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The man obviously is
very, very sick.

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He should not be allowed to stay
among people again.

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I want to see her fear when she
shall die. I just cut and cut.

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The conclusion must be that my client
has committed the said act.

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We also have from the Governor...

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for the second time
empty the pond in the forest.

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Away. Gone forever.

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I admit. That was me.
I wanted to see her fear.

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I murdered every single one.

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Dad? Dad?

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- Dad!
- Yes?

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- Then the man takes the cat across the river.
- Okay...

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Wait!
He takes the dog back.

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- Then I'll take it.
- No! He brings the milk back.

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Should I leave the doggy?

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- Sorry.
- Shit task!

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- Oh, wait. Forgiven.
- We're just trying again. Thank you, thank you.

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We try again. Don't give up so easily.

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I speak
with Hannes R�stam, the journalist?

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Yes.

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Do you remember the fires
in Falun 75-76?

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- No.
- Around ten young people were sentenced.

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- Although they were innocent.
- Yes, how do you know?

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I know that, before that
that lit the fires...

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it was me.

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- Okay.
- Check it out.

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Thanks.

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Why do you want this job?

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I find digging journalism
It's very exciting. And very important.

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If I say I received an anonymous
call from a possible pyromaniac

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- who has avoided justice for 30 years,
what do you say there?

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- Erm, really exciting?
- Um...

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But, that we use all means
like and... follows him.

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- Here's the next one.
- Thank you.

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The problem is that the case
has been barred for 20 years.

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- Yes, no, there before we screw it up.
- Mm.

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If that's true, there is
a group of 45-year-olds in Falun-

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- who took the blame
as tones and were convicted.

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We must talk to them.

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It says here that you are reading
eleven hundred words a minute.

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Etc.

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- Really?
- Yes.

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Most CVs start in 19-20-years-
the elder. Yours starts when you are twelve.

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Yes, that was when I moved away from home.

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- When you were twelve?
- My family are Jehovah's Witnesses.

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Yes. And?

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Yes, they got me
to... love... truth.

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In February -76. Many fires in
The valleys. Does a pyromaniac belong in Falun?

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I definitely don't want to join.

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- �at least two� or three exist...
- You hear what I'm saying. No.

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Okay, so you line up
on a filmed interview? Thanks.

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- Yes!
- Thank you! Very good. Fine.

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Thank you.

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How is it otherwise there?
Is it busy or not?

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We should be helped
and expose these lies-

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- which spreads inaccuracies about
that Thomas Quick is innocent.

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- Wasn't he convicted of ten murders?
- �tat.

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But if it is as you say that
he is guilty of the eight murders-

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- isn't that a journalistic achievement
to reveal that the judgments are correct.

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He is guilty and they are lying.

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- Thank you for this time.
- They mislead the public!

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If I admit and I don't
have done it, what's going on?

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"You shouldn't do that," he said.
"But if you admit it before you go."

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Wait, stay here.
This is how you back some squares.

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- So we play the music earlier.
- �even earlier?

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Now, run.

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"So before you leave here. Before
you go home." That's what he said.

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Yes.

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The whole truth about the Falu fires
will never arrive.

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But it is quite clear that several
of the participants in the report-

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- has admitted fires
in which they never participated.

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And then Molly said I was ugly
and that Sara was stupid-

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- but that I was also stupid,
though not as stupid as Sara.

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- Well, it was very good.
- It wasn't good at all. In addition...

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- Quick again?
- Hall�?

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Well, that you weren't as stupid
like Sara, it was good, wasn't it?

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- Molly is stupid in the head.
- I don't think you should say that.

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It is true.

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- You have said that truth is good.
- Do I have it?

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Yes, I probably have.

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"The case of Thomas Quick is depicted
in all its blood-curdling detail."

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"The most comprehensive description
of Sweden's worst serial killer."

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"Quick Murdered by Lust"-

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- "and to give vent
for his sadistic inclinations."

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"His victims, including several children,
went to the meeting horrified"-

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- "when the psychopath
and the cannibal Quick struck."

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"A must for anyone who wants to follow
with into the darkest passages of the soul."

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"A place where the border between
monsters and humans have been erased."

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Dad!

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“Quick was diagnosed early
sadistic pedophile"-

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- "and judged
not only be dangerous"-

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- "but sometimes dangerous before
another's safety to life and limb."

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This was already written in 1970.

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A year after he quite roughly
molested four little boys.

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One of them when he was employed
in a hospital.

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No, well, take it easy.
It is investigation.

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- Don't touch it with your hands!
- Stop!

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And three years before he almost
stabbed a man to death in Uppsala.

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- But listen to this.
- Go to hell...!

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Quick was convicted of eight murders, but
have admitted probably about 20 more.

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Before he took back
his real name Sture Bergwall-

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- and fell completely silent
about seven years ago.

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Here. Johan Asplund, eleven years old.

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Disappeared
when he was on his way to school.

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The Stegehuis spouses.

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Stabbed to death
when they were on holiday in Appojaure.

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Yenon Levi, young Israeli.

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Killed with a wooden stick.

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Charles Zelmanovitz.

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Disappeared on the way home from a school dance.

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And here.
Therese Johannessen. In Norway.

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Nine years. Disappeared
when she was out in the yard playing.

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Trine Jensen.

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Gry Storvik.

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Also� in Norway. Both two
sexually murdered. Do you understand?

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Different geographical locations.
Different approaches. Different sex.

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Different ages. Different everything.
He must be completely unique in the world.

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This is absolutely incredible.

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- How the hell did you manage all this?
- Worked a bit at night.

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Crazy interesting, but...

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And how is that possible
to be convicted of murder

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- when you don't even know
that a murder has been committed?

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When there isn't even a body.
As in the Johan case.

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After all, no one has seen him.
We're going to root a little in this.

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Look around a bit, fact-check.
I'm talking to Erik.

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- He will say no.
- He will say yes.

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No!

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But unless we dig into it here
so no one else will do it.

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The Quick case is second only to the Palm murder
the most noticed in modern times.

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Everything is found.

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- And all of them are still open.
- We could work in parallel.

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- No.
- Well, before you...

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No!

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I'll just have a quick look.

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You. File room 4?

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File room 4. Good luck.

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Close the door when you're done.

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Yes?

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Jenny, listen here.
"They then drove off"-

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- "but not for long, but stopped
where the road was a little wider."

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“They took the body out of the car
and Quick carried it"…

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Hannes.
What exactly are we looking for?

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The evidence. I just want to see
real evidence. Do you understand?

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I want to see him guilty,
then we can leave.

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S�ter, department 31.

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Hello, it was Hannes R�stam here again
from Sweden's Television.

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I called earlier
to hear about the possibilities-

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- to meet Sture Bergwall
and maybe do...

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Wait. He has declined all visits
and journalist interviews for many years.

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- I understand.
- Unfortunately, I can't help you.

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I understand. Okay. Thanks.

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- How are you on mail?
- Huh?

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I thought he might
would appreciate receiving a letter.

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Best Sture.

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I know you've been here for several years
has turned his back on journalists.

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Which I see
as a highly understandable choice.

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But I still wanted to ask the question-

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- if it were possible
to meet you.

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None of what we discuss
will be published.

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I'm just asking you
about an unconditional meeting.

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It is my conviction that one
conversation could be fruitful-

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- not just for me,
but also for you.

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With kind regards,
Hannes R�stam.

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Has he hit all the tricks?

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Before he has made it
from there to there in 50 minutes.

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- Yes, it is...
- You know what? We do so here.

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Five minutes of conspiracy theory.

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Think if it is as the witness says
that Quick couldn't drive.

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- That's where the complainant's entire evidence falls.
- Hello.

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What's going on here?

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We, uh, work on
on a sequel to...

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the pyromaniac documentary.

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- There's more to pick up there, isn't there?
- It's worth checking anyway.

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Yeah, uh... good.

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Josefsson, when will I see anything?
You said Wednesday, right?

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- Thank you.
- We'll see the evidence. Then it's done.

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- Hello.
- Hello.

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Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew...

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I think like... sausage stroganoff,
maybe? Or?

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Mm, that's very good.

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Where is Emma? - Emma?

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Emma?

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- Hannes?
- Hello, Hannes R�stam.

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- Where is Emma?
- I have read your letter.

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And show your film on TV
about the Falupy novel.

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- Hell!
- Seriously?

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You seem very serial.

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You can visit me at Seater
for an unconditional meeting.

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With kind regards...

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- Hey, Emma.
- Sture Bergwall.

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Bergwall has taken everything in
and out on S�ter since the 70s.

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He sat there
when he started confessing to murder.

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A G�ran K�llberg was a doctor
at that time.

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Since the last sentence in 2001, he has none
contacts outside the institution.

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Erm, Bergwall has now been silent
for seven years now, s...

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Yes, good luck tomorrow.

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I strangled her.

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According to the �verl�kar
so you get ten minutes.

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Does it work?
so it will be more next time.

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If you want to get out
so you press it here.

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We'll get there faster
before you blink.

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- Hello.
- Steer.

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- Hannes.
- Hello. Nice. Yeah...

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- Did the trip go well?
- Yes.

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- There was a lot of forest.
- It's nice.

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The forest.
I like running in the forest.

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- Are you running?
- No. Er... Or no.

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- No. Shall we sit down perhaps?
- Yes.

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- Do you drink coffee?
- Yes, please.

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- I brought some coffee bread with me.
- �h, how good.

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Thanks.

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Etc.

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Wiener bread.

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Is there a son here
that you record with or?

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It's a mobile phone.

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- is it a mobile? Before I look?
- Absolutely.

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I never spoke
in a mobile phone.

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Do you only talk like this here?
Hello, hello?

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Secret arms.
Have you seen it?

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There you go, Sture. You, uh...

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When you came here, it was Gorbachev
still in power in Russia.

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- Yes.
- There was no internet.

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Kurt Cobain was still alive.
How do you survive such long isolation?

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Only way to survive in here
it is to be incredibly routine.

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- Incredibly routine.
- What do you do during the day?

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- Can you describe a day?
- Shall I just tell?

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- Sure.
- 05.29 I get up.

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And after the morning procedures-

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- I come out to the kitchen at 05.54,
where I collect my breakfast.

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I am so punctual that the hosts say
that they can set the clock after me.

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06.05 I call you
on another watch.

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To be let out in the picnic area
to take my morning walk.

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The walk lasts
for 1 hour and 20 minutes.

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07.25, that's when I shower.
I usually get very sweaty.

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Then my work takes
with reading crosswords at.

237
00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:28,900
I get a lot of difficult crossword puzzles
and never leaves any unsolved.

238
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:33,900
Sometimes they can take several days
to read, but I always read them.

239
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:37,800
At 21.30 I go to bed
and turns off the light.

240
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:43,200
And then it becomes dark.
"Pitch black", as they say.

241
00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:50,600
You live under extreme...
rigorous security arrangements.

242
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,900
But can't you, Hannes R�stam,
tell me a little about yourself?

243
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,200
- Do you have a family?
- Yes.

244
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,700
- What does your day look like?
- Er, yes, I... have a family.

245
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:04,500
Hmm.

246
00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:07,900
- Nice. Do you have children?
- Mm.

247
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:10,500
Yes. Boy or girl?

248
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:17,100
- Uh, it's a girl.
- �h, how nice. Girls.

249
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,800
- It must be wonderful fun.
- Yes, that...

250
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,500
And what is her name?

251
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:43,100
- Her name is Emma.
- h. What a beautiful name.

252
00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:50,600
Yes, it is...

253
00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,100
- See there, here. That was it.
- Okay.

254
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:32,400
I don't know.
He is incredibly difficult to dismiss.

255
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:36,500
He is a mentally ill person.
There is no talk of the matter.

256
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,200
And honestly,
I know the hell what we're doing here anyway.

257
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:48,400
- What was his name the �verl�karen p� Seter?
- K�llberg?

258
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,300
I think hell
I just drove past him.

259
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:54,100
Damn, damn...

260
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:59,500
- G�ran K�llberg?
- Yes, that's right.

261
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,300
- Hello. Hannes R�stam. I am...
- I know, I've seen you on TV.

262
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:14,600
You were chief medical examiner at S�ter
during the Quick era, right?

263
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,000
Yes. We stayed here.

264
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:26,100
Could you imagine talking
a little with me about Thomas Quick?

265
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,100
There is secrecy about that.

266
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,200
- I have just met Sture.
- Yeah?

267
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,000
- How is he?
- I don't know.

268
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:40,300
- It is difficult for me to judge.
- Yes. It's hard for everyone.

269
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:44,300
Good luck.

270
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:48,600
If Bergwall reads you
from privacy, can you talk there?

271
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,400
I feel great loyalty
against S�ter's forensic psychiatric clinic.

272
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,300
But I don't want to be involved
in the reporting of a court scandal.

273
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,200
K�llberg talked about a court scandal,
but there is technical proof.

274
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:26,800
The pieces of bone from the Therese case.
Quick pointed out the location in Norway.

275
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,800
We're talking about pieces of bone
from a child, Hannes. Here...

276
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:38,700
I can tell you
that technicians found bone fragments-

277
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:43,300
- from that very place
as Thomas Quick pointed out.

278
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,300
And that's what the complainant himself says.

279
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:50,600
And in this one, the piece of bone
they found a cut from a saw.

280
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,500
One was also found at the site
curved file blade that fit into the cut.

281
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,300
Well, that's it.
There we have the evidence.

282
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,500
Good. Good.

283
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,100
Make it a point to grab
that leg bit, you think?

284
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000
It seems pretty impossible, but...

285
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,600
this is really serious,
must be said.

286
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:35,100
- What the hell are we doing?
- He is convicted of eight murders, Hannes.

287
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,100
Absolutely sick murder.

288
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,700
Gry Storvik, Oslo.

289
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:45,000
Seized and...
You see. Completely understood.

290
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:02,800
Hello.

291
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:07,500
Are you alone tonight?
Do you want company?

292
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:20,100
Do you have a place we can go to?
You don't say much.

293
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,600
Sture, you have admitted
a large number of murders.

294
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,300
And sentenced for eight of them.

295
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:42,000
Do you stick to these confessions
still?

296
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,100
The confessions stand firm, yes.
They do.

297
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:50,400
It's clear.

298
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:59,700
I wonder - what would happen if
you were allowed to stay freely out in society?

299
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,600
Would you murder and molest children again?

300
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:07,800
No, no, no.
I wouldn't do that.

301
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,800
What would happen to you if you,
let it be said that you were allowed to live free-

302
00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:15,100
-under some supervision of course?

303
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,300
The doctors believe that I must be supported
within the forensic psychiatric world.

304
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:25,400
I've heard what they say.
Now I ask you.

305
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:28,500
You seem to be
a fairly normal person.

306
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,300
- Do you think so?
- Yes. Sensible.

307
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,600
What fun. And I would
not be, you mean?

308
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,300
No.

309
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:42,400
You are considered Sweden's
most dangerous and craziest mental case.

310
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:43,900
Yes.

311
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,300
M�ns. Can...

312
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Well, I wanted... just to pick up
an old cookie jar with some pictures in it-

313
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,400
- which I thought you might have
a certain interest in seeing.

314
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Yes, of course.

315
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,300
It's mainly, uh,
on my twin sister.

316
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,000
Here is Gun. And she is completely normal.

317
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:28,300
- She is not a psycho.
- There's Gun.

318
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:31,700
Here is a picture of me when I...

319
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,900
- I was quite cute as a child.
- Let's see.

320
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:38,300
- How old are you here?
- Uh, three.

321
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,100
Look here.

322
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,300
- And this was a bit embarrassing.
- Why was it embarrassing?

323
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:52,800
This woman is the only woman
with whom I have ever had intercourse.

324
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,700
The only one?

325
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:03,000
It was for a period.
I had a hope that...

326
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,200
able to live together
with a woman perhaps and have children.

327
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:12,400
Look here. Here is Patrik and I
home from Iron Maiden in the Globe.

328
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,300
Can I borrow some of the photos?

329
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:19,200
- You bring them back.
- I'll probably take Lina's picture...

330
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,500
So maybe we
should start filming be the meeting too?

331
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,800
If you think it's okay.

332
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,800
Answer: yes.

333
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,900
This is the only woman
Sture has never had sex with.

334
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:38,200
According to him himself.

335
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:41,800
- What the?
- Exactly.

336
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
It is certainly not Gry Storvik.

337
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,500
How often
usually homosexual pedophiles-

338
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,500
-rape and kill grown women?

339
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:59,200
- He's worried, don't you think?
- Yes, or...

340
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Or so he tried
manipulate me in any way.

341
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:31,700
What the hell? It's Sture Bergwall
who has lit up in Falun?

342
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,600
- It's just something we're checking on.
- It is actually my responsibility.

343
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:42,100
Really. One of Sweden's most
noted mass murderers.

344
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:47,300
 �the complainant... van der Kwast. He has
got him convicted of ten murders.

345
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,800
Eight.

346
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,300
- And that's completely wrong?
- That is absolutely not what we are saying.

347
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:55,800
- But that's what you think.
- We are looking at the evidence.

348
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,700
How many families settled down
with a madman murdering their loved ones?

349
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,600
It affects hundreds of people.
Do you understand what that would mean?

350
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,800
- Look at my face.
- I look at your face.

351
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,800
- What do you see?
- One senses a certain hesitation.

352
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,800
It's a big damn doubt.

353
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:24,600
It's quite simple. Either lying
Bergwall or so� he is telling the truth.

354
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:28,600
If he is telling the truth, we have nothing.
If he doesn't, damn you.

355
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:32,600
- That's the scoop of the decade.
- Yes, nothing to that effect.

356
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:37,700
Damn. It's Eva. She's sitting down there
in a taxi and waiting.

357
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,100
We're going to Dramaten.
I also have doubts about that.

358
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:44,500
- It can be seen quite clearly.
- Thank you, thank you for that.

359
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,900
Okay, damn it. But I want to
tangible evidence. Satan's damn solid.

360
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,300
You must be able to build my new house
on them. Does that sound good?

361
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:55,900
It sounds great.

362
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:59,100
Yes, I'm coming. It starts eight.

363
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,200
Satan's damn solid. He will
able to build their new house on them.

364
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:09,100
We have to get hold of it now
who was with S�ter from the beginning

365
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,200
-before Sture began confessing to murder.

366
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,000
Where do we find one?

367
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,700
- Mia Ekberg?
- Yes.

368
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,800
Hannes.

369
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:46,900
- Yes, anonymously.
- Absolutely.

370
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,600
- Is it okay if I take some notes?
- Sure.

371
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:59,000
- Yes. You worked as a caretaker at S�ter?
- Yeah.

372
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,600
Well, I was there from, er... from -91.

373
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,000
Sture is coming back
a couple of months later then.

374
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,800
- After that bank robbery, you know.
- Mm.

375
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,100
He was down.

376
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,500
Almost completely apathetic.

377
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,600
- Are you feeling well?
- No, I feel bad.

378
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,200
Try to rest for a while.

379
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,200
I think Sture was the loneliest
person I have ever met.

380
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:56,000
He needed someone to talk to.

381
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:03,300
And then you came...
yes, Birgitta St�hle to S�ter.

382
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,800
And... Margit Norell d�, of course.

383
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,300
Dear colleagues.

384
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:22,700
With great reverence, I now give the floor-

385
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,800
- to the creator
of the Holistic Association.

386
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,800
The woman who in �ratal had the start
within psychiatric development.

387
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,500
The woman who created methods-

388
00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:38,300
- to penetrate deeper
in man's innermost secrets.

389
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,600
Everyone's guide
and learner: Margit Norell!

390
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,000
Thank you for the kind words, Birgitta.

391
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:17,600
I want to get straight to the point.

392
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,500
What we know, friends, is...

393
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:29,000
that man unconsciously
categorizes other people-

394
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,300
-in light of previous relationships.

395
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,200
And think again
what that means in practice.

396
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Personality disorders can be explained
through object relations theory.

397
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,400
Like the ability of man
to find suitable representations-

398
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:54,300
- and thereby establish
sustainable relationships are st...

399
00:39:55,500 --> 00:40:01,000
because all later relations
refers back to the mother.

400
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,200
Violent crime by adults
are almost always reimaginings-

401
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,800
- of the abuses he himself committed
was exposed to during childhood.

402
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,400
And many years of experience
of object relations has taught me-

403
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:23,800
- that in the calmest waters
the biggest fish swim.

404
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,800
And... the sickest.

405
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Those who most need our help.

406
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:44,300
- And what happened then?
- Yes...

407
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:49,500
Sture nags p� that he wants to
"talk it out", as he says.

408
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,200
No harm in Sture,
he just needs a friend.

409
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,800
Do any of you have time
to be Sture's friend?

410
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:08,700
We got along well, Sture and I.
I think he...

411
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,600
liked me

412
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000
- Like a friend, that's all.
- Mm, of course.

413
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Wondering what you would think of me-

414
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:27,600
- if you found out that I have
did something really, really gross.

415
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:31,600
What, rough?

416
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:36,200
I can give you... a clue.

417
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,600
Okay.

418
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,500
M... U.

419
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:50,100
- Mu?
- Yes.

420
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:02,700
I met an old friend of yours.
Mia - who worked here.

421
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,300
- Beautiful Mia!
- Do you remember Mia?

422
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:10,700
She was actually one of the nicest
people I have ever met.

423
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:13,100
She said you had…

424
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,300
started telling horrible things
as you might have done for her.

425
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,500
- And then she talked about Margit Norell.
- She did it?

426
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:34,200
Anyway, Margit, she...
She was like a mother.

427
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:37,800
Everyone's mother.

428
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:43,700
Birgitta and Margit actually have
wrote a book together.

429
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:46,700
- About me.
- A book? What book is there?

430
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:51,100
It was well thought that it would
revolutionize psychiatry.

431
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:56,800
It was a follow-up to Freud's
case study on the Werewolf, they said.

432
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,900
It was never issued.
I don't know why.

433
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:04,300
But I found a copy in my room
when I supported here.

434
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:13,100
Dammit!

435
00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:18,800
- Hello. Sorry, I forgot the phone.
- Norell has written a book about Sture.

436
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,600
- �h hell.
- Yes, that's true. "She's incredible."

437
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:26,000
"Can you imagine?
She has written a book about me."

438
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,600
And where is it?
Right here in front of me...

439
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:38,300
Hall�?

440
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,300
It's more like
that it is in the hand.

441
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,600
You see I can move my thumb,
but there is more here...

442
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:49,700
- Hello. How are you?
- Well, that was one heck of a hit.

443
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:52,600
But it seems to have gone well.

444
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,800
Someone said I didn't have to...
Before I stay overnight-

445
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,800
- but it would be great if I escaped,
before I have things to do...

446
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,100
We would like to x-ray you first.

447
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,300
We found something on CT
which... we will investigate further.

448
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:53,000
Which has nothing to do with the accident.

449
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:58,000
A piece of fabric
which should not be there.

450
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:03,800
- Yeah?
- Soon someone will help you.

451
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:19,900
I watch a new documentary every week
about people who survive cancer.

452
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:26,600
Cancer in the media and in reality
It's a bit different things.

453
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,500
Yes, yes. But if you would
take a guess...

454
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,800
If it is the one
there is a suspicion of…

455
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,900
- it may be difficult to operate.
- Okay.

456
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:40,800
And then we look
on alternative treatment methods.

457
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,800
And I want to be completely honest.
Only where it sits...

458
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:50,300
If it has spread will
it cannot be cured completely.

459
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:58,100
Hi, Emma. It's dad.
How are you?

460
00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:01,300
- Good. Are you coming home?
- No, not today.

461
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,600
I'm sorry I'm missing out
the football. I would need...

462
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,600
- Help, help! Don't you remember...
- What are you doing for nothing?

463
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:11,800
- You have such a strange little finger.
- N�h�.

464
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,200
- Yes!
- No!

465
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,300
- It is completely normal.
- Completely normal?

466
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,100
- Emma!
- It's ugly!

467
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,700
- It isn't!
- Emma?

468
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,300
- You can talk to mom.
- No, I want to talk to you.

469
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:31,400
Old man, now you listen to me.

470
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:49,000
Well, what the hell, Hannes?

471
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:53,200
I was just a little distracted.
I should have had a little better control.

472
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:59,300
- I hope they checked properly.
- Yes. It's calm.

473
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,300
I just couldn't take the train home.
So thank you for this.

474
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,600
Well, that goes without saying.

475
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,800
Yes. Tell us a little about yourself.

476
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:17,800
About myself? It is not
much more than what you see.

477
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:22,700
When were you last happy?

478
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,600
It was well when you hired me.

479
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:29,200
- Damn!
- What the? You there?

480
00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:42,900
Today when I talked to my daughter
on the phone. It... it was nice.

481
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:54,600
You, this is what we do,
this is what we're up to...

482
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:59,000
It must be important.

483
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,100
- Sure enough.
- What is important to you?

484
00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:06,600
That is the truth.

485
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,000
That's where we go.

486
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:13,200
We do.

487
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:16,600
But first my... favorite dish.

488
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,200
Vegetable gratin!

489
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:03,300
The first stab opens the trunk
and then the right leg is taken off.

490
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:08,400
The patient reproduces here.
He tries to repair Simon.

491
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:16,300
Steer? You know Mia who works here?

492
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:21,900
Do you remember the conversation as you
had with her down by the beach?

493
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:24,100
And....? Yes, exactly, yes.

494
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,400
What does "MU" mean?

495
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,300
- "MU."
- Yes...

496
00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:39,200
It was before I have...

497
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,200
may have made me guilty
to some terrible things.

498
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,100
- Some memories have surfaced.
- Good. Tell me about those memories.

499
00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:55,100
I have...

500
00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:00,700
faint memories of a car ride.

501
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,100
- A car ride?
- To Sundsvall.

502
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:15,500
- I have memories of blood.
- Blood?

503
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:20,400
- And a little boy.
- Boy?

504
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:22,800
A little boy.

505
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:28,300
As I think he said, his name was Johan.

506
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,700
And "MU"? What does this mean?

507
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,300
Yes, it has to do with this.

508
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:45,000
- Steer?
- "Murder".

509
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,400
- Huh...?
- "Murder."

510
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,300
Have you murdered yet?

511
00:50:56,700 --> 00:51:00,600
- Have you killed Johan?
- That's what I don't know.

512
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,600
Steer?

513
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,200
- Gone forever. Gone forever.
- Calm down, Sture.

514
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:15,200
Hello, baby face.

515
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,800
"Cliff" speaks only English,
Even if Sture doesn't.

516
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:23,300
And that is not unusual at all
that the alternative identities-

517
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:26,500
- in a person's body
speaks a foreign language.

518
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,400
I like the feeling
of your deadline!

519
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:35,100
- But it's Ellington growling?
- Yes.

520
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,800
- Steer.
- Calm down, Sture.

521
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,000
No!

522
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,500
No!

523
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,600
Not the neck, mom! Not Simon!

524
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:56,300
At the same time as
they sexually abused him-

525
00:51:56,500 --> 00:52:00,900
- butchered the mother and father
Sture's little brother's foster Simon-

526
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:05,200
- and forced everything� Sture
to take parts of him.

527
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,900
Sture recreates here.

528
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,900
He has internalized
their terrifying experiences.

529
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:18,400
It is absolutely fantastic
that he has begun to remember.

530
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:25,000
Violent crime by adults
are almost always reimaginings-

531
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:29,600
- of the abuses he himself committed
was exposed to during childhood.

532
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:48,900
Christer van der Kwast was one
nobody to the Johan Asplund case.

533
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,300
There he hears that a mad man is sitting
talked about the Johan Asplund murder.

534
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:02,200
What has he said?

535
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:05,400
- And shortly afterwards he created...
- The governor.

536
00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:09,800
Pointed out places where he has
hidden Johan Asplund's body parts.

537
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,600
Technicians currently searching
after the hands outside Falun.

538
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,800
We hope and believe that this
disappearing for a quick fix-

539
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,900
- and that Johan's parents have answers.

540
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:27,100
But his parents never believed
that Quick was behind the disappearance.

541
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,300
We never settle for
Sture Bergwall murdered our son.

542
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,900
The truth lies elsewhere. That
we have told everyone and the police.

543
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,500
We have said that
to Christer van der Kwast.

544
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:46,600
But no body was found.

545
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:51,200
The fact that we didn't find anything doesn't mean
that there is nothing to find.

546
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,800
Blomgren.

547
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,000
We also have
information provided by the Governor-

548
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,400
- that he in 1964 as a 14-�ring-

549
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,600
- murdered the fair Thomas Blomgren
in V�xj�.

550
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:10,700
- What do Johan's parents say?
- is it a serial killer?

551
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,500
Sture was able to describe the place in detail
where Thomas Blomgren was murdered.

552
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:23,300
Seppo Penttinen was
van der Kwast's faithful squire.

553
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,700
Sture, can you try to show approx
where were you in the morning?

554
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:37,900
We come from the south,
as i remember it...

555
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:40,600
Just so I understand what you're saying...

556
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,400
- You weren't alone?
- No.

557
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:48,200
So you murdered with a friend?
Who was that?

558
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,300
A gentleman called Sixten Eliasson.

559
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,700
It was he who drove the car.

560
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,800
Sture's supported consent period
was not followed up properly.

561
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:09,900
The bones in the Therese case are all there
the only technical evidence.

562
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,700
But maybe it's time for you
to take a little trip to Norway.

563
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:40,300
The police in Drammen videotaped everyone
fences with Quick in Theresefallet.

564
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:44,900
You can borrow the cassettes for 24 hours
if they do not leave the country.

565
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:50,300
S... it will be
First Hotel Ambassadeur in Drammen.

566
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:53,400
I have ordered late checkout.

567
00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:29,500
How's it going, Sture?
Are you taking the medicine?

568
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,900
- Do you need some water?
- No, I... I have coke.

569
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:51,200
Is he sleeping? Can you wake...

570
00:56:57,500 --> 00:57:01,400
Are you pointing at something, Thomas?
Is there anything you see?

571
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:14,000
That's what I didn't want to see!

572
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,700
- What didn't you want to see?
- No, it was an upheaval!

573
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:24,900
Nomis!

574
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,500
Come and help me. Help me!

575
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:34,300
"Nomis"? What is it, Thomas?
Do you recognize yourself?

576
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,300
I can't say where
we're going to turn, I can only point.

577
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:43,000
Can you point to where we should turn there?
- Then we turn right next.

578
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:46,700
- Did I say that?
- Yes, you said it exactly, Thomas.

579
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:49,800
- Okay.
- You are very good now.

580
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:06,700
- Heart and stomach and kidney...
- Do you recognize yourself, Thomas?

581
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,100
Steer?
Is this where you killed her?

582
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:12,100
Yeah, yeah.

583
00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:17,700
The spine is crooked in some way.

584
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:20,700
Sven-�ke, what the hell is he saying?

585
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:28,200
Enter the memory when you kill her.

586
00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:36,800
- You know what...
- Hogwarts!

587
00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:39,800
Take it easy now, Sture!

588
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:43,500
Thomas, Thomas! Thomas!
Where have you hidden Therese?

589
00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:55,600
- Gone forever.
- Is that you, Ellington?

590
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:05,700
Through the initial regression
for Sture contact with the event.

591
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:09,500
With this, we can also produce
a complete memory of the event.

592
00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:12,100
Where did you dispose of the body, Thomas?

593
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,600
- Here.
- is this the place?

594
00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:26,600
- Search for your hidden memories.
- Do you feel anxious when you see the pond?

595
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,000
I had to get into the hard part, the...

596
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:35,000
- Can we break now?
- Yes, we're taking a break. - City current.

597
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:53,400
Sture has therefore� at point 1
completely massacred the body.

598
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:56,600
I cut Therese open with a knife.

599
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:02,500
Then he swam out into the middle of the lake
and dropped the body parts there.

600
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:06,300
- Good.
- Talk so we understand.

601
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:11,900
- This is the fear.
- The pond is the fear?

602
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:17,000
Do you see the place? Was it here?
Did you dump her in the pond?

603
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:12,000
- How was Norway?
- Norway was Norway.

604
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,600
What is this for?
It was on your table.

605
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,200
What is that for?
are you sick

606
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,000
You can't be. Or how?

607
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:36,200
Then you would have told it
in that case.

608
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,100
You should have told it before
your wife and your daughter, right?

609
01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:50,000
It's too late to do.
You talk to each other.

610
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,200
- Are you going there? Huh?
- N�men, hang up now.

611
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:01,800
But say something, Hannes.

612
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,900
Say nothing.

613
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,100
Forgiven.

614
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,300
- You dropped out of the investigation.
- Yes, I did.

615
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,100
Why you?

616
01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:59,200
Because it was like a pure farce.

617
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:06,500
For me it is quite simple.

618
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:12,200
If the investigation could present
a single concrete tangible proof-

619
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:15,800
- that Sture Bergwall has done
what he has admitted-

620
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,800
- I would possibly
shut up...

621
01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:22,900
He could pinpoint the location
where Gry Storvik was murdered.

622
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:29,000
He knew the location of the stabbing
in Appojaure.

623
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:35,300
And then we have the bone bite
in the Therese case.

624
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:39,900
But take these secrets with corpses
that he talks about.

625
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:45,100
Why have they never been found?

626
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:48,300
And one more thing
which you should check out…

627
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,400
It's about Sture Bergwall now
has left a single task-

628
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,700
- like the police
have not already known.

629
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,000
Oh, what work you put in!
You have been to Norway...

630
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,300
honestly i have to say-

631
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,900
- that the trip to Norway and all that
I say there has made me very...

632
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:27,500
considerate.

633
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,800
- Yeah?
- I saw the police video recordings.

634
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:39,700
You were given a lot of medication,
right?

635
01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:45,900
During the ramparts
so you seemed extremely affected.

636
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:54,100
Honestly, you acted as if
you have never been to the place before.

637
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:03,300
Sture, can you understand that this is
what do i see when i watch the video?

638
01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:16,900
If it is so-

639
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:21,800
- that I have not committed a crime
to any of these murders...

640
01:05:23,500 --> 01:05:26,100
What should I do then?

641
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:33,800
If you're not guilty, Sture,
so now you have the chance of a lifetime.

642
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,500
Everyone here thinks they know
that I am guilty.

643
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:42,500
Six different courts
have convicted me of eight murders.

644
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:47,900
I know that. But if you are innocent
and is prepared to tell the truth-

645
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:51,300
- plays all that other stuff
no role whatsoever.

646
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,600
I think we break here now.

647
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:35,600
It's Sture.

648
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:40,400
It's Hannes. I just thought here
how it felt after our meeting today.

649
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,000
Well, um...
Anyway, it feels good.

650
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:50,000
- How do you feel?
- Me?

651
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,400
A few days ago my colleague asked
me when I was last happy.

652
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,300
And I said it was
when I talked to my daughter.

653
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:05,600
You usually say so.

654
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,800
And I mean, I love her
and all is well there, it is not...

655
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,600
It's just that rarely I really
I'm there with her with all of me.

656
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:20,400
I mean I...
I'm thinking about something else.

657
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,900
And when are you happy?

658
01:07:29,300 --> 01:07:30,900
Right now.

659
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:40,200
Sture, I'm still in S�ter.

660
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,100
Before I come and say hello to you
tomorrow?

661
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:50,800
You know, you're so welcome.

662
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,300
Hi there.

663
01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:10,600
Steer?

664
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:16,100
You have said
that you have committed 30 murders.

665
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:18,800
Yes.

666
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:24,300
But there are no witnesses,
no dna, no technical evidence.

667
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,300
How is that possible?

668
01:08:28,900 --> 01:08:33,000
You have told about
your parents' sexual abuse.

669
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:40,000
How you... were forced to take parts
of your brother Simon's foster.

670
01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:45,100
And all this must have happened without
that the rest of the family noticed nothing.

671
01:08:45,300 --> 01:08:47,300
Who's lying?

672
01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:00,300
I haven't started-

673
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,100
- some of those murders
I am convicted of-

674
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,300
- and not a few
of all the others I recognized either.

675
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:11,000
That's the way it is.

676
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,500
But why, Sture?
Why did you admit that?

677
01:09:31,300 --> 01:09:33,300
It...

678
01:09:33,500 --> 01:09:37,300
I have actually wondered myself.

679
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:45,600
When I came here after the bank loan had
I have no contact with my family.

680
01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:48,000
And I felt totally valued.

681
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:53,300
I had long fancied psychoanalysis
and psychotherapy, not least.

682
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,800
I would just like to
inform that...

683
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,200
that I have thoughts on
to take my own life.

684
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,000
Can you say that
to the therapists there?

685
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,600
And the first cut, it hits the butt...

686
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:12,800
I understood that here at Seater applies
the bringing up of horrible memories.

687
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:17,400
Mom takes a piece of meat
and puts in my mouth.

688
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:21,400
And I say, "No, Mom!
Mom, I'm not hungry!"

689
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:26,000
- Sture reproduces here.
- And the leg comes off.

690
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:29,200
He wants to repair
his little brother Simon-

691
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,600
- through the body parts he saves
from the individuals he has killed.

692
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,300
I try to take Simon's hand.

693
01:10:38,500 --> 01:10:41,300
I take the hand and discover...

694
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,700
that the hand is off.

695
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:52,800
And that's it
that's all this dying is about.

696
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,100
The little boy.

697
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,700
It is absolutely fantastic
that he has started to remember now.

698
01:10:58,900 --> 01:11:04,100
But it is very logical, Birgitta.
So difficult things are hidden away.

699
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,000
The child is trying to survive. So it is.

700
01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:16,200
And now he needs your help
to sort through all this chaos.

701
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:21,700
Thanks.

702
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:42,100
- Good day, Sture.
- Hello. Hello.

703
01:11:42,300 --> 01:11:46,600
I would like to introduce you
a very good friend.

704
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,000
Sven-�ke Christianson.
And he works for the police.

705
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:53,400
- Hey, Sture.
- Hello, hello.

706
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:58,800
What a pleasure to finally meet you.

707
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,300
I'll help you remember
things you probably need.

708
01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:05,800
I often help the police with things.

709
01:12:05,900 --> 01:12:09,300
- He's as good as anyone at it.
- How good.

710
01:12:09,500 --> 01:12:13,000
It's a bit funny.
You and I are almost the same age.

711
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:18,300
- Yeah�?
- I have been a visiting researcher in the USA.

712
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:20,300
No?

713
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:25,100
And there we have something
which are called "serial killers".

714
01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:27,600
Ouch. It doesn't sound good.

715
01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:31,600
And a known serial killer
It's Jeffrey Dahmer.

716
01:12:31,700 --> 01:12:35,300
And... he's not all that different from you.

717
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:45,200
Before I ask you... What do you think he is
felt when he dismembered his victims?

718
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:52,700
I would like to say
that the primary feeling was, um...

719
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:59,200
colossal... impotence.

720
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,600
Extremely interesting. Great, Sture.

721
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:07,500
We will talk a lot about this.
I look forward to it.

722
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,300
As soon as I started to find memories
I got an incredible response then.

723
01:13:12,500 --> 01:13:16,500
- Sture feels very good.
- He will get more Xanor if he wants.

724
01:13:16,700 --> 01:13:18,800
And what about the room...

725
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,900
- All in all, an incredible response.
- In what way?

726
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:27,900
- In the form of therapy and medication.
- What medicine do you have?

727
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:31,500
- Mainly benzodiazepines. Xanor.
- Benzo?

728
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,500
I even got a bigger room.

729
01:13:44,300 --> 01:13:46,700
Birgitta? Can you sit down?

730
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:49,100
And it was that way.

731
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:54,600
The more I could tell,
the more benzo I could get�.

732
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,800
And the more benzo I could get�-

733
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:04,300
- the more unrestrained
could I be in my story.

734
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:11,700
Hi Sture.

735
01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:14,500
N�men, good day. Hello.

736
01:14:16,300 --> 01:14:17,900
Yeah...

737
01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:22,500
What are you writing about today?

738
01:14:22,700 --> 01:14:25,900
I have started to write a small text-

739
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:30,100
- which might become a book
about all the terrible things that have happened.

740
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,300
Yes, but what fun.

741
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:37,100
I actually also have thoughts on
to write a book about it.

742
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,400
You, uh, I've talked
with Margit and Birgitta.

743
01:14:41,500 --> 01:14:45,700
And they said
that you might want to talk…

744
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,000
about a little boy.

745
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:57,000
I don't want to do that. I want
on the other hand, please provide information-

746
01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:03,000
- about a trip that went to Norway,
where I can have...

747
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:11,000
kidnapped, raped,
murdered and dismembered a girl.

748
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,200
- A girl?
- Mm.

749
01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:18,800
It was a bit odd, I must say.

750
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,800
- Why did you stop confessing?
- The doctors stopped the medication.

751
01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:26,500
It was just before the Asplund verdict.

752
01:15:26,700 --> 01:15:30,500
Take it from the beginning.
Tell us about the therapy.

753
01:15:34,900 --> 01:15:37,400
I'm going to kill Thomas!

754
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:42,200
It was a colossal pressure from
the therapists that I should tell.

755
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,000
Sture, was it Cliff or Ellington
who killed Yenon?

756
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,800
Steer! Was it Cliff or Ellington
who killed Yenon?

757
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,500
I lay here shaking...
Have you seen when one is detoxified?

758
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,800
So when Ellington takes shape
and research-

759
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,300
- but fails to
to take back their power

760
01:16:02,500 --> 01:16:05,800
- that's the first time
in his life-

761
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,100
- as Sture got to experience
object constancy.

762
01:16:10,700 --> 01:16:13,900
Yes, it is extremely interesting.

763
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:17,300
We have to remember
that the only period of security-

764
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:21,100
- as Sture knew with his mother
must have been in the womb.

765
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:25,000
But there was, too
twin sister Gun.

766
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:30,500
The mother could relate to her.
But never to Sture. Never.

767
01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:33,600
- I think she wanted him dead.
- Yes.

768
01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:35,800
The little boy.

769
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,600
- You can turn it off there.
- I'm really sweaty.

770
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:50,600
It would be very valuable to me
to get access to your journals.

771
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,700
- But... no, I don't think I want to.
- Why not?

772
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:01,000
It feels so terribly embarrassing
to let an outsider participate

773
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,200
- of all that I have said and done
under all they hear.

774
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:11,100
Everyone has read about how you murdered
children and �tit of their bodies.

775
01:17:11,300 --> 01:17:15,700
What can reasonably be left
which can be embarrassing for you?

776
01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:19,500
It's all so embarrassing
as it can only be.

777
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,200
- But, I...
- No, Sture. No. You know what?

778
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,500
Two rules if you will
that I should continue with this.

779
01:17:27,700 --> 01:17:30,300
(1) Never lie to me.

780
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:34,300
From now on you speak
always truth. Do you understand?

781
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:36,600
Sure. Yes.

782
01:17:36,700 --> 01:17:40,600
(2) I must get a power of attorney.

783
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:45,800
- are we verens?
- Yes, of course.

784
01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:47,600
Good.

785
01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:52,100
Here. Take it here.

786
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:57,000
- But hide it in a safe place.
- Sure.

787
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:00,500
No.

788
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,100
I have installed underfloor heating,
but that's exactly what I read-

789
01:18:04,300 --> 01:18:10,500
- that if you have too high a temperature you can
the concrete slab absorbs moisture from the ground.

790
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,200
So now before you don't have so much.

791
01:18:13,300 --> 01:18:18,500
One should not raise and lower,
because the differences in temperature can...

792
01:18:18,700 --> 01:18:22,200
- Can you stay here?
- What, here?

793
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,200
K�llberg!

794
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:31,600
- I tried to call you.
- I know.

795
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,600
- You don't want to talk to me or do you?
- No.

796
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:39,600
Just one question, one last question.
I have read the journals.

797
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,000
It seems to coincide in time
that Sture's medication is discontinued

798
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,000
- and that he stopped confessing to murder.
Is that correct or not?

799
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:52,800
I discovered that Sture had given birth
too much medicine for too long.

800
01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:56,700
- So I cut off the flow.
- And then did he stop talking?

801
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,500
Yes.

802
01:19:00,900 --> 01:19:05,400
- What do you think about that then?
- I think a lot about it.

803
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:09,600
- But no bells rang there?
- All possible bells rang.

804
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,800
But you let them call? You thought
not that you would do anything?

805
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:19,200
Maybe you thought it was right
to him? That he could sit there?

806
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:23,000
That it was part of the "integration"
on Seats? Was it so?

807
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,800
But why did you do nothing?

808
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,800
I checked the possibility
to request travel.

809
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,000
- Did you?
- Yes. But they said it was impossible.

810
01:19:37,900 --> 01:19:41,900
- So, good luck.
- Can you say this on film?

811
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,700
On the positive side, we see-

812
01:19:54,900 --> 01:19:58,700
- that your body tolerates
the chemotherapy.

813
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,900
How much time do I have left?
A year? Half a year?

814
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:04,700
It's a question we often get.

815
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:08,700
We usually cannot specify
no exact time-

816
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:13,300
- because it is
extremely individual.

817
01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:20,000
And... we want to focus
on your quality of life.

818
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,700
Sture has taken back
their confessions.

819
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,500
And I got all his journals.

820
01:20:30,300 --> 01:20:33,500
Find now
who can make it this comprehensible.

821
01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:38,100
What about the leg pieces?

822
01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:42,000
- Kwast rejects independent experts.
- Do we need them?

823
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:45,000
- But...
- Without them, we will not progress.

824
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:49,500
The bone bite can be all the difference
about the Swedish legal system-

825
01:20:49,700 --> 01:20:53,700
- has sentenced a mentally ill person
For eight murders he has not committed!

826
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,800
- Or if we're out cycling.
- Mm, I know, thanks.

827
01:20:59,700 --> 01:21:03,500
Why do you say things to me
that I already know?

828
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,200
What is this thing?

829
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,800
- Sorry.
- Mm.

830
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:31,200
The interview protocol from Therese-
the case. Quite an interesting reading.

831
01:21:36,300 --> 01:21:39,900
In connection with the herding
so� you mention a task-

832
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:45,500
- about any form of scarring
on Therese, on her arm.

833
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:50,500
Or arms. I don't really remember.
If you can develop it, that's good.

834
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,200
No. I don't know that...

835
01:21:55,700 --> 01:21:58,300
A skin comea?

836
01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:05,500
- A flammability...?
- Like a flammability?

837
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,600
Yes.

838
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,600
But, you...

839
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:15,600
Now I look at your facial expression
that it evokes a memory.

840
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,500
You're great, Sture.

841
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:23,100
Yes. You see, only leading questions.

842
01:22:26,300 --> 01:22:30,500
But wait, I hope we mean it
same thing with "a flammability".

843
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,000
Is it like she has a disease?

844
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:38,800
Or is it a natural flamboyance
just for the moment?

845
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:43,000
It could be a flamboyance
just for the moment.

846
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:49,600
But it could be something she has. Me
remember it as a distinct flammability.

847
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,900
Now you are pointing at the top of your arm.

848
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:57,300
- Is that where you see it?
- Yes.

849
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,900
And here. Sture's lawyer
does not say a word.

850
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:05,400
As I said, Therese is a blonde girl.

851
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:10,600
She has pink sweatpants.
She has big front teeth.

852
01:23:11,700 --> 01:23:14,900
And she walks on grass
when I grab her.

853
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,100
- On the grass?
- I see a lot of grass in front of me.

854
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:21,300
- What do the houses look like?
- They are ordinary houses.

855
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:25,500
- Big houses, small...?
- Single-family houses, villas and...

856
01:23:27,700 --> 01:23:32,900
Now we have talked a lot
about deliberate deviations.

857
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,900
Could it be wrong to talk today?
about the girl's appearance-

858
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:42,000
-for that reason?

859
01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:46,000
- Yes.
- Mm.

860
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,500
Do you have any comments on the verdict?

861
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,800
The conclusion must be that my client
has committed the said act.

862
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,300
- Will you appeal the verdict?
- That before I bring my client.

863
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,300
But that is hardly likely.

864
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:06,300
So says one who gets paid with
state money to help Sture.

865
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,100
Before I ask what your angle is?

866
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:34,200
From the beginning I had no angle,
but i have to admit-

867
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,700
- that the more I read of the investigation,
the more skeptical I become.

868
01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:43,500
How much time
have you worked on this?

869
01:24:43,700 --> 01:24:46,800
- A few months.
- Not full time then?

870
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,900
Yes. And with some help.

871
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,200
Hmm.

872
01:25:00,500 --> 01:25:02,300
Taxi Stockholm.

873
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,300
Why said Thomas Quick
that Therese Johannessen-

874
01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:19,200
- wore pink sweatpants
when she disappeared?

875
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,600
And headbands and... patent leather shoes and...

876
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:29,100
large front teeth.

877
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,300
Yes... Yes, that...

878
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:39,600
It...

879
01:25:46,900 --> 01:25:50,300
Excuse me, we... Can we take a break?

880
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,200
- What are you up to?
- Sture's journals.

881
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:04,300
A pharmacology professor said that now
with a late dose of benzodiazepines-

882
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:09,300
- can't relate to at all
the world in a functional way.

883
01:26:09,500 --> 01:26:11,200
Good.

884
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:19,600
Did you know that Sture Bergwall
abused narcotics

885
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,500
- so-called benzodiazepines
throughout the investigation?

886
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,100
I don't comment on that.

887
01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:29,500
I know he has
an addiction problem behind him.

888
01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:33,400
- But not when he was at S�ter.
- Yes, he had.

889
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,300
P� S�ter they called it
for "as needed medication".

890
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:41,600
So he could botanize completely freely
sometimes all different kinds…

891
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,200
- I do not accept that statement.
- Forgiven?

892
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:48,100
- I do not accept the claim.
- You don't accept...?

893
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:52,800
It is the chief prosecutor's judgement.
That is not my claim.

894
01:26:52,900 --> 01:26:57,300
- And I do not accept the claim.
- No...

895
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,800
A piece of fabric
which should not be there.

896
01:27:02,300 --> 01:27:07,400
Okay, we're going back
to the Therese case. You said...

897
01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:11,800
- That he changed.
- Exactly. And got more and more right.

898
01:27:11,900 --> 01:27:17,600
But after 20 months he persisted
that Therese had an ear band.

899
01:27:17,700 --> 01:27:21,000
- That's how it can be sometimes.
- It could be so�?

900
01:27:21,100 --> 01:27:24,900
- That's how it can be sometimes.
- Okay.

901
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:32,900
Your ex client Thomas Quick has
retracted all his confessions.

902
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:37,100
- And now claims that he is innocent.
- Yeah.

903
01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:41,400
If you persist
that the police and psychologists-

904
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:45,000
- rigged and manipulated courts
to convict an innocent-

905
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,400
- I say it never has
occurred in Swedish legal history.

906
01:27:49,500 --> 01:27:51,400
No.

907
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:57,000
And what is that saying
that he is telling the truth now?

908
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,100
I don't know. It's as if...

909
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,100
We have come close to each other.
Do you understand?

910
01:28:07,300 --> 01:28:10,500
It is as if he has become
my best friend or something.

911
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,700
Is that so?
Is Sture Bergwall my best friend?

912
01:28:14,900 --> 01:28:17,400
But what the hell, Hannes...

913
01:28:18,500 --> 01:28:23,100
Yes, why not?
He really wants to be ready.

914
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,000
He wants to be good,
he wants to help me, he wants...

915
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,900
He wants to fit in where he is,
for example on S�ter.

916
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:34,800
He is so incredibly I-weak
and lightweight.

917
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:40,200
If even his lawyer says
that he is guilty when he chooses to be.

918
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,000
Boring point of view, I think.

919
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:50,000
Yes, but maybe that's the truth.
Do you remember it? The truth?

920
01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:54,800
Etc.

921
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,100
You seem doubtful.

922
01:29:07,500 --> 01:29:13,600
- I don't know what to believe.
- Do you remember the married couple Stegehuis?

923
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:19,900
You know the ones that…
were stabbed to death in their tent.

924
01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:23,500
Yes.

925
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,600
I come from this place.

926
01:29:28,900 --> 01:29:31,000
There, Jonny takes over.

927
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,100
So I take the knife back.

928
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,300
- Thomas.
- There, look!

929
01:29:38,500 --> 01:29:40,900
- No, no!
- Now before you give up.

930
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,800
What the hell...

931
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,500
- Help here now!
- Thomas!

932
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,100
Pull him back! - Thomas!

933
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,300
- Sture, come back.
- Hang in there.

934
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,200
- Before I talk to Sture? Ellington?
- Now we break.

935
01:29:56,300 --> 01:30:00,000
Yes, it was a colossal immersion.
Really.

936
01:30:09,100 --> 01:30:12,600
It is of the utmost importance
that we optimize the conditions-

937
01:30:12,700 --> 01:30:16,300
- so that he can get there
the hidden memories.

938
01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:19,800
Sture, get into the feeling
what it's like to be a murderer.

939
01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:24,100
Feel how it feels to pour
in the knife and distribute the stabbing.

940
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:28,700
This is how you get to your memories.
Shall we try it then?

941
01:30:28,900 --> 01:30:33,500
Sture, could it be that you approached
you the tent from somewhere else?

942
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,600
I would like to say right.

943
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,400
But nowadays
I think it was probably the left.

944
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,500
- Good, Sture.
- Shall we try again then?

945
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:51,500
No, it was a real fucking circus.

946
01:30:52,300 --> 01:30:56,600
In this investigation tolerated
not that anyone thought differently.

947
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,300
They went out.
It was like a fucking cult.

948
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:07,100
And I still don't have that
told the worst. Levi.

949
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:13,000
The one they found
on a forest road in R�rshyttan.

950
01:31:14,500 --> 01:31:20,100
There was another suspect, though
the evidence against him they conjured away.

951
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:25,200
And at this stage
Is the Israelite there unconscious.

952
01:31:25,300 --> 01:31:29,500
But I lift him out,
in this way.

953
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:36,100
S�. And so for safety's sake
so I bang my head so...

954
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,800
towards the car.

955
01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:42,800
Jeez, how heavy! S�.

956
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:49,100
And now I would like to know
on a jack and a stone.

957
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:58,300
Thanks.

958
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:06,000
S�. And now I get
a memory image of a knife.

959
01:32:07,500 --> 01:32:09,100
A knife?

960
01:32:09,300 --> 01:32:12,900
Which I can't place right now
in the context.

961
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:16,300
There I take that jack... there!

962
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,800
He sits up.

963
01:32:19,900 --> 01:32:24,900
And at this stage I make up my mind
there to meet a kick. S�!

964
01:32:30,700 --> 01:32:35,900
Now we reset. Completely zeroed.
Now the focus is only on Yenon Levi.

965
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:42,200
Get to know nature, smells
and lives that rustle...

966
01:32:43,300 --> 01:32:46,800
Do you recognize anything on the ground
of wood structure or wood?

967
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,100
Yes, yes, yes. Well, now I do.

968
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,700
It was like...

969
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,600
Or to...

970
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:04,600
You see nothing as long-suffering
agree with what you...

971
01:33:06,500 --> 01:33:09,200
That was it. S�.

972
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,000
It's crystal clear to me now.

973
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:16,100
- Can we break now?
- Great, Sture.

974
01:33:27,100 --> 01:33:30,900
- What about the bone pieces?
- Yes, I'm working on it.

975
01:33:31,100 --> 01:33:33,500
- Good.
- To you, Jenny.

976
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:49,700
Oh, you bastards.

977
01:33:51,500 --> 01:33:53,500
From Sture's sister.

978
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,600
She and Sture were confirmed the same
day that Thomas Blomgren was murdered.

979
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,700
Pentecost, 1964.

980
01:33:59,900 --> 01:34:06,100
Two days in folk costume with dance,
party, witnesses... photographs.

981
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:10,600
50 miles from Blomgren.

982
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,000
There is no stronger alibi.

983
01:34:17,900 --> 01:34:22,200
This is what she told the police,
but they never followed through on it.

984
01:34:22,300 --> 01:34:25,500
Well, they followed it up,
it was just...

985
01:34:27,300 --> 01:34:33,100
Seppo Penttinen followed it up,
but they never found the place.

986
01:34:34,700 --> 01:34:36,600
Huh?

987
01:34:37,900 --> 01:34:40,900
- What place?
- That place, uh...

988
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,100
The place where they were...

989
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:51,300
Uh...

990
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,600
Ehh... What the hell do I have...

991
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,900
Sture had just said that...

992
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,300
He had said she had an earmuff
and large front teeth.

993
01:35:08,500 --> 01:35:11,200
- Are you going there?
- We found nothing.

994
01:35:11,300 --> 01:35:15,000
- You should have told me that.
- I told him that.

995
01:35:15,100 --> 01:35:18,300
- To whom?
- To whom? To whom?!

996
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,000
- Huh?
- Uh...

997
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,500
Why haven't you said anything?

998
01:36:33,300 --> 01:36:35,700
You do things carefully, Hannes.

999
01:36:39,100 --> 01:36:42,300
When you work, damn you work.

1000
01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:48,200
So when you get cancer, you don't
any crap cancer.

1001
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,000
Who knows?

1002
01:36:57,700 --> 01:36:59,600
The family.

1003
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:06,100
Emma wonders who will go with her
to the football now that I'm going to...

1004
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,700
These damn doctors know nothing.
They are just guessing.

1005
01:37:15,900 --> 01:37:19,500
There are people with my diagnosis
which lives for three months.

1006
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:23,700
And then there are those who... survive
until they die a natural death.

1007
01:37:23,900 --> 01:37:27,100
There is no ID
to speculate about it.

1008
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:30,500
Help me out of here now.

1009
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,800
When was your life at its best, Sture?

1010
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:58,900
Yes, I would probably say that
that it was in Grycksbo.

1011
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:03,200
- The Grycksbo�ren was the best time.
- Why you?

1012
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:07,400
I was sober
for the first time in 15 years.

1013
01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:13,100
For example, I could celebrate Christmas
with my friend Patrik and his family.

1014
01:38:13,300 --> 01:38:17,200
What is this? Amen, a cardigan?

1015
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:25,000
And the aunties in the bingo hall
liked me a lot.

1016
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:26,800
46. ​​Four, six.

1017
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,600
- But it didn't end so well?
- No.

1018
01:38:31,700 --> 01:38:35,300
Take it easy, Patrik, dammit!
Take it easy!

1019
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:39,000
- It ended in a terrible tragedy.
- With the r�net?

1020
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:43,800
Fix the keys to the bank vault!
Go to the bank and collect the money!

1021
01:38:43,900 --> 01:38:49,200
I'm staying here and I'm going
kill every single one in your family-

1022
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,100
- unless you come back
with money!

1023
01:38:52,300 --> 01:38:55,000
Is that you, Sture?

1024
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,500
Satan perkele!

1025
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:04,600
- And that's what brought you here?
- Yes, it was very stupid.

1026
01:39:06,300 --> 01:39:09,400
The murderers, Sture.
Can you tell us about the trials?

1027
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:15,200
It was a nightmare.
It was a horrible period.

1028
01:39:30,300 --> 01:39:33,900
Quick was usurped by his father
from the age of four.

1029
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:37,800
He is ordered from his childhood
and do not endure the fear.

1030
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:43,800
He thinks he can destroy a life
and thereby recreate their own.

1031
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,300
But the relief is short-lived.
He must kill again.

1032
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,600
The difficulty was that the memory images
since the murders have been-

1033
01:39:54,700 --> 01:39:58,600
- fragmentary
and that it sometimes took...

1034
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:03,200
You said earlier
that you lured Yenon Levi into the car.

1035
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:08,100
But how could you with your limited ones
language skills to communicate with him?

1036
01:40:08,300 --> 01:40:12,700
Before that I became Cliff
and he speaks excellent English.

1037
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,400
Hello, baby face!

1038
01:40:15,500 --> 01:40:20,600
Early in the therapy came the Simon incident
into a deep regression.

1039
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:26,500
It was Thomas's greatest wish
to get his little brother back.

1040
01:40:26,700 --> 01:40:29,600
To "fix Simon", as he says.

1041
01:40:33,900 --> 01:40:37,500
The man is a serial killer,
pedophile, necrophile...

1042
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,700
Johan Asplund's mother.

1043
01:40:41,900 --> 01:40:45,900
We have been able to establish
that the burnt fragments-

1044
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:50,000
- probably comes from a human,
probably a young person.

1045
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:54,300
I completely stand behind mine
colleague Professor Helmer in the case.

1046
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:10,100
- Can we take a break soon?
- Very soon.

1047
01:41:10,900 --> 01:41:14,700
One thing, Sture, like me
have been thinking about for a long time...

1048
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,700
what did you do
on your leave in Stockholm?

1049
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:20,900
I went to KB.

1050
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:24,000
Excuse me.
Do you know where the microfilm room is?

1051
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:28,500
The Royal Library in Stockholm.
And cranked microfilm.

1052
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:35,000
- If...?
- The murder of Thomas Blomgren of course.

1053
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:40,700
Before that, I was able to strengthen
my own story.

1054
01:41:40,900 --> 01:41:44,500
By finding photographs
at the outhouse where Thomas was murdered-

1055
01:41:44,700 --> 01:41:47,800
- could I draw them
and appeared trustworthy.

1056
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,100
It was prescribed and safe
and so I could get more benzo.

1057
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:53,600
- Please.
- Thank you.

1058
01:41:53,700 --> 01:41:57,100
I'm actually thinking
to change name.

1059
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,200
Change name?

1060
01:42:00,100 --> 01:42:02,800
Quick. What do you say about that?

1061
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,500
- It was my mother's maiden name.
- Steer... Quick.

1062
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,800
No, no. Thomas Quick.

1063
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,100
Thomas? As your first victim?

1064
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,400
In the Zelmanovitz case
after all, it was a hunter-

1065
01:42:20,500 --> 01:42:25,800
- who found the remains of the body.
But how could you show the police there?

1066
01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:32,400
I couldn't, but it was
Sven-�ke Christianson as...

1067
01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:36,500
- We trained here at Seater.
- Trained? How did you train?

1068
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:41,600
Nine, ten, eleven. Stop!
And then you turn to the left.

1069
01:42:42,500 --> 01:42:47,500
Good. Know too
that you carry Charles' body.

1070
01:42:47,700 --> 01:42:50,200
One, two, three-

1071
01:42:50,300 --> 01:42:53,400
-four, five, six...

1072
01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:56,000
As I understand it, Sture-

1073
01:42:56,100 --> 01:43:00,200
- so you had an alibi
for the Johan Asplund case.

1074
01:43:00,300 --> 01:43:05,100
- How did you get hold of that information?
- It was a very publicized case.

1075
01:43:05,300 --> 01:43:10,200
In November 1980, Elva�rige disappeared
Johan Asplund from this house.

1076
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,400
During another leave
I fixed a map of Sundsvall.

1077
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:18,800
Then I also got to take part
the pre-trial investigation.

1078
01:43:18,900 --> 01:43:22,100
How could you know anything about the clothes?

1079
01:43:22,300 --> 01:43:26,400
It was from a book
as I read about the case.

1080
01:43:26,500 --> 01:43:30,500
Which I actually got off
a journalist from Dala-Demokraten.

1081
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,200
Old man Jan?

1082
01:43:34,300 --> 01:43:38,100
- Old man Jan Stigson?
- That was his name.

1083
01:43:40,300 --> 01:43:44,300
Lars, we break there.
Give us two minutes, please.

1084
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:58,000
What were you thinking, Sture, when the police
did it empty that lake in norway?

1085
01:43:58,100 --> 01:44:02,200
I didn't think much. Me
wanted to give the police something to work with.

1086
01:44:02,300 --> 01:44:04,900
They hadn't found anything.

1087
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,800
And if they had to empty a sea
so maybe they would be happy.

1088
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:12,500
- Were they happy then?
- If they were, they were very happy.

1089
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,400
After all, they emptied the lake twice.

1090
01:44:15,500 --> 01:44:20,500
That turned out to be one of the most costly
the police operations in the Nordics now.

1091
01:44:20,700 --> 01:44:24,800
They pumped up 35 million liters
water and filtered it.

1092
01:44:25,700 --> 01:44:30,700
They came down to 10,000 years old
deposits down in the bottom sediment.

1093
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:35,000
But they found nothing and that's it
I simply had to blame the

1094
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,300
- that the reason was
conscious deviations.

1095
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:42,100
And said that
that I had set Therese on fire.

1096
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:48,200
D� found van der Kwast
suddenly nothing.

1097
01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:54,200
I can tell you that technicians found
bone fragments from that very place-

1098
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,100
-as Thomas Quick pointed out.

1099
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:04,800
There was joy everywhere here at S�ter
and I was given a lot of medication.

1100
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:09,200
And how do you explain
those burnt pieces of bone there?

1101
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,300
Yes, I can't.

1102
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,100
No.

1103
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:34,200
Sture, your new lawyer is great.
He is really good.

1104
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,600
He has submitted
a riser now.

1105
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,400
- No one knows how things are going with it.
- That's great!

1106
01:45:42,500 --> 01:45:47,800
I am so incredibly grateful.
I want you to help him.

1107
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,800
One more thing, Sture. I'm sick.

1108
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:56,500
I have cancer.
In the pancreas, so...

1109
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:05,200
So you and I simply get along
hope for the best.

1110
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:13,000
But... what are you saying?

1111
01:46:43,900 --> 01:46:46,700
I wrote a letter
to Thomas Quick.

1112
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,700
Even though he didn't speak
with journalists for several years.

1113
01:46:50,900 --> 01:46:54,700
How can that happen
that you during the investigation period-

1114
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:58,600
- allows Quick release
and leave-

1115
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:02,100
- even though he was suspected
for the murder of several young boys?

1116
01:47:02,300 --> 01:47:05,200
Of course you can't think
that it is understandable.

1117
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,300
But the question is at the bottom
if it is correct.

1118
01:47:09,500 --> 01:47:14,100
Are there no other aspects of
the subject? It is what it is.

1119
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,700
Do you remember that you were interested in-

1120
01:47:20,900 --> 01:47:24,400
- what Sture Bergwall did
on their leaves?

1121
01:47:24,500 --> 01:47:26,200
I don't remember that.

1122
01:47:26,300 --> 01:47:30,200
If I say he sat
at a library in Stockholm.

1123
01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:34,300
- In the newspaper department.
- Yeah. And read what?

1124
01:47:34,500 --> 01:47:37,400
About Thomas Blomgren, among other things.

1125
01:47:38,500 --> 01:47:42,800
He sat there and read himself
on the murder of Thomas Blomgren.

1126
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:52,500
It is the case that Sture Bergwall has
retracted his confessions.

1127
01:47:52,700 --> 01:47:55,300
Yes. There before he wants to do it then.

1128
01:47:59,500 --> 01:48:03,800
It was surprising news
for me.

1129
01:48:05,300 --> 01:48:09,000
- He wouldn't have done anything?
- No.

1130
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:12,500
Whoever can prove it
has found the world's biggest scoop-

1131
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,600
- whatever it is
to manipulate justice.

1132
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:20,200
It goes without saying, I say
trembling in the voice, to see it is not.

1133
01:48:20,300 --> 01:48:23,000
Now it's 2008. He's sitting there.

1134
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:28,000
He will never be let out, regardless
whether he requests travel or not.

1135
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:34,400
I haven't started anything from
the murders I am convicted of.

1136
01:48:34,500 --> 01:48:38,500
And not a few
of all the others I recognized either.

1137
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,600
That's the way it is.

1138
01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:09,900
Thomas Quick,
one of our worst mass murderers-

1139
01:49:10,100 --> 01:49:13,000
- or maybe
one of our biggest court scandals.

1140
01:49:13,100 --> 01:49:16,900
It is not determined at all
that it was a court scandal.

1141
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:22,200
It is the prelude to the biggest one
the scandal in Swedish legal history.

1142
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:26,800
Eight wrongful murder convictions.
It is unique in our legal history.

1143
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:35,900
- What comment do you have?
- Is it a court scandal, Christer?

1144
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:39,200
Did you know that Bergwall
took back his confessions?

1145
01:49:39,300 --> 01:49:43,100
Me, like everyone else, said Hannes
R�stam's documentary last night.

1146
01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:47,300
And as Chief Complainant
in the Quick investigation I have to say-

1147
01:49:47,500 --> 01:49:50,800
- that it is... skillfully made.

1148
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,500
But that it doesn't steal
tells the truth.

1149
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:02,000
Thomas Quick, nowadays Sture Bergwall-

1150
01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:04,600
- Not wrongfully convicted.

1151
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:09,300
No legal scandal has occurred.
The evidence against Bergwall is solid.

1152
01:50:09,500 --> 01:50:14,100
It is enough to point to the remains,
the bone pieces after Therese Johannessen.

1153
01:50:14,300 --> 01:50:18,300
That medical expertise, not me-

1154
01:50:18,500 --> 01:50:23,000
- determined beyond all else
reasonable doubt that they are genuine.

1155
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:31,200
Time wants to prove me right.
Thank you so much. Thanks.

1156
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,200
- Stone, scissors, p�se.
- Stone, scissors, p�se.

1157
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,000
Rock, scissors, p�se.

1158
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,700
- Stone, scissors, p�se.
- Stone, scissors, p�se. N�men!

1159
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:04,400
- Stone, scissors, p�se.
- Stone, scissors, p�se. One last time.

1160
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:08,100
- Stone, scissors, p�se.
- Stone, scissors, p�se.

1161
01:51:11,300 --> 01:51:14,000
Molly's father is also dead.

1162
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,600
Although she only notices it on Saturdays.

1163
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:26,600
So... Now I'm not done
really dead, right?

1164
01:51:27,500 --> 01:51:30,100
They used to be with each other.

1165
01:51:30,300 --> 01:51:33,900
They watched movies and ate candy
and drank soda.

1166
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,500
But now that doesn't happen anymore.

1167
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:46,600
But, you... Molly might be able to do it
with his mother instead.

1168
01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:51,500
She is tough.

1169
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:53,600
Not like you, Mom.

1170
01:51:55,300 --> 01:51:58,500
Ouch. Yes, it's not easy there.

1171
01:52:19,100 --> 01:52:21,200
Hello, it's Jenny.

1172
01:52:23,500 --> 01:52:25,200
When do you?

1173
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:35,000
The experts who said
that these were bones from a child-

1174
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:38,700
-could only have looked and guessed.

1175
01:52:41,900 --> 01:52:43,600
What is that?

1176
01:53:12,500 --> 01:53:16,400
- How's it going?
- I think they win.

1177
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,900
Good work.

1178
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:57,000
And how do you feel?

1179
01:53:59,500 --> 01:54:01,600
Today I feel good.

1180
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:07,600
Are you working on something exciting?

1181
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:13,300
- It's quite clear.
- Before I read?

1182
01:54:15,300 --> 01:54:18,500
You can read when I'm done.

1183
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,200
You must hurry.

1184
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:49,600
I see the candles burn out

1185
01:54:53,300 --> 01:54:58,700
I see how every life ends

1186
01:55:02,500 --> 01:55:06,000
the radiant flares

1187
01:55:07,500 --> 01:55:10,800
that shone for us

1188
01:55:12,300 --> 01:55:14,800
running out

1189
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:18,500
they all burn out

1190
01:55:21,900 --> 01:55:27,700
I see life slipping away

1191
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:37,000
how time is always too short

1192
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:44,500
the endless path

1193
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:49,500
which would become my life

1194
01:55:50,700 --> 01:55:53,000
running out

1195
01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:56,900
will also reach its end

1196
01:57:41,500 --> 01:57:44,700
- Thank you, Annette.
- Good luck now.

1197
01:57:45,500 --> 01:57:48,100
- Hello.
- Hello. And your name is...?

1198
01:57:48,300 --> 01:57:50,600
- Conrad.
- With C or K?

1199
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,100
- C, thank you.
- With C.

1200
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:58,200
Yes, come on, little old man. Yes.

1201
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,200
No, Seppo, not there.

1202
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:54,400
Text: Thomas Jansson
Scandinavian Text Service 2019

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02:05:55,305 --> 02:06:55,402
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