1 00:00:07,507 --> 00:00:09,307 - I never experienced anything paranormal 2 00:00:09,376 --> 00:00:12,276 before I moved into that house. 3 00:00:12,345 --> 00:00:13,475 - What is that? 4 00:00:13,547 --> 00:00:16,847 - I have no idea. 5 00:00:16,917 --> 00:00:18,077 - Hear it? 6 00:00:18,151 --> 00:00:19,631 - It's walking back and forth up there. 7 00:00:19,653 --> 00:00:20,753 - Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! 8 00:00:20,755 --> 00:00:21,915 Quiet! 9 00:00:21,988 --> 00:00:23,958 We didn't expect anything to happen. 10 00:00:24,024 --> 00:00:26,494 But this night was different. 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,690 - I'm getting goose bumps. 12 00:00:27,761 --> 00:00:32,401 I can recall that moment. 13 00:00:32,466 --> 00:00:34,766 - He was lifted through the air. 14 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:36,225 - What happened? 15 00:00:36,237 --> 00:00:39,037 - I was in shock. 16 00:00:39,106 --> 00:00:42,436 - I was worried they would find me dead 17 00:00:42,509 --> 00:00:44,439 or that I would find them dead. 18 00:01:01,261 --> 00:01:04,161 [Haunting music] 19 00:01:04,231 --> 00:01:08,471 ♪ ♪ 20 00:01:10,537 --> 00:01:13,307 I was 23 years old. 21 00:01:13,373 --> 00:01:16,483 I had a two-year-old son, 22 00:01:16,477 --> 00:01:19,607 and I was six or seven months pregnant with my daughter. 23 00:01:19,679 --> 00:01:21,679 My husband and I were having problems, 24 00:01:21,748 --> 00:01:24,548 and we just decided it was better for us and the kids 25 00:01:24,618 --> 00:01:29,118 if we just weren't together. 26 00:01:29,189 --> 00:01:30,889 I was looking for a place to rent, 27 00:01:30,957 --> 00:01:32,887 and I wasn't looking for anything in particular. 28 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:34,960 I just stumbled across that place. 29 00:01:35,028 --> 00:01:37,028 - Apple? - I liked it right away. 30 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:38,297 - Yeah. 31 00:01:38,365 --> 00:01:39,435 - It was a little bungalow. 32 00:01:39,466 --> 00:01:40,466 It was off the street. 33 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:41,630 It was private. 34 00:01:41,702 --> 00:01:43,462 It was the perfect place to start a new life. 35 00:01:46,673 --> 00:01:48,913 My ambitions were to finish school 36 00:01:48,975 --> 00:01:53,145 and to get a job that I could support my family with. 37 00:01:53,213 --> 00:01:55,113 I was trying to get my degree, 38 00:01:55,182 --> 00:01:57,422 so it was a lot of work at home, a lot of studying. 39 00:02:01,121 --> 00:02:02,531 - [Over TV] This clown is my husband. 40 00:02:02,556 --> 00:02:03,556 - Husband? 41 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:04,660 - Yeah, you know. Husband. 42 00:02:04,724 --> 00:02:07,134 [Humming "wedding march"] 43 00:02:07,194 --> 00:02:08,564 - I had this picture in my mind. 44 00:02:08,628 --> 00:02:11,628 Everything was just gonna be perfect. 45 00:02:11,698 --> 00:02:13,398 But after about a month or so, 46 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:16,736 I started to hear odd sounds around the house. 47 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:19,737 [Objects clattering] 48 00:02:30,183 --> 00:02:32,953 It sounded like pebbles, 49 00:02:33,019 --> 00:02:36,249 like somebody dropped a handful pebbles 50 00:02:36,323 --> 00:02:38,323 from the top of the wall, 51 00:02:38,391 --> 00:02:40,461 and they just fell all the way to the bottom. 52 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:46,770 That is not a normal sound that a house makes. 53 00:02:46,767 --> 00:02:48,297 It was just so distinctive. 54 00:02:51,871 --> 00:02:53,541 Gave me a shiver up my spine. 55 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:08,019 Bit by bit, I began to realize 56 00:03:08,088 --> 00:03:11,558 that a lot of the activity was coming from above me. 57 00:03:13,961 --> 00:03:16,231 It happened every night, 58 00:03:16,296 --> 00:03:18,826 a very particular strange sound, 59 00:03:18,898 --> 00:03:20,168 very high-pitched, 60 00:03:20,167 --> 00:03:21,827 almost to where it hurt your ears. 61 00:03:21,901 --> 00:03:24,841 [High-pitched whining] 62 00:03:30,176 --> 00:03:34,776 It seemed to be coming from up in the attic. 63 00:03:38,318 --> 00:03:42,448 I noticed that the trap door was open. 64 00:03:42,522 --> 00:03:46,422 I never would have opened that door. 65 00:03:46,427 --> 00:03:48,987 I wanted to put the door on right. 66 00:04:02,743 --> 00:04:06,343 I started to think that I was not alone, 67 00:04:06,347 --> 00:04:09,917 that there was other things in that house besides me. 68 00:04:11,051 --> 00:04:13,221 [Knocking] 69 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:18,756 - Hey. - Hey. 70 00:04:18,825 --> 00:04:20,155 - You okay? 71 00:04:20,226 --> 00:04:23,956 - My close friends were staying more and more often. 72 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:28,133 - Thanks. 73 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:31,201 - I remember telling my friend, Susan, 74 00:04:31,271 --> 00:04:33,341 some of the things that happened. 75 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:35,510 - So what's up? 76 00:04:35,575 --> 00:04:37,405 - She was a big support. 77 00:04:37,477 --> 00:04:41,107 - And they sound like they're coming from the ceiling. 78 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:43,381 [Loud banging] 79 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:44,620 - What the hell was that? 80 00:04:44,684 --> 00:04:46,654 - We heard a big bang coming from the kitchen. 81 00:04:53,660 --> 00:04:57,000 One of the pictures that was hanging on the wall 82 00:04:57,063 --> 00:04:59,503 was propped up against the sink. 83 00:05:01,334 --> 00:05:03,904 The nails were also placed... 84 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:05,940 They were standing perfectly on their heads. 85 00:05:08,541 --> 00:05:10,611 Nails can't come directly out of a hole 86 00:05:10,677 --> 00:05:13,607 come down, then end up on their heads. 87 00:05:18,352 --> 00:05:21,392 Somebody or something did that. 88 00:05:27,694 --> 00:05:29,634 - Eight. 89 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:30,756 What's this one? 90 00:05:30,831 --> 00:05:33,101 - One of the neighbors was a young girl. 91 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:34,696 She was 16 years old. 92 00:05:34,768 --> 00:05:36,068 Her name was Tina. 93 00:05:36,136 --> 00:05:37,766 She would come over and baby-sit for me. 94 00:05:37,837 --> 00:05:40,117 - Don't forget to change him before you put him down, okay? 95 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:42,040 - Of course. 96 00:05:42,108 --> 00:05:43,868 - I thought that she was really, really nice, 97 00:05:43,910 --> 00:05:45,480 and she was a really dedicated mom. 98 00:05:45,545 --> 00:05:47,075 - I'll see you soon, okay? 99 00:05:47,147 --> 00:05:48,647 Hmm? Yeah? 100 00:05:48,715 --> 00:05:49,845 Be good. 101 00:05:49,916 --> 00:05:51,116 - I enjoyed her company a lot. 102 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:52,684 Like, we used to talk and hang out 103 00:05:52,686 --> 00:05:54,016 even when I wasn't babysitting. 104 00:05:54,087 --> 00:05:55,017 - Okay. - Okay. 105 00:05:55,088 --> 00:05:56,548 - Have a good night. - Bye. 106 00:05:56,623 --> 00:05:59,363 - [Over TV] Don't look now, man, but your muffler's moving. 107 00:05:59,426 --> 00:06:01,426 [Laughter] - Who are you? 108 00:06:01,494 --> 00:06:03,804 - Jackie was out, and she'd asked me to babysit, 109 00:06:03,797 --> 00:06:06,897 and Jamie was asleep. 110 00:06:06,966 --> 00:06:08,526 [High-pitched whine] 111 00:06:11,205 --> 00:06:12,395 It was getting pretty late. 112 00:06:12,472 --> 00:06:13,912 I hadn't heard any noise for a while. 113 00:06:13,907 --> 00:06:15,667 So I wanted to just make sure that he was okay 114 00:06:15,676 --> 00:06:16,876 and peek in on him. 115 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:36,964 The door just opened for me, 116 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:38,460 and I thought, "well, that's weird." 117 00:06:42,368 --> 00:06:45,698 Turned around and pushed the door closed behind me 118 00:06:45,706 --> 00:06:49,266 and the latch caught the door. 119 00:06:49,342 --> 00:06:51,212 Jamie was fine. 120 00:06:51,277 --> 00:06:52,537 [Door clicks] 121 00:06:55,449 --> 00:06:59,619 But then coming back, the same thing happened. 122 00:06:59,686 --> 00:07:01,886 I thought, "maybe, you know, it's the house. 123 00:07:01,889 --> 00:07:03,719 "It's... the floor's not level. 124 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:05,620 If you step here, it's gonna swing the door." 125 00:07:09,562 --> 00:07:11,832 I would explain it away, explain it away, 126 00:07:11,898 --> 00:07:15,268 but when it got to the point that I couldn't explain it away, 127 00:07:15,335 --> 00:07:17,165 it was very frightening. 128 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:21,270 - So how's school going? 129 00:07:21,341 --> 00:07:23,711 - It's all right. 130 00:07:23,776 --> 00:07:27,246 - We were just talking, making something to eat. 131 00:07:33,753 --> 00:07:36,423 - Hey, do you see this? 132 00:07:36,489 --> 00:07:39,119 - I looked up, and there was these lights. 133 00:07:42,095 --> 00:07:43,455 - What is that? 134 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:45,660 - I have no idea. 135 00:07:49,102 --> 00:07:53,042 - It wasn't something that I've ever seen before. 136 00:07:53,106 --> 00:07:55,136 - It's not like a reflection off of anything. 137 00:07:55,208 --> 00:07:57,078 They had, like, substance to them, you know? 138 00:07:57,143 --> 00:07:59,683 - I really don't have a good feeling about this. 139 00:07:59,746 --> 00:08:00,776 - You know what? 140 00:08:00,847 --> 00:08:02,207 - Yeah, Jackie, let's just get out. 141 00:08:02,249 --> 00:08:04,249 - I did not want to be in her house. 142 00:08:04,317 --> 00:08:06,687 - I remember grabbing the camera and taking some pictures. 143 00:08:15,194 --> 00:08:16,594 - Oh, come on. 144 00:08:16,597 --> 00:08:18,797 - And then all of a sudden, the camera stopped working. 145 00:08:18,865 --> 00:08:20,595 - What is wrong with this thing? 146 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:22,307 - She handed me the camera, and she's like, 147 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:24,075 "see if you can get it to work," and I thought, 148 00:08:24,103 --> 00:08:25,313 "well, maybe if we're not trying 149 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:27,008 to take pictures of the lights, it'll work." 150 00:08:27,007 --> 00:08:30,107 So I pointed it out the kitchen window. 151 00:08:33,613 --> 00:08:35,013 - [Screams] 152 00:08:35,081 --> 00:08:40,451 - I saw a face in the viewfinder of an emaciated old man... 153 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,720 Almost skeleton-like. 154 00:08:42,789 --> 00:08:45,759 I just had to run. 155 00:08:45,825 --> 00:08:47,655 - When that happened, 156 00:08:47,727 --> 00:08:48,727 there was no doubt in my mind 157 00:08:48,729 --> 00:08:51,059 that there was something in that house. 158 00:09:21,861 --> 00:09:23,401 - What number is that? 159 00:09:23,463 --> 00:09:24,863 - Nine. - Nine! 160 00:09:24,931 --> 00:09:25,861 Yeah! 161 00:09:25,932 --> 00:09:27,032 You're hilarious. 162 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:29,630 - Seven. - Seven! 163 00:09:29,702 --> 00:09:30,642 What is that one? 164 00:09:30,703 --> 00:09:31,943 - My ex-husband, al, 165 00:09:32,004 --> 00:09:33,524 used to come and visit every now and then. 166 00:09:33,539 --> 00:09:35,769 He was very, very good with Jamie. 167 00:09:35,842 --> 00:09:37,192 I was telling al some of the things 168 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:38,640 that had been going on in the house. 169 00:09:38,711 --> 00:09:40,711 - I think there's something wrong with this house. 170 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:42,580 - She felt that there was something very odd 171 00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:44,479 about the house. 172 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:46,280 She says, "I feel something here." 173 00:09:46,353 --> 00:09:49,553 - I get this cold feeling about it. 174 00:09:49,622 --> 00:09:53,022 - Truthfully, I thought that she was trying to draw attention 175 00:09:53,092 --> 00:09:56,792 and trying to draw my attention to the fact that she was alone. 176 00:09:56,863 --> 00:09:58,833 - You don't believe me, do you? 177 00:09:58,832 --> 00:10:00,602 - He didn't really believe me. 178 00:10:00,601 --> 00:10:03,871 He thought I was exaggerating. 179 00:10:03,936 --> 00:10:05,836 - Without a doubt, I had to assume 180 00:10:05,905 --> 00:10:08,635 that maybe something was wrong with her. 181 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:10,978 I thought, "how can I explain this to her 182 00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:13,114 "where she'll feel that, 'yeah, that's right; 183 00:10:13,179 --> 00:10:15,449 that's what it is, nothing to worry about'"? 184 00:10:15,449 --> 00:10:17,079 - There has to be an explanation. 185 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:19,160 - He was trying to talk to me, and saying, "you know, 186 00:10:19,185 --> 00:10:22,515 why don't you just call it out, challenge it?" 187 00:10:22,588 --> 00:10:23,718 - What? 188 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:25,260 - Call it out. 189 00:10:25,324 --> 00:10:29,294 - I said, "well, if you are here, 190 00:10:29,362 --> 00:10:30,502 then let's see." 191 00:10:30,563 --> 00:10:32,263 - Show yourself. 192 00:10:32,331 --> 00:10:33,461 - I was just terrified. 193 00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:34,927 I'm like, "what the heck is he doing? 194 00:10:35,001 --> 00:10:37,501 What's gonna happen next?" 195 00:10:44,577 --> 00:10:46,507 Nothing did happen. It was just still. 196 00:10:46,579 --> 00:10:47,979 - See? 197 00:10:52,719 --> 00:10:55,749 I'll see you when I can. 198 00:11:02,462 --> 00:11:04,802 - I go into the closet. 199 00:11:10,737 --> 00:11:14,737 An entire wall was written al, 200 00:11:14,807 --> 00:11:19,507 "a" in blue and "l" in red. 201 00:11:19,513 --> 00:11:22,113 And it was written hundreds and hundreds of times. 202 00:11:27,153 --> 00:11:29,523 That was the answer to the challenge. 203 00:11:35,462 --> 00:11:36,692 If I had the money, 204 00:11:36,763 --> 00:11:38,433 I would have moved out right away, 205 00:11:38,498 --> 00:11:41,598 but there was no way I could have moved 206 00:11:41,667 --> 00:11:43,197 with the expense that it costs to move. 207 00:11:43,203 --> 00:11:46,243 - You need to to tell someone what's going on here. 208 00:11:46,305 --> 00:11:48,135 - Susan said, "well, maybe you should tell 209 00:11:48,207 --> 00:11:50,177 the landlords what's going on." 210 00:11:50,243 --> 00:11:51,743 - It's their house. 211 00:11:51,811 --> 00:11:53,551 - I remember me saying, 212 00:11:53,613 --> 00:11:55,353 "I don't want to tell anybody 213 00:11:55,414 --> 00:11:58,624 because I don't want them to think I'm nuts." 214 00:12:07,093 --> 00:12:10,193 It was a few weeks later that I was out walking with Susan. 215 00:12:10,263 --> 00:12:13,403 I was eight or nine months pregnant at the time. 216 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,730 - How are ya? - Susan. 217 00:12:14,801 --> 00:12:16,761 - The landlord and his wife were also coming back. 218 00:12:16,803 --> 00:12:19,573 We bumped into each other on the sidewalk, 219 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:21,269 and then sue just brought up the activity 220 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:22,870 that was happening in the house. 221 00:12:22,942 --> 00:12:26,512 - Jackie's having some trouble at the house. 222 00:12:26,579 --> 00:12:28,809 - When the landlord acted concerned about it, 223 00:12:28,881 --> 00:12:32,021 then I thought, "well, maybe he's not gonna think I'm crazy." 224 00:12:32,084 --> 00:12:38,024 He asked if I had any objection to them bringing in a priest. 225 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:39,490 So I said, "sure." 226 00:12:53,573 --> 00:12:55,613 I just didn't have a good feeling towards them 227 00:12:55,609 --> 00:12:58,609 from the very beginning. 228 00:12:58,678 --> 00:13:01,548 They both seemed to be very cynical about everything, 229 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:05,224 like they were judging me. 230 00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:07,124 - I see you like horror movies. 231 00:13:07,186 --> 00:13:11,086 - Uh, those ones are my ex-husband's. 232 00:13:11,157 --> 00:13:12,757 - Your ex-husband? 233 00:13:12,825 --> 00:13:15,585 - Yeah. 234 00:13:15,661 --> 00:13:17,701 - I had a aquarium. 235 00:13:17,763 --> 00:13:21,473 On the bottom, there was a little ornament of a skeleton. 236 00:13:21,534 --> 00:13:25,244 He said that I was bringing death into my house. 237 00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:26,604 - I'm sorry? 238 00:13:26,672 --> 00:13:28,042 - The skeleton. 239 00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:32,037 - That just struck me as odd. 240 00:13:32,045 --> 00:13:36,405 I had a collection of dolls from different countries. 241 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:39,252 There was one that was a souvenir from the Caribbean. 242 00:13:43,222 --> 00:13:45,062 He said it was a voodoo doll. 243 00:13:48,094 --> 00:13:51,764 By that point, I was feeling very, very uncomfortable. 244 00:13:51,831 --> 00:13:53,831 - Seems to me like you are bringing 245 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:55,470 most of this trouble on yourself. 246 00:13:55,534 --> 00:13:56,804 - [Crying] 247 00:13:56,869 --> 00:13:58,269 - Um, I'll be right back. 248 00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:01,367 I just have to go get my son, okay? 249 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,440 - [Crying] 250 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:04,338 - Jamie was screaming. 251 00:14:04,410 --> 00:14:07,350 They said my son wasn't acting normal 252 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,677 and that he was possessed by the devil. 253 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:11,223 That's why he was crying. 254 00:14:11,284 --> 00:14:13,124 - He doesn't appear to be acting normal. 255 00:14:13,185 --> 00:14:14,495 - He said, "can we bless your son?" 256 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,060 - In the name of the father, the son... 257 00:14:18,124 --> 00:14:19,064 - Jamie just screamed. 258 00:14:19,125 --> 00:14:20,405 He didn't want this guy near him. 259 00:14:20,459 --> 00:14:22,859 - And the holy spirit... 260 00:14:22,929 --> 00:14:25,829 - Then he said, "don't you want to bless the unborn too?" 261 00:14:25,898 --> 00:14:28,268 - In the name of the father, the son... 262 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:29,534 - I do believe in god, 263 00:14:29,602 --> 00:14:31,552 but everything they said as far as I was concerned 264 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:33,500 when they entered that house was ridiculous. 265 00:14:33,572 --> 00:14:36,412 - [Crying] 266 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:42,610 Fish! 267 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:43,712 Whee! 268 00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:45,077 [Typewriter clacking] 269 00:14:45,151 --> 00:14:47,521 - The following day was gonna be a long one for me 270 00:14:47,586 --> 00:14:49,746 because I had an assignment due. 271 00:14:52,758 --> 00:14:53,958 [Knocking] 272 00:15:00,866 --> 00:15:02,126 - Hi, Jackie Hernandez? 273 00:15:02,201 --> 00:15:03,201 - Yes. 274 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:04,539 - Hi, I'm from social services. 275 00:15:04,603 --> 00:15:05,853 I'm wondering if you have a moment 276 00:15:05,871 --> 00:15:07,381 that I could come in and speak with you. 277 00:15:07,406 --> 00:15:08,946 - That just caught me totally off guard, 278 00:15:08,975 --> 00:15:12,535 like, you know, what would social services be doing here? 279 00:15:12,611 --> 00:15:13,611 - Come on in. 280 00:15:13,646 --> 00:15:15,906 - Thank you. 281 00:15:15,916 --> 00:15:17,646 - Sorry about the mess. 282 00:15:17,717 --> 00:15:19,877 - It was like probably the worst time ever 283 00:15:19,952 --> 00:15:22,392 that they could have knocked on my door and come in. 284 00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:24,959 I hadn't had a chance to clean it that morning. 285 00:15:25,024 --> 00:15:26,894 Jamie had chocolate cupcake on his face. 286 00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:28,359 He was still in his pajamas. 287 00:15:28,427 --> 00:15:32,357 - Can I ask why you're here? 288 00:15:32,431 --> 00:15:33,701 - We've had a report that... 289 00:15:33,766 --> 00:15:36,866 - She said they had a report from the two priests 290 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:40,766 that I had been on hallucinogenics 291 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,270 and I was pregnant. 292 00:15:43,342 --> 00:15:44,782 - I'm sorry? 293 00:15:44,844 --> 00:15:48,384 - It was just so off the wall to me and crazy. 294 00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:50,177 I had never taken any drugs. 295 00:15:50,249 --> 00:15:51,279 I wasn't even drinking. 296 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:54,720 - [Singsong jabbering] 297 00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:55,987 - I was worried for my kids. 298 00:15:56,055 --> 00:15:57,715 It is possible to take your children, 299 00:15:57,790 --> 00:15:59,960 even if you are a perfect mother. 300 00:16:00,026 --> 00:16:01,756 - That's everything I need for today. 301 00:16:01,827 --> 00:16:03,427 - Okay. - Okay. 302 00:16:03,496 --> 00:16:04,926 - It just taught me the lesson 303 00:16:04,997 --> 00:16:06,597 things are better left unsaid 304 00:16:06,665 --> 00:16:08,145 because you never know what can happen 305 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:12,971 if you tell people. 306 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:15,119 I wasn't going to say anything to anybody ever again. 307 00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:23,409 Shortly after that, I had Samantha, my daughter. 308 00:16:26,352 --> 00:16:27,422 I brought her home, 309 00:16:27,486 --> 00:16:29,116 and after everything that happened, 310 00:16:29,188 --> 00:16:31,388 I really was hesitant about bringing her there, 311 00:16:31,457 --> 00:16:32,617 but I had no choice. 312 00:16:40,266 --> 00:16:42,426 A couple of days later, I return from grocery shopping. 313 00:16:42,468 --> 00:16:45,198 I had the bags in my arm. 314 00:16:54,914 --> 00:16:58,724 It spelled, "get the hell out." 315 00:16:58,718 --> 00:17:00,078 The doors were still locked. 316 00:17:00,152 --> 00:17:01,922 Everything else was untouched. 317 00:17:01,987 --> 00:17:06,017 There was no logical explanation, none. 318 00:17:06,092 --> 00:17:07,762 I knew at that point it was not friendly 319 00:17:07,827 --> 00:17:10,957 and it didn't want me around, 320 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:13,900 'cause that was definitely directed just at me. 321 00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:25,239 I was afraid of going to sleep 322 00:17:25,311 --> 00:17:27,651 because I had to watch over those kids. 323 00:17:27,713 --> 00:17:32,053 And what if I wasn't able to see what was happening to them? 324 00:17:32,118 --> 00:17:35,188 I was sleeping on the daybed. 325 00:17:35,254 --> 00:17:36,624 Jamie was sleeping with me. 326 00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:38,259 I was afraid to put him in the bedroom. 327 00:17:38,324 --> 00:17:41,294 And Samantha slept in a little bassinet next to me. 328 00:17:47,433 --> 00:17:51,273 The level of fear built up more and more every night. 329 00:17:57,443 --> 00:18:00,953 I can remember waking up and hearing breathing. 330 00:18:01,013 --> 00:18:04,023 - [Raspy breathing] 331 00:18:07,586 --> 00:18:10,616 - It was loud, and it was distinctive. 332 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,070 I can't even describe the feeling 333 00:18:29,141 --> 00:18:31,041 of being as scared as I was. 334 00:18:42,988 --> 00:18:46,618 I saw somebody sitting on the bunk bed. 335 00:19:08,647 --> 00:19:13,077 - I was just totally terrified. 336 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,452 I looked up again, and he was gone. 337 00:19:18,424 --> 00:19:20,964 - [Panting] 338 00:19:21,026 --> 00:19:27,666 [Shades scraping and clunking] 339 00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:29,627 - Every single shade in the house 340 00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:31,272 went up at the same time. 341 00:19:31,337 --> 00:19:33,367 [Baby fussing] 342 00:19:33,439 --> 00:19:35,909 [Baby crying] 343 00:19:35,975 --> 00:19:39,905 You can't rationalize that. 344 00:19:39,979 --> 00:19:41,949 I didn't sleep the rest of the night, you know? 345 00:19:42,014 --> 00:19:43,254 I was just trembling all night. 346 00:19:43,315 --> 00:19:44,315 I remember that. 347 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:59,099 It was important for me 348 00:19:59,164 --> 00:20:03,574 not to let the kids 349 00:20:03,636 --> 00:20:05,636 see how frightened I was. 350 00:20:05,704 --> 00:20:09,044 I had to keep it away from him. 351 00:20:10,576 --> 00:20:14,306 I would try not to allow myself to be afraid. 352 00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:16,184 At least pretend like I wasn't. 353 00:20:19,985 --> 00:20:22,715 It is the most helpless feeling. 354 00:20:22,788 --> 00:20:26,488 There's something that's in the house 355 00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:28,988 that actually was there before you came, 356 00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:30,931 so it's not your house. 357 00:20:30,997 --> 00:20:33,697 It's their territory, not yours. 358 00:20:33,766 --> 00:20:35,266 So you're the intruder. 359 00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:36,334 That's how I felt. 360 00:20:36,368 --> 00:20:37,898 I felt like I was the intruder. 361 00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:48,307 - Listen, you can't go on like this. 362 00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:51,220 You got to get some help. 363 00:20:51,283 --> 00:20:53,983 - My friend Susan said that she had a number 364 00:20:54,053 --> 00:20:57,453 that she had gotten that was a parapsychologist. 365 00:20:57,523 --> 00:20:59,523 You know, I should call him and get some help. 366 00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:01,391 - I want you to call him, okay? 367 00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:02,564 - No way. 368 00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:04,758 - But I said no because of what had happened 369 00:21:04,830 --> 00:21:07,500 the last time I allowed somebody into the house. 370 00:21:07,566 --> 00:21:10,426 - I really think you need to call him. 371 00:21:10,502 --> 00:21:12,402 - She gave me the number anyway and said, 372 00:21:12,471 --> 00:21:14,341 "here, call it when you're ready," 373 00:21:14,406 --> 00:21:15,866 and I put it into a drawer. 374 00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:24,881 Later on, I remember I was doing dishes. 375 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:27,150 It was pretty late. 376 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:36,827 My first reaction was, "I cut myself." 377 00:21:43,936 --> 00:21:46,336 But when I turned around, 378 00:21:46,405 --> 00:21:50,335 it was coming out of the cabinets. 379 00:21:50,409 --> 00:21:53,509 It was forming on the glass. 380 00:21:53,579 --> 00:21:57,149 It was all around me. 381 00:21:57,216 --> 00:22:00,276 It was infecting my kitchen. 382 00:22:00,352 --> 00:22:02,392 I thought I got to do something. 383 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,889 I called the parapsychologist. 384 00:22:09,962 --> 00:22:11,862 [Phone pad beeping] 385 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:14,061 [Phone line trilling] 386 00:22:14,067 --> 00:22:18,267 - [Sobbing] 387 00:22:23,976 --> 00:22:26,936 - I remember the night that the paranormal team arrived. 388 00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:30,812 My ex-husband happened to be visiting the kids at the time 389 00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:32,983 which was good because he could keep them occupied. 390 00:22:36,422 --> 00:22:38,692 - She told me that she had found these people 391 00:22:38,757 --> 00:22:41,927 that investigated such happenings. 392 00:22:41,994 --> 00:22:46,534 - You okay? 393 00:22:46,598 --> 00:22:48,868 - I kind of thought, "why not?" 394 00:22:48,934 --> 00:22:50,404 This is perfect. 395 00:22:50,469 --> 00:22:52,569 These people will come in. 396 00:22:52,638 --> 00:22:54,168 They won't find anything. 397 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,570 And we're done with it, you know? 398 00:22:55,641 --> 00:22:57,311 And I was ready to wipe my hands of it 399 00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:59,510 and say good-bye, good riddance. 400 00:23:01,914 --> 00:23:04,584 - Hi. Come on in. 401 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:06,780 - The parapsychologist himself came in first. 402 00:23:06,852 --> 00:23:08,322 - Jackie? - Yes. 403 00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:13,657 - After him came this whole herd of people carrying cameras. 404 00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:15,325 That was something I didn't expect. 405 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:16,664 It was like a circus. 406 00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:19,828 - Barry, where you gonna want the lights set up? 407 00:23:19,898 --> 00:23:22,468 - As a cameraman, I've been a professional videographer 408 00:23:22,534 --> 00:23:23,904 for many years. 409 00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:25,703 I thought, "well, you know, it's one thing 410 00:23:25,771 --> 00:23:29,111 "to go into a haunting and hear all of these stories, 411 00:23:29,108 --> 00:23:30,338 "but it's another thing 412 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:32,129 if we could capture something on videotape." 413 00:23:32,178 --> 00:23:33,578 I think any cameraman worth his salt 414 00:23:33,645 --> 00:23:34,975 would say the same thing. 415 00:23:34,981 --> 00:23:36,711 - How's that? You think that's a good angle? 416 00:23:36,782 --> 00:23:39,052 - I think that's good, yeah. 417 00:23:39,117 --> 00:23:40,397 - They already had it pre-planned 418 00:23:40,452 --> 00:23:41,502 what they were going to do. 419 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,190 They never informed me of it. 420 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:46,085 They were going to document it. 421 00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:47,358 - I'm sorry. 422 00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:48,526 I'm still a little confused 423 00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:51,134 as to what's going on. 424 00:23:51,196 --> 00:23:52,476 - Just gonna do a quick interview 425 00:23:52,531 --> 00:23:54,331 and have you tell us some of the amazing stuff 426 00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:57,066 that you've been experiencing here in the house. 427 00:23:57,135 --> 00:23:58,335 - I did not want it documented. 428 00:23:58,337 --> 00:23:59,797 I wanted it out of my house. 429 00:23:59,872 --> 00:24:00,902 I wanted it gone. 430 00:24:00,973 --> 00:24:04,143 I wanted normality. 431 00:24:07,847 --> 00:24:09,777 - So, Jackie, why don't you tell us a little bit 432 00:24:09,848 --> 00:24:13,448 about what's going on? 433 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:15,549 - Jackie herself seemed scared. 434 00:24:15,621 --> 00:24:17,321 We wanted to find out 435 00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:19,059 what her experiences were in the house. 436 00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:21,394 - You can feel a presence? You can sense a presence? 437 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:22,490 - Yeah. 438 00:24:26,498 --> 00:24:29,668 - One of the paranormal team was very skeptical. 439 00:24:29,735 --> 00:24:31,165 You could tell by the look on his face. 440 00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:33,270 And Barry Conrad was just the opposite. 441 00:24:33,338 --> 00:24:34,668 - Something you can't explain. 442 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:36,710 - Yeah, there's just... 443 00:24:36,775 --> 00:24:38,005 There's something wrong. 444 00:24:38,077 --> 00:24:40,307 There's something here all the time. 445 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,715 - All of a sudden, the light goes off. 446 00:24:45,784 --> 00:24:46,944 - Right during the interview. 447 00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:55,826 - Problem with the power? 448 00:24:55,894 --> 00:24:57,174 - You know, they're just thinking 449 00:24:57,229 --> 00:24:58,399 maybe the electricity went out. 450 00:24:58,397 --> 00:24:59,797 Maybe there was a fuse or whatever. 451 00:24:59,865 --> 00:25:02,765 And I knew... I knew exactly what it was. 452 00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:08,308 He was angry that these people were in the house, 453 00:25:08,373 --> 00:25:09,413 and I just knew that. 454 00:25:13,211 --> 00:25:15,151 Then the light goes back on. 455 00:25:15,213 --> 00:25:16,453 - Okay. 456 00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:17,805 - It's coming from up there. 457 00:25:17,883 --> 00:25:20,323 - I told them about the noises I've heard in the attic. 458 00:25:20,385 --> 00:25:23,285 - From the attic? - Yeah. 459 00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:24,815 - So I remember asking my friend, 460 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:26,420 who was a still photographer, 461 00:25:26,424 --> 00:25:30,534 if he might want to go up there and take a few photos. 462 00:25:30,596 --> 00:25:31,696 - Sure. Why not? 463 00:25:31,763 --> 00:25:33,263 What else are we here for? Let's go. 464 00:25:38,236 --> 00:25:40,496 - He was the one who was very skeptical. 465 00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:41,816 - In fact, he whispered in my ear, 466 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,350 he says, "it'll be a cool drink in hell 467 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,695 before I ever believe that there is a ghost in this house." 468 00:25:52,451 --> 00:25:54,381 - You got enough space up there? 469 00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:56,653 - Oh, yeah, there's a lot of space. 470 00:25:56,722 --> 00:25:58,442 - I was laying there just kind of listening. 471 00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:59,690 I was wide awake. 472 00:25:59,758 --> 00:26:01,958 I wasn't sleeping or anything like that. 473 00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:04,697 - Nothing but spider webs. 474 00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:13,344 - I'm getting goose bumps 475 00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:17,035 because I can recall that moment. 476 00:26:17,109 --> 00:26:22,109 I heard something whisper into my ear so clearly. 477 00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:27,020 - Tell them to get the hell out of here. 478 00:26:31,323 --> 00:26:33,663 - Seconds after I heard this, 479 00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:35,855 I heard someone yell from the attic. 480 00:26:35,861 --> 00:26:38,301 - [Yelling] 481 00:27:02,588 --> 00:27:07,118 - I heard something whisper into my ear so clearly, 482 00:27:07,192 --> 00:27:10,132 "tell them to get the hell outta here." 483 00:27:13,231 --> 00:27:14,301 - [Yelling] 484 00:27:14,366 --> 00:27:17,126 - My friend comes bolting down, 485 00:27:17,202 --> 00:27:19,302 all of the color drained out of him. 486 00:27:19,371 --> 00:27:20,741 - Something just grabbed the camera 487 00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:21,736 right out of my hand, man, 488 00:27:21,807 --> 00:27:22,937 pulled it right out of my hand. 489 00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:24,522 - You sure you didn't, like, just drop it 490 00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:25,543 or catch it on something? 491 00:27:25,577 --> 00:27:27,507 - Something grabbed my camera. 492 00:27:27,579 --> 00:27:29,179 - All of a sudden, all that skepticism 493 00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:33,148 that he had before was gone, erased. 494 00:27:33,218 --> 00:27:35,618 - He was really, really scared, 495 00:27:35,688 --> 00:27:38,658 but I think that his concern for his livelihood 496 00:27:38,724 --> 00:27:40,564 overcame his fear because this was, you know... 497 00:27:40,626 --> 00:27:41,866 This was how he made his living. 498 00:27:41,893 --> 00:27:42,963 He was a still photographer. 499 00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:44,902 - I got to get that camera, man. 500 00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:46,063 It's a $2,000 camera. 501 00:27:46,131 --> 00:27:47,531 I've got to get it. 502 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,969 - I'll come with you. I'll be right behind you, okay? 503 00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:52,635 - He decided to go back up into the attic to find his camera. 504 00:28:03,782 --> 00:28:06,182 - I put up a 1,000-watt light. 505 00:28:06,251 --> 00:28:09,321 I wanted see every nook and cranny of the attic. 506 00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:12,117 - You don't see anything? 507 00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:14,390 - No, nothing yet. 508 00:28:14,459 --> 00:28:17,159 I don't see the camera anywhere. 509 00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:25,504 - I don't think I shot more than a minute. 510 00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:27,440 The camera completely neutralized. 511 00:28:27,506 --> 00:28:28,946 - Can you change the battery on that? 512 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:32,840 - So they changed the battery. 513 00:28:32,911 --> 00:28:34,311 And it worked just fine downstairs, 514 00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:35,779 but they pulled it through the hole, 515 00:28:35,847 --> 00:28:37,157 and it wouldn't work at all again. 516 00:28:37,182 --> 00:28:38,922 - I'm still not getting anything on here. 517 00:28:38,984 --> 00:28:40,424 - I thought, "well, how can this be?" 518 00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:42,192 - Is this the new battery? - Yup. 519 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:48,629 - I got it. 520 00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:50,294 - You found it? - Yeah. 521 00:28:50,362 --> 00:28:52,732 - They finally did find the body of the camera 522 00:28:52,798 --> 00:28:54,128 on one corner of the attic. 523 00:28:54,199 --> 00:28:59,139 - It was lying facedown in a little crate. 524 00:28:59,204 --> 00:29:03,514 The lens had been removed. 525 00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:04,705 - I got the lens here. 526 00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:08,176 - We found the lens behind the trapdoor. 527 00:29:11,483 --> 00:29:12,723 - So what do we do now? 528 00:29:12,784 --> 00:29:14,264 - Well, we take things back to the lab. 529 00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:15,286 We... 530 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,360 [clattering] 531 00:29:20,358 --> 00:29:23,058 - All of a sudden, it's like somebody is walking 532 00:29:23,128 --> 00:29:24,898 back and forth up above us. 533 00:29:28,233 --> 00:29:29,803 - I knew I'd just been up there. 534 00:29:29,868 --> 00:29:31,468 My friend had just been up there. 535 00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:34,440 And there was nobody up in that attic whatsoever. 536 00:29:43,982 --> 00:29:45,482 - Did you get that on tape? 537 00:29:45,550 --> 00:29:47,320 - Yeah. 538 00:29:47,385 --> 00:29:50,245 - We did one final interview with Jackie. 539 00:29:50,322 --> 00:29:51,792 - I got to go. 540 00:29:51,857 --> 00:29:54,787 - The whole thing was very frightening. 541 00:29:55,861 --> 00:29:57,261 I remember telling my friend, 542 00:29:57,329 --> 00:29:59,299 "I think we better get out of here." 543 00:29:59,298 --> 00:30:00,628 - It was unbelievable to me 544 00:30:00,699 --> 00:30:02,699 that they were getting ready to go and walk out. 545 00:30:02,768 --> 00:30:04,498 - So you're just gonna leave me here? 546 00:30:04,569 --> 00:30:05,969 - Sorry, lady. 547 00:30:06,037 --> 00:30:08,277 - They were gonna get the proof that it was in the house, 548 00:30:08,306 --> 00:30:09,546 and then they were gonna leave? 549 00:30:09,575 --> 00:30:11,465 They were gonna rile this up and leave? 550 00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:12,713 - Wait... - Thank you very much. 551 00:30:12,711 --> 00:30:14,141 We'll be back. Don't worry. 552 00:30:14,212 --> 00:30:15,812 There's nothing to worry about. 553 00:30:15,881 --> 00:30:19,451 - I started questioning why I even called them. 554 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,070 - I got back to my apartment 555 00:30:38,136 --> 00:30:40,096 and started looking at the videotapes. 556 00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:41,871 - Here. - Hear it? 557 00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:43,910 - Something's walking back and forth up there. 558 00:30:43,975 --> 00:30:46,275 It is walking, definitely. 559 00:30:46,344 --> 00:30:47,384 Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! 560 00:30:47,379 --> 00:30:48,379 Quiet! 561 00:30:48,413 --> 00:30:51,113 [Footsteps thunking] 562 00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:52,422 It was amazing. 563 00:30:52,484 --> 00:30:55,324 There was these footsteps coming from above us. 564 00:30:57,088 --> 00:30:59,158 I felt like these were part and parcel 565 00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:01,324 to whatever this haunting was. 566 00:31:01,393 --> 00:31:04,363 [Footsteps thunking] 567 00:31:04,429 --> 00:31:08,929 I was extremely frightened by what I had witnessed. 568 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,070 Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! 569 00:31:10,135 --> 00:31:11,135 Quiet! 570 00:31:12,771 --> 00:31:14,051 - [Over TV] Well, I didn't think 571 00:31:14,072 --> 00:31:15,442 it was anything you needed to know. 572 00:31:15,507 --> 00:31:18,677 - Oh, I'm beginning to understand what's going on here. 573 00:31:18,743 --> 00:31:21,213 - The very last night I stayed at that house, 574 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,379 I was on the couch watching TV, 575 00:31:23,448 --> 00:31:25,578 and I had both of the kids right next to me. 576 00:31:25,584 --> 00:31:27,764 - [Over TV] I haven't even had a chance to take a shower, 577 00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:29,426 and some lawyer starts knocking on my door 578 00:31:29,454 --> 00:31:31,724 to serve me with divorce papers. 579 00:31:31,790 --> 00:31:34,960 [Chiming and whirring] 580 00:31:35,026 --> 00:31:36,926 - There was noises coming from the bedroom, 581 00:31:36,995 --> 00:31:38,665 and it sounded as if something was in there 582 00:31:38,697 --> 00:31:41,057 playing with my kids' toys. 583 00:31:45,404 --> 00:31:47,444 [Chiming and whirring stops] 584 00:31:49,507 --> 00:31:51,207 A beach ball comes out of the room 585 00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:52,556 as if somebody just threw it out. 586 00:31:56,982 --> 00:32:00,652 I knew I wasn't gonna be going to sleep that night. 587 00:32:03,054 --> 00:32:04,694 I closed my eyes for a minute, 588 00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:05,916 not to go to sleep, 589 00:32:05,991 --> 00:32:07,861 but just to rest them for a second. 590 00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:10,426 [Bead curtain rattling] 591 00:32:17,102 --> 00:32:20,042 [Clock ticking] 592 00:32:22,508 --> 00:32:24,978 Something was holding me down. 593 00:32:25,043 --> 00:32:26,513 I couldn't breathe. 594 00:32:28,714 --> 00:32:32,654 I tried to get up, but I couldn't. 595 00:32:32,718 --> 00:32:34,478 I thought I was gonna die. 596 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:56,170 - Something was holding me down. 597 00:32:56,241 --> 00:32:58,011 I couldn't breathe. 598 00:32:58,076 --> 00:33:01,946 I tried to get up, but I couldn't. 599 00:33:02,013 --> 00:33:05,023 I began to think, "oh, my gosh, the kids." 600 00:33:10,889 --> 00:33:12,059 Then it let go. 601 00:33:12,123 --> 00:33:15,463 - [Gasping] 602 00:33:15,527 --> 00:33:18,397 [Panting] 603 00:33:18,463 --> 00:33:25,603 - [Eerie whispering] Jackie... 604 00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:31,784 - I had a baseball bat. 605 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:34,013 Something snapped inside of me. 606 00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:36,009 I just took the bat and just said, "I had it." 607 00:33:36,081 --> 00:33:37,451 I had enough." 608 00:33:52,163 --> 00:33:56,433 I was expecting him to appear just like every turn I made. 609 00:34:10,915 --> 00:34:12,845 [Creaking] 610 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,820 I realized that that old man's domain was the attic. 611 00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:23,362 That was his space. 612 00:34:25,196 --> 00:34:28,666 I wanted to fight for the house that I was paying to rent. 613 00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:30,233 I wanted it to be me and the kids 614 00:34:30,301 --> 00:34:33,841 and nothing else in that house. 615 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:37,465 That's what drove me up there. 616 00:34:37,542 --> 00:34:40,282 Even though it wasn't a very smart thing to do, 617 00:34:40,345 --> 00:34:43,175 I was just fighting for what was mine. 618 00:34:46,118 --> 00:34:49,118 That was the first time I've ever went into the attic. 619 00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:55,330 - [Panting] 620 00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:02,733 [Wood creaking] 621 00:35:06,938 --> 00:35:09,208 Come on and show yourself! 622 00:35:09,274 --> 00:35:11,174 - I was confronting it and challenging it. 623 00:35:11,176 --> 00:35:12,206 - Come on. 624 00:35:12,277 --> 00:35:13,537 - At least give me a fight 625 00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:15,681 instead of suffocating me when I'm sleeping. 626 00:35:15,747 --> 00:35:17,647 - Where are you? 627 00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:22,416 Come on. 628 00:35:24,022 --> 00:35:25,562 [Wood creaking] 629 00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:35,529 [Shrieks] 630 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,970 - I fell to the floor. 631 00:35:42,941 --> 00:35:45,611 I just grabbed the kids and just ran out of the house. 632 00:35:50,014 --> 00:35:52,654 I was worried I wasn't being able to protect my kids. 633 00:35:52,717 --> 00:35:56,417 I was worried that something would happen to me 634 00:35:56,487 --> 00:35:59,917 and they would find me dead... 635 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,591 Or that I would find them dead. 636 00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:05,261 [Phone beeping] 637 00:36:05,264 --> 00:36:08,304 [Line trilling] 638 00:36:08,366 --> 00:36:10,296 [Phone ringing] 639 00:36:10,302 --> 00:36:11,402 [Machine beeps] 640 00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:13,373 - We're not here. Leave a message. 641 00:36:13,438 --> 00:36:15,868 - Barry, it's Jackie. 642 00:36:15,941 --> 00:36:17,071 - Jackie? 643 00:36:17,141 --> 00:36:19,681 - Suddenly Jackie called my answering machine. 644 00:36:19,744 --> 00:36:20,914 - Jackie, is that you? 645 00:36:20,979 --> 00:36:22,509 - Please, you got to come help me. 646 00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:24,510 - Absolutely terrified out of her mind. 647 00:36:24,516 --> 00:36:25,676 - Please, you have to come now. 648 00:36:25,684 --> 00:36:26,954 There's something in the house. 649 00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:29,018 - As she was talking, 650 00:36:29,087 --> 00:36:31,047 she suddenly cried out, and she dropped the phone. 651 00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:32,719 - And all of a sudden, the line is cut. 652 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:34,320 [Dial tone humming] 653 00:36:34,392 --> 00:36:35,392 - Jackie? 654 00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:36,740 - We're like, "Jackie?" You know? 655 00:36:36,794 --> 00:36:38,134 "Are you there, Jackie?" You know? 656 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:39,266 We didn't know what happened 657 00:36:39,297 --> 00:36:40,707 'cause she was no longer on the line. 658 00:36:40,732 --> 00:36:42,012 - We were so concerned about her 659 00:36:42,066 --> 00:36:44,066 we decided that we better go down and check it out. 660 00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:51,750 - I had thought they were gonna take me out of the house, 661 00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:53,176 so I was ready to leave. 662 00:36:53,244 --> 00:36:55,444 - Please, there's... no, there's something in the house. 663 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,360 Please, we need to go now. - Okay, just calm down. 664 00:36:57,382 --> 00:36:58,822 - They bring out all their equipment, 665 00:36:58,850 --> 00:37:00,250 their video cameras and everything, 666 00:37:00,318 --> 00:37:01,478 and they go into the house, 667 00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:05,092 and I'm thinking, "what are they doing?" 668 00:37:05,156 --> 00:37:06,756 - We were all curious. 669 00:37:06,824 --> 00:37:08,224 We wanted to know whether the entity 670 00:37:08,293 --> 00:37:10,333 really was in the house that night. 671 00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:16,466 - To me, it was my life, 672 00:37:16,534 --> 00:37:19,574 and to them, it was making a movie. 673 00:37:19,637 --> 00:37:21,867 - I don't hear a thing. 674 00:37:21,939 --> 00:37:23,149 - When we walked into the house, 675 00:37:23,174 --> 00:37:24,744 there was not a sign of anything. 676 00:37:24,809 --> 00:37:28,239 - You want to go upstairs and check out the attic? 677 00:37:28,313 --> 00:37:29,753 - The attic? 678 00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:32,148 - Yeah. 679 00:37:32,216 --> 00:37:33,816 - The same photographer who was... 680 00:37:33,885 --> 00:37:36,245 Already had an incident up in the attic, 681 00:37:36,321 --> 00:37:38,891 he decides to go up again into the attic. 682 00:37:38,956 --> 00:37:41,856 - The photographer had a flashlight. 683 00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:44,286 Barry handed me just a small instamatic camera. 684 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:49,906 - And I think when they first went up there, 685 00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:51,674 they didn't really expect anything to happen 686 00:37:51,736 --> 00:37:53,596 because it was so quiet downstairs. 687 00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:02,008 - It was pitch-black up there. 688 00:38:11,856 --> 00:38:13,216 There was absolutely nothing there. 689 00:38:13,258 --> 00:38:16,528 There was nothing in this attic. 690 00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:18,964 - What's goin' on up there? 691 00:38:27,605 --> 00:38:30,535 [Fingers snapping] 692 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:40,250 - There was this snapping sound, 693 00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:42,318 like somebody snapped their fingers. 694 00:38:42,387 --> 00:38:46,017 Just like that three times. 695 00:38:46,024 --> 00:38:49,334 - The sensation of being watched overcame me. 696 00:38:49,394 --> 00:38:51,764 It was really getting stronger. 697 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:53,599 - Something was gonna happen. I knew it. 698 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:54,664 - You need to come down. 699 00:38:54,699 --> 00:38:56,029 They need to come down right now. 700 00:38:56,101 --> 00:38:58,941 - I start to panic, and I yell, "get down, please!" 701 00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:00,383 - I think you guys better come down. 702 00:39:00,405 --> 00:39:02,035 - They just started yelling and hollering, 703 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,640 "get down here! You gotta get down here!" 704 00:39:03,642 --> 00:39:04,742 There was just pandemonium. 705 00:39:04,743 --> 00:39:06,023 - You guys need to get down here. 706 00:39:06,043 --> 00:39:07,443 - "You got to come down. Come down now. 707 00:39:07,446 --> 00:39:08,776 There's something going on." 708 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:10,680 - Guys, you got to come down. - Please come down. 709 00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:12,622 - The photographer was literally right behind me, 710 00:39:12,683 --> 00:39:14,233 and I was looking down into the opening. 711 00:39:14,252 --> 00:39:15,252 - What's going on? 712 00:39:15,286 --> 00:39:16,646 - Seriously, guys, I'm not joking. 713 00:39:16,721 --> 00:39:17,651 Get down here right away. 714 00:39:17,656 --> 00:39:20,716 - We need to get out of here, please? 715 00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:24,062 - It was like he was lifted through the air. 716 00:39:37,442 --> 00:39:40,482 - Guys, you okay? 717 00:39:40,545 --> 00:39:42,075 What's going on up there? 718 00:39:45,283 --> 00:39:47,783 - Are you all right? 719 00:39:47,852 --> 00:39:52,562 - There was no response from him. 720 00:39:52,623 --> 00:39:56,763 - He was 10, 15 feet off into the distance. 721 00:39:56,828 --> 00:39:58,488 I could tell he was not standing upright. 722 00:39:58,497 --> 00:39:59,697 Very odd, you know? 723 00:39:59,764 --> 00:40:01,304 It's like, "why would he be like that?" 724 00:40:05,136 --> 00:40:06,296 The only source of light I had 725 00:40:06,303 --> 00:40:08,543 was this little flash on this little camera. 726 00:40:11,943 --> 00:40:13,943 He was completely off the floor of the attic. 727 00:40:13,945 --> 00:40:15,475 His head was off on the opposite angle, 728 00:40:15,546 --> 00:40:18,146 because he was up against the inside of the roof. 729 00:40:20,551 --> 00:40:22,721 There was this completely blank expression on his face. 730 00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:28,487 Like... and his eyes were open, but he was not there. 731 00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:29,729 Very vaguely, he said... 732 00:40:29,794 --> 00:40:31,804 - There's something on my neck. 733 00:40:34,266 --> 00:40:36,296 - It was a noose. 734 00:40:36,367 --> 00:40:38,177 There was no way he could've done this himself. 735 00:40:38,202 --> 00:40:39,482 I mean, there wasn't enough time. 736 00:40:39,537 --> 00:40:40,677 It had happened just like that. 737 00:40:40,705 --> 00:40:42,105 - Guys, what's going on up there? 738 00:40:47,912 --> 00:40:49,252 - He's absolutely terrified. 739 00:40:49,313 --> 00:40:51,153 - [Choking] 740 00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:52,516 - What happened? 741 00:40:52,583 --> 00:40:54,983 - He's still got the thing around his neck, 742 00:40:55,052 --> 00:40:57,552 and his neck is all swollen, and it's red. 743 00:40:57,622 --> 00:40:59,122 - [Coughing and sputtering] 744 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:01,170 - He just had no reaction any of this happened to him, 745 00:41:01,192 --> 00:41:02,372 and it was like it's something 746 00:41:02,393 --> 00:41:03,763 that he didn't even know happened. 747 00:41:03,828 --> 00:41:05,298 It was like blank in his memory. 748 00:41:05,363 --> 00:41:06,543 - We need to get out of here now. 749 00:41:06,564 --> 00:41:07,834 We need to go, please! 750 00:41:07,899 --> 00:41:09,879 - At that point, I just wanted to get out of the house 751 00:41:09,901 --> 00:41:10,971 right then, right there. 752 00:41:11,035 --> 00:41:13,695 - We have to go! Can you carry him, please? 753 00:41:13,705 --> 00:41:15,665 - That was the last night I spent in that house. 754 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:33,990 - To this day, I am mystified by what happened in the house. 755 00:41:35,593 --> 00:41:37,763 I really truly believe we were dealing with 756 00:41:37,762 --> 00:41:39,962 some kind of entity. 757 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,030 - I never thought I would ever experience 758 00:41:44,102 --> 00:41:45,742 something like this, no. 759 00:41:45,737 --> 00:41:46,937 - Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! 760 00:41:47,004 --> 00:41:48,304 Quiet! 761 00:41:48,372 --> 00:41:53,112 [Footsteps thunking] 762 00:41:53,177 --> 00:41:57,377 - I'm not gonna tell you that I believe in ghosts now, 763 00:41:57,448 --> 00:42:00,978 but I most definitely have opened my mind 764 00:42:01,052 --> 00:42:03,052 to the possibility. 765 00:42:21,072 --> 00:42:23,142 - The light. - The light.