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♪ Stop the world and let me off ♪
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♪ I'm tired ofgoing round and round ♪
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♪ I've played the game oflove and lost ♪
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♪ So stop the world and let me off ♪
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Let me off!
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Let me off!
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♪ My dreams are ♪
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♪ Shattered, don't you see? ♪
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Oh, Lord Almighty.
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♪ Now you no longer care for me ♪
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- You don't care for me.
- Sing it, Cal!
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♪ I miss the wonder ofyour kiss ♪
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Yeah, Cal, come on!
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We're singing up here.
Pull your weight, buddy.
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♪ How could you leave me here like this? ♪
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♪ Stop the world and let me off ♪
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Let me off!
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♪ I'm tired ofgoing round and round... ♪
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That's right. Let's get in there.
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We're there!
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♪ So stop the world and let me off ♪
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Hey, don't forget the beers. Okay?
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- I ain't gonna forget the beers.
- Go!
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Come on.
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Come on.
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I'll give you a boost if you want.
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I don't need your help.
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Ooh, hell, she got you, buddy.
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- Toss them beers.
- Here you go.
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- You got it?
- Okay, let's go.
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All right, all right.
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Hold up, hold up. The beer.
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Take this. Take this.
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Come on.
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These damn shoes.
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Come on in. It's warm.
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Come on, buddy.
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Look, you can even wash your hair.
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I washed mine last month.
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- Hey. Come on.
- Hey.
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- Jerk.
- Watch this. Do it to me.
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Laura, Keith, come here.
Look what I found.
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- Holy shit.
- What the hell is that?
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- What is it...
- Hell you doing?
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Get out of here! Now!
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- Jeez!
- Come on!
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Goddamn kids.
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Give me my damn clothes! Come on!
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Go, go, go, go!
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Turn off the beam, fool.
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We got Steve from Dow,
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Ted from Union Carbide, Jerry from Exxon
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and Andy from Allied.
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Welcome to Taft Law, gentlemen.
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Before we get started,
a little housekeeping.
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Um, all of you know this young man
as the dedicated Taft associate
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who for the past eight years
has buried himself in the Superfund law.
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I'm not paying for that cleanup.
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Well, still it is my pleasure
to share with you that just last week,
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Rob Bilott was welcomed as a partner
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- here at Taft, Stettinius and Hollister.
- Mm-hmm.
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- Good. Good.
- Congratulations.
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Good morning. Taft Law.
One moment. I'll connect you.
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Good morning. Taft Law.
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One moment, please.
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It's the governor's office
calling for, uh...
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calling for Mr. Burke.
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May I help you?
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Wilbur Tennant calling on Robbie Bilott.
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EPA saddled them
with the whole bill,
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and given your client's history
at that site,
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that's a real possibility.
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- I'll take it back to them.
- Good.
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Tab 12, Middletown...
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I know. I'm sorry.
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- But they won't leave.
- Who's "they"?
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I don't know.
They say they know you.
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Um...
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Robbie Bilott?
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Um... yes.
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They call it a landfill.
A dump's what it is.
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They told my brother and me
no chemicals, just trash,
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but we ain't stupid.
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Made them videotapes myself.
All the proof you need.
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They're poisoning the creek,
killing my animals.
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- I'm in the middle of a meeting.
- So I want a lawyer.
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Every damn one in Parkersburg
too yellow to take my case.
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Rob, he wants you back in there.
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They're all scared shitless
of DuPont.
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Well, I ain't scared of nobody.
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Okay. Kathleen is my paralegal.
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She's gonna give you
a directory of lawyers.
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That's why I called your grandma.
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What?
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My neighbor tells me, "Call Alma White.
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Her grandson's some fancy
environment lawyer down in Cincinnati."
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Reception.
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Yes, sir, he's right here. Yes...
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Sir, I am a corporate defense attorney.
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- So?
- I defend chemical companies.
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Well, now you can defend me.
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Rob.
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Uh, 30 seconds, Tom.
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- Uh, I'm sorry, Mr...
- Tennant.
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I can offer you a referral,
but I'm just...
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I just don't see how
I can be of any help to you.
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You can start by watching them tapes,
for one thing.
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Oh, let's go, Earl.
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I'm sorry. I...
I wish you all the luck.
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Don't need your damn luck, boy.
I need your help.
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Rob!
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I'll be back for this,
all right?
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Okay, sure.
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Come on.
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I'm not arguing with the overall analysis.
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My only point is that
whatever we decide upon...
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Do you know where we're going?
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- It's a place right around the corner.
- Yeah?
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What the hell was that all about?
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He knows my grandmother.
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Really?
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Well, my mom's from West Virginia,
uh, from a town, Parkersburg.
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Not us. My father was Air Force.
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We moved around a lot,
but we spent the summers there.
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Come on, Terp. You're buying.
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Of course I am.
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You can be from West Virginia, Rob.
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I won't tell anyone.
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All right, gentlemen.
Morton's it is.
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Three-martini lunch.
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Still deign to eat
with us lowly associates?
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You can't drive an American car.
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Taft-Hartley? Union busting?
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We practically invented it.
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"We"? Besides, I know
a highly esteemed partner
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who still drives American.
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Some real clunkers, too.
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Okay, yeah, but he collects them.
That's different.
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Like his no-name college and law school.
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- No offense.
- Are you listening to this?
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Hey, you guys go ahead, all right?
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- Hey, look, I didn't mean anything by it.
- Oh, no, I got to make a call.
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It's all right. I'll see you there.
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- Okay, we'll save you a fish log.
- Yeah.
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- You can be such an asshole.
- Carla, it was a joke.
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- Yeah.
- We always joke.
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Oh, yeah, you guys
are a couple of jokesters. Anyway...
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You've reached
the residence ofAlma White.
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I can't come to the phone right now...
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He's good.
He's home early tonight, actually.
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Tell him I say, "Howdy, partner."
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She says, "Howdy, partner."
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Are we ever gonna
see him again on Sundays?
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Yes, he can still come
to Sunday dinners, Mom.
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He's a partner,
not the president of the United States.
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I want to make...
Do you have my Bundt pan?
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- Returned it.
- Where? I looked under the counter.
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It's in the right-hand cupboard,
in the plastic.
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- Yeah.
- I thought...
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- Okay, well, we just sat down.
- All right, dear.
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- So I got to go.
- Love to Rob and Teddy.
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All right, see you Sunday.
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- Love to Dad.
- Talk to you later.
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Can you pretend to be surprised
about the cake?
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She wants it to be very special.
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Oh, and the granite samples came in.
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Can you pick them up
on your way home tomorrow?
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Mm.
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- Rob?
- Hmm? Oh, sure.
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Father, Son and the Spirit. Thank you.
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- You okay?
- Yes.
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Bless us, our Lord, and these thy gifts
which we are about to receive
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from thy bounty, through Christ our Lord.
Amen.
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Thank you, God, for our food.
Thank you for family.
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Mm...
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Thank you.
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Hi, Grammers.
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What on earth?
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I tried to call,
but you weren't picking up.
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Oh, well, you know me.
My two fake knees.
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What are you doing here?
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A, uh, farmer came to see me.
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Wilbur Tennant?
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You do know him.
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I don't socialize with him,
if that's what you mean.
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Inez Graham owned the farm next to his.
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I used to take you and Beth over there
when you were little.
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That's the place?
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- You rode that pony.
- Ah.
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I loved that place.
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You saw a cow for the first time.
Learned to milk it.
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I remember you sitting there for hours
making sure you got every last drop.
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Just like you.
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There.
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Mm.
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So, you gonna help him?
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Huh?
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You come up the holler.
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Dump's up the hill.
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Since I started complaining
about my creek, fence goes up.
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All blocked off.
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Hi. I'm Rob.
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Sandra.
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The state, any veterinarian
I called in Parkersburg...
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they will not return my phone calls.
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- Like I bite the hand that feeds.
- No, it's all right.
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- I've already...
- This here's a gall.
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Look at the size of it.
Ain't never seen no gall that big.
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Bigger than the heart.
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That your cow's?
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Look at them teeth.
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Black as night. Here.
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Hoof, all turned in on itself.
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Half my calves born hooves like that.
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Tumor I done cut off the back a heifer.
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How'd you like that on your table?
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What am I looking for?
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You blind, boy?
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Stones as white
as the hairs on my head.
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Bleached.
That's chemicals, I'm telling you.
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My animals drink this water,
cool off in there.
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Get them bloody welts, them dead eyes.
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Charge at me, crazy-like.
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Animals that used to eat
out of my own hand.
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Where are the rest of them?
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Come on.
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In the beginning, I'd bury 'em, each one.
They're family.
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It got to be so many,
pile 'em up, set fire to...
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How many did you lose?
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A hundred and ninety.
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A hundred and ninety cows?
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You tell me nothing's wrong here.
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And...
this landfill wasn't always here?
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No. My brother Jim used to dig
ditches over at DuPont plant.
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Got sick. Couldn't do it no more.
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One day, they come to him,
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offering to buy his land
right up that holler.
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They promised no chemicals.
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And I assume you reached out to DuPont?
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DuPont, the state, the feds.
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I called everybody there is
dozens of times.
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EPA finally comes out here.
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- Oh, they did?
- Well, all for some report.
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What did it say?
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You think they're gonna show me?
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Oh, hey.
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He's been like this all day.
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- Okay. Go on.
- Come here. Aw.
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Aw.
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Of course you're a perfect angel
for Daddy.
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Did you get the tile?
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Um, I'm sorry. No.
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Rob...
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I didn't drive into town today. I'm sorry.
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What do you mean
you didn't drive into town?
257
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,634
I... I had to go to Parkersburg.
258
00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,797
Parkersburg?
Why'd you have to go to Parkersburg?
259
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:53,915
Uh...
260
00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:56,592
I... I may have a client there.
261
00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,157
In West Virginia?
262
00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,720
What kind of a case would you have...
263
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,592
He's a farmer. He knows my grammer.
Not well, but...
264
00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,190
So, you saw her?
265
00:18:08,319 --> 00:18:10,231
- Was your mother there?
- Oh, come on, Sarah.
266
00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:12,630
I didn't sneak off to see my mother.
267
00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,839
So, why did you sneak off?
268
00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,990
I didn't.
269
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,036
Our speaker tonight's
no stranger to the Taft family.
270
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,759
Phillip Donnelly... Phil to us...
271
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,038
serves as in-house corporate counsel
at DuPont,
272
00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:32,558
not only one of America's
most revered chemical companies...
273
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,998
...but one of the few giants
of the industry
274
00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:39,276
that Taft doesn't represent.
275
00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,359
Not yet, anyway.
276
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,996
That's the spirit, James.
277
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,675
We asked Phil here tonight
not just to show him what he's missing,
278
00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:53,711
but to hear how a renowned leader
of our industry stays that way.
279
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:55,836
Please welcome Phil Donnelly.
280
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- Wish me luck.
- Go get 'em, Phil.
281
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,276
Thank you.
282
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,069
At DuPont, we're not producing
chemicals for chemicals' sake.
283
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,196
We're producing them for people's sake.
284
00:19:08,279 --> 00:19:13,036
To make folks' lives easier,
happier, longer.
285
00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:18,633
That's why
"better living through chemistry"
286
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,477
is not just a slogan at DuPont.
287
00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:25,720
It's our DNA.
288
00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:31,592
- Hey, Rob.
- Hello, Phil.
289
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,239
Is it true what Tom tells me?
290
00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:34,816
- Yeah, it's true.
- Well, good on them.
291
00:19:34,839 --> 00:19:36,559
- They're lucky to have you.
- Thanks, Phil.
292
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,792
Like I always tell my young associates,
just keep your head down and do the work.
293
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,759
Thanks. Uh, Phil, can I ask you
sort of an odd question?
294
00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:45,875
Shoot.
295
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,200
Does the name Wilbur Tennant
ring a bell?
296
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,237
- Tennet, did you say?
- Tennant.
297
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,074
No, not that I recall.
298
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,720
Mr. Tennant's a farmer
from West Virginia.
299
00:19:56,839 --> 00:20:00,071
His property abuts
one of your landfills, Dry Run,
300
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,798
and his cows have been getting sick.
301
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,920
He thinks possibly because of the runoff
from the landfill into his creek.
302
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,719
You're kidding.
How did this come to you?
303
00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:09,119
Hey, Phil.
304
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,112
He's a... a farmer. He's...
305
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,798
My grandmother's from Parkersburg.
306
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,236
Really? Washington Works.
Great plant.
307
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,713
Right. She knows the Tennants.
308
00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:20,712
- So, Grandma's on your back, huh?
- Something like that. Anyway, uh...
309
00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:24,400
the farmer said the EPA came out,
took a look around.
310
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,516
I wondered...
311
00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:27,319
- The name of the landfill again?
- Dry Run.
312
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,075
Dry Run. Dry...
313
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,056
You know, that does ring a bell,
now that you mention it.
314
00:20:32,079 --> 00:20:34,116
We may have even sent
some folks out there,
315
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,016
if I remember correctly,
to help EPA check it out.
316
00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:37,269
That... That's got to be it.
317
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,479
So I'd love to share whatever came of that
with Mr. Tennant, help settle his nerves.
318
00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:44,597
Absolutely. Soon as I'm back
in Wilmington, I'll take a look.
319
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,313
Thanks, Phil. I really appreciate it.
320
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,435
Happy to do it.
321
00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:51,069
Now, let's get a drink
and toast you, my friend. You.
322
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,640
- All right.
- Okay, then.
323
00:21:01,079 --> 00:21:02,308
Mr. Tennant!
324
00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:11,433
Mr. Tennant.
325
00:21:11,519 --> 00:21:13,000
I have the report.
326
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,393
Sons of bitches.
Who the hell they think they are?
327
00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:20,079
Who gives them the right?
328
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,913
- It's an evaluation.
- "Evalu..."
329
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,160
Hatchet job's what it is.
330
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,117
I've been farming my entire life.
Entire life!
331
00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:31,472
You read that.
You tell me you recognize my farm.
332
00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:33,000
- Mr. Tennant...
- Read it!
333
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,355
"The herd health investigation
revealed deficiency in herd management,
334
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,632
including poor nutrition,
inadequate veterinary care,
335
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,877
and lack of fly control."
336
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,473
You see any flies here?
337
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,789
It's snowing.
338
00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:56,276
Can't stop making excuses for 'em,
can you?
339
00:21:58,039 --> 00:22:01,112
It could be pests. They consulted a vet.
340
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,680
Whose vet? DuPont?
341
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,076
Look at yourself.
342
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,797
Swallowing whole
whatever they've been feeding you.
343
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,200
Can't tell truth from lie.
344
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,032
You even watch them tapes I gave you?
345
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,270
Sir, I am trying to help.
346
00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:18,869
Quiet.
347
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,519
Trying to help.
348
00:22:20,599 --> 00:22:21,750
Stop moving.
349
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,592
Easy, now. Easy.
350
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,236
Get in.
351
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:37,799
Slow.
352
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,715
Forgive me, girl.
353
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:30,519
Jesus.
354
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,319
Need something
to warm you up right about now?
355
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,436
Well, how about this?
356
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:36,271
♪ Almost heaven ♪
357
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,752
♪ West Virginia ♪
358
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,037
♪ Blue Ridge Mountains ♪
359
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,272
♪ Shenandoah River ♪
360
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,396
♪ Life is old there ♪
361
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,314
♪ Older than the trees ♪
362
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,119
♪ Younger than the mountains ♪
363
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,589
♪ Growing like a breeze ♪
364
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,036
♪ Country roads ♪
365
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,314
♪ Take me home ♪
366
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,119
♪ To the place ♪
367
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,238
♪ I belong ♪
368
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,875
♪ West Virginia ♪
369
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,713
♪ Mountain mama... ♪
370
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,440
One thing or another.
371
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,355
This cow's eyes are cloudy with...
the pink eye is what they'll call it.
372
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:25,160
Anyway, her eyes are sunk
way back in her head.
373
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,711
She's poor as a whip-poor-will.
374
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,510
And I'm gonna cut her open
and find out what caused her to die.
375
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,877
'Cause I was feeding her enough feed
376
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,349
that she should've gained weight
instead oflosing weight.
377
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,958
This is what her teeth looks like.
378
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,717
That's the upper one.
379
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,799
But this one here...
380
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:52,598
I've never seen
anything like it in my lifetime.
381
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:55,830
Even the veterinarian, he'd been in it,
382
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,599
he would've never saw anything like this
before in his life, either.
383
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,278
So, what...
384
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,038
are you proposing we do?
385
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:18,230
File a claim, trigger discovery,
and find out what's in that landfill.
386
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,273
You want to sue DuPont?
387
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,830
Targeted. Property dispute. Routine stuff.
388
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,673
Not routine. Not around here.
389
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:28,319
I know, but, Tom,
if you'd actually seen it.
390
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,593
His farm is like a graveyard.
There's something very wrong.
391
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,194
So he should hire a local lawyer.
392
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:38,313
None of them will do it.
They're all terrified of DuPont.
393
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,471
- What does that tell you?
- We know DuPont.
394
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,679
They're gonna want to hear
395
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:45,638
if some of their local guys
are screwing something up.
396
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,519
Oh, so they're gonna thank us
for suing them?
397
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:50,353
Better us than the EPA.
398
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,954
I mean, new partners are supposed to
bring in business, right?
399
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:55,430
So your farmer can swing $275 an hour?
400
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,636
It'd be, uh, on contingency.
401
00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:01,037
Jesus. What are we, coupon chasers now?
402
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,476
It's a small matter for a family friend.
403
00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:05,034
I'll get in and I'll get out.
404
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:07,559
Help a guy who needs it.
405
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,676
Who? The farmer or you?
406
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:31,991
Surgical. You hear me?
407
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:33,355
Absolutely. Thank you.
408
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,935
Come on, Rob.
409
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,791
Of course I'm gonna take your call.
410
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,792
Even though I was, I admit,
a little surprised.
411
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,348
I mean, getting sued by Taft Law?
412
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,874
It's not every day, or any day, frankly.
413
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,279
I know. I'm sorry.
414
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,875
Look, you and I are friends.
This is a minor issue.
415
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,111
No reason it should get messy.
416
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,634
Uh, thank you. I, uh, totally agree.
417
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,920
Yeah, I'm putting you on speakerphone.
418
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,556
So, you want to know
if we violated our permits.
419
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,710
Pretty much, yeah.
420
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,471
Okay, then.
I'll have ourguys send over
421
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,314
anything related to hazardous waste
at Dry Run,
422
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,199
and I'll tell them
to hurry it up this time.
423
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:16,317
- How's that?
- Thank you. That sounds great.
424
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,550
And don't stress. I forgive you.
425
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,358
Thanks, Phil.
426
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:43,273
You took your baby into the office.
427
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:45,078
I needed a bigger trunk.
428
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:46,839
Why?
429
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,195
Discovery for the Tennant case
came in today.
430
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:50,395
Oh.
431
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,357
Oh, you started before me.
432
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,736
- You're so fast!
- Oh, you like that?
433
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:55,375
- What do you think about that?
- Good boy.
434
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,869
Rob's missing such a lovely day.
435
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,472
Law's a jealous mistress, Mom.
Means it comes with the territory.
436
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:04,232
Let's go over here!
437
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,296
Nice! Thank you.
That's what I'm talking about right there.
438
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:09,799
No score, just underway
in the top of the first.
439
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,200
All right, let's go.
One more, one more. All right.
440
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:25,555
"Phenyl..."
441
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:33,509
"Poly."
442
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:34,599
What's that?
443
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,236
No.
444
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:55,557
Mm...
445
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:01,816
How's my favorite plaintiff's attorney?
446
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:03,135
Hey, help me out, will you?
447
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,516
You're a run-of-a-mill dump,
nothing but trash.
448
00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:07,114
You sound like my first girlfriend.
449
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:13,198
Why a requisition order
for 55-gallon containers?
450
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:14,395
Conspiracy.
451
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,709
Standard-size drums.
452
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:20,032
Ash, ash by-product,
glass tubing, plastic, paper waste.
453
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,555
It's just trash.
You pile it onto a truck, drive it away.
454
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,835
You don't pack it into drums.
455
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,309
- So they've got liquid waste.
- Not hazardous.
456
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:30,191
Or they'd have to disclose it.
So, what is killing these cows?
457
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:32,589
- It's not paper and ash.
- Well, maybe it's human error.
458
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,433
They're dumping something in there
they don't know is toxic.
459
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:37,074
Kim, it's DuPont.
460
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,755
They know more than the EPA does.
461
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:41,593
Everyone knows more than the EPA does.
462
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,672
Why else would they let us
regulate ourselves?
463
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:47,155
What?
464
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:48,953
Do we?
465
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:50,039
Do we what?
466
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,872
The EPA only started
regulating chemicals in '76.
467
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Yeah?
468
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,960
They grandfather in
every existing chemical nonhazardous
469
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,750
unless they knew it was hazardous
or a company told them it was.
470
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,720
- We're saying the same thing.
- No, we're not.
471
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:10,113
I'm saying, what if a company didn't tell?
472
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:17,518
What if the reason Phil Donnelly agreed
to discovery on hazardous
473
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:19,114
is because he knows
474
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,638
whatever's in that landfill
isn't even regulated?
475
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,357
Okay, now you are sounding
like a plaintiff's attorney.
476
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,440
I've got a meeting.
477
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:28,955
Hey. Oh, wait one second.
478
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,192
Have you...
Have you heard of this, um, PFOA?
479
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:35,315
No.
480
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,655
Uh, you know, it's mentioned here,
481
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,751
but I can't find anything about it
in any of the literature.
482
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:41,718
I don't even know if it's a chemical.
483
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:42,994
Ask Phil.
484
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,355
Well, thank you.
485
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,829
As I said,
Mr. Donnelly is still out of town.
486
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,798
Well, I called last week
and left two messages
487
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,935
and haven't heard back from him.
488
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,016
I will be sure to tell him
that you called again.
489
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,400
Okay. Damn it.
490
00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:58,375
Your tickets
to the Chemical Alliance dinner.
491
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,432
And, no, dark suit
is not the same as black tie.
492
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:04,715
Wouldn't he be going?
493
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,590
I don't know if Rob told you,
494
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,576
but I was a receptionist at Taft
before law school.
495
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:41,239
- Is that right?
- Yeah, but, well,
496
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:42,776
I think the right Bilott ended up there.
497
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,336
- Harold, you're not getting away from me.
- Oh.
498
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:45,920
- Would you excuse me?
- Sure, it was...
499
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,632
- It's great to see you.
- When is the...
500
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,915
That's funny.
501
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,750
Right away,
I saw a little of myself in Rob.
502
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,150
- Oh.
- One black sheep to another.
503
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:58,836
- My dad was a steelworker, you know.
- Was he?
504
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,194
- Yeah.
- Have you seen Phil?
505
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:02,519
No.
506
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,557
- So, you're an attorney?
- Oh, uh, recovering.
507
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,673
I represented employers
in workmen comp disputes,
508
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:11,393
but now I stay at home with our baby.
509
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,994
Well, that's the thing
with lady lawyers.
510
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:15,455
- Oh. Oh, Gerald!
- Oh.
511
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,215
I want to say hi to the Dow folks.
Have you seen them?
512
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,594
No, I've been looking for Phil.
513
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,016
Did I tell you they sent me some work?
514
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,872
Dow? That's great.
515
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,791
Just a small project, like a tryout.
516
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,031
But if I impress them,
can you imagine if I brought on Dow?
517
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:29,714
Uh, none for me, thank you.
518
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,675
You're not...
519
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,076
I'm, um...
520
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:37,359
You're...
521
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,915
- She's... You...
- I'm...
522
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,640
I'm gonna wait as long as I can
to tell the firm, obviously.
523
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,336
Would you excuse us for a moment?
These lady lawyers need a quick sidebar.
524
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:46,655
- Congratulations.
- Thank you.
525
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,680
Of course.
526
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:49,296
- No, no...
- He probably signs your paycheck.
527
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,436
- Be nice to him.
- Don't leave me.
528
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,599
- Congratulations.
- I know. I can't believe it.
529
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,240
Uh, uh, excuse me.
530
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,876
Uh, Rob, how are you?
531
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,615
Yeah, Phil, I've been trying to reach you.
532
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,735
Sorry, all this traveling.
How about I give you a shout tomorrow?
533
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,056
We're gonna need to broaden discovery
534
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,675
to everything in that landfill,
hazardous or not.
535
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,876
Turns out good lawyers.
Turned out...
536
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,596
Excuse me.
537
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:27,750
You kidding me?
538
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,355
No. Um...
539
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,873
I think whatever's
causing problems in there
540
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,192
isn't something the EPA regulates
or knows to regulate.
541
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,349
Sorry?
542
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,672
I'm seeing things in your documents
I don't understand.
543
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,295
You're seeing ghosts
is what you're seeing.
544
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,550
And, frankly,
you're making an ass of yourself.
545
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,791
Okay, then help me out.
I mean, like this.
546
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,237
I mean, what is this, uh, PFOA?
547
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,393
What's that stand for?
548
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,949
Jesus.
You're on a goddamn fishing expedition.
549
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:04,190
You want to flush your career
down the toilet for some cowhand?
550
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,838
Be my guest. I'm done helping you.
551
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480
Phil, I need to insist
on broadening discovery.
552
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:09,755
Sue me!
553
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,150
I'm already suing you.
554
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,275
Welcome, everyone,
555
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,318
to the 14th annual
Ohio Chemical Alliance...
556
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,717
- Fuck you!
- ...awards dinner.
557
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,516
Hick.
558
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:29,590
So, let's get the fun started!
559
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,074
I'm sorry.
560
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:53,393
You're not the only one
who's sacrificed.
561
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,277
I just hope you know what you're doing.
562
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,896
You know the difference between
business and pleasure, right?
563
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,516
So, why on earth would you engage
in business conversations
564
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:16,000
at a public function?
565
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:19,914
Tom. He's hiding something.
You saw his reaction.
566
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,797
Yeah, me and everyone in that room.
567
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,711
Taft in a pissing match with DuPont.
568
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,949
I am gonna get a court order
569
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,215
and force them to tell me everything
that's in that landfill.
570
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,550
Jesus Christ, now you want
to actually take them to court.
571
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:31,710
And I'm gonna need
local counsel in West Virginia.
572
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,313
What happened to routine stuff?
573
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,277
- Get in, get out? God!
- Ask Phil Donnelly.
574
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,376
Of course I remember you.
575
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,871
Yeah, last time I saw you,
I think Phil Donnelly
576
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,815
was trying to get you
to go out on the links with us.
577
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,255
- Yeah.
- Actually, I'm suing him,
578
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,875
and I was looking for some advice
on local counsel.
579
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,880
You what?
580
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,436
- Larry.
- Thank you.
581
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,353
- Good morning.
- Okay.
582
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:15,800
- Good morning, Larry.
- Morning.
583
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,869
Morning, Miss Claire.
584
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:26,230
Don't you look nice.
585
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,360
Save it for the judge, Mr. Winter.
586
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,914
You're suing DuPont.
587
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,840
Yes, ma'am.
588
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:40,398
You represent DuPont.
589
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,516
My old firm did.
590
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:44,000
I've been out on my own for a while.
591
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:46,710
Good luck with that.
592
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,750
Just wanted
to let you know personally
593
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,753
that your court-ordered discovery
is on the way.
594
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,476
Thanks, Phil.
595
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,117
No, it's my pleasure.
596
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,389
Discovery.
597
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,719
Son of a bitch.
598
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,394
All right, no admission of liability.
599
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,952
And non...
600
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,795
Nondisclosure of any and all terms.
601
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:34,596
Pardon me a moment.
602
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:51,039
Thanks.
603
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,036
Holy Jesus.
604
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:56,190
- What in the...
- Thanks.
605
00:38:58,159 --> 00:38:59,159
...world?
606
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,719
I guess the joke's on me.
607
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:02,599
- Yeah.
- Hmm.
608
00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:06,056
No one can go through all this crap,
not in a million years.
609
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,159
Yeah, I'm pretty sure
that's what they're banking on.
610
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:12,954
- Oh, goddamn it!
- Oh, God, Rob.
611
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:19,440
- Here, let me...
- No, no, no.
612
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:21,239
You shouldn't be around this stuff.
613
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,391
- You sure?
- I'm positive.
614
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,719
Thank you, though.
615
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:27,199
Yeah.
616
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,800
Good luck.
617
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,918
1957.
618
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,431
Egg salad.
What is the holdup back there?
619
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:04,039
- Hey, Bobby. How you...
- What are you having?
620
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,960
Usual.
621
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,393
Eggs over, bacon and grits.
622
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,239
Same.
623
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:20,117
I need two over, grits, twice.
624
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,559
Wilbur Tennant.
625
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:33,376
He's not in his office.
Can I take a message?
626
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,753
I been leaving messages.
627
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,989
I know, Mr. Tennant,
628
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,150
but he really can't get
to the phone right now.
629
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,878
I want service!
630
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,856
- I'll let him know that you called again.
- For Christ's sakes.
631
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,175
Is she getting accustomed
to being at Mom and Dad's?
632
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:49,215
You know Grammer.
She misses her own house.
633
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,708
- What? Uh...
- She misses her own house.
634
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:53,994
Um, I have a bad cell.
635
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,117
I said Grammer misses her own house.
636
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,391
Okay, can you... Can I talk to her?
637
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,000
Well, she and Mom are at the doctor's.
638
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:03,034
Will you tell Grammers I called?
639
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:04,269
Rob, you're breaking...
640
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,536
- You're breaking up.
- And Mom, too.
641
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:07,159
- Let's try again on Sunday.
- All right.
642
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,030
"C-8."
643
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,510
You know you look
like a crazy person, right?
644
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:27,909
What was the name of that guy
that you brought by?
645
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,275
- The, um...
- What guy?
646
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,710
Th-Th-The chemistry expert.
647
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,076
- The guy who does the models.
- Gillespie.
648
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:38,190
Here you go.
649
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:40,315
- Thank you.
- Mm-hmm.
650
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,231
Kim Burke had an expense account.
651
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,639
- Oh, sorry. It's not that kind of case.
- Hmm.
652
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,838
Are you familiar
with something called PFOA?
653
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,760
No.
654
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,760
No. No.
655
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,916
I did read something recently
about a PFOS, I think it was.
656
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,672
That sounds related.
657
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,159
And what was that?
658
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,559
Long-chain fluorocarbon, synthetic.
659
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,077
I'm sorry. Chemistry was
my worst class in high school.
660
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,510
Boy, you in the wrong line of work.
661
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,034
Tell me about it. So?
662
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,199
- So, synthetic. Right? Man-made.
- Mm-hmm.
663
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,351
- Uh, Frankenstein.
- And?
664
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:29,679
Um, long-chain fluorocarbon is a sequence
of carbon atoms, add a fluoride.
665
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,469
All right, in the lab,
you take a carbon atom.
666
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:37,996
- Mm-hmm.
- And then you add another carbon atom.
667
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:41,233
And then another and another.
668
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:42,715
Look.
669
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,193
You're making a chain, right?
670
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,239
Right?
671
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,030
Could it be... eight? Eight carbons?
672
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,715
Well, sure. Yeah.
In the lab, you can do almost anything.
673
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,476
And why would you want to?
674
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:00,596
Make this, I mean.
675
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:04,956
Well, a chain like that's
pretty much unbreakable,
676
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:06,440
biochemically speaking.
677
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,512
So, uh, industrial uses, I imagine.
678
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:11,634
3M made it.
679
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,157
They don't anymore. That's what I read.
680
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:15,710
And why did they stop?
681
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:17,559
Didn't say.
682
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,840
What if...
683
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:24,079
What if you drank it?
684
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:29,195
Drank it? You don't.
685
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,510
- But what if you did?
- Ready to order?
686
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:33,079
- Yeah, I think I'd like a...
- Wait.
687
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,876
What if you did?
688
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,199
That's like saying,
"What if I swallowed a tire?"
689
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,360
I don't know.
You want to be the guy that finds out?
690
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:45,795
Tuna melt.
691
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:06,280
Let us all begin
692
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,155
with hymn number 452 in our hymnal books:
693
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,958
"Here I Am, Lord."
694
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:13,360
Please rise.
695
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,916
♪ I, the Lord of sea and sky ♪
696
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,869
♪ I have heard my people cry ♪
697
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,590
♪ All who dwell in deepest sin ♪
698
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:35,197
♪ My hand will save ♪
699
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:37,119
♪ I have made... ♪
700
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:38,394
It makes sounds here.
701
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:40,239
Asteroid ahead.
702
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:43,239
Makes sounds like that.
703
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,471
Are you ready to blast off?
704
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:00,751
I'm taking off that.
705
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,436
You said it had fluoride?
706
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:35,376
What? Mr. Bilott, it's Sunday.
707
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,472
That chemical,
you said it had a fluoride atom.
708
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:42,634
It's a fluorocarbon, so yes.
Somewhere along the chain...
709
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,076
What would it do to your teeth
if you drank it?
710
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:46,719
Don't tell me if you shouldn't.
711
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,713
If you drank a lot of it,
what would it do to your teeth?
712
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:52,476
Well, in trace amounts,
fluoride hardens teeth,
713
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:54,552
but too much, it's gonna stain 'em.
714
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:57,313
I mean, even turn 'em black.
715
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,717
So, can I get back to my family now?
716
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,559
Whoa, whoa. Where are you going?
717
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,514
- It's in their water.
- What? What is?
718
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:48,639
How long's the coughing been?
719
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,635
Couple... Couple months.
720
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:55,675
- A year.
- You a smoker?
721
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,228
No.
722
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:01,197
Roll up your sleeve.
We're gonna take some blood.
723
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,119
Thought you left him inside.
724
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:18,675
I did.
725
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:24,230
Oh, baby.
726
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:35,269
You move this?
727
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,280
What?
728
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,760
Did you go through this?
729
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,956
No.
730
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,594
They been here. They been here.
731
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,594
What happened?
732
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,280
Wash up.
733
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:31,559
Dad?
734
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:35,750
- What is it?
- Quiet.
735
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,038
This is my land, damn you!
You get out of here!
736
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,989
Go on!
737
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,360
Go on!
738
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:56,838
- Sandra, girls, go on!
- What's going on?
739
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,036
Go on, get in! Get in!
740
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,396
I know you!
741
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,840
Rob?
742
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:43,313
Holy crap. Rob!
743
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,429
What?
744
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,989
I thought someone was breaking in,
for God's sakes!
745
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:49,559
No, it's just me.
746
00:52:49,639 --> 00:52:51,519
You need to tell me
what in the hell's going on.
747
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,034
We're being poisoned.
748
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,353
- Rob.
- What?
749
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,036
I mean it.
DuPont is knowingly poisoning us.
750
00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:06,476
You mean the farmer, his land.
751
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,469
All of us.
752
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:12,039
Please don't look at me like that.
753
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:15,438
They're already poisoning the baby.
754
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,237
No. No, I'm not listening to this.
755
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,789
- Sarah...
- Stop it! Just stop it, okay?
756
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,393
Do you hear yourself?
You are acting like a crazy person.
757
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,438
Tearing up our floor,
scaring me half to death.
758
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,431
I know it's my job to support you,
759
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:33,791
but that does not mean you get to come
into our home, to our family,
760
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,155
and tell me that our unborn child
is being poisoned.
761
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,992
- No!
- I'm sorry.
762
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:40,389
- Can I please explain?
- Explain what?
763
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,480
All of it.
764
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,039
And if you still think I'm crazy,
I'll drop it. I swear to God.
765
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:49,755
I swear to you.
766
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,358
There is a man-made chemical.
767
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,315
It was invented
during the Manhattan Project.
768
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:16,119
It repelled the elements,
especially water.
769
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,152
So they used it to make the first-ever
waterproof coating for tanks.
770
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,239
It was indestructible.
771
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:26,753
Then some companies thought,
"Hey, why just the battlefield?
772
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,719
Why not bring this chemical
into American homes?"
773
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,199
- Rob's here.
- All right, good.
774
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,480
He'll see you now.
775
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,152
DuPont was one of those companies.
776
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,630
So they took this chemical, PFOA,
they renamed it C-8...
777
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,554
and they made
their own impenetrable coating,
778
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,114
but not for tanks.
779
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:53,199
For pans.
780
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,637
They called it Teflon.
781
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,677
A shining symbol of American ingenuity
782
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,117
made right here in the USA
in Parkersburg, West Virginia.
783
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,190
But right from the start,
something wasn't right.
784
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:15,512
The men and workers who made Teflon
were coming down with nausea, fevers.
785
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,239
DuPont wanted to know why.
786
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,519
So they laced cigarettes with Teflon.
787
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,034
They told a group of the workers,
"Hey, smoke these."
788
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,797
DuPonters did as they were told.
789
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:29,436
Almost all those men were hospitalized.
790
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,320
That's 1962,
791
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,079
one year after Teflon launched,
and already DuPont knew.
792
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:43,068
The dust, they just sent
right up the smokestacks,
793
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:44,275
released into the air.
794
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:47,599
The sludge, tossed it into the Ohio.
795
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:51,958
Or, uh, packed into drums
and chucked it into the Chesapeake.
796
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,757
But then the drums started washing up.
797
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,755
So DuPont starts digging ditches
798
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,831
on the grounds
of the Washington Works plant,
799
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,757
and in those pits, they dumped
800
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,199
thousands of tons
of toxic C-8 sludge and dust.
801
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,000
One of the men that they hired
to dig those ditches
802
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:11,878
was Wilbur Tennant's brother Jim.
803
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,951
But they weren't the only ones
covering their tracks.
804
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,231
3M, who pioneered these chemicals
for Scotchgard,
805
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,878
they were testing them on monkeys.
806
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,793
Most of the monkeys died.
807
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,077
It wasn't like DuPont didn't know that,
808
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:28,119
because they were doing
their own tests on rats.
809
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:30,759
Watched their organs balloon.
810
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,791
Now the rats are getting cancers.
811
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,956
Tested them on pregnant rats
and watched them give birth
812
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,231
to pups with deformed eyes.
813
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:44,550
So they yanked all the young women
off the Teflon line
814
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:45,994
and never told them why.
815
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,911
Sue Bailey's job
was scrubbing these huge steel vats
816
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,672
where they held the liquid C-8.
817
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:57,795
She was pregnant.
818
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,596
I love you.
819
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:00,960
Would you stop?
820
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,237
She gave birth to a baby
with one nostril and a deformed eye.
821
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,876
Remember how DuPont had seen
those deformities in the rats?
822
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:14,556
Oh, God.
823
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:15,789
What about his eyes?
824
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:18,152
Blue, just like all newborns.
825
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:20,630
But they're normal,
the lids, the pupils?
826
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:23,188
Mr. Bilott, relax.
827
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,429
He's perfect.
828
00:57:24,519 --> 00:57:26,989
Ah, hey. Hi, Charlie.
829
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:29,878
So Sue goes to DuPont.
830
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,793
She says, "Why did you
pull me off the Teflon line?
831
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,914
Did C-8 make my baby this way?"
832
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,070
"No," they tell her.
833
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,518
Then all of her records
from her time at Teflon disappear.
834
00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:47,072
One year later, they put all of the women
back on Teflon
835
00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:50,436
and never say a thing.
836
00:57:56,519 --> 00:57:57,519
He's here.
837
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:03,634
DuPont knew everything.
838
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:08,315
They knew that the C-8
they put into the air
839
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,030
and buried into the ground for decades
was causing cancers.
840
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:15,795
They knew that their own workers
were getting these cancers.
841
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,032
They knew that the consumers, too,
were being exposed.
842
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:20,918
And not just in Teflon.
843
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:27,269
In paints, in fabrics,
in, uh, raincoats, boots.
844
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,159
To this day.
845
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:35,311
For 40 years,
you knew C-8 was poison.
846
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:39,398
You knew the Happy Pan
was a ticking time bomb.
847
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:42,391
And you knew exactly why.
848
00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:45,516
Because C-8, it stays in us forever.
849
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,751
Our bodies are incapable
of breaking it down.
850
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,317
And knowing all of this,
still you did nothing,
851
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,278
because doing something, quote...
852
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,793
"would essentially put
the long-term viability
853
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,351
of this product segment
on the line," end quote.
854
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,273
You were making too much money.
855
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,197
$1 billion a year,
just in profit, just in Teflon.
856
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:21,358
And so you pumped millions more pounds
of toxic C-8 into the air, into the water,
857
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,000
so much so
you could actually see it foam.
858
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:26,838
C-8 was everywhere.
859
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,391
There was nowhere left
for you to contaminate.
860
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,751
And that's when they came to Jim.
861
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,672
They knew he was sick
and needed the money,
862
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,079
and they needed his land.
863
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,311
And when they got it,
they dug up all the C-8
864
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,119
from every single pit
at Washington Works...
865
00:59:48,199 --> 00:59:53,559
14 million pounds of toxic C-8 sludge...
and they dumped it again.
866
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:57,190
This time, right up there.
Steps from your creek, from your house.
867
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,231
And that's what your cows
have been drinking, Earl.
868
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:07,715
Put 'em behind bars.
869
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,557
Whole damn lot of 'em, rot in jail.
870
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:13,438
I understand, believe me,
but this is a civil case.
871
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:15,512
The most we could hope for is damages.
872
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:16,635
Don't want no money!
873
01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:18,835
Whole damn world need...
874
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:27,000
needs to see what they done.
875
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:28,119
You're right. They should.
876
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,036
And it kills me that they won't.
877
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:38,715
But that would mean going to trial
and proving that C-8 killed your cows.
878
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:41,838
And every scientist who knows
anything about any of this
879
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,672
already works
for these chemical companies.
880
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,512
That's not an accident, Earl.
881
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,072
Earl, these companies,
they have all the money,
882
01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:53,072
all the time, and they'll use it.
883
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:55,356
Trust me, I know. I was one of them.
884
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,440
You're still one of 'em.
885
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,119
You can't be serious.
886
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,797
You know what I put on the line here?
887
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,280
You want a prize?
888
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,717
Some medal 'cause, for once in your life,
you took the side of the little guy?
889
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:14,230
Sorry, no prize.
890
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,152
All you get is your share
of this blood money.
891
01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:18,072
And you sleep real good tonight.
892
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:19,309
Talk to your family.
893
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,155
It ain't just my cows that was poisoned.
894
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,077
What you think I fed my family on?
895
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:25,755
Wilbur...
896
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:28,155
please!
897
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,675
Leave this place!
898
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,436
Start over!
Give your family a fighting chance!
899
01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:37,635
Too late for that.
900
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:43,791
We got it, Sandra and me, the cancer.
901
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:46,914
Surprise, surprise.
902
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,510
In here.
903
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:52,510
How'd it go?
904
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,436
What's wrong?
905
01:02:57,519 --> 01:02:58,519
Rob?
906
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:00,996
Rob, what is it?
907
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,353
What happened? What happened?
908
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:11,032
Oh, honey, honey, honey.
909
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,637
You saw a man hurting, and...
910
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,639
you did the Christian thing.
911
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:22,190
- You helped him.
- How? How? How?
912
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,918
Either he dies penniless,
913
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,472
or he lets DuPont
just keep pillaging his community.
914
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:28,789
How is that helping?
915
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,594
Got to get some sleep.
916
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:49,992
I can't believe a freaking case settlement
could shut this up.
917
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,199
Have you read
their confidentiality agreements?
918
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,673
You've uncovered a threat to the public.
This goes beyond lawyering.
919
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,911
That's...
That's all I know is lawyering.
920
01:04:04,119 --> 01:04:06,840
Fine. Then be the lawyer.
921
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,798
You know DuPont better than anyone.
What haven't they thought of?
922
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,039
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. What is that?
923
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:16,157
A memo and 136 exhibits.
924
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,797
Wilbur, Sandra, this is your copy.
925
01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:13,757
The EPA announced a public hearing
926
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,480
into this family of chemicals
I've been looking into?
927
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:17,880
I heard about it from Tucker.
928
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,315
- "Monsanto" Tucker?
- Union Carbide now.
929
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,311
He says to me,
"Is it true that a Taft lawyer
930
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,576
sent a phone book's worth
of confidential DuPont documents
931
01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:26,496
- to the entire federal government?"
- Internal documents.
932
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:28,193
Not... Not confidential.
933
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,615
- Very different.
- So you're testifying?
934
01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:31,791
I signed up to testify,
and the next thing I hear is
935
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,760
DuPont has petitioned a judge
to stop me from testifying,
936
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,036
from flying to D.C.,
from even picking up the phone...
937
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:39,735
- They filed for a gag order.
- Yes.
938
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,815
- This is what we're up against.
- Jesus.
939
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,175
- David.
- I mean, come on, Tom.
940
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:44,416
- What do you expect?
- Where do we stand?
941
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,559
Well, the judge rejected the gag order,
so I fly out Monday.
942
01:06:48,639 --> 01:06:49,675
Nice.
943
01:06:50,199 --> 01:06:51,998
I guess we'll just watch on C-SPAN.
944
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,954
You ever do anything like this again,
945
01:06:56,039 --> 01:06:58,838
I will cut your balls off
and serve them to DuPont myself.
946
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:01,195
Now get out of here.
947
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,668
Good luck in Washington.
948
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:08,190
Thanks, Tom.
949
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:14,278
This material, uh,
is a perfluoro, or a PFOA.
950
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:18,155
It's also known as FC-143...
951
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,512
ammonium perfluorooctanoate.
952
01:07:22,639 --> 01:07:27,635
It has been shown
by DuPont's own science
953
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,233
that PFOA/C-8...
954
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:35,639
is possibly life-threatening
to human health.
955
01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:40,751
We are asking this agency to do something.
956
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,715
...presidential election in four decades.
957
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,871
Just look at these latest polls
this morning...
958
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,679
Did you forget
to pay the water bill?
959
01:08:09,519 --> 01:08:10,556
What?
960
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,518
You forget to pay the water bill?
961
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:15,559
No.
962
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,880
We got a notice.
963
01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:19,680
What's it say?
964
01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:24,869
Uh, "PFOA is a persistent chemical
965
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,634
that is slow to be eliminated
from the bloodstream
966
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,871
of people who have been exposed to it.
967
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,913
The DuPont Company has advised
the Lubeck Water District
968
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,471
that low concentrations have been found
in the district's wells.
969
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,792
DuPont has advised the district that
it is confident these levels are safe."
970
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:45,992
What the hell does that mean?
971
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,591
A letter came last fall.
972
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:52,675
Made no sense to me,
so I started making calls.
973
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,990
I told Joe,
"Don't kick that hornet's nest."
974
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,074
It's not like we didn't know
what we'd signed up for.
975
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:00,710
What do you mean?
976
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:06,429
Oh, I was married before Joe,
um, to a chemist at DuPont.
977
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,637
Dream job. Paid real well.
And the perks.
978
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,518
Presents for no reason.
979
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,512
We'd get this catalog.
Just pick whatever you want.
980
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,154
And little stuff.
981
01:09:17,239 --> 01:09:20,358
Like he'd bring home this soap,
this miracle powder.
982
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,591
You put it in the washing machine
or the dishwasher.
983
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,680
Just wipes stuff clean
like you would not believe.
984
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,958
One day, he comes home and says,
"Can't bring that stuff home no more."
985
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:31,712
"Why?" Won't tell me.
986
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:34,230
Then he'd get sick for weeks.
987
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:36,992
The Teflon flu, the guys would call it.
988
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,752
We knew something wasn't right.
989
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,399
But this house, we bought it
990
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,948
just by showing the bank
my husband's DuPont ID.
991
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,877
Put both our kids through college.
Engineers.
992
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,069
In this town,
that doesn't come without a price.
993
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,796
My brother Kenny didn't know that price.
994
01:09:57,359 --> 01:09:59,158
He joined DuPont at 19.
995
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,149
Died on the operating table
two years later.
996
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:03,594
Ulcerative colitis.
997
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,199
Just like Dan Schiller had.
998
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:06,828
Who's Dan?
999
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,389
A chemist at DuPont.
Worked with my ex-husband.
1000
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:12,958
And, uh, Roger, what's his name?
1001
01:10:13,039 --> 01:10:14,279
Wilkins, the foreman.
1002
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,710
Steven Gellar.
1003
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:16,836
Randy Field.
1004
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,275
Randy's was kidney cancer.
He survived.
1005
01:10:19,399 --> 01:10:21,960
- Yeah, his wife didn't.
- No, June's was thyroid.
1006
01:10:22,039 --> 01:10:23,712
And it was supposed to be treatable.
1007
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,519
Hmm. They didn't catch it in time.
1008
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,716
But they caught it in their son.
1009
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,953
Were your children born, uh, healthy?
1010
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:34,117
- Yes. Yes, they were.
- Good.
1011
01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:39,229
But... we wanted a third and couldn't.
I went to my doctor.
1012
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,319
He says, "You need a hysterectomy.
You need it right away."
1013
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:46,914
- I'm so sorry.
- Bad luck, I guess.
1014
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:49,869
I was 36.
1015
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,872
Mr. Kiger, do you think
I could get a copy of that letter?
1016
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,720
What's wrong with your hand?
1017
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,194
Nothing. It's fine.
1018
01:11:17,159 --> 01:11:18,640
Whoa. Rob?
1019
01:11:21,079 --> 01:11:22,760
Rob, what are you doing?
1020
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,908
I mean, it's not enough
to poison these people?
1021
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,198
- They got to swindle them, too?
- Okay, calm down. All right?
1022
01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:32,748
DuPont wrote that letter,
not the water authority.
1023
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,876
How do you know that?
1024
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,680
You think I don't know
what a DuPont letter looks like by now?
1025
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:37,909
Okay. Okay.
1026
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:41,438
I mean, Jesus! It's evil, Sarah.
1027
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,431
It's fucking evil.
1028
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,078
What's "fack"?
1029
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,637
Perfect. It's nothing, sweetie.
It's nothing. Oh, boy.
1030
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:50,948
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, honey.
1031
01:11:51,039 --> 01:11:52,895
Can you give Charlie
the bottle, please?
1032
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,310
- Where's his bottle?
- It's in the bag. Here.
1033
01:11:55,399 --> 01:11:57,676
- What is all this?
- It's from Grammer's.
1034
01:11:58,159 --> 01:11:59,680
Left in her mailbox.
1035
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,159
"Medical claims,
now and forever"?
1036
01:12:02,199 --> 01:12:03,235
Here, bud.
1037
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:05,390
"Now and forever." Is that the... that...
1038
01:12:06,319 --> 01:12:07,520
Medical monitoring, is that...
1039
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,600
I thought you said
that wasn't gonna pass.
1040
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:15,716
Morning.
1041
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:17,159
Morning, guys.
1042
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,118
Our lead plaintiff is Mr. Joe Kiger.
1043
01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:30,476
Potential plaintiff,
if the partnership approves.
1044
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,838
Mr. Joe Kiger, a phys ed teacher
from Parkersburg, West Virginia,
1045
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,752
on behalf of the 70,000 local residents
1046
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:44,153
whose water DuPont knowingly poisoned
for the last 40 years.
1047
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:46,550
- A class action?
- Let him finish.
1048
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,155
The Kigers were notified
by their local water company
1049
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:55,634
that DuPont had found small concentrations
of C-8 in their water supply,
1050
01:12:55,720 --> 01:13:00,636
but not to worry
because those concentrations were safe.
1051
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,439
Why? Because DuPont said so.
1052
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,070
This is what DuPont considers safe.
1053
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:15,350
That's something like one drop of water
in an Olympic-size swimming pool.
1054
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,912
In other words, even a trace of C-8
renders water unsafe.
1055
01:13:20,039 --> 01:13:22,395
But DuPont told the local water authority,
1056
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,597
"Don't worry.
Your wells have got even less than that."
1057
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,716
- Except that was a lie.
- A lie?
1058
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,880
Yes. DuPont has been secretly testing
these wells for decades.
1059
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,918
They knew they had contaminated
those wells
1060
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,720
up to six times that level.
1061
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,634
And thanks to the Tennant case,
now we know, too.
1062
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,279
Hold on. This stuff is unregulated, right?
1063
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:44,918
I mean, as far as EPA's concerned,
1064
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,275
- it might as well be rose petals.
- Yeah.
1065
01:13:47,399 --> 01:13:50,676
The EPA hasn't set a standard,
that's true, but DuPont did.
1066
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,274
And all the law requires
to win a case like this
1067
01:13:54,359 --> 01:13:59,310
is to show that DuPont exceeded
what DuPont itself considers safe.
1068
01:13:59,399 --> 01:14:00,435
Self-regulation.
1069
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:01,895
If what you're saying
is right...
1070
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,520
- It is right.
- ...then why would DuPont
1071
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,114
tell this water district anything at all?
1072
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:09,750
Seems to me that they're being
a good corporate citizen here.
1073
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,759
That's how long you have to file suit.
1074
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:17,119
One year from the moment you realize
your water's been contaminated.
1075
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,753
This letter looks like it's telling people
their water is safe.
1076
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,912
In fact, it's notifying them
that it isn't.
1077
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,560
- DuPont has started the clock.
- Smart.
1078
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,399
We would've counseled that.
1079
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,599
It was sent 11 months ago,
the moment they realized we knew.
1080
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:37,430
In 30 days, they're home free.
1081
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,832
So that's the proposed case in brief.
But there's something else to consider.
1082
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,149
You think?
1083
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,655
Rob.
1084
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,957
C-8 bioaccumulates.
It builds up inside of us.
1085
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:50,713
Some class members who aren't sick today
1086
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,015
will get sick tomorrow.
1087
01:14:53,039 --> 01:14:55,918
We need a way to protect them
into the future.
1088
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,216
Jesus, Tom, if you're even thinking
about using medical monitoring...
1089
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:00,310
Hold on. Hold on.
1090
01:15:00,399 --> 01:15:04,917
Medical monitoring is a claim
now permitted in West Virginia courts.
1091
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,296
Oh, come on.
1092
01:15:06,319 --> 01:15:07,355
Let's hear him out.
1093
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,917
It says if a company exposes a community
to something that makes them sick,
1094
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,118
they must monitor the health
of that community indefinitely.
1095
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:16,359
Everybody get that?
1096
01:15:16,399 --> 01:15:19,198
You're creating liability
from mere exposure.
1097
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:20,998
It's also unprecedented.
1098
01:15:21,119 --> 01:15:23,237
Exactly. Which is why,
not six months ago,
1099
01:15:23,319 --> 01:15:26,358
- we fought tooth and nail against it.
- And you lost.
1100
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,557
Our clients have the right
to avail themselves of the law.
1101
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,756
Potential clients.
1102
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:37,878
Uh, okay. Um...
1103
01:15:38,199 --> 01:15:41,271
I know you, Rob.
I know your passion.
1104
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,599
Uh, you... you got a great settlement
for your farmer.
1105
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:45,800
You should be proud of that.
1106
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,315
Uh, and perhaps,
as the newest partner at this table,
1107
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,033
I should be more circumspect.
1108
01:15:52,119 --> 01:15:59,118
But, uh, what he's proposing here
is nothing less than a shakedown
1109
01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:02,233
- of an iconic American company.
- We do not represent DuPont.
1110
01:16:02,319 --> 01:16:04,277
No, you don't represent anyone.
1111
01:16:06,039 --> 01:16:07,792
Is this what we have become?
1112
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,679
Plaintiff's attorneys? Ambulance chasers?
1113
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,655
I mean, why don't you just admit it?
Rob, you want to flip.
1114
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:17,197
You want to take everything that you know
about how chemical companies operate
1115
01:16:17,279 --> 01:16:19,875
and turn it against DuPont,
like an informant.
1116
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,216
- That's enough.
- Isn't that right?
1117
01:16:21,239 --> 01:16:22,496
- Okay.
- Isn't that right?
1118
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,920
- Isn't that right?
- Yes.
1119
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,837
Okay, then I say we take a vote
1120
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,708
and determine whether or not
we continue in the tradition
1121
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,376
that has distinguished this firm
from everyone else in the industry...
1122
01:16:34,399 --> 01:16:38,154
Okay, I'm running this meeting.
Okay? You got that?
1123
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,994
Has anyone even read
the evidence this man has collected?
1124
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,511
The willful negligence? The corruption?
1125
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:48,199
Read it.
1126
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,235
And then tell me
we should be sitting on our asses.
1127
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,399
That's the reason
1128
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,436
why Americans hate lawyers.
1129
01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:58,960
This is the crap that fuels
the Ralph Naders of the world.
1130
01:16:59,399 --> 01:17:01,960
We should want to nail DuPont.
1131
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:04,109
All of us should.
1132
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,877
American business
is better than this, gentlemen.
1133
01:17:07,359 --> 01:17:09,670
And when it's not,
we should hold them to it.
1134
01:17:10,079 --> 01:17:11,957
That's how you build faith in the system.
1135
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,234
We're always arguing
that companies are people.
1136
01:17:17,399 --> 01:17:20,676
Well, these people have crossed the line!
1137
01:17:22,039 --> 01:17:23,554
To hell with them!
1138
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:28,708
It may come as a surprise
1139
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,634
to corporate defense types
like yourselves,
1140
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,800
but there's more to the law
1141
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,395
than just flooding
the other side in papers.
1142
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,631
From where I sit,
you have to touch people.
1143
01:17:39,039 --> 01:17:41,430
You know, these girls,
they handle the calls
1144
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,511
from the class action members.
1145
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,114
And there's thousands of 'em
on any given case.
1146
01:17:46,199 --> 01:17:49,988
And it's here that we come
to know their pain.
1147
01:17:50,079 --> 01:17:51,274
Isn't that right, Hazel?
1148
01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:53,239
Yes.
1149
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:58,157
We hear it every day, and it's my job
to make a jury feel that pain,
1150
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:00,630
not out of pity, but out of fear.
1151
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:03,668
Whatever it is
that happened to my client,
1152
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:08,038
that juror has to think,
"That could happen to me."
1153
01:18:08,159 --> 01:18:09,560
You just keep hammering it.
1154
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,916
One part per billion,
one part per billion.
1155
01:18:12,039 --> 01:18:14,190
It's their own documents,
their own scientists.
1156
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:15,555
- Absolutely.
- All right?
1157
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,949
They set that standard.
They have to live with it.
1158
01:18:18,039 --> 01:18:20,395
Yeah, I think we can relax,
Rob, though.
1159
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,518
There's no way they're gonna
prevail with a motion to dismiss.
1160
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:24,875
This is procedural.
1161
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,358
It's nonsense. We'll get a trial today.
1162
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,815
Okay, I'll catch you guys in there.
1163
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:31,909
I'm gonna get a drink.
1164
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,029
I wouldn't drink that.
1165
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:41,836
Earl.
1166
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,149
How you doing?
1167
01:18:46,079 --> 01:18:47,434
Still here.
1168
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:50,439
That's something, right?
1169
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,399
Yes, that... that's something.
1170
01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:55,635
It's good to see you, Rob.
1171
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:00,635
Can't let 'em...
1172
01:19:02,119 --> 01:19:03,314
shut you down.
1173
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,869
Oh, I... I won't. I... I promise.
1174
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,033
Whole world...
1175
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:12,829
needs to know.
1176
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:16,670
They will, Earl.
1177
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:18,750
They will.
1178
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:22,118
Hey, Rob? It's time.
1179
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:26,960
I... I have to go.
1180
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,935
We are here on defendant's motion
1181
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,997
- to dismiss the case...
- Hey, Joe. How are you?
1182
01:19:47,079 --> 01:19:49,230
...brought by Mr. Kiger, et al.
1183
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:51,833
Now...
1184
01:19:52,119 --> 01:19:54,350
...which one of you is Mr. Wallace?
1185
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,432
Edward Wallace, Your Honor,
1186
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,029
on behalf of E.I. du Pont de Nemours
and Company,
1187
01:19:59,119 --> 01:20:00,600
better known as DuPont.
1188
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,238
Yes, I've heard of it.
1189
01:20:02,319 --> 01:20:03,958
- Your motion.
- Thank you.
1190
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,993
Your Honor, we're here today
because of a uniquely American invention:
1191
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:10,676
Teflon.
1192
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:13,795
Since 1961,
Teflon has liberated housewives...
1193
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:14,916
No, no, no, no, no, no.
1194
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,912
Oh, uh, excuse me.
Homemakers throughout...
1195
01:20:17,039 --> 01:20:21,113
This is a courtroom, Mr. Wallace,
not the Home Shopping Network.
1196
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:25,675
Plaintiffs have alleged
that DuPont did not meet
1197
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,456
- its own standard of safety...
- She's good, huh? She's good.
1198
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,155
...with regard to the level of C-8
in the local water supply.
1199
01:20:31,239 --> 01:20:33,435
- Okay.
- That's irrelevant, Your Honor.
1200
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:37,631
We ask you to dismiss on grounds
that the only standard that matters
1201
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,599
is the one that
elected government deems safe.
1202
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,615
- Not if it's unregulated.
- It's government's job
1203
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,359
to make these determinations,
not any one company.
1204
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:46,975
- That's a trap.
- They can't revert back to...
1205
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,115
I got it.
1206
01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:49,953
Is there a problem, Mr. Deitzler?
1207
01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:53,636
Apologies, Your Honor,
but DuPont has been hiding
1208
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,953
the dangers of this chemical
from the government for a while now.
1209
01:20:58,079 --> 01:21:00,355
And they're asking you
to let 'em off the hook
1210
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,908
because they've succeeded
in their strategy.
1211
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,797
Government doesn't regulate C-8.
1212
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,176
Uh, actually, that's not true.
1213
01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:07,429
- Oh?
- No, no.
1214
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,195
The West Virginia's C-8 Working Group
has just issued a standard.
1215
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,997
Here with us today is the governmental
official who led that effort,
1216
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:16,755
Dr. Mary-Sue Kimball.
1217
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,752
And, Dr. Kimball, uh, as a senior member
1218
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,435
of the state's Department
of Environmental Protection,
1219
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,751
isn't it, in fact, your duty to protect
1220
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,760
- the citizens of West Virginia...
- Mr. Wallace.
1221
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:30,555
I'll cut to the chase.
1222
01:21:32,279 --> 01:21:34,396
What is the level of C-8 in drinking water
1223
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:38,109
that the state of West Virginia
has determined to be completely safe?
1224
01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:39,695
Watch it go
from one part per billion to...
1225
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:40,720
- Five?
- Ten?
1226
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,712
150 parts per billion.
1227
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,775
- Welcome to West Virginia.
- The levels found in the wells
1228
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,599
of all six water districts
represented in this suit,
1229
01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:52,755
do they fall below this maximum level?
1230
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:53,840
Well below.
1231
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:55,680
Nothing else, Your Honor.
1232
01:21:57,119 --> 01:21:58,759
Your witness, Mr. Deitzler.
1233
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,319
Wait, who's on the working group?
1234
01:22:00,399 --> 01:22:01,720
DuPont, of course, and who else?
1235
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,336
- Who did the water testing?
- Mr. Deitzler?
1236
01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:04,920
- When was it done?
- One moment, Judge.
1237
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,069
What was the sample size?
1238
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:07,655
Yeah, I mean, we should be able to see...
1239
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,671
- Going once.
- Good job. Good job.
1240
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:11,309
Going twice.
1241
01:22:11,399 --> 01:22:13,231
Dr. Kimball...
1242
01:22:13,319 --> 01:22:17,074
who were the members of this cabal
you call the C-8 Working Group?
1243
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:18,270
Objection.
1244
01:22:19,119 --> 01:22:20,520
Cool it, Mr. Deitzler.
1245
01:22:22,119 --> 01:22:23,759
Go ahead, Dr. Kimball.
1246
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,470
Agency officials, representatives
of the scientific community,
1247
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:28,993
um, stakeholders.
1248
01:22:29,079 --> 01:22:30,832
Stakeholders? Which stakeholders?
1249
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,277
Oh, wait. Let me guess.
It rhymes with "bouffant."
1250
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,476
DuPont is a stakeholder, yes.
1251
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:38,560
So, I see.
1252
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:43,152
So, don't you find it peculiar
that on the eve of a class action lawsuit
1253
01:22:43,239 --> 01:22:49,395
where DuPont might be considered liable
for poisoning this community,
1254
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,756
they get you to come in here suddenly
1255
01:22:52,359 --> 01:22:56,559
and reverse decades
of their so-called heralded science?
1256
01:22:57,199 --> 01:22:59,395
That's false. I don't work for DuPont.
1257
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:00,550
I didn't say you did.
1258
01:23:01,399 --> 01:23:03,479
But now you bring it up,
we'll check back in a month.
1259
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:04,775
- Your Honor...
- Were you honestly
1260
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:10,113
gonna plan on telling this community
that they can drink 150 times more C-8?
1261
01:23:10,199 --> 01:23:12,136
I mean, "Come on, people. Bottoms up."
That kind of thing?
1262
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:15,118
- Honestly, Judge, this is not...
- All right, Mr. Deitzler. Enough.
1263
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,149
We'll be unveiling the new standard
at an upcoming public hearing.
1264
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:23,198
"Unveiling."
Whoa, that sounds like a party.
1265
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:25,000
We'll be there!
1266
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,230
Their safety standards thing,
that's all a sham.
1267
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,555
Thanks to the judge's decision,
we will have our day in court.
1268
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:38,775
Yes, we will!
1269
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,314
Because if the state of West Virginia
1270
01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:45,632
won't stop the DuPont corporation
from literally poisoning its citizens,
1271
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,679
then we, the citizens,
will stop them ourselves.
1272
01:23:51,159 --> 01:23:53,550
Good evening, and welcome to 20/20.
1273
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,872
Well, it coats the pots you cook with
so the food doesn't stick,
1274
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,078
it protects the carpet
your baby crawls on...
1275
01:24:01,159 --> 01:24:02,279
I miss carpet.
1276
01:24:02,359 --> 01:24:05,194
...winterjacket, your skin lotion,
even your makeup.
1277
01:24:05,279 --> 01:24:07,192
We're talking about Teflon.
1278
01:24:07,279 --> 01:24:10,318
And tonight,
our 20/20 investigation uncovers
1279
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:14,229
alarming information
about this much-used material.
1280
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,109
It is very alarming, Barbara.
I cook with Teflon.
1281
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:20,318
I didn't know until I watched
this report that you're about to see
1282
01:24:20,399 --> 01:24:22,153
that if Teflon gets hot enough...
1283
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:25,438
...millions ofpeople have in their homes.
Teflon has become such a familiar...
1284
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,671
...a substance that is also used
in clothing, cars, even in contact lenses.
1285
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,514
...already found in the blood
ofmost Americans.
1286
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:32,920
Now scientists are saying...
1287
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,319
PFOA...
1288
01:24:34,399 --> 01:24:38,394
...millions of homes across Australia.
Teflon, a nonstick surface...
1289
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,199
The Environmental
Protection Agency this morning
1290
01:24:41,279 --> 01:24:45,399
announced it has opened a priority review
of the chemical C-8,
1291
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,119
currently the subject
of a class action lawsuit
1292
01:24:48,199 --> 01:24:50,237
against the chemical giant DuPont.
1293
01:24:50,319 --> 01:24:51,319
Joe!
1294
01:24:53,119 --> 01:24:54,119
Joe!
1295
01:24:54,199 --> 01:24:56,032
Oh, my Lord. Joe, just wait!
1296
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,949
Wait for the fire department,
please, honey!
1297
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:01,416
Please don't go crazy!
1298
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,015
...have triggered a mass panic
among Chinese consumers.
1299
01:25:04,039 --> 01:25:06,775
Should you throw away
your nonstick pans? Many experts say...
1300
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,032
Are your pans making you sick?
That's the question being asked...
1301
01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:13,556
...returns of kitchen implements
coated in Teflon.
1302
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,599
The house was empty.
It belongs to my father.
1303
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:19,634
I don't know how it could've started.
1304
01:25:20,119 --> 01:25:21,474
His name Kiger?
1305
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:25,078
Think someone
might have got the wrong house?
1306
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,395
All of this hullabaloo is just silly.
1307
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,078
Teflon is completely safe for cooking.
1308
01:25:41,159 --> 01:25:43,833
That is why we founded
the Cook Healthy campaign
1309
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,354
to set the record straight.
1310
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:50,590
And besides being completely safe,
it is also...
1311
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:58,880
Copy that.
1312
01:26:02,039 --> 01:26:03,076
All the way down.
1313
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,274
We are now on the record.
1314
01:27:09,359 --> 01:27:13,274
This is the videotaped deposition
of Charles O. Holliday, Jr.,
1315
01:27:13,359 --> 01:27:16,273
taken by the plaintiffs
in the matter of Kiger et al.
1316
01:27:16,359 --> 01:27:19,319
versus E.I. du Pont de Nemours
and Company.
1317
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:20,869
Raise your right hand.
1318
01:27:22,119 --> 01:27:24,760
Do you swear to tell the whole truth
and nothing but the truth?
1319
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:25,840
I do.
1320
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,038
Uh, please state your name.
1321
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:31,640
Charles O. Holliday, Jr.
1322
01:27:32,359 --> 01:27:35,238
And are you presently employed?
1323
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:37,796
Yes.
1324
01:27:38,279 --> 01:27:39,918
What is your position?
1325
01:27:41,239 --> 01:27:44,073
I'm the chairman and chief executive
officer of the DuPont Company.
1326
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,796
In DuPont's most recent filing
1327
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,917
with the Securities
and Exchange Commission,
1328
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:51,873
you state, quote,
1329
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,953
"Based on over 50 years
of industry experience
1330
01:27:55,079 --> 01:27:57,390
and extensive scientific study,
1331
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,676
DuPont believes there is no evidence
1332
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:04,038
that PFOA causes
any adverse human health effects
1333
01:28:04,119 --> 01:28:05,600
or harms the environment."
1334
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,155
You signed that legal filing, correct?
1335
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:10,760
I don't recall the exact statement,
but that sounds right to me.
1336
01:28:11,119 --> 01:28:15,000
Are you aware that DuPont has,
in its own files,
1337
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:19,711
studies dating back to the 1970s
that say just the opposite?
1338
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,393
That PFOA... or C-8, as it's called...
1339
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,597
has potentially life-threatening effects
on human health?
1340
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,592
I'm not familiar with the exact studies
we may have in our files.
1341
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,592
Then I'll take you through them.
Uh, exhibit nine.
1342
01:28:38,359 --> 01:28:41,273
Uh, you were just handed exhibit nine.
1343
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:46,313
- Uh, you see the date March 13, 1979?
- Yes.
1344
01:28:46,399 --> 01:28:48,551
- You see the DuPont logo at the top?
- Yes.
1345
01:28:49,119 --> 01:28:51,680
Do you see this word here,
highlighted?
1346
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:52,760
Yes.
1347
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,514
- Would you read it for me, please?
- "Receptors."
1348
01:28:56,359 --> 01:28:59,557
Do you know what that word refers to,
"receptors"?
1349
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,474
Um, in this context, I do not.
1350
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,233
It means human beings.
1351
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,712
DuPont refers to the men and women
1352
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:11,157
that your company exposed to C-8
as "receptors."
1353
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:16,396
And in these receptors,
your scientists found, quote,
1354
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,759
"significantly higher incidents
of allergic, endocrine
1355
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,752
and metabolic disorders," end quote.
1356
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:27,391
As well as, quote,
"excess risk of developing liver disease."
1357
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:28,833
- Do you see that?
- Yes.
1358
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:34,033
Moreover, you have infertility at Teflon.
1359
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:39,197
Occurrences of leukemia.
You have excess of cancers.
1360
01:29:39,279 --> 01:29:42,113
Bladder, kidney, oral, pharynx.
Next paragraph.
1361
01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:43,429
Seventy-eight.
1362
01:29:44,079 --> 01:29:45,274
You see that heading?
1363
01:29:45,399 --> 01:29:46,695
You see that date? Do you see that?
1364
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,189
Exhibit 96. Exhibit 53.
1365
01:29:49,319 --> 01:29:51,118
I'd like to move on to birth defects.
1366
01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:52,713
We've gone almost seven hours.
1367
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,599
Mr. Holliday, you're aware that in 1981,
1368
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,515
3M notified DuPont
that it had conducted studies on rats
1369
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,877
and these studies showed
that sustained C-8 exposure
1370
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,832
can cause facial deformities?
1371
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,712
I'm not aware of a study by 3M.
1372
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,873
How about DuPont's own studies
that showed the same thing in humans?
1373
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,189
That's DuPont's pregnancy study from 1981.
1374
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,055
Does that look like
a DuPont document to you?
1375
01:30:20,079 --> 01:30:21,079
It looks to be.
1376
01:30:23,319 --> 01:30:28,872
Are you aware that DuPont has denied
that any such study ever even took place?
1377
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,515
I'm not familiar with specific statements
we've made about that.
1378
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,636
Seven pregnant women,
1379
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,872
all DuPont employees,
all from the Teflon line.
1380
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:41,560
Do you see this here?
1381
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:48,037
Quote, "Child, four months,
one nostril, eye defect," end quote.
1382
01:30:48,119 --> 01:30:49,189
Yes.
1383
01:30:49,279 --> 01:30:53,069
Two of the seven women, nearly 30%,
gave birth to babies
1384
01:30:53,159 --> 01:30:57,313
that had the exact facial deformities
that your company already knew about.
1385
01:30:57,399 --> 01:30:58,435
We're done here.
1386
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:01,840
Sir.
1387
01:31:03,319 --> 01:31:05,152
His parents named him Bucky.
1388
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:09,840
Bucky Bailey.
1389
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:14,118
This is your receptor.
1390
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:23,876
Now we're done.
1391
01:33:01,399 --> 01:33:03,311
The Environmental Protection Agency
1392
01:33:03,399 --> 01:33:06,313
has levied the largest fine
in agency history
1393
01:33:06,399 --> 01:33:08,516
against the chemical giant DuPont.
1394
01:33:09,399 --> 01:33:14,110
The EPA concluded the company failed
to report the health dangers of C-8
1395
01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:16,555
used in the manufacture of Teflon.
1396
01:33:17,079 --> 01:33:20,835
DuPont will pay the EPA $16. 5 million.
1397
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:26,029
It earns a billion dollars in profits
from Teflon each year.
1398
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:37,712
To recap, we've agreed that
DuPont will clean local water supplies,
1399
01:33:38,359 --> 01:33:41,273
installing filtration systems
in all six water districts.
1400
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,350
Additionally, DuPont will pay
$70 million in cash to the class.
1401
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,636
Three days' revenue on the Teflon line.
1402
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,957
Which leaves our most challenging issue:
1403
01:33:52,039 --> 01:33:53,189
medical monitoring.
1404
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,110
We've agreed to establish
an independent science panel
1405
01:33:57,199 --> 01:34:01,159
comprised of three scientists
who have no relationship to either side.
1406
01:34:02,359 --> 01:34:05,796
This independent panel
will study the members of this class
1407
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,314
to determine whether C-8 exposure
1408
01:34:08,399 --> 01:34:11,393
has led to increased incidents
of disease in this region.
1409
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,472
If the panel finds that
there are probable scientific links
1410
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,039
to a particular disease,
1411
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:21,435
the health of everyone in the class
will be monitored for that disease,
1412
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:25,957
in perpetuity,
at DuPont's cost, up to $235 million.
1413
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,319
And any class member
who develops that disease
1414
01:34:29,399 --> 01:34:31,551
can sue DuPont for damages.
1415
01:34:33,039 --> 01:34:38,274
However, if the science panel fails
to establish probable scientific links...
1416
01:34:39,359 --> 01:34:40,430
then this case is over.
1417
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,354
No monitoring,
no lawsuits, no exceptions.
1418
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,912
Good. Well, gentlemen, you are
now officially in the hands of science.
1419
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,359
Well...
1420
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:54,029
Wouldn't have pegged you
as a mai tai guy.
1421
01:34:55,119 --> 01:34:56,119
It's festive.
1422
01:34:56,199 --> 01:34:57,735
Wouldn't have pegged you
for that, either.
1423
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,557
We have something
to celebrate.
1424
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:01,189
- Yeah?
- Do we?
1425
01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:06,350
Look, how do we know
that the panel is gonna prove
1426
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,792
that DuPont made all these people sick?
1427
01:35:10,199 --> 01:35:11,235
I'm no scientist,
1428
01:35:11,319 --> 01:35:14,313
but even I know you'd need
huge amounts of medical data,
1429
01:35:14,399 --> 01:35:17,518
not to mention
thousands of blood samples and...
1430
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,556
From people who don't trust us.
1431
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,916
"Hey, folks, we want to stick you
with some needles.
1432
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,069
You won't mind, will you?"
1433
01:35:23,159 --> 01:35:26,278
I mean, I know these people.
1434
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,591
They're gonna take the money and run.
Wouldn't you?
1435
01:35:31,319 --> 01:35:33,551
I think they want more
than just the money.
1436
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:35,791
I... I think they...
1437
01:35:37,039 --> 01:35:39,635
they want to know
if they're gonna get sick or not.
1438
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,234
Or if they have C-8 in their blood
1439
01:35:41,319 --> 01:35:44,313
and what that's gonna do
to them and their families.
1440
01:35:44,399 --> 01:35:48,917
So, we're just gonna trust
that they show up, huh?
1441
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,639
Trust but verify.
1442
01:35:51,239 --> 01:35:52,355
What does that mean, Rob?
1443
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,194
Well, come in for an exam.
1444
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:02,432
Um... give us a blood sample.
Then we'll give you your check.
1445
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,997
- On second thought, make mine a mai tai.
- All around, please.
1446
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,471
- Rob Bilott.
- Yeah.
1447
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,869
Where'd you pull that out of?
1448
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,600
Healthy drinking water
is vital to all of us.
1449
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:18,935
That's why scientists need to know
1450
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,396
if the chemical C-8
causes any health problems.
1451
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:26,189
Starting today, you can help by completing
a health questionnaire and having...
1452
01:36:29,239 --> 01:36:30,720
Ah, come on!
1453
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,055
...medical vans downtown.
1454
01:36:32,079 --> 01:36:34,753
Well, how aboutyou?
Are you gonna get your blood tested?
1455
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,070
Nah. I... I hate needles.
1456
01:36:37,159 --> 01:36:38,719
It's 400 bucks, buddy.
1457
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:40,916
Really?
1458
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,070
Got your attention...
1459
01:36:43,159 --> 01:36:44,514
I don't think I can.
1460
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,072
Okay, okay! All right, all right.
1461
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,472
Yeah, that'll work.
1462
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:18,716
We bring them back here...
1463
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,471
draw the blood and hand them a check.
1464
01:37:23,079 --> 01:37:24,832
- $400.
- Each.
1465
01:37:25,359 --> 01:37:26,510
Lots of money around here.
1466
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,176
How many you brought
with you today, Miss LuAnn?
1467
01:37:29,199 --> 01:37:31,475
My husband and my three kids and me.
1468
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,118
- $2,000.
- Yeah.
1469
01:37:33,239 --> 01:37:34,720
Not too shabby
right before Christmas.
1470
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,314
Yep.
1471
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,632
But you ain't gonna find nothing.
1472
01:37:39,239 --> 01:37:42,198
DuPont's good people. You'll see.
1473
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,536
Gigi, Gigi, Gigi!
1474
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,119
It's your turn
to put the angel on the top.
1475
01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:53,510
- You do it, sweetie. Gigi's too pooped.
- Look at me!
1476
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:55,376
Why don't you get your Uncle Ben
to give you a boost?
1477
01:37:55,399 --> 01:37:56,628
Look!
1478
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:57,836
- Ooh!
- Mom?
1479
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:58,975
- What's up?
- You okay?
1480
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,592
- Can you put... Can you help...
- Yeah.
1481
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,033
Seriously, it's huge.
1482
01:38:02,119 --> 01:38:04,256
They're gonna be making you partner
this year. I know it.
1483
01:38:04,279 --> 01:38:06,317
Well, they'd better. I mean...
1484
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,159
- Mommy, come see this!
- Hey, baby, did you hang that ornament?
1485
01:38:09,239 --> 01:38:10,695
- Rob, can you get that?
- Mm, uh...
1486
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:12,560
- Let me see.
- Okay, I'm coming.
1487
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,756
- Hello?
- Rob, you sitting down for this?
1488
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,150
- Larry, what's wrong?
- 69, 000.
1489
01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:23,594
69,000 what?
1490
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,639
69, 000 people got tested. 69, 000!
1491
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:30,270
You realize how much data this is?
This is what we needed, Rob. This is it.
1492
01:38:30,359 --> 01:38:32,875
- Oh, my God.
- You were right all along, my friend.
1493
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:34,296
- Merry Christmas.
- Thank you.
1494
01:38:34,319 --> 01:38:36,073
- You bet.
- Thank you!
1495
01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:37,229
Talk real soon.
1496
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:41,078
- Hey, who was that?
- You won't believe.
1497
01:38:41,159 --> 01:38:42,832
- Daddy, guess what I just did.
- Yeah?
1498
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,594
- What? What'd you just do?
- I put the angel on the top.
1499
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,238
- Yeah?
- Uncle Ben lifted me.
1500
01:38:47,319 --> 01:38:48,548
He did? Like this?
1501
01:38:50,079 --> 01:38:51,912
Merry Christmas, everyone!
1502
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:53,877
Merry Christmas!
1503
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,917
We are gathered here today
in the memory of Wilbur Earl Tennant.
1504
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,956
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
1505
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,315
He makes me lie down in green pastures.
1506
01:39:20,119 --> 01:39:22,112
He leads me beside still waters.
1507
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:24,952
He restoreth my soul.
1508
01:39:25,039 --> 01:39:27,760
Even though I walk through the valley
of the shadow of death,
1509
01:39:29,039 --> 01:39:30,712
I will fear no evil...
1510
01:40:03,399 --> 01:40:05,095
Quick, everybody.
Mustard or ketchup?
1511
01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:07,350
Teddy, for the tenth time,
that's my ketchup.
1512
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:08,960
Charlie, don't start.
1513
01:40:09,039 --> 01:40:10,479
What? It's mine. I got it.
1514
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,640
- He's got his own, okay?
- You're that lawyer.
1515
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:14,789
Finish up.
1516
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:17,715
My brother's Dale Lamb.
1517
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:20,079
You took his blood, said you'd help him.
1518
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,395
Yeah, I did. We're...
We're working on that. I promise.
1519
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:25,358
He's dead.
1520
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:27,920
Testicular cancer.
1521
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,398
Left three little boys younger than yours.
1522
01:40:38,319 --> 01:40:39,833
But you enjoy your family.
1523
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:44,716
- Okay. Everybody up.
- I'm not finished.
1524
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:45,800
I said up.
1525
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:28,110
Well, Darlene can't even leave the house
without being harassed.
1526
01:41:28,199 --> 01:41:29,496
I know, Joe. I'm...
1527
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,229
First, they blame us for suing DuPont,
1528
01:41:33,319 --> 01:41:36,596
and now they hate on us
'cause they ain't seen nothing from it.
1529
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,114
- I'm sorry, Joe.
- Well, that ain't good enough!
1530
01:41:40,119 --> 01:41:43,556
And they wonder why in the hell
it takes four damn years
1531
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,155
to read a lousy blood sample,
and I don't blame 'em.
1532
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,673
We trusted you, Rob.
We put our faith in you.
1533
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,239
- I know, Joe. I'm so...
- All right?
1534
01:41:53,319 --> 01:41:54,680
I'm so...
1535
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,759
Isn't there just
some kind of a progress report,
1536
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,072
anything that I can share
with these folks?
1537
01:42:06,159 --> 01:42:08,675
I mean, they... they have been waiting.
1538
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,136
I'm sorry, Mr. Bilott.
1539
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:13,994
The panel is still in the process
of analyzing complex data and modeling
1540
01:42:14,079 --> 01:42:16,878
from thousands of samples
and medical histories.
1541
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,429
I'm so sorry.
Could you hold a moment?
1542
01:42:30,319 --> 01:42:31,960
Charlie, don't pick at your food.
1543
01:42:34,199 --> 01:42:35,350
What's a hooker?
1544
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,113
Where did you learn that?
1545
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:41,475
He told me that
Mary Magdalene was a hooker.
1546
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:44,953
What? She was.
1547
01:42:45,039 --> 01:42:46,952
You're supposed to say "prostitute."
1548
01:42:47,039 --> 01:42:49,350
And then she found God
1549
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,079
and became one of Jesus's
most fervent disciples.
1550
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:55,712
See? I was just teaching him the Bible.
1551
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,395
I can't today. So, everybody up.
1552
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:00,278
Everybody up.
1553
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:09,833
Can we still afford it?
1554
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:11,676
What?
1555
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:13,755
Catholic school.
1556
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,712
My brother's back in rehab.
Did you know that?
1557
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:35,916
No. I'm sorry.
1558
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:37,680
Today's...
1559
01:43:39,399 --> 01:43:40,993
Today's Mom's first day at chemo.
1560
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:43,948
I forgot.
1561
01:43:44,039 --> 01:43:45,792
'Cause it's not about your case, Rob.
1562
01:43:46,319 --> 01:43:47,319
Car!
1563
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,039
- Gosh.
- Okay. Jeez.
1564
01:43:55,159 --> 01:43:58,436
Teddy forged my signature,
and Tony's quitting football.
1565
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,751
Tony. But how would you know
about that, right?
1566
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,439
Because all you see, all that you...
1567
01:44:03,239 --> 01:44:06,358
the boys have ever seen
is you obsessing about this...
1568
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:12,395
Have I ever complained?
1569
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,600
Say something, for God's sakes, Rob.
1570
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:20,796
No.
1571
01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:22,554
- No?
- No.
1572
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:23,676
No.
1573
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:29,395
Because I knew that you needed something.
Uh, some connection, something.
1574
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,869
And so, I took it on.
1575
01:44:33,039 --> 01:44:35,395
But if you want to start accounting,
1576
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,631
if you want to start with,
"Oh, can we afford," then...
1577
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:43,600
I don't know, Rob.
1578
01:44:45,199 --> 01:44:48,113
Can the boys afford a father
who can't string two words together?
1579
01:44:48,199 --> 01:44:52,079
Can our marriage afford 13 years of...
13 years of this?
1580
01:44:55,239 --> 01:44:57,197
How about it, Rob?
You want to talk about it?
1581
01:44:57,279 --> 01:44:58,315
About our lives?
1582
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,115
Of course not.
1583
01:45:06,039 --> 01:45:07,554
I'll tell Mom you asked about her.
1584
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:12,960
What in God's name
is that panel doing?
1585
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:14,912
And why are we still getting bills?
1586
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,596
Overhead, uh...
Local counsel. Harry's call center.
1587
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:20,875
A thousand dollars an hour.
1588
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,515
That was a...
That was a technical expert.
1589
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:27,719
We needed to do filings
when DuPont started lobbying Washington...
1590
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,479
That's Washington's problem, not ours.
1591
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:31,095
That's why you got them involved.
Your memo.
1592
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:33,112
It was just a fine, Tom. It's a fine.
1593
01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:36,193
$16 million,
it's nothing for these people.
1594
01:45:36,279 --> 01:45:37,935
- It's pocket change.
- Yes, but if they get charged
1595
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:39,599
with criminal concealment, game over.
1596
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:40,815
You said DOJ was investigating.
1597
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:42,637
- Not anymore.
- What?
1598
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,199
They dropped the investigation.
1599
01:45:44,279 --> 01:45:46,840
- They dropped... What?
- They dropped it. No reason given.
1600
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,917
Tom, our government is captive to DuPont.
1601
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,833
This case, it's the only hope we have.
1602
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:58,576
They know that,
and they're trying to make it
1603
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:02,149
as expensive as they can
to force you to make me stop.
1604
01:46:04,319 --> 01:46:06,198
- Just tell me how much longer.
- Uh...
1605
01:46:07,359 --> 01:46:10,636
I... I can't. I... I wish I could.
1606
01:46:12,279 --> 01:46:13,634
- Tom, I...
- Are you okay?
1607
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,274
Uh, I'm fine. I'm just...
1608
01:46:15,359 --> 01:46:18,113
Rob, I'm a managing partner now.
1609
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,711
- I have a firm to run.
- I know.
1610
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,997
And, Tom, I think there could be
a huge payout here if we can...
1611
01:46:24,079 --> 01:46:25,514
You think I'm in this for money?
1612
01:46:26,199 --> 01:46:27,429
- No, I...
- You think I'm...
1613
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:32,072
I'm letting you drag this firm's
reputation through a meat grinder
1614
01:46:32,159 --> 01:46:33,673
for some kind of plaintiff's payoff?
1615
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,149
I... I don't know
why you're doing... doing it.
1616
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:44,759
Rob, listen, I...
1617
01:46:45,079 --> 01:46:48,198
I'm sorry, but you're gonna
have to take another pay cut.
1618
01:46:48,279 --> 01:46:49,872
Tom, that's my fourth pay cut.
1619
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:51,632
- What am I supposed to do?
- I... I...
1620
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,159
- You don't have any...
- I'm down to a third now.
1621
01:46:54,239 --> 01:46:56,439
You don't have any clients.
No one will take your calls.
1622
01:46:58,199 --> 01:46:59,713
What am I supposed to do here?
1623
01:47:00,039 --> 01:47:02,110
Now, I'm on your side, but...
1624
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,069
Rob? Emmy!
1625
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:07,154
Hey! Emmy!
1626
01:47:07,239 --> 01:47:09,675
- Kathleen! Kathleen!
- Get some help!
1627
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:11,557
- Get some help!
- Rob?
1628
01:47:12,199 --> 01:47:13,350
Rob?
1629
01:47:23,319 --> 01:47:27,997
Looks like we should, uh, cancel
my 4 o'clock with Jerry...
1630
01:47:29,039 --> 01:47:32,590
I don't know.
We're waiting to find out. He was...
1631
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:34,868
Well, uh...
1632
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:39,190
Make sure that, uh,
Jerry knows that, um...
1633
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:41,034
I have to go.
1634
01:47:42,319 --> 01:47:43,673
- Mrs. Bilott?
- Yes.
1635
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:47,037
We think your husband's
most likely experienced a TIA,
1636
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:49,237
a transient ischemic attack.
1637
01:47:49,319 --> 01:47:53,519
Blood is briefly cut off to the brain,
mimicking the symptoms of a stroke.
1638
01:47:54,399 --> 01:47:56,994
Uh, excuse me. A TIA?
1639
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:01,918
This wasn't short.
It kept going on.
1640
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:03,274
What about poison?
1641
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,036
I'm sorry?
1642
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,109
Could someone be poisoning him?
1643
01:48:08,199 --> 01:48:10,953
No, Mrs. Bilott. This is neurological.
1644
01:48:12,079 --> 01:48:13,719
You just said it wasn't a stroke.
1645
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,592
Not this time.
1646
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:17,319
- What does that mean?
- It means that
1647
01:48:17,399 --> 01:48:19,311
he needs to never miss his medication
1648
01:48:19,399 --> 01:48:22,154
and he needs to reduce
all sources of stress in his life.
1649
01:48:23,399 --> 01:48:25,278
He's under enormous pressure at work.
1650
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,037
Well, that needs to change.
1651
01:48:28,119 --> 01:48:31,158
But he's a young man.
He shouldn't be having these incidences.
1652
01:48:32,199 --> 01:48:33,713
He's sedated, but you can see him.
1653
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,756
- Okay.
- I'll check in on him tomorrow.
1654
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,034
Thank you. Thank you.
1655
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,439
Um...
1656
01:48:45,079 --> 01:48:47,878
I'll, uh, give you some privacy.
1657
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:49,000
Uh...
1658
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,599
Anything you need, call me.
1659
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,110
I need you to stop making him
feel like a failure.
1660
01:49:05,159 --> 01:49:09,234
I appreciate the stress
that your family must be going through.
1661
01:49:09,319 --> 01:49:12,313
Please...
don't talk to me like I'm the wife.
1662
01:49:16,359 --> 01:49:19,751
Did Rob ever tell you about,
uh, moving around as a kid?
1663
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,155
- Um, I, uh...
- Ten times before senior year.
1664
01:49:24,239 --> 01:49:29,679
No friends, no ties, no...
Just him, his sister, his folks and...
1665
01:49:31,119 --> 01:49:33,793
Then I came along,
and you came along and, uh...
1666
01:49:36,159 --> 01:49:38,595
Taft... it's not just a job.
1667
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,559
To him, it's... it's home.
1668
01:49:45,159 --> 01:49:50,792
And he was willing to risk all that
for a stranger who needed his help.
1669
01:49:52,199 --> 01:49:57,115
Now, you and I may not know
what that is...
1670
01:49:59,279 --> 01:50:00,680
but it's not failure.
1671
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,314
♪ And you lead me ♪
1672
01:50:26,399 --> 01:50:31,997
♪ In ways everlasting ♪
1673
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:39,792
♪ Lord, you have searched my heart ♪
1674
01:50:40,199 --> 01:50:45,274
♪ And you know when I sit
And when I stand ♪
1675
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,832
♪ Your hand is upon me ♪
1676
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,356
♪ Protecting me from death ♪
1677
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:57,795
♪ Keeping me from harm ♪
1678
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:05,078
♪ Oh, Lord, I know ♪
1679
01:51:05,159 --> 01:51:08,948
♪ You are near ♪
1680
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:14,798
♪ Standing always ♪
1681
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:20,034
♪ At my side ♪
1682
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:26,993
♪ You guard me from the foe... ♪
1683
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,557
Hey, do you know the score?
1684
01:51:49,399 --> 01:51:50,435
The game?
1685
01:51:51,399 --> 01:51:52,720
Sorry, my radio's busted.
1686
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,274
- Sorry.
- Don't worry about it.
1687
01:51:57,359 --> 01:51:58,359
It'll be a surprise.
1688
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,038
Bucky, come on. We'll be late.
1689
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:02,836
Have a good one.
1690
01:53:45,279 --> 01:53:47,680
Hey, Rob. Bill Leary. Uh, we haven't met.
1691
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:49,637
I'm the new comptroller
out of Indianapolis.
1692
01:53:50,239 --> 01:53:52,435
Listen, we need to talk
about your unbilled hours
1693
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:53,873
and these un-reimbursed...
1694
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:11,590
Hello?
1695
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:12,716
Mr. Bilott?
1696
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:14,676
Yes?
1697
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,672
I guess I should start
by apologizing for taking,
1698
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,318
well, seven years to call you.
1699
01:54:20,399 --> 01:54:22,516
- Who is this?
- Oh, yes, of course.
1700
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,114
It's Dr. Karen Frank from the...
1701
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:26,554
Science panel?
1702
01:54:27,159 --> 01:54:30,914
Again, I'm so sorry to have kept you
waiting this long, Mr. Bilott.
1703
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:32,000
Uh...
1704
01:54:32,079 --> 01:54:34,095
- But there was just so much data that...
- Please, uh...
1705
01:54:34,119 --> 01:54:37,318
Doctor, please, can you...
would you just please tell me
1706
01:54:37,399 --> 01:54:41,076
what's happened, what's happening,
what... what you've found out?
1707
01:54:41,159 --> 01:54:44,551
Yes, yes. You gave us
an unprecedented amount of data.
1708
01:54:45,119 --> 01:54:47,953
The largest epidemiological study
in human history.
1709
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:50,359
It's irrefutable.
1710
01:54:50,439 --> 01:54:55,798
We have linked sustained exposure to C-8
to six categories of serious illness.
1711
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,752
Kidney cancer, testicular cancer,
1712
01:55:05,319 --> 01:55:07,788
thyroid disease, preeclampsia,
1713
01:55:08,399 --> 01:55:11,073
high cholesterol, ulcerative colitis.
1714
01:55:12,079 --> 01:55:16,551
3, 535 people in the class
already have these diseases.
1715
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,353
Many more will develop them.
1716
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:24,077
Thanks to you,
the entire class will be monitored,
1717
01:55:24,159 --> 01:55:27,596
and those who get sick
can seek restitution.
1718
01:55:29,039 --> 01:55:30,952
You did a good thing here, Mr. Bilott.
1719
01:55:32,079 --> 01:55:33,149
You did good.
1720
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:36,670
Thank you.
1721
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:23,274
- Oh.
- Thank you.
1722
01:56:26,439 --> 01:56:27,510
Thank you.
1723
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,796
Watch out, now.
Watch your eyes.
1724
01:56:54,279 --> 01:56:55,793
Oh!
1725
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:30,960
Rob?
1726
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:33,600
What happened?
1727
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:38,840
Rob?
1728
01:57:41,439 --> 01:57:42,840
DuPont, they're reneging.
1729
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:46,840
Which part?
1730
01:57:47,359 --> 01:57:48,873
All of it.
1731
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:52,510
They're tearing up our agreement,
rejecting the science panel.
1732
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:56,149
They're gonna...
They're gonna fight every claim in court.
1733
01:57:56,239 --> 01:57:59,551
Thousands of claims.
People, sick people, they'll give up.
1734
01:58:00,319 --> 01:58:02,038
They can't fight DuPont.
1735
01:58:02,119 --> 01:58:04,190
How can they go back on...
1736
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:06,752
- Sarah.
- They can't go back on everything.
1737
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:08,159
They're a titan of industry.
1738
01:58:08,239 --> 01:58:10,680
They can do whatever the hell they want.
Nothing else matters.
1739
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,319
They can fight you all they want.
1740
01:58:12,399 --> 01:58:14,055
It doesn't take away
from what you've done.
1741
01:58:14,079 --> 01:58:15,957
Of course it does.
1742
01:58:16,039 --> 01:58:17,792
That's exactly what it does.
1743
01:58:19,119 --> 01:58:21,350
They want to show the world
it's no use fighting.
1744
01:58:21,439 --> 01:58:24,034
"Look, everybody,
even he can't crack the maze,
1745
01:58:24,119 --> 01:58:25,474
and he helped build it."
1746
01:58:26,439 --> 01:58:28,511
The system is rigged.
1747
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:32,599
They want us to think it'll protect us,
but that's a lie.
1748
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:34,671
We protect us. We do.
1749
01:58:35,159 --> 01:58:36,229
Nobody else.
1750
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,880
Not the companies, not the scientists,
not the government.
1751
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:42,960
Us.
1752
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:49,037
A farmer with a 12th-grade education
told me that.
1753
01:58:51,399 --> 01:58:55,872
On day one, he knew,
and I thought he was crazy.
1754
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:04,229
Isn't that crazy?
1755
01:59:09,199 --> 01:59:10,350
No.
1756
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:18,353
All rise.
1757
02:00:18,479 --> 02:00:21,154
The Honorable Timothy Burg,
United States District Judge
1758
02:00:21,239 --> 02:00:23,231
for the Southern District of Ohio
presiding.
1759
02:00:23,359 --> 02:00:26,033
This court is now in session
pursuant to the adjournment.
1760
02:00:26,119 --> 02:00:27,872
Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye.
1761
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,600
All persons having business
with this honorable court,
1762
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:33,592
draw near, give their attention,
and they shall be heard.
1763
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:36,399
God save the United States
and this honorable court.
1764
02:00:36,479 --> 02:00:38,038
Please be seated.
1765
02:00:38,119 --> 02:00:40,270
And we're here this morning
for a jury trial.
1766
02:00:41,159 --> 02:00:46,029
So... 3,535 claims.
1767
02:00:46,119 --> 02:00:50,478
At a rate of four or five cases a year,
we can all expect to be here till...
1768
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:53,359
well, the year 2890.
1769
02:00:54,079 --> 02:00:55,434
If we're lucky.
1770
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:56,760
Guess we'd better get started.
1771
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,476
Mrs. Johnson, is your attorney present?
1772
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,115
Good morning, Your Honor.
Rob Bilott for the plaintiff.
1773
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:05,752
Oh, still here, huh?
1774
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:07,760
Still here.
1775
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:14,152
♪ Well, I won't back down ♪
1776
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:18,470
♪ No, I won't back down ♪
1777
02:02:19,359 --> 02:02:23,717
♪ You can stand me up
At the gates of hell ♪
1778
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:26,872
♪ But I won't back down ♪
1779
02:02:28,039 --> 02:02:31,430
♪ Gonna stand my ground ♪
1780
02:02:32,119 --> 02:02:35,396
♪ Won't be turned around ♪
1781
02:02:36,239 --> 02:02:40,552
♪ And I'll keep this world
From draggin'me down ♪
1782
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:43,997
♪ Gonna stand my ground ♪
1783
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:48,277
♪ And I won't back down ♪
1784
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:52,632
♪ Hey, baby ♪
1785
02:02:54,279 --> 02:02:56,670
♪ There ain't no easy way out ♪
1786
02:02:58,199 --> 02:03:01,113
♪ Hey, I ♪
1787
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:05,077
♪ Will stand my ground ♪
1788
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:09,277
♪ And I won't back down ♪
1789
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:21,677
♪ Well, I know what's right ♪
1790
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:26,195
♪ I gotjust one life ♪
1791
02:03:27,119 --> 02:03:31,238
♪ In a world that keeps on
Pushin'me around ♪
1792
02:03:31,319 --> 02:03:34,391
♪ But I'll stand my ground ♪
1793
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:38,877
♪ And I won't back down ♪
1794
02:03:40,119 --> 02:03:43,238
♪ Hey, baby ♪
1795
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:47,074
♪ There ain't no easy way out ♪
1796
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:51,559
♪ Hey, I ♪
1797
02:03:52,319 --> 02:03:55,836
♪ Will stand my ground ♪
1798
02:03:56,680 --> 02:04:00,037
♪ And I won't back down ♪
1799
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:04,555
♪ No, I won't back down ♪