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In the criminal justice system...
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...crimes of a sexual nature
They are considered especially atrocious.
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In New York, the tenacious detectives
who investigate these atrocities...
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...they form an elite brigade,
the Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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- What time is it?
- You have two hours left.
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- They're boring me.
- Because?
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Because their theories are imperfect.
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Which is it?
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Almost all of them.
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And for your information,
I never degraded anyone.
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Do you care what I think?
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2 HOURS BEFORE EXECUTION
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According to his theories,
I don't care at all.
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It is not the last nor the first time.
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Then prove me wrong.
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- Tell me about your first time.
- I ask the questions now.
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Tell me about your first time.
What memories do you have?
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- It was nice.
- I'm not asking you.
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It was nice.
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I don't have time for games.
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- It was painful.
- For whom?
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For her. I thought there was
done something wrong.
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He did it. He got her pregnant.
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For all his unbridled clumsiness,
He earned a life of responsibilities.
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Seems to be the type
who has a lot of brats out there.
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How many do you have?
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Some.
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It's just a dog in heat on the street,
a slave to his impulses.
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- What do you mean, that he is equal to me?
- You are identical to me.
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My first time was painful too.
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But it was perfect. She was exquisite.
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What was his name?
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Nice try.
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Look who's playing now.
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It's my party, friends.
They can leave whenever they want.
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But then I wouldn't have control,
And what would be the fun?
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- I hate psychiatrists. Don't you?
- Of course.
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Nobody likes him.
How does that make you feel?
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- Insightful.
- Oh really?
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He's a liar, Matt.
His first time wasn't perfect.
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In fact, it was so disappointing.
who tries not to remember her.
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I was so inept and so inexperienced
that didn't even reach the climax.
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Not even when I was alone,
reliving the moment.
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One was young, like a ripe fruit,
He was screaming for sex.
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But I took my time.
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He had beautiful brown eyes,
almost sleepy.
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Until I started working.
Then they became big and round.
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First he begged, then he surrendered.
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The interview ended.
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He screamed in pain, moaned in terror.
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She was alive at all times...
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...even when I gutted her and the blood
It sprayed me like a warm shower.
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I can almost taste it.
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Calm down, boss.
The guards are changing shifts.
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Elliot, get up!
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Detective Stabler. It's been a while,
so I don't expect him to remember me.
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I'm Allen Cooper, my wife Hannah.
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-They murdered our daughter Debbie...
-Debbie, of course.
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3 DAYS BEFORE EXECUTION
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It will be 11 years next month.
His killer was never caught.
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I was coming home from school...
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And they kidnapped her. I remember it. my
partner, Dave Rosetti, took the case.
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Yes. We found out that he passed away.
We are very sorry.
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That's why we come to see you.
We know who killed our daughter.
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- Who?
-Matthew Brodus.
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When it happened,
We couldn't get over the pain.
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We were paralyzed with suffering.
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Losing Debbie almost ended
with our lives.
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Therapeutic help, victim groups.
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We finally come to believe
that we could live without knowing it.
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Until Matthew Brodus gave
his press conference.
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What did he say that made them believe
who killed his daughter?
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Want to sell tickets
for its execution...
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...he says he is raising money
for his daughter's education.
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As far as we know, he has no children.
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I still don't see the connection.
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The school that Brodus mentioned is
Our Lady of Light, in Lower Manhattan.
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Debbie's old school.
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If Brodus is the murderer
by Debbie Cooper...
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...why the computer
Didn't you catch his profile?
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The murder was before
to install VICAP.
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Many unfinished homicides
They are not in the system.
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New Jersey won't let us
approaching Brodus...
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...and even if they did,
he might refuse to speak.
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- No. Not this guy.
- Why are you so sure?
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Because serial killers kill
to his victims immediately...
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...and they take their time with the bodies.
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Not Brodus.
He kept his victims alive.
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He wanted them to see him work.
He needs to be looked at.
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According to the forensic report,
Debbie Cooper suffered before she died.
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They tied his legs
with plumbing tape.
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And Brodus played the plumber and tortured her.
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He kidnapped his victims,
He killed them on the outskirts...
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...and disposed of the bodies. This
homicide is similar to those in Jersey.
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Except for perforated corneas
before death.
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Why did you do it with this one?
and not with the others?
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It is strictly symbolic,
since he wouldn't let her survive.
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She knew him.
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Dave Rosetti always thought that
when we talk to everyone.
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We could never make the damn connection.
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Why do you think you can do it now?
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Let me talk to the guy.
It's all I need.
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He will die in less than 72 hours.
That might not be an option.
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Brodus is a serial killer
with own brand. That's very strange.
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And even stranger is finding someone
who has done it more than once.
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Maybe I could get an interview.
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Can the FBI force
to Jersey to cooperate?
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No, but a request from the bosses
could make things easier. I'll let you know.
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Elliott. Listen, I know...
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...that you want to help the Coopers.
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This is not about that,
and you know it.
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Dave Rosetti was shot
in the jaw for this.
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You have three days to act.
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Let Munch carry
Cooper's tests to the laboratory.
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Maybe after 10 years,
we can find DNA.
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Beware of the police
who carry gifts.
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Forget it. I have to take care of three
different but simultaneous trials.
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Hey, we're short on time.
The author dies the day after tomorrow.
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- Do you want to absolve him?
- It's not from this jurisdiction.
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We just need proof
to link him to our homicide.
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If you die before trying it,
The case will remain open.
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What do I have to analyze?
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We have plumbing tape, various fibers
and two different blood types.
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- Let me see what I can do.
- You're great.
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OUR LADY OF LIGHT HIGH SCHOOL
WEST 18 STREET N° 274
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MONDAY, JANUARY 28
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Let's go. Don't be late.
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I didn't know Debbie Cooper.
I started working later.
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What happened to the previous employee,
Mr. Jamison?
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Died of an attack
heart in the nineties.
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I don't know if I will be of help
after so long.
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According to my notes, Debbie had a
Close relationship with some teachers.
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Vivian Parish
Michael McKeeney and Andrea Mason.
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- Do you still work here?
- I never met Vivian Parish.
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Michael stopped teaching in '98.
I don't know where it is.
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And Andrea Mason teaches Government,
but she is sick.
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- We need your phone number.
- He's in the office.
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Was there any construction work
at that time?
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The rectory was built in the sixties. The
track, pool and gym, in the '70s.
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That's all.
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Any plumbing problems?
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we had to change
an old boiler system.
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It was made by a Brooklyn company.
I'll give you the name.
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Thank you.
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I had three men doing
that job. Two of them are still here.
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And do you use subcontractors?
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Of course, if the work is very big.
But this one wasn't.
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- How many employees did you have then?
- Fifteen, twenty.
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Those who are just starting out work
part time. They come and go.
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Did you have any employees called
Linwood Bradley, Matthew Braeden...
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...or Lonnie Matthews?
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What is this all about?
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The serial killer, Matthew Linwood
Brodus. Those are their aliases.
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Do you think that if that crazy
will work for me...
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...wouldn't have gone to the police?
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Here, look for it.
That bastard never worked here.
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Very aggressive
to have a clear conscience.
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Or he didn't want to be linked to Brodus.
I'll look into it.
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Nobody answers where Andrea Mason.
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When did you take the day
for being really sick?
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Good observation. This is Stabler.
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Yes. No problem. I'll be there.
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Very good. Huang wants to meet
at the FBI office for lunch.
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Maybe you have good news.
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Good news from the FBI?
They will say, "We will take care of your case."
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John, everything changed.
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They are no longer the liars they used to be.
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There is no time for lunch.
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We will do personality evaluations...
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...to former cellmates of Brodus.
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- How many are there?
- Thank you. Two.
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Robert Rule. Life sentence
for rape and murder.
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Leroy Russell is sentenced to death.
He converted to Islam.
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Since then he has been a model convict,
He doesn't want to talk to us.
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What do these evaluations tell us?
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His past, his tastes,
something to do with Brodus...
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...because he's not going to confess anything.
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I know how to interrogate a convict.
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I know, but I doubt you've seen
this degree of perversion before.
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- I already dealt with serial killers...
- That they attacked in short periods.
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Psychologically, they are more likely
to confess
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Brodus performed for years
without them noticing.
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It's like Dahmer, Lucas and Bundy.
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Sometimes years pass
for a murderer to let his guard down.
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Listen, everyone wants to talk.
Even Bundy cooperated in the end.
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Yes. When the execution approaches,
They are more flexible.
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But remember, this is a game.
Brodus is the one who makes the rules.
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SING SING CORRECTIONAL
OSSINING, NEW YORK
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MONDAY, JANUARY 28
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I'm missing The Wheel of the
Good luck talking to you.
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- What do you want?
- Do you want Brodus? Lower my sentence.
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- I'm sorry. We can't negotiate that.
- I'm serving a life sentence.
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He's a career criminal, Rule.
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Perpetua is not all life,
death penalty is not death.
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25 years can be 12 and a half to 15.
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That disturbs you, doesn't it?
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Listen, I'm not going anywhere.
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Ask the guard.
I'll be here a long time.
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Then you should rejoice,
will have a good report on record.
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I can't do something without anything in return.
What would those in my cell think?
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I must live here.
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The deal depends on what you know.
Then the rest.
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No. I think we're done here.
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We haven't even started.
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Answer or not to the
Questions, Mr. Rule...
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...the FBI doesn't make deals.
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- What the hell was that?
- Procedure.
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Get familiar with it
before doing more interviews.
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We always make deals.
You should have heard Rule.
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He knows nothing except his past.
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We would waste time with something else.
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How do you know if not
do you talk to the guy?
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Because Brodus wouldn't have told him
nothing important.
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- I would have considered Rule inferior.
- You know that, right?
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- I've been doing this for a long time.
- Me too.
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You don't get up from the table until
hear everything they have to negotiate.
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The FBI is doing these interviews,
and I won't accept any deal.
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I hope it's clear.
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- Jersey won't cooperate.
- Good. What can we do?
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An official request,
We let the procedure continue.
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By the time they respond,
Brodus will already be dead.
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We can't tell another state
how to act.
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New Jersey already has
an inferiority complex with NY.
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They refuse to give in
as a matter of principle.
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Alex, how many calls
of victims you received...
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...asking why you lost a case
and what will you do about it?
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Quite a few.
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And how many times
do you have a second chance?
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- What do you want me to do?
- Request a temporary suspension.
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No. I don't feel good doing that.
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I don't want to commute the sentence.
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I just need more time.
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Do you have direct evidence
that link Brodus to the victim?
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- Not yet.
- Then find something.
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00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:59,400
Meanwhile, I'm going to New Jersey...
237
00:12:59,478 --> 00:13:02,276
...to ask for a big
favor to an old friend.
238
00:13:05,184 --> 00:13:06,412
ASSISTANT OFFICE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY
239
00:13:06,485 --> 00:13:07,679
NEW JERSEY - MONDAY, JANUARY 28
240
00:13:07,753 --> 00:13:10,813
Good to see you, Alex,
but I must say no.
241
00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:12,380
It's just an interview.
242
00:13:12,458 --> 00:13:14,289
You have allowed it to other agencies.
243
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,384
Why not mine?
244
00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:19,090
The other police officers spoke to Brodus
when there were still appeals...
245
00:13:19,165 --> 00:13:21,963
...and now we are in the final stretch,
I can't take risks.
246
00:13:22,034 --> 00:13:25,800
We are not trying to sabotage your execution.
We are only looking for answers.
247
00:13:26,372 --> 00:13:30,433
If he is the murderer, whoever the
victim, they will execute him the day after tomorrow.
248
00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:34,441
I can't believe
that you have this position with me.
249
00:13:34,513 --> 00:13:38,574
Did you expect a story from the past
Would I allow you to do an interview?
250
00:13:39,785 --> 00:13:42,413
I came to talk to you
from professional to professional.
251
00:13:42,488 --> 00:13:44,718
I don't need to revel in the past.
252
00:13:45,891 --> 00:13:48,485
You're good, Alex, not spectacular.
253
00:13:49,161 --> 00:13:52,153
This is a delicate political issue,
I can't access this.
254
00:13:52,231 --> 00:13:54,631
What's going on, Alan?
Is it a re-election year?
255
00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:58,067
Can't New Yorkers have
a break why don't you vote here?
256
00:13:58,137 --> 00:13:59,798
You're bolder since I saw you.
257
00:13:59,872 --> 00:14:02,932
Not you, victims' rights
They used to be a priority.
258
00:14:03,008 --> 00:14:05,442
- What will happen if he confesses?
- Is it something so bad?
259
00:14:05,511 --> 00:14:08,207
What prevents him from confessing to his murders?
In other states...
260
00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,477
...and drag the judicial system
to a jurisdictional frenzy?
261
00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:13,745
- So what?
- You'll take care of that.
262
00:14:13,819 --> 00:14:16,014
If he murdered other people
and dies without confessing it...
263
00:14:16,088 --> 00:14:17,817
...you will have contributed to that.
264
00:14:17,890 --> 00:14:21,986
Brodus will do and say anything
to suspend its execution.
265
00:14:22,061 --> 00:14:24,188
Henry Lee Lucas did it. Bundy did it.
266
00:14:24,263 --> 00:14:26,322
Its nature is to explode
our weaknesses.
267
00:14:26,398 --> 00:14:29,526
Sorry Alex, no one has access.
No exceptions.
268
00:14:34,673 --> 00:14:37,039
There wasn't enough blood
to determine DNA.
269
00:14:37,109 --> 00:14:39,373
The victim's shirt was
full of blood
270
00:14:39,445 --> 00:14:41,208
The blood was hers, not the murderer's.
271
00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,511
Eleven years ago, the laboratory
used 90% for analysis.
272
00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:46,647
Give us good news. Come on.
273
00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:49,779
The fibers are typical
of the uniform fabric.
274
00:14:49,855 --> 00:14:52,983
They traced her to a company
who dyes fabrics for workers' suits...
275
00:14:53,058 --> 00:14:54,650
...pest control, construction.
276
00:14:54,727 --> 00:14:56,160
Plumbers uniforms.
277
00:14:56,228 --> 00:14:57,695
The victim's tape matches...
278
00:14:57,763 --> 00:14:59,731
...with tape number
of bodies in NJ.
279
00:14:59,798 --> 00:15:00,856
That is our connection.
280
00:15:00,933 --> 00:15:04,027
Yes, but it is circumstantial
put New Jersey against the wall.
281
00:15:04,103 --> 00:15:06,230
could compare
their fibers with ours.
282
00:15:06,305 --> 00:15:07,829
Do you think it is difficult to obtain them?
283
00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:09,431
Not without a fight. No.
284
00:15:09,775 --> 00:15:11,936
Did you link the plumbing company
with Brodus?
285
00:15:12,011 --> 00:15:13,808
There were no payments under any of his aliases.
286
00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:16,313
- It was paid without receipts.
- I spoke with the owner.
287
00:15:16,382 --> 00:15:19,442
Moderate business, pay your taxes,
He even attends as a jury.
288
00:15:19,518 --> 00:15:21,577
I didn't know there is
law-abiding citizens.
289
00:15:21,654 --> 00:15:22,678
Did you go to the Coopers?
290
00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:24,382
Yes, and you owe me a pair of shoes.
291
00:15:24,456 --> 00:15:26,447
After 10 years,
people don't remember anything.
292
00:15:26,525 --> 00:15:27,787
- And the teacher?
- Andrea Mason?
293
00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:28,884
Yes. Did you find it?
294
00:15:28,961 --> 00:15:30,223
The interview is tomorrow.
295
00:15:30,296 --> 00:15:32,730
I cover you.
If there was something important, I would tell you.
296
00:15:32,798 --> 00:15:34,129
I'm running out of time, John.
297
00:15:34,199 --> 00:15:37,657
You're running out of options.
The Coopers are running out of time.
298
00:15:39,138 --> 00:15:42,369
I need you to make a deal with him
who shared the cell with Brodus.
299
00:15:42,441 --> 00:15:44,068
Why is he imprisoned?
300
00:15:44,543 --> 00:15:47,205
- Two rapes, one manslaughter.
- No.
301
00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:51,147
Listen, I'm out of resources,
and maybe he has something...
302
00:15:51,216 --> 00:15:53,343
...to help us with Brodus.
303
00:15:53,652 --> 00:15:55,415
He won't speak if he doesn't have some incentive.
304
00:15:55,487 --> 00:15:57,387
What does Huang think about this?
305
00:15:57,456 --> 00:15:59,947
- You want to follow the procedure.
- Me too.
306
00:16:00,025 --> 00:16:03,722
And while we play with rules
arbitrary, should the Coopers wait?
307
00:16:03,796 --> 00:16:07,823
Elliot, why are you insisting so much?
308
00:16:09,201 --> 00:16:13,001
I analyzed the photos of the scene
of the crime, I read the files.
309
00:16:13,772 --> 00:16:18,266
- He mutilated 12 women before they died.
- It's something quite atrocious.
310
00:16:18,510 --> 00:16:22,776
Try to imagine the strength, the will
what he must have had to keep them...
311
00:16:22,848 --> 00:16:24,839
...live and feed on their terror.
312
00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:29,286
I will need all possible means
to get this guy to confess.
313
00:16:29,355 --> 00:16:32,449
Do you think this convict
will it help with anything?
314
00:16:32,524 --> 00:16:35,721
I won't know
Unless I can talk to him.
315
00:16:37,563 --> 00:16:41,021
When you verify your information,
He will go to Danbury Federal Prison.
316
00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:42,328
2 DAYS BEFORE EXECUTION
317
00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:44,699
It's fair. I raped that girl.
318
00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:48,264
I know I should be in
prison, but not here.
319
00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:50,900
What can you tell me about Matthew Brodus?
320
00:16:50,976 --> 00:16:53,877
I have a little girl.
He is five years old.
321
00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:55,675
Her name is Marlene.
322
00:16:57,216 --> 00:17:00,014
Wow, they really know how to investigate.
323
00:17:01,387 --> 00:17:04,982
My ex won't let me talk to her.
It's all I have.
324
00:17:06,225 --> 00:17:10,457
It's hard to be in prison unless
May you have something good to hold on to.
325
00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:15,359
He sends me drawings...
326
00:17:15,434 --> 00:17:20,370
...and I have a photo of when he turned
three years. He's blowing out the candles.
327
00:17:21,340 --> 00:17:23,831
Where are you going with this?
328
00:17:24,009 --> 00:17:26,000
Would you call her for me?
329
00:17:28,947 --> 00:17:29,971
No.
330
00:17:31,316 --> 00:17:34,080
Would I ask my ex
how is my little girl?
331
00:17:34,153 --> 00:17:37,122
What is your favorite color?
How are you doing at school?
332
00:17:37,189 --> 00:17:39,248
Please, that's all I want.
333
00:17:39,591 --> 00:17:41,354
- No.
- Please.
334
00:17:44,129 --> 00:17:46,222
I have nothing to say then.
335
00:17:48,434 --> 00:17:51,801
I just want to know how my little girl is doing.
336
00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:56,166
If I had a son, I would understand.
337
00:18:01,647 --> 00:18:04,343
If I make that call,
Are we talking about Brodus?
338
00:18:04,817 --> 00:18:06,808
Anything you want.
339
00:18:07,653 --> 00:18:09,348
What is the number?
340
00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:25,693
- Hello?
- Hello. I'm Detective Elliot Stabler.
341
00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:29,366
- I'm calling on behalf of Robert Rule...
- I miss you so much!
342
00:18:34,179 --> 00:18:35,646
He hung up.
343
00:18:37,483 --> 00:18:38,780
Satisfied?
344
00:18:39,318 --> 00:18:40,808
Yes of course.
345
00:18:44,189 --> 00:18:45,850
Thanks for trying.
346
00:18:46,892 --> 00:18:48,189
OUR LADY OF LIGHT HIGH SCHOOL
WEST 18 STREET N° 274
347
00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:49,284
TUESDAY, JANUARY 29
348
00:18:49,361 --> 00:18:52,524
If you have questions about homework,
You can see me after class.
349
00:18:52,598 --> 00:18:54,463
Thank you, Miss Mason.
350
00:18:56,535 --> 00:19:00,232
Andrea Mason? Detective John Munch.
We talk on the phone.
351
00:19:00,572 --> 00:19:04,133
- Clear. Debbie Cooper, 10 years later.
- Yes, how well did you know her?
352
00:19:04,209 --> 00:19:06,234
History was not his favorite subject.
353
00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:09,644
I made a lot of extra credits
to raise your grade.
354
00:19:09,715 --> 00:19:12,980
- That's all?
- I'm sorry. It was a long time ago.
355
00:19:13,051 --> 00:19:15,281
It's great that they still try
resolve his death...
356
00:19:15,354 --> 00:19:16,946
...but even though it just happened...
357
00:19:17,022 --> 00:19:19,855
...he was just one of the many students
who pass through that door.
358
00:19:19,925 --> 00:19:23,691
- It didn't stand out, right?
- No. Debbie was clumsy, slower.
359
00:19:23,762 --> 00:19:27,721
In addition to Vivian Parish and a few
friends, no one was interested in her.
360
00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:29,596
Where can I find Vivian Parish?
361
00:19:29,668 --> 00:19:32,432
The last thing I knew is
who moved to New Mexico.
362
00:19:32,638 --> 00:19:33,832
Thank you.
363
00:19:34,139 --> 00:19:35,936
FBI OFFICE, NEW YORK
FEDERAL PLAZA N° 26
364
00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:37,134
TUESDAY, JANUARY 29
365
00:19:37,209 --> 00:19:39,769
Let me guess. Rule didn't tell you anything.
366
00:19:40,746 --> 00:19:43,943
Just what you found out
of newspapers and television.
367
00:19:45,117 --> 00:19:48,018
one day you will realize
that I know what I'm doing.
368
00:19:49,721 --> 00:19:51,348
I had to try it.
369
00:19:51,924 --> 00:19:53,551
I accept the apology.
370
00:19:54,393 --> 00:19:55,917
Let's move on.
371
00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:00,157
What do we do now?
372
00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:02,933
Brodus' other cellmate.
373
00:20:03,001 --> 00:20:06,596
We have to get Leroy Russell to talk.
He still refuses to do it.
374
00:20:06,672 --> 00:20:08,663
He says it does not lead him to Allah.
375
00:20:08,740 --> 00:20:11,868
We're looking for Detective Stabler.
Your captain said he would be here.
376
00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:15,380
Detectives Yorkin and Janowicz, Unit
of Brooklyn Special Victims.
377
00:20:15,447 --> 00:20:18,848
Did you allow a convict
named Robert Rule will use his cell phone?
378
00:20:18,917 --> 00:20:19,975
What happens?
379
00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:23,852
A rape victim received a
called. She called the police station hysterically.
380
00:20:23,922 --> 00:20:28,222
According to the record, the number is
a Manhattan SVU detective.
381
00:20:28,293 --> 00:20:30,761
Would you mind telling us
what the hell was he doing?
382
00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:38,866
The victim's name is Elizabeth Shachtman.
383
00:20:38,937 --> 00:20:41,838
- She was 16 when Rule viciously raped her.
- I read the file.
384
00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:45,138
A little late for that.
What the hell were you thinking?
385
00:20:45,210 --> 00:20:47,576
He told a sad story about
his daughter, and I believed him.
386
00:20:47,646 --> 00:20:49,511
Because you wanted to believe him.
387
00:20:49,815 --> 00:20:52,375
How did the convict get
the phone number?
388
00:20:52,451 --> 00:20:54,715
Rule had two attorneys defending him.
389
00:20:54,786 --> 00:20:58,483
Obtained information from the victim
because she was a witness at his trial.
390
00:20:58,557 --> 00:21:01,390
I should sanction you
and send you to the Shachtman residence...
391
00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:04,258
- ...to apologize.
- I already did.
392
00:21:10,702 --> 00:21:12,294
How are you doing?
393
00:21:13,572 --> 00:21:16,268
She feels violated. Again.
394
00:21:22,047 --> 00:21:25,380
I'll call Brooklyn.
I'll see if I can fix things.
395
00:21:29,888 --> 00:21:31,253
Vivian Parish. Maybe he got married.
396
00:21:31,323 --> 00:21:34,121
Can you verify
Who pays your expenses? I'll wait.
397
00:21:34,459 --> 00:21:38,418
Tell me again why my partner
He did not obtain revalidation of his weapon.
398
00:21:38,497 --> 00:21:40,624
- He got nervous.
- I didn't get nervous.
399
00:21:40,699 --> 00:21:43,361
Well. Got low grades
for shooting early.
400
00:21:43,435 --> 00:21:46,632
That happens to everyone, Fin.
There is medication for that now.
401
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:51,268
And what is your next plan?
402
00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:53,978
I don't have one. Well...
403
00:21:54,046 --> 00:21:56,776
Brodus has another cellmate,
but he doesn't want to talk.
404
00:21:56,848 --> 00:22:00,011
something you can use
to pressure the guy?
405
00:22:00,085 --> 00:22:03,316
He killed a child in a store robbery.
406
00:22:03,388 --> 00:22:07,188
He killed him at point-blank range with a shotgun.
of cut pipe. He converted to Islam.
407
00:22:07,259 --> 00:22:09,193
He has appealed only once since then.
408
00:22:09,261 --> 00:22:12,492
I guess I would like
to change the execution date.
409
00:22:13,932 --> 00:22:16,298
- Yes. How do you know?
- It's on a path.
410
00:22:16,368 --> 00:22:19,804
It's what they have in common
Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
411
00:22:19,871 --> 00:22:23,398
To be a man of God,
You must change the man you are.
412
00:22:23,475 --> 00:22:26,808
Can't you appeal to religion
of the type? You want to clarify a death.
413
00:22:26,878 --> 00:22:29,039
It must mean something
if your conversion is real.
414
00:22:29,114 --> 00:22:32,345
- He has a blood debt. Use that.
- A blood debt?
415
00:22:32,417 --> 00:22:37,047
It's in the Koran. Destroyed a life
He has a debt for shedding blood.
416
00:22:37,122 --> 00:22:38,919
It is Islamic justice.
417
00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:41,449
HENDERSON'S APARTMENT
101 EAST STREET N° 543
418
00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:42,526
TUESDAY, JANUARY 29
419
00:22:42,594 --> 00:22:43,959
How can I help you, Detective?
420
00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:47,328
Please believe me that if I had
other option, I wouldn't be here.
421
00:22:47,399 --> 00:22:50,891
I have already caused
enough pain to the victims.
422
00:22:55,173 --> 00:22:57,869
I came to ask you
face the murderer of his son...
423
00:22:57,943 --> 00:22:59,570
...and ask him to talk to us.
424
00:22:59,644 --> 00:23:02,670
Because? Why would you ask me something like that?
425
00:23:02,748 --> 00:23:06,149
You may have information that
It will alleviate the suffering of another family.
426
00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:08,584
- Can't.
- I think you can, sir.
427
00:23:10,322 --> 00:23:11,846
I think who...
428
00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:17,825
...opposes the death penalty when
It's about his son's murderer...
429
00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:20,888
- ...he's brave enough to face it.
- I don't care what you believe.
430
00:23:20,966 --> 00:23:25,198
Yes, I spoke at his sentencing.
But I didn't do it for him. I did it for me.
431
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:29,502
His death does not ease my pain, nor
Nor does it return my son alive.
432
00:23:31,643 --> 00:23:35,010
- Sorry for removing your wounds.
- He didn't.
433
00:23:35,313 --> 00:23:37,110
My wounds never heal.
434
00:23:38,717 --> 00:23:41,447
at least you know
who killed his son.
435
00:23:42,187 --> 00:23:44,553
Debbie Cooper's parents don't know.
436
00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:49,685
SENTENCED TO THE DEATH PENALTY
CLINTON CORRECTIONAL
437
00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:52,093
DANNEMORA, NEW YORK
TUESDAY, JANUARY 29
438
00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:00,197
Why does it have chains?
439
00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:03,503
When there is a civilian in the room,
we take extra precautions.
440
00:24:05,343 --> 00:24:07,903
they told me
who is a religious man now.
441
00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:11,574
- I am indebted to you.
- You can't pay your debt.
442
00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:15,984
I need you to talk to these men.
Answer their questions and try not to lie.
443
00:24:17,689 --> 00:24:20,681
- Questions about what?
-Matthew Brodus.
444
00:24:22,828 --> 00:24:24,955
I don't know the man very well.
445
00:24:25,197 --> 00:24:28,689
Shared a cell with him
for three years. What do you think of him?
446
00:24:29,768 --> 00:24:32,965
- He's a murderer.
- So they have a lot in common.
447
00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:40,133
He always asked me questions.
448
00:24:40,512 --> 00:24:42,343
What kind of questions?
449
00:24:42,414 --> 00:24:45,850
Why was he sentenced to death?
Who had he killed?
450
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,609
How had he done it?
451
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:54,356
My answers always made him angry.
452
00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:59,086
That's because he killed a young man
who didn't attack first...
453
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:02,065
...then Brodus couldn't feel
the emotion of your experience.
454
00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:04,931
I shot that boy
because he saw my face.
455
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:09,065
But Brodus, he rejoiced in killing.
456
00:25:11,676 --> 00:25:15,612
one night,
He told me all the things he did.
457
00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:19,951
- I asked to be taken out of there after that.
- What kind of things?
458
00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:24,117
He stalked, disemboweled his victims...
459
00:25:25,023 --> 00:25:27,014
...did things to the body.
460
00:25:27,325 --> 00:25:29,088
He thought he was smarter than everyone...
461
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,025
...even when he made a mistake.
462
00:25:31,096 --> 00:25:34,031
Killed a girl with vision problems
close to home.
463
00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:37,024
Did he say how he did it?
464
00:25:38,403 --> 00:25:41,395
No, and I didn't ask him.
465
00:25:44,843 --> 00:25:47,038
Can I go back to my cell?
466
00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:50,138
The afternoon prayers, you know?
467
00:25:51,683 --> 00:25:52,945
Official.
468
00:25:57,355 --> 00:26:00,290
He refused to speak during his sentencing.
469
00:26:02,193 --> 00:26:06,254
I need to know how they were
my son's last moments.
470
00:26:07,966 --> 00:26:09,729
Did he say something?
471
00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:13,232
No, sir.
472
00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:19,540
You don't need your child's picture
dying not even my voice telling him how it was.
473
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:28,276
Leroy confirmed that he pierced her
corneas and killed a victim...
474
00:26:28,353 --> 00:26:29,752
...who lived close to home.
475
00:26:29,821 --> 00:26:32,016
Does not match any
New Jersey victim.
476
00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:33,114
That doesn't mean anything.
477
00:26:33,191 --> 00:26:35,216
It is a testimony
of a person condemned to death.
478
00:26:35,293 --> 00:26:37,284
Munch located the
teacher, Vivian Parish.
479
00:26:37,362 --> 00:26:39,387
She dated Brodus for six months...
480
00:26:39,464 --> 00:26:41,989
...and he was going to pick her up from school
often and, I quote...
481
00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:43,932
"He took Debbie over to his house a few times."
482
00:26:44,002 --> 00:26:46,266
Enough for a formal accusation
of murder?
483
00:26:46,338 --> 00:26:50,001
And as soon as I present it, they will say
Which is ours once they're done.
484
00:26:50,075 --> 00:26:53,602
- That's all? Do we give up?
- What else can we do?
485
00:26:54,312 --> 00:26:56,576
Explain it to your parents.
486
00:27:00,685 --> 00:27:02,846
I understand we have new evidence.
487
00:27:03,655 --> 00:27:05,555
How's this going, Miss Cabot?
488
00:27:06,091 --> 00:27:09,527
I don't think I can offer you more.
than my knowledge.
489
00:27:11,062 --> 00:27:14,429
Can you prove that Matthew
Brodus killed our daughter?
490
00:27:14,499 --> 00:27:16,524
Not in a court.
491
00:27:16,601 --> 00:27:20,230
But we are sure that he is guilty,
and they will execute him for his crimes.
492
00:27:20,305 --> 00:27:23,138
Does it sound familiar
the name Ottis Toole?
493
00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:28,638
All the police believe that he murdered the
John Walsh's son Adam, aged six.
494
00:27:28,713 --> 00:27:31,273
Died of AIDS
before we could try it.
495
00:27:31,349 --> 00:27:34,614
And after 21 years,
The anger and pain is still noticeable...
496
00:27:34,686 --> 00:27:36,654
...what John Walsh feels.
497
00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:40,416
Your hope died
with the death of his son's murderer.
498
00:27:41,459 --> 00:27:43,450
If you don't do your best to try...
499
00:27:43,528 --> 00:27:47,089
...that Matthew Brodus killed
our daughter, the same thing will happen to us.
500
00:27:52,737 --> 00:27:55,797
I'm Wade Harris,
Matthew Brodus' attorney.
501
00:27:55,874 --> 00:27:57,364
Nice to meet you.
502
00:27:57,442 --> 00:28:00,673
I am surprised that the prosecution
from the borough of Manhattan...
503
00:28:00,745 --> 00:28:02,906
...want to stop this execution.
504
00:28:02,981 --> 00:28:06,041
It's not like that. I want you to judge
his client for murder.
505
00:28:06,117 --> 00:28:08,108
That will give you six months to a year.
506
00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:11,349
No, you could get up to 18
if I burden her with legal proceedings.
507
00:28:11,423 --> 00:28:13,584
I plan to ask
a temporary restraining order.
508
00:28:13,658 --> 00:28:16,024
And what assures you that
Will a judge accept it?
509
00:28:16,094 --> 00:28:19,257
Evidence and an appeal
of the victim's parents.
510
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:21,563
What kind of tests?
511
00:28:22,867 --> 00:28:26,132
He made serious accusations against
My client, I have the right to know.
512
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:28,729
Only in the case that
submit the petition.
513
00:28:30,275 --> 00:28:33,938
You need your client alive.
Now, I'm the only thing he has.
514
00:28:34,145 --> 00:28:35,237
Do you accept?
515
00:28:41,453 --> 00:28:43,353
NEW JERSEY - SUPERIOR COURT
516
00:28:43,421 --> 00:28:45,252
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 30
517
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:46,990
Miss Cabot?
518
00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:48,116
1 DAY BEFORE EXECUTION
519
00:28:48,193 --> 00:28:50,161
I ask for an order
temporary restriction...
520
00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:53,095
...based on evidence linking Brodus
with an open homicide.
521
00:28:53,164 --> 00:28:55,689
That is not under the
legal jurisdiction of New Jersey.
522
00:28:55,767 --> 00:28:57,860
We cannot ignore capital crimes...
523
00:28:57,936 --> 00:28:59,028
...no matter where they occur.
524
00:28:59,104 --> 00:29:02,164
I reviewed your evidence
and they are circumstantial.
525
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,836
They don't even qualify for
a trial, neither here nor in New York.
526
00:29:07,312 --> 00:29:09,576
Does Manhattan propose to take to trial
to Mr. Brodus?
527
00:29:09,647 --> 00:29:10,944
Not at this time, Your Honor.
528
00:29:11,015 --> 00:29:14,473
So what is the purpose
of the temporary restraining order?
529
00:29:14,552 --> 00:29:17,487
Your Honor, the law does not allow
posthumous jurisprudence.
530
00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:21,184
If Mr. Brodus dies before proving himself
what happened, the truth will die with him.
531
00:29:21,259 --> 00:29:23,557
It's a trick to suspend execution,
Your Honor.
532
00:29:23,628 --> 00:29:25,459
The defense has exhausted its appeals...
533
00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:27,521
...and takes advantage of the
NY desperation.
534
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:31,865
The convict is in their custody and
It can be executed when you decide.
535
00:29:31,936 --> 00:29:34,769
The execution is scheduled
for midnight.
536
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:37,467
They will not interfere with our
ability to do justice.
537
00:29:37,542 --> 00:29:40,773
The convict will be just as dead
within six months.
538
00:29:40,845 --> 00:29:43,643
Your Honor, we are not seeking justice,
We only seek the truth.
539
00:29:43,715 --> 00:29:46,741
Considering the circumstances
and the accused in question...
540
00:29:46,818 --> 00:29:49,719
...I don't think I can get it.
541
00:29:49,854 --> 00:29:52,345
Very good, gentlemen,
let's take a break.
542
00:29:56,227 --> 00:29:58,092
What are the chances?
543
00:29:58,163 --> 00:30:01,189
It is difficult to evaluate.
I would say we are almost even.
544
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:04,663
And why that face?
You look like we've already lost.
545
00:30:04,736 --> 00:30:07,000
I'm not proud
help a serial killer...
546
00:30:07,071 --> 00:30:10,871
...avoid lethal injection
that he deserves so much.
547
00:30:12,544 --> 00:30:14,705
- Has the judge returned?
- Not yet.
548
00:30:16,447 --> 00:30:18,881
Are you looking to obtain
an exceptional authorization?
549
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:22,317
We only ask for an interview.
Nothing has changed.
550
00:30:23,922 --> 00:30:25,753
Swear you won't start
legal actions...
551
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,815
...no matter what Brodus says.
552
00:30:29,127 --> 00:30:30,617
I swear.
553
00:30:32,363 --> 00:30:35,457
I will arrange the interview.
Be ready in an hour.
554
00:30:40,305 --> 00:30:42,068
Try to unbalance him.
555
00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:44,506
When he pushes him, be his friend.
If not, press it.
556
00:30:44,576 --> 00:30:46,407
You will observe their body language.
557
00:30:46,477 --> 00:30:47,535
4 HOURS BEFORE EXECUTION
558
00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:49,580
You ask a harmless question,
I retreat.
559
00:30:49,647 --> 00:30:53,083
And look at his eyes. The serial killers
They have a particular look.
560
00:30:53,151 --> 00:30:55,676
It's a stare.
Like that of an animal when it hunts.
561
00:30:55,753 --> 00:30:59,655
-And when he's not hunting?
- He can't look you in the eyes.
562
00:30:59,891 --> 00:31:01,381
Anything else?
563
00:31:01,726 --> 00:31:03,421
You know, maybe it won't work.
564
00:31:04,295 --> 00:31:06,627
Won't trust us
and maybe it will continue until the end.
565
00:31:06,698 --> 00:31:09,633
You must be prepared
in case we run out of time.
566
00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:25,110
Hello.
567
00:31:25,283 --> 00:31:26,944
Detective Stabler.
568
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:30,287
I am Dr. George Huang.
569
00:31:32,924 --> 00:31:34,687
Behavioral science.
570
00:31:35,593 --> 00:31:39,927
Prescient agents who study
rats in a cage. How boring.
571
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,299
You are not boring, Mr. Brodus.
572
00:31:43,668 --> 00:31:45,568
You can call me Matt...
573
00:31:47,472 --> 00:31:48,700
Elliott.
574
00:31:50,308 --> 00:31:53,766
I don't read minds.
It's just that they advertise to my visitors.
575
00:31:54,512 --> 00:31:56,002
What is this about?
576
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,174
We decided to accept his invitation.
577
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:02,686
I don't mind the company,
but I don't remember inviting them.
578
00:32:04,889 --> 00:32:07,915
It also doesn't seem
very surprised to see us.
579
00:32:08,059 --> 00:32:11,358
Why would I be?
The FBI comes every day.
580
00:32:13,865 --> 00:32:15,799
Have you been helping us?
581
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,695
I have done everything possible.
582
00:32:18,236 --> 00:32:21,171
but they want
to admit things I haven't done.
583
00:32:21,239 --> 00:32:25,505
If it weren't for the lost women
and their poor families, I would laugh.
584
00:32:27,178 --> 00:32:29,146
- About what?
- Yours.
585
00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:33,179
They try to evade their own rules.
586
00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:43,126
What's so special
Our Lady of Light?
587
00:32:45,263 --> 00:32:46,628
Is it a church?
588
00:32:46,731 --> 00:32:50,223
A Catholic school. He mentioned
that he wanted to send his daughter there.
589
00:32:52,503 --> 00:32:55,165
I want him to receive the best education.
590
00:32:56,708 --> 00:33:00,337
- You don't have children, Matt.
- Are you sure?
591
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:05,814
Do you think a woman would accept
that I am the father of your child?
592
00:33:05,883 --> 00:33:08,852
What would you admit?
who slept with me? Come on.
593
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,717
Give me a name and I'll verify it.
594
00:33:10,788 --> 00:33:14,280
You will have to wait for them to determine
the validity of my will.
595
00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:22,962
Why didn't he kill
his girlfriend, Vivian Parish?
596
00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:24,566
He's insulting me.
597
00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:28,002
It's not my intention. Excuse me.
But I feel like if I had killed her...
598
00:33:28,072 --> 00:33:29,903
...they would have arrested him immediately...
599
00:33:29,974 --> 00:33:32,499
...and 13 women would still be alive.
600
00:33:32,577 --> 00:33:34,943
We all know that the file says 12.
601
00:33:37,081 --> 00:33:39,777
We both know it's wrong.
602
00:33:47,925 --> 00:33:49,790
Do you get anything for insomnia, Matt?
603
00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:52,352
Sleeping pills don't work. What time is it?
604
00:33:53,898 --> 00:33:55,866
8:33.
605
00:33:58,703 --> 00:34:01,228
- What's in the folder?
- It's a project.
606
00:34:01,305 --> 00:34:04,638
I am interested in your opinion
about the modus operandi of a murderer.
607
00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:09,246
- Is he still loose?
- Don't know. He hasn't attacked in a while.
608
00:34:09,313 --> 00:34:13,511
We wanted to review the D's of sadism:
weakness, dependence, degradation.
609
00:34:13,584 --> 00:34:15,347
Are you ready for that?
610
00:34:17,655 --> 00:34:19,782
Can I take a look please?
611
00:34:31,536 --> 00:34:35,438
- What is this?
- A forensic report on the body.
612
00:34:36,974 --> 00:34:39,499
How boring.
And the crime scene photos?
613
00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:41,909
There is a photo below the report.
614
00:34:41,979 --> 00:34:44,641
He says that the murderer
He tortured the victim.
615
00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:47,111
Any idea why?
616
00:34:56,694 --> 00:34:58,753
- No.
- Why not?
617
00:34:58,830 --> 00:35:00,957
You did the same with your victims.
618
00:35:01,032 --> 00:35:02,659
The big girls he chose.
619
00:35:02,733 --> 00:35:04,394
How Debbie Cooper was big...
620
00:35:04,469 --> 00:35:08,200
...we figured you would have some idea
why he tortured her so much.
621
00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:11,503
If I saw photos of the crime scene,
could help them.
622
00:35:11,576 --> 00:35:15,137
You don't need them.
Search your mind. You will see it.
623
00:35:16,514 --> 00:35:19,779
See someone else's work?
It can't be done.
624
00:35:20,051 --> 00:35:21,746
He dominates her.
625
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,182
It's easy for a man his size.
626
00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:30,920
He ties it with tape.
Play with her for a while.
627
00:35:31,262 --> 00:35:33,253
It increases its terror.
628
00:35:33,898 --> 00:35:38,392
It is not enough for him to see the terror
what it feels like when it leaves and comes back.
629
00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:42,599
But it won't kill her right away.
He wants to spend a few days with her.
630
00:35:42,907 --> 00:35:44,374
Now she must depend on him.
631
00:35:44,442 --> 00:35:46,569
But then you have to take it and open it...
632
00:35:46,644 --> 00:35:49,010
...to see what's going on in there.
633
00:35:50,081 --> 00:35:52,549
The knife goes in like
If I cut butter.
634
00:35:53,284 --> 00:35:55,081
It's very warm inside.
635
00:35:56,254 --> 00:35:59,587
But you must hurry. It will be cold soon.
636
00:35:59,724 --> 00:36:02,124
Why should you hurry now?
637
00:36:02,426 --> 00:36:04,053
To be born again.
638
00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:08,363
Shall we talk about religion now?
639
00:36:08,432 --> 00:36:12,334
No. What is the only place
where your mother can never leave you?
640
00:36:14,772 --> 00:36:18,606
Psychiatric nonsense.
They always blame mom.
641
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:22,737
Yes, yes. Why not? Look at your mother.
642
00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:23,905
Don't bring her into this.
643
00:36:23,981 --> 00:36:27,610
I couldn't stand it.
He left him with his grandparents.
644
00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:30,017
When they died, she gave him up for adoption.
645
00:36:30,087 --> 00:36:31,645
She went for me. He loved me.
646
00:36:31,722 --> 00:36:36,682
Matt, tell the truth. He got married.
She had a daughter with her new husband.
647
00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:41,391
And when she left him, she went with her
stepsister and abandoned you.
648
00:36:41,465 --> 00:36:45,026
Again. Obviously, I should hate him.
649
00:36:45,102 --> 00:36:48,731
He saw his true self
and it made him want to vomit.
650
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,702
How many times did you tell him
that I wish I had aborted?
651
00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:56,042
He never said that. She loved me.
He never said that, ever.
652
00:37:01,852 --> 00:37:02,910
This is over.
653
00:37:02,987 --> 00:37:05,751
We're not done yet, Matt.
He's helping us with this case.
654
00:37:05,823 --> 00:37:07,654
We talk about weakness and dependence.
655
00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:10,091
Now we will see
how they demoted Debbie Cooper.
656
00:37:10,161 --> 00:37:12,220
how many times
Was the murderer with the dead woman?
657
00:37:12,296 --> 00:37:15,129
What are you talking about? That's obscene.
658
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:18,427
- Think like the murderer.
- How will I know?
659
00:37:18,502 --> 00:37:20,970
Ask the analyst.
He should have treated psychopaths like this.
660
00:37:21,038 --> 00:37:24,337
It depends on how many times
the murderer visited the body.
661
00:37:24,609 --> 00:37:27,703
How many times did you visit
you to your victims?
662
00:37:28,045 --> 00:37:32,948
Hey, I just came back to see that they were
where I had left them. That's all.
663
00:37:33,117 --> 00:37:36,052
Not this guy. came back
to be with them.
664
00:37:38,656 --> 00:37:40,283
I can't help you.
665
00:37:44,395 --> 00:37:47,660
Do you think I will think badly of you?
666
00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:51,031
I swear, I never had sex with them.
after they died.
667
00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:53,093
The guy you're looking for is sick.
Very sick.
668
00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:55,832
But what woman alive
would be with you?
669
00:37:55,906 --> 00:37:56,930
Vivian Parish.
670
00:37:57,008 --> 00:38:00,842
I talked to her. He said that you had
problems reaching climax.
671
00:38:00,911 --> 00:38:03,038
If she said that, then the bitch lied.
672
00:38:03,114 --> 00:38:05,014
He's a cop, he should see the difference.
673
00:38:05,082 --> 00:38:07,482
I can do it, and I do it.
674
00:38:07,852 --> 00:38:11,982
It's in your nature. They say no
they want but in reality they do want.
675
00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:14,081
"No" means "yes."
"Yes" means "no."
676
00:38:14,158 --> 00:38:17,650
I should have gotten rid of the bitch
before he went west.
677
00:38:17,728 --> 00:38:19,662
I missed my chance by 20 minutes.
678
00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:21,357
But I knew him and I knew what to do.
679
00:38:21,432 --> 00:38:23,593
She was an idiot, a blind cow.
680
00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:26,466
Debbie just wanted
to be told she was pretty.
681
00:38:26,537 --> 00:38:29,802
He thought he was in an affair
of Harlequin. What a stupid bitch.
682
00:38:29,874 --> 00:38:31,205
Debbie?
683
00:38:35,012 --> 00:38:36,673
It escaped me.
684
00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:41,914
One of my Jersey girls.
685
00:38:41,986 --> 00:38:44,454
No, it's not.
None of them are called Debbie or Deborah.
686
00:38:44,522 --> 00:38:47,320
They don't match either
none of the middle names.
687
00:38:48,025 --> 00:38:50,619
Why don't you stop lying?
Tell us the truth.
688
00:38:57,268 --> 00:39:00,533
You know, you're not as smart as you think.
689
00:39:04,608 --> 00:39:06,200
What time is it?
690
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:09,811
- How many of these cases did you have?
- This is my second.
691
00:39:10,414 --> 00:39:13,247
If they hadn't summoned me,
I wouldn't be here.
692
00:39:13,317 --> 00:39:17,048
Can you ask for the death penalty
but you can't face reality?
693
00:39:17,121 --> 00:39:21,217
I do my job. I do it for
the families. I must not like it.
694
00:39:23,227 --> 00:39:25,787
- Move! Come on! Come on!
- What's happening?
695
00:39:25,863 --> 00:39:27,262
- Wait!
- Move! Move!
696
00:39:27,331 --> 00:39:28,764
- Hey!
- Move!
697
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,766
- Close it!
- Close it!
698
00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:35,035
What's up, Mr. Messinger?
Is anyone trying to escape?
699
00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:37,040
I don't know, sir, but
We will be safe here.
700
00:39:37,108 --> 00:39:39,440
This won't stop the execution, right?
701
00:39:55,693 --> 00:39:57,718
Debbie didn't resist.
702
00:39:58,596 --> 00:40:02,760
- Get him out! Get him out of there! Fast!
- Get him out of there!
703
00:40:06,537 --> 00:40:08,368
- Are you OK?
- Do they have it?
704
00:40:09,607 --> 00:40:11,734
No! That's what he wants!
705
00:40:18,215 --> 00:40:20,012
Do you know anything about Huang?
706
00:40:20,084 --> 00:40:22,450
It will be fine, but they want
Let him stay tonight.
707
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,080
- And Brodus?
- He is on an artificial respirator.
708
00:40:26,323 --> 00:40:27,620
- I'll tell the families.
- No.
709
00:40:27,691 --> 00:40:28,715
I think that's enough.
710
00:40:28,793 --> 00:40:32,194
They must know that he planned this.
I'll explain it to you.
711
00:40:32,263 --> 00:40:36,324
The only thing that worries them is
that we cannot execute it now.
712
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,961
The state cannot execute
to someone in this state. It's the law.
713
00:40:40,037 --> 00:40:42,801
While in a coma,
justice cannot be done. Too bad.
714
00:40:42,873 --> 00:40:46,639
You are wrong.
I have a confession about Debbie Cooper.
715
00:40:51,515 --> 00:40:53,449
They won't care.
716
00:40:54,485 --> 00:40:56,316
And you?
717
00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:01,682
Go home.
718
00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:11,863
DEATH PENALTY
719
00:41:11,936 --> 00:41:14,268
NO MORE MURDERS
ENDORSEMENT BY THE STATE
720
00:41:27,785 --> 00:41:30,447
you will NOT kill
721
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,500
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722
00:41:49,006 --> 00:41:50,234
This story is fictional.
It does not describe real people or events.