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[Fred]
Is Monster Squada cult movie?

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I think a cult movie
is a movie that...

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is appreciated in a way
that people don't
necessarily predict.

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But ultimately
movies are good or bad

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and they're accepted
or they're not,

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but I don't know
What a cult movie is,

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so I sure don't know
if this is one.

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[light dramatic music]

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So, I was at a sleepover party
at a friend of mine's house,

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uh, when I was probably
12 or 13 years old,

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and we watched, uh,
Raising Arizona

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and it's... to this day,

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one of the most
influential films I ever saw.

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It fundamentally changed
what I thought movies could be

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and got me hooked on
the Coen brothers as filmmakers.

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Probably the first movie
that had a huge impact on me

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was King Kong,the original.

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It was the first movie
that sort of, for me,

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created a world within that

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137 frame,

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the whole world was
in that frame

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for an hour and a half
or however long it was.

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And that was--
that was magic to me.

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In my teen years, it was
probably, uh, Enter the Dragon.

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-I told John Saxon of...
-Oh, really?

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...I-- I was so excited
to work with John

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because I saw Enter the Dragon
and it blew my mind.

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I think my favorite movie
growing up was Wizard of Oz

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because it was the only movie
that played annually,

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every year at Thanksgiving.

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So I got to see it ten,
15 times.

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James Bondand-- and Creature
from the Black Lagoon.

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You know,
I would show up first in line,

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sleeping bag, whatever.
Anything with monsters.

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I saw Chuck Russell's The Blob,

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and I left going
"I want to be a director."

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I think my favorite movie of all
time is Back to the Future,

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and it's really the first time

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that I went
to the theater as a kid

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and going "I'm watching,
like, a masterpiece,

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this thing is ripping
my mind apart."

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Well, Exorcistfor one
because I'm Catholic.

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For me, when I was in college,
it was Suspiria.

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It was, like,
"Ever seen this movie?"

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And people would watch it
and their minds would
be fucking blown.

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Halloween,
I would watch with my dad

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on VHS, over and over again.

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It would scare me to death.

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Jawsis my favorite movie
of all time.

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It's, like, I just love
following into that world

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and Monster Squadwas one
of those movies.

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Top five, I would have to say
our Monster Squad...

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...Monster Squad...

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...Monster Squad.

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-We love The Monster Squad.
-We love

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-The Monster Squad.
-We love it.

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One of our all times favorite
movies when we were kids.

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If my four-year-old
could be here,

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he would, he just watched
the movie Saturday.

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He loved it,
absolutely loved it.

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I love it so much,
it changed my life, it just--

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I wanted to be part of that
world, and I feel like I am now,

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and, um, it is an absolute
stone classic.

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[inspirational music]

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[André]
The Monster Squad
is a 1987 film

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about a group of kids

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that have to fight the classic Universal monsters.

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And the squad is really a,
a group of misfits,

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you know, led by Sean,

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with Patrick, and Horace,
and Eugene,

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the cool kid Rudy,
and the little sister, Phoebe.

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And the squad has
to fight Dracula,

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Frankenstein's monster,
the Mummy,

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Gillman and the Wolfman.

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Well, as the lead
inThe Monster Squad,
that experience

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certainly changed my life,
and over the years,

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I became interested
in telling the story

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of how it impacted others.

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[man]
How many here have seen
The Monster Squad?

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-[woman] Yeah!
-[crowd cheers]

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[André]
The films in the '80s
were so special

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because they were a reflection of what was going on in culture.

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And it was
one of the first times

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that kids were really included

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in everything that was going on.

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And I think those really
made a deep impact

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on the kids that were
coming up at that time.

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And now those are the--
those are the creatives
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They inspired and led to so
many other creative outlets.

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An example of that is
a 30 second animation

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-with some bunnies explaining
whatThe Monster Squad is.
-Okay,

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-second way
to kill a vampire--
-Come on, let me in the club.

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-Found it at a garage sale.
-Van Helsing's diary.

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-We got to find the amulet.
-Now can I be in the club?

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-[bunnies scream]
-[mommy grunts]

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-[werewolf growls]
-Wolfman's got nards!

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The amulet!

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-Suck on this.
-Hey, asshole!

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You're not a virgin.

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[bunnies grunt]

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Is she a virgin?

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[growls] Thank you.

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-[yelling]
-[gun fires]

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-[screams]
-Hold us.

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-[hisses]
-[soft screams]

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[fleshy squeak]

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Don't go away!

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Bye!

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I don't know, to sum
that whole movie up.

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-In one s--
-Because it's kind
of been my whole life.

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This is our Rocky Horror.

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Monster Squadis a classic.

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I guess it is kind
of a kid's film.

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It was a gateway drug, so--

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There's no movie
better than this.

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Everybody's seen Freddy,
but not everyone is a member
of The Monster Squad.

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I saw the film
at the premiere in 1987.

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When did I first experience
The Monster Squad?

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That would be opening night

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at the Core Multiplex,
720 show.

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-My entire family went.
-The first time I saw

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Monster Squad,
I was actually in the theater,

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and then it was kind of the
weird thing where I would note,

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then I would talk
to my friends at school

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and be like,
"Yeah, and Monster Squad,"

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and they'd be like,
"I don't know that one."

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I've said this to many,
many times before,

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-I'm going to say it again.
-Okay.

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This is my favorite movie

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to screen
for University students.

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[Mike]
So I meet people
and I tell them,

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"Yeah, I teach film studies
at the University."

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And they say,
"Oh, you must teach

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Citizen Kaneand Casablanca,

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you know, Hitchcock."And I say,

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"No, have you heard
of Monster Squad?"

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How many of you, again,

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have never seen
Monster Squadbefore tonight?

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-[André] Wow.
-How many of you had never heard

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of Monster Squadbefore tonight?

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You are welcome.

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[students laugh]

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On the whole, they--
they get it.

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They understand that if they're
taking this movie too seriously,

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then you're not watching
this movie correctly.

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Where you do get
some interesting push back

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is there are sections
of the film that remain
very politically incorrect.

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[Mike]
I want to talk
about political correctness.

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If we were to remake
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what would we have to change?

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There's some slut shaming,
uh, with the older

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-sister who's--
-You're not a virgin, are you?

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[Mike]
Automatically ineligible
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the world because she's had sex.

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Well, Steve,

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but he doesn't count!

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Doesn't count?

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Fat shaming.

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Oh, man, fat kid farted.
Oh, God!

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-Did not!
-[kids speaks at the same time]

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I think Horace gets called
a faggot at some point.

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What did you say, faggot?
What did you say?

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So, there are-- there are
certain things in there

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that you can feel the room
quiet down a little bit.

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I think if it would
be made today,

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the leader of the squad
would probably be Phoebe,

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that has to convince a bunch
of weird boys to join her.

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-And-- And there would...
-It would be more
multi-ethnic, probably.

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...probably be a funny scene

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to decide
who's going to read the spell.

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The Rudy character could be
like, "I'm out."

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[chuckles]

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They've had really
good experiences.

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They clap and they cheer, and--

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Those are the ones
who understand.

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They come back and they say that
was one of the best ones we did.

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Here's how I know that
their appreciation is genuine.

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The real compliment is,
"I can't wait

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to introduce this
to my friends."

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Because their friends are
as unlikely to have seen
this film

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as they were,
walking into my class.

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[inspirational music]

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[monsters growl]

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[werewolf howls]

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The Monster Squadwas a--
an original script in 1985.

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I was really, really lucky.
I went to UCLA,

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wanted to be a film major.

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They wouldn't take me,

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but I thought
the girls were cute

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and I loved the campus,
so I said,

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"I'll be an English major.

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I can do that."

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And I fell in with this crowd,

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and Shane was one
of those people.

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We were both young, I was 25,
he was 26, something like that.

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[Fred]
He wanted to be an actor.
He was a Theater Arts major.

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He was mostly into reading
Pulp, uh, Fiction.

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I started writing
screenplays and he said,
"What are you doing?"

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I said
"I'm writing screenplays."
And he goes, "Oh,

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was it-- what are y--
how's that?"

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I said, "Well, it's easier
than writing a novel

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because it's shorter."

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So he said, "Well, let me try."

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And I said, "Listen,

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I want to do The Little Rascals

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meet the Universal monsters."

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He goes, "Okay." [chuckles]

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[Shane]
It was ignorance in a way

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that led to, I think,

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the enthusiasm
of that first draft.

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So we broke the story together.

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Eventually we came up
with sort of an outline.

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I don't even think
it was written, I think
it was just in our heads.

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It wasn't applying
a screenwriters template

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or, you know, going off
of a book by Sid Fields.

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It was just, "I'm going
to do this pretty much the way

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I've set out to
and just see what happens,"

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and the experiment was
a very good one for me.

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[loud white noise]

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[Fred]
The seed for the movie,
and I'm ashamed to say it,

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was really spending too much
time in my youth watching TV.

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They would run the Creature
from the Black Lagoon.

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They would run Dracula,
Frankenstein,

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you know, all the old monsters.

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[Fred]
As the Universal
monster rallies went along,

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they got cheaper
and worse and worse.

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And the genius to me was
Abbott and Costello
Meet Frankenstein.

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[Shane]
And what I think we liked
about it the most was that

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Abbott and Costello were funnier
than they'd ever been.

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[suspenseful music]

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[gasps]

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[Fred]
To take those two guys

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and then do
the Universal monsters,

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and play the monster straight,

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even as a kid, I knew something
very special was going on there,

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because the monsters were
actually scarier in that movie

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than they are in the previous,
like, three or four...

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[chuckles]
Universal monster movies.

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So that was kind of our idea,
that was the notion.

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The basis for it was
to create a story

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that had Spielberg elements,
but didn't scrimp on the idea

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that what they're doing
is real and, you know,
he really stakes

243
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a girl in the heart
in The Monster Squad.

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-[suspenseful music]
-[arrows rattle]

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[hisses]

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[growls]

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-[whimpers]
-[Fred] So he wrote
the first draft

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mostly by himself,

249
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I think I may have written
a couple scenes,

250
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while I was shooting
and in post-production
on Night of the Creeps.

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[telephone rings]

252
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-Really?
-[Shane] We got a long draft,

253
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had to cut it down a little bit
for budget and things like that.

254
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And it was, of course,
a thousand pages long

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and I had to cut it down to,

256
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you know... [chuckles]
a 102 or whatever it was.

257
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[Shane] But the first draft, I thought,

258
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was one of the better things I'd
done. It was pure enthusiasm.

259
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[Fred]
And then he went off
and wrote Lethal Weapon

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and sold it immediately.

261
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He sold it so fast
that Lethal Weapon,

262
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I think, came out
before The Monster Squad.

263
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It was a crazy time.
Everything happened very fast.

264
00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,016
I think Fred and Shane
crossed the line.

265
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Personally, I mean, I remember
watching this as a kid.

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Now,
I'm in a dark movie theater,

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I bring my brother Barry,
he's like, "I don't want
to see a kids movie,"

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but my mom forces him
to go with me,

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and I haven't watched it
in a while,

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but, from what I remember,

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it's burned into my brain,

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it begins with a Batman ha--

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webbed hand.

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And then, uh, there's a--

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a vampire eating a possum,

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and there's blood dripping down,

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and then, all of a sudden,
Van Helsing burst in,

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and there're skeletons
ripping out of the floor,

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and I'm 11, and I'm terrified.

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And I look at my brother and,
like, "Maybe we should go."

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And he's like,
"No, we should stay."

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That's what makes
this movie so awesome,

283
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like, that's burned in my brain

284
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almost as a traumatic
experience.

285
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[Adam Green]
And then, back here is...

286
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the edit suite.

287
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Which-- this is basically--
it's my high school bedroom.

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I-- I just, like, saved it.

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Do you remember these? These
were from when we were, like,

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seven, eight years old,

291
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these Universal monsters.

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Instead of storyboarding,
I acted out

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action sequences
with action figures for my DP,

294
00:12:53,860 --> 00:12:55,426
and you'd, like,
put cameras on them and stuff,

295
00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:56,819
and, like, that's how we figure

296
00:12:56,863 --> 00:12:58,212
-stuff out.
-Not a bad way to do it.

297
00:12:58,255 --> 00:13:00,692
Brittany has died a lot.

298
00:13:00,736 --> 00:13:02,825
I was 12 when I saw
Monster Squad.

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So I was one of those kids

300
00:13:05,001 --> 00:13:07,917
and you had
this incredible script

301
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where-- where the kids
actually spoke like kids.

302
00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,705
And there were few movies
that-- that did that back then,

303
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where it didn't feel like adults

304
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writing what they think
kids would sound like.

305
00:13:18,928 --> 00:13:21,626
[André]
In The Monster Squad,
our dialogue and our exchanges

306
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are there because that's how
kids interacted with each other,

307
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and they still do today.

308
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Fred and Shane...

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they were-- they were kids that

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were saying and acting the way
I did in the 1980s.

311
00:13:34,248 --> 00:13:35,858
It sounds like
these writers were like,

312
00:13:35,902 --> 00:13:37,555
you know,
spying on me and my friends

313
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because this is how we talk.
This is how we sound

314
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and this is the kind
of language that we use.

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[André]
They weren't parodies of kids,
and they weren't stupid,

316
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and they--
they weren't dumbed down,

317
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like, they were very smart.

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It's everything. It's the kids,
it's the neighborhood,

319
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it's the creepy guy
in the neighborhood

320
00:13:55,922 --> 00:13:58,185
that everybody thinks
is a bad guy and who turns out

321
00:13:58,228 --> 00:14:00,840
to be the most sympathetic
character who saves the day.

322
00:14:00,883 --> 00:14:02,972
It's all of these
effortless jokes

323
00:14:03,016 --> 00:14:06,280
about growing up
and sexuality and--

324
00:14:06,323 --> 00:14:09,587
w-- without ever losing
the innocence of being kids.

325
00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:11,502
Like,
it's such a good movie, man.

326
00:14:11,546 --> 00:14:16,072
Th-- the characters were
the consistency

327
00:14:16,116 --> 00:14:18,335
throughout the movie.
If you have these characters

328
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that you can
put them in a drama,

329
00:14:20,381 --> 00:14:22,383
you put them in a comedy,
it just so happens

330
00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:24,037
that they happen to be
in a horror movie

331
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or a sci-fi movie
or maybe a mash-up of the two,

332
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if those characters are
compelling in any genre,

333
00:14:29,390 --> 00:14:32,959
you can put them
through anything you want,
and we will care.

334
00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,352
But you could tell
that they sort of had that voice

335
00:14:35,396 --> 00:14:37,224
of the generation
in their minds.

336
00:14:37,267 --> 00:14:38,573
They sort of knew, like,

337
00:14:38,616 --> 00:14:40,618
"These kids are real kids,
you know,

338
00:14:40,662 --> 00:14:41,924
and we're going to take
these real kids

339
00:14:41,968 --> 00:14:43,099
that are maybe
a little too real,

340
00:14:43,143 --> 00:14:44,753
and put them in this, like,

341
00:14:44,796 --> 00:14:45,797
crazy situation."

342
00:14:45,841 --> 00:14:46,973
It's the kind of thing

343
00:14:47,016 --> 00:14:48,670
that Hollywood today dies for,

344
00:14:48,713 --> 00:14:50,585
you know,
this high concept idea.

345
00:14:50,628 --> 00:14:52,326
Anybody who does these things

346
00:14:52,369 --> 00:14:55,546
is-- is operating
partially subconsciously.

347
00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:58,332
But there was a mythic cord,
apparently,

348
00:14:58,375 --> 00:14:59,550
in The Monster Squad,

349
00:15:00,551 --> 00:15:02,466
that we may have tried for,

350
00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:04,468
but didn't realize
would resonate.

351
00:15:04,512 --> 00:15:06,557
[calm inspirational music]

352
00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:12,737
[car engine revving]

353
00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:19,962
[tires screeching]

354
00:15:20,006 --> 00:15:22,965
Taking the monster seriously

355
00:15:23,009 --> 00:15:25,663
applies to our approach
to the whole movie.

356
00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:28,492
I mean, when we were casting,
for instance,

357
00:15:28,536 --> 00:15:33,671
if they had that kind
of John Waters winky,
Rocky Horrorapproach,

358
00:15:33,715 --> 00:15:35,630
I just said, "Nice to meet you."

359
00:15:35,673 --> 00:15:37,675
Duncan Regehr came in

360
00:15:37,719 --> 00:15:40,287
and scared the shit out of us,

361
00:15:40,330 --> 00:15:42,289
and I went,
"Okay, that's the guy."

362
00:15:42,332 --> 00:15:44,813
[Duncan]
I knew that I had to fill
some pretty big shoes.

363
00:15:44,856 --> 00:15:46,858
I mean th-- this character

364
00:15:46,902 --> 00:15:49,296
has been played
by some pretty wonderful actors,

365
00:15:50,253 --> 00:15:53,126
but I wanted it to be

366
00:15:53,169 --> 00:15:58,044
a character that was more
sociopathic in nature.

367
00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:01,830
So, less bestial.

368
00:16:01,873 --> 00:16:06,226
I had the availability
to approach this one

369
00:16:06,269 --> 00:16:07,575
with some psychology to it.

370
00:16:09,490 --> 00:16:12,797
And that was certainly
part of the discussions
that I had with Fred,

371
00:16:12,841 --> 00:16:15,844
who was, at that time, more
into the bestial side of it.

372
00:16:15,887 --> 00:16:18,499
And I said, "We've got
to find this other level

373
00:16:19,413 --> 00:16:22,590
in order for it to work,
in order to take this character

374
00:16:22,633 --> 00:16:25,462
in another direction,
retain the histrionics."

375
00:16:25,506 --> 00:16:27,116
So he is arch,

376
00:16:28,161 --> 00:16:30,598
but he's malevolent.

377
00:16:30,641 --> 00:16:33,209
It was a question
of finding some compromises

378
00:16:33,253 --> 00:16:36,952
and there were certainly
a lot of differences of opinion

379
00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:39,781
about how things should be done.

380
00:16:39,824 --> 00:16:41,913
But those things always work

381
00:16:41,957 --> 00:16:46,570
towards making a better
creative product in the end.

382
00:16:46,614 --> 00:16:47,919
And that's what we did.

383
00:16:47,963 --> 00:16:49,747
We also had Peter Hyams,

384
00:16:49,791 --> 00:16:53,055
who was a, you know,
a veteran and he was definitely

385
00:16:53,099 --> 00:16:55,188
a-- a wonderful guy
to bounce ideas off of,

386
00:16:55,231 --> 00:16:59,061
and it was very, very helpful
to both of us to have him there.

387
00:17:01,455 --> 00:17:03,805
The biggest drama
on The Monster Squad

388
00:17:03,848 --> 00:17:06,416
was that Peter wanted
to fire me the first week.

389
00:17:07,504 --> 00:17:10,203
And the reason was that, uh,

390
00:17:10,246 --> 00:17:13,032
I wasn't shooting the movie

391
00:17:13,075 --> 00:17:15,599
kind of in the way
that he would have shot it.

392
00:17:16,644 --> 00:17:18,515
He taught me
some valuable lessons.

393
00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:22,737
In my head, I see the movie
and it may cut together,

394
00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:25,131
but, if it doesn't,

395
00:17:25,174 --> 00:17:28,308
I'm screwed because I haven't
done enough coverage, A,

396
00:17:28,351 --> 00:17:30,049
and B, and this is
the important thing,

397
00:17:30,092 --> 00:17:32,225
is that
the entire crew understands

398
00:17:32,268 --> 00:17:34,270
what the whole scene is.

399
00:17:34,314 --> 00:17:37,578
And what Peter taught me
was basically directing 101,

400
00:17:37,621 --> 00:17:40,624
which is always start
with a master shot,

401
00:17:40,668 --> 00:17:43,192
so that the crew knows
exactly what's happening

402
00:17:43,236 --> 00:17:45,455
from the beginning of the scene
to the end of the scene.

403
00:17:45,499 --> 00:17:47,457
And once I got the lessons

404
00:17:47,501 --> 00:17:50,112
on week two
and he didn't fire me,

405
00:17:50,156 --> 00:17:53,942
every scene in the movie
I shot a wide master shot

406
00:17:53,985 --> 00:17:56,162
and they're wide
and they're beautiful
and they look good,

407
00:17:56,205 --> 00:17:58,077
but they're all
big wide master shots and,

408
00:17:59,339 --> 00:18:01,906
uh, you know, I think
that set his mind at ease.

409
00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:03,560
Take a drink
for every master shot,

410
00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:05,388
let's-- but let's
make it a drinking game.

411
00:18:06,737 --> 00:18:10,263
Well, everybody always asks us
what our favorite part
of this movie is.

412
00:18:10,306 --> 00:18:14,484
It's the final
action sequence where
we're doing the final battle.

413
00:18:14,528 --> 00:18:18,227
We're on the back lot
of Warner Brothers.

414
00:18:18,271 --> 00:18:21,274
Uh, it felt like we lived
in that town,

415
00:18:21,317 --> 00:18:23,972
it was like, "This is epic,
this is huge.

416
00:18:24,015 --> 00:18:27,062
Like, this is-- this is
probably the biggest thing

417
00:18:27,106 --> 00:18:28,324
I'm ever going to do."

418
00:18:28,368 --> 00:18:29,804
[André]
Even Fred to this day

419
00:18:29,847 --> 00:18:31,762
says the last 20 minutes
of this movie

420
00:18:31,806 --> 00:18:33,068
are his favorite.

421
00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:35,026
Peter left me alone for the--

422
00:18:35,070 --> 00:18:37,072
more than the second half
of the shoot.

423
00:18:37,116 --> 00:18:40,119
The whole town square sequence,
the finale of the movie,

424
00:18:40,162 --> 00:18:41,511
uh, he completely left me alone.

425
00:18:41,555 --> 00:18:42,599
That's my favorite
part of the movie,

426
00:18:42,643 --> 00:18:44,340
not because he wasn't there.

427
00:18:44,384 --> 00:18:47,038
I'm just saying he--
he gave me the keys to the car,

428
00:18:47,082 --> 00:18:49,389
and I drove the car and I think
I drove it pretty well.

429
00:18:51,260 --> 00:18:54,002
The last reel in that movie
is still my favorite thing
I've ever done.

430
00:18:54,045 --> 00:18:56,265
...eyes real big
because you're scared
that you're going to lose him.

431
00:18:56,309 --> 00:18:58,006
-No, no, no, you're sad,
you're sad...
-No.

432
00:18:58,049 --> 00:19:00,356
...No, no. No--
and he's trying to go,

433
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,010
no, no-- and you can say that.

434
00:19:02,053 --> 00:19:03,881
-No, no-- Be more sad...
-No, no. [soft scream]

435
00:19:03,925 --> 00:19:05,666
-...be more sad--
-No, no, no,

436
00:19:05,709 --> 00:19:07,146
-no.
-And then he goes.

437
00:19:08,495 --> 00:19:10,627
And then you're real sad
because he's gone.

438
00:19:12,412 --> 00:19:13,761
But you still look at him b--
up at him

439
00:19:13,804 --> 00:19:15,110
because you see him going in.

440
00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:17,591
[mimicking cry] No...

441
00:19:20,202 --> 00:19:22,987
-Good.
-It was really
just a lot of fun for me.

442
00:19:23,031 --> 00:19:27,078
And because I brought
my four-year-old there,

443
00:19:27,122 --> 00:19:29,037
there were scenes where,
you know,

444
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,736
where Wolfman beat the shit
out of me in one scene,

445
00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:35,565
and to see
little Jesse look at me

446
00:19:35,609 --> 00:19:36,958
with eyes like, "Oh, my God,

447
00:19:37,001 --> 00:19:38,525
they're doing this
to my father."

448
00:19:38,568 --> 00:19:40,353
I think we went outside,

449
00:19:40,396 --> 00:19:42,746
and Wolfman's parts started
to come back together again,

450
00:19:42,790 --> 00:19:44,444
and when I had my little kid

451
00:19:44,487 --> 00:19:46,228
there looking at that

452
00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:50,972
and seeing Wolfman's arm come
and attach to his body.

453
00:19:51,015 --> 00:19:54,584
He looked at me and he said,
"Daddy, how do they do that?"

454
00:19:54,628 --> 00:19:59,850
Most of the monsters were
very cognizant of being human.

455
00:19:59,894 --> 00:20:03,463
However,
I was petrified of Duncan.

456
00:20:05,552 --> 00:20:09,643
Because Duncan was just a man,
and he had red eyeballs

457
00:20:09,686 --> 00:20:11,253
because he wore
red contact lenses,

458
00:20:11,297 --> 00:20:13,516
and fangs,
and that wasn't fucking normal.

459
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,865
And poor Ashley Bank,

460
00:20:14,909 --> 00:20:17,128
when Dracula lifted her up,

461
00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:19,087
I don't think anyone bothered
to tell her that he
was going to go,

462
00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:22,221
"You bitch," and, like...
[softly growls]

463
00:20:22,264 --> 00:20:25,006
A lot of the movie was prepared

464
00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:28,357
with those kids not knowing
what was going to happen next,

465
00:20:28,401 --> 00:20:32,143
so that they had a better
sense of the reality it--
of it as being reality.

466
00:20:32,187 --> 00:20:35,843
And Fred pulled me over and he
said, "All right, you're going
to go on that wooden plank,

467
00:20:35,886 --> 00:20:37,714
then, you know,
it's going to rise up,

468
00:20:37,758 --> 00:20:39,586
and he's going to say
something to you,

469
00:20:39,629 --> 00:20:42,066
and at some point in the scene,
you're going to scream."

470
00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:45,853
And being the actor that I am,
I said, "When?

471
00:20:45,896 --> 00:20:49,291
When am I supposed to scream?
I follow directions,
when am I supposed to do it?"

472
00:20:49,335 --> 00:20:52,294
And Fred looked at me
and he said, "You'll know."

473
00:20:52,338 --> 00:20:54,601
[Duncan]
You know, you get
wrapped up into the--

474
00:20:54,644 --> 00:20:56,603
the whole magic of, um,

475
00:20:56,646 --> 00:21:00,215
the lights and the atmosphere,

476
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:01,869
the smoke,

477
00:21:01,912 --> 00:21:04,088
the coolness of the evening.

478
00:21:04,132 --> 00:21:04,959
And...

479
00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:08,963
it sweeps you up
and takes you with it really.

480
00:21:09,006 --> 00:21:13,228
And that-- th-- that feeds you
and forces it further.

481
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,882
Um...

482
00:21:14,925 --> 00:21:16,536
And she was there for it,

483
00:21:16,579 --> 00:21:18,668
you know, I didn't have
a lot of work to do

484
00:21:18,712 --> 00:21:20,409
because she was
actually terrified.

485
00:21:22,455 --> 00:21:25,153
His eyes were closed
and his mouth was shut.

486
00:21:25,196 --> 00:21:26,763
And they said action,

487
00:21:26,807 --> 00:21:28,939
and he opened his eyes,

488
00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:31,594
he opened his mouth,
and he hissed at me.

489
00:21:31,638 --> 00:21:33,335
-[screaming]
-[hisses]

490
00:21:33,379 --> 00:21:34,815
That girl can scream.

491
00:21:35,772 --> 00:21:39,080
She scared me, actually, it was,
um, it's the truth of it.

492
00:21:39,123 --> 00:21:42,431
My first scream was
so intensely afraid

493
00:21:42,475 --> 00:21:43,998
that I don't think
it was long enough.

494
00:21:44,041 --> 00:21:45,695
Because the first time...
[chuckles]

495
00:21:45,739 --> 00:21:48,219
...she screamed and it scared
the crap out of her

496
00:21:48,263 --> 00:21:51,397
so bad that it took her breath
out and she went, "Ye--"

497
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,007
[man chuckles]

498
00:21:53,050 --> 00:21:54,487
[crowd laughs]

499
00:21:54,530 --> 00:21:56,271
-And there was no scream...
-[soft chuckles]

500
00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,229
...so they had to do it again.

501
00:21:58,273 --> 00:22:01,320
They said,
"You need to scream longer."

502
00:22:01,363 --> 00:22:03,583
And so, that second scream
was the second take.

503
00:22:03,626 --> 00:22:04,801
[loudly screams]

504
00:22:04,845 --> 00:22:06,455
[hisses]

505
00:22:06,499 --> 00:22:08,109
Phoebe! That's my daughter!

506
00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:09,415
[scream continues]

507
00:22:09,458 --> 00:22:12,287
Now,
I think she turned out okay.

508
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:14,768
I don't think we, uh,
we did any permanent damage,

509
00:22:14,811 --> 00:22:18,293
but scaring the hell out of kids
was-- seemed like a great idea.

510
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:21,601
And then the laughs played
against that in a wonderful way.

511
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,479
-[dramatic musical sting]
-[soft howl]

512
00:22:30,523 --> 00:22:32,568
Welcome to the mad--
mad house and the mess.

513
00:22:32,612 --> 00:22:34,309
But this is--
this is the fun part

514
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,180
-because this is
where everything happens.
-Mm-hm.

515
00:22:36,224 --> 00:22:37,660
[André]
We us-- everybody is
so used to seeing it,

516
00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:39,575
-like, the finished product.
-Yes.

517
00:22:39,619 --> 00:22:42,883
I-- I think I was 17
when Monster Squadcame out.

518
00:22:42,926 --> 00:22:44,667
I already knew I would dig it

519
00:22:44,711 --> 00:22:46,365
because it's the monsters--
it's the classic monsters,

520
00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:49,237
but the local cinema
had called me and had said,

521
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,152
"We're doing
Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors.

522
00:22:51,195 --> 00:22:52,936
Would you dress up
as Freddy Krueger and,

523
00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:55,417
you know, come in and scare
the audience?" [mumbles]

524
00:22:55,461 --> 00:22:56,723
It went down really well.

525
00:22:56,766 --> 00:22:58,202
They used
to call me and said, "Hey,

526
00:22:58,246 --> 00:22:59,290
The Monster Squad
it's coming in.

527
00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:00,291
Will you do something for that?"

528
00:23:00,335 --> 00:23:01,467
And I said, "Hell, yes.

529
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:02,511
No, I'd love to do that."

530
00:23:02,555 --> 00:23:03,556
I played The Mummy,

531
00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:04,731
I was a lot skinnier then.

532
00:23:04,774 --> 00:23:06,123
And my other three friends were

533
00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:07,516
Frankenstein,
Dracula and the Wolfman.

534
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,822
It was a really
good big deal within

535
00:23:08,865 --> 00:23:10,258
all the local press, it was fun.

536
00:23:10,301 --> 00:23:12,042
Oh, these were my kits for, um,

537
00:23:12,086 --> 00:23:13,348
a movie called
The Shape of Water.

538
00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:14,784
Oh, I've hear--
I've heard of it.

539
00:23:14,828 --> 00:23:16,438
After I did that
and the pictures were paid

540
00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:18,745
in the local paper,
a company in London,

541
00:23:18,788 --> 00:23:20,181
Weekend Television, contacted me

542
00:23:20,224 --> 00:23:22,096
to do some makeup
to one of their TV shows.

543
00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:24,403
So, we're The Monster Squad
is what this particular producer

544
00:23:24,446 --> 00:23:25,969
saw when he brought me in,

545
00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:27,318
ironically not to do monsters,

546
00:23:27,362 --> 00:23:28,842
it was to do old age makeups.

547
00:23:28,885 --> 00:23:31,061
So that f-- pushed
my career even further.

548
00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:33,629
[Mike Hill]
Yeah, this is a--
well, you can see it's,

549
00:23:33,673 --> 00:23:36,371
it's some applying thi--
it's actually the very
first applyings

550
00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:38,982
that Doug Jones wore
in The Shape of Water.

551
00:23:39,026 --> 00:23:41,071
[André]
So these weren't just mock-ups,

552
00:23:41,115 --> 00:23:43,378
-these were actual--
-No, these are
the actual very first,

553
00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:45,511
first day of shooting ones.
And I know exactly

554
00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:48,296
because Guillermo told me
exactly where he wanted
the spots.

555
00:23:48,339 --> 00:23:51,038
[André]
Yeah, because when
he put that whole suit on,

556
00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:54,476
-he's in the suit all day long.
-Yep.

557
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,131
-And takes one hand off
so he can have...
-At lunchtime,

558
00:23:57,174 --> 00:23:58,306
-so he can uses a bathroom.
-...some salad.

559
00:23:58,349 --> 00:23:59,612
Actually, this is great stuff--

560
00:23:59,655 --> 00:24:01,440
[André]
What's interesting about

561
00:24:01,483 --> 00:24:04,268
creature making is
everybody in the modern era

562
00:24:04,312 --> 00:24:06,619
of special effects
and creature design,

563
00:24:06,662 --> 00:24:09,317
we're all kids at one time
and they saw these
classic monsters.

564
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,275
And so, they really put that enthusiasm

565
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,715
into making their iteration
of these classic monsters.

566
00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:19,066
I'm Tom Woodruff Jr.,
I'm the co-owner
and co-founder of a ADI.

567
00:24:19,109 --> 00:24:23,157
I'm John Rosengrant and I'm one
of the owners of Legacy Effects.

568
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,204
I'm Shane Mahan, another
co-owner of Legacy Effects.

569
00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:29,511
I'm Steve Wang.

570
00:24:29,555 --> 00:24:31,078
I was hired by Stan Winston

571
00:24:31,121 --> 00:24:32,601
back in 1986

572
00:24:32,645 --> 00:24:35,125
to be the art director slash,

573
00:24:35,169 --> 00:24:37,127
uh, builder
of the Gillman creature

574
00:24:37,171 --> 00:24:38,868
along with this gentleman here,
Matt Rose.

575
00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:42,481
Alec Gillis was
my business partner here

576
00:24:42,524 --> 00:24:44,352
and I actually worked
for Stan Winston

577
00:24:44,395 --> 00:24:47,224
for several years during which
we did Monster Squad.

578
00:24:47,268 --> 00:24:51,098
On Monster Squad,
I headed up the team
to create the Wolfman.

579
00:24:51,141 --> 00:24:54,275
My responsibility was the Mummy.

580
00:24:54,318 --> 00:24:56,712
[Tom]
When Stan told us
about the show,

581
00:24:56,756 --> 00:24:59,019
"Monster Squad,
it's got all these monsters."

582
00:24:59,062 --> 00:25:00,934
And the first thing
we heard was,

583
00:25:00,977 --> 00:25:03,502
"And Universal said
we can redo the monsters."

584
00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:04,981
[tense music]

585
00:25:05,025 --> 00:25:06,505
And those early monster movies

586
00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:08,289
were really targeted for adults.

587
00:25:08,332 --> 00:25:11,118
And they wer-- came out
during the Great Depression.

588
00:25:11,161 --> 00:25:14,687
And they came out of a period
of enormous economic anxiety,

589
00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:17,037
a sense of fear, whether you
were goin-- you know,

590
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,127
whether your parents
are going to put food
on the table the next day.

591
00:25:20,170 --> 00:25:22,216
We'r-- we're both 20 years old.
I'm standing there, like,

592
00:25:22,259 --> 00:25:24,261
kind of, you know, like excited,

593
00:25:24,305 --> 00:25:25,741
thinking, "Oh, my God,
we're getting to build

594
00:25:25,785 --> 00:25:26,742
the Creature
from the Black Lagoon."

595
00:25:26,786 --> 00:25:29,745
[tense music]

596
00:25:29,789 --> 00:25:31,747
That was totally cool.

597
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:37,579
Stan then said,
"No, Universal said no."

598
00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:41,322
They put the hammer down fast on
because they trademark
those looks.

599
00:25:41,365 --> 00:25:43,150
We could use the characters.

600
00:25:43,193 --> 00:25:46,806
We just had to be careful
not to recreate

601
00:25:46,849 --> 00:25:50,113
the exact look of the old,
uh, Jack Pierce makeups

602
00:25:50,157 --> 00:25:53,595
because even then, they were
using those at the theme park.

603
00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:55,728
We were a little, you know,

604
00:25:55,771 --> 00:25:57,425
crestfallen
for a couple of days,

605
00:25:57,468 --> 00:25:59,122
but then everyone rose
to the occasion.

606
00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:02,430
And so, what we had
to do is adjust,

607
00:26:02,473 --> 00:26:04,301
you know,
make minor adjustments.

608
00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:06,913
Okay, fine. You can't beat
the cool out of this project.

609
00:26:08,131 --> 00:26:11,352
[Shane Mahan]
Stan actually drew
and sketched by pencil

610
00:26:11,395 --> 00:26:15,399
the characters themselves,
so we sort of watched him
develop these looks.

611
00:26:15,443 --> 00:26:17,053
[Tom]
When we were doing
the creature builds,

612
00:26:17,097 --> 00:26:19,621
Stan was always good about
splitting up the work.

613
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:21,449
The great thing about Stan was

614
00:26:21,492 --> 00:26:25,105
that he was incredibly
supportive of these people

615
00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:26,802
that he had hired
because he trusted them.

616
00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:29,544
And so, he gave them projects,
in this case,

617
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:33,548
specific monsters that they had
never done before and didn't
even know if they could do.

618
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,550
"Alec, you're going
to do the bat transformation.

619
00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,073
John, well,
you'll do the Wolfman.

620
00:26:37,117 --> 00:26:39,075
Shane will do the Mummy,
and Matt and Steve,

621
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,120
you guys will do the Gillman."

622
00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:41,643
This was one of those jobs

623
00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:44,994
where it really
didn't matter which one.

624
00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:47,867
It's like, "Oh, shoot,
I got stuck with Wolfman."

625
00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:49,346
I remember kind of looking
to everybody and saying,

626
00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:50,739
"Oh, so, how do y--

627
00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:52,262
how do you guys
make monster suits?"

628
00:26:52,306 --> 00:26:53,655
And it was just silence.

629
00:26:53,699 --> 00:26:55,309
And then
it kind of dawned on me.

630
00:26:55,352 --> 00:26:58,573
"Oh, let the newbies
figure it out." [chuckles]

631
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:00,662
[calm music]

632
00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:03,534
[John]
We got to present
a lot of Wolfmans

633
00:27:03,578 --> 00:27:05,754
to end up with the final one.

634
00:27:05,798 --> 00:27:08,061
We got to do
the Werewolf of London,

635
00:27:08,104 --> 00:27:10,280
and the whole transitions
in the phone booth

636
00:27:10,324 --> 00:27:13,196
were, you know, doing
some old-school laying hair on

637
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,504
an-- and uti-- utilizing
some prosthetics and teeth

638
00:27:16,547 --> 00:27:18,637
I'd made, and contacts.

639
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,508
In the final one, y-- you know,

640
00:27:20,551 --> 00:27:22,553
I kept saying,
"Stan, let's get some

641
00:27:22,597 --> 00:27:25,731
of the Oliver Reed the Hammer
look into it, too."

642
00:27:26,688 --> 00:27:30,126
That's kind of the lighter brown
fur with the different patterns.

643
00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:31,998
-[Shane Mahan] Torn shirt.
-[John] The torn shirt.

644
00:27:32,041 --> 00:27:34,696
The white-- whitish kind
of torn shirt.

645
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,393
Our Mummy is
completely different,

646
00:27:36,437 --> 00:27:38,787
that was a choice of mine
because I th--

647
00:27:38,831 --> 00:27:40,789
I thought we already
had a big lumbering monster,

648
00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:42,486
so let's make the Mummy little.

649
00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:43,531
[Shane Mahan] The real mummies,

650
00:27:43,574 --> 00:27:44,924
if you go to a museum,

651
00:27:44,967 --> 00:27:46,577
they're very diminutive,

652
00:27:46,621 --> 00:27:49,842
they-- they're very small,
thin people,

653
00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:54,629
and maybe that'd be
a good contrast to Tom Noonan and-- and it sort of worked out.

654
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,632
[Fred]
And Tom Woodruff, who I just
worked with on the Predator,

655
00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:01,201
always wanted to play
the monster as well
as make them.

656
00:28:01,244 --> 00:28:04,378
He's creating and making
the Frankenstein's monster's
applications

657
00:28:04,421 --> 00:28:05,988
for Tom to wear
on his face and head,

658
00:28:06,032 --> 00:28:07,990
and he gets to be
in the Gillman suit.

659
00:28:08,034 --> 00:28:10,166
Playing Gillman was a--

660
00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:12,734
It had its own challenges,
a little bit different
from the makeup.

661
00:28:12,778 --> 00:28:15,563
Once he was in that suit,
he couldn't really get out.

662
00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:18,784
That Gillman suit is
really a one-piece,

663
00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:21,351
full-length bodysuit
that you get glued into,

664
00:28:21,395 --> 00:28:24,703
and he's in there for 12,
15 hours a day.

665
00:28:24,746 --> 00:28:27,314
To the very first day
that I was glued into the suit,

666
00:28:27,357 --> 00:28:28,794
we did the work in the lagoon,

667
00:28:28,837 --> 00:28:30,752
and it was a cold night.

668
00:28:30,796 --> 00:28:32,275
During lunch, I remember,

669
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:33,668
I just went
to the dressing room.

670
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,409
I laid down
and actually fell asleep.

671
00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:37,063
You're not eating, and
you're not drinking anything.

672
00:28:37,106 --> 00:28:38,934
I remember waking up
during that lunch break

673
00:28:38,978 --> 00:28:40,457
and nobody was with me.

674
00:28:40,501 --> 00:28:42,111
I think you only had
two little peepholes

675
00:28:42,155 --> 00:28:44,374
to actually see out of in that--
in that helmet part.

676
00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:47,769
I didn't know where I was,
I just felt like my body
was completely locked,

677
00:28:47,813 --> 00:28:49,728
and I could feel
my heart rate going up

678
00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:51,294
and my breathing
was getting shallow.

679
00:28:51,338 --> 00:28:53,383
I can't imagine
the claustrophobic feel

680
00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:56,343
that you'd be glued
into this foam,

681
00:28:56,386 --> 00:28:58,388
latex suit
that's soaked with water

682
00:28:58,432 --> 00:29:01,130
in this giant creature head
that you can't see out of.

683
00:29:01,174 --> 00:29:04,481
And I had--
I just kind of talk myself down

684
00:29:04,525 --> 00:29:06,353
an-- and remember that
I'm in the suit, and I--

685
00:29:06,396 --> 00:29:09,051
Still, it wa-- it was frantic,
just a frantic few seconds.

686
00:29:09,095 --> 00:29:10,923
I don't think everybody
can do stuff like that.

687
00:29:10,966 --> 00:29:13,099
The fact
that he played the creature

688
00:29:13,142 --> 00:29:15,405
and that he continued
after that to continue
to play monsters is,

689
00:29:15,449 --> 00:29:18,017
uh, shows how--
how devoted he is.

690
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:19,758
What we do,

691
00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:21,672
no matter
how well we make it, is...

692
00:29:22,848 --> 00:29:24,458
really a piece of plastic,

693
00:29:24,501 --> 00:29:26,808
you know,
it could be a beautiful model

694
00:29:26,852 --> 00:29:29,942
or whatever, but it's the action
that brings it to life.

695
00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,640
That's really the final thing

696
00:29:32,683 --> 00:29:34,816
because, if it's just sitting
there as a--

697
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:37,384
as a display, that can be
great and dynamic,

698
00:29:37,427 --> 00:29:40,300
but in film, you need
the actor to bring it up.

699
00:29:40,343 --> 00:29:44,565
Steve Wang and Matt Rose
did a great job on the Gillman.

700
00:29:44,608 --> 00:29:48,656
For its day,
set the tone for so many things.

701
00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:50,571
I will go on record

702
00:29:52,703 --> 00:29:55,924
and say I think our creatures
is one of the best monster
costumes ever filmed.

703
00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:57,926
Having been involved
in other suits in the past,

704
00:29:57,970 --> 00:29:59,841
and also having studied a lot

705
00:29:59,885 --> 00:30:02,365
how monsters-- monster suits
were made back in the old days,

706
00:30:02,409 --> 00:30:04,846
they usually made it
in sections and parts
and they just kind of like

707
00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:07,196
put it-- put it on,
they'd do zippers and do--

708
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,590
and sometimes you'd just see
where all the seams are.

709
00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:11,244
So the way
that Matt and I did it

710
00:30:11,287 --> 00:30:13,333
is, you know,
we still did our body cast

711
00:30:13,376 --> 00:30:14,725
and we sculpted the whole suit,

712
00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:16,162
but instead
of making it in sections,

713
00:30:16,205 --> 00:30:19,121
the main body was
all molded just as one.

714
00:30:19,165 --> 00:30:21,863
And-- and, was it the first shot
he went right into the lagoon?

715
00:30:21,907 --> 00:30:23,952
-Yeah.
-We're seeing you do the suit,

716
00:30:23,996 --> 00:30:27,956
this perfect suit, they say,
"Put it in the water." "What?"

717
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,828
[Steve Wang]
Remember how nervously
we were because it's, like,

718
00:30:29,871 --> 00:30:31,699
we're-- we're gluing
the hands on, we were, like...

719
00:30:31,742 --> 00:30:33,657
[whispering]
"Okay, I think it's working."

720
00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:35,964
And then we were-- we're putting
the feet on, you know,

721
00:30:36,008 --> 00:30:37,531
"All right,
that seam went away."

722
00:30:37,574 --> 00:30:39,272
And following, we're gluing
th-- the head,

723
00:30:39,315 --> 00:30:41,883
his big giant seam,
I would put it on.

724
00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:44,451
And we're starting to glue,
and Matt was in the front
and I'm in the back,

725
00:30:44,494 --> 00:30:46,714
and we're, like, gluing it on,
and then looked at him,

726
00:30:46,757 --> 00:30:47,889
Matt looked at me,
and we're just, like,

727
00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:50,283
"It works." [laughs]

728
00:30:50,326 --> 00:30:53,416
I mean,
it fit like a tailored suit,

729
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:57,029
-it really did--
-Stan got so many compliments
when he walked out,

730
00:30:57,072 --> 00:30:59,205
all the people are like,
"I was in business 30 years,

731
00:30:59,248 --> 00:31:00,815
I've never seen anything
like this before," you know,

732
00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,512
and Stan is like,
"Thank you. Thank you.

733
00:31:02,556 --> 00:31:05,994
I did it all, me, me!
And the-- these two helped."

734
00:31:06,038 --> 00:31:07,909
Stan was always a jokester,
you know.

735
00:31:07,953 --> 00:31:09,476
The question is
how do you create

736
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,043
a new Creature in Black Lagoon?
Well,

737
00:31:12,392 --> 00:31:14,829
you just have
Stan Winston's guys design it

738
00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:16,962
and build it,
and-- and sculpt it.

739
00:31:17,005 --> 00:31:19,181
[crickets chirping]

740
00:31:19,225 --> 00:31:20,879
[wolf howls]

741
00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:24,970
[howls continue]

742
00:31:29,061 --> 00:31:30,932
We wrapped the movie
and you've got six,

743
00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:32,978
eight months
before it comes out and--

744
00:31:33,021 --> 00:31:34,805
It felt...

745
00:31:34,849 --> 00:31:36,807
like, all of a sudden, like,

746
00:31:36,851 --> 00:31:38,548
your life was going to change...

747
00:31:38,592 --> 00:31:39,941
drastically.

748
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,204
Fred and Shane
and the guys,

749
00:31:42,248 --> 00:31:44,424
they all got together
in a limo on our opening night,

750
00:31:44,467 --> 00:31:46,165
and we drove around Los Angeles

751
00:31:46,208 --> 00:31:48,036
and went to all the theaters
that it was playing it.

752
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,691
And we went to probably
five or six theaters.

753
00:31:51,822 --> 00:31:53,346
I will not forget that.

754
00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:55,304
We went to one
actually in the valley.

755
00:31:55,348 --> 00:31:59,700
There was seven or eight people
in the theater, I think.

756
00:32:00,701 --> 00:32:02,877
Seven or eight people
in the theater

757
00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:05,967
which seats 300 people.

758
00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:08,013
It was crushing.

759
00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:09,797
[Joe]
I walked out
of that movie thinking,

760
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,017
"I can't wait
until the newspaper

761
00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:14,497
comes out on Monday morning,"
because that's when
they would a--

762
00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:17,109
they would have the top ten
movies for the weekend.

763
00:32:17,152 --> 00:32:18,937
I hoped it was Monster Squad
and unfortunately,

764
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:20,939
it wasn't.
And I was really bummed.

765
00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:23,419
Well, listen, it was a huge hit.

766
00:32:23,463 --> 00:32:25,117
And by it, I mean The Lost Boys.

767
00:32:26,379 --> 00:32:29,686
The Lost Boys
came out two weeks

768
00:32:29,730 --> 00:32:31,732
before The Monster Squad.

769
00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:37,042
Two weeks later,
we come out and we tank.

770
00:32:37,085 --> 00:32:39,000
And it was incredibly
disappointing.

771
00:32:39,044 --> 00:32:42,395
My review of Monsters Squad
appeared in the LA Times

772
00:32:42,438 --> 00:32:45,702
on August 14th 1987.

773
00:32:45,746 --> 00:32:48,618
"The Monster Squadis such fun.

774
00:32:48,662 --> 00:32:50,533
It makes you wish
you were a kid again.

775
00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:53,667
Although you can never regain
childhood innocence,

776
00:32:53,710 --> 00:32:56,409
you can find compensation
in being able to appreciate

777
00:32:56,452 --> 00:32:59,368
the artistry with which
director Fred Dekker

778
00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:02,197
and co-writer Shane Black,
have brought

779
00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:05,853
to this horror comedy-adventure
aimed at youngsters."

780
00:33:05,896 --> 00:33:08,812
Yeah, and not all the critics
were so generous.

781
00:33:08,856 --> 00:33:11,206
Vincent Canby
of the New York Timeswrote,

782
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,817
a mildly scathing review

783
00:33:13,861 --> 00:33:17,604
of The Monster Squad
which I think makes it plain

784
00:33:17,647 --> 00:33:20,433
that this is never
going to be a movie for him

785
00:33:20,476 --> 00:33:22,609
because the last line
of his review says,

786
00:33:22,652 --> 00:33:25,307
"The Monster Squad
includes vulgar language

787
00:33:25,351 --> 00:33:29,703
and some sequences that
could scare already emotionally
troubled four-year-olds."

788
00:33:31,357 --> 00:33:33,489
-Well...
-As a kid, you're relegated

789
00:33:33,533 --> 00:33:35,404
to whoever was
in your local newspaper

790
00:33:35,448 --> 00:33:37,102
or maybe Siskel and Ebert.

791
00:33:37,145 --> 00:33:38,755
I would say a good majority

792
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,540
of the people writing
the print reviews

793
00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:44,326
for newspapers weren't
film lovers themselves so much.

794
00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:46,154
They-- they were
assigned that duty.

795
00:33:46,198 --> 00:33:48,243
[Jen]
You think about the impact

796
00:33:48,287 --> 00:33:50,289
that it had at the time,

797
00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:52,900
when newspaper reviews
could make or break

798
00:33:52,943 --> 00:33:56,077
a movie that might need
critical support

799
00:33:56,121 --> 00:33:59,211
to find its audience,
in a time when audiences

800
00:33:59,254 --> 00:34:01,387
largely depended on critics

801
00:34:01,430 --> 00:34:04,520
to tell them what is worth
seeing and what is not.

802
00:34:04,564 --> 00:34:07,001
Let's not tiptoe around it,
the movie bombed,

803
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:08,481
the movie bombed.

804
00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:11,179
"Guys, uh,
better luck next time.

805
00:34:11,223 --> 00:34:13,877
This movie just,
no one's seeing it,

806
00:34:13,921 --> 00:34:16,489
no one knows about it.
No one cares."

807
00:34:16,532 --> 00:34:19,709
I mean,
I don't even know if I remember

808
00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:22,060
that I knew
when the release date was.

809
00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:26,107
I just remember thinking
that people should've been
talking about it more.

810
00:34:26,151 --> 00:34:28,501
[laughs] That's all.

811
00:34:28,544 --> 00:34:30,764
But I remember
the profound disappointment,

812
00:34:30,807 --> 00:34:32,940
because you spent
two years on these things

813
00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:36,074
and you know in an afternoon

814
00:34:36,117 --> 00:34:38,554
whether it's gone
or it's going to stay.

815
00:34:38,598 --> 00:34:41,470
By Friday night, latest
Saturday morning, it's like,

816
00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:45,953
"Well, you're movie is a hit,"
or, "Yeah, next time."

817
00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:49,435
I'd-- I didn--
I wanted it to all go away.

818
00:34:49,478 --> 00:34:50,914
I said, "No more acting.

819
00:34:52,002 --> 00:34:55,223
I don't want anyone t--
to know that that happened."

820
00:34:56,181 --> 00:34:58,400
And so,
I would never talk about it.

821
00:34:58,444 --> 00:34:59,880
I wouldn't let anyone know.

822
00:35:01,011 --> 00:35:03,927
I wouldn't let girlfriends know.

823
00:35:03,971 --> 00:35:05,581
When movies come out,

824
00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:08,236
they get a--
a limited time to perform.

825
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,673
They get all kinds
of conditions and circumstances

826
00:35:10,717 --> 00:35:12,675
that have nothing to do
with the quality of the movie,

827
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,416
where it's released,
the date it's released.

828
00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:15,678
How many screens,

829
00:35:15,722 --> 00:35:17,854
what's going on that week.

830
00:35:17,898 --> 00:35:20,335
[Stephen]
I saw that it
was a PG-13 rating.

831
00:35:21,249 --> 00:35:22,120
And I thought...

832
00:35:23,643 --> 00:35:25,819
"No." At that time,

833
00:35:25,862 --> 00:35:27,864
I-- I said to my wife, I said,

834
00:35:27,908 --> 00:35:32,042
"I don't think that mothers
are going to schlep their kids

835
00:35:32,086 --> 00:35:35,568
to this movie, to get them in,
to watch it with them."

836
00:35:35,611 --> 00:35:37,657
True is the fact it didn't last,

837
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:41,095
and I think it had to do
a lot with that rating.

838
00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:43,228
[Paul]
When this film was released,
it was rated at 15,

839
00:35:43,271 --> 00:35:46,231
which means that anybody
under the age of 15

840
00:35:46,274 --> 00:35:47,797
wasn't able to see
this film theatrically

841
00:35:47,841 --> 00:35:49,538
and wasn't able
to rent the VHS tape.

842
00:35:49,582 --> 00:35:51,714
You had to be 15
or older to see this film.

843
00:35:51,758 --> 00:35:54,108
So, when it was released,
it was clearly marketed

844
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:57,111
towards that Goonies-y
sort of, you know,

845
00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:59,026
teen adventure film audience

846
00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:01,159
whose films
typically were rated PG.

847
00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:03,596
No one who wanted to
see it could see it,
I couldn't see it.

848
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:05,424
I think it's also a testament

849
00:36:05,467 --> 00:36:08,601
to the fact that the movie
was maybe not properly

850
00:36:08,644 --> 00:36:10,690
marketed or marketed enough

851
00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:13,475
back then and it's crazy
to think of what a year
would have made,

852
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,782
if they just sat on it
for a few more months

853
00:36:15,825 --> 00:36:19,220
and then released it with,
"From the writer of Lethal
Weapon."

854
00:36:19,264 --> 00:36:21,222
I thought we had
an ability to appeal

855
00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:22,789
to some people on a,

856
00:36:22,832 --> 00:36:25,618
a more nostalgic emotional level

857
00:36:25,661 --> 00:36:28,098
than just simply
the cartoon version

858
00:36:28,142 --> 00:36:31,014
that I think the ads would--
suggested the movie to be.

859
00:36:31,058 --> 00:36:33,539
Because we just had
these "wanted" posters

860
00:36:33,582 --> 00:36:36,368
all over around billboards
and it just-- it was like
mug shots of the monsters

861
00:36:36,411 --> 00:36:38,631
with, like, a call to action,
but nowhere to go.

862
00:36:38,674 --> 00:36:41,242
[Andrew]
It's really hard to find
stuff from The Monster Squad,

863
00:36:41,286 --> 00:36:43,592
but then I joined eBay
in 2005 and I was like,

864
00:36:43,636 --> 00:36:46,421
-"Oh, my God,
look at all this great stuff."
-[vocalizes fanfare]

865
00:36:46,465 --> 00:36:49,163
Right? So I'll--
I'll check in every couple days

866
00:36:49,207 --> 00:36:51,992
-and...
-Not too many people have that.

867
00:36:52,035 --> 00:36:53,341
Probably a good reason for it.

868
00:36:58,216 --> 00:36:59,913
You know, I-- [stutters]
got it and then I was like,

869
00:36:59,956 --> 00:37:01,654
"Well,
that's not even Duncan.

870
00:37:01,697 --> 00:37:03,656
That looks like
a Halloween mask costume

871
00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:06,224
-in a, like, a Kmart
or something.
-Yeah, I don't know--

872
00:37:06,267 --> 00:37:08,530
Wanted poster, like an Old West,

873
00:37:08,574 --> 00:37:10,445
-but new mug shot type thing.
-Right.

874
00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:14,623
"For felony neck biting,
unlawful blood-sucking,

875
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:16,886
and assault and bat-tery."

876
00:37:17,887 --> 00:37:20,803
-Yeah.
-Mummy.

877
00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:24,372
"Armed bandage
and statutory wrap."

878
00:37:24,416 --> 00:37:28,463
Today I think if you
even brought that idea

879
00:37:28,507 --> 00:37:33,468
to the conference room table
in an ad pitch,

880
00:37:34,426 --> 00:37:36,428
you might be
cleaning out your desk.

881
00:37:36,471 --> 00:37:38,908
[André]
Like, so-- that got--
that got greenlit,

882
00:37:38,952 --> 00:37:41,302
that got greenlit, right?
[chuckles]

883
00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:43,086
That was on billboards,

884
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:45,741
like, giant billboards
in LA and across the country.

885
00:37:45,785 --> 00:37:48,135
-It's probably why
the movie didn't do well.
-Oh-- [laughs]

886
00:37:48,178 --> 00:37:50,050
And the next weekend,

887
00:37:50,093 --> 00:37:51,791
it didn't get any better.

888
00:37:51,834 --> 00:37:56,709
[Fred]
I never, ever,
ever got the sense

889
00:37:56,752 --> 00:38:01,104
that this movie was
finding a new audience

890
00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:04,456
or that its original audience
were enjoying it again.

891
00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:06,109
None whatsoever.

892
00:38:06,153 --> 00:38:07,415
I was still licking my wounds.

893
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:10,810
[interviewer] Until 2006.

894
00:38:10,853 --> 00:38:15,858
Which is--
so that's roughly 16 years,

895
00:38:15,902 --> 00:38:19,775
before I had a clue
that people liked this movie.

896
00:38:20,689 --> 00:38:21,864
That's the God's truth.

897
00:38:27,435 --> 00:38:29,959
[upbeat rock music]

898
00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:51,241
[man shouting]
The Monster Squad!

899
00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:54,767
[crowd cheering]

900
00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:05,430
-[Ryan] Oh, my God! Hi!
-[André] How are you?

901
00:39:08,084 --> 00:39:09,216
[André]
How you doing?

902
00:39:10,609 --> 00:39:11,958
Welcome!

903
00:39:12,001 --> 00:39:15,614
We're doing 17 Alamos
in 17 days.

904
00:39:15,657 --> 00:39:17,877
[crowd cheers and claps]

905
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,619
Only because of you guys
that keep filling up

906
00:39:20,662 --> 00:39:21,968
-these damn theaters.
-[Ashely] Yes.

907
00:39:23,970 --> 00:39:27,408
Monster Squadfans are very
special and th-- they're
a little bit

908
00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:29,889
tighter connected to this movie
than most genres fans.

909
00:39:29,932 --> 00:39:31,978
I don't think
anybody in here doesn't have

910
00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:34,894
a special connection
with this movie
for some reason, right?

911
00:39:34,937 --> 00:39:38,680
Uh, it hit and connected
somewhere that stayed with you.

912
00:39:38,724 --> 00:39:40,639
And after five or six years...

913
00:39:40,682 --> 00:39:42,336
[chuckles] it just got
to be overwhelming

914
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:46,166
how interesting this fan dynamic
is with this movie.

915
00:39:46,209 --> 00:39:48,647
[garage door rattles
and squeaks]

916
00:39:51,606 --> 00:39:55,393
Dance to this for the, uh,
Horrorhound of Cincinnati.

917
00:39:55,436 --> 00:39:57,612
It is probably
one of my favorite pieces, uh,

918
00:39:57,656 --> 00:39:59,440
if someone ends up
making a t-shirt,

919
00:39:59,484 --> 00:40:01,442
let me know because
I'll gladly buy at least like

920
00:40:01,486 --> 00:40:03,662
seven of them so I can wear them
every single day of the week.

921
00:40:03,705 --> 00:40:07,143
I decorated my garage
in the way that I imagined.

922
00:40:07,187 --> 00:40:11,104
Rudy and Sean and Patrick
decorating their tree house

923
00:40:11,147 --> 00:40:12,758
with all the monster stuff.

924
00:40:12,801 --> 00:40:15,151
I saw that
and instantly I was like,

925
00:40:15,195 --> 00:40:17,937
"Man, I would want
to emulate something like that."

926
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:19,460
You can step
into a room in your--

927
00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:20,809
you can look
at someone's tattoos now

928
00:40:20,853 --> 00:40:22,463
because those
are collections too.

929
00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:25,379
And you could understand
and not have to ask, like,

930
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:27,642
"W-- what movies do you like?"
It's like, well,

931
00:40:27,686 --> 00:40:29,557
they could possibly
be tattooed on someone's arms

932
00:40:29,601 --> 00:40:31,298
or, if you look around a room,

933
00:40:31,341 --> 00:40:32,995
you could pick up on it
pretty quick.

934
00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:36,303
My first experience
with The Monster Squad

935
00:40:36,346 --> 00:40:38,523
was, uh, spending the night
over at a buddy's house.

936
00:40:38,566 --> 00:40:41,482
So we, uh, turned it on,
I was probably seven or eight.

937
00:40:41,526 --> 00:40:43,353
And it was on HBO
or something like that.

938
00:40:43,397 --> 00:40:46,966
And we sat there and, uh,
wolfed down popcorn

939
00:40:47,009 --> 00:40:50,404
and watched the most amazing
movie of our lives.

940
00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:52,885
Everything we had seen
up till then, it all
had been kid's stuff,

941
00:40:52,928 --> 00:40:55,670
and this was
the first-- the first taste
of something dangerous.

942
00:40:55,714 --> 00:40:57,759
[light rock music fades]

943
00:40:57,803 --> 00:41:00,458
[crickets chirping]

944
00:41:00,501 --> 00:41:02,808
[wolf howls]

945
00:41:05,898 --> 00:41:07,943
[eerie suspenseful music]

946
00:41:12,078 --> 00:41:15,298
Back in the '70s, cable was
what you did to get television

947
00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:19,215
if you were in the mountains.
By the time that had been
exploited

948
00:41:19,259 --> 00:41:21,479
to the point where it's
economically feasible,

949
00:41:21,522 --> 00:41:23,002
then they went into the cities.

950
00:41:23,045 --> 00:41:26,048
The growth kept going
and going and going.

951
00:41:26,092 --> 00:41:29,530
I was at HBO when
The Monster Squadfirst aired.

952
00:41:29,574 --> 00:41:32,577
We knew that, by the time
a film came out of the theaters

953
00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:36,537
and maybe went to VHS,
95% of people had not seen it.

954
00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:40,193
We put it in front of a network
of 20 or 25 million households,

955
00:41:40,236 --> 00:41:42,543
somebody would watch
Monster Squadin HBO,

956
00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:45,241
tell his next door neighbor,
the word got out.

957
00:41:45,285 --> 00:41:48,897
Monster Squad
developed a word of mouth.

958
00:41:48,941 --> 00:41:52,335
I think it was either HBO or--
or The Preview Channel,

959
00:41:52,379 --> 00:41:54,555
I think that's
what it was called before HBO.

960
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:56,688
Monster Squadwas on a lot, um,

961
00:41:56,731 --> 00:41:59,038
Beastmasterwas always on,
Dragonslayer.

962
00:41:59,081 --> 00:42:03,085
And those were the movies
that really shaped my youth.

963
00:42:03,129 --> 00:42:06,654
Pretty much the early days
of HBO were pretty gold
in the sense that,

964
00:42:06,698 --> 00:42:08,569
if you missed an '80s movie,

965
00:42:08,613 --> 00:42:11,050
it would play a hundred times

966
00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:12,834
in a row over and over again.

967
00:42:12,878 --> 00:42:14,053
If you grew up in the 80s,

968
00:42:14,096 --> 00:42:15,794
you knew, when you watched HBO

969
00:42:15,837 --> 00:42:17,447
or any of those cable
channels back then,

970
00:42:17,491 --> 00:42:19,275
that eight o'clock was this,
like,

971
00:42:19,319 --> 00:42:22,017
magical time where, like,
the world changed.

972
00:42:22,061 --> 00:42:25,630
I think that was even
before we owned a VCR.

973
00:42:25,673 --> 00:42:27,719
I think we rented our first VCR.

974
00:42:27,762 --> 00:42:29,459
[Rob]
And then,
eventually I would go

975
00:42:29,503 --> 00:42:31,418
and rent it
when it wasn't on cable.

976
00:42:31,461 --> 00:42:33,333
[Rebekah]
The first time
I ever saw Monster Squad,

977
00:42:33,376 --> 00:42:35,465
my mom had taken me
to the video store,

978
00:42:35,509 --> 00:42:38,077
and I was maybe seven
or eight years old,

979
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,906
and I was a die-hard horror fan
and my mom let me watch

980
00:42:40,949 --> 00:42:42,429
pretty much whatever I wanted.

981
00:42:42,472 --> 00:42:44,257
And I was having
a slumber party that night,

982
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:47,739
and I wanted a horror film,
but mom was scared to death

983
00:42:47,782 --> 00:42:49,479
that all the other parents
were going to freak out

984
00:42:49,523 --> 00:42:51,394
if she brought home, like,
Nightmare on Elm Street,

985
00:42:51,438 --> 00:42:52,874
and I got to watch it
with all the other girls.

986
00:42:52,918 --> 00:42:54,528
So she was looking for something

987
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:57,139
that was a little bit
more kid-friendly.

988
00:42:57,183 --> 00:42:59,011
And she handed me
The Monster Squad

989
00:42:59,054 --> 00:43:00,665
while we were standing
in the middle of the video store

990
00:43:00,708 --> 00:43:02,057
and she said, "How about this?"

991
00:43:02,101 --> 00:43:04,407
And I said,
"Oh, this looks perfect!"

992
00:43:04,451 --> 00:43:07,541
And I took it home
and we watched it during
the slumber party that night,

993
00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:10,675
and half the girls got scared
and half of them loved it,

994
00:43:10,718 --> 00:43:12,677
and it became
one of my favorite movies

995
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,504
throughout
my entire adolescence.

996
00:43:14,548 --> 00:43:16,550
[Mike]
I couldn't tell you
when I first saw it.

997
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:18,160
I can't ever remember a time

998
00:43:18,204 --> 00:43:21,555
when I didn't have
a reliable VHS copy.

999
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,078
I can't remember
a time when there wasn't

1000
00:43:23,122 --> 00:43:25,167
a Monster Squad,
kind of, in my life.

1001
00:43:25,211 --> 00:43:27,387
[Shawn]
The sad fact at the time was,
there were certain movies

1002
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:29,215
that were being sold
to the public and certain ones

1003
00:43:29,258 --> 00:43:31,565
that were just being
shipped off to video stores.

1004
00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:34,350
And if you wanted
to buy a movie, you basically
had to buy it with,

1005
00:43:34,394 --> 00:43:37,049
uh, distribution
license locked into the tape.

1006
00:43:37,092 --> 00:43:39,138
So the tapes cost
like 100 dollars.

1007
00:43:39,181 --> 00:43:41,488
So it built up an obsession

1008
00:43:41,531 --> 00:43:43,185
where every time we'd go
to the video store,

1009
00:43:43,229 --> 00:43:45,797
that's what I'd rent
because I couldn't own it.

1010
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,802
And then,
it disappeared for 19 years.

1011
00:43:50,845 --> 00:43:53,718
It wasn't on anybody's
mind for a very long time.

1012
00:43:57,156 --> 00:43:58,026
Sure.

1013
00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:01,203
Right off the bat, there you go.

1014
00:44:01,247 --> 00:44:02,596
Right off the bat.

1015
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,598
Oh, man,
the whole squad all together.

1016
00:44:05,555 --> 00:44:08,776
Yeah, obviously, I love there is
like a unique style on it,
you know.

1017
00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:12,040
[Germain] My entire apartment
is covered in posters,
some of The Monster Squad.

1018
00:44:12,084 --> 00:44:14,956
And, uh, a lot of it is
that now when I walk

1019
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,221
by that Monster Squadposter,
that Lost Boysposter
or something,

1020
00:44:19,265 --> 00:44:21,702
I immediately sort of have
a flash to the entire movie
in my head.

1021
00:44:21,746 --> 00:44:24,400
Oh, my God, look at this.

1022
00:44:24,444 --> 00:44:26,402
-[soft laughs]
-[Germain] Just so cool.

1023
00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:28,578
-Just so cool.
-And that's the same guy
that's over there.

1024
00:44:28,622 --> 00:44:30,711
The same guy, Geoff Trapp, yeah,
this guy is

1025
00:44:30,755 --> 00:44:33,018
-a Monster Squadfan.
-It's got a little,
uh, dynamite.

1026
00:44:33,061 --> 00:44:35,020
[Germain]
In The Monster Squad
they made those business cards

1027
00:44:35,063 --> 00:44:37,544
and i-- it inspired me
to make my own business card.

1028
00:44:37,587 --> 00:44:41,156
"We kill monsters for pleasure.
No job too weird."

1029
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,419
Uh, and we never actually did
or performed any jobs.

1030
00:44:43,463 --> 00:44:45,595
We just like to have the cards.

1031
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:47,293
-Holy crap.
-Okay. Now this--

1032
00:44:47,336 --> 00:44:50,078
What the hell is this?
This is crazy.

1033
00:44:50,122 --> 00:44:52,951
It's something you love
seen through the eyes
of somebody else.

1034
00:44:52,994 --> 00:44:55,475
And you just totally,
instantly connect to it.

1035
00:44:55,518 --> 00:44:57,782
I don't know if I'll ever
stop collecting, uh,

1036
00:44:57,825 --> 00:44:59,261
if I ever see any cool
Monster Squadstuff.

1037
00:44:59,305 --> 00:45:01,394
I'm always going
to think about buying it

1038
00:45:01,437 --> 00:45:02,830
because it's just, you know,
it reminds me

1039
00:45:02,874 --> 00:45:04,919
of the-- th--
some of the best times.

1040
00:45:04,963 --> 00:45:07,400
[wind blowing]

1041
00:45:11,143 --> 00:45:13,188
[soft eerie music]

1042
00:45:22,371 --> 00:45:24,243
[Fred]
Is Monster Squada cult movie?

1043
00:45:24,286 --> 00:45:25,940
I don't know
what a cult movie is.

1044
00:45:25,984 --> 00:45:28,551
I mean, it's either a weird
movie that people like...

1045
00:45:30,379 --> 00:45:31,467
or...

1046
00:45:33,165 --> 00:45:36,081
I struggle with the word "cult"

1047
00:45:36,124 --> 00:45:38,126
with films sometimes because,
to me,

1048
00:45:38,170 --> 00:45:39,824
a cult film is something like

1049
00:45:41,913 --> 00:45:45,699
Rocky Horroror even
The Room,for better
or for worse.

1050
00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:48,049
But they're movies
that kind of just missed,

1051
00:45:48,093 --> 00:45:50,095
yet, for some reason,
people still love them.

1052
00:45:50,138 --> 00:45:51,705
That's what it is.
That's what a cult movie is.

1053
00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:53,794
It's a weird movie
that people like.

1054
00:45:53,838 --> 00:45:56,275
I think that cult films

1055
00:45:56,318 --> 00:45:59,669
emerge from exploitation genres.

1056
00:45:59,713 --> 00:46:01,889
Cult, over time,

1057
00:46:01,933 --> 00:46:04,152
I don't think means
the same thing that it used to.

1058
00:46:04,196 --> 00:46:06,720
Because cult meant
something that nobody knew about

1059
00:46:06,764 --> 00:46:10,419
except, like, a very small
cult of people.

1060
00:46:10,463 --> 00:46:13,596
Over time, I think
it doesn't mean that same thing.

1061
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,730
I think it now means something
that was wildly popular

1062
00:46:16,774 --> 00:46:18,732
but not financially successful.

1063
00:46:18,776 --> 00:46:21,648
I don't think a movie
that doesn't do well

1064
00:46:21,691 --> 00:46:23,215
but then finds
its audience later.

1065
00:46:23,258 --> 00:46:24,651
Because It's a Wonderful Life
did that,

1066
00:46:24,694 --> 00:46:25,695
The Wizard of Ozdid that,

1067
00:46:25,739 --> 00:46:27,654
a lot of movies did that.

1068
00:46:27,697 --> 00:46:29,830
[Rebekah]
If you ask five different people
what a cult film is,

1069
00:46:29,874 --> 00:46:31,658
you will get
five different answers.

1070
00:46:31,701 --> 00:46:35,662
Even if you ask five
different expert film academics

1071
00:46:35,705 --> 00:46:38,621
what a cult film is,
you will get five completely
different answers.

1072
00:46:38,665 --> 00:46:40,885
Well, I mean,
a cult film is often a film

1073
00:46:40,928 --> 00:46:44,105
that didn't fully find its
audience when it first came out.

1074
00:46:44,149 --> 00:46:46,542
That people
discover on their own

1075
00:46:46,586 --> 00:46:48,849
and feel like it's a kind
of private fantasy universe

1076
00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:52,374
that they can feel
a particular connection with.

1077
00:46:52,418 --> 00:46:54,681
All of a sudden, it's like
you find lifelong friends

1078
00:46:54,724 --> 00:46:57,118
because you have
this one weird thing in common

1079
00:46:57,162 --> 00:47:00,078
-that nobody else knows about.
-[Rob] They clearly
had the same thing,

1080
00:47:00,121 --> 00:47:01,906
where "I love this,
no one else loves it."

1081
00:47:01,949 --> 00:47:04,430
[Adam Murray]
Kind of a, uh, members-only

1082
00:47:04,473 --> 00:47:06,867
kind of mentality to it,
like a secret club.

1083
00:47:06,911 --> 00:47:09,696
[Ryan]
Probably not the crowd that's
going to seeTransformers.

1084
00:47:09,739 --> 00:47:12,655
But it's like
what real film lovers watch.

1085
00:47:12,699 --> 00:47:15,789
[Zach]
When you first see it,
it seems very kind of,

1086
00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:18,313
like, uh, out of the mainstream.

1087
00:47:18,357 --> 00:47:20,925
And it seems oftentimes
very odd and bizarre.

1088
00:47:20,968 --> 00:47:25,277
And yet, at its core,
the theme is something

1089
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,670
that really resonates
in kind of a universal way.

1090
00:47:27,714 --> 00:47:31,413
When I think of a cult film,
I think of my smaller films,

1091
00:47:31,457 --> 00:47:33,763
uh, that have reached
a certain audience

1092
00:47:33,807 --> 00:47:36,157
and usually at a certain time
in their lives.

1093
00:47:36,201 --> 00:47:39,639
Usually when they're young.
It's like hearing that
great rock song

1094
00:47:39,682 --> 00:47:42,685
when you get your first kiss
or something, you always
are going to remember it.

1095
00:47:42,729 --> 00:47:44,296
[Germain]
So the Monster Squad
fits into that

1096
00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:46,515
because it was a movie
that didn't do too well

1097
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:48,866
at the box office,
and then came out on VHS

1098
00:47:48,909 --> 00:47:50,824
and cable and it
just sort of existed.

1099
00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:52,217
So people had
to find it on their own.

1100
00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:53,522
[Adam Green]
I don't think

1101
00:47:53,566 --> 00:47:55,437
of Monster Squadas a--

1102
00:47:55,481 --> 00:47:57,352
as a cult film, I just don't.

1103
00:47:57,396 --> 00:48:00,094
Oh, a 1000% Monster Squad
is a cult film.

1104
00:48:00,138 --> 00:48:02,967
What makes it cult,
what earns it that right,

1105
00:48:03,010 --> 00:48:06,666
is that it's something that
wasn't financially successful,

1106
00:48:06,709 --> 00:48:10,670
but has fans and those fans
are rabid and loyal.

1107
00:48:10,713 --> 00:48:12,498
It's always been huge.

1108
00:48:12,541 --> 00:48:15,980
And, if anything,
I would call it a classic

1109
00:48:16,023 --> 00:48:17,720
more than a cult film.

1110
00:48:17,764 --> 00:48:20,767
I mean, for me, it-- very
definition of a cult movie,

1111
00:48:20,810 --> 00:48:22,508
because when I saw it as a kid,

1112
00:48:22,551 --> 00:48:24,553
in my mind, it was as big
as all the other movies

1113
00:48:24,597 --> 00:48:27,208
I loved. But I noticed
no one else seemed

1114
00:48:27,252 --> 00:48:29,515
to have either seen it
or even heard of it.

1115
00:48:29,558 --> 00:48:31,473
So what if it wasn't, you know,

1116
00:48:31,517 --> 00:48:33,780
number one at the box office
for a year straight

1117
00:48:33,823 --> 00:48:36,435
or something like that,
none of that matters.

1118
00:48:36,478 --> 00:48:40,439
It's nothing other
than time that allows
a movie to resonate more,

1119
00:48:40,482 --> 00:48:43,355
it's like, it's like marination.

1120
00:48:43,398 --> 00:48:45,879
I just think it's a word though,
it's like, there's a whole bunch
of words

1121
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:48,926
that are really helpful in--
in conversations.

1122
00:48:48,969 --> 00:48:51,711
And I just don't know
that that one is.

1123
00:48:51,754 --> 00:48:54,366
But ultimately movies
are good or bad,

1124
00:48:54,409 --> 00:48:56,672
and they're accepted
or they're not.

1125
00:48:56,716 --> 00:48:58,979
But I don't know
what a cult movie is.

1126
00:48:59,023 --> 00:49:00,720
So I sure don't know
if this is one.

1127
00:49:03,549 --> 00:49:07,335
[Ryan]
Where's the 35mm projector?
Can I see it?

1128
00:49:07,379 --> 00:49:10,251
Oh, yeah, that's the stuff.

1129
00:49:10,295 --> 00:49:12,862
This is a film.
It's going through the thing.

1130
00:49:12,906 --> 00:49:15,169
It's, you know,
then it comes out and it's...
[vocalizes roll rattling]

1131
00:49:15,213 --> 00:49:19,173
[film roll rattles]

1132
00:49:19,217 --> 00:49:21,306
This is the part
that people don't know

1133
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:24,178
-when they're watching a movie.
What's happening?
-[man] We-- Yeah.

1134
00:49:24,222 --> 00:49:26,398
Not just behind the scenes
of making the film,

1135
00:49:26,441 --> 00:49:28,052
but actually showing the film.

1136
00:49:28,095 --> 00:49:30,750
My inspirational
section of my life,

1137
00:49:30,793 --> 00:49:32,621
which was basically
the '70s and '80s

1138
00:49:32,665 --> 00:49:36,016
of film-- uh,
this is what it was.

1139
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:38,410
-[man] Yeah.
-This is how it was shown to me.

1140
00:49:38,453 --> 00:49:40,890
So this is how I want to see it
for the rest of my life.

1141
00:49:40,934 --> 00:49:43,241
You know, it's just awesome
to watch it go by.

1142
00:49:43,284 --> 00:49:45,417
-It's definitely arou--
-No, is like my heart's
like fluttery.

1143
00:49:45,460 --> 00:49:47,767
-[laughs]
-With the motor, right?

1144
00:49:49,638 --> 00:49:53,599
It starts... [vocalizes engine]
you know, like I just felt
like that, like, "Here we go!"

1145
00:49:53,642 --> 00:49:55,688
[inspirational music]

1146
00:49:57,603 --> 00:50:02,695
[low growl]

1147
00:50:02,738 --> 00:50:03,783
[flash clicks]

1148
00:50:03,826 --> 00:50:05,698
[tape whirring]

1149
00:50:05,741 --> 00:50:07,787
[wind softly howls]

1150
00:50:15,621 --> 00:50:19,799
It's now 11 years
since Tim League and Eric Vespe

1151
00:50:19,842 --> 00:50:23,020
from Ain't It Cool News
put together the first
cast union screening

1152
00:50:23,063 --> 00:50:26,762
at the old original Alamo
here in Austin in 2006.

1153
00:50:26,806 --> 00:50:30,070
That all started with one man,
Eric Vespe.

1154
00:50:30,114 --> 00:50:32,420
I don't think, at that time,
I'd ever seen it projected.

1155
00:50:32,464 --> 00:50:35,989
I was familiar with it.
I'd seen it, it-- honestly,

1156
00:50:36,033 --> 00:50:39,949
uh, didn't make that much
of an impression on me, I guess,

1157
00:50:39,993 --> 00:50:42,256
because I think I was
into different things.

1158
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:43,736
I just wanted
to watch the movie.

1159
00:50:43,779 --> 00:50:46,173
Eric's enthusiasm for the film,

1160
00:50:46,217 --> 00:50:47,566
it was undeniable.

1161
00:50:47,609 --> 00:50:49,394
And, uh,
he made a really strong case.

1162
00:50:49,437 --> 00:50:52,049
And, you know, frankly,
it doesn't really take much

1163
00:50:52,092 --> 00:50:54,138
for me to say yes to projects.

1164
00:50:54,181 --> 00:50:57,141
He said, "If, like, maybe
if you can find some people,

1165
00:50:57,184 --> 00:50:59,143
some of the cast and if they're
willing to come out,

1166
00:50:59,186 --> 00:51:00,970
you know, for a coach ticket,
maybe we--

1167
00:51:01,014 --> 00:51:03,277
we'll set up one screening,
you know, on one weekend."

1168
00:51:03,321 --> 00:51:06,976
This could either suck
and there was, like,
five people there,

1169
00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:08,891
and we'll just go
to Austin and have fun.

1170
00:51:08,935 --> 00:51:10,545
And so I really
have the easy part.

1171
00:51:10,589 --> 00:51:12,678
I just have
to open up the doors, uh,

1172
00:51:12,721 --> 00:51:16,029
find a film print and, uh,
and go.

1173
00:51:16,073 --> 00:51:17,596
Hi, I'm Matt Pennachi.

1174
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:20,903
-Normally a 35mm film collector.
-Adam Hulin.

1175
00:51:20,947 --> 00:51:23,254
[Matt Pennache]
And we had many, many adventures

1176
00:51:23,297 --> 00:51:26,996
going to a lot
of run-down, burned-out,

1177
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,521
closed down,
dangerous locations,

1178
00:51:29,564 --> 00:51:32,045
searching for 35mm prints
over the years.

1179
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:34,743
And, uh, one of the best
ones we ever found

1180
00:51:34,787 --> 00:51:37,224
was a print
of The Monster Squad.

1181
00:51:37,268 --> 00:51:39,574
At the time
we acquired that print,

1182
00:51:39,618 --> 00:51:42,577
we had bought it
from a collector in New Zealand.

1183
00:51:42,621 --> 00:51:45,537
That's one of the last places
in the world that prints
go to die,

1184
00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:47,713
-South Africa and New Zealand...
-The last stops

1185
00:51:47,756 --> 00:51:50,759
-on the world tour.
-...because nobody wants
to pay the postage

1186
00:51:50,803 --> 00:51:53,240
-to get them back.
-Once they get that far away,
they don't want them back.

1187
00:51:53,284 --> 00:51:56,113
[Matt]
And we started getting
bombarded with requests for it.

1188
00:51:57,070 --> 00:51:59,377
And then,
it came to our attention that

1189
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:02,684
there were no known prints
of this film left
in North America.

1190
00:52:02,728 --> 00:52:05,513
-Which we're not aware of that.
-We weren't aware
of that at all.

1191
00:52:05,557 --> 00:52:08,647
[Adam Hulin]
Amongst the myriad
of other prints we had,

1192
00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:10,388
a lot of them were sold
to the Drafthouse.

1193
00:52:10,431 --> 00:52:13,695
But even at that point,
we didn't realize how--

1194
00:52:13,739 --> 00:52:15,915
how much of a unicorn
this print was.

1195
00:52:15,958 --> 00:52:18,004
So we picked Easter Sunday,

1196
00:52:18,047 --> 00:52:19,527
they put up the tickets
online saying,

1197
00:52:19,571 --> 00:52:21,225
"Monster Squad
reunion screening,"

1198
00:52:21,268 --> 00:52:23,096
you know, director, the cast.

1199
00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:25,316
And Eric Vespe
and I got in touch.

1200
00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:27,405
My head spun for a second.
I'm like,

1201
00:52:27,448 --> 00:52:30,059
"Wait, you know this movie?"

1202
00:52:30,103 --> 00:52:32,192
[André]
And they ended up
putting together

1203
00:52:32,236 --> 00:52:35,064
what became the--
kind of the seminal event
of Monster Squad.

1204
00:52:35,108 --> 00:52:37,589
Was not expecting... [laughs]

1205
00:52:37,632 --> 00:52:40,418
...even remotely
what actually occurred.

1206
00:52:40,461 --> 00:52:43,203
-And it sold out.
-Uh, it sold out real fast.

1207
00:52:43,247 --> 00:52:46,424
I-- I think at the time, faster
than anything I've ever sold out

1208
00:52:46,467 --> 00:52:48,948
at the Alamo before, and they
added a second screening.

1209
00:52:48,991 --> 00:52:53,909
-Oh, my God, what is happening?
-And e-- and everybody was like,
"I love this movie!"

1210
00:52:53,953 --> 00:52:56,303
And I was like,
"You've seen this movie? Okay."

1211
00:52:56,347 --> 00:52:57,478
[crowd laughs]

1212
00:52:57,522 --> 00:52:59,785
It just... [mimics explosion]

1213
00:52:59,828 --> 00:53:05,312
I-- I, I couldn't believe...
[chuckles] the attention

1214
00:53:05,356 --> 00:53:07,009
that this thing was getting.

1215
00:53:07,053 --> 00:53:09,795
[Fred]
That first screening
at the Alamo,

1216
00:53:09,838 --> 00:53:12,406
was a real eye-opener.

1217
00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:15,366
And then,
to show up at the Drafthouse

1218
00:53:15,409 --> 00:53:19,326
and see the line of people

1219
00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:23,548
going around the block
waiting to get in

1220
00:53:23,591 --> 00:53:25,506
was astounding to me.

1221
00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:28,683
[André]
And it was like this amazing,

1222
00:53:28,727 --> 00:53:32,600
retro, nostalgic party jam.

1223
00:53:32,644 --> 00:53:34,602
You know,
the floodgates just opened,

1224
00:53:34,646 --> 00:53:36,996
that film played somewhere

1225
00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:39,346
every single weekend
in the month of October.

1226
00:53:39,390 --> 00:53:41,261
Half the questions were like,

1227
00:53:41,305 --> 00:53:43,655
"When is this movie coming
out on DVD?"

1228
00:53:43,698 --> 00:53:45,526
And we were all like, "Never.

1229
00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:48,747
I don't think, like, I don't
think anyone is releasing it."

1230
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:52,011
You know, the question got
asked, "Where is our DVD?"

1231
00:53:52,054 --> 00:53:53,926
But Fred, you know, said,

1232
00:53:53,969 --> 00:53:56,363
"Hey, you guys are the ones
that would make this happen.

1233
00:53:56,407 --> 00:53:59,061
Write letters, write emails,
make posts."

1234
00:53:59,105 --> 00:54:03,327
I remember being on DVD forums

1235
00:54:03,370 --> 00:54:06,199
in 2005-2006,
when I was seventeen, eighteen.

1236
00:54:06,243 --> 00:54:08,593
People being like, "Can we
get Monster Squadon DVD?"

1237
00:54:08,636 --> 00:54:10,464
I was alone in my office
at work and I was like,

1238
00:54:10,508 --> 00:54:11,770
"Okay, I'm going to leave
the charge on this,

1239
00:54:11,813 --> 00:54:12,901
this is something
that I feel like

1240
00:54:12,945 --> 00:54:14,076
needs to happen."

1241
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,774
So one of my ideas was when--

1242
00:54:15,817 --> 00:54:17,602
when I heard there was
a letter writing campaign again,

1243
00:54:17,645 --> 00:54:20,257
I wanted this to get seen,
not just throw it into a pile.

1244
00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:22,128
So I got a bunch of index cards

1245
00:54:22,171 --> 00:54:24,739
and crayons and magic
markers and stuff like that,

1246
00:54:24,783 --> 00:54:26,437
and, basically,
I would either write in

1247
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,526
some of the characters
from the movie, like Eugene,

1248
00:54:28,569 --> 00:54:30,745
like desperately
wanting this on DVD.

1249
00:54:30,789 --> 00:54:33,008
I think I wrote like
60 letters into the company,

1250
00:54:33,052 --> 00:54:36,055
just to try
to get their attention
because I was afraid that--

1251
00:54:36,098 --> 00:54:38,666
that this jam
wouldn't make it to DVD.

1252
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:40,451
I'd like to think
that it wasn't obsessive,

1253
00:54:40,494 --> 00:54:43,236
but, um, I think that, all
total, it was like 60 note cards

1254
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,890
or something like that,
that I sent.

1255
00:54:44,933 --> 00:54:49,460
So I actually had
a bootleg DVD I bought off eBay.

1256
00:54:49,503 --> 00:54:51,200
I even had a bootleg DVD.

1257
00:54:51,244 --> 00:54:53,333
So I had to go onto eBay
and get the, uh,

1258
00:54:53,377 --> 00:54:56,336
bootleg DVD that was ripped
from the Japanese LaserDisc.

1259
00:54:56,380 --> 00:54:58,033
Nowadays, everything comes out.

1260
00:54:58,077 --> 00:55:00,340
Some specialty labels
putting out every movie,

1261
00:55:00,384 --> 00:55:03,343
but there was a time, especially
when DVD was a new format,

1262
00:55:03,387 --> 00:55:05,214
that that wasn't the case.

1263
00:55:05,258 --> 00:55:07,391
And, in particular, Fred
Dekker's movies were the ones

1264
00:55:07,434 --> 00:55:09,654
that everyone talked about
saying, "When is Monster Squad

1265
00:55:09,697 --> 00:55:12,178
and Night of the Creeps
coming out on DVD?"

1266
00:55:12,221 --> 00:55:14,223
[Michael]
The fan base was
letting people know,

1267
00:55:14,267 --> 00:55:17,139
"Hey, we really want
to re-embrace this movie.
Can we own it?"

1268
00:55:17,183 --> 00:55:21,013
And Lionsgate, they were very
smart and very, very attuned

1269
00:55:21,056 --> 00:55:24,625
to what was going on out there,
and they threw it out there
and they did it right.

1270
00:55:24,669 --> 00:55:28,237
I realized that Monster Squad
had made a big impact

1271
00:55:28,281 --> 00:55:31,763
about the time it was
coming out on DVD.

1272
00:55:31,806 --> 00:55:33,808
[Michael]
No one was prepared

1273
00:55:33,852 --> 00:55:36,028
for how successful it
would end up being.

1274
00:55:37,421 --> 00:55:40,598
It was their highest
selling catalog title
that they had that year.

1275
00:55:40,641 --> 00:55:42,861
And even I was kind
of taken aback by that.
Because I was like,

1276
00:55:42,904 --> 00:55:44,863
"Wow, I knew that there were
a lot of fans out there,

1277
00:55:44,906 --> 00:55:46,168
but that can't just be

1278
00:55:46,212 --> 00:55:48,170
people my age buying this.

1279
00:55:48,214 --> 00:55:49,737
This is their kids
going for this.

1280
00:55:49,781 --> 00:55:51,478
This is a whole other
generation, you know,

1281
00:55:51,522 --> 00:55:53,741
picking up the cover and going.
"Hey, what is this?"

1282
00:55:53,785 --> 00:55:56,353
Because
of Monster Squadsuccess,

1283
00:55:56,396 --> 00:55:58,920
it ended up winning
a Saturn Award for best, uh,

1284
00:55:58,964 --> 00:56:00,748
special edition DVD that year.

1285
00:56:00,792 --> 00:56:02,576
It brought me
a lot of attention.

1286
00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:06,014
It was a big calling card
for me for a lot of years.

1287
00:56:06,058 --> 00:56:09,017
[sharp rattling]

1288
00:56:09,061 --> 00:56:12,238
[soft tense music]

1289
00:56:13,805 --> 00:56:16,373
[Eileen]
Probably the first time
I saw Brent

1290
00:56:16,416 --> 00:56:18,723
was in the grocery
store with his mother.

1291
00:56:18,766 --> 00:56:21,029
I had my daughter
Rachel with me.

1292
00:56:21,073 --> 00:56:23,467
And he kind of had
a little crush on her.

1293
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:26,339
So every time he saw her,

1294
00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:28,428
he would hide behind the produce

1295
00:56:28,472 --> 00:56:30,865
and then pop up and I thought
it was really cute.

1296
00:56:30,909 --> 00:56:34,303
[gentle inspirational music]

1297
00:56:34,347 --> 00:56:37,350
We were out on the beach
and we were on the swings

1298
00:56:37,394 --> 00:56:40,005
and he's like, "Hey,
you want to be my girlfriend?"

1299
00:56:40,048 --> 00:56:42,660
And I said,
"Okay, but what does that mean?"

1300
00:56:42,703 --> 00:56:45,532
And he said,
"I think it means we walk
around holding hands."

1301
00:56:45,576 --> 00:56:47,099
And I said,
"Okay, we could try that."

1302
00:56:51,669 --> 00:56:55,455
[Rachael]
Brent asked me to go
to a wrestling match.

1303
00:56:55,499 --> 00:56:57,849
He's like, "Don't worry.
I'm going to take you
to a nice dinner before."

1304
00:56:57,892 --> 00:57:00,591
He wanted it to be
really special.

1305
00:57:00,634 --> 00:57:02,244
[Rachael]
One of my friends
had made fun of him,

1306
00:57:02,288 --> 00:57:04,029
calling him fat.

1307
00:57:04,072 --> 00:57:06,031
Good evening, ladies and
gentlemen, welcome to our show.

1308
00:57:06,074 --> 00:57:09,077
Tonight's question,
what makes Fat Kid fat?

1309
00:57:09,121 --> 00:57:11,340
-Fat Kid?
-Get out of here, EJ.

1310
00:57:11,384 --> 00:57:13,473
And it made him so sad.

1311
00:57:13,517 --> 00:57:15,475
And I remember
he just ran out crying.

1312
00:57:19,392 --> 00:57:23,483
His defining moment,
when he levels up in this movie,

1313
00:57:23,527 --> 00:57:25,006
I mean, that's--

1314
00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:28,401
that's really that--
the nerd justice.

1315
00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:30,751
"My name is Horace."

1316
00:57:30,795 --> 00:57:34,407
[dramatic music]

1317
00:57:34,451 --> 00:57:37,410
Hey, Fat Kid, good job.

1318
00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:39,978
My name is Horace.

1319
00:57:40,021 --> 00:57:41,719
[gun rattles]

1320
00:57:41,762 --> 00:57:44,156
Having him go through
that experience in real life,

1321
00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:47,202
and then having to get do--
to do that in the movie
was pretty cool to see.

1322
00:57:47,246 --> 00:57:49,727
Brent Chalem
passed away in 1997.

1323
00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:55,559
It's a big hole that he can't
experience it himself

1324
00:57:55,602 --> 00:57:58,605
and or have great crowds
like Alamo crowds

1325
00:57:58,649 --> 00:58:01,216
show him that, like,
Ashley said it the other day,

1326
00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:03,044
it's like he's got
the best arch in the movie.

1327
00:58:03,958 --> 00:58:06,483
Oh. Um, can you go really quick?

1328
00:58:06,526 --> 00:58:07,571
I'm still, like,
freaking out about--

1329
00:58:07,614 --> 00:58:09,355
[softly crying] about Brent--

1330
00:58:09,398 --> 00:58:11,096
[Shawn]
When I was growing up,
I was Horace.

1331
00:58:11,139 --> 00:58:14,621
I was a fat kid in Town
and Country surf and skate shirts.

1332
00:58:14,665 --> 00:58:16,144
I didn't find out
the Brent passed away

1333
00:58:16,188 --> 00:58:18,756
until the-- the DVD push.

1334
00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:23,064
I think mainly because I felt
so connected to him

1335
00:58:23,108 --> 00:58:25,371
that now that the DVD was coming
out and people were, like,

1336
00:58:25,414 --> 00:58:27,721
loving this and it was on huge
news sites and everything,

1337
00:58:27,765 --> 00:58:31,377
it's like, you know,
this is where it would pay off.

1338
00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:34,119
And I thought,
"Man, I'm never going
to get to meet that guy."

1339
00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:38,776
And, um, you know, it's--
it's really sad and upsetting

1340
00:58:38,819 --> 00:58:40,255
that he couldn't
be here for this.

1341
00:58:40,299 --> 00:58:42,301
[Marsha]
It was wintertime and...

1342
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,825
we got a call.

1343
00:58:45,739 --> 00:58:47,567
He got pneumonia.

1344
00:58:47,611 --> 00:58:50,788
He went to a local hospital
and after two or three days,

1345
00:58:50,831 --> 00:58:54,052
instead of waiting
till he was completely healed,

1346
00:58:54,095 --> 00:58:58,360
they sent him home
with oxygen in his nose,

1347
00:58:58,404 --> 00:59:01,320
and it became
dislodged that night.

1348
00:59:01,363 --> 00:59:04,715
[Eileen]
He couldn't breathe, so they
took him back to the hospital

1349
00:59:04,758 --> 00:59:06,760
in the emergency room.

1350
00:59:06,804 --> 00:59:09,763
And, unfortunately, they did
something in the emergency room

1351
00:59:09,807 --> 00:59:11,243
that caused his death.

1352
00:59:11,286 --> 00:59:15,682
They gave him the wrong...
medication

1353
00:59:15,726 --> 00:59:18,163
for an asthmatic
and he went into a coma.

1354
00:59:18,206 --> 00:59:19,991
We, um, packed up right away.

1355
00:59:20,034 --> 00:59:23,081
I didn't realize how--
how serious it was.

1356
00:59:23,124 --> 00:59:27,955
We all sat with him. We sat
with him in the intensive care.

1357
00:59:27,999 --> 00:59:31,393
I do remember, though, the
doctors giving us a time period.

1358
00:59:31,437 --> 00:59:34,396
It was like, "He's got
about three or four hours

1359
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,268
and he's going to pass,
so you need to go in there

1360
00:59:36,311 --> 00:59:37,399
and you need to say goodbye."

1361
00:59:39,097 --> 00:59:45,146
Then he-- he passed
and we were all so upset.

1362
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:48,628
I kind of went into a--
a crazy time after that.

1363
00:59:48,672 --> 00:59:52,414
I got panic attacks and just--
it was not a good time

1364
00:59:52,458 --> 00:59:54,591
and just--
that really affected me,

1365
00:59:54,634 --> 00:59:56,897
um, knowing that he wasn't
there anymore.

1366
00:59:59,770 --> 01:00:02,207
-[Marsha] I look the same.
This is me.
-That's after hair.

1367
01:00:02,250 --> 01:00:04,601
-That's after the hair?
Yes. Yeah?
-Yes. About a year after.

1368
01:00:04,644 --> 01:00:06,907
[soft laughs]

1369
01:00:07,778 --> 01:00:12,043
And this, that's a picture
of Betty Ann, his mom,

1370
01:00:12,086 --> 01:00:16,830
and Brent and always the dog
and this-- it was an article

1371
01:00:16,874 --> 01:00:19,920
that they posted
about all his commercial time,

1372
01:00:19,964 --> 01:00:21,705
and the commercials
that he was in.

1373
01:00:21,748 --> 01:00:24,011
When he went
to the first interview,

1374
01:00:24,055 --> 01:00:25,665
it was because
his parents said no.

1375
01:00:25,709 --> 01:00:28,015
A lot of his friends
were extras in film.

1376
01:00:28,059 --> 01:00:29,887
He called up.

1377
01:00:29,930 --> 01:00:32,193
He looked up
the number and called up

1378
01:00:32,237 --> 01:00:33,891
to get himself an interview.

1379
01:00:33,934 --> 01:00:36,154
And they wrote him back.

1380
01:00:36,197 --> 01:00:38,112
He filled out the form himself,

1381
01:00:38,156 --> 01:00:39,461
he was seven years old.

1382
01:00:39,505 --> 01:00:41,115
And when I got the call

1383
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:43,378
that they were going
to be doing this documentary

1384
01:00:43,422 --> 01:00:44,728
on Monster Squad,

1385
01:00:44,771 --> 01:00:46,294
I went, "Wow.

1386
01:00:46,338 --> 01:00:48,470
Thirty years later
and then I found out

1387
01:00:48,514 --> 01:00:50,037
what a following it has.

1388
01:00:50,081 --> 01:00:53,606
And one of the biggest
people that they remember

1389
01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:55,477
is the lines that Brent said."

1390
01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:59,786
I think I'm more sad now
than I was then.

1391
01:01:01,745 --> 01:01:05,096
It was so rad for him to go
on these things, you know.

1392
01:01:05,139 --> 01:01:07,228
I'm sad that he's missed out
on all of this

1393
01:01:07,272 --> 01:01:12,190
because I think that
he would've really enjoyed this

1394
01:01:12,233 --> 01:01:14,714
and it--
and people would've loved him.

1395
01:01:14,758 --> 01:01:16,020
There's a big piece missing.

1396
01:01:17,935 --> 01:01:21,155
You know, one of the characters
that really connected
and resonates

1397
01:01:21,199 --> 01:01:24,681
with the majority
of the fans is not around...

1398
01:01:26,334 --> 01:01:27,640
to experience that.

1399
01:01:29,076 --> 01:01:32,123
That really is
the most unfortunate...

1400
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,867
thing that we could
possibly have

1401
01:01:36,910 --> 01:01:40,000
in this amazing
resurgence of this movie.

1402
01:01:40,044 --> 01:01:42,350
One, they can't see him,

1403
01:01:42,394 --> 01:01:45,049
and two,
he can't be a part of that.

1404
01:01:45,092 --> 01:01:48,879
[all together]
"My name is Horace."

1405
01:01:48,922 --> 01:01:51,969
-[André] Awesome.
-[crowd cheers and applauds]

1406
01:01:55,537 --> 01:01:58,410
And everybody that related
to Horace, right?

1407
01:01:58,453 --> 01:02:00,804
Everybody that related
to getting their ass kicked

1408
01:02:00,847 --> 01:02:03,023
loved the moment where
he pumps the shotgun

1409
01:02:03,067 --> 01:02:05,504
and proves he's
the only one of these kids
with any fucking balls.

1410
01:02:05,547 --> 01:02:08,289
Like, that's incredible wish
fulfillment as a kid,

1411
01:02:08,333 --> 01:02:11,031
it's why I wanted to be
a part of that movie so hard.

1412
01:02:11,075 --> 01:02:13,164
That is so iconic,

1413
01:02:13,207 --> 01:02:15,470
seeing a kid cock a shotgun

1414
01:02:15,514 --> 01:02:17,037
and blow away Gillman.

1415
01:02:17,081 --> 01:02:19,387
It cuts from the wide shot
to the close shot,

1416
01:02:19,431 --> 01:02:21,955
where he goes, "My name...
[vocalizes shotgun] is Horace."

1417
01:02:21,999 --> 01:02:24,262
And the crowd
went fucking apeshit.

1418
01:02:24,305 --> 01:02:27,526
I aspire to do something
that good in a movie someday

1419
01:02:27,569 --> 01:02:30,224
because I just think that
that's pure cinema.

1420
01:02:30,268 --> 01:02:31,922
You just don't
get better than that.

1421
01:02:31,965 --> 01:02:34,054
That was one of those
moments that made me think,

1422
01:02:34,098 --> 01:02:37,188
like, "I want to be able
to do that to an audience."

1423
01:02:37,231 --> 01:02:38,755
People are going
to be saying that

1424
01:02:38,798 --> 01:02:40,669
for thousands of years.

1425
01:02:40,713 --> 01:02:43,716
And it's such a fucking travesty

1426
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,805
that Brent doesn't get
to see that.

1427
01:02:45,849 --> 01:02:48,895
He definitely knows, like,
he's definitely watching
all this

1428
01:02:48,939 --> 01:02:51,637
and, um, he-- he's there.

1429
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,596
Brent is living on
through this legacy.

1430
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,903
He did it with his whole heart,

1431
01:02:56,947 --> 01:03:01,821
and he brought life even
to a monster movie. [chuckles]

1432
01:03:01,865 --> 01:03:03,910
[gentle inspirational music]

1433
01:03:06,043 --> 01:03:08,523
[tense music]

1434
01:03:19,273 --> 01:03:23,495
[André]
The Alamo called me and said,
would I be interested in doing

1435
01:03:23,538 --> 01:03:26,106
a 30th anniversary tour.

1436
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:30,197
We got Ryan and Ashley,
and Ashley's baby.

1437
01:03:30,241 --> 01:03:33,810
We ended up doing
17 cities in 17 days.

1438
01:03:33,853 --> 01:03:37,422
And half of those had dual
screenings in the same night.

1439
01:03:37,465 --> 01:03:39,163
[Ryan]
I knew what to expect
with the screenings.

1440
01:03:39,206 --> 01:03:40,817
We-- we knew
there was going to be QandA

1441
01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:41,905
and questions,
we're going to meet people.

1442
01:03:41,948 --> 01:03:44,168
The traveling part... [chuckles]

1443
01:03:44,211 --> 01:03:47,867
...of the tour was a whirlwind.

1444
01:03:47,911 --> 01:03:49,913
We know what town we're in?

1445
01:03:49,956 --> 01:03:51,653
-[Ashely] Where are we?
[chuckles]
-[André] Yeah.

1446
01:03:51,697 --> 01:03:53,177
Let's look at--
We could look on the--

1447
01:03:53,220 --> 01:03:54,831
There is a flip-flop
festival around here.

1448
01:03:54,874 --> 01:03:58,182
[André chuckles]
That's a... [unintelligible].

1449
01:03:58,225 --> 01:04:00,619
-[Ashley] Cool!
-See it?

1450
01:04:00,662 --> 01:04:02,229
-[Ashely] No.
-[André] Hang-- Okay, now look.

1451
01:04:02,273 --> 01:04:03,665
-Now look at the sun.
-Wha--

1452
01:04:03,709 --> 01:04:05,276
Wait until that cloud gets back.

1453
01:04:05,319 --> 01:04:07,060
-I'm blind.
-[chuckles]

1454
01:04:07,104 --> 01:04:09,236
-[hissing]
-[mimicking monsters]

1455
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,847
[soft laughs]

1456
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:12,761
Coming out to test
for Monster Squad,

1457
01:04:12,805 --> 01:04:15,025
it was probably like the third
time I've been in California,

1458
01:04:15,068 --> 01:04:18,942
but it really cemented that
idea that, if you want to act,

1459
01:04:18,985 --> 01:04:20,421
LA is the place to be.

1460
01:04:20,465 --> 01:04:22,032
You know,
about a year or two after that,

1461
01:04:22,075 --> 01:04:23,250
he ended up moving to LA,

1462
01:04:23,294 --> 01:04:24,425
he's had great success

1463
01:04:24,469 --> 01:04:26,601
because he's an intelligent,

1464
01:04:26,645 --> 01:04:28,125
very talented individual.

1465
01:04:28,168 --> 01:04:29,474
You know,
The Monster Squad,you know,

1466
01:04:29,517 --> 01:04:30,605
it's really come
full circle for me.

1467
01:04:30,649 --> 01:04:31,911
You know, I get to work

1468
01:04:31,955 --> 01:04:33,782
with Shane Mahan
and John Rosengrant

1469
01:04:33,826 --> 01:04:35,567
on a-- on a beautiful movie,
The Shape of Water.

1470
01:04:35,610 --> 01:04:37,525
Only seeing him now
is making me realize that,

1471
01:04:37,569 --> 01:04:39,484
"Yeah, I know all those guys,"

1472
01:04:39,527 --> 01:04:41,094
and I got André Gower
right here, so.

1473
01:04:41,138 --> 01:04:42,748
[André]
He designed and fabricated

1474
01:04:42,791 --> 01:04:44,924
the amphibian man
for The Shape of Water.

1475
01:04:44,968 --> 01:04:46,970
And Mike Hill to create
that aesthetic

1476
01:04:47,013 --> 01:04:49,798
is just a fascinating story
with someone who, as a kid,

1477
01:04:49,842 --> 01:04:51,496
saw The Monster Squad
in the theaters.

1478
01:04:51,539 --> 01:04:53,890
This is a zine I did,
it's called I heart Rudy,

1479
01:04:53,933 --> 01:04:57,937
it's about Rudy
and also about the Squad.

1480
01:04:57,981 --> 01:04:59,678
You can say that

1481
01:05:00,592 --> 01:05:04,639
the movie Monster Squad
and the horror genre in general

1482
01:05:04,683 --> 01:05:07,860
is a boys club and I wanted
to get that girl's perspective.

1483
01:05:07,904 --> 01:05:12,821
And I also modeled it
after the '80s teeny bopper
magazines of the day,

1484
01:05:12,865 --> 01:05:15,563
like Bop, TeenBeat, Big Bopper.

1485
01:05:15,607 --> 01:05:19,437
It was almost like I had
stumbled upon Monster Squad,

1486
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,744
like I found a bag of cash
in the street or something,

1487
01:05:22,788 --> 01:05:24,616
and no one else
seemed to know about it.

1488
01:05:24,659 --> 01:05:27,358
That's definitely why
I started Friday Night Frights.

1489
01:05:27,401 --> 01:05:30,578
I kind of just wanted to be
like a Johnny Appleseed
of horror movies.

1490
01:05:30,622 --> 01:05:32,711
In some ways,
it was fun to come full circle

1491
01:05:32,754 --> 01:05:35,932
and show Monster Squad
to a sold-out crowd

1492
01:05:35,975 --> 01:05:38,978
here at Friday Night Frights
with Fred Dekker there

1493
01:05:39,022 --> 01:05:42,677
to be able to appreciate the
fact that all these years later,

1494
01:05:42,721 --> 01:05:44,505
people still love his movie.

1495
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:45,854
-[Wolfman growls loudly]
-[boy yells]

1496
01:05:45,898 --> 01:05:47,117
[Horace shouts]
Run!

1497
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,814
-Kick him in the nards!
-Run!

1498
01:05:48,857 --> 01:05:50,903
-Kick him in the nards!
-He doesn't have nards!

1499
01:05:50,947 --> 01:05:52,687
You know,
The Goldbergsis a comedy,

1500
01:05:52,731 --> 01:05:54,994
essentially,
the way I pitched it was

1501
01:05:55,038 --> 01:05:56,691
a movie geek
growing up in the '80s.

1502
01:05:56,735 --> 01:05:59,651
When I saw Monster Squad,
I think--

1503
01:05:59,694 --> 01:06:01,870
outside
of some Mel Brooks jokes,

1504
01:06:01,914 --> 01:06:04,612
the idea that Wolfman has nards

1505
01:06:04,656 --> 01:06:08,442
was so crazy-funny to me.

1506
01:06:08,486 --> 01:06:12,794
And it's just
one of those jokes that kind
of defined my sense of humor.

1507
01:06:12,838 --> 01:06:14,666
Do it, do it!

1508
01:06:14,709 --> 01:06:16,624
[Horace grunts]

1509
01:06:16,668 --> 01:06:18,452
Wolfman's got nards!

1510
01:06:18,496 --> 01:06:20,498
Come on! Come on!

1511
01:06:20,541 --> 01:06:22,021
-[Wolfman growls]
-[Horace whimpers]

1512
01:06:22,065 --> 01:06:23,588
Every character on my show

1513
01:06:23,631 --> 01:06:26,069
is constantly going nards
in some sort

1514
01:06:26,112 --> 01:06:28,897
because I taught it to everyone
through The Monster Squad.

1515
01:06:28,941 --> 01:06:31,988
What was that? Punch
your brother in the nards?

1516
01:06:32,031 --> 01:06:34,642
Good luck and cover your nards.

1517
01:06:34,686 --> 01:06:35,904
Nards, definitely the nards.

1518
01:06:35,948 --> 01:06:37,036
Oh, nards.

1519
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,211
All you did was keep us in line

1520
01:06:38,255 --> 01:06:39,169
and let us get hit in the nose,

1521
01:06:39,212 --> 01:06:40,039
head, face and nards.

1522
01:06:40,083 --> 01:06:41,127
In the nards!

1523
01:06:41,171 --> 01:06:42,389
Everybody's just standing around

1524
01:06:42,433 --> 01:06:43,912
scratching their nards.

1525
01:06:43,956 --> 01:06:46,350
How many words for nards
do you people know?

1526
01:06:46,393 --> 01:06:48,787
And people recognize,
"Oh, that's The Monster Squad."

1527
01:06:48,830 --> 01:06:53,357
So this show was about giving
a shout out to the movies that--
that shaped us.

1528
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,011
Right now, every day I wake up

1529
01:06:55,054 --> 01:06:57,230
and I go and make a show

1530
01:06:57,274 --> 01:06:59,493
called Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles.

1531
01:06:59,537 --> 01:07:01,539
And for me,
the biggest thing it does is

1532
01:07:01,582 --> 01:07:02,931
it allows me to have...

1533
01:07:03,889 --> 01:07:05,804
kind of a squad of four heroes

1534
01:07:05,847 --> 01:07:08,111
just beat up
and kill monsters every week.

1535
01:07:08,154 --> 01:07:11,114
[chuckles] It's pretty simple.

1536
01:07:11,157 --> 01:07:14,117
Oh, that love of genre
and movies

1537
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,641
led me to work at a video store.

1538
01:07:16,684 --> 01:07:18,338
And then,
working at the video store,

1539
01:07:18,382 --> 01:07:20,036
it was cool because I got
to talk about movies.

1540
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:21,907
And then, one day,
you're in high school

1541
01:07:21,950 --> 01:07:23,996
and they say, "What do you want
to do with your life?"

1542
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,085
And you've been watching
The Monster Squad
and these movies,

1543
01:07:26,129 --> 01:07:27,652
you know, "I want to get paid
to watch movies."

1544
01:07:27,695 --> 01:07:29,654
"How do you get paid
to watch movies?"

1545
01:07:29,697 --> 01:07:31,090
"Uh, well,
you become a film critic."

1546
01:07:31,134 --> 01:07:33,092
Certainly Monster Squadwa--

1547
01:07:33,136 --> 01:07:35,181
was a pretty big influence
on Beyond The Gates,

1548
01:07:35,225 --> 01:07:38,706
like, kind of the three
touchstones for it to pour.

1549
01:07:38,750 --> 01:07:41,753
Phantasm,
The Gateand Monster Squad.

1550
01:07:41,796 --> 01:07:43,711
Knights of Badassdom
is definitely

1551
01:07:43,755 --> 01:07:47,106
one of the influences that
was derived from Monster Squad

1552
01:07:47,150 --> 01:07:49,543
for better for worse, depending
on if you've seen the movie.

1553
01:07:49,587 --> 01:07:51,980
I wanted to make the sequel

1554
01:07:52,024 --> 01:07:54,418
to The Monster Squad
or the sequel to The Goonies

1555
01:07:54,461 --> 01:07:57,899
where we've all seen them now
grown up 20, 30 years later.

1556
01:07:57,943 --> 01:08:00,337
I wanted to see what--
what all these kids did.

1557
01:08:00,380 --> 01:08:02,339
I had a movie night with my cast

1558
01:08:02,382 --> 01:08:04,602
and we watched An American Werewolf in London,

1559
01:08:05,603 --> 01:08:07,561
Goonies, Monster Squad.

1560
01:08:07,605 --> 01:08:09,911
Sitting down with Steve Zahn
and Peter Dinklage

1561
01:08:09,955 --> 01:08:12,131
watching The Monster Squad--
Yeah, picture that one.

1562
01:08:12,175 --> 01:08:17,136
I had a VHS recording
of Monster Squadfrom HBO
growing up

1563
01:08:17,180 --> 01:08:19,269
and I used
to watch it every day.

1564
01:08:19,312 --> 01:08:22,054
And, um,
that sparked my interest

1565
01:08:22,098 --> 01:08:24,056
in the classic monsters,

1566
01:08:24,926 --> 01:08:27,103
and introduced me
to practical effects

1567
01:08:27,146 --> 01:08:29,931
and creature effects and--
and Stan Winston.

1568
01:08:29,975 --> 01:08:32,760
And I started professionally
sculpting toys,

1569
01:08:32,804 --> 01:08:35,720
the Creature From The
Black Lagoonspecifically,

1570
01:08:35,763 --> 01:08:37,330
um, when I was 15.

1571
01:08:37,374 --> 01:08:39,680
And from that,
it just led me to a career

1572
01:08:39,724 --> 01:08:43,554
of creating monsters
for movies for 15 years now.

1573
01:08:43,597 --> 01:08:45,251
When I think about the just--

1574
01:08:45,295 --> 01:08:47,384
just how important
the Gillman was to me,

1575
01:08:47,427 --> 01:08:50,474
my career was
always about the monster,

1576
01:08:50,517 --> 01:08:52,476
and I didn't know
that this would be such a--

1577
01:08:52,519 --> 01:08:54,391
a formative beginning
because, uh,

1578
01:08:54,434 --> 01:08:56,349
it showed a--
it showed that I could do it.

1579
01:08:56,393 --> 01:08:58,612
It showed tha-- that I was
respected for what I did

1580
01:08:58,656 --> 01:09:02,094
which meant I could
continue to do more of it
and be in other suits.

1581
01:09:02,138 --> 01:09:05,228
I wonder, had I not done that,
had I not gotten over that,

1582
01:09:05,271 --> 01:09:08,187
that, that feeling of,
"Am I good enough to do this?"

1583
01:09:08,231 --> 01:09:11,408
Had I not done it early enough,
I would still be
making monsters,

1584
01:09:11,451 --> 01:09:13,801
bu-- but it wouldn't feel
as complete to me as it is,

1585
01:09:13,845 --> 01:09:18,023
being able to-- to be
the monster at the other end
of the schedule.

1586
01:09:18,066 --> 01:09:21,505
[Adam Green]
I think I try to put
as much of myself

1587
01:09:21,548 --> 01:09:24,943
into the characters
that I write.

1588
01:09:24,986 --> 01:09:27,815
And it all goes back
to the movies I saw

1589
01:09:27,859 --> 01:09:31,123
when I was eight, nine,
ten, 11, 12,

1590
01:09:31,167 --> 01:09:34,779
uh, an-- and thinking,
"I know these kids,
I'm one of these kids."

1591
01:09:34,822 --> 01:09:39,218
And, uh, that's-- that's how
those movies spoke to me.

1592
01:09:39,262 --> 01:09:42,352
I mean, I-- I think I--
I probably did try to start

1593
01:09:42,395 --> 01:09:44,658
my own Monster Squad
at one point.

1594
01:09:44,702 --> 01:09:48,009
What I do now is, every
Wednesday night, no matter what,

1595
01:09:48,053 --> 01:09:51,883
we come here into this,
you know, sanctuary.

1596
01:09:53,928 --> 01:09:58,455
And, you know, we are surrounded
by monsters and some robots.

1597
01:09:59,717 --> 01:10:01,632
We'll build model kits,
we'll draw.

1598
01:10:03,111 --> 01:10:06,506
And I think
it's important because it's--

1599
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:09,553
it's a chance for us to kind
of creatively take a breath

1600
01:10:09,596 --> 01:10:11,424
away from the things

1601
01:10:11,468 --> 01:10:13,513
that we do on a daily basis.

1602
01:10:13,557 --> 01:10:16,603
And for me, it's tricky
because I have a creative job,

1603
01:10:16,647 --> 01:10:20,477
but I-- I have to understand
not to take that for granted,

1604
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,349
and I think this is kind
of a nice counterbalance.

1605
01:10:23,393 --> 01:10:25,351
-Like, in 1990,
it was the first time I saw...
-[man] Yeah.

1606
01:10:25,395 --> 01:10:27,745
...Monster Squad,I'd just
drawn an invite, you go,

1607
01:10:27,788 --> 01:10:30,269
-"What is this? What am I
even watching?" It was so good.
-Yeah.

1608
01:10:31,314 --> 01:10:33,577
[Ciro]
Like, me coming here and doing
something that's almost,

1609
01:10:33,620 --> 01:10:35,622
in a way, creatively selfish,

1610
01:10:35,666 --> 01:10:39,931
allows me to go back to work,
and it fuels that work.

1611
01:10:39,974 --> 01:10:42,629
[inspirational music]

1612
01:10:54,511 --> 01:10:57,209
An-- and I'm with a bunch
of goofy guys in here,
and we-- and, you know,

1613
01:10:57,253 --> 01:11:00,256
we're laughing and stuff
like that about off things
here and there,

1614
01:11:00,299 --> 01:11:03,998
but, at the same time,
it's like we are
very fueled visually

1615
01:11:04,042 --> 01:11:09,526
as-- as artists.
This place almost is
purposefully saturating me

1616
01:11:09,569 --> 01:11:12,311
with that stuff
and reminding me visually.

1617
01:11:12,355 --> 01:11:14,835
I think the dream was always to,
you know,

1618
01:11:14,879 --> 01:11:17,316
"Hey, let's have a--
let's have a monster club.

1619
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,013
Like,
no one else can come to this."

1620
01:11:19,057 --> 01:11:21,407
But that's what you do
when you're in your 40's.

1621
01:11:21,451 --> 01:11:23,191
You can't do that in your 30's.

1622
01:11:23,235 --> 01:11:24,758
-[interviewer] No?
-[Ciro] Not really.

1623
01:11:30,677 --> 01:11:33,289
[calm music]

1624
01:11:44,387 --> 01:11:46,911
[André]
All right. So we're waiting
for the administrator

1625
01:11:46,954 --> 01:11:48,434
who we just spoke to
to see if, um,

1626
01:11:48,478 --> 01:11:50,480
we can get permission
to take the crew in

1627
01:11:50,523 --> 01:11:53,526
and bring us in there to go
surprise Douglas and say hi.

1628
01:11:53,570 --> 01:11:56,660
That's the kid for the--
that didn't come

1629
01:11:56,703 --> 01:11:58,488
yesterday to the screening.

1630
01:11:58,531 --> 01:12:00,272
Hopefully we can get
in there and give him

1631
01:12:00,316 --> 01:12:02,056
-a little...
-[Ashley] Surprise!

1632
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:03,319
...A little surprise.

1633
01:12:04,407 --> 01:12:05,451
[knocks on the door]

1634
01:12:05,495 --> 01:12:08,498
[people laughing]

1635
01:12:08,541 --> 01:12:10,717
You mind if we come in
and hang out for a little bit?

1636
01:12:10,761 --> 01:12:12,893
You sure? We got a crew with us,
you're fine with that?

1637
01:12:13,894 --> 01:12:15,809
How you doing?
I'm going to give you that.

1638
01:12:17,420 --> 01:12:20,031
-How you feeling?
So, this is Douglas.
-Hey, buddy.

1639
01:12:20,074 --> 01:12:22,250
-Nice to see, I'm Ryan. Here.
-[woman] Douglas.

1640
01:12:22,294 --> 01:12:24,035
Oh, we taught you could
make it last night, man.

1641
01:12:24,078 --> 01:12:26,820
Oh, I'm-- I'm sorry too,
I wanted to, but--

1642
01:12:26,864 --> 01:12:30,346
I'd rather you be with us than--
I'd rather you be with us
than in here, yeah.

1643
01:12:30,389 --> 01:12:31,999
You feeling better, though,
a little bit or...

1644
01:12:32,043 --> 01:12:33,914
-Uh, getting there.
-Okay, good.

1645
01:12:33,958 --> 01:12:35,829
[woman]
He was so upset when he heard
he wouldn't get--

1646
01:12:35,873 --> 01:12:37,744
I know, that's why
we had to come say hi.

1647
01:12:37,788 --> 01:12:40,312
Yeah, we came to, uh,
represent a little bit.

1648
01:12:41,357 --> 01:12:44,882
For me, it's beyond words.
I mean, it's--

1649
01:12:44,925 --> 01:12:48,581
The movie's been a part--
a huge part of my life. Uh--

1650
01:12:49,582 --> 01:12:51,976
And you all are standing right
in front of me. I don't know.

1651
01:12:52,019 --> 01:12:54,195
I don't really know
what to say about that. Yeah.

1652
01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:56,894
How old were you when you
first saw it, you remember?

1653
01:12:56,937 --> 01:13:00,201
Oh, man, probably,
probably five,

1654
01:13:00,245 --> 01:13:01,812
-maybe.
-Wow, you started early.

1655
01:13:01,855 --> 01:13:03,509
-Yeah, very early.
-All right, I like that.

1656
01:13:03,553 --> 01:13:05,685
Yeah, me and Louise sat in boxes

1657
01:13:05,729 --> 01:13:07,470
and watch it in front of the TV.

1658
01:13:07,513 --> 01:13:09,820
-[chuckles]
-You used to sit
up late and watch it,

1659
01:13:09,863 --> 01:13:12,518
-together, you used
to watch it together.
-[Louise] Oh, yeah.

1660
01:13:13,867 --> 01:13:17,436
I think Monster Squadis
a movie about outcasts

1661
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:20,831
and y-- if you identified
with that movie,

1662
01:13:20,874 --> 01:13:22,485
you're an outcast.

1663
01:13:22,528 --> 01:13:25,052
It's so sweet.
It's just so sweet.

1664
01:13:25,096 --> 01:13:27,881
Phoebe really wanting
Frankenstein's monster to stay,

1665
01:13:27,925 --> 01:13:31,102
and like, "Don't go!"
And she gives him her, like,

1666
01:13:31,145 --> 01:13:33,626
stuffed animal,
her little dog, that, like,

1667
01:13:33,670 --> 01:13:35,846
she has with her
the entire time.

1668
01:13:35,889 --> 01:13:38,457
It's on her belt, it's always
with her, keeping her safe.

1669
01:13:38,501 --> 01:13:42,940
And so, she throws out to him
so he's safe and limbo like--

1670
01:13:42,983 --> 01:13:46,247
Oh, I'm going to cry, I am
crying. It's-- it's the best.

1671
01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:50,513
I want to call it, you know,
th-- the--

1672
01:13:50,556 --> 01:13:52,645
I don't even know,
I don't have a word to describe

1673
01:13:52,689 --> 01:13:54,299
what it means to our family.

1674
01:13:54,342 --> 01:13:56,127
How the movie plays
into my life?

1675
01:13:56,170 --> 01:13:58,651
I was 12. My name is Shawn.

1676
01:13:58,695 --> 01:14:01,480
I got in trouble for drawing
in class, but also,

1677
01:14:01,524 --> 01:14:04,483
five months
before the movie opens,

1678
01:14:04,527 --> 01:14:06,833
um, I'd been diagnosed with HIV.

1679
01:14:06,877 --> 01:14:08,879
And it was devastating
for me and my family.

1680
01:14:08,922 --> 01:14:10,184
I was kicked out of school.

1681
01:14:11,055 --> 01:14:13,187
[sighs] You know.

1682
01:14:13,231 --> 01:14:16,190
Leaving Ecuador at 13 years old
was really tough

1683
01:14:16,234 --> 01:14:18,932
because it was like going
from one planet to another.

1684
01:14:18,976 --> 01:14:22,675
I know for me, personally,
having a physical disability,

1685
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:25,417
childhood wasn't
always the easiest.

1686
01:14:25,461 --> 01:14:29,508
I never really felt like
I fit in anywhere.

1687
01:14:29,552 --> 01:14:33,556
For my situation
as an only child
and being more of an introvert,

1688
01:14:33,599 --> 01:14:36,994
I would usually latch on
to one or two people,

1689
01:14:37,037 --> 01:14:38,996
and so I'd have
one or two close friends.

1690
01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:42,260
I remember that night, hearing
about this monster movie,

1691
01:14:42,303 --> 01:14:44,610
small town in Waynesboro,
Virginia.

1692
01:14:44,654 --> 01:14:47,134
And me being able to go
with my friends and sit there,

1693
01:14:47,178 --> 01:14:49,180
and get lost in the movie,

1694
01:14:49,223 --> 01:14:53,358
and forget about
some of the things that,
you know, where happening.

1695
01:14:53,401 --> 01:14:55,534
Monster Squad,for me,
was just kind of sort of, like,

1696
01:14:55,578 --> 01:14:58,189
it was that group
of friends that I needed

1697
01:14:58,232 --> 01:15:01,105
when I kind of sort of didn't
have friends at the time.

1698
01:15:01,148 --> 01:15:05,675
There's a comfort to it.
And so, that emotional comfort
of coming home.

1699
01:15:05,718 --> 01:15:07,894
It just sort
of gives you a refresher.

1700
01:15:07,938 --> 01:15:11,507
Monster Squad
definitely helped me
at a time when I needed it.

1701
01:15:11,550 --> 01:15:14,553
I blocked out a lot of that
time period, but I remember,

1702
01:15:14,597 --> 01:15:17,774
I remember going to that movie
and sitting there.

1703
01:15:17,817 --> 01:15:20,820
I felt normal again, you know,
I didn't feel like a monster.

1704
01:15:20,864 --> 01:15:23,780
And I like
that I have that memory.

1705
01:15:23,823 --> 01:15:26,130
Movies like Monster Squad,um,

1706
01:15:26,173 --> 01:15:29,829
in a-- in a weird way
kind of gave me that,

1707
01:15:29,873 --> 01:15:33,398
um, safe net
when I didn't feel safe.

1708
01:15:33,441 --> 01:15:35,356
It's just so emotional, like,

1709
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,272
this movie has been
with me forever.

1710
01:15:38,316 --> 01:15:41,188
So, it's just something
that I've always known,

1711
01:15:41,232 --> 01:15:43,103
I could always go back to it.

1712
01:15:43,147 --> 01:15:44,409
It's helped me through
some really hard times,

1713
01:15:44,452 --> 01:15:46,063
just being able to, like,

1714
01:15:46,106 --> 01:15:49,457
take a break
and just smile and, like,

1715
01:15:49,501 --> 01:15:50,763
feel accepted.

1716
01:15:52,069 --> 01:15:52,939
So...

1717
01:15:55,899 --> 01:15:57,944
[soft inspirational music]

1718
01:16:06,387 --> 01:16:07,258
[softly grunts]

1719
01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:14,091
How did Monster Squad
affect my life personally?

1720
01:16:14,134 --> 01:16:17,355
Um, I think it's my best movie.

1721
01:16:17,398 --> 01:16:22,621
I think it's reached the widest
audience of anything, uh,

1722
01:16:22,665 --> 01:16:24,536
that I've done as a director.

1723
01:16:25,624 --> 01:16:31,108
And it's sort of killed
my career for a period of time.

1724
01:16:32,326 --> 01:16:36,940
I think it's probably
my epithet--

1725
01:16:36,983 --> 01:16:38,289
it's probably going
to be on my...

1726
01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,161
gravestone, and I'm...

1727
01:16:42,423 --> 01:16:43,686
ambivalent about that.

1728
01:16:44,643 --> 01:16:47,951
The analogy I make is,
you do a piano concerto

1729
01:16:48,865 --> 01:16:50,954
in front of an audience,

1730
01:16:50,997 --> 01:16:53,870
and a couple people applaud
and then they leave.

1731
01:16:53,913 --> 01:16:55,567
And then, 20 years later,

1732
01:16:55,611 --> 01:16:57,177
somebody comes up to you
in the street and goes,

1733
01:16:58,048 --> 01:17:01,965
"I saw that piano concerto
you did. That was incredible."

1734
01:17:02,008 --> 01:17:03,793
There's such a disconnect

1735
01:17:04,794 --> 01:17:08,058
from what you did
to the response

1736
01:17:08,101 --> 01:17:11,409
that it's really hard
to codify emotionally.

1737
01:17:11,452 --> 01:17:13,716
It's like shooting
a basket in 1987

1738
01:17:13,759 --> 01:17:16,936
and then it doesn't
go in until 2006.

1739
01:17:16,980 --> 01:17:18,677
That's-- that's weird.

1740
01:17:18,721 --> 01:17:22,202
That's really hard for me
to kind of make sense of.

1741
01:17:23,116 --> 01:17:25,336
It's not--
it's not the sexy answer.

1742
01:17:25,379 --> 01:17:27,033
It's not the answer
you want and it doesn't,

1743
01:17:27,077 --> 01:17:29,209
you know, sort of wrap
things up with a bow.

1744
01:17:29,253 --> 01:17:31,821
I mean, I-- I don't--
I don't mean to downplay it.

1745
01:17:31,864 --> 01:17:34,258
I just have a very personal
relationship with it

1746
01:17:34,301 --> 01:17:36,042
because I put my heart
and soul int-- into it

1747
01:17:36,086 --> 01:17:38,218
and nobody noticed for 20 years.

1748
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,354
[inspirational music]

1749
01:17:43,397 --> 01:17:45,225
[Ryan]
London was a total dream.

1750
01:17:45,269 --> 01:17:47,053
I was like that's
definitely not happening.

1751
01:17:49,926 --> 01:17:53,494
It's just something that, when you try to explain it to people,

1752
01:17:55,409 --> 01:17:59,196
there's a-- th-- they just--
it-- they can't get
a grasp on it.

1753
01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:02,547
They're like, "What did you do
in 2017?"[softly laughs]

1754
01:18:02,590 --> 01:18:03,417
You're like,

1755
01:18:04,941 --> 01:18:06,682
"I went out and met
a bunch of people

1756
01:18:08,858 --> 01:18:12,252
that feel very strongly
about something that I did
when I was 15."

1757
01:18:13,776 --> 01:18:16,822
And, uh, you got to love them.

1758
01:18:17,780 --> 01:18:19,085
[man]
I got a dog called Rudy as well.

1759
01:18:19,129 --> 01:18:21,261
You have a dog--
your dog's name is Rudy?

1760
01:18:21,305 --> 01:18:23,916
-I gave it when I was five
years old. Thank you, sir.
-That's awesome.

1761
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,005
[André]
So we set up a screening

1762
01:18:26,049 --> 01:18:27,746
in London,
at the Prince Charles Cinema,

1763
01:18:27,790 --> 01:18:30,314
which is something
I've always wanted to attend.

1764
01:18:30,357 --> 01:18:33,491
We get there and we have
a mom and her daughter,

1765
01:18:33,534 --> 01:18:36,059
and we learned
that even 30 years later,

1766
01:18:36,102 --> 01:18:39,497
the 15 rating still
holds effect in the UK.

1767
01:18:39,540 --> 01:18:41,412
And she's not allowed
to come into the theater.

1768
01:18:41,455 --> 01:18:43,762
They bought their tickets,
they waited in line,

1769
01:18:43,806 --> 01:18:45,198
and they can't come in.

1770
01:18:45,242 --> 01:18:46,765
"You're going
to meet Sean and Rudy."

1771
01:18:46,809 --> 01:18:47,810
And I'm like, "Wow!"

1772
01:18:49,376 --> 01:18:51,552
And I just started jumping
around and, you know, saying,

1773
01:18:51,596 --> 01:18:54,773
"What am I going to wear?
What am I going to do?"
And, you know--

1774
01:18:54,817 --> 01:18:58,037
We made sure that she was
allowed to at least come in

1775
01:18:58,081 --> 01:19:00,300
-for the QandA.
-Allegra is in here. Yes?

1776
01:19:00,344 --> 01:19:04,043
-[man] Allegra? Hi.
-She in the back? Where's
she at? There she is.

1777
01:19:04,087 --> 01:19:05,828
She was a trooper.
She understood,
she knows the thing.

1778
01:19:05,871 --> 01:19:08,439
Her mom was great, and we got
to hang out afterwards.

1779
01:19:08,482 --> 01:19:12,791
I'm more of an '80s girl than
more of, like, a now modern one.
[chuckles]

1780
01:19:12,835 --> 01:19:14,227
Because my mom always says,

1781
01:19:14,271 --> 01:19:15,838
"Be a modern girl!"
And I'm like,

1782
01:19:15,881 --> 01:19:18,579
"No, I want to be
an '80s star, you know."

1783
01:19:18,623 --> 01:19:19,537
Just like it.

1784
01:19:19,580 --> 01:19:21,539
[inspirational music]

1785
01:19:33,725 --> 01:19:35,074
[Shane]
Here we are, 30 years later.

1786
01:19:36,641 --> 01:19:39,122
And, in the last ten years,
what we've seen is this movie

1787
01:19:39,165 --> 01:19:42,603
attain this almost
unprecedented cult popularity.

1788
01:19:42,647 --> 01:19:45,345
I think it's the love
of kids and monsters

1789
01:19:45,389 --> 01:19:47,783
and just the tone of the movie

1790
01:19:47,826 --> 01:19:49,088
that sustained it.

1791
01:19:49,132 --> 01:19:51,090
[André]
This growth in the love

1792
01:19:51,134 --> 01:19:54,267
and the attachment
to The Monster Squad

1793
01:19:54,311 --> 01:19:56,008
has not died down.

1794
01:19:56,052 --> 01:19:58,881
There's more fans today
than there were in 2006.

1795
01:19:58,924 --> 01:20:00,926
And there's new fans today.

1796
01:20:00,970 --> 01:20:02,623
We have a whole
second generation

1797
01:20:02,667 --> 01:20:03,886
of Monster Squadfans.

1798
01:20:03,929 --> 01:20:05,801
[Matthew]
It is fantastic

1799
01:20:05,844 --> 01:20:07,585
to be here
in the Warner Brothers lot

1800
01:20:07,628 --> 01:20:09,674
whereMonster Squad
was originally filmed.

1801
01:20:09,717 --> 01:20:12,068
We got all these amazing
sights right here.

1802
01:20:12,111 --> 01:20:14,113
[André]
And you've got your family
here with you today.

1803
01:20:14,157 --> 01:20:16,028
So what's it like sharing
something likeMonster Squad,

1804
01:20:16,072 --> 01:20:18,726
that meant so much to you
with your own kids?

1805
01:20:18,770 --> 01:20:20,598
As-- as it being
one of my favorite movies,

1806
01:20:20,641 --> 01:20:22,469
it just-- they were--
they grew up with it,

1807
01:20:22,513 --> 01:20:24,080
and they loved it from--
from the beginning.

1808
01:20:24,123 --> 01:20:26,822
It has so many aspects
to it that attracted me

1809
01:20:26,865 --> 01:20:29,868
and-- and them that
it's just part of us.

1810
01:20:29,912 --> 01:20:33,611
But what a surprise,
what a-- what a really odd
but pleasant surprise

1811
01:20:33,654 --> 01:20:35,569
that this thing that we planted

1812
01:20:35,613 --> 01:20:37,354
then it grew into something

1813
01:20:37,397 --> 01:20:39,835
and we come around
20 years later

1814
01:20:39,878 --> 01:20:42,663
and there's a freaking
tree there where there was
a seed before.

1815
01:20:44,578 --> 01:20:47,581
-You got to have the dead
media. [chuckles]
-Have all the media, right?

1816
01:20:47,625 --> 01:20:49,366
Okay. So let's go
through the countries.

1817
01:20:49,409 --> 01:20:53,500
So, Mexico, Poland, France.

1818
01:20:53,544 --> 01:20:56,416
At one point, someone asked me,
"I need to meet you in real
life at some point

1819
01:20:56,460 --> 01:20:58,549
because I can't wait
to look at your Monster
Squadcollection."

1820
01:20:58,592 --> 01:21:01,247
And all the sudden it dawned
on me that I didn't really have

1821
01:21:01,291 --> 01:21:02,901
a lot of Monster Squadstuff.

1822
01:21:02,945 --> 01:21:05,208
I remember, like, uh,
going on eBay and looking

1823
01:21:05,251 --> 01:21:07,775
and seeing that there were some,
like, copies from the UK

1824
01:21:07,819 --> 01:21:10,213
kind of circling around
and I thought, "You know
what would be really cool?

1825
01:21:10,256 --> 01:21:12,432
It's buying some of those,
something that I could display,

1826
01:21:12,476 --> 01:21:14,782
but also knowing
that each tape has a heritage

1827
01:21:14,826 --> 01:21:17,481
of being an ex-rental that--
that there's a-- there's a life

1828
01:21:17,524 --> 01:21:19,352
in each one of these tapes,
even if I don't watch them."

1829
01:21:19,396 --> 01:21:21,964
I would just love the idea
of having a bit of Monster Squad

1830
01:21:22,007 --> 01:21:24,183
that touched every continent
on the planet.

1831
01:21:24,227 --> 01:21:25,706
And I'm pretty close.

1832
01:21:27,578 --> 01:21:29,145
[Shane]
Wasn't it interesting...

1833
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,625
that a movie that is...

1834
01:21:32,496 --> 01:21:35,716
basically a pastiche
about nostalgia for childhood

1835
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,371
now lets you,
the actor in the movie,

1836
01:21:39,329 --> 01:21:41,113
relive the nostalgia
for your childhood?

1837
01:21:42,114 --> 01:21:45,161
You know, in essence
you were a monster fighter
when you were a kid

1838
01:21:45,204 --> 01:21:47,119
and now you get to go back
and relive that.

1839
01:21:49,339 --> 01:21:52,777
[Fred]
As an adult, you develop
this kind of distance.

1840
01:21:52,820 --> 01:21:56,737
It becomes about ideas and aesthetics and you lose the kid.

1841
01:21:56,781 --> 01:21:59,175
[Shane]
Kids who have this peculiar
belief in imagination

1842
01:22:00,132 --> 01:22:03,179
that's died
within the cynical adults,

1843
01:22:03,222 --> 01:22:05,964
and they say, "We believe
that this is the key to life,

1844
01:22:06,008 --> 01:22:08,097
not growing up."

1845
01:22:08,140 --> 01:22:09,968
[André]
I always have to see
through the eyes of the kid.

1846
01:22:10,012 --> 01:22:12,666
That's what people are responding to in
Monster Squad.

1847
01:22:12,710 --> 01:22:17,106
Monster Squadwas something
that I, whenever I saw it,

1848
01:22:17,149 --> 01:22:19,804
I related to it, but I didn't
know why I related to it.

1849
01:22:19,847 --> 01:22:21,327
We know these characters,

1850
01:22:21,371 --> 01:22:23,373
we went to school
with them and we are them.

1851
01:22:23,416 --> 01:22:25,766
[Jem]
I wish I had that experience.

1852
01:22:25,810 --> 01:22:31,163
[Shane]
And I think the idea of kids
preserving that is important.

1853
01:22:31,207 --> 01:22:33,687
And I think that's
whatThe Monster Squad
appeals to as well.

1854
01:22:35,689 --> 01:22:38,954
[Ryan] I mean, we are a family,
that's how, you know,
that-- that's how it is.

1855
01:22:39,911 --> 01:22:43,045
We were a part of the squad.
Someone in school was
just like Sean.

1856
01:22:43,088 --> 01:22:44,742
Who isn't that young kid?

1857
01:22:44,785 --> 01:22:47,005
Whether it's
fighting the Wolfman

1858
01:22:47,049 --> 01:22:49,268
or just having to get through
really sucky sixth grade.

1859
01:22:49,312 --> 01:22:51,227
[Germain]
Every time I watch
The Monster Squad,

1860
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:52,880
it takes me back
to my childhood,

1861
01:22:52,924 --> 01:22:53,794
every single time.

1862
01:22:55,057 --> 01:22:58,408
[Fred]
Whether they're 40 or-- or 12,

1863
01:22:58,451 --> 01:23:02,064
they're seeing it through the eyes of a kid because it was told through the eyes of a kid.

1864
01:23:02,107 --> 01:23:04,457
[Shane]
In essence,
we made the movie for you,

1865
01:23:04,501 --> 01:23:06,720
and you just had to grow up in time to really appreciate it,

1866
01:23:06,764 --> 01:23:08,113
you know.[chuckles]

1867
01:23:08,157 --> 01:23:10,376
[inspirational music]

1868
01:23:24,695 --> 01:23:27,306
I have memories
of driving my parents crazy

1869
01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:30,048
with repeat viewings
and repeating certain phrases

1870
01:23:30,092 --> 01:23:31,615
that-- that just
caught on with me.

1871
01:23:31,658 --> 01:23:33,704
I'd just always
get chills every time

1872
01:23:33,747 --> 01:23:36,141
Rudy says, "I'm in
a goddamn club, aren't I?"

1873
01:23:36,185 --> 01:23:39,014
"Give me the amulet, you bitch."

1874
01:23:39,057 --> 01:23:41,668
[laughs]

1875
01:23:41,712 --> 01:23:45,150
"Kick him in the nards,"
right? It's the most, uh,
iconic scene from the movie.

1876
01:23:45,194 --> 01:23:47,370
-Or your dad's fighting
off Wolfman.
-Yeah.

1877
01:23:47,413 --> 01:23:48,936
"Stick it down right
in his pants."

1878
01:23:48,980 --> 01:23:51,243
[all laugh]

1879
01:23:51,287 --> 01:23:52,723
She was Phoebe.

1880
01:23:52,766 --> 01:23:54,986
I had a deal with an older sis--

1881
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:57,728
two older sisters that would
bully me and everything.

1882
01:23:57,771 --> 01:23:59,556
-Oh, my God!
-They were--

1883
01:23:59,599 --> 01:24:01,297
-We beat people's asses
for you...
-[loud laughs]

1884
01:24:01,340 --> 01:24:04,082
...in Staten Island. Holy shit!

1885
01:24:04,126 --> 01:24:05,605
-You did!
-I did!

1886
01:24:05,649 --> 01:24:08,086
Dracula was always
really sexy to me.

1887
01:24:08,130 --> 01:24:10,436
-I'm like,
"Restrain yourself, girl."
-I forgot,

1888
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:11,785
-I just forgot.
-Right?

1889
01:24:11,829 --> 01:24:13,787
Showed it to friends
in Saudi Arabia,

1890
01:24:13,831 --> 01:24:17,008
and then kind of formed a little
Monster SquadSaudi Arabia.

1891
01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:18,357
Never found any monsters.

1892
01:24:18,401 --> 01:24:21,099
we've raided our mom's pantries

1893
01:24:21,143 --> 01:24:23,493
to get garlic salt
and garlic powder.

1894
01:24:23,536 --> 01:24:26,061
I used to imagine,
before going to bed at night,

1895
01:24:26,104 --> 01:24:29,586
that Dracula would visit me
and turn me into his apprentice.

1896
01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:35,679
I could, um,
I could bring up The Goonies

1897
01:24:35,722 --> 01:24:38,421
-first--
-Cut. Cut, no. Yeah, no.
We're out.

1898
01:24:38,464 --> 01:24:40,423
We're done, we're done. Let's--

1899
01:24:40,466 --> 01:24:41,859
[heavily sighs]

1900
01:24:41,902 --> 01:24:43,600
"Wolfman's got nards!"

1901
01:24:43,643 --> 01:24:45,558
"Wolfman's got nards!"

1902
01:24:45,602 --> 01:24:47,386
"Wolfman's got nards!"

1903
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:49,823
"Wolfman's got nards!"

1904
01:24:49,867 --> 01:24:52,304
"Wolfman's got nards!"

1905
01:24:52,348 --> 01:24:54,915
"Wolfman's got nards!"

1906
01:24:54,959 --> 01:24:57,962
[crowd shouting together]

1907
01:24:58,005 --> 01:25:00,051
[crowd cheers and applauds]

1908
01:25:05,143 --> 01:25:07,363
[upbeat music]

1909
01:25:08,581 --> 01:25:11,454
♪ So let's keep it underground

1910
01:25:15,936 --> 01:25:18,156
♪ Conversation down

1911
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,160
♪ Yeah, so love it
till it drowns ♪

1912
01:25:22,204 --> 01:25:26,860
♪ So let's keep dry

1913
01:25:31,213 --> 01:25:34,216
♪ Keep me under

1914
01:25:34,259 --> 01:25:36,957
[André]
Since you're a fan,
I was going to share,

1915
01:25:37,001 --> 01:25:39,090
you're one of the first people
that has been out of the box,

1916
01:25:39,134 --> 01:25:40,309
-but...
-Is that a--

1917
01:25:40,352 --> 01:25:42,702
[André]
This is the original

1918
01:25:42,746 --> 01:25:45,096
hero wardrobe
Stephen King Rules shirt.

1919
01:25:45,140 --> 01:25:46,532
Holy shit!

1920
01:25:46,576 --> 01:25:48,273
It's the actual
Stephen King Rules shirt.

1921
01:25:48,317 --> 01:25:50,971
-Oh! Oh, my God!
-The actual Stephen King
Rules shirt.

1922
01:25:51,015 --> 01:25:52,886
But I have the original--

1923
01:25:52,930 --> 01:25:54,627
-Oh!
-This has become a thing.

1924
01:25:54,671 --> 01:25:57,500
-Wow.
-That's amazing.

1925
01:25:57,543 --> 01:25:59,415
Wow!

1926
01:25:59,458 --> 01:26:02,200
Oh, nice!

1927
01:26:02,244 --> 01:26:03,462
Are you kidding me?

1928
01:26:03,506 --> 01:26:06,161
-...the original.
-Oh, my goodness.

1929
01:26:06,204 --> 01:26:07,814
-This is it.
-Oh!

1930
01:26:08,946 --> 01:26:10,165
-[water splatters]
-It's, uh--

1931
01:26:11,253 --> 01:26:12,341
That's incredible.

1932
01:26:12,384 --> 01:26:13,951
You were so tiny.

1933
01:26:13,994 --> 01:26:17,259
Oh, so tiny. So tiny.

1934
01:26:17,302 --> 01:26:18,869
-You were so tiny!
-I will let you--
we'll let you--

1935
01:26:18,912 --> 01:26:21,176
-You were such a little guy.
-I know, right?

1936
01:26:21,219 --> 01:26:23,178
-[André]
It's what everybody says.
-[laughs]

1937
01:26:23,221 --> 01:26:25,223
-It does look tiny.
-[chuckles]

1938
01:26:25,267 --> 01:26:26,877
-You wore this?
-That was it.

1939
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:27,791
Did you wash it?

1940
01:26:29,619 --> 01:26:31,273
Smells like movie magic.

1941
01:26:34,276 --> 01:26:35,799
[Joe Magna]
When I designed this clubhouse,

1942
01:26:35,842 --> 01:26:37,975
I just thought,
"Wow, wouldn't it be cool

1943
01:26:38,018 --> 01:26:41,674
to try to make
the Monster Squadclubhouse?"

1944
01:26:41,718 --> 01:26:44,677
And just make it as screen
accurate as I possibly could.

1945
01:26:44,721 --> 01:26:46,636
My friends that are
Monster Squadfans
always see it and go,

1946
01:26:46,679 --> 01:26:47,985
"Oh, man, this is incredible."

1947
01:26:48,028 --> 01:26:50,857
We are on people's bodies.

1948
01:26:50,901 --> 01:26:53,295
We were at Spooky Empire
and a gal came up

1949
01:26:53,338 --> 01:26:56,254
who is a big Monster Squadfan,
and she said,

1950
01:26:56,298 --> 01:26:58,430
"I figured out
what I want for my birthday.

1951
01:26:58,474 --> 01:27:01,216
I'm going to come back
tomorrow and you and Ryan
are going to sign my leg

1952
01:27:01,259 --> 01:27:03,479
and I'm going
to go next door to the hall

1953
01:27:03,522 --> 01:27:05,568
at the convention room where
all the tattoo artists work."

1954
01:27:05,611 --> 01:27:07,657
[upbeat rock music]

1955
01:27:09,615 --> 01:27:11,661
[needles buzzing]

1956
01:27:18,102 --> 01:27:19,756
But tell them about Danny.

1957
01:27:19,799 --> 01:27:21,758
[Ryan]
He'd had-- he already had
all the monsters,

1958
01:27:21,801 --> 01:27:23,238
except Gillman.

1959
01:27:23,281 --> 01:27:24,978
[Danny]
Putting Gillman on my arm today,

1960
01:27:25,022 --> 01:27:28,373
especially with you guys around,
is a no-brainer.

1961
01:27:28,417 --> 01:27:30,462
[needles buzzing]

1962
01:27:30,506 --> 01:27:32,551
[music continues]

1963
01:27:34,379 --> 01:27:39,210
Turns out that André
and I got to actually
grab the gun and ink him.

1964
01:27:40,385 --> 01:27:42,431
[needles buzzing]

1965
01:27:46,565 --> 01:27:51,570
So, forever, uh, his Gillman
will be totally fucked up.