0 00:00:32,895 --> 00:00:36,805 BEYOND THE ASHES 0 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Based on true facts 0 00:01:50,154 --> 00:01:51,745 Gisella Perl? 1 00:01:52,322 --> 00:01:54,652 I'm Dr. Gisella Perl. 2 00:01:54,956 --> 00:01:57,082 I know, a very famous doctor, 3 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:59,482 - My mother told me everything about you. - Yes, did you? 4 00:01:59,558 --> 00:02:03,388 Yes, you said you were a lady remarkable, and a fantastic doctor. 5 00:02:06,325 --> 00:02:08,391 Come. Come. 6 00:02:17,497 --> 00:02:18,278 Three weeks. 7 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,056 At most. 8 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:24,498 Yes. Three weeks. It was exactly what my doctor told me. 9 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,931 Great. What is it called? 10 00:02:27,033 --> 00:02:28,933 Didi. Didi Goldstein. 11 00:02:29,036 --> 00:02:31,468 Didi Goldstein? Very well, 12 00:02:31,603 --> 00:02:34,430 Wait beyond for me. Yes? I need to eat something. 12 00:02:34,571 --> 00:02:36,469 I will... I will. 13 00:02:39,786 --> 00:02:40,668 Taxi! 14 00:02:42,773 --> 00:02:45,332 Oh, my God! 15 00:02:45,408 --> 00:02:47,966 Did you know that your Aunt Rachel was my patient in Sighet? 16 00:02:48,042 --> 00:02:50,669 Yes. I never met her. Not yet. 17 00:02:50,744 --> 00:02:53,404 Let's hope she arrives soon. 19 00:02:53,478 --> 00:02:55,239 Here are some more. 20 00:02:59,546 --> 00:03:02,276 Look at these shoes. 21 00:03:03,915 --> 00:03:07,273 Who uses this? Not a lady. 22 00:03:07,350 --> 00:03:09,839 A maid perhaps, Come. Not a lady. 23 00:03:09,917 --> 00:03:13,543 Haven't seen enough shoes yet? 24 00:03:13,852 --> 00:03:16,842 No, no, no. I want to see another one before buying. 25 00:03:23,355 --> 00:03:25,879 My dear lady. What do you think? 26 00:03:25,956 --> 00:03:27,751 Oh yes! 27 00:03:27,857 --> 00:03:30,983 These, these please me. 28 00:03:31,058 --> 00:03:32,921 They're very expensive, Dr. Perl. 29 00:03:32,992 --> 00:03:34,983 In Sighet he always wore the best. 30 00:03:35,060 --> 00:03:37,651 We had splendid things, what do you think? Beautiful! 31 00:03:37,728 --> 00:03:41,025 Oh! Beauty, you can't imagine beauty. 32 00:03:41,096 --> 00:03:42,790 But we're in New York, not Sighet. 33 00:03:42,863 --> 00:03:45,557 So stop looking Let's enjoy the beauty here. 34 00:03:46,798 --> 00:03:50,195 Oh, no... These... those are anything. 35 00:03:50,266 --> 00:03:52,978 These... oh, my God! 36 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:56,690 Giska, stop looking at your shoes! 37 00:03:57,643 --> 00:03:59,292 Giska, did you hear me? 38 00:03:59,370 --> 00:04:02,132 Stop looking at your shoes and go get the candles for Shabbat! 39 00:04:02,270 --> 00:04:04,101 Yes, Mommy. 40 00:04:06,870 --> 00:04:09,220 "Blessed are You, O Lord, Adonai, King of the Universe, who sanctified us... 41 00:04:09,220 --> 00:04:12,440 "with Your Commandments, and You commanded us light the holy Shabbat candles." 42 00:04:12,441 --> 00:04:14,431 - Amen. - Amen. 43 00:04:19,510 --> 00:04:23,605 Pap�? Daddy, I want to be a doctor. 44 00:04:24,146 --> 00:04:28,010 - Cilla, help your mother with the soup. - Yes, daddy. 45 00:04:28,431 --> 00:04:31,219 Daddy, did you hear? She said she wanted to be a doctor. 46 00:04:31,391 --> 00:04:37,226 - Dad, I want to go to University in Cluj. - I think it's a very good idea, Giska. 47 00:04:37,849 --> 00:04:40,989 - Moses! The only girl, and the only Jew. - A doctor? 48 00:04:40,991 --> 00:04:44,741 You won't be the only Giska. I also want to be a doctor. 49 00:04:46,651 --> 00:04:52,323 It's not enough that you graduated in a single year, and be the best in your class? 50 00:04:52,453 --> 00:04:55,284 Giska! Not enough? 51 00:04:55,511 --> 00:04:59,980 No, Daddy. It's not enough. 52 00:05:00,411 --> 00:05:03,544 Dr. Perl? Dr. Perl. 53 00:05:05,396 --> 00:05:06,554 Yes. 54 00:05:06,624 --> 00:05:07,782 The shoes! 55 00:05:11,451 --> 00:05:13,665 They're beautiful. 56 00:05:13,824 --> 00:05:15,944 Let's take them. 57 00:05:17,731 --> 00:05:23,389 I was supposed to go get her, and bring her. Do not accompany her on an expedition through the stores. 58 00:05:24,031 --> 00:05:28,388 In Sighet, Dr. Perl used to have things your way. 59 00:05:28,551 --> 00:05:31,402 I know. It's her way. She caught me off guard 60 00:05:31,471 --> 00:05:37,520 Listen, Didi. After what she went through, we have to help her. In the best way we can. 61 00:05:37,525 --> 00:05:43,202 I know Pap�. I know, but look at those new shoes. He doesn't even have a decent dress. 62 00:05:43,209 --> 00:05:44,832 Right... 63 00:05:47,851 --> 00:05:49,542 Sarah, what's going on? 64 00:05:50,711 --> 00:05:57,822 Rachel. My dear sister. Rachel, Rachel, died. 65 00:06:00,111 --> 00:06:03,467 Giska, I found Rachel. 66 00:06:06,631 --> 00:06:10,670 - Rachel, are you going on our train? - Yes. 67 00:06:10,831 --> 00:06:14,063 - I'll look after your mother, don't worry. - Gisella? 68 00:06:21,511 --> 00:06:26,869 When Rachel... When she died... 69 00:06:28,311 --> 00:06:31,462 When Rachel died, yes... 70 00:06:31,631 --> 00:06:34,065 Was she alone? 71 00:06:37,311 --> 00:06:43,431 Dr. Perl, I will look after your mother. Don't worry. 72 00:06:44,746 --> 00:06:45,689 No! 73 00:06:48,791 --> 00:06:51,041 This gave me food for thought. 74 00:06:51,111 --> 00:06:56,266 I think it's better that someone was with her. That someone was by your side. 75 00:06:56,971 --> 00:07:03,141 - Are you sure about this? - Yes, I know I was. 76 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:06,500 Yes. 77 00:07:08,151 --> 00:07:09,982 That's good. 78 00:07:10,065 --> 00:07:10,982 Yes. 79 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,800 MANHATTAN GENERAL HOSPITAL 80 00:07:13,821 --> 00:07:17,080 - I have to go back to work. - I have to do this, Daddy. 81 00:07:17,151 --> 00:07:21,109 Stop Giska! Are there no more doctors in the world? 82 00:07:21,271 --> 00:07:25,390 There are no women doctors in Sighet. - And you want to be the first? 83 00:07:25,390 --> 00:07:27,150 And there are no gynecologists. 84 00:07:27,391 --> 00:07:32,465 I don't want you to lose your faith. I don't want that you leave faith to which you obey, Judaism 85 00:07:32,465 --> 00:07:34,615 - No, Dad, I won't abandon... - No, you are my oldest daughter. 84 00:07:34,631 --> 00:07:36,180 My dear girl. 85 00:07:36,351 --> 00:07:42,184 You must get married and have children and be a good observant Jew. Be humble. 86 00:07:43,371 --> 00:07:47,743 I can get married, and be a good, observant Jew, 87 00:07:47,911 --> 00:07:50,744 And being a mother, and being a doctor. 88 00:07:50,911 --> 00:07:54,824 Gives life like a mother. That should be enough. 89 00:07:54,825 --> 00:07:57,998 Giving lives as a mother, and save lives as a doctor. 90 00:07:58,053 --> 00:08:02,541 He doesn't understand. Pap�? I could be very, very important. 91 00:08:06,231 --> 00:08:10,190 - Why does it have to be you? - Who else could it be? 92 00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:13,190 You can't be, at least for once, be like other girls? 93 00:08:13,351 --> 00:08:20,550 - Daddy, I'm going to make you proud. - My daughter, I already have it. 94 00:08:20,711 --> 00:08:23,590 Then I will make you prouder. See this book. 95 00:08:23,751 --> 00:08:28,586 - Yes, I remember. - I swear, Daddy. I swear on this book: 96 00:08:28,751 --> 00:08:34,541 Wherever I go, wherever the life takes me, and under any circumstances... 97 00:08:34,711 --> 00:08:40,394 I always... always, I will remain, a good, faithful Jew. 98 00:08:41,511 --> 00:08:46,426 Dr. Perl? Dr. Gisella Perl? 99 00:08:47,058 --> 00:08:49,426 - Dr. Perl? - Yes! 100 00:08:50,451 --> 00:08:55,861 Hello. I'm Esther Jacob from American Committee of the Jewish Relief Board. 101 00:08:55,881 --> 00:08:58,309 Hello. We met in Paris, there a few months... 102 00:08:58,309 --> 00:09:00,309 - And I got his ticket. - Oh! And he got me the ticket. 103 00:09:00,303 --> 00:09:02,923 I remember. 104 00:09:02,991 --> 00:09:03,696 - Great! Let's go? - Yes. 105 00:09:08,697 --> 00:09:10,711 - Sorry Esther, but... - Yes. 106 00:09:10,711 --> 00:09:14,584 I need to work again as a doctor. 107 00:09:14,611 --> 00:09:19,706 It will definitely go. Go work. Let's sort this out, are you okay? 108 00:09:19,871 --> 00:09:23,901 You don't understand. If I can't work... 109 00:09:25,071 --> 00:09:27,869 I can't live. 110 00:09:28,031 --> 00:09:33,740 What you need to understand, Dr. Perl, It's just that to work in this country... 111 00:09:33,911 --> 00:09:35,887 you need to ask first American citizenship. 112 00:09:35,972 --> 00:09:37,887 - Oh yes! - For sure. 113 00:09:38,751 --> 00:09:42,779 You also have to pass the exams at our Medical Commission. And I don't think you... 114 00:09:42,779 --> 00:09:47,348 - meet this requirement... - Sorry, Doctor, but I'm sure you understand... 115 00:09:47,350 --> 00:09:51,795 Dr. Perl is looking for your temporary visa. We apply for citizenship. 116 00:09:51,796 --> 00:09:55,661 - Congressman Bloom... - And Eleanor Roosevelt... 117 00:09:55,661 --> 00:09:58,661 at the request of Eleanor Roosevelt, has already set all this in motion. 118 00:09:58,670 --> 00:10:03,781 Well, it's very good. So maybe we can move with things faster, here. 119 00:10:04,951 --> 00:10:07,624 - Great. - Do you have any of your diplomas here? 120 00:10:07,791 --> 00:10:13,706 My diplomas, Doctor? Would you like to know where my diplomas are? 121 00:10:18,711 --> 00:10:23,499 Me too. Me too. 122 100:10:27,831 --> 00:10:34,270 For now I do this. All good. All good. 123 00:10:37,379 --> 00:10:40,782 So this is what it has to be for some time. 124 00:10:41,238 --> 00:10:43,862 It's fine. It's fine. 125 00:10:44,031 --> 00:10:47,140 - How's it going? - Run? 126 00:10:48,311 --> 00:10:50,747 The studies. For exams? 127 00:10:51,911 --> 00:10:53,425 Like this, like this. 128 00:10:54,591 --> 00:10:57,730 You know, I have to say this. You Americans are... 129 00:10:57,730 --> 00:11:01,461 far away, behind the Europeans, in medical advances. 130 00:11:01,631 --> 00:11:03,884 I'm very sorry, but long ago. 131 00:11:03,951 --> 00:11:08,546 You must have been a devil of medicine there in Hungary. 132 00:11:10,511 --> 00:11:18,785 - Was that something you heard? - No, but I imagine it was. 133 00:11:20,271 --> 00:11:21,503 Then. 134 00:11:21,503 --> 00:11:25,256 "I will keep pure and holy, both, my life and my heart." 135 00:11:25,671 --> 00:11:30,364 What was I. What I was. 136 00:11:31,951 --> 00:11:36,144 "And I will avoid all evil practices that may be harmful." 137 00:11:36,311 --> 00:11:42,859 "But if he transgresses them, through bad practice Mine, then, let the opposite fall upon me." 138 00:11:55,871 --> 00:11:57,272 Isn't it wonderful? 139 00:12:00,226 --> 00:12:02,665 Mazel tov! 140 00:12:15,211 --> 00:12:17,665 - Mommy! - Imre? 141 00:12:17,665 --> 00:12:21,665 - Imre, what is it? - The lightning will enter the house. 142 00:12:24,351 --> 00:12:27,502 Come to Mommy. come. Come! Come here! 143 00:12:27,671 --> 00:12:32,064 The lightning doesn't hurt you, my love. It will stay outside where it belongs. 144 00:12:32,231 --> 00:12:37,464 Oh, my God, Imre, silence. Close your eyes. Don't look, okay? 145 00:12:37,912 --> 00:12:39,620 Don't look. That's right. 146 00:12:39,631 --> 00:12:43,829 Oh, I'll sing for you, and so you don't hear the thunder, yes?. 147 00:12:44,029 --> 00:12:45,986 That's right. It's okay. 148 00:12:48,894 --> 00:12:50,458 Oh, my dear. 149 00:13:11,691 --> 00:13:17,650 And now, one of my personal favorites, By Strauss, the waltz "Blue Danube". 150 00:13:58,431 --> 00:14:01,610 He squeezes my finger tightly. They keep it really tight. 151 00:14:03,471 --> 00:14:08,678 Let's toast to a happy and healthy Baby Jacob. Our baby. 152 00:14:09,083 --> 00:14:10,728 - L'Chaim! - L'Chaim! 153 00:14:12,191 --> 00:14:18,744 - Gisella, come on. Join us, a L'Chaim, for the baby. - For sure. L'Chaim for Jacob, yes. 154 00:14:19,536 --> 00:14:20,863 L'Chaim! 155 00:14:21,511 --> 00:14:24,684 But you know, Didi, a cesarean section was not necessary. 156 00:14:24,751 --> 00:14:27,430 It could be completely avoided. 157 00:14:27,830 --> 00:14:31,030 If I were there, there wouldn't be problems. No problem. 158 00:14:32,311 --> 00:14:36,760 - That might not be allowed... - It wasn't my decision, Mico tried... 159 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,260 - She will deliver our next child. - And the next one, and the one after that... 160 00:14:41,283 --> 00:14:45,800 I think... I think it's not correct. Washing test tubes for people without the ability... 161 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,262 while others decide whether I can or cannot work, oh! It's not right. And you know that. 162 00:14:50,431 --> 00:14:53,258 - You, and everyone knows it. - Esther! Esther! 163 00:14:53,258 --> 00:14:54,830 But what exams are these? 164 00:14:54,831 --> 00:14:58,904 Things I learned in Cluj, 25 years ago, as a girl. 165 00:15:03,354 --> 00:15:05,904 Excuse me! Excuse me! 166 00:15:15,751 --> 00:15:20,188 - I'm Dr. Ruben. Gisella Perl, has anyone seen her? - I'm Dr. Perl. 167 00:15:20,651 --> 00:15:22,413 - I need help, please. - What is it? 168 00:15:22,413 --> 00:15:24,826 It's an emergency. Please, please. 169 00:15:25,191 --> 00:15:28,461 I'm an oncologist. My wife is in labor, the obstetricians are busy. 170 00:15:28,461 --> 00:15:30,411 They called a surgeon, but I don't know... 171 00:15:30,411 --> 00:15:32,869 The baby is trapped. But I don't want them to operate on her. 172 00:15:32,869 --> 00:15:35,429 I understand. Did the anesthesiologist medicate you? 173 00:15:35,471 --> 00:15:38,550 No. Not yet. Esther Jacob spoke to me about you last week. 174 00:15:38,711 --> 00:15:44,943 I trust her. My father was gynecologist in Cluj. Andrew Abrams. 175 00:15:44,943 --> 00:15:46,874 Is Dr. Abrams here? He could help me with my papers. 176 00:15:46,874 --> 00:15:49,947 Unfortunately he didn't survive. I'm sorry. Please come. 177 00:15:50,111 --> 00:15:53,421 - Is your wife also Hungarian? - Yes. Her name is Eva. 178 00:15:53,421 --> 00:15:54,421 Eve. 179 00:15:54,591 --> 00:15:56,424 - Give me some disinfectant. - Immediately, Doctor. 180 00:15:58,631 --> 00:16:01,785 - Give him a coat, please. - Here it is. 181 00:16:02,785 --> 00:16:04,785 - Calm down. - What is she doing here? 182 00:16:05,591 --> 00:16:09,014 She is an expert. Dr. Gisella Perl. 183 00:16:09,014 --> 00:16:11,128 She can still work. He hasn't taken the Bar exams yet. 184 00:16:11,191 --> 00:16:16,026 It will be present, and will not operate unless Let her think it is absolutely necessary. 185 00:16:19,351 --> 00:16:26,684 Eva is my wife. Now please Step aside and give Dr. Perl some space. 186 00:16:26,690 --> 00:16:34,785 - Okay, okay, do it your way. - Eva, I'm Dr. Perl. 187 00:16:34,951 --> 00:16:41,299 Now, let's breathe quickly, and don't force it do you understand? We're fine now. I'm with you. 188 00:16:41,451 --> 00:16:46,548 - How long have you been having contractions? How long? - 18 hours. 189 00:16:47,111 --> 00:16:51,581 - How has she endured this? - He's been at full effort for an entire hour. 190 00:16:51,751 --> 00:16:54,265 - What is the position? - Front. 191 00:16:54,431 --> 00:16:59,302 Eva, listen to me. Listen. Very good. Fast breathing. Quick. 192 00:16:59,304 --> 00:17:02,423 I'll examine her, and then turn the baby over. But I won't hurt the baby, okay? 193 00:17:02,591 --> 00:17:07,366 Very good. Fast breathing. Very good. Good. Good. 194 00:17:07,431 --> 00:17:12,061 God, help me. Today I have to bring this life into the world. 195 00:17:18,191 --> 00:16:22,150 - It's so beautiful! - You... you are our savior. 196 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:24,250 - Congratulations, Daddy. - Thanks. Thanks. 197 00:17:24,311 --> 00:17:26,120 If the baby was a girl gave him his name. 198 00:17:26,191 --> 00:17:29,901 That's what I usually ask for to all my patients. 199 00:17:30,071 --> 00:17:34,587 - God bless you, Dr. Perl. - Call me Giska, all my good friends do. 200 00:17:34,587 --> 00:17:35,587 They did. 201 00:17:36,751 --> 00:17:38,492 - You will be rewarded for this. - No, no, no. 202 00:17:38,492 --> 00:17:41,984 We were both rewarded in a way. You can't reward me more. 203 00:17:54,391 --> 00:18:00,069 - Welcome, ma'am. Careful. - Oh! Didi, this is perfect. 204 00:18:00,231 --> 00:18:06,942 I can see patients on the first floor, and live in the second, just as I did in Sighet. 205 00:18:07,111 --> 00:18:09,466 Sighet, Sighet, Sighet... 206 00:18:12,591 --> 00:18:18,823 Yes. Yes. Didi, this is wonderful. 207 00:18:18,991 --> 00:18:24,084 He delivered this baby, so he could give this furnished apartment in Central Park? 208 00:18:24,94 --> 00:18:27,541 - Yes, I told him I preferred Manhattan. - Instead of what? 209 00:18:27,711 --> 00:18:32,313 - Queens, where do Michael and I live? "I told you what was right to do, Didi, 210 00:18:32,313 --> 00:18:33,826 to repay me. 211 00:18:33,851 --> 00:18:36,784 But don't you think that's a little excessive? 212 00:18:36,951 --> 00:18:43,186 He trusted me. And, I saved his son, so... 213 00:18:43,351 --> 00:18:49,505 You know, a son is a great gift, Didi. The greatest gift. A sacred gift. 214 00:18:49,671 --> 00:18:51,941 And be able to be in position to make this happen... 215 00:18:51,941 --> 00:18:53,441 - This is empty. - What? 216 00:18:53,441 --> 00:18:57,020 - Your bags have nothing inside. - Very well, I have nothing. 217 00:18:57,191 --> 00:19:01,707 - Then why did you bring them? - Don't you think I can fill it... 218 00:19:04,231 --> 00:19:08,941 Well, I have to go. I have to take care of my baby. 219 00:19:09,111 --> 00:19:14,660 - Give that beautiful baby a kiss from me, will you? - It's fine. 220 00:19:43,671 --> 00:19:45,468 Dr. Perl. 221 00:19:47,631 --> 00:19:50,065 Doctor, please. 222 00:19:57,991 --> 00:20:01,225 Between. Quick. Quick. 223 00:20:04,071 --> 00:20:11,192 Come. I already held her. come, come. Take it easy. 224 00:20:11,224 --> 00:20:12,384 Poor thing. 225 00:20:13,071 --> 00:20:17,220 Shhh, Elizabeth. You don't know the new times. 226 00:20:18,191 --> 00:20:24,451 I had already heard about you. I'm not Jewish, but I didn't know where else to go. 227 00:20:24,471 --> 00:20:28,623 Came to me. I'm very satisfied. Oh, sorry, sorry. 228 00:20:28,791 --> 00:20:31,545 But do you know? I should talk to your parents. 229 00:20:31,711 --> 00:20:36,651 My parents died. I live with my uncle. 230 00:20:36,671 --> 00:20:40,550 He makes me work. I can't go to school. 231 00:20:41,711 --> 00:20:44,430 Was he the one who did this? 232 00:20:45,863 --> 00:20:47,689 Oh my God! 232 00:20:48,471 --> 00:20:53,907 Every night he gets drunk. He comes right to me and I always fight with him. 234 00:20:54,071 --> 00:21:00,467 I always fight. But today, when I went to the barn, he, he... 235 00:21:00,951 --> 00:21:06,580 I don't want to go back. I would rather die. 236 00:21:06,751 --> 00:21:10,545 You will not die, my dear girl. And you won't go back to him either. 237 00:21:10,911 --> 00:21:18,046 No. You will stay here with us. We have a lot of space. And go back to school. Now, come, come. 238 00:21:18,311 --> 00:21:22,941 - I can work. I work a lot. - Calm down now, calm down. 239 00:21:23,111 --> 00:21:28,423 I'll take her inside and lay her down, okay? You need to rest. Need to sleep. 240 00:21:28,591 --> 00:21:30,105 Thank you, doctor. 241 00:21:47,111 --> 00:21:51,070 Giska? Are you? Giska? 242 00:21:51,231 --> 00:21:54,350 - Yes. - � Jonas Ruben. 243 00:21:54,350 --> 00:21:56,701 I hope I'm not bothering you. 244 00:21:56,871 --> 00:22:01,820 Doctor Ruben, this apartment is so beautiful. I'll pay you so quickly... 245 00:22:01,991 --> 00:22:04,335 Don't worry, don't worry. I'm glad you like it. 246 00:22:04,335 --> 00:22:06,369 Listen, I want to be the first to tell you. 247 00:22:06,431 --> 00:22:08,662 You passed the final exam. 248 00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:15,028 - Giska, are you there? - Yes, Dr. Rubens. 249 00:22:15,191 --> 00:22:16,385 Jonas, please. 250 00:22:16,385 --> 00:22:19,185 Listen you should start to... 251 00:22:19,185 --> 00:22:20,365 work as soon as you have your approved citizenship. 252 00:22:20,365 --> 00:22:26,368 Yes, but since you mention it I ask, Is there something there, some kind of problem? 253 00:22:26,368 --> 00:22:29,260 It seems to be taking so long. 254 00:22:29,261 --> 00:22:30,471 Be patient Gisketa, 255 00:22:30,471 --> 00:22:34,041 Lots of formalities, just paperwork. Nothing to worry about. 256 00:22:34,211 --> 00:22:35,392 Yes? Nothing? 257 00:22:35,392 --> 00:22:37,783 Nothing, I promise. 258 00:22:39,311 --> 00:22:42,484 So it's very good news. Thank you, Dr. Rubens. 259 00:22:42,551 --> 00:22:47,325 - Jonas. - Jonas. I am very grateful to you. Thanks. 260 00:23:35,231 --> 00:23:40,070 The salon cannot continue without you, my love. Your audience awaits you. 261 00:23:50,511 --> 00:23:55,220 - So beautiful! - Welcome Mom. 262 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,270 It's about time! Where have you been? 263 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,029 - Oh! A doctor's work is never done. - Now the poem you wrote. 264 00:24:03,191 --> 00:24:07,787 - Came with that. - Yes, it's so beautiful. 265 00:24:07,787 --> 00:24:09,868 No, daddy. Pap�! 266 00:24:09,951 --> 00:24:15,786 Giska, says O�lia's speech, scene one of the third act. 267 00:24:17,351 --> 00:24:22,744 What a dear brother. My dear David. He was always a little Shakespeare! 268 00:24:22,911 --> 00:24:26,904 But not for me. For Helen. The second female doctor in the family. 269 00:24:27,071 --> 00:24:29,460 Enough! Enough! Too many doctors. 270 00:24:31,871 --> 00:24:39,186 Maybe anything for Rosie or Cilla? Come on Cilla. There must be something you want, 271 00:24:39,351 --> 00:24:44,029 Something we both want. Sing. 272 00:24:46,191 --> 00:24:49,388 - Yes, count on me. Yes? - Let's sing. 273 00:25:40,831 --> 00:25:44,623 Dr. Perl, I wanted to start by congratulating her for passing his medical exams. 274 00:25:44,623 --> 00:25:45,123 Yes? Thanks. 275 00:25:45,791 --> 00:25:50,228 INS asked you to come here today, because there are questions raised... 276 00:25:50,391 --> 00:25:56,511 - on the case of applying for citizenship. - Can you answer that? 277 00:25:56,671 --> 00:26:00,004 Questions? What kind of questions? Questions... 278 00:26:00,084 --> 00:26:02:783 - doctors? - If it's a question of medical competence... 279 00:26:02:783 --> 00:26:03:967 - No! No! -... I guarantee you... 280 00:26:03,971 --> 00:26:08,365 - Ethical questions, Dr. Perl. - I don't understand. 281 00:26:08,431 --> 00:26:11,269 Questions about what happened during the war. 282 00:26:11,271 --> 00:26:14,134 What do you mean, during the war? During the war, how will I know, 283 00:26:14,134 --> 00:26:19,268 I was in Auschwitz. Maybe it's not clear in my order. 284 00:26:19,431 --> 00:26:22,264 No, what you did during the war. 285 00:26:22,431 --> 00:26:24,991 It's just bureaucracy. A formality. 286 00:26:25,151 --> 00:26:28,255 If you can present witnesses, people that can testify to your character. 287 00:26:28,255 --> 00:26:30,255 Oh! I can testify that... 288 00:26:30,671 --> 00:26:34,710 - Testimonies from the past. - One minute, please. I... I... 289 00:26:34,871 --> 00:26:39,581 Sorry, but I don't know anyone de Sighet here in New York right now. 290 00:26:39,751 --> 00:26:46,829 No one who survived. obviously There are no witnesses who can testify... 291 00:26:46,891 --> 00:26:51,187 Maybe I can find someone. You never know. 292 00:26:51,351 --> 00:26:57,221 - What is at stake in my character, please? - You can sit down. Be at ease. 293 00:26:57,391 --> 00:26:59,169 Sit down, Dr. Perl. 294 00:26:59,191 --> 00:27:06,027 As you know Dr. Perl, you are one of the first refugees to arrive in New York. 295 00:27:06,191 --> 00:27:09,190 We confirm that you are who you say you are. 296 00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:13,380 Do you think I would fake it? Who else do you think I could be? 297 00:27:13,551 --> 00:27:19,103 There are a lot of people entering the country, Dr. Perl, Good and bad. And you must understand... 298 00:27:19,271 --> 00:27:23,423 - Dr. Perl is very respectful... - No, no. Now I know. I understand. 299 00:27:23,591 --> 00:27:27,550 You're telling me I'm suspected of being one of the bad guys. �? 300 00:27:27,711 --> 00:27:32,670 And asking me to prove it to you that I'm one of the good ones. 301 00:27:32,831 --> 00:27:35,221 Dr. Perl, we know you've been in several Fields. 302 00:27:35,391 --> 00:27:41,090 Fields? That's what you call to Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen, in America? 303 00:27:41,091 --> 00:27:44,585 Fields? Places where your Do children go on vacation? 304 00:27:44,671 --> 00:26:49,828 - Gentlemen, you will certainly understand... - And we know that while you were in these Fields... 305 00:27:49,831 --> 00:27:54,539 For your privileges, as a doctor, you He had very close contacts with the Nazis. 306 00:27:54,631 --> 00:27:56,467 Very close contacts. 307 00:28:00,467 --> 00:28:05,134 Close, yes. Yes, a pistol in the temple, a boot in the throat. 308 00:28:05,134 --> 00:28:07,467 Very painful contacts. 309 00:28:07,631 --> 00:28:14,757 You worked as a doctor alongside German doctors. Nazi doctors. Yes or no? 310 00:28:16,231 --> 00:28:20,941 - The German doctors were there, of course, but... - Nazi doctors! 311 00:28:21,111 --> 00:28:24,547 And did you collaborate with them? Yes, or no? 312 00:28:30,351 --> 00:28:34,549 - Gisella! - Gentlemen, do you have any idea what she went through? 313 00:28:34,711 --> 00:28:39,542 Gisella, please. Please sit down. It's okay. 314 00:28:45,671 --> 00:28:47,263 Please. 315 00:28:49,431 --> 00:28:52,025 Very well. 316 00:28:52,191 --> 00:28:57,470 Please take notes. All of you. Please take notes. 317 00:29:18,511 --> 00:29:22,823 Mom had to hand over all the money to the Nazis. So you're going to pay him with jewels. 318 00:29:22,991 --> 00:29:27,587 No, not Martha. Tell your mother it's too much kind. She can pay me after the war. 319 00:29:27,587 --> 00:29:29,150 No, that's what I said... 320 00:29:30,191 --> 00:29:34,582 - She insisted. - And Pap agreed. 321 00:29:34,751 --> 00:29:39,188 No, I can't accept that. Not now. We help each other however we can. Yes? 322 00:29:39,351 --> 00:29:45,824 Now they go straight home and tell your parents what I said. Yes? 323 00:29:47,751 --> 00:29:53,224 - Katya, Marta, go. - "Attention, people of Sighet. 324 00:29:53,391 --> 00:30:00,430 "From now on there is a touch curfew from 23:00 to 06:00..." 325 00:30:00,591 --> 00:30:03,013 But the Hungarians are their allies, Pap�. You don't listen to me. 326 00:30:03,013 --> 00:30:05,426 Listen to Frederick. Tell him what you heard from them. 327 00:30:05,591 --> 00:30:09,170 - Moshe, the Germans... - We're not leaving Sighet. 328 00:30:09,231 --> 00:30:11,773 How do you believe? How do you know if Cilla is safe? 329 00:30:11,773 --> 00:30:14,546 Helen in her letter, says she arrived in Budapest. 330 00:30:14,711 --> 00:30:18,287 - Are they together? - I don't know, Mom. Yes. I suppose they are. 331 00:30:18,288 --> 00:30:22,321 They have to go back. Giska, you have to make them come back. 332 00:30:22,591 --> 00:30:25,980 No. They shouldn't come back here, Mommy. Pray they are safe where they are. 333 00:30:25,991 --> 00:29:32,429 - Daddy, we have to calm down. But don't be stubborn... - So what about Bela? Chandor, Julius... 334 00:30:32,591 --> 00:30:34,671 Moms are grown men. You can take good care of them, 335 00:30:34,671 --> 00:30:37,283 and their families and are to do the right thing they can. 336 00:30:37,286 --> 00:30:40,429 - But you and daddy... - I'm not going anywhere without Daddy. 337 00:30:40,429 --> 00:30:43,591 Listen to what I say. Listen! 338 00:30:43,591 --> 00:30:48,711 We still have time. We have contacts and a lot of money. You and Dad will join Rose in Palestine. 339 00:30:48,871 --> 00:30:52,944 We're not all like you. We can't start all over again. 340 00:30:53,111 --> 00:30:57,301 This is our life. Our world. Sighet is our Giska home. 341 00:30:57,301 --> 00:30:59,301 It will always be our land! 342 00:30:59,301 --> 00:31:00,451 - Daddy, please. - Pap... 343 00:31:00,471 --> 00:31:02,622 the Germans will destroy us. 344 00:31:02,622 --> 00:31:05,522 The Hungarians will not allow it. No civilized people will allow it. 345 00:31:05,591 --> 00:31:10,230 The Hungarians help are with them, Dad. I see them walking together, side by side. 346 00:31:10,391 --> 00:31:14,197 - Then Sighet will not allow it. - Moses! Moses! Sighet is just a city. 347 00:31:14,197 --> 00:31:16,098 It's just another city. 348 00:31:16,231 --> 00:31:20,100 - Giska is right. You need... - Listen. 349 00:31:20,271 --> 00:31:24,503 We are a family. We stay together. 350 00:31:26,671 --> 00:31:27,502 Together! 351 00:31:43,631 --> 00:31:49,525 Helen, I have good news for you. Good news in these terrible times! 352 00:31:49,551 --> 00:31:53,506 - Good news for me? - Well, maybe. 353 00:31:53,871 --> 00:31:58,945 - What about... finally? - Yes, if you give him my name. 354 00:32:00,671 --> 00:32:04,141 My husband will be so happy. 355 00:32:07,111 --> 00:32:11,024 Thank you, Dr. Perl. If it weren't for you, this wouldn't be possible. 356 00:32:11,191 --> 00:32:15,766 No, no, it was God who wanted it to be that way. I've done so little, I'm just a doctor. 357 00:32:19,231 --> 00:32:20,219 Open! 358 00:32:20,229 --> 00:32:22,549 Open the door! 359 00:32:23,231 --> 00:32:25,189 What's going on? 360 00:32:26,851 --> 00:32:30,080 - Search the whole house! - How dare you invade our house? 361 00:32:30,151 --> 00:32:32,186 You! Traitor. 362 00:32:32,687 --> 00:32:35,563 - Let's go. This way. - Should you be ashamed? 363 00:32:35,571 --> 00:32:38,255 - What are you doing? - Shut up! 364 00:32:38,255 --> 00:32:40,255 They can't behave like this! 365 00:32:40,255 --> 00:32:42,660 It's not right, breaking into this house! 366 00:32:43,671 --> 00:32:46,060 - Let go of me. - You have to come with us. 367 00:32:46,231 --> 00:32:51,304 - Why? He is a doctor. - Let go of my daughter. 368 00:32:52,454 --> 00:32:53,524 Moses! 369 00:32:57,674 --> 00:33:00,489 Nut! Let's go! 370 00:33:02,849 --> 00:33:04,489 Let go of me! Gisella! 371 00:33:11,271 --> 00:33:16,220 SIGHET'S GHETTO ONE MONTH LATER 372 00:33:16,232 --> 00:33:20,130 JEWS ENTRY PROHIBITED 373 00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:48,200 Pap�! 374 00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:55,347 - Imre! Quickly. - Daddy! 375 00:33:56,461 --> 00:33:58,947 Charlotte, bring water. 376 00:34:05,761 --> 00:34:12,323 Look what they did to him! Oh my God. 377 00:34:12,331 --> 00:34:17,987 - The fourth one is better. - Charlotte, give me the water. 378 00:34:19,871 --> 00:34:22,665 Take it. Take this. 379 00:34:22,711 --> 00:34:25,581 - Take these pills. - Medicines? 380 00:34:25,581 --> 00:34:30,581 Yes, Elizabeth, smuggled them here, for me. Take it, Frederick. 381 00:34:30,631 --> 00:34:34,182 - Dr. Junger, how is he? - The fever is very high. 382 00:34:36,551 --> 00:34:39,827 David, you have to take this. 383 00:34:40,791 --> 00:34:46,270 - Here. Come on, you're burning with fever. - I can't swallow. 384 00:34:46,431 --> 00:34:48,691 Try it. Try for me. 385 00:34:53,791 --> 00:34:55,861 Very good. Very good. 386 00:34:57,431 --> 00:35:01,548 Dr. Junger, when did you release him? 387 00:35:01,711 --> 00:35:08,025 Yesterday. They suddenly decided that I had nothing to say to them. 388 00:35:08,191 --> 00:35:15,027 Why take them then? Why do they beat them? Why do they do these horrible things? 389 00:35:15,191 --> 00:35:19,662 For no other reason, but fill us with fear. 390 00:35:19,831 --> 00:35:22,743 Magda, please. It's okay, it's okay. 391 00:35:22,911 --> 00:35:27,826 Tomorrow, Giska. Tomorrow they will take us away from here. 392 00:35:27,991 --> 00:35:30,300 - Tomorrow? - Where to? 393 00:35:30,471 --> 00:35:32,985 - Poland. - Poland? 394 00:35:36,031 --> 00:35:39,421 Go to bed, Charlotte. Go to bed. 395 00:35:40,591 --> 00:35:44,903 Well, maybe at least Let's all stay together, right? 396 00:35:45,071 --> 00:35:50,144 So what about Cilla? Lovely? All of them? 397 00:35:50,311 --> 00:35:52,562 Mommy, I don't know. But they are very strong. 398 00:35:52,631 --> 00:35:57,907 They're taking good care of themselves, and... 399 00:35:58,071 --> 00:36:01,782 and you know, maybe they don't want let us worry about them. 400 00:36:10,911 --> 00:36:11,549 Take it. 401 00:36:14,511 --> 00:36:17,150 We have to have enough for all of us. 402 00:36:18,311 --> 00:36:22,781 Put it in your shoe. If necessary... 403 00:36:24,351 --> 00:36:29,822 Frederick, are you serious? Suicide? 404 00:36:30,311 --> 00:36:36,341 I'd rather die at my own hands, than giving this pleasure to any bastard. 405 00:36:37,191 --> 00:36:39,864 - Me too. - Shhh, shut up, please. 406 00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:43,890 I don't want Mom and the kids others listen to what you say. 407 00:36:43,911 --> 00:36:50,541 Giska, put that in your shoe. Please. 408 00:37:11,551 --> 00:37:13,509 Don't delay. Everyone in line. 409 00:37:14,615 --> 00:37:15,626 Sorry. 410 00:37:22,831 --> 00:37:24,141 Gisella! 411 00:37:25,233 --> 00:37:26,242 Sorry. 412 00:37:26,312 --> 00:37:27,554 Gisella! 413 00:37:31,025 --> 00:37:32,382 Gisella! 414 00:37:33,671 --> 00:37:35,423 Frederick, here. 415 00:37:37,435 --> 00:37:38,442 Sorry. 416 00:37:41,391 --> 00:37:45,720 - Where is Dr. Junger? Where are they? - Dead. 417 00:37:45,731 --> 00:37:50,263 They took the poison. But Charlotte survived. 418 00:37:50,431 --> 00:37:54,389 Charlotte, he gave you very little. She must be somewhere in these rows. 419 00:37:54,389 --> 00:37:57,779 I couldn't find her. 420 00:37:58,158 --> 00:38:01:329 - Giska! - Daddy, it's okay. 421 00:38:03,431 --> 00:38:05,183 Here. Stay here. 422 00:38:25,551 --> 00:38:28,990 Charlotte. Charlotte Junger? 423 00:39:05,132 --> 00:39:07,330 Gisella! Giska! 424 00:39:11,971 --> 00:39:15,226 Dr. Perl. Where is Dr. Perl? 425 00:39:17,391 --> 00:39:19,073 - Dr. Perl! - Only Jews. 426 00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21:070 Elizabeth! 427 00:39:21,073 --> 00:39:23,285 Dr. Perl! Let me go with them. 428 00:39:23,311 --> 00:39:26,905 Let me go with them. No! 429 00:39:30,471 --> 00:39:33,228 Dr. Perl. Please stop the train. 430 00:39:35,228 --> 00:39:36,848 Please! 431 00:40:38,551 --> 00:40:41,928 AUSCHWITZ 432 00:40:42,030 --> 00:40:43,880 Auschwitz. 433 00:40:49,711 --> 00:40:53,231 Giska. Dear Giska. 434 00:40:54,231 --> 00:41:00,022 Swear to me. We'll see each other each other in the Promised Land. 435 00:41:03,591 --> 00:41:07,623 I promise I will, Pap�. I promise. 436 00:41:22,111 --> 00:41:26,866 - water. - David. David. 437 00:41:27,031 --> 00:41:28,589 water. 438 00:41:30,751 --> 00:41:35,029 Women to the right, men to the left. 439 00:41:35,191 --> 00:41:38,547 water. water. 440 00:41:45,391 --> 00:41:46,949 Quickly. 441 00:41:47,098 --> 00:41:48,998 Quick! Quick! 442 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:52,390 ...men to the left! 443 00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:54,600 Quick! 444 00:42:04,951 --> 00:42:08,341 Women to the right, To the right! 445 00:42:08,511 --> 00:42:15,400 One moment, please. My brother... sir, my brother is very sick. He has pneumonia. 446 00:42:15,671 --> 00:42:20,387 I see. Needs care doctors. Let's take good care of him. 447 00:42:20,551 --> 00:42:23,221 - Take him to the ambulance. - Giska, please come with me. 449 00:42:23,222 --> 00:42:24,221 Yes. Yes. Great. 449 00:42:24,221 --> 00:42:27,582 - Can my son go with him? - Yes, if you want. 450 00:42:27,751 --> 00:42:31,460 - David. David... - Take them both to the ambulance. 451 00:42:31,631 --> 00:42:35,484 - I'll be back quickly. - Imre, Wait there for me, please. 452 00:42:35,551 --> 00:42:41,909 - Where is the hospital? - Very close. Follow. Follow. 453 00:42:42,471 --> 00:42:46,941 In line. Keep walking. 454 00:42:47,191 --> 00:42:47,957 Quickly. 455 00:42:48:257 --> 00:42:49,690 Follow. 456 00:42:50,311 --> 00:42:51,949 Come in. 457 00:43:43,311 --> 00:43:47,560 Frederick! Pap�! 458 00:43:47,677 --> 00:43:53,879 Giska! Don't worry. We'll be fine. 459 00:43:54,031 --> 00:43:57,580 Tell your mother to stay with you. 460 00:43:57,751 --> 00:44:01,300 Giska. I found Rachel. 461 00:44:01,471 --> 00:44:04,313 - Rachel, were you on our train? - Yes. 462 00:44:04,313 --> 00:44:08,626 - Have you seen Charlotte Junger? - No. 463 00:44:13,231 --> 00:44:17,303 - How is Isabel? - Weak and thirsty. 464 00:44:17,471 --> 00:44:19,985 Oh, my dear Isabel. 465 00:44:20,153 --> 00:44:22,339 Oh! Giska! 466 00:44:23,151 --> 00:44:28,747 Dr. Perl. Dr. Perl, I'm going to take care of your mother. 467 00:44:28,930 --> 00:44:30,344 Mommy! 468 00:44:30,551 --> 00:44:34,669 Don't worry. I'll take care of your mother. 469 00:44:46,122 --> 00:48;46,240 Hurry! Come on, quickly! 470 00:46:24,871 --> 00:46:26,907 Shut up, Jewish pig! 471 00:46:29,151 --> 00:46:31,903 - What are you doing? - I'm a doctor. 472 00:46:31,071 --> 00:46:32,107 Get back in line. 473 00:47:18,711 --> 00:47:24,785 And you dare to ask me which side I was on. Look. 474 00:47:27,511 --> 00:47:31,026 There you have it. Can you see? Write this down. 475 00:47:31,191 --> 00:47:36,470 I'm Dr. Perl, number 25404. 476 00:47:36,631 --> 00:47:40,863 Prisoner. Non-cooperative. 477 00:48:13,631 --> 00:48:16,622 - Dr. Perl, good morning. - Good morning. 478 00:48:16,791 --> 00:48:21,740 I hope you understand that yesterday, we didn't have intention to disturb in any way... 479 00:48:21,911 --> 00:48:24,255 No, no. I understand. Good morning, gentlemen. 480 00:48:24,255 --> 00:48:28,255 Allow me to introduce you my friend Didi Goldstein. 481 00:48:28,671 --> 00:48:31,231 - Good morning. - Miss Goldstein, good morning. 482 00:48:32,831 --> 00:48:36,665 - We continue where we left off. - Yes. 483 00:48:36,831 --> 00:48:42,189 The train arrived, his family went separated, you were taken for disinfection, 484 00:48:42,351 --> 00:48:47,789 His hair was shaved. A woman was attacked In your head, you tried to help, but you couldn't. 485 00:48:47,951 --> 00:48:53,300 - Then they tattooed his arm. Am I correct? - Yes. 486 00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:55,342 Dr. Perl, I don't have the intention of offending her with this. 487 00:48:55,342 --> 00:48:59,442 But we have to establish her relationship as a doctor in the countryside. 488 00:48:59,451 --> 00:49:00,351 In Auschwitz, yes. 489 00:49:00,351 --> 00:49:05,424 Yes, now, before being tattooed, you said to that woman... 490 00:49:05,591 --> 00:49:09,665 You must remember that this woman was a Nazi guard. 491 00:49:09,865 --> 00:49:11,478 You told that Nazi guard... 492 00:49:11,831 --> 00:49:16,382 who was a doctor. It was at that time Who started working as a doctor? 493 00:49:16,551 --> 00:49:20,703 No. I never returned to her to see. They were many. 494 00:49:25,671 --> 00:49:29,346 No, that's not how I started. 495 00:49:31,511 --> 00:49:36,221 - That wasn't then. - Then how? How did it happen? 496 00:49:38,711 --> 00:49:41,910 Was it voluntarily? Did anyone nominate her? 497 00:49:41,911 --> 00:49:49,066 You say you didn't cooperate. Were you forced to work against your will? 498 00:49:49,511 --> 00:49:51,547 No, I... 499 00:49:55,991 --> 00:50:01,666 I volunteered. But... please. 500 00:50:01,831 --> 00:50:06,382 At that time I didn't idea of the things I would have to do. 501 00:50:08,831 --> 00:50:11,389 Come on. Come on. 502 00:50:23,951 --> 00:50:28,944 - Sorry. Do you know where the hospital is? - Shhh! 503 00:50:29,111 --> 00:50:32,706 - Do you know where they took the men? - I don't know. 504 00:50:32,871 --> 00:50:36,749 My God, where are they? 505 00:50:39,911 --> 00:48:42,186 Why are you pinching yourself? 506 00:50:42,351 --> 00:50:46,822 To have color in my cheeks. To avoid being chosen. 507 00:50:46,991 --> 00:50:51,223 - Why did it take so long? - Sorry? 508 00:50:51,391 --> 00:50:56,509 Eating caviar, while we rot here. 509 00:51:01,751 --> 00:51:04,390 You get used to it. 510 00:51:04,551 --> 00:51:09,981 They have to burn us all, before the Russians arrive. 511 00:51:23,171 --> 00:51:24,463 Charlotte. 512 00:51:28,771 --> 00:51:32,539 -Charlotte Junger. - Shut up. 513 00:51:37,711 --> 00:51:42,262 I give you two days. Then, it's over! 514 00:51:46,145 --> 00:51:47,283 Charlotte! 515 00:51:49,311 --> 00:51:50,790 Attention. 516 00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:52,482 Attention! 517 00:51:54:500 --> 00:51:56,500 Attention! 518 00:52:10,791 --> 00:52:14,545 - What do we have here? - A ballerina. 519 00:52:14,711 --> 00:52:16,542 A ballerina? 520 00:52:20,551 --> 00:52:23,463 - Do you want to dance for me? - Daddy? 521 00:52:34,071 --> 00:52:37,029 Bravo. Bravo. Bravo. 522 00:52:39,071 --> 00:52:41,221 I must... 523 00:52:44,831 --> 00:52:51,508 No. No, no, no. She is so beautiful. And such a good dancer. 524 00:52:51,671 --> 00:52:54,344 Thank you, Daddy. 525 00:52:54,511 --> 00:52:57,371 Delighted. He comes. 526 00:53:02,151 --> 00:53:04,984 Are there any doctors here? 527 00:53:06,093 --> 00:53:08,652 Attention! 528 00:53:10,631 --> 00:53:15,422 - Are there doctors here? - There are no doctors, huh? 529 00:53:15,765 --> 00:53:18,682 Not even one? 530 00:53:18,691 --> 00:53:24,341 Attention! Are there doctors here? 531 00:53:28,071 --> 00:53:30,460 No doctors? 532 00:53:34,221 --> 00:53:37,300 Oh! Finally! 533 00:53:40,191 --> 00:53:44,629 - What kind of doctor are you? - Gynecologist. 534 00:53:44,633 --> 00:53:45,769 Gynecologist? 535 00:53:45,791 --> 00:53:53,888 Gynecologist? Excellent. Does medicine private, or is it linked to a clinic? 536 00:53:53,951 --> 00:53:58,308 I have a practice. I studied in Cluj and Berlin. 537 00:53:58,471 --> 00:54:01,250 Berlin? Yes. I should meet her. 538 00:54:01,271 --> 00:54:04,661 I also studied in Berlin. 539 00:54:04,831 --> 00:54:11,746 You know, you have an authoritarian air, which I find impressive. 540 00:54:11,911 --> 00:54:16,225 It is an attitude that I would admire, and respect in Anyone, but a doctor, is wonderful. 541 00:54:16,325 --> 00:54:18,000 Thank you, sir. 542 00:54:18,391 --> 00:54:23,260 Sorry sir, I know, But if I may... 543 00:54:23,431 --> 00:54:26,275 If... if you could help me finding my son. 544 00:54:26,275 --> 00:54:29,271 He was taken to the infirmary last night, . 545 00:54:29,271 --> 00:52:30,511 - I understand. - and... and... 546 00:54:31,511 --> 00:52:34,660 He's waiting for me. And I'm worried about him. 547 00:54:34,831 --> 00:54:38,414 And I know he must be very worried about me... 548 00:54:38,414 --> 00:54:42,628 Of course, any good son I would be worried about your mother, yes. 549 00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:46,139 - Yes, and I would like to go and visit him. - Certainly. We can do that for you. 550 00:54:46,139 --> 00:54:47,888 - Yes? - Yes. 551 00:54:49,011 --> 00:54:52,115 Perhaps in the meantime I could pass him a message. 552 00:54:52,115 --> 00:54:54,125 - It's a pleasure. The boy's name? - Imre 553 00:54:54,125 --> 00:54:54,881 Imre Krauss. 554 00:54:54,881 --> 00:54:57,361 Irme will be informed that Your mother is fine. Right? 555 00:54:57,711 --> 00:55:02,478 - Thank you, sir. Just one more thing, please. - Please, definitely. 556 00:55:02,478 --> 00:55:04,976 Excuse me, but if I may... 557 00:55:04,976 --> 00:55:12,388 - Please continue... - My brother is very sick, and my mother... 558 00:55:12,551 --> 00:55:17,762 Please, please. You, your husband, and his mother, his whole family... 559 00:55:17,763 --> 00:55:19,868 will be together again, very soon. 560 00:55:20,358 --> 00:55:22,522 - Yes? - Yes. 561 00:55:23,038 --> 00:55:26,622 Thank you. Thank you, sir. 562 00:55:26,711 --> 00:55:29,989 I'd like to ask you a small favor. Yes? 563 00:55:30,151 --> 00:55:36,306 You are Hungarian and I am German. I think the Women should listen to you better than to me. 564 00:55:36,471 --> 00:55:40,623 Now. We just built a home for pregnant women 565 00:55:40,632 --> 00:53:47,230 As you will see, they will have all the conditions, beds clean, good food and medical care, of course... 566 00:55:47,231 --> 00:55:50,335 Now, it would cost me they had to walk. 567 00:55:50,335 --> 00:55:52,670 We have some vehicles from Red Cross. to take them there. 568 00:55:52,831 --> 00:55:58,412 But, the question is, the more so we can put them in the trucks... 569 00:55:58,412 --> 00:56:01,823 the more they can receive the care they deserve. 570 00:56:01,851 --> 00:56:03,184 And you know, I almost feel Embarrassed to have to say this. 571 00:56:03,184 --> 00:56:05,344 They are so desperately needed. 572 00:56:05,351 --> 00:56:08,051 Yes? So, could you do this for me? 573 00:56:08,071 --> 00:56:13,509 It can bring women together pregnant women, and carry them to term? 574 00:56:13,671 --> 00:56:17,310 - Yes? - Of course I can. Of course I can help you. 575 00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:18,500 Thank you very much. 576 00:56:18,501 --> 00:56:22,350 - No, no, thank you very much. - It's very kind. 577 00:56:29,771 --> 00:56:31,190 Sorry! 578 00:56:31,191 --> 00:56:38,311 Dr. Mengele, told me that there is a home for future mothers. 579 00:56:38,471 --> 00:56:44,990 There are good beds, baths, medical care, good food... 580 00:56:45,151 --> 00:54:49,962 These Red Cross cars, take them to that house. 581 00:56:49,962 --> 00:56:56,567 For those of you who are pregnant, This seems like a good option to me, yes. 582 00:57:08,511 --> 00:57:15,550 Do you really think you can be great, big, strong and powerful, "Herr" Doctor? 583 00:57:15,711 --> 00:57:17,063 What are you talking about? 584 00:57:24,391 --> 00:57:27,747 - He will send all women to their deaths. - He said... 585 00:57:27,911 --> 00:57:33,402 Don't you know who he is, Dr. Mengele? He is the doctor of death. 586 00:57:33,471 --> 00:57:35,825 No, those trucks are from the Red Cross. 587 00:57:35,825 --> 00:57:39,025 So where are the workers from the Red Cross, Doctor? 588 00:57:40,151 --> 00:57:40,864 But... 589 00:57:41,071 --> 00:57:46,658 I want my son and my son helped my brother... 590 00:57:46,658 --> 00:57:49,611 they sent us in a car from the Red Cross last night, 591 00:57:49,611 --> 00:57:50,679 - both of them. - Shhh! 592 00:57:53,071 --> 00:57:59,308 His brother and son were taken where those women are going. 593 00:57:59,308 --> 00:58:00,434 Where did you send them? 594 00:58:00,434 --> 00:58:03,034 No, no, Dr. Mengele promised take a message to lmre. 595 00:58:03,034 --> 00:58:06,328 Oh! Dr. Mengele promised take a message to Imre. 596 00:58:06,331 --> 00:58:08,142 - Yes! Yes! - To the infirmary. 597 00:58:08,911 --> 00:58:14,110 The infirmary is a gas chamber. A crematorium. 598 00:58:14,271 --> 00:58:17,227 - No! No! - Your son is dead. 599 00:58:19,231 --> 00:58:21,303 Look. See beyond. 600 00:58:21,311 --> 00:58:25,223 They are Red Cross cars by Dr. Mengele. Do you see them? 601 00:58:30,511 --> 00:58:35,824 You're the great doctor, huh? What's that sweet smell in the air? 602 00:58:35,991 --> 00:58:40,281 You've certainly smelled it before, If you really are a doctor? 603 00:58:50,031 --> 00:58:55,388 Listen. Did you hear that? Do you know what it's like to be burned? 604 00:58:55,551 --> 00:58:59,021 Human flesh. understand? 605 00:58:59,191 --> 00:59:00,749 Human flesh. 606 00:59:30,111 --> 00:59:33,139 You take the poison, that Was it an attempt to kill himself? 607 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,437 Dr. Perl? 608 00:59:37,438 --> 00:59:42,310 Yes, the knowledge of what was happening. That's what... 609 00:59:42,471 --> 00:59:49,307 what happened. the crematorium, Imre. Imre, my son... 610 00:59:49,471 --> 00:59:55,510 It was... It was too much. You know... This was too much. 611 00:59:55,671 --> 00:59:57,502 I'm sorry for your loss. 612 00:59:57,671 --> 01:00:04,160 Now, this first day, this was the First time you heard about gas chambers? 613 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,190 Yes. 614 01:00:05,351 --> 01:00:10,269 And you freely admitted to sending all those women to die in the gas chambers? 615 01:00:13,751 --> 01:00:19,222 I was deceived. I was threatened. Didn't you hear what I said? 616 01:00:19,271 --> 01:00:25,506 Just like those women were. But except that I survived, and... and... 617 01:00:25,671 --> 01:00:29,231 Do you understand what Dr. Mengele said about... 618 01:00:29,231 --> 01:00:30,762 of those women being sent for treatment? 619 01:00:30,762 --> 01:00:34,870 I was a doctor and as a doctor I wanted this to be done. 620 01:00:34,871 --> 01:00:40,010 I believed I wanted there would be an infirmary for everyone. 621 01:00:40,071 --> 01:00:42,902 But I was young. 622 01:00:43,071 --> 01:00:48,543 At that time, I didn't understand what it meant "medical care" for pregnant women. 623 01:00:48,711 --> 01:00:54,547 So these "cares" were then will they go to the gas chambers? 624 01:00:54,711 --> 01:00:59,227 Normally, yes. Sometimes, they experimented with them. 625 01:00:59,391 --> 01:01:04,511 Have you participated in some of these experiences, Dr. Perl? 626 01:01:07,991 --> 01:01:10,186 Not even under pressure? 627 01:01:10,351 --> 01:01:16,850 I would have asked them to shoot me any experience in pregnancy, or not. 628 01:01:16,850 --> 01:01:21,263 So you haven't watched Dr. Mengele. 629 01:01:27,791 --> 01:01:35,319 Shall we now discuss semantics? If I helped Dr Mengele? Yes. By your definition, yes, 630 01:01:35,391 --> 01:01:36,877 that first day, without knowing. 631 01:01:36,877 --> 01:01:38,953 But as soon as he knew the fate of those women, 632 01:01:38,953 --> 01:01:45,506 the women I thought I was helping, but instead... I fell on myself, as soon as I knew... 633 01:01:45,671 --> 01:01:49,268 I swore there would never be a pregnant woman again in Auschwitz as long as I could avoid it. 634 01:01:49,431 --> 01:01:51,862 Strong words, Dr. Perl. 635 01:01:54,471 --> 01:01:59,225 Yes, words. What are the words, Mr. Prentiss? 636 01:01:59,391 --> 01:02:02,464 There is none that describes what I saw. 637 01:02:06,991 --> 01:02:12,509 Shall we stop for lunch? We will be here It's two o'clock. If this suits everyone? 638 01:02:12,671 --> 01:02:15,220 Of course. Of course. 639 01:02:19,511 --> 01:02:21,366 Oh my God! 640 01:02:31,866 --> 01:02:34,866 Does it always end so awkwardly? 641 01:02:36,431 --> 01:02:38,786 I'm not going back there. 642 01:02:41,791 --> 01:02:43,861 Why? 643 01:02:47,031 --> 01:02:48,864 Did she mention Rachel? 644 01:02:53,231 --> 01:02:58,441 She talked about Rachel, didn't she? And Isabel. Tell me. 645 01:02:59,991 --> 01:03:03,427 She only talked about herself. 646 01:03:03,591 --> 01:03:08,553 Dr. Perl, let's get back to the subject of abortion... 647 01:03:08,553 --> 01:03:10,231 to be mentioned before the break. 648 01:03:10,231 --> 01:03:16,341 Do you say in your visa application, that you Did you personally perform more than a thousand abortions? 649 01:03:16,351 --> 01:03:19,426 That's right, yes, but, yes, something close to that. 650 01:03:19,432 --> 01:03:22,432 I don't know what the intention was, Dr. Perl, but that is a terrifying number. 651 01:03:22,591 --> 01:03:25,515 The intention for which it served, Mr. Prentiss, 652 01:03:25,515 --> 01:03:29,530 It was a very important purpose. Save mothers' lives. 653 01:03:29,531 --> 01:03:35,709 Save mothers' lives? Women you us He said they were all destined to die. 654 01:03:35,871 --> 01:03:39,628 The Nazis' intention, Mr. Prentiss, was to kill us all. 655 01:03:39,628 --> 01:03:41,614 Down to the last Jew. 656 01:03:41,791 --> 01:03:47,411 Of hunger, to shoot us, to humiliate us burn us, gas us, everyone should die. 657 01:03:47,411 --> 01:03:48,822 Anything from that would result in death. 658 01:03:48,991 --> 01:03:54,190 - Well, we understand Dr. Perl... - But my intention, as a doctor... 659 01:03:54,351 --> 01:04:01,981 like any other human being like us, it was to survive. I endured. 660 01:04:02,151 --> 01:04:05,499 And I forced... I forced others to endure... 661 01:04:05,671 --> 01:04:12,065 because, I never lost hope that the Russians, or maybe even you... 662 01:04:12,231 --> 01:04:17,510 even you, could find us and finally to the slaughter. 663 01:04:17,671 --> 01:04:21,220 Therefore, while you fought your war... 664 01:04:21,391 --> 01:04:22,907 I fought mine. 665 01:04:22,907 --> 01:04:26,907 Maybe it will remind me. Maybe you can explain this... 666 01:04:27,071 --> 01:04:29,984 - uh... - Gentlemen, please. 667 01:04:29,984 --> 01:04:31,746 It's all so simple. 668 01:04:32,151 --> 01:04:35,029 Women who were pregnant women were killed. 669 01:04:35,191 --> 01:04:39,707 I aborted fetuses so that mothers could survive. Do you understand? 670 01:04:39,871 --> 01:04:42,260 If I could save mom's life... 671 01:04:42,431 --> 01:04:44,531 and if she could survive, If you wish... 672 01:04:44,531 --> 01:04:46,663 God, she may one day give birth to another child. 673 01:04:46,831 --> 01:04:52,701 No one can exterminate the Jewish People, as long as Jewish women have babies. 674 01:04:52,871 --> 01:04:57,149 Were there babies born in Auschwitz? 675 01:04:58,151 --> 01:05:01,287 Yes, some, but... 676 01:05:01,351 --> 01:05:08,342 newborns were immediately exterminated with their mothers. 677 01:05:08,431 --> 01:05:14,659 But these women were separated from men. How did they get pregnant? 678 01:05:14,831 --> 01:05:18,470 Most pregnant women in Auschwitz they already arrived like this. 679 01:05:18,631 --> 01:05:22,624 As for the others... some they were raped by the SS... 680 01:05:22,791 --> 01:05:26,309 some sold their bodies for food, in the latrines. 681 01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:28,440 Was it? In the latrines? 682 01:05:28,471 --> 01:05:33,340 Yes. There were men, prisoners work who had access to this area. 683 01:05:33,511 --> 01:05:38,825 But still. thousand women pregnant. Don't think that number... 684 01:05:38,825 --> 01:05:45,303 Mr. Prentiss, Auschwitz was not a few tents in the woods, it was like a small town. 685 01:05:45,471 --> 01:05:49,465 There were 30,000 of us only in the Hungarian women's sector. 686 01:05:49,471 --> 01:05:53,225 A thousand, out of 30 thousand, is actually very little. 687 01:05:53,391 --> 01:06:01,661 You said before, that Dr. Mengel did experiences in pregnant women? 688 01:06:04,191 --> 01:06:07,749 Yes. In both, the fetus and the mother. 689 01:06:09,831 --> 01:06:11,721 No anesthesia. 690 01:06:13,551 --> 01:06:18,386 For no other purpose than his own perverse pleasure. He... 691 01:06:18,551 --> 01:06:27,070 None of this seems real, if he didn't use anesthesia, but required sterilized instruments. 692 01:06:27,031 --> 01:06:31,624 He can't understand. 693 01:06:31,791 --> 01:06:35,500 If you were not present in these experiences,,, 694 01:06:35,671 --> 01:06:38,344 How do you know they happened? 695 01:06:38,511 --> 01:06:43,570 Because these women were me brought later for treatments. 696 01:06:43,631 --> 01:06:48,989 So they could get back to work. Most of them did not survive. 697 01:06:49,151 --> 01:06:52,985 This only encouraged me to have an abortion more pregnant women. 698 01:06:53,151 --> 01:06:58,120 Dr. Perl, I think we are having some difficulty... 699 01:06:58,191 --> 01:07:03,584 - to understand the situation you describe. - It's fine, it's fine. 700 01:07:03,751 --> 01:07:07,710 The women of Sighet were the first. 701 01:07:07,871 --> 01:07:12,625 The ones they chose on selection day. They heard about me and they chose me. 702 01:07:34,391 --> 01:07:38,146 The girl who brought me here Said you know me. 703 01:07:38,311 --> 01:07:44,591 - Dr. Perl! - My God, Leiku. Leiku. Leiku! 704 01:07:45,591 --> 01:07:51,670 - Can you help me? - Yes, of course, I can. 705 01:07:51,831 --> 01:07:57,726 I didn't want to do this, but if Mengele Find out, I'm sent to the gas. 706 01:07:57,731 --> 01:08:00,220 I know that. Calm. Listening. 707 01:08:00,391 --> 01:08:02,855 When we get out of this hell, you and your husband... 708 01:08:02,855 --> 01:08:05,910 they can have another child. A free child. 709 01:08:06,071 --> 01:08:11,509 - It took so long... - Shut up! You can't wake the guard. 710 01:08:11,671 --> 01:08:16,028 Are you okay? Now lie on your back. Please. 711 01:08:16,191 --> 01:08:21,547 Listen. Breathe very slowly through the nose. Do you understand? 712 01:08:21,711 --> 01:08:27,081 - Can I see my baby? - Yes, you can, for sure. But lie down. 713 01:08:27,081 --> 01:08:30,060 - Oh! No! - Don't talk, please. 714 01:08:33,591 --> 01:08:36,901 Silence. Quiet. Calm down 715 01:08:37,991 --> 01:08:43,382 Leiku, then you can have another son, I promise you. 716 01:09:52,611 --> 01:09:55,507 So you aborted Leiku's fetus? 717 01:09:55,671 --> 01:10:04,543 No. I mean, yes, yes. But Leiku's fetus did not survive 718 01:10:04,711 --> 01:10:07,987 But if you hadn't access to the infirmary in this place... 719 01:10:08,151 --> 01:10:13,827 Even in the infirmary, even in the Infirmary, if you can call it that... 720 01:10:13,991 --> 01:10:16,028 there were very few instruments, Mr. Prentiss. 721 01:10:16,191 --> 01:10:20,945 But you said that Dr. Mengele Did you use instruments? Sterile instruments... 722 01:10:21,111 --> 01:10:27,744 Yes. I used it. In the experiment block. Block 11. But he didn't work in the infirmary. 723 01:10:27,911 --> 01:10:31,151 Before you arrive at the infirmary and abort these babies... 724 01:10:31,151 --> 01:10:32,302 Fetuses. 725 01:10:34,671 --> 01:10:38,425 How was it possible for you to do this, without instruments? 726 01:10:38,591 --> 01:10:41,503 With my bare hands, Mr. Prentiss. 727 01:10:46,283 --> 01:10:47,388 Yes. 728 01:10:49,391 --> 01:10:56,291 Sorry, Dr. Perl, but you seem have no remorse for any of these acts. 729 01:10:56,511 --> 01:11:00,390 Forgive me Mr. Prentiss, but you don't seem to hear. 730 01:11:00,551 --> 01:11:04,687 Why should I feel remorse, for saving the lives of a thousand women? 731 01:11:04,791 --> 01:11:09,622 I risked my own life, every time I did this. 732 01:11:09,791 --> 01:11:16,139 If they ever knew, at any time it would also be sent to the gas. What regrets? 733 01:11:16,311 --> 01:11:21,510 These stories, Dr. Perl. Your logic... 734 01:11:21,831 --> 01:11:26,509 One moment, please. Please stop writing, please. Stop! 735 01:11:26,510 --> 01:11:28,705 Stop writing, please. 736 01:11:28,952 --> 01:11:29,674 Yes. 737 01:11:29,871 --> 01:11:34,100 My lords, Auschwitz was another country, 738 01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:37,921 a country with its own rules and its own logic. 739 01:11:37,921 --> 01:11:41,304 And these rules changed day by day. From situation to situation. 740 01:11:41,471 --> 01:11:44,554 We, who were there, that we lived that, 741 01:11:44,554 --> 01:11:47,470 We couldn't judge each other. Therefore it would be impossible... 742 01:11:47,471 --> 01:11:52,180 No. No. It's absurd, 743 01:11:52,351 --> 01:11:56,981 for you, a man, sitting here to judge me. 744 01:12:19,231 --> 01:12:21,130 - Yes. - Good evening, Dr. Perl. 745 01:12:21,261 --> 01:12:27,661 It is Dr. Mengele who speaks. I'm so pleased to find her. I need... 745 01:13:00,831 --> 01:13:05,350 When did you ask for a hospital to women in Auschwitz-Birkenau, Dr. Perl? 746 01:13:05,511 --> 01:13:13,188 - When did you ask for the women's hospital? - I don't remember exactly. 747 01:13:13,351 --> 01:13:20,550 I remember my hair was started to turn completely white, and... 748 01:13:20,561 --> 01:13:24,501 I don't know. Maybe, two months after arriving there. 749 01:13:25,371 --> 01:13:27,302 Because of Dr. Mengele? 750 01:13:31,351 --> 01:13:33,911 Yes, because of Dr. Mengele. 751 01:13:34,071 --> 01:13:38,781 Jewish doctors, go one step further. Let's open a ward for women. 752 01:13:44,831 --> 01:13:47,709 All Jewish doctors, one step forward. 753 01:13:51,911 --> 01:13:56,372 - Your name? - Dr. Ruth Stern from Budapest, oncologist. 754 01:13:56,372 --> 01:13:56,994 Great. 755 01:13:58,831 --> 01:14:00,742 Other doctors, one step forward. 756 01:14:08,591 --> 01:14:12,140 Closer. Closer. Turn to them. 757 01:14:18,411 --> 01:14:23,450 All Jewish doctors, one step forward. Your name? 758 01:14:27,271 --> 01:14:29,182 Your name? 759 01:14:41,971 --> 01:14:43,502 Nobody else? 760 01:14:50,031 --> 01:14:54,627 - Your name? - Dr. Gisella Perl. Sighet. 761 01:14:54,791 --> 01:14:58,908 Ah yes, the gynecologist. 762 01:15:06,711 --> 01:15:12:582 Very good. So we'll see a lot of each other. 763 01:15:28,551 --> 01:15:34,102 Exactly, what were you doing in the hospital, or what do you call it, in the infirmary? 764 01:15:34,271 --> 01:15:38,389 We treated the sick and wounded, as well as we could. 765 01:15:38,551 --> 01:15:44,501 We didn't have bandages, just this kind of paper, and almost no medicine. 766 01:15:46,751 --> 01:15:49,311 - Come on, get back to work. - Sorry... 767 01:15:49,471 --> 01:15:54,465 With your permission, but this patient, You only need to rest for one day. 768 01:15:54,471 --> 01:15:58,986 Her foot is infected and I don't think she... 769 01:16:12,631 --> 01:16:13,383 Pang! 770 01:16:15,071 --> 01:16:16,629 He comes. 771 01:16:22,591 --> 01:16:27,619 Put that woman back this afternoon, she is able to work. 772 01:16:33,551 --> 01:13:36,030 Calm down, everything's okay. 773 01:16:36,191 --> 01:16:42,585 Dr. Perl, our information indicates that one of his patients was an SS officer. 774 01:16:42,751 --> 01:16:44,901 Is this true? 775 01:16:45,071 --> 01:16:47,631 I don't want to believe it. 776 01:16:47,791 --> 01:16:54,387 He continues to insinuate that this Was it something I would choose? 777 01:16:54,551 --> 01:17:00,023 - Who would willingly help a Nazi? - Answer the question, please. 778 01:17:07,031 --> 01:17:11,946 Yes. Irma Griese called me to her quarters. 779 01:17:12,631 --> 01:17:14,223 Enter. 780 01:17:14,391 --> 01:17:18,383 Because I thought I was pregnant. 781 01:17:30,351 --> 01:17:37,699 You have to extract me. There are instruments sterilized in the cabinet. Go get them. 782 01:17:46,471 --> 01:17:51,146 And if you talk about this to anyone, You know, I'm done with you. 783 01:17:53,791 --> 01:17:55,907 I won't say a word... 784 01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:58,268 You're a good doctor. 785 01:17:58,431 --> 01:18:04,551 Too bad you have to die. Germany needs good doctors. 786 01:18:09,861 --> 01:18:12,342 Will it hurt? 787 01:18:16,791 --> 01:18:19,783 You will feel a sharp pain, pressure... 788 01:18:19,951 --> 01:18:24,024 Then he starts to have cramps and bleeding. 789 01:18:24,191 --> 01:18:30,709 Wait a minute. How long will it hurt? I can't stand any kind of pain. 790 01:18:32,091 --> 01:18:40,306 Yes. It's not very long. A few hours. Then you must rest. And stay in bed for a while. 791 01:18:40,351 --> 01:18:42,387 Now please... 792 01:19:10,151 --> 01:19:15,222 - Thank you Dr. Perl, I think that's all for today. - See you tomorrow, same time. 793 01:19:15,231 --> 01:19:19,043 One moment, please. Is there one more day after this? 794 01:19:19,043 --> 01:19:20,983 Just a few more questions. 795 01:19:20,983 --> 01:19:25,983 I can't believe those Yankees guys, they lost again. 796 01:19:25,983 --> 01:19:26,783 It cost me ten dollars. 791 01:19:26,811 --> 01:19:29,584 Well, that's what happens when you support a loser. 792 01:19:29,591 --> 01:19:31,474 From Auschwitz, in one minute baseball in the following, 793 01:19:31,474 --> 01:19:34,948 This transition is so easy for you, isn't it? 794 01:19:35,991 --> 01:19:40,369 Dr. Perl, I assure you, this is It's hard for all of us to hear. 795 01:19:40,431 --> 01:19:43,913 Yes, Mr. Schuman I have I'm sure you're right, gentlemen, 796 01:19:43,913 --> 01:19:48,826 sorry, I have to try to understand something. 797 01:19:49,151 --> 01:19:55,250 I found a magazine a few days ago. Mr. Prentiss, perhaps, must be aware of this. 797 01:19:55,271 --> 01:19:59,708 The magazine is called Commonweal,* and is a Catholic publication. (*Public Good) 798 01:19:59,871 --> 01:20:06,902 In this magazine there are articles about Campos, as you so kindly call them. 799 01:20:07,071 --> 01:20:12,886 That was three years ago. You knew. America knew. 800 01:20:13,371 --> 01:20:17,102 You... you all knew. And they sat here and did nothing? 801 01:20:17,102 --> 01:20:18,212 Nothing? 802 01:20:18,501 --> 01:20:19,612 Nothing? 803 01:20:19,621 --> 01:20:23,489 - Sorry. - Please, please, Mr. Prentiss. 804 01:20:23,489 --> 01:20:24,989 Please let me finish. 804 01:20:24,990 --> 01:20:25,869 See you tomorrow. 805 01:20:30,591 --> 01:20:36,338 When we were being massacred, In the summer of 1944, what were you doing? 806 01:20:36,338 --> 01:20:40,411 Mr. Smith? You walked by the beach with your wife? 807 01:20:40,411 --> 01:20:42,823 Had a picnic on the beach? 808 01:20:42,991 --> 01:20:44,188 I don't really understand. 808 01:20:45,351 --> 01:20:50,345 And you, Peter Schuman, my partner Jew, what did you do to occupy your time? 809 01:20:50,511 --> 01:20:54,744 I went to the Temple or hit balls baseball with your son? 810 01:20:54,911 --> 01:21:00,381 My son was killed on D-Day. 811 01:21:01,351 --> 01:21:04,070 The body was never recovered. 812 01:21:08,671 --> 01:21:12,300 Forgive me. God, forgive me. Forgive me. 813 01:21:12,471 --> 01:21:16,827 I'm so sorry. Sincerely I'm sorry. 814 01:21:16,991 --> 01:21:21,590 But having to explain what It happened, I... I became disoriented. 815 01:21:21,751 --> 01:21:28,303 I'm sorry for the loss of your son. I ask for your forgiveness. 816 01:21:33,711 --> 01:21:35,747 See you tomorrow. 817 01:21:46,551 --> 01:21:51,067 Dr. Perl? It's just me, Dr. Perl... 818 01:21:53,951 --> 01:21:57,864 Martha Weiss. From Sighet. 819 01:22:24,471 --> 01:22:30,183 I would never believe that one day I would be walking alongside you in America. 820 01:22:30,351 --> 01:22:35,141 Me, walking like that, with the great Dr. Perl. 821 01:22:35,311 --> 01:22:38,192 And no one... no one would believe it. 822 01:22:38,182 --> 01:22:41,385 Maybe you can convince these employees to believe. 822 01:22:41,551 --> 01:22:46,702 - They don't believe you're a great doctor? - Not yet, but who can blame them. 823 01:22:46,871 --> 01:22:48,223 They have never been to Sighet. 824 01:22:48,231 --> 01:22:52,740 You know, they have their Park Avenue with its Central Park... 825 01:22:52,811 --> 01:22:58,766 - but we have the great Corso, and the river... Tisza. - And the Tisza River. 826 01:22:59,231 --> 01:23:02,550 - There are more girls from Sighet here. - Yes? 827 01:23:02,550 --> 01:23:07,426 Yes, I don't know who they are, but The UJA woman told me they are here. 828 01:23:07,431 --> 01:23:12,972 It's good. And soon we will have soirees, and we will be living like there, 829 01:23:13,071 --> 01:23:17,828 - And can I go too? - You, dear, will be the guest of honor. 830 01:23:17,991 --> 01:23:21,505 His hair turned dark again. 831 01:23:21,671 --> 01:23:25,267 Shh, shh. I painted it. I am too young to have white hair. 832 01:23:26,031 --> 01:23:32,743 Dr. Perl. We received a letter from a woman who recently arrived in New York. 833 01:23:32,871 --> 01:23:36,705 A woman named... Zozia... 834 01:23:38,871 --> 01:23:43,546 Well, anyway, this Zozia writes, that... 835 01:23:43,711 --> 01:23:49,741 her sister was refused treatment, in the infirmary because she couldn't pay him. 836 01:23:49,911 --> 01:23:54,750 As a result he died. 837 01:23:54,991 --> 01:23:58,506 Yes, I remember the case. 838 01:23:58,671 --> 01:24:04,344 This woman known as to "zombie" to "Walking Dead". 839 01:24:04,411 --> 01:24:07,665 We had very few medicines, but nothing that could save her. 840 01:24:07,831 --> 01:24:09,947 It was very sad, actually. 841 01:24:10,011 --> 01:24:14,239 So you never asked payment for treatment? 842 01:24:14,311 --> 01:24:17,063 Absolutely not. 843 01:24:17,231 --> 01:24:21,189 - Am I authorized to speak? - Definitely. Please. 844 01:24:29,311 --> 01:24:34,580 Dr. Perl, Dr. Perl saved my life in the ward. 845 01:24:35,587 --> 01:24:40,670 And I'm not the only one. She saved so many... I saw it with my own eyes.. 846 01:24:40,671 --> 01:24:45,579 She didn't ask for anything. She just gave. 847 01:24:45,631 --> 01:24:48,701 - I can tell you... - I'd like to hear it. 848 01:24:49,951 --> 01:24:55,546 I couldn't walk. I was very sick. 849 01:24:55,711 --> 01:25:00,567 My sister, Katia, was very strong. She practically carried me there. 850 01:25:00,581 --> 01:25:04,460 - Is Dr. Perl de Sighet here? - Martha, Katya! 851 01:25:08,551 --> 01:25:11,111 Ruth, I need you to help me. 852 01:25:13,471 --> 01:25:17,180 She hid me during all the selections. 853 01:25:17,351 --> 01:25:22,220 If Dr. Mengele had found out, I would certainly have been shot. 854 01:25:22,391 --> 01:25:26,179 The other doctors also helped... 855 01:26:00,471 --> 01:26:02,705 For your beds. 856 01:26:12,551 --> 01:26:15,304 She kept me there for over a week... 857 01:26:15,471 --> 01:26:18,429 He helped me, feeding me with her roots... 858 01:26:18,591 --> 01:26:23,142 exchanging them for margarine, until I get stronger. 859 01:26:26,871 --> 01:26:35,349 - I... I, I owe the doctor... - It's fine. It's fine. 860 01:26:35,431 --> 01:26:41,261 0 Dr. Mengele was terrified with diseases, typhus in particular. 891 01:26:41,261 --> 01:26:43,998 It was common in Auschwitz, that at any time... 892 01:26:43,998 --> 01:26:47,464 send a whole shed of infected women, to be gassed... 893 01:26:47,631 --> 01:26:50,021 together with both the barracks on the sides. 894 01:26:51,191 --> 01:26:56,709 In other words, 3,000 women murdered by a case of typhus. 895 01:26:56,871 --> 01:26:59,863 I was sure that Marta had typhus. 896 01:27:00,031 --> 01:27:05,264 And if he had known this, we would have for gas, all of us. Doctors and patients. 897 01:27:05,431 --> 01:27:10,822 It would come at unexpected times ask us for blood samples. 898 01:27:10,991 --> 01:27:13,630 It wasn't the first time that we did this. Not the last one. 899 01:27:13,631 --> 01:27:15,622 Hurry up, Gisella. 900 01:27:18,631 --> 01:27:20,302 Hurry, Giska. 901 01:27:23,321 --> 01:27:25,711 Very well, extend your arms so I can see. 902 01:27:25,731 --> 01:27:32,307 When Marta was there, the doctors, all The five of us drew our own blood... 903 01:27:32,810 --> 01:27:36,022 and we mark the tubes with the numbers of patients' tattoos. 904 01:27:36,191 --> 01:27:40,104 We were healthy. These others tubes were the ones we gave to Dr. Mengele. 905 01:27:40,271 --> 01:27:43,044 - And did it work? - Always. 906 01:27:43,111 --> 01:27:47,228 Yes, but that's not all. 907 01:27:47,391 --> 01:27:51,225 Dr. Perl saved my life many... many times. 908 01:27:51,391 --> 01:27:56,260 - So your sister survived too? - No. 910 01:27:56,431 --> 01:28:00,947 No. She was caught when one day we went to get food. 911 01:28:01,111 --> 01:28:04,740 When Irma Griese struck my Katya in my head. 912 01:28:04,911 --> 01:28:08,620 Katya. Katya, come. 913 01:28:08,791 --> 01:28:15,139 I wanted to try to bring her to Dr. Perl, but I wasn't strong enough. 914 01:28:15,311 --> 01:28:18,030 I couldn't lift it. 915 01:28:18,191 --> 01:28:22,104 We need... Dr., Dr. Perl. 916 01:28:33,631 --> 01:28:36,453 You go up there, and take a nice hot shower, yes? 01:28:36,453 --> 01:28:39,905 I have wonderful Paris bath oil. 917 01:28:40,071 --> 01:28:44,223 And while you're at it, I shop and let's have a great dinner together. 918 01:28:44,223 --> 01:28:50,580 - Don't you mind if I stay with you? - Oh, darling, you are a gift from God. 919 01:28:50,751 --> 01:28:56,188 - Now go. Take your bath. Go. - Okay, okay... 920 01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,120 KOSHER BREAD 921 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,220 Gisella Perl? 922 01:29:14,711 --> 01:29:19,589 - Zozia? - You can't serve that woman. 923 01:29:20,911 --> 01:29:27,031 Doctor. Doctor, please my sister. He's very sick. 924 01:29:28,551 --> 01:29:30,109 See? 925 01:29:31,231 --> 01:29:38,500 - No, no, she won't resist. I'm sorry, Zozia. - You have to help her, she will die. 926 01:29:38,671 --> 01:29:42,300 She won't make it through tonight, Zozia. Sorry. There is no place. 927 01:29:42,471 --> 01:29:45,763 Can't you please let her die here? With some dignity? 928 01:29:45,763 --> 01:29:50,659 - See, there is nowhere. - Please. I beg you. I beg you! 929 01:29:51,051 --> 01:29:53,106 Please, she killed my sister! 930 01:29:54,151 --> 01:29:55,907 She killed my sister! 931 01:29:58,631 --> 01:30:02,406 You are not a doctor. You are a murderer. 932 01:30:02,971 --> 01:30:04,502 A killer! 933 01:30:08,951 --> 01:30:10,589 Get out of my way. 934 01:30:16,835 --> 01:30:18,789 Oh! Pardon! 935 01:30:19,671 --> 01:30:23,905 Madame? Do I know you? 936 01:30:25,525 --> 01:30:26,285 No. 937 01:30:28,031 --> 01:30:30,022 Have we met yet? 938 01:30:41,831 --> 01:30:45,665 - I think I saw him today. - Who? 939 01:30:45,831 --> 01:30:48,425 Mengele. Dr Mengele. 940 01:30:49,471 --> 01:30:55,181 He looks different. and the accent It was French, but that doesn't mean anything. 941 01:30:55,351 --> 01:27:58,024 It could be a disguise. 942 01:30:58,191 --> 01:31:02,981 - Did he dare to come to New York? - Of course, he knew I was here. 943 01:31:03,151 --> 01:31:10,068 - Why did you come alone? - Because... because I know. 944 01:31:10,231 --> 01:31:13,267 I know the things he did. 945 01:31:15,391 --> 01:31:20,943 I saw the experiments. I saw the things he did to those women. 946 01:31:21,111 --> 01:31:23,671 Come. It doesn't take long. 947 01:31:23,831 --> 01:31:28,347 Just for the sake of your interest. Come. 948 01:31:37,911 --> 01:31:45,384 In your roles, how many twins Would you say you brought it into the world? 949 01:31:47,311 --> 01:31:50,462 Don't you know? You must know. 950 01:31:52,311 --> 01:32:00,659 - Please tell me. I like to know. - Maybe two. Two pairs of twins. 951 01:32:00,831 --> 01:32:05,746 Have you ever had a mother Who conceived multiple sets of twins? 952 01:32:05,751 --> 01:32:10,541 - No. - Well then, I have a very special case for you. 953 01:32:10,711 --> 01:32:15,288 We have a woman in the gypsy camp. arrived pregnant... no, she's pregnant with twins, 954 01:32:15,311 --> 01:32:19,699 but... This is what makes it very special. 955 01:32:19,671 --> 01:32:23,963 She already has identical twin children, aged 12. 956 01:32:24,071 --> 01:32:30,586 Wonderful guys. Robust. You should see the way they play football. 957 01:32:30,588 --> 01:32:34,861 You should see the way they steal the chocolates in my pocket. 958 01:32:35,031 --> 01:32:39,900 Very smart guys. I begin to have a lot of tenderness for them. 959 01:32:40,071 --> 01:32:46,434 Thus, a woman who has already had twins Now expect two more pairs of twins. 960 01:32:46,434 --> 01:32:48,388 - Impressive, isn't it? - Yes. 961 01:32:48,389 --> 01:32:52,059 In Campo gypsies provided us Very fascinating specimens. 962 01:32:52,231 --> 01:32:57,259 We have yet to determine whether the twins born are identical. We'll know soon. 963 01:32:57,431 --> 01:33:03,570 And when we do, how interesting opportunity to study boys, 964 01:33:03,581 --> 01:33:08,864 and these disciplines at the same time. Big precedent. And of course, we will study the mother too. 965 01:33:08,871 --> 01:33:14,660 She is the only one who can provide us the key needed to reveal the magic... 966 01:33:14,661 --> 01:33:17,824 secret behind conceiving twins. 967 01:33:17,991 --> 01:33:20,667 Sorry, but there is no magic, Dr. Mengele. 968 01:33:20,831 --> 01:33:25,584 No secrets to reveal, we already We know how things happen... 969 01:33:25,751 --> 01:33:31,825 Yes, yes, but Dr. Perl, if we could isolate the ova of a woman who has twins... 970 01:33:31,991 --> 01:33:35,269 Could we then apply this process in other women? 971 01:33:35,431 --> 01:33:39,860 Specifically in Aryan women? Think about the implications, huh? 972 01:33:39,860 --> 01:33:40,451 Yes. 972 01:33:40,451 --> 01:33:44,868 What an ingenious way of duplicating the pure Aryan race. 973 01:33:44,871 --> 01:33:49,820 So we first have to eliminate all contaminants of Aryan blood. 974 01:33:49,991 --> 01:33:58,464 A woman of the world, with her qualifications, your erudition, your culture... 975 01:33:58,631 --> 01:34:01,147 - without a doubt he speaks French, oui? - Yes, I speak French well. 976 01:34:01,311 --> 01:34:06,827 Wonderful! You know, I knew we had more in common than love of medicine. 977 01:34:06,991 --> 01:34:12,030 Even though she is a gypsy, she understands the German language surprisingly well. 978 01:34:12,191 --> 01:34:16,548 - Therefore, you and I, today we speak French. - Yes, agreed. 979 01:34:16,911 --> 01:34:23,430 - Voil�. doesn't she look strong? - Yes. 980 01:34:23,591 --> 01:34:30,619 When I saw her on the platform with the twins, I knew she was someone extraordinary. 981 01:34:30,791 --> 01:34:32,430 Two pairs of twins. 982 01:34:32,791 --> 01:34:38,590 Yes. We have to take care Very good of you, huh? 983 01:34:38,591 --> 01:34:47,186 And... and you, you did a very good job. 984 01:34:50,031 --> 01:34:55,584 A colleague will join us, and will observe her... 985 01:34:57,791 --> 01:35:00,430 I have to disinfect myself. 986 01:35:01,031 --> 01:35:07,961 No, no, not you. Not you. It is not necessary. You begin. 987 01:35:11,981 --> 01:35:16,748 Hello. What's going to happen here today, you know? 988 01:35:16,911 --> 01:35:23,020 Yes. I'm a prisoner. I'm just here to help me birth my babies. 989 01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:24,220 Are you okay? 990 01:35:29,031 --> 01:35:33,331 What are you waiting for? Boys, girls? 991 01:35:33,331 --> 01:35:34,661 I don't know. 992 01:35:34,691 --> 01:35:41,096 - Maybe a boy and a girl. - Perhaps. 993 01:35:43,791 --> 01:35:45,470 All very well. 994 01:35:55,631 --> 01:36:00,509 Oh my God, what have I done? 995 01:36:00,541 --> 01:36:03,045 My God! What did I do? 996 01:36:03,980 --> 01:36:05,965 God forgive me! God forgive me! 997 01:36:06,068 --> 01:36:07,985 Oh my God! 998 01:36:09,217 --> 01:36:11,228 What did I do? 999 01:36:11,311 --> 01:36:13,179 But you had no choice, Dr. Perl. 1000 01:36:13,669 --> 01:36:16,748 You never hurt any of us. All you did was help. 1001 01:36:16,831 --> 01:36:23,208 - I'll tell them this tomorrow, Dr. Perl. - Oh my good God, forgive me. 1002 01:36:31,911 --> 01:36:36,401 We usually give you phenol injections in the heart. It's cleaner, of course. 1003 01:36:36,871 --> 01:36:40,307 Maybe it would be difficult to decide, So it was better. 1004 01:36:40,471 --> 01:36:44,864 Dr. Perl, please clean the blood in her belly, 1005 01:36:44,864 --> 01:36:47,864 sonderkommader* received instructions about her death. *(Prisoners who worked in the Fields) 1006 01:36:48,031 --> 01:36:51,883 - Death? - Then. Yes. Quick please. 1007 01:37:00,791 --> 01:37:03,305 - And get her in the truck, now. - Yes. 1008 01:37:03,471 --> 01:37:07,510 We have to be quick. And clean this room from floor to ceiling. 1009 01:37:07,671 --> 01:37:10,082 Heavens, what a mess. 1009 01:37:17,911 --> 01:37:19,344 Come on, come on, come on. 1010 01:37:21,271 --> 01:37:23,994 Dr. Perl, You are welcome to observe, of course. 1011 01:37:24,111 --> 01:37:28,787 No. My patients. I have to get back to them. 1012 01:37:28,951 --> 01:37:30,907 As you wish. 1013 01:37:34,311 --> 01:37:41,022 Oh, my God, I will keep it pure and holy both, my life and my heart. 1014 01:37:41,191 --> 01:37:47,346 Yes. I... I will keep pure and holy both, my life and my heart. 1015 01:37:47,511 --> 01:37:51,986 "And every house you enter, I will come in to help the sick... 1016 01:37:51,986 --> 01:37:53,785 To help the sick! 1016 01:37:53,831 --> 01:37:59,940 Yes! And I will abstain from all evil practices that may be harmful. 1017 01:38:00,111 --> 01:38:05,899 Yes. My God. well if I, fulfill this oath... 1018 01:38:05,921 --> 01:38:10,385 imply that not only does it win for always, reputation among all men... 1019 01:38:10,385 --> 01:38:12,524 for my life, and for my heart. 1020 01:38:12,551 --> 01:38:16,986 "but if I transgress it and renounce it, then... 1020 01:38:16,988 --> 01:38:19,648 "May the opposite fall upon me. 1021 01:38:21,311 --> 01:38:24,463 May the opposite fall upon me. 1022 01:38:36,551 --> 01:38:43,462 Pap�. Daddy, forgive me, I beg you. 1023 01:38:45,551 --> 01:38:49,590 Forgive me, Daddy. Pap�. 1024 01:38:49,751 --> 01:38:54,620 � Daddy, forgive me. Pap�. 1025 01:38:54,891 --> 01:38:59,468 I did everything I could, Daddy. I promise you. 1026 01:38:59,631 --> 01:39:04,433 I promise, I tried, I tried to believe. 1027 01:39:04,867 --> 01:39:08,867 Even in that hell I tried, so strongly believe. 1027 01:39:10,031 --> 01:39:12,323 - I beg you. - No, please... 1028 01:39:18,871 --> 01:39:22,784 Doctor... Doctor. Dr. Perl? 1029 01:39:22,951 --> 01:39:29,828 Dr. Perl! The kapo* broke my arm. I'm expected to work for about 20... *(Field Guard) 1030 01:39:29,991 --> 01:39:34,740 You have to wait behind the others. These women waited for treatment all day. 1031 01:39:34,740 --> 01:39:35,835 Doctor! 1032 01:39:39,471 --> 01:39:40,427 One moment. 1033 01:39:50,271 --> 01:39:53,104 Sit down. Extend your arm. 1034 01:39:53,271 --> 01:40:00,540 Because I have nothing my sister will die? Dr. Perl, are you listening to me? 1035 01:40:00,711 --> 01:40:05,944 Or all the bread you have received does it clog your ears? 1036 01:40:06,111 --> 01:40:12,505 Please, my God. My God, forgive me for Zozia. 1037 01:40:13,887 --> 01:40:15,231 My God... 1038 01:40:16,151 --> 01:40:23,740 Forgive me for denying help to those who had nothing to give me. 1059 01:40:23,751 --> 01:40:26,821 I was just trying to live. 1060 01:40:26,991 --> 01:36:32,269 Is it a crime to want to live? 1061 01:40:32,431 --> 01:40:36,394 Do you want to live? Do you want to live Giska? 1062 01:40:36,394 --> 01:40:37,789 Yes. 1063 01:40:40,071 --> 01:40:44,746 Listen to me. Listen. 1064 01:40:44,911 --> 01:40:50,462 As a doctor, you are incredible, Giska. A miracle for us. 1065 01:40:50,631 --> 01:40:55,705 Yes, we laugh at you when you speak of your soirées there in Sighet. 1066 01:40:55,871 --> 01:40:59,659 Recite poems to them and sing to them songs, while you see them die. 1067 01:40:59,831 --> 01:41:04,302 All I have to deal with them are words, Ruth. Not medicines. Just words are everything. 1068 01:41:04,471 --> 01:41:11,706 Words or medicines, Giska, all they will all die. And so do we. 1069 01:41:11,871 --> 01:41:14,643 No, no, no. You don't understand. The minute you lose... 1070 01:41:14,643 --> 01:41:17,186 hope, is the minute where you begin to die, my friend. 1071 01:41:17,191 --> 01:41:18,350 As? 1072 01:41:18,350 --> 01:41:23,787 Giska, how can we maintain hope, if we have already given our souls? 1072 01:41:23,951 --> 01:41:28,350 - I didn't deliver anything. - Why do you live in this fantasy world? 1073 01:41:28,361 --> 01:41:32,305 - What are you talking about? - Giska, see what you have become. 1074 01:41:32,471 --> 01:41:35,250 - How dare you accuse me? - Shhh! Shhh! 1075 01:41:35,250 --> 01:41:39,499 We will see how brave you are, when Mengele selected you to take you... 1074 01:41:39,671 --> 01:41:42,549 - I'm not accusing you of anything. - Yes, you are accusing me. 1075 01:41:42,656 --> 01:41:46,549 Listen to what I say. They will take us everyone to the gas chambers. 1076 01:41:46,549 --> 01:41:49,064 I refuse the gas chamber. 1077 01:41:49,231 --> 01:41:54,860 I will not die here. Did you hear me? 1078 01:41:55,031 --> 01:41:58,660 No. I refuse. 1079 01:41:58,671 --> 01:42:04,104 I refuse gas. 1080 01:42:05,191 --> 01:42:08,183 I refuse. 1081 01:42:10,113 --> 01:42:12,332 -I refuse!- I didn't want to die. 1082 01:42:17,151 --> 01:38:19,970 I didn't want to die, Papá. 1083 01:42:24,911 --> 01:42:30,907 I remember I wanted being a doctor when I was little. 1084 01:42:31,071 --> 01:42:34,686 And I became a doctor. 1085 01:42:36,751 --> 01:42:39,267 A very good doctor. if I may say so. 1086 01:42:39,431 --> 01:42:47,540 I know these children I helped to bring to the world, they were a gift. 1087 01:42:47,711 --> 01:42:51,670 Not mine, but God's. 1088 01:42:52,751 --> 01:42:56,580 But everything changed when I was deported to Auschwitz... 1089 01:42:56,580 --> 01:42:59,299 and then I started working there as a doctor. 1089 01:43:00,311 --> 01:43:05,431 Do you know some things that I did it there, for pregnant women. 1090 01:43:05,591 --> 01:43:10,267 But, yes, I also sent it, due to ignorance... 1091 01:43:10,431 --> 01:43:15,744 many women to death the day after my arrival. 1092 01:43:15,911 --> 01:43:22,065 And yes, some of the things what I did there... 1093 01:43:22,731 --> 01:43:27,988 Some procedures I underwent forced to use it... 1094 01:43:28,151 --> 01:43:32,427 they were not honorable. 1095 01:43:33,671 --> 01:43:38,825 So you're right. I have blood on my hands. 1096 01:43:38,991 --> 01:43:46,021 And believe me, I see it as clearly as you can see this tattoo here on my arm. 1097 01:43:46,191 --> 01:43:51,946 Both of them will identify me forever, as having been a doctor in Auschwitz. 1098 01:43:52,111 --> 01:43:57,625 Not only to the outside world, but... for myself. 1099 01:44:00,471 --> 01:44:05,555 And I know it's very difficult for you to understand, gentlemen... 1100 01:44:05,555 --> 01:44:08,910 not having been there. but it's the truth... 1101 01:44:09,071 --> 01:44:13,543 I just did what I had to do it to survive. 1102 01:44:15,711 --> 01:44:22,741 Those of us who didn't survive, Maybe in a way, they are the best of us. 1103 01:44:25,231 --> 01:44:27,949 My family. 1104 01:44:29,471 --> 01:44:33,749 Frederick, my husband. My mother and my father. 1105 01:44:33,911 --> 01:44:40,304 David, all my brothers. Imre, my son. 1106 01:44:40,307 --> 01:44:46,770 They will not join me here. There will be no return home for them. 1107 01:44:50,891 --> 01:44:59,708 So why did God allow me to survive? Nobody knows. 1108 01:44:59,871 --> 01:45:06,325 I have to believe it was so I could help bring more children into the world. 1109 01:45:06,391 --> 01:45:09,104 Free children. Children with possibilities to live. 1110 01:45:09,271 --> 01:41:14,286 Understand, if I could help a Jewish child coming into the world... 1111 01:45:14,286 --> 01:45:16,854 and she grew up to have children and they had children, 1112 01:45:16,854 --> 01:45:21,440 then the Nazis wouldn't have defeated. Do you understand this? Yes? 1113 01:45:22,351 --> 01:45:26,548 A million innocent children were killed by Mengele. 1114 01:45:26,711 --> 01:45:30,101 I want to bring a million of children to the world. 1115 01:45:30,271 --> 01:45:33,652 Until the day I die, I have to help rebuild... 1116 01:45:33,652 --> 01:45:36,504 what the Nazis tried so hard to destroy. 1117 01:45:36,671 --> 01:45:38,671 Please gentlemen, allow me to do That's it, here in America. because... 1118 01:45:38,671 --> 01:45:45,621 If I cannot, then believe me. God shouldn't have allowed me to live. 1119 01:45:47,791 --> 01:45:49,509 Please. 1119 01:46:03,791 --> 01:46:09,229 - What's going on? - The Russians are here. The Russians are here. 1120 01:46:20,031 --> 01:46:21,340 Simon... 1121 01:46:21,511 --> 01:46:29,379 Simone, your baby is free, Simone. 1122 01:46:29,431 --> 01:46:33,549 Your baby is free. 1123 01:46:35,391 --> 01:46:41,670 The first baby to be born free in Auschwitz. 1124 01:46:58,951 --> 01:47:01,760 Despite some of its actions during prison... 1125 01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:03,680 may be questionable... 1126 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:04,942 his intentions were not. 1127 01:47:05,431 --> 01:47:07,652 These actions were continually focused on your survival... 1128 01:47:07,852 --> 01:47:09,522 and survival of the women in your care. 1129 01:47:09,571 --> 01:47:13,427 We therefore approve your citizenship application. 1130 01:47:13,438 --> 01:47:15,631 Dr. Perl, your secretary just called. She said... 1131 01:47:15,631 --> 01:47:18,331 Olga, wait for me. I'll be there in half an hour. 1132 01:47:18,341 --> 01:47:19,650 She said it was an emergency. A woman is... 1133 01:47:19,650 --> 01:47:23,900 going into labor. I have it here your things. You can go immediately. 1134 01:47:23,905 --> 01:47:25,268 Olga, send the woman here. 1135 01:47:25,268 --> 01:47:28,668 Olga said she doesn't want to go to the hospital. She is terrified of hospitals. 1136 01:47:28,831 --> 01:47:33,222 She lives on the Lower East Side. Apparently this woman knows her from Sighet. 1137 01:47:34,271 --> 01:47:36,104 Oh my God. 1138 01:47:39,784 --> 01:47:42,104 Thanks. Thanks. 1139 01:47:59,979 --> 01:48:01,124 Thanks. 1140 01:48:09,031 --> 01:48:11,024 - Dr. Perl? - Yes! 1141 01:48:11,221 --> 01:48:13,619 Up here. Up here. 1142 01:48:13,903 --> 01:48:15,132 Oh my God! 1143 01:48:17,651 --> 01:48:22,026 Quick! My wife, please. Up here. 1144 01:48:22,291 --> 01:48:25,359 - Where is she? - It's here. She talked about you all day. 1145 01:48:25,471 --> 01:48:30,348 - Do you have an apron? - Yes, here. hmm... 1146 01:48:30,756 --> 01:48:32,845 - Here. Light. Light. - Thanks. 1147 01:48:32,851 --> 01:48:34,667 She's here. 1148 01:48:35,911 --> 01:48:40,302 Boil some water. Arrange clean sheets and warm them. Quickly. 1149 01:48:45,951 --> 01:48:49,784 Here's your Dr. Perl. Here she is. 1150 01:48:52,391 --> 01:49:00,689 Leiku! Oh, Leiku! we have a lot of time to cry, Leiku. We have work to do, don't we? 1151 01:49:01,991 --> 01:49:06,870 Breathe slowly. Breathe deeply and calmly. That's right. 1152 01:49:06,889 --> 01:49:08,895 Breathe. Breathe. 1153 01:49:10,791 --> 01:49:05,989 God help me. I must be capable of bringing life back today. 1154 01:49:30,511 --> 01:49:33,979 A gift, Leiku. 1155 01:49:34,571 --> 01:49:40,266 A gift from God. Finally. 1156 01:49:42,111 --> 01:49:45,945 Dr. Gisella Perl passed making a flourishing... 1157 01:49:45,945 --> 01:49:48,642 private practice in New York City. 1158 01:49:48,642 --> 01:49:52,424 bringing more than 2,000 babies into the world before emigrating to Israel in 1981. 1159 01:49:54,671 --> 01:49:57,665 Once in Israel he worked at Shaare Zedec Hospital in Jerusalem�m. 1160 01:49:57,831 --> 01:49:50,833 He died in 1988. 1150 01:49:58,951 --> 01:50:03,910 Captions blueindigo 1151 01:52:22,500 --> 01:52:25,500 the PRODUCER SPECIALLY THANKS AO HOSPITAL SHAARE ZEDEK IN JERUSALEM INC 1152 01:52:48,500 --> 01:53:00,000 TO THE ASHES