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Candace Owens, welcome
to the show.
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I'm so excited to do this.
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[exhales]
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You and me both.
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You've done everybody but me.
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Well, that doesn't
sound good.
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Right? I've been-- I'm just like
being completely left out.
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[laughs] Well, dude, I've been
nervous to meet you.
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Really?
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Fuck yeah, I'm nervous
to meet you.
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I feel like I'm--
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I don't want to get on
your bad side.
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Me?
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[laughs]
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Me?
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Little old me?
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Sounds like there's some rumors
out there about me.
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I gotta clear up.
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I'm so nice.
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I'm so friendly, you know?
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Well, being our mutual
friend, Dana,
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had a lot of conversations.
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I was like, "Ah, I
don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't want to wind up
on her bad side."
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She always spoke fairly
highly of you, so--
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It's interesting to think
about that,
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like what people think about
you before they meet you,
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because obviously,
as you know,
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there's always gonna be like
the caricature,
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you know what I mean?
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So we obviously have to rely
on, I don't know, articles,
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what you hear, what's
happening.
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And I guess there's always that
moment where you're like,
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"I wonder if it meets what I
think I know about her."
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It didn't.
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It didn't.
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Way better.
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[laughs]
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Obviously.
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So, yeah, it was--
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Man, I'm glad we had dinner
that night.
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Yeah, it was such a
great dinner.
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I mean, your wife's amazing
and your story's amazing.
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And I was always keen
to do your show.
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I was like, "Wow, he's
right here."
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We're living in the
same town.
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We were almost neighbors.
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And you just do great stuff.
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Man, I really wish that would
have happened.
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Yeah.
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The neighbor thing.
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I know, almost.
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Who knows?
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Maybe in the future.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, we got a lot to
cover today.
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We do.
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Dude.
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A lot going on, man.
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No kidding.
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But let me start you off with
an introduction,
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not that you need one, right?
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Candace Owens, you're a
political commentator,
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author, and independent
journalist
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known for challenging mainstream
narratives
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and tackling controversial
issues.
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Over the past decade,
you've become
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one of the most influential
voices in all of media,
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building a massive audience
through your commentary
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and investigative reporting.
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Today, through your independent
platform,
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you continue to cover politics,
culture, and current events
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while questioning official
narratives
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and sparking national debate.
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And most importantly, you're
a Catholic.
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Most importantly, I am a Catholic,
a mother, a wife.
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That's right.
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And so before we get into
your life story
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and all the other stuff
that we're
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going to talk about, a
couple of things
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to get through of a Patreon
account.
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Do you have a Patreon?
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I was on Patreon, and I don't
think I am anymore.
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I know all about Patreon.
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Right on.
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Yeah.
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Well, we're on there, and
they're the reason I
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get to sit down with
you today.
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So they get the opportunity
to
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ask every single cast
a question.
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So this is from Kim Turner.
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Candace, you faced intense public
criticism, particularly
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accusations of disloyalty to
the black community
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and the Christian community for
holding independent views.
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How do you maintain your composure
and stay grounded
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in who you are when those
attacks get personal?
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You know, I don't know, but I
pay too much attention
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to the criticism that's
lobbed at me anymore,
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only because it's constant.
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And if I spent every day
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worried about what other
people were
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thinking about me or allowing
them to define who I am,
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I wouldn't get out of bed.
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And I've got four toddlers
at home,
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so I just shut that entire
part of my life off.
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And people are very surprised
by that,
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but it truly doesn't
impact me.
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I know who I am, so I don't
have to go to the internet
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to learn about who I am.
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You legit, it doesn't bother
you at all.
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No, it genuinely doesn't
bother me at all.
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I'm definitely, I think,
battle hardened.
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I think over time, maybe when
I was just getting started,
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I felt, I don't know, maybe a
twinge of that's not fair,
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that's not true.
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But when you have substance in
your life, real substance,
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and you're not swimming in
your own insecurities,
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meaning when I first got started,
I wasn't married.
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I didn't have my family, I didn't
have kids relying on me.
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So life is just so much more like,
substance now, so real.
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Wow.
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Man, I mean, I'm a lot
better at it
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than when I first started with,
man, the shit bothers me.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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And then I see like, the Time
Magazine cover thing
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that Trump posted about you.
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Oh, gosh.
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Tweeting about you.
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Yeah, that was a moment.
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All of your enemies.
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Right.
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You have a lot of enemies.
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I can't even believe that I forgot
about the Trump thing,
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the Trump tweet.
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You forgot about it?
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Yeah, until you just
mentioned it,
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it's not even something that
I even think about.
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It was so strange.
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It was so strange.
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I was in Italy getting confirmed
by a cardinal,
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and that I was so excited
about it.
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And it was just, it's weird
because it's the President
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of the United States.
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And it's something that maybe
you would expect to see
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if you're in high school and
people are trying to like,
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find ways to hurt you.
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But, you know, when the President
of the United States
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you're fat, you're ugly.
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You know, that just
feels weird.
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It was just very strange.
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Well, it is weird.
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It's weird.
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Adjectively, I thought it
was very strange.
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And I don't have--
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Did he forget you started
a war?
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Yeah, I know.
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Isn't that a little more
important than fucking
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generating AI Time Magazine cover
photos about podcasters?
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And beyond that, just kind of
basically saying you're ugly
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is just there's something so
elementary about it.
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I'm just not in high school.
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That's not something that I wake
up every day and wonder,
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does the President of the
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United States think I'm
hot or not?
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There's something about it
like that's just like,
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okay, he's got a type
and he said,
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"Brigitte Macron's hotter
than me.
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He's allowed.
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It's a free country."
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You know?
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Yeah.
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It was-- that was definitely
a moment where I was going.
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This is-- these are some strange
enemies to have.
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Did you find humor in it?
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Genuinely, at the time,
I was--
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there was just so much
going on.
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I was in Italy and my phone
started blowing up
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and I was so excited
about the
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eve of my confirmation that--
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and I had just had this wonderful
dinner with my priest
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and I had a meeting with the
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Cardinal about the
confirmation
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that I just turned my phone
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off because I didn't
want to even
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let in whatever energy
that was as,
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"Nope, you're not ruining
my day."
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I felt like I was like on the
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eve of my wedding
or something
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and there was--
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there was too much spiritual
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goodness that was surrounding
me,
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I guess, is the best
way to put it.
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We had planned that
trip for a
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very long time for
me to go to
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Italy and get confirmed and I
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just wasn't going to
allow that
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to be a memory.
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And so I just was like, "I'll
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deal with that when
I get back."
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And so it's a strange thing to
be in a place where you're
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putting the President of the
United States on hold.
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Everyone, someone, the guest
was waiting for a response
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and I was like--
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I don't have time for
this shit.
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That was it.
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It was, "I don't have
time for this.
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I'm really excited."
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And this is my wedding day, so
to speak, and that was that.
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And then we had a fantastic
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time in Italy and then
when I got
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home and the podcast was back
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on, I was like, "Okay,
now where
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is the child?
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Time to address the child.
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Shame on you.
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This is not a good look
for you."
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And I don't have that.
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I don't wake up every day wondering
if the President
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thinks I'm pretty.
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That's just not a part
of my life.
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Well, as many enemies as you have,
they give you a lot of
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attention.
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They do.
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I think it helps you a lot more
than it hurts you, which is
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pretty cool.
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I definitely don't think that
a moment like that empowers
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Trump.
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That's what I would say.
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I think it diminishes
him in a way.
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You know, you shouldn't relinquish
your power like that
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as the President, you know, to
dig up a photo of me when I
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was sick and I shared that
photo, by the way.
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Are you serious?
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Yeah, that photo is real.
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I shared it early on in politics
to talk about--
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I went through a really
tough time when--
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what was it?
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2015.
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I got sick from mold illness
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and I never thought
I was going
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to be the same person.
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It was a leak, an HVAC leak that
happened in my building
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and it destroyed my insides.
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I mean, it started what's known
as Candidiosis growth in
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my body.
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I had-- I mean, overnight, I
felt like my whole life was
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taken from me.
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I couldn't think.
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And if you don't know what toxic
mold illness is, it's
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almost impossible
to describe.
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But I had head to toe
overnight eczema.
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I had never had eczema.
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Athletes foot, my eyes were red
and just kept pussing and I
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didn't know what it was.
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I didn't know what was happening,
why it was happening.
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My hair fell out and in the scheme
of everything that was
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going on, I-- the worst part of
it, forgetting the physical
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and not recognizing yourself
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in the mirror because
I mean, I
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could share worse photos
and he shared--
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I was like, if you want them
all, this is actually--
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I looked pretty good relative
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to what was going on
head to toe.
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But the worst part
was my brain.
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The only way to describe it
is you can't think.
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You can't-- it's almost like
being in a permanent--
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if you ever had like brain
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fog, imagine like the
most intense
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brain fog you could ever have
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and it just physically
exhausted
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me.
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So I was just in bed all
day, every day.
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And the only way to beat back
that sort of mold illness, I
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mean, they can give you temporary
pills, whatever, it's
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through diet, like the most regimented
diet because sugar
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is what feeds it.
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And so I-- it took me
a year to--
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and I never thought
I was going
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to be able to be myself
again.
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And that was the hardest part
is not being able to think.
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And I have relied--
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I didn't realize how much I
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had relied on my ability
to reply
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and I loved writing.
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And so it was--
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I just was--
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I remember just getting on my hands
and knees and praying--
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bargaining really actually with
God, which isn't something
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that you should do.
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But I was like, I don't even care
about the physical stuff.
295
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I don't care if my hair
never goes back.
296
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I don't care if I have these
patches all over my face
297
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forever, if they never
clear up.
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I don't care if I have athletes
foot once a week.
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Like, please just let
me think.
300
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Like, please just clear the
cloud in my brain.
301
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And I think about it because
it was right before I
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became a public figure.
303
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And I just now have the
perspective
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that I was truly humbled.
305
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Like truly humbled before
and never
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was going to look the same.
307
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And I never even realized
how much easier--
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how much I had relied on being
generally good looking
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to kind of get through life.
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I didn't want to see anybody.
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And I only saw my cousin, my cousin
who still works with me
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today, and would not go
out of the house
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because I was sleeping mostly
the whole time in any way.
314
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And it was a long process,
a very strict diet.
315
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Obviously, I got so skinny
because you kind of
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have to starve it.
317
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Yeah, you kind of have
to starve it.
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So anything that has sugar,
even fruit, feeds it.
319
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But in the retrospect, I learned
how to cook everything
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from scratch.
321
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I learned how to eat the
best ingredients.
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I learned about ingredients.
323
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And I became really passionate
about that.
324
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I mean, that's why I
garden today.
325
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So yeah, I was humbled.
326
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I was humbled right before I
got into the public sphere.
327
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And so I actually look back
on it quite fondly.
328
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And I think it kept me away from
a lot of the vanity that
329
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comes with politics
and publicity.
330
00:11:37,233 --> 00:11:39,633
Because I know it can just like
that be taken away from me.
331
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Man, wow.
332
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So it took you at your
lowest point
333
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and exploited it all over
the internet.
334
00:11:46,566 --> 00:11:47,666
Yeah, and then I shared
it with everybody.
335
00:11:47,733 --> 00:11:49,033
I was like, I've got
worse pictures.
336
00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:50,799
I mean, I was sick.
337
00:11:50,866 --> 00:11:52,166
I don't know.
338
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I guess you can go around and
find people when they have
339
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cancer and lose their hair and
put them on a Time magazine.
340
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I was very sick.
341
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But I'm really proud of it.
342
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It's such a weird thing.
343
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But I shared it myself.
344
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And so I think what happened
345
00:12:04,366 --> 00:12:05,866
was a lot of times with
his team,
346
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they just look for things
on the internet
347
00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:09,233
and they're trying to be
fast and respond.
348
00:12:09,299 --> 00:12:11,233
And they didn't know where the
source of that photo was.
349
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And it was me.
350
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I shared it back when I first
entered into politics
351
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and talked about a tough
time in my life.
352
00:12:17,866 --> 00:12:20,366
And yeah, I'm still just
very proud of it.
353
00:12:20,433 --> 00:12:24,600
And grateful, thank God I
got everything back,
354
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not just my brain.
355
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My hair came back.
356
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My skin cleared.
357
00:12:29,433 --> 00:12:32,233
And yeah, I'm very grateful.
358
00:12:32,833 --> 00:12:36,600
And well, I want to do a
life story on it.
359
00:12:36,666 --> 00:12:37,833
Actually, one more thing.
360
00:12:37,899 --> 00:12:39,133
Everybody gets a gift.
361
00:12:40,299 --> 00:12:40,966
What am I getting?
362
00:12:42,166 --> 00:12:43,299
I feel like everybody
gives a gift,
363
00:12:43,366 --> 00:12:44,799
but I don't have a life
that's cool enough
364
00:12:44,866 --> 00:12:46,066
to match all of these gifts.
365
00:12:46,366 --> 00:12:47,500
I actually love gummy bears.
366
00:12:47,566 --> 00:12:49,299
Are these actually elite?
367
00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:50,533
Yeah.
368
00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:51,566
They are elite gummy bears.
369
00:12:51,633 --> 00:12:51,833
Oh yeah.
370
00:12:51,899 --> 00:12:54,566
Because you can't like put vigilance
elite gummy bears
371
00:12:54,633 --> 00:12:55,799
on here if they're not elite.
372
00:12:56,233 --> 00:12:56,700
They're elite.
373
00:12:56,933 --> 00:12:57,366
Okay.
374
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Rip them open.
375
00:12:58,233 --> 00:12:58,966
I'm gonna have one.
376
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I'll be the judge of that.
377
00:13:00,433 --> 00:13:00,799
All right.
378
00:13:00,899 --> 00:13:01,333
All right, here we go.
379
00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,533
I love gummy bears.
380
00:13:05,633 --> 00:13:05,966
Good.
381
00:13:06,033 --> 00:13:06,266
Yeah.
382
00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:08,433
I'm gonna, they smell
really good.
383
00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:09,366
I will say that.
384
00:13:10,133 --> 00:13:11,466
They actually smell
really good.
385
00:13:12,133 --> 00:13:13,166
I love gummy bears.
386
00:13:14,466 --> 00:13:15,233
Of course, not with bread.
387
00:13:15,766 --> 00:13:16,399
What do you think?
388
00:13:18,766 --> 00:13:20,166
I'm not just saying this
because I'm under shot.
389
00:13:20,233 --> 00:13:20,866
They are really good.
390
00:13:21,633 --> 00:13:22,333
Why are they good?
391
00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:25,866
Well, because they're
made in the USA.
392
00:13:25,933 --> 00:13:26,266
That's it.
393
00:13:26,333 --> 00:13:26,700
I'll finish again.
394
00:13:26,766 --> 00:13:27,633
Merk a baby.
395
00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:28,200
That's right.
396
00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:30,299
250 years of elite
gummy bears.
397
00:13:32,033 --> 00:13:32,766
(laughing)
398
00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:34,166
Yeah, yeah.
399
00:13:34,899 --> 00:13:36,600
But all right, Candace.
400
00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:38,233
I want to do a life
story on you
401
00:13:38,299 --> 00:13:39,233
and then towards the end,
402
00:13:39,299 --> 00:13:41,066
we'll get into all the stuff
you've been digging into
403
00:13:41,133 --> 00:13:43,399
for about the past
year or two.
404
00:13:44,766 --> 00:13:45,733
So where'd you grow up?
405
00:13:47,133 --> 00:13:50,000
So I was born in New York
in White Plains.
406
00:13:50,933 --> 00:13:54,033
That's actually where my
mother grew up mostly
407
00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:55,533
and she went to high
school there.
408
00:13:55,966 --> 00:13:57,799
So a lot of my family's
in that area,
409
00:13:57,866 --> 00:13:59,100
Rye White Plains area.
410
00:13:59,166 --> 00:14:03,200
And then I went to school and
had my formative years
411
00:14:03,266 --> 00:14:04,366
in Stamford, Connecticut,
412
00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:06,500
which is just kind of outside
of the city.
413
00:14:07,266 --> 00:14:09,433
It's kind of like if you have
a job in the city
414
00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:10,500
and want to live in
the suburbs,
415
00:14:10,566 --> 00:14:13,033
you move to Greenwich,
Stamford, New Canaan,
416
00:14:13,366 --> 00:14:14,500
Fairfield County area.
417
00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:15,600
Okay.
418
00:14:16,433 --> 00:14:17,566
How many siblings
do you have?
419
00:14:17,833 --> 00:14:18,233
Three.
420
00:14:18,366 --> 00:14:19,966
I have a brother and I
have two sisters.
421
00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:21,266
What's your parents do?
422
00:14:22,066 --> 00:14:23,933
Well, my dad was a plumber
growing up
423
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,066
and my mother worked at a
chiropractic facility,
424
00:14:27,133 --> 00:14:29,133
sort of as the manager
425
00:14:29,333 --> 00:14:31,366
and did a lot of the billing
for them.
426
00:14:31,666 --> 00:14:32,066
Okay.
427
00:14:32,866 --> 00:14:33,533
You guys tight?
428
00:14:34,033 --> 00:14:34,600
Yes.
429
00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:35,399
Tight family?
430
00:14:35,466 --> 00:14:36,000
Yes.
431
00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:37,533
My parents are divorced,
432
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,299
so I mean, I guess you'd have
to ask independently
433
00:14:39,366 --> 00:14:40,333
everybody's relationships.
434
00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,166
But my sisters and
my siblings,
435
00:14:44,233 --> 00:14:46,066
we are very close.
436
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:48,966
You have to have people,
437
00:14:49,233 --> 00:14:50,466
especially in your life
that I live,
438
00:14:50,700 --> 00:14:52,100
who really deeply know you.
439
00:14:52,166 --> 00:14:53,799
And so in the morning time,
440
00:14:53,866 --> 00:14:54,866
every morning I would get up,
441
00:14:54,933 --> 00:14:56,466
when I work out, call
my sisters,
442
00:14:57,399 --> 00:14:58,666
and talk about everything.
443
00:14:58,733 --> 00:15:00,533
My sister, my little sister
right now,
444
00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,100
she's saving up some extra
money for her wedding.
445
00:15:03,166 --> 00:15:05,066
And so she's actually helping
me right now,
446
00:15:05,266 --> 00:15:06,633
sort through the tips box.
447
00:15:06,766 --> 00:15:09,533
So we weren't close growing
up though.
448
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,733
I mean, me and my sisters,
449
00:15:11,566 --> 00:15:13,733
each of us, we're a year
and a half apart.
450
00:15:14,133 --> 00:15:15,433
So we just bludgeoned
each other,
451
00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,766
over everything, pretty much.
452
00:15:18,033 --> 00:15:18,933
Where you fall in the lineup?
453
00:15:19,433 --> 00:15:20,266
In the middle, can't
you tell?
454
00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:22,733
(laughing)
455
00:15:23,066 --> 00:15:23,633
Can't you tell?
456
00:15:24,133 --> 00:15:25,600
Middle child syndrome,
it's a thing.
457
00:15:25,666 --> 00:15:26,666
It's a real thing.
458
00:15:27,366 --> 00:15:29,066
Shout out to everyone who's
a middle child
459
00:15:29,466 --> 00:15:30,433
in the world right now.
460
00:15:30,866 --> 00:15:31,266
Proud on.
461
00:15:34,366 --> 00:15:37,000
We talk a lot on this show
about how important it is
462
00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:39,266
for the military to modernize
faster,
463
00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:41,600
because there's no shortage
of good technology
464
00:15:41,666 --> 00:15:43,899
being built in the private
sector right now.
465
00:15:43,966 --> 00:15:46,899
The problem is getting that
technology into the hands
466
00:15:46,966 --> 00:15:48,399
of the people who actually
need it.
467
00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:49,833
And from everything
I've heard,
468
00:15:49,933 --> 00:15:51,333
working with the Department
of War
469
00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:53,266
can be incredibly difficult.
470
00:15:53,466 --> 00:15:56,233
Most companies have no idea
who to talk to,
471
00:15:56,299 --> 00:15:58,066
where the real decision
makers are,
472
00:15:58,133 --> 00:16:00,833
or how to actually secure
funding.
473
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,533
That's where SBIR Advisors
comes in.
474
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They've built a team of over 60
former acquisition officers
475
00:16:07,766 --> 00:16:10,033
to understand how that system
actually works.
476
00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:12,266
They help companies find
the right buyers,
477
00:16:12,633 --> 00:16:15,799
find funding, and write
winning proposals
478
00:16:15,866 --> 00:16:18,766
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479
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Since 2020, they've helped
small businesses
480
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government contracts.
481
00:16:25,266 --> 00:16:28,333
And what I like is they're
a veteran team
482
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focused on getting better
technology
483
00:16:30,433 --> 00:16:32,299
into the hands of war
fighters.
484
00:16:32,366 --> 00:16:35,133
If you're serious about selling
to the Department of War,
485
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go to sbiradvisors.com.
486
00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:42,833
That's sbiradvisors.com.
487
00:16:43,166 --> 00:16:44,399
And if you mention my name,
488
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you'll get your first
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489
00:16:47,433 --> 00:16:50,133
(logo thuds) What were you
into as a kid?
490
00:16:51,933 --> 00:16:52,700
What'd you like to do?
491
00:16:53,333 --> 00:16:57,633
I was always really into dance,
coordinating dances.
492
00:16:57,700 --> 00:16:59,033
I was very sporty.
493
00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:01,333
I think I took off through
my mom in that way.
494
00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:04,599
My mother played basketball
and cheer led
495
00:17:04,666 --> 00:17:05,533
when she was in high school.
496
00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:06,366
She didn't finish
high school.
497
00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:07,433
My mother's a high school
dropout.
498
00:17:07,833 --> 00:17:09,466
But she got pregnant.
499
00:17:09,533 --> 00:17:13,533
But when she was in high school,
she was very athletic.
500
00:17:13,833 --> 00:17:15,333
And so I kind of took after
my mom in that way.
501
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,433
So I did cheer lead in
high school.
502
00:17:17,500 --> 00:17:18,500
I did track and field.
503
00:17:18,966 --> 00:17:21,666
And we moved into my
grandfather's house
504
00:17:21,766 --> 00:17:23,400
when I was eight years old.
505
00:17:24,033 --> 00:17:25,666
I was just like a granddaddy's
girl.
506
00:17:25,733 --> 00:17:27,733
I was obsessed with
my grandfather
507
00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:32,233
and he just was always doing
stuff in the backyard.
508
00:17:33,066 --> 00:17:34,733
One of those old school guys,
509
00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:36,000
I think of my grandfather as
510
00:17:36,066 --> 00:17:39,733
having car grease on
his hands.
511
00:17:40,299 --> 00:17:41,366
That's what makes it like
my granddad,
512
00:17:41,666 --> 00:17:42,566
car oil on his hands.
513
00:17:42,633 --> 00:17:43,799
His hands were always
blackened
514
00:17:43,866 --> 00:17:45,933
and he always had a cloth
that was wiping them
515
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,799
and somehow always had cash
in his pocket
516
00:17:48,866 --> 00:17:51,433
and would give me and my
sister's cash.
517
00:17:52,733 --> 00:17:56,033
And I was always just kind of
fluffing around in the yard
518
00:17:56,099 --> 00:17:58,599
with my grandpa in the woods
doing stuff.
519
00:17:58,666 --> 00:18:01,233
So my sisters and I were
cutting worms,
520
00:18:01,299 --> 00:18:02,400
climbing trees.
521
00:18:02,866 --> 00:18:04,966
I was definitely, I would
say a tomboy.
522
00:18:05,233 --> 00:18:07,333
I just liked to be outside,
523
00:18:07,666 --> 00:18:10,133
which I think is very new
to this generation
524
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,000
and everything's behind the screen,
but we were active.
525
00:18:13,066 --> 00:18:15,599
We were very active, jump
roping, bike riding.
526
00:18:15,666 --> 00:18:17,066
Granddad taught me how
to ride a bike.
527
00:18:17,133 --> 00:18:18,333
Remember the day it happened.
528
00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:21,333
Yeah, I loved it being
outside.
529
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,433
Why did you move in with your
grandparents at age eight?
530
00:18:24,299 --> 00:18:25,266
Because we were poor.
531
00:18:26,533 --> 00:18:27,233
(laughs) So my-
532
00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:29,966
Did your parents move
in with you?
533
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,933
Yes, and it was, the house was
too small for all of us
534
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,200
to fit into it, but we
made it work.
535
00:18:34,266 --> 00:18:35,666
My grandfather came to the
536
00:18:35,733 --> 00:18:36,900
apartment that we were
living in,
537
00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:42,299
which was in this really sort
of dilapidated building
538
00:18:42,633 --> 00:18:43,866
and it had roaches.
539
00:18:44,266 --> 00:18:48,299
I was not, you're not aware
of those things so much
540
00:18:48,366 --> 00:18:48,966
when you're a kid.
541
00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:52,333
And so we just knew
that every,
542
00:18:52,533 --> 00:18:54,266
maybe it was once a month, I
couldn't even tell you,
543
00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:55,900
maybe it was less or more,
544
00:18:55,966 --> 00:18:58,233
but we'd have to sort of take
all the pots and pans
545
00:18:58,633 --> 00:19:01,566
out of the cabinets because
546
00:19:01,633 --> 00:19:02,366
the extremity would
have to come
547
00:19:02,433 --> 00:19:03,799
in spray because there
was roaches.
548
00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:07,766
And that's not, my mother kept
a very clean apartment
549
00:19:07,833 --> 00:19:10,233
actually, but it doesn't
matter in those sorts
550
00:19:10,299 --> 00:19:12,000
of environments you live like
your neighbors live.
551
00:19:12,066 --> 00:19:16,033
And so my grandfather just
came and said,
552
00:19:16,099 --> 00:19:17,533
I don't want my grandbabies
growing up like this
553
00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:19,033
because he worked really
hard in his life,
554
00:19:19,166 --> 00:19:22,966
starting at a sharecropping farm
and ending where he did.
555
00:19:23,099 --> 00:19:24,566
When my grandfather died,
he went back
556
00:19:24,633 --> 00:19:26,900
and actually purchased the sharecropping
farm in the South.
557
00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:30,666
That's where he retired, but
he was living up north
558
00:19:30,733 --> 00:19:32,700
at that time in Connecticut and
they had a middle-class
559
00:19:32,766 --> 00:19:34,566
house and he just said, I don't
want my grandbabies
560
00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:35,166
to grow up like this.
561
00:19:35,233 --> 00:19:39,266
So we moved into their house
and my sister and I
562
00:19:39,333 --> 00:19:42,633
lived in the attic, kind of he
put carpet down in the attic
563
00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:44,733
and turned it into a room, which
I thought was so cool
564
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,433
because I used to love the
show, Hey Arnold,
565
00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:49,633
and Hey Arnold had like
an attic too.
566
00:19:50,099 --> 00:19:51,033
It's a very, very good show.
567
00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:56,099
And my mother and father were
in the basement.
568
00:19:56,166 --> 00:19:59,900
So we just had to just kind
of all fit in the house.
569
00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:03,466
And it was the best thing I think
that could have happened
570
00:20:03,533 --> 00:20:04,266
for my life.
571
00:20:04,333 --> 00:20:05,900
It's the single greatest
thing
572
00:20:05,966 --> 00:20:06,933
that probably changed my life
573
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,200
is living with my grandparents
and sort of being
574
00:20:09,266 --> 00:20:13,366
under my grandfather's patriarchy,
if you will.
575
00:20:13,666 --> 00:20:14,566
Is he still alive?
576
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,200
No, my granddad passed a
couple of years ago.
577
00:20:17,266 --> 00:20:17,833
It's really hard.
578
00:20:18,366 --> 00:20:20,500
Is he seeing the rise
of Candace?
579
00:20:20,766 --> 00:20:21,700
Yeah, granddad.
580
00:20:22,066 --> 00:20:23,900
There was one of these really
viral moments
581
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,233
where I went to go testify
at Congress
582
00:20:26,533 --> 00:20:29,233
and my granddad was
behind me.
583
00:20:29,766 --> 00:20:30,866
It's a great clip.
584
00:20:31,666 --> 00:20:35,099
When Ted Lew says something,
I don't know what he,
585
00:20:35,233 --> 00:20:38,366
I think he played a clip of
me and tried to apply
586
00:20:38,433 --> 00:20:40,066
what I supported Adolf Hitler
or something.
587
00:20:40,133 --> 00:20:41,666
And you see my granddad in
the back, he's like,
588
00:20:41,933 --> 00:20:43,200
no, she did not say that.
589
00:20:43,266 --> 00:20:44,700
Like, no, she did not
say that.
590
00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:47,766
And I was like, granddad
was gonna get up
591
00:20:47,833 --> 00:20:49,299
and give Ted Lew a beat down.
592
00:20:49,766 --> 00:20:50,799
Nobody talks to his grandbaby
593
00:20:50,866 --> 00:20:52,599
like that, Ted Lew,
calm down.
594
00:20:52,666 --> 00:20:53,766
(both laughing)
595
00:20:53,966 --> 00:20:57,133
And such a, I'm so happy that
that was captured
596
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,966
actually on camera because
shortly after that,
597
00:20:59,766 --> 00:21:02,000
his mind started to
go and his
598
00:21:02,066 --> 00:21:03,400
memory started to go, I mean.
599
00:21:03,766 --> 00:21:07,166
And so it's just one of those
last memories
600
00:21:07,233 --> 00:21:08,000
that I have of my granddad.
601
00:21:08,066 --> 00:21:10,933
He was always behind me, whether
it was teaching me
602
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,533
how to ride a bike and letting
go or like behind me
603
00:21:13,966 --> 00:21:15,099
at, you know, in Congress.
604
00:21:15,166 --> 00:21:17,466
I just, like my grandparents were
just absolutely amazing.
605
00:21:17,633 --> 00:21:18,166
Wow.
606
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,766
What would you say to all my
viewer here today?
607
00:21:21,666 --> 00:21:24,166
I got to say everything I needed
to say to my granddad.
608
00:21:24,566 --> 00:21:25,833
That's good, good for you.
609
00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:27,599
Yeah, because my grandmother
died unexpectedly.
610
00:21:27,666 --> 00:21:31,700
And so I made a very conscious
decision to slow down
611
00:21:31,766 --> 00:21:35,500
and make sure that I got to say
everything to my granddad.
612
00:21:35,666 --> 00:21:36,633
He knows how much
I loved him.
613
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000
Good for you. Yeah.
614
00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:41,200
So you're with your
grandparents
615
00:21:41,266 --> 00:21:42,666
all the way through
high school?
616
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,000
Until 10th grade.
617
00:21:45,133 --> 00:21:46,833
And then we kind of moved
into a condo,
618
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:49,200
but I mean, all of my
formative years
619
00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,433
are with my grandparents
always being around
620
00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:54,766
and yeah, it was a,
621
00:21:56,466 --> 00:21:59,000
we wake up in the morning,
granddad made breakfast,
622
00:21:59,066 --> 00:22:01,366
you know, my grandmother
would make dinner
623
00:22:01,433 --> 00:22:05,033
and it was, my grandfather
just had a lot of rules
624
00:22:05,099 --> 00:22:07,299
for us to follow because he
grew up in the South
625
00:22:07,366 --> 00:22:08,866
and it was just like very
structured.
626
00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:11,133
And my work ethic comes from
627
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,866
my grandfather without
question.
628
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:13,766
Right on.
629
00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,633
He had a job since he was
five years old,
630
00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:20,000
like laying out tobacco to dry
on a sharecropping farm.
631
00:22:20,099 --> 00:22:22,900
So he just got after the
day every day.
632
00:22:23,366 --> 00:22:24,833
Wow, wow.
633
00:22:26,666 --> 00:22:28,433
How old were you when your
parents got divorced?
634
00:22:29,166 --> 00:22:30,633
23. Oh, 23.
635
00:22:31,166 --> 00:22:33,866
Yeah, they got, I mean,
my mom and my dad
636
00:22:33,933 --> 00:22:37,166
were just one of those
couples that--
637
00:22:37,366 --> 00:22:39,200
23? Yeah, 23.
638
00:22:39,266 --> 00:22:40,166
How long were they married?
639
00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:43,366
Oh gosh, I mean, they got
married in 93.
640
00:22:43,433 --> 00:22:44,599
So they got married after
I was born.
641
00:22:44,766 --> 00:22:46,799
And then they just were like,
642
00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:48,366
there was just a lot of
fighting, you know,
643
00:22:48,733 --> 00:22:50,200
it wasn't one of those good
relationships.
644
00:22:50,266 --> 00:22:53,266
And then when we were all
out of the house,
645
00:22:53,333 --> 00:22:55,166
they called and said that they
were getting a divorce.
646
00:22:55,233 --> 00:22:57,366
And at that point I remember
saying to my dad,
647
00:22:57,433 --> 00:22:59,566
no, no, no, no, now you guys
should stay together.
648
00:22:59,633 --> 00:23:02,366
Now it should be until death
do you part.
649
00:23:02,966 --> 00:23:04,099
Now that we're out
of the house,
650
00:23:04,166 --> 00:23:05,633
you're gonna suffer here.
651
00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:08,233
Remember exactly where
I was walking,
652
00:23:08,299 --> 00:23:09,566
exactly which street I
was walking on
653
00:23:09,633 --> 00:23:11,333
in New York state where
I got the call.
654
00:23:11,866 --> 00:23:16,233
And yeah, it was an
interesting thing
655
00:23:16,299 --> 00:23:19,200
because I got to see
in my house
656
00:23:19,266 --> 00:23:23,966
two totally different examples
of how to live.
657
00:23:24,033 --> 00:23:25,733
My grandparents were very
conservative
658
00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:29,000
and my grandfather met my grandmother
when he was 17
659
00:23:29,966 --> 00:23:32,200
and they stayed married until
her dying day.
660
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,266
And then I had the opposite
example
661
00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:37,566
where the generation beneath
my grandparents,
662
00:23:37,633 --> 00:23:38,933
despite how they had
raised them,
663
00:23:39,466 --> 00:23:40,433
they were just so different.
664
00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:42,466
Like all of my dad's siblings
had been divorced
665
00:23:42,533 --> 00:23:44,866
and it was a new culture.
666
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,799
When my granddad got sick or
started getting sick,
667
00:23:47,866 --> 00:23:51,599
I was helping him fix up his house
and we talked about it.
668
00:23:51,833 --> 00:23:55,933
And I was like, how do people
who are raised
669
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,933
and so conservatively
kind of have,
670
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,766
I guess, more liberal viewpoints
on marriage.
671
00:23:59,833 --> 00:24:02,400
And my granddad said something
and he was right.
672
00:24:03,366 --> 00:24:05,566
It's just the way he delivered
it, which is so funny,
673
00:24:05,633 --> 00:24:08,966
but he just said, it was
those darn hippies.
674
00:24:09,566 --> 00:24:11,566
He just says the hippies
ruined everything.
675
00:24:12,833 --> 00:24:14,966
And there's, it's a
valid point.
676
00:24:15,133 --> 00:24:17,400
I've done some research and I'm
like, granddad was right.
677
00:24:17,833 --> 00:24:19,700
They kind of brought in
this sort of sex,
678
00:24:19,766 --> 00:24:21,833
love, rock and roll, love
who you love.
679
00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:24,733
Everything became so much
more temporal, I guess.
680
00:24:25,133 --> 00:24:28,233
And I am just so my
681
00:24:28,299 --> 00:24:30,000
grandfather's child, like
my viewpoints.
682
00:24:30,066 --> 00:24:32,433
I'm going back where everybody
wants to be progressive.
683
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:33,799
I'm like, I want to
be regressive.
684
00:24:33,866 --> 00:24:36,299
I want some of that stuff
that granddad had.
685
00:24:37,299 --> 00:24:38,766
What did you want to
be as a child?
686
00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:41,500
What did you want to become,
architecturally?
687
00:24:41,566 --> 00:24:43,466
I was the first thing I wanted
to be an archeologist.
688
00:24:43,766 --> 00:24:44,700
An archeologist?
689
00:24:44,766 --> 00:24:47,433
Yes, I was really into, like,
690
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:48,566
as soon as I learned
about Egypt,
691
00:24:48,633 --> 00:24:50,566
I had this weird fascination
with Egypt.
692
00:24:50,633 --> 00:24:53,833
And just, I don't know, just,
I remember in third grade,
693
00:24:54,566 --> 00:24:55,533
wanting to be like, oh,
when I grew up,
694
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:56,533
I want to be an archeologist.
695
00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,566
That was my first thing I can
remember wanting to be.
696
00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:02,333
And then you'll probably
say appropriately,
697
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:04,866
I then was convinced I was
going to be a lawyer.
698
00:25:05,233 --> 00:25:05,933
I wanted to be a lawyer.
699
00:25:07,366 --> 00:25:07,400
(laughing)
700
00:25:07,466 --> 00:25:10,633
I would have made a really
good lawyer.
701
00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:11,333
You still would.
702
00:25:12,166 --> 00:25:13,133
It's never too late.
703
00:25:13,933 --> 00:25:15,233
It'd probably come in
handy for you.
704
00:25:15,766 --> 00:25:16,266
It would.
705
00:25:16,366 --> 00:25:18,200
I actually kind of feel like
I am a lawyer in many ways.
706
00:25:18,266 --> 00:25:19,166
I get sued so much.
707
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,566
And I really enjoy talking
to my lawyer.
708
00:25:21,633 --> 00:25:23,233
He's just become such
a friend.
709
00:25:23,299 --> 00:25:26,599
And understanding it, I love
to read the documents.
710
00:25:26,666 --> 00:25:28,799
I mean, other people
getting sued,
711
00:25:28,866 --> 00:25:30,833
I made a whole series in the
Blake Lively series.
712
00:25:31,266 --> 00:25:35,866
I do have a love for
legal work,
713
00:25:35,966 --> 00:25:38,866
but I don't have to be
sued to love it.
714
00:25:38,933 --> 00:25:40,266
I have to get that straight
in my mind.
715
00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:44,000
You don't have to be sued
to appreciate law.
716
00:25:45,533 --> 00:25:46,966
How many times do you think
you've been sued?
717
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:48,233
Too many.
718
00:25:49,533 --> 00:25:54,866
In the last few years, it's
been a lot, man.
719
00:25:54,933 --> 00:25:57,700
It's been like, I feel like
The Daily Wire
720
00:25:57,766 --> 00:26:00,866
was like three episodes
that happened,
721
00:26:00,933 --> 00:26:01,933
which felt like a lot.
722
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,799
And then I have obviously
the Brigitte one,
723
00:26:03,866 --> 00:26:04,966
which was a lot.
724
00:26:05,299 --> 00:26:07,633
And then I got pulled into
the Blake Lively one,
725
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:09,466
which isn't really like
being involved.
726
00:26:09,533 --> 00:26:10,966
They pulled me into some
Kanye one,
727
00:26:11,533 --> 00:26:14,700
not being the person who
was sued, but yeah.
728
00:26:15,266 --> 00:26:17,333
So I just kind of got familiar
with the people
729
00:26:18,099 --> 00:26:18,833
that were serving the
paperwork.
730
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:20,933
They're great guys, by the
way, the servers.
731
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,866
They're fantastic.
732
00:26:21,933 --> 00:26:24,700
They show up in like motorcycles,
like, we love you.
733
00:26:24,766 --> 00:26:27,599
Like, you know, and we're gonna
charge the other guys more.
734
00:26:27,666 --> 00:26:28,366
They're amazing.
735
00:26:28,433 --> 00:26:29,900
They're absolutely amazing.
736
00:26:30,166 --> 00:26:31,500
And then this Brian
Harpool one,
737
00:26:31,566 --> 00:26:33,966
which I'm being sued because
of your show.
738
00:26:34,533 --> 00:26:35,066
This is my show.
739
00:26:35,133 --> 00:26:36,533
Yeah, you know, I should
sue you.
740
00:26:37,166 --> 00:26:39,799
Brian Harpool's lawyer.
741
00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:41,533
I'm gonna drag you into
my lawsuit.
742
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:44,666
We have a running, every time
the FedEx truck drives
743
00:26:44,733 --> 00:26:46,766
around here, we're like, oh,
fuck, here it comes.
744
00:26:48,766 --> 00:26:49,833
I don't even open them
anymore.
745
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:50,933
I just send them to Tim.
746
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,033
So funny.
747
00:26:52,466 --> 00:26:54,466
Yeah, you know, yeah.
748
00:26:54,533 --> 00:26:56,400
Well, when Brian Harpool
sued me,
749
00:26:56,466 --> 00:26:58,200
his lawyer wrote this
amazing story,
750
00:26:58,266 --> 00:27:00,033
which was just made entirely
no sense,
751
00:27:00,533 --> 00:27:02,666
where he said that
the reason,
752
00:27:02,966 --> 00:27:04,133
basically they were trying
to make the argument
753
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,700
he's not a public figure,
which is very important.
754
00:27:06,766 --> 00:27:08,633
You have to establish
in defamation,
755
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:10,733
are you a public figure or
are you a private person?
756
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,299
And obviously he made himself
a public figure
757
00:27:12,366 --> 00:27:14,766
by going on this podcast and
interjecting himself
758
00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:16,066
into this Charlie narrative.
759
00:27:16,133 --> 00:27:18,133
So they were trying to argue that
he's not a public figure.
760
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,200
And he basically said he was
forced to become
761
00:27:20,266 --> 00:27:22,400
a public figure because
of me.
762
00:27:22,533 --> 00:27:24,400
Is that like, I'm the reason
he went on the,
763
00:27:24,466 --> 00:27:26,599
he had to go on the Sean Ryan
show to clear his name.
764
00:27:26,966 --> 00:27:29,033
And I never covered him
on my show once.
765
00:27:29,166 --> 00:27:30,333
Never spoke his name on my
766
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,633
show before he went
on your show.
767
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:33,066
Because it was-
768
00:27:33,133 --> 00:27:35,500
So hold on, he's claiming
he came here
769
00:27:35,933 --> 00:27:38,466
because to counter your
narrative,
770
00:27:38,866 --> 00:27:40,366
but you weren't talking
about him.
771
00:27:40,433 --> 00:27:43,766
Never said one word about him
or the security apparatus
772
00:27:43,833 --> 00:27:44,633
because I knew them.
773
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,566
And my mind just wasn't
there at all
774
00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:49,099
until he did your interview.
775
00:27:49,166 --> 00:27:51,599
And it was so disastrous
in my view.
776
00:27:52,066 --> 00:27:54,566
And I think also the view of all
the people who watched it,
777
00:27:54,633 --> 00:27:55,733
according to the comments,
778
00:27:56,033 --> 00:27:57,266
there was just something
off about it.
779
00:27:57,333 --> 00:27:59,866
And I went, whoa, he's answering
questions weird.
780
00:27:59,933 --> 00:28:01,633
The stuff that he's saying doesn't
really make sense.
781
00:28:02,033 --> 00:28:03,700
But that's the argument
they're trying to make
782
00:28:03,766 --> 00:28:06,533
because they're trying to get
the court to see him
783
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:09,233
as a private figure who only
had to come out
784
00:28:09,299 --> 00:28:10,700
and do the Sean Ryan show.
785
00:28:11,133 --> 00:28:13,200
One of the biggest podcasts
in the world
786
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:15,099
defend himself against me.
787
00:28:15,166 --> 00:28:17,299
And I'm like, well, that's gonna
be a tricky argument
788
00:28:17,366 --> 00:28:20,466
considering I never spoke about
you ever on my show
789
00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:21,366
until you did the Sean
Ryan show.
790
00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:23,066
So wait a minute, what
is, what exactly?
791
00:28:23,733 --> 00:28:24,866
He's, what?
792
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,333
It's crazy.
793
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,633
What is he suing you for?
794
00:28:27,766 --> 00:28:31,333
Defamation, which is
difficult for me
795
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,066
to comprehend because it's so
in the category of opinion.
796
00:28:35,133 --> 00:28:36,533
Like the first three pages
of a lawsuit,
797
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:38,099
he's just kind of calling
me an anti-Semite.
798
00:28:38,166 --> 00:28:39,400
And I don't know what
that has to do
799
00:28:39,633 --> 00:28:40,799
with the lawsuit at all.
800
00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:42,533
He's not Jewish, last
I checked.
801
00:28:43,133 --> 00:28:43,900
Neither was Charlie Kirk.
802
00:28:43,966 --> 00:28:48,666
But he then moves on by saying
that I defamed him
803
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,900
because I said that the security
team was incompetent.
804
00:28:52,166 --> 00:28:55,700
And so he's blaming me for
a loss of revenue
805
00:28:55,766 --> 00:28:57,833
to his business because I
said he's incompetent.
806
00:28:58,166 --> 00:29:00,700
Now, I would generally say,
if you have a business
807
00:29:00,766 --> 00:29:03,433
and your job is to provide
security
808
00:29:03,933 --> 00:29:07,033
and your client dies
on the job,
809
00:29:07,733 --> 00:29:09,799
that might be the reason you're
not getting many clients.
810
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:12,233
I'm not saying I'm a genius,
811
00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:14,566
but I don't think people
will be lining up
812
00:29:14,633 --> 00:29:16,799
to hire the same security
people
813
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,233
that guarded Charlie Kirk
on September 10th.
814
00:29:20,299 --> 00:29:22,066
But he thinks it's actually
because of me
815
00:29:22,466 --> 00:29:24,700
calling him among many
other things,
816
00:29:24,766 --> 00:29:25,799
calling him incompetent,
817
00:29:25,866 --> 00:29:27,900
asking questions about why
they didn't have people
818
00:29:27,966 --> 00:29:29,266
on the rooftop that day,
819
00:29:29,466 --> 00:29:31,566
saying that the support
they supplied
820
00:29:31,633 --> 00:29:33,166
to Charlie's neck was
inadequate.
821
00:29:33,266 --> 00:29:34,933
I mean, just things that you
can see with your own eyes
822
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,166
as they're handing him
to the car,
823
00:29:36,566 --> 00:29:38,599
how's they're holding
him to the car,
824
00:29:38,666 --> 00:29:41,000
him saying on your show that
they didn't provide CPR
825
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:42,466
because he had to stop
the bleeding.
826
00:29:42,533 --> 00:29:43,733
I have questions about that.
827
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,866
If your heart stops, what's
it matter
828
00:29:45,933 --> 00:29:46,866
if you stop the bleeding?
829
00:29:47,666 --> 00:29:50,633
So I'm going to stand
by my assessment
830
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:51,799
that he was incompetent.
831
00:29:52,233 --> 00:29:54,200
And then the second chunk
of his lawsuit
832
00:29:54,266 --> 00:29:57,900
is his saying that, I guess,
833
00:29:58,266 --> 00:30:00,900
defamation per se might
be his argument
834
00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:03,799
because I asked about whether
he was at Fort Huachuca
835
00:30:03,866 --> 00:30:05,666
because somebody believes
they saw him
836
00:30:05,733 --> 00:30:07,333
at Fort Huachuca on the 9th,
837
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,966
but he admits in a lawsuit that
I texted him four times,
838
00:30:12,066 --> 00:30:13,666
asking him just to say
yes or no.
839
00:30:13,733 --> 00:30:17,433
So I could just, you know,
very quickly say,
840
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:19,433
oh, I've reached out to him,
he said it wasn't him.
841
00:30:19,966 --> 00:30:22,133
But his reason for why he
didn't answer me,
842
00:30:22,433 --> 00:30:24,266
despite me trying to just
get an answer
843
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:27,333
and why he decided to just
instead sue me,
844
00:30:28,299 --> 00:30:32,133
was because, what was his
bizarre legal reason
845
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,333
for why he just didn't answer
any of my questions?
846
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:38,000
I think he said because, oh,
he didn't want me
847
00:30:38,066 --> 00:30:39,166
to get famous off of him.
848
00:30:40,099 --> 00:30:41,599
I promise you this is
his argument,
849
00:30:41,666 --> 00:30:43,033
is that the reason he
didn't answer--
850
00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:45,200
He didn't want you to get
famous off of him.
851
00:30:45,266 --> 00:30:47,333
That I was just going to
use it for clicks.
852
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:49,900
So if he had answered
me and said, no,
853
00:30:49,966 --> 00:30:51,700
I wasn't at Fort Huachuca,
854
00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:53,466
then I would have used
it for clicks
855
00:30:53,533 --> 00:30:56,333
and he didn't want me to
use him for clicks.
856
00:30:57,033 --> 00:30:59,433
So that is the thrust
of the lawsuit.
857
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:00,233
So what does he want?
858
00:31:00,299 --> 00:31:01,500
Does he sue on you for money?
859
00:31:01,933 --> 00:31:04,033
I think, yeah, he wants money
860
00:31:04,433 --> 00:31:07,133
and to be determined
by a jury
861
00:31:07,333 --> 00:31:09,333
because his business has
been affected.
862
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,966
So this shit's actually
going to court.
863
00:31:11,033 --> 00:31:13,766
Oh yeah, which I'm really
okay with
864
00:31:13,833 --> 00:31:14,633
because a lot of the
questions
865
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:15,799
that we're just trying
to get answered,
866
00:31:15,866 --> 00:31:18,200
we can now force him
to answer them
867
00:31:18,266 --> 00:31:20,566
and bring other people in too
to sit down for deposition.
868
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,833
Do you have a court date?
869
00:31:22,766 --> 00:31:24,766
Not yet, because we
still have to,
870
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,866
I think our, actually don't
quote me on that.
871
00:31:27,933 --> 00:31:29,000
I have to check in with
my lawyers.
872
00:31:29,066 --> 00:31:31,933
We might have like, I think we
have something coming up
873
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,500
or we have to file
our response
874
00:31:34,433 --> 00:31:35,799
like the next coming weeks
or something.
875
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,766
Where will it happen?
876
00:31:38,266 --> 00:31:38,633
Here.
877
00:31:39,066 --> 00:31:39,799
Here in Nashville?
878
00:31:39,866 --> 00:31:42,733
Yeah, yeah, he's got
to sue me here.
879
00:31:42,833 --> 00:31:44,700
This is where I defamed
him apparently.
880
00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:47,033
So I didn't know, did
he tell you?
881
00:31:47,099 --> 00:31:49,033
He was like really felt like
he had to do the show
882
00:31:49,099 --> 00:31:50,400
because of me, it's
very strange.
883
00:31:50,966 --> 00:31:51,666
I didn't get that.
884
00:31:51,766 --> 00:31:52,966
Yeah, it would have
been weird
885
00:31:53,033 --> 00:31:53,666
if I never talked about him.
886
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,599
Hey, can I come on because of Candace
not talking about me?
887
00:31:58,666 --> 00:32:00,366
It's weird, it's totally
wacky.
888
00:32:00,766 --> 00:32:02,766
It feels like a PR move to me
to be honest with you.
889
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,566
You think it'll go
the distance
890
00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:06,866
or you think they'll
just drop suit?
891
00:32:07,299 --> 00:32:11,099
I think they filed it in such
a sloppy manner
892
00:32:11,166 --> 00:32:12,566
that they're hoping the
court drops it.
893
00:32:12,833 --> 00:32:14,066
And then they can say,
well, we tried,
894
00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:15,000
we were telling the truth.
895
00:32:15,066 --> 00:32:17,166
And there was a lot of that
in the court system
896
00:32:17,233 --> 00:32:19,033
where people file for
PR reasons.
897
00:32:19,099 --> 00:32:21,000
I mean, Brigitte is a perfect
example of that
898
00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:24,599
where you're doing something
that you kind of know
899
00:32:24,666 --> 00:32:26,866
you can't win in court, but
it allows you to then say,
900
00:32:26,933 --> 00:32:27,766
well, we really tried.
901
00:32:27,833 --> 00:32:29,233
And obviously we must have
been telling the truth
902
00:32:29,299 --> 00:32:30,200
or we wouldn't have sued.
903
00:32:30,733 --> 00:32:32,299
And that's not the case.
904
00:32:32,366 --> 00:32:34,700
I have not changed my mind
about Brian Harpole
905
00:32:34,766 --> 00:32:39,166
and I was very thorough in
trying to just give him,
906
00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:40,333
give me a response.
907
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,900
Like I would have happily taken
a response from him
908
00:32:42,966 --> 00:32:44,233
and he still hasn't
offered one.
909
00:32:45,066 --> 00:32:45,533
He just sued me.
910
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:46,066
Yes.
911
00:32:47,366 --> 00:32:48,733
Do they have any other
clients?
912
00:32:49,966 --> 00:32:51,633
I don't know.
913
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:54,400
He hasn't, since it was just
the initial filing,
914
00:32:54,466 --> 00:32:57,633
we haven't gotten into the details
of who's not booking him
915
00:32:57,700 --> 00:32:58,766
or if someone dropped him,
916
00:32:58,833 --> 00:33:01,333
but that would just to me
seem like common sense,
917
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,700
especially when you say,
918
00:33:03,233 --> 00:33:04,700
I mean, if you watched his
interview with you,
919
00:33:04,766 --> 00:33:05,500
you wouldn't book him.
920
00:33:07,299 --> 00:33:08,166
It's just the presentation.
921
00:33:08,233 --> 00:33:09,500
I mean, I'm just curious
about it.
922
00:33:09,566 --> 00:33:09,700
Yeah.
923
00:33:10,633 --> 00:33:12,666
What did the defamation do?
924
00:33:13,433 --> 00:33:15,000
Is he still working for TPSU?
925
00:33:15,566 --> 00:33:17,900
He's not, my understanding is
he's not still working
926
00:33:17,966 --> 00:33:18,866
for Turning Point USA.
927
00:33:18,933 --> 00:33:21,233
And I did hear through
the grapevine
928
00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:23,833
that they sent him a cease
and desist
929
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:27,500
after all of the flack
that he got
930
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,099
for his various appearances,
931
00:33:30,166 --> 00:33:30,900
things that he was saying
932
00:33:30,966 --> 00:33:33,266
that was just making
things worse
933
00:33:33,733 --> 00:33:36,266
because he doesn't sound
honest when he speaks.
934
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:39,033
He's not clear and he's
also dishonest.
935
00:33:39,099 --> 00:33:42,266
I mean, he said, even when I
was watching your show
936
00:33:42,333 --> 00:33:43,700
and that was one of the
reasons we covered it
937
00:33:43,766 --> 00:33:45,833
was because we instantly
learned,
938
00:33:46,033 --> 00:33:47,400
he presented those messages
939
00:33:47,466 --> 00:33:48,866
when you asked him about
the rooftop,
940
00:33:49,433 --> 00:33:51,500
he shows these messages
and then he says,
941
00:33:51,566 --> 00:33:53,133
what am I supposed to
do with that?
942
00:33:54,566 --> 00:33:56,599
The implication being that
this is a conversation
943
00:33:56,666 --> 00:33:58,733
he was having, but it wasn't.
944
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:00,666
He was showing you Dan Flood's
text messages.
945
00:34:01,133 --> 00:34:04,166
So that was strange
and dishonest.
946
00:34:04,233 --> 00:34:08,633
And yeah, they were also,
947
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:11,166
the discussion wasn't even
about low C center.
948
00:34:11,233 --> 00:34:15,000
The discussion was about the
walkway above Charlie.
949
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,233
So it seemed like even when
he was on the show,
950
00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:21,366
he was focused on PR,
951
00:34:21,433 --> 00:34:23,233
but he just wasn't very
convincing.
952
00:34:23,633 --> 00:34:25,000
And that's literally
in the lawsuit
953
00:34:25,066 --> 00:34:27,233
that I described him as not
very convincing.
954
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,199
And that's defamatory.
955
00:34:29,466 --> 00:34:30,500
That's defamatory.
956
00:34:31,133 --> 00:34:32,066
And I stand by it.
957
00:34:32,133 --> 00:34:33,366
He wasn't very convincing.
958
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,433
Yeah, I probably should have
pressed him more.
959
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:37,133
I just, I fucking felt
bad though.
960
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,933
I mean, it was still really fresh
and the guys tear it.
961
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,800
I just, I've been around
a lot of loss.
962
00:34:44,866 --> 00:34:46,099
You don't have my previous
career.
963
00:34:46,166 --> 00:34:49,933
And so I didn't want to, I
wanted to be respectful.
964
00:34:50,733 --> 00:34:51,433
You know what I mean?
965
00:34:51,833 --> 00:34:52,233
But.
966
00:34:53,466 --> 00:34:56,033
Yeah, I think you did the
right thing actually,
967
00:34:56,633 --> 00:35:01,033
because even though the viewers
might feel frustration,
968
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:04,533
the reality is that if you had
put him under the light,
969
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:06,666
so to speak, he would
have clammed up.
970
00:35:07,433 --> 00:35:12,066
And we benefited a lot from
him just speaking.
971
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:13,866
I'm still benefiting from
him just speaking
972
00:35:13,933 --> 00:35:15,900
other parts of that conversation
that are being pulled
973
00:35:15,966 --> 00:35:19,166
and discussed, certainly for
my lawsuit's sake.
974
00:35:19,233 --> 00:35:24,033
It's beneficial that he kept describing
things in detail.
975
00:35:24,566 --> 00:35:27,366
So I think it was good to
sort of let him talk.
976
00:35:27,433 --> 00:35:29,699
What are some of the other
gems that you pulled out
977
00:35:29,766 --> 00:35:31,099
of my interview with
Brian Harp?
978
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:31,933
(laughs)
979
00:35:32,233 --> 00:35:38,800
I mean, there's, I think
at some point,
980
00:35:38,866 --> 00:35:39,666
I think it was your
interview,
981
00:35:39,733 --> 00:35:40,733
it might've been someone
else's,
982
00:35:41,033 --> 00:35:45,233
where he said that he, when
he got to the hospital
983
00:35:45,566 --> 00:35:48,599
and he's like directing the
staff or whatever,
984
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,166
and he like said that he cut
off Charlie's shirt.
985
00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:54,099
I mean, that's just,
that's fantasy.
986
00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:55,233
That's full fantasy.
987
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:56,233
That's not how that happens.
988
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:59,000
Everybody knows that when
you get to the ER
989
00:35:59,066 --> 00:36:00,466
and somebody is on
a stretcher,
990
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:02,333
some random guy who's bringing
the person in
991
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,166
doesn't start calling the
shots in the hospital.
992
00:36:04,533 --> 00:36:06,533
So there's a lot of questions
about
993
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,633
what took place at
the hospital,
994
00:36:08,699 --> 00:36:12,266
move to have the cameras as
one of the first acts
995
00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:14,500
to get the cameras down inside
of the hospital.
996
00:36:14,566 --> 00:36:15,466
It's very strange.
997
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:19,233
The varying stories that
they've all told
998
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:20,699
about what took place, why
999
00:36:20,766 --> 00:36:22,633
they were all then wearing
scrubs.
1000
00:36:23,266 --> 00:36:28,666
Frank Turek saying that he was
on the phone the whole time
1001
00:36:28,766 --> 00:36:30,666
with and didn't realize
with his--
1002
00:36:31,433 --> 00:36:32,199
Who's Frank Turek?
1003
00:36:32,633 --> 00:36:34,000
Frank Turek was another
one of the people
1004
00:36:34,066 --> 00:36:34,800
that was in the car.
1005
00:36:35,466 --> 00:36:39,500
And he, his former military,
he was there
1006
00:36:39,566 --> 00:36:41,300
and jumped in the car
with them.
1007
00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:42,766
By the way, that's
even weird.
1008
00:36:42,833 --> 00:36:44,066
And I don't know why he jumped
in the car with him,
1009
00:36:44,133 --> 00:36:45,199
to be honest with you.
1010
00:36:45,933 --> 00:36:49,733
And he was at the hospital and
he tells conflicting stories
1011
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,566
and says that they did
perform CPR.
1012
00:36:53,366 --> 00:36:54,733
It's all just very strange.
1013
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,233
It just seems like something,
1014
00:36:56,833 --> 00:36:59,633
why are all of your stories
running into each other?
1015
00:37:00,233 --> 00:37:01,500
How are those running
into each other?
1016
00:37:01,566 --> 00:37:02,166
What did they say?
1017
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:05,199
Some people are saying they
did give them CPR.
1018
00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:06,366
Some are saying they didn't.
1019
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:08,433
Brian said they did not
perform CPR
1020
00:37:09,333 --> 00:37:11,633
because they were focused on
stopping the bleeding.
1021
00:37:12,066 --> 00:37:13,900
Frank said that they did
perform CPR.
1022
00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:17,666
Brian said that Frank was just
in the backseat praying.
1023
00:37:18,666 --> 00:37:21,533
Frank said that he
got involved,
1024
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,699
which is the reason why he
had all the blood on him
1025
00:37:23,766 --> 00:37:24,266
or whatever.
1026
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,333
So the discrepancy between the
people that are in the car
1027
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,766
doesn't really make sense.
1028
00:37:30,133 --> 00:37:32,266
I mean, I don't know,
do you give CPR
1029
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,000
if somebody's been shot in
the fucking neck?
1030
00:37:34,966 --> 00:37:37,133
Well, if you don't keep
someone's heart going,
1031
00:37:38,233 --> 00:37:39,333
it doesn't matter, right?
1032
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,900
Nothing else matters if your
heart stops pumping.
1033
00:37:42,366 --> 00:37:45,766
So yeah, you would give CPR,
I would imagine.
1034
00:37:45,833 --> 00:37:47,933
You keep CPR going
at all times.
1035
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,066
I'm certainly not a medical
professional,
1036
00:37:50,133 --> 00:37:52,599
but I do know if your heart
stops, you're dead.
1037
00:37:52,666 --> 00:37:54,766
So you gotta keep the
heart going.
1038
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:58,366
And them not having the
ambulance on standby.
1039
00:37:58,866 --> 00:37:59,900
I'm not standing up for them.
1040
00:37:59,966 --> 00:38:02,266
I don't know if you
would do CPR.
1041
00:38:02,333 --> 00:38:03,599
What would be the point of,
1042
00:38:04,166 --> 00:38:05,633
if your heart's not going,
your heart's not going.
1043
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,466
And I'm not even saying,
and by the way,
1044
00:38:07,533 --> 00:38:11,966
I'm not even saying that
what was right
1045
00:38:12,033 --> 00:38:13,566
or what was wrong to do.
1046
00:38:13,633 --> 00:38:14,533
You're saying that stories
are inconsistent.
1047
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:16,566
I'm saying that stories are
not consistent.
1048
00:38:16,866 --> 00:38:18,866
And that's what has been
so troublesome
1049
00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:20,633
for people that are investigating
this.
1050
00:38:20,699 --> 00:38:22,933
It's why do you guys all have
different stories?
1051
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,500
Why are there so many lies that
have since been unpacked?
1052
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,599
And initially they said a
lot in the beginning
1053
00:38:29,666 --> 00:38:32,433
and they've since pivoted on
their stories quite a bit.
1054
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:35,400
Why do you think that they
repaved that thing?
1055
00:38:35,566 --> 00:38:36,900
How many days afterwards?
1056
00:38:37,233 --> 00:38:40,933
Because by Sunday, they had
1057
00:38:41,433 --> 00:38:42,533
the person coming out
of Sunday.
1058
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:45,566
So Charlie got shot at 12,
23 on a Wednesday
1059
00:38:45,666 --> 00:38:48,766
and they had early morning on
Sunday, pavers come in.
1060
00:38:49,433 --> 00:38:51,733
And even before then, they
had the soil removed
1061
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,933
by a separate group
of people.
1062
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,366
They had the soil removed?
1063
00:38:54,433 --> 00:38:57,500
The soil removed first, 10 inches
of soil removed first.
1064
00:38:57,933 --> 00:39:00,966
Do they do that at any other
murder scene anywhere?
1065
00:39:01,966 --> 00:39:02,599
Absolutely not.
1066
00:39:02,666 --> 00:39:03,699
The soil removed?
1067
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,000
Why the fuck would they have
the soil removed?
1068
00:39:05,066 --> 00:39:07,033
Well, their excuse is we were
putting down pavers.
1069
00:39:07,099 --> 00:39:11,133
So it is normal to remove
soil to put down pavers.
1070
00:39:11,966 --> 00:39:13,233
But why were you putting
down pavers?
1071
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:15,133
Why were you paving over
the crime scene?
1072
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,366
And in that scenario, I think
you normally do
1073
00:39:17,833 --> 00:39:21,066
from somebody that is in that
space said that
1074
00:39:21,133 --> 00:39:22,233
about eight inches you
would remove
1075
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:23,566
so that you can install
the pavers.
1076
00:39:23,833 --> 00:39:25,166
They removed 10 inches
of soil
1077
00:39:25,233 --> 00:39:26,633
and they had two separate
people do it.
1078
00:39:27,033 --> 00:39:29,233
So they had people working
for the government
1079
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,166
that removed the 10 inches
of soil.
1080
00:39:31,233 --> 00:39:34,066
And then the next day, the
pavers came in
1081
00:39:34,133 --> 00:39:35,033
and put in the pavers.
1082
00:39:35,366 --> 00:39:36,199
That's not normal.
1083
00:39:36,333 --> 00:39:37,933
You have the same group of
people that do both.
1084
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,699
So they wanted, they had the
dirt removed first.
1085
00:39:40,766 --> 00:39:42,733
And so we'd have to imagine
that that happened
1086
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:45,866
Saturday at the latest,
right?
1087
00:39:46,033 --> 00:39:47,833
And, cause then by Sunday
morning,
1088
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:52,166
the guy who had to put together
a ragtag team
1089
00:39:52,233 --> 00:39:54,300
to do the paving, he did an interview
and spoke about it
1090
00:39:54,366 --> 00:39:57,466
and said he was told that
the instructions
1091
00:39:57,533 --> 00:39:59,400
were coming down from the
governor of Utah
1092
00:39:59,466 --> 00:40:01,166
and the cash Mattels office.
1093
00:40:04,933 --> 00:40:05,933
Probably a good guy to
put on the stand.
1094
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,699
What do you think would have
been in the soil?
1095
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,199
I'm, you know, I've taken a long
time to get to a place
1096
00:40:12,266 --> 00:40:15,000
where I wanted to put
forth a theory
1097
00:40:15,066 --> 00:40:16,166
on what happened that day.
1098
00:40:16,533 --> 00:40:19,133
I think there is a lot
of evidence
1099
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:21,833
that they would have found
explosives,
1100
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:28,199
which if I guess the way PETN
is said is like,
1101
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:28,800
what do you guys say?
1102
00:40:29,133 --> 00:40:30,500
Petton. Petton.
1103
00:40:30,833 --> 00:40:33,400
I'm trying to learn all
the inside terms
1104
00:40:33,466 --> 00:40:34,699
and sound like I know what
I'm talking about
1105
00:40:34,766 --> 00:40:36,300
on all the military
guys stuff.
1106
00:40:36,366 --> 00:40:39,300
But if Petton was the explosive
that was used,
1107
00:40:39,633 --> 00:40:42,133
and I think there was
a strong theory
1108
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:43,066
that should be explored,
1109
00:40:43,833 --> 00:40:45,699
that a shape charge was
used to kill him
1110
00:40:45,766 --> 00:40:47,300
and that what killed
him was on him.
1111
00:40:47,966 --> 00:40:53,966
If you look into Petton, it
is pretty resistant.
1112
00:40:54,433 --> 00:40:55,533
It stays on soil.
1113
00:40:56,433 --> 00:40:58,833
There you can read tons of
articles about it.
1114
00:40:58,933 --> 00:41:00,433
It's you just have to
remove the soil.
1115
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:01,699
So you think that they--
1116
00:41:02,266 --> 00:41:03,066
I think there was explosives.
1117
00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:05,433
I think that explains as I
was unpacking on my show,
1118
00:41:05,966 --> 00:41:08,300
a lot of the holes in the story
that didn't make sense.
1119
00:41:08,866 --> 00:41:10,966
If you run the theory that
he was killed
1120
00:41:11,033 --> 00:41:14,900
with a PE Petton shape
charge,
1121
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,800
then they all suddenly start
to make sense
1122
00:41:17,866 --> 00:41:19,599
why they wouldn't bring
the bomb dogs over
1123
00:41:19,666 --> 00:41:20,500
to where Charlie died.
1124
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,599
See, we almost,
1125
00:41:21,933 --> 00:41:25,233
I can't remember what this
guy name, his name is,
1126
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:27,033
but my editor, you were just
chatting with him.
1127
00:41:27,566 --> 00:41:28,766
He brought it to my
attention.
1128
00:41:28,833 --> 00:41:31,566
He was chatting with this guy
right after it happened.
1129
00:41:31,633 --> 00:41:33,000
So I guess almost a year ago.
1130
00:41:33,766 --> 00:41:37,500
And once I just never
know what,
1131
00:41:37,933 --> 00:41:40,500
so many fucking people are trying
to get clicks and shit.
1132
00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:40,966
You know what I mean?
1133
00:41:41,033 --> 00:41:43,866
That I'm like, I don't
think it adds up.
1134
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,933
And you would describe how
it was gonna work
1135
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,533
or how it was supposedly
worked.
1136
00:41:50,099 --> 00:41:51,300
And yeah, it was shape
charged
1137
00:41:51,366 --> 00:41:52,566
inside the microphone, right?
1138
00:41:53,699 --> 00:41:53,900
Yeah.
1139
00:41:53,966 --> 00:41:55,800
And they had all these videos
1140
00:41:55,866 --> 00:41:57,433
that show the blast and
everything,
1141
00:41:57,500 --> 00:41:59,900
but I don't know what's
AI and what isn't.
1142
00:41:59,966 --> 00:42:01,099
I don't fucking believe
anything.
1143
00:42:01,166 --> 00:42:03,500
And unless it's literally right
in front of my face,
1144
00:42:03,566 --> 00:42:06,666
then I still don't believe
most of it.
1145
00:42:07,166 --> 00:42:09,433
But to have a,
1146
00:42:09,533 --> 00:42:12,633
the thing that really got me
was to have a microphone
1147
00:42:12,699 --> 00:42:14,866
on a loose shirt when he's
up at a chair,
1148
00:42:14,933 --> 00:42:16,099
like moving around.
1149
00:42:17,033 --> 00:42:17,466
It just-
1150
00:42:17,666 --> 00:42:18,933
Mic on the inside,
by the way.
1151
00:42:19,433 --> 00:42:20,466
Mic on the inside?
1152
00:42:20,833 --> 00:42:22,099
Yeah, the mic is on the
microphone,
1153
00:42:22,166 --> 00:42:23,566
which is totally senseless.
1154
00:42:23,633 --> 00:42:25,199
Wait, was it taped
to his chest?
1155
00:42:25,266 --> 00:42:27,300
What you see on the outside
is the magnet
1156
00:42:27,366 --> 00:42:29,066
that's holding the mic that's
on the inside,
1157
00:42:29,766 --> 00:42:31,566
which like any person who
mics you knows,
1158
00:42:31,633 --> 00:42:32,766
you don't put the mic
on the inside
1159
00:42:32,833 --> 00:42:34,733
because you get the sound
1160
00:42:35,233 --> 00:42:36,800
and they were putting it
on the inside.
1161
00:42:36,866 --> 00:42:39,033
Like you might do that if
it's a super windy day
1162
00:42:39,099 --> 00:42:39,900
or cold day to avoid
the wind.
1163
00:42:39,966 --> 00:42:42,300
Interesting, I thought it was
that fucking new DJI mic
1164
00:42:42,366 --> 00:42:42,900
that everybody's using.
1165
00:42:42,966 --> 00:42:44,533
No, it's a Rode Mic,
a Rode Mic Pro.
1166
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:45,733
So that's just the metal,
1167
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,933
that's just the magnetic clasp
that's on the outside.
1168
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,633
They put it on the inside.
1169
00:42:52,333 --> 00:42:53,599
Which they started doing,
1170
00:42:54,266 --> 00:42:55,466
it was a new thing.
1171
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:57,900
It was just a new thing that
they were doing.
1172
00:42:57,966 --> 00:42:59,133
And so-
1173
00:42:59,266 --> 00:43:00,633
How long have you been
tracking this?
1174
00:43:01,066 --> 00:43:01,900
How long had I been tracking-
1175
00:43:01,966 --> 00:43:02,766
Microphone thing.
1176
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:06,300
I actually, so I always try
to approach things
1177
00:43:06,366 --> 00:43:08,699
with just what do I observe
of my own eyes?
1178
00:43:09,333 --> 00:43:12,266
And when I brought myself to
being able to watch
1179
00:43:12,333 --> 00:43:13,633
the footage of Charlie dying,
1180
00:43:13,699 --> 00:43:15,666
the first thing I thought was
that he was shot from below.
1181
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:18,333
Because I watched his
shirt go out
1182
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,566
and I watched the friction
of his body
1183
00:43:20,633 --> 00:43:24,633
and I saw that his necklace
broke before he was hit.
1184
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,800
I thought that was
so strange.
1185
00:43:25,866 --> 00:43:27,066
I was like, somebody
explain to me
1186
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,800
why if someone shot
him from above
1187
00:43:28,866 --> 00:43:30,833
his necklace would
break first
1188
00:43:31,633 --> 00:43:33,599
and whip this way,
1189
00:43:33,766 --> 00:43:35,433
because necklace whips
this way
1190
00:43:35,833 --> 00:43:37,400
and then he gets hit.
1191
00:43:37,566 --> 00:43:39,033
And then he, and I was like,
1192
00:43:39,099 --> 00:43:40,199
so I just in my head,
1193
00:43:40,566 --> 00:43:41,966
and I was assuming that
it was a gun,
1194
00:43:42,966 --> 00:43:43,833
I think someone was
under him.
1195
00:43:45,766 --> 00:43:46,466
That's the only thing
I would explain
1196
00:43:46,533 --> 00:43:48,033
his shirt doing whatever.
1197
00:43:48,966 --> 00:43:51,633
And then I saw John Bray, who
you're referring to.
1198
00:43:52,033 --> 00:43:56,466
He was online and he was talking
about this explosive.
1199
00:43:56,533 --> 00:44:00,300
And I saw that and I
was in my head
1200
00:44:00,366 --> 00:44:02,766
with my limited knowledge on
what he was speaking about.
1201
00:44:03,333 --> 00:44:04,533
I went, oh, well, it's not
gonna be explosive.
1202
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:05,533
Because then if it
was a bomb,
1203
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:06,966
Charlie would have been
burned and charred
1204
00:44:07,033 --> 00:44:09,599
and I knew that his body was
not burned and charred.
1205
00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:12,466
And so I, but I kept
following him.
1206
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:18,099
And what happened was we got
exclusively the car photos.
1207
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,233
The car that transported Charlie
to the hospital,
1208
00:44:22,666 --> 00:44:23,633
what that car looked like,
1209
00:44:23,699 --> 00:44:25,433
which they tried very quickly
to get rid of that car.
1210
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:29,099
They towed it, had it sent
for like to be cleaned
1211
00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:31,666
and resold, which is also
an absolute nonsense
1212
00:44:31,733 --> 00:44:33,500
that car would have been
put into evidence.
1213
00:44:34,166 --> 00:44:37,099
But when I saw the car picks,
1214
00:44:37,166 --> 00:44:38,599
first thing I said was, oh,
that's so weird.
1215
00:44:39,333 --> 00:44:41,300
Well, why is there black
glass on the floor?
1216
00:44:41,833 --> 00:44:44,300
Right away, just like
a ton of black,
1217
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:47,199
what looked to my eye as glass
shards on the floor.
1218
00:44:47,766 --> 00:44:51,333
And John Bray messaged me and
he said, on X, he said,
1219
00:44:53,366 --> 00:44:54,933
I just watched your episode,
1220
00:44:55,099 --> 00:44:57,733
that's exactly what I was looking
for to support my theory.
1221
00:44:58,366 --> 00:44:59,933
And then I said, what
do you mean?
1222
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,900
He said, I've been saying that
his road mic was rigged,
1223
00:45:01,966 --> 00:45:03,400
but in order for my theory
to be true,
1224
00:45:03,933 --> 00:45:05,066
the road mic would have
had to explode
1225
00:45:05,133 --> 00:45:08,066
into a million pieces and that
would have been on Charlie
1226
00:45:08,133 --> 00:45:10,099
and they would have had to get
that off of him in the car.
1227
00:45:10,966 --> 00:45:14,033
And so I went, well, I have
the car photos
1228
00:45:14,099 --> 00:45:15,599
and there's very clearly.
1229
00:45:15,766 --> 00:45:18,833
Now to play devil's advocate,
as I always try to do,
1230
00:45:19,433 --> 00:45:21,800
it could have been somebody
sunglasses they stepped on
1231
00:45:22,233 --> 00:45:23,300
that broke into a million.
1232
00:45:23,366 --> 00:45:25,433
It looks, it's a lot
of glass.
1233
00:45:25,566 --> 00:45:27,066
It's in the seat that
Charlie was on.
1234
00:45:27,333 --> 00:45:30,866
It's behind, it's, I mean,
hard plastic, 80, 80,
1235
00:45:30,933 --> 00:45:32,199
I think it's called
ABS plastic.
1236
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,333
And if you watch videos, people
just smashing a road mic,
1237
00:45:36,466 --> 00:45:37,599
that's exactly what
it looks like
1238
00:45:37,666 --> 00:45:38,633
is littered all over
the floor.
1239
00:45:39,233 --> 00:45:44,033
So now we have to say, why did
his necklace break first,
1240
00:45:44,433 --> 00:45:47,500
then his road mic break
second?
1241
00:45:47,866 --> 00:45:49,833
And we're looking at, now we're
looking at a trajectory,
1242
00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:51,933
right, before he gets hit.
1243
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,533
And you do see it
move across,
1244
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:55,233
like if you watch the
video again,
1245
00:45:55,666 --> 00:45:56,966
without trying to be
an expert,
1246
00:45:57,033 --> 00:45:58,766
if you just sometimes look
at a video and say,
1247
00:45:58,833 --> 00:45:59,733
what do you see?
1248
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,833
Slow it down, what do you
observe happening?
1249
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:03,300
And that is what you observe.
1250
00:46:03,366 --> 00:46:05,766
You observe something moving
across his chest
1251
00:46:06,266 --> 00:46:08,699
and then suddenly you see
a wound here.
1252
00:46:10,433 --> 00:46:11,699
And that was my starting
point.
1253
00:46:12,033 --> 00:46:15,633
And so I never bought the
idea that he was on,
1254
00:46:16,066 --> 00:46:17,400
somebody shot him from
a lozy rooftop.
1255
00:46:17,466 --> 00:46:18,533
That made no sense to me,
1256
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:22,133
that nobody saw him, shoot him,
is even crazier to me.
1257
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:24,566
This is a college campus in
the middle of the day.
1258
00:46:24,766 --> 00:46:26,633
Somebody would have seen
him take a shot.
1259
00:46:27,133 --> 00:46:33,066
And so then what added
to me thinking
1260
00:46:33,133 --> 00:46:38,000
this is now very plausible
was the 30-06 super neck,
1261
00:46:40,033 --> 00:46:41,433
super man neck, you know?
1262
00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:44,133
Now you're asking us
to be idiots.
1263
00:46:44,733 --> 00:46:46,866
Now the demand is for
us to be idiots
1264
00:46:46,933 --> 00:46:51,300
and they did it in such an
emotionally manipulative,
1265
00:46:51,366 --> 00:46:54,933
despicable way, which has now become
the turning point way,
1266
00:46:55,133 --> 00:46:58,633
which is the just say God,
the Lord, the miracle,
1267
00:46:59,833 --> 00:47:00,933
and if you don't believe
in it,
1268
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,266
then you don't believe in God
1269
00:47:02,333 --> 00:47:03,400
and you're not honoring God
1270
00:47:03,466 --> 00:47:06,066
if you don't believe in the
miracle of this.
1271
00:47:06,533 --> 00:47:09,866
This was the biggest lie
that Erika told me
1272
00:47:10,300 --> 00:47:13,466
and completely transformed
my opinion of her.
1273
00:47:15,533 --> 00:47:17,833
I think, you know, I sat down
with her for four hours.
1274
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:21,933
I was reticent to explore any
conspiracies about her.
1275
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:26,266
I was slow to do it because
first and foremost,
1276
00:47:26,333 --> 00:47:27,466
she's the mother of Charlie's
kids.
1277
00:47:28,433 --> 00:47:30,000
That's first and foremost.
1278
00:47:30,666 --> 00:47:34,733
Secondly, it required me to
have to go through
1279
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:37,733
a second stage of grief that
I was not ready to do.
1280
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,733
I had a very hard time with
Charlie's death, still do,
1281
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,300
but to be the person that Charlie
was speaking to so much
1282
00:47:45,366 --> 00:47:49,300
about how much he wanted
love to,
1283
00:47:49,566 --> 00:47:52,099
when I had to take time off
and just go to Wyoming
1284
00:47:52,166 --> 00:47:53,500
and try to get my head
right after it,
1285
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:56,300
I read through all of our
messages, you know?
1286
00:47:56,366 --> 00:47:58,300
And so I relived it all and,
1287
00:47:58,366 --> 00:48:01,466
because you just, you know, I
was in a phase of denial.
1288
00:48:01,833 --> 00:48:04,933
I was really at that phase
where I was hoping
1289
00:48:05,033 --> 00:48:07,699
and I went through bargaining,
I went through anger,
1290
00:48:07,766 --> 00:48:09,966
I went through a very aggressive
stage of denial,
1291
00:48:10,033 --> 00:48:11,466
and I think my husband
was realizing
1292
00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:13,733
that I needed to get away
at that point
1293
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,500
because I was trying
to say like,
1294
00:48:15,566 --> 00:48:17,000
no, maybe he's really alive.
1295
00:48:17,066 --> 00:48:19,133
Like, you know, maybe they put
him in witness protection.
1296
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:20,433
Like, that's that bargaining.
1297
00:48:21,366 --> 00:48:24,599
And then also the denial
that's just in my face.
1298
00:48:24,666 --> 00:48:28,266
And when I got out there, I
was reading the messages,
1299
00:48:28,333 --> 00:48:30,766
and before she came
into his life,
1300
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:34,866
and Charlie just really, really,
really wanted love, right?
1301
00:48:35,433 --> 00:48:36,599
That was like it.
1302
00:48:36,666 --> 00:48:38,633
And he was almost
like poetic,
1303
00:48:38,699 --> 00:48:42,500
but he was writing about how
love could kind of
1304
00:48:42,566 --> 00:48:43,866
make men move mountains.
1305
00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:49,533
And so for me to have
to mourn him
1306
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:52,599
and then have to consider
that the thing
1307
00:48:52,666 --> 00:48:54,433
that he wanted most, like
he didn't get,
1308
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:56,466
it just gutted me.
1309
00:48:57,633 --> 00:48:58,300
It gutted me.
1310
00:48:58,366 --> 00:49:00,566
And so, but I couldn't
deny it anymore.
1311
00:49:00,633 --> 00:49:03,000
I couldn't deny it and it was
beyond intuition.
1312
00:49:03,066 --> 00:49:04,533
It was beyond her
being weird.
1313
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:06,599
It was beyond her being
at the office.
1314
00:49:06,666 --> 00:49:11,300
And then I got the
Zoom calls.
1315
00:49:11,966 --> 00:49:14,933
My assumption was that she
was grieving like I was.
1316
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,400
And my assumption, I didn't
know she was in the office
1317
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:18,400
the next week.
1318
00:49:19,033 --> 00:49:19,833
As soon as she got back,
1319
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:21,033
she just went straight
to the office.
1320
00:49:21,466 --> 00:49:23,166
She was in the office
the next week.
1321
00:49:23,433 --> 00:49:25,233
As soon as she gave that
speech at the podium
1322
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:28,599
that you saw where she
addressed the nation,
1323
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:30,033
not the I forgive him speech,
1324
00:49:30,099 --> 00:49:31,366
but like the first one that
1325
00:49:31,433 --> 00:49:32,966
was like 48 hours after
he died,
1326
00:49:33,666 --> 00:49:34,599
she was in the office
that whole week.
1327
00:49:37,866 --> 00:49:39,966
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healthier means
1328
00:49:40,033 --> 00:49:42,566
adding more and more things
to the routine.
1329
00:49:42,633 --> 00:49:45,733
More supplements, more tracking,
more protocols,
1330
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,599
more complicated systems.
1331
00:49:47,666 --> 00:49:48,699
But the older I get,
1332
00:49:48,766 --> 00:49:50,699
the more I think it comes
down to getting
1333
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1334
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1335
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1340
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So you're supporting the
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1342
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00:50:16,466 --> 00:50:18,199
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1344
00:50:18,266 --> 00:50:20,833
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1346
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1348
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1349
00:50:30,833 --> 00:50:32,099
because this is something I'm
1350
00:50:32,166 --> 00:50:34,066
putting into my body
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1351
00:50:34,133 --> 00:50:35,533
And I want it to come
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1352
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1359
00:50:56,666 --> 00:50:57,666
Dude, I'll be honest.
1360
00:50:58,033 --> 00:51:00,233
When I saw the funeral
1361
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:02,000
Is that where we're
calling it?
1362
00:51:03,099 --> 00:51:05,733
Of her like posting Instagram
stories
1363
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,400
or whatever it was of her like
rubbing his dead body.
1364
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,833
I was like, what the fuck
is this dude?
1365
00:51:11,099 --> 00:51:11,666
What is that?
1366
00:51:11,733 --> 00:51:11,933
Yep.
1367
00:51:12,433 --> 00:51:12,900
And then--
1368
00:51:12,966 --> 00:51:14,400
You're using your
dead husband
1369
00:51:14,466 --> 00:51:16,633
as a fucking social
media post?
1370
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,199
And beyond that, and again,
me ignoring it,
1371
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:22,433
ignoring all of it.
1372
00:51:23,166 --> 00:51:25,833
And then it was just actually
1373
00:51:26,099 --> 00:51:27,533
on the day that your husband
gets shot,
1374
00:51:27,933 --> 00:51:29,400
you didn't have a single one
1375
00:51:29,466 --> 00:51:30,466
of your family members
go with you.
1376
00:51:31,699 --> 00:51:35,566
That one family member or friend
went with Erica to Utah.
1377
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:37,166
Wow.
1378
00:51:38,133 --> 00:51:41,000
She went with the person that's
holding her in the photo
1379
00:51:41,433 --> 00:51:42,666
when his body's coming off
the Air Force.
1380
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,033
Could you imagine not having
your mom, your brother,
1381
00:51:45,099 --> 00:51:46,833
your sister, your cousin, your
best friend, I don't know,
1382
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:49,666
like your A1 since day one
from high school with you
1383
00:51:49,733 --> 00:51:50,800
when that goes down.
1384
00:51:51,566 --> 00:51:54,266
No, she was every, in every single
one of those videos,
1385
00:51:54,333 --> 00:51:57,733
she's with the head fundraiser
of Turning Point USA.
1386
00:51:58,233 --> 00:52:00,300
The person holding her,
hugging her, crying,
1387
00:52:00,633 --> 00:52:01,833
that's Stacey Sheridan.
1388
00:52:02,133 --> 00:52:02,966
She's the chief fundraiser.
1389
00:52:03,033 --> 00:52:04,699
Stacey Sheridan is the
one recording her
1390
00:52:04,766 --> 00:52:05,666
while she's in the casket.
1391
00:52:06,866 --> 00:52:08,166
No one can make that
make sense.
1392
00:52:08,233 --> 00:52:10,500
You cannot tell me a
thousand times
1393
00:52:10,566 --> 00:52:12,133
that you would not have
a family member,
1394
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:16,033
a cousin, a brother, a somebody
other than just,
1395
00:52:16,099 --> 00:52:17,133
oh, Turning Point people.
1396
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:22,333
And mind you, the vice president
is offering to fly over
1397
00:52:22,533 --> 00:52:23,433
whoever you want.
1398
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:25,933
So this isn't like, oh, we
couldn't get to Utah.
1399
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:29,233
Like your family will crawl
over glass to get to you.
1400
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:30,300
You go through something
like that.
1401
00:52:30,933 --> 00:52:34,633
And she didn't have anybody,
not her aunts, not nobody.
1402
00:52:34,866 --> 00:52:37,333
Just Stacey Sheridan
recording
1403
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,699
all of those private moments.
1404
00:52:38,766 --> 00:52:40,333
And again, those were
the things,
1405
00:52:40,833 --> 00:52:43,300
I mean, I think I just assumed
that her family was there.
1406
00:52:43,366 --> 00:52:45,133
I assumed, because Charlie's
family was there.
1407
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:47,000
His sister was there, his
mother was there,
1408
00:52:47,066 --> 00:52:47,633
his brother was there.
1409
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:50,633
I mean, his mother and father
were there.
1410
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,666
She just had mama Stacey,
as I call it,
1411
00:52:53,733 --> 00:52:56,533
which is the woman who's all
about raising money.
1412
00:52:56,666 --> 00:52:58,866
And when did you guys
get so close?
1413
00:52:59,699 --> 00:53:01,800
You don't need anybody else for
emotional support here.
1414
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:03,566
And so you're correct.
1415
00:53:03,633 --> 00:53:06,666
That was intentionally
recorded for us
1416
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,333
to raise money at the
end of the day.
1417
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,133
But the lie that she told
that I couldn't get over
1418
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:19,466
was when she lied about
the 30-yacht-6.
1419
00:53:20,266 --> 00:53:22,500
And she-- What did she
lie about that?
1420
00:53:22,566 --> 00:53:23,233
What did she say?
1421
00:53:23,633 --> 00:53:26,166
So what we thought happens,
1422
00:53:26,233 --> 00:53:30,266
and this is, I think I single-handedly
ruined the plan,
1423
00:53:30,333 --> 00:53:33,533
so to speak, but what
happened was,
1424
00:53:34,133 --> 00:53:36,633
my eyes when I was watching
the event,
1425
00:53:36,866 --> 00:53:38,800
as someone who had gone on
tour with Charlie
1426
00:53:39,699 --> 00:53:42,666
every single year, since
2018, 2017.
1427
00:53:42,833 --> 00:53:46,000
So, 17, 18, 19, 2020,
up until 2024,
1428
00:53:46,666 --> 00:53:47,900
which is the first time
they started doing
1429
00:53:47,966 --> 00:53:49,599
this double mic thing
on him, right?
1430
00:53:50,166 --> 00:53:53,933
The fall of 2024, as I'm going,
why is Terrell there?
1431
00:53:54,666 --> 00:53:55,966
It's the first thing
I drew my eye,
1432
00:53:56,033 --> 00:53:58,333
it was like, why is the head
of audio visual here?
1433
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,133
He doesn't come on campus
events.
1434
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:00,666
This is new.
1435
00:54:01,833 --> 00:54:03,900
And then I see that he's
taking the camera down,
1436
00:54:03,966 --> 00:54:04,733
and I'm like, that's weird,
1437
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,066
and the internet's going
crazy about this.
1438
00:54:06,133 --> 00:54:07,466
I'm like, well, Terrell's
been there for 12 years,
1439
00:54:08,033 --> 00:54:08,566
long, maybe longer.
1440
00:54:09,066 --> 00:54:11,266
I know, I'm just gonna call him
and ask him, what's up?
1441
00:54:11,333 --> 00:54:12,333
Like, maybe there's a reason,
1442
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,233
and I assumed he was gonna
say something like,
1443
00:54:14,766 --> 00:54:17,566
you know, the police
asked me to,
1444
00:54:17,633 --> 00:54:18,966
I don't know, you don't wanna
see the footage.
1445
00:54:19,666 --> 00:54:21,533
Instead, he was the first person
that made me realize
1446
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:22,400
something was very wrong,
1447
00:54:22,466 --> 00:54:24,000
because he was very nervous
on the phone.
1448
00:54:24,066 --> 00:54:25,366
I asked him if I could see
the back footage,
1449
00:54:25,433 --> 00:54:27,699
just to like, clarify
with people,
1450
00:54:27,766 --> 00:54:29,900
like, looking out for
you, Terrell,
1451
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,766
I can tell them what's
going on,
1452
00:54:31,833 --> 00:54:33,599
and his energy was just
completely wrong.
1453
00:54:33,666 --> 00:54:34,933
He came up with a million
excuses
1454
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,400
why I couldn't see the
back footage.
1455
00:54:36,699 --> 00:54:38,366
He told me he didn't know
how to send a file.
1456
00:54:38,433 --> 00:54:40,500
I'm like, Terrell, you run an
audio visual company,
1457
00:54:40,566 --> 00:54:41,433
you know how to send a file.
1458
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,500
Then he told me, oh yeah, I do
know how to send a file,
1459
00:54:43,766 --> 00:54:46,099
but I really didn't,
1460
00:54:46,433 --> 00:54:49,066
I'm afraid Google's gonna
hack me if I send it.
1461
00:54:49,166 --> 00:54:51,500
And I said, Google's
gonna hack you
1462
00:54:51,566 --> 00:54:53,199
if you send me the file of
the back footage.
1463
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,733
And I didn't accept that,
obviously.
1464
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,433
And then he said, well, I grabbed
the camera for Erica,
1465
00:55:00,833 --> 00:55:02,933
so that she wouldn't have to
relive her husband
1466
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,166
dying over and over again.
1467
00:55:04,633 --> 00:55:06,766
And I said, his death was
live streamed.
1468
00:55:07,233 --> 00:55:08,333
Everyone saw Charlie die.
1469
00:55:09,133 --> 00:55:10,966
The back footage is not,
1470
00:55:11,033 --> 00:55:11,366
it wouldn't be anything,
1471
00:55:11,433 --> 00:55:13,333
so I knew something was wrong
with the back footage.
1472
00:55:13,766 --> 00:55:16,566
And I kept pressing him
for two days,
1473
00:55:16,633 --> 00:55:20,400
and finally he said, well,
I'll FaceTime you
1474
00:55:20,466 --> 00:55:20,933
and show you it.
1475
00:55:21,666 --> 00:55:23,500
And I hit record on the face.
1476
00:55:23,566 --> 00:55:25,266
I just didn't know, just
my instincts.
1477
00:55:25,733 --> 00:55:26,833
And someone on my team
was like,
1478
00:55:26,933 --> 00:55:27,966
you should record this.
1479
00:55:28,033 --> 00:55:28,766
And I recorded it.
1480
00:55:29,633 --> 00:55:32,066
And the first thing I thought
that was so strange
1481
00:55:32,133 --> 00:55:33,033
was there was no blood.
1482
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:35,933
The bullet didn't go through,
there was no blood.
1483
00:55:36,166 --> 00:55:38,066
Charlie's shirt was
crisp, white,
1484
00:55:38,233 --> 00:55:39,366
from the moment he went down.
1485
00:55:40,133 --> 00:55:42,599
And I went, that's odd.
1486
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,599
So I, at that moment,
recorded
1487
00:55:47,666 --> 00:55:48,833
it, had it, hung up with him,
1488
00:55:49,866 --> 00:55:51,500
told my audience what I saw.
1489
00:55:52,099 --> 00:55:54,366
And there was apparently
mass panic,
1490
00:55:54,566 --> 00:55:56,699
which I now know how the
full story went.
1491
00:55:57,099 --> 00:55:59,400
This was the day of Charlie's
actual funeral,
1492
00:55:59,699 --> 00:56:03,133
not the WWE Memorial events,
but the actual funeral,
1493
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:04,166
which was the night before.
1494
00:56:04,933 --> 00:56:07,833
And they panicked that I had
seen the footage.
1495
00:56:08,099 --> 00:56:12,266
And somebody at the FBI
called Turning Point
1496
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,966
and asked explicitly to
Justin Strife
1497
00:56:16,433 --> 00:56:17,833
whether or not I had
recorded it.
1498
00:56:18,933 --> 00:56:22,233
At that point, Justin Strife,
who is the COO
1499
00:56:22,566 --> 00:56:24,699
of Turning Point USA,
messaged my husband,
1500
00:56:24,766 --> 00:56:26,900
called my husband, and
wanted to know
1501
00:56:26,966 --> 00:56:28,133
whether or not I had
recorded it.
1502
00:56:28,633 --> 00:56:30,533
And my husband has no idea
what he's talking about.
1503
00:56:30,766 --> 00:56:32,766
He's like, he runs
the business,
1504
00:56:32,833 --> 00:56:33,533
he's like, I don't know what
you're talking about.
1505
00:56:33,966 --> 00:56:35,099
He then comes out to me
and he's like,
1506
00:56:35,933 --> 00:56:37,733
Justin Strife keeps asking if
he recorded this footage,
1507
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:38,566
what was he talking about?
1508
00:56:39,266 --> 00:56:40,333
And instantly in my
mind I said,
1509
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,366
that's a really weird question,
why does it matter?
1510
00:56:43,099 --> 00:56:44,466
Why does it matter if I
recorded the footage?
1511
00:56:46,433 --> 00:56:49,500
And I said, don't answer him,
I'll deal with it.
1512
00:56:50,833 --> 00:56:53,833
And then what happened, this
is all happening
1513
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:55,433
on the day of Charlie's
actual funeral.
1514
00:56:55,533 --> 00:56:57,966
No one should be caring about
back footage, anything.
1515
00:56:58,033 --> 00:56:59,366
Why is the FBI calling?
1516
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,099
What then happened was
Erica peeled off
1517
00:57:02,166 --> 00:57:04,300
from Charlie's actual
funeral, his wife,
1518
00:57:04,833 --> 00:57:09,466
and she called the surgeon with
Andrew Colvet on the phone,
1519
00:57:09,533 --> 00:57:10,266
a three-way call.
1520
00:57:11,433 --> 00:57:14,500
And the story that Andrew
would then write,
1521
00:57:14,566 --> 00:57:17,266
because then he tweeted on the
day of Charlie's funeral
1522
00:57:17,733 --> 00:57:20,966
and said, people want to know
why there was no blood.
1523
00:57:21,033 --> 00:57:24,133
And then the surgeon says
that it was a miracle.
1524
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:27,099
And you remember this
ridiculous tweet,
1525
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:30,933
Charlie ate really healthy
and normally
1526
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,233
it would have taken
down a moose,
1527
00:57:32,666 --> 00:57:35,666
but he really was the
man of steel.
1528
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:38,133
And this is like a modern day
Christian miracle.
1529
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:41,266
I mean, total slop for
the masses.
1530
00:57:41,766 --> 00:57:44,000
And everyone then went,
what the F?
1531
00:57:44,066 --> 00:57:45,800
It didn't go through, like
you're confirming
1532
00:57:45,866 --> 00:57:48,466
this didn't go through, something's
wrong here, right?
1533
00:57:49,833 --> 00:57:51,699
When I asked Erica about this
and I didn't know
1534
00:57:51,766 --> 00:57:53,433
about this thing that happened
at the funeral,
1535
00:57:54,833 --> 00:57:57,133
I asked her, why did Andrew
send this tweet?
1536
00:57:58,066 --> 00:57:59,433
And she said to me,
he went rogue.
1537
00:58:00,266 --> 00:58:01,133
I didn't know he sent
the tweet.
1538
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:02,633
(laughs)
1539
00:58:02,699 --> 00:58:07,866
I said, Andrew went rogue and she
said, called the surgeon.
1540
00:58:07,933 --> 00:58:09,500
I said, the surgeon spoke to
1541
00:58:09,566 --> 00:58:10,866
Andrew without your
permission.
1542
00:58:10,933 --> 00:58:12,400
And she said, yeah.
1543
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:18,033
I said, so the surgeon to the highest
profile assassination
1544
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:22,133
since JFK violated HIPAA,
went rogue,
1545
00:58:22,466 --> 00:58:24,699
spoke to some random PR guy
he doesn't know
1546
00:58:24,766 --> 00:58:25,800
who also went rogue.
1547
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:28,266
And then at the conclusion
of his conversation,
1548
00:58:28,633 --> 00:58:30,900
Andrew tweeted something
without your permission
1549
00:58:30,966 --> 00:58:31,633
and went rogue again.
1550
00:58:31,966 --> 00:58:32,633
And she said, yeah.
1551
00:58:34,033 --> 00:58:35,900
And then I got the information
that she completely lied.
1552
00:58:36,666 --> 00:58:37,566
How'd you figure that out?
1553
00:58:37,933 --> 00:58:38,566
A source.
1554
00:58:40,099 --> 00:58:41,733
That she was the one who initiated
the phone call
1555
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:45,099
and Andrew was on it and that
the surgeon never said that,
1556
00:58:45,166 --> 00:58:46,433
what was put on online.
1557
00:58:46,866 --> 00:58:48,699
In fact, that's largely embarrassing
to a surgeon
1558
00:58:48,766 --> 00:58:50,866
because you're saying he
violated HIPAA, right?
1559
00:58:51,099 --> 00:58:53,333
And he's an idiot, like
he's an idiot.
1560
00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:55,300
Like it's a modern
day miracle.
1561
00:58:55,666 --> 00:58:57,466
Not only that, but it's not
the surgeon's job.
1562
00:58:57,533 --> 00:59:01,666
So what happened was she said
to the surgeon allegedly,
1563
00:59:02,233 --> 00:59:05,666
how can we explain to people
that the 30-odd six
1564
00:59:05,733 --> 00:59:06,533
didn't go through.
1565
00:59:07,133 --> 00:59:08,866
And the surgeon doesn't
know anything
1566
00:59:08,933 --> 00:59:09,900
about whether the surgeon
had six.
1567
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,533
He is a hunter, he hunts.
1568
00:59:11,933 --> 00:59:12,699
And he said, I don't know.
1569
00:59:12,766 --> 00:59:14,533
Like, you know, maybe it was
a frangible bullet
1570
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:16,233
or something, I have no idea.
1571
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,400
And he's going off of them saying
it was a 30-odd six.
1572
00:59:19,466 --> 00:59:22,266
And at that point, Erica
offered an explanation
1573
00:59:22,333 --> 00:59:25,666
and she said, well, my baby,
he ate so healthy
1574
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:29,566
and I'm sure it's like he had
a man of steel neck
1575
00:59:29,633 --> 00:59:30,533
because he ate so healthy.
1576
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,166
So wasn't there a picture
of Robinson
1577
00:59:33,233 --> 00:59:36,800
standing at a Dairy Queen right
in front of a poster
1578
00:59:36,866 --> 00:59:37,900
that said man of steel?
1579
00:59:38,333 --> 00:59:39,966
Which actually was
in theaters.
1580
00:59:40,033 --> 00:59:41,233
And so that was like weird,
1581
00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:44,866
but Erica is that that quotation
and that explanation
1582
00:59:44,933 --> 00:59:47,566
came from Erica as she was
trying to pull an excuse
1583
00:59:47,633 --> 00:59:50,433
out of the surgeon, which
somehow got elevated
1584
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:51,966
to the number one priority
on the day
1585
00:59:52,033 --> 00:59:53,333
of her husband's actual
funeral.
1586
00:59:54,633 --> 00:59:57,066
They were stressed out that
the public had learned
1587
00:59:57,133 --> 00:59:58,066
that the bullet didn't
go through.
1588
00:59:58,133 --> 00:59:59,333
Why would you be stressed
out about that?
1589
01:00:01,433 --> 01:00:04,500
I wouldn't be mourning
my wife
1590
01:00:04,966 --> 01:00:07,933
or my significant other.
1591
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,166
You know, I wouldn't be.
1592
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:11,800
Trying to work out.
1593
01:00:11,866 --> 01:00:16,933
So what do you think
is going on?
1594
01:00:17,666 --> 01:00:19,300
I mean, who is Tyler
Robinson?
1595
01:00:19,366 --> 01:00:20,699
What the fuck was he
doing there?
1596
01:00:21,533 --> 01:00:23,133
Who do you think is
behind this?
1597
01:00:23,933 --> 01:00:25,433
Do you think Tyler Robinson
was there?
1598
01:00:25,866 --> 01:00:26,933
You don't think he was there?
1599
01:00:28,233 --> 01:00:29,300
I think he's a total patsy.
1600
01:00:29,366 --> 01:00:30,966
I think they get lookalikes
1601
01:00:31,033 --> 01:00:32,400
and they got everybody wearing
the same outfit.
1602
01:00:32,466 --> 01:00:33,833
I think he played a role.
1603
01:00:34,166 --> 01:00:37,400
And I believe that what he did
was he picked up clothes
1604
01:00:37,466 --> 01:00:40,400
and he dumped them behind
the Dairy Queen.
1605
01:00:41,633 --> 01:00:42,900
I think he had a role,
1606
01:00:43,699 --> 01:00:46,066
but I do not believe that
Tyler Robinson
1607
01:00:46,133 --> 01:00:48,233
is the person who was walking
in that staircase.
1608
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:51,300
I do not believe the person
walking in the staircase
1609
01:00:51,366 --> 01:00:52,866
was even the person that
we saw running
1610
01:00:52,933 --> 01:00:53,599
off of the roof.
1611
01:00:53,666 --> 01:00:55,566
I don't even know what
day that person
1612
01:00:55,633 --> 01:00:56,300
was running off the roof
1613
01:00:56,366 --> 01:01:00,833
because there's only
one eyewitness
1614
01:01:01,433 --> 01:01:03,866
to him having been
on the roof
1615
01:01:03,933 --> 01:01:06,133
and the person who says that
he saw him crouching low,
1616
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:10,033
the person that shared the video
of the guy on the roof
1617
01:01:10,099 --> 01:01:11,266
and was like, "Look up here.
1618
01:01:12,066 --> 01:01:13,199
"Somebody just got up there.
1619
01:01:13,266 --> 01:01:14,466
"I spoke to that individual."
1620
01:01:15,699 --> 01:01:18,400
And he never saw a
shot fired.
1621
01:01:19,133 --> 01:01:20,500
Never saw that he saw
a shot fired.
1622
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:25,500
Knows about weapons and finds
it really unusual
1623
01:01:25,566 --> 01:01:28,699
that the prosecution hasn't
reached out to him.
1624
01:01:30,433 --> 01:01:34,400
So I don't know what
happened.
1625
01:01:34,699 --> 01:01:36,233
I just know what didn't
happen.
1626
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:40,233
And I feel confident stating
that Tyler Robinson
1627
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:42,633
did not kill murder
Charlie Kirk,
1628
01:01:42,699 --> 01:01:44,599
whether or not he was an
accessory to the crime.
1629
01:01:46,133 --> 01:01:48,733
Do I believe he was that Dairy
Queen dropping off clothes?
1630
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:49,033
Yeah.
1631
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:50,766
How did he get mixed
up in that?
1632
01:01:50,833 --> 01:01:51,166
I don't know.
1633
01:01:51,233 --> 01:01:53,066
Maybe he was blackmailed.
1634
01:01:53,866 --> 01:01:57,400
Maybe he got involved in some
weird stuff online.
1635
01:01:57,466 --> 01:01:59,400
That's the easiest way for the
feds to blackmail someone.
1636
01:01:59,466 --> 01:02:02,699
I think his roommate is a federal
asset, Lance Twiggs.
1637
01:02:03,866 --> 01:02:05,033
The person-- Why do you
think that?
1638
01:02:05,099 --> 01:02:06,800
Because the police didn't
even question him,
1639
01:02:08,033 --> 01:02:09,133
which is bonkers.
1640
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:10,766
Yeah, Lance Twiggs.
1641
01:02:10,833 --> 01:02:13,900
I spoke to Lance Twiggs,
his family,
1642
01:02:15,266 --> 01:02:16,933
and they think he's involved.
1643
01:02:17,666 --> 01:02:19,000
And they don't understand
why the police
1644
01:02:19,433 --> 01:02:22,099
just sat him down for a few
hours and let him go.
1645
01:02:22,533 --> 01:02:26,366
And they said he's involved
in a lot of bad stuff.
1646
01:02:27,666 --> 01:02:29,633
He lived with them for
a little bit,
1647
01:02:30,133 --> 01:02:34,766
that he's into weird categories
of pornography as well.
1648
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,000
And so they were shocked
1649
01:02:37,766 --> 01:02:40,400
that the police just had
never had any interest
1650
01:02:40,466 --> 01:02:41,366
in Lance Twiggs.
1651
01:02:42,166 --> 01:02:43,500
And he is crucial
to the story
1652
01:02:43,566 --> 01:02:44,933
that they're trying to tell
as the roommate.
1653
01:02:46,166 --> 01:02:48,566
If you're dating, if they're
in a gay relationship
1654
01:02:48,633 --> 01:02:50,766
and you're dating him, you would
have access to his guns.
1655
01:02:50,833 --> 01:02:52,066
You would have access to,
1656
01:02:52,533 --> 01:02:54,800
you could easily set up somebody
that you're dating.
1657
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,000
And that's what my
gut tells me
1658
01:02:59,066 --> 01:03:02,599
is Lance Twiggs was a federal
asset, is a federal asset.
1659
01:03:04,133 --> 01:03:04,766
Shit.
1660
01:03:05,166 --> 01:03:07,466
Who was the guy, wasn't there
a guy that said he did it?
1661
01:03:08,733 --> 01:03:10,599
That was also at 9-11
or something?
1662
01:03:11,033 --> 01:03:13,433
Oh, I call him decoy boy number
one, George Zinn.
1663
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:14,400
What the fuck is that?
1664
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:17,466
So George Zinn instantly gets
up, says he did it.
1665
01:03:17,533 --> 01:03:20,400
His pants fall and people
are recording him
1666
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,266
and it creates, I guess, just
a bit of a distraction.
1667
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:27,400
What I have on authority
from the hospital
1668
01:03:27,466 --> 01:03:28,333
that he went to after,
1669
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,566
he went to the hospital
to get treated
1670
01:03:30,633 --> 01:03:32,099
for some mild injuries,
1671
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,966
is that he told the nurses that
he was paid to do it,
1672
01:03:36,033 --> 01:03:37,433
but he didn't know where the
money was coming from.
1673
01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:43,266
And this guy was also in New
York when 9-11 happened?
1674
01:03:43,566 --> 01:03:45,033
I don't know if he was
in New York,
1675
01:03:45,099 --> 01:03:48,433
but he has some story
about 9-11.
1676
01:03:48,566 --> 01:03:49,500
Some weird connection.
1677
01:03:49,566 --> 01:03:50,933
Some very weird connection,
yeah.
1678
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,133
I don't know exactly what it
is, I can't remember a bit.
1679
01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:54,666
No, you're correct.
1680
01:03:55,766 --> 01:03:57,433
But that's what he told the
nurses that day,
1681
01:03:57,699 --> 01:03:59,000
that he was paid to do that.
1682
01:03:59,366 --> 01:04:02,366
But he didn't know who exactly
was paying him
1683
01:04:02,433 --> 01:04:03,566
just that he was gonna
be paid for that.
1684
01:04:03,833 --> 01:04:04,800
Do you think he was killed
1685
01:04:04,866 --> 01:04:07,566
because he was going against
Israel towards that time?
1686
01:04:08,066 --> 01:04:08,599
1,000%.
1687
01:04:10,366 --> 01:04:10,966
Why him? 1,000%.
1688
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:11,733
Lots.
1689
01:04:12,099 --> 01:04:16,133
You go against Israel,
why not you?
1690
01:04:17,099 --> 01:04:17,933
Why are you still here?
1691
01:04:18,466 --> 01:04:21,833
I think if Andrew Colvet
is to be believed,
1692
01:04:22,066 --> 01:04:23,633
he told me it was supposed
to be me,
1693
01:04:23,699 --> 01:04:25,133
which was an interesting
thing to say.
1694
01:04:25,833 --> 01:04:27,466
Andrew Colvet said
to me a few
1695
01:04:27,533 --> 01:04:29,500
days after the assassination,
1696
01:04:30,566 --> 01:04:33,699
and at the moment I just took it
as poorly expressed grief,
1697
01:04:35,099 --> 01:04:37,733
because I didn't find Andrew
to be suspicious
1698
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,733
because I just didn't, my
mind wasn't there,
1699
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,233
but he said to me on
the phone,
1700
01:04:42,833 --> 01:04:44,599
it was supposed to be
you, verbatim.
1701
01:04:45,866 --> 01:04:47,166
Are you serious?
1702
01:04:47,433 --> 01:04:51,433
But I thought that was just,
he was crying,
1703
01:04:51,500 --> 01:04:52,766
I was crying, I thought he
just said something.
1704
01:04:52,833 --> 01:04:54,699
He legitimately said it was
supposed to be you.
1705
01:04:54,766 --> 01:04:55,533
It was supposed to be you.
1706
01:04:56,266 --> 01:04:57,566
So I have questions about
that now.
1707
01:04:59,266 --> 01:05:01,866
Given everything that happened
in the lead up to that,
1708
01:05:01,933 --> 01:05:06,133
I think Charlie, I think
Charlie knew something.
1709
01:05:06,966 --> 01:05:09,466
I think the biggest question
1710
01:05:09,833 --> 01:05:11,666
that has not been answered
in all of this
1711
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:14,199
is what happened at
the Hamptons,
1712
01:05:15,266 --> 01:05:16,800
when Bibi Netanyahu called.
1713
01:05:18,266 --> 01:05:19,233
I don't know about this.
1714
01:05:19,766 --> 01:05:24,433
So it was a couple of weeks
before Charlie died,
1715
01:05:24,633 --> 01:05:26,900
well, August 5th and 6th,
1716
01:05:26,966 --> 01:05:30,166
he did a summit at Bill
Ackman's house,
1717
01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:34,400
or Bill Ackman was kind
of hosting
1718
01:05:34,599 --> 01:05:36,233
pro-Israel people.
1719
01:05:36,966 --> 01:05:39,966
And Charlie was pressed on
his changing views.
1720
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:42,266
And he was pressed by
Seth Dillon.
1721
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:45,833
Voices were raised.
1722
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,000
And he wanted to know
why he's not,
1723
01:05:51,633 --> 01:05:52,933
why you can't criticize
Bibi Netanyahu
1724
01:05:53,433 --> 01:05:55,000
and that'd be called
anti-Semitic.
1725
01:05:55,699 --> 01:05:58,266
There was a smaller dinner
that took place
1726
01:05:58,633 --> 01:06:02,333
and Bill Ackman, Erica
was present.
1727
01:06:02,933 --> 01:06:06,633
And Bibi Netanyahu called.
1728
01:06:08,966 --> 01:06:13,833
Now, what I was told directly
from Andrew Colbett,
1729
01:06:14,133 --> 01:06:15,199
which Erica didn't know
that my source
1730
01:06:15,266 --> 01:06:16,166
was Andrew Colbett on this,
1731
01:06:16,233 --> 01:06:18,533
she was surprised in person
when I told her this,
1732
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,300
was that Bibi offered to take
Turning Point USA
1733
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,133
to the next level.
1734
01:06:26,133 --> 01:06:26,933
And Charlie said no.
1735
01:06:31,266 --> 01:06:32,166
In exchange for what?
1736
01:06:34,333 --> 01:06:35,666
Also, how does an
organization
1737
01:06:35,733 --> 01:06:37,666
that's pulling in 150
million a year,
1738
01:06:37,966 --> 01:06:38,966
what is the next level?
1739
01:06:39,266 --> 01:06:41,199
It's a lot of money, 100
million a year.
1740
01:06:41,933 --> 01:06:42,533
In exchange for what?
1741
01:06:42,599 --> 01:06:44,400
Do you think he, in exchange
for him,
1742
01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:48,066
pledging to preach free markets
and capitalism?
1743
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,866
So at the moment that you
refuse an offer
1744
01:06:53,233 --> 01:06:56,966
from an that deranged, that
psychopathic,
1745
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,000
that bloodthirsty, you--
1746
01:07:00,066 --> 01:07:00,699
That much power.
1747
01:07:01,466 --> 01:07:02,333
You know something.
1748
01:07:03,433 --> 01:07:07,366
He obviously has an enormous
amount of influence
1749
01:07:07,433 --> 01:07:08,666
over the current
administration.
1750
01:07:08,766 --> 01:07:09,266
Correct.
1751
01:07:09,533 --> 01:07:12,199
I mean, enormous amount
of influence.
1752
01:07:12,533 --> 01:07:15,500
It's pretty fucking obvious, I
think everybody's seeing it.
1753
01:07:16,766 --> 01:07:17,599
In exchange for what?
1754
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:19,933
I'll take your company to
the next level.
1755
01:07:20,933 --> 01:07:22,266
Cool, in exchange for what?
1756
01:07:24,566 --> 01:07:26,800
I think it's a trillion
dollar question.
1757
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:33,833
And Erica, when I asked
her about that,
1758
01:07:34,133 --> 01:07:37,033
and she admitted the Bibi
Netanyahu call happened,
1759
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,599
that she was there
and she said,
1760
01:07:38,666 --> 01:07:41,633
"Oh, he was just calling because
Charlie had written him
1761
01:07:41,699 --> 01:07:42,566
a letter in May."
1762
01:07:43,433 --> 01:07:45,433
And it's just so stupid.
1763
01:07:45,666 --> 01:07:46,133
So stupid.
1764
01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:47,666
Oh, he's not busy, he just
was calling to say,
1765
01:07:47,733 --> 01:07:49,766
"Hey, toodles, like, just
wanted to know
1766
01:07:49,833 --> 01:07:52,133
how you're doing, I saw your
letter, thanks for it."
1767
01:07:52,699 --> 01:07:54,233
And he was just, I said,
"That's it."
1768
01:07:55,133 --> 01:07:57,866
Okay, so I'm supposed to believe
Andrew lied about that.
1769
01:07:59,466 --> 01:08:01,033
That he offered to take it
to the next level,
1770
01:08:01,099 --> 01:08:03,233
and she was coming to say,
"No, that didn't happen."
1771
01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:05,199
He just wanted to just check
in with Charlie.
1772
01:08:05,733 --> 01:08:07,000
That's not true, she's lying.
1773
01:08:07,099 --> 01:08:09,433
And I know she's lying
because then somebody
1774
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,633
in Andrew Colbat's family
orbit reached out to me
1775
01:08:13,699 --> 01:08:16,466
and said that that definitively
happened
1776
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,833
because Andrew said that when
Charlie said no,
1777
01:08:19,133 --> 01:08:20,533
he lost millions.
1778
01:08:21,566 --> 01:08:23,866
Andrew Colbat lost millions
when Charlie said no.
1779
01:08:25,166 --> 01:08:27,266
Now you wonder, how does a
PR guy lose millions?
1780
01:08:27,333 --> 01:08:28,800
He's a spokesperson for
Turning Point USA,
1781
01:08:28,866 --> 01:08:32,199
and then I had to remind myself
that he owns a piece
1782
01:08:32,266 --> 01:08:35,000
of the Charlie Kirk
show, right?
1783
01:08:35,066 --> 01:08:37,199
So I don't know if it
was going to be
1784
01:08:39,433 --> 01:08:42,133
via the Charlie Kirk show,
which was at that moment
1785
01:08:42,199 --> 01:08:42,933
with Salem.
1786
01:08:43,033 --> 01:08:47,266
Salem has recently filed, you
know, under FARA,
1787
01:08:47,633 --> 01:08:51,233
they're working with that
Faith by Works
1788
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:54,500
and the whole thing in Salem
is a part of that filing.
1789
01:08:54,566 --> 01:08:56,600
So they are effectively
foreign agents.
1790
01:08:57,533 --> 01:08:59,933
I don't know how that money
was going to come in.
1791
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,100
That's another question, that
1792
01:09:01,166 --> 01:09:02,366
if we had any real
journalists,
1793
01:09:02,433 --> 01:09:03,433
they would be exploring that.
1794
01:09:03,933 --> 01:09:08,100
But yeah, Bibi Netanyahu
calling,
1795
01:09:08,933 --> 01:09:10,433
and Charlie not just
refusing it,
1796
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:16,100
but he had anger towards
Bibi, he did.
1797
01:09:16,666 --> 01:09:17,399
And how do you know?
1798
01:09:17,466 --> 01:09:21,566
Because Bibi Netanyahu that
month did a ton of shows,
1799
01:09:22,033 --> 01:09:23,233
very strange by the way,
1800
01:09:24,699 --> 01:09:26,633
that a prime minister
of Israel
1801
01:09:26,699 --> 01:09:31,166
suddenly hitting the
orbit doing PR.
1802
01:09:31,633 --> 01:09:32,566
He did a ton of shows.
1803
01:09:32,633 --> 01:09:36,266
I mean, Patrick Bet David's show,
Brandon Tatum's show,
1804
01:09:37,433 --> 01:09:40,166
and he hadn't before that done
any sort of podcasting
1805
01:09:40,233 --> 01:09:42,133
since he was like hawking
his book, you know,
1806
01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:42,899
like years ago.
1807
01:09:44,533 --> 01:09:45,500
He didn't do Charlie
Kirk's show
1808
01:09:45,566 --> 01:09:46,666
because Charlie didn't want
to have him on.
1809
01:09:48,466 --> 01:09:51,333
Again, something told to me as
a fact by Andrew Colbat.
1810
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:53,399
Charlie refused to have Bibi
Netanyahu on a show.
1811
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,100
So if you want to know how
Charlie was feeling
1812
01:09:55,166 --> 01:09:58,366
about Israel and Bibi Netanyahu,
there's your answer.
1813
01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:03,933
How people couldn't see the
Israel threat in this
1814
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:05,433
doesn't make any sense to me.
1815
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,699
I can't believe he said it
was supposed to be you.
1816
01:10:08,866 --> 01:10:09,199
He did.
1817
01:10:10,866 --> 01:10:11,666
Does that scare you?
1818
01:10:13,399 --> 01:10:13,933
I mean.
1819
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:16,133
You seem fearless.
1820
01:10:18,166 --> 01:10:19,633
We're all here for a blip.
1821
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,000
And I think it's not about
not having any fears.
1822
01:10:23,066 --> 01:10:25,466
It's about what scares
me more, right?
1823
01:10:25,633 --> 01:10:28,500
What scares me more is
1824
01:10:30,233 --> 01:10:35,100
considering the world that
our children will inherit
1825
01:10:35,166 --> 01:10:35,966
if we stay quiet.
1826
01:10:36,699 --> 01:10:37,699
Because we feel it right now.
1827
01:10:37,766 --> 01:10:38,733
We feel the squeeze.
1828
01:10:39,166 --> 01:10:40,100
We feel the evil.
1829
01:10:40,166 --> 01:10:41,466
We feel the cloud,
it's there.
1830
01:10:41,833 --> 01:10:44,066
And you have a bunch
of people who,
1831
01:10:44,166 --> 01:10:45,866
whether it's for money
or for fear,
1832
01:10:46,133 --> 01:10:47,333
are allowing it to happen.
1833
01:10:48,166 --> 01:10:51,399
And there are so many
historical lessons
1834
01:10:52,033 --> 01:10:55,133
about what can happen
to a country
1835
01:10:55,533 --> 01:10:56,899
when good men do nothing.
1836
01:10:58,033 --> 01:11:00,833
And so what scares me is
thinking about
1837
01:11:01,666 --> 01:11:02,899
what's going to be like
in America
1838
01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:05,033
when my children are my age.
1839
01:11:05,766 --> 01:11:09,233
Because I was too scared
to say something
1840
01:11:09,500 --> 01:11:12,699
when Charlie Kirk was publicly
assassinated
1841
01:11:13,133 --> 01:11:15,199
and the most powerful people
in the country
1842
01:11:15,266 --> 01:11:16,300
colluded to lie about it.
1843
01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:19,966
If Charlie Kirk was not safe
1844
01:11:20,033 --> 01:11:21,100
in the United States
of America,
1845
01:11:21,833 --> 01:11:22,399
nobody is.
1846
01:11:23,699 --> 01:11:24,133
Nobody is.
1847
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,533
Do you feel this is your
responsibility?
1848
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,399
To figure out what happened
1849
01:11:30,466 --> 01:11:32,899
and to keep the investigation
going?
1850
01:11:32,966 --> 01:11:38,500
(sighs)
1851
01:11:40,666 --> 01:11:42,466
I don't know if it's like my,
1852
01:11:43,066 --> 01:11:45,033
I don't know if responsibility
would be the word
1853
01:11:45,566 --> 01:11:46,399
that I would use.
1854
01:11:46,466 --> 01:11:47,233
I just,
1855
01:11:49,766 --> 01:11:51,833
I just know that it's a part
of my journey.
1856
01:11:53,633 --> 01:11:56,600
I know that it's not
a coincidence
1857
01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:00,066
that Charlie kept telling me
he was gonna die young.
1858
01:12:00,666 --> 01:12:06,533
That he had really, really deep
visions about his death
1859
01:12:07,266 --> 01:12:10,533
in 2018, very specific visions
about the fact
1860
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:11,466
that he was gonna die young
1861
01:12:11,966 --> 01:12:15,433
and that he knew that I would
be the one to fight.
1862
01:12:17,233 --> 01:12:18,833
There are things that we
don't understand.
1863
01:12:18,899 --> 01:12:20,433
We're not meant to understand
them, right?
1864
01:12:21,566 --> 01:12:23,800
But there is something
that is moving me
1865
01:12:23,866 --> 01:12:24,766
that feels bigger than me.
1866
01:12:25,566 --> 01:12:26,300
I know it matters.
1867
01:12:26,366 --> 01:12:29,066
And when I read back those
conversations,
1868
01:12:30,433 --> 01:12:32,000
and think about how
I was like,
1869
01:12:32,066 --> 01:12:32,933
"You need to get some sleep.
1870
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:33,933
"You're probably just tired."
1871
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,466
"No, you're not that
high young."
1872
01:12:35,899 --> 01:12:38,300
You know, my death is gonna be
tied to Turning Point USA.
1873
01:12:38,366 --> 01:12:41,000
From the moment I signed on
the dotted line, he said,
1874
01:12:41,766 --> 01:12:44,466
he said he has the dream, he
had the dreams repeatedly.
1875
01:12:44,899 --> 01:12:45,766
What were their dreams?
1876
01:12:46,166 --> 01:12:47,066
That he was gonna die young,
1877
01:12:47,133 --> 01:12:51,866
that he was gonna die in
a very tragic way.
1878
01:12:53,333 --> 01:12:57,366
And that his death would
be tied to
1879
01:12:58,500 --> 01:12:59,766
like saving the world,
1880
01:12:59,833 --> 01:13:00,899
waking up the world about
something.
1881
01:13:05,266 --> 01:13:08,199
And at the time, I just,
I didn't,
1882
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:11,199
I mean, what do you say
with that, right?
1883
01:13:11,933 --> 01:13:13,666
It'd be weird if I was like, "Okay,
sure, give me a plan.
1884
01:13:13,733 --> 01:13:15,000
"What would you like me to do
when you die young?"
1885
01:13:15,066 --> 01:13:16,666
Like, what was I gonna say?
1886
01:13:17,399 --> 01:13:18,633
When I read it back,
it's haunting.
1887
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,433
It haunts me.
1888
01:13:19,733 --> 01:13:21,966
And it haunts me because
now in the way
1889
01:13:22,033 --> 01:13:23,899
that he was dreaming in 2018,
1890
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,800
I have had the most vivid
dream since he's died.
1891
01:13:28,233 --> 01:13:29,300
And I don't discount them.
1892
01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:34,733
I know there is just something
spiritually pulling me
1893
01:13:35,433 --> 01:13:38,500
and guiding me in ways I don't
really understand.
1894
01:13:40,166 --> 01:13:42,500
And so I just give into that.
1895
01:13:42,733 --> 01:13:48,266
It's like he went out and something
awakened in me.
1896
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,566
I mean, when you're talking
about evil prevails
1897
01:13:53,633 --> 01:13:54,899
when good men do nothing,
1898
01:13:56,133 --> 01:13:59,066
do you think that, I think about
this all the time too.
1899
01:13:59,133 --> 01:14:00,366
It's one of my favorite
quotes.
1900
01:14:01,133 --> 01:14:04,266
I feel it's, part of me feels
like it's a responsibility
1901
01:14:04,333 --> 01:14:08,633
to do what I do just like
you do, I think.
1902
01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:13,100
And, but how much impact do you
think you can really make?
1903
01:14:15,833 --> 01:14:19,333
You know, I try not to stop
and measure my impact.
1904
01:14:19,433 --> 01:14:22,633
I know that every day
when I wake up
1905
01:14:22,699 --> 01:14:24,100
and when I decide what
I wanna cover,
1906
01:14:24,466 --> 01:14:27,933
I am doing it out of a unique
passion, a care.
1907
01:14:28,733 --> 01:14:31,199
And something is motivating
me that's real.
1908
01:14:31,266 --> 01:14:32,833
And I think people respond
to that.
1909
01:14:33,300 --> 01:14:34,566
And it's made a difference.
1910
01:14:34,633 --> 01:14:35,833
Charlie is trending
every day.
1911
01:14:36,533 --> 01:14:37,199
He's trending every day.
1912
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,666
And that's not what
they wanted.
1913
01:14:39,166 --> 01:14:41,300
They wanted everyone to stop
talking about him.
1914
01:14:41,766 --> 01:14:44,433
The moment Erica and Trump hugged
on stage at the memorial.
1915
01:14:44,933 --> 01:14:45,899
And she said, I forgive him.
1916
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:47,733
That was supposed to
be the end.
1917
01:14:47,933 --> 01:14:49,266
That was so weird too.
1918
01:14:49,366 --> 01:14:49,966
It was weird.
1919
01:14:50,033 --> 01:14:51,000
Everything was weird.
1920
01:14:52,266 --> 01:14:54,399
Everything has been strange.
1921
01:14:55,399 --> 01:14:56,333
Most of all, his wife.
1922
01:14:57,300 --> 01:15:04,800
And watching this almost
subhuman answer
1923
01:15:05,433 --> 01:15:07,300
that they are trying to
provide, which is,
1924
01:15:07,366 --> 01:15:08,433
well, we have money.
1925
01:15:09,566 --> 01:15:10,433
We have power.
1926
01:15:10,500 --> 01:15:11,866
So just get in line.
1927
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,033
Like that's gonna be the cure
here for all the skepticism
1928
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:20,433
is just to apply more money,
more influencers.
1929
01:15:22,066 --> 01:15:25,266
More attacks on the people
who are looking into it.
1930
01:15:25,733 --> 01:15:28,733
I mean, turning point USA
attacking Joe Kent.
1931
01:15:28,866 --> 01:15:31,766
It's just for trying
to investigate
1932
01:15:31,833 --> 01:15:33,433
whether there could have been
any foreign ties.
1933
01:15:34,300 --> 01:15:35,466
Think about how bizarre
that is.
1934
01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:36,766
Well, I know.
1935
01:15:36,833 --> 01:15:39,199
And what's more bizarre is that
they don't recognize it
1936
01:15:39,366 --> 01:15:40,833
as bizarre when they do it.
1937
01:15:41,633 --> 01:15:42,666
What's wrong with these
people?
1938
01:15:46,766 --> 01:15:49,533
The social IQ there is something
that disturbs me.
1939
01:15:50,066 --> 01:15:53,600
Their inability to understand
that what they're doing
1940
01:15:54,433 --> 01:15:56,433
is going to register
to the public
1941
01:15:56,500 --> 01:15:58,000
as remarkably suspicious.
1942
01:15:58,266 --> 01:16:01,566
Case in point, did no
one tell you
1943
01:16:01,633 --> 01:16:03,566
that you shouldn't be on a Zoom
call laughing about emoji
1944
01:16:03,633 --> 01:16:05,266
six days after your husband
got killed?
1945
01:16:05,966 --> 01:16:07,800
Does someone have to
tell you that?
1946
01:16:08,066 --> 01:16:09,566
What has been rinsed
out of you
1947
01:16:09,933 --> 01:16:12,000
that you don't recognize that
there's something
1948
01:16:12,066 --> 01:16:14,000
deeply wrong with that?
1949
01:16:14,966 --> 01:16:17,433
To get onto a Zoom call 11
1950
01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:19,399
days after he's been
assassinated
1951
01:16:19,733 --> 01:16:22,133
and say we're moving on with
turning point 2.0.
1952
01:16:23,133 --> 01:16:25,333
My husband is dead, not to be
morbid, but he's dead.
1953
01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:26,666
That's acceptance.
1954
01:16:26,833 --> 01:16:30,100
Do you think that she had
something to do with it?
1955
01:16:30,166 --> 01:16:33,266
She was complicit or, I mean,
1956
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,033
we were talking about
this earlier.
1957
01:16:35,266 --> 01:16:36,800
I came here from Boca
Raton for it.
1958
01:16:36,866 --> 01:16:39,633
It's the shallowest fucking
place on the planet.
1959
01:16:40,433 --> 01:16:44,399
You see, 19-year-old girls
with 76-year-old men
1960
01:16:44,566 --> 01:16:48,633
every single day playing
tonsil hockey and more.
1961
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,733
You know, that's just what
that place is.
1962
01:16:54,133 --> 01:16:57,233
Do you think that maybe she,
when they met,
1963
01:16:57,300 --> 01:17:02,333
she just saw a paycheck and
she's a narcissist
1964
01:17:02,399 --> 01:17:05,033
and had no feelings, no love,
no nothing for him.
1965
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:08,866
Just wanted to marry
into a guy
1966
01:17:08,933 --> 01:17:11,133
who's making $150 million
a year.
1967
01:17:13,133 --> 01:17:14,833
Even if everything you just
said was true,
1968
01:17:15,533 --> 01:17:17,399
she was motivated by money
to marry him,
1969
01:17:17,466 --> 01:17:18,733
shouldn't actually love him.
1970
01:17:19,066 --> 01:17:21,366
Let's even add that she hated
him secretly, right?
1971
01:17:22,566 --> 01:17:24,366
When someone dies like that,
1972
01:17:24,866 --> 01:17:28,500
you still have a human
reaction.
1973
01:17:29,433 --> 01:17:32,433
So who would you say is his arch
nemesis, Nick Fuentes?
1974
01:17:33,066 --> 01:17:33,399
Okay.
1975
01:17:34,866 --> 01:17:38,733
He delivered a more impassioned
response
1976
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,633
to what happened to Charlie
than Charlie's wife did.
1977
01:17:42,933 --> 01:17:44,899
Even your worst enemy.
1978
01:17:45,033 --> 01:17:46,533
That's what I'm saying, forget,
remove all that.
1979
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,133
Even if it's your worst
enemy in life,
1980
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:52,899
when someone dies like that,
it stirs you.
1981
01:17:52,966 --> 01:17:53,466
Because you're like, okay,
1982
01:17:53,533 --> 01:17:54,633
I didn't really like
this guy.
1983
01:17:54,933 --> 01:17:58,533
But like, man, anyone
die like that.
1984
01:17:59,133 --> 01:18:04,000
That's not how I wanted to,
you know, debate him.
1985
01:18:05,133 --> 01:18:06,766
I was having fun hating him,
whatever it is.
1986
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,866
That we couldn't get that
from his wife.
1987
01:18:10,933 --> 01:18:13,500
And when I go back, because
I think I did suffer,
1988
01:18:13,566 --> 01:18:16,533
my sister said to me, you
know, right away,
1989
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:17,933
she came down and I
couldn't eat.
1990
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,266
And she said to me, can't
you recognize that?
1991
01:18:21,399 --> 01:18:24,166
To watch somebody that you
know die like that,
1992
01:18:24,566 --> 01:18:25,633
it's like a brain trauma.
1993
01:18:25,733 --> 01:18:27,766
Like my brain was
like trying,
1994
01:18:27,833 --> 01:18:28,833
and I'm sure you understand
this,
1995
01:18:28,899 --> 01:18:31,000
because military guys
deal with death,
1996
01:18:31,066 --> 01:18:33,300
I think a lot more
than we do.
1997
01:18:33,366 --> 01:18:34,833
Like traumatic death
like this.
1998
01:18:34,899 --> 01:18:36,300
But it's like a brain trauma.
1999
01:18:36,366 --> 01:18:37,433
It's the only way you
can describe it.
2000
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:41,000
And so I was not even paying
attention to certain things
2001
01:18:41,066 --> 01:18:42,600
that I now see with very
clear eyes,
2002
01:18:42,666 --> 01:18:44,899
like her speech, like you
said, that the memorial.
2003
01:18:46,133 --> 01:18:47,566
Erica actually doesn't really
tell you anything
2004
01:18:47,633 --> 01:18:48,633
about Charlie in that speech.
2005
01:18:49,366 --> 01:18:50,800
It's a speech that's laying
in the groundwork
2006
01:18:50,866 --> 01:18:52,133
for turning point 2.0.
2007
01:18:52,766 --> 01:18:54,566
She tells you, every time she
speaks about Charlie,
2008
01:18:54,633 --> 01:18:56,366
she actually tells you about
how great she is,
2009
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,233
how much he loved her, how
he wrote her notes,
2010
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,066
how he wanted her to take
over turning point USA.
2011
01:19:03,699 --> 01:19:05,366
And she didn't write
the speech.
2012
01:19:05,533 --> 01:19:07,399
I learned that because they
fired a bunch of people.
2013
01:19:07,466 --> 01:19:08,233
She didn't write the speech.
2014
01:19:08,333 --> 01:19:09,566
Erica doesn't write her
own speeches.
2015
01:19:09,866 --> 01:19:13,533
The idea of not writing
the eulogy,
2016
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,433
and that's why we don't learn
anything about him,
2017
01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:18,633
that we couldn't find
on Wikipedia,
2018
01:19:19,300 --> 01:19:20,699
there was no--
2019
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,066
Substance. There's
no substance.
2020
01:19:24,199 --> 01:19:25,866
Who was Charlie outside of
turning point USA?
2021
01:19:25,933 --> 01:19:27,033
You can't find out in
that speech.
2022
01:19:28,533 --> 01:19:31,000
All Charlie wanted was turning
point USA 2.0.
2023
01:19:31,766 --> 01:19:32,733
Turning point, turning point.
2024
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:33,733
He cared about the students.
2025
01:19:33,933 --> 01:19:36,633
He cared about looking after
men like Tyler Robinson.
2026
01:19:36,699 --> 01:19:37,266
I forgive him.
2027
01:19:37,733 --> 01:19:38,833
This is what turning point's
all about,
2028
01:19:38,899 --> 01:19:39,833
turning point, turning point.
2029
01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:42,000
How many times they say
turning point?
2030
01:19:42,066 --> 01:19:44,266
I mean, even at her
podium speech,
2031
01:19:44,533 --> 01:19:46,066
and I felt weird about
it the first time
2032
01:19:46,133 --> 01:19:47,766
when she, the 48 hours after
where she said,
2033
01:19:48,333 --> 01:19:49,733
you wanna help, here's
what you can do.
2034
01:19:50,033 --> 01:19:51,333
Go to turningpointusa.com.
2035
01:19:52,399 --> 01:19:53,533
I don't know where
an ad read.
2036
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,600
The first time she addresses
the nation,
2037
01:19:56,033 --> 01:19:57,466
go to turningpointusa.com.
2038
01:19:57,533 --> 01:20:01,766
Holy shit. Holy shit.
2039
01:20:01,833 --> 01:20:03,466
I can't even stomach the idea
2040
01:20:03,866 --> 01:20:06,166
of being able to say something
like that,
2041
01:20:06,233 --> 01:20:08,033
but her whole idea was that
this is what he wanted.
2042
01:20:08,300 --> 01:20:10,000
He wanted your money to go
to turning point USA.
2043
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,100
And then you can contrast
it with
2044
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:17,699
Vanessa's speech, Vanessa
Bryant's speech.
2045
01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:22,100
And you see what a grieving
widow looks like.
2046
01:20:22,466 --> 01:20:24,133
And you listen to the
story she told.
2047
01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:25,833
I rewatched her speech,
2048
01:20:26,300 --> 01:20:27,500
and I couldn't get
through it,
2049
01:20:27,566 --> 01:20:29,699
because I loved Kobe Bryant,
2050
01:20:30,066 --> 01:20:32,666
and I loved Kobe on
the court.
2051
01:20:33,533 --> 01:20:34,766
He was amazing at
what he did.
2052
01:20:35,166 --> 01:20:36,833
But how weird if she had
given a speech
2053
01:20:36,899 --> 01:20:38,600
of he dribbled every
single day,
2054
01:20:38,666 --> 01:20:40,066
and what he loved was
the Lakers.
2055
01:20:40,333 --> 01:20:41,733
And if you wanna support
the Lakers
2056
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,133
and support my, she said,
2057
01:20:45,166 --> 01:20:46,600
we didn't even know Kobe.
2058
01:20:46,666 --> 01:20:48,466
The time you get through
her speech,
2059
01:20:48,533 --> 01:20:50,033
you realize you didn't
know Kobe.
2060
01:20:50,699 --> 01:20:52,533
I loved Kobe, who he was
in the court.
2061
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,133
This is her husband, and
she knew Kobe.
2062
01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:57,466
And she shared that with us
2063
01:20:57,533 --> 01:20:59,000
in her eulogy of Vanessa
Bryant.
2064
01:20:59,533 --> 01:21:00,833
Like who he was as a father,
2065
01:21:00,899 --> 01:21:03,833
who he was at home.
2066
01:21:04,899 --> 01:21:07,899
And you realize there's no humanity
in Erica's speech.
2067
01:21:07,966 --> 01:21:09,300
She doesn't want you to
think of Charlie
2068
01:21:09,366 --> 01:21:12,366
as anything other than a vehicle
for turning point USA.
2069
01:21:12,433 --> 01:21:13,433
And he was so much more
than that.
2070
01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:15,066
He was so much more
than that.
2071
01:21:16,300 --> 01:21:19,133
And I think that's why
in retrospect,
2072
01:21:20,333 --> 01:21:23,533
people watched my show,
2073
01:21:23,933 --> 01:21:25,899
and people like Teal
Loren said,
2074
01:21:25,966 --> 01:21:27,199
why do I feel like
she tweeted?
2075
01:21:27,266 --> 01:21:28,433
Why do I feel like
Candace Owens
2076
01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:30,000
is the only one that actually
cared about him?
2077
01:21:30,533 --> 01:21:32,833
I didn't even realize that
when I was just saying,
2078
01:21:33,766 --> 01:21:35,066
sharing all of those little
2079
01:21:35,133 --> 01:21:36,433
moments that I had
with Charlie,
2080
01:21:36,766 --> 01:21:37,966
that that was unique.
2081
01:21:39,266 --> 01:21:41,266
And that nobody was getting
that from anybody
2082
01:21:41,366 --> 01:21:41,966
who worked with him.
2083
01:21:42,033 --> 01:21:43,100
They were just trying
to encourage you
2084
01:21:43,166 --> 01:21:44,366
to donate turning point USA.
2085
01:21:44,666 --> 01:21:46,199
This is what he would have
wanted you to do.
2086
01:21:48,133 --> 01:21:49,100
Holy shit.
2087
01:21:49,866 --> 01:21:52,133
He wasn't like, yes, yes.
2088
01:21:52,199 --> 01:21:55,399
He loved building and he
loved politics
2089
01:21:55,466 --> 01:21:56,000
and all those things.
2090
01:21:56,066 --> 01:22:00,100
But the actual Charlie was,
he was just so funny.
2091
01:22:00,166 --> 01:22:02,166
Like, I mean, it's like the fact
that they didn't tell you
2092
01:22:02,666 --> 01:22:05,399
who Charlie was and how he
was really good at voices
2093
01:22:05,466 --> 01:22:07,366
and like he could mimic
anybody's voice.
2094
01:22:07,766 --> 01:22:12,566
And he was just, he just had
the best sense of humor.
2095
01:22:12,699 --> 01:22:13,466
He really did.
2096
01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:18,766
And everything was just
left on the table.
2097
01:22:18,833 --> 01:22:19,533
They didn't care.
2098
01:22:19,666 --> 01:22:23,033
It was all about building what
Erica was gonna step into.
2099
01:22:26,933 --> 01:22:27,399
Wow.
2100
01:22:29,733 --> 01:22:30,300
Let's take a break.
2101
01:22:33,233 --> 01:22:36,633
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actually start using it.
2102
01:22:36,933 --> 01:22:39,966
Then you find out pretty
quickly what holds up
2103
01:22:40,233 --> 01:22:41,066
and what doesn't.
2104
01:22:41,566 --> 01:22:45,199
That's why I keep coming
back to ROKA.
2105
01:22:45,333 --> 01:22:47,333
These aren't just lifestyle
sunglasses
2106
01:22:47,399 --> 01:22:49,199
pretending to be performance
gear.
2107
01:22:49,566 --> 01:22:51,800
I've worn mine training
on the range,
2108
01:22:51,866 --> 01:22:54,800
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2109
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:59,033
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2110
01:22:59,266 --> 01:23:00,766
They're incredibly
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2111
01:23:01,066 --> 01:23:05,266
The optics are razor sharp
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2112
01:23:05,733 --> 01:23:09,399
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2113
01:23:09,733 --> 01:23:12,533
But they still look clean
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2114
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:17,066
Not overly tactical, just
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2115
01:23:17,166 --> 01:23:18,833
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2116
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:21,699
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2117
01:23:21,833 --> 01:23:23,633
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2118
01:23:23,699 --> 01:23:26,000
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2119
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2120
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2121
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2122
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2123
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2125
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2127
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2128
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2129
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2133
01:24:10,033 --> 01:24:13,166
Welcome to Hollywood
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2134
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:14,600
Did I do it right?
2135
01:24:14,666 --> 01:24:15,266
(beep)
2136
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:19,366
What does he do in
the movies?
2137
01:24:19,899 --> 01:24:20,933
Tell me if I'm doing
this, Rok,
2138
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,133
because I don't watch any
of this shit.
2139
01:24:22,666 --> 01:24:24,233
Little flick like
that, right?
2140
01:24:24,333 --> 01:24:25,333
Seems pretty cool.
2141
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:26,800
It is pretty cool.
2142
01:24:29,233 --> 01:24:30,199
Gotta silence it.
2143
01:24:32,699 --> 01:24:32,933
(gun shots)
2144
01:24:35,366 --> 01:24:38,233
In another lifetime, I did
gun reviews for a living.
2145
01:24:38,633 --> 01:24:41,666
Proprietary magazines, supposedly
the best engineering
2146
01:24:41,733 --> 01:24:42,666
in the world.
2147
01:24:42,733 --> 01:24:44,033
When that breaks, you're
2148
01:24:44,100 --> 01:24:44,899
(beep)
2149
01:24:46,833 --> 01:24:49,066
and now we're bringing
them back.
2150
01:24:53,833 --> 01:24:54,500
It does look pretty
2151
01:24:54,566 --> 01:24:54,766
(beep)
2152
01:24:54,933 --> 01:24:55,266
cool.
2153
01:24:55,433 --> 01:24:57,033
I gotta admit that.
2154
01:25:00,266 --> 01:25:03,833
All right, Candace, let's
get back to you.
2155
01:25:04,833 --> 01:25:10,800
So 2007, looks like you got threats
in your senior year.
2156
01:25:11,033 --> 01:25:11,433
Yeah.
2157
01:25:11,566 --> 01:25:12,266
What was that about?
2158
01:25:12,866 --> 01:25:14,033
I wrote about it in
my first book.
2159
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:15,766
It was one of these moments
that I think
2160
01:25:16,066 --> 01:25:17,633
made me understand the media
2161
01:25:18,266 --> 01:25:25,233
and how the media functions sort
of their ability to lie
2162
01:25:25,300 --> 01:25:27,166
or sort of to create
a narrative.
2163
01:25:27,233 --> 01:25:29,866
And in retrospect,
what happened
2164
01:25:31,033 --> 01:25:32,199
could have just been
understood
2165
01:25:32,333 --> 01:25:33,899
in like a very high
school way.
2166
01:25:34,933 --> 01:25:37,533
I had a best friend who was,
2167
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,533
he was a guy friend of mine.
2168
01:25:40,233 --> 01:25:41,633
And I think he's gay,
by the way.
2169
01:25:41,699 --> 01:25:43,199
I think he ended up being
gay in life,
2170
01:25:43,266 --> 01:25:47,500
but he and I hung out
all the time
2171
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,133
until I got my first
boyfriend.
2172
01:25:49,466 --> 01:25:50,266
And that was it.
2173
01:25:50,333 --> 01:25:52,100
I was totally the typical
standard,
2174
01:25:52,166 --> 01:25:53,100
ditch all your friends,
2175
01:25:53,166 --> 01:25:55,199
spend nonstop time with
your boyfriend.
2176
01:25:55,633 --> 01:25:57,366
And he was really angry and
bitter about that.
2177
01:25:57,699 --> 01:25:59,100
Not because he liked
me or anything,
2178
01:25:59,166 --> 01:26:01,933
but just, it was just, I
guess, a disruption.
2179
01:26:02,399 --> 01:26:06,100
And so one night, I guess, he
rounds up a couple of guys
2180
01:26:06,166 --> 01:26:07,466
who I had never met
in my life,
2181
01:26:07,766 --> 01:26:09,633
which is why it was scary
when it happened,
2182
01:26:09,699 --> 01:26:10,699
because I was thinking,
2183
01:26:10,766 --> 01:26:12,866
I don't know who would leave
me these messages.
2184
01:26:13,766 --> 01:26:16,433
And he left, they left
the boys.
2185
01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:18,899
And I mean, the youngest was
like 12 years old,
2186
01:26:19,300 --> 01:26:20,966
I think having his
first beer.
2187
01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:24,333
And they left like horrifically
racist messages.
2188
01:26:24,399 --> 01:26:25,633
Like, there's no question.
2189
01:26:26,033 --> 01:26:27,500
We're gonna put a bullet in
the back of your head,
2190
01:26:27,566 --> 01:26:28,699
like Rosa Parks.
2191
01:26:28,766 --> 01:26:31,866
I mean, it was a lot.
2192
01:26:31,933 --> 01:26:34,466
And when it happened, I was
like, what on earth?
2193
01:26:34,533 --> 01:26:35,399
Like who's calling me?
2194
01:26:35,466 --> 01:26:36,866
I didn't think it was him.
2195
01:26:37,366 --> 01:26:39,866
Because the voices
warrant his,
2196
01:26:39,933 --> 01:26:42,000
he had different people
in the car.
2197
01:26:42,066 --> 01:26:45,800
But one of the people ended
up being the mayor
2198
01:26:45,866 --> 01:26:48,533
and then eventual governor
of Connecticut's son,
2199
01:26:49,133 --> 01:26:51,000
which turned it into a
political thing.
2200
01:26:51,066 --> 01:26:54,666
And suddenly now, everyone
wanted to cover this.
2201
01:26:55,033 --> 01:26:56,466
I hadn't even reported
it myself.
2202
01:26:56,533 --> 01:26:57,666
I actually was just talking
about it
2203
01:26:57,733 --> 01:26:59,300
in a philosophy class
in high school.
2204
01:26:59,633 --> 01:27:00,866
And my teacher at the time,
2205
01:27:01,133 --> 01:27:02,566
who's now the principal
of the school,
2206
01:27:02,633 --> 01:27:04,100
the high school, he's great,
loved him.
2207
01:27:04,166 --> 01:27:05,833
He was like, this is absolutely
unacceptable.
2208
01:27:06,533 --> 01:27:08,000
You're going in right now,
I'm reporting this.
2209
01:27:08,066 --> 01:27:11,233
And so he went right into the
principal's office
2210
01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:11,899
and reported it.
2211
01:27:11,966 --> 01:27:14,266
And then it felt like
everything was taken
2212
01:27:15,166 --> 01:27:16,633
out of, completely out
of my control.
2213
01:27:16,733 --> 01:27:21,066
And it was like front page
fodder because it was,
2214
01:27:21,133 --> 01:27:23,133
look what the mayor's son
was involved in.
2215
01:27:23,199 --> 01:27:25,133
I had never met the kid
in my entire life.
2216
01:27:26,033 --> 01:27:30,199
And the racism theme and the
NAACP is showing up
2217
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:33,233
on the steps of my
high school.
2218
01:27:33,466 --> 01:27:34,666
They had never spoken to me,
2219
01:27:34,733 --> 01:27:36,533
but the NAACP has got
an NAACP.
2220
01:27:36,933 --> 01:27:39,233
So that kind of shaped my ideas
about them as well.
2221
01:27:40,300 --> 01:27:42,066
Because no one cared about how
we felt at that point.
2222
01:27:42,133 --> 01:27:44,133
No one cared about
really what
2223
01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:45,133
probably should have happened
2224
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:49,800
is he probably should have
been forced to apologize.
2225
01:27:49,866 --> 01:27:53,266
And they probably, rather than
smearing him as a racist,
2226
01:27:53,333 --> 01:27:54,800
I mean, was he a racist?
2227
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,433
No, we were best friends.
2228
01:27:56,733 --> 01:27:57,666
That's kind of the point.
2229
01:27:58,333 --> 01:28:00,466
Did he do something and say
something racist?
2230
01:28:00,533 --> 01:28:01,100
Yes.
2231
01:28:01,566 --> 01:28:03,399
You will be surprised how,
2232
01:28:03,833 --> 01:28:05,366
when you're trying to
hurt someone,
2233
01:28:05,899 --> 01:28:09,399
how easily available it is
to use a racist term,
2234
01:28:09,466 --> 01:28:10,233
even when you're mad.
2235
01:28:10,300 --> 01:28:11,966
I mean, there's comedic
skits about that.
2236
01:28:12,033 --> 01:28:13,133
Everyone turns into a racist
2237
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:14,666
as soon as someone cuts
them off in a car.
2238
01:28:15,033 --> 01:28:19,566
The Spanish guy, the Spanish
guy just cut me off.
2239
01:28:19,699 --> 01:28:20,433
You know what I mean?
2240
01:28:20,500 --> 01:28:22,733
Suddenly we're all racist
when we're angry.
2241
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:24,800
There's some truth to it.
2242
01:28:24,866 --> 01:28:28,066
You know, you catch yourself,
you're sexist too,
2243
01:28:28,166 --> 01:28:30,300
woman driver, like female,
2244
01:28:30,500 --> 01:28:32,500
oh, he's a Chinese man
behind the wheel.
2245
01:28:33,333 --> 01:28:38,433
And so it was the micro of
that pretty much.
2246
01:28:39,266 --> 01:28:42,199
And more traumatizing than
the messages
2247
01:28:42,266 --> 01:28:44,533
was then having my life completely
ripped from me
2248
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,833
and becoming like this micro
celebrity victim, right?
2249
01:28:49,766 --> 01:28:50,566
And nobody cared.
2250
01:28:50,633 --> 01:28:53,066
And everyone's life got ruined
in a different way.
2251
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:56,366
The kids I know ended up getting
into a lot of trouble.
2252
01:28:56,433 --> 01:28:58,533
I think the kid that was
my best friend,
2253
01:28:59,066 --> 01:29:01,100
he, I ended up leaving
school for a bit
2254
01:29:02,166 --> 01:29:04,699
homeschooling just because
I wanted,
2255
01:29:05,033 --> 01:29:07,866
while the FBI was investigating
the authenticity
2256
01:29:07,933 --> 01:29:09,233
of the message as if it was,
2257
01:29:09,466 --> 01:29:10,266
I'm sure that was being
pressed by the--
2258
01:29:10,333 --> 01:29:11,699
Oh, the FBI got involved?
2259
01:29:12,033 --> 01:29:13,066
Yeah, they did.
2260
01:29:13,133 --> 01:29:14,633
And I think it was just
because of the element
2261
01:29:14,699 --> 01:29:17,666
of the politician who was
trying to pretend
2262
01:29:17,733 --> 01:29:20,633
his son didn't do it as if what
I called myself casually
2263
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:22,399
and left these messages.
2264
01:29:22,733 --> 01:29:24,333
I don't know why all of that
was even necessary.
2265
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:25,399
They should have just
confessed,
2266
01:29:25,466 --> 01:29:26,899
but I think they tried to
get away with it
2267
01:29:26,966 --> 01:29:28,466
in like a weird, stupid way.
2268
01:29:28,833 --> 01:29:30,333
And the kids ended up
getting arrested
2269
01:29:30,399 --> 01:29:31,566
and it was definitely not,
2270
01:29:32,399 --> 01:29:34,333
it just wasn't dealt with
in the right way.
2271
01:29:34,399 --> 01:29:36,466
And it became this really
big thing
2272
01:29:36,533 --> 01:29:38,500
that ruined a lot of lives.
2273
01:29:38,566 --> 01:29:43,466
And I think for a kid to be
branded as a racist
2274
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,066
for doing something one night
is really heavy.
2275
01:29:46,166 --> 01:29:47,000
It's really heavy.
2276
01:29:47,399 --> 01:29:50,100
Especially when it's just fundamentally
not true, right?
2277
01:29:50,566 --> 01:29:52,566
Like I said, he wouldn't have
been my best friend
2278
01:29:52,633 --> 01:29:53,399
if he was a racist.
2279
01:29:53,466 --> 01:29:57,000
And he, I will maintain that
he was not a racist.
2280
01:29:57,066 --> 01:29:58,399
He did something really
stupid
2281
01:29:58,466 --> 01:30:00,466
that a lot of really racist
stuff when he was drunk.
2282
01:30:01,500 --> 01:30:02,366
People make mistakes.
2283
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,566
It's hard, especially now in
today's environment
2284
01:30:06,633 --> 01:30:10,000
to allow kids to make
mistakes.
2285
01:30:10,966 --> 01:30:12,199
Everything is so recorded.
2286
01:30:12,266 --> 01:30:14,633
I mean, you see what they do
if they find one tweet
2287
01:30:14,966 --> 01:30:17,933
that someone sent that
said the N word
2288
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,300
when they were 11 years old.
2289
01:30:19,366 --> 01:30:21,266
And I remember sitting
with my cousin,
2290
01:30:21,766 --> 01:30:23,666
my younger cousin one time
and he plays,
2291
01:30:24,666 --> 01:30:25,533
what's the game?
2292
01:30:25,866 --> 01:30:27,966
Not Grand Theft Auto, but
it's one that's like it
2293
01:30:28,033 --> 01:30:29,699
where there's like a lot
of guys love it.
2294
01:30:29,766 --> 01:30:32,233
It's Call of Duty,
Call of Duty.
2295
01:30:32,633 --> 01:30:34,466
And he literally was
12 years old.
2296
01:30:35,133 --> 01:30:36,166
And he's in the chat.
2297
01:30:37,133 --> 01:30:38,333
Have you ever seen this
Call of Duty chat?
2298
01:30:38,399 --> 01:30:39,300
I'm sure you have maybe.
2299
01:30:40,133 --> 01:30:41,566
And it's unbelievable.
2300
01:30:41,766 --> 01:30:43,466
It's just like this whole,
2301
01:30:43,866 --> 01:30:46,966
and he's in there saying
whatever
2302
01:30:47,033 --> 01:30:49,133
and saying, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,
ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,
2303
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:50,100
and throwing a bomb.
2304
01:30:50,166 --> 01:30:51,399
And he's like a 12
year old kid.
2305
01:30:51,466 --> 01:30:53,000
And I'm just sitting here
going, okay,
2306
01:30:53,666 --> 01:30:56,933
this is just 12 year olds just
trying everything out,
2307
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:57,733
saying what they can.
2308
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:58,866
And I'm like, you're gonna
push boundaries.
2309
01:30:58,933 --> 01:31:00,199
I mean, it's a part of
coming of ages,
2310
01:31:00,266 --> 01:31:01,100
like you push boundaries.
2311
01:31:01,166 --> 01:31:03,666
And Louis CK did a really
good skit
2312
01:31:03,733 --> 01:31:06,600
talking about what the phones
are taking away from people.
2313
01:31:07,133 --> 01:31:09,233
And it's this natural stage
2314
01:31:09,300 --> 01:31:11,666
where people wanna try
out being mean.
2315
01:31:12,533 --> 01:31:15,366
And if you say something
to someone's face
2316
01:31:15,433 --> 01:31:16,566
and you see how they react,
2317
01:31:17,233 --> 01:31:19,566
and then you realize you don't
really feel good being mean,
2318
01:31:19,633 --> 01:31:21,033
doesn't actually feel
good to be mean,
2319
01:31:21,366 --> 01:31:24,300
it allows you to kind of edit
yourself as a human being.
2320
01:31:25,033 --> 01:31:26,600
And things are really easy
2321
01:31:26,866 --> 01:31:28,699
when you add technology
as a layer.
2322
01:31:28,766 --> 01:31:30,633
It's easy to tweet something
stupid.
2323
01:31:30,699 --> 01:31:35,066
It's easy to say something vicious
in the comment section.
2324
01:31:35,566 --> 01:31:39,566
And we're now dealing with
a generation of kids
2325
01:31:39,633 --> 01:31:41,500
who are growing up terminally
online.
2326
01:31:41,933 --> 01:31:44,699
Whereas when I was growing up,
my dad had a beeper, right?
2327
01:31:44,866 --> 01:31:47,333
And so I don't have to think
about the record
2328
01:31:47,399 --> 01:31:49,666
where I'm sure I experimented
with being mean
2329
01:31:49,733 --> 01:31:50,533
in middle school.
2330
01:31:51,066 --> 01:31:54,399
And social media has added
another dynamic to it.
2331
01:31:54,833 --> 01:31:56,399
So I kind of reflected
on that
2332
01:31:56,466 --> 01:32:00,966
and again, don't regret any
of the lessons from it.
2333
01:32:01,033 --> 01:32:06,100
But I really do think that it's
just seeing the obsession
2334
01:32:06,166 --> 01:32:09,800
to politicize and the NAACP
and the Democratic mayor
2335
01:32:09,866 --> 01:32:11,300
looking to try to cover
this up,
2336
01:32:11,399 --> 01:32:13,133
it kind of gave me an early
introduction
2337
01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:16,600
to what politics is, which is
not really about solutions.
2338
01:32:16,699 --> 01:32:19,566
You saw it right through all
that shit at 17 years old.
2339
01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:20,833
Wow.
2340
01:32:20,933 --> 01:32:23,333
Well, I lived it and it
didn't help me.
2341
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,800
And so also even just the
politics of victimhood,
2342
01:32:27,266 --> 01:32:28,100
this is a victim.
2343
01:32:28,166 --> 01:32:29,699
Like who wants to
be a victim?
2344
01:32:30,166 --> 01:32:30,899
A lot of people.
2345
01:32:30,966 --> 01:32:31,466
Yeah.
2346
01:32:32,500 --> 01:32:33,500
Well, because money is made
2347
01:32:33,566 --> 01:32:36,766
and that is kind of the
NAACP's grift in that
2348
01:32:36,833 --> 01:32:39,199
is find me a black victim
and I'll show up
2349
01:32:39,266 --> 01:32:41,133
and be in front of the
cameras screaming
2350
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:42,733
about how racism still
exists.
2351
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,733
And by the way, people are always
gonna say racist words
2352
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,033
and sexist words.
2353
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:52,466
And I am just not a big
believer in that.
2354
01:32:52,833 --> 01:32:54,666
I'm not a believer at
all in the idea
2355
01:32:54,733 --> 01:32:56,899
that this is stopping
me from getting
2356
01:32:56,966 --> 01:32:57,899
from point A to point B.
2357
01:32:57,966 --> 01:32:59,100
It's not really my business.
2358
01:32:59,533 --> 01:33:00,933
If somebody doesn't like
black people,
2359
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,766
personally, I think everyone's
just gotten too nosy.
2360
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,000
You're allowed to, when
people ask me why,
2361
01:33:05,066 --> 01:33:09,366
I don't find the inflammatory language
to be such a threat.
2362
01:33:09,433 --> 01:33:11,399
And it's just dumb.
2363
01:33:11,466 --> 01:33:12,966
I find a lot of it to
be really dumb.
2364
01:33:13,033 --> 01:33:16,033
And if you're somebody who
thinks I don't want
2365
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:18,933
to ever date a black girl
or a Spanish girl
2366
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,233
or a white girl, have at it.
2367
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:23,199
A man that doesn't really
impact my life.
2368
01:33:23,266 --> 01:33:25,766
And so a lot of the hyper
focus on that
2369
01:33:25,833 --> 01:33:28,133
is because it keeps people
constantly divided
2370
01:33:28,199 --> 01:33:30,133
and mourning and forming an
opinion about stuff
2371
01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:32,466
that doesn't actually empower
any of us.
2372
01:33:32,666 --> 01:33:34,433
And the people that are intentionally
constantly
2373
01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:37,033
stoking the flames
of that are
2374
01:33:37,100 --> 01:33:38,399
people at the top, of course.
2375
01:33:39,066 --> 01:33:42,100
Does the NAACP actually
do anything
2376
01:33:42,233 --> 01:33:43,899
for the black community? No.
2377
01:33:44,199 --> 01:33:44,600
Nothing.
2378
01:33:45,266 --> 01:33:47,766
They just find another victim
and raise money.
2379
01:33:48,033 --> 01:33:51,033
Of course, if your entire
bottom line
2380
01:33:51,333 --> 01:33:53,266
racism existing, you don't
ever want to go out.
2381
01:33:54,399 --> 01:33:55,566
Duh, common sense.
2382
01:33:55,633 --> 01:33:57,766
It's sort of like, you even
saw this with GLAAD.
2383
01:33:57,833 --> 01:33:58,866
You give another example.
2384
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:01,366
Their whole grift was
all about,
2385
01:34:01,433 --> 01:34:02,533
gay marriage, gay marriage,
gay marriage.
2386
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:03,633
And then they got gay
marriage.
2387
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:04,899
And they were like, oh.
2388
01:34:07,566 --> 01:34:08,800
(both laughing)
2389
01:34:08,866 --> 01:34:11,566
Got any more letters in
that LGB bag?
2390
01:34:11,633 --> 01:34:14,633
And they're like, actually,
here's a T, a Q, an R.
2391
01:34:14,699 --> 01:34:16,833
Let us invent some.
Yeah, exactly.
2392
01:34:16,899 --> 01:34:19,333
So these people are not actually
looking to solve problems.
2393
01:34:19,399 --> 01:34:21,233
They're looking to constantly
have a problem
2394
01:34:21,533 --> 01:34:22,533
that needs to be solved so
2395
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:23,933
that they can fundraise
off of it.
2396
01:34:24,966 --> 01:34:25,933
They create problems.
2397
01:34:26,766 --> 01:34:30,300
(laughs) I mean, I feel
like racial,
2398
01:34:31,933 --> 01:34:33,833
derogatory racial terms.
2399
01:34:34,399 --> 01:34:34,899
I mean, I just,
2400
01:34:36,266 --> 01:34:38,433
it seems like they've completely
lost the weight.
2401
01:34:38,866 --> 01:34:41,266
Yeah. Because they've
overused it.
2402
01:34:41,766 --> 01:34:44,433
Everything in every--
Possible regard.
2403
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:45,533
Yeah.
2404
01:34:46,133 --> 01:34:47,399
And you just also need to,
2405
01:34:48,133 --> 01:34:49,733
we just need people
to be tougher.
2406
01:34:50,533 --> 01:34:53,899
You'll be fine if somebody
calls you the N-word.
2407
01:34:54,266 --> 01:34:57,666
You'll be fine if somebody
calls you a racial slur.
2408
01:34:58,233 --> 01:35:00,533
We just need to kind of build
tougher people
2409
01:35:00,899 --> 01:35:02,600
than to think that they're
all coming apart
2410
01:35:02,666 --> 01:35:03,633
because they've been called
the name.
2411
01:35:03,733 --> 01:35:05,199
I want my kids to be tougher
than that.
2412
01:35:06,633 --> 01:35:07,433
Why do you think they,
2413
01:35:08,766 --> 01:35:09,933
do you think it's for
the money,
2414
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,566
the donations, whatever
it is,
2415
01:35:11,633 --> 01:35:14,366
like the NAACP, or do you think
it's bigger than that?
2416
01:35:14,433 --> 01:35:15,166
Do you think, I mean--
2417
01:35:15,266 --> 01:35:16,466
It can get bigger than that.
2418
01:35:16,633 --> 01:35:18,566
The divide and conquer.
2419
01:35:19,666 --> 01:35:21,733
Absolutely, BLM was
that example.
2420
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,899
I mean, when they get going,
2421
01:35:24,966 --> 01:35:27,699
they can cause people
to be at
2422
01:35:27,766 --> 01:35:29,199
each other's throats warring.
2423
01:35:29,533 --> 01:35:30,699
They will cause a civil war
2424
01:35:30,766 --> 01:35:32,500
before they get people looking
at the corruption
2425
01:35:32,566 --> 01:35:33,300
of what they're doing.
2426
01:35:34,133 --> 01:35:36,000
And that's been tailored
all this time.
2427
01:35:36,199 --> 01:35:37,466
Who do you think they is?
2428
01:35:38,199 --> 01:35:39,600
They's a lot of different
people.
2429
01:35:39,666 --> 01:35:40,833
Well, it depends on what
we're talking about.
2430
01:35:41,899 --> 01:35:45,533
There's totally different
categories
2431
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,699
of topics that I cover
on the show.
2432
01:35:49,733 --> 01:35:54,199
I think the biggest issue that
we have right now in America
2433
01:35:54,300 --> 01:35:55,500
without question is Israel.
2434
01:35:57,433 --> 01:35:57,633
Israel.
2435
01:35:58,966 --> 01:36:03,066
And the satanic people who support
what they're doing.
2436
01:36:04,766 --> 01:36:07,533
The blood thirst, the control,
they behave like a mafia.
2437
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,300
And I'm talking specifically
about Zionists.
2438
01:36:09,366 --> 01:36:10,133
And sometimes people
will say,
2439
01:36:10,199 --> 01:36:11,566
"Well, when you say Zionists,
you mean Jews."
2440
01:36:12,066 --> 01:36:12,933
I want to be very clear,
2441
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:16,133
the Judeo-Christians can be
some of the most toxic,
2442
01:36:16,333 --> 01:36:18,500
gang-like people who are part
of the same apparatus.
2443
01:36:18,566 --> 01:36:20,033
So you actually can't
isolate it.
2444
01:36:21,500 --> 01:36:25,633
But I have found, which has
been the experience,
2445
01:36:25,699 --> 01:36:28,066
I think of a lot of people, especially
over the last year,
2446
01:36:28,466 --> 01:36:30,433
this is a gang, this
is a mafia.
2447
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:31,399
This is not normal.
2448
01:36:31,466 --> 01:36:33,466
What they did, the pressure
they put Charlie under,
2449
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:34,833
what they did to me,
2450
01:36:35,133 --> 01:36:37,633
what they're currently doing
to Megyn Kelly.
2451
01:36:38,033 --> 01:36:39,199
I mean, Megyn Kelly,
I think is
2452
01:36:39,266 --> 01:36:41,399
probably the greatest
example.
2453
01:36:41,466 --> 01:36:42,733
What did Megyn Kelly do?
2454
01:36:42,866 --> 01:36:44,500
Megyn Kelly was like,
"I'm a Zionist."
2455
01:36:44,566 --> 01:36:45,866
And they were like, "We
don't care.
2456
01:36:46,433 --> 01:36:48,466
You say something about Tucker
Carlson right now,
2457
01:36:48,533 --> 01:36:49,300
or we will destroy you."
2458
01:36:50,199 --> 01:36:51,433
And you. That's a mafia.
2459
01:36:51,533 --> 01:36:52,266
And you. Yeah.
2460
01:36:53,033 --> 01:36:53,533
And me.
2461
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:54,899
That's a mafia.
2462
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,866
That is, you are with us or
you are against us.
2463
01:36:57,933 --> 01:37:01,966
And I faced that obviously in
my own life and saw that.
2464
01:37:02,033 --> 01:37:03,433
And I called it out for
what it is.
2465
01:37:03,500 --> 01:37:06,600
And we, it's by the way, we're
late to the party.
2466
01:37:06,766 --> 01:37:08,699
Michael Jackson was trying
to say what it was.
2467
01:37:08,966 --> 01:37:11,000
Kanye West was trying to
say what it was.
2468
01:37:11,066 --> 01:37:12,300
We lived through this mafia.
2469
01:37:12,766 --> 01:37:17,300
And finally, we have people
understanding.
2470
01:37:17,899 --> 01:37:19,100
What did Michael Jackson say?
2471
01:37:19,966 --> 01:37:23,666
Michael Jackson had a list of
the six Jewish people
2472
01:37:23,733 --> 01:37:25,466
who he said were messing
with his life.
2473
01:37:25,533 --> 01:37:26,699
Rabbi Shmueli was
on the list.
2474
01:37:26,766 --> 01:37:29,066
I can't think of the other
people that were on it.
2475
01:37:29,133 --> 01:37:30,500
And that they called him
anti-Semite.
2476
01:37:30,566 --> 01:37:31,766
They called him an
anti-Semite
2477
01:37:31,899 --> 01:37:34,399
because he was talking about
control in Hollywood
2478
01:37:34,466 --> 01:37:37,233
and people that he was
fighting for control.
2479
01:37:37,300 --> 01:37:38,433
Who's Rabbi Shmueli?
2480
01:37:38,866 --> 01:37:43,000
Oh, God, he's just a crazy,
crazy deranged human.
2481
01:37:43,066 --> 01:37:43,933
Am I supposed to know him?
2482
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,600
Well, he had a lot to do with
the Michael Jackson stuff
2483
01:37:47,666 --> 01:37:49,566
because he called himself
Michael Jackson's rabbi.
2484
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,633
And really kind of is
just a person
2485
01:37:52,699 --> 01:37:54,766
that is constantly threatening
people out in the open
2486
01:37:55,233 --> 01:37:57,100
and is somehow allowed
to do it
2487
01:37:57,166 --> 01:37:59,466
because of what his father did
for the State of Israel.
2488
01:37:59,666 --> 01:38:02,100
And often you will find that
thread of the people
2489
01:38:02,166 --> 01:38:04,766
who are the most deranged and
the most psychopathic
2490
01:38:04,833 --> 01:38:08,533
and it somehow seemed to be allowed
to function in society.
2491
01:38:08,633 --> 01:38:10,733
You just have to figure out
who their parents were,
2492
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:11,766
who their uncles were,
2493
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,733
and they've done something
for the State of Israel.
2494
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,600
So they're like in the Zionist
mafia, as I'd describe it.
2495
01:38:17,733 --> 01:38:18,466
It is a mafia.
2496
01:38:19,133 --> 01:38:20,266
There's no question
in my life.
2497
01:38:20,366 --> 01:38:22,066
It's in my mind that
it is a gang.
2498
01:38:22,899 --> 01:38:23,899
What was Kanye saying?
2499
01:38:24,433 --> 01:38:26,500
Well, Kanye, he notoriously
tweeted
2500
01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:29,399
that he was gonna go Def Con
3 on some Jewish people
2501
01:38:29,466 --> 01:38:31,033
that had been toying
with his life.
2502
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,233
And nobody cared when he dropped
the actual text messages
2503
01:38:35,300 --> 01:38:38,033
from his trainer, Harley
Pasternik,
2504
01:38:38,500 --> 01:38:40,833
saying that he would put him
back in the hospital
2505
01:38:41,266 --> 01:38:43,433
and he'd never be able to
see his kids again.
2506
01:38:43,833 --> 01:38:45,100
He dropped the messages.
2507
01:38:45,833 --> 01:38:47,833
We talk about a gangster
threat.
2508
01:38:48,033 --> 01:38:49,633
Like here's how it's
gonna go.
2509
01:38:50,300 --> 01:38:52,333
Harley Pasternik is
a trainer.
2510
01:38:52,833 --> 01:38:55,133
And Kanye was basically,
2511
01:38:55,199 --> 01:38:56,933
before I was awake to this
possibility,
2512
01:38:57,300 --> 01:38:59,800
I was very much around him when
this was all going down,
2513
01:38:59,866 --> 01:39:02,866
he tweeted this and when Adidas
pulled his contract,
2514
01:39:02,933 --> 01:39:05,133
he was at my house and all the
stuff that was going on.
2515
01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:07,366
And he was basically,
2516
01:39:07,766 --> 01:39:08,800
I just thought he was,
2517
01:39:08,866 --> 01:39:10,066
I had no idea what he was
talking about.
2518
01:39:10,300 --> 01:39:13,766
I was like very green to this
concept of someone saying
2519
01:39:13,833 --> 01:39:15,166
that their life was
a Truman Show.
2520
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,766
And he was like, basically like,
are you a real person?
2521
01:39:18,833 --> 01:39:20,833
Like even to me, are you
a real person?
2522
01:39:20,899 --> 01:39:22,033
Like, and I'm like,
are you good?
2523
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:22,800
Like, what do you mean?
2524
01:39:22,866 --> 01:39:25,633
Like, you think I'm a character
in a show that's,
2525
01:39:27,266 --> 01:39:28,066
are you real?
2526
01:39:28,133 --> 01:39:29,266
He was going through this.
2527
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,399
And at its core is,
2528
01:39:32,733 --> 01:39:34,766
he felt like someone was
directing his life
2529
01:39:34,833 --> 01:39:37,966
and that the people had been
controlling him
2530
01:39:38,233 --> 01:39:42,166
and were, he was gonna stand
up to these people.
2531
01:39:42,233 --> 01:39:44,133
But Harley Pasternik was
his trainer.
2532
01:39:44,866 --> 01:39:45,833
I've covered this on my show.
2533
01:39:45,899 --> 01:39:47,033
He's got a very checkered
past.
2534
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:49,666
A lot of his clients have died
in suspicious circumstances.
2535
01:39:50,833 --> 01:39:55,466
And he also was like former
Canadian CIA,
2536
01:39:55,966 --> 01:39:57,666
like psychology or something.
2537
01:39:57,733 --> 01:39:59,300
And then like decided to
go be a gym trainer
2538
01:39:59,366 --> 01:40:00,366
in LA or Hollywood.
2539
01:40:00,766 --> 01:40:01,899
And these are handlers.
2540
01:40:02,433 --> 01:40:03,266
Handlers are real.
2541
01:40:03,333 --> 01:40:06,766
This is a part of the onion
of the Zionist mafia,
2542
01:40:06,899 --> 01:40:10,033
in my view, is the handlers
who are supposed to see
2543
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:12,433
if they can bring you back to
the side of reason.
2544
01:40:12,500 --> 01:40:14,366
Can't you see the error
of your ways?
2545
01:40:14,633 --> 01:40:16,000
And even when you're
completely right,
2546
01:40:16,066 --> 01:40:17,300
their job is to gaslight you
2547
01:40:17,366 --> 01:40:18,699
into thinking that
you're wrong.
2548
01:40:19,266 --> 01:40:21,699
And I've had my experience,
2549
01:40:21,766 --> 01:40:23,800
I believe that I had handlers
and didn't recognize it.
2550
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:28,366
But Kanye, when he kind of
really woke up to that,
2551
01:40:28,966 --> 01:40:31,100
Harley Pasternik, he shared
the message
2552
01:40:31,433 --> 01:40:34,600
that Harley Pasternik, his
trainer, gym trainer,
2553
01:40:35,066 --> 01:40:36,766
wrote to him and he said,
2554
01:40:38,533 --> 01:40:39,766
here's how it's gonna go.
2555
01:40:39,833 --> 01:40:41,533
Maybe he said, you're
gonna say sorry
2556
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:42,733
or something, something.
2557
01:40:43,566 --> 01:40:45,233
And then the message reads,
2558
01:40:45,833 --> 01:40:50,566
or I'll take you back
to Cedar Sinai
2559
01:40:50,633 --> 01:40:52,333
because Harley Pasternik
is the one
2560
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,466
that got Kanye put on
a Site 5150 hole
2561
01:40:55,533 --> 01:40:56,266
when they drugged him.
2562
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,300
And he said, and we'll
take you back to,
2563
01:40:59,666 --> 01:41:01,133
I think he described it
as la-la land.
2564
01:41:01,399 --> 01:41:03,566
And he said, and play dates
with your kids
2565
01:41:03,633 --> 01:41:04,300
will never be the same.
2566
01:41:04,533 --> 01:41:05,399
We'll drug you out of
your minds.
2567
01:41:05,466 --> 01:41:06,966
Holy shit. It's in writing.
2568
01:41:07,533 --> 01:41:08,366
And then we just let it go.
2569
01:41:09,733 --> 01:41:10,899
And said Kanye was crazy.
2570
01:41:10,966 --> 01:41:12,333
I said, no, Harley Pasternik's
crazy.
2571
01:41:13,199 --> 01:41:14,033
Who the hell is this man?
2572
01:41:14,633 --> 01:41:15,766
It's not how a gym trainer
talks.
2573
01:41:16,933 --> 01:41:17,399
Who is this guy?
2574
01:41:18,966 --> 01:41:20,133
Holy shit.
2575
01:41:20,399 --> 01:41:22,766
And so when stars, Hollywood
stars
2576
01:41:22,833 --> 01:41:25,000
have been screaming and
trying to tell you
2577
01:41:25,066 --> 01:41:26,899
that something is wrong and
that they suddenly
2578
01:41:26,966 --> 01:41:28,699
wake up to the fact that
they're in a prison,
2579
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:30,733
the first thing that happens
is another layer
2580
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,699
of the onion comes out and
calls them crazy.
2581
01:41:33,466 --> 01:41:34,333
That's how that works.
2582
01:41:34,399 --> 01:41:36,300
They say this person's having
an emotional breakdown.
2583
01:41:36,366 --> 01:41:37,633
They diagnose the people.
2584
01:41:38,033 --> 01:41:40,500
And the reason for that is
because it was a,
2585
01:41:41,199 --> 01:41:42,699
that strategy of modern
psychology
2586
01:41:42,766 --> 01:41:44,199
was developed by Sigmund
Freud,
2587
01:41:44,633 --> 01:41:46,866
who was a Satanist,
full stop.
2588
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,666
He was into Jewish mysticism.
2589
01:41:49,733 --> 01:41:52,333
He was into the occult, a
Sebastian Frankism.
2590
01:41:52,899 --> 01:41:58,300
And he began gaslighting kids who
actually were being raped
2591
01:41:58,366 --> 01:41:59,366
by their parents in Vienna.
2592
01:42:00,133 --> 01:42:01,466
That is the true story
of Sigmund Freud.
2593
01:42:01,533 --> 01:42:04,600
There's a book on it by the man
who controlled his archives
2594
01:42:04,666 --> 01:42:06,699
called The Assault on Truth.
2595
01:42:07,366 --> 01:42:08,733
This is a book written
by a Jewish man.
2596
01:42:08,966 --> 01:42:11,100
There's no antisemitism
in this book.
2597
01:42:11,566 --> 01:42:14,166
And he worked under Anna Freud
and was due to become
2598
01:42:14,233 --> 01:42:16,166
the next director of a Sigmund
Freud archives.
2599
01:42:16,566 --> 01:42:18,233
So he was a fan of
psychology.
2600
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:19,666
He believed in Sigmund
Freud's theory,
2601
01:42:19,733 --> 01:42:22,899
which was that kids are attracted
to their parents, wacky.
2602
01:42:23,899 --> 01:42:26,066
And then he learned to
speak German
2603
01:42:26,133 --> 01:42:28,100
so that he could read Sigmund
Freud's notes
2604
01:42:28,166 --> 01:42:30,133
and his letters that the
public has never seen.
2605
01:42:30,633 --> 01:42:32,866
And he realized that Sigmund
Freud was a complete fraud.
2606
01:42:33,966 --> 01:42:36,033
And he rang the alarm on it
and said he knew,
2607
01:42:36,233 --> 01:42:39,966
he literally saw and knew
that these kids
2608
01:42:40,033 --> 01:42:42,166
were being abused, that these
kids were being raped.
2609
01:42:42,233 --> 01:42:44,699
In some cases in Vienna, they
were being raped
2610
01:42:44,766 --> 01:42:49,333
and murdered in such satanic,
vicious,
2611
01:42:51,166 --> 01:42:53,966
occult ceremonies that
they died.
2612
01:42:54,466 --> 01:42:56,899
And he would then go
to the morgue.
2613
01:42:56,966 --> 01:42:57,933
He observed their injuries.
2614
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:58,566
He knew it was real.
2615
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:00,333
And he lied because he was
2616
01:43:00,399 --> 01:43:01,933
protecting his pedophile
friends.
2617
01:43:03,366 --> 01:43:04,666
And so they developed,
2618
01:43:05,233 --> 01:43:09,233
Sigmund Freud's contribution
to society is gaslighting.
2619
01:43:10,233 --> 01:43:11,600
He created gaslighting.
2620
01:43:12,433 --> 01:43:14,899
So you can draw a direct line
from Sigmund Freud
2621
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,933
to Hollywood, to modern
propaganda.
2622
01:43:18,066 --> 01:43:21,800
His nephew is Edward Bernays,
the World War II propaganda,
2623
01:43:21,866 --> 01:43:23,333
all of that, that's Edward
Bernays,
2624
01:43:24,033 --> 01:43:26,166
to PR, PR that we have today,
2625
01:43:26,866 --> 01:43:28,833
that the Freud family
is still
2626
01:43:28,899 --> 01:43:30,333
the biggest PR family
in the world.
2627
01:43:30,399 --> 01:43:32,866
They do PR for the royal family,
I mean, Matthew Freud.
2628
01:43:33,466 --> 01:43:36,300
And this is where we're at,
2629
01:43:36,366 --> 01:43:38,633
is gaslighting is another
onion piece of a layer.
2630
01:43:38,699 --> 01:43:40,333
So when you realize someone's
wronged you
2631
01:43:40,833 --> 01:43:43,566
and you say, this is wrong,
2632
01:43:43,699 --> 01:43:46,666
they then send people to try
to make you think
2633
01:43:46,733 --> 01:43:48,100
that you're the crazy person.
2634
01:43:48,399 --> 01:43:50,666
And I dealt with that firsthand,
firsthand.
2635
01:43:51,133 --> 01:43:53,300
Saw how the mafia moves,
2636
01:43:53,366 --> 01:43:55,633
trying to convince me that I
had done something wrong.
2637
01:43:55,933 --> 01:43:57,433
When I tweeted, genocide
is always wrong.
2638
01:43:58,133 --> 01:44:00,600
The messages were insane
that I received.
2639
01:44:01,133 --> 01:44:03,733
I had to read my tweet like a
thousand times and go,
2640
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:05,166
did I say something in here?
2641
01:44:05,633 --> 01:44:06,899
Like genocide is always
wrong.
2642
01:44:06,966 --> 01:44:08,566
You said genocide is wrong
and then--
2643
01:44:08,866 --> 01:44:10,733
Genocide is always wrong.
2644
01:44:13,333 --> 01:44:14,266
Holy shit.
2645
01:44:14,633 --> 01:44:16,866
Who do you think your
handlers were?
2646
01:44:19,766 --> 01:44:21,666
How close to you were they?
2647
01:44:22,366 --> 01:44:23,766
They were all, I mean, it
was very apparent,
2648
01:44:23,833 --> 01:44:24,600
but it was all around me.
2649
01:44:24,833 --> 01:44:29,500
It was, I think probably the
most skilled handler
2650
01:44:30,399 --> 01:44:33,166
and was Marissa.
2651
01:44:33,233 --> 01:44:34,933
I didn't realize until
that moment
2652
01:44:35,033 --> 01:44:38,899
that she messaged
me and said,
2653
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,833
I wanna help you, you don't
wanna go down this route.
2654
01:44:41,899 --> 01:44:44,000
If you go down this route,
I can't protect you.
2655
01:44:44,466 --> 01:44:46,966
And I stood up for myself and
the messages and I said,
2656
01:44:47,033 --> 01:44:48,766
Marissa, go down what route?
2657
01:44:48,899 --> 01:44:50,933
Like, what am I doing here
that's wrong?
2658
01:44:51,366 --> 01:44:53,033
I'm a grown adult woman.
2659
01:44:53,366 --> 01:44:54,533
I know what I'm saying.
2660
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:56,666
I believe genocide is
always wrong.
2661
01:44:56,766 --> 01:44:58,166
I mean, this would all be
a text message,
2662
01:44:58,233 --> 01:44:59,066
so I still have it.
2663
01:44:59,266 --> 01:44:59,899
Who's Marissa?
2664
01:45:00,100 --> 01:45:04,533
Marissa is the CEO of Prager
University, PragerU.
2665
01:45:05,366 --> 01:45:06,633
And then of course, the
Daily Wire,
2666
01:45:07,033 --> 01:45:08,766
who were trying to
convince me
2667
01:45:08,833 --> 01:45:10,933
that I owed Ben an apology
2668
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:14,199
for saying genocide is
always wrong.
2669
01:45:14,266 --> 01:45:16,866
I mean, watching that psychological
element
2670
01:45:16,933 --> 01:45:18,199
of them trying to convince me
2671
01:45:18,266 --> 01:45:20,366
that I had done something
wrong was insane.
2672
01:45:21,500 --> 01:45:24,033
And Dave Rubin was
messaging me.
2673
01:45:24,933 --> 01:45:29,433
It was just full on everyone
trying to explain to me,
2674
01:45:29,899 --> 01:45:30,800
like, let me help you.
2675
01:45:31,199 --> 01:45:32,966
It's always the approach of
like, I'm your friend
2676
01:45:33,399 --> 01:45:36,133
and I'm trying to help you realize
the error of your ways.
2677
01:45:37,033 --> 01:45:39,866
And it's just full blown
gaslighting.
2678
01:45:41,466 --> 01:45:43,866
And I stood firm on it and
was like, no, I'm,
2679
01:45:45,133 --> 01:45:45,833
I know what I wrote.
2680
01:45:46,333 --> 01:45:47,633
And I meant every word of it.
2681
01:45:47,699 --> 01:45:48,566
Genocide is always wrong.
2682
01:45:49,633 --> 01:45:50,533
Still stand by that.
2683
01:45:57,433 --> 01:45:58,433
Yeah, you gotta be careful.
2684
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:00,566
How do you hire?
2685
01:46:02,866 --> 01:46:04,199
Well-- That's like the most,
2686
01:46:05,066 --> 01:46:07,233
I get so fucking paranoid
when I have to hire.
2687
01:46:08,033 --> 01:46:10,333
I hate, I mean, everybody
hates hiring.
2688
01:46:10,933 --> 01:46:12,433
I really fucking hate hiring.
2689
01:46:12,766 --> 01:46:13,199
Yeah.
2690
01:46:13,566 --> 01:46:14,800
Because I don't trust
anybody.
2691
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:17,433
Yeah, I trust my gut.
2692
01:46:17,533 --> 01:46:18,566
How do you find your people?
2693
01:46:19,166 --> 01:46:20,800
Well, I've benefited
from the fact
2694
01:46:20,866 --> 01:46:24,133
that I've had the same
people on my team
2695
01:46:24,633 --> 01:46:27,466
for over five years now.
2696
01:46:27,933 --> 01:46:29,633
So when I got fired from
a Daily Wire,
2697
01:46:29,699 --> 01:46:30,500
my team came with me
and I said,
2698
01:46:30,566 --> 01:46:30,733
"Hey, I'm gonna hire you."
And my team came with me,
2699
01:46:31,233 --> 01:46:33,633
which was a tremendous mode
of confidence at the time
2700
01:46:33,699 --> 01:46:35,366
because we didn't know, we
didn't have anything.
2701
01:46:35,433 --> 01:46:36,399
We were just sort of like,
2702
01:46:36,466 --> 01:46:38,000
"Look, we can't give you
any benefits.
2703
01:46:38,066 --> 01:46:39,633
We don't know if this is
gonna work, obviously."
2704
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,466
And the Daily Wire at that
time was paying
2705
01:46:42,533 --> 01:46:45,566
a lot of money, they
had benefits,
2706
01:46:45,633 --> 01:46:46,966
they had security.
2707
01:46:47,500 --> 01:46:50,533
And my editor came over, my
producer came over,
2708
01:46:50,899 --> 01:46:52,000
technical director.
2709
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,899
And so it was a tremendous
mode of confidence
2710
01:46:54,966 --> 01:46:56,199
that they came over with me.
2711
01:46:57,133 --> 01:46:58,833
So I know that they
believe in me
2712
01:46:58,899 --> 01:46:59,766
and they believe in what
I'm doing.
2713
01:46:59,833 --> 01:47:02,500
So I'm lucky that we don't
have a high turnover rate
2714
01:47:03,399 --> 01:47:04,899
and I haven't had to
be trusting.
2715
01:47:05,766 --> 01:47:08,399
And I'm just very grateful,
I think,
2716
01:47:08,466 --> 01:47:10,633
for to have that.
2717
01:47:10,699 --> 01:47:14,033
And we're tight, we have a
good time, we have fun.
2718
01:47:14,633 --> 01:47:17,033
I believe in SEAL Team Six.
2719
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:20,300
I like to keep the team small
and effective.
2720
01:47:20,366 --> 01:47:24,100
I don't care about
appearances
2721
01:47:24,166 --> 01:47:25,899
and having 90 people
working for me
2722
01:47:25,966 --> 01:47:29,666
and I can dress myself,
why all this is.
2723
01:47:30,333 --> 01:47:32,566
So it's a small team.
2724
01:47:33,333 --> 01:47:37,166
And when we do have to hire,
I go with my gut.
2725
01:47:38,066 --> 01:47:42,600
We recently hired a new director
and he's been fantastic.
2726
01:47:42,666 --> 01:47:44,566
And the reason why he was
great is he just totally
2727
01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:48,266
sits outside of the entire
wheelhouse of politics.
2728
01:47:48,333 --> 01:47:51,833
So he was just a burst
of fresh air
2729
01:47:51,899 --> 01:47:54,300
and loves to research.
2730
01:47:54,366 --> 01:47:56,100
It's just a great positive
attitude
2731
01:47:56,166 --> 01:47:58,600
and you have to wanna be
around the people too.
2732
01:47:59,000 --> 01:47:59,733
You spend a lot of time,
2733
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:01,233
you're fighting a lot of
battles with them.
2734
01:48:01,933 --> 01:48:03,866
And so you wanna keep
them motivated
2735
01:48:03,933 --> 01:48:06,500
and have a good time and
be able to laugh
2736
01:48:06,566 --> 01:48:09,899
and enjoy each other, have
the same values in life.
2737
01:48:09,966 --> 01:48:11,166
I think everybody on my team
2738
01:48:11,233 --> 01:48:12,433
is in a really good
place in life,
2739
01:48:12,933 --> 01:48:16,000
fulfilled by their relationships,
by their marriages.
2740
01:48:17,566 --> 01:48:18,633
So it just, it feels good.
2741
01:48:19,399 --> 01:48:20,866
Good for you. Yeah, we're
in a good spot.
2742
01:48:21,266 --> 01:48:21,833
Good for you.
2743
01:48:23,666 --> 01:48:25,366
All right, let's go back
a couple of years.
2744
01:48:25,899 --> 01:48:28,100
Where'd you go to college,
Dr. Harris?
2745
01:48:28,166 --> 01:48:29,800
Went to the University
of Rhode Island.
2746
01:48:31,166 --> 01:48:33,666
That incident in high
school happened
2747
01:48:34,199 --> 01:48:35,733
when it was in my
senior year.
2748
01:48:35,833 --> 01:48:38,133
So it kind of threw my entire
senior year into chaos
2749
01:48:38,199 --> 01:48:41,100
and I'm lucky I even applied
to college.
2750
01:48:41,166 --> 01:48:43,166
I almost didn't even apply
because it was so crazy.
2751
01:48:43,699 --> 01:48:46,699
And the URI was like
close enough.
2752
01:48:46,766 --> 01:48:50,466
I just applied to URI, got
in, went there.
2753
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:51,933
What'd you wanna study?
2754
01:48:52,766 --> 01:48:53,800
English and journalism.
2755
01:48:53,866 --> 01:48:55,366
I have a double major in
English and journalism.
2756
01:48:55,433 --> 01:48:56,800
So I think it's quite
fitting.
2757
01:48:59,399 --> 01:48:59,766
Yeah.
2758
01:49:00,766 --> 01:49:01,600
Where do we go from there?
2759
01:49:02,433 --> 01:49:03,899
Where do I, where did
I go from there?
2760
01:49:04,666 --> 01:49:07,833
So actually the story is I
finished my degree later
2761
01:49:07,899 --> 01:49:10,366
because Sallie Mae had
a huge collapse
2762
01:49:10,433 --> 01:49:15,166
and didn't give me my loan for
my senior year of college.
2763
01:49:15,233 --> 01:49:17,100
I have senior year issues,
I've realized.
2764
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:19,866
So you've got some senior
year issues.
2765
01:49:20,399 --> 01:49:22,466
And so I had to figure
it out.
2766
01:49:22,633 --> 01:49:24,500
Sallie Mae basically
was like,
2767
01:49:24,566 --> 01:49:26,633
you have one year before we start
knocking on your door
2768
01:49:26,699 --> 01:49:28,166
and demanding your first
born child.
2769
01:49:28,233 --> 01:49:30,600
They had 100K in student
loan debt.
2770
01:49:30,699 --> 01:49:32,833
They weren't gonna pay for
it last year, crazy.
2771
01:49:33,666 --> 01:49:39,266
I could wax poetic about the
industry of student loans.
2772
01:49:39,333 --> 01:49:41,466
It's so predatory.
2773
01:49:42,166 --> 01:49:44,699
Finding poor people and getting
them to pledge,
2774
01:49:45,066 --> 01:49:47,100
it's just good to be in debt for
the rest of their lives.
2775
01:49:47,633 --> 01:49:50,699
But I then moved to
New York City.
2776
01:49:50,766 --> 01:49:51,633
I had no plan.
2777
01:49:51,699 --> 01:49:53,766
I picked up a job nannying.
2778
01:49:54,933 --> 01:49:57,100
And it was like while
I was nannying,
2779
01:49:57,166 --> 01:49:58,933
if I could just start
applying for jobs,
2780
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:03,600
because these loans were
starting to haunt me,
2781
01:50:03,666 --> 01:50:05,666
I needed to make some money
and get out of debt.
2782
01:50:05,733 --> 01:50:08,800
And so I was like, if I get my
foot in the door anywhere,
2783
01:50:08,866 --> 01:50:09,833
I can sell myself.
2784
01:50:09,899 --> 01:50:12,066
I can learn anything.
2785
01:50:12,433 --> 01:50:13,466
I'm a really hard worker.
2786
01:50:13,533 --> 01:50:16,500
And my second interview at a
private equity firm,
2787
01:50:16,566 --> 01:50:19,266
I saw that they pay their
assistance really well,
2788
01:50:19,899 --> 01:50:21,166
these private equity guys.
2789
01:50:21,233 --> 01:50:23,933
And so my second interview at
a private equity firm,
2790
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,399
I got hired to be a second
assistant
2791
01:50:27,033 --> 01:50:29,733
and hired on the spot, which
was fantastic.
2792
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:31,933
And then I stayed with that
company for four years.
2793
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:33,566
And when I left, I was like
the vice president
2794
01:50:33,633 --> 01:50:34,533
of the administration.
2795
01:50:34,866 --> 01:50:35,433
Wow.
2796
01:50:35,500 --> 01:50:36,766
They were fantastic to me.
2797
01:50:36,833 --> 01:50:37,899
I was treated really well.
2798
01:50:38,666 --> 01:50:40,066
And I got to travel the world
2799
01:50:40,133 --> 01:50:41,300
because it was one
of those jobs
2800
01:50:41,366 --> 01:50:43,366
where I had to do everything,
everything.
2801
01:50:43,433 --> 01:50:45,399
I mean, his wife--
2802
01:50:45,500 --> 01:50:48,033
Did you just say you went
from second assistant
2803
01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:50,633
to VP of the entire company
in four years?
2804
01:50:50,699 --> 01:50:52,466
VP of the administration, it
was a small company.
2805
01:50:52,533 --> 01:50:53,399
So I don't wanna make it,
2806
01:50:53,466 --> 01:50:55,000
it wasn't like there was like
a thousand employees.
2807
01:50:55,066 --> 01:50:58,300
It was like a almost like a
family style trade desk,
2808
01:50:59,233 --> 01:51:01,699
a true private equity
structure.
2809
01:51:02,899 --> 01:51:06,366
I mean, maybe 18 employees,
which was nice.
2810
01:51:06,433 --> 01:51:08,100
It's actually is part of the
reason why I liked the idea
2811
01:51:08,166 --> 01:51:09,833
of a small team, because
I saw it work.
2812
01:51:10,433 --> 01:51:12,199
And they were killers.
2813
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:13,899
We worked really hard.
2814
01:51:14,399 --> 01:51:18,000
And I got to meet a lot of
really cool people.
2815
01:51:18,066 --> 01:51:19,433
They invested also in movies
2816
01:51:19,500 --> 01:51:23,333
and there was a lot of
traveling involved.
2817
01:51:23,399 --> 01:51:25,733
So I got to see the world on
somebody else's dime,
2818
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:26,566
which was great too.
2819
01:51:27,366 --> 01:51:31,233
Because he also, when he had
crises happening
2820
01:51:31,300 --> 01:51:32,766
in his personal life, he
really trusted me
2821
01:51:32,833 --> 01:51:34,566
to just learn anything and
figure it out.
2822
01:51:34,899 --> 01:51:37,033
Whether it was building a
house in Montauk,
2823
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:39,500
whether it was, I mean,
I ended up
2824
01:51:40,066 --> 01:51:42,233
with Snoop Dogg in Croatia,
you know what I mean?
2825
01:51:42,300 --> 01:51:45,866
Like there were so many
crazy adventures
2826
01:51:46,233 --> 01:51:47,966
and no two days were
the same.
2827
01:51:48,833 --> 01:51:50,533
So I had a fantastic time
while I was there.
2828
01:51:51,133 --> 01:51:53,766
And I was there to pay off
my student loans.
2829
01:51:53,833 --> 01:51:55,966
And so every time bonus
season came around,
2830
01:51:56,033 --> 01:51:57,600
I would just ask him to
pay another chunk.
2831
01:51:58,566 --> 01:52:00,033
Hey, can you pay another chunk,
pay another chunk?
2832
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:00,633
And he did.
2833
01:52:01,133 --> 01:52:03,066
I was working for the
principal there.
2834
01:52:03,133 --> 01:52:06,066
And so they also even
put me through,
2835
01:52:06,899 --> 01:52:08,833
I went down to learn Spanish.
2836
01:52:09,066 --> 01:52:13,800
I moved to Costa Rica before,
was it a eight week program?
2837
01:52:14,100 --> 01:52:16,233
And you live with a family that
doesn't speak any English
2838
01:52:16,300 --> 01:52:19,066
because he had a wife that
was Spanish speaking.
2839
01:52:19,133 --> 01:52:20,800
And so she hired a lot
of Spanish staff.
2840
01:52:20,866 --> 01:52:21,966
And I was like, well, I gotta
learn the language.
2841
01:52:22,033 --> 01:52:23,733
I can't manage the staff if I
don't know the language.
2842
01:52:24,266 --> 01:52:26,733
And so because they traveled,
you know,
2843
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,166
everyone goes to Montauk or the
Hamptons for the summer.
2844
01:52:30,233 --> 01:52:32,166
I was like, I just, I
found a program.
2845
01:52:32,366 --> 01:52:33,233
Can you pay for me to
go down there?
2846
01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:34,133
I'll learn Spanish.
2847
01:52:34,533 --> 01:52:35,366
And so I did that.
2848
01:52:36,333 --> 01:52:37,600
You learn, so you speak
Spanish.
2849
01:52:37,666 --> 01:52:40,366
Yeah, well, I'm now really,
really rusty, but I did.
2850
01:52:40,433 --> 01:52:43,399
I was fluent in Spanish and I
2851
01:52:43,466 --> 01:52:44,366
can understand Spanish
though.
2852
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:48,266
And so, yeah, I mean, I
really lived a lot
2853
01:52:48,333 --> 01:52:51,733
in those four and a half
years that I was there.
2854
01:52:53,133 --> 01:52:58,433
Saw a lot of the world and just,
I always wanted to grow.
2855
01:52:58,500 --> 01:53:00,500
I always wanted, I like
learning.
2856
01:53:00,666 --> 01:53:01,399
I like learning.
2857
01:53:01,466 --> 01:53:03,566
I like focusing anything that
I put my mind to.
2858
01:53:03,633 --> 01:53:04,566
I feel like I can learn.
2859
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:10,166
And that was kind of my introduction
to, I mean,
2860
01:53:10,233 --> 01:53:11,933
there's no place, if you can
make it in New York,
2861
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:13,533
you can make it anywhere,
that's the expression.
2862
01:53:14,033 --> 01:53:15,699
And I live by that.
2863
01:53:15,766 --> 01:53:16,600
I really do believe that,
2864
01:53:16,666 --> 01:53:17,966
because it's such a
tough city.
2865
01:53:18,266 --> 01:53:19,366
What were you doing at Vogue?
2866
01:53:20,333 --> 01:53:22,033
So that's when I was interning
initially.
2867
01:53:22,266 --> 01:53:25,199
I was interning and I did the
whole magazine circuit.
2868
01:53:25,266 --> 01:53:27,766
So I did Seventeen magazine,
I did Glamour magazine,
2869
01:53:28,300 --> 01:53:30,500
and I did Vogue, which
was the big one
2870
01:53:30,566 --> 01:53:31,699
that everyone wants
to get into.
2871
01:53:31,866 --> 01:53:37,333
And it was, of course, as somebody
who loved to write,
2872
01:53:37,399 --> 01:53:38,899
I majored in English
and journalism.
2873
01:53:38,966 --> 01:53:41,133
That was my glamorous idea,
2874
01:53:41,199 --> 01:53:43,266
was that I was gonna go move
to New York City
2875
01:53:43,666 --> 01:53:46,566
and I don't know, be Carrie Bradshaw
from Sex and the City.
2876
01:53:46,633 --> 01:53:48,100
I don't know what
my idea was.
2877
01:53:48,166 --> 01:53:50,966
It was in retrospect, a
little bit cartoonish.
2878
01:53:51,500 --> 01:53:53,699
And then when I got there, I
just culturally was like,
2879
01:53:54,033 --> 01:53:55,133
yeah, I don't even wanna
do this.
2880
01:53:55,433 --> 01:53:56,399
This is not where I
wanna work.
2881
01:53:56,466 --> 01:53:59,533
The girls were so vicious,
so hungry.
2882
01:54:00,266 --> 01:54:03,033
But I learned a lot.
2883
01:54:03,399 --> 01:54:05,933
They would have fond
memories of me.
2884
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,100
I brushed my butt off and
that was why I graduated
2885
01:54:08,500 --> 01:54:13,899
up to the magazines and was the
head of the intern closet,
2886
01:54:13,966 --> 01:54:17,199
so to speak, at Vogue and
made great friends.
2887
01:54:18,366 --> 01:54:21,399
So I've been a lot of
places, really,
2888
01:54:21,466 --> 01:54:22,399
when I think about it.
2889
01:54:22,466 --> 01:54:22,800
I see that.
2890
01:54:23,833 --> 01:54:26,000
New York was tough,
it was fun,
2891
01:54:26,466 --> 01:54:28,166
it was a lot of lessons
learned.
2892
01:54:28,233 --> 01:54:32,866
And they even, the private equity
firm even let me take,
2893
01:54:32,933 --> 01:54:34,199
because I wanted to learn a
2894
01:54:34,266 --> 01:54:35,199
little bit about private
equity.
2895
01:54:35,333 --> 01:54:37,833
I became a notary, because
anytime they were like,
2896
01:54:37,899 --> 01:54:40,033
we need this, I was like, how
many times am I gonna get
2897
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:41,333
notary in here, why don't I
just become a notary?
2898
01:54:41,466 --> 01:54:42,300
That's the kind of
person I am.
2899
01:54:42,433 --> 01:54:44,566
Like, so I just took the test
and became a notary
2900
01:54:44,933 --> 01:54:49,333
and then did this NYU accounting
course as well,
2901
01:54:49,399 --> 01:54:51,033
because I wanted to understand
a little bit more
2902
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:53,899
about the finance side of
what we were doing,
2903
01:54:53,966 --> 01:54:55,199
because I was interested
in the deals.
2904
01:54:55,266 --> 01:54:57,500
They were really all so different
that were being brought
2905
01:54:58,366 --> 01:55:00,266
so it was fun, it was
a lot of fun.
2906
01:55:03,366 --> 01:55:05,933
It's 3 a.m., you hear a noise
in the house,
2907
01:55:06,033 --> 01:55:09,233
and in that moment, you do not
wanna be fumbling around,
2908
01:55:09,300 --> 01:55:11,966
looking for keys, hoping a
battery still works,
2909
01:55:12,033 --> 01:55:14,866
or trying to figure out a
plan for the first time.
2910
01:55:14,933 --> 01:55:16,899
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2912
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2913
01:55:20,966 --> 01:55:22,100
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2914
01:55:22,166 --> 01:55:24,066
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2915
01:55:24,133 --> 01:55:27,033
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2916
01:55:27,100 --> 01:55:29,500
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2917
01:55:29,566 --> 01:55:31,100
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2918
01:55:31,166 --> 01:55:33,633
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2919
01:55:33,866 --> 01:55:35,300
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2920
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2921
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2922
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2923
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01:56:19,133 --> 01:56:20,233
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2937
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:22,733
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2938
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:24,866
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2939
01:56:24,933 --> 01:56:26,000
he was always conservative.
2940
01:56:26,066 --> 01:56:26,966
I'm like, what's wrong
with you?
2941
01:56:28,899 --> 01:56:32,100
He's the rare person who was
always conservative,
2942
01:56:32,500 --> 01:56:36,500
and I was liberal in the way that
you don't know anything,
2943
01:56:36,566 --> 01:56:39,066
and it just kind of sounds
better even.
2944
01:56:39,633 --> 01:56:40,433
Are you a liberal or
conservative?
2945
01:56:40,500 --> 01:56:42,966
I'm a liberal, I'm a liberal,
what do you mean?
2946
01:56:43,533 --> 01:56:45,466
And I think any time--
2947
01:56:45,533 --> 01:56:46,399
What do you mean?
2948
01:56:46,566 --> 01:56:47,699
Yeah, what do you mean?
2949
01:56:48,066 --> 01:56:49,333
Before you have bills,
2950
01:56:50,366 --> 01:56:54,866
life is so, it's so easy
to be idealistic
2951
01:56:55,033 --> 01:56:56,266
when you don't have
to pay bills
2952
01:56:56,333 --> 01:56:58,466
and you don't really comprehend
the issues,
2953
01:56:58,533 --> 01:57:00,066
then you lean into the
emotional issues
2954
01:57:00,133 --> 01:57:01,333
and live and let live.
2955
01:57:01,399 --> 01:57:05,466
You love these stupid bumper sticker
expressions you see.
2956
01:57:05,766 --> 01:57:08,833
It all's so nice, it fits
your AIM profile.
2957
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:13,466
Let me find a quotation to put
on my going away message
2958
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:17,366
on AIM, like the youth, you're
liberal when you're young.
2959
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:18,800
There's that expression,
2960
01:57:18,866 --> 01:57:23,800
who says the expression that
if you're not a liberal
2961
01:57:23,933 --> 01:57:25,233
when you're young, you don't
have a heart.
2962
01:57:25,633 --> 01:57:26,866
If you're not a conservative
when you die,
2963
01:57:26,933 --> 01:57:27,566
you don't have a brain.
2964
01:57:30,933 --> 01:57:30,966
(laughing)
2965
01:57:32,100 --> 01:57:33,633
Then you suddenly you're
paying taxes
2966
01:57:33,699 --> 01:57:35,066
and you're like, hey, where's
this money going?
2967
01:57:35,833 --> 01:57:37,300
Why am I working so hard?
2968
01:57:37,500 --> 01:57:40,733
And then your philosophy changes
a bit as you get older,
2969
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,399
but I never was politically
inclined,
2970
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:44,399
so I never voted Democrat.
2971
01:57:44,633 --> 01:57:47,133
I was just, I would have very
much described myself
2972
01:57:47,199 --> 01:57:49,566
as a liberal and if you had
asked me any topic,
2973
01:57:49,633 --> 01:57:52,399
I would have been, I
would have been
2974
01:57:52,833 --> 01:57:54,533
across the Democratic
party line
2975
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:56,433
if I was actually voting,
but I wasn't.
2976
01:57:56,766 --> 01:57:57,466
What switched you?
2977
01:58:00,033 --> 01:58:03,500
You know, I had this curious
set of circumstances
2978
01:58:03,566 --> 01:58:06,800
that brought me to like something
that was known
2979
01:58:06,866 --> 01:58:08,800
as the gamer gate conspiracy.
2980
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:09,466
What is that?
2981
01:58:10,433 --> 01:58:12,199
Honestly, I still couldn't
tell you,
2982
01:58:12,333 --> 01:58:13,800
to be honest with you, because
I'm not a gamer,
2983
01:58:13,866 --> 01:58:16,899
as I just said, but I was
like Alice in Wonderland
2984
01:58:16,966 --> 01:58:21,300
and was trying to, I put
up a Kickstarter
2985
01:58:21,666 --> 01:58:23,933
to put together a company.
2986
01:58:24,300 --> 01:58:27,833
I had this idea after I paid down
all of my student loans
2987
01:58:27,899 --> 01:58:30,466
and I had a little savings account
that I wanted to start
2988
01:58:30,699 --> 01:58:33,666
and it was maybe all heart,
no brain,
2989
01:58:34,133 --> 01:58:36,800
a company that would
get kids into,
2990
01:58:37,066 --> 01:58:39,466
to be able to like get in
trouble on the internet
2991
01:58:39,533 --> 01:58:42,166
without having these consequences
like being arrested.
2992
01:58:42,566 --> 01:58:44,899
And so my bright idea was
that I was gonna create
2993
01:58:44,966 --> 01:58:46,533
this company called
Social Autopsy
2994
01:58:46,833 --> 01:58:48,633
and if they got in trouble
online,
2995
01:58:48,699 --> 01:58:52,766
they wouldn't like get into
legal trouble
2996
01:58:53,066 --> 01:58:55,466
and rather than that, it would
sort of help them,
2997
01:58:56,366 --> 01:58:58,133
like I don't maybe get suspended
or something.
2998
01:58:58,199 --> 01:59:01,333
Like it was like my way of trying
to right the wrongs,
2999
01:59:01,399 --> 01:59:03,133
maybe misguided from what
happened in high school,
3000
01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:05,633
totally misguided and I
was very green.
3001
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:08,033
And I put it up on
Kickstarter
3002
01:59:08,766 --> 01:59:12,166
and I got this weird call from
this girl called Zoe Quinn.
3003
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,199
Gamers who are watching this will
know exactly who this is,
3004
01:59:15,266 --> 01:59:16,566
they'll be like, yes,
the gamer,
3005
01:59:16,733 --> 01:59:18,333
that's how I knew you
or whatever.
3006
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:20,666
And it was really weird because
she was telling me
3007
01:59:20,733 --> 01:59:22,600
she was a victim and that I couldn't
make this company.
3008
01:59:22,666 --> 01:59:25,666
She misunderstood what we were
even thinking about doing.
3009
01:59:25,733 --> 01:59:28,000
She thought we were gonna
build a technology
3010
01:59:28,066 --> 01:59:30,133
like a Silicon Valley
technology
3011
01:59:30,300 --> 01:59:32,266
to unmask trolls on
the internet,
3012
01:59:32,733 --> 01:59:34,433
which was not at all what
we were doing.
3013
01:59:34,500 --> 01:59:35,533
We had no capability
to do this.
3014
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,866
We had a splash page, that's
why we were on Kickstarter.
3015
01:59:38,100 --> 01:59:39,766
I had no connections to be
able to do that.
3016
01:59:40,199 --> 01:59:42,266
But her call, she was saying
she was a victim,
3017
01:59:42,333 --> 01:59:43,899
but it was very obvious she
was threatening me.
3018
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:46,633
And I didn't know anything about
this girl or "Gamergate."
3019
01:59:46,699 --> 01:59:49,899
And long story short, after I
hang out the phone call
3020
01:59:49,966 --> 01:59:51,633
with her, I start getting hit
3021
01:59:51,699 --> 01:59:53,233
with a bunch of threats
online.
3022
01:59:53,300 --> 01:59:54,733
It was very obvious to
me that this girl
3023
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:58,233
was directing threats, just
my gut instinct
3024
01:59:58,300 --> 01:59:59,500
that something was wrong
with this girl.
3025
01:59:59,566 --> 02:00:05,033
And I landed myself into the
middle of a huge,
3026
02:00:05,533 --> 02:00:09,899
gamergate-like war
3027
02:00:10,166 --> 02:00:12,699
that was being covered extensively
by Breitbart.
3028
02:00:12,766 --> 02:00:14,000
I'm really just always in the
3029
02:00:14,066 --> 02:00:15,166
wrong place at the
wrong time.
3030
02:00:15,766 --> 02:00:16,833
And so suddenly the next
thing I know,
3031
02:00:16,899 --> 02:00:17,899
Washington Post is
calling me.
3032
02:00:17,966 --> 02:00:19,066
I'm not known at this time.
3033
02:00:19,199 --> 02:00:21,033
They're calling me and
they're asking,
3034
02:00:21,100 --> 02:00:22,100
and I'm thinking these
are my friends.
3035
02:00:22,166 --> 02:00:24,100
Like I went to school,
Washington Post,
3036
02:00:24,500 --> 02:00:26,433
that is the top of the
line journalism.
3037
02:00:26,500 --> 02:00:27,866
I learned this in school.
3038
02:00:28,199 --> 02:00:29,966
Like what, I'm so flattered
to be able
3039
02:00:30,033 --> 02:00:31,133
to give this interview.
3040
02:00:31,266 --> 02:00:34,166
And I spoke to this girl, Caitlin
Dewey was her name.
3041
02:00:34,233 --> 02:00:34,899
I'll never forget that.
3042
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:37,633
And she was so nice on the
phone and I said to her,
3043
02:00:37,699 --> 02:00:38,899
"Yeah," and I explained to
her what happened.
3044
02:00:38,966 --> 02:00:39,933
I'm like, "I really don't
think that girl's
3045
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,533
"Obi Quinn is telling the
truth because, you know,
3046
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:45,699
"she was a victim and said
that she was harassed on
3047
02:00:45,933 --> 02:00:48,566
"by gamers and so she kind of
built a whole 501(c)(3)
3048
02:00:48,633 --> 02:00:49,766
"platform based off of that."
3049
02:00:50,233 --> 02:00:52,233
And I guess the gamergate
conspiracy was that
3050
02:00:52,300 --> 02:00:54,300
she was actually leading
an army of trolls.
3051
02:00:54,866 --> 02:00:57,000
And that was just my experience
with her in four seconds.
3052
02:00:57,066 --> 02:00:59,300
You know, I had no idea like
what was going on
3053
02:00:59,366 --> 02:01:00,066
or what the back show
was just like,
3054
02:01:00,133 --> 02:01:02,866
"That girl is led trolls
against me
3055
02:01:02,933 --> 02:01:03,833
"and that girl wasn't
a victim."
3056
02:01:03,899 --> 02:01:05,966
And boy, was that a
big statement.
3057
02:01:06,533 --> 02:01:09,199
Anyway, the Washington Post,
after they interviewed me,
3058
02:01:09,366 --> 02:01:12,266
Caitlin Dewey, also New York
Magazine, I believe it was,
3059
02:01:12,333 --> 02:01:15,333
or the New Yorker, Jesse
Signal, or Single,
3060
02:01:15,433 --> 02:01:20,066
was his name, Signal, they
lied and like smeared me.
3061
02:01:20,133 --> 02:01:21,800
After I thought these guys
were my friends
3062
02:01:21,866 --> 02:01:23,399
and like I told them
the truth
3063
02:01:23,466 --> 02:01:26,000
and they were like protecting
this girl, Zoe Quinn,
3064
02:01:26,066 --> 02:01:27,066
it was so weird.
3065
02:01:27,533 --> 02:01:31,100
And this was the entire thrust
of the gamergate conspiracy
3066
02:01:31,166 --> 02:01:33,766
was that this girl was being
artificially protected,
3067
02:01:33,833 --> 02:01:36,533
that she was actually leading
an army of trolls
3068
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:40,399
and pretending that we needed
to do something about men
3069
02:01:40,466 --> 02:01:42,033
and gamers on the internet.
3070
02:01:42,399 --> 02:01:43,766
This is kind of like
the preamble
3071
02:01:43,833 --> 02:01:45,233
to the Hillary Clinton
campaign,
3072
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:47,899
which became very much like
we kind of got into this
3073
02:01:47,966 --> 02:01:51,233
anti-mash-glinity, men
are toxic.
3074
02:01:51,300 --> 02:01:52,733
It was kind of the preamble
to that.
3075
02:01:53,033 --> 02:01:54,733
And I think she had
a real fear
3076
02:01:55,033 --> 02:01:57,066
that if I had created
this technology,
3077
02:01:57,133 --> 02:01:59,066
which could unmask trolls,
3078
02:01:59,633 --> 02:02:02,766
that it was gonna expose that
she, everything,
3079
02:02:02,833 --> 02:02:05,266
the gamer conspiracy theorists
were saying was true.
3080
02:02:05,633 --> 02:02:06,833
That was my read on
the situation.
3081
02:02:06,899 --> 02:02:09,133
And so she was being protected
and I never really,
3082
02:02:09,533 --> 02:02:11,133
I mean, I'm just not a gamer,
I just didn't know,
3083
02:02:11,633 --> 02:02:13,333
the only people that actually
gave me a fair shake
3084
02:02:13,399 --> 02:02:15,733
in the media who I spoke
to was Breitbart,
3085
02:02:16,199 --> 02:02:18,000
which was crazy because I
thought they were like
3086
02:02:18,100 --> 02:02:21,766
the white supremacist,
my Connecticut,
3087
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:26,966
Democratic surroundings, blue
liberal-ish mind.
3088
02:02:27,500 --> 02:02:30,399
I was really reticent to
speak to them.
3089
02:02:30,633 --> 02:02:33,766
And then they wrote the truth
about what I had said.
3090
02:02:33,833 --> 02:02:36,666
So I was kind of like, what
the heck is going on?
3091
02:02:36,733 --> 02:02:39,100
Why is up, down and down up?
3092
02:02:40,166 --> 02:02:43,100
And at this time, at the same
time, Trump was running.
3093
02:02:43,166 --> 02:02:46,766
And so I was kind of questioning
my allegiance
3094
02:02:46,833 --> 02:02:48,266
to leftist media,
so to speak,
3095
02:02:48,566 --> 02:02:49,633
because of how I was treated.
3096
02:02:49,699 --> 02:02:50,699
And I didn't really
comprehend
3097
02:02:50,766 --> 02:02:52,866
when I just told them the truth
about this random chick.
3098
02:02:53,833 --> 02:02:58,500
And Trump, they were saying
was like a racist,
3099
02:02:58,566 --> 02:02:59,899
white supremacist, all
of this stuff.
3100
02:02:59,966 --> 02:03:02,866
And I was willing to at least
listen to the other side
3101
02:03:03,133 --> 02:03:05,899
because I now did not trust
the Washington Post.
3102
02:03:05,966 --> 02:03:08,633
So I decided to just listen
to like a Trump speech
3103
02:03:09,066 --> 02:03:12,266
without having it filtered
for me by CNN or MSNBC.
3104
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:14,733
And I heard his like pitch
to black America
3105
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:17,300
and he was in Dimmondale,
Michigan at the time.
3106
02:03:17,866 --> 02:03:20,699
And he said, black America,
3107
02:03:20,766 --> 02:03:22,399
and he sort of listed
all of the ways
3108
02:03:22,466 --> 02:03:24,633
in which black Americans
are struggling,
3109
02:03:24,699 --> 02:03:27,399
like the statistics, just
the raw statistics.
3110
02:03:27,866 --> 02:03:30,000
And he said, why don't you
just take a chance on me?
3111
02:03:30,066 --> 02:03:30,800
What do you have to lose?
3112
02:03:31,366 --> 02:03:32,199
Just do something different.
3113
02:03:32,699 --> 02:03:34,766
You vote Democrat every
four years.
3114
02:03:34,833 --> 02:03:38,033
And I was like, fair elevator
pitch, I like it, whatever.
3115
02:03:38,466 --> 02:03:41,066
Still not gonna get my vote,
but like, whatever.
3116
02:03:41,933 --> 02:03:45,933
And then I pivoted to my trusted
sources over at CNN
3117
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:47,633
and like Don Lemon was
like crying over.
3118
02:03:47,699 --> 02:03:50,399
And it was like, he looked
black America in the face
3119
02:03:50,466 --> 02:03:53,133
and he said, you are poor,
you are pathetic,
3120
02:03:53,199 --> 02:03:54,233
you can't do this.
3121
02:03:54,300 --> 02:03:57,833
And I was like, that didn't
happen at all.
3122
02:03:57,899 --> 02:03:58,800
That's not what he said.
3123
02:03:58,866 --> 02:04:01,433
He gave a kind of reasonable
pitch.
3124
02:04:01,500 --> 02:04:02,399
You've been doing the
same thing,
3125
02:04:02,466 --> 02:04:03,266
why don't you try something
different?
3126
02:04:04,033 --> 02:04:07,666
And so that began
a huge, man,
3127
02:04:07,733 --> 02:04:08,866
could I have had this
thing wrong?
3128
02:04:08,933 --> 02:04:11,533
Like are Republicans not all
racist and backwards?
3129
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,166
Like, is there something
I'm missing here?
3130
02:04:14,566 --> 02:04:17,666
And me just sort of being the
naturally curious person
3131
02:04:17,733 --> 02:04:20,000
that I am who wants
to learn more,
3132
02:04:20,066 --> 02:04:23,600
I kind of privately began
that pursuit
3133
02:04:23,666 --> 02:04:27,066
and it led me to Thomas Sowell
and his work and his books
3134
02:04:27,133 --> 02:04:28,133
and it changed my life.
3135
02:04:28,199 --> 02:04:30,899
I really love Thomas Sowell.
3136
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:32,600
I feel like he's like
my private tutor
3137
02:04:32,666 --> 02:04:33,266
who I've never met.
3138
02:04:34,399 --> 02:04:34,533
(laughs)
3139
02:04:34,766 --> 02:04:35,266
Right on.
3140
02:04:35,833 --> 02:04:37,800
Do you still consider yourself
to be a conservative?
3141
02:04:38,766 --> 02:04:39,966
I'm always gonna be a
conservative.
3142
02:04:40,033 --> 02:04:41,566
I actually realized I always
was a conservative.
3143
02:04:41,633 --> 02:04:42,466
I was raised with my
grandfather.
3144
02:04:42,533 --> 02:04:43,433
He was conservative.
3145
02:04:43,833 --> 02:04:45,466
A Republican, different.
3146
02:04:45,533 --> 02:04:47,466
I guess there is a difference
now, huh?
3147
02:04:47,933 --> 02:04:48,866
And I guess there always
has been
3148
02:04:48,933 --> 02:04:50,533
because like I was liberal,
but I wasn't a Democrat.
3149
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:53,133
I didn't vote Democrat or I
thought I was liberal,
3150
02:04:53,199 --> 02:04:54,899
but actually I was raised
conservatively
3151
02:04:54,966 --> 02:04:56,766
and my values were always
conservative
3152
02:04:56,833 --> 02:04:57,866
and I am a conservative.
3153
02:04:57,933 --> 02:05:00,766
I think it works.
3154
02:05:00,966 --> 02:05:03,333
I think family works and
that's the most,
3155
02:05:03,399 --> 02:05:04,766
what are we conserving at
the end of the day
3156
02:05:04,833 --> 02:05:07,733
is the question and to me it's
traditional families.
3157
02:05:07,933 --> 02:05:10,333
I think that's our best guard
against the government.
3158
02:05:10,866 --> 02:05:11,699
I think so too.
3159
02:05:12,966 --> 02:05:14,500
Honestly, I think that's
almost the only,
3160
02:05:14,766 --> 02:05:20,166
might be the only thing that
we can really,
3161
02:05:23,533 --> 02:05:23,933
I don't know.
3162
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:25,833
You had said something
earlier about,
3163
02:05:26,199 --> 02:05:27,633
we were talking about
do you feel like
3164
02:05:27,699 --> 02:05:30,166
it's your responsibility
to do what you do
3165
02:05:30,699 --> 02:05:33,666
and then you'd said you
really trust your gut
3166
02:05:33,733 --> 02:05:34,800
when you're hiring people.
3167
02:05:37,866 --> 02:05:38,566
I don't know, man.
3168
02:05:38,633 --> 02:05:41,800
I trust my gut, but maybe I
don't fucking trust my gut
3169
02:05:41,866 --> 02:05:45,100
because the lead up to this
3170
02:05:45,166 --> 02:05:47,633
last election was just
all lies.
3171
02:05:49,199 --> 02:05:51,533
Something happened to
Trump, right?
3172
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:54,233
But something happened
to all of them.
3173
02:05:54,733 --> 02:05:55,866
Yeah, well.
3174
02:05:56,633 --> 02:05:57,699
Every single one of them.
3175
02:05:57,833 --> 02:05:59,166
Who, who else?
3176
02:05:59,233 --> 02:05:59,766
Joe Kent.
3177
02:06:01,633 --> 02:06:04,866
I wasn't, I mean, what did you
expect from Marco Rubio?
3178
02:06:05,433 --> 02:06:07,633
Absolutely nothing, exactly
what we see.
3179
02:06:07,699 --> 02:06:08,500
Exactly.
3180
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:14,533
I, the person that I think I
placed stock in was Trump
3181
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,233
and we got played.
3182
02:06:19,300 --> 02:06:20,600
I mean, there's no other
way to say it.
3183
02:06:20,666 --> 02:06:25,966
We got, it's kind of shocking
3184
02:06:26,899 --> 02:06:29,266
the ways that he lied.
3185
02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:31,666
And so you have to
then go, why?
3186
02:06:32,266 --> 02:06:34,066
This is nothing like
Trump 1.0.
3187
02:06:35,199 --> 02:06:37,033
Trump 2.0 is totally
different.
3188
02:06:37,833 --> 02:06:39,766
And the obvious answer
is I think that
3189
02:06:42,233 --> 02:06:46,533
Trump desperately, by any
means necessary,
3190
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:47,333
wanted to win again.
3191
02:06:48,500 --> 02:06:50,333
Felt the election like many
people do feel
3192
02:06:50,399 --> 02:06:51,466
was a storm for him in 2020.
3193
02:06:52,033 --> 02:06:53,733
COVID changing the
way we vote.
3194
02:06:53,833 --> 02:06:55,066
I totally agree with that,
by the way.
3195
02:06:56,433 --> 02:06:59,866
And his entire life's mission
then transformed into
3196
02:06:59,933 --> 02:07:01,633
I will do anything
to win again,
3197
02:07:01,933 --> 02:07:04,100
including making a deal
with the devil
3198
02:07:05,233 --> 02:07:05,866
and selling my soul.
3199
02:07:06,966 --> 02:07:07,966
That's what you think
happened.
3200
02:07:08,033 --> 02:07:10,699
And he took 300 million from
Miriam Adelson,
3201
02:07:10,766 --> 02:07:13,366
something that he once mocked
Marco Rubio from doing.
3202
02:07:13,666 --> 02:07:17,100
He tweeted once about Sheldon
Adelson owning Marco Rubio.
3203
02:07:17,766 --> 02:07:19,533
And you don't take
300 million
3204
02:07:19,699 --> 02:07:22,500
from people who run
the Vegas.
3205
02:07:22,833 --> 02:07:24,066
A very generous woman.
3206
02:07:25,366 --> 02:07:28,699
You don't take 300 million
from people who run Vegas
3207
02:07:29,300 --> 02:07:30,766
and tell them no about
anything.
3208
02:07:32,699 --> 02:07:33,433
That's how it works.
3209
02:07:33,933 --> 02:07:35,433
You could talk about that
in the micro level.
3210
02:07:35,500 --> 02:07:38,166
You know this stuff growing
up, basic survival skills,
3211
02:07:38,233 --> 02:07:41,066
like when people, you don't
borrow money from people
3212
02:07:41,566 --> 02:07:42,866
unless you know who they are.
3213
02:07:43,300 --> 02:07:47,466
And that can apply to gangs.
3214
02:07:49,466 --> 02:07:50,566
It's time to pay up.
3215
02:07:50,866 --> 02:07:53,566
And so Trump is not
his own man.
3216
02:07:54,133 --> 02:07:54,866
Plain and simple.
3217
02:07:56,500 --> 02:07:57,966
Trump is not running this
administration.
3218
02:07:58,633 --> 02:07:59,566
It wasn't a gift.
3219
02:08:00,733 --> 02:08:02,633
It wasn't, hey, I really love
what you're doing.
3220
02:08:03,166 --> 02:08:04,633
Here's $300 million.
3221
02:08:05,699 --> 02:08:10,166
It came with contingencies,
demands,
3222
02:08:10,233 --> 02:08:13,333
one of it being that they wanted
to annex the West Bank,
3223
02:08:14,300 --> 02:08:16,866
which was something that was
told to me by Charlie
3224
02:08:16,933 --> 02:08:19,633
and Andrew Colvette who were
present for that meeting
3225
02:08:19,833 --> 02:08:22,000
between Miriam Adelson
and Donald Trump
3226
02:08:22,066 --> 02:08:23,699
that she said that, I'll
cut you this check.
3227
02:08:24,333 --> 02:08:26,933
But when we want to annex
the West Bank,
3228
02:08:29,199 --> 02:08:30,600
that's what they wanted
in exchange.
3229
02:08:30,666 --> 02:08:34,666
So now I think he probably has
a little bit of regret
3230
02:08:35,500 --> 02:08:36,166
taking the money.
3231
02:08:36,966 --> 02:08:37,666
You think so?
3232
02:08:37,966 --> 02:08:38,566
I think so.
3233
02:08:38,933 --> 02:08:40,833
I don't think he likes not
being his own man.
3234
02:08:40,899 --> 02:08:42,899
I think that's what a lot of
the lashing out is about.
3235
02:08:42,966 --> 02:08:45,466
I think Trump at his core
wants to be liked.
3236
02:08:45,533 --> 02:08:47,100
And I think he knows he's
not liked right now.
3237
02:08:47,766 --> 02:08:49,100
You think he'll ever
be liked again?
3238
02:08:49,166 --> 02:08:49,399
No.
3239
02:08:49,933 --> 02:08:50,399
Me neither.
3240
02:08:52,166 --> 02:08:53,399
How much wealth has
he amassed
3241
02:08:53,466 --> 02:08:55,100
since he took this
presidency?
3242
02:08:55,233 --> 02:08:56,933
The better question is how
much more do they need?
3243
02:08:58,366 --> 02:08:59,600
How much more does the Trump
family need?
3244
02:08:59,666 --> 02:09:02,133
I mean, Ivanka swimming
to Albania.
3245
02:09:02,633 --> 02:09:06,533
How much more money do
you guys need?
3246
02:09:07,666 --> 02:09:08,666
When is enough enough?
3247
02:09:09,733 --> 02:09:10,066
Never.
3248
02:09:11,066 --> 02:09:12,600
Yeah, and that's why
you feel like
3249
02:09:12,666 --> 02:09:14,199
they fully have given
themselves in
3250
02:09:14,533 --> 02:09:16,233
because none of them were
like that before.
3251
02:09:17,933 --> 02:09:18,600
You don't think so?
3252
02:09:19,399 --> 02:09:22,033
No, I think I spent a lot of
time with Don Jr.,
3253
02:09:22,899 --> 02:09:25,466
Don Trump Jr., and he was
a real person.
3254
02:09:26,699 --> 02:09:30,000
And he was certainly a very
close friend of Charlie's.
3255
02:09:30,699 --> 02:09:33,466
He shocked me the most after
the assassination
3256
02:09:33,966 --> 02:09:34,633
because I knew Don.
3257
02:09:35,300 --> 02:09:39,033
And I challenged right away,
I challenged him.
3258
02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:41,000
I said, "If Don Jr.,
who hunts,
3259
02:09:41,100 --> 02:09:42,899
that's the guy, he knows
the wilderness.
3260
02:09:43,533 --> 02:09:45,133
If Don Jr. comes out
and says,
3261
02:09:45,533 --> 02:09:48,333
he believes that Charlie's next
after the 36th bullet,
3262
02:09:48,433 --> 02:09:49,066
I'll back off."
3263
02:09:53,300 --> 02:09:54,633
I don't think Don Jr.
has even spoken
3264
02:09:54,699 --> 02:09:56,166
about Charlie's assassination
since.
3265
02:10:04,033 --> 02:10:07,233
I think a lot of people are
gonna go to hell
3266
02:10:07,366 --> 02:10:08,033
for an eternity.
3267
02:10:08,533 --> 02:10:09,566
I know a lot of people are
gonna go to hell
3268
02:10:09,633 --> 02:10:13,933
for an eternity, but
the level of,
3269
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:16,899
talk about the mourning
process of realizing
3270
02:10:16,966 --> 02:10:18,366
that Charlie gave so much
of his life
3271
02:10:18,433 --> 02:10:19,666
to put those people
into power,
3272
02:10:21,566 --> 02:10:24,500
contending with that level
of betrayal,
3273
02:10:25,933 --> 02:10:26,766
transformed me.
3274
02:10:28,366 --> 02:10:28,633
Yeah.
3275
02:10:28,933 --> 02:10:30,133
So to answer your question,
3276
02:10:30,433 --> 02:10:32,233
no, I don't consider myself
to be Republican.
3277
02:10:32,866 --> 02:10:34,699
Yes, I do consider myself to
be a conservative.
3278
02:10:36,733 --> 02:10:37,633
Yeah, I'm the same.
3279
02:10:39,233 --> 02:10:41,199
I don't even know what the
fuck this means.
3280
02:10:41,500 --> 02:10:43,399
I don't even know if I'll
ever vote again.
3281
02:10:43,666 --> 02:10:44,833
That's how I feel.
Probably not.
3282
02:10:45,300 --> 02:10:49,966
I just, going through this
and uncovering everything
3283
02:10:50,033 --> 02:10:54,633
that we've uncovered,
nothing's changed.
3284
02:10:57,566 --> 02:10:58,633
I don't know about you,
but for me,
3285
02:10:58,699 --> 02:11:00,500
it's a fuck ton of stress.
3286
02:11:01,966 --> 02:11:03,533
Being associated with
these people,
3287
02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:06,333
now they have my number,
they can reach me.
3288
02:11:06,533 --> 02:11:07,899
I fucking hate that shit.
3289
02:11:08,833 --> 02:11:11,699
And then what was it all for?
3290
02:11:12,466 --> 02:11:14,300
This shit that we see?
3291
02:11:14,533 --> 02:11:16,000
Do you think this needed
to happen?
3292
02:11:16,933 --> 02:11:17,933
What needed to happen?
3293
02:11:18,199 --> 02:11:19,566
This veil to be lifted.
3294
02:11:20,100 --> 02:11:21,800
Yeah, I have to believe that.
3295
02:11:22,966 --> 02:11:23,800
I have to believe it.
3296
02:11:23,866 --> 02:11:27,233
I am at my core an eternal
optimist
3297
02:11:27,300 --> 02:11:31,666
and I don't wanna give
in to despair.
3298
02:11:32,866 --> 02:11:39,100
And I have to believe that
Charlie was right,
3299
02:11:40,066 --> 02:11:41,933
that his death was going
to happen,
3300
02:11:42,733 --> 02:11:45,933
because it would be tied to
a global awakening.
3301
02:11:46,533 --> 02:11:48,433
And I've seen that, I've seen
the seeds of that.
3302
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:50,066
I've seen the sprouts
of that.
3303
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:54,500
I see the incredible audience
3304
02:11:54,566 --> 02:11:56,233
that I have amassed around
the world.
3305
02:11:56,300 --> 02:11:57,800
I mean, going to Russia
recently
3306
02:11:58,266 --> 02:12:02,800
and realizing how big the "Becoming
Brigitte" series was,
3307
02:12:02,866 --> 02:12:03,933
I had no idea.
3308
02:12:06,733 --> 02:12:09,433
There is true evil
being exposed
3309
02:12:09,500 --> 02:12:13,433
and it was easy for evil to
control the world
3310
02:12:13,500 --> 02:12:15,100
when we were dumb and stupid
3311
02:12:15,166 --> 02:12:18,633
and thought it was impossible,
right?
3312
02:12:19,066 --> 02:12:20,500
Some of these conspiracies.
3313
02:12:20,566 --> 02:12:23,000
I mean, the fact that we are
having real discussions
3314
02:12:23,066 --> 02:12:24,933
about Freemasonry, about
the occult,
3315
02:12:25,333 --> 02:12:28,899
about true demons, about what
demonic possession is
3316
02:12:28,966 --> 02:12:32,466
that you can sit here across
from Father Ripperger.
3317
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:34,300
And I read the comments
3318
02:12:34,366 --> 02:12:36,399
and that was a transformative
episode, by the way.
3319
02:12:38,033 --> 02:12:39,866
But to see all the comments
of like,
3320
02:12:39,933 --> 02:12:41,433
"I need to go to church now,"
3321
02:12:41,833 --> 02:12:44,066
this episode made me want to
go to church, not--
3322
02:12:44,300 --> 02:12:46,166
This guy's crazy, what's
he on?
3323
02:12:46,233 --> 02:12:49,266
"The Exorcist" is just a movie,
just a Hollywood movie.
3324
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:52,633
That's uplifting.
3325
02:12:53,300 --> 02:12:54,266
I think that's uplifting.
3326
02:12:54,333 --> 02:12:56,566
And it had to happen there.
3327
02:12:57,066 --> 02:13:00,333
I think we as a society needed
shock treatment.
3328
02:13:01,233 --> 02:13:06,366
And Charlie's death was shocking
in so many ways.
3329
02:13:06,733 --> 02:13:11,433
Not just the death, the administration's
reaction to it,
3330
02:13:12,633 --> 02:13:15,600
his wife, there were so
many shock points.
3331
02:13:15,666 --> 02:13:17,633
It shocked the senses
in so many ways.
3332
02:13:17,966 --> 02:13:21,899
It made us consider things that
were so beyond the realm
3333
02:13:22,699 --> 02:13:29,033
of what we, I think, could have
ever thought feasible.
3334
02:13:30,433 --> 02:13:33,133
I think his assassination had
to be live streamed.
3335
02:13:34,633 --> 02:13:35,866
And people who are evil--
What do you mean,
3336
02:13:35,933 --> 02:13:36,300
but why do you say that?
3337
02:13:37,566 --> 02:13:39,199
Some ritualistic thing or--
3338
02:13:39,366 --> 02:13:42,100
Yeah, so for two people who orchestrated
assassination,
3339
02:13:42,199 --> 02:13:43,199
it was ritualistic.
3340
02:13:43,766 --> 02:13:47,166
I think that they wanted to
be publicized in that way
3341
02:13:47,666 --> 02:13:49,833
because they thought they
were then gonna harness
3342
02:13:49,899 --> 02:13:53,399
our emotion from having seen
it to their benefit.
3343
02:13:54,433 --> 02:13:58,966
And what it did was, it certainly
did harness emotion,
3344
02:13:59,766 --> 02:14:01,066
but it was not to their
benefit.
3345
02:14:02,733 --> 02:14:04,500
The emotional reaction
that happened,
3346
02:14:05,233 --> 02:14:06,300
if they could have controlled
3347
02:14:06,366 --> 02:14:09,133
it and built a conduit
for it,
3348
02:14:09,833 --> 02:14:12,633
would have been amazing if
3349
02:14:12,699 --> 02:14:14,100
they could have just
channeled it
3350
02:14:14,166 --> 02:14:16,033
as they wanted to, literally
channeling energy,
3351
02:14:16,166 --> 02:14:17,533
a form of witchcraft, right?
3352
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,699
And they wanted to channel
that energy toward Erica,
3353
02:14:22,366 --> 02:14:28,466
who I, am I honest to
God perspective,
3354
02:14:28,533 --> 02:14:33,133
I believe she is a tried and
true psychopath, truly.
3355
02:14:34,033 --> 02:14:36,466
And I'm not saying that
to be theatrical.
3356
02:14:36,933 --> 02:14:40,366
I'm not trying to be
hyperbolic.
3357
02:14:40,433 --> 02:14:43,300
I mean, like clinical
psychopath.
3358
02:14:44,866 --> 02:14:49,566
And I think that is what
has shocked them,
3359
02:14:49,633 --> 02:14:50,699
is that they couldn't do it.
3360
02:14:53,566 --> 02:14:57,966
And so Charlie's death contributed
to an awakening,
3361
02:14:58,033 --> 02:15:02,466
and I have to keep that perspective
that, you know.
3362
02:15:03,666 --> 02:15:04,266
Keep going.
3363
02:15:04,899 --> 02:15:05,166
Yeah.
3364
02:15:06,433 --> 02:15:10,000
They didn't even look into his
own assassination attempt.
3365
02:15:10,899 --> 02:15:12,399
Trump, Butler.
3366
02:15:13,233 --> 02:15:14,199
There's a reason for that.
They fucking blocked
3367
02:15:14,266 --> 02:15:15,300
the investigation.
3368
02:15:15,500 --> 02:15:15,733
Yeah.
3369
02:15:17,366 --> 02:15:18,433
What do you think that was?
3370
02:15:19,633 --> 02:15:21,566
I covered that recently
on my show,
3371
02:15:21,633 --> 02:15:25,266
and there is a, it should
be reopened,
3372
02:15:25,600 --> 02:15:28,666
and I think it was a successful
assassination
3373
02:15:29,633 --> 02:15:31,100
of Corey Comparatory.
3374
02:15:31,899 --> 02:15:32,933
Was that the firefighter?
3375
02:15:33,566 --> 02:15:34,633
I met his daughter.
3376
02:15:34,933 --> 02:15:35,399
Did you?
3377
02:15:35,533 --> 02:15:38,833
The inauguration that I never
should have fucking went to.
3378
02:15:40,966 --> 02:15:43,933
Yeah, well, they don't
believe the story.
3379
02:15:45,500 --> 02:15:47,800
They are not satisfied, his
family is not satisfied
3380
02:15:47,866 --> 02:15:48,899
with the investigation.
3381
02:15:49,600 --> 02:15:54,100
And there was a strange set
of circumstances
3382
02:15:54,266 --> 02:16:19,566
there were potentially...
3383
02:16:19,633 --> 02:16:20,000
I might say some of my
best friends
3384
02:16:20,066 --> 02:16:24,033
were still in commenters
room,
3385
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:26,833
that basically worked, he was
a supervisor at a company
3386
02:16:27,133 --> 02:16:29,133
that dealt with Petton
explosives
3387
02:16:29,199 --> 02:16:32,399
because they perforated
the wells
3388
02:16:32,466 --> 02:16:34,266
for oil and gas companies,
3389
02:16:34,333 --> 02:16:36,033
which requires the Petton
explosive.
3390
02:16:36,833 --> 02:16:38,500
He died in a mysterious set
of circumstances
3391
02:16:38,566 --> 02:16:41,299
in his backyard where he was
burning stuff in a barrel
3392
02:16:41,366 --> 02:16:44,399
and something exploded and
ironically hit his neck
3393
02:16:45,266 --> 02:16:46,833
and he died instantly.
3394
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:51,433
And his friends didn't
believe
3395
02:16:51,500 --> 02:16:52,933
the circumstances surrounding
his death.
3396
02:16:53,433 --> 02:16:57,166
I had heard rumors of an illegal
explosives ring,
3397
02:16:57,233 --> 02:17:01,933
sort of people getting
Petton illegally.
3398
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:04,766
And Corey was this guy's friend
since high school.
3399
02:17:06,133 --> 02:17:07,799
There's a lot of questions
about,
3400
02:17:08,433 --> 02:17:11,000
you know, shortly after
Corey died,
3401
02:17:12,366 --> 02:17:15,866
Israel did their beeper Petton
explosive attack
3402
02:17:16,399 --> 02:17:18,066
within like two months, it
was very quickly.
3403
02:17:18,833 --> 02:17:19,566
That's weird.
3404
02:17:22,100 --> 02:17:24,000
All of the stuff could be
considered conspiracy,
3405
02:17:24,066 --> 02:17:28,033
but I think what adds weight
to conspiracies
3406
02:17:29,000 --> 02:17:31,766
are a lack of answers.
3407
02:17:32,666 --> 02:17:33,833
When there's a lack
of answers,
3408
02:17:33,899 --> 02:17:35,266
conspiracies become weighted.
3409
02:17:36,100 --> 02:17:38,866
And you can't tell me that
it's normal for a man
3410
02:17:38,933 --> 02:17:40,733
to survive an assassination
attempt
3411
02:17:40,799 --> 02:17:43,299
and shut down the
investigation
3412
02:17:43,366 --> 02:17:45,033
into his own assassination
attempt.
3413
02:17:45,433 --> 02:17:46,266
That doesn't make sense.
3414
02:17:47,266 --> 02:17:48,733
Trump can't make that
make sense.
3415
02:17:50,333 --> 02:17:52,000
You think he knows? Mm-hmm.
3416
02:17:53,533 --> 02:17:55,299
That's why he's blocking
the investigation.
3417
02:17:55,433 --> 02:17:57,566
Is it him blocking it or
is it the FBI?
3418
02:17:58,366 --> 02:18:00,500
Well, if Tucker is to
be believed,
3419
02:18:00,666 --> 02:18:02,200
you can decide whether you
believe Tucker
3420
02:18:02,266 --> 02:18:03,533
or whether you believe
Dan Bongino,
3421
02:18:03,799 --> 02:18:04,966
but I'm gonna go with
Tucker Carlson.
3422
02:18:05,233 --> 02:18:05,633
(laughing)
3423
02:18:07,166 --> 02:18:09,100
Yeah, I'll go with Tucker
on that.
3424
02:18:09,299 --> 02:18:10,066
I'm gonna go with Tucker
3425
02:18:10,133 --> 02:18:12,733
and Dan's reaction to what Tucker
said was very strange.
3426
02:18:12,799 --> 02:18:15,466
He was like, "I was gonna
beat up Tucker Carlson
3427
02:18:15,533 --> 02:18:15,733
or something."
3428
02:18:15,799 --> 02:18:17,100
I was like, "Tucker Carlson's
not gonna fight you.
3429
02:18:17,166 --> 02:18:17,933
What is wrong with you?"
3430
02:18:18,399 --> 02:18:19,633
But he came undone when
Tucker revealed
3431
02:18:19,700 --> 02:18:20,733
the conversation they had.
3432
02:18:20,799 --> 02:18:24,066
And Tucker seemed to be
telling the truth
3433
02:18:24,133 --> 02:18:27,200
that Dan said that Trump
blocked it personally.
3434
02:18:27,766 --> 02:18:30,299
And that's reflected even in
what Don Trump Jr. said.
3435
02:18:30,366 --> 02:18:32,766
He said, "My dad is satisfied
with the investigation.
3436
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:34,633
I'm not, and I'm gonna
leave it there."
3437
02:18:35,066 --> 02:18:37,433
So clearly the directive had
gone out from Trump
3438
02:18:37,500 --> 02:18:41,799
that no more talk about
Butler.
3439
02:18:41,866 --> 02:18:43,833
So make that make sense.
3440
02:18:45,233 --> 02:18:46,833
You survived an assassination
attempt.
3441
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:48,766
You're now number one in
charge of the country.
3442
02:18:48,833 --> 02:18:50,600
Why would you not just--
3443
02:18:50,799 --> 02:18:52,700
I have no idea why you
wouldn't wanna know
3444
02:18:52,766 --> 02:18:54,166
who's trying to fucking
kill you.
3445
02:18:54,633 --> 02:18:55,700
It just makes--
3446
02:18:55,833 --> 02:18:56,333
This is like turning me.
3447
02:18:56,433 --> 02:18:57,500
It doesn't make sense to me.
3448
02:18:57,666 --> 02:18:58,000
Yeah, they don't wanna
hear me.
3449
02:18:58,066 --> 02:18:59,166
I don't know why it
makes sense
3450
02:18:59,233 --> 02:19:00,533
to so many other fucking
people,
3451
02:19:01,033 --> 02:19:02,666
but it doesn't make
sense to me.
3452
02:19:03,100 --> 02:19:05,366
I would wanna know who's
trying to kill me.
3453
02:19:06,266 --> 02:19:06,466
Yeah.
3454
02:19:07,600 --> 02:19:09,233
So there's something we're
missing about Butler.
3455
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:16,799
And it's the exact same stage
3456
02:19:17,133 --> 02:19:20,200
so to speak, the exact
same play
3457
02:19:20,766 --> 02:19:22,066
as a Charlie Kirk
assassination
3458
02:19:22,533 --> 02:19:24,533
where everyone who should
be the most curious
3459
02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:27,899
about investigating is very
much not curious
3460
02:19:27,966 --> 02:19:31,399
about investigating, angry at people
that are investigating
3461
02:19:31,500 --> 02:19:33,866
and attacking people who
wanna get answers.
3462
02:19:34,866 --> 02:19:36,100
The public's gonna
notice that.
3463
02:19:36,166 --> 02:19:38,200
The public's gonna notice that
something's not right.
3464
02:19:38,966 --> 02:19:42,500
Like, and they're gonna begin
to suspect the people
3465
02:19:43,299 --> 02:19:44,733
who purport to be
the victims.
3466
02:19:46,600 --> 02:19:48,466
Why do you think nobody in
this administration
3467
02:19:48,533 --> 02:19:49,133
is speaking up?
3468
02:19:49,299 --> 02:19:54,266
Do you think they're all
under the same control?
3469
02:19:54,333 --> 02:19:56,066
Are they all under Trump's
control?
3470
02:19:56,899 --> 02:20:02,066
We know that Charlie represented
almost a solitary voice
3471
02:20:02,133 --> 02:20:04,733
maybe outside of JD Vance's
in terms of trying
3472
02:20:04,799 --> 02:20:08,200
to communicate to Trump that
getting involved
3473
02:20:08,266 --> 02:20:09,266
with Iran was a bad idea.
3474
02:20:10,733 --> 02:20:12,600
That administration is not
working for Donald Trump.
3475
02:20:12,666 --> 02:20:13,566
They're working for Israel.
3476
02:20:14,966 --> 02:20:16,899
Obviously, Trump is
powerless.
3477
02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:19,000
Everyone can see that.
3478
02:20:23,433 --> 02:20:24,799
It's just, it's just, I mean,
3479
02:20:27,233 --> 02:20:31,333
I had Kash Patel sitting
right across from me
3480
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:35,700
at the other studio and we
just went on and on
3481
02:20:35,766 --> 02:20:39,733
about the Epstein shit,
on and on and on
3482
02:20:41,299 --> 02:20:41,899
and then nothing.
3483
02:20:42,933 --> 02:20:44,299
I mean, where's Kash
Patel from?
3484
02:20:48,133 --> 02:20:49,066
He's from Vegas.
3485
02:20:50,033 --> 02:20:52,533
If Kash Patel has ever had
any power in his life,
3486
02:20:52,666 --> 02:20:57,366
his power came from that entire
city was built by Israel.
3487
02:20:58,333 --> 02:21:00,233
Miriam Adelson has served
the IDF.
3488
02:21:00,666 --> 02:21:02,200
Sheldon Adelson said his
biggest regret
3489
02:21:02,266 --> 02:21:03,766
was not having served
the IDF.
3490
02:21:04,100 --> 02:21:06,799
They've never been, I mean,
Trump said it on stage.
3491
02:21:07,399 --> 02:21:09,833
She's more loyal to Israel than
she is to our country.
3492
02:21:09,899 --> 02:21:11,700
I mean, it's not a secret.
3493
02:21:12,966 --> 02:21:14,433
Vegas is a dangerous place.
3494
02:21:15,133 --> 02:21:17,033
People say what happens in
Vegas stays in Vegas,
3495
02:21:17,566 --> 02:21:19,433
stays in Vegas and gets sent
over to Tel Aviv.
3496
02:21:20,533 --> 02:21:22,966
It's just a city of blackmail,
to be honest with you.
3497
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:27,566
And they're all kind
of tied there.
3498
02:21:27,633 --> 02:21:31,233
They're all kind of tied in
my view to Vegas.
3499
02:21:31,299 --> 02:21:33,566
I mean, Andrew Colvet,
he's from Reno.
3500
02:21:33,633 --> 02:21:36,299
His dad did legal work
on the casinos
3501
02:21:36,366 --> 02:21:40,366
and it's like this thing,
his brother served.
3502
02:21:40,466 --> 02:21:43,299
It was from the Reno unit
that went over
3503
02:21:43,766 --> 02:21:46,466
and were guarding the poppy
seeds in Afghanistan.
3504
02:21:46,966 --> 02:21:49,633
That was his brother, was like
Colonel Lieutenant on that.
3505
02:21:50,399 --> 02:21:52,333
That was just poppy
trafficking.
3506
02:21:52,933 --> 02:21:56,333
After that, we had the
opioid crisis.
3507
02:21:57,766 --> 02:21:59,266
And what do we think these
wars are about?
3508
02:22:00,133 --> 02:22:02,700
What did we win in
Afghanistan?
3509
02:22:03,833 --> 02:22:04,500
Poppy seeds.
3510
02:22:06,233 --> 02:22:07,133
It'll be a good crisis.
3511
02:22:13,133 --> 02:22:14,666
What do you think is gonna
happen in the midterms?
3512
02:22:15,733 --> 02:22:17,399
Actually, let me back up.
3513
02:22:18,133 --> 02:22:20,566
Now you see Trump speaking
out against Israel.
3514
02:22:20,799 --> 02:22:22,666
You see Vance, I don't
buy it either.
3515
02:22:22,966 --> 02:22:24,399
You see Trump and Vance.
3516
02:22:24,633 --> 02:22:25,700
Now all of a sudden
it's like,
3517
02:22:26,966 --> 02:22:29,433
where the fuck did this
come from?
3518
02:22:30,266 --> 02:22:32,266
It all seems very performative
to me
3519
02:22:32,433 --> 02:22:36,566
and I'm not sure why they're
moving to,
3520
02:22:37,100 --> 02:22:41,066
I guess this new act,
so to speak.
3521
02:22:41,133 --> 02:22:42,133
Because they're destroyed.
3522
02:22:42,466 --> 02:22:44,133
Yeah, maybe because
midterms are--
3523
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:45,033
They're completely destroyed.
3524
02:22:45,100 --> 02:22:46,266
Maybe because midterms are
around the corner.
3525
02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:47,700
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
3526
02:22:47,799 --> 02:22:49,299
I mean, they're fucking
destroyed.
3527
02:22:49,399 --> 02:22:51,933
So they're gonna pretend he's
like Mr. Tough Guy again
3528
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:54,333
and standing up to BB, it's
all very performative.
3529
02:22:54,399 --> 02:22:55,866
Do you think people are gonna
buy this shit?
3530
02:22:55,966 --> 02:22:56,266
No.
3531
02:22:56,333 --> 02:22:57,933
Do you think Israel's
in on the act?
3532
02:22:58,299 --> 02:22:59,266
Yes. Me too.
3533
02:22:59,799 --> 02:23:03,633
I think you should take the
Mossad at their word
3534
02:23:03,700 --> 02:23:06,200
when they say we are the
directors, the actors,
3535
02:23:06,266 --> 02:23:08,233
we can infiltrate any
organization,
3536
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:12,500
any company, or the script
writers, I believe that.
3537
02:23:12,633 --> 02:23:14,333
That's a 60 Minutes
interview, right?
3538
02:23:14,466 --> 02:23:15,200
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
3539
02:23:15,633 --> 02:23:19,666
After referring to how they
were able to infiltrate
3540
02:23:19,733 --> 02:23:25,500
and get the PETN explosive
into the beepers
3541
02:23:25,566 --> 02:23:27,666
and how they created all
these fake companies
3542
02:23:27,733 --> 02:23:28,933
with fake employees.
3543
02:23:29,000 --> 02:23:31,366
I think about when I hear
those words,
3544
02:23:32,233 --> 02:23:34,233
Charlie and his life and how
I think it became
3545
02:23:34,299 --> 02:23:38,200
an Israeli Truman Show, but
similar for Trump.
3546
02:23:39,133 --> 02:23:43,399
Everyone around him is just
working for a higher boss
3547
02:23:43,466 --> 02:23:45,533
and it's the Rothschilds
and it's Israel.
3548
02:23:47,533 --> 02:23:49,200
So all of that is
performative.
3549
02:23:49,266 --> 02:23:52,700
I mean, I couldn't be motivated
to vote for midterms.
3550
02:23:53,600 --> 02:23:54,333
Yeah, me neither.
3551
02:23:54,466 --> 02:23:56,533
Especially after what we saw
happen with Thomas Massey,
3552
02:23:57,166 --> 02:23:58,833
where they're just so in our
face about it now
3553
02:23:58,899 --> 02:23:59,866
whether we don't like you,
3554
02:23:59,933 --> 02:24:01,799
if you have a point against
Israel, we'll spend.
3555
02:24:02,166 --> 02:24:04,600
That's the only thing I can't
really put together
3556
02:24:04,666 --> 02:24:07,066
in my head is we see
this act.
3557
02:24:07,133 --> 02:24:09,533
We see all of a sudden everybody's
a tough guy
3558
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:11,700
against Israel, like,
oh, right, okay.
3559
02:24:12,733 --> 02:24:14,666
Right around the corner
from midterms.
3560
02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:19,700
But I also don't really believe
in the election system
3561
02:24:20,500 --> 02:24:22,333
because of all kinds of
shit we've seen.
3562
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:27,433
Spencer Pratt's race, probably
the most recent one,
3563
02:24:27,899 --> 02:24:29,100
Massey's race.
3564
02:24:31,066 --> 02:24:34,866
So if the elections
are phony,
3565
02:24:34,933 --> 02:24:36,733
then why do they give a shit
about the act?
3566
02:24:38,033 --> 02:24:39,366
Because the illusion matters.
3567
02:24:39,766 --> 02:24:40,566
Why does it matter?
3568
02:24:40,633 --> 02:24:44,766
Because they need, think
about if truly tomorrow
3569
02:24:45,766 --> 02:24:48,899
they came out and said, your
vote doesn't mean anything.
3570
02:24:48,966 --> 02:24:49,399
We've been running the
3571
02:24:49,466 --> 02:24:50,733
election since the beginning
of time.
3572
02:24:52,700 --> 02:24:53,933
We kill people in broad
daylight.
3573
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:54,666
Yeah, we did JFK.
3574
02:24:55,299 --> 02:24:56,233
We did Charlie in.
3575
02:24:57,166 --> 02:24:59,333
And we're gonna keep doing whatever
the hell we want.
3576
02:24:59,399 --> 02:25:00,799
So, F you.
3577
02:25:01,166 --> 02:25:02,700
You think something would
actually happen?
3578
02:25:03,033 --> 02:25:03,333
Yeah.
3579
02:25:05,066 --> 02:25:07,766
Because it's actually something
Charlie said to me
3580
02:25:07,833 --> 02:25:08,566
when we were traveling once.
3581
02:25:08,633 --> 02:25:11,833
He said one of his little
pop quizzes,
3582
02:25:12,133 --> 02:25:14,799
what is one thing that every
civilization
3583
02:25:14,866 --> 02:25:17,066
that has ever had slavery
3584
02:25:17,866 --> 02:25:19,200
since the beginning of
human history,
3585
02:25:20,066 --> 02:25:22,166
what is one thing that
every single one
3586
02:25:22,233 --> 02:25:25,200
of those civilizations
has in common?
3587
02:25:27,233 --> 02:25:27,666
I don't know.
3588
02:25:28,100 --> 02:25:28,799
I didn't know either.
3589
02:25:29,500 --> 02:25:33,000
And he said, there were always
more slaves than masters.
3590
02:25:35,366 --> 02:25:36,266
And that always stuck
with me.
3591
02:25:38,466 --> 02:25:45,799
The few are able to get all
of us to behave.
3592
02:25:46,366 --> 02:25:48,500
So what they fear is a
real revolution.
3593
02:25:48,566 --> 02:25:50,700
That's why they always
stoked the flames
3594
02:25:50,766 --> 02:25:51,633
of internal unrest.
3595
02:25:51,700 --> 02:25:53,100
Because if all of us were
in lockstep
3596
02:25:53,166 --> 02:25:55,133
and we were like, let's go
kill these pedophiles.
3597
02:25:56,233 --> 02:25:57,733
Let's go take care
of business.
3598
02:25:58,200 --> 02:25:59,666
That's the biggest threat
to the system.
3599
02:26:00,333 --> 02:26:01,733
A revolution that they
don't control.
3600
02:26:01,799 --> 02:26:04,233
So instead they create revolutions
over stupidity.
3601
02:26:05,166 --> 02:26:06,733
Trans bathroom rights.
3602
02:26:07,066 --> 02:26:08,766
Keep them focused and arguing
about stuff
3603
02:26:08,833 --> 02:26:09,766
that doesn't matter at all.
3604
02:26:10,166 --> 02:26:12,133
BLM, racial strife.
3605
02:26:13,233 --> 02:26:15,100
Why isn't there a George
Floyd square?
3606
02:26:16,766 --> 02:26:20,700
This is fodder for idiots.
3607
02:26:22,633 --> 02:26:25,333
While they buy islands,
they take up land,
3608
02:26:25,700 --> 02:26:29,233
they destroy heritage, they
rewrite history.
3609
02:26:30,033 --> 02:26:32,933
20 years from now they'll
say, you already heard,
3610
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:36,000
I think Jerry Seinfeld say
Palestine doesn't exist.
3611
02:26:37,233 --> 02:26:38,133
He's a man of the future.
3612
02:26:40,366 --> 02:26:41,166
They'll rewrite history.
3613
02:26:41,233 --> 02:26:42,433
They'll say they were
the victims.
3614
02:26:42,500 --> 02:26:45,066
It all started on
October 7th.
3615
02:26:45,133 --> 02:26:48,733
And they'll wipe away entire
identities.
3616
02:26:48,799 --> 02:26:50,666
I mean, good for the people
in Albania,
3617
02:26:50,733 --> 02:26:53,633
who are standing up to the Israeli
settlers right now.
3618
02:26:53,866 --> 02:26:56,333
Don't know what their plan is
there, something's going on.
3619
02:26:57,100 --> 02:26:59,933
And that's their biggest
threat.
3620
02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:02,299
So they have to get
you to believe
3621
02:27:02,366 --> 02:27:04,666
in the illusion of elections,
3622
02:27:05,366 --> 02:27:08,033
because you have to think
you can change it
3623
02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:09,399
and that your voice matters.
3624
02:27:12,233 --> 02:27:15,399
Who do you think is gonna be
the next president?
3625
02:27:15,899 --> 02:27:20,166
I mean, Pauli Barker right now
puts Vance at the top.
3626
02:27:21,100 --> 02:27:24,933
And then two points below is Rubio
and Gavin Newsom tied.
3627
02:27:25,433 --> 02:27:26,666
Rubio, what?
3628
02:27:27,500 --> 02:27:28,466
Absolutely not.
3629
02:27:29,000 --> 02:27:30,766
I mean, maybe with APAC money,
I think it happened.
3630
02:27:30,833 --> 02:27:31,466
The Ostrom's Golden Boy.
3631
02:27:31,700 --> 02:27:34,366
Yeah, maybe with APAC money,
anything can happen.
3632
02:27:36,833 --> 02:27:39,100
I'm not into political
prognostications.
3633
02:27:39,366 --> 02:27:40,799
I wouldn't put any of
those people.
3634
02:27:41,700 --> 02:27:43,299
If we had a fair system,
3635
02:27:44,700 --> 02:27:47,600
I wouldn't put any of those
people in the bucket
3636
02:27:48,033 --> 02:27:49,333
for who would be the
next president.
3637
02:27:50,366 --> 02:27:52,833
I mean, if we're talking about
on the Democratic side,
3638
02:27:53,266 --> 02:27:54,700
yeah, I think they're gonna
run Gavin Newsom.
3639
02:27:54,766 --> 02:27:55,733
That's probably accurate.
3640
02:27:56,833 --> 02:27:57,833
But on the Republican side,
3641
02:27:57,899 --> 02:28:02,233
there is an apathy that's
setting in.
3642
02:28:03,799 --> 02:28:07,066
And I don't see how Vance gets
around everything Trump did.
3643
02:28:07,133 --> 02:28:10,733
I don't see how Vance gets around
what happened in Iran.
3644
02:28:10,799 --> 02:28:12,733
I don't see how Vance is able
to talk his way out of that.
3645
02:28:13,333 --> 02:28:14,466
Oh, welcome to tell you how.
3646
02:28:17,166 --> 02:28:19,200
All these Catholics
are really
3647
02:28:19,266 --> 02:28:21,133
leaning into being
Catholic now
3648
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:22,466
because it's the fastest
growing
3649
02:28:22,533 --> 02:28:24,166
Christian denomination
in the world.
3650
02:28:26,500 --> 02:28:27,700
So they're leaning into that.
3651
02:28:29,299 --> 02:28:30,533
I don't think that's gonna
be enough.
3652
02:28:30,666 --> 02:28:31,666
You don't think so?
3653
02:28:32,033 --> 02:28:33,466
They're leaning into
it pretty hard.
3654
02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:34,866
Have you seen it?
3655
02:28:35,399 --> 02:28:38,066
I think he missed an
opportunity
3656
02:28:40,200 --> 02:28:42,066
to stand up to Trump on some
of those points
3657
02:28:43,133 --> 02:28:45,899
and his unnecessary tweet
against the Pope.
3658
02:28:46,766 --> 02:28:49,600
I don't think that, Catholics
are tough.
3659
02:28:50,700 --> 02:28:51,366
I know, I'm just saying.
3660
02:28:51,433 --> 02:28:54,600
One group that have not been
socially engineered.
3661
02:28:55,166 --> 02:28:55,766
I'm watching.
3662
02:28:55,833 --> 02:28:56,266
Yeah.
3663
02:28:56,866 --> 02:28:57,966
And they're trying,
3664
02:28:58,299 --> 02:29:00,233
they're really trying
to tap into it.
3665
02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:01,966
I don't think it's
gonna work.
3666
02:29:02,033 --> 02:29:04,633
I think people are so much
more awake too.
3667
02:29:04,766 --> 02:29:10,700
And especially the, and I'm
gonna call this,
3668
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:12,633
and I don't mean to attack
Vance on this,
3669
02:29:12,700 --> 02:29:14,000
but just more broadly
speaking,
3670
02:29:14,066 --> 02:29:16,733
the faith grift post-Charlie,
3671
02:29:17,633 --> 02:29:18,766
people have their
antennas up.
3672
02:29:19,799 --> 02:29:22,433
Because that's been the entire
turning point thing.
3673
02:29:23,299 --> 02:29:24,733
And it's felt, it has not
3674
02:29:24,799 --> 02:29:26,266
registered, it's felt
inauthentic.
3675
02:29:26,899 --> 02:29:29,299
And sure that was like a part
of the evangelical world,
3676
02:29:29,366 --> 02:29:32,133
but there have been a
lot of, I think,
3677
02:29:32,200 --> 02:29:34,666
missed opportunities for
Vance to not write
3678
02:29:34,733 --> 02:29:36,466
about being a Catholic or
say he's a Catholic,
3679
02:29:36,533 --> 02:29:40,000
but to stand up to the stuff
that's happening
3680
02:29:40,066 --> 02:29:42,633
in the administration that's
just downright ungodly.
3681
02:29:44,033 --> 02:29:48,100
You know, you bomb a school with
150 school girls in it,
3682
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:50,966
and then they lie about it.
3683
02:29:53,233 --> 02:29:54,533
And then it's sort of
like whatever,
3684
02:29:54,733 --> 02:29:56,033
I don't know, maybe you
wanted us to do it.
3685
02:29:56,833 --> 02:29:59,899
It's, I think it's gonna be hard
for him to get around it.
3686
02:30:00,133 --> 02:30:05,399
So I, but anything can
happen in a world
3687
02:30:05,466 --> 02:30:06,700
where elections are
fake and gay.
3688
02:30:09,466 --> 02:30:10,200
Anything can happen.
3689
02:30:10,266 --> 02:30:11,399
Marco Rubio could be the next
3690
02:30:11,466 --> 02:30:12,466
president of the United
States.
3691
02:30:13,799 --> 02:30:14,866
Someone they can control.
3692
02:30:17,633 --> 02:30:18,833
I hope Massey runs.
3693
02:30:19,866 --> 02:30:21,333
I hope Joe Kent runs.
3694
02:30:21,766 --> 02:30:22,299
He's great.
3695
02:30:22,633 --> 02:30:24,166
I really like Joe Kent.
3696
02:30:24,233 --> 02:30:25,766
Yeah, he is fantastic.
3697
02:30:25,833 --> 02:30:26,899
I'd like to see him
run as well.
3698
02:30:26,966 --> 02:30:30,200
And I think he, the way
that he resigned
3699
02:30:30,399 --> 02:30:36,066
and wrote about his conscience
and also the nastiness
3700
02:30:36,133 --> 02:30:38,500
that Trump threw at him about
his wife, I couldn't,
3701
02:30:38,566 --> 02:30:40,600
I mean, I was just absolutely
shocked.
3702
02:30:40,666 --> 02:30:41,933
Nothing makes my skin
crawl more
3703
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:43,200
than a fucking piece of shit
3704
02:30:43,266 --> 02:30:44,733
that never served the
fucking country.
3705
02:30:44,799 --> 02:30:46,700
Talking shit about a guy who
served the country,
3706
02:30:46,766 --> 02:30:50,700
whose wife was fucking assassinated
by Al Qaeda
3707
02:30:51,166 --> 02:30:54,000
with one of my really good fucking
friends, Scottie Wertz.
3708
02:30:54,066 --> 02:30:54,700
I'm glad he did it.
3709
02:30:55,633 --> 02:30:56,266
I'm glad he did it.
3710
02:30:56,500 --> 02:30:58,733
Because I think servicemen and
women needed to see that.
3711
02:30:59,433 --> 02:31:01,733
Because that is the perspective
that Israel holds
3712
02:31:02,133 --> 02:31:02,933
of the men that serve.
3713
02:31:04,333 --> 02:31:05,233
I believe that.
3714
02:31:05,299 --> 02:31:07,866
I believe that it is, you
are toy soldiers.
3715
02:31:08,966 --> 02:31:09,466
We're slaves.
3716
02:31:09,733 --> 02:31:10,600
Yeah, we're slaves.
3717
02:31:10,666 --> 02:31:11,133
We're slaves.
3718
02:31:11,399 --> 02:31:11,600
Yeah.
3719
02:31:11,666 --> 02:31:12,333
We're all slaves.
3720
02:31:13,533 --> 02:31:14,733
I've had a real awakening
about that.
3721
02:31:14,799 --> 02:31:18,600
We have to be tax mules sending
our money to Israel.
3722
02:31:18,666 --> 02:31:20,299
And our sons and daughters
to die for them.
3723
02:31:20,733 --> 02:31:21,766
And people should not serve.
3724
02:31:21,966 --> 02:31:22,799
I've been strong on that.
3725
02:31:22,866 --> 02:31:24,633
It's like, our country's
occupied.
3726
02:31:25,366 --> 02:31:26,433
You are not signing
up to serve
3727
02:31:26,566 --> 02:31:27,533
for the United States
military.
3728
02:31:27,766 --> 02:31:29,299
Your streets are not gonna
become more paved.
3729
02:31:29,366 --> 02:31:30,766
Your streets are not gonna
become safer.
3730
02:31:32,100 --> 02:31:33,533
Your schools are not gonna
become better.
3731
02:31:33,833 --> 02:31:34,433
There's will.
3732
02:31:35,133 --> 02:31:38,033
So if that is a draw for you,
3733
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:41,266
then sign up and serve the
United States of Israel.
3734
02:31:41,799 --> 02:31:44,633
But this is where we can
make a difference.
3735
02:31:44,933 --> 02:31:46,933
We need bodies in Iran. I just
had a really good friend
3736
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:49,233
get deployed, a Green Beret.
3737
02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:51,600
I won't even say what
group he's at.
3738
02:31:52,233 --> 02:31:59,066
And he jokingly, but you can
see it in his fucking eyes.
3739
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:01,966
Says, "I'm getting deployed
early.
3740
02:32:02,033 --> 02:32:03,266
I gotta go fight for Israel."
3741
02:32:04,266 --> 02:32:07,100
And you could just,
he wants out.
3742
02:32:07,333 --> 02:32:08,266
He's talking about a fuck.
3743
02:32:08,533 --> 02:32:08,899
Leave.
3744
02:32:09,866 --> 02:32:10,466
That's simple.
3745
02:32:12,166 --> 02:32:14,533
There's a legal means to
leave the military.
3746
02:32:14,600 --> 02:32:17,266
And I encourage on my show, every
man and woman to do it.
3747
02:32:17,866 --> 02:32:18,966
Because at the end
of the day,
3748
02:32:19,100 --> 02:32:20,866
the best laid plans don't
work without bodies.
3749
02:32:20,933 --> 02:32:22,366
And I think they learned that
lesson in Iran.
3750
02:32:23,233 --> 02:32:24,799
They couldn't get people
to get behind it.
3751
02:32:24,866 --> 02:32:26,466
That's why they need the
propaganda machine.
3752
02:32:26,533 --> 02:32:28,799
They needed people to be behind
it and they weren't.
3753
02:32:29,466 --> 02:32:32,666
And that terrifies
them truly.
3754
02:32:33,366 --> 02:32:37,299
The idea of Americans not signing
up for the military,
3755
02:32:38,033 --> 02:32:39,000
that's an existential threat.
3756
02:32:39,066 --> 02:32:40,366
I could see it in Pete
Hegseth's eyes.
3757
02:32:40,433 --> 02:32:42,299
As he's like, "We're gonna
raise the age.
3758
02:32:42,666 --> 02:32:43,866
People will join the
military.
3759
02:32:44,066 --> 02:32:44,666
I bet you are.
3760
02:32:44,733 --> 02:32:45,466
What does that tell me?
3761
02:32:45,666 --> 02:32:46,299
Numbers are low.
3762
02:32:47,533 --> 02:32:48,399
People are waking up.
3763
02:32:49,700 --> 02:32:53,833
So if you wanna go be big, bad
and take over Palestine
3764
02:32:53,899 --> 02:32:55,799
and do it with your sons
and daughters.
3765
02:32:56,833 --> 02:33:01,566
I mean, for a Green Beret to
not want to go to war,
3766
02:33:01,633 --> 02:33:06,533
one of the fucking highest
trained units
3767
02:33:07,833 --> 02:33:11,466
in the fucking United States,
like legit war fighters,
3768
02:33:11,799 --> 02:33:12,899
doesn't wanna go to war.
3769
02:33:12,966 --> 02:33:15,200
Cause he knows it's
not for us.
3770
02:33:15,700 --> 02:33:16,766
And he's not the only one.
3771
02:33:17,133 --> 02:33:17,766
It's all of them.
3772
02:33:18,333 --> 02:33:20,399
It's fucking all of them.
3773
02:33:20,666 --> 02:33:22,633
And when you get back, you
could be so lucky
3774
02:33:23,033 --> 02:33:24,899
as to have given your
entire body
3775
02:33:24,966 --> 02:33:26,600
to have lifelong ailments,
3776
02:33:26,666 --> 02:33:28,333
to not be able to get appointments
at the VA.
3777
02:33:28,566 --> 02:33:31,866
And if you're really lucky,
I mean really lucky,
3778
02:33:32,500 --> 02:33:35,700
the president can tweet
mocking the fact
3779
02:33:36,266 --> 02:33:39,700
that your wife died and
you got remarried
3780
02:33:40,033 --> 02:33:40,899
serving the country.
3781
02:33:41,166 --> 02:33:41,433
Yep.
3782
02:33:43,966 --> 02:33:44,833
Who doesn't wanna sign up?
3783
02:33:45,766 --> 02:33:46,366
Sign up today.
3784
02:33:47,700 --> 02:33:49,799
Well, I mean, now there's all
this talk about the draft.
3785
02:33:50,633 --> 02:33:51,033
Why?
3786
02:33:51,433 --> 02:33:52,700
Because it's not there,
but guess what?
3787
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:55,899
You better off spending
a year in jail
3788
02:33:56,899 --> 02:33:58,433
than going to fight
for Israel.
3789
02:33:58,666 --> 02:34:00,266
So it's like, how far are
they going to take it?
3790
02:34:00,333 --> 02:34:01,299
So they're gonna be
like Ukraine,
3791
02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:04,500
dragging people off the
street, like thugs.
3792
02:34:05,233 --> 02:34:05,799
Probably.
3793
02:34:05,866 --> 02:34:07,333
That's the threat that
they need.
3794
02:34:07,500 --> 02:34:09,600
You can't, okay, you guys
want it, Zaines,
3795
02:34:09,666 --> 02:34:10,933
you're so big and bad
and powerful,
3796
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:11,933
send your sons and daughters.
3797
02:34:12,200 --> 02:34:13,833
Your sons and daughters
first.
3798
02:34:14,933 --> 02:34:16,666
I will not let my boys
won't serve.
3799
02:34:17,666 --> 02:34:19,233
Not in this environment.
3800
02:34:19,299 --> 02:34:22,600
It's an honor to serve
the country
3801
02:34:22,666 --> 02:34:23,233
that we live in right now,
3802
02:34:23,299 --> 02:34:24,933
the occupied country that we
live in right now.
3803
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:27,299
Yeah, that's how I feel.
3804
02:34:28,533 --> 02:34:29,866
Call me if we're getting
invaded.
3805
02:34:31,166 --> 02:34:32,500
I'm done going overseas.
3806
02:34:32,766 --> 02:34:35,100
Best thing to do is to defend
your neighborhoods,
3807
02:34:35,700 --> 02:34:38,966
defend your families, build
smaller communities.
3808
02:34:40,200 --> 02:34:41,266
That's what I encourage
people to do.
3809
02:34:41,333 --> 02:34:43,399
I'm gonna learn to farm.
3810
02:34:44,833 --> 02:34:46,533
That's the real difference
you can make.
3811
02:34:46,600 --> 02:34:51,633
(breathing heavily)
3812
02:34:52,299 --> 02:34:53,133
A second of the break.
3813
02:34:56,399 --> 02:34:57,600
There's a point where
you realize
3814
02:34:57,666 --> 02:35:00,366
you're doing the same things
you used to do,
3815
02:35:00,433 --> 02:35:02,566
but your body just responds
differently.
3816
02:35:02,933 --> 02:35:05,933
Same workouts, same effort,
same discipline,
3817
02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:07,666
but recovery takes longer.
3818
02:35:08,133 --> 02:35:09,033
Energy isn't as steady
3819
02:35:09,233 --> 02:35:11,533
and you don't bounce back
the way you used to.
3820
02:35:11,600 --> 02:35:15,799
And once you notice that, you
start asking questions.
3821
02:35:15,866 --> 02:35:16,666
Is it sleep?
3822
02:35:16,733 --> 02:35:17,633
Is it age?
3823
02:35:17,700 --> 02:35:18,799
Is it hormones?
3824
02:35:18,866 --> 02:35:21,466
That's when guys start looking
into testosterone
3825
02:35:21,533 --> 02:35:24,166
and that space gets confusing
fast.
3826
02:35:24,233 --> 02:35:26,266
That's why I started taking
Mars men.
3827
02:35:26,333 --> 02:35:28,500
What stood out to me is
that Mars men
3828
02:35:28,566 --> 02:35:32,500
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3829
02:35:32,566 --> 02:35:36,133
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3830
02:35:36,200 --> 02:35:38,933
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your body use more
3831
02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:40,566
of what it's already
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3832
02:35:40,633 --> 02:35:43,299
And since taking it, I've
noticed steadier energy,
3833
02:35:43,366 --> 02:35:46,266
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throughout the day.
3834
02:35:46,333 --> 02:35:48,000
It's not like a caffeine
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3835
02:35:48,100 --> 02:35:50,166
that just feels more
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3836
02:35:50,266 --> 02:35:53,000
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3837
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3839
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3840
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3847
02:36:22,766 --> 02:36:23,799
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02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:27,000
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3849
02:36:28,133 --> 02:36:30,866
(water splashing)
3850
02:36:41,466 --> 02:36:52,533
(water splashing)
3851
02:36:59,466 --> 02:37:03,700
All right, Candace, we're
back from the break,
3852
02:37:03,933 --> 02:37:06,299
and let's get back to you.
3853
02:37:07,633 --> 02:37:08,533
Degree 180.
3854
02:37:10,466 --> 02:37:12,500
Yeah, just a blog that I had
when I was young.
3855
02:37:12,566 --> 02:37:14,233
I just loved to write, I
was always writing.
3856
02:37:14,833 --> 02:37:18,566
I mean, my early summer is writing
was in third grade.
3857
02:37:18,633 --> 02:37:20,566
I was writing poems.
3858
02:37:20,666 --> 02:37:22,000
As soon as I could learn
to write,
3859
02:37:22,066 --> 02:37:24,433
it felt like such an
escape for me.
3860
02:37:24,899 --> 02:37:27,933
I used to write songs
and poetry,
3861
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:30,866
and I just still love
writing.
3862
02:37:30,933 --> 02:37:33,600
I'm one of the rare people
that actually wrote
3863
02:37:33,666 --> 02:37:34,799
both of her books.
3864
02:37:35,133 --> 02:37:37,500
People usually get a
ghostwriter,
3865
02:37:37,666 --> 02:37:41,500
and it's probably my favorite
pastime.
3866
02:37:41,700 --> 02:37:44,266
It's something that I genuinely
enjoy doing for me,
3867
02:37:44,333 --> 02:37:45,166
and so with Degree 180,
3868
02:37:45,966 --> 02:37:49,266
I got a bunch of girls together
to just put together a blog
3869
02:37:49,533 --> 02:37:50,766
and let everybody write about
3870
02:37:50,833 --> 02:37:51,833
whatever they wanted
to write about,
3871
02:37:52,233 --> 02:37:53,899
which is funny, because now
they take articles
3872
02:37:53,966 --> 02:37:56,666
that I didn't write, because
it was my blog,
3873
02:37:56,733 --> 02:37:58,399
but it clearly was written
by another person.
3874
02:37:58,766 --> 02:38:00,000
We'd be like, she operated
a blog
3875
02:38:00,066 --> 02:38:02,766
where someone said that Trump
had tiny hands,
3876
02:38:02,833 --> 02:38:04,399
and I'm like, yeah, and
someone else
3877
02:38:05,133 --> 02:38:06,733
did a whole article bashing
Hillary.
3878
02:38:07,433 --> 02:38:08,233
Writing is expression.
3879
02:38:08,299 --> 02:38:09,666
I let everybody write whatever
they wanted to write,
3880
02:38:09,733 --> 02:38:14,899
and so, yeah, it was a fun
passion project of mine.
3881
02:38:15,333 --> 02:38:16,266
Where do we go from there?
3882
02:38:17,166 --> 02:38:22,833
From there, I then started
making videos on YouTube.
3883
02:38:22,899 --> 02:38:25,266
It was all pretty
back-to-back,
3884
02:38:25,966 --> 02:38:32,166
and I launched my YouTube
channel in the fall of,
3885
02:38:32,233 --> 02:38:36,700
in August of 2017, right?
3886
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:38,799
I think is when I launched
my YouTube channel
3887
02:38:39,533 --> 02:38:42,500
as Red Pill Black, and
just started,
3888
02:38:43,133 --> 02:38:44,733
when BLM stuff was
heating up,
3889
02:38:45,366 --> 02:38:48,066
I sort of was making funny
videos on YouTube,
3890
02:38:48,466 --> 02:38:49,933
and they did pretty well.
3891
02:38:50,133 --> 02:38:51,700
You would get 100,000
views here,
3892
02:38:52,533 --> 02:38:55,100
which is great for a new
content creator.
3893
02:38:55,166 --> 02:38:55,799
Yeah, no kidding.
3894
02:38:56,066 --> 02:38:57,399
And I did this little
funny skit,
3895
02:38:57,466 --> 02:38:59,799
Mom, Dad, I'm a conservative,
which I wrote.
3896
02:38:59,866 --> 02:39:03,866
My cousin, who I was telling
you was the person
3897
02:39:03,933 --> 02:39:05,399
that was with me the most
when I was really sick.
3898
02:39:05,466 --> 02:39:06,733
I was just kind of coming
out of that.
3899
02:39:07,266 --> 02:39:08,733
She recorded it, I wrote it,
3900
02:39:08,799 --> 02:39:11,600
and we just shot it, and
it did pretty well.
3901
02:39:12,133 --> 02:39:14,433
And then I think it was like
the third video I did.
3902
02:39:15,766 --> 02:39:16,933
There's an account online,
3903
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:18,533
I don't know if you're familiar
with Anomaly.
3904
02:39:18,799 --> 02:39:22,833
He lifted the video, and it
was me discussing
3905
02:39:25,133 --> 02:39:26,566
Black Lives Matter, I
think it was,
3906
02:39:26,633 --> 02:39:29,133
and he put it onto Facebook,
3907
02:39:29,633 --> 02:39:31,799
and it got 26 million views.
3908
02:39:33,333 --> 02:39:35,000
26 million views. 26
million views.
3909
02:39:36,899 --> 02:39:38,933
It went absolutely viral.
3910
02:39:39,100 --> 02:39:40,433
And that's your third video.
3911
02:39:40,533 --> 02:39:42,933
Yeah, I don't know if it was
about BLM, actually.
3912
02:39:43,700 --> 02:39:45,799
It was my third video,
and it was about,
3913
02:39:45,866 --> 02:39:46,799
I can't remember what
the topic was,
3914
02:39:46,866 --> 02:39:47,799
it was just so crazy to me,
3915
02:39:48,333 --> 02:39:49,933
but it just went completely
viral,
3916
02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:51,600
and then I got the call
from Fox News,
3917
02:39:51,666 --> 02:39:54,000
it was Jesse Waters'
team that said,
3918
02:39:54,066 --> 02:39:57,500
"Come on, Waters World," and the
rest really was history.
3919
02:39:57,899 --> 02:40:01,566
I got an invite to go, it all
happened so quickly,
3920
02:40:01,700 --> 02:40:02,733
it was unbelievable.
3921
02:40:03,100 --> 02:40:05,466
After doing Fox News, I
then got an invite
3922
02:40:05,899 --> 02:40:08,233
to go down to David Horowitz's
Freedom Center,
3923
02:40:08,633 --> 02:40:10,033
and that's where I
met Charlie,
3924
02:40:10,666 --> 02:40:12,366
and people told me he
had to hire me
3925
02:40:12,600 --> 02:40:14,433
after I gave my little
presentation,
3926
02:40:14,500 --> 02:40:16,766
I was just on a panel talking
about my experience.
3927
02:40:17,366 --> 02:40:21,233
And yeah, it went.
3928
02:40:21,799 --> 02:40:23,700
So you started your own
YouTube channel,
3929
02:40:24,666 --> 02:40:27,066
did three videos, then
you get connected
3930
02:40:27,133 --> 02:40:27,899
with Charlie Kirk?
3931
02:40:29,133 --> 02:40:31,633
That is the truth, I mean,
in that order,
3932
02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:34,366
it must be my third or fourth
video, it was super quick,
3933
02:40:34,433 --> 02:40:35,833
and I can't remember, I can't
remember the topic,
3934
02:40:36,100 --> 02:40:38,433
maybe it was feminism, it
was just some topic
3935
02:40:38,866 --> 02:40:40,799
that I was riffing on, it just
went absolutely viral,
3936
02:40:40,866 --> 02:40:41,866
got 26 million views.
3937
02:40:42,200 --> 02:40:43,866
Is that video still up?
3938
02:40:44,000 --> 02:40:46,299
Yeah, it's still the same
YouTube channel,
3939
02:40:46,366 --> 02:40:49,466
you can go back and watch
the early days skits
3940
02:40:50,066 --> 02:40:52,600
with very poor quality
camera,
3941
02:40:52,833 --> 02:40:54,666
just doing it from my
granddad's house,
3942
02:40:56,266 --> 02:40:58,200
and it was just, yeah, literally
me and my cousin,
3943
02:40:58,533 --> 02:40:59,566
and I was like, can you
hold the camera,
3944
02:40:59,633 --> 02:41:00,366
I'm just gonna film
something,
3945
02:41:00,433 --> 02:41:01,700
and then I edited it myself,
3946
02:41:02,233 --> 02:41:06,366
and put it up as Red Po Black
was the moniker I was using,
3947
02:41:06,866 --> 02:41:09,466
and it was fun, it
was very fun,
3948
02:41:09,533 --> 02:41:11,133
and then I just sort of
started doing videos
3949
02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:12,299
talking about various topics,
3950
02:41:12,366 --> 02:41:14,799
and then Charlie hired me
to do the same thing
3951
02:41:14,866 --> 02:41:15,799
for Turning Point USA,
3952
02:41:16,333 --> 02:41:17,833
and then to be the communications
director,
3953
02:41:17,899 --> 02:41:20,266
because I think he thought she's
good at communicating,
3954
02:41:20,333 --> 02:41:22,866
and she's able to get all these
people to watch her videos,
3955
02:41:23,399 --> 02:41:27,833
and we just then had an
absolute blast,
3956
02:41:27,899 --> 02:41:29,399
I mean, we were traveling
everywhere,
3957
02:41:30,133 --> 02:41:32,733
the entire country, other
countries doing,
3958
02:41:33,200 --> 02:41:35,166
just building, building,
building, building.
3959
02:41:35,233 --> 02:41:36,333
What channel is this on?
3960
02:41:37,333 --> 02:41:38,033
Which channel?
3961
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:39,299
Is the channel called
Red Pill Black?
3962
02:41:39,366 --> 02:41:41,533
Yeah, you know, you can just
name your YouTube channel
3963
02:41:41,600 --> 02:41:42,833
whenever you want, the
Sean Ryan Show.
3964
02:41:43,266 --> 02:41:45,200
I just named mine Red
Pill Black,
3965
02:41:45,266 --> 02:41:46,066
because I was thinking like,
3966
02:41:46,133 --> 02:41:47,766
oh, here's a Red Pill for
Black America,
3967
02:41:47,933 --> 02:41:49,399
was kind of my thought
process there,
3968
02:41:49,899 --> 02:41:51,766
and then I think it was
Charlie who told me
3969
02:41:51,833 --> 02:41:53,833
you don't wanna have people
meeting you and going,
3970
02:41:53,899 --> 02:41:55,000
oh, you're Red Pill Black,
you know,
3971
02:41:55,066 --> 02:41:56,433
you wanna use your name,
and I was like,
3972
02:41:56,500 --> 02:41:57,799
oh, okay, so I just switched
the channel name
3973
02:41:57,866 --> 02:42:01,633
over to Candace Owens, and
yeah, I still have--
3974
02:42:02,133 --> 02:42:04,799
Is that your channel, or is
that Daily Wire's channel?
3975
02:42:04,866 --> 02:42:06,433
No, I had to pause
my channel.
3976
02:42:06,700 --> 02:42:08,100
I really kind of paused it
when I started working
3977
02:42:08,166 --> 02:42:08,933
for Turning Point USA,
3978
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:10,266
because then I was making
videos for them,
3979
02:42:10,766 --> 02:42:12,000
and so you'll see that gap,
3980
02:42:12,066 --> 02:42:13,799
I kind of only made a few
videos really,
3981
02:42:13,866 --> 02:42:15,933
and then completely stopped
3982
02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:17,666
and was doing work for
Turning Point USA,
3983
02:42:17,733 --> 02:42:19,700
and still making videos, but making
the content for them,
3984
02:42:19,766 --> 02:42:21,333
so it was TPUSA videos
really.
3985
02:42:21,733 --> 02:42:24,466
About various topics, which were
still doing very well,
3986
02:42:24,600 --> 02:42:26,966
and then had kind of the
fire power of,
3987
02:42:27,033 --> 02:42:28,166
I don't have to edit
my own videos,
3988
02:42:28,233 --> 02:42:29,333
and things of that nature,
3989
02:42:30,133 --> 02:42:34,333
and then when I took the job,
3990
02:42:34,833 --> 02:42:36,366
then I was at PragerU,
so I might--
3991
02:42:36,433 --> 02:42:39,133
Hold on, hold on, so
how, I mean,
3992
02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:42,033
I know you and Charlie were
obviously very close,
3993
02:42:42,799 --> 02:42:44,700
how fast did that relationship
develop?
3994
02:42:45,566 --> 02:42:48,933
Right away, because it was such
a small organization,
3995
02:42:49,000 --> 02:42:52,500
this is before they had the
offices in Arizona, right?
3996
02:42:52,566 --> 02:42:53,899
So, Turning Point was small.
3997
02:42:54,233 --> 02:42:55,333
If I remember correctly,
3998
02:42:55,399 --> 02:42:56,266
and people could obviously
go back,
3999
02:42:56,333 --> 02:42:57,133
it's a public company,
4000
02:42:57,633 --> 02:43:00,933
but they were under 10 million
a year, I think,
4001
02:43:01,799 --> 02:43:04,266
when, I want to say they
had cleared
4002
02:43:04,399 --> 02:43:05,833
six million a year, maybe,
4003
02:43:06,666 --> 02:43:08,100
and it was fun.
4004
02:43:09,766 --> 02:43:12,200
When it's a small company,
4005
02:43:12,266 --> 02:43:14,133
and it feels like a startup,
it's really fun.
4006
02:43:15,299 --> 02:43:17,433
Gotta work harder,
sleep less,
4007
02:43:17,633 --> 02:43:19,233
but that's when the best
memories are made,
4008
02:43:19,299 --> 02:43:21,966
and Charlie was wired to
work like that,
4009
02:43:22,033 --> 02:43:24,333
and I just turned my
grandfather,
4010
02:43:24,399 --> 02:43:25,399
and wired to work like that,
4011
02:43:25,466 --> 02:43:29,966
and so we just lived out
of a suitcase,
4012
02:43:30,566 --> 02:43:32,399
doing every possible event,
4013
02:43:32,466 --> 02:43:34,033
every, Charlie had this thing
4014
02:43:34,100 --> 02:43:35,933
where you do every single
Fox News show,
4015
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:37,966
so we were up at the
crack of dawn
4016
02:43:38,033 --> 02:43:40,333
to do Fox and Friends first,
4017
02:43:40,399 --> 02:43:42,000
which is in the four o'clock
AM hour,
4018
02:43:43,366 --> 02:43:44,600
wherever we were,
4019
02:43:44,666 --> 02:43:46,233
because they have their
little studios
4020
02:43:46,299 --> 02:43:47,399
you can run to and do a hit,
4021
02:43:48,200 --> 02:43:51,633
to staying up until you
finally got the call
4022
02:43:51,700 --> 02:43:54,399
to do one of the big ones,
4023
02:43:54,466 --> 02:43:55,633
which for us at the time,
4024
02:43:55,700 --> 02:43:58,366
it was you get the call to
do Laura Ingraham,
4025
02:43:58,433 --> 02:44:00,100
or Tucker Carlson,
we were like,
4026
02:44:00,266 --> 02:44:00,766
or Sean...
4027
02:44:03,000 --> 02:44:03,833
Not Sean Ryan.
4028
02:44:04,266 --> 02:44:05,366
I almost said Sean Ryan,
4029
02:44:05,466 --> 02:44:06,633
you see how naturally
I was like,
4030
02:44:06,700 --> 02:44:08,500
Sean, that's not Sean Ryan,
4031
02:44:08,566 --> 02:44:09,766
I can't believe I'm liking
his name now,
4032
02:44:09,833 --> 02:44:10,500
that's ridiculous.
4033
02:44:11,266 --> 02:44:12,799
Sean on Fox News.
4034
02:44:12,866 --> 02:44:13,266
Hannity.
4035
02:44:13,399 --> 02:44:15,233
Hannity, gosh, I was like,
4036
02:44:15,299 --> 02:44:16,266
why can I not think
of his name?
4037
02:44:16,333 --> 02:44:16,866
It's because of you,
4038
02:44:16,933 --> 02:44:17,799
because you're in
front of me,
4039
02:44:18,366 --> 02:44:19,133
or Sean Hannity,
4040
02:44:19,200 --> 02:44:20,399
that was what you were
building up toward,
4041
02:44:20,466 --> 02:44:22,366
and so Charlie was
always like,
4042
02:44:22,566 --> 02:44:23,666
you wanna do every show
4043
02:44:23,733 --> 02:44:25,133
because the producers for
the other show
4044
02:44:25,200 --> 02:44:26,033
are watching this show,
4045
02:44:26,100 --> 02:44:26,866
and if you're good
on this show,
4046
02:44:26,933 --> 02:44:29,133
he had this whole map of how
it was gonna work,
4047
02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:29,566
and so he was like,
4048
02:44:29,633 --> 02:44:30,733
you never say no to any show,
4049
02:44:31,066 --> 02:44:34,166
and so we did every
Fox News show,
4050
02:44:34,399 --> 02:44:36,433
every hit, yes, yes, yes,
yes, yes, yes, yes,
4051
02:44:36,500 --> 02:44:36,966
we'll do it,
4052
02:44:37,266 --> 02:44:39,033
while trekking throughout
the United States,
4053
02:44:39,100 --> 02:44:40,100
living out of a suitcase,
4054
02:44:40,166 --> 02:44:42,433
the cheapest hotel rooms
imaginable,
4055
02:44:43,833 --> 02:44:47,700
like literally the walls
were so thin,
4056
02:44:47,766 --> 02:44:49,066
a lot of them were airport
hotels,
4057
02:44:49,133 --> 02:44:52,899
like I could just hear Charlie
turning on the shower,
4058
02:44:52,966 --> 02:44:54,566
I could hear Charlie snoring,
4059
02:44:54,633 --> 02:44:56,600
I could just, there's
just a thin,
4060
02:44:57,033 --> 02:44:58,299
you know, it was like a
sheet of paper,
4061
02:44:59,799 --> 02:45:00,766
between our rooms,
4062
02:45:00,833 --> 02:45:02,333
and it was fun,
4063
02:45:02,399 --> 02:45:05,000
I mean, there are so many
just little things
4064
02:45:05,066 --> 02:45:07,200
like that I reflect on now
4065
02:45:07,266 --> 02:45:08,066
that are just so funny,
4066
02:45:08,133 --> 02:45:09,566
like if you get somewhere,
4067
02:45:09,633 --> 02:45:11,433
and then suddenly your suitcase
didn't come through,
4068
02:45:11,899 --> 02:45:12,866
and you're going,
4069
02:45:13,066 --> 02:45:14,700
I said we have to get up at
the crack of dawn
4070
02:45:14,766 --> 02:45:16,299
to find the earliest Walmart,
4071
02:45:16,366 --> 02:45:17,399
buy a blazer,
4072
02:45:17,466 --> 02:45:20,533
so that we can do the Fox
News hit at 6am,
4073
02:45:20,833 --> 02:45:22,933
and it was madness,
4074
02:45:23,000 --> 02:45:23,966
a lot of coffee,
4075
02:45:24,033 --> 02:45:25,133
a lot of Chipotle,
4076
02:45:25,333 --> 02:45:26,466
so much Chipotle,
4077
02:45:27,366 --> 02:45:29,700
we ate so much Chipotle,
4078
02:45:30,033 --> 02:45:32,433
I can't believe I don't have
stock in that company,
4079
02:45:33,133 --> 02:45:33,833
and we kept being like,
4080
02:45:33,899 --> 02:45:35,533
they have got to hire us,
4081
02:45:35,600 --> 02:45:37,633
so did they have to like,
4082
02:45:37,766 --> 02:45:39,933
do an ad agreement with
us or something,
4083
02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:41,000
because we're eating this
much of it,
4084
02:45:41,966 --> 02:45:43,366
drinking a ton of Starbucks,
4085
02:45:43,433 --> 02:45:44,799
and yeah, I mean,
4086
02:45:44,866 --> 02:45:48,233
just really traveling
with someone
4087
02:45:48,466 --> 02:45:50,033
is the fastest way to get
to know someone,
4088
02:45:50,200 --> 02:45:51,133
I can tell you that for free,
4089
02:45:51,633 --> 02:45:54,100
you really get to see
the person,
4090
02:45:54,166 --> 02:45:54,833
you know what I mean,
4091
02:45:54,899 --> 02:45:57,899
there's no glam in traveling
like that,
4092
02:45:57,966 --> 02:46:00,866
and who they are in the
morning time,
4093
02:46:00,933 --> 02:46:02,466
you know, nighttime,
4094
02:46:02,700 --> 02:46:03,833
how they pack their suitcase,
4095
02:46:03,899 --> 02:46:05,933
sometimes you get to a room,
4096
02:46:06,000 --> 02:46:07,033
and his room's ready,
4097
02:46:07,100 --> 02:46:07,933
and my room's not,
4098
02:46:08,000 --> 02:46:09,866
and so, oh, but I'm excited
to take a nap,
4099
02:46:09,933 --> 02:46:10,233
and so he's like,
4100
02:46:10,299 --> 02:46:11,100
I'm gonna go for a run,
4101
02:46:11,166 --> 02:46:12,433
you can go for a nap
in my room,
4102
02:46:12,700 --> 02:46:13,700
that we're exchanging,
4103
02:46:13,766 --> 02:46:15,566
and so, yeah,
4104
02:46:15,633 --> 02:46:17,833
you get to see people
at their worst,
4105
02:46:17,899 --> 02:46:18,866
and at the same time,
4106
02:46:19,700 --> 02:46:21,566
I think one of the
things that
4107
02:46:23,533 --> 02:46:24,799
made me and Charlie so close,
4108
02:46:24,866 --> 02:46:26,566
because I think about why
we sort of had
4109
02:46:26,633 --> 02:46:27,600
this unbreakable bond,
4110
02:46:27,666 --> 02:46:29,333
despite everything,
4111
02:46:30,333 --> 02:46:31,500
and if you think about
your life,
4112
02:46:31,566 --> 02:46:35,066
who are the people that you actually
feel the closest to,
4113
02:46:35,433 --> 02:46:38,266
it's people that you grow
up with, right?
4114
02:46:38,333 --> 02:46:40,733
Like there's something about
those early relationships,
4115
02:46:40,799 --> 02:46:42,600
and I think about the people
4116
02:46:42,666 --> 02:46:43,666
that I went to high
school with,
4117
02:46:43,733 --> 02:46:44,833
like either something,
4118
02:46:45,033 --> 02:46:47,066
they're so, it's so unique
and so special,
4119
02:46:47,466 --> 02:46:48,666
because it's a coming of age,
4120
02:46:49,233 --> 02:46:52,266
and it was the same
with Charlie,
4121
02:46:52,733 --> 02:46:55,066
we had a certain type
of coming of age
4122
02:46:55,133 --> 02:46:56,266
together in politics,
4123
02:46:56,766 --> 02:46:58,933
neither of us was very well
known, right?
4124
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:02,000
We were very idealistic about
what politics was,
4125
02:47:02,066 --> 02:47:03,433
we thought we could
change things.
4126
02:47:03,533 --> 02:47:05,299
How old were you when you
started turning--
4127
02:47:05,366 --> 02:47:07,500
I was a lot older than
Charlie was,
4128
02:47:08,366 --> 02:47:09,466
26.
4129
02:47:10,466 --> 02:47:10,666
26?
4130
02:47:10,833 --> 02:47:12,533
Yeah, and I wanna say
Charlie was
4131
02:47:14,766 --> 02:47:17,666
20, don't quote me on this,
4132
02:47:17,733 --> 02:47:19,866
I feel like I was 26 when I
started making my videos,
4133
02:47:19,933 --> 02:47:20,799
but I might not have been,
4134
02:47:21,200 --> 02:47:22,733
and then Charlie would have
been like 21,
4135
02:47:24,233 --> 02:47:25,299
I have to figure that out,
4136
02:47:25,366 --> 02:47:28,533
but that sounds about
right to me.
4137
02:47:30,033 --> 02:47:32,500
Are they still kinda growing
up together at that age?
4138
02:47:32,566 --> 02:47:33,933
Yeah, but it's so different
though,
4139
02:47:34,000 --> 02:47:34,899
when it's growing up,
4140
02:47:35,299 --> 02:47:37,399
then there's like that growing
up that happens.
4141
02:47:37,633 --> 02:47:42,133
I mean you also knew each other
before it all happened.
4142
02:47:42,600 --> 02:47:45,166
That's what I mean, we
weren't well known.
4143
02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:47,399
Neither of us was well known.
4144
02:47:47,933 --> 02:47:49,666
Like when I started working
for Turning Point USA,
4145
02:47:49,733 --> 02:47:53,266
I didn't have even 10,000
followers on,
4146
02:47:53,366 --> 02:47:58,266
I think I had, maybe I had got
like 30,000 followers on X,
4147
02:47:58,600 --> 02:47:59,433
that were following
my videos,
4148
02:47:59,500 --> 02:48:01,666
so I wasn't well known, Charlie
wasn't well known,
4149
02:48:02,066 --> 02:48:05,233
and we were trying to
build something,
4150
02:48:05,299 --> 02:48:07,799
and we thought we could
really change things,
4151
02:48:07,866 --> 02:48:09,966
so there's an innocence
there too,
4152
02:48:10,033 --> 02:48:11,233
where you're like, wow, wow,
4153
02:48:11,299 --> 02:48:13,566
we're in the excitement of,
4154
02:48:14,133 --> 02:48:15,700
looking back on the messages,
4155
02:48:16,100 --> 02:48:18,299
like Don Trump Jr. just
retweeted me,
4156
02:48:18,366 --> 02:48:19,066
you know what I mean?
4157
02:48:20,166 --> 02:48:22,799
He knows I exist, and this
person just retweeted me,
4158
02:48:22,866 --> 02:48:24,433
and so and so, Laura Ingram
just asked me
4159
02:48:24,500 --> 02:48:25,533
to do our show for the
first time,
4160
02:48:26,433 --> 02:48:29,166
and there's an innocence
even looking back
4161
02:48:29,233 --> 02:48:31,533
and reflecting in Charlie's life
by this time next year,
4162
02:48:31,899 --> 02:48:34,100
you're gonna have 100,000
followers, right?
4163
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:36,666
And so there was a coming
of age,
4164
02:48:36,966 --> 02:48:38,633
I think is what made
us so close,
4165
02:48:38,700 --> 02:48:41,399
and then also realizing,
whoa,
4166
02:48:41,466 --> 02:48:43,066
politics is really nasty
business,
4167
02:48:43,133 --> 02:48:45,700
and then people that, because we
were so naturally trusting
4168
02:48:45,766 --> 02:48:47,266
and we thought that this
could be a fair game,
4169
02:48:47,666 --> 02:48:48,566
like we're gonna work hard,
4170
02:48:48,633 --> 02:48:49,633
and Charlie used to
always say,
4171
02:48:49,700 --> 02:48:52,000
we can always, what is the
one thing we can control?
4172
02:48:52,466 --> 02:48:54,233
We can always outwork
our opponents,
4173
02:48:54,833 --> 02:48:56,000
that's the one thing
in our control,
4174
02:48:56,066 --> 02:48:57,200
and we did, we outworked
them,
4175
02:48:57,633 --> 02:48:59,100
and that's how we climbed,
4176
02:48:59,166 --> 02:49:02,733
and the moment of then Kanye
tweeting me,
4177
02:49:03,299 --> 02:49:04,633
like never forget that
morning,
4178
02:49:05,000 --> 02:49:08,133
I was just in tears,
calling Charlie
4179
02:49:08,200 --> 02:49:10,233
and just being like, we
made this happen,
4180
02:49:10,799 --> 02:49:14,233
and everything really sort of
exploded after that,
4181
02:49:14,299 --> 02:49:16,700
but that's what it
is, I think,
4182
02:49:17,066 --> 02:49:19,133
is it's a coming of age and
you can't rip that away,
4183
02:49:19,833 --> 02:49:22,133
you can't rip that away to see
people in that environment
4184
02:49:22,200 --> 02:49:24,299
and watch them come up and
watch them navigate
4185
02:49:24,366 --> 02:49:27,600
so many snakes and to earn
where they are,
4186
02:49:27,899 --> 02:49:31,766
Charlie earned that and I fought
and I earned that,
4187
02:49:31,833 --> 02:49:36,033
and then to watch people
cut his life short,
4188
02:49:36,899 --> 02:49:38,500
and then to watch people
who didn't earn it,
4189
02:49:38,833 --> 02:49:42,700
say it's mine now, it doesn't
work for me.
4190
02:49:43,700 --> 02:49:45,966
What was the goal back then,
what were you guys doing?
4191
02:49:46,933 --> 02:49:50,000
Well, my goal was to change
black America,
4192
02:49:50,233 --> 02:49:55,600
and I'm laughing because it just
seems like my worldview
4193
02:49:55,666 --> 02:49:57,600
was small in realizing what
the problem was,
4194
02:49:57,899 --> 02:50:00,266
it's like, I'm gonna get black
America to realize
4195
02:50:00,600 --> 02:50:01,866
that the Democrats are lying
4196
02:50:01,933 --> 02:50:04,233
to them about black
lives matter
4197
02:50:04,299 --> 02:50:05,966
and keeping us focused
on race issues
4198
02:50:06,033 --> 02:50:07,766
because we're not ever
gonna get ahead,
4199
02:50:08,033 --> 02:50:09,866
but it's so much bigger than
black America,
4200
02:50:09,933 --> 02:50:11,833
it's all of America, and all
4201
02:50:11,899 --> 02:50:13,500
of us focused on various
issues,
4202
02:50:13,899 --> 02:50:15,700
and so that was like
my micro issue,
4203
02:50:15,766 --> 02:50:18,799
I cared deeply about wanting
to wake up black America,
4204
02:50:19,299 --> 02:50:21,633
and also I was pretty
passionate
4205
02:50:21,700 --> 02:50:22,866
about the feminism thing too,
4206
02:50:24,333 --> 02:50:28,799
and Charlie truly wanted
to rebuild the RNC,
4207
02:50:29,933 --> 02:50:32,566
and make it palatable
for the youth,
4208
02:50:32,633 --> 02:50:34,666
and build an organization
based on free markets
4209
02:50:34,733 --> 02:50:37,600
and capitalism, and showing
the youth that like,
4210
02:50:37,666 --> 02:50:39,500
actually it's kind of cool
to have a brain
4211
02:50:39,566 --> 02:50:43,366
when you're young too, and to
make conservatism hip,
4212
02:50:43,433 --> 02:50:49,333
I guess, amongst a very liberal
organ of college campuses,
4213
02:50:49,399 --> 02:50:51,933
and he did that, he did that.
4214
02:50:52,233 --> 02:50:54,533
That's what it was back then,
it was going to campuses.
4215
02:50:54,933 --> 02:50:56,466
Yeah, it was all about
building,
4216
02:50:57,166 --> 02:50:58,633
disrupting college campuses,
4217
02:50:58,966 --> 02:51:01,500
which had become sort of these
centers for indoctrination,
4218
02:51:02,299 --> 02:51:05,033
and we just felt like we
could change that,
4219
02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:05,866
we could change the world,
4220
02:51:05,933 --> 02:51:08,166
and maybe one day Charlie was
gonna be president,
4221
02:51:08,233 --> 02:51:09,766
I know his biggest goal
at that time
4222
02:51:09,833 --> 02:51:12,633
was he used to listen to
Rush Limbaugh,
4223
02:51:12,766 --> 02:51:15,566
like Rush Limbaugh was
his Roman Empire,
4224
02:51:15,833 --> 02:51:18,200
like really he loved
Rush Limbaugh,
4225
02:51:18,666 --> 02:51:21,200
and so the way that I felt
when Kanye tweeted me,
4226
02:51:21,266 --> 02:51:22,600
because I was always
more cultural,
4227
02:51:22,933 --> 02:51:27,366
and I knew what Kanye meant to
culture for people like me
4228
02:51:27,433 --> 02:51:29,200
who grew up and didn't know
if he'd sort of ever,
4229
02:51:30,466 --> 02:51:32,933
I don't know, get out of the
thing, so to speak,
4230
02:51:34,366 --> 02:51:37,200
for him, he felt that way
about Rush Limbaugh,
4231
02:51:37,266 --> 02:51:40,033
and so when Rush Limbaugh sat
on his radio show,
4232
02:51:40,100 --> 02:51:42,233
like mentioned, there's this
young guy, Charlie Kirk,
4233
02:51:42,299 --> 02:51:46,133
I mean, Charlie was
like, made,
4234
02:51:46,233 --> 02:51:48,533
like that was his moment,
was just,
4235
02:51:49,633 --> 02:51:51,266
he listened to Rush Limbaugh
every day
4236
02:51:51,333 --> 02:51:52,966
on the drive to school when
he was young,
4237
02:51:53,066 --> 02:51:55,833
so that's who sort of shaped
his ideas,
4238
02:51:56,033 --> 02:51:58,733
so I should say actually two
people who I know
4239
02:51:58,933 --> 02:51:59,866
who were conservative when
they were young,
4240
02:51:59,933 --> 02:52:01,533
Charlie too, apparently,
some things,
4241
02:52:01,899 --> 02:52:03,899
like my husband, like what do
you mean you weren't liberal
4242
02:52:03,966 --> 02:52:06,033
when you were young, it sounds
so much more fun,
4243
02:52:06,533 --> 02:52:08,000
but Charlie was, these are
4244
02:52:08,066 --> 02:52:09,533
like these boy genius
or whatever,
4245
02:52:09,600 --> 02:52:11,833
and so he was really shaped
by Rush Limbaugh,
4246
02:52:12,433 --> 02:52:14,266
and yeah, by the end
of his life,
4247
02:52:14,333 --> 02:52:16,799
he would be, he would know
Rush Limbaugh,
4248
02:52:16,899 --> 02:52:19,100
like on, just pick up the
phone and call him,
4249
02:52:19,166 --> 02:52:22,566
and he wanted to one day
have a radio show,
4250
02:52:22,766 --> 02:52:24,633
he was like, who has every
day, day in doubt,
4251
02:52:24,700 --> 02:52:27,433
just three hours of radio,
and the grind of that,
4252
02:52:27,500 --> 02:52:30,833
and he wanted to one day have
his own show, Charlie,
4253
02:52:31,033 --> 02:52:33,933
and be like Rush Limbaugh, and
so when he finally did it,
4254
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:35,533
when he did the Charlie
Kirk show,
4255
02:52:35,766 --> 02:52:38,899
and it was doing so well, I knew
that he would crush it,
4256
02:52:39,266 --> 02:52:40,766
because I was like, this is,
4257
02:52:41,166 --> 02:52:43,466
he was so passionate about
building this,
4258
02:52:44,066 --> 02:52:46,866
and it's also why it positively
disgusts me
4259
02:52:46,933 --> 02:52:48,033
to see what the show
has become,
4260
02:52:48,100 --> 02:52:50,299
because it is the opposite of what
Charlie wanted it to be,
4261
02:52:50,633 --> 02:52:52,933
it's the opposite of what
inspired him,
4262
02:52:53,000 --> 02:52:55,066
it's the opposite of what
Rush Limbaugh was,
4263
02:52:56,933 --> 02:52:59,366
but that's why it's not
doing well,
4264
02:52:59,600 --> 02:53:01,666
because nothing that's not
real will survive.
4265
02:53:05,266 --> 02:53:06,866
My editor in there wanted
me to ask you
4266
02:53:06,933 --> 02:53:08,299
about the Maroon shirts.
4267
02:53:09,866 --> 02:53:10,833
The Maroon shirts.
4268
02:53:10,899 --> 02:53:11,933
The Maroon shirts.
4269
02:53:12,033 --> 02:53:13,000
Yeah. Nothing about this.
4270
02:53:13,500 --> 02:53:15,366
No, I was the person who brought
it to attention,
4271
02:53:15,433 --> 02:53:17,899
they laughed at me, and I know
nothing about the military,
4272
02:53:18,200 --> 02:53:21,466
but I just, when I looked at
the footage of Charlie,
4273
02:53:22,033 --> 02:53:26,200
and what happened on
September 10th,
4274
02:53:26,266 --> 02:53:28,133
it struck me as highly
unusual
4275
02:53:28,200 --> 02:53:29,833
that there were so many men
wearing Maroon shirts,
4276
02:53:29,899 --> 02:53:32,866
like it's not exactly a color
that men wear all the time,
4277
02:53:32,933 --> 02:53:35,733
and there were a lot of men,
all of whom were alone,
4278
02:53:35,799 --> 02:53:37,366
I might add, who were,
4279
02:53:37,799 --> 02:53:39,600
went to just hear Charlie
Kirk speak alone,
4280
02:53:39,866 --> 02:53:40,966
and they were wearing
Maroon shirts,
4281
02:53:41,399 --> 02:53:42,299
and I just said to myself,
4282
02:53:42,366 --> 02:53:45,299
"This feels like organization
to me."
4283
02:53:46,933 --> 02:53:49,100
They're wearing Maroon shirts
to identify each other,
4284
02:53:49,899 --> 02:53:52,299
and lo and behold, I then
learned that,
4285
02:53:53,200 --> 02:53:55,799
from military men, that when
they do operations,
4286
02:53:56,133 --> 02:53:58,433
it's a way for, they'll have
a color of the day,
4287
02:53:58,766 --> 02:54:01,000
which is a way for them to
identify each other,
4288
02:54:01,366 --> 02:54:02,899
if they're doing something,
4289
02:54:03,000 --> 02:54:05,233
whether it's covert operations
or whatever,
4290
02:54:05,299 --> 02:54:09,200
and I believe that those boys
4291
02:54:09,266 --> 02:54:10,633
that were wearing Maroon
shirts
4292
02:54:10,700 --> 02:54:12,033
were all a part of the same,
4293
02:54:12,833 --> 02:54:14,700
I don't know if it's gonna be
like an overseas battalion,
4294
02:54:14,766 --> 02:54:17,033
whatever it is, that
they're--
4295
02:54:17,700 --> 02:54:18,466
An identifier.
4296
02:54:18,933 --> 02:54:22,266
And I even saw, I have a
tape of one person
4297
02:54:22,333 --> 02:54:24,166
after the shot goes off,
bending down low,
4298
02:54:24,233 --> 02:54:26,933
and handing another guy
a Maroon shirt,
4299
02:54:27,000 --> 02:54:29,600
which is even crazier, which
I haven't even,
4300
02:54:30,200 --> 02:54:31,533
I don't even think I spoke
about it on my show,
4301
02:54:31,600 --> 02:54:33,133
they just hand him a
Maroon shirt,
4302
02:54:33,299 --> 02:54:35,600
caught on just the very
bottom of the camera,
4303
02:54:35,966 --> 02:54:37,600
and I'm like, "Passed around
a Maroon shirt
4304
02:54:37,666 --> 02:54:38,533
"after a shot goes off.
4305
02:54:38,833 --> 02:54:39,966
"That feels kind of weird."
4306
02:54:40,266 --> 02:54:42,333
So there was an element
which makes sense
4307
02:54:42,399 --> 02:54:44,600
that you would color
coordinate,
4308
02:54:44,666 --> 02:54:46,033
so you know where to look.
4309
02:54:47,533 --> 02:54:49,500
Men just don't wear Maroon
that often,
4310
02:54:49,566 --> 02:54:50,466
is what I would say.
4311
02:54:52,333 --> 02:54:52,833
Wow.
4312
02:54:53,600 --> 02:54:54,700
Why did you wind up, I mean,
4313
02:54:54,766 --> 02:54:56,700
it sounds like you really
liked Oregon there.
4314
02:54:57,333 --> 02:54:58,166
Why did you leave?
4315
02:54:58,600 --> 02:54:59,533
Turning Point changed.
4316
02:55:00,566 --> 02:55:03,700
After the, I mean, it was a
couple of factors at play,
4317
02:55:03,766 --> 02:55:05,433
but Turning Point, like
I said to you,
4318
02:55:05,500 --> 02:55:06,700
I always love a startup vibe.
4319
02:55:06,899 --> 02:55:08,066
It's fun, there's more
freedom.
4320
02:55:08,633 --> 02:55:10,966
And after the Kanye tweet,
4321
02:55:11,033 --> 02:55:13,366
and I'm saying this
reflectively,
4322
02:55:13,833 --> 02:55:16,700
hindsight's 20-20, everything
changed.
4323
02:55:16,766 --> 02:55:18,399
Like, Turning Point was
suddenly on the map,
4324
02:55:18,466 --> 02:55:19,733
Kanye put it on the map,
4325
02:55:20,166 --> 02:55:22,533
whether people wanna recognize
that or not.
4326
02:55:22,666 --> 02:55:24,600
Suddenly, everyone's going, "Who
is this Candace Owens?
4327
02:55:24,666 --> 02:55:25,700
"I love the way Candace
Owens thinks
4328
02:55:25,766 --> 02:55:28,066
"what Candace Owens was working
for Turning Point USA."
4329
02:55:28,700 --> 02:55:30,366
And suddenly, money started
coming in,
4330
02:55:30,433 --> 02:55:31,700
they started telling,
you know,
4331
02:55:31,766 --> 02:55:33,066
Charlie needed the PR person,
4332
02:55:33,133 --> 02:55:35,500
he needed this person, he
needed to get this woman
4333
02:55:35,566 --> 02:55:37,133
to say she shared it in
in donations.
4334
02:55:37,200 --> 02:55:39,333
I mean, just like the whole
thing became
4335
02:55:39,766 --> 02:55:41,166
much more corporatized.
4336
02:55:41,766 --> 02:55:43,866
And I had warned Charlie
about,
4337
02:55:43,933 --> 02:55:45,100
I didn't like some of
the characters
4338
02:55:45,166 --> 02:55:46,333
that were being brought
around him.
4339
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:49,966
And I didn't love the 501(c)(3)
world in general.
4340
02:55:50,366 --> 02:55:53,333
It's my, it goes against my
natural character.
4341
02:55:53,399 --> 02:55:55,533
Charlie was such a great
diplomat.
4342
02:55:56,299 --> 02:55:59,566
And he would take the abuses
from the donors.
4343
02:56:00,066 --> 02:56:01,833
The bigger the check,
the more control
4344
02:56:02,000 --> 02:56:04,266
is what I recognized
very quickly.
4345
02:56:04,766 --> 02:56:07,299
And that's not a game
that I think
4346
02:56:07,366 --> 02:56:09,100
I'm naturally made to play.
4347
02:56:09,866 --> 02:56:11,966
And so a point arrived where,
4348
02:56:12,399 --> 02:56:13,799
and in retrospect, it's
interesting,
4349
02:56:13,866 --> 02:56:16,533
somebody had pulled an
old tape of me
4350
02:56:17,033 --> 02:56:19,533
and presented it out
of context
4351
02:56:19,600 --> 02:56:21,200
of me and Charlie in London,
4352
02:56:21,566 --> 02:56:24,166
where we were asked a question
about nationalism.
4353
02:56:24,733 --> 02:56:25,766
They stripped the question
4354
02:56:25,833 --> 02:56:27,399
and they made it look like
I was on stage
4355
02:56:27,466 --> 02:56:30,033
preaching about Hitler,
like, and saying,
4356
02:56:30,466 --> 02:56:33,066
if Hitler just wanted to
be in Germany,
4357
02:56:33,133 --> 02:56:33,833
that'd be great.
4358
02:56:34,600 --> 02:56:35,866
But what I was saying was,
4359
02:56:35,933 --> 02:56:37,000
I don't, they said,
4360
02:56:37,066 --> 02:56:38,933
doesn't nationalism feel
like a dirty word?
4361
02:56:39,000 --> 02:56:40,299
Like, how can you say you're
a nationalist?
4362
02:56:40,366 --> 02:56:42,266
And I was like, Hitler wasn't
a nationalist.
4363
02:56:42,600 --> 02:56:43,266
You know, Hitler was like,
4364
02:56:43,333 --> 02:56:45,133
hey, I'm just wanna be in Germany
and make America great.
4365
02:56:45,200 --> 02:56:46,333
Like, that wouldn't be
problematic.
4366
02:56:46,399 --> 02:56:48,899
He was a globalist, he had
global aspirations.
4367
02:56:49,333 --> 02:56:51,366
Long story short, they
made this video
4368
02:56:52,166 --> 02:56:53,299
go viral out of nowhere.
4369
02:56:53,366 --> 02:56:54,733
And I always now go
back to that
4370
02:56:54,799 --> 02:56:55,799
and I wonder who did that.
4371
02:56:56,433 --> 02:56:59,866
And suddenly, like a Jewish group
issued a thing saying
4372
02:56:59,933 --> 02:57:01,399
that I was like anti-Semitic.
4373
02:57:01,733 --> 02:57:03,533
It was so crazy.
4374
02:57:04,166 --> 02:57:05,899
And donors were calling
him, telling him
4375
02:57:05,966 --> 02:57:08,666
that like he needed to pull
back away from me.
4376
02:57:08,733 --> 02:57:09,566
It's so funny to think that
4377
02:57:09,633 --> 02:57:11,433
this was another Zionist
scandal.
4378
02:57:12,000 --> 02:57:14,233
And at the same, and I was so
shocked at this time
4379
02:57:14,299 --> 02:57:18,000
because I had, I mean, I just
grew up in a very Jewish,
4380
02:57:18,066 --> 02:57:20,466
I had never been accused of
being an anti-Semite.
4381
02:57:20,533 --> 02:57:21,899
And I- You were, this was-
4382
02:57:22,333 --> 02:57:23,233
Yeah, this was- Way before-
4383
02:57:23,299 --> 02:57:24,166
Oh my gosh, before, I mean,
4384
02:57:24,233 --> 02:57:26,000
like, and I was like
genuinely hurt.
4385
02:57:26,366 --> 02:57:27,600
And that's how it feels
the first time
4386
02:57:27,666 --> 02:57:28,799
you're called something
that you're not,
4387
02:57:29,033 --> 02:57:30,799
before you realize it's a
political game, right?
4388
02:57:31,266 --> 02:57:32,700
When someone's first like,
you're a racist
4389
02:57:32,766 --> 02:57:36,399
or like you're an anti-Semite,
it is so shocking.
4390
02:57:36,466 --> 02:57:37,933
Like I had Jewish best
friends growing up.
4391
02:57:38,000 --> 02:57:40,799
I was just going like, how
would they ever say this?
4392
02:57:41,066 --> 02:57:43,466
Why would BuzzFeed make this
video go viral?
4393
02:57:43,533 --> 02:57:45,200
Why is there suddenly
this group?
4394
02:57:46,033 --> 02:57:48,766
And I can't remember, it was
the Simon Wiesenthal Center
4395
02:57:48,833 --> 02:57:50,733
who issued a strong
condemnation
4396
02:57:51,033 --> 02:57:54,033
and they have a lot of power
about my words.
4397
02:57:54,100 --> 02:57:56,000
And I'm like, why are they
all intentionally
4398
02:57:56,466 --> 02:57:59,666
not showing the full remarks
of what I was answering to?
4399
02:57:59,733 --> 02:58:01,233
I didn't even say Jewish,
nothing.
4400
02:58:01,566 --> 02:58:02,966
It just was about, the
question was,
4401
02:58:03,233 --> 02:58:04,700
was Hitler a nationalist?
4402
02:58:04,766 --> 02:58:07,700
Can we be nationalistic
without being accused
4403
02:58:07,766 --> 02:58:08,733
of being Adolf Hitler?
4404
02:58:09,133 --> 02:58:10,166
There were journalists
in the room,
4405
02:58:10,233 --> 02:58:11,166
there was no issue with it.
4406
02:58:11,233 --> 02:58:12,966
And somebody very clearly
went back
4407
02:58:13,033 --> 02:58:15,466
and tried to find what they
could scandalize.
4408
02:58:16,000 --> 02:58:17,299
And I now have the
perspective
4409
02:58:17,366 --> 02:58:19,600
that this was an intentional
scandal
4410
02:58:19,666 --> 02:58:22,733
that was made whole cloth
out of thin air.
4411
02:58:24,066 --> 02:58:26,533
And to put pressure
behind Charlie
4412
02:58:26,799 --> 02:58:29,233
and to sort of pull us apart
in a weird way.
4413
02:58:30,733 --> 02:58:32,466
And so anyway, so I'm like,
4414
02:58:32,633 --> 02:58:36,000
I was genuinely like apologizing,
like going,
4415
02:58:36,066 --> 02:58:37,899
this is what I meant, here's
the full context,
4416
02:58:37,966 --> 02:58:38,933
here's the full video.
4417
02:58:39,333 --> 02:58:43,500
And at the same time, who
arrived into my life
4418
02:58:43,566 --> 02:58:46,766
and made me an offer and was
like, we can help you,
4419
02:58:47,166 --> 02:58:49,766
you know, fix this was Prager
University,
4420
02:58:50,233 --> 02:58:51,299
a Jewish organization.
4421
02:58:51,666 --> 02:58:55,433
And that arrived as like,
and they offered me
4422
02:58:55,733 --> 02:58:56,766
much more money than I
was working at,
4423
02:58:57,166 --> 02:58:58,299
making at Turning Point USA.
4424
02:58:58,366 --> 02:59:01,600
And so it seemed like
a perfect,
4425
02:59:01,933 --> 02:59:03,299
I had just gotten engaged
as well.
4426
02:59:03,366 --> 02:59:05,233
And so like, you know, my ability
to kind of travel
4427
02:59:05,299 --> 02:59:06,399
the country and do
those things.
4428
02:59:06,466 --> 02:59:08,066
So it seemed like a
perfect storm
4429
02:59:08,133 --> 02:59:09,133
to kind of take the
next step.
4430
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:11,766
And sure enough, I went to
LA to meet with them.
4431
02:59:11,833 --> 02:59:13,766
And this is now one of the
stranger things
4432
02:59:13,833 --> 02:59:14,733
that's ever happened.
4433
02:59:14,799 --> 02:59:16,000
And I didn't think of
it at the time,
4434
02:59:16,066 --> 02:59:18,966
I was totally just baffled
by the scandal.
4435
02:59:20,566 --> 02:59:22,799
Marisa, the CEO of PragerU
took me
4436
02:59:23,166 --> 02:59:24,366
to the Simon Wiesenthal
Center.
4437
02:59:25,366 --> 02:59:26,366
Right, she said she
could help
4438
02:59:26,433 --> 02:59:27,466
make this go away
or whatever.
4439
02:59:27,533 --> 02:59:29,200
And she took me to the Simon
Wiesenthal Center.
4440
02:59:29,933 --> 02:59:32,666
And there was this guy,
I'm gonna say,
4441
02:59:32,733 --> 02:59:36,166
he was like a chief rabbi, I
don't know, he was dressed.
4442
02:59:36,866 --> 02:59:39,200
He was very much the guy, you
know what I mean?
4443
02:59:40,000 --> 02:59:41,033
They didn't speak a word
of English,
4444
02:59:41,100 --> 02:59:42,733
they spoke fluently
in Hebrew.
4445
02:59:43,566 --> 02:59:45,200
I just sat in the room
as they spoke.
4446
02:59:45,733 --> 02:59:47,666
And they went back and forth
speaking in Hebrew.
4447
02:59:48,399 --> 02:59:51,299
And then Marisa and I left,
4448
02:59:51,366 --> 02:59:52,833
and she said everything
was gonna be fine.
4449
02:59:53,733 --> 02:59:54,533
And the scandal went away.
4450
02:59:56,433 --> 02:59:57,000
What?
4451
02:59:57,633 --> 03:00:01,299
It sounds so crazy that I did
not even appreciate
4452
03:00:01,366 --> 03:00:02,733
that it was crazy
at the time,
4453
03:00:03,000 --> 03:00:06,033
because I just was like,
thank you, friend,
4454
03:00:06,333 --> 03:00:07,466
because I can't believe
anybody
4455
03:00:07,533 --> 03:00:09,033
would ever think I was
anti-Semitic.
4456
03:00:09,766 --> 03:00:12,666
Because that's, and so I
was so grateful.
4457
03:00:13,666 --> 03:00:16,033
And I thought she was like
using her contacts
4458
03:00:16,433 --> 03:00:18,733
and being, because the Simon
Wiesenthal Center
4459
03:00:18,799 --> 03:00:20,000
had issued this whatever,
4460
03:00:20,433 --> 03:00:22,200
and that she was coming
in to like,
4461
03:00:22,266 --> 03:00:23,466
basically tell them
it's not true.
4462
03:00:23,533 --> 03:00:24,200
I don't know what they were,
4463
03:00:24,266 --> 03:00:26,066
I didn't know what they were
saying, went away.
4464
03:00:28,533 --> 03:00:30,333
Now I'm like, was it like,
I'll handle this,
4465
03:00:30,700 --> 03:00:32,466
we've pulled them apart,
it's all good.
4466
03:00:32,766 --> 03:00:33,333
She's gonna come work
for me now.
4467
03:00:33,399 --> 03:00:34,333
Why do you think you
were targeted?
4468
03:00:34,833 --> 03:00:37,133
Why do you think you were
targeted to begin with?
4469
03:00:37,633 --> 03:00:42,933
I think there is, and
I'm fully in,
4470
03:00:43,533 --> 03:00:45,333
just reflecting on the way
things went down.
4471
03:00:45,600 --> 03:00:47,366
Erica came into Charlie's
life,
4472
03:00:47,733 --> 03:00:49,266
a bunch of people were
suddenly being put
4473
03:00:49,333 --> 03:00:50,433
in a turning point USA.
4474
03:00:51,033 --> 03:00:56,166
Girlfriend, the Stacey
Sheridan,
4475
03:00:56,366 --> 03:00:57,566
she's gonna raise more money
4476
03:00:57,633 --> 03:00:59,133
and take things to the
next level.
4477
03:00:59,399 --> 03:01:01,833
Andrew Colvet, you need
like real PR now.
4478
03:01:01,899 --> 03:01:03,700
I mean, just like all of
these characters,
4479
03:01:03,766 --> 03:01:06,700
like a Hollywood cast was
suddenly assembled.
4480
03:01:07,133 --> 03:01:09,799
And I think there was
a real panic
4481
03:01:09,866 --> 03:01:12,399
about the power of any
organization.
4482
03:01:12,466 --> 03:01:14,566
You hit a level and they
start paying attention.
4483
03:01:15,166 --> 03:01:20,066
And I think the Kanye tweet
put us on the map.
4484
03:01:20,133 --> 03:01:20,733
They started paying
attention.
4485
03:01:20,799 --> 03:01:23,200
This could be a very powerful
political organization.
4486
03:01:23,500 --> 03:01:25,266
We need to make sure that
it's within our control.
4487
03:01:25,633 --> 03:01:26,133
Gotcha.
4488
03:01:26,333 --> 03:01:29,899
And I was always--
4489
03:01:30,266 --> 03:01:32,133
And they presented you, PragerU
to control you.
4490
03:01:33,433 --> 03:01:35,833
That is my perspective
in retrospect.
4491
03:01:36,333 --> 03:01:38,433
And I did not have that perspective
while I was there.
4492
03:01:38,500 --> 03:01:39,833
And I also wanna make
it very clear,
4493
03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:41,700
I had a very good working
relationship there.
4494
03:01:42,366 --> 03:01:44,899
It was not, A, I will say
they were always honest
4495
03:01:44,966 --> 03:01:45,566
about who they were.
4496
03:01:46,299 --> 03:01:48,399
Like there's Iainess, Marissa's
former Mossad,
4497
03:01:48,666 --> 03:01:49,100
you know?
4498
03:01:50,433 --> 03:01:53,533
So they were never trying to
pretend that they had,
4499
03:01:53,700 --> 03:01:55,899
like they were open to a different
perspective on Israel
4500
03:01:55,966 --> 03:01:57,233
or anything like that,
or like anything.
4501
03:01:57,299 --> 03:01:58,500
They were upfront about
who they were
4502
03:01:58,566 --> 03:01:59,466
and what their priorities
were.
4503
03:01:59,766 --> 03:02:01,600
And Marissa was very kind.
4504
03:02:02,233 --> 03:02:04,566
Like if she was a handler,
she was damn good.
4505
03:02:04,633 --> 03:02:06,066
That's why she probably
was in the Mossad.
4506
03:02:06,333 --> 03:02:07,233
Like, you know what I mean?
4507
03:02:07,299 --> 03:02:09,766
Like the best kind of handlers
is one that's,
4508
03:02:10,866 --> 03:02:11,766
you think is your friend.
4509
03:02:12,833 --> 03:02:14,466
And she was there for
me through
4510
03:02:15,266 --> 03:02:17,166
a really tough personal time
in my life as well.
4511
03:02:17,899 --> 03:02:20,799
And so it was, that was a hard
relationship for me to mourn
4512
03:02:20,866 --> 03:02:24,000
in many ways because
I'm naturally,
4513
03:02:25,333 --> 03:02:27,366
you know, not looking, I
don't open up to people
4514
03:02:27,433 --> 03:02:29,333
about tough things that
I go through.
4515
03:02:29,766 --> 03:02:32,700
And she was there for me for
a really tough time.
4516
03:02:33,366 --> 03:02:34,766
We had a perfect working
relationship.
4517
03:02:34,833 --> 03:02:38,666
So I don't want people
to think that
4518
03:02:39,066 --> 03:02:42,000
because of where I'm at right
now, you go backwards
4519
03:02:42,066 --> 03:02:43,200
and you're like, oh, well
things were not, no.
4520
03:02:43,266 --> 03:02:44,933
It was like, they were
fantastic.
4521
03:02:45,000 --> 03:02:46,366
They ran very professionally.
4522
03:02:46,566 --> 03:02:47,600
I had a great relationship
with their,
4523
03:02:48,299 --> 03:02:50,433
even their COO, Lane,
Thrasher.
4524
03:02:50,700 --> 03:02:51,433
They were all just great.
4525
03:02:51,500 --> 03:02:52,100
I mean, I don't know
what to say.
4526
03:02:52,166 --> 03:02:55,100
I had a perfect, she never wanted
to talk about contracts.
4527
03:02:55,366 --> 03:02:57,366
She was like, if you don't
want to be here,
4528
03:02:57,500 --> 03:02:58,366
then you should go.
4529
03:02:58,466 --> 03:03:00,633
Like, it's not gonna work for
me to hold you here
4530
03:03:00,700 --> 03:03:01,500
like you're a prisoner.
4531
03:03:02,899 --> 03:03:03,600
I love to prager you.
4532
03:03:03,666 --> 03:03:04,100
It was great.
4533
03:03:06,100 --> 03:03:08,433
Did that for a couple
of years.
4534
03:03:08,500 --> 03:03:10,866
Then again, kind of like a
new season of life.
4535
03:03:12,066 --> 03:03:12,933
Had my first kid.
4536
03:03:13,899 --> 03:03:14,666
Now-- Hold on, hold on.
4537
03:03:14,733 --> 03:03:15,433
Let's go back.
4538
03:03:15,666 --> 03:03:16,600
How'd you meet your husband?
4539
03:03:17,733 --> 03:03:18,633
With Charlie.
4540
03:03:18,966 --> 03:03:21,633
This is a crazy story, but
the same exact week
4541
03:03:22,066 --> 03:03:24,466
that Charlie was having these
dreams about dying,
4542
03:03:25,299 --> 03:03:27,833
or where he was really deeply
talking to me about it.
4543
03:03:27,899 --> 03:03:29,666
I mean, he had the dreams over
and over again, he said,
4544
03:03:30,233 --> 03:03:31,366
from a time he signed with
Turning Point,
4545
03:03:31,433 --> 03:03:34,933
but he was like, it was a lot of
things happened that week.
4546
03:03:35,000 --> 03:03:37,700
One, by the end of the week,
Kanye tweeted me.
4547
03:03:38,399 --> 03:03:38,899
Okay.
4548
03:03:41,133 --> 03:03:46,966
Two, I had this over, and the
same way he was like,
4549
03:03:47,033 --> 03:03:47,666
I'm gonna die.
4550
03:03:47,899 --> 03:03:51,933
I was just like, we should go to,
we need to get to London.
4551
03:03:52,399 --> 03:03:53,366
We need to go to the UK.
4552
03:03:53,600 --> 03:03:54,100
No reason.
4553
03:03:54,166 --> 03:03:56,733
We had no reason, no rhyme or
reason to go to the UK.
4554
03:03:57,066 --> 03:03:58,833
And I just started hammering
him in April.
4555
03:03:59,133 --> 03:03:59,966
Being like, we need to
go to the UK,
4556
03:04:00,033 --> 03:04:01,000
we need to go to the UK, we
need to go to the UK.
4557
03:04:01,466 --> 03:04:03,000
June comes around, I'm sorry,
I'm hammering him,
4558
03:04:03,066 --> 03:04:03,799
we need to go to the UK.
4559
03:04:03,866 --> 03:04:04,633
He's like, for what?
4560
03:04:04,700 --> 03:04:06,366
And I'm just like, just make
up something to be there.
4561
03:04:06,433 --> 03:04:08,000
I just feel like pulled
to go to the UK.
4562
03:04:08,066 --> 03:04:09,966
I have the messages, it's so
crazy to read back.
4563
03:04:10,833 --> 03:04:15,066
And so eventually I am feeling
so pulled to go to the UK
4564
03:04:15,200 --> 03:04:16,866
that I say to him, give me
your credit card,
4565
03:04:16,933 --> 03:04:17,633
I'm just gonna book
the flights
4566
03:04:17,700 --> 03:04:19,933
because then you'll be forced
to just make a reason
4567
03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:21,033
for us to go to the UK.
4568
03:04:21,633 --> 03:04:22,066
And I did it.
4569
03:04:22,566 --> 03:04:24,799
And I had never done that,
never booked flights,
4570
03:04:24,866 --> 03:04:26,566
never taken his card.
4571
03:04:26,633 --> 03:04:28,433
And I was like, now we're
going to the UK,
4572
03:04:28,500 --> 03:04:30,000
so find something for
us to do.
4573
03:04:30,066 --> 03:04:31,633
And he was like, well, I've
been wanting to build out
4574
03:04:31,700 --> 03:04:33,166
Turning Point UK and kind
of build out
4575
03:04:33,233 --> 03:04:34,233
this international thing.
4576
03:04:34,700 --> 03:04:41,033
And so we were hosted by, who
are now dear friends to us,
4577
03:04:41,100 --> 03:04:42,566
John Mappin and Irina Mappin.
4578
03:04:42,700 --> 03:04:44,200
Charlie had been emailing
with them.
4579
03:04:44,733 --> 03:04:46,066
And they said, we'd love
to host you
4580
03:04:46,133 --> 03:04:47,633
because we need Turning
Point in the UK.
4581
03:04:48,333 --> 03:04:49,833
And I spoke.
4582
03:04:49,966 --> 03:04:53,766
This is also the same event that
they would eventually pull
4583
03:04:53,933 --> 03:04:56,200
the out of context comments
from.
4584
03:04:56,533 --> 03:04:57,933
So this is December.
4585
03:04:58,766 --> 03:05:01,333
And then they would pull
these comments
4586
03:05:01,399 --> 03:05:03,366
in March of the following
year.
4587
03:05:04,166 --> 03:05:06,299
And he got together
a great group
4588
03:05:06,466 --> 03:05:07,500
and I presented on stage
4589
03:05:07,566 --> 03:05:10,100
and my husband was in
the audience.
4590
03:05:11,100 --> 03:05:12,000
And I just sort of
looked at him
4591
03:05:12,066 --> 03:05:14,466
and so I was really cute.
4592
03:05:15,533 --> 03:05:15,600
(laughing)
4593
03:05:15,666 --> 03:05:16,833
So I was really cute.
4594
03:05:17,500 --> 03:05:19,500
And at the end he came up
to me and he said,
4595
03:05:19,566 --> 03:05:20,333
hi, I'm George Farmer.
4596
03:05:20,966 --> 03:05:22,933
And I was like, George Farmer
is pretty cute.
4597
03:05:23,600 --> 03:05:24,266
And that was it.
4598
03:05:25,133 --> 03:05:25,166
(laughing)
4599
03:05:25,266 --> 03:05:26,566
Never going to probably
see him again.
4600
03:05:27,466 --> 03:05:33,333
Next day I had a podcast,
Russell Burch,
4601
03:05:33,399 --> 03:05:35,966
Russell Brand, go out to
the countryside,
4602
03:05:36,033 --> 03:05:38,899
book the con, you know, as
much media as possible.
4603
03:05:39,399 --> 03:05:42,700
And then Russell Brand
like went over.
4604
03:05:42,766 --> 03:05:44,700
It was like three hours.
4605
03:05:45,233 --> 03:05:50,433
And my assistant somehow had a
miscommunication with PJW.
4606
03:05:50,666 --> 03:05:53,166
There was gonna be this Turning
Point UK launch dinner
4607
03:05:53,233 --> 03:05:54,433
where a bunch of political
players
4608
03:05:54,500 --> 03:05:55,533
were gonna be brought
to the room.
4609
03:05:56,066 --> 03:05:59,866
And PJW was supposed to be
unbeknownst to me.
4610
03:05:59,933 --> 03:06:00,466
I don't know if you know
who he is.
4611
03:06:00,533 --> 03:06:01,566
He's a YouTuber in the UK.
4612
03:06:03,299 --> 03:06:06,399
And I didn't, long
story short,
4613
03:06:06,466 --> 03:06:07,399
I didn't know this dinner
was happening.
4614
03:06:07,466 --> 03:06:09,033
Like it was not in me and
Charlie's calendar.
4615
03:06:09,100 --> 03:06:10,066
We had no idea it was
happening.
4616
03:06:10,133 --> 03:06:11,366
I was gonna go do Russell
Brand.
4617
03:06:11,433 --> 03:06:14,266
Charlie did some press down
there back in London.
4618
03:06:14,333 --> 03:06:15,033
I'm in the countryside.
4619
03:06:15,100 --> 03:06:18,133
And then we met back up to do
another media event.
4620
03:06:19,233 --> 03:06:21,466
I suddenly realized, I am
told by my assistant
4621
03:06:21,533 --> 03:06:23,600
that I'm running three hours
late to a dinner
4622
03:06:23,766 --> 03:06:24,899
that I didn't even know
it was happening.
4623
03:06:25,333 --> 03:06:28,466
So me and Charlie jump into
a taxi, book it,
4624
03:06:28,533 --> 03:06:31,733
and are like, Mike, like
who could,
4625
03:06:32,033 --> 03:06:33,299
important political players,
4626
03:06:33,366 --> 03:06:38,000
a nice small intimate dinner
of like maybe 18,
4627
03:06:38,133 --> 03:06:40,000
maybe even smaller, maybe
like 15 people.
4628
03:06:40,500 --> 03:06:42,700
And I walk into this dinner
4629
03:06:42,866 --> 03:06:45,633
and George Farmer is hosting
the dinner
4630
03:06:46,500 --> 03:06:49,066
because he wanted to get
behind Turning Point UK
4631
03:06:49,533 --> 03:06:51,833
because him and his father
were very involved
4632
03:06:51,899 --> 03:06:53,033
with Brexit at the time.
4633
03:06:53,533 --> 03:07:01,666
And his father was at one
time the treasurer
4634
03:07:01,799 --> 03:07:03,066
for the Tory party.
4635
03:07:03,133 --> 03:07:04,399
So they were involved
in politics.
4636
03:07:04,466 --> 03:07:06,966
And he just thought Turning
Point UK was a great idea.
4637
03:07:07,399 --> 03:07:08,766
And he was helping his
friend, PJW,
4638
03:07:08,833 --> 03:07:11,866
put together a little dinner
for Charlie in Canada.
4639
03:07:11,933 --> 03:07:14,033
And so we arrived three hours
late to this dinner
4640
03:07:14,433 --> 03:07:15,333
and George Farmer is there.
4641
03:07:16,433 --> 03:07:17,433
And I see him.
4642
03:07:17,500 --> 03:07:19,933
And at this point, because
his friends were like,
4643
03:07:20,000 --> 03:07:21,966
mate, are they even coming?
4644
03:07:22,799 --> 03:07:25,600
He's just plying everyone at
the table with alcohol
4645
03:07:25,666 --> 03:07:28,166
because like he's humiliated
that nobody's,
4646
03:07:28,633 --> 03:07:29,799
he doesn't know what's
happening
4647
03:07:29,866 --> 03:07:31,233
because he's not talking
to me.
4648
03:07:31,299 --> 03:07:32,333
He had no idea it was
happening.
4649
03:07:32,700 --> 03:07:33,566
So Charlie and I get there.
4650
03:07:33,633 --> 03:07:35,233
We don't, like, this is so
out of our character.
4651
03:07:35,299 --> 03:07:36,833
We would never show up
somewhere late.
4652
03:07:36,966 --> 03:07:38,233
I don't know where the
ball got dropped.
4653
03:07:38,299 --> 03:07:41,200
I blame PJW and so
does George.
4654
03:07:41,633 --> 03:07:44,366
And we immediately just went
around the table
4655
03:07:44,433 --> 03:07:45,666
and I just said, sorry to
every single person.
4656
03:07:45,733 --> 03:07:47,000
You know, obviously I had
to thank you.
4657
03:07:47,133 --> 03:07:47,733
Thank you for being here.
4658
03:07:48,433 --> 03:07:49,133
We sit down.
4659
03:07:49,200 --> 03:07:51,799
I sit down next to my husband,
future husband.
4660
03:07:52,200 --> 03:07:54,399
I tell you, I just looked
at his face
4661
03:07:54,466 --> 03:07:57,000
and I knew he was my, it was
the craziest thing.
4662
03:07:57,066 --> 03:07:58,233
I just knew he was
my husband.
4663
03:07:59,133 --> 03:08:00,500
And he didn't speak
to me barely
4664
03:08:00,633 --> 03:08:02,066
because he was thinking
the same thing.
4665
03:08:02,133 --> 03:08:04,366
Like he knew that I
was his wife
4666
03:08:04,833 --> 03:08:06,633
and had already texted
his friend
4667
03:08:06,700 --> 03:08:09,200
after hearing me speak
the night before.
4668
03:08:09,700 --> 03:08:12,933
And he wrote in writing, I'm going
to marry Candace Owens.
4669
03:08:13,500 --> 03:08:15,133
And his friend who was the
4670
03:08:15,200 --> 03:08:16,333
best man in our wedding
was like,
4671
03:08:16,966 --> 03:08:17,700
mate, you're an idiot.
4672
03:08:17,766 --> 03:08:22,299
Like, he read this at the
night before our dinner,
4673
03:08:22,366 --> 03:08:23,200
read the messages.
4674
03:08:23,266 --> 03:08:26,000
And it was the exact same thing
was happening for me.
4675
03:08:26,500 --> 03:08:28,899
And I'm saying to my
assistant,
4676
03:08:29,633 --> 03:08:30,500
George Farmer's my husband.
4677
03:08:30,833 --> 03:08:32,133
And we didn't say anything.
4678
03:08:32,200 --> 03:08:33,066
He was then too nervous.
4679
03:08:33,133 --> 03:08:36,366
So I spoke to his best
friend, Nick,
4680
03:08:36,433 --> 03:08:37,666
who was the best man
in our wedding.
4681
03:08:37,899 --> 03:08:39,033
He chatted with him the
whole time.
4682
03:08:39,100 --> 03:08:40,000
And I'm just sitting
here like, man,
4683
03:08:40,066 --> 03:08:41,166
I really want to talk to
this George Farmer.
4684
03:08:41,233 --> 03:08:42,200
He's just so cute.
4685
03:08:43,533 --> 03:08:46,133
And he said a couple
of words.
4686
03:08:46,899 --> 03:08:50,500
And then at the end, sent me
a message on WhatsApp
4687
03:08:50,566 --> 03:08:52,133
and said, thank you so much for
coming to church tonight.
4688
03:08:52,200 --> 03:08:54,033
And I was like, you should
4689
03:08:54,100 --> 03:08:56,433
come to the Student
Action Summit,
4690
03:08:56,700 --> 03:08:59,566
which is going to be next
week in Palm Beach.
4691
03:08:59,966 --> 03:09:01,799
Had no idea if he had
a girlfriend.
4692
03:09:02,566 --> 03:09:05,666
Was really hoping he didn't
because he was my husband.
4693
03:09:05,733 --> 03:09:06,966
So it'd be weird if he had
a girlfriend, right?
4694
03:09:08,966 --> 03:09:09,033
(both laughing)
4695
03:09:09,500 --> 03:09:10,799
It would be so weird if I
found out my husband
4696
03:09:10,866 --> 03:09:11,566
had a girlfriend.
4697
03:09:12,133 --> 03:09:16,466
And he flew over with a
girlfriend of his.
4698
03:09:16,833 --> 03:09:18,600
And the whole time I'm just
trying to figure out,
4699
03:09:18,666 --> 03:09:20,399
like we're doing sass, all
this is going on.
4700
03:09:20,466 --> 03:09:22,000
And we just kind of like put
them in our group.
4701
03:09:22,333 --> 03:09:23,433
And I'm just trying
to figure out
4702
03:09:23,500 --> 03:09:25,000
if those two are dating.
4703
03:09:25,066 --> 03:09:26,466
If my husband has a
girlfriend.
4704
03:09:26,899 --> 03:09:31,233
And there was this donor to
Turning Point USA.
4705
03:09:31,299 --> 03:09:33,733
I used to stay at her house
when we had an event
4706
03:09:33,799 --> 03:09:35,933
in Palm Beach and
she's older.
4707
03:09:36,000 --> 03:09:38,733
She was like 75 and she's
at the age where
4708
03:09:38,799 --> 03:09:39,866
they don't care what
they say.
4709
03:09:40,700 --> 03:09:44,100
And she's like, you two would
be so cute together.
4710
03:09:44,166 --> 03:09:45,266
And I'm sitting here like.
4711
03:09:47,466 --> 03:09:48,500
(both laughing) So I
did this thing.
4712
03:09:48,866 --> 03:09:50,200
I'm telling you, I've
never done this.
4713
03:09:50,266 --> 03:09:51,033
This is so funny.
4714
03:09:51,633 --> 03:09:56,399
And we had the event at, it
was at Mar-a-Lago.
4715
03:09:56,799 --> 03:09:57,799
I remember the dress
I was wearing.
4716
03:09:57,866 --> 03:10:00,833
And then he shows up wearing
like a cummer,
4717
03:10:00,966 --> 03:10:03,000
like I mean, English men in
their suits, right?
4718
03:10:03,066 --> 03:10:04,633
So he shows up in like
James Bond.
4719
03:10:04,733 --> 03:10:06,566
And I'm like, okay, everybody
stop.
4720
03:10:06,633 --> 03:10:07,366
That's my husband.
4721
03:10:07,433 --> 03:10:08,299
Like obviously.
4722
03:10:08,766 --> 03:10:11,066
Like in my head, I'm just
like, this is crazy.
4723
03:10:11,133 --> 03:10:12,966
Like if you, my husband in
a suit is just like,
4724
03:10:13,033 --> 03:10:15,366
okay, it just shuts everything,
shuts everything down.
4725
03:10:15,966 --> 03:10:19,466
And I'm just sitting here
and afterward,
4726
03:10:19,766 --> 03:10:22,200
and we had a conversation
and we just,
4727
03:10:22,266 --> 03:10:24,233
the conversation just
completely flowed.
4728
03:10:24,766 --> 03:10:26,200
We were actually talking
about Vladimir Putin,
4729
03:10:26,266 --> 03:10:27,033
which is really funny.
4730
03:10:28,100 --> 03:10:31,266
And we were talking
about planes
4731
03:10:31,333 --> 03:10:33,366
and overcharging for
suitcases.
4732
03:10:33,433 --> 03:10:36,366
And I'm still, now I'm
thinking like, okay,
4733
03:10:36,433 --> 03:10:37,399
I don't think he's dating
this girl.
4734
03:10:37,466 --> 03:10:39,333
Cause she was there and we
were kind of like,
4735
03:10:39,866 --> 03:10:41,399
you know, talking.
4736
03:10:42,333 --> 03:10:45,899
And so I went back to the
donor's house
4737
03:10:46,666 --> 03:10:49,366
and I was like, I am going
to message him
4738
03:10:49,799 --> 03:10:52,500
and see if he wants to
like meet up for,
4739
03:10:52,566 --> 03:10:54,266
what do you call it when you
have like a late night?
4740
03:10:54,899 --> 03:10:56,633
There's like a fancy
expression for it.
4741
03:10:56,700 --> 03:10:59,899
Like, you know, to have a
cocktail late night.
4742
03:10:59,966 --> 03:11:00,666
What do they say?
4743
03:11:01,033 --> 03:11:03,100
I don't know what people
call it.
4744
03:11:03,166 --> 03:11:04,799
There's a nice fancy way to
say it, whatever.
4745
03:11:05,133 --> 03:11:06,633
But I'm like, I'm gonna
text him.
4746
03:11:06,966 --> 03:11:08,666
Okay, here's how I'm gonna
figure it out.
4747
03:11:09,066 --> 03:11:12,600
I'm gonna text him and see if
he wants to meet up
4748
03:11:12,666 --> 03:11:15,700
in like the lobby of
the hotel.
4749
03:11:16,233 --> 03:11:17,133
And I'm gonna shoot my shot.
4750
03:11:17,366 --> 03:11:20,299
And if he answers, then
like, okay,
4751
03:11:20,366 --> 03:11:21,333
there was definitely
something there.
4752
03:11:21,399 --> 03:11:24,166
And if he doesn't answer,
then there was nothing.
4753
03:11:24,466 --> 03:11:24,833
Okay.
4754
03:11:25,333 --> 03:11:29,799
And he said, like, I saw
a text to him.
4755
03:11:29,866 --> 03:11:31,533
I just texted, I texted
my husband,
4756
03:11:31,833 --> 03:11:32,866
who I thought was my husband
in my head.
4757
03:11:34,100 --> 03:11:36,766
And I'm like, hey, like, do
you wanna go grab a,
4758
03:11:37,833 --> 03:11:38,866
there's a word for
it, whatever,
4759
03:11:40,666 --> 03:11:42,700
in the lobby or whatever
of the hotel.
4760
03:11:43,733 --> 03:11:44,666
No response.
4761
03:11:45,933 --> 03:11:46,700
No response.
4762
03:11:48,399 --> 03:11:51,733
Going backward and going
over this together,
4763
03:11:51,799 --> 03:11:53,633
he was like, I was just
knocked out sleeping.
4764
03:11:53,733 --> 03:11:54,833
Well, of course you're
4765
03:11:54,899 --> 03:11:56,433
thinking a thousand different
things.
4766
03:11:56,500 --> 03:11:59,100
And I'm like, oh my gosh, like,
no, he's dating that girl.
4767
03:11:59,166 --> 03:12:00,533
He's totally dating
that girl.
4768
03:12:00,600 --> 03:12:01,666
I'm an idiot.
4769
03:12:02,700 --> 03:12:06,233
And yeah, and so yeah,
I was like, okay,
4770
03:12:06,333 --> 03:12:08,399
he's gonna, and then
the next day
4771
03:12:08,466 --> 03:12:12,066
we went to the donor's
house again.
4772
03:12:12,133 --> 03:12:14,799
And she was just like, you guys
make such a cute couple.
4773
03:12:14,866 --> 03:12:16,333
And I was like getting
all these signs.
4774
03:12:16,399 --> 03:12:18,833
And then after he left,
he called me
4775
03:12:18,899 --> 03:12:21,666
and we talked on the phone
for like three hours.
4776
03:12:22,200 --> 03:12:24,033
And I was like, okay,
like, okay.
4777
03:12:24,166 --> 03:12:25,666
He didn't have a girlfriend,
the whole thing.
4778
03:12:25,733 --> 03:12:27,566
And then he told me, I
just fell asleep.
4779
03:12:27,633 --> 03:12:29,600
And I'm so sorry, I missed
the text message.
4780
03:12:30,033 --> 03:12:32,333
I was like, if you knew the
thought and the emotion
4781
03:12:32,399 --> 03:12:33,233
and everything that went
4782
03:12:33,299 --> 03:12:35,233
behind this, like, I
never do this.
4783
03:12:35,633 --> 03:12:37,533
I don't even, at the time, I didn't
even drink, by the way.
4784
03:12:37,633 --> 03:12:41,700
Like, I was just making up
an excuse to see him.
4785
03:12:41,766 --> 03:12:44,066
And it was just, he had,
he just passed out.
4786
03:12:44,133 --> 03:12:45,700
And I was like, he's probably
with that girl,
4787
03:12:45,766 --> 03:12:47,600
like all the girly emotions.
4788
03:12:48,200 --> 03:12:49,899
And none of that was
happening.
4789
03:12:49,966 --> 03:12:54,899
And so yeah, he, we then like spoke
every day on the phone.
4790
03:12:54,966 --> 03:12:55,899
Obviously he was back
in the UK.
4791
03:12:56,333 --> 03:12:59,533
And then he proposed to
me on a plane.
4792
03:13:01,733 --> 03:13:03,366
We hadn't even had our
first kiss.
4793
03:13:03,666 --> 03:13:04,566
So I'm one of the great--
4794
03:13:04,633 --> 03:13:05,666
Hadn't even had your
first kiss?
4795
03:13:05,733 --> 03:13:05,833
No.
4796
03:13:06,533 --> 03:13:07,100
How could we?
4797
03:13:07,633 --> 03:13:08,299
He was in the UK.
4798
03:13:08,366 --> 03:13:09,600
So I, he proposed to me.
4799
03:13:09,666 --> 03:13:10,933
People thought we were
totally insane.
4800
03:13:11,033 --> 03:13:12,566
His friends thought
he was insane.
4801
03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:14,233
Everyone thought I
was insane.
4802
03:13:14,733 --> 03:13:17,200
My sisters were like,
this is the most
4803
03:13:17,266 --> 03:13:18,766
Candace thing I've ever
heard, ever.
4804
03:13:19,066 --> 03:13:22,833
So wait, how much time from
you met him to--
4805
03:13:22,933 --> 03:13:23,466
Engagement?
4806
03:13:23,533 --> 03:13:24,500
Engagement. 18 days.
4807
03:13:24,633 --> 03:13:25,966
18 days?
4808
03:13:26,833 --> 03:13:27,600
Wow.
4809
03:13:28,066 --> 03:13:29,399
How long have you guys
been married now?
4810
03:13:29,600 --> 03:13:30,266
Seven years.
4811
03:13:30,533 --> 03:13:31,433
Seven years.
4812
03:13:31,766 --> 03:13:34,066
Seven years, baby number
five on the way.
4813
03:13:34,299 --> 03:13:35,233
Congratulations.
4814
03:13:35,299 --> 03:13:35,866
Thank you.
4815
03:13:37,033 --> 03:13:40,600
Yeah, so it was, I can't even
explain the poll
4816
03:13:40,700 --> 03:13:41,633
that pulled me to the UK.
4817
03:13:42,299 --> 03:13:44,799
And when I saw him, I don't
know if I dreamed it.
4818
03:13:44,866 --> 03:13:46,299
I mean, some things are just
so metaphysical.
4819
03:13:46,366 --> 03:13:48,299
We don't understand the world
and the way it works.
4820
03:13:48,633 --> 03:13:51,000
But I know, I knew it was my
husband and I was right.
4821
03:13:51,133 --> 03:13:52,233
So everyone was wrong.
4822
03:13:52,399 --> 03:13:53,799
I was like, no, that's
obviously my husband.
4823
03:13:53,866 --> 03:13:55,833
Like I have no like, and the
way that I describe
4824
03:13:55,899 --> 03:13:58,799
how I felt, and I will be such
a hypocrite by the way,
4825
03:13:58,866 --> 03:14:00,533
in the future when my
daughter pulls this,
4826
03:14:00,600 --> 03:14:02,066
she'll be about to marry.
4827
03:14:02,266 --> 03:14:04,166
I feel like my daughter someday
is gonna watch this episode
4828
03:14:04,233 --> 03:14:05,566
and she's like, you and
dad fell in love.
4829
03:14:06,266 --> 03:14:07,633
When you're watching
and you're 20,
4830
03:14:07,700 --> 03:14:09,233
however old you are, Louise,
4831
03:14:09,500 --> 03:14:10,899
you're not allowed to meet
any guy like this.
4832
03:14:10,966 --> 03:14:12,233
You're not allowed to get
married after 18 days.
4833
03:14:15,000 --> 03:14:15,799
This only applies for me.
4834
03:14:15,866 --> 03:14:16,666
I'm gonna be a total
hypocrite.
4835
03:14:17,566 --> 03:14:19,966
The only way that I can describe
the way I felt
4836
03:14:20,033 --> 03:14:21,733
is it felt like a sigh
of relief.
4837
03:14:22,733 --> 03:14:25,966
Like, there he is.
4838
03:14:26,633 --> 03:14:28,366
Like, everything's gonna
be okay now.
4839
03:14:28,500 --> 03:14:29,033
He's there.
4840
03:14:30,466 --> 03:14:32,399
What's the secret to a
successful marriage?
4841
03:14:33,866 --> 03:14:36,433
Gosh, the secret to a
successful marriage.
4842
03:14:41,433 --> 03:14:47,799
I feel in some ways I have been
just so blessed by God
4843
03:14:47,866 --> 03:14:49,600
to just have a really
easy marriage.
4844
03:14:49,666 --> 03:14:51,166
Cause I hear, you know,
4845
03:14:51,233 --> 03:14:52,933
everyone wants to know what
the secret is.
4846
03:14:53,000 --> 03:14:55,899
And I think it's, the secret
is loving the person
4847
03:14:55,966 --> 03:14:58,633
you married, like genuinely
enjoying them,
4848
03:14:58,700 --> 03:15:03,066
like genuinely being
fascinated by them.
4849
03:15:04,533 --> 03:15:06,666
Like wanting to aspire
to them,
4850
03:15:06,733 --> 03:15:09,733
wanting to know them every
layer of them
4851
03:15:09,799 --> 03:15:11,733
and wanting to learn
from them.
4852
03:15:11,899 --> 03:15:14,233
Having just like a deep
reverence
4853
03:15:14,299 --> 03:15:15,500
for the person that you're
marrying,
4854
03:15:15,566 --> 03:15:18,799
like aside from just being giddy
and in love with them.
4855
03:15:18,866 --> 03:15:21,733
And I'm totally obsessed
with my husband.
4856
03:15:21,799 --> 03:15:23,166
I just genuinely am.
4857
03:15:23,533 --> 03:15:25,000
And that's the best feeling
in the world.
4858
03:15:25,066 --> 03:15:27,433
I feel like I cheated in life
somehow like that.
4859
03:15:27,600 --> 03:15:30,966
I just got to marry the
person of my dreams
4860
03:15:31,033 --> 03:15:32,833
who wears a suit like
James Bond.
4861
03:15:32,899 --> 03:15:37,566
Like I'm just like, he's just
perfect in every way.
4862
03:15:37,666 --> 03:15:40,966
And the best thing is just
to see who he became
4863
03:15:41,533 --> 03:15:47,433
after we had kids, like men,
you unlock something.
4864
03:15:49,266 --> 03:15:52,100
And I'm sure it comes
from, I'm a dad.
4865
03:15:52,200 --> 03:15:53,200
You know what I mean?
4866
03:15:53,333 --> 03:15:55,033
Wow, I gotta figure this
thing out.
4867
03:15:55,633 --> 03:15:57,566
And we have a lot of boys.
4868
03:15:57,666 --> 03:16:02,600
So I think there's even more
pressure applied
4869
03:16:02,666 --> 03:16:06,333
of I now need to be the model
of the father.
4870
03:16:06,399 --> 03:16:07,333
I'm a father.
4871
03:16:08,899 --> 03:16:10,600
What kind of a father
do I wanna be?
4872
03:16:10,666 --> 03:16:12,100
Because that's gonna
impact my boys.
4873
03:16:12,166 --> 03:16:14,333
And he loves his dad.
4874
03:16:14,966 --> 03:16:18,766
And I think he felt the pressure
of wanting to be
4875
03:16:19,033 --> 03:16:20,399
who his dad was to him.
4876
03:16:21,133 --> 03:16:24,733
And this pressure just created
a diamond, you know?
4877
03:16:25,166 --> 03:16:28,899
So he has just, I'm just
amazed at him.
4878
03:16:28,966 --> 03:16:30,966
Like he's just, my husband's
good at everything too.
4879
03:16:31,033 --> 03:16:34,366
It's one of those people who
has a brain for everything.
4880
03:16:34,433 --> 03:16:35,233
I know what I'm good at.
4881
03:16:35,299 --> 03:16:36,533
I'm good at communication.
4882
03:16:36,766 --> 03:16:37,700
I'm good at writing.
4883
03:16:37,766 --> 03:16:39,333
I understand marketing.
4884
03:16:39,399 --> 03:16:42,433
But he can just learn any
subject in a day
4885
03:16:42,500 --> 03:16:45,799
and then suddenly fully
comprehend it.
4886
03:16:45,866 --> 03:16:47,966
I mean, you could talk to my
husband about any subject.
4887
03:16:48,033 --> 03:16:48,766
It's unbelievable.
4888
03:16:49,233 --> 03:16:52,633
So I, I don't know, I
just adore him.
4889
03:16:52,700 --> 03:16:56,200
I think that's kind of the secret
is adoring the person.
4890
03:16:57,566 --> 03:17:00,399
It's been really easy for us,
which sounds crazy
4891
03:17:00,466 --> 03:17:05,399
because on the external, it's
like a constant hurricane,
4892
03:17:05,633 --> 03:17:07,033
a constant tornado.
4893
03:17:07,433 --> 03:17:10,966
But to see, especially
during the year
4894
03:17:11,033 --> 03:17:13,500
of the Daily Wire stuff, how
he just built it.
4895
03:17:14,700 --> 03:17:17,266
It's like understood the
whole, never podcasted,
4896
03:17:17,533 --> 03:17:20,133
understood it, did the ads, redid
the contracts, you know?
4897
03:17:20,500 --> 03:17:21,799
All right, gotta figure this
out, whatever.
4898
03:17:21,866 --> 03:17:24,366
And just, I could have never
survived that year
4899
03:17:24,433 --> 03:17:25,166
without my husband.
4900
03:17:26,200 --> 03:17:27,166
Wow. Yeah.
4901
03:17:28,100 --> 03:17:28,866
He's a genius.
4902
03:17:28,966 --> 03:17:30,100
He really is. And baby
number five's
4903
03:17:30,166 --> 03:17:30,600
on the way.
4904
03:17:30,733 --> 03:17:33,466
Five, just been in a constant
state of pregnancy.
4905
03:17:34,600 --> 03:17:35,799
Like an elephant.
4906
03:17:35,866 --> 03:17:37,033
Elephants are pregnant
for two years.
4907
03:17:37,100 --> 03:17:39,933
I feel like I've just been
pregnant for a long time,
4908
03:17:40,000 --> 03:17:42,433
but I'm blessed with very
easy pregnancies.
4909
03:17:42,500 --> 03:17:44,666
And we didn't realize
how much,
4910
03:17:44,733 --> 03:17:46,366
we were gonna love being
parents too.
4911
03:17:46,433 --> 03:17:48,666
Like that was something
that surprised us.
4912
03:17:49,366 --> 03:17:51,799
You hear so much about
marriage.
4913
03:17:51,866 --> 03:17:53,233
Be careful when you
get married.
4914
03:17:53,299 --> 03:17:58,566
And I feel like there's so
much nonsense out there.
4915
03:17:58,633 --> 03:18:00,700
Like you're walking a plank
or something.
4916
03:18:00,766 --> 03:18:03,566
And I feel like my life began
when I got married
4917
03:18:03,633 --> 03:18:05,133
and when I had kids
and we just,
4918
03:18:05,666 --> 03:18:07,233
our kids are just the best.
4919
03:18:07,299 --> 03:18:08,266
Or my kids are awesome.
4920
03:18:08,466 --> 03:18:12,733
Like, I mean, they're so
funny and they're kind
4921
03:18:12,799 --> 03:18:15,000
and they're so smart.
4922
03:18:15,133 --> 03:18:16,333
And I know I sound like
I'm biased,
4923
03:18:16,399 --> 03:18:17,966
but I really do have
the best kids.
4924
03:18:18,033 --> 03:18:19,000
Someone has to have
them, right?
4925
03:18:19,066 --> 03:18:20,566
Someone has to have the
best and it's me.
4926
03:18:21,766 --> 03:18:21,799
(laughing)
4927
03:18:21,866 --> 03:18:24,000
And we just love it.
4928
03:18:24,066 --> 03:18:25,433
We love being parents.
4929
03:18:26,700 --> 03:18:28,233
The happiness that
comes from it
4930
03:18:28,866 --> 03:18:30,466
and the security that
comes from it.
4931
03:18:30,533 --> 03:18:31,899
Like they're getting security
from you,
4932
03:18:31,966 --> 03:18:33,866
but you're getting real
security from them
4933
03:18:33,933 --> 03:18:35,799
and realizing suddenly
what matters.
4934
03:18:35,866 --> 03:18:37,033
It changes everything.
4935
03:18:37,433 --> 03:18:39,933
And I laugh at that younger
Candace who's like,
4936
03:18:40,466 --> 03:18:42,600
whoa, this person retweeted
me.
4937
03:18:42,666 --> 03:18:43,866
That's the goal.
4938
03:18:43,933 --> 03:18:46,033
Whoa, I'm gonna do this
show tonight.
4939
03:18:46,233 --> 03:18:48,633
And now it's how fast
can I get home?
4940
03:18:50,500 --> 03:18:52,700
So and so did this today,
like texting each other,
4941
03:18:52,766 --> 03:18:55,399
like the stories of like
little conversations
4942
03:18:55,466 --> 03:18:58,566
that watching children contend
with the world
4943
03:18:58,633 --> 03:19:04,133
and try to reason and the
oversimplification,
4944
03:19:04,200 --> 03:19:07,600
the beauty of the oversimplification
of a child's mind.
4945
03:19:08,133 --> 03:19:10,299
It's so special.
4946
03:19:10,366 --> 03:19:11,100
It really is.
4947
03:19:11,166 --> 03:19:14,000
And now I get to work
from home
4948
03:19:14,100 --> 03:19:15,733
because thank you,
Daily Wire.
4949
03:19:16,533 --> 03:19:19,299
The blessing of that.
4950
03:19:19,366 --> 03:19:21,733
One thing I wasn't expecting
to hear today
4951
03:19:21,799 --> 03:19:24,200
is a thank you to the Daily
Wire from Candace Owens.
4952
03:19:24,266 --> 03:19:26,666
I owe them so much.
4953
03:19:27,666 --> 03:19:32,233
I owe them so much for
ripping the carpet
4954
03:19:32,299 --> 03:19:35,500
from under my feet in the most
glorious way possible.
4955
03:19:35,566 --> 03:19:37,533
I mean, God is always
looking out.
4956
03:19:37,933 --> 03:19:41,866
I look back on that and you
just don't doubt
4957
03:19:41,933 --> 03:19:42,899
what God's doing.
4958
03:19:42,966 --> 03:19:44,633
Things that you're like,
why, why, why?
4959
03:19:44,700 --> 03:19:46,600
Well, you're not meant to
know right now, Candace.
4960
03:19:46,666 --> 03:19:48,100
And then God just showing me
4961
03:19:48,600 --> 03:19:51,433
that he just was throwing
me a lifeboat.
4962
03:19:52,533 --> 03:19:54,433
Now's a good time to get
out of there.
4963
03:19:56,100 --> 03:19:58,466
So I have no regrets.
4964
03:19:59,500 --> 03:20:00,133
Good for you.
4965
03:20:00,799 --> 03:20:01,266
Good for you.
4966
03:20:02,000 --> 03:20:04,299
You brought up, I think
it's Brexit.
4967
03:20:05,033 --> 03:20:05,833
What is Brexit?
4968
03:20:06,399 --> 03:20:09,433
Well, Brexit is what I was building
alongside Charlie
4969
03:20:09,500 --> 03:20:11,133
when I was really focused
on wanting
4970
03:20:11,200 --> 03:20:14,399
to motivate black people to wake
up the Democrat party.
4971
03:20:14,833 --> 03:20:17,399
And so that kind of happened
in Kanye season.
4972
03:20:17,466 --> 03:20:19,666
And then when I realized
I did
4973
03:20:19,733 --> 03:20:20,866
not want to do not-for-profit
4974
03:20:21,333 --> 03:20:24,766
and I loved podcasting, which
I got to do with PragerU,
4975
03:20:26,000 --> 03:20:28,566
I sold Brexit back to Turning
Point USA
4976
03:20:29,166 --> 03:20:30,500
because I also just couldn't
do that all.
4977
03:20:30,566 --> 03:20:33,233
Like I was having, after
4978
03:20:33,299 --> 03:20:34,466
getting married and being
pregnant,
4979
03:20:34,533 --> 03:20:36,200
I was like, I don't want to
do not-for-profit
4980
03:20:36,266 --> 03:20:38,333
and do a podcast and do
all of this stuff.
4981
03:20:38,966 --> 03:20:40,899
So it allowed me to focus
on podcasting,
4982
03:20:40,966 --> 03:20:42,266
which I just found
a knack for.
4983
03:20:42,333 --> 03:20:44,766
I really love conversing with
people and communicating.
4984
03:20:44,833 --> 03:20:48,733
And I've got my dream job,
so to speak right now
4985
03:20:48,799 --> 03:20:50,066
because I get to do
it for myself.
4986
03:20:50,466 --> 03:20:52,166
And you did that with
Brandon Tatum?
4987
03:20:52,666 --> 03:20:54,133
Is that the former police
officer?
4988
03:20:55,200 --> 03:20:56,033
Are you guys still tight?
4989
03:20:56,899 --> 03:20:58,533
You know, Brandon, I
always say is,
4990
03:20:58,933 --> 03:20:59,799
he's like a brother to me.
4991
03:20:59,866 --> 03:21:01,666
And I think it's that same
coming of age thing.
4992
03:21:01,899 --> 03:21:02,433
He was there.
4993
03:21:03,299 --> 03:21:06,866
Brandon, me, Charlie, doing
stuff together,
4994
03:21:06,933 --> 03:21:07,833
building something.
4995
03:21:08,333 --> 03:21:11,266
We obviously have very strong
disagreements
4996
03:21:11,333 --> 03:21:15,633
on Zionism and Israel and how
Charlie Kirk died.
4997
03:21:15,700 --> 03:21:23,366
And I need to be able to sit
down face to face with him,
4998
03:21:23,633 --> 03:21:26,266
which has been hard just because
we're on opposite sides
4999
03:21:26,500 --> 03:21:26,899
of the cut.
5000
03:21:26,966 --> 03:21:28,266
And we've spoken on the
phone a few times,
5001
03:21:28,333 --> 03:21:30,200
but like then he's got, I was
having a dinner and like,
5002
03:21:30,266 --> 03:21:35,833
you know, I have a very, very
strict policy about
5003
03:21:35,933 --> 03:21:37,566
when you have a real relationship
with somebody,
5004
03:21:38,866 --> 03:21:40,299
doing stuff for the public.
5005
03:21:40,866 --> 03:21:43,933
And there's a lot that I need
to talk to Brandon about.
5006
03:21:44,000 --> 03:21:46,233
You know, I need to try to
understand where he's at.
5007
03:21:46,733 --> 03:21:47,866
And I'm sure he feels
the same way.
5008
03:21:48,566 --> 03:21:49,366
Well, it's good to hear.
5009
03:21:49,633 --> 03:21:49,933
Yeah.
5010
03:21:51,433 --> 03:21:54,166
It's good to hear that somebody
can disagree with you
5011
03:21:55,033 --> 03:21:56,066
and still be friends.
5012
03:21:56,766 --> 03:21:58,700
Well, it was just a real
relationship, you know?
5013
03:21:58,766 --> 03:22:00,966
And like, you know, my family
loves Brandon.
5014
03:22:01,366 --> 03:22:03,299
Like, so it's,
5015
03:22:04,333 --> 03:22:07,333
you, I think you're less
of a person
5016
03:22:07,466 --> 03:22:11,333
when you allow politics to decide
who you're friends with.
5017
03:22:12,133 --> 03:22:15,433
And I have felt that test
real close to the fire
5018
03:22:15,500 --> 03:22:18,500
with the Kanye stuff, what
Daily Wire put me through
5019
03:22:18,566 --> 03:22:20,666
behind the scenes, wanting
me to like,
5020
03:22:20,766 --> 03:22:22,333
make a public statement
about him.
5021
03:22:23,533 --> 03:22:24,799
And I didn't do it.
5022
03:22:25,733 --> 03:22:27,233
And they took millions
away from me.
5023
03:22:27,433 --> 03:22:30,466
You know, they literally had
money on the table.
5024
03:22:31,333 --> 03:22:31,899
What do you mean?
5025
03:22:33,366 --> 03:22:34,600
It's actually one of the
funniest things
5026
03:22:34,666 --> 03:22:36,866
because the former CEO has
5027
03:22:36,933 --> 03:22:38,799
just been on like a
podcast tour,
5028
03:22:38,866 --> 03:22:42,633
just making up, like it's almost
fantasy stories about me,
5029
03:22:42,700 --> 03:22:44,533
but I guess no one wants to book
him unless he does it.
5030
03:22:44,866 --> 03:22:45,766
Jeremy Boring?
5031
03:22:45,933 --> 03:22:47,933
Yeah, it's been the most
pathetic thing.
5032
03:22:48,000 --> 03:22:48,766
I don't even reply anymore
5033
03:22:48,833 --> 03:22:50,633
because everyone in the comments
is just like you are.
5034
03:22:50,799 --> 03:22:56,466
I'll tell you, like some of my
favorite recent past times
5035
03:22:56,899 --> 03:23:01,266
are hearing the stories
of Jeremy Boring
5036
03:23:01,333 --> 03:23:03,166
and Daily Wire with a
baseball bat,
5037
03:23:03,700 --> 03:23:05,033
getting hair and makeup done.
5038
03:23:05,399 --> 03:23:06,166
That's all true.
5039
03:23:07,033 --> 03:23:07,366
Yeah.
5040
03:23:07,466 --> 03:23:09,666
Because he wasn't even
on camera, right?
5041
03:23:09,733 --> 03:23:09,933
No.
5042
03:23:10,600 --> 03:23:13,500
And he would get his hair and
makeup out every day.
5043
03:23:13,666 --> 03:23:16,033
Yeah, that is all 1000% true.
5044
03:23:16,533 --> 03:23:17,799
Any stories you hear
about him,
5045
03:23:18,333 --> 03:23:20,366
as loony as it sounds, it's
all very real.
5046
03:23:20,700 --> 03:23:22,533
He was a total nutcase.
5047
03:23:22,600 --> 03:23:23,866
It's like I was telling
you at breakfast
5048
03:23:23,933 --> 03:23:25,000
when I hear the story,
5049
03:23:25,066 --> 03:23:26,566
I don't wanna mention
anybody's names
5050
03:23:26,633 --> 03:23:28,033
because I don't wanna throw
anybody out of the bus,
5051
03:23:28,100 --> 03:23:32,466
but it sounds like the 90s movie,
"The Office Space."
5052
03:23:33,166 --> 03:23:33,866
It's like a sitcom.
5053
03:23:33,933 --> 03:23:34,933
Like identical.
5054
03:23:35,266 --> 03:23:36,166
It is a sitcom.
5055
03:23:36,366 --> 03:23:36,966
It's weird.
5056
03:23:37,033 --> 03:23:38,799
Like you look back on it and
you're just sort of,
5057
03:23:39,200 --> 03:23:40,399
and everyone will tell you.
5058
03:23:40,466 --> 03:23:42,133
I mean, they're just, this
is what he did.
5059
03:23:42,200 --> 03:23:44,866
He'd come in and have people
wash his hair plugs
5060
03:23:44,933 --> 03:23:48,899
and do his makeup and style
him to be the CEO,
5061
03:23:48,966 --> 03:23:51,433
just to go into his office
and be the CEO.
5062
03:23:51,500 --> 03:23:54,366
Everywhere I go, people are talking
about Jeremy Boring
5063
03:23:54,433 --> 03:23:58,033
and Ben Shapiro because suddenly,
right around Nashville,
5064
03:23:58,100 --> 03:23:59,433
there's all these unemployed
5065
03:23:59,500 --> 03:24:01,100
daily wire people running
around.
5066
03:24:01,266 --> 03:24:02,533
And they're fucking pissed.
5067
03:24:02,733 --> 03:24:03,966
Yeah, because it didn't
have to.
5068
03:24:04,033 --> 03:24:05,366
And they're talking a lot.
5069
03:24:05,433 --> 03:24:05,933
Yeah.
5070
03:24:06,399 --> 03:24:07,533
It's like.
5071
03:24:07,700 --> 03:24:09,933
Because it didn't have to be
like that, I think also.
5072
03:24:10,000 --> 03:24:12,666
And it's, he just ran
it like a cult.
5073
03:24:12,733 --> 03:24:13,566
It was very strange.
5074
03:24:13,633 --> 03:24:15,066
I mean, he's just not a real
person, I guess,
5075
03:24:15,133 --> 03:24:15,466
is the best way.
5076
03:24:15,533 --> 03:24:16,266
He's a character.
5077
03:24:16,333 --> 03:24:17,533
It's like a cartoon
character.
5078
03:24:18,366 --> 03:24:20,433
But one of the funniest re-imaginations
is like,
5079
03:24:20,500 --> 03:24:21,633
because no one wants
to book him,
5080
03:24:21,700 --> 03:24:22,433
he has nothing to talk about.
5081
03:24:22,500 --> 03:24:23,266
He has no talent.
5082
03:24:24,299 --> 03:24:27,133
He sort of does this thing
where he's just been like
5083
03:24:27,200 --> 03:24:29,200
on a year tour of my worst
5084
03:24:29,266 --> 03:24:31,166
regret is like hiring
Candace Owens.
5085
03:24:31,433 --> 03:24:32,799
And yeah, it's all he
can talk about.
5086
03:24:32,866 --> 03:24:35,633
I can't believe the shit they
pulled with Brett Cooper.
5087
03:24:35,966 --> 03:24:36,399
Oh yeah.
5088
03:24:37,033 --> 03:24:39,600
Like what was, how old was Brett
when she left there?
5089
03:24:39,666 --> 03:24:40,333
Like fucking.
5090
03:24:40,833 --> 03:24:41,266
21, 22?
5091
03:24:41,666 --> 03:24:41,966
Yeah.
5092
03:24:42,166 --> 03:24:42,366
Yeah.
5093
03:24:42,600 --> 03:24:47,100
You treat a 21 year old
woman, girl like that.
5094
03:24:47,433 --> 03:24:49,533
What the fuck is your
problem, man?
5095
03:24:49,600 --> 03:24:50,600
She wanted to leave.
5096
03:24:50,866 --> 03:24:51,799
How do you leave a cult?
5097
03:24:51,933 --> 03:24:53,233
We gotta destroy you
on the way out.
5098
03:24:53,600 --> 03:24:57,166
I mean, they would just fucking
torment her every day.
5099
03:24:57,666 --> 03:24:58,866
Every fucking day.
5100
03:24:59,333 --> 03:25:01,866
I hope, I'm assuming she
opened up to you
5101
03:25:03,100 --> 03:25:05,766
about what went on legally.
5102
03:25:06,033 --> 03:25:06,600
I mean.
5103
03:25:07,833 --> 03:25:08,533
Somebody did.
5104
03:25:08,633 --> 03:25:10,100
Jeremy did that personally.
5105
03:25:10,166 --> 03:25:11,299
I mean, he's vicious.
5106
03:25:11,366 --> 03:25:13,333
He's like, he's, you know,
closeted gay man.
5107
03:25:14,399 --> 03:25:17,500
And he is extraordinarily
vicious.
5108
03:25:18,066 --> 03:25:21,166
So to see him try to sort of
reintroduce himself.
5109
03:25:22,433 --> 03:25:24,100
When I hear the story about,
5110
03:25:25,066 --> 03:25:26,799
I don't know if it was the
day after you left
5111
03:25:26,866 --> 03:25:29,233
or when you got fired
or whatever.
5112
03:25:31,733 --> 03:25:34,533
And they had everybody come
out and they're like,
5113
03:25:34,899 --> 03:25:36,033
nobody fucking cheer.
5114
03:25:36,433 --> 03:25:38,233
And then they come out and
everybody cheers like,
5115
03:25:38,299 --> 03:25:39,299
shut up, stop cheer.
5116
03:25:39,366 --> 03:25:40,233
Yeah, no clapping.
5117
03:25:40,299 --> 03:25:41,666
I've heard this for
three now.
5118
03:25:41,966 --> 03:25:43,399
Everyone was like, it was
totally nutty.
5119
03:25:43,466 --> 03:25:45,466
But if you know Jeremy,
that's Jeremy.
5120
03:25:45,533 --> 03:25:46,899
He always has to build
a stage
5121
03:25:46,966 --> 03:25:49,700
and give a performance of everything,
including a firing.
5122
03:25:49,766 --> 03:25:53,366
Like it's like, it's totally,
it is a sitcom.
5123
03:25:53,466 --> 03:25:55,666
I think they ran around and
took everybody's phones
5124
03:25:55,733 --> 03:25:56,833
and shit too, maybe.
5125
03:25:57,100 --> 03:26:00,866
They made them keep their
phones at their desks.
5126
03:26:00,933 --> 03:26:02,866
And it was described to me
5127
03:26:02,933 --> 03:26:05,000
like an episode of Arrested
Development.
5128
03:26:05,600 --> 03:26:07,566
He like had the stylist
coming out
5129
03:26:07,633 --> 03:26:09,533
and like matching his shirt
to the lights.
5130
03:26:09,933 --> 03:26:12,266
It's totally wacky, but all
the stories are real.
5131
03:26:12,333 --> 03:26:13,500
This is how he ran
the company.
5132
03:26:13,566 --> 03:26:15,266
It was just right into the
ground, by the way.
5133
03:26:15,333 --> 03:26:17,500
I should add, but it's funny
to reflect on
5134
03:26:17,566 --> 03:26:18,899
because he's just, he's
so irrelevant now.
5135
03:26:18,966 --> 03:26:19,633
It doesn't even matter.
5136
03:26:19,700 --> 03:26:21,766
So we just kind of all
share stories
5137
03:26:21,833 --> 03:26:24,433
about this wacky person who
pretended to be a CEO
5138
03:26:24,500 --> 03:26:27,533
for a while, just desperately
wants to be famous.
5139
03:26:27,600 --> 03:26:29,700
And he'll, he doesn't
have it.
5140
03:26:29,833 --> 03:26:31,266
You know, you just don't have
it buddy, you know.
5141
03:26:32,933 --> 03:26:35,433
I love watching people that
treat people like that
5142
03:26:35,500 --> 03:26:36,866
just get fucking destroyed.
5143
03:26:37,833 --> 03:26:38,799
Destroyed.
5144
03:26:38,933 --> 03:26:40,733
Yeah, because you need
friends.
5145
03:26:40,799 --> 03:26:42,766
He'll never do anything
big ever again.
5146
03:26:43,333 --> 03:26:43,933
And he knows that.
5147
03:26:44,166 --> 03:26:46,533
Which is why his new show
on the road is.
5148
03:26:46,600 --> 03:26:49,166
Oh, he has a new show called
On the Road.
5149
03:26:49,233 --> 03:26:53,666
No, but basically he just books
media to talk about me.
5150
03:26:53,733 --> 03:26:54,766
It's bonkers.
5151
03:26:55,100 --> 03:26:56,799
And how I'm the worst decision
he ever made.
5152
03:26:56,866 --> 03:27:00,166
And obviously the public sees
that for what it is.
5153
03:27:00,233 --> 03:27:01,266
It's just pathetic.
5154
03:27:01,333 --> 03:27:06,133
And, but he reimagined
me too.
5155
03:27:06,200 --> 03:27:08,866
So he pretends he had, because
why are they gonna book him?
5156
03:27:08,933 --> 03:27:10,133
Like they, nobody wants
to book him.
5157
03:27:10,666 --> 03:27:11,799
And so he says, well,
you know,
5158
03:27:11,866 --> 03:27:14,100
Candace once told me a
secret, like a secret
5159
03:27:14,366 --> 03:27:17,100
that she would do anything
for money.
5160
03:27:17,166 --> 03:27:18,833
That's how he tried to launch
his podcast.
5161
03:27:19,033 --> 03:27:20,566
Saying that I told him I would
do anything for money.
5162
03:27:21,000 --> 03:27:24,466
And it's the literal
exact opposite
5163
03:27:24,533 --> 03:27:25,899
of what happened at the
Daily Wire.
5164
03:27:25,966 --> 03:27:29,433
It's like the exact opposite
experience you had for me.
5165
03:27:29,833 --> 03:27:33,966
When Kanye tweeted Def Con
3 or whatever,
5166
03:27:34,033 --> 03:27:34,600
I had nothing to do with it.
5167
03:27:34,666 --> 03:27:35,533
I wasn't there when
he tweeted it.
5168
03:27:35,600 --> 03:27:36,133
I wasn't with him.
5169
03:27:36,200 --> 03:27:37,366
But because I was friends
with him,
5170
03:27:37,633 --> 03:27:39,866
this was like the cancellation
of Kanye.
5171
03:27:40,066 --> 03:27:41,233
They were putting pressure
on me
5172
03:27:41,299 --> 03:27:42,466
to make a statement
about him.
5173
03:27:42,933 --> 03:27:43,566
And I didn't do it.
5174
03:27:43,633 --> 03:27:44,366
And I didn't want to do it.
5175
03:27:44,433 --> 03:27:47,333
And it led to a moment where
I was brought
5176
03:27:47,399 --> 03:27:48,866
into a conference room and
my husband was there.
5177
03:27:48,933 --> 03:27:53,633
And both of the co-CEOs, it was
Jeremy and Caleb Robinson,
5178
03:27:53,700 --> 03:27:56,266
who's a bit, he's more serious
of a person than Jeremy.
5179
03:27:58,200 --> 03:27:59,766
We're yelling in a conference
room,
5180
03:27:59,833 --> 03:28:02,033
like, why won't you just say
this and make it easy?
5181
03:28:02,100 --> 03:28:04,600
Don't you understand like the
pressure that it puts on Ben
5182
03:28:05,200 --> 03:28:09,433
and like his network of people
who feel threatened
5183
03:28:09,500 --> 03:28:10,066
to do this or whatever.
5184
03:28:10,133 --> 03:28:12,466
And I refused to do it.
5185
03:28:12,566 --> 03:28:14,566
I said, you know, I think you
guys reflect on this.
5186
03:28:14,766 --> 03:28:16,633
Most people see me as like
a formidable enemy,
5187
03:28:16,899 --> 03:28:18,333
but I'm a more formidable
friend.
5188
03:28:18,733 --> 03:28:20,566
I'm not going to step on his
head while he's drowning.
5189
03:28:20,633 --> 03:28:23,600
And so Jeremy basically
said, okay,
5190
03:28:23,666 --> 03:28:24,533
well, here's what we're
going to do.
5191
03:28:24,600 --> 03:28:25,933
We need to build trust
with you.
5192
03:28:26,233 --> 03:28:28,033
So I had signed a, I want to
5193
03:28:28,100 --> 03:28:29,166
say it was a seven year
contract.
5194
03:28:29,233 --> 03:28:31,200
I could go back and get the
exact specs of it.
5195
03:28:31,500 --> 03:28:33,100
And we were like two years
into the contract
5196
03:28:33,166 --> 03:28:33,799
or something like that.
5197
03:28:34,266 --> 03:28:38,133
And they shaved off like five
years of my contract.
5198
03:28:38,433 --> 03:28:42,633
I lost millions of guaranteed
dollars.
5199
03:28:43,233 --> 03:28:44,433
And they basically were like,
5200
03:28:44,600 --> 03:28:46,333
or you could just say a
statement about Kanye.
5201
03:28:47,433 --> 03:28:49,033
Didn't do it, took the
money back.
5202
03:28:50,533 --> 03:28:53,933
And so it was the exact opposite
experience you had with me
5203
03:28:54,433 --> 03:28:56,299
that I would not say things
for money.
5204
03:28:56,833 --> 03:28:59,100
And I have the whole, what's
so wacky is like,
5205
03:28:59,166 --> 03:29:01,066
I have the whole email chain.
5206
03:29:01,133 --> 03:29:03,100
It's like, this all happened
with lawyers.
5207
03:29:03,399 --> 03:29:05,500
They changed the contract,
the negotiations,
5208
03:29:05,566 --> 03:29:06,399
all of this stuff.
5209
03:29:06,666 --> 03:29:08,666
And I was penalized for
what Kanye said.
5210
03:29:08,733 --> 03:29:10,633
What Kanye tweeted cost me
millions of dollars.
5211
03:29:11,899 --> 03:29:13,533
And zero regrets.
5212
03:29:14,266 --> 03:29:15,333
That's not the person I am.
5213
03:29:15,600 --> 03:29:17,200
I won't say things for money.
5214
03:29:17,266 --> 03:29:20,899
I cannot be made to dance
for money.
5215
03:29:21,533 --> 03:29:23,466
And I think that frustrated
them,
5216
03:29:24,433 --> 03:29:25,600
that deeply frustrated them.
5217
03:29:25,666 --> 03:29:26,966
I have to believe what
I'm saying.
5218
03:29:27,233 --> 03:29:28,799
And so even if I get
things wrong,
5219
03:29:29,466 --> 03:29:31,133
and of course I get things wrong
because I'm a human,
5220
03:29:32,566 --> 03:29:35,299
I am never intentionally
lying
5221
03:29:35,633 --> 03:29:37,433
or telling people something
5222
03:29:37,500 --> 03:29:40,066
because somebody is funding
me to say it.
5223
03:29:41,066 --> 03:29:45,133
I genuinely was wrong about my
prior positions on Israel.
5224
03:29:45,366 --> 03:29:46,933
Or I was genuinely just
not educated.
5225
03:29:47,333 --> 03:29:48,799
And I was okay with it.
5226
03:29:48,866 --> 03:29:51,033
I genuinely had no idea what
was going on in Palestine.
5227
03:29:51,633 --> 03:29:53,633
The moment I became educated
about what was happening
5228
03:29:53,700 --> 03:29:55,333
when it became a hot
button issue.
5229
03:29:55,399 --> 03:29:56,500
And I was like, let me focus
5230
03:29:56,566 --> 03:29:57,899
and see what this is
actually about.
5231
03:29:58,933 --> 03:30:00,533
I picked the right side and I
5232
03:30:00,600 --> 03:30:01,866
spoke out and I said
something.
5233
03:30:01,933 --> 03:30:05,200
And again, ended up costing
me a job.
5234
03:30:05,600 --> 03:30:09,166
So like, I was making good
money at the Daily Wire.
5235
03:30:09,700 --> 03:30:11,933
I had no job that I was
jumping onto.
5236
03:30:12,066 --> 03:30:13,500
So to go around and say that
5237
03:30:13,566 --> 03:30:15,133
Candace will say anything
for money,
5238
03:30:15,533 --> 03:30:16,666
you literally fired me
5239
03:30:16,733 --> 03:30:18,133
because I wouldn't say
anything for money.
5240
03:30:18,700 --> 03:30:23,566
So it's really weird to sort
of see him try
5241
03:30:23,633 --> 03:30:27,899
to like rewrite who I am, but
it's also an effectual.
5242
03:30:27,966 --> 03:30:30,433
So he's just a cartoon
character.
5243
03:30:30,733 --> 03:30:31,366
Jeez.
5244
03:30:31,466 --> 03:30:33,666
What was it that eventually
did get you,
5245
03:30:34,299 --> 03:30:35,700
did you get fired or
did you quit?
5246
03:30:35,766 --> 03:30:36,366
I got fired.
5247
03:30:36,700 --> 03:30:37,833
The stage was built,
remember?
5248
03:30:38,266 --> 03:30:39,466
And it was a production.
5249
03:30:39,533 --> 03:30:40,299
They put together a video.
5250
03:30:41,066 --> 03:30:41,566
A video.
5251
03:30:41,666 --> 03:30:44,366
They put a fucking video to
get access to it.
5252
03:30:44,833 --> 03:30:46,733
Well, eventually Jeremy
posted it.
5253
03:30:46,799 --> 03:30:47,766
Cause I think he thought
people were gonna go,
5254
03:30:47,833 --> 03:30:48,733
wow, you're amazing.
5255
03:30:49,033 --> 03:30:50,433
It's out, it's on the
internet?
5256
03:30:50,500 --> 03:30:53,600
Yeah, you can watch it of
how he presented.
5257
03:30:53,666 --> 03:30:55,700
So all these fucking stories
that I've heard
5258
03:30:55,766 --> 03:30:57,866
about the day you got fired
in the presentation,
5259
03:30:57,933 --> 03:30:59,233
I can actually go watch it.
5260
03:30:59,299 --> 03:31:01,399
Yeah, I think Steven Crowder
released it or something.
5261
03:31:01,466 --> 03:31:04,433
I think it got released
somehow.
5262
03:31:05,533 --> 03:31:07,133
You know we're putting that
in your preview.
5263
03:31:07,200 --> 03:31:07,766
You have to.
5264
03:31:07,833 --> 03:31:12,100
I mean, it was totally, they played
like one of the reasons
5265
03:31:12,166 --> 03:31:13,466
they listed for my firing.
5266
03:31:13,566 --> 03:31:17,266
Cause it was basically a
thousand different ways
5267
03:31:17,333 --> 03:31:18,333
that you've been
anti-Semitic.
5268
03:31:18,899 --> 03:31:22,166
They, meaning the PR person
at Daily Wire,
5269
03:31:22,399 --> 03:31:27,166
told me to go on this show
that had a DJ
5270
03:31:27,399 --> 03:31:28,799
that just makes sound
effects.
5271
03:31:29,233 --> 03:31:34,333
And when me and the person were
speaking about Ben Shapiro,
5272
03:31:34,666 --> 03:31:37,100
a sound of a cash register
went off.
5273
03:31:37,666 --> 03:31:39,033
And they thought that
that was
5274
03:31:39,100 --> 03:31:41,166
like pre-planned
anti-Semitism.
5275
03:31:42,366 --> 03:31:44,100
The Kaching sound effect.
5276
03:31:45,200 --> 03:31:47,233
Oh wow.
5277
03:31:49,299 --> 03:31:50,366
One of the reasons
I got fired.
5278
03:31:50,700 --> 03:31:51,733
Are you serious?
5279
03:31:51,799 --> 03:31:55,733
A random show playing a Kaching
cash register sound.
5280
03:31:55,866 --> 03:31:57,766
I mean, the whole show,
but actually,
5281
03:31:58,033 --> 03:32:00,000
I think actually I was told
that it was a money
5282
03:32:00,066 --> 03:32:01,066
that came in actually.
5283
03:32:01,133 --> 03:32:02,066
Cause they have a live.
5284
03:32:02,133 --> 03:32:03,366
It's the Shopify sound.
5285
03:32:03,433 --> 03:32:06,000
Yeah, like it was like a live thing
where it's a live show.
5286
03:32:06,066 --> 03:32:07,466
So there's so many sounds,
they have a DJ.
5287
03:32:08,066 --> 03:32:11,166
I mean, I couldn't have told
you that this happened.
5288
03:32:11,233 --> 03:32:14,066
And the whole time there's a
cash register sound going,
5289
03:32:14,700 --> 03:32:17,166
but also the sound went off when
we were talking about Ben.
5290
03:32:17,233 --> 03:32:20,299
And so that was listed as a
reason for my firing.
5291
03:32:23,033 --> 03:32:23,799
How did they do it?
5292
03:32:24,033 --> 03:32:25,033
Did they come, did they?
5293
03:32:25,133 --> 03:32:26,000
It was just an email.
5294
03:32:26,066 --> 03:32:27,666
I was about to hit the stage
at Turning Point USA
5295
03:32:28,633 --> 03:32:30,366
cause I was on tour as I
always am with them.
5296
03:32:30,766 --> 03:32:33,500
And so I was juggling both
and I just got an email
5297
03:32:34,033 --> 03:32:35,866
and they listed, I think
it was like,
5298
03:32:38,366 --> 03:32:40,666
I want to say it was 30 pages
5299
03:32:41,299 --> 03:32:43,133
or it could have been
30 reasons.
5300
03:32:43,233 --> 03:32:47,033
And I actually laughed when
I was reading it
5301
03:32:47,100 --> 03:32:48,933
cause it was so crazy.
5302
03:32:49,333 --> 03:32:51,333
Like it was like so
far beyond
5303
03:32:51,399 --> 03:32:52,700
how they could interpret
it as a sound.
5304
03:32:52,766 --> 03:32:56,166
That only a person who
was in a sitcom
5305
03:32:56,233 --> 03:32:57,033
could have come up with this.
5306
03:32:57,233 --> 03:32:58,799
I was shocked they put
it in writing.
5307
03:32:59,299 --> 03:33:00,833
That was my, cause first
I was like,
5308
03:33:00,899 --> 03:33:02,066
whoa, what am I doing
five for?
5309
03:33:02,133 --> 03:33:05,433
And then as they started listing
the reasons that things,
5310
03:33:05,500 --> 03:33:09,733
like the first three pages
were Nick Fuentes.
5311
03:33:10,633 --> 03:33:11,299
It was just Nick Fuentes.
5312
03:33:11,433 --> 03:33:12,700
I've never spoken to
Nick Fuentes.
5313
03:33:12,766 --> 03:33:14,899
I spoke to him literally one
time prior to that.
5314
03:33:14,966 --> 03:33:15,933
You didn't even get
along, do you?
5315
03:33:16,000 --> 03:33:18,266
No, but they had a whole
conspiracy
5316
03:33:18,333 --> 03:33:20,533
that I was secretly working
with Nick Fuentes
5317
03:33:21,333 --> 03:33:23,633
and Tucker Carlson to bring
down the Daily Wire.
5318
03:33:24,033 --> 03:33:25,166
And they brought me into
the office
5319
03:33:25,233 --> 03:33:27,366
and questioned me about that
close to the end.
5320
03:33:27,433 --> 03:33:28,166
And I was like, I don't know
5321
03:33:28,233 --> 03:33:29,166
what you guys are talking
about.
5322
03:33:29,233 --> 03:33:32,266
Like there was a mental
unwellness
5323
03:33:32,333 --> 03:33:33,533
that was happening at
that company.
5324
03:33:33,799 --> 03:33:35,633
Was Tucker even independent
at that time?
5325
03:33:35,700 --> 03:33:36,633
He had just gone independent.
5326
03:33:36,700 --> 03:33:37,500
So I think this is what,
5327
03:33:37,566 --> 03:33:41,500
like they have a very severe
obsession with Tucker.
5328
03:33:41,766 --> 03:33:43,566
That was apparent to me when
I was the company.
5329
03:33:44,000 --> 03:33:45,133
Like, I mean, I don't
know what it is.
5330
03:33:45,200 --> 03:33:46,299
There's something
about Tucker
5331
03:33:46,533 --> 03:33:48,933
that Jeremy and Ben are very
obsessed with.
5332
03:33:49,000 --> 03:33:51,000
And I don't know if it's
because he's just cool.
5333
03:33:52,966 --> 03:33:53,733
There's an envy.
5334
03:33:54,233 --> 03:33:56,833
And they had convinced
themselves
5335
03:33:56,899 --> 03:33:59,500
that I was somehow working
behind the scenes
5336
03:33:59,833 --> 03:34:02,066
to bring down the Daily Wire
to go work for Tucker.
5337
03:34:02,133 --> 03:34:03,799
And that's because that's what
they did to Breitbart.
5338
03:34:03,966 --> 03:34:05,200
So they were accusing me
5339
03:34:05,533 --> 03:34:08,366
of what they had done to a
company prior, right?
5340
03:34:08,433 --> 03:34:10,066
They had quietly been
building Daily Wire.
5341
03:34:10,133 --> 03:34:11,466
They then created a scandal,
5342
03:34:11,866 --> 03:34:13,500
a fake scandal with Michelle
Fields.
5343
03:34:13,566 --> 03:34:14,866
And then they took
all of the,
5344
03:34:15,033 --> 03:34:17,433
all of Breitbart's subscribers
with them.
5345
03:34:18,433 --> 03:34:19,433
What was the fake scandal?
5346
03:34:21,000 --> 03:34:24,266
The Michelle Fields, like
Corey Lewandowski hit me
5347
03:34:24,333 --> 03:34:25,000
and I was bruised.
5348
03:34:25,700 --> 03:34:27,600
That whole scandal,
as I was told,
5349
03:34:27,666 --> 03:34:30,299
was thought up by Ben Shapiro
and his best friend
5350
03:34:30,366 --> 03:34:32,466
who was Michelle Fields' husband,
Jamie Weinstein,
5351
03:34:33,466 --> 03:34:34,799
to help them launch
Daily Wire.
5352
03:34:35,466 --> 03:34:37,600
So this is-- What a
fucking turd.
5353
03:34:37,766 --> 03:34:39,566
This is the story
of Big Beth.
5354
03:34:40,233 --> 03:34:41,733
Yeah, this is the story
of Beth.
5355
03:34:41,799 --> 03:34:43,066
You go around killing people
5356
03:34:43,366 --> 03:34:45,333
and then you're paranoid that someone's
trying to kill you.
5357
03:34:45,866 --> 03:34:47,100
I was eight months pregnant.
5358
03:34:47,166 --> 03:34:48,366
I'm a very loyal person,
5359
03:34:48,433 --> 03:34:49,799
even if you don't deserve
my loyalty.
5360
03:34:49,866 --> 03:34:51,033
If I'm working for
your company,
5361
03:34:51,266 --> 03:34:52,266
I'm working for your company.
5362
03:34:52,466 --> 03:34:53,833
I'm not trying to snipe you.
5363
03:34:53,899 --> 03:34:55,833
I'm not doing, it's just,
it's not my personality.
5364
03:34:55,899 --> 03:34:56,466
I'll just quit.
5365
03:34:56,566 --> 03:34:57,100
You know what I mean?
5366
03:34:57,766 --> 03:34:58,933
And they brought me
into an office
5367
03:34:59,000 --> 03:35:02,033
and questioned me about this
Tucker Carlson conspiracy.
5368
03:35:02,299 --> 03:35:06,433
And they asked me if I, they,
he told me explicitly
5369
03:35:06,500 --> 03:35:09,233
that they thought that I was
working with Nick Fuentes.
5370
03:35:09,733 --> 03:35:11,166
And I just was so confused.
5371
03:35:11,233 --> 03:35:13,600
I thought someone's gone--
5372
03:35:14,600 --> 03:35:16,333
How much time did you have
at the Daily Wire?
5373
03:35:17,200 --> 03:35:18,100
Left or--
5374
03:35:18,166 --> 03:35:19,733
How much, no, just
all together?
5375
03:35:20,833 --> 03:35:23,066
Was I there for three years,
I think, I think.
5376
03:35:23,133 --> 03:35:25,799
How long did this happen after
the Kanye incident
5377
03:35:25,866 --> 03:35:26,866
where they wanted you to--
5378
03:35:26,933 --> 03:35:29,700
It was the following, it was kind
of exactly a year later.
5379
03:35:30,633 --> 03:35:33,366
And so, but it was right after
October 7th is when
5380
03:35:33,433 --> 03:35:34,600
they got super wacky.
5381
03:35:35,033 --> 03:35:38,100
And I think they were wanting
me to kind of like
5382
03:35:38,166 --> 03:35:40,166
pledge allegiance to Israel
publicly.
5383
03:35:40,233 --> 03:35:41,299
And I just wasn't gonna
do that.
5384
03:35:41,366 --> 03:35:43,533
And so it became an issue.
5385
03:35:43,799 --> 03:35:45,933
They had financial pressure
because Jeremy was
5386
03:35:47,066 --> 03:35:50,000
doing Pendragon, which cost
them over $60 million.
5387
03:35:50,466 --> 03:35:52,733
The reports will not have been
completely inaccurate
5388
03:35:52,799 --> 03:35:56,466
of how much that passion
project of Jeremy's
5389
03:35:57,333 --> 03:35:58,266
harmed the company.
5390
03:35:58,766 --> 03:36:02,100
And he was just, there's only
way to describe him
5391
03:36:02,166 --> 03:36:03,899
is maniacal, anybody who
works at Daily Wire
5392
03:36:03,966 --> 03:36:04,500
will tell you that.
5393
03:36:04,866 --> 03:36:07,266
He was just utterly maniacal
and he's obsessive.
5394
03:36:08,366 --> 03:36:12,366
And so, yeah, they built
the state.
5395
03:36:12,566 --> 03:36:14,066
By the way, when I sat
down with them,
5396
03:36:15,000 --> 03:36:17,266
like a week prior to
them firing me,
5397
03:36:17,666 --> 03:36:19,533
and we had hashed things out
when they had said to me,
5398
03:36:19,600 --> 03:36:21,000
well, we thought you were
secretly plotting.
5399
03:36:21,066 --> 03:36:22,866
And I was like, this is
mental and wellness.
5400
03:36:23,233 --> 03:36:26,500
And I said, look, if post
October 7th,
5401
03:36:27,399 --> 03:36:29,733
things have changed, like I
obviously understand
5402
03:36:29,799 --> 03:36:31,366
this is Ben's a partner
of the company,
5403
03:36:31,833 --> 03:36:33,066
and you guys want
to separate,
5404
03:36:33,866 --> 03:36:35,899
let me and Ben talk to each
other like human beings.
5405
03:36:36,100 --> 03:36:36,933
I'm happy to do that.
5406
03:36:38,100 --> 03:36:40,200
I'm happy to do like, you
don't spend three years
5407
03:36:40,266 --> 03:36:41,600
to company and want things
to end badly.
5408
03:36:41,666 --> 03:36:43,766
So I presented Jeremy
with that option
5409
03:36:44,633 --> 03:36:45,966
of me just leaving
peacefully.
5410
03:36:46,100 --> 03:36:49,366
I was, we can figure out
how to unwind,
5411
03:36:49,433 --> 03:36:52,500
issue a nice statement, but Jeremy
has a flair for drama.
5412
03:36:52,566 --> 03:36:55,766
He has to build a stage,
he has to do it.
5413
03:36:56,133 --> 03:36:57,633
He has to make it over
the top.
5414
03:36:58,033 --> 03:37:00,833
And so they hatched this
remarkable plan
5415
03:37:00,899 --> 03:37:04,500
to Christ as king, is
antisemitic.
5416
03:37:05,500 --> 03:37:07,000
Did they really say that?
5417
03:37:08,133 --> 03:37:09,600
I mean, don't get offended,
5418
03:37:09,766 --> 03:37:12,033
but I always thought you kind
of manufactured that.
5419
03:37:12,200 --> 03:37:12,633
Oh no.
5420
03:37:13,133 --> 03:37:15,833
Andrew Clavin did a full
episode entitled
5421
03:37:16,233 --> 03:37:18,066
like Christ is King after we
5422
03:37:18,133 --> 03:37:19,233
announced that I was
separated.
5423
03:37:19,299 --> 03:37:23,266
And he just like completely
disparaged me for an hour,
5424
03:37:23,333 --> 03:37:24,033
Andrew Clavin.
5425
03:37:24,433 --> 03:37:26,066
And I was so shocked because
we had signed
5426
03:37:26,133 --> 03:37:29,233
a non-disparagement and their
lawyers came back
5427
03:37:30,366 --> 03:37:32,333
and were essentially like
jokes on you,
5428
03:37:32,399 --> 03:37:33,933
tricky contract clause.
5429
03:37:34,266 --> 03:37:36,899
We said that none of
the talent,
5430
03:37:37,000 --> 03:37:40,100
none of the employees would
disparage you,
5431
03:37:40,166 --> 03:37:42,299
but Andrew Clavin isn't
actually an employee,
5432
03:37:42,366 --> 03:37:43,466
he's a contractor.
5433
03:37:43,899 --> 03:37:47,733
So they had plotted to sign
this agreement,
5434
03:37:47,799 --> 03:37:48,466
we go all separate ways,
5435
03:37:48,533 --> 03:37:50,000
but then they were gonna
allow Andrew Clavin
5436
03:37:50,066 --> 03:37:51,633
to publicly say something
and then said,
5437
03:37:51,700 --> 03:37:52,733
I couldn't say anything back.
5438
03:37:53,466 --> 03:37:57,733
And, but it backfired because
they did this during Lent.
5439
03:37:58,500 --> 03:38:01,166
And people watched the episode
and went, what?
5440
03:38:01,233 --> 03:38:02,333
(laughing)
5441
03:38:02,766 --> 03:38:05,799
And so then, so this gets
even better.
5442
03:38:06,066 --> 03:38:10,200
So then it backfires, my hands
just tied behind my back,
5443
03:38:10,266 --> 03:38:11,033
I can't say anything,
5444
03:38:11,899 --> 03:38:16,399
but they still, because they
lost tens of thousands
5445
03:38:16,466 --> 03:38:19,533
of subscribers to Andrew
Clavin doing an episode
5446
03:38:20,299 --> 03:38:22,200
calling me anti-Semitic over
Christ is King,
5447
03:38:23,566 --> 03:38:28,066
they then sued me for them
attacking me.
5448
03:38:28,433 --> 03:38:30,066
So Jeremy, which is
really funny
5449
03:38:30,133 --> 03:38:31,566
because a couple of days ago,
5450
03:38:31,633 --> 03:38:34,700
he went on to Patrick
Bat-David and said,
5451
03:38:34,766 --> 03:38:37,866
we had the most subscribers
ever after Candace left.
5452
03:38:38,066 --> 03:38:40,733
You literally sued me and
I have the documents
5453
03:38:40,933 --> 03:38:43,100
of your sworn affidavit
saying the opposite.
5454
03:38:43,899 --> 03:38:46,633
The way he lies, he's
just maniacal,
5455
03:38:46,700 --> 03:38:47,733
you can't even make it up.
5456
03:38:48,700 --> 03:38:51,433
But he sued me and said
that they lost
5457
03:38:51,500 --> 03:38:52,600
tens of thousands of dollars,
5458
03:38:52,933 --> 03:38:54,566
I mean, tens of thousands
of subscribers,
5459
03:38:54,933 --> 03:38:55,566
literally that's what I said,
5460
03:38:55,633 --> 03:38:56,533
tens of thousands of
5461
03:38:56,600 --> 03:38:58,133
subscribers over the Christ
is King thing,
5462
03:38:58,333 --> 03:39:00,866
which caused their company
financial harm.
5463
03:39:01,133 --> 03:39:04,100
They sued me for their attack
on me backfiring.
5464
03:39:05,399 --> 03:39:07,533
Try to work that out.
Wow, wow.
5465
03:39:08,000 --> 03:39:10,133
And their evidence of why it
was actually my fault
5466
03:39:10,200 --> 03:39:13,133
was because I couldn't say anything
about Andrew Clavin,
5467
03:39:13,200 --> 03:39:16,933
but Jeremy then stalked my
likes on Twitter.
5468
03:39:17,566 --> 03:39:20,733
And people that were defending
me, I was liking the tweets.
5469
03:39:21,000 --> 03:39:22,299
He brought that into
court and said,
5470
03:39:22,366 --> 03:39:23,466
the likes are disparaging.
5471
03:39:23,899 --> 03:39:24,966
Does this shit hold up?
5472
03:39:25,666 --> 03:39:26,933
They ended up eventually,
5473
03:39:27,266 --> 03:39:29,666
let me tell you the blessing
of the way God works.
5474
03:39:31,166 --> 03:39:32,766
So we were being sued,
5475
03:39:32,966 --> 03:39:34,833
they wanted millions of
dollars for my likes,
5476
03:39:34,899 --> 03:39:36,299
literally my likes
on Twitter.
5477
03:39:36,766 --> 03:39:39,166
And so basically they were
gonna get every bit
5478
03:39:39,233 --> 03:39:40,933
that we agreed to walk away.
5479
03:39:41,266 --> 03:39:42,933
And I wanted them to pay me
out what was due.
5480
03:39:44,799 --> 03:39:46,733
And they were figured they'd
just claw it in court
5481
03:39:46,799 --> 03:39:49,000
because Jeremy's a homosexual
psychopath
5482
03:39:49,066 --> 03:39:50,633
and he will like focus
on that.
5483
03:39:50,899 --> 03:39:54,233
And they were like trying
to tell the judge
5484
03:39:54,799 --> 03:39:57,000
that likes amount to
disparagement.
5485
03:39:57,633 --> 03:39:59,966
And a blessing occurs.
5486
03:40:00,433 --> 03:40:01,833
You cannot make this up
5487
03:40:01,899 --> 03:40:03,733
because they are like cartoon
characters.
5488
03:40:04,799 --> 03:40:05,933
My lawyer gets a call
5489
03:40:06,000 --> 03:40:07,966
and I wanna say it was Labor
Day weekend.
5490
03:40:08,033 --> 03:40:10,133
It might've been what would
be before Labor Day.
5491
03:40:11,000 --> 03:40:12,000
I feel like it was sometime
in August,
5492
03:40:12,066 --> 03:40:13,066
but I feel like it was Labor
Day weekend.
5493
03:40:13,133 --> 03:40:16,066
And my lawyer on the case
was like in a bar.
5494
03:40:16,500 --> 03:40:17,933
He had had a couple of beers
5495
03:40:18,466 --> 03:40:21,899
and he said he comes out and
like Daily Wire's lawyer
5496
03:40:21,966 --> 03:40:24,166
calls him and he's like freaking
out on the phone.
5497
03:40:24,666 --> 03:40:28,266
And he's like, she pulled
her contract.
5498
03:40:28,333 --> 03:40:30,333
She pulled her contract and
you knew blah, blah.
5499
03:40:30,766 --> 03:40:32,866
And my lawyer is like, dude,
what are you talking about?
5500
03:40:33,633 --> 03:40:34,600
Like, you mean she pulled
her contract?
5501
03:40:34,666 --> 03:40:35,799
You guys fired her.
5502
03:40:36,833 --> 03:40:38,566
And he's like, you're gonna
pretend you don't know.
5503
03:40:38,733 --> 03:40:42,299
And my lawyer Rob was like,
what happened?
5504
03:40:42,366 --> 03:40:43,166
Like what did Candace do?
5505
03:40:43,233 --> 03:40:43,966
Like what happened?
5506
03:40:44,500 --> 03:40:46,333
And he's like, we're talking
about Brett.
5507
03:40:47,399 --> 03:40:50,700
So these geniuses thought that
I had something to do
5508
03:40:50,966 --> 03:40:53,266
with Brett pulling
her contract.
5509
03:40:53,633 --> 03:40:55,000
And they were the ones
who told me
5510
03:40:55,500 --> 03:40:56,733
Brett pulled her contract.
5511
03:40:57,000 --> 03:40:57,866
Oh, it was brilliant.
5512
03:40:57,966 --> 03:40:59,066
The whole thing was
just amazing.
5513
03:40:59,166 --> 03:41:01,566
So I had no idea that Brett
had done this obviously
5514
03:41:01,633 --> 03:41:02,700
because I had nothing
to do with it.
5515
03:41:03,600 --> 03:41:05,633
And she pulled her contract.
5516
03:41:05,866 --> 03:41:07,000
And then they, because they
5517
03:41:07,066 --> 03:41:09,033
were so in their conspiracy
mind,
5518
03:41:09,266 --> 03:41:10,200
thought I had something
to do with it.
5519
03:41:10,266 --> 03:41:11,399
Their lawyer then informed me
5520
03:41:11,466 --> 03:41:12,466
that Brett pulled her
contract.
5521
03:41:12,533 --> 03:41:13,933
And so that's how I found out
5522
03:41:14,000 --> 03:41:15,033
that Brett was leaving
the Daily Wire
5523
03:41:15,600 --> 03:41:16,466
from their own lawyer.
5524
03:41:17,333 --> 03:41:19,033
How long after you left
to Brett leave?
5525
03:41:19,600 --> 03:41:20,833
Brett, but she ended up,
5526
03:41:21,033 --> 03:41:23,700
it ended up saving me in this
court thing the first time.
5527
03:41:23,766 --> 03:41:25,233
They ended up suing me again
and then Brett again.
5528
03:41:25,299 --> 03:41:26,899
It was nonstop lawsuits
all the time.
5529
03:41:27,799 --> 03:41:30,666
But because Brett, it was such
a shock to everyone,
5530
03:41:30,733 --> 03:41:32,299
myself included, they then
5531
03:41:32,366 --> 03:41:34,033
suddenly had like a
two front war.
5532
03:41:34,100 --> 03:41:34,566
You know what I mean?
5533
03:41:34,633 --> 03:41:36,033
Like they're fighting
me in court.
5534
03:41:36,333 --> 03:41:39,299
And then suddenly like Jeremy
was gonna put Brett
5535
03:41:39,366 --> 03:41:40,633
in a torture chamber.
5536
03:41:41,566 --> 03:41:45,033
And they, I guess, decided
to just,
5537
03:41:45,200 --> 03:41:48,799
for the first lawsuit, we
decided to agree
5538
03:41:48,866 --> 03:41:50,500
and walk away, but then they
found another reason
5539
03:41:50,566 --> 03:41:51,466
to sue me again.
5540
03:41:51,833 --> 03:41:54,166
And that was because
I saw Red
5541
03:41:54,233 --> 03:41:56,399
when I saw them doing what
they did to me to Brett.
5542
03:41:56,466 --> 03:41:57,733
They were gonna, they tried
the same thing.
5543
03:41:57,799 --> 03:41:58,966
They were gonna go with
anti-Semitism.
5544
03:41:59,799 --> 03:42:01,166
Brett Cooper, I mean, this
5545
03:42:01,233 --> 03:42:03,033
girl does like pop culture
videos.
5546
03:42:03,600 --> 03:42:04,866
And, but it's tried and true.
5547
03:42:04,933 --> 03:42:07,799
So they started stalking her
likes and exact same thing,
5548
03:42:08,133 --> 03:42:09,766
getting their friends to
write articles,
5549
03:42:09,833 --> 03:42:11,433
like what's happening
to Brett Cooper?
5550
03:42:11,500 --> 03:42:12,666
She likes this tweet.
5551
03:42:13,566 --> 03:42:15,000
And I defended her.
5552
03:42:15,066 --> 03:42:17,133
And when he did the thing
with her best,
5553
03:42:17,200 --> 03:42:18,066
I did the thing with
her best friend
5554
03:42:18,466 --> 03:42:19,566
as a way to torture her.
5555
03:42:19,833 --> 03:42:20,700
That, cause that's what
that was.
5556
03:42:20,766 --> 03:42:21,500
That's how he is.
5557
03:42:21,633 --> 03:42:22,933
He's unwell.
5558
03:42:24,100 --> 03:42:26,100
But because it's like, you
don't leave my cult
5559
03:42:26,166 --> 03:42:28,100
and you're a piece of
property to me.
5560
03:42:28,533 --> 03:42:30,233
I'm going to make you suffer.
5561
03:42:30,299 --> 03:42:32,200
And he went to her wedding.
5562
03:42:32,266 --> 03:42:33,466
He went to Brett's wedding.
5563
03:42:34,899 --> 03:42:36,966
Knew Reagan was her
best friend.
5564
03:42:37,033 --> 03:42:39,933
Knew that Reagan was her
maid of honor
5565
03:42:40,266 --> 03:42:41,399
and thought through.
5566
03:42:42,066 --> 03:42:43,566
And here's what the most
f-ed up part.
5567
03:42:43,633 --> 03:42:47,766
And I apologize in advance
for me having absolutely
5568
03:42:47,833 --> 03:42:48,766
zero permission from Brett,
5569
03:42:48,833 --> 03:42:49,700
but we're already
on the show.
5570
03:42:49,766 --> 03:42:50,500
So I can't say anything.
5571
03:42:50,566 --> 03:42:51,766
I can't go backward.
5572
03:42:53,533 --> 03:42:55,033
Sometimes I feel like
I'm not on air.
5573
03:42:55,100 --> 03:42:56,700
And I kind of forget that all
this is going to be,
5574
03:42:56,799 --> 03:42:58,600
you know, that's kind of the
problem with podcasts
5575
03:42:58,666 --> 03:43:00,766
is sometimes you're just, I'm
just talking to you.
5576
03:43:00,833 --> 03:43:01,733
Sometimes you get a
little loose.
5577
03:43:01,799 --> 03:43:03,500
I'm just talking to you in
your living room now.
5578
03:43:03,633 --> 03:43:03,966
Yeah.
5579
03:43:04,466 --> 03:43:06,633
And this will be obviously
very viral,
5580
03:43:06,700 --> 03:43:08,600
but the most f-ed up
part of it,
5581
03:43:09,200 --> 03:43:11,733
and I actually think both of
the girls were victimized
5582
03:43:11,799 --> 03:43:12,700
by it, I want to be clear.
5583
03:43:12,833 --> 03:43:15,566
Like I don't like what
Reagan did,
5584
03:43:15,700 --> 03:43:18,433
but these were two young girls,
like, you know, young,
5585
03:43:18,566 --> 03:43:19,399
and they were best friends.
5586
03:43:19,466 --> 03:43:21,966
And there was just some maniacal
homosexual man doing this
5587
03:43:22,233 --> 03:43:24,666
because he wanted Brett to suffer
for just leaving a job.
5588
03:43:25,033 --> 03:43:26,100
Like, hey, I'm 22.
5589
03:43:26,633 --> 03:43:27,566
No matter what my reason is,
5590
03:43:27,799 --> 03:43:28,733
I should be able to
leave a job.
5591
03:43:30,500 --> 03:43:35,000
He offered Reagan more money
than he ever paid Brett.
5592
03:43:36,366 --> 03:43:37,566
Great business decision.
5593
03:43:37,833 --> 03:43:38,766
Worked out really well
for him.
5594
03:43:38,833 --> 03:43:41,166
An offer you can't refuse
sort of a thing,
5595
03:43:41,233 --> 03:43:42,366
which would have been
life changing.
5596
03:43:42,433 --> 03:43:44,333
So who knows what her life
pressures were,
5597
03:43:44,399 --> 03:43:47,933
or she, and this is me
being gracious,
5598
03:43:48,366 --> 03:43:49,366
because I'm not a
fan of that.
5599
03:43:49,433 --> 03:43:50,600
I don't like going girls.
5600
03:43:51,666 --> 03:43:53,166
I wouldn't have done it, I'll
tell you that for free,
5601
03:43:53,466 --> 03:43:54,700
but I'm built a little
different.
5602
03:43:55,533 --> 03:43:58,566
But you can see how that
kind of money
5603
03:43:58,633 --> 03:44:01,466
in front of someone who's just
like an associate producer,
5604
03:44:01,533 --> 03:44:02,399
and suddenly someone's like,
5605
03:44:02,466 --> 03:44:03,966
not only will I make you a
star, I'll do this,
5606
03:44:04,033 --> 03:44:06,366
and he did that for sport.
5607
03:44:07,366 --> 03:44:09,366
Because he wanted her to, and
it hurt her, by the way.
5608
03:44:09,433 --> 03:44:10,399
He was successful.
5609
03:44:10,899 --> 03:44:12,333
That was a relationship that
meant a lot to her.
5610
03:44:13,700 --> 03:44:16,833
And that's not something, this
is something you hear
5611
03:44:17,266 --> 03:44:22,333
like a deranged husband doing
to a wife after a divorce.
5612
03:44:22,399 --> 03:44:22,833
You know what I mean?
5613
03:44:22,899 --> 03:44:25,500
Like how will I make
her suffer,
5614
03:44:25,566 --> 03:44:28,033
and like using the kids
as a chip
5615
03:44:28,100 --> 03:44:29,166
in the middle of the divorce?
5616
03:44:29,500 --> 03:44:33,100
This isn't something you
hear about a CEO,
5617
03:44:33,399 --> 03:44:35,500
and a 22 year old girl who
wants to leave
5618
03:44:35,566 --> 03:44:36,799
because she wants to
have kids,
5619
03:44:36,866 --> 03:44:38,133
and he doesn't think it's
a good idea,
5620
03:44:38,500 --> 03:44:39,533
for you to have kids.
5621
03:44:40,533 --> 03:44:41,466
And so I stood up for her,
5622
03:44:41,533 --> 03:44:43,566
and then I got sued for standing
up for her publicly.
5623
03:44:44,799 --> 03:44:45,533
Zero regrets.
5624
03:44:45,866 --> 03:44:49,500
I actually, as we were approaching
the court date,
5625
03:44:49,566 --> 03:44:51,666
I told my lawyers, I'm not
gonna lie to the judge.
5626
03:44:52,066 --> 03:44:54,566
If they wanna know, did
I do an episode
5627
03:44:54,633 --> 03:44:55,666
defending Brett Cooper?
5628
03:44:56,033 --> 03:44:59,399
And I think he wanted some, every
time they had dinged me,
5629
03:44:59,466 --> 03:45:02,166
they wanted 300K for
every offense,
5630
03:45:02,233 --> 03:45:03,066
and I think for that episode,
5631
03:45:03,133 --> 03:45:04,933
they wanted a million dollars
for me defending Brett.
5632
03:45:06,933 --> 03:45:08,833
Or 300K for that episode.
5633
03:45:11,866 --> 03:45:13,000
I said I was just gonna
pay it,
5634
03:45:13,466 --> 03:45:16,233
and I said I would have hung
it up on the wall
5635
03:45:16,299 --> 03:45:19,000
and showed my kids, stand
up for something.
5636
03:45:19,700 --> 03:45:20,833
Money's just money.
Good for you.
5637
03:45:20,899 --> 03:45:21,700
And I would have said
to the judge,
5638
03:45:21,766 --> 03:45:23,866
yep, I consciously made, that
was the one time
5639
03:45:23,933 --> 03:45:25,133
where they were coming
after me
5640
03:45:25,433 --> 03:45:27,933
for something that could have
violated disparagement
5641
03:45:28,000 --> 03:45:29,466
because I was sickened by
what he did to her.
5642
03:45:31,066 --> 03:45:31,700
Good for you.
5643
03:45:32,533 --> 03:45:32,799
Yeah.
5644
03:45:33,233 --> 03:45:34,100
That's a real friend.
5645
03:45:34,166 --> 03:45:35,799
Money's on everything in life,
you know what I mean?
5646
03:45:36,200 --> 03:45:36,433
Yep.
5647
03:45:36,600 --> 03:45:39,500
She was so young, it's just
like, give it to me,
5648
03:45:39,566 --> 03:45:40,000
you know what I mean?
5649
03:45:40,066 --> 03:45:42,633
I felt so like, and I wasn't
actually close to Brett
5650
03:45:42,733 --> 03:45:44,833
at The Daily Wire, we
got close after
5651
03:45:45,066 --> 03:45:48,466
because of dealing with
lawsuits,
5652
03:45:48,533 --> 03:45:50,066
and he sued her over wearing
a blue shirt.
5653
03:45:50,133 --> 03:45:51,466
I mean, he's a total,
5654
03:45:51,899 --> 03:45:53,866
like someone said it so
perfectly online.
5655
03:45:54,100 --> 03:45:56,100
Why would the Israeli Wire
sue somebody
5656
03:45:56,166 --> 03:45:58,000
for wearing a blue, I mean,
the Daily Wire
5657
03:45:58,066 --> 03:45:59,700
sue somebody for wearing
a blue shirt?
5658
03:46:00,200 --> 03:46:01,666
There, well, it was
all about,
5659
03:46:01,733 --> 03:46:04,000
it's all about the suffering
of the lawsuit, right?
5660
03:46:04,066 --> 03:46:05,166
It's not about whether or
not they can win.
5661
03:46:05,233 --> 03:46:08,299
It's about knowing that she
doesn't have this money.
5662
03:46:08,366 --> 03:46:12,766
You're gonna sue her 100K, 300K
for wearing a blue shirt.
5663
03:46:12,833 --> 03:46:15,733
And so what happens, this really
gets you into the mind
5664
03:46:15,799 --> 03:46:17,000
of how Jeremy Boring works.
5665
03:46:17,533 --> 03:46:21,033
On her last day, they did
a joint announcement
5666
03:46:21,100 --> 03:46:23,233
that was really weird and
everyone could tell
5667
03:46:23,299 --> 03:46:24,966
that something more
was happening,
5668
03:46:25,399 --> 03:46:28,299
but they had agreed, whatever
the language is.
5669
03:46:28,366 --> 03:46:32,000
And so Jeremy did a like,
"Brett's been great."
5670
03:46:32,066 --> 03:46:33,966
And then it kind of cut to,
5671
03:46:34,299 --> 03:46:35,399
I remember watching and
being like,
5672
03:46:35,466 --> 03:46:37,866
"This is weird and obviously
your audience
5673
03:46:37,933 --> 03:46:39,133
can sniff it out in
four seconds.
5674
03:46:39,200 --> 03:46:40,833
They are growing with you, they
know you, they're here.
5675
03:46:40,899 --> 03:46:42,100
It's called the Brett
Cooper Show."
5676
03:46:42,866 --> 03:46:48,433
And they could sense that
something was coming
5677
03:46:48,633 --> 03:46:50,233
or whatever it was, but
on that day,
5678
03:46:50,299 --> 03:46:51,933
she wore a blue shirt,
is all I know.
5679
03:46:52,000 --> 03:46:53,799
Is that she wore a blue shirt
during that announcement.
5680
03:46:54,266 --> 03:46:56,533
And it turned out that
previously,
5681
03:46:56,700 --> 03:46:57,633
someone in the comments,
5682
03:46:57,700 --> 03:46:58,933
because I told you he
stalks comments,
5683
03:46:59,000 --> 03:47:01,433
that's his thing, he's a true
stalker in the comments,
5684
03:47:01,700 --> 03:47:02,966
had said, "Brett, if you're
5685
03:47:03,033 --> 03:47:05,666
under an NDA, wear a
blue shirt."
5686
03:47:06,533 --> 03:47:08,200
So he extrapolated from that,
5687
03:47:08,266 --> 03:47:11,266
that she must have intentionally
worn a blue shirt,
5688
03:47:11,433 --> 03:47:12,866
which is completely wacky
and untracked.
5689
03:47:13,899 --> 03:47:14,666
You're wearing a blue shirt,
5690
03:47:14,833 --> 03:47:16,666
if you're not wearing a blue
shirt three times a week,
5691
03:47:16,733 --> 03:47:18,133
like we're not talking about
a maroon shirt.
5692
03:47:18,200 --> 03:47:21,100
Like this is a white,
black, blue,
5693
03:47:21,166 --> 03:47:23,299
I feel like everyone wears
three times a week.
5694
03:47:23,533 --> 03:47:25,299
So then he found a
reason too,
5695
03:47:25,366 --> 03:47:26,866
because he never wants you
to leave, right?
5696
03:47:26,933 --> 03:47:29,799
So then you sue and then you're
behind the scenes
5697
03:47:29,866 --> 03:47:30,466
and you're fighting them,
5698
03:47:30,533 --> 03:47:32,200
because it's a way to hold
on to a relationship.
5699
03:47:32,266 --> 03:47:34,133
And so it's a legal form
of stalking.
5700
03:47:34,200 --> 03:47:36,266
And so I'm actually quite
passionate about it.
5701
03:47:36,333 --> 03:47:38,033
I hope that one day with
my platform,
5702
03:47:38,666 --> 03:47:39,899
I can get laws changed,
5703
03:47:39,966 --> 03:47:44,766
because it allows psychopathic
men to stalk women legally.
5704
03:47:45,133 --> 03:47:46,033
Because they go, "Well,
I have a contract
5705
03:47:46,100 --> 03:47:47,933
and I can interpret anything
as disparagement,
5706
03:47:48,000 --> 03:47:50,100
even a shirt, a like
on Twitter.
5707
03:47:50,266 --> 03:47:52,033
So I can now keep
you in court
5708
03:47:52,100 --> 03:47:53,600
and keep you tied to
me for years."
5709
03:47:53,666 --> 03:47:54,566
And that's what he did to me.
5710
03:47:55,166 --> 03:47:55,966
It never stopped.
5711
03:47:56,033 --> 03:47:57,600
As soon as it stopped,
5712
03:47:57,899 --> 03:48:00,633
he's now doing tours,
still talk.
5713
03:48:00,700 --> 03:48:02,666
So it's been a nonstop
stalk from him
5714
03:48:03,100 --> 03:48:04,266
and he did the same thing
to Brett.
5715
03:48:04,533 --> 03:48:06,966
So it's like, you can never
leave sort of a thing.
5716
03:48:07,600 --> 03:48:08,533
Holy shit.
5717
03:48:08,899 --> 03:48:11,233
But that's what there are laws
that need to be changed
5718
03:48:11,299 --> 03:48:12,299
about arbitration court.
5719
03:48:12,366 --> 03:48:13,500
Cause that's what arbitration
gives them
5720
03:48:13,566 --> 03:48:14,433
the comfort of doing.
5721
03:48:14,700 --> 03:48:16,700
He would have never brought that
lawsuit in a public court
5722
03:48:17,333 --> 03:48:18,500
because that would have
humiliated him.
5723
03:48:18,566 --> 03:48:20,033
And people would have read
and realized
5724
03:48:20,100 --> 03:48:21,433
that something's deranged
about him.
5725
03:48:22,066 --> 03:48:23,000
They realized that now,
5726
03:48:23,066 --> 03:48:24,399
just on the basis of the
amount of interviews
5727
03:48:24,466 --> 03:48:25,299
he's given about me,
5728
03:48:25,366 --> 03:48:26,566
that people are now going,
5729
03:48:26,733 --> 03:48:29,333
this is starting to feel
obsessive with Jeremy,
5730
03:48:29,399 --> 03:48:30,933
give him a stage and he'll
reveal himself.
5731
03:48:31,000 --> 03:48:33,066
So I don't mind him doing all
those interviews,
5732
03:48:33,466 --> 03:48:36,433
but to have to suffer that
in arbitration court
5733
03:48:36,500 --> 03:48:37,833
and to not be able to speak,
5734
03:48:38,266 --> 03:48:40,433
that is, laws have to change.
5735
03:48:41,666 --> 03:48:43,000
It's legal abuse. Who's
interviewing him?
5736
03:48:43,133 --> 03:48:45,433
I mean, what's the interest?
5737
03:48:45,566 --> 03:48:45,966
Me.
5738
03:48:46,666 --> 03:48:46,700
(laughs)
5739
03:48:46,933 --> 03:48:48,600
You're interviewing a failed
businessman.
5740
03:48:48,666 --> 03:48:49,033
I know.
5741
03:48:49,633 --> 03:48:51,366
Like the Israeli wire
is like,
5742
03:48:52,066 --> 03:48:52,266
Yeah.
5743
03:48:52,666 --> 03:48:53,033
And it's because of him.
5744
03:48:53,100 --> 03:48:54,166
They're buying views.
5745
03:48:54,299 --> 03:48:55,766
They're buying fucking views.
5746
03:48:56,366 --> 03:48:57,100
And it's because of him,
5747
03:48:57,533 --> 03:49:00,833
that investment in his childhood
dream, Pendragon.
5748
03:49:03,100 --> 03:49:05,033
He's not right in the head.
5749
03:49:05,100 --> 03:49:06,333
So with someone like that,
5750
03:49:07,133 --> 03:49:10,299
he just thinks he's gonna
build something.
5751
03:49:10,366 --> 03:49:11,700
I mean, it doesn't sound
like any of them
5752
03:49:11,766 --> 03:49:12,399
are right in the head
5753
03:49:12,466 --> 03:49:14,366
and they sure as fuck don't
learn any lessons.
5754
03:49:14,433 --> 03:49:15,899
I mean, they're trying
to get you
5755
03:49:15,966 --> 03:49:17,366
to speak out against Kanye
5756
03:49:18,066 --> 03:49:20,033
and then fast forward what,
a couple of years.
5757
03:49:20,566 --> 03:49:22,433
And now they're trying to
get Megyn Kelly
5758
03:49:22,500 --> 03:49:25,299
to speak out against you and
I think Tucker, right?
5759
03:49:25,733 --> 03:49:27,466
She's the internet mom
or something.
5760
03:49:27,833 --> 03:49:29,500
And it's so crazy because
it wasn't like
5761
03:49:29,566 --> 03:49:30,533
Megyn was platforming me.
5762
03:49:30,600 --> 03:49:31,633
That's what was so strange.
5763
03:49:31,700 --> 03:49:36,966
Their attacks against her was
especially psychotic
5764
03:49:37,033 --> 03:49:38,700
because they were just going,
5765
03:49:38,766 --> 03:49:39,899
hey, it's Tuesday,
5766
03:49:40,166 --> 03:49:41,133
we're gonna need you to make
a statement about
5767
03:49:41,200 --> 03:49:41,500
Can of Sones.
5768
03:49:41,566 --> 03:49:42,733
And she's like, wait, why do
I have to make a statement
5769
03:49:42,799 --> 03:49:43,299
about Can of Sones?
5770
03:49:43,366 --> 03:49:44,133
I don't know Can of Sones.
5771
03:49:44,200 --> 03:49:46,000
I don't like, I haven't
had her.
5772
03:49:46,299 --> 03:49:48,066
I think she literally had
me on her radio show
5773
03:49:48,133 --> 03:49:50,100
one time years ago when I was
at the Daily Wire
5774
03:49:50,733 --> 03:49:53,399
promoting The Greatest
Lie Ever Sold.
5775
03:49:54,299 --> 03:49:55,600
And then we met at the
Megyn Kelly show
5776
03:49:56,233 --> 03:49:59,333
and they just, they're
tribal.
5777
03:49:59,399 --> 03:50:01,000
So it's like, well, because
we said so.
5778
03:50:01,766 --> 03:50:02,500
Because we said so,
5779
03:50:02,566 --> 03:50:03,799
you need to say something
about Can of Sones.
5780
03:50:03,866 --> 03:50:06,233
And she's like, I'm not
gonna do that.
5781
03:50:07,033 --> 03:50:08,500
Cause that diminishes
me as a person.
5782
03:50:08,566 --> 03:50:09,866
That makes Megyn look weak.
5783
03:50:10,233 --> 03:50:12,833
That means she's not in the driver's
sheet of her own life.
5784
03:50:13,366 --> 03:50:14,799
And then they start applying
the pressure.
5785
03:50:14,866 --> 03:50:16,000
The mafia starts to come in
5786
03:50:16,066 --> 03:50:20,133
and they'll start putting
bots in your comments,
5787
03:50:20,200 --> 03:50:21,533
having people stalk you,
5788
03:50:21,899 --> 03:50:23,399
talking about you every
single day,
5789
03:50:23,466 --> 03:50:25,166
trying to ruin your
reputation,
5790
03:50:25,233 --> 03:50:26,500
having people email.
5791
03:50:27,100 --> 03:50:28,566
They even have like
email bots
5792
03:50:28,633 --> 03:50:31,433
where they can have 3000
fake emails,
5793
03:50:31,933 --> 03:50:34,000
go out and try to stop wherever
you're speaking.
5794
03:50:34,933 --> 03:50:36,333
Like, don't toast
this person,
5795
03:50:36,399 --> 03:50:39,399
she's Adolf Hitler and just creating
trouble in your life.
5796
03:50:39,466 --> 03:50:41,666
And you can see their new
fixation is Megyn Kelly.
5797
03:50:42,233 --> 03:50:42,666
3000 bots.
5798
03:50:42,966 --> 03:50:44,399
Yeah, at events that
I speak at,
5799
03:50:44,766 --> 03:50:47,866
I have to pre-tell people
that if you announce me
5800
03:50:47,933 --> 03:50:49,533
as a speaker, you're gonna
start getting
5801
03:50:49,600 --> 03:50:51,899
a bunch of emails and you're
gonna think
5802
03:50:51,966 --> 03:50:53,933
they're from real people
and they're not.
5803
03:50:54,233 --> 03:50:54,933
They're just bots.
5804
03:50:55,000 --> 03:50:56,566
And now that we can read
the faradox,
5805
03:50:56,633 --> 03:50:57,966
they're honest about the fact
that they control
5806
03:50:58,033 --> 03:51:00,166
these like Israeli bots in
the comment sections
5807
03:51:00,466 --> 03:51:03,000
on Instagram and on Facebook
to make people.
5808
03:51:03,233 --> 03:51:06,333
So the Israeli wire also has
an Israeli bot farm.
5809
03:51:06,399 --> 03:51:08,833
Well, I don't know if they
are orchestrating it,
5810
03:51:08,899 --> 03:51:11,266
but I know that they have their
accounts that they pay
5811
03:51:11,333 --> 03:51:13,299
and Seth Dillon helps
out with that,
5812
03:51:13,366 --> 03:51:14,233
with people that they pay or
5813
03:51:14,299 --> 03:51:16,066
just like stalk all
day online.
5814
03:51:16,399 --> 03:51:18,466
And it's all about creating
an illusion of pressure.
5815
03:51:19,033 --> 03:51:20,133
It's not real, obviously.
5816
03:51:20,200 --> 03:51:21,766
The majority of Americans don't
support what Israel's doing
5817
03:51:21,833 --> 03:51:22,733
and don't support Israel.
5818
03:51:22,966 --> 03:51:25,166
So they have to create
fake people.
5819
03:51:26,500 --> 03:51:30,700
And you can read the faradox
of the clockwork LLC
5820
03:51:31,033 --> 03:51:32,100
and it's totally insane.
5821
03:51:32,166 --> 03:51:34,033
They're just, they have, admitting
what they're doing.
5822
03:51:36,200 --> 03:51:38,133
Yeah, it really is something
to behold,
5823
03:51:38,200 --> 03:51:40,333
but that's what they're putting
Megyn Kelly through.
5824
03:51:40,700 --> 03:51:42,633
And she's proven to
be very tough.
5825
03:51:43,000 --> 03:51:45,733
And they're also angry at her
because she told the truth,
5826
03:51:46,233 --> 03:51:47,500
which surprised me
by the way,
5827
03:51:47,566 --> 03:51:49,333
and I have such a deep respect
for her over it.
5828
03:51:49,899 --> 03:51:51,166
She was one of the few people
who stood up
5829
03:51:51,233 --> 03:51:53,266
and told the truth about what
Charlie was going through
5830
03:51:53,333 --> 03:51:57,766
in the end, as all of his friends
lied about the pressure,
5831
03:51:58,200 --> 03:52:01,133
including his wife, about the
pressure he was under
5832
03:52:01,200 --> 03:52:02,533
by Israel, they lied.
5833
03:52:02,600 --> 03:52:05,033
And Megyn was one of the last
people to speak with him
5834
03:52:05,100 --> 03:52:07,433
on her show and he opened
up to her
5835
03:52:08,000 --> 03:52:09,666
and told her everything he
was going through
5836
03:52:09,733 --> 03:52:12,733
and she just told the truth,
that's it.
5837
03:52:13,299 --> 03:52:13,933
That was her crime.
5838
03:52:14,533 --> 03:52:18,766
Man, what a major miscalculation
of your own strength.
5839
03:52:19,433 --> 03:52:21,066
Wow, wow.
5840
03:52:21,833 --> 03:52:23,500
They just never fucking
learn over there.
5841
03:52:24,100 --> 03:52:25,866
I mean, they're gonna tank
that entire,
5842
03:52:26,299 --> 03:52:28,266
I mean, I don't think there's
any coming back from this,
5843
03:52:28,333 --> 03:52:33,700
but I mean, they're getting like
1.2,000 views a video.
5844
03:52:33,766 --> 03:52:35,366
It's fucking crazy.
5845
03:52:35,633 --> 03:52:35,933
Yeah.
5846
03:52:37,066 --> 03:52:39,633
I think it's a, I mean, are
you allowed to have any
5847
03:52:39,866 --> 03:52:42,266
like criticism of Israel
over there?
5848
03:52:42,366 --> 03:52:43,533
No, clearly not.
5849
03:52:44,000 --> 03:52:45,433
I said genocide is
always wrong.
5850
03:52:47,200 --> 03:52:49,233
And I was getting text messages
of people trying
5851
03:52:49,299 --> 03:52:53,799
to convince me that I had done
something truly crazy.
5852
03:52:54,299 --> 03:52:57,299
And I wasn't even talking
about Israel.
5853
03:52:57,533 --> 03:52:58,666
I was talking about
Brian Mass.
5854
03:52:58,733 --> 03:53:03,433
He wore an IDF uniform into
Congress and said,
5855
03:53:04,133 --> 03:53:06,033
I'm trying to remember, but
he basically said,
5856
03:53:06,100 --> 03:53:08,100
there's no such thing as an
innocent Palestinian.
5857
03:53:08,666 --> 03:53:09,766
And it was completely
genocidal.
5858
03:53:10,366 --> 03:53:14,366
And I saw a tweet from Yashar
Ali about it.
5859
03:53:14,433 --> 03:53:16,533
And I was in Madrid at the
time at a wedding
5860
03:53:16,966 --> 03:53:20,799
and I tweeted genocide, no
matter who it, you know,
5861
03:53:20,866 --> 03:53:23,333
genocide, no matter who it comes
from is always wrong.
5862
03:53:24,700 --> 03:53:26,633
And they wanted me
to apologize.
5863
03:53:27,500 --> 03:53:28,500
Apologize?
5864
03:53:28,700 --> 03:53:29,799
Apologize to who?
5865
03:53:29,866 --> 03:53:33,100
To understand how that
hurt Israel.
5866
03:53:33,166 --> 03:53:36,100
Cause people assumed that I
was referring to Israel.
5867
03:53:36,166 --> 03:53:38,933
And I was like, okay, let's
say I wasn't referring
5868
03:53:39,000 --> 03:53:40,666
to Israel, like genocide
is always wrong.
5869
03:53:41,033 --> 03:53:42,100
Actually applies all
the time,
5870
03:53:42,166 --> 03:53:43,066
but I was referring
specifically
5871
03:53:43,133 --> 03:53:44,833
to Brian Mass and they
tried to tell me
5872
03:53:45,500 --> 03:53:50,733
that it didn't matter that
Ben's friends thought
5873
03:53:50,799 --> 03:53:51,933
I was talking about Israel.
5874
03:53:52,399 --> 03:53:56,066
So basically if somebody
else has an idea,
5875
03:53:56,533 --> 03:53:57,633
I'm responsible for it.
5876
03:53:58,233 --> 03:54:01,399
Even when I believe exactly
what I tweeted,
5877
03:54:01,466 --> 03:54:02,133
genocide is always wrong.
5878
03:54:02,200 --> 03:54:02,833
I said what I meant.
5879
03:54:03,799 --> 03:54:06,366
I didn't know I had to say
in small print,
5880
03:54:06,466 --> 03:54:08,899
this tweet is obviously
referencing Brian Mass
5881
03:54:08,966 --> 03:54:11,166
who is trending right now for
wearing an IDF uniform.
5882
03:54:11,333 --> 03:54:14,000
Like the tweet is a
standalone tweet.
5883
03:54:14,066 --> 03:54:14,933
Genocide is always wrong.
5884
03:54:16,733 --> 03:54:17,366
Jeez.
5885
03:54:21,000 --> 03:54:23,066
I think it's just, they were
a little insecure
5886
03:54:23,133 --> 03:54:24,399
cause they were planning
a genocide.
5887
03:54:25,000 --> 03:54:26,899
Now we can see why that tweet
really aren't in your skin.
5888
03:54:26,966 --> 03:54:28,733
I mean, it looks like they're
planning another one.
5889
03:54:28,799 --> 03:54:29,000
Yeah.
5890
03:54:29,066 --> 03:54:30,333
You've seen this tweet
that came out,
5891
03:54:30,500 --> 03:54:32,466
I texted it to you on the way
here from breakfast.
5892
03:54:32,799 --> 03:54:36,500
This is the Israeli minister
of national security.
5893
03:54:36,566 --> 03:54:37,500
Have you read this shit?
5894
03:54:38,266 --> 03:54:38,966
Let me read it to you.
5895
03:54:40,566 --> 03:54:42,733
For every terror of an
Israeli mother,
5896
03:54:42,866 --> 03:54:45,533
a thousand Lebanese mothers
must weep.
5897
03:54:45,933 --> 03:54:48,000
All of Lebanon must burn.
5898
03:54:48,533 --> 03:54:50,700
With all due respect to
the Americans,
5899
03:54:50,899 --> 03:54:53,500
Israel must make it clear
to the entire world
5900
03:54:53,766 --> 03:54:55,933
that the blood of our sons
and the security
5901
03:54:56,000 --> 03:54:57,666
of our citizens are
not forfeit.
5902
03:54:58,200 --> 03:54:59,700
All of Lebanon must burn.
5903
03:55:00,266 --> 03:55:03,566
Our supreme duty is to protect
the citizens of Israel
5904
03:55:03,633 --> 03:55:05,333
and the soldiers of the IDF.
5905
03:55:05,666 --> 03:55:07,799
And this commitment takes
precedence
5906
03:55:07,866 --> 03:55:09,666
over every other
consideration.
5907
03:55:10,133 --> 03:55:13,433
I told the prime minister, even
in our private meetings,
5908
03:55:13,600 --> 03:55:15,766
for every terror of an
Israeli mother,
5909
03:55:15,899 --> 03:55:17,899
a thousand Lebanese
must weep.
5910
03:55:18,299 --> 03:55:19,733
Enough with the ping pong.
5911
03:55:20,000 --> 03:55:22,133
In the Middle East,
you don't win
5912
03:55:22,200 --> 03:55:24,166
with measured responses
and restraint.
5913
03:55:24,500 --> 03:55:28,700
You need to go berserk to obliterate,
to crush the terror.
5914
03:55:29,500 --> 03:55:29,700
Yeah.
5915
03:55:30,066 --> 03:55:31,966
Sounds like another genocide's
on the way.
5916
03:55:32,033 --> 03:55:33,966
Yeah, he's a total psychopath,
but they all are.
5917
03:55:34,033 --> 03:55:34,666
That's the point.
5918
03:55:34,733 --> 03:55:36,366
The government is being run
by psychopaths.
5919
03:55:36,433 --> 03:55:38,366
And I think people need
to realize
5920
03:55:38,433 --> 03:55:40,100
that what they are doing is
the Palestinians,
5921
03:55:40,166 --> 03:55:41,733
the Lebanese people, they
will do to us.
5922
03:55:42,833 --> 03:55:43,666
They will do to us.
5923
03:55:43,733 --> 03:55:44,500
They will torture your kids.
5924
03:55:44,566 --> 03:55:45,100
They don't care.
5925
03:55:45,166 --> 03:55:48,433
I mean, this is in the pocket
of the goyim.
5926
03:55:49,166 --> 03:55:51,466
All of that was a conspiracy until
we suddenly had access
5927
03:55:51,533 --> 03:55:52,600
to Jeffrey Epstein's email.
5928
03:55:52,666 --> 03:55:53,466
What does goy mean?
5929
03:55:54,100 --> 03:55:54,533
Cattle.
5930
03:55:55,266 --> 03:55:56,266
Nation cattle?
5931
03:55:56,933 --> 03:55:57,933
Just cattle, you know.
5932
03:55:58,733 --> 03:56:01,299
Yeah, so they are okay with you
so long as you realize--
5933
03:56:01,366 --> 03:56:02,633
Because they say it
means nation.
5934
03:56:03,299 --> 03:56:04,133
It does not mean nation.
5935
03:56:04,200 --> 03:56:04,799
They'll ask rock.
5936
03:56:04,866 --> 03:56:06,600
It means nation, really?
5937
03:56:06,799 --> 03:56:07,366
No, it means cattle.
5938
03:56:08,299 --> 03:56:10,233
And so they are--
5939
03:56:10,366 --> 03:56:10,600
A goy.
5940
03:56:10,766 --> 03:56:10,966
Yeah.
5941
03:56:13,133 --> 03:56:15,700
I've never heard anybody call
a fucking nation a goy.
5942
03:56:16,166 --> 03:56:16,566
Have you?
5943
03:56:16,633 --> 03:56:19,100
No, no, that's completely
made up.
5944
03:56:19,166 --> 03:56:22,100
And that is not even
something.
5945
03:56:22,166 --> 03:56:24,000
I'm surprised that's a
new updated thing
5946
03:56:24,066 --> 03:56:26,166
they're trying to lie about,
but they try
5947
03:56:26,233 --> 03:56:27,533
to make a history even from
five weeks ago.
5948
03:56:28,633 --> 03:56:31,133
I saw somebody, they tried
to correct.
5949
03:56:31,433 --> 03:56:34,200
I think I tweeted something
about it.
5950
03:56:35,166 --> 03:56:36,899
I asked Ro Khanna when
he was here.
5951
03:56:36,966 --> 03:56:38,200
I said, what's a goy, Ro?
5952
03:56:39,100 --> 03:56:39,866
And he didn't know.
5953
03:56:40,266 --> 03:56:40,899
Yeah, it's cattle.
5954
03:56:40,966 --> 03:56:41,633
So we told him.
5955
03:56:42,566 --> 03:56:45,100
And then that clip
went crazy.
5956
03:56:45,799 --> 03:56:46,733
Yeah, this is--
5957
03:56:46,799 --> 03:56:48,566
And everybody's telling me
that it means nation.
5958
03:56:48,866 --> 03:56:49,399
Oh, yeah.
5959
03:56:51,100 --> 03:56:51,466
Nation.
5960
03:56:51,533 --> 03:56:52,333
He's a good goy.
5961
03:56:52,433 --> 03:56:52,899
Yeah.
5962
03:56:53,500 --> 03:56:54,633
There will be a lot
of boy there.
5963
03:56:54,700 --> 03:56:55,600
There will be a lot of
nation there.
5964
03:56:55,666 --> 03:56:57,033
And we read the context
of his emails,
5965
03:56:57,100 --> 03:56:58,433
but also that's kind
of weird.
5966
03:56:58,500 --> 03:56:59,799
All of their literature,
it's not difficult
5967
03:56:59,866 --> 03:57:00,866
to find out what goy means.
5968
03:57:00,933 --> 03:57:01,500
It's cattle.
5969
03:57:01,933 --> 03:57:03,766
And their perspective
is to the extent
5970
03:57:03,833 --> 03:57:05,866
that they can get us to work
for them, we're fine.
5971
03:57:06,366 --> 03:57:07,533
And if we won't work
for them,
5972
03:57:07,600 --> 03:57:08,700
then we have to be
obliterated.
5973
03:57:08,766 --> 03:57:10,200
They like to do the
grok thing.
5974
03:57:10,266 --> 03:57:11,799
We're like, grok, what
does goy mean?
5975
03:57:12,233 --> 03:57:14,366
And it'll say, I don't know
what it says.
5976
03:57:14,600 --> 03:57:16,200
But then I'll just go
over to Claude.
5977
03:57:17,033 --> 03:57:18,866
And I'll ask Claude, what
does goy mean?
5978
03:57:20,000 --> 03:57:23,966
Yeah. And it's a derogatory
comment towards anybody
5979
03:57:24,033 --> 03:57:24,799
that's not Jewish.
5980
03:57:24,866 --> 03:57:25,333
Yes.
5981
03:57:25,733 --> 03:57:27,899
It's racist.
5982
03:57:28,333 --> 03:57:30,333
It's a fundamentally racist--
5983
03:57:30,733 --> 03:57:32,433
Racist against Christians.
5984
03:57:32,500 --> 03:57:33,000
It is.
5985
03:57:33,666 --> 03:57:36,633
And there's a real, I
mean, they're
5986
03:57:36,700 --> 03:57:40,833
raised to believe that their
life matters more.
5987
03:57:40,899 --> 03:57:42,200
So Ben Gavir, you have to
5988
03:57:42,266 --> 03:57:44,933
appreciate that he's
being honest.
5989
03:57:45,366 --> 03:57:47,700
Well, I mean, you can see it
all over his fucking face.
5990
03:57:47,766 --> 03:57:47,833
Yeah, he's being honest.
5991
03:57:47,899 --> 03:57:49,833
He thinks he's more important
than everybody.
5992
03:57:50,033 --> 03:57:51,133
That's their perspective.
5993
03:57:51,200 --> 03:57:53,299
Like that's what October
7th proved.
5994
03:57:53,366 --> 03:57:55,966
They have a right to commit
a genocide now,
5995
03:57:56,666 --> 03:57:58,633
even though they plotted
it October 7th.
5996
03:57:58,700 --> 03:58:00,633
And Bibi Netanyahu allowed
it to happen.
5997
03:58:00,700 --> 03:58:01,799
And all the evidence
shows that.
5998
03:58:02,166 --> 03:58:04,333
The whole point is that
they-- and they've
5999
03:58:04,399 --> 03:58:06,299
been doing this forever, these
false flag attacks.
6000
03:58:06,633 --> 03:58:08,966
This is the whole history of Israel,
is false flag attacks.
6001
03:58:09,033 --> 03:58:10,433
I mean, look at the
USS Liberty.
6002
03:58:11,000 --> 03:58:12,366
And they still deny
what they did,
6003
03:58:13,600 --> 03:58:15,233
deny in the face of overwhelming
evidence.
6004
03:58:15,366 --> 03:58:17,799
They believe it is their
birthright
6005
03:58:18,166 --> 03:58:21,200
to mass murder, steal,
kill, and rape,
6006
03:58:22,000 --> 03:58:23,966
take from people, destroy
heritage,
6007
03:58:24,033 --> 03:58:27,100
and then reintroduce themselves
in other societies
6008
03:58:27,166 --> 03:58:28,666
with all of this wealth
that they stole.
6009
03:58:30,100 --> 03:58:31,766
And say that it's because
they worked hard.
6010
03:58:31,833 --> 03:58:33,833
Yeah, they worked hard murdering
people and stealing
6011
03:58:33,899 --> 03:58:36,733
and running the Gulag
system and--
6012
03:58:36,833 --> 03:58:38,133
What's the Gulag system?
6013
03:58:38,500 --> 03:58:42,733
Russia, you know, the Bolshevik
Revolution, the Romanovs,
6014
03:58:43,133 --> 03:58:47,933
the diamonds that they stole
from the Romanov family
6015
03:58:48,266 --> 03:58:50,766
after they murdered them
in satanic ritual.
6016
03:58:51,466 --> 03:58:53,500
Those diamonds ended up in
New York, by the way.
6017
03:58:53,766 --> 03:58:56,433
Like, you know what you should
do in your spare time?
6018
03:58:56,666 --> 03:59:00,766
Look into Armand Hammer, you know,
Army Hammer, the actor.
6019
03:59:02,033 --> 03:59:03,466
Look into his family's
history.
6020
03:59:03,533 --> 03:59:04,733
Look into Julius Hammer.
6021
03:59:06,000 --> 03:59:11,600
Look into Armand Hammer, what
their family did
6022
03:59:11,666 --> 03:59:14,066
when they came over from the Pale
of Settlement in Russia.
6023
03:59:15,333 --> 03:59:18,233
Lenin's, quote unquote,
"favorite Jew,"
6024
03:59:18,299 --> 03:59:19,566
even though Lenin himself
was Jewish.
6025
03:59:21,333 --> 03:59:23,733
He took diamonds, established
the diamond district.
6026
03:59:25,466 --> 03:59:27,966
Well, who were they getting the
diamonds from in Russia?
6027
03:59:28,033 --> 03:59:29,766
I mean, they were mass
murdering Christians.
6028
03:59:30,266 --> 03:59:32,566
So this is-- Where do you
think is gonna happen?
6029
03:59:32,833 --> 03:59:34,333
They just destroyed all
of Palestine.
6030
03:59:34,399 --> 03:59:35,633
Do you think there was
no welfare?
6031
03:59:35,966 --> 03:59:37,466
No jewelry, no diamonds?
6032
03:59:38,200 --> 03:59:42,399
And you see, when you see the
Israeli settlers go in
6033
03:59:43,033 --> 03:59:45,266
and pillage, I mean, have you
seen these videos?
6034
03:59:45,399 --> 03:59:46,533
They just take their land.
6035
03:59:47,633 --> 03:59:48,299
That's how it's always been.
6036
03:59:48,366 --> 03:59:49,733
They just run in and they
take your land.
6037
03:59:51,033 --> 03:59:51,866
It's theirs, no.
6038
03:59:52,633 --> 03:59:54,333
Thugs, they're being trained
to do that.
6039
03:59:55,366 --> 03:59:58,600
Like cockroaches, like watching
cockroaches descend, truly.
6040
03:59:59,600 --> 04:00:01,133
And that's the only way you
can describe it
6041
04:00:01,200 --> 04:00:02,366
when you see the videos,
it's disgusting.
6042
04:00:02,433 --> 04:00:04,166
It's the most, and they
beat these people
6043
04:00:04,500 --> 04:00:05,899
and they take their land
and that's it.
6044
04:00:05,966 --> 04:00:06,533
It's all there is now.
6045
04:00:06,966 --> 04:00:07,933
Well, there's gonna be a big,
6046
04:00:08,100 --> 04:00:10,600
is there gonna be a big Trump
hotel there now?
6047
04:00:11,399 --> 04:00:13,299
Well, that was, Trump
himself tweeted.
6048
04:00:13,366 --> 04:00:15,733
The Trump resort, whatever
it was,
6049
04:00:15,799 --> 04:00:16,899
of like, this is what
Gaza could be.
6050
04:00:16,966 --> 04:00:19,100
It was the most despicable
thing I've ever seen.
6051
04:00:19,399 --> 04:00:20,333
You wonder who tweeted it
6052
04:00:20,399 --> 04:00:21,600
because Trump doesn't know
how to use AI.
6053
04:00:21,666 --> 04:00:23,033
He's not authoring his
own tweets.
6054
04:00:25,100 --> 04:00:29,533
It was absolutely tasteless,
but--
6055
04:00:29,600 --> 04:00:30,933
Did you see, what was
that thing
6056
04:00:31,000 --> 04:00:33,399
that he posted about him
being Jesus?
6057
04:00:33,466 --> 04:00:35,033
Who was, what was that?
6058
04:00:35,100 --> 04:00:36,299
Oh, he didn't know that--
6059
04:00:36,366 --> 04:00:37,566
Oh yeah, he didn't
fucking know.
6060
04:00:37,633 --> 04:00:39,433
He didn't know there was
fucking demons
6061
04:00:39,500 --> 04:00:40,399
in this guy either, right?
6062
04:00:41,133 --> 04:00:42,566
What do you, what was that?
6063
04:00:43,466 --> 04:00:45,966
Just more of the really gross
stuff that is--
6064
04:00:46,033 --> 04:00:48,166
Are they just mocking
Christians or what,
6065
04:00:48,233 --> 04:00:49,133
like, what is this?
6066
04:00:49,200 --> 04:00:51,233
Well, they hate Christians.
6067
04:00:51,966 --> 04:00:53,266
They're taught to hate
Christians.
6068
04:00:53,333 --> 04:00:54,966
They spit on our children.
6069
04:00:55,399 --> 04:00:56,500
You think Trump hates
Christians?
6070
04:00:56,733 --> 04:00:57,899
They train their children
to spit.
6071
04:00:59,566 --> 04:01:01,033
I don't think he loves us.
6072
04:01:01,100 --> 04:01:02,899
That's, he's the one
that posted it.
6073
04:01:02,966 --> 04:01:06,066
Yeah, I mean, Trump's never pretended
to be a Christian.
6074
04:01:08,133 --> 04:01:12,200
I think he's been pretty
open about the fact
6075
04:01:12,333 --> 04:01:14,233
that he certainly favors
Israel.
6076
04:01:14,833 --> 04:01:15,466
(laughs)
6077
04:01:16,033 --> 04:01:18,333
He's got a 99% approval
rating over it.
6078
04:01:18,500 --> 04:01:20,399
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
6079
04:01:20,666 --> 04:01:21,666
He will--
6080
04:01:21,733 --> 04:01:23,333
I think he's also said
several times
6081
04:01:23,399 --> 04:01:24,733
he doesn't think he's
going to heaven.
6082
04:01:25,200 --> 04:01:26,833
Yeah, I think he's kind
of made his bed.
6083
04:01:29,033 --> 04:01:30,033
I don't think he's going
to heaven either.
6084
04:01:30,100 --> 04:01:31,533
If it means anything, I don't
get to decide,
6085
04:01:31,600 --> 04:01:33,533
but I don't just object to be
looking at everything.
6086
04:01:33,666 --> 04:01:37,266
I just wouldn't, I wouldn't bet
on him in heaven either.
6087
04:01:38,766 --> 04:01:40,466
You want people to change,
you hope they change,
6088
04:01:40,533 --> 04:01:43,633
but it's kind of hard when
you just see
6089
04:01:44,133 --> 04:01:45,533
what's going on there
to imagine
6090
04:01:45,600 --> 04:01:47,266
that that's a ticket to
heaven, you know?
6091
04:01:47,833 --> 04:01:49,033
But he's allowing to happen.
6092
04:01:52,433 --> 04:01:54,399
It's like he's obsessed with
the earthly riches
6093
04:01:54,466 --> 04:01:55,700
and he's got such short
time to live,
6094
04:01:55,766 --> 04:01:57,066
you'd think that toward the,
6095
04:01:57,133 --> 04:01:58,733
you'd hope that toward the
end of your life,
6096
04:01:58,799 --> 04:02:00,833
you would want to right wrongs
and be a good person
6097
04:02:01,766 --> 04:02:03,600
because you know you're going
to meet your maker soon.
6098
04:02:04,000 --> 04:02:05,933
So that's one of the more
stunning things is like,
6099
04:02:06,166 --> 04:02:07,233
Trump's going to die
soon just
6100
04:02:07,299 --> 04:02:08,399
because he's going
to die soon.
6101
04:02:08,700 --> 04:02:10,066
He's in his 80s, that's
how it works.
6102
04:02:10,500 --> 04:02:11,333
Joe Biden's going
to die soon,
6103
04:02:11,399 --> 04:02:12,133
they're all going
to die soon.
6104
04:02:12,200 --> 04:02:17,566
So it's usually a good time
to not beget evil.
6105
04:02:18,466 --> 04:02:19,633
Try to get right with God,
I don't know.
6106
04:02:21,033 --> 04:02:21,833
Final stretch.
6107
04:02:23,633 --> 04:02:26,600
Try to sprint, you try to
sprint, last stretch.
6108
04:02:27,200 --> 04:02:29,733
And it's interesting to see Trump
sort of do the opposite.
6109
04:02:29,799 --> 04:02:32,833
And I just go, okay, that's
interesting.
6110
04:02:37,366 --> 04:02:37,766
Man.
6111
04:02:39,566 --> 04:02:43,766
I don't even wish any ill
toward Trump.
6112
04:02:43,833 --> 04:02:45,299
I don't have any anger.
6113
04:02:46,833 --> 04:02:49,566
I just, it's worse,
it's pity.
6114
04:02:50,500 --> 04:02:51,533
You don't have any anger?
6115
04:02:52,100 --> 04:02:52,666
I pity him.
6116
04:02:54,833 --> 04:02:58,266
I pity a man who has
relinquished
6117
04:02:59,600 --> 04:03:02,000
what was a real power.
6118
04:03:02,200 --> 04:03:04,133
People loved him, believed
in him,
6119
04:03:06,033 --> 04:03:07,299
thought that he could
change things.
6120
04:03:07,366 --> 04:03:13,033
I pity for earthly riches to
give that up, I don't know.
6121
04:03:13,766 --> 04:03:16,833
And that will be his legacy.
6122
04:03:18,266 --> 04:03:19,533
I always pity weak men.
6123
04:03:21,266 --> 04:03:22,600
I always pity weak men.
6124
04:03:23,266 --> 04:03:23,966
Because I just think
6125
04:03:26,433 --> 04:03:28,966
there is something so natural
6126
04:03:30,466 --> 04:03:32,866
in the way that God designed
it for men to lead,
6127
04:03:33,333 --> 04:03:35,433
for men to be strong, for men
to be forthright.
6128
04:03:35,500 --> 04:03:37,866
And so when you see men
that are weak,
6129
04:03:38,866 --> 04:03:42,933
it does draw from me frustration,
but also pity.
6130
04:03:43,666 --> 04:03:45,533
That's not what God designed
you to be.
6131
04:03:49,133 --> 04:03:51,533
I almost wish I had pity for
him, but I just don't.
6132
04:03:52,000 --> 04:03:52,333
Yeah.
6133
04:03:54,166 --> 04:03:56,033
He said, "How do you not,
he's a slave."
6134
04:03:56,899 --> 04:03:58,299
He said, "All this stuff
needs a slave."
6135
04:03:58,466 --> 04:04:00,100
Because he's a voluntary
slave.
6136
04:04:00,333 --> 04:04:01,500
He made the fucking decision.
6137
04:04:01,566 --> 04:04:02,299
He made the decision.
6138
04:04:02,366 --> 04:04:03,133
He was forced into it.
6139
04:04:03,500 --> 04:04:04,766
He's a greedy piece of shit.
6140
04:04:05,766 --> 04:04:06,799
He just wanted to be
president.
6141
04:04:08,233 --> 04:04:10,433
And he was short-sighted.
6142
04:04:11,266 --> 04:04:12,700
I think he's living in a
prison every day.
6143
04:04:13,333 --> 04:04:14,833
I fucking hope he is.
6144
04:04:15,000 --> 04:04:15,333
Yeah.
6145
04:04:16,566 --> 04:04:18,333
He's not loved, and that
matters to him.
6146
04:04:19,533 --> 04:04:22,733
And I don't know.
6147
04:04:22,799 --> 04:04:23,466
I just...
6148
04:04:28,133 --> 04:04:29,433
I don't think I'm angry
with him, no.
6149
04:04:29,500 --> 04:04:32,200
I think I'm just equal
parts disgusted.
6150
04:04:32,266 --> 04:04:33,100
I think it's pitiful.
6151
04:04:35,033 --> 04:04:37,066
That's what, I mean, when
you're going back
6152
04:04:37,133 --> 04:04:38,433
to the question you first
asked me,
6153
04:04:39,166 --> 04:04:40,166
what's it like having
the partner?
6154
04:04:40,233 --> 04:04:41,399
And I'm like, I even forgot.
6155
04:04:41,566 --> 04:04:42,966
That's how powerless
he's become.
6156
04:04:43,533 --> 04:04:44,966
It's not even something
I hold on to
6157
04:04:45,033 --> 04:04:46,000
a couple of weeks later.
6158
04:04:46,100 --> 04:04:48,299
Just poor Trump, you know?
6159
04:04:48,666 --> 04:04:49,233
Poor Trump.
6160
04:04:50,399 --> 04:04:51,333
Poor Trump.
6161
04:04:52,500 --> 04:04:53,133
Oh, man.
6162
04:04:53,233 --> 04:04:54,899
Have you heard about this
Peter Thiel shit?
6163
04:04:56,000 --> 04:04:56,433
What?
6164
04:04:56,899 --> 04:04:58,299
The secret society?
6165
04:05:00,133 --> 04:05:01,399
I got a hot question for you.
6166
04:05:02,233 --> 04:05:04,466
So we had Claude scrape
the internet
6167
04:05:04,766 --> 04:05:07,466
for the most viral question,
and here it is.
6168
04:05:10,833 --> 04:05:14,799
This week, a hacktivist leaked
the membership of Dialogue,
6169
04:05:15,200 --> 04:05:16,833
a secret invitation only
6170
04:05:16,899 --> 04:05:19,933
society Peter Thiel founded
in 2006
6171
04:05:20,533 --> 04:05:22,333
with a roster that reportedly
6172
04:05:22,399 --> 04:05:25,566
includes a sitting Treasury
secretary,
6173
04:05:25,766 --> 04:05:29,866
senators, and military and
intelligence officials.
6174
04:05:30,066 --> 04:05:31,133
So here's the question.
6175
04:05:31,700 --> 04:05:34,433
Have you looked into this at
all, and what's your take?
6176
04:05:34,666 --> 04:05:35,666
What's the group called?
6177
04:05:35,733 --> 04:05:36,966
Do they find out the name?
6178
04:05:37,299 --> 04:05:38,033
Dialogue.
6179
04:05:38,299 --> 04:05:39,333
Oh, it's called Dialogue?
6180
04:05:40,633 --> 04:05:44,766
I mean, my general instinct
on Peter Thiel is no.
6181
04:05:45,700 --> 04:05:51,266
His name is an anagram
for the reptile.
6182
04:05:51,333 --> 04:05:52,333
I just it's a no.
6183
04:05:52,700 --> 04:05:54,633
He appears in the Epstein
files
6184
04:05:54,700 --> 04:05:56,700
so much after lying
to Joe Rogan
6185
04:05:56,799 --> 04:05:59,433
and saying like, oh, I just something
with some math stuff.
6186
04:06:00,333 --> 04:06:01,200
It was weird.
6187
04:06:01,266 --> 04:06:01,966
The emails are weird.
6188
04:06:02,033 --> 04:06:02,633
It seems like they're like
6189
04:06:02,700 --> 04:06:05,933
meeting up for dalliances
and all
6190
04:06:06,000 --> 04:06:06,799
across New York City.
6191
04:06:06,866 --> 04:06:07,533
It's just weird.
6192
04:06:07,600 --> 04:06:08,533
It's very strange.
6193
04:06:08,600 --> 04:06:11,033
The emails and I just it's a
6194
04:06:11,100 --> 04:06:12,766
hard no, but also I
think I had my
6195
04:06:12,833 --> 04:06:13,799
opinion colored because Dave
6196
04:06:13,866 --> 04:06:16,333
Rubin told me about
how we partied
6197
04:06:16,399 --> 04:06:17,933
with him on his island.
6198
04:06:18,633 --> 04:06:19,966
He also has an island
by the way.
6199
04:06:21,466 --> 04:06:23,299
Who does Peter Thiel?
6200
04:06:24,899 --> 04:06:27,799
And Dave Rubin told me the
6201
04:06:27,866 --> 04:06:30,500
story that still lives
inside of me
6202
04:06:32,266 --> 04:06:33,500
and he'll deny it but Peter
6203
04:06:33,566 --> 04:06:34,399
Thiel will hear this
and know I'm
6204
04:06:34,466 --> 04:06:35,066
telling the truth because I
6205
04:06:35,133 --> 04:06:36,133
couldn't have known
it otherwise.
6206
04:06:36,200 --> 04:06:41,666
But him and his husband went to
Peter Thiel's Island, which
6207
04:06:41,733 --> 04:06:43,133
is in like off the coast
of Hawaii.
6208
04:06:43,200 --> 04:06:44,266
He just kind of bought
an island.
6209
04:06:44,333 --> 04:06:45,200
This is what you do at a
6210
04:06:45,266 --> 04:06:47,633
certain level and he has
his house on
6211
04:06:47,700 --> 04:06:50,166
it and he I guess got
to an age
6212
04:06:50,700 --> 04:06:51,833
where he realized
that like he
6213
04:06:51,899 --> 04:06:52,833
had somewhere to dump
as well.
6214
04:06:52,899 --> 04:06:54,533
So he decided to have
a kid, you
6215
04:06:54,600 --> 04:06:55,866
know, got a surrogate,
whatever
6216
04:06:56,366 --> 04:06:58,700
and he said it was
the weirdest
6217
04:06:58,766 --> 04:07:00,233
thing because once
his son was
6218
04:07:00,299 --> 04:07:04,733
born, they all were there on the
island and Peter Thiel is
6219
04:07:04,799 --> 04:07:06,899
building a house next
door for
6220
04:07:06,966 --> 04:07:09,766
the nannies to raise
the child.
6221
04:07:10,033 --> 04:07:11,299
And he said when they brought
6222
04:07:11,366 --> 04:07:12,633
the child around the
table at his
6223
04:07:12,700 --> 04:07:17,000
house, they basically the servants
were like presenting the
6224
04:07:17,066 --> 04:07:21,500
child and Peter was sort of like
looking at the child like,
6225
04:07:21,799 --> 04:07:23,700
yes, there he is or whatever
6226
04:07:23,766 --> 04:07:25,733
and it was like very
strange and
6227
04:07:25,799 --> 04:07:31,166
detached and that, you know, they
partied with Peter Thiel.
6228
04:07:32,266 --> 04:07:33,166
And I'll leave it at that.
6229
04:07:33,233 --> 04:07:35,866
But I had my opinions
about who
6230
04:07:35,933 --> 04:07:38,333
Peter Thiel is was
shaped about
6231
04:07:38,633 --> 04:07:39,500
by Dave Rubin.
6232
04:07:40,000 --> 04:07:40,966
It's not a guy that I want an
6233
04:07:41,033 --> 04:07:42,399
authority to make any
decisions
6234
04:07:42,466 --> 04:07:43,066
whatsoever.
6235
04:07:44,466 --> 04:07:47,500
That's a dark, dark,
dark future.
6236
04:07:47,899 --> 04:07:49,366
They just released a shit ton
6237
04:07:49,433 --> 04:07:50,700
of names that are in
this thing.
6238
04:07:51,500 --> 04:07:52,333
You seen this shit?
6239
04:07:52,700 --> 04:07:54,366
I think they did it while we
were sitting in here.
6240
04:07:54,433 --> 04:07:55,833
I just saw it on the
last break.
6241
04:07:56,500 --> 04:07:56,899
We'll put up.
6242
04:07:56,966 --> 04:07:59,633
We'll put the names up on screen
right now so everybody can
6243
04:07:59,700 --> 04:08:00,033
read them.
6244
04:08:00,666 --> 04:08:01,966
Here's a follow-up question
6245
04:08:02,533 --> 04:08:04,200
across everything you've
dug into
6246
04:08:04,266 --> 04:08:07,033
true crime, cults, criminal
networks.
6247
04:08:07,600 --> 04:08:10,533
What's the single most disturbing
thing you found that you
6248
04:08:10,600 --> 04:08:11,766
actually believe is real?
6249
04:08:15,866 --> 04:08:18,166
You come across some
dark shit, so.
6250
04:08:19,399 --> 04:08:24,066
Yeah, I mean the understanding
of the pedophilia that's all
6251
04:08:24,133 --> 04:08:24,399
real.
6252
04:08:25,366 --> 04:08:25,799
It's all real.
6253
04:08:26,166 --> 04:08:28,766
It's a cult worship and it
6254
04:08:28,833 --> 04:08:32,366
goes back to like they
believe in
6255
04:08:32,433 --> 04:08:36,266
sex magic and sex magic.
6256
04:08:36,399 --> 04:08:38,766
You could get into like Alistair
Crowley all that's real.
6257
04:08:38,833 --> 04:08:39,633
I mean he wrote books
about it.
6258
04:08:39,700 --> 04:08:40,866
It's not like they were
trying to hide it.
6259
04:08:40,933 --> 04:08:43,000
But these are the elites like
these were not these aren't
6260
04:08:43,066 --> 04:08:43,833
people that are at
the bottom.
6261
04:08:43,899 --> 04:08:47,000
It's why I find it hilarious and
people believe in the moon
6262
04:08:47,066 --> 04:08:47,399
landings.
6263
04:08:47,466 --> 04:08:49,799
I'm like, do you know the history
of the jet propulsion
6264
04:08:49,866 --> 04:08:55,533
labs and that it was created by
Alistair Crowley's acolyte?
6265
04:08:56,066 --> 04:08:57,766
A protege so to speak.
6266
04:08:58,666 --> 04:09:04,233
The they these people wrote
extensively about the sex
6267
04:09:04,299 --> 04:09:04,566
parties.
6268
04:09:04,633 --> 04:09:06,533
They were having that they thought
they could they were
6269
04:09:06,666 --> 04:09:07,500
summoning demons.
6270
04:09:07,566 --> 04:09:08,700
They were summoning demons.
6271
04:09:08,933 --> 04:09:13,266
I thought they could they were
summoning demons and they
6272
04:09:13,333 --> 04:09:13,933
harm children.
6273
04:09:14,266 --> 04:09:17,233
That is that is the world we
live in and I think that is
6274
04:09:17,299 --> 04:09:18,666
very disturbing to have to
6275
04:09:18,733 --> 04:09:22,500
contend with that and
the craziest
6276
04:09:22,566 --> 04:09:24,299
part is the people that
protect them.
6277
04:09:25,566 --> 04:09:26,100
Oh for money.
6278
04:09:27,433 --> 04:09:30,533
That's that's hard to know that
people I come up with in
6279
04:09:30,600 --> 04:09:34,766
politics will look the other
way for the right price.
6280
04:09:35,733 --> 04:09:36,399
Think about that.
6281
04:09:36,700 --> 04:09:38,933
Everyone who would have seen
was doing and then he was
6282
04:09:39,000 --> 04:09:41,166
protected and they knew they
went to prison.
6283
04:09:41,433 --> 04:09:43,133
Think about this shit
all the time.
6284
04:09:43,766 --> 04:09:51,066
It's so fascinating would be the
right word, but it's it's
6285
04:09:51,133 --> 04:09:52,833
interesting to see.
6286
04:09:55,133 --> 04:09:56,666
How old is people think that
6287
04:09:56,733 --> 04:09:58,433
they have amassed so
much power
6288
04:09:58,500 --> 04:10:01,333
but they really have
zero power.
6289
04:10:01,799 --> 04:10:04,533
The only fucking thing that they
can really do is introduce
6290
04:10:04,600 --> 04:10:05,000
a bill.
6291
04:10:05,833 --> 04:10:06,033
Mm-hmm.
6292
04:10:08,133 --> 04:10:11,466
Yeah, I mean when you when it
they can't even fucking say
6293
04:10:11,533 --> 04:10:12,666
what's on their mind.
6294
04:10:12,966 --> 04:10:14,600
Yeah, they're powerless.
6295
04:10:14,833 --> 04:10:18,200
They're fucking they're they're
they're they're controlled.
6296
04:10:18,266 --> 04:10:18,633
Mm-hmm.
6297
04:10:19,233 --> 04:10:22,666
I think that I mean I think
6298
04:10:22,733 --> 04:10:24,866
that's a way to a means
to control
6299
04:10:24,933 --> 04:10:26,899
people is to get them
into politics.
6300
04:10:27,500 --> 04:10:27,766
Yeah.
6301
04:10:29,766 --> 04:10:30,733
They control Congress.
6302
04:10:30,799 --> 04:10:31,733
There's no question about it.
6303
04:10:31,799 --> 04:10:33,799
They really think that they
have fucking power.
6304
04:10:34,200 --> 04:10:35,466
Well in many ways they find
6305
04:10:35,633 --> 04:10:37,799
people who are pedophiles
already
6306
04:10:37,866 --> 04:10:38,733
and then they empower them
6307
04:10:39,600 --> 04:10:41,666
give them churches give
them, you
6308
04:10:41,733 --> 04:10:43,100
know, I was like shocked
6309
04:10:43,166 --> 04:10:44,600
looking at the history
of the Calvary
6310
04:10:44,666 --> 04:10:47,233
Chapel Church when I was looking
into like Rob McCoy.
6311
04:10:48,233 --> 04:10:50,299
It's unbelievable how
many people like
6312
04:10:51,866 --> 04:10:55,166
are reformed whatever
and then
6313
04:10:55,233 --> 04:10:56,366
are not end up being reformed
6314
04:10:56,433 --> 04:10:56,933
at all.
6315
04:10:58,133 --> 04:10:59,799
It's it's a system.
6316
04:11:00,600 --> 04:11:02,466
It's for sure system and
6317
04:11:02,799 --> 04:11:04,200
that's not imagined and
you need to
6318
04:11:04,266 --> 04:11:07,633
wake up and realize that our world
is in fact being run by
6319
04:11:07,700 --> 04:11:08,166
pedophiles.
6320
04:11:08,233 --> 04:11:08,966
That's a fact.
6321
04:11:10,133 --> 04:11:12,266
And if the Epstein thing didn't
wake you up to the fact but
6322
04:11:12,333 --> 04:11:14,633
it's left and right, you're
still asleep.
6323
04:11:14,966 --> 04:11:16,166
If you think that
our troubles
6324
04:11:16,233 --> 04:11:18,433
in this country are
white versus
6325
04:11:18,500 --> 04:11:19,866
black, you're still asleep.
6326
04:11:20,366 --> 04:11:23,500
If you think it's gay versus straight,
you're still asleep.
6327
04:11:24,000 --> 04:11:25,566
If you think it's like, you
6328
04:11:25,633 --> 04:11:29,200
know, feminism versus
chauvinism,
6329
04:11:29,266 --> 04:11:30,133
you're still asleep.
6330
04:11:30,966 --> 04:11:32,266
We've got way bigger problems
6331
04:11:32,333 --> 04:11:33,399
and these are ancient
problems
6332
04:11:33,466 --> 04:11:34,700
that we have people that
6333
04:11:34,766 --> 04:11:37,966
worship and summon demons
and believe
6334
04:11:38,033 --> 04:11:40,533
in the occult and do it
in your face.
6335
04:11:40,600 --> 04:11:43,133
I believe Charlie's assassination
was an occult ritual.
6336
04:11:43,799 --> 04:11:44,500
Everything about it.
6337
04:11:45,399 --> 04:11:46,166
Yeah, everything about it.
6338
04:11:46,766 --> 04:11:47,833
And I believe the people
around
6339
04:11:47,899 --> 04:11:50,033
him are into dark demonic
stuff.
6340
04:11:50,233 --> 04:11:53,566
I mean when you told me at dinner
that he was assassinated
6341
04:11:53,633 --> 04:11:55,666
in the middle of a pentagram.
6342
04:11:56,366 --> 04:11:58,033
I was like, holy shit.
6343
04:11:58,100 --> 04:12:01,333
When someone sent me an old Freemason
Bible and it showed
6344
04:12:01,733 --> 04:12:03,566
how they believe that
you have
6345
04:12:03,633 --> 04:12:05,733
to be in a pentagram
to sacrifice
6346
04:12:06,866 --> 04:12:09,000
someone literally shows you
6347
04:12:09,066 --> 04:12:10,399
like there's a map
inside of the
6348
04:12:10,466 --> 04:12:12,666
Freemason Bible and I looked
at it and I said,
6349
04:12:13,133 --> 04:12:14,399
Charlie was sitting in
a pentagram.
6350
04:12:16,700 --> 04:12:18,266
Sorry, where did the Freemasons
come from?
6351
04:12:20,799 --> 04:12:22,266
Well, you know the history
of that.
6352
04:12:22,333 --> 04:12:23,733
Yeah, actually just read a
6353
04:12:23,799 --> 04:12:25,399
book for our book in
our book club
6354
04:12:26,133 --> 04:12:29,666
called The Secret History of
America by Nicholas Hager.
6355
04:12:30,433 --> 04:12:33,799
Really, really important read
an academic read but a very
6356
04:12:34,100 --> 04:12:36,133
challenge and one an important
one to get into the history
6357
04:12:36,666 --> 04:12:41,500
of Freemasonry and you I guess
Freemasonry in many ways,
6358
04:12:41,666 --> 04:12:44,466
obviously the traces it's
traces back.
6359
04:12:44,566 --> 04:12:45,200
It's biblical.
6360
04:12:46,000 --> 04:12:47,233
So you have to think about
different iterations.
6361
04:12:47,299 --> 04:12:48,600
So it's like Solomon's
Temple.
6362
04:12:48,666 --> 04:12:50,866
The masons of the temple is kind
of what they're hinting to
6363
04:12:50,933 --> 04:12:53,866
hinting at but in terms of like
the modern introduction to
6364
04:12:53,933 --> 04:12:55,666
Western society, it begins
6365
04:12:55,733 --> 04:12:59,899
with Francis Bacon and
Paris where
6366
04:12:59,966 --> 04:13:03,100
Paris seems to be the home of a
lot of the things that have
6367
04:13:03,166 --> 04:13:05,200
happened in these in these
secret societies.
6368
04:13:05,266 --> 04:13:07,366
It's like they go to Paris to
be initiated the same thing
6369
04:13:07,433 --> 04:13:08,233
for Sigmund Freud.
6370
04:13:08,866 --> 04:13:10,533
He said he studied
under Charco.
6371
04:13:11,799 --> 04:13:13,399
And he was similarly
initiated.
6372
04:13:13,466 --> 04:13:18,066
I don't think it's a coincidence
that Paris's code is 33.
6373
04:13:18,333 --> 04:13:19,333
You have to dial up to Paris.
6374
04:13:19,399 --> 04:13:19,799
It's 33.
6375
04:13:21,299 --> 04:13:22,600
It's one of the French
Revolution.
6376
04:13:22,666 --> 04:13:24,933
There's a lot that has happened
in Paris as a lot of evil
6377
04:13:25,000 --> 04:13:27,733
is taking place.
6378
04:13:28,233 --> 04:13:31,733
But the Freemason Society, I
mean this gets into the
6379
04:13:31,799 --> 04:13:34,633
infiltration of the Knights
6380
04:13:34,700 --> 04:13:36,733
Templar intentional
infiltration
6381
04:13:36,799 --> 04:13:40,266
by Adam Weissopt who was
6382
04:13:40,333 --> 04:13:42,933
funding the infiltration
of various
6383
04:13:43,000 --> 04:13:45,933
Freemason groups and bringing
them all together under the
6384
04:13:46,000 --> 04:13:46,633
Illuminati.
6385
04:13:47,233 --> 04:13:50,899
Our founding fathers were Freemasons
and the Nicholas
6386
04:13:50,966 --> 04:13:52,533
Hager book carefully
walks you
6387
04:13:52,600 --> 04:13:54,100
through even the symbolism on
6388
04:13:54,166 --> 04:13:55,533
the back of a one
dollar bill.
6389
04:13:56,733 --> 04:14:01,766
And to be clear, when they joined
the Illuminati, it was
6390
04:14:02,933 --> 04:14:05,533
after the Revolutionary War.
6391
04:14:06,133 --> 04:14:08,700
But they were always it was
6392
04:14:08,766 --> 04:14:10,166
always on in mind and
Adam Weissopt
6393
04:14:10,233 --> 04:14:16,700
wasn't open Satanist with using
Christianity as a shell to
6394
04:14:16,766 --> 04:14:18,733
further their satanic causes.
6395
04:14:19,166 --> 04:14:20,700
So you have to really go
6396
04:14:20,766 --> 04:14:23,200
backward to understand
the theology,
6397
04:14:23,533 --> 04:14:26,266
the infiltration, how the
6398
04:14:26,333 --> 04:14:28,733
Scottish Rite, which
is the Scottish
6399
04:14:28,799 --> 04:14:29,833
Rite of Freemasons, which had
6400
04:14:29,899 --> 04:14:31,033
everything to do with
establishing
6401
04:14:31,100 --> 04:14:39,866
America was really dating back
from France and the Catholic
6402
04:14:39,933 --> 04:14:42,299
Church having Jack
Demolay hung.
6403
04:14:42,366 --> 04:14:42,933
I think he was hung.
6404
04:14:43,000 --> 04:14:45,533
He was killed and
these groups
6405
04:14:45,600 --> 04:14:47,833
then went into Scotland
and you
6406
04:14:47,899 --> 04:14:50,866
can just that book just helps you
trace how these Freemason
6407
04:14:50,933 --> 04:14:52,433
groups arrived into America
6408
04:14:52,799 --> 04:14:55,433
and for them it was
seen as a new
6409
04:14:55,500 --> 04:14:56,299
Atlantis.
6410
04:14:56,533 --> 04:14:58,433
Okay, we keep getting caught
6411
04:14:58,500 --> 04:14:59,666
doing all this crazy
stuff across
6412
04:14:59,733 --> 04:15:00,733
the European continent.
6413
04:15:00,799 --> 04:15:02,899
It's always been a war against
the Catholic Church.
6414
04:15:03,233 --> 04:15:04,466
They're all explicit in their
6415
04:15:04,533 --> 04:15:05,766
hatred of the Catholic
Church,
6416
04:15:05,833 --> 04:15:07,233
which is very compelling
to me.
6417
04:15:07,466 --> 04:15:11,066
It's why do you think they're against
the Catholic so much?
6418
04:15:11,566 --> 04:15:14,000
Because the Catholics were calling
them what they were
6419
04:15:14,500 --> 04:15:15,233
Satanists.
6420
04:15:15,933 --> 04:15:17,733
I mean this the rewrite
of history.
6421
04:15:19,233 --> 04:15:20,266
Isabella of Spain.
6422
04:15:20,566 --> 04:15:21,366
She should be sainted.
6423
04:15:23,500 --> 04:15:24,500
They're constantly everything
6424
04:15:24,566 --> 04:15:25,633
you've learned about
Catholicism
6425
04:15:25,700 --> 04:15:27,899
and the history of Catholicism
is just crap in school.
6426
04:15:28,133 --> 04:15:28,866
And there's a reason for that
6427
04:15:28,933 --> 04:15:30,233
because America was
designed to
6428
04:15:30,299 --> 04:15:34,100
be anti-Catholic to be anti-Orthodox
and the reason is
6429
04:15:34,166 --> 04:15:35,366
because Catholics hold
the history.
6430
04:15:35,700 --> 04:15:37,166
They know what they were doing
on that continent.
6431
04:15:37,233 --> 04:15:40,766
America was supposed to be kept
fat, happy and young.
6432
04:15:41,799 --> 04:15:44,000
I truly believe that and now
6433
04:15:44,066 --> 04:15:45,633
America well, we were
fat, happy
6434
04:15:45,700 --> 04:15:48,633
and young for 250 years and now
we're arriving into our
6435
04:15:48,700 --> 04:15:49,866
adolescent phase and people
6436
04:15:49,933 --> 04:15:50,899
are starting to look
in the right
6437
04:15:50,966 --> 04:15:51,333
places.
6438
04:15:51,399 --> 04:15:53,033
It's why I encourage people
to go to Russia.
6439
04:15:53,533 --> 04:15:56,933
Russia holds the key to a lot
of secrets of these maniacal
6440
04:15:57,000 --> 04:15:58,799
psychopaths who have arrived
6441
04:15:58,866 --> 04:16:00,166
in America who say
well my great
6442
04:16:00,233 --> 04:16:03,500
father so and so went to Russia
got you clocks know exactly
6443
04:16:03,566 --> 04:16:05,166
who your great grandfather
must
6444
04:16:05,233 --> 04:16:06,833
have been in your blood
thirst.
6445
04:16:07,200 --> 04:16:09,066
The Bible says you will know
them by their fruits.
6446
04:16:09,133 --> 04:16:09,566
You do.
6447
04:16:10,633 --> 04:16:11,033
You do.
6448
04:16:11,500 --> 04:16:16,433
Do you have to imagine who Mark
Levin's ancestors were who
6449
04:16:16,500 --> 04:16:17,366
were in Russia?
6450
04:16:17,766 --> 04:16:18,899
No, I got a guess.
6451
04:16:18,966 --> 04:16:19,899
I'm going to guess they were
6452
04:16:20,333 --> 04:16:21,600
killing the shit out
of Bolsheviks
6453
04:16:21,666 --> 04:16:22,466
if I just had to guess.
6454
04:16:22,533 --> 04:16:24,233
I mean they were killing the
6455
04:16:24,466 --> 04:16:25,733
shit out of Christians
if I had
6456
04:16:25,799 --> 04:16:26,333
to guess.
6457
04:16:26,700 --> 04:16:27,799
I mean they must have
been running.
6458
04:16:27,866 --> 04:16:29,133
They must have built the
Gulag system.
6459
04:16:29,366 --> 04:16:33,466
There's a bloodlust that exists
in an anger that is just so
6460
04:16:33,533 --> 04:16:35,600
perceptible that that's
why you
6461
04:16:35,666 --> 04:16:36,333
say you will know them
by their
6462
04:16:36,399 --> 04:16:36,799
fruits.
6463
04:16:36,866 --> 04:16:38,166
It's the way they speak
about people.
6464
04:16:38,233 --> 04:16:40,000
There's a happiness in their
6465
04:16:40,066 --> 04:16:41,133
eyes when they're talking
about
6466
04:16:41,200 --> 04:16:41,799
like murder.
6467
04:16:41,866 --> 04:16:42,500
It's weird.
6468
04:16:43,766 --> 04:16:47,899
Sometimes when I watch clips
that will go viral of Ben
6469
04:16:47,966 --> 04:16:51,000
Shapiro or Mark Levin,
there's
6470
04:16:51,066 --> 04:16:52,933
something in their
like demeanor
6471
04:16:53,000 --> 04:16:55,500
and their eyes that is
it's so dark.
6472
04:16:55,866 --> 04:16:58,399
I mean, it's so dark where
you really go.
6473
04:16:58,600 --> 04:17:00,133
I think you are happy.
6474
04:17:00,799 --> 04:17:05,600
It makes you happy when kids
are being killed in Gaza.
6475
04:17:05,666 --> 04:17:07,566
Like there's something it's
very disturbing.
6476
04:17:07,733 --> 04:17:10,833
They're not having the same reaction
as we are having and
6477
04:17:10,899 --> 04:17:11,933
you see it in their tweets.
6478
04:17:12,033 --> 04:17:15,266
It's a it's they're hungry for
more death and destruction.
6479
04:17:15,333 --> 04:17:16,233
Oh, no, I've seen it.
6480
04:17:16,299 --> 04:17:17,466
I've seen it in person.
6481
04:17:17,566 --> 04:17:18,100
It's dark.
6482
04:17:18,166 --> 04:17:19,299
I've seen it here in
this room.
6483
04:17:19,500 --> 04:17:20,066
It's dark.
6484
04:17:22,133 --> 04:17:25,600
That can only come from worshipping
the fuck out of
6485
04:17:25,666 --> 04:17:27,033
and foaming at the mouth.
6486
04:17:27,633 --> 04:17:30,966
Yeah, that can only come from
the Prince of Darkness.
6487
04:17:32,600 --> 04:17:39,133
Because when spirits are light
and happy and you have a
6488
04:17:39,500 --> 04:17:41,533
reaction to seeing a dead kid
doesn't matter what the race
6489
04:17:41,600 --> 04:17:44,299
of the kid is doesn't matter what
the race of the kid is.
6490
04:17:44,600 --> 04:17:45,799
You don't get up on the
airways and go.
6491
04:17:45,866 --> 04:17:47,666
Oh, well, that's what
happens.
6492
04:17:47,733 --> 04:17:48,833
You're gonna get some
more of that.
6493
04:17:49,500 --> 04:17:51,166
Like what Ben Gavir
is saying.
6494
04:17:51,233 --> 04:17:53,766
There's something very wrong
with these people.
6495
04:17:54,366 --> 04:17:59,000
And so you don't have to imagine
who they are the children
6496
04:17:59,066 --> 04:18:03,399
of. And that's why you don't have
to get into the weeds on
6497
04:18:03,466 --> 04:18:10,633
it either. It's like, you know,
God gave you intuition, you
6498
04:18:10,700 --> 04:18:12,333
know, he gave you intuition
to know.
6499
04:18:16,333 --> 04:18:20,166
When somebody is spiritually disturbed
and that's putting
6500
04:18:20,233 --> 04:18:26,266
it mildly. Something about
post October 7th.
6501
04:18:26,600 --> 04:18:30,066
You can see the flicker of demonology
in their eyes now.
6502
04:18:31,500 --> 04:18:33,700
And the satisfaction they get
from knowing that they're
6503
04:18:33,766 --> 04:18:35,000
hurting other people.
6504
04:18:35,766 --> 04:18:37,266
I mean, we just read
that tweet.
6505
04:18:37,666 --> 04:18:39,666
Yeah. Honest.
6506
04:18:39,733 --> 04:18:41,166
There's a thousand more
just like it.
6507
04:18:41,766 --> 04:18:42,333
Honest.
6508
04:18:42,633 --> 04:18:44,966
From other people in powerful
positions over there.
6509
04:18:45,100 --> 04:18:50,899
Mm-hmm. There's just there's been
so many things that just
6510
04:18:50,966 --> 04:18:57,466
I mean, to me that prove how
bad the influence is like
6511
04:18:57,533 --> 04:19:01,066
sending that fucking pedophile
back to Israel.
6512
04:19:01,133 --> 04:19:02,466
You know, but you saw
that right?
6513
04:19:03,399 --> 04:19:06,833
He was on the cyber team or they're
one of the top guys
6514
04:19:06,899 --> 04:19:10,500
in their cyber security fucking
wing of the idea.
6515
04:19:10,566 --> 04:19:11,100
I don't know.
6516
04:19:11,166 --> 04:19:15,633
Whatever. Came here,
Loryn, what?
6517
04:19:16,866 --> 04:19:18,000
12 year olds or something
then
6518
04:19:18,066 --> 04:19:20,033
on the Internet to fuck them.
6519
04:19:20,866 --> 04:19:21,899
We didn't do anything to him.
6520
04:19:22,266 --> 04:19:25,500
We just packaged him up and
sent him back to Israel.
6521
04:19:26,466 --> 04:19:27,799
Where he can do that
freely by
6522
04:19:27,866 --> 04:19:28,666
the way, because they've been
6523
04:19:28,733 --> 04:19:30,933
harboring and protecting
pedophiles for a while.
6524
04:19:31,266 --> 04:19:32,566
We're just cattle to
him, right?
6525
04:19:34,100 --> 04:19:38,100
Because it gets into that Frankest
faith that actually
6526
04:19:38,166 --> 04:19:42,100
dominates the Frankest beginnings,
the Frankest origins of
6527
04:19:42,166 --> 04:19:45,066
Israel. That's that's
not Judaism.
6528
04:19:46,799 --> 04:19:49,399
The Star of David is not
the Star of David.
6529
04:19:50,366 --> 04:19:51,733
It's Solomon's keys.
6530
04:19:51,799 --> 04:19:53,233
Look up at Alistair Crowley's
book.
6531
04:19:53,299 --> 04:19:55,433
He's got the Star of David
all over it.
6532
04:19:58,033 --> 04:19:59,266
It's about summoning demons.
6533
04:19:59,333 --> 04:20:00,366
It's Baal worship.
6534
04:20:01,933 --> 04:20:04,233
And they don't want you to
6535
04:20:04,299 --> 04:20:06,633
peer to know the history
of that.
6536
04:20:07,333 --> 04:20:08,166
That's the reality.
6537
04:20:09,033 --> 04:20:10,166
So Star of David.
6538
04:20:12,866 --> 04:20:16,066
But people are waking up to
6539
04:20:16,133 --> 04:20:17,266
that and I think that's
why they
6540
04:20:17,333 --> 04:20:18,733
have a certain.
6541
04:20:22,833 --> 04:20:24,500
It's almost like they're under
pressure right now.
6542
04:20:25,899 --> 04:20:29,433
Like their lust for destruction
has never been louder.
6543
04:20:29,500 --> 04:20:31,533
They're not even they're like
shape-shifting.
6544
04:20:32,066 --> 04:20:33,066
I think it's the best
way to put it.
6545
04:20:33,133 --> 04:20:34,899
I feel like we're watching
people
6546
04:20:35,166 --> 04:20:37,799
who used to play human
shape-shift
6547
04:20:37,866 --> 04:20:39,600
into demons in real life.
6548
04:20:41,000 --> 04:20:44,866
What do you think about
all this UFO UAP?
6549
04:20:46,866 --> 04:20:50,133
Alien shit that's coming out all
of a sudden distraction.
6550
04:20:50,766 --> 04:20:52,366
Do you think it's a
distraction?
6551
04:20:53,833 --> 04:20:55,000
Yeah, or do you think it's a
6552
04:20:55,066 --> 04:20:55,933
narrative and they're
going to try
6553
04:20:56,000 --> 04:20:58,633
to pull a false flag
alien invasion?
6554
04:20:59,033 --> 04:21:02,399
I think the government has had
technology and has hidden
6555
04:21:02,466 --> 04:21:08,666
technology for a long time and
I think whenever they start
6556
04:21:08,733 --> 04:21:10,299
threatening to do disclosures
6557
04:21:10,366 --> 04:21:13,100
in a time where people
are waking
6558
04:21:13,166 --> 04:21:14,566
up about the ultimate
6559
04:21:14,633 --> 04:21:16,733
disclosure, which is who
rules over us.
6560
04:21:17,333 --> 04:21:18,000
It's a distraction.
6561
04:21:18,366 --> 04:21:19,833
Yeah, you've had a
lot of time
6562
04:21:20,133 --> 04:21:22,899
to give us this and now there
6563
04:21:22,966 --> 04:21:28,666
seems to be a real awakening
happening.
6564
04:21:28,766 --> 04:21:30,299
People talking about demons,
6565
04:21:30,366 --> 04:21:31,866
people talking about
the occult.
6566
04:21:32,600 --> 04:21:34,066
People talking about ball
6567
04:21:34,133 --> 04:21:39,200
worshippers and child
sacrifice and that's
6568
04:21:39,266 --> 04:21:39,833
a real threat.
6569
04:21:40,066 --> 04:21:42,366
That's personally what I think
all this UAP shit is.
6570
04:21:42,433 --> 04:21:44,100
I think it's all demonic
entities.
6571
04:21:44,899 --> 04:21:47,766
There are demonic entities
around us.
6572
04:21:51,566 --> 04:21:52,633
I also think it's interesting
6573
04:21:52,700 --> 04:21:56,766
how it is resurfaced
right in the
6574
04:21:56,833 --> 04:21:59,000
midst of the Epstein
shit, right
6575
04:21:59,066 --> 04:22:00,666
in the midst of Pam
Bondi saying
6576
04:22:00,833 --> 04:22:03,466
the Dow's at 50,000.
6577
04:22:04,033 --> 04:22:07,600
How many people do you have
coming after you?
6578
04:22:08,866 --> 04:22:12,200
How many death threats do you
get all day every day?
6579
04:22:14,133 --> 04:22:15,200
Do you take them seriously?
6580
04:22:15,266 --> 04:22:15,566
Yeah.
6581
04:22:16,600 --> 04:22:19,433
Yeah, we have a person in jail
for trying to kill me.
6582
04:22:20,100 --> 04:22:21,200
Yeah, I take them seriously
6583
04:22:22,033 --> 04:22:23,566
because I said I tried
to kill you
6584
04:22:23,666 --> 04:22:25,200
for talking about Jewish
history
6585
04:22:25,266 --> 04:22:29,466
talking about that Rabbi
Schneerson
6586
04:22:29,533 --> 04:22:31,733
tomb that Trump prayed over
6587
04:22:31,799 --> 04:22:33,033
and they all go into
Brooklyn and
6588
04:22:33,100 --> 04:22:34,133
pray over that guy.
6589
04:22:34,866 --> 04:22:36,066
You should look into
that guy.
6590
04:22:36,133 --> 04:22:36,566
What?
6591
04:22:37,466 --> 04:22:38,266
What tomb?
6592
04:22:38,666 --> 04:22:39,799
Yeah, you start talking about
6593
04:22:39,866 --> 04:22:41,399
the Habad Lubavitch
and they lose
6594
04:22:41,466 --> 04:22:43,533
their minds, the history of the
Habad Lubavitch, but if you
6595
04:22:43,600 --> 04:22:46,200
open up looking into Sigmund
6596
04:22:46,266 --> 04:22:48,333
Freud, if everyone listening
could
6597
04:22:48,399 --> 04:22:49,966
just read the assault
on truth
6598
04:22:50,833 --> 04:22:52,899
and the second book after you
6599
04:22:52,966 --> 04:22:56,000
read that is Sigmund
Freud and
6600
04:22:56,066 --> 04:22:57,566
the Jewish mystical
tradition.
6601
04:22:58,899 --> 04:22:59,633
You'll figure it out.
6602
04:23:00,133 --> 04:23:00,466
All right.
6603
04:23:00,933 --> 04:23:01,700
You'll figure it out.
6604
04:23:03,000 --> 04:23:04,066
I got you another present.
6605
04:23:04,600 --> 04:23:04,733
Hmm.
6606
04:23:05,166 --> 04:23:06,266
I got you another present.
6607
04:23:06,600 --> 04:23:07,100
What is it?
6608
04:23:07,266 --> 04:23:08,000
Here, let me grab it.
6609
04:23:08,266 --> 04:23:09,366
Actually love presents.
6610
04:23:09,666 --> 04:23:10,166
Me too.
6611
04:23:10,466 --> 04:23:10,733
Yeah.
6612
04:23:12,200 --> 04:23:13,666
Honestly, the gummies were
really good.
6613
04:23:16,433 --> 04:23:17,566
I've been such as so many
6614
04:23:17,633 --> 04:23:21,766
people coming after you,
you know, so
6615
04:23:22,633 --> 04:23:23,899
you familiar with six hour?
6616
04:23:25,600 --> 04:23:26,833
Yes, I am actually.
6617
04:23:27,033 --> 04:23:27,366
Good.
6618
04:23:27,433 --> 04:23:27,966
Yes.
6619
04:23:28,266 --> 04:23:29,333
So I got a buddy over there.
6620
04:23:29,399 --> 04:23:30,333
His name's Jason.
6621
04:23:30,600 --> 04:23:35,333
Okay, and Jason is the VP of
marketing over there.
6622
04:23:35,399 --> 04:23:38,100
He got really excited knowing
that you're coming on.
6623
04:23:38,166 --> 04:23:40,433
So I told him I thought a lot
6624
04:23:40,500 --> 04:23:41,466
of people are coming
after you.
6625
04:23:41,533 --> 04:23:43,966
So he wanted me to present
you with this.
6626
04:23:44,033 --> 04:23:45,133
That is so nice.
6627
04:23:45,200 --> 04:23:45,899
Jason.
6628
04:23:45,966 --> 04:23:47,366
Yes, that is so sweet.
6629
04:23:47,666 --> 04:23:49,533
I'll tell you they're
awesome too.
6630
04:23:49,966 --> 04:23:50,433
Six hour.
6631
04:23:50,933 --> 04:23:54,766
Like really good company
and yeah, the best.
6632
04:23:55,166 --> 04:23:57,133
We're just talking about
pedophiles earlier.
6633
04:23:57,866 --> 04:23:59,166
We did this big episode on
6634
04:23:59,233 --> 04:24:03,166
Roblox with this kid named
schlep and
6635
04:24:03,233 --> 04:24:08,166
he he unveiled what was going
on on Roblox.
6636
04:24:08,233 --> 04:24:09,733
We scream recorded the whole
6637
04:24:09,799 --> 04:24:12,899
thing and they were
using so the
6638
04:24:12,966 --> 04:24:14,733
developers were putting
six hours.
6639
04:24:14,799 --> 04:24:15,933
They have one game.
6640
04:24:16,700 --> 04:24:18,766
They've recreated the Sandy
Hook shooting.
6641
04:24:18,833 --> 04:24:20,000
They've recreated pretty much
6642
04:24:20,066 --> 04:24:21,799
all the mass shootings
and you
6643
04:24:21,866 --> 04:24:23,733
go and you go in there
and they
6644
04:24:23,799 --> 04:24:25,899
actually even have
the victims
6645
04:24:25,966 --> 04:24:27,666
that were killed in
the schools.
6646
04:24:29,066 --> 04:24:31,033
Over the characters heads and
6647
04:24:31,100 --> 04:24:32,666
you go in there as
the shooter
6648
04:24:32,733 --> 04:24:35,600
and kill these fucking kids.
6649
04:24:35,733 --> 04:24:39,100
No, and one of the weapons
they have is a SIG sour.
6650
04:24:39,799 --> 04:24:45,000
So we got it to SIG and SIG demanded
Roblox take all their
6651
04:24:45,066 --> 04:24:46,233
weapons out of the game.
6652
04:24:46,299 --> 04:24:47,133
Wow.
6653
04:24:48,200 --> 04:24:48,766
They're awesome.
6654
04:24:49,366 --> 04:24:49,500
So disturbing.
6655
04:24:49,566 --> 04:24:51,066
So disturbing that that
was even a thing.
6656
04:24:51,266 --> 04:24:54,966
I mean, they want your kids
one way or the other.
6657
04:24:55,033 --> 04:24:58,600
They want their minds and
it's we have to fight.
6658
04:24:58,666 --> 04:24:59,733
We have to be the generation
6659
04:24:59,799 --> 04:25:02,000
that fights back like
and we're
6660
04:25:02,066 --> 04:25:03,000
only going to fight back by
6661
04:25:03,066 --> 04:25:05,233
recognizing that it's
real conspiracy.
6662
04:25:05,366 --> 04:25:05,766
It's real.
6663
04:25:06,433 --> 04:25:07,533
So anyways, here you go.
6664
04:25:07,600 --> 04:25:10,333
This is the wow 365.
6665
04:25:10,566 --> 04:25:12,200
Thank you Jason over at SIG
6666
04:25:12,266 --> 04:25:15,066
sour with the new Romeo
X optic.
6667
04:25:15,133 --> 04:25:17,933
That's a SIG sour can
6668
04:25:18,000 --> 04:25:20,666
suppressor there so won't
be too loud.
6669
04:25:20,733 --> 04:25:22,700
Take 17 rounds plus one
in the pipe.
6670
04:25:22,766 --> 04:25:23,633
You pedophiles.
6671
04:25:23,799 --> 04:25:24,333
What's that?
6672
04:25:24,399 --> 04:25:27,100
Take out a few pedophiles
quietly quietly.
6673
04:25:27,333 --> 04:25:27,933
That'll do it.
6674
04:25:28,000 --> 04:25:29,399
Yeah, that's amazing.
6675
04:25:29,466 --> 04:25:30,433
Thank you so much.
6676
04:25:30,500 --> 04:25:30,966
You're welcome.
6677
04:25:31,033 --> 04:25:32,166
It's absolutely amazing.
6678
04:25:32,333 --> 04:25:33,000
You're welcome.
6679
04:25:33,700 --> 04:25:34,899
Maybe we can break that in on
6680
04:25:34,966 --> 04:25:36,233
the range before you
head out.
6681
04:25:36,299 --> 04:25:37,100
Yeah, there we go.
6682
04:25:37,299 --> 04:25:37,633
Right.
6683
04:25:37,700 --> 04:25:38,033
Yeah.
6684
04:25:39,333 --> 04:25:43,600
Oh, that's so kind as I mean
people are so kind.
6685
04:25:43,666 --> 04:25:44,100
No, I know.
6686
04:25:44,166 --> 04:25:45,500
Well, I mean people are
just amazing.
6687
04:25:45,566 --> 04:25:48,200
They've just been in
so many ways.
6688
04:25:48,266 --> 04:25:52,600
I mean, that's what that's
what keeps you going.
6689
04:25:53,799 --> 04:25:55,733
You have to reminded that
we're the majority.
6690
04:25:55,966 --> 04:25:57,866
Don't forget what Charlie
said, right?
6691
04:25:59,766 --> 04:26:00,700
There's always more slaves.
6692
04:26:00,866 --> 04:26:01,166
Yeah.
6693
04:26:01,933 --> 04:26:02,233
Yeah.
6694
04:26:03,633 --> 04:26:05,133
And so get into the go ahead.
6695
04:26:05,633 --> 04:26:07,366
I just I know I feel
the energy
6696
04:26:07,433 --> 04:26:08,533
of that then I feel like
it though.
6697
04:26:09,100 --> 04:26:10,066
They feel threatened.
6698
04:26:14,200 --> 04:26:16,866
How'd you get into the Catholicism
my husband?
6699
04:26:18,733 --> 04:26:19,966
He converted Catholicism.
6700
04:26:21,333 --> 04:26:23,866
He read they say read
theology.
6701
04:26:23,933 --> 04:26:25,433
We would say majored
in theology
6702
04:26:25,500 --> 04:26:31,299
in college and he went
in which
6703
04:26:31,366 --> 04:26:32,233
was a very big deal.
6704
04:26:32,299 --> 04:26:34,200
Obviously in England
decided to
6705
04:26:34,266 --> 04:26:36,500
convert to Catholicism
in his last
6706
04:26:36,566 --> 04:26:39,466
year of school after studying
theology.
6707
04:26:40,466 --> 04:26:43,933
And once we had our
kid, he was
6708
04:26:44,000 --> 04:26:45,966
really being pulled
back into the
6709
04:26:46,033 --> 04:26:49,633
church and spending a lot of time
there and really getting
6710
04:26:49,700 --> 04:26:51,200
involved and it was
sort of just
6711
04:26:51,266 --> 04:26:53,000
this another layer
of my husband
6712
04:26:53,066 --> 04:26:53,933
that I wanted to know.
6713
04:26:54,799 --> 04:26:55,633
I just I didn't get it.
6714
04:26:56,033 --> 04:26:56,899
I did not get it all.
6715
04:26:56,966 --> 04:27:01,166
And so as I am I decided
I wanted
6716
04:27:01,366 --> 04:27:03,799
to understand it and
it was sort
6717
04:27:03,866 --> 04:27:05,966
of this perfect storm
of where I
6718
04:27:06,033 --> 04:27:08,299
was at politically
reading about
6719
04:27:08,366 --> 04:27:11,200
Sigmund Freud and his deep hatred
for the Catholic Church.
6720
04:27:11,533 --> 04:27:12,466
I mean deep hatred for the
6721
04:27:12,533 --> 04:27:15,500
Catholic Church and basically
creating
6722
04:27:15,833 --> 04:27:17,299
modern psychology as a way to
6723
04:27:17,366 --> 04:27:19,533
counter the Catholic
Church to
6724
04:27:19,600 --> 04:27:22,299
replace the priests with
6725
04:27:22,899 --> 04:27:26,299
therapists, you know,
to disrupt that
6726
04:27:26,366 --> 04:27:29,500
system and I was going
wow every
6727
04:27:29,566 --> 04:27:30,833
time I read a book
it somehow is
6728
04:27:30,899 --> 04:27:32,200
telling me that the
Freemasons
6729
04:27:32,266 --> 04:27:33,966
were very anti-Catholic
and I'm not
6730
04:27:34,033 --> 04:27:34,633
looking for it.
6731
04:27:35,566 --> 04:27:36,500
Even that book I just
mentioned
6732
04:27:36,566 --> 04:27:38,333
to you tells you about
how they
6733
04:27:38,766 --> 04:27:39,899
were ever intentional about
6734
04:27:39,966 --> 04:27:41,266
making sure that the
New Atlantis
6735
04:27:41,333 --> 04:27:42,399
would not be Catholic.
6736
04:27:42,833 --> 04:27:44,733
So once I was awake to the
6737
04:27:45,133 --> 04:27:48,466
Freemasonic hatred and
the pedophile
6738
04:27:48,533 --> 04:27:50,233
protecting hatred toward the
6739
04:27:50,299 --> 04:27:51,933
Catholic Church and how
they plan to
6740
04:27:52,000 --> 04:27:54,866
infiltrate and break
her apart
6741
04:27:54,933 --> 04:27:56,266
from the inside and break
apart the
6742
04:27:56,333 --> 04:27:57,833
Catholic Empire that way.
6743
04:27:58,533 --> 04:28:05,299
I saw this sort of
big piece of
6744
04:28:05,366 --> 04:28:08,899
history really that I
was compelled
6745
04:28:08,966 --> 04:28:11,299
toward and there has
to be for
6746
04:28:11,366 --> 04:28:12,533
something to try to destroy
it that
6747
04:28:12,600 --> 04:28:14,433
bad for Satan to hate
it that bad.
6748
04:28:15,200 --> 04:28:17,133
It's because it represents
truth.
6749
04:28:17,933 --> 04:28:20,000
And so I am very compelled
toward
6750
04:28:20,066 --> 04:28:22,433
learning the Orthodox
tradition,
6751
04:28:23,100 --> 04:28:24,133
the Catholic tradition.
6752
04:28:24,200 --> 04:28:25,566
I am my mind is there.
6753
04:28:25,633 --> 04:28:27,433
I mean Russia was just
recently
6754
04:28:27,500 --> 04:28:31,566
went to Russia and I'm
just floored at
6755
04:28:31,633 --> 04:28:32,233
how much is there.
6756
04:28:32,299 --> 04:28:33,600
I mean I need to spend
time in
6757
04:28:33,666 --> 04:28:36,366
Russia to be able to
hold artifacts
6758
04:28:36,433 --> 04:28:36,966
that old.
6759
04:28:37,833 --> 04:28:41,399
I was I did an interview
with a guy.
6760
04:28:43,066 --> 04:28:43,933
His name is Nikita.
6761
04:28:44,000 --> 04:28:46,433
He's an incredible very
accomplished director.
6762
04:28:46,600 --> 04:28:49,066
Anyway, he I asked
him something
6763
04:28:49,133 --> 04:28:50,200
he had something in his
office and I
6764
04:28:50,266 --> 04:28:51,433
was like, oh how old is this?
6765
04:28:51,500 --> 04:28:52,433
And he sort of laughed.
6766
04:28:52,500 --> 04:28:54,799
He said older than America.
6767
04:28:57,566 --> 04:28:59,266
There's something about
that, you
6768
04:28:59,333 --> 04:29:03,966
know, I and I felt so
like a spiritual
6769
04:29:04,033 --> 04:29:05,833
thirst for more of Russia
like the
6770
04:29:05,899 --> 04:29:07,133
secrets like they've
just been sort
6771
04:29:07,200 --> 04:29:08,266
of waiting and they've
kept the
6772
04:29:08,333 --> 04:29:10,633
books and before they
were translated
6773
04:29:10,700 --> 04:29:15,266
and taken and I yeah,
I just I
6774
04:29:15,333 --> 04:29:16,399
really want to spend
more time in
6775
04:29:16,466 --> 04:29:17,066
Moscow.
6776
04:29:17,166 --> 04:29:18,866
You like it there loved it.
6777
04:29:19,433 --> 04:29:21,533
What misconceptions do we
have about Russia?
6778
04:29:21,633 --> 04:29:24,933
All of them all of them and
6779
04:29:26,200 --> 04:29:28,966
there's a search notice
a pattern that is
6780
04:29:29,033 --> 04:29:31,399
the Zionists really
hate Russia
6781
04:29:31,466 --> 04:29:32,233
although they'll tell
you that that's
6782
04:29:32,299 --> 04:29:33,666
where their family came
from right.
6783
04:29:34,533 --> 04:29:36,500
The pogroms that they and my
6784
04:29:36,566 --> 04:29:38,200
family left actually the
pogroms that
6785
04:29:38,266 --> 04:29:40,299
never happened you, you know,
6786
04:29:41,333 --> 04:29:45,166
assassinated a czar bizarre
and Alexander
6787
04:29:45,233 --> 04:29:48,500
second and it was a
Jewish plot.
6788
04:29:48,566 --> 04:29:49,500
I mean, there's no question
about
6789
04:29:49,566 --> 04:29:53,200
that and I mean, it's just
a remarkable
6790
04:29:53,266 --> 04:29:53,399
thing.
6791
04:29:53,466 --> 04:29:54,299
It's like no matter
what they do
6792
04:29:54,366 --> 04:29:55,299
that the victims it's
kind of this
6793
04:29:55,366 --> 04:29:57,299
thing and they did
end up a lot
6794
04:29:57,366 --> 04:29:58,399
of them coming to America
and then
6795
04:29:58,466 --> 04:30:00,033
obviously the satanic Romanov
6796
04:30:00,100 --> 04:30:02,000
ritual and a lot of
them came into
6797
04:30:02,066 --> 04:30:02,633
America.
6798
04:30:05,266 --> 04:30:09,166
But Russia if you have
an American
6799
04:30:09,233 --> 04:30:12,133
mindset about it, you
would think
6800
04:30:12,200 --> 04:30:14,000
it's dilapidated that
there's no
6801
04:30:14,066 --> 04:30:16,700
freedom highly impoverished
that
6802
04:30:16,766 --> 04:30:18,366
the people hate Vladimir
Putin.
6803
04:30:18,633 --> 04:30:19,133
I don't know.
6804
04:30:19,200 --> 04:30:20,399
That would be my general
sense
6805
04:30:20,466 --> 04:30:22,200
of what everybody thinks
and also
6806
04:30:22,266 --> 04:30:24,500
that they hate Americans
right that
6807
04:30:24,566 --> 04:30:27,933
I think everyone believes
couldn't
6808
04:30:28,000 --> 04:30:31,066
be more opposite could
not be I
6809
04:30:31,133 --> 04:30:33,600
mean, they absolutely
love Americans
6810
04:30:33,833 --> 04:30:34,700
absolutely love Americans.
6811
04:30:34,766 --> 04:30:36,166
They don't even understand
why
6812
04:30:36,233 --> 04:30:37,866
Americans think what they
think about
6813
04:30:37,933 --> 04:30:41,066
they are so confused by the
6814
04:30:41,433 --> 04:30:43,233
American the Western
perception if you
6815
04:30:43,299 --> 04:30:45,600
will about Russia unbelievably
safe.
6816
04:30:45,666 --> 04:30:46,733
I think I also thought
it would
6817
04:30:47,000 --> 04:30:48,033
maybe be back in my head
thought it
6818
04:30:48,100 --> 04:30:48,700
would be unsafe.
6819
04:30:48,766 --> 04:30:51,466
It was unbelievably
safe clean.
6820
04:30:52,266 --> 04:30:55,600
It really makes you
angry about
6821
04:30:56,133 --> 04:30:58,399
the fact that our men
are sacrificing
6822
04:30:58,466 --> 04:31:00,100
their lives and their
bodies in
6823
04:31:00,166 --> 04:31:01,933
the Middle East and they
come back to
6824
04:31:03,266 --> 04:31:04,899
the way our country
looks even
6825
04:31:04,966 --> 04:31:06,200
our capital city which
should be the
6826
04:31:06,266 --> 04:31:08,666
shiny example at least make
the city nice in DC.
6827
04:31:08,966 --> 04:31:10,033
You've got drug addicts
walking
6828
04:31:10,100 --> 04:31:12,366
around gay pride flags
people walking
6829
04:31:12,433 --> 04:31:16,833
around half naked tweaking
on the streets of DC.
6830
04:31:17,000 --> 04:31:19,366
Yeah, you're not Moscow.
6831
04:31:20,066 --> 04:31:23,966
It's an immaculate
city and the
6832
04:31:24,100 --> 04:31:27,366
history as someone who
loves history to
6833
04:31:27,433 --> 04:31:31,066
have gone to the monasteries
to see the old churches.
6834
04:31:31,133 --> 04:31:33,566
It stirs your soul beauty
stirs your soul.
6835
04:31:34,366 --> 04:31:36,399
And there's a reason
why whenever
6836
04:31:36,466 --> 04:31:38,133
commies who I believe
came to America
6837
04:31:38,200 --> 04:31:38,799
and that's what we're
dealing with
6838
04:31:38,866 --> 04:31:39,966
right now and they're
the ones that
6839
04:31:40,033 --> 04:31:42,366
are in power commies
in Zionism
6840
04:31:42,433 --> 04:31:46,766
are our brother and sister,
but they
6841
04:31:47,299 --> 04:31:48,666
seek to destroy history.
6842
04:31:48,733 --> 04:31:51,633
They seek to make it
so that people
6843
04:31:51,933 --> 04:31:54,200
don't aspire to beauty
because when
6844
04:31:54,266 --> 04:31:56,799
you don't see beauty, it's
reflected in your soul.
6845
04:31:56,866 --> 04:31:59,666
I mean in Catholicism
that is a
6846
04:32:00,366 --> 04:32:03,466
belief that you need
beauty, right?
6847
04:32:03,533 --> 04:32:06,700
It's beauty truth truth
and goodness.
6848
04:32:08,033 --> 04:32:11,200
These are the pillars
and when you
6849
04:32:11,266 --> 04:32:14,066
don't see beauty when
you don't have
6850
04:32:14,133 --> 04:32:16,233
truth and when you don't have
6851
04:32:16,299 --> 04:32:18,633
goodness a society
falls apart.
6852
04:32:20,533 --> 04:32:22,600
When you don't aim
toward those
6853
04:32:22,666 --> 04:32:25,333
transcendent transcendentals
in life.
6854
04:32:26,466 --> 04:32:27,733
When you walk around
and you see
6855
04:32:27,799 --> 04:32:33,299
these churches and the
relics and the
6856
04:32:34,166 --> 04:32:36,399
Intention it just the
beauty of
6857
04:32:36,466 --> 04:32:38,299
walking into a church
that has stood
6858
04:32:38,366 --> 04:32:39,266
there for that long.
6859
04:32:39,833 --> 04:32:41,133
It's there something
inside of you.
6860
04:32:41,200 --> 04:32:42,333
I felt inspired.
6861
04:32:42,700 --> 04:32:43,700
There's only way I could
describe it.
6862
04:32:46,366 --> 04:32:47,299
I wanted to know more.
6863
04:32:47,366 --> 04:32:49,133
I wanted to be smarter.
6864
04:32:49,200 --> 04:32:52,733
I wanted to work harder
and in America.
6865
04:32:52,799 --> 04:32:54,000
They want everyone to
sort of live
6866
04:32:54,066 --> 04:32:57,766
in nothingness like really
close to
6867
04:32:57,833 --> 04:33:00,133
your neighbor built in
flimsy homes.
6868
04:33:00,200 --> 04:33:01,899
Nothing is structured
anymore.
6869
04:33:02,266 --> 04:33:03,066
And there's a reason for that
6870
04:33:03,133 --> 04:33:04,200
because they don't want
you to think about
6871
04:33:04,266 --> 04:33:06,066
history. They don't want you
to think about permanence.
6872
04:33:06,133 --> 04:33:06,966
They want you to think
that you're
6873
04:33:07,033 --> 04:33:08,666
here and then you're
gone that you
6874
04:33:08,733 --> 04:33:11,333
have. Don't think about
ancestry.
6875
04:33:11,666 --> 04:33:12,866
Don't think about ancestry.
6876
04:33:13,266 --> 04:33:14,466
Don't think about living in
6877
04:33:14,533 --> 04:33:16,099
your dad's home when
you get older.
6878
04:33:19,033 --> 04:33:20,266
That's what we're drifting
toward.
6879
04:33:20,333 --> 04:33:21,233
We're drifting toward that
6880
04:33:21,299 --> 04:33:24,400
emptiness of the Bolshevik
Revolution when
6881
04:33:24,466 --> 04:33:27,133
they made them close
the churches
6882
04:33:27,200 --> 04:33:29,233
and they made the state
religion
6883
04:33:29,299 --> 04:33:32,000
atheism. America has
been under a
6884
04:33:32,066 --> 04:33:33,400
Bolshevik spell I think
for a long
6885
04:33:33,466 --> 04:33:33,799
time.
6886
04:33:34,933 --> 04:33:35,299
Yeah.
6887
04:33:36,466 --> 04:33:38,433
It does seem like there's an
awakening happening.
6888
04:33:39,466 --> 04:33:43,333
Well, how do you like being
independent?
6889
04:33:44,466 --> 04:33:45,966
I'm just the happiest person.
6890
04:33:46,033 --> 04:33:47,666
I could never go back
to working
6891
04:33:47,733 --> 04:33:49,200
for someone other than
my husband.
6892
04:33:52,366 --> 04:33:53,466
You are crushing that.
6893
04:33:53,833 --> 04:33:54,466
Thank you.
6894
04:33:55,000 --> 04:33:55,966
Congratulations.
6895
04:33:56,400 --> 04:33:58,033
Thank you and you know,
I owe it to
6896
04:33:58,099 --> 04:34:01,933
my team for believing
in me and even
6897
04:34:02,000 --> 04:34:02,933
when I'm sure they don't
believe in
6898
04:34:03,000 --> 04:34:05,133
me, you know, I'm sure
they've got
6899
04:34:05,200 --> 04:34:05,866
to have some questions.
6900
04:34:06,066 --> 04:34:07,233
The one thing we will
never agree
6901
04:34:07,299 --> 04:34:10,200
on in the control room
is the moon
6902
04:34:10,266 --> 04:34:12,400
landing. I got these guys who
need it to be true.
6903
04:34:14,566 --> 04:34:15,500
His name is Skylar.
6904
04:34:16,066 --> 04:34:18,900
Yeah, and one day I
will bring him
6905
04:34:18,966 --> 04:34:20,866
over to the dark side,
which is the
6906
04:34:20,966 --> 04:34:23,533
I'm like the moon length
didn't happen Skye.
6907
04:34:23,599 --> 04:34:25,433
Moon length didn't happen
Skye, but
6908
04:34:25,500 --> 04:34:27,533
he's like, no, no, I
think they did.
6909
04:34:27,599 --> 04:34:28,633
They did happen.
6910
04:34:29,333 --> 04:34:32,366
But we have a great
time and I it
6911
04:34:32,433 --> 04:34:34,000
is it really is a blessing
to be able
6912
04:34:34,066 --> 04:34:35,133
to work from home
and to be in
6913
04:34:35,200 --> 04:34:37,966
control of your own life
and to say what
6914
04:34:38,033 --> 04:34:41,266
you actually think without
6915
04:34:41,433 --> 04:34:44,000
consequence the threat
of you know, the
6916
04:34:44,066 --> 04:34:45,400
sort of Domicles above
your head
6917
04:34:45,466 --> 04:34:49,133
and having someone am
I going to be
6918
04:34:49,200 --> 04:34:51,200
in trouble and get
brought into
6919
04:34:51,266 --> 04:34:53,133
the CEO's office because
Ben didn't
6920
04:34:53,200 --> 04:34:56,000
like that. Like that's
I'm so glad
6921
04:34:56,066 --> 04:34:57,533
it's all removed from
my life and
6922
04:34:58,766 --> 04:35:02,500
that I landed on my feet in
large part in every part.
6923
04:35:02,566 --> 04:35:04,700
Thanks to my husband
and faith in
6924
04:35:04,766 --> 04:35:06,799
God really trusting
that I could
6925
04:35:06,866 --> 04:35:08,533
follow truth and say
something
6926
04:35:08,599 --> 04:35:12,400
that was good and right
and that he
6927
04:35:12,466 --> 04:35:13,900
would have my back
and he did.
6928
04:35:16,133 --> 04:35:17,566
Well, I'm really happy
for you.
6929
04:35:17,633 --> 04:35:18,066
Thank you.
6930
04:35:18,133 --> 04:35:19,933
And it's inspired a
lot of people.
6931
04:35:20,333 --> 04:35:22,133
So congratulations.
6932
04:35:22,966 --> 04:35:23,333
Thank you.
6933
04:35:23,400 --> 04:35:25,200
And I do also just
want to say I
6934
04:35:25,266 --> 04:35:26,766
would not be here without
the fans.
6935
04:35:27,500 --> 04:35:30,099
They I mean, they will
never know
6936
04:35:30,166 --> 04:35:32,733
the what that year was
like for me to
6937
04:35:32,799 --> 04:35:35,000
have people which they're
trying to
6938
04:35:35,066 --> 04:35:36,733
do to Megan, but it
was magnified.
6939
04:35:36,799 --> 04:35:38,033
I think because it
was kind of
6940
04:35:38,099 --> 04:35:39,933
early to the cancellation
party.
6941
04:35:42,033 --> 04:35:43,633
Just try to take everything
from your family.
6942
04:35:43,700 --> 04:35:45,733
I mean, they don't they don't
want you to just be fired.
6943
04:35:45,799 --> 04:35:46,599
They want you destroyed.
6944
04:35:47,000 --> 04:35:49,000
Yeah, like it's it's
it's so evil.
6945
04:35:49,433 --> 04:35:53,033
And if it wasn't for
my fans, the
6946
04:35:53,099 --> 04:35:55,066
people who signed up
who sent the
6947
04:35:55,133 --> 04:35:56,833
emails keep going were
with you.
6948
04:35:57,266 --> 04:35:58,533
You know, please don't
sell us out.
6949
04:35:58,599 --> 04:35:59,366
That's the other things.
6950
04:35:59,433 --> 04:36:00,366
They're so used to that.
6951
04:36:00,433 --> 04:36:02,366
They're so used to someone
just taking the money.
6952
04:36:03,500 --> 04:36:04,733
I wouldn't be here
without them.
6953
04:36:04,799 --> 04:36:06,233
The people who prayed
around the
6954
04:36:06,299 --> 04:36:07,599
world who pray every single
day around
6955
04:36:07,666 --> 04:36:08,833
the world for my safety
who write.
6956
04:36:11,533 --> 04:36:12,799
Write us and tell us
that they're
6957
04:36:12,866 --> 04:36:14,333
keeping us in their prayers,
which is
6958
04:36:14,400 --> 04:36:15,366
the most important part.
6959
04:36:17,333 --> 04:36:19,566
My family could not have gotten
through it without them.
6960
04:36:20,000 --> 04:36:20,933
And so I just feel
like I also
6961
04:36:21,000 --> 04:36:22,099
just need to say thank
you, especially
6962
04:36:22,166 --> 04:36:23,333
with the Charlie
assassination
6963
04:36:23,766 --> 04:36:28,599
because it was that
was definitely
6964
04:36:28,766 --> 04:36:32,133
the toughest few months of my
6965
04:36:32,200 --> 04:36:33,400
entire career was dealing
with that.
6966
04:36:33,466 --> 04:36:34,933
I mean, it still is
tough, but
6967
04:36:35,000 --> 04:36:36,466
I've now accepted that
he's not coming
6968
04:36:36,533 --> 04:36:38,566
back and I've accepted that
he was betrayed.
6969
04:36:39,033 --> 04:36:40,766
So it's easier now that I'm
6970
04:36:40,833 --> 04:36:44,033
contending with reality,
but those months
6971
04:36:44,099 --> 04:36:48,533
that followed I always
say to my team.
6972
04:36:48,599 --> 04:36:49,099
I make the joke.
6973
04:36:49,166 --> 04:36:51,500
I'm like, if I can
get through
6974
04:36:51,566 --> 04:36:52,966
the last two years and
I didn't end
6975
04:36:53,033 --> 04:36:55,400
up like shaving my
head and you
6976
04:36:55,466 --> 04:36:57,233
know, and going into a
loony bin, like
6977
04:36:57,299 --> 04:36:59,033
I'm telling you, like
I think I'm
6978
04:36:59,099 --> 04:37:00,966
the most emotionally
stable person
6979
04:37:01,033 --> 04:37:02,133
that I know because
I don't know
6980
04:37:02,200 --> 04:37:03,466
who else could have made
out of that
6981
04:37:03,533 --> 04:37:05,566
without losing their mind.
6982
04:37:05,666 --> 04:37:07,099
Yeah, you know, it was it was
6983
04:37:07,166 --> 04:37:09,833
it's been a tough tough
go, but my
6984
04:37:09,900 --> 04:37:11,333
husband was reminding
me we were
6985
04:37:11,400 --> 04:37:12,599
we were out for a run
the other day
6986
04:37:13,433 --> 04:37:15,433
because sometimes you get
the perspective.
6987
04:37:15,500 --> 04:37:16,833
I was saying to him
when we had
6988
04:37:17,266 --> 04:37:18,633
someone remember on our
team suffered
6989
04:37:18,700 --> 04:37:20,333
a seizure in Russia
and Russia
6990
04:37:20,400 --> 04:37:21,500
has been amazing and
taking care of
6991
04:37:21,566 --> 04:37:23,433
him who served this
country for 12
6992
04:37:23,500 --> 04:37:24,700
years and couldn't get
a freaking
6993
04:37:24,766 --> 04:37:26,400
appointment at the
VA and knew
6994
04:37:26,466 --> 04:37:28,400
something was wrong
and they told
6995
04:37:28,466 --> 04:37:29,599
him it was in his head and
6996
04:37:29,666 --> 04:37:31,733
here's some Xanax and
turns out it was
6997
04:37:31,799 --> 04:37:33,433
in his head, but it was a
massive brain clot.
6998
04:37:35,333 --> 04:37:37,400
Yeah, anyway, my husband
and I was
6999
04:37:37,466 --> 04:37:39,733
saying to him those
moments where
7000
04:37:39,799 --> 04:37:40,500
he thought he was
going to die
7001
04:37:40,733 --> 04:37:42,900
and you just I was sitting
here just
7002
04:37:42,966 --> 04:37:47,066
going really God, you know,
do we need to have a chat?
7003
04:37:48,666 --> 04:37:49,033
What's up?
7004
04:37:49,099 --> 04:37:49,766
Are we fighting?
7005
04:37:49,833 --> 04:37:51,133
What's going on and you get
7006
04:37:51,200 --> 04:37:53,633
those moments and George
just has the
7007
04:37:53,700 --> 04:37:55,466
best perspective and he just
7008
04:37:55,566 --> 04:37:57,433
reminded me about the
lessons of Job
7009
04:37:57,766 --> 04:37:59,033
and the biblical lessons
of Job
7010
04:37:59,099 --> 04:38:00,433
and having everything
taken away
7011
04:38:00,500 --> 04:38:05,500
from you and remembering
God's
7012
04:38:05,566 --> 04:38:06,799
perspective on that
like you don't
7013
04:38:06,866 --> 04:38:09,700
know what I contend
with and not
7014
04:38:09,766 --> 04:38:12,133
seeing why things are
happening not
7015
04:38:12,200 --> 04:38:13,500
being able to understand the
7016
04:38:13,566 --> 04:38:15,633
bigger picture and it's
so important
7017
04:38:15,700 --> 04:38:18,533
to always have that
perspective is
7018
04:38:19,366 --> 04:38:22,566
we are just as I always
say little
7019
04:38:22,633 --> 04:38:23,900
blips in an equation that we
7020
04:38:23,966 --> 04:38:25,933
don't understand and
at random times
7021
04:38:26,000 --> 04:38:27,500
in the equation God
puts a plus in
7022
04:38:27,566 --> 04:38:29,166
your life and then puts
a minus 5,
7023
04:38:29,233 --> 04:38:30,266
you know, he's like here's
plus one.
7024
04:38:30,333 --> 04:38:31,000
Here's minus 5.
7025
04:38:31,466 --> 04:38:32,299
Here's division.
7026
04:38:32,700 --> 04:38:34,033
Here's multiplication
and you're
7027
04:38:34,099 --> 04:38:36,266
going what on earth is
going on and
7028
04:38:36,333 --> 04:38:38,866
not meant to see the
sum of it but
7029
04:38:39,033 --> 04:38:40,299
occasionally I think
we're allowed
7030
04:38:40,366 --> 04:38:42,500
a glimpse into recognizing
in the
7031
04:38:42,566 --> 04:38:44,933
retrospect that when
he was doing
7032
04:38:45,000 --> 04:38:47,333
all those minuses, it
actually was
7033
04:38:47,400 --> 04:38:48,900
a plus, you know, you
get to look
7034
04:38:48,966 --> 04:38:50,033
back and go man, you really
7035
04:38:50,099 --> 04:38:51,366
wanted me out of the
Daily Wire like
7036
04:38:51,433 --> 04:38:52,700
yesterday and you did
it in the
7037
04:38:52,766 --> 04:38:55,700
most in the craziest
way but man,
7038
04:38:55,766 --> 04:38:56,500
were you looking out?
7039
04:38:56,666 --> 04:38:59,966
You know, and so it's,
you know,
7040
04:39:00,266 --> 04:39:01,900
thank God even for the
hardships.
7041
04:39:03,166 --> 04:39:03,766
Good for you.
7042
04:39:04,200 --> 04:39:04,799
Good for you.
7043
04:39:06,066 --> 04:39:06,400
All right.
7044
04:39:06,466 --> 04:39:07,200
Last question.
7045
04:39:08,366 --> 04:39:09,266
If you had three guests to
7046
04:39:09,333 --> 04:39:12,166
recommend for this show,
who would they be?
7047
04:39:13,333 --> 04:39:14,166
Phil Turney.
7048
04:39:15,500 --> 04:39:16,266
USS Liberty.
7049
04:39:17,466 --> 04:39:17,933
Okay.
7050
04:39:18,233 --> 04:39:19,099
Changed my life.
7051
04:39:20,566 --> 04:39:21,700
There's just something
about a
7052
04:39:21,766 --> 04:39:23,299
person who's held on to
something like
7053
04:39:23,366 --> 04:39:24,766
that their whole life
and felt
7054
04:39:25,533 --> 04:39:27,566
that they could never
move on because
7055
04:39:27,633 --> 04:39:31,066
of their brothers being
ruthlessly murdered.
7056
04:39:32,099 --> 04:39:35,233
That just you really see it.
7057
04:39:36,700 --> 04:39:38,299
How evil our government what
7058
04:39:38,366 --> 04:39:41,233
they're capable of, you
know, I would
7059
04:39:41,299 --> 04:39:42,433
definitely say Phil Turney.
7060
04:39:44,299 --> 04:39:45,000
I can I give you one
that I've
7061
04:39:45,066 --> 04:39:46,133
never had on my show,
but I feel like
7062
04:39:46,200 --> 04:39:47,033
you'll beat me to it.
7063
04:39:47,433 --> 04:39:50,099
Yeah, every year I try to
get Vladimir Putin.
7064
04:39:50,933 --> 04:39:51,766
I feel like it'll beat
me to it.
7065
04:39:51,900 --> 04:39:53,266
I feel like you got to just
like do something.
7066
04:39:53,333 --> 04:39:54,333
You got to get like
Kim Jong-un
7067
04:39:54,833 --> 04:39:56,133
like out of nowhere,
you know, love
7068
04:39:56,200 --> 04:39:57,166
together, right?
7069
04:39:57,599 --> 04:39:58,733
I feel like that's where
we're at.
7070
04:39:58,799 --> 04:40:00,633
Like we now need to know.
7071
04:40:00,700 --> 04:40:03,900
Like, let's say I'm
like, okay,
7072
04:40:04,233 --> 04:40:05,066
let me go find all the
people that
7073
04:40:05,133 --> 04:40:06,266
you're saying if if Jeffrey
7074
04:40:06,333 --> 04:40:08,799
Epstein is good and
Putin is evil.
7075
04:40:08,866 --> 04:40:10,733
I got to go figure out like
what's going on.
7076
04:40:10,799 --> 04:40:11,166
Really?
7077
04:40:11,566 --> 04:40:13,099
That would be fascinating
like
7078
04:40:13,166 --> 04:40:15,133
when Tucker went over and did
7079
04:40:15,200 --> 04:40:17,299
Putin, I was like seized
by it.
7080
04:40:17,366 --> 04:40:17,799
Yeah.
7081
04:40:18,666 --> 04:40:23,700
Give me like give me a Phil
7082
04:40:23,766 --> 04:40:26,900
Turney Kim Jong-un and
or Putin and
7083
04:40:30,099 --> 04:40:31,366
I'd like to see your wife.
7084
04:40:32,133 --> 04:40:32,966
She's been on her.
7085
04:40:33,466 --> 04:40:34,000
Has she?
7086
04:40:34,066 --> 04:40:34,633
Twice.
7087
04:40:34,766 --> 04:40:35,466
Okay.
7088
04:40:35,599 --> 04:40:37,599
I always got you got to do another
family member of yours.
7089
04:40:38,533 --> 04:40:41,299
I don't like putting my
family on display.
7090
04:40:42,033 --> 04:40:43,566
I know but it's you learn the
7091
04:40:43,633 --> 04:40:44,633
most about people when
you when
7092
04:40:44,700 --> 04:40:46,400
they speak to their family members
and that's why I love to
7093
04:40:46,466 --> 04:40:47,966
watch them those podcasts.
7094
04:40:48,033 --> 04:40:48,733
I'm like, oh,
7095
04:40:50,766 --> 04:40:52,400
suddenly the about Kanye.
7096
04:40:53,166 --> 04:40:53,933
They'd be great.
7097
04:40:54,033 --> 04:40:54,866
You think you would do it?
7098
04:40:55,099 --> 04:40:55,433
I do.
7099
04:40:56,466 --> 04:40:56,966
It's great.
7100
04:40:57,733 --> 04:40:58,233
Right on.
7101
04:40:59,500 --> 04:41:00,400
I do for Kanye.
7102
04:41:00,466 --> 04:41:02,066
I just want to go to see one
of his concerts.
7103
04:41:02,633 --> 04:41:03,733
So they look incredible.
7104
04:41:04,666 --> 04:41:06,299
But Kanye's expression
is music.
7105
04:41:07,766 --> 04:41:09,700
You got the when he
does the show.
7106
04:41:10,133 --> 04:41:11,966
That's his that's his medium,
you know.
7107
04:41:13,500 --> 04:41:14,700
You want to end this
with a prayer?
7108
04:41:15,299 --> 04:41:15,933
Absolutely.
7109
04:41:16,166 --> 04:41:17,066
All right, you lead it.
7110
04:41:17,700 --> 04:41:19,099
Oh, no, you have to lead
the prayer.
7111
04:41:19,333 --> 04:41:19,900
You lead it.
7112
04:41:20,266 --> 04:41:21,133
It's your episode.
7113
04:41:22,000 --> 04:41:23,166
Okay, I'll lead the prayer.
7114
04:41:23,233 --> 04:41:24,466
I never lead the prayer
in my house.
7115
04:41:24,533 --> 04:41:26,200
My granddad was always like if
there's a guy there they
7116
04:41:26,266 --> 04:41:27,133
always lead the prayer.
7117
04:41:27,766 --> 04:41:32,033
Okay, so this is I'll just do
just like how I kind of pray
7118
04:41:32,099 --> 04:41:34,333
and like I feel like I have to
incorporate you into it.
7119
04:41:34,400 --> 04:41:38,299
So I like whatever so they were
the father the son and the
7120
04:41:38,366 --> 04:41:40,833
Holy Spirit dear Lord.
7121
04:41:40,900 --> 04:41:42,133
We thank you for this
conversation.
7122
04:41:42,200 --> 04:41:44,299
We hope that people who are hearing
this conversation are
7123
04:41:44,366 --> 04:41:44,933
impacted.
7124
04:41:45,299 --> 04:41:45,966
There are a lot of
people that
7125
04:41:46,033 --> 04:41:47,333
are suffering in the
world and
7126
04:41:47,833 --> 04:41:50,466
it's difficult for us to contend
with why that is and why
7127
04:41:50,533 --> 04:41:51,799
that suffering is allowed
to happen.
7128
04:41:51,866 --> 04:41:56,666
But we always at first come
to you with gratitude and
7129
04:41:57,299 --> 04:41:58,733
recognizing that there was a
7130
04:41:58,799 --> 04:41:59,900
lot of goodness that
is working
7131
04:41:59,966 --> 04:42:01,566
at the same time that there
7132
04:42:01,633 --> 04:42:04,233
are so many people who
are waking
7133
04:42:04,299 --> 04:42:05,633
up and understanding what is
7134
04:42:05,700 --> 04:42:07,666
happening in this world
on your
7135
04:42:07,733 --> 04:42:09,833
time and in a timeline
that makes sense.
7136
04:42:10,700 --> 04:42:13,733
We pray for the children that
are suffering all across the
7137
04:42:13,799 --> 04:42:16,599
world. The people who are
in war-torn areas.
7138
04:42:16,666 --> 04:42:20,966
We pray that you protect them
and that you cover them the
7139
04:42:21,133 --> 04:42:24,466
people that are growing up without
parents without water
7140
04:42:24,533 --> 04:42:27,200
without food and that you
are with them.
7141
04:42:29,033 --> 04:42:31,366
We pray for the information
7142
04:42:31,433 --> 04:42:33,400
that you want us to
have we come
7143
04:42:33,466 --> 04:42:35,966
to you in gratitude for the platform
that you have given me
7144
04:42:36,033 --> 04:42:40,200
the platform that you have given
Sean Ryan a platform that
7145
04:42:40,566 --> 04:42:43,299
I don't think either of us would
have ever thought or think
7146
04:42:43,366 --> 04:42:47,933
that we deserve and we continue
to ask that you use these
7147
04:42:48,000 --> 04:42:50,933
platforms to do your will because
these are your platforms.
7148
04:42:51,000 --> 04:42:53,333
And these things can be taken
away from us in any moment.
7149
04:42:54,133 --> 04:42:57,700
We thank you for the health
of our family.
7150
04:42:58,099 --> 04:43:00,066
We thank you for the energy
to keep going.
7151
04:43:00,133 --> 04:43:02,299
We thank you for the people that
you have put in our lives
7152
04:43:02,366 --> 04:43:03,099
even the bad ones.
7153
04:43:03,166 --> 04:43:07,000
We pray especially for our enemies
and the people that seek
7154
04:43:07,066 --> 04:43:10,500
to do harm on us because only
you can move them and change
7155
04:43:10,566 --> 04:43:13,966
those people in the world
in your name.
7156
04:43:14,333 --> 04:43:17,133
We pray to Jesus in
Jesus Christ.
7157
04:43:17,200 --> 04:43:17,633
Amen.
7158
04:43:17,933 --> 04:43:18,500
The Jesus Christ.
7159
04:43:18,566 --> 04:43:18,833
Amen.
7160
04:43:20,166 --> 04:43:20,700
Beautiful.
7161
04:43:21,733 --> 04:43:22,933
Thank you Candace.
7162
04:43:23,566 --> 04:43:24,200
It was an honor.
7163
04:43:24,633 --> 04:43:25,400
Thank you so much.
7164
04:43:25,466 --> 04:43:26,266
It was an honor to be here.
7165
04:43:26,333 --> 04:43:29,233
I'm so I feel like I was last
and I was like man, maybe he
7166
04:43:29,299 --> 04:43:30,033
just doesn't like me.
7167
04:43:30,099 --> 04:43:32,666
I was allowed to do his show like
I was like I thought your
7168
04:43:32,733 --> 04:43:33,566
show was so cool.
7169
04:43:34,266 --> 04:43:35,633
Thank you like to
be on there.
7170
04:43:37,799 --> 04:43:38,466
Well, you made it.
7171
04:43:38,733 --> 04:43:39,400
I made it.
7172
04:43:39,833 --> 04:43:41,099
It was a fascinating
interview.
7173
04:43:41,166 --> 04:43:42,533
I've really enjoyed this.
7174
04:43:42,900 --> 04:43:44,366
There will be a lot of tears
on the Internet.
7175
04:43:44,466 --> 04:43:45,566
I guarantee you awesome.
7176
04:43:45,799 --> 04:43:47,233
All right.
7177
04:43:47,366 --> 04:43:48,433
I wish you the best of luck.
7178
04:43:48,633 --> 04:43:49,666
Thank you so much.
7179
04:43:49,733 --> 04:43:51,099
Cheers.
7180
04:44:19,700 --> 04:44:23,866
And if you're feeling extra generous
head to Apple Podcasts
7181
04:44:23,933 --> 04:44:26,000
and Spotify and leave
us a review.