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Beauty, beauty, look at you.
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I wish to God I had it too.
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Beauty is about really being willing
to look at yourself in that mirror,
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past the point of comfort,
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and really seeing
what is it that I'm so afraid of?
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What is it I so don't like about myself?
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And then start to
think about your parents,
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and start to think about religion,
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and start to think about
all the voices that come,
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and that tell you you're not enough.
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Kevyn was the greatest makeup artist
that's ever lived.
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Best makeup artist around.
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Here he is. You heard it here first.
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He could do things that were
truly unbelievable.
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He was a true artist.
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There was nobody even close to
being a celebrity makeup artist.
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He was really the first and only
of that level, to this day.
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Kevin could do anything.
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Oh, I like that.
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Definitely, Kevyn was the go-to
celebrity makeup artist.
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I guess this award should really be going
to my makeup artist, Kevyn Aucoin.
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I want to thank Kevyn Aucoin.
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-Thank you to Kevyn Aucoin.
-Kevyn Aucoin.
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Kevyn Aucoin.
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He could look at any woman
and see the beauty that was there,
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whether she saw it or not,
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whether other people saw it or not.
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Kevyn saw it,
and he knew how to access it.
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He knew how to pull it out.
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- Oh, wow.
-I love you, Kevyn.
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I've never felt so beautiful.
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-What a day.
- Aww...
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He did have this ability
to make everybody else feel beautiful,
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but I don't know
if he ever saw his beauty.
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And that's sad
'cause there was a beauty to him.
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I'm so excited to meet you!
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He was adored
on so many levels,
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but there must have been
something inside of him
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where it never got through.
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It's almost like there was a shell there
that you couldn't get in through
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to let him know how much you loved him.
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I think he carried with him
the trauma of his childhood,
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which was really severe.
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He never quite figured out
how to get to the heart of his pain,
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and start to heal it.
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It's horrible to lose
somebody that you love so much.
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I knew that something
was wrong with his brain.
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And then I heard some whispers
about some kind of a drug issue,
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and I was like, "What?"
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I was really confused. I mean,
I had heard he wasn't feeling well,
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but I didn't...
I didn't really understand.
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It was... incomprehensible.
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It was just one of those, like, what?
It just made no sense.
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What happened? What happened?
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You're filming.
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- Where do you want me?
-Go over there.
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You can film this...
Does it look like film coming?
Yeah, it does.
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The thing
that really convinced me
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to sit down and talk to you was
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you said you had this video footage
that Kevyn himself had shot.
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Cindy, show me
from behind.
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Okay.
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And the second you said that,
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it reminded me, I could see Kevyn's...
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'cause he had big hands,
Holding like a little camera.
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And it reminded me, "Oh my gosh,
he was always filming."
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...and I said yeah, because I have it on.
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And it was at a time when no one
was shooting behind the scenes.
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So then I was like, "Okay, I wanna see
what those... what's in there?"
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And you can like,
hook it on, spray a little.
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You know, they weren't the moments
that people remember,
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'cause they weren't the Vogue covers.
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They were the moments in between
the Vogue covers, or the Cosmo cover.
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I've had this hairdo almost
as long as I've had these.
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It is like a time capsule.
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I hear you're a Louisiana boy.
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Marvelous, yeah.
Stay. They like that. That's great.
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I was overly excited
and nervous, 'cause I had been out...
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Can I show you what I've been out doing?
Wrestling alligators.
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Yeah, great! Look at me, that's wonderful.
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There.
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She's back in black.
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This is the outfit Andie wears
to pick up her children from school.
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I had wondered recently,
I wonder where Kevyn's videos are?
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There was some crazy one
of me in the bathroom,
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taking my makeup off, screaming.
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I was just being silly, because you know,
the black was coming down my face.
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It was just a crazy moment with Kevyn.
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Ah, they're gonna destroy us!
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And that's the way it was.
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-Aaaaah!
-It's killing me. Kevyn tickles me.
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Hey, darling.
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He was way ahead of his time.
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You know, just the way we do now
with selfies and Snapchat,
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and you know, Facebook.
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He would have put the little
Instagram kids to shame.
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...in the backdrop.
Get us on the backdrop. Go back.
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I think Kevyn could not believe that
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all of the women that
he had been dreaming about,
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who got him through
the pain of his childhood,
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were spending the day together on set...
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Say, "Don't worry,
everything's gonna be all right."
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Maybe you'll be a singer next.
Gonna do his own makeup.
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I'm gonna do my own makeup. On video.
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...and leaving messages
on his machine.
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-Hi Kevyn, it's Liza. As in Minnelli.
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Um, can you call me at home?
It's 249 99.
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Kevyn, it's Winona. I hope that
you come back soon and rescue me.
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It was almost like
he was taking evidence for himself.
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He was doing it to sort of
say to his eight-year-old self,
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like, it's gonna be okay.
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Look where we're going.
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You know, we're gonna be with
all of these idols of yours,
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and we're gonna be accepted and loved.
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We always wanted a family.
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That was no doubt...
When we got married, that was the idea.
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We were married to have
and raise a family.
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And then, uh, after a few years
and we went to doctors and everything,
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and it came to where
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we were told we probably
couldn't have our own family.
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We adopted Kevyn
through Catholic Charities.
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I mean, Thelma and I, I was all...
We were all excited.
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Listen, we were ready.
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That was our life.
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Eventually, we adopted four children.
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They were just a little over a year apart.
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I always told my children
they were adopted
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because I knew it would come up
at some point.
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First thing out, their mother could...
loved them, couldn't take care of them.
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It was such a hard thing
for her to give 'em up,
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but that I wanted to have a family,
and that was answer to my prayers.
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So I knew that I was adopted
and that... that had a mixed message.
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I was always told, "You were chosen."
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Um, but to be chosen,
I had to be not wanted.
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That was the hardest thing
I've ever had to do,
is to go off and leave him.
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But there was no other way.
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There was no way for me. No way.
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I was a 15-year-old idiot.
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Running around with a bunch of kids
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that I shouldn't have been
running around with.
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My mother didn't know
until I was six months pregnant
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because every month I would take a Kotex
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and get squirrels out of the refrigerator,
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and put blood on the Kotex, and put 'em
in the garbage can in the bathroom
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so she would think
that I was having my period.
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And she just come up behind me
one morning and put her arms around me,
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and just screamed.
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Oh, when she told my daddy. Oh, God.
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What happened?
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I figured
he was gonna beat me to death.
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He didn't have anything
to do with me after that,
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and he told mother I would have to leave
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because I couldn't live there anymore.
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So my mother found an unwed mother's home
in Shreveport, St. Anne's.
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And she said she was gonna send me there.
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Kevyn was born February the 14th, 1962.
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The nurse wasn't gonna let me see him.
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You know, I wasn't supposed to see him,
I was giving him up
and I wasn't supposed to see him.
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And I told her I was gonna see him
as long as I was there.
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And I started to go to open the door
to go in there,
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and she grabbed me by my arm.
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When she did,
I just knocked her up against the wall.
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And I went in there,
and I got my baby and sat down with him.
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And every day, I went up there,
and from then on she didn't say anything.
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I went in there and I got him,
and rocked him every day.
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Until I left from there.
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That like to kill me,
to leave that baby there.
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That like to have killed me.
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But there was nothing I could do about it.
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Not a thing.
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I first met Kevyn
when I was about 18 years old.
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I was young, new model,
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and I was just really privileged to be
on the shoot with him.
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I was adopted in the UK
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and a lot of people that I've come across
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who are adopted
feel like there's a piece missing,
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and they just don't feel quite... whole.
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Maybe Kevyn
shared these similarities as well.
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You always feel out there,
you never feel like you fit.
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Being adopted and being gay
on top of that was, um...
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it... it was very difficult.
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I think I knew I was different
from the very beginning,
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by the time I was six,
I realized I was gay.
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And I thought I was the only gay person
there was in the world.
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I didn't even know the word gay.
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So I felt very alone.
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I always tried to do things,
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like playing the baseball,
going fishing, going hunting.
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What it was,
I was giving him the opportunity.
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He could never look back and say he didn't
have the opportunity to do certain things.
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That had to make him understand that
I loved him and I was thinking about him.
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I mean, that to me would prove it.
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It's what you do that proves how you feel.
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You don't have to be hugging and kissing,
and all this kind of... no.
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See, my father never was like that
with me either.
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Growing up being gay
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in Louisiana in the '60s was
a really, really scary place to be.
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I mean, things for me
started in the first grade.
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I went through school
getting beat up every day.
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I didn't have any friends,
and I didn't have any support.
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And the only thing I really had was
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Cher and Barbara Streisand and...
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everything stereotypical gay kids have.
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Barbara Streisand
was his idol, he loved her.
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We had bought all of the albums
of everything she sang.
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He papered the walls with it.
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He was proud of the drawings that he did,
like those posters he made.
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I remember one time,
we were going to Lake Charles
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and he played that song
Barbara Streisand sang, The Way We Were
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all the way from here to Lake Charles,
he played it over and over and over.
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I thought I was gonna go nuts.
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I started doing makeup
on my little sisters
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when I was only 11
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because it gave me a sense of creativity.
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It made me feel that I had something
to offer the world.
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It made me feel that I had a way out.
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By the time I got to high school,
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my school life was
extremely volatile and crazy.
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Kevyn was an outsider.
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Terribly bullied by children,
especially when they realized he was gay.
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I'll be honest with you,
I really didn't suspect it.
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I knew he liked boys,
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and they'd come over here and
spend the night just like other children.
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But I never really suspected
anything like that, to be honest with you.
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Until he was about 13,
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and his mother told me about it.
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And then, I wasn't sure
how I felt at that instant.
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Because it was... It was so different,
and something that I'd never planned on.
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The people in Louisiana
didn't accept the gay community.
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Period.
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Thelma taught religion for 14 years
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and when they came to the point
where they said that
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she'd have to teach
that homosexuality was a sin,
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that's when we gave it up.
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And I'm gonna tell you right now,
not only did we give it up,
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we quit going to church.
The only time I go to church now even
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is for weddings and funerals.
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I never did change my religion,
my religion changed.
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Because there was no way
that anybody was gonna tell me
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that something was wrong with my son
because he was gay.
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Well, it was in the tenth grade
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that Kevyn decided
he wanted to quit school
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because of the way he was being treated.
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Evidently, there were death threats.
So that got my attention.
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They tried to run over him
with a pickup truck.
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I quit high school
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because two kids tried to kill me
in a pickup truck,
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and I decided that was it.
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Well, Kevyn decided to drop out of school,
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and I was worried about how he was gonna
make a living, I certainly was.
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These are all copies of magazine that,
uh, Kevyn has work in.
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And that's just part of 'em.
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He even asked his mother for tuition
for him to go to beauty school.
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I didn't think a boy could make a living
doing makeup.
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So I'm gonna give you the exact answer
that I told his mother.
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I said, "I might as well
take the damn money
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and go to the front of the house
in the sewer,
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and dump the nine hundred dollars."
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They turned the class over to Kevyn.
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He taught the class at cosmetology school,
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'cause Kevyn, he was an artist.
In other words, that's...
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A lady or a girl, to Kevyn, was like
some... an artist painting a picture.
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Kevyn and I met in
Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
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just out at the gay club one night.
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He was quite awkward, little bit goofy.
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Um, very outgoing, very gregarious.
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We connected immediately.
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I was enrolled at
Louisiana State University,
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and wanna say within a week,
he moved into the dorm room with me.
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He got a job in a cosmetic counter
in a department store.
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A lot of African American women
came into the store
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to have their makeup done.
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And all of the other girls at the counter
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would not work with them,
they'd send them to me.
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Which I was thrilled about
because these women had real need.
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The community I lived in did not
offer them much compassion.
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I didn't care if somebody said,
"Ooh, that lip color looks pretty on me."
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I cared if somebody said,
"I feel good now."
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You know, it's how they felt
that mattered.
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He does wanna get
one or two pictures.
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I got fired because
the customers complained
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that a boy was doing makeup.
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I mean, this was the '70s in Louisiana,
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and, uh, people were
not comfortable at all
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with people being different.
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Being gay in Louisiana at that time,
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I mean, you kept a low profile.
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It was scary
because in Louisiana,
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the police put you in the bayou
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in a brick of cement,
and no one finds you.
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And so, I...
I didn't want to be one of those people.
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See those buildings there?
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There was a gravitational pull
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for me to come to New York City.
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Both of us had the thought that, uh,
we needed to go to New York.
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It was kind of a shock, you know?
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Wow, look at
all those cabs in front of us.
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In 1982, yes, uh, New York was
a dangerous place to be.
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But somehow, for two gay boys,
it was safer than Louisiana.
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You know, we didn't have to be
so self-guarded.
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I grew my hair this way
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because I'm soft and cuddly
like a teddy bear.
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Sweet, sensuous, soft.
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Very often, after working all day,
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he would um, come home
and do makeup on friends.
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Sometimes, he even did it on me
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for us to go out and what not, yeah.
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I started doing tests for free,
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which means you do makeup,
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the model does it for free
for a portfolio.
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Kevyn wants you to pay for him privately.
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Wow,
looks-seems like a lot...
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Do something pretty
for the camera. Oh!
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I met him very young in his career.
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I was a little bit more established
when I met him.
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What are we doing today?
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Just, you know, the usual.
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Sluts.
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Painting sluts.
We're model maids, actually.
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We wait on models. We wait for them,
then we wait on them.
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Just this quiet and shy, and just,
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you know, very, very different.
Very different.
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I remember going...
This kid is like, forget it. I mean,
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unbelievable.
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Whenever he did the girl's face
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and they looked in the mirror,
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they just went, "Oh, shit!"
Like you know, that was it.
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I mean, he was-he was truly...
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there was no one like him.
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I mean, he could literally
paint a face on them.
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But he would also make them look like
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the person they thought
they looked like.
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You know what I mean?
You know, and you think,
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"Oh, this is how I think I look."
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Now look up here like that.
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You know, like, "Wow, this is me."
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That's good, Naomi,
what you're doing.
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He was then, I think, living in, um,
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the East Village with Jed.
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And he was really struggling.
He wasn't like, he wasn't known.
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Don't film my legs.
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I start... I mean,
we lived on tomato soup, lettuce,
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and you know,
Thousand Island dressing.
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We did become friends.
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For a start, Kevin was so
anti-drinking and... and drugs.
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Like he used to get so mad with me,
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'cause one time we did,
we throw like a thing at Divine.
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Woo-hoo! Hey, let go of my tits!
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Looks perfect, Kevyn.
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And he said, "I'm going upstairs,
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and you're not to do any coke, da-da-da,"
and I was like, "Okay, okay."
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Yes. It's genius, you're gonna die.
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Ah!
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And he said he came downstairs,
and it was a Tasmanian devil.
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00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:15,268
He said there was lipstick on my ears,
I was so like ahh, you know, like...
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Do the face.
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Oh, yes.
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Look at me.
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Fast.
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It was wicked, it was fantastic.
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I don't regret a minute of it.
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I mean, we just... We were-we were...
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I think I was high for like 15 years.
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-Seriously.
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00:23:43,296 --> 00:23:45,590
No, what? It's just it was compulsory.
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The first time I met Kevyn,
I was working some crap catalog,
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and there was this young,
very lanky, very tall boy.
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And he looked at me
with these beautiful eyes,
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00:24:02,399 --> 00:24:04,734
and the look on his face was like,
370
00:24:04,818 --> 00:24:07,487
it was like he just saw Jesus
walk into the room.
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00:24:07,571 --> 00:24:10,907
He said, "You're Paulina Porizkova."
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And I was like, yeah, well...
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It feels kind of good. "Yes, I am."
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00:24:18,206 --> 00:24:21,376
And he said, "I'm-I'm Kevyn,
and I'm gonna do your makeup today,
and I'm just so excited to meet you!
Oh, my God!
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Like, this is like
the greatest moment of my life!"
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00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:32,429
And that was the start of our friendship,
our relationship.
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00:24:32,929 --> 00:24:34,514
Do I look like Carol Alt?
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00:24:36,725 --> 00:24:38,810
Don't you wish you did, though?
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00:24:40,103 --> 00:24:43,064
Kevyn was very open
about his childhood with everybody.
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I think when you've grown up
feeling different,
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uh, feeling like there was
something wrong with you,
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00:24:51,823 --> 00:24:54,284
more than anything, you crave approval.
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00:24:54,367 --> 00:24:56,077
You're hungry to show people
that you're good,
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00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:59,039
and that there's a reason
for your existence.
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00:24:59,122 --> 00:25:00,624
And you always have something to prove.
386
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:15,138
I went up with a model
who was going to a go-see,
387
00:25:15,222 --> 00:25:16,848
a go-see at Vogue,
388
00:25:16,973 --> 00:25:18,850
for them to look at her portfolio,
and I brought mine.
389
00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,186
Oh, wow, that's beautiful.
I like that.
390
00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:22,479
And they looked at her portfolio,
391
00:25:22,562 --> 00:25:24,231
and they kept saying,
"Who did the makeup here?"
392
00:25:24,314 --> 00:25:25,857
and she kept saying, "He did."
393
00:25:26,441 --> 00:25:27,692
And they said,
"Can we see your portfolio?"
394
00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:29,736
And she looked at it,
she said she liked it.
395
00:25:32,322 --> 00:25:39,329
Yes, I was the person who gave Kevyn
his first big break, probably first break.
396
00:25:40,038 --> 00:25:42,040
I liked what I saw,
397
00:25:42,123 --> 00:25:47,754
and very shortly thereafter,
Steven Meisel and I were working together.
398
00:25:47,837 --> 00:25:50,966
And I said why don't we get
Kevyn Aucoin in?
399
00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:52,509
Thank God for Steven Meisel.
400
00:25:52,592 --> 00:25:54,636
I mean, Steven Meisel saved my life.
401
00:25:54,719 --> 00:25:57,681
He gave me the job. He trusted an unknown,
402
00:25:57,806 --> 00:25:58,848
and he brought me in.
403
00:25:58,932 --> 00:26:00,100
Relax.
404
00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:02,519
That'd be good.
405
00:26:02,852 --> 00:26:04,396
Then I started working with Irving Penn,
406
00:26:04,479 --> 00:26:08,316
Annie Liebovitz, uh,
Herb Ritts, uh, Helmut Newton.
407
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,609
Wait a minute,
I want to see your face.
408
00:26:09,693 --> 00:26:11,528
Well you know, Helmut,
where you want to get it
409
00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:14,197
is when I flip him over,
maybe you should be on the side.
410
00:26:19,035 --> 00:26:20,078
It's fabulous.
411
00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:25,375
This way, please.
412
00:26:28,086 --> 00:26:30,380
Oh, I like that.
I love the hair like that.
She's trying to knock me out,
she don't want no competition.
413
00:26:36,469 --> 00:26:40,015
-Oh, you got that?
- Yes, I've been getting it.
414
00:26:40,974 --> 00:26:43,518
Not so scared,
more like hip and chic and all,
415
00:26:43,601 --> 00:26:45,020
like on the hips.
416
00:26:45,937 --> 00:26:49,024
Average! Average!
417
00:26:50,275 --> 00:26:54,404
I'm Linda Evangelista,
and get that through your head!
418
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,828
This is me fixing Grace.
419
00:27:11,004 --> 00:27:14,132
- Andie?
-So what were you saying, Kevyn?
420
00:27:14,215 --> 00:27:16,718
He was on that real great high
421
00:27:16,801 --> 00:27:21,723
of fulfilling something that he,
you know, was a life-long dream.
422
00:27:21,806 --> 00:27:25,226
And just, you know, his exuberant
423
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,896
and the way he went about his day,
424
00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:29,439
light-hearted energy.
425
00:27:29,522 --> 00:27:30,774
Look at you.
426
00:27:30,857 --> 00:27:33,193
I'm an angel in disguise.
427
00:27:33,276 --> 00:27:35,695
A very clever disguise,
428
00:27:35,779 --> 00:27:38,740
a very deceiving disguise,
but a disguise no less.
429
00:27:38,823 --> 00:27:39,741
Okay.
430
00:27:39,866 --> 00:27:42,744
I think we clicked because of
our sense of humor,
431
00:27:42,827 --> 00:27:45,747
and just, you know, the desire to laugh
and have a good time,
432
00:27:45,872 --> 00:27:47,916
but also our southern sense of humor,
433
00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:50,251
which I think is
a very distinct sense of humor.
434
00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:52,253
What was the name of that preacher?
Jimmy Swaggart.
435
00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:54,839
Jimmy Swaggart is my father.
436
00:27:56,091 --> 00:27:58,676
And you went to that school, didn't you?
Looking for him.
437
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,053
And I went to his school.
438
00:28:00,178 --> 00:28:01,638
You're his ill-illegitimate child.
439
00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:03,932
I'm his ill-illegitimate child.
440
00:28:04,015 --> 00:28:05,308
Illegitimate child.
And you went to that school,
441
00:28:05,392 --> 00:28:08,186
and did you learn how to do that dance
he does on stage?
442
00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:10,397
I haven't seen that one.
443
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,023
You know...
444
00:28:12,941 --> 00:28:14,401
-this one.
-Sorry.
445
00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:16,945
And I tell you it's gonna happen!
446
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:19,739
And I tell you it's gonna happen!
447
00:28:20,198 --> 00:28:21,616
Repent!
448
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:27,205
So, get ready...
449
00:28:29,082 --> 00:28:30,500
I did my first Vogue cover
450
00:28:30,625 --> 00:28:33,002
in 1986.
451
00:28:33,128 --> 00:28:35,255
And of course,
Cindy Crawford's first Vogue cover.
452
00:28:35,338 --> 00:28:37,549
...so pretty?
I mean, I'm sure it's not average.
453
00:28:37,632 --> 00:28:38,758
Yeah, but you know what?
454
00:28:38,842 --> 00:28:39,718
What?
455
00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:41,094
Look in the mirror.
Stay right there.
456
00:28:44,764 --> 00:28:48,560
We were both young,
fresh off the boat, you know,
457
00:28:48,685 --> 00:28:51,062
and I think it was Kevyn's first time
458
00:28:51,187 --> 00:28:52,522
working with Richard Avedon,
459
00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:55,608
for sure, it was Kevyn's first time
working with Polly Mellen.
460
00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:01,156
And I just remember being
in the dressing room
461
00:29:01,239 --> 00:29:04,701
and I remember Polly Mellen,
who was larger than life, saying,
462
00:29:04,784 --> 00:29:06,661
"How long, uh, do you need for makeup?"
463
00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:10,248
And Kevyn saying,
"Well, how long do I have?"
464
00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:15,837
And Polly Mellen said,
"No, darling. Like how long will it take
465
00:29:15,962 --> 00:29:18,673
for Kevyn Aucoin makeup?"
466
00:29:18,798 --> 00:29:20,842
Like she wanted Kevyn, in all his glory.
467
00:29:20,925 --> 00:29:22,343
Like she had seen his makeup,
468
00:29:22,427 --> 00:29:26,765
she wanted him to have the time
to do his thing.
469
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:29,934
And I remember he and I kind of looking
at each other like almost giggling,
470
00:29:30,018 --> 00:29:33,605
like is she serious? Is this for real?
And what is the right answer?
471
00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:36,065
Absolutely fabulous!
472
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:38,026
-Kevyn?
- Yes?
473
00:29:41,196 --> 00:29:44,199
The eyes are fantastic!
474
00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:47,827
That ended up being, I think,
both of our first Vogue covers.
475
00:29:50,288 --> 00:29:53,082
Our careers were both starting to take off
476
00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:55,001
with the best jobs,
the best photographers,
477
00:29:55,084 --> 00:29:56,878
the best magazines, at the same time.
478
00:29:58,338 --> 00:29:59,756
It was a dream come true.
479
00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:02,300
At one point,
I had nine Vogue covers in a row.
480
00:30:02,383 --> 00:30:05,178
And at the same time,
I had seven Cosmo covers in a row,
481
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,305
and I had five Mademoiselle covers
in a row.
482
00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:08,932
I just had all the covers
of all the magazines.
483
00:30:11,893 --> 00:30:14,437
There were weeks where I would work
with Kevyn three days a week.
484
00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:17,649
Um, and just when you spend
that much time together,
485
00:30:17,732 --> 00:30:21,736
it's like camp. And you develop
these really deep friendships.
486
00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:24,531
- Are you thirsty?
-No, no, no, thanks.
487
00:30:24,614 --> 00:30:26,324
I'll just drink out the toilet
if I want a drink,
488
00:30:26,407 --> 00:30:28,034
just stick my head in the bowl.
489
00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:30,703
Can have a snack while I'm there.
490
00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:33,248
Provided no one flushed.
491
00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:35,583
There's a crack in everyone's armor
at one point in the day.
492
00:30:35,708 --> 00:30:37,710
Where's my cappuccino?
I can't work like this.
493
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:40,171
Look out, Crawford's gonna turn.
You know, she's very--
494
00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:41,464
Yeah, she's getting evil.
495
00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:43,299
-She gets evil.
- I love when she turns.
496
00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:44,592
When did I get evil?
497
00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:47,303
It's always most fun
in the makeup room. Always.
498
00:30:47,387 --> 00:30:49,848
Here it comes, I'll tell you the joke.
You don't have to tape this.
499
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:52,684
But this girl, um,
she wants to get her boobs done.
So she goes to the doctor and, um,
he said,
500
00:30:55,562 --> 00:30:57,522
"Well here's a book of all the tit jobs
that I've done,
501
00:30:57,647 --> 00:30:59,649
and you can look through it,
pick the kind you like."
502
00:30:59,732 --> 00:31:01,943
So she's looking through,
and she finds this great pair.
503
00:31:02,068 --> 00:31:05,029
She goes, "I like these." And he goes,
"Okay, that's five thousand dollars."
504
00:31:05,154 --> 00:31:06,948
She said, "Five thousand dollars?
I can't afford that."
505
00:31:07,073 --> 00:31:09,784
He says, "Well, how much can you afford?"
She said, "Five hundred."
506
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:11,578
And he goes,
"Oh, my. Five hundred dollars?"
507
00:31:11,703 --> 00:31:14,497
He's like, "Okay, well there's one pair
at the back of the book."
508
00:31:14,581 --> 00:31:16,249
So she goes to the back,
509
00:31:16,332 --> 00:31:18,543
she's a little afraid,
thinking they're gonna be horrible.
510
00:31:18,626 --> 00:31:20,962
And they're exactly the same as
the five thousand dollar pair.
511
00:31:21,045 --> 00:31:22,839
And she said, "They look great.
I don't understand."
512
00:31:22,922 --> 00:31:26,009
He said, "There's one small problem.
You have to pump them up."
513
00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:30,388
"But if you don't mind doing that,
you can save forty-five hundred dollars."
514
00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:33,182
She goes, "I don't mind doing that.
That's a good saving."
515
00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:37,228
So he gives her the surgery.
So the first night, she's ready to go out.
516
00:31:37,312 --> 00:31:39,063
She goes to a bar,
she's getting ready to meet guys,
517
00:31:39,147 --> 00:31:40,398
she has a sexy dress on.
518
00:31:40,481 --> 00:31:44,360
So she's going, getting, pumping up
to get 'em really full to meet guys.
519
00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:47,405
And this guy's looking at her,
but she doesn't think she knows him.
520
00:31:47,488 --> 00:31:49,198
She's like, "Excuse me, do I know you?"
521
00:31:49,282 --> 00:31:52,243
And he goes, "I don't think so,
but I think we have the same doctor."
522
00:31:55,747 --> 00:31:59,709
You come into the hair and makeup room
in the morning
523
00:31:59,792 --> 00:32:01,294
as just a girl, or just a woman,
524
00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:04,923
and it's like then
those hair and makeup people are...
525
00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:07,342
They're the fairy dust
that gets sprinkled on you,
526
00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:10,345
that enables you to kind of
get in front of the camera
527
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,388
and turn it on, and do your thing.
528
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:14,682
She looks sensational.
529
00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:20,063
And Kevyn definitely,
um, liked to sprinkle the fairy dust.
530
00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:27,236
The way Kevyn approached makeup
531
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,949
is more like an artist
who wanted a blank canvas.
532
00:32:31,032 --> 00:32:35,703
He would literally erase your face.
At one point, you would have no face,
533
00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:38,915
no shadow, no contour, nothing.
534
00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:45,421
It was like he had this hyper,
beautiful version of you,
535
00:32:45,546 --> 00:32:49,050
and so in order to achieve it,
it was like erase,
536
00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:51,260
and I'm gonna...
It was like you were bionic, right?
537
00:32:51,344 --> 00:32:52,720
I'm gonna tear you down,
538
00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:55,932
but I'm gonna build you stronger,
faster, more beautiful.
539
00:33:14,617 --> 00:33:16,285
It was much more
glamorous and fun back then.
540
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:20,456
It was the birth of the ubers,
like Stephy, and Naomi,
541
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:24,252
and that whole batch.
Linda, and Christy.
542
00:33:24,377 --> 00:33:27,338
Because they really changed the game.
It was a great time.
543
00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:28,881
The rates went through the roof,
544
00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:30,258
and Linda made that statement
545
00:33:30,341 --> 00:33:32,218
like she doesn't get out of bed
for ten thousand dollars a day.
546
00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:36,431
I talked about money once,
I will never talk about it again.
547
00:33:36,556 --> 00:33:39,517
Although, it must have been
a brilliant quote, 'cause I...
548
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,603
they put it on a cover of
a magazine in England.
549
00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:44,981
I don't wake up for less than
ten thousand dollars.
550
00:33:45,106 --> 00:33:46,357
I know, I love that. I love that.
551
00:33:46,441 --> 00:33:48,401
And it's a picture of Paulina
in like a bathrobe.
552
00:33:50,111 --> 00:33:52,530
They're printing this quote
all over the world.
553
00:33:52,655 --> 00:33:55,450
It's famous. It'll be around
for the next 50 years.
554
00:33:55,575 --> 00:34:00,163
In the beginning of
the whole supermodel era thing,
555
00:34:00,246 --> 00:34:04,584
there was this group. Me,
Christy Turlington, Linda Evangelista,
556
00:34:04,667 --> 00:34:07,962
Naomi Campbell, Tatiana,
Stephanie Seymour.
557
00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:10,965
There was, you know,
some people put in different names.
558
00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:13,009
There's not... We don't have like
membership cards or anything,
559
00:34:13,092 --> 00:34:14,761
but there was a group of women.
560
00:34:14,844 --> 00:34:17,680
And Kevyn was working with everyone.
561
00:34:18,973 --> 00:34:22,060
Christy was the classic beauty, for sure.
562
00:34:24,812 --> 00:34:27,065
- Are you gonna do movies?
-No.
563
00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:29,442
Why? What a waste.
564
00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:33,529
And Linda, I think, was the chameleon.
565
00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:36,741
You know, she could do blonde hair,
she could do red hair,
566
00:34:36,824 --> 00:34:38,409
she could do long hair,
she could do short hair.
567
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:41,662
She just looked... She was able to kind of
really transform herself.
568
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:45,166
-Oh yeah, get the before. Oh, lovely.
- Or like blown out.
569
00:34:45,249 --> 00:34:47,877
This is Linda with the red, red hair.
570
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,212
Gorgeous.
571
00:34:49,295 --> 00:34:50,713
So listen, um, know what I mean?
572
00:34:50,797 --> 00:34:51,881
Solid.
573
00:34:51,964 --> 00:34:56,385
Linda probably
was most in her element on a shoot.
574
00:34:56,469 --> 00:35:00,056
You know, kind of being the-the grandam,
575
00:35:00,139 --> 00:35:03,351
like entertaining everybody.
And she did have a wicked sense of humor
576
00:35:03,434 --> 00:35:06,854
and um, funny and good timing.
577
00:35:06,938 --> 00:35:09,607
She has a beautiful chin.
578
00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:11,067
And she's trained.
579
00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:14,278
So you'd better start
writing that check right now.
580
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:19,575
Linda?
581
00:35:19,659 --> 00:35:22,745
It's two hundred and fifty dollars!
Are they insane!?
582
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,623
We want
a lot of energy, Paul.
583
00:35:39,345 --> 00:35:41,889
Point, point. Point, Paul!
584
00:35:48,729 --> 00:35:50,064
And point the walk!
585
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:52,441
Where is he? Where is he?
586
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:57,905
Naomi could move,
she'd been a dancer.
587
00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:02,118
Um, she was like a little bit,
had like, a little bit of a spoiled,
588
00:36:02,201 --> 00:36:06,038
naughty personality
that came through in the pictures.
589
00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:07,290
Like a sweet brat, sort of.
590
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:09,417
Don't, Kevyn!
591
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,753
I'll never, ever live this down.
592
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:14,922
And she was
a little bit younger than all of us.
593
00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,966
Don't tell Linda I said that.
No, just kidding.
594
00:36:17,049 --> 00:36:20,094
I think kind of I was typecast
595
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:25,099
as like, kind of the all-American
sexy girl next door.
596
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,354
It was really the glory day of beauty.
597
00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:34,442
Those were the days of the greats.
The great models,
598
00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:37,653
the great photographers,
the great makeup artists.
599
00:36:39,739 --> 00:36:41,657
Kevyn was extraordinary.
600
00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:46,120
He had a particular eye for detail.
601
00:36:46,245 --> 00:36:48,831
He could make the most seasoned model
602
00:36:48,915 --> 00:36:51,584
feel like she could
even be more beautiful.
603
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,923
What paper is that you're reading,
Cindy Crawford?
604
00:36:57,590 --> 00:36:58,966
The New York Post.
605
00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:02,303
I worked with Kevin a lot
in the late '80s and early '90s.
606
00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:04,764
But there was that moment for me
where I was like,
607
00:37:04,847 --> 00:37:08,976
all these different worlds
are coming together. Fashion, music,
608
00:37:09,101 --> 00:37:11,312
entertainment, pop culture,
609
00:37:11,437 --> 00:37:13,981
and it was like the supermodel phenomenon.
610
00:37:22,531 --> 00:37:25,076
We had changed glamour,
611
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:27,870
and it wasn't just about
the actresses now,
612
00:37:27,995 --> 00:37:28,996
it was about the models, too.
613
00:37:31,999 --> 00:37:33,793
Kevyn was def in the middle
of all of that.
614
00:37:33,876 --> 00:37:39,298
And in terms of diversity, I think
I was fighting to get accepted.
615
00:37:39,382 --> 00:37:41,467
And Kevyn was very instrumental.
616
00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:44,220
I say that because when people
make black skin up,
617
00:37:44,303 --> 00:37:46,472
they think you just put one foundation
all over the skin,
618
00:37:46,555 --> 00:37:49,141
it's not the way. He just knew that.
619
00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:50,810
But I'm just doing your face now.
620
00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:53,104
He did black skin so well.
621
00:37:53,187 --> 00:37:54,939
Love the make-up.
Thank you.
622
00:37:55,022 --> 00:37:57,275
He just was obsessed
with what he did.
623
00:37:57,358 --> 00:37:59,819
He loved what he did. Passionately.
624
00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:08,911
As he became more successful,
625
00:38:09,036 --> 00:38:12,164
it started to become stressful
'cause Kevyn was extremely controlling.
626
00:38:12,248 --> 00:38:14,333
You know, you had to be
on the Kevyn train.
627
00:38:14,417 --> 00:38:16,836
You need to support Kevyn.
628
00:38:18,629 --> 00:38:22,883
But not doing it was only minimally
more difficult than actually doing it.
629
00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:28,139
So what I did, you know,
I was the housewife in a way,
630
00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:31,684
househusband for a couple of years.
631
00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:40,609
Then it became a stressful...
632
00:38:40,693 --> 00:38:44,697
More of a stressful situation with me
not having other things in my life.
633
00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:50,161
Because Kevyn was a very jealous person,
a very suspicious person.
634
00:38:51,203 --> 00:38:53,039
Are you rolling your eyes at me?
635
00:38:53,956 --> 00:38:55,041
Yep.
636
00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,209
I would get shit.
637
00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:59,420
Uh, I mean, we were in a taxi or whatever,
638
00:38:59,503 --> 00:39:03,841
I would get shit if he noticed
that I was looking at a cute guy,
639
00:39:03,924 --> 00:39:05,926
um, as we're driving down the street.
640
00:39:07,636 --> 00:39:10,139
And he would even say like,
"Even though you're wearing sunglasses,
641
00:39:10,264 --> 00:39:13,392
I can tell where your eyes are."
642
00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:17,855
It was a very odd dichotomy about,
you know,
643
00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:19,607
being the center of the universe,
644
00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:22,360
but also having
ridiculously low self-esteem.
645
00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:23,778
And overcompensating for that.
646
00:39:24,445 --> 00:39:27,073
Kevyn was extremely insecure
about his own looks.
647
00:39:27,156 --> 00:39:29,450
He hated his nose, he hated his forehead,
648
00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:32,119
he hated the fact that
he was starting to lose his hair.
649
00:39:32,244 --> 00:39:34,205
Um, he thought his hands were too big.
650
00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:37,958
Um, he thought he was too tall,
he thought his lips were too thick.
651
00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:38,918
He needed the attention,
652
00:39:39,001 --> 00:39:42,588
he needed to hear that
he was loved all the time.
653
00:39:42,671 --> 00:39:46,175
Um, to really excessive extent.
654
00:39:46,258 --> 00:39:48,511
- Tell me something.
-What?
655
00:39:48,636 --> 00:39:51,347
Tell me something sweet. Please?
656
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:52,390
I don't have anything...
657
00:39:52,473 --> 00:39:55,851
I don't have anything recorded on film
of you being sweet.
658
00:39:55,935 --> 00:39:57,311
-No?
- No.
659
00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:59,522
Jed will now be sweet on camera.
660
00:39:59,605 --> 00:40:01,065
I love you, Poochy.
661
00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:04,735
I love you too, Jed.
662
00:40:04,819 --> 00:40:08,614
I'd say he's had abandonment issues,
for sure.
663
00:40:08,697 --> 00:40:10,908
He talked a lot about being adopted. Yeah.
664
00:40:11,033 --> 00:40:13,953
I think that probably
had something to do with it.
665
00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:15,204
I know he really wanted
to find his birth mother
666
00:40:15,287 --> 00:40:19,959
because he felt this loss inside of, um,
not understanding where he came from,
667
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:21,752
and wanted to see
if that person would love him.
668
00:40:21,836 --> 00:40:24,380
I know that that was
a huge part of who he was.
669
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:27,466
What he said to me was,
670
00:40:27,591 --> 00:40:31,262
"I want to find her
because I want to know who I am.
671
00:40:31,387 --> 00:40:33,431
I just wanna know where I came from."
672
00:40:33,556 --> 00:40:37,768
And that's, you know,
that's such a basic want.
673
00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:40,187
It didn't seem like his life
was riding on finding her,
674
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:42,106
but then once he found her, it was like,
675
00:40:42,189 --> 00:40:47,027
"Ooh, this is completely going to
somehow change my life.
676
00:40:47,111 --> 00:40:50,322
Finally, it will all be explained to me."
677
00:40:59,331 --> 00:41:03,711
The dining room in there used to be,
uh, just a little den.
678
00:41:03,794 --> 00:41:06,839
I had a TV in there, and a couch,
and a love seat.
679
00:41:06,922 --> 00:41:10,759
And I was sitting in there watching TV
and the phone rang.
680
00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:15,389
So I picked the phone up,
and it was Kevyn.
681
00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:19,560
He said, "Is this Nelda?"
I said, "Yes, it is."
682
00:41:20,394 --> 00:41:22,855
He said, "Do you know who this is?"
683
00:41:24,106 --> 00:41:27,151
I said, "Yes, I think I do. I think I do."
684
00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:31,697
When I heard his voice,
it was just a relief.
685
00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:37,161
All these years that
I have cried and worried
686
00:41:37,244 --> 00:41:40,706
and thought about him every night
when I went to bed,
687
00:41:40,789 --> 00:41:44,835
and just to hear, you know,
that he was okay.
688
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,464
And... it was just a relief.
689
00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:51,217
Like... Like ten tons weight
off my shoulders.
690
00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:40,599
I don't see her.
691
00:42:41,725 --> 00:42:44,270
I always loved Kevyn
because I mean,
692
00:42:44,353 --> 00:42:46,480
I didn't know
what he looked like or anything,
693
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:49,233
but I still, I loved him.
He was my child, my blood.
694
00:42:51,193 --> 00:42:53,654
You love your child, no matter what.
695
00:42:55,739 --> 00:42:57,408
I know she's here.
696
00:42:59,326 --> 00:43:01,328
He was really nervous to meet me.
697
00:43:02,788 --> 00:43:04,039
There they are.
698
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,085
But when I seen him, I hugged him
699
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:11,880
and when we got together it was just,
it all melted.
700
00:43:40,492 --> 00:43:42,119
That was the happiest I've ever been.
701
00:43:47,583 --> 00:43:49,418
I think it's very important
for some children
702
00:43:49,501 --> 00:43:52,838
who've been adopted
to find their birth parents
703
00:43:52,921 --> 00:43:55,799
because you want to know who you are.
You want to know who you are.
You want to know,
have a sense of identity.
704
00:43:58,844 --> 00:44:01,263
Where am I from, why did you give me away?
You want answers.
705
00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:06,393
And in a lot of cases, people think that
these answers will make them feel better.
706
00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:11,023
They think they're gonna heal.
And to some degree, they are beneficial.
707
00:44:11,106 --> 00:44:15,319
But I think really,
it's a lot deeper than that.
708
00:44:15,402 --> 00:44:18,781
It's a lot deeper than just
finding the pieces
709
00:44:18,906 --> 00:44:21,533
to this jigsaw puzzle
that you've put in your head.
710
00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:24,161
'Cause you think once I found that,
once I know who I am,
711
00:44:24,244 --> 00:44:25,871
once I know the reasons why,
I'll be whole.
712
00:44:25,954 --> 00:44:28,916
And all of this stuff
that's going on inside me,
713
00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:32,127
all these issues and all this rejection
that keeps happening,
714
00:44:32,252 --> 00:44:36,048
and all... all my neuroses
over abandonment will disappear.
715
00:44:36,173 --> 00:44:37,883
But it's never the case.
716
00:44:45,265 --> 00:44:48,936
I don't know why it was important
for Kevyn to see St. Anne's.
717
00:44:49,019 --> 00:44:50,854
But we found it.
718
00:44:50,938 --> 00:44:52,439
And we went.
719
00:44:54,691 --> 00:44:56,443
Oh, my God.
720
00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:59,571
So that's where I... Was that...
I was born at the hospital, though?
721
00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,365
You were born at the hospital.
722
00:45:01,448 --> 00:45:03,033
-And brought back here.
- Brought back here.
723
00:45:03,117 --> 00:45:05,661
And kept... not that window,
724
00:45:05,744 --> 00:45:08,997
next to the middle big window,
but the one to the right.
725
00:45:10,499 --> 00:45:11,667
Wow.
726
00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:17,005
There's lots of psychology about
healing the primal wound
727
00:45:17,089 --> 00:45:21,301
where, you know, when you're born
and then suddenly you're ripped away from
728
00:45:21,427 --> 00:45:24,638
the person who you've been with actually
for nine months,
729
00:45:24,763 --> 00:45:27,850
and the trauma and stress
that causes,
730
00:45:27,933 --> 00:45:30,394
and the anxiety that builds from that.
731
00:45:30,477 --> 00:45:33,856
And it stays with them
throughout their lifetime.
732
00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:35,649
I always came through there.
733
00:45:35,732 --> 00:45:37,443
And that's where
y'all played checkers?
734
00:45:37,526 --> 00:45:38,652
We played cards and all that.
735
00:45:38,735 --> 00:45:42,364
It pained him. It hurt him very much
because I gave him up.
736
00:45:42,448 --> 00:45:46,493
But what I told him, he did not understand
was I was 15 years old.
737
00:45:47,369 --> 00:45:52,583
I was told that I could not keep him.
I couldn't come home if I kept him.
738
00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:56,545
And what was I gonna do,
go around on the street corner
739
00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:59,756
and beg for milk
and not have a place to stay?
740
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,592
How was I gonna tend to a baby?
741
00:46:10,184 --> 00:46:15,564
I think that Kevyn was always
looking for love, primarily.
742
00:46:15,647 --> 00:46:18,859
He was, um,
and that's what we had in common.
743
00:46:18,942 --> 00:46:21,945
We both wanted desperately to be loved,
744
00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:23,405
and to be approved of.
745
00:46:23,530 --> 00:46:28,202
I think that was definitely in the search
of his friendships with the celebrities.
746
00:46:28,327 --> 00:46:29,244
Roll, play nine.
747
00:46:29,328 --> 00:46:32,748
I was incredibly fortunate
that Kevyn came to me
748
00:46:32,873 --> 00:46:37,252
when his career was
about to go to a whole other level.
749
00:46:42,382 --> 00:46:45,636
This was a kid from Lafayette, Louisiana.
750
00:46:46,345 --> 00:46:49,806
And all of a sudden, he comes to New York
751
00:46:49,890 --> 00:46:53,143
and meets, and is hanging out,
752
00:46:53,227 --> 00:46:57,689
and is friends with people
that he idolized
753
00:46:58,398 --> 00:46:59,775
since he was a child.
754
00:46:59,858 --> 00:47:01,193
I met Tina when I was 21.
755
00:47:01,944 --> 00:47:04,112
With what? The first celebrity
I've ever worked with.
756
00:47:04,196 --> 00:47:06,532
First cover with me in the shirt,
Rolling Stone, jumping up.
757
00:47:06,615 --> 00:47:07,533
Jumping up, and...
758
00:47:08,075 --> 00:47:09,785
He started working
quite a bit with celebrities.
759
00:47:09,868 --> 00:47:12,204
First one, that was probably
the Tina Turner,
760
00:47:12,287 --> 00:47:14,331
that famous Rolling Stone cover.
761
00:47:14,414 --> 00:47:16,750
♪ I been runnin' ♪
762
00:47:16,833 --> 00:47:18,085
Sing it, Kev.
763
00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:21,463
♪ I been runnin' since my youth ♪
764
00:47:21,547 --> 00:47:26,260
He would get so excited,
you know, hyperventilating excited,
765
00:47:26,343 --> 00:47:29,179
when he was gonna work with, you know,
one of those... and Cher.
766
00:47:29,263 --> 00:47:33,100
Oh, how you had the patience
to do these eyes is beyond me.
767
00:47:34,142 --> 00:47:36,019
Obviously, I can't speak for Cher,
768
00:47:36,103 --> 00:47:39,273
but I think Kevyn made her feel safe,
that she could trust him.
769
00:47:39,356 --> 00:47:42,859
You know, and then
they became friends for some time.
770
00:47:42,943 --> 00:47:45,862
This is like all those ladies
in Miami in the '60s.
771
00:47:45,988 --> 00:47:49,491
Yeah. Can you turn your head
just a teeny bit towards me, Cher?
772
00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:54,371
On the shoot, just meeting someone
and being their best friend immediately,
773
00:47:54,454 --> 00:47:57,541
and being that sort of very open, uh,
774
00:47:57,624 --> 00:48:00,168
and creating that connection immediately
775
00:48:00,252 --> 00:48:03,463
made him successful,
especially with the celebrities.
776
00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:07,092
Kevyn, it's Liza.
777
00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:08,635
Hi.
Yes!
778
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,886
I know, I love it!
779
00:48:10,012 --> 00:48:12,848
How are ya?
780
00:48:12,973 --> 00:48:15,475
Well, I'm hysterical laughing.
Why?
781
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,561
Well, you should see
how I've put on my makeup.
782
00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:22,107
I've tried to do such a good job,
and I look like such a harlotta.
783
00:48:23,233 --> 00:48:26,403
Kevyn and Liza became
very close, very quickly.
784
00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:29,489
We were spending
quite a bit of time at her apartment.
785
00:48:29,573 --> 00:48:34,453
She was a very open, warm person,
and we all connected very, very quickly.
786
00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:36,496
She was making a big comeback, as well.
787
00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:40,250
It was her, uh... Carnegie Hall.
788
00:48:40,334 --> 00:48:45,505
Kevyn, it's Liza. We have a hit record.
789
00:48:45,631 --> 00:48:49,343
It came in at number 24
on the charts in London,
790
00:48:49,468 --> 00:48:53,263
and this week it goes up into the top ten
and I am in such shock,
791
00:48:53,347 --> 00:48:56,516
I cannot tell you.
I will call you the second I get home,
792
00:48:56,642 --> 00:48:58,310
and maybe I'll try you again tomorrow
793
00:48:58,393 --> 00:48:59,978
and tell you everything that's happened.
794
00:49:00,062 --> 00:49:02,522
And thank God you taught me
how to do that makeup a little bit,
795
00:49:02,648 --> 00:49:05,359
I've been living in it. I love you honey,
796
00:49:05,484 --> 00:49:09,112
and all of this is really...
has so much to do with you.
797
00:49:09,196 --> 00:49:11,990
I just love you, and I miss you.
798
00:49:12,074 --> 00:49:13,659
Okay, I'll talk to you later. Bye.
799
00:49:14,743 --> 00:49:19,790
If celebrities like you,
then how can you not be likeable?
800
00:49:19,873 --> 00:49:23,669
I mean, if the most important people
value you,
801
00:49:23,752 --> 00:49:25,712
how can you not be valuable?
802
00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:35,347
Go to Kevyn. Say hi, Uncle Kevyn!
803
00:49:36,682 --> 00:49:37,974
I think there was a piece of him
804
00:49:38,058 --> 00:49:40,310
that really wanted to know
what his roots were,
805
00:49:40,394 --> 00:49:42,354
and to know
if he had brothers and sisters,
806
00:49:42,437 --> 00:49:44,439
and to know what these...
who these people were.
807
00:49:44,564 --> 00:49:47,567
Did they look like him?
I think that was a big question for Kevyn.
808
00:49:49,653 --> 00:49:51,029
Hey, guys.
809
00:49:51,488 --> 00:49:53,281
When I got married,
I had two boys.
810
00:49:53,365 --> 00:49:55,242
I always wanted a child named Kevin,
811
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:59,621
so I knew I'd probably never
see him again when I had Kevin.
812
00:49:59,705 --> 00:50:02,833
So I went ahead and named Kevin, Kevin.
813
00:50:02,916 --> 00:50:06,086
That's Kevin.
And then Keith.
814
00:50:06,169 --> 00:50:08,630
And that's Keith, he's looking at
US Magazine.
815
00:50:09,756 --> 00:50:10,716
John T.
816
00:50:10,799 --> 00:50:13,510
When I was 15,
John T was my friend.
817
00:50:14,678 --> 00:50:17,514
He was just a wonderful person,
818
00:50:17,597 --> 00:50:19,057
just so kind and nice.
819
00:50:19,141 --> 00:50:22,602
He asked me to marry him
and keep the baby,
820
00:50:22,686 --> 00:50:24,479
even though it wasn't his.
821
00:50:25,147 --> 00:50:26,815
And I told him no,
822
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:29,776
because I didn't love him
and I couldn't do him like that.
823
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,987
I was not gonna marry him
and not love him,
824
00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:33,196
because it wouldn't last.
825
00:50:34,531 --> 00:50:40,036
Kevyn, he really had a thing about
giving him up for adoption.
826
00:50:40,203 --> 00:50:43,832
Him and Keith was walking from down there
at Keith's house up to here,
827
00:50:43,915 --> 00:50:48,462
and he told Keith, he said, "You know, I
can't understand why she didn't keep me,
828
00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:50,630
and let me be raised with y'all."
829
00:50:51,339 --> 00:50:52,632
Keith said,
830
00:50:52,716 --> 00:50:54,634
"Kevyn, I got something I wanna tell you,"
831
00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:56,303
and he said, "You're not gonna like it."
832
00:50:56,386 --> 00:50:59,306
But he said,
"Mother didn't love Daddy then.
833
00:50:59,431 --> 00:51:02,684
She told us that she did not love Daddy,
834
00:51:02,809 --> 00:51:06,188
and that she wasn't gonna marry him
and ruin his life.
835
00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:09,733
I said "Oh, my God,
that was my grandmothers."
836
00:51:10,233 --> 00:51:12,360
Probably about three or four months
after I came home,
837
00:51:12,444 --> 00:51:14,696
I realized I was in love with John T.
838
00:51:15,363 --> 00:51:16,823
That all right back there?
839
00:51:16,948 --> 00:51:19,159
Kevyn was born February the 14th,
840
00:51:19,242 --> 00:51:22,454
and we got married
September the 28th after that.
And I wrote letters to the state,
'cause I wanted him back.
841
00:51:25,832 --> 00:51:29,753
You had so many months
that you could change your mind,
842
00:51:29,836 --> 00:51:31,296
and I could have got him back.
843
00:51:32,506 --> 00:51:36,176
They wrote me a letter and told me
they wouldn't unseal the deal
844
00:51:36,259 --> 00:51:38,804
where I could find out, you know,
where Kevyn went.
845
00:51:38,929 --> 00:51:41,807
And I couldn't... I couldn't find him.
I didn't know where he was.
846
00:51:43,642 --> 00:51:48,563
I had Kevin, my son with John T, in 1963.
847
00:51:48,688 --> 00:51:50,190
I just...
848
00:51:50,273 --> 00:51:55,570
I would look at Kevin and I would remember
Kevyn Aucoin, and I would cry.
849
00:51:56,488 --> 00:51:58,615
When you swing the arm down,
coming this way...
850
00:51:58,740 --> 00:52:02,994
When Whitney and I
met Kevyn, we were all young.
851
00:52:03,078 --> 00:52:06,164
You know, he was at that peak
in his career,
852
00:52:06,248 --> 00:52:10,544
and Whitney was, you know,
moving upwards as well.
853
00:52:15,924 --> 00:52:18,218
Stand by, Cofey.
Lower the card a little bit.
854
00:52:21,638 --> 00:52:23,807
And here we go. Good day?
855
00:52:23,890 --> 00:52:26,434
Madness. Woo!
856
00:52:27,561 --> 00:52:31,690
He became friends with
Whitney and her friend Robyn.
857
00:52:31,773 --> 00:52:34,609
Kevyn was like family
in the room with us,
858
00:52:34,693 --> 00:52:36,903
and the energy that he brought,
859
00:52:37,028 --> 00:52:40,657
it made me relax where I knew...
860
00:52:40,740 --> 00:52:43,076
you know, Whitney was in good hands.
861
00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:44,828
And she would relax.
862
00:52:44,911 --> 00:52:48,331
So if she was cool, I knew everyone else
would be as well.
863
00:52:48,415 --> 00:52:49,541
What, darling?
864
00:52:49,666 --> 00:52:52,210
- A word from our sponsor.
-A word from our sponsor.
865
00:52:53,378 --> 00:52:54,921
-Oh, that's terrible.
-Who's our sponsor?
866
00:52:55,714 --> 00:52:56,673
Uh, Kevyn Aucoin.
867
00:52:56,756 --> 00:52:58,425
-Oh what, am I your sponsor?
- Yes.
868
00:52:59,134 --> 00:53:00,719
Kevyn Aucoin Cosmetics?
869
00:53:00,844 --> 00:53:03,680
Yes. This is a...
this is a makeup uh...
870
00:53:03,805 --> 00:53:06,516
-The natural.
- ...an advertisement for uh...
871
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,687
The natural. The natural.
I'm going to the other side,
872
00:53:10,812 --> 00:53:12,272
'cause this is not working.
873
00:53:12,355 --> 00:53:14,608
It was Kevyn, he always showed up
with his camera.
874
00:53:14,691 --> 00:53:17,944
But you didn't feel like
he was intruding at all.
875
00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:20,697
I think he understood her magnitude
876
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:22,198
and power that she had.
877
00:53:22,949 --> 00:53:24,075
I'm sleepy.
878
00:53:24,492 --> 00:53:28,788
And he handled her
in a way where she felt...
879
00:53:31,207 --> 00:53:32,792
where she felt like she could be.
880
00:53:42,636 --> 00:53:43,929
Okay.
881
00:53:44,012 --> 00:53:47,641
You know, and at that time, people didn't
talk much about adoption,
882
00:53:47,766 --> 00:53:50,894
and I didn't know really
a whole lot about it.
883
00:53:50,977 --> 00:53:56,858
The difference with adoption today
and yesterday, or at Kevyn's time,
884
00:53:56,942 --> 00:53:58,777
every situation is different.
885
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:01,613
I have twins, a boy and a girl.
886
00:54:01,696 --> 00:54:04,574
They were adopted. They understand that.
887
00:54:04,658 --> 00:54:07,243
Some children have a mom and a dad.
888
00:54:07,369 --> 00:54:09,663
Some have just a mom,
889
00:54:09,746 --> 00:54:13,708
some have a grandmom
or a sibling raising them.
890
00:54:13,833 --> 00:54:17,587
And they are their parents.
891
00:54:17,671 --> 00:54:21,591
And they love you.
And that's all that matters,
892
00:54:22,342 --> 00:54:24,761
that you are loved. Period.
893
00:54:25,428 --> 00:54:29,307
- I gotta go.
894
00:54:29,432 --> 00:54:33,603
We didn't belabor it, but Kevyn,
he did, you know, flat out
895
00:54:33,687 --> 00:54:39,317
talk about his situation
with his birth mother.
896
00:54:39,734 --> 00:54:44,406
Whatever was going on back then for him
was very painful
897
00:54:44,531 --> 00:54:47,075
because he would tear up about it.
898
00:54:47,158 --> 00:54:49,411
I'm telling you.
But you know what, Nelda?
899
00:54:49,494 --> 00:54:51,287
I wanna tell you something.
900
00:54:51,371 --> 00:54:53,957
Without makeup, it's much better.
901
00:54:54,082 --> 00:54:55,792
-You gotta be kidding.
- No, I'm not kidding.
902
00:54:55,875 --> 00:54:57,085
I'm not kidding at all.
903
00:54:57,168 --> 00:54:58,294
I've told her that
for years and years.
904
00:54:58,378 --> 00:55:00,547
He's told me that.
He's told me that for years.
905
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:03,341
No, 'cause we'll...
You'll see. We'll fix it.
906
00:55:04,884 --> 00:55:06,636
We were so much alike.
907
00:55:07,303 --> 00:55:11,307
We really couldn't
get along real good.
908
00:55:11,391 --> 00:55:14,644
-Should I fix my hair?
- You can just fluff it up.
909
00:55:15,103 --> 00:55:19,524
He would argue with me,
and talk back to me, and...
910
00:55:19,607 --> 00:55:22,736
I mean, he wanted to be close to me,
but he just didn't know how.
911
00:55:22,861 --> 00:55:25,739
"Dear Nelda, thank you so much
for the beautiful quilt.
912
00:55:27,407 --> 00:55:29,159
Something, wore...
913
00:55:30,785 --> 00:55:33,872
something and it... color was perfect.
914
00:55:35,582 --> 00:55:39,627
It took a... I bet it took a long time.
I really appreciate it.
915
00:55:39,711 --> 00:55:42,172
Talk to you soon. Say hello, all."
916
00:55:42,255 --> 00:55:43,715
He writes like a doctor.
917
00:55:47,427 --> 00:55:50,346
He wasn't raised
like my two boys were raised.
918
00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:53,892
He had a completely
different background than my boys had.
919
00:55:54,934 --> 00:55:58,063
It's interesting when adopted children
meet their adopted parents,
920
00:55:58,188 --> 00:56:01,441
it's very, very common for there to be
no connection whatsoever.
921
00:56:01,524 --> 00:56:03,443
Because there's a fantasy
that you've built in your head
922
00:56:03,526 --> 00:56:06,029
that your mother's
been there longing for you.
923
00:56:06,112 --> 00:56:08,740
Maybe it was a mistake,
she's been wishing and wondering.
924
00:56:08,865 --> 00:56:12,911
But inevitably, in many cases,
it's not the case.
925
00:56:12,994 --> 00:56:16,414
And it's just like meeting
someone at a bus stop,
926
00:56:16,498 --> 00:56:17,832
or someone in a store.
927
00:56:17,916 --> 00:56:20,043
You don't know anything about each other.
928
00:56:20,168 --> 00:56:22,754
You've got no common stories to share.
929
00:56:22,837 --> 00:56:25,632
You're two completely random people
930
00:56:25,715 --> 00:56:29,636
who just happened to be related by blood,
and that's your only connection.
931
00:56:29,761 --> 00:56:34,182
He wanted so bad to love me
because I'm his real mother.
932
00:56:35,975 --> 00:56:39,646
And I have another one that
he's looking out to the stars.
933
00:56:39,771 --> 00:56:42,148
One day, I just got up
thinking about Kevyn.
934
00:56:42,232 --> 00:56:47,195
I was sitting there thinking about him,
holding him while he was a baby.
935
00:56:47,278 --> 00:56:49,864
I thought about that all the time.
And I was crying,
936
00:56:49,948 --> 00:56:52,867
John T asked me what was wrong,
and I told him.
937
00:56:52,951 --> 00:56:55,120
I just got up thinking about Kevyn.
938
00:56:55,745 --> 00:56:58,206
And I want...
I didn't want that grown man,
939
00:56:58,289 --> 00:57:00,375
I wanted my baby back.
940
00:57:00,458 --> 00:57:02,585
At the time, I just felt like...
941
00:57:02,669 --> 00:57:06,673
you know, I wanted that baby that I lost.
942
00:57:06,756 --> 00:57:09,926
If I had raised him,
he would be different.
943
00:57:10,009 --> 00:57:12,178
He wouldn't be the man he-he was.
944
00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:14,305
He probably wouldn't be
doing makeup either
945
00:57:14,430 --> 00:57:16,850
'cause I'd have whipped his tail.
He wouldn't have run away from me.
946
00:57:16,975 --> 00:57:18,518
Never thought Kevyn was gay,
947
00:57:18,601 --> 00:57:22,647
taking pictures of the women
he was with like that.
948
00:57:23,523 --> 00:57:25,150
After all I'd been through,
949
00:57:26,276 --> 00:57:28,403
and having Kevyn
and having to give him up,
950
00:57:28,486 --> 00:57:31,030
and all that that I went through,
951
00:57:31,114 --> 00:57:34,617
then he told me he was gay.
952
00:57:34,701 --> 00:57:36,202
And that just almost killed me,
953
00:57:36,327 --> 00:57:38,663
because I don't believe in that.
954
00:57:39,539 --> 00:57:42,125
I believe in the Bible,
I believe in the Lord.
955
00:57:42,208 --> 00:57:45,211
You know, the lord says in the Bible,
man shall not be with man,
956
00:57:45,295 --> 00:57:49,174
and woman shall not be with woman.
It's an abomination unto God.
957
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,552
And I wanted him to go to heaven.
958
00:57:52,635 --> 00:57:54,345
That picture on the end over there...
959
00:57:54,971 --> 00:57:57,807
is the picture that
I had made at the hospital.
960
00:57:57,891 --> 00:58:02,270
I told him, "If I had raised you,
you wouldn't be gay."
961
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,358
I remember him being devastated
962
00:58:07,442 --> 00:58:11,196
because he said she rejected me twice,
963
00:58:11,279 --> 00:58:15,575
and it was not what he was hoping for.
964
00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:17,911
Whatever the Bible says,
965
00:58:18,953 --> 00:58:20,705
that's the way I believe.
966
00:58:24,959 --> 00:58:26,211
So I just...
967
00:58:28,129 --> 00:58:30,381
I couldn't hardly cope with it.
968
00:58:47,941 --> 00:58:51,319
He didn't get
the big answers that he was looking for.
969
00:58:51,402 --> 00:58:56,574
He didn't get the revelations,
he didn't get the self-knowledge.
970
00:58:58,409 --> 00:59:04,832
Kevyn and I even had a conversation about
having grown up feeling unvalued,
971
00:59:04,916 --> 00:59:09,087
and how it was a little bit like being,
uh, a cup without a bottom.
972
00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:12,674
You just keep pouring the liquid in,
and it just keeps going out.
973
00:59:12,757 --> 00:59:16,052
And how to
restore that bottom,
974
00:59:16,135 --> 00:59:18,555
and both of us were
sort of struggling with
975
00:59:18,638 --> 00:59:22,976
how do we fill a cup
that doesn't have a bottom?
976
00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:33,111
Kevyn's biggest motivation to succeed
was his abandonment issues.
977
00:59:34,195 --> 00:59:37,574
He had this thought that
if I work with you
978
00:59:37,657 --> 00:59:38,908
and you become my friend,
979
00:59:39,033 --> 00:59:42,620
and I make you pretty,
then you won't abandon me.
980
00:59:42,704 --> 00:59:44,914
I absolutely think that
he was looking for a mother figure
981
00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:46,499
in the people that he worked with.
982
00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:49,544
Oh, Kevyn. It's amazing!
983
00:59:49,627 --> 00:59:52,880
I do think that on some level,
he used celebrity
984
00:59:52,964 --> 00:59:57,343
and working with celebrities
to kind of fill up that void.
985
00:59:58,761 --> 01:00:03,016
Here we go. Straight away.
And playback.
986
01:00:17,196 --> 01:00:18,573
Aaaah!
987
01:00:18,656 --> 01:00:20,325
Killing me! Kevyn tickles me so much.
988
01:00:20,408 --> 01:00:24,412
Kevyn works the camera.
I swear to God. Look at him.
989
01:00:24,495 --> 01:00:27,707
Kevyn was getting to be
the go-to celebrity makeup artist,
990
01:00:27,790 --> 01:00:28,791
for sure.
991
01:00:28,875 --> 01:00:29,751
That's it.
992
01:00:35,590 --> 01:00:37,216
Wonderful, Susan.
993
01:00:39,761 --> 01:00:41,179
That's amazing.
994
01:00:41,262 --> 01:00:43,806
It seems very, oh, of course today
995
01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:48,019
because everybody's so interconnected
with celebrity and Instagram,
996
01:00:48,102 --> 01:00:49,812
and celebrities are selling magazines.
997
01:00:49,896 --> 01:00:51,981
But back then, that hadn't happened yet.
998
01:00:52,106 --> 01:00:55,902
There was a very clear line between
fashion and entertainment,
999
01:00:55,985 --> 01:00:59,656
and things like that.
And Kevyn crossed over,
1000
01:00:59,739 --> 01:01:02,575
and was able to kind of marry the two.
1001
01:01:06,287 --> 01:01:09,165
That's waking up in the morning.
1002
01:01:09,248 --> 01:01:10,833
There wasn't anything he couldn't do.
1003
01:01:10,917 --> 01:01:13,336
He could do something very natural,
1004
01:01:13,461 --> 01:01:16,923
all the way to the extreme
of making you into...
1005
01:01:17,006 --> 01:01:20,259
a man, or another character.
1006
01:01:20,927 --> 01:01:24,013
Yeah, I'll take down the makeup in my car.
1007
01:01:25,223 --> 01:01:28,267
Oh, my God. Unbelievable.
1008
01:01:30,019 --> 01:01:32,563
They loved him. And he loved it.
1009
01:01:33,189 --> 01:01:34,691
He was the best,
and really funny.
1010
01:01:34,774 --> 01:01:39,404
But the truth is, like there's no one
more vain than a famous woman.
1011
01:01:39,487 --> 01:01:41,447
My face is so round.
1012
01:01:41,572 --> 01:01:42,615
Your face is not so round.
1013
01:01:42,699 --> 01:01:43,991
That is not a round face.
1014
01:01:44,075 --> 01:01:48,496
This is my number one boy attribute,
are these ears
1015
01:01:48,579 --> 01:01:51,791
So I think everybody
would have endured him,
1016
01:01:51,874 --> 01:01:55,878
even if he was a jerk,
just to put their face in his hands.
1017
01:01:55,962 --> 01:01:58,089
Hi. It's Oscar morning.
1018
01:01:58,798 --> 01:02:00,717
We're at Shutters Hotel in Santa Monica.
1019
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,262
Kevyn made me up for the Oscars,
the year that I was nominated.
1020
01:02:05,930 --> 01:02:10,560
I think Kevyn was more kind of present
to what was happening than I was.
1021
01:02:10,643 --> 01:02:11,686
I'm so glad you brought this
1022
01:02:11,769 --> 01:02:13,646
because we've been saying
the whole weekend that we--
1023
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:14,939
I'll make a complete copy for you,
it'll be so much fun.
1024
01:02:15,022 --> 01:02:16,065
Okay. Okay, good.
1025
01:02:16,149 --> 01:02:17,775
I remember them doing my mother.
1026
01:02:17,859 --> 01:02:21,571
You know, he was very aware
what it would mean to her.
1027
01:02:22,363 --> 01:02:23,906
- Oh, wow.
-I love you, Kevyn.
1028
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:26,576
I've never felt so beautiful. What a day.
1029
01:02:26,659 --> 01:02:28,161
I was very nervous.
1030
01:02:28,286 --> 01:02:31,831
But Kevyn had a way of
disarming you immediately.
1031
01:02:32,999 --> 01:02:34,834
From food stamps to runway
in five minutes.
1032
01:02:35,334 --> 01:02:37,837
He was very good at kind of, you know,
1033
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,131
making you remember
that life was happening.
1034
01:02:40,214 --> 01:02:42,341
You were in your life.
1035
01:02:42,425 --> 01:02:43,801
The naughty nominee.
1036
01:02:43,885 --> 01:02:47,555
You know, he was good at
making moments be moments.
1037
01:02:47,638 --> 01:02:50,183
I'm in shock over this whole scenario.
1038
01:02:50,266 --> 01:02:53,478
I just can't believe we're going
to the Oscars and everything.
1039
01:02:53,561 --> 01:02:56,898
- And you're in it.
-And I'm in it. What the fuck?
1040
01:02:56,981 --> 01:02:59,901
What happened?
I'm having a what happened moment.
1041
01:02:59,984 --> 01:03:04,530
And definitely that morning, I mean,
it was, um, it was a moment.
1042
01:03:04,614 --> 01:03:05,573
These things.
1043
01:03:06,491 --> 01:03:07,784
Good luck.
1044
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,079
And the Oscar goes to...
1045
01:03:12,163 --> 01:03:13,790
Gwyneth Paltrow.
1046
01:03:13,873 --> 01:03:15,458
Oh, my God.
1047
01:03:19,462 --> 01:03:22,507
Movie Star Makeovers,
next.
1048
01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:24,842
Come on up here, Kevyn!
1049
01:03:27,011 --> 01:03:32,683
I first met Kevyn right about the time
when Kevyn was doing his book,
1050
01:03:32,767 --> 01:03:33,601
The Art of Makeup,
1051
01:03:33,684 --> 01:03:37,104
which really started to catapult him
into stardom.
1052
01:03:37,188 --> 01:03:40,691
He gives Claudia lip,
keeps Tina's look hip,
1053
01:03:40,775 --> 01:03:43,277
make Andie blush, and Gwyneth gush.
1054
01:03:43,361 --> 01:03:44,821
Oh, I just love him.
1055
01:03:45,404 --> 01:03:49,283
I believe that Kevyn,
when he started doing the books,
1056
01:03:49,408 --> 01:03:52,537
he wanted just women everywhere
1057
01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:54,705
to be able to do this to themselves.
1058
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:57,500
He wanted to share his knowledge
with women,
1059
01:03:57,583 --> 01:04:00,711
he wanted women
to just pick up that lipstick,
1060
01:04:00,795 --> 01:04:02,213
create yourself.
1061
01:04:04,048 --> 01:04:07,093
Kevin's books were
the best beauty books ever.
1062
01:04:07,176 --> 01:04:09,887
I think they did change the way
we look at beauty
1063
01:04:09,971 --> 01:04:13,474
in that he made us all dream.
1064
01:04:13,558 --> 01:04:16,686
Kevyn just did the makeup for this
history-making Rolling Stone cover.
1065
01:04:16,769 --> 01:04:19,272
Did y'all see this?
For their 30th anniversary featuring
1066
01:04:19,355 --> 01:04:23,025
Courtney Love, and Tina Turner
and Madonna.
1067
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:24,861
-Now whose makeup did you do?
- All of them.
1068
01:04:24,944 --> 01:04:26,445
You did all of them?
Yeah.
1069
01:04:26,529 --> 01:04:28,823
Well, what was that session like?
1070
01:04:29,949 --> 01:04:34,745
So he kind of went from this youthful,
young, whee energy,
1071
01:04:34,829 --> 01:04:39,584
like I'm doing what I wanted to do
all my life, to huge star.
1072
01:04:39,667 --> 01:04:42,712
Oh!
1073
01:04:42,795 --> 01:04:44,380
Oh, my God, Kevyn!
1074
01:04:44,463 --> 01:04:47,133
Oh, shit! Oh, my God.
1075
01:04:47,216 --> 01:04:49,135
Hi.
Hey, can you do my makeup? Hi!
1076
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:50,344
Oh, my God!
1077
01:04:51,095 --> 01:04:52,680
We saw you on Oprah!
1078
01:04:52,763 --> 01:04:53,806
Yeah, you saw Oprah?
1079
01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:55,474
Yeah. Oh, my God, you are talented.
1080
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,934
- Thank you!
-Oh, my God!
1081
01:04:57,018 --> 01:04:59,520
Kevyn was absolutely
one of the highest paid
1082
01:04:59,604 --> 01:05:01,230
makeup artists in the world.
1083
01:05:01,314 --> 01:05:04,734
He's transformed some of
the world's most gorgeous faces,
1084
01:05:04,817 --> 01:05:08,112
so he's gonna do his work
with this one right here.
1085
01:05:09,238 --> 01:05:12,617
He could be completely adorable.
1086
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:16,579
He was a brilliant artist.
There's no question.
1087
01:05:16,662 --> 01:05:19,749
He could be a complete pain in the ass.
1088
01:05:20,458 --> 01:05:22,543
Um, but I...
1089
01:05:22,668 --> 01:05:25,671
you know, that comes with the territory.
The more successful they are,
1090
01:05:25,755 --> 01:05:27,757
-the more difficult they are.
- Look how cute.
1091
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,635
Here we are on the set of Scream.
1092
01:05:30,718 --> 01:05:33,387
Which aptly describes
how we all feel at this moment.
1093
01:05:33,471 --> 01:05:35,348
-Can you make this less...
- No...
1094
01:05:35,473 --> 01:05:37,433
We were booking
ten and fifteen thousand a day
1095
01:05:37,516 --> 01:05:39,560
for eight and... eight and ten day
video shoots,
1096
01:05:39,644 --> 01:05:42,313
making eighty-five thousand
for a video with Janet Jackson.
1097
01:05:42,396 --> 01:05:43,356
I mean, it was unheard of.
1098
01:05:43,481 --> 01:05:45,274
So we felt valuable all of a sudden
1099
01:05:45,358 --> 01:05:48,444
because we were making all this money.
And then we got these egos.
1100
01:05:48,527 --> 01:05:50,154
And then we created these demands
1101
01:05:50,237 --> 01:05:52,365
of what we needed
in order to show up for work.
1102
01:05:52,448 --> 01:05:54,241
It don't work, it don't work.
1103
01:05:54,617 --> 01:05:57,995
One more thing that doesn't work
in this stupid fucking hotel.
1104
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:00,247
Hello, do you have a CD player? No.
1105
01:06:00,331 --> 01:06:02,208
Hello, do you have a VCR? No.
1106
01:06:02,333 --> 01:06:06,170
Hello, can you help me find
this or that? No.
1107
01:06:06,295 --> 01:06:07,672
Do you know what your name is?
1108
01:06:07,755 --> 01:06:10,174
Hello? Call housekeeping,
call housekeeping.
1109
01:06:10,257 --> 01:06:12,176
-So I said--
- Fuck you.
1110
01:06:12,259 --> 01:06:16,055
I said, um, the housekeeping lady,
uh, doesn't even speak English
1111
01:06:16,138 --> 01:06:19,725
and um, is she like the concierge,
or are you the fucking concierge?
1112
01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:21,560
And what the fuck
does that mean anyway, here?
1113
01:06:21,644 --> 01:06:25,398
Does concierge mean
call housekeeping?
1114
01:06:25,481 --> 01:06:27,149
I would say he became a control freak,
1115
01:06:27,274 --> 01:06:29,068
and he would tell everybody what to do.
1116
01:06:29,193 --> 01:06:31,862
He was control, he was the star
of the room, he really was.
1117
01:06:31,946 --> 01:06:34,448
You were not the star, he was the star.
1118
01:06:35,074 --> 01:06:39,453
And I would just like to say that
the proof of the existence of God
1119
01:06:39,537 --> 01:06:42,081
is that she sent Kevyn Aucoin.
1120
01:06:44,792 --> 01:06:48,838
One of the things that happens to you
if you become famous is that
1121
01:06:48,921 --> 01:06:51,090
everybody will kiss your ass,
and then suddenly you will think
1122
01:06:51,173 --> 01:06:53,467
you're more important than God.
That's just the way it goes.
1123
01:06:54,135 --> 01:06:57,763
He would do
eight, nine, ten hours of just makeup,
1124
01:06:57,847 --> 01:07:00,683
and then hair would have no time,
and then styling would have no time.
1125
01:07:00,766 --> 01:07:02,435
But you never crossed him.
1126
01:07:02,518 --> 01:07:07,690
When we work together, it's so wonderful
because we don't pre-judge.
1127
01:07:07,773 --> 01:07:11,318
You know, we just go in and say,
"Okay, let's see what these people like."
1128
01:07:11,444 --> 01:07:12,361
Right.
1129
01:07:12,486 --> 01:07:13,612
People are like, "Oh, they're horrible.
They're horrible."
1130
01:07:13,696 --> 01:07:14,905
And then we find out they're not horrible.
1131
01:07:15,031 --> 01:07:16,866
And then people say to us,
"Oh, you're lying."
1132
01:07:16,949 --> 01:07:18,492
You know, "Oh, it couldn't be possible."
1133
01:07:18,576 --> 01:07:20,578
-And people say that about us.
-Yes. Exactly, exactly.
1134
01:07:20,661 --> 01:07:22,830
I mean, I've heard things about me
that I have an attitude,
1135
01:07:22,913 --> 01:07:25,875
and I mean,
and I don't really recognize myself
1136
01:07:25,958 --> 01:07:28,252
in those descriptions that I hear.
1137
01:07:28,335 --> 01:07:30,504
But hey, if that's their opinion, then...
1138
01:07:30,588 --> 01:07:31,839
Well, I think when you get
to a certain level,
1139
01:07:31,922 --> 01:07:34,008
people have a certain amount of jealousy
1140
01:07:34,091 --> 01:07:39,055
and they start to, um, you know,
they start to want to bring you down.
1141
01:07:39,138 --> 01:07:42,016
You know, we were in Nice,
the south of France,
1142
01:07:42,099 --> 01:07:43,184
at Tina Turner's house.
1143
01:07:43,309 --> 01:07:44,810
Kevin wouldn't come out of the room
1144
01:07:44,894 --> 01:07:46,729
because he thought that it was too hot,
1145
01:07:46,812 --> 01:07:49,315
and they couldn't air condition
Tina's backyard.
1146
01:07:49,398 --> 01:07:51,275
No, don't film this, please.
1147
01:07:53,277 --> 01:07:56,363
They came out of the room. Kevyn goes,
"I'm not doing this," with his lisp,
1148
01:07:56,447 --> 01:07:59,575
"I'm not being in this, it's too hot.
I'm not... Can't we shoot it inside?"
1149
01:07:59,658 --> 01:08:00,576
And Peter Lindbergh was like,
1150
01:08:00,659 --> 01:08:02,661
"Shoot inside?
We've got the south of France,
1151
01:08:02,745 --> 01:08:05,539
we've got the Côte d'Azur.
We're not shooting inside."
1152
01:08:05,623 --> 01:08:07,124
Kevyn stormed off the set,
1153
01:08:07,208 --> 01:08:10,461
and anybody who knows Kevyn
watching this has been through this.
1154
01:08:10,544 --> 01:08:12,588
Stormed off the set,
went into the guest room,
1155
01:08:12,671 --> 01:08:15,883
and sat there and talked on his phone
the whole shoot.
1156
01:08:15,966 --> 01:08:17,593
...losing my mind.
1157
01:08:17,676 --> 01:08:20,054
Tina Turner grabbed me, she goes,
"Get over here. Come over here right now."
1158
01:08:20,137 --> 01:08:21,305
She grabbed me and she goes,
"Come with me."
1159
01:08:21,388 --> 01:08:25,434
And she ran me up this three-story
spiral staircase to the ceiling.
1160
01:08:25,518 --> 01:08:27,686
We get to the top,
and we're in her bedroom.
1161
01:08:27,770 --> 01:08:28,938
And then she took a little, uh,
1162
01:08:29,021 --> 01:08:31,690
eyeliner, put it on,
a little Tina Turner gold lipstick,
1163
01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:33,150
went out and did the whole shoot.
1164
01:08:33,234 --> 01:08:35,361
Kevyn never knew what happened
'cause he never came out of the room.
1165
01:08:35,444 --> 01:08:36,737
I don't fuck up.
1166
01:08:36,821 --> 01:08:38,197
- Ever?
-Ever.
1167
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:39,532
As someone who is adopted,
1168
01:08:39,615 --> 01:08:42,034
I do know that when you get
to the top of the tree,
1169
01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:45,412
and you realize I can't really go
much higher than I am,
1170
01:08:45,496 --> 01:08:49,416
I am as successful as I can be,
I'm making money,
1171
01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:52,545
and I still feel the same.
You kind of feel worse.
1172
01:08:52,670 --> 01:08:56,048
'Cause there's nowhere else to look to,
that you think you can go
1173
01:08:56,132 --> 01:08:58,843
to make yourself feel better
because you are there.
1174
01:08:58,926 --> 01:09:01,262
You're at the top
and you still feel the same.
1175
01:09:03,389 --> 01:09:06,183
I should stop doing this.
1176
01:09:09,436 --> 01:09:12,648
I have no patience for this anymore.
1177
01:09:12,773 --> 01:09:15,943
Ours was a relationship
where it was personal and business,
1178
01:09:16,026 --> 01:09:18,154
so it was so intertwined.
I mean, there were times that,
1179
01:09:18,237 --> 01:09:21,031
you know, I would be on the phone with him
at three in the morning,
1180
01:09:21,115 --> 01:09:22,533
"Where's my car? Where's my car?"
1181
01:09:22,616 --> 01:09:26,162
And I'm like,
"Kevyn, you know, I'm in bed."
1182
01:09:26,245 --> 01:09:28,873
It took a toll
on our relationship, for sure.
1183
01:09:28,956 --> 01:09:33,502
And Kevyn had this history of going
from relationship to relationship
1184
01:09:33,586 --> 01:09:34,879
to relationship,
1185
01:09:34,962 --> 01:09:37,131
without clear breaks.
1186
01:09:37,214 --> 01:09:38,591
-You got us in the picture?
-Hi.
1187
01:09:39,049 --> 01:09:41,343
But even after we broke up,
1188
01:09:41,468 --> 01:09:43,512
we were still extremely close.
1189
01:09:43,596 --> 01:09:45,598
We were like brothers,
we were like family.
1190
01:09:46,515 --> 01:09:48,017
How do you say
I love you in Russian?
1191
01:09:52,563 --> 01:09:53,689
Say it again?
1192
01:10:06,744 --> 01:10:13,083
I met Kevyn Aucoin,
um, my first year of college.
1193
01:10:13,209 --> 01:10:14,293
He was much older than me.
1194
01:10:14,376 --> 01:10:16,587
Look in here, look into there.
Not at the screen.
1195
01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:17,546
Okay.
1196
01:10:17,671 --> 01:10:20,216
I wasn't out when we first got together,
1197
01:10:20,299 --> 01:10:22,593
and the most important thing
Kevyn taught me
1198
01:10:22,676 --> 01:10:24,511
was how to stand up for myself.
1199
01:10:24,595 --> 01:10:28,849
He made me understand that when
I was afraid to come out to my father,
1200
01:10:28,933 --> 01:10:31,894
that it wasn't my problem
with me being gay,
1201
01:10:31,977 --> 01:10:33,854
it was his problem with me being gay.
1202
01:10:33,938 --> 01:10:37,066
'Cause I was perfectly fine
with the fact that I was gay.
1203
01:10:37,191 --> 01:10:41,779
And that contextual sort of reversal,
or flipping the situation around,
1204
01:10:41,904 --> 01:10:45,074
and being like wait a second,
don't hang your shit on me.
1205
01:10:45,157 --> 01:10:48,118
This is your problem to deal with,
not my problem to deal with.
1206
01:10:48,244 --> 01:10:51,789
'Cause I'm 37 years old,
and I grew up in Lafayette, Louisiana.
1207
01:10:53,207 --> 01:10:55,376
Yeah, thank you.
1208
01:10:55,459 --> 01:10:58,587
Grew up in Lafayette, Louisiana.
My grandfather was in the KKK.
1209
01:10:59,255 --> 01:11:00,756
My... I was adopted.
1210
01:11:00,881 --> 01:11:04,927
Kevyn was very, very involved
in helping gay youth
1211
01:11:05,010 --> 01:11:08,347
because he lived it,
and he used his success
1212
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:10,641
as a beacon of hope
for so many young kids
1213
01:11:10,724 --> 01:11:14,478
because at the time
when he was doing all of this,
1214
01:11:14,561 --> 01:11:17,982
there was no one that had such
a high profile as he did,
1215
01:11:18,065 --> 01:11:19,149
doing what he was doing.
1216
01:11:19,233 --> 01:11:21,193
Everyone at
the Hetrick-Martin school.
1217
01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:23,112
-Exactly. Yeah.
- Hey, kids. Okay.
1218
01:11:23,195 --> 01:11:24,071
That's much better.
1219
01:11:24,154 --> 01:11:26,782
Okay. Whenever you're ready.
1220
01:11:27,157 --> 01:11:28,158
Hey, kids.
1221
01:11:28,242 --> 01:11:29,994
I'm Jennifer Lopez
and I'm here with Kevyn,
1222
01:11:30,077 --> 01:11:33,080
and I'm just sending you a message.
Be proud of who you are.
1223
01:11:33,205 --> 01:11:36,292
Never be ashamed of who you are
'cause you're beautiful.
1224
01:11:36,375 --> 01:11:37,876
Whenever you're ready.
1225
01:11:38,794 --> 01:11:42,006
Hi, kids. Kevyn just made me up.
How do I look?
1226
01:11:42,089 --> 01:11:44,133
-Gorgeous, huh?
1227
01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:49,054
It's good to see you
and have a chat with you.
1228
01:11:49,179 --> 01:11:53,809
Chin, chin. Chin up, keep fighting.
You'll make it. I did.
1229
01:11:56,228 --> 01:12:00,190
He was like, this like,
storm of like, emotion
1230
01:12:00,274 --> 01:12:01,650
and, uh, excitement.
1231
01:12:01,734 --> 01:12:03,902
I mean, it was everything, all the time.
1232
01:12:03,986 --> 01:12:08,115
We're here in Miami.
We're in Orlando's beautiful apartment.
1233
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,659
She's so kind to let us stay in.
1234
01:12:10,784 --> 01:12:12,619
We've got her clothes here and here.
1235
01:12:12,703 --> 01:12:15,080
They're on some of
these beautiful chairs.
1236
01:12:15,164 --> 01:12:18,542
And we're gonna go out to Liquid,
1237
01:12:18,625 --> 01:12:21,795
um, and hopefully see some celebrities.
1238
01:12:21,879 --> 01:12:24,465
He started having some pain issues.
1239
01:12:24,548 --> 01:12:30,346
We're not gonna dance because my back
about right here is hurting me a lot.
1240
01:12:30,429 --> 01:12:32,431
His back always hurt him.
1241
01:12:32,514 --> 01:12:35,684
He was always in pain in his back,
and I would always have to like...
1242
01:12:35,768 --> 01:12:39,688
And I'm... I'm a big guy.
I would walk on his back.
1243
01:12:39,772 --> 01:12:43,400
And it was never deep or hard enough.
1244
01:12:43,484 --> 01:12:46,987
He was always in
so much pain in his... in his body.
1245
01:12:47,071 --> 01:12:49,615
He talked about not feeling good,
1246
01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:52,326
and trying to get control
over his health.
1247
01:12:52,451 --> 01:12:55,454
And Kevin was very uncomfortable,
physically uncomfortable.
1248
01:12:55,537 --> 01:12:59,291
He had headaches, and his hands hurt.
1249
01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:01,835
It definitely affected him.
I think he tried to put on a happy face,
1250
01:13:01,919 --> 01:13:06,215
but he had to open the windows
'cause he was blazing hot, you know.
1251
01:13:06,298 --> 01:13:07,591
Just sweating.
1252
01:13:07,674 --> 01:13:11,470
Pressure for Kevyn was
really hard for him to handle.
1253
01:13:11,553 --> 01:13:15,849
You know, there were multiple bookings
always that came in.
1254
01:13:15,933 --> 01:13:18,769
You know, for days.
I mean, if you looked at his schedule,
1255
01:13:18,852 --> 01:13:24,900
it was you know, Cher, Tina, Janet,
uh, Gwyneth, Winona
1256
01:13:25,025 --> 01:13:26,443
in one week.
1257
01:13:26,527 --> 01:13:30,030
Monsieur Aucoin, very stressed.
1258
01:13:30,114 --> 01:13:32,032
When our relationship ended,
it was difficult
1259
01:13:32,116 --> 01:13:33,242
because Kevyn was like this.
1260
01:13:33,325 --> 01:13:36,161
He didn't want-let anything go
that he didn't want to let go.
1261
01:13:36,286 --> 01:13:39,540
But I wasn't ever gonna make him happy.
1262
01:13:40,207 --> 01:13:43,961
I was never gonna give him what he needed
and what he wanted out of a relationship,
1263
01:13:44,044 --> 01:13:48,799
which was somebody
who was his support system.
1264
01:13:48,882 --> 01:13:50,801
I had my own path to fight and find.
1265
01:13:56,849 --> 01:14:00,644
Jeremy made himself available to Kevyn
in such a way that
1266
01:14:00,727 --> 01:14:02,813
Kevyn thought he was gonna fill that void.
1267
01:14:02,896 --> 01:14:05,607
He met Jeremy through a friend.
1268
01:14:05,691 --> 01:14:09,027
I think that Jeremy represented another,
you know,
1269
01:14:09,111 --> 01:14:11,029
aspect to having it all for him.
1270
01:14:14,116 --> 01:14:17,828
So that over there is the house.
1271
01:14:17,911 --> 01:14:21,165
So Kevyn bought a house
up in Middleton, New York.
1272
01:14:21,248 --> 01:14:25,794
Uh, Rose Cottage, which was like, I think
the former estate of Laura Ashley.
1273
01:14:25,919 --> 01:14:30,174
Beautiful, beautiful, um, horse farm.
1274
01:14:30,257 --> 01:14:32,009
He always wanted a family,
1275
01:14:32,134 --> 01:14:36,513
so here he had the perfect house,
the perfect...
1276
01:14:36,597 --> 01:14:39,475
the perfect husband,
you know, with Jeremy.
1277
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,769
And you know, this idyllic setting.
1278
01:14:42,853 --> 01:14:45,397
But he was still experiencing pain.
1279
01:14:46,773 --> 01:14:48,484
That's the house.
1280
01:14:51,945 --> 01:14:53,155
There's Alex.
1281
01:14:53,697 --> 01:14:58,535
I started noticing that
he was having massive headaches,
1282
01:14:58,660 --> 01:15:02,372
like migraines that were mind-blowing.
1283
01:15:03,540 --> 01:15:07,294
Backstage at a, um, Tori Amos concert,
1284
01:15:07,377 --> 01:15:11,089
he felt he had a headache,
and next thing he knew, he fell.
1285
01:15:11,173 --> 01:15:13,634
He just passed out on the ground.
1286
01:15:14,259 --> 01:15:18,222
So that was the beginning
of actually knowing
1287
01:15:18,305 --> 01:15:20,641
that something serious was going on.
1288
01:15:20,724 --> 01:15:24,311
He flew to, uh, to do a video for Cher,
1289
01:15:24,394 --> 01:15:26,230
and he was in a lot of pain.
1290
01:15:29,274 --> 01:15:31,735
I said, "You're at
the Four Seasons Hotel.
1291
01:15:31,818 --> 01:15:33,987
Why don't you just have them
call a doctor?"
1292
01:15:34,071 --> 01:15:37,824
And a doctor that came to him
had specialized in acromegaly,
1293
01:15:37,908 --> 01:15:39,201
just by chance.
1294
01:15:39,284 --> 01:15:43,705
Looked at him, and within five minutes
said, "I think you have acromegaly."
1295
01:15:51,713 --> 01:15:55,509
When we found out that he had acromegaly,
I mean, it all made sense.
1296
01:15:55,592 --> 01:15:59,888
I mean, he had grown. I mean, you know,
a couple inches in the past few years.
1297
01:15:59,972 --> 01:16:03,475
You know, his fingers,
his hands were so big.
1298
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,352
His face actually changed.
1299
01:16:05,435 --> 01:16:08,438
Things got distorted,
his nose grew bigger, his ears.
1300
01:16:08,522 --> 01:16:11,191
You know,
so I think he saw this over time.
1301
01:16:11,275 --> 01:16:14,111
Here's someone who, for a living,
is a makeup artist
1302
01:16:14,194 --> 01:16:20,200
who, uh, is trying to
symmetrically balance someone's face,
1303
01:16:20,284 --> 01:16:23,245
which is crucial in beauty sometimes,
1304
01:16:23,328 --> 01:16:25,872
so that for him to see
his own features change
1305
01:16:25,956 --> 01:16:31,420
subtly, all the time,
it must have been a real mind-fuck.
1306
01:16:32,254 --> 01:16:34,423
Kevyn was very insecure
about his own looks.
1307
01:16:34,506 --> 01:16:37,342
And when we were together,
1308
01:16:37,426 --> 01:16:41,430
he would ask like, "Do you think
I'm attractive?" And all this stuff.
1309
01:16:41,513 --> 01:16:45,309
But, um, I'm sure that for him,
dealing with a disease
1310
01:16:45,392 --> 01:16:49,062
that not only made him physically,
um, uncomfortable
1311
01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:52,816
but also change physically
must have been very difficult.
1312
01:16:54,234 --> 01:16:55,611
I look terrible.
1313
01:16:55,986 --> 01:16:58,655
They eventually operated on,
1314
01:16:58,739 --> 01:17:02,743
but weren't successful in
solving the pain problems.
1315
01:17:04,828 --> 01:17:07,456
So murky, the whole... the whole situation
1316
01:17:07,539 --> 01:17:12,169
because he legitimately had pain,
needed medication for his pain,
1317
01:17:12,252 --> 01:17:14,254
but we also thought that
he was abusing it.
1318
01:17:14,338 --> 01:17:16,798
So we just didn't know
what the reality was.
1319
01:17:16,882 --> 01:17:21,887
It was this slippery slope
that no one knew the truth to.
1320
01:17:21,970 --> 01:17:26,391
He was seeing multiple doctors,
going to different, uh, pharmacies,
1321
01:17:26,475 --> 01:17:30,062
getting, you know, playing that game
of trying to get more Vicodin.
And his career started to take a dive.
1322
01:17:38,945 --> 01:17:42,699
I started to see less and less
of Kevyn as he...
1323
01:17:42,783 --> 01:17:45,494
kind of started to spiral downwards.
1324
01:17:45,577 --> 01:17:49,373
He would not show up, and not call.
1325
01:17:49,456 --> 01:17:53,210
He changed a lot the last
couple of years that he was alive.
1326
01:17:57,798 --> 01:18:01,593
People were, you know,
didn't want to book him.
1327
01:18:01,718 --> 01:18:05,430
They were starting to, you know,
back away from his career.
1328
01:18:05,514 --> 01:18:08,058
There were rumors going on that,
you know,
1329
01:18:08,141 --> 01:18:09,434
about this in the industry,
1330
01:18:09,518 --> 01:18:11,728
and I'm sure, you know,
people were finding out.
1331
01:18:12,437 --> 01:18:15,315
Seems like now they're starting,
they told me they didn't want me anymore.
1332
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:16,483
What, really?
1333
01:18:16,608 --> 01:18:17,734
Mm-hmm.
1334
01:18:19,152 --> 01:18:21,029
Seems like yesterday they told me,
1335
01:18:21,113 --> 01:18:23,740
"We can't afford you.
There are some budget cuts."
1336
01:18:24,282 --> 01:18:25,409
Yeah, it wasn't budget cuts.
1337
01:18:25,492 --> 01:18:28,787
They did hear from people that, you know,
he takes a pill to get up in the morning,
1338
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:29,830
he takes a pill to go to sleep,
1339
01:18:29,913 --> 01:18:32,082
and takes a pill to get on a plane,
and takes a pill to get off a plane.
1340
01:18:35,252 --> 01:18:39,297
There was definitely, uh,
prescription drug abuse.
1341
01:18:39,965 --> 01:18:45,303
I knew that there were whispers
going around that he was not doing well.
1342
01:18:45,429 --> 01:18:49,099
He went and did Cher's video,
Song for the Lonely.
1343
01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:53,687
He was so sick that
he needed to not travel,
1344
01:18:53,812 --> 01:18:55,313
but he went for her.
1345
01:18:55,397 --> 01:18:56,773
It wasn't just about ego.
1346
01:18:56,857 --> 01:19:00,569
Toward the end, he had been canceled
so much that he needed the money.
1347
01:19:00,652 --> 01:19:02,571
And yes, he was using.
1348
01:19:02,654 --> 01:19:06,783
But he still showed up and did good work,
and then he collapsed.
1349
01:19:06,867 --> 01:19:09,077
They had to revive him. He was out.
1350
01:19:09,161 --> 01:19:13,206
And, uh, that was it for her and Kevyn.
1351
01:19:13,290 --> 01:19:15,959
Everyone was backing away
from him, unfortunately.
1352
01:19:16,042 --> 01:19:18,044
Um, he became a liability,
1353
01:19:18,128 --> 01:19:19,713
I think, for many of them.
1354
01:19:20,797 --> 01:19:24,676
I think April, 2002 was the first time
that he wasn't booked for the Oscars.
1355
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:28,889
And, uh, I think that really...
that was really hard for him.
1356
01:19:28,972 --> 01:19:33,018
I was so young when we were so close,
1357
01:19:33,143 --> 01:19:39,107
and I didn't have the wisdom
to understand that I could help.
1358
01:19:39,191 --> 01:19:43,028
I think it's scary when you're young
and you haven't been around addiction.
1359
01:19:43,111 --> 01:19:45,989
And you know, somebody that
you're very close to
1360
01:19:46,072 --> 01:19:48,325
starts to seem very different.
1361
01:19:48,408 --> 01:19:52,537
If it were today, I would handle it
completely differently, you know.
1362
01:19:52,621 --> 01:19:56,792
Um, I would be like, "What the fuck
are you doing? Let's...
1363
01:19:56,875 --> 01:19:59,628
I'm taking you somewhere,
we're gonna sort it out."
1364
01:19:59,711 --> 01:20:04,174
But at the time, it was...
I found it scary and overwhelming.
1365
01:20:04,674 --> 01:20:05,634
Well, you know...
1366
01:20:05,759 --> 01:20:09,137
Even if a million people tell me
that you're brilliant, that you're loved,
1367
01:20:09,262 --> 01:20:11,389
but if you don't feel it
inside you then...
1368
01:20:11,515 --> 01:20:13,433
It doesn't matter
how many people tell you
1369
01:20:13,517 --> 01:20:16,478
because their love for you
isn't real until...
1370
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:20,440
you believe that you deserve it...
1371
01:20:20,524 --> 01:20:22,818
you believe that you're worthy of it.
1372
01:20:22,943 --> 01:20:24,820
The drug use intensified.
1373
01:20:24,903 --> 01:20:29,783
It just, you know,
it started to get really out of control.
1374
01:20:29,866 --> 01:20:34,496
And Jeremy finally, you know,
said, "I can't take this anymore."
1375
01:20:34,579 --> 01:20:37,874
You know, "I just... I've had it."
1376
01:20:37,958 --> 01:20:40,418
He wanted to take a break,
and he left for Paris.
1377
01:20:40,502 --> 01:20:45,507
I think that, for Kevyn,
that whole issue of abandonment
1378
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:47,634
really kind of came into play.
1379
01:20:47,717 --> 01:20:51,555
And I think that put Kevyn
into a downward spiral.
1380
01:20:51,638 --> 01:20:53,849
That week, it was awful.
1381
01:20:53,932 --> 01:20:56,226
I mean, he just holed himself up
at the house
1382
01:20:56,309 --> 01:20:58,979
and just wouldn't let anybody in.
1383
01:21:13,994 --> 01:21:16,788
Kevyn, are you there?
1384
01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:21,001
I wish you would call me
because you said you were going to.
1385
01:21:21,126 --> 01:21:23,753
All right? So please give me a call.
1386
01:21:25,130 --> 01:21:27,883
The abandonment issues
were always there.
1387
01:21:28,008 --> 01:21:30,844
I don't know
if he ever saw his beauty.
1388
01:21:30,969 --> 01:21:35,056
This is somebody
who really cannot be alone.
1389
01:21:35,140 --> 01:21:37,934
Are you there?
1390
01:21:39,102 --> 01:21:42,355
Hello? Hello, hello, hello?
1391
01:21:43,773 --> 01:21:46,192
There was a tumor
on his pituitary gland.
1392
01:21:46,276 --> 01:21:49,487
And he said,
"I just don't want to go on anymore."
1393
01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:52,282
I knew that something
was wrong with his brain.
1394
01:21:52,365 --> 01:21:57,078
He was taking more
pain medication than he should have.
1395
01:21:57,162 --> 01:21:58,872
I was afraid to leave him.
1396
01:21:58,955 --> 01:22:01,333
He said
he was taking too much of it.
1397
01:22:01,416 --> 01:22:04,794
Hi. Anybody home?
1398
01:22:06,713 --> 01:22:10,050
He just laid on the floor
and passed out.
1399
01:22:10,133 --> 01:22:12,677
It wasn't his destiny to be saved.
1400
01:22:13,595 --> 01:22:16,598
Why do you think he shot
all of these video tapes?
1401
01:22:16,723 --> 01:22:20,977
There's a piece of me
that almost feels like...
1402
01:22:21,102 --> 01:22:23,229
he knew he was gonna die early.
1403
01:22:38,536 --> 01:22:41,247
I worried about him taking
too much medication,
1404
01:22:41,331 --> 01:22:44,459
and maybe if I'd done something
at that point in time,
1405
01:22:44,542 --> 01:22:46,878
it might have changed history.
1406
01:22:48,838 --> 01:22:52,425
Look, I'm almost crying myself right now.
1407
01:22:53,134 --> 01:22:55,470
Because I'm remembering all of this.
1408
01:23:01,017 --> 01:23:02,978
But I live with it every day.
1409
01:23:06,606 --> 01:23:09,234
We had to call an ambulance
and take Kevyn to the hospital.
1410
01:23:09,359 --> 01:23:11,444
Then the doctor came in and he said,
1411
01:23:11,569 --> 01:23:14,614
"Your friend's taken
this ingestion of pills,
1412
01:23:14,698 --> 01:23:18,702
and there's, um,
Tylenol, which is in the Vicodin,
1413
01:23:18,785 --> 01:23:20,996
and that's shut his liver down,"
1414
01:23:21,079 --> 01:23:23,206
and that we had to make
a decision to keep him on,
1415
01:23:23,289 --> 01:23:25,333
you know, life support or pull the plug.
1416
01:23:25,417 --> 01:23:29,295
And, um, Isidore had to
make that decision.
1417
01:23:29,379 --> 01:23:32,507
And that was a really,
really tough decision for him to make.
I said, "I want y'all to
take the respirator off,
1418
01:23:35,844 --> 01:23:37,470
and we'll see what happens."
1419
01:23:37,554 --> 01:23:40,056
But I said I'm leaving the room.
1420
01:23:40,140 --> 01:23:42,767
So I asked Eric to stay and watch.
1421
01:23:42,892 --> 01:23:46,980
And the last thing they told me he did,
when they pulled the respirator off,
1422
01:23:48,023 --> 01:23:52,485
right after that, he took one deep breath
it looked like, and that was it.
1423
01:23:54,195 --> 01:23:55,405
So when Orlando called me,
1424
01:23:55,488 --> 01:23:58,283
one of the questions I asked,
besides what happened,
1425
01:23:58,366 --> 01:24:01,745
was why didn't you call me sooner?
'Cause I would have come.
1426
01:24:04,664 --> 01:24:06,583
But I understand...
1427
01:24:10,962 --> 01:24:12,338
just um...
1428
01:24:36,946 --> 01:24:40,075
I got a message that
Kevyn had passed away.
1429
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:44,120
And I was devastated.
1430
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,707
I was devastated. I really was.
1431
01:24:50,376 --> 01:24:52,962
Someone said, and I'm not sure
if they said it at his service
1432
01:24:53,046 --> 01:24:54,547
or said to me after,
1433
01:24:54,631 --> 01:24:58,259
but just that he was a flame
that burned so bright,
1434
01:24:58,384 --> 01:25:02,222
it was like it burned so bright,
so strong, and then it just burns quick.
1435
01:25:03,473 --> 01:25:09,229
He was more than just what, you know,
those kids teased him about,
1436
01:25:09,312 --> 01:25:12,273
and he was more than
being a son that was adopted.
1437
01:25:12,398 --> 01:25:14,692
He was more than, um,
1438
01:25:14,859 --> 01:25:17,904
just a great makeup artist.
He was a sum of many things.
1439
01:25:17,987 --> 01:25:22,826
And because of that, he was able
to start using his voice
1440
01:25:22,909 --> 01:25:24,828
and talk about things,
and being an activist.
1441
01:25:25,703 --> 01:25:29,165
I stand here today in awe of
how far we've come,
1442
01:25:29,249 --> 01:25:31,084
and yet how far we have to go.
1443
01:25:31,167 --> 01:25:34,712
As long as there are Matthew Shepards
in this world, we must fight.
1444
01:25:34,796 --> 01:25:36,339
Not with violence and hatred,
1445
01:25:36,422 --> 01:25:39,467
but with love and compassion for those
who would like to see us disappear.
1446
01:25:44,264 --> 01:25:49,185
Mr. Aucoin's father
was someone who was in the KKK.
1447
01:25:49,310 --> 01:25:53,189
And it really shows a lot of who Kevyn was
1448
01:25:53,273 --> 01:25:56,067
because he, you know, insisted that
Isidore and Thelma
1449
01:25:56,151 --> 01:25:59,112
support him and fight for him,
1450
01:25:59,195 --> 01:26:02,907
and they really came around to
become champions of Kevyn.
1451
01:26:02,991 --> 01:26:06,619
You know, so much so that they started
the first chapter of PFLAG
1452
01:26:06,744 --> 01:26:08,246
in Lafayette, Louisiana.
1453
01:26:08,329 --> 01:26:13,084
And in fact, they even went to Congress
and spoke for gay rights.
1454
01:26:14,002 --> 01:26:16,671
He was trying to take everyone
1455
01:26:16,754 --> 01:26:19,966
and show them
the very best part of themselves,
because he knew
what that would feel like.
1456
01:26:23,386 --> 01:26:24,637
When you're not seeing it,
1457
01:26:24,721 --> 01:26:27,432
how amazing it is
when somebody lifts you up.
1458
01:26:27,515 --> 01:26:29,267
I'm so excited to meet you.
1459
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:33,146
Kevyn's idea of beauty
was about the power
1460
01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:35,690
of beauty and makeup
to be transformational.
1461
01:26:35,773 --> 01:26:37,901
For a woman to look at herself
for the first time
1462
01:26:37,984 --> 01:26:40,820
and see like, "Wow, I look beautiful,"
1463
01:26:40,945 --> 01:26:42,697
and how much confidence that gives them.
1464
01:26:42,822 --> 01:26:44,240
I'm crying.
1465
01:26:45,867 --> 01:26:51,748
His philosophy was that
anybody is and can be beautiful.
1466
01:26:51,831 --> 01:26:54,209
I'm so glad to meet you myself.
1467
01:26:56,502 --> 01:26:58,171
There'll never be another Kevyn Aucoin.
1468
01:26:58,254 --> 01:27:00,215
Never. Never, never.
1469
01:27:03,301 --> 01:27:07,805
Kevyn would have loved that the footage
would be seen by everyone.
1470
01:27:10,308 --> 01:27:12,101
He loved his family, he loved his nieces,
1471
01:27:12,268 --> 01:27:15,063
and would have loved leaving something
really valuable for them.
1472
01:27:15,188 --> 01:27:16,981
And that we are talking about him,
1473
01:27:17,065 --> 01:27:22,403
that we are honoring him,
that we're trying to understand him,
1474
01:27:22,528 --> 01:27:24,322
and that his legacy lives.
1475
01:27:24,405 --> 01:27:27,909
I know Kevyn... I know Kevyn.
1476
01:28:16,124 --> 01:28:17,750
So what do you do
with all this video?
1477
01:28:17,834 --> 01:28:18,710
What?
1478
01:28:18,793 --> 01:28:21,045
You just watch it, or do you edit,
edit it to make a movie out of it,
1479
01:28:21,129 --> 01:28:23,256
a feature-length, uh, documentary, or...