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Julia Windischbauer

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Sebastian Koch

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Hais Naver

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Eli ben Horsting, Kon Brill
Mas Bronkhuizen

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A series by Hagai Levy
According to Etty Hilsum's diaries

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with me

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Chapter 5: Springboard to great love

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I am an architect
.but I'm unemployed right now

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?I need to fill in this part

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.Yes, that's right

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Yes, nice

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Mr. Simon Meyer

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?Mr. Meyer is here
.Yes. -Come from here, sir-

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Hello. good to see you

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Come on, come in

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?Hi, it's me. Everything is fine
yes-

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.Wait

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You can take it to Dr. Bamberger
?The special requests from today

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.Yes, sure
...and tell him-

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that he needs to cancel one of the certificates
.the previous ones he gave

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I will give it to him

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?What can be done... right?

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.without us it would have been even worse

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.Yes

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It's all one big filth

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History will make its judgment in the future
, today

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But of course there will never be an atonement
for that

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that a small part of the public

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.Helps expel the majority

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I thank you, God

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for leading me
From my peaceful desk

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To the heart of the worries and suffering of time
.this one

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But I don't know if
.I can go on with it

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Yes, nice

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.Now cough, please

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OK. beauty. thank you

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.you can get dressed

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.Looks like pneumonia

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I will prescribe antibiotics

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.I have some balls here for now

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, it should get better in three days

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?If not, keep me posted, okay?

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I can give him an exemption
Shipping per week

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...what about

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?Hospitalization
No way...

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.it's completely overkill

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...I will rest in bed for a few days and
Yul, that's not the point-

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The council announced yesterday

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Anyone who is hospitalized is exempt from shipping

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Yes, and since then the hospital has been flooded
.completely

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.but my brother Yap works there

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They won't let him in

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Even if you give him the
?The reference

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.good

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I will write him a reference
But you will go with him. - Yes, of course

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Go there tonight, right before curfew
There will be less people then

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Thank you
yes-

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You know, I have to admit

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that I got used to you terribly

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.and I to you, Julius

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"I'm the one who knows how terrible it is."
I got used to him

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, with what deep intensity

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With what total dedication I made you
This man, and his work, and his life

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.to an inseparable part of me

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Thank God I still am
, can be with him

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Even if only for five minutes a day

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But the biggest danger lurks
to me she is

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My heart will break with love for him

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with me

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Are you listening?

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Yes. Sorry, I was dreaming for a moment. What
?You said

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Where are you?

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.I'm here, with you

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Come on, let's have a drink

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Another moment, stop
You need to go to a hospital

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Come on, five minutes

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Hi. Come in, quick

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"No entry for Jews"

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?Everything is fine

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.I know that look

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Something is brewing in your head
...it's not-

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And you're afraid I'll try to stop
.you

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Yul, what are you talking about?

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But no one in the world can
.stop you

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.not even me

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.you are unstoppable

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.I love you so much

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, yes

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.I love you too

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...but

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I always knew I would be

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Your springboard
.for the really great love

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No! never say that

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.Hey, yup

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You were late

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.Yes. forgiveness. thank you
yes-

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Yep, it's Julius, Julius Sapir

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Have you heard of him?
?Your lover, right-

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...Yup
.very pleasant-

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...why you
No, I'm honored, this title-

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Very pleasant

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?You brought the letter from Bamberger
.Yes. he is here-

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Let's go in

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You... you can't go in

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Why not?
Visiting hours are over-

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I need to make sure they get it
, him. - I talked to the right people

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.will be fine
I'll just walk him in, well-

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.sorry. These are the rules
...Yup! but it-

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Etty, go home

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.please. and hurry up

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Thank you

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.Thanks, Yup

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?I'll come tomorrow, good
.I'll be here-

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Your springboard
.for the really great love

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.It hurts me so much

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.but... he's right

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: I used to say
I can stand anything

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But if something happens to him
, or if I am forced to leave him

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I can't go on

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, but even then I will have to continue

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.and let go of it

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I have to take care of that

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that my love and concern for him
I won't be played that much

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.that all my strength will be lost to me

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.because that too... selfishness

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out of my love for him
I have to draw strength and love

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.and give them to anyone who needs them

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because this love

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, can feed me for the rest of my life
.and more will be given up to others

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God

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All my grips
.starting to slowly fall out

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, carefully

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and out of sorrow
, but also clarity that everything is for the better

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and there is no other way

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I let go

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from day to day

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with me

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Hannah!

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.a nice hat

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.would rather die than get infected with lice

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...what
We are going to camp tomorrow-

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My exemption request was rejected yesterday
Final

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...well, I have to say

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.that it's really beautiful for you

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Thank you

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.but I came to say goodbye
.it was on my list before we left

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I wouldn't forgive you if it wasn't
.was

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...how

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How are you feeling?
I don't feel-

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I don't want to feel anymore

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...I understand, Hannah, but

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I'm going to die

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What does it matter if I feel or
No

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You're not going to die, Hannah

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...it's hard in camp, though
I-

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I'm coming

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Say hello to him

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Thank you

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The transports to the east began

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.from Westerbork

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To labor camps in Germany, probably

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The first train left today

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One thousand and one hundred people

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I have to go to camp
, to advise them on setting up a clinic there

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to give exemptions
For the people on the lists for transport

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They want to build a name
, what a small branch of the council

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with council workers who will live there

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He had the audacity, this Tobias

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.to ask me if I am willing to volunteer

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Yes, sure... why don't you volunteer
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A corrupt son of a bitch

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.Anyway, I won't be here tomorrow

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I asked a friend, Dr
Sanders, take my place

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Help him with all the bureaucracy
?Good

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See you inside

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Hey, Hans

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?Why are you awake?

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I'm going on a trip with some friends

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And you

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.I... I just woke up

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?You want it?

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No, no. I just wanted to see if
I'm fit

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.from all the walking

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You can take it if you want
.I can get another one

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.no, it's fine

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Thanks, Hans. That's nice of you

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...if I can help with anything

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Tell me, okay?

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.Yes

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I will say

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Thank you

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What happened? tell me

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.sorry, never mind

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.tickets, please. thank you

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.tickets, please

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.Yes, thank you

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.tickets

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.Yes, thank you

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?Do you have permission to leave Amsterdam?

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.Yes

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"The Jewish Council"

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Can I ask you something?

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How did you know I needed a permit?

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.it comes with the job

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To observe people, to pay attention
for things

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.I'm very good at it

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Excellent

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.have a good trip

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The next stop is Hilversum

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with me

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I didn't believe you would come

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Why?
, don't know-

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I didn't think
that you really agree to do it

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Come on, let's go downstairs

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I really like this house

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.that's good

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Let's go down

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.Caution on the head

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You really opened a studio here
yes-

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?This is where you record the show

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?All the guests come here
.in the last few months, yes-

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"Why not in the studio of "Vara"?
It's nicer here, isn't it-

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You organized it really nicely

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?When did you have time?
.just recently-

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Look, there are even toilets here
.and a shower

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.really cute

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.Yes

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What

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The truth is, I thought it might be
.a perfect hiding place for you

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No one comes here

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You can live here until
that you find another solution

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.I want you to keep them

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.after the recording

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...because

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I'm going to Westerbork

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.and I don't want to take them with me

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But you work in the council

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You have an exemption from shipping
, yes-

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I requested a transfer
to the council's branch in the camp

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Physical and mental support for deportees

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I think I can contribute there
.a lot

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?When does this happen?

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.soon

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...I'm waiting for official confirmation, though

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Almost no one volunteers
...for this position

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Yes, and there's a reason for that, don't you think?

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Yes, probably
yes-

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Because Gamker, that monster

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can cancel your status
, as a council employee

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and bring you up
.on the first transport

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.yes, it can happen
yes-

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.I hope not, but it's a possibility

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But... you never know what
, will happen

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...so the best thing is

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, to leave all this panic for a moment
...and simple

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.to do what seems right

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Who knows about this plan of yours?

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So far no one

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Max will find out when he sees the letter

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Max Polk? He is never alive
.will confirm it

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I also wrote Cohen and Asher

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They are looking for volunteers with candles

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.so... they will approve it

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...so

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, right now you are the only one who knows about it

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And I want it to stay that way
Until I go, okay?

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I need to know that I am
.can count on you

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00:26:42,439 --> 00:26:44,959
?Yes, and... and what about Han?

269
00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:47,279
?And your family

270
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,839
I will tell them when everything is closed

271
00:26:55,399 --> 00:26:56,599
...class

272
00:26:57,959 --> 00:27:01,039
I came to you because you are the only one
, who can understand

273
00:27:01,399 --> 00:27:03,639
.or... who would have done the same

274
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:05,599
...absolutely not. I am
...so promise me-

275
00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:07,599
.No, I wouldn't do that
.would you do-

276
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:10,999
No. The truth is already now
.I don't do it

277
00:27:12,479 --> 00:27:13,679
What is meant?

278
00:27:16,479 --> 00:27:18,359
I started working
." in "The Dutch Broadcasting

279
00:27:20,919 --> 00:27:24,999
Yes. At the fascist whores
.these

280
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,719
I'm not the only one, of course
.but that's no excuse

281
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:32,119
I am not involved in any propaganda

282
00:27:32,239 --> 00:27:36,799
.but... that's no excuse either
So what are we recording here?

283
00:27:38,479 --> 00:27:43,719
I'm still recording the show
, to keep a shred of self-respect

284
00:27:47,719 --> 00:27:51,519
But I don't know if
Someday it will be broadcast, or where

285
00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:55,119
Maybe after the war

286
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,239
, because the truth is, me

287
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:09,079
.that I'm just scared

288
00:28:11,439 --> 00:28:13,119
.and I want to live

289
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,039
You can call me an associate. This
OK

290
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,199
I'm not judging you, Klass
you can-

291
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:27,799
What interests me now is just
.if I can trust you or not

292
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:33,799
I need you to promise me that it is
.remains between us

293
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:40,079
.Yes

294
00:28:58,639 --> 00:29:00,919
Hello, listeners from the future

295
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,079
.in the new age of freedom

296
00:29:05,399 --> 00:29:07,559
This is another episode
"in the program "The Red Thread".

297
00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:11,519
And with us today is the author
The young woman Etty Hilsum

298
00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:14,399
So far she has not published the
, her creation

299
00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:18,519
But I am convinced that in time
, that you listen to it

300
00:29:18,719 --> 00:29:23,639
Eti is already one of the most voices
fascinating of this period

301
00:29:23,719 --> 00:29:24,959
Class!

302
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:28,639
I have been writing for almost a year

303
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:32,239
, a type of diary text, or illuminated

304
00:29:32,479 --> 00:29:38,759
This is elaborate confessional writing
...very, kind of testimony of

305
00:29:38,919 --> 00:29:41,159
Class, really
No, you're right-

306
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,839
.Let's get started. come on

307
00:29:52,679 --> 00:29:56,679
?So... where do you want us to start?

308
00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,319
.in the beginning

309
00:30:06,639 --> 00:30:08,919
.well, this is really the beginning of everything

310
00:30:16,959 --> 00:30:18,599
.so that's it, go ahead

311
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:23,119
This is a painful step and almost
: Impossible for me

312
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:26,279
deposit all that has been repressed

313
00:30:26,439 --> 00:30:28,359
Between the lines of an innocent sheet of paper

314
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:30,879
, so many inhibitions

315
00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:33,119
Fear of letting go

316
00:30:33,719 --> 00:30:34,879
to allow things to flow from me

317
00:30:34,959 --> 00:30:36,719
, and still
This is what I have to do

318
00:30:37,479 --> 00:30:41,399
If I want to give my life
A meaningful and satisfying goal

319
00:31:09,879 --> 00:31:13,039
To the Honorable Mr. Max Polk, responsible
Exemptions

320
00:31:17,879 --> 00:31:21,799
I hereby request a transfer
.to the council branch in Westerbork

321
00:31:28,159 --> 00:31:30,719
I believe that my skills will be used
to a much better extent

322
00:31:30,879 --> 00:31:32,519
If I engage in social assistance

323
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:37,039
and mental support for families
.and to the people who come to the camp

324
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:39,719
with me

325
00:31:44,479 --> 00:31:49,119
I wish to declare that I am aware
, for all the risks involved in this job

326
00:31:49,719 --> 00:31:52,359
and that this decision may be
.irreversible

327
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:04,879
, if I may be allowed a little poetry

328
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,079
After all, we all have a common destiny

329
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:12,079
.and I will not avoid my part in this fate

330
00:32:13,639 --> 00:32:18,719
I want to strap him on my back
, like a backpack, and fasten it to me

331
00:32:18,919 --> 00:32:20,599
until he becomes a part of me

332
00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:26,079
This is what will guide me from here on
.wherever I go

333
00:32:26,971 --> 00:32:30,771
If my request is rejected, I resign
, hereby my position in the council

334
00:32:31,479 --> 00:32:33,639
"Giving up my special status"

335
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,159
And I will obey my summons to Westerbork

336
00:32:37,514 --> 00:32:40,476
Sincerely, I'm Hilsum

337
00:32:43,918 --> 00:32:47,014
?You don't want to answer
.No, I mute it-

338
00:32:50,755 --> 00:32:51,803
You can continue

339
00:32:52,889 --> 00:32:57,995
Or you need another break
.No, we're almost done-

340
00:32:58,956 --> 00:32:59,649
.okay

341
00:33:00,916 --> 00:33:02,331
.well, it's a recorder

342
00:33:07,216 --> 00:33:08,856
... this one

343
00:33:10,136 --> 00:33:11,122
The last one

344
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:20,776
God, all my grips
.starting to slowly fall out

345
00:33:24,296 --> 00:33:25,656
"carefully"

346
00:33:26,696 --> 00:33:27,656
out of great sorrow"

347
00:33:27,736 --> 00:33:30,816
, but also clarity that everything is for the better"

348
00:33:31,976 --> 00:33:33,656
and there is no other way"

349
00:33:35,696 --> 00:33:37,136
I'm letting go

350
00:33:38,296 --> 00:33:39,936
"...day by day"

351
00:33:51,856 --> 00:33:53,056
.this is it

352
00:34:00,536 --> 00:34:02,136
I wrote this last night

353
00:34:09,416 --> 00:34:10,696
.it's yours

354
00:34:14,856 --> 00:34:16,896
Can you play one more song?

355
00:34:17,616 --> 00:34:18,816
?To finish

356
00:34:19,616 --> 00:34:21,896
We don't have to finish. there is
We have time

357
00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:24,896
I have to go back

358
00:34:32,736 --> 00:34:34,336
, dear listeners

359
00:34:34,416 --> 00:34:39,496
We'll listen now... for more
.music

360
00:34:39,736 --> 00:34:41,616
What did you bring with you, Eti?

361
00:34:44,096 --> 00:34:47,176
It's a lullaby my mom used to be
Sing to me

362
00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:53,096
.okay

363
00:35:38,376 --> 00:35:39,656
?What is it about?

364
00:35:43,896 --> 00:35:45,456
...he is actually a number

365
00:35:47,616 --> 00:35:50,096
About a mother trying to tell her son

366
00:35:50,216 --> 00:35:52,976
.whose father died in the war

367
00:35:58,016 --> 00:35:59,216
was grief"

368
00:36:00,976 --> 00:36:03,976
there will always be grief"

369
00:36:07,216 --> 00:36:09,656
"There is no end to sorrow"

370
00:36:11,536 --> 00:36:14,096
...jeez, and it's called a lullaby

371
00:36:15,736 --> 00:36:17,816
What is your problem, Russians?

372
00:36:18,656 --> 00:36:22,536
Well, it actually has
.lots of benefits these days

373
00:36:23,816 --> 00:36:25,056
?Yes

374
00:36:27,176 --> 00:36:28,256
What, for example?

375
00:36:29,456 --> 00:36:32,576
Here in the West, we don't catch on
suffering as a part of life

376
00:36:33,976 --> 00:36:35,056
...that is

377
00:36:35,256 --> 00:36:37,816
And when suffering comes to us, we
...so much

378
00:36:39,216 --> 00:36:40,616
Not ready for it

379
00:36:41,536 --> 00:36:43,776
...so unskilled b

380
00:36:45,136 --> 00:36:47,496
." in "The Art of Suffering

381
00:36:48,136 --> 00:36:50,536
?You understand
.no-

382
00:36:51,296 --> 00:36:53,856
?I... What is the art of suffering?

383
00:36:55,416 --> 00:36:59,176
What are you doing with him?
What meaning do you give it?

384
00:37:00,776 --> 00:37:03,376
...people are so immersed in it

385
00:37:04,176 --> 00:37:05,296
, fear

386
00:37:05,456 --> 00:37:07,656
...despair, bitterness, hatred

387
00:37:08,096 --> 00:37:10,256
.and get completely absorbed in it
...yeah, but-

388
00:37:14,136 --> 00:37:17,816
I don't think you can blame
them. - No, of course not! Absolutely not

389
00:37:19,096 --> 00:37:20,176
...but

390
00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:24,136
If all you have left
, in life is fear and hatred

391
00:37:27,296 --> 00:37:29,056
You can even continue to call it
?life

392
00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:32,736
, I don't know

393
00:37:35,576 --> 00:37:38,656
?Life itself is before everything, no

394
00:37:41,216 --> 00:37:42,536
.not always

395
00:37:46,696 --> 00:37:48,136
...okay, but

396
00:37:49,256 --> 00:37:50,896
How do you deal with suffering?

397
00:37:51,216 --> 00:37:54,336
Listen, I don't always succeed
Absolutely not

398
00:37:54,536 --> 00:37:56,976
.I have enough moments of despair

399
00:37:57,096 --> 00:37:58,656
...but I am

400
00:37:59,696 --> 00:38:02,416
Trying to remember what's really important
...this

401
00:38:03,936 --> 00:38:05,456
.This is my response to suffering

402
00:38:07,256 --> 00:38:10,496
I always have the freedom to choose
.how to respond to him

403
00:38:14,856 --> 00:38:17,216
It goes without saying, I know

404
00:38:17,336 --> 00:38:19,576
...but that thought always

405
00:38:20,696 --> 00:38:22,816
Yes... fills me with a feeling of
Freedom

406
00:38:26,216 --> 00:38:29,176
?You can understand that
.I think, yes-

407
00:38:29,656 --> 00:38:33,096
, that's what I read to you before
On the cell I enter

408
00:38:33,816 --> 00:38:34,616
.Yes

409
00:38:35,736 --> 00:38:37,656
Yes, the prayer room, yes
yes-

410
00:38:37,856 --> 00:38:38,896
, and there

411
00:38:40,016 --> 00:38:41,776
, if I manage to concentrate enough

412
00:38:41,856 --> 00:38:44,456
, and surrender to it completely

413
00:38:48,176 --> 00:38:49,816
I feel completely protected

414
00:38:52,016 --> 00:38:53,416
Hasina

415
00:38:56,496 --> 00:38:58,896
, because there is something of me there

416
00:38:59,976 --> 00:39:01,256
, my nucleus

417
00:39:03,016 --> 00:39:04,696
.which can never be taken from me

418
00:39:06,616 --> 00:39:09,536
And even if I lose everything I have
.I will always have him

419
00:39:11,136 --> 00:39:12,256
, that is

420
00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:16,336
.myself. And no matter what happens

421
00:39:19,656 --> 00:39:21,736
...Okay, so you believe

422
00:39:23,056 --> 00:39:24,656
...you believe that this nucleus

423
00:39:25,936 --> 00:39:27,336
...the truth is that
...even if-

424
00:39:29,696 --> 00:39:33,616
?Yes
The truth is that it's not easy for me to talk about it-

425
00:39:36,256 --> 00:39:37,696
Certainly not with you

426
00:39:37,856 --> 00:39:41,456
Okay, because it has to do with God
etc. - Yes, yes

427
00:39:41,576 --> 00:39:47,176
Well, maybe it's time
Let's talk about it

428
00:39:49,576 --> 00:39:50,616
?Yes

429
00:39:53,456 --> 00:39:55,096
.Yes
...because-

430
00:39:56,656 --> 00:39:57,896
...which I am

431
00:39:58,816 --> 00:40:02,216
What I'm still trying to figure out is

432
00:40:02,856 --> 00:40:06,576
How are you, of all people?
.You started to believe in God

433
00:40:06,696 --> 00:40:09,256
I still can't figure it out
.this. - Yes

434
00:40:09,416 --> 00:40:12,176
I just stopped too
.to fight it

435
00:40:12,456 --> 00:40:13,896
Look, sometimes I feel it too

436
00:40:13,976 --> 00:40:15,936
"That the word "God
.so primitive

437
00:40:17,296 --> 00:40:20,776
Obviously I'm not easy with that word

438
00:40:22,656 --> 00:40:24,936
...the truth is it's more like

439
00:40:27,496 --> 00:40:29,136
.a metaphor

440
00:40:30,976 --> 00:40:32,096
.okay

441
00:40:34,576 --> 00:40:35,816
...it's like there is

442
00:40:36,736 --> 00:40:38,416
...it's like having sex

443
00:40:40,216 --> 00:40:43,736
, a hole inside me

444
00:40:44,856 --> 00:40:46,096
A deep pit

445
00:40:47,696 --> 00:40:49,216
, and I go into it

446
00:40:51,856 --> 00:40:55,056
And sometimes it is covered with stones
and in the dirt

447
00:40:57,056 --> 00:40:59,696
Then I have to dig and clean
, him

448
00:41:01,176 --> 00:41:04,576
But in the end, I find something
.that is buried deep beneath it all

449
00:41:06,976 --> 00:41:10,616
." And that's what I call "God

450
00:41:14,576 --> 00:41:18,656
, but this is not just a metaphor. i.e

451
00:41:19,936 --> 00:41:23,576
You also pray to this God
...you talk to him. So

452
00:41:24,936 --> 00:41:26,976
.Yes, a lot

453
00:41:27,496 --> 00:41:31,136
, then it is something that is outside of you
...no? some other entity or

454
00:41:31,256 --> 00:41:33,176
...no, no, because

455
00:41:34,336 --> 00:41:37,896
When I speak to this core
, that you are inside me

456
00:41:38,736 --> 00:41:41,256
.it's more like... a conversation

457
00:41:44,336 --> 00:41:49,176
She can be real
.Childish sometimes

458
00:41:50,176 --> 00:41:52,616
!?God, really"
“!It can't go on like this

459
00:41:53,536 --> 00:41:54,616
...but

460
00:41:56,896 --> 00:41:58,216
, even then

461
00:41:59,016 --> 00:42:02,336
It's like I'm turning to something
inside me

462
00:42:04,016 --> 00:42:06,496
that I am trying to plead which
.a part of myself

463
00:42:07,936 --> 00:42:11,016
"I... "from class

464
00:42:11,096 --> 00:42:13,936
I wish I could find
There's a word for that in Dutch

465
00:42:14,736 --> 00:42:18,856
, but I'm listening with all my heart

466
00:42:19,696 --> 00:42:21,216
.to the voice that is inside me

467
00:42:25,056 --> 00:42:26,936
But you don't think so
Which is pretty absurd timing

468
00:42:27,016 --> 00:42:28,896
?Start believing in God

469
00:42:29,536 --> 00:42:32,376
?With all the horrors happening around us
.no-

470
00:42:32,496 --> 00:42:35,296
...that's exactly it
If there was a god-

471
00:42:36,776 --> 00:42:39,456
He would start by destroying
...all these barbarians who

472
00:42:39,536 --> 00:42:41,176
Class, please

473
00:42:42,856 --> 00:42:44,936
Don't make it into something like that
My childhood

474
00:42:46,016 --> 00:42:48,696
Obviously I'm not talking about
some one in heaven

475
00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:52,096
who owes us an explanation of what
.happening down here

476
00:42:53,136 --> 00:42:56,336
If anything, the opposite is true

477
00:42:57,856 --> 00:43:02,696
We are the ones who have to give it to him
Accountability for all these atrocities

478
00:43:02,856 --> 00:43:04,096
"We"

479
00:43:04,896 --> 00:43:06,976
?"Who is "we
We are "that's all of us"-

480
00:43:07,216 --> 00:43:08,776
.You and me too

481
00:43:09,136 --> 00:43:12,056
What, what do I have to account for?

482
00:43:14,216 --> 00:43:15,936
.about your hatred, for example

483
00:43:17,576 --> 00:43:21,536
Because this is also a big part of what is happening
.here

484
00:43:22,016 --> 00:43:24,816
.I have no problem with my hate
Yes, that's exactly the problem-

485
00:43:26,576 --> 00:43:30,496
...people immediately get addicted to everything
Those revenge fantasies

486
00:43:30,616 --> 00:43:33,296
I can spend hours
.in my fantasies

487
00:43:34,296 --> 00:43:39,256
In fact... nothing can
.be more natural than that

488
00:43:39,376 --> 00:43:41,496
.It is as natural as illness is natural

489
00:43:42,736 --> 00:43:45,296
Can't you see it's poisonous?
?your soul? of all of us

490
00:43:45,416 --> 00:43:50,176
The only unnatural thing here
.is your objection to it

491
00:43:50,776 --> 00:43:53,536
...you, you fight
Class! class-

492
00:43:53,696 --> 00:43:54,976
Class!

493
00:43:56,656 --> 00:43:58,656
remember your tantrum
?In the museum

494
00:44:00,056 --> 00:44:03,776
, you didn't feel it wasn't in... matching
?For everything that happens

495
00:44:04,176 --> 00:44:05,256
No

496
00:44:06,816 --> 00:44:11,256
I mean, all sorts of things happen here
, so big, diabolical

497
00:44:11,656 --> 00:44:13,456
...on a biblical scale

498
00:44:14,296 --> 00:44:15,616
you don't feel
, that all this bitterness

499
00:44:15,696 --> 00:44:18,096
?And the cursing, isn't it a bit... lousy

500
00:44:18,176 --> 00:44:21,936
No, I feel like this is it
The most natural in the world

501
00:44:22,016 --> 00:44:23,416
But I know you, Klass

502
00:44:24,696 --> 00:44:26,376
.Hate is not in your nature

503
00:44:26,576 --> 00:44:28,336
.My nature has changed

504
00:44:29,176 --> 00:44:32,616
And your nature and everyone else's has changed
.because of these monsters

505
00:44:32,696 --> 00:44:34,336
.but they are not monsters

506
00:44:35,616 --> 00:44:39,256
They are human, and that is exactly the problem

507
00:44:40,296 --> 00:44:43,256
Which makes them do the
These horrors also exist within us

508
00:44:43,496 --> 00:44:44,656
.with all of us

509
00:44:45,216 --> 00:44:47,656
.I don't agree with that
But I'm sure of it-

510
00:44:49,576 --> 00:44:51,456
I know for sure

511
00:44:53,296 --> 00:44:56,136
that if each and every one of us
, will take a moment to look inside

512
00:44:57,776 --> 00:45:02,376
And instead of fantasizing about destroying the
, the other

513
00:45:02,816 --> 00:45:04,696
Will try to destroy this part
...in it that

514
00:45:04,776 --> 00:45:06,576
Sorry, I'm here
.but I can't hear it

515
00:45:06,656 --> 00:45:08,216
I know how it sounds

516
00:45:08,456 --> 00:45:11,416
...I'm not trying to preach, though
.this is how it sounds-

517
00:45:11,776 --> 00:45:13,376
No, Klass, really

518
00:45:13,616 --> 00:45:16,816
You're the one who always resisted
to relate to people

519
00:45:16,896 --> 00:45:18,776
.as if they were a uniform, faceless mass

520
00:45:18,896 --> 00:45:21,576
!It's not the same thing
:Try to think about it for a moment really-

521
00:45:26,696 --> 00:45:29,176
There are also hundreds of thousands of German mothers

522
00:45:30,056 --> 00:45:33,096
that at this moment are grieving
.about their children who are killed in the war

523
00:45:35,376 --> 00:45:38,096
...and children who lost their fathers

524
00:45:41,176 --> 00:45:42,936
You are unable to feel
?Their pain

525
00:45:47,136 --> 00:45:48,976
?So what is it actually?

526
00:45:50,816 --> 00:45:52,416
"Love your enemy"

527
00:45:52,776 --> 00:45:54,696
This is Christianity

528
00:45:55,536 --> 00:45:57,296
.Call it Christianity if you want

529
00:45:58,976 --> 00:46:01,816
Call it Buddhism, Judaism

530
00:46:03,496 --> 00:46:05,256
What does it matter?
...well-

531
00:46:05,416 --> 00:46:07,216
, it matters

532
00:46:07,736 --> 00:46:10,496
Because when you yourself become a part

533
00:46:10,616 --> 00:46:13,176
From this whole world of beliefs
, mysticism

534
00:46:13,456 --> 00:46:16,256
which become more important
...from life itself

535
00:46:16,376 --> 00:46:17,496
you don't know anything
.about my faith

536
00:46:17,576 --> 00:46:19,776
No, but I see
What does she make you do?

537
00:46:19,856 --> 00:46:21,256
...it has nothing to do with religion

538
00:46:21,336 --> 00:46:23,576
Yeah, okay, so call it a voice
.internal

539
00:46:29,456 --> 00:46:30,736
...and

540
00:46:32,816 --> 00:46:35,656
Now that inner voice
...your tells you

541
00:46:37,976 --> 00:46:39,696
.go to camp

542
00:46:46,216 --> 00:46:48,256
You keep screwing it up
...for something so simplistic

543
00:46:51,056 --> 00:46:54,016
But yes, basically, yes. that's what
.that this

544
00:46:54,856 --> 00:46:57,656
.even if it means dying

545
00:47:09,136 --> 00:47:10,696
.I want to tell you something

546
00:47:12,256 --> 00:47:15,416
But I want to be sure
Don't get it wrong

547
00:47:18,896 --> 00:47:19,936
.okay

548
00:47:24,296 --> 00:47:25,776
i feel

549
00:47:27,016 --> 00:47:29,096
that somehow

550
00:47:29,376 --> 00:47:31,096
I'm done with this life

551
00:47:37,736 --> 00:47:40,176
What are you actually saying?
No way I'm giving up-

552
00:47:40,296 --> 00:47:42,336
No? That's how it sounds
!no-

553
00:47:42,456 --> 00:47:46,056
do you see That's why... -Which
...another meaning can be to

554
00:47:46,336 --> 00:47:48,056
"To come to terms with life"
...meaning is-

555
00:47:49,736 --> 00:47:51,496
that the possibility of death

556
00:47:52,376 --> 00:47:54,136
.became a part of my life

557
00:47:58,136 --> 00:47:59,176
I can even say

558
00:47:59,256 --> 00:48:01,536
that the presence of death enriched you
.my life

559
00:48:03,816 --> 00:48:05,736
, and I can look him in the eyes

560
00:48:06,696 --> 00:48:08,696
and accept that it is possible

561
00:48:09,696 --> 00:48:15,256
Instead of wasting all my energy
.for fear of death, or for denial

562
00:48:17,136 --> 00:48:18,616
I try, at least

563
00:48:23,616 --> 00:48:26,936
.so you just don't mind dying
?That's the thing

564
00:48:28,576 --> 00:48:30,776
No, just the opposite, Klass

565
00:48:33,336 --> 00:48:34,496
I really am

566
00:48:36,176 --> 00:48:37,296
, really

567
00:48:38,096 --> 00:48:40,296
, really want to continue living

568
00:48:42,376 --> 00:48:45,136
But I want to live life
Mine, as I feel is right

569
00:48:49,416 --> 00:48:50,976
There are so many things
...which I want to do

570
00:48:54,176 --> 00:48:57,176
I just know that I have so much
, much to give

571
00:48:57,296 --> 00:48:59,776
, for people who have lost hope
...for young girls who

572
00:48:59,896 --> 00:49:02,256
.but you can help them here
...and I really-

573
00:49:02,536 --> 00:49:05,976
Really want to be a part
From what will happen here after the war

574
00:49:07,576 --> 00:49:10,216
really. And I really want to
.to see what happens next

575
00:49:12,456 --> 00:49:15,656
I just know there will be all
so many people

576
00:49:15,776 --> 00:49:19,216
Let them try to make a positive change here

577
00:49:21,176 --> 00:49:23,656
.and I want to be a part of it
Yes-

578
00:49:24,856 --> 00:49:26,216
Then stay

579
00:49:28,056 --> 00:49:32,256
- Stay! It is so true
.you have so much to give the world

580
00:49:32,336 --> 00:49:34,256
...why go to a place that

581
00:49:34,376 --> 00:49:37,216
But what I have to give
I can also give in the camp

582
00:49:38,856 --> 00:49:41,136
.especially there
Yes, if you stay alive-

583
00:49:43,256 --> 00:49:44,336
.Yes

584
00:49:45,976 --> 00:49:48,856
, but even if I don't survive it

585
00:49:51,416 --> 00:49:53,376
, sometimes also the way you die

586
00:49:56,176 --> 00:49:58,576
Can give something to the world, no

587
00:50:03,856 --> 00:50:07,736
With me, please
I beg you. stay here

588
00:50:08,816 --> 00:50:12,616
We can continue the discussion
...it's forever, but, please

589
00:50:12,696 --> 00:50:15,696
...class, enough
Listen, stay here for a week, okay-

590
00:50:15,856 --> 00:50:18,616
...you can decide later
But I've already decided-

591
00:50:18,736 --> 00:50:20,576
But this is absurd

592
00:50:21,656 --> 00:50:25,096
.You have an option that no one else has
Yes, that's exactly the problem-

593
00:50:25,256 --> 00:50:29,936
But it's not at anyone's expense
No, that's not true, that's not true-

594
00:50:30,416 --> 00:50:32,256
There are quotas, every week

595
00:50:32,976 --> 00:50:34,736
Anyone who saves themselves knows

596
00:50:34,816 --> 00:50:37,216
.for someone else to go in his place

597
00:50:37,816 --> 00:50:42,336
I don't tell other people
!What... -It's not related

598
00:50:42,776 --> 00:50:44,976
A person should do
What he can to live

599
00:50:45,056 --> 00:50:46,456
: Class, let me ask you a question

600
00:50:47,056 --> 00:50:49,136
What does it matter if I go into hiding?

601
00:50:49,216 --> 00:50:51,576
when so many people
?They will have to go to the camp

602
00:50:51,696 --> 00:50:54,696
This is the most twisted logic
!that I have heard in my life

603
00:50:54,776 --> 00:50:56,896
Why?
...why? because-

604
00:50:57,016 --> 00:50:58,936
...because I know that

605
00:50:59,016 --> 00:51:01,216
It is not arrogance to think
that I'm too good

606
00:51:01,296 --> 00:51:03,176
?To the fate of so many people

607
00:51:03,336 --> 00:51:05,056
This is not arrogance

608
00:51:05,136 --> 00:51:07,976
...there is such a thing called
"Common destiny"

609
00:51:08,056 --> 00:51:10,216
I'm not sure you'll be able to understand
No, I don't understand-

610
00:51:10,296 --> 00:51:13,656
.so call it solidarity
?It's something you know, right?

611
00:51:13,816 --> 00:51:17,136
?We forgot our socialism
Fuck socialism!

612
00:51:17,296 --> 00:51:19,696
I don't give a damn about socialism

613
00:51:19,936 --> 00:51:23,136
If I have to choose between you
, between socialism, I choose you

614
00:51:23,256 --> 00:51:24,896
?It is not clear

615
00:51:27,776 --> 00:51:28,976
No

616
00:51:29,856 --> 00:51:31,056
No

617
00:51:31,896 --> 00:51:33,096
Absolutely not

618
00:51:42,576 --> 00:51:43,736
Are you okay?

619
00:51:44,296 --> 00:51:45,416
...yes, I am

620
00:51:47,456 --> 00:51:49,896
.okay, let's get this over with

621
00:51:52,176 --> 00:51:54,856
?We're done here, right?
.no, no-

622
00:51:56,176 --> 00:51:57,696
No, you can continue

623
00:51:58,096 --> 00:52:01,416
...it's fascinating. Go ahead, read
I have to go back to Amsterdam-

624
00:52:01,696 --> 00:52:02,896
Why? what is so urgent

625
00:52:02,976 --> 00:52:05,376
I have to go see Sapir
.in the hospital. he is waiting for me

626
00:52:05,496 --> 00:52:06,776
Come on, that's enough

627
00:52:08,536 --> 00:52:11,176
Class, leave me alone
Enough of that!

628
00:52:11,296 --> 00:52:13,656
You will die there
I won't die. enough-

629
00:52:13,736 --> 00:52:16,536
What are you trying to prove?
...if you still don't understand-

630
00:52:16,616 --> 00:52:18,656
No, I don't understand, Eti

631
00:52:18,736 --> 00:52:20,976
I don't understand
I don't understand what happened to you

632
00:52:21,056 --> 00:52:24,776
.I don't know you! - Yes, exactly
You don't know me anymore

633
00:52:25,856 --> 00:52:27,816
With me, that's enough
.leave me-

634
00:52:27,936 --> 00:52:29,696
!Enough
.leave me-

635
00:53:06,976 --> 00:53:08,256
...with me
...and-

636
00:53:10,016 --> 00:53:11,776
Please delete our recordings

637
00:53:13,096 --> 00:53:14,176
.please

638
00:53:28,096 --> 00:53:29,336
.please

639
00:53:32,416 --> 00:53:33,896
.Class, let me go

640
00:53:42,856 --> 00:53:44,696
with me. with me

641
00:53:46,216 --> 00:53:48,216
?Hey, can you hear me?

642
00:53:49,496 --> 00:53:50,776
Ethy, hi

643
00:53:54,336 --> 00:53:55,656
Are you okay?

644
00:53:58,896 --> 00:54:00,496
What happened?

645
00:54:02,096 --> 00:54:03,736
You passed out

646
00:54:05,376 --> 00:54:07,896
Shall I call the doctor? my neighbor
...he is

647
00:54:07,976 --> 00:54:09,896
.No, I'll be fine

648
00:54:13,136 --> 00:54:14,616
.carefully. come on

649
00:54:19,176 --> 00:54:20,496
Are you okay?

650
00:54:26,176 --> 00:54:28,016
...I am
.come-

651
00:55:03,976 --> 00:55:04,572
Take it

652
00:55:10,256 --> 00:55:11,336
Are you okay?

653
00:55:28,736 --> 00:55:30,176
I think I'm pregnant

654
00:55:34,576 --> 00:55:35,736
What

655
00:55:38,536 --> 00:55:39,936
It seems to me

656
00:55:50,256 --> 00:55:51,056
Writing and directing: Hagai Levy

657
00:55:51,136 --> 00:55:51,936
Producers: Yael Vogel
Leticia Gonzalez

658
00:55:52,016 --> 00:55:52,816
, Jonas Dornbach, Frans van Gestel

659
00:55:52,896 --> 00:55:53,696
Yalon Rachkovsky, Ossi Neshri
Hagai Levi

660
00:55:53,776 --> 00:55:54,576
Artistic producer: A kind of paradise

661
00:55:54,656 --> 00:55:55,456
Edited by: Yael Harsonsky
.Neta Dvorakis, Assaf Korman

662
00:55:55,536 --> 00:55:56,336
Screenplay editing: Ossi Neshri

