1 00:00:13,096 --> 00:00:14,681 WOMEN OF THE WORLD, UNITE! 2 00:00:15,933 --> 00:00:18,685 Join us! The female sisterhood is strong. 3 00:00:18,769 --> 00:00:21,021 Declaration of battle of the Women's Liberation Movement 4 00:00:21,104 --> 00:00:26,068 more than ten thousand militant feminists He called me to the 5th Avenue in New York 5 00:00:26,151 --> 00:00:29,196 held for equal rights for one-day strikes. 6 00:00:29,988 --> 00:00:33,659 At the end of the 60s and in the 70s women's movements 7 00:00:33,742 --> 00:00:37,663 many doors were opened for women, to decide 8 00:00:37,829 --> 00:00:39,498 that they just want to be. 9 00:00:40,165 --> 00:00:42,918 Equal rights in employment, equal respect, 10 00:00:43,001 --> 00:00:44,795 so that we are not just a piece of hair. 11 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:48,924 Greater independence and power the goal was to stick to us. 12 00:00:49,466 --> 00:00:52,886 It continues as a political coalition, to bring me to victory 13 00:00:52,970 --> 00:00:55,556 women's equality unfinished revolution. 14 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:58,350 Women were much freer. 15 00:00:58,433 --> 00:01:02,020 For example, hitchhiking was not a big deal. 16 00:01:02,104 --> 00:01:06,066 and since society was more open, 17 00:01:06,692 --> 00:01:10,195 crimes against women His kind began to spread. 18 00:01:11,321 --> 00:01:15,617 And on the northwestern coast of the country there was someone 19 00:01:15,993 --> 00:01:17,869 evil 20 00:01:18,495 --> 00:01:21,582 who did terrible things to women. 21 00:01:24,167 --> 00:01:28,714 Such a person Select the image with . 22 00:01:29,673 --> 00:01:32,217 The victims are attracted to young women. 23 00:01:33,844 --> 00:01:35,679 They own women; 24 00:01:35,971 --> 00:01:39,600 They are mostly subordinate to men. 25 00:01:40,517 --> 00:01:41,768 Women are frills. 26 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:43,645 XXX CATEGORY GIRLS 27 00:01:43,729 --> 00:01:47,649 Starting with porn, on Playboy until the evening weather. 28 00:01:49,526 --> 00:01:51,695 So the sexual content is indisputable. 29 00:01:51,862 --> 00:01:54,072 �what about sex� things are just a lot 30 00:01:54,156 --> 00:01:58,493 in a broader context gains importance. 31 00:01:59,536 --> 00:02:03,248 This is possession, control and violence. 32 00:02:08,503 --> 00:02:11,423 NETFLIX MAKES THE CHEESE DOCUMENTARY FILM SERIES 33 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:34,071 WASHINGTON �LLAM 34 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:37,074 The police the missing woman in Washington state 35 00:02:37,157 --> 00:02:39,117 Concentrates on investigation in the hospital. 36 00:02:39,368 --> 00:02:41,161 1974. J�LIUS 37 00:02:41,244 --> 00:02:45,123 The King County Police Department launched an investigation that Denise Naslund 38 00:02:45,207 --> 00:02:48,085 �and Janice Ott disappeared from Sammamish State Park. 39 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:51,588 The 11 separate units were flooded the followers of eye theory, 40 00:02:52,047 --> 00:02:55,801 those who said it were the suspect calls himself Ted. 41 00:02:57,219 --> 00:03:01,139 Eight women died in Washington state and around 42 00:03:01,223 --> 00:03:02,641 within six months. 43 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:05,644 I have never experienced this before. 44 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:09,773 The girls are all 18 and 21 They were between them. 45 00:03:10,357 --> 00:03:12,442 Four went to college. 46 00:03:12,943 --> 00:03:14,027 Same hairstyle. 47 00:03:14,528 --> 00:03:16,196 They were compared to each other. 48 00:03:16,905 --> 00:03:20,367 They left everything behind when they disappeared their personal belongings. 49 00:03:21,326 --> 00:03:25,414 We talked to whoever we could. Everyone is welcome. 50 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:26,957 Let's get ready for the heat. 51 00:03:29,251 --> 00:03:32,504 The police received reports, how Ted is at the Central State University 52 00:03:32,629 --> 00:03:35,632 and he was at the Seattle Tavern, from where two other girls also disappeared. 53 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:39,636 All the trees will see you soon �and behind every bush. 54 00:03:40,512 --> 00:03:41,513 Daily 12-14 55 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:43,473 We worked on it 56 00:03:44,182 --> 00:03:45,642 every day of the week. 57 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:49,938 We didn't know that his name was really Ted are we dealing with a suspect 58 00:03:50,021 --> 00:03:54,109 but this name resulted in thousands of clues. 59 00:03:54,568 --> 00:03:58,029 Data protection, rights, We looked at criminal files to the end 60 00:03:58,196 --> 00:04:02,909 if we find Ted or Theodore. 61 00:04:02,993 --> 00:04:06,079 Middle name, first name, nickname. 62 00:04:06,621 --> 00:04:12,210 They also did not forget that the he drives a light brown VW Beetle. 63 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:15,005 Let's know how many Bugs there were 64 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:18,467 in Washington State at the time? 65 00:04:19,134 --> 00:04:20,260 Want to guess? 66 00:04:20,927 --> 00:04:22,179 42,000. 67 00:04:22,846 --> 00:04:24,598 That's all we had to do. 68 00:04:25,182 --> 00:04:27,309 There were mountains of information. 69 00:04:27,934 --> 00:04:30,687 According to him, they started with 1,000 names. 70 00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:35,108 Then those names are Ted suspects followed, 71 00:04:35,192 --> 00:04:36,568 who had such a car, 72 00:04:36,651 --> 00:04:40,572 and who may have been reported by someone because of strange behavior. 73 00:04:40,655 --> 00:04:42,199 They combed the information, 74 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:48,830 And they can come to the room I took it to 100. 75 00:04:48,914 --> 00:04:50,916 MURDER 76 00:04:51,124 --> 00:04:52,209 at that time 77 00:04:52,501 --> 00:04:57,672 we didn't have the resources like that for fast processing of large amounts of data. 78 00:04:57,964 --> 00:04:59,466 Everything went slowly. 79 00:05:00,425 --> 00:05:03,386 This is a little different as the most murderous crime. 80 00:05:03,887 --> 00:05:08,517 Ophthalmologists reviewed about the suspect named Ted. 81 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:11,311 And I think we'll find it one day. 82 00:05:11,394 --> 00:05:13,855 I can't say that,� when, but we will find it. 83 00:05:20,654 --> 00:05:23,198 1980 84 00:05:23,406 --> 00:05:26,535 FLORIDA STATE COURT 85 00:05:26,618 --> 00:05:30,789 We talked several weeks ago with Ted on death row, 86 00:05:31,122 --> 00:05:33,291 when he started� to speak in the third person. 87 00:05:33,416 --> 00:05:34,793 This was the breakthrough. 88 00:05:34,876 --> 00:05:37,045 At that moment our relationship has changed. 89 00:05:38,713 --> 00:05:39,881 It's not just a bad thing 90 00:05:40,215 --> 00:05:42,217 I was a damn reporter 91 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:47,806 but Ted's hair, on whom he baptizes you can finally tell your story. 92 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,601 Put it on, 93 00:05:52,018 --> 00:05:54,646 that this person had some kind of seizure, 94 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:58,859 which resulted that he kills young women. 95 00:05:58,984 --> 00:06:00,694 How can this be explained? 96 00:06:01,194 --> 00:06:03,113 Ted started to pick it up the story of 97 00:06:03,321 --> 00:06:06,992 which he will soon measure called an entity. 98 00:06:07,409 --> 00:06:09,160 In the beginning, it's just a season. 99 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:12,372 At first this individual, as he called himself, 100 00:06:12,497 --> 00:06:14,541 addicted to pornography. 101 00:06:15,625 --> 00:06:18,879 One of the early symptoms of this disease 102 00:06:19,004 --> 00:06:21,840 the sexually charged pictures There was an interest in it. 103 00:06:22,757 --> 00:06:24,968 Just the usual, with which one is in a movie 104 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:26,928 or it can be found in Playboy. 105 00:06:27,137 --> 00:06:32,267 Then gradually to this one his mind began to race 106 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:35,645 the picture of the naked woman with the violence. 107 00:06:35,729 --> 00:06:37,647 Your curiosity begins 108 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:40,358 to focus on a broader topic, 109 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:41,735 a part is very grotesque, 110 00:06:41,818 --> 00:06:44,279 which of course worries him more and more. 111 00:06:44,988 --> 00:06:48,074 I asked, "When did this one walk forward to the field of deeds?" 112 00:06:48,742 --> 00:06:50,785 When you get to that point, 113 00:06:50,869 --> 00:06:54,289 that anger, frustration, anxiety, lack of appreciation, 114 00:06:54,956 --> 00:06:58,209 the feeling of deception and uncertainty 115 00:06:58,668 --> 00:07:03,590 effect is determined by this person,� that attractive, young women are his victims. 116 00:07:06,009 --> 00:07:10,430 This feeling is real, even the entity took control over him, 117 00:07:11,014 --> 00:07:12,724 heard a voice 118 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:16,770 And he obeyed the entity. 119 00:07:18,772 --> 00:07:20,231 On a certain evening 120 00:07:20,398 --> 00:07:22,692 he was driving on a pretty dark street, 121 00:07:22,817 --> 00:07:25,445 and he saw a girl walking on the street. 122 00:07:25,570 --> 00:07:28,740 He parked and the girl was still driving. 123 00:07:28,823 --> 00:07:30,492 He heard it, turned around 124 00:07:30,575 --> 00:07:31,993 when he drew the knife, 125 00:07:32,077 --> 00:07:33,620 He grabbed the girl's arm 126 00:07:33,703 --> 00:07:37,749 �and he ordered him to do it, what he tells her. 127 00:07:37,832 --> 00:07:40,919 When he forgot about the story, his eyes were completely blackened. 128 00:07:41,252 --> 00:07:43,421 We had blue eyes, 129 00:07:43,505 --> 00:07:46,174 but his eyes were blinded. 130 00:07:46,841 --> 00:07:49,219 Let's say he had it by the throat, 131 00:07:49,469 --> 00:07:53,390 just to get better and not scream. 132 00:07:53,598 --> 00:07:55,892 After the bloodthirsty mind requirements 133 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:58,228 calmed by sexual pleasure, 134 00:07:58,353 --> 00:08:00,814 surprised, that he cannot let the girl go. 135 00:08:01,106 --> 00:08:03,274 and murder is no different to a certain degree, 136 00:08:03,358 --> 00:08:05,026 like destruction of evidence 137 00:08:05,151 --> 00:08:06,277 one way. 138 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:10,115 But the end is the killing itself it also ends. 139 00:08:18,289 --> 00:08:21,710 Steven took Ted, to speak in the third person. 140 00:08:22,377 --> 00:08:24,337 and the three of us were killed. 141 00:08:25,088 --> 00:08:27,132 It was very strange... 142 00:08:27,924 --> 00:08:28,800 one meter 143 00:08:29,217 --> 00:08:31,678 To live from such a guy. 144 00:08:32,470 --> 00:08:34,806 He didn't look me in the eye very often. 145 00:08:35,932 --> 00:08:38,685 Many times I felt strange, 146 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:41,980 when I stared at him for a moment 147 00:08:42,814 --> 00:08:44,315 the hand. 148 00:08:44,774 --> 00:08:48,236 Thinking: "What are these hands capable of!" 149 00:08:55,285 --> 00:08:58,246 AUGUST 8, 1974 150 00:08:59,956 --> 00:09:01,708 And after a month 151 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:04,794 we had no clue. 152 00:09:05,754 --> 00:09:08,173 OK, what's your name? 153 00:09:08,256 --> 00:09:11,801 The investigation gained momentum when when a woman called 154 00:09:11,885 --> 00:09:15,472 and said: "I suspect my friend, 155 00:09:15,597 --> 00:09:18,600 To Ted Bundy. They should look after him." 156 00:09:19,851 --> 00:09:22,520 Interview with Elizabeth Kloepfer. 157 00:09:23,021 --> 00:09:24,898 K-L-O-E-P-F-E-R 158 00:09:26,191 --> 00:09:28,443 Do you know that the interview is being recorded? 159 00:09:28,568 --> 00:09:29,402 Yes. 160 00:09:29,486 --> 00:09:31,071 Do you allow the recording? 161 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:32,030 Yes. 162 00:09:32,155 --> 00:09:34,824 Ted and Liz's relationship was very complicated. 163 00:09:35,784 --> 00:09:38,411 Aff�le is neither with you nor without you. 164 00:09:38,495 --> 00:09:40,497 And it took a toll on Liz. 165 00:09:41,331 --> 00:09:44,000 He indicated that it was deeply hidden in Ted 166 00:09:44,125 --> 00:09:47,837 something much more complicated as he suspected earlier. 167 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:52,300 He told a story once, 168 00:09:52,383 --> 00:09:54,385 how he followed with a knife a college girl. 169 00:09:54,469 --> 00:09:57,347 Many times he stalked people. 170 00:09:58,014 --> 00:09:59,891 and tried to stop, 171 00:10:00,058 --> 00:10:02,727 but it didn't work. 172 00:10:02,852 --> 00:10:05,480 He found a vagina full of female semen 173 00:10:05,563 --> 00:10:06,523 in the apartment. 174 00:10:06,940 --> 00:10:09,859 He found a box full of keys. 175 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:13,321 He found some plasters and bandages. 176 00:10:13,696 --> 00:10:18,243 Another time he found a knife under the care of his car. 177 00:10:19,536 --> 00:10:22,288 On the disappearance of Brenda Ball 178 00:10:22,997 --> 00:10:25,166 He was with me and my family 179 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:28,044 but he left early in the evening, he was late the next day 180 00:10:28,419 --> 00:10:29,921 about my daughter's baptism. 181 00:10:30,338 --> 00:10:32,924 �and he asked: "Pretty scary, isn't it?" 182 00:10:34,175 --> 00:10:35,677 Reported by the man 183 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,264 suspicious behavior, And it's on the same level. 184 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,141 But he wasn't sure. 185 00:10:41,808 --> 00:10:43,184 Many times I thought 186 00:10:43,393 --> 00:10:46,271 that there are too many coincidences. 187 00:10:46,354 --> 00:10:49,190 Yet when the everyday I think about our life 188 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:52,277 there was nothing which would allow us to conclude 189 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,697 that he is a violent man, who would be capable of such a thing. 190 00:10:58,241 --> 00:11:00,451 Many women called: 191 00:11:00,535 --> 00:11:03,913 "I'm worried that maybe my friend is the culprit." 192 00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:05,623 Either they called him Ted or not. 193 00:11:06,457 --> 00:11:08,710 But this Ted was the right age, 194 00:11:08,877 --> 00:11:11,087 appearance of the outside. 195 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:14,215 He knew the University of Washington, 196 00:11:14,299 --> 00:11:16,467 because he lived in the university district. 197 00:11:17,343 --> 00:11:18,928 His car also matched. 198 00:11:19,596 --> 00:11:22,390 Things started to wind down. 199 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:25,393 We even found out 200 00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:29,731 that this is Ted was at Sammamish Park 201 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:32,984 the robbers killed there on the previous week. 202 00:11:34,444 --> 00:11:37,405 Where was Ted Bundy? 203 00:11:37,488 --> 00:11:41,075 on those days when the other woman disappeared? 204 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:45,580 Can anyone prove an alibi for me? 205 00:11:46,915 --> 00:11:49,918 As we further examined the life, it turned out 206 00:11:50,752 --> 00:11:52,212 that he has no alibi. 207 00:11:52,295 --> 00:11:55,965 And Ted was the perfect suspect. 208 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:58,468 On the Sammamish Road 209 00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:02,305 They started on the tracks. 210 00:12:03,056 --> 00:12:06,100 �and the resulting higher volume,� not to get caught. 211 00:12:06,476 --> 00:12:09,395 Then it was necessary to get rid about the problem, 212 00:12:09,979 --> 00:12:12,065 so that there is no evidence left behind. 213 00:12:14,525 --> 00:12:16,611 They finally had a suspect. 214 00:12:17,195 --> 00:12:18,029 At that time 215 00:12:18,112 --> 00:12:21,616 the Seattle Murders 216 00:12:21,699 --> 00:12:23,618 placed in the detective's chest, 217 00:12:23,701 --> 00:12:26,079 whom to the University of Washington sent for observation. 218 00:12:26,496 --> 00:12:28,623 I lived in the middle of a civilian car, 219 00:12:28,706 --> 00:12:31,751 while the two plainclothes policemen observed someone. 220 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:34,545 We were there all the time, 221 00:12:35,046 --> 00:12:36,714 and we waited 222 00:12:37,131 --> 00:12:40,093 would he drive his car, but he never did. 223 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,722 I didn't even know then I only realized it later, 224 00:12:44,973 --> 00:12:46,766 that Bundy's car was being watched. 225 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:52,397 At that time we already had a photo of Tedr, 226 00:12:52,855 --> 00:12:55,316 for photographic identification we showed it 227 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,193 to the eyewitnesses from Sammamish. 228 00:12:58,194 --> 00:13:01,531 The photo of Ted Bundy was shown at least eight, on the Sammamish 229 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:02,824 witnessed. 230 00:13:02,907 --> 00:13:08,079 Nearly seven people were killed, that Ted Bundy was not the mysterious Ted. 231 00:13:09,497 --> 00:13:13,293 we were surprised when they said it wasn't. 232 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:17,797 And we didn't know to identify with absolute certainty, 233 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:21,384 that it really was the perpetrator of these crimes. 234 00:13:22,552 --> 00:13:24,262 If only it would have succeeded! 235 00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:27,974 There were no fingerprints. 236 00:13:28,433 --> 00:13:30,268 There were no witnesses. 237 00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:33,896 Nothing concrete did not link Ted to the criminals. 238 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:35,815 They could not raise a case against him. 239 00:13:35,898 --> 00:13:39,694 And they never took you in for official police questioning. 240 00:13:40,611 --> 00:13:42,864 I think we can blame them for that, 241 00:13:43,323 --> 00:13:45,283 that they never came to talk to me, 242 00:13:45,366 --> 00:13:47,035 but at the same time they are not wrong. 243 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:51,247 Which one should I choose? The law student of the innocent past, 244 00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:54,917 or rather arresting the robber set a record 245 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:58,004 do we shoot styles? 246 00:13:58,087 --> 00:13:59,672 The strange monks. 247 00:14:00,465 --> 00:14:04,344 People don't know that they are murderers they don't live in the dark 248 00:14:04,427 --> 00:14:07,472 with sharp teeth, �and with a needle dripping from my head. 249 00:14:09,557 --> 00:14:13,603 everyone wanted so that this Ted can be recognized from one another. 250 00:14:13,811 --> 00:14:14,979 But it wasn't. 251 00:14:16,522 --> 00:14:18,775 At that time, we did not have such information 252 00:14:18,941 --> 00:14:22,236 which is based on we could have defended Bundy with murder. 253 00:14:22,653 --> 00:14:24,739 This is what people don't know. 254 00:14:26,532 --> 00:14:28,993 Where is the investigation? 255 00:14:29,077 --> 00:14:32,538 No one from the police will comment, 256 00:14:32,622 --> 00:14:34,624 because the investigation is still ongoing. 257 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:38,044 No one can confirm it, 258 00:14:38,294 --> 00:14:41,631 whether other suspects are being investigated. 259 00:14:43,508 --> 00:14:45,426 In every investigation there is a point, 260 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:49,097 when you run out of clues. 261 00:14:49,597 --> 00:14:52,850 The operation of the unit was then closed. 262 00:14:54,936 --> 00:14:59,148 However, it should be added that apparently the murders also stopped. 263 00:14:59,649 --> 00:15:02,860 we didn't know that the first one died, 264 00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:05,822 moved or just stopped 265 00:15:06,447 --> 00:15:08,032 with the murders. 266 00:15:08,533 --> 00:15:10,201 This year, in the spring, he became one-of-a-kind, 267 00:15:10,284 --> 00:15:12,495 that the investigation ran aground, 268 00:15:12,703 --> 00:15:15,373 The police admitted,� so that we know only then 269 00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:17,708 to catch you,� if he commits a crime. 270 00:15:27,176 --> 00:15:29,178 SEPTEMBER 1974 271 00:15:30,054 --> 00:15:33,141 GOD BROUGHT IT IN UTAH! 272 00:15:36,602 --> 00:15:37,770 I loved Utah. 273 00:15:38,646 --> 00:15:40,606 I decided in September 1974, 274 00:15:40,857 --> 00:15:42,942 how to copy it there. 275 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:48,322 I turned south, Provo stops on the highway, 276 00:15:49,198 --> 00:15:52,118 �and suddenly into an almost euphoric state I asked. 277 00:15:53,161 --> 00:15:56,122 I was just looking out the window, I looked at the water, 278 00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:58,958 I dreamed, recalled memories 279 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:02,712 and it's usually a good idea 280 00:16:02,795 --> 00:16:04,714 the road to Utah. 281 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:10,761 Ted moved to Salt Lake City, that the University of Utah 282 00:16:10,845 --> 00:16:12,513 go to law school. 283 00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:19,270 I didn't know why Ted left to Utah for college. 284 00:16:19,687 --> 00:16:22,148 at the University of Puget Sound I suggested it to him. 285 00:16:22,857 --> 00:16:24,817 Because I went there myself. 286 00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:27,069 But � he stuck to Utah, 287 00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:30,907 And I was surprised when he left. 288 00:16:31,449 --> 00:16:33,117 We are facing such a person, 289 00:16:33,201 --> 00:16:36,704 whose primary goal is, to remain intact. 290 00:16:37,121 --> 00:16:40,249 It belonged to that tool, 291 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:42,877 to cover great distances, 292 00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:45,171 following his actions in this way. 293 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:48,382 Furthermore, he was able to use it, 294 00:16:48,466 --> 00:16:50,259 that you can wrap yourself in anonymity. 295 00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:53,596 The Ted that people They met in Utah 296 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:56,224 he was the same law student, 297 00:16:56,599 --> 00:16:58,851 whom he also formed in Washington. 298 00:16:59,185 --> 00:17:01,562 Ted did this he won people over. 299 00:17:06,484 --> 00:17:09,779 I dated Ted Bundy in 1974. 300 00:17:11,113 --> 00:17:15,535 A member of a Mormon church I was the president. 301 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:20,248 One day, two members of our church knocked 302 00:17:20,414 --> 00:17:23,042 Ted Bundy's door. 303 00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:27,129 They talked and he showed interest. 304 00:17:28,422 --> 00:17:30,841 He finally joined the church. 305 00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:32,343 Baptized, 306 00:17:33,094 --> 00:17:35,096 And it was included in our section. 307 00:17:37,390 --> 00:17:40,268 He was really so busy the life of the two, 308 00:17:40,351 --> 00:17:43,813 that he is completely immersed 309 00:17:43,938 --> 00:17:46,107 the normal life in apparent maintenance. 310 00:17:46,691 --> 00:17:48,693 Even his behavior changed, 311 00:17:48,776 --> 00:17:52,321 that he is sane, stable, as a law-abiding person. 312 00:17:54,657 --> 00:17:57,285 And he was just a handsome young man, 313 00:17:57,368 --> 00:17:59,829 whose life is apparently in danger. 314 00:18:00,955 --> 00:18:02,290 He came to the events, 315 00:18:02,373 --> 00:18:04,375 to church meetings. 316 00:18:04,875 --> 00:18:06,711 He had a positive personality. 317 00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:09,672 I thought it was a good year. 318 00:18:13,217 --> 00:18:16,512 MURRAY, UTAH 319 00:18:16,846 --> 00:18:19,765 The summer of '74 was full of fun. 320 00:18:19,849 --> 00:18:21,309 We felt good. 321 00:18:23,978 --> 00:18:24,895 I was 18 years old. 322 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:27,064 I was terrified. 323 00:18:27,189 --> 00:18:30,776 I was hired by the local telephone company. 324 00:18:31,652 --> 00:18:34,655 I bought a car; a '74 Camar�t. 325 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:38,576 Brown with black lining and with a black roof. 326 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:44,498 And then I started walking with an identical Camar�s son. 327 00:18:45,416 --> 00:18:46,584 Everything was cool. 328 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:48,669 I had nothing to worry about. 329 00:18:50,546 --> 00:18:54,675 Then I heard what happened to a creature in the neighboring town of Midvale. 330 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:57,011 They were murdered. 331 00:18:58,429 --> 00:19:00,765 She was the police chief's daughter. 332 00:19:01,432 --> 00:19:03,100 it was awesome 333 00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:08,522 but not much could be known about him, And I didn't even get into trouble. 334 00:19:10,066 --> 00:19:14,362 Melissa Smith with a friend after her father met in a hall in Midvale. 335 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:17,156 They talked for a while, then Melissa left. 336 00:19:17,239 --> 00:19:18,366 He started home, 337 00:19:18,449 --> 00:19:19,784 but it never arrived. 338 00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,161 Nine days later, in Summit County 339 00:19:22,244 --> 00:19:23,746 the body was found. 340 00:19:24,121 --> 00:19:26,999 They beat me They strangled me with a nylon stocking. 341 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:29,919 I don't want it to be another 342 00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:32,463 the woman should also know that what to us. 343 00:19:32,588 --> 00:19:34,256 I don't think that's right. 344 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:36,258 I want to know that young people 345 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,678 they are safe on the street. 346 00:19:41,138 --> 00:19:43,474 1974 347 00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:47,353 two more disappearances were reported in the state of Utah. 348 00:19:48,479 --> 00:19:52,400 Nancy Wilcox then disappeared. that he left home. 349 00:19:52,983 --> 00:19:54,777 The body was never found. 350 00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:58,114 Another girl, Laura Aime, also disappeared. 351 00:19:58,489 --> 00:20:02,993 Later in the Wasatch Mountains they found me. 352 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:06,080 They beat and raped me. 353 00:20:06,163 --> 00:20:07,665 UTAH 354 00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:09,625 People were very worried. 355 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:14,171 I was a deputy state attorney 356 00:20:14,463 --> 00:20:16,340 in Salt Lake County. 357 00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:22,596 Such a number of disappeared and dead beings considered an unusual thing. 358 00:20:23,389 --> 00:20:28,185 They didn't make all of our students with the girls who disappeared in Seattle. 359 00:20:28,519 --> 00:20:31,105 Man in his wildest dreams wouldn't even think 360 00:20:31,188 --> 00:20:34,442 to be around a serial killer commits. 361 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:39,321 NOVEMBER 8, 1974 362 00:20:42,783 --> 00:20:47,413 It fell on Friday, November 8, 1974. 363 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,374 I didn't really have a plan for that evening. 364 00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:55,129 That's why I thought I go to the mall by car. 365 00:20:57,423 --> 00:20:59,383 I arrived at the parking lot, 366 00:20:59,508 --> 00:21:00,926 I parked under a lamp, 367 00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:02,928 And I went to the gym. 368 00:21:05,055 --> 00:21:07,266 I was looking at a bookstore window, 369 00:21:08,392 --> 00:21:11,896 when a man came to me. 370 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:14,899 He said, officer, 371 00:21:15,649 --> 00:21:17,860 and that someone was caught in the act, 372 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:19,987 as soon as he wanted to open my car. 373 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:22,156 He was polite. 374 00:21:22,406 --> 00:21:24,909 He asked if I would go out to the car with him, 375 00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:26,994 to see if something is missing. 376 00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:29,413 We went out to the car, 377 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:32,374 And I saw that nothing had happened. 378 00:21:32,458 --> 00:21:35,336 He kept leaning forward as if he wanted to look further 379 00:21:35,461 --> 00:21:37,505 but I didn't. 380 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,173 I pretended that nothing had happened. 381 00:21:40,007 --> 00:21:43,219 Then he said that they are holding a guy 382 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,054 at the captain's office. 383 00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:48,599 He asked if I had time to go 384 00:21:48,724 --> 00:21:50,726 and make a complaint against him. 385 00:21:51,352 --> 00:21:54,647 Then I asked him to identify himself. 386 00:21:54,814 --> 00:21:58,442 Because I started to feel a little weird, 387 00:21:58,526 --> 00:22:00,611 and like an alcohol smell I would have liked it. 388 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:04,949 He gratefully took the coin and showed the badge. 389 00:22:05,199 --> 00:22:07,034 I said ok. 390 00:22:07,618 --> 00:22:09,286 He drove a Volkswagen. 391 00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:12,790 which I found strange, but I thought maybe a plainclothes policeman. 392 00:22:13,791 --> 00:22:15,042 I spoke. 393 00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:18,712 He turned into a side street, 394 00:22:19,463 --> 00:22:21,799 then suddenly stopped 395 00:22:21,924 --> 00:22:25,386 next to a public school. 396 00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:29,890 That's when I panicked. "But what are we doing?" 397 00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:32,101 and he grabbed my arm. 398 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:35,229 He put handcuffs on one of my wrists, 399 00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:38,941 but he did not succeed in the others. It just blew. 400 00:22:39,024 --> 00:22:42,862 I have never been so scared in my life. 401 00:22:44,738 --> 00:22:48,701 I know it's hot, but my life flashed before my eyes. 402 00:22:50,828 --> 00:22:53,622 I thought, "Oh my God, my parents will never know 403 00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:54,915 what happened to me." 404 00:22:55,749 --> 00:22:58,335 Then he pulled out a gun 405 00:22:58,419 --> 00:23:00,337 and threatened me: "I'll blow your head off!" 406 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,174 It was in my head: "Just on it! 407 00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:06,260 Do it! Kill me now! " 408 00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:09,805 But I opened the door and I jumped out of the car. 409 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,473 he came after me 410 00:23:11,557 --> 00:23:13,559 and we wrestled outside. 411 00:23:13,642 --> 00:23:17,062 He had a crowbar. He wanted to meet her head on. 412 00:23:17,438 --> 00:23:19,648 I raised my hand and shook. 413 00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:23,611 I started with all my parts, I hit and beat where I could. 414 00:23:23,694 --> 00:23:25,696 My nails are chipped. 415 00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:29,325 I remember the dream, In his eyes. 416 00:23:35,331 --> 00:23:38,667 Then a car came from the other direction. 417 00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:41,462 I escaped from his hand, and I ran to the car. 418 00:23:42,546 --> 00:23:45,925 I opened the door and jumped in. 419 00:23:46,008 --> 00:23:49,929 I asked to be taken immediately to the police! 420 00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:52,181 I was in a hysterical state. 421 00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:58,562 I was lucky. He was shocked later to face 422 00:23:59,063 --> 00:24:02,524 that he was so angry because I ran away 423 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:05,986 that he went on and killed someone else. 424 00:24:07,196 --> 00:24:09,573 FOUR YEARS LATER 425 00:24:12,534 --> 00:24:15,621 Debra Kent watched a play at Viewmont High School. 426 00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:18,707 He left before the end, because he had to leave the club. 427 00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:21,001 Debbie never got into her car. 428 00:24:22,336 --> 00:24:25,297 On the night of Carol Daronch's abduction, 429 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:29,969 Debbie Kent from Salt Lake for a ``major'' I was robbed while lying in the parking lot. 430 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:35,140 A handcuff key was found in the parking lot. 431 00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:40,396 And the key is in my hand It was handcuffed. 432 00:24:40,813 --> 00:24:43,399 According to the police, it is the key 433 00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:46,110 Four years before Debbie Kent disappeared 434 00:24:46,193 --> 00:24:49,863 used to kidnap Carol Daronch belonged to handcuffs. 435 00:24:51,198 --> 00:24:54,284 Now there is a scientific and physical evidence. 436 00:24:54,618 --> 00:24:57,204 The police are starting to intervene the events. 437 00:25:00,624 --> 00:25:03,127 1975 M�RCIUS 5. 438 00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:06,046 WASHINGTON �LLAM 439 00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:07,798 Several months passed, 440 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:10,884 and we have no trace we couldn't start 441 00:25:10,968 --> 00:25:13,679 in Washington State, the missing woman. 442 00:25:14,263 --> 00:25:18,767 and sometimes you have to to rely on 443 00:25:19,727 --> 00:25:21,020 who are random 444 00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:23,022 they find something. 445 00:25:23,897 --> 00:25:25,899 MOUNT TAYLOR, WASHINGTON 446 00:25:26,108 --> 00:25:27,943 A friend of mine from the police called me. 447 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:30,362 He said, "That's Mount Taylor!" 448 00:25:30,446 --> 00:25:32,573 I ask: "What happened?" To this: "Just go!" 449 00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:35,993 I went there as a Seattleite with a homicide detective. 450 00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:38,871 They said they found dead bodies. 451 00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:42,791 A group of forest students 452 00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:45,377 marked trees on Mount Taylor, 453 00:25:46,045 --> 00:25:49,381 And they found Brenda Ball's skull 454 00:25:50,132 --> 00:25:51,133 in the forest. 455 00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:57,306 They called the sheriff's office, 456 00:25:57,389 --> 00:26:02,352 and we with our cheese scout team And they started the research with volunteers. 457 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:05,898 Three more women every 30 meters 458 00:26:06,231 --> 00:26:08,942 we found its remains. 459 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:11,236 It was a nightmare. 460 00:26:14,656 --> 00:26:16,825 Every day we find more and more things. 461 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:19,703 The man goes to the forest, but don't know what's in it. 462 00:26:19,787 --> 00:26:23,248 so sad so deep in the underworld... 463 00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:25,876 It is not possible to assess whether it is old 464 00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:28,712 or five minutes later we find something. 465 00:26:28,796 --> 00:26:29,630 It doesn't matter. 466 00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:41,058 How do you feel about Mount Taylor? 467 00:26:41,809 --> 00:26:45,062 About the Taylor Hill crime scene? 468 00:26:46,063 --> 00:26:48,398 We can assume, 469 00:26:49,274 --> 00:26:52,736 that this individual is understood he wanted to hide his crimes. 470 00:26:53,821 --> 00:26:55,364 When you left a body there, 471 00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:58,617 the animals around 472 00:26:58,700 --> 00:26:59,827 They did their job. 473 00:27:00,244 --> 00:27:01,745 � and it went back and forth, 474 00:27:01,829 --> 00:27:04,289 because it was a place to dump cheese. 475 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:09,378 Remains of six missing people were found in the same place. 476 00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:12,965 The 21-year-old Linda Ann Healy, 477 00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:15,801 Brenda Ball, 22, of Seattle 478 00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:19,179 18-year-old Susan Elaine Rancourt from Alaska 479 00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:24,601 �and the 20 �ves, from California Roberta Kathleen Parks orthopedic surgeon. 480 00:27:24,935 --> 00:27:28,147 A few kilometers from the four orthopedics 481 00:27:28,355 --> 00:27:31,024 the police are two others He also identified the murdered girl. 482 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,903 Two from one place, Sammamish They disappeared from the State Park. 483 00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,114 The 23-year-old Janice Ott, 484 00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:40,409 �and 18-year-old Denise Naslund. 485 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:46,665 The women were kidnapped from different places, 486 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,335 but kill them all found on Mount Taylor. 487 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:53,130 Then you can 488 00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:55,007 almost certain 489 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:59,094 that the disappeared and the found woman 490 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,805 it was done by the same person. 491 00:28:01,889 --> 00:28:03,473 TED 492 00:28:04,558 --> 00:28:08,729 I started to write that this person is a serial killer. 493 00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:11,690 I think we were the first 494 00:28:11,773 --> 00:28:13,901 who made this assumption on the air. 495 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,737 Other reporters also jumped on the story. 496 00:28:17,321 --> 00:28:21,200 Mount Taylor is known as an af�le date spot. 497 00:28:21,283 --> 00:28:24,036 Around the world evidence points to this. 498 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,916 - Could you be more specific? - We can assume, 499 00:28:28,999 --> 00:28:33,587 how about the suspected lover 500 00:28:33,921 --> 00:28:35,923 was it murder? 501 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:37,674 Well... 502 00:28:38,634 --> 00:28:41,386 You can talk as you like, 503 00:28:41,511 --> 00:28:45,682 but in the present we are facing the problem of 504 00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:47,726 which differs the most humanitarian aid, 505 00:28:47,809 --> 00:28:49,478 that we don't know how they died. 506 00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:53,232 And it's hard enough draw any conclusions 507 00:28:53,815 --> 00:28:56,902 about how because we only found bones. 508 00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:04,660 The remains were found scattered, Animals came to them. 509 00:29:05,118 --> 00:29:06,828 We did not have such a technical background, 510 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,080 like nowadays. 511 00:29:08,163 --> 00:29:11,083 We couldn't test DNA. 512 00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:15,629 The evidence that initially we found on the dead bodies 513 00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:18,465 as if the train never existed. 514 00:29:18,632 --> 00:29:21,885 It sounds morbid. but we were waiting for another corpse, 515 00:29:21,969 --> 00:29:23,512 which can be more evidence, 516 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:25,973 like the ones we found. 517 00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:32,145 We were still unable to name the culprit. The prospect was driven by mystery. 518 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:39,528 COLORADO 519 00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:43,532 On my way to work in Seattle 520 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:46,576 in Denver, Colorado I got a seat from the river. 521 00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:49,830 When I got there, he looked up, in an interesting way 522 00:29:49,913 --> 00:29:52,499 Women are being kidnapped all over Colorado 523 00:29:52,582 --> 00:29:53,750 and they kill. 524 00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:57,254 "NO CLEAR" OF THE MISSING WOMAN 525 00:29:57,671 --> 00:30:01,216 And it looked like it was from the northwest coast 526 00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:03,844 I would have taken it the horror returns to Colorado. 527 00:30:04,052 --> 00:30:09,016 On January 12, 1975, Caryn Campbell disappeared from the Wildwood Inn. 528 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:13,812 Caryn Campbell with her ex-wife 529 00:30:13,895 --> 00:30:17,357 and if I remember correctly, he came to rest with his children. 530 00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:21,028 Caryn Campbell with his ex-wife,� Dr. WithRaymond Gadowski 531 00:30:21,111 --> 00:30:23,822 Lived at the fire in front of the Wildwood Inn. 532 00:30:23,947 --> 00:30:26,742 They have just finished dinner in the Stew Pot hall. 533 00:30:27,034 --> 00:30:29,286 Miss Campbell He went to his room for a magazine. 534 00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:31,705 He got into the elevator around eight o'clock in the evening, 535 00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:32,873 He left for the second one. 536 00:30:32,956 --> 00:30:36,084 That was the last time Gadowski saw him alive. 537 00:30:38,170 --> 00:30:42,758 36 days later, then 6 kilometers away he was found unclothed. 538 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:45,302 The same corpse as the animals They were partially destroyed, 539 00:30:45,385 --> 00:30:49,056 the coroner was able to find it, that Miss Campbell 540 00:30:49,139 --> 00:30:52,976 around after dinner with two friends died on January 12. 541 00:30:54,561 --> 00:30:58,690 Caryn Campbell's family he suffered a lot. 542 00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:00,984 The body was found 543 00:31:01,818 --> 00:31:05,906 which for the most part lay there. 544 00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:09,743 I can't even imagine how they processed this. 545 00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:15,540 It was a big deal because there are no murders in Aspen. 546 00:31:17,959 --> 00:31:21,546 And at least two other murders also happened in Colorado. 547 00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:23,799 Another two women also disappeared. 548 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:27,052 Julie Cunningham, a 26-year-old woman from Vail, 549 00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:31,098 �and 24-year-old Denise Oliverson From Grand Junction. 550 00:31:31,181 --> 00:31:33,141 Locations unknown. 551 00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:38,897 Both are witnesses, track or they disappeared without anything else. 552 00:31:39,773 --> 00:31:42,234 Colorado's powers are still there it disappeared 553 00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:43,819 and a list of murdered women. 554 00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,571 According to the coroner's report, it is possible, 555 00:31:46,655 --> 00:31:49,074 that it is the same person Know these women. 556 00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:53,036 Someone committed murders. Lots and lots of murder. 557 00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:55,038 All its elements matched 558 00:31:55,122 --> 00:31:57,499 with cases in the Northwest. 559 00:31:57,958 --> 00:32:00,460 As he followed, which should have been examined. 560 00:32:00,794 --> 00:32:02,921 But the various police agencies... 561 00:32:03,338 --> 00:32:05,590 They didn't share it with each other the information. 562 00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:08,093 Flaws of the criminal bodies 563 00:32:08,677 --> 00:32:10,429 They regularly make it difficult 564 00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:15,392 detection and resolution of crimes. 565 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,645 Errors in the criminal justice system They might� do 566 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:21,231 it is up to the individual to share. 567 00:32:21,398 --> 00:32:23,942 A MURDERER ON THE RELEASE IN ASPEN? 568 00:32:24,526 --> 00:32:26,611 Ted was proud of what he did. 569 00:32:26,695 --> 00:32:28,488 He looked at himself like a hunter 570 00:32:28,822 --> 00:32:30,198 and he killed big game. 571 00:32:30,282 --> 00:32:33,743 And he felt that something was wrong he achieved something special, 572 00:32:34,494 --> 00:32:36,037 what no one else has done before 573 00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:38,373 because he was so good at it. 574 00:32:40,417 --> 00:32:44,337 AUGUST 1975 575 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:48,592 UTAH 576 00:32:49,718 --> 00:32:51,261 After a year 577 00:32:51,678 --> 00:32:55,098 the police didn't have it yet suspect in my kidnapping. 578 00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:57,642 It kept going through my head. 579 00:32:57,726 --> 00:33:00,645 I thought: "Why can't I find it!?" 580 00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:05,692 The police kept an eye on my house. 581 00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:10,280 My father slept with his hunting rifle under his bed. 582 00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:14,034 I tried to move on with my life, 583 00:33:14,451 --> 00:33:16,995 but he always motored there in the evening: 584 00:33:17,287 --> 00:33:19,998 "Where is this guy? Why don't we catch him?" 585 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,923 Bob Hayward is a car driver 586 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:31,009 around Salt Lake City it was in a residential area. 587 00:33:31,301 --> 00:33:33,762 He saw a Volkswagen 588 00:33:33,887 --> 00:33:36,389 to deal with without lights. 589 00:33:36,556 --> 00:33:39,935 It was suspicious therefore he tried to stop the vehicle. 590 00:33:40,644 --> 00:33:42,687 She ran away from him, but he shot her. 591 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,815 He finally succeeded in realizing it. 592 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:49,402 Only for casual chats I almost stumbled upon Hayward 593 00:33:49,486 --> 00:33:51,446 two in the morning. 594 00:33:51,655 --> 00:33:53,031 It was just a matter of luck. 595 00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:57,744 The driver was arrested for that he did not stop for a police interview. 596 00:34:00,747 --> 00:34:03,124 He was identified as Ted Bundy. 597 00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:06,419 Mr. Bundy wanted a cure. 598 00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:08,797 That's why he called and said: 599 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,132 "I was arrested and I need help." 600 00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:12,926 He asked for an appointment and he arrived. 601 00:34:13,927 --> 00:34:18,557 John O'Connell was the other doctor, who later led the defense. 602 00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:23,186 At first it seemed small. 603 00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:25,063 It was just a rule violation. 604 00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:29,192 It didn't seem like anything other than random for a series of mistakes. 605 00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:31,945 There was a guy with a degree, 606 00:34:32,279 --> 00:34:34,864 who was a member of the Mormon church. 607 00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:38,952 My secretary at the time he even dated her. 608 00:34:39,035 --> 00:34:42,247 He seemed like any of us. 609 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,002 Not much later They contacted me to: 610 00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:49,838 "We would like you to wear it. We need to talk about it." 611 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:53,717 let's see, there's something else here, as it seems at first glance. 612 00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:56,469 The police found it a brown sports bag in his car, 613 00:34:56,553 --> 00:35:01,391 with a snow mask inside, an ice cream �and some cafat with sheets. 614 00:35:01,891 --> 00:35:04,978 Objects found in the vehicle they were very suspicious. 615 00:35:05,186 --> 00:35:08,523 There were crowbars, stockings, handcuffs. 616 00:35:08,815 --> 00:35:11,443 His appearance was the same 617 00:35:11,526 --> 00:35:14,029 about the kidnapper of Carol Daronch with a given personality. 618 00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:17,907 And they began to seriously investigate On Ted Bundy Road. 619 00:35:20,243 --> 00:35:23,455 The police spoke, that they have a suspect. 620 00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:25,624 They asked if they could go in 621 00:35:26,041 --> 00:35:28,543 to identify 622 00:35:29,336 --> 00:35:32,756 It was a great relief that someone was caught. 623 00:35:34,049 --> 00:35:37,177 Ted called me unexpectedly at home 624 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:39,846 And he told me how angry he was. 625 00:35:40,722 --> 00:35:43,642 He told me that he had been arrested, 626 00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:47,604 and that the identification will be the next day. 627 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:52,067 His behavior at the time he really didn't confess. 628 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:55,654 He was usually drunk and calm. 629 00:35:56,237 --> 00:35:59,366 But something really stirred him in the stories. 630 00:35:59,449 --> 00:36:00,408 I saw it. 631 00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:03,870 And this was a suspicious act. 632 00:36:07,415 --> 00:36:09,668 When you were brought in for identification, 633 00:36:09,918 --> 00:36:13,797 he completely changed his exterior compared to a few days ago. 634 00:36:16,091 --> 00:36:20,470 He took off his hair, and also his hair put it on the other side, 635 00:36:20,804 --> 00:36:22,472 to look completely different. 636 00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:27,435 We had to act fast, to compare it to 637 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,354 put shapes next to it in the row. 638 00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:31,523 it was formed 639 00:36:31,606 --> 00:36:33,358 that all the police were standing next to him. 640 00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:38,238 They took me to the police station and shot me. 641 00:36:39,072 --> 00:36:41,866 They invited them in, turned around And they cut each other. 642 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,286 I recognized it immediately. 643 00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:50,083 As soon as he walked in and I saw his step. 644 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:51,292 I knew it was. 645 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:55,630 One does not exist The university was studied on the basis of theory. 646 00:36:55,755 --> 00:36:58,383 Identification of eye science requested by the police. 647 00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:01,511 But I stayed strong because it wasn't It means to show myself. 648 00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:03,513 I had to take a break. 649 00:37:03,596 --> 00:37:05,223 I had to keep my cool. 650 00:37:05,473 --> 00:37:08,685 Because as long as this succeeds, I will defeat them. 651 00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:12,939 After identification 652 00:37:13,022 --> 00:37:16,359 he was quickly charged with kidnapping. 653 00:37:16,985 --> 00:37:20,697 And things have changed, as we learned more and more. 654 00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:23,408 UNIVERSITY OF UTAH THEY DEFEND WITH MURDER 655 00:37:23,783 --> 00:37:26,828 On the front page of the Seattle Post Intelligencer this was my head: 656 00:37:27,036 --> 00:37:31,207 "Is 'Ted from Utah' 'Ted from Seattle'?" 657 00:37:31,833 --> 00:37:33,501 From that moment on 658 00:37:33,585 --> 00:37:38,965 we thought: "He could be the Ted we've been looking for." 659 00:37:39,632 --> 00:37:44,137 Ted Bundy was really suspicious in the roots of King County? 660 00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:46,014 Well... 661 00:37:46,139 --> 00:37:47,015 hand... 662 00:37:47,223 --> 00:37:49,559 he knew it was. 663 00:37:50,643 --> 00:37:54,063 The �llams started then to communicate with each other. 664 00:37:55,023 --> 00:37:59,402 They came from many western countries Investigating Aspen, 665 00:37:59,486 --> 00:38:01,780 to save your notes in the number of absences, 666 00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:05,200 which you can contact With Theodore Robert Bundy. 667 00:38:05,325 --> 00:38:08,787 This is the first of its kind, also in several countries �rint� conference. 668 00:38:09,204 --> 00:38:12,832 and it seemed that what happened to the victim in Colorado 669 00:38:12,916 --> 00:38:16,211 what happened to the victim in Utah 670 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:19,297 and also with the victim in Washington. 671 00:38:20,048 --> 00:38:24,385 The murders are similar contained elements. Well then 672 00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:28,765 It was the kidnapping of Carol Daronch on the surest footing against Bundy. 673 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:33,102 The next step was up To clean the room and take it away. 674 00:38:33,186 --> 00:38:37,273 As a state, he raised my eyebrows this is the responsibility. 675 00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:42,028 To Ted's acquaintances in our church 676 00:38:42,111 --> 00:38:45,573 his reaction was disbelief. 677 00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:50,036 They knew that he was infallible in all respects. 678 00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:52,205 They are very nervous. 679 00:38:52,705 --> 00:38:55,750 That certainly couldn't be true of Ted Bundy. 680 00:38:57,126 --> 00:39:01,172 Ted called me and said that he is in prison in Utah. 681 00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:04,425 I said: "Ok, I'll go and be by your side." 682 00:39:04,968 --> 00:39:07,512 I flew to Salt Lake and I took a room. 683 00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:11,975 The members of the church wanted to express it beliefs, 684 00:39:12,058 --> 00:39:15,603 that Ted is innocent and they rushed to the negotiation. 685 00:39:18,231 --> 00:39:22,026 I remember running away with a name on my part, 686 00:39:22,151 --> 00:39:25,697 who asked: "Carol, are you sure it was �?" 687 00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:29,450 He questioned what I said just because he was a university student 688 00:39:29,534 --> 00:39:31,327 and buttery, 689 00:39:31,578 --> 00:39:33,788 handsome, smart, 690 00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:36,165 and that annoyed me. 691 00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:41,504 FEBRUARY 23, 1976 692 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:47,260 Negotiations began in February 1976. 693 00:39:47,969 --> 00:39:49,220 It was a big boost. 694 00:39:50,179 --> 00:39:52,015 Ted also wanted to take part in the defense. 695 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:55,476 For students who imitated And he came with his ideas. 696 00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:58,771 He said: "I didn't do anything, I'm not worried." 697 00:39:58,855 --> 00:40:01,983 It was obvious that he enjoyed the fight. 698 00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:07,196 Ted aff�le as a decent neighbor gave himself up 699 00:40:07,864 --> 00:40:11,326 and his followers in the trading room they greatly increased their confidence. 700 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:14,454 He mentioned that it was educational about the justice service. 701 00:40:14,537 --> 00:40:16,497 How do you feel about the justice service 702 00:40:16,581 --> 00:40:17,916 based on your own experiences? 703 00:40:17,999 --> 00:40:20,460 It sure works and you have to believe that it works, 704 00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:23,421 apart, nothing else remains of man 705 00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:24,881 just a mumbling idiot. 706 00:40:24,964 --> 00:40:27,383 This means� that he wants to participate again 707 00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,135 buy in the service of justice? 708 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:33,264 A strange thing happened to me one morning right to work. 709 00:40:33,348 --> 00:40:36,017 I got two weeks on the third floor in the wellness department. 710 00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:40,438 Yes, I want to finish law my studies to be a doctor, 711 00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:42,357 not just any kind! 712 00:40:43,149 --> 00:40:44,692 I think everything will be fine. 713 00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:46,152 That's all I can say. 714 00:40:49,572 --> 00:40:53,826 Before the negotiation, Ted resigned on the right to negotiate by jury, 715 00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:57,413 and he decided that of innocence or guilt 716 00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:01,417 He entrusts his life to Hanson 717 00:41:01,501 --> 00:41:02,585 without a jury. 718 00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:05,546 They said, the negotiation is going well. 719 00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:07,924 Carol Daronch was not strong. 720 00:41:08,508 --> 00:41:10,009 He wasn't entirely sure of himself. 721 00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:13,596 There were a lot of people at the meeting. 722 00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:17,892 I had never done this before and I was scared. 723 00:41:18,226 --> 00:41:21,062 He looked different today as you remembered? 724 00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:23,022 Every time I see it, it always looks different. 725 00:41:23,106 --> 00:41:24,524 Does it always look different? 726 00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:27,360 I studied at school. 727 00:41:28,236 --> 00:41:32,073 They tried to distract me, to get involved... 728 00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:34,200 But he wasn't interested 729 00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:37,745 When Carol Daronch studied, 730 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:39,747 then I exploded with anger. 731 00:41:40,415 --> 00:41:43,376 I think he is slowly becoming a professional teacher. 732 00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:47,380 I pointed to it and said that it was 733 00:41:47,463 --> 00:41:50,341 He tried to kidnap me. 734 00:41:50,425 --> 00:41:53,094 �and when I heard, how to grind the embedded text, 735 00:41:53,177 --> 00:41:54,804 I became very, very angry. 736 00:41:54,887 --> 00:41:57,765 I stood up, pointed to the skin, and then, 737 00:41:57,849 --> 00:42:01,019 and I said: "He's lying! He lied before, he's lying now!" 738 00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:06,065 I saw him as arrogant. He kept grinning. 739 00:42:06,983 --> 00:42:09,110 I can't behave properly. 740 00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:11,070 If I showed my skills, they said: 741 00:42:11,154 --> 00:42:13,948 "See? He can really be violent to be irritable." 742 00:42:14,115 --> 00:42:16,868 I don't care what other people think about the behavior. 743 00:42:16,951 --> 00:42:19,078 I do as I think is right 744 00:42:19,162 --> 00:42:20,830 as I think �pp is best for me. 745 00:42:21,831 --> 00:42:24,500 I think he thought he could do it. 746 00:42:26,502 --> 00:42:27,837 Theodore Robert Bundy, 747 00:42:28,129 --> 00:42:31,299 25 Republican campaign activists in Seattle, 748 00:42:31,924 --> 00:42:34,802 28 Law students at the University of Utah, 749 00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:37,430 29 Utah kidnappers die. 750 00:42:37,513 --> 00:42:39,891 THE B�R� SAID: BUNDY B�N�S 751 00:42:45,646 --> 00:42:47,482 This afternoon I heard 752 00:42:48,024 --> 00:42:50,735 that the people of Salt Lake they succeeded. 753 00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:54,405 I think he is thorough and professional work was done. 754 00:42:54,489 --> 00:42:57,450 I congratulate them on their success. 755 00:42:58,910 --> 00:43:00,870 During the execution process 756 00:43:00,953 --> 00:43:04,123 Ted is a 90 day old under examination, 757 00:43:04,207 --> 00:43:07,085 at the Utah State Prison. 758 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:12,465 I prepared these as a psychologist the surveys for rent, 759 00:43:12,715 --> 00:43:17,053 whether to imprison a person, or put it on trial. 760 00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:20,181 The question was not whether he accepted the deed. 761 00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:21,557 They were found guilty. 762 00:43:21,974 --> 00:43:24,811 The question was whether it is violent or not. 763 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,899 So many people said that he couldn't do it these things. 764 00:43:30,024 --> 00:43:32,485 His personality is not like that. 765 00:43:32,693 --> 00:43:36,197 That was the key. He was led by a great mystery. 766 00:43:36,906 --> 00:43:38,616 And I like mysteries. 767 00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:45,331 When I first met Ted, smiling, he walked up to me, 768 00:43:45,915 --> 00:43:47,208 it was well planned 769 00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:49,502 clothes ironed. 770 00:43:50,419 --> 00:43:51,337 I will 771 00:43:52,338 --> 00:43:54,799 he stretched out his hand and said 772 00:43:55,341 --> 00:43:58,344 "Hi, I'm Ted Bundy. Sure Dr. Carlisle. " 773 00:43:59,178 --> 00:44:00,346 The psychologist 774 00:44:00,638 --> 00:44:03,057 he was an asshole. 775 00:44:03,516 --> 00:44:06,602 Surely there is that kind better word for mentality. 776 00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:10,148 Actually, I talked to him more often 777 00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:14,986 during his time in the Utah State Penitentiary, as with everyone else. 778 00:44:16,779 --> 00:44:19,699 I basically told him: “Ted, I understand. 779 00:44:19,866 --> 00:44:21,826 Let's talk about your life!" 780 00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:27,248 Bundy always painted a very positive image 781 00:44:27,957 --> 00:44:31,043 about his mother, his grandparents. 782 00:44:31,377 --> 00:44:34,172 My close friends and I played soccer a lot. 783 00:44:34,255 --> 00:44:35,715 I did athletics, 784 00:44:35,882 --> 00:44:37,425 I studied well. 785 00:44:38,092 --> 00:44:41,095 I never asked not even close to trouble. 786 00:44:41,554 --> 00:44:44,724 I talked to your family; They were great. 787 00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:49,103 I still can't believe it. This is simply incompetence. 788 00:44:49,187 --> 00:44:52,273 I just shake my head how is this possible! 789 00:44:52,523 --> 00:44:54,483 He had a lot of friends, 790 00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:59,280 good student, normal, active boy. 791 00:45:00,114 --> 00:45:02,366 Our son is the best son in the world! 792 00:45:03,284 --> 00:45:05,995 I talked to some people in Salt Lake, 793 00:45:06,078 --> 00:45:08,831 I also talked to my girlfriend. 794 00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:12,293 There were those who said: "There is another face. 795 00:45:12,376 --> 00:45:13,669 The side of a cake." 796 00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:17,882 A girl told me,� that they went to sleep once 797 00:45:18,591 --> 00:45:22,678 and put his head under the water, and held it down. 798 00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:24,513 Then he let go 799 00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:26,515 but as soon as he took a breath 800 00:45:26,641 --> 00:45:28,226 pressed again. 801 00:45:30,102 --> 00:45:32,521 The girl thought she was going to kill him. 802 00:45:35,066 --> 00:45:37,526 I learned that something is very important 803 00:45:38,152 --> 00:45:42,323 and an important thing happened, 804 00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:45,368 when he was only about 14 years old. 805 00:45:45,451 --> 00:45:49,205 It was found in the cutting register extract in an old well. 806 00:45:49,372 --> 00:45:51,874 In the "Father" section 807 00:45:53,125 --> 00:45:55,002 it said: "Unknown". 808 00:45:57,338 --> 00:46:00,591 how did you know that she gave birth out of wedlock. 809 00:46:02,718 --> 00:46:04,804 Ted's mother, Louise, became pregnant. 810 00:46:04,887 --> 00:46:08,140 and one reserved for unmarried mothers gave birth at home. 811 00:46:08,474 --> 00:46:11,227 Then he went home. 812 00:46:11,477 --> 00:46:13,479 She didn't want to keep the child. 813 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,566 But his father Ted's grandfather insisted on 814 00:46:17,692 --> 00:46:20,611 to go back to the city and take him home. 815 00:46:22,655 --> 00:46:26,158 When I asked about this, he answered: "�, that was no problem. 816 00:46:26,742 --> 00:46:28,369 It didn't bother me at all." 817 00:46:28,953 --> 00:46:31,539 This is the illegitimate child thing 818 00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:34,667 an amateur psychologist it's a big deal, 819 00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:37,670 and it's so stupid! It just annoys me. 820 00:46:37,753 --> 00:46:39,422 I don't know what I should do. 821 00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:41,549 After all, there are many, 822 00:46:41,757 --> 00:46:44,885 who let us know that they are illegal, or were they taken into custody? 823 00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:46,095 This is normal. 824 00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:50,349 Denial. 825 00:46:50,433 --> 00:46:52,560 This was a warning sign for me. 826 00:46:53,352 --> 00:46:55,771 The prison psychologist hoped so much, 827 00:46:55,855 --> 00:46:58,274 that you can let yourself go 828 00:46:58,357 --> 00:47:00,735 a peek into the world Ted Bundy's head, 829 00:47:01,027 --> 00:47:02,445 what could have happened 830 00:47:02,778 --> 00:47:05,406 Bundy is obviously twisted in his mind. 831 00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:10,494 It turned out to be Ted's grandfather he had a violent past. 832 00:47:11,245 --> 00:47:13,622 They suspected 833 00:47:13,706 --> 00:47:16,417 that Ted as a child some kind of punishment for: 834 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:17,918 mental or physical. 835 00:47:19,712 --> 00:47:22,590 We are nearing the end of the interrogation, 836 00:47:22,673 --> 00:47:25,217 And Ted and I were standing in front of my office. 837 00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:28,637 He asked, "Al, do you believe that I ended up with those girls 838 00:47:28,721 --> 00:47:31,557 those with the murder Do they suspect in the West?" 839 00:47:32,308 --> 00:47:35,144 I didn't mention them though. 840 00:47:35,394 --> 00:47:37,563 I stopped for a moment. 841 00:47:37,938 --> 00:47:39,273 i said 842 00:47:39,398 --> 00:47:42,693 "Ted, I don't know but if you did it yourself, you will continue." 843 00:47:43,527 --> 00:47:45,905 He looked scared for a moment, 844 00:47:46,072 --> 00:47:49,825 then he went back down the corridor to his cell. 845 00:47:50,576 --> 00:47:52,953 I submitted the report to the employer, 846 00:47:53,037 --> 00:47:59,835 that I think Ted has also has a violent side. 847 00:48:01,045 --> 00:48:04,256 Judge Hanson sent him to the Utah State Penitentiary. 848 00:48:04,382 --> 00:48:07,635 It ranges from one to ten, to serve an indefinite sentence. 849 00:48:11,055 --> 00:48:15,017 I stayed in touch with him even after being sent to prison. 850 00:48:15,142 --> 00:48:17,478 In more detail, as with the other main elements. 851 00:48:18,229 --> 00:48:20,564 I visited him regularly in prison. 852 00:48:21,273 --> 00:48:24,360 OCTOBER 21, 1976 853 00:48:24,819 --> 00:48:27,238 At the Utah State Prison I was in a visiting place 854 00:48:27,321 --> 00:48:29,907 With Bruce Lubeck. 855 00:48:30,032 --> 00:48:32,618 No more than 15 minutes with Bruce we talked, 856 00:48:32,701 --> 00:48:35,704 when the security door opened. 857 00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:38,916 Three men entered. 858 00:48:39,417 --> 00:48:42,420 They came closer and approached: "Mr. Bundy, our arrest warrant." 859 00:48:42,503 --> 00:48:47,091 I'm against Caryn Campbell murdered in Colorado. 860 00:48:47,633 --> 00:48:50,386 BUNDY WAS ARRESTED IN COLORADO POLICE MURDER GROUP 861 00:48:50,678 --> 00:48:53,973 Bundy according to the results of the external investigation married suspect in Colorado. 862 00:48:55,141 --> 00:48:57,977 They had direct evidence of 863 00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:01,313 that Bundy is snowmassi It was at Wildwood Inn. 864 00:49:02,523 --> 00:49:04,650 With research permit 865 00:49:04,775 --> 00:49:07,319 They searched Ted's apartment in Salt Lake, 866 00:49:07,403 --> 00:49:10,573 and there they found a brochure from the Wildwood Inn, 867 00:49:10,656 --> 00:49:12,533 where Caryn Campbell also lived. 868 00:49:12,825 --> 00:49:15,453 We delivered this to Colorado. 869 00:49:16,036 --> 00:49:19,915 Then the Colorado police got it Put your gas station receipts, 870 00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:23,794 And they made it a few kilometers away From Caryn Campbell 871 00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:25,337 on the evening of the disappearance. 872 00:49:26,255 --> 00:49:29,467 An eyewitness reported, who on the same day 873 00:49:30,176 --> 00:49:32,845 saw Ted in the elevator. 874 00:49:34,555 --> 00:49:38,350 Intentional, planned in advance protected by human rights, 875 00:49:38,434 --> 00:49:41,103 which was the death penalty at the time dragged along. 876 00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:46,108 Utah extradited Ted to Colorado, which was a very unusual step. 877 00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:49,904 But the Colorado one was a killer, which was considered more serious. 878 00:49:50,196 --> 00:49:52,531 They believed Bundy would start against extradition, 879 00:49:52,615 --> 00:49:54,617 but this morning he did it with a Utah skin, 880 00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:56,535 that you are ready to travel to Colorado. 881 00:49:56,619 --> 00:49:58,454 Why didn't Ted challenge the extradition? 882 00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,707 He is confident he can win in Colorado. 883 00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:04,627 He trusts that it will be carried out you can win the negotiation. 884 00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:05,878 There will be. 885 00:50:08,839 --> 00:50:12,468 He lived in Aspen Prison, while waiting for the negotiation. 886 00:50:14,345 --> 00:50:15,638 When we went to Colorado 887 00:50:15,721 --> 00:50:19,183 we observed a significant change in Mr. Bundy regarding 888 00:50:19,308 --> 00:50:21,185 as he thought about the legal system. 889 00:50:22,311 --> 00:50:24,772 I visited him in the county jail, 890 00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:27,566 which was ready time travel. 891 00:50:28,901 --> 00:50:32,196 Basement, low ceiling height cells with grids. 892 00:50:32,363 --> 00:50:34,532 A classic, old prison. 893 00:50:35,741 --> 00:50:38,410 Down there, he was standing with a knife. 894 00:50:38,702 --> 00:50:41,664 He did it completely useless note, 895 00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:44,917 whereupon he got terribly excited. 896 00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:48,837 His face was bleeding, he was snarling, shaking. 897 00:50:50,214 --> 00:50:52,550 And they sinned with him, like everyone else. 898 00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:56,595 As if it were normal and he was unable to bear this. 899 00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:01,267 I don't like being locked in. I don't like losing my freedom. 900 00:51:01,350 --> 00:51:03,102 I don't like being treated like an animal, 901 00:51:03,185 --> 00:51:05,771 �nor if they stare at me, 902 00:51:05,854 --> 00:51:08,899 as if we were some kind of miracle bug, because I'm not. 903 00:51:09,984 --> 00:51:11,026 Being in prison, 904 00:51:11,860 --> 00:51:13,404 to kill hell 905 00:51:14,238 --> 00:51:15,447 makes a person more fearful. 906 00:51:15,531 --> 00:51:18,576 I think it was useful for me too. 907 00:51:20,953 --> 00:51:22,871 He wasn't my favorite guy. 908 00:51:22,955 --> 00:51:24,748 He was very egocentric. 909 00:51:25,082 --> 00:51:26,333 When I visited 910 00:51:26,417 --> 00:51:28,877 he always talked only about himself. 911 00:51:28,961 --> 00:51:30,462 Never from �gyr�l. 912 00:51:30,546 --> 00:51:32,881 He didn't mention his children from other countries either. 913 00:51:33,716 --> 00:51:35,968 Our conversations were completely intense, 914 00:51:36,427 --> 00:51:38,470 Everything important was taken care of. 915 00:51:40,139 --> 00:51:43,642 Yes, I know about it... My course ends in a month 916 00:51:44,852 --> 00:51:45,978 at the Faculty of Law. 917 00:51:46,145 --> 00:51:48,731 I bet from any of them I know more about law. 918 00:51:48,897 --> 00:51:50,858 What is it like to graduate? 919 00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:54,278 The heater. That's really hot. 920 00:51:56,030 --> 00:51:59,700 Bundy in this 16-cell county jail spends his days. 921 00:52:00,242 --> 00:52:02,244 He gets up at half past six in the morning, 922 00:52:02,411 --> 00:52:05,789 according to him, 3 kilometers per day he is sitting in his cell. 923 00:52:06,373 --> 00:52:09,710 But time is a big part of defense fills it with preparation. 924 00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:12,963 I guess I should start with to ask how you feel. 925 00:52:14,465 --> 00:52:17,843 A short question, to which there is a long answer. 926 00:52:18,177 --> 00:52:20,596 I'm here I feel good. 927 00:52:21,013 --> 00:52:22,640 I work hard on my child. 928 00:52:24,433 --> 00:52:26,894 Much more sunlight and fresh air, 929 00:52:26,977 --> 00:52:28,562 but other than that I'm fine. 930 00:52:28,646 --> 00:52:31,523 Can you go outside in the air, in the sun? Is it allowed to air? 931 00:52:31,607 --> 00:52:35,903 Well, they let me go to the library. and 40 meters from here in the parking lot 932 00:52:35,986 --> 00:52:40,282 to the book. Then I'll air it out. 933 00:52:40,366 --> 00:52:42,826 Ted, at the time of publication, when he came from Salt Lake, 934 00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:44,787 issued a statement 935 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,455 that he feels 936 00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:49,416 that everything will be fine because it is innocent. 937 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:50,501 Do you still want it? 938 00:52:50,584 --> 00:52:52,878 and sure. Stronger than ever. 939 00:52:52,961 --> 00:52:55,464 I am confident and I know that I am right. 940 00:52:55,547 --> 00:52:57,216 And yes, I feel, they will go up. 941 00:52:57,299 --> 00:52:58,759 Doubt can't bring it either. 942 00:53:00,761 --> 00:53:02,137 It should be kept closer. 943 00:53:02,221 --> 00:53:04,515 Let me ask you something! 944 00:53:04,973 --> 00:53:06,183 It's not a sin, is it? 945 00:53:07,351 --> 00:53:08,727 No, I'm not guilty. 946 00:53:10,646 --> 00:53:14,775 As this includes when I stole a comic book with my brother? 947 00:53:14,858 --> 00:53:18,028 No, in the lawsuits filed against me I am not guilty. 948 00:53:18,112 --> 00:53:19,321 and the beautiful words? 949 00:53:19,655 --> 00:53:21,907 - and the animals... - and the rumours. 950 00:53:22,074 --> 00:53:24,535 I have no idea what you're talking about, Lucky. 951 00:53:24,618 --> 00:53:27,538 This is normal for you, but I can't go into the details. 952 00:53:29,123 --> 00:53:31,625 I'll settle for that with my final statement, 953 00:53:32,334 --> 00:53:34,169 that I am innocent. 954 00:53:35,337 --> 00:53:37,131 No one is completely innocent. 955 00:53:37,256 --> 00:53:40,968 We have all sinned at some point during our lives. 956 00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:42,136 As for me, 957 00:53:42,928 --> 00:53:44,263 I was also rude 958 00:53:44,346 --> 00:53:47,850 and I did things that I regretted 959 00:53:49,435 --> 00:53:50,269 but 960 00:53:50,811 --> 00:53:54,022 not even close to the things you referred to. 961 00:53:54,815 --> 00:53:58,485 - Have you ever physically punished anyone? - Did I offend someone? 962 00:53:59,361 --> 00:54:00,237 Not. 963 00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:02,906 Not. 964 00:54:03,574 --> 00:54:04,450 You know... 965 00:54:06,285 --> 00:54:09,830 I can only repeat myself; I did not do what you are referring to. 966 00:54:15,002 --> 00:54:16,962 Are you thinking about release? 967 00:54:17,588 --> 00:54:18,630 Well... 968 00:54:19,173 --> 00:54:20,966 Within legal frameworks, of course. 969 00:54:32,394 --> 00:54:35,773 As the weeks and months passed, and spring has ended, 970 00:54:36,273 --> 00:54:38,650 one possibility followed another. 971 00:54:38,734 --> 00:54:42,070 And I became more and more impatient. 972 00:54:44,865 --> 00:54:47,659 I mentally prepared for it for weeks. 973 00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:50,037 According to the word, every week. 974 00:54:52,206 --> 00:54:58,670 I started jumping off the ledge in my cell at the Garfield County Jail. 975 00:54:58,879 --> 00:55:02,049 I jumped down again and again and again from the top to the floor, 976 00:55:02,132 --> 00:55:04,593 to prepare my feet for landing. 977 00:55:06,595 --> 00:55:08,680 I measured the distance in my head 978 00:55:08,764 --> 00:55:10,849 between the corner of the dungeon and the alley, 979 00:55:10,933 --> 00:55:12,643 and from the alley to the river, 980 00:55:12,726 --> 00:55:14,228 and from the river to the mountains. 981 00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:21,068 Then I checked my cell, �and I ran that distance. 982 00:55:21,568 --> 00:55:23,695 I ran over and over again. 983 00:55:25,489 --> 00:55:28,408 I practiced how fast I can fill 984 00:55:28,492 --> 00:55:31,286 from the trench coat to shorts, 985 00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,414 �and I blew my hair, 986 00:55:35,123 --> 00:55:36,750 to paint more. 987 00:55:39,044 --> 00:55:40,796 I finally stood there. 988 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,881 I hesitated. 989 00:55:43,090 --> 00:55:46,218 I can't believe it, what thoughts I was writing in my mind. 990 00:55:46,552 --> 00:55:47,511 We could be free. 991 00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:52,891 The windows are wide open, Fresh air came in, it was blue. 992 00:55:55,018 --> 00:55:58,939 I said: "I'm ready." Then I went to the window and jumped out. 993 00:56:55,078 --> 00:56:58,123 The inscription was translated by: Cs�sz�r H�di