0 00:00:00,010 --> 00:00:01,260 What's up? 1 00:00:01,260 --> 00:00:03,500 I know him. It's that bloke I tasered. 2 00:00:03,549 --> 00:00:06,500 - They let him out on bail yesterday. - Look what they've done to Daryl. 3 00:00:06,549 --> 00:00:10,779 - This is the lads you let off with a caution. - Come on through, I'm gonna nip this in the bud. 4 00:00:10,830 --> 00:00:12,820 - I will scream. - You shouldn't have done it! 5 00:00:12,869 --> 00:00:14,859 We've got a bit of a weirdo doing the rounds. 6 00:00:14,910 --> 00:00:17,539 He's killed three girls. You need to be aware, all right? 7 00:00:17,589 --> 00:00:19,179 - Leonie, are you listening? - Yeah. 8 00:00:19,230 --> 00:00:23,579 - Are we looking at the same killer? - Yeah. Not as frenzied. But, yeah. 9 00:00:23,629 --> 00:00:25,780 You killed my mother, you filthy bitch! 10 00:00:25,829 --> 00:00:28,019 You're going to get what's coming to you! 11 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:31,010 - Do you want to go for a drink sometime? - OK. 12 00:00:32,629 --> 00:00:34,060 She is poison. 13 00:00:34,109 --> 00:00:36,100 She needs putting out of her misery, that one. 14 00:00:36,149 --> 00:00:39,909 I know we try not to have nasty thoughts, Frances, but... 15 00:00:56,630 --> 00:01:00,259 - It's very good of you to turn out in the middle of the night. - It's fine. 16 00:01:00,310 --> 00:01:03,780 It's just... those other two didn't seem to take it seriously at all. 17 00:01:03,829 --> 00:01:06,620 She's here, love. And they were both women. 18 00:01:06,670 --> 00:01:10,340 They're Specials, part-timers, If it's who I think it is. 19 00:01:10,390 --> 00:01:12,739 Course, my first thought when she rang me was, 20 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:14,099 "Well, what if it's him?" 21 00:01:14,150 --> 00:01:17,219 So why weren't they thinking the same thing? 22 00:01:17,269 --> 00:01:19,420 Well, God knows. 23 00:01:19,469 --> 00:01:21,069 Hello, Leonie. 24 00:01:22,469 --> 00:01:24,060 He would have strangled her, 25 00:01:24,109 --> 00:01:25,819 if she hadn't managed to raise the alarm, 26 00:01:25,870 --> 00:01:28,260 and if this other lass hadn't been just round the corner. 27 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:30,180 Tell me about this other lass. 28 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:33,539 Kelsey. She just lives up the road. I can give you her number. 29 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:35,099 It was her that rang 999. 30 00:01:35,150 --> 00:01:38,859 Have you got something I can write with? 31 00:01:38,909 --> 00:01:41,420 Leonie, listen, love, listen to me. 32 00:01:41,469 --> 00:01:44,620 You're doing really well, you're being really brave. 33 00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:50,740 So what's going to happen now is I'm going to take a few details... 34 00:01:50,789 --> 00:01:53,020 - Will this do? - Ta. 35 00:01:53,069 --> 00:01:56,060 .. and then I'm going to take you down to the station with me. 36 00:01:56,109 --> 00:01:58,780 You need to make a statement. 37 00:01:58,829 --> 00:02:01,540 Leonie, look at me. 38 00:02:01,590 --> 00:02:05,700 Annette can come with us if you like. Would you like that? 39 00:02:05,750 --> 00:02:09,340 One of the officers... One of the other officers, I can't do it, 40 00:02:09,389 --> 00:02:12,740 because I'm not on duty, but it'll be a woman, it won't be a man, 41 00:02:12,789 --> 00:02:16,379 she'll need to go through the early evidence kit with you... 42 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:18,740 That's like your swabs and everything. 43 00:02:18,789 --> 00:02:20,620 .. and then we'll take you over to Bradford. 44 00:02:20,670 --> 00:02:23,780 There's a proper unit there, where they can look after you 45 00:02:23,829 --> 00:02:26,780 and someone'll see to you, a doctor. 46 00:02:26,829 --> 00:02:30,379 They'll make sure that you're safe and you're comfortable. 47 00:02:30,430 --> 00:02:32,819 I've sat her on a plastic bag and then... 48 00:02:32,870 --> 00:02:34,870 I'm thinking evidence. 49 00:02:37,069 --> 00:02:39,860 Can you talk me through what's happened? 50 00:02:39,909 --> 00:02:42,110 I need to hear it from Leonie. 51 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:45,789 Just... 52 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:49,710 I were on Stoney Royd Lane... 53 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:54,430 .. and there were three of us. 54 00:02:55,829 --> 00:02:58,379 And he come along in his van. 55 00:02:58,430 --> 00:03:01,419 And I said, I told him... 56 00:03:01,469 --> 00:03:03,620 "It's £5 with, and without, it's double." 57 00:03:03,669 --> 00:03:05,139 So he knew. 58 00:03:06,069 --> 00:03:08,659 And he said he were fine with that, 59 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:13,020 so I got in and we went down to the cricket club, 60 00:03:13,069 --> 00:03:14,710 the car park. 61 00:03:15,949 --> 00:03:19,629 - He stank, he'd been drinking. - They all do. 62 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:24,860 And then when he gets going, he decides he wants to do it without. 63 00:03:24,909 --> 00:03:27,180 They do that. 64 00:03:27,229 --> 00:03:30,750 So I said, "You have to pay me up front." 65 00:03:33,069 --> 00:03:36,460 And he goes, "I'll pay you after," but they only ever say that 66 00:03:36,509 --> 00:03:38,870 when they haven't enough. 67 00:03:40,469 --> 00:03:43,139 I said, "Well, it's not happening, then." 68 00:03:45,829 --> 00:03:49,829 But... you know... And I couldn't stop him. 69 00:03:52,909 --> 00:03:55,949 I was struggling but then he had his hand on my throat. 70 00:03:59,509 --> 00:04:02,819 He's pressing down on me, he's inside me without a condom 71 00:04:02,870 --> 00:04:04,669 and I can't breathe. 72 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:10,979 And he's a big fella and I can feel meself going red in t'face. 73 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:14,460 And he goes, "If you don't stop wriggling, I'm going to shove 74 00:04:14,509 --> 00:04:16,300 "a broken bottle up you." 75 00:04:16,349 --> 00:04:19,990 Oh... Did he indeed? 76 00:04:26,790 --> 00:04:31,139 God knows how, I managed to press my stiletto into t'steering wheel 77 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:33,420 and it were more by luck than management, 78 00:04:33,470 --> 00:04:35,540 but it made the horn go... 79 00:04:36,509 --> 00:04:38,850 .. and that shocked the bastard. 80 00:04:40,470 --> 00:04:41,939 Shocked me. 81 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:48,060 Then... he smacked me in the face and he's spitting and 82 00:04:48,110 --> 00:04:51,379 calling me all the usual, and he's going, "Get out, get out!" 83 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:54,060 - like nasty, and... - And that's when Kelsey turned up. 84 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:56,699 She offered to go to t'hospital with her but these two... 85 00:04:56,750 --> 00:04:58,860 And he's just driven off, then, or what? 86 00:04:58,909 --> 00:05:01,060 Yeah, when Kelsey started banging on t'window. 87 00:05:01,110 --> 00:05:05,060 These two uniforms, or specials, whatever, they're saying, 88 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:07,660 "No, we're not going to take you, we'll take her 89 00:05:07,709 --> 00:05:10,110 "because we're not a taxi service." 90 00:05:11,310 --> 00:05:13,620 - Did you tell them what he'd said to you? - They didn't ask. 91 00:05:13,670 --> 00:05:16,139 They didn't take a statement, they didn't write owt down. 92 00:05:16,189 --> 00:05:17,540 Basically they're saying, 93 00:05:17,589 --> 00:05:20,889 "Oh, right, love, has he not paid you, then? Boo-hoo." 94 00:05:21,949 --> 00:05:26,139 So did either of you... of you or Kelsey recognise him? 95 00:05:26,189 --> 00:05:28,730 Is he someone you've been with before? 96 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:32,019 No, but she's got his number. 97 00:05:32,069 --> 00:05:34,470 His registration number. Show her. 98 00:05:40,350 --> 00:05:42,500 What sort of vehicle did you say it was? 99 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:44,550 - A white van. - A van. 100 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:51,180 I'm going to take a photo of your arm on my phone 101 00:05:51,230 --> 00:05:54,100 and then I'm going to take you down to the station in my car, 102 00:05:54,149 --> 00:05:56,579 it's just outside, 15 yards down the road. 103 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:59,819 - Can you manage that? - It won't be... 104 00:05:59,870 --> 00:06:01,860 It won't be what, love? 105 00:06:01,910 --> 00:06:03,500 Taking swabs. It won't be them two? 106 00:06:03,550 --> 00:06:05,860 It's not going to be those two that just dumped her 107 00:06:05,910 --> 00:06:07,899 on the doorstep at the hospital, and said, 108 00:06:07,949 --> 00:06:09,899 "If you're still insisting in the morning 109 00:06:09,949 --> 00:06:12,740 "you've been raped, come back and report it, then"? 110 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:16,550 No. No, it won't be them two, Leonie. 111 00:06:17,629 --> 00:06:19,829 I'll be dealing with them two. 112 00:06:22,430 --> 00:06:24,259 ♪ There's a tower block overhead 113 00:06:24,310 --> 00:06:26,459 ♪ All you got's your benefits 114 00:06:26,509 --> 00:06:28,779 ♪ And you're barely scraping by 115 00:06:32,110 --> 00:06:34,659 ♪ In this trouble town 116 00:06:34,709 --> 00:06:38,029 ♪ Troubles are found 117 00:06:43,149 --> 00:06:44,540 ♪ Stuck in speed-bump city 118 00:06:44,590 --> 00:06:46,819 ♪ Where the only thing that's pretty 119 00:06:46,870 --> 00:06:49,269 ♪ Is the thought of getting out. ♪ 120 00:07:00,509 --> 00:07:03,699 Oh! You're back. You've been out for a pizza and now you're playing pool. 121 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:06,860 - Hiya, Sarge. - Do you want some? - Shall I tell you what I'VE been doing? 122 00:07:06,910 --> 00:07:09,660 I've just briefed the night crew on an arrest strategy for a fella 123 00:07:09,709 --> 00:07:11,500 that's raped and assaulted a 19-year-old. 124 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:13,259 They've just gone to pick him up just now. 125 00:07:13,310 --> 00:07:15,180 She's gone off to the OPAL Unit in Bradford, 126 00:07:15,230 --> 00:07:17,699 so we can get her properly examined, and now I'm going to wake 127 00:07:17,750 --> 00:07:19,100 Mr Shepherd up and tell him I think 128 00:07:19,149 --> 00:07:21,819 he might want to look at this bloke because he might -- just might -- 129 00:07:21,870 --> 00:07:24,939 - be the twisted little bastard that's been killing prostitutes. - Really? 130 00:07:24,990 --> 00:07:26,980 So what I want to know from you is... Yes, really. 131 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:28,819 What I REALLY want to know from you is, 132 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:31,699 when you were called out to assist her, why you did the absolute 133 00:07:31,750 --> 00:07:34,220 minimum required and why her friend's ringing me at home 134 00:07:34,269 --> 00:07:37,860 at four o'clock in the morning to come out and do your job for you. 135 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:40,579 - We were just... - You dropped her at the hospital doors. 136 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:42,659 You didn't even see her inside. She didn't go in 137 00:07:42,709 --> 00:07:45,180 after you'd left. She was too upset, she was too frightened. 138 00:07:45,230 --> 00:07:48,180 She stood in the cold for an hour-and-a-half, frozen rigid, 139 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:49,779 waiting for a bus to get home. 140 00:07:49,829 --> 00:07:52,740 We were always told to take anything they said with a pinch of salt, 141 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:55,500 and it's been a busy night. We're only just on our meal break 142 00:07:55,550 --> 00:07:58,300 - and we're knocking off in an hour. - "They"? Prostitutes? 143 00:07:58,350 --> 00:08:00,659 We're talking about a vulnerable 19-year-old. 144 00:08:00,709 --> 00:08:02,779 Her face was bruised, her neck was bruised. 145 00:08:02,829 --> 00:08:04,699 - That ain't someone crying wolf. - It was dark. 146 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:07,220 You didn't even take a statement. I'm just ignoring that. 147 00:08:07,269 --> 00:08:10,209 No, I'm not. You've got a torch, haven't you?! 148 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:13,220 I've had a go at the night sergeant for sending 149 00:08:13,269 --> 00:08:16,019 a couple of hobby-bobbies out on a job that needed somebody with 150 00:08:16,069 --> 00:08:18,420 the proper skill set and a bit more wool on their backs. 151 00:08:18,470 --> 00:08:20,860 And I know it's been a busy night but, for God's sakes, 152 00:08:20,910 --> 00:08:23,259 there's somebody out there targeting prostitutes. 153 00:08:23,310 --> 00:08:24,300 Did you not think? 154 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:27,740 You know, you lot, you come in and you give us four hours a week, 155 00:08:27,790 --> 00:08:29,740 if we're lucky. If you can be bothered. 156 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:32,180 The least you could do when you get here is engage. 157 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:34,070 I'm sorry, Sergeant. 158 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:38,419 Right. I'm going home for 40 minutes 159 00:08:38,470 --> 00:08:40,220 to say happy birthday to my grandson, 160 00:08:40,269 --> 00:08:43,340 get changed, then straight back here in time for the eight o'clock shift. 161 00:08:43,389 --> 00:08:45,899 I'm not reporting you to professional standards, 162 00:08:45,950 --> 00:08:48,100 although God knows why -- I should be doing. 163 00:08:48,149 --> 00:08:50,820 But, please, just learn something from it. 164 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:53,740 You'll need to make statements. Both of you. 165 00:09:50,750 --> 00:09:52,539 Where've you been? 166 00:09:52,590 --> 00:09:54,940 Oh, I got a phone call. This lass got raped. 167 00:09:54,990 --> 00:09:58,340 - What lass? - 19-year-old, down in Sowerby Bridge. 168 00:09:58,389 --> 00:10:00,659 Well, what were the night crew doing? 169 00:10:00,710 --> 00:10:03,669 Oh, it's long, it's complicated. 170 00:10:04,789 --> 00:10:06,580 What you doing up? 171 00:10:06,629 --> 00:10:10,269 Oh, I couldn't sleep. And then I heard you set off. 172 00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:14,580 I thought you'd gone up to Heptonstall 173 00:10:14,629 --> 00:10:16,299 to be with Becky. 174 00:10:17,070 --> 00:10:18,230 No. 175 00:10:21,149 --> 00:10:22,350 No. 176 00:10:24,789 --> 00:10:27,460 I always think about you on his birthday. 177 00:10:28,629 --> 00:10:30,590 I know you do. 178 00:10:31,789 --> 00:10:33,659 We'll get through it. 179 00:10:34,830 --> 00:10:36,100 We'll get through today 180 00:10:36,149 --> 00:10:38,860 and then we'll get through the next few weeks. 181 00:10:38,909 --> 00:10:40,379 And then... 182 00:10:42,990 --> 00:10:44,860 Big smiles. 183 00:10:44,909 --> 00:10:46,509 Big smiles. 184 00:10:47,710 --> 00:10:51,460 ♪ Happy birthday to you. ♪ 185 00:10:51,509 --> 00:10:54,860 - Shut up! Neighbours'll complain. - So what? - Good. 186 00:10:54,909 --> 00:10:56,419 Are you going to open the others? 187 00:10:56,470 --> 00:10:59,419 Or are you just going to spend the rest of your life balancing on that? 188 00:10:59,470 --> 00:11:02,500 - Can I go to school on it? - Uphill? Does that work? - It's not ALL uphill. 189 00:11:02,549 --> 00:11:05,139 No. If you're going in the opposite direction, it's downhill. 190 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:07,100 Stop trying to blind everybody with science. 191 00:11:07,149 --> 00:11:09,620 Going to open your cards? They might be stashed with moolah. 192 00:11:09,669 --> 00:11:12,460 - Who's this from again? - I've no idea, I told you. It was on the doorstep, 193 00:11:12,509 --> 00:11:14,659 - 6:30 this morning. - It's big. I can tell you that much. 194 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:17,019 Let's get ripping, I've got to go to work in five minutes. 195 00:11:17,070 --> 00:11:19,940 - This is from me. - I know what that is. 196 00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:23,379 The sort you asked for. Took me best part of a week to wrap that up 197 00:11:23,429 --> 00:11:25,820 and I got through about 16 rolls of Sellotape. 198 00:11:25,870 --> 00:11:27,220 Who's this one from again, Gran? 199 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:30,789 I've just said, I don't know, it was on the doorstep. 200 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:34,269 Wahey! Rip it! 201 00:11:36,629 --> 00:11:38,299 - Wow. - Blimey! 202 00:11:38,350 --> 00:11:40,700 Oh, my God! Look at that. I think that might be from me. 203 00:11:40,750 --> 00:11:42,419 - Is it? - Yeah, yeah. 204 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:44,820 I got up early specially to go and put it outside. 205 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:47,740 - He's lying. - Actually, I think it might be FOR me. 206 00:11:47,789 --> 00:11:49,379 I think they've put the wrong 207 00:11:49,429 --> 00:11:52,500 name on by mistake. I think they've got our birthdays mixed up. 208 00:11:52,549 --> 00:11:55,580 That's... whoa. Who's it from? 209 00:11:55,629 --> 00:11:57,980 I'm going to start speaking Urdu soon, 210 00:11:58,029 --> 00:12:00,019 then people might understand me better. 211 00:12:00,070 --> 00:12:02,820 - We don't know. - Calm down, dear. 212 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:04,700 Wasn't there a card with it? 213 00:12:04,750 --> 00:12:07,779 No. Not unless next door's cat's had it. 214 00:12:07,830 --> 00:12:10,899 You know, that's about, like, 150 quid's worth of kit, that. 215 00:12:10,950 --> 00:12:13,090 Nevison. Nevison Gallagher. 216 00:12:16,309 --> 00:12:18,820 Sean Balmforth. Date of birth -- 17.11.85. 217 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:20,580 29 years old. 218 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:24,460 Address -- 34 Burley Road, Illingworth. 219 00:12:24,509 --> 00:12:27,659 He's got a string of convictions and he's on the Sex Offender's Register. 220 00:12:27,710 --> 00:12:30,659 Unlawful sexual intercourse with a 14-year-old. 221 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:32,259 That was ten years ago. 222 00:12:32,309 --> 00:12:35,139 His van's been seized in connection with the assault 223 00:12:35,190 --> 00:12:37,100 and rape of this girl in the early hours. 224 00:12:37,149 --> 00:12:40,100 Forensics are across it, I've spoken to the supervisor 225 00:12:40,149 --> 00:12:42,620 and they're aware we're looking at him for other things. 226 00:12:42,669 --> 00:12:44,940 On an initial visual inspection they've told me 227 00:12:44,990 --> 00:12:46,620 they've found rope in the back. 228 00:12:46,669 --> 00:12:49,460 Nylon rope. Three separate lengths. 229 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:52,179 There's also a couple of bags of rubbish in there, containing -- 230 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:54,580 amongst other things -- a number of beer bottles, 231 00:12:54,629 --> 00:12:58,019 some of which are of the same brand as those found at the site where 232 00:12:58,070 --> 00:13:00,820 Ana Vasalescu was found and where Vicky Fleming was found. 233 00:13:00,870 --> 00:13:02,500 So, 234 00:13:02,549 --> 00:13:05,139 once they've charged him over this business this morning 235 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:07,980 we'll step in and see if he'd like to have a conversation with us. 236 00:13:08,029 --> 00:13:10,179 Arresting him? 237 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:12,139 I'll run everything past the CPS 238 00:13:12,190 --> 00:13:15,779 and, depending on what else we dig up between now and then... 239 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:17,700 yeah. We've got reasonable grounds. 240 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:21,460 I've got POLSA going through his house on a Section 18, we'll get 241 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:22,980 his phone back from the OPAL Unit 242 00:13:23,029 --> 00:13:25,139 as soon as they've got what they want from it. 243 00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:28,340 Let's start tracking his movements over the last five months, 244 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:29,460 working backwards. 245 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:32,820 I want to know everything there is to know about this fella. 246 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:35,340 I want a list of all his contacts, his family, his friends, 247 00:13:35,389 --> 00:13:37,820 I want a picture of his daily routine, his lifestyle, 248 00:13:37,870 --> 00:13:39,220 any employment, 249 00:13:39,269 --> 00:13:42,539 any access to other vehicles besides this one we've seized. 250 00:13:42,590 --> 00:13:47,379 Bank details, where's he drawn money out and when? John, Steve, Jodie, 251 00:13:47,429 --> 00:13:49,820 can we talk through an interview strategy in my office 252 00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:53,230 in a minute? John, have you got a second? 253 00:13:55,750 --> 00:13:59,789 Telecoms found your name and number in Vicky Fleming's mobile phone. 254 00:14:03,789 --> 00:14:07,419 Do you know? I had a funny feeling. I wasn't certain. 255 00:14:07,470 --> 00:14:09,139 But... 256 00:14:09,190 --> 00:14:11,139 two years, eighteen months since? 257 00:14:11,190 --> 00:14:13,779 I was working on a fraud investigation up 258 00:14:13,830 --> 00:14:17,700 at the building society and she was... 259 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:19,539 she was the point of contact. 260 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:23,820 So, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd have given her my number. 261 00:14:23,870 --> 00:14:24,860 Blimey. 262 00:14:24,909 --> 00:14:27,620 Mind you, who haven't I given my number to over the years? 263 00:14:27,669 --> 00:14:30,580 I don't think I spoke to her more than once or twice. 264 00:14:30,629 --> 00:14:32,460 You should have said. 265 00:14:32,509 --> 00:14:35,259 I wasn't convinced it was her. 266 00:14:35,309 --> 00:14:38,500 I couldn't have told you her name if you'd been asking me to remember. 267 00:14:38,549 --> 00:14:41,460 Maybe if she'd been working at the building society now 268 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:43,580 it would have rung a bell but... 269 00:14:43,629 --> 00:14:46,860 So that's the only contact you've ever had with her? 270 00:14:46,909 --> 00:14:49,460 Yeah, yeah. 271 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:53,379 OK. Can you make a statement to that effect and then it's covered? 272 00:14:53,429 --> 00:14:56,899 Sure. So do you think this is the fella? 273 00:14:56,950 --> 00:14:58,940 You know as much as me at the minute. 274 00:14:58,990 --> 00:15:03,220 John, is everything all right at home? I keep meaning to ask. 275 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:08,299 Yeah. Well, you know. Slings and arrows. 276 00:15:08,350 --> 00:15:11,419 - Well, you know this door's always open, don't you? - Yeah. 277 00:15:11,470 --> 00:15:13,500 I mean, except when it's shut. 278 00:15:13,549 --> 00:15:15,419 Sure. 279 00:15:15,470 --> 00:15:18,620 Hey, how was your date with your little job-pissed PCSO? 280 00:15:18,669 --> 00:15:21,190 What date? What date? 281 00:15:26,070 --> 00:15:27,460 Ann! 282 00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:29,509 Oh, somebody's in bother. 283 00:15:31,990 --> 00:15:34,220 You all right, love? You're pale. You're quiet. 284 00:15:34,269 --> 00:15:35,779 - I'm fine. - Yeah? 285 00:15:35,830 --> 00:15:38,860 I'm just... I'm wondering if I'm starting with flu. 286 00:15:38,909 --> 00:15:40,620 Right. Well, don't overdo it. 287 00:15:40,669 --> 00:15:44,019 If you start to feel like crap, you need to be at home. Yeah? 288 00:15:44,070 --> 00:15:45,460 Yeah, yeah. 289 00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:47,539 - Your dad knows Sean Balmforth, doesn't he? - Who? 290 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:51,500 This fella we picked up last night. He works for your dad. 291 00:15:51,549 --> 00:15:53,179 Does he? Don't know. 292 00:15:53,230 --> 00:15:56,139 I don't know half the people that work for me dad. 293 00:15:56,190 --> 00:15:58,500 You don't know anything about what he's like, then? 294 00:15:58,549 --> 00:16:01,220 - Ask me dad. - Oh, they'll interview him, that lot. 295 00:16:01,269 --> 00:16:04,769 I just thought you might know him, I was just being nosey. 296 00:16:09,830 --> 00:16:13,100 Ah, my two favourite women in uniform. 297 00:16:13,149 --> 00:16:16,139 No, I'm talking to you. Singing your praises upstairs this morning, 298 00:16:16,190 --> 00:16:18,860 Mr Shepherd -- good old-fashioned police work, 299 00:16:18,909 --> 00:16:20,419 picking up this fella last night. 300 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:23,620 And you, identifying Vicky Fleming last week. 301 00:16:23,669 --> 00:16:26,139 You both made me look really good in there today. Well done. 302 00:16:26,190 --> 00:16:28,860 It's the only reason I do anything is to make you look good, Sir. 303 00:16:28,909 --> 00:16:30,779 And not a hint of sarcasm(!) Oh! As well... 304 00:16:30,830 --> 00:16:34,220 I had a phone call from HMIT last night. Goran Dragovic, 305 00:16:34,269 --> 00:16:36,179 death of. They are now pursuing it as murder, 306 00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:38,940 - not suicide. - Really? - Yup. - Really?! 307 00:16:38,990 --> 00:16:40,740 Is that that fella we found hanged? 308 00:16:40,789 --> 00:16:44,460 Yeah. So, who're they pursuing, then? The Knezevics? 309 00:16:44,509 --> 00:16:45,980 Well, wouldn't that be lovely? 310 00:16:46,029 --> 00:16:48,259 To actually pin something on one of the Knezevics. 311 00:16:48,309 --> 00:16:50,740 They won't have got their own hands mucky, of course. 312 00:16:50,789 --> 00:16:51,940 But, you know... 313 00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:54,820 Anything we can do to disrupt their operations and get that bit closer. 314 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:57,620 Every little helps. Chipping away. 315 00:16:57,669 --> 00:17:00,210 Anyway, yeah, well done, both of you. 316 00:17:02,509 --> 00:17:04,100 Who are the Knezevics? 317 00:17:04,149 --> 00:17:07,059 Oh, they're... You know how New Jersey has the Sopranos? 318 00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:09,700 Well, Halifax has the Knezevics. 319 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:12,220 And they ain't no choirboys either. 320 00:17:12,269 --> 00:17:13,660 How's Ilinka? 321 00:17:13,710 --> 00:17:16,460 Fine. I wish she'd make her mind up to go home, though. 322 00:17:16,509 --> 00:17:19,140 I'm sick of sleeping in that conservatory. 323 00:17:19,190 --> 00:17:20,380 You're mad. 324 00:17:20,430 --> 00:17:23,420 You and your dad, or just your dad, he didn't send our Ryan 325 00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:27,099 a ridiculously expensive birthday present this morning, did he? 326 00:17:27,150 --> 00:17:28,950 Not that I know of. 327 00:17:33,910 --> 00:17:35,619 You do realise it's ten to nine? 328 00:17:35,670 --> 00:17:36,819 No, it's not. 329 00:17:36,869 --> 00:17:39,059 - Ooh! - Are you dropping him off? 330 00:17:39,109 --> 00:17:42,109 Yeah, yeah. Come on, turn it off. Ryan, off. 331 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:47,029 Ryan, Ry... I'm switching it off. 332 00:17:48,549 --> 00:17:50,500 Why do I have to go to school on my birthday? 333 00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:52,339 You're going to be LATE on your birthday. 334 00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:54,980 Come on. You can play with it as much as you want at tea-time. 335 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:57,900 - Have a nice day. - Where's me dinner gone? 336 00:17:59,549 --> 00:18:03,950 - Bye. - Bye. - Bye. - Bye. 337 00:18:37,349 --> 00:18:39,220 What a piece of shit. 338 00:18:53,349 --> 00:18:55,059 - Here he is, look. - Y'all right, Flash? 339 00:18:55,109 --> 00:18:57,299 What were you doing grassing us up to t'police? 340 00:18:57,349 --> 00:18:58,700 We were only having a bit of fun, 341 00:18:58,750 --> 00:19:00,900 no reason to grass us up to the 5-0, is there? 342 00:19:00,950 --> 00:19:03,779 - We're your mates. - The only mates you'll ever have. 343 00:19:03,829 --> 00:19:06,099 - Oops! - Nice trip, love? - Go on, pick your stuff up. 344 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:09,940 He don't say much, does he? You don't say much, Flash. 345 00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:12,819 Yeah, like, how about, "Sorry, lads, sorry for grassing you up to 346 00:19:12,869 --> 00:19:15,660 "the feds, sorry for being such a sad little twat, 347 00:19:15,710 --> 00:19:18,740 "such a sad little mummy's boy twat." 348 00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:21,859 - Is it true you shag your own mother, Flash? - Does he?! 349 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:25,339 He don't want to, like, but she makes him because she's a whore. 350 00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:26,740 I heard he shags sheep. 351 00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:28,900 He does that and all but can't tell t'difference 352 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:31,019 - up there in the dark, eh? - Can you not? Can he not? 353 00:19:31,069 --> 00:19:32,380 Can you not, Flash? 354 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:33,980 Argh! 355 00:19:34,029 --> 00:19:35,980 - What you doing? - You fucking idiot! - Whoa! 356 00:19:36,029 --> 00:19:38,789 Relax, Flash! Put it down! 357 00:19:41,509 --> 00:19:43,180 Just put it down! 358 00:20:00,710 --> 00:20:02,150 Afternoon. 359 00:20:03,630 --> 00:20:05,170 He's in here. 360 00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:16,980 How are you doing there, Daryl? 361 00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:19,380 I don't know what's happened exactly, but... 362 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:22,500 I think Daryl knows why we're here. Don't you, Daryl? 363 00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:25,099 - Hmm? - I know he gets provoked. 364 00:20:25,150 --> 00:20:27,220 They might have all been charged, that lot, 365 00:20:27,269 --> 00:20:29,700 but they're all out on bail -- every one of them -- 366 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:32,740 and he still has to go down there and buy his tobacco and his filters. 367 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:35,700 Let's turn this telly off, Daryl. Come on, this is serious. 368 00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:37,140 If he has done something, 369 00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:38,980 it can't be worse than what they've done to him. 370 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:41,299 So you know what's happened this morning, Daryl? 371 00:20:41,349 --> 00:20:44,420 Yeah? We've had a report you've been involved in an altercation, 372 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:47,140 and you've been to your car and you've pulled out a lump hammer. 373 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:49,140 - Has he? - And you've attacked people 374 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:52,140 and, you know, that's an arrestable offence, isn't it? 375 00:20:52,190 --> 00:20:54,259 Having an offensive weapon in a public place. 376 00:20:54,309 --> 00:20:56,299 - He'd never... - It's all on CCTV. 377 00:20:56,349 --> 00:20:58,740 So, Daryl, I'm arresting you. Do you understand? 378 00:20:58,789 --> 00:21:00,180 You do not have to say anything, 379 00:21:00,230 --> 00:21:02,259 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention 380 00:21:02,309 --> 00:21:04,819 when questioned something which you later rely on in court. 381 00:21:04,869 --> 00:21:06,779 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 382 00:21:06,829 --> 00:21:09,859 - Could you stand up, please? - They start it. Every time. 383 00:21:09,910 --> 00:21:12,740 Yeah, I know, but what's happened has happened now, 384 00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:15,420 and you can put your side of it across when you're interviewed, 385 00:21:15,470 --> 00:21:17,900 so come on, stand up. Let's get it over with for you. 386 00:21:17,950 --> 00:21:19,980 - Where are you taking him? - Halifax. 387 00:21:20,029 --> 00:21:21,740 Shall I follow on in my car? 388 00:21:21,789 --> 00:21:24,220 I wouldn't. You'll only be sat outside for hours waiting. 389 00:21:24,269 --> 00:21:26,740 - He needs someone with him. - You won't be allowed in with him. 390 00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:29,059 - Why? - Because he's under arrest. 391 00:21:29,109 --> 00:21:31,019 Well, how long will he be? 392 00:21:31,069 --> 00:21:33,900 How long is a piece of string? 393 00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:36,259 Well, what am I supposed to do? 394 00:21:36,309 --> 00:21:38,539 I'll get someone to ring you to come and pick him up 395 00:21:38,589 --> 00:21:42,500 when we're done with him. Where's your car keys, Daryl? 396 00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:43,910 Here. 397 00:21:53,630 --> 00:21:56,170 It's on t'floor in the passenger seat. 398 00:22:04,309 --> 00:22:07,500 9242, I've got a 112 for possession of an offensive weapon. 399 00:22:07,549 --> 00:22:10,019 I'm on my way with him. 400 00:22:10,069 --> 00:22:12,259 OK, Sean, you do not have to say anything, 401 00:22:12,309 --> 00:22:14,460 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention now 402 00:22:14,509 --> 00:22:16,339 something which you later rely on in court. 403 00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:18,859 Anything you do say will be given in evidence. 404 00:22:18,910 --> 00:22:22,940 You are charged that on 12th September 2015 in Sowerby Bridge, 405 00:22:22,990 --> 00:22:24,299 that you intentionally 406 00:22:24,349 --> 00:22:26,380 penetrated the vagina of a woman with your penis 407 00:22:26,430 --> 00:22:27,940 when she did not consent 408 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:30,579 and you did not reasonably believe that she was consenting, 409 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:34,740 contrary to section one of the Sexual Offences Act 2003. 410 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:37,859 You are also charged on 12th September 2015, 411 00:22:37,910 --> 00:22:39,180 in Sowerby Bridge, 412 00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:42,140 that you assaulted the same woman, causing her Actual Bodily Harm, 413 00:22:42,190 --> 00:22:43,619 contrary to Section 47 of 414 00:22:43,670 --> 00:22:46,500 the Offences Against The Person Act 1861. 415 00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:49,220 Have you anything you'd like to say? 416 00:22:49,269 --> 00:22:52,230 I paid her. She's a prostitute. 417 00:22:53,230 --> 00:22:55,500 Just wait there for me, please. 418 00:22:59,109 --> 00:23:02,940 Hello, Sean. I'm Detective Inspector Shackleton, HMET, 419 00:23:02,990 --> 00:23:05,579 and I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder 420 00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:10,220 of Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst and Victoria Fleming. 421 00:23:10,269 --> 00:23:12,380 - You what? - You do not have to say anything 422 00:23:12,430 --> 00:23:14,740 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention... 423 00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:15,940 What are you talking about? 424 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:17,900 .. something which you later rely on in court. 425 00:23:17,950 --> 00:23:20,220 - No, no... - Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 426 00:23:20,269 --> 00:23:22,740 - You can't fit me up for everything! - You're going back to 427 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:25,180 - your cell now, Sean... - Do something! Say something! 428 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:27,859 - You're going back to your cell... - I'm not going back in my cell. 429 00:23:27,910 --> 00:23:29,900 - I'm going home! - I'm going to have a conversation 430 00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:32,299 - with your solicitor, OK? - No, it's not O-shitting-K! 431 00:23:32,349 --> 00:23:35,900 I don't know who them people are! Who are they? Who are they? 432 00:23:35,950 --> 00:23:38,940 Who are they?! 433 00:23:38,990 --> 00:23:42,420 This Daryl lad's kicking off downstairs. 434 00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:44,420 He won't have his DNA or his fingerprints done. 435 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:47,059 They thought you might like to have a crack at persuading him 436 00:23:47,109 --> 00:23:48,980 before they force him. 437 00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:55,539 - No, I don't want to! - All right, are you ready? - No! Get away... 438 00:23:55,589 --> 00:23:57,619 Now, then, Daryl, why aren't you co-operating? 439 00:23:57,670 --> 00:24:00,220 You said you were going to deal with them and nip it in the bud. 440 00:24:00,269 --> 00:24:02,460 I shouldn't even be here. 441 00:24:02,509 --> 00:24:04,859 They were arrested and charged and they'll be up in court 442 00:24:04,910 --> 00:24:07,460 in the next few weeks, and I'll go there and speak to them again 443 00:24:07,509 --> 00:24:09,019 but, with the best will in the world, 444 00:24:09,069 --> 00:24:10,259 there's only so much we can do 445 00:24:10,309 --> 00:24:12,420 and, frankly, this silly business doesn't help -- 446 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:15,059 - it just perpetuates the bad feeling. - They're animals. - Yup. 447 00:24:15,109 --> 00:24:18,180 They shouldn't be allowed to walk, allowed to exist, to breathe... 448 00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:19,779 And now you've gone and shattered 449 00:24:19,829 --> 00:24:21,940 one of their collar bones with a lump hammer. 450 00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:24,420 Are you going to let me do this? 451 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:26,140 It doesn't hurt. 452 00:24:45,309 --> 00:24:47,380 We're back! 453 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:49,460 There's a card on the mantelpiece, Ryan! 454 00:24:49,509 --> 00:24:51,450 I found it in that box. 455 00:24:52,990 --> 00:24:54,180 Who's it from? 456 00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:58,259 I didn't open it -- it wasn't addressed to me. 457 00:24:58,309 --> 00:24:59,900 Do you want some tea? 458 00:24:59,950 --> 00:25:01,150 Yeah. 459 00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:06,339 Gran, you race that one and I'll race this one. 460 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:08,660 Are you going to open this card and see who it's from? 461 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:10,819 Cos, whoever it is, I think you need to send them 462 00:25:10,869 --> 00:25:12,660 a note to say a very big thank-you, don't you? 463 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:14,420 Yeah, you open it. 464 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:16,059 It's not addressed to me. 465 00:25:16,109 --> 00:25:17,579 I'm giving you permission. 466 00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:19,380 Come on, hurry up, I'm going to beat you. 467 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:22,619 There's a year's supply of birthday cake in the kitchen, 468 00:25:22,670 --> 00:25:24,670 if anybody's interested. 469 00:25:32,190 --> 00:25:34,380 - Right, get that dismantled, now. - What are you doing? 470 00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:36,180 - What are you doing? - What's up, Catherine? 471 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:39,819 Get it back in the box. In the bin. Straight in the bin! 472 00:25:39,869 --> 00:25:41,940 We can't keep it, I'm sorry. 473 00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:44,859 - Bastard. - Why not? What are you on about? - The bastard. - Oh, my God. 474 00:25:44,910 --> 00:25:47,220 - What's up? - Your granny's right, we can't keep it. 475 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:49,579 What do you mean "we"? It's not yours, it's mine! 476 00:25:49,630 --> 00:25:51,859 Well, it's either him or some nasty bastard 477 00:25:51,910 --> 00:25:54,579 - playing stupid, dumb, little games. - What is? What is? 478 00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:58,190 - It's from your dad. - Yeah, just get a bin bag. - NO! - Sorry. 479 00:25:59,789 --> 00:26:02,380 You can't throw away my things! It's mine! 480 00:26:02,430 --> 00:26:05,059 He's not allowed to have any contact with you. This is illegal. 481 00:26:05,109 --> 00:26:06,579 It's bad, it's wrong, it's evil... 482 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:08,819 - He's trying to mess about with us! - It's a Scalextric! 483 00:26:08,869 --> 00:26:11,019 - Yeah, exactly! - She's mental. 484 00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:13,380 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I am mental. 485 00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:15,259 I am mental when it comes to that bastard. 486 00:26:15,309 --> 00:26:18,460 Look, look, he can't have put it there himself, can he? 487 00:26:18,509 --> 00:26:21,180 - No. No. No... - We'd know about it if he'd escaped. 488 00:26:21,230 --> 00:26:23,140 Yeah, but someone, some, some... 489 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:26,980 - some twisted little git has done it for him. - You're not binning it! 490 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:30,059 - I'll buy you a new one. - I want this one! - No, no, no way. 491 00:26:30,109 --> 00:26:32,579 I'll buy you another one, I'll buy you one exactly like it. 492 00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:34,579 Why? You can't stop him sending me things. 493 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:37,259 No! Ryan! I can! You see, this is the man that terrified you, 494 00:26:37,309 --> 00:26:39,460 that traumatised you, that poured petrol over you, 495 00:26:39,509 --> 00:26:42,140 that put me in hospital for four weeks, 496 00:26:42,190 --> 00:26:44,500 that murdered Kirsten... 497 00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:46,259 See? This is what he wants! 498 00:26:46,309 --> 00:26:49,609 He wants you and me shouting. He wants you to hate me! 499 00:26:58,029 --> 00:27:01,019 So, as you'll understand from the disclosures we've made to 500 00:27:01,069 --> 00:27:02,500 your solicitor, Sean, 501 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:05,900 we are investigating the deaths of four women -- 502 00:27:05,950 --> 00:27:11,660 Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst and Victoria Fleming. 503 00:27:11,710 --> 00:27:14,220 Sean's prepared a statement, if I could read it out. 504 00:27:14,269 --> 00:27:16,900 Oh, please do. 505 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:19,740 "I have been asked to account for my whereabouts at four different 506 00:27:19,789 --> 00:27:21,940 "periods of time across several days. 507 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:25,180 "I cannot, at this moment in time, verify my exact whereabouts 508 00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:28,099 "on any of the dates and times in question, particularly 509 00:27:28,150 --> 00:27:31,900 "the first three, as they are all some considerable time ago, 510 00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:35,259 "but I would like to state clearly that I do not know Ana Vasalescu, 511 00:27:35,309 --> 00:27:39,539 "Aurelia Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst or Victoria Fleming, 512 00:27:39,589 --> 00:27:40,900 "and, to my knowledge, 513 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:44,650 "have never met or come into contact with them in the past." 514 00:27:46,269 --> 00:27:48,460 OK. That's very helpful, Sean, 515 00:27:48,509 --> 00:27:52,380 but we do still need to ask you some questions, OK? 516 00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:53,950 No comment. 517 00:28:03,829 --> 00:28:05,460 I shouldn't have said anything. 518 00:28:05,509 --> 00:28:08,140 I should have just got rid of the card. 519 00:28:08,190 --> 00:28:09,740 He'd never have said anything. 520 00:28:09,789 --> 00:28:12,339 He wasn't the least bit interested in who it was from. 521 00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:14,819 I should have just said Nevison and squared it 522 00:28:14,869 --> 00:28:18,869 with Nevison -- he'd not have minded. He'd have been pleased to help. 523 00:28:20,069 --> 00:28:22,299 You did the right thing. 524 00:28:22,349 --> 00:28:24,890 I think Ryan's realised that himself. 525 00:28:27,549 --> 00:28:30,180 Insidious bastard. Who's he got doing that for him? 526 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:32,220 We don't know, do we? 527 00:28:32,269 --> 00:28:35,829 We don't know that it's not just some random nasty sod. 528 00:28:37,309 --> 00:28:39,859 Well, it's someone who knows us, or else why would they know 529 00:28:39,910 --> 00:28:41,779 when his birthday is? 530 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:47,470 We're going round in circles. 531 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:52,140 Could you not just take it to a charity shop 532 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,579 rather than put it in the bin? 533 00:28:53,630 --> 00:28:57,380 No, I'm taking it to work -- the card, the wrapping, the box. 534 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:59,740 See if I can't persuade Mike to send it all off for 535 00:28:59,789 --> 00:29:02,819 ninhydrin testing -- see if we can't get some fingerprints. 536 00:29:02,869 --> 00:29:05,410 It's a sick trick, whoever's done it. 537 00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:09,500 Never goes away, does it? 538 00:29:09,549 --> 00:29:11,549 He'll never go away. 539 00:29:13,109 --> 00:29:14,779 Everything all right? 540 00:29:14,829 --> 00:29:18,390 He's fine. He wants you to go up and kiss him. 541 00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:26,819 'Currently being questioned 542 00:29:26,869 --> 00:29:29,740 - 'but no charges have been brought as yet...' - Sorry. 543 00:29:29,789 --> 00:29:32,539 - 'This is a huge breakthrough...' - Is she all right? 544 00:29:32,589 --> 00:29:35,779 Yeah. It's just... 545 00:29:35,829 --> 00:29:40,950 you know, such an odd situation we're in with him. 546 00:29:42,750 --> 00:29:46,180 '.. Investigation, that they will bring the offender to justice.' 547 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:48,900 They've got someone for those murders, by the look of it. 548 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:52,220 Yep. Guess who got him arrested. 549 00:29:52,269 --> 00:29:54,380 She didn't? 550 00:29:54,430 --> 00:29:56,460 Have they charged him? 551 00:29:56,509 --> 00:30:00,420 No, not yet. I think they're still questioning him. 552 00:30:00,470 --> 00:30:03,259 'A breakthrough for the detectives working on the spate of murders 553 00:30:03,309 --> 00:30:05,220 'which has shocked the local community...' 554 00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:07,809 You are stopping tonight, aren't you? 555 00:30:28,509 --> 00:30:30,380 I knew Vicky Fleming. 556 00:30:32,390 --> 00:30:33,859 That woman. 557 00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:37,470 - Did you? - Yeah. 558 00:30:38,910 --> 00:30:40,470 Yeah, um... 559 00:30:42,150 --> 00:30:44,660 .. it was her I was having the fling with. 560 00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:47,109 When everything went wrong for me. 561 00:30:47,910 --> 00:30:51,009 I used to work with her up at the building society. 562 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:55,299 What was she like? 563 00:30:55,349 --> 00:30:57,220 - Horrible. - Really? 564 00:30:58,269 --> 00:30:59,710 Really? 565 00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:05,490 Are you all right? 566 00:31:07,789 --> 00:31:10,740 You won't tell Catherine, will you? 567 00:31:12,509 --> 00:31:13,750 No. 568 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:19,589 Um... 569 00:31:21,789 --> 00:31:23,390 Uh... 570 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:43,390 Urgh, I feel nauseated just thinking about it. 571 00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:46,460 I thought I was in love with her. 572 00:31:46,509 --> 00:31:48,500 Well, I was... I was in love with her. 573 00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:50,750 It was just very short-lived. 574 00:31:54,029 --> 00:31:56,170 She... She was like this... 575 00:31:57,390 --> 00:31:59,390 She was very attractive. 576 00:32:00,150 --> 00:32:02,019 But eventually I realised 577 00:32:02,069 --> 00:32:05,009 that s-she was missing something from up here. 578 00:32:06,910 --> 00:32:10,069 She kept going on, wanting me to leave Sue and the kids and... 579 00:32:11,910 --> 00:32:13,509 .. I couldn't. 580 00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:15,549 Which really... 581 00:32:19,349 --> 00:32:22,710 I shouldn't have started it in the first place, I know that. 582 00:32:24,269 --> 00:32:27,579 But I wasn't ready to leave my family for her. 583 00:32:27,630 --> 00:32:33,259 And she kept... she kept pushing and pushing and eventually I said no, 584 00:32:33,309 --> 00:32:35,180 I said no. 585 00:32:35,230 --> 00:32:37,740 If it came to the crunch I'd be stopping with Sue and the kids 586 00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:40,509 and so she... 587 00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:43,509 She blackmailed me. 588 00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:45,900 Blackmailed? 589 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:48,900 Yeah, for a few weeks. 590 00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:53,470 And then I said I wouldn't pay her any more, I couldn't. 591 00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:58,269 She wanted 100 quid a week, every week, or she'd tell Sue. 592 00:32:59,750 --> 00:33:02,339 I managed a few weeks, but then I... 593 00:33:02,390 --> 00:33:05,509 I thought, "I don't want to live like this any more." 594 00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:09,309 So she... 595 00:33:11,589 --> 00:33:13,230 What, she what? 596 00:33:18,670 --> 00:33:20,269 Humiliated me. 597 00:33:28,069 --> 00:33:30,339 So at the minute, he's provided no alibis. 598 00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:31,819 Well, no useful alibis. 599 00:33:31,869 --> 00:33:33,579 We're building up a picture of a loner 600 00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:35,420 with a fairly chaotic sort of lifestyle. 601 00:33:35,470 --> 00:33:37,019 He was working recently as a driver, 602 00:33:37,069 --> 00:33:40,299 but he got sacked for drinking and aggressive behaviour. 603 00:33:40,349 --> 00:33:42,140 The good news this morning from Forensics -- 604 00:33:42,190 --> 00:33:44,579 we've got strands of hair matching that of Ana Vasalescu 605 00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:47,299 found in his van. Now, he's denied knowing Ana, 606 00:33:47,349 --> 00:33:49,700 so let's see what he's got to say about that. 607 00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:52,059 Telecoms -- Lynn Dewhurst's mobile number was found 608 00:33:52,109 --> 00:33:54,779 in his contacts on his phone. Again, he's denied knowing her, 609 00:33:54,829 --> 00:33:57,299 so let's see if he can enlighten us there. 610 00:33:57,349 --> 00:33:59,819 Then ANPR puts him, well, puts his van, 611 00:33:59,869 --> 00:34:01,900 within a mile of where the bodies were found 612 00:34:01,950 --> 00:34:04,700 on the second and fourth murders, Aurelia and Vicky. 613 00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:06,940 We've also got a witness from a house-to-house 614 00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:08,660 reporting seeing a white van in the area 615 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:10,139 around the time Ana was murdered. 616 00:34:10,190 --> 00:34:12,780 There was an appeal in the media for the driver to come forward, 617 00:34:12,829 --> 00:34:15,340 no-one did. A white van was also reported in the vicinity 618 00:34:15,389 --> 00:34:17,539 prior to Vicky Fleming's flat being torched. 619 00:34:17,590 --> 00:34:20,179 So! Let's get back up to Halifax 620 00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:23,869 and see if he's got anything he'd like to share with us today, hm? 621 00:34:26,349 --> 00:34:28,090 Am I overreacting? 622 00:34:29,230 --> 00:34:32,699 He tried to kill you, Catherine. You're not overreacting. 623 00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:34,980 We'll send it all off for fingerprints 624 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:36,900 and I'll ring the prison liaison officer 625 00:34:36,949 --> 00:34:38,460 to talk to someone at Gravesend. 626 00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:40,380 Let's find out who visits him, 627 00:34:40,429 --> 00:34:43,139 who he writes to, who he has phone calls with. 628 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:45,699 If he's behind it, he'll be dealt with. 629 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:47,489 If it's a crank... 630 00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:50,980 .. it's a shame they've got nothing better to do. 631 00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:53,300 Try not to let it get you down. 632 00:34:53,869 --> 00:34:56,739 - It's just this week, it's always... - I know. 633 00:34:56,789 --> 00:35:00,190 - It's bad enough... - I know. - .. without... - I know. 634 00:35:00,869 --> 00:35:02,309 I do know. 635 00:35:06,989 --> 00:35:09,539 Did you have a nice birthday yesterday? 636 00:35:09,590 --> 00:35:11,260 Yeah, it was OK. 637 00:35:12,190 --> 00:35:14,139 What did you get? 638 00:35:14,190 --> 00:35:16,820 Skateboard, elbow pads, 639 00:35:16,869 --> 00:35:18,750 knee pads. 640 00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:22,380 Helmet. 641 00:35:22,429 --> 00:35:24,579 New football. 642 00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:27,460 - 20 quid off me Uncle Daniel. - Yep. 643 00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:30,099 30 quid off me grandad and me Auntie Ros. 644 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:32,340 That's 50 quid. 645 00:35:32,389 --> 00:35:36,739 Winnie across made me a cake, as well as me Auntie Clare. 646 00:35:36,789 --> 00:35:39,789 That's two cakes. 647 00:35:42,789 --> 00:35:46,309 I got a Scalextric, but me granny put it in t'bin. 648 00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:49,469 Why? 649 00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:52,619 Because it were from me dad. 650 00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:54,150 Oh, no. 651 00:35:55,909 --> 00:35:58,500 And how do you feel about that? 652 00:35:58,550 --> 00:36:00,059 I dunno. 653 00:36:00,110 --> 00:36:02,340 I really wanted to play with it, 654 00:36:02,389 --> 00:36:05,139 but I could see how upset she was. 655 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:07,789 Gosh, that must've cost a lot of money. 656 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:11,650 Yeah, me Uncle Daniel said it would have done. 657 00:36:12,389 --> 00:36:13,860 Perhaps, I don't know, 658 00:36:13,909 --> 00:36:16,900 it's his way of trying to tell you all how sorry he is 659 00:36:16,949 --> 00:36:18,750 about what happened. 660 00:36:20,190 --> 00:36:22,739 - Do you think he is? - Well, why else would he send it? 661 00:36:22,789 --> 00:36:25,699 I don't think they get very much money in prison. 662 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:28,550 It must have meant a lot to him to do that. 663 00:36:29,909 --> 00:36:32,659 You know, after that last conversation we had, 664 00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:33,940 I googled your dad. 665 00:36:33,989 --> 00:36:35,980 And I can't believe he was responsible 666 00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:38,780 for half the things he was sent to prison for. 667 00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:40,190 Why? 668 00:36:41,550 --> 00:36:43,949 Because he had such a kind face. 669 00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:52,460 Here you are. 670 00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:53,860 Ta. 671 00:36:53,909 --> 00:36:56,340 I'm just suggesting that it's odd... John? 672 00:36:56,389 --> 00:36:57,940 No, thanks. 673 00:36:57,989 --> 00:37:00,539 .. for someone with such a disorganised lifestyle 674 00:37:00,590 --> 00:37:02,219 who lives in chaos and squalor, 675 00:37:02,269 --> 00:37:05,380 spends half his life pissed out of his tiny fucking skull, 676 00:37:05,429 --> 00:37:07,860 not to leave any DNA on any of the sites. 677 00:37:07,909 --> 00:37:10,820 Are we really believing that this lad is that forensically aware? 678 00:37:10,869 --> 00:37:11,980 And that capable? 679 00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:15,139 You don't know these days. A lonely, little, twisted mind like that 680 00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:18,699 has probably absorbed every episode of CSI they've ever shot. 681 00:37:18,750 --> 00:37:22,780 Well, that aside, boss, what I still can't square is Vicky Fleming. 682 00:37:22,829 --> 00:37:24,500 Vicky was not a prostitute. 683 00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:26,139 There are significant differences, 684 00:37:26,190 --> 00:37:28,579 and we've made this leap, we've made an assumption... 685 00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:30,139 I'm ruling nothing out. 686 00:37:30,190 --> 00:37:32,980 He must have been in that flat. He must have burnt that flat out. 687 00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:36,099 I don't care what the fire service says, it's just... 688 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:37,940 It's too much of a coincidence, what, 689 00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:41,340 to be an oil lamp she's left on? Come on, he was burning evidence 690 00:37:41,389 --> 00:37:43,820 and that is so different from... 691 00:37:43,869 --> 00:37:45,980 Well, that is someone who knows her. 692 00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:49,590 It's personal, right? And the others, they weren't personal. 693 00:37:56,829 --> 00:38:02,380 I need you to explain why, and it's two things we've uncovered -- 694 00:38:02,429 --> 00:38:06,820 yesterday you told us that you'd never met Ana Vasalescu. 695 00:38:06,869 --> 00:38:08,300 Do you remember? 696 00:38:08,349 --> 00:38:10,699 You also told us that no-one else had driven your van 697 00:38:10,750 --> 00:38:13,150 in the last six months. Yeah? 698 00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:16,909 So, Sean... 699 00:38:18,989 --> 00:38:20,860 .. can you tell me what your response is 700 00:38:20,909 --> 00:38:23,300 if I tell you that our forensic people have found strands 701 00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:26,139 of Ana Vasalescu's hair, her DNA, 702 00:38:26,190 --> 00:38:28,150 in your van? 703 00:38:34,909 --> 00:38:36,389 No comment. 704 00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:40,909 Hmm. 705 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:47,179 And yesterday, you told us that you don't know Lynn Dewhurst. 706 00:38:47,230 --> 00:38:48,900 Do you remember? 707 00:38:51,309 --> 00:38:53,139 Could you explain to me why, then, Sean, 708 00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:55,300 you've got Lynn Dewhurst's mobile phone number 709 00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:57,889 in your contacts on your mobile phone? 710 00:38:59,349 --> 00:39:01,019 No... no comment. 711 00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:23,420 When I said "lunch", I had somewhere a bit more salubrious in mind. 712 00:39:23,469 --> 00:39:25,219 I've only got 15 minutes. 713 00:39:25,269 --> 00:39:26,940 How are you? 714 00:39:26,989 --> 00:39:30,420 - How are YOU? - I'm all right. I'll cut to the chase, eh? 715 00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:33,179 Can I have some tea, love? And a fish finger butty. 716 00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:34,659 Are you eating? 717 00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:37,179 Yeah, I'll have the same. Thanks. 718 00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:39,780 It's a bit like speed dating, innit? 719 00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:41,940 Not that I've ever been speed dating. 720 00:39:41,989 --> 00:39:43,940 Or that WE'RE dating, obviously. 721 00:39:43,989 --> 00:39:46,579 - But I've seen it on t'telly. - Tell me about Sean Balmforth. 722 00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:48,300 Oh... 723 00:39:48,349 --> 00:39:49,820 Really? 724 00:39:49,869 --> 00:39:51,900 All day yesterday? Your lot? 725 00:39:51,949 --> 00:39:54,500 Well, best part of two hours, giving it... 726 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:56,019 What do you know? 727 00:39:56,070 --> 00:39:57,820 Nothing. I told 'em. 728 00:39:57,869 --> 00:39:59,659 Except... 729 00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:01,260 I wouldn't put it past him. 730 00:40:01,309 --> 00:40:03,940 Which is a pretty damning thing to say about somebody, innit? 731 00:40:03,989 --> 00:40:06,190 - Really? - Well, God knows. 732 00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:09,579 Helen never gave up on anybody. 733 00:40:09,630 --> 00:40:11,460 Ever. 734 00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:13,780 We condemn the sin, not the sinner. 735 00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:15,300 But Sean... 736 00:40:16,670 --> 00:40:18,409 .. he's a sad lad. 737 00:40:18,909 --> 00:40:22,579 Course, it's nothing to do with me, I'm just being nosey. 738 00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:24,019 How's our Annie getting on? 739 00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:25,699 Really well. 740 00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:28,380 - She's a smart kid. - Good. 741 00:40:28,429 --> 00:40:30,940 - How's things at home? - Oh, good. 742 00:40:30,989 --> 00:40:32,670 - Good. - Yeah. 743 00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:38,210 - Yeah. - She's drinking, isn't she? 744 00:40:40,510 --> 00:40:42,780 Last thing I want to do is get her into trouble. 745 00:40:42,829 --> 00:40:44,340 You won't, not with me. 746 00:40:44,389 --> 00:40:46,260 That's why I rang you. 747 00:40:46,869 --> 00:40:49,699 I don't know why she's started again. 748 00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:52,420 One minute she was all, "I'm going to be a regular, 749 00:40:52,469 --> 00:40:55,260 "I'm going to be detective, I'm going to sail through the ranks." 750 00:40:55,309 --> 00:40:57,619 I thought she'd taken to it like a duck to water. 751 00:40:57,670 --> 00:41:00,059 And she was thrilled to bits when she made that connection 752 00:41:00,110 --> 00:41:01,780 with the Vicky Fleming woman. 753 00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:03,300 And then... 754 00:41:06,469 --> 00:41:08,900 She used to drink a lot, at college. 755 00:41:08,949 --> 00:41:11,889 Daft amount, you know, like they do, students. 756 00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:14,739 She got alcohol poisoning once. 757 00:41:14,789 --> 00:41:16,460 Silly bugger. 758 00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:19,780 But then, when Helen became ill, 759 00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:21,860 she seemed to stop, overnight. 760 00:41:21,909 --> 00:41:23,940 She became very sensible. 761 00:41:23,989 --> 00:41:27,860 All through the illness, even after what happened, 762 00:41:27,909 --> 00:41:30,050 last year, wi' them weirdos. 763 00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:34,070 So I don't know if something's happened at work. 764 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:38,019 - Not that I know of. - Well... 765 00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:40,900 - has somebody upset her? - Have you asked her? 766 00:41:40,949 --> 00:41:43,260 Oh, she doesn't talk to me about stuff. 767 00:41:43,309 --> 00:41:46,789 She might have had a conversation with Helen about it, not me. 768 00:41:47,989 --> 00:41:50,539 Does she drink with other people, or is it...? 769 00:41:50,590 --> 00:41:53,269 No, no, it's all been on her own at home. 770 00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:57,349 OK. 771 00:41:59,590 --> 00:42:02,099 Happens she needs a good night out. 772 00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:06,019 Yeah? Well, we could all do with one o' them, couldn't we? 773 00:42:06,070 --> 00:42:07,739 I'll talk to her. 774 00:42:09,070 --> 00:42:10,809 Are you all right? 775 00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:16,889 It was Ryan's birthday yesterday. 776 00:42:17,550 --> 00:42:20,630 Becky died six weeks after he was born, so, you know... 777 00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:25,710 .. it's just something we have to get through in our house. 778 00:42:29,429 --> 00:42:31,900 I were thinking.... 779 00:42:31,949 --> 00:42:34,489 you know what you told me last night? 780 00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:36,349 Yeah? 781 00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:39,420 I've said I won't say anything to our Catherine, 782 00:42:39,469 --> 00:42:41,860 and I shan't, I've promised, 783 00:42:41,909 --> 00:42:44,420 but don't you think you SHOULD tell the police? 784 00:42:44,469 --> 00:42:47,739 I'm just thinking that whoever... 785 00:42:47,789 --> 00:42:49,940 killed her, 786 00:42:49,989 --> 00:42:52,530 she might have been blackmailing HIM. 787 00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:54,780 But... 788 00:42:54,829 --> 00:42:56,699 isn't this bloke a serial killer? 789 00:42:56,750 --> 00:42:57,860 On the news they're saying 790 00:42:57,909 --> 00:43:00,739 she didn't fit the same profile as the others. 791 00:43:00,789 --> 00:43:02,619 It might be a different killer to the others, 792 00:43:02,670 --> 00:43:05,780 and they need to know that. 793 00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:07,860 Well, the police obviously don't think that. 794 00:43:07,909 --> 00:43:10,179 They've... they've linked them. 795 00:43:11,429 --> 00:43:13,940 And they've got this fella in custody now anyway, so... 796 00:43:13,989 --> 00:43:16,389 Yeah, but what if... What if... 797 00:43:17,429 --> 00:43:19,019 Oh... 798 00:43:19,070 --> 00:43:20,610 I don't know. 799 00:43:22,190 --> 00:43:23,579 Look... 800 00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:25,820 if I went down there and offered them information, 801 00:43:25,869 --> 00:43:28,139 first of all, they'd think I was a crank. 802 00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:30,389 And they'd be laughing at me. 803 00:43:30,869 --> 00:43:33,659 Then I'd have to go through it all. 804 00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:35,849 Again and again and again... 805 00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:42,869 You don't know what that does to me, Clare. 806 00:43:48,110 --> 00:43:49,579 Hiya, love. 807 00:43:52,789 --> 00:43:55,340 Sarge, have you got a minute? 808 00:43:55,389 --> 00:43:57,139 Hello, Steph. 809 00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:58,780 I think that... 810 00:43:58,829 --> 00:44:00,659 I think I've decided that I should resign. 811 00:44:00,710 --> 00:44:02,860 I've spoken to the specials liaison officer. 812 00:44:02,909 --> 00:44:05,340 I don't think you should resign. 813 00:44:05,389 --> 00:44:08,860 - Well, it looks like they're going to charge this bloke. - Does it? 814 00:44:08,909 --> 00:44:10,579 They've had him in custody for two days. 815 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:12,780 I've just heard they're applying to the magistrate 816 00:44:12,829 --> 00:44:13,900 for a three-day lie down. 817 00:44:13,949 --> 00:44:16,059 And I let him slip through my fingers, so yeah. 818 00:44:16,110 --> 00:44:18,780 Steph, how long have you been in the job? 819 00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:22,579 Specials? About six month. 820 00:44:24,269 --> 00:44:26,179 You made a mistake. 821 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:29,780 I suspect you listened to Bryony, who IS a lazy sod, 822 00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:32,909 and whose first and last instinct is to do the minimum. 823 00:44:33,909 --> 00:44:36,739 She's the one who should be offering to resign, not you. 824 00:44:36,789 --> 00:44:38,500 She's been in the job five years 825 00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:41,179 and she knows no more now than she did then. 826 00:44:41,230 --> 00:44:45,260 I suspect you wanted to do more, but you let yourself be led by her. 827 00:44:45,309 --> 00:44:46,510 Yeah? 828 00:44:48,190 --> 00:44:49,900 Go with your own instincts in future, 829 00:44:49,949 --> 00:44:52,260 stick your neck out now and again. 830 00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:53,579 Yeah, Leonie's a prostitute, 831 00:44:53,630 --> 00:44:55,780 but she's also a vulnerable 19-year-old 832 00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:58,929 who is where she is because she's had a shit life. 833 00:45:00,190 --> 00:45:01,730 Don't resign. 834 00:45:02,789 --> 00:45:05,389 I'll be really pissed off if you resign. 835 00:45:20,429 --> 00:45:22,980 Last week, in assembly... 836 00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:26,110 Mrs Beresford was on about forgiveness. 837 00:45:29,869 --> 00:45:31,210 Was she? 838 00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:36,150 She said that we had to find it in our hearts to forgive people things. 839 00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:38,860 Good. 840 00:45:38,909 --> 00:45:41,449 Especially if they say they're sorry. 841 00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:44,260 That's right. 842 00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:46,849 However angry or upset we might feel. 843 00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:51,500 Well, yeah. There you go, eh? 844 00:45:51,550 --> 00:45:56,340 So I was thinking, maybe it was his way of trying to say sorry 845 00:45:56,389 --> 00:46:00,630 for what he did, sending me that Scalextric, me dad. 846 00:46:03,070 --> 00:46:06,340 Ryan, you've got to stop calling him your dad. 847 00:46:06,389 --> 00:46:09,460 You've got to stop thinking about this man as your dad. 848 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:11,710 A dad is someone who's there. 849 00:46:12,789 --> 00:46:14,269 Every day. 850 00:46:15,269 --> 00:46:19,539 Someone who cares about you, who loves you, who helps you, who... 851 00:46:19,590 --> 00:46:21,820 w-who shows you how to... 852 00:46:21,869 --> 00:46:23,900 tie your laces or pump up your tyres, 853 00:46:23,949 --> 00:46:27,860 someone who can take you places, someone who knows who you are. 854 00:46:27,909 --> 00:46:30,860 It's not someone who lies to you about living on a narrow boat 855 00:46:30,909 --> 00:46:32,179 and pours petrol over you 856 00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:35,300 and kicks the living daylights out of your grandmother. 857 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:38,900 But perhaps he would have liked to have done them things with me 858 00:46:38,949 --> 00:46:41,099 - if he hadn't been in prison. - Yeah, but Ryan, 859 00:46:41,150 --> 00:46:44,820 perhaps if he was the kind of man who cared about other people enough, 860 00:46:44,869 --> 00:46:47,969 he'd never have been in prison in the first place. 861 00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:33,019 Amanda! 862 00:47:33,070 --> 00:47:34,389 Ama...! 863 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:42,550 What?! 864 00:47:44,949 --> 00:47:47,139 - Ben, open the door. - Kids, in the other room, come on. 865 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:49,340 - Quick, quick, quick. - He lives here too! 866 00:47:49,389 --> 00:47:50,739 Go in there. Ben... 867 00:47:50,789 --> 00:47:53,099 - Go on, in there. - Where will he go? 868 00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:56,380 He'll be fine, he'll go to his mother's, go in there. Both of you! 869 00:47:56,429 --> 00:47:59,860 - I don't want him not to be here, even if he is a pig. - Amanda! 870 00:47:59,909 --> 00:48:01,909 Go in there, both of you. 871 00:48:07,630 --> 00:48:09,170 Oh, bollocks! 872 00:48:10,909 --> 00:48:12,619 You're upsetting these children! 873 00:48:12,670 --> 00:48:15,300 I'M upsetting 'em?! You're the one that's upsetting them! 874 00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:17,019 You need to leave us alone. 875 00:48:17,070 --> 00:48:19,139 - You need to go away. - Fuck you! 876 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:21,190 - Fuck YOU! - Fuck you! 877 00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:27,429 Come on, let's get you inside. 878 00:48:52,949 --> 00:48:54,300 Hiya. 879 00:48:54,349 --> 00:48:55,500 Hiya. 880 00:48:55,550 --> 00:48:57,289 Are you all right? 881 00:49:02,429 --> 00:49:05,429 I'm sorry that I get wound up about stuff, but... 882 00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:09,019 .. it's only cos I love you and I care about you, 883 00:49:09,070 --> 00:49:10,380 you know that, don't you? 884 00:49:10,429 --> 00:49:11,670 Yup. 885 00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:18,829 Right, come on. 886 00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:38,630 Love you. 887 00:49:41,789 --> 00:49:43,269 I love you. 888 00:49:44,590 --> 00:49:46,739 Night-night. 889 00:49:46,789 --> 00:49:48,659 Night-night. 890 00:50:01,030 --> 00:50:03,619 What's happened to t'front of your car? 891 00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:05,219 I just... 892 00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:06,869 scraped a wall. 893 00:50:10,190 --> 00:50:13,289 I hope you weren't drinking and driving. Were you? 894 00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:17,289 You will get caught, you know, Daryl. 895 00:50:21,150 --> 00:50:23,619 And who's going to pay for that getting fixed? 896 00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:26,619 It's reight, it still goes. 897 00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:29,739 It won't pass its MOT, love, not like that. 898 00:50:29,789 --> 00:50:31,989 And what if you'd hit someone? 899 00:50:42,110 --> 00:50:44,940 - What've you got for me? - I think you'll be pleased. 900 00:50:44,989 --> 00:50:48,230 I didn't, and I told you I wouldn't, do anything illegal. 901 00:50:50,349 --> 00:50:52,980 You're not going to tell me you didn't do owt. 902 00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:54,829 I did do something. 903 00:50:56,909 --> 00:50:58,460 Did you know it was his birthday? 904 00:50:58,510 --> 00:51:00,260 The day before yesterday? 905 00:51:00,309 --> 00:51:03,500 I only found out two days before. 906 00:51:03,550 --> 00:51:05,420 He was... He was ten. 907 00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:08,230 Ten years old. 908 00:51:09,989 --> 00:51:11,539 OK. 909 00:51:11,590 --> 00:51:13,590 So I sent him a present. 910 00:51:15,869 --> 00:51:19,099 I left it on the doorstep with a card inside. 911 00:51:19,150 --> 00:51:20,550 From you. 912 00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:23,659 It was expensive, something I knew he'd like. 913 00:51:23,710 --> 00:51:25,380 Racing cars. And he did. 914 00:51:25,429 --> 00:51:28,219 Of course, she wanted to put it in the bin 915 00:51:28,269 --> 00:51:30,820 when she knew it was from you, and she did put it in the bin, 916 00:51:30,869 --> 00:51:32,820 and, of course, that made him angry and upset. 917 00:51:32,869 --> 00:51:35,210 - How do you know? - He told me. 918 00:51:36,949 --> 00:51:40,050 And it's made him start to ask even more questions. 919 00:51:41,389 --> 00:51:43,940 I suggested to him that you sent it 920 00:51:43,989 --> 00:51:46,219 because you're sorry for what you did. 921 00:51:46,269 --> 00:51:48,699 I think that's a very powerful message. 922 00:51:48,750 --> 00:51:54,699 If we can subtly undermine all the messages she reinforces every day, 923 00:51:54,750 --> 00:51:58,460 it may be a slow process, but if we persist, and we will, 924 00:51:58,510 --> 00:52:01,710 - surely that's better than... - I don't understand. 925 00:52:03,590 --> 00:52:05,349 OK. 926 00:52:07,110 --> 00:52:10,219 Am I...? Am I being thick, 927 00:52:10,269 --> 00:52:13,269 or are you just not getting the fact that there's been a development? 928 00:52:14,949 --> 00:52:18,269 This bitch, this nasty ugly whore. 929 00:52:21,550 --> 00:52:23,389 Sorry, but she... 930 00:52:24,829 --> 00:52:26,769 She's killed my mother. 931 00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:31,869 And you think buying him expensive toys is some sort of solution? 932 00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:35,019 I-I don't know that I can do anything 933 00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:36,940 - about what she did to your mother. - But... 934 00:52:36,989 --> 00:52:40,789 - What I can do with Ryan... - That is what I asked you to do. 935 00:52:43,590 --> 00:52:45,500 It may not have been her. 936 00:52:45,550 --> 00:52:48,139 - They've arrested someone. - I know they've arrested someone. 937 00:52:48,190 --> 00:52:50,730 I saw it on t'news, Frances, so what? 938 00:52:52,110 --> 00:52:53,630 Frances... 939 00:52:56,789 --> 00:52:59,579 .. you're sweet, but you're naive. 940 00:52:59,630 --> 00:53:03,579 She has killed my mother to piss on me, 941 00:53:03,630 --> 00:53:05,300 just cos she can. 942 00:53:06,030 --> 00:53:08,500 Like me living in this shit-hole isn't enough for her. 943 00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:11,059 And she has disguised it by killing them others first, 944 00:53:11,110 --> 00:53:13,699 and now her little police buddies are helping her cover it up 945 00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:16,219 by arresting some no-mates who they can pin anything on. 946 00:53:16,269 --> 00:53:18,340 Do you really believe they could do that? 947 00:53:18,389 --> 00:53:21,059 Oh, I don't know what else to say to you. 948 00:53:22,750 --> 00:53:25,750 You've led a sheltered life, it's not your fault. 949 00:53:26,949 --> 00:53:29,659 It's why you're so good and kind. 950 00:53:29,710 --> 00:53:32,510 It's why you always see the best in people. 951 00:53:33,469 --> 00:53:35,030 Frances... 952 00:53:40,269 --> 00:53:43,019 But some people, and she is one of 'em, 953 00:53:43,070 --> 00:53:46,380 they're craftier than you'd ever give 'em credit for, 954 00:53:46,429 --> 00:53:48,780 and they get themselves into positions of authority 955 00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:51,170 so they can get away with stuff. 956 00:53:54,349 --> 00:53:56,750 I don't know what else to say. I... 957 00:53:57,949 --> 00:53:59,820 I thought you got it. 958 00:54:04,989 --> 00:54:07,380 The priority for me is working towards Ryan 959 00:54:07,429 --> 00:54:10,340 not accepting the demonised version of you that she reinforces... 960 00:54:10,389 --> 00:54:11,699 The best way to achieve that... 961 00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:13,860 I told him I didn't believe you did half of what... 962 00:54:13,909 --> 00:54:16,380 As far as I'm concerned, the best way to achieve that... 963 00:54:16,429 --> 00:54:19,739 - .. he listened, he thought about it, and it sank in. - .. is to remove her. 964 00:54:19,789 --> 00:54:21,460 From the picture. 965 00:54:22,510 --> 00:54:23,659 Reinforce that. 966 00:54:23,710 --> 00:54:27,219 - But what you're suggesting is illegal... - Fuck illegal! 967 00:54:27,269 --> 00:54:30,829 When has doing anything legally got anybody like me anywhere? 968 00:54:33,710 --> 00:54:37,429 Frances, you're going to have to do what I've asked you to do. 969 00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:43,099 Or what I'm thinking is... 970 00:54:45,710 --> 00:54:47,190 .. this... 971 00:54:50,429 --> 00:54:52,099 .. you and me... 972 00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:57,500 .. it's not going to work, I'm sorry. 973 00:54:57,550 --> 00:55:00,619 I thought you understood me. I really did. 974 00:55:00,670 --> 00:55:03,820 I do! I do understand you, don't say that, please. 975 00:55:03,869 --> 00:55:06,059 Please, I understand you better than anyone. 976 00:55:06,110 --> 00:55:09,349 - Do you understand what I'm saying, then? - I... - Nothing is illegal. 977 00:55:13,429 --> 00:55:16,670 It's just a word people use to control other people with. 978 00:55:18,429 --> 00:55:22,340 She has stolen my son and murdered my mother. 979 00:55:22,389 --> 00:55:25,389 That is illegal and nobody has raised an eyebrow. 980 00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:28,500 And believe me, 981 00:55:28,550 --> 00:55:31,139 it is not that lad they've arrested that's killed these women. 982 00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:33,789 Look at him, picture of him, on t'telly. 983 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:36,630 He hasn't got it in him. 984 00:55:38,710 --> 00:55:40,309 Frances... 985 00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:44,619 .. if you're not on my side, who is? 986 00:55:50,510 --> 00:55:52,710 What would you like me to do? 987 00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:57,380 I'd like you to use your imagination. 988 00:55:57,429 --> 00:55:59,900 - I have been doing. - Yeah, you have. 989 00:55:59,949 --> 00:56:01,860 Brilliantly. 990 00:56:01,909 --> 00:56:05,110 I was so impressed, the way you got into that school. 991 00:56:07,150 --> 00:56:08,820 But I need more. 992 00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:12,349 I need you to take it further. 993 00:56:13,469 --> 00:56:15,980 I wasn't anticipating it any more than you were. 994 00:56:16,030 --> 00:56:19,980 I didn't know she'd go out of her way to target my mother, 995 00:56:20,030 --> 00:56:21,500 but she did. 996 00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:25,820 And now they're going to go out of their way to let her walk, 997 00:56:25,869 --> 00:56:27,869 and I can't do anything. 998 00:56:28,869 --> 00:56:30,340 But you can. 999 00:56:32,550 --> 00:56:35,980 If our two hearts do beat as one, 1000 00:56:36,030 --> 00:56:38,429 and I like to think that they do... 1001 00:56:39,909 --> 00:56:42,110 .. then you know what I want. 1002 00:56:45,630 --> 00:56:48,070 You know what I want, Frances. 1003 00:56:50,469 --> 00:56:53,099 ♪ In this trouble town 1004 00:56:53,150 --> 00:56:56,829 ♪ Trouble I've found 1005 00:56:58,829 --> 00:57:01,340 ♪ In this trouble town 1006 00:57:01,389 --> 00:57:04,670 ♪ Word sure gets round 1007 00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:13,219 ♪ Stuck in speed-bump city 1008 00:57:13,269 --> 00:57:15,420 ♪ Where the only thing that's pretty 1009 00:57:15,469 --> 00:57:17,670 ♪ Is the thought of getting out. ♪