1 00:00:10,380 --> 00:00:11,940 There's so many dead. 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,120 They are not moving on. 3 00:00:16,260 --> 00:00:19,120 I'm afraid that it's going to kill my mom. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,200 In the middle of the night, I hear my bedroom door opening and then slam shut. 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,140 I think the living might be waking up and seeing these two men. 6 00:00:31,580 --> 00:00:34,640 He tracked him down and slashed his throat. 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Well, that's creepy. 8 00:00:36,140 --> 00:00:37,300 They're waiting on you. 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,520 That's scary. 10 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:46,380 Their energy is terrible, terrible. 11 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:51,260 Oh, the dark is getting darker. 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,100 My name is Amy Allen. 13 00:00:53,780 --> 00:00:55,060 I see dead people. 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,840 There is a skin locker here. 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,260 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:59,540 --> 00:01:00,960 And they speak to me. 17 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:03,440 He wants to collect the women. 18 00:01:03,700 --> 00:01:06,680 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,360 They're blocking the life out of these people. 20 00:01:11,230 --> 00:01:12,470 I rely on my partner. 21 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:15,950 I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 22 00:01:16,330 --> 00:01:18,030 This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. 23 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:22,010 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 24 00:01:22,290 --> 00:01:26,850 It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate 25 00:01:26,850 --> 00:01:27,850 during an investigation. 26 00:01:28,110 --> 00:01:29,370 Until the very end. 27 00:01:29,830 --> 00:01:30,830 Is that what I think it is? 28 00:01:30,970 --> 00:01:34,930 Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. I told you he was trying to 29 00:01:34,930 --> 00:01:35,930 kill me. 30 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:40,550 We're time to get out. You have a dead person inside you. 31 00:01:53,290 --> 00:01:56,730 I'm in San Jose, California, right in the middle of Silicon Valley. 32 00:01:57,430 --> 00:02:00,910 I got a call from a guy named Chad. Now, he sounded desperate. 33 00:02:01,510 --> 00:02:04,550 Says his house is haunted and he and his partner want out. 34 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:07,910 Only problem, his mom refuses to budge. 35 00:02:08,130 --> 00:02:12,790 My mom turned 73 next month. She already had health problems. Like, I can't just 36 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:17,150 leave the house and then have her be here and stuck with this hot mess. 37 00:02:17,790 --> 00:02:20,590 They seem like good people and I'm hoping Amy and I can help them out. 38 00:02:28,970 --> 00:02:30,850 This is not a good situation. 39 00:02:32,570 --> 00:02:35,730 There's just so many dead people. 40 00:02:38,690 --> 00:02:43,830 They are not moving on. And that's the weird thing. It's like they're right 41 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:44,830 here. 42 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:49,570 That's really strange to me. 43 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:58,130 So Chad, I'm glad I'm here. 44 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:00,420 Driving through the neighborhood, it's beautiful here. 45 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,640 But when we spoke on the phone, it sounded like you were going through 46 00:03:04,780 --> 00:03:07,400 What's going on? We constantly feel like we're under attack. 47 00:03:07,740 --> 00:03:12,420 We have so much paranormal activity going on here on the home that I'm 48 00:03:12,420 --> 00:03:14,200 that it's going to kill my mom. 49 00:03:15,140 --> 00:03:16,740 It's that bad, huh? Yeah. 50 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,840 She's already had a heart attack here. 51 00:03:20,380 --> 00:03:27,340 She came home from work midday and came in and said that she didn't 52 00:03:27,340 --> 00:03:28,089 feel well. 53 00:03:28,090 --> 00:03:31,930 So I grabbed her purse and I said, we're going to the hospital. Three doctors 54 00:03:31,930 --> 00:03:36,350 had said if I would have waited 20 minutes, she would have been dead. Okay, 55 00:03:36,370 --> 00:03:40,270 how's she doing now? She's doing well, but she's starting to get affected by 56 00:03:40,270 --> 00:03:41,330 energies in the house. 57 00:03:41,810 --> 00:03:42,830 Okay, it's interesting. 58 00:03:43,470 --> 00:03:45,690 Let's start with basics. Who's living in the house? 59 00:03:46,010 --> 00:03:49,190 So this is my partner, Joseph. 60 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:51,830 Okay. My mother, Linda, and of course me. 61 00:03:52,130 --> 00:03:53,390 How long have you lived here? 62 00:03:54,090 --> 00:03:58,310 Joseph and I moved here a few years ago, and my mom bought the home 21 years 63 00:03:58,310 --> 00:04:01,950 ago. Was there activity here when you guys arrived? 64 00:04:02,230 --> 00:04:04,870 Shortly after we moved in, things began to happen. 65 00:04:05,170 --> 00:04:07,750 And any idea why the activity started after you moved in? 66 00:04:08,010 --> 00:04:12,670 Well, I've had ability since I was eight years old, so spirits often come to 67 00:04:12,670 --> 00:04:17,029 visit and talk to me and that sort of thing. Okay, so you were sensitive. 68 00:04:17,310 --> 00:04:20,529 Right, and Joseph also has this ability. 69 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,200 So, Chad, do me a favor and give me a list of what you guys are going through 70 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,760 here. So we're hearing voices. 71 00:04:27,060 --> 00:04:29,600 Okay. We're having mood changes and illnesses. 72 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:33,200 We're seeing apparitions and shadow figures. 73 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,780 And now it's getting to be physically violent. 74 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,560 You mentioned illnesses. 75 00:04:38,980 --> 00:04:42,200 You already told me about your mom's heart attack. Is there something else? 76 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,120 We feel like our immune systems are being worn down. Okay. It's like we have 77 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,740 extreme nausea. 78 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:53,240 A sore throat, but it never materializes into a flu or a cold. It just kind of 79 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,420 lingers. Have you seen a doctor? 80 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,480 I have. And? I have a clean bill of health. 81 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,220 Now, you mentioned mood swings. What are we talking about as far as mood swings? 82 00:05:00,460 --> 00:05:03,780 Getting into fights more, and it's not like us at all. 83 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:10,760 All of a sudden, deep sadness, depression, very, very high anxiety, and 84 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:11,760 feeling of doom. 85 00:05:11,780 --> 00:05:14,060 Why don't you guys just get the hell out of here? 86 00:05:14,380 --> 00:05:15,540 Joseph and I want to go. 87 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:18,130 This was my mom's forever home. 88 00:05:18,370 --> 00:05:22,030 She's not going to be scared out of her home, and I don't want to just pack up 89 00:05:22,030 --> 00:05:25,530 and leave her here without figuring out what's going on. 90 00:05:25,790 --> 00:05:26,950 So I feel trapped. 91 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:34,230 You know, I'm just seeing the dead just standing, like, and there's so many. 92 00:05:37,030 --> 00:05:39,630 Are these just all people that have died here? 93 00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:43,430 It's all different people, death, years. 94 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:45,890 Any idea why they aren't moving on? 95 00:05:46,469 --> 00:05:51,490 There's this film that enveloped them. 96 00:05:51,830 --> 00:05:58,150 It's like gooey. So where they are within all of this, it's always dark. 97 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:59,150 always together. 98 00:05:59,650 --> 00:06:00,650 They're trapped. 99 00:06:00,990 --> 00:06:05,110 And there's all this depression coming from the dead because they can't go 100 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:06,110 anywhere. 101 00:06:13,170 --> 00:06:15,030 Okay, so Chad, what's going on here? 102 00:06:15,550 --> 00:06:16,790 I'm seeing shadow figures. 103 00:06:17,210 --> 00:06:20,250 Okay, so where are you seeing them? We're seeing them on the staircase here. 104 00:06:20,350 --> 00:06:21,450 We're seeing them in the bedrooms. 105 00:06:22,310 --> 00:06:23,310 They're everywhere. 106 00:06:23,530 --> 00:06:25,350 What size are we talking about? Is it tall? 107 00:06:25,630 --> 00:06:29,610 It's about, you know, any range of 5 '5 to 6 feet tall. 108 00:06:30,250 --> 00:06:34,590 So, Chad, when you see these shadow things, right, these figures, what are 109 00:06:34,590 --> 00:06:35,590 feeling? What kind of energy? 110 00:06:35,650 --> 00:06:39,400 I've got a vibe off of them. some of them, that they feel kind of an 111 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,620 authoritative figure, almost like a soldier or military person. 112 00:06:44,020 --> 00:06:45,660 All right, so we got shadow figures. What else? 113 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:50,440 So one night I heard my door violently banging back and forth, and the door 114 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,220 handle was jiggling back and forth as the door was banging. 115 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:57,760 Like somebody was playing with it? Right, and it went for a good 20 116 00:06:58,100 --> 00:06:59,700 All right, so anything else? 117 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:05,120 I witnessed a woman apparition ascending to the second floor and then stopping 118 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,120 at my mom's bedroom. 119 00:07:06,590 --> 00:07:09,270 I mean, that's something hopefully Amy may be able to answer. 120 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:13,890 Speaking of Amy, if she turned around and said, listen, forget about it. You 121 00:07:13,890 --> 00:07:15,270 guys got to get the hell out of here. 122 00:07:16,050 --> 00:07:20,150 I want to go. I got to convince my mom that she's got to go. If it's unsafe 123 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:22,550 and it's unfixable, I mean, there's no other option. 124 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:23,870 Okay. 125 00:07:25,210 --> 00:07:27,370 I quickly saw a dead woman. 126 00:07:27,730 --> 00:07:28,790 She looks recent. 127 00:07:29,350 --> 00:07:33,210 And I saw her, like, trying to push a cat off of the wall. 128 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:39,330 She does not like animals. 129 00:07:40,530 --> 00:07:43,110 Okay. She thinks that they're dirty. 130 00:07:43,370 --> 00:07:44,430 Can you describe her? 131 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:48,750 A little bit shorter than me. She's on the thinner side. 132 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:52,890 She's probably 60. 133 00:07:54,350 --> 00:08:01,290 The living here do have experiences with her. I would think they would 134 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:03,550 see her as she is. 135 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:09,540 She's perplexed because she doesn't get why are they here and I'm telling them 136 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:12,820 to leave and get out and they're not. 137 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,920 Like nobody's listening to her. 138 00:08:15,220 --> 00:08:17,320 I think she is moving things about. 139 00:08:19,780 --> 00:08:22,240 Like with the doors in the room. 140 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:28,780 I think her energy for the living would be very overwhelming. 141 00:08:29,870 --> 00:08:30,910 So stressed. 142 00:08:31,410 --> 00:08:34,549 She's very high strung, very OCD. 143 00:08:35,770 --> 00:08:39,250 What about the living? What kind of long -term effects would all this 144 00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:40,870 potentially have on the living? 145 00:08:41,110 --> 00:08:45,410 Stress is no good. I mean, that could get you, you know, high blood pressure, 146 00:08:45,570 --> 00:08:50,290 heart issues. You know, they're not sleeping well. I think they'd be in 147 00:08:50,290 --> 00:08:51,290 danger. 148 00:08:58,660 --> 00:09:02,000 So, Joseph, I was talking to your partner, Chad. He believes the house is 149 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,780 haunted and you guys are under attack. 150 00:09:04,540 --> 00:09:06,180 You agree with all that? I agree. 151 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,220 We do feel like we're under attack. 152 00:09:08,580 --> 00:09:13,020 I tell Chad it's like an energy bubble. You feel a certain way inside the house 153 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:18,020 and things can be depressing and dark and it affects the relationship between 154 00:09:18,020 --> 00:09:21,420 the three of us in the house. And then you leave the bubble or, you know, I go 155 00:09:21,420 --> 00:09:25,140 grocery shopping, go on a walk, go to the park, and things are much better. 156 00:09:25,780 --> 00:09:28,960 So... With all that being said, tell me about your experiences. 157 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,020 I was watching TV and my dog started barking. 158 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,820 And so I walked to the front door and there was a shadow person at the front 159 00:09:39,820 --> 00:09:41,420 door on the other side of the screen. 160 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,880 So what happened when you saw it? Did it stay or disappear? 161 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,540 What did it do? I just shut the door on it and locked it and said, you know, you 162 00:09:48,540 --> 00:09:49,540 can't come in. 163 00:09:49,690 --> 00:09:51,150 Have you seen anything else like that? 164 00:09:51,410 --> 00:09:56,090 Yeah, several times I've woken up to a negative feeling in the bedroom and 165 00:09:56,090 --> 00:09:59,950 there's a dark shadow figure standing there at the foot of my bed. 166 00:10:00,950 --> 00:10:03,010 Was it just looking at you? Just leering at me. 167 00:10:03,230 --> 00:10:04,990 Did it just disappear or kind of fade away? 168 00:10:05,210 --> 00:10:06,189 It went away. 169 00:10:06,190 --> 00:10:07,870 That's a lot so far. Anything else? 170 00:10:08,210 --> 00:10:12,950 I've actually woken up to a figure on my chest that's kind of dark and hazy and 171 00:10:12,950 --> 00:10:14,810 putting a lot of pressure on my chest. 172 00:10:15,510 --> 00:10:17,190 Okay. And you're sure this wasn't a dream? 173 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:21,380 Not a dream. Those are scary because you feel like you're dying. 174 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Okay. 175 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,320 These two dead men come here. They're both former military. 176 00:10:27,740 --> 00:10:29,820 Both of them died within the last 20 years. 177 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,260 One killed himself. 178 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,340 I guess one was killed in action. 179 00:10:33,740 --> 00:10:35,520 Do you know if they have any interaction with the living? 180 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:41,520 I think the living in these rooms might be waking up and seeing these two men 181 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,920 standing there. They see them and get scared. 182 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Their energy is... 183 00:10:46,750 --> 00:10:49,170 Mm, terrible, terrible. 184 00:10:50,030 --> 00:10:54,850 Like, you want to talk about, like, pain and suffering, like, these guys need to 185 00:10:54,850 --> 00:10:55,850 get moved on. 186 00:10:56,930 --> 00:11:00,910 Not good for the living to be in an environment like that, especially if 187 00:11:00,910 --> 00:11:05,150 run towards that kind of empathic, sensitive type. 188 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:13,190 The oppression that this environment causes creates this despair and does 189 00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:14,550 people to kill themselves. 190 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,320 Linda, I was talking to your son Chad and his partner Joseph. 191 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,060 They're concerned about the paranormal activity that's going on in the house, 192 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,120 and they think it's pretty dangerous. 193 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,140 Do you feel the same way as they do? 194 00:11:47,420 --> 00:11:54,420 I haven't experienced it like they have, so I don't feel that it's dangerous to 195 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:57,900 me. Okay. But you've had experiences? 196 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Well, I have experiences, but I can't explain if they're paranormal or not. 197 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,720 So, Linda, what experiences have you had that you really can't explain? 198 00:12:09,020 --> 00:12:14,120 Well, I hear thumping or bumping noises, but when I turn around, there's nothing 199 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,120 there. 200 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,500 Do you have any pets? 201 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,300 I have a cat, and he's not there. 202 00:12:20,020 --> 00:12:21,780 Okay, is there anything else you can tell me about? 203 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,380 Well, in the middle of the night, I hear my bedroom door opening and then slam 204 00:12:26,380 --> 00:12:28,060 shut. Now, is it closed at night? 205 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,900 Yes, when I go to bed, I close it and make sure that it's tight. 206 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Well, that's a little odd. Yeah. 207 00:12:34,990 --> 00:12:35,990 Is there anything else? 208 00:12:36,130 --> 00:12:40,070 Well, I noticed that three of us in the house feel drained. 209 00:12:40,510 --> 00:12:43,850 Chad told me that you did have a heart attack a few years back. Now, do you 210 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:45,950 think that's contributing to your feeling drained? 211 00:12:46,630 --> 00:12:48,230 That's been healed. 212 00:12:48,590 --> 00:12:51,410 I've gone to the doctors, and I'm fine. 213 00:12:52,370 --> 00:12:56,630 Chad had talked to me about he wanted to move, and him and Joseph wanted to live 214 00:12:56,630 --> 00:12:59,910 someplace else. If they did that, would you feel comfortable? 215 00:13:00,250 --> 00:13:02,410 Well, I think I would, but... 216 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,820 I would like to know what's here first. 217 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,620 He firmly believes that WCF could kill you. Oh, my gosh. 218 00:13:14,380 --> 00:13:19,400 There are so many dead, and it's all different people, and it's all different 219 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,400 times. 220 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:30,040 I'm thinking, like, the experiences here would be pretty intense because 221 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,420 there is... 222 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:37,620 you know all of these dead people and and all of these living people and 223 00:13:37,620 --> 00:13:44,380 they're like basically you know mingling so what kind of 224 00:13:44,380 --> 00:13:50,680 interactions are happening they're able to you know make sounds you know i think 225 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:53,680 like living would hear them see them 226 00:14:03,630 --> 00:14:06,750 So you're Leaza and you're Jonas, right? Yeah. Mom, son? 227 00:14:06,950 --> 00:14:10,710 Yes. I understand you two guys were neighbors of Chad and Joseph. 228 00:14:10,990 --> 00:14:11,829 Yeah. Correct. 229 00:14:11,830 --> 00:14:14,390 Okay. Now, how long did you live here? About six years. 230 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:17,870 Weird question. Did you have any paranormal experiences? 231 00:14:18,690 --> 00:14:22,290 Absolutely. What were some of the experiences you had when you lived here? 232 00:14:22,290 --> 00:14:25,290 had a tormenting spirit in our home that was tormenting my son. 233 00:14:26,430 --> 00:14:30,270 What was going on with you? I hear three knocks on my bedroom door. So I open 234 00:14:30,270 --> 00:14:31,470 the door and there's no one there. 235 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Something wasn't letting me be able to sleep at night. 236 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Okay, and how old were you again at that time? I was 16. 237 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:39,120 Okay. So anything else? 238 00:14:39,860 --> 00:14:43,900 Well, there was one night when I came out, and as I was going to our 239 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:46,380 house, I saw a shadow figure underneath the light post. 240 00:14:46,780 --> 00:14:52,380 As I got closer, it just went to the left and dissipated. 241 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,040 Okay, interesting. 242 00:14:54,460 --> 00:14:56,820 You guys are obviously close with Chad and Joseph. 243 00:14:57,260 --> 00:14:58,260 You worried about them? 244 00:14:58,860 --> 00:14:59,860 I am. 245 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,920 And I'm worried about their mom. Okay. You feel the same way? I feel the same 246 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,980 exact way. Okay. 247 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,680 I feel bad. 248 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:15,580 A lot of the depression, too, is emanating from the dead here. And we're 249 00:15:15,580 --> 00:15:17,940 about like 100 dead people. 250 00:15:18,860 --> 00:15:22,040 They're not being allowed to move on. 251 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:28,300 It's like that goo is like over this area and not letting anybody. 252 00:15:29,610 --> 00:15:33,890 You know, if they're alive, function correctly, they're just depressed. 253 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:37,990 Weighted down, can't function. 254 00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:47,610 There's like something about this environment that creates, for those who 255 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:49,890 in it, this kind of oppressive darkness. 256 00:15:53,510 --> 00:15:55,110 There's a real problem. 257 00:15:55,940 --> 00:16:01,680 more than likely in this whole development with death. So I wouldn't be 258 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,120 surprised at all if it's not just affecting this location. 259 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,100 But here, specifically, it's all darkness. 260 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,400 So that's not good. 261 00:16:26,860 --> 00:16:30,680 I made my usual calls when I got to town and just heard back from a local 262 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,300 genealogist. Says Chad's land used to be owned by one of the town's founding 263 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:38,780 fathers. Turns out this guy lived a charmed life. 264 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,880 But the second he set foot on the property, everything went to hell. 265 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,580 Well, Corey, I appreciate you helping me out with this. 266 00:16:51,220 --> 00:16:52,440 What do we know about this guy? 267 00:16:53,020 --> 00:16:59,160 His name was Jose Joaquin Bernal. Okay. And he came to California in 1776 with 268 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,540 his family, and he was just 14 years old. Okay. And he and his family helped 269 00:17:03,540 --> 00:17:04,479 build San Jose. 270 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,240 When he became old enough, he joined the Spanish army, and he was stationed in 271 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,920 San Jose to help guard the town. 272 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,400 Right, so now he's a young kid, he's in the army. Mm -hmm. What happens after 273 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,560 that? When he turned 23, he got married to a lady named Maria. Okay. And they 274 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,980 would go on to have 16 children. 275 00:17:20,930 --> 00:17:21,930 16 kids. 276 00:17:21,990 --> 00:17:22,889 Yep. Wow. 277 00:17:22,890 --> 00:17:26,010 In 1826, he retired from the military. 278 00:17:26,310 --> 00:17:31,270 Okay. And he moved his family to a 10 ,000 -acre plot of land in South San 279 00:17:31,330 --> 00:17:33,430 He named it Rancho Santa Teresa. 280 00:17:34,210 --> 00:17:36,770 Okay, and this is the same land my clients live on. That's right. 281 00:17:37,030 --> 00:17:40,530 Corey, you mentioned on the phone that things turned bad for this guy. When did 282 00:17:40,530 --> 00:17:45,190 that happen? In 1828, he lost both a granddaughter and a daughter in 283 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:46,410 complications from childbirth. 284 00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:50,500 And the daughter was only 25 years old. And then just a couple of years later, 285 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,320 the same thing happened. He lost another grandchild and daughter in childbirth. 286 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,520 Now, how old was she? 287 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:56,640 She was 27. 288 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,039 That's it. 289 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,100 How did it go after that? 290 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,800 There was a second wave of death. 291 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:07,540 In 1834, his granddaughter died. And then the following year, he lost both a 292 00:18:07,540 --> 00:18:10,100 and a daughter. And I have their burial records. 293 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,700 So if my numbers are right, he'd lost seven family members in seven years. 294 00:18:15,860 --> 00:18:17,740 That's right. I mean, that had to take a toll on this guy. 295 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:24,180 All that loss was too much for him. By 1837, he was on his deathbed, and he 296 00:18:24,180 --> 00:18:28,540 that year on the property at the age of 74, and I have his burial record. 297 00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:32,280 Please tell me it got better for Maria once Jose was gone. 298 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,920 I wish that were the case. 299 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:40,160 Between 1840 and 1845, Maria suffered a wave of death of her own. 300 00:18:40,570 --> 00:18:45,090 She lost three of her daughters, all in their 30s. What happens with Maria? 301 00:18:45,570 --> 00:18:50,710 Maria lived to the age of 90. Okay. And she died in 1858, probably on the 302 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:52,610 property. Here's her burial record. 303 00:18:52,970 --> 00:18:58,470 So all these deaths, all this tragedy that this family suffered didn't happen 304 00:18:58,470 --> 00:19:01,250 until they got onto the property where my clients live now. 305 00:19:01,490 --> 00:19:02,289 That's right. 306 00:19:02,290 --> 00:19:04,450 You're a genealogist. Have you seen a lot of this? 307 00:19:04,670 --> 00:19:08,030 Not at this level. It seemed like they suffered more loss than a lot of the 308 00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:09,030 families I've researched. 309 00:19:10,670 --> 00:19:15,990 I encountered a tiny little old woman. She said she was about 67. 310 00:19:17,130 --> 00:19:22,750 She is definitely in like some kind of mourning outfit. She's dressed in all 311 00:19:22,750 --> 00:19:26,010 black. She said this location belongs to her. 312 00:19:26,290 --> 00:19:29,650 She owned a large amount of property. 313 00:19:32,030 --> 00:19:35,750 She just said that she always has and always will hate people. 314 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:41,290 So I just got a call from a forensic investigator. He tells me there was a 315 00:19:41,290 --> 00:19:44,190 race that ended in murder just down the street from Chad's house. 316 00:19:45,010 --> 00:19:48,250 This story sounds pretty wild and should definitely help my case. 317 00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:57,190 Jeremiah, thanks for helping me out with this case. 318 00:19:57,830 --> 00:20:01,430 What do we know about the victim? Well, the victim's name is Edward Pyle. He's 319 00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:04,590 28 years old, recently married. He's a rancher. 320 00:20:04,830 --> 00:20:09,850 Okay. And so one day in May of 1848, he went out and completely vanished. 321 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:13,890 Does anybody know where he was last seen? Last time he was seen was at a 322 00:20:13,890 --> 00:20:16,390 neighboring ranch owned by the Valencia family. 323 00:20:16,610 --> 00:20:18,710 So is this where he was in a horse race? 324 00:20:18,970 --> 00:20:22,870 Right, with a boy named Antonio. Antonio is 17 years old. 325 00:20:23,450 --> 00:20:26,710 During this race, Pyle's horse's leg breaks. 326 00:20:27,150 --> 00:20:32,330 Pyle grabs the saddle off the horse and heads back to his own property. 327 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:33,950 Is that when he vanishes? 328 00:20:34,780 --> 00:20:37,440 Exactly. I assume his family goes looking for him. 329 00:20:37,660 --> 00:20:42,400 Yeah. They get the sheriff, local authorities involved, and head 330 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,399 the Valencia ranch. 331 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,520 When confronted, Antonio Valencia immediately confessed. 332 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,160 All right, so this kid confessed. 333 00:20:49,420 --> 00:20:55,400 What's he say? Antonio was freaked out that they were going to think Antonio 334 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,940 responsible for crippling that horse's leg. 335 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,680 He tracked him down and flashed his throat. 336 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:03,760 Do we know where he kills him? 337 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,660 The most northeastern part of the ranch. 338 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,180 Do we know where on this map it might be? Right over here. 339 00:21:09,620 --> 00:21:12,500 Okay, so that's pretty close to my client's property. 340 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:18,580 He ends up burying him in that area, and every single day after that, he goes to 341 00:21:18,580 --> 00:21:19,580 visit the site. 342 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:24,380 For what? He could not get what he did to Edward out of his mind. He was 343 00:21:24,380 --> 00:21:31,080 described to be essentially haunted by visions of Edward's throat being 344 00:21:31,180 --> 00:21:33,340 Edward gasping for his last breath. 345 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,240 and dying right in front of him. All right, so this kid confesses, he's 346 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,940 collared. Does he have a trial? 347 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,800 It's a quick trial. The judge orders him to death by hanging. 348 00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:47,740 They built a scaffold, center of town, threw a rope over it, tied it around his 349 00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:48,980 neck, and hung him. 350 00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:59,860 It's weird, that feeling of oppression, feeling weighted down 351 00:21:59,860 --> 00:22:01,980 by this location. 352 00:22:04,750 --> 00:22:09,950 There was like this immediate image of like a male. It was just a really quick 353 00:22:09,950 --> 00:22:13,350 flash of like a guy dying from hanging. 354 00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:16,490 This really dark despair. 355 00:22:17,030 --> 00:22:21,430 It's a direct result of this environment. 356 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,200 For more information about the show, and if you need us to investigate 357 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,740 unexplained activity in your home, please visit TravelChannel .com slash 358 00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:38,459 Dead Files. 359 00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:41,960 Click on Help Me Dead Files to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 360 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:55,060 So far, I have a client worried paranormal activity is going to kill his 361 00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:57,460 a property with a long history of premature deaths. 362 00:22:58,170 --> 00:22:59,850 But I want to see if there's anything else. 363 00:23:02,170 --> 00:23:05,330 Searching through old records, I find the previous owner of Chad's property. 364 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:08,310 Turns out she died right inside his house. 365 00:23:11,050 --> 00:23:14,830 I'm on my way to meet a local historian who's worked on a lot of cases with me. 366 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:19,870 He says back in the 80s, a lot of this woman's neighbors also died way too 367 00:23:19,870 --> 00:23:20,870 young. 368 00:23:27,490 --> 00:23:29,270 Dave, thanks for helping me out once again. 369 00:23:29,770 --> 00:23:32,710 So this woman that died in my client's house, what do we know about her? 370 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:34,210 Her name is Mary Smith. 371 00:23:34,450 --> 00:23:35,670 She was from Oakland. 372 00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:37,550 Here's her high school picture. 373 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:39,250 Okay. 374 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:44,610 She worked as a secretary at IBM and later became a paralegal. Her and her 375 00:23:44,610 --> 00:23:47,350 husband bought your client's house in 1984. 376 00:23:47,790 --> 00:23:51,270 Okay. But shortly after she moved into the house, she got breast cancer. 377 00:23:51,530 --> 00:23:53,530 So I take it the cancer was terminal. 378 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,580 Unfortunately, it was. She died quickly at age 49 in 1986. 379 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,200 She was young, 49. 380 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,560 Wow. 381 00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:04,040 This woman's life was cut really short. 382 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Way too short. 383 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,740 I'm seeing that dead woman who doesn't like animals again. 384 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,920 Do you know if she has some sort of connection to the property itself? 385 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,560 She lived here in this unit. This is an area she is somewhat acknowledging. 386 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,000 is not right, and it really bothers her. 387 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,600 She was just talking about people dying here. 388 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000 There's been incidents that to her seemed abnormal. 389 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:45,100 She's very agitated, and then this woman doesn't like this area. 390 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Now, Dave, you mentioned on the phone that a lot of people died young in my 391 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,459 client's neighborhood. 392 00:24:52,460 --> 00:24:53,419 Why was that? 393 00:24:53,420 --> 00:24:58,680 Well, in the 1980s, your client's neighborhood was ground zero for a toxic 394 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,740 disaster. Okay, so what happened? The residents were getting suspicious. There 395 00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:10,400 was a lot of birth defects, miscarriages, and strange cases of 396 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,920 cancer. All right, did they ever track down who was responsible for this? 397 00:25:14,380 --> 00:25:19,620 He tested the local drinking water and found that it was contaminated by a 398 00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:22,420 chemical used in making computer chips. 399 00:25:22,860 --> 00:25:24,120 And these people were drinking it? 400 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:26,900 Yeah, bathing in it, washing clothes. 401 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:32,320 He tracked down the source to a leaking tank owned by a computer chip 402 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,600 manufacturing company. 403 00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:38,460 So they were storing toxic chemicals in underground tanks right in this 404 00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:42,100 community. All right, I got to figure out what law suits, no? Right, the 405 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,300 residents lawyered up. 406 00:25:43,630 --> 00:25:47,090 They claimed that 17 of their children were born with heart defects. 407 00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:53,190 They also said that 60 miscarriages happened in their community, as well as 408 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:54,650 confirmed cancer deaths. 409 00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:56,610 All right, so how'd it go in court? 410 00:25:56,990 --> 00:26:02,210 Well, the case dragged on for five years before it was settled out of court for 411 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:04,070 millions of dollars for the residents. 412 00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:09,450 Now, Dave, we have any idea if this woman, Mary, might have been involved in 413 00:26:09,450 --> 00:26:10,450 that? Was she part of the lawsuit? 414 00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:13,010 We don't know for sure, but it certainly is possible. 415 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:15,910 Same time frame that all this was going on? Right. 416 00:26:16,530 --> 00:26:17,530 That's a shame. 417 00:26:26,510 --> 00:26:30,290 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, but two stood out. 418 00:26:31,070 --> 00:26:33,590 First, the dead woman who doesn't like animals. 419 00:26:34,530 --> 00:26:39,950 She had more of a longer face, thin neck. 420 00:26:40,650 --> 00:26:44,310 Her hair actually covers up her ears. 421 00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:49,710 Next, I described a massive amount of dead people surrounding the house. 422 00:26:51,670 --> 00:26:52,890 They're all shapes. 423 00:26:53,150 --> 00:26:54,310 They're all sizes. 424 00:26:54,510 --> 00:26:56,630 They're all sexes. They're all ages. 425 00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:58,290 How many dead were there? 426 00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:00,690 Looking all the way out, probably about 100. 427 00:27:01,670 --> 00:27:03,510 They're all facing the same direction. 428 00:27:03,850 --> 00:27:08,170 It's almost like if you would just picture a graveyard and then just 429 00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:09,610 stood up from their grave. 430 00:27:13,949 --> 00:27:15,290 Amy, is this what you saw? 431 00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:18,510 Yes, that's what I saw. 432 00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:41,930 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 433 00:27:42,810 --> 00:27:46,770 We're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first 434 00:27:46,770 --> 00:27:49,370 time. So, guys, I want you to meet Amy. 435 00:27:50,150 --> 00:27:54,090 She'll be doing the reveal from another room so that she can focus on your case 436 00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:55,670 and the dead without any distractions. 437 00:27:56,330 --> 00:27:57,930 Amy, meet Chad, who's in the middle. 438 00:27:58,370 --> 00:28:00,610 That's his partner, Joseph, to his left. 439 00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:02,450 And that's his mom, Linda. 440 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:04,390 Chad's in a bind. 441 00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:07,810 The activity in the house is so bad, he doesn't think it's safe for anybody. 442 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:12,220 Problem is, Linda here is not so convinced that it's bad enough to leave. 443 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,620 Chad's hoping you can either show them how to make the house safe or, if need 444 00:28:17,620 --> 00:28:19,140 be, convince Linda to get out. 445 00:28:19,660 --> 00:28:23,460 Unless Amy has some questions for you, she'll describe her walk for us. 446 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,720 The first person I saw inside the house was a dead woman who causes a lot of 447 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,699 problems here. 448 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:35,880 She did go on a lot about how much she hates animals. 449 00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:39,680 Because she feels like they're dirty. 450 00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:40,900 She's dirty. 451 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,940 The first thing I see from this woman is her up on the 452 00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:54,840 stairwell and her showing me her throwing a cat off of the stairwell. 453 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,360 Oh, hell no. 454 00:28:56,740 --> 00:28:58,140 That's happened twice. 455 00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:05,720 We have a 19 -year -old cat that likes to stay up on the 456 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:11,160 banister. But it was like he got knocked off twice to the first floor, and he 457 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,160 was okay. 458 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,420 Chad, you saw an apparition of a woman on the staircase, correct? Right. She 459 00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:22,860 ascending from the first floor landing up and then stopping at my mother's 460 00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:23,819 bedroom door. 461 00:29:23,820 --> 00:29:29,880 Yeah. So I went upstairs, and I went into the first bedroom. 462 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,680 Okay, so that's Linda's bedroom. 463 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,600 She was showing me her trying to move things. 464 00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:36,730 And she messes with the door. 465 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:42,430 When I'm asleep, like two or three in the morning, the door will open and then 466 00:29:42,430 --> 00:29:43,430 bang shut. 467 00:29:45,310 --> 00:29:46,890 Chad, why don't you tell her about your door? 468 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:51,350 One night I was working at my desk and all of a sudden my door went in and out, 469 00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:54,170 like banging, banging, banging, banging. And then the door handle was jiggling 470 00:29:54,170 --> 00:29:55,950 at the same time it was going in and out. 471 00:29:56,350 --> 00:30:00,830 And it was so loud and aggressive that I thought it was Joseph. And so I went up 472 00:30:00,830 --> 00:30:02,630 and opened the door real quick and there was nothing. 473 00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:04,530 Interesting. 474 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:11,000 I think that being around her a lot could drain you, just because she's 475 00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:15,900 This anxiousness could make you guys feel that as well? 476 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,360 Yeah. You can sleep all night, and then you get up in the morning, and you're 477 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,280 yawning, and you're acting like you're ready to go to bed instead of just 478 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,059 getting up. 479 00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:31,320 You just have this overwhelming feeling of complete exhaustion, and then the 480 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,800 anxiety, like, ramps up. 481 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,990 And I say, The bubble within the bubble, because if I'm out, I'm totally fine. I 482 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:39,030 have normal energy. 483 00:30:39,290 --> 00:30:43,090 But if I'm at home, you can just get up and feel like you need a nap in two 484 00:30:43,090 --> 00:30:45,070 hours because you're so exhausted. 485 00:30:46,790 --> 00:30:51,690 This could lead to having high blood pressure, which then could lead to heart 486 00:30:51,690 --> 00:30:52,690 issues. 487 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:58,510 Hello, what happened to mom? So in 2012, she ended up having a heart attack. 488 00:30:59,730 --> 00:31:01,390 And then three heart surgeons. 489 00:31:01,770 --> 00:31:05,070 said if you wouldn't have brought her in, she would have been gone in 20 490 00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:06,070 minutes. 491 00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:11,450 Is it this dead woman that's causing all these issues? 492 00:31:11,790 --> 00:31:12,790 Mm -hmm. Yeah. 493 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:18,170 Any idea who this woman was when she was alive? 494 00:31:18,550 --> 00:31:23,650 My feeling was that she lived here, that she lived in this house at some point. 495 00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:29,990 I believe that she was in her late 50s, early 60s when she 496 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:36,760 died. She felt like there were a lot of unusual deaths 497 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:43,260 in the area and that she felt that the energy here 498 00:31:43,260 --> 00:31:48,620 is what may have caused so many odd deaths. 499 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,900 Amy, it sounds to me like you're describing a woman who died in the 500 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,220 Her name was Mary Smith. She was from Oakland. 501 00:31:58,380 --> 00:32:03,260 She moved in with her husband into the house here in 1984, but she wasn't here 502 00:32:03,260 --> 00:32:05,580 very long before she got diagnosed with terminal cancer. 503 00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:11,200 Now, she refused to stay in the hospital, and she died in the home in 504 00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:17,340 Now, she was only 49 when she died, but there's a lot more to this tragic story. 505 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,940 Around that time, a lot of people in the neighborhood were dying from cancer. 506 00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:25,820 What? There also was an unusual, very high number of miscarriages. 507 00:32:26,250 --> 00:32:28,790 As well as babies born with birth defects. 508 00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:30,090 Oh. 509 00:32:31,470 --> 00:32:35,050 Turns out toxic chemicals were leaking into the water supply. 510 00:32:35,810 --> 00:32:36,810 Right here. 511 00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:39,490 In fact, here's an article on it. 512 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:42,330 Pollution Plague, Silicon Valley. 513 00:32:42,750 --> 00:32:43,750 What the? 514 00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:49,590 Hundreds of your neighbors got together and filed a class action lawsuit against 515 00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:52,190 the tech companies who had poisoned the water supply. 516 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,540 Now, the case dragged on for five years and finally ended up with an out -of 517 00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:02,240 -court settlement for millions of dollars. 518 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,860 Now, we can't prove it, but it makes you wonder if the contaminated water had 519 00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:07,980 something to do with Mary's death. 520 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:11,660 Now, I was only able to track down a yearbook photo of her. 521 00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:16,760 Obviously, she was much older when she died. I mean, is it possible this is the 522 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,760 woman you might have seen? 523 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,800 I had a sketch done of how I saw her. 524 00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:38,430 You guys take a look and why don't you tell me what you think. 525 00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:40,190 Wow. 526 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:48,030 I mean, I see that sketch and I 527 00:33:48,030 --> 00:33:50,890 look at that photo, I can see the resemblance in my police eyes. 528 00:33:51,170 --> 00:33:54,210 Yeah, the older picture looks like the woman that was going up the staircase. 529 00:33:55,930 --> 00:33:57,090 We've got to move her on. 530 00:33:57,690 --> 00:33:59,230 I just want to clear out the bubble. 531 00:34:03,270 --> 00:34:04,890 So... How else did the woke go? 532 00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:10,110 Then I go upstairs and encountered two males. 533 00:34:10,330 --> 00:34:16,949 What they were showing me was them standing, one at the very 534 00:34:16,949 --> 00:34:23,630 base of the bed and one on the side. This is while the living 535 00:34:23,630 --> 00:34:24,850 are sleeping. 536 00:34:25,590 --> 00:34:30,150 What I was able to see was that both of these men were soldiers. 537 00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:35,360 and that they had died within the last 20 years, I'm thinking. 538 00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:42,060 I would think that these two military men would probably be perceived as 539 00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:43,060 people. 540 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,540 Now, Chad, you've seen shadow figures. Tell Amy about the feeling you get from 541 00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:52,540 them. There's some that have that authoritative, like, feeling of like, 542 00:34:52,540 --> 00:34:55,400 know, just they're standing there and it has that same presence that you would 543 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,020 feel of like a military person. 544 00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:58,500 Interesting. 545 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:03,640 There's a lot of sadness and pain with these men. When they're around, I think 546 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,060 that the living would feel their sadness and despair. 547 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:10,360 You okay, Joseph? 548 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,960 I know what she's talking about. Like, I feel, I feel their distress. 549 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:24,680 Like, I can pick up that energy off of things. And when she said that, it was 550 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,800 like she hit the nail on top of the head. 551 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,700 You had mentioned to me a shadow figure in the bedroom? 552 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:37,360 Yes. At the corner of my bed, I see that there's this shadow entity 553 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:43,640 standing there, and the feeling off of it was negative, like sadness and 554 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,740 depression, and I'm going to attack you. 555 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040 Did you get attacked in bed? Did you have a heaviness? Tell me about that. 556 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:55,460 I was asleep, and there's a heaviness on the chest. It's hard to breathe. 557 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,400 And then I'm waking up. 558 00:35:57,670 --> 00:36:02,190 And it's preventing you from moving or saying anything. 559 00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:07,730 Linda, you still think it's safe to live here? 560 00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:08,950 Not for them. 561 00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:13,630 I'm lucky because I don't see what they see. 562 00:36:14,110 --> 00:36:16,230 But obviously I believe them. 563 00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:18,450 Do you think it's safe for them to be here? No. 564 00:36:19,050 --> 00:36:20,190 Oh, okay. 565 00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:21,930 But you think it's okay for you to be here? 566 00:36:22,750 --> 00:36:25,510 Well, no, because then they might come to me if... 567 00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:27,540 Because they leave. 568 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:34,540 The biggest concern I have is what I saw outside of your house. 569 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:41,600 There's this kind of gooey wall, like a membrane. 570 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:48,540 And it doesn't just affect you guys. It kind of covers the entire neighborhood. 571 00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:53,080 The problem with this is that it... 572 00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:56,800 It encompasses a lot of dead people. 573 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:03,780 This is a problem because these dead, many dead, cannot move on because 574 00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:05,340 they are trapped in this goo. 575 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,120 So I would think that the living here would have encounters with these dead 576 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,420 people on occasion, from hearing them to seeing them all over the neighborhood. 577 00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:18,420 Amy, it's funny you say that because I spoke to some former neighbors who had 578 00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:19,420 experiences. 579 00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:23,790 Well, there was one night when I came out and as I was going to our neighbor's 580 00:37:23,790 --> 00:37:26,270 house, I saw a shadow figure underneath the light post. 581 00:37:27,650 --> 00:37:28,650 Interesting. 582 00:37:29,010 --> 00:37:35,990 Now, my problem is that their misery and their despair is affecting the living 583 00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:41,650 here. And it's creating this extreme, oppressive, 584 00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:45,590 draining, dark. 585 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:52,720 No wonder I feel a certain way when I'm at home trapped and you don't know how 586 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:59,260 to move on and you're all crowding my living space. You're going to leave a 587 00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:00,260 certain mark. 588 00:38:00,860 --> 00:38:05,680 And then it tries to stoke up your emotions, whether anger or depression or 589 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,680 sadness. 590 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,820 It's totally encompassing. 591 00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:12,000 I did have a sketch done of what I saw. 592 00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:22,450 Well, that's creepy. 593 00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:24,590 They're waiting on you. 594 00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:26,370 Oh, God. 595 00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:30,190 Oh, God. 596 00:38:33,150 --> 00:38:34,470 That's the whole driveway. 597 00:38:36,330 --> 00:38:37,330 That's scary. 598 00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,010 To think that everyone's out there. 599 00:38:41,490 --> 00:38:42,910 And inside the house. 600 00:38:43,870 --> 00:38:44,930 That's my space. 601 00:39:03,710 --> 00:39:07,690 So guys, not for nothing, but you got hundreds of dead people trapped outside 602 00:39:07,690 --> 00:39:09,970 your front door. It doesn't sound too good. 603 00:39:11,290 --> 00:39:13,210 So now we're going to answer the big question. 604 00:39:13,550 --> 00:39:16,930 Is there anything you can do to stay in your home and be safe? 605 00:39:17,210 --> 00:39:18,610 Or do you need to get the hell out of here? 606 00:39:18,930 --> 00:39:20,190 And that includes you, Linda. 607 00:39:21,530 --> 00:39:23,270 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 608 00:39:27,210 --> 00:39:28,210 Can you stay? 609 00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:30,150 Yes. 610 00:39:30,670 --> 00:39:37,170 Do you really want to stay? I mean, I guess that's, you know, I 611 00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:38,170 wouldn't. 612 00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:45,070 You can keep them out of the house. 613 00:39:45,370 --> 00:39:51,950 And, you know, there's things you can do. But do you really want to just 614 00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:53,410 be inside here? 615 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:59,290 This affects this whole development. 616 00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:02,770 And I don't feel like that's healthy. 617 00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:05,650 Is there a lot for them to do if they wanted to stay? 618 00:40:06,430 --> 00:40:13,250 They could stay, but that would take a huge effort, and it would 619 00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:19,930 involve many different types of sensitives, many different types of 620 00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:25,630 religious individuals, holy people, and it would take many months. 621 00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:29,610 So it would be a huge, huge undertaking. 622 00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:32,730 So you two need to get out of Dodge, obviously. 623 00:40:32,990 --> 00:40:35,190 But you did call us in because of your mom. Right. 624 00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:39,850 What about Linda staying here by herself? It's probably not a good idea, 625 00:40:39,850 --> 00:40:41,570 assume. I don't think this. 626 00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:45,490 And it could get worse. 627 00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:46,990 Okay. 628 00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:51,150 Linda, has tonight changed your mind about things? 629 00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:56,030 Yeah. 630 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:03,240 She said we could stay if we wanted to, but I don't think I want to 631 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,240 with all that. 632 00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:06,140 We better go look for a place. 633 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:15,800 You know, I tell people all the time, listen, houses can be 634 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,800 replaced. 635 00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:18,660 People can't. People can't, yeah. 636 00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:24,770 I feel really bad for Chad, Joseph, and Linda, but in a situation as dangerous 637 00:41:24,770 --> 00:41:27,430 as this, I think it's best they leave their home. 638 00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:33,070 Hopefully, they take my advice, leave all of these dead behind, and get a 639 00:41:33,070 --> 00:41:34,150 start somewhere new. 640 00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:42,550 Hi, Steve and Amy. Thanks so much for coming out to the house and helping us 641 00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:46,770 with what was going on here. Right now, as far as relocation is concerned, we 642 00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:49,130 are looking at other options out of the area. 643 00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:55,070 As far as mom is concerned, she is looking at relocating to a different 644 00:41:55,070 --> 00:41:56,630 the San Francisco Bay region. 645 00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:59,230 So thank you guys for coming out. Thanks again. 646 00:41:59,510 --> 00:42:00,510 Thank you.