1 00:00:14,305 --> 00:00:15,597 ROBOCALLER 1: I'm so glad I reached you. 2 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,975 That last person I talked to liked me about as much 3 00:00:18,059 --> 00:00:19,561 as my mother-in-law. (CHUCKLING) 4 00:00:19,643 --> 00:00:21,604 hi there. You know, getting a hold of you 5 00:00:21,645 --> 00:00:23,857 is tougher than getting through boot camp. (CHUCKLING) 6 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:25,149 ROBOCALLER 3: You're the first person 7 00:00:25,232 --> 00:00:27,485 I reached in 15 minutes and I'm pretty tall. 8 00:00:27,527 --> 00:00:30,655 -(ROBOCALLERS CHUCKLING) -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 9 00:00:30,739 --> 00:00:35,659 ROBOCALLER 4: 10 00:00:35,701 --> 00:00:36,994 the reason for my call is... 11 00:00:37,036 --> 00:00:41,499 ROBOCALLER 5: 12 00:00:42,916 --> 00:00:45,377 ROBOCALLER 6: 13 00:00:50,674 --> 00:00:57,598 ROBOCALLER 7: 14 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:03,645 ROBOCALLER 8: 15 00:01:05,522 --> 00:01:12,529 -(OVERLAPPING CHATTER) -(MESSAGES PINGING) 16 00:01:13,530 --> 00:01:16,032 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -(BIRDS CHIRPING) 17 00:01:16,116 --> 00:01:17,535 are you there? 18 00:01:18,953 --> 00:01:20,288 are you there? 19 00:01:21,706 --> 00:01:22,916 are you there? 20 00:01:22,999 --> 00:01:26,293 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 21 00:01:31,257 --> 00:01:34,678 there was a solid year where I was pretty sure 22 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:37,388 he was either dead or in jail. 23 00:01:38,555 --> 00:01:40,891 I heard he got his shit together 24 00:01:40,974 --> 00:01:43,394 and was working at a gas station. 25 00:01:43,477 --> 00:01:46,648 guys. Uh, Patrick J. Pespas. 26 00:01:46,731 --> 00:01:47,565 SAM: There were times 27 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:53,404 but then years would go by when we didn't talk at all. 28 00:01:53,487 --> 00:01:55,864 sort of, assumed the worst. 29 00:01:57,490 --> 00:01:59,369 one day, I got a call from him 30 00:01:59,411 --> 00:02:02,080 and he sounded totally different. 31 00:02:02,122 --> 00:02:05,916 PATRICK J. PESPAS: (OVER PHONE) 32 00:02:39,033 --> 00:02:42,703 SAM: I'd already given up on the CDG story by that point. 33 00:02:42,787 --> 00:02:45,664 shot a few weddings, 34 00:02:45,748 --> 00:02:49,210 some foot stuff. -ACTRESS: (OVER SPEAKER) Mm. 35 00:02:57,134 --> 00:03:00,347 SAM: I didn't even know I had a Cousin Adam. 36 00:03:04,350 --> 00:03:06,186 and the scam that was still going on 37 00:03:06,268 --> 00:03:08,520 and he was down to come with me to Jersey. 38 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:11,106 bro. 39 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:12,358 (LAUGHS) 40 00:03:13,151 --> 00:03:14,569 SAM: I had no idea 41 00:03:14,651 --> 00:03:17,654 how much more insane telemarketing had gotten. 42 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:21,158 I was just happy that I was gonna see Pat. 43 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:23,912 (ENGINE ROARING) 44 00:03:27,289 --> 00:03:29,458 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 45 00:03:39,386 --> 00:03:41,804 it's gotta be, like, eight years now. 46 00:03:47,184 --> 00:03:49,602 (LINE RINGING) 47 00:03:49,895 --> 00:03:50,729 PATRICK: 48 00:03:50,813 --> 00:03:53,233 what's up man? -PATRICK: 49 00:03:53,315 --> 00:03:54,317 dude. 50 00:03:54,358 --> 00:03:56,194 lemme just... 51 00:03:56,276 --> 00:03:58,279 PATRICK: 52 00:03:58,363 --> 00:04:00,281 -SAM: You look good man. -PATRICK: 53 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:02,033 you look real good. 54 00:04:02,074 --> 00:04:03,410 -(CHUCKLES) -PATRICK: 55 00:04:03,492 --> 00:04:05,537 you fat bastard. 56 00:04:05,578 --> 00:04:07,789 -(GROANS) -♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 57 00:04:07,871 --> 00:04:11,001 my God. What a cute-- -Yeah. He's a fat, striped bastard 58 00:04:11,042 --> 00:04:13,419 -is what he is. -(SAM CHUCKLES) 59 00:04:13,503 --> 00:04:16,380 man. Gimme a hug, bro. Can we-- can we do a hug? 60 00:04:18,256 --> 00:04:19,800 man. 61 00:04:19,884 --> 00:04:21,302 I fucking respect you. 62 00:04:22,803 --> 00:04:26,390 Pat seemed like he was in a really good place. 63 00:04:26,473 --> 00:04:28,976 I'd actually never seen him look that healthy. 64 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:33,565 But Sue was a different story. 65 00:04:33,605 --> 00:04:35,566 me and Sue, um, 66 00:04:35,608 --> 00:04:38,235 we dated years and years ago. 67 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,404 you know, 68 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:44,283 I was a fuckup. And then she got cancer. 69 00:04:44,367 --> 00:04:46,744 And I did my best to take care of her. 70 00:04:48,371 --> 00:04:50,582 the radiation 71 00:04:50,622 --> 00:04:54,460 but it was worth it 72 00:04:54,544 --> 00:04:58,464 because now her cancer is in remission. 73 00:04:58,548 --> 00:05:00,299 SUE: Twenty-seven years we've been together now. 74 00:05:00,382 --> 00:05:02,427 SAM: You guys have been 27 years. Wow! 75 00:05:02,468 --> 00:05:03,803 from the moment I wake up 76 00:05:03,886 --> 00:05:05,929 my world revolves 77 00:05:06,014 --> 00:05:07,598 around him and vice versa. 78 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,808 that's... 79 00:05:09,893 --> 00:05:12,729 I don't know what I'd do if I lost Pat. 80 00:05:12,770 --> 00:05:16,231 I don't know what I'd do. And he feels the same way. 81 00:05:16,273 --> 00:05:17,901 thank you for letting us film. 82 00:05:18,609 --> 00:05:19,944 Really appreciate it. 83 00:05:21,278 --> 00:05:23,364 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 84 00:05:28,411 --> 00:05:29,496 You think? 85 00:05:29,579 --> 00:05:31,330 It is. A little bit. 86 00:05:33,791 --> 00:05:34,959 Are you? 87 00:05:36,210 --> 00:05:37,420 I am. 88 00:05:39,713 --> 00:05:40,589 I am. 89 00:05:40,631 --> 00:05:42,800 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 90 00:05:45,303 --> 00:05:49,848 when we began getting bombarded with pre-recorded robocalls. 91 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:52,726 -(CELL PHONE RINGING) -PATRICK: Massachusetts. 92 00:05:52,811 --> 00:05:54,687 Okay. Hello. 93 00:05:54,770 --> 00:05:56,147 I'm glad you picked up. 94 00:05:56,188 --> 00:06:00,109 I was getting my answering machine voice ready. (LAUGHS) 95 00:06:00,151 --> 00:06:04,822 ROBOCALLER 2: 96 00:06:04,864 --> 00:06:06,740 SAM: And they were just as deceptive 97 00:06:06,825 --> 00:06:09,035 as anything we had done at CDG. 98 00:06:10,661 --> 00:06:13,080 -SAM: Try it one more time. -ROBOCALLER 3: 99 00:06:24,509 --> 00:06:26,177 you're an officer, yes? 100 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:31,473 ROBOCALLER 3: 101 00:06:31,515 --> 00:06:34,059 I was just asking, you're an officer, yes? 102 00:06:37,147 --> 00:06:38,023 ROBOCALLER 3: 103 00:06:38,063 --> 00:06:40,859 listen, I can do the gold then. 104 00:06:40,941 --> 00:06:43,403 this is gonna help out locally, right? 105 00:06:43,485 --> 00:06:46,156 uh, my hometown. 106 00:06:46,196 --> 00:06:47,239 ROBOCALLER 3: 107 00:06:47,322 --> 00:06:48,407 great, great. 108 00:06:48,490 --> 00:06:50,993 Are you at the police department right next door? 109 00:06:53,162 --> 00:06:54,164 ROBOCALLER 3: 110 00:06:54,204 --> 00:06:55,582 (SAM AND PATRICK CHUCKLE) 111 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:58,709 SAM: There were always calls for Political Action Committees 112 00:06:58,792 --> 00:07:02,088 and half the robots would say they were cops. 113 00:07:02,171 --> 00:07:05,717 But then we started getting robocallers we actually knew. 114 00:07:06,259 --> 00:07:09,220 ROBOCALLER 4: 115 00:07:09,303 --> 00:07:10,721 SAM: Joe-- Joe Makko! 116 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:13,308 (CHUCKLES) 117 00:07:13,390 --> 00:07:15,601 guys. Uh, Patrick J. Pespas. 118 00:07:15,684 --> 00:07:17,562 uh, Joe Makko. 119 00:07:17,604 --> 00:07:19,647 ROBOCALLER 4: 120 00:07:21,691 --> 00:07:24,069 Officer Makko. -(CHUCKLES) 121 00:07:24,109 --> 00:07:25,528 right? 122 00:07:26,571 --> 00:07:27,864 ROBOCALLER 4: 123 00:07:27,906 --> 00:07:30,075 that dude's been dead for a year. 124 00:07:30,157 --> 00:07:36,039 that's... That's wild. That's some wild shit. 125 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,417 SAM: None of our old CDG friends knew very much about robocalls 126 00:07:40,459 --> 00:07:42,087 except for Billy Fedor. 127 00:07:42,127 --> 00:07:44,171 Who the fuck's making these robocalls? 128 00:07:48,259 --> 00:07:50,260 But where-- But from where? 129 00:07:50,303 --> 00:07:53,682 -Like-- -BILLY FEDOR: 130 00:07:53,765 --> 00:07:56,476 SAM: I knew he had worked for a big-time telemarketer 131 00:07:57,434 --> 00:07:59,937 but I also knew he fucking hated it. 132 00:08:00,020 --> 00:08:03,941 Billy worked there for years and he fucking knows everything. 133 00:08:03,983 --> 00:08:09,989 Billy has a big mouth and we want any dirt he's got. 134 00:08:10,072 --> 00:08:12,200 -Fucking Pat Pespas? -PATRICK: Yeah! 135 00:08:12,282 --> 00:08:15,369 it's me, man. 136 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:16,662 BILLY: Wow! 137 00:08:17,955 --> 00:08:19,290 Holy shit. 138 00:08:19,332 --> 00:08:21,126 um, 139 00:08:21,209 --> 00:08:22,794 I guess that... (REDACTED) 140 00:08:22,835 --> 00:08:23,962 huh? -Yeah. 141 00:08:24,045 --> 00:08:25,671 PATRICK: What did you think of that place? 142 00:08:26,714 --> 00:08:28,174 yeah. 143 00:08:28,257 --> 00:08:30,677 scam, right? 144 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,554 even worse. But, yeah. 145 00:08:32,635 --> 00:08:34,931 even worse. 146 00:08:34,971 --> 00:08:38,182 PATRICK: I'm-- I'm running an investigation into the scams. 147 00:08:38,268 --> 00:08:39,768 yeah? -PATRICK: Yes, I am. 148 00:08:39,810 --> 00:08:41,020 I mean... (REDACTED) 149 00:08:41,104 --> 00:08:42,521 ...are huge right now. They have people 150 00:08:42,604 --> 00:08:46,484 in Nevada, California. 151 00:08:46,567 --> 00:08:48,153 PATRICK: And you were calling for what? 152 00:08:48,236 --> 00:08:50,655 non-profits or... -Oh, yeah. We were doing 153 00:08:50,739 --> 00:08:52,781 non-- supposed "nonprofits." 154 00:08:52,823 --> 00:08:54,783 -"501-c-3s." -PATRICK: Okay. 155 00:08:54,825 --> 00:08:59,622 uh, we were doing the PACs, the Political Action Campaigns. 156 00:08:59,664 --> 00:09:01,458 you know, in this day and age 157 00:09:01,499 --> 00:09:05,419 they use it to their advantage. 158 00:09:05,502 --> 00:09:06,963 killing it. 159 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:09,049 -Just killing it. Killing it. -PATRICK: Collecting money. 160 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:12,218 um, robocalls now, uh, 161 00:09:12,302 --> 00:09:13,844 this artificial intelligence? 162 00:09:15,638 --> 00:09:17,807 but I also knew that everyone's jobs there 163 00:09:17,848 --> 00:09:19,559 are gonna be eventually in danger 164 00:09:22,937 --> 00:09:24,939 like, 165 00:09:25,023 --> 00:09:26,857 I haven't worked there in two-- over two years. 166 00:09:28,609 --> 00:09:30,111 next month. -PATRICK: Okay. 167 00:09:30,195 --> 00:09:31,780 And they still have me calling for them. 168 00:09:31,862 --> 00:09:34,448 now it's a bot. 169 00:09:34,531 --> 00:09:36,200 BILLY: You could have a real-life person 170 00:09:36,283 --> 00:09:40,288 closing sales for you without having to even pay them. 171 00:09:40,372 --> 00:09:42,331 -♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -SAM: It had been nine years 172 00:09:42,374 --> 00:09:45,043 since I contacted the Federal Trade Commission 173 00:09:45,125 --> 00:09:48,254 to find out how these kinds of places could still exist. 174 00:09:48,338 --> 00:09:52,383 And why the police involvement is always swept under the rug. 175 00:09:53,843 --> 00:09:54,677 Pat? 176 00:09:54,718 --> 00:09:56,054 But that's when Pat disappeared 177 00:09:56,137 --> 00:09:58,390 and the investigation fell apart. 178 00:09:58,473 --> 00:09:59,723 PATRICK: (OVER PHONE) I... 179 00:10:15,156 --> 00:10:17,533 SAM: I got back in touch with the actual guy 180 00:10:19,284 --> 00:10:21,245 and he was still willing to meet with us 181 00:10:21,286 --> 00:10:22,830 after all these years. 182 00:10:25,083 --> 00:10:26,543 what's up, man? 183 00:10:26,583 --> 00:10:29,004 I almost forgot. 184 00:10:32,257 --> 00:10:34,758 my travel papers. 185 00:10:34,843 --> 00:10:39,179 This is the crazy part. The program I'm on is so strict. 186 00:10:41,807 --> 00:10:45,687 from the pro-- 187 00:10:45,770 --> 00:10:48,940 giving me permission to take it with me. 188 00:10:48,981 --> 00:10:51,192 wow. Okay. -And to clue everybody in that, 189 00:10:51,276 --> 00:10:53,403 this kid's legit." 190 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:54,653 dude. 191 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:56,947 -Travel papers. It's like... -SAM: Shit. 192 00:10:57,823 --> 00:10:58,825 yeah, yeah, yeah. 193 00:10:58,908 --> 00:11:00,617 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 194 00:11:00,702 --> 00:11:04,289 -(CAR DOOR CLOSES) -(CAR ALARM BEEPS) 195 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:06,124 SAM: Thank you for taking the time to do this. 196 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:07,791 yeah. Well, this is the case 197 00:11:07,875 --> 00:11:09,127 -that really stood out... -SAM: Yeah. 198 00:11:09,169 --> 00:11:11,379 ...'cause I really wanted these guys to go to jail. 199 00:11:11,421 --> 00:11:12,880 are Keezer 200 00:11:12,963 --> 00:11:15,091 do you know? 201 00:11:15,132 --> 00:11:16,301 -One of them-- -I think they're both alive. 202 00:11:16,383 --> 00:11:19,846 I probably paid his mortgage a few times. 203 00:11:19,929 --> 00:11:22,307 I was one of their better callers. 204 00:11:22,390 --> 00:11:24,392 you did? 205 00:11:24,476 --> 00:11:25,893 yeah. -DAVID: Now, 206 00:11:25,976 --> 00:11:27,645 I'm having regrets 'cause we didn't go 207 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:29,104 -after you guys as well. -SAM: True. 208 00:11:29,146 --> 00:11:30,940 -(CHUCKLES) -PATRICK: There you go. 209 00:11:30,981 --> 00:11:33,192 obviously, there's a police union involvement. 210 00:11:33,276 --> 00:11:35,986 Fraternal Order of Police lodges partnered 211 00:11:36,028 --> 00:11:37,197 with Civic Development Group. 212 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,989 "Well, what if we change 213 00:11:39,031 --> 00:11:40,992 the office and we call it 214 00:11:41,075 --> 00:11:43,244 the Fraternal Order of Police Fundraising Center?" 215 00:11:43,328 --> 00:11:45,330 yeah, that's what-- that's what-- 216 00:11:45,372 --> 00:11:47,956 that's what the Civic Development Group did. 217 00:11:47,999 --> 00:11:49,333 it was-- 218 00:11:49,375 --> 00:11:51,752 the same CDG office. 219 00:11:51,835 --> 00:11:53,505 right? 220 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:54,797 it was... 221 00:11:54,838 --> 00:11:56,382 -So... -(OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 222 00:11:56,466 --> 00:11:58,677 right? -Pat, let me just... (CHUCKLES) 223 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,929 Why wasn't the Fraternal Order of Police 224 00:12:02,013 --> 00:12:04,140 held accountable? 'Cause it seemed like 225 00:12:04,182 --> 00:12:06,142 they were like this with Civic Development Group 226 00:12:06,184 --> 00:12:08,435 for... 227 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,396 for them, it's free money. 228 00:12:10,479 --> 00:12:12,148 Right? They didn't pay a penny. 229 00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:14,734 Ten percent of something 230 00:12:14,817 --> 00:12:16,695 is better than 100 percent of nothing. 231 00:12:16,778 --> 00:12:18,445 I mean it's just simple math. 232 00:12:18,530 --> 00:12:21,658 But aren't they-- they culpable in that crime? 233 00:12:24,494 --> 00:12:27,080 in my mind... -There are complications 234 00:12:27,163 --> 00:12:29,124 about going after police departments 235 00:12:29,206 --> 00:12:32,043 and Fraternal Orders of Police. Um... 236 00:12:32,127 --> 00:12:34,796 for example, like... -I... 237 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:36,880 these are police officers, you know? 238 00:12:36,965 --> 00:12:39,216 What do they know about telemarketing? 239 00:12:39,299 --> 00:12:40,135 reading the-- 240 00:12:40,218 --> 00:12:41,385 -like some of the evidence... -Right. 241 00:12:43,138 --> 00:12:45,765 communicating with presidents of the FOP. 242 00:12:45,848 --> 00:12:47,559 they were creating the scripts with them. 243 00:12:47,642 --> 00:12:49,728 yeah, we knew that. 244 00:12:49,810 --> 00:12:53,398 But-- but the dominant fundraising was done 245 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,776 by CDG people just masquerading as members 246 00:12:57,861 --> 00:12:58,903 of the Fraternal Order of Police... 247 00:12:58,986 --> 00:13:01,031 And the police knew they were masquerading. 248 00:13:01,072 --> 00:13:02,489 -DAVID: Right... -I mean... 249 00:13:02,573 --> 00:13:04,617 no. I know! -Like you said, it was such bullshit, 250 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:07,036 they knew. 251 00:13:07,078 --> 00:13:08,955 you can't say they didn't. 252 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:11,249 I understand that. -PATRICK: Okay. 253 00:13:11,916 --> 00:13:13,752 you know, look. 254 00:13:16,921 --> 00:13:18,965 there really is that kind of 255 00:13:19,049 --> 00:13:20,799 -symbiotic connection. -SAM: It seems like it. 256 00:13:20,883 --> 00:13:22,343 DAVID: We did a lot of investigations. 257 00:13:26,890 --> 00:13:28,682 fundraising effort. -Yeah. 258 00:13:28,767 --> 00:13:30,768 But you saw it in that particular one 259 00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:32,103 that you went after CDG for. 260 00:13:32,145 --> 00:13:33,729 and that-- -But you didn't go after 261 00:13:33,771 --> 00:13:35,190 the Fraternal Order of Police at all. 262 00:13:39,361 --> 00:13:41,780 lost their jobs. 263 00:13:41,862 --> 00:13:43,781 -That's great. -I felt no sympathy at all 264 00:13:43,864 --> 00:13:45,867 I'm sure you don't. 265 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:47,327 -It's just to me as a... -'Cause... yeah-- 266 00:13:47,409 --> 00:13:49,411 'Cause the business of-- of the boiler room 267 00:13:49,453 --> 00:13:54,125 so I did not care one whit 268 00:13:54,166 --> 00:13:55,502 that all of you guys were unemployed. 269 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:57,711 totally. Fair enough. -No, I hear you, 270 00:13:57,796 --> 00:13:59,005 -but you know-- -Did not shed-- 271 00:13:59,088 --> 00:14:00,130 -shed a tear. -SAM: Yeah. 272 00:14:01,882 --> 00:14:03,635 legitimizes it. 273 00:14:03,718 --> 00:14:04,927 Right. Yeah. 274 00:14:04,968 --> 00:14:06,471 you know? -DAVID: I get that. 275 00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:09,973 they moved to these PACs and it's like the Wild West now. 276 00:14:10,057 --> 00:14:12,059 Congress is gonna have to do something about that 277 00:14:12,143 --> 00:14:13,520 'cause the FTC cannot. 278 00:14:13,603 --> 00:14:18,400 PATRICK: Why can't the government just stop this? 279 00:14:18,482 --> 00:14:22,570 Because police unions are incredibly powerful. 280 00:14:22,653 --> 00:14:24,197 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 281 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,989 DAVID: That's the argument. 282 00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:27,908 who wants to be on the other side 283 00:14:27,992 --> 00:14:29,577 of the Fraternal Order of Police? 284 00:14:30,744 --> 00:14:32,038 that's crazy. (CHUCKLES) 285 00:14:32,122 --> 00:14:33,622 it makes sense. 286 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:34,664 Yeah. 287 00:14:35,833 --> 00:14:37,168 I mean... 288 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,421 SAM: Yeah. (CHUCKLES) 289 00:14:43,174 --> 00:14:45,260 this is like a tsunami 290 00:14:45,343 --> 00:14:46,343 ready to drop. 291 00:14:48,596 --> 00:14:50,056 like, nobody. 292 00:14:50,140 --> 00:14:53,351 15-dollars-an-hour, 293 00:14:53,434 --> 00:14:56,020 welcome to McDonald's," type of guy. 294 00:14:56,062 --> 00:14:57,354 I don't have a college degree. 295 00:14:57,439 --> 00:15:00,482 I don't got 100 initials after my name. 296 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:03,861 It doesn't say "Esquire" on my wall. 297 00:15:03,945 --> 00:15:05,155 Who knows what we're dealing with? 298 00:15:05,195 --> 00:15:07,489 And they'll-- they'll squash you like a bug. 299 00:15:11,369 --> 00:15:12,703 let's call ourselves fucking journalists. 300 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:13,913 -Fuck it. -We are journalists. 301 00:15:13,997 --> 00:15:18,375 SAM: We have to be in fear because of the truth. 302 00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:21,504 yeah, I am fucking scared. 303 00:15:21,546 --> 00:15:25,049 when you put it like that. Because if he's scared... 304 00:15:25,382 --> 00:15:26,508 Whoo! 305 00:15:26,551 --> 00:15:29,137 SAM: We were totally in over our heads 306 00:15:29,219 --> 00:15:32,682 and started looking to see if any real journalists 307 00:15:32,723 --> 00:15:34,392 were taking this thing on. 308 00:15:34,476 --> 00:15:37,062 So Pat and I reached out to Sarah Kleiner. 309 00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:39,481 She'd been writing about fundraising scams 310 00:15:39,564 --> 00:15:40,398 for years 311 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,484 and was the only reporter I'd seen 312 00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:46,070 who knew the police unions weren't the victims. 313 00:15:46,153 --> 00:15:48,322 But the charities are well aware of what's going on. 314 00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:50,908 they're well aware that this money is being raised 315 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:53,744 and that they are giving up most of it. 316 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,247 I didn't really think 317 00:15:56,330 --> 00:15:57,831 she'd take us seriously. 318 00:15:57,914 --> 00:15:59,958 But when I sent her our CDG footage 319 00:16:00,043 --> 00:16:02,711 she freaked the fuck out. 320 00:16:02,754 --> 00:16:04,005 SARAH KLEINER: I was giddy 321 00:16:04,088 --> 00:16:05,422 I mean, I had documents, 322 00:16:07,801 --> 00:16:09,260 but you guys had all the stories. 323 00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:12,388 we came at it from the other end. 324 00:16:12,429 --> 00:16:14,765 Yeah. What you're investigating has been going on 325 00:16:14,848 --> 00:16:16,476 very long time. 326 00:16:18,937 --> 00:16:20,604 it just keeps popping back up. 327 00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:23,400 just to give you an example, 328 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,111 IUPA, 329 00:16:26,193 --> 00:16:29,906 another group where we're seeing this huge amount of money 330 00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:31,533 is going into telemarketing 331 00:16:31,616 --> 00:16:34,786 and a teeny tiny amount is going into charity. 332 00:16:40,083 --> 00:16:42,960 17,000 dollars. 333 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:45,880 000 dollars. 334 00:16:45,963 --> 00:16:47,297 (EXHALES) 335 00:16:47,382 --> 00:16:49,676 SARAH: I tried to get IUPA to comment 336 00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:51,844 on the fundraising practices. 337 00:16:54,638 --> 00:16:57,349 would not return emails. They wouldn't respond. 338 00:16:57,434 --> 00:17:00,812 my grandma. 339 00:17:00,895 --> 00:17:02,396 they think they're doing good, 340 00:17:02,479 --> 00:17:06,776 but really they're enriching businessmen who have figured out 341 00:17:06,817 --> 00:17:08,110 in many cases, 342 00:17:09,654 --> 00:17:12,614 it's a civil penalty. 343 00:17:12,656 --> 00:17:14,991 -It's a slap on the wrist. -PATRICK: Yeah. 344 00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:17,286 SARAH: I actually tracked down one of the guys 345 00:17:17,328 --> 00:17:19,998 who owns different telemarketing companies. 346 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,000 I went into his office and he chased me 347 00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,334 into the parking lot. 348 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:24,876 -Did he really? -SARAH: He did. He-- 349 00:17:24,961 --> 00:17:27,671 what do you mean he chased you? -That's great. That's great. 350 00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:29,214 SARAH: (ON RECORDING) I have questions for you 351 00:17:29,298 --> 00:17:30,925 about your businesses and how much-- 352 00:17:31,009 --> 00:17:33,677 RICHARD ZEITLIN: Call the police because she's not getting out of here. 353 00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:35,305 You understand I want you outta here? 354 00:17:35,347 --> 00:17:37,015 I don't come to your house and block the front 355 00:17:37,057 --> 00:17:39,099 of your door. Don't come to mine. 356 00:17:39,183 --> 00:17:41,519 SARAH: You've raised 126 million dollars 357 00:17:41,561 --> 00:17:43,354 bye-bye. 358 00:17:43,395 --> 00:17:45,314 SARAH: And most of that has stayed with you 359 00:17:45,357 --> 00:17:48,526 and has not gone to charity. How do you justify that? 360 00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,987 I'm gonna come at you. 361 00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:52,864 Here's your license plate number. You know what I'm gonna do? 362 00:17:52,906 --> 00:17:55,866 I'm gonna track you down. See where you come from. 363 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:58,453 it was a little nerve-racking. 364 00:17:58,536 --> 00:17:59,912 SAM: Can we go on adventures with you? 365 00:17:59,995 --> 00:18:03,041 so... 366 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:05,292 We're picking up the gauntlet from you. 367 00:18:05,376 --> 00:18:08,546 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 368 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:11,006 SARAH: It's really cool that you have these stories 369 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:15,636 but I think that what you're really gonna need to do 370 00:18:15,719 --> 00:18:18,390 is find out more about the modern day CDG. 371 00:18:18,473 --> 00:18:19,473 Who is still doing this? 372 00:18:19,557 --> 00:18:21,266 'Cause we know it's still happening. 373 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:26,897 (LINE RINGING) 374 00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:28,191 -Yo! -MATT DEANE: (OVER PHONE) Aha! 375 00:18:28,233 --> 00:18:29,984 Pespas. 376 00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:33,446 Matt? -MATT: What's up, buddy? 377 00:18:33,530 --> 00:18:36,407 -ED HILGER: Speaking of dope... -Pat fucking Pespas. 378 00:18:36,490 --> 00:18:38,159 Matt. I'm calling... 379 00:18:38,243 --> 00:18:39,786 um, 380 00:18:39,869 --> 00:18:41,662 I'm kind of looking for a job. 381 00:18:41,745 --> 00:18:44,499 um, companies 382 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:46,291 that are hiring? I know some of the guys 383 00:18:46,375 --> 00:18:49,337 uh, that one place. 384 00:18:49,421 --> 00:18:50,588 dude. 385 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,723 well, um, what do they call for? The FOP? 386 00:19:00,598 --> 00:19:01,890 MATT: 387 00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:05,645 no-- -MATT: 388 00:19:05,729 --> 00:19:08,772 really? They bought CDG's old list. 389 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:10,358 MATT: 390 00:19:10,442 --> 00:19:14,194 um, you know, get going on this. 391 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:15,572 you know, I can call. 392 00:19:15,613 --> 00:19:17,656 if you hire me, 393 00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:18,949 I'm gonna hit the list. 394 00:19:19,034 --> 00:19:21,494 MATT: 395 00:19:23,537 --> 00:19:25,290 Matt. 396 00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:26,791 MATT: 397 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:29,461 -That's perfect. I will get that job. -There you go. 398 00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:31,129 uh... 399 00:19:31,171 --> 00:19:33,630 so be quiet. -SAM: Might as well answer... 400 00:19:34,131 --> 00:19:35,300 Hello? 401 00:19:36,634 --> 00:19:39,386 this is, uh, Patrick. What's up? 402 00:19:39,428 --> 00:19:42,223 TELEMARKETER: This is... (REDACTED) ...from... (REDACTED) 403 00:19:42,265 --> 00:19:45,810 beautiful. Hey, you know, I'm looking for a job. 404 00:19:45,894 --> 00:19:48,812 they know me. 405 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:52,609 bro. 406 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:53,692 TELEMARKETER: 407 00:19:57,447 --> 00:19:58,989 I got a laptop. 408 00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:02,494 TELEMARKETER: 409 00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:05,120 um, 410 00:20:05,162 --> 00:20:07,165 -is that gonna matter? -TELEMARKETER: 411 00:20:07,207 --> 00:20:08,333 perfect. 412 00:20:08,416 --> 00:20:11,211 great, great. Thank you... (REDACTED) 413 00:20:11,293 --> 00:20:13,046 TELEMARKETER: 414 00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:15,923 excellent. Thank you. Bye-bye. 415 00:20:16,006 --> 00:20:18,176 we hit the homerun... -SAM: Damn! You're a fucking legend, bro. 416 00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:19,385 huh? -SAM: Fucking legend. 417 00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:20,594 he called back quick. 418 00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:22,430 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 419 00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:25,391 how do I look in the wardrobe, like, 420 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:27,102 with-- with the glasses and everything? 421 00:20:27,185 --> 00:20:28,436 -SAM: Yeah. Yeah. -Yeah? It's good? 422 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,812 they're gonna see me, so... 423 00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:31,730 but I think you look good. 424 00:20:31,814 --> 00:20:34,025 you know. 425 00:20:34,109 --> 00:20:36,443 First day on the job you know. Come on. 426 00:20:38,363 --> 00:20:40,364 -(LINE RINGING) -(LAPTOP CHIMES) 427 00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:41,615 PATRICK: Hello? Hello? 428 00:20:41,699 --> 00:20:42,909 (OVER HEADSET) 429 00:20:53,211 --> 00:20:54,671 -(CHUCKLES) -MANAGER: 430 00:20:59,884 --> 00:21:00,927 Mr. Galvus. 431 00:21:01,010 --> 00:21:03,095 GALVUS: 432 00:21:03,178 --> 00:21:04,222 RECEIVER 1: 433 00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:08,475 -How you doing? -RECEIVER 1: 434 00:21:10,687 --> 00:21:13,355 calling for the Police Association of Virginia. 435 00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:14,649 -How are ya? -RECEIVER 2: 436 00:21:17,609 --> 00:21:19,194 You sound very young though. 437 00:21:19,237 --> 00:21:22,531 uh, gold level at 45, 438 00:21:22,573 --> 00:21:25,577 which is best for you? 439 00:21:25,660 --> 00:21:27,036 RECEIVER 4: 440 00:21:27,078 --> 00:21:28,245 RECEIVER 5: 441 00:21:28,328 --> 00:21:29,663 you want to do 55? 442 00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:31,666 They have the big booster at 35... 443 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:34,168 I feel bad closing these people. 444 00:21:34,251 --> 00:21:35,837 dude. 445 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,422 You're undercover. That's how it goes. 446 00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:39,965 PATRICK: My internet went down. 447 00:21:40,050 --> 00:21:42,427 So I just ran down the street to a McDonald's. 448 00:21:42,468 --> 00:21:43,635 Mr. Pearson. -PEARSON: Yeah. 449 00:21:43,719 --> 00:21:44,887 -Mr. Gomez. -GOMEZ: What's up? 450 00:21:44,928 --> 00:21:47,057 -Eddie... Betty... Kevin. -KEVIN: This is him. 451 00:21:50,977 --> 00:21:52,520 (LAUGHS) 452 00:21:52,604 --> 00:21:54,772 who's the best caller? Who's my competition? 453 00:21:57,150 --> 00:21:58,859 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 454 00:22:01,863 --> 00:22:03,489 this is Thomas Bailiff, Paul. 455 00:22:03,572 --> 00:22:04,782 I was calling with a thank you call 456 00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:07,369 on behalf of the Volunteer Firefighters Alliance. 457 00:22:07,452 --> 00:22:08,744 How are you-- 458 00:22:12,957 --> 00:22:15,542 TRAINER: 459 00:22:18,088 --> 00:22:21,048 I dug for dirt on the shady-sounding nonprofits 460 00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:22,217 that he was calling for. 461 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:23,760 Patrick J. Pespas 462 00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:30,641 ...the Texas Coalition of Police and Sheriffs. 463 00:22:30,683 --> 00:22:34,645 ...calling for the National Emergency Responders Coalition. 464 00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:37,774 SAM: And a bunch of them were affiliated with IUPA. 465 00:22:38,441 --> 00:22:39,526 The police union 466 00:22:39,609 --> 00:22:42,027 that Sarah Kleiner had told us about. 467 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,952 right? -TRAINER: 468 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,123 and they know what the scripts are 469 00:22:53,163 --> 00:22:54,457 right? 470 00:22:55,208 --> 00:22:56,333 TRAINER: 471 00:22:56,417 --> 00:22:58,211 cool. 472 00:22:58,293 --> 00:22:59,754 SAM: Pat was killing it. 473 00:22:59,838 --> 00:23:02,006 So... (REDACTED) ...took him off cold calls 474 00:23:02,047 --> 00:23:04,509 and put him on the big money campaigns. 475 00:23:05,135 --> 00:23:06,093 TRAINER: (OVER HEADSET) 476 00:23:06,177 --> 00:23:08,847 thank you for that. I really had to go, man. 477 00:23:08,887 --> 00:23:11,223 The doctor put me on some new medication 478 00:23:11,307 --> 00:23:13,727 and it seems to make me go whizz a lot. 479 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:15,020 TRAINER: 480 00:23:47,552 --> 00:23:49,511 my day, we didn't have PACs. 481 00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:50,889 Is that a new thing? 482 00:23:50,972 --> 00:23:52,557 TRAINER: 483 00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:54,725 Why the switch? What is the difference like... 484 00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:56,561 TRAINER: 485 00:24:00,064 --> 00:24:01,399 Did they really? 486 00:24:04,651 --> 00:24:06,363 it's easier to get a sale. 487 00:24:06,404 --> 00:24:10,199 TRAINER: 488 00:24:12,744 --> 00:24:14,078 that's cool. 489 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,874 so maybe we can make more sales. 490 00:24:17,916 --> 00:24:19,083 TRAINER: 491 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:22,253 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 492 00:24:24,255 --> 00:24:26,006 (OVER PHONE) 493 00:24:39,187 --> 00:24:41,271 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 494 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:43,650 SARAH: 495 00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:54,369 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 496 00:24:54,452 --> 00:24:58,248 I'm doing a little... 497 00:24:58,288 --> 00:25:00,125 you know. -CREW MEMBER 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 498 00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:02,126 -PATRICK: Ann Ravel! -ANN RAVEL: How are you? 499 00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:04,170 too. 500 00:25:04,254 --> 00:25:05,296 PATRICK: Thank you for your time. 501 00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:07,840 no problem. -Yes. May I call you Ann? 502 00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:11,010 of course you may. (CHUCKLES) -Okay. Oh, fantastic. 503 00:25:11,093 --> 00:25:13,512 you know, here, uh, 504 00:25:13,595 --> 00:25:15,181 -we're gonna play for you. -Okay. 505 00:25:15,265 --> 00:25:19,269 maybe, see what you think of this. 506 00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:26,234 I'm very bad with technology, so... 507 00:25:26,901 --> 00:25:28,569 BEEPS) 508 00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:30,989 PAC campaigns are completely different? 509 00:25:31,031 --> 00:25:31,906 That's me. 510 00:25:31,989 --> 00:25:34,659 The other guy is the guy who runs the office. 511 00:25:35,869 --> 00:25:37,161 but you just don't have to disclose 512 00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:38,746 that you're a paid caller for... (REDACTED) 513 00:25:38,829 --> 00:25:40,123 it's an easier call? 514 00:25:40,165 --> 00:25:41,916 -TRAINER: Yeah. -PATRICK: Beautiful. 515 00:25:44,001 --> 00:25:45,879 -do you have to tell them? -TRAINER: If you're calling 516 00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:49,298 -you do not have to tell them... -That's right. 517 00:25:49,340 --> 00:25:51,009 cool. Fantastic. 518 00:25:51,051 --> 00:25:53,260 -That gives me-- -(PHONE RINGING) 519 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,262 Whoa. Oh! 520 00:25:55,347 --> 00:25:57,640 -(RINGING STOPS) -PATRICK: I am so sorry about that. 521 00:25:57,682 --> 00:25:59,975 -But you get the idea. -I-- I do get the idea. 522 00:26:00,017 --> 00:26:04,521 -You get the idea. -They know it's so much easier 523 00:26:04,605 --> 00:26:08,776 uh, when you're a PAC 524 00:26:08,859 --> 00:26:13,197 than when you are a legitimate charity. 525 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,199 PACs are political 526 00:26:16,701 --> 00:26:19,119 they have First Amendment protections. 527 00:26:19,203 --> 00:26:22,874 people who were having to follow the rules 528 00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:26,211 uh, laws, 529 00:26:27,712 --> 00:26:30,381 "We're gonna go become a political PAC." 530 00:26:32,884 --> 00:26:35,135 which is people are defrauding people. 531 00:26:35,219 --> 00:26:36,970 you know, 532 00:26:37,055 --> 00:26:40,724 really. 533 00:26:40,766 --> 00:26:44,270 I'm a little new to the PAC game. 534 00:26:44,354 --> 00:26:45,479 -ANN: Mm-hmm. -Um... 535 00:26:45,562 --> 00:26:49,692 one of these ladies asked me 536 00:26:49,734 --> 00:26:51,735 what the PAC is really receiving. 537 00:26:51,777 --> 00:26:53,822 And he said they don't have to tell. 538 00:26:53,905 --> 00:26:56,865 They could be keeping 100 percent of that money. 539 00:26:56,907 --> 00:26:59,744 -We'll never know. -That's insane. 540 00:26:59,786 --> 00:27:01,745 crazy. It's crazy. -ANN: Crazy. 541 00:27:01,829 --> 00:27:06,083 we actually wrote to Congress 542 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:08,586 "You know, you need to deal 543 00:27:08,628 --> 00:27:10,546 with the scam PAC problem." 544 00:27:10,588 --> 00:27:11,964 It went nowhere. 545 00:27:12,047 --> 00:27:16,218 basically, the laws haven't caught up with the industry. 546 00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:17,177 ANN: That's correct. 547 00:27:17,261 --> 00:27:19,764 of course. 548 00:27:19,806 --> 00:27:21,765 Because I think it's straightforward fraud. 549 00:27:21,849 --> 00:27:22,850 It's bank robbery. 550 00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:24,144 -Legal bank robbery. -It is. It is. 551 00:27:24,227 --> 00:27:25,645 -I seem to agree... -ANN: Mm-hmm. 552 00:27:25,729 --> 00:27:27,062 -...with everything you say. -ANN: That's... 553 00:27:27,104 --> 00:27:28,772 You're very knowledgeable on the subject 554 00:27:28,857 --> 00:27:31,109 too. 555 00:27:31,192 --> 00:27:34,612 One of my aspirations is to testify 556 00:27:34,654 --> 00:27:36,739 you know? 557 00:27:36,781 --> 00:27:41,286 I... In a sense, you're being 558 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:43,704 which is a good thing. 559 00:27:43,787 --> 00:27:45,165 -Yes. Yes. -ANN: That is a good thing. 560 00:27:45,248 --> 00:27:46,833 -Absolutely. -ANN: Because you have 561 00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:54,965 "I saw this. 562 00:27:55,050 --> 00:27:57,885 I know this is what was being done 563 00:27:57,968 --> 00:28:01,598 I give you a lot of credit. 564 00:28:01,639 --> 00:28:04,141 -I really admire you doing that. -♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 565 00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:06,436 ANN: I could talk to some of my friends on the Hill. 566 00:28:06,478 --> 00:28:08,312 I'll do what I can to help you. 567 00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:11,107 I appreciate that. -I really will. You know that. 568 00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:13,859 Thank you. It was so good to meet you. 569 00:28:13,942 --> 00:28:15,779 -Really. Seriously. -(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 570 00:28:15,819 --> 00:28:17,864 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 571 00:28:17,947 --> 00:28:20,824 dude. Ann called me a whistleblower. 572 00:28:20,909 --> 00:28:23,661 I guess you could say I am a whistleblower. 573 00:28:23,744 --> 00:28:25,829 I never did. 574 00:28:25,871 --> 00:28:27,207 I always thought 575 00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:34,130 I guess you could say I'm a fucking whistleblower. 576 00:28:36,173 --> 00:28:37,926 SAM: We still wanted to get a police union 577 00:28:38,009 --> 00:28:40,135 to talk about this shit on the record. 578 00:28:40,177 --> 00:28:44,515 So we cold-called state FOPs from all across the country 579 00:28:44,557 --> 00:28:45,891 and asked them if they'd talk 580 00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:48,728 -about their fundraising. -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 581 00:28:48,812 --> 00:28:51,355 SAM: We even tried emailing the new president 582 00:28:51,397 --> 00:28:53,775 of the national FOP. 583 00:28:56,694 --> 00:28:59,864 except for the Florida State FOP. 584 00:28:59,906 --> 00:29:03,326 They even sounded eager for the opportunity. 585 00:29:03,368 --> 00:29:04,536 (SARAH CHUCKLES OVER PHONE) 586 00:29:12,376 --> 00:29:15,213 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 587 00:29:16,338 --> 00:29:17,381 Pat. 588 00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:21,093 Pat. 589 00:29:25,557 --> 00:29:26,807 Pat! 590 00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:29,269 ADAM BHALA LOUGH: Pat's having a massive panic attack right now. 591 00:29:29,352 --> 00:29:32,229 It's his first time on a plane. He's freaking the fuck out. 592 00:29:32,312 --> 00:29:34,189 Pat! 593 00:29:34,232 --> 00:29:36,026 -ADAM: You're gonna be good. -SAM: You're gonna be fine. 594 00:29:36,067 --> 00:29:37,735 The first step is just getting inside. 595 00:29:37,818 --> 00:29:39,446 -ADAM: Yeah. -Just don't even think past that. 596 00:29:39,529 --> 00:29:40,697 -All right? -PATRICK: Okay. 597 00:29:40,739 --> 00:29:42,614 -SAM: Let's just get you inside. -PATRICK: It's not like going 598 00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:44,491 is it? -ADAM: Nah. 599 00:29:44,576 --> 00:29:45,994 ANNOUNCER: (OVER PA) Regular boarding will begin 600 00:29:46,077 --> 00:29:49,121 in approximately ten minutes' time. Thank you. 601 00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:49,998 PATRICK: 602 00:29:50,081 --> 00:29:51,458 but, dude, 603 00:29:51,541 --> 00:29:53,208 it's not-- it's not possible. 604 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:54,376 PATRICK: 605 00:29:54,418 --> 00:29:55,628 And I'm driving-- 606 00:29:55,712 --> 00:29:57,463 bro. -PATRICK: 607 00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:01,217 ADAM: No. I need you at this shoot. 608 00:30:01,259 --> 00:30:03,010 PATRICK: I can't bring myself to do it. 609 00:30:06,431 --> 00:30:08,140 ladies and gentlemen, 610 00:30:08,223 --> 00:30:11,561 United flight 217 is closing doors in... 611 00:30:11,603 --> 00:30:14,938 please. 612 00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:20,569 I apologize. And I'm done. I'm out of here. 613 00:30:23,697 --> 00:30:25,449 -ADAM: All right. -PATRICK: 614 00:30:25,532 --> 00:30:27,535 SAM: All you have to do is get on the seat. 615 00:30:29,578 --> 00:30:31,121 (ADAM EXHALES) 616 00:30:31,206 --> 00:30:34,541 ♪ (HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKER) ♪ 617 00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:36,461 SAM: I think it's gonna be like a three-day trip. 618 00:30:41,423 --> 00:30:43,259 but I'd say it's gonna be three days. 619 00:30:43,301 --> 00:30:44,635 -SAM: Three-day trip. -PATRICK: We'll get there. 620 00:30:44,718 --> 00:30:46,470 yeah, yeah. -PATRICK: We'll get there in time. 621 00:30:46,512 --> 00:30:48,264 SAM: Did she say anything about this trip? 622 00:30:48,306 --> 00:30:49,223 Did you tell her? 623 00:30:49,307 --> 00:30:51,016 -PATRICK: Of course. -SAM: What did she say? 624 00:30:52,894 --> 00:30:55,979 "Look, Sam's your best friend. 625 00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:59,317 You started the project with him. See it through." 626 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:00,651 man. 627 00:31:00,693 --> 00:31:04,489 you know, she thinks I'm a complete idiot 628 00:31:04,572 --> 00:31:06,115 for not getting on a plane. 629 00:31:06,156 --> 00:31:07,826 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 630 00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:09,661 SAM: Oh shit! Supporter decal. 631 00:31:09,703 --> 00:31:10,911 PATRICK: There-- There we go. 632 00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:14,040 too. The red one's FOP. 633 00:31:14,124 --> 00:31:16,041 SAM: We're seeing these stickers everywhere. 634 00:31:16,125 --> 00:31:20,505 PATRICK: Everywhere. My guess this is FOP country out here. 635 00:31:22,506 --> 00:31:25,343 dude. This looks like great shit. 636 00:31:25,385 --> 00:31:27,845 bud. 637 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:30,181 Look at that fucking thing. (CHUCKLES) 638 00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:34,144 PATRICK: Oh! Right in his head. 639 00:31:34,769 --> 00:31:37,062 ADAM: 640 00:31:37,146 --> 00:31:39,024 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 641 00:31:39,064 --> 00:31:42,109 VOICEMAIL: You have one new voice message. 642 00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:44,612 First unheard message. 643 00:31:44,696 --> 00:31:46,947 NOEL: 644 00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:57,666 we get down here 645 00:31:57,708 --> 00:32:00,670 and the fact that these guys canceled 646 00:32:00,712 --> 00:32:03,005 is really burning my fucking ass. 647 00:32:03,047 --> 00:32:05,383 you know, we gave these people an opportunity. 648 00:32:05,467 --> 00:32:07,552 we were nice about it, 649 00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:10,889 and they all don't want to talk about it. 650 00:32:10,972 --> 00:32:14,058 now, we're gonna get a little pushy about it. 651 00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:17,103 "We're getting this interview. 652 00:32:17,687 --> 00:32:19,355 Michael Moore style." 653 00:32:19,396 --> 00:32:21,358 what's up? -SAM: Hey, how's it going? 654 00:32:21,399 --> 00:32:23,401 um, I'm here to see Noel. 655 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:26,905 -She said we're interviewing with her today. -OFFICER: 656 00:32:26,946 --> 00:32:28,197 PATRICK: What? 657 00:32:28,239 --> 00:32:29,406 SAM: Do you-- Can we just do 658 00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:31,534 -something with you guys? -OFFICER: 659 00:32:31,576 --> 00:32:33,411 -I'm the president of this organization. -PATRICK: No problem. 660 00:32:33,453 --> 00:32:34,745 I run this building. Step outside. 661 00:32:34,828 --> 00:32:36,956 gentlemen, have a nice day. -PATRICK: Thank you. 662 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,375 -Damn. -OFFICER: Take care. 663 00:32:38,416 --> 00:32:40,000 -Have a nice day. -(ADAM CHUCKLES) 664 00:32:40,084 --> 00:32:41,543 SAM: Let's get the fuck out of here. 665 00:32:41,586 --> 00:32:42,462 He was hot. I thought 666 00:32:42,545 --> 00:32:44,505 they were gonna physically attack us. 667 00:32:45,673 --> 00:32:49,010 but we realized 668 00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:52,430 IUPA. 669 00:32:52,514 --> 00:32:55,099 The one that Sarah had told us about 670 00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:57,644 and the one that Pat fundraised for undercover. 671 00:32:57,727 --> 00:32:59,354 ...throughout the state. 672 00:32:59,437 --> 00:33:02,607 SAM: Their national headquarters were three hours away. 673 00:33:02,649 --> 00:33:03,858 "Fuck it. 674 00:33:03,942 --> 00:33:05,567 Let's see what they've got to say." 675 00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:08,822 SAM: 676 00:33:08,905 --> 00:33:10,281 IUPA REPRESENTATIVE 1: May I help you? 677 00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:13,785 yeah. Um, my name is Patrick Pespas. 678 00:33:13,827 --> 00:33:15,869 I'm a freelance journalist 679 00:33:15,911 --> 00:33:19,290 and I am doing a documentary on fundraising 680 00:33:19,374 --> 00:33:23,962 uh, nonprofits and PACs, 681 00:33:24,045 --> 00:33:27,548 and your name has come up a lot. 682 00:33:27,631 --> 00:33:29,801 Do you think there's anybody I could talk to? 683 00:33:29,884 --> 00:33:33,930 IUPA REPRESENTATIVE 1: 684 00:33:33,972 --> 00:33:36,473 I traveled a long way. 685 00:33:36,557 --> 00:33:41,062 IUPA REPRESENTATIVE 1: 686 00:33:41,145 --> 00:33:43,147 man. 687 00:33:43,188 --> 00:33:44,357 Just tell her... 688 00:33:45,692 --> 00:33:46,942 IUPA REPRESENTATIVE 2: 689 00:33:46,984 --> 00:33:48,318 my name is Patrick J. Pespas. 690 00:33:48,402 --> 00:33:50,113 I'm a freelance journalist. 691 00:33:50,155 --> 00:33:52,781 IUPA REPRESENTATIVE 2: 692 00:33:52,823 --> 00:33:55,160 No problem. Thank you for your time. 693 00:33:58,829 --> 00:34:00,081 SAM: No comment. 694 00:34:00,123 --> 00:34:02,875 let's just go, Sam. Get out of here. 695 00:34:02,958 --> 00:34:04,878 SAM: Neither of us wanted to accept 696 00:34:04,961 --> 00:34:07,463 that this trip would be a wash. 697 00:34:07,505 --> 00:34:10,091 I tried thinking of ways to save it. 698 00:34:10,175 --> 00:34:11,551 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 699 00:34:11,634 --> 00:34:13,177 I'm pretty sure... (REDACTED) 700 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:14,511 ...lives out here. 701 00:34:15,303 --> 00:34:17,097 JEFF: (IN DISTORTED VOICE) 702 00:34:17,180 --> 00:34:18,350 yeah, yeah. 703 00:34:18,391 --> 00:34:20,268 he says that I should come see him. 704 00:34:20,351 --> 00:34:23,228 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(DOG BARKING) 705 00:34:23,312 --> 00:34:25,230 -SAM: How you been man? -JEFF: 706 00:34:26,106 --> 00:34:27,524 -SAM: Yeah? -JEFF: 707 00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:30,652 -So are you out of the industry? -JEFF: 708 00:34:30,695 --> 00:34:31,821 -You're done. -JEFF: 709 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:59,474 man. Um... Yeah. -JEFF: 710 00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:04,229 -What did you say? Sorry. -JEFF: 711 00:35:08,399 --> 00:35:09,775 -SAM: You wanna get some food? -JEFF: 712 00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:18,575 SAM: 713 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:24,249 JEFF: 714 00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:45,103 (RAIN PATTERING) 715 00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:48,397 PATRICK: The bribes. The bribes. 716 00:35:48,439 --> 00:35:52,652 I'm coming. 717 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:57,156 we found a story breaking in Texas 718 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,907 that changed everything for us. 719 00:35:58,949 --> 00:36:01,952 REPORTER 1: ...investigates a former police union president 720 00:36:02,037 --> 00:36:05,290 and tens of thousands of dollars in unexplained expenses. 721 00:36:05,331 --> 00:36:07,750 000 on a Caribbean cruise. 722 00:36:07,791 --> 00:36:11,920 Hundreds more at beach bars in Cozumel and Belize. 723 00:36:11,962 --> 00:36:13,590 600 dollars spent 724 00:36:13,631 --> 00:36:15,717 -on Houston Rockets tickets... -PATRICK: What... 725 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,802 bank records show, 726 00:36:17,843 --> 00:36:21,096 to the Houston Metro Fraternal Order of Police. 727 00:36:23,475 --> 00:36:26,102 Robert Lozano. 728 00:36:26,144 --> 00:36:27,103 Whoo! 729 00:36:27,145 --> 00:36:29,605 SAM: But this dude wasn't just stealing money 730 00:36:29,646 --> 00:36:30,939 from his union. 731 00:36:30,981 --> 00:36:33,610 too. 732 00:36:37,155 --> 00:36:39,031 that raised money for FOP programs 733 00:36:39,114 --> 00:36:40,699 to help needy kids. 734 00:36:40,783 --> 00:36:44,496 His company kept a large chunk of those donations 735 00:36:44,537 --> 00:36:47,290 and the rest went to the general FOP account 736 00:36:47,332 --> 00:36:49,125 that was bled dry. 737 00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:50,626 "Yeah, fine. 738 00:36:50,668 --> 00:36:54,172 He got kicked out of FOP Lodge 98 or whatever." 739 00:36:54,254 --> 00:36:56,174 But he denied any wrongdoing 740 00:36:56,257 --> 00:36:58,426 and was never charged with a crime. 741 00:36:58,510 --> 00:37:01,095 He kept his job as a cop. 742 00:37:03,681 --> 00:37:06,726 still raising money in the name of the police. 743 00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:08,353 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC FADES) ♪ 744 00:37:08,436 --> 00:37:10,646 we gotta talk to this guy. 745 00:37:10,688 --> 00:37:12,481 we just drove to Florida 746 00:37:12,523 --> 00:37:14,525 and they all backed out. 747 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:17,362 You really think this guy is gonna talk? 748 00:37:17,404 --> 00:37:20,197 "The blue wall of silence." 749 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,949 you know? -SAM: Yeah... 750 00:37:22,032 --> 00:37:24,326 -That's just what I've heard. -...that's what they call it. You're right. 751 00:37:26,955 --> 00:37:30,416 to land it, 752 00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,335 man. I gotta talk to this guy. 753 00:37:33,377 --> 00:37:34,878 dude. 754 00:37:34,962 --> 00:37:38,008 This is gonna make or break this whole fucking thing. 755 00:37:38,091 --> 00:37:39,926 SAM: I guess we're driving to Texas. 756 00:37:40,010 --> 00:37:41,927 ♪ ("DADDY JUST CALLED IT THE BLUES" BY JAMES TALLEY PLAYING) ♪ 757 00:37:42,011 --> 00:37:45,347 Lord And John the Conqueroo ♪ 758 00:37:45,389 --> 00:37:47,559 ♪ Shotgun shacks And railroads tracks... ♪ 759 00:37:47,642 --> 00:37:49,686 hats are big here in Texas. 760 00:37:49,728 --> 00:37:51,937 I'd like the color, but it needs to be bigger. 761 00:37:52,021 --> 00:37:54,565 -I think this is it. -SAM: Four hundred dollars? 762 00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:55,733 I have good cheeks. (CHUCKLES) 763 00:37:55,816 --> 00:37:57,318 SAM: What's the cheapest hat you have? 764 00:37:57,402 --> 00:38:00,071 let's-- let's try the Cody James. 765 00:38:00,113 --> 00:38:03,449 -♪ (SONG FADES) ♪ -♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 766 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,035 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC FADES) ♪ 767 00:38:06,076 --> 00:38:08,329 check it out, we're right across the street 768 00:38:08,413 --> 00:38:10,373 from where Lozano works 769 00:38:10,415 --> 00:38:12,625 and we saw a little barbecue pit. 770 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:15,919 hang out. 771 00:38:15,961 --> 00:38:18,715 this is gonna be messy. 772 00:38:18,757 --> 00:38:23,135 but it's good. Oh! That's some good stuff, man. 773 00:38:23,218 --> 00:38:24,803 SAM: I love investigative journalism. 774 00:38:24,887 --> 00:38:27,599 -People say it's a dying field. But it's-- -PATRICK: 775 00:38:27,681 --> 00:38:29,392 -SAM: Yeah. A lot of journalists-- -PATRICK: 776 00:38:29,434 --> 00:38:31,644 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -SAM AND PATRICK: Oh! 777 00:38:31,728 --> 00:38:34,480 there he is. Oh, shit. Yeah. 778 00:38:34,563 --> 00:38:36,231 quick, quick. Let's leave the food. 779 00:38:36,273 --> 00:38:37,608 It's right across the street. (CHUCKLES) 780 00:38:37,649 --> 00:38:39,319 go, go, go, go! (LAUGHS) 781 00:38:39,402 --> 00:38:42,197 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -PATRICK: Mr. Lozano! 782 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,825 excuse me, Mr. Lozano. 783 00:38:46,909 --> 00:38:49,120 Mr. Lozano. 784 00:38:49,204 --> 00:38:51,664 -I'm a freelance journalist. -SAM: Hey. 785 00:38:54,083 --> 00:38:55,250 shit. 786 00:38:55,292 --> 00:38:57,920 bro. Whoa! -(ENGINE REVS) 787 00:39:01,132 --> 00:39:03,259 SAM: Yo! (LAUGHS) 788 00:39:03,301 --> 00:39:04,760 PATRICK: Can you believe that? 789 00:39:04,802 --> 00:39:07,930 I didn't know what to do. I had like barbecue on my hands. 790 00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:11,935 I couldn't talk 'cause of food in my mouth. 791 00:39:11,976 --> 00:39:15,813 SAM: Dude these people can only ignore us for so long. 792 00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:17,731 We were in the middle of chasing Lozano 793 00:39:17,815 --> 00:39:20,402 when we finally got a breakthrough. 794 00:39:20,485 --> 00:39:23,571 His scandal had gone national. 795 00:39:23,655 --> 00:39:26,407 we're gonna get somewhere now. 796 00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:29,159 so they'd better listen 797 00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:30,620 because now they have a chance 798 00:39:30,662 --> 00:39:33,540 to get on the right side of this issue. 799 00:39:33,623 --> 00:39:36,208 SAM: We suddenly started getting calls back 800 00:39:36,291 --> 00:39:39,461 from lodges who'd been ignoring us. 801 00:39:39,503 --> 00:39:43,633 it was the head of the Texas State FOP. 802 00:39:43,675 --> 00:39:47,302 He had decided to stop using third-party telemarketers 803 00:39:47,344 --> 00:39:49,805 and was ready to talk. 804 00:39:52,934 --> 00:39:55,812 Connecticut and South Carolina State Lodges. 805 00:39:57,021 --> 00:39:58,939 They all told us we could interview them 806 00:39:59,023 --> 00:40:03,611 at the upcoming National FOP convention in Philly. 807 00:40:03,695 --> 00:40:06,572 -PATRICK: Yeah! -SAM: Whoo! We feel good? 808 00:40:06,656 --> 00:40:08,323 -♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -PATRICK: Hallelujah! 809 00:40:08,365 --> 00:40:11,452 God is smiling on us, bro. 810 00:40:11,535 --> 00:40:14,914 God has been smiling on this trip 811 00:40:14,998 --> 00:40:17,708 since I walked away from the plane. 812 00:40:21,253 --> 00:40:22,547 That's awesome! 813 00:40:25,133 --> 00:40:27,010 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC FADES) ♪ 814 00:40:29,386 --> 00:40:32,599 -PATRICK: There's my upstairs neighbor. -SAM: Oh cool. 815 00:40:32,681 --> 00:40:33,892 Anita? 816 00:40:33,933 --> 00:40:35,810 how you doing, Pat? You started your YouTube? 817 00:40:35,894 --> 00:40:39,438 yeah, you know. Travel America, baby. 818 00:40:39,521 --> 00:40:41,982 Pat is a good person. Pat is a-- Pat is a good guy. 819 00:40:42,066 --> 00:40:44,527 eh? -He did very well with his wife 820 00:40:46,654 --> 00:40:48,364 he did a damn good job. 821 00:40:48,406 --> 00:40:49,698 'Cause she ain't in there no more. 822 00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:51,450 -So he did a damn good job. -NEIGHBOR 1: That's good. 823 00:40:51,533 --> 00:40:53,035 -SAM: God bless you. -It gets no better than that. 824 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,581 you're a good motherfucker. 825 00:40:57,707 --> 00:40:59,458 it is. 826 00:40:59,541 --> 00:41:00,542 SAM: Do you know everyone? 827 00:41:00,584 --> 00:41:03,587 Patrick. What's up? 828 00:41:03,629 --> 00:41:05,423 -PATRICK: I'm going to Philly. -NEIGHBOR 2: Okay. 829 00:41:05,507 --> 00:41:07,092 PATRICK: I'll be gone four days. 830 00:41:07,133 --> 00:41:09,052 NEIGHBOR 2: Good. 831 00:41:09,093 --> 00:41:10,678 let me get my shoes on. 832 00:41:10,761 --> 00:41:12,429 SUE: I'm trying to get you guys out of here. 833 00:41:12,513 --> 00:41:14,808 PATRICK: I know. I'm trying to get my shoes now 834 00:41:14,891 --> 00:41:19,437 the suit, the whole nine yards. 835 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,064 I put these in the dry cleaners. 836 00:41:22,106 --> 00:41:23,273 this way you know, 837 00:41:23,357 --> 00:41:25,777 they're nice and cleaned and pressed. 838 00:41:25,819 --> 00:41:28,363 like, 839 00:41:28,446 --> 00:41:30,072 where they all get together. 840 00:41:31,281 --> 00:41:32,866 Pat told me. -SAM: Yeah. 841 00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:34,243 And what do you think about it? 842 00:41:36,705 --> 00:41:38,623 SAM: You think we might get our asses beat? 843 00:41:39,791 --> 00:41:42,209 seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven... 844 00:41:45,379 --> 00:41:47,298 "Get too fresh"? 845 00:41:49,718 --> 00:41:51,052 you know what? 846 00:41:53,595 --> 00:41:55,597 some of them don't. They-- the... 847 00:41:59,436 --> 00:42:02,646 there to do good, they love us. 848 00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:05,983 like, 849 00:42:06,066 --> 00:42:08,570 thinks we're a bunch of fucking assholes. 850 00:42:10,405 --> 00:42:11,406 I gotta go. 851 00:42:11,489 --> 00:42:13,157 (INDISTINCT CHATTER ON TV) 852 00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:14,700 PATRICK: 853 00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:16,995 -(SMOOCHES) -PATRICK: 854 00:42:22,166 --> 00:42:23,250 (CHUCKLES) 855 00:42:23,334 --> 00:42:26,128 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 856 00:42:27,756 --> 00:42:30,383 (BIRDS SCREECHING) 857 00:42:30,467 --> 00:42:31,843 this is getting... (CHUCKLES) 858 00:42:31,926 --> 00:42:35,304 There's no turning back now. There's 200 cops inside. 859 00:42:35,554 --> 00:42:36,638 Oh. 860 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,017 (LINE RINGING) 861 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:40,226 (OVER PHONE) 862 00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:43,937 so check this out, man. We're at the national FOP event. 863 00:42:44,021 --> 00:42:46,106 with all the presidents. We're, like, here. 864 00:42:46,190 --> 00:42:47,775 (JEFF LAUGHING) 865 00:42:49,652 --> 00:42:51,029 SAM: Do you have any ideas 866 00:42:51,071 --> 00:42:52,947 man? I'm gonna use that. 867 00:42:53,031 --> 00:42:56,784 JEFF: 868 00:42:56,825 --> 00:42:57,868 Yeah. 869 00:43:00,705 --> 00:43:02,707 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 870 00:43:03,583 --> 00:43:07,836 ♪ (PATRICK VOCALIZES LOUDLY) ♪ 871 00:43:07,878 --> 00:43:09,881 ♪ (SINGS INDISTINCTLY) ♪ 872 00:43:09,964 --> 00:43:11,841 ♪ ...I'll come up And get you from the grave ♪ 873 00:43:11,883 --> 00:43:15,969 ♪ Souls in the afterlife Cannot be saved ♪ 874 00:43:16,053 --> 00:43:17,763 SAM: Was that your death metal voice? 875 00:43:17,846 --> 00:43:20,684 That was me freestyling. 876 00:43:22,477 --> 00:43:23,728 (KNOCK ON DOOR) 877 00:43:23,812 --> 00:43:27,690 -PATRICK: Uh. Yes. -TOM HAYES: Hello. 878 00:43:27,731 --> 00:43:28,941 Tom? 879 00:43:29,024 --> 00:43:30,902 Tom. Tom. -PATRICK: Hey. Come on in, Tom. 880 00:43:30,944 --> 00:43:32,320 -How you doing? -Hi. I'm well. How are you? 881 00:43:32,404 --> 00:43:34,239 Tom. -Nice to meet you. 882 00:43:34,322 --> 00:43:36,824 as you know, we're doing a little documentary 883 00:43:36,907 --> 00:43:40,870 uh, we tried to chat with Mr. Lozano. 884 00:43:40,912 --> 00:43:45,583 Mr. Lozano is at the center of a, um, fundraising scandal. 885 00:43:45,666 --> 00:43:47,042 do you know anything about that? 886 00:43:47,084 --> 00:43:49,420 I-- I don't personally have any information on that. 887 00:43:49,503 --> 00:43:50,922 'Cause that was-- that was internal 888 00:43:50,964 --> 00:43:52,257 -to Metro Lodge. -Okay. 889 00:43:52,298 --> 00:43:54,718 HAYES: It was their program. It wasn't a state program. 890 00:43:54,759 --> 00:43:56,760 Robert Lozano never raised any funds 891 00:43:56,844 --> 00:43:59,430 on behalf of the state of Texas Fraternal Order of Police. 892 00:43:59,471 --> 00:44:01,433 okay. Cool. All right, cool. 893 00:44:01,474 --> 00:44:03,685 I-- I'm hearing rumors you guys 894 00:44:03,768 --> 00:44:05,270 are gonna stop fundraising? 895 00:44:05,353 --> 00:44:08,272 uh, telephone solicitation 896 00:44:08,313 --> 00:44:10,607 on behalf of the Texas Fraternal Order Police. 897 00:44:10,691 --> 00:44:13,194 and why was that? -It's a dirty business. 898 00:44:13,278 --> 00:44:15,739 I didn't want to wait to where it got to be 899 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:18,115 -a major controversy. -Interesting. 900 00:44:18,157 --> 00:44:21,452 'cause I'm trying to understand 901 00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:23,830 why the FOP lodges aren't able 902 00:44:23,913 --> 00:44:28,625 to get more favorable splits when it comes to fundraising? 903 00:44:28,667 --> 00:44:30,794 I-- It's just the nature of the business. 904 00:44:30,836 --> 00:44:32,129 I'm sure whoever was in charge 905 00:44:34,299 --> 00:44:36,718 I would hope they negotiated the best they could. 906 00:44:36,801 --> 00:44:38,218 I understand. 907 00:44:38,302 --> 00:44:41,305 I guess the FOP is just getting ripped off. 908 00:44:43,683 --> 00:44:47,395 now, on a national level, 909 00:44:47,479 --> 00:44:51,148 have you or anybody spoken to the national president 910 00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:53,360 about these issues that I'm discussing 911 00:44:53,443 --> 00:44:54,402 -with you today? -I never have. 912 00:44:54,486 --> 00:44:57,822 It never comes up in your meetings or anything? 913 00:44:57,864 --> 00:45:00,157 at the national level, I don't believe 914 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,618 I've ever been a part or heard a conversation 915 00:45:02,659 --> 00:45:04,746 pertaining to telephone solicitation. 916 00:45:04,829 --> 00:45:06,498 I don't believe the national does it. 917 00:45:06,581 --> 00:45:10,084 on the state level, you're doing no telemarketing. 918 00:45:10,167 --> 00:45:14,756 uh, still doing telemarketing? 919 00:45:14,839 --> 00:45:16,841 I have no idea. 920 00:45:16,883 --> 00:45:21,512 And I'm hearing that there's incentives issued 921 00:45:21,553 --> 00:45:22,888 to get that contract. 922 00:45:22,971 --> 00:45:25,809 you know, like backdoor deals. 923 00:45:25,850 --> 00:45:27,352 I've never heard of that. 924 00:45:27,394 --> 00:45:29,479 You've never heard anything-- any incentives 925 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,646 or anything like that? 926 00:45:30,688 --> 00:45:32,481 I had a little bit of contact with the people 927 00:45:34,149 --> 00:45:38,822 nor did I ever solicit anything, 928 00:45:38,863 --> 00:45:39,989 or hear of anybody else 929 00:45:40,031 --> 00:45:41,240 doing anything along those lines. 930 00:45:41,323 --> 00:45:43,283 given the nature of that business, 931 00:45:43,367 --> 00:45:45,495 -it wouldn't surprise me. -PATRICK: It wouldn't surprise you. 932 00:45:46,538 --> 00:45:47,497 So... 933 00:45:47,539 --> 00:45:49,666 um, maybe going downstairs 934 00:45:49,708 --> 00:45:51,542 and showing me around a little? 935 00:45:51,583 --> 00:45:52,793 I don't know what I'm gonna show you 936 00:45:52,876 --> 00:45:54,294 yeah, I can walk around and you can film. 937 00:45:54,378 --> 00:45:56,006 you don't mind? 938 00:45:56,089 --> 00:45:58,883 why don't we do that? We'll just walk around, look around. 939 00:45:58,925 --> 00:46:01,427 uh, we'll run into some of your friends. 940 00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:02,720 (CHUCKLES) You never know. 941 00:46:02,803 --> 00:46:04,221 if they see me 942 00:46:04,263 --> 00:46:06,056 they're gonna go the other way. 943 00:46:06,141 --> 00:46:07,809 -PATRICK: Ah! (LAUGHS) -They're policemen. 944 00:46:07,892 --> 00:46:08,810 PATRICK: That's funny. 945 00:46:08,893 --> 00:46:11,979 ♪ (UPBEAT TECHNO SONG PLAYING OVER SPEAKER) ♪ 946 00:46:12,062 --> 00:46:13,897 -(ELEVATOR DOORS OPEN) -(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 947 00:46:13,981 --> 00:46:17,027 yeah, we're gonna Have a good time... ♪ 948 00:46:17,068 --> 00:46:18,278 What are you recording for? 949 00:46:18,361 --> 00:46:20,697 PATRICK: We're doing a little documentary. 950 00:46:20,739 --> 00:46:22,448 -(ELEVATOR BEEPS) -On what? 951 00:46:22,531 --> 00:46:23,866 PATRICK: The FOP. 952 00:46:23,907 --> 00:46:25,993 we're doing a little story on it. 953 00:46:27,579 --> 00:46:28,955 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 954 00:46:33,125 --> 00:46:35,294 this is probably about as far as we should go. 955 00:46:35,377 --> 00:46:36,837 No one-- no one up here 956 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,508 no. No problem. 957 00:46:40,592 --> 00:46:42,718 cool. 958 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,511 you could see 959 00:46:44,595 --> 00:46:46,680 the head twist, you know. 960 00:46:46,722 --> 00:46:49,642 da, da." 961 00:46:49,726 --> 00:46:52,145 And then they see us in matching jackets. 962 00:46:52,228 --> 00:46:54,021 SAM: You guys were wearing matching jackets? 963 00:46:54,104 --> 00:46:56,565 his jacket and mine are pretty close. 964 00:46:56,607 --> 00:46:58,568 It was like we were twins. 965 00:46:58,610 --> 00:47:01,529 shit, who's that? 966 00:47:04,907 --> 00:47:06,617 (WHISPERING) I think it's hotel security. 967 00:47:06,658 --> 00:47:08,035 don't answer that. 968 00:47:08,118 --> 00:47:09,287 Are they gonna kick us out? 969 00:47:09,329 --> 00:47:10,830 pretend we're not here. 970 00:47:10,914 --> 00:47:11,998 ADAM: They're on to us. 971 00:47:12,082 --> 00:47:14,583 bro. 972 00:47:14,625 --> 00:47:16,460 they don't. 973 00:47:16,502 --> 00:47:17,461 PATRICK: Who? 974 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,714 PRODUCER: 975 00:47:19,798 --> 00:47:21,466 so all the cops canceled. -They both canceled? 976 00:47:21,508 --> 00:47:25,386 They-- they know. They know. It got around. 977 00:47:25,469 --> 00:47:28,138 well then there's no reason to be here. 978 00:47:28,180 --> 00:47:30,892 why are we gonna risk the footage that we have? 979 00:47:30,975 --> 00:47:35,521 (CREW MEMBERS SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) 980 00:47:35,604 --> 00:47:38,565 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 981 00:47:40,110 --> 00:47:41,319 SAM: 982 00:47:46,073 --> 00:47:47,449 PATRICK: That's him in the blue suit. 983 00:47:49,702 --> 00:47:53,206 SAM: 984 00:48:05,802 --> 00:48:07,302 he's there. 985 00:48:07,344 --> 00:48:10,514 Just go. We're going right up to him. I want him. 986 00:48:10,556 --> 00:48:14,102 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 987 00:48:20,274 --> 00:48:22,027 excuse me, Mr. Yates, right? 988 00:48:22,110 --> 00:48:24,320 right? 989 00:48:24,362 --> 00:48:25,363 -No? -Nope. 990 00:48:26,989 --> 00:48:28,365 PATRICK: Okay. 991 00:48:28,449 --> 00:48:29,491 um... 992 00:48:30,034 --> 00:48:31,368 sir. 993 00:48:31,995 --> 00:48:33,830 sir. 994 00:48:33,913 --> 00:48:36,374 man, I'm not a-- I'm not Mr. Yates. 995 00:48:36,416 --> 00:48:39,543 I understand. Now, I'm talking to you. 996 00:48:39,626 --> 00:48:43,173 doing a documentary. 997 00:48:43,214 --> 00:48:45,216 -YOES: On what? -PATRICK: About fundraising. 998 00:48:48,177 --> 00:48:49,470 He denied he was even him. 999 00:48:50,304 --> 00:48:51,263 SAM: 1000 00:48:53,391 --> 00:48:55,727 And I was very polite. He was talking to someone. 1001 00:48:55,810 --> 00:48:57,187 I stood there. I waited. 1002 00:48:57,228 --> 00:48:59,271 It wasn't like I tried to bum-rush him. 1003 00:48:59,355 --> 00:49:01,607 "Hi, Mr. Yates." 1004 00:49:01,690 --> 00:49:03,233 I'm not Mr. Yates." 1005 00:49:03,275 --> 00:49:06,738 SAM: 1006 00:49:09,948 --> 00:49:11,617 I'm calling him Mr. Yates? 1007 00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:12,993 you are. (LAUGHS) 1008 00:49:13,077 --> 00:49:14,829 PATRICK: Oh! That's why he said he wasn't him. 1009 00:49:14,913 --> 00:49:16,664 okay? 1010 00:49:16,748 --> 00:49:18,249 I fucked it up. 1011 00:49:18,333 --> 00:49:20,876 I apologize. I fucked that up. 1012 00:49:20,918 --> 00:49:22,753 I pronounced his name wrong. 1013 00:49:22,836 --> 00:49:25,215 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1014 00:49:25,507 --> 00:49:30,552 JEFF: 1015 00:49:41,188 --> 00:49:42,272 SAM: I was pretty convinced 1016 00:49:42,314 --> 00:49:43,899 that we'd hit the end of the line 1017 00:49:43,941 --> 00:49:46,069 and it was time for everyone to go home. 1018 00:49:47,362 --> 00:49:50,072 But then I started thinking back to Reverend James 1019 00:49:50,114 --> 00:49:52,866 and all the cops who were on the other side 1020 00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:54,243 of this thing. 1021 00:49:54,284 --> 00:49:56,996 REVEREND JAMES TRANKLE: There was a story in Chicago. 1022 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,165 "We're raising money 1023 00:49:59,249 --> 00:50:00,416 for the families of fallen officers." 1024 00:50:00,458 --> 00:50:03,168 And then didn't give a dime of it to any of them. 1025 00:50:03,252 --> 00:50:05,504 SAM: Maybe we'd been trying the wrong police 1026 00:50:05,587 --> 00:50:07,298 and we should be talking to a cop 1027 00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:09,384 who said he got fucked by the scam. 1028 00:50:13,804 --> 00:50:16,141 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1029 00:50:16,224 --> 00:50:17,726 MIKE BYRNE: It's very rare for an officer 1030 00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:19,310 to go against FOP. 1031 00:50:23,063 --> 00:50:26,943 the Fraternal Order Police gave me a medal. 1032 00:50:26,985 --> 00:50:29,446 The telemarketers got their share. 1033 00:50:29,487 --> 00:50:31,572 The company that owned the telemarketer 1034 00:50:31,656 --> 00:50:35,826 FOP got what was remaining. 1035 00:50:35,868 --> 00:50:37,662 uh, I didn't get anything. 1036 00:50:38,121 --> 00:50:39,289 I felt... 1037 00:50:40,123 --> 00:50:43,834 betrayed by my union 1038 00:50:43,917 --> 00:50:47,379 because the telemarketers didn't do this on their own. 1039 00:50:47,464 --> 00:50:52,010 hired them. 1040 00:50:52,093 --> 00:50:54,636 My main intention was to stop this 1041 00:50:57,056 --> 00:50:58,183 they would just keep on going. 1042 00:50:58,266 --> 00:50:59,434 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1043 00:50:59,517 --> 00:51:01,353 MIKE: It was a class action suit. 1044 00:51:01,436 --> 00:51:04,438 Four hundred disabled police officers. 1045 00:51:05,856 --> 00:51:08,360 We brought people who received phone calls 1046 00:51:09,986 --> 00:51:12,238 and they testified that they thought 1047 00:51:12,322 --> 00:51:15,282 that all of their money was gonna go to Chicago 1048 00:51:17,326 --> 00:51:20,121 or officers killed in the line of duty. 1049 00:51:20,205 --> 00:51:22,374 At no time did a telemarketer say 1050 00:51:22,457 --> 00:51:24,667 that the money would be put in a general fund 1051 00:51:24,708 --> 00:51:27,336 amusement park visits, 1052 00:51:27,378 --> 00:51:29,339 so forth. 1053 00:51:29,381 --> 00:51:31,257 PATRICK: What happened? What was the outcome? 1054 00:51:31,341 --> 00:51:35,344 the judge ruled that it was the telemarketers 1055 00:51:38,972 --> 00:51:44,562 um... 1056 00:51:44,645 --> 00:51:46,063 in other words, they blamed it 1057 00:51:46,105 --> 00:51:47,272 on the telemarketer themselves. 1058 00:51:47,356 --> 00:51:49,358 they blamed it on the telemarketers 1059 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,403 -themselves. -Same thing with CDG. 1060 00:52:01,371 --> 00:52:03,415 "You did a wonderful job." 1061 00:52:03,456 --> 00:52:07,084 nobody knows you. 1062 00:52:07,126 --> 00:52:08,335 take care, Mike. 1063 00:52:08,419 --> 00:52:10,379 Mike. Thank you, Mike. 1064 00:52:10,422 --> 00:52:12,424 Mike is a fucking great guy. 1065 00:52:12,507 --> 00:52:13,675 man. 1066 00:52:14,592 --> 00:52:16,343 they did him dirty. 1067 00:52:16,427 --> 00:52:17,761 -SAM: Dirty. -PATRICK: Dirty. 1068 00:52:17,845 --> 00:52:20,264 SAM: I don't know what it was about Mike Byrne 1069 00:52:20,305 --> 00:52:23,059 but it lit a new fire under Pat. 1070 00:52:23,101 --> 00:52:24,728 We're standing up for the little guy. 1071 00:52:24,769 --> 00:52:27,229 yeah, yeah, yeah. -Look, let’s not let-- 1072 00:52:27,271 --> 00:52:31,066 Let's not let what happened to Mike happen ever again. 1073 00:52:31,108 --> 00:52:33,945 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1074 00:52:34,029 --> 00:52:37,614 PATRICK: I was the guy that used to call for the money. 1075 00:52:37,656 --> 00:52:41,035 I'm the guy that feels really bad about it 1076 00:52:41,118 --> 00:52:43,288 and I just wanna make it right. 1077 00:52:43,371 --> 00:52:45,290 SAM: And the timing was perfect. 1078 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,417 Ann Ravel had kept her word 1079 00:52:48,459 --> 00:52:52,881 and got us a sit-down interview with Senator Richard Blumenthal 1080 00:52:52,964 --> 00:52:55,759 to see if he'd take up our case. 1081 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,927 He'd tried cleaning up the telemarketing industry 1082 00:52:58,969 --> 00:53:00,179 back in the '90s 1083 00:53:00,262 --> 00:53:03,767 and had always been one of CDG's top enemies. 1084 00:53:03,808 --> 00:53:08,312 If someone calls claiming to be the police 1085 00:53:08,354 --> 00:53:11,648 call the police. 1086 00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:13,400 bro. -Let's go to D.C. 1087 00:53:13,485 --> 00:53:16,112 what? I think it's 12 hours from here. 1088 00:53:16,154 --> 00:53:17,280 -Is it 12 hours? -SAM: Yeah. 1089 00:53:17,322 --> 00:53:19,114 well, then that's what we gotta do. 1090 00:53:19,156 --> 00:53:21,575 hey... -(SAM CHUCKLES) 1091 00:53:21,658 --> 00:53:24,662 -...it beats flying. (LAUGHS) -(SAM LAUGHS) 1092 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,756 PATRICK: This is it. 1093 00:53:34,839 --> 00:53:38,343 We have arrived. We are at the halls of power. 1094 00:53:40,969 --> 00:53:42,012 back here, 1095 00:53:42,054 --> 00:53:44,724 I wanna be taking a picture with... 1096 00:53:44,808 --> 00:53:47,185 And make sure you get a picture of me with the senator. 1097 00:53:47,268 --> 00:53:48,269 I will. 1098 00:53:48,353 --> 00:53:49,479 PATRICK: And I want it printed out 1099 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,689 -and I want to frame it. -SAM: Of course. 1100 00:53:55,860 --> 00:53:59,114 -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1101 00:53:59,155 --> 00:54:01,490 he could be here at any time? 1102 00:54:01,532 --> 00:54:02,700 -SAM: Yes. -PRODUCER: Are you ready? 1103 00:54:02,783 --> 00:54:04,326 -ADAM: Yeah. -PATRICK: I'm ready. 1104 00:54:06,287 --> 00:54:07,872 when he comes in, I'll take 'em off 1105 00:54:07,956 --> 00:54:10,750 -in a dramatic-type fashion. -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1106 00:54:10,833 --> 00:54:13,836 I think he is here. I see movement. 1107 00:54:18,341 --> 00:54:19,884 RICHARD BLUMENTHAL: Just put it in my pants. 1108 00:54:26,808 --> 00:54:31,604 -(INDISTINCT CONVERSATION) -BLUMENTHAL: 1109 00:54:38,945 --> 00:54:40,989 BLUMENTHAL: 1110 00:54:41,072 --> 00:54:43,657 I've never done-- 1111 00:54:43,741 --> 00:54:45,242 Senator. 1112 00:54:45,325 --> 00:54:47,162 Senator. 1113 00:54:47,245 --> 00:54:48,747 -Nice to meet you. -Good to see you. 1114 00:54:48,788 --> 00:54:50,498 how are you? 1115 00:54:50,582 --> 00:54:51,833 my name is Patrick. 1116 00:54:51,916 --> 00:54:53,625 good to meet you. 1117 00:54:53,709 --> 00:54:55,753 sir. -Okay. 1118 00:54:55,836 --> 00:54:58,506 um, 1119 00:54:58,590 --> 00:55:01,843 there's a billion-dollar scam being perpetrated 1120 00:55:01,926 --> 00:55:06,680 right under everybody's noses. 1121 00:55:06,764 --> 00:55:10,810 And the business model is telemarketing. 1122 00:55:10,894 --> 00:55:14,855 You have legitimate police organizations 1123 00:55:14,938 --> 00:55:18,485 getting together with telemarketers and... 1124 00:55:18,568 --> 00:55:21,112 (HESITATES) ...they're defrauding 1125 00:55:21,154 --> 00:55:23,614 the most vulnerable in this country. 1126 00:55:23,697 --> 00:55:26,617 fixed income. 1127 00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:30,789 when the telemarketer is done 1128 00:55:35,125 --> 00:55:36,627 it goes to the nonprofit 1129 00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:39,129 and then them boys get their hands on it. 1130 00:55:39,214 --> 00:55:41,383 The boiler room operations 1131 00:55:43,802 --> 00:55:47,471 they have convicted murderers calling for the police. 1132 00:55:47,554 --> 00:55:49,139 And you know what they're doing now? 1133 00:55:49,224 --> 00:55:53,853 PACs, 1134 00:55:53,937 --> 00:55:57,147 so this way they can skirt around regulations. 1135 00:55:57,231 --> 00:55:59,400 you know, compelling story. 1136 00:55:59,483 --> 00:56:02,696 Michael Byrne. 1137 00:56:02,779 --> 00:56:05,031 He got shot. He was nearly killed. 1138 00:56:05,114 --> 00:56:07,157 They raised millions of dollars. 1139 00:56:09,868 --> 00:56:10,829 not one dime. 1140 00:56:10,912 --> 00:56:15,000 Him and 400 Chicago police officers 1141 00:56:15,083 --> 00:56:18,961 had to sue to get the money to go to the right place. 1142 00:56:19,003 --> 00:56:22,340 there was a poor guy-- 1143 00:56:22,382 --> 00:56:23,925 let me just say, I don't know anything 1144 00:56:24,009 --> 00:56:26,635 I understand, 1145 00:56:29,013 --> 00:56:34,102 I enforced laws that protect contributors 1146 00:56:34,185 --> 00:56:35,437 to charitable causes. 1147 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,021 And I believe the Federal Trade Commission 1148 00:56:37,062 --> 00:56:39,732 has to do a more aggressive 1149 00:56:39,815 --> 00:56:44,738 and activist job of pursuing these fraudsters. 1150 00:56:44,821 --> 00:56:49,408 I have been to every commission in Washington 1151 00:56:53,538 --> 00:56:58,208 but the laws are not there to act most of the time. 1152 00:56:58,250 --> 00:57:00,919 you give me the details of who you've contacted 1153 00:57:01,003 --> 00:57:06,176 FTC, Ann Ravel, uh, every-- 1154 00:57:06,217 --> 00:57:07,885 I've been up and down Washington. 1155 00:57:07,968 --> 00:57:11,096 Vladeck-- -Well, we should get my staff 1156 00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:19,605 all the facts that... 1157 00:57:19,688 --> 00:57:22,524 and then maybe we can... 1158 00:57:23,318 --> 00:57:25,278 get in contact with the FTC. 1159 00:57:25,362 --> 00:57:27,238 we've already been in contact. 1160 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,657 Every agency I go to says 1161 00:57:30,741 --> 00:57:34,079 congressional action needs to be taken. 1162 00:57:34,162 --> 00:57:36,498 Their hands are tied. 1163 00:57:36,581 --> 00:57:37,999 We-- we need a hearing on this. 1164 00:57:38,083 --> 00:57:40,250 we need a hearing. We need to-- 1165 00:57:40,292 --> 00:57:43,587 We've had a hearing on some of the pandemic scams... 1166 00:57:43,629 --> 00:57:47,425 -All right. This isn't-- -...the false cures. 1167 00:57:47,467 --> 00:57:51,053 we'll have another hearing. 1168 00:57:51,095 --> 00:57:52,846 it needs be, and-- 1169 00:57:54,306 --> 00:57:57,227 we need to sit down and find out what you have here. 1170 00:57:58,019 --> 00:57:59,229 ADAM: 1171 00:57:59,270 --> 00:58:01,647 -PATRICK: Yes. -ADAM: 1172 00:58:01,730 --> 00:58:04,400 -Okay. -Congressional action needs 1173 00:58:04,441 --> 00:58:06,778 to be taken. Um... 1174 00:58:06,820 --> 00:58:09,280 before I leave... 1175 00:58:13,909 --> 00:58:16,788 -we will propose it. -You promise? 1176 00:58:16,830 --> 00:58:19,791 I have done this kind of work for a long time. 1177 00:58:19,874 --> 00:58:21,625 -I'm very focused on it. -PATRICK: I understand. 1178 00:58:21,667 --> 00:58:23,919 We'll do whatever we think is appropriate. 1179 00:58:23,961 --> 00:58:26,840 so we can meet with your staff and present-- 1180 00:58:26,923 --> 00:58:29,801 My staff is right here. They're gonna meet with you right now. 1181 00:58:29,884 --> 00:58:31,010 sir. 1182 00:58:31,093 --> 00:58:32,720 Senator. 1183 00:58:32,803 --> 00:58:34,471 sir. 1184 00:58:34,513 --> 00:58:36,516 grab your mic. 1185 00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:38,143 BLUMENTHAL: Oh. Sorry. 1186 00:58:38,226 --> 00:58:39,853 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1187 00:58:39,936 --> 00:58:43,480 -SAM: Can we get a photo? -ADAM: 1188 00:58:43,564 --> 00:58:45,190 BLUMENTHAL: I've gotta run. 1189 00:58:45,274 --> 00:58:47,944 sir. -ADAM: Thanks very much. 1190 00:58:48,028 --> 00:58:49,446 Adam? 1191 00:58:49,487 --> 00:58:51,822 -ADAM: Awesome. Amazing job. -Was it? 1192 00:58:51,906 --> 00:58:53,991 -Did I? It was good? All right. -ADAM: Yes. Yes. 1193 00:58:54,033 --> 00:58:56,410 SAM: So we'll do this same setup with his staff 1194 00:58:56,493 --> 00:58:57,996 if they come back again. 1195 00:58:58,038 --> 00:58:59,372 -ADAM: Yeah. -PATRICK: You may 1196 00:58:59,456 --> 00:59:02,708 wanna supply them with all the information and the facts. 1197 00:59:02,791 --> 00:59:05,419 like, have his staff go through it. 1198 00:59:05,461 --> 00:59:08,006 So I-- I don't think there'll be a problem. 1199 00:59:08,089 --> 00:59:11,176 I think there's a good chance he'll act. I really do. 1200 00:59:11,259 --> 00:59:13,677 CREW MEMBER: 1201 00:59:13,927 --> 00:59:16,555 SAM: 1202 00:59:16,638 --> 00:59:18,975 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1203 00:59:19,059 --> 00:59:20,643 uh... 1204 00:59:21,895 --> 00:59:25,147 practically. 1205 00:59:31,279 --> 00:59:32,364 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 1206 00:59:32,447 --> 00:59:35,032 STAFFER: 1207 00:59:35,074 --> 00:59:36,450 But was someone gonna talk to us real quick? 1208 00:59:36,533 --> 00:59:39,621 he said his staff is gonna be made available 1209 00:59:39,704 --> 00:59:41,915 to us to go over some stuff. 1210 00:59:41,998 --> 00:59:43,708 STAFFER: 1211 00:59:46,377 --> 00:59:47,544 PATRICK: Understandable. 1212 00:59:47,628 --> 00:59:49,547 STAFFER: 1213 00:59:49,631 --> 00:59:54,177 thanks-- Cool. -STAFFER: 1214 00:59:54,218 --> 00:59:55,928 ADAM: Thank you so much. We'll break down right now. 1215 00:59:56,011 --> 00:59:57,596 guys. -ADAM: Thank you. 1216 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,889 All right. 1217 01:00:00,725 --> 01:00:03,228 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1218 01:00:06,021 --> 01:00:09,608 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1219 01:00:10,275 --> 01:00:15,156 (LIGHT GUITAR STRUMMING) 1220 01:00:17,241 --> 01:00:19,118 Pat, how's your investigation going? 1221 01:00:19,201 --> 01:00:22,080 you do know we talked to the senator, right? Uh, 1222 01:00:22,122 --> 01:00:25,416 Ann Ravel hooked us up with Senator Blumenthal. 1223 01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:28,752 He did kind of promise me that he would look into it. 1224 01:00:28,794 --> 01:00:30,839 we followed up, 1225 01:00:30,922 --> 01:00:33,925 we heard nothing. We got crickets. 1226 01:00:33,967 --> 01:00:36,760 I don't know, I mean, you've talked to the FEC, 1227 01:00:38,762 --> 01:00:41,181 you've talked to members of Congress. 1228 01:00:41,266 --> 01:00:43,935 it seems like you guys have done everything 1229 01:00:43,977 --> 01:00:46,770 that you are able to do to get people 1230 01:00:46,854 --> 01:00:48,105 to pay attention to this. 1231 01:00:48,147 --> 01:00:50,107 I think you guys should be proud. 1232 01:00:51,818 --> 01:00:54,571 I'm back here with my producer. 1233 01:00:56,822 --> 01:00:59,450 and maybe police telemarketing scams 1234 01:00:59,491 --> 01:01:01,243 can never be stopped. 1235 01:01:01,285 --> 01:01:04,789 But Pat and I swore we would expose this industry 1236 01:01:04,831 --> 01:01:06,750 and we fucking did it. 1237 01:01:06,791 --> 01:01:09,126 dude. -Yeah, dude. We did it, bro. 1238 01:01:09,209 --> 01:01:12,839 man? Just in life, in general? 1239 01:01:12,922 --> 01:01:17,010 I-- You know, Adam had asked me one time if... 1240 01:01:17,093 --> 01:01:20,137 if I would consider running for office. 1241 01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:24,601 I've been thinking about that since he asked me 1242 01:01:28,062 --> 01:01:30,105 that might not be for me. 1243 01:01:30,147 --> 01:01:33,400 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 1244 01:01:36,946 --> 01:01:42,659 I have gone to great lengths to make myself 1245 01:01:42,743 --> 01:01:44,496 a productive citizen. 1246 01:01:48,416 --> 01:01:49,833 you tired, dude? 1247 01:01:51,293 --> 01:01:54,172 you know the deal. 1248 01:01:55,507 --> 01:01:56,841 SAM: I was in a pretty dark place 1249 01:01:56,883 --> 01:01:58,968 -when we met at CDG. -PATRICK: I know that. 1250 01:01:59,010 --> 01:02:01,387 you gave me hope, bro. 1251 01:02:01,470 --> 01:02:02,596 dude. 1252 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,306 You gave me purpose. (CHUCKLES) 1253 01:02:04,349 --> 01:02:05,934 buddy. -SAM: Here we are, buddy. 1254 01:02:06,017 --> 01:02:08,687 you-- you-- we family, man. 1255 01:02:08,728 --> 01:02:10,938 we've been through a lot together, man. 1256 01:02:11,897 --> 01:02:13,941 Got you a present. Um... 1257 01:02:19,531 --> 01:02:21,323 that's fucking great. 1258 01:02:26,037 --> 01:02:27,789 I'll have this forever. 1259 01:02:30,375 --> 01:02:31,959 dude. 1260 01:02:33,377 --> 01:02:36,131 yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. 1261 01:02:38,049 --> 01:02:39,843 you're a fucking legend, bro. 1262 01:02:39,884 --> 01:02:41,927 (PATRICK LAUGHS) 1263 01:02:42,011 --> 01:02:44,179 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1264 01:02:45,347 --> 01:02:46,558 ♪ ("OH HAIL NO" BY EL-P PLAYING) ♪ 1265 01:02:46,641 --> 01:02:48,810 ♪ Ever notice when you talk I just cut myself? ♪ 1266 01:02:48,893 --> 01:02:51,062 ♪ On some ultimate fuck you Go fuck yourself ♪ 1267 01:02:51,145 --> 01:02:53,397 ♪ Like that was so heartfelt You really touched yourself ♪ 1268 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:54,982 ♪ I loved the part Where you cried ♪ 1269 01:02:55,065 --> 01:02:56,358 ♪ I liked nothing else ♪ 1270 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,695 critical breach ♪ 1271 01:02:58,737 --> 01:03:00,822 beat minimalisimo ♪ 1272 01:03:00,905 --> 01:03:02,364 ♪ Make you spin Like you sniffing ♪ 1273 01:03:02,406 --> 01:03:03,449 ♪ That god particle ♪ 1274 01:03:03,532 --> 01:03:06,076 an odd article ♪ 1275 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,663 ♪ 1276 01:03:08,747 --> 01:03:09,789 ♪ Dawn treader rising ♪ 1277 01:03:09,873 --> 01:03:11,291 gliding ♪ 1278 01:03:11,374 --> 01:03:13,083 ♪ Shuffle through the tides Of slime smiling ♪ 1279 01:03:13,167 --> 01:03:16,420 ♪ Could be the high Or just mind control dying ♪ 1280 01:03:16,503 --> 01:03:18,423 ♪ Fuck it Throw me on the problem pile ♪ 1281 01:03:18,465 --> 01:03:21,009 ♪ I'm a grin from the garbage Stained parchment ♪ 1282 01:03:21,092 --> 01:03:22,927 ♪ Peeking out of my blinds In the apartment ♪ 1283 01:03:23,010 --> 01:03:25,429 ♪ Waiting for that "Hark hear That archangel calling?" ♪ 1284 01:03:25,471 --> 01:03:27,849 ♪ Pocket full of air Plus nothing to wear ♪ 1285 01:03:27,931 --> 01:03:29,768 ♪ I’ve been told I was put here to fail ♪ 1286 01:03:29,809 --> 01:03:31,936 ♪ Never ask me to hail ♪ 1287 01:03:31,978 --> 01:03:33,520 ♪ Never ask me to hail ♪ 1288 01:03:34,605 --> 01:03:35,939 ♪ Never ask me to hail ♪ 1289 01:03:36,023 --> 01:03:39,527 hail, hail, hail, Hail, hail, hail ♪ 1290 01:03:39,611 --> 01:03:42,614 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪