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When we first moved here
in March of 2020...
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the very first time
that I saw something in the sky,
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I really hesitated
to say anything to anybody.
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But it happened repetitively,
maybe three, four times,
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before I mentioned it
to somebody down in Dublin.
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They said, "Well, you know
that this place is famous for that."
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Do you know who Ezekiel was?
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Prophet?
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- Ezekiel was a prophet. You're right.
- Mm-hmm.
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And it was a long time ago, all right?
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As a Homeland Security consultant,
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I do a lot of threat analyst work,
uh, for the government.
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I've seen the government flat-out lie.
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Where I was standing in the location
they were lying about.
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What I am seeing here is similar
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to sightings that they had
by the guys in the Air Force.
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Whoa! Got it!
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It's the movement
that catches your attention,
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that fast movement.
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That's exactly how we're seeing it here.
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- Ah, jeez.
- I know, right? Spooky.
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It's something otherworldly.
There's no other way to describe that.
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"And the star they had seen
guided them to Bethlehem."
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One of the reasons
why a lot of people don't believe
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is because they haven't seen it,
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and it messes with their concept
of who we are in relation to the universe.
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...and it guided them,
so it knew where it was going.
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- Right?
- Mm-hmm.
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That mean... That means it was...
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UFO.
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UFO.
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Do I believe there's life
on other planets? Yes.
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But I don't think
these are people from another planet.
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I still think these are
what people called angels.
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I think they're messengers.
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I mean, I'm dying to know
what they've got to say.
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From the beginning
of recorded time,
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men have been seeing
unexplainable things in the sky.
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Are we alone in the universe?
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Somewhere in the data
will be something worth real inquiry.
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We have not been hiding anything.
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There are such things
as interplanetary spaceships.
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I thought it was an alien,
and he had big eyes.
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There's something
profoundly important going on here
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that is authentic and real.
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How much of your work
is classified?
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All of it.
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Eh, all of... Everything I did,
all day long, was classified.
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All of it.
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{an8}My name is Matthew Roberts.
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{an8}I was a cryptologic technician
in the US Navy for 16 years.
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I was present
on the USS Theodore Roosevelt
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for the Gimbal event.
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{an8}Look at that thing, dude.
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{an8}So, uh...
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{an8}... that was the first time
I saw the Gimbal footage.
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- Well, if there's...
- Look at this thing!
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It's rotating.
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I don't... I can't even describe the shape.
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I mean, it looks a little bit disc-like.
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It's flying along,
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and then it kind of tilts up
onto its side.
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I was watching this footage,
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and I could see
no kind of aviation surfaces
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that you would expect to see.
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Wings, tail, you know, rudder.
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There's none of that.
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So I couldn't really make sense
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of why this thing was
kind of up in the air like it was.
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And...
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I just...
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I had this kind of
emotional response to it.
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And I... At the time,
I didn't understand that. Um...
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I knew that it wasn't ours, right?
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I knew that it wasn't anybody else's. Uh...
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So, I mean, that only leaves...
one other option, I think.
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- Which is what?
- And that's non-human tech.
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Non-human intelligence technology.
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Because my job was classified,
and I had access to classified, um...
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I was kind of aware...
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this was not a one-off event for the Navy.
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This, uh... These things happen frequently.
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All the time.
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They happen all the time.
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The skies over Stephenville
haven't looked the same since a UFO...
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Milk Duds!
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A nice, cold glass
of Borden milk will cool you off.
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You'll like the taste of milk
with everything you eat.
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♪ Milk is a natural ♪
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Stephenville, Texas.
The milk capital of the world.
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They put out quite a bit of milk
over there.
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Something very strange about this area.
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I look at the sky quite often.
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Wonder what all's out there.
Wonder what we don't know about.
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I grew up around here.
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Nothing to do in these small towns.
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You wanna fight?
Sure, go ahead and have a fight.
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That same night, we'd go camping
or go fishing on the river down there.
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So, it was... It's innocent fun.
We'd have a good time.
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{an8}You know, I've been fascinated
with engines of all types
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since I can remember.
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So much to where
I started a trucking company.
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And it became quite large,
had quite a few people working for me.
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I've always owned quite a few motorcycles,
boats, airplanes.
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Just to see how it all works.
It's just simply fascinating.
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In 2008, I had a great life.
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I had a successful business.
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I guess I'd been married 16,
17 years at that time.
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Very blessed is all I can say.
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But what I saw in the sky that night
changed everything.
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It'd been a long, cold winter. Bad winter.
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That was the first day
we had a decent day.
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So we came out here
to the top of the hill to have a campfire.
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It was myself, Mike Odom, and Lance Jones.
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Then all of a sudden,
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I see some real bright,
high-intensity lights,
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off to the east, headed our way
at a high velocity of speed.
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The lights were so bright,
it was unlike anything I'd ever seen.
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It was almost blinding to look at 'em.
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Then what amazed me
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is there was no wind noise,
no engine noise.
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There was silence.
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When it came past us,
I developed the most peaceful,
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easy feeling
I think I've ever had in my life.
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It was almost like a religious experience.
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Like I was at one with whatever it was.
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Something I've never had
before or since then. It was unreal.
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And then another brief second,
it just simply disappeared.
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It didn't streak off or anything.
It just disappeared.
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And then you could count,
one second, two seconds, three seconds,
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and two F-16s came in hot pursuit.
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Full afterburner hanging out.
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And in my head, I'm wondering,
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"Is it War of the Worlds,
or what was going on?"
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I got in my car,
and I went back to my house,
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and my wife says, "What happened?"
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She could tell I was visibly shaken.
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I told her what happened, and she says,
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"Whatever you do,
don't tell anybody about it."
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And she says,
"People will think we're crazy."
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And I said, "Actually, I don't care
what people think about us."
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"All I know is what I saw."
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That next day, I called the newspaper,
Stephenville Empire-Tribune. "ET."
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It had been a slow news day,
the day that the UFO story broke.
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Angelia Joiner was
in the newsroom,
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and she had gotten a call
from Steve Allen.
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And he was a local pilot,
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and then he told her
that he saw something strange in the sky.
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He said something like, "Okay,
I really need to tell you something,
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but I don't want you to think I'm crazy."
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{an8}And he began telling me a story
that, uh, I found pretty incredible.
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{an8}Angelia had a brief conversation with
him and came to my office and said,
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{an8}"You'll never believe this, but..."
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It was late in the afternoon,
and we really had our stories together.
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So I was like, "Yeah, sure, check it out."
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"We'll talk about it tomorrow
when I get to the office."
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I grew up in California. I got engaged.
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And my husband was in the dairy business,
and his family had come out here.
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So we got married and we moved.
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It was a startling change for me.
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As managing editor,
I was responsible for all of the content.
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I had a lot to prove.
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I was the youngest editor
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that had ever been hired
to be the managing editor of the paper.
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I was the second female.
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And I was still seen as an outsider.
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So, inside, I was dealing
with a lot of insecurity, I think.
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The next morning, I picked up my paper
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and saw "UFO" in huge font
across the top of the paper.
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I just felt like the wind
was just completely knocked out of me.
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I thought, "This is the end of my career."
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"Steve Allen, Mike Odom, and Lance Jones
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were out admiring
a beautiful Texas sunset Tuesday evening
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when they saw something
none of them can explain."
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I had a publisher at the time,
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and she told Angelia,
"You're going with this tonight."
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And she changed the whole front page.
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She was the boss, the top dog,
so she did whatever she wanted.
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But I was in charge of the newsroom,
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and so I felt like people
were gonna question my credibility.
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My news judgment.
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"The ship wasn't really visible
and it was totally silent,
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but the lights spanned
a mile-and-a-half long
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and a mile-and-a-half wide."
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That really sent me over the edge.
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I mean, aside from the headline,
just "the ship."
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Like, we were naturally assuming
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that this was some kind
of a spaceship out there.
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When I walked through those doors,
I was like a crazy woman. I was furious.
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Walking into the publisher's office,
and I was screaming and crying.
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I mean, like, "You have..."
"What have you done?"
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She was like, "Well, you're wrong."
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"You are... you're absolutely wrong
about all of this."
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"We've sold out every newspaper
in the county."
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{an8}When I started reading the story,
my brain just goes 100 miles an hour.
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{an8}I thought to myself,
"Man, what I saw, other people saw it."
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You know, "Do I tell anybody?
What do I do?"
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It was my wife's birthday,
and we wanted to rent a movie.
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And I came outside to my squad car
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to get my credit card.
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As I'm walking back,
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something caught my attention.
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I saw what appeared...
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I-I call it a bubble or an orb.
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It was a, uh, reddish-orange,
fiery-looking color.
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Really big.
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And I focused in on it.
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And that's when I noticed...
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my little boy, and he said, "Look, Dad."
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There was these bright lights,
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flashing, like a pulsating thing.
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Like that.
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They had spread out.
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There was 11 or 12 lights
that I was able to count.
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All of a sudden,
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these things just shoot off
at a blazing speed.
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Well, it was probably what seemed
to be maybe a minute or two, uh,
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I hear jets coming.
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They were flying in the same direction,
the same path as these lights.
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You know, I think those jets were
the same ones that Steve Allen saw.
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After the newspaper came out,
I get the call from Lee Roy Gaitan.
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I didn't know him at the time,
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but he told me his story,
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which, time-wise,
matched exactly what ours did.
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And I said, "Lee Roy, can you help us out
with this a little bit?"
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And he said, "No, I can't. I'm sorry."
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I'm voted in
by my peers to protect them,
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just like the sheriff is.
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What are they gonna think,
that I'm one of the guys that said,
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"I saw these lights"?
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I thought it was gonna ruin me.
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And I said, "I understand,"
but I said, "Come on, Lee Roy."
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"I need somebody
with a little credibility to add to it."
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He said,
"I saw something special. You did too."
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"And I think the world needs to know."
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Somebody like Lee Roy Gaitan
has a lot to lose.
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I have a lot of respect for him
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because when I called,
he hesitated a little bit.
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Then he said,
"No, I think it's important."
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He said that,
"What we saw was really different."
241
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I just saw some strange lights,
traveling at a high rate of speed,
242
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doing some things
243
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that I've never seen anything
before in my life.
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That was, I think,
the first big county official
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that she was able to get
that went on the record with it.
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Gave, really,
the stories a lot of credibility.
247
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When I first heard
about these reports,
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the first thing that went through my mind,
"Okay, something significant happened."
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Now, as to what happened,
at that point, I didn't know.
250
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But it was definitely worth investigating.
251
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My degree's in chemistry.
252
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I was an engineering manager
in the semiconductor field.
253
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And for the last 16 years,
254
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{an8}I have spent my time
studying the UFO phenomenon.
255
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{an8}And my goal has always been
to try to bring science to this subject.
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MUFON stands for the Mutual UFO Network.
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It's an organization
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that investigates UFO sightings.
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In 2008,
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I was the director of research at MUFON.
261
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And I remember
I was monitoring reports as they came in,
262
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and I suddenly saw over 20 reports
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in one geographic area,
Stephenville and Dublin.
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And I knew then
that something unusual had happened.
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My view at that point in time was,
"We need to get there as soon as possible
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and investigate this
while everyone's memory is fresh."
267
00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:05,681
We were contacted by MUFON,
and I'd never heard of MUFON.
268
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But they wanted to set up
an investigation.
269
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And so we said,
"Well, we've got the Rotary building,
270
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and-and you're welcome to come in here."
271
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I'm chairman of the board
of the First National Bank of Dublin.
272
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My grandfather was mayor of Dublin
in the '30s.
273
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And then my, um, dad was mayor.
274
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My brother was mayor.
275
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{an8}So, yeah, we've been in Erath County,
in this area, for a long time.
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Investigators
from the Mutual UFO Network
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plan to look into
the Stephenville sightings this weekend.
278
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I was setting things up,
and the guy said, "35 is probably max."
279
00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:48,298
"I don't know
if we've ever had that many show up."
280
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We set up 35, 40 chairs there,
281
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and then the door opens up.
282
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And it's like... It just filled up.
283
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Hundreds of people
crowded Dublin's Rotary Club
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to share their stories.
285
00:17:01,228 --> 00:17:05,074
What I saw was a very large blue light.
286
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These were big, round objects.
287
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You can't see through it.
You can't see in it.
288
00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:11,947
It was going so fast,
and it didn't make any noise.
289
00:17:15,492 --> 00:17:16,961
The building was packed.
290
00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:19,547
There were people even outside
on the sidewalk.
291
00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:23,133
Some of the people who had come,
they just turned around and walked off.
292
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They didn't even want to deal
with the number of people there.
293
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At least 500 people
filled the room.
294
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Witnesses who saw the light.
295
00:17:30,674 --> 00:17:32,810
The MUFON folks
were kinda just taken aback
296
00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:35,521
because they've never seen
anything like this.
297
00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,148
In an extremely
small number of cases
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will we get a mass sighting like this.
299
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We put all those chairs out,
300
00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:45,573
and there were still people
standing around the room.
301
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All right, if I could see a show of hands
who the witnesses are.
302
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,328
It was like everybody there
had seen something.
303
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We're approaching
a hundred people, probably,
304
00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:56,041
that have seen something
in regard to this.
305
00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:59,044
The Houston papers are there,
the Dallas papers,
306
00:17:59,244 --> 00:18:01,380
the papers from outside of Texas.
307
00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:03,874
The best way I can describe it
was a media circus.
308
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The next day or two,
we were just inundated
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with media from all over the country.
310
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Dozens of people in a small Texas town
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are talking about
some unexpected visitors.
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- Do you guys believe in UFOs?
- Yes.
313
00:18:16,512 --> 00:18:17,605
- I think it's possible.
- Yes.
314
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I realized that the entire city
had totally transformed.
315
00:18:22,643 --> 00:18:24,904
Skies over Stephenville
haven't looked the same
316
00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:29,283
since a UFO reportedly
made tracks across it January 8th.
317
00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:31,493
Stephenville,
the North Texas town,
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is swept up in UFO mania.
319
00:18:33,821 --> 00:18:36,707
They had Japanese film crews,
Brazilian film crews.
320
00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:40,711
The Japanese film crews asked,
"Why does it keep coming to Stephenville?"
321
00:18:40,911 --> 00:18:42,129
Then, jokingly, I said,
322
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"Well, it's the milk capital
of the world."
323
00:18:44,873 --> 00:18:46,667
They said, "Oh, they like milk!"
324
00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:49,303
"Da-eerie."
325
00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:54,141
No wonder they're kind of gray
and sickly-looking. Vitamin D deficiency.
326
00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:55,768
Got milk?
327
00:18:55,968 --> 00:19:01,732
The high school science club
designed a T-shirt and made $4,000.
328
00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:03,651
I can't even believe it.
329
00:19:03,851 --> 00:19:06,278
Aluminum foil hats
to ward off alien mind probes.
330
00:19:06,478 --> 00:19:07,571
Nice look, guy.
331
00:19:07,771 --> 00:19:09,823
People are having a good time.
332
00:19:10,023 --> 00:19:12,201
It's the most excitement
Stephenville's had in a long time,
333
00:19:12,401 --> 00:19:14,278
so it probably won't end here.
334
00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:21,126
One evening, my husband
and I happened to go to dinner,
335
00:19:21,326 --> 00:19:22,753
and it was packed.
336
00:19:22,953 --> 00:19:27,207
And all of a sudden, the TVs came on,
and there was... There they were.
337
00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:31,303
They were dancing around,
and they were flickering.
338
00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:34,974
Tonight, strange sights
in the night skies over Texas
339
00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,176
fuel otherworldly questions.
340
00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:41,939
When that came on, there was just a hush.
Everybody just was riveted.
341
00:19:42,139 --> 00:19:44,984
Angelia Joiner,
staff writer for the Empire-Tribune,
342
00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:46,694
who has talked to several witnesses.
343
00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:51,073
Very similar stories from people
that have called in and emailed me.
344
00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:55,452
So I think there's been
a lot of consistency in the spottings.
345
00:19:55,652 --> 00:19:59,123
Angelia did not treat this story
like it was a fun-and-games story.
346
00:19:59,323 --> 00:20:01,625
She... She took it serious
from the very beginning.
347
00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:05,337
After doing the first story,
I did get a little spooked.
348
00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:07,589
I thought, "Oh my gosh,
this is bigger than...
349
00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:10,751
than what I even dreamed it could be."
350
00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:16,306
It was nice
that people were calling me,
351
00:20:16,506 --> 00:20:18,308
going, "Hey, I saw the front page,
352
00:20:18,508 --> 00:20:22,104
and it was saying 'Dublin, '"
and it's kinda like, "Wow, that's great!"
353
00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:25,941
But then, at the same time, people...
There's some that just love to ridicule.
354
00:20:26,141 --> 00:20:28,694
They love to kinda knock somebody
off their horse.
355
00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:33,615
There were some, um, radio stations
out of Fort Worth came down and...
356
00:20:33,815 --> 00:20:35,826
and basically just to make fun.
357
00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,369
- You know?
- They took my job.
358
00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:40,414
They took my wife.
But they're not getting my pickup truck.
359
00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:44,835
There was people that showed up
just to try to discredit these folks.
360
00:20:45,035 --> 00:20:47,713
When one of those little green monsters
starts walking up here,
361
00:20:47,913 --> 00:20:48,922
then I'll believe it.
362
00:20:49,122 --> 00:20:52,259
And so, um, when these sightings
started taking place,
363
00:20:52,459 --> 00:20:55,963
we saw it, but we didn't really say
a whole lot about it.
364
00:21:04,179 --> 00:21:07,441
It was starting to get a little dark.
It was about this time of night.
365
00:21:07,641 --> 00:21:10,402
My friend Kent was telling us this story
366
00:21:10,602 --> 00:21:13,572
about something
that he saw a few days before.
367
00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:18,243
I looked up, and I'm saying,
"Ah, that's just not normal for me."
368
00:21:18,443 --> 00:21:22,456
He saw this, um... this huge, um...
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00:21:22,656 --> 00:21:24,208
He called it a Dorito.
370
00:21:24,408 --> 00:21:28,120
Looked like a triangle,
or I-I said originally a Dorito.
371
00:21:28,912 --> 00:21:32,216
He, um, stands up,
and he's stretching his back,
372
00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:35,552
and all of a sudden,
he goes, "They're back."
373
00:21:35,752 --> 00:21:38,422
And I said, "Who's back?"
374
00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:40,590
And he just points.
375
00:21:41,174 --> 00:21:44,311
I see this big, triangular vessel.
376
00:21:44,511 --> 00:21:46,939
But what's amazing is there's no sound.
377
00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:48,857
There is no sound whatsoever.
378
00:21:49,057 --> 00:21:53,362
{an8}I couldn't process what I was seeing
because it was huge,
379
00:21:53,562 --> 00:21:55,272
{an8}and you just look and you think...
380
00:21:56,648 --> 00:21:57,866
{an8}"What is that thing?"
381
00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:00,527
And then, all of a sudden, it's gone.
382
00:22:01,528 --> 00:22:03,655
Almost like it just vanished.
383
00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:06,667
I was not scared,
384
00:22:06,867 --> 00:22:09,453
but it was almost where I'm thinking...
385
00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:11,171
beginning to doubt myself.
386
00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:12,673
"Did I even see anything?"
387
00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:14,875
Then it was, like...
The next day, it's like...
388
00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:17,210
"Don't tell anybody."
389
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,226
When you sit there and you say,
"Yeah, I just saw this... this vessel,"
390
00:22:24,426 --> 00:22:27,980
or, "I saw these lights,"
well, who do we tell about it?
391
00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:31,808
And if we did,
what kind of flak are we gonna take?
392
00:22:37,105 --> 00:22:41,410
What we don't understand,
we try to explain,
393
00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:43,662
but our culture is also very open
394
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:48,575
to accepting things
we cannot see or understand.
395
00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:53,246
We do not rely on facts constantly,
like here in the US.
396
00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:58,585
The inexplicable does not necessarily mean
that it is not reality or fact.
397
00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:04,800
In 2008,
what I saw were lights in the sky.
398
00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,228
{an8}But the neat thing about it was
that when I saw those,
399
00:23:08,428 --> 00:23:10,939
{an8}I remembered they were exactly the same
as the first time I saw 'em.
400
00:23:11,139 --> 00:23:12,724
{an8}'Cause I saw them first as a teenager.
401
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,735
We're originally from Mexico.
402
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,663
And for Christmas break,
we were getting ready
403
00:23:26,863 --> 00:23:29,241
to travel to Michoacán,
in Mexico, with our family.
404
00:23:30,826 --> 00:23:34,421
My mother, the evening before,
was on the dairy farm.
405
00:23:34,621 --> 00:23:36,590
And she says,
"I was out there feeding the calves,
406
00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:40,260
and these lights were-were appearing
up in the sky, like bubbles."
407
00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:42,721
"You know, could it be evil spirits
or-or-or something?"
408
00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:45,474
Because we tend to be
a very superstitious culture.
409
00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:48,352
And so when she saw those,
she was very much startled.
410
00:23:48,552 --> 00:23:49,553
She was afraid.
411
00:23:51,054 --> 00:23:53,106
That next day, we were on our way
to travel to Mexico,
412
00:23:53,306 --> 00:23:56,360
we were in our vehicle,
already loaded up and-and headed out,
413
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,862
and these lights started coming up.
414
00:23:59,062 --> 00:24:02,532
And then my mom said,
"Those are the ones I saw, um, yesterday."
415
00:24:02,732 --> 00:24:06,361
And me and my sister and my other sibling
saw those at that time.
416
00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:09,873
It wasn't something that we could explain.
417
00:24:10,073 --> 00:24:12,709
All I know is that what I saw in 1989
418
00:24:12,909 --> 00:24:15,620
was the same thing that,
again, I saw in 2008.
419
00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:21,593
We were coming back from Fort Worth,
me and my husband,
420
00:24:21,793 --> 00:24:23,545
about this time in the evening.
421
00:24:24,212 --> 00:24:27,299
We could see the lights up in this area.
422
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,395
It was like they would bubble in one spot,
then bubble in another spot.
423
00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:37,642
And it was too fast for any-any...
any airplane or helicopter to do.
424
00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:42,823
As we're looking up,
I'm hanging out the door with my camera
425
00:24:43,023 --> 00:24:45,659
trying to take pictures of it,
426
00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:50,363
but the camera, it just wasn't fast enough
to be... to be able to take those pictures.
427
00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:52,324
Then they were gone.
428
00:24:55,285 --> 00:24:59,089
I do believe that when people
come to our area, it's for a reason.
429
00:24:59,289 --> 00:25:02,250
If they're here,
why are they here?
430
00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:05,554
Today we're-we're gonna be
talking about Don Quixote.
431
00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:07,347
Who's familiar with Don Quixote?
432
00:25:07,547 --> 00:25:09,266
I love working with students.
433
00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:11,476
I've always told them,
"You have a mind of your own."
434
00:25:11,676 --> 00:25:14,563
You need to see what information A
and information B has.
435
00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:17,566
Not going against their parents
or going against, uh,
436
00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:19,109
any-any type of doctrine,
437
00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,144
but just to be informed.
438
00:25:22,812 --> 00:25:26,233
We was very driven
to find out what it was that we saw.
439
00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:28,535
The more we dug into it,
440
00:25:28,735 --> 00:25:31,404
I kept developing more questions
than answers.
441
00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:36,918
I don't have enough nerve
to call the NAS, the naval air station.
442
00:25:37,118 --> 00:25:38,754
Angelia, she did.
443
00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:41,623
She'd called down there
and talked to Maj. Carl Lewis.
444
00:25:42,832 --> 00:25:45,844
I called him to check out,
445
00:25:46,044 --> 00:25:48,513
"Were there F-16s in the area?"
446
00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:52,267
He said, "No, we did not have
any F-16s in the area."
447
00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:54,895
The Air Force says
none of its planes were in the area
448
00:25:55,095 --> 00:25:56,396
at the time of the sightings.
449
00:25:56,596 --> 00:25:58,315
Angelia told me that.
450
00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:00,650
And he'd come back
with all kinds of excuses
451
00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:02,486
what we thought we might have seen.
452
00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:06,731
One excuse was a reflection
off of a high-altitude jet airliner.
453
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,700
She says, "What do you think about that?"
454
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,570
And I said, "Is it a reflection
off of my shiny white ass?"
455
00:26:13,863 --> 00:26:15,999
I was really worried
about Steve Allen.
456
00:26:16,199 --> 00:26:17,918
You could tell he was just haggard.
457
00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:21,588
His wife told me
he was on the Internet constantly,
458
00:26:21,788 --> 00:26:23,715
looking for pictures,
459
00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:27,919
trying to find something
that looked like what he had seen.
460
00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:33,433
I told my wife that several of us
was gon' get in our airplanes
461
00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:34,559
and go look for it.
462
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,770
And she, of course, didn't like that idea.
463
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:40,023
But, you know,
it's like telling a-a kid to do something.
464
00:26:40,223 --> 00:26:41,850
We're gon' do what we want to.
465
00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:48,240
Our first thought was,
466
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,575
we hoped we would find
where it was based out of.
467
00:26:50,775 --> 00:26:52,027
It appeared out of nowhere.
468
00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:58,700
So we explored all possibilities.
We combed the whole area.
469
00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:02,412
Then on about the third night...
470
00:27:04,247 --> 00:27:05,799
...we was talking to each other
on the radio.
471
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:07,551
I said, "Do you guys ever feel like
472
00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:09,461
you're looking for a needle
in a haystack?"
473
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,934
What I saw happen in Steve
is the same thing I've seen happen
474
00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:17,060
in a lot of witnesses.
475
00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:19,471
You've got this feeling of control.
476
00:27:19,971 --> 00:27:24,067
And then, suddenly,
you see something close to you,
477
00:27:24,267 --> 00:27:29,156
and it does something
that is so... impossible
478
00:27:29,356 --> 00:27:32,325
that it just shakes the underpinnings
479
00:27:32,525 --> 00:27:35,662
of what they have
always thought the world was.
480
00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:38,081
Ricky Sorrells was deer hunting
in these woods
481
00:27:38,281 --> 00:27:42,461
when he says the UFO stopped
and hovered just over his head.
482
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,464
And I did just like this,
and I could see it. And it...
483
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,799
Ricky Sorrells has
a very interesting story.
484
00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:50,177
Ricky actually had a UFO sighting
485
00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:54,130
almost two weeks, roughly,
before the Stephenville incident.
486
00:27:59,803 --> 00:28:01,480
I met Ricky personally,
487
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,307
and he told me the story
of-of what happened.
488
00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:06,735
He was out deer hunting.
489
00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:09,654
All of a sudden, everything got dark,
490
00:28:09,854 --> 00:28:11,907
like clouds had come overhead.
491
00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:15,819
Well, he looked up,
and there was an object above him.
492
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:19,331
He couldn't tell its size or its shape
493
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:23,919
because it was so large
that it just covered everything above him.
494
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,923
He raised his rifle up
and looked at it through the scope,
495
00:28:28,123 --> 00:28:29,674
so he could get a better view of it.
496
00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:33,845
And, uh, he says, "I looked it over,
and there was no bolts, no rivets,
497
00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:35,722
and it just seemed seamless all over."
498
00:28:35,922 --> 00:28:37,340
And that's all he could see.
499
00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:40,852
And he says,
"I started to go ahead and shoot it,"
500
00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:44,064
but he got to thinking, "That wasn't
the smartest thing I'd ever done."
501
00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:47,526
Sorrells didn't want to start
an interstellar war.
502
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,820
{an8}And when it took off, it took off
so fast, if I would have blinked,
503
00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:52,397
{an8}I would have thought it vanished.
504
00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:55,075
He said, "You know, the amazing thing
505
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:58,870
is that this huge object
that took off at such a high speed,
506
00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:01,164
it should have just sucked me
right along with it."
507
00:29:01,364 --> 00:29:04,876
And he said, "There was nothing.
No sound, no wind. Nothing."
508
00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:09,539
Somehow that object
didn't interact with the atmosphere.
509
00:29:14,669 --> 00:29:17,722
There was one morning, uh,
Ricky came to my house,
510
00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:19,424
and Ricky's in tears.
511
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:22,143
I asked him, "Man, what's going on?"
512
00:29:22,343 --> 00:29:24,703
He said, "Lee Roy,
people are harassing me at my own house."
513
00:29:27,056 --> 00:29:29,359
"Who's harassing you?"
He said, "I don't know."
514
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:32,479
He said, "They tell me
that they, uh, work for the government."
515
00:29:34,814 --> 00:29:37,150
Ricky was definitely
being intimidated.
516
00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:48,870
He found a bullet.
It was definitely military-grade.
517
00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:51,965
He thinks they may have
left that on purpose
518
00:29:52,165 --> 00:29:54,593
to persuade him
not to be speaking about it.
519
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,637
The next thing I know,
um, he is calling me.
520
00:29:57,837 --> 00:30:00,882
He said, "Something's going on.
Somebody's bothering me."
521
00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:05,678
"I'm having all these helicopters
flying over my place."
522
00:30:06,554 --> 00:30:09,891
"They are running my cattle to death."
523
00:30:10,934 --> 00:30:14,613
And he came to me
out of concern for my safety.
524
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:18,074
{an8}Angelia,
assuming that Ricky is not nuts,
525
00:30:18,274 --> 00:30:20,235
{an8}uh, what do you make of this?
526
00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:26,207
{an8}Well, I feel that perhaps
Ricky might have been singled out,
527
00:30:26,407 --> 00:30:31,171
simply because he was the one
that had a daytime sighting.
528
00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:34,424
He had more detail than anyone else,
529
00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:38,002
and I wondered if that might be
why he was singled out.
530
00:30:38,878 --> 00:30:39,878
And, suddenly...
531
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,350
Ricky stops talking to everybody.
532
00:30:43,550 --> 00:30:48,179
I think Ricky saw a lot more
than what the rest of us saw.
533
00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:53,351
Ricky has said he saw some sort
of something inside the aircraft,
534
00:30:54,018 --> 00:30:58,064
and it resembled some sort of insect
or maybe even a praying mantis.
535
00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:06,373
I-I-I think that Ricky was
possibly approached by someone
536
00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:09,993
and offered a monetary agreement.
537
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,537
They wanted him quiet.
538
00:31:13,746 --> 00:31:16,716
A military colonel called me,
one afternoon at my house,
539
00:31:16,916 --> 00:31:19,544
and talked to me
about an hour and 45 minutes.
540
00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:24,140
Says, "We've had a lot of discussion
about you and what to do with you."
541
00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:26,142
"You're kind of a high-profile guy."
542
00:31:26,342 --> 00:31:29,637
"If you just happened to come up missing,
it'd kinda look suspicious."
543
00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:35,902
{an8}They're going against the wind.
The wind's 120 knots west.
544
00:31:36,102 --> 00:31:37,353
{an8}Look at that, dude!
545
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:42,742
I found myself
watching the footage over and over again,
546
00:31:42,942 --> 00:31:44,903
almost obsessively.
547
00:31:46,529 --> 00:31:47,580
I had no awareness
548
00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:52,327
of what the upper chain of command
was doing with this information.
549
00:31:53,828 --> 00:31:57,757
In 2017, I transferred
to the Office of Naval Intelligence.
550
00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:00,635
{an8}I was gonna be an analyst there.
551
00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:06,758
{an8}And, um... shortly
after I arrived, I, uh...
552
00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:12,355
I started to have
these follow-on experiences
553
00:32:12,555 --> 00:32:13,806
with the phenomenon.
554
00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:19,812
That was, like, the beginning of seeing
non-human entities in my room at night.
555
00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:29,789
I would wake up several times a week,
556
00:32:29,989 --> 00:32:35,378
and I would feel my body
kind of sliding across the bed.
557
00:32:35,578 --> 00:32:37,705
And I knew that they were taking me.
558
00:32:38,748 --> 00:32:41,417
I woke up 'cause I felt...
559
00:32:42,543 --> 00:32:45,505
a hand grab my arm right here.
560
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:51,811
So I went to try and raise my hands
to my face to wipe the sleep away,
561
00:32:52,011 --> 00:32:55,306
and, uh, I realized I couldn't move.
562
00:32:56,099 --> 00:33:01,521
And I could just see this outline
of a shadowy figure with...
563
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:07,902
you know, a torso, two arms,
and a head, standing over me.
564
00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:12,499
When I was in the Navy
and I saw this footage,
565
00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:15,627
I knew that there was something out there.
566
00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:18,505
Right? I knew there was
something non-human out there.
567
00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:21,049
So I knew when they started
showing up in my room
568
00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:24,427
that... a-all of this was real.
569
00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:28,589
I-I-I had the luxury of knowing
that I wasn't going crazy.
570
00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:31,801
Right? I knew what it was.
571
00:33:36,264 --> 00:33:38,016
{an8}Whoa! Got it!
572
00:33:39,183 --> 00:33:40,735
{an8}- Woo-hoo!
- Roger.
573
00:33:40,935 --> 00:33:44,147
{an8}There's all kinds
of sensor evidence, radar evidence.
574
00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:47,075
{an8}I think that there's enough footage
575
00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:51,454
that if they just released all of it
and said, "Hey, this is what we have,"
576
00:33:51,654 --> 00:33:53,581
they don't even have to
give an explanation.
577
00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:56,951
They can just say,
"We don't know. This is what we got."
578
00:33:57,577 --> 00:34:01,122
Um, there would be no... no doubt
579
00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:04,259
as to whether or not
the phenomenon is real.
580
00:34:04,459 --> 00:34:06,085
Everyone would know it.
581
00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:08,721
{an8}The US military is now saying
582
00:34:08,921 --> 00:34:11,808
{an8}it was fighter jets,
not UFOs, that folks were seeing
583
00:34:12,008 --> 00:34:13,852
{an8}in the Stephenville area
earlier this month.
584
00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:18,940
The military now says
it was training in the area after all.
585
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:22,485
Ten F-16s over
the Brownwood military operating area.
586
00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:25,905
The military spokesman blames
an internal communications error
587
00:34:26,105 --> 00:34:28,107
for giving out false information.
588
00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,746
There was no more new sightings.
589
00:34:33,946 --> 00:34:36,457
We were clearly not gonna get an answer
from the government or...
590
00:34:36,657 --> 00:34:37,709
on what this could have been.
591
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:41,004
So unless we have something new
and significant to report about it,
592
00:34:41,204 --> 00:34:42,830
we need to get on to other things.
593
00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:46,593
It was a hard thing for Angelia.
594
00:34:46,793 --> 00:34:48,595
She really had a hard time
letting go of it
595
00:34:48,795 --> 00:34:50,213
and breaking away from it.
596
00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:53,349
I just couldn't abandon
those witnesses.
597
00:34:53,549 --> 00:34:58,387
They were thrust into the limelight
just like I was.
598
00:34:58,888 --> 00:35:01,316
Plus, it was shaking them
to their very core
599
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:02,892
about what they had seen.
600
00:35:04,727 --> 00:35:07,030
I had given her an assignment,
and I had this feeling
601
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:09,782
that she wasn't doing it that day,
and she left.
602
00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,452
And I got on her computer
and discovered some emails
603
00:35:12,652 --> 00:35:15,163
that she had sent
saying that the newspaper
604
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:18,750
and the management here,
or me, um, specifically,
605
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:21,711
I'd gotten pressure to shut it down
from the government and the city,
606
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:23,504
and the city officials.
607
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:27,375
And I was pretty upset about that,
'cause none of that was true.
608
00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:30,261
Very strange story with Angelia.
609
00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:33,422
She came into work one morning,
and her computer was gone.
610
00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:37,393
And she says, "Hey, what happened
to my computer and my stuff?"
611
00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:39,720
And they told her
she didn't work there anymore.
612
00:35:40,763 --> 00:35:43,149
Was it a termination? Yes.
But she didn't want to be there.
613
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:44,559
She wanted to continue this.
614
00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:48,146
And that was a story
that I was happy to move on from.
615
00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:52,408
If you look at the UFO phenomenon, for...
616
00:35:52,608 --> 00:35:56,871
It's gone on for 75 years
in the modern era.
617
00:35:57,071 --> 00:36:02,660
And yet, today, we still don't know
much more than we knew 75 years ago.
618
00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:07,757
That's troubling for many
in the field of science
619
00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:12,679
because there's no crystal clear,
solid evidence.
620
00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,723
And-And that's the mystery
of this phenomenon,
621
00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:18,759
is like, "Where is the evidence?"
622
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:36,244
Three o'clock in the morning,
623
00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:39,739
I'd been out working
a moonlighting job in Stephenville.
624
00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:43,201
There's an alarm call at this business.
625
00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:46,671
I went ahead
and advised the sheriff's department
626
00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:49,215
that I was close by
and would take the call.
627
00:36:49,415 --> 00:36:51,092
And when I get out of the car,
628
00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:56,672
I look and I see a pulsating orb
up in the sky.
629
00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,684
Got my dashcam and positioned it,
630
00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:02,637
trying to videotape this object.
631
00:37:03,763 --> 00:37:05,189
I took the video home.
632
00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:09,685
Uh, back then, it was VHS,
and put it in my player at home.
633
00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:20,404
It was not a clear video.
634
00:37:20,988 --> 00:37:24,408
It was like something
was interfering the, uh, quality.
635
00:37:26,452 --> 00:37:29,413
I said, "Man, why is this tape messing up,
right now of all times?"
636
00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:34,302
I had never had a problem
before that with any video.
637
00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:37,889
After that, I used that camera
at least another year and a half,
638
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:39,474
before I went digital.
639
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,217
Never had a problem like that.
640
00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:44,520
Whatever this thing was,
641
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:49,183
whoever was responsible for it
did not want clear footage of it.
642
00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:58,284
I wanted to find corroboration
for the object seen by Lee Roy and Steve,
643
00:37:58,484 --> 00:38:02,905
and all the other witnesses,
in Stephenville on January 8th, 2008.
644
00:38:04,407 --> 00:38:06,125
I had the witness statements.
645
00:38:06,325 --> 00:38:09,045
I knew the when and the where
646
00:38:09,245 --> 00:38:11,089
and the direction they were looking.
647
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:16,260
At the MUFON event,
I met a guy from Colorado, Glen Schulze,
648
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:20,047
and Glen was a former army radar expert.
649
00:38:21,215 --> 00:38:26,679
Anything that flies in the sky is caught
with what's called primary radar data.
650
00:38:28,889 --> 00:38:33,736
So I wanted radar data to support
what the witnesses had told me.
651
00:38:33,936 --> 00:38:37,824
{an8}The FAA won't volunteer those returns
because they say nothing happened.
652
00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,160
{an8}So you have to send
a Freedom of Information Act request in
653
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,321
and force them to release the data.
654
00:38:43,904 --> 00:38:46,916
I sent FOIAs
to every police department,
655
00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:48,876
to every military base.
656
00:38:49,076 --> 00:38:52,630
And the one FOIA that panned out the best
was the FOIA to the FAA,
657
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,007
which provided me with radar data
658
00:38:55,207 --> 00:38:59,253
from five different radar antennae
across the state of Texas.
659
00:38:59,795 --> 00:39:04,592
Glen Schulze and I went four months
to go through the radar data.
660
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,523
Before I went looking for any unknowns,
first thing I did was track the F-16s.
661
00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:13,401
Two F-16s came in hot pursuit.
662
00:39:13,601 --> 00:39:17,113
They were flying
in the same direction as these lights.
663
00:39:17,313 --> 00:39:21,284
These are the two that flew down
to Comanche, Dublin, Stephenville.
664
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,786
So once I identified where the F-16s were,
665
00:39:23,986 --> 00:39:28,532
I went to start looking for objects
that did not have transponders.
666
00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:34,747
So I wanted to see everything
that was not supposed to be in the sky.
667
00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:37,049
I get to where Steve is.
668
00:39:37,249 --> 00:39:40,553
So I'm looking there,
and do I see any unknowns
669
00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:43,047
that are popping up
that match what he described?
670
00:39:45,674 --> 00:39:47,935
What I find is radar data
671
00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:53,641
that confirms what Steve Allen
and Lee Roy Gaitan have told me.
672
00:39:54,266 --> 00:39:56,527
I came out here
to have a campfire,
673
00:39:56,727 --> 00:39:59,739
and all of a sudden,
I see some high-intensity lights,
674
00:39:59,939 --> 00:40:01,908
headed at a high velocity of speed.
675
00:40:02,108 --> 00:40:04,035
Steve is located here.
676
00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:09,790
There are two radar points that showed
an object moving without a transponder.
677
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:13,961
When we first saw the ship,
it was just a few minutes after 6:00.
678
00:40:14,161 --> 00:40:17,373
The two data points
match the time
679
00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:20,709
and the geographical location.
680
00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:25,181
Does its flame-job over Stephenville,
just simply disappears.
681
00:40:25,381 --> 00:40:27,767
This is outside
of military operating area,
682
00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:29,435
so it should have a transponder
683
00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:32,104
if it is military aircraft,
but it doesn't.
684
00:40:32,304 --> 00:40:34,106
In the case of Lee Roy,
685
00:40:34,306 --> 00:40:37,860
I had about five data points on the radar,
686
00:40:38,060 --> 00:40:41,188
indicating there is this object
south of his home.
687
00:40:42,064 --> 00:40:43,574
I came outside.
688
00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:48,195
Something caught my attention
off-off to the, uh, southwest sky.
689
00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:53,367
All of a sudden, these things
just shoot off at a blazing speed.
690
00:40:53,951 --> 00:40:56,871
And they travel, what I say, northeast.
691
00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:59,882
When he says
it moves to the northeast,
692
00:41:00,082 --> 00:41:03,010
I get a data point ten seconds later
693
00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:07,548
that's to the northeast
and is moving at an extreme rate of speed.
694
00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:12,353
It's not very often
that you get radar data
695
00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:15,856
that just corroborates
exactly what a witness said
696
00:41:16,056 --> 00:41:18,526
in terms of geographic location and time.
697
00:41:18,726 --> 00:41:22,947
It showed it in black and white
that there was something flying out there.
698
00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:26,325
And that the speeds
that these things were traveling
699
00:41:26,525 --> 00:41:29,662
are, like, speeds
that we cannot do here on Earth.
700
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:32,039
These stories check out
with the radar data.
701
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,334
So there's absolutely no doubt
that there's an object in the sky
702
00:41:35,534 --> 00:41:39,964
and that the object that's in the sky
does not have a transponder code.
703
00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:43,301
That tells you that you're...
you're dealing with something real,
704
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:44,502
whatever it is.
705
00:41:48,422 --> 00:41:50,266
When you need a boost, try milk.
706
00:41:50,466 --> 00:41:51,934
Okay!
707
00:41:52,134 --> 00:41:54,312
With all the attention
of the UFO sightings,
708
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:57,690
Stephenville will no longer be alien
to the rest of the world.
709
00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:59,525
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710
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711
00:42:01,769 --> 00:42:05,031
Hundreds of UFO sightings
are reported to authorities...
712
00:42:05,231 --> 00:42:08,200
If you're interested in UFOs,
you might wanna come on out,
713
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,610
if you dare.
714
00:42:15,241 --> 00:42:18,160
Is any of this stuff real?
I don't know. I mean...
715
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,122
I think UFOs are just as real as,
716
00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:25,584
you know, the-the lights in this room or...
717
00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:28,637
or the cameras that are in front of me.
718
00:42:28,837 --> 00:42:30,130
I think that, uh...
719
00:42:31,257 --> 00:42:35,311
I think they are very real.
But I think, what is your idea of reality?
720
00:42:35,511 --> 00:42:36,720
That's the question.
721
00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:41,776
You see that the DOD and NASA, even,
722
00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:44,070
they're all hiring physicists
723
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:47,731
to work on this UFO issue.
724
00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:52,111
And that's not
where the truth of this lies.
725
00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:56,665
This lies more
within the realm of the humanities,
726
00:42:56,865 --> 00:43:01,662
within the realm of psychology,
uh, philosophy,
727
00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:03,581
religious studies.
728
00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:07,051
Um, that's where you're gonna find
the truth of this.
729
00:43:07,251 --> 00:43:11,505
No physicist... is gonna be able
to tell you what this is.
730
00:43:13,007 --> 00:43:19,471
Because the physicist maybe can tell you
how physical matter might behave,
731
00:43:20,055 --> 00:43:23,150
but the humanities will tell you why.
732
00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:27,104
It's not a...
It's not a Department of Defense issue.
733
00:43:28,397 --> 00:43:30,941
It's a... It's a human issue is what it is.
734
00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:38,907
And that's why
I could not justify being quiet.
735
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,248
I've got eight children.
736
00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:52,096
We homeschool our kids,
and we've really seen fruit from that.
737
00:43:52,296 --> 00:43:53,431
All right, ready? Up!
738
00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:54,723
Wuh-uh!
739
00:43:54,923 --> 00:43:56,225
Okay, which one first?
740
00:43:56,425 --> 00:43:58,894
Every day starts out
with some type of Bible lesson.
741
00:43:59,094 --> 00:44:00,563
- Ezekiel was a prophet.
- Mm-hmm.
742
00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:03,691
- He was in the Old Testament.
- In the Old Testament.
743
00:44:03,891 --> 00:44:05,234
So check this out.
744
00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:09,488
"I looked, and behold,
a whirlwind was coming out of the North."
745
00:44:09,688 --> 00:44:14,326
"A great cloud
with raging fire engulfing itself,
746
00:44:14,526 --> 00:44:16,162
and brightness was all around it."
747
00:44:16,362 --> 00:44:20,240
"And radiating out of it,
the color of amber,
748
00:44:21,116 --> 00:44:22,877
out of the midst of the fire."
749
00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,629
What was it that Ezekiel was seeing?
750
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:28,499
Not the message part.
I get the message part.
751
00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:30,593
I wanna know what he saw.
752
00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:32,419
"Behold a wheel...
753
00:44:34,046 --> 00:44:35,506
suddenly came to the earth."
754
00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:39,477
"And the rims were full of..."
755
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:41,103
Translate this for me.
756
00:44:41,303 --> 00:44:44,899
"...eyes all the way around."
757
00:44:45,099 --> 00:44:46,692
Eyes or lights.
758
00:44:46,892 --> 00:44:48,235
Lights or...
759
00:44:48,435 --> 00:44:51,405
- Anything, really.
- Windows or... Right?
760
00:44:51,605 --> 00:44:55,526
{an8}To me, I think that talking about UFOs
with my kids, even the littlest ones,
761
00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:58,996
{an8}is making Scripture
a lot more real for them
762
00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:00,623
than just a bunch of stories.
763
00:45:00,823 --> 00:45:04,251
This was Switzerland,
and some guy just got this on video.
764
00:45:04,451 --> 00:45:06,962
It's a UFO.
What does that look like, right there?
765
00:45:07,162 --> 00:45:10,216
- It's a wheel within a wheel.
- And that was two days ago.
766
00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:12,259
The Christian populace
767
00:45:12,459 --> 00:45:15,095
does not wanna believe
that any of this is real,
768
00:45:15,295 --> 00:45:18,224
because if it does,
it changes all of their reality.
769
00:45:18,424 --> 00:45:20,509
You know, then, is the Bible just for us?
770
00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:23,470
Or... Or is it for them too?
771
00:45:27,933 --> 00:45:30,110
That's...
A million-dollar question is,
772
00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:34,690
"Where does life and other planets
and religion fit together?"
773
00:45:36,942 --> 00:45:38,277
If somebody were to ask me,
774
00:45:39,278 --> 00:45:41,196
"Did God make other...
775
00:45:43,574 --> 00:45:45,451
creatures?", I'd say yes.
776
00:45:46,869 --> 00:45:49,004
When Kent was telling us this story,
777
00:45:49,204 --> 00:45:53,425
I was the typical jerk
giving him a hard time, saying,
778
00:45:53,625 --> 00:45:57,004
"Here's a guy
that just saw a flying Dorito."
779
00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:01,308
And when we all looked up
and saw this thing,
780
00:46:01,508 --> 00:46:03,811
all of a sudden, it-it changed us in a way
781
00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:07,639
that we look at both sides
of the story more.
782
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,361
Now when I hear people tell stories
of things they see,
783
00:46:12,561 --> 00:46:14,613
I am not a doubting Thomas.
784
00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:17,575
I'm thinking, you know,
"They saw something."
785
00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:20,277
"I know they did
or why would they be saying this?"
786
00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:24,748
Of course, psychology today
would tell you that,
787
00:46:24,948 --> 00:46:26,917
hey, if you're experiencing these things,
788
00:46:27,117 --> 00:46:29,328
you're seeing things
in your room at night,
789
00:46:29,912 --> 00:46:31,663
that you're schizophrenic.
790
00:46:32,372 --> 00:46:37,044
Or you have some kind
of other severe mental illness.
791
00:46:38,045 --> 00:46:40,848
And, to me, that's not...
That's not correct.
792
00:46:41,048 --> 00:46:42,216
That's not right.
793
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,645
When I made the decision
to talk about this, to leave the Navy,
794
00:46:46,845 --> 00:46:49,807
I was four years away from retirement,
795
00:46:50,307 --> 00:46:53,193
which would have meant,
you know, a pension,
796
00:46:53,393 --> 00:46:55,863
health insurance for the rest of my life.
797
00:46:56,063 --> 00:46:59,158
You know? And I...
I left that all on the table.
798
00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:00,943
And I walked away from it
799
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,330
because this isn't just about me, right?
800
00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:07,783
It's not about me at all.
It's about all of us.
801
00:47:10,494 --> 00:47:12,412
It's about everybody.
802
00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:18,677
Don Quixote is
one of my favorite novels.
803
00:47:18,877 --> 00:47:21,472
And, in it, Don Quixote is a madman.
804
00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:24,558
And everything that he sees,
he sees in a different light.
805
00:47:24,758 --> 00:47:26,760
Don Quixote sees these windmills,
806
00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:29,647
but in his mind, they're not, uh...
807
00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:31,398
They're not windmills. They're giants.
808
00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:33,025
We know that we're not mad.
809
00:47:33,225 --> 00:47:35,361
We know that there is
something credible to this
810
00:47:35,561 --> 00:47:39,314
because too many people saw
these, uh, lights in the sky.
811
00:47:39,982 --> 00:47:42,284
And so, um... We're-We're not...
812
00:47:42,484 --> 00:47:45,153
We're not a Don Quixote.
There's-There's more to this.
813
00:47:46,947 --> 00:47:49,291
You can argue,
"Well, it was some secret
814
00:47:49,491 --> 00:47:51,919
US black project, right?"
815
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,631
But our technologies
don't just suddenly leap
816
00:47:55,831 --> 00:47:59,218
across 100 years of-of technology.
817
00:47:59,418 --> 00:48:01,837
Th-They're gradually created.
818
00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:09,261
In this case, I think whatever people saw
was intelligently controlled.
819
00:48:10,012 --> 00:48:13,524
And it was not manufactured
by the United States
820
00:48:13,724 --> 00:48:15,350
or any other nation, for that matter.
821
00:48:19,646 --> 00:48:20,823
So, about nine months later,
822
00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:24,651
I was driving my daughter
to gymnastics in Dublin,
823
00:48:25,277 --> 00:48:27,821
and I saw... some lights.
824
00:48:30,782 --> 00:48:32,167
I pulled over to the side of the road,
825
00:48:32,367 --> 00:48:34,712
and I just stopped
and looked out my front window.
826
00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:38,382
And they kinda were blinking
or kinda coming in and out of focus.
827
00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:41,176
And then they kinda
came together, cohesively,
828
00:48:41,376 --> 00:48:43,378
and... and just sort of disappeared.
829
00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:46,890
I just was so shaken and so shocked.
I thought, "My gosh."
830
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:49,593
"I'm seeing what everybody's been
talking about all this time."
831
00:48:53,513 --> 00:48:56,692
It felt like the universe was sort of
playing a trick on me, like...
832
00:48:56,892 --> 00:49:00,821
I balked at this story so hard
in the beginning and for so long.
833
00:49:01,021 --> 00:49:05,609
And then, you know, months later,
it was sort of like, you know, here it is.
834
00:49:10,697 --> 00:49:13,876
I can't believe
all of the wonderful people I've met.
835
00:49:14,076 --> 00:49:16,754
And that's the good of UFO reporting.
836
00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:18,464
I've loved every minute of it,
837
00:49:18,664 --> 00:49:21,675
and I hope that I'm gonna be doing this
for a long time.
838
00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:23,627
Thank you.
839
00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:34,229
If I could talk to Angelia again,
I would tell her how brave she was
840
00:49:34,429 --> 00:49:38,066
for understanding
that there was a story there to be told.
841
00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:42,362
And I certainly wish that, uh,
we had parted ways differently if...
842
00:49:42,562 --> 00:49:44,815
My-My biggest regret of all is that.
843
00:49:52,906 --> 00:49:54,166
Our business suffered
844
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:59,046
because I was chasing
the unidentified object that we saw.
845
00:49:59,246 --> 00:50:03,759
So it put an undue strain
on our relationship and her as well.
846
00:50:03,959 --> 00:50:07,137
And after 17 years
of being together and married,
847
00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:09,131
we ended up getting a divorce.
848
00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:13,760
My relationship suffered.
My company suffered. I suffered.
849
00:50:14,386 --> 00:50:17,022
I still consider it a blessing
that I did see it,
850
00:50:17,222 --> 00:50:19,516
and it's forever in my mind.
851
00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:23,311
I'm still on my quest, still to this day.
852
00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:25,605
I will find out what happened.
853
00:50:26,815 --> 00:50:29,985
This is a great big open secret.
854
00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:34,906
Nothing I am saying is anything new.
855
00:50:35,532 --> 00:50:39,453
It's just a matter of,
are you gonna believe it or not?
856
00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:16,999
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