1 00:00:01,309 --> 00:00:07,150 Hello, I'm calling from the trip. I'd like to confirm a call. How much money 2 00:00:07,150 --> 00:00:08,770 involved? Was it over a thousand dollars? 3 00:00:09,330 --> 00:00:10,330 Was it over ten? 4 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:11,390 No. 5 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:12,950 She had every symptom of an ectopic pregnancy. 6 00:01:13,330 --> 00:01:14,330 It's tricky stuff. 7 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:16,010 Yeah. Oh, what I was worried about. 8 00:01:22,570 --> 00:01:24,090 Ah, never up, never in. 9 00:01:24,670 --> 00:01:27,770 Well, you know, she's only 16 years old, so what do I say to her mother? 10 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:29,490 Much less her father. 11 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:40,390 Well, if I don't go in and it's an ectopic, you know, she could bleed to 12 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,340 If I do go in and it's just a neurotic girl with functional cramps, well, you 13 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:46,880 know, our family hasn't got to be happy. Hey, John, this is your specialty. 14 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,140 You know, you're going to appreciate this. Her red count is dropping, so we 15 00:01:50,140 --> 00:01:52,140 in. And you know the screwiest thing? 16 00:01:52,660 --> 00:01:56,940 No ectopic. It's just a ruptured ovarian cyst. Meanwhile, I'm the one with high 17 00:01:56,940 --> 00:01:58,020 blood pressure. Excuse me. 18 00:01:58,580 --> 00:01:59,820 Are you Dr. Eastwick? 19 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,020 Dr. John Eastwick? Yes. 20 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,520 It's very hard to get hold of you, doctor. That's why I had to find you 21 00:02:06,140 --> 00:02:07,900 My name is Jessica Downey. 22 00:02:08,410 --> 00:02:10,750 You don't know me, but you treated my mother, Nancy. 23 00:02:11,850 --> 00:02:13,250 Oh, yes, Jessica. 24 00:02:13,490 --> 00:02:16,970 Well, I'm pleased to meet you. In fact, you delivered me. 25 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:20,650 Well, I'm delighted that things turned out so well. 26 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:22,290 How is your mother? 27 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:24,250 Oh, she's fine, doctor. 28 00:02:25,410 --> 00:02:26,610 I'm the one who's sick. 29 00:02:28,010 --> 00:02:31,090 I have cancer because of you. 30 00:02:32,870 --> 00:02:33,930 Because of you. 31 00:02:50,980 --> 00:02:54,640 Kelsey, do you mind? This is personal. What is it? 32 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:56,040 It's a shopping list. 33 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,500 La Brea Car Pits, L .A. County Museum. 34 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,740 What are you buying, the city? It's for my parents. My mother doesn't think 35 00:03:02,740 --> 00:03:05,580 she's seen something unless she has a souvenir to bring back to the Prairie 36 00:03:05,580 --> 00:03:08,120 Daughters Assistance League. Billy, I got something for you. What? 37 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,800 Excuse me, is this a bad time? It's Parents Visiting Week. 38 00:03:12,460 --> 00:03:14,060 What about your dad? He's a very nice guy. 39 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,700 They're both very nice people. They really are. But after ten minutes, I 40 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:19,880 like I'm back in high school. 41 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,980 Sure, that's normal. You always feel like a kid when you're around your 42 00:03:23,060 --> 00:03:25,920 It's only when you come to work that you feel like a grown -up. If you interrupt 43 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,420 one more time, I'm sending you to your room without your supper. 44 00:03:29,420 --> 00:03:32,860 Lou, I appreciate them. I really do. It's just their attitude. 45 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:34,900 They're always so darn cheerful. 46 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:40,220 And my mother insists on cooking fried chicken, pork chops, and goopy cream 47 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:41,220 pies. 48 00:03:41,450 --> 00:03:42,570 Oh, that's too bad. 49 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:47,210 Lou, you know that stuff is no good for you. I've heard you say hold the mashed 50 00:03:47,210 --> 00:03:48,210 potatoes. 51 00:03:48,570 --> 00:03:49,950 Well, I like to keep trim. 52 00:03:50,530 --> 00:03:53,710 Listen, this story's been sitting on your desk all morning. I'm sorry, Lou. I 53 00:03:53,710 --> 00:03:54,710 just didn't see it. 54 00:03:54,890 --> 00:03:55,990 Story about a girl. 55 00:03:56,750 --> 00:04:02,210 Lou, why do I always get the girl stories? Why not, Rossi? Why is it 56 00:04:02,770 --> 00:04:04,910 This girl is suing a dozen drug companies. 57 00:04:05,410 --> 00:04:08,950 She's got a rare form of cancer they say is linked to a drug her mother took 58 00:04:08,950 --> 00:04:09,950 while she was pregnant. 59 00:04:10,299 --> 00:04:11,299 Hormone called DES. 60 00:04:11,780 --> 00:04:15,060 What, you mean people have died from it? They say a few. I think we ought to 61 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:16,060 look into it. Cancer? 62 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,760 Yeah, but, uh... Ah, you're right. I always give you the girl stories. So, 63 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,060 Rossi... You give this to Rossi, I'll kill you. 64 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,300 Diaboltobetrol. DES. 65 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,360 The wonder drug that was going to prevent miscarriages. 66 00:04:32,780 --> 00:04:34,260 And did it succeed, Doctor? 67 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,240 Well, DES is a synthetic estrogen, a female hormone. The theory was, give a 68 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,020 woman more estrogen and she won't miscarry. 69 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,180 The guy who invented it in England in the 30s didn't even wait for a patent. 70 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:48,480 wanted to give this miracle to the world. 71 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:53,180 And he didn't care about making money. Which left it wide open for the American 72 00:04:53,180 --> 00:04:55,020 companies to start producing DES. 73 00:04:55,540 --> 00:04:57,600 It was a free -for -all. 74 00:04:58,180 --> 00:04:59,540 Didn't they test it? 75 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,040 Didn't they test it? Sure. 76 00:05:02,460 --> 00:05:06,080 And there were cancers, but not enough to stop the FDA from licensing. 77 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,360 What do you mean, not enough? 78 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,500 Well, drug testing then was nothing like it is today. 79 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,600 Now, in their testing, none of the pregnant rats got cancer. 80 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,760 But some of the babies did, six months later. 81 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:20,360 Now, that's 20 years in terms of human life, which brings us to today. 82 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,120 I can't tell you the trouble the ES is causing me. You. 83 00:05:25,460 --> 00:05:26,620 Let me show you something. 84 00:05:27,130 --> 00:05:31,350 Now remember, the chances of a DES daughter developing vaginal cancer are 85 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:32,930 than one in 1 ,400. 86 00:05:33,630 --> 00:05:37,330 Any woman's chances of developing breast cancer are 60 times greater. So you 87 00:05:37,330 --> 00:05:38,950 see, the DES percentage is small. 88 00:05:39,850 --> 00:05:42,390 But cancer isn't the only thing we're finding. 89 00:05:43,550 --> 00:05:44,550 Take a look at this. 90 00:05:45,250 --> 00:05:49,810 Now this is a normal uterus. This is a T -shaped one of the type we're now 91 00:05:49,810 --> 00:05:51,350 finding in some DES daughters. 92 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:55,190 You could have trouble having a baby here. There's no place for it to grow. 93 00:05:55,630 --> 00:05:59,410 So a DES daughter also runs the risk of being sterile. No, no, no, not sterile. 94 00:05:59,510 --> 00:06:02,570 A woman can conceive, but she may not be able to carry it a full term. 95 00:06:03,570 --> 00:06:08,770 In addition, 98 % of all DES daughters develop abnormal tissue growth. 96 00:06:09,010 --> 00:06:11,730 And we've only begun to research DES sons. 97 00:06:12,170 --> 00:06:16,050 But you haven't answered my question. Does DES prevent miscarriages? 98 00:06:17,530 --> 00:06:22,690 In 1952, this hospital did a study in which 1 ,000 pregnant women were given 99 00:06:22,690 --> 00:06:24,850 DES. Another 1 ,000 got a placebo. 100 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,780 And what did they find out? 101 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,140 They found out the DES is of no use whatsoever in preventing miscarriage. 102 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:36,300 Simon, here's the quotes from the Public Utilities Commission. 103 00:06:36,660 --> 00:06:37,660 We can use them. Let's see. 104 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,880 It's not much different than what they said last week. What can you say about a 105 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:41,699 rate increase? 106 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:44,260 Why don't we ask some of the customers? I'll bet they'll have plenty to say. 107 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Good idea. 108 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,140 You know who you ought to talk to. Excuse me. We'd like to see the editor. 109 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,339 Can I help? 110 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:51,340 Are you the editor? 111 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,219 One of them. 112 00:06:52,220 --> 00:06:54,140 We would like to talk to the person in charge. 113 00:06:54,650 --> 00:06:55,650 Can you tell us what it's about? 114 00:06:55,950 --> 00:06:58,150 The newspaper must make an apology. 115 00:06:58,510 --> 00:06:59,510 What for? 116 00:07:00,690 --> 00:07:01,990 A wedding announcement. 117 00:07:02,710 --> 00:07:05,050 Sarah Hartunian to wed Jamal Azhar. 118 00:07:05,310 --> 00:07:06,289 Your daughter? 119 00:07:06,290 --> 00:07:07,290 My niece. 120 00:07:07,710 --> 00:07:10,050 Nice looking girl. Don't tell me she got stood up. 121 00:07:10,370 --> 00:07:14,310 Quite the opposite. They intend to be married. But we can't have this 122 00:07:14,310 --> 00:07:19,170 announcement. I'm sorry, but we've already run it. If we printed an apology 123 00:07:19,170 --> 00:07:21,950 every wedding that didn't work out, we'd need a whole separate section. 124 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:24,240 But it was done without our permission. 125 00:07:24,940 --> 00:07:27,440 Look, there's nothing we can do for you. We're kind of busy here. Give us a 126 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,440 break, okay? 127 00:07:28,580 --> 00:07:32,500 Why don't you talk to the society editor in the Today section down the hall? 128 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:40,380 Well, those days in the diplomatic corps weren't wasted, were they, Rossi? 129 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:42,060 Why? What'd I say? 130 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,720 You got the rate chart? 131 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:45,620 It's still in graphics. I get it. 132 00:07:52,910 --> 00:07:54,270 Do you work here? 133 00:07:54,610 --> 00:07:57,830 Yeah, can I help you? Well, we want to talk to somebody in the Today section. 134 00:07:58,430 --> 00:08:02,410 Is this a society item or an announcement that you want to see them 135 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:03,810 it's about a wedding announcement. 136 00:08:05,030 --> 00:08:07,830 Oh. Oh, well, that's wonderful. Congratulations. 137 00:08:08,450 --> 00:08:10,670 It's all the way down the hall and to the right. 138 00:08:11,410 --> 00:08:12,410 Congratulations. 139 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:23,300 Listen, I did not mean to be rude before. You can understand why we are so 140 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:26,180 upset. Not really. What's the big deal about this wedding? 141 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,900 Our niece is a very good girl, but she thinks she's in love with a man who is 142 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:30,900 not Armenian. 143 00:08:31,220 --> 00:08:32,919 How can we permit a public announcement? 144 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,980 I don't know. How can you prevent it? 145 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,980 The man she wants to marry is what we call an Odar, not Armenian. 146 00:08:39,460 --> 00:08:40,480 Worse than Odar. 147 00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:41,860 He's a Turk. 148 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:44,780 Really? She will be disinherited. 149 00:08:45,260 --> 00:08:46,520 So you see, it's not for ourselves. 150 00:08:47,070 --> 00:08:49,510 But for the sake of the girl, we must prevent this marriage. 151 00:08:50,390 --> 00:08:52,010 Where is the society person? 152 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:54,450 Come on, I'll show you. 153 00:08:54,650 --> 00:08:55,650 Oh, thank you. 154 00:08:57,550 --> 00:08:59,570 I know this is a sensitive topic. 155 00:09:00,230 --> 00:09:01,230 That's okay. 156 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:04,990 How did you find out that you were a DES daughter? 157 00:09:05,530 --> 00:09:09,490 Well, Mom read about DES in a woman's magazine and remembered that she'd taken 158 00:09:09,490 --> 00:09:10,490 something. 159 00:09:10,930 --> 00:09:12,950 I'd had two miscarriages before Jessica. 160 00:09:13,959 --> 00:09:18,100 My gynecologist sent me to a DES screening clinic. They're all over the 161 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,660 The doctor found a tumor, but he didn't call it that. He said, we found a degree 162 00:09:24,660 --> 00:09:25,660 of disease. 163 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,840 I don't think he could deal with telling me. 164 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:30,600 I said, a disease? 165 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,240 You mean cancer? 166 00:09:34,820 --> 00:09:35,820 He said, yes. 167 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,720 Do you remember that? 168 00:09:40,010 --> 00:09:43,250 At a time like that, you say to yourself, be calm, be rational. 169 00:09:44,010 --> 00:09:45,750 They have cures for these things now. 170 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:48,850 She's telling me not to cry and she's got tears running down her face. 171 00:09:52,050 --> 00:09:58,710 What freaked me out was not so much having cancer as the possibility of not 172 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:59,710 being able to have children. 173 00:10:01,250 --> 00:10:02,630 I really want to be a mother. 174 00:10:05,170 --> 00:10:06,490 Well, that was three years ago. 175 00:10:07,630 --> 00:10:10,190 took out my vaginal wall and my right ovary. 176 00:10:11,630 --> 00:10:12,870 Monday, I go in again. 177 00:10:14,890 --> 00:10:17,030 They think the left ovary may be cystic. 178 00:10:19,730 --> 00:10:22,050 What are your claims against the drug companies? 179 00:10:23,010 --> 00:10:28,510 That their negligence led to my pain and suffering, emotional distress, 180 00:10:28,990 --> 00:10:33,610 loss of parts of my body, loss of sexual enjoyment. 181 00:10:33,930 --> 00:10:35,310 Do you mind talking about that? 182 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,860 I had to make a deposition in front of 11 male lawyers. 183 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,560 Questions like, um, did you ever have a good sex life? 184 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,020 Did you ever have an orgasm? 185 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,940 How many men have you slept with? 186 00:10:50,180 --> 00:10:52,580 Can I ask you those questions? We're claiming a loss. 187 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:57,240 I guess they have to prove I never had sexual enjoyment in the first place, so 188 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,240 had nothing to lose. 189 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:00,560 It was brutal. 190 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Can you imagine men asking my daughter questions like that? 191 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,780 Can you imagine me answering them in front of my mother? 192 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:15,880 Do you really think that it's the drug company's fault or that it's a tragic 193 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,880 accident? 194 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,040 Well, somebody's at fault. 195 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,280 You two seem very close. 196 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,900 Well, we have our moments, but we've been through so much. 197 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,500 A lot more open than I am with my mother. She's a good kid. 198 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:39,080 Have you asked your mother? 199 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:40,660 Have I asked my mother? 200 00:11:42,540 --> 00:11:46,680 No. Well, you know, I only heard about you yesterday before yesterday. Did she 201 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:49,800 have any miscarriages or trouble with pregnancies? 202 00:11:51,180 --> 00:11:52,180 No. 203 00:11:52,460 --> 00:11:57,960 Well, I do remember that my dad mentioned a baby brother who died 204 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:03,860 Well, anyhow, Jessica, how much do you expect to get in the settlement? 205 00:12:05,580 --> 00:12:06,580 Talk to her, Billy. 206 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,460 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 207 00:12:36,650 --> 00:12:37,650 I don't know, but they're terrific. 208 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:41,470 It's called Sarma. Hi, I'm George Phipps. Oh, Joe Rossi. Dennis Price. 209 00:12:42,570 --> 00:12:44,530 Phipps. That's a fine old Armenian name. 210 00:12:45,250 --> 00:12:48,050 Jamal and I were roommates in law school. Are you friends of the bride or 211 00:12:48,050 --> 00:12:49,410 groom? We don't know either one. 212 00:12:49,710 --> 00:12:51,610 We're from the Tribune. I'm going to get some shots. 213 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,940 Doesn't it get a little boring just covering weddings all the time? Oh, wait 214 00:12:55,940 --> 00:12:57,560 minute. We're not from the society page. 215 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,320 Artunian and his wife came to our office to retract the announcement about this 216 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,760 wedding. They were very burned up. Oh, that's Leon. Sarah's uncle. He's very 217 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,200 conservative. They own a bank over in Riverside. There's a big Armenian 218 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,860 community over there. Yeah, well, why are they so upset? 219 00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:11,340 Well, Zermal is a Turk. 220 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:12,940 Yeah? And Sarah's Armenian. 221 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,260 I've heard there's a problem, but, uh... Oh, the Turkish government 222 00:13:17,260 --> 00:13:19,500 systematically exterminated Armenians for centuries. 223 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:22,180 There were mass executions in 1915 and 1916. 224 00:13:22,670 --> 00:13:25,490 I think Sarah's father and uncle were in Turkey then. So when her father found 225 00:13:25,490 --> 00:13:28,250 out she wanted to marry a Turk... He changed his will. Cut her out completely 226 00:13:28,250 --> 00:13:29,730 and left the money to an Armenian charity. 227 00:13:29,950 --> 00:13:30,970 It really hurt Sarah Noosh. 228 00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:34,570 Sarah Noosh? Well, that's Sarah's real name. In Armenian, it means love sweet. 229 00:13:34,970 --> 00:13:35,970 Yes, indeed. 230 00:13:36,470 --> 00:13:37,429 Hello, George. 231 00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:38,430 Here. 232 00:13:38,650 --> 00:13:40,530 Well, you made it. Yes, I didn't even cry. 233 00:13:40,830 --> 00:13:43,850 Oh, this is Joe Rossi from the trip. Hi, Joe. I'm glad you could come. 234 00:13:44,350 --> 00:13:45,390 Congratulations. Thank you. 235 00:13:45,930 --> 00:13:47,050 I met your aunt and uncle. 236 00:13:47,950 --> 00:13:51,830 Well, let's not spoil a beautiful day. Let me get us some champagne. All right. 237 00:13:52,650 --> 00:13:53,890 Come on, I'd like you to meet my husband. 238 00:13:54,190 --> 00:13:57,910 You know, your aunt and uncle seem like very nice people, a little overwrought, 239 00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:59,950 but what's bothering them? 240 00:14:00,470 --> 00:14:04,590 Well, my whole family feels that Jamal and I are being selfish and that we only 241 00:14:04,590 --> 00:14:06,270 want to hurt them. Excuse me one second. 242 00:14:06,570 --> 00:14:10,070 I'd like you to meet my husband, Jamal. This is... Joe Rossi. From the Trib. 243 00:14:10,670 --> 00:14:11,830 Congratulations. Thank you very much. 244 00:14:12,090 --> 00:14:16,170 I was just telling Joe that if my relatives could only see how much 245 00:14:16,170 --> 00:14:18,730 hurting us, none of my family would even come today. 246 00:14:19,130 --> 00:14:21,310 I know that the past is very painful. 247 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,900 It's just that it's none of our business and that we feel it should be laid to 248 00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:27,000 rest. Hopefully the courts will back us up. 249 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,320 The courts? 250 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,240 Sarah and Jamal are contesting the will. 251 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,460 It must be very rough going up against your own family in court. 252 00:14:34,780 --> 00:14:36,260 Well, let's not talk about it now. 253 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,580 An Armenian toast to the bride and groom. 254 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:43,900 Very good. 255 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,700 May you grow old on one pillow. 256 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Salute. 257 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,340 I'd really like to talk to you some more about this. Can we meet later? 258 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,140 Well, not later tonight. 259 00:14:55,980 --> 00:14:57,560 No. No, no. 260 00:15:00,260 --> 00:15:01,260 Boy, 261 00:15:01,780 --> 00:15:03,180 the language they use. 262 00:15:04,060 --> 00:15:05,460 Pregnancy wastage. 263 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,040 Fetal salvage. 264 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:09,840 Sounds like they're talking about a junkyard, not a woman's body. 265 00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:15,080 Yeah. You know, I wonder if part of the reason for this DES situation comes from 266 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,560 the attitude male doctors have toward women patients. 267 00:15:17,860 --> 00:15:18,860 Could be. 268 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:21,300 Everything okay, Billy? 269 00:15:21,540 --> 00:15:22,760 You sound sort of distracted. 270 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:32,040 Well, yesterday I... I went to see my gynecologist for my yearly exam four 271 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,040 months early. 272 00:15:33,540 --> 00:15:34,540 Well, are you okay? 273 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Well, she found some minor abnormalities, which could be nothing. 274 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Unless my mother took DES. 275 00:15:43,660 --> 00:15:45,520 What do you mean, unless? Did she or didn't she? 276 00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:46,740 No. 277 00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:49,480 Don't you talk to your mother? She's sleeping in your living room. 278 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,460 You can't torture her about these things, Lou. She's old -fashioned. 279 00:15:52,980 --> 00:15:55,700 Slip her a note at the dinner table. That way you won't have to say it out 280 00:15:56,820 --> 00:15:59,080 It's better to know than not know and imagine the worst. 281 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,360 Boy, do I have a terrific imagination. 282 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,320 I've never seen such an elaborate pitch for a story. Come on, Lou, you loved it. 283 00:16:44,620 --> 00:16:45,700 Do you mind if we split this? 284 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,339 Yeah, yeah. 285 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:49,380 Look, why don't you just tell me about these people? 286 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Oh, no, the background's important. 287 00:16:53,340 --> 00:16:54,340 Oh, Mr. 288 00:16:54,980 --> 00:16:55,639 and Mrs. 289 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,640 Hartoonian. 290 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,820 I'd like you to meet my editor, Lou Grant. 291 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:00,740 Oh, how do you do? 292 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,360 How do you do? Thank you. 293 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Oh, aren't you having a coffee after dinner? 294 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,300 Oh, yeah, fine, sure. 295 00:17:07,540 --> 00:17:08,740 Oh, you take a look at the food. 296 00:17:13,010 --> 00:17:18,270 So, you want to know how a father could be so cruel as to disinherit his 297 00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:22,530 daughter? And an uncle, such a monster as to uphold a will? 298 00:17:23,690 --> 00:17:27,230 Well, it's one thing to have disagreements within a family, but it's 299 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:28,230 take them to court. 300 00:17:28,770 --> 00:17:29,890 Sarah, who's suing? 301 00:17:30,510 --> 00:17:33,970 Even so, maybe this will help you understand. 302 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:40,980 Sarah's father and I were small boys together in a town of Van, which was in 303 00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:41,980 Turkey. 304 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:47,100 One night, the Turks came and took our father and all the young men of the 305 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:50,060 Armenian quarter, marched them out of town and shot them. 306 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:53,720 Our father was a teacher, you see. 307 00:17:54,740 --> 00:18:00,140 And a Turkish plan for solving the Armenian problem was to cut off the head 308 00:18:00,140 --> 00:18:02,440 the community, intellectuals first. 309 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Then, with all the young men gone, 310 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:07,640 It was easy to massacre the rest. 311 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,020 Why would they do that? 312 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,040 Why? 313 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:19,240 One can say because we were the shopkeepers and bankers, and the Turkish 314 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,240 didn't like that. 315 00:18:20,940 --> 00:18:26,420 Or one can say because the Turks accused us, without basis, of collaborating 316 00:18:26,420 --> 00:18:28,420 with the Russians who had invaded the country. 317 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,960 But that explains nothing. 318 00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:33,500 No, you cannot explain genocide. 319 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:39,960 In 1915 and 1916, a million and a half Armenians were killed. 320 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:43,440 Would you like to know how? 321 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,600 We were marched into the desert to starve. 322 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,360 Women were raped. 323 00:18:50,180 --> 00:18:52,820 Babies were thrown up in the air and impaled on swords. 324 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:59,700 Levon and his brother escaped only because the falling bodies protected 325 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:03,040 the road when the Turks were galloping their horses over the dead. 326 00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:11,140 Before the invasion of Poland, one of his advisors told Hitler, you can't 327 00:19:11,140 --> 00:19:12,140 mass murder. 328 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:13,740 What will the world say? 329 00:19:15,140 --> 00:19:16,660 And Hitler replied, 330 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:21,840 who still remembers the extermination of the Armenians? 331 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:29,500 If our own daughters don't remember, who will? 332 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,360 But if the next generation doesn't heal the wounds, 333 00:19:34,410 --> 00:19:36,110 Will the world be constantly at war? 334 00:19:37,450 --> 00:19:41,630 Young people must realize their identity extends beyond themselves. 335 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:45,470 Morning. 336 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:52,789 Morning, Annie. 337 00:19:52,790 --> 00:19:53,810 What's in the news, Dad? 338 00:19:54,050 --> 00:19:55,050 Oh, the usual. 339 00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:57,670 Won't you have a night today, dear? No, I'll just have my yogurt. 340 00:19:57,890 --> 00:19:59,210 You eat like a bird. 341 00:20:00,010 --> 00:20:02,330 You know how much cholesterol there is in bacon and eggs? 342 00:20:02,990 --> 00:20:07,790 Aunt Evelyn fries everything in pork fat and look at her. Not a wrinkle, 84, and 343 00:20:07,790 --> 00:20:09,150 still has her own red hair. 344 00:20:09,390 --> 00:20:11,670 86. And there's sugar in that yogurt. 345 00:20:12,290 --> 00:20:15,430 Coastal Commissioner denies wrongdoing by Billy Newman. 346 00:20:15,850 --> 00:20:19,210 Looks like you really had him nervous here, honey. Yeah, I think I got him 347 00:20:19,210 --> 00:20:20,590 nailed. Let me say that here. 348 00:20:20,970 --> 00:20:23,070 It often takes time to develop these things. 349 00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:24,970 This is certainly well written. 350 00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:28,470 Punctuation good, all spelled right, everything right. 351 00:20:29,050 --> 00:20:30,930 You know what your mother still carries around with her? 352 00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:32,270 Vines of spring. 353 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,360 Oh, mother. Oh, no, that's so awful. 354 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,300 I keep it for good luck. 355 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:38,820 First thing you ever publish. 356 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,140 I wouldn't call Hickok Elementary School's poetry basket being published. 357 00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:45,220 What are you working on now? 358 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:49,460 It's a story about DES. 359 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,280 It's a female hormone that women took for 30 years. 360 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,540 Please, dear, not while we're having breakfast. 361 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Your mother doesn't like to discuss hormones before lunch. 362 00:21:01,550 --> 00:21:02,770 Mom, can I ask you something? 363 00:21:03,050 --> 00:21:04,050 Mm -hmm. 364 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:08,410 The baby that you had before me, how old was he when he died? 365 00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:10,270 How old? 366 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:13,990 Well, he was stillborn, Billy, at seven months. 367 00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:16,030 Why do you want to know? There was a miscarriage? 368 00:21:16,730 --> 00:21:19,710 Did the doctor give you anything while you were carrying me so that it wouldn't 369 00:21:19,710 --> 00:21:20,710 happen again? 370 00:21:20,770 --> 00:21:21,770 I don't know. 371 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:23,810 I think I took something. 372 00:21:24,050 --> 00:21:25,590 What was it? I don't know. 373 00:21:25,790 --> 00:21:27,590 Didn't you ask? Ask the doctor. 374 00:21:28,970 --> 00:21:30,230 There were probably vitamins. 375 00:21:30,910 --> 00:21:33,170 Did he give you any shots or suppositories? 376 00:21:33,450 --> 00:21:36,410 Billy? Mother, I'm sorry, but it's important. 377 00:21:36,650 --> 00:21:40,070 You may have taken something harmful, which might be affecting me now. 378 00:21:40,930 --> 00:21:43,030 Dr. Bradley was an excellent physician. 379 00:21:43,390 --> 00:21:45,250 Yes, but he might not have known. 380 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:47,170 Well, when we get back home, we'll call him. 381 00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:49,390 Oh, I think he moved after he retired. 382 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:52,030 Well, maybe the drugstore has a record of it. 383 00:21:52,490 --> 00:21:56,410 Billy, you're healthy. You've never had any problems. I don't go looking for 384 00:21:56,410 --> 00:21:59,090 trouble. Mom, not looking at this isn't going to make it go away. 385 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,880 Philipsy, don't you worry about it. I am worried about it. Well, you've told us 386 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,380 and we'll take care of it. Listen, just don't brush this off. 387 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,780 This isn't something that just happens to other people, you know. 388 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:15,140 And if there's something wrong with me because of something you took, how would 389 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:16,760 you take care of it? 390 00:22:25,740 --> 00:22:28,180 Lou Grant will continue in a moment. 391 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,480 here on A andE. 392 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,080 Be seated. 393 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:45,000 Closing argument in defense of the will, please, Mr. Boyan. 394 00:22:46,620 --> 00:22:53,540 Your Honor, under the state of California, a person may dispose 395 00:22:53,540 --> 00:22:58,240 of his property any way he wishes, provided he is mentally, and physically 396 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:04,960 competent now there's no question that mr hartunian was alert and 397 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:11,680 lucid when he made these changes in his will and his intent was very clear he 398 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:18,300 did not want his daughter to marry a turk your honor the father witnessed the 399 00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:23,900 annihilation of his family isn't it right to try to rebuild that family to 400 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,760 communicate ethnic pride to his daughter 401 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,100 He made this provision not because he loved her less, but because he loved her 402 00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:35,780 more. A decision which must have caused him much anguish in the last days of his 403 00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:41,220 life, and a decision which this court is bound by California law to uphold. 404 00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:43,540 Thank you. 405 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Thank you, Mr. Boynt. 406 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,360 Closing arguments for the plaintiff, please, Mr. Phipps. 407 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,680 Your Honor, these two young, responsible people wanted to be married and start a 408 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,360 family. The policy of this state... is to encourage marriage. 409 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,840 One of the great principles of this country has been the abandonment of 410 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,640 hostilities from other times and places, allowing people to start again, free 411 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,900 from the bitterness of the past. 412 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,840 To uphold this will would be to keep those wounds open, to go against the 413 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,780 constructive urge in our society which encourages marriage, and to deny a basic 414 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:19,840 right, the right to marry freely. 415 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,280 It's not the business of this court, or even of an anguished father. 416 00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:28,390 To deny these two young people a future together, if they so choose. 417 00:24:29,170 --> 00:24:30,170 Thank you. 418 00:24:31,030 --> 00:24:32,030 Thank you, gentlemen. 419 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:37,510 The court will rule on this most difficult matter in ten days. 420 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:39,710 Court's adjourned. 421 00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:45,630 Excuse me. I hope you are proud. 422 00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:48,950 I don't believe that my father wanted me to remember him this way. 423 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:52,190 And I don't want my children to believe that they never had a grandfather. 424 00:24:52,910 --> 00:24:53,930 Papa loved me. 425 00:24:54,540 --> 00:24:58,400 He did. And this is how you repay him, Sidhanush? 426 00:24:58,740 --> 00:25:00,320 My name is Sarah. 427 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,340 Excuse me. Do you think I can just dance? 428 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,440 Dr. Adam. 429 00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:12,000 Dr. Adam. Please contact Dr. 430 00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:13,260 Margot. Hi, Billy. 431 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:14,360 Hi. 432 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,740 Oh, that's pretty. 433 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,040 You like it? My boyfriend brought it to me. 434 00:25:23,950 --> 00:25:24,950 Sweet of you. 435 00:25:26,790 --> 00:25:27,790 How are you feeling? 436 00:25:29,690 --> 00:25:30,690 Rotten. 437 00:25:31,770 --> 00:25:32,910 Your mother told me. 438 00:25:34,650 --> 00:25:35,650 Yeah. 439 00:25:36,290 --> 00:25:38,490 Well, at least you don't have to worry about birth control, right? 440 00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:48,310 I brought you some good news. 441 00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:52,530 That DES case in Wisconsin, you know, the one like yours, was decided. 442 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,400 The jury awarded the woman $300 ,000. 443 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,340 She was asking $8 million. 444 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,180 It's a pretty good settlement. 445 00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:02,220 So she should be grateful? 446 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,240 I have to tell you, it's pretty hard to feel grateful. 447 00:26:07,420 --> 00:26:08,420 I know. 448 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,860 Well, having a man in your life who cares must help. 449 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Sure. 450 00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:21,280 Except who knows for how long. 451 00:26:23,690 --> 00:26:27,410 Hey, let's face it. There are a million women out there he can have a baby with 452 00:26:27,410 --> 00:26:28,790 and a normal sex life. 453 00:26:29,710 --> 00:26:30,870 Why should he want me? 454 00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:33,630 Because you're still you? 455 00:26:35,210 --> 00:26:36,750 Well, almost. 456 00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:40,090 I didn't know what to say to her. 457 00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:45,650 To think that this tiny chemical changed her life before she was born, and now 458 00:26:45,650 --> 00:26:46,810 there is nothing to be done. 459 00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:48,410 It isn't fair. 460 00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:50,190 Can I tell you something? 461 00:26:51,050 --> 00:26:55,330 When I went in the hospital for that thyroid thing two years ago, I really 462 00:26:55,330 --> 00:26:59,890 thought I was going to die. When you told you have cancer, I could even feel 463 00:26:59,890 --> 00:27:02,010 little bugger when I pressed hard. It's over, Lou. 464 00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:03,490 You're okay now. 465 00:27:03,670 --> 00:27:04,670 Sure, now. 466 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:05,910 But then I was angry. 467 00:27:06,270 --> 00:27:09,410 I wanted to blame everyone who pushed x -ray treatments for bad skin. 468 00:27:09,710 --> 00:27:14,210 And you had every right to be. Sure, you were mad, and I'm mad. I'm mad at the 469 00:27:14,210 --> 00:27:16,590 drug companies. I'm mad at the doctor. 470 00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:19,550 And most of all, I'm mad at my mother. 471 00:27:20,650 --> 00:27:21,650 That isn't fair. 472 00:27:22,270 --> 00:27:27,290 She acts so innocent in all this, Lou, like she isn't responsible for her own 473 00:27:27,290 --> 00:27:29,970 body. Maybe she's too frightened to be any other way. 474 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:34,890 Yeah, and that's what bothers me. You know, Lou, when my uncle died, my mother 475 00:27:34,890 --> 00:27:38,710 was in the kitchen with all the kids making cookies, acting as if nothing had 476 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:41,430 happened, while all the grown -ups were in the living room grieving. 477 00:27:41,930 --> 00:27:44,830 I was so embarrassed making cookies. 478 00:27:45,710 --> 00:27:48,950 Well, maybe that was a good idea, keeping everybody going. 479 00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:50,370 Oh, yeah, sure. 480 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:58,570 All I want is for her to say, I may have taken something that could hurt you, 481 00:27:58,610 --> 00:27:59,890 Billy. Let's find out. 482 00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:02,970 Is that too much to ask of her? 483 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:04,190 It could be. 484 00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:12,050 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 485 00:28:17,390 --> 00:28:18,249 Oh, good, Lou. 486 00:28:18,250 --> 00:28:19,250 Come in. 487 00:28:19,390 --> 00:28:24,490 Uh, how big a story is Billy planning to do on that hormone business? 488 00:28:25,030 --> 00:28:28,390 Looks pretty good. She got some lengthy interviews, and she's still sifting 489 00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:29,390 through all that data. 490 00:28:29,550 --> 00:28:34,150 Yeah. You know, our science and medicine writers just finished that long series 491 00:28:34,150 --> 00:28:36,050 on pesticides and drinking water. 492 00:28:36,430 --> 00:28:41,190 So? So, we're not publishing a science magazine here. 493 00:28:41,690 --> 00:28:43,990 I suggest that we hold off for a couple of weeks. 494 00:28:44,930 --> 00:28:46,610 This is important, Charlie. 495 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,820 They use DES to fatten up cattle, and they still give it to women as the 496 00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:51,759 after pill. 497 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Oh, great. 498 00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:55,040 One more thing I can't eat. Beef. 499 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,900 The beginning of the year, I stopped eating bacon. That lasted two weeks 500 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:03,660 heard that beer and scotch have some kind of junk in them. Can you believe 501 00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:05,820 report that comes out, there's nothing left to eat? 502 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:07,620 Take it easy, Charlie. 503 00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:09,400 All beef doesn't have DES. 504 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,100 But I think we should run with this story because there may be a lot of 505 00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:17,000 born after 1940 who read the trip whose mothers may have taken this stuff. They 506 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 ought to get checked. 507 00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:19,180 Is that widespread? 508 00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:22,800 Do they think she might be a candidate? There are two or three other women out 509 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,180 there on the phone to their mothers. Isn't Joanie in that group? 510 00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:27,660 Joanie, I guess she is. 511 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,040 Maybe you ought to mention DES when you get home tonight. Home? 512 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,240 I'm going to call right now. 513 00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:34,960 What about Billy's story? 514 00:29:35,260 --> 00:29:36,720 I ought to hurry up with it. 515 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,380 The whole Armenian guy was senile, huh? 516 00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:44,940 Insecting his essence. 517 00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:48,480 By cutting off his own daughter? With his money, he could do what he wanted 518 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,840 You can call it that. 519 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,940 Or you might say he's imposing an unreasonable demand on his daughter. 520 00:29:54,180 --> 00:29:58,140 If a will isn't sacred, what is? It's the one chance in life to get your way 521 00:29:58,140 --> 00:29:59,180 with no backtalk. 522 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,120 Did you see Rossi's stuff on the girl and her husband? 523 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,120 This fight's been pretty rough on them, too. 524 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,400 Yeah, but I don't know. 525 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,040 Yeah, I think we tend to confuse money with love. 526 00:30:09,550 --> 00:30:12,650 If he didn't leave me all his bucks, he couldn't have cared. Well, that's not 527 00:30:12,650 --> 00:30:13,690 necessarily true. 528 00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:16,430 Tell that to the kid who's been cut out. 529 00:30:16,810 --> 00:30:19,170 There should be a way you can limit the amount you can inherit. 530 00:30:19,390 --> 00:30:21,310 There is. It's called the inheritance tax. 531 00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:23,870 And what's the point of working and saving for your kid's future? 532 00:30:24,150 --> 00:30:27,930 Right. I want my kids to be better off than I was. As long as they're not in 533 00:30:27,930 --> 00:30:28,930 this business, I'll be fine. 534 00:30:33,050 --> 00:30:34,870 Hi, Dad. Hi, Annie. Where's Ma? 535 00:30:35,390 --> 00:30:36,910 Uh, she's seeing Beverly Hills. 536 00:30:37,330 --> 00:30:38,330 Alone? 537 00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:39,820 That doesn't sound like her. 538 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:41,660 She's upset. 539 00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:43,220 She's upset. 540 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,520 Well, maybe we should have lunch upstairs here in the cafeteria. It 541 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,259 too bad. 542 00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:50,420 Well, that sounds fine. 543 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,040 Why can't Mom just sit down and talk to me? 544 00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,640 Well, honey, you and she are very different. 545 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,200 She's not as direct. 546 00:31:00,460 --> 00:31:01,460 Am I too direct? 547 00:31:02,940 --> 00:31:03,940 Occupational hazard. 548 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:11,030 We're going to San Diego tonight to see Aunt Ellie, but I don't want to leave 549 00:31:11,030 --> 00:31:12,030 with bad feelings. 550 00:31:12,050 --> 00:31:13,850 Oh, go, go. You should go. 551 00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:15,950 We'll be back Friday. 552 00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:21,370 I tracked down every lead I could to find Dr. Bradley. 553 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:25,410 I called our old drugstore in Sioux Falls. As a matter of fact, I tried 554 00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:26,410 drugstore in town. 555 00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:29,830 I tried the AMA and the Department of Motor Vehicles. 556 00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:31,650 I even tried Helly Green. 557 00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:35,780 Who? Oh, she's a girl that I went to school with. She knew everything about 558 00:31:35,780 --> 00:31:36,780 everybody. 559 00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:38,500 I tried to track him down, too. 560 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,840 You're right. 561 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:43,100 The post office lost track of him. The hospital lost track of him. 562 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:47,500 But the Sioux Falls Sportsman's Club knew exactly where he was. 563 00:31:48,020 --> 00:31:49,840 The Sioux Falls Sportsman's Club? 564 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,900 I remember sitting in his waiting room, looking at stuffed elk heads and little 565 00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:59,820 gray squirrels with red glass eyes. 566 00:32:00,220 --> 00:32:02,240 Hey, Dad, you would have made a great reporter. 567 00:32:02,540 --> 00:32:04,480 Now, where do you think you got it from? Here you go. 568 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Thank you. 569 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,900 Billy, I hope you and your mother can work this out. 570 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,000 Well, you know what she's like. 571 00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:20,560 When you and I talk, it's always so much easier. 572 00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:22,060 And it always was. 573 00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:29,380 Well, you know, even when you were growing up, it was easier for me. 574 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:32,660 Your mom had you right out of school. 575 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:35,380 Made you do your homework and practice your piano. 576 00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:38,080 Had to get dinner fixed and put on the table. 577 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,340 And then about 7 o 'clock, I'd walk through the door, ready to listen to you 578 00:32:43,340 --> 00:32:45,920 about your day and loving every word of it. 579 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,060 So I was easier to talk to and easier to get along with. 580 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,540 Of course, I didn't mind that because I wanted to be your friend. 581 00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:58,080 I knew even then your mom didn't have as good a deal. 582 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,680 I still don't understand how she could have taken pills without knowing what 583 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,680 they were. 584 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,720 She was told that they would allow her to have a baby. 585 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,040 You. 586 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,440 Which she wanted very much. 587 00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:11,340 Didn't she ask? 588 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,560 Didn't she wonder? 589 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,340 Billy, you're not the only one that's scared. 590 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,440 I've got to go to South Dakota. 591 00:33:29,740 --> 00:33:32,980 You ever been to South Dakota this time of year? I grew up there, remember? 592 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,240 Then you should know better. 593 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,420 Looks like there may have been more than one coastal commissioner on the take. 594 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,360 There's a big press conference. Lou, I've got to go. The doctor who treated 595 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,360 mother has records. 596 00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:42,840 Can't he tell you over the phone? 597 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,100 I tried that. He sounds like he's 102 years old. Trust him. I have got to see 598 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,100 for myself. 599 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,920 You've got a story here that isn't going to wait. Can't you put off the trip for 600 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,140 a few days? No, I can't. Is that my decision or yours? 601 00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:56,380 It's mine, Lou. 602 00:33:56,670 --> 00:34:00,090 You've done all the background on this, and I want you covering the scandal. In 603 00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:02,850 this business, you don't walk off in the middle of a story. Lou, if there's 604 00:34:02,850 --> 00:34:06,130 something growing inside me, I have to find out, and I don't give a damn about 605 00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:09,550 little graft on the Coastal Commission. This isn't the newspaper business. It's 606 00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:11,330 my life, and I have to know. 607 00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:14,710 It's just that I think... I don't care what you think. 608 00:34:21,330 --> 00:34:24,929 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 609 00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:29,400 I don't miss these winters. 610 00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:32,100 Living in a warm climate makes your blood run thin. 611 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,920 Oh, that's not true, is it? 612 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,840 Have you had experiences with other DES daughters? 613 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,320 No. Well, didn't you wonder, out of all the babies you delivered? 614 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,360 The medications we prescribed were said to be safe. 615 00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:46,840 Apparently, they weren't. 616 00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:49,440 And how do you think that makes us feel, Billy? 617 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,739 Put yourself in our position. 618 00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:55,719 A woman like your mother has lost a child. 619 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,620 We were healers. 620 00:34:59,260 --> 00:35:01,740 When a patient wanted something, we tried to give it to her. 621 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,200 To help her. 622 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,820 We prescribed in good faith. 623 00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:07,740 Faith. Exactly. 624 00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:11,620 Well, there are the records. 625 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,040 Help yourself. 626 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:20,280 You know, I could have done what some of my colleagues did when they heard about 627 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,280 this. What was that? 628 00:35:21,980 --> 00:35:23,500 Lots of them destroyed their records. 629 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,420 Then there would be no way of knowing. 630 00:35:25,870 --> 00:35:27,510 And no way of being sued. 631 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:28,910 That's unbelievable. 632 00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:30,570 Well, that's the way it is. 633 00:35:31,210 --> 00:35:34,070 Well, didn't your colleagues know that they couldn't be sued for following 634 00:35:34,070 --> 00:35:37,630 standard medical practice, which was, at the time, prescribing DES? 635 00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:41,350 The public panics and doctors panic, too. 636 00:35:43,630 --> 00:35:45,070 It's gone. It's not there. 637 00:35:47,530 --> 00:35:49,530 Those files aren't in very good order. 638 00:35:49,770 --> 00:35:50,770 Keep looking. 639 00:35:55,850 --> 00:35:56,850 There it is. 640 00:35:57,630 --> 00:35:59,030 Newman. Betty Ruth. 641 00:36:01,850 --> 00:36:02,870 I'm afraid to look. 642 00:36:11,690 --> 00:36:13,190 I don't know how to find it. 643 00:36:42,350 --> 00:36:44,870 Quite right, Mr. Grant. What do we need it for? 644 00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:46,190 Quite right. 645 00:36:47,410 --> 00:36:50,730 I missed Billy Newman's byline on the Coastal Commission yesterday. 646 00:36:51,170 --> 00:36:53,730 I thought she was doing a fine job. 647 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:56,510 Yeah, Billy went home for a few days. 648 00:36:56,730 --> 00:36:57,930 I hope nothing's wrong. 649 00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:59,390 So do I. 650 00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,590 Well, you can't stop there, Mr. Grant. 651 00:37:04,570 --> 00:37:06,630 She's been doing a series on this drug, DES. 652 00:37:07,410 --> 00:37:08,990 I've been following that, too. 653 00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:10,190 What a disaster. 654 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,460 Look, she thinks her mother might have been taking it. 655 00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:14,740 Oh, no. 656 00:37:14,940 --> 00:37:15,940 Yeah. 657 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,340 She was pretty upset. 658 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,600 I wouldn't be. 659 00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:20,259 There it was. 660 00:37:20,260 --> 00:37:21,260 Still distraught. 661 00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:23,200 25 milligrams, QID. 662 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,440 That's four times a day. 663 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,880 So your mother did take the EES. 664 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,520 What does that mean for you? 665 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,680 Nobody can tell me. 666 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,360 I know I have to be checked twice a year. 667 00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:38,980 Mm -hmm. 668 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:42,350 I know it's going to stay on my mind. 669 00:37:43,610 --> 00:37:46,210 Billy, it's still better that you know. 670 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:47,890 What did your mother say? 671 00:37:49,330 --> 00:37:50,650 She's still in San Diego. 672 00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:52,910 Billy, you're back. 673 00:37:53,330 --> 00:37:54,590 What did the doctor say? 674 00:37:57,730 --> 00:38:00,290 I was telling Charlie about your story and it came up. 675 00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:06,030 Well, how many other people in this newspaper know that I might have this 676 00:38:06,030 --> 00:38:06,808 of problem? 677 00:38:06,810 --> 00:38:08,410 Sorry, Billy, I didn't mean to pry. 678 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,660 Lou only told me because he cared about you. 679 00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:16,000 Well, how's the story on the Coastal Commissioner coming? 680 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,920 Commissioner Connors resigned yesterday. 681 00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:20,440 Sweeney did a good job on the story. 682 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,040 Oh, great. 683 00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:23,680 So I missed a big story. 684 00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:27,760 Another thing's going just great in my life right now. 685 00:38:38,890 --> 00:38:40,110 The elevator's on the fritz again. 686 00:38:40,570 --> 00:38:45,230 No, I just wanted to get away. The stairwells are always empty. Well, 687 00:38:46,330 --> 00:38:50,350 If I have a choice between walking or riding, I always think it's a good idea 688 00:38:50,350 --> 00:38:51,350 get the exercise. 689 00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:54,050 I didn't know you did that. That's so sensible. 690 00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:55,470 Well, it's only been a week. 691 00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:58,470 What is it? You get bad news? 692 00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:01,090 I'm sorry. 693 00:39:02,330 --> 00:39:04,770 Mr. Grant mentioned why you went home. 694 00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:06,750 You too. 695 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:10,280 Well, the news could have been better. 696 00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:11,840 What did you find out? 697 00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:17,660 Well, my mother did take DES, but there's no indication of cancer. 698 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:19,360 Oh, what a relief. 699 00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:22,920 But you're still feeling a bit shaky, aren't you? 700 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,820 Come on, sit down here a minute. 701 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,280 I have a feeling that you're pretty damn mad. 702 00:39:32,260 --> 00:39:33,260 I am. 703 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,900 I can't believe that my mother could be so dumb. 704 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:40,090 She took one of those pills every morning with her juice. 705 00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:42,750 I can understand your being angry. 706 00:39:44,530 --> 00:39:49,070 You know, I read your story on the DES daughter. I thought it was well handled. 707 00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:52,310 You really made me see the suffering those two women went through. 708 00:39:52,830 --> 00:39:53,830 That's my job. 709 00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:58,870 But I find it hard believing I'm talking to the writer of that article. 710 00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:01,030 Why? 711 00:40:01,850 --> 00:40:05,030 Because you could understand that mother so well. 712 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,120 But you can't see what your own mother's going through. 713 00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:13,060 Miss Newman, you have to try to think what it was like when your mother was 714 00:40:13,060 --> 00:40:17,760 young. It was the age of discovery. There were wonder drugs. 715 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,200 My younger sister had pneumonia. 716 00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:25,380 Her life was saved because there was penicillin. 717 00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:28,060 Mother wasn't taking penicillin. 718 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,620 She didn't even ask the doctor what it was. 719 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:34,140 Of course not. You didn't question a man of science. 720 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,519 I guess not. 721 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,260 But it's a different world now, Miss Newman. 722 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:46,380 We've learned. We've learned some hard lessons of what we're capable of and 723 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:48,400 where we can place our faith. 724 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:51,920 I'm sure your mother's learned, too. 725 00:40:55,240 --> 00:41:01,680 Are you seated? 726 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,380 Ladies and gentlemen, both sides in this dispute have presented powerful 727 00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:14,360 arguments, which I'm afraid are irreconcilable. But there is legal 728 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,360 what I am about to rule. 729 00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:20,860 Under public policy, any contract that injures the public welfare or 730 00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:24,680 unreasonably restricts personal liberty cannot be upheld. 731 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:30,740 Now, the will in question goes beyond and goes against public policy of this 732 00:41:30,740 --> 00:41:33,300 state because it discourages marriage. 733 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:39,800 Now, the freedom to marry a person of one's own choice is a private decision 734 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,080 which we give the highest priority in this society. 735 00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:48,300 And although I sympathize and am deeply moved by the strong feelings of Mr. 736 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,820 Hartunian, I must find in favor of the plaintiff. 737 00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:56,320 This court stands adjourned. 738 00:41:58,940 --> 00:42:00,760 George, thank you very much. 739 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,040 Uncle Leon, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Please, Uncle Leon, wait. Listen 740 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,899 me. 741 00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:13,900 It's all over now. Can't we talk? Wait, Uncle Leon, please. 742 00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:16,420 From my father's memory, please talk to me. 743 00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:27,820 Now, be sure to get seats on the left side because the view to San Francisco 744 00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:30,900 spectacular. I'm sure everyone's thought of that. You know, this train may be 745 00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:32,680 listing to the left all the way up the coast. 746 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,960 Now, Paul, you told me that the train was the safest way to travel. 747 00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:37,220 But I was only kidding. 748 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:40,700 Well, it's got to be better than trying to read a map while you fight the 749 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:42,760 traffic on the freeway in a rented car. 750 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,820 Uh -oh, uh -oh, the car. 751 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,920 Guess what? 752 00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:49,560 I'll be right back. 753 00:42:53,420 --> 00:42:55,220 Next, she'll take you there to see the dancers. 754 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,780 Oh, that would be nice. 755 00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:04,380 Now, listen, I don't want you to worry about this. 756 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,459 I'm not worried. 757 00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:07,240 All it means is that I have to have checkups. 758 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,220 It's nothing serious. 759 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:12,600 Next time I have a baby, I'll know better. 760 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,280 Oh, I made you some chicken. It's in the refrigerator. Oh, Mom. 761 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,780 You can freeze it. 762 00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:20,460 Okay. 763 00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:26,380 Oh, and you will speak to your landlord about another lock on your front door. I 764 00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:27,380 will. 765 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,440 Billy, 766 00:43:33,860 --> 00:43:37,200 if you only knew how this has been eating me up. 767 00:43:37,420 --> 00:43:40,660 Mom. But to think that I could have done something to harm you. 768 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,240 Mom, when I was in Dr. 769 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:52,420 Bradley's garage and I saw in black and white that you had taken DES and I 770 00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:55,720 knew what that meant, I was so scared. 771 00:43:57,290 --> 00:44:00,530 I wanted to run to you and have you put your arms around me like you always did 772 00:44:00,530 --> 00:44:01,530 when I got bad news. 773 00:44:02,430 --> 00:44:06,830 But I was so mad at you, I couldn't even call. 774 00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:10,230 Which meant that I was alone. 775 00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:13,090 You are never alone. 776 00:44:16,410 --> 00:44:21,870 You know, all the time in San Diego, all I could think of was, if I took that 777 00:44:21,870 --> 00:44:25,530 drug and didn't know it, how many thousands of other women didn't know? 778 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,180 Yeah. That makes me mad. 779 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,840 Me too. 780 00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,180 I feel like I should do something about it. 781 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,640 Like what? 782 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,680 I don't know. 783 00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:39,260 Tell other women? 784 00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:43,140 Maybe start with the assistance league when I get home. 785 00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:46,900 You're actually going to talk to other women about this? 786 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,000 It's going to kill me. 787 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,660 Maybe I have to. 788 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,820 Those women are all my good friends. 789 00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:58,730 Maybe they just have to be a little embarrassed. 790 00:45:00,310 --> 00:45:01,310 All set. 791 00:45:06,530 --> 00:45:08,770 You have a great trip back home. We will. 792 00:45:09,150 --> 00:45:11,950 And make sure you have your coats when you get off the train. It's cold in San 793 00:45:11,950 --> 00:45:13,030 Francisco. We know. 794 00:45:13,390 --> 00:45:15,590 Pick up the phone and call me once in a while. 795 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:19,610 I love you, Mom. I love you, baby. 796 00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:23,150 Nice. Find me. 797 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,400 He was a dashing British spy and a real ladies' man, and he taught James Bond 798 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,800 everything he knows. 799 00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:00,700 Meet writer Ian Fleming and his alter ego 007 tonight on an all -new 800 00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:06,000 Now Kurt Russell stars as a country boy who hopes to corral big city criminals 801 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,800 on Police Story, next on A andE.