1 00:00:24,774 --> 00:00:26,401 DIRECTOR 2 00:00:26,526 --> 00:00:29,112 For me, music for children it's incredible, 3 00:00:29,237 --> 00:00:30,780 because children are incredible. 4 00:00:30,905 --> 00:00:33,742 And the adults who choose make music for children 5 00:00:33,825 --> 00:00:37,328 are destined for a life to be underestimated. 6 00:00:37,620 --> 00:00:40,623 So, I wanted to praise these artists and show that they are, 7 00:00:40,707 --> 00:00:44,169 in my eyes, true heroes. 8 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:57,015 I don't know how successful we will have... 9 00:00:57,098 --> 00:01:00,101 Sit on the chair. 10 00:01:00,185 --> 00:01:01,436 My God! 11 00:01:03,813 --> 00:01:05,774 So, and show the guitar. 12 00:01:05,857 --> 00:01:07,859 - Like this. - Hello, Francisco. 13 00:01:07,942 --> 00:01:09,778 - That's right. - Mommy. 14 00:01:09,861 --> 00:01:11,613 - Sit down. - You have to sit down. 15 00:01:11,696 --> 00:01:13,448 - You have to sit down. - No. 16 00:01:14,032 --> 00:01:15,116 This is a challenge. 17 00:01:18,661 --> 00:01:19,704 Let's get into the groove. 18 00:01:20,413 --> 00:01:22,123 - It's there. - There he goes. 19 00:01:22,874 --> 00:01:24,793 - Ready? Good. - I'm recording... 20 00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:26,628 - Let's go. - Hold tight. 21 00:01:26,711 --> 00:01:28,045 MUSIC FOR KIDS TAKE 1 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,550 Do you have a headache? 23 00:01:32,634 --> 00:01:34,219 Let me see. 24 00:01:38,014 --> 00:01:41,101 What will most people think of when we say "music for children"? 25 00:01:41,601 --> 00:01:44,062 Whenever I said I did this, 26 00:01:44,145 --> 00:01:47,982 people looked at me, like: "How sweet... 27 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:51,069 You will want to do adult music in the future?" 28 00:01:51,152 --> 00:01:53,196 As if it wasn't real music. 29 00:01:54,656 --> 00:01:57,575 I've been on stages in front of 50 thousand people, 30 00:01:57,658 --> 00:02:00,745 but being in an auditorium, with five year old boys... 31 00:02:01,579 --> 00:02:03,665 Boys intimidate me. 32 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:15,718 Boys are the best drunk people ever. 33 00:02:15,802 --> 00:02:19,722 "That would never happen at the most punk rock show." 34 00:02:19,806 --> 00:02:23,935 If it was a Fugazi concert, the boy He was given five dollars and set to walk. 35 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:30,150 For me it has become common, but it may seem crazy 36 00:02:30,233 --> 00:02:32,277 for those who see it for the first time. 37 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,321 I'm getting dizzy, my body hurts, but kids love it. 38 00:02:35,405 --> 00:02:36,948 The music has to be good. 39 00:02:47,292 --> 00:02:50,712 Normally, whoever approaches us, when we walk down the street, 40 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:52,380 has a positive attitude. 41 00:02:52,714 --> 00:02:56,091 But sometimes we have parents that our music drove people crazy 42 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:59,429 and who want to make us physically ill. 43 00:03:00,513 --> 00:03:02,015 A father approached me and said: 44 00:03:02,098 --> 00:03:04,601 "I don't know if I want to choke him or congratulate you." 45 00:03:19,824 --> 00:03:21,826 He likes to listen to a lot of music. 46 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:24,996 Now, it's the song "I Love My Little Garbage Truck". 47 00:03:25,079 --> 00:03:27,665 We must have heard it 77 times the other day. 48 00:03:27,749 --> 00:03:32,003 I love my garbage truck I don't know the rest of the lyrics 49 00:03:32,128 --> 00:03:36,382 Welcome to our educational farm We have a lot to show you 50 00:03:36,466 --> 00:03:37,884 I want to shoot the fool. 51 00:03:37,966 --> 00:03:40,345 Helicopter, helicopter 52 00:03:40,428 --> 00:03:41,846 And it doesn't stop. 53 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:44,390 Helicopter, Helicopter 54 00:03:44,474 --> 00:03:45,600 He knows the song. 55 00:03:46,351 --> 00:03:51,522 The truth is that we listen to more music that he and I want to hear, 56 00:03:51,606 --> 00:03:55,526 instead of children's songs, because I consider many of them 57 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:57,779 horribly repetitive and boring. 58 00:03:57,862 --> 00:04:01,908 It will always be "children's music", rather than "real music". 59 00:04:01,991 --> 00:04:06,079 It was good that he heard things which were not so simplified, 60 00:04:06,621 --> 00:04:08,373 or even at all. 61 00:04:08,456 --> 00:04:11,876 There could be music for children seven or six years old 62 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,672 with a slightly more complex context 63 00:04:16,714 --> 00:04:18,507 and emotional. 64 00:04:20,134 --> 00:04:22,387 Is he nearby? Do you see him? 65 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:24,180 Very good. 66 00:04:24,555 --> 00:04:28,351 - You can take a minute... - There will be no problem, of course. 67 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:32,397 He must be fine. 68 00:04:33,314 --> 00:04:38,069 Welcome to the Wiggly Big Day Out Tour, proudly hosted by Huggies. 69 00:04:38,152 --> 00:04:42,198 Don't forget to bring a sample from diapers to panties from Huggies when you go out. 70 00:04:44,575 --> 00:04:51,291 And now, welcome the Wiggles! 71 00:05:07,724 --> 00:05:09,600 Our name is "Wiggles" because 72 00:05:09,684 --> 00:05:12,687 the first thing a baby usually to do is wiggle. 73 00:05:16,274 --> 00:05:18,192 I don't know how to dance at all. 74 00:05:18,276 --> 00:05:22,697 So, it's good, because I know how to shake myself. 75 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:25,074 And children learn this too. 76 00:05:25,450 --> 00:05:27,368 I must be at their level. 77 00:05:37,045 --> 00:05:39,547 And, with this name, "Wiggles", 78 00:05:39,756 --> 00:05:44,594 no one will confuse us with Metallica or a heavy metal group. 79 00:05:46,804 --> 00:05:50,266 Clap your hands To the sound of skeleton jazz 80 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:54,020 Knock, knock, knock, knock Everyone hit, it's your turn! 81 00:05:54,103 --> 00:05:58,191 Knock, knock, knock, knock Knock, knock, knock, knock, knock 82 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,618 Okay, this is ours. 83 00:06:09,202 --> 00:06:11,537 Alright, ready... Action. 84 00:06:13,164 --> 00:06:15,917 Now, it's time to tell From one to twenty 85 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:17,126 One 86 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:19,462 Two 87 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:21,005 THIS IS HOW YOU COUNT FROM ONE TO TWENTY 88 00:06:21,089 --> 00:06:23,383 I've been a Wiggle for 33 years. 89 00:06:24,592 --> 00:06:25,927 I'm the creative director. 90 00:06:26,427 --> 00:06:29,472 To date, I have produced all the music that we've already done. 91 00:06:30,014 --> 00:06:33,518 It's harder when we arrive at 17 and 18, right? So... 92 00:06:33,683 --> 00:06:37,814 I know I'm a bit eccentric. Well, not that you know, 93 00:06:37,897 --> 00:06:39,399 people tell me. 94 00:06:41,317 --> 00:06:44,404 But something we always did It’s about knowing our audience. 95 00:06:45,530 --> 00:06:48,950 We've done more than 10,000 shows over the years. 96 00:06:49,784 --> 00:06:52,245 Sometimes three, or even four, in one day. 97 00:06:53,621 --> 00:06:57,582 On Spotify we have 4 billion of reproductions. 98 00:06:58,584 --> 00:07:01,838 - Are you ready to move? - I'm ready to move! 99 00:07:01,921 --> 00:07:04,048 They are all ready to move? Yes! 100 00:07:04,173 --> 00:07:06,968 Yes, let's board on a dancing adventure! 101 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:12,348 The idea of creating the Wiggles came to me in college. 102 00:07:13,516 --> 00:07:17,937 I was studying to be a teacher and taking classes on early childhood education. 103 00:07:18,813 --> 00:07:23,693 The original Wiggles, Murray, Greg, me and Jeff, 104 00:07:24,068 --> 00:07:28,364 we had the idea of making an album of more children's music, 105 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:32,827 for us to put into practice what we learned at university. 106 00:07:33,786 --> 00:07:37,623 At the time, I was in a rock band Australian called "The Cockroaches". 107 00:07:39,876 --> 00:07:45,214 And we got some Cockroaches songs and we turned them into Wiggles songs. 108 00:07:52,847 --> 00:07:56,183 At first, people were suspicious a lot of us. 109 00:07:57,477 --> 00:07:59,770 Four men singing children's songs. 110 00:07:59,854 --> 00:08:02,940 "They will be doing this for the right reasons?" 111 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:06,444 Wiggles are always doing this 112 00:08:07,153 --> 00:08:11,407 so that, in the photographs, you know where our hands are. 113 00:08:12,575 --> 00:08:18,122 We made a cassette tape and took it to the Australian Broadcasting Commission. 114 00:08:18,706 --> 00:08:20,957 And one of the ladies told us: 115 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:25,004 "They'll be lucky if they sell 100 copies, but we released it.” 116 00:08:25,087 --> 00:08:29,091 And that first album sold around 300 thousand copies, I believe. 117 00:08:33,638 --> 00:08:37,140 As adults, we understand the enthusiasm surrounding the Rolling Stones, 118 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:41,437 but it's hard to understand young children going crazy for a rock band. 119 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,774 They have to see it to believe it. I already have my ticket. 120 00:08:45,316 --> 00:08:48,861 Wiggles have been the favorite group of preschool children, 121 00:08:48,945 --> 00:08:52,198 the equivalent of U2, if you will, for those who use diapers. 122 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:54,492 For some reason it worked. 123 00:08:55,117 --> 00:08:57,245 We were on Disney Channel four times a day. 124 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:01,165 We participated in the Macy's parade in New York. 125 00:09:01,249 --> 00:09:03,543 We played at Madison Square Garden. 126 00:09:04,502 --> 00:09:07,463 Robert De Niro and Jerry Seinfeld were there. 127 00:09:07,547 --> 00:09:09,882 So many amazing celebrities. 128 00:09:10,716 --> 00:09:14,178 Everyone has children... But we never let them that went to our heads. 129 00:09:14,262 --> 00:09:15,805 Wiggles are the biggest! 130 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:18,724 Goodbye, Wiggles! 131 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,102 Wiggles were pointed out 132 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:24,939 as the most profitable in the sector of Australian entertainment in 2005, 133 00:09:25,022 --> 00:09:27,525 with a gross income of 50 million dollars. 134 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:32,488 They were once again at the top of the BRW list, which includes the rock band AC/DC. 135 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:33,614 Very good. 136 00:09:34,824 --> 00:09:36,200 We should fan ourselves now. 137 00:09:42,206 --> 00:09:44,709 FUN SLIDE 138 00:09:51,215 --> 00:09:53,009 - What's my name? - Laurie! 139 00:09:53,801 --> 00:09:55,595 - And I have... - A pig! 140 00:09:55,678 --> 00:09:57,597 - In my... - Head! 141 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:58,848 Yes. 142 00:09:58,931 --> 00:10:02,977 Laurie has a pig in her head 143 00:10:03,811 --> 00:10:08,316 Laurie has a pig in her head 144 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:12,903 Laurie has a pig in her head 145 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,407 And keep it there all day 146 00:10:17,116 --> 00:10:21,746 Dad has an elephant on his head My father has an elephant on his head 147 00:10:21,871 --> 00:10:26,000 My father has an elephant on his head And keep it there all day 148 00:10:26,083 --> 00:10:28,044 Show me those elephant trunks. 149 00:10:28,836 --> 00:10:31,380 And flamingos... Oh my God! 150 00:10:35,676 --> 00:10:39,764 Now clap your hands Clap, clap, clap 151 00:10:39,847 --> 00:10:43,643 Clap, clap, clap Clap, clap 152 00:10:43,726 --> 00:10:50,191 Hit, hit, hit a lot 153 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:57,114 My whole career is this, music for children. 154 00:10:57,448 --> 00:10:59,950 It looks like a child who makes music, isn't it? 155 00:11:00,034 --> 00:11:02,912 Children's music, right? Am I the child or am I... 156 00:11:02,995 --> 00:11:07,124 Next, I think music for children it works. 157 00:11:09,877 --> 00:11:13,422 At first, she was a music teacher 158 00:11:13,506 --> 00:11:16,926 of preschool children and I was horrible the first year. 159 00:11:17,009 --> 00:11:20,846 I spent my days with my three-year-old kids. trying to sing a song, 160 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:22,390 and they didn't listen to me. 161 00:11:22,473 --> 00:11:24,934 They ran around the room and I thought: "No way. 162 00:11:25,017 --> 00:11:27,395 I don't know what to do with them. I don't control them." 163 00:11:28,437 --> 00:11:29,897 I cried every night. 164 00:11:30,564 --> 00:11:34,610 I remember feeling like I didn't know how to talk to kids. 165 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:37,029 They spoke a language that I didn't understand. 166 00:11:37,905 --> 00:11:40,908 And I tried to find out what was missing. 167 00:11:40,991 --> 00:11:43,828 "What do I need to captivate them?" 168 00:11:45,162 --> 00:11:47,998 Finally, I looked at the kids and said, "Look, 169 00:11:48,624 --> 00:11:50,334 What do you want to sing about?" 170 00:11:50,626 --> 00:11:55,297 And one kid said, "Dinosaurs." And the rest of the children 171 00:11:55,381 --> 00:11:57,758 who was in the room exploded with enthusiasm. 172 00:11:57,842 --> 00:12:00,219 "Yes! Dinosaurs. We want dinosaurs! 173 00:12:00,302 --> 00:12:04,432 We want a dinosaur song." And I said, "Guys, follow me. 174 00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:08,853 Start marching." And I said, "Minor chords. 175 00:12:08,978 --> 00:12:11,605 Marching sound. Let's be dinosaurs." 176 00:12:11,689 --> 00:12:15,484 We are the dinosaurs Marching, marching 177 00:12:15,568 --> 00:12:19,238 We are the dinosaurs What do you think about this? 178 00:12:19,321 --> 00:12:22,658 They started scratching each other as if they had claws, and I thought, "Heavens!" 179 00:12:24,785 --> 00:12:27,913 "Stop and eat." "I'm not going to eat yet." "Whenever I feel like it." 180 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:38,549 And I said, "Now, let's roar. Boys, everyone roar!" 181 00:12:44,013 --> 00:12:48,225 I remember when I wrote it, have thought, "Is this a silly song?" 182 00:12:51,353 --> 00:12:56,525 But I made my first album and sold it all copies in some three months. 183 00:12:59,695 --> 00:13:02,072 They called me from the Today Show. 184 00:13:02,406 --> 00:13:06,577 “We want you to come to the program. I think I should play in the square." 185 00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:09,121 People were freaking out. 186 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:19,632 One of the first things I learned was that if I didn't have something interactive, 187 00:13:19,715 --> 00:13:23,594 almost always with movement, in a song of mine, 188 00:13:23,677 --> 00:13:26,180 couldn't keep interested children. 189 00:13:32,102 --> 00:13:36,065 Ask them to move their body, set a rhythm, clap... 190 00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:38,526 Some of the newest 191 00:13:38,609 --> 00:13:41,570 they have been moving longer than they have been talking. 192 00:13:48,327 --> 00:13:50,579 I play a ska rhythm, fun. 193 00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:52,748 And even a five-month-old baby, 194 00:13:52,832 --> 00:13:55,709 who can barely sit, it will start to bounce. 195 00:14:00,923 --> 00:14:04,635 They respond very naturally like that. I almost feel like, as adults, 196 00:14:04,718 --> 00:14:07,888 sometimes we learn to repress it. 197 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:09,765 Thank you very much! 198 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:13,561 It is not often that adults allow yourself to be playful. 199 00:14:15,229 --> 00:14:19,066 Unless they drink enough, do not allow themselves to get up, 200 00:14:19,149 --> 00:14:21,610 sing and move, let go. 201 00:14:28,951 --> 00:14:33,205 I remember the "Macarena" case. Someone wrote a song for children 202 00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:35,499 and became a worldwide sensation. 203 00:14:38,502 --> 00:14:41,463 Part of the reason I love it writing songs for children 204 00:14:41,547 --> 00:14:46,051 is the feeling of freedom, of allowing ourselves 205 00:14:46,135 --> 00:14:48,679 enjoy what happens and play. 206 00:14:49,346 --> 00:14:51,265 But I am often asked: 207 00:14:51,348 --> 00:14:54,351 "You're going to want to make an album for adults in the future? 208 00:14:54,435 --> 00:14:56,520 Will you want to write songs for adults?" 209 00:14:56,604 --> 00:15:01,734 I feel like this is a thing what people think of immediately, 210 00:15:01,817 --> 00:15:07,281 how to make music for children if it wasn't... someone's first choice. 211 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:12,453 Let's get this out of here. 212 00:15:13,287 --> 00:15:15,164 There are termites in that stump. 213 00:15:16,415 --> 00:15:17,499 Wait a minute. 214 00:15:19,376 --> 00:15:20,586 So, yes. 215 00:15:22,838 --> 00:15:26,592 That. Go there. Come on, dead termite. Go there. 216 00:15:27,092 --> 00:15:28,177 Very good. 217 00:15:29,178 --> 00:15:32,473 I feel the heat of my fire Bonfire 218 00:15:32,556 --> 00:15:36,101 As the rain falls outside Out 219 00:15:36,352 --> 00:15:41,857 But I see a blue, blue sky Peeking through the rain tonight 220 00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:46,153 Small dead termite Do you see the blue, blue sky? 221 00:15:46,236 --> 00:15:51,200 No, you don't see, because he died It doesn't matter, more will come 222 00:15:51,283 --> 00:15:54,286 Someone will have to eat This trunk 223 00:15:55,204 --> 00:15:57,539 But the bonfire sings now It's you, bonfire! 224 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,752 That. Drum solo. 225 00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:05,089 It even sounds like jazz. 226 00:16:05,422 --> 00:16:09,426 A jazz bonfire Doing the drum solo 227 00:16:09,843 --> 00:16:12,304 When I sing, everything comes to life 228 00:16:12,846 --> 00:16:18,227 We go "hey!", we go "hey!" We go "hey!" 229 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:23,357 We go "hey!" Hey, little termite, little termite 230 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,359 By the bonfire, bonfire 231 00:16:27,653 --> 00:16:31,323 Yes, yes 232 00:16:33,909 --> 00:16:34,910 Thank you. 233 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:38,122 And cut. 234 00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:41,290 Rolling. Sound to be recorded. 235 00:16:43,711 --> 00:16:47,339 Whenever they say "rolling" (speed), I thought, "No, thank you. 236 00:16:47,423 --> 00:16:49,049 I don't want any speed." 237 00:16:56,682 --> 00:16:58,726 I've been in a rock band 238 00:16:58,809 --> 00:17:01,645 called "Presidents of the United States of America". 239 00:17:02,146 --> 00:17:05,190 In the early times, I think our strong point 240 00:17:05,273 --> 00:17:09,236 it was like being three nerds trying to "rock". 241 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:16,035 But we played a show in Seattle, in a club we were always going to 242 00:17:16,117 --> 00:17:19,538 and this weekend, There were a lot of people from the industry there. 243 00:17:19,621 --> 00:17:23,000 And the next day we had proposals from seven major publishers. 244 00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:26,377 We burst, and we could be a real rock band. 245 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:30,549 Ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome 246 00:17:30,632 --> 00:17:33,302 the Presidents of the United States of America. 247 00:17:34,887 --> 00:17:38,348 It was a crazy experience. We went to MTV 248 00:17:38,432 --> 00:17:41,518 and we played it on the radio, when it still mattered. 249 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:45,731 It was wonderful to be recognized, 250 00:17:45,814 --> 00:17:49,485 but it was also very scary, because suddenly there was so much 251 00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:51,111 out of our control. 252 00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:57,367 Imagine if they took me to a secret room, 253 00:17:57,451 --> 00:17:59,286 who pushed aside the velvet cord, 254 00:17:59,369 --> 00:18:01,830 I saw the room and thought: "When you get in there, 255 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:04,958 all my problems will disappear. I will be rich and famous." 256 00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:09,379 Then I realized there was another cord and another door... infinitely. 257 00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:11,840 And I knew I didn't have what it took 258 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:14,635 to continue to have to prove which was worth non-stop. 259 00:18:15,135 --> 00:18:16,553 And I really wanted to leave. 260 00:18:16,887 --> 00:18:19,765 I tried to convince the band to separate at the time. 261 00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:23,102 But if you're on a horse that drops bricks of gold, 262 00:18:23,185 --> 00:18:26,271 you hold on too tight and you ride it until sunset. 263 00:18:26,355 --> 00:18:27,648 That's what we did. 264 00:18:34,571 --> 00:18:38,784 But during this adventure, I had an inner voice telling me: 265 00:18:38,867 --> 00:18:42,788 "Congratulations on everything you have achieved, But you're not done yet. 266 00:18:42,871 --> 00:18:44,873 This isn't your last stop." 267 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:48,752 And I was like, "Really? Okay, I'll keep exploring." 268 00:18:48,836 --> 00:18:50,087 And I did it part time. 269 00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:54,800 I'm looking for songs now I see a little fern and a leaf 270 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:58,137 I wonder if they ever were Properly presented... 271 00:18:58,804 --> 00:19:02,474 And, in the end, these side projects became smaller, 272 00:19:02,558 --> 00:19:06,979 more acoustic and softer. I still didn't know who it was for. 273 00:19:07,938 --> 00:19:10,190 And then I met Kate, my wife. 274 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:16,405 Your art touched me deeply, and I thought: 275 00:19:16,488 --> 00:19:18,699 "Whatever planet this art is from, 276 00:19:18,782 --> 00:19:20,200 comes from the same planet 277 00:19:20,284 --> 00:19:22,953 of this song that I can't understand well." 278 00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:25,497 She sits at the table all day 279 00:19:25,664 --> 00:19:30,627 And it's basically printing money Don't tell the tax authorities 280 00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:33,589 - I pay taxes. - And truth. 281 00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:36,425 So I made some songs inspired by her works 282 00:19:36,508 --> 00:19:41,054 and, literally, a comic book lamp appeared over my head 283 00:19:41,138 --> 00:19:43,724 and I realized that it's music for children, 284 00:19:43,807 --> 00:19:46,435 for kids, for families, whatever you want. 285 00:19:46,518 --> 00:19:51,648 I realized that this voice that was it. 286 00:19:52,399 --> 00:19:55,110 And I was so relieved to have found 287 00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:58,488 who ended up freeing a torrent of songs. 288 00:19:59,114 --> 00:20:00,908 I started writing, without stopping. 289 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:14,379 Caspar Babypants started around 2008. 290 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:17,549 And then, in 2010, I started doing shows. 291 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:27,935 I never thought I could compete with the big ones, like Disney. 292 00:20:28,435 --> 00:20:31,647 I always thought it was a strong point be that unknown 293 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:35,817 that people bump into and think: "Wow, what a discovery!" 294 00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:45,827 When I started performing for children, 295 00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:51,667 I realized that the Presidents already had that innocent heart from the beginning. 296 00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:55,337 We allude indirectly to that heart, 297 00:20:55,462 --> 00:20:58,757 but Caspar concentrated on removing this outer layer 298 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,968 and reveal the innocent heart. 299 00:21:08,141 --> 00:21:09,393 It was a relief, 300 00:21:09,476 --> 00:21:12,688 because the first thing I felt it was that it didn't have to be cool. 301 00:21:13,313 --> 00:21:17,484 I was free from this culture. I don't need to be evaluated. 302 00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:20,445 And I saw it as a gift, because, from then on, 303 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:22,489 being creative is easy. 304 00:21:44,678 --> 00:21:46,972 Thanks for coming. I think we can start. 305 00:21:47,055 --> 00:21:48,056 CONCERT 306 00:21:48,181 --> 00:21:49,308 Are we ready? 307 00:21:49,391 --> 00:21:53,145 THE BATHROOM IS DOWN THERE, AMONG THE BUNNIES AND THE DONKIES. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS: 308 00:21:53,228 --> 00:21:56,064 My name is Johnny Only. Can they say, "Hello, Johnny Only?" 309 00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:58,608 - Hi, Johnny Only! - Very good. 310 00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:02,946 - Hi, how are you? - Hi, how are you? 311 00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:05,490 I'm glad you came today 312 00:22:06,283 --> 00:22:08,994 It's so good to see you 313 00:22:09,077 --> 00:22:11,705 Let's say "hello" in Spanish 314 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,875 - Everyone say: "Hola!" - Hello! 315 00:22:14,958 --> 00:22:17,669 - Everyone say: "Hola!" - Hello! 316 00:22:17,753 --> 00:22:20,547 - Everyone say: "Hola!" - Hello! 317 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:23,342 - Everyone say: "Hola!" - Hello! 318 00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:27,304 If they want to say "hello" in Spanish They just have to say, "Hola!" 319 00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:32,351 Do you mind if I take a direct photo? 320 00:22:33,226 --> 00:22:34,686 Here, it looks good. 321 00:22:36,897 --> 00:22:41,443 It's a very interesting perspective for me. 322 00:22:42,569 --> 00:22:45,113 Let me see... I want to get it the microphone in front. 323 00:22:50,118 --> 00:22:52,079 I've always walked around this area. 324 00:22:53,455 --> 00:22:57,876 I worked, above all, in one place, with weekly shows. 325 00:22:58,627 --> 00:23:02,339 What if we dance with our whole body? 326 00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:04,591 Yes, that's right. 327 00:23:05,175 --> 00:23:11,431 Yes, I suppose the big stars do this 328 00:23:11,515 --> 00:23:16,978 in stadiums and auditoriums, but, for me, having children sitting 329 00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:21,858 on the carpet in front of me... I love it. 330 00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:24,945 Let's go. Wait... 331 00:23:25,028 --> 00:23:26,947 You're making a comeback... 332 00:23:27,906 --> 00:23:30,534 And we can pet animals. There is a teaching farm. 333 00:23:30,617 --> 00:23:33,912 We can have parties before and after the show. 334 00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:52,222 I started in a garage band. At 18, she wanted to be a rock star 335 00:23:52,305 --> 00:23:55,142 and of course I didn't go. 336 00:23:57,436 --> 00:23:59,855 He worked on his own, as a DJ. 337 00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:04,109 He was a karaoke entertainer. I taught how to dance to country music. 338 00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:06,361 I tried to do a little bit of everything, you know? 339 00:24:10,782 --> 00:24:15,287 And had no appreciation by music for children, 340 00:24:15,412 --> 00:24:17,038 until I have my children. 341 00:24:21,418 --> 00:24:23,837 One of the ways to interact with them 342 00:24:23,962 --> 00:24:26,506 was playing the guitar and singing. 343 00:24:36,099 --> 00:24:40,145 It immediately came to me an idea... I know! 344 00:24:40,228 --> 00:24:41,897 Why not make music for children? 345 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:43,440 My name is Johnny Only. 346 00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:47,319 - Say: "Hello, Johnny Only." - Hi, Johnny Only! 347 00:24:52,741 --> 00:24:56,369 I played all the children's songs that I could remember. 348 00:24:57,787 --> 00:25:00,081 I worked at the Jewish Community Center. 349 00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:02,209 I spent some time in one of the churches. 350 00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:06,004 We received around 100, 200 people. 351 00:25:08,089 --> 00:25:11,051 The boys lined up, at the end, to give me a hug. 352 00:25:12,427 --> 00:25:13,762 It was wonderful. 353 00:25:14,554 --> 00:25:16,806 Johnny, you are fantastic! 354 00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:19,351 Thanks. Thanks for coming. 355 00:25:22,479 --> 00:25:26,358 After a while, the same songs they started to tire me and I thought: 356 00:25:26,441 --> 00:25:28,068 "I need new material." 357 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:32,781 And I started writing originals, so that you can then present them. 358 00:25:44,459 --> 00:25:46,503 I'm still writing "Hat Song", 359 00:25:46,586 --> 00:25:48,964 despite having been playing it for several weeks now. 360 00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:52,592 This verse here needs to be worked on. 361 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,010 Michaela, are you there? 362 00:25:54,427 --> 00:25:57,722 You'll say, "What hat is that?" And I'm like, "It's a cowboy hat." 363 00:25:57,806 --> 00:26:00,684 - Yes. - Let's go. 364 00:26:03,603 --> 00:26:05,063 What hat is that? 365 00:26:05,855 --> 00:26:07,649 It would be like this... 366 00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:13,863 Perfect. And then I would respond. 367 00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:20,036 A cowboy hat! 368 00:26:33,049 --> 00:26:36,177 I think writing songs that children identify 369 00:26:36,511 --> 00:26:39,514 is, in itself, an art form very specialized. 370 00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:49,149 Yes, it got better. A little higher. Let's go. 371 00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:16,217 The mistake is thinking that it's easy... 372 00:27:19,721 --> 00:27:23,558 ...that what we do is easy. It's not true. 373 00:27:24,017 --> 00:27:27,896 Only when we start to do it We realize that it is not easy at all. 374 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,317 Children are very sincere. 375 00:27:32,901 --> 00:27:36,071 Either they will like it or they won't like it. 376 00:27:36,821 --> 00:27:38,948 It wasn't good, but it was cool. 377 00:27:39,532 --> 00:27:42,285 Especially eight and nine year olds. 378 00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:44,829 They look at everything with an air of: 379 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:49,000 "That impresses me. What's different about you?" 380 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:52,087 These kids intimidate me. 381 00:27:55,423 --> 00:27:58,176 I'm very new to the world of music for children. 382 00:27:58,927 --> 00:28:01,596 But I've been making music for a long time. 383 00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:06,309 I rap, I sing, I produce, I write. 384 00:28:15,235 --> 00:28:17,987 And for five years, I was bassist and musical co-director 385 00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:20,198 on a Beyoncé tour. 386 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:32,794 And ever since then, I've been Divinity Roxx, 387 00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:36,047 I've been into rock, hip-hop, jazz fusion. 388 00:28:36,131 --> 00:28:40,468 All very positive, but still, with some existential angst, you know? 389 00:28:47,934 --> 00:28:52,105 I did this for some time, until a friend called me and said: 390 00:28:52,188 --> 00:28:55,692 "I'm working with Scholastic in a preschool education program. 391 00:28:55,775 --> 00:28:57,944 Would you like to write music for him?" 392 00:28:58,528 --> 00:29:00,655 And I said, "Yes." 393 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:21,217 And I thought: "Okay, I accepted this project. 394 00:29:21,301 --> 00:29:25,722 Maybe I should make an album. I'm an artist. Why not?" 395 00:29:28,391 --> 00:29:31,144 Historically, when we think in music for children, 396 00:29:31,227 --> 00:29:34,481 if you don't appear on PBS or Disney, 397 00:29:35,064 --> 00:29:39,319 you're making folk music and that's what the kids are hearing. 398 00:29:58,379 --> 00:30:02,425 I know a lot of parents look for music 399 00:30:02,509 --> 00:30:04,803 children identify with. 400 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:08,848 But if there is only folk music, they will not identify with it. 401 00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:11,476 I think that was the reason for the enthusiasm 402 00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:13,436 to see me enter this space. 403 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,855 Because we need to see more different voices. 404 00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:20,443 I grew up in a hip-hop era where hip-hop was for everyone. 405 00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:21,986 It was education and entertainment. 406 00:30:24,781 --> 00:30:27,700 I think of A Tribe Called Quest. 407 00:30:32,914 --> 00:30:37,710 I think about Busta Rhymes and in Leaders of the New School. 408 00:30:41,339 --> 00:30:45,510 My God! I'm showing my age. I think about Slick Rick. 409 00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:51,808 All this music was so positive, inspiring and fun. 410 00:30:54,227 --> 00:30:58,523 So I started working on the album Ready Set Go!, for children. 411 00:30:58,606 --> 00:31:01,734 It's one of those songs that doesn't get out of your head, at all! 412 00:31:09,617 --> 00:31:13,037 And I got a Grammy nomination for my children's album. 413 00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:15,415 I was really surprised. 414 00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:22,255 The Roxx Divinity, boys! 415 00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:28,553 I learn, above all, when I play live and I'm still trying 416 00:31:28,636 --> 00:31:31,806 understand what works and what doesn't work. 417 00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:36,102 I don't have a formula. 418 00:31:36,603 --> 00:31:41,065 My entire artistic identity and how music has been turned on 419 00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:45,278 to the fact that he plays bass, But the kids don't want to know. 420 00:31:45,778 --> 00:31:47,530 They don't want to know! 421 00:31:48,364 --> 00:31:49,949 Parents, yes... 422 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:54,996 I play a bass solo, and the parents: "That's right, big bass!" 423 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:58,541 But the boys say, "There... Can we get back to music?" 424 00:31:58,666 --> 00:32:02,295 Departure, leave, escape Departure, departure, departure, escape 425 00:32:02,879 --> 00:32:06,925 I'm still learning in this genre. I feel like I don't know anything. 426 00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:11,971 Thank you all very much! Have fun at Kidsapalooza! 427 00:32:15,391 --> 00:32:18,519 A, B, C, D, E, F... 428 00:32:19,729 --> 00:32:21,773 - G... - H, I, J, K... 429 00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:23,858 L, M, N, O... 430 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,610 Poop. 431 00:32:27,362 --> 00:32:30,782 Q, R, S... 432 00:32:30,865 --> 00:32:33,242 - T, U... - V... 433 00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:36,287 W, X, Y and Z 434 00:32:36,371 --> 00:32:37,830 I don't know the rest. 435 00:32:37,914 --> 00:32:42,502 Now, I know my burger 436 00:32:49,258 --> 00:32:52,887 When we are not parents, they say that all music for children is horrible 437 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:56,349 and that we should avoid it until we have children, 438 00:32:56,432 --> 00:32:58,267 until we have to listen to it. 439 00:32:58,351 --> 00:33:01,562 Think of it as something that serves to appease. 440 00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:03,106 ROCK CRITIC 441 00:33:03,231 --> 00:33:08,236 Something to distract a child with who has not yet developed a taste, 442 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:11,531 to be able to truly enjoy music. 443 00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:20,415 As a father of three children, thirteen, ten and three years old, 444 00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:24,043 everything you wanted to avoid it was being the "cool dad." 445 00:33:24,293 --> 00:33:27,839 "Son, this is Captain Beefheart, 446 00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:30,758 You really have to..." I didn't want to be that father. 447 00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:34,554 But, as a rock critic, as a professional snob, 448 00:33:34,637 --> 00:33:38,766 I've always been interested in art and for science 449 00:33:39,058 --> 00:33:41,853 who are behind a good song for children. 450 00:33:43,938 --> 00:33:45,857 Children love something let it stay in your ear. 451 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:49,402 Old MacDonald There was a farm, ia-ia-ó 452 00:33:49,485 --> 00:33:54,365 A repeated melodic phrase for about three, five or seven seconds. 453 00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:58,202 Wouldn't you say in those words, but they know it when they hear it. 454 00:33:58,286 --> 00:34:00,204 Yes sir, three bags full 455 00:34:01,789 --> 00:34:05,168 - Dona Aranha climbed the wall - The Spider Lady... 456 00:34:05,251 --> 00:34:06,669 It stays in your ear. 457 00:34:06,753 --> 00:34:09,213 The bus wheels move Round and round... 458 00:34:09,297 --> 00:34:13,342 The first song my daughter liked was "Wheels on the Bus". 459 00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:17,096 This song was conceived perfectly to delight children. 460 00:34:17,179 --> 00:34:20,558 - The bus wheels move - Round and round 461 00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:23,643 Round and round Round and round 462 00:34:23,728 --> 00:34:26,355 It has a very repetitive melody and rhythmic, 463 00:34:26,438 --> 00:34:28,858 but it's always introducing new characters. 464 00:34:29,025 --> 00:34:31,444 There is always something new happening. 465 00:34:31,569 --> 00:34:32,612 Up and down... 466 00:34:32,695 --> 00:34:36,866 Because children want security, but they also want surprises. 467 00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:39,744 And I thought, when I heard her sing that song, 468 00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:43,498 absorbing that music: “Is she imagining the bus? 469 00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:45,625 Do you think you're on the bus? 470 00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:47,710 Or do you just like the sound, the movement 471 00:34:47,793 --> 00:34:49,879 and the fun spirit?" 472 00:34:49,962 --> 00:34:52,422 - ... around the city... - City... 473 00:34:52,547 --> 00:34:54,467 I have to go poop. 474 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:57,637 It's okay, honey. You better go do it. 475 00:34:58,054 --> 00:35:00,640 You better go do it. It's a good time for that. 476 00:35:00,723 --> 00:35:02,058 Parents tell me: 477 00:35:02,183 --> 00:35:05,311 "It must be good to make children's music, you can say whatever you want, 478 00:35:05,394 --> 00:35:07,480 that they are happy with the sound." 479 00:35:07,563 --> 00:35:10,650 It's just that it's not like that at all. In reality, it is the opposite. 480 00:35:10,733 --> 00:35:14,237 I feel like in an alternative rock band, 481 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,240 could read the phone book with the right dose of attitude, 482 00:35:17,323 --> 00:35:19,659 distort everything a little, and it would be done. 483 00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:21,661 I wouldn't need to write anything else. 484 00:35:23,412 --> 00:35:27,917 It's time for "Yummy Yummy Fruit Salad"! 485 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,586 Let's do the moves together. 486 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,676 Fruit salad, how good, how good Fruit salad, how good, how good 487 00:35:37,093 --> 00:35:39,345 Children don't think like adults. 488 00:35:39,637 --> 00:35:44,058 I would say that 90% of adult songs are about falling in love. 489 00:35:44,183 --> 00:35:47,186 Children are not interested in that. 490 00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:51,357 We have to speak to them in one language that they understand. 491 00:35:52,525 --> 00:35:54,652 They love to sing songs about food. 492 00:35:54,735 --> 00:35:58,156 We can't put on a show without the "Fruit Salad Yummy". 493 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,576 How good, how good, how good How good, fruit salad 494 00:36:01,659 --> 00:36:03,244 They get excited. 495 00:36:03,619 --> 00:36:06,956 They can learn about all parts of your life through music. 496 00:36:07,206 --> 00:36:09,750 - Hot potato - Hot potato 497 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:12,712 - Hot potato - Hot potato 498 00:36:12,753 --> 00:36:14,589 Hot potato, hot potato... 499 00:36:14,672 --> 00:36:16,966 And something I've always believed 500 00:36:17,049 --> 00:36:20,595 is that music for children must be associated with gestures. 501 00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:24,515 - Cold spaghetti, cold spaghetti - Cold spaghetti, cold spaghetti 502 00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:26,559 All the great Wiggles songs, 503 00:36:26,642 --> 00:36:31,022 to "Hot Potato, Hot Potato", have gestures very simple for children, 504 00:36:31,105 --> 00:36:33,149 are fully interactive. 505 00:36:33,524 --> 00:36:37,320 - Hot potato, hot potato - Hot potato, hot potato 506 00:36:37,403 --> 00:36:40,364 And kids love repetition. 507 00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:44,202 They love what comes next. They love to know what's next. 508 00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:47,455 My daughter Lucia loved it the song "Sing with Me". 509 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,002 And he listened to it 43 times in a row. We counted. 510 00:36:53,961 --> 00:36:58,049 For mom and dad, it's very difficult listen to the same song over and over again. 511 00:36:58,716 --> 00:37:02,470 But you can also give it to children a sense of self-esteem 512 00:37:02,929 --> 00:37:05,556 and self-confidence: "I can do this." 513 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,810 And that's what we want, we want that they feel good about themselves. 514 00:37:19,278 --> 00:37:23,032 When I started performing for children, I realized very quickly 515 00:37:23,115 --> 00:37:25,576 Why is the music "If You Are Content, 516 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:27,954 Bate as Palmas" is such a huge success. 517 00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:32,333 If you are happy Clap your hands 518 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:36,379 If you are happy Clap your hands... 519 00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:39,298 I think it's the best children's song ever. 520 00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:42,677 If you are happy Clap your hands 521 00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:46,138 If you are happy Clap your hands 522 00:37:46,222 --> 00:37:49,850 If you are happy Want to show everyone 523 00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:53,145 If you are happy Clap your hands 524 00:37:53,229 --> 00:37:55,564 Most people might think: "If you are happy, 525 00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:57,441 clap your hands... You could write that." 526 00:37:57,525 --> 00:38:01,070 And yes, the guitar part It's not difficult, I admit. 527 00:38:01,153 --> 00:38:02,780 If you're happy... 528 00:38:02,905 --> 00:38:06,450 But we've heard it a million times and no one says: 529 00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:07,952 "I hate this song." 530 00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:10,246 Of course we won't listen to her, alone, on the iPod. 531 00:38:10,329 --> 00:38:12,290 But, if we are with children: 532 00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:15,835 "They want to sing 'If You're Content, Clap your hands?'" 533 00:38:16,627 --> 00:38:18,087 I love this song! 534 00:38:22,341 --> 00:38:27,179 One of the things that is unbelievably important thing is that, for children, 535 00:38:27,263 --> 00:38:30,308 there's that feeling of "it's my song". 536 00:38:34,186 --> 00:38:37,440 It's not music for adults, It's something different, 537 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:40,568 gives them a sense of respect, the fact that an adult says: 538 00:38:40,651 --> 00:38:43,988 "Here, you can do this. This is yours." 539 00:38:45,531 --> 00:38:50,202 There's something about this genre that makes children feel that it is truly theirs. 540 00:38:50,286 --> 00:38:54,582 It could be your first experience when it comes to making aesthetic choices. 541 00:38:57,501 --> 00:39:00,212 Very good! Palms for you. 542 00:39:01,547 --> 00:39:02,590 Palminhas! 543 00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:05,634 All the dynamics of the song for children to be considered 544 00:39:05,718 --> 00:39:09,513 minor is a mystery to me. 545 00:39:09,597 --> 00:39:11,515 I don't understand why. 546 00:39:11,974 --> 00:39:14,810 When I started acting for families, 547 00:39:14,894 --> 00:39:16,729 I researched the genre a little. 548 00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:20,858 There were a lot of educational things and "instruction manuals". 549 00:39:20,941 --> 00:39:23,694 Are you ready to brush those teeth? 550 00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:25,988 Here's a song for you to listen to at the same time. 551 00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:27,365 Let's go! 552 00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:28,532 But in my case, 553 00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:31,744 I knew clearly that I didn't want be educational at all. 554 00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:36,415 I never wrote a song about washing teeth nor about the alphabet. 555 00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:38,376 I never wrote about how to count. 556 00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:47,093 This is for the parents and the school. We learn things at school. 557 00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:49,887 When you play a Caspar album, you will fly. 558 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:05,319 Writing for children It's a beautiful opportunity 559 00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:09,240 not having any rules of gravity, time or space. 560 00:40:09,323 --> 00:40:11,617 A jellyfish can ride a bicycle. 561 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:13,911 A bear can change color. 562 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,288 And a flea can have dogs. 563 00:40:23,879 --> 00:40:26,757 I love the opportunity to be strange and surreal 564 00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:30,594 and do not tell children to use imagination, but use mine. 565 00:40:39,228 --> 00:40:41,605 When I made the Caspar Babypants albums, 566 00:40:41,689 --> 00:40:43,816 sat down to listen to the song where he worked 567 00:40:43,899 --> 00:40:47,111 and I thought about a family, a car, 568 00:40:47,361 --> 00:40:51,365 all full of heat and hunger, tired and upset, 569 00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:52,908 needing to pee. 570 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,704 I still see them if I close my eyes. They are all so upset. 571 00:40:58,038 --> 00:41:01,250 Then I put the music on, I listened to her and thought: 572 00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:03,294 "Is this song going to help that family?" 573 00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:13,762 And I began to realize what I accomplished the function I wanted, 574 00:41:13,846 --> 00:41:16,974 which meant bringing the whole family together in the same division. 575 00:41:17,224 --> 00:41:19,143 I get so many emails saying: 576 00:41:19,226 --> 00:41:22,146 "I dropped the kids off at school and I only realized when I got home 577 00:41:22,229 --> 00:41:25,065 that I heard Caspar Babypants all the way." 578 00:41:25,858 --> 00:41:28,235 This is so rewarding. I adore. 579 00:41:33,741 --> 00:41:37,328 I think it's a beautiful opportunity for children to have experiences 580 00:41:37,411 --> 00:41:42,958 with media, music and films that are rich and imaginative, 581 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:47,213 instead of sketchy, tacky and simplistic. 582 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:48,923 The "Baby Shark"... 583 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,137 What does your t-shirt say? 584 00:41:56,138 --> 00:41:57,223 "Baby Shark." 585 00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,817 There are so many things to the Baby Shark phenomenon 586 00:42:08,901 --> 00:42:10,861 which are absolutely things... 587 00:42:10,945 --> 00:42:11,946 CULTURAL CRITICISM 588 00:42:12,029 --> 00:42:13,030 ... modern. 589 00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:18,285 The idea that two-year-olds they could love a song so much 590 00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:21,038 that would make it the video most watched YouTube 591 00:42:21,121 --> 00:42:24,875 ever, for example. This is really strange. 592 00:42:25,084 --> 00:42:29,630 Mommy doo, doo Mommy doo, doo 593 00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:33,342 One of my daughters arrived and was singing part of a song 594 00:42:33,425 --> 00:42:35,052 I hadn't heard about a shark. 595 00:42:35,135 --> 00:42:39,181 And then I discovered that that it was serious. 596 00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:42,351 Alexa, put on "Baby Shark"! 597 00:42:43,727 --> 00:42:46,105 "Baby Shark" by Pinkfong. 598 00:43:02,663 --> 00:43:05,249 Get ready to have "Baby Shark" in my head all day. 599 00:43:05,833 --> 00:43:06,834 Believe it or not, 600 00:43:06,917 --> 00:43:09,837 became the YouTube video most viewed of all time, 601 00:43:09,878 --> 00:43:12,339 and we just increased the count. 602 00:43:12,548 --> 00:43:14,174 Do you know why it stays in your head? 603 00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:16,427 This song makes me so curious, 604 00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:17,761 something happened. 605 00:43:20,139 --> 00:43:24,893 "Baby Shark" brings together many of the qualities of the best songs for children. 606 00:43:25,686 --> 00:43:28,188 Repeat, with slight differences. 607 00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:32,943 There are hand movements, cool and fun to do, 608 00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:34,737 but it sounds something different. 609 00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:36,530 Maybe it sounds like what parents hear. 610 00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:39,700 It has a certain pop touch 611 00:43:39,783 --> 00:43:44,496 which I think sets it apart of what we consider music for children. 612 00:43:45,372 --> 00:43:49,335 Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo... 613 00:43:49,418 --> 00:43:52,463 For much of my career, I wanted to be able 614 00:43:52,546 --> 00:43:54,590 to write a great song. 615 00:43:55,257 --> 00:43:59,136 And I would say the height of my creativity 616 00:43:59,219 --> 00:44:03,098 happened when I started playing my version of "Baby Shark". 617 00:44:05,059 --> 00:44:08,020 The original "Baby Shark" by Johnny Only. 618 00:44:15,402 --> 00:44:18,614 Originally it was a song sung in camps 619 00:44:18,906 --> 00:44:21,450 of elementary school campers and secondary. 620 00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:25,329 Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo 621 00:44:25,412 --> 00:44:27,289 Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo 622 00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:30,000 Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo... 623 00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:32,961 It started around the 80s and 90s. 624 00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:35,839 ... doo, doo, doo, doo Mommy Shark, doo, doo... 625 00:44:35,923 --> 00:44:39,051 They did it without music, in the style of traditional songs. 626 00:44:39,218 --> 00:44:43,222 ... doo, doo, doo, doo Shark Attack, doo, doo, doo, doo... 627 00:44:43,305 --> 00:44:46,600 It was a fun activity, 628 00:44:46,684 --> 00:44:49,061 for the boys to improvise and create something new, 629 00:44:49,144 --> 00:44:51,689 an increasingly bloody version and horrible. 630 00:44:51,772 --> 00:44:54,483 Lost a leg, doo, doo, doo, doo... 631 00:44:54,566 --> 00:44:57,736 They could be left without an arm, "doo, doo, doo, doo, doo", 632 00:44:57,820 --> 00:45:00,823 without a leg, and began jumping on the hoof. 633 00:45:01,156 --> 00:45:04,493 Lost your mind, doo, doo, doo, doo Lost his mind, doo, doo... 634 00:45:04,576 --> 00:45:07,746 I loved it. And it was in the public domain, 635 00:45:08,414 --> 00:45:12,251 So I adapted it for my audience younger. 636 00:45:12,626 --> 00:45:16,505 For me, it was very important that it was the version without dismemberments, 637 00:45:16,588 --> 00:45:19,174 without blood, guts and violence. 638 00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:23,387 We made the video in a swimming pool. 639 00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:26,390 It was so fun. The boys all participated. 640 00:45:27,558 --> 00:45:30,769 I posted it on YouTube in 2011. 641 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:32,938 It was very well received. 642 00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:39,361 So, I think it was in 2016, Pinkfong released theirs. 643 00:45:42,156 --> 00:45:43,157 Pinkfong. 644 00:45:43,741 --> 00:45:47,619 Pinkfong is an educational company from South Korea. 645 00:45:48,036 --> 00:45:50,914 And they have a lot of videos online 646 00:45:50,998 --> 00:45:54,084 in a style very similar to YouTube. 647 00:45:56,420 --> 00:46:01,884 Bright animated videos and very simple songs for children, 648 00:46:01,967 --> 00:46:03,260 some we recognize. 649 00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:09,725 And your business model is based on generating 650 00:46:09,808 --> 00:46:10,851 lots of content. 651 00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:13,604 The more people see them, they receive more from advertising. 652 00:46:13,687 --> 00:46:14,980 That's how it works. 653 00:46:15,647 --> 00:46:19,359 So if you need songs at such a high rate, 654 00:46:19,485 --> 00:46:21,278 they won't be able to pay for them. 655 00:46:21,904 --> 00:46:24,364 So they want public domain songs 656 00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:27,242 or that do not belong to anyone, that everyone can use. 657 00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:33,290 But if they did something to this song that is truly unique, 658 00:46:33,415 --> 00:46:36,210 for example, a certain musical arrangement, 659 00:46:36,293 --> 00:46:38,962 a certain structure, a certain melody, 660 00:46:39,046 --> 00:46:42,132 can register this change with copyright. 661 00:46:42,216 --> 00:46:45,385 Even so, they do not the rights to the entire song, 662 00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:49,598 but if anyone wants to do your exact version, 663 00:46:50,724 --> 00:46:52,476 you have legal rights. 664 00:46:53,811 --> 00:46:55,521 I started with the sound of water. 665 00:46:55,729 --> 00:46:58,816 And so do they. Then it was in the sun. 666 00:47:01,318 --> 00:47:03,779 Pinkfong's is also in sun. 667 00:47:07,908 --> 00:47:11,954 My tempo is about of 116 beats per minute. 668 00:47:12,621 --> 00:47:16,291 Their progress is about of 116 beats per minute. 669 00:47:17,125 --> 00:47:20,879 Then I added a deeper voice when they say "Papá Tubarão". 670 00:47:21,964 --> 00:47:24,299 And they did exactly the same. 671 00:47:26,009 --> 00:47:29,471 Didn't speed up the pace even the same as mine, 672 00:47:30,681 --> 00:47:31,932 but it was close. 673 00:47:32,015 --> 00:47:34,059 Then they slowed it down again, like me. 674 00:47:34,142 --> 00:47:36,770 It was really incredible. 675 00:47:37,563 --> 00:47:40,190 The same melody, the same chord structure. 676 00:47:40,691 --> 00:47:42,401 And, of course, the Pinkfong version 677 00:47:42,484 --> 00:47:47,364 had exactly the same letter and the same target audience. 678 00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:50,117 It was so similar. 679 00:47:56,999 --> 00:48:03,422 I remember the worst thing was, suddenly... 680 00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:06,717 Alexa, give it to "Baby Shark". 681 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,220 ... Pinkfong's version became the standard version of "Baby Shark". 682 00:48:10,304 --> 00:48:14,474 Here's an excerpt from "Baby Shark", by Johnny Only, on Amazon Music. 683 00:48:19,479 --> 00:48:20,772 Tell Alexa. 684 00:48:21,815 --> 00:48:25,694 He is well. Alexa, give it to "Baby Shark". 685 00:48:26,486 --> 00:48:28,155 "Baby Shark" by Pinkfong. 686 00:48:32,242 --> 00:48:36,580 It's the annoyingly catchy song which has become a global phenomenon. 687 00:48:36,663 --> 00:48:40,125 There seems to be no way to stop the unstoppable success of "Baby Shark." 688 00:48:40,667 --> 00:48:43,629 It was everywhere. It was on the Late Late Late Show 689 00:48:43,712 --> 00:48:46,798 and Pinkfong's YouTube channel has billions of views. 690 00:48:46,882 --> 00:48:49,092 It's viral on TikTok. 691 00:48:49,301 --> 00:48:52,471 The shark's song quickly became a viral dance challenge 692 00:48:52,846 --> 00:48:55,641 where people from all over the world are participating. 693 00:48:57,225 --> 00:48:59,394 "Baby Shark" has been a bonanza 694 00:48:59,561 --> 00:49:02,272 which has already given rise to several parodies. 695 00:49:02,439 --> 00:49:04,900 Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo Mommy Shark... 696 00:49:04,983 --> 00:49:07,653 It has even appeared in street demonstrations. 697 00:49:08,528 --> 00:49:11,573 Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo Baby Shark... 698 00:49:11,657 --> 00:49:14,952 This song will have already been played a billion times. 699 00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:17,287 More than 1600 million views on YouTube. 700 00:49:17,371 --> 00:49:20,290 - More than 2 billion... - 4500 million... 701 00:49:20,374 --> 00:49:21,458 Seven billion. 702 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:23,502 Fifteen billion views, 703 00:49:23,585 --> 00:49:26,129 making it the most watched video ever on YouTube. 704 00:49:28,006 --> 00:49:31,468 It's a known torture mechanism, used by the CIA and beyond, 705 00:49:31,551 --> 00:49:33,845 spend it nonstop for hours. 706 00:49:34,012 --> 00:49:38,475 Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo Baby Shark, doo, doo, doo, doo 707 00:49:38,558 --> 00:49:44,648 Baby Shark, Baby Shark... 708 00:49:51,029 --> 00:49:54,491 I was upset. I was very upset. 709 00:49:54,574 --> 00:49:58,620 And I stopped touching her, because he was very upset. 710 00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:08,755 Ryan, if the most important thing is the content, What can we expect from Pinkfong? 711 00:50:08,839 --> 00:50:11,508 Can we expect a "Baby Shark" movie? 712 00:50:11,758 --> 00:50:13,468 A "Baby Shark" musical? 713 00:50:13,927 --> 00:50:17,764 A program, drawings? What do they have in the pipeline, content-wise? 714 00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:22,936 The goal is to make a theme park or perhaps a "Baby Shark" cruise. 715 00:50:25,605 --> 00:50:28,984 When "Baby Shark" broke, a small part of me thought: 716 00:50:29,484 --> 00:50:30,861 "I'm right here. 717 00:50:31,361 --> 00:50:35,198 I can't have any success either, since I strive for quality?" 718 00:50:37,743 --> 00:50:42,581 But I wonder if the channels won't be open to music like mine. 719 00:50:42,664 --> 00:50:45,500 I wonder if the channels aren't overpowered 720 00:50:45,584 --> 00:50:49,504 by a simplistic and exuberant Technicolor, 721 00:50:50,172 --> 00:50:52,049 in which the forms of expression 722 00:50:52,132 --> 00:50:54,634 apparently more frivolous arrive to more people. 723 00:51:03,518 --> 00:51:06,313 I felt a little angry and vengeful. 724 00:51:09,024 --> 00:51:10,317 And, yes, I sued them. 725 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,902 It's been a while. 726 00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,196 The children's music artist, Johnny Only, 727 00:51:14,279 --> 00:51:18,658 filed a complaint in the District Court Seoul Power Plant in October 2018. 728 00:51:18,992 --> 00:51:20,994 Pinkfong rejects his claim, 729 00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:24,289 saying that "Baby Shark" is based in a traditional song 730 00:51:24,414 --> 00:51:26,500 which became public domain. 731 00:51:26,708 --> 00:51:29,961 In no way, I say 732 00:51:30,045 --> 00:51:33,757 that I have the rights to the version public domain. 733 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,135 My adaptation, yes, is protected by copyright. 734 00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:38,386 Daddy Shark... 735 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:42,265 Who owns "Baby Shark"? There's the answer we'd all like, 736 00:51:42,724 --> 00:51:45,352 that we all own from "Baby Shark", right? 737 00:51:46,228 --> 00:51:50,816 Pinkfong acts like "Baby Shark" was hers, and she is aggressive and protective 738 00:51:50,899 --> 00:51:54,861 like any company would be in relation to intellectual property 739 00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:58,573 worth millions, or even billions of dollars. 740 00:51:59,074 --> 00:52:04,704 Whether they own it or not, since they didn't write it, 741 00:52:05,163 --> 00:52:08,416 They didn't create it, they just popularized it, 742 00:52:08,542 --> 00:52:12,087 They may not even have created this exact version, 743 00:52:12,212 --> 00:52:15,632 I think that makes what they are to make it seem morally, 744 00:52:15,715 --> 00:52:18,135 and perhaps even legally, I suspect. 745 00:52:18,301 --> 00:52:21,054 From the traumas I went through as an adult, 746 00:52:22,055 --> 00:52:25,350 this is at the top, with the divorce 747 00:52:25,433 --> 00:52:28,186 and the legal battle for custody of my children. 748 00:52:29,104 --> 00:52:31,273 And my friends say: 749 00:52:31,356 --> 00:52:32,524 "Write another song." 750 00:52:33,066 --> 00:52:35,277 But that's not how it works. 751 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,653 What I feel is: 752 00:52:37,195 --> 00:52:39,823 "I did my best and now it's gone." 753 00:52:40,407 --> 00:52:42,826 Hi, I'm Johnny Only, from Silent Disco Rental. 754 00:52:42,951 --> 00:52:46,246 I just want to explain this, when they rent us headphones... 755 00:52:46,329 --> 00:52:48,039 I stopped writing songs. 756 00:52:48,498 --> 00:52:50,625 My attitude was to give up. 757 00:52:50,917 --> 00:52:53,003 I'll work in my basement, renting headphones 758 00:52:53,086 --> 00:52:54,588 from my Silent Disco business. 759 00:52:54,671 --> 00:52:57,465 Silent-disco-rental.com. 760 00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:01,011 I decided I didn't want it anymore music for children. 761 00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:08,935 Just one. 762 00:53:10,979 --> 00:53:12,022 Just that. 763 00:53:15,942 --> 00:53:18,153 - Yes. - Let's go. 764 00:53:18,236 --> 00:53:20,363 - Let's go. - One, two, three, four. 765 00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:25,202 It's so good to see you, it's great to see you 766 00:53:25,285 --> 00:53:27,829 How are you today? 767 00:53:28,121 --> 00:53:31,208 All the Wiggles entered for the best reasons. 768 00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:34,461 Everyone wants to do the best they can. They love the public. 769 00:53:36,588 --> 00:53:38,089 It's OK. Good job! 770 00:53:38,173 --> 00:53:42,260 You made Tsehay dance. That's always the goal. 771 00:53:43,678 --> 00:53:47,224 It's sad, but nowadays, there's a lot of stuff on YouTube 772 00:53:47,557 --> 00:53:50,685 that I wouldn't want to hear as an adult. 773 00:53:50,810 --> 00:53:54,397 Teddy bear, teddy bear, turn around 774 00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:56,566 It is done without thinking. 775 00:53:56,650 --> 00:53:58,443 ... touches the ground. 776 00:53:58,902 --> 00:54:02,113 They are things created by a computer or so. 777 00:54:02,447 --> 00:54:05,951 teddy bear, teddy bear Let's go to school 778 00:54:08,328 --> 00:54:11,706 There is something dystopian in artificial intelligence, or AI. 779 00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:14,125 I'm trying to keep an open mind, 780 00:54:14,209 --> 00:54:16,002 but... it scares me. 781 00:54:16,086 --> 00:54:18,463 The human being against the robot, 782 00:54:18,546 --> 00:54:21,508 in my head, It's a very rigid dichotomy. 783 00:54:21,591 --> 00:54:26,805 I don't need robots to write the songs for my children. 784 00:54:26,888 --> 00:54:29,349 Please don't do this. 785 00:54:29,557 --> 00:54:30,976 HOW TO MAKE AN AI CHANNEL FOR KIDS 786 00:54:31,059 --> 00:54:33,186 I know there are a lot of people out there 787 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:37,065 actively making money creating YouTube channels for kids. 788 00:54:37,399 --> 00:54:39,693 And they use an AI creator. 789 00:54:39,776 --> 00:54:41,945 Ask the AI ​​for a list of animals. 790 00:54:42,862 --> 00:54:45,115 Now, get the list and choose the ones you prefer. 791 00:54:45,991 --> 00:54:48,660 The AI ​​will write song lyrics for you. 792 00:54:49,494 --> 00:54:50,704 COPY 793 00:54:51,037 --> 00:54:52,038 NECKLACE 794 00:54:52,122 --> 00:54:53,581 Paste them into another AI application. 795 00:54:54,624 --> 00:54:59,379 If they indicate a genre of music, create a song for you. 796 00:54:59,546 --> 00:55:02,549 In very distant lands Where there are giant dinosaurs 797 00:55:02,632 --> 00:55:06,011 There's a tyrannosaurus roaring And triceratops galore 798 00:55:06,177 --> 00:55:08,054 If we don't like it, we click 799 00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:09,723 and IA writes another song. 800 00:55:10,557 --> 00:55:14,769 The brachiosaurus eats the leaves It's what you like most 801 00:55:15,353 --> 00:55:19,357 The velociraptor is fast and smart It's always on the move 802 00:55:20,025 --> 00:55:21,943 Dinosaurs, dinosaurs Big and small 803 00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:24,404 Go and see them They are fun and serene 804 00:55:25,947 --> 00:55:29,117 There must already be many of these channels. 805 00:55:30,201 --> 00:55:34,080 It's just a matter of time before someone learn to do this very well. 806 00:55:37,042 --> 00:55:38,710 Of course this is bad. 807 00:55:39,502 --> 00:55:40,837 Of course it's bad. 808 00:55:40,879 --> 00:55:43,381 Daddy finger, daddy finger Where are you? 809 00:55:44,215 --> 00:55:49,095 AI content is like crap most addictive there is, 810 00:55:50,347 --> 00:55:55,018 made by any robot, in a storage room somewhere, 811 00:55:55,101 --> 00:55:58,021 who is trying to dump thousands of YouTube videos 812 00:55:58,104 --> 00:55:59,356 for someone to make money. 813 00:56:00,357 --> 00:56:02,108 This is the opposite 814 00:56:02,192 --> 00:56:05,779 of what we want for our two year olds. 815 00:56:05,904 --> 00:56:09,532 I feel sorry for the people who do music for children, 816 00:56:09,616 --> 00:56:10,909 because it must be... 817 00:56:10,992 --> 00:56:13,286 I imagine it's like going to a party and... 818 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:15,789 "You can make a living doing music for adults, you know?" 819 00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:18,124 I don't know, they spend time with our children, 820 00:56:18,333 --> 00:56:20,794 they sing beautiful songs to them and they really have... 821 00:56:20,877 --> 00:56:23,755 They really pay attention to them, 822 00:56:23,838 --> 00:56:25,507 pay attention to your tastes 823 00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:28,301 and they try to keep their attention in a human way. 824 00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:32,597 And this, in contrast to a "factory of content" that only cares 825 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,600 let your son stay there sitting, drooling, 826 00:56:36,059 --> 00:56:39,396 without ever stopping... This is so bad. 827 00:56:40,188 --> 00:56:43,233 One, two, two, two, three 828 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,694 If they raise their hands You will have to download them 829 00:56:46,778 --> 00:56:49,614 Then they go to the right I want to see you shaking 830 00:56:49,697 --> 00:56:53,701 Shake, shake I want to see you shaking 831 00:56:53,952 --> 00:56:55,370 Shake 832 00:56:56,746 --> 00:56:58,331 Let's see what's going on... 833 00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:01,835 It's difficult to compete on platforms. 834 00:57:01,918 --> 00:57:03,795 It's hard to compete on YouTube. 835 00:57:03,962 --> 00:57:06,423 It's difficult for our music to reach to YouTube Kids. 836 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,344 And, if you're not on the app, you don't exist. 837 00:57:13,847 --> 00:57:18,143 We are small family businesses and, Many times, we don't survive, 838 00:57:18,643 --> 00:57:21,563 because big companies They arrive and finish us off. 839 00:57:26,317 --> 00:57:30,280 "Candle Chase", short video for YouTube. Action. 840 00:57:32,574 --> 00:57:37,662 In my window where you can see The glow of my menorah 841 00:57:37,871 --> 00:57:39,873 Newly covered in snow 842 00:57:40,123 --> 00:57:42,250 Don't lift too much, okay? 843 00:57:42,333 --> 00:57:44,127 - You do... - To stay ahead. 844 00:57:44,210 --> 00:57:46,129 - Above all. - I'll try not to exaggerate. 845 00:57:46,254 --> 00:57:49,090 Try not to put it in front of your face as possible. 846 00:57:49,174 --> 00:57:54,387 Eight nights full of light Happy Hanukkah 847 00:57:54,804 --> 00:57:57,223 Eight nights full of light 848 00:57:57,682 --> 00:58:00,435 It's an interesting place to be. 849 00:58:00,518 --> 00:58:05,231 I'm an artist, I'm a musician and I'm a businesswoman. 850 00:58:05,398 --> 00:58:08,735 I want to keep doing what am I doing 851 00:58:08,818 --> 00:58:12,030 and earn enough money for it to be a career. 852 00:58:12,906 --> 00:58:15,408 I had to relearn: "What is this YouTube?" 853 00:58:15,492 --> 00:58:16,951 "How can I make videos?" 854 00:58:17,035 --> 00:58:20,497 And try to find a new way to reach families. 855 00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:22,874 Let's use maraca eggs on this one. 856 00:58:23,249 --> 00:58:26,044 I realize now that I am the brand. 857 00:58:26,419 --> 00:58:28,963 I was very opposed to this when I started. 858 00:58:29,047 --> 00:58:31,466 "I'm not a brand, I'm a person." 859 00:58:31,549 --> 00:58:33,134 Hi, it's me, Laurie. 860 00:58:33,218 --> 00:58:36,554 But the transition was like: "Really? Is this what I'm doing?" 861 00:58:36,638 --> 00:58:37,639 I make audios. 862 00:58:37,722 --> 00:58:40,767 It's to listen, to sing, we use the body. 863 00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:43,937 And suddenly I couldn't make audio without the videos. 864 00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:45,021 It was difficult. 865 00:58:45,104 --> 00:58:47,815 And then we all fell 866 00:58:48,733 --> 00:58:51,694 My own daughter, I remembered now... We were at home, 867 00:58:51,778 --> 00:58:55,156 trying to do something with her on the couch, 868 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,326 and she just asked me to put on my DVD, 869 00:58:58,409 --> 00:59:01,454 with Laurie Berkner's original band. 870 00:59:01,996 --> 00:59:07,043 She didn't interact with me as a person. 871 00:59:07,126 --> 00:59:09,462 She just wanted to watch the DVD. 872 00:59:09,546 --> 00:59:13,049 And I thought, "This is horrible!" 873 00:59:16,344 --> 00:59:19,222 I had to find a way to keep things 874 00:59:19,305 --> 00:59:22,225 that are important to me, to keep doing something 875 00:59:22,308 --> 00:59:26,980 that is still true to who I am and what I want to create for children 876 00:59:27,105 --> 00:59:30,316 and let me remind you that it's my job. 877 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,902 And it is very important work. 878 00:59:38,032 --> 00:59:41,953 I remember singing a song bedtime called "The Great Big Dog". 879 00:59:43,288 --> 00:59:44,872 And part of it is... 880 00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:50,503 Mommy loves you, daddy loves you Everybody loves the baby 881 00:59:53,006 --> 00:59:56,050 Half of the children started crying when he sang. 882 00:59:56,843 --> 00:59:59,554 I remember one saying to me: "I miss my mommy." 883 01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:11,858 There is something very touching and full of love in a lullaby. 884 01:00:13,318 --> 01:00:17,864 It's the time when parents leave the room and the children are left in the dark. 885 01:00:18,197 --> 01:00:21,618 And there are so many things to fear and to be afraid of. 886 01:00:22,910 --> 01:00:25,997 It is often difficult to fall asleep when we are children. 887 01:00:27,665 --> 01:00:30,627 The lullaby serves to create this bond, 888 01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:35,590 this intimate moment that can be something rare with our parents. 889 01:00:43,056 --> 01:00:46,809 Making music for families It's a great opportunity 890 01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:49,354 to create this experience creating bonds, 891 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:56,569 for these two generations to come together through the love of sound, 892 01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:58,780 for the lyrics and the melody. 893 01:00:58,988 --> 01:01:00,865 And if we don't take advantage of this opportunity, 894 01:01:00,948 --> 01:01:04,702 we are depriving ourselves a beautiful result. 895 01:01:06,037 --> 01:01:09,374 Why do you like music? 896 01:01:10,041 --> 01:01:13,002 I like to sit next to my mother. 897 01:01:13,086 --> 01:01:15,421 Do you like to sit next to her When do you listen to music? 898 01:01:15,505 --> 01:01:16,506 Yes. 899 01:01:18,091 --> 01:01:20,093 Mom sings what before you go to sleep? 900 01:01:20,176 --> 01:01:24,013 Mom sings "Down by the Station" to me. 901 01:01:24,222 --> 01:01:26,516 And how do you feel when mommy sings? 902 01:01:27,475 --> 01:01:28,476 Well. 903 01:01:33,356 --> 01:01:34,440 Play this one. 904 01:01:36,067 --> 01:01:37,402 I'll do that first. 905 01:01:39,904 --> 01:01:42,073 - Keep this one. - I need the green pen. 906 01:01:42,156 --> 01:01:44,283 So, in that area. 907 01:01:45,702 --> 01:01:47,662 And I need you to do this. 908 01:01:49,664 --> 01:01:50,790 I make. 909 01:01:51,708 --> 01:01:53,418 Around 2020, 910 01:01:53,501 --> 01:01:57,130 I reached a point in which he had made 19 albums 911 01:01:57,338 --> 01:01:59,257 and 352 songs. 912 01:02:00,174 --> 01:02:02,969 And I felt like I had said it all. 913 01:02:04,387 --> 01:02:07,849 It was as if it had been extinguished the infinite volcano of songs 914 01:02:07,932 --> 01:02:10,768 that I had used until all the magma disappears. 915 01:02:10,852 --> 01:02:13,521 And I allowed it to cool. 916 01:02:13,771 --> 01:02:15,231 I made 352 songs. 917 01:02:17,108 --> 01:02:19,986 There are too many songs. I don't need more. 918 01:02:21,696 --> 01:02:23,281 But people want more. 919 01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:26,159 But people want more 920 01:02:26,242 --> 01:02:29,412 But I don't want to do more But people want more 921 01:02:31,122 --> 01:02:33,416 Musically, I moved on. 922 01:02:33,499 --> 01:02:36,794 It stayed behind, you know? 923 01:02:36,878 --> 01:02:38,212 But I'm very proud. 924 01:02:38,296 --> 01:02:41,674 I feel so happy to have had that time 925 01:02:41,758 --> 01:02:44,886 where I was so inspired and motivated. 926 01:02:44,969 --> 01:02:48,431 I look back and think: "I ended up doing three shows a day, 927 01:02:48,514 --> 01:02:49,599 three days in a row." 928 01:02:49,682 --> 01:02:53,019 Where did all these kangaroos come from? Holy God! 929 01:02:56,647 --> 01:03:00,193 I feel like back when we were a pop band and we played on the radio, 930 01:03:00,276 --> 01:03:04,572 the commercial part got involved in the creative process 931 01:03:04,655 --> 01:03:07,408 and ended up corrupting him in a certain way. 932 01:03:07,492 --> 01:03:11,245 So, at the beginning of Caspar, I decided to do an experiment, 933 01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:13,539 which consisted of doing nothing. 934 01:03:13,831 --> 01:03:16,709 Don't spend time doing too much advertising 935 01:03:16,834 --> 01:03:20,213 or finding ways to create a trend, 936 01:03:20,296 --> 01:03:24,050 just make such good songs as possible 937 01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:26,052 and let them do the work. 938 01:03:31,766 --> 01:03:35,102 Due to age group that I work with, 939 01:03:35,186 --> 01:03:38,356 every five years, my whole audience changes, 940 01:03:38,439 --> 01:03:41,025 what applies to everyone artists for children. 941 01:03:41,734 --> 01:03:46,405 Fortunately, I think the influence of happy parents over other parents, 942 01:03:46,489 --> 01:03:49,283 who advise us, enough to keep the ball rolling, 943 01:03:49,367 --> 01:03:51,536 even if you don't sing live or make new albums. 944 01:03:51,661 --> 01:03:52,662 Thanks for coming! 945 01:03:52,745 --> 01:03:54,956 I tried to make something that would last forever 946 01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:58,000 and so far it seems that has been past 947 01:03:58,084 --> 01:03:59,210 from generation to generation, 948 01:03:59,293 --> 01:04:01,587 and I don't do anything to make that happen. 949 01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:06,259 We're at the end of the show. 950 01:04:06,342 --> 01:04:08,636 It's time to say goodbye. Two hands in the air. 951 01:04:10,805 --> 01:04:15,560 Over the years, with the Wiggles, I did thousands and thousands of shows. 952 01:04:16,644 --> 01:04:17,979 I'm 60 years old. 953 01:04:18,312 --> 01:04:21,315 I've been Wiggle for more than half of my life. 954 01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:24,318 Thanks. 955 01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:29,156 Madison, thank you very much. 956 01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:32,243 Wiggles have so long, 957 01:04:32,326 --> 01:04:35,746 that we have several generations of fans. 958 01:04:37,331 --> 01:04:41,377 Sometimes we do shows for our original audience. 959 01:04:41,961 --> 01:04:43,754 They grew up with the Wiggles. 960 01:04:43,838 --> 01:04:48,050 Now they're 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30 years. 961 01:04:49,343 --> 01:04:52,221 And they come with the t-shirts and hats 962 01:04:52,305 --> 01:04:55,182 when they were four years old, and it's crazy. 963 01:04:55,266 --> 01:04:57,977 The next guest It's the Wiggles, damn it! 964 01:04:58,060 --> 01:05:02,273 Balls! Make some fucking noise! 965 01:05:11,490 --> 01:05:15,453 Over time there have been many changes in the formation of the band. 966 01:05:16,537 --> 01:05:20,333 I thought, "We have a responsibility to be inclusive." 967 01:05:21,375 --> 01:05:22,960 So, nowadays, 968 01:05:23,044 --> 01:05:25,796 We have a very diverse group of artists. 969 01:05:26,213 --> 01:05:29,800 - Three, two, one, look at the bird! - Little bird! 970 01:05:29,884 --> 01:05:33,804 I love working with people who have the same passion 971 01:05:34,513 --> 01:05:37,058 and love for children and music for children. 972 01:05:41,604 --> 01:05:44,607 The last 33 years have been really incredible 973 01:05:44,774 --> 01:05:47,276 and I can't wait for the next 33. 974 01:05:54,742 --> 01:05:57,078 Hello, guys. How are you today? 975 01:05:58,287 --> 01:05:59,789 Let's go. 976 01:05:59,997 --> 01:06:04,043 This one is for everyone to dance. 977 01:06:04,126 --> 01:06:06,837 I feel good, I really feel good 978 01:06:07,088 --> 01:06:10,132 I feel like everything It's going well for me 979 01:06:10,466 --> 01:06:15,054 I feel alive, catch the wave I feel alive 980 01:06:15,137 --> 01:06:18,265 In any way Everyone feels good 981 01:06:18,391 --> 01:06:20,309 I feel so good, how about you? 982 01:06:20,851 --> 01:06:23,145 I feel, I'm feeling I'm feeling 983 01:06:24,438 --> 01:06:27,108 I feel that I feel like everything is going well for me 984 01:06:27,817 --> 01:06:30,486 I work in the music space for children independent 985 01:06:30,820 --> 01:06:33,614 and it is a very vast space. 986 01:06:34,198 --> 01:06:37,868 The genre is expanding and I think it became 987 01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:39,620 even very diverse now. 988 01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,708 The key is there. 989 01:06:44,166 --> 01:06:46,293 Because when we started to inspire other artists, 990 01:06:46,377 --> 01:06:49,296 diversity only increases more and more. 991 01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:51,298 Now there's hip-hop for kids. 992 01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:54,885 Sometimes when you play at school Someone thinks you're not cool 993 01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:56,095 There is jazz. 994 01:06:58,097 --> 01:06:59,932 Artists like Jazzy Ash. 995 01:07:03,310 --> 01:07:05,229 123 Andrés and Christina. 996 01:07:08,357 --> 01:07:09,442 I love them so much. 997 01:07:11,402 --> 01:07:14,238 The reality is that there is a great community 998 01:07:14,321 --> 01:07:16,741 of artists of color of music for children. 999 01:07:20,077 --> 01:07:21,495 This is exciting. 1000 01:07:21,871 --> 01:07:24,790 It's fun. It's, like, wow! 1001 01:07:25,499 --> 01:07:27,209 It inspires us to do more. 1002 01:07:28,335 --> 01:07:29,378 To be continued. 1003 01:07:29,503 --> 01:07:30,504 And now I think: 1004 01:07:30,588 --> 01:07:32,715 "What will the next album sound like?" 1005 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:34,592 You should call Bootsy Collins. 1006 01:07:34,717 --> 01:07:36,886 And say, "Did we record 'Wheels on the Bus'?" 1007 01:07:37,219 --> 01:07:38,387 It would be pretty cool. 1008 01:07:42,725 --> 01:07:43,768 Very good. 1009 01:07:51,317 --> 01:07:53,444 So, after "Baby Shark", 1010 01:07:53,819 --> 01:07:56,864 I stopped playing music for children for a while. 1011 01:07:57,907 --> 01:07:58,908 PEDAGOGICAL FARM 1012 01:07:58,991 --> 01:08:02,995 And two months ago, I received your email. 1013 01:08:05,915 --> 01:08:10,086 I asked if they needed me to act, since I was retiring. 1014 01:08:10,377 --> 01:08:13,255 And you said you would like for me to act. 1015 01:08:18,135 --> 01:08:20,930 So I called Farmer Jen of the pedagogical farm. 1016 01:08:21,639 --> 01:08:24,308 And said, "We have to go back getting the band back together." 1017 01:08:29,063 --> 01:08:34,193 Bubbles, bubbles I love these bubbles 1018 01:08:34,318 --> 01:08:38,823 Worries take me away I love these bubbles 1019 01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:41,617 And the other thing was, during that time, 1020 01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:44,411 I gave up being a one-hit wonder, 1021 01:08:44,495 --> 01:08:46,247 I gave up on having to be good. 1022 01:08:49,332 --> 01:08:53,671 Just wrote fun songs and with meaning for me 1023 01:08:53,754 --> 01:08:54,964 and for my audience. 1024 01:09:00,344 --> 01:09:02,888 It makes me feel so good to do this again. 1025 01:09:03,346 --> 01:09:05,349 It's part of me, you know? 1026 01:09:05,558 --> 01:09:11,229 Bubbles, bubbles Bubbles in the air... 1027 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,692 We can take a few months off in winter when the snow... 1028 01:09:14,774 --> 01:09:17,611 The barn gets really cold, But for now, it's hot 1029 01:09:17,694 --> 01:09:18,988 and we will continue. 1030 01:09:19,154 --> 01:09:25,536 Bubbles, bubbles Bring a new day 1031 01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:35,004 - Hi! - Come here. 1032 01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:37,006 Sit down. What is your name? 1033 01:09:37,506 --> 01:09:39,550 - Julia. - Julia. 1034 01:09:39,633 --> 01:09:41,926 - Hi, Julia. Juliet or Julia? - Julia. 1035 01:09:42,219 --> 01:09:43,761 - Welcome. - You're our favorite. 1036 01:09:44,138 --> 01:09:45,680 Thanks. 1037 01:09:45,764 --> 01:09:49,393 I remember feeling, when I started making music for children, 1038 01:09:49,935 --> 01:09:54,106 a bit like people think that, for some reason, 1039 01:09:54,189 --> 01:09:58,402 if our audience is children, the art or the product, 1040 01:09:58,485 --> 01:10:01,405 the music itself won't be as good. 1041 01:10:03,949 --> 01:10:07,953 I feel like I internalized this when I was younger 1042 01:10:08,037 --> 01:10:14,210 and that it took me many years to free myself and feeling really proud of what I do. 1043 01:10:14,293 --> 01:10:15,961 2. WALK 1044 01:10:16,128 --> 01:10:19,882 It felt like, "I can write a song so quickly. 1045 01:10:19,965 --> 01:10:21,050 It's really good." 1046 01:10:22,092 --> 01:10:25,221 The songs are catchy and easy right away. 1047 01:10:25,304 --> 01:10:26,305 GASOLINE PUMP 1048 01:10:26,388 --> 01:10:29,683 And the work was much harder when I tried to write for adults, 1049 01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:32,686 without being as fun. 1050 01:10:33,437 --> 01:10:35,814 I don't know, I'd rather spend my life to do something 1051 01:10:35,898 --> 01:10:38,150 that I find fun and that I enjoy. 1052 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,406 The first thing they teach us, as professional rock critics, 1053 01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:47,618 is that funny songs are not cool. 1054 01:10:49,870 --> 01:10:54,625 The silly songs they are incredibly tacky. 1055 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,379 We make everything too complicated, such as "what is", "why it is", 1056 01:10:58,504 --> 01:11:01,215 "as it is" and "as it should be". 1057 01:11:02,049 --> 01:11:04,343 A three year old child doesn't do any of that. 1058 01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:06,011 She just "is". 1059 01:11:06,762 --> 01:11:10,057 And there's something beautiful when we see a child 1060 01:11:10,140 --> 01:11:13,477 to have this experience, without any of the luggage 1061 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,437 associated intellectual and emotional. 1062 01:11:16,188 --> 01:11:18,732 They just need to like it and that's enough. 1063 01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:20,359 Nothing else is needed. 1064 01:11:22,987 --> 01:11:26,824 In the 90s, Madonna gave me some professional advice. 1065 01:11:27,491 --> 01:11:31,537 I remember her saying: "Because your music is funny, 1066 01:11:31,620 --> 01:11:36,083 your art and what you've never achieved will be valued by critics." 1067 01:11:36,875 --> 01:11:40,879 And it saved me a lot of frustration. Because, in reality, I never looked for it. 1068 01:11:41,463 --> 01:11:44,300 I never needed critical recognition, 1069 01:11:44,383 --> 01:11:49,138 even if they respected art what do I do to do this, 1070 01:11:49,221 --> 01:11:51,181 to share it and to love it. 1071 01:11:59,398 --> 01:12:01,358 I miss the children. 1072 01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:07,031 I miss having that energy around, of boys aged zero to five, 1073 01:12:07,114 --> 01:12:10,826 that are strange, surreal, as if they knew the parts of the world, 1074 01:12:10,909 --> 01:12:12,369 but didn't know how they fit together, 1075 01:12:12,453 --> 01:12:14,538 even though they try to make them fit and they can't. 1076 01:12:17,374 --> 01:12:21,128 I miss your explanations of how things work 1077 01:12:21,211 --> 01:12:22,379 and your questions. 1078 01:12:25,924 --> 01:12:32,056 All of this is raw material. It's what makes them people. 1079 01:12:32,139 --> 01:12:35,142 Alexa, play "Baby Shark". 1080 01:12:35,559 --> 01:12:37,186 Create their taste. 1081 01:12:38,228 --> 01:12:42,316 Tell them what's important for them and for us. 1082 01:13:05,381 --> 01:13:07,174 I don't know why, 1083 01:13:07,716 --> 01:13:11,512 but I feel like music has this mystery. 1084 01:13:14,056 --> 01:13:17,976 Why is music important? Why is it so important to me? 1085 01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:21,980 Why do you make me feel so many things? Why do you make me want to do so many things? 1086 01:13:22,064 --> 01:13:24,525 Why does it make people want to interact? 1087 01:13:25,651 --> 01:13:29,238 I think part of the reason is the vibrant nature of music, 1088 01:13:29,321 --> 01:13:33,242 the vibrations themselves, the energetic quality it has. 1089 01:13:35,577 --> 01:13:39,123 The fact that even newborns like music 1090 01:13:39,206 --> 01:13:43,794 and of, in the womb, loving music, This shows the value of music 1091 01:13:43,877 --> 01:13:46,797 as abstract language 1092 01:13:47,506 --> 01:13:50,509 which aims to encourage our nervous systems. 1093 01:13:50,592 --> 01:13:52,636 - And yes. - No, it's not. 1094 01:13:53,137 --> 01:13:57,015 Deep inside the compressed core from the atom of a song 1095 01:13:57,808 --> 01:14:01,645 there is this experience so old of the nervous system. 1096 01:14:02,688 --> 01:14:06,191 It probably goes back a while in which the idea of creating a rhythm, 1097 01:14:07,484 --> 01:14:11,989 Whatever it is, it's natural and comforting for the body. 1098 01:14:17,035 --> 01:14:19,830 Something we all have in common is that we were children, 1099 01:14:20,622 --> 01:14:26,503 and this song, somehow, breaks the barrier of being an adult, 1100 01:14:26,587 --> 01:14:31,175 the attitude of "I'm grown up, I take life seriously", 1101 01:14:31,258 --> 01:14:34,178 and reaches the child we have inside us, 1102 01:14:34,261 --> 01:14:36,305 who is still moved by these messages 1103 01:14:36,430 --> 01:14:39,892 and still believes in some magic, 1104 01:14:40,225 --> 01:14:42,478 because that's what music gives us, some magic, 1105 01:14:42,978 --> 01:14:44,188 that we all need. 1106 01:14:45,981 --> 01:14:48,775 Maybe, what did you mean? I feel grateful 1107 01:14:48,859 --> 01:14:51,320 that there is this magic around music 1108 01:14:51,403 --> 01:14:55,908 and reaching children and families, and to hear your answer, 1109 01:14:55,991 --> 01:14:59,369 how important it is to them. I feel so happy 1110 01:14:59,453 --> 01:15:01,288 for being able to live this every day. 1111 01:15:03,790 --> 01:15:08,629 It really makes me... I'm very happy to be able to do it. 1112 01:15:10,714 --> 01:15:12,758 Maybe he just wanted to say that. 1113 01:17:54,419 --> 01:17:56,421 Subtitles: Vânia Cristina