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When I put on a red pantsuit
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that's bad.
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So I watch my calories.
That's good.
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There's only 2 calories
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in a big, bubbly 8‐ounce
glass of Fresca.
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No sugar. No saccharinates.
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It's an honest to goodness...
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diet soft drink.
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I like Fresca.
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The picture from Vietnam today
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There are now four areas of...
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Good evening.
Schlafly residence.
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Phyllis speaking.
Hello. It's Ann
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from Oklahoma City.
Ann Patterson?
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Oh! Ann, of course. Ann.
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Good to hear from you.
Did you have a nice Easter?
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Oh, miraculous.
A true Easter resurrection.
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Phyllis, we did it.
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We defeated
the Equal Rights Amendment
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in the Sooner State.
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You did that.
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Well, they jammed it
through the Senate
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with just a voice vote,
no hearing,
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but we were able to keep it
from being passed in the House,
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and all thanks to that
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one little article
in your newsletter.
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I handed it to every legislator.
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Oh, well, that's swell, Ann.
I couldn't be more proud.
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So now I'm thinking I should
call our friends in other states
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and encourage them
to do the same.
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It's a winnable fight.
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Yes, well, in Oklahoma.
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Can you send me copies
of your mailing list?
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Roger!
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I'm‐‐I'm sorry, Ann. I am
gonna have to call you back.
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I have children
crawling all over me.
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Oh, of course.
Mm‐hmm. all right.
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Good to talk to you.
Okay, then‐‐
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It's taken me years
to build up my mailing list.
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That's my network.
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You know, and the fact that
Ann doesn't understand that
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suggests she doesn't know
a whole lot about politics.
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Are those Mother's boxes?
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Well, they‐‐they go
in the guest room.
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No, my‐‐my list is valuable.
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I thought you said
she was moving in here.
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No, John might move back
after graduation.
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No, I'm the one who developed
the arguments in my newsletter.
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All she did was hand it out.
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I'm supposed to let her run
with it.
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Well, if you're gonna run
with it,
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you better do it fast
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before it's ratified
in your home state
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and you lose all credibility.
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That would be an embarrassment.
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I wanted to stay in St. Louis,
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and you had to drag me
across the Mississippi.
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It's a better view
of the Mississippi,
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and I dragged you?
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Well, you saved me.
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I am gonna have to stop
the ERA being ratified here.
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Well, Illinois is not Oklahoma.
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No, yeah, yeah,
it's a long shot.
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It's the home of Adlai Stevenson
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and Daley's Chicago machine.
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Well, you‐‐you never know.
Um, you know, the one thing
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I've got going for me is the
feminists think it's settled.
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They‐‐They're not expecting
a fight.
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The other thing you've got
going for you is, uh,
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no one likes feminists,
not even liberals.
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Oh, that's true.
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They're no fun.
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Wouldn't you attract
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a wider readership if you put
Jane Fonda or Lauren Hutton
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on the very first cover
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instead of this octopus lady
with face paint?
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It is not an octopus lady.
It is the Hindu goddess Kali,
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and those are tears
streaming down her face
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because she has to juggle
all the demands
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of her work and marriage.
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If "Ms." is almost
exclusively written
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by, for, and about women,
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isn't it as one‐dimensional
as "Playboy"?
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Is that a serious question?
You don't think that's a drag?
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I think "Playboy" is a drag.
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Are you worried that
the provocative ad on abortion
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will alienate women
in the middle of America?
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A majority of people
in this country
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support every woman's right
to control her own body.
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Until we have that right,
we can never truly be equal.
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Thank you, everyone. Thank you.
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Ms. Steinem! Ms. Steinem!
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They were itty‐bitty,
so I got two.
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Look.
Oh, Gloria!
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I walked past Andy Warhol.
He didn't even say hello.
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You did represent
Valerie Solanas.
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Not that well.
The girl got three years.
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What did that taxi driver
in Boston say to us...
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Ms. Steinem...
about if men got pregnant?
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Uh...
"If men could get pregnant,
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abortion would be a sacrament."
Oh! I couldn't remember it.
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You should put a pregnant
Nixon on your next cover.
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I'm putting Shirley
on my next cover.
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I will drink to that.
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Ms. Steinem, can I ask you
one last question,
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if you don't mind?
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Uh, Betty Friedan,
in a speech yesterday said,
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"Gloria has never been part
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"of the organized
women's liberation movement.
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"The media tried to make her
a celebrity,
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but no one should mistake her
for a leader."
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Any comment?
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If I have a lot of problems
with my being a leader
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in the women's movement,
I'm sure she has a lot more.
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Great party, Gloria.
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We can't get distracted by her.
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We got a lot of momentum
going into the conventions.
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The candidates recognize that
we're a real political force.
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Even McGovern's agreed
to sit down with us.
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But we need a face‐‐
a pretty face.
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Is that my only value
to the movement?
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No, we need your tits and ass,
too.
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I don't want people
listening to me
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just because I have
a pretty face.
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I would love it
if people listened to me
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because I have a pretty face.
Then I wouldn't have to shout.
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Who cares why they're listening?
They're listening.
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You think Kennedy agonized
over whether he beat Nixon
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because of his looks?
No, he thought,
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"I can't believe
I get to be president
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and shtup Marilyn Monroe."
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Can I get a photo with you?
Excuse me.
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We're having
a private conversation.
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That was one
of our biggest advertisers.
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You wanna make abortion legal,
this is how you do it.
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Play the game. Hold McGovern's
feet to the fire.
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Is he waffling?
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He told me he believes it's
every woman's personal decision.
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Well, now he believes
he's the front runner
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and needs to move to the center
to beat Nixon
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in the general election.
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And you wonder why
I can't stand politics?
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Can I get back to my party now?
Go.
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How you doing?
All right.
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Can you stay over tonight?
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Yeah, but I have to leave early.
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Got the kids in the morning.
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You came.
I even had time to bake.
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Well, actually,
it's leftover from Easter.
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I won't tell if you won't tell.
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For today's study section,
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I chose Father Collins' talk
from our annual conference.
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It's about
the Marxist revolutionaries
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who instigated
the Attica prison uprising.
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These riots are all a part
of the New Left campaign
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to undermine American prisons.
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The world's going to hell
in a handbag.
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You know, I read, uh, recently,
that Angela Davis declared
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that if she were free,
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her first goal would be to
abolish America's prison system.
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For those of you who
aren't familiar...
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Mm‐hmm.
Angela Davis is
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the Black Panther militant
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on trial for murder
in California.
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Yeah, so even though she has
admitted to being a member
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of the Communist Party,
there are members of Congress
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who publicly support her,
like Shirley Chisholm.
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And, uh, Gloria Steinem
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is listed as the treasurer
of her defense fund.
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They're all connected,
and they have so much money
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and political power.
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And maybe we'll devote
next month's study session
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to the women's liberation
movement.
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Could we devote
this session to it?
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Prisons are depressing.
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I thought your newsletter
on the dangers
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of the Equal Rights Amendment
was fantastic.
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I immediately called both
our senators,
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but it made it through Congress
anyway.
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I did, too. I fear
we got started too late.
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Oh, it's not too late
to stop it.
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If the ERA is not ratified
by 38 states
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by March 22, 1979, it will die.
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That seems like enough time.
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Well, we can't let it
get ratified.
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Well, we do have our work
cut out for us.
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See, the women's liberation
movement has convinced everybody
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it's a bipartisan issue.
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So we need to get
the word out fast
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that it is controversial
and that we homemakers
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are not being represented.
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You know, we need to
make some noise
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and get the media
to pay attention to us.
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The person that everybody's
paying attention to always wins.
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That would be Gloria Steinem.
She's famous.
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They're all famous.
We're nobodies.
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Even if we could get
a news program
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to give us some air time,
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who would we send on
as our guest?
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Phyllis is famous.
Only in conservative circles.
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No offense.
Oh, none taken.
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You're judged by the company
you keep.
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Maybe you should
be the spokesman, Alice,
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since you're
a full‐time homemaker.
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Oh. No.
I'm happy to do it.
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Mm‐hmm.
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The thing about public speaking
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is that it's harder
than it looks.
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There are some tricks
to make it look easy.
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I agree. Phyllis has the most
experience. She should do it.
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Well, all right. Well, I will,
uh, send you all the phone tree
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to kickstart a telegram
and letter writing campaign
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to our representatives.
I mean, you know the drill.
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All:
Telephone and tell a friend.
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It will be very much like
the brilliant campaign
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that Eleanor led against "Hair"
a couple of months ago.
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That was a battle.
Mm.
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You know, and I think
the trouble was
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that there are two very catchy
songs in the show.
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So people would hear the music
for "Aquarius"
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and "Let the Sunshine In,"
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they think it was just like
"Oklahoma!"
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It's Phyllis Schlafly.
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Yeah I'm calling about...
I'm calling about
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the upcoming vote in Springfield
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on the ratification...
the ratification
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of the Equal Rights Amendment.
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Yes, we're organizing a campaign
to write letters.
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Hi, Joan. It's Pamela.
We are organizing
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a letter writing campaign...
And we are calling
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and writing letters
to our legislators...
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We're organizing a campaign
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to urge them to vote "no,"
and we could use your help.
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Hi, Patricia. It's Pamela.
Melody?
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Barbara.
Sharon?
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When are we supposed
to make all these calls?
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Can you put your kids to bed
a half‐hour early?
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Or better yet,
put your husband to bed
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a half‐hour early.
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I knock off a few letters
after everyone's asleep.
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How are we doing?
Hmm. Yes. I understand.
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You've heard it?
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I've been holding
for some time now.
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Well, you tell Dick Cavett that
the media has a responsibility
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to present the other side.
It's a rule. It's called the...
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Fairness doctrine.
The fairness doctrine.
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Mom?
No running, please!
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I need help
with my math homework.
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I'll help him.
Drill his times tables!
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Who wants more coffee?
Oh, I shouldn't, but...
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Thank you, Leonia.
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I'm going to the post office.
Give me your letters.
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Last call for the post office.
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How many have we got?
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Yes. We will be in touch.
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We got invited
on "The Phil Donahue Show."
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Aah!
We got...
258
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Oh, that is so good!
259
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This is it. Are you nervous?
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Can I push the button
on the elevator?
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Mm‐hmm. Come on.
262
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We're all just
kind of piled in here.
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Can we find Margaret
an empty desk?
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Will a delivery box do?
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We're, uh, we're gonna get
some more furniture soon.
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Come through.
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"Ms. Magazine."
No, M‐s, "Mizz."
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This is our tot lot,
but we're cool with the kids,
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you know, running around.
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Would you like to play here
while Mommy gets to work?
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Oh, come on. You'll have fun.
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Gloria, we‐‐we can't run
with this cover.
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He asked me to show it to him.
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I'm already giving you
a lesbian article.
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Oh, you're giving it to me?
Thank you.
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We put Shirley Chisholm
on the cover,
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and we'll depress sales,
especially in the South.
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Well, we don't put her
on the cover, it'll depress me.
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You wanna piss off
your distribution company
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and sales team?
They work for us.
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This issue hits the newsstands
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right before
the Democratic Convention.
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I wanna put Shirley
on our cover.
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What about Mary's idea
for the cover‐‐
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Wonder Woman? She's a strong
symbol of woman's power.
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Wonder Woman's my idol,
287
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but you know she's not
a real person.
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She's better than a real person.
289
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She's a superhero,
and she's got great legs.
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We're going with this cover.
Oh, I see.
291
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You wanna be the only one
around here with great legs.
292
00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:10,203
I gave Gloria
her first bylined assignment
293
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because I saw her standing
outside my office one day,
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and I thought she had
great legs.
295
00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:18,545
Clay.
What? It's a great story.
296
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It's a great story.
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He's the money guy.
Come through here.
298
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Yes, Mrs. Schlafly,
I did get your mail.
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Oh, good. Now do you have
a television in your office?
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Of course I have a television
in my office.
301
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Well, turn it on at 12:00
to channel 5.
302
00:16:42,002 --> 00:16:43,469
What am I watching?
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The other side
of the ERA debate.
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Can we get a TV in here?
305
00:16:52,813 --> 00:16:54,515
Would you please
welcome to the show
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conservative author and activist
Mrs. Phyllis Schlafly?
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00:17:18,438 --> 00:17:20,040
Now the Equal Rights Amendment
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will positively make women
subject to the draft
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on an equal basis with the men.
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00:17:25,946 --> 00:17:28,414
They have got to the point
where they truly believe
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that men and women are the same,
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so it's not enough for them
to have the right to work.
313
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They want to legislate away
any differences
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between men and women,
which will mean
315
00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:39,826
goodbye, Girl Scouts,
and hello, unisex bathrooms.
316
00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:41,638
The ERA doesn't say that
men and women are the same.
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It says that they're entitled
to equal protection
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under the law.
319
00:17:45,165 --> 00:17:47,033
What, did you drag her out
of the dust bins
320
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,045
of the Goldwater campaign so you
could hide under her skirt?
321
00:17:49,069 --> 00:17:50,704
She found me.
322
00:17:50,771 --> 00:17:52,181
You promised that you weren't
gonna fight us on this.
323
00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:54,140
I changed my mind.
324
00:17:54,207 --> 00:17:55,607
But we had enough votes
to ratify.
325
00:17:55,642 --> 00:17:57,744
I want a public hearing
before the vote.
326
00:17:57,811 --> 00:18:00,747
So suddenly you don't mind
looking like you hate women.
327
00:18:00,814 --> 00:18:03,416
I don't hate women.
I love women,
328
00:18:03,483 --> 00:18:07,220
which is why I wanna protect
my female constituents
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00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:08,722
from the dangers of the ERA.
330
00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:10,791
And you tell me
that's liberation?
331
00:18:10,857 --> 00:18:13,827
Why, that isn't liberation.
Liberation's in the home.
332
00:18:20,634 --> 00:18:22,244
When I heard
former Goldwater supporter,
333
00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:25,772
I thought, "what a bore,"
but she's a dynamo.
334
00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:27,874
Not bad‐lookin'.
It was a good show.
335
00:18:27,941 --> 00:18:29,776
You know what'd make
for a better show?
336
00:18:29,843 --> 00:18:31,588
Have her on with Gloria Steinem
or Betty Freidan.
337
00:18:31,612 --> 00:18:33,313
Oh, yeah, I don't think so.
338
00:18:33,379 --> 00:18:36,282
No, no, you get 'em together
debating, the catfights?
339
00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:39,452
It's ratings gold.
340
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,788
You were terrific.
Oh, thank you, Phil.
341
00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:47,628
I'm just a talk show host,
so what do I know?
342
00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:49,996
But, uh, some of the arguments
you made,
343
00:18:50,063 --> 00:18:51,974
I'm just wondering if you had
a chance before you came on
344
00:18:51,998 --> 00:18:55,135
to fact‐check?
Yes.
345
00:18:55,201 --> 00:18:57,604
So, for example, the elimination
346
00:18:57,671 --> 00:18:59,840
of separate restrooms...
Mm‐hmm.
347
00:18:59,906 --> 00:19:03,944
That seems highly unlikely
to happen if the ERA is adopted.
348
00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:05,812
Phil, let me ask you this.
349
00:19:05,879 --> 00:19:08,549
When Lenin started
the revolution in 1917,
350
00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:10,951
do you think he told the people,
"Fight with us,
351
00:19:11,017 --> 00:19:12,452
"and we'll give you
352
00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:14,621
food shortages, censorship,
and terror"?
353
00:19:14,688 --> 00:19:18,759
Oh, no. He promised them
peace, land, and bread.
354
00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:21,494
Now it starts with
a simple piece of legislation
355
00:19:21,562 --> 00:19:24,631
like the ERA, and then
the left feels emboldened
356
00:19:24,698 --> 00:19:26,733
to eliminate alimony,
child support,
357
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,903
and the widow's Social Security,
and before you know it,
358
00:19:29,970 --> 00:19:35,208
we are living in a feminist
totalitarian nightmare.
359
00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:38,278
Thank you for having me
on your show.
360
00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,222
You're Gloria Steinem.
361
00:19:49,289 --> 00:19:51,658
Yes.
362
00:19:51,725 --> 00:19:53,760
Lisa. How are you this morning?
363
00:19:53,827 --> 00:19:57,297
I'm... I'm wonderful. Oh,
I'm gonna move you to first.
364
00:19:57,363 --> 00:19:58,932
Oh, no. It's not necessary.
I‐‐
365
00:19:58,999 --> 00:20:01,234
I insist.
You will be more comfortable.
366
00:20:01,301 --> 00:20:02,903
Well, okay. Thank you.
367
00:20:02,969 --> 00:20:05,839
And I figure you and
Ms. Freidan wanna sit together.
368
00:20:08,809 --> 00:20:11,377
Hello, Betty.
369
00:20:13,947 --> 00:20:15,916
Thank you.
370
00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:18,685
Ow.
371
00:20:18,752 --> 00:20:24,224
Sorry. I'm so sorry.
372
00:20:32,098 --> 00:20:34,400
I was misquoted.
373
00:20:37,738 --> 00:20:39,740
People are always trying
to divide up women.
374
00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:43,977
Hmm? It's just another way
to take away our power.
375
00:20:44,044 --> 00:20:46,847
Well, I'm sorry the reporter
upset you.
376
00:20:48,582 --> 00:20:50,751
I also happened to say some
very nice things about you
377
00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:52,786
that maybe didn't get printed.
I said that, uh,
378
00:20:52,853 --> 00:20:56,289
you're a good role model
because you've never married,
379
00:20:56,356 --> 00:20:59,593
which shows you can be single
and still have a good life.
380
00:21:02,128 --> 00:21:04,998
They didn't print that.
381
00:21:38,064 --> 00:21:40,000
Food supplies
hurtled from the sky,
382
00:21:40,066 --> 00:21:44,505
and everyone scrambles to grab
whatever food he can.
383
00:21:44,571 --> 00:21:46,773
There are still wounded
from the fighting‐‐
384
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,743
men who wait every day in vain
for helicopters
385
00:21:49,810 --> 00:21:51,578
to take them to hospitals.
386
00:21:51,645 --> 00:21:53,814
The dead will remain in An Loc.
387
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,449
You don't know how serious
women are
388
00:21:56,517 --> 00:21:58,051
in this country, Senator.
389
00:21:58,118 --> 00:22:01,087
I couldn't be less enthusiastic
about your candidacy.
390
00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:04,024
Senator McGovern has been
very vocal on women's issues.
391
00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:06,827
I fully support
speedy ratification of the ERA.
392
00:22:06,893 --> 00:22:09,696
Everyone does.
Nixon supports the ERA,
393
00:22:09,763 --> 00:22:12,533
and you have to have more women
visible in your campaign
394
00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:15,569
because right now they're
just not there.
395
00:22:15,636 --> 00:22:17,237
Shirley MacLaine
notwithstanding.
396
00:22:17,303 --> 00:22:20,473
I think what Betty means
is that women aren't...
397
00:22:20,541 --> 00:22:22,175
always listened to,
398
00:22:22,242 --> 00:22:24,511
something you and I talked about
after New Hampshire,
399
00:22:24,578 --> 00:22:26,122
and you were going to impress
upon your staff
400
00:22:26,146 --> 00:22:28,815
the importance of taking
female campaign aides seriously.
401
00:22:28,882 --> 00:22:31,451
Thank you, Gloria,
and I have spoken with them.
402
00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:33,029
I think it's fair to say
the only place
403
00:22:33,053 --> 00:22:35,155
we really differ with you
is on abortion rights.
404
00:22:35,221 --> 00:22:38,024
And you've been saying some
ridiculous things lately.
405
00:22:38,091 --> 00:22:40,069
I'm afraid that's all the time
that we have for today,
406
00:22:40,093 --> 00:22:41,895
but thank you, ladies,
so much for coming in.
407
00:22:41,962 --> 00:22:44,330
Yes, thank you all very much.
Oh, no, Senator?
408
00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:47,400
The Senator has another meeting.
409
00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:49,870
George, George, if‐if I may.
410
00:22:49,936 --> 00:22:52,739
We can push and push
for legalizing abortion,
411
00:22:52,806 --> 00:22:54,617
but until it becomes
part of our party's platform,
412
00:22:54,641 --> 00:22:57,010
Congress will never feel
pressure to change the laws.
413
00:22:57,077 --> 00:22:58,555
If George even mentions
the word "abortion"
414
00:22:58,579 --> 00:23:00,113
at the convention,
415
00:23:00,180 --> 00:23:02,549
Nixon will hang it around
his neck like a millstone.
416
00:23:02,616 --> 00:23:03,693
So what if we use
a more general term,
417
00:23:03,717 --> 00:23:05,619
like "reproductive freedom"?
418
00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:07,363
It's broad enough to include
not just abortion
419
00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:11,892
but repeal birth control laws,
laws on sexual orientation,
420
00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:14,628
forced sterilization.
That's interesting.
421
00:23:14,695 --> 00:23:16,563
What I like about that, Senator,
422
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:20,033
is that it covers concerns
of men as well as women.
423
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,935
I wrote a version you could use.
424
00:23:22,002 --> 00:23:23,970
Can I see that?
425
00:23:28,208 --> 00:23:30,811
You got into this race
to get us out of the war.
426
00:23:30,877 --> 00:23:35,682
This is our Vietnam.
427
00:23:35,749 --> 00:23:37,851
Let me get back to you.
428
00:23:37,918 --> 00:23:39,461
You can reach me
at my hotel anytime tonight.
429
00:23:39,485 --> 00:23:43,156
I'll wait for your call.
Thank you, George.
430
00:23:55,502 --> 00:23:57,871
He's not gonna call.
431
00:23:59,873 --> 00:24:00,873
He's going to call.
432
00:24:05,178 --> 00:24:09,049
Oh, my God.
Gloria Steinem is tap dancing.
433
00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:10,917
It was how I earned money
when I was a kid‐‐
434
00:24:10,984 --> 00:24:13,554
performed at clubs
and supermarket openings.
435
00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:16,590
I was going to dance my way
out of Toledo.
436
00:24:18,424 --> 00:24:20,694
That was my great dream.
437
00:24:31,672 --> 00:24:33,807
Yes, this is Gloria.
438
00:24:38,812 --> 00:24:41,915
I‐I can't talk
right now. I'm, uh...
439
00:24:41,982 --> 00:24:45,085
I have to keep the line free.
440
00:24:47,253 --> 00:24:51,357
I'm trapped.
I'm waiting for a call.
441
00:24:52,726 --> 00:24:55,161
What are you up to tonight?
442
00:24:55,228 --> 00:24:57,631
Let's all go get a drink, yeah?
443
00:24:57,698 --> 00:24:59,666
Come on. Everyone out.
444
00:25:18,484 --> 00:25:20,253
You really can't leave
this room?
445
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,690
Well, now I don't wanna leave.
446
00:25:32,332 --> 00:25:33,667
How long do we have?
447
00:25:33,734 --> 00:25:35,636
Two hours before the last train.
448
00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:38,271
Okay, but if McGovern calls...
I know.
449
00:25:38,338 --> 00:25:42,142
You won't be mad?
Nah. I won't be mad.
450
00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:54,821
So are you gonna start
451
00:25:54,888 --> 00:25:56,165
with women in the draft
or the institution of marriage
452
00:25:56,189 --> 00:25:57,824
being eroded?
I haven't decided yet.
453
00:25:57,891 --> 00:25:59,459
You said you prepared
last night.
454
00:25:59,526 --> 00:26:03,930
I did prepare. You know
what we should do afterwards?
455
00:26:03,997 --> 00:26:06,432
We should stop by the Den
for a bowl of chili.
456
00:26:06,499 --> 00:26:09,002
Mm‐hmm.
Yeah, if there's time.
457
00:26:09,069 --> 00:26:10,537
Well, I‐I would lead
with the draft
458
00:26:10,604 --> 00:26:11,881
because I think
it's more emotional.
459
00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:13,473
Do you wanna testify
instead of me?
460
00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:16,342
Oh, I'm‐‐I'm not the expert
in constitutional law.
461
00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:18,779
I'm not the expert
in constitutional law.
462
00:26:18,845 --> 00:26:20,881
Yes, but you studied it
in law school.
463
00:26:20,947 --> 00:26:22,783
Now, the libbers
are sending in attorneys,
464
00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,685
and I think that we should have
465
00:26:24,751 --> 00:26:27,087
a handsome, brilliant one
on our side.
466
00:26:27,153 --> 00:26:28,955
I had to reschedule
a very important meeting
467
00:26:29,022 --> 00:26:30,323
because of this.
I know.
468
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:34,160
I'm so grateful you did.
You're my secret weapon.
469
00:26:34,227 --> 00:26:41,401
ERA now! ERA now!
ERA now! ERA now! ERA now!
470
00:26:41,467 --> 00:26:45,606
Our women do not consider
themselves enslaved by marriage,
471
00:26:45,672 --> 00:26:47,508
and they do not wish
to be liberated
472
00:26:47,574 --> 00:26:50,043
from home and motherhood,
473
00:26:50,110 --> 00:26:51,878
and they certainly do not want
to sacrifice
474
00:26:51,945 --> 00:26:53,914
any of their present privileges
475
00:26:53,980 --> 00:26:58,051
for some phony equality
with men.
476
00:26:58,118 --> 00:27:01,788
One side effect
of the Equal Rights Amendment
477
00:27:01,855 --> 00:27:03,323
would be that women...
478
00:27:03,389 --> 00:27:04,967
Where is the rest of your group?
479
00:27:04,991 --> 00:27:06,727
The Common Law right
to be supported...
480
00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:08,862
They're at home.
By their husbands.
481
00:27:08,929 --> 00:27:10,263
Do you see those two ladies?
482
00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:13,199
They're the sponsors
of the measure.
483
00:27:13,266 --> 00:27:16,436
They've been bringing in
hundreds of women here every day
484
00:27:16,503 --> 00:27:19,740
for the past month to lobby us.
They're winning.
485
00:27:19,806 --> 00:27:22,743
Oh. Well, it's a numbers game.
486
00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:24,545
Count the letters
and phone calls.
487
00:27:24,611 --> 00:27:26,813
Not when it's this emotional.
488
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,825
Oh. We're not about
to throw ourselves
489
00:27:28,849 --> 00:27:30,951
on the House floor.
490
00:27:31,017 --> 00:27:33,687
We're protesting with dignity.
491
00:27:33,754 --> 00:27:36,389
When my guys look out
into the gallery,
492
00:27:36,456 --> 00:27:38,568
which side do you think they're
gonna feel pressure from‐‐
493
00:27:38,592 --> 00:27:46,592
the hundreds of ladies screaming
for the ERA or dignity?
494
00:27:47,267 --> 00:27:52,372
Thus childcare centers could...
495
00:28:01,314 --> 00:28:03,349
I don't even know
where Springfield is.
496
00:28:03,416 --> 00:28:06,419
I've rented buses. You could
bring your children with you.
497
00:28:06,486 --> 00:28:09,255
They'll be educational.
498
00:28:10,791 --> 00:28:13,493
Look, the real power lies
in who shows up.
499
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,096
It's a numbers game,
so unless we outnumber them,
500
00:28:16,162 --> 00:28:18,362
the ERA will be ratified
right here in our own backyard.
501
00:28:18,398 --> 00:28:20,901
Even if we could get
a big group to show up tomorrow,
502
00:28:20,967 --> 00:28:23,504
we'd be too intimidated
to talk to legislators.
503
00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:25,906
Well, Fred,
m‐maybe you could, uh, come up
504
00:28:25,972 --> 00:28:27,541
with a few easy talking points.
505
00:28:27,608 --> 00:28:29,142
Huh? For what?
506
00:28:29,209 --> 00:28:32,078
For the rally before
the floor vote in the House.
507
00:28:32,145 --> 00:28:33,723
I'm sorry. I‐I didn't hear
what you said.
508
00:28:33,747 --> 00:28:34,981
I focused on that bread.
509
00:28:35,048 --> 00:28:37,651
It needs five minutes to cool.
510
00:28:37,718 --> 00:28:38,961
That does smell so good, Willie.
511
00:28:38,985 --> 00:28:41,922
I'll write the recipe down
for you.
512
00:28:41,988 --> 00:28:43,199
Every time I try to bake bread,
513
00:28:43,223 --> 00:28:45,926
it turns out soggy.
Mm‐hmm.
514
00:28:45,992 --> 00:28:47,369
You might not be giving it
enough time to rise.
515
00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,663
Yeah.
You're overworking the dough.
516
00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:51,998
Mm.
Or your oven isn't hot enough.
517
00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:53,366
You can't put it in too soon.
518
00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:55,001
Maybe you're using
too little yeast.
519
00:28:55,068 --> 00:28:57,504
Or it's gone bad?
Oh.
520
00:28:57,571 --> 00:28:58,972
Yeast doesn't bake.
521
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:02,242
Well, now I know
why he didn't call.
522
00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:04,845
Your wording made it
into the platform draft,
523
00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:06,813
but then Shirley MacLaine
cut it out.
524
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,882
She cut it out?
With actual scissors?
525
00:29:08,949 --> 00:29:10,483
Who does that?
526
00:29:10,551 --> 00:29:12,018
An actress.
527
00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:13,530
How are people supposed
to vote on our proposal
528
00:29:13,554 --> 00:29:16,389
if they can't see it?
529
00:29:16,456 --> 00:29:19,159
You don't seem too upset.
I'm very upset. Look at me.
530
00:29:19,225 --> 00:29:21,795
I'm eating a hot dog
on the grapefruit diet.
531
00:29:21,862 --> 00:29:24,030
So what do we do now?
532
00:29:24,097 --> 00:29:26,299
The Supreme Court will
consider Roe v. Wade soon.
533
00:29:26,366 --> 00:29:28,969
Let's hope for a good decision.
That won't be enough.
534
00:29:29,035 --> 00:29:32,205
I think we've gone as far
as we can go on this.
535
00:29:32,272 --> 00:29:34,508
Didn't help our cause that
McGovern felt attacked
536
00:29:34,575 --> 00:29:35,909
at the meeting.
537
00:29:35,976 --> 00:29:38,411
Betty is impossible.
538
00:29:38,478 --> 00:29:40,180
I'm gonna propose we elect
one spokeswoman
539
00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:42,583
to represent us
at each convention.
540
00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:45,251
So if Betty runs her mouth off
to McGovern's campaign
541
00:29:45,318 --> 00:29:48,288
or to the press, she's not
speaking for all of us.
542
00:29:48,354 --> 00:29:50,624
She'll just browbeat everyone
into voting for her.
543
00:29:50,691 --> 00:29:53,393
Unless you run against her.
544
00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:57,764
When I nominate you,
act surprised.
545
00:29:57,831 --> 00:29:59,733
Maybe have a few words prepared.
546
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,837
Nothing formal, but you should
have something to say.
547
00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:16,583
Have you been to the gallery?
Is it filled?
548
00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,786
To the rafters.
549
00:30:19,853 --> 00:30:21,454
Oh, wow. Look at this bread.
550
00:30:21,522 --> 00:30:23,322
What's the occasion?
I don't know. Birthday?
551
00:30:23,356 --> 00:30:24,958
Hmm.
552
00:30:25,025 --> 00:30:27,127
Good morning, Henry.
553
00:30:27,193 --> 00:30:28,595
Well, you're in a good mood.
554
00:30:28,662 --> 00:30:30,430
Well, why shouldn't I be
in a good mood?
555
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:32,365
We've got the votes.
We're voting today.
556
00:30:32,432 --> 00:30:33,767
Get ready to lose.
557
00:30:37,738 --> 00:30:39,039
Mmm.
558
00:30:41,174 --> 00:30:43,176
Mmm, this is delicious.
559
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,481
Why are you in a good mood?
560
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:52,118
Oh, just enjoying
watching you enjoy that bread.
561
00:30:52,185 --> 00:30:54,120
Why shouldn't I enjoy it?
562
00:31:02,128 --> 00:31:03,528
Enjoy the bread.
Vote "no" on ERA.
563
00:31:03,564 --> 00:31:05,732
From the breadmakers
to the breadwinners.
564
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,335
Vote "no."
Remember, vote "no."
565
00:31:09,402 --> 00:31:11,437
Don't forget to vote "no."
That's okay.
566
00:31:11,505 --> 00:31:13,106
We don't want
our daughters drafted.
567
00:31:13,173 --> 00:31:15,075
Preserve us
from this congressional jam.
568
00:31:15,141 --> 00:31:16,553
Thank you so much.
Vote against the ERA sham.
569
00:31:16,577 --> 00:31:18,579
From the breadmakers
to the breadwinners.
570
00:31:18,645 --> 00:31:20,213
Oh, thanks.
571
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,282
Make sure to vote no.
Don't forget to vote no!
572
00:31:25,185 --> 00:31:26,987
We don't want our daughters
drafted.
573
00:31:27,053 --> 00:31:28,097
Don't forget to vote "no"
on ERA.
574
00:31:28,121 --> 00:31:29,756
Got one right here.
575
00:31:37,864 --> 00:31:39,700
We might lose Illinois.
576
00:31:39,766 --> 00:31:42,803
What?
577
00:31:42,869 --> 00:31:44,571
I thought we had the votes.
578
00:31:44,638 --> 00:31:46,483
We had the votes, but then
this group showed up with bread,
579
00:31:46,507 --> 00:31:47,987
and suddenly we didn't have
the votes.
580
00:31:48,041 --> 00:31:50,544
What group?
Housewives with bread,
581
00:31:50,611 --> 00:31:53,479
and baked, you know, homemade.
582
00:31:53,547 --> 00:31:54,948
What kind of bread?
583
00:31:55,015 --> 00:31:57,150
What does it matter what kind?
I'm curious.
584
00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:59,152
Can we get Ginny Chapman
back on the phone?
585
00:31:59,219 --> 00:32:01,522
Find out what kind of bread
it was.
586
00:32:01,588 --> 00:32:03,990
Is that all it takes
to get a man to change his vote?
587
00:32:04,057 --> 00:32:07,160
Well, there was also jam.
588
00:32:07,227 --> 00:32:09,295
Oh, they finally found
the best smoke screen
589
00:32:09,362 --> 00:32:12,799
for their chauvinism.
Hmm? Women.
590
00:32:12,866 --> 00:32:18,238
ERA now!
ERA now! ERA now! ERA now!
591
00:32:18,304 --> 00:32:20,316
All right,
ladies, it's time to go in
592
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:22,175
and have our voices heard.
593
00:32:22,242 --> 00:32:25,345
These housewives are
the last gasp of the patriarchy,
594
00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:28,248
brainwashed to believe that
if they don't play the game,
595
00:32:28,314 --> 00:32:30,114
they will lose the love
and protection of men.
596
00:32:49,736 --> 00:32:52,372
May I just say,
vive la difference?
597
00:32:52,438 --> 00:32:56,476
I know these women.
I grew up with them in Peoria.
598
00:32:56,543 --> 00:32:58,712
They've never thought
of themselves as feminists.
599
00:32:58,779 --> 00:33:00,156
You know, they're not equipped
to earn a living.
600
00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:01,882
They're scared.
601
00:33:01,948 --> 00:33:04,417
No one is legislating that
they can't stay in the kitchen
602
00:33:04,484 --> 00:33:06,428
and bake bread all day
if that's what they want to do.
603
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:08,330
The problem is they're not
staying in the kitchen.
604
00:33:08,354 --> 00:33:09,499
They're bringing the bread
to the legislature.
605
00:33:09,523 --> 00:33:12,125
Who organized the housewives?
606
00:33:12,192 --> 00:33:14,460
That right wing nut.
607
00:33:14,528 --> 00:33:16,697
Phyllis Schlafly?
Ah.
608
00:33:16,763 --> 00:33:19,399
I saw her on "Donahue."
She was on "Donahue"?
609
00:33:19,465 --> 00:33:21,067
Yeah. Everything out
of her mouth was‐‐
610
00:33:21,134 --> 00:33:24,404
oh, it was all nonsense
but smart‐sounding.
611
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:29,275
We should be worried about her.
Mussolini was very popular.
612
00:33:29,342 --> 00:33:31,353
We have to just keep traveling
around the country,
613
00:33:31,377 --> 00:33:33,680
talking to them
until we get through.
614
00:33:33,747 --> 00:33:35,357
You already spend
half your time on the road.
615
00:33:35,381 --> 00:33:38,284
Telling them that
marriage is prostitution
616
00:33:38,351 --> 00:33:40,120
and that alimony
is war reparations.
617
00:33:40,186 --> 00:33:41,922
I mean, how have they
not been converted?
618
00:33:41,988 --> 00:33:43,990
All right, we could all be
a little more careful
619
00:33:44,057 --> 00:33:45,926
with our rhetoric.
620
00:33:45,992 --> 00:33:47,493
We do not want housewives
621
00:33:47,561 --> 00:33:48,929
thinking
that we are against them.
622
00:33:48,995 --> 00:33:50,463
We are against them.
623
00:33:51,832 --> 00:33:55,769
Revolutions are messy.
People get left behind.
624
00:33:55,836 --> 00:33:59,773
It's a tremendous victory for
the traditional American family
625
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,842
and, uh, for the institution
of marriage,
626
00:34:01,908 --> 00:34:06,246
which is the best deal for women
that the world has yet devised.
627
00:34:06,312 --> 00:34:08,915
We will get it ratified
next year.
628
00:34:08,982 --> 00:34:10,283
You just got lucky.
629
00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:11,694
What does she mean,
we got lucky?
630
00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:13,920
Thank you so much.
631
00:34:13,987 --> 00:34:16,523
Can I ask you something?
When you go on "Donahue,"
632
00:34:16,590 --> 00:34:18,467
do you know what you're saying
has no basis in fact,
633
00:34:18,491 --> 00:34:22,262
or do you just not know what
the hell you're talking about?
634
00:34:22,328 --> 00:34:23,706
Oh, I think the majority
of American women
635
00:34:23,730 --> 00:34:25,966
know exactly
what I'm talking about,
636
00:34:26,032 --> 00:34:27,500
and, I might add,
637
00:34:27,568 --> 00:34:29,503
the majority of
the Illinois state legislature.
638
00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:32,205
I read your newsletter.
639
00:34:32,272 --> 00:34:34,474
Hmm?
It's all hysteria and lies.
640
00:34:34,541 --> 00:34:37,310
Unisex bathrooms?
No child support?
641
00:34:37,377 --> 00:34:41,047
Girls in foxholes? Please.
642
00:34:41,114 --> 00:34:42,916
Do you understand
the first thing
643
00:34:42,983 --> 00:34:45,118
about constitutional law?
644
00:34:45,185 --> 00:34:47,688
Do you even have a law degree?
645
00:34:49,823 --> 00:34:52,626
I'm just getting started.
646
00:34:53,594 --> 00:34:55,328
This is a setback.
647
00:34:55,395 --> 00:34:58,298
But we have six more years
to get it ratified.
648
00:34:58,364 --> 00:35:01,501
We'll make a more concerted push
in Illinois next year.
649
00:35:01,568 --> 00:35:05,639
Moving on, it's time to choose
a spokeswoman to represent us
650
00:35:05,706 --> 00:35:07,240
at each convention.
651
00:35:07,307 --> 00:35:09,643
Well, I'd like to nominate
Jill for the Republican.
652
00:35:09,710 --> 00:35:12,445
I second.
I'm not sure that's necessary.
653
00:35:12,513 --> 00:35:14,247
I'm the only Republican woman
here today.
654
00:35:14,314 --> 00:35:16,650
And I'd like to nominate
myself for the Democrat‐‐
655
00:35:16,717 --> 00:35:18,318
You can't nominate yourself,
Betty.
656
00:35:18,384 --> 00:35:20,787
Before we get to electing
a spokeswoman,
657
00:35:20,854 --> 00:35:23,356
I‐I want to discuss making
another push for abortion
658
00:35:23,423 --> 00:35:24,791
at the convention.
659
00:35:24,858 --> 00:35:26,760
If we gather enough signatures
in a petition,
660
00:35:26,827 --> 00:35:28,094
we can force a floor vote.
661
00:35:28,161 --> 00:35:30,196
Which would mean being broadcast
662
00:35:30,263 --> 00:35:31,532
on national television.
663
00:35:31,598 --> 00:35:33,066
This might not be
the right time.
664
00:35:33,133 --> 00:35:34,701
Well, when is the right time?
665
00:35:34,768 --> 00:35:36,570
After we get McGovern
into the White House,
666
00:35:36,637 --> 00:35:38,238
we can control the‐‐
So, what, a year?
667
00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:39,816
If the ERA is safely
in the Constitution...
668
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,350
Two or‐‐or maybe a decade?
No, really, I wanna know.
669
00:35:41,374 --> 00:35:44,945
How‐‐How long are we
supposed to wait?
670
00:35:45,011 --> 00:35:47,881
How many more women are going to
die from botched abortions
671
00:35:47,948 --> 00:35:49,792
while we wait for men
to feel comfortable with us
672
00:35:49,816 --> 00:35:52,919
having control
over our own bodies?
673
00:35:52,986 --> 00:35:55,622
How many women are gonna be
forced to give birth to babies
674
00:35:55,689 --> 00:35:57,734
they can't afford to feed
while we wait for housewives,
675
00:35:57,758 --> 00:35:59,468
who have no idea what it's like
to have to work to survive,
676
00:35:59,492 --> 00:36:02,629
to feel comfortable with women
having power?
677
00:36:04,798 --> 00:36:08,234
How long do we give people
to adapt to change?
678
00:36:10,871 --> 00:36:14,340
Am I the only one who's
so fucking tired of waiting?
679
00:36:22,583 --> 00:36:27,320
We will make this our priority
after elections.
680
00:36:30,524 --> 00:36:32,258
Where are you going?
681
00:36:32,325 --> 00:36:33,860
I have to get back to New York.
682
00:36:33,927 --> 00:36:35,896
We haven't voted yet.
683
00:36:35,962 --> 00:36:37,798
I'm not running.
684
00:36:46,006 --> 00:36:48,241
Who wants to nominate me?
685
00:37:11,598 --> 00:37:14,635
Excuse me. Hi. Um...
686
00:37:14,701 --> 00:37:16,670
Sorry. I work in the building.
687
00:37:16,737 --> 00:37:18,414
I was hoping to run into you
one of these days
688
00:37:18,438 --> 00:37:21,675
so that you'd sign my copy
of the first issue.
689
00:37:22,843 --> 00:37:25,812
I'd be happy to.
What's your name?
690
00:37:25,879 --> 00:37:30,416
Theresa.
Oh, can you sign this page?
691
00:37:37,724 --> 00:37:40,627
How did you get all those famous
women to agree to sign it?
692
00:37:40,694 --> 00:37:45,866
That was easy. The hard part
was getting our male publisher
693
00:37:45,932 --> 00:37:47,868
to agree to run it.
694
00:37:54,508 --> 00:37:56,677
Have you ever told anyone?
695
00:37:58,545 --> 00:38:00,547
Only my husband.
696
00:38:02,983 --> 00:38:06,520
We already had three.
Money was tight.
697
00:38:06,587 --> 00:38:08,589
It was in a hotel.
698
00:38:08,655 --> 00:38:11,825
A whole bunch of us in one room.
699
00:38:15,395 --> 00:38:18,765
Sorry.
700
00:38:25,506 --> 00:38:26,940
Oh!
701
00:38:27,007 --> 00:38:28,384
There you go.
702
00:38:28,408 --> 00:38:31,277
I'd like to make three toasts.
703
00:38:31,344 --> 00:38:33,379
Roger.
To our eldest, John.
704
00:38:35,015 --> 00:38:39,085
We are so proud
of our first college graduate.
705
00:38:39,152 --> 00:38:40,320
Yeah.
Yeah.
706
00:38:40,386 --> 00:38:41,746
Don't even think
about moving home.
707
00:38:42,889 --> 00:38:45,358
And to my mother‐in‐law,
who will be gracing us
708
00:38:45,425 --> 00:38:47,127
with her lovely presence
every day.
709
00:38:47,193 --> 00:38:49,095
If I ever finish packing.
Cheers.
710
00:38:49,162 --> 00:38:50,296
Aw.
Hey, Grandma.
711
00:38:50,363 --> 00:38:52,365
And to my darling wife
712
00:38:52,432 --> 00:38:54,535
on her victory in Springfield
yesterday.
713
00:38:54,601 --> 00:38:55,845
I'm so proud of what
you accomplished.
714
00:38:55,869 --> 00:38:58,905
Aw, thank you.
Mwah. Hear, hear.
715
00:38:58,972 --> 00:39:00,817
All: Hear, hear.
Hear, hear, and it looks like
716
00:39:00,841 --> 00:39:03,677
we should also be toasting
Mayor Daley.
717
00:39:03,744 --> 00:39:06,012
Oh, what do you mean?
Well, it says here
718
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,313
Representative Chapman,
719
00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:09,249
the woman who sponsored
the ERA...
720
00:39:09,315 --> 00:39:10,684
Mm‐hmm.
Yes, I know who she is.
721
00:39:10,751 --> 00:39:12,328
She says the mayor had
an ax to grind with her.
722
00:39:12,352 --> 00:39:14,296
So he went and told his people
723
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,123
to vote against it. That's why
seven Democrats from Chicago
724
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:22,128
switched their vote
from "yes" to "no." Lucky.
725
00:39:22,195 --> 00:39:24,665
She's spinning tales so she
doesn't look incompetent.
726
00:39:24,731 --> 00:39:27,668
Hmm. Off you go.
727
00:39:27,734 --> 00:39:30,370
It was defeated by seven votes.
728
00:39:30,436 --> 00:39:33,306
A win's a win.
729
00:39:41,515 --> 00:39:42,592
I didn't want
to be elected spokeswoman.
730
00:39:42,616 --> 00:39:44,050
That's why I left.
731
00:39:44,117 --> 00:39:45,528
Which only made you
more attractive.
732
00:39:45,552 --> 00:39:47,788
We need you. Hold on.
733
00:39:52,859 --> 00:39:55,862
McGovern always says you
sold him on the women's issue.
734
00:39:55,929 --> 00:39:58,009
Well, then he shouldn't have
sold us out on abortion.
735
00:40:00,834 --> 00:40:03,737
I'm gonna go to the convention
with my press pass
736
00:40:03,804 --> 00:40:05,606
and my "Chisholm for President"
pin.
737
00:40:05,672 --> 00:40:07,884
Oh, don't give me that crap
about the power of the press,
738
00:40:07,908 --> 00:40:10,911
and Shirley is gonna be out of
the race by the convention.
739
00:40:10,977 --> 00:40:14,548
She got what, a dozen delegates?
740
00:40:15,949 --> 00:40:17,984
I gotta go.
741
00:40:21,321 --> 00:40:23,023
I'm still working.
742
00:40:24,024 --> 00:40:25,125
Hmm?
743
00:40:25,191 --> 00:40:27,027
I didn't know your mom
was a reporter.
744
00:40:27,093 --> 00:40:29,863
Oh, for "The Toledo Blade."
She quit after Sue was born.
745
00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:32,833
Hmm.
Have you read this interview?
746
00:40:32,899 --> 00:40:35,536
Oh, I don't need to read it.
I talk to her every day.
747
00:40:35,602 --> 00:40:39,706
Some of these quotes...
748
00:40:39,773 --> 00:40:42,909
"At first, when people would say
nasty things about Gloria,
749
00:40:42,976 --> 00:40:44,845
"I would take tranquilizers
and cry,
750
00:40:44,911 --> 00:40:49,282
but I've grown a lot lately,
and now I just laugh it off."
751
00:40:51,384 --> 00:40:52,929
You should read this.
I don't have time to get upset
752
00:40:52,953 --> 00:40:54,855
about my mother
telling the world
753
00:40:54,921 --> 00:40:56,523
she wishes I would find
a husband.
754
00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:58,358
So you did read it.
755
00:40:58,424 --> 00:41:00,202
Well, I got worried that she
was gonna say something crazy
756
00:41:00,226 --> 00:41:02,663
like, "I wish Gloria
would find a husband."
757
00:41:02,729 --> 00:41:04,965
Is that so crazy?
758
00:41:05,031 --> 00:41:06,232
Maybe next year.
759
00:41:06,299 --> 00:41:08,334
You know, we aren't getting
any younger.
760
00:41:08,401 --> 00:41:09,803
Nobody's getting any younger.
761
00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:11,047
5‐year‐old's aren't getting
any younger.
762
00:41:11,071 --> 00:41:12,539
So you don't wanna have a child?
763
00:41:12,606 --> 00:41:13,850
Well, I had a child‐‐ my mother.
764
00:41:13,874 --> 00:41:15,341
I must have done a terrible job,
too,
765
00:41:15,408 --> 00:41:17,544
because look how she turned out.
766
00:41:22,783 --> 00:41:26,219
Are you afraid that if you
marry me,
767
00:41:26,286 --> 00:41:28,054
you will turn into your mother?
768
00:41:28,121 --> 00:41:30,891
That's a horrible way
to propose.
769
00:41:32,826 --> 00:41:34,828
If I do it better next time,
770
00:41:34,895 --> 00:41:36,897
will you change your answer?
771
00:41:39,032 --> 00:41:42,803
Can we talk about this later
when I'm not meeting a deadline?
772
00:41:42,869 --> 00:41:45,672
Yeah.
I'll call you later, then.
773
00:41:56,449 --> 00:41:57,918
You can't put me off forever.
774
00:42:00,554 --> 00:42:04,157
Wonder Woman. Neat.
775
00:42:13,233 --> 00:42:16,069
George McGovern is
the front and only runner
776
00:42:16,136 --> 00:42:18,014
in the New York primary,
with all the advantages
777
00:42:18,038 --> 00:42:20,306
and handicaps
that usually means.
778
00:42:20,373 --> 00:42:22,408
His own congressional district
may have sacrificed
779
00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:25,111
a few delegates now for goodwill
780
00:42:25,178 --> 00:42:27,748
and a larger payoff
at the convention.
781
00:42:27,814 --> 00:42:29,325
Campaigning in New York,
McGovern has...
782
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:30,717
You got a few minutes?
783
00:42:30,784 --> 00:42:32,853
Well, can it wait
till after the news?
784
00:42:32,919 --> 00:42:35,756
Oh, you know how this ends.
They run McGovern.
785
00:42:35,822 --> 00:42:37,591
Nixon squeaks by,
and everybody's unhappy.
786
00:42:37,658 --> 00:42:39,392
Only gets you agitated.
787
00:42:43,129 --> 00:42:46,633
Now can you show me where
Freund draws a connection
788
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:48,902
between the ERA
and integrated public restrooms,
789
00:42:48,969 --> 00:42:50,804
prisons, and reform schools?
790
00:42:50,871 --> 00:42:53,473
Does it matter? We won.
I know.
791
00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:56,242
Just show me how he gets there.
792
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:57,678
Please.
793
00:42:59,345 --> 00:43:01,748
Just run me
through the legal arguments,
794
00:43:01,815 --> 00:43:03,159
so I don't have to bother you
each time.
795
00:43:03,183 --> 00:43:05,886
Well, I like it
when you bother me.
796
00:43:12,158 --> 00:43:14,427
You weren't the only one
who was admitted
797
00:43:14,494 --> 00:43:16,763
to Harvard Law School.
798
00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:19,099
Hmm? I was invited, too.
799
00:43:20,667 --> 00:43:21,868
When was that?
800
00:43:21,935 --> 00:43:23,469
When I was getting my master's.
801
00:43:23,537 --> 00:43:27,440
My constitutional law professor
thought I was brilliant.
802
00:43:30,043 --> 00:43:32,879
You really want a crash course
in legal research and writing?
803
00:43:32,946 --> 00:43:34,247
Mm‐hmm, yes.
Okay.
804
00:43:34,314 --> 00:43:35,982
Well, the first thing
you need to know
805
00:43:36,049 --> 00:43:38,819
when presenting
a legal argument is that, uh,
806
00:43:38,885 --> 00:43:40,921
while you have a lot of leeway
to be creative...
807
00:43:40,987 --> 00:43:42,556
Mm‐hmm.
You never want to make
808
00:43:42,623 --> 00:43:46,492
a statement which is objectively
verifiable as being false.
809
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,694
Okay.
For instance,
810
00:43:47,761 --> 00:43:49,229
you wouldn't say that you were
811
00:43:49,295 --> 00:43:51,732
invited to attend
Harvard Law School
812
00:43:51,798 --> 00:43:53,275
when it only takes a phone call
to find out
813
00:43:53,299 --> 00:43:57,638
that you got
your master's in 1945‐‐
814
00:43:57,704 --> 00:44:00,406
five years before the law school
went co‐ed.
815
00:44:05,111 --> 00:44:07,514
They would've made
an exception for me.
816
00:44:51,157 --> 00:44:52,959
Or three?
Or four?
817
00:44:53,026 --> 00:44:54,895
Or five?
Or maybe more.
818
00:45:40,741 --> 00:45:44,044
Where's your fiancé now?
819
00:45:44,110 --> 00:45:47,748
Ex‐fiancé.
No, he's back in the States.
820
00:45:47,814 --> 00:45:51,151
May I ask why you haven't
told him?
821
00:45:51,217 --> 00:45:53,720
We would have to get married.
822
00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:57,390
After the procedure,
there'll be a little bleeding.
823
00:45:57,457 --> 00:46:00,093
You'll be confined to bed
for a few days
824
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,320
until the bleeding stops.
I'll give you pills for that.
825
00:46:02,362 --> 00:46:06,066
And I hope you'll use
birth control in the future,
826
00:46:06,132 --> 00:46:08,368
especially if you plan to spend
the year in India.
827
00:46:10,671 --> 00:46:12,939
Thank you.
828
00:46:13,006 --> 00:46:15,208
You must promise me two things.
829
00:46:15,275 --> 00:46:18,912
You will never tell anyone
my name.
830
00:46:20,814 --> 00:46:25,118
And you will do what you want
to do with your life.
831
00:46:57,951 --> 00:46:59,720
You.
832
00:47:03,790 --> 00:47:05,659
I'll do it.
833
00:47:05,726 --> 00:47:07,661
I'll be the spokeswoman.
834
00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,198
On one condition.
835
00:47:12,265 --> 00:47:13,600
Okay.
836
00:47:13,667 --> 00:47:17,237
We force the vote on abortion
on the convention floor.