1 00:00:01,468 --> 00:00:03,469 - Another body at Yates' burial ground. 2 00:00:03,471 --> 00:00:05,437 - Someone committed this horrific crime 3 00:00:05,439 --> 00:00:07,806 to piggyback it onto crimes I've been accused of. 4 00:00:07,808 --> 00:00:08,941 - You know who the killer is. 5 00:00:08,943 --> 00:00:10,576 - Dr. Carl Rudnick. 6 00:00:10,578 --> 00:00:12,811 - Accusing the Deputy Chief ME of rape and murder? 7 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:14,780 - Oh, you can't think that I had anything to do with this. 8 00:00:14,782 --> 00:00:17,583 - Carl Rudnick, you're under arrest. 9 00:00:17,585 --> 00:00:19,618 - Something happened to Susie. 10 00:00:19,620 --> 00:00:21,353 She was supposed to call this morning. 11 00:00:21,355 --> 00:00:23,055 Rudnick's still in custody, isn't he? 12 00:00:23,057 --> 00:00:25,057 - No, he made bail last night. 13 00:00:25,059 --> 00:00:29,361 - We're not sure it's Susie. 14 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:30,763 - We are now. 15 00:00:37,604 --> 00:00:39,571 male announcer: In the criminal justice system, 16 00:00:39,573 --> 00:00:43,075 sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. 17 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:45,411 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 18 00:00:45,413 --> 00:00:47,413 who investigate these vicious felonies 19 00:00:47,415 --> 00:00:48,914 are members of an elite squad 20 00:00:48,916 --> 00:00:50,916 known as the Special Victims Unit. 21 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,419 These are their stories. 22 00:00:54,554 --> 00:00:56,321 - What the hell is going on here? 23 00:00:56,323 --> 00:00:57,623 - Exigent circumstances. 24 00:00:57,625 --> 00:00:59,024 - Oh, nice try. 25 00:00:59,026 --> 00:01:01,193 I don't hear anyone screaming for help. 26 00:01:01,195 --> 00:01:04,063 You have a warrant to search Dr. Rudnick's house? 27 00:01:04,065 --> 00:01:05,531 - We had one yesterday. 28 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:08,400 - And now you need a new one. - Really, Rita? 29 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:11,403 - We don't know that Dr. Rudnick was involved. 30 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:12,771 - Where's your client, Rita? 31 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,473 - I haven't heard from him. 32 00:01:14,475 --> 00:01:17,810 - He is the suspect in this murder, okay? 33 00:01:17,812 --> 00:01:20,079 You hear from him, you better let us know. 34 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:22,648 - The only legal obligation I have 35 00:01:22,650 --> 00:01:24,850 is to make sure that he shows up at trial. 36 00:01:24,852 --> 00:01:27,086 - Wow. You're claiming attorney-client privilege 37 00:01:27,088 --> 00:01:30,189 for a psychopath who's on the run, 38 00:01:30,191 --> 00:01:31,290 who gutted a woman. 39 00:01:31,292 --> 00:01:33,158 - I have no knowledge of that, 40 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,794 and I have no knowledge of any future acts he may commit. 41 00:01:35,796 --> 00:01:37,396 - His car is missing. 42 00:01:37,398 --> 00:01:38,897 He's not answering his telephone. 43 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:41,066 We need to search this house now. 44 00:01:41,068 --> 00:01:45,571 - And you can as soon as you get a warrant. 45 00:01:57,884 --> 00:01:59,885 - Fin's at Real Time checking traffic cams. 46 00:01:59,887 --> 00:02:01,587 Sarge is at Rudnick's town house. 47 00:02:01,589 --> 00:02:03,288 There's no sign of this guy. He's in the wind. 48 00:02:03,290 --> 00:02:06,191 - Yeah, well, he murdered and dismembered Susie Frain. 49 00:02:06,193 --> 00:02:07,426 I wouldn't have stuck around either. 50 00:02:07,428 --> 00:02:10,295 We're still missing a left leg. 51 00:02:11,698 --> 00:02:13,432 [camera shutter clicking] 52 00:02:17,036 --> 00:02:18,770 Ah, that's a calf. 53 00:02:18,772 --> 00:02:21,540 - Sawed off at the left knee, not a lot of blood. 54 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:24,576 - [gags, groans softly] 55 00:02:24,578 --> 00:02:26,445 - You guys got this, right? 56 00:02:26,447 --> 00:02:28,380 - [clears throat] Yeah, give me one second. 57 00:02:28,382 --> 00:02:29,648 Oh. [vomits] 58 00:02:29,650 --> 00:02:32,751 - Oh, easy. You all right? 59 00:02:32,753 --> 00:02:35,921 - Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine. 60 00:02:39,592 --> 00:02:42,361 I am going to drive us back, okay? 61 00:02:42,363 --> 00:02:45,264 [camera shutter clicking] 62 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:46,832 - 12 hours after Rudnick posts bail, 63 00:02:46,834 --> 00:02:48,534 a potential prosecution witness 64 00:02:48,536 --> 00:02:50,135 is found in pieces with the morning tide? 65 00:02:50,137 --> 00:02:51,970 - We're well aware of the problem. 66 00:02:51,972 --> 00:02:53,505 - Counselor. - Where the hell is he? 67 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:54,973 - This is all we know, okay? 68 00:02:54,975 --> 00:02:57,075 He was last seen posting bond at 8:00 p.m. last night. 69 00:02:57,077 --> 00:02:58,610 - Uber driver confirms dropping him off 70 00:02:58,612 --> 00:02:59,878 at his Harlem town house. 71 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,080 So, sometime between last night and this morning, 72 00:03:02,082 --> 00:03:03,682 he goes to Susie Frain's apartment, 73 00:03:03,684 --> 00:03:05,250 he dismembers her, he bags the body, 74 00:03:05,252 --> 00:03:06,585 dumps her in the water at Fort Tilden, 75 00:03:06,587 --> 00:03:07,719 and then he disappears. 76 00:03:07,721 --> 00:03:09,188 - We've got a BOLO out on his car, 77 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:10,455 his credit, his bank cards. 78 00:03:10,457 --> 00:03:11,690 So far, no hits. 79 00:03:11,692 --> 00:03:12,925 - No sightings, no traffic cams. 80 00:03:12,927 --> 00:03:14,359 Does everyone know he dresses in drag? 81 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:16,261 - We've alerted state troopers and the FBI. 82 00:03:16,263 --> 00:03:17,996 - Oh, they already know. 83 00:03:17,998 --> 00:03:19,898 The ME's office, the mayor's office, 84 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,100 the people in my office... [cell phone vibrating] 85 00:03:22,102 --> 00:03:23,669 People are falling over themselves to point fingers. 86 00:03:23,671 --> 00:03:25,137 - Okay, I get it. It's a mess, all right? 87 00:03:25,139 --> 00:03:27,873 No leave, no vacation, no-- 88 00:03:27,875 --> 00:03:30,576 - Yes, I'll hold for the governor. 89 00:03:30,578 --> 00:03:32,844 Find him. - Okay. 90 00:03:34,447 --> 00:03:36,114 - Wow. Somebody needs a vacation. 91 00:03:36,116 --> 00:03:37,883 - You can't blame him. 92 00:03:37,885 --> 00:03:40,018 I mean, the guy jumps bail, and then he kills our witness. 93 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:41,253 - Speaking of, 94 00:03:41,255 --> 00:03:43,355 we need to notify Yates that his fiancée is dead. 95 00:03:43,357 --> 00:03:45,123 - Look, that's not a priority right now. 96 00:03:45,125 --> 00:03:46,258 He'll find out on the news. 97 00:03:46,260 --> 00:03:48,994 - I know he will, but the photo, Sergeant, 98 00:03:48,996 --> 00:03:51,530 the photo that Rudnick sent to Susie pretending he was Lena-- 99 00:03:51,532 --> 00:03:54,433 CSU tore her house apart. They couldn't find it anywhere. 100 00:03:54,435 --> 00:03:56,001 - Yeah, of course they couldn't. 101 00:03:56,003 --> 00:03:57,869 That's why Rudnick went to her house in the first place. 102 00:03:57,871 --> 00:03:59,605 - So check her phone records. Find out if she called Rudnick. 103 00:03:59,607 --> 00:04:01,907 - What, do you think she was using that photo for blackmail? 104 00:04:01,909 --> 00:04:05,210 You know she did not come up with that idea on her own. 105 00:04:05,212 --> 00:04:06,912 - Which is why I need to talk to Yates. 106 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:08,680 You know he's more open when it's just the two of us. 107 00:04:08,682 --> 00:04:10,415 - Nice try, Rollins. 108 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:13,819 [telephones ringing in the background] 109 00:04:16,422 --> 00:04:18,323 - [sighs] Susie. 110 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:22,394 Can I see the body? 111 00:04:22,396 --> 00:04:24,930 - That's not going to be possible, Dr. Yates. 112 00:04:24,932 --> 00:04:27,065 - Are you sure it was her? 113 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:28,767 - We're sure. I'm sorry. 114 00:04:30,236 --> 00:04:32,404 - So we were hoping, uh, to talk to you 115 00:04:32,406 --> 00:04:35,707 about your last conversation with Susie Frain. 116 00:04:35,709 --> 00:04:37,843 - Yes, of course. 117 00:04:37,845 --> 00:04:39,778 How did Rudnick kill her? 118 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:41,313 - Still waiting on the autopsy. 119 00:04:42,448 --> 00:04:43,582 - You are? 120 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:46,718 Could you ask the ME to test her HCG levels? 121 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,086 - Excuse me? 122 00:04:48,088 --> 00:04:51,023 - I'd like to know whether Susie was pregnant. 123 00:04:51,025 --> 00:04:54,993 That afternoon in April before I was arrested, 124 00:04:54,995 --> 00:04:56,228 we made love. 125 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:58,997 I could sense that she was ovulating. 126 00:04:58,999 --> 00:05:01,233 When we had our conjugal, 127 00:05:01,235 --> 00:05:04,303 she agreed to take a pregnancy test. 128 00:05:06,406 --> 00:05:11,009 It's quite possible that I was going to be a father... 129 00:05:11,011 --> 00:05:13,245 and he took that from me. 130 00:05:22,588 --> 00:05:25,590 [dramatic music] 131 00:05:25,592 --> 00:05:33,665 ♪ 132 00:05:33,667 --> 00:06:11,470 - You got something? - Yeah, I got a hold of Fin. 133 00:06:11,472 --> 00:06:13,805 He and TARU have been going through Rudnick's computers, 134 00:06:13,807 --> 00:06:16,007 finances, flagging every credit card that they could find. 135 00:06:16,009 --> 00:06:17,175 - Okay, any hits? - Not yet. 136 00:06:17,177 --> 00:06:18,343 But they did find this. 137 00:06:18,345 --> 00:06:21,012 So Dr. Crazy's been wiring money from a trust 138 00:06:21,014 --> 00:06:22,347 to four different personal accounts 139 00:06:22,349 --> 00:06:23,782 under four different names. 140 00:06:23,784 --> 00:06:25,917 - So contact these people. - We're trying, Sarge. 141 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:28,153 But as of now, their only known addresses are PO boxes. 142 00:06:28,155 --> 00:06:30,322 I mean, we can't find any employers, phone listings. 143 00:06:30,324 --> 00:06:32,224 - Okay, so they're false fronts. 144 00:06:32,226 --> 00:06:34,159 - I just got something from the DMV. 145 00:06:34,161 --> 00:06:35,761 See that Terry Fish account up there? 146 00:06:35,763 --> 00:06:37,062 I just found a Teresa Fish 147 00:06:37,064 --> 00:06:39,164 that has an apartment in the same zip as that PO box. 148 00:06:39,166 --> 00:06:40,999 - Great. 149 00:06:41,001 --> 00:06:42,434 - Oh. 150 00:06:42,436 --> 00:06:43,602 Rudnick's a blonde now. 151 00:06:43,604 --> 00:06:47,038 - Teresa got her license in October of last year. 152 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,007 I'll put a BOLO out. - You know what? I'll do that. 153 00:06:49,009 --> 00:06:50,509 You two, get up to that apartment. 154 00:06:50,511 --> 00:06:53,378 If we get lucky, Rudnick may be hiding there. 155 00:06:56,916 --> 00:06:59,050 - Hey, you all right? 156 00:06:59,052 --> 00:07:01,219 - Why wouldn't I be? - I don't know. 157 00:07:01,221 --> 00:07:02,521 Usually, you're two steps ahead of me, 158 00:07:02,523 --> 00:07:04,389 and I've never seen you queasy at a crime scene before. 159 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:07,192 - Yeah, I had a bad bagel yesterday. 160 00:07:07,194 --> 00:07:08,593 I'm totally fine. 161 00:07:12,665 --> 00:07:15,667 - I wondered if something happened to poor Terry. 162 00:07:15,669 --> 00:07:19,404 I ain't seen her in a while here, maybe since April. 163 00:07:19,406 --> 00:07:21,907 Is she okay? We miss her around here. 164 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:23,675 - You know her? You talk to her much? 165 00:07:23,677 --> 00:07:25,143 - Is that a joke? 166 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:26,812 - Does it look like either of us are laughing? 167 00:07:26,814 --> 00:07:29,080 - It sounds like a joke. 168 00:07:29,082 --> 00:07:32,717 Terry's mute, deaf too. 169 00:07:32,719 --> 00:07:34,352 She used to write me little notes, you know, 170 00:07:34,354 --> 00:07:37,989 if she needed something, but never a complaint. 171 00:07:37,991 --> 00:07:41,259 She paid her rent a year in advance. 172 00:07:41,261 --> 00:07:44,496 [knock at door] Terry! 173 00:07:44,498 --> 00:07:46,498 Oh, what am I doing? 174 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:48,900 It's not like she can hear me. 175 00:08:08,054 --> 00:08:10,422 - You lay this new floor in here? 176 00:08:10,424 --> 00:08:12,057 - I told you she was a good tenant. 177 00:08:12,059 --> 00:08:13,825 She must have put that in herself. 178 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:15,193 - Right. 179 00:08:34,814 --> 00:08:37,115 Carisi. 180 00:08:37,117 --> 00:08:39,317 - Hey, I found more wigs and floral print dresses, 181 00:08:39,319 --> 00:08:40,852 lots of them. 182 00:08:40,854 --> 00:08:43,722 - It's red hair, just like Rachel Groves'. 183 00:08:43,724 --> 00:08:46,057 And these look like cutting marks to you? 184 00:08:46,059 --> 00:08:48,727 - Totally. I'll call CSU. 185 00:08:51,464 --> 00:08:53,798 - I got your message about Rudnick's aliases 186 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,867 so I rechecked his Jane Doe autopsies. 187 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:57,869 The last one was in October. 188 00:08:57,871 --> 00:09:01,306 50-year-old homeless woman found dead on the E train, 189 00:09:01,308 --> 00:09:02,707 listed as natural causes. 190 00:09:02,709 --> 00:09:04,976 - Never ID'd. 191 00:09:04,978 --> 00:09:09,014 - Rudnick's paperwork says "no match on fingerprints or DNA." 192 00:09:09,016 --> 00:09:10,815 But I got a print hit 193 00:09:10,817 --> 00:09:15,620 on a New York City food stamp application--Teresa Fish. 194 00:09:15,622 --> 00:09:18,857 - Rudnick wanted to make sure that nobody would miss her 195 00:09:18,859 --> 00:09:21,026 so he could steal her identity. 196 00:09:21,028 --> 00:09:24,029 - Identity thief, rapist, killer-- 197 00:09:24,031 --> 00:09:25,764 the damage he's done to this office, 198 00:09:25,766 --> 00:09:27,365 it makes me furious. 199 00:09:27,367 --> 00:09:28,867 - Not to mention they brought him up from Dade County 200 00:09:28,869 --> 00:09:31,002 instead of giving you that promotion. 201 00:09:31,004 --> 00:09:33,805 You know, you should reapply. 202 00:09:33,807 --> 00:09:37,442 - Before I do that, I need to rerun DNA and prints 203 00:09:37,444 --> 00:09:40,779 on every body he's ever sent to Potter's Field. 204 00:09:40,781 --> 00:09:42,881 - [sighs] 205 00:09:42,883 --> 00:09:45,517 Thank you, Melinda. 206 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:47,185 - You were right. 207 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:50,355 One can see pronounced gouges on this bottom layer. 208 00:09:50,357 --> 00:09:52,591 - Any guess on what the implement was? 209 00:09:52,593 --> 00:09:54,593 - I'd say it's a large, flat blade, 210 00:09:54,595 --> 00:09:57,362 maybe a cleaver. - Oh. 211 00:09:57,364 --> 00:10:02,100 - Aha, it's a pattern, white marks, strokes. 212 00:10:02,102 --> 00:10:04,536 - So he tried to wipe off the blood, maybe what, with bleach? 213 00:10:04,538 --> 00:10:07,572 - Yeah, but he didn't get it all, hence the glow. 214 00:10:12,812 --> 00:10:15,180 - [grunts] 215 00:10:15,182 --> 00:10:17,415 Okay. 216 00:10:21,487 --> 00:10:23,588 Dried blood. 217 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:26,024 - Quite apparent something barbarous happened here. 218 00:10:26,026 --> 00:10:27,292 - Yeah. 219 00:10:27,294 --> 00:10:28,660 - Hey, you up for a flight? 220 00:10:28,662 --> 00:10:30,962 - No, not really. - Tough luck. 221 00:10:30,964 --> 00:10:32,664 Our plane leaves in 40 minutes. 222 00:10:32,666 --> 00:10:34,699 Rudnick just got picked up in Syracuse for shoplifting. 223 00:10:34,701 --> 00:10:36,067 Take a look. 224 00:10:39,672 --> 00:10:41,673 - We ran the prints, but the system was down. 225 00:10:41,675 --> 00:10:43,141 By the time we got a match, he was gone. 226 00:10:43,143 --> 00:10:44,542 He said his flight was leaving in an hour. 227 00:10:44,544 --> 00:10:47,045 - So you let him walk? Great. 228 00:10:47,047 --> 00:10:48,947 - We thought we had a 50-year-old cross-dresser 229 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:51,650 near tears because his mother was dying in Canada. 230 00:10:51,652 --> 00:10:53,551 He stole a frickin' box of Coffee Nips. 231 00:10:53,553 --> 00:10:54,653 - All right, I get it. 232 00:10:54,655 --> 00:10:57,122 - We did give him a desk ticket. - Good for you! 233 00:10:57,124 --> 00:10:58,823 - Listen, Rollins, their system was down. 234 00:10:58,825 --> 00:11:01,059 He said his mother was dying. 235 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:02,861 All right, we've had a long day. 236 00:11:02,863 --> 00:11:04,362 - The good news is, no one with that name got on a plane, 237 00:11:04,364 --> 00:11:05,597 train, or rented a car. 238 00:11:05,599 --> 00:11:06,865 - Did you check his other aliases? 239 00:11:06,867 --> 00:11:08,500 'Cause he has at least four. 240 00:11:08,502 --> 00:11:10,168 - We did. Look, we got this entire town locked down. 241 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:12,404 He's not going anywhere. - Planes, trains, automobiles. 242 00:11:12,406 --> 00:11:13,672 Did you check buses? 243 00:11:13,674 --> 00:11:15,373 A Meta Bus left an hour ago for Buffalo. 244 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:16,775 He could walk to Canada from there. 245 00:11:16,777 --> 00:11:17,876 - Yeah. - What time does it arrive? 246 00:11:17,878 --> 00:11:19,144 - It just left Rochester. 247 00:11:19,146 --> 00:11:20,612 It's going to be there in two and a half hours. 248 00:11:20,614 --> 00:11:23,548 - We're going to need a squad car now. 249 00:11:26,485 --> 00:11:29,187 - Here comes our bus. 250 00:11:33,492 --> 00:11:35,226 - You're the detectives from New York? 251 00:11:35,228 --> 00:11:36,928 - Yeah. 252 00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:38,930 - Bob Hencamp, Buffalo PD. - Dominick Carisi. 253 00:11:38,932 --> 00:11:40,231 This is Detective Rollins. 254 00:11:40,233 --> 00:11:41,499 We call her Sunny. 255 00:11:41,501 --> 00:11:44,235 - Sunny Rollins? Okay. 256 00:11:44,237 --> 00:11:46,337 Troopers picked up the bus on I-90 an hour ago, 257 00:11:46,339 --> 00:11:47,939 followed at a discreet distance. 258 00:11:47,941 --> 00:11:49,307 - Well, he's still on board. 259 00:11:49,309 --> 00:11:51,776 - There was an E. Howard credit card purchase in Syracuse. 260 00:11:51,778 --> 00:11:54,212 Bus didn't make any stops between Rochester and here. 261 00:11:54,214 --> 00:11:55,914 - Okay, well, let's do this thing. 262 00:11:55,916 --> 00:11:58,683 Nice and easy, all right? We don't want to spook him. 263 00:12:02,054 --> 00:12:03,455 - Dr. Rudnick. 264 00:12:03,457 --> 00:12:05,290 - This is your guy? - I'm Ellie Howard, 265 00:12:05,292 --> 00:12:07,158 and I fully intend to pay my fine for shoplifting. 266 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,827 - Ms. Howard, stop. 267 00:12:08,829 --> 00:12:10,328 Why don't you come with us, all right? 268 00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:12,997 We'll sort this out. 269 00:12:12,999 --> 00:12:14,499 - Hands behind your back, please. 270 00:12:14,501 --> 00:12:16,267 - [sighs] Is that really necessary? 271 00:12:16,269 --> 00:12:18,903 - Let him do his job. 272 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,642 [handcuffs clicking] 273 00:12:24,644 --> 00:12:27,212 - All right, come on. 274 00:12:27,214 --> 00:12:33,818 - So you got a cross-dressing rapist, murderer 275 00:12:33,820 --> 00:12:35,653 in your ME's office. 276 00:12:35,655 --> 00:12:38,256 You guys down in New York City really are progressive. 277 00:12:38,258 --> 00:12:39,958 - Did he say anything? 278 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,326 - He bitched when we searched him. 279 00:12:41,328 --> 00:12:44,996 Maybe because he had a money belt with 64,000 in cash. 280 00:12:44,998 --> 00:12:46,664 - So why is he shoplifting Coffee Nips, then? 281 00:12:46,666 --> 00:12:50,335 - Well, that's the $64,000 question. 282 00:12:50,337 --> 00:12:52,737 Just give me a minute to finish paperwork, 283 00:12:52,739 --> 00:12:55,406 and he's all yours. 284 00:12:55,408 --> 00:12:57,442 - Do you have a cause of death? 285 00:12:57,444 --> 00:12:59,077 - Manner, homicide. 286 00:12:59,079 --> 00:13:01,479 No one ends up like this accidently, 287 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:03,948 Cause of death, exsanguination. 288 00:13:03,950 --> 00:13:05,517 - So she bled out when he cut her up. 289 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:08,887 - No, the dismemberment occurred post-mortem. 290 00:13:08,889 --> 00:13:11,556 The problem is I can't find the initial wound. 291 00:13:11,558 --> 00:13:14,192 Most likely trauma to the femoral vein or artery-- 292 00:13:14,194 --> 00:13:16,127 stab wound, maybe gunshot. 293 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:17,796 - To the missing left thigh? 294 00:13:17,798 --> 00:13:21,232 - I would guess that's why Rudnick made it disappear. 295 00:13:21,234 --> 00:13:22,967 There's something else. 296 00:13:22,969 --> 00:13:25,537 Susie's tox screen came back clean, 297 00:13:25,539 --> 00:13:28,006 but her HCG levels were high. 298 00:13:28,008 --> 00:13:29,574 She was pregnant. 299 00:13:35,147 --> 00:13:36,648 - We aren't actually going to drive 300 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:38,183 all the way back to Manhattan, are we? 301 00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:39,651 - Shut up. 302 00:13:39,653 --> 00:13:41,386 You took the bus up here anyway, right? 303 00:13:41,388 --> 00:13:43,888 - Yes, when I was traveling incognito. 304 00:13:43,890 --> 00:13:45,323 - What were you thinking, anyway, 305 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:47,158 skipping out on a $2 million bail? 306 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,326 - Well, what were they thinking? 307 00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:50,195 They charged me with two murders, then let me go. 308 00:13:50,197 --> 00:13:53,665 Who wouldn't run? [cell phone ringing] 309 00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:55,900 - Hey, Sarge. 310 00:13:55,902 --> 00:13:57,335 Yeah, we're making pretty good time, 311 00:13:57,337 --> 00:13:59,838 as long as we don't get pulled over. 312 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:00,905 We should be back around-- 313 00:14:00,907 --> 00:14:03,041 Wait. Hold on. Let me check my app. 314 00:14:03,043 --> 00:14:04,709 - Noon. - Wait. Hold on. 315 00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:06,044 - Noon. - Noon. 316 00:14:06,046 --> 00:14:08,346 All right, we'll be back around noon. 317 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:11,482 All right. Copy that. 318 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:14,686 They found his car. 319 00:14:14,688 --> 00:14:15,920 - Why are you whispering? 320 00:14:15,922 --> 00:14:17,355 Rudnick, they found your car. 321 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:20,625 - Well, give yourselves a gold star. 322 00:14:20,627 --> 00:14:23,228 - We sure it's Rudnick's? 323 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:24,963 - Plates and all identifiers are stripped, 324 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:26,297 but we got the VIN off the engine block. 325 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:27,866 - Okay, so why here? 326 00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:29,834 - The train to the plane is a block away. 327 00:14:29,836 --> 00:14:31,970 - Oh, so had we found this any earlier, 328 00:14:31,972 --> 00:14:33,404 we would have been searching JFK. 329 00:14:33,406 --> 00:14:35,773 - While he got across the border on his Meta Bus. 330 00:14:35,775 --> 00:14:38,543 He's not stupid, but he was in a rush. 331 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:39,878 He left blood. 332 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,013 Now, it's just a trace, 333 00:14:42,015 --> 00:14:44,249 but that's all I need. - Great. 334 00:14:44,251 --> 00:14:45,683 I'll call Barba. 335 00:14:45,685 --> 00:14:50,355 - A young man like yourself working at SVU. 336 00:14:50,357 --> 00:14:51,890 That has to be depressing. 337 00:14:51,892 --> 00:14:54,993 - You work in a morgue. - I find peace in that. 338 00:14:54,995 --> 00:14:56,594 I bring closure to people. 339 00:14:56,596 --> 00:14:58,730 - Yeah, when you're not killing them. 340 00:14:58,732 --> 00:15:01,366 - Death, in its way, is the ultimate closure. 341 00:15:01,368 --> 00:15:04,002 - Is that a confession? 342 00:15:04,004 --> 00:15:05,904 - Thanks. 343 00:15:08,674 --> 00:15:10,642 Sure you don't want something more substantial? 344 00:15:10,644 --> 00:15:12,110 - Mm, yes, I'm sure. 345 00:15:13,712 --> 00:15:15,346 Do you people think about what you eat? 346 00:15:15,348 --> 00:15:17,515 - Nope. - You should. 347 00:15:17,517 --> 00:15:19,017 All that cholesterol-- 348 00:15:19,019 --> 00:15:20,785 I could tell you both right now what your livers 349 00:15:20,787 --> 00:15:22,820 are going to look like when they're eventually on the slab. 350 00:15:22,822 --> 00:15:25,757 - You know what? Don't. 351 00:15:27,493 --> 00:15:30,662 - I don't mean to be a nuisance, but may I use the facilities? 352 00:15:32,498 --> 00:15:34,565 - [scoffs] 353 00:15:36,168 --> 00:15:37,635 - [sighs] 354 00:15:37,637 --> 00:15:40,104 - Whoa. Hey, it's still occupied. 355 00:15:40,106 --> 00:15:41,472 Hey, look, it's my uncle. 356 00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:44,575 I'll see if I can hurry him along, okay? 357 00:15:45,611 --> 00:15:48,479 - Well, This is unfortunate. 358 00:15:48,481 --> 00:15:52,150 They think I killed that woman and cut her up. 359 00:15:52,152 --> 00:15:55,453 I don't understand why. 360 00:15:55,455 --> 00:15:59,257 Of course, I do understand. It's still offensive. 361 00:15:59,259 --> 00:16:00,758 So are they. 362 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,827 [sighs] 363 00:16:02,829 --> 00:16:06,664 Quiet, Doctor, quiet. 364 00:16:06,666 --> 00:16:08,266 Good man. 365 00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:10,902 [toilet flushes] 366 00:16:12,838 --> 00:16:15,239 - Hey, Doc, come on, we got to go. 367 00:16:15,241 --> 00:16:17,008 - Oh. 368 00:16:17,010 --> 00:16:20,011 Could I trouble you for my phone? 369 00:16:20,013 --> 00:16:22,347 I need to call my lawyer. 370 00:16:22,349 --> 00:16:25,650 - Mr. Barba? - Uh-huh? 371 00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,485 [scoffs] 372 00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:30,154 Rita... 373 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:32,323 you have one hell of a client. 374 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:33,358 Kills a pregnant witness 375 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,193 and tries to cross the border in a dress. 376 00:16:35,195 --> 00:16:36,761 - Dr. Rudnick was out on bond. 377 00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:39,030 He was simply taking in the sights of Buffalo. 378 00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:41,265 - Uh-huh. 379 00:16:41,267 --> 00:16:44,202 We have a DNA match from Rachel Groves' hair 380 00:16:44,204 --> 00:16:47,872 and blood on the kitchen floor of an apartment that he leased. 381 00:16:47,874 --> 00:16:50,708 - He's an ME. He autopsied her body. 382 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:52,844 It could be cross-contamination. 383 00:16:52,846 --> 00:16:54,812 - Well, he didn't autopsy Susie Frain, 384 00:16:54,814 --> 00:16:56,381 and we found her blood in his car. 385 00:16:56,383 --> 00:16:57,982 - They were old friends. 386 00:16:57,984 --> 00:16:59,484 He gave her a ride. 387 00:16:59,486 --> 00:17:01,152 She bled from a paper cut. 388 00:17:01,154 --> 00:17:03,154 Both those cases were circumstantial, 389 00:17:03,156 --> 00:17:06,657 and don't get me started on a 13-year-old body in a wall. 390 00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:08,826 - So why are you here, Rita? 391 00:17:08,828 --> 00:17:11,496 - You have an ME accused of being a serial killer. 392 00:17:11,498 --> 00:17:15,967 The last thing your bosses want is a long, drawn-out trial. 393 00:17:15,969 --> 00:17:19,337 And these headlines-- how are your migraines? 394 00:17:26,178 --> 00:17:27,645 - Your solution is? 395 00:17:27,647 --> 00:17:31,315 - Dr. Rudnick pleads to one count of tampering with evidence 396 00:17:31,317 --> 00:17:34,652 and one count of unlawful disposal of a body. 397 00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:38,423 This goes away as quietly as possible. 398 00:17:38,425 --> 00:17:39,991 - Misdemeanors? 399 00:17:39,993 --> 00:17:43,661 He killed three women. 400 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:45,296 I can offer manslaughter, 401 00:17:45,298 --> 00:17:46,564 20 years on each, served concurrently. 402 00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:48,132 - A public defender can get as much. 403 00:17:48,134 --> 00:17:50,334 He is paying for more than that. 404 00:17:52,671 --> 00:17:54,172 - I hope there's enough money in the world, Rita. 405 00:17:54,174 --> 00:17:57,275 I really do. 406 00:17:57,277 --> 00:18:00,078 - You better hope you don't get a conviction, 407 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,646 because if you do, 408 00:18:01,648 --> 00:18:04,315 every case Dr. Rudnick touched will be subject to an appeal, 409 00:18:04,317 --> 00:18:06,317 starting with Greg Yates. 410 00:18:11,457 --> 00:18:14,158 - I was so worried... 411 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,862 about what might happen to Susie. 412 00:18:17,864 --> 00:18:19,297 She was always so trusting. 413 00:18:19,299 --> 00:18:22,667 She never saw the dark side of people. 414 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:24,335 - Like Dr. Rudnick. 415 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:31,909 What did she say to you when you last spoke? 416 00:18:31,911 --> 00:18:36,647 - She firmly believed that if she asked him, 417 00:18:36,649 --> 00:18:40,051 he would work to set me free in exchange for the photo. 418 00:18:40,053 --> 00:18:42,887 I knew she was walking into the lion's den, 419 00:18:42,889 --> 00:18:44,188 but she wouldn't listen. 420 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:45,590 I... 421 00:18:45,592 --> 00:18:48,759 I think she wanted me out to be there when she gave birth. 422 00:18:48,761 --> 00:18:50,628 - So she told you she was pregnant. 423 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:53,898 - No, she didn't need to. 424 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:55,766 I knew. 425 00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:59,270 She had a slightly different scent... 426 00:18:59,272 --> 00:19:01,672 like you do. 427 00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:06,344 How far along are you, Detective? 428 00:19:06,346 --> 00:19:47,885 - Ms. Calhoun, are you ready to proceed? 429 00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:49,654 - We are, Your Honor. - Mr. Barba. 430 00:19:49,656 --> 00:19:50,821 - Your Honor, in addition 431 00:19:50,823 --> 00:19:52,323 to the two standing charges of murder one, 432 00:19:52,325 --> 00:19:55,493 the defendant is now charged with the murder of Susie Frain. 433 00:19:55,495 --> 00:19:57,929 - Dr. Rudnick, how do you plead? 434 00:19:57,931 --> 00:19:59,730 - I apologize for being late, Your Honor. 435 00:19:59,732 --> 00:20:01,832 John Buchanan for the defense. 436 00:20:01,834 --> 00:20:03,301 My client pleads not guilty. 437 00:20:03,303 --> 00:20:05,036 - I know who you are, Counselor, 438 00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:07,371 but I'm not a fan of courtroom theatrics. 439 00:20:07,373 --> 00:20:09,473 What's going on here, Ms. Calhoun? 440 00:20:09,475 --> 00:20:13,244 - I just need a moment to confer with my client. 441 00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:15,213 - So he is still your client. 442 00:20:15,215 --> 00:20:17,281 - He is, Your Honor. Dr. Rudnick has retained us both. 443 00:20:17,283 --> 00:20:18,482 - You have? 444 00:20:18,484 --> 00:20:20,484 - Rita, the state saw fit to double down. 445 00:20:20,486 --> 00:20:22,286 I thought it prudent to do the same. 446 00:20:22,288 --> 00:20:24,088 Now, you both have my complete confidence. 447 00:20:24,090 --> 00:20:25,990 - May we proceed? 448 00:20:25,992 --> 00:20:27,525 People on bail. - Remand. 449 00:20:27,527 --> 00:20:29,794 While out on bail, the defendant murdered 450 00:20:29,796 --> 00:20:32,296 and dismembered a prosecution witness. 451 00:20:32,298 --> 00:20:33,631 - Another wild accusation. 452 00:20:33,633 --> 00:20:36,267 - More to the point, he is free to travel within the state. 453 00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:38,502 He has violated no court order. 454 00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:40,404 - That is absolutely correct. - Enough, Doctor. 455 00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:44,141 Your bail was a privilege that has just been revoked. 456 00:20:44,143 --> 00:20:45,977 You are remanded to Rikers. 457 00:20:45,979 --> 00:20:49,280 - In that case, I have a motion to separate these three charges. 458 00:20:49,282 --> 00:20:50,615 - As do I. 459 00:20:50,617 --> 00:20:53,351 - Coordinate, and I'll let the presiding judge 460 00:20:53,353 --> 00:20:54,585 know what he's in for. 461 00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:56,287 Good day. [gavel bangs] 462 00:21:01,059 --> 00:21:02,460 - Hey. 463 00:21:02,462 --> 00:21:03,628 Missed you in court. 464 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:06,464 - Yeah. - You look green. 465 00:21:06,466 --> 00:21:08,299 Have a ginger ale. 466 00:21:08,301 --> 00:21:10,134 [can rattles] 467 00:21:10,136 --> 00:21:12,003 - I'm good. 468 00:21:12,005 --> 00:21:13,771 [can opens] 469 00:21:13,773 --> 00:21:15,740 - So have you told anybody yet? 470 00:21:23,615 --> 00:21:25,516 - Nope. 471 00:21:28,453 --> 00:21:30,388 I just found out. 472 00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:35,960 And not that it's any of your business, 473 00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:37,662 but, you know, it's not Nick's, so... 474 00:21:37,664 --> 00:21:39,964 - Okay. 475 00:21:39,966 --> 00:21:41,465 What are you going to do? 476 00:21:41,467 --> 00:21:43,801 - I'm not going to do anything. 477 00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:46,637 - Well, you might want to tell the sarge. 478 00:21:52,611 --> 00:21:55,980 - Whiskey. Does that mean it's bad news? 479 00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:58,683 - [sighs] Rudnick's dream team just got their first win. 480 00:21:58,685 --> 00:21:59,984 The judge granted their motion 481 00:21:59,986 --> 00:22:01,385 to separate out the three charges. 482 00:22:01,387 --> 00:22:03,888 - How? There's a clear pattern. 483 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:05,690 - [sighs] Not really. 484 00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:08,159 The murders are spread out over 13 years, 485 00:22:08,161 --> 00:22:10,194 and the motives are arguably different. 486 00:22:10,196 --> 00:22:11,495 Lena was his fiancée. 487 00:22:11,497 --> 00:22:13,431 Susie was blackmailing him, 488 00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:15,866 and Rachel--she was just easy pickings, crime of opportunity. 489 00:22:15,868 --> 00:22:17,435 - Okay, I get it. So the judge thought 490 00:22:17,437 --> 00:22:18,869 that linking the three together would be 491 00:22:18,871 --> 00:22:21,972 more prejudicial than probative. - Prejudicial than probative. 492 00:22:21,974 --> 00:22:23,741 - Okay. 493 00:22:23,743 --> 00:22:25,076 So what do you need from me? 494 00:22:25,078 --> 00:22:28,546 - A thigh, to establish cause of death. 495 00:22:28,548 --> 00:22:30,247 Susie Frain is our strongest case. 496 00:22:30,249 --> 00:22:33,818 - The thigh is gone, but you don't need it. 497 00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:35,486 He cut her up, Barba. 498 00:22:35,488 --> 00:22:38,222 I don't care how good those lawyers think they are. 499 00:22:38,224 --> 00:22:41,392 When the jury sees what he did to that woman... 500 00:22:41,394 --> 00:22:43,361 he's done. 501 00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:48,199 - [sighs] 502 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:52,103 - Were you able to identify the victim? 503 00:22:52,105 --> 00:22:54,472 - Yes. In another bag we opened, 504 00:22:54,474 --> 00:22:58,342 we found the decapitated head of Susie Frain. 505 00:22:58,344 --> 00:23:00,544 It was... 506 00:23:00,546 --> 00:23:02,480 one of the most gruesome crime scenes 507 00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:03,781 that I've ever witnessed. 508 00:23:03,783 --> 00:23:05,416 - Objection. 509 00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:08,152 These injuries occurred after Ms. Frain's death. 510 00:23:08,154 --> 00:23:10,321 They have no bearing on the murder charge 511 00:23:10,323 --> 00:23:12,590 and serve only to prejudice this jury. 512 00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:14,158 - Overruled. 513 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,726 I'll allow up to a point, 514 00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:17,328 and I want to remind the jury 515 00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:19,163 that you're here to determine the facts of the murder 516 00:23:19,165 --> 00:23:22,800 and not what happened to the body post-mortem. 517 00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:26,637 - Sergeant Benson, the body on the beach was Susie Frain? 518 00:23:26,639 --> 00:23:28,539 - Yes, without a doubt. 519 00:23:28,541 --> 00:23:30,608 DNA links all the pieces. 520 00:23:30,610 --> 00:23:32,576 - Nothing further. 521 00:23:39,317 --> 00:23:41,152 - Good morning, Sergeant. 522 00:23:41,154 --> 00:23:42,987 When you first met Ms. Frain, 523 00:23:42,989 --> 00:23:45,756 it was in connection with another murder case, correct? 524 00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:47,158 - It was. 525 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,393 - The brutal kidnapping, rape, and murder 526 00:23:49,395 --> 00:23:54,064 of a Chicago PD employee by Ms. Frain's fiancée, Greg Yates. 527 00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:55,299 - Yes. 528 00:23:55,301 --> 00:23:57,067 - Did Ms. Frain 529 00:23:57,069 --> 00:24:00,571 maintain his innocence even after Dr. Yates' conviction? 530 00:24:00,573 --> 00:24:02,106 - Objection. Relevance. 531 00:24:02,108 --> 00:24:04,008 - Your Honor, I intend to show a direct line 532 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:08,779 between Ms. Frain's pathological desire to clear her fiancée 533 00:24:08,781 --> 00:24:11,282 and the events that led to her death. 534 00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:13,184 - I'll allow. 535 00:24:13,186 --> 00:24:16,787 - Did Ms. Frain ever become aware that Dr. Carl Rudnick 536 00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:19,723 was the Deputy Chief ME for Manhattan 537 00:24:19,725 --> 00:24:23,894 who had supervised the autopsies of Dr. Yates' victims? 538 00:24:23,896 --> 00:24:25,463 - Yes, and I know that it's your job 539 00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:27,031 to try to make a connection between the two-- 540 00:24:27,033 --> 00:24:30,067 - Well, so let me do my job. 541 00:24:30,069 --> 00:24:32,036 And after that, 542 00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:35,706 did you and ADA Barba 543 00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:37,541 helpfully arrange for a conjugal visit 544 00:24:37,543 --> 00:24:40,945 between Ms. Frain and Dr. Yates? 545 00:24:40,947 --> 00:24:42,713 - We did. 546 00:24:42,715 --> 00:24:46,317 - Once reunited, did they both spontaneously accuse Dr. Rudnick 547 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:47,551 of a series of crimes? 548 00:24:47,553 --> 00:24:48,853 - Yes, but there were also 549 00:24:48,855 --> 00:24:50,287 two other women who had been murdered. 550 00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:54,325 - So is it possible that they were colluding 551 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:58,195 to incriminate Dr. Rudnick in hopes of discrediting him 552 00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:01,966 and thus bolstering Yates' chance for an appeal. 553 00:25:01,968 --> 00:25:03,901 - Objection. Speculation. 554 00:25:03,903 --> 00:25:06,036 - Is it? 555 00:25:06,038 --> 00:25:08,339 Withdrawn. 556 00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:10,541 Nothing further. 557 00:25:10,543 --> 00:25:12,843 Thank you, Sergeant. 558 00:25:20,752 --> 00:25:22,119 - Susie Frain was cooperating 559 00:25:22,121 --> 00:25:24,288 with a separate investigation into Dr. Rudnick. 560 00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:25,723 - Objection, Your Honor. 561 00:25:25,725 --> 00:25:27,391 - This line goes directly to motive. 562 00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:30,461 - I'll allow but only in that context. 563 00:25:30,463 --> 00:25:32,196 - In what way was Ms. Frain cooperating? 564 00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:33,964 - She was searching for photos 565 00:25:33,966 --> 00:25:36,600 which we believed would provide evidence against Dr. Rudnick, 566 00:25:36,602 --> 00:25:37,735 but she was murdered 567 00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:39,470 before she had the chance to deliver them to us. 568 00:25:39,472 --> 00:25:43,040 - Did you find these photos in her home? 569 00:25:43,042 --> 00:25:45,609 - No, but as the crime-scene pictures show-- 570 00:25:45,611 --> 00:25:48,012 - People's exhibit 47A, 47B, Your Honor. 571 00:25:48,014 --> 00:25:50,247 - Objection. This is prejudicial. 572 00:25:50,249 --> 00:25:51,515 - It's a crime scene. 573 00:25:51,517 --> 00:25:54,285 - Agreed. Overruled. 574 00:25:54,287 --> 00:25:57,788 - So you can see her ransacked memento boxes, 575 00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,124 and we also later obtained security footage 576 00:26:00,126 --> 00:26:01,625 from her mini-storage facility. 577 00:26:01,627 --> 00:26:02,960 - People's exhibit 48A. 578 00:26:02,962 --> 00:26:04,762 - Where you can see the victim 579 00:26:04,764 --> 00:26:08,132 had retrieved those same boxes the day before she was murdered, 580 00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:09,934 so we believe whoever killed her 581 00:26:09,936 --> 00:26:11,535 took the incriminating photos with them. 582 00:26:11,537 --> 00:26:13,337 - Objection. Pure speculation. 583 00:26:13,339 --> 00:26:16,507 - Sustained. Jury will disregard. 584 00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:20,811 - Nothing further. 585 00:26:20,813 --> 00:26:22,179 - You just said that Ms. Frain 586 00:26:22,181 --> 00:26:23,814 had agreed to search for these photos. 587 00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:26,283 Is there any reason to think that she found them? 588 00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:28,085 - Sergeant Benson and I were informed of that fact 589 00:26:28,087 --> 00:26:29,320 by Dr. Yates. 590 00:26:29,322 --> 00:26:30,988 - Dr. Yates. 591 00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:33,958 You mean the convicted murderer? 592 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,495 I see from the prison logs that you visited Dr. Yates 593 00:26:38,497 --> 00:26:40,331 a half a dozen times in the last few weeks. 594 00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:43,200 - I was hoping he could help me with a number of unsolved cases. 595 00:26:43,202 --> 00:26:45,436 - Two of those visits you undertook on your own. 596 00:26:45,438 --> 00:26:49,173 Is that common practice for a female NYPD detective? 597 00:26:50,976 --> 00:26:52,610 - He was more open to me that way. 598 00:26:52,612 --> 00:26:54,979 - So he confided in you. 599 00:26:54,981 --> 00:26:59,016 Did he also enlist you to help him get a conjugal visit 600 00:26:59,018 --> 00:27:00,818 with Ms. Frain? 601 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:03,020 - Sure. - Given that, it seems fair 602 00:27:03,022 --> 00:27:06,590 to say that you had a relationship with Mr. Yates. 603 00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:08,759 - Not in the way you mean. - Oh, how do I mean it? 604 00:27:08,761 --> 00:27:10,060 - Objection. 605 00:27:10,062 --> 00:27:11,829 - I'll rephrase. 606 00:27:11,831 --> 00:27:13,364 Did anyone in your squad 607 00:27:13,366 --> 00:27:16,000 ever think that Mr. Yates was toying with you, 608 00:27:16,002 --> 00:27:18,535 attempting to implicate Dr. Rudnick 609 00:27:18,537 --> 00:27:21,705 in an effort to exonerate himself? 610 00:27:21,707 --> 00:27:25,509 - All informants have an agenda. 611 00:27:25,511 --> 00:27:28,812 Good detectives... 612 00:27:28,814 --> 00:27:30,748 evaluate their credibility. 613 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:33,150 - Your answer is yes, then? 614 00:27:33,152 --> 00:27:34,551 - Objection. 615 00:27:34,553 --> 00:27:36,654 - Withdrawn. 616 00:27:36,656 --> 00:27:39,156 I'll quit while I'm ahead. 617 00:27:43,928 --> 00:27:46,930 - Hey, you okay? 618 00:27:46,932 --> 00:27:49,900 - Yeah, I thought it was Rudnick on trial, not Yates or me. 619 00:27:49,902 --> 00:27:52,269 - A lot of pressure up there. 620 00:27:52,271 --> 00:27:54,872 - It is. 621 00:27:54,874 --> 00:27:57,207 Also, um... 622 00:27:57,209 --> 00:27:59,843 I'm pregnant. 623 00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:01,945 - Wow. 624 00:28:01,947 --> 00:28:04,715 - Not Nick's. 625 00:28:04,717 --> 00:28:06,750 - Okay. 626 00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:08,752 Thanks for telling me. 627 00:28:08,754 --> 00:28:11,121 - And I know with the squad being shorthanded, 628 00:28:11,123 --> 00:28:12,623 it's not the best time for me, 629 00:28:12,625 --> 00:28:13,891 but I want to promise you 630 00:28:13,893 --> 00:28:16,593 this is not going to affect my ability to do my job. 631 00:28:16,595 --> 00:28:18,996 - Actually, it is, Amanda, you know. 632 00:28:18,998 --> 00:28:20,664 - Yeah, of course, but I just meant-- 633 00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:22,900 - Look, I know you're going to fight me on this, 634 00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:24,568 but as soon as the Department hears, 635 00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:26,670 they're going to put you on restricted duty. 636 00:28:26,672 --> 00:28:30,174 - Can we wait to tell them? 637 00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:33,110 I just want to work until the last minute. 638 00:28:33,112 --> 00:28:36,246 - I know what a hard worker you are. 639 00:28:36,248 --> 00:28:39,750 It's a really good thing, 'cause... 640 00:28:39,752 --> 00:28:42,953 because being a single mom is, uh... 641 00:28:42,955 --> 00:28:45,723 it's not easy. 642 00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:47,224 - Well, I may not be on my own. 643 00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:50,294 My mom might actually move up to New York. 644 00:28:50,296 --> 00:28:51,895 - Good, good. 645 00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:53,564 - Yeah. 646 00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:57,968 - Well, I want you to know I'm--I'm really happy for you. 647 00:28:57,970 --> 00:29:00,270 And, you know, if you want 648 00:29:00,272 --> 00:29:05,008 or need to talk about anything... 649 00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:06,744 I'm here. 650 00:29:08,179 --> 00:29:09,913 - Okay. 651 00:29:19,357 --> 00:29:20,557 She bled out. 652 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:21,992 - Yet you were unable to determine 653 00:29:21,994 --> 00:29:23,927 where the initial wound was made, Dr. Warner? 654 00:29:23,929 --> 00:29:24,928 - Correct. 655 00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:26,430 I believe it was in the piece 656 00:29:26,432 --> 00:29:29,500 of Susie Frain's thigh that remains missing. 657 00:29:29,502 --> 00:29:31,268 - What made you come to that conclusion? 658 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:34,104 - The lack of blood in her other body parts. 659 00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:36,406 - And how many different body parts 660 00:29:36,408 --> 00:29:37,908 were you able to examine? 661 00:29:37,910 --> 00:29:38,909 - Objection. 662 00:29:38,911 --> 00:29:40,477 The prosecution keeps trying 663 00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:43,514 to poison this jury with what happened to the victim's body. 664 00:29:43,516 --> 00:29:47,217 - Overruled. But let's move it along, Mr. Barba. 665 00:29:47,219 --> 00:29:50,020 - Despite being unable to locate the initial wound, 666 00:29:50,022 --> 00:29:51,522 what did you list as manner of death? 667 00:29:51,524 --> 00:29:52,856 - Homicide. 668 00:29:52,858 --> 00:29:55,692 No one ends up cut into pieces like this 669 00:29:55,694 --> 00:29:58,395 after an accidental or natural death. 670 00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:00,731 - Nothing further. 671 00:30:00,733 --> 00:30:03,066 - Dr. Warner... 672 00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:06,804 both Ms. Frain's and my client's blood 673 00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:09,673 were found in Ms. Frain's house. 674 00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:12,176 Isn't that right? - Yes. 675 00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:15,345 - Defense exhibit 13. 676 00:30:15,347 --> 00:30:19,683 My client had defensive wounds on his hand and forearms 677 00:30:19,685 --> 00:30:21,518 when you examined him. 678 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,220 - Yes, he did. 679 00:30:23,222 --> 00:30:25,789 However, I can't tell you how he sustained those injuries. 680 00:30:25,791 --> 00:30:28,292 - Just like you can't tell us how Ms. Frain 681 00:30:28,294 --> 00:30:29,960 sustained her fatal injury. 682 00:30:29,962 --> 00:30:32,563 - Dr. Rudnick walked out of that house. 683 00:30:32,565 --> 00:30:34,531 Susie Frain did not. 684 00:30:34,533 --> 00:30:37,901 - And yet your own autopsy can't determine how she was killed. 685 00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:43,874 Dr. Rudnick was hired as your supervisor two years ago. 686 00:30:44,943 --> 00:30:46,510 Did you apply for that position? 687 00:30:46,512 --> 00:30:48,779 - Yes, but that's not-- - Withdrawn. 688 00:30:48,781 --> 00:30:51,315 Nothing further. 689 00:30:51,317 --> 00:30:53,717 - Redirect, Your Honor. 690 00:30:53,719 --> 00:30:56,453 In your opinion, could Dr. Rudnick's wounds 691 00:30:56,455 --> 00:30:59,156 have been self-inflicted after he killed Ms. Frain? 692 00:30:59,158 --> 00:31:00,991 - Yes, absolutely. 693 00:31:00,993 --> 00:31:04,361 - Thank you. Prosecution rests. 694 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:07,764 - The defense calls Dr. Carl Rudnick. 695 00:31:15,006 --> 00:31:18,442 Dr. Rudnick, tell the jury in your own words 696 00:31:18,444 --> 00:31:21,945 what happened the night you went to Ms. Frain's apartment. 697 00:31:21,947 --> 00:31:24,448 - She attacked me with a kitchen knife. 698 00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:26,149 There was a struggle. 699 00:31:26,151 --> 00:31:30,120 I killed her accidently in self-defense. 700 00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:36,360 Dr. Yates had brainwashed Susie 701 00:31:36,362 --> 00:31:38,562 into believing I'd been setting him up. 702 00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:41,965 She accused me of tampering with the autopsies of his victims, 703 00:31:41,967 --> 00:31:44,001 which is patently absurd. 704 00:31:44,003 --> 00:31:46,837 He'd operated in several disparate states. 705 00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:49,039 And I made the impertinent mistake of laughing. 706 00:31:49,041 --> 00:31:51,041 - And what did she do? 707 00:31:51,043 --> 00:31:52,843 - She grabbed a knife and attacked me. 708 00:31:52,845 --> 00:31:57,381 I defended myself, resulting in these cuts on my hand and arms. 709 00:31:57,383 --> 00:31:58,882 - Could you step down 710 00:31:58,884 --> 00:32:03,020 and demonstrate how you received those wounds, Dr. Rudnick? 711 00:32:03,022 --> 00:32:04,254 - Objection. Prejudicial. 712 00:32:04,256 --> 00:32:06,123 - What? How will the jury know 713 00:32:06,125 --> 00:32:08,358 what really happened if I can't demonstrate? 714 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,927 - Your Honor, I think a demonstration 715 00:32:09,929 --> 00:32:11,395 could be informative. 716 00:32:11,397 --> 00:32:13,130 - I'll allow it, but don't milk it. 717 00:32:36,721 --> 00:32:38,355 - Is this how she held it? 718 00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:40,390 - Yes. She pulled the knife from the butcher block 719 00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:41,558 and swung it down at me. 720 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,226 - Like this? 721 00:32:43,228 --> 00:32:45,395 - Yes, I fended her off for a moment. 722 00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:46,897 - But she kept coming. 723 00:32:46,899 --> 00:32:49,900 - Unfortunately, I pushed her wrist on the downward swing. 724 00:32:49,902 --> 00:32:53,403 She put her body weight into the thrust, 725 00:32:53,405 --> 00:32:56,206 and momentum drove the knife 726 00:32:56,208 --> 00:32:58,709 into her left thigh. 727 00:32:58,711 --> 00:33:02,279 [breathing shakily] 728 00:33:02,281 --> 00:33:04,848 - Doctor... 729 00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:07,584 do you need a moment? 730 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:09,286 - No. 731 00:33:09,288 --> 00:33:11,455 I'm fine. 732 00:33:11,457 --> 00:33:13,357 Thank you. 733 00:33:14,959 --> 00:33:16,660 Thank you. 734 00:33:21,232 --> 00:33:23,600 [sighs] 735 00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:26,136 - What happened next? 736 00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:27,504 - Well, when I saw the blood, 737 00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,940 I knew it had hit the femoral artery. 738 00:33:29,942 --> 00:33:32,743 I was in shock, uh, bleeding. 739 00:33:32,745 --> 00:33:35,879 I momentarily lost consciousness, 740 00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:38,782 and when I came to, it was too late to save her. 741 00:33:38,784 --> 00:33:40,851 - And then what happened? 742 00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:42,019 - I stitched my cuts, 743 00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:44,021 because I was afraid to go to the hospital. 744 00:33:44,023 --> 00:33:45,589 - Why was that? 745 00:33:45,591 --> 00:33:48,191 - I felt if I went in bleeding, 746 00:33:48,193 --> 00:33:50,193 no one would believe a word I had to say. 747 00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:53,497 - How would you describe your state of mind? 748 00:33:53,499 --> 00:33:55,298 - I was panicking. 749 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,167 That's why I tried to get rid of Susie's body. 750 00:33:57,169 --> 00:33:58,869 I'm not proud of that, 751 00:33:58,871 --> 00:34:02,105 but by then, I felt the whole system had turned against me. 752 00:34:02,107 --> 00:34:04,941 It was fight or flight, and I chose to flee. 753 00:34:04,943 --> 00:34:08,912 - And when you fled, you disguised yourself as a woman. 754 00:34:08,914 --> 00:34:10,747 - Everyone was looking for Carl Rudnick. 755 00:34:10,749 --> 00:34:12,949 No one was looking for Carla. 756 00:34:12,951 --> 00:34:15,652 It seemed to be a good idea at the time. 757 00:34:15,654 --> 00:34:19,056 - Thank you, Doctor. 758 00:34:19,058 --> 00:34:20,891 - Mr. Barba. 759 00:34:20,893 --> 00:34:23,260 - Dr. Rudnick, are you the Deputy Chief Medical Examiner 760 00:34:23,262 --> 00:34:24,561 for Manhattan? 761 00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:27,697 - I was. I believe I'm on leave now. 762 00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:29,833 - As such, you would know exactly how to mimic 763 00:34:29,835 --> 00:34:31,835 defensive wounds, wouldn't you? 764 00:34:31,837 --> 00:34:33,070 - Are you implying that-- 765 00:34:33,072 --> 00:34:36,206 - Yes or no. - Yes. 766 00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:40,577 - And you would know how to cut up and dispose of a body. 767 00:34:40,579 --> 00:34:42,546 - An unfortunate area of expertise 768 00:34:42,548 --> 00:34:45,148 for someone accused of murder, but it is mine. 769 00:34:45,150 --> 00:34:46,716 - Did you use a reciprocating saw 770 00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:48,218 and bolt cutter to do so? 771 00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:51,221 People's Exhibit 52-- 772 00:34:51,223 --> 00:34:54,591 a receipt for a saw and bolt cutter... 773 00:34:56,861 --> 00:34:59,062 From Home Depot... 774 00:34:59,064 --> 00:35:03,934 paid with Carl Rudnick's American Express card at 11:50 775 00:35:03,936 --> 00:35:07,270 on the night Susie Frain was murdered. 776 00:35:07,272 --> 00:35:08,738 - Yes, luckily, I was able to make it there 777 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:10,607 before closing time. - Ha. 778 00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:12,909 As you said, you knew exactly what you were doing, 779 00:35:12,911 --> 00:35:14,878 so it is no accident that the one part 780 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,580 of Susie Frain's body, 781 00:35:16,582 --> 00:35:19,883 the piece that could confirm or refute your story, 782 00:35:19,885 --> 00:35:22,853 her left thigh, is the part that's missing. 783 00:35:22,855 --> 00:35:24,888 - Well, you're not suggesting I can control the vagaries 784 00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:26,823 of the tides, are you? 785 00:35:26,825 --> 00:35:29,926 It is my most fervent wish that Susie's limb be found, 786 00:35:29,928 --> 00:35:31,895 because it would prove what I'm saying. 787 00:35:31,897 --> 00:35:33,997 I mean, the angle of the blade's entry 788 00:35:33,999 --> 00:35:36,066 would show her wound was self-inflicted. 789 00:35:36,068 --> 00:35:37,300 - Self-inflicted? 790 00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:38,602 Did she dismember herself too? 791 00:35:38,604 --> 00:35:41,705 - No, obviously I did that. 792 00:35:41,707 --> 00:35:44,941 I didn't know of any other way to get her out of there. 793 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,514 - That was brutal. 794 00:35:50,516 --> 00:35:52,215 - You got some good shots in towards the end of your cross. 795 00:35:52,217 --> 00:35:55,552 - Did I? Two hours-- every time I lunged, he parried. 796 00:35:55,554 --> 00:35:57,287 The longer he was up there, the more the jury liked him. 797 00:35:57,289 --> 00:35:58,588 - How is that possible? 798 00:35:58,590 --> 00:36:00,090 - I don't know-- I mean, he's peculiar, 799 00:36:00,092 --> 00:36:01,591 but there's something interesting about him. 800 00:36:01,593 --> 00:36:02,959 It's weird, but at the end of our road trip, 801 00:36:02,961 --> 00:36:04,528 I kind of missed the guy. - You kind of miss-- 802 00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:05,795 You missed him? - Yeah. 803 00:36:05,797 --> 00:36:07,030 - I thought you two talked too much. 804 00:36:07,032 --> 00:36:08,565 - Yeah, he does talk. 805 00:36:08,567 --> 00:36:10,200 I mean, he went into the bathroom. 806 00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:11,868 He was alone in the stall. He thought nobody was listening, 807 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:13,537 and he kept the conversation going alone. 808 00:36:13,539 --> 00:36:15,005 - You know what? He talks during his autopsies too. 809 00:36:15,007 --> 00:36:16,206 He records everything. 810 00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:17,574 I don't know-- we might go through them, 811 00:36:17,576 --> 00:36:19,809 see if he let something slip. 812 00:36:19,811 --> 00:36:21,478 They're city property, public records. 813 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,382 - It's worth a shot. Make a night of it, Rollins? 814 00:36:25,384 --> 00:36:30,086 - Caucasian female, late 20s, red hair. 815 00:36:30,088 --> 00:36:33,690 Like so many redheads, less susceptible to anesthesia. 816 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,563 She felt everything that was being done to her. 817 00:36:39,565 --> 00:36:41,231 - I found out why he likes redheads. 818 00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:42,899 That's all I got. - Shh. 819 00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:48,205 I think I got something. 820 00:36:48,207 --> 00:36:49,506 - From an autopsy? 821 00:36:49,508 --> 00:36:52,442 - No, video, and it's not from the morgue. 822 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:09,559 I'm contacting my lawyer. 823 00:37:09,561 --> 00:37:11,261 I'd like to exercise that right. 824 00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:12,462 - Feel free. 825 00:37:12,464 --> 00:37:15,165 We will wait to continue questioning you 826 00:37:15,167 --> 00:37:17,267 until a lawyer arrives. 827 00:37:19,704 --> 00:37:23,406 [footsteps departing, door closes] 828 00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:26,409 - They can't pin these on you. 829 00:37:28,846 --> 00:37:31,414 Rachel was a crack whore. 830 00:37:33,184 --> 00:37:36,019 And with the green nail polish 831 00:37:36,021 --> 00:37:39,089 and the proximity to Yates' victims... 832 00:37:40,691 --> 00:37:42,759 That's far too much reasonable doubt. 833 00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:44,995 And Lena, 834 00:37:44,997 --> 00:37:47,831 nobody will buy Yates' word. 835 00:37:47,833 --> 00:37:50,333 And my only risk there is Susie. 836 00:37:50,335 --> 00:37:51,668 She's dumb as a post, 837 00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:54,838 but she still can put two and two together. 838 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,073 And if she does... 839 00:37:58,843 --> 00:38:02,912 I suppose I'll have to kill her... 840 00:38:02,914 --> 00:38:04,581 just like the others. 841 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,654 [sighs] Kill them all, Carl... 842 00:38:13,257 --> 00:38:15,892 Whatever it takes. 843 00:38:15,894 --> 00:38:17,861 [door opens] 844 00:38:17,863 --> 00:38:20,397 Rita, it's very good of you to come on such short notice. 845 00:38:20,399 --> 00:38:24,267 - Of course, Carl, but I'm afraid I have some bad news. 846 00:38:24,269 --> 00:38:27,470 - This is clearly inadmissible, Your Honor. 847 00:38:27,472 --> 00:38:30,073 - I understand why you'd like to think that. 848 00:38:30,075 --> 00:38:33,576 Walk me through the provenance and chain of evidence. 849 00:38:33,578 --> 00:38:35,412 How did this fall into your hands? 850 00:38:35,414 --> 00:38:37,247 - We asked Dr. Rudnick to come in for an interview, 851 00:38:37,249 --> 00:38:39,182 and he gave us permission to record it. 852 00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:41,117 - Your Honor, Dr. Rudnick had asked for counsel. 853 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:42,585 - And when he did, we immediately stopped 854 00:38:42,587 --> 00:38:43,820 questioning him and left the room. 855 00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:44,921 - Yes, but you left the camera on. 856 00:38:44,923 --> 00:38:47,324 - He knew that he was being recorded. 857 00:38:47,326 --> 00:38:48,758 We weren't interrogating him. 858 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,894 This was a spontaneous admission. 859 00:38:50,896 --> 00:38:52,095 Your client talks to himself. 860 00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:54,731 - Not only is this inadmissible under Miranda, 861 00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:56,533 but it's also Brady material 862 00:38:56,535 --> 00:38:58,101 that should have been made available to us. 863 00:38:58,103 --> 00:38:59,402 - It was. A copy of this video 864 00:38:59,404 --> 00:39:01,571 has been in your possession since day one. 865 00:39:01,573 --> 00:39:03,573 You must have stopped watching when we stopped questioning. 866 00:39:03,575 --> 00:39:04,674 - He's right, Mr. Buchanan. 867 00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:06,643 If you turned this off, it's on you. 868 00:39:06,645 --> 00:39:07,877 This is admissible. 869 00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:09,579 - I was simply thinking out loud. 870 00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:10,680 - Carl. 871 00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:13,750 - We'll let the jury determine that. 872 00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:16,419 - You had the recording for the entirety of my ordeal, 873 00:39:16,421 --> 00:39:20,090 and you didn't know it? - Carl. 874 00:39:20,092 --> 00:39:22,092 - Your Honor, I immediately move for new counsel 875 00:39:22,094 --> 00:39:24,160 on the basis of incompetent defense. 876 00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:25,562 - [chuckles] That's your right. 877 00:39:25,564 --> 00:39:27,063 I should caution you, though-- 878 00:39:27,065 --> 00:39:30,133 this material is admissible no matter who defends you. 879 00:39:36,407 --> 00:39:40,577 Dr. Rudnick, I understand you'd like to change your plea. 880 00:39:40,579 --> 00:39:42,245 - Yes, Your Honor. 881 00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:46,249 - On the charge of murder in the first degree of Susie Frain, 882 00:39:46,251 --> 00:39:47,550 how do you plead? 883 00:39:47,552 --> 00:39:49,753 - Guilty as charged. 884 00:39:49,755 --> 00:39:51,154 [audience murmuring] 885 00:39:51,156 --> 00:39:52,422 - And to the outstanding charge 886 00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:56,893 of murder in the first degree of Rachel Groves? 887 00:39:56,895 --> 00:39:59,496 - I'm afraid I'm guilty on that one as well. 888 00:39:59,498 --> 00:40:02,232 - Your Honor, at this time, 889 00:40:02,234 --> 00:40:04,567 the prosecution would like to withdraw its charge 890 00:40:04,569 --> 00:40:06,903 of murder in the first degree of Lena Grunwald. 891 00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:08,905 - All right, Counselors, thank you for your time. 892 00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:10,507 And now that justice has been served, 893 00:40:10,509 --> 00:40:12,208 I declare this court adjourned. 894 00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:14,544 [gavel bangs] 895 00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:22,018 - Wait. He gets away with Lena's murder. 896 00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:23,520 - Well, he'll still do 25 to life 897 00:40:23,522 --> 00:40:25,188 for the other two charges. 898 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:27,490 Maybe you two will be roommates one day. 899 00:40:27,492 --> 00:40:29,025 [chuckles] 900 00:40:29,027 --> 00:40:31,327 - He did it, you know. 901 00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:34,798 Lena--he strangled her to death. 902 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,101 - Her skull was also fractured. 903 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:42,505 - Strangulation was the cause of death. 904 00:40:42,507 --> 00:40:44,808 Skull fracture was post-mortem. 905 00:40:46,677 --> 00:40:49,179 - You sound pretty sure about that. 906 00:40:49,181 --> 00:40:51,848 - I'm just piecing it together, 907 00:40:51,850 --> 00:40:54,184 but if I had to guess... 908 00:40:54,186 --> 00:40:56,686 Lena was his first time. 909 00:40:56,688 --> 00:40:58,855 Carl screwed up, 910 00:40:58,857 --> 00:41:01,191 and he had to call someone with more experience 911 00:41:01,193 --> 00:41:04,694 to help him finish. 912 00:41:06,063 --> 00:41:09,032 - And how did this person help? 913 00:41:09,034 --> 00:41:11,334 - He probably advised Carl 914 00:41:11,336 --> 00:41:14,337 to keep Lena alive 915 00:41:14,339 --> 00:41:16,840 as long as possible. 916 00:41:16,842 --> 00:41:21,244 Such a waste to have her die so quickly. 917 00:41:30,187 --> 00:41:34,390 - Why are you telling me this now? 918 00:41:34,392 --> 00:41:38,161 - Because I believe when one life ends, 919 00:41:38,163 --> 00:41:39,762 another begins. 920 00:41:39,764 --> 00:41:42,832 You are bringing life into this world 921 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:46,402 just as I lost my wife and my child. 922 00:41:47,838 --> 00:41:50,006 I feel a connection to you. 923 00:41:52,676 --> 00:41:54,177 You'll be back. 924 00:41:54,179 --> 00:41:57,747 And I will be here. 925 00:42:36,787 --> 00:42:39,856 [wolf howls]