1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.COM 1 00:00:07,633 --> 00:00:08,633 What about... 2 00:00:10,052 --> 00:00:13,013 "Why are you doing this?" 3 00:00:13,096 --> 00:00:15,432 - No, hey, whoa. Delete that. - Why? 4 00:00:15,516 --> 00:00:17,226 You can't just ask him why he's doing this. 5 00:00:17,309 --> 00:00:18,936 We need something stronger. Come on. 6 00:00:19,603 --> 00:00:21,605 "Bold move, DeMarcus." 7 00:00:22,272 --> 00:00:24,316 - What? No. - Yeah. 8 00:00:24,942 --> 00:00:27,319 Okay, first off, that's way too big of a jump, okay? 9 00:00:27,402 --> 00:00:30,113 And second off, you don't type in the app, dude. 10 00:00:30,197 --> 00:00:32,133 - You draft in the Notes app. - Yeah, you're right. 11 00:00:32,157 --> 00:00:34,409 Everyone knows that. That way you don't see dot-dot-dot. 12 00:00:34,493 --> 00:00:36,620 Good point. What about this? 13 00:00:37,538 --> 00:00:39,957 "Shitty job or not, if you're reaching out to us, 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,875 then you must have something you want to say." 15 00:00:41,959 --> 00:00:44,159 - That could get him to talk. - [Sam] Yeah. I like that. 16 00:00:44,211 --> 00:00:45,731 - [Peter] Yeah? Okay. - For sure, yeah. 17 00:00:46,338 --> 00:00:48,924 How about this? "Shitty job or not, if you're reaching out to us, 18 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:51,051 you must have something to say, so say it." 19 00:00:51,134 --> 00:00:53,595 Maybe the "so say it" is too aggressive. 20 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:55,973 - I think it's too aggressive. - Not at all, I love that. 21 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:58,284 If anything, it should be, "If you're reaching out to us, 22 00:00:58,308 --> 00:01:00,769 you must have something to say, so say it, bitch." 23 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:03,397 - That's too much. - That's way too much. 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,667 Do it without it, but that's, like, what it sounds like. 25 00:01:05,691 --> 00:01:08,485 Okay, "You must have something to say, so say it." 26 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:09,403 Send it, dude. 27 00:01:09,486 --> 00:01:12,030 [keyboard clicking] 28 00:01:12,114 --> 00:01:14,408 - All right, now we just wait. - Is it sent? 29 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:15,700 Okay. 30 00:01:16,785 --> 00:01:18,036 [Peter] Hmm. 31 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:20,872 [indistinct background chatter] 32 00:01:21,206 --> 00:01:22,207 [phone chimes] 33 00:01:22,708 --> 00:01:24,001 [Peter] Dude, he messaged back. 34 00:01:24,585 --> 00:01:25,669 [Sam] Huh? 35 00:01:26,128 --> 00:01:28,088 "Meet me at 47.9." 36 00:01:28,338 --> 00:01:30,048 Look, dude, those are coordinates. 37 00:01:30,882 --> 00:01:32,134 Those are coordinates. 38 00:01:32,718 --> 00:01:35,971 Okay, tell... Tell him we're coming then. Let's go. 39 00:01:37,806 --> 00:01:40,142 [Peter] Oh, dude, look. Eww. 40 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,061 [Sam] That's definitely poop, yeah. 41 00:01:44,021 --> 00:01:45,314 I don't think he's here, man. 42 00:01:45,397 --> 00:01:46,607 [Peter sighs] 43 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:50,193 [Peter] I'm gonna text him and tell him that we're here. 44 00:01:50,277 --> 00:01:53,155 You know, we're within 150 meters of Kevin's house. 45 00:01:53,989 --> 00:01:55,907 - [message sent chime] - [Peter] All right. 46 00:01:56,575 --> 00:01:57,575 Oh, he responded. 47 00:01:58,076 --> 00:01:59,119 What'd he say? 48 00:01:59,244 --> 00:02:01,246 "Time to get your hands dirty, Peter." 49 00:02:01,955 --> 00:02:03,749 - No way. Let me see. - Oh, no! 50 00:02:04,499 --> 00:02:06,209 You think he hid something in there? 51 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,712 [Sam] You should definitely dig to find out. 52 00:02:08,795 --> 00:02:09,880 [Peter] No, you dig. 53 00:02:09,963 --> 00:02:11,883 - No, the message says... - Doesn't say who digs. 54 00:02:11,923 --> 00:02:14,176 It says, "Time to get your hands dirty, Peter." 55 00:02:17,679 --> 00:02:18,680 [sniffles] 56 00:02:20,015 --> 00:02:22,517 [Sam] I'm gonna take a few steps back. Jeez. 57 00:02:22,601 --> 00:02:23,601 [sniffles] 58 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:26,688 That is way too big to be dog shit. 59 00:02:29,232 --> 00:02:31,109 [Peter] What the hell. There's... 60 00:02:34,237 --> 00:02:35,530 There's nothing in here. 61 00:02:36,948 --> 00:02:38,628 - [Sam] Yeah. - What was the point of this? 62 00:02:38,659 --> 00:02:41,787 I think he just wanted you to dig through shit with chopsticks. 63 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:44,581 [Sam chuckles] 64 00:02:47,376 --> 00:02:49,378 [intro music playing] 65 00:03:25,122 --> 00:03:27,207 [Peter] In the seven weeks after the Brownout, 66 00:03:27,290 --> 00:03:30,335 the Turd Burglar avoided direct contact with everyone. 67 00:03:30,711 --> 00:03:32,671 Ignoring DMs from the police... 68 00:03:32,754 --> 00:03:35,900 To date, police say they have not yet been able to communicate with the culprit. 69 00:03:35,924 --> 00:03:37,134 [Peter] Other students... 70 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:38,927 [girl] A bunch of us tried to message him, 71 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:40,721 but he never DM'd or followed anyone back. 72 00:03:40,804 --> 00:03:42,848 [Peter] And over a dozen from myself. 73 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:46,184 It wasn't until I confronted DeMarcus in person 74 00:03:46,268 --> 00:03:48,895 that the Turd Burglar decided to break the silence... 75 00:03:48,979 --> 00:03:51,773 - [phone buzzes] - ...reaching out to me the very next day 76 00:03:51,857 --> 00:03:55,402 with four direct messages that led me to digging through poop. 77 00:03:55,485 --> 00:03:57,028 [Sam] That's definitely poop, yeah. 78 00:03:58,071 --> 00:04:01,283 [Peter] Does this sudden contact point to DeMarcus being the Turd Burglar? 79 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:03,118 'Cause I'm Mr. Untouchable. 80 00:04:03,201 --> 00:04:05,078 [Peter] Could DeMarcus feel so untouchable... 81 00:04:05,162 --> 00:04:06,204 I'm here for you, Pete! 82 00:04:06,288 --> 00:04:08,582 Let me know when you need something! I'm an open book! 83 00:04:08,665 --> 00:04:10,667 [Peter] ...that even after I confronted him, 84 00:04:10,751 --> 00:04:12,669 he would still taunt me through DMs 85 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:15,005 and agree to sit down for further interviews? 86 00:04:15,714 --> 00:04:17,716 And if Kevin was the Turd Burglar, 87 00:04:18,008 --> 00:04:21,720 why, after all we've done for him, would he make me dig through poop? 88 00:04:22,888 --> 00:04:23,930 Either way, 89 00:04:24,014 --> 00:04:26,475 having an open line of communication with the Turd Burglar... 90 00:04:26,558 --> 00:04:27,809 Oh, he responded. 91 00:04:27,893 --> 00:04:29,269 ...was an enormous victory. 92 00:04:30,061 --> 00:04:33,356 Because while four DMs may not seem like a big deal, 93 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,359 it was adding to a growing pile of digital clues 94 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:39,654 that brought us closer to finding the Turd Burglar's identity. 95 00:04:40,530 --> 00:04:43,492 Some of these digital clues are easy to interpret. 96 00:04:43,742 --> 00:04:45,827 For instance, the Turd Burglar account 97 00:04:45,911 --> 00:04:48,997 contains reposted pictures of the Brownout 98 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,541 with tags to dozens of students in the school. 99 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:53,919 I got tagged in a video by the Turd Burglar. 100 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:55,295 I got tagged in a video. 101 00:04:55,378 --> 00:04:58,799 He knew just about everybody that shit themselves that day. 102 00:04:59,424 --> 00:05:01,718 [Peter] So we know that the Turd Burglar must be someone 103 00:05:01,802 --> 00:05:04,095 with a working knowledge of the student body. 104 00:05:04,846 --> 00:05:07,891 But some of these digital clues are harder to make sense of, 105 00:05:08,517 --> 00:05:10,477 raising questions that we can't answer. 106 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:13,563 Like the Turd Burglar's final two posts. 107 00:05:14,147 --> 00:05:16,358 One of Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo, 108 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:18,485 and one of an advent calendar 109 00:05:18,735 --> 00:05:20,362 with the date December 4th. 110 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:25,075 They seem to be warning of a crime on the 4th that never took place, 111 00:05:25,784 --> 00:05:29,329 and they were posted after Kevin was put on house arrest. 112 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:33,291 [Sam] Okay, so I think Kevin posted these after he was put on house arrest 113 00:05:33,375 --> 00:05:36,628 to make it look like he was innocent, like the Turd Burglar was still out there. 114 00:05:36,711 --> 00:05:40,465 And since he was on house arrest, there was no aftermath post, 115 00:05:40,549 --> 00:05:41,842 no evidence of a fourth crime, 116 00:05:41,925 --> 00:05:43,885 because Kevin wasn't in school to do it. 117 00:05:44,219 --> 00:05:48,014 You have to admit that that's still the strongest argument against Kevin. 118 00:05:48,306 --> 00:05:50,266 Yeah, but you could also look at it the other way, 119 00:05:50,308 --> 00:05:53,186 that he wouldn't warn of a crime knowing that he couldn't do it. 120 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:55,272 [Sam] No, he's thinking we would think that, 121 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,023 and then he wouldn't do that, you know? 122 00:05:57,107 --> 00:06:00,151 No, these are warning posts. Whoever posted these thought 123 00:06:00,235 --> 00:06:02,362 they'd be able to pull off a crime and then failed. 124 00:06:02,445 --> 00:06:03,572 That wouldn't be Kevin, 125 00:06:03,655 --> 00:06:05,949 'cause Kevin was already under house arrest at the time. 126 00:06:06,032 --> 00:06:08,869 - So, you think DeMarcus? - Yes. 127 00:06:08,952 --> 00:06:10,912 To me there's just so much against him. 128 00:06:10,996 --> 00:06:13,876 He thought he could commit a fourth crime, but for some reason he failed. 129 00:06:14,291 --> 00:06:16,167 [Peter] Clearly, Sam and I couldn't agree 130 00:06:16,251 --> 00:06:19,296 on whether the multiple December 4th warning posts 131 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:22,424 were more damning for Kevin or DeMarcus. 132 00:06:23,174 --> 00:06:26,094 But there are plenty of other digital clues to break down. 133 00:06:26,428 --> 00:06:27,554 For example, 134 00:06:27,637 --> 00:06:30,974 did the Turd Burglar messages seem like they could be written 135 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:32,392 by DeMarcus Tillman? 136 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:35,061 [Sam] Just look at the way the Turd Burglar talks. 137 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:36,813 "Time to remove the veil." 138 00:06:37,272 --> 00:06:39,482 That doesn't sound like DeMarcus at all. 139 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:40,483 Like, at all. 140 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:42,694 And then, over here, um... 141 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:45,715 "Within the confines of this school, you'll find a lot of shitheads. 142 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:46,573 [Peter] Yeah. 143 00:06:46,656 --> 00:06:49,618 DeMarcus gets along with everybody at the school. 144 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,412 [Peter] Sam's right. It doesn't sound like him. 145 00:06:52,495 --> 00:06:54,956 I want all y'all to go home, get you some pussy. 146 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,000 Squeaky, go get your dick... Do whatever you do. 147 00:06:57,083 --> 00:06:59,544 I love this dude, man. I love this dude even more. 148 00:07:00,086 --> 00:07:03,048 I even love this dude. He tie his shoes like he work at Footlocker. 149 00:07:03,131 --> 00:07:05,508 - [Sam] He doesn't think they're shitheads. - [Peter] Right. 150 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:07,135 And you're 100% right about that, 151 00:07:07,218 --> 00:07:09,218 it doesn't sound like him, but you have to remember 152 00:07:09,262 --> 00:07:10,972 that if it is DeMarcus, 153 00:07:11,056 --> 00:07:13,767 he would be actively trying to not sound like himself. 154 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:16,603 He'd be trying to throw us, trying to throw his voice. 155 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,983 [Hannah] Individuals who are attempting to disguise their online presence 156 00:07:22,067 --> 00:07:25,111 will alter their use of linguistic features. 157 00:07:25,195 --> 00:07:28,698 This is common in the real world, in the way we use language. 158 00:07:28,782 --> 00:07:32,786 We refer to these processes as "code switching" or "style shifting." 159 00:07:33,286 --> 00:07:35,455 [Peter] And we've seen code switching before 160 00:07:35,538 --> 00:07:37,123 in very obvious ways. 161 00:07:37,749 --> 00:07:39,668 With his Sir Fuxalot prank, 162 00:07:39,751 --> 00:07:41,795 DeMarcus' idol, Perry Coleman, 163 00:07:41,878 --> 00:07:44,839 would talk in Old English, saying things like, 164 00:07:44,923 --> 00:07:49,469 "Sad that mine own mistress Paige Burton won't sucketh mine on dick." 165 00:07:50,011 --> 00:07:52,097 And we've seen more subtle code switching 166 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:54,599 from DeMarcus' own texts and social media. 167 00:07:54,683 --> 00:07:56,351 Look at these text messages. 168 00:07:56,726 --> 00:07:58,728 When he talks to his Rainier Beach friends, 169 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:01,856 his, you know, his city friends, he uses his slang. 170 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:04,401 In responding to a message, he writes, "FRFR." 171 00:08:04,484 --> 00:08:05,819 "For real, for real." 172 00:08:05,902 --> 00:08:07,570 And then when you look at this message, 173 00:08:07,654 --> 00:08:09,781 when he's talking to his St. Bernardine friends, 174 00:08:09,864 --> 00:08:11,700 he responds saying, "Forsure." 175 00:08:11,783 --> 00:08:14,285 So it's clear that DeMarcus can sound like different people. 176 00:08:14,953 --> 00:08:16,997 I've known DeMarcus since we were little kids. 177 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,916 I'm... I mean, I don't want to say when he's at St. Bernardine 178 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,211 that he talks whiter, but he talks whiter. 179 00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:25,797 It is what it is. We all gotta do it. 180 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,133 [DeMarcus] Yeah, I talk different to people here. 181 00:08:28,425 --> 00:08:31,302 It's like, I'm not trying to say the n-word at St. Bernie's. 182 00:08:31,386 --> 00:08:33,430 Like, one time I slipped up, right? 183 00:08:33,722 --> 00:08:36,075 And I could just see their little white kids' gears turning. 184 00:08:36,099 --> 00:08:37,100 They just looking at me. 185 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:39,143 In they eyes, I could read what they was thinking. 186 00:08:39,185 --> 00:08:41,396 Like, "Can I say it next? Is it cool?" No. 187 00:08:41,479 --> 00:08:42,480 Nope. 188 00:08:42,564 --> 00:08:45,025 So it's clear that DeMarcus can sound like different people. 189 00:08:45,150 --> 00:08:47,694 So if he can sound like different people in his text messages, 190 00:08:47,777 --> 00:08:50,780 then he can sound like different people as the Turd Burglar. 191 00:08:51,990 --> 00:08:55,493 [Peter] It makes sense that DeMarcus would throw his voice to avoid detection. 192 00:08:56,244 --> 00:08:57,579 But what if he made mistakes? 193 00:08:58,329 --> 00:09:00,373 Could he have left traces of his own style 194 00:09:00,457 --> 00:09:02,125 when writing as the Turd Burglar? 195 00:09:03,126 --> 00:09:05,003 Look at this post from September 6th. 196 00:09:05,795 --> 00:09:09,215 "Asian Josh puts a grimace emoji on my face. 197 00:09:09,299 --> 00:09:11,968 198 00:09:12,719 --> 00:09:14,679 It seems clear he meant to say, 199 00:09:14,763 --> 00:09:17,307 "Asian Josh puts a smile on my face," 200 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:19,184 but misused the emoji. 201 00:09:19,851 --> 00:09:21,227 On November 2nd, 202 00:09:21,436 --> 00:09:24,981 it seems like the Turd Burglar misused the same emoji 203 00:09:25,273 --> 00:09:26,273 when he wrote, 204 00:09:26,316 --> 00:09:28,860 "Grimace and say cheese." 205 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:31,613 Look at the way he uses the grimace face, those gritted teeth. 206 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:34,240 So what are the odds that two different people 207 00:09:34,324 --> 00:09:36,409 both mistake the grimace for a smiley? 208 00:09:36,493 --> 00:09:38,203 You have to admit that that looks bad. 209 00:09:38,286 --> 00:09:41,081 The grimace face felt like a huge break, 210 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:44,626 an undeniable tie between DeMarcus and the Turd Burglar. 211 00:09:46,002 --> 00:09:47,337 But that same grimace face 212 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:48,963 uncovered another fact. 213 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:52,175 A fact that I had to admit through gritted teeth of my own. 214 00:09:52,258 --> 00:09:54,552 [Sam] Yeah, I'll give you the grimace, but... 215 00:09:54,636 --> 00:09:56,554 [sighs] How do you explain the glitch? 216 00:09:57,138 --> 00:09:58,306 [Peter] DeMarcus... 217 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:00,350 didn't have the glitch. 218 00:10:05,230 --> 00:10:07,440 In November of 2017, 219 00:10:07,524 --> 00:10:12,737 iPhone users experienced a glitch when updating to iOS 11.1. 220 00:10:12,821 --> 00:10:16,282 Well, there were, like, three weeks where it was super annoying. 221 00:10:16,366 --> 00:10:18,451 I had to restructure my sentences. 222 00:10:18,743 --> 00:10:21,246 I ended up talking in the third person like some kind of idiot. 223 00:10:21,329 --> 00:10:24,165 It was like we were all talking in robot code for a week. 224 00:10:24,249 --> 00:10:26,960 [Peter] It was an issue specific to the keyboard. 225 00:10:27,168 --> 00:10:30,380 Uppercase I would be autocorrected to the letter A 226 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,674 and a question mark in a box. 227 00:10:32,924 --> 00:10:35,635 For example, if you were texting a friend, 228 00:10:35,718 --> 00:10:37,262 "I was so drunk last night," 229 00:10:37,345 --> 00:10:41,141 it would read, "A? was so drunk last night." 230 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:44,978 This glitch caused a significant uproar in the iPhone community 231 00:10:45,061 --> 00:10:47,188 and even sparked a series of memes. 232 00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:50,233 We can see that on November 2nd, 233 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:53,236 the Turd Burglar had the Apple iOS glitch, 234 00:10:53,903 --> 00:10:55,321 but DeMarcus didn't. 235 00:10:55,613 --> 00:10:57,532 So the Turd Burglar posts 236 00:10:57,615 --> 00:11:00,243 couldn't have been made from DeMarcus' phone. 237 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:02,912 I mean, I don't think DeMarcus would fake that. 238 00:11:02,996 --> 00:11:05,957 That's next level code switching if he did. 239 00:11:06,541 --> 00:11:08,084 [Peter] No, you're right. I mean, 240 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:10,488 every single time I'm convinced that he's the Turd Burglar, 241 00:11:10,545 --> 00:11:12,881 I come back to the fact that he doesn't have the glitch. 242 00:11:12,964 --> 00:11:14,924 [Sam] And why are we investigating him anyways? 243 00:11:15,383 --> 00:11:18,636 Because Chloe supposedly saw the Turd Burglar card in his wallet? 244 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,138 [Peter] That's no small thing. 245 00:11:20,221 --> 00:11:22,891 She said that she saw the card. He's the Turd Burglar. 246 00:11:22,974 --> 00:11:25,226 [Sam] Okay, but Gonzo said it was just a yogurt card. 247 00:11:25,310 --> 00:11:26,644 It wasn't the Turd Burglar card. 248 00:11:26,728 --> 00:11:28,980 It was the Yummy Swirl Yogurt card. 249 00:11:29,063 --> 00:11:31,774 [Peter] Okay, but he's obviously lying to protect his teammate. 250 00:11:31,858 --> 00:11:33,776 [Sam] Sure, and Chloe could be lying too, dude. 251 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:35,361 It was DeMarcus Tillman. 252 00:11:35,445 --> 00:11:36,446 Lying about what? 253 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:38,239 I saw the Turd Burglar card in there. 254 00:11:38,323 --> 00:11:40,283 What, do you think she's involved in this? 255 00:11:40,366 --> 00:11:42,827 Her service club alibi checked out, and she'd have to be crazy 256 00:11:42,911 --> 00:11:45,079 to be letting us stay in her house if she was guilty! 257 00:11:45,163 --> 00:11:47,808 - When did I say I thought she's involved? - Then what are you saying? 258 00:11:47,832 --> 00:11:49,125 I think she's biased. 259 00:11:50,084 --> 00:11:53,546 For reasons that I don't understand, 'cause Kevin kinda fuckin' sucks. 260 00:11:53,922 --> 00:11:55,548 [Peter] Sam brings up a good point. 261 00:11:56,132 --> 00:11:57,926 Not about Kevin sucking, 262 00:11:58,009 --> 00:12:00,386 but about Chloe having a reason to be biased. 263 00:12:01,346 --> 00:12:03,598 Could she just be protecting a friend? 264 00:12:04,349 --> 00:12:06,267 How deep do their roots run? 265 00:12:07,435 --> 00:12:09,854 So, I met Kevin in the fourth grade. 266 00:12:10,521 --> 00:12:13,691 [Kevin] Chloe was new at school that year. 267 00:12:14,025 --> 00:12:18,071 I first took notice of her at recess. 268 00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:19,739 She was by herself. 269 00:12:20,323 --> 00:12:22,533 I decided to provide her with company. 270 00:12:23,243 --> 00:12:25,954 [Chloe] We used to play Angry Birds all the time 271 00:12:26,037 --> 00:12:28,706 on this old iPod Touch of mine. 272 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:31,751 It's a childish game, but we were young and... 273 00:12:33,169 --> 00:12:34,212 it was quite a trip. 274 00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:36,714 [Chloe] We just loved Angry Birds, 275 00:12:36,798 --> 00:12:39,342 and we got really, really into it that whole year. 276 00:12:39,425 --> 00:12:41,386 If ever we got stuck on something, 277 00:12:41,469 --> 00:12:43,054 we would just blame the creators 278 00:12:43,137 --> 00:12:45,306 and basically send prank emails to them. 279 00:12:45,723 --> 00:12:46,808 It was pretty funny. 280 00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:50,687 [Kevin] To a casual observer, we might have looked like lovebirds. 281 00:12:51,396 --> 00:12:54,816 Ironic that it all started with us playing Angry Birds. 282 00:12:55,566 --> 00:12:56,693 [Chloe] In my family, 283 00:12:57,026 --> 00:12:58,987 we're a pretty traditional family, 284 00:12:59,237 --> 00:13:01,656 and so by the time I was in sixth grade, 285 00:13:01,739 --> 00:13:05,785 I knew it was either lawyer, doctor, or engineer for my future career. 286 00:13:06,244 --> 00:13:07,829 And then one day, 287 00:13:08,955 --> 00:13:10,456 Kevin overheard me singing. 288 00:13:11,082 --> 00:13:13,293 [Kevin] She was singing "Party in the USA." 289 00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:16,879 In public. Softly, but still. 290 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:21,801 That song is the bubonic plague of sound. 291 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:25,013 [Kevin] He turned around and he said 292 00:13:25,096 --> 00:13:28,141 the nicest thing that Kevin is capable of saying. 293 00:13:28,725 --> 00:13:29,725 [Kevin] I told her this. 294 00:13:30,727 --> 00:13:34,314 "That song is an ocular catastrophe, 295 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:37,483 but you make it sound just perfect." 296 00:13:38,484 --> 00:13:39,736 It's the truth. She did. 297 00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:42,530 I googled "ocular" that night. 298 00:13:43,698 --> 00:13:46,159 He used the word wrong, but it was really sweet. 299 00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:49,662 [choir vocalizing] 300 00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:51,998 [Chloe] I had always wanted to sing, 301 00:13:52,707 --> 00:13:55,793 but I didn't really have the confidence to tell anyone. 302 00:13:56,919 --> 00:13:59,422 But Kevin said I sounded perfect, so... 303 00:14:00,131 --> 00:14:02,550 [choir vocalizing] 304 00:14:02,633 --> 00:14:03,843 [Kevin] Yeah, Chloe! 305 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:06,304 Boo, everyone else! 306 00:14:07,305 --> 00:14:09,474 [Chloe] I'm applying to the Berklee School of Music. 307 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:13,061 My singing coach thinks I have a real shot. 308 00:14:13,644 --> 00:14:14,979 Her talent was undeniable. 309 00:14:15,063 --> 00:14:18,524 I mean, without so much as an audition, I introduced her to Tanner. 310 00:14:18,608 --> 00:14:20,610 It was just, she had to be in the band. 311 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,656 [girl] So, from fifth to eighth grade, it was, like, the three of them. 312 00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:29,327 Then we all just started to realize that the Horsehead Collective, um... 313 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:31,245 that their music was shitty, 314 00:14:31,329 --> 00:14:32,997 and they just drifted apart. 315 00:14:33,414 --> 00:14:36,501 Yeah, and then I guess Chloe started to make more friends. 316 00:14:36,751 --> 00:14:38,336 She made the basketball team. 317 00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:42,131 [girl] I give Chloe credit for hanging out with Kevin as long as she did. 318 00:14:42,340 --> 00:14:43,633 Chloe's cool. 319 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:45,259 And, I mean, Kevin, he's... 320 00:14:45,676 --> 00:14:47,512 he's cool in his own way. 321 00:14:47,595 --> 00:14:48,971 [guy] Hey, Fruit Ninja! 322 00:14:49,847 --> 00:14:50,847 But, you know, 323 00:14:51,349 --> 00:14:52,558 he's the Fruit Ninja. 324 00:14:53,601 --> 00:14:55,770 We still hung out sometimes in high school. 325 00:14:56,354 --> 00:14:58,481 I really enjoyed hanging out one-on-one, 326 00:14:59,148 --> 00:15:01,401 but in groups he could be... 327 00:15:01,818 --> 00:15:02,985 a little tough. 328 00:15:03,069 --> 00:15:06,072 They hear "EDM" and they think "techno," 329 00:15:06,155 --> 00:15:09,659 but techno could not be farther from what good... 330 00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:12,662 [girl] It got to the point where if Chloe was coming out... 331 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:13,621 [phone buzzes] 332 00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:16,374 ...we had to explicitly say not to invite Kevin. 333 00:15:16,457 --> 00:15:20,711 [phone buzzes intermittently] 334 00:15:20,795 --> 00:15:24,132 [Kevin] It was alright that we didn't hang out as much anymore. 335 00:15:24,215 --> 00:15:28,886 I mean, honestly, the Horsehead was evolving past vocals anyway. 336 00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:32,473 [Chloe] I do feel guilty that I stopped inviting him to things, 337 00:15:32,557 --> 00:15:36,394 but it just didn't seem like he wanted to go to anything. 338 00:15:38,187 --> 00:15:39,187 So... 339 00:15:39,689 --> 00:15:40,689 yeah. 340 00:15:45,528 --> 00:15:48,865 [Peter] So we're just confused about one thing, so just bear with me. 341 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:52,452 If you first saw the Turd Burglar card in DeMarcus' wallet on November 9th, 342 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:56,247 then why did you wait two weeks until November 22nd to say something? 343 00:15:56,330 --> 00:15:58,207 The day after Kevin was expelled? 344 00:15:59,542 --> 00:16:00,751 Because I... 345 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:04,881 I didn't want to snitch, I mean, on DeMarcus Tillman... 346 00:16:06,257 --> 00:16:07,800 [crowd cheers] 347 00:16:07,884 --> 00:16:09,385 ...if I didn't have to. 348 00:16:10,178 --> 00:16:12,472 I mean, you could've stopped two more Turd Burglar crimes. 349 00:16:12,555 --> 00:16:14,640 - You see what we're saying? - [Chloe] Yeah, it's... 350 00:16:14,724 --> 00:16:16,476 [Peter] It's just that... 351 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:18,561 I just... It didn't feel like, my place. 352 00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:20,438 - You know? - Mm-hmm. 353 00:16:20,521 --> 00:16:21,772 Until Kevin got accused. 354 00:16:21,856 --> 00:16:24,984 Kevin, here's the thing. We know you did it. 355 00:16:25,067 --> 00:16:28,196 I knew that he didn't do it and that's why I came forward. 356 00:16:28,279 --> 00:16:30,531 Because you guys are friends... right? 357 00:16:30,615 --> 00:16:32,495 [Chloe] Well, we're not even that close anymore. 358 00:16:32,575 --> 00:16:33,576 It's more that... 359 00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:37,413 Okay, if Kevin accused DeMarcus... 360 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:40,082 - [Peter] Okay. - And Kevin was actually the Turd Burglar, 361 00:16:40,166 --> 00:16:41,834 I would have done the same thing. 362 00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:46,380 [Peter] If Chloe is lying about seeing the card in DeMarcus' wallet, 363 00:16:46,464 --> 00:16:49,675 could the fact that DeMarcus didn't have the glitch 364 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:51,677 be enough to prove his innocence? 365 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:54,180 It seems like the Turd Burglar account 366 00:16:54,263 --> 00:16:56,599 couldn't have been run through DeMarcus' phone. 367 00:16:57,099 --> 00:17:00,811 But there's plenty of evidence supporting Kevin's innocence as well. 368 00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:03,064 We know Kevin pooped himself. 369 00:17:03,356 --> 00:17:06,150 We know he couldn't have bought maltitol from Dawsey's. 370 00:17:06,901 --> 00:17:08,736 We also know that, 371 00:17:08,819 --> 00:17:09,904 like DeMarcus, 372 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:12,406 Kevin didn't have the glitch. 373 00:17:12,490 --> 00:17:13,658 I have an Android. 374 00:17:15,117 --> 00:17:16,911 It's the superior machine. 375 00:17:16,994 --> 00:17:19,497 If I wanted to be limited 376 00:17:19,580 --> 00:17:21,958 to only the approved apps 377 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:25,169 available in the iTunes App Store, 378 00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:27,672 I'd buy an iPhone. 379 00:17:28,256 --> 00:17:29,966 The glitch threw us a curve ball. 380 00:17:30,216 --> 00:17:33,261 [Peter] For the first time, I had to ask myself: 381 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:36,764 What if the Turd Burglar wasn't Kevin McLean 382 00:17:36,847 --> 00:17:38,224 or DeMarcus Tillman? 383 00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:40,476 We had to widen our scope. 384 00:17:41,561 --> 00:17:42,979 We know that the Turd Burglar 385 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:45,565 has a working knowledge of the student body, 386 00:17:45,648 --> 00:17:47,358 so that's where we went next. 387 00:17:47,942 --> 00:17:50,403 The student government's anonymous tip box 388 00:17:50,820 --> 00:17:52,905 to see who else could have had a motive, 389 00:17:52,989 --> 00:17:55,032 who else had the iOS glitch, 390 00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:57,493 and who else could be a suspect. 391 00:17:57,994 --> 00:18:00,538 So this tip box is what the student government did, 392 00:18:00,621 --> 00:18:03,040 you know, when it was kind of desperate for anything, 393 00:18:03,124 --> 00:18:05,960 and according to them, a lot of these are incredibly unhelpful. 394 00:18:06,043 --> 00:18:08,462 But I think that there might be some gems in here, 395 00:18:08,546 --> 00:18:11,591 so we're gonna go through these for the rest of the day, 396 00:18:11,674 --> 00:18:13,718 and because of that I have dubbed today, 397 00:18:13,801 --> 00:18:15,052 "Just the Tip Day." 398 00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:19,056 Let's do un-useful and useful. We'll make two piles. 399 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:22,977 [Peter] At first, it seemed like the student government was right. 400 00:18:23,311 --> 00:18:25,104 Most were just crude jokes and drawings. 401 00:18:25,187 --> 00:18:28,899 Yeah, see, this is an example of something that's definitely not useful. 402 00:18:29,233 --> 00:18:30,401 "Your mom poops." 403 00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:33,237 This is the second one for Russell Wilson. Do you know who that is? 404 00:18:33,321 --> 00:18:36,198 Yeah, that's the quarterback for the Seahawks. 405 00:18:36,657 --> 00:18:37,657 Oh. 406 00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:38,951 So, yeah. 407 00:18:39,035 --> 00:18:41,412 There's another Russell Wilson in there, though. 408 00:18:41,746 --> 00:18:44,123 But then we started to see some recurring names, 409 00:18:44,373 --> 00:18:47,376 including four students with five or more mentions. 410 00:18:47,752 --> 00:18:50,254 We crosschecked these names with their social media 411 00:18:50,338 --> 00:18:53,090 to see which of these potential suspects had the glitch. 412 00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:54,216 Three of them did. 413 00:18:54,675 --> 00:18:57,762 Paul Schnorrenberg, Diapey Drew, and Jenna Hawthorne. 414 00:18:57,845 --> 00:19:00,115 We're going to take a closer look into these three people. 415 00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:01,139 We'll start with those. 416 00:19:02,516 --> 00:19:04,143 [applause] 417 00:19:04,226 --> 00:19:06,145 [girl] Drew Pankratz is a nice kid. 418 00:19:06,228 --> 00:19:07,688 He's in all the plays. 419 00:19:09,732 --> 00:19:12,943 He's that sort of dude where, like, all his friends were theater girls. 420 00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:16,280 [boy] He's a theater kid who lives in the friend zone, 421 00:19:16,364 --> 00:19:19,158 and when I got grounded for smoking dabs in my garage, 422 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:21,285 I let him take my girlfriend to Homecoming. 423 00:19:21,369 --> 00:19:24,914 - 'Cause... it's Drew. - [girlfriend] He's like a brother to me. 424 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:27,041 My parents let him sleep over all the time. 425 00:19:27,124 --> 00:19:29,085 Like, I can change in front of him. 426 00:19:29,418 --> 00:19:31,212 That's how asexual the situation is. 427 00:19:31,295 --> 00:19:32,505 The kid is no threat. 428 00:19:33,214 --> 00:19:34,757 Or at least, that's what I thought. 429 00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:37,176 [Tanner] And then the pictures came out. 430 00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:39,595 Somebody posted them on the school message boards. 431 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:41,555 Everybody saw them. 432 00:19:42,598 --> 00:19:43,683 Phew. 433 00:19:43,766 --> 00:19:47,978 There were picture leaks of him in, like, diapers, with baby bottles. 434 00:19:48,062 --> 00:19:50,398 I'm not sure if it's some sort of weird fetish. 435 00:19:50,481 --> 00:19:52,566 I just really want to know who it was for. 436 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:56,153 [guy] Honestly, I thought he might be gay, and then I saw those pictures. 437 00:19:56,445 --> 00:19:58,165 I guess... I don't know, I still don't know. 438 00:19:58,239 --> 00:20:00,366 [Drew] I was pushing myself as an actor. 439 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:02,576 It was just a diaper. 440 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,578 Just for a character, you know? 441 00:20:04,662 --> 00:20:07,456 It wasn't some kink like everyone's saying. 442 00:20:07,707 --> 00:20:09,709 [girl] I mean, I felt bad, because... 443 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:12,086 Drew's the nicest guy ever. 444 00:20:12,336 --> 00:20:14,839 Honestly, I made it the background on my phone. 445 00:20:15,423 --> 00:20:17,133 But those pictures were really funny. 446 00:20:17,842 --> 00:20:20,261 [Tanner] When all the Turd Burglar stuff started happening, 447 00:20:21,011 --> 00:20:24,432 I was like, "That's Drew getting back at us for all the diaper stuff." 448 00:20:24,515 --> 00:20:26,600 And honestly, I wouldn't blame him. 449 00:20:26,684 --> 00:20:29,729 - [applause, chanting] ♪ Diapey Drew! ♪ - [Drew] I'm not the Turd Burglar. 450 00:20:30,771 --> 00:20:32,648 I just want people to leave me alone. 451 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:35,359 [Peter] Do you think that it's possible that Drew Pankratz 452 00:20:35,443 --> 00:20:37,695 - could be the Turd Burglar? - No. 453 00:20:37,778 --> 00:20:40,740 Drew Pankratz has a potentially strong motive. 454 00:20:41,282 --> 00:20:42,783 And he had the glitch. 455 00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:44,827 But he also has an alibi. 456 00:20:44,910 --> 00:20:48,038 I know Drew Pankratz isn't the Turd Burglar, it's impossible. 457 00:20:49,206 --> 00:20:52,418 During the fire drill, the one where the lemonade was contaminated, 458 00:20:52,501 --> 00:20:56,213 he was here with me, in the library. He's always reading, 459 00:20:56,297 --> 00:20:58,424 and I'm one of the only people he talks to anymore. 460 00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:01,177 I knew it was a drill, so I just stayed here and let him read. 461 00:21:01,719 --> 00:21:04,346 For that matter, he was here during the pep rally too. 462 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:07,558 Once those diaper pictures hit, with the bottle, he just... [inhales] 463 00:21:08,142 --> 00:21:10,811 He hasn't been the same and he couldn't face the whole school. 464 00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:13,606 What these kids are doing is pretty awful. 465 00:21:14,231 --> 00:21:17,485 [Peter] With limited opportunity and the librarian vouching for him, 466 00:21:18,068 --> 00:21:20,154 Diapey Drew passed our sniff test. 467 00:21:22,448 --> 00:21:25,088 [boy] A lot of kids at this school have a house as nice as Jenna's, 468 00:21:25,159 --> 00:21:26,619 or a car as expensive as hers. 469 00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:30,164 Not everybody has a library named after them. 470 00:21:30,623 --> 00:21:31,832 That's fuck-you money. 471 00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:35,878 [Kevin] I don't trust anyone that rich. 472 00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:39,548 People with that kind of wealth think that rules don't apply to them, 473 00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:42,760 and they, frankly, probably don't. 474 00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:44,678 Jenna's Instagram was perfect. 475 00:21:44,762 --> 00:21:47,014 Like, she was traveling with her girlfriend, 476 00:21:47,097 --> 00:21:50,643 taking pictures of them kissing at sunset on a yacht in Mykonos. 477 00:21:51,018 --> 00:21:53,437 Her Instagram was full of pictures that were clearly taken 478 00:21:53,521 --> 00:21:55,272 from professional photographers. 479 00:21:55,523 --> 00:21:56,524 [girl] Jenna easily had 480 00:21:56,607 --> 00:22:00,402 the most obnoxiously perfect Instagram account at this school, 481 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,822 and then she posts this picture 482 00:22:02,905 --> 00:22:05,616 claiming to be best friends with Kendall Jenner. 483 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:09,286 Then someone found the un-cropped version of that picture. 484 00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:14,041 Turns out she was just waiting five hours for a Kendall meet-up. 485 00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:16,043 She was not her best friend. 486 00:22:16,544 --> 00:22:19,672 Obviously it wasn't real. She ended up coming out 487 00:22:19,755 --> 00:22:23,092 that she waited five hours in line for this autograph. 488 00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:27,721 And that doesn't make you her best friend, it kind of makes you a loser. [chuckles] 489 00:22:27,805 --> 00:22:31,100 No, I don't hate the kids here. I just, like... 490 00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:33,853 Honestly, they're not really worth my time. 491 00:22:34,436 --> 00:22:36,772 What she did was pretty lame in my book. Um... 492 00:22:37,773 --> 00:22:40,693 She tried to fake a relationship, like she was friends with Kendall, 493 00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:42,778 when really she just, like, took a fan picture. 494 00:22:42,862 --> 00:22:45,906 I feel like she low-key disrespected everyone 495 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:48,117 who Kendall really has a relationship with, 496 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,994 like her actual family. 497 00:22:50,077 --> 00:22:53,539 Like, Kim, Kourtney, Khloe, um... 498 00:22:53,622 --> 00:22:56,542 Kylie, Kylie baby daddy, the new baby... 499 00:22:56,667 --> 00:22:58,043 um, Tyga... 500 00:22:58,127 --> 00:23:01,505 Ah, all of them, man. The mom, the transgender mom, 501 00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:02,756 the little babies. 502 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,383 Like, she just shouldn't have done it. 503 00:23:04,466 --> 00:23:06,719 She should have just said, "Hey, I met Kendall. 504 00:23:08,178 --> 00:23:09,178 Emoji." 505 00:23:09,972 --> 00:23:12,349 [Peter] Do you sometimes regret posting that picture? 506 00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:14,810 Yeah. I mean... [sighs] 507 00:23:15,436 --> 00:23:17,313 It's just silly because, like, 508 00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:20,608 it was a joke, you know what I mean? It wasn't supposed to... 509 00:23:20,691 --> 00:23:25,070 I see so many people post pictures with, like, celebrities all the time, 510 00:23:25,154 --> 00:23:26,154 so, like, 511 00:23:26,447 --> 00:23:28,198 maybe it's just because, like, 512 00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:31,702 there's a certain attitude about me at this school... 513 00:23:32,995 --> 00:23:36,832 that people just got jealous or something and blew it way out of proportion. 514 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:38,500 So, yeah. 515 00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:40,252 [girl] I hate to admit it, 516 00:23:40,878 --> 00:23:43,047 but it's kind of fun 517 00:23:43,547 --> 00:23:45,925 watching someone so perfect fall from the top. 518 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,385 [Peter] And it's a long way to fall. 519 00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,971 In a school full of affluent families, 520 00:23:51,221 --> 00:23:53,307 the Hawthorne family is the wealthiest. 521 00:23:53,849 --> 00:23:55,392 In 2017, 522 00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:58,562 Nicro, a chemical company owned by her parents, 523 00:23:58,646 --> 00:24:01,065 brought in over US$ 6 billion in sales. 524 00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:03,609 So, Jenna's family's company Nicro 525 00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:05,903 releases an annual product revenue report, 526 00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:07,905 and look at one of the products is. 527 00:24:08,989 --> 00:24:10,366 [Sam] Maltitol. 528 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:12,868 - Really? - Industrial quantities of it. 529 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:13,994 [Sam laughing] What? 530 00:24:14,078 --> 00:24:18,290 But she does intern there, so maybe Nicro actually gives her an alibi. 531 00:24:18,999 --> 00:24:20,292 Jenna's internship? 532 00:24:21,418 --> 00:24:23,712 Yeah, that's a perk not even my family can afford. 533 00:24:23,796 --> 00:24:26,924 While the rest of us are working hard, Jenna gets 4.0's is on her transcripts 534 00:24:27,007 --> 00:24:28,007 for leaving early. 535 00:24:28,384 --> 00:24:32,429 So, Jenna claims that she goes to an internship a few times a week. 536 00:24:32,513 --> 00:24:34,473 Is that correct from your understanding? 537 00:24:34,556 --> 00:24:35,432 Yes. 538 00:24:35,516 --> 00:24:38,060 Nicro, her family company, the chemical company. 539 00:24:38,352 --> 00:24:40,813 But I can double check if you want to see the exact dates. 540 00:24:40,896 --> 00:24:42,106 Yeah, that'd be great. 541 00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:45,526 - Jenna... Hawthorne... - [keyboard clattering] 542 00:24:46,276 --> 00:24:47,486 Okay, here we are. 543 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:50,864 Yes, every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, 544 00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:53,117 she signs out with us at 11 a.m., 545 00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:56,453 and then every Friday we get a record of her internship hours, 546 00:24:56,537 --> 00:24:58,455 and then we just add it to her transcript. 547 00:24:58,539 --> 00:25:00,124 Do you mind if I see her hours 548 00:25:00,207 --> 00:25:02,459 for the second and third week in November? Perfect 549 00:25:02,543 --> 00:25:05,504 This means Jenna wasn't even at St. Bernardine 550 00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:07,798 during the critical fire alarm before the Brownout, 551 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:11,176 or right before the pep rally to load the Shit Launchers, 552 00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:14,346 and the school has the documentation to prove it. 553 00:25:14,888 --> 00:25:17,099 Another student with a strong motive, 554 00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:19,268 but an equally strong alibi. 555 00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:24,440 There are a lot of very religious... 556 00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:27,234 students at St. Bernardine, 557 00:25:27,317 --> 00:25:32,448 but none are Paul Schnorrenberg-level religious. 558 00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:35,773 [Paul] I think it's very funny, 559 00:25:35,826 --> 00:25:39,038 like, how some of my teachers, in my Catholic school, 560 00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:42,166 talk about their "interpretations" of God's words. 561 00:25:42,249 --> 00:25:44,501 Well, this is a Catholic school, 562 00:25:44,835 --> 00:25:47,379 but Paul does go a bit overboard. 563 00:25:48,047 --> 00:25:49,131 It's God's words! 564 00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:51,341 He wrote them for us. It's right here. 565 00:25:51,425 --> 00:25:54,303 Even Jesus would tell Paul to take it down a notch. 566 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:55,888 Jesus Boy, yeah. 567 00:25:56,263 --> 00:25:58,265 Yo, I respect that kid. 568 00:25:58,348 --> 00:26:00,976 He put in a lot of hours, a lot of hard work into, 569 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:03,520 you know, like, God stuff, the same way I do on the court, 570 00:26:03,604 --> 00:26:06,106 so I gotta take my hat off to him, 'cause... 571 00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:09,943 Like, the Bible is so boring. 572 00:26:10,027 --> 00:26:11,904 Like, no disrespect. It's just like... 573 00:26:12,988 --> 00:26:14,615 I don't know, when you start reading it, 574 00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:16,366 you naturally start falling asleep, 575 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:19,912 but Paul, yo, he thug through it, he read that Bible. 576 00:26:20,537 --> 00:26:23,499 So, I gotta respect him. Nah mean? 577 00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:25,834 Premarital sex is a sin. 578 00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:29,963 Sex is sex, no matter what, under God's eyes. 579 00:26:30,547 --> 00:26:32,007 [man] Let's take a deep breath. 580 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,843 [Mascot Boy] Before Kevin confessed, that was my best theory. 581 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,054 You know, it was Paul's way of getting back 582 00:26:37,137 --> 00:26:39,807 and punishing his classmates who he thought were, like, sinners. 583 00:26:40,224 --> 00:26:43,811 [Paul] God was protecting some of us from the plagues of the Turd Burglar 584 00:26:43,894 --> 00:26:45,437 while punishing others. 585 00:26:45,521 --> 00:26:48,816 [Peter] A couple of small digital clues support the idea 586 00:26:48,899 --> 00:26:51,568 that Paul was behind this poop Judgment Day. 587 00:26:52,069 --> 00:26:54,321 For example, like the Turd Burglar, 588 00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:57,616 Paul uses periods after emojis. 589 00:26:57,699 --> 00:26:59,326 If you look through Paul's Instagram, 590 00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:03,163 he uses periods after emojis in, like, a lot of his posts. 591 00:27:03,247 --> 00:27:07,376 One, two, three, four, five, 592 00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:10,462 six, six times in 17 posts. 593 00:27:10,546 --> 00:27:11,421 That's weird. 594 00:27:11,505 --> 00:27:13,757 And you also have to remember the Bible verse... 595 00:27:13,841 --> 00:27:15,050 That really is weird. 596 00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:16,385 Periods after emojis? 597 00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:18,548 - That's, like, serial killer weird. - [Peter] Right. 598 00:27:18,595 --> 00:27:22,266 And you have to remember the Bible verse that the Turd Burglar referenced: 599 00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:24,476 "Thou shalt have great disease of thy bowels 600 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,270 until thy bowels fall out." 601 00:27:26,353 --> 00:27:27,646 - [Sam] Right. - Think about it. 602 00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:30,274 [Sam] A normal Catholic school student wouldn't know that. 603 00:27:30,357 --> 00:27:33,527 You'd have to be Schnorrenberg Catholic. 604 00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:35,696 Premarital sex is a sin. 605 00:27:36,238 --> 00:27:37,656 [Peter] There's a motive, 606 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:41,243 there are small digital clues connecting him to the Turd Burglar, 607 00:27:41,326 --> 00:27:43,287 and there's even a target. 608 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:45,330 Paul hates Montgomery. He hates her. 609 00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:47,791 [Paul] This book describes oral sex! 610 00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:50,043 You may as well send us all pornography websites! 611 00:27:50,127 --> 00:27:53,755 You know, if Kurt Vonnegut was alive, I think he'd be pleased with this. 612 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:55,382 Are you out of your mind? 613 00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:57,926 Sometimes I can get frustrated with Ms. Montgomery. 614 00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:01,096 What is the difference? Under God's eyes, what is the difference? 615 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,973 Maybe it's not so much about oral sex, 616 00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:04,976 maybe it's about what it represents in this book. 617 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:07,311 - You are ridiculous, Ms. Montgomery. - Ridiculous? 618 00:28:07,394 --> 00:28:09,021 Yes, I like to be ridiculous. 619 00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:11,440 But I would never intentionally cover anyone in poop. 620 00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:16,695 [thud, screaming] 621 00:28:16,987 --> 00:28:18,447 [Peter] But his potential target... 622 00:28:19,114 --> 00:28:20,490 is also his alibi. 623 00:28:20,741 --> 00:28:23,118 No, I don't think any of my kids could have done this, 624 00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:24,494 especially Paul. 625 00:28:24,786 --> 00:28:26,079 I think it was a mistake. 626 00:28:26,163 --> 00:28:28,081 [screaming] 627 00:28:28,165 --> 00:28:30,417 I happen to know Paul isn't the Turd Burglar. 628 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,295 He couldn't have done that horrible thing with the T-shirt launcher 629 00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,506 because I was with him at the time. We were having one of our... 630 00:28:37,507 --> 00:28:40,260 spirited debates. We were talking about the Pope. 631 00:28:40,344 --> 00:28:43,305 He thinks the Pope's too radical and I think he's kinda cool. 632 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:45,974 He even switched his throne out for a white chair. 633 00:28:46,683 --> 00:28:48,352 I think he's like Bernie Sanders. 634 00:28:48,435 --> 00:28:51,355 Anyway, we were talking about it right up until the pep rally, 635 00:28:51,438 --> 00:28:53,148 so I know he didn't do it. 636 00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:54,691 [clapping] 637 00:28:54,775 --> 00:28:58,862 Starting point guard, Lou Carter! 638 00:28:58,946 --> 00:28:59,947 [crowd whooping] 639 00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:01,740 [Paul] Our interview in Montgomery's office 640 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:03,659 seemed to play out in a familiar fashion: 641 00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:08,372 An alibi vouching for someone that we considered promising suspect. 642 00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:12,834 But Ms. Montgomery inviting us into her office was far from a dead-end, 643 00:29:13,543 --> 00:29:16,296 because something even more important in the next room... 644 00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:17,482 - Excuse me. - Take your time. 645 00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:18,715 ...caught Sam's eye. 646 00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:23,303 - [Sam] Did you see that? - What? 647 00:29:23,387 --> 00:29:25,305 - See what? - [Sam] Uh, hold on. 648 00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:27,742 - [Peter] Dude, what are you doing? - Just let me do my thing. 649 00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:29,685 - [Peter] No... - Shut up! 650 00:29:30,352 --> 00:29:32,705 [Sam] Hey, Ms. Montgomery, you forgot your phone back there. 651 00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:34,729 [woman] Students are not allowed in this room, Sam. 652 00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,317 [Sam] Sorry, I wanted to make sure she had her phone. 653 00:29:37,401 --> 00:29:39,903 - No, I have my phone. - [Sam] So... [laughs] 654 00:29:39,987 --> 00:29:41,405 - [woman] Out. - This is my phone! 655 00:29:41,488 --> 00:29:44,199 Oh my God, I'm so silly. Sorry. That's so embarrassing. 656 00:29:45,284 --> 00:29:48,078 [Peter] Remember the Turd Burglar's final post? 657 00:29:48,161 --> 00:29:51,081 The December 4th post of a random advent calendar 658 00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:52,666 that we thought was a warning? 659 00:29:52,749 --> 00:29:56,003 These are warning posts. Whoever posted these thought 660 00:29:56,086 --> 00:29:58,086 they'd be able to pull off a crime and then failed. 661 00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:02,301 Well, this may not be a random advent calendar after all. 662 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:05,012 From Ms. Montgomery's connecting office, 663 00:30:05,095 --> 00:30:08,348 Sam saw an identical calendar in the faculty lounge, 664 00:30:08,724 --> 00:30:10,225 which could be important. 665 00:30:10,726 --> 00:30:14,730 The Turd Burglar brags about every crime with an aftermath post. 666 00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:19,693 The lemonade dispenser, the piñata, the T-shirt launchers... 667 00:30:19,776 --> 00:30:22,446 We call them "delivery devices." 668 00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:26,491 So what if the Turd Burglar didn't post the advent calendar 669 00:30:26,575 --> 00:30:27,993 to warn of a future crime, 670 00:30:28,744 --> 00:30:30,996 but to brag about a completed one? 671 00:30:31,621 --> 00:30:35,917 What if Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo was the warning post 672 00:30:36,251 --> 00:30:39,504 and the advent calendar was the delivery device? 673 00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:43,050 What if there was a fourth poop crime? 674 00:30:44,426 --> 00:30:46,345 It would change everything. 675 00:30:46,887 --> 00:30:50,682 Proof of a fourth poop crime after Kevin was put on house arrest 676 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,226 would expose the school's lies. 677 00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:56,938 It would shatter the prosecution's narrative. 678 00:30:57,397 --> 00:30:59,316 Proof of a fourth poop crime 679 00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:01,526 would mean that Kevin McClain 680 00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:03,153 is innocent.