1 00:00:01,479 --> 00:00:04,180 Hello, I'm calling from the trip. I'd like to confirm a quote. 2 00:00:04,420 --> 00:00:07,460 How much money was it? 3 00:00:07,700 --> 00:00:08,840 Was it over $1 ,000? 4 00:00:09,580 --> 00:00:10,580 Was it over $1 ,000? 5 00:01:20,810 --> 00:01:23,390 It was one of those Sundays when you don't want to heat up the kitchen. 6 00:01:23,870 --> 00:01:26,990 And making a sandwich only reminds you you're cooking for one. 7 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:29,730 So I figured I'd heat up Phil's kitchen. 8 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:33,290 I didn't realize half of Echo Park had the same idea. 9 00:01:35,770 --> 00:01:36,770 There you go, sir. 10 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,120 A little hot sauce for you? 11 00:01:38,180 --> 00:01:41,440 Look, I can give you your slaw now. Do you want your slaw? I think my hatch is 12 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,399 ready still, really. 13 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Lou, will you please hold your horses? Your hatch isn't even on the grill yet. 14 00:01:46,180 --> 00:01:48,700 No one can accuse you of serving fast food, I'll say that. 15 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Yeah, I know, I know. Look, my dishwasher didn't show up this morning. 16 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,360 nobody to bust the tables over there. I got nobody to run this food across the 17 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,360 street to Mrs. Polk. 18 00:01:56,580 --> 00:01:59,580 Hey, Lou, could you help me out for a minute? 19 00:02:00,340 --> 00:02:01,340 I won't wash dishes. 20 00:02:01,620 --> 00:02:03,620 No, no, no, no, no. Just ring up the tabs, huh? 21 00:02:04,510 --> 00:02:07,650 Okay. All right. Now, look, don't give out any of those new dollars for 22 00:02:07,650 --> 00:02:11,710 quarters, and never press this button here. That's a Mount Tender. It always 23 00:02:11,710 --> 00:02:13,450 sticks. And, Lou, 24 00:02:14,610 --> 00:02:17,690 would you run this across for me, please? Right upstairs above the Mexican 25 00:02:17,690 --> 00:02:18,690 restaurant. 26 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:21,270 Okay. Thanks, thanks. 27 00:02:21,770 --> 00:02:27,050 Oh, and by the way, Lou, when you get up there, knock three times, put down the 28 00:02:27,050 --> 00:02:28,230 tray, and then leave. 29 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:31,390 Put my hash on the grill. I will, I will. 30 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,360 Just go about your business. 31 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,040 I'm sorry. 32 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:27,800 Yeah, I've been serving Mrs. Cloak three meals a day for 17 years, Lou. 33 00:03:28,140 --> 00:03:29,280 What is she, sick or something? 34 00:03:29,540 --> 00:03:31,040 I don't know. I've never seen her. 35 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,040 But the couple that owned this place before me, they used to feed her, too. 36 00:03:35,380 --> 00:03:37,880 Free? No, no. I'd bill her once a month. 37 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,480 That restaurant sure is a nice one. 38 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,200 Oh, baby Duarte's, yeah. 39 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,280 You know, she owns the place. Pays taxes on it every year, but she won't lease 40 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,740 it out. I made a run at her a couple of years ago, but she wouldn't budge. 41 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,820 Was there really a baby Duarte? 42 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,600 Oh, yeah, yeah, a Filipino kid. Pretty fair little fighter for his time, too. 43 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,380 I think, though, he'd just lend his name for the joint, you know. 44 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Diner. 45 00:04:03,060 --> 00:04:04,060 Oh, yeah, Mrs. Pope. 46 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,080 What do you mean? 47 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:08,180 Did you call the police? 48 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,140 We'll do that right away. I'll be over and check. 49 00:04:11,049 --> 00:04:12,530 Lou, she's hearing noises downstairs. 50 00:04:12,770 --> 00:04:13,770 Do you want to give me a hand? 51 00:04:20,450 --> 00:04:21,450 Hey! 52 00:04:21,950 --> 00:04:22,950 Hey, 53 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:25,470 you kids! Hold it! Hey! 54 00:04:26,930 --> 00:04:27,930 I'll check inside! 55 00:04:28,350 --> 00:04:29,350 Okay. 56 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:35,040 I was just checking to make sure everything's all right. 57 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:36,820 Nothing is all right. 58 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:39,320 Get out. It's not safe down there. 59 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,620 Baby Duarte's Cantina. Yeah. 60 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,180 It's where I always asked to go eat when I was a kid. 61 00:05:50,540 --> 00:05:52,720 I wanted to see the baby I thought ran the place. 62 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Well, nothing seen as you were there, except for three inches of dust. 63 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,860 They'd have me sit on a phone book. 64 00:05:59,140 --> 00:06:01,260 Waiter would yell, hot plate, when he served the food. 65 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,060 Still there, huh? Mm -hmm. You gotta love this theater. 66 00:06:04,460 --> 00:06:06,040 I don't think you're the only one. 67 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:08,100 Why don't you get some shots of the place? 68 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,440 Oh, good. 69 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,960 He could shoot color and pitch it to the Sunday magazine. 70 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:18,200 You shoot in black and white for us. Let the fifth floor come up with their own 71 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,420 ideas. Sure. Well, stay out on the street or the sidewalk. 72 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,960 Sounds like the story's inside. 73 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:24,520 Don't trespass, animal. 74 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:26,480 The lady who lives there is easily spooked. 75 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 was inside. 76 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,720 When he saw Phil deliver lunch, he decided to deliver dinner. 77 00:06:58,260 --> 00:06:59,520 He tried flour. 78 00:07:16,460 --> 00:07:17,460 He tried music. 79 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:29,920 He 80 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:36,920 tried egg 81 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:37,920 foo young. 82 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:42,520 After 30 years of diner food, he figured Mrs. Polk would like a change. 83 00:08:15,660 --> 00:08:17,040 I'm always right about that, too. 84 00:09:09,130 --> 00:09:12,210 These pictures definitely touch off a lot of memories for me. 85 00:09:12,490 --> 00:09:13,469 Oh, yeah. 86 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:15,810 Did you ever see Baby Duarte fight, Mrs. Pichard? 87 00:09:16,030 --> 00:09:18,190 I was his sparring partner for years. 88 00:09:18,570 --> 00:09:23,690 Now, I remember your husband was a fight fan from way back. I figured maybe you 89 00:09:23,690 --> 00:09:24,950 got dragged along sometimes. 90 00:09:26,110 --> 00:09:30,230 Matthew never dragged me to prize fights. I never dragged him to canasta 91 00:09:30,230 --> 00:09:31,230 tournaments. 92 00:09:31,410 --> 00:09:34,390 In those days, they're qualified as an open marriage. 93 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:37,810 I went to the fights in Detroit. 94 00:09:38,410 --> 00:09:42,530 I never heard of Baby Duarte. Well, he hardly ever fought outside L .A. 95 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:45,970 But for a time here, he owned the town. 96 00:09:46,290 --> 00:09:49,090 His cantina was pretty popular with movie people. 97 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:52,310 Apparently, the food was come see, come saw. 98 00:09:52,770 --> 00:09:54,970 But celebrities were comfortable there. 99 00:09:55,410 --> 00:09:57,010 Geez, Baby was quick. 100 00:09:57,650 --> 00:10:00,670 Not much of a punch, but he'd kill you with those little flurries. 101 00:10:01,530 --> 00:10:03,190 That's what I remember best about him. 102 00:10:03,770 --> 00:10:04,770 Funny. 103 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:12,390 What I remember best about Baby Duarte was his death 30 years 104 00:10:12,390 --> 00:10:15,170 ago at his restaurant. 105 00:10:16,170 --> 00:10:17,170 Murdered. 106 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:32,070 Baby's final round, old boy. Baby tells agents, 107 00:10:32,250 --> 00:10:34,670 quote, you don't own my soul. 108 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:41,230 Director Moran claims I could have killed Baby, but I didn't. 109 00:10:41,650 --> 00:10:42,650 What a rag. 110 00:10:42,870 --> 00:10:45,270 Can you believe a paper would print this junk? 111 00:10:45,550 --> 00:10:47,510 Can you believe our paper would print this junk? 112 00:10:47,950 --> 00:10:49,950 A little lowbrow for your taste, Rossi. 113 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:52,950 It's like finding out your father picked pockets for a living. 114 00:10:53,230 --> 00:10:54,230 What are you talking about? 115 00:10:54,590 --> 00:10:57,530 The screaming headlines, the gossip, the scummy style. 116 00:10:57,970 --> 00:11:01,670 You two want to do an update on this murder? Would you prefer to sit around 117 00:11:01,670 --> 00:11:03,770 -mouthing your colleagues of past years? 118 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,380 Okay, okay. I would like to talk to Thea Taft. Her byline's on practically all 119 00:11:08,380 --> 00:11:09,680 of it. Is she still around? 120 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:15,080 Is she? Thea was city editor here in the 50s. Every time the competition beats 121 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,840 us on one, she gives me a call. We've never met except on the phone. 122 00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:20,220 But I bet I could persuade her to come down here and talk. 123 00:11:21,140 --> 00:11:25,800 Listen, I told Matthew Pynchon the day he pinned that stinking orchid on me and 124 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:26,980 handed me my pension. 125 00:11:27,380 --> 00:11:29,280 That's come around begging to have me back. 126 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:31,340 Get off your knees, Grant. 127 00:11:32,060 --> 00:11:33,720 I'm not changing my mind. 128 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Come on, Thea. 129 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:38,140 I just thought you'd get a kick out of seeing how the city room had changed. 130 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,000 You mean the bars are off the windows? 131 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Sure. I guess you heard we're all using computers now. 132 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,580 I don't care if you're typing the trib on flapjacks and selling with melted 133 00:11:47,580 --> 00:11:48,580 butter. 134 00:11:48,740 --> 00:11:49,960 I'm not coming in. 135 00:11:50,340 --> 00:11:51,760 Listen, Thea. Thea. 136 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,440 We're doing an update on the baby Duarte story. 137 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,719 No kidding. 138 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,680 Yeah, one of my reporters, Billy Newman. Sure, sure. I read her. 139 00:11:59,020 --> 00:12:00,600 Well, she can use a little background. 140 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:03,160 Can she come see you? Who's in charge of the story? 141 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Me. Send her over. 142 00:12:05,060 --> 00:12:09,080 And if you don't want to be an ignorant jackass about Baby's murder, you better 143 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,080 come too. 144 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:11,920 The offer was irresistible. 145 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,260 So Billy and I skipped lunch that day and swung over to Glendale to meet Thea 146 00:12:16,260 --> 00:12:17,260 Taft. 147 00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:18,900 Come in. 148 00:12:22,980 --> 00:12:24,420 This is dog you got there. 149 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:29,560 Thea, this had better be good. 150 00:12:29,820 --> 00:12:31,320 It's all a matter of who writes it. 151 00:12:32,239 --> 00:12:33,239 Holy smoke. 152 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,540 You look just like you sound. 153 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:36,840 So do you, kid. 154 00:12:37,460 --> 00:12:38,460 This is Billy Newman. 155 00:12:38,660 --> 00:12:39,659 Sure, sure. 156 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:41,140 Hi, Miss Taft. See you, honey. 157 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,440 Glad to meet you. 158 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:43,760 Sit down, sit down. 159 00:12:44,780 --> 00:12:47,780 Slide that case over here, will you? Sure. 160 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,400 So you two stumbled on the baby Duarte case again, huh? 161 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,420 Well, Lou saw the cantina and it got us wondering. 162 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,960 I covered the back value. 163 00:13:00,970 --> 00:13:04,950 I covered the trunk murders at the Union Station and the zookeeper stabbings. 164 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:08,170 But Baby's murder was a lulu. 165 00:13:08,410 --> 00:13:10,710 Why? Because it was Baby. 166 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:15,570 Everybody loved Baby. 167 00:13:16,610 --> 00:13:20,270 He was born in Manila. Came to California when he was 15. 168 00:13:20,910 --> 00:13:23,490 He had a record of 64 and 3. 169 00:13:24,410 --> 00:13:26,850 Only 4 of the wins were by knockouts. 170 00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:28,990 What a smile, like a baby. 171 00:13:29,770 --> 00:13:31,070 A sweet, sweet man. 172 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:33,610 How's the cantina? 173 00:13:34,350 --> 00:13:36,990 Built by Polk in 1937. 174 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:40,090 Renamed after Baby became a partner in 41. 175 00:13:41,190 --> 00:13:43,370 Henry Polk died right after VJ Day. 176 00:13:44,430 --> 00:13:46,930 Baby let Mrs. Polk continue to live upstairs. 177 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:48,970 That's the kind of a guy he was. 178 00:13:49,790 --> 00:13:50,970 Laura Sinclair. 179 00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:53,350 The girl with the come -hither smile. 180 00:13:56,210 --> 00:13:58,470 Sure, I remember her pictures. 181 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,980 Uh, the house on the square. 182 00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:03,500 Flowers for a duchess. 183 00:14:03,820 --> 00:14:06,960 Yeah. We all wore that bright red lipstick then. 184 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:09,120 And white gloves everywhere. 185 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:11,700 I guess they still got two dozen pairs. 186 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,600 That stinking lipstick came off on everything. 187 00:14:15,060 --> 00:14:17,720 Still, it's so bold. It's kind of exotic. 188 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:21,300 Yeah. We were all exotic as hell in those days. 189 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,280 Weren't we, Lou? I used to wear an orchid behind my ear. 190 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,960 So? Laura Sinclair arrived that night at the cantina with two men. 191 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,940 Lee Wittenberg, her agent, rumored to be her lover. 192 00:14:35,060 --> 00:14:39,940 And Kenneth Holmes, her other agent, rumored to be her lover. 193 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:42,580 Ooh. You ain't heard nothing. 194 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,420 Wittenberg died in 59. 195 00:14:44,980 --> 00:14:48,220 I never saw no bit on Holmes, so I guess he's still around. 196 00:14:49,140 --> 00:14:52,220 He's... Art Moran, known as the Wild Man. 197 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,000 Directed over 150 pictures. 198 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:56,610 What was his connection to the other three? 199 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:58,610 Well, they'd all worked together. 200 00:14:58,930 --> 00:15:02,910 They all knew Baby, and they were all at the cantina the night of the murder. 201 00:15:03,290 --> 00:15:05,090 Did they all have a motive? Maybe. 202 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:11,430 Laura Sinclair arrived at the cantina at midnight with both agents on her arm, 203 00:15:11,530 --> 00:15:12,570 raring to go. 204 00:15:13,150 --> 00:15:14,470 That was when the trouble began. 205 00:15:15,610 --> 00:15:17,990 Baby kissed Laura, or vice versa. 206 00:15:18,270 --> 00:15:19,270 What kind of a kiss? 207 00:15:19,450 --> 00:15:20,450 Well, who knows? 208 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:22,510 But both agents took it bad. 209 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,240 I heard there was a brawl. Was that when it started? 210 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,320 No. That was with the director, Wild Man Moran. 211 00:15:28,580 --> 00:15:32,000 He stumbled in, three sheets of the wind, demanding a beer. 212 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,440 Baby wouldn't serve him. 213 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:37,740 The wild man called him a lot of names and then pitched a bottle of Tabasco at 214 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:41,340 him. Then he charged Baby, head down, catching him in the stomach. 215 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,500 That's when I think Baby figured that he didn't care if the cops considered his 216 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:46,900 fists lethal weapons. 217 00:15:47,260 --> 00:15:50,540 He laid the wild man out, neat as can be. 218 00:15:51,210 --> 00:15:52,370 In front of their customers. 219 00:15:52,630 --> 00:15:55,290 Right. Next thing we know, it's 3 .45 in the morning. 220 00:15:55,790 --> 00:15:58,090 Mrs. Polk wakens to the sound of a shot. 221 00:15:58,550 --> 00:16:04,110 She calls the police, and they find Baby sitting in that booth. He's sat on the 222 00:16:04,110 --> 00:16:05,270 table, dead. 223 00:16:06,990 --> 00:16:12,110 Lieutenant Bill Bergen hadn't worked for the LAPD for 10 years, but he still had 224 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:16,430 pull. He came in from his house trailer in Long Pine to meet Rossi in the police 225 00:16:16,430 --> 00:16:17,430 property room. 226 00:16:18,170 --> 00:16:20,010 Watery Homicide was one of my first cases. 227 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,380 I took a lot of grief from your paper one that didn't get solved. 228 00:16:23,060 --> 00:16:25,540 It's always the one you don't solve that they try to hang you with. 229 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,520 Seems like a lot of Hollywood murders go unsolved. 230 00:16:28,820 --> 00:16:31,300 Thelma Todd, William Desmond Taylor, Thomas Ince. 231 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,700 Hey, son, stop looking at me like that. 232 00:16:34,420 --> 00:16:36,620 I never handled anything before talkies. 233 00:16:38,540 --> 00:16:42,060 How do I... They're no more organized now than they were in my day. 234 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,500 Oh. Okay. 235 00:16:46,220 --> 00:16:47,220 Here we go. 236 00:16:54,990 --> 00:16:57,010 You don't find much evidence when a professional does the job. 237 00:17:01,370 --> 00:17:03,170 What makes you think this was hired out? 238 00:17:03,410 --> 00:17:05,030 Well, it wasn't any of the movie people. 239 00:17:05,890 --> 00:17:08,730 I mean, guys who know their glove size don't shoot price fighters. 240 00:17:09,089 --> 00:17:10,109 They have it done for. 241 00:17:12,190 --> 00:17:13,609 There we are, one coffee mug. 242 00:17:15,390 --> 00:17:17,589 The number two pencil, the chewed on the end. 243 00:17:19,450 --> 00:17:20,450 Bloodslide, the victims. 244 00:17:23,630 --> 00:17:24,630 It's a bullet. 245 00:17:27,819 --> 00:17:29,320 22 automatic, no prints. 246 00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:34,000 And a produce order form. 247 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,400 That's it. 248 00:17:36,340 --> 00:17:39,280 So who do you figure hired this hitman? 249 00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:41,040 It could have been any of them. 250 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,060 My guess is it was the girl. 251 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:45,300 Laura Sinclair? 252 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,140 Sure. She used to go out with that type. 253 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:49,620 Men with underworld connections. 254 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:52,300 Goons. 255 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:55,980 The girl was top -heavy with class. 256 00:17:57,370 --> 00:17:59,250 Why would she want baby Duarte killed? 257 00:18:00,390 --> 00:18:02,410 Well, he embarrassed her boyfriend, Wittenberg. 258 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:07,490 Now, my guess is she asked one of her meatball pals to teach baby a lesson. 259 00:18:07,930 --> 00:18:09,170 And the dope overdid it. 260 00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:13,310 She cracked up after a few months and ended up in a nut house in Illinois or 261 00:18:13,310 --> 00:18:14,970 someplace. And, well, that's that. 262 00:18:17,410 --> 00:18:21,610 Laura Sinclair asked one boyfriend who was a hood to defend the honor of 263 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:24,810 boyfriend, an agent, who killed a third boyfriend, a fighter. 264 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:26,070 Does that make sense? 265 00:18:28,330 --> 00:18:29,930 How long have you lived in L .A., son? 266 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:36,370 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 267 00:18:38,550 --> 00:18:40,370 I love having friends over. 268 00:18:41,850 --> 00:18:44,430 A andE return to Lou Grant. 269 00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:48,630 Animal, Ross is looking for you. 270 00:18:52,650 --> 00:18:55,610 Where have you been? I'm ready to talk to that crazy widow that lives over at 271 00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:57,490 the Mexican restaurant. Got an address and phone on her? 272 00:18:57,690 --> 00:18:59,910 I don't know, Ross. She kind of trusts me. 273 00:19:00,210 --> 00:19:02,070 Wouldn't it make more sense for me to do the interview? 274 00:19:02,670 --> 00:19:03,670 I don't know. 275 00:19:03,870 --> 00:19:05,750 My job is work. That's what I'm paid to do. 276 00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:09,250 You're paid for pictures, so why don't you just let me do what I'm paid to do? 277 00:19:15,930 --> 00:19:16,930 Mrs. 278 00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:20,770 Polk, I work with Dennis Price. 279 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,600 a photographer at the Tribune. 280 00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:27,360 And he had such nice things to say about you and the cantina. And the picture 281 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,640 series we ran was such a wonderful success. 282 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,360 Dennis and I thought, well, let's ask Mrs. Polk if she'll reminisce a little. 283 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:40,420 Tell us what it was like when Los Angeles was such a great place to live. 284 00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:42,540 red street cars, the orange groves. 285 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,720 Right, Mrs. Polk? 286 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:49,220 What we have here is a fairly common problem. 287 00:19:49,610 --> 00:19:52,930 What you think of as your right to privacy versus the public's right to 288 00:19:53,050 --> 00:19:56,830 Now, in several important court cases over the past few years, the press has 289 00:19:56,830 --> 00:19:59,650 succeeded in demonstrating we're well within our rights. I realize, of course, 290 00:19:59,730 --> 00:20:03,430 you have no way of knowing about these legal precedents. I know about 291 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:06,870 trespassing laws. Get off my property. 292 00:20:10,130 --> 00:20:13,290 Do you remember when McKenna's used to squeeze its orange juice fresh? 293 00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:17,310 My first day here, the county staff took me down to McKenna's for a screwdriver 294 00:20:17,310 --> 00:20:18,770 with fresh orange juice. 295 00:20:19,340 --> 00:20:21,180 Sounds good. Out of this world. 296 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,520 When did they stop doing that? I guess. 297 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,380 When did they get rid of the orange groves in the valley? 298 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:32,500 Whatever happened to the eucalyptus trees along Melrose? 299 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,720 Why do I sound like a 90 -year -old man? 300 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,860 You know, what surprises me is that so much of the town is still here. 301 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Remember those donut places shaped like coffee mugs? 302 00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:49,370 I saw one the other day. Now it's a dry cleaner shaped like a coffee mug. But 303 00:20:49,370 --> 00:20:53,870 you see, the old L .A. is still here, just under the surface. But you've got 304 00:20:53,870 --> 00:20:54,870 look for it. 305 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:59,910 Animal, you can go and try and talk to that crazy Mrs. Pope, but don't expect 306 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:03,450 get any. Whatever you did last time turned her off reporters totally. 307 00:21:10,490 --> 00:21:11,490 Mrs. Pope? 308 00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:31,860 May I take your hat? 309 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,800 This is very nice. Real, uh, California style, you know? 310 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,040 Yes, it's comfortable. 311 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,180 I had a house full of furniture in Wilmington, but this is... When in Rome, 312 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,280 right? 313 00:21:57,460 --> 00:21:58,460 Nice. 314 00:22:04,419 --> 00:22:05,660 Wilmington? In Delaware? 315 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:09,020 Yes, that's where Mr. Polk and I met. 316 00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:14,280 I was hoping to tape record our conversation. When I take notes, it 317 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,420 hard to really listen to everything. 318 00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:16,780 What's that? 319 00:22:18,260 --> 00:22:21,140 It's a little tape recorder. 320 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Oh, yes. 321 00:22:26,180 --> 00:22:28,960 If you ask me what makes it work, I'm up a crick. 322 00:22:30,410 --> 00:22:31,410 Please don't try. 323 00:22:31,770 --> 00:22:34,070 Mr. Polk tried to explain radio to me. 324 00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:36,170 All it did was spoil a good meal. 325 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:43,570 May I ask you about the night baby Duarte died? 326 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:45,930 I guess so. 327 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:47,710 What do you want to know? 328 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:51,870 Well, the Hollywood people involved with baby. 329 00:22:52,410 --> 00:22:53,910 I didn't know the movie people. 330 00:22:54,130 --> 00:22:55,950 They were a very fast crowd. 331 00:22:56,770 --> 00:22:57,990 But baby... 332 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,060 Baby, being in boxing and all, he thought they were something special. 333 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,580 And they probably thought he was fun to run with, too. 334 00:23:05,220 --> 00:23:06,460 Were you down there that night? 335 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,400 No. 336 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,560 No. 337 00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:11,680 When was the last time you saw him? 338 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,620 In the afternoon when I totaled the receipts. 339 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,460 I used to do the books for the cantina. 340 00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:20,960 Baby couldn't stand anything that was sit -down work. 341 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,540 I thought it was the least that I could do. 342 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,800 Now, you were the one who found the body. 343 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,560 I was asleep. 344 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:34,220 I guess it was the gunshot that woke me up. 345 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,240 But I didn't hear it. 346 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,860 I came in here and I went over to the window. 347 00:23:41,660 --> 00:23:42,840 And I looked down. 348 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,040 The baby was in the back booth. 349 00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:48,300 Falling over the table. 350 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,560 I got dressed and went down. 351 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,080 He was dead. 352 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,940 The police came. 353 00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:56,180 The ambulance. 354 00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:58,100 He was dead. 355 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,080 Did you see anyone? 356 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,140 Isn't that a pitiful thing? 357 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Worrying about dressing at a time like that. 358 00:24:05,620 --> 00:24:08,920 The police said baby died right off. I couldn't have done anything. 359 00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:10,380 But still. 360 00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:11,960 It's understandable. 361 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:14,060 I'm so ashamed. 362 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,360 I guess it was the way I was raised. 363 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:19,780 You can't help how you were raised. 364 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:22,680 The cantina, it's been closed since then. 365 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,660 No. The police finished their investigation and I opened it. 366 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,960 That was wrong, too. 367 00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:34,940 Nobody came. Everybody came. Everybody came to see where baby died. 368 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,780 The bus tours. 369 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,620 Everything. One day I came down. There were 12 people waiting. 370 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:42,180 At 10 in the morning. 371 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,920 Buzzards. 372 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,940 I turned around. I came back up here. I haven't been down since. 373 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Do you sometimes wish you'd sold the place, moved back east? 374 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 I loved him. 375 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,000 Cantina was his life. 376 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,240 Baby? 377 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,300 Mr. Polk, my husband. 378 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,220 Baby loved Cantina, too. 379 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,520 I've let them both down. 380 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,180 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 381 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,680 This is Steel Wool on a tip to Lou Grant. 382 00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:20,800 Florence Sinclair was on the tube that night. 383 00:25:21,580 --> 00:25:24,920 I'd been working late and decided to check out the competition on the 11 o 384 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,920 'clock news. 385 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,520 I must not have been paying attention because the next thing I knew, I looked 386 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,900 and there she was. 387 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,560 A girl with a come hither smile. 388 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,580 The picture was called The Empty Hour. 389 00:25:38,180 --> 00:25:41,420 I first saw it at Fort Dix a couple of days before we shipped out. 390 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,420 She played a girl who worked in an apartment store. 391 00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:48,740 And the last scene was on the Staten Island Ferry in the pouring rain. 392 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,520 She had on one of those sensible wartime hats that kept her face dry. 393 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,320 So she started crying. 394 00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:58,100 What a face. 395 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,120 Morning, Lou. 396 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,780 Morning. I got some pictures from Thea. 397 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,340 And she sent this along for you. 398 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,680 That's nice. 399 00:26:23,020 --> 00:26:26,800 boils down to is, of the four major suspects, two are dead. 400 00:26:27,260 --> 00:26:30,120 Laura Sinclair and one of her agents, Lee Wittenberg. 401 00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:34,320 The two are still alive and both of them in L .A. The director, Wildman Moran, 402 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,640 and the other agent, Kenneth Holmes. 403 00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:39,040 Plus, Laura Sinclair's best friend is still around. I think I got a local 404 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,659 on her. 405 00:26:39,660 --> 00:26:43,520 Who? Her name's Coral Mayberry. She was her wardrobe lady. When Sinclair started 406 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,880 cracking up, Coral Mayberry took a lot of abuse. 407 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:48,280 Where'd you get that? I read it. Where? Screen Stories magazine. 408 00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:51,200 I don't think she's kidding. 409 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000 It's a good lead. 410 00:26:53,020 --> 00:26:56,540 And it's all yours, Billy. You have exclusive claim to all fan magazines. 411 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,280 So, what do you think, Charlie? 412 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Does it make an interesting, nice little where -are -they -now story? 413 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:06,340 That takes two reporters and one photographer and will add up to a 414 00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:08,340 amusing trot down memory lane. 415 00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:12,640 We got a lot of good mail on animals' pictures of the cantina. I just wish 416 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,000 were more substance to it all. 417 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,520 There is. 418 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,600 How so? 419 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,900 The lady who lives above the cantina. 420 00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:25,390 really hurt dory it's what 30 years since her husband's partner died down 421 00:27:25,390 --> 00:27:32,090 and her life is just suspended she's haunted charlie she's frightened when i 422 00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:36,350 in the cantina she said it wasn't safe i really wish we could make some sense 423 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:40,010 out of baby doherty's murder because now i've seen mrs poke and i think she 424 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:46,510 really needs to know not bad angle that's a honey 425 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:47,770 go do it 426 00:27:52,510 --> 00:27:55,190 Rossi had been tracking down tough interviews half his life. 427 00:27:55,850 --> 00:27:57,650 Wild man Moran was still working. 428 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:59,550 Now Rossi knew how to find him. 429 00:27:59,950 --> 00:28:01,110 Excuse me, Mr. Moran. 430 00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:06,210 Mr. 431 00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:08,810 Moran? 432 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:10,510 We ready? 433 00:28:10,790 --> 00:28:13,950 I don't know. My name's Joe Rossi. I'm a reporter for the Trib. I called 434 00:28:13,950 --> 00:28:15,410 earlier. Oh, sure. 435 00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:17,110 I thought you were an assistant directly. 436 00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:19,710 You're looking younger to me all the time. Let's find a place to sit down. 437 00:28:19,910 --> 00:28:20,910 Uh... 438 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:24,710 Thank you for talking to me. I've done it a million times, no problem. 439 00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:29,210 And, of course, if you could say a few kind words about Josh Walker, M .D., so 440 00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:32,210 much the better. I'm afraid I can't promise that kind of trade -off. I'm 441 00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:33,810 I'll survive. 442 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:36,890 Personally, though, I think it's a pretty good show. I don't get a chance 443 00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:40,150 watch much television, but... Yeah, well, if the networks weren't all scared 444 00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:43,650 that, the violence, maybe we could work a little action into this. Yak, yak, 445 00:28:43,690 --> 00:28:46,650 yak. Besides, my stuntman pals are starving to death. 446 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:48,830 Okay. 447 00:28:48,990 --> 00:28:49,990 What can I tell you? 448 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,260 Can you tell me about the night of Baby Duarte's murder? What were you doing in 449 00:28:53,260 --> 00:28:54,260 the cantina? 450 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,840 Well, my wife tossed me out of the house, so that meant spending the night 451 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,900 the athletic club in Hollywood. 452 00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:06,660 So I'm tilting along Las Palmas. I had this big Buick convertible. Boy, can you 453 00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:09,040 imagine what that'd be worth today if I'd held on to it? I'll say. 454 00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:12,280 So there's Baby's place, as big as life, and I go on in. 455 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:16,100 Now, the food at Baby's was never the best, of course. 456 00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:19,020 Here he is from the Philippines, and what does he know about tamales? 457 00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:22,100 But in those days, nobody was eating raw fish the way they do now. 458 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,740 Was Baby there when you arrived? 459 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,760 Oh, sure. He gave me a slap on the back and a combination plate. 460 00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:30,820 But he won't draw me a beer. 461 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,140 So I tell him it'll clear my head. 462 00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:36,640 But Baby doesn't see it that way, so I take a poke at him. 463 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,980 Did Baby fight back? He couldn't, could he? 464 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,060 Ah, Baby and me mixed it up a dozen times. 465 00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:44,460 He didn't want to be seen taking on an amateur in public. 466 00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:47,610 knew me, knew I was an amateur in name only. 467 00:29:47,850 --> 00:29:50,390 My rights have been busted so many times I couldn't even hurt you. 468 00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:52,790 But 30 years ago, I wasn't so bad. 469 00:29:53,310 --> 00:29:57,030 So Baby Duarte kind of humiliated you in public. 470 00:30:00,030 --> 00:30:01,030 Listen, son. 471 00:30:01,670 --> 00:30:02,750 I didn't kill Baby. 472 00:30:03,950 --> 00:30:04,950 We were pals. 473 00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:11,530 You know that sob sister on your paper, that taft dame? She never understood 474 00:30:11,530 --> 00:30:14,910 that. My wife could never get into her noggin. But the cops, 475 00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:16,980 They do. 476 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,440 Men understand. 477 00:30:19,420 --> 00:30:20,620 And Laura Sinclair? 478 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,880 Poor dame, she went off for a rocker, died in some nut house in Iowa. 479 00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:28,320 Were the two of you ever involved? 480 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:35,060 I'm a drinker's son, not a chaser. Been married 40 years and never went after 481 00:30:35,060 --> 00:30:36,059 another woman. 482 00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:38,260 Where were you at 3 o 'clock the morning of the murder? 483 00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:41,340 I don't know. 484 00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:45,100 Fortunately, the attendant at the athletic club... 485 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,800 I remember Ken Holmes checking me in. I guess he thought I was too drunk to 486 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,080 drive. He probably was. 487 00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:54,860 Next thing I know, it's Sunday night, and the cops are pounding on my door. 488 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,480 That's all she wrote. 489 00:30:59,220 --> 00:31:02,880 You know, when I got the go -ahead to come see you, I suddenly thought, 490 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,799 I wear? 491 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,480 You look real cute, honey. Just stay away from red. 492 00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:08,460 Oh, right, and big prints. 493 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Uh -huh. 494 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,840 Well, it's nice to know my mother's steered me right all these years. 495 00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:17,690 You were very close to Laura Sinclair. 496 00:31:18,090 --> 00:31:19,090 That's right. 497 00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:22,050 I've only seen pictures of her. 498 00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:26,630 It's kind of hard to tell what kind of a person she was from just photographs. 499 00:31:27,130 --> 00:31:30,410 Laura Sinclair was a very beautiful girl, but fragile. 500 00:31:31,630 --> 00:31:33,210 Have you ever seen a gardenia? 501 00:31:33,410 --> 00:31:37,550 Sure. Not for ages, though. Well, florists don't like to stalk them 502 00:31:37,550 --> 00:31:38,790 turn brown on them so fast. 503 00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:43,310 When you find a beautiful girl like Laura Sinclair, you better make use of 504 00:31:43,310 --> 00:31:45,510 now because she's not going to be around for long. 505 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:51,210 Didn't she have some kind of a nervous breakdown shortly after the baby Duarte 506 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:54,070 murder? End came fairly fast, poor girl. 507 00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:58,530 She appeared to become very hostile to you in particular. 508 00:32:00,010 --> 00:32:01,010 I suppose. 509 00:32:01,230 --> 00:32:03,550 Why do you figure she was so cruel to her closest friend? 510 00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:08,030 Didn't she make some kind of a scene about you in front of the crew? 511 00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:13,660 I'm not going to say anything bad about Laura. She's gone. 512 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:15,880 Gone? Gone where? 513 00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:19,520 She's no longer with us. 514 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,180 Speak plain, Miss Mayberry. 515 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:25,180 Is she dead? 516 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,920 I don't want you to have to lie, so let me help you. 517 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,320 Laura Sinclair went back to Indiana and checked into a private sanitarium in 518 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,760 February of 1948. 519 00:32:41,740 --> 00:32:46,200 The hospital administrators denied that she died there. They've been denying 520 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,640 that for 30 years. 521 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,380 You know what I think? 522 00:32:51,580 --> 00:32:53,640 I think that Laura Sinclair is still alive. 523 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,880 Back home, safe, in a hospital. 524 00:32:57,460 --> 00:33:01,080 Still fighting whatever goblins put her there in the first place. 525 00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:03,700 Let it be. 526 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,300 There was a murder, Miss Mayberry. 527 00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:08,380 Exactly. 528 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:09,900 Let it be. 529 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,060 Rossi drew the assignment to interview Kenneth Holmes, one of Laura Sinclair's 530 00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:27,680 agents. He set it up for a Sunday afternoon, which seemed like a dumb idea 531 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,680 me. 532 00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:32,170 It looked even dumber when a chemical warehouse blew and Rossi got called in 533 00:33:32,170 --> 00:33:33,170 Norwalk. 534 00:33:33,250 --> 00:33:37,010 I got stuck with trying to dig up someone else to meet Holmes on a Sunday 535 00:33:37,010 --> 00:33:38,010 afternoon. 536 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:39,430 It wasn't easy. 537 00:33:42,790 --> 00:33:46,530 We cleared up the fact that those kids weren't his and that I wasn't Rossi. 538 00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:50,730 It turns out Holmes goes to all the Dodger games and sometimes takes the 539 00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:51,730 neighborhood with him. 540 00:33:51,810 --> 00:33:52,809 Mind if we walk? 541 00:33:52,810 --> 00:33:54,430 I've got to get in by three miles. 542 00:33:55,210 --> 00:33:56,210 Sure. 543 00:33:57,090 --> 00:33:58,090 Pay it hard. 544 00:33:59,690 --> 00:34:02,710 Well, I had heard that about agents, but I had no idea it was true. 545 00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:07,770 Well, I had to quit my business 20 years ago. 546 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:09,768 Doctor's orders. 547 00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:10,909 Who ran the agency? 548 00:34:11,310 --> 00:34:12,310 Oh, my partner, Lee. 549 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:15,810 Until he dropped dead on Beverly Boulevard on October 59. 550 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:19,530 I remember because I was back in Chicago watching the series. 551 00:34:21,489 --> 00:34:22,949 It's ironic, isn't it? 552 00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:25,550 You've got the bad heart and he's the one who dies. 553 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:31,719 I'm just glad that I'm still the one that's around to enjoy the idea. 554 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:33,100 Yes. 555 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,520 Can we talk about Baby Duarte's murder? 556 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,600 All right. 557 00:34:37,860 --> 00:34:42,719 Why did your partner pick that fight with Baby? Was he jealous about Laura 558 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,800 Sinclair? Oh, Laura was a lovely girl, but the way she fooled around, you could 559 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,340 spend half your life being jealous. 560 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,159 Lee wasn't jealous, and neither was I. 561 00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:54,820 But your relationship with Baby was tense that night. 562 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,130 Correct. Why? 563 00:34:57,770 --> 00:35:01,090 Well, my partner was a good businessman, sometimes too good. 564 00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:04,210 We each had a piece of baby and several other fighters. 565 00:35:04,510 --> 00:35:08,730 Whatever the deal was that Lee made, baby began to feel cheated. 566 00:35:09,350 --> 00:35:10,750 He was getting ready to sue? 567 00:35:10,990 --> 00:35:15,190 Well, he claimed he would get our other fighters to join him. 568 00:35:15,950 --> 00:35:16,950 Well, 569 00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:19,170 that must have made you and Wittenberg pretty angry. 570 00:35:19,610 --> 00:35:20,890 Oh, come on, we... 571 00:35:21,260 --> 00:35:24,500 We owned Fry Spotters because we enjoyed it. Who needed the grief, you know? 572 00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:29,200 Here's a boy climbs down from a coconut palm, and the next thing, he's a money 573 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,200 genius. 574 00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:34,140 If you were sore, why did you go to Baby's restaurant that night? 575 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:35,500 We shouldn't have. 576 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:42,100 But Laurie had been such a good girl at the premiere that she wanted Mexican 577 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,820 food at Duarte's, and so we went. 578 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,440 Uh -huh. 579 00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:51,260 Well... Where were you at 3 o 'clock the next morning? 580 00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:57,260 Oh, uh, I took Al Moran, who was too drunk to drive, to the athletic club in 581 00:35:57,260 --> 00:36:02,460 car, and then I tried to get a cab home and started to walk and got all the way 582 00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:04,720 to the Hollywood Roads, though, before one came by. 583 00:36:05,260 --> 00:36:07,220 Did the driver corroborate your story? 584 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,880 The police had a devil of a time finding him. 585 00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:15,760 Turns out he drove me home without calling in the fare and trying to make a 586 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,880 couple of dollars on the meter. 587 00:36:17,310 --> 00:36:18,370 Which I can understand. 588 00:36:19,070 --> 00:36:20,810 L .A.'s a lousy camp town. 589 00:36:21,350 --> 00:36:22,890 What about Lee Wittenberg? Where was he? 590 00:36:23,650 --> 00:36:25,030 It was Saturday night. 591 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:27,330 He got to take Laura home. 592 00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:51,430 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 593 00:36:53,290 --> 00:36:54,530 Okay. Okay, here goes. 594 00:36:54,970 --> 00:36:58,130 A andE returns to Lou Grant. 595 00:37:00,710 --> 00:37:04,330 Mrs. Polk's got enough trouble without being half of it. Hi, Billy. Come on in. 596 00:37:04,450 --> 00:37:05,970 Have a bagel? I'm being threatened. 597 00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:09,070 What? And I think I know by whom. Not by me. 598 00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:10,990 Of course not by you. Gee. 599 00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:13,470 Look. What is it? 600 00:37:13,710 --> 00:37:14,710 A chicken. 601 00:37:15,850 --> 00:37:19,110 You were threatened by a chicken? Did you kill it? It was already dead. 602 00:37:19,470 --> 00:37:22,170 You were threatened by a dead chicken? It was hanging from my lamp. 603 00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:27,030 Oh. With its head and its feet still on. Wow. With the crib under it. Heavy. 604 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:30,670 Am I the only one this has happened to? Hasn't anybody else been threatened? 605 00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:33,210 They must have decided to go after our weakest link. 606 00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:34,770 Rossi. Look. 607 00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:38,210 We're poking into a murder here. Someone killed someone. 608 00:37:38,530 --> 00:37:41,410 And the fact that it happened 30 years ago doesn't seem to make much 609 00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:44,730 On the other hand, the chicken may have committed suicide. 610 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,040 My landlord said he let a tall gypsy lady into my apartment last night who 611 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,060 claimed she was my aunt. 612 00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:58,080 Now, I don't have an aunt, and I don't know many tall gypsies, Miss Mayberry. 613 00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:02,600 That was trespassing, you know, and destruction of personal property. 614 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,820 got destroyed. I put paper down in case the chicken dripped. How would you like 615 00:38:06,820 --> 00:38:08,040 to tell that to the police? 616 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,460 How would you like to meet Laura Sinclair? 617 00:38:22,670 --> 00:38:23,428 Where's Lou? 618 00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:26,950 He and Charlie are up in Finchon's office with Senator Emanuel. Perfect. 619 00:38:27,590 --> 00:38:30,550 Tell Lou that Laura Sinclair is alive. 620 00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:35,550 She's been living in Santa Rosa, raising kids, married all along. 621 00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:40,570 Coral Mayberry kept the public away for 30 years, but now apparently she's ready 622 00:38:40,570 --> 00:38:42,110 to talk, and we've got her. 623 00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:45,170 Good luck. 624 00:38:51,020 --> 00:38:52,200 Why did you disappear? 625 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,420 Well, I had made ten pictures in four years. 626 00:38:59,060 --> 00:39:03,060 And each one was a little bit more successful than the last one. 627 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,980 But I really didn't know what I was doing. 628 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,160 It was only a matter of time until I fell flat on my face. 629 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,140 So I just threw a few pairs of shoes at Coral to make people think I was 630 00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:19,600 cracking up and went back home to Indiana. 631 00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:23,130 Where the sanitarium's been protecting you all this time. 632 00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:24,950 They weren't lying. 633 00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:28,690 I did check in, and I did check out. 634 00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:32,610 But when you came here, how in the world did you disguise yourself? 635 00:39:32,970 --> 00:39:39,850 I just let my hair grow, and I wore my specs all of the time, and I took 636 00:39:39,850 --> 00:39:40,850 off my girdle. 637 00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:46,950 Once I was Dr. Richardson's wife, no one even spotted me. 638 00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:48,390 I'm amazed. 639 00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:55,610 Well... I thought people figured it made more sense for Laura Sinclair to 640 00:39:55,610 --> 00:40:00,850 end up a mess and a booby hatch than as a mom in Santa Rosa. 641 00:40:01,130 --> 00:40:03,730 You had a reputation for being pretty wild. 642 00:40:04,070 --> 00:40:05,270 Oh, look at me. 643 00:40:05,530 --> 00:40:07,410 I'm the squarest person around. 644 00:40:08,110 --> 00:40:13,890 I went out with everybody because there was never any somebody. 645 00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:16,030 What about all the men? 646 00:40:16,970 --> 00:40:18,150 There were no men. 647 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,060 Your agents, Baby Duarte, and that mobster? 648 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,060 Oh, my agents made me crawl. 649 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,900 What about Baby Duarte? 650 00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:28,340 Oh. 651 00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:31,580 Baby was a sweet, sweet boy. 652 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,960 Were you lovers? 653 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,160 He always dreamed of owning a chicken ranch. 654 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,620 My dad raised chickens. 655 00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:43,520 And that made me a poultry expert in Baby's eyes. 656 00:40:44,780 --> 00:40:47,120 Anytime a farm came up for sale, he... 657 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,980 Took me along to look at it. 658 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:51,380 That's all. 659 00:40:53,220 --> 00:41:00,060 Every time we'd see a farm, Baby would shake his head and say, I go 660 00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:04,040 back, Philippines, and I get me a real farm. 661 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:08,100 Were you lovers? 662 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,200 No. 663 00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:14,800 I forgot what the press was like. 664 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:17,230 Who killed him? 665 00:41:20,090 --> 00:41:21,090 I wish I knew. 666 00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:26,390 Give me about 450, 500 words. 667 00:41:26,970 --> 00:41:29,930 Frosty's interviews are loaded with quotes, so follow his style. Sure. 668 00:41:30,450 --> 00:41:32,670 Animal's been trying to track down where Baby was buried. 669 00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:36,050 We'll run a shot of the grave if he can get it. Either way, we'll start the 670 00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:37,009 series on Tuesday. 671 00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:38,010 What's the rush? 672 00:41:38,050 --> 00:41:39,090 Charlie's stirring the stew. 673 00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:41,830 I think we've got what they're... Aw. 674 00:41:42,350 --> 00:41:43,350 What? 675 00:41:43,630 --> 00:41:45,830 Well, didn't you kind of hope we'd figure out who did it? 676 00:41:46,450 --> 00:41:47,450 Billy. 677 00:41:47,710 --> 00:41:48,930 I know. I know. 678 00:41:49,650 --> 00:41:54,290 Thea Taft says baby's at Queen of Angels Cemetery and that we couldn't find our 679 00:41:54,290 --> 00:41:56,210 rear ends at high noon in a hall of mirrors. 680 00:41:59,890 --> 00:42:02,170 You're looking for Janice Joplin. 681 00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:03,850 Well, she ain't here. 682 00:42:04,090 --> 00:42:06,430 Whoever sold you the map gave you a bum stare. 683 00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:08,250 Janice Joplin? No kidding. 684 00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:11,210 You kids never believe me. What I gotta do? 685 00:42:11,690 --> 00:42:13,070 She's not here, never was. 686 00:42:13,390 --> 00:42:15,630 I believe you. What about Baby Duarte? 687 00:42:18,110 --> 00:42:19,830 How do you know Baby Duarte? 688 00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:21,790 Everybody knows Baby. 689 00:42:22,090 --> 00:42:23,090 Not anymore. 690 00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:25,150 Come on, I'll show you where he is. 691 00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:29,650 I saw his first fight in the States. 692 00:42:30,270 --> 00:42:33,750 He was pretty green then, but beady, oh boy. 693 00:42:37,870 --> 00:42:40,970 He had tiny little feet, like Babe Ruth. 694 00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:43,880 Of course, on Ruth, it was out of proportion. 695 00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:47,060 The baby's feet were just so little. 696 00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:49,240 Here, we're just around the corner here. 697 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,300 Here we are. 698 00:42:58,100 --> 00:42:59,100 Nice, ain't it? 699 00:43:00,020 --> 00:43:03,140 That marble was all hand -polished. 700 00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:05,840 Nothing like it's been made in 30 years. 701 00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:09,740 These folks got their money's worth, I'm telling you. 702 00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:11,960 Must be expensive today. 703 00:43:12,260 --> 00:43:13,980 Been on bed for sale in years. 704 00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:16,720 This one sold with babies. 705 00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:18,860 It did? 706 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,800 Yeah, families like to do that. 707 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,540 Husbands and wives, mothers and sons. 708 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,880 Looks like somebody's been waiting 30 years to join baby. 709 00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:38,300 Baby had no family here. 710 00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:40,470 Everyone was in Manila. 711 00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:43,590 But somebody over here loved Baby very much. 712 00:43:44,910 --> 00:43:46,090 Everybody loved Baby. 713 00:43:46,810 --> 00:43:50,350 Now, one person loved him enough to want to be close to him forever. 714 00:43:51,970 --> 00:43:56,350 And that person thought her love for him had to be a secret. 715 00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:58,910 But I don't know why. 716 00:43:59,750 --> 00:44:00,870 Baby wasn't married. 717 00:44:01,410 --> 00:44:03,850 And you were single too at the time, Mrs. Pope. 718 00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:06,770 Why did you keep it a secret? 719 00:44:12,910 --> 00:44:16,030 What was there to be ashamed of? Baby was colored. 720 00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:18,030 So? 721 00:44:20,170 --> 00:44:22,070 I wasn't that kind of girl. 722 00:44:23,650 --> 00:44:26,710 But if he loved you... He did. 723 00:44:27,830 --> 00:44:30,290 And I loved him very much. 724 00:44:32,530 --> 00:44:35,350 Then I don't get it. Why didn't he marry you? 725 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:38,390 He couldn't. 726 00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:41,010 It's against the law. 727 00:44:42,670 --> 00:44:43,770 Because he wasn't white. 728 00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:46,810 Mrs. Paul. 729 00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:50,050 They changed that law. 730 00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:52,690 They did? 731 00:44:53,050 --> 00:44:56,650 Yes. I think it's been 25 years. 732 00:44:59,250 --> 00:45:00,830 It wasn't a bad law. 733 00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:05,630 Baby wanted to go back to the Philippines. 734 00:45:07,210 --> 00:45:08,730 He wanted a farm. 735 00:45:10,030 --> 00:45:11,490 A wife. 736 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,160 A family. 737 00:45:17,460 --> 00:45:18,980 He was going to leave me. 738 00:45:21,820 --> 00:45:23,360 And you couldn't let him go. 739 00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:29,260 I loved him so much. 740 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,760 We ran Mrs. Polk's interview with the rest of Baby's story. 741 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,380 Animal took a couple of days off. 742 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,860 Went up to Yosemite, but said it was too quiet. 743 00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:51,820 I got him assigned to the clerical worker's strike, and he's pretty much 744 00:45:51,820 --> 00:45:52,820 out of it. 745 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520 I haven't eaten at Phil's diner for three months. 746 00:45:57,720 --> 00:45:59,400 He's probably wondering what's wrong. 747 00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:12,190 A politician's controversial lifestyle leads to his murder on Law and Order 748 00:46:12,190 --> 00:46:17,550 tonight. Now, a cop is acting crazy. Can his partner save him before it's too 749 00:46:17,550 --> 00:46:20,710 late? Join us for Police Story next on A andA.