1 00:00:05,194 --> 00:00:07,896 Previously on Criminal Minds: Evolution... 2 00:00:07,996 --> 00:00:10,765 -They will let anybody up on the sixth floor now, huh? -(chuckling) 3 00:00:10,865 --> 00:00:11,833 MILLIKEN: Alvez and I 4 00:00:11,933 --> 00:00:13,702 are retired Army grunts. 5 00:00:13,835 --> 00:00:15,237 We met in the ARC Program. 6 00:00:15,370 --> 00:00:17,072 The Army Recovery Care Program. 7 00:00:17,206 --> 00:00:19,574 We help ill and injured service members 8 00:00:19,708 --> 00:00:21,876 reintegrate into civilian life. 9 00:00:21,976 --> 00:00:23,412 -(whimpers) -DOCTOR: The tumor's spread. 10 00:00:23,512 --> 00:00:25,114 There's nothing else we can do. 11 00:00:25,214 --> 00:00:26,648 (crying) 12 00:00:26,748 --> 00:00:28,317 I'm sorry. 13 00:00:28,383 --> 00:00:31,253 Hey. Sorry to interrupt. Do you have a second? 14 00:00:31,353 --> 00:00:32,721 If you'll excuse me. 15 00:00:32,821 --> 00:00:34,389 Did you notice how he checked you out? 16 00:00:34,523 --> 00:00:36,658 You look like his wife who just left him. 17 00:00:36,758 --> 00:00:38,927 GARRITY: Welcome to The Sicarius Files. 18 00:00:39,060 --> 00:00:40,829 I'm your host, Brian Garrity. 19 00:00:40,895 --> 00:00:42,997 My guest, the Sicarius Killer himself, 20 00:00:43,098 --> 00:00:45,066 Elias Voit. 21 00:00:46,235 --> 00:00:47,802 Whoa! 22 00:00:48,703 --> 00:00:49,871 (grunts) 23 00:00:49,971 --> 00:00:51,740 Saved you a whole bunch of fan letters. 24 00:00:54,943 --> 00:00:56,378 VOIT: It's sad how pathetic I am. 25 00:00:56,445 --> 00:00:57,946 But you know who's even more pathetic? 26 00:00:58,079 --> 00:01:00,115 Someone who makes a show about it. 27 00:01:00,215 --> 00:01:02,451 And anyone who listens to it. 28 00:01:02,551 --> 00:01:05,187 LEWIS: Lance Kingston is the one who took those photos. 29 00:01:05,254 --> 00:01:07,456 -But he's not the guy who sent it to you. -Turns out 30 00:01:07,589 --> 00:01:09,224 your fan stole them. 31 00:01:09,324 --> 00:01:11,260 VOIT: Lance, he's just a means to an end. 32 00:01:11,393 --> 00:01:13,262 He's a sacrificial pawn. 33 00:01:13,362 --> 00:01:14,829 * * 34 00:01:17,699 --> 00:01:19,868 * * 35 00:01:35,717 --> 00:01:37,752 (pants) Perimeter breached. 36 00:01:37,819 --> 00:01:38,920 Ground floor. 37 00:01:39,020 --> 00:01:40,922 One casualty. Outer corridor. 38 00:01:40,989 --> 00:01:42,724 BARLOW: Do you have visual? 39 00:01:42,791 --> 00:01:44,393 (breathing heavily) 40 00:01:44,459 --> 00:01:45,860 Negative. 41 00:01:51,131 --> 00:01:53,602 You motherfuckers! 42 00:01:54,935 --> 00:01:57,071 HELM: Reload! Reload! 43 00:02:00,642 --> 00:02:02,043 On my lead. 44 00:02:02,143 --> 00:02:03,044 Moving. 45 00:02:03,144 --> 00:02:04,145 HELM: Agents under fire. 46 00:02:04,246 --> 00:02:05,380 We need backup immediately. 47 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,515 BARLOW: Copy. 48 00:02:06,648 --> 00:02:08,450 Backup's on the way. 49 00:02:11,186 --> 00:02:13,622 WOMAN: No. (crying) 50 00:02:14,656 --> 00:02:16,124 MILLIKEN: Shut up. 51 00:02:16,225 --> 00:02:18,427 Shut... up. 52 00:02:18,527 --> 00:02:19,528 WOMAN: Please, don't. 53 00:02:19,628 --> 00:02:22,364 (crying continues) 54 00:02:22,497 --> 00:02:24,966 Hey, you take one more fucking step... 55 00:02:25,066 --> 00:02:25,900 Hmm? 56 00:02:25,999 --> 00:02:27,702 Easy, now. We want to help. 57 00:02:27,836 --> 00:02:29,671 -I don't want to die. -No one's gonna get hurt. 58 00:02:29,771 --> 00:02:31,840 Don't you fucking lie to her. 59 00:02:31,940 --> 00:02:33,007 Sir, just put the gun down. 60 00:02:33,107 --> 00:02:35,610 -Look, what's your name? -Fuck you! 61 00:02:35,677 --> 00:02:39,248 That's my name. Why you keeping them from me? 62 00:02:39,348 --> 00:02:41,015 -Keeping what from you, sir? -My meds! 63 00:02:41,115 --> 00:02:43,985 -I need my goddamn meds. -Okay. 64 00:02:44,085 --> 00:02:46,987 Okay, put the gun down, let the woman go, and I... 65 00:02:47,055 --> 00:02:48,623 Hey! 66 00:02:49,491 --> 00:02:51,860 You think I don't fucking see you over there? 67 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,094 Huh? 68 00:02:54,396 --> 00:02:56,164 You want this little lady to die? 69 00:02:56,231 --> 00:02:57,532 No! Sir, sir. 70 00:02:57,632 --> 00:03:00,402 -We do not. -Then give me my goddamn meds! 71 00:03:00,502 --> 00:03:01,836 BARLOW: Agent Lowell, 72 00:03:01,903 --> 00:03:03,204 is target acquired? 73 00:03:03,305 --> 00:03:06,441 -Negative. -Reposition. Acquire target. 74 00:03:08,009 --> 00:03:09,478 -(woman moans) -HELM: Miss, 75 00:03:09,578 --> 00:03:11,513 what's your name? 76 00:03:11,613 --> 00:03:13,214 -Melissa... -Don't! 77 00:03:13,315 --> 00:03:16,150 Don't talk to her! 78 00:03:16,918 --> 00:03:19,020 -You talk to me! -Command, target has been acquired. 79 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,155 You understand?! 80 00:03:21,222 --> 00:03:23,224 Oh-ho-ho! 81 00:03:23,358 --> 00:03:24,659 I have the shot. 82 00:03:24,759 --> 00:03:26,661 This guy over here, huh? This guy over here, 83 00:03:26,761 --> 00:03:28,530 he wants to kill me so bad that he can taste it. 84 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:30,299 Except, what if he misses, hmm? 85 00:03:30,399 --> 00:03:32,767 -And this little one takes the hit. -Sir? 86 00:03:32,901 --> 00:03:34,436 Enough of this bullshit. 87 00:03:34,569 --> 00:03:36,237 Okay? Enough! 88 00:03:36,371 --> 00:03:37,939 Okay? 89 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:40,742 I'm gonna count to three, and either you get me 90 00:03:40,874 --> 00:03:44,078 -my goddamn meds or I'm gonna blow her fucking head off. -Please, no. No. 91 00:03:44,177 --> 00:03:45,580 BARLOW: Lowell, you're clear. 92 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,316 Send it. 93 00:03:48,417 --> 00:03:49,584 MILLIKEN: Okay? 94 00:03:49,684 --> 00:03:50,752 One. 95 00:03:50,885 --> 00:03:52,487 WOMAN: Just give him what he wants! 96 00:03:52,587 --> 00:03:54,556 -Two. -Sir, you kill her, 97 00:03:54,623 --> 00:03:56,157 -we kill you! -BARLOW: Take the shot. 98 00:03:56,257 --> 00:03:57,626 Three! 99 00:03:59,927 --> 00:04:02,096 (panting) 100 00:04:04,098 --> 00:04:06,601 What the fuck? What the fuck? 101 00:04:07,469 --> 00:04:08,937 I took the shot. 102 00:04:09,070 --> 00:04:11,105 Holy shit. What'd you do? 103 00:04:11,205 --> 00:04:13,074 Abort, abort! Abort the exercise! 104 00:04:13,174 --> 00:04:15,477 (bell rings) 105 00:04:15,577 --> 00:04:17,846 That was a live fucking round. 106 00:04:17,946 --> 00:04:20,348 -Holy shit. -Get O'Connor. 107 00:04:21,215 --> 00:04:22,250 HELM: O'Connor! 108 00:04:22,351 --> 00:04:24,353 We need medical. Stat! 109 00:04:25,654 --> 00:04:27,556 Secure your weapons now. 110 00:04:27,656 --> 00:04:29,891 -Magazine check. -I got blanks. 111 00:04:31,426 --> 00:04:33,294 Same. 112 00:04:33,428 --> 00:04:34,696 Billy? 113 00:04:35,997 --> 00:04:37,566 Billy, we're unarmed. 114 00:04:37,666 --> 00:04:39,734 Okay? Put down the gun. 115 00:04:40,802 --> 00:04:42,537 Talk to us, Billy. 116 00:04:42,637 --> 00:04:44,839 Medical's coming. 117 00:04:48,309 --> 00:04:49,844 He's dead. 118 00:04:53,247 --> 00:04:54,616 I took the shot. 119 00:04:55,417 --> 00:04:57,085 -MAN (over radio): Security. -Initiate lockdown. 120 00:04:57,185 --> 00:04:58,953 Now. We have an active shooter. 121 00:04:59,020 --> 00:05:01,523 This is not a drill. I repeat, this is not a drill. 122 00:05:01,656 --> 00:05:03,825 -Copy. -HELM: Billy, in about 30 seconds, 123 00:05:03,958 --> 00:05:05,159 the real deal is barreling in here, 124 00:05:05,293 --> 00:05:06,761 and they will kill you. 125 00:05:06,861 --> 00:05:08,363 Hey, you don't want any more blood on your hands, 126 00:05:08,497 --> 00:05:10,164 do you, Billy? Please. 127 00:05:10,264 --> 00:05:11,866 Hand me that weapon. 128 00:05:13,167 --> 00:05:15,937 Let me help you, Billy, okay? 129 00:05:17,105 --> 00:05:18,807 Hey. 130 00:05:25,814 --> 00:05:27,449 I don't fucking get it, man. 131 00:05:27,516 --> 00:05:29,618 (handcuffs clicking) 132 00:05:29,684 --> 00:05:32,253 Hey, what were you thinking? 133 00:05:33,187 --> 00:05:35,557 I had... I had the shot. 134 00:05:38,727 --> 00:05:40,194 I took the shot. 135 00:05:40,294 --> 00:05:42,296 ANNOUNCER (over P.A.): Attention, all personnel. 136 00:05:42,397 --> 00:05:44,298 This is an emergency. 137 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:46,067 You are under lockdown. 138 00:05:46,167 --> 00:05:48,703 Remain in your location until further notice. 139 00:05:48,803 --> 00:05:50,371 This is not a drill. 140 00:05:50,472 --> 00:05:52,707 I repeat, this is not a drill. 141 00:05:52,841 --> 00:05:55,043 * 142 00:06:00,882 --> 00:06:03,384 ALVEZ: "We cannot grow when we are in shame, 143 00:06:03,485 --> 00:06:07,689 and we can't use shame to change ourselves or others." 144 00:06:07,756 --> 00:06:09,157 Brené Brown. 145 00:06:09,223 --> 00:06:12,193 So, Tom Milliken was shot? 146 00:06:12,293 --> 00:06:14,863 During a training exercise for selectees 147 00:06:14,963 --> 00:06:16,498 from the Hostage Rescue Team. 148 00:06:16,565 --> 00:06:18,467 An exercise with live rounds? 149 00:06:18,567 --> 00:06:19,801 Well, there's a lot to unpack here, 150 00:06:19,901 --> 00:06:21,503 which is why Rebecca has asked the BAU 151 00:06:21,570 --> 00:06:22,671 to get eyes on it. 152 00:06:22,771 --> 00:06:23,938 God, does Alvez know yet? 153 00:06:24,072 --> 00:06:25,540 He's on scene with JJ. 154 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,008 -(sighs) -(ringtone playing) 155 00:06:27,075 --> 00:06:29,210 Tom Milliken was like family to him. 156 00:06:29,277 --> 00:06:30,879 -Oh. -(phone beeps) 157 00:06:30,978 --> 00:06:34,382 Brian, what have I told you about phone calls on Saturdays? 158 00:06:34,483 --> 00:06:36,618 Emily, I wouldn't trouble you 159 00:06:36,751 --> 00:06:38,620 were it not of the utmost importance. 160 00:06:38,753 --> 00:06:41,690 I have, in my possession, evidence 161 00:06:41,790 --> 00:06:43,424 of a pre-crime. 162 00:06:43,525 --> 00:06:45,226 What the fuck is a "pre-crime"? 163 00:06:45,326 --> 00:06:47,261 -Is that Tara? -Hi, Brian. 164 00:06:47,361 --> 00:06:48,630 PRENTISS: What's with this 165 00:06:48,730 --> 00:06:50,331 pre-crime? 166 00:06:50,430 --> 00:06:52,400 It's the thing that happens before one commits said crime. 167 00:06:52,501 --> 00:06:55,537 No, I get the term. What is it you think you have? 168 00:06:55,603 --> 00:06:58,573 Oh, dare I say, a manifesto, of sorts. 169 00:06:58,673 --> 00:07:00,575 Addressed to me by a fan. 170 00:07:00,642 --> 00:07:01,976 It says, and here I quote, 171 00:07:02,076 --> 00:07:05,446 "Some may call me a fan, but He must call me God." 172 00:07:05,547 --> 00:07:08,483 And since this same declaration is typed 173 00:07:08,583 --> 00:07:10,051 over and over again like... 174 00:07:10,118 --> 00:07:12,721 Do you remember Jack Nicholson's character in The Shining? 175 00:07:12,821 --> 00:07:15,590 Like, he starts to go wacko and he types this one sentence 176 00:07:15,657 --> 00:07:16,891 over and over and over. 177 00:07:16,958 --> 00:07:18,793 "All work and no play makes..." 178 00:07:18,893 --> 00:07:21,395 -Yeah, I've seen the movie. -Well, you should see this. 179 00:07:21,496 --> 00:07:24,899 Not only has he repeatedly typed his affirmation, 180 00:07:24,966 --> 00:07:27,435 but he's also printed it into shapes. 181 00:07:27,536 --> 00:07:31,405 The whole thing is so wackadoodle, it's like-- 182 00:07:31,472 --> 00:07:33,675 and admittedly, I'm no profiler-- 183 00:07:33,775 --> 00:07:35,977 he's clearly itching to do no good. 184 00:07:36,845 --> 00:07:38,179 Where are you? 185 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:39,548 Not far. 186 00:07:39,648 --> 00:07:42,150 Literally around the proverbial corner. 187 00:07:42,250 --> 00:07:43,818 You really should take a look-see. 188 00:07:43,952 --> 00:07:46,254 Okay, I'll have a visitor's pass waiting for you. 189 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,922 God, when it rains, it pours. 190 00:07:47,989 --> 00:07:49,691 Okay, look, Dave and I can handle this for you. 191 00:07:49,824 --> 00:07:51,159 -Thank you. -(phone chimes) 192 00:07:51,259 --> 00:07:52,694 Yeah, I have to get to the training facility. 193 00:07:52,827 --> 00:07:54,362 Yeah, yeah. 194 00:07:54,495 --> 00:07:56,831 MILLIKEN: ...or I'm gonna blow her fucking head off. 195 00:07:56,965 --> 00:07:59,233 -One! -WOMAN: Just give him 196 00:07:59,333 --> 00:08:00,635 -what he wants! -Two! 197 00:08:00,735 --> 00:08:02,704 HELM: Sir, you kill her, we kill you! 198 00:08:02,837 --> 00:08:04,472 -Three! -Who else knows? -(gunshot) 199 00:08:04,573 --> 00:08:07,108 (sighs) With the lockdown, we're on a need-to-know basis. 200 00:08:07,175 --> 00:08:08,877 Director, A.G., president. 201 00:08:09,010 --> 00:08:12,313 I'd say the news blackout holds another 24 hours. 202 00:08:12,380 --> 00:08:13,548 But it's not like we have 203 00:08:13,682 --> 00:08:14,616 a lot of friends in this administration. 204 00:08:14,683 --> 00:08:16,317 An agent-on-agent incident 205 00:08:16,417 --> 00:08:18,319 like this is exactly the kind of pretext 206 00:08:18,386 --> 00:08:20,722 that they can use to gut the department. 207 00:08:21,322 --> 00:08:22,824 Peter. 208 00:08:22,924 --> 00:08:25,126 I am so sorry. 209 00:08:25,193 --> 00:08:26,761 It's still hard to believe. 210 00:08:26,861 --> 00:08:28,196 Uh, Emily, this is Peter O'Connor, 211 00:08:28,296 --> 00:08:29,530 Milliken's chief of staff. 212 00:08:29,664 --> 00:08:31,833 Tom spoke very highly of you and your team. 213 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:34,368 He brought you a case recently, didn't he? 214 00:08:34,468 --> 00:08:37,137 He did. An equivocal death investigation. 215 00:08:37,204 --> 00:08:39,907 And, incredibly, he's now the subject of one. 216 00:08:40,041 --> 00:08:42,343 Well, not so equivocal, I'm afraid. 217 00:08:42,410 --> 00:08:44,478 Agent Selectee Billy Lowell fired the fatal shot. 218 00:08:44,545 --> 00:08:47,215 His weapon was the only one with live rounds. 219 00:08:47,315 --> 00:08:49,851 Yes, that seems evident. However, officially, 220 00:08:49,951 --> 00:08:51,653 there still needs to be a determination 221 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,487 of homicide or accidental death. 222 00:08:53,554 --> 00:08:54,789 Of course. 223 00:08:54,889 --> 00:08:57,025 I know it's been a while since I was in training, 224 00:08:57,125 --> 00:08:59,060 but is it common now for H.R.T. 225 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,696 to conduct an exercise with actors and real weapons? 226 00:09:01,763 --> 00:09:04,432 Uh, no, it's not common. 227 00:09:04,532 --> 00:09:06,100 But Tom had his own methodology. 228 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,702 And carte blanche from up top. 229 00:09:07,802 --> 00:09:10,171 If he wanted to do something, he did it. 230 00:09:10,271 --> 00:09:12,506 In this case, he felt that the selectees 231 00:09:12,607 --> 00:09:15,509 were in need of a far more "real world" experience. 232 00:09:15,576 --> 00:09:19,714 So, did this exercise include the entire selectee class? 233 00:09:19,814 --> 00:09:22,116 No, just Agents Helm, Barlow and Lowell. 234 00:09:22,216 --> 00:09:23,551 They were a three-man unit. 235 00:09:23,652 --> 00:09:24,919 PRENTISS: Well, Agent Lowell 236 00:09:25,053 --> 00:09:27,021 is already in custody, but we are going to need 237 00:09:27,088 --> 00:09:29,390 to interview Agents Helm and Barlow, as well. 238 00:09:29,490 --> 00:09:31,459 -Sure. -Has the medical examiner 239 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,127 taken possession of the body? 240 00:09:33,261 --> 00:09:35,196 Uh, he's doing that right now. 241 00:09:35,263 --> 00:09:37,131 Excuse me. 242 00:09:44,272 --> 00:09:45,774 Luke. 243 00:09:45,907 --> 00:09:47,809 I need a minute. 244 00:09:49,477 --> 00:09:52,947 I tried to tell him that maybe he should sit this one out. 245 00:09:53,047 --> 00:09:54,783 Yeah. (sighs) 246 00:09:58,352 --> 00:09:59,788 (elevator bell dings) 247 00:10:00,655 --> 00:10:02,123 LEWIS: Brian. 248 00:10:02,256 --> 00:10:03,491 Tara. 249 00:10:03,624 --> 00:10:07,561 Well, I-- what a delight it is to see you again. 250 00:10:07,662 --> 00:10:09,764 -Uh, where's Emily? -ROSSI: She thought it best 251 00:10:09,831 --> 00:10:13,334 that Tara and I took a look at what you've got. 252 00:10:14,435 --> 00:10:16,470 Okay. Um... 253 00:10:16,604 --> 00:10:18,539 the thing is, given our previous history, 254 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:20,574 wouldn't it be better if Tara and I were to... 255 00:10:20,675 --> 00:10:23,544 No. This way. 256 00:10:30,018 --> 00:10:32,086 LEWIS: "Some may call me a fan, 257 00:10:32,186 --> 00:10:35,356 but He must call me God." 258 00:10:35,456 --> 00:10:36,725 What'd I tell you? 259 00:10:36,825 --> 00:10:38,626 (imitating Danny Torrance): Redrum. Redrum. 260 00:10:38,727 --> 00:10:39,961 When did you get this? 261 00:10:40,061 --> 00:10:41,529 -(normal voice): Yesterday. -Yesterday? 262 00:10:41,629 --> 00:10:43,231 I opened it today. 263 00:10:44,332 --> 00:10:46,500 Uh, oh. 264 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,337 Postmark Kensington, Pennsylvania. 265 00:10:50,138 --> 00:10:52,273 You guys have seen this before, haven't you? 266 00:10:53,141 --> 00:10:54,876 Would you give us a second? 267 00:10:55,009 --> 00:10:57,011 Don't touch anything. 268 00:11:02,683 --> 00:11:05,920 It's virtually identical to what he sent to Voit. 269 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:07,889 But why does he send it to Garrity? 270 00:11:08,723 --> 00:11:10,725 He is listening to Garrity's podcast. 271 00:11:10,859 --> 00:11:13,461 But the message still goes to Voit. 272 00:11:13,561 --> 00:11:14,829 Kowtowing son of a bitch 273 00:11:14,929 --> 00:11:18,232 even capitalized the "H" in "He." 274 00:11:18,332 --> 00:11:20,401 Conveying some kind of godlike status to Voit. 275 00:11:20,501 --> 00:11:24,205 A status that this guy wants to share. 276 00:11:24,305 --> 00:11:27,241 Okay, so, what? He's trying to prod Garrity 277 00:11:27,341 --> 00:11:29,043 into getting Voit back on his podcast? 278 00:11:29,143 --> 00:11:30,544 He hopes, on bended knee, 279 00:11:30,644 --> 00:11:32,914 that, what, Voit's gonna call him a god, too? 280 00:11:33,014 --> 00:11:36,217 Yeah, old god crowns the new one. 281 00:11:37,051 --> 00:11:38,787 What are you thinking? 282 00:11:39,988 --> 00:11:42,723 You're not gonna like it, but, um... 283 00:11:45,393 --> 00:11:47,461 ...we need to take this to Voit. 284 00:11:47,561 --> 00:11:49,397 Of course we need to take it to Voit. 285 00:11:49,530 --> 00:11:51,099 I know we need to take it to Voit. 286 00:11:51,232 --> 00:11:52,934 Wait, why would I not like that? 287 00:11:53,034 --> 00:11:54,702 You're the one that doesn't want to be around the guy. 288 00:11:54,769 --> 00:11:56,704 But you're the one who has to make sure 289 00:11:56,771 --> 00:12:00,108 that Garrity doesn't feel that we're shining him on. 290 00:12:00,208 --> 00:12:02,243 We're completely shining him on. 291 00:12:02,343 --> 00:12:03,878 But we can't let him share what he knows. 292 00:12:03,945 --> 00:12:06,180 Yeah, you're right. I know it. I know. 293 00:12:06,247 --> 00:12:08,682 I just... just because I look like the guy's ex 294 00:12:08,749 --> 00:12:11,419 doesn't mean that I have to be the go-to strategy here. 295 00:12:11,552 --> 00:12:14,622 Okay, I'm open to another. 296 00:12:15,456 --> 00:12:16,624 I don't have another. 297 00:12:16,757 --> 00:12:19,060 Look, I'm not asking you to babysit him. 298 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,429 Just, uh, tell him to go home 299 00:12:21,529 --> 00:12:23,731 and wait for further instructions. 300 00:12:23,798 --> 00:12:28,102 Let him feel like he's part of some special investigation. 301 00:12:28,970 --> 00:12:30,538 He trusts you. 302 00:12:30,604 --> 00:12:31,940 (sighs) 303 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,108 (sighs) Fine. 304 00:12:39,613 --> 00:12:41,715 We really appreciate you bringing this to our attention. 305 00:12:41,816 --> 00:12:44,118 You free later tonight? 306 00:12:44,953 --> 00:12:45,854 Excuse me? 307 00:12:45,954 --> 00:12:48,056 Free. For, like, dinner, drinks? 308 00:12:48,122 --> 00:12:50,558 I mean, I know the timing isn't great, in the middle of 309 00:12:50,658 --> 00:12:52,393 a hunt for a serial killer and all. 310 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:53,995 I'm married, Brian. 311 00:12:55,196 --> 00:12:56,998 When did... 312 00:12:57,098 --> 00:12:58,432 Mazel tov. 313 00:12:58,532 --> 00:12:59,667 -Thank you. -Yeah. 314 00:12:59,767 --> 00:13:01,069 Lucky guy. 315 00:13:01,169 --> 00:13:02,803 Gal. 316 00:13:04,038 --> 00:13:05,306 Oh. 317 00:13:05,406 --> 00:13:06,640 Yeah. 318 00:13:06,740 --> 00:13:08,642 So, let's focus here. 319 00:13:08,742 --> 00:13:12,180 Brian, the BAU needs you to help us start 320 00:13:12,313 --> 00:13:14,748 a special covert investigation. 321 00:13:14,815 --> 00:13:16,317 -Covert? -That is right. 322 00:13:16,417 --> 00:13:20,288 So, what were gonna need you to do is go home... now 323 00:13:20,388 --> 00:13:22,756 and wait for this unsub to reach out to you again. 324 00:13:22,857 --> 00:13:24,658 And when they do, you're gonna call me, 325 00:13:24,758 --> 00:13:26,427 and we'll proceed from there. 326 00:13:28,096 --> 00:13:29,363 Call you. 327 00:13:29,497 --> 00:13:31,699 Yes, that's-that's right. 328 00:13:31,832 --> 00:13:33,401 I don't have your number. 329 00:13:34,302 --> 00:13:36,304 I'll give you my work number. 330 00:13:36,404 --> 00:13:38,539 It's the switchboard. 331 00:13:54,488 --> 00:13:56,557 Do you want to talk about it? 332 00:13:59,894 --> 00:14:02,730 It's not good to constipate emotions. 333 00:14:03,531 --> 00:14:06,267 I don't know why I just said it like that. Um... 334 00:14:09,037 --> 00:14:12,673 But, come on, I don't have to tell you. 335 00:14:12,773 --> 00:14:14,642 That the deeper you push down grief, 336 00:14:14,742 --> 00:14:16,877 the more painful it's gonna become. 337 00:14:16,978 --> 00:14:18,579 You just did. 338 00:14:18,712 --> 00:14:19,847 Just did what? 339 00:14:19,948 --> 00:14:22,316 You said you're not gonna tell me, 340 00:14:22,416 --> 00:14:24,218 -and then you did. -Oh, don't deflect. 341 00:14:24,318 --> 00:14:26,220 I... 342 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,757 Just, it would be good to talk to somebody 343 00:14:29,857 --> 00:14:32,393 who is in tune with you. 344 00:14:32,493 --> 00:14:34,095 Namely moi. 345 00:14:35,896 --> 00:14:37,298 I see you. 346 00:14:38,132 --> 00:14:39,800 I really do. 347 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:41,802 I know. 348 00:14:41,902 --> 00:14:43,304 You do. 349 00:14:51,712 --> 00:14:53,514 I know what you're going to say. 350 00:14:53,581 --> 00:14:55,583 That, uh, I'm too close to Milliken, 351 00:14:55,716 --> 00:14:56,784 that I can't be impartial. 352 00:14:56,884 --> 00:14:58,819 You're on the case. 353 00:15:01,022 --> 00:15:04,892 Now, I only want to remind you, go where the evidence takes you. 354 00:15:04,993 --> 00:15:07,161 Don't get out over your skis on this one 355 00:15:07,261 --> 00:15:09,297 because of your relationship with the victim. 356 00:15:09,397 --> 00:15:11,065 Tyler's waiting for you. 357 00:15:12,233 --> 00:15:13,434 Thanks. 358 00:15:17,438 --> 00:15:19,273 (door opens) 359 00:15:32,086 --> 00:15:34,288 -One! -Just give him 360 00:15:34,422 --> 00:15:35,656 what he wants! 361 00:15:35,756 --> 00:15:37,458 -Two! -Sir, you kill her, we kill you! 362 00:15:37,591 --> 00:15:39,360 -Three! -(gunshot) 363 00:15:44,565 --> 00:15:45,866 Why? 364 00:15:49,103 --> 00:15:50,771 Three! 365 00:15:54,908 --> 00:15:57,011 Why? 366 00:16:00,448 --> 00:16:03,017 You know we're gonna sit here and watch this 367 00:16:03,117 --> 00:16:06,887 over and over until you answer my question. 368 00:16:09,790 --> 00:16:11,859 I had... 369 00:16:13,827 --> 00:16:15,563 Excuse me? 370 00:16:17,265 --> 00:16:19,667 I had the shot. 371 00:16:22,303 --> 00:16:23,704 Yeah, I had the shot. I took the shot. 372 00:16:23,804 --> 00:16:26,207 Yeah, you sure as fuck did. 373 00:16:30,444 --> 00:16:33,147 Why do you think Agent Lowell refuses to say anything 374 00:16:33,214 --> 00:16:35,549 except, "I had the shot. I took the shot."? 375 00:16:36,350 --> 00:16:39,186 -Like it's some kind of mantra. -Jesus Christ. 376 00:16:39,287 --> 00:16:40,854 It... it's something Milliken was 377 00:16:40,988 --> 00:16:42,523 hammering into our heads. 378 00:16:42,656 --> 00:16:43,924 What? 379 00:16:45,059 --> 00:16:47,095 So, Milliken designed this no-win H.R.T. scenario, 380 00:16:47,195 --> 00:16:50,598 where the hostage taker, he can't be taken alive. 381 00:16:50,698 --> 00:16:53,501 Now, Billy, Joey and I were on the same team together, 382 00:16:53,567 --> 00:16:55,069 so we'd each have a go at running point. 383 00:16:55,169 --> 00:16:57,505 You mean, being the guy taking the kill shot? 384 00:16:57,571 --> 00:16:59,307 Yeah. 385 00:16:59,373 --> 00:17:01,209 Joey and I, we had no problem. 386 00:17:01,342 --> 00:17:03,311 We could run through this thing with our eyes closed. 387 00:17:03,377 --> 00:17:05,713 Especially since we were handling your standard 388 00:17:05,812 --> 00:17:08,482 laser pistols and aiming at target dummies, 389 00:17:08,581 --> 00:17:10,217 but... (sighs) 390 00:17:10,318 --> 00:17:12,253 I don't know what was going on with Billy. 391 00:17:13,186 --> 00:17:16,157 Every single time, he couldn't do it. 392 00:17:16,224 --> 00:17:18,091 He'd just freeze up. 393 00:17:18,225 --> 00:17:20,194 Which totally set off Milliken. 394 00:17:20,261 --> 00:17:22,730 (chuckles) I've seen Milliken's short fuse 395 00:17:22,830 --> 00:17:24,098 up close and personal. 396 00:17:24,232 --> 00:17:25,666 It's not pretty. 397 00:17:25,765 --> 00:17:29,303 Hey, that was his job, was to get agents field ready. 398 00:17:29,403 --> 00:17:30,904 Yeah, no doubt. 399 00:17:31,004 --> 00:17:34,775 That's why Billy was driving Milliken batshit crazy. 400 00:17:34,875 --> 00:17:36,644 (sighs) 401 00:17:37,611 --> 00:17:40,114 Agent Lowell. 402 00:17:40,214 --> 00:17:41,949 Why the hesitation? 403 00:17:42,049 --> 00:17:45,286 Lives are on the line here, son. You do understand that? 404 00:17:45,386 --> 00:17:46,387 Yes. Yeah. 405 00:17:46,454 --> 00:17:47,688 MILLIKEN: If you want to watch, 406 00:17:47,788 --> 00:17:49,257 buy a ticket. 407 00:17:51,892 --> 00:17:53,927 Yes, sir. Sir, but... 408 00:17:54,027 --> 00:17:55,563 No more excuses. 409 00:17:55,629 --> 00:18:00,434 If you have the shot, you take the shot. 410 00:18:01,335 --> 00:18:02,203 Yes. 411 00:18:02,270 --> 00:18:04,104 Yes, what? 412 00:18:04,205 --> 00:18:06,174 -Yes, sir. -No. 413 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:09,076 No, say it. "I have the shot, 414 00:18:09,143 --> 00:18:10,444 -I take the shot." -I have... 415 00:18:10,544 --> 00:18:12,079 -I have the shot... -I have the shot... 416 00:18:12,146 --> 00:18:14,915 -...I take the shot. -...I take the shot. 417 00:18:15,015 --> 00:18:16,350 I take the shot. 418 00:18:17,285 --> 00:18:19,119 All right. 419 00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:20,721 Let's run it again. 420 00:18:21,789 --> 00:18:23,991 BARLOW: Yeah. We ran it 421 00:18:24,124 --> 00:18:26,394 again and again. 422 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:28,596 And that's when we went from using the dummy targets 423 00:18:28,696 --> 00:18:29,897 to role players. 424 00:18:29,963 --> 00:18:33,634 Laser pistols to actual guns. 425 00:18:34,535 --> 00:18:35,836 With blanks. 426 00:18:37,070 --> 00:18:40,774 But upping the ante did not help Billy. 427 00:18:40,841 --> 00:18:44,412 He was fucking hopeless. 428 00:18:44,512 --> 00:18:46,079 I mean, personally, I thought it was only gonna be 429 00:18:46,146 --> 00:18:48,882 a matter of time before he completely lost his shit. 430 00:18:48,982 --> 00:18:50,951 Being reprimanded is one thing... 431 00:18:51,051 --> 00:18:53,721 Oh, it went way beyond being reprimanded. 432 00:18:53,821 --> 00:18:55,989 (panting) 433 00:18:57,991 --> 00:18:59,660 Lowell, you are clear. Send it. 434 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,062 -One! -Just give him what he wants, please. 435 00:19:02,162 --> 00:19:03,464 -Two! -Take the shot. 436 00:19:03,564 --> 00:19:05,098 Sir, you kill her, we kill you. 437 00:19:05,199 --> 00:19:06,734 (crying): No! 438 00:19:07,935 --> 00:19:09,002 Take the shot. 439 00:19:09,136 --> 00:19:10,671 -Three! -(trigger clicks) 440 00:19:10,771 --> 00:19:12,440 -(bell rings) -(sighs) 441 00:19:12,540 --> 00:19:16,344 Goddamn it! Goddamn it. 442 00:19:17,478 --> 00:19:19,046 Are you fucking kidding me? 443 00:19:19,179 --> 00:19:21,382 You got another hostage killed. 444 00:19:21,482 --> 00:19:23,717 What the actual fuck do I have to do 445 00:19:23,851 --> 00:19:26,487 to get it through your thick skull, huh? 446 00:19:26,554 --> 00:19:27,788 I have the shot. 447 00:19:29,890 --> 00:19:31,592 Should I take it? 448 00:19:33,827 --> 00:19:35,162 You... 449 00:19:35,229 --> 00:19:37,565 -you take the shot. -Bingo. 450 00:19:39,867 --> 00:19:41,769 Run it again. 451 00:19:45,038 --> 00:19:47,875 And don't think I'm not ready for your D.O.R. 452 00:19:49,277 --> 00:19:51,545 (bell rings) 453 00:19:51,645 --> 00:19:53,080 Let's go! 454 00:19:54,848 --> 00:19:57,184 D.O.R. 455 00:19:57,285 --> 00:19:59,152 You know what that stands for. 456 00:19:59,253 --> 00:20:00,888 I know you do. 457 00:20:02,723 --> 00:20:05,559 Drop on request. 458 00:20:08,161 --> 00:20:09,597 Hey, I get it. 459 00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:12,366 All right? Milliken's kicking your ass, 460 00:20:12,466 --> 00:20:14,868 threatening your future. 461 00:20:16,069 --> 00:20:17,771 You couldn't take it anymore. 462 00:20:17,871 --> 00:20:19,740 What else you gonna do, right? 463 00:20:19,873 --> 00:20:23,677 I shot him, but I-I didn't kill him. 464 00:20:24,745 --> 00:20:27,281 Hey! Billy! 465 00:20:27,415 --> 00:20:30,117 Stop fucking with me. 466 00:20:31,752 --> 00:20:33,787 We're going through your locker. 467 00:20:33,887 --> 00:20:36,424 Once we match the bullets in your stash 468 00:20:36,557 --> 00:20:38,626 with the ones that were in the magazine... 469 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:40,561 I had blanks. 470 00:20:40,628 --> 00:20:43,196 Just like everybody else. I swear to God. 471 00:20:43,263 --> 00:20:45,333 -But, clearly, you didn't. -I know! 472 00:20:48,001 --> 00:20:49,570 I don't understand. 473 00:20:49,637 --> 00:20:51,439 Milliken, he-he 474 00:20:51,539 --> 00:20:53,607 handed out the guns himself. And the blanks. 475 00:20:53,741 --> 00:20:56,510 And we double-checked everything before we started. 476 00:20:56,610 --> 00:20:57,778 You're saying you were using 477 00:20:57,878 --> 00:20:58,946 Milliken's weapons and fake ammo? 478 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:00,213 Yes. 479 00:21:00,314 --> 00:21:01,549 -Stop lying! -I'm not. 480 00:21:01,615 --> 00:21:03,951 Check it. I swear. 481 00:21:09,256 --> 00:21:12,025 Agent Lowell, during the exercise, 482 00:21:12,125 --> 00:21:14,662 this no-win scenario involved an active shooter 483 00:21:14,795 --> 00:21:16,163 in a business office. 484 00:21:16,296 --> 00:21:17,898 But your fellow selectees mentioned that Milliken 485 00:21:17,965 --> 00:21:20,634 had gone a bit off-script, making himself out to be this... 486 00:21:20,734 --> 00:21:22,803 Crazy guy being denied his medication. Yeah. 487 00:21:24,672 --> 00:21:27,140 Were you or any of the selectees aware 488 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,176 of Milliken's own use of antidepressants? 489 00:21:30,778 --> 00:21:32,079 Had he mentioned it? 490 00:21:32,946 --> 00:21:34,515 Hey, hang on a second. 491 00:21:35,349 --> 00:21:39,119 I want to talk to you in the other room. 492 00:21:46,427 --> 00:21:47,628 What are you doing? 493 00:21:47,728 --> 00:21:50,063 Tom told me he was taking citalopram. 494 00:21:50,163 --> 00:21:52,366 So what? It's not relevant. 495 00:21:52,466 --> 00:21:54,067 Luke, of course it's relevant. 496 00:21:54,167 --> 00:21:55,369 Tom's behavior seems as if 497 00:21:55,469 --> 00:21:56,904 it were becoming increasingly erratic. 498 00:21:57,004 --> 00:21:58,338 No, it sounds like 499 00:21:58,439 --> 00:22:00,641 you're looking for an excuse, not a motive. 500 00:22:00,708 --> 00:22:02,743 PRENTISS: Luke, Tyler. 501 00:22:03,711 --> 00:22:05,045 Where are we? 502 00:22:05,178 --> 00:22:06,313 We got no confession, 503 00:22:06,414 --> 00:22:08,716 but we're looking at intentional homicide. 504 00:22:08,849 --> 00:22:10,350 I'm not sure it wasn't suicide. 505 00:22:10,451 --> 00:22:12,185 -Suicide? What are you taking about? -Listen to me. 506 00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:14,187 If those guns were under Milliken's control, 507 00:22:14,287 --> 00:22:15,856 and if his behavior was affected, 508 00:22:15,956 --> 00:22:17,725 either by misuse of prescriptions 509 00:22:17,825 --> 00:22:19,226 or ignoring them, then it's possible... 510 00:22:19,326 --> 00:22:21,228 No, it's not possible. 511 00:22:21,361 --> 00:22:22,663 It's absolutely not possible. 512 00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:26,400 Ballistics came back on the recovered bullet. 513 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:29,269 It does match Milliken's own service weapon. 514 00:22:32,372 --> 00:22:33,674 GREEN: Yeah. 515 00:22:33,741 --> 00:22:35,342 And... 516 00:22:35,409 --> 00:22:37,978 I think he wanted Agent Lowell to take that shot. 517 00:22:38,045 --> 00:22:39,447 ALVEZ: You think? 518 00:22:40,313 --> 00:22:41,849 Tom spent his life 519 00:22:41,949 --> 00:22:44,418 helping vets with mental health struggles. 520 00:22:44,552 --> 00:22:47,187 -He would never take his own life. -PRENTISS: Hold on. 521 00:22:47,254 --> 00:22:51,592 As I see it right now, you have two viable theories. 522 00:22:51,725 --> 00:22:54,394 Get it down to one. 523 00:23:03,937 --> 00:23:05,806 MAN (over P.A.): Strike team to landing 224. 524 00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:07,240 Strike team to landing 224. 525 00:23:07,307 --> 00:23:09,643 LEWIS: So, you think it's another test? 526 00:23:11,579 --> 00:23:13,346 Yeah, but not just for us. 527 00:23:13,481 --> 00:23:15,549 He's gauging the levels of his own restraint. 528 00:23:15,649 --> 00:23:17,785 And you think that's why he sent it to Garrity 529 00:23:17,851 --> 00:23:19,319 -and not to you. -For some reason, 530 00:23:19,419 --> 00:23:22,656 he's trying to slow himself down, and if he can't, 531 00:23:22,756 --> 00:23:24,592 it's gonna cost somebody else their life. 532 00:23:24,692 --> 00:23:27,661 Assuming he hasn't killed already. 533 00:23:27,761 --> 00:23:29,362 He may have. 534 00:23:29,463 --> 00:23:31,865 And now he wants to be called God 535 00:23:31,965 --> 00:23:34,868 because he feels he has the power to show mercy. 536 00:23:34,968 --> 00:23:36,970 To choose who lives and who dies. 537 00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:38,806 -Mm-hmm. -ROSSI: But not before 538 00:23:38,906 --> 00:23:40,407 you pass him the torch. 539 00:23:40,508 --> 00:23:44,211 That's why he capitalizes the "H" when he references you. 540 00:23:44,344 --> 00:23:47,615 Without your seal of approval, he won't feel that, um, 541 00:23:47,715 --> 00:23:50,250 special something. 542 00:23:50,383 --> 00:23:54,154 That may be another reason to send it to Garrity. 543 00:23:54,221 --> 00:23:56,023 Trying to get me on the podcast again. 544 00:23:56,123 --> 00:23:59,392 Yeah, that's not gonna happen. 545 00:23:59,493 --> 00:24:01,762 Okay, but maybe if he heard 546 00:24:01,862 --> 00:24:04,331 someone else's voice on the podcast, 547 00:24:04,397 --> 00:24:06,399 it would engage him enough so that he gets 548 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,669 careless enough to reveal himself. 549 00:24:08,736 --> 00:24:10,303 Okay. 550 00:24:10,403 --> 00:24:12,740 -Who are you thinking? -Me. 551 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,441 Yes. 552 00:24:15,342 --> 00:24:16,844 No. 553 00:24:17,611 --> 00:24:20,480 If he's my fan, he's trying to walk in my footsteps, 554 00:24:20,581 --> 00:24:22,883 which means he's read every single one of your books. 555 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:24,618 Hey, they're not how-to books. 556 00:24:24,752 --> 00:24:27,354 He respects you. 557 00:24:27,454 --> 00:24:29,189 You led the team that led to my capture. 558 00:24:29,289 --> 00:24:32,459 If he hears your voice live on Brian's podcast, 559 00:24:32,593 --> 00:24:34,562 I don't know how he can not reach out. 560 00:24:34,662 --> 00:24:38,532 You are the only person he might surrender to. 561 00:24:41,735 --> 00:24:43,203 I mean... 562 00:24:44,772 --> 00:24:46,640 ...because he trusts you. 563 00:24:47,541 --> 00:24:48,709 You know I'm right. 564 00:24:48,776 --> 00:24:50,711 Otherwise, you wouldn't be here. 565 00:24:50,778 --> 00:24:52,479 (sighs) 566 00:24:57,818 --> 00:24:58,952 (knocks on door) 567 00:24:59,086 --> 00:25:00,187 Hey. 568 00:25:00,287 --> 00:25:01,855 -Sorry to interrupt. -Not a problem. 569 00:25:02,890 --> 00:25:03,957 What do you need? 570 00:25:04,091 --> 00:25:06,226 In reviewing the incident reports, 571 00:25:06,326 --> 00:25:08,395 we weren't able to find one describing Milliken 572 00:25:08,495 --> 00:25:10,798 pulling his service weapon on Agent Lowell. 573 00:25:10,931 --> 00:25:12,532 I wish I could say I'm surprised. 574 00:25:12,633 --> 00:25:15,135 -Was a report filed? -Not to me, but 575 00:25:15,235 --> 00:25:18,572 I am now hearing rumors that many anonymous reports 576 00:25:18,672 --> 00:25:20,574 sent to the Office of Professional Responsibility 577 00:25:20,641 --> 00:25:21,809 may have been slow-rolled. 578 00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:24,277 Friends in high places? 579 00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:26,479 It's all hearsay, right? 580 00:25:27,380 --> 00:25:28,882 All I know from personal experience 581 00:25:28,982 --> 00:25:31,018 is he got results. 582 00:25:31,785 --> 00:25:33,621 If he passed you, you were the best of the best. 583 00:25:33,687 --> 00:25:36,724 So, you're saying they were willing to look the other way 584 00:25:36,824 --> 00:25:39,526 if he crossed the line now and again? 585 00:25:39,660 --> 00:25:41,361 You're saying that. 586 00:25:41,461 --> 00:25:43,296 But I wouldn't disagree. 587 00:25:49,703 --> 00:25:52,405 * * 588 00:25:56,744 --> 00:25:58,045 (billiard balls clacking) 589 00:25:58,145 --> 00:26:00,280 (sighs) It's this new class. 590 00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:01,514 Killing me. 591 00:26:01,615 --> 00:26:04,117 It's triggering all my old habits. 592 00:26:04,184 --> 00:26:06,453 I'm just not... 593 00:26:06,553 --> 00:26:07,821 -I don't know. -No. 594 00:26:07,888 --> 00:26:10,791 You don't get to end on, "I don't know." 595 00:26:10,891 --> 00:26:12,225 Talk to me. 596 00:26:12,325 --> 00:26:13,794 It's Cindy. 597 00:26:13,894 --> 00:26:15,262 She's not happy. 598 00:26:16,196 --> 00:26:18,031 Come on, you guys... 599 00:26:18,131 --> 00:26:20,533 -you've been through worse. -I know. 600 00:26:22,369 --> 00:26:24,872 That's the thing with getting older and wiser. 601 00:26:25,005 --> 00:26:27,240 You start to realize you don't have to spend 602 00:26:27,340 --> 00:26:29,209 the rest of your life putting up with shit. 603 00:26:29,309 --> 00:26:31,578 Oh, so you-you think you're putting up with... 604 00:26:31,712 --> 00:26:32,713 No, not me. 605 00:26:32,846 --> 00:26:33,847 Cindy. 606 00:26:33,914 --> 00:26:35,315 -Oh. -Come on, she has spent 607 00:26:35,382 --> 00:26:38,251 the better part of her life dealing with mine. 608 00:26:40,053 --> 00:26:41,655 You guys going to counseling? 609 00:26:41,722 --> 00:26:43,757 Yeah, twice a week. 610 00:26:45,225 --> 00:26:46,994 Still... 611 00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:48,696 it's me. 612 00:26:48,762 --> 00:26:51,364 I don't know what the hell is going on. 613 00:26:51,464 --> 00:26:52,900 I'm bringing work home with me. 614 00:26:53,033 --> 00:26:55,202 I'm barking orders at her like she's one of my trainees. 615 00:26:55,302 --> 00:26:56,937 It is bad, Luke. 616 00:26:58,772 --> 00:27:02,409 Look, a wise man once told me that it's one thing 617 00:27:02,542 --> 00:27:05,345 to identify the problem, and it's another thing 618 00:27:05,445 --> 00:27:06,579 to do the work. 619 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,915 Words. 620 00:27:08,048 --> 00:27:10,984 Yeah, until you put them into action. 621 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:14,287 I just... 622 00:27:14,421 --> 00:27:17,524 don't know what I would do without her. 623 00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:18,859 You know? 624 00:27:22,529 --> 00:27:25,699 Look, maybe you need some time off. 625 00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:31,471 You're empty. 626 00:27:32,973 --> 00:27:35,542 -Want another? -No. 627 00:27:36,543 --> 00:27:37,978 No, I'm good. 628 00:27:38,879 --> 00:27:40,247 Come on. 629 00:27:40,347 --> 00:27:42,649 One more round. On me. 630 00:27:45,418 --> 00:27:46,286 Sure. 631 00:27:46,386 --> 00:27:48,856 Attaboy. That's the spirit. 632 00:28:03,937 --> 00:28:05,572 (sighs) 633 00:28:05,672 --> 00:28:06,974 Hey, so it looks like 634 00:28:07,074 --> 00:28:10,844 we have to reinterview all the selectees. 635 00:28:13,313 --> 00:28:15,082 You okay? 636 00:28:17,985 --> 00:28:20,220 It's not fair. 637 00:28:21,421 --> 00:28:22,956 Death rarely is. 638 00:28:23,056 --> 00:28:24,858 Not death. 639 00:28:26,626 --> 00:28:28,095 Grief. 640 00:28:33,834 --> 00:28:35,402 I'm sorry. 641 00:28:36,736 --> 00:28:39,372 You're the last person I should be saying that to. 642 00:28:39,472 --> 00:28:41,508 No, I... I get it. 643 00:28:41,608 --> 00:28:42,910 Ah, I... 644 00:28:43,743 --> 00:28:46,313 I don't want you to think that I'm trying to compare 645 00:28:46,413 --> 00:28:49,549 what you went through to what I'm going through. 646 00:28:49,682 --> 00:28:51,618 Luke, stop. 647 00:28:51,718 --> 00:28:53,954 I understand. 648 00:28:54,054 --> 00:28:56,924 Everyone experiences grief in their own way. 649 00:28:57,991 --> 00:29:00,360 I mean, Jesus, it's been over a year, 650 00:29:00,493 --> 00:29:05,732 and not a day goes by where I don't see Will's eyes 651 00:29:05,833 --> 00:29:08,268 or his sense of humor in the boys. 652 00:29:09,302 --> 00:29:12,572 It's, um... it's, uh, fucking brutal. 653 00:29:14,207 --> 00:29:16,576 Grief is not kind. 654 00:29:16,709 --> 00:29:19,379 Or rational or-or fair. 655 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:22,715 But trust me, 656 00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:27,187 if you don't give yourself the space to feel, 657 00:29:27,287 --> 00:29:30,557 if you cut yourself off from those feelings... 658 00:29:32,125 --> 00:29:33,693 ...it gets way worse. 659 00:29:35,395 --> 00:29:36,997 Yeah. 660 00:29:37,931 --> 00:29:39,266 So? 661 00:29:40,233 --> 00:29:46,106 What can we do to give you the space you need? 662 00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:52,880 I thought I could take the lead on this case, 663 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,148 but I, uh... 664 00:29:55,248 --> 00:29:57,417 I need you and Tyler to... 665 00:29:57,517 --> 00:29:59,252 have my back. 666 00:29:59,352 --> 00:30:00,820 We got you. 667 00:30:04,091 --> 00:30:05,358 We got you. 668 00:30:05,425 --> 00:30:07,060 ALVEZ: Thanks. 669 00:30:07,127 --> 00:30:08,962 (door closes) 670 00:30:18,939 --> 00:30:21,508 JJ: Agent Barlow, apart from his actions during training, 671 00:30:21,608 --> 00:30:24,211 what else can you tell us about Milliken's behavior? 672 00:30:25,478 --> 00:30:27,114 I didn't really spend any time with him 673 00:30:27,214 --> 00:30:29,482 outside of the exercises. 674 00:30:29,582 --> 00:30:33,620 What about before briefings or after training exercises? 675 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,755 Maybe you checked in during his office hours? 676 00:30:35,855 --> 00:30:38,358 Well, yeah, sometimes, I guess. 677 00:30:39,659 --> 00:30:41,161 I suppose it was true that he was all 678 00:30:41,294 --> 00:30:43,030 fire and brimstone during the training, 679 00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:45,832 but lately, when he was alone... 680 00:30:47,634 --> 00:30:49,536 ...it started to get weird. 681 00:30:50,803 --> 00:30:52,172 How so? 682 00:30:53,773 --> 00:30:56,977 Well, I went to see him about this procedural question. 683 00:30:59,012 --> 00:31:00,380 And I walked in there. 684 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,315 He was sitting behind his desk. 685 00:31:02,415 --> 00:31:04,918 And he didn't see me, but I saw him. 686 00:31:05,018 --> 00:31:07,087 (Milliken crying) 687 00:31:07,187 --> 00:31:09,856 And he was... crying. 688 00:31:13,326 --> 00:31:15,162 HELM: Yeah, Joey told me about it. 689 00:31:15,262 --> 00:31:17,697 He said he was, like, ugly crying. 690 00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:19,266 It didn't make any sense. 691 00:31:19,366 --> 00:31:22,369 I mean, yeah, we were prepping for our next eval, 692 00:31:22,469 --> 00:31:23,971 but it was a low-stress day. 693 00:31:24,071 --> 00:31:26,573 Clearly, something got under his skin. 694 00:31:28,675 --> 00:31:30,010 Let me tell you something. 695 00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:32,445 I've known Tom Milliken for over 20 years. 696 00:31:32,545 --> 00:31:33,746 -I've never... -Look, Luke... 697 00:31:33,846 --> 00:31:35,148 ...never once seen him cry. 698 00:31:35,215 --> 00:31:37,384 Yeah, well, neither have I, technically. 699 00:31:37,484 --> 00:31:39,452 Okay? It's just what Joey told me. 700 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:40,853 Joey also couldn't tell us 701 00:31:40,954 --> 00:31:42,655 what was troubling Agent Milliken. 702 00:31:42,722 --> 00:31:44,257 Can you? 703 00:31:45,258 --> 00:31:47,060 Okay, not for sure. 704 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,829 There was a rumor... 705 00:31:49,929 --> 00:31:51,564 his wife was leaving him. 706 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:53,733 Cindy? Nah. 707 00:31:53,833 --> 00:31:56,369 -Is that his wife? -Yeah. 708 00:31:56,469 --> 00:31:58,705 Look, like I said, I can't say 709 00:31:58,838 --> 00:32:00,974 100% for certain that his wife was leaving him, 710 00:32:01,041 --> 00:32:03,743 it was just something I overheard. 711 00:32:05,312 --> 00:32:07,080 Are you okay? 712 00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:17,624 (chuckles) 713 00:32:17,724 --> 00:32:19,159 (knock on door) 714 00:32:21,061 --> 00:32:22,562 Cindy. 715 00:32:22,662 --> 00:32:23,896 Luke. 716 00:32:23,997 --> 00:32:25,365 It's good to see you. 717 00:32:25,465 --> 00:32:28,135 -I'm so sorry. -Mm. 718 00:32:33,373 --> 00:32:35,842 We took this the day he retired from the Army. 719 00:32:35,942 --> 00:32:37,477 (laughs softly) Yeah. 720 00:32:38,578 --> 00:32:41,214 Yeah, I remember those days. 721 00:32:41,314 --> 00:32:43,350 New deployment every six months. 722 00:32:43,450 --> 00:32:45,152 Long phone calls home. 723 00:32:45,252 --> 00:32:47,420 -Or no phone calls for weeks. -Yeah. 724 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,921 CINDY: After he retired, 725 00:32:49,022 --> 00:32:50,423 he said we'd finally settle down. 726 00:32:50,523 --> 00:32:53,360 Buy a house, stop moving from base to base. 727 00:32:54,427 --> 00:32:57,397 You know, he told me that 728 00:32:57,464 --> 00:33:01,268 the best decision he ever made was joining the FBI. 729 00:33:01,368 --> 00:33:03,203 Said it felt like you two finally... 730 00:33:03,270 --> 00:33:05,772 Finally had time for each other. 731 00:33:05,905 --> 00:33:07,574 -Yeah. -Right. 732 00:33:11,278 --> 00:33:13,046 Sometimes the people that help others the most, 733 00:33:13,146 --> 00:33:16,649 they just can't seem to help themselves. 734 00:33:17,884 --> 00:33:19,786 I'm not sure what you mean. 735 00:33:23,456 --> 00:33:24,957 Cindy, the BAU is in the process 736 00:33:25,058 --> 00:33:27,160 of putting the pieces together of what happened, 737 00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:29,762 and some information has come to light 738 00:33:29,829 --> 00:33:34,901 that suggest Tom might have been acting out self-destructively. 739 00:33:34,967 --> 00:33:38,238 That, uh, maybe he was suicidal. 740 00:33:39,139 --> 00:33:40,773 Tom? 741 00:33:40,873 --> 00:33:42,109 Okay, who told you that? 742 00:33:42,175 --> 00:33:43,976 I'm not at liberty to say. 743 00:33:44,077 --> 00:33:46,146 Absolutely not, Luke. 744 00:33:46,246 --> 00:33:48,315 And I'm not just saying that because I'm his wife. 745 00:33:48,415 --> 00:33:51,618 Cindy, were you leaving him? 746 00:33:51,684 --> 00:33:53,153 Wow. 747 00:33:53,253 --> 00:33:56,489 I-I wouldn't ask if I didn't have to. 748 00:33:56,623 --> 00:33:57,990 I-I don't even believe it. 749 00:33:58,091 --> 00:34:01,228 It's just that one of Tom's trainees saw him 750 00:34:01,328 --> 00:34:05,298 here in his office, alone, crying hysterically. 751 00:34:05,365 --> 00:34:06,833 Oh. 752 00:34:06,933 --> 00:34:12,205 One man sees another man crying, and so he must be suicidal? 753 00:34:13,606 --> 00:34:15,374 Luke, you're a behavioral profiler. 754 00:34:15,508 --> 00:34:17,144 You should know better. 755 00:34:22,914 --> 00:34:28,019 I know Tom was struggling with how much he was hurting you. 756 00:34:30,022 --> 00:34:31,458 Yes. 757 00:34:31,524 --> 00:34:33,126 Yes, 30-plus years 758 00:34:33,226 --> 00:34:37,130 of Tom burying his feelings was killing our relationship. 759 00:34:37,229 --> 00:34:40,867 But Tom was nothing if not "never say die," right? 760 00:34:42,901 --> 00:34:45,338 I mean, he found a new therapist, 761 00:34:45,438 --> 00:34:47,240 he got on new medication, 762 00:34:47,374 --> 00:34:48,740 and finally he was getting in touch 763 00:34:48,841 --> 00:34:50,477 with his emotions, his truth. 764 00:34:50,543 --> 00:34:52,479 And yes, recently, it made him cry, 765 00:34:52,579 --> 00:34:54,013 which was good for him. 766 00:34:54,113 --> 00:34:55,914 And for us. 767 00:34:57,150 --> 00:34:59,118 So, you weren't getting a divorce? 768 00:34:59,219 --> 00:35:00,887 As long as he was doing the work, 769 00:35:00,987 --> 00:35:03,223 I was never gonna leave him. 770 00:35:04,891 --> 00:35:07,093 And I made sure he knew that. 771 00:35:11,398 --> 00:35:13,400 Well, so, then, as far as you're concerned, 772 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:18,104 the only thing Tom was having trouble with was work? 773 00:35:19,071 --> 00:35:23,243 For men like Tom, who felt a profound responsibility 774 00:35:23,343 --> 00:35:26,078 to prepare the next generation of warriors, 775 00:35:26,179 --> 00:35:28,014 he had a hard time deciding 776 00:35:28,114 --> 00:35:31,251 whether he wanted to be loved or feared. 777 00:35:34,621 --> 00:35:36,423 I loved him. 778 00:35:36,523 --> 00:35:39,692 I'm not sure many others would agree. 779 00:35:40,527 --> 00:35:42,429 And with this last class, 780 00:35:42,529 --> 00:35:45,198 he told me that the best lesson he could give them 781 00:35:45,298 --> 00:35:46,799 was to drop them. 782 00:35:47,634 --> 00:35:49,135 That's why that young man decided 783 00:35:49,269 --> 00:35:51,504 to take Tom's life, isn't it? 784 00:35:53,940 --> 00:35:56,142 Isn't it? 785 00:36:01,448 --> 00:36:02,582 (knocking on door) 786 00:36:02,649 --> 00:36:04,951 Hey. Y-You got a minute? 787 00:36:05,051 --> 00:36:06,319 Yeah, of course. 788 00:36:06,419 --> 00:36:07,954 All right. Look, I've been... 789 00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:12,625 ...doing like we said and following the evidence, 790 00:36:12,759 --> 00:36:13,993 where it takes me. 791 00:36:14,126 --> 00:36:18,298 And obviously Lowell shot Tom, and, uh... 792 00:36:18,431 --> 00:36:19,632 (scoffs softly) 793 00:36:19,766 --> 00:36:23,403 ...he neither accidentally nor intentionally 794 00:36:23,503 --> 00:36:25,238 took his life. 795 00:36:25,338 --> 00:36:27,707 -So, suicide? -No. 796 00:36:28,941 --> 00:36:31,110 And I don't know why I didn't think about this 797 00:36:31,210 --> 00:36:33,012 from the start, but... 798 00:36:33,112 --> 00:36:35,648 although Tom was fixated on Lowell's shortcomings, 799 00:36:35,748 --> 00:36:38,017 he would've held his whole unit accountable. 800 00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:39,986 All for one, one for all. 801 00:36:40,086 --> 00:36:41,854 That kind of bond is everything. 802 00:36:41,954 --> 00:36:43,623 And if Tom was threatening D.O.R., 803 00:36:43,690 --> 00:36:46,926 he was threatening to drop all three agent selectees, 804 00:36:47,026 --> 00:36:49,061 including Agents Barlow and Helm. 805 00:36:49,161 --> 00:36:52,198 So, you think one or both of them... 806 00:36:52,299 --> 00:36:56,636 Intentionally slipped Lowell a magazine with live rounds. 807 00:36:57,437 --> 00:37:00,607 Lowell's history with Tom would make him the perfect fall guy. 808 00:37:01,374 --> 00:37:03,109 If that didn't work, they had a plan B. 809 00:37:03,175 --> 00:37:05,011 Milliken's erratic behavior 810 00:37:05,111 --> 00:37:07,714 would suggest the possibility of suicide. 811 00:37:07,814 --> 00:37:09,582 Either way, they were covered. 812 00:37:09,682 --> 00:37:11,284 (sighs) Until now. 813 00:37:11,351 --> 00:37:13,586 No, until we can prove it. 814 00:37:13,686 --> 00:37:17,357 We only have an hour before the news breaks. 815 00:37:17,457 --> 00:37:19,225 Luke. 816 00:37:21,193 --> 00:37:22,562 Good work. 817 00:37:31,237 --> 00:37:32,772 Your theory makes sense. 818 00:37:32,839 --> 00:37:34,674 But based on our interviews, I'm not sure 819 00:37:34,807 --> 00:37:37,910 Barlow and Helm are capable of that level of deception. 820 00:37:38,010 --> 00:37:42,549 I know, but I think that there's a way to find out for sure. 821 00:37:42,649 --> 00:37:44,651 We should give Lowell a cognitive. 822 00:37:44,751 --> 00:37:46,986 -That's right. -GREEN: His trauma is keeping him from telling us 823 00:37:47,086 --> 00:37:50,590 exactly what happened before and during that exercise. 824 00:37:50,657 --> 00:37:52,325 -You should do it. -No. 825 00:37:52,459 --> 00:37:55,094 -Luke... -Look, he and I got off on the wrong foot. 826 00:37:55,161 --> 00:37:56,429 He's not gonna be able to relax. 827 00:37:56,496 --> 00:37:57,864 GREEN: You don't think your presence 828 00:37:57,964 --> 00:37:59,165 won't put him right back in the mindset? 829 00:37:59,265 --> 00:38:00,367 I do. 830 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:03,670 We'll be right here if you need us. 831 00:38:04,637 --> 00:38:06,973 No, I don't want to do that. 832 00:38:07,073 --> 00:38:08,641 -Agent Lowell... -No. 833 00:38:08,741 --> 00:38:10,943 You've been trying to trick me into confessing from the jump. 834 00:38:11,043 --> 00:38:14,280 Look, Billy, I'm sorry. 835 00:38:16,148 --> 00:38:17,550 I'm sorry. 836 00:38:17,650 --> 00:38:21,020 Okay? I-I want to be honest with you. 837 00:38:21,153 --> 00:38:22,689 Agent Milliken-- 838 00:38:22,789 --> 00:38:26,325 Tom and I were very close. 839 00:38:26,393 --> 00:38:29,061 He was like family, and... 840 00:38:30,062 --> 00:38:31,798 (sighs) Look. 841 00:38:31,898 --> 00:38:35,835 Hearing some of the things that he said and did, 842 00:38:35,935 --> 00:38:37,303 it was hard. 843 00:38:38,705 --> 00:38:41,674 Because of that, I wasn't fair to you. 844 00:38:44,343 --> 00:38:46,112 I apologize. 845 00:38:48,214 --> 00:38:49,749 All right. 846 00:38:51,083 --> 00:38:54,987 ALVEZ: Now, look, if you're willing to do what we call 847 00:38:55,087 --> 00:38:57,356 a cognitive interview, 848 00:38:57,424 --> 00:39:02,995 I believe that that could really help us determine what happened. 849 00:39:03,062 --> 00:39:05,465 And together, we can find the truth. 850 00:39:09,068 --> 00:39:10,637 Okay. 851 00:39:12,705 --> 00:39:14,474 How do we start? 852 00:39:14,574 --> 00:39:15,742 (sighs) 853 00:39:15,842 --> 00:39:18,077 Wh-Why'd you join the FBI? 854 00:39:21,548 --> 00:39:23,750 Growing up, I, um... 855 00:39:25,418 --> 00:39:27,554 ...never thought I was enough. 856 00:39:28,688 --> 00:39:30,490 Dad made sure of that. 857 00:39:31,323 --> 00:39:33,626 I needed to prove something to him. 858 00:39:34,427 --> 00:39:37,129 So, I applied to the FBI. 859 00:39:37,897 --> 00:39:39,832 (laughs): And... 860 00:39:39,932 --> 00:39:41,568 I got accepted. 861 00:39:43,069 --> 00:39:45,137 My dad couldn't believe it. 862 00:39:46,539 --> 00:39:48,407 But... 863 00:39:48,508 --> 00:39:50,209 you know... 864 00:39:50,276 --> 00:39:52,879 then with the expectations, everything just... 865 00:39:52,979 --> 00:39:54,481 Grew? 866 00:39:57,149 --> 00:39:58,718 Yeah. 867 00:40:00,453 --> 00:40:02,021 Especially when I decided to go out 868 00:40:02,121 --> 00:40:04,023 for the Hostage Rescue Team. 869 00:40:05,492 --> 00:40:07,660 That's when I... 870 00:40:09,496 --> 00:40:12,732 ...started having panic attacks for the first time. 871 00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:16,636 And Agent Milliken wasn't sympathetic to that. 872 00:40:16,736 --> 00:40:18,070 He was. 873 00:40:19,171 --> 00:40:22,374 And... wasn't. 874 00:40:23,142 --> 00:40:25,678 Jekyll and Hyde, you know? 875 00:40:26,479 --> 00:40:28,748 He, uh... 876 00:40:28,848 --> 00:40:32,151 recommended a counselor, but... 877 00:40:32,251 --> 00:40:34,954 he kept coming back to... 878 00:40:35,021 --> 00:40:38,691 at the end of the day, nobody has time for my shit. 879 00:40:39,526 --> 00:40:41,360 "Lives were on the line." 880 00:40:42,161 --> 00:40:44,030 But you didn't quit. 881 00:40:44,163 --> 00:40:46,098 I still had something to prove. 882 00:40:46,198 --> 00:40:48,234 To your father? 883 00:40:49,135 --> 00:40:50,503 Yeah. 884 00:40:52,204 --> 00:40:56,743 And Agent Milliken reminded you of him? 885 00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:01,280 He did. 886 00:41:03,282 --> 00:41:05,918 Every time he would, uh... 887 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,787 ...he would yell at me, 888 00:41:07,887 --> 00:41:09,622 I could... 889 00:41:09,722 --> 00:41:11,691 I could hear 890 00:41:11,791 --> 00:41:14,326 my dad's voice, and it would-- 891 00:41:14,426 --> 00:41:16,796 literally, it would-- 892 00:41:16,896 --> 00:41:19,065 make me shake. 893 00:41:22,669 --> 00:41:23,936 All right, Billy. 894 00:41:24,036 --> 00:41:26,639 I want you to close your eyes. 895 00:41:26,706 --> 00:41:28,107 All right? 896 00:41:31,043 --> 00:41:33,212 All right, take a deep breath. 897 00:41:36,048 --> 00:41:38,350 (exhales) 898 00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:40,486 All right, let's go back. 899 00:41:41,921 --> 00:41:45,958 All right, Agent Milliken hands out the weapons. 900 00:41:46,058 --> 00:41:48,060 He demonstrates that the magazines 901 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,230 are loaded with blanks, correct? 902 00:41:51,363 --> 00:41:54,000 LOWELL: Yes, he does. 903 00:41:54,066 --> 00:41:57,136 But Joey, Owen and me, we... 904 00:41:57,236 --> 00:41:58,971 we double-check. 905 00:42:08,848 --> 00:42:10,817 And what happens next? 906 00:42:10,917 --> 00:42:14,587 We started the exercise and, uh... 907 00:42:14,721 --> 00:42:16,355 Are you sure? 908 00:42:16,455 --> 00:42:18,424 Yes. 909 00:42:21,093 --> 00:42:23,863 Okay, Billy, close your eyes. 910 00:42:30,202 --> 00:42:33,105 Now, Agent Milliken barks at you guys 911 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,841 to get locked and loaded, 912 00:42:34,941 --> 00:42:37,910 to get your ass started with the exercise. 913 00:42:39,612 --> 00:42:41,648 Goddamn it, Lowell! 914 00:42:41,781 --> 00:42:43,950 Lives are on the line here, son. 915 00:42:44,050 --> 00:42:46,118 You can't hack it, people die. 916 00:42:46,218 --> 00:42:48,020 It's as simple as that. 917 00:42:48,788 --> 00:42:50,156 -Hey! -(fingers snapping) 918 00:42:50,289 --> 00:42:51,924 Look at me! 919 00:42:51,991 --> 00:42:54,160 You think this is abuse? 920 00:42:54,260 --> 00:42:58,097 You can't handle me, you can't handle this job! 921 00:42:58,164 --> 00:43:00,800 But I guess the Bureau needs its desk jockeys, too. 922 00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:03,970 You want to watch, buy a ticket. Otherwise... 923 00:43:04,103 --> 00:43:05,805 LOWELL: I hear my dad. 924 00:43:05,938 --> 00:43:08,307 ...no more fucking excuses. 925 00:43:08,407 --> 00:43:11,510 LOWELL: And I start to shake. 926 00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:14,914 You take the shot. Understand? 927 00:43:15,014 --> 00:43:17,516 -LOWELL: I start getting sick... -Run it again. 928 00:43:17,616 --> 00:43:19,185 ...and I can't stop. 929 00:43:20,252 --> 00:43:21,754 (retching, coughing) 930 00:43:21,821 --> 00:43:23,723 -I throw up. -(distant coughing) 931 00:43:24,523 --> 00:43:26,693 ALVEZ: What does Milliken do? 932 00:43:27,459 --> 00:43:29,195 LOWELL: You know, he was pissed. 933 00:43:29,996 --> 00:43:32,799 I mean, everyone was pissed. 934 00:43:32,899 --> 00:43:35,434 Joey and Owen, they were like, 935 00:43:35,501 --> 00:43:39,238 "Jesus, here we go again." 936 00:43:41,507 --> 00:43:43,743 All right, what happens now? 937 00:43:45,845 --> 00:43:47,446 Then I... 938 00:43:48,715 --> 00:43:51,050 ...felt a hand on my back. 939 00:43:51,183 --> 00:43:52,685 Whose hand? 940 00:43:52,785 --> 00:43:55,221 O'CONNOR: It's okay. You got this, Billy. 941 00:43:55,354 --> 00:43:57,523 -(coughing) -It was O'Connor. 942 00:43:57,623 --> 00:43:59,591 -Milliken's chief of staff? -Yes. 943 00:44:02,294 --> 00:44:03,629 (sighs) 944 00:44:05,197 --> 00:44:07,233 I remember now. He... 945 00:44:09,001 --> 00:44:10,837 He did this pat down on me. 946 00:44:10,937 --> 00:44:12,905 -Okay, Billy. You got this. -(coughing) 947 00:44:20,546 --> 00:44:21,580 You dropped. 948 00:44:21,714 --> 00:44:22,815 LOWELL: Oh, shit. 949 00:44:22,882 --> 00:44:24,416 Thanks. 950 00:44:28,654 --> 00:44:30,857 Jesus Christ. 951 00:44:35,161 --> 00:44:36,896 I thought he was trying to help me. 952 00:44:36,996 --> 00:44:38,697 HELM: Reload! Reload! 953 00:44:38,798 --> 00:44:40,566 LOWELL: I-I... 954 00:44:41,734 --> 00:44:43,135 I don't understand. Wh... 955 00:44:45,071 --> 00:44:47,106 Why would he do that to me? 956 00:44:47,907 --> 00:44:49,608 ALVEZ: All that mattered to him 957 00:44:49,742 --> 00:44:51,744 was finding someone to take the fall. 958 00:44:51,844 --> 00:44:53,946 But I pulled the goddamn trigger. 959 00:44:55,614 --> 00:44:57,349 It's just gonna be my word against his. 960 00:44:57,449 --> 00:44:59,618 Who's gonna b-- Who's gonna believe me? 961 00:45:06,192 --> 00:45:07,794 -Thanks, Peter. -Not a problem. 962 00:45:07,927 --> 00:45:10,096 But you did get those reports I sent? 963 00:45:10,196 --> 00:45:11,230 We did. 964 00:45:11,297 --> 00:45:12,564 Turns out, there's, uh, 965 00:45:12,631 --> 00:45:14,533 another item we need to take a look at. 966 00:45:14,633 --> 00:45:16,535 What's that? 967 00:45:16,635 --> 00:45:19,538 We think Agent Milliken kept a journal. 968 00:45:19,638 --> 00:45:21,207 In his safe. 969 00:45:21,307 --> 00:45:22,942 REBECCA: When his wife was here collecting his belongings, 970 00:45:23,075 --> 00:45:26,946 she said that you weren't around to open it for her. 971 00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:29,148 No, but I can grab it now. 972 00:45:32,684 --> 00:45:34,854 (keypad beeping) 973 00:45:44,797 --> 00:45:47,566 Uh, I'm not seeing a journal. 974 00:45:47,633 --> 00:45:49,768 Can you step aside? 975 00:46:03,415 --> 00:46:04,951 Peter O'Connor, 976 00:46:05,017 --> 00:46:07,854 you're under arrest for the murder of Agent Tom Milliken. 977 00:46:07,954 --> 00:46:09,455 Wh-What the fuck are you doing? 978 00:46:09,555 --> 00:46:11,357 Ballistics confirmed that Agent Milliken 979 00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:12,758 was killed by his own bullet. 980 00:46:12,859 --> 00:46:14,160 The ammunition he used was always kept 981 00:46:14,260 --> 00:46:16,162 -right here in this safe. -(handcuffs click) 982 00:46:16,295 --> 00:46:17,864 Cindy said her husband and one other person 983 00:46:17,997 --> 00:46:19,331 had that combination. 984 00:46:19,431 --> 00:46:21,133 -You were that other person. -This is crazy. 985 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,768 I've given everything I have to this man. 986 00:46:22,869 --> 00:46:24,036 JJ: We can see that. 987 00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:25,371 But you couldn't help yourself. 988 00:46:25,471 --> 00:46:27,139 You pointed us in the direction of OPR. 989 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,908 All those anonymous complaints. 990 00:46:29,008 --> 00:46:32,111 One of which was for a selectee who got D.O.R.'d 991 00:46:32,211 --> 00:46:34,646 and, one week later, took his own life. 992 00:46:35,581 --> 00:46:38,350 JJ: Matthew O'Connor. 993 00:46:38,450 --> 00:46:39,852 Your brother. 994 00:46:39,986 --> 00:46:41,353 And nobody cared, 995 00:46:41,453 --> 00:46:44,056 so you had to take matters into your own hands. 996 00:46:44,190 --> 00:46:46,358 OPR is a fucking joke. 997 00:46:46,458 --> 00:46:47,526 What's the goddamn point? 998 00:46:47,659 --> 00:46:49,561 The rules are never applied equally. 999 00:46:49,695 --> 00:46:50,897 Someone always gets special treatment. 1000 00:46:50,997 --> 00:46:52,965 Your brother deserved better. 1001 00:46:53,065 --> 00:46:54,967 And Milliken got exactly what he deserved. 1002 00:46:55,067 --> 00:46:56,668 And what about Billy? 1003 00:46:57,603 --> 00:46:59,538 He didn't deserve any of this. 1004 00:47:00,873 --> 00:47:02,909 Get him out of here. 1005 00:47:09,048 --> 00:47:11,183 Test one, test two. Test. 1006 00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:15,554 "How can a clam cram a clean, cream can?" 1007 00:47:15,654 --> 00:47:19,625 Well, if I may say, your script is solid, 1008 00:47:19,725 --> 00:47:21,727 but I'd like to propose a few tiny punch-ups. 1009 00:47:21,827 --> 00:47:23,262 Like, maybe a couple more 1010 00:47:23,362 --> 00:47:25,331 bumpers to my commercial breaks... 1011 00:47:25,431 --> 00:47:26,899 No. You stick to the words on the page. 1012 00:47:26,999 --> 00:47:29,401 Hey. We've gone over this before. 1013 00:47:29,501 --> 00:47:31,237 Can you honestly not comprehend 1014 00:47:31,337 --> 00:47:33,172 the gravity of what we're doing here? 1015 00:47:33,272 --> 00:47:35,074 I can, and I do. 1016 00:47:35,174 --> 00:47:37,910 But, seriously, if this guy's a fan of the podcast, 1017 00:47:38,044 --> 00:47:39,878 he'll probably be able to tell the difference 1018 00:47:39,979 --> 00:47:42,014 between me and "entrapment me." 1019 00:47:42,081 --> 00:47:43,649 It's not entrapment. 1020 00:47:43,749 --> 00:47:46,085 -You know what I mean. -LEWIS: Brian. 1021 00:47:46,185 --> 00:47:47,920 We're all set here. Okay? 1022 00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:49,688 And you're gonna do great. 1023 00:47:49,755 --> 00:47:51,423 Right now, when we're on the air, 1024 00:47:51,557 --> 00:47:53,359 we're hoping that the scripted words there 1025 00:47:53,425 --> 00:47:54,693 will entice this man 1026 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,095 -to call in. -And then, 1027 00:47:56,228 --> 00:47:58,264 we need to keep him on the line long enough 1028 00:47:58,364 --> 00:47:59,831 either to track his location... 1029 00:47:59,932 --> 00:48:02,768 Or get a decent slice of profile. 1030 00:48:02,868 --> 00:48:04,670 I do know. You did tell me. 1031 00:48:04,770 --> 00:48:07,439 Hey. We also told you if you deviate 1032 00:48:07,573 --> 00:48:09,675 one syllable from this script here, 1033 00:48:09,775 --> 00:48:11,543 somebody could die. 1034 00:48:11,643 --> 00:48:13,245 Are we clear? 1035 00:48:14,113 --> 00:48:15,781 Crystal. 1036 00:48:15,881 --> 00:48:17,849 Now let's make podcast history. 1037 00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:22,621 (indistinct radio chatter) 1038 00:48:22,721 --> 00:48:24,656 Whoa. 1039 00:48:26,658 --> 00:48:27,960 Hello, Brian. 1040 00:48:28,060 --> 00:48:29,461 Special guest appearance? 1041 00:48:29,561 --> 00:48:30,762 LEWIS: He's just here to observe. 1042 00:48:30,862 --> 00:48:32,331 Ignore him. 1043 00:48:32,464 --> 00:48:33,699 I mean it. 1044 00:48:33,799 --> 00:48:36,668 Do not say one word about him being here. 1045 00:48:36,802 --> 00:48:38,070 GARRITY: Okay, but... 1046 00:48:38,170 --> 00:48:39,671 wouldn't it make more sense for the guy 1047 00:48:39,771 --> 00:48:41,673 to just be able to talk directly to him? 1048 00:48:41,773 --> 00:48:45,344 No more questions. Stay on script. 1049 00:48:49,148 --> 00:48:50,182 Penelope? 1050 00:48:50,282 --> 00:48:51,883 Okay, Emily. Ready when you are. 1051 00:48:51,984 --> 00:48:54,320 Standing by to trace incoming calls. 1052 00:48:55,654 --> 00:48:56,755 (theme music plays) 1053 00:48:56,822 --> 00:48:58,690 Welcome to a very special episode 1054 00:48:58,824 --> 00:49:00,026 of The Sicarius Files. 1055 00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,928 We are coming to you live from the FBI, 1056 00:49:02,995 --> 00:49:05,497 and we are joined by renowned author 1057 00:49:05,597 --> 00:49:09,335 and supervisory special agent David Rossi. 1058 00:49:11,970 --> 00:49:13,539 Thanks for being here, David. 1059 00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:15,907 Thanks for having me, Brian. 1060 00:49:16,008 --> 00:49:17,876 GARRITY: This is a live episode, folks, 1061 00:49:17,976 --> 00:49:19,645 so don't be shy. We're taking calls, 1062 00:49:19,745 --> 00:49:21,613 and you can find our number at the official 1063 00:49:21,713 --> 00:49:23,549 Sicarius Files website. 1064 00:49:23,682 --> 00:49:25,384 So, David, 1065 00:49:25,484 --> 00:49:28,154 there's so much to talk about with your storied career, 1066 00:49:28,254 --> 00:49:30,922 but for our purposes, we'll focus solely 1067 00:49:31,023 --> 00:49:33,459 on Elias Voit, the Sicarius Killer. 1068 00:49:33,525 --> 00:49:36,495 I'd like to start at, well, the beginning. 1069 00:49:36,562 --> 00:49:39,565 So, tell me, when were you first made aware 1070 00:49:39,665 --> 00:49:41,533 of Dr. Tara Lewis's discovery 1071 00:49:41,633 --> 00:49:44,336 of the buried shipping container in Yakima County? 1072 00:49:44,403 --> 00:49:45,637 CALLER: Uh, my question for Agent Rossi 1073 00:49:45,704 --> 00:49:47,173 has to do with Benjamin Reeves. 1074 00:49:47,273 --> 00:49:49,341 Is it true that Reeves basically helped Voit... 1075 00:49:49,441 --> 00:49:51,210 CALLER 2: Somebody once told me that Second Street is, like, 1076 00:49:51,310 --> 00:49:53,412 the most common street name in America, but... 1077 00:49:53,545 --> 00:49:55,347 ROSSI: So, in that surveillance video 1078 00:49:55,447 --> 00:50:00,152 from the hardware store, um, while I couldn't I.D. Voit, 1079 00:50:00,219 --> 00:50:04,156 I was able to see him reaching into his back pocket, 1080 00:50:04,223 --> 00:50:06,758 trying to mute his cell phone. 1081 00:50:06,892 --> 00:50:09,027 CALLER 3: Which then led you to conduct a trace 1082 00:50:09,095 --> 00:50:11,763 of cell phone calls to and from that region of the country? 1083 00:50:11,863 --> 00:50:13,099 Yes, that's right. 1084 00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:14,966 Thanks for your call, Oliver. 1085 00:50:15,067 --> 00:50:18,770 So, um, you run that trace and you get hundreds of calls 1086 00:50:18,904 --> 00:50:20,106 you have to go through, 1087 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,040 but since you know the timing of the calls, 1088 00:50:22,108 --> 00:50:24,943 you were able to pretty much zero in on Seattle. 1089 00:50:25,077 --> 00:50:27,546 -ROSSI: That's right, because... -And I will pause you there, 1090 00:50:27,613 --> 00:50:29,047 because we are getting another caller. 1091 00:50:29,115 --> 00:50:31,583 Uh, hi. You are live 1092 00:50:31,683 --> 00:50:35,287 on the air with Brian Garrity and SSA David Rossi. 1093 00:50:35,387 --> 00:50:38,357 With whom do we have the pleasure of speaking? 1094 00:50:38,424 --> 00:50:40,392 KINGSTON: Call me God. 1095 00:50:49,968 --> 00:50:52,304 Okay. We will call you God. 1096 00:50:52,404 --> 00:50:54,640 Do you have a question? 1097 00:50:56,342 --> 00:50:57,876 KINGSTON: Why Sicarius spiders? 1098 00:50:58,009 --> 00:50:59,378 GARRITY: The spiders... 1099 00:50:59,478 --> 00:51:01,046 Okay, Emily. I've isolated the phone line. 1100 00:51:01,180 --> 00:51:04,316 -Can you get a trace? -Uh, not exactly. 1101 00:51:04,416 --> 00:51:05,551 Is he running countermeasures? 1102 00:51:05,684 --> 00:51:07,286 He is definitely a student of Voit's. 1103 00:51:07,386 --> 00:51:09,155 Okay, I want you to keep the phone line open 1104 00:51:09,221 --> 00:51:11,190 but pause the live stream right now. 1105 00:51:11,257 --> 00:51:12,358 Okay, yeah. 1106 00:51:12,458 --> 00:51:13,692 ...the Sicarius case. 1107 00:51:13,759 --> 00:51:15,827 Uh, as a fan of the podcast, of course, 1108 00:51:15,894 --> 00:51:18,029 you are familiar with Elias Voit's testimony 1109 00:51:18,130 --> 00:51:19,331 regarding the spiders. 1110 00:51:19,398 --> 00:51:20,732 KINGSTON: Let David Rossi answer. 1111 00:51:20,832 --> 00:51:22,268 Why Sicarius? 1112 00:51:22,401 --> 00:51:25,103 I-I recognize that voice. 1113 00:51:25,204 --> 00:51:27,038 It's Lance Kingston. 1114 00:51:27,105 --> 00:51:29,608 But he can't be our guy. 1115 00:51:29,741 --> 00:51:31,310 No, he's not. He's his hostage. 1116 00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:32,578 ROSSI: Clearly, you're not satisfied 1117 00:51:32,678 --> 00:51:34,713 with Voit's own answer. 1118 00:51:34,813 --> 00:51:36,114 (keyboard clicking) 1119 00:51:36,248 --> 00:51:38,083 KINGSTON: I am not. 1120 00:51:38,184 --> 00:51:40,419 Were the Sicarius spiders part of Voit's 1121 00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:43,189 counterintelligence training in interrogation tactics? 1122 00:51:44,590 --> 00:51:48,227 Uh, in a previous episode, I described how I embellished 1123 00:51:48,327 --> 00:51:50,696 certain aspects of The Sicarius Files 1124 00:51:50,796 --> 00:51:52,298 for dramatic purposes. 1125 00:51:52,431 --> 00:51:54,633 The fact is, I lied. 1126 00:51:54,766 --> 00:51:58,904 Elias Voit has nothing to do with the FBI 1127 00:51:58,970 --> 00:52:02,574 and is not associated with any government agency or program. 1128 00:52:02,641 --> 00:52:04,776 Are you saying Voit is unique? 1129 00:52:04,876 --> 00:52:08,113 He's rare but not unique. 1130 00:52:08,947 --> 00:52:12,184 Much like yourself. 1131 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,623 Are you trying to profile me? 1132 00:52:19,891 --> 00:52:22,194 Oh, I, uh, I couldn't even if I wanted to, 1133 00:52:22,294 --> 00:52:24,663 because I'm not speaking to you. 1134 00:52:24,796 --> 00:52:28,300 I'm speaking to Lance Kingston, 1135 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,270 the man you're holding captive. 1136 00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:33,572 (breathing heavily) 1137 00:52:34,973 --> 00:52:36,875 Penelope, talk to me. 1138 00:52:36,975 --> 00:52:39,044 I'm so close. I am so, so close. 1139 00:52:39,144 --> 00:52:41,413 -We don't have much more time. -Okay. I know, I know. 1140 00:52:41,513 --> 00:52:43,014 ROSSI: And I know the reason 1141 00:52:43,114 --> 00:52:45,150 why you're still holding Lance captive 1142 00:52:45,251 --> 00:52:46,485 and using him as your proxy 1143 00:52:46,618 --> 00:52:51,423 is Lance's death will satisfy nothing for you. 1144 00:52:51,523 --> 00:52:53,325 KINGSTON: Ramona Havener. 1145 00:52:53,459 --> 00:52:55,427 ROSSI: What about her? 1146 00:52:55,527 --> 00:52:56,895 Voit spared her life, 1147 00:52:56,995 --> 00:52:58,564 and her testimony led to his conviction. 1148 00:52:58,664 --> 00:52:59,898 Oh, he didn't spare Ramona. 1149 00:52:59,998 --> 00:53:01,500 He turned her over to Arthur Kiel, 1150 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,936 whom he knew would abuse and strangle her. 1151 00:53:05,036 --> 00:53:07,273 -But Arthur Kiel did not. -No. 1152 00:53:07,339 --> 00:53:10,141 Because we found her first. 1153 00:53:10,208 --> 00:53:12,711 Why didn't Voit kill her himself? 1154 00:53:15,814 --> 00:53:18,884 Well, that was, um... 1155 00:53:19,685 --> 00:53:22,354 ...that was because Ramona reminded him 1156 00:53:22,454 --> 00:53:25,123 of his ex-wife Sydney. 1157 00:53:27,025 --> 00:53:28,694 Okay, I got him. I got him. 1158 00:53:28,827 --> 00:53:31,797 He's at the Stash-All Storage facility in Richmond, Virginia. 1159 00:53:31,897 --> 00:53:33,865 It's a garage unit being rented by Lance Kingston. 1160 00:53:33,999 --> 00:53:35,834 The Stash-All Storage, Richmond, Virginia. 1161 00:53:35,934 --> 00:53:36,835 Yeah, I'm on it. 1162 00:53:36,935 --> 00:53:38,304 GARRITY: God? 1163 00:53:38,404 --> 00:53:40,406 Are you still with us? 1164 00:53:40,506 --> 00:53:42,207 KINGSTON: Is he there? 1165 00:53:42,341 --> 00:53:45,076 -Is who here? -Voit. 1166 00:53:50,716 --> 00:53:52,584 No. 1167 00:53:52,684 --> 00:53:55,186 (panting) 1168 00:53:55,253 --> 00:53:57,423 * * 1169 00:54:02,193 --> 00:54:03,795 (metal scrapes) 1170 00:54:04,730 --> 00:54:07,065 -(sizzling) -(screaming) 1171 00:54:08,767 --> 00:54:10,302 -(gasps) -KINGSTON: Oh, God, 1172 00:54:10,402 --> 00:54:11,803 -tell him! -What the... 1173 00:54:12,704 --> 00:54:14,239 Lance? 1174 00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:16,508 -No, don't... Stop, stop, stop! -(sizzling) 1175 00:54:16,608 --> 00:54:18,944 -Brian. -For fuck's sake, tell him! Is he there?! 1176 00:54:19,044 --> 00:54:20,346 Please! 1177 00:54:20,412 --> 00:54:23,214 Tell him! He's gonna kill me! (sobbing) 1178 00:54:23,315 --> 00:54:25,250 (stammers) 1179 00:54:25,351 --> 00:54:26,518 Yes, he's here! 1180 00:54:26,618 --> 00:54:27,586 No. 1181 00:54:27,686 --> 00:54:29,254 KINGSTON: No, no, no, no. 1182 00:54:29,355 --> 00:54:31,089 -(sizzling) -No, stop! Stop! 1183 00:54:31,189 --> 00:54:32,724 GARRITY: Lance? 1184 00:54:32,824 --> 00:54:34,460 He's, uh-- Voit is here. 1185 00:54:34,593 --> 00:54:37,329 -Elias Voit is here. You can talk to him. -(screaming) 1186 00:54:38,797 --> 00:54:40,466 Oh, God. 1187 00:54:43,402 --> 00:54:45,471 What just happened? 1188 00:54:45,571 --> 00:54:47,806 (sighs) 1189 00:54:53,011 --> 00:54:55,381 You just caused a man's death.