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Darling.

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Rama.

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You were calling for your mother.

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What?

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You were saying, "Mom, Mom."

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Don't be ridiculous.

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Wait, please.

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They are young.

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They are heroes with no imagination.

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They shave my head carefully
till they're done.

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They believe it's their duty
to shave the women's heads well.

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Are you ashamed for them, my love?

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No.

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You are dead.

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I'm far too busy suffering.

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Night falls.

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All I hear is the sound of scissors
cutting my hair.

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It slightly eases the pain of your death.

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Oh the pain!

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The pain in my heart...
it's unbelievable.

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All around,
they're singing the Marseillaise.

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My father's drug store is closed
because of the disgrace.

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I am alone.

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Some of them laugh.

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At night, I return home.

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This week's class will focus
on the work of Marguerite Duras.

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More precisely,

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how the author
uses the power of her narrative

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to sublimate reality.

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The images you have just seen...

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I chose to link their direct violence

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and full on historic significance,
to the shaved-headed woman that Duras

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creates in Hiroshima, my love,

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to demonstrate how the author
managed to transform the shock

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and feeling of revolt
in the face of these acts,

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which were commonplace
at the end of the war,

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into an almost lyrical song.

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Listening to the text,

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the author's intention is crystal clear.

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This woman is humiliated,

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distraught,

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branded like a prisoner,

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all be it temporarily
as hair does grow back,

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but branded forever on her memory

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and that of those around her.

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This woman, an object of shame,

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becomes, thanks to the author's words,

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not only a heroine

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but a human being in a state of grace.

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Hello.

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- Hello, Mrs. Fall.
- Hello, Adrien.

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- How are you?
- I'm OK.

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Hi.

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Hi, Tenning.

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You OK?

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I'd better check on the food.

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I'll come with you.

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Here's your medication, Mom.

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Don't worry, Mom, it's nothing.

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I'm really enjoying this.

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- So I see.
- Bravo.

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- It's delicious.
- Thank you.

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Adrien, tell me about your work.

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It's going really well.

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It was our bass player's birthday
at the last concert.

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The audience sang Happy Birthday to him.

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He was thrilled.

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We're doing alright.

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We have work.

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Touch wood.

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How about you, Rama,
is the new book coming on well?

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- And you?
- I'm OK.

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A bit tired from work, but I'm OK.

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It doesn't show, you look well.

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- Good.
- Those earrings really suit you.

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- That's true.
- Thank you.

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You don't often wear earrings,
they suit you.

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Where are you going on holiday this year?

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I don't think we'll go away this year.

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We have some major work
to do on the house.

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What kind of work?

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Nothing very important.

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Nothing very important, yeah.

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Right.

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By the way,

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can you take Mom to physio on Monday?
I finish too late.

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I can't on Monday.
I'm in meetings all day.

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How about you, Rama,

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- can you take her?
- No, I can't.

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You could make an effort.

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But I can't. I won't be here.

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There's Dad.

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Do you remember that cousin?
We never see him.

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- I think that's Uncle Bamba.
- I don't know.

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Yeah, I think it's him.

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There were so many of us!

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Those were happy times.

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You can't tell Dad was sick at the time.

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It didn't show.

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There's Mom. What memories.

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Incredible.

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Look at her!

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Incredible.

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There's Rama.

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- Always calm.
- She was shy.

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Incredible.

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She was already a wild little thing.

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Mom?

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Mom?

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Will you be OK?

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Yes.

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- Call me when you arrive.
- OK.

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Ciao.

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All rise.

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Please be seated.

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Ask the journalists to leave.

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Would all journalists please leave.

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Bailiff, bring in the defendant.

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Gentlemen, please remove the handcuffs.

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Please state your full name,

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date and place of birth
and your parents' full names.

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My name is Laurence Coly.

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I was born March 15, 1980,
in Dakar, Senegal.

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My father's name is Robert Coly,

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my mother's name, Odile Diatta.

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What is your profession?

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I'm a student.

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At the time of your arrest,
you were living with Mr. Luc Dumontet,

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at 29, Avenue du Général De Gaulle,
in Saint-Mandé.

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- Is that correct, Ms. Coly?
- Yes.

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You may be seated.

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The court will now proceed
with jury selection.

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If any of you, ladies and gentlemen,

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are related to the defendant
or her family,

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to any of the attorneys

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or judges, you must say so now.

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Juror number fifteen.

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Mrs. Evelyne Pringent.

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Born February 28, 1958, in Lille.

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Lives in Saint-Omer.

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Profession: Chartered accountant.

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Dismissed.

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Juror number seventeen.

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Mrs.Yasmina Belhadj.

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Born June 22, 1990, in Paris.

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Lives in Clairmarais.

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Profession: Project manager.

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Dismissed.

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Juror number eighteen.

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Mrs. Sandrine Deportaire.

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Born February 19, 1986, in Lille.

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Lives in Armentières.

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Profession: Nurse.

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Please be seated.

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Juror number twenty-one.

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Mr. Julien Titrain.

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Born August 9, 1986, in Calais...

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Ms. Coly, please stand up.

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Ms. Coly,

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you are accused of the murder
of your 15-month-old daughter, Elise.

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The indictment we will now read,
details the facts

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that led to your arrest.

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On November 11, 2015,

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a man went into a police station
in Berck-sur-Mer.

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He reported finding the body of a child
on the beach that morning.

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He told the police officers
that while he was shore fishing,

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he noticed a shape
washed up on the sand.

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At first, he thought it was a seal.

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He went over to it
and discovered the corpse of a child.

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A medical examiner inspected the body

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and confirmed that the corpse
was that of a little girl,

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the cause of death:
drowning, suffocated by saltwater.

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There were no toxic substances

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or signs of abuse on the child's body.

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The investigators first thought the child
was a migrant drowned in a shipwreck.

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That same evening,

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the manager of Les Embruns hotel
went to the police station.

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He remembered a female guest and a child
who had spent a night at the hotel.

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The name given by the guest
enabled the officers to search

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the national immigration database.

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The name was Ms. Laurence Coly,

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living with Mr. Luc Dumontet,

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at 29, Avenue du Général De Gaulle,
in Saint-Mandé,

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in the Paris metropolitan area.

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The officers went
to your place of residence

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on November 20, 2015,

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nine days after the corpse was found.

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At first, you told them you'd sent
your daughter to your mother in Dakar

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to give yourself time
to write your thesis.

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You were informed that you were seen
with the child at the Gare du Nord,

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on the beach
and at the hotel in Berck-sur-Mer.

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Images from the CCTV cameras show

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that you returned to Paris alone,

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without the child.

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This was when you confessed.

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You told the detectives
that you killed your daughter because,

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I quote, "It would make life easier."

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You claimed to have committed the crime
after a violent clash with Mr. Dumontet.

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You claimed to have left
your daughter on the beach

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believing that the sea
would carry away her body.

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You claimed to have been, I quote,

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"Drawn into a tragic and vile venture."

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And although you claim
to have Western values,

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you describe "hallucinatory" phenomena

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of which you claim to be the victim.

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You talk of an "evil-eye,"

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you say you were cursed
by your family in Senegal

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and by Mr. Dumontet's family.

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Ms. Coly,

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do you know why you killed your daughter?

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I don't know.

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I hope this trial
will give me the answer.

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- Do you accept the alleged facts?
- Yes, I do.

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How do you plead?

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I plead not guilty, Your Honor.

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I don't think I'm the responsible party
in this case.

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What do you mean by,
"I don't think I'm the responsible party?"

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The two years before my daughter's death
were the worst of my life.

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Ms. Coly,

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we are here to try to understand,
you must explain.

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Mrs. Coly, we will now talk
about you and your life.

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You were born in Dakar.

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Your mother, Odile Diatta, is unemployed
and your father,

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Robert Coly,
a United Nations translator.

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They were in a relationship
for seven years.

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Could you tell us about your childhood?

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Shortly after I was born, my father
left my mother for another woman.

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I grew up with my mother
and my maternal grandmother.

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I was very close to my grandmother,
she took care of me.

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She was very affectionate with me.

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I was devastated by her death.

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She was called Elise,

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like my daughter.

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What were you like as a child?

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Materially, I lacked for nothing.

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We lived with others in a large house.

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We were comfortable.

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I think my childhood was quite ordinary.

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Cousins, birthday parties,
baptisms, Christmases...

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I was brought up as an only child.

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They say I was chatty, jolly...

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yet I remember sometimes,
I distanced myself from the others.

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It worried my grandmother,
but I needed time alone.

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I read a lot too.

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I was mad about literature.

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- Did you have friends?
- Not really.

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Why do you think that was?

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I don't know.

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Perhaps because my parent's situation
was rather unusual.

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Or because my mother
forbade me to speak Wolof.

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It distanced me from the others.

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Why were you forbidden to speak Wolof?

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She wanted me to speak perfect French
and only French.

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She wanted me to succeed in life.

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She was obsessed by my education.

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What about your father?

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- Did you see him regularly?
- Yes, I did.

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I went to his house
one Sunday per month.

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My father is a calm person.

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He can be severe, but...

261
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,918
he is sensitive and very cultured.

262
00:27:06,627 --> 00:27:08,545
We share a taste for the arts.

263
00:27:09,755 --> 00:27:11,882
With my mother, on the other hand,

264
00:27:14,468 --> 00:27:16,553
you could say it's more charged.

265
00:27:18,847 --> 00:27:21,475
- She is more hotheaded.
- Meaning?

266
00:27:22,518 --> 00:27:26,188
How would you describe
your relationship with your mother?

267
00:27:27,272 --> 00:27:29,816
When I was young,
my mother was often absent.

268
00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:33,570
She worked hard, she was always tired.

269
00:27:34,571 --> 00:27:37,866
Even if she had high expectations of me,

270
00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:43,413
- there was always a distance between us.
- Meaning?

271
00:27:44,248 --> 00:27:46,291
What do you mean by "distance"?

272
00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:49,086
I don't know.

273
00:27:51,129 --> 00:27:53,006
We don't have much in common.

274
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:55,801
We're not interested in the same things.

275
00:27:56,552 --> 00:27:58,303
We are very different.

276
00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:01,473
Your mother has lived in Italy
for several years.

277
00:28:01,515 --> 00:28:03,934
She told the detectives

278
00:28:03,976 --> 00:28:07,938
that you called each other regularly,
at least once a week.

279
00:28:08,981 --> 00:28:11,441
This statement suggests

280
00:28:12,025 --> 00:28:15,487
that you were close,
Ms. Coly, not distant.

281
00:28:15,529 --> 00:28:17,155
I don't know.

282
00:28:17,197 --> 00:28:18,991
We called each other because...

283
00:28:19,408 --> 00:28:21,743
one has to call one's mother,
that's how it is.

284
00:28:23,203 --> 00:28:25,956
Would you say you were a wanted child?

285
00:28:26,415 --> 00:28:27,791
I don't know.

286
00:28:28,166 --> 00:28:31,378
You should ask them,
it didn't feel that way.

287
00:28:35,549 --> 00:28:37,759
What was your education like?

288
00:28:38,844 --> 00:28:42,306
My education was classic, literary.

289
00:28:42,347 --> 00:28:45,100
I attended the same Catholic school
all the way through.

290
00:28:45,809 --> 00:28:47,144
I was a good student.

291
00:28:47,811 --> 00:28:49,563
I knew what I wanted to study.

292
00:28:50,063 --> 00:28:51,481
My father supported me.

293
00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:53,609
I wanted to study law.

294
00:28:53,650 --> 00:28:55,944
Why did you decide to come to France?

295
00:28:57,946 --> 00:28:59,698
To get away from my parents.

296
00:29:02,618 --> 00:29:05,078
You just described a happy childhood,

297
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,915
yet you wanted
to get away from your parents.

298
00:29:07,956 --> 00:29:10,000
That's contradictory.

299
00:29:12,503 --> 00:29:16,256
On the outside, everything was fine,
but it was oppressive.

300
00:29:17,591 --> 00:29:19,259
My father

301
00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:22,721
put a lot of pressure on me.

302
00:29:22,763 --> 00:29:25,140
I am his only biological child.

303
00:29:28,852 --> 00:29:31,104
I carried a lot of weight
on my shoulders.

304
00:29:33,106 --> 00:29:35,400
As for my mother, like I said,

305
00:29:35,442 --> 00:29:37,611
it was more or less the same thing.

306
00:29:37,653 --> 00:29:39,029
Sometimes,

307
00:29:39,404 --> 00:29:42,449
I felt she was projecting
her own desires onto me.

308
00:29:46,245 --> 00:29:49,289
Their obsession with my success
tormented me.

309
00:29:56,588 --> 00:30:00,509
You came to France in 1998.

310
00:30:00,551 --> 00:30:04,263
You lived with one of your maternal aunts

311
00:30:04,304 --> 00:30:06,640
in the 5th arrondissement, in Paris.

312
00:30:06,682 --> 00:30:09,434
How were your first years in Paris?

313
00:30:11,895 --> 00:30:13,981
I stayed with my aunt for two years.

314
00:30:14,439 --> 00:30:17,776
After that, I shared an apartment
with a cousin, Marthe.

315
00:30:18,652 --> 00:30:20,320
My father paid the rent,

316
00:30:20,362 --> 00:30:22,364
I attended university.

317
00:30:23,532 --> 00:30:25,701
It should have gone well, but...

318
00:30:26,577 --> 00:30:28,620
there were problems with Marthe.

319
00:30:29,204 --> 00:30:31,999
She caused trouble,
she was jealous of me.

320
00:30:33,208 --> 00:30:35,419
The year I spent with her was horrible.

321
00:30:37,963 --> 00:30:40,549
At that time,
something inside me snapped.

322
00:30:42,968 --> 00:30:44,386
After that...

323
00:30:46,638 --> 00:30:50,392
I went back to Dakar for a while
for my grandmother's funeral.

324
00:30:50,434 --> 00:30:51,810
There,

325
00:30:52,144 --> 00:30:54,646
everyone was weird around me.

326
00:30:54,688 --> 00:30:56,273
They called me an Oreo

327
00:30:56,315 --> 00:30:59,067
because I acted like
a white Parisian woman.

328
00:31:00,110 --> 00:31:02,362
It was a very difficult trip.

329
00:31:03,322 --> 00:31:06,325
I argued a lot with my mother.

330
00:31:08,202 --> 00:31:09,953
She also said I had changed.

331
00:31:11,705 --> 00:31:14,333
My only desire was to return to France,

332
00:31:14,374 --> 00:31:16,835
but I didn't want to live
with my cousin again.

333
00:31:18,212 --> 00:31:20,464
I went back to my aunt's place,

334
00:31:20,506 --> 00:31:22,674
but I only stayed for three months.

335
00:31:22,716 --> 00:31:26,512
I found a room
in exchange for child minding.

336
00:31:26,887 --> 00:31:30,599
Yes, the mother of those children,
Mrs. Vincent,

337
00:31:31,058 --> 00:31:33,519
said you were
very affectionate with them.

338
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,856
She said you were, "Kind, intelligent,"

339
00:31:37,898 --> 00:31:40,067
it seems she really liked you.

340
00:31:40,817 --> 00:31:42,945
I got on well with the children.

341
00:31:43,278 --> 00:31:46,198
I looked after them for a few years,
then I stopped.

342
00:31:47,074 --> 00:31:49,201
My father stopped sending me money.

343
00:31:49,576 --> 00:31:53,413
He was disappointed that I decided
to do philosophy and not law.

344
00:31:54,581 --> 00:31:56,583
He refused to support me.

345
00:31:57,334 --> 00:31:58,418
He...

346
00:32:00,295 --> 00:32:01,839
When he found out...

347
00:32:11,765 --> 00:32:14,726
Your father wasn't able
to attend your trial,

348
00:32:14,768 --> 00:32:17,521
he claimed he had
an urgent job in Cameroun.

349
00:32:18,063 --> 00:32:20,607
I will read an extract
from his statement.

350
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:26,321
"Laurence was an obedient,
intelligent and gifted child.

351
00:32:27,030 --> 00:32:31,535
"Our relationship became complicated
when she went to France."

352
00:32:34,371 --> 00:32:37,207
Your father mentions
an argument you had in 2002,

353
00:32:37,249 --> 00:32:39,126
after which, you cut ties.

354
00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:43,922
What was the argument about?

355
00:32:47,092 --> 00:32:50,345
It was at Christmas, over the phone.

356
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:54,683
He'd found out
that I'd stopped attending university.

357
00:32:55,017 --> 00:32:56,810
He was very cross.

358
00:32:58,228 --> 00:33:00,105
I told him

359
00:33:01,315 --> 00:33:05,485
I wanted to swap law for philosophy,
but he was against it.

360
00:33:06,695 --> 00:33:09,823
He said he'd stop supporting me
if I didn't change my mind.

361
00:33:13,076 --> 00:33:15,662
So that was when all ties were cut?

362
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:17,039
Yes.

363
00:33:19,541 --> 00:33:22,336
When your father stopped supporting you,

364
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,007
was that when things started
to go badly with Mrs. Vincent?

365
00:33:27,883 --> 00:33:29,510
Yes, it was then.

366
00:33:30,052 --> 00:33:31,762
I had no income.

367
00:33:32,304 --> 00:33:35,474
I couldn't pay the rent
and my mother couldn't help me.

368
00:33:38,602 --> 00:33:42,731
When Mrs. Vincent asked you to move out,

369
00:33:42,981 --> 00:33:45,734
she says you emotionally blackmailed her.

370
00:33:45,776 --> 00:33:48,403
That's not true.
I just asked her for some time.

371
00:33:48,695 --> 00:33:50,572
I had to find a solution.

372
00:33:50,614 --> 00:33:52,783
I didn't want to go back to my aunt's.

373
00:33:57,246 --> 00:33:59,706
Was it at that time

374
00:33:59,748 --> 00:34:02,584
that you moved in with Mr. Dumontet?

375
00:34:03,043 --> 00:34:04,086
Yes.

376
00:34:05,629 --> 00:34:07,506
How did you meet him?

377
00:34:08,590 --> 00:34:10,926
At a dinner at my aunt's place.

378
00:34:11,844 --> 00:34:13,637
He knew her from Senegal.

379
00:34:14,763 --> 00:34:16,723
I think my aunt had her eye on him.

380
00:34:16,764 --> 00:34:18,684
What made you think that?

381
00:34:20,978 --> 00:34:22,271
I don't know.

382
00:34:22,855 --> 00:34:25,107
She seemed flattered
that he came to see her.

383
00:34:26,650 --> 00:34:28,235
I always suspected it.

384
00:34:29,695 --> 00:34:31,655
She flirted with him.

385
00:34:32,531 --> 00:34:34,992
Luc always denied it when I asked him.

386
00:34:37,327 --> 00:34:39,913
I think she invited me to impress him.

387
00:34:40,371 --> 00:34:43,500
Having a well-educated niece
made her look good.

388
00:34:46,170 --> 00:34:49,547
We spoke a lot that night.

389
00:34:50,882 --> 00:34:53,760
Luc knew Senegal well,
he'd spent some time there.

390
00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:57,890
He invited me to an exhibition
the next day.

391
00:34:59,266 --> 00:35:01,393
We started to spend time together.

392
00:35:02,186 --> 00:35:04,897
We got on well
despite our age difference.

393
00:35:05,564 --> 00:35:07,024
He was 57,

394
00:35:07,524 --> 00:35:08,901
I was 24.

395
00:35:10,944 --> 00:35:14,990
Did you have any romantic relationships
before Mr. Dumontet?

396
00:35:15,032 --> 00:35:17,826
The only relationship I've ever had
was with Mr. Dumontet.

397
00:35:18,911 --> 00:35:23,165
Did you have sexual relations
with anyone other than Mr. Dumontet?

398
00:35:23,207 --> 00:35:24,374
No.

399
00:35:29,671 --> 00:35:33,425
Did you both agree
that you'd live together?

400
00:35:34,843 --> 00:35:37,054
I think Luc was reluctant.

401
00:35:37,095 --> 00:35:39,056
But for me, living with him made sense,

402
00:35:39,097 --> 00:35:41,600
I couldn't continue
living with Mrs. Vincent.

403
00:35:41,642 --> 00:35:42,684
And

404
00:35:43,227 --> 00:35:44,937
I spent all my time with him.

405
00:35:44,978 --> 00:35:49,066
What did you know about Luc Dumontet
when you met him?

406
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:53,028
I knew he had spent time in Africa.

407
00:35:54,696 --> 00:35:57,741
I knew he worked for
a major transport company,

408
00:35:58,116 --> 00:36:01,537
that he'd left his job
to follow his passion, sculpture.

409
00:36:02,538 --> 00:36:05,249
Shortly after we met,

410
00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:08,293
he moved into an artist's studio
in St. Mandé.

411
00:36:08,919 --> 00:36:12,631
Were you in love
when you decided to move in with him?

412
00:36:12,673 --> 00:36:13,715
Yes.

413
00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:18,554
Was it at this time
that you went back to university?

414
00:36:18,595 --> 00:36:20,264
Luc encouraged me to study again.

415
00:36:21,682 --> 00:36:25,769
He offered to pay for my studies
so I could be independent later on.

416
00:36:26,228 --> 00:36:28,897
When you moved in with Luc Dumontet,

417
00:36:29,398 --> 00:36:31,900
did you know he had a daughter?

418
00:36:32,317 --> 00:36:33,777
That he was still married?

419
00:36:33,819 --> 00:36:35,904
Even if he wasn't living with them.

420
00:36:35,946 --> 00:36:36,905
Yes.

421
00:36:37,281 --> 00:36:38,824
I knew from the start.

422
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:42,703
I saw his daughter
once or twice in St. Mandé.

423
00:36:42,744 --> 00:36:44,621
I saw his wife once.

424
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:52,129
Any questions?

425
00:36:56,049 --> 00:36:57,593
Counselor Vaudenay.

426
00:37:01,180 --> 00:37:04,266
How was your relationship
with Mr. Dumontet's family

427
00:37:04,308 --> 00:37:06,310
when you moved in with him?

428
00:37:07,186 --> 00:37:09,062
He didn't introduce me to any of them.

429
00:37:10,105 --> 00:37:13,275
Luc lunched with his wife once a week,
I had no say in it.

430
00:37:14,151 --> 00:37:17,070
I don't know what he told her about me,
he wouldn't say.

431
00:37:18,739 --> 00:37:20,949
I didn't exist when she was around.

432
00:37:21,658 --> 00:37:25,120
He said they were just friends
but I didn't know if it was true.

433
00:37:25,954 --> 00:37:28,248
I wasn't invited
to his daughter's wedding,

434
00:37:28,290 --> 00:37:30,626
but he did ask me to cook the meal.

435
00:37:31,251 --> 00:37:35,130
When the reception began at the studio,
Luc booked me into a hotel.

436
00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:38,383
He slipped me out through the back door.

437
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,722
No further questions, Your Honor.

438
00:37:46,099 --> 00:37:48,894
Ms. Coly, at what point

439
00:37:48,936 --> 00:37:53,398
did your relationship with Mr. Dumontet
start to deteriorate?

440
00:37:58,946 --> 00:38:01,281
Certain facts distanced me from him.

441
00:38:01,323 --> 00:38:02,616
What do you mean?

442
00:38:04,326 --> 00:38:05,827
I had visions.

443
00:38:06,620 --> 00:38:07,955
A flash.

444
00:38:08,622 --> 00:38:09,957
About a secret of his.

445
00:38:11,250 --> 00:38:12,918
A secret he keeps to himself.

446
00:38:13,544 --> 00:38:16,338
You didn't mention that
during the investigation.

447
00:38:16,922 --> 00:38:19,424
You described recurrent harassment,

448
00:38:19,466 --> 00:38:22,719
disdain, indifference, lack of interest.

449
00:38:22,761 --> 00:38:25,097
Those were your grievances.

450
00:38:25,138 --> 00:38:29,142
In addition, you resented him
for visiting his brother in Auvergne.

451
00:38:29,184 --> 00:38:30,352
No.

452
00:38:30,811 --> 00:38:34,189
I meant it was Luc's attitude
and behavior that puzzled me.

453
00:38:34,231 --> 00:38:38,777
Parties or birthdays spent with the wife
he had supposedly left, not with me.

454
00:38:39,361 --> 00:38:40,654
It was as if...

455
00:38:41,154 --> 00:38:44,324
someone or something
wanted to distance him from me.

456
00:38:49,454 --> 00:38:50,581
Did you want a child?

457
00:38:50,622 --> 00:38:51,957
No.

458
00:38:51,999 --> 00:38:55,586
- Did you use contraception?
- No, we had sex sporadically.

459
00:38:55,627 --> 00:38:59,798
When Luc Dumontet noticed the pregnancy,
you told him you wouldn't terminate it.

460
00:39:00,591 --> 00:39:01,717
Why?

461
00:39:02,467 --> 00:39:05,387
When Luc found out,
it was too late for an abortion.

462
00:39:08,849 --> 00:39:12,102
I didn't get pregnant on purpose
as he told the investigator.

463
00:39:12,811 --> 00:39:14,730
Throughout my entire pregnancy,

464
00:39:14,771 --> 00:39:17,149
he kept looking at me, saying

465
00:39:17,191 --> 00:39:19,902
"What will you do?",
never "What will we do?"

466
00:39:20,652 --> 00:39:22,112
I said to him,

467
00:39:23,822 --> 00:39:25,199
"Don't worry,

468
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:28,911
"you'll still have your life,

469
00:39:30,412 --> 00:39:33,332
"you'll still deny my existence
and that of the child,"

470
00:39:35,042 --> 00:39:36,919
he always found a way to do that.

471
00:39:45,135 --> 00:39:46,762
You may sit down.

472
00:40:01,109 --> 00:40:03,654
Mr. Dumontet, come forward please.

473
00:40:04,154 --> 00:40:05,864
The court will hear you.

474
00:40:13,413 --> 00:40:16,583
Mr. Dumontet, with hindsight,

475
00:40:18,001 --> 00:40:21,964
how do you explain what Ms. Coly did?

476
00:40:23,715 --> 00:40:27,511
It's incomprehensible, Your Honor.

477
00:40:27,553 --> 00:40:30,597
What Laurence did is incomprehensible.

478
00:40:32,015 --> 00:40:35,769
She was a wonderful mother,
the way she took care of Lili...

479
00:40:35,811 --> 00:40:37,938
She massaged her every day.

480
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:42,067
Lili was loved by both of us.

481
00:40:43,902 --> 00:40:45,529
Laurence Coly said earlier

482
00:40:45,571 --> 00:40:49,283
that you were reluctant
for her to move in with you.

483
00:40:49,575 --> 00:40:51,410
Do you agree with that?

484
00:40:51,451 --> 00:40:52,536
No.

485
00:40:53,787 --> 00:40:56,957
I was somewhat surprised
about the way it happened

486
00:40:56,999 --> 00:40:59,710
but I welcomed her gladly.

487
00:41:01,128 --> 00:41:03,505
We agreed on a three-year period,

488
00:41:03,547 --> 00:41:08,177
so that she could finish her studies
and find work as a university lecturer.

489
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,679
That was our agreement.

490
00:41:13,307 --> 00:41:16,518
For the most part,
I believe we got on well.

491
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,354
I would go as far as to say
that we were happy.

492
00:41:20,105 --> 00:41:22,107
At least in the beginning.

493
00:41:22,149 --> 00:41:24,067
We went out a lot.

494
00:41:24,693 --> 00:41:28,655
I was proud to have a woman like her
by my side.

495
00:41:30,991 --> 00:41:33,243
Sometimes, when she spoke

496
00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:37,706
about her struggles with the thesis,

497
00:41:37,748 --> 00:41:40,959
I admit, I didn't understand anything,

498
00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:43,128
I couldn't help her, but...

499
00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:45,339
I was very impressed by

500
00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:47,174
how knowledgeable she was.

501
00:41:56,058 --> 00:41:57,434
But...

502
00:41:59,436 --> 00:42:01,563
I should add that

503
00:42:01,897 --> 00:42:04,608
Laurence is a very difficult person.

504
00:42:05,275 --> 00:42:08,153
She is extremely jealous of everyone.

505
00:42:08,195 --> 00:42:10,614
Whenever a woman spoke to me,

506
00:42:10,656 --> 00:42:15,327
she became paranoid, crazy.

507
00:42:15,369 --> 00:42:17,788
She could stay angry for days

508
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:20,040
and give me the silent treatment.

509
00:42:20,457 --> 00:42:25,128
Her silence was very aggressive.

510
00:42:25,546 --> 00:42:29,508
She often told me that if she felt
I'd become too old and helpless,

511
00:42:30,133 --> 00:42:31,677
she would leave me.

512
00:42:33,011 --> 00:42:36,056
I took it for granted
that she'd leave me one day.

513
00:42:36,849 --> 00:42:39,852
Would you say
you had a romantic relationship

514
00:42:39,893 --> 00:42:42,145
with Ms. Coly?

515
00:42:43,230 --> 00:42:44,273
Yes.

516
00:42:44,982 --> 00:42:47,860
Yes, I think it was a love affair

517
00:42:47,901 --> 00:42:51,864
that went wrong and I don't know why.

518
00:42:53,782 --> 00:42:55,617
But it was a love affair.

519
00:42:55,659 --> 00:43:00,163
We conceived a child whom we both adored.

520
00:43:00,205 --> 00:43:03,292
And despite Laurence's temper,

521
00:43:04,543 --> 00:43:06,962
when the three of us lay in bed,

522
00:43:07,004 --> 00:43:10,757
I felt like the happiest man alive.

523
00:43:10,799 --> 00:43:15,387
Yet you never introduced Ms. Coly
to your friends or family.

524
00:43:16,388 --> 00:43:19,433
You told nobody about Elise's birth.

525
00:43:19,933 --> 00:43:21,435
How do you explain that?

526
00:43:21,476 --> 00:43:23,896
I thought Laurence
was embarrassed about us,

527
00:43:23,937 --> 00:43:27,524
she kept saying I was too old,
I didn't want to push her.

528
00:43:27,566 --> 00:43:29,651
And her jealousy...

529
00:43:30,194 --> 00:43:33,197
I was always afraid
she'd take things the wrong way,

530
00:43:33,238 --> 00:43:35,073
so I avoided certain subjects.

531
00:43:35,115 --> 00:43:38,076
And it was better for Elise, too.

532
00:43:38,911 --> 00:43:41,496
It was simpler for everyone.

533
00:43:46,793 --> 00:43:50,631
You said your relationship deteriorated

534
00:43:50,672 --> 00:43:53,258
before the child's birth.

535
00:43:54,301 --> 00:43:56,553
Didn't you think about contraception?

536
00:43:57,012 --> 00:43:58,096
No.

537
00:43:58,138 --> 00:44:02,226
Laurence told me that due to an illness
she didn't need it.

538
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,020
Didn't you notice her pregnancy?

539
00:44:07,147 --> 00:44:09,816
When did you realize she was pregnant?

540
00:44:09,858 --> 00:44:12,569
Of course I had my suspicions.

541
00:44:12,611 --> 00:44:16,406
But when I asked her,
she systematically denied it.

542
00:44:16,698 --> 00:44:18,867
When she did tell me, it was too late.

543
00:44:20,452 --> 00:44:22,496
I was away a lot.

544
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,375
I went to Clermont often
to visit my brother

545
00:44:26,416 --> 00:44:28,252
who was dying.

546
00:44:31,672 --> 00:44:35,509
Strangely, we were getting on better
at that time.

547
00:44:36,468 --> 00:44:38,804
Laurence seemed calmer.

548
00:44:41,306 --> 00:44:44,560
Then in August,
after one of those visits,

549
00:44:44,601 --> 00:44:47,813
when I returned, Lili was there.

550
00:44:49,398 --> 00:44:53,151
How did you feel when you arrived home
and saw the child?

551
00:44:53,944 --> 00:44:55,696
I was shocked.

552
00:44:56,738 --> 00:45:00,033
I was shocked to find Laurence
in bed with a baby,

553
00:45:00,075 --> 00:45:02,411
I was shocked she hadn't called me.

554
00:45:02,452 --> 00:45:04,162
Yet, I had returned

555
00:45:04,204 --> 00:45:07,666
two days before the delivery date
she had given me.

556
00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:11,879
Soon afterwards, Laurence told me
Lili had to go to Senegal

557
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,382
while she finished her studies
and found a job.

558
00:45:15,757 --> 00:45:19,261
She said I was too old
to look after a baby properly,

559
00:45:19,303 --> 00:45:22,472
that her mother was in Dakar
and would look after Lili.

560
00:45:28,187 --> 00:45:30,814
Your Honor, if I may,

561
00:45:30,856 --> 00:45:33,692
I'd like to talk about Lili.
Nobody has mentioned her.

562
00:45:33,734 --> 00:45:36,486
I'd like to talk about her,
I took care of her.

563
00:45:36,528 --> 00:45:40,824
Each morning, weather permitting,
I took her to the Bois de Vincennes.

564
00:45:41,366 --> 00:45:44,244
The nannies would see me,

565
00:45:44,286 --> 00:45:47,331
occasionally,
one of them would peek into the stroller

566
00:45:47,372 --> 00:45:50,709
and tell me how cute she was.

567
00:45:56,006 --> 00:45:58,217
One day, I...

568
00:45:59,510 --> 00:46:03,096
I was heavy handed with Lili,
it was nothing,

569
00:46:03,138 --> 00:46:07,351
Laurence was furious,
she accused me of not loving her.

570
00:46:07,392 --> 00:46:12,606
I said I'd get a divorce, marry her,
that I'd do anything for her and Lili.

571
00:46:12,648 --> 00:46:14,733
But during her pregnancy,

572
00:46:14,775 --> 00:46:16,401
did you look after Ms. Coly?

573
00:46:16,443 --> 00:46:20,656
Did you go with her to the scans
or doctor's appointments?

574
00:46:22,032 --> 00:46:25,619
No, I didn't know how to,
we didn't do that.

575
00:46:25,661 --> 00:46:29,748
When I had my daughter,
men didn't do those things.

576
00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:32,084
Nor did you acknowledge paternity.

577
00:46:34,211 --> 00:46:37,297
What's more, the first time
the detectives called you,

578
00:46:37,965 --> 00:46:40,592
you answered the phone and you told them,

579
00:46:41,009 --> 00:46:44,471
"Yes, a child lives here,
but I'm not the father."

580
00:46:44,513 --> 00:46:47,641
You told them
it was your girlfriend's daughter.

581
00:46:48,267 --> 00:46:50,519
How do you explain that, Mr. Dumontet?

582
00:46:53,188 --> 00:46:56,441
Laurence always said to me,
"She's mine, she's mine."

583
00:46:57,109 --> 00:47:00,612
When I asked her
if she'd registered the child,

584
00:47:00,654 --> 00:47:03,031
she said she had, but in her name.

585
00:47:04,116 --> 00:47:06,702
I thought perhaps it was for the better,

586
00:47:06,743 --> 00:47:09,329
that it would be complicated for Lili

587
00:47:09,371 --> 00:47:12,749
to bear the name Dumontet, in Senegal.

588
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:17,629
You never mentioned Lili
to your eldest daughter, Adeline?

589
00:47:22,676 --> 00:47:25,554
I thought it was
too complicated to explain,

590
00:47:25,596 --> 00:47:28,307
she'd just given birth herself...

591
00:47:29,892 --> 00:47:33,812
When Ms. Coly returned without Lili,
you had packed up her baby clothes

592
00:47:33,854 --> 00:47:35,564
to donate them to charity.

593
00:47:35,981 --> 00:47:38,567
You didn't tell a soul about her birth.

594
00:47:39,151 --> 00:47:44,156
You never questioned her mother's decision
to send the child to Senegal.

595
00:47:44,198 --> 00:47:47,993
Ms. Coly claims
you didn't care about Lili and her.

596
00:47:48,952 --> 00:47:51,747
Neither did you attend
the child's funeral.

597
00:47:53,290 --> 00:47:55,792
How should we interpret all that,
Mr. Dumontet?

598
00:47:56,293 --> 00:47:57,628
I don't know.

599
00:47:58,337 --> 00:47:59,838
I don't know.

600
00:48:02,716 --> 00:48:05,010
The funeral was too far away,

601
00:48:05,052 --> 00:48:06,637
I couldn't go there.

602
00:48:10,182 --> 00:48:14,228
The idea of Lili's death
was rather abstract for me.

603
00:48:14,269 --> 00:48:16,188
It's hard to grasp.

604
00:48:17,856 --> 00:48:21,318
I don't know, I don't know!

605
00:48:26,198 --> 00:48:28,867
Does the Prosecuting Attorney
have any questions?

606
00:48:29,868 --> 00:48:33,080
Mr. Dumontet, I do not doubt

607
00:48:33,121 --> 00:48:36,166
your good intentions towards Ms. Coly.

608
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:39,086
When she moved in with you,
her situation was critical.

609
00:48:39,127 --> 00:48:41,547
She was jobless, homeless,

610
00:48:41,588 --> 00:48:44,633
she wasn't even studying.
You took her in.

611
00:48:44,675 --> 00:48:48,929
You found her a job,
enabled her to go back to her studies,

612
00:48:49,638 --> 00:48:52,015
you even funded her studies.

613
00:48:52,766 --> 00:48:55,394
What didn't you do for this woman?

614
00:48:55,435 --> 00:48:56,436
And she...

615
00:48:56,728 --> 00:48:58,355
in return,

616
00:48:58,397 --> 00:49:01,024
I would love to know
what Ms. Coly gave you.

617
00:49:01,066 --> 00:49:05,028
While I don't doubt
your love for this woman,

618
00:49:05,070 --> 00:49:10,075
did she not move in with you
purely out of self-interest?

619
00:49:13,537 --> 00:49:16,123
No, I don't think so.

620
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,962
I believe we were genuinely in love.

621
00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:28,260
Counselor.

622
00:49:33,765 --> 00:49:38,770
Mr. Dumontet, do you believe you have
moral responsibility in this case?

623
00:49:41,356 --> 00:49:42,357
Yes.

624
00:49:43,150 --> 00:49:46,028
I am responsible for everything.

625
00:49:47,154 --> 00:49:51,116
I blame myself for everything,
I didn't protect Lili.

626
00:49:53,660 --> 00:49:56,955
I am paying for that.
I can never make amends.

627
00:49:58,415 --> 00:50:00,667
I've lost everything.
My life is worthless.

628
00:50:00,709 --> 00:50:03,712
My gown is black, Mr. Dumontet, not red.

629
00:50:03,754 --> 00:50:06,006
My role is not to judge you.

630
00:50:06,798 --> 00:50:09,134
But I will talk of your cowardice,

631
00:50:09,468 --> 00:50:12,513
your lack of involvement
in your daughter's birth.

632
00:50:13,180 --> 00:50:14,890
You didn't want the pregnancy.

633
00:50:15,307 --> 00:50:17,017
You didn't want the child.

634
00:50:17,059 --> 00:50:20,312
You had no intention
of changing your life in any way.

635
00:50:21,063 --> 00:50:24,816
You claim to speak of Lili,
but you speak only of yourself.

636
00:50:25,901 --> 00:50:28,820
Laurence Coly's distress
was staring you in the face,

637
00:50:28,862 --> 00:50:30,697
but you chose to turn a blind eye,

638
00:50:30,739 --> 00:50:33,242
because you didn't want to see it.

639
00:50:33,283 --> 00:50:35,285
Because you didn't care.

640
00:50:51,677 --> 00:50:53,387
Thank you, Mr. Dumontet.

641
00:51:08,193 --> 00:51:09,862
Stand up, Ms. Coly.

642
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,198
Ms. Coly,

643
00:51:13,657 --> 00:51:16,451
how are your prison conditions?

644
00:51:19,788 --> 00:51:21,206
It's calm.

645
00:51:21,915 --> 00:51:24,168
For the first three months,

646
00:51:24,209 --> 00:51:26,253
I didn't leave my cell.

647
00:51:28,589 --> 00:51:30,507
I was afraid to go out alone.

648
00:51:33,093 --> 00:51:34,344
Then...

649
00:51:35,596 --> 00:51:39,600
it was only after two or three months,

650
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:42,603
that I began to have contact with others.

651
00:51:44,563 --> 00:51:48,567
The report from Sequedin prison
describes you as calm,

652
00:51:48,609 --> 00:51:52,112
smiling, undemanding and very respectful.

653
00:51:54,198 --> 00:51:55,240
Yes.

654
00:51:56,575 --> 00:52:00,037
Generally speaking,
my imprisonment is very dignified.

655
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,082
A few months after your arrival,

656
00:52:04,583 --> 00:52:06,627
you mentioned some bullying.

657
00:52:15,677 --> 00:52:18,514
A woman who has killed her baby

658
00:52:19,139 --> 00:52:21,600
can't really expect any sympathy.

659
00:52:23,435 --> 00:52:25,270
I shared their horror.

660
00:52:30,484 --> 00:52:32,277
The hearing is adjourned.

661
00:53:54,902 --> 00:53:58,155
- Excuse me, I don't know your name.
- Rama.

662
00:53:59,907 --> 00:54:01,200
Pleased to meet you.

663
00:54:27,267 --> 00:54:28,810
This is my hotel.

664
00:54:31,396 --> 00:54:33,357
Mine is a bit further on.

665
00:54:35,025 --> 00:54:37,194
- See you tomorrow.
- Yes.

666
00:54:37,945 --> 00:54:41,073
I would have liked us
to eat together tonight,

667
00:54:41,114 --> 00:54:44,868
but it's a little late
and I need to sleep.

668
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:45,994
Of course.

669
00:54:46,578 --> 00:54:49,373
We could have lunch tomorrow
if you want.

670
00:54:49,414 --> 00:54:51,375
OK. With pleasure.

671
00:54:52,292 --> 00:54:53,585
See you tomorrow.

672
00:54:53,627 --> 00:54:55,087
Good evening.

673
00:55:29,037 --> 00:55:31,707
- Hello, Jean-Claude.
- Hi, Rama.

674
00:55:31,748 --> 00:55:34,751
Sorry, I didn't have time
to call you back earlier.

675
00:55:34,793 --> 00:55:36,336
Don't worry, it's OK.

676
00:55:36,670 --> 00:55:39,548
How is the trial? What is she like?

677
00:55:40,299 --> 00:55:42,176
She sounds fascinating.

678
00:55:42,593 --> 00:55:46,054
The press says she talks
in a very sophisticated French.

679
00:55:46,096 --> 00:55:49,266
She talks like an educated woman,
that's all.

680
00:55:49,308 --> 00:55:51,393
That's true, you're right.

681
00:55:52,311 --> 00:55:55,272
So, it went really well this morning.

682
00:55:55,314 --> 00:55:57,816
Everyone is raving about your project.

683
00:55:58,192 --> 00:56:00,861
They're just not sure about the title.

684
00:56:00,903 --> 00:56:03,614
They think "Medea Castaway"
isn't very evocative.

685
00:56:03,655 --> 00:56:06,241
Not everyone knows the story of Medea.

686
00:56:06,283 --> 00:56:09,244
They think it should refer to the trial.

687
00:56:09,286 --> 00:56:12,122
I told them it was a working title.

688
00:56:12,956 --> 00:56:16,168
But doesn't everyone know
the story of Medea?

689
00:56:18,253 --> 00:56:19,338
Well, OK.

690
00:56:19,838 --> 00:56:22,549
I'm not at all worried, you go for it.

691
00:56:22,883 --> 00:56:26,136
I'll read it when you're ready.
I just wanted to give you the news

692
00:56:26,178 --> 00:56:29,890
and to tell you we're thrilled
with the sales of your last book.

693
00:56:29,932 --> 00:56:32,976
We received the figures,
it's very impressive.

694
00:56:33,018 --> 00:56:35,062
We were well received by the press.

695
00:56:37,022 --> 00:56:38,857
That's great. Wonderful.

696
00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:42,194
Come see me when you get back.

697
00:56:42,611 --> 00:56:43,987
We'll have lunch.

698
00:56:44,029 --> 00:56:47,115
With pleasure. Thank you for the update.

699
00:56:47,157 --> 00:56:48,534
Well, see you soon.

700
00:56:49,284 --> 00:56:51,203
- See you soon.
- Goodbye.

701
00:57:11,265 --> 00:57:13,267
He didn't introduce me to anyone.

702
00:57:14,101 --> 00:57:17,396
Luc lunched with his wife once a week,
I had no say in it.

703
00:57:18,146 --> 00:57:21,191
I don't know what he told her about me,
he wouldn't say.

704
00:57:22,734 --> 00:57:24,945
I didn't exist when she was around.

705
00:57:25,863 --> 00:57:29,199
He said they were just friends
but I didn't know if it was true.

706
00:57:30,075 --> 00:57:32,202
I wasn't invited
to his daughter's wedding,

707
00:57:32,244 --> 00:57:34,371
but he did ask me to cook the meal.

708
00:57:34,413 --> 00:57:38,292
When the party began at the studio,
Luc booked me into a hotel.

709
00:57:39,084 --> 00:57:41,420
He slipped me out through the back door.

710
00:57:41,461 --> 00:57:43,422
She was a wonderful mother,

711
00:57:43,463 --> 00:57:46,133
the way she took care of Lili...

712
00:57:46,175 --> 00:57:48,260
She massaged her every day.

713
00:57:50,387 --> 00:57:53,974
Lili was loved by both of us.

714
00:57:57,144 --> 00:58:02,024
Laurence said earlier, that you were
reluctant for her to move in with you.

715
00:58:02,065 --> 00:58:03,525
Do you agree?

716
00:58:06,862 --> 00:58:10,324
How would you describe
your relationship with your mother?

717
00:58:11,491 --> 00:58:13,994
When I was young,
my mother was often absent.

718
00:58:14,453 --> 00:58:17,706
She worked hard, she was always tired.

719
00:58:18,749 --> 00:58:21,919
Even if she had high expectations of me,

720
00:58:24,671 --> 00:58:27,549
- there was always a distance between us.
- Meaning?

721
00:58:28,467 --> 00:58:30,427
What do you mean by "distance"?

722
00:58:31,803 --> 00:58:33,305
I don't know.

723
00:58:35,432 --> 00:58:37,309
We don't have much in common.

724
00:58:37,851 --> 00:58:39,978
We're not interested in the same things.

725
00:58:40,812 --> 00:58:42,272
We are very different.

726
01:00:37,262 --> 01:00:38,889
Stand up, Ms. Coly.

727
01:00:42,893 --> 01:00:44,436
Ms. Coly,

728
01:00:44,478 --> 01:00:47,272
you often refer
to the extreme loneliness

729
01:00:47,314 --> 01:00:49,566
of your situation before Elise's birth.

730
01:00:50,526 --> 01:00:52,069
How did you spend your days?

731
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:55,489
You no longer went to classes,
what did you do?

732
01:00:56,823 --> 01:01:00,077
I had never felt so low
as the year before Lili's birth.

733
01:01:02,287 --> 01:01:04,164
I was becoming very depressed.

734
01:01:06,250 --> 01:01:09,628
I spent hours walking in the woods.

735
01:01:11,463 --> 01:01:15,092
I liked walking in the woods,
nobody bothered me there.

736
01:01:16,009 --> 01:01:18,720
In the studio,
the silence was different.

737
01:01:19,763 --> 01:01:21,390
I was afraid to be alone there.

738
01:01:21,431 --> 01:01:23,058
What were you afraid of?

739
01:01:24,893 --> 01:01:26,979
The atmosphere was becoming hostile.

740
01:01:28,564 --> 01:01:31,692
For months,
I couldn't get out of bed in the morning.

741
01:01:32,526 --> 01:01:35,988
I couldn't lift my head up,
I suffered from headaches.

742
01:01:42,411 --> 01:01:44,079
And from blurred vision.

743
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,210
I heard strange noises
like echoes in the walls.

744
01:01:51,587 --> 01:01:54,173
My feet were throbbing, I couldn't walk.

745
01:01:55,757 --> 01:01:59,094
When I talked to Luc about it,
he didn't want to know,

746
01:01:59,511 --> 01:02:00,846
he didn't listen to me.

747
01:02:01,513 --> 01:02:04,141
He was obsessed with his sick brother,
he ignored me.

748
01:02:04,183 --> 01:02:06,435
Did you consult a doctor?

749
01:02:07,269 --> 01:02:11,064
I saw a physiotherapist
and an osteopath, but that didn't help.

750
01:02:12,566 --> 01:02:15,527
Sorcery was the only logical conclusion.

751
01:02:16,653 --> 01:02:18,822
I consulted various

752
01:02:19,615 --> 01:02:23,952
clairvoyants by telephone,
everything they said made sense.

753
01:02:25,287 --> 01:02:26,914
So I trusted them.

754
01:02:27,372 --> 01:02:29,666
Yet the investigation found

755
01:02:29,708 --> 01:02:33,754
that none of the clairvoyants
you supposedly consulted remembers you.

756
01:02:34,713 --> 01:02:36,965
The officers found no trace

757
01:02:37,216 --> 01:02:39,009
of any financial transactions.

758
01:02:39,051 --> 01:02:43,180
Neither do your telephone records
show any trace of the calls.

759
01:02:43,222 --> 01:02:45,140
But I did call them.

760
01:02:45,182 --> 01:02:47,476
I'm surprised they don't remember me.

761
01:02:47,518 --> 01:02:50,687
I called one every day at 7 a.m.
Her name is Patricia.

762
01:02:51,605 --> 01:02:54,274
Patricia Antonia testified.

763
01:02:55,067 --> 01:02:56,735
She doesn't remember you.

764
01:03:00,697 --> 01:03:02,950
I don't know why she says that.

765
01:03:04,451 --> 01:03:05,869
I told her everything.

766
01:03:07,246 --> 01:03:09,248
I felt she understood me.

767
01:03:13,085 --> 01:03:15,087
When I told her about my dream

768
01:03:16,129 --> 01:03:19,299
in which giant butterflies
invaded the studio, she got it.

769
01:03:20,259 --> 01:03:22,177
She said people wanted to hurt me.

770
01:03:22,219 --> 01:03:24,680
How is there no proof?

771
01:03:24,721 --> 01:03:26,765
Not a single telephone record.

772
01:03:28,392 --> 01:03:29,560
I don't know.

773
01:03:30,727 --> 01:03:35,107
You say your problems began
one year before Elise was born.

774
01:03:35,148 --> 01:03:38,694
Roughly the time Elise was conceived,
is that correct?

775
01:03:39,111 --> 01:03:41,822
Yes, perhaps. That might be so.

776
01:03:42,406 --> 01:03:43,574
I don't remember the dates.

777
01:03:43,615 --> 01:03:48,120
Did you deliberately conceal
your pregnancy?

778
01:03:49,454 --> 01:03:52,499
I acted as if I wasn't pregnant,
I didn't try to conceal it.

779
01:03:53,041 --> 01:03:56,461
When you fell pregnant,
did you consult a doctor?

780
01:03:56,503 --> 01:03:58,964
I didn't see a doctor,
I didn't tell anyone.

781
01:04:00,340 --> 01:04:02,176
Tell us about the birth.

782
01:04:03,635 --> 01:04:05,387
Lili was born at the studio, I was alone.

783
01:04:05,429 --> 01:04:07,014
Why didn't you go to hospital?

784
01:04:07,055 --> 01:04:09,183
I don't know, I was in a black hole.

785
01:04:10,225 --> 01:04:11,768
I didn't go out.

786
01:04:12,603 --> 01:04:14,271
I didn't see anyone.

787
01:04:15,147 --> 01:04:16,940
I was afraid, I wanted to protect Lili.

788
01:04:16,982 --> 01:04:18,734
Protect her from what?

789
01:04:18,775 --> 01:04:20,235
From malicious intent.

790
01:04:24,281 --> 01:04:28,493
What was your frame of mind
just before the birth?

791
01:04:35,501 --> 01:04:36,919
I was worried.

792
01:04:40,214 --> 01:04:41,882
I was scared of not succeeding.

793
01:04:41,924 --> 01:04:44,009
Had you prepared for the birth?

794
01:04:48,514 --> 01:04:49,640
Yes.

795
01:04:51,725 --> 01:04:54,019
I think I prepared for it at some point.

796
01:04:59,608 --> 01:05:01,944
I researched how to do it.

797
01:05:03,362 --> 01:05:07,699
I asked my mom, without telling her why,
how to care for a newborn.

798
01:05:16,458 --> 01:05:18,168
Lili was born during the night.

799
01:05:19,086 --> 01:05:21,129
On August 9, 2014, at 4:44 a.m.

800
01:05:21,171 --> 01:05:22,798
Did you feel alone?

801
01:05:31,682 --> 01:05:33,684
When I had the first contractions,

802
01:05:35,018 --> 01:05:36,687
I could feel she was coming.

803
01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:39,648
I was agitated but...

804
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,442
it was a special moment for me.

805
01:05:44,444 --> 01:05:46,613
When she was born, I was in awe.

806
01:05:48,824 --> 01:05:50,659
I was entranced by that tiny creature.

807
01:05:50,701 --> 01:05:54,288
Didn't you worry that this secret birth
might go wrong?

808
01:05:55,581 --> 01:05:57,958
Lili didn't seem to be in trouble.

809
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,002
She barely cried.

810
01:06:01,086 --> 01:06:04,548
There was this incredible serenity
about her.

811
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,426
When you felt the first contractions,

812
01:06:07,467 --> 01:06:10,012
why didn't you inform Luc Dumontet?

813
01:06:10,053 --> 01:06:11,471
Luc was in Auvergne.

814
01:06:11,847 --> 01:06:13,307
Yet he'd promised to be with me.

815
01:06:13,348 --> 01:06:15,934
- Did you tell him the date?
- Yes.

816
01:06:16,226 --> 01:06:17,978
Yet in your statement

817
01:06:18,729 --> 01:06:21,398
you said you weren't sure
of the date of conception.

818
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,901
I knew when my daughter was conceived.

819
01:06:25,819 --> 01:06:28,322
Luc promised
he'd be back in time for the birth.

820
01:06:28,363 --> 01:06:30,449
When Lili was born,

821
01:06:31,033 --> 01:06:34,161
you didn't call Mr. Dumontet
to tell him to come.

822
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:37,831
I didn't think it was necessary.

823
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,793
I wanted that moment for myself.

824
01:06:41,835 --> 01:06:46,340
What did you tell him when he came back
and saw you with Lili?

825
01:06:51,678 --> 01:06:52,971
Luc arrived,

826
01:06:55,015 --> 01:06:56,934
he saw me holding a baby.

827
01:06:59,561 --> 01:07:02,105
He came over and looked at the child.

828
01:07:08,403 --> 01:07:09,655
He seemed

829
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:11,573
appalled,

830
01:07:12,115 --> 01:07:13,283
speechless.

831
01:07:15,702 --> 01:07:17,704
When he finally spoke, he said,

832
01:07:17,746 --> 01:07:19,414
"Are you sure she's mine?"

833
01:07:21,041 --> 01:07:23,293
I said to him, "Don't worry,

834
01:07:24,878 --> 01:07:26,213
"she's mine."

835
01:07:28,841 --> 01:07:32,594
I was upset he questioned his paternity
so I said she was mine.

836
01:07:35,556 --> 01:07:39,101
I was in a state of beatitude
and his words were so vulgar,

837
01:07:39,393 --> 01:07:41,854
I found it deeply insulting.

838
01:07:41,895 --> 01:07:45,148
What did you tell him about the birth?

839
01:07:45,607 --> 01:07:47,985
That I'd given birth
at Les Bluets clinic.

840
01:07:48,026 --> 01:07:49,695
You told him

841
01:07:49,736 --> 01:07:51,864
that you had registered Lili's birth.

842
01:07:52,281 --> 01:07:54,408
Why didn't you do so?

843
01:07:54,449 --> 01:07:56,493
I didn't register her

844
01:07:57,536 --> 01:07:59,496
because I gave birth at home,

845
01:08:00,747 --> 01:08:02,583
because I never left the studio,

846
01:08:02,624 --> 01:08:04,710
and because it didn't even occur to me.

847
01:08:06,670 --> 01:08:09,798
Luc asked me if I'd registered her,
I don't know why I lied.

848
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,217
What was your life with Elise like?

849
01:08:16,305 --> 01:08:18,055
At first, I didn't take her out.

850
01:08:18,599 --> 01:08:20,642
My days were structured around her.

851
01:08:20,934 --> 01:08:23,312
She was calm, she barely cried.

852
01:08:25,022 --> 01:08:27,316
My routine was shaped by Lili's needs.

853
01:08:27,357 --> 01:08:29,151
- Did you breastfeed her?
- Yes.

854
01:08:29,984 --> 01:08:32,112
When did you take her out of the studio?

855
01:08:34,198 --> 01:08:37,242
I didn't take her out
for at least six months.

856
01:08:38,868 --> 01:08:41,412
Luc was a bit more present at that time,

857
01:08:41,455 --> 01:08:43,749
as soon as Lili could hold her head up,

858
01:08:43,790 --> 01:08:45,000
he began to take her out.

859
01:08:45,042 --> 01:08:47,836
But you,
nobody ever saw you with the baby.

860
01:08:48,127 --> 01:08:50,631
Nobody saw me pregnant or with the baby.

861
01:08:50,923 --> 01:08:52,674
I barely left the studio.

862
01:08:53,591 --> 01:08:56,720
Did you buy any baby equipment?

863
01:08:56,761 --> 01:08:57,970
Not much.

864
01:08:58,013 --> 01:09:00,682
A few child care items,

865
01:09:00,724 --> 01:09:03,310
a bouncy chair, baby clothes.

866
01:09:05,938 --> 01:09:08,148
Keeping her birth a secret,

867
01:09:08,189 --> 01:09:11,484
was that a decision
you took with Luc Dumontet?

868
01:09:11,527 --> 01:09:13,904
I don't remember it that way.

869
01:09:13,946 --> 01:09:16,490
- Why didn't he tell anyone?
- I don't know.

870
01:09:16,532 --> 01:09:20,410
Early on, you told him that
your mother would take Lili to Senegal.

871
01:09:20,452 --> 01:09:21,828
I said it as he was worried.

872
01:09:21,870 --> 01:09:23,997
You told him, "She's mine."

873
01:09:24,747 --> 01:09:27,167
Did you decide Lili's future all alone?

874
01:09:27,209 --> 01:09:29,627
The plan to send her to Senegal?

875
01:09:29,670 --> 01:09:32,798
I said that because
Luc didn't want a child at the studio.

876
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,008
- Was Lili ever sick?
- No.

877
01:09:35,050 --> 01:09:36,426
Yes, she was.

878
01:09:36,468 --> 01:09:38,053
She had chicken pox.

879
01:09:38,636 --> 01:09:40,471
Did you take her to the doctor?

880
01:09:42,265 --> 01:09:43,392
No.

881
01:09:45,602 --> 01:09:48,063
Does the Prosecuting Attorney
have any questions?

882
01:09:49,231 --> 01:09:52,442
Ms. Coly, you have strung us along
from the start.

883
01:09:53,986 --> 01:09:57,698
You distance yourself
from the questions asked.

884
01:09:57,739 --> 01:10:01,618
You avoid the awkward questions
and you lie to us.

885
01:10:01,660 --> 01:10:03,287
Do you take us for fools?

886
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:06,373
You didn't love Luc Dumontet.

887
01:10:06,415 --> 01:10:10,252
You didn't want a child with him,
you didn't want the pregnancy.

888
01:10:10,294 --> 01:10:13,505
You deliberately concealed
the child's existence.

889
01:10:13,922 --> 01:10:17,050
You told nobody about her,
not even your mother.

890
01:10:17,092 --> 01:10:18,510
The truth...

891
01:10:18,552 --> 01:10:22,222
is that you killed the child
because she got in your way.

892
01:10:22,264 --> 01:10:25,434
That's nonsense.
Can you read my mind or my heart?

893
01:10:25,475 --> 01:10:28,520
You think as I might get a life sentence
I'm going to lie?

894
01:10:28,562 --> 01:10:30,022
What have I got to lose?

895
01:10:30,355 --> 01:10:32,524
Please, ma'am, sorcery?

896
01:10:32,566 --> 01:10:34,193
You are lying to yourself.

897
01:10:34,234 --> 01:10:36,069
Yes, I speak of sorcery.

898
01:10:36,403 --> 01:10:38,405
Why would I torment myself like that?

899
01:10:38,447 --> 01:10:39,948
Killing my daughter

900
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:41,408
ruined my life.

901
01:10:43,076 --> 01:10:44,828
Am I merely being dishonest?

902
01:10:47,331 --> 01:10:49,541
When I speak of sorcery, I'm not lying.

903
01:10:52,461 --> 01:10:55,756
Not even a dead-drunk idiot
would have done what I did.

904
01:10:56,757 --> 01:10:58,634
And they say I'm intelligent.

905
01:10:59,885 --> 01:11:01,678
So why did I do it?

906
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:10,409
Hello?

907
01:14:10,450 --> 01:14:13,829
Hello, this is reception.
A lady is asking for you.

908
01:14:51,617 --> 01:14:53,076
Hello.

909
01:15:16,767 --> 01:15:19,478
Hello, are you ready to order?

910
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,439
Hello, I'll have the carpaccio.

911
01:15:22,481 --> 01:15:24,566
- And you?
- Steak and fries.

912
01:15:24,608 --> 01:15:25,692
OK.

913
01:15:25,734 --> 01:15:27,319
That's a lot.

914
01:15:27,361 --> 01:15:29,446
Why don't you have the fish?

915
01:15:31,031 --> 01:15:32,783
And half a pint, please.

916
01:15:32,824 --> 01:15:35,118
- I'll be right back.
- Thank you.

917
01:15:48,882 --> 01:15:51,260
This must be hard for you.

918
01:15:53,053 --> 01:15:54,847
Well, I trust in God.

919
01:15:56,598 --> 01:15:59,184
Have you seen all the press coverage?

920
01:15:59,226 --> 01:16:01,019
It's incredible.

921
01:16:06,066 --> 01:16:07,985
Laurence should be careful.

922
01:16:08,402 --> 01:16:10,654
She was rude this morning.

923
01:16:11,738 --> 01:16:14,408
I don't understand
why her attorney didn't advise her.

924
01:16:15,993 --> 01:16:18,453
It makes a bad impression.

925
01:16:18,495 --> 01:16:21,957
Education and politesse
are the two most important things.

926
01:16:22,833 --> 01:16:25,085
That's how I raised Laurence.

927
01:16:25,127 --> 01:16:26,962
And it always helped her.

928
01:16:27,462 --> 01:16:30,924
People talk about her appearance
and the way she talks.

929
01:16:32,217 --> 01:16:34,219
That means she was well brought up.

930
01:16:34,261 --> 01:16:36,471
- Here you are.
- Thank you.

931
01:16:48,108 --> 01:16:50,402
- Were you born here?
- Yes.

932
01:16:50,903 --> 01:16:52,738
Are your parents here too?

933
01:16:53,238 --> 01:16:55,407
My father's dead but my mother is here.

934
01:16:56,366 --> 01:16:59,411
- Any brothers or sisters?
- I have two sisters.

935
01:17:07,544 --> 01:17:09,463
How many months pregnant are you?

936
01:17:17,262 --> 01:17:18,597
Four months.

937
01:17:20,265 --> 01:17:22,267
I guessed as soon as I saw you.

938
01:17:22,684 --> 01:17:24,686
I'm very good at that.

939
01:17:31,902 --> 01:17:33,028
Here you are.

940
01:17:34,446 --> 01:17:35,739
Enjoy your meal.

941
01:18:42,681 --> 01:18:45,058
No, I said I was planning
to do a thesis.

942
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,269
I never said I was a PhD student.

943
01:18:47,311 --> 01:18:49,438
That's not entirely true, Ms. Coly.

944
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,649
From the start,
you claimed to be a PhD student.

945
01:18:52,691 --> 01:18:55,694
That's what you told everyone,
the police,

946
01:18:55,736 --> 01:18:57,654
Luc Dumontet, your family.

947
01:18:58,822 --> 01:19:01,283
I attended the classes,
for me, it was the same thing.

948
01:19:01,992 --> 01:19:03,327
Mrs. Jobard,

949
01:19:03,368 --> 01:19:06,246
you stated that Ms. Coly,
didn't complete her degree.

950
01:19:06,288 --> 01:19:09,249
That's right.
She didn't complete the year

951
01:19:09,291 --> 01:19:11,376
because she didn't hand in her work.

952
01:19:11,418 --> 01:19:14,755
She sent me an email
saying that she couldn't do it

953
01:19:14,796 --> 01:19:18,050
as she was in hospital in Senegal,
but I didn't believe that.

954
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:19,927
Ms. Coly?

955
01:19:20,385 --> 01:19:22,304
I don't remember saying that.

956
01:19:22,554 --> 01:19:24,932
What was Ms. Coly like as a student?

957
01:19:24,973 --> 01:19:28,685
What struck me was the ease
and eloquence of her speech

958
01:19:28,727 --> 01:19:31,146
compared to her written work.

959
01:19:31,188 --> 01:19:35,776
She spoke with ease,
but on the page, she wasn't convincing,

960
01:19:35,817 --> 01:19:37,694
as if her thoughts weren't clear.

961
01:19:39,530 --> 01:19:40,781
Ms. Coly,

962
01:19:41,281 --> 01:19:46,161
you claimed to be writing a thesis
on Wittgenstein, the philosopher.

963
01:19:46,912 --> 01:19:48,497
Why Wittgenstein?

964
01:19:49,039 --> 01:19:50,249
I don't know.

965
01:19:52,292 --> 01:19:54,920
Mrs. Jobard,
what do you make of this choice?

966
01:19:54,962 --> 01:19:56,171
She is making it up.

967
01:19:57,297 --> 01:20:01,385
What is curious is that Wittgenstein's
is a philosophy of language,

968
01:20:01,426 --> 01:20:06,265
but I think she is hiding behind
a philosophy that is not about her.

969
01:20:06,306 --> 01:20:09,226
What do you mean by,
"A philosophy that is not about her?"

970
01:20:09,977 --> 01:20:14,606
Isn't it rather odd, an African woman
interested in an Austrian philosopher

971
01:20:14,648 --> 01:20:19,403
from the early 20th century, why not
choose someone closer to her own culture?

972
01:20:24,074 --> 01:20:25,826
Thank you, Mrs. Jobard.

973
01:20:31,748 --> 01:20:35,377
You must remain standing
during the proceedings, ma'am.

974
01:20:42,509 --> 01:20:44,803
The university told the investigators

975
01:20:44,845 --> 01:20:48,223
you obtained a general studies diploma
after two years.

976
01:20:48,765 --> 01:20:52,144
After that,
you enrolled for a bachelor's degree,

977
01:20:52,186 --> 01:20:56,565
but you didn't complete it.
So you only have the general diploma.

978
01:20:57,733 --> 01:20:58,775
If you say so.

979
01:20:59,151 --> 01:21:01,278
I told you I attended the classes.

980
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,072
I thought I had a bachelor's degree.

981
01:21:04,114 --> 01:21:07,534
Surely you knew
you didn't have a bachelor's degree.

982
01:21:07,576 --> 01:21:09,870
You didn't turn up for any of the exams.

983
01:21:23,509 --> 01:21:27,513
I was caught in a web of lies
at that time.

984
01:21:31,892 --> 01:21:33,602
Later on, it collapsed.

985
01:21:39,900 --> 01:21:41,401
Any questions?

986
01:21:47,699 --> 01:21:50,494
Ms. Coly, are you talented?

987
01:21:50,744 --> 01:21:52,162
I don't know.

988
01:21:52,204 --> 01:21:55,123
- As a child, were you a good student?
- Yes.

989
01:21:55,832 --> 01:22:00,462
Were you a perfect little girl,
overidealized in your parents' eyes?

990
01:22:00,504 --> 01:22:02,548
I don't know, you should ask them.

991
01:22:02,589 --> 01:22:06,009
What were your secret ambitions
when you came to France?

992
01:22:07,386 --> 01:22:09,179
I wanted to leave my mark.

993
01:22:09,721 --> 01:22:13,433
I've always been impressed
by the great thinkers

994
01:22:13,892 --> 01:22:16,520
who shed light on the world
through their thoughts.

995
01:22:17,563 --> 01:22:19,690
I dreamed of becoming
a great philosopher.

996
01:22:20,023 --> 01:22:21,817
My ambition was cut short.

997
01:22:22,359 --> 01:22:23,819
Certain things

998
01:22:25,404 --> 01:22:27,281
made me stray from my path.

999
01:22:30,075 --> 01:22:31,577
No further questions.

1000
01:22:37,416 --> 01:22:39,835
Counselor Darcourt, we are listening.

1001
01:22:41,545 --> 01:22:43,005
Ms. Coly,

1002
01:22:44,006 --> 01:22:46,258
you mentioned a web of lies.

1003
01:22:46,967 --> 01:22:48,760
Have you escaped from it now?

1004
01:22:48,802 --> 01:22:50,721
Isn't the death of my daughter enough?

1005
01:22:51,180 --> 01:22:55,309
I consider your reply intolerable,
it is not worthy.

1006
01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:57,853
And it is unacceptable in a courthouse!

1007
01:22:57,895 --> 01:23:00,689
- Sir, I am being frank.
- It is hard to understand you.

1008
01:23:00,731 --> 01:23:03,233
Your persistent ambiguity...

1009
01:23:03,275 --> 01:23:07,112
I'm not being ambiguous.
Some things, we can't be clear about.

1010
01:23:07,154 --> 01:23:08,405
And...

1011
01:23:10,949 --> 01:23:13,452
If I'm lying, I can't know why.

1012
01:23:18,332 --> 01:23:21,627
Mrs. Diatta,
I'd like to ask you a few questions.

1013
01:23:29,051 --> 01:23:30,344
Mrs. Diatta.

1014
01:23:30,594 --> 01:23:35,432
When Laurence was pregnant, you spoke
twice a week, yet she didn't tell you.

1015
01:23:36,391 --> 01:23:38,143
How do you explain that?

1016
01:23:40,145 --> 01:23:41,522
Mrs. Diatta?

1017
01:23:45,150 --> 01:23:47,361
Why do you think she didn't tell you?

1018
01:23:47,903 --> 01:23:51,615
Both during the pregnancy
and after the child was born,

1019
01:23:52,533 --> 01:23:56,954
you never heard any crying or babbling?

1020
01:23:58,455 --> 01:23:59,540
No.

1021
01:24:00,374 --> 01:24:02,042
She didn't tell me.

1022
01:24:02,668 --> 01:24:04,503
I don't understand.

1023
01:24:05,045 --> 01:24:08,173
That void, the void inside her,

1024
01:24:08,215 --> 01:24:10,092
it was made deliberately.

1025
01:24:13,178 --> 01:24:14,972
Before you Westerners,

1026
01:24:15,013 --> 01:24:16,515
I can't explain it.

1027
01:24:16,557 --> 01:24:19,309
Explain what, Mrs. Diatta?

1028
01:24:21,979 --> 01:24:26,233
I came to wonder,
who they wanted to hurt in this case,

1029
01:24:26,859 --> 01:24:28,068
Laurence,

1030
01:24:28,819 --> 01:24:31,196
her father, or me?

1031
01:24:31,947 --> 01:24:33,866
It was all orchestrated.

1032
01:24:34,908 --> 01:24:36,577
I can hear you smiling.

1033
01:24:36,910 --> 01:24:39,538
But it doesn't make me laugh.

1034
01:24:40,372 --> 01:24:42,583
Sorcery was involved, I promise you.

1035
01:24:42,624 --> 01:24:44,334
A curse even.

1036
01:24:44,835 --> 01:24:48,005
Since my daughter left Senegal,
nothing went well for her.

1037
01:24:49,673 --> 01:24:52,885
In my opinion,
nothing else can explain her failure.

1038
01:24:54,136 --> 01:24:56,638
I even have proof of mystical blockages.

1039
01:24:58,098 --> 01:25:01,643
It was no accident that I couldn't
see my daughter for two years.

1040
01:25:02,561 --> 01:25:03,896
How about that?

1041
01:25:04,188 --> 01:25:05,814
How do you explain that?

1042
01:25:17,993 --> 01:25:20,913
Would the bailiff bring in
the investigating judge,

1043
01:25:20,954 --> 01:25:23,415
Mr. Simon Jonquet.

1044
01:25:44,228 --> 01:25:47,940
Sir, you were assigned
to investigate Mrs. Coly's case

1045
01:25:47,981 --> 01:25:51,109
when the Public Prosecutor
brought her before the court.

1046
01:25:51,610 --> 01:25:55,072
You interviewed her
on November 20, 2015.

1047
01:25:55,614 --> 01:25:59,826
How did the issue of sorcery
come up during the interview?

1048
01:26:02,829 --> 01:26:07,459
Before me is a woman who killed her baby
in circumstances that are shocking

1049
01:26:07,501 --> 01:26:09,253
by our standards.

1050
01:26:10,087 --> 01:26:14,258
I tried to ascertain whether
the cultural aspect played a part.

1051
01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:17,928
I wondered if there was something
she couldn't say

1052
01:26:17,970 --> 01:26:20,597
and asked her to draw on her culture
to try to explain.

1053
01:26:21,682 --> 01:26:25,394
Sir, do you not think
that you opened the door to sorcery

1054
01:26:25,435 --> 01:26:27,896
and that Ms. Coly dived in?

1055
01:26:30,107 --> 01:26:33,068
Before me stood a woman
of African origin.

1056
01:26:33,110 --> 01:26:36,530
I tried to understand her
with the available elements.

1057
01:26:36,572 --> 01:26:38,365
As with Female Genital Mutilation,

1058
01:26:38,407 --> 01:26:41,994
we cannot judge without taking
the ethnological aspect into account.

1059
01:26:42,452 --> 01:26:47,416
Sir, the example of FGM
has true cultural value,

1060
01:26:47,457 --> 01:26:49,543
killing one's child has none.

1061
01:26:49,585 --> 01:26:51,295
I will be frank, sir,

1062
01:26:51,336 --> 01:26:55,424
I have here, the interview transcripts.

1063
01:26:56,717 --> 01:27:01,597
P32, file reference 421.
It is 3:52 p.m.

1064
01:27:02,055 --> 01:27:03,932
You ask her a question, I quote,

1065
01:27:03,974 --> 01:27:07,144
"Ms. Coly,
do not be ashamed of your culture,

1066
01:27:07,186 --> 01:27:11,064
"if it might help us
to understand your actions."

1067
01:27:11,106 --> 01:27:15,736
She replies, "I am a Cartesian thinker,
I don't believe in all that."

1068
01:27:27,164 --> 01:27:30,125
Ms. Coly begins to evoke
hallucinatory phenomena

1069
01:27:30,167 --> 01:27:34,004
and says she believes her aunts
may have put a curse on her.

1070
01:27:34,046 --> 01:27:39,426
Do you not think you handed her
an easy defense strategy?

1071
01:27:39,468 --> 01:27:41,345
And possibly even worse,

1072
01:27:41,386 --> 01:27:44,348
that you let her become stuck
with the idea of sorcery?

1073
01:27:44,389 --> 01:27:46,433
I strongly oppose that idea.

1074
01:27:46,475 --> 01:27:49,728
I stuck scrupulously
to the rules of criminal procedure.

1075
01:27:51,647 --> 01:27:55,526
I'd like to read you a few extracts
from a conversation recorded

1076
01:27:55,567 --> 01:28:00,113
at Sequedin prison, between Ms. Coly
and her mother, Mrs. Diatta.

1077
01:28:00,906 --> 01:28:02,199
Ms. Coly says,

1078
01:28:03,033 --> 01:28:06,161
"The investigating judge
is buying into it."

1079
01:28:06,828 --> 01:28:09,039
Mrs. Diatta replies, "What do you mean?"

1080
01:28:09,748 --> 01:28:11,500
Laurence Coly replies,

1081
01:28:12,084 --> 01:28:15,087
"The investigating judge
believes it was sorcery.

1082
01:28:15,504 --> 01:28:18,507
"I'm not your run of the mill
infanticide mother,

1083
01:28:18,549 --> 01:28:20,509
"that bothers them.

1084
01:28:20,551 --> 01:28:22,845
"What's funny is that I killed my child,

1085
01:28:22,886 --> 01:28:25,597
"but not in the way people usually do.

1086
01:28:26,849 --> 01:28:29,017
"Before I get a 30-year sentence,

1087
01:28:29,059 --> 01:28:33,063
"they must know who really killed her."

1088
01:30:39,147 --> 01:30:40,607
Fuck!

1089
01:31:19,605 --> 01:31:21,690
Hello, this is Adrien's phone...

1090
01:31:24,902 --> 01:31:27,029
It's me...

1091
01:34:25,832 --> 01:34:27,125
Ms. Coly,

1092
01:34:27,501 --> 01:34:28,961
stand up.

1093
01:34:35,843 --> 01:34:37,344
Ms. Coly,

1094
01:34:38,804 --> 01:34:42,683
what was your state of mind on that day?

1095
01:34:44,476 --> 01:34:47,312
Why did you decide to take the train

1096
01:34:47,980 --> 01:34:52,401
to travel to Berck-sur-Mer
at that precise moment?

1097
01:34:58,323 --> 01:35:00,409
Why did I take the train then?

1098
01:35:01,869 --> 01:35:04,788
One might be tempted to say,
"She's growing up,

1099
01:35:05,914 --> 01:35:08,917
"it's getting complicated,"
but that's not a reason.

1100
01:35:10,711 --> 01:35:12,254
Why Berck?

1101
01:35:13,088 --> 01:35:14,464
Why the sea?

1102
01:35:15,465 --> 01:35:18,343
Because the tide was high enough
at that time of year.

1103
01:35:19,469 --> 01:35:21,513
The tide was very high that day.

1104
01:35:23,891 --> 01:35:26,852
I had decided to go to Berck
the previous evening.

1105
01:35:29,229 --> 01:35:31,023
I took a train there.

1106
01:35:32,566 --> 01:35:34,526
I boarded a bus.

1107
01:35:35,777 --> 01:35:39,114
I asked a charming lady
which hotel was closest to the sea.

1108
01:35:40,032 --> 01:35:41,658
She told me.

1109
01:35:42,576 --> 01:35:44,244
She was a tourist guide.

1110
01:35:46,622 --> 01:35:48,415
I arrived at the hotel.

1111
01:35:49,541 --> 01:35:51,335
I dropped my things off.

1112
01:35:52,961 --> 01:35:55,047
I think I played with Lili for a while.

1113
01:35:55,756 --> 01:35:57,216
I fed her.

1114
01:35:59,551 --> 01:36:02,429
At around 9 p.m., it was dark enough.

1115
01:36:07,226 --> 01:36:08,936
It was high tide.

1116
01:36:11,230 --> 01:36:13,023
The moon rose before me,

1117
01:36:13,273 --> 01:36:16,193
lighting the path like a spotlight.

1118
01:36:18,070 --> 01:36:21,532
I knew the path from the hotel
led to the beach, so I took it.

1119
01:36:23,951 --> 01:36:26,453
It was pitch black
when I got to the beach.

1120
01:36:29,164 --> 01:36:30,499
I rocked her.

1121
01:36:31,291 --> 01:36:32,793
I breastfed her.

1122
01:36:34,545 --> 01:36:35,838
Lili was content.

1123
01:36:37,297 --> 01:36:39,049
She fell asleep in my arms.

1124
01:36:40,843 --> 01:36:42,678
So I laid her on the beach.

1125
01:36:44,096 --> 01:36:45,305
And...

1126
01:36:46,348 --> 01:36:48,600
as she didn't react or make a noise,

1127
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:50,811
I left.

1128
01:36:54,731 --> 01:36:57,192
I imagined the sea
would carry her body away.

1129
01:37:00,362 --> 01:37:02,239
I went back to the hotel.

1130
01:37:04,575 --> 01:37:06,994
That night, I slept like a log.

1131
01:37:07,828 --> 01:37:09,371
I barely dreamt.

1132
01:37:12,416 --> 01:37:13,959
Ms. Coly,

1133
01:37:15,961 --> 01:37:18,881
when you went down to the beach
that night,

1134
01:37:21,175 --> 01:37:24,428
were you absolutely sure
that the tide was rising?

1135
01:37:25,095 --> 01:37:26,346
Yes.

1136
01:37:27,764 --> 01:37:29,516
I saw the sea coming.

1137
01:37:31,351 --> 01:37:34,897
When you were first
questioned by the police, you said

1138
01:37:34,938 --> 01:37:39,026
that you entered the water,
that the water came up to your knees.

1139
01:37:40,569 --> 01:37:41,570
Later on,

1140
01:37:42,362 --> 01:37:45,824
you said you couldn't remember
going into the water.

1141
01:37:48,493 --> 01:37:49,828
That's true.

1142
01:37:51,205 --> 01:37:52,748
I don't remember.

1143
01:37:58,378 --> 01:38:00,088
Prosecuting Attorney.

1144
01:38:04,134 --> 01:38:05,761
Ma'am,

1145
01:38:05,802 --> 01:38:09,139
your amnesia is very convenient.

1146
01:38:10,182 --> 01:38:13,101
The water up to your knees,
that you say you forgot,

1147
01:38:13,143 --> 01:38:18,065
sheds a much harsher light
on the story you have just told.

1148
01:38:18,815 --> 01:38:22,611
Ms. Coly, you are not
on the stage of some theatre,

1149
01:38:22,653 --> 01:38:25,113
you are in a court of law.

1150
01:38:25,155 --> 01:38:28,283
The moon that lights your path
like a spotlight,

1151
01:38:28,325 --> 01:38:31,119
the sea that will carry away her body...

1152
01:38:32,287 --> 01:38:33,705
The truth is

1153
01:38:33,747 --> 01:38:36,291
if the sea had carried away her body,

1154
01:38:36,708 --> 01:38:38,710
nobody would have known

1155
01:38:38,752 --> 01:38:42,965
that a little girl, called Elise,
had disappeared,

1156
01:38:43,006 --> 01:38:46,385
because nobody knew that Elise existed.

1157
01:38:46,426 --> 01:38:49,847
Everything had been set up
so nobody would know she had died.

1158
01:38:49,888 --> 01:38:54,268
You condemned her to anonymity
from the moment she was born.

1159
01:38:54,309 --> 01:38:57,020
Nobody saw you pregnant.

1160
01:38:57,062 --> 01:38:58,647
You never took her out.

1161
01:38:58,689 --> 01:39:02,568
Lili's existence was a total secret
from beginning to end.

1162
01:39:13,537 --> 01:39:18,083
You have one new message,
received today at 1:19 p.m.

1163
01:39:57,831 --> 01:39:59,791
I didn't see the child.

1164
01:40:01,835 --> 01:40:03,378
What child?

1165
01:40:06,006 --> 01:40:07,925
The child, Lili...

1166
01:40:14,932 --> 01:40:16,558
I didn't see her.

1167
01:40:21,188 --> 01:40:23,524
I didn't even think about her.

1168
01:40:24,900 --> 01:40:27,611
I was obsessed with her, with Laurence.

1169
01:40:28,904 --> 01:40:30,906
You can't stay here.

1170
01:40:32,115 --> 01:40:33,700
Rama, listen...

1171
01:40:34,868 --> 01:40:37,871
this case has nothing to do with you,

1172
01:40:38,664 --> 01:40:40,249
or with us.

1173
01:41:02,563 --> 01:41:04,648
I'm scared I'll be like her.

1174
01:41:05,190 --> 01:41:06,733
Like who?

1175
01:41:11,905 --> 01:41:13,448
Like my mother.

1176
01:41:22,708 --> 01:41:25,252
Your mother is a broken woman.

1177
01:41:28,172 --> 01:41:30,340
She is scarred by her own life.

1178
01:41:31,592 --> 01:41:33,135
That's not you.

1179
01:41:34,052 --> 01:41:35,721
That's not your life.

1180
01:45:02,970 --> 01:45:06,431
Members of the jury, this is the story

1181
01:45:06,473 --> 01:45:08,517
of a phantom woman.

1182
01:45:09,393 --> 01:45:11,311
A woman whom nobody sees.

1183
01:45:11,979 --> 01:45:13,438
Whom nobody knows.

1184
01:45:15,440 --> 01:45:19,361
It's the story of a slow disappearance.

1185
01:45:19,403 --> 01:45:23,615
A tragic descent into hell,
into which a mother led her child.

1186
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,619
This woman committed the worst crime.

1187
01:45:27,661 --> 01:45:29,413
Infanticide.

1188
01:45:30,330 --> 01:45:33,458
She killed her daughter
and she admits it.

1189
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,505
It is unbearable for us,
beyond comprehension.

1190
01:45:39,214 --> 01:45:43,385
A mother who allows herself to kill
the child she's cherished for 15 months.

1191
01:45:45,053 --> 01:45:47,347
It is easier to see her as a monster.

1192
01:45:47,848 --> 01:45:50,475
A monster must be overcome.

1193
01:45:51,393 --> 01:45:55,105
So you open the volumes of Penal Law
and you find her guilty.

1194
01:45:56,523 --> 01:45:58,984
But if you do that, members of the jury,

1195
01:45:59,943 --> 01:46:02,154
you will have handed down a judgement,

1196
01:46:02,404 --> 01:46:04,865
but you won't have delivered justice.

1197
01:46:05,908 --> 01:46:08,827
You will have answered
only the easiest question.

1198
01:46:09,453 --> 01:46:13,999
Not the one that, as jury members,
you should be asking yourselves.

1199
01:46:15,375 --> 01:46:18,003
If you can't ask yourself this question,

1200
01:46:18,462 --> 01:46:20,297
you will stay on the beach,

1201
01:46:20,631 --> 01:46:22,966
staggered by the horror of the crime.

1202
01:46:24,676 --> 01:46:25,844
Why?

1203
01:46:27,429 --> 01:46:30,724
What made Laurence Coly
kill her daughter

1204
01:46:30,766 --> 01:46:33,519
whom she had loved
and taken care of so well?

1205
01:46:34,478 --> 01:46:36,813
Why didn't she kill her at birth?

1206
01:46:38,315 --> 01:46:41,527
Why did Elise die?

1207
01:46:43,487 --> 01:46:45,072
Elise died

1208
01:46:45,697 --> 01:46:47,449
because her mother is mad.

1209
01:46:48,450 --> 01:46:51,870
And in her madness,
she believed she was protecting her.

1210
01:46:54,790 --> 01:46:58,460
Consider the two extremes of her journey,
if you may.

1211
01:46:59,211 --> 01:47:01,255
Consider this young lady,

1212
01:47:01,296 --> 01:47:04,466
full of ambitions and desires,
arriving in Paris,

1213
01:47:04,967 --> 01:47:06,593
and ask yourself this question,

1214
01:47:07,553 --> 01:47:10,597
how did she become that isolated,

1215
01:47:10,639 --> 01:47:14,434
invisible woman,
hiding in her partner's studio?

1216
01:47:16,186 --> 01:47:18,480
When she moved in with Luc Dumontet,

1217
01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:21,483
Laurence Coly had no financial resources,

1218
01:47:21,859 --> 01:47:24,945
she no longer had a bank account
nor social security cover.

1219
01:47:25,237 --> 01:47:27,447
She wasn't enrolled at the university.

1220
01:47:28,490 --> 01:47:30,617
She started to hear voices.

1221
01:47:31,368 --> 01:47:34,663
She experienced hallucinations,
terrifying dreams,

1222
01:47:34,705 --> 01:47:37,749
strange signs
that she struggled to decipher.

1223
01:47:39,418 --> 01:47:41,837
Other than a few phone calls
with her mother,

1224
01:47:41,879 --> 01:47:44,381
she had no more contact
with the outside world.

1225
01:47:45,591 --> 01:47:48,969
Her loneliness was so palpable

1226
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:51,388
that she could almost touch it.

1227
01:47:53,307 --> 01:47:56,393
That was when she found out
that she was pregnant

1228
01:47:56,435 --> 01:47:58,687
and would give birth to her daughter.

1229
01:48:01,064 --> 01:48:05,903
In actual fact, Laurence Coly
didn't hide her pregnancy or the birth,

1230
01:48:06,737 --> 01:48:08,488
she hid herself.

1231
01:48:09,239 --> 01:48:11,074
She couldn't allow herself to be seen,

1232
01:48:11,575 --> 01:48:12,910
she was too afraid.

1233
01:48:15,454 --> 01:48:17,497
So, sorcery...

1234
01:48:18,916 --> 01:48:22,211
Sorcery...
a young attorney, even a rookie,

1235
01:48:22,252 --> 01:48:25,881
would destroy a defense strategy
based on sorcery.

1236
01:48:27,090 --> 01:48:29,927
If I mention it now,
it is only to remind you

1237
01:48:29,968 --> 01:48:32,888
of the conclusions
of the psychiatric evaluation.

1238
01:48:33,847 --> 01:48:38,602
Sorcery is just the manifestation
of Laurence Coly's hallucinations.

1239
01:48:39,645 --> 01:48:41,855
This woman needs medical care

1240
01:48:41,897 --> 01:48:44,107
and in prison, she won't receive it.

1241
01:48:44,858 --> 01:48:47,110
Condemning her to a lengthy sentence

1242
01:48:47,152 --> 01:48:49,988
is, strictly speaking,
condemning her to madness.

1243
01:48:54,451 --> 01:48:58,872
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
I will conclude by mentioning something

1244
01:48:58,914 --> 01:49:01,083
that I found deeply touching.

1245
01:49:02,668 --> 01:49:05,671
Laurence Coly learned how to be a mother
on the internet.

1246
01:49:06,588 --> 01:49:08,966
She tried to do the right thing,

1247
01:49:09,424 --> 01:49:11,009
she tried to fight,

1248
01:49:11,635 --> 01:49:12,970
to keep going,

1249
01:49:13,387 --> 01:49:15,055
but she lost.

1250
01:49:16,014 --> 01:49:17,933
There was nobody to help her.

1251
01:49:18,559 --> 01:49:20,394
Nobody could understand.

1252
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:24,022
And we still don't understand
Laurence Coly.

1253
01:49:25,524 --> 01:49:29,403
Some would have you believe
she's a liar, arrogant,

1254
01:49:29,820 --> 01:49:33,031
a manipulator, in short, a monster.

1255
01:49:34,116 --> 01:49:35,659
But this very morning,

1256
01:49:36,368 --> 01:49:38,328
Laurence told me about a dream,

1257
01:49:38,370 --> 01:49:40,914
in which Elise was with her in prison.

1258
01:49:41,915 --> 01:49:44,168
When I opened the door of her cell,

1259
01:49:44,835 --> 01:49:47,880
Elise ran to hide
under my attorney's gown.

1260
01:49:49,464 --> 01:49:52,593
Laurence knows that her daughter
will always be with her,

1261
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,262
she is inside her.

1262
01:49:56,555 --> 01:49:58,974
What I'm telling you is not poetry,

1263
01:49:59,016 --> 01:50:00,559
it is science.

1264
01:50:01,476 --> 01:50:03,604
We know that during pregnancy,

1265
01:50:03,645 --> 01:50:07,816
the mother's cells and DNA
migrate to the fetus.

1266
01:50:08,650 --> 01:50:11,987
It is less known
that the exchange works both ways.

1267
01:50:12,613 --> 01:50:16,575
The child's cells also migrate
towards the mother's organs.

1268
01:50:16,867 --> 01:50:18,660
They lodge themselves in her body,

1269
01:50:18,994 --> 01:50:21,580
from her brain to her toes.

1270
01:50:22,581 --> 01:50:24,374
Even after birth,

1271
01:50:24,666 --> 01:50:27,544
even if the pregnancy
is not carried to term,

1272
01:50:27,586 --> 01:50:29,296
those cells live on,

1273
01:50:29,338 --> 01:50:31,798
sometimes throughout a woman's life.

1274
01:50:33,634 --> 01:50:36,887
A mother and her child
are thus intertwined

1275
01:50:37,304 --> 01:50:40,599
with one another,
in an inextricable manner.

1276
01:50:41,225 --> 01:50:43,852
It's inevitable, it's biology.

1277
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Do you know what scientists
call these cells?

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Chimeric cells.

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Like the Chimera, the mythical monster.

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A hybrid creature
composed of different animal parts.

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A lion's head, a goat's body,

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a snake's tail.

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So,

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members of the jury,
I have come to believe that

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we women,

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we are all chimeras.

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We carry within us,
the traces of our mothers

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and of our daughters,

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who in turn, will carry ours.

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It is a never-ending chain.

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In a way, us women, we are all monsters.

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01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,984
But we are terribly human monsters.

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01:52:28,498 --> 01:52:29,791
Thank you.

1294
01:52:31,793 --> 01:52:33,170
Sorry.

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So tired.

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Subtitles: Katie Henfrey

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