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Please remain seated with your hands

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and arms inside the vehicle at all times.

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When we started doing these adventures

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theme park exploration,
Wow, the spark was lit

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and led to all this.

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Breaking news: a man accused of stealing

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from the happiest place on Earth.

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He could face up to 30 years in prison

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if he is found guilty of all charges.

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Disney's black market
It's been a thing forever.

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Although Disney is a place of fantasy,

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is not immune to crime.

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Now, to a very strange crime

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at Walt Disney World.

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It is iconic, the only one on the planet.

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You were the last one to touch it.

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Where did he go?

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- Buzzy.
- Buzzy.

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- Buzzy.
- Buzzy.

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- Buzzy.
- Buzzy.

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- Buzzy.
- Buzzy.

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The Epcot animatronic

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closed Wonders of Life
was stolen.

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No, there's no way we would have thought

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that someone could take an animatronic.

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It wouldn't have even crossed my mind.

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Take Buzzy, it seems
That would be quite difficult.

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Don't know.

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How could it happen?

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If someone just came and took it,

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then you just did
Walt Disney World's "Ocean's 11."

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The figure itself is still missing.

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If you ever put this on eBay, I'll screw you.

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Disney is very legendary

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because it is private and proprietary,

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and every time you put
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makes someone want to know, you know,

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How do I open that lock?

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When something closes,

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It is usually demolished and disappears.

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But at Disney, it seems
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that once something has
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if it is no longer needed
but it costs too much money to remove it,

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it is simply left in place.

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The fact that they let things

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they stay and rot for so long,

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If your neighbor has this pile of junk

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in your backyard for years,

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You can't complain when
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They start using it as a playground.

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There are like three different types of people.

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who are interested in exploring
urban theme parks.

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There is a thread that comes from

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before the days of the internet,
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who simply love
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on an emotional level.

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Then we enter a kind of middle ground

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of people who were interested in the past,

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They were interested in history,
but they were also

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interested in money and notoriety.

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Finally, I think we have a third stream

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of people who really don't have

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some personal connection
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They see other people doing it

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and they just want to take it
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Oh my god.

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My name is Matthew St. Cyr.

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Most of you probably
I'm known as Matt Sonswa.

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The guy who sneaks in
behind the scenes at the theme parks.

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Jesus.

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Alright guys this is it
As high as I'm willing to go.

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I don't want anyone to see me up here,

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and I definitely don't want to
fall from up here.

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In high school, there were
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in my hometown.

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It was pretty cool.

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We ended up entering
Macy's from the third floor

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and going down everything
the path to the bottom,

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and literally all
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had been piled on the bottom

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of these stairs, surrounding us.

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dozens of mannequins in the dark.

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It was very creepy.

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I will never forget it.

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I realized very quickly

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that there was a whole community of people

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who went and explored abandoned places.

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So I thought, well, you know,

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if other people can win
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then maybe I can make a living from this.

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Being in these places is terrifying.

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But I want to show people things
that they normally can't see.

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Oh, there's a truck, there's a truck.

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And that feeling of,

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not knowing what will happen next

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It is simply irreplaceable.

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when you get on
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or attractions, or whatever, puts visitors

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who come to the park at risk.

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If you are not an engineer,

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you could cause a failure
mechanical or something

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just for stepping on the wrong thing.

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Oh my god.

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You know, it's dangerous.

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It's dangerous, and I think sometimes,

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lines have been crossed.

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Ooh, the plane.

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The plane is good.

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What do you mean?

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I hope you enjoyed the video.

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Comment below.

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Let me know what you think

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about the interior of Walt Disney's plane.

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Man!
Oh really?

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How do you know this?

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Where did you get this from?

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What do you mean Disney people?

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Do you have a microphone?

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What's up, YouTube?

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I'm backstage at Epcot.

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This is Cranium Command.

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The ninth main pavilion

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from Epcot Center's Future World
It is now open to the public.

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They are the wonders of life,
and Cranium Command reveals

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how the brain works taking you

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inside the mind of a 12 year old boy

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in a charming audio animatronic show.

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Part of the Wonders of Life
presented by Metropolitan Life

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now open at Epcot Center.

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Wonders of Life was
really Epcot era

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where a pavilion was not
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but a complete environment

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with different interrelated activities

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that you could enjoy for hours.

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Had a wonderful audio animatronic show

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called Cranium Command,
who followed the adventures

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of a new recruit named Buzzy.

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What's your name, recruit?

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- Buzzy, sir.
- Do you think you're ready?

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to pilot a brain, Fuzzy?

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It's Buzzy, sir.
Oh yes!

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While learning to control the human body

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of, I think,
a 10 year old boy full of adrenaline.

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Are you still not up?

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The bus will arrive any minute.

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Okay, mom.

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Ok guys, we're a little late.

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There were regularly hour-long waits.

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just to enter through the front door.

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But certainly, as the
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started to become more and more dead

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and then it closed.

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The attraction really stayed

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in a state of suspended animation.

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Cranium Command literally stood there

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with the lights off for 10 years

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until it became a kind of fashion

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for urban explorers to enter.

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How would you define urban exploration?

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Normally you walk into a place,
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you know, you take some photos,
you browse and you leave.

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Don't take anything but photos,
Don't break anything but the silence,

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Leave nothing but footprints.

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I think the abandoned places

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They simply spark people's imagination.

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There is beauty in it.

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It is basically opening a
coffin and see a place

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It hasn't been used, it's falling apart.

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that at the time served a purpose

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but it no longer works.

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People love that kind of stuff.

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The image that people have of Disney
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It's this crazy, happy place,
bright and colorful.

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I had no idea
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that were abandoned.

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The first time I entered Cranium Command,

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It was pretty fucking scary.

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When I entered,
It was all dark and I didn't know

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If someone was going to come in,

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and I'm looking at Buzzy sitting there.

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My God.

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And eventually, I made my way backstage

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and I'm climbing
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Shit!

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There's like a little desk over there.

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In fact there is like
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still there.

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Everyone said: "My God,

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you just passed
overlook the show on a reel."

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And I'm like, "Well, I documented it."

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You are welcome.

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Very good, Buzz.
It's been fun.

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Until next time.

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These incident reports
show that researchers believe

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that someone entered the backstage area

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from a removed Epcot exhibit

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and stole the clothes
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In early August, detectives discovered

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that Buzzy's cap, the bomber jacket,
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They had supposedly disappeared.

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The Orange County Sheriff's Office says

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that this is an active investigation.

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When this case really broke out,

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I was pretty new to myself.
Disney coverage,

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So I didn't know much,

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and that's what made this case

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was so interesting to me as a reporter

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and I think it made a lot of people realize

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that this type of theft was
happening for the first time.

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There is someone who is
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one of his employees
named Patrick Spikes.

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Has a reputation for
enter backstage areas

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of the theme parks and take photos

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and publish those
photos on social networks.

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In October 2018,
Patrick's account posts a photo of Buzzy

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wearing his clothes.

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And you can imagine that
It would raise suspicions, you know,

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Buzzy's clothes were missing
and there was a photo

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on Patrick's Twitter account.

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Sheriff's detectives go and
Patrick Spikes is interviewed.

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They started to ask
about Buzzy's clothes.

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Do you know something
About Buzzy?

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I said, "No, what is that?"

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They said:
"Oh, it's something from Epcot."

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And I said, "What?"

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It was like, "In Figment's?"

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You know, I was being silly.

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I said something like:
"Is it from Figment's attraction?"

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And he said, "No."

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And I said:
"Oh, I don't know anything about that."

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My name is Patrick Spikes.

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Some people know me as Backdoor Disney.

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I love to see how things work,
you know?

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I just love it
the inner workings of things.

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so i wanted
entertain people who were like me,

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and I just wanted to see
cool photos, you know?

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who are interested in this.

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So things like attractions
that have been closed,

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control rooms,
areas that are out of reach of guests,

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cast members having fun,

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really anything that caught my attention.

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Backdoor Disney was just an account

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that he shared
behind the scenes photos of things

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like an air conditioning unit,
you know, or a dumpster.

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It was like, that's cool.

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It's like, you know,

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I have accidentally wandered
behind the scenes at a Holiday Inn.

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You know, like, I get it.

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I know what it looks like, you know?

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Who cares?

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It's like the cool things
They were in the park, right?

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Those are the things I want to see.

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I don't care about Backstage.

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When Backdoor Disney
started posting on Twitter,

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I found it remarkable.

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I love seeing photos of things behind the scenes,

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and he had some good ones.

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For me it was very entertaining to watch.

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It seemed like a lot
a younger version of Hoot.

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The Backdoor Disney Twitter account

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was inspired by Hoot and Chief.

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I remember finding your videos on YouTube,

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but it was very hard to believe
that these two guys were like,

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You know, we just got off the ride.

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I remember Hoot said something

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and it was as if he
getting on that thing for the first time

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It was like being on the fucking moon,

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and it seemed like a dream to me.

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So they were a
Pretty big inspiration.

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I'm Dave Ensign aka Hoot Gibson

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in the cult Disney fan community.

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I am an artist, theme park enthusiast,

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Walt Disney fan, an adventurer.

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That's what I am.

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As a child in the 80s,
future was not optimistic.

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You know, we were all going to die

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we were always afraid
that Russia bombed us,

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and, you know, we had "Terminator."

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That was our movie about the future.

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We were all going to die,
the robots were going to kill us,

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What did we have left to expect?

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But there at Epcot Center,
They had the solutions,

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They had inspiration.

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You know, the future will be like this

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or it could be, you know,
if we get together

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and we do something.

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I was very interested in that.

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It inspired me a lot
when I was a little boy.

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That's why I started to decide

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what could I do
theme park stuff for a living.

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Some of the first people

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that they began to get involved
behind the scenes in the parks

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They are the members of the cast,
and many of those people

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then he took his friends behind the scenes

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and that's how I got involved.

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I actually went to art school with Dave,

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and he introduced me to
Ed Barlow, his friend,

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and so we went to the parks a lot,

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like throughout the 90s.

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Oh man, my friend Ed Barlow.

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When I met Ed Barlow,

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We both work for Disney World.

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You know, Ed and I both,

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we didn't have very good childhoods

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and go to work at Disney
It was the only thing we thought about

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because we had imagined it
Like a Shangri-La, man.

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We were going to leave high school

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and the fucking bullies, and the stupid things,

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and we were going to go
to work at the Magic Kingdom

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where we would spend our days
with like-minded people,

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and when we arrived we realized

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which was basically just high school
somewhere else.

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It was just a giant mess, you know?

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Nobody gave a damn about the park,

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or the story, or something like that.

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The damn kids today have no respect.

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Part of the danger of
go somewhere all the time

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is that you become very familiar with it,

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and that familiarity breeds contempt.

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You start to get bored of
the normal experience

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and then you start to think,
Well, what else can I do?

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So you start doing things

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how to go to bed when
You are in Peter Pan,

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or once on Spaceship Earth
there was a boy's bedroom

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and there was a stack of comics

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in the bottom corner.

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So I bought two copies of Playboy

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and just when we get to the right area,

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I just took it out
and I threw it,

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and it was there
for like two or three months.

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So that's when we started
to clown around, you know?

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keeping that safety bar high enough

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to be able to jump and run

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and have your friends laugh at you.

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You know, that kind of thing.

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you could die
but you don't care at that age.

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And that's how we put our fingers in

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in the behind-the-scenes exploration.

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Ed had absolutely no fear.

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Anything he could get into.

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Wow, I got to
the top of Hall of Presidents

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and was in the rafters
watching the show.

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Do you want to go?

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Yes, we can go up there.

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Do these things.

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Sometimes Dave just tried doors

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and I would see if something would open.

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It's like once
We were walking through Disney MGM

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and opened a door,

351
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and we were looking
the "Aliens" scene.

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It is always
that urban legend circulating

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about how tight everything is there.

354
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You know, there are cameras watching you

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no matter where you go.

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Today it could be true,
but back then, nothing.

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There was nothing there.

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I think maybe when they started

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to bring the cameras with them,

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evolved from something
that was just for fun,

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to something more serious
mission to document things

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that were about to close.

363
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Disney really likes to say
that theme parks are not a museum.

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If you say a theme park is not a museum,

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you are also implying that
Thematic attractions are not art,

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and for me and for many other people

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We are fans of theme parks,
we feel it is an art form

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and these are things
that should be preserved,

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and that's how dave and ed felt

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about an attraction in Future World
called Horizons.

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horizons for me
It was the main attraction at Epcot.

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Basically a giant house of
the future with attraction vehicles

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that take you through

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these different visions of the future life,

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and it was just this big,
beautiful and slow love letter

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to the way Disney used to do things.

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It was the last great
Disney's vision of the future

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what we would see

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We discovered that Horizons
It was definitely going to close

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so I started doing that
list of things to see

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and things to document.

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So the next time we came back,

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it occurred to us that we were
watching and it's like,

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What exactly is stopping us?
get out of here?

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We start waving our arms
so, because we think

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that maybe there was a light beam sensor
or something like that,

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and then suddenly
Ed just says, “Fuck it.”

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He just got out of the car.

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And it's like watching Neil Armstrong

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00:19:04,726 --> 00:19:06,962
get out of the spaceship, you know?

391
00:19:07,062 --> 00:19:09,673
There's Ed, he's on the scene.

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I was right behind him and we thought,

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This is the coolest thing ever.

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At that moment we realized

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that we could get out of the attraction vehicle.

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You had this amount of time
to climb the stairs

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and take a photo of
that lady in the bathtub,

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run down,
rise again quickly.

399
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We were hoping to do this.

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before the cast members chased us,
you know?

401
00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:36,050
But for God's sake,
We were going to get that damn photo.

402
00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:40,829
Ed wanted to run up
and have a photo taken

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00:19:40,929 --> 00:19:42,122
in the space shuttle scene.

404
00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:45,459
So there's that ramp going up,
He runs down that plywood,

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00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:47,544
boom, boom, boom, boom.

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It sounded like a fucking elephant.
passing by there.

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00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:52,674
It's like, man, come on.

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00:19:52,774 --> 00:19:54,652
After that, we kept doing it.

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00:19:55,903 --> 00:19:57,721
One day Dave came to me and said:

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"We discovered a way
that we can go out

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and spend time on stage.

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00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,519
Would you like to do it?"

413
00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:06,480
Well, yeah, who wouldn't like to do that?

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00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:08,315
One of the things we wanted to do

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00:20:08,415 --> 00:20:09,566
It was just learning about things.

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00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:11,235
How do audio animatronics work?

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00:20:11,335 --> 00:20:12,194
How do you set things up?

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00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:14,404
And really the only way
that you can find out that

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It's seeing it first hand.

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00:20:23,263 --> 00:20:26,708
People need to know that
Horizons was very dangerous,

421
00:20:26,808 --> 00:20:29,294
and what we were doing was pretty stupid.

422
00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:31,213
I once tripped over a wooden plank

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00:20:31,313 --> 00:20:33,841
and I fell looking over this edge

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00:20:33,941 --> 00:20:35,818
that overlooked the cement floor.

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00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:44,560
That would have been my death right there.

426
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:47,229
That's probably how
three stories high.

427
00:20:47,329 --> 00:20:49,523
You know, Ed, the top of
his head was all scratched up

428
00:20:49,623 --> 00:20:52,818
with scars and shit from cutting
with all kinds of things.

429
00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:54,987
Once he gets up and
there are some big screws

430
00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:55,988
coming out of the roof.

431
00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:58,884
They hit him right in the fucking head.
He's bleeding.

432
00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:02,536
Other guys were flirting,

433
00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:06,331
other guys were walking
building your future.

434
00:21:06,431 --> 00:21:09,918
Are our nerd heads down on
the earth in a fucking attraction

435
00:21:10,018 --> 00:21:12,129
that's about to be demolished, you know?

436
00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:13,797
Many times we looked at ourselves,

437
00:21:13,897 --> 00:21:16,818
We started laughing like,
what the hell are we doing?

438
00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:19,696
Why are we doing this?

439
00:21:19,903 --> 00:21:22,931
What Hoot and Chief did
of the documentation,

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00:21:23,031 --> 00:21:25,142
It is unprecedented.

441
00:21:25,242 --> 00:21:29,330
And they ended up taking
so many photos and videos.

442
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,524
We have such deep knowledge
of that attraction now

443
00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:35,777
that we would not have had
if they hadn't done that.

444
00:21:35,877 --> 00:21:38,071
When I looked at the list, we were done.

445
00:21:38,171 --> 00:21:39,781
We had just done it all.

446
00:21:39,881 --> 00:21:41,950
We felt like we had achieved our goal.

447
00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:43,469
Bye bye.
Have a good night.

448
00:21:44,594 --> 00:21:47,331
So Horizons closed and that was it.

449
00:21:47,431 --> 00:21:49,475
Next thing you know, it was demolished.

450
00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:58,133
We started Mesa Verde Times in 2009.

451
00:21:58,233 --> 00:22:00,677
I had the idea to share the footage,

452
00:22:00,777 --> 00:22:03,180
and blogs were something important
suddenly

453
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,933
and it fit very well into that format.

454
00:22:06,033 --> 00:22:07,851
Mesa Verde was the desert scene.

455
00:22:07,951 --> 00:22:11,164
As always it was our favorite,
I just called it that.

456
00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:14,608
So I started reviewing the footage

457
00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:16,985
and each post is like a building block

458
00:22:17,085 --> 00:22:20,822
to reunite the band,
that kind of thing.

459
00:22:20,922 --> 00:22:23,033
We do not think that anyone
he wouldn't give a shit.

460
00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:24,034
I really don't.

461
00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:26,370
And then suddenly, little by little,
all these people start to appear,

462
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:27,704
and suddenly it's a big

463
00:22:27,804 --> 00:22:30,241
problem, you know?
When I first saw

464
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,502
Mesa Verde Times, I thought,
oh my god, there's another one

465
00:22:33,602 --> 00:22:35,420
people like me out there.
I'm not totally alone, I'm not crazy.

466
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,090
I mean, I'm crazy, but like,

467
00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:41,468
at least there are other people
She's crazy like me out there.

468
00:22:41,568 --> 00:22:43,254
At that time, I was writing a book

469
00:22:44,321 --> 00:22:45,889
called "The Dark Side of Disney",

470
00:22:45,989 --> 00:22:47,641
it was a daring book

471
00:22:47,741 --> 00:22:50,769
it was a daring book
Adult Guide to Walt Disney World.

472
00:22:50,869 --> 00:22:53,939
I wanted to include a section
about disney urban explorers

473
00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:56,858
and Dave was generous enough
to let me interview him.

474
00:22:56,958 --> 00:22:58,694
The book ended up selling very well.

475
00:22:58,794 --> 00:23:00,696
So I think it helped.
for both of us to make ourselves known

476
00:23:00,796 --> 00:23:02,364
to a much wider audience

477
00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:04,533
And I think this helped

478
00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:09,639
as spiritual inspiration for
many of the urban explorers

479
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,226
and rule breakers who came after.

480
00:23:14,017 --> 00:23:16,378
It's so strange that someone else
pointed a camera at me.

481
00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:17,212
I know!

482
00:23:17,312 --> 00:23:18,046
Very strange.

483
00:23:18,146 --> 00:23:19,965
Definitely one of my inspirations,

484
00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:22,009
someone who did this
He used to be Adam the Woo.

485
00:23:22,109 --> 00:23:23,343
Adam the Woo.

486
00:23:23,443 --> 00:23:24,177
Adam the Woo.

487
00:23:24,277 --> 00:23:25,313
Adam the Woo.

488
00:23:26,988 --> 00:23:28,598
Who is Adam the Woo?

489
00:23:28,698 --> 00:23:29,599
That's a good question.

490
00:23:29,699 --> 00:23:31,351
The first answer I would like to give

491
00:23:31,451 --> 00:23:32,561
It would be this guy here,

492
00:23:32,661 --> 00:23:37,399
Adam The Woo is a titan
of theme park exploration.

493
00:23:37,499 --> 00:23:40,736
I think the first Disney video
what I saw of him

494
00:23:40,836 --> 00:23:43,840
It was River Country,
I think that's what it was called.

495
00:23:45,507 --> 00:23:46,783
Here we are in River Country.

496
00:23:46,883 --> 00:23:48,410
All the time we were
here snooping,

497
00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:50,972
all we heard were banjos
playing in the background.

498
00:23:51,805 --> 00:23:53,832
Still with the music playing.

499
00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:54,666
There's no one here.

500
00:23:54,766 --> 00:23:56,960
At one point,
I had made a documentary about him.

501
00:23:57,060 --> 00:23:58,879
My friends and I,
We drove to Florida,

502
00:23:58,979 --> 00:24:01,506
We met him at this abandoned drag strip.

503
00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:03,467
I have always been very curious in my life

504
00:24:03,567 --> 00:24:05,093
and when making videos,

505
00:24:05,193 --> 00:24:06,345
And there were things I wanted to see,

506
00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:07,554
attractions that had closed,

507
00:24:07,654 --> 00:24:09,389
attractions that no longer existed.

508
00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:11,266
My curiosity got the better of me

509
00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:13,035
and I wanted to go see him.

510
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:15,020
It's Leonard Kinsey!

511
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,064
Adam's attitude toward
backstage at that time

512
00:24:17,164 --> 00:24:17,898
It was like mine.

513
00:24:17,998 --> 00:24:19,524
I think he was a big Disney fan,

514
00:24:19,624 --> 00:24:23,445
and I just wanted to see things
that no one else had seen.

515
00:24:23,545 --> 00:24:25,530
When I first noticed him,

516
00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:27,407
I was really pushing the limits.

517
00:24:27,507 --> 00:24:29,785
Not just coming in and
exploring these places,

518
00:24:29,885 --> 00:24:33,038
but doing of himself
and his personality

519
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:33,997
the center of everything.

520
00:24:34,097 --> 00:24:36,792
It is no longer about
"look at this cool place I went to",

521
00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:39,920
but "look at me in this
cool place I'm in."

522
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:42,964
But the guy has more than half
million subscribers on YouTube,

523
00:24:43,064 --> 00:24:46,093
and basically popularized
Disney vlogging culture,

524
00:24:46,193 --> 00:24:48,428
So clearly I was doing something,

525
00:24:48,528 --> 00:24:50,740
and many imitators came after him.

526
00:24:51,656 --> 00:24:53,141
When I created the Twitter account,

527
00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:54,559
It wasn't long before, you know,

528
00:24:54,659 --> 00:24:55,727
at least one person saw it

529
00:24:55,827 --> 00:24:57,062
and said, they will retweet it,

530
00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:58,772
and suddenly, like
in about six months,

531
00:24:58,872 --> 00:25:01,525
I got 20,000 followers, more or less,

532
00:25:01,625 --> 00:25:03,652
and at some point people
he sent me photos

533
00:25:03,752 --> 00:25:05,028
of places I haven't even been to.

534
00:25:05,128 --> 00:25:06,696
You know, like, I work on Peter Pan.

535
00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:08,532
You know, here it is like this
with the lights on.

536
00:25:08,632 --> 00:25:10,450
Like some kind of small
community of these people

537
00:25:10,550 --> 00:25:12,702
interested in seeing these things.

538
00:25:12,802 --> 00:25:15,747
Hey, high five!
Good.

539
00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:19,251
They have so many managers
and nobody knows who you are,

540
00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:20,752
and you only put on a label with your name,

541
00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:23,213
and you can go anywhere and do anything.

542
00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:25,340
I entered Pirates one
night with someone else,

543
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,758
And there were some maintenance guys.

544
00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:27,592
A guy approaches.

545
00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:29,261
I shook his hand, I told him:
"Hello, I'm Patrick."

546
00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:30,345
You know, whatever.

547
00:25:30,445 --> 00:25:32,180
And my friend, it's white
like hell and we only have

548
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,349
so many extra name tags, and he says:

549
00:25:34,449 --> 00:25:36,017
"Hello, I'm José."

550
00:25:36,117 --> 00:25:38,520
I see him physically look
down and read your label

551
00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,480
to see which
It's his name, you know?

552
00:25:40,580 --> 00:25:42,149
And I'm like, "Oh, what's up?

553
00:25:42,249 --> 00:25:42,983
We are security.

554
00:25:43,083 --> 00:25:44,401
We're just, you know, taking a look

555
00:25:44,501 --> 00:25:45,902
to some of the things in line, you know?"

556
00:25:46,002 --> 00:25:47,154
And they say, “Oh, yeah, great.

557
00:25:47,254 --> 00:25:49,281
Like, well, feel free to do whatever you want.

558
00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:50,449
Do you want to get on the pirate ship?"

559
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:52,117
You know, so we go up
and he starts like,

560
00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:54,536
to disarm this animatronic
like the captain of the ship

561
00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:56,455
and says, "Oh yeah,
"Let me show you how this works."

562
00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:58,457
You know, honestly, that was
one of the most surreal moments

563
00:25:58,557 --> 00:25:59,374
of my entire life until now

564
00:25:59,474 --> 00:26:00,917
It's like getting on the pirate ship

565
00:26:01,017 --> 00:26:02,252
and look at everything

566
00:26:02,352 --> 00:26:03,587
what you've been looking at all your,

567
00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:04,796
childhood growing up.

568
00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:06,798
And I was like,
I'm really over the damn moon now.

569
00:26:06,898 --> 00:26:07,975
Really.

570
00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:15,098
- Hello.
- Hello.

571
00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:16,600
- How are you?
- Hello. Good.

572
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:17,726
And you?

573
00:26:17,826 --> 00:26:20,395
Well, are you supposed to be up here?

574
00:26:20,495 --> 00:26:21,605
You tell me.

575
00:26:21,705 --> 00:26:22,564
No, you shouldn't.

576
00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:23,899
- Can we go?
- Yes, ma'am.

577
00:26:23,999 --> 00:26:25,001
Good.

578
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:33,533
Probably when I found out
from Discovery Island.

579
00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:36,453
Deep inside Disney World
lies an entire theme park

580
00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:38,371
being slowly reclaimed by nature.

581
00:26:38,471 --> 00:26:39,873
When Disney bought the property,

582
00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:41,458
There were elaborate plans.

583
00:26:41,558 --> 00:26:42,959
Unfortunately, that didn't happen,

584
00:26:43,059 --> 00:26:44,961
So they did the next best thing,

585
00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:48,632
which was to turn it into the
Cheapest attraction possible.

586
00:26:48,732 --> 00:26:51,176
Native birds and some turtles and things.

587
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:54,054
Basically, they set up a small
mini ecological habitat,

588
00:26:54,154 --> 00:26:55,472
and I think many of us

589
00:26:55,572 --> 00:26:57,599
that we went to Discovery
Island when it was open

590
00:26:57,699 --> 00:27:00,411
we were curious about,
What happened to that place?

591
00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:03,522
People said,
You can't go there, it's impossible.

592
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,398
Their security is very bad.

593
00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:08,026
And I just thought,
is it really that difficult

594
00:27:08,126 --> 00:27:09,486
get to this island?

595
00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:10,445
What's up, YouTube?

596
00:27:10,545 --> 00:27:12,572
My name is Matt Sonswa.

597
00:27:12,672 --> 00:27:15,325
I'm here at Disney's Discovery Island.

598
00:27:15,425 --> 00:27:19,746
It was practically a disaster.
but we did it.

599
00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:21,641
Oh my God!

600
00:27:25,852 --> 00:27:27,355
That was terrible.

601
00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:37,706
So this is where the main dock used to be.

602
00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:42,787
Your tickets would be collected
right there, on that podium.

603
00:27:51,961 --> 00:27:54,864
Bird poop everywhere.
Damn.

604
00:27:54,964 --> 00:27:57,426
Getting ready to go out
from here, brother.

605
00:28:04,182 --> 00:28:06,376
Are you tired of having fun yet, Matt?

606
00:28:06,476 --> 00:28:09,105
No, actually, no.

607
00:28:24,786 --> 00:28:26,813
Oh man, it smells bad in here, bro.

608
00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:29,649
We don't want to be here without masks.

609
00:28:29,749 --> 00:28:31,585
What the hell is that?

610
00:28:33,336 --> 00:28:35,005
What's in that bag?

611
00:28:43,096 --> 00:28:44,131
Let's see.

612
00:28:51,683 --> 00:28:52,723
Are you OK?

613
00:28:54,006 --> 00:28:55,008
Oh man.

614
00:28:55,108 --> 00:28:57,093
Oh yeah, we have to get out of here.

615
00:28:57,193 --> 00:28:59,638
This is not normal content creation.

616
00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:02,307
Every time I want to go out
to make a video,

617
00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:05,435
I risk my life, I risk my freedom.

618
00:29:05,535 --> 00:29:07,562
It's very, very dangerous.

619
00:29:07,662 --> 00:29:09,356
It is very illegal.

620
00:29:09,906 --> 00:29:11,292
You shouldn't do it.

621
00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,110
If you like this video,
and you want to see more like this,

622
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:16,964
Click the subscribe button.

623
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:20,116
I uploaded Discovery Island to YouTube

624
00:29:20,216 --> 00:29:25,080
and some kind of who knows
where did you make a video,

625
00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:27,290
and he had a huge operation planned.

626
00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:28,958
Everyone knows that Discovery Island

627
00:29:29,058 --> 00:29:31,878
It was a private laboratory
for the whims of Walt Disney.

628
00:29:31,978 --> 00:29:34,547
What secrets are
hiding and protecting?

629
00:29:34,647 --> 00:29:35,799
Up to you.

630
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:38,301
Basically saying that I
I inspired him to do this.

631
00:29:38,401 --> 00:29:39,636
Whatever you're about to do,

632
00:29:39,736 --> 00:29:41,346
I don't know what he's going to do.

633
00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:42,430
I always wanted to go.

634
00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:44,808
So I looked it up on the internet.

635
00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:47,060
and I watched Sonswa's video.

636
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,812
I watched like five minutes.

637
00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:49,646
He is talking about

638
00:29:49,746 --> 00:29:52,357
a crazy Operation Mouse Trap,

639
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:55,443
and basically hinted
that I had plans

640
00:29:55,543 --> 00:29:58,530
to establish a camp within Disney.

641
00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:01,241
I go to Disney
Discovery Island next week,

642
00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:03,993
and always prepare for your worst day.

643
00:30:04,093 --> 00:30:06,162
Like and subscribe, motherfuckers.

644
00:30:06,262 --> 00:30:08,498
And it sounded really worrying.

645
00:30:08,598 --> 00:30:11,042
because he didn't give details
about what it was about.

646
00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:12,645
Here I am, friends.

647
00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:15,231
Discovery Island.

648
00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:17,858
Let's give it.

649
00:30:19,442 --> 00:30:22,029
It hasn't been easy at all
task to enter here.

650
00:30:23,071 --> 00:30:24,615
I can promise you.

651
00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:27,809
I risk my life for this for you

652
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:29,745
so you guys can see cool stuff.

653
00:30:37,335 --> 00:30:38,528
This is like torture,

654
00:30:38,628 --> 00:30:41,048
where the torture chamber
It starts right here.

655
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:43,950
Look at this damn thing.

656
00:30:44,050 --> 00:30:47,579
Yes, Disney World was
doing weird things, people.

657
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,432
It doesn't surprise me that
They do not want this information to be leaked.

658
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,706
Oh great, I'm on a hunting camera.

659
00:30:55,436 --> 00:30:56,963
It's not good.

660
00:30:57,063 --> 00:30:57,797
In a hunting camera.

661
00:30:57,897 --> 00:31:01,134
It's time to get out of here
very soon after that.

662
00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:03,261
Hello,
I'm Lucy from Walt Disney World Security.

663
00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:07,056
I have a researcher
applying for county assistance

664
00:31:07,156 --> 00:31:09,309
in response to Discovery Island.

665
00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:11,436
What is the situation, ma'am?

666
00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:13,980
Sighting of a person in an area

667
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,316
which is out of bounds.

668
00:31:16,416 --> 00:31:18,227
These bastards are not playing.

669
00:31:21,546 --> 00:31:23,007
Shit!

670
00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:28,453
The ultimate explorer.

671
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,163
I will never give up.

672
00:31:30,263 --> 00:31:31,122
With weapons drawn,

673
00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:34,501
the agents begin to register
the ruined buildings of the island

674
00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:36,920
trying to find the intruder.

675
00:31:39,564 --> 00:31:42,675
They are talking to me.

676
00:31:42,775 --> 00:31:43,551
They are talking to me.

677
00:31:43,651 --> 00:31:45,279
The island is surrounded, he said.

678
00:31:46,237 --> 00:31:49,849
I can barely talk right now.
I'm so tired,

679
00:31:49,949 --> 00:31:51,976
but I'm not going to give up.

680
00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:53,394
They'll never catch me.

681
00:31:53,494 --> 00:31:55,522
I feel like there will always be
someone

682
00:31:55,622 --> 00:31:57,565
let him see it and
will try to overcome it,

683
00:31:57,665 --> 00:31:58,775
and will try to overcome it,

684
00:31:58,875 --> 00:32:00,652
and they will say,
well, that person did this,

685
00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:02,111
so what can i do?

686
00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:03,321
Ok, just to give you an idea.

687
00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:04,781
how this is going to go.
As soon as you get off the boat,

688
00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:05,865
I will search you
looking for weapons to make sure

689
00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:07,142
that you're not armed, okay?

690
00:32:08,843 --> 00:32:11,621
Well, okay,
well, sometimes people lie to me, so.

691
00:32:11,721 --> 00:32:14,707
Okay, go ahead and intertwine.
hands on your head.

692
00:32:14,807 --> 00:32:15,917
There it is.

693
00:32:16,017 --> 00:32:17,293
Well, Richard, unfortunately,
you will be

694
00:32:17,393 --> 00:32:19,313
arrested for breaking and entering, okay?

695
00:32:21,022 --> 00:32:22,691
Hello.
How are you?

696
00:32:30,109 --> 00:32:31,158
Yes.

697
00:32:53,262 --> 00:32:55,665
New information about
a disney world explorer

698
00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:57,709
which we told you about in November.

699
00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,962
We find out that it is now
banned for life from the park.

700
00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,798
Adam The Woo has developed
an online audience

701
00:33:03,898 --> 00:33:05,466
after posting videos of himself

702
00:33:05,566 --> 00:33:08,094
sneaking into backstage areas
from Walt Disney World

703
00:33:08,194 --> 00:33:09,804
that are out of reach of the public.

704
00:33:09,904 --> 00:33:13,308
It's not very smart
share a behind the scenes video

705
00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:14,267
and then tell everyone, hey,

706
00:33:14,367 --> 00:33:15,894
I'm going to Disney MGM tomorrow.

707
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:17,061
Does anyone want to come with me?

708
00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:19,063
And they arrest you.
It's stupid.

709
00:33:19,163 --> 00:33:20,857
You announce that you are going to do it,

710
00:33:20,957 --> 00:33:23,443
and then you do it and they catch you.

711
00:33:23,543 --> 00:33:24,444
Welcome everyone.

712
00:33:24,544 --> 00:33:25,862
Adam the Woo here.

713
00:33:25,962 --> 00:33:30,199
Archive this vlog-blog under the category

714
00:33:30,299 --> 00:33:32,660
"Adam The Woo has seen better days".

715
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,788
That's a trespassing warning right there.

716
00:33:35,888 --> 00:33:40,793
I think Disney's era of urban exploration

717
00:33:40,893 --> 00:33:41,920
it's over.

718
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:44,464
Adam and Nomius were banned for life,

719
00:33:44,564 --> 00:33:47,008
so that's not cool,

720
00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:50,303
and we were all in that Fox interview

721
00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:52,013
and that wasn't great either.

722
00:33:52,113 --> 00:33:52,889
It's the video

723
00:33:52,989 --> 00:33:55,367
that Disney probably doesn't want you to see.

724
00:33:57,660 --> 00:33:59,520
Sometimes I think I'm crazy for doing it.

725
00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:02,273
A crazy obsession that drives some Disney fans

726
00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:05,669
to explore parts of the park
out of reach of the public.

727
00:34:08,337 --> 00:34:09,822
It is illegal, dangerous,

728
00:34:09,922 --> 00:34:11,491
and everything is recorded.

729
00:34:11,591 --> 00:34:13,618
That was really, that was dumb.

730
00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,203
Just silly.

731
00:34:15,303 --> 00:34:17,622
What the hell was I thinking?

732
00:34:17,722 --> 00:34:19,248
During the last 16 years,

733
00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:21,542
a man who uses
pseudonym Leonard Kinsey

734
00:34:21,642 --> 00:34:23,419
created his own entertainment.

735
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,546
He wrote a book called
"The dark side of Disney."

736
00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:26,923
A guide full of debauchery

737
00:34:27,023 --> 00:34:29,258
which sold more than 30,000 copies

738
00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:31,970
highlighting your experiences
hanging around the park.

739
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:34,430
Is it worth the risk?

740
00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:35,306
For me, yes.

741
00:34:35,406 --> 00:34:37,183
Even if your love for Disney

742
00:34:37,283 --> 00:34:39,394
It takes them places they shouldn't.

743
00:34:39,494 --> 00:34:41,246
When are they going to stop?

744
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:45,817
In a statement,

745
00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,068
a spokesperson tells us:

746
00:34:47,168 --> 00:34:50,029
"The behind-the-scenes areas are usually
They are out of reach of guests.

747
00:34:50,129 --> 00:34:51,406
As a private owner,

748
00:34:51,506 --> 00:34:54,075
we can file a trespass warning
against any guest

749
00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,703
that enters deliberately
in an unauthorized area.

750
00:34:56,803 --> 00:34:59,014
“Repeat offenders may be arrested.”

751
00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:02,834
That's all.

752
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,836
Not many people have one of these.

753
00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:07,797
When you receive that trespass notification,
They ban you for life.

754
00:35:07,897 --> 00:35:09,173
Well the prosecutors say

755
00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:12,051
that this man sneaked into closed attractions
from the theme park

756
00:35:12,151 --> 00:35:15,555
and then posted videos of
his illegal adventures

757
00:35:15,655 --> 00:35:17,098
on social networks.

758
00:35:17,198 --> 00:35:18,641
They are coming.

759
00:35:18,741 --> 00:35:19,851
This video shows men

760
00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:21,978
escaping Volcano Bay
climbing a fence

761
00:35:22,078 --> 00:35:23,688
towards his escape vehicle.

762
00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:26,399
Oh my god, Darren, time to go.

763
00:35:26,499 --> 00:35:28,443
Saint Cyr claims that these videos

764
00:35:28,543 --> 00:35:30,361
They actually help the theme parks.

765
00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:32,155
"One of the most gratifying things for me

766
00:35:32,255 --> 00:35:35,241
is knowing that I have reinforced security",
he told News 6.

767
00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:38,244
It comes with what I chose.

768
00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:40,872
Do you know what I mean?
I chose not to

769
00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,207
never go there again in my life

770
00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:44,959
to be able to show people

771
00:35:45,059 --> 00:35:46,954
things they normally can't see.

772
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:52,550
I guess I won't be able to ride
Seven Dwarfs Mine Train

773
00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:54,719
when I want to have fun.

774
00:35:54,819 --> 00:35:58,139
They banned me, which technically

775
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,642
It means they ban you for life,
and the truth is that

776
00:36:01,742 --> 00:36:03,019
I had been there every day of my life.

777
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,521
like five days a week
over the last few years, and honestly,

778
00:36:05,621 --> 00:36:07,148
I was sick of it.

779
00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:09,108
There is a term called
"pixie dusty", you understand?

780
00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:11,986
And Disney is life for these people.

781
00:36:12,086 --> 00:36:13,696
So a "pixie dusty" is a person

782
00:36:13,796 --> 00:36:16,032
who sees Disney as perfect, right?

783
00:36:16,132 --> 00:36:17,867
They can do no wrong, Disney magic,

784
00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:18,701
and this and that.

785
00:36:18,801 --> 00:36:20,828
They're just people who really believe

786
00:36:20,928 --> 00:36:24,040
in everything Disney sells 100%.

787
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:26,125
These people say, oh,
It would literally kill me.

788
00:36:26,225 --> 00:36:27,835
It is literally
A comment on a YouTube video said:

789
00:36:27,935 --> 00:36:29,128
"I would kill myself if I were you

790
00:36:29,228 --> 00:36:31,881
because if you couldn't anymore
go to Disney."

791
00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:32,715
And I say, really?

792
00:36:32,815 --> 00:36:34,675
The worst thing that
Does it occur to you what could happen?

793
00:36:34,775 --> 00:36:38,238
in all your life
Are you banned from Disney World?

794
00:36:39,405 --> 00:36:42,016
I mean,
It's a little pathetic, honestly.

795
00:36:42,116 --> 00:36:43,684
Ed was a "pixie dusty".

796
00:36:43,784 --> 00:36:45,770
He liked everything Disney.

797
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:49,273
I didn't want anything
ruin that vision in your own head

798
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:52,401
that everything at Disney is always perfect,
you know?

799
00:36:52,501 --> 00:36:56,447
He collected Piglet toys
and he loved all that cheesy shit.

800
00:36:56,547 --> 00:37:00,201
you would never imagine
May this hero of behind-the-scenes exploration

801
00:37:00,301 --> 00:37:03,788
It would be like a little kid or something.

802
00:37:03,888 --> 00:37:04,872
I don't know.

803
00:37:04,972 --> 00:37:05,706
What do we have here?

804
00:37:05,806 --> 00:37:06,666
This is from the kitchen

805
00:37:06,766 --> 00:37:08,751
with spilled milk and shit.

806
00:37:08,851 --> 00:37:10,128
How much are those carrots?

807
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:12,922
Like $800 or some crazy shit like that?

808
00:37:13,022 --> 00:37:15,499
If you ever put this on eBay,
I'm going to beat you up.

809
00:37:16,796 --> 00:37:18,427
I was once in Typhoon Lagoon.

810
00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:21,514
A guy taps him on the shoulder and says:

811
00:37:21,704 --> 00:37:23,391
"I don't want to be weird or anything.

812
00:37:23,491 --> 00:37:24,934
I am a dermatologist.

813
00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:28,020
That thing on your back needs
be reviewed right now."

814
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,899
And I had skin cancer and it progressed quickly.

815
00:37:31,999 --> 00:37:34,610
They started injecting him with morphine.

816
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:37,905
There was no way I was going to
get out of this, you know?

817
00:37:38,005 --> 00:37:40,324
And one night his mother calls me.

818
00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:42,869
I was scheduled for surgery
the next day in your brain

819
00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:44,912
and she called me and said:

820
00:37:45,012 --> 00:37:46,330
"Something strange is happening, Dave.

821
00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:47,790
"He's having this clarity."

822
00:37:47,890 --> 00:37:51,043
And man,
We had a heart-to-heart talk, friend,

823
00:37:51,143 --> 00:37:52,670
about everything that

824
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:54,130
It could have been wrong, you know?

825
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:58,735
And he asked me to put his
ashes at the Magic Kingdom.

826
00:38:00,695 --> 00:38:02,680
Know? How fucked up is that?

827
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:06,934
You're standing there talking
with this man, you know?

828
00:38:07,034 --> 00:38:09,770
And you're talking about

829
00:38:09,870 --> 00:38:12,273
where are you going to put
his ashes, for the love of God.

830
00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:14,817
You know, the guy is your best friend.

831
00:38:14,917 --> 00:38:17,695
It was fucked up, but that was it.

832
00:38:17,795 --> 00:38:21,008
The next day he died in
surgery and gone,

833
00:38:21,882 --> 00:38:22,950
and that was fucked up.

834
00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:24,177
That was rough.

835
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:27,889
Here comes my favorite part.

836
00:38:30,057 --> 00:38:33,419
Without stopping, without stopping.

837
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:37,524
Welcome to our property,
But by God, you better obey.

838
00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:42,612
- Hello. Welcome.
- Hello.

839
00:38:43,362 --> 00:38:44,347
First of all, I didn't know

840
00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:47,183
if they had banned me from
Disney or not at that time.

841
00:38:47,283 --> 00:38:49,477
I hadn't gone.
So, you know,

842
00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:52,480
I didn't know what was going to happen.

843
00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:54,482
Only cash accepted today, folks.

844
00:38:54,582 --> 00:38:56,150
And we bought the tickets in cash,

845
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,277
and I didn't want to show my ID at all.

846
00:38:58,377 --> 00:39:00,071
And as soon as we walk in,

847
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:02,049
I bought a drink at Coke Corner.

848
00:39:03,424 --> 00:39:06,845
Of course, this is where
I met Ed 29 years ago.

849
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:11,266
Anyway, here we are at Coke Corner.

850
00:39:12,641 --> 00:39:17,606
I have the remains of my best
friend tied in my pants,

851
00:39:18,689 --> 00:39:21,759
and I'm about to change them
to this glass of drink.

852
00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:23,886
I went to the bathroom,
I threw the Coke,

853
00:39:23,986 --> 00:39:26,264
I cleaned it well,
I put the ashes there.

854
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,683
So let's walk
towards the enchanted forest,

855
00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:31,203
and a boy stops us and says,

856
00:39:32,078 --> 00:39:33,604
"Do you take a photo of me

857
00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:35,040
in front of the castle?"

858
00:39:36,165 --> 00:39:38,150
I said, "Actually, yes they can."

859
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:40,653
He says, "Lord, can you stop
your drink right there."

860
00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:43,247
I tell him, "No, I'm going
and hold this drink."

861
00:39:44,423 --> 00:39:45,967
- Very good, goodbye.
- Bye bye.

862
00:40:12,409 --> 00:40:14,788
Well, I did it.

863
00:40:15,871 --> 00:40:18,417
Although I didn't think I would wear
so bad for that.

864
00:40:23,003 --> 00:40:27,426
But that's where he
I wanted to be, so it's done.

865
00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:30,887
And we just got on
a couple of attractions and we were off.

866
00:40:32,685 --> 00:40:34,016
And that was it.

867
00:40:36,183 --> 00:40:38,294
Here we are waiting for the gap.

868
00:40:38,394 --> 00:40:39,896
Yes, this is hell week.

869
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:42,840
- The brave hollow.
- This is the worst part

870
00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:44,860
of the whole experience.

871
00:40:46,026 --> 00:40:50,323
So, after Ed died,
many things became unimportant.

872
00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:52,600
I still don't see the blog

873
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,186
because I can't finish it.

874
00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:57,104
It's not that I want to forget everything,

875
00:40:57,204 --> 00:41:00,107
It's just a little painful.

876
00:41:00,207 --> 00:41:03,110
I discovered that I totally lost interest

877
00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:04,236
at Walt Disney World.

878
00:41:04,336 --> 00:41:06,906
I just don't care anymore
without him around.

879
00:41:07,006 --> 00:41:09,700
So yes,
I think I'm done there,

880
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,180
and I'm done being
Hoot Gibson for a while.

881
00:41:22,688 --> 00:41:24,340
So I actually haven't seen this yet.

882
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,625
and I'm very excited.

883
00:41:29,361 --> 00:41:29,804
¿Bill?

884
00:41:29,904 --> 00:41:30,554
Yeah.

885
00:41:30,654 --> 00:41:31,097
Patrick.

886
00:41:31,197 --> 00:41:32,223
How are you, Patrick?

887
00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:34,167
- I'm fine.
- Pleased to meet you.

888
00:41:36,577 --> 00:41:40,398
Here is the check.
Here's my license.

889
00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:41,524
Is that all?

890
00:41:41,624 --> 00:41:42,358
- Yeah.
- Alright.

891
00:41:42,458 --> 00:41:43,317
So now it's officially mine.

892
00:41:43,417 --> 00:41:44,652
It's yours.

893
00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:45,787
Alright.

894
00:41:46,587 --> 00:41:48,590
She has to take your photo.

895
00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:53,378
What a time!

896
00:42:02,988 --> 00:42:04,405
Pretty cool photoshoot, right?

897
00:42:05,481 --> 00:42:07,049
[ERROR] So at some point when I was a teenager,

898
00:42:07,149 --> 00:42:09,844
[ERROR] I was on eBay and I saw
lots of disney stuff

899
00:42:09,944 --> 00:42:12,513
like animatronic hands
or parts and I was like,

900
00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:14,699
Holy shit, can you own these things?

901
00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:21,480
When you're ready, I'll start.

902
00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:22,874
Alright.

903
00:42:24,959 --> 00:42:26,026
Go for it.

904
00:42:26,126 --> 00:42:27,570
Well, this is an original ride vehicle.

905
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:29,655
from Snow White's ride at Disneyland.

906
00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:30,698
My name is Joel McGee.

907
00:42:30,798 --> 00:42:33,284
and I have the biggest one in the world

908
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,411
Disneyland memorabilia collection.

909
00:42:35,511 --> 00:42:37,347
It always has to be the biggest in the world.

910
00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:39,248
Absolutely.

911
00:42:39,348 --> 00:42:41,117
We'll make sure that's your title.

912
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:45,921
You know,
I started about 20 years ago or so.

913
00:42:46,021 --> 00:42:47,173
I was in Orlando.

914
00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:48,466
There was a gentleman there

915
00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:50,634
who had a booth full of Disney items

916
00:42:50,734 --> 00:42:52,761
and many Disney accessories, posters,

917
00:42:52,861 --> 00:42:54,180
things that were actually used in the park,

918
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,057
and I was captivated
Because I've never seen that before.

919
00:42:57,157 --> 00:43:00,603
And you know,
After that it gave me the error.

920
00:43:00,703 --> 00:43:03,314
how much would you spend
In a piece of Disney history?

921
00:43:03,414 --> 00:43:05,399
Well, the Disneyland auction in California.

922
00:43:05,499 --> 00:43:07,735
raised almost 2 million dollars

923
00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:10,362
Auctioning old items like these.

924
00:43:10,462 --> 00:43:12,781
My first big purchase would have to be

925
00:43:12,881 --> 00:43:13,908
The hitchhiking ghosts.

926
00:43:14,008 --> 00:43:14,950
Be careful...

927
00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:18,204
- ...of hitchhiking ghosts.
- Hitchhiking ghosts.

928
00:43:20,222 --> 00:43:24,418
Everyone thought I was
crazy to spend $88,000

929
00:43:24,518 --> 00:43:26,378
about these hitchhiking ghosts.

930
00:43:26,478 --> 00:43:29,006
Now today is a million
So now I can laugh at them.

931
00:43:29,106 --> 00:43:32,927
and say, okay guys, you know,
Who's laughing at this now?

932
00:43:33,027 --> 00:43:34,261
Now fans have a chance.

933
00:43:34,361 --> 00:43:36,764
to take historical Disney pieces

934
00:43:36,864 --> 00:43:38,641
home to its place on earth.

935
00:43:38,741 --> 00:43:40,434
The big explosion happened

936
00:43:40,534 --> 00:43:43,145
when there was an auction
That was in Los Angeles,

937
00:43:43,245 --> 00:43:44,813
and it really was the first time

938
00:43:44,913 --> 00:43:47,233
lots of Disneyland souvenirs
and original accessories

939
00:43:47,333 --> 00:43:49,527
had ever surfaced and come
about at a big auction.

940
00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:51,445
And suddenly the world was watching

941
00:43:51,545 --> 00:43:53,948
and the prices went for crazy dollars,

942
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:55,574
and I guess the race was on

943
00:43:55,674 --> 00:43:57,201
In total, the collection provided

944
00:43:57,301 --> 00:43:59,870
more than 8.3 million dollars.

945
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:01,580
The estimated value of my collection,

946
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,791
That's a bit of a trick question.

947
00:44:03,891 --> 00:44:07,002
The value of this is
somewhere between 250,000

948
00:44:07,102 --> 00:44:08,379
and half a million dollars.

949
00:44:08,479 --> 00:44:11,549
We think it's worth it somewhere
between 30 and 45,000 dollars.

950
00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:15,261
I know what I bought and
I had to pay $50,000 for it,

951
00:44:15,361 --> 00:44:17,513
but that was quite a while ago, so we feel

952
00:44:17,613 --> 00:44:19,974
which today is worth more than
one hundred thousand dollars.

953
00:44:20,074 --> 00:44:23,352
They told me to come in
80 and $150,000

954
00:44:23,452 --> 00:44:24,520
for this particular poster

955
00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:27,189
because simply
there is no other like it.

956
00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:29,066
I'm told it's somewhere

957
00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:31,652
between seven and $10 million.

958
00:44:31,752 --> 00:44:34,655
So we'll see one day.

959
00:44:34,755 --> 00:44:36,299
I guess we'll really find out.

960
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,642
These are my million dollar babies.

961
00:44:47,184 --> 00:44:50,170
That is,
the "greats" have always existed

962
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:52,673
that you knew they were like the great collectors.

963
00:44:52,773 --> 00:44:54,216
When I started collecting things

964
00:44:54,316 --> 00:44:56,135
or to say that
I was infatuated with Disneyland,

965
00:44:56,235 --> 00:44:57,845
It was something geeky.

966
00:44:57,945 --> 00:44:59,555
And now it's fashionable, right?

967
00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:00,764
- I mean...
- It's gotten cooler.

968
00:45:00,864 --> 00:45:03,809
There was an auction in LA
a couple of years ago

969
00:45:03,909 --> 00:45:06,312
and I bid and I won

970
00:45:06,412 --> 00:45:08,439
one of those elongated portraits from the Haunted Mansion.
I was bidding against

971
00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:09,273
one of the richest people in the world.

972
00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:12,443
But I don't want to say his name.

973
00:45:12,543 --> 00:45:14,361
- Yeah.

974
00:45:14,461 --> 00:45:17,323
- Because I still want...
...free Prime shipping in two days.

975
00:45:17,423 --> 00:45:19,074
Yeah, I mean, you know,

976
00:45:26,515 --> 00:45:29,126
everything I buy from
They threw it in the trash, you know?

977
00:45:29,226 --> 00:45:31,003
I mean, so, you know,

978
00:45:31,103 --> 00:45:34,089
I can't say much about that
but, you know, I'm sure no one

979
00:45:34,189 --> 00:45:35,966
He will give you an honest answer.

980
00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:37,343
It's like a supervisor gave it to me.

981
00:45:37,443 --> 00:45:39,887
Clear.

982
00:45:39,987 --> 00:45:41,555
Disney's black market

983
00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:45,368
has always been something.
Everything was pretty murky.

984
00:45:45,909 --> 00:45:48,812
A bunch of shit I bought on eBay.

985
00:45:48,912 --> 00:45:51,857
Where did that come from?

986
00:45:51,957 --> 00:45:53,400
Don't know.

987
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:54,568
Did I ask?
No, I didn't ask.

988
00:45:54,668 --> 00:45:56,445
It's just a little questionable.

989
00:45:56,545 --> 00:45:59,490
Like, how did you get this?

990
00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:01,033
Am I going to buy this and have it,

991
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:02,951
hide it in a closet somewhere?

992
00:46:03,051 --> 00:46:04,995
If I spend like 50 thousand on Buzzy's hand,

993
00:46:05,095 --> 00:46:09,166
Where am I going to fucking put that?

994
00:46:09,266 --> 00:46:10,876
Like, on a shelf somewhere

995
00:46:10,976 --> 00:46:12,044
so that when people enter they say:

996
00:46:12,144 --> 00:46:14,004
that's Buzzy's hand,
the Cranium animatronic.

997
00:46:14,104 --> 00:46:15,798
Do you know what I'm talking about?

998
00:46:15,898 --> 00:46:17,132
You look like a psychopath.

999
00:46:17,232 --> 00:46:18,842
Like, are you kidding me?

1000
00:46:18,942 --> 00:46:20,302
These people who buy this shit,

1001
00:46:20,402 --> 00:46:22,721
It's almost ridiculous to say:

1002
00:46:22,821 --> 00:46:24,473
Oh, I didn't know it was stolen.

1003
00:46:24,573 --> 00:46:26,475
Know? Like, really?

1004
00:46:26,575 --> 00:46:28,060
Like, it's obviously stolen.

1005
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,020
If you have money

1006
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,332
but you don't want to steal,
There's an option there, you know?

1007
00:46:33,791 --> 00:46:35,877
I can tell you the first thing

1008
00:46:39,254 --> 00:46:42,842
that I stole from Disney.
It was when I was about 11 or 12 years old,

1009
00:46:44,092 --> 00:46:47,413
and I was in Tomorrowland

1010
00:46:47,513 --> 00:46:49,581
and they had like these little ice cubes

1011
00:46:49,681 --> 00:46:51,291
that they had the drinks inside, and I passed

1012
00:46:51,391 --> 00:46:53,127
and grabbed a bottle of water.

1013
00:46:53,227 --> 00:46:56,714
and I grabbed a bottle of water
and I kept walking.

1014
00:46:56,814 --> 00:46:59,800
But when I worked there,
I think the first thing

1015
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:01,427
What I actually stole were quick passes.

1016
00:47:01,527 --> 00:47:03,262
People gave them to me
and I was thinking, oh, you know,

1017
00:47:03,362 --> 00:47:05,180
you keep them and put them on eBay

1018
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,390
and earned some extra money.

1019
00:47:06,490 --> 00:47:07,641
Everyone did it.

1020
00:47:07,741 --> 00:47:08,809
I mean, I wasn't the only one.

1021
00:47:08,909 --> 00:47:10,352
Everyone said, oh,
yes, it's not supposed

1022
00:47:10,452 --> 00:47:12,229
that you take them home,
But we all do it, you know?

1023
00:47:12,329 --> 00:47:14,148
And it was kind of
slippery slope from there.

1024
00:47:14,248 --> 00:47:17,651
And stole small things
like little signs

1025
00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:21,071
and musty planes and
Things that I thought, oh yeah,

1026
00:47:21,171 --> 00:47:23,073
They would never notice this crap was missing.

1027
00:47:23,173 --> 00:47:25,468
For me, it was definitely something like,

1028
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:30,664
I wanted to put distance
between me and that.

1029
00:47:30,764 --> 00:47:32,499
I never really had the idea of,

1030
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:34,710
Oh, let me take this.

1031
00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:36,128
Oh, how much is it worth?

1032
00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:40,382
I mean, that never crossed my mind.
until I met Patrick,

1033
00:47:40,482 --> 00:47:41,759
and he started telling me how much

1034
00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:45,304
these very rich private collectors
they were actually paying

1035
00:47:45,404 --> 00:47:47,264
or willing to pay for certain things.

1036
00:47:47,364 --> 00:47:49,266
When I posted some small things,

1037
00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:53,979
I got messages on eBay saying,
oh, this is great.

1038
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:55,355
Do you have anything else for sale?

1039
00:47:55,455 --> 00:47:58,192
There was a guy and
I wanted some manuals

1040
00:47:58,292 --> 00:48:00,068
and I said, oh,
I know where there are some manuals.

1041
00:48:00,168 --> 00:48:02,988
He said, oh,
I will give you $500 per manual,

1042
00:48:03,088 --> 00:48:05,699
and I came out with like
10 of them in a large backpack

1043
00:48:05,799 --> 00:48:08,327
and I was thinking, "Wow, that's cool."

1044
00:48:08,427 --> 00:48:12,557
You know, it was a lot of money.
for little effort.

1045
00:48:15,058 --> 00:48:17,961
In a transaction,

1046
00:48:18,061 --> 00:48:21,173
I think I won $25,000.

1047
00:48:21,273 --> 00:48:24,009
Probably the highest offer I had,

1048
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:25,803
and what is, this is ridiculous,

1049
00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:30,349
They offered me $75,000 in cash to rob this guy.

1050
00:48:30,449 --> 00:48:33,185
the redhead from Pirates of the Caribbean.

1051
00:48:33,285 --> 00:48:35,437
They sent it, I'm not going to say where,

1052
00:48:35,537 --> 00:48:38,357
but it was in a location
which I could access,

1053
00:48:38,457 --> 00:48:42,611
and I considered it because
It's a lot of money,

1054
00:48:42,711 --> 00:48:44,988
but it's also a lot of time in jail.

1055
00:48:45,088 --> 00:48:46,907
It was a lot, it was a lot of money.

1056
00:48:47,007 --> 00:48:48,843
I thought about that a lot

1057
00:48:50,636 --> 00:48:52,746
and I decided it wasn't worth it.

1058
00:48:52,846 --> 00:48:53,789
It wasn't worth it.

1059
00:48:53,889 --> 00:48:56,208
I never really kept track

1060
00:48:56,308 --> 00:48:58,752
how much I earned in a year,

1061
00:48:58,852 --> 00:49:03,549
but it's probably closer to $200,000,
which, you know,

1062
00:49:03,649 --> 00:49:07,135
and it's hard to honestly believe
because people look at it

1063
00:49:07,235 --> 00:49:08,762
and he says, this is, you know, this is garbage.

1064
00:49:08,862 --> 00:49:10,973
Why would anyone pay money for this?

1065
00:49:11,073 --> 00:49:11,807
Don't know.

1066
00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:13,183
It doesn't make any sense.

1067
00:49:13,283 --> 00:49:15,853
Why is it a Disney accessory?

1068
00:49:15,953 --> 00:49:17,896
and makes it worth that much money?

1069
00:49:17,996 --> 00:49:19,565
That confuses me.

1070
00:49:19,665 --> 00:49:22,943
He is dead,
He is suddenly dead and lifeless.

1071
00:49:23,043 --> 00:49:24,111
It's not part of that scene.

1072
00:49:24,211 --> 00:49:26,572
It's not, you know,
if you take that plastic stake

1073
00:49:26,672 --> 00:49:30,534
mannequin grill
and you take it home,

1074
00:49:30,634 --> 00:49:32,411
It's just a fucking piece of plastic.

1075
00:49:32,511 --> 00:49:35,289
Suddenly it's not anymore
Magical to me, you know?

1076
00:49:35,389 --> 00:49:37,374
So I've never been
a big collector of that kind of stuff

1077
00:49:37,474 --> 00:49:41,628
because they are actually worthless.

1078
00:49:41,728 --> 00:49:43,881
When I started stealing things,

1079
00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:47,175
actually I wasn't
worried that the police

1080
00:49:47,275 --> 00:49:50,387
will get involved because
most of the things I took,

1081
00:49:50,487 --> 00:49:52,764
He considered them of very little value.

1082
00:49:52,864 --> 00:49:54,558
You know, I looked it up and said:

1083
00:49:54,658 --> 00:49:58,145
"Okay, less than 300 dollars
"It's a misdemeanor in Florida."

1084
00:49:58,245 --> 00:49:59,813
But some of the things, I thought:

1085
00:49:59,913 --> 00:50:01,315
"How much does a 'people mover' manual cost?"

1086
00:50:01,415 --> 00:50:03,191
I mean, is it worth the paper and the manual?

1087
00:50:03,291 --> 00:50:04,860
Why is that worth pennies?

1088
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,361
What is it?
It's worthless.

1089
00:50:06,461 --> 00:50:08,196
It's worthless, you know?

1090
00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:10,449
How much is the Mona Lisa worth?

1091
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:13,452
Nothing, it's just canvas and paint.

1092
00:50:13,552 --> 00:50:15,829
Just because you can sell something
for a million dollars,

1093
00:50:15,929 --> 00:50:18,290
you know,
It doesn't mean it's worth a million dollars.

1094
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:20,500
It's only worth what you can get out of it.

1095
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,545
The first time I met Patrick was in 2018.

1096
00:50:23,645 --> 00:50:25,464
I think he contacted me.

1097
00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:27,758
I think he said something like:
"Hey, I don't know you,

1098
00:50:27,858 --> 00:50:29,384
But I think we would be friends."

1099
00:50:29,484 --> 00:50:30,886
And I told him:
"Shit, I think you're right."

1100
00:50:30,986 --> 00:50:32,971
So we started seeing each other
from time to time,

1101
00:50:33,071 --> 00:50:35,140
He showed me how to get into places.

1102
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:36,725
I'm not going to lie, I was impressed.

1103
00:50:36,825 --> 00:50:39,186
how intricate what he did was.

1104
00:50:39,286 --> 00:50:42,481
That is, he took out
the keys and put them back

1105
00:50:42,581 --> 00:50:45,150
before the night was over.

1106
00:50:45,250 --> 00:50:47,569
So see how it operated, you know,

1107
00:50:47,669 --> 00:50:49,714
It blew my mind a little.

1108
00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,341
What is that Congo something?

1109
00:50:54,051 --> 00:50:55,678
What's it called?

1110
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:57,755
Hey?

1111
00:50:58,513 --> 00:50:59,548
Congo Mountain.

1112
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,292
Oh, is it Thunder Mountain?

1113
00:51:02,392 --> 00:51:03,502
I mean, I remember there was a moment,

1114
00:51:03,602 --> 00:51:04,920
I mean, Patrick went backstage

1115
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:06,088
and I remember there was like,

1116
00:51:06,188 --> 00:51:08,590
a small display like a campfire,

1117
00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:11,843
and they had some fish in the fire

1118
00:51:11,943 --> 00:51:14,680
and he grabbed the campfire stick

1119
00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:18,058
and took out one of those little ones
fake bat fish,

1120
00:51:18,158 --> 00:51:21,478
and said:
"Do you want a fish, buddy?"

1121
00:51:21,578 --> 00:51:24,082
Then he gave me the
fish and I just thought:

1122
00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:26,650
I guess.

1123
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:27,484
You know, I kept it.

1124
00:51:27,584 --> 00:51:30,112
I thought, "This is not what I do."

1125
00:51:30,212 --> 00:51:31,279
I don't steal anything.

1126
00:51:31,379 --> 00:51:32,280
You understand me?

1127
00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:35,951
So that was definitely
a little out of my comfort zone.

1128
00:51:36,051 --> 00:51:39,246
In fact, I saw in Matt's video
some like film canisters

1129
00:51:39,346 --> 00:51:41,832
that said 'Cranium Command
Wonders of Life'.

1130
00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:43,500
I wanted those.

1131
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,169
A girl I was exploring with
with, she was broke

1132
00:51:46,269 --> 00:51:47,879
and I told him:
"I, yes, you come with me,

1133
00:51:47,979 --> 00:51:50,173
maybe you can grab a sign
or whatever, you know?

1134
00:51:50,273 --> 00:51:51,925
You put it on eBay and sell it, you know?"

1135
00:51:52,025 --> 00:51:53,260
And we were there and she said:

1136
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,886
"Hey, look at that thing."

1137
00:51:54,986 --> 00:51:56,013
And I said, "Yeah, it's Buzzy.

1138
00:51:56,113 --> 00:51:57,097
You know, whatever."

1139
00:51:57,197 --> 00:51:58,098
She said, "You know what?

1140
00:51:58,198 --> 00:51:59,808
We should take off his clothes,
you know?"

1141
00:51:59,908 --> 00:52:04,312
And I told him:
"Damn, okay, whatever, already."

1142
00:52:04,412 --> 00:52:08,233
So she got up there and
he took off her clothes,

1143
00:52:08,333 --> 00:52:09,276
but it bothered me

1144
00:52:09,376 --> 00:52:11,361
because I had to leave
my film cans back

1145
00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:12,696
because we didn't have space.

1146
00:52:12,796 --> 00:52:15,157
So not really
I took off Buzzy's clothes

1147
00:52:15,257 --> 00:52:16,950
Buzzy's animatronic, you know?

1148
00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:18,744
I didn't want to steal them.

1149
00:52:18,844 --> 00:52:22,372
Not really, because it was bad vibes.

1150
00:52:22,472 --> 00:52:25,333
So that was like, you know,

1151
00:52:25,433 --> 00:52:26,710
that's where it became a problem.

1152
00:52:26,810 --> 00:52:28,211
I think a lot of people thought:

1153
00:52:28,311 --> 00:52:29,629
"Oh, this guy is an idiot."

1154
00:52:29,729 --> 00:52:31,631
"Why would I be stealing things and, like,

1155
00:52:31,731 --> 00:52:33,633
uploading photos of
things I was stealing?"

1156
00:52:33,733 --> 00:52:36,970
And that literally never happened.

1157
00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:38,889
So I never really uploaded photos.

1158
00:52:38,989 --> 00:52:40,182
of shit he was stealing.

1159
00:52:40,282 --> 00:52:41,576
That was separate.

1160
00:52:42,868 --> 00:52:44,512
I should have kept it separate.

1161
00:52:44,828 --> 00:52:48,565
If I wanted to be the backdoor blog,

1162
00:52:48,665 --> 00:52:52,486
You know, I should have done it later,

1163
00:52:52,586 --> 00:52:54,196
long after the theft had stopped.

1164
00:52:54,296 --> 00:52:56,907
But unfortunately, the two things crossed,

1165
00:52:57,007 --> 00:52:58,801
which is where I screwed up.

1166
00:53:00,218 --> 00:53:03,371
So in August 2018, Disney reports

1167
00:53:03,471 --> 00:53:06,708
to the Orange County Sheriff's Office
that the clothes

1168
00:53:06,808 --> 00:53:09,252
belonging to Buzzy the
animatronic is missing,

1169
00:53:09,352 --> 00:53:11,898
and then there is a big twist in this case.

1170
00:53:19,104 --> 00:53:22,700
The authorities now know
that Buzzy himself has disappeared.

1171
00:53:27,412 --> 00:53:29,356
The reaction on Twitter was shock

1172
00:53:29,506 --> 00:53:31,191
that this animatronic
could have been removed

1173
00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:32,567
Without Disney's knowledge,

1174
00:53:32,667 --> 00:53:35,403
and then there were many people
what the story was about

1175
00:53:35,503 --> 00:53:37,531
just like I did when
I heard it for the first time

1176
00:53:37,631 --> 00:53:39,449
and I thought it had to be invented.

1177
00:53:39,549 --> 00:53:40,992
There was no way it could be true.

1178
00:53:41,092 --> 00:53:43,620
Take Buzzy, it seems
That would be quite difficult.

1179
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,038
I don't know.
I don't know.

1180
00:53:45,138 --> 00:53:46,039
How could it happen?

1181
00:53:46,139 --> 00:53:47,374
How much does that thing weigh?

1182
00:53:47,474 --> 00:53:49,084
I am a big man, and I imagine

1183
00:53:49,184 --> 00:53:51,044
that the animatronic weighs more than me,

1184
00:53:51,144 --> 00:53:53,421
and I can't imagine Patrick
Spikes lifting me up

1185
00:53:53,521 --> 00:53:55,632
and putting me, you know, in a duffel bag

1186
00:53:55,732 --> 00:53:56,758
and knocking me out of the park.

1187
00:53:56,858 --> 00:53:58,927
So the animatronic was very big,

1188
00:53:59,027 --> 00:54:01,680
approximately the size of a person.

1189
00:54:01,780 --> 00:54:03,557
Not to mention its weight.

1190
00:54:03,657 --> 00:54:07,686
It takes a village to steal
such an animatronic.

1191
00:54:07,786 --> 00:54:09,771
To be honest, my first thought

1192
00:54:09,871 --> 00:54:11,731
It wasn't that they had stolen it,

1193
00:54:11,831 --> 00:54:14,317
but that Imagineering had decided

1194
00:54:14,417 --> 00:54:17,863
finally get it out to the
files where it belonged.

1195
00:54:17,963 --> 00:54:19,030
I don't believe that.

1196
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:21,116
When you see the photos
how they cut it,

1197
00:54:21,216 --> 00:54:24,035
That was not done cleanly,
it was done in haste,

1198
00:54:24,135 --> 00:54:25,996
It was made with cable cutters,

1199
00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:28,456
and you see the fluids sprayed everywhere.

1200
00:54:28,556 --> 00:54:31,960
That was not a job that the archives did.

1201
00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:33,128
Someone got in there

1202
00:54:33,228 --> 00:54:35,172
probably took photos
of the whole situation,

1203
00:54:35,272 --> 00:54:37,424
what kept it mounted,
What would they need?

1204
00:54:37,524 --> 00:54:39,342
They knew exactly what they needed to do,

1205
00:54:39,442 --> 00:54:40,886
when to do it, how to do it.

1206
00:54:40,986 --> 00:54:43,263
They cut Buzzy up and took him out,

1207
00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:45,140
and they took him in a truck

1208
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:48,018
back through the construction entrance,
and that's all.

1209
00:54:48,118 --> 00:54:49,186
It's Occam's razor.

1210
00:54:49,286 --> 00:54:54,399
Like, as crazy as it is,
that is the simplest solution.

1211
00:54:54,499 --> 00:54:57,194
That's the simplest answer
to what happened to Buzzy.

1212
00:54:57,294 --> 00:54:58,820
If someone just came in and took it,

1213
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,989
then congratulations
because you just did

1214
00:55:01,089 --> 00:55:03,658
Walt Disney World's "Oceans 11."

1215
00:55:03,758 --> 00:55:04,868
Have you seen Patrick?

1216
00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:06,411
So, have you met him in person?

1217
00:55:06,511 --> 00:55:08,288
I saw that you have a video on YouTube.

1218
00:55:08,388 --> 00:55:09,122
Which?

1219
00:55:09,222 --> 00:55:10,290
Buzzy's?

1220
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:11,708
No, I haven't seen that one.

1221
00:55:11,808 --> 00:55:14,002
I saw another guy.

1222
00:55:14,102 --> 00:55:15,253
- Matt?
- Yeah!

1223
00:55:15,353 --> 00:55:16,213
Matt Sonswa?

1224
00:55:16,313 --> 00:55:17,130
Yes.

1225
00:55:17,230 --> 00:55:18,840
Saint Cyr?
That's one of the types

1226
00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:20,300
that Patrick delivered this weekend

1227
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,052
to try to save his own skin.

1228
00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:24,763
I stayed away from that whole situation,

1229
00:55:24,863 --> 00:55:27,349
and I want to say that they mentioned me
several times

1230
00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:28,484
and I just thought,

1231
00:55:30,452 --> 00:55:31,895
I'm going to stay here calmly.

1232
00:55:31,995 --> 00:55:33,730
You guys solve that.

1233
00:55:33,830 --> 00:55:34,522
I know I didn't throw

1234
00:55:34,622 --> 00:55:37,359
a fucking 135 kilo animatronic
over my shoulder

1235
00:55:37,459 --> 00:55:39,236
and I walked out of Epcot.

1236
00:55:39,336 --> 00:55:41,738
Patrick is blaming everything on Matt.

1237
00:55:41,838 --> 00:55:45,700
Matt sneaks into places
and records them, whatever.

1238
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,637
Patrick steals, so that's the problem.

1239
00:55:50,930 --> 00:55:54,226
sit down,
and let me bring my folder and everything.

1240
00:55:55,310 --> 00:55:56,253
Do you need water or something?

1241
00:55:56,353 --> 00:55:57,087
I'm fine.

1242
00:55:57,187 --> 00:55:58,664
Okay, give me a second.

1243
00:56:01,483 --> 00:56:03,885
The police had been calling me
and they wanted me to do something,

1244
00:56:03,985 --> 00:56:05,804
talk to them, whatever,
and I wasn't very interested

1245
00:56:05,904 --> 00:56:08,348
until one day they called me and said:

1246
00:56:08,448 --> 00:56:10,058
"Something else was stolen from Epcot,

1247
00:56:10,158 --> 00:56:12,435
and we have them on video
and we are like passing this photo

1248
00:56:12,535 --> 00:56:15,272
to see if you know who it is."
And you know what?

1249
00:56:15,372 --> 00:56:16,356
Damn, they caught me.

1250
00:56:16,456 --> 00:56:17,500
They didn't have video of me stealing,

1251
00:56:18,291 --> 00:56:19,651
but they might as well have had it.

1252
00:56:19,751 --> 00:56:20,860
Do you have a cell phone?

1253
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,861
Do you have a cell phone?

1254
00:56:21,961 --> 00:56:22,821
I.

1255
00:56:22,921 --> 00:56:23,947
What type of phone do you have?

1256
00:56:24,047 --> 00:56:25,282
- iPhone.
- iPhone.

1257
00:56:25,382 --> 00:56:27,009
So, here's why.

1258
00:56:30,261 --> 00:56:31,472
Then let's talk.

1259
00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:34,916
Well, what's up with that?

1260
00:56:35,016 --> 00:56:36,084
What do you mean what's up with that?

1261
00:56:36,184 --> 00:56:37,236
What's that?

1262
00:56:38,019 --> 00:56:38,753
It's like a jacket.

1263
00:56:38,853 --> 00:56:39,587
They are giant words.

1264
00:56:39,687 --> 00:56:40,964
What jacket is that?

1265
00:56:41,064 --> 00:56:42,716
-Cranium Command.
- Okay.

1266
00:56:42,816 --> 00:56:44,985
Can you put your phone
on the table for me?

1267
00:56:47,529 --> 00:56:48,513
Yes, put it here.

1268
00:56:48,613 --> 00:56:50,466
Don't touch it, just leave it.

1269
00:56:51,533 --> 00:56:53,977
Okay, so these photos are on that phone?

1270
00:56:54,077 --> 00:56:54,811
No.

1271
00:56:54,911 --> 00:56:56,062
Were they taken with that phone?

1272
00:56:56,162 --> 00:56:57,314
- No.
- Okay.

1273
00:56:57,414 --> 00:56:59,333
So how long have you had that phone?

1274
00:57:01,084 --> 00:57:02,161
Maybe.

1275
00:57:04,754 --> 00:57:05,989
I mean...

1276
00:57:06,089 --> 00:57:07,174
No, leave it.

1277
00:57:08,341 --> 00:57:10,452
I don't want you to touch it.

1278
00:57:10,552 --> 00:57:12,421
So how long have you had that phone?

1279
00:57:16,182 --> 00:57:18,501
That one in particular, maybe two months.

1280
00:57:18,601 --> 00:57:21,880
So those photos
they are on the internet right now

1281
00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:23,840
and are attached to your phone number.

1282
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:26,176
Didn't you send those photos?

1283
00:57:26,276 --> 00:57:27,510
No.

1284
00:57:27,610 --> 00:57:28,946
So that's not your car?

1285
00:57:30,196 --> 00:57:31,514
Don't you have a bag like that?

1286
00:57:31,614 --> 00:57:33,808
or have you ever owned one like that?

1287
00:57:33,908 --> 00:57:36,436
Isn't this backstage at Disney World?

1288
00:57:36,536 --> 00:57:37,621
Isn't this your leg?

1289
00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:39,731
I just want to get all of this out into the light.

1290
00:57:39,831 --> 00:57:42,233
so that later because obviously,
you realize now

1291
00:57:42,333 --> 00:57:44,170
that I know more than you think I know.

1292
00:57:45,211 --> 00:57:47,655
Okay, I want to make sure
that all your lies are clear right now

1293
00:57:47,755 --> 00:57:48,948
or do you want to confess it right now

1294
00:57:49,048 --> 00:57:50,116
because I know a little more

1295
00:57:50,216 --> 00:57:52,118
of what I'm telling you, Patrick.

1296
00:57:52,218 --> 00:57:53,620
What do you know?

1297
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,705
I just told you that I'm not going to tell you.

1298
00:57:55,805 --> 00:57:57,207
- How about this?
- Yes.

1299
00:57:57,307 --> 00:57:58,583
I'm about to leave.

1300
00:57:58,683 --> 00:57:59,417
And if you want to talk,

1301
00:57:59,517 --> 00:58:00,668
I will return to my lawyer.

1302
00:58:00,768 --> 00:58:01,336
How about that?

1303
00:58:01,436 --> 00:58:03,171
Okay, leave the car there,

1304
00:58:03,271 --> 00:58:05,423
and we keep your phone,
and in fact...

1305
00:58:05,523 --> 00:58:06,566
Give it to me.

1306
00:58:09,736 --> 00:58:10,905
Give me the phone.

1307
00:58:13,114 --> 00:58:14,149
Curse.

1308
00:58:15,492 --> 00:58:17,769
Am I under arrest?

1309
00:58:17,869 --> 00:58:19,979
You can't record that
without an order, friend.

1310
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:21,147
I grabbed my phone

1311
00:58:21,247 --> 00:58:24,025
because they didn't have
a damn order for him.

1312
00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:28,863
I had every right to grab that one.
phone and go out with him,

1313
00:58:28,963 --> 00:58:30,240
but they took him away.

1314
00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:32,826
Well, stay there.

1315
00:58:32,926 --> 00:58:34,720
Hey.

1316
00:58:37,597 --> 00:58:39,408
Can I call my mom and tell her that?

1317
00:58:40,391 --> 00:58:41,584
You are an adult, correct?

1318
00:58:41,684 --> 00:58:42,419
Yeah.

1319
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:43,461
I'm not going to call your mom.

1320
00:58:43,561 --> 00:58:45,046
Stay there, okay?

1321
00:58:45,146 --> 00:58:46,464
You have simple instructions,

1322
00:58:46,564 --> 00:58:48,216
you didn't want to follow them
so let's do that.

1323
00:58:48,316 --> 00:58:49,384
You're not going to destroy evidence.

1324
00:58:49,484 --> 00:58:50,677
I wasn't going to destroy evidence.

1325
00:58:50,777 --> 00:58:52,171
I made you take my phone.

1326
00:58:53,571 --> 00:58:57,451
I was trapped
and I was sweating buckets.

1327
00:58:58,785 --> 00:59:00,061
Shit.

1328
00:59:00,161 --> 00:59:03,690
I can't give exact details,
but I knew I was going to go to jail,

1329
00:59:03,790 --> 00:59:05,442
and if they were making movements

1330
00:59:05,542 --> 00:59:07,610
and registering properties and things,

1331
00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:11,197
I knew I needed to send
a message to someone.

1332
00:59:11,297 --> 00:59:13,324
You know, I was sitting there
after they put the handcuffs on me

1333
00:59:13,424 --> 00:59:14,951
and I thought, you know what I could do?

1334
00:59:15,051 --> 00:59:17,245
Hospital phones are not recorded.

1335
00:59:31,442 --> 00:59:33,344
I can't breathe.

1336
00:59:33,444 --> 00:59:34,480
Did you know?

1337
00:59:35,530 --> 00:59:39,767
No matter what you do,
We can't let you go anywhere.

1338
00:59:39,867 --> 00:59:41,436
I can't breathe.

1339
00:59:41,536 --> 00:59:43,789
Okay, sit down, sit down.

1340
00:59:44,622 --> 00:59:45,732
- Sit down.
- I can't breathe.

1341
00:59:45,832 --> 00:59:46,566
You will be able to.

1342
00:59:46,666 --> 00:59:47,668
Breathe slowly.

1343
00:59:49,294 --> 00:59:51,529
Do you have any medical conditions, Patrick?

1344
00:59:51,629 --> 00:59:54,574
What do you have?

1345
00:59:54,674 --> 00:59:55,533
Asthma.

1346
00:59:55,633 --> 00:59:56,284
Asthma?

1347
00:59:56,384 --> 00:59:57,452
Where is your inhaler?

1348
00:59:57,552 --> 00:59:58,161
I don't have it.

1349
00:59:58,261 --> 00:59:59,162
You're panicking right now.

1350
00:59:59,262 --> 01:00:00,497
Breathe slower.

1351
01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:01,498
My face is asleep.

1352
01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:03,249
Is your face asleep?
Okay.

1353
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:04,384
My heart.

1354
01:00:05,268 --> 01:00:06,586
What's wrong with your heart?

1355
01:00:06,686 --> 01:00:08,213
I have arrhythmia.

1356
01:00:08,313 --> 01:00:09,923
Do you have hyperarrhythmia?

1357
01:00:10,023 --> 01:00:11,716
Okay, what is that?

1358
01:00:11,816 --> 01:00:12,851
What does that mean?

1359
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:15,637
Don't let me die.

1360
01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:16,905
You're not going to die.

1361
01:00:17,822 --> 01:00:22,828
Are you OK.
Sit down.

1362
01:00:25,872 --> 01:00:29,275
Patrick, don't fall off your chair, man.

1363
01:00:29,375 --> 01:00:31,629
Now you're pushing yourself
out of the chair.

1364
01:00:34,047 --> 01:00:35,082
He can stand.

1365
01:00:35,632 --> 01:00:37,283
Did you say you have asthma?

1366
01:00:37,383 --> 01:00:39,470
Asthma and hypersomething.

1367
01:00:40,637 --> 01:00:43,206
And indeed,
I ended up in the hospital

1368
01:00:43,306 --> 01:00:44,666
But there was no one in the room with me,

1369
01:00:44,766 --> 01:00:48,670
and the officer was outside waiting

1370
01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:52,632
and I just kind of slipped
towards the wall

1371
01:00:52,732 --> 01:00:54,259
and he had the phone.

1372
01:00:54,359 --> 01:00:56,362
I had to tell someone.

1373
01:00:57,195 --> 01:00:57,804
Did you know?

1374
01:00:57,904 --> 01:01:00,616
And I will say it worked, it worked.

1375
01:01:00,907 --> 01:01:02,350
do you have a boyfriend
who lives here with you?

1376
01:01:02,450 --> 01:01:03,184
Yes.

1377
01:01:03,284 --> 01:01:04,060
What is it called?

1378
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,996
-Patrick.
- OK.

1379
01:01:07,205 --> 01:01:09,899
I think he's with us right now.

1380
01:01:09,999 --> 01:01:11,859
I was arrested for resisting an officer,

1381
01:01:11,959 --> 01:01:14,062
and then they went to search my house.

1382
01:01:16,839 --> 01:01:19,009
But there was a lot
that they did not find.

1383
01:01:21,928 --> 01:01:24,539
Who did I call?
Who knows.

1384
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:26,124
Congratulations, Orange County.

1385
01:01:26,224 --> 01:01:28,209
They played them, bastards.

1386
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:31,087
So the sheriff's detectives know

1387
01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:33,631
that Patrick Spike sent photos

1388
01:01:33,731 --> 01:01:35,216
of Buzzy's clothes to someone,

1389
01:01:35,316 --> 01:01:38,428
and you see a backpack
tan color in those photos,

1390
01:01:38,528 --> 01:01:41,681
and search your house and
They find the same tan backpack

1391
01:01:41,781 --> 01:01:44,183
that they had seen
before in those photos.

1392
01:01:44,283 --> 01:01:46,561
One day later,
a judge authorizes a search warrant

1393
01:01:46,661 --> 01:01:49,147
so that the authorities can register your phone,

1394
01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:50,857
and one photo really stands out.

1395
01:01:50,957 --> 01:01:53,192
It's a closeup of a costume tag.

1396
01:01:53,292 --> 01:01:55,987
The authorities can see that
this tag is connected

1397
01:01:56,087 --> 01:01:58,281
to the haunted mansion
in the Magic Kingdom.

1398
01:01:58,381 --> 01:02:01,159
Yes, we robbed the haunted mansion.

1399
01:02:01,259 --> 01:02:03,578
I mean, and it feels weird to say it,

1400
01:02:03,678 --> 01:02:05,931
but I robbed the haunted mansion.

1401
01:02:06,848 --> 01:02:09,667
So, this guy Brett I've been dealing with,

1402
01:02:09,767 --> 01:02:12,378
He liked costumes and had been

1403
01:02:12,478 --> 01:02:15,632
on the "Keys to the Kingdom" tour
where they take you

1404
01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:17,717
below, to the ballroom scene,

1405
01:02:17,817 --> 01:02:20,303
and I had seen those
like animatronic costumes

1406
01:02:20,403 --> 01:02:24,307
and he told me:
"Do you ever go there?"

1407
01:02:24,407 --> 01:02:26,434
And I said, "Yes, all the time."

1408
01:02:26,534 --> 01:02:28,645
Like, "Do you think you could
get me some of those?"

1409
01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,897
I said, "Maybe."

1410
01:02:30,997 --> 01:02:33,691
Patrick and his cousin
They were in the Magic Kingdom

1411
01:02:33,791 --> 01:02:36,545
on July 31, 2018.

1412
01:02:37,545 --> 01:02:39,405
It's not like they sneak in late at night

1413
01:02:39,505 --> 01:02:41,908
not even early in the morning
before the park opened.

1414
01:02:42,008 --> 01:02:44,077
This is, you know,
when the game is moving

1415
01:02:44,177 --> 01:02:46,829
and there were a thousand people
passing every hour.

1416
01:02:46,929 --> 01:02:50,875
So we ended up going there
and we take what we take.

1417
01:02:50,975 --> 01:02:53,127
There were many costumes
in those closets.

1418
01:02:53,227 --> 01:02:55,004
We kept a lot of them.

1419
01:02:55,104 --> 01:02:57,548
There were many to take away
and there were many left.

1420
01:02:57,648 --> 01:02:58,716
It was a lot.

1421
01:02:58,816 --> 01:03:02,804
We carry huge black bags,

1422
01:03:02,904 --> 01:03:05,807
that looked like soldiers.

1423
01:03:05,907 --> 01:03:09,602
We fill them completely
and we just take them out

1424
01:03:09,702 --> 01:03:12,980
and we got on the cast members' bus,

1425
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,732
and the bus was so full.

1426
01:03:14,832 --> 01:03:16,109
It was a little awkward

1427
01:03:16,209 --> 01:03:19,737
drag those huge and full bags,
but on the bus,

1428
01:03:19,837 --> 01:03:21,989
no one questioned us.

1429
01:03:22,089 --> 01:03:25,618
Fast forward, it's now December 2018

1430
01:03:25,718 --> 01:03:27,578
and the sheriff's office
registered your phone,

1431
01:03:27,678 --> 01:03:30,039
and this is how the authorities
they really build their case

1432
01:03:30,139 --> 01:03:31,708
against Patrick Spikes.

1433
01:03:31,808 --> 01:03:33,918
Since they had that phone,
were able to enter

1434
01:03:34,018 --> 01:03:35,920
and see things, and indeed,

1435
01:03:36,020 --> 01:03:38,881
there are many
unfortunate screenshots there.

1436
01:03:38,981 --> 01:03:41,008
Numerous pieces of Disney property

1437
01:03:41,108 --> 01:03:42,760
were found on his phone,

1438
01:03:42,860 --> 01:03:45,555
almost all of which
It was later determined that they were stolen.

1439
01:03:45,655 --> 01:03:48,558
There's a photo of Patrick smiling,
putting on the wig,

1440
01:03:48,658 --> 01:03:51,936
there are photos of
Patrick's cousin's girlfriend

1441
01:03:52,036 --> 01:03:54,814
posing with one of the game's costumes.

1442
01:03:54,914 --> 01:03:55,982
They don't go to Walmart

1443
01:03:56,082 --> 01:03:58,234
and buy a damn dress for those ghosts.

1444
01:03:58,334 --> 01:04:01,696
There are seamstresses who do those things.

1445
01:04:01,796 --> 01:04:03,865
customized for that animatronic character.

1446
01:04:03,965 --> 01:04:05,700
It's a very expensive dress,

1447
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,910
and you're talking about getting in there

1448
01:04:08,010 --> 01:04:10,621
In the land of crime, you know?

1449
01:04:10,721 --> 01:04:11,456
Did he tell you

1450
01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:12,749
where are you getting those things from?

1451
01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:13,499
No not at all.

1452
01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:15,376
You know, he has his headphones in the trunk.

1453
01:04:15,476 --> 01:04:17,378
I think they're Buzzy's headphones.

1454
01:04:17,478 --> 01:04:18,212
I'm not sure.

1455
01:04:18,312 --> 01:04:19,797
If you have any idea where they ended up,

1456
01:04:19,897 --> 01:04:20,923
That would help me more.

1457
01:04:21,023 --> 01:04:22,175
Yes, they are with Robin.

1458
01:04:22,275 --> 01:04:23,468
Does Robin have Buzzy's clothes?

1459
01:04:23,568 --> 01:04:24,302
Yes.

1460
01:04:24,402 --> 01:04:25,219
I know he is a public figure

1461
01:04:25,319 --> 01:04:26,763
So I don't want to embarrass him.

1462
01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:27,930
Would Robin cooperate with us?

1463
01:04:28,030 --> 01:04:29,932
- What do you think?
- 100%.

1464
01:04:30,032 --> 01:04:32,727
- Lopez advancing.
- Oh, get out of there.

1465
01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:33,853
An NBA player.

1466
01:04:33,953 --> 01:04:35,354
An NBA player has purchased

1467
01:04:35,454 --> 01:04:37,607
some of Patrick's stolen items.

1468
01:04:37,707 --> 01:04:39,275
He is a big fan of Disney World.

1469
01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:42,028
Him and his twin brother,
who also plays in the NBA,

1470
01:04:42,128 --> 01:04:43,821
They grew up going to Disney World.

1471
01:04:43,921 --> 01:04:46,824
Now that they are adults,
They post regularly about Disney

1472
01:04:46,924 --> 01:04:49,035
and his trips to
Orlando on social networks.

1473
01:04:49,135 --> 01:04:51,329
Newcomer to the Bucks, Robin Lopez,

1474
01:04:51,429 --> 01:04:53,206
at practice on monday

1475
01:04:53,306 --> 01:04:56,083
now he is involved without knowing it
in a theft scam at Disney.

1476
01:04:56,183 --> 01:04:59,337
How did you meet Patrick Spikes?

1477
01:04:59,437 --> 01:05:00,296
On eBay.

1478
01:05:00,396 --> 01:05:04,592
He mentioned that he had some
Cranium Command articles.

1479
01:05:04,692 --> 01:05:08,763
He mentioned that he had the
suit, jacket,

1480
01:05:08,863 --> 01:05:11,057
The headphones, and everything, I think.

1481
01:05:11,157 --> 01:05:13,768
As a collector, that was a
Very exciting prospect for me.

1482
01:05:13,868 --> 01:05:15,520
And you know that we are missing

1483
01:05:15,620 --> 01:05:18,272
the animatronic Buzzy himself, right?

1484
01:05:18,372 --> 01:05:20,149
I heard the rumor, yes.

1485
01:05:20,249 --> 01:05:21,025
Okay.

1486
01:05:21,125 --> 01:05:24,278
Have you ever heard Patrick talk
that he owned that,

1487
01:05:24,378 --> 01:05:27,424
or some information that
Will you help me track it?

1488
01:05:28,341 --> 01:05:30,618
No, I'm sorry,
I never heard anything about that.

1489
01:05:30,718 --> 01:05:32,787
As for what happened
with Buzzy's clothes,

1490
01:05:32,887 --> 01:05:36,207
Robin Lopez confirmed me in 2019

1491
01:05:36,307 --> 01:05:37,834
who are now back where they belong.

1492
01:05:37,934 --> 01:05:39,293
You know,
every time you have a celebrity

1493
01:05:39,393 --> 01:05:41,420
involved in a scandal, then instantly

1494
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,923
people pay more attention to it.

1495
01:05:44,023 --> 01:05:47,903
I tried to go home and there was

1496
01:05:48,819 --> 01:05:50,596
reporters in my house,

1497
01:05:50,696 --> 01:05:54,267
and that was probably one of
the worst nights of my life

1498
01:05:54,367 --> 01:05:55,101
to be honest.

1499
01:05:55,201 --> 01:05:57,204
Like I didn't know what to do.

1500
01:05:57,662 --> 01:05:59,146
I didn't know what I was going to do.

1501
01:05:59,246 --> 01:06:02,692
I had gotten myself into something bigger than I could handle and I,

1502
01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:04,878
You know, it wasn't great.

1503
01:06:06,253 --> 01:06:07,446
- Ready?
- Yes.

1504
01:06:10,995 --> 01:06:12,026
- How are you?
- Hello.

1505
01:06:12,156 --> 01:06:13,286
-Patrick.
- What's happening?

1506
01:06:13,386 --> 01:06:14,896
- Go outside.
- Get out.

1507
01:06:20,434 --> 01:06:21,711
I arrest you.

1508
01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:22,962
We have an arrest warrant for you.

1509
01:06:23,062 --> 01:06:23,921
Brilliant.

1510
01:06:24,021 --> 01:06:26,674
A former Disney employee was
arrested earlier this year.

1511
01:06:26,774 --> 01:06:28,843
He is accused of stealing and reselling

1512
01:06:28,943 --> 01:06:30,928
thousands of dollars worth of items.

1513
01:06:31,028 --> 01:06:31,721
Because?

1514
01:06:31,821 --> 01:06:34,015
Due to the high demand
on the black market.

1515
01:06:34,115 --> 01:06:36,726
Stealing from
happiest place on Earth.

1516
01:06:36,826 --> 01:06:37,560
Check it out right here.

1517
01:06:37,660 --> 01:06:40,605
Patrick Spikes used to work
at Walt Disney World.

1518
01:06:40,705 --> 01:06:43,065
My parents were on vacation somewhere

1519
01:06:43,165 --> 01:06:44,942
and they were in a restaurant,

1520
01:06:45,042 --> 01:06:49,030
and they saw my face on TV
above the bar, you know?

1521
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:51,324
On Fox News, for example.

1522
01:06:51,424 --> 01:06:54,076
And my dad said, "Oh, my God."

1523
01:06:54,176 --> 01:06:54,869
Caught on camera,

1524
01:06:54,969 --> 01:06:56,746
Orlando man fighting with police

1525
01:06:56,846 --> 01:06:59,040
after he refuses
hand over your cell phone.

1526
01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:01,876
Patrick Allen Spikes, 24,
He is accused of burglary,

1527
01:07:01,976 --> 01:07:04,378
grand theft,
and trafficking in stolen goods.

1528
01:07:04,478 --> 01:07:05,212
If found guilty,

1529
01:07:05,312 --> 01:07:07,298
faces up to 30 years in prison.

1530
01:07:07,398 --> 01:07:11,802
You know, I talked to him, Patrick,

1531
01:07:11,902 --> 01:07:16,867
and I told him

1532
01:07:17,158 --> 01:07:19,185
that when you start to steal,

1533
01:07:19,285 --> 01:07:20,853
you cross the line.

1534
01:07:20,953 --> 01:07:24,357
And I told him:
"Dude, I don't think you should do that."

1535
01:07:24,457 --> 01:07:25,900
That's all I said, I think it was:

1536
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,109
"I don't think you should do that,"

1537
01:07:27,209 --> 01:07:29,528
and I didn't want to see any more of that.

1538
01:07:29,628 --> 01:07:30,664
I don't know.

1539
01:07:32,214 --> 01:07:34,450
I'm not Mr. Moral Police or anything,

1540
01:07:34,550 --> 01:07:39,497
but it seems that you are going to
Fuck yourself, you know?

1541
01:07:39,597 --> 01:07:41,958
And I guess that's what happened to him.

1542
01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:44,061
I haven't spoken to him since.

1543
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:48,381
I wish you luck, but damn, dude.

1544
01:07:48,481 --> 01:07:50,633
I never thought that
it would end like this.

1545
01:07:50,733 --> 01:07:53,010
I thought maybe one day they would catch me

1546
01:07:53,110 --> 01:07:55,054
dating something,
but I never thought

1547
01:07:55,154 --> 01:07:57,682
that would become
this great research.

1548
01:07:57,782 --> 01:07:58,724
Was he right?

1549
01:07:58,824 --> 01:08:00,202
Absolutely not.

1550
01:08:01,368 --> 01:08:04,105
If I could come back and beat myself up
when I was 12 years old

1551
01:08:04,205 --> 01:08:06,273
and pay for that bottle of water, I would.

1552
01:08:06,373 --> 01:08:09,986
But, you know, you can't change your life.

1553
01:08:10,086 --> 01:08:11,821
You have to keep going and keep writing.

1554
01:08:11,921 --> 01:08:13,030
That's what you do.

1555
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:15,574
Patrick Spikes faced five felonies,

1556
01:08:15,674 --> 01:08:17,493
his cousin faced three.

1557
01:08:17,593 --> 01:08:19,203
But now, after this morning's statement

1558
01:08:19,303 --> 01:08:22,289
taken here at the courthouse in downtown Orlando,

1559
01:08:22,389 --> 01:08:23,958
face years of probation

1560
01:08:24,058 --> 01:08:25,543
and pay restitution.

1561
01:08:25,643 --> 01:08:27,336
Do you understand that
declare today

1562
01:08:27,436 --> 01:08:29,630
are you giving up these rights?

1563
01:08:29,730 --> 01:08:30,589
Mr. Taunton?

1564
01:08:30,689 --> 01:08:31,424
Yes, ma'am.

1565
01:08:31,524 --> 01:08:32,425
- Mr. Spikes.
Yes, ma'am.

1566
01:08:32,525 --> 01:08:33,592
By giving up the opportunity

1567
01:08:33,692 --> 01:08:35,052
that they were acquitted in court

1568
01:08:35,152 --> 01:08:36,929
for the serious crime charges against him,

1569
01:08:37,029 --> 01:08:39,724
Spikes and Taunton
They pleaded not guilty.

1570
01:08:39,824 --> 01:08:40,975
Taunton was sentenced

1571
01:08:41,075 --> 01:08:43,102
to five years of probation.

1572
01:08:43,202 --> 01:08:45,855
Spikes, who is accused of
sell stolen goods,

1573
01:08:45,955 --> 01:08:48,149
He received a sentence of 10 years of probation.

1574
01:08:48,249 --> 01:08:49,442
I think some people might say

1575
01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:51,986
who got away with it very
easy because his parole

1576
01:08:52,086 --> 01:08:55,406
was also shortened
from 10 years to five years.

1577
01:08:55,506 --> 01:08:56,323
As part of the agreement,

1578
01:08:56,423 --> 01:09:01,120
Spikes agreed to pay more
of $25,000 in restitution,

1579
01:09:01,220 --> 01:09:03,664
and both men have been permanently banned

1580
01:09:03,764 --> 01:09:05,809
of all Disney properties.

1581
01:09:08,769 --> 01:09:12,732
Honestly, I'm excited to
Be part of Epcot history.

1582
01:09:14,066 --> 01:09:15,760
Disney believes that its legends

1583
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:17,511
They are the imagineers and the people,

1584
01:09:17,611 --> 01:09:19,138
but there are other Disney legends,

1585
01:09:19,238 --> 01:09:21,682
you know, like local legends.

1586
01:09:21,782 --> 01:09:25,537
Like Leonard Kinsey, Adam The Woo,

1587
01:09:26,579 --> 01:09:28,105
Hoot and Chief,

1588
01:09:28,205 --> 01:09:31,692
and now I, and indeed it could be

1589
01:09:31,792 --> 01:09:33,736
now the biggest Disney legend.

1590
01:09:33,836 --> 01:09:35,988
I'm sorry,
but I think I may have accidentally

1591
01:09:36,088 --> 01:09:37,740
surpassed my mentors.

1592
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,201
How did it go, friend?

1593
01:09:40,301 --> 01:09:41,503
Anything you want to say?

1594
01:09:43,012 --> 01:09:44,747
I'm going to Disney World.

1595
01:09:44,847 --> 01:09:45,831
Are you going to Disney World?

1596
01:09:45,931 --> 01:09:46,999
Why did you return to Disney?

1597
01:09:47,099 --> 01:09:51,420
But also, to be honest,
I stole much cooler things

1598
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,881
for which they never caught me,

1599
01:09:53,981 --> 01:09:56,675
and no one even knows about them

1600
01:09:56,775 --> 01:09:59,011
because I never spoke about it publicly,

1601
01:09:59,111 --> 01:10:01,263
and to be honest,

1602
01:10:01,363 --> 01:10:02,490
I probably never will.

1603
01:10:03,365 --> 01:10:05,726
There are many more great things.

1604
01:10:05,826 --> 01:10:08,330
Use your imagination.

1605
01:10:08,704 --> 01:10:10,940
I think the real mystery
is what happened to Buzzy?

1606
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,235
Disney hasn't said much,
have not issued

1607
01:10:14,335 --> 01:10:16,487
no public statement on this case.

1608
01:10:16,587 --> 01:10:19,073
You know, Buzzy is obvious.

1609
01:10:19,173 --> 01:10:23,410
That thing, if you haven't already,
has been dismantled

1610
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:27,206
and destroyed and discarded
to erase it from the map.

1611
01:10:27,306 --> 01:10:28,499
They will never find it.

1612
01:10:28,599 --> 01:10:30,459
You will never find it in
Some rich guy's collection.

1613
01:10:30,559 --> 01:10:32,979
It's over.
And that's all.

1614
01:10:33,812 --> 01:10:35,214
People think I stole Buzzy.

1615
01:10:35,314 --> 01:10:37,091
They say, oh, Patrick has Buzzy.

1616
01:10:37,191 --> 01:10:39,677
You know, no, I don't have it.

1617
01:10:39,777 --> 01:10:42,721
And to be honest, Buzzy, it's not that great.

1618
01:10:42,821 --> 01:10:45,558
They offered me 75,000 for the redhead.

1619
01:10:45,658 --> 01:10:48,769
That's because she's the damn redhead,
you know?

1620
01:10:48,869 --> 01:10:51,939
But Buzzy was in the dark for like 10 years,

1621
01:10:52,039 --> 01:10:54,066
and no one gave a shit.

1622
01:10:54,166 --> 01:10:56,861
When the animatronic was stolen,

1623
01:10:56,961 --> 01:11:00,447
That gave him a whole new wave of
popularity to attraction.

1624
01:11:00,547 --> 01:11:01,657
That's when it got interesting.

1625
01:11:01,757 --> 01:11:02,992
I don't know if it was ever interesting

1626
01:11:03,092 --> 01:11:04,577
in the 80s and 90s.

1627
01:11:04,677 --> 01:11:05,661
Did anyone ever care?

1628
01:11:05,761 --> 01:11:08,330
No, they only cared about him.
when it was supposedly stolen

1629
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:10,499
or did everyone start
to make videos about him.

1630
01:11:10,599 --> 01:11:12,042
That's when Buzzy became cool.

1631
01:11:12,142 --> 01:11:12,877
Free Buzzy!

1632
01:11:12,977 --> 01:11:14,920
Who the fuck is Buzzy, man?

1633
01:11:15,020 --> 01:11:16,088
Nobody cares.

1634
01:11:16,188 --> 01:11:17,798
Yes there is still
people who remember Buzzy.

1635
01:11:17,898 --> 01:11:19,675
There are still people who cared.

1636
01:11:19,775 --> 01:11:20,819
I mean, I cared.

1637
01:11:21,735 --> 01:11:23,345
He sat there for a long time.

1638
01:11:23,445 --> 01:11:26,140
Everyone wanted to point at Patrick.

1639
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:27,850
I just don't think I did.

1640
01:11:27,950 --> 01:11:29,685
There is a story with Patrick,

1641
01:11:29,785 --> 01:11:32,271
how could he get
that people entered through the access

1642
01:11:32,371 --> 01:11:33,397
behind the building.

1643
01:11:33,497 --> 01:11:37,109
If he had any involvement
when Buzzy was retired,

1644
01:11:37,209 --> 01:11:38,569
it would probably be someone

1645
01:11:38,669 --> 01:11:40,529
whom he was able to make enter through the access

1646
01:11:40,629 --> 01:11:42,281
to that service road.

1647
01:11:42,381 --> 01:11:45,826
I was the heart of the community
from the black market for a while,

1648
01:11:45,926 --> 01:11:49,330
and there was no talk of stealing Buzzy.

1649
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:51,457
It was talked about
steal many other things,

1650
01:11:51,557 --> 01:11:53,375
but never from the animatronic.

1651
01:11:53,475 --> 01:11:56,712
People wanted his clothes,
people wanted the boots.

1652
01:11:56,812 --> 01:11:58,589
He was also wearing a green romper.

1653
01:11:58,689 --> 01:11:59,707
People wanted that.

1654
01:12:03,402 --> 01:12:04,654
Not really.

1655
01:12:06,739 --> 01:12:10,559
I mean, he told me that
someone offered to pay him

1656
01:12:10,659 --> 01:12:15,231
$50,000 months before
the animatronic would disappear.

1657
01:12:15,331 --> 01:12:17,316
And I said, “$50,000?

1658
01:12:17,416 --> 01:12:18,918
It's a lot of money, but."

1659
01:12:22,463 --> 01:12:23,906
What the fuck, Matt?

1660
01:12:24,006 --> 01:12:25,717
I mean, just think about it.

1661
01:12:26,884 --> 01:12:30,079
You know,
Patrick didn't get the clothes for himself.

1662
01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:31,914
Someone wanted them.

1663
01:12:32,014 --> 01:12:37,020
You know, probably maybe
the same person, you know,

1664
01:12:37,353 --> 01:12:38,337
was the one who asked him.

1665
01:12:38,437 --> 01:12:41,465
I don't know who asked him
to go look for the animatronic.

1666
01:12:41,565 --> 01:12:45,761
He never asked me
and I never bothered to ask more details.

1667
01:12:45,861 --> 01:12:48,055
But, you know,
It only makes sense if, you know,

1668
01:12:48,155 --> 01:12:52,643
If you're here saying,
"Hey Matt, go get that hat,

1669
01:12:52,743 --> 01:12:57,415
go get those gloves,
go for the shoes, go for his glasses."

1670
01:12:58,499 --> 01:13:00,985
what the fuck do you think
What's going to happen next?

1671
01:13:01,085 --> 01:13:02,945
He's going to say, "Go get the damn kid."

1672
01:13:03,045 --> 01:13:05,864
Bring the child!
Bring it to me!

1673
01:13:05,964 --> 01:13:07,574
Some rich guy is sitting there

1674
01:13:07,674 --> 01:13:09,368
with Buzzy, relaxing.

1675
01:13:09,468 --> 01:13:12,579
I know some people who know
exactly what happened to him.

1676
01:13:12,679 --> 01:13:14,182
You interviewed one of them,

1677
01:13:15,599 --> 01:13:19,354
so he won't tell anyone.

1678
01:13:21,230 --> 01:13:22,840
No, that's all.

1679
01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:24,401
That's the end of that story.

1680
01:13:25,818 --> 01:13:26,677
You can go now.

1681
01:13:26,777 --> 01:13:28,345
Thank you.

1682
01:13:28,445 --> 01:13:29,480
You are welcome.