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[ominous music playing]
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[buzzing]
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My name is David Nadolski,
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and I was an FBI agent for 21 years.
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I was in the bank robbery task force,
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or Violent Crimes
and Major Offenders Squad.
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[sirens wailing]
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Bank Robbery Task Force
was bang-bang-bang-bang.
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Things happening all the time,
always on the move.
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Armored cars, banks.
Not to mention the other violent crimes.
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I stabbed him in the face,
in the legs, in the arms, in the chest.
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It was a lot of fun.
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In 1997, I believe, Anthony Romano,
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a guy who's been
in and out of prison a lot,
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gets in touch with me and says,
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"I got to meet you
to talk about the Gardner case."
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We set up the meeting to take place
at an abandoned ball field.
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It was cold, I remember that.
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It was... probably November, December.
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He says "I'm a mechanic.
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This old prison buddy of mine,
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his name is Carmello Merlino,
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I'm not happy with him.
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He turned my ex-wife into a drug mule,
and it almost ruined her life."
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He said, "I really hate the prick."
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I got the funny feeling now,
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he's doing a lot of talking with people
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that are somehow involved
with the Gardner.
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He's got some connection.
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One of the guys he hangs with
is David Turner.
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[tense music playing]
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The Turner name came up
during the Gardener theft
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at some point in time.
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I said, "Would you potentially wear
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a recording device one time?
Can you do it?"
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And he goes,
"Yeah, all right. I'll do it."
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He did. And he kept doing it.
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[recorder clicks]
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And he did it like a pro! [laughs]
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[Romano speaking]
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[Romano speaking]
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[Merlino speaking]
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[Romano speaking]
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[Merlino speaking]
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Merlino also wants to rob
the Loomis Fargo Vault Facility.
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It's over in Easton, Mass.
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[Romano speaking on tape]
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[Romano]
That's where they keep all the money.
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The trucks come back
and they unload money.
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And he's been casing it.
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[Merlino on tape]
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[Romano on tape] Wow.
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[Merlino on tape]
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And he's planning, talking, scheming.
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[Merlino on tape]
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[Romano] All right.
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[Merlino on tape]
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[Romano on tape] Yeah.
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[Merlino on tape]
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The guys he wanted to use
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were David Turner
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and Stephen Rossetti.
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- [man 1] You see him? Yeah.
- [man 2] Yeah.
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[David Turner speaking on tape]
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[Stephen Rossetti speaking on tape]
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[Merlino speaking on tape]
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[man 3 speaking on tape] I don't care.
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[Merlino speaking on tape]
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[Merlino on tape]
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[Turner speaking on tape]
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[Merlino] Yeah. If that was...
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- [Merlino speaking on tape]
- [Turner laughs]
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[man whistling on tape]
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[Romano speaking on tape]
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[Rossetti speaking on tape]
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[Romano speaking on tape]
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- [Romano] It's like a sally port. Uh...
- [Rossetti] Yeah.
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[waitress on tape]
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[Turner on tape]
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[Romano on tape]
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[Turner] I don't...
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[waitress on tape]
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[Merlino on tape]
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[Rossetti on tape]
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[Merlino] He doesn't like
when we eat bread. Not with his health.
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[Romano on tape] Right.
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[Rossetti on tape]
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- [Rossetti] We go straight out?
- [Romano] No.
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[Nadolski] That tape was dynamite.
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We've got a case.
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What we had arranged for was the next day,
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we had my squad, we had the FBI SWAT team,
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the surveillance squad,
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all out at TRC.
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The first one to arrive was Mello.
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A SWAT van pulls up...
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Boom!
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They take him and he's gone.
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Turner and Rossetti
are being followed by a plane.
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David Turner gets out, opens the trunk,
takes out this huge duffel bag.
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The guns are in that bag.
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The guy in our car
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yells for the SWAT team,
"Take him! Take him!"
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[sirens wailing]
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Anything about the Gardner
you want to get off your chest?
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[laughing]
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[VCR clicking, whirring]
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[Abath] They said "Boston Police,"
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and I buzzed 'em in.
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[intense string music plays]
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Boston. A quiet museum.
A daring robbery.
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[Kurkjian] Vipers are in the grass,
and they're moving towards you.
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[man 1] The biggest art heist in history.
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The 13 art treasures stolen
are worth half a billion dollars.
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Take a look at these composite drawings.
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[Murphy] These were
a get out of jail free card,
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and everybody knew.
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[McGuigan] I have the paintings with me,
now what?
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[Merlino]
They want those motherfuckers bad.
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And they'll pay.
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- They're looking right here.
- [Green] We're gonna get this back.
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[man 3] Gardner Museum
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doubling its reward up to $10 million.
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[Mashberg]
It can really come to obsess you.
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[Green] Why not kill these people?
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[Hawley] I had no idea
what I was going into.
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It was just horrifying.
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[man 4] The empty frames
are all that remain on the museum walls.
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[tense music playing]
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[Leppo] You gotta remember,
I represented Merlino.
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And I represented
probably every member of his crew.
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Merlino,
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Davey Turner,
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and Stevie Rossetti.
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I find it fascinating.
They all had the same lawyer, Marty Leppo.
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If you were a suspect,
you had to have Marty Leppo.
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[Leppo] It's alleged,
and they were indicted for,
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conspiracy to rob the Loomis
counting-house in Easton.
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The unfortunate part for them was
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their added member was an informant.
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When the word came out
that they had been arrested,
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we couldn't find them.
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What are they grabbed for?
What are they doing?
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What's the bail situation?
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And nobody could find them.
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But I found them
in the Brookline police station,
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and the informant was not there,
even though he was a participant.
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That's when I knew
that something happened.
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[Nadolski]
They had a carbine assault rifle,
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five semi-automatic handguns,
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a live fragmentation grenade.
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They had bulletproof vests,
they had scanners.
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They had timers, jumpsuits.
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They had flex ties,
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handcuffs.
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They were given a chance to talk,
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but they all denied any involvement
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or connection or possession
of anything from the Gardner Museum.
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They all got around 40 years.
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[Leppo] They did everything
to make an arrest.
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They set up that sting,
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and said to them after they were arrested,
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"Give up the paintings, you walk out."
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[Murphy] This whole little crew of people,
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they were sort of intertwined.
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Some of them met through prisons,
some of them met on the streets of Boston.
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Carmello Merlino,
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David Turner,
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and there was Bobby Guarente.
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There's a strong belief
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that he had his hands on them.
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May not have been involved in the theft,
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but somehow
came into possession of the paintings.
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The thing about Guarente
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that keeps him
as a prime person of interest,
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even though he's dead,
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is he had connections
to many of these people.
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I'd always covered the courts,
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and the Mafia and organized crime,
those kinds of things.
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Everybody knew Guarente.
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He was the most popular gangster
in New England, I think.
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I've talked to people who told me that,
at some point in time,
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he considered David Turner like a son.
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Guarente loved him.
[as Turner] "Like my own boy."
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Turner was in the can on this thing.
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He's a young guy,
he's got a 40 year sentence.
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And Guarente wanted
to do him a favor and get him out.
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He was floating the idea
of returning a painting.
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Guarente had an appointment
with the lawyer of David Turner
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to talk about this.
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By the time the government
finds out about this,
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Guarente's dead,
so they can't ask him about it.
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The FBI went up to check
a farmhouse that Guarente had,
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to see if they could find
trace of the paintings.
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And they went back to drop the keys off
with the wife, or the widow,
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and say thank you for giving us the keys,
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and they try and engage her
in a little bit of small talk. You know...
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"I'm so-and-so, from Boston,
and we're from...
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This is the Gardner Museum. You ever been?
We know you used to live in Massachusetts...
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And she became, like, visibly agitated,
and she starts going crazy,
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and she says, "I know what the Gardner is,
my Bobby had two of the paintings."
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He was dying,
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and she was constantly at him
to get rid of the things.
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[birds cawing]
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[Mahoney] He said,
"We're going to drive down to Portland.
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I'm gonna meet somebody,
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have lunch,
and I'll give him the paintings.
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They went into a restaurant,
the wives and husbands.
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At one point,
Guarente and this other guy went out,
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and transferred paintings
from Guarente's car to the guy's car.
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She remembers the guy likes to eat.
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He's a big eater. He's a gourmet.
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They used to come up and dine together.
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It's this guy named Bob Gentile
from Connecticut.
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Then the FBI people,
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all from Maine and Boston at that point,
look at each other and go,
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"Who the hell is Bob Gentile?"
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[inquisitive orchestral music plays]
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2010 or so,
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Bob Gentile is a local hoodlum.
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When he first came up,
I call up guys that I know,
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retired FBI agents who are on
the organized crime squad in Connecticut.
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You know, the agent said to me,
"He's got nothing to do with Boston.
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He's got nothing to do
with any art heist."
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And one of the things these Mob guys do
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is they always have a half-assed
car business on the side.
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And he was closely associated
with Guarente.
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Guarente and Gentile
had met back in the '80s.
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They were in the car business.
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They were both Italian guys,
both heavyset.
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They looked like brothers.
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It became a friendship of years.
Probably 25, 30 years.
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[Mahoney] They shared
some common interests.
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Boosting stolen things.
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They would hijack truckloads of clothing
and they would sell that sort of thing.
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So they had a lot going on.
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Gentile's just a swindler and a cheater.
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You know,
everybody's looking to break his legs.
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[upbeat jazzy music playing]
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[Mahoney] Bob at this point
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has muscled his way into taking over
this used car lot, GandM Auto.
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And this guy has actually converted
one of the grease pits
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into a gourmet kitchen.
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And he cleaned out the equipment,
and put in a stove,
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and a table, chairs,
a refrigerator, and a sink.
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He goes down at ten o'clock in the morning
and starts cooking.
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He's cooking big things
with sauce, spaghetti, everything.
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Bobby's got the apron on
with the big stomach.
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He's got all these old-time, broken-down
gangsters from the area that come down.
250
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All 60, 70 years old, 80 years old,
and he's feeding them down there.
251
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And he's holding court, blah, blah, blah.
They drink wine and eat spaghetti all day,
252
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and talk about when they stole this,
when they stole that,
253
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when they'd knocked over
this guy and that guy.
254
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[glasses clink]
255
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The FBI inserts an informer
into this group.
256
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He's trying to get Gentile
to talk about the art,
257
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talk about the museum,
talk about the paintings.
258
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They start working on Bobby.
259
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I mean, non-stop every day.
260
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Gentile's winking and nodding.
"Oh, yeah, I can't talk about that."
261
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The next thing is,
"Can you get me drugs?
262
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Can you get Oxycontin,
can you get this, that?"
263
00:16:07,383 --> 00:16:10,844
[McGuigan] The informant sees a bottle
that my client had on his desk.
264
00:16:11,303 --> 00:16:12,304
And he picked it up,
265
00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:15,599
and it was
his own prescription for Dilaudid.
266
00:16:16,475 --> 00:16:19,019
And then he says,
"How much do you want for this?"
267
00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:21,230
Says, "I'll give you $300 for the bottle."
268
00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:26,986
Client said, "Okay."
And there you go. There's a felony.
269
00:16:36,245 --> 00:16:38,998
David Turner's name came up
in court in Connecticut.
270
00:16:39,081 --> 00:16:41,208
I went looking
at the Bureau of Prisons website
271
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and saw his release date,
and suddenly it's 2025,
272
00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:46,588
and it's like, "What's the reason?"
273
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[man] David Turner's
original release date was 2032.
274
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And then it gets put to 2025,
sometime around the same time that your...
275
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[McGuigan]
My client is being prosecuted. Yeah.
276
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[man] Did you get any indication
why that sentence was cut?
277
00:17:01,478 --> 00:17:03,605
No. But I... It's not a coincidence.
278
00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:07,359
In law enforcement and criminal law,
we don't believe in coincidences.
279
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Turner's working with the FBI.
280
00:17:10,487 --> 00:17:14,324
And so that's why I believe
that it was this cooperation
281
00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:16,869
that gets him seven years
shaved off his sentence.
282
00:17:18,871 --> 00:17:20,998
[Murphy] We know that it was kept secret,
283
00:17:21,832 --> 00:17:25,669
but if it was for some reason
like sentencing guidelines changed
284
00:17:25,753 --> 00:17:28,881
or there was something
that didn't need to be secret,
285
00:17:28,964 --> 00:17:30,883
it'd be part of the public court file.
286
00:17:30,966 --> 00:17:34,011
[tense music playing]
287
00:17:41,977 --> 00:17:44,563
[Kelly] I don't know
what's publicly revealed
288
00:17:44,646 --> 00:17:46,231
in the proceedings against him,
289
00:17:46,982 --> 00:17:49,443
but typically,
when a search warrant is executed
290
00:17:49,526 --> 00:17:52,529
it's based upon information
law enforcement has
291
00:17:52,613 --> 00:17:54,156
from other sources, witnesses,
292
00:17:54,239 --> 00:17:57,076
who say, "We know
so-and-so is involved in a crime
293
00:17:57,159 --> 00:18:00,162
and we know the fruits of that crime
are at his location."
294
00:18:01,872 --> 00:18:05,584
[Murphy] Clearly David Turner got
some sort of a deal for information.
295
00:18:07,377 --> 00:18:10,214
[McGuigan]
I got a phone call, and they said,
296
00:18:10,297 --> 00:18:15,219
"Do you know there's about 100 FBI agents
outside of your client's house?"
297
00:18:15,302 --> 00:18:16,887
I said, "No, I wasn't aware."
298
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:25,312
You can get a nice zoomer there.
They're bagging and tagging, baby.
299
00:18:29,024 --> 00:18:29,858
Okay.
300
00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:34,530
Federal agents searching
a reputed mobster's home in Manchester,
301
00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:39,034
and it may be connected
to the largest art heist in history.
302
00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:42,746
Federal authorities got
a search warrant for his property,
303
00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:47,042
and the thought was that there were
a couple paintings on his property.
304
00:18:48,001 --> 00:18:49,962
[McGuigan] There were cars everywhere.
305
00:18:50,045 --> 00:18:52,506
There were three massive black trucks,
306
00:18:52,589 --> 00:18:54,800
tactical vehicles,
tents they had erected.
307
00:18:54,883 --> 00:18:57,719
A few Bloodhounds.
They got a ferret back there.
308
00:18:57,803 --> 00:19:00,931
They had, I'm not kidding,
two helicopters flying in the air.
309
00:19:01,014 --> 00:19:02,933
It was something out of a movie.
310
00:19:05,602 --> 00:19:07,146
[Mcguigan]
Ground-penetrating radar.
311
00:19:07,229 --> 00:19:10,524
They're lookin' for paintings.
They're lookin' for 'em right here.
312
00:19:11,775 --> 00:19:15,487
[reporter] Remind people what was taken
from the Gardner years ago.
313
00:19:15,571 --> 00:19:20,659
It was amazing. Thirteen paintings,
Rembrandt, Degas, Manet, Vermeer.
314
00:19:21,243 --> 00:19:24,329
He's a crook, you know, he's just a crook.
315
00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:26,915
Crooks do those things.
I wish he didn't live here.
316
00:19:29,626 --> 00:19:32,629
I think that they're gonna find nothing
but a bunch of worms
317
00:19:32,713 --> 00:19:34,173
for their fishing expedition.
318
00:19:35,966 --> 00:19:40,345
At that point I said to myself,
"They must know something that I don't."
319
00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:44,766
In the face of all of the money
that is being spent right now,
320
00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:48,478
I have to be wrong.
I couldn't possibly be right."
321
00:19:48,562 --> 00:19:50,439
Okay five, four, three, two, one.
322
00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:54,610
I can't believe they're letting
the attorney for this... suspect
323
00:19:54,693 --> 00:19:57,946
hang out right there with the feds,
but I guess he has a right to.
324
00:19:58,030 --> 00:19:59,948
I mean... it makes no sense to me.
325
00:20:03,785 --> 00:20:07,289
Word came in.
We're going to get this stuff back.
326
00:20:07,372 --> 00:20:09,625
We prepared for our press conference.
327
00:20:10,417 --> 00:20:13,337
Poster boards were made for the pieces.
328
00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:17,716
The words "recovered" were over them,
the item was in the center of it.
329
00:20:19,676 --> 00:20:23,138
We were very excited.
I had been on many, many searches.
330
00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,642
We'd get leads for different people,
different places,
331
00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:29,228
and we would go
and we would search their homes.
332
00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:31,438
We would come up dry
at each one of them.
333
00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,485
We were really salivating
at the opportunity
334
00:20:36,568 --> 00:20:39,029
to see all the things
that we were looking for.
335
00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:43,617
[Mahoney] They really took it apart.
I mean...
336
00:20:43,700 --> 00:20:45,994
They were looking inside walls and things.
337
00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:48,038
I think they went in there three times,
338
00:20:48,121 --> 00:20:52,626
and every time they found hiding places
that they hadn't known about before.
339
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:59,675
The FBI looked at the shed,
and they found a hole in the floor.
340
00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:07,849
And underneath the hole,
was another hole in the dirt,
341
00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:10,477
with some kind of
big Tupperware thing in it,
342
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,938
which presumably
you could hide something in.
343
00:21:13,021 --> 00:21:15,107
They bring me out to the hold,
344
00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:21,029
and they show me a cut in the floor
that they had made.
345
00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:22,614
It looked very dramatic.
346
00:21:25,033 --> 00:21:28,829
And there was a giant piece of equipment
they had to move out of the shed,
347
00:21:28,912 --> 00:21:31,581
and underneath that equipment
was a trap door.
348
00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:37,796
And then they open the trap door,
349
00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:40,632
and someone said,
"There's a big container down here."
350
00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:43,385
They pull out the big container,
351
00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:48,724
and it's essentially empty
except for a handgun and some weed.
352
00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:53,687
I looked and said, "It's an empty hole.
What do you want from me?"
353
00:21:53,770 --> 00:21:57,441
They said, "We think your client
might have put the paintings in here."
354
00:21:57,524 --> 00:22:00,444
I said, "The Storm on the Sea of Galilee
is five by four.
355
00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:03,947
It's not gonna fit in there.
What are you talking about?"
356
00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:06,700
"Well, the small Rembrandt could have."
357
00:22:06,783 --> 00:22:10,203
I said, "Yeah, but are you really
looking for the small Rembrandt?"
358
00:22:14,124 --> 00:22:17,919
Clearly didn't get what they wanted,
which is certainly not firearms,
359
00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:20,255
it's certainly paintings from the Gardner.
360
00:22:21,923 --> 00:22:24,051
[Green] I was disappointed about that,
361
00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:26,720
and I said, "If you ever find this stuff,
362
00:22:27,888 --> 00:22:30,057
ring me up. I want to see it all."
363
00:22:31,141 --> 00:22:34,394
[McGuigan] They spend the better part
of eight hours in the house,
364
00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:37,731
and they then told me
that they had found a number of guns.
365
00:22:37,814 --> 00:22:40,192
Uh, they had found a newspaper article.
366
00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:42,319
It was the Boston Herald.
367
00:22:42,402 --> 00:22:45,614
And it was all about
the museum being robbed.
368
00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:51,578
Within that was
a yellow, lined piece of paper
369
00:22:51,661 --> 00:22:56,166
with every single piece of art
that had been stolen from the museum
370
00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:57,376
on a left-hand column,
371
00:22:57,459 --> 00:23:01,088
and on the right-hand column,
there was a corresponding number
372
00:23:01,171 --> 00:23:05,675
with a value of what the art
would've been valued on the street.
373
00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:08,637
That doesn't look good.
374
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,680
Corroborated law enforcement's sense
375
00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:14,434
that the search warrant
was appropriately issued,
376
00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:17,938
and they were hopeful
that he'd give them information.
377
00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:19,981
They're telling him,
378
00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:22,567
"You're gonna die in jail
unless you give us information,"
379
00:23:22,651 --> 00:23:24,528
and he has no information for them.
380
00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:26,780
That set off all kinds of red flags.
381
00:23:26,863 --> 00:23:30,575
I went and I asked him about it,
and I said, "What is this?"
382
00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:34,538
The thing is, Bob Gentile wouldn't know
the truth if he tripped over it.
383
00:23:34,621 --> 00:23:36,998
He's incapable of telling the truth.
384
00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:46,091
I asked for a meeting with the assistant
U.S. attorney on the case.
385
00:23:46,174 --> 00:23:48,802
I figured I'd be walking into
a normal meeting
386
00:23:48,885 --> 00:23:50,720
with an FBI agent and U.S. attorney.
387
00:23:52,013 --> 00:23:54,307
This is a big meeting.
This is a big deal.
388
00:23:54,391 --> 00:23:58,061
They were asking about, of course,
the piece of paper.
389
00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:02,691
And they said, "For God's sake, Bob,
you have the piece of paper.
390
00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:06,903
It has a list of all the paintings
and values, for God's sake.
391
00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:08,029
Stop denying it."
392
00:24:08,738 --> 00:24:11,616
There are probably 12 FBI agents,
393
00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:13,952
three U.S. attorneys,
394
00:24:14,035 --> 00:24:16,663
and then a polygraph guy from the FBI.
395
00:24:18,665 --> 00:24:21,001
This polygraph had
about 35 people in the room,
396
00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:22,794
milling around, having coffee,
397
00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:25,839
slamming doors, babies crying.
398
00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:27,215
You name it, it had it.
399
00:24:28,675 --> 00:24:30,218
They had put a picture
400
00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:34,848
of every single one
of the pieces of art that had been stolen,
401
00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:36,516
and they put them on the wall,
402
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,103
and he went down through
each and every one of the pieces of art.
403
00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:42,022
"Have you ever seen that one?
404
00:24:42,105 --> 00:24:43,565
Have you seen that one?
405
00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:45,108
Have you seen that one?"
406
00:24:45,192 --> 00:24:48,904
They then were having side conversations
with one another and my client,
407
00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:51,072
explaining what kind of picture it was,
408
00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:54,743
who painted the picture,
what was the size of the picture.
409
00:24:54,826 --> 00:24:58,413
So he was getting a tutorial
while he was taking this "polygraph,"
410
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:01,708
right there in the U.S. attorney's office.
411
00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:06,713
In the middle of the polygraph,
he just out of the blue states,
412
00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:09,382
"You know what?
I think I did see that little one.
413
00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:16,932
I saw it in Maine. I went to a party
at Bobby Guarante's house
414
00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:19,392
and his wife,
when we got to the party...
415
00:25:19,476 --> 00:25:21,520
His wife was there,
416
00:25:21,603 --> 00:25:23,563
and she came downstairs
417
00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:27,776
and she pulled the little picture there
out of her bra, like that,
418
00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,737
and she showed it to me
and she put it back in her bra."
419
00:25:30,820 --> 00:25:33,448
And they were all excited about that.
420
00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:35,659
He knew that they were excited about it.
421
00:25:35,742 --> 00:25:37,577
They leave the room to take a break.
422
00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:41,081
He looks at me and he said,
"Boy, I got 'em with that one, didn't I?"
423
00:25:41,748 --> 00:25:44,209
I said, "Did you make that up?"
He said, "Yes."
424
00:25:44,292 --> 00:25:47,796
I put my head down and I said,
"Please, God, don't do that anymore."
425
00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:53,051
[Mahoney] The polygraphy result
was a tenth of a percent chance
426
00:25:53,134 --> 00:25:54,553
he was telling the truth.
427
00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:57,055
It was less than one percent, I think.
428
00:25:57,138 --> 00:25:59,849
It was just, you know...
I mean, almost certain.
429
00:26:00,433 --> 00:26:04,938
He was questioned. "Did you know anything
about the heist before it happened?"
430
00:26:05,021 --> 00:26:06,523
He flunks that part of it.
431
00:26:06,606 --> 00:26:09,234
"Do you know the whereabouts
of the paintings today?"
432
00:26:09,317 --> 00:26:10,986
He flunks that when he denies it.
433
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,324
With a guy like him, what're you gonna do?
He's never told the truth in his life.
434
00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:19,119
If you asked him what his name was,
he would give you a fake name.
435
00:26:19,202 --> 00:26:20,412
It's just the way he is.
436
00:26:22,038 --> 00:26:23,832
[McGuigan] Not only did they imprison him,
437
00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:26,668
they prosecuted him
to the full extent that they could.
438
00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:34,843
He was looking at a death in prison.
439
00:26:38,388 --> 00:26:39,472
Where was I?
440
00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:43,602
I think I was on the golf course.
441
00:26:44,936 --> 00:26:48,231
I get a phone call from a U.S. Marshal.
442
00:26:48,315 --> 00:26:51,484
He says, "Do you know
what's going on with your client?"
443
00:26:51,568 --> 00:26:54,446
I said, "No."
He said, "I think you have to call him.
444
00:26:54,529 --> 00:26:57,616
It's his health, he's bad.
He's asking for you."
445
00:26:57,699 --> 00:27:01,328
So I frantically call the office.
I find where he is.
446
00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:04,914
He's at the hospital.
Not going to live through the night.
447
00:27:08,209 --> 00:27:11,338
If there's ever a chance
of a deathbed confession, this is it.
448
00:27:12,255 --> 00:27:15,425
By the time I got to the hospital,
it was twelve o'clock.
449
00:27:15,508 --> 00:27:19,429
I had thought, "I'm going to show up,
he's dead. I know it. It's just my luck."
450
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:23,308
Showed up...
451
00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:26,936
talked to the doctor.
452
00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:29,939
I said, "How's my client?"
He said, "He's not gonna make it."
453
00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:35,236
So I went and sat down with him
and I spent the night with him.
454
00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:38,990
I woke up the next morning
about nine o'clock.
455
00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:45,997
I hear a gasp and...
"What the F are you doing here?"
456
00:27:46,081 --> 00:27:47,457
[chuckling]
457
00:27:48,583 --> 00:27:50,585
I said, "Good to see you too, Bobby."
458
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,005
And he said, "What's gonna happen to me?"
459
00:27:56,383 --> 00:27:58,259
I said, "You're probably gonna die...
460
00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:01,137
If I'm honest with you."
461
00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:05,975
He kept moving his legs.
He was in a lot of discomfort.
462
00:28:06,059 --> 00:28:10,647
And he kept moaning he can't die here.
"I can't die here, I can't die here."
463
00:28:11,815 --> 00:28:14,526
I approached him,
I got in his face, and I said,
464
00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:17,404
"The only way that you don't die here...
465
00:28:18,571 --> 00:28:20,240
is that you give me something.
466
00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:25,912
I guarantee you,
if you give me anything on the paintings,
467
00:28:27,163 --> 00:28:29,749
that I could have you medevac'd
out of here tonight,
468
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:34,337
and you can be in your bed
with your wife this evening,
469
00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:35,839
and you could die at home."
470
00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:39,968
And then real tears
coming down his face,
471
00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:41,886
because he genuinely loves his wife.
472
00:28:43,972 --> 00:28:45,932
He looked at me, defeated, and he said,
473
00:28:46,808 --> 00:28:48,435
"But there ain't no paintings."
474
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:51,938
It was at that point that I knew
475
00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:54,065
that I would never ask him
about paintings again.
476
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,446
[atmospheric music playing]
477
00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:08,371
[man] When was the last time
you talked to him?
478
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,709
He got out of prison on the 17th,
which I think was a Saturday.
479
00:29:12,792 --> 00:29:13,877
I had lunch with him.
480
00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:16,963
- How was the lunch?
- I paid.
481
00:29:17,046 --> 00:29:18,381
He bought two lunches.
482
00:29:19,048 --> 00:29:20,216
Took one home with him.
483
00:29:23,219 --> 00:29:27,515
He's 80 now.
I mean, 81, 82, I can't remember.
484
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,809
He's overweight.
He's got a heart condition.
485
00:29:29,893 --> 00:29:32,479
He's got arthritis.
He's got a bad back.
486
00:29:33,354 --> 00:29:36,941
He's livin' in
this half-ruined house by himself.
487
00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:44,407
Well, the feds have spent
a lot of time announcing
488
00:29:44,491 --> 00:29:47,243
that the paintings went
from Bobby Guarente
489
00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:50,121
to this great friend of his,
Bobby Gentile.
490
00:29:51,998 --> 00:29:55,877
Myself included,
everyone has knocked on Gentile's door
491
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,047
and talked to his lawyer,
and he denies, denies, denies.
492
00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:04,260
[Kurkjian on tape]
Good. So, this is Monday at Bob's house.
493
00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:07,889
What do you think about the possibility
that Guarente did have them?
494
00:30:07,972 --> 00:30:09,224
[Gentile] I don't think so.
495
00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:12,727
If he had them,
he would've gotten Turner out of jail.
496
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:16,231
Him and Merlino and all...
He wants to get them out of jail.
497
00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:19,067
Those were his friends.
If he had them, he'd have gave them up.
498
00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,194
- [Kurkjian] He's that kind of guy?
- A good guy.
499
00:30:21,277 --> 00:30:24,239
He was a bad guy, bank robber,
but a good-hearted guy.
500
00:30:24,322 --> 00:30:26,324
He was a teddy bear, he was a nice guy.
501
00:30:26,407 --> 00:30:29,160
What do I care
what somebody else did 20 years ago?
502
00:30:29,244 --> 00:30:31,412
I know nothing about the paintings.
503
00:30:32,956 --> 00:30:34,791
[birds cawing]
504
00:30:38,002 --> 00:30:39,003
[McGuigan] The FBI,
505
00:30:39,087 --> 00:30:42,507
they believe Erlene Guarante,
Guarante's wife.
506
00:30:43,466 --> 00:30:45,969
They're interested in
their theory of the case
507
00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:49,222
that the paintings went
from Boston to Maine,
508
00:30:49,305 --> 00:30:51,766
Maine to Connecticut,
Connecticut to Philadelphia.
509
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,352
That's the story that they're sticking to.
510
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,105
[Nadolski] Gentile is the link.
511
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,900
He actually was inducted into and joined
512
00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:03,736
the Philadelphia Mafia family
513
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:04,904
and became a member.
514
00:31:09,075 --> 00:31:12,245
In one of the stories,
there was a loud argument
515
00:31:12,328 --> 00:31:14,372
between Gentile and Guarente
516
00:31:14,455 --> 00:31:17,125
about "delivering a painting"
517
00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:20,670
to one of the bosses in Philadelphia
as "tribute."
518
00:31:21,588 --> 00:31:24,757
And Gentile typically
and characteristically was...
519
00:31:24,841 --> 00:31:27,510
"You out of your mind?
That's worth too much money.
520
00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:29,470
Give away that? Forget about it."
521
00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:33,725
I think he has valuable information
that, for whatever reason,
522
00:31:33,808 --> 00:31:37,020
because he's stubborn or stupid
or whatever, he's not sharing.
523
00:31:38,646 --> 00:31:40,148
[crowd murmring indistinctly]
524
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:41,232
[beeping]
525
00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:55,079
[man] Good afternoon, everybody.
Great to have each of you here today.
526
00:31:55,747 --> 00:31:57,165
My name is Rick DesLauriers,
527
00:31:57,248 --> 00:31:59,584
special agent
in charge of the Boston division.
528
00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:02,170
[Murphy] It was really stunning.
529
00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:06,424
The FBI announces on the anniversary
that they are very confident
530
00:32:06,507 --> 00:32:09,344
that they know who committed the robbery,
531
00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:10,720
and the thieves are dead.
532
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:15,308
[DesLauriers] With today's announcement,
we begin the final chapter.
533
00:32:16,893 --> 00:32:18,353
Twenty-three years ago today,
534
00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:22,523
two men posing as Boston police
bluffed their way into the museum
535
00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:26,069
by telling the night guards
they were investigating a disturbance.
536
00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:27,403
Some described the theft
537
00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:30,490
as one of the the most significant
art heists in American history.
538
00:32:30,573 --> 00:32:31,491
We agree.
539
00:32:31,574 --> 00:32:33,493
We are pleased to announce
540
00:32:33,576 --> 00:32:36,204
the FBI has made
significant investigative progress
541
00:32:36,287 --> 00:32:40,500
in the search for the stolen art
from the Gardner Art Museum.
542
00:32:40,583 --> 00:32:43,252
We are continuing
our relentless investigation
543
00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:45,964
with the same tenacity
that brought us to this point.
544
00:32:46,547 --> 00:32:50,218
It quickly led to confirming the identity
of those involved in the robbery
545
00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:52,720
and brought us to the point
where we are today.
546
00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:54,430
[Murphy] It's very tantalizing,
547
00:32:54,514 --> 00:32:57,392
because they're essentially saying,
"We figured it out."
548
00:32:57,475 --> 00:33:01,604
Many people would say, "No, you didn't,
because you don't have the paintings."
549
00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:05,608
However, we do not know
where the art is currently located,
550
00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:09,153
and we are again asking for tips
from the public.
551
00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:13,574
It's likely over the years that someone,
a friend, neighbor, or relative,
552
00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:18,621
has seen the art hanging on a wall,
above a mantle, or stored in an attic.
553
00:33:19,205 --> 00:33:22,125
We want that person to call us.
We also want...
554
00:33:22,208 --> 00:33:25,795
[Kelly] I think
that's an unfortunate interview to give.
555
00:33:25,878 --> 00:33:28,965
Because,
unless you got the items, I mean...
556
00:33:29,048 --> 00:33:32,427
I think it's better left unsaid
what you do and do not have.
557
00:33:33,261 --> 00:33:34,846
[reporter] Why don't you name them?
558
00:33:34,929 --> 00:33:37,849
If you believe that you know
who stole the paintings,
559
00:33:37,932 --> 00:33:40,685
how does it help not to identify
the crew you're looking for?
560
00:33:40,768 --> 00:33:43,271
Because that's an ongoing
investigation right now.
561
00:33:43,354 --> 00:33:46,566
We're not going to compromise
ongoing investigative activity.
562
00:33:46,649 --> 00:33:48,735
[Murphy]
But they don't release the names.
563
00:33:48,818 --> 00:33:51,612
However, through court filings,
564
00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:53,531
they identify people of interest.
565
00:33:53,614 --> 00:33:55,241
Some of the prime suspects.
566
00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:57,535
It comes back to this crew
567
00:33:57,618 --> 00:34:01,622
who hung out at this garage
in Dorchester.
568
00:34:02,832 --> 00:34:04,792
One of the names is George Reissfelder.
569
00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:08,254
The other one was Lenny Dimuzio.
570
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:25,480
[Whelan] Lenny's life was cut short.
571
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:32,111
An informant told me that
when he was at David Turner's house,
572
00:34:33,821 --> 00:34:38,159
David shot him in his backyard,
or the garage area,
573
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:40,244
threw him in the trunk.
574
00:34:41,621 --> 00:34:44,040
That car was driven to east Boston
575
00:34:44,624 --> 00:34:49,128
and was parked
under, I believe, an off-ramp to Route 1.
576
00:34:55,384 --> 00:34:57,720
And it was parked there
for several months.
577
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:06,938
The only time someone really noticed
the car was there that long
578
00:35:07,021 --> 00:35:10,024
was because it was completely white
from birds sitting on it.
579
00:35:13,277 --> 00:35:15,404
They checked out the car, the plates,
580
00:35:15,488 --> 00:35:19,158
they opened the trunk,
and Lenny was in the trunk... melted.
581
00:35:22,411 --> 00:35:23,996
He was there for quite a while.
582
00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:35,967
[Sikellis] It was in the parking lot
of Santrapio's Pizza, in East Boston.
583
00:35:38,219 --> 00:35:40,388
There was a lot of speculation as is,
584
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:43,599
but, uh... nothing beyond speculation.
585
00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:53,609
[Whelan] Charlie Pappas was arrested,
1992, '93, with quite a bit of cocaine.
586
00:35:55,027 --> 00:35:58,614
And we turned Charlie Pappas
to become an informant.
587
00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:03,536
[Sikellis] He agreed to testify
against David Turner on a home invasion.
588
00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:08,124
Although he was a friend
of David Turner's since childhood,
589
00:36:09,083 --> 00:36:12,211
he said, "I don't want to go to jail.
I'm givin' this guy up."
590
00:36:21,971 --> 00:36:24,682
And it was the night before Thanksgiving,
591
00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:28,102
and two people jumped out of the bushes
592
00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,521
- and shot him several times.
- [gunfire]
593
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:33,900
[man] Pappas was scheduled to testify
594
00:36:33,983 --> 00:36:38,529
in a 1990 home invasion case against
David Turner, who lives in this house
595
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:41,073
several blocks away from the murder scene.
596
00:36:41,157 --> 00:36:43,075
The last shot was in the mouth,
597
00:36:44,243 --> 00:36:46,537
which meant, "You're talking." [chuckles]
598
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:52,919
[dramatic music playing]
599
00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:09,769
[McGuigan]
There's a lot of mysterious...
600
00:37:10,978 --> 00:37:13,814
deaths around the theft.
601
00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:24,575
Everybody who apparently
did the robbery is whacked.
602
00:37:30,581 --> 00:37:33,084
Or dies of natural causes,
603
00:37:33,167 --> 00:37:35,503
or some might say unnatural causes.
604
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,300
At that point, Guarante's dead.
605
00:37:41,384 --> 00:37:43,302
Merlino's dead.
606
00:37:43,386 --> 00:37:44,971
Everyone had died.
607
00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:46,596
Except for Turner.
608
00:37:58,985 --> 00:38:01,570
[Kurkjian]
You ever see those guys before? Or since?
609
00:38:01,654 --> 00:38:03,531
[Abath]
Not to my knowledge, no.
610
00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:05,616
[Kurkjian] Anybody close to them?
611
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:11,539
[Abath] The only guy who came close,
when I saw his picture, was Turner.
612
00:38:28,389 --> 00:38:29,974
[Murphy] Turner got a break.
613
00:38:30,057 --> 00:38:33,144
David Turner had seven years
shaved off his prison sentence,
614
00:38:33,227 --> 00:38:34,603
and we know that.
615
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,689
And we know that it was kept secret.
616
00:38:46,032 --> 00:38:48,909
[Murphy] It is November 13th, 2019.
617
00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:57,084
David Turner's back here today
for resentencing.
618
00:38:58,461 --> 00:38:59,378
We're standing out
619
00:38:59,462 --> 00:39:01,380
in front of the federal court in Boston.
620
00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,718
Well, I can tell you I was here
a couple of decades ago
621
00:39:05,801 --> 00:39:07,595
when he was first convicted
622
00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:10,765
in this attempted robbery
of an armored car depot.
623
00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:15,811
You don't realize when the years go by,
it's been 21 years,
624
00:39:15,895 --> 00:39:20,524
and I recall him as a young man
with dark, jet black hair,
625
00:39:20,608 --> 00:39:23,444
and now he's a 52-year-old man.
626
00:39:23,527 --> 00:39:25,738
He's got a little gray to his hair.
627
00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:38,042
[man] Okay, he gets out, they just
let him walk right out the front door?
628
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:39,125
[woman] Yeah.
629
00:39:47,134 --> 00:39:50,638
[man] He's not going back...
He's not going back to jail?
630
00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:53,766
[woman] No, he's gonna walk free.
Just got to do processing.
631
00:39:53,849 --> 00:39:54,849
[man] All right.
632
00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:08,406
[Murphy]
There are very few persons of interest
633
00:40:08,489 --> 00:40:11,242
left alive
in the Gardner heist investigation.
634
00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:12,368
[shutter snapping]
635
00:40:13,327 --> 00:40:15,538
[man] Hey, David, how's it feel to be out?
636
00:40:16,122 --> 00:40:18,040
- Wonderful. Goin' to Disneyland.
- Yeah?
637
00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:19,792
[Murphy]
He walked out a free man.
638
00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:22,503
Do you have any knowledge
of the Gardner heist?
639
00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,004
Please get away from me.
640
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:26,090
Any idea where those paintings are?
641
00:40:26,173 --> 00:40:28,926
[Murphy] There are some authorities
who are concerned,
642
00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:31,429
some of the investigators
that I've spoken to,
643
00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:34,056
who were dogging him back in the day,
644
00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:37,101
that he was someone
that was a suspect in several murders.
645
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,479
So there's concern.
646
00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:42,940
[man] Suspect number 2
is described as a white...
647
00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:44,733
[Murphy] On one hand, people say,
648
00:40:44,817 --> 00:40:47,570
"Look, this guy's
been in prison for 21 years.
649
00:40:47,653 --> 00:40:51,073
If he really knew where they were,
he wouldn't be sitting in prison."
650
00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:52,950
But on the other hand,
651
00:40:53,033 --> 00:40:56,078
there's a $10 million reward,
and he's walking out of prison.
652
00:40:56,954 --> 00:40:59,957
I'd think there's an incentive,
if he does know anything,
653
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,041
to try to find it.
654
00:41:01,125 --> 00:41:03,377
[suspenseful music playing]
655
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,269
[man] Hey, you plan on trying
to collect the reward?
656
00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:35,743
[somber music playing]
657
00:41:39,205 --> 00:41:41,415
[Leppo] Everybody talks about the Gardner.
658
00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:43,918
This is it.
659
00:41:46,712 --> 00:41:49,715
Where's the last page,
"...and we apprehended"?
660
00:41:53,385 --> 00:41:54,385
Unbelievable.
661
00:41:54,970 --> 00:42:01,352
I literally have spent
almost 25 years on this case. Uh...
662
00:42:01,435 --> 00:42:04,855
And in the first few years,
I had what I call "Gardner sickness,"
663
00:42:05,648 --> 00:42:09,068
which is just this intense desire
664
00:42:09,777 --> 00:42:13,322
to solve the case,
no matter how you can.
665
00:42:13,405 --> 00:42:14,532
Follow every lead.
666
00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:19,828
Look at every clue twice, three times.
667
00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:31,757
You go back to the night of the crime,
668
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,094
and you're gonna...
you recreate every step that took place.
669
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,763
You look at the first police reports.
670
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:41,100
It can really come to obsess you.
671
00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:47,773
There's gotta be a way to figure out
where these went,
672
00:42:47,856 --> 00:42:50,776
because it's so bizarre
that they just disappeared.
673
00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:57,533
[Vigderman]
To have them come back,
674
00:42:57,616 --> 00:42:59,910
it's like somebody
coming back from the grave.
675
00:43:01,620 --> 00:43:03,622
[Hawley] When I see those frames,
676
00:43:03,706 --> 00:43:07,710
I feel that they are waiting
for the work to come back.
677
00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:19,763
It's three o'clock in the morning.
I have the paintings with me. Now what?
678
00:43:27,813 --> 00:43:29,398
The feds, in their account,
679
00:43:29,481 --> 00:43:32,776
believe that the paintings most likely
680
00:43:33,569 --> 00:43:37,740
went through these hands of Donati,
to Guarente, to the outside world.
681
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:43,078
[Mahoney] There are some people who think
when Gentile dies,
682
00:43:43,162 --> 00:43:45,164
it might shake something loose.
683
00:43:45,247 --> 00:43:47,082
His death will trigger something.
684
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:50,419
Someone will say,
"Now he's dead, I'm gonna come forward."
685
00:43:50,502 --> 00:43:54,840
You can't write off anything
until you have the evidence that says
686
00:43:54,923 --> 00:43:57,134
100% that this didn't happen.
687
00:43:57,217 --> 00:43:58,469
Maybe it did.
688
00:44:00,346 --> 00:44:03,474
There's stories about stuff being buried,
being thrown away.
689
00:44:03,557 --> 00:44:07,186
And I wouldn't be surprised
if this stuff was gotten rid of.
690
00:44:07,269 --> 00:44:09,396
There was just so much heat
on this thing.
691
00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:14,735
I know this organized crime guy
in New York,
692
00:44:14,818 --> 00:44:18,864
takes stuff and sends them overseas
to Saudi Arabia.
693
00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:22,826
He said that's where they are.
I know that's where they went.
694
00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:24,787
Bobby had connections with some people
695
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:27,373
in Canada that they were looking at.
696
00:44:27,456 --> 00:44:29,166
We have had verbal accounts.
697
00:44:29,249 --> 00:44:31,919
A source who was extremely reliable
698
00:44:32,002 --> 00:44:34,171
says he thinks he saw the Vermeer
in Dublin.
699
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:36,506
Nonsense.
700
00:44:36,882 --> 00:44:39,510
We started getting calls
from South America.
701
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:42,888
[Hawley] We had this lead
that came from Japan.
702
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:45,265
[Kurkjian]
There was a tip that said
703
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:48,977
the paintings had been stolen by a group
and they had wound up in France.
704
00:44:50,229 --> 00:44:52,189
[Leppo] They've traveled to Jamaica,
705
00:44:52,272 --> 00:44:54,108
churches in South Boston.
706
00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:58,654
They've gone all over
and they haven't found a thing.
707
00:45:14,586 --> 00:45:16,213
We're coming up to 30 years now,
708
00:45:16,296 --> 00:45:19,174
30 years that these masterpieces
have been missing.
709
00:45:20,926 --> 00:45:22,136
It needs a break.
710
00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:27,558
[Murphy] They're out there.
711
00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:30,060
Somebody stashed them.
712
00:45:31,979 --> 00:45:33,939
Sometimes it's the next generation.
713
00:45:35,232 --> 00:45:38,569
"Grandpa's dead, look what we got."
[chuckles] You know? It's like...
714
00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:42,030
[Fisher]
You could potentially get immunity,
715
00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:44,324
potentially get $10 million.
716
00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:46,118
That's why this case
is so confounding.
717
00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:50,706
They could be in Australia.
They could be in the Middle East.
718
00:45:50,789 --> 00:45:52,499
Could be in Europe. Who knows?
719
00:45:53,709 --> 00:45:55,461
You wanna keep in the public eye.
720
00:45:58,338 --> 00:46:00,608
Why don't we get our evidence
on one of the anniversaries,
721
00:46:00,632 --> 00:46:03,594
put it out on the table, the tapes,
and just show the stuff?
722
00:46:06,221 --> 00:46:07,461
Until you have the paintings...
723
00:46:09,099 --> 00:46:10,559
it's all still just a theory.
724
00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:20,194
[dramatic choral music plays]
725
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:07,825
[intricate string music playing]