1 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,040 Prime Minister Quisling speaks. 2 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,480 Norwegian women and men. 3 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:49,000 A few days ago the message went out out into the world that Adolf Hitler,- 4 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,040 -the leader and chancellor of the German Reich,- 5 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,760 - had found the hero's death at his command post in Berlin- 6 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,880 -during the heroic struggle to prevent the bolshevik destruction- 7 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:03,840 -of his fatherland and of Europe. 8 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,039 With Adolf Hitler is one of them historical figures passed away- 9 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,480 -which creates eras in human history. 10 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:20,080 But if Europe does not go under, then surely the future will acknowledge- 11 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:26,280 -that the European cultural civilization salvation was owed to Adolf Hitler. 12 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,440 As through National Socialism made Germany such a mighty bulwark- 13 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,120 - that it could break the power of the red storm surge. 14 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,920 The great tragedy of his life was that it despite all efforts he did not succeed- 15 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,760 - to create peace between England and Germany. 16 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:52,000 A collaboration that would ensure world- peace and neutralized Bolshevism. 17 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,200 I do not intend to fail our cause. 18 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:01,440 And don't surrender the country either to lawlessness and Bolshevism. 19 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Thanks. 20 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Did you listen? On the speech? 21 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,200 - It sounded like we had capitulated. - In no way. 22 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,640 Berlin is not giving up on us easily. 23 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,800 I am trying to negotiate with Nygaardsvold in London about an interim government. 24 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,640 And if it doesn't work? 25 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,480 I don't want to hear talk about defeat or surrender! 26 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,760 You can do what you want. 27 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,240 You are Kapitan Quisling. 28 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,040 You will succeed. 29 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Hooray! 30 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:03,720 We have 30,000 men under our command, they have 4000. We can still fight. 31 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Vidkun! 32 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,680 I was at the dentist. He stayed barely finished before he drove me here. 33 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,920 He is going to Østbanen. He flees from the country without so much as a suitcase. 34 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,360 My God! You said they wouldn't surrender. 35 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,320 -Don't panic now. -What are they doing here? 36 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,760 You may want to pack a suitcase. Only the essentials. In case... 37 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:31,120 Package? But what about London and the negotiations? 38 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,720 Take it easy, Maria. Please be kind. 39 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Ask the kitchen to prepare some food. This is going to take a while. 40 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,680 And the legendary night that lowers 41 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Lowering the dream on our earth 42 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,080 My God. Now all hell breaks loose. 43 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,080 - We should have left while we could. -What do you mean? 44 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,280 They run around like headless chickens. Screaming. 45 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,400 It was a bunch with full, German naval guests. 46 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,920 They shot wildly around with automatic weapons. 47 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,040 It was so close I emerged unscathed. 48 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,800 - Milorg has not spoken to anyone. - Have we been tricked into a trap? 49 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,600 It seems like there is an internal power struggle between Milorg and the police. 50 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:53,280 - The new national police chief is completely rabid. - The capitulation applies from midnight. 51 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,400 We just heard it on the radio. 52 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,000 In that case, it probably isn't more for us to do. 53 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,080 What nonsense. I'm going down there myself. 54 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,400 I cannot recommend that. 55 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,560 It's dangerous out there. 56 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,240 They shoot. 57 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,000 You can't go anywhere without guarantees of free rent, - 58 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,920 - and I don't think so the police will give you. 59 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,200 There must then be some civilized people again in this country! 60 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:01,120 Yes, good day. Vidkun Quisling, Prime Minister. 61 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Yes. Thank you for that you take your time, Arntzen. 62 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:10,800 No, we will contact you to clarify misunderstandings related to this... 63 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,400 Precisely. 64 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,280 Yes. 65 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Absolutely. 66 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,880 But listen here. We are in dialogue with military authorities. 67 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,680 This can develop into... 68 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,360 No. 69 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,919 I understand that. That you don't know Foss, to be at your expense. 70 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,600 He was actually standing in my living room and offered detention in Holmenkollen. 71 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,200 He was supposed to guarantee… 72 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:43,240 Yes, well. 73 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Yes. 74 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,000 That you call me a criminal, I consider a very... 75 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,240 I have put in so much work for this country. I have no... 76 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,920 No, well. 77 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Yes. 78 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,440 Yes. 79 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Hello? 80 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,040 He gave us a deadline until six o'clock tomorrow morning. 81 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,640 If we refuse? 82 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,600 Then they pick us up by force. 83 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,360 They... 84 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,120 ...picking us up by force. 85 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,920 I heard you, Vidkun, on the phone with the police chief. 86 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,160 It's over. 87 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,600 No, I'm going down to the police station and provide an explanation. 88 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,200 - I have to go. They are waiting. -Stop. 89 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,120 May I have your name, please? 90 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,800 - Where is Chief of Police Arntzen? - Their personnel. 91 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,480 - I demand to speak to Arntzen. - Your hat. Please be kind. 92 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,040 Score? 93 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,920 -What position do you have? - I'm just going to look in your pockets. 94 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,280 Wait a minute. I can... I am not under arrest. 95 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,480 I have made a deal with the chief of police about- 96 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,880 - that I'm going to live in an apartment up in Holmenkollen. 97 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,840 Your wedding ring. 98 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,720 -What? - We need your wedding ring. 99 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:10,400 -No. Is it necessary? -Yes. I have to get it. 100 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Just want to remind you that I have been Norway's head of state for five years. 101 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,640 I expect to be treated with respect and not as a criminal. 102 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,400 This way. 103 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Mr. Olsen, the bishop is ready for you now. 104 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,960 Yes... Sorry. 105 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,920 Thank you. 106 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,920 -Peder Olsen. It was a long time ago. - It was a long time ago. Good day. 107 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,880 I almost have to thank you. Without yours efforts, the war could have become much darker. 108 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,400 Let's put the war behind us. I am more concerned with peace. 109 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,800 Won't you sit down? 110 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,800 Olsen, it is said that you know people. 111 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,320 Yes, well. I don't know that. 112 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Vidkun Quisling. 113 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Yes? 114 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:48,080 He is, as you may know, in prison in Møllergata 19 and is awaiting his trial. 115 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,760 It will be a much needed settlement. 116 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Could you imagine to be his soulmate? 117 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,200 -I? For Quisling? -Yes. 118 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,680 Isn't it Traaen who is a prison chaplain over there? 119 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:12,360 He has made an honorable effort, but they are no longer on wavelength. 120 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Quisling is, perhaps not entirely unexpectedly, a somewhat complicated character. 121 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,600 -How then? - No, what to say... 122 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,360 The last time I met him was during the war, he threatened to execute me. 123 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Now he wants me as his soulmate. 124 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,840 - But can he just demand that? - Then I politely declined. 125 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,640 Nevertheless, I think it is crucial that we as a church contribute. 126 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,640 In what way then, do you think? 127 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,560 We are a wounded nation. 128 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,120 People are calling for the death penalty. More bad blood, more hate. 129 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,560 In the worst case we make the man a martyr. 130 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:59,320 If he could be helped to recognition, he would it be a beginning of reconciliation,- 131 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,680 -also for the rest of us, whatever the outcome of the trial. A step in the right direction. 132 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,680 But I don't know if I am right person for such a task. 133 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,400 I am a hospital chaplain. I have no experience with criminals. 134 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,920 Reconciliation is neither easy nor comfortable. 135 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,079 He who takes it lightly, is not sincere. 136 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,359 That you doubt, speaks only in your favor. 137 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Here you have the pass slips and other paperwork. 138 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:38,960 Then you will surely understand that it is important to keep this to yourselves. 139 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,240 What about my wife? can i talk to her Or? 140 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,000 As I said, Olsen, we keep this to ourselves. 141 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,960 No, that was stupid. Don't laugh so hard. 142 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,640 - It's the kind you leave... Like that. - You can do it right away. 143 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,280 It's just noise here. Think we're going to move on to... 144 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,480 Isn't that one...? 145 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Quisling denied that he had been in undue contact with the Germans. 146 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,360 He mentioned that he had been in Copenhagen 5 to 6 April... 147 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,200 - It is from the court of inquiry. - They won't let him out before the trial? 148 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:47,800 ...about his revocation of the Norwegian government mobilization order. 149 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,840 And replied that he had meant to act in the best interests of the Norwegian people. 150 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,320 For the best... He must be crazy. 151 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,240 "It has been a martyrdom", cried Quisling. 152 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,400 “I have been in the terrible situation that I have had to..." 153 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,680 -What? - I can't stand him anymore. 154 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,680 -What is a martyrdom? - Do you want to go out and play? 155 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,760 First he executes Norwegians to save his own skin and now he is a martyr? 156 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,840 - He's just trying to defend himself. - He seems proud of what he has done. 157 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,720 He's crazy. A beast. 158 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,440 Heidi, we are all human, we are all God's children. 159 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,480 - Can't you put away the priest talk? - The priest talk? 160 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,000 - So it must be allowed to be angry? - It's legal. 161 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,880 But that doesn't help much. 162 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,840 That man is worse than the Germans. He knew what he was doing. 163 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,920 He was one of us. 164 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Me and the children fled from the bombs while welcoming the enemy. 165 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,840 He sacrificed our freedom for his own power. 166 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,920 I want him down on his knees. 167 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Kneeling with arms above head. I want him to ask for forgiveness. 168 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,200 If not, they might as well shoot him. 169 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,600 I'll get the coffee. 170 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,640 I can't quite believe it. 171 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,440 I've been walking for so long with a claw in his chest. 172 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,720 In fear that something will happen every moment. 173 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,600 Then I sort of think so that if I let it go… 174 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,240 ...the flight alert or the Gestapo is coming. 175 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:06,280 -A nurse who will tell me... -But, you. 176 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:11,440 All that we're done now, right? 177 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,800 - Yeah. - It's over. 178 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,920 I know that. I know that. 179 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:24,680 You are allowed to be happy. You deserve it. 180 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,240 Father? 181 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,160 We will never get peace from them, anyway. 182 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,400 -Come with me. -Thanks. 183 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,720 Then you walk out the door, across the square and into the prison. 184 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,880 - You're going up there. -Yes. Thanks. 185 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800 The cell door must be left open. 186 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,880 If he hangs himself, can't we shoot the bastard. 187 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,720 Excuse me? 188 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Good day, my name is Peder Olsen. I'm a hospital... No, I'm a priest. 189 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,120 I asked for Berggrav. 190 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,680 Yes, unfortunately he was indisposed. 191 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,640 "Indisposed"? Yes, well. 192 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,400 - I have the new testament with me. -Thanks. I got one from the previous one. 193 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,640 - So, otherwise, thank you. -Yes, they did. 194 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,040 But it can never be too much of a good thing. 195 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,280 - It was a joke. Sorry. -You come in here and have a sense of humor? 196 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:34,560 I don't mean to be rude against you, Mr. Olsen. 197 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,120 But I need to no caregiver. 198 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,080 - But you wanted to talk to Berggrav? - Exactly, and it's not you. 199 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,280 No, I'm here as a representative of the Church. 200 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:53,960 There are many in your situation who want to talk to someone. 201 00:24:54,040 --> 00:25:00,200 So maybe I can help you to sort thoughts and find peace. 202 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,240 -Find peace. - Yes, if you wish. 203 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,240 Otherwise, thank you. Do you know why? I am an innocent man. 204 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,920 I don't have anything pending neither with the Church, God nor the nation. 205 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,160 If you could think of yourself to greet Berggrav from me and say- 206 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,800 - that I had matters to discuss with him concerning my cause, not my soul. 207 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Then I would really appreciate it. 208 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:53,800 Excuse me, but you know the story of the tax collector and the Pharisee? 209 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,280 Luke 18, verses 9-14. Every child knows it. 210 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:02,360 But the message is valid, right? 211 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,800 It's about being humble and see their faults. 212 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,960 The Pharisee, the righteous, he looks down at the publican,- 213 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,480 - because he's just a money collector, an ordinary man with a dirty job. 214 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,640 “God, I thank you for that I am not like other people,- 215 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,200 -as robbers, as unjust, as adulterers and the tax collector." 216 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,040 Yes, exactly. The Pharisee bragging about how gorgeous he is. 217 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:36,880 -While the customs officer... -Strikes his chest and says: 218 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,360 "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner." 219 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,920 What did the customs officer mean by that? 220 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,640 - Are you asking me about that? -Yes. 221 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,240 I thought it was you who was the priest here. 222 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,760 The point is probably not that the customs officer asks God for forgiveness for his sins. 223 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,360 Nor does he take forgiveness for granted. 224 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:07,480 He does the hardest thing, he takes in realize what he has done. He regrets. 225 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,760 He confesses to God. 226 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,160 Therefore he is forgiven. 227 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,880 That's why it's the publican who is closest to God of the two. 228 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,800 And the question must then be: Which of us do you mean De- 229 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960 -are Pharisees and who are publicans? 230 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,920 -What do you mean? - That you come in here with an order. 231 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:42,560 A mission from the venerable Berggrav, who does not condescend to come here himself,- 232 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,160 - to claim me conscience and remorse. Is that it? 233 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,640 For you and the church you represent must be able to wash his conscience clean. 234 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,440 Unless it's arrogance worthy of a Pharisee, I do not know. 235 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,880 But I have nothing to regret. I'm not going to confess anything. 236 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:05,200 Neither for you nor for Sunday school theology If you drag me to Golgotha! 237 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:11,800 - I guess everyone has something to be prepared for... - Yes, well! 238 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,320 And what have you, pastor, to confess? 239 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,800 Now it's not me we are here to talk about. 240 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,320 If you could excuse me. I have a work to do. 241 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,120 The Pharisees were, by the way very scribes. 242 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,920 It is the history books that have given them a bad and undeserved reputation. 243 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,840 They were idealists, just like you, Olsen. 244 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Yes, it went really well! 245 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,840 Peter! 246 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,080 -Sorry to disturb during working hours. - It fits great. 247 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,680 I was just about to to eat breakfast. 248 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Get to see your card. 249 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,120 - Calm down now. - They must be lifted! 250 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840 It boils a little under the top lid. 251 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,600 What's it like in here? now that everything is turned upside down? 252 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,640 When the jailers have become prisoners, you mean? 253 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,600 There is less paperwork, then. 254 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,800 It is good not to have SS inside the cell when I work. 255 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,320 It's Quisling, isn't it? 256 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,440 Of course. He asked you first. 257 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,240 I couldn't. 258 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,400 After four years of pastoral care for the condemned in here. 259 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:45,600 I have contact with the families to those who were executed by the Germans here. 260 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,120 For me it was completely... It didn't feel right. 261 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,360 -So I recommended you. -Yes, shall I thank you for that? 262 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,680 I recommended you because you are the best. 263 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,920 I have no experience with criminals or death row inmates. 264 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,040 I tried myself with the tax collector and the Pharisee. 265 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,360 I think I offended him. 266 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,840 He is a priest's son in the fourth generation, right? 267 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,040 So he was completely... Became very... 268 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,120 I remember you told me once that pastoral care is just a conversation. 269 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:37,160 - It should preferably go both ways. -I don't think Quisling agrees with that. 270 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,760 Hear what he has to say. Keep the conversation going. 271 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:54,120 If that doesn't work, you threaten him with leg clamp or baton. 272 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,960 Every single man can leave this match... 273 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,040 ...with a clear conscience. 274 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,480 It's such nice work. 275 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,160 That she made it inside the dark cone. 276 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,400 It was nice that you gave them knitting. 277 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,680 It certainly helped the nerves. 278 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,760 I don't know. 279 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,720 We didn't ask. Took us no time to get to know them. 280 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,680 At least we gave them a hiding place. 281 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,880 We stretched as far as we could. 282 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,960 These labor camps in Germany which they write about. 283 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,400 There is talk of several thousand dead. 284 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,160 We don't know that they ended up there. There were two old people. 285 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,640 What on earth were they supposed to do with them in a labor camp? 286 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,320 They must have been in detention, don't you think so? 287 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Do you really think? did they take age into account? 288 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,040 The Red Cross gets people home all the time. 289 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,880 I just believe it takes some time to get an overview. 290 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,360 Where do you get all that optimism from? 291 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,800 Heidi. 292 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,920 I have a good friend up there. 293 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,239 Do you never doubt? 294 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,239 I choose to believe. 295 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,560 We have to. 296 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,680 Mr. Quisling? 297 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,920 I didn't mean to disturb. 298 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,880 Yes, then it was us again. 299 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,360 I thought I was clear enough last time. 300 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,280 Yes, we must have come out a little crooked, and I'm sorry for that. 301 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:28,160 My wife has baked serina cakes. I thought that the diet here can be a bit one-sided. 302 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:33,040 The food here is absolutely fine. Herring and potato, it's good peasant food. 303 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,240 And otherwise? Do they treat you well? 304 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,800 - Yes, perfectly fine. -Yes. 305 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,280 They look a little pale. 306 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,920 May you just supply yourselves. 307 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,680 Tell me, are you trying to do you to befriend me? 308 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:13,320 Judging by the mood out there isn't there a profit on that front. 309 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,920 - Humor again. -Yes. 310 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,160 Did you get to meet your wife? 311 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:33,720 - Not since the arrest. - It must be difficult. 312 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,720 I can carry it, it's her I'm worried about. 313 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:44,040 If I hadn't been allowed to talk to my wife, Heidi, I had gone completely mad. 314 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,160 -What do you mean? I'm at my full five. - Yes, I'm not saying anything else. 315 00:36:53,280 --> 00:37:00,040 The psychiatrists as in all seriousness believes that all NS people, all of them, - 316 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,400 -have permanently impaired psychic abilities, at least weakened. 317 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,480 These so-called investigators- 318 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,200 -which wants me to admit that I'm some kind of fortune hunter. 319 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,800 A spineless Peer Gynt figure who have only been looking for their own gain. 320 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,880 - But you don't have that. - I have fought for my country. 321 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,000 For five long years. 322 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,800 Day and night. 323 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,240 If you see it. They don't believe me. 324 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,000 Yes, I think you mean what you say. Absolutely. 325 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,600 But... I guess they got too any benefits of the occupation? 326 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,040 Precisely. They think I fought my fight for silverware,- 327 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,920 -titles, salutes, tant and fjas! 328 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,040 The insecure man's armor. 329 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,320 Couldn't care less. Ask my wife. 330 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,240 I have shopped based on my conviction. 331 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,560 I'm not ashamed. 332 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,000 Can I sit down? 333 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,440 They met Hitler, didn't you do that? 334 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,280 What do you mean? 335 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,920 How was he? As a person? 336 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,800 A man with passion. 337 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,920 You can say what you want about the result, but there was a man who believed in something. 338 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,360 That cannot be said about everyone. 339 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,400 Is there something you admire? 340 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,240 Believe? Of course. 341 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,880 - But I personally place certainty higher. - Certainty? 342 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,880 One cannot base, as Hitler did, his politics on faith. 343 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,840 You have to know. Spend time finding sources. 344 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,880 Know. 345 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,080 In my whole life I have worked on a work. 346 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,160 Universalism. 347 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,920 The real truth. 348 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,320 I have given myself that task to light a candle for humanity. 349 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,040 To find the true outlook on life. 350 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,000 In belonging with both science and experience. 351 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,000 I can't expect you to... 352 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:55,320 ...a simple prison priest, should be able to understand it. 353 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,240 It sure is interesting with this universalism. 354 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:06,160 But what we should really strive for, are the words and deeds of Christ. 355 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,560 The love. 356 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,440 Universalism is the same, only much bigger. It deals with... 357 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,760 Mr. Quisling, greater than love? 358 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000 What is greater than love? 359 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,920 Pastor, could you stop by, my wife, Maria? 360 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,080 Just see she's okay. 361 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 Of course. 362 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,360 Thanks. 363 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:03,800 If you could bring some more writing paper. Starting to run out. 364 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,360 Until the next time you come. 365 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,240 See you then. 366 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,640 - Be so good. - Thank you. 367 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,640 Everything okay? 368 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,840 -Have you gotten him to say sorry yet? -What? 369 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,080 Have you made him apologize? Does he regret it? 370 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,120 That's all I was able to bring. It's my whole life now. 371 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,320 There must be a transition. 372 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,120 Had it not been for Mrs. Prydz' apartment, I had been standing on the street. 373 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,640 How is he? 374 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,720 According to the conditions, he is doing well. 375 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,080 -Excuse me, would you like some? - No thanks. I don't drink. 376 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:02,120 Is there something you want to say to him? I can convey a greeting if you wish. 377 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,720 Say I'm fine. That I am strong. 378 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,880 Strong and optimistic. 379 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,760 I am not interested in politics. 380 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,280 So drink with me. 381 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,440 How did you meet? 382 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,760 - What have you heard? - No, I'm just asking. 383 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,240 We met in Ukraine. My homeland. 384 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,200 He was very famous: "Captain Quisling". 385 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,840 He saved thousands of lives during the great famine. Did you know that? 386 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,040 No. 387 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,720 See. 388 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,240 See here. 389 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,280 Ukraine. 390 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,560 Russia. 391 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,360 Thousands. Jews too. 392 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,560 - Then he worked for Nansen? - Nansen... 393 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,440 Nansen didn't get it some dirt under the nails. 394 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,720 But Vidkun. 395 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,800 I saw him the first time through the office window. 396 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,920 I understood it right away. 397 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,360 He was capable of anything. 398 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,640 He was to be my destiny. 399 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,720 I left everything for him. My mother... 400 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,440 Hello. 401 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,160 - I almost started to be afraid of you. -Oh yeah? 402 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:47,480 -Are you hungry? -Yes. 403 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,320 - I saved some for you. -Thanks. 404 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,920 -Have you been drinking alcohol? - Half a glass, just. 405 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,120 It was a small celebration at the hospital. 406 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,560 - With the deaconesses? - No, a peace toast with one of the doctors. 407 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,880 -A peace toast? -Yes. It's not the end of the world, is it. 408 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,360 I was at the hospital. 409 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,440 I don't get to know where I'm going? 410 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,840 Do we need to know where we are going? 411 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,920 - Can't be Norwegian. -As Norwegian as you and me. 412 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:45,560 This is murder. On defenseless people, Mr. Quisling. 413 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,760 This is something of what the accusation against you is based on. 414 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,920 -How many have we found here? - Six, so far. 415 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,360 -And over there? -Eight, we think. It's hard to say. 416 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,760 Riisnæs? 417 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,840 Driver? 418 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:37,200 Arvid? 419 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,880 Hello? 420 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,720 Could you turn off the light, are you kind 421 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:49,880 Thanks. 422 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,560 -Can't you sleep? - No, it's... 423 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,840 ...the light that... 424 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,000 Shall I tell you why can't you sleep? 425 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,080 There are ghosts here. 426 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,800 The Boys They Killed on Trandum. 427 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,240 Listen. 428 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,200 Do you hear that? 429 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,480 It's my brother. 430 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,160 They are coming. 431 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:46,760 Vidkun... 432 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:57,440 Vidkun... 433 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,400 The trial will begin soon. 434 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,800 They want you transferred to Akershus prison. 435 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,360 Yes, well. 436 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,680 One moment. 437 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,760 Henrik Bergh, Mr Quisling's defender. Why didn't anyone tell me my client is moving? 438 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,680 - The security. Closer to the courtroom. - I cannot accept this. 439 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:29,200 My client is in poor health. It is certainly both cold and damp in there. 440 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:34,600 - It's going well. -Can I have a moment with my client? 441 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,760 -Can I have a moment with my client? - Be so good. 442 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,360 It's only for a few weeks. 443 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,880 The psychiatrists have concluded that you are fully sane. 444 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,560 Of course. 445 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,240 But it has not been done some thorough judicial observation. 446 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,720 The conclusion was given in advance. I think we should appeal the question. 447 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,840 -Why that? - It should go well, then. 448 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:16,560 You understand that you risk the death penalty? 449 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:23,760 It will be beneficial to argue for that in some episodes you may have lost your mind. 450 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,320 I didn't do that. I didn't lose my mind. 451 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,400 I understand that. But the distance- 452 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,480 - between your understanding of reality and the court's is a problem. 453 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,560 Yeah, so insanity is a better defense than the truth? 454 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,440 I have made my assessments based on my professional competence. 455 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,720 My knowledge and my strategic assessments. 456 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,600 It must then be possible to get the right to understand it? 457 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,240 That's your job! Satan! 458 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,680 Besides, I feel in absolutely excellent shape. Absolutely brilliant! 459 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,840 Never felt stronger! 460 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,680 No touch. 461 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,800 No... 462 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,840 You look good. 463 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,080 You must get Bergh to let me testify. 464 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,080 - Why won't he let me in? - It was my choice. 465 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,240 I wouldn't put you through that. 466 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,920 No touching! I said it. 467 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,640 - She doesn't listen. - You said it. 468 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,160 Your comrade is here. 469 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,480 Is that you? 470 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,200 -Are you going to shave me? - No, it isn't. 471 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,640 I just wanted them good luck today. 472 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,400 Because it is a big day. 473 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:32,720 - I look like a lazaron. - In no way. It's a nice suit. 474 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,760 Tell me, do you also think I'm crazy? 475 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,920 They actually seem remarkable Upbeat, Mr. Quisling. 476 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,040 The situation taken into account. 477 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,440 Good day. Fine. Fits. 478 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,920 The court is set. 479 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,800 Vidkun Abraham Quisling. 480 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,880 The prosecution decision is issued by constitu- 481 01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:02,120 -state attorney Annæus Schjødt by order of the Attorney General. 482 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,680 It reads: "Major Vidkun Abraham Quisling,- 483 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:11,160 -born 18 July 1887, is hereby placed under indictment at the Eidsivating Court of Appeal 484 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,280 - for crimes against the following provisions: 485 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:19,200 1. Seeking to bring Norwegian or connected troops or men-of-war in hostile violence. 486 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:25,240 2. Seeking to bring fortifications or other defense post in hostile violence, - 487 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,280 -or destroys or renders them unusable. 488 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,120 3. Leader Norwegian or affiliated men of war to go over to the enemy- 489 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,760 -or inciting them to mutiny or other infidelity. 490 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,760 Will the defendant stand up? 491 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:48,840 Do you find them guilty of punishment in one, more or all of the charges? 492 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,720 I plead not guilty. 493 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,880 Not at any point. 494 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,400 The only thing I've wanted,- 495 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,680 -was to protect my people against Bolshevism. 496 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,200 Yes, you were in Russia. 497 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:19,560 My beloved Russia was changed, turned into hell on earth. 498 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,000 People were starving. 499 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,920 Mothers... 500 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,440 ...ate their own children. 501 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,840 It was a betrayal, betrayal of his own people. 502 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:41,840 So-called responsible people sat here at home politicians and applauded in the government. 503 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,320 It spread like a cancer. 504 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,760 I saw my calling to stop it. 505 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,280 - They saw it as a calling? -Yes. 506 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,400 Those who are priests must understand what i mean. 507 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,240 Yes, it's probably not quite the same. 508 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,160 Why not? 509 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,080 It was a task given by God. 510 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,760 You think you are called by God? 511 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,800 The prosecution has documents that show- 512 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,440 - that the defendant is guilty of treason already before 9 April 1940. 513 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,280 He conspired with Hitler,- 514 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,600 -his foreign policy advisor Rosenberg- 515 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,640 -and Germany's Grand Admiral Raeder. 516 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:49,240 There were plans to overthrow the government and promises that the king would accept this. 517 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:54,960 The coup d'état on 9 April was a meticulous one plan motivated by cynical opportunism. 518 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:59,680 As a legislator during the years of occupation is he responsible for oppression,- 519 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,200 - censorship, dictatorship and driving principle. 520 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,920 He must also be held accountable for the murder of police deputy Eilifsen, - 521 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:14,360 - who was sentenced to death of the defendant's completed law. 522 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:19,640 The same must be said of the 14 Norwegians patriots executed in reprisal- 523 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:24,720 - for the liquidation by state police chief Martinsen in 44. 524 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,920 Quisling's responsibility for destiny to the Norwegian Jews- 525 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,760 - also seems to be larger than first thought. 526 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:40,640 And finally, I would like to ask the court to take note the indictment's counts of theft 527 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:45,200 - embezzlement, fraud and adultery. 528 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:51,360 The defendant himself believes that this is the case the rightful dispositions of a head of state. 529 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:58,320 To that we will reply that Vidkun Quisling has never been head of state in Norway- 530 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,680 - according to Norwegian law. 531 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,200 Are you willing to explain them? 532 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,920 For five years I fought for Norwegian interests, 533 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,200 - for the Norwegian people, Norwegian values, Norwegian neutrality, 534 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:19,000 -forced between the Germans' cruel attitude and Terboven's pig. 535 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:25,720 Nygaardsvold, on the other side, encouraged good Norwegians to terror. 536 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,920 Trandum was terrible, but no one needed to die- 537 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,840 -if only people would cooperate! 538 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,440 But you signed it on the death sentences? 539 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,960 They could have pardoned people. 540 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:48,320 This is the premise of war, the monster of war. 541 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,600 You had to give the Germans something, to save ten and save... 542 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,640 ...sacrifice one. 543 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,760 It was some kind of horse trading, then? 544 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,240 Call it what you want. 545 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:20,080 It's no secret that I meant that England threatened Norwegian neutrality. 546 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,800 With that result of that Germany could invade Norway- 547 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,400 -with subsequent carnage on Norwegian soil. 548 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,120 I wanted to avoid the same thing happening in Norway as in Poland. 549 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,360 I am Norway's savior. 550 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,000 One may not want to see it, but in the future one might want to see it. 551 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,480 But how could the Germans save us without occupation? 552 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:49,640 A peace operation was planned with Hitler's blessing. 553 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,320 He wanted to save Norway's neutrality. 554 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:59,920 To save Norway, they wanted Germany should occupy us before England? 555 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,760 No, not in that way. I left that to fate. 556 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,840 It is then the fate of fate that I became the man who saved Norway. 557 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,080 This case is not just my case. 558 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:17,160 This is the entire Norwegian population his case, the future will show. 559 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,279 No one can take away from me faith in my cause. 560 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:25,760 I know I have saved both Norway and the Nordics! 561 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:31,600 We probably won't get anywhere near you all the time repeats that You are a savior. 562 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,240 Administrator, can we ask for a short break? 563 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:46,240 To be completely honest, I think it is difficult to understand him. 564 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,000 Nobody knows my husband. 565 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,120 No? 566 01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:01,160 They have a duty of confidentiality, pastor? 567 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,000 Yes. 568 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,760 - We are not married. -What? 569 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:18,200 Not on paper. Vidkun was married with another when he hit me. 570 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,960 Don't look at me like that. I didn't know anything. 571 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,399 -What happened? -She refused to divorce. 572 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,640 And then no one wanted to marry us. 573 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:36,560 We tried many places, in Russia, the legation in Paris. 574 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,000 In Norway she was... 575 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,720 ...already presented to the family. 576 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,359 It was horrible. 577 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,600 You still ended up together. 578 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:55,320 Vidkun meant we could live together, all three of us. 579 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,560 We could raise her as our foster daughter. 580 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,200 Yes, well. The one he was married to? 581 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:08,200 She was just a child, 17 years old, way too young for him. 582 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:13,080 They accepted it? Was it okay with you? 583 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,120 I was in love. 584 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:22,960 But it didn't work. He sent her to Paris. 585 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,960 What did his family say about this? 586 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,960 He explained them it was a formality. 587 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,080 - He had to save her. -Save? But he betrayed her. 588 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:41,640 Russia was hell at that time. He got her out. 589 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:48,080 Right, so he betrayed his wife and called it a rescue operation. 590 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,080 That's exactly what it is he is now doing with Norway. 591 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:04,720 - Did you know Mr. Quisling in your school days? -Yes. 592 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,600 We were close friends in high school. 593 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:13,120 -What was your impression of him? - Very good. 594 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:18,360 I have the best impression of him and his personality. 595 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:21,640 His faithful friendship. 596 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,560 He was good at school. 597 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,680 Had a distinct receptive ability. 598 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,560 Had interests like boys at that age not usually have. 599 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,600 He was particularly good at mathematics. 600 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,400 And he was kind. 601 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,240 Feel free to help us with the homework. 602 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,840 We looked up to him, all of us. 603 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,720 - A good friend, that is. - I would say so. 604 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:55,560 I speak for all of us the schoolmates from that time. 605 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,720 But there is one thing, one character trait- 606 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,920 -which I think I want to highlight. 607 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,720 And that he might be interested for the psychologist. 608 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,400 That Vidkun basically was very shy. 609 01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:17,080 To the extent that he probably suffered. 610 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:24,840 He walked a lot alone, and had clear inferiority complexes. 611 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,320 Even he was inside with great knowledge, great learning. 612 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,840 But to us privately was he natural. 613 01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:39,640 But to strangers he was very closed, withdrew. 614 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,600 Lonely, I'd say. 615 01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:51,000 - I drew it to my advantage. -For your benefit? 616 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,360 I decided to be the best. 617 01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:58,120 Didn't go to a party. Didn't go out with the girls. 618 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,560 Then I went out too the best marks in the school's history. 619 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:10,720 So you opted out of friends to be able to beat them? 620 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:16,760 Of course I had friends, but other interests preoccupied me more. 621 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,240 To be the best? 622 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,920 - Are you laughing at me? -No. 623 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,680 I see what you're trying to do. 624 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,640 Trying to put myself in my place. 625 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,800 Make me bigot crazy. 626 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,480 I have made all my sacrifices for others and not myself. 627 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:49,000 Those who are priests must also understand when I talk about having something to fight for. 628 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,080 To do good. 629 01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:01,640 Yes, maybe that. There are many who believe that you have not done good. 630 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,880 Of course. 631 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,240 It is the victor who write history. 632 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:18,560 The suffering does not diminish. Norway was a peaceful country that was attacked. 633 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,800 A free people forced into dictatorship. Don't you have a responsibility for that? 634 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:28,120 I took responsibility! I made sure that there was no bloodbath on Norwegian soil. 635 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,680 Stalin stood on the border. When the Germans came, we had no choice. 636 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:37,040 - But committing a coup d'état? Ruled the king... - They left! 637 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:44,040 Everyone! Failed his people! That scared the chickens! 638 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,640 Someone had to take responsibility! 639 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:59,080 Later I met him again, now just before the outbreak of war. 640 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,680 Then we had dinner together. It was nice. 641 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:07,800 But then we started discussing Norway's position, and now everything was turned upside down. 642 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,280 Then I started to doubt his sanity. 643 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,720 Now he had violent fantasies- 644 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,840 - about armed, communist forces around the country. 645 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:27,920 Bolsheviks who stood ready to revolution on a given signal. 646 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:33,800 He meant a number of government members received money from Russia- 647 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:38,080 - to finance the revolution in Norway. 648 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,840 If I'm being honest,- 649 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,200 - I thought he had stayed completely insane. 650 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,600 At least he had changed a lot. 651 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,360 Thanks. 652 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:59,160 I followed my inner compass. 653 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:09,880 If you want to judge me for actions which I had no overview of. 654 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,760 Make me a scapegoat for this whole miserable war. 655 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,000 But my intentions were good. 656 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,160 Do you understand? 657 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:26,640 Yes. 658 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:35,960 Shouldn't that be factored into the calculation when one have to settle the big accounts? 659 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,320 That I meant that I did what was right. 660 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,000 What else could I do? 661 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,000 What would you have done? 662 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,040 I cannot know that. 663 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,080 It's ugly... 664 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:08,600 ...to make oneself believe that I should go after the Jews! 665 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,680 I who have done such a great humanitarian work! 666 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:17,920 I would claim that I am the one which has helped the most Jews in this country. 667 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,320 Excuse me, could you repeat the last one? 668 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,920 They heard me: I am that person which has helped the most Jews in this country. 669 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:31,240 Nevertheless, you have advocated in speech and in text that Judaism is to blame for virtually everything. 670 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:36,080 - That the Jewish troll had to be fought. - Yes, well. 671 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:41,200 What was your role in the deportation? of the Norwegian Jews, Mr. Quisling? 672 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,720 - I knew nothing. - They didn't know anything? 673 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,200 They were responsible for the police and knew not what kind of mission the police were given? 674 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,920 There was talk of them being sent to Poland. I didn't know more. 675 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,240 You must have known something. 676 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:04,400 They said in questioning that they visited the camps Jews were sent to, in Poland in 1942. 677 01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:09,080 Yes, they appeared normal labor camps, workplaces. 678 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:13,720 There was nothing to note, nothing I saw there made an impression. 679 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:19,160 No. “It was nothing where that made an impression." 680 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,960 Need to know what that man saw? 681 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,440 Hello. 682 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,920 Where are the children? 683 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,600 Is there something wrong? 684 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,000 I pressed your pants. 685 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,240 - Yes, right? - I found the pass. 686 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,120 To the prison. 687 01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:22,000 Heidi, I wanted to say that, but... 688 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,600 - The duty of confidentiality... -Don't give it to me! 689 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:30,160 You could then have said who it concerned. I mean, Quisling! 690 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:34,920 It was out of consideration for your and your children's safety. 691 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:40,560 -Dear friend, Peder! - Berggrav thought it was best. 692 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,200 Of course Berggrav meant it. 693 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:48,440 Of course the bishop is not visible you should say something to the little lady at home! 694 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,200 The two of us talk together. 695 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:59,280 - I have a duty as a priest. -What about your duty to me? 696 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:19,120 - I went to their old apartment. -Heidi... 697 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,440 What was I supposed to do? The Red Cross knows nothing. 698 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,880 Other than that they were sent off with the transport ship. 699 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,280 - I found these in a drawer. -You messed around in their things? 700 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,480 No, I'm just trying to understand what has happened. 701 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,840 There is talk of organized murder. 702 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,200 That people are gassed and thrown into mass graves. 703 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:50,920 - We can't believe all rumours... -Why not? 704 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,680 Alt det vi trodde ikke kunne skje, has happened. 705 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,760 -Det var Quisling som lot det skje. - You don't know that. 706 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,320 -Are you defending him? -Nei, men han er ikke dømt ennå. 707 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:11,040 Verden er ikke så svart-hvitt som det du vil ha den til... 708 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:19,040 Hvis herr og fru Abrahamsen not coming back? 709 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,480 Dette orker jeg ikke å høre på. 710 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,120 Du må da ha tenkt på det? At Gud kanskje straffet oss... 711 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,040 Now you stop! 712 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:35,680 -Jeg trenger å snakke om det. -You have to let it go. We have to move on! 713 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:43,000 Hvis disse to ikke kommer tilbake. 714 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,680 - If we have sent them to their deaths... - They're coming back! 715 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,600 There are labor camps, regular ones workplaces. Nothing else! 716 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:25,000 Your full name and occupation, please. 717 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:29,160 Leo Eitinger. Born 12 December 1912. 718 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,760 Trained doctor and received a licentia practicandi in 1940. 719 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,680 Then it is your witness, Schjødt. 720 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:43,640 They still practiced as doctors when you were arrested on 16 May 1942? 721 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:49,920 -You were arrested because you were Jewish? - Don't know. There was no interrogation. 722 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,240 -Where were you taken? - First to Molde. 723 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,880 Then Falstad and Bretvedt. 724 01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:01,760 And in February 1943 to Germany with the cargo ship Gotenland. 725 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,120 And from there to Auschwitz. 726 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,080 Were there people of both sexes and at all ages? 727 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:17,440 The oldest was a man aged 80 and the youngest a child of one and a half. 728 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,040 What happened when you came to Auschwitz? 729 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,800 A number of young girls were drawn out. 730 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,960 All other women, children and the elderly, 731 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,400 - were taken away on trucks. 732 01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:37,200 Only later did we find out what had happened. 733 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,000 What had happened with the women and children? 734 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,920 All women and children were taken into gas chambers, 735 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:53,080 - where they were killed with prussic acid gas and then cremated. 736 01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:59,560 -When was this? -In 1943. 737 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,560 How did it go? 738 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:10,960 Well, for starters the gas chambers were primitively arranged. 739 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:15,480 An ordinary barracks covered with tin for it to be gas-tight. 740 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,680 People who came had to undress outside. 741 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,280 Then they were chased in, and the doors locked. 742 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:26,760 From a window on the roof the gas bombs were thrown in. 743 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:34,200 The gas chambers were then expanded to a large underground facility. 744 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,280 With a dressing room furnished as a bathroom. 745 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:46,640 People got the impression that they were going to bathe since they had to undress. 746 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,360 They went in without a clue what would happen to them. 747 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,840 It happened often that while some were inside and were gassed, - 748 01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,240 -the others had to undress and wait outside naked 749 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,680 -while they heard what was going on. 750 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,600 How many of you stayed thus taken to the gas chambers? 751 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:17,120 I'm not really sure, but everyone who were not able to work, were killed. 752 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:21,760 For men it was working age between 20 and 45. 753 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:26,760 -Were people beaten and mistreated in the camp? -Yes. 754 01:25:27,480 --> 01:25:31,360 - So far that they were beaten to death? -Yes. 755 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:33,800 Did you see something like this yourself? 756 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,920 Yes, I saw people who has been beaten to death. 757 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:45,040 Do you know of other Jewish prisoners in other camps were treated in the same way? 758 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,160 Yes. I know that for sure. 759 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,320 -Were there many suicides down there? -Yes. 760 01:25:55,400 --> 01:26:01,560 The most common way was to go outside the line while marching to work. 761 01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:05,440 Then he was shot right away. 762 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,640 Do you know how many Norwegian Jews there are? that was sent to Germany? 763 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,240 I think it was around 950 or 1000. 764 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,080 The figures are not entirely accurate. 765 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,120 -How many have returned home? -Twelve. 766 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,680 - Did you say twelve? -Yes. 767 01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:31,320 The rest must we assume are dead? 768 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:32,760 Yes. 769 01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:35,280 Thank you. 770 01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:42,920 Could I in conclusion May I mention one thing? 771 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,560 I recently read in the paper... 772 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:55,640 ...that Quisling had stated that he did not know about the persecution of the Jews. 773 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,760 That he would like to help them. 774 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:03,120 But after the Danube had been sailed, Quisling gave a speech in Trondheim. 775 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,360 There he defended what had happened. 776 01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:10,480 How then can he claim not to have known anything? 777 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:17,560 Can you remember to have given this speech? 778 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:22,040 Yes, I gave a speech in Trondheim. 779 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,840 Presumably a lecture. 780 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,800 I gave a number of lectures at that time. 781 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,720 You know when you're walking in the woods and navigates by the sun. 782 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,400 And then suddenly it gets dark, and you don't know where you are,- 783 01:28:43,480 --> 01:28:46,120 -where you are going or what time it is. 784 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,600 I wonder if I'm going crazy. 785 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:59,360 You always have a more interesting soul life than mine. 786 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:05,200 What has happened in those camps, that evil... 787 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:12,000 The worst is that I almost started to like him. 788 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:17,960 When he talks about something that concerns him, he seems concerned with doing good. 789 01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:23,040 - Just like you. - No, he's not like me. 790 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,400 He turns right to wrong and true to false. 791 01:29:27,480 --> 01:29:31,720 Worse than that, he gets right and wrong to cease to be objective quantities. 792 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:37,280 He draws you into his own logic so you think he is right and you are wrong. 793 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:41,120 - Is it that important, then? - There is a difference between right and wrong. 794 01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,280 He calls himself a Christian, but does not possess humility. 795 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:48,160 It's the Nazi in him, the driver's tank. 796 01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:53,760 The strong man who never doubts. There is no Christianity in that. 797 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,280 No, you can only show him the way. 798 01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,440 You can't force him to walk it. 799 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,840 But what if I don't know the way? 800 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,200 Are you afraid of losing your faith? 801 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,880 It is human to doubt, Peder. 802 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,040 It's human to wander off. 803 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:23,720 We are fallible. We just have to accept that. 804 01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:05,320 are you sleeping 805 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,480 They are dead. 806 01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,080 Right? 807 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,280 Rosa and Elias Abrahamsen. 808 01:31:39,480 --> 01:31:42,000 All are dead. 809 01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,880 Good afternoon. Or is it afternoon? 810 01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,760 How can you... 811 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,880 How can you say that you didn't know? 812 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,680 This is what you do: Writing about the narrative- 813 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,560 - to make it fit in your twisted world view. 814 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,760 It doesn't matter who sacrificed on the road and who must die. 815 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,760 -If it's the deportations you're thinking of... - Yes, of course! 816 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,920 You knew! You spoke glowingly on the so-called Jewish question- 817 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,760 -shortly after Donau left Oslo. 818 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,200 - You defended what had happened! - It is more complex. 819 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:41,040 Much more complicated. I didn't sit with the information you have received afterwards. 820 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,800 - You were prime minister! - I was in a pressured political situation! 821 01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:50,000 It was murder of innocent people! No situation can defend it! 822 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,400 There are other rules in war! 823 01:33:53,480 --> 01:33:56,000 People die in war! 824 01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:02,440 Bolshevism and the Bolsheviks was far worse. 825 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,320 I have proof. I have seen it with my own eyes! 826 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:11,080 For eight years I was knee-deep in corpses! 827 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,720 I saw mothers who ate their own children! 828 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:19,640 Then you will teach me about what suffering is?! 829 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,320 I have seen it with the naked eye! 830 01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:31,560 How far did you think it was okay to stretch it for the good cause? 831 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:37,080 How many lives is your "life mission" worth? I think it has gone to your head. 832 01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:42,840 You had gotten into position. You had Hitler's ear, you were king at Gimle! 833 01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,920 It was nice to finally have it a voice, finally being heard. 834 01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,240 Vidkun Quisling, the aid worker- 835 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,800 - who ended up in the shadow of Dr. Nansen, the politician who did not get along with the masses. 836 01:34:54,880 --> 01:35:01,600 When the opportunity presented itself for you and yours knucklehead, did you sleep with the enemy! 837 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,560 Because there was a greater enemy! 838 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,640 Had it not been for the effort that I... 839 01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,920 You say it and maybe you believe it, but you don't know that! 840 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,240 How could you believe that you knew what Norway needed? 841 01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:20,960 You know nothing about other people. for you have chosen them away. 842 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:25,920 - Just as you choose away the truth. -History will prove that I was right! 843 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:30,720 History will show that I did the right thing for Norway and Norwegians. 844 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,600 I knew what Norway needed. 845 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:38,440 Yes, people can stand there and say what they want,- 846 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,240 - but I will stand by it! 847 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:46,840 The strongest is the man which stands completely, completely alone. 848 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:53,360 Yes, so that's what you want? To stand alone? Be so good! 849 01:35:53,440 --> 01:35:56,400 The two of us are done with each other. 850 01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:27,640 How is it going? 851 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,920 Do you think... 852 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:55,120 ...that one can be so wrong of his life's mission? 853 01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,560 Yes, I think so. 854 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,720 How is it going then? 855 01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,280 Are you afraid you've made a mistake? 856 01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:21,120 About everything I've done, if I were to think it was wrong,- 857 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,880 -then I can't live with myself. 858 01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:30,200 There is forgiveness for everything. 859 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,120 I don't know... 860 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:55,320 I... 861 01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:05,640 Could you just stay a little longer? 862 01:38:07,480 --> 01:38:10,800 Nice to not be alone right now. 863 01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:40,960 It is not easy for the rest of us to understand Vidkun Quisling. 864 01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:47,360 There is a swallowing deep that separates him and his perception of reality from that of others. 865 01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:51,160 Equally, it is the court's duty to get into his personality. 866 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:55,120 Also for the subjective sake must be proven- 867 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,880 - if he is to be judged. 868 01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:02,680 It happens that you don't understand that you don't even imagine- 869 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,440 - to be able to understand another person's thought life and feelings. 870 01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:11,800 In this matter, one faces than such a riddle. 871 01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:20,640 Attempts have been made to solve the Quisling riddle with the somewhat simplified explanation- 872 01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:25,720 - that it is about self-assertion, lust for power or lust for money. 873 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,840 If you maintain this as the key to Quisling's mind,- 874 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,680 - then you understand very little of the man. 875 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:39,240 I therefore raise the question: How can it be explained- 876 01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:44,600 -that he who participated with honor in Nansen's humanitarian work in Ukraine and Armenia- 877 01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:49,800 -and was considered an intellectual and moral first class human being,- 878 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:55,040 -now sits here under it endlessly serious allegations made in the case? 879 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,080 As his defender, it is my duty- 880 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:08,120 - to get the defendant's personality illuminated as well as possible. 881 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,920 The court must be aware of- 882 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:15,880 - that in any case there is a mystery here. 883 01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:27,760 -How is the form? - They have given me this pencil. 884 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:31,280 But no points, no knife. 885 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:35,920 How can I defend myself? when I can't write down the arguments? 886 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,160 -What do you want to say, then? - My reasons. 887 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:43,640 My background from Fyresdal, growing up, what shaped me. 888 01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,000 My patriotism. 889 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,360 My years at the war school. My political activities... 890 01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:53,840 Perhaps less about motives and more about what you could have done differently? 891 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,440 Shouldn't I defend myself? 892 01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:00,920 You are going to be judged no matter how much you defend yourself. 893 01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:04,200 - The court needs something conciliatory... -Something conciliatory? 894 01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,920 -Yes, humility. - Humility. 895 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,800 I cannot stand in court and waver. I must appear clear and distinct. 896 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:20,840 No one likes to admit mistakes, but if That's what it takes to save a life? 897 01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:25,640 -Humility... - You showed yourself humble towards me. 898 01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,440 Humility... 899 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:51,800 You have the word in your power. You'll figure it out. 900 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:53,640 See you again. 901 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,000 See you again. 902 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,080 Thanks. 903 01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:13,840 Thank you very much. 904 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,840 You are quiet today. 905 01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:33,000 Your defender Bergh I will ask you to be humble. 906 01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,680 He wants you to say sorry. 907 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,960 -What do you mean? -I? 908 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:54,400 Don't bow to them. 909 01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,920 You shall not let those barbarians break you. 910 01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,400 No one is stronger than you. 911 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,440 I knew it the very first time I saw you. 912 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:12,880 There is a man who will never let themselves be broken! 913 01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,120 I thought so. 914 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:24,240 You are Kapitan Quisling, you are my Kapitan Quisling. 915 01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,560 They will understand. 916 01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,400 Don't you think so? 917 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,640 You make them understand. 918 01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:58,120 I, who have faithfully served my country, accused of treason, 919 01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:02,760 -while those who are actually responsible for this misery… 920 01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:11,040 ...the defense saboteurs, the ones who drove us into this war, they go free. 921 01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:14,000 They can rejoice and say, "Ha!" 922 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,680 "There we finally got him." 923 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:24,120 I wanted the best. My Service- 924 01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,880 -has exclusively been for the Norwegian people 925 01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:32,040 - and to promote the kingdom of God on earth- 926 01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:36,760 -Jesus Christ came to found. 927 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:43,560 I am not conscious of having done so something to harm the Norwegian people. 928 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,320 However, I am self-aware for obstructing- 929 01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:51,880 - the Norwegian people and the Nordic region from becoming a theater of war. 930 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:55,200 What I am accused of right here. 931 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,480 Prevented a civil war. 932 01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:02,480 Tried to remedy the invasion and the occupying power's 933 01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:07,480 - great strength and misfortunes towards the Norwegian people. 934 01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,800 Do you have children? 935 01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,000 Not me either. 936 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:36,280 Judgment is pronounced with final judgment. 937 01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:42,480 Vidkun Abraham Lauritz Quisling sentenced to death 938 01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:48,280 - for breach of the military penal code section 80 number one, two and three. 939 01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:54,480 Comply with paragraph 9 number one and the Penal Code section 12 last paragraph. 940 01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:59,000 The Military Penal Code section 80 reads... 941 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:10,000 Do they understand the sentence? 942 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:13,600 Yes. 943 01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:18,840 By the judgment of the Court of Appeal the question of guilt is finally settled. 944 01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:22,880 They can bring the matter before the Supreme Court if you think the punishment is too severe, - 945 01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:28,320 - that the proceedings are illegal, or that the law is unreasonably applied. 946 01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:33,240 You can declare this at once, or You can ask for a cooling-off period. 947 01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:45,320 I want to have a try my judgment before the Supreme Court. 948 01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:50,000 Thus, the matter is finished. 949 01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,080 The court has been adjourned. 950 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,720 -Mrs Quisling... - I don't want to be disturbed. 951 01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:25,760 I expect that you have heard about the judgment. 952 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:30,200 Yes, but I accept it of course not. 953 01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:34,000 I am a fighter, Mr. Olsen. 954 01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,360 You have to, fight to the last cartridge. 955 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,920 I tried to get our friends to talk, but they are in prison. 956 01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:48,400 So I write. Look, I'm writing to Gerhardsen. 957 01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:51,920 I am writing to General Ruge. 958 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,200 Stalin. 959 01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:57,080 - To Stalin? -Yes. 960 01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:03,800 He is my countryman, I know he appreciated our work in Ukraine. 961 01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,320 What do you think he can do? 962 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,400 I beg for mercy. 963 01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:17,240 Someone must then be able to show mercy, even after a war. 964 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,440 They can't shoot him. 965 01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,880 I can't lose him. 966 01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:31,360 I was nothing until I met him. 967 01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:35,560 A poor secretary from a country without a future. 968 01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,080 Invisible. 969 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:43,240 But in his eyes I became someone. I became Maria Pacek. 970 01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:47,880 Descendant of Vikings. I became Prime Minister's wife. 971 01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:51,280 What will I do without him? Without him I am nothing! 972 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,440 Do you understand? A lie... 973 01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:34,160 There are also many that supports you. 974 01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,920 I get more letters. 975 01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:44,400 And I have written to Prime Minister Gerhardsen. 976 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,760 Prayed for you. 977 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:52,560 And General Ruge. And the king. 978 01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,560 Did you write to the king? 979 01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:59,200 We have met him several times when you were Minister of Defence. 980 01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,800 A long time ago, was in 1932. 981 01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,040 I even danced with him. 982 01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,440 He liked you. 983 01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:11,680 Do you think? 984 01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:23,120 It must be anything else i can do. 985 01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,000 There must be something more! 986 01:53:34,480 --> 01:53:37,640 What is it you want that I should let go? 987 01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,880 The conscience? 988 01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,560 God? Is that it? 989 01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:52,880 -Is that what you do? - I can't think like that. 990 01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:57,200 If I do that, I don't know where I will end up. 991 01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,960 Here, maybe. 992 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,440 Here where I am. 993 01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:08,400 But my job is to give hope. 994 01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:12,120 If I lose hope, then… 995 01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,880 I have a husband who is sentenced to death. 996 01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,480 He is completely lost. 997 01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:25,240 If I can penetrate it, find a streak of light or hope… 998 01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,040 So do you find your faith? 999 01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:34,640 I just want to help him find peace. 1000 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,920 That's nice, Peder. 1001 01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:48,760 How can you help someone if you are not at peace with yourself? 1002 01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,640 You write such beautiful letters. 1003 01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:21,480 "We two are one. Was and will be. 1004 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:25,600 And never let that thought leave you. 1005 01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:29,600 Whether I'm asleep or awake on the other hand,- 1006 01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:34,120 -my immortal part is also always with you. 1007 01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:40,040 My Eternal and Immortal Beloved." 1008 01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:46,920 I want to... 1009 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:49,800 I would like to- 1010 01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:53,560 - you could say that. 1011 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:57,720 What you write. These words. 1012 01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,320 That you could look at me and tell them. 1013 01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,960 So I could notice that you meant it. 1014 01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,400 Please be kind. 1015 01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,440 Just the one time. 1016 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,720 Can't you just say it? 1017 01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:28,640 -Say you love me! - I do, of course. 1018 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:32,160 Please! 1019 01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,000 Mary... 1020 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:37,480 I... 1021 01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:44,560 -Maria, it's just stupid. - Stupid? 1022 01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:50,000 What is holding you back? 1023 01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:54,600 I mean what is written. I wrote it to you. 1024 01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,080 Do you really want to? that I should help him? 1025 01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,760 Because I don't know if I can do it alone, Heidi. 1026 01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,200 I need you. 1027 01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:17,800 Thank you. 1028 01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,280 Yes, of course. 1029 01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:34,000 The pardon has been refused. 1030 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:39,200 I have to go and tell him. 1031 01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:00,920 The tax collector and the Pharisee. 1032 01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:03,720 That's what it landed on. 1033 02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:05,920 Have you heard anything? 1034 02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,200 It was rejected, unfortunately. 1035 02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:18,400 Neither the king nor the prime minister or others have wanted to pardon you. 1036 02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:22,280 So then a decision has been made. 1037 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:26,880 How long? 1038 02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:29,280 It will happen tonight. 1039 02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,480 Last night... 1040 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:37,040 I'll stay here with you as long as you want. 1041 02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:42,800 This is probably the intention as well. 1042 02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:45,760 Maria, you must… 1043 02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:51,840 You must promise to take care of Maria for me. 1044 02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:54,360 Yes. 1045 02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:58,720 She was so appreciative the conversations with you. 1046 02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:06,600 Shall we read something together or not? 1047 02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:09,680 I don't know... 1048 02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,400 Do you want to receive communion? 1049 02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:15,800 No, not that. 1050 02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:20,440 Many people think it's nice to be forgiven for their sins. 1051 02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:27,320 They don't understand. I am innocent. 1052 02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:31,200 I have nothing to confess. 1053 02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:49,400 But everyone has something to confess. 1054 02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:53,240 Do you remember what we talked about? the tax collector and the Pharisee? 1055 02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:56,720 You called it "Sunday School Theology". 1056 02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,800 And I felt a little stupid. 1057 02:01:59,880 --> 02:02:05,200 There is a reason why there is child learning. It is a simple truth. 1058 02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:09,160 The one who stands closest to God, is the one who- 1059 02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:13,840 - is able to own up to his mistakes. 1060 02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:16,000 For their weaknesses. 1061 02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,480 His humanity. 1062 02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:24,160 I have nothing to regret. 1063 02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:26,920 Nothing. 1064 02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,280 But you told me that. 1065 02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:34,920 You wondered if you had made a mistake of your life mission. 1066 02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:36,680 Yes. 1067 02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:39,640 Yes... 1068 02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:47,000 I was dazzled of my patriotism for Norway. 1069 02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:51,240 I should have devoted myself to greater things. 1070 02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:55,600 This may not be the time to think of what could have been. 1071 02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:59,080 Had I gone in in the political work, - 1072 02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:04,320 -then I could have prevented the war. I saw it coming. 1073 02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:08,640 Please be kind. You don't have to to defend it to me. 1074 02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:13,280 It is written: "Whoever hates me hates my Father also. 1075 02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:17,640 Had I not done such deeds among those that no one else has done,- 1076 02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:21,120 -would they be without sin, but when they have seen my works,- 1077 02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:23,320 -they hate both me and my Father. 1078 02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:29,640 But the word that is written down in their law, shall be fulfilled. 1079 02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:35,760 - They hated me for no reason..." - Vidkun. 1080 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:39,840 God does not hate. God is love. 1081 02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,600 The Jewish people rejected Jesus Christ- 1082 02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:50,600 -for the robber Barabbas. It is the same choice that people have today. 1083 02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:55,200 Many would rather have a Barabbas than a true Messiah. 1084 02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:58,680 I can't sit and watch it. 1085 02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:02,640 I have to fight back. To the very end. 1086 02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:11,000 - I will be most dangerous after my death. - But you are no Messiah, Vidkun. 1087 02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:14,160 You are a human being. A sinner, like the rest of us. 1088 02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,440 - They have to go now. - No, I'm not going. 1089 02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:20,800 Not until you find peace with God. It's my defiant urge. 1090 02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:24,360 They must go. I want to be alone. 1091 02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:28,720 - No, I'll stay. - They have to go! Do you hear that! 1092 02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:32,240 - They have to go now! -Please listen to me. 1093 02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:37,720 - They have to go! - I am the Pharisee. 1094 02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:43,640 what did you say 1095 02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:51,600 You asked me which one of us who is the tax collector and who is the Pharisee. 1096 02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:53,760 You were right. 1097 02:04:56,200 --> 02:04:59,920 I have been a hypocrite. I haven't gone inside myself either. 1098 02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:11,800 It was an elderly Jewish couple who hid in a box with us. 1099 02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:17,200 Rosa and Elias Abrahamsen. 1100 02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:24,600 We had sat a box of apples in there. 1101 02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:29,120 And one night then had our daughter, Liv,- 1102 02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:33,600 -sneak in to take one, and then she caught sight of them. 1103 02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:39,200 Of course she was terrified. She thought it was a troll. 1104 02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:45,000 I managed to calm her down and said she had dreamed it all. 1105 02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:52,120 But I couldn't stop thinking about it that she wanted to tell about these trolls- 1106 02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:57,120 - to a classmate at school... 1107 02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:03,440 I didn't dare have them there anymore. I had them admitted to Lovisenberg- 1108 02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:05,960 - as contagious. 1109 02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:10,440 I thought we might could fool the police that way. 1110 02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:15,360 Then they were taken there. 1111 02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:33,560 Taken away as they prayed for their lives. 1112 02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:39,320 Heidi saw everything from the kitchen window. 1113 02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,000 They died in Auschwitz. 1114 02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:54,000 You did what you had to do. 1115 02:06:55,640 --> 02:07:00,200 No, I made a choice. I could have saved them, but... 1116 02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:09,240 I let consideration for me and mine come first two old people who needed help. 1117 02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:15,640 You did that to any human being would have done in the same situation. 1118 02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:19,920 That's what I've been telling myself, that I acted in the best sense. 1119 02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:25,880 Regardless, my choice cost the two people life. 1120 02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:33,360 Why are you telling me this? 1121 02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:38,840 Because I have done what you are doing now: I defended myself, lied to myself. 1122 02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:42,640 Because I was afraid, because I got lost. 1123 02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:47,040 Because I lost faith in that God would receive me... 1124 02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:54,160 I didn't trust him, I was about to lose him. 1125 02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:58,600 Vidkun. 1126 02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:02,800 Do you dare to trust God? 1127 02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:08,360 Do you trust me? 1128 02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:16,720 Then you must pray to God about the forgiveness of sins. 1129 02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:21,080 Then you have to say what the customs officer said. 1130 02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:26,040 "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner." 1131 02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:31,360 Now say it to God. 1132 02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:35,640 It is not dangerous. 1133 02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:39,840 God does not leave you. 1134 02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:42,680 I will not leave you. 1135 02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:22,640 Lord, be merciful to me a sinner. 1136 02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:30,800 God, be merciful to me a sinner. 1137 02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:35,440 Be my sin... 1138 02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:53,000 This is the body of Jesus. 1139 02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:57,960 And this is the blood of Jesus. 1140 02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:09,320 This is the body of Jesus. 1141 02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:12,960 And this is the blood of Jesus. 1142 02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:25,040 Crucified and resurrected Jesus Christ gave us his holy body and blood. 1143 02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:28,760 Which he gave for atonement for all our sins. 1144 02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:33,680 He strengthens us and keeps us up in a true faith to eternal life. 1145 02:10:34,680 --> 02:10:37,440 Peace be with you. 1146 02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:49,000 Excuse me. 1147 02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:54,680 Your wife came by with it down here in the police station. 1148 02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:57,320 Yes, well. 1149 02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:23,880 She asks me to say hello. My wife. 1150 02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:27,000 Yes... 1151 02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:30,200 Thank you. 1152 02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:43,040 Real coffee. 1153 02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:46,400 It is gunpowder strong. 1154 02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:51,640 Was it humor? 1155 02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:54,640 What? No, sorry... 1156 02:11:54,720 --> 02:11:56,960 Gunpowder strength? 1157 02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:04,320 Gunpowder... 1158 02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,040 Yes yes. 1159 02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:15,960 I'm going to sleep tonight anyway, so. 1160 02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:36,000 Have been notified to get ready. 1161 02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:39,560 can i take it 1162 02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:35,000 Then the time has come. 1163 02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:06,480 “The hour has come. 1164 02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:13,920 Look. 1165 02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:18,000 The Son of Man is betrayed in the hands of sinners. 1166 02:14:24,440 --> 02:14:27,600 The soldiers then led him away,- 1167 02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:31,880 - into the castle and called together the entire guard force. 1168 02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:38,000 They clothed him in a purple robe. 1169 02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:42,960 They braided that crown of thorns they put on him. 1170 02:14:54,400 --> 02:14:57,840 Then they led me out to let me be crucified. 1171 02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:02,840 They led me to the place Golgotha. 1172 02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:08,760 It was the third hour they crucified me. 1173 02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:15,200 And at the ninth hour Jesus cries out to God: 1174 02:15:19,200 --> 02:15:23,280 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?' 1175 02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:29,320 Father. 1176 02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:35,080 Forgive them. 1177 02:15:38,120 --> 02:15:41,000 Because they don't know what they're doing." 1178 02:17:10,879 --> 02:17:13,000 Mr. Quisling. 1179 02:17:13,959 --> 02:17:16,600 Then it's time. 1180 02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:26,480 Farewell. 1181 02:17:56,959 --> 02:17:59,120 I want to look death in the eye. 1182 02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:01,920 I want to look death in the eye! 1183 02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:05,799 That is the regulation. 1184 02:18:41,680 --> 02:18:43,959 Peder. 1185 02:19:29,559 --> 02:19:32,559 I am innocent! 1186 02:19:33,200 --> 02:19:37,559 You shoot an innocent man!