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The structure of any civilization
depends for its strength on conformity.

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Conformity to accepted social behavior
patterns.

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Throughout history, these patterns are
constantly changing.

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What is acceptable at one time in
history is perhaps not acceptable to

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later generations.

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Nowhere is this conformity more apparent
than in the relationship between the

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sexes.

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Civilization finds its strength in high
social standards and society will be

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made chaotic and life impossible without
them.

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It is therefore the people who deviate
from these social standards who attract

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the most attention.

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The film you're about to see is an
investigation into a minority group and

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is by no means typical of modern urban
life.

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Excuse me, sir.

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Excuse me. Are you English?

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Yes, yeah.

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You are. Could you tell me where you're
from?

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Brighton. Brighton. Is this lady your
wife?

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Yes. I wonder if you know... I hope so.

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Have you heard about the cult of
wife-swapping?

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Well, we've read all about it, yes.

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You've just read about it?

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Yes, and talked about it, you know.

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You've discussed it with your wife?

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Yes, this... Your discussion, yes.

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Would you consider doing it yourself?

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We would consider it. We've talked about
this.

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You might consider it.

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I think one should be a little bit more
discreet myself, you know.

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Most men do, from what I've been told.

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But as far as, you know, man and wife
knowing about it, you know, and allowing

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each partner to do it.

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I honestly don't know if it comes out in
practice.

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Would you prefer adultery, perhaps, to
wife swapping?

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Well, it's been accepted for a long,
long time, you know. I think wife

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swapping is a new thing. Tell me, I get
the impression that you might have had

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some experience of this. Would this be
fair?

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Well, I have been married once before,
actually.

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That's about as far as it goes.

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And what about wife swapping? Well, we
have that in Sweden, too.

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Would you do that in Sweden?

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I wouldn't. You wouldn't? No.

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But I think there's quite a lot of
people doing it.

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Yes.

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Married couple, two couples, and say
exchange, but people are not bothered

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about it. It's an individual problem.

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Everybody has to make up their own.

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We're not bothered about it. If people
like it, they can have it.

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I wonder if you know about wife swapping
in London?

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Well, you wouldn't know anything about
it.

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We only got married yesterday.

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That's it. Thank you very much. Thank
you. Do you know anything about wife

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swapping? Who's got words to swap?

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You don't believe in marriage, in fact?

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No, it's a drag, man.

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It's a drag, you know?

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And what does a lady think about that?

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Well, you know, nobody gets married now,
do they?

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So you don't believe in marriage as an
institution?

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Well, no, so many marriages break up
these days, you know. I mean, it's much

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better just to live with a girl, and
then if it breaks down, well, then you

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part.

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It's a drag maybe if there's children.

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It's perhaps a situation that I haven't
really sussed out yet.

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But as far as I'm concerned at the
moment, then I'll live with her, but

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certainly not marry her.

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This thing of wife swapping, is this
possible in Grand Rapids, Michigan?

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Oh, it's happening.

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It's happening in Grand Rapids? Oh, yes.

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Wife swapping. Wife swapping. Do you
know about this? Have you read about

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this in Canada?

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I didn't read about that, but I know
what you mean.

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You know what I mean? I know what I
mean. Would you approve of it or

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disapprove of it? Personally, I'll
approve of it.

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You'll approve?

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I'll approve.

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Is your wife here? Yeah, she's right
there.

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Well, I wonder what she would say about
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No, I wouldn't like to try it.

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You wouldn't like to try it? Your
husband has just said he would.

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I don't think he will be doing it if I'm
not approving it.

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I'd like to swap my wife for a new
motor.

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There is a comforting, if overworked,
saying that there is nothing new under

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the sun.

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All new phenomena, we tell ourselves,
have a precedent in history.

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People don't change, only circumstance.

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Indeed, there's nothing new about
adultery.

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They invented adultery the day they
invented marriage.

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What is new and almost certainly unique
in the social history of the Western

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world is the prevalent and still growing
phenomena known as wife swapping.

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It is the first time that anyone does
anything that's the most frightening.

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The fear or the excitement of the
unknown complicates and confuses the

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rational thought processes.

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I was suddenly confused that evening as
Paul, my husband, drove me towards my

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first meeting with an organised
wife-swapping club.

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As we drove nearer and nearer the
address we'd been given, my fears grew.

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I couldn't believe Paul would go through
with it. I hoped he would turn the car

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round and drive me home, where we would
both pretend it had been a practical

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joke to test how far each of us would
go.

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I had always considered us a fairly
normal married couple.

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We had a lovely house, a daughter of
seven, and if our marriage wasn't

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exactly ecstatically happy, whose was?

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It was at first a very ordinary evening.

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We had had dinner, and Paul was reading
our daughter to sleep.

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At last the eggs cracked open one after
the other.

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What makes this new sexual license
unique is that it is not the indulgence

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of the idle and idolized, nor is it the
immature behavior of teenagers.

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Our wife-swappers are, in the main,
drawn from that very strata of society

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which has previously been considered the
very backbone of respectable urban life,

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the affluent professional middle
classes.

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Paul and Ellen had been married seven
years.

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All the resentments and frustrations of
those years while Paul was building his

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career had led to a slightly fractious
relationship in which sexual interest

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had all but gone.

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The marriage which came into being
primarily for the sake of the child is

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being held together almost entirely
because of it.

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Let us now recreate the moment when
Ellen first heard the phrase wife

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swapping. The time before she came to be
riding with her husband toward her first

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organized club experience.

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By the way, Leonard and his wife are
coming round.

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Leonard? Yes, Leonard.

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You remember, the chap with the boat on
the river.

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When are they coming?

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Tonight.

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You might have warned me.

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Don't start making a big deal of it.

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They're just dropping in.

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It's just that I hate a mess.

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Look, there's something I should tell
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Tell me later. What time are they
coming?

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Listen to me, Ellen.

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I've got to talk to you.

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I'm fed up with our marriage being a
pretense for the sake of our in-laws.

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I want us to find a basis on which we
can live together.

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Do you have any idea when we last made
love?

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I stopped keeping a diary when I was 15.

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Ellen, this is serious.

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I really can't see what this has got to
do with Leonard and his wife.

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Well, if you'd listen, I'd tell you.

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They had a similar problem.

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So?

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We found a solution.

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Really? What?

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We read about it a few months ago.

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Read about what?

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Well, those clubs.

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What are you talking about?

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Wife swapping.

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My first reaction was one of shocked
disbelief. I felt totally betrayed.

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The doorbell was already ringing and
Paul was answering it.

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I couldn't focus my mind enough to even
think what kind of monsters Leonard and

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his wife were going to be.

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My first impressions of them were very
hazy.

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I remember nothing of the introductions
Paul made, nor can I remember anything

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of what anyone said in those first few
moments.

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I felt an overwhelming embarrassment
over the purpose of their visit. Now,

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what do you have to drink?

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Gin? I remember Paul asking what
everyone wanted to drink, while I sat in

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desperate... Panic, groping in my mind
for something to say to these strangers

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that had so suddenly intruded into our
lives.

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Then Paul was asking me to fetch ice
from the kitchen.

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Any ice, darling?

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Only later did I know what was said
after I had left the room.

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Did you ask her?

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I had when you just arrived.

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Look, Leonard, I don't want to waste
your time like this, but...

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Maybe we'd better forget it.

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Leave it to me.

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Leave it all to me.

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Can I help you, Ellen?

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This stupid eyester. I can never get the
eyes out. Yeah, don't worry about it.

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I'll fix it.

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The one I skewed is my speciality.

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Leonard, I decided, was quite charming,
but I couldn't say the same for his

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wife.

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Jean suggested we play poker.

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Leonard's wife said very little, but
managed to make quite clear what she

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wanted. Nothing wrong with cards, is
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What does Ellen think?

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I don't mind.

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What are we going to use for chips?

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Let's play for... Matches, darling.

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What a drag.

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At first, the poker session seemed to be
quite normal and sociable.

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We played, perfectly well aware that
Jean, Leonard's wife, was growing more

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restless with each hand.

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However, as the game went on, I began to
relax, and I'd almost forgotten the

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reason Paul had brought these people to
the house.

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But obviously Jean had not forgotten.

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She couldn't sit still for long.

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What did you do that for?

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Corks. What?

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What she means is a cork game.

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What you have to do is you get two
corks. Pass that cork in.

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What you do is you get two corks and
you... I'll show you.

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It seemed a simple, almost childlike
game, but it was more difficult than it

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looked.

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Well, what happens if you fail? You take
something off.

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All right.

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Again?

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I suppose my reasons for playing were
simply a spirit of competitiveness or a

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feeling of security.

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A feeling that this was my house.

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that Paul was my husband and within
these walls nothing disastrous could

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happen.

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Maybe it was not wanting Jean and
Leonard to know there was any division

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between Paul and I.

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They treated it all so casually, as if
there was absolutely nothing

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extraordinary about what we were doing.

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Maybe it was merely feminine
perverseness, of wanting to see how far

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I would go, or Paul would let me.

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I felt I was being tested, that this was
a game designed specifically to test my

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nerve.

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Perhaps I hoped that Paul would see that
it wouldn't work, or that he couldn't

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let it work and he would intervene.

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Whatever it was, whatever I did or
thought of doing,

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I knew I wasn't going to be the one to
call a halt.

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And in the event, neither was he.

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When he didn't intervene but merely
looked up at me almost apologetically, I

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felt as if I had won a great victory.

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I had plunged, played their silly game,
met Jean on her own ground and imagined

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I was winning.

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I might even have begun to enjoy it.

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except that Jean was making plain her
one transparent aim, to get Paul.

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Oh. And I always thought you were good
at this game.

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Who says I'm not?

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It was obvious she was deliberately
losing.

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At this point, I thought she would drop
out of the game.

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That was not her intention.

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Well, that's you out of the game, isn't
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small you and me all or

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nothing

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My first impulse was to intervene, to
tear them apart.

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But instead I sat there in a turmoil of
indecision, and the moment for

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intervention had already passed.

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My only thought then was to get out of
the room in some way, a problem resolved

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for me by Leonard.

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As I left the room that night, I was
aware that something new had entered

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into my life.

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Paul?

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There was one last test to come.

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Paul.

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What was she like?

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We saw Leonard and Jean several times
after that, and on better acquaintance,

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Jean and I became good friends.

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Then Paul, along with Jean and Leonard,
started pressing me to join this larger

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group, of which Jean was a leading
member.

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After much persuasion, I finally agreed.

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And now this.

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I didn't want to go through with it.

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I wanted to ask Paul to turn the car and
take me home.

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But the car was already stopping there
was now no going back

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Not

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now

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the friendly exchange between two
couples but a confrontation with total

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strangers

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It is one further stage in the
escalation of the pleasure seekers.

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Paradoxically, although it's the wife
who will face the severest test, it's

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often the husband who will, in the
situation, start to have second

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thoughts.

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Are you sure about this?

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They asked us to wait outside the room,
and for the first time I realized that

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Paul was more nervous than I.

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But when the hostess brought us into the
room, I suddenly felt quite calm.

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My first impression was of faces with
masked eyes, and behind the

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eyes, minds assessing me.

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I sat looking directly back at them,
wondering what their thoughts were.

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As they watched me, I felt a growing
sense of excitement,

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anticipatory excitement.

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I felt suddenly flushed with confidence,
glowing at the focal point of all those

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eyes, and then a sudden terror in case
no man there would want me.

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All this time, even though the hostess
had been introducing me, I had hardly

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heard a word she had said. We must, of
course, proceed with the usual formal

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initiation of the wife.

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If any of you know this candidate to be
in any way unreliable,

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indiscreet, or in any other way barred
from membership within this group,

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Then now is the time to speak.

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There was a total silence.

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At that moment Paul might have spoken,
and it would have ended there.

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But he said nothing.

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I knew then I was going through with it.

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In the absence of any objections, we may
proceed to initiate the

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candidate.

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Candidate, in order to ensure your
loyalty and discretion within this

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group, and before any of us may be
permitted to identify ourselves to you,

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we require a total commitment from you.
Do you understand?

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You may choose your first lover.

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Disrobe.

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The total commitment, the eternal gift,
not given to one man in love and trust,

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but dedicated to a group in cynical
lust.

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Is it only, as Ellen insists, merely a
spirit of immature competitiveness?

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Or are there, beyond mere sexual
recreation, more driving psychological

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forces at work?

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We asked an eminent London psychiatrist.

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There can be many individual reasons for
participating in this cult of wife

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swapping. Without knowing the full life
histories of the participants, I can do

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no more than consider the fundamental
and general issues likely to be

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involved.

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Primarily within the sexual relationship
of any couple, disposed towards wife

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swapping, there is likely to be an
imbalance of sexual needs and

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enthusiasms.

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Out of the frustrations that this will
create, the idea may grow that group

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sex activity will improve things.

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Over the years, there may develop,
particularly in the male, a desire for

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more sexual variations and excitement.

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In the past, if he couldn't obtain this
from his wife, he would have taken a

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mistress or resorted to a prostitute.

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And today, with the present fashion for
thrill and the efficiency of

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present-day birth control methods, he
might attempt to induce his wife to

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become a partner in his promiscuous
activities.

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The appeal to the husband in this is
that he could gain sexual variation and

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avoid the complicated guilt that would
arise from having an affair.

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The wife's reaction to such a proposal
would be more emotionally

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complex. She would have her own
conscious or unconscious motivations,

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but initially,

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she would nearly always be submissively
indulgent in the interests of her

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husband's pleasure.

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Woman's drive for so-called equality
means

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that if her husband finds such activity
tempting, she will want to find

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it equally so.

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Women are in perpetual competition for
the admiration of men, and for self

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-respect they must succeed to an
adequate extent in this competition.

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This is manifest in the way that they
dress for social occasions, and as ever

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was, vie with each other for the
attention of the gallants.

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In wife-swapping,

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This urge extends from being flirtatious
to the display of actual

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intimate sexual prowess.

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And in this, the total effect is only
obtained if the husband is

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fully aware of his wife's success.

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Her confidence may grow in direct
contrast to

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her husband.

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who may well, as in the case of Paul,
have amounting sets of doubt and

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hesitation.

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All this applies to the case of Paul and
Ellen in general terms, but

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primarily the appeal of wife-swapping
can be simply a strong

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voyeuristic impulse.

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In the particular case of Paul and
Ellen,

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the sexual interest has fallen to a low
ebb,

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and by their standards, group sex seems
to have succeeded.

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But the most important fact here,
primarily, and for the future, is the

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children of the marriage.

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Children can be the strongest bond
between man and wife.

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We now understand something of the
fundamental impulses which drive people

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towards seeking group sex activity.

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And we've seen how one couple, through
the council of friends, found their way

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into such a group.

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It is a feature of most couples
established in the so-called swinging

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set that they will constantly seek to
involve others, a feature they share

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with drug addicts and alcoholics.

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We hadn't known this couple very long.

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but when they invited us for a weekend
on their boat, we jumped at the chance.

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Everything seemed to be perfect, even if
I was nervous when it was suggested I

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try my hand at steering.

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I wasn't used to boats, nor to the close
contacts that seemed inevitable in such

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confined surroundings.

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Despite this, I couldn't dismiss a
feeling that his wife was taking more

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than a friendly interest in my husband.

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The atmosphere was unsettling and
strange.

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But this, I reminded myself, was the
point.

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The change from everyday life.

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It would be silly to spoil it because it
was different.

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To say anything would have seemed
ungrateful to two very charming people.

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But still there was an atmosphere, and I
was apprehensive.

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The atmosphere that's being created
around this young couple is the result

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of careful and detailed planning.

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They are far from the routine of
household chores and the prying eyes of

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neighbours.

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The setting is such that the innocent
couple...

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cannot easily pack their bags and
depart.

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They are placed off balance by the
unfamiliarity of their surroundings.

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And what would, under normal
circumstances, call for immediate rebuke

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will cause hesitation and uncertainty.

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Time seemed to be divided almost equally
between frantic activity and sailing

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placidly along.

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Toward evening I'd almost forgotten my
first apprehensions.

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I was quite relaxed, happy and content
to laze in the sun, until my husband

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reminded us that it had been a long time
since lunch.

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we moored that evening it fell to me to

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prepare the evening meal and the easy
familiarity of this task further

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lessened my fears to the point where
they seemed faintly ridiculous i had of

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course absolutely no idea what was
happening elsewhere on the boat

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When her husband came forward to chat to
me while I worked, I was even pleased

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that he was taking such a flirtatious
interest.

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I was beginning to think I'd been
totally wrong about him.

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What followed was a shock.

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Quickly followed by even greater shocks.

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There was, of course, only one thing we
could do after that.

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The other couple seemed amused at the
way things had gone.

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They told us that they'd planned it from
the start, that they'd done it before

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with many other couples, and couldn't
understand why our reaction should be

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different.

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Our married life was such that we felt
no need to indulge in such behaviour.

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I couldn't help thinking that they were
rather pathetic.

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There was something desperate in the way
they were searching for sexual

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excitement.

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something we had found with love in our
own marriage.

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But what of the many couples who, having
taken such a decision, lack the means to

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make entry into this guarded, furtive
and transient world?

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How do they fare on this ground so
filled with traps and pitfalls for the

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unwary? ...by these so-called friendly
magazines, magazines for finding

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friends, sex magazines, kinky magazines.

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00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,600
The kinkiness comes out of their
loneliness. What sort of people buy the

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magazine? Just look at it. Well, this
one, you know, the people that come

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through here, the people that buy this,
more or less, I've always thought that

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they were lonely people.

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Just lonely? I think so myself.

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Lonely, frustrated, and they're looking
for something that doesn't exist.

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00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:22,610
And they think they might find it in
there? Well, they hope to find it in

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here. Whether or not they do, of course,
is a debatable issue.

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How do they go about buying? Do they buy
them outright? Well, some of them are

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quite brazen. Others take their time.
Others sort of lay back until they've

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got no customers.

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And I try to be as helpful as possible
by taking their money as quickly as

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possible.

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That's a funny fellow.

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Yes, sir. What would you like?

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Thank you, sir.

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See what I mean? It's not a word. They
just come and they're gone and this,

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that and the other and they just carry
on.

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It's funny. It's lonely.

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He's hoping for a miracle.

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Joe, you're the editor of a contacts
magazine in which swinging couples

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advertise in order to contact other
swinging couples. Is that right?

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00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Well, what do you mean by swinging?

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I mean married couples disposed towards
wife swapping or sex parties, that kind

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of activity.

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No, no. You know, this is too broad.

428
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I look upon it as being more of a
friendship basis.

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Pen pals.

430
00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:26,050
Pen pals?

431
00:40:26,070 --> 00:40:29,690
Yeah. Well, some of the advertisements
do seem a little more than pen pals.

432
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:32,070
Well, I agree with that.

433
00:40:32,370 --> 00:40:35,190
Yes, I suppose I agree with that to a
certain extent.

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But, you know, I don't know what goes
on. You don't know what goes on.

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You don't know what's in the
advertisements that you pass on, then? I

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know nothing.

437
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I just pass them on as they are.

438
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You've no idea that the advertisements
are genuine or that the replies are

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genuine? No, as I say, one can hope that
they're genuine.

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But do you make any attempt to find out?

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I do the best I can.

442
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How many people do you employ?

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At the moment, it's just me. I run it
single-handed a lot.

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That doesn't leave me a lot of time to
go into complaints.

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I see.

446
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What are your relationships with the
police?

447
00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:12,690
Well, I hope they're all right.

448
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,840
But I do get some trouble now and again.
I mean, they come in here, and they just

449
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walk in here. They pick up everything
they can see, and they walk out again. I

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don't say a word.

451
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I don't even say good morning.

452
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Is this a lucrative business?

453
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Lucrative? No, it's a business. I get a
living. I'm not making fortunes.

454
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How did you get started in the business,
Joe?

455
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How did I get started?

456
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Well, I suppose, by 1953, I was in the
Merchant Navy.

457
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I left the Merchant Navy in 1953.

458
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I had a few friends around Soho.

459
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One of them offered me a job in a
bookshop.

460
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I was a chairman in one of these
bookshops. A chairman?

461
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What sort of job is a chairman in a
bookshop?

462
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,160
Well, at that time, it was more or less
like a front.

463
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The shop was signed in my name, and
they'd pay me so much a week, and if the

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shop got nicked, then I'd have to go up
the court, they'd pay the fine, and that

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was it, all over.

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And finally, you got nicked.

467
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Yeah, I got nicked, and I couldn't do it
anymore.

468
00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:20,340
Then for a time I worked as an assistant
in one of the bookshops, but I didn't

469
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like it. I don't like handling
pornographic gear.

470
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,480
Some of the ads you accept in your
magazine suggest that pornography is

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being offered for sale through your
magazine.

472
00:42:30,940 --> 00:42:35,180
Well, I may suggest, but suggest is one
thing and receiving is another, isn't

473
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it?

474
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You don't believe that those ads are
genuine?

475
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Let's put it this way, I hope they're
genuine.

476
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And if they're not, then I don't know
nothing about it.

477
00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:47,750
But you say you'll have nothing to do
with pornography yet. You hope that

478
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:50,410
those advertisements are offers of
genuine pornography.

479
00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:53,150
One can't be certain about these things.

480
00:42:54,130 --> 00:42:56,550
One runs a business to the best of one's
ability.

481
00:42:57,110 --> 00:42:59,670
You're having a little difficulty with
the law at the moment, aren't you?

482
00:43:00,390 --> 00:43:02,550
Yes, I'm having a little difficulty at
the moment.

483
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:04,250
I may be sent off for trial.

484
00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:08,530
At the moment, even my lawyer doesn't
think I've got a chance.

485
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:10,090
It's charming, isn't it?

486
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,020
I've got lawyers against you as well as
the law.

487
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,800
You've got no chance.

488
00:43:15,140 --> 00:43:16,140
Well, that's what he says.

489
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:17,460
Why do you think you're dead?

490
00:43:17,820 --> 00:43:18,820
I don't know.

491
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,920
I just don't know. You know, that's what
I joked about.

492
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Well, what is the charge?

493
00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:26,040
Obscenity. They've got me on an
obscenity charge.

494
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:28,140
Obscenity. I've looked through that.

495
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:29,340
What's obscene about it?

496
00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:32,740
Just ordinary small ads, you know. It's
just ordinary small ads.

497
00:43:32,980 --> 00:43:37,020
I can see some of your advertisements
here. For instance, lesbian mother with

498
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:38,020
lesbian daughter.

499
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,580
Also, both lovers wishes to exchange
letters on the subject of incest and

500
00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:44,360
unnatural relationships within the
family circle. I have another one here.

501
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:48,300
Young, long-legged, attractive wife
loves playing in school uniform. We are

502
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:51,140
keen exhibitionists and do it yourself.
I don't expect any medals for this.

503
00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:53,500
But you tell me this.

504
00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:57,580
What would these people do if they
didn't have this magazine to write to?

505
00:43:58,340 --> 00:44:01,960
I'd provide an outlet for them. If they
didn't have this outlet, anything could

506
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,960
happen.

507
00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:06,780
So, in fact, you consider you're
providing a social service?

508
00:44:07,260 --> 00:44:09,010
Yeah. A social service.

509
00:44:10,090 --> 00:44:11,630
A social service?

510
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:18,050
Possibly. But these introductions do not
always lead to the ideal meetings

511
00:44:18,050 --> 00:44:20,110
between two couples of similar
disposition.

512
00:44:20,730 --> 00:44:24,970
For some, consequences can be more
far-reaching.

513
00:44:32,110 --> 00:44:35,030
First of all, I'd like to thank you for
coming along to talk to us.

514
00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:36,390
That's all right.

515
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,280
You are, I believe, an enthusiastic
member of the wife-swapping set.

516
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:46,100
Well, I don't like the word
wife-swapping very much. I prefer to be

517
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:47,100
known as a swinger.

518
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,580
Oh, well, the swinging set. Yes.

519
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,680
I wonder if you'd like to tell us how
you first got into the swinging set.

520
00:44:54,200 --> 00:45:00,980
Well, there were these friends of ours,
you know, they sort of suggested

521
00:45:00,980 --> 00:45:03,440
we might like to go to a party.

522
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,340
Really? Friends directly to a party?

523
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:07,860
Yes. I see.

524
00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:10,940
And you went?

525
00:45:11,220 --> 00:45:16,820
Yes. They said we didn't have to join
in, but after we'd had a few drinks and

526
00:45:16,820 --> 00:45:23,740
that, it just sort of happened.
Everybody else was doing

527
00:45:23,740 --> 00:45:24,740
it.

528
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:26,960
And why did you go?

529
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,620
What motivated your first visit to a
party like this?

530
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:32,860
Well, things were...

531
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,240
you know getting a little bit tame after
you've been married a few years you know

532
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:41,320
and you know things have tamed down
quite a bit so really you went in search

533
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:48,220
of sexual excitement i suppose so yes
and how did you feel at the time i mean

534
00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:52,340
when you were making love with a strange
man a man other than your husband for

535
00:45:52,340 --> 00:45:57,660
the first time well i was a little bit
high but i kept looking around to see

536
00:45:57,660 --> 00:46:02,320
whether my husband was watching he
wasn't He was, well, I don't think he

537
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,200
was, anyway, he's occupied himself.

538
00:46:05,020 --> 00:46:06,020
I see.

539
00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:07,140
You know.

540
00:46:07,180 --> 00:46:10,560
So it never really occurred to you to
question his reaction?

541
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,120
Did you talk about it afterwards?

542
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:15,080
Yes, we did talk about it.

543
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:20,480
We found it quite stimulating, actually,
you know. Within your own marital sex

544
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,720
life? Yes, yes. I see.

545
00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:27,000
And you used the past tense earlier. Are
you still a member of the group?

546
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:28,500
No.

547
00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:30,180
I...

548
00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:34,920
thought, you know, some of the men at
the parties weren't all that marvelous

549
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,040
and you can't really turn down offers.
The first one that asked me was very

550
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,480
nice, you know, he's a very good looking
chap, but there's some sort of old ones

551
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,500
and I thought, well, while I was doing
it for nothing, I might as well take

552
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:48,500
money for it.

553
00:46:49,260 --> 00:46:50,780
And you did?

554
00:46:51,180 --> 00:46:52,260
Yes, yes.

555
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:53,580
And in fact you became a prostitute?

556
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,660
Well, I wouldn't call myself that.

557
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,280
It's just people that we know.

558
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,540
You know. People that you know?

559
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,800
Well, yes.

560
00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:04,160
Men that I've met, you know.

561
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,640
So, in fact, instead of now going to
parties, you charge to go to parties?

562
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,500
Um, yes, I suppose so.

563
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:15,220
I see.

564
00:47:15,740 --> 00:47:16,880
What does your husband do?

565
00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:19,420
Well, he was a motorman on the railway.

566
00:47:19,860 --> 00:47:21,460
I see. And what is he doing now?

567
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,340
Um, well, he's in prison at the moment,
you know.

568
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,560
In prison? Yes.

569
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:29,020
We got done.

570
00:47:29,930 --> 00:47:31,490
How long did he actually get?

571
00:47:31,770 --> 00:47:32,770
Six months.

572
00:47:33,350 --> 00:47:37,570
Well, it's quite a transition from being
an ordinary housewife into becoming a

573
00:47:37,570 --> 00:47:40,890
professional prostitute. How did you do
this? What made you do this?

574
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:45,890
Well, we've always spent more than we've
ever earned. We've always had money

575
00:47:45,890 --> 00:47:50,150
troubles and spent more than we've
earned. But we got into a terrible mess

576
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:55,270
financially at one point. We were behind
on rates and everything.

577
00:47:58,220 --> 00:48:02,440
I'd been talking the week before to a
woman who, you know, said, why didn't I

578
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,900
go to some of her parties?

579
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:11,240
The men there paid. They paid £20 a
time, and it seemed the solution at the

580
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:12,240
time, you know.

581
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,920
So this woman arranged professional
parties for men?

582
00:48:16,220 --> 00:48:20,300
Yes, yes. With the appearance of being
ordinary swinging parties?

583
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:21,920
Yes, that's right, yes.

584
00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:23,380
But the men played? Yes.

585
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,000
And by this means you...

586
00:48:25,210 --> 00:48:28,590
in fact, solved your financial crisis?
Yes, well, she introduced me to several

587
00:48:28,590 --> 00:48:33,250
of her friends, and, you know, they've
become good clients.

588
00:48:35,410 --> 00:48:38,810
Now you have this steady clientele. Yes,
yes.

589
00:48:39,050 --> 00:48:40,970
They all seem very satisfied, you know.

590
00:48:41,310 --> 00:48:43,730
I must say, you seem quite satisfied
with your life.

591
00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:46,610
Oh, yes. You know, it has many
interesting sides.

592
00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:53,290
Occasionally I try to find people on my
own, sometimes with a few mistakes. I

593
00:48:53,290 --> 00:48:59,910
made one mistake, I... found a young boy
and um he wanted to beat me it was

594
00:48:59,910 --> 00:49:05,330
rather funny you know nothing else just
beat me and i don't think he wanted to

595
00:49:05,330 --> 00:49:10,370
pay me he didn't want to play no no but
you made it quite clear you were now a

596
00:49:10,370 --> 00:49:15,990
professional yes and if he had paid you
oh yes that would be all right yes that

597
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:20,630
would be all right yes so in fact
anything goes in your world now oh yes

598
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:24,490
yes i've learned quite a few things I
see, including the visiting times at the

599
00:49:24,490 --> 00:49:25,490
prison.

600
00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:27,450
Yes, unfortunately.

601
00:49:28,690 --> 00:49:32,150
What will your husband do when he comes
out of prison?

602
00:49:33,370 --> 00:49:37,850
Well, I think he will find some kind of
job.

603
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:40,210
In fact, he'll be more careful?

604
00:49:40,450 --> 00:49:43,930
Definitely more careful, but I don't
think he'll work all that hard. Maybe

605
00:49:43,930 --> 00:49:48,090
he'll be a professional photographer or
something like that, you know, where,

606
00:49:48,210 --> 00:49:50,830
you know, he has some kind of front job.

607
00:49:51,770 --> 00:49:55,770
Just a front? Yes, just a front. So you
fully intend to continue? Oh, yes, yes.

608
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:58,890
It'd be silly not to, wouldn't it? No
income tax.

609
00:49:59,590 --> 00:50:00,590
You don't pay tax?

610
00:50:00,830 --> 00:50:01,830
Oh, no.

611
00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:03,450
All tax-free? Yes.

612
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:06,430
You seem very content and happy.

613
00:50:07,090 --> 00:50:08,090
Well, no.

614
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:10,910
No, not really. I mean, I haven't got my
husband, have I?

615
00:50:11,650 --> 00:50:13,850
No. But much else, it seems.

616
00:50:14,090 --> 00:50:19,210
Yes. Would it be fair to say that you
became...

617
00:50:20,340 --> 00:50:26,080
a call girl, and your husband has a
criminal record because of the swinging

618
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,060
sex? Oh, definitely, yes. I didn't
realise people paid that much to have

619
00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:34,360
sex with someone anyway, and I wouldn't
have dreamt of, you know, going around

620
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,960
finding someone to have sex with.

621
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:43,920
Unless the currency of marital sex had
been defaced by the swinging sex. Oh,

622
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,920
yes, definitely.

623
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,780
Yes, I wouldn't have done it.

624
00:50:47,850 --> 00:50:49,750
Thank you very much indeed for talking
to us.

625
00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:55,790
I suspect this woman is much less secure
than she pretends to be. But how

626
00:50:55,790 --> 00:51:00,170
difficult it is to comment on someone
without knowing her or her husband's

627
00:51:00,170 --> 00:51:05,270
circumstances. However, it would seem to
me that her husband's personality is

628
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:09,090
more directly responsible for the
woman's position than she realizes.

629
00:51:09,830 --> 00:51:11,030
But of course...

630
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,760
Any woman can become a prostitute. In
fact, in many women there is a latent

631
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,560
envy of their more commercial
sisterhood.

632
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:25,600
From what the woman says, I judge that
they were quite an ordinary couple

633
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,980
before their contact with wife-swappers.

634
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,460
Normal in the sense that they recognized
certain moral boundaries.

635
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:40,460
But what is obvious here is that the
couple's wife-swapping has pushed those

636
00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:45,880
boundaries to a point where their moral
senses can now encompass prostitution

637
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,460
without a feeling of guilt.

638
00:51:48,620 --> 00:51:52,160
But it is quite probably more the
husband's personality which is the

639
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:58,960
governing factor, a certain weakness,
giving up, giving in to the lure of

640
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,040
luxury, the ease of life.

641
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:07,400
I judge the woman to be complacently
compliant in a more

642
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,720
sensitive or complicated character, this
attitude to life would have ended in

643
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:13,720
disaster.

644
00:52:14,140 --> 00:52:15,140
Utter disaster.

645
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:22,120
To feed the ever-deadening senses of the
wife-swappers requires new faces, new

646
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,120
excitements.

647
00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:25,520
It can be a dangerous game.

648
00:52:25,780 --> 00:52:29,100
But danger to many is synonymous with
excitement.

649
00:52:29,540 --> 00:52:33,940
And the jaded palate will go to
extraordinary lengths to engender it.

650
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,680
This has given rise to an extension of
the... wife-swapping groups, the Thrill

651
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:40,680
Club.

652
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:44,820
We're in a London discotheque.

653
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,240
At this moment, not even our camera crew
knew what was to happen here.

654
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,920
We'd waited many hours at similar
rendezvous when nothing apparently had

655
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,920
occurred.

656
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:59,300
All we know at this moment is that
something connected with two couples at

657
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:01,000
this table is supposed to happen.

658
00:53:02,380 --> 00:53:07,770
This young wife, as a sealed envelope,
But absolutely no idea what's inside,

659
00:53:08,010 --> 00:53:10,330
except that it contains instructions.

660
00:53:11,650 --> 00:53:12,650
Sealed orders?

661
00:53:13,050 --> 00:53:14,550
That's exactly what they are.

662
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:17,930
Orders to be opened at 10 p.m. and acted
upon.

663
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:21,750
These are the rules of their particular
thrill club.

664
00:53:30,930 --> 00:53:32,350
The envelope is opened.

665
00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:41,500
This couple are members of a
thrill-seeking dare club, constituted

666
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:45,620
with the express purpose of seeing who
dare be the perpetrator of the most

667
00:53:45,620 --> 00:53:49,980
outrageous conduct, preferably, as here,
in a public place.

668
00:54:56,940 --> 00:54:58,980
The young wife carries out her orders.

669
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,840
But such is the progress of the
permissive society that such an

670
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,340
exhibition as this can occur with hardly
more than a ripple of interest.

671
00:55:08,220 --> 00:55:12,860
Where once an outraged management might
have demanded indignantly that this girl

672
00:55:12,860 --> 00:55:16,720
leave at once, she now dances on
undisturbed.

673
00:55:18,220 --> 00:55:23,640
She may feel a sense of disappointment
and perhaps the need next time for a

674
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,980
more outrageous dare.

675
00:55:25,470 --> 00:55:27,230
a more lascivious challenge.

676
00:55:49,050 --> 00:55:53,850
An outlet for an exhibitionist streak is
one thing, possibly even therapeutic.

677
00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:58,990
But the search for greater, more
dangerous stimulants may uncover such

678
00:55:58,990 --> 00:56:03,330
latent tendencies or even foster new
ones as to become dangerous.

679
00:56:07,250 --> 00:56:12,990
This thrill club, or dare club as they
call themselves, has quite obvious

680
00:56:12,990 --> 00:56:14,990
sadomasochistic overtones.

681
00:56:15,690 --> 00:56:22,090
The escalating nature of masochistic
demands is well known and can

682
00:56:22,090 --> 00:56:27,800
get... totally out of control, to the
point where the victim, the masochist,

683
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,960
is reduced to punitive pulp.

684
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:36,780
For a husband and wife to embark on such
an adventure, they would require a deep

685
00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:43,220
-seated need for such an activity, as I
believe the next sequence will

686
00:56:43,220 --> 00:56:44,220
illustrate.

687
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:51,900
This is the young lady that we first saw
on the bridge in the opening sequence.

688
00:56:52,740 --> 00:56:58,160
She waited on the bridge till she was
kidnapped and taken to a moored boat to

689
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,160
which she swam.

690
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:04,140
Now, what is important to know is how
she came to be on the bridge.

691
00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:07,600
And more important, why?

692
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,980
I was alone in the house when the
telephone rang.

693
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,020
My husband, who's a member of the same
thrill club, was quite prepared for me

694
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:18,000
to have adventures outside of our own
marriage.

695
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,100
He, of course, in return, had many
adventures with other members' wives.

696
00:57:22,860 --> 00:57:25,320
Hello? Hello, Marion.

697
00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:27,520
Are you alone?

698
00:57:28,420 --> 00:57:29,420
Yes.

699
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,140
Speak my name, Marion.

700
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:34,500
Master.

701
00:57:35,340 --> 00:57:40,180
Now, I want you to put down the
telephone and move closer to the window.

702
00:57:41,780 --> 00:57:42,940
Do you understand?

703
00:57:44,660 --> 00:57:45,660
Yes.

704
00:58:14,410 --> 00:58:15,690
What are you wearing, Marion?

705
00:58:16,890 --> 00:58:17,890
Housecoat.

706
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:20,290
Take it off, Marion.

707
00:58:21,970 --> 00:58:22,970
Yes.

708
00:58:29,390 --> 00:58:33,030
Now we have a little fun thing for you
to do, Marion.

709
00:58:33,370 --> 00:58:34,790
Can you hear me?

710
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:36,190
Yes.

711
00:58:37,590 --> 00:58:42,990
You are to go to Westminster Bridge and
wait on the centre span.

712
00:58:43,710 --> 00:58:44,950
Where you will be collected.

713
00:58:45,490 --> 00:58:49,930
Your wardrobe will be one raincoat and a
pair of shoes.

714
00:58:50,590 --> 00:58:51,590
Nothing else.

715
00:58:51,970 --> 00:58:53,750
Have you understood that?

716
00:58:54,530 --> 00:58:56,090
Repeat your instructions.

717
00:58:57,050 --> 00:59:02,610
I must go to Westminster Bridge, wearing
just a raincoat and a pair of shoes,

718
00:59:02,830 --> 00:59:05,170
and wait till I'm collected.

719
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:08,330
Very good, Marion.

720
00:59:09,050 --> 00:59:12,350
All this will happen in two hours' time.

721
00:59:13,610 --> 00:59:17,530
You will leave a note for your husband
that you will not be home tonight.

722
00:59:44,910 --> 00:59:49,050
This young wife has accepted a
commitment which the self-imposed rules

723
00:59:49,050 --> 00:59:50,230
say she cannot refuse.

724
00:59:51,310 --> 00:59:53,130
She is motivated by guilt.

725
00:59:53,830 --> 00:59:55,550
Guilt towards the sex act.

726
00:59:56,130 --> 00:59:59,510
She is inhibited to a degree where she
must pretend that she has no

727
00:59:59,510 --> 01:00:01,190
responsibility for what she does.

728
01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:06,810
She is able to enjoy sex without guilt
only because she is doing what they tell

729
01:00:06,810 --> 01:00:07,729
her to do.

730
01:00:07,730 --> 01:00:10,810
It's not her she can claim, but them.

731
01:00:12,110 --> 01:00:15,210
In allowing herself to be so used, she
plays with fire.

732
01:00:15,650 --> 01:00:19,730
In the name of thrill-seeking, she plays
a highly dangerous game.

733
01:00:20,250 --> 01:00:25,470
She is feeding the fantasies of others,
fantasies of power and control, which,

734
01:00:25,570 --> 01:00:29,570
if allowed to escalate, can end in
tragedy, because the logical terminal

735
01:00:29,570 --> 01:00:34,910
aim of all sadomasochistic relationships
is the seeking of total destruction.

736
01:00:58,890 --> 01:01:01,770
This young wife eventually learned a
bitter lesson.

737
01:01:02,170 --> 01:01:05,730
To gamble with emotion is to hazard
sanity.

738
01:01:06,650 --> 01:01:11,250
After several adventures similar to this
reconstruction, she suffered a total

739
01:01:11,250 --> 01:01:14,710
nervous collapse, necessitating
prolonged hospitalization.

740
01:01:15,850 --> 01:01:20,570
Today, she considers that this collapse
saved her from an escalating round of

741
01:01:20,570 --> 01:01:23,870
activity from which she may never have
retrieved her sanity.

742
01:01:28,940 --> 01:01:33,280
It is surely appropriate that the most
popular of sex party games should be

743
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,320
those that originated in the nursery.

744
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,600
There are many variations on these
games, and here we see two couples

745
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,360
who've come together in order to indulge
a taste for blind man's buff.

746
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,840
Blind man's buff with additional adult
interest.

747
01:01:53,660 --> 01:01:57,930
These two couples came together through
an advertisement in one of the many

748
01:01:57,930 --> 01:01:59,030
introduction magazines.

749
01:01:59,890 --> 01:02:04,830
They have nothing in common except an
interest in promiscuous sexual activity.

750
01:02:05,590 --> 01:02:10,750
Yet both feel the need of the
ritualistic opening gambit, a desire for

751
01:02:10,750 --> 01:02:16,410
costume, or, as in this case, blindfolds
to distance themselves from normality.

752
01:02:17,450 --> 01:02:21,030
Or is it, in this specific case, merely
ritual?

753
01:02:21,890 --> 01:02:26,760
Perhaps there is, on one side at least,
a more practical reason for the

754
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:27,760
blindfolds.

755
01:02:29,420 --> 01:02:33,900
One of these couples, so
enthusiastically playing this game, is

756
01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:35,740
much blinder than the other.

757
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,740
The cables snake towards another room,
an even darker room.

758
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,660
At this man's fingertips is a closed
circuit television recorder.

759
01:03:11,460 --> 01:03:16,400
Every move made in the other room is
being monitored and recorded, while

760
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:21,340
every possible distraction is created to
prevent one of the couples noticing the

761
01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:25,620
squat, unblinking eye of the television
camera that observes them with such

762
01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:28,040
clarity and objectivity.

763
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,640
The light level necessary for closed
circuit television recording is much

764
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:39,000
less than that required for the more
traditional tool of the blackmailer, the

765
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,300
conventional film camera.

766
01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:46,660
Technological progress helps everyone,
even blackmailers.

767
01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:50,960
This was our first meeting with this
young couple, although we had come to

768
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,120
know them well by correspondence.

769
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,080
Our previous experience of this kind of
thing had been very limited.

770
01:03:59,020 --> 01:04:01,960
It was important that the meeting was at
their apartment.

771
01:04:02,740 --> 01:04:05,480
There were reasons why we couldn't have
them to our own home.

772
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:12,760
One night, they unexpectedly rang us and
insisted that we come round at once.

773
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:18,000
It wasn't very convenient, but they were
so insistent that we finally agreed to

774
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,000
go.

775
01:04:20,980 --> 01:04:25,840
When we arrived, we found a man we had
never seen before, a complete stranger.

776
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,540
My husband pointed out that we weren't
anxious to meet new people and asked who

777
01:04:31,540 --> 01:04:32,540
he was.

778
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:34,660
Our host was evasive.

779
01:04:35,660 --> 01:04:41,200
The man himself was offhand and left us
to set up something, as he said.

780
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:48,100
We sensed there was something very wrong
with this evening, especially when we

781
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:49,260
were invited to watch television.

782
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,660
By this time we were prepared for almost
anything.

783
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,380
except what we actually saw.

784
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,660
It was quite the most horrifying
experience of my life.

785
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,680
The fact that it was on television made
it seem even worse.

786
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:17,220
I had a somewhat irrational fear that it
was being transmitted publicly, and I

787
01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:19,460
sat wishing the ground would open up and
swallow me.

788
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,820
Naturally, it was blackmail.

789
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,340
We had originally met this couple
through an advertisement in a magazine.

790
01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:36,370
We'd taken them at face value.

791
01:05:36,930 --> 01:05:38,510
An expensive mistake.

792
01:05:39,850 --> 01:05:40,910
We had to pay.

793
01:05:41,710 --> 01:05:45,970
More and then more, until finally it
reached the point where we were forced

794
01:05:45,970 --> 01:05:46,970
to move.

795
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:56,630
It cost us our home, many good friends,
a great deal of money, and set my

796
01:05:56,630 --> 01:05:58,390
husband's career back several years.

797
01:06:00,350 --> 01:06:02,930
It was our first experience of the
swinging set.

798
01:06:03,450 --> 01:06:05,370
and will most definitely be our last.

799
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:11,590
We just hadn't realised we were getting
involved with that sort of person.

800
01:06:12,530 --> 01:06:17,990
The phrase, that sort of person,
interests me. I wonder if the woman were

801
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:22,090
able to look more objectively at
herself, would she realise that to the

802
01:06:22,090 --> 01:06:26,430
majority of people, she herself is that
sort of person?

803
01:06:27,850 --> 01:06:31,310
Retribution came to them in quite a
direct fashion.

804
01:06:32,090 --> 01:06:36,670
But you know, in this kind of activity,
retribution is inevitable.

805
01:06:36,910 --> 01:06:38,830
It may come in many forms.

806
01:06:39,230 --> 01:06:43,930
There are always dangers inherent in any
form of promiscuous activity.

807
01:06:44,430 --> 01:06:50,150
The horrors of venereal disease,
pregnancies of uncertain paternity.

808
01:06:50,470 --> 01:06:52,310
Yes, even in the age of the pill.

809
01:06:52,830 --> 01:06:58,590
And the most likely source of
retribution is

810
01:06:58,590 --> 01:07:00,870
the children of the marriage.

811
01:07:02,350 --> 01:07:06,290
There are three requisites for the happy
maturation of a child.

812
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:11,610
That it knows that it is loved by its
mother, that it knows that it is loved

813
01:07:11,610 --> 01:07:12,610
by its father.

814
01:07:12,990 --> 01:07:19,010
And finally, and this is not always
appreciated, that the parents love each

815
01:07:19,010 --> 01:07:20,010
other.

816
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:27,270
The children of swinging couples will
inevitably find out by intuition of

817
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:28,270
nothing else.

818
01:07:28,330 --> 01:07:32,890
Children are not so blind or insensitive
as their parents would like them to be.

819
01:07:33,290 --> 01:07:38,350
This will inevitably give rise to
confusions and insecurities in the

820
01:07:38,350 --> 01:07:44,590
children, creating an emotional backwash
that will affect, if not

821
01:07:44,590 --> 01:07:48,650
destroy, the fundamental relationship.

822
01:07:49,770 --> 01:07:52,910
There are, of course, couples who say
they don't want children either

823
01:07:52,910 --> 01:07:55,990
presently or ever. They may reach
disagreement.

824
01:07:56,970 --> 01:08:03,330
early in the marriage, but it is seldom
that the paternal or maternal

825
01:08:03,330 --> 01:08:06,510
instinct is completely suppressed.

826
01:08:07,230 --> 01:08:12,050
More often than not, it is the wife who,
knowing that her childbearing days are

827
01:08:12,050 --> 01:08:17,850
strictly limited, will be the first to
change her mind about having a family.

828
01:08:19,609 --> 01:08:25,729
And should the husband find this
fulfillment inconvenient with its

829
01:08:26,170 --> 01:08:32,229
need to curtail their group activities,
then that marriage is headed for

830
01:08:32,229 --> 01:08:33,229
disaster.

831
01:08:33,609 --> 01:08:39,950
No relationship is so resilient as to
withstand the pressures that will build

832
01:08:39,950 --> 01:08:44,910
inside a wife faced with such an
insensitive partner.

833
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,819
Chia? Hello, darling. I'll be a minute.

834
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:30,060
Hello, darling. Hi.

835
01:09:31,540 --> 01:09:32,819
And I thought you'd forgotten.

836
01:09:34,060 --> 01:09:35,640
Forgotten? Our wedding anniversary.

837
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:38,720
Oh, God.

838
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,439
It went com... Completely out of my
mind.

839
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,680
So that's what all this was in aid of.

840
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:49,899
Our ninth, too.

841
01:09:50,740 --> 01:09:54,600
Tenth? I thought we were just going to
have a quiet dinner, just the two of us.

842
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,800
But how can we?

843
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,200
It's our turn.

844
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,280
Last Friday in the month, it's our turn
to be hosts.

845
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,300
We can't let everybody die, not tonight.

846
01:10:06,820 --> 01:10:08,280
Jimmy and Carol are coming.

847
01:10:10,020 --> 01:10:14,690
Look. I tell you what, we have our
celebration tomorrow night.

848
01:10:15,130 --> 01:10:16,130
Promise.

849
01:10:17,630 --> 01:10:21,310
But tonight... The circus is coming to
town.

850
01:10:22,910 --> 01:10:23,910
Circus?

851
01:10:24,890 --> 01:10:26,770
Yes, our private sex circus.

852
01:10:27,010 --> 01:10:28,110
That's what it's become, Cliff.

853
01:10:28,610 --> 01:10:29,970
Don't be silly, darling.

854
01:10:30,370 --> 01:10:32,370
It just happens to be our turn, that's
all.

855
01:10:32,930 --> 01:10:34,430
Now, look at this.

856
01:10:34,810 --> 01:10:36,410
Carol will be mad for this.

857
01:10:36,650 --> 01:10:37,670
To hell with Carol!

858
01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:40,960
Look, darling, don't start spoiling
things. Just when we've got a great

859
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,020
little group together and everything's
starting to be fun... Fun?

860
01:10:44,620 --> 01:10:47,660
It strikes me that without an audience
we wouldn't even have a sex life.

861
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,940
But look, I got this specially for you
and Carol.

862
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,400
I changed my mind.

863
01:10:54,580 --> 01:10:55,580
Why?

864
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:58,560
I'm not a lesbian.

865
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,200
Lesbian?

866
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,520
Two girls fooling around?

867
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:06,060
I suppose I wanted to see you and Jimmy
fooling around.

868
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,059
I'm not.

869
01:11:08,060 --> 01:11:09,900
Queer? Neither am I.

870
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,220
Well, it's different for men.

871
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,360
That's a sweet old-fashioned double
standard. You can't let everybody down.

872
01:11:15,660 --> 01:11:16,660
Not tonight.

873
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,440
The show must go on.

874
01:11:18,700 --> 01:11:19,980
Mustn't let the side down.

875
01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:21,800
Not in front of my friends, darling.

876
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:25,460
I've heard all that blackmail before,
Cliff. I've heard it till I'm sick of

877
01:11:25,460 --> 01:11:28,500
it. Well, tonight the performing bear
takes a night off.

878
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,100
The show is cancelled.

879
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:31,640
Got it?

880
01:11:31,940 --> 01:11:32,940
Happy anniversary.

881
01:12:06,370 --> 01:12:09,090
There was a sudden silence in my mind.

882
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:14,430
I looked around at all those faces I
knew so well.

883
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:19,010
They were all strangers.

884
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:28,230
Every gesture, every smile seemed laden
with inexpressible obscenity.

885
01:12:31,170 --> 01:12:33,590
Then I realized that I was the stranger.

886
01:12:36,590 --> 01:12:38,130
I prayed Carol wouldn't come.

887
01:12:40,510 --> 01:12:43,590
That I might be spared this final
humiliation.

888
01:12:43,970 --> 01:12:45,010
I wonder where Carol is.

889
01:12:46,090 --> 01:12:47,230
She isn't here yet.

890
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:50,610
It's a shame to disappoint everyone.

891
01:12:51,610 --> 01:12:52,990
Do you think I should give her a ring?

892
01:12:53,950 --> 01:12:55,070
I shouldn't bother.

893
01:12:57,330 --> 01:12:58,710
Well, I hope nothing's happened.

894
01:13:00,990 --> 01:13:02,890
No, I think I will give her a ring.

895
01:13:47,580 --> 01:13:48,580
She made it.

896
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,000
I'll get you a drink, all right? Scotch,
all right? Yes.

897
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,600
I love the dress, darling. I can hardly
contain myself.

898
01:13:58,900 --> 01:13:59,900
Try getting canned.

899
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,260
Try and look as if you were enjoying
yourself.

900
01:14:04,780 --> 01:14:06,060
I'm not, so why should I?

901
01:14:08,740 --> 01:14:09,740
Here you are, darling.

902
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,980
What time does the show start?

903
01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:16,880
Come on, Sheila. It's up to you. You're
the hostess.

904
01:14:17,150 --> 01:14:18,170
Okay, circus lovers.

905
01:14:18,490 --> 01:14:19,490
You'll get it.

906
01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:20,930
Set the lighting, darling.

907
01:15:53,130 --> 01:15:54,530
Put your hands on your head, darling.

908
01:16:49,970 --> 01:16:51,950
Sheila, place her towards us.

909
01:16:55,190 --> 01:16:56,190
Animals.

910
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:59,090
Animals, all of you.

911
01:16:59,810 --> 01:17:02,630
Pawing, scratching, tearing each other
to pieces.

912
01:17:05,090 --> 01:17:07,290
You've taken the act of love and dirtied
it.

913
01:17:08,890 --> 01:17:12,130
You've taken a private moment and made
it a public spectacle.

914
01:17:15,610 --> 01:17:17,970
You've taken something precious and
meaningful.

915
01:17:18,650 --> 01:17:20,010
and made it obscene.

916
01:17:21,230 --> 01:17:24,310
But I'm tired of my house being used as
your farmyard.

917
01:17:25,050 --> 01:17:29,370
And I'm tired of seeing myself and my
friends used as bills of exchange.

918
01:17:31,530 --> 01:17:35,490
And I'm sick, sick, sick of the lot of
you.

919
01:17:35,770 --> 01:17:37,010
And you can get out.

920
01:17:38,230 --> 01:17:39,230
Out.

921
01:17:39,450 --> 01:17:41,310
Go and foul somebody else's nest.

922
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:42,858
Now, wait.

923
01:17:42,860 --> 01:17:47,180
This is my house, too. These are my
friends. They didn't ask for this. Oh,

924
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:48,740
thanks, Madeline. Tell them. No.

925
01:17:49,060 --> 01:17:50,920
Let me give them what they did ask for,
then.

926
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,120
Get out. Don't follow somebody else's
nest. Get out! Get out! Get out of my

927
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,120
house!

928
01:18:08,020 --> 01:18:09,020
They've gone.

929
01:18:09,700 --> 01:18:10,700
Good.

930
01:18:16,330 --> 01:18:18,550
You've effectively lost us most of our
friends.

931
01:18:19,490 --> 01:18:20,630
I suppose you know that.

932
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:24,630
What was it you called them?

933
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:26,510
Farmyard animals?

934
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:30,010
Well, you behaved exactly like one.

935
01:18:31,450 --> 01:18:34,070
Did you have to make your demonstration
so public?

936
01:18:35,190 --> 01:18:37,770
Did you have to make it in front of all
our friends?

937
01:18:39,230 --> 01:18:40,930
I've tried to talk to you alone.

938
01:18:41,450 --> 01:18:42,810
Time after time.

939
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:44,570
You wouldn't listen.

940
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:50,100
I'm listening now.

941
01:18:50,460 --> 01:18:51,500
I've said enough.

942
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,260
To them, maybe, but not to me.

943
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:54,680
Well, what was it?

944
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,120
Pride?

945
01:18:56,380 --> 01:18:59,260
Jealousy? Or just plain
bloody-mindedness?

946
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,680
I'm just tired of being pushed.

947
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,480
Pushed? Well, I seem to remember that it
was you who said that sex could be a

948
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:10,920
recreation as long as we had each other.

949
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:13,760
Loved each other.

950
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,620
I didn't know that had changed.

951
01:19:17,150 --> 01:19:18,650
You don't love me anymore, Cliff.

952
01:19:18,910 --> 01:19:20,550
You just like what I do.

953
01:19:20,830 --> 01:19:23,730
Oh, look, we did nothing that we hadn't
agreed on.

954
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:29,010
Well, tonight, perhaps, but that was
because it was arranged, expected, had

955
01:19:29,010 --> 01:19:30,990
been for weeks, and you knew that.

956
01:19:35,730 --> 01:19:37,890
Apart from that, it was fair exchange.

957
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:41,130
But it's not a fair exchange, Cliff. It
can't be.

958
01:19:42,050 --> 01:19:44,650
Between a man and a woman, sex has a
different meaning.

959
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,400
All a man has to consider is if a woman
is attractive enough.

960
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,960
But a woman must ask herself if she'd
want the man's child.

961
01:19:53,660 --> 01:19:56,160
Oh, for God's sake, what are you
suddenly?

962
01:19:56,380 --> 01:19:57,560
A nest builder?

963
01:19:58,340 --> 01:20:01,400
This is the day of the free, swinging,
permissive woman.

964
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,460
She doesn't exist and never did.

965
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,020
All women got was the vote and the pill.

966
01:20:07,540 --> 01:20:08,840
Thanks very much.

967
01:20:10,140 --> 01:20:11,620
That's not evolution, Cliff.

968
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,400
It changed the way they lived, not the
way they are.

969
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:15,840
And is that what you want?

970
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:18,360
Is that all any woman wants from life?

971
01:20:18,980 --> 01:20:21,980
Emotional security for happy
pregnancies?

972
01:20:22,460 --> 01:20:24,340
It isn't what she wants, it's what she
is.

973
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,860
A woman isn't a sex machine.

974
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,360
She's a child bearer.

975
01:20:29,620 --> 01:20:31,220
It's the fact of life.

976
01:20:31,980 --> 01:20:36,280
And until you understand that about
women, you'll understand nothing.

977
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,160
And what about the other women there
tonight?

978
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,680
What makes you different?

979
01:20:40,140 --> 01:20:41,180
There's no difference.

980
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,000
I just spoke the truth tonight, Cliff.

981
01:20:44,510 --> 01:20:46,710
And there wasn't a woman there who would
deny it.

982
01:20:47,570 --> 01:20:53,550
And if you can't see that, or don't want
to, then there's nothing left.

983
01:20:54,170 --> 01:20:56,370
What does that mean, for God's sake?

984
01:20:56,670 --> 01:20:58,090
It means you can divorce me.

985
01:21:00,510 --> 01:21:02,130
God knows you've enough grounds.

986
01:21:09,330 --> 01:21:11,950
And so we have come full circle.

987
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:18,600
We saw the young couple at the beginning
and their introduction to wife-swapping.

988
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:25,560
We followed other cases illustrating the
propensity for escalation and

989
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:30,780
the final crushing effect such activity
will have on marriage.

990
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:39,560
In this particular case, Cliff is a
manifestly narcissistic and

991
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:45,440
indulgent He won't take the
responsibility or make the sacrifice

992
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:47,080
involved in having children.

993
01:21:47,500 --> 01:21:54,500
The need for greater and greater sexual
license will propel him along the

994
01:21:54,500 --> 01:22:01,320
road of escalation and he will not
hesitate to divorce Sheila to

995
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:02,400
attain those ends.

996
01:22:04,260 --> 01:22:10,620
Sheila, persuaded into swinging by Cliff
and...

997
01:22:11,070 --> 01:22:17,090
in the expectation of some mysterious or
temporary thrill and excitement, became

998
01:22:17,090 --> 01:22:24,030
more and more disillusioned and trapped,
until eventually she realized

999
01:22:24,030 --> 01:22:30,730
that artificially induced lust is not an
adequate substitute

1000
01:22:30,730 --> 01:22:32,670
for real love.

1001
01:22:33,610 --> 01:22:38,850
It dawned on her too late that her
husband's standards were as superficial.

1002
01:22:39,660 --> 01:22:40,660
as the rest of the group.

1003
01:22:43,540 --> 01:22:49,880
Within these groups, innovations have to
be devised repeatedly to

1004
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,160
satisfy the craving for new sexual
adventures.

1005
01:22:55,020 --> 01:23:01,140
Erotic stimulation increases
surreptitiously, but it must reach the

1006
01:23:01,140 --> 01:23:03,420
summit and become boring.

1007
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:10,420
The participants will then have to look
for more florid sexual extravaganza

1008
01:23:10,420 --> 01:23:16,240
somewhere else, or retire finally into
their own exclusive marital

1009
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:17,240
relationships.

1010
01:23:19,340 --> 01:23:25,220
All of these sexual adventures are
searching for something, unconsciously

1011
01:23:25,220 --> 01:23:31,760
searching for something they have lost,
or perhaps, and this is the tragedy,

1012
01:23:32,020 --> 01:23:38,420
something they have never found, a
secure emotional

1013
01:23:38,420 --> 01:23:39,420
relationship.

1014
01:23:41,060 --> 01:23:47,300
To seek such a relationship within group
sex activity

1015
01:23:47,300 --> 01:23:51,080
is to bet on a three-legged horse.

1016
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:57,460
Any number of couples can participate in
this new permissive novelty.

1017
01:23:58,180 --> 01:24:03,780
But the game they play is a game of
escalating risk and ever diminishing

1018
01:24:03,780 --> 01:24:04,780
return.

1019
01:24:05,770 --> 01:24:11,350
They will stake everything in a game
where the winners gain nothing and the

1020
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:13,270
losers lose all.

1021
01:24:35,829 --> 01:24:40,630
Tomorrow Have you known

1022
01:24:40,630 --> 01:24:47,630
What you know now Would

1023
01:24:47,630 --> 01:24:52,370
you still choose this way And play the
game

1024
01:24:52,370 --> 01:24:58,230
That had no name to you but sorrow

1025
01:24:58,230 --> 01:25:03,830
You learned to borrow

1026
01:25:06,020 --> 01:25:12,340
Give it back now. It's your turn to play
and joke up to the pack.

1027
01:25:13,480 --> 01:25:17,660
Don't turn around. I'm sure you found
you justified.

1028
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:25,400
The reason you stand looking down,
watching light twist by.

1029
01:25:25,780 --> 01:25:30,300
You're alone as you wait to meet.

1030
01:25:33,140 --> 01:25:34,140
Whatever.

1031
01:25:34,860 --> 01:25:41,580
you pay for yesterday don't

1032
01:25:41,580 --> 01:25:46,240
think of tomorrow you know

1033
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:52,680
if in the end time

1034
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:58,380
has shown it's really like they say

1035
01:25:58,380 --> 01:26:04,120
to keep the love you have

1036
01:26:09,870 --> 01:26:12,670
tomorrow tomorrow