38:31,431
Goddamn it, Fred!
That would've been radio gold!
1022
00:38:31,435 --> 00:38:33,141
We could've gone live!
1023
00:38:33,145 --> 00:38:35,393
Instead, we get this.
1024
00:38:35,397 --> 00:38:36,686
Uh, Bobby Knight
1025
00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:39,105
certainly took
that Michigan loss hard.
1026
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:40,732
As we know,
1027
00:38:40,736 --> 00:38:43,401
the general takes
these defeats, uh, personally.
1028
00:38:43,405 --> 00:38:45,778
How many times
1029
00:38:45,782 --> 00:38:47,405
do I have to hear about
Bobby fucking Knight?
1030
00:38:47,409 --> 00:38:48,865
What does he have for breakfast?
1031
00:38:48,869 --> 00:38:51,743
Does he give Quinn Buckner
a foot bath after practice?
1032
00:38:51,747 --> 00:38:53,327
Blah! Blah! We get it!
1033
00:38:53,331 --> 00:38:55,663
We all saw the fucking game!
1034
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:57,290
The Hoosiers will be
1035
00:38:57,294 --> 00:38:59,250
back at Assembly Hall
tomorrow night
1036
00:38:59,254 --> 00:39:01,586
to face off with Purdue.
1037
00:39:01,590 --> 00:39:03,921
Some Hoosier hysteria
1038
00:39:03,925 --> 00:39:07,425
the likes of which
only Carole Lombard has seen!
1039
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:11,679
This is Ed McMahon
1040
00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:14,182
inviting you to join me
Thursday, September 13th,
1041
00:39:14,186 --> 00:39:16,267
for a night on the town
in Hollywood.
1042
00:39:16,271 --> 00:39:18,770
Gary Todd is coming
to visit me in California,
1043
00:39:18,774 --> 00:39:21,647
and he'll bring two lucky
WIBC listeners along.
1044
00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:24,525
If you are the WIBC
Tonight Show Contest winner,
1045
00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:26,652
you'll jet to California
with Gary,
1046
00:39:26,656 --> 00:39:28,237
be my guest at The Tonight Show,
1047
00:39:28,241 --> 00:39:29,697
meet Johnny,
1048
00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:31,074
and join me for dinner
after the show.
1049
00:39:31,078 --> 00:39:32,825
Your father's not coming through.
1050
00:39:32,829 --> 00:39:34,452
It'll be a night of
McMahon, Martinis, and Madness,
1051
00:39:34,456 --> 00:39:35,620
so send your name, address,
and telephone number
1052
00:39:35,624 --> 00:39:36,746
to Ed McMahon...
1053
00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:38,706
I wonder why
he's not coming through.
1054
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:42,960
...Indianapolis,
and right now, here's Gary.
1055
00:39:42,964 --> 00:39:45,296
I don't know
what's gonna become of you.
1056
00:39:47,928 --> 00:39:49,346
Poor Ibby.
1057
00:39:50,972 --> 00:39:53,137
Poor, poor Ibby.
1058
00:40:19,543 --> 00:40:20,706
Dick Hall?
1059
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:22,629
You must be Ibby Metsker.
1060
00:40:24,297 --> 00:40:26,254
Hi.
1061
00:40:26,258 --> 00:40:28,422
Hi.
1062
00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:29,886
Uh...
1063
00:40:31,346 --> 00:40:33,390
Thank you.
1064
00:40:42,774 --> 00:40:45,064
I just hate blind dates,
don't you?
1065
00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:47,024
Well, I did until today.
1066
00:40:47,028 --> 00:40:49,739
Greg, he never mentioned
you were such a knockout.
1067
00:40:54,828 --> 00:40:57,201
So...
1068
00:40:57,205 --> 00:40:58,494
you're in construction?
1069
00:40:58,498 --> 00:41:01,539
My brother Jack
does construction.
1070
00:41:01,543 --> 00:41:03,708
My brother Bill
does the mortgage,
1071
00:41:03,712 --> 00:41:05,459
and I do the real estate
with my dad.
1072
00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:07,545
Real estate?
1073
00:41:07,549 --> 00:41:10,131
Huh.
1074
00:41:10,135 --> 00:41:12,383
So...
you lived in Japan?
1075
00:41:12,387 --> 00:41:15,928
Tokyo,
until I went to college at I.U.
1076
00:41:15,932 --> 00:41:17,597
Kappa Kappa Gamma.
1077
00:41:17,601 --> 00:41:19,515
Did you eat that raw fish?
1078
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:20,520
Yes, I did.
1079
00:41:22,856 --> 00:41:25,438
And what did
your dad do in Japan?
1080
00:41:25,442 --> 00:41:28,111
Oh, he works
for the State Department.
1081
00:41:30,614 --> 00:41:32,445
Have you ever been abroad?
1082
00:41:32,449 --> 00:41:33,571
Does San Diego count?
1083
00:41:34,993 --> 00:41:38,743
Uh... well, let's order drinks.
1084
00:41:38,747 --> 00:41:40,995
I'll flag a waitress
and then put our order in.
1085
00:41:40,999 --> 00:41:42,079
Heard the steaks are really good.
1086
00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:43,915
Look.
1087
00:41:43,919 --> 00:41:48,211
Um...
you seem like a very nice guy.
1088
00:41:48,215 --> 00:41:50,342
Have you ever been
in a, in a Cessna?
1089
00:41:51,968 --> 00:41:53,299
Well, that's a line
if I've ever heard one.
1090
00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:55,551
I'm serious.
1091
00:41:55,555 --> 00:41:57,345
I'm about to get
my private pilot license,
1092
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:59,555
and I would love
to take you up in one,
1093
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,891
and I promise,
you'll never forget it.
1094
00:42:01,895 --> 00:42:03,392
I don't know.
1095
00:42:03,396 --> 00:42:05,603
I'm not much for jerky movements.
1096
00:42:05,607 --> 00:42:07,396
Close your eyes.
1097
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,731
What?
1098
00:42:08,735 --> 00:42:10,399
Close your eyes.
1099
00:42:10,403 --> 00:42:11,901
Seriously,
I'll take you through it.
1100
00:42:11,905 --> 00:42:14,111
It'll... you'll love it.
1101
00:42:14,115 --> 00:42:17,198
Just... close them.
1102
00:42:17,202 --> 00:42:18,578
Okay.
1103
00:42:20,789 --> 00:42:22,078
All right, you ready?
1104
00:42:22,082 --> 00:42:23,162
Mm-hmm.
1105
00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:25,001
Okay, so you're, um...
1106
00:42:28,755 --> 00:42:31,379
you're looking beautiful
in the passenger seat...
1107
00:42:31,383 --> 00:42:32,964
Thank you.
1108
00:42:32,968 --> 00:42:35,925
And I'm looking
very handsome in the pilot seat.
1109
00:42:35,929 --> 00:42:37,802
All you can see
is the back of my head.
1110
00:42:37,806 --> 00:42:39,845
Full head of hair.
1111
00:42:39,849 --> 00:42:44,183
Ha! And, uh,
I start the engine...
1112
00:42:44,187 --> 00:42:46,811
and it's loud.
1113
00:42:46,815 --> 00:42:49,397
Um, we're about to take off,
and all of a sudden,
1114
00:42:49,401 --> 00:42:52,737
the ground goes away,
and all there is...
1115
00:42:54,281 --> 00:42:56,237
is sky.
1116
00:42:56,241 --> 00:42:59,782
You can almost...
feel the physics of the wind.
1117
00:42:59,786 --> 00:43:01,492
Physics of the wind?
1118
00:43:01,496 --> 00:43:03,536
-See...
-I like that.
1119
00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:05,871
See, flying...
1120
00:43:05,875 --> 00:43:08,791
is like riding the wind
like people ride ocean waves.
1121
00:43:08,795 --> 00:43:11,627
You can feel the Earth
and the sky.
1122
00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:15,298
It is so graceful,
moving through the air,
1123
00:43:15,302 --> 00:43:17,800
and your body knows
that it's defying physics,
1124
00:43:17,804 --> 00:43:19,093
but for a moment in time,
1125
00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:22,722
you are doing something
beyond language.
1126
00:43:22,726 --> 00:43:25,308
Something close to God himself.
1127
00:43:25,312 --> 00:43:26,813
It's...
1128
00:43:31,151 --> 00:43:32,277
magical.
1129
00:43:40,368 --> 00:43:42,074
When do you get your license?
1130
00:43:42,078 --> 00:43:43,705
I don't know.
1131
00:43:45,665 --> 00:43:48,539
It's a question
of when the instructor
1132
00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:52,209
thinks I'm ready for
my first solo flight one day.
1133
00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:54,003
On that day,
1134
00:43:54,007 --> 00:43:56,922
he'll simply get
out of the plane and say,
1135
00:43:56,926 --> 00:43:59,467
"Okay, she's all yours."
1136
00:43:59,471 --> 00:44:03,850
And then I'll...
take my first solo flight.
1137
00:44:07,896 --> 00:44:09,477
So, after the flight,
1138
00:44:09,481 --> 00:44:11,145
you know, once it's successful,
1139
00:44:11,149 --> 00:44:12,938
uh, he will cut my shirttails,
1140
00:44:12,942 --> 00:44:14,440
which indicates
1141
00:44:14,444 --> 00:44:16,817
that I no longer need
to hold on to the instructor
1142
00:44:16,821 --> 00:44:18,069
for guidance anymore,
1143
00:44:18,073 --> 00:44:20,946
so I have been wearing
my favorite shirt
1144
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:23,199
each flight now
for the past week,
1145
00:44:23,203 --> 00:44:25,242
just in case.
1146
00:44:25,246 --> 00:44:29,163
I hope I'm not too emotional
when it happens...
1147
00:44:29,167 --> 00:44:31,332
which should be any day now,
1148
00:44:31,336 --> 00:44:34,756
so I can...
take you up for real.
1149
00:44:39,135 --> 00:44:41,550
You're not at all
what Jackie said about you.
1150
00:44:41,554 --> 00:44:42,843
Uh-huh?
1151
00:44:42,847 --> 00:44:44,053
I take that's a good thing.
1152
00:44:44,057 --> 00:44:45,266
Very good.
1153
00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:49,687
I think I'd like that drink now.
1154
00:44:51,272 --> 00:44:53,062
Um, ma'am?
1155
00:45:40,321 --> 00:45:41,235
Hello?
1156
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,237
Hey, Ed? It's Gene.
1157
00:45:43,241 --> 00:45:44,780
You been listening to the radio?
1158
00:45:44,784 --> 00:45:46,449
Yeah.
1159
00:45:46,453 --> 00:45:48,909
Yeah.
1160
00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:50,786
Things are starting to unravel.
1161
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:52,997
Uh, Heckman's a civilian.
1162
00:45:53,001 --> 00:45:55,499
We can't have
a civilian handling things.
1163
00:45:55,503 --> 00:45:56,333
That guy you mentioned,
1164
00:45:56,337 --> 00:45:57,501
the expert,
1165
00:45:57,505 --> 00:45:59,420
I think we're gonna need him.
1166
00:45:59,424 --> 00:46:01,380
Judy?
1167
00:46:01,384 --> 00:46:03,048
Hi. I've marked, uh...
1168
00:46:03,052 --> 00:46:05,176
10 upscale seafood restaurants
in the Fort Lauderdale area.
1169
00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:06,677
Can you see
if you can find a reservation
1170
00:46:06,681 --> 00:46:07,636
for Mr. Hall
in one of them, please?
1171
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,096
Not a problem.
1172
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:10,890
Oh, and, uh, Ralph Bass
is on line one.
1173
00:46:10,894 --> 00:46:12,645
I'll take it in my office.
1174
00:46:14,272 --> 00:46:15,565
Hold for Mr. Heckman.
1175
00:46:18,276 --> 00:46:20,024
Ralph? Fred Heckman.
Nice to hear from you.
1176
00:46:20,028 --> 00:46:21,317
Uh, listen.
1177
00:46:21,321 --> 00:46:23,527
I don't know if you have
been following WIBC,
1178
00:46:23,531 --> 00:46:26,113
but this story is blooming,
1179
00:46:26,117 --> 00:46:27,865
uh, and I've also been able
1180
00:46:27,869 --> 00:46:29,366
to track down a few leads
on this mortgage.
1181
00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:30,659
Yeah, it's big, all right.
1182
00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:33,746
We've got a reporter,
a whole team, in fact,
1183
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:36,040
from CBS heading there now.
1184
00:46:36,044 --> 00:46:37,583
What do you mean,
you're sending a reporter?
1185
00:46:37,587 --> 00:46:38,751
I thought I was the reporter.
1186
00:46:38,755 --> 00:46:40,085
I'm sorry, Fred,
1187
00:46:40,089 --> 00:46:41,545
and you know
I'm your biggest fan,
1188
00:46:41,549 --> 00:46:43,339
but this is how
things go sometimes.
1189
00:46:43,343 --> 00:46:44,924
I don't understand.
1190
00:46:44,928 --> 00:46:48,385
Look, I think
this story got away from you.
1191
00:46:48,389 --> 00:46:51,222
Turn on the news, Fred.
You'll see what I mean.
1192
00:46:51,226 --> 00:46:52,723
Respectfully, Ralph,
1193
00:46:52,727 --> 00:46:54,183
I don't have to turn on the news.
1194
00:46:54,187 --> 00:46:55,851
I write the news.
1195
00:46:55,855 --> 00:46:57,811
I'm the lead reporter
on this story.
1196
00:46:57,815 --> 00:47:00,026
Fred... you are the story.
1197
00:47:02,362 --> 00:47:06,529
Fred Heckman,
News Director for WIBC,
1198
00:47:06,533 --> 00:47:09,281
is the point of contact
for Mr. Anthony Kiritsis.
1199
00:47:09,285 --> 00:47:11,909
Sources close to WIBC tell us
1200
00:47:11,913 --> 00:47:14,119
that in a second,
unaired conversation,
1201
00:47:14,123 --> 00:47:16,247
Kiritsis did disclose
1202
00:47:16,251 --> 00:47:17,831
that he deliberately
chose Mr. Heckman
1203
00:47:17,835 --> 00:47:19,583
to be his spokesman,
1204
00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:21,126
and, in fact,
1205
00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:22,836
he was part of Kiritsis's plan
all along.
1206
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,754
Sources say Mr. Heckman...
1207
00:47:25,051 --> 00:47:27,258
If any outside press calls here
1208
00:47:27,262 --> 00:47:28,551
looking for information
1209
00:47:28,555 --> 00:47:31,262
about my conversations
with Tony Kiritsis,
1210
00:47:31,266 --> 00:47:33,138
the answer is "no comment."
1211
00:47:33,142 --> 00:47:34,682
Is that understood?
1212
00:47:34,686 --> 00:47:36,267
-Fred?
-What, Judy? What?
1213
00:47:36,271 --> 00:47:38,185
We found M.L. Hall
at Neptune's Palace,
1214
00:47:38,189 --> 00:47:39,895
Fort Lauderdale.
He's on line three.
1215
00:47:39,899 --> 00:47:41,105
He's been notified
of the situation.
1216
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:43,399
Goddammit.
1217
00:47:43,403 --> 00:47:45,568
Mr. Hall?
Hi, this is Fred Heckman.
1218
00:47:45,572 --> 00:47:47,486
Hello, Mr. Heckman.
1219
00:47:47,490 --> 00:47:49,405
Listen, uh, we understand
1220
00:47:49,409 --> 00:47:52,366
that there is a draft
of an apology from Meridian
1221
00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:54,122
for your consideration, sir?
1222
00:47:56,916 --> 00:47:58,084
Hello?
1223
00:48:00,545 --> 00:48:02,922
I've done nothing wrong.
1224
00:48:04,465 --> 00:48:05,921
I understand this is
a very difficult time
1225
00:48:05,925 --> 00:48:07,673
for you, sir, uh, but...
1226
00:48:07,677 --> 00:48:09,300
I just want to tell you,
1227
00:48:09,304 --> 00:48:12,595
your son is in what appears
to be a very dire situation,
1228
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:14,763
sir, and if there's
anything that you can...
1229
00:48:14,767 --> 00:48:16,640
I'm not apologizing.
1230
00:48:35,163 --> 00:48:37,536
♪ I am the very model
of a modern Major-General ♪
1231
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:39,955
♪ I've information vegetable
Animal, and mineral ♪
1232
00:48:39,959 --> 00:48:41,206
♪ I know the Kings
of England ♪
1233
00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:43,167
♪ And I quote
the fights historical ♪
1234
00:48:43,171 --> 00:48:45,502
♪ From Marathon to Waterloo
in order categorical ♪
1235
00:48:45,506 --> 00:48:48,047
♪ I'm very well acquainted, too
with matters mathematical ♪
1236
00:48:48,051 --> 00:48:49,548
♪ I understand equations ♪
1237
00:48:49,552 --> 00:48:50,758
♪ Both the simple
and quadratical ♪
1238
00:48:50,762 --> 00:48:52,176
♪ About binomial theorem ♪
1239
00:48:52,180 --> 00:48:53,500
♪ I'm teeming
with a lot of news ♪