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[birds twittering]
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[chopper whirring]
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[indistinct chatter]
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[somber tune]
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[man 1, in French]
Some people put wood here...
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to prevent cars from passing.
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[indistinct chattering]
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[man1, in French] Every time you crossed
the road block, you had to--
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you had to show your ID card...
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to see if you were Hutu or Tutsi.
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[somber tune continues]
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[man 1, in French] They had machetes.
There were rifles, clubs.
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Many things.
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If you were a Hutu, you were free to go.
You could pass and go wherever you wanted.
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But if you were a Tutsi...
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-[in Rwanda-Rundi] Your ID!
-I am not a Tutsi!
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[man 1] You were in trouble.
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[in Rwanda-Rundi] Did you see your nose?
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[in Rwanda-Rundi] She's a Tutsi warrior!
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[in Rwanda-Rundi] You want to die?
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Bring the papers! Kill her!
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[man 1, in French] They killed my mother,
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my two older brothers,
my younger brother, and my sister.
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[newscaster] Rwanda is a country
that was torn apart by hate
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and now lives with a legacy of genocide.
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It began when members of the Hutu tribe
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began slaughtering members
of the minority Tutsi tribe.
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[man 1, in French]
The machetes were bought...
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by Kabuga. We all know that.
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Of course, everyone knows it.
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[sinister tune]
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[car honking]
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[chanting, in Rwanda-Rundi]
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[woman crying]
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Félicien Kabuga is responsible directly
for the arming of people who killed
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over 800,000 people.
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[in French]
Félicien Kabuga financed the genocide.
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Nothing could have been possible
without money.
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[click]
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[in Rwanda-Rundi] I hope God will help us
to exterminate them,
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and to organize ourselves
to exterminate this bad race.
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[click]
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It's the-- the men
often behind the scenes,
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you know, those with--
with clean fingernails,
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who may not even need to raise their voice
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that-- that do the greatest evil.
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He's a business man, a smart man,
he knew who to pay off...
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who could help him with protection.
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[man 2] Félicien Kabuga is among
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five to about seven
of the world's most wanted people.
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Five million dollars on his head.
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[sirens wailing]
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[man 3, in French]
Félicien Kabuga is an exceptional figure
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both for cruelty and perversity.
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That's why I will never forgive myself
for his escape from us.
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[opening theme music]
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[ominous tune]
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[female narrator, in English] Félicien
Kabuga is an international fugitive
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wanted for his participation
in the murders
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of more than 800,000 Rwandans
during the 1994 genocide.
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The FBI searches for the suspected
financial backer of the atrocities.
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[gate clicks shut]
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[man 4] My name is Pierre Prosper.
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I put up a five million dollar reward
to find Félicien Kabuga.
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In 2001, I became the US Ambassador
at Large for war crimes issues.
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And we began
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to-- to formulate a plan
to go after these, uh...
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leaders and organizers
of the Rwandan genocide.
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His name just kept coming up
at the very top
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of the people wanted.
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Before that I was a US prosecutor.
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I was in a hard core gang unit.
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So I was used to seeing death
and destruction.
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But I was not prepared for...
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seeing the consequences of a genocide.
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[high-pitched ringing]
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[Prosper] When I walked into Rwanda
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I was shocked.
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I was shocked by the depth
of inhumanity that took place.
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This was hand-to-hand combat.
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And that individuals
were walking up to their victims,
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cutting their Achilles heel
so they couldn't run,
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and then chopping them up.
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[indistinct chattering, in Rwanda-Rundi]
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[Prosper] We realized that
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someone had to be behind this operation,
to finance.
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We learned that Kabuga very early on
was responsible
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for bringing in... machetes.
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[in Rwanda-Rundi]
Kabuga distributed weapons and ammunition.
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The militiamen were also given money,
uniforms...
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and they also had meetings...
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and all met directly in Kabuga's office.
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I even saw with my own eyes...
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machetes delivered in a truck...
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directly in his office in Muhima.
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And then, the murders began!
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The enemy was the Tutsis.
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[Prosper] There were reports
that machetes were being brought in
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in the hundreds of thousands.
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In our investigation
we were able to learn that Kabuga...
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was the one who was financing
the importing of these machetes.
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There were hundreds of thousand machetes
that were brought in all at once.
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We looked at the fact that the machetes
were then distributed to militia.
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In order to take the lives
of the Tutsi population.
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We could see Kabuga right at the top.
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Right after the genocide in 1994,
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you can imagine in a Rwanda context,
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when you had about one million people
killed in one hundred days,
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that many of the leaders decided to flee.
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And our goal was to go pursue them.
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But the perpetrators began to scatter
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all over the world.
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[man 3, in French]
The hunt for Kabuga starts in Switzerland.
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One day, I get a phone call from a member
of the Tutsi community in Switzerland...
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telling me that Félicien Kabuga...
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is in Switzerland with his family,
and that he has applied for asylum.
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[ominous tune]
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[man 5, in French] Back... back then,
it was a refugee registration center.
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Mr. Kabuga arrived here
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with two minibus cars,
with a lot of suitcases.
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So, an unusual way
to enter a refugee registration center.
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The others usually came
with a small backpack
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and they had nothing else.
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[in French] He arrives, most likely
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by quickly obtaining a visa
for Switzerland,
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because he had had one previously,
because he's also a rich man.
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[TV opening credits tune ]
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[newscaster, in French] Félicien Kabuga
arrived in Switzerland on July 22
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even though he was blacklisted by
the Federal Department of Foreign Affairs.
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Until the end of July,
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Félicien Kabuga seems to be spending
quiet days in Bern.
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He apparently stays in this hotel.
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[Pitteloud, in French]
I witnessed what happened in Rwanda,
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and it's been haunting me for years.
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For me,
it's the burned children that I saw.
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I still have nightmares
[scoffs] about them.
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I am, I must confess, horrified...
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horrified, that my country
could offer asylum
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to a genocidist.
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Given the special functions
that I had back then,
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I heard rumors.
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I heard rumors that Félicien Kabuga
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was about to be deported from Switzerland.
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So I called the director
of the Federal Office for Foreigners.
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And I remember telling him,
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"You can't let this war criminal leave."
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And then, a couple days later,
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I learned that Félicien Kabuga
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had boarded a plane in Geneva.
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I was overwhelmed with a feeling
of rage and powerlessness.
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FÉLICIEN KABUGA DEPORTED
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KABUGA CASE: OPEN INVESTIGATION
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[sinister tune]
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[in French]
He had his bank account here.
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It was a well credited account of course,
that of a millionaire.
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And he was given time
to completely empty his account.
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He left Switzerland with all his money.
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He even managed to leave with a ticket
paid for by Switzerland,
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with his whole family.
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This is unbelievable.
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[Pitteloud, in French]
It's a decision of political cowardice
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to say, "We are not going
to burden ourselves with a trial
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in violation of human rights
in a distant country."
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The easiest
is to put this gentleman on a plane.
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[thunderclaps]
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[suspenseful tune]
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[Ceppi, in French] At that moment, for me,
it is incomprehension, it's anger.
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For Switzerland,
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homeland of human rights,
which hosts the United Nations,
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to not anticipate this serious issue,
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at least for the sake of prevention,
keep Mr. Kabuga
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in Switzerland
in order to clarify the case,
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for me it is completely incomprehensible.
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Absolutely incomprehensible, still now.
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[thunder rumbling]
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[Prosper]
We were not ready for the genocide.
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And not ready for the aftermath
of the genocide.
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Mechanisms need to be put in place
to prevent
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movement of these perpetrators.
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Those mechanisms were not in place.
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So they were able to move about freely.
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[cars honking]
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[dramatic tune]
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[man, in French]
After leaving Switzerland,
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Kabuga left for Kinshasa.
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Kinshasa is certainly a big city,
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but with few international class hotels.
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There were just two back then.
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So, we thought we had one in two chances
to find the right one.
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And we decide to try to find him.
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We go to Intercontinental.
And I decided to go for it.
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I went to the reception and said,
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"We would like to talk
to Mr. Félicien Kabuga."
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The receptionist looks in her sheets
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and says, "It's this room, I'll call him."
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She calls, I introduce myself,
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journalist from Swiss Radio.
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He accepts, and we go up
to Félicien Kabuga's room.
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[elevator dings]
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[man speaking indistinctly, in French]
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[in French]
...to see a doctor or for business.
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But beyond that, he didn't know anyone.
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[Fontaine, in French]
He was with his family,
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so his children and wife
were in the other room.
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He was totally calm.
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He thought it was unfair
that he was deported
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since he followed the procedure
to seek asylum.
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[indistinct background conversation]
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[Fontaine] He decides to speak
in his own language,
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and his daughter translates.
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[in Rwanda-Rundi] Did they ask you
questions when you arrived in Geneva?
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[replies in Rwanda-Rundi]
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[Kabuga's Daughter, in French]
There was no particular question,
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the visa was valid.
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He entered as he would usually enter.
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[Fontaine, in French] Of course, he denied
any direct involvement in the genocide.
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He described himself as a businessman
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who invested
in different companies in Rwanda,
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including the Radio des Mille Collines.
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[in Rwanda-Rundi] I was just a shareholder
and I was not the only one.
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We invested in a simple commercial radio.
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We just wanted the radio
to be a success and be open to those
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who wanted to advertise on it.
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[Fontaine, in French]
By then, we already knew
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that Radio des Mille Collines
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was one of the main instigators
of the genocide.
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[click]
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[in Rwanda-Rundi] Tutsi-cockroaches
want to harm our daily lives!
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These people are very bad,
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their race is bad.
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[click]
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[speech on radio, in Rwanda-Rundi]
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[man, in French] Kabuga was one
of the founders and a major financier
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of Radio television
libre des Mille Collines...
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established in 1993.
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[click]
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[in Rwanda-Rundi] Dear audience,
it's RTLM! Kigali's free radio,
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which broadcasts on 106.94!
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[radio broadcast continues]
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[click]
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Without the radio,
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in my view, the genocide would have never
reached the magnitude
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that it actually did.
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They would not have been able to mobilize
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effectively an entire population
against a particular group.
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The radio was...
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probably the most powerful weapon
in the genocide.
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[ominous tune]
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[RTLM presenter 1, in Rwanda-Rundi]
Dear audience, it's RTLM!
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Kigali's free radio,
which broadcasts on 106.94!
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There's no Tutsi as rich as Kabuga!
So stop bragging!
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I'm not joking, you'll be exterminated.
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Let's organize to eliminate them all
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so that our children
and great grandchildren never ever hear
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about the thing we call "Tutsis".
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[click]
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[RTLM presenter 2, in Rwanda-Rundi]
As I often tell you,
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Tutsi cockroaches eat human flesh
and they are cannibals.
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[rewind, click]
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[RTLM presenter 2] Cockroaches resist!
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They are annoying
because we kill them over and over,
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we crush them,
but it's impossible to exterminate them!
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[click]
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[RTLM presenter 2, in French]
I had, it's true,
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a very strong voice against the Tutsis.
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We said that they are animals
that can kill you.
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The little children of the Tutsis...
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were also enemies.
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They will kill you once they grow up.
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At the time, we thought it was true.
I thought it was true.
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We knew...
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we knew very well
that it was Kabuga who was the big boss.
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I saw him all the time
because he came to the radio.
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I saw him several times... several times.
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He was the ideologue.
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If he had not been an ideologue,
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he couldn't have established this radio
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and given the line to follow.
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[dramatic tune]
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[Bizimana, in French] Félicien Kabuga
was the richest man in Rwanda.
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He was a very successful businessman
from the north of the country.
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[man 1, in Rwanda-Rundi]
Kabuga was so rich
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that when someone
in the neighborhood got rich,
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we called him a "Kabuga".
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He was comparable to a soccer star.
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When he passed,
everyone recognized his car.
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He was shining through.
But no one ever saw his face.
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[Prosper] So as he built that wealth,
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he also built
the political connections
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with all these various Hutu leaders.
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And began to support
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the extremist views
to annihilate and eliminate the Tutsis.
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[cars honking]
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[suspenseful tune]
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[man, in French] The increasingly frantic
hate speech on RTLM
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arouses the indignation of the Democrats.
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In particular, of the Minister
of Information, Faustin Rucogoza,
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who threatens to shut down RTLM.
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[Rucogoza, in Rwanda-Rundi]
News that fuels hatred...
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this news is not acceptable
and does not belong in this country.
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[in French] In the office of Rucogoza,
we will see
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Félicien Kabuga publicly
for the first time,
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since television is there and is able
to film this pathetic discussion.
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[in Rwanda-Rundi]
RTLM can not please everyone.
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Mister Minister,
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RTLM only tells the truth
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and only what is really happening.
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And it is for this reason
that we founded it,
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to enlighten the population.
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[Dupaquier, in French] This is the first
and, I believe, last time
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that he was publicly seen in a video
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as the great organizer
of the group of Hutu extremists.
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[Kabuga speaks indistinctly
in the background]
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[Dupaquier] So, no one will dare
to come and close RTLM.
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In the end,
Rucogoza is the one who will lose
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because he will be assassinated
with his wife and kids.
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[Rucogoza speaks indistinctly
in the background]
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[Dupaquier]
Because he opposed those people.
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[melancholic tune]
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[radio speaker, in Rwanda-Rundi]
Let's all sing together:
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♪ Come to rejoice with me my friends ♪
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♪ That Tutsis are exterminated! ♪
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♪ Come to rejoice with me my friends ♪
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♪ God is right! ♪
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[crows cawing]
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[Prosper] What we began to do is,
as the tracking team began to build,
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was set up several operations
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around the world.
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We were able to successfully
apprehend people in Cameroon
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and then we also learned that
there were people in Kenya.
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And featured among them was Kabuga.
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And we ultimately learned
that they were receiving some--
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some protection at that time.
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[racy tune]
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[Namu] Kenya was this... ground
where some of the business elite,
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the political elite, could come and...
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slip into the shadows, and it was fairly
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okay for a lot of genocidaires.
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[Prosper] With a lot of effort,
a lot of push,
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we were able to make several arrests.
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[newscaster, in French] Great success
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for the International Criminal Court
for Rwanda.
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After the arrest in Kenya, last week,
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of seven members
of the former Rwandan regime...
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[Namu, in English] Kabuga was arrested
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in a police station not too far away
from where we are sitting.
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[funky tune]
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[Namu] When he was arrested
and they were looking into the issue,
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a number of people
came out of the woodwork.
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Lawyers... government agents...
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who claimed that Kabuga
was the victim of political persecution.
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So he was arrested, then released.
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The explanation that the police officer
who released him said,
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was that, you know,
orders from above, basically.
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[tense tune]
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Kabuga was connected at the highest level
with the Kenyan government.
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So he was always
one step ahead of any operation.
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[tense tune continues]
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[Ceppi, in French]
Kabuga had the opportunity
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to stay in Kenya
because he had a lot of money.
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It was, back then,
an extremely corrupted country...
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where it was possible
to buy visas and to buy silence.
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Where you could buy anything
if you have money.
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[in English] If you look at the--
the registration documents...
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[click]
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[Namu] ...if you look
at the visa documents that, uh,
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Félicien Kabuga signed on behalf
of his family as well.
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Everything's very clear.
It looked like just another guy who's come
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and he has an interest
in setting up in Kenya.
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And used his name.
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And, fairly quickly, he was...
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also able to establish
an import-export company.
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He was able to move freely,
shop in, you know,
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some of Kenya's most expensive
shopping districts.
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He had houses in, you know, areas that
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a regular Kenyan
would not be able to afford to live in.
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So, he lived a quiet life,
but it was a comfortable life.
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[somber tune]
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So, we got to the point where...
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we launched a very aggressive
campaign in Kenya.
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[dramatic tune]
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[Prosper] We set up phone numbers,
hot-lines where people could call in...
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and provide us tips.
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And from there we would send out
a-- a-- the tracking team.
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When we launched the program,
Kabuga was our featured person.
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The idea was really quite simple.
If someone was able to give us information
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we could pay up to five million dollars.
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Those individuals who have been indicted
for serious violations
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of international humanitarian law
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that is, those most responsible
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and those most wanted
for the Rwandan genocide.
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[dramatic tune]
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[Prosper] We had a witness...
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that came forward
and provided information.
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He had seen Kabuga.
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And had actually had conversations
with Kabuga.
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We needed to test the information.
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So we had, uh, the FBI perform
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polygraph, lie detector tests.
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[whirring]
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[Prosper] The man passed the test.
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The FBI concluded
he was telling the truth.
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And so he was willing to help set up
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a sting operation
where we were going to arrest Kabuga.
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[suspenseful tune]
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[Namu] William Munuhe was a journalist
working for a local newspaper here,
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who had very good and close
links to government.
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So William Munuhe
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gets introduced to Félicien Kabuga.
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And once he realizes
who Félicien Kabuga is,
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he reaches out
to the Federal Bureau of Investigations.
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And he starts to hatch a plan
to get Félicien Kabuga arrested.
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[Munuhe's brother, in Rwanda-Rundi]
I'm William Munuhe's brother.
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He is the last born of the family.
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[baby wailing]
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[Munuhe's brother] Once, he told us that
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he had friends from America.
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He said that through his friends,
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he could raise
our living standards as a family.
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Because in our lives
we've been raised in poverty.
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Munuhe was a smart man.
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People of the government sometimes
asked him to hide Félicien Kabuga.
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And when Kabuga needed someone
to get a job done,
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they would ask Munuhe to do it.
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[Prosper, in English] But...
we do believe that there was a leak
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in the Kenyan security system...
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that, uh, alerted Kabuga's people
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of the identity of our informant.
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[paper rustling]
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[Mureithi in Rwanda-Rundi]
This is the letter. Munuhe narrates how
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he was kidnapped on a highway in Nairobi.
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[in English] "I was blindfolded
and locked in the car boot.
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I found the three men
seated together with Kabuga
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and the interrogation started.
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He criticized me for betraying him
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I was asked
about my relationship with America.
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I was taken to another room
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where electric shock was used."
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[in Rwanda-Rundi]
At that point, he says:
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[in English] "They took me back.
They took back my phones."
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[in Rwanda-Rundi]
That's how the letter ends.
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I think they had an agreement.
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Kabuga was supposed to come
to Munuhe's place
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to pay him so he would keep quiet.
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That's when Munuhe tipped off the FBI.
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And the FBI planned
on how they would arrest Kabuga.
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[sirens blaring]
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[sinister tune]
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[in English]
We set up a meeting that was confirmed,
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where Kabuga was going to go
to... this man's house.
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We were all set
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and we were waiting and waiting.
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And Kabuga never shows up.
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[dog barking]
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[Prosper] And we can't find our informant.
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He's not returning our calls.
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Someone went into his house...
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and found him... dead.
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[click]
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[Namu] The first time news
of William Munuhe's death emerged,
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fairly senior police officers at the time
claimed that he had died from suicide.
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[Mureithi, in Rwanda-Rundi]
This is my brother's death certificate.
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It's written:
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[in English] "Cause of death uncertain,
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pending full toxicology
due to carbon monoxide levels."
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[in English] But the evidence in the house
where his body was found, spoke
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a completely different story.
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[Mureithi, in Rwanda-Rundi] They struck
his throat with a sharp object.
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Blood spurted and splashed
from the ceiling to the closet.
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We even found blood in the sink
that they probably used to clean up.
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[Namu, in English] It looked
as if William Munuhe had been murdered.
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But Kenyan authorities always denied...
that...
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Félicien Kabuga
was involved in his murder.
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[Prosper] We know
that Kabuga was a killer.
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Kabuga had no problems
with killing in Rwanda.
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So killing an informant
was very easy for-- for Kabuga.
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[sighing] You know...
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It was one of those days where...
you just feel terrible.
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And you feel mad
and angry at the same time.
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He was about to be arrested. We had him...
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cornered.
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But there was someone in the-- the
Kenyan services that got the information,
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gave it to Kabuga, and... sold us out.
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After William was killed,
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the information began to dry up.
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The tips stopped coming in.
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Because people now know...
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that uh... Kabuga... is a killer.
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And is serious.
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And that if you bring information,
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they are going to come after you.
492
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,960
Then uh... he moved on somewhere.
493
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,600
[indistinct in-flight announcement]
494
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:51,440
[Prosper] And we just could not get
a good grasp of-- of where he went to.
495
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520
[racy tune]
496
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,680
[Prosper] Maybe he went back to the Congo.
497
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:02,080
We had information at one point that
he spent some time in the Seychelles.
498
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,560
[Bizimana, in French] It is even said
that he went through a body transformation
499
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,400
in order to hide himself.
500
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,040
That he could have traveled
to countries in Asia,
501
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,400
in Europe, with fake passports.
502
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,320
[racy tune continues]
503
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,800
[Prosper, in English] Kabuga, with his
wealth and his willingness to kill,
504
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520
has been able to remain at large.
505
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,760
[Dupaquier, in French] Kabuga was wanted.
He was the most wanted man,
506
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,760
but a lot of others were wanted, namely
507
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,080
his son-in-law, Ngirabatware, who played
a terrible part during the genocide.
508
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,720
They located him in Germany.
509
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,080
The process was obviously
to alert the German police,
510
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,560
the only ones able
to operate on German soil.
511
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,240
[Rapp, in English] What happened in 2007
512
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,720
is that the effort
to arrest his son-in-law
513
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,120
finally succeeds in Germany.
514
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,760
RWANDAN GENOCIDIST ARRESTED IN FRANKFURT
515
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,120
A FORMER MINISTER ARRESTED
516
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,120
[Rapp] At the time he's arrested,
517
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,360
he's actually at an Internet cafe
518
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,400
and he's communicating
on a rented computer.
519
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Uh--
and he also has with him a thumb drive,
520
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,000
a memory stick that's in that computer,
and when he's arrested,
521
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,400
he pulls out the memory stick and attempts
to stomp on it and destroy it.
522
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,600
[in French] Some German policemen
found the debris from this USB drive and
523
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,000
sent it for expertise.
524
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,000
When they managed to recover
some of the data from this USB drive,
525
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,640
they saw that there was an invoice
for the hospitalization of a Tanzanian.
526
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:26,280
This document was a piece of paper
with the photo ID of a Tanzanian,
527
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,400
and the photo was clear.
528
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,600
It was indeed Félicien Kabuga,
529
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,640
who had been smuggled into Germany
on a fake passport.
530
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,440
[Rapp, in English]
That then leads them to understand
531
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,360
that Kabuga has been there.
532
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,680
There's no question, you know,
that he was in Germany at that time.
533
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,760
And so there's a lot of efforts to try
534
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,400
to locate him in Germany,
and elsewhere in Europe.
535
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,920
Which, frankly, don't yield
536
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,280
any solid, uh, information
about his whereabouts.
537
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,920
[suspenseful tune]
538
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,000
[Dupaquier, in French] Félicien Kabuga
did not wait to be identified.
539
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,200
He disappeared again.
It was a monumental failure.
540
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,760
[Prosper, in English] We continued to try
to find Kabuga.
541
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,080
But it became tougher and tougher
to get real, actionable
542
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,320
information or intelligence
on-- on Kabuga.
543
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,280
[church bells tolling]
544
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,280
[Rapp] He may be, you know, in some...
545
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,720
in some villa in France,
being, you know, taken care of by a nurse.
546
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,720
But they're never answering the door.
547
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,640
[church bells tolling]
548
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,200
[Dupaquier, in French]
The genocide organization is,
549
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,400
in some ways, like the mafia.
550
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,680
And you know
that when a mafia member is buried,
551
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,760
all mafia members go to the procession.
552
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,840
I learned one day
553
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,480
that a friend of Félicien Kabuga's
had passed away...
554
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,480
and that he was about to be buried
in the Paris region.
555
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,640
Here is Jean Bosco Barayagwiza's grave.
556
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,720
This is where I hoped Félicien Kabuga,
the genocide's financier, would come...
557
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,560
since he was a great friend
of Jean Bosco Barayagwiza's.
558
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,240
-Both of them were at RTLM.
-[indistinct background speech]
559
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,080
[click]
560
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,480
[suspenseful tune]
561
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,320
[in French] I was here, not very far,
with a cameraman friend,
562
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,800
to film Kabuga's arrest.
563
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,840
Two policemen hid
in the gatehouse you see here,
564
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,760
at the end of the cemetery,
which is used to store tools.
565
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,080
And they were waiting for my signal
to get closer and arrest Kabuga.
566
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,760
There were employees
of the Public Gardening Services,
567
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,760
who were pretending to plant flowers.
568
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
There were two trucks
and it was planned that,
569
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,240
if Kabuga was spotted,
to prevent him from escaping
570
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,720
at my signal, one truck
would block the street
571
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,240
and another would block a little
further up. He had no way to escape.
572
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,200
The procession of Rwandans
approach the grave here,
573
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,240
and when the procession is leaving...
574
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,280
I'm still waiting for Kabuga's arrival,
575
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,840
because I saw that
he was not in the procession.
576
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,200
I see that there is Dr. Eugene Rwamucyo,
577
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,000
who is wanted
by an international arrest warrant,
578
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,800
who is there and I say to myself:
"At least, let's arrest that one."
579
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,040
[in French] You are coming with us.
580
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,880
-[in French] Now?
-Give me your hands, please.
581
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,040
[Dupaquier, in French] That's how I failed
to arrest Félicien Kabuga
582
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,280
but managed to arrest Dr. Eugene Rwamucyo.
583
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,360
-[in French] Call my lawyer, Mr. Boulain.
-[in French] Let's go, sir.
584
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,440
[indistinct dialog in French]
585
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,160
[in French] What's going on?
586
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,800
[in French] It's too tight, please.
587
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,880
-[in French] Move, sir.
-[in French] Thank you.
588
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:16,080
[click]
589
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,120
[click]
590
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,800
[ominous tune]
591
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,880
[in French] Those who have been arrested
and put in jail are the little people.
592
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,880
Kabuga and the authorities
who planned the genocide...
593
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,120
Many have never been arrested.
594
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,680
They are hiding.
595
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,160
[in French]
I'm pretty sure that Kabuga is in Kenya.
596
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,800
[in English] The last I heard,
he had popped up somewhere in Belgium.
597
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,000
How he had been able
to make it to Europe, I'm not sure.
598
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,520
[Ceppi, in French]
Just like the victims of the Holocaust
599
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640
have never given up,
600
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:19,160
have never stopped hunting down
the perpetrators of the Holocaust,
601
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:23,320
I think we must never stop hunting down
people like Félicien Kabuga.
602
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,680
[Prosper, in English] I would have loved
603
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,600
to have gotten, uh... Kabuga.
604
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,280
But I have found that time
catches up with-- with everyone.
605
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,080
And we will...
606
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,800
find out where Kabuga is, dead or alive,
607
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,280
at some point in time.
608
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,400
[footsteps]
609
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,120
[somber music]
610
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,880
[traffic humming]
611
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,240
[man, in French] In the beginning of 2020,
we received information from the English
612
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,600
that one of his daughters was in the area.
613
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,040
She often came to the country,
and notably to Asnières.
614
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,440
[Emeraux, in French] The other members
of the family, who were being tapped,
615
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,160
also came to Asnières.
616
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,000
[man on phone, in English] Yep, well,
I hope this isn't a recorded line.
617
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,120
All right.
618
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,000
[in French] We thought there was something
special about this city.
619
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,360
[Emeraux, in French]
We decided to speed things up.
620
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,160
[dramatic music]
621
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,480
A meeting was set for Saturday at 6 a.m.
622
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,320
And when we arrived outside the apartment
623
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,240
we went through the basement
624
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,600
to go up the stairs discreetly, of course.
625
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Once we were in front
of the apartment door,
626
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,680
everyone got into position.
627
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,440
And it was time.
628
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,480
[somber music]
629
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,040
[in English] After decades on the run,
one of the world's most wanted
630
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,480
fugitives has been captured.
631
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,600
Félicien Kabuga is finally
in custody this evening,
632
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,480
after French police raided a flat in Paris
in the early hours of this morning.
633
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,640
[in French] The man was living
under a false identity
634
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:27,560
in Asnières-sur-Seine, near Paris.
635
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,840
The result of a long investigation
by French police.
636
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,560
[Emeraux, in French] He acknowledged
that he was indeed Félicien Kabuga.
637
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,480
I thought it was a historic day
because it was the end of his run.
638
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,240
[male narrator, in English]
His arrest is a reminder
639
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,160
that those responsible for genocide
640
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,840
can be brought to account,
even 26 years after their crimes.
641
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,880
[somber music]
642
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,640
[latch clicks shut]