1 00:00:09,943 --> 00:00:12,883 [Police siren wailing] 2 00:00:16,450 --> 00:00:19,080 - There was something pulling me... 3 00:00:19,152 --> 00:00:20,552 [Eerie indistinct whispering] 4 00:00:20,620 --> 00:00:22,960 Up the mountain. 5 00:00:24,724 --> 00:00:26,294 - Chris would come back from the grave 6 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:27,629 just to protect him. 7 00:00:31,298 --> 00:00:34,428 - I really don't know what it was. 8 00:00:34,501 --> 00:00:36,841 I can't explain it. 9 00:00:36,903 --> 00:00:40,073 - I said, "nobody's gonna believe what's happening." 10 00:00:41,374 --> 00:00:43,414 [Eerie voice whispering] 11 00:00:43,477 --> 00:00:46,807 - She had premonitions before, but this was so real. 12 00:00:49,983 --> 00:00:51,653 - Whoa! 13 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:53,218 - She died on impact. 14 00:00:53,286 --> 00:00:54,816 - [Crying] 15 00:00:54,888 --> 00:00:56,458 - I'm bringing us back around. 16 00:00:56,523 --> 00:00:57,523 It's behind us. 17 00:01:19,379 --> 00:01:21,309 [Eerie whispering] 18 00:01:24,184 --> 00:01:28,494 - We'd been visiting family in Sacramento. 19 00:01:28,555 --> 00:01:32,985 I had just sat up in bed and had this thing inside me 20 00:01:33,060 --> 00:01:34,760 that I needed to go home, 21 00:01:34,828 --> 00:01:37,728 and I needed to go home then. 22 00:01:37,797 --> 00:01:41,527 I just felt like there was something pulling me 23 00:01:41,602 --> 00:01:44,642 up the mountain. 24 00:01:44,704 --> 00:01:47,614 We jumped in the car. We drove. 25 00:01:47,674 --> 00:01:50,814 It was late. 26 00:01:50,877 --> 00:01:54,607 We're on highway 50. 27 00:01:54,615 --> 00:01:57,875 I don't like traveling the mountain at nighttime. 28 00:01:57,885 --> 00:02:03,255 It's a really windy and twisty road. 29 00:02:03,323 --> 00:02:08,433 You can go off the road. 30 00:02:08,495 --> 00:02:12,595 I was looking out the window. 31 00:02:12,666 --> 00:02:16,226 And as we're going around bullion bend, 32 00:02:16,237 --> 00:02:21,407 on the side of the road, I see this blackish white thing. 33 00:02:21,474 --> 00:02:25,444 And I didn't know what it was. 34 00:02:25,512 --> 00:02:27,012 And when I was right up on it, 35 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,050 I could tell that it was a woman. 36 00:02:32,118 --> 00:02:34,718 She was naked, totally naked, 37 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:37,458 and really white. 38 00:02:37,524 --> 00:02:40,464 I know that I saw her on that road. 39 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:56,070 [Delicate instrumental music] 40 00:02:56,143 --> 00:03:01,753 ♪ ♪ 41 00:03:01,749 --> 00:03:04,679 [Indistinct echoey voices] 42 00:03:14,394 --> 00:03:16,164 - All right, keep going. 43 00:03:16,163 --> 00:03:18,333 - What do you think grandpa is? - [Giggles] 44 00:03:18,398 --> 00:03:22,198 - I have two kids. Christine was the oldest. 45 00:03:22,269 --> 00:03:23,769 - It's a little slippy. 46 00:03:23,837 --> 00:03:26,807 - Christine was very bubbly, very outgoing, 47 00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:28,343 very independent. 48 00:03:28,408 --> 00:03:31,008 - Careful of the branch. - Oh, hold on! 49 00:03:31,078 --> 00:03:32,878 - Chris has a little boy, Nick. 50 00:03:32,946 --> 00:03:34,446 - Oh, you okay? - I got it. 51 00:03:34,514 --> 00:03:39,024 - She was a mother that every little boy would love to have. 52 00:03:39,085 --> 00:03:41,615 Both: One, two, three, Whoo! 53 00:03:41,622 --> 00:03:42,692 [Laughter] 54 00:03:42,756 --> 00:03:44,856 - Chris was really ambitious. 55 00:03:44,925 --> 00:03:49,325 She worked a couple jobs and put herself through college. 56 00:03:49,330 --> 00:03:54,270 And when she finally graduated, she got a job as a paralegal 57 00:03:54,334 --> 00:03:57,904 600 miles away down in southern California. 58 00:03:57,971 --> 00:03:59,641 - Oh, you guys have fun, huh? 59 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,340 - All right, I really gotta go. - Okay. 60 00:04:01,342 --> 00:04:03,442 - Finally the time came where she had to leave. 61 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:07,150 - Love you. Okay, have fun. 62 00:04:07,147 --> 00:04:09,377 - It was kind of sad... - Okay. 63 00:04:09,383 --> 00:04:12,583 - To see them go, but it was a happy time 64 00:04:12,653 --> 00:04:14,753 because she had what she worked for 65 00:04:14,755 --> 00:04:15,945 for so hard. 66 00:04:15,956 --> 00:04:17,356 - I'll see you guys later. 67 00:04:17,424 --> 00:04:18,424 [Together] All right, bye! 68 00:04:18,491 --> 00:04:19,761 - Drive safe! - See you! 69 00:04:19,826 --> 00:04:22,426 - Chris said she would call us in a couple days. 70 00:04:22,495 --> 00:04:25,095 And we said, "okay, no problem." 71 00:04:28,101 --> 00:04:31,071 [Telephone ringing] 72 00:04:31,137 --> 00:04:32,867 - [Groans] - Who is that? 73 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:37,639 - Wednesday morning, we got a call from a friend of Chris. 74 00:04:37,711 --> 00:04:38,781 - Hello? 75 00:04:38,779 --> 00:04:41,779 - She said, "hey, Chris isn't here. 76 00:04:41,848 --> 00:04:43,758 She was supposed to be here. Don't you guys care?" 77 00:04:43,784 --> 00:04:45,624 And I said, "well, what are you talking about?" 78 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:47,989 - She's made her way down to southern California. 79 00:04:47,988 --> 00:04:50,988 - And she goes, "well, she was supposed to be here Monday, 80 00:04:51,057 --> 00:04:53,187 and here it's Wednesday morning." 81 00:04:53,193 --> 00:04:56,333 - Yes, yes, I'm trying to track down my daughter. 82 00:04:56,396 --> 00:05:00,566 - Then, you know, we started getting a little worried. 83 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:02,403 They could be anywhere. 84 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:04,939 - I'm wondering if you have records... 85 00:05:05,004 --> 00:05:07,814 - Called the hospitals. 86 00:05:07,874 --> 00:05:09,414 We called the police department. 87 00:05:09,476 --> 00:05:12,406 - Yeah, I'd like to report a missing person. 88 00:05:12,413 --> 00:05:16,653 - Their response was, "well, that's only 48 hours, 89 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:21,020 and we get 200 calls like that a week." 90 00:05:21,087 --> 00:05:23,387 They more or less said, "well, she'll show up. 91 00:05:23,456 --> 00:05:26,556 Don't worry about it." 92 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:35,170 - The first time I heard about this case, 93 00:05:35,235 --> 00:05:38,065 I was working for the El dorado county sheriff's department. 94 00:05:38,138 --> 00:05:41,008 And my assignment at the time was working patrol... 95 00:05:41,074 --> 00:05:42,574 Graveyard patrol shift. 96 00:05:42,642 --> 00:05:44,782 - We got a missing person. 97 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:48,414 We got an adult female traveling with a young boy. 98 00:05:48,481 --> 00:05:50,321 Unknown direction of travel. 99 00:05:50,383 --> 00:05:52,623 - The case with Christine initially was just 100 00:05:52,685 --> 00:05:55,115 a mother and her son who were moving to southern California. 101 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:57,228 - The family has no idea where they might have gone. 102 00:05:57,290 --> 00:05:59,140 - There's people reported missing all the time... 103 00:05:59,159 --> 00:06:01,059 You know, every day throughout this country. 104 00:06:01,127 --> 00:06:03,087 - Also got an assault with a knife. 105 00:06:03,163 --> 00:06:05,533 - There was nothing out of the ordinary. 106 00:06:05,598 --> 00:06:08,228 I thought it was just another... I hate to say it... 107 00:06:08,301 --> 00:06:10,741 But a routine missing persons report. 108 00:06:10,804 --> 00:06:14,244 - It was like, "okay, what do we do now?" 109 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:25,946 We were handing out fliers, 110 00:06:26,019 --> 00:06:29,349 and we went to every place... 111 00:06:29,422 --> 00:06:31,992 Whether it was a restaurant, a home, 112 00:06:32,058 --> 00:06:35,488 gas station, shopping markets. 113 00:06:35,562 --> 00:06:37,962 We told people that our daughter's been missing 114 00:06:38,031 --> 00:06:40,671 for three days. 115 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:44,303 And if they had seen her, 116 00:06:44,370 --> 00:06:47,310 please call us. 117 00:07:13,299 --> 00:07:16,229 - [Gasping] 118 00:07:19,239 --> 00:07:21,639 [Telephone ringing] 119 00:07:21,708 --> 00:07:24,078 - We were at home when the phone rang, 120 00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:27,514 and it was my sister-in-law, 600 miles away. 121 00:07:27,580 --> 00:07:29,010 - Hi, Karen. 122 00:07:29,082 --> 00:07:31,322 - Dave? I just had an awful dream. 123 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:35,494 - She calls kind of frantic 124 00:07:35,555 --> 00:07:37,155 and said she had a dream. 125 00:07:37,223 --> 00:07:42,693 - It was dark. There was lights. 126 00:07:42,762 --> 00:07:45,732 - She could see Nicky, 127 00:07:45,732 --> 00:07:48,532 some lights, she said. 128 00:07:48,601 --> 00:07:51,671 - No, Chrissy wasn't in it. It was just Nicky. 129 00:07:51,738 --> 00:07:56,608 And the number 16 kept popping up over and over. 130 00:07:56,676 --> 00:08:01,376 It was, like, two, three times, I kept seeing this number 16. 131 00:08:01,381 --> 00:08:06,051 - She kept seeing a number 16 popping up. 132 00:08:06,119 --> 00:08:08,819 At the time, I didn't know what "16" meant. 133 00:08:08,888 --> 00:08:10,258 - Just try to stay calm. 134 00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:12,333 - The dream was vivid enough that she believed in it. 135 00:08:12,358 --> 00:08:14,258 - Yeah, but I have to come down to see you. 136 00:08:14,327 --> 00:08:17,227 - She had premonitions before, but this was so real, 137 00:08:17,297 --> 00:08:20,267 she knew that she was gonna find them. 138 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:32,479 [Indistinct radio transmission] 139 00:08:35,448 --> 00:08:38,578 - On Friday, I was approached by the detective 140 00:08:38,651 --> 00:08:40,521 that had been assigned to this case. 141 00:08:40,587 --> 00:08:42,717 And he suspected that perhaps 142 00:08:42,789 --> 00:08:45,889 she stopped at one of the all-night, 24-hour gas stations 143 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:50,359 in placerville to fill up her car. 144 00:08:50,430 --> 00:08:52,400 There was, I believe, four gas stations 145 00:08:52,465 --> 00:08:54,395 in this immediate area we were looking for. 146 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:57,267 And I began asking them if they had any recollection 147 00:08:57,337 --> 00:09:00,097 of seeing this girl, this vehicle, 148 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:03,643 if anything sounded familiar or similar to them. 149 00:09:07,981 --> 00:09:10,751 I remember going to the gas station in placerville, 150 00:09:10,817 --> 00:09:14,717 and I specifically recall going in and the clerk... 151 00:09:14,787 --> 00:09:16,787 He was a younger guy that worked there. 152 00:09:16,856 --> 00:09:18,336 - This area about two, three days ago. 153 00:09:18,391 --> 00:09:20,021 - Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember seeing them. 154 00:09:20,093 --> 00:09:21,293 - You saw them. - Yeah. 155 00:09:21,361 --> 00:09:22,361 He remembered her. 156 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:25,425 - When? - Uh, a few days ago? 157 00:09:25,498 --> 00:09:27,168 - And he recalled the car. 158 00:09:27,167 --> 00:09:29,697 He remembered a little boy was with her. 159 00:09:29,769 --> 00:09:31,699 - Her son just waited in the car. 160 00:09:31,771 --> 00:09:33,371 - He didn't know the license plate. 161 00:09:33,439 --> 00:09:34,909 He didn't know if it matched, but the girl, 162 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:36,838 the picture that was on the flier, 163 00:09:36,909 --> 00:09:38,989 seemed to resemble the girl that he remembered having 164 00:09:39,045 --> 00:09:40,605 a conversation with. 165 00:09:57,630 --> 00:09:59,760 - Reported to come by this area two or three days ago. 166 00:09:59,832 --> 00:10:01,412 - Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember seeing them. 167 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:02,634 - You saw them? - Yeah. 168 00:10:02,702 --> 00:10:04,372 - He remembered her. He recalled the car. 169 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:07,137 He remembered a little boy was with her. 170 00:10:11,544 --> 00:10:14,084 - Hello. How are you tonight? 171 00:10:14,147 --> 00:10:16,377 - He said that she bought a couple sodas, 172 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:18,529 and they had some small talk... "where are you off to?" 173 00:10:18,551 --> 00:10:20,451 - I'm going to California for a new job. 174 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,420 - And he remembers her saying she's really tired, 175 00:10:23,489 --> 00:10:24,789 but she's got to make the drive. 176 00:10:24,857 --> 00:10:26,617 She's gonna go up and see a friend, you know, 177 00:10:26,659 --> 00:10:28,829 and having to make that drive up highway 50. 178 00:10:28,895 --> 00:10:32,095 He remembered specifically two things in particular: 179 00:10:32,165 --> 00:10:34,765 Her being tired and her having to drive 180 00:10:34,768 --> 00:10:36,898 through these windy mountain roads to go up there 181 00:10:36,969 --> 00:10:39,799 to go see a friend. 182 00:10:39,872 --> 00:10:41,542 - Thanks. 183 00:10:41,541 --> 00:10:44,941 - All kinds of things entered my mind. 184 00:10:45,011 --> 00:10:47,751 She could have been involved in an accident. 185 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:49,214 She could've driven off the road. 186 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:50,772 She could've had car trouble, 187 00:10:50,767 --> 00:10:53,547 and somebody else could've, you know, stopped to help her, 188 00:10:53,553 --> 00:10:56,353 and ended up taking her and the car. 189 00:10:56,356 --> 00:10:59,116 We were concerned that, did she maybe get into an accident? 190 00:10:59,192 --> 00:11:01,932 Did she meet with some foul play? 191 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:04,934 I mean, any number of things could've happened. 192 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:25,522 [Eerie whispering] 193 00:11:29,789 --> 00:11:32,689 - [Sighs] 194 00:11:35,027 --> 00:11:37,297 - We'd been visiting family in Sacramento. 195 00:11:37,363 --> 00:11:41,103 And around 2:00, I woke my husband up 196 00:11:41,167 --> 00:11:45,267 and told him I needed to go home. 197 00:11:45,338 --> 00:11:48,508 I literally started shaking him awake. 198 00:11:48,574 --> 00:11:50,114 - We need to go. - What? What for? 199 00:11:50,176 --> 00:11:53,106 - I need to go home. - Can't we just go tomorrow? 200 00:11:53,179 --> 00:11:55,579 - And he was saying, "well, can't we wait until tomorrow?" 201 00:11:55,648 --> 00:11:57,048 And I said, "no, I want to go now." 202 00:11:57,117 --> 00:12:00,117 - What's the matter? - I don't know. 203 00:12:00,186 --> 00:12:03,316 - I needed to leave right now. 204 00:12:03,389 --> 00:12:05,889 Normally I would've just went back to sleep, 205 00:12:05,958 --> 00:12:09,058 but I just... 206 00:12:09,128 --> 00:12:11,728 Kept bothering him until he finally said okay. 207 00:12:11,798 --> 00:12:14,728 - Okay, we'll go. 208 00:12:19,806 --> 00:12:23,536 - I just felt like there was something pulling me 209 00:12:23,609 --> 00:12:25,609 up the mountain. 210 00:12:31,918 --> 00:12:36,248 When you drive from Sacramento to lake Tahoe, 211 00:12:36,322 --> 00:12:38,922 it turns into the mountains. 212 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,401 We're on highway 50. 213 00:12:44,463 --> 00:12:47,573 It was odd because I don't like traveling the mountain 214 00:12:47,633 --> 00:12:49,473 at nighttime. 215 00:12:49,535 --> 00:12:53,935 It's really a windy and twisty road. 216 00:12:54,006 --> 00:12:57,636 And you can go off the road. 217 00:12:57,710 --> 00:13:02,210 I was looking out the window. 218 00:13:02,281 --> 00:13:06,121 And as we're going around bullion bend, 219 00:13:06,185 --> 00:13:09,885 on the side of the road, I see this blackish white thing. 220 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:14,156 And I didn't know what it was. 221 00:13:14,227 --> 00:13:15,657 And when I was right up on it, 222 00:13:15,728 --> 00:13:20,968 I could tell that it was a woman. 223 00:13:21,033 --> 00:13:23,333 She was naked, totally naked, 224 00:13:23,402 --> 00:13:26,202 and really white. 225 00:13:26,206 --> 00:13:28,266 I can see her body, 226 00:13:28,341 --> 00:13:30,811 and I can see that it was a woman... 227 00:13:30,877 --> 00:13:35,607 But I could not see her shadow. 228 00:13:35,681 --> 00:13:37,781 - I just saw a dead woman on the side of the road! 229 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:39,180 - What? What? 230 00:13:39,252 --> 00:13:40,252 Do you want me to stop? 231 00:13:40,319 --> 00:13:42,589 - My husband wanted to stop. 232 00:13:42,655 --> 00:13:44,285 And he said he was gonna go back 233 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:46,657 'cause he could probably help her. 234 00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:48,456 What if she wasn't dead, and I'd told him, 235 00:13:48,527 --> 00:13:51,827 no, I didn't want to go back. 236 00:13:51,898 --> 00:13:53,728 She may be a ploy, you know. 237 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:57,469 What if somebody was in the woods waiting to come out 238 00:13:57,536 --> 00:13:59,866 and then take our car, or take us with the car, 239 00:13:59,939 --> 00:14:04,779 or kill us? 240 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:08,154 I asked him to please find the nearest phone. 241 00:14:08,214 --> 00:14:10,684 - There's a phone right here. 242 00:14:10,684 --> 00:14:14,554 - We drove on about another quarter mile. 243 00:14:14,620 --> 00:14:17,890 There's a ranger station up on the mountain. 244 00:14:17,957 --> 00:14:19,117 And I called 911. 245 00:14:19,191 --> 00:14:22,861 - Hi, I'd like to, uh... Report a... 246 00:14:22,929 --> 00:14:24,399 A body on the side of the road. 247 00:14:24,464 --> 00:14:27,064 - They told me somebody would be there and to get in the truck 248 00:14:27,133 --> 00:14:29,973 and lock the door. 249 00:14:33,272 --> 00:14:37,542 - [Crying] 250 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:40,180 - We sat in the car, and we waited, 251 00:14:40,246 --> 00:14:45,276 which seemed like hours, which was probably just minutes. 252 00:14:45,285 --> 00:14:47,545 [Police siren blares] 253 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:49,990 The cop car pulled up. 254 00:14:50,056 --> 00:14:53,016 And I jumped out of the car and I told them 255 00:14:53,092 --> 00:14:55,462 that I had seen a naked lady on the side of the road, 256 00:14:55,528 --> 00:15:01,368 and she was really white, and I thought she was dead. 257 00:15:01,434 --> 00:15:03,734 The officer told me, "take us there, 258 00:15:03,803 --> 00:15:07,673 but stay back 200 yards." 259 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:12,240 We pulled out of the parking lot, and we drove. 260 00:15:12,311 --> 00:15:14,381 And then I said, "Nicky, this is it. 261 00:15:14,447 --> 00:15:17,377 There's bullion bend up ahead." 262 00:15:19,986 --> 00:15:24,756 He had a big spotlight, and he was looking. 263 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:34,270 And then he came back down 264 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:37,667 and told me that they hadn't found anything 265 00:15:37,737 --> 00:15:41,537 and that we should go home. 266 00:15:41,607 --> 00:15:43,707 And I even told my husband that I didn't think 267 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:47,276 that they believed me and that they thought I was crazy, 268 00:15:47,346 --> 00:15:50,276 and they probably just stopped the search. 269 00:15:52,651 --> 00:15:55,591 But I know that I saw her on that road. 270 00:16:06,232 --> 00:16:08,002 - Hey, guys. 271 00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:09,437 - Hey, how are you? - How's it going? 272 00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:10,868 - Not bad. 273 00:16:10,937 --> 00:16:13,297 - Later in the shift that night, I met up with the officers 274 00:16:13,372 --> 00:16:15,382 that had gone up to the call that Deborah hoyt made. 275 00:16:15,408 --> 00:16:17,508 - What's going on with bullion bend, seriously? 276 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:18,610 - We were speculating. 277 00:16:18,677 --> 00:16:20,777 I mean, maybe she's imagining it; 278 00:16:20,846 --> 00:16:22,246 maybe it's a practical joke. 279 00:16:22,314 --> 00:16:25,324 - Okay, so was she nuts? I mean, was she... 280 00:16:25,384 --> 00:16:27,794 - No, she was very convincing. 281 00:16:27,853 --> 00:16:29,093 Like, she saw something. 282 00:16:29,155 --> 00:16:30,615 - They believed her. 283 00:16:30,689 --> 00:16:32,829 It wasn't like they'd dismissed her as being a whack job, 284 00:16:32,858 --> 00:16:35,658 but they believed her. 285 00:16:43,035 --> 00:16:44,295 - We got in the house, 286 00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:47,744 and I just laid on my bed and kept crying. 287 00:16:58,884 --> 00:17:02,024 I kept trying to go to sleep, but... 288 00:17:02,088 --> 00:17:03,818 She kept popping in my head. 289 00:17:03,889 --> 00:17:06,759 The vision of her just kept popping in my head, 290 00:17:06,826 --> 00:17:09,386 and when it did, I would wake up and cry. 291 00:17:27,279 --> 00:17:29,479 - I got a call to go back to the sheriff's department. 292 00:17:33,619 --> 00:17:36,389 I met with the aunt and uncle of Christine skubish, 293 00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:39,819 who had just spent all night driving up to placerville 294 00:17:39,892 --> 00:17:41,262 from southern California. 295 00:17:41,327 --> 00:17:43,067 - Okay, well, we want to help. Where can we go? 296 00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:44,695 - They were concerned, obviously, 297 00:17:44,763 --> 00:17:46,103 for Christine and for Nicky, 298 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:47,735 because nobody had seen or heard from them. 299 00:17:47,766 --> 00:17:49,596 And they'd indicated to me that they wanted 300 00:17:49,668 --> 00:17:50,968 to start their own search. 301 00:17:51,036 --> 00:17:52,606 - Highway 50, okay. We're gonna go there now. 302 00:17:52,638 --> 00:17:53,698 - No, you can't go there. 303 00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:55,543 - And I recommended that they get some rest. 304 00:17:55,542 --> 00:17:56,912 They were both very tired. 305 00:17:56,910 --> 00:18:02,810 Get some sleep and start fresh when the sun is up. 306 00:18:02,816 --> 00:18:05,646 As I was talking to them, I was becoming more suspicious 307 00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:07,992 that there could be some connection 308 00:18:08,054 --> 00:18:13,694 between this naked woman and Christine skubish. 309 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:17,229 I just had a sixth sense. 310 00:18:17,296 --> 00:18:20,926 I thought, "I'm gonna go up into that area and search myself." 311 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,930 [Haunting instrumental music] 312 00:18:24,003 --> 00:18:29,943 ♪ ♪ 313 00:18:32,611 --> 00:18:38,121 - And I was desperate to find her, along with my wife. 314 00:18:38,184 --> 00:18:40,554 As the time was clicking on, 315 00:18:40,619 --> 00:18:45,089 we started getting more and more worried. 316 00:18:45,157 --> 00:18:48,227 We knew that something had happened, 317 00:18:48,294 --> 00:18:51,404 but we didn't know what. 318 00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:54,433 [Intense instrumental music] 319 00:18:54,500 --> 00:19:00,400 ♪ ♪ 320 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,140 - As I drove up there, obviously the sun is rising. 321 00:19:04,210 --> 00:19:08,150 It's getting brighter. 322 00:19:08,214 --> 00:19:10,514 I approached the bullion bend area. 323 00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,783 This is the area that Deborah hoyt had told the officers 324 00:19:12,851 --> 00:19:14,791 where she'd seen this naked woman. 325 00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:21,926 I was looking for anything that was out of the ordinary. 326 00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:23,474 It could've been debris on the roadway 327 00:19:23,529 --> 00:19:24,859 that ordinarily wouldn't be there. 328 00:19:24,931 --> 00:19:27,801 It could be skid marks off the side of the road. 329 00:19:27,866 --> 00:19:31,436 Anything that isn't ordinarily on the highway, 330 00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:35,213 I was gonna stop and investigate. 331 00:19:35,274 --> 00:19:38,184 Once I got into the bullion bend area, I slowed my car down. 332 00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:51,794 I saw a small tennis shoe, like a child's tennis shoe, 333 00:19:51,857 --> 00:19:55,687 on the road. 334 00:19:55,761 --> 00:19:58,071 I'm thinking, "what are the odds that this is Nicky's shoe?" 335 00:19:58,097 --> 00:19:59,797 I mean, this is exactly the location 336 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,729 that I had been told Deborah hoyt said 337 00:20:02,802 --> 00:20:05,772 she saw a naked woman on the shoulder. 338 00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:38,699 - I could look down and actually see 339 00:20:38,771 --> 00:20:40,971 that this was a very steep drop-off. 340 00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,982 And there was, you know, big pine trees 341 00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:46,884 all intermingled there. 342 00:20:46,879 --> 00:20:50,509 And as I'm looking down, I started to see debris. 343 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:54,417 That's when I saw the red car. 344 00:21:00,026 --> 00:21:03,426 The whole roof had been peeled back on this car, 345 00:21:03,495 --> 00:21:06,555 and so the entire top part of the car was missing. 346 00:21:06,632 --> 00:21:10,332 It was gone. 347 00:21:10,402 --> 00:21:13,302 [Tense instrumental music] 348 00:21:13,372 --> 00:21:19,312 ♪ ♪ 349 00:21:25,984 --> 00:21:28,924 I came around to see if there was anybody in there. 350 00:21:40,432 --> 00:21:41,532 I realize at that point 351 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,540 this is in fact Christine skubish. 352 00:21:46,972 --> 00:21:49,842 I reached, and I tried to feel for a pulse. 353 00:21:54,847 --> 00:21:57,177 At that point, I knew that she had died. 354 00:21:57,249 --> 00:22:00,449 She was deceased. 355 00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:03,593 What bothered me the most about this, 356 00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:05,815 not that seeing Christine like that, 357 00:22:05,891 --> 00:22:11,631 but looking across the car... 358 00:22:11,697 --> 00:22:14,327 That's what really got me. 359 00:22:17,102 --> 00:22:19,002 He had basically the look of death. 360 00:22:19,071 --> 00:22:22,771 He didn't have any life, looking at him. 361 00:22:26,845 --> 00:22:29,545 I took my light, and I shined my light in his eyes 362 00:22:29,615 --> 00:22:32,545 to see if there's any reaction. 363 00:22:41,693 --> 00:22:43,633 And I saw no reaction, no pupil change. 364 00:22:45,298 --> 00:22:48,098 I didn't feel a pulse. 365 00:22:48,101 --> 00:22:51,001 I believed that Nicky, too, was dead. 366 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:57,508 - [Raspy gasp] 367 00:22:57,576 --> 00:22:58,906 - And then I noticed that his chest, 368 00:22:58,911 --> 00:23:01,481 as he's laying, his chest Rose a little bit, 369 00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:02,581 like he took a breath. 370 00:23:02,648 --> 00:23:04,678 - [Raspy breathing] 371 00:23:04,750 --> 00:23:06,850 - And I thought my mind was playing tricks on me. 372 00:23:06,919 --> 00:23:09,549 I thought I was seeing things. 373 00:23:09,621 --> 00:23:11,591 And then I got down close, 374 00:23:11,657 --> 00:23:13,487 and I could actually feel shallow breaths. 375 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,459 - [Raspy breathing] 376 00:23:16,528 --> 00:23:18,458 - And I said, "oh, my god. He's alive." 377 00:23:18,531 --> 00:23:19,561 - Nicky, stay with me. 378 00:23:19,631 --> 00:23:21,701 Nicky, stay with me. 379 00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:24,097 - I immediately got on the radio. 380 00:23:24,103 --> 00:23:26,273 - I need an e.M.T. Down here as soon as possible. 381 00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:27,598 - I tried to hold his hand. 382 00:23:27,673 --> 00:23:30,243 I said, "Nicky, if you can hear me, squeeze my hand." 383 00:23:30,243 --> 00:23:32,043 - Stay with me, now. Stay with me. 384 00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:33,840 - I tried to get him to interact with me. 385 00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:35,052 - Come on, Nicky. 386 00:23:35,113 --> 00:23:36,423 - I just continued to repeat his name. 387 00:23:36,448 --> 00:23:37,578 - Stay with me. 388 00:23:37,649 --> 00:23:42,119 - And I told him, "you're gonna be okay." 389 00:23:42,188 --> 00:23:43,218 Another deputy showed up, 390 00:23:43,288 --> 00:23:46,758 and I called him down to where I was. 391 00:23:46,825 --> 00:23:48,455 I told him who Nicky was, 392 00:23:48,527 --> 00:23:50,587 and I said, "you got to stay here with him. 393 00:23:50,662 --> 00:23:53,902 You know, I'm afraid the family's coming." 394 00:23:53,966 --> 00:23:55,866 I didn't want them to see 395 00:23:55,934 --> 00:24:01,514 the condition of Christine or Nicky. 396 00:24:01,574 --> 00:24:03,944 And sure enough, Karen arrived. 397 00:24:04,009 --> 00:24:05,309 - Stay back, please. - [Sobbing] 398 00:24:05,311 --> 00:24:06,581 - Nicky's okay. 399 00:24:06,645 --> 00:24:08,355 - And I had to put up my hands and say, "stop." 400 00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:10,340 - Stay back, stay back. Let's go back up the hill. 401 00:24:10,382 --> 00:24:12,352 - I kind of held Karen, and I looked her in the face, 402 00:24:12,351 --> 00:24:14,051 and I told her, "the car's down here. 403 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,819 I found both Christine and Nicky." 404 00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:19,388 - Watch your step, watch your step. 405 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:20,468 - And then I had to tell her. 406 00:24:20,492 --> 00:24:21,832 I said, "Christine didn't make it. 407 00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:23,094 Christine died." 408 00:24:23,161 --> 00:24:26,031 - It's okay, it's okay. It's okay. 409 00:24:26,098 --> 00:24:31,338 - Oh, my god, Christine! 410 00:24:31,403 --> 00:24:36,113 - "But Nicky is alive." 411 00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:38,108 - You're okay, buddy. - Okay. 412 00:24:38,176 --> 00:24:39,876 All right. - Let's get you home, buddy. 413 00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:42,609 - Everybody ready? One, two, three. 414 00:24:42,681 --> 00:24:45,181 - It's okay, Nicky. 415 00:24:45,184 --> 00:24:48,394 We'll get you home safe. 416 00:24:48,453 --> 00:24:51,023 - The firefighters, the paramedics, 417 00:24:51,089 --> 00:24:53,789 they did all the treatments, the neck support, everything, 418 00:24:53,859 --> 00:24:55,839 and put him on a flat back board to get him out of there 419 00:24:55,861 --> 00:24:57,531 and load him into an ambulance. 420 00:24:57,596 --> 00:25:00,526 [Indistinct radio transmission] 421 00:25:02,134 --> 00:25:04,604 - We got the phone call. 422 00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:08,440 They found Chris and Nick. 423 00:25:11,443 --> 00:25:13,443 And my wife kept saying, "well, how are they? 424 00:25:13,446 --> 00:25:17,076 Are they okay?" 425 00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:20,079 And I had to tell her... 426 00:25:27,225 --> 00:25:31,155 "Brenda, Chris is dead." 427 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,530 - Earlier today police responded 428 00:25:36,602 --> 00:25:38,272 to a fatal car accident on highway 50. 429 00:25:38,337 --> 00:25:39,417 - My mother came to tell me 430 00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:41,101 I needed to see something on TV. 431 00:25:41,173 --> 00:25:44,343 - 23-year-old Christine skubish and her son, Nicky, 432 00:25:44,409 --> 00:25:45,779 went missing five days ago. 433 00:25:45,844 --> 00:25:48,114 Their car was found in a ravine. 434 00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:50,280 Christine was pronounced dead at the scene. 435 00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:52,749 - I looked up, and I saw the woman 436 00:25:52,818 --> 00:25:54,718 that I had saw on the side of the road. 437 00:25:54,786 --> 00:25:56,786 - Remarkably Nicky survived for five days 438 00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:59,659 without food or water. 439 00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:01,525 She had the same soft face, 440 00:26:01,593 --> 00:26:04,363 and if you can imagine her eyes closed, 441 00:26:04,429 --> 00:26:05,959 that would've been her. 442 00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:11,098 - The woman that Deborah hoyt saw 443 00:26:11,169 --> 00:26:13,099 could not have been Christine skubish 444 00:26:13,171 --> 00:26:16,071 because the night that Deborah hoyt saw this woman, 445 00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:19,075 Christine skubish had already been dead for five days. 446 00:26:51,209 --> 00:26:54,849 - The coroner's report indicated that death was immediate 447 00:26:54,913 --> 00:26:58,753 and that she died on impact. 448 00:26:58,817 --> 00:27:00,577 Christine skubish never took off her clothes, 449 00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:01,692 never climbed up the hill, 450 00:27:01,721 --> 00:27:03,151 never lied on the side of the road, 451 00:27:03,221 --> 00:27:05,061 never went back down and got redressed 452 00:27:05,123 --> 00:27:07,123 and put herself back in the car. 453 00:27:07,192 --> 00:27:10,262 None of that happened. 454 00:27:10,262 --> 00:27:12,902 She was lying dead in that car for five days 455 00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:17,034 before Deborah hoyt ever saw anybody on the side of the road. 456 00:27:29,415 --> 00:27:32,145 - When I walk into the room, I could see him there, 457 00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:35,751 and he was trying to hold his hands up, like, "papa." 458 00:27:35,755 --> 00:27:36,885 - Papa! 459 00:27:36,955 --> 00:27:40,815 - [Laughing] Nicky, look at you. 460 00:27:40,892 --> 00:27:46,102 - And he was pale, skinny, 461 00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:49,074 but he had a smile on his face. 462 00:27:49,134 --> 00:27:50,574 I walked over there, 463 00:27:50,635 --> 00:27:52,395 and not grabbing him hard or tight, 464 00:27:52,471 --> 00:27:56,411 but just held him as gently... Like a baby. 465 00:28:00,879 --> 00:28:02,379 [Clapping] 466 00:28:02,447 --> 00:28:06,147 And it's like we were happy. 467 00:28:06,218 --> 00:28:07,418 Although we lost our daughter, 468 00:28:07,486 --> 00:28:10,316 we were happy that Nicky was still there. 469 00:28:12,724 --> 00:28:15,394 - Roughly about 17 years have passed 470 00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:17,934 since the accident happened. 471 00:28:17,996 --> 00:28:20,256 Most of the things that I do remember 472 00:28:20,332 --> 00:28:24,472 are just lots of flashes, mostly pictures. 473 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:29,706 They're very vivid. 474 00:28:29,775 --> 00:28:32,235 The earliest ones... I do remember being 475 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:36,010 at my grandparents' house with my mother. 476 00:28:36,081 --> 00:28:37,751 I remember them having a conversation. 477 00:28:37,816 --> 00:28:40,746 I don't exactly know what it was about. 478 00:28:46,726 --> 00:28:49,626 That's about the earliest memory that I have. 479 00:28:49,694 --> 00:28:51,834 The closest memory that occurs after that 480 00:28:51,831 --> 00:28:54,831 is of the accident itself. 481 00:28:58,970 --> 00:29:00,670 I remember tumbling down the hill. 482 00:29:00,673 --> 00:29:03,443 [Crashing and glass breaking] 483 00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:04,942 It's just tree after tree after tree. 484 00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:07,980 We were just hitting them head-on. 485 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:17,050 I just remember waking up and being in the passenger seat 486 00:29:17,056 --> 00:29:21,486 next to my mother. 487 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,960 I remember not knowing what to think. 488 00:29:24,029 --> 00:29:26,829 Looking at my mom and just kind of thinking she was asleep. 489 00:29:26,898 --> 00:29:30,168 I didn't think anything more than that... 490 00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:31,965 At least, not that I remember. 491 00:29:41,246 --> 00:29:43,676 I remember seeing lights. 492 00:29:47,953 --> 00:29:50,153 And I just remember that there was something there. 493 00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:52,522 There was something right next to the car the entire time 494 00:29:52,591 --> 00:29:54,761 next to my mom. 495 00:29:54,826 --> 00:29:57,526 I have a very distinct and vivid picture of it 496 00:29:57,530 --> 00:29:58,830 in my head. 497 00:29:58,897 --> 00:30:00,397 I mean, it was just a light. 498 00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:05,865 It was a big light. 499 00:30:05,871 --> 00:30:07,871 And then through the back window of the car itself, 500 00:30:07,939 --> 00:30:11,879 I could also see the same thing next to the road. 501 00:30:17,415 --> 00:30:19,715 And it had a silhouette. 502 00:30:26,224 --> 00:30:28,464 There was no specific features, 503 00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:33,130 but I saw a lighted outline of a body. 504 00:30:33,198 --> 00:30:37,598 [Eerie indistinct whispering] 505 00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:39,343 It was never something that scared me. 506 00:30:39,404 --> 00:30:42,914 And I didn't feel afraid when I saw it. 507 00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:53,716 - Two weeks later, Brenda and I decided to go to the crash site 508 00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:58,085 to see if there was anything else that was left down there 509 00:30:58,156 --> 00:31:02,686 behind that were Chris's. 510 00:31:02,695 --> 00:31:09,265 We wanted to make sure that we got everything out of there. 511 00:31:09,334 --> 00:31:16,144 As I got out of the car, there was a little mile marker 512 00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:20,707 it said "16 miles" with an arrow pointing to placerville. 513 00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:22,619 Then I knew that my sister didn't have a dream. 514 00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:23,951 It was a premonition. 515 00:31:24,015 --> 00:31:26,315 - The number 16 kept popping up. 516 00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,724 - And it all started making sense 517 00:31:28,787 --> 00:31:32,117 as I started adding the pieces. 518 00:31:32,190 --> 00:31:34,960 - When you put all of the pieces of the puzzle together... 519 00:31:35,026 --> 00:31:38,796 You take the dream that my aunt had, 520 00:31:38,797 --> 00:31:42,427 the apparition sighting that Debra hoyt did see... 521 00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:44,530 - I just saw a dead woman on the side of the road. 522 00:31:44,536 --> 00:31:49,666 And the lights that I did see around the car... 523 00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:53,175 It had to have been an angel. 524 00:31:53,178 --> 00:31:54,708 Whether it was god's hand 525 00:31:54,779 --> 00:31:57,309 or just a mother looking after her son, 526 00:31:57,382 --> 00:32:00,122 I honestly don't know, but it was something. 527 00:32:00,185 --> 00:32:02,645 It was something greater than me, 528 00:32:02,721 --> 00:32:08,561 greater than anything that I've ever believed. 529 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,600 - I absolutely think something special happened here. 530 00:32:13,665 --> 00:32:14,755 People have asked before, 531 00:32:14,767 --> 00:32:16,127 "is this some kind of a miracle?" 532 00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:18,641 Yeah, I think it is a miracle. 533 00:32:18,703 --> 00:32:21,813 It's a whole number of series of events that I can't explain. 534 00:32:21,873 --> 00:32:24,573 And I don't know. I've often thought about it. 535 00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:27,506 I just don't have the answers. 536 00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:53,838 - I would come into the heliport 537 00:32:53,905 --> 00:32:57,805 and preflight the helicopter. 538 00:32:57,876 --> 00:33:00,876 Then we would settle in and try to Gauge, 539 00:33:00,879 --> 00:33:03,879 listening to the police radio, 540 00:33:03,948 --> 00:33:05,918 of how the day was going. 541 00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:08,394 - Alex, you copy? 542 00:33:08,453 --> 00:33:12,963 - I was working with a new crew member, Kenny downs. 543 00:33:13,024 --> 00:33:15,294 He did not have any flight experience, 544 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:22,570 and my job was to kind of guide him and show him the ropes. 545 00:33:22,634 --> 00:33:24,504 - I'd only been in the unit a couple weeks. 546 00:33:24,503 --> 00:33:28,513 So it was like having a brand-new job. 547 00:33:28,573 --> 00:33:31,383 We noticed very quickly it was a very quiet night. 548 00:33:39,751 --> 00:33:42,221 Around 10:30 or 11:00 that night... 549 00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:43,547 - engine's on. 550 00:33:43,621 --> 00:33:46,621 - We decided that we should take the helicopter up 551 00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:48,961 and do our routine patrol. 552 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,457 - Requesting permission to take off. 553 00:33:50,528 --> 00:33:51,828 - Make our presence known. 554 00:33:51,897 --> 00:33:54,077 - Air one, this is north tower. You are clear to hover taxi. 555 00:33:54,099 --> 00:33:58,969 - Copy that. 556 00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:04,267 - Get us in town, see what's happening. 557 00:34:04,342 --> 00:34:07,682 - Kenny and I were flying. 558 00:34:07,745 --> 00:34:09,505 Kenny was shining the light, 559 00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:11,881 checking for anything that may be unusual. 560 00:34:11,950 --> 00:34:17,220 Checking rooftops of businesses, school grounds, 561 00:34:17,288 --> 00:34:19,358 and the expressways and roadways. 562 00:34:19,424 --> 00:34:23,764 - Expressway looks fine. No traffic. 563 00:34:23,828 --> 00:34:25,798 Not much, Kenny. 564 00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:27,734 All clear right now. 565 00:34:27,799 --> 00:34:30,269 - The radio was quiet. 566 00:34:30,335 --> 00:34:34,335 There wasn't a lot of activity on the streets. 567 00:34:34,405 --> 00:34:36,675 - Let's head a little further out and see what's going on. 568 00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:41,078 - There was virtually nothing in the sky. 569 00:34:41,146 --> 00:34:45,146 It was just a slow night all the way around. 570 00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:49,086 - So you wouldn't think that that night would be a night 571 00:34:49,154 --> 00:34:51,294 that you'd remember for the rest of your life. 572 00:35:01,366 --> 00:35:02,906 - Over to the west, we'll head over and we'll check in 573 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,034 on the container yard. 574 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:05,672 Swing your light around that side. 575 00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:08,437 Let's keep an eye out for what's happening. 576 00:35:16,514 --> 00:35:19,324 - We had been flying for about 45 minutes to an hour. 577 00:35:19,318 --> 00:35:21,418 - Air one, we have a burglary in progress 578 00:35:21,486 --> 00:35:22,686 on beutil road. 579 00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:23,994 - Copy that. 580 00:35:24,055 --> 00:35:26,455 - A call came out that there was a burglary in progress. 581 00:35:28,826 --> 00:35:31,996 - And it's about three miles up north, I believe. 582 00:35:32,063 --> 00:35:33,163 - Then as we got nearer, 583 00:35:33,231 --> 00:35:35,401 which was only about a couple minutes, 584 00:35:35,466 --> 00:35:37,996 three minutes away, 585 00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:40,999 I saw a light flickering. 586 00:35:44,976 --> 00:35:46,676 The officer was shining his flashlight, 587 00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:48,144 turning it off and on, 588 00:35:48,213 --> 00:35:52,323 and I could tell where we were going. 589 00:35:52,383 --> 00:35:55,593 - All right, this is beutil coming up right over here. 590 00:35:55,587 --> 00:35:57,587 - We were almost there. 591 00:35:57,655 --> 00:36:01,285 - Be advised, all personnel, that is a false alarm. 592 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:03,559 - And they told us that it was a false alarm. 593 00:36:03,628 --> 00:36:05,428 - Copy that. 594 00:36:05,496 --> 00:36:10,196 False alarm, Kenny. 595 00:36:10,268 --> 00:36:11,988 - All right, I'm gonna bring us around then. 596 00:36:12,036 --> 00:36:13,716 We'll head back to base if that's the case. 597 00:36:13,771 --> 00:36:16,371 - We decided that we would just head back to the heliport 598 00:36:16,441 --> 00:36:17,541 and take a break. 599 00:36:17,609 --> 00:36:20,909 - Kentucky a.T.C., this is air one. 600 00:36:20,979 --> 00:36:25,079 We are four miles due southwest of... 601 00:36:25,149 --> 00:36:27,049 - Roger that, air one. You are clear to land 602 00:36:27,118 --> 00:36:28,418 on helipad three. 603 00:36:28,486 --> 00:36:29,626 - En route back to the heliport, 604 00:36:29,654 --> 00:36:33,694 we went over a group of trees. 605 00:36:33,758 --> 00:36:36,688 We cleared this clump of trees, 606 00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:39,201 and I saw something very unusual. 607 00:36:39,264 --> 00:36:42,034 - What's that? - What's what? 608 00:36:42,034 --> 00:36:44,174 - Look over to your left. 609 00:36:44,235 --> 00:36:46,865 - I recall Kenny saying to me, 610 00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:50,438 "Kenny, when did that tower get out there?" 611 00:36:50,442 --> 00:36:52,012 And I said, "tower? What tower?" 612 00:36:52,076 --> 00:36:54,036 "Yeah, that tower with the light on it." 613 00:36:54,112 --> 00:36:55,282 - There is no tower there. 614 00:36:55,346 --> 00:36:56,886 - He said, "what are you talking about?" 615 00:36:56,914 --> 00:37:00,654 I said, "that right there." So I shined the light on it. 616 00:37:00,718 --> 00:37:04,188 - And I looked over and saw a glowing object. 617 00:37:09,127 --> 00:37:11,027 And I said, "what is that?" 618 00:37:11,095 --> 00:37:13,195 - That's definitely not a light on a tower. 619 00:37:13,264 --> 00:37:16,074 - I got lower and a little closer. 620 00:37:21,572 --> 00:37:23,342 - It was very bright. 621 00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:26,338 It had a pear shape. 622 00:37:27,745 --> 00:37:29,075 It just set there. 623 00:37:29,147 --> 00:37:30,947 So we were kind of facing off with each other. 624 00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:33,852 It was looking at us, and we were looking at it. 625 00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:39,264 I kept asking Kenny, "what is this thing?" 626 00:37:39,324 --> 00:37:41,764 - Look at that. 627 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,790 - We just couldn't believe what we were seeing. 628 00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:50,997 It started gaining altitude... 629 00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:54,699 Coming up to about our altitude. 630 00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:56,912 It stopped for a second. 631 00:37:56,974 --> 00:37:59,284 It kind of looked at us, kind of faced off, 632 00:37:59,344 --> 00:38:03,654 and then it started going to the right... 633 00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:06,015 And then to the left. 634 00:38:06,084 --> 00:38:08,224 - Wow, I've never seen anything like it. 635 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:09,450 - Okay. 636 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,090 - It kind of hovered like we were doing. 637 00:38:11,089 --> 00:38:14,819 So we were kind of faced off with each other. 638 00:38:14,892 --> 00:38:17,992 And then all of a sudden, it just takes off at warp speed. 639 00:38:18,062 --> 00:38:19,932 [Sonic boom] 640 00:38:19,997 --> 00:38:22,297 And just goes, like, a mile and a half in a second. 641 00:38:22,367 --> 00:38:24,797 - Oh, my god. - It took off. 642 00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:27,243 - As it disappeared from my sight, 643 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:30,865 it had to be going 600 miles an hour. 644 00:38:30,942 --> 00:38:32,312 - We just couldn't believe it. 645 00:38:32,377 --> 00:38:34,377 What is this thing? 646 00:38:34,445 --> 00:38:37,375 It would leave, and it would be right back. 647 00:38:38,783 --> 00:38:41,693 [Sharp hissing] 648 00:38:47,125 --> 00:38:51,325 - I saw a helicopter hovering over the g.E. Property. 649 00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:53,896 I could tell that it was a police helicopter. 650 00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:55,665 - What do you got going on over at g.E.? 651 00:38:55,733 --> 00:38:57,053 I'm across the street in the park. 652 00:38:57,101 --> 00:39:00,101 - I said, "guys, you all need to come over here. 653 00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:02,491 We've got something chasing us. We're in g.E. Parking lot." 654 00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:11,380 - You know, I moved onto the property to get a better look. 655 00:39:11,383 --> 00:39:13,523 And, you know, I see the helicopter, 656 00:39:13,584 --> 00:39:17,024 and then off to one side I see kind of a faint glowing light. 657 00:39:20,758 --> 00:39:22,698 - Joe, we're seeing this orange glow up in the sky here. 658 00:39:22,727 --> 00:39:24,037 Do you see what we're seeing, Joe? 659 00:39:24,061 --> 00:39:26,201 - I see it all around you. 660 00:39:26,198 --> 00:39:28,198 - You know, I'm talking to Kenny on the radio, 661 00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:31,766 and you know, we're basically asking him, 662 00:39:31,836 --> 00:39:35,466 "hey, what is it, guys?" You know, "what are you seeing?" 663 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,770 - It's behind us! Behind us. 664 00:39:37,842 --> 00:39:39,812 - I hear, "Kenny, it's chasing us! 665 00:39:39,877 --> 00:39:41,237 It's chasing us!" 666 00:39:41,313 --> 00:39:43,163 - I'm bringing us back around. Bringing us back around. 667 00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:45,151 - Air one, I have no idea what that is. 668 00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:47,546 - I'm thinking, "this thing is gonna hit our tail rotor." 669 00:39:47,618 --> 00:39:50,618 - Keeps going behind. I can't keep it in front. 670 00:39:50,688 --> 00:39:51,918 - I turn into it. 671 00:39:51,989 --> 00:39:53,899 - Stand by, air one. I have no idea what that is. 672 00:39:53,925 --> 00:39:57,685 - We're chasing after it. 673 00:39:57,762 --> 00:39:59,602 I was looking out my windshield. 674 00:39:59,664 --> 00:40:03,504 I want to know what it is. 675 00:40:03,568 --> 00:40:04,598 The whole time, you know, 676 00:40:04,669 --> 00:40:06,999 I'm chasing this object and everything, 677 00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:09,071 things are flashing through my mind. 678 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:11,510 Is it a plane, a balloon? 679 00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:14,106 Some kind of aircraft? 680 00:40:14,178 --> 00:40:16,608 I can't keep my eye on it 'cause they're moving, 681 00:40:16,615 --> 00:40:18,915 and I'm having to move to try to keep up 682 00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:23,387 and get a closer look at it. 683 00:40:23,454 --> 00:40:26,324 I'm driving pretty fast... 684 00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:31,990 As I'm zigzagging through the buildings. 685 00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:34,103 It started getting farther and farther away from me 686 00:40:34,165 --> 00:40:38,425 where I couldn't keep up with it. 687 00:40:38,503 --> 00:40:41,943 - The last moment, it was unbelievable. 688 00:40:44,876 --> 00:40:47,736 - It's hovering right in front of us. 689 00:40:47,812 --> 00:40:48,912 - It's hovering. - Whoa! 690 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:50,050 - What the hell is that? 691 00:40:50,048 --> 00:40:51,478 - Oh, my god. 692 00:40:51,549 --> 00:40:53,649 All of a sudden, there come the fireballs. 693 00:41:06,664 --> 00:41:08,604 - Whoa! 694 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:12,869 - Where'd it go? 695 00:41:12,937 --> 00:41:14,137 - When it fired out, 696 00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:16,735 they stayed equal distance to each other. 697 00:41:16,807 --> 00:41:19,237 - Look at that. - There's another one. 698 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:21,940 - When they shot these fireballs out, 699 00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:23,883 one never passed the other one. 700 00:41:23,948 --> 00:41:27,148 It was just right in line. 701 00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:28,948 - At that same time, 702 00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:33,060 I'm banking the helicopter hard to the left and turning 703 00:41:33,124 --> 00:41:37,564 because I didn't want these objects to hit us. 704 00:41:37,562 --> 00:41:41,932 - I see these faint fireballs just kind of spurt out. 705 00:41:48,439 --> 00:41:50,639 - By then, I'm coming back up and around 706 00:41:50,708 --> 00:41:53,138 to see where it went. 707 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:54,480 And it was gone. 708 00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:55,845 - Where'd it go? Kenny? Kenny? 709 00:41:55,914 --> 00:41:57,154 Where'd it go? - I-I don't know. 710 00:41:57,181 --> 00:42:00,251 - And we were saying, "where is it?" 711 00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:04,418 - Kenny, you see anything? I don't see anything. 712 00:42:04,489 --> 00:42:07,589 - There was nothing. It just vanished. 713 00:42:11,295 --> 00:42:17,565 We circled the area and could not find any trace of anything. 714 00:42:17,635 --> 00:42:20,435 Just as it appeared in the beginning, 715 00:42:20,438 --> 00:42:25,308 it was gone in an instant. 716 00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:28,036 - Once the unidentified flying object disappeared, 717 00:42:28,112 --> 00:42:31,012 we decided to head in. 718 00:42:31,016 --> 00:42:33,976 There wasn't a lot of conversation. 719 00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:42,630 - At that point, I'm just kind of baffled, you know. 720 00:42:42,693 --> 00:42:47,463 What was it? 721 00:42:47,465 --> 00:42:51,865 We're trying to say that this was not a u.F.O. 722 00:42:55,039 --> 00:43:00,579 And we couldn't do it. 723 00:43:00,579 --> 00:43:05,949 - Do I believe in u.F.O.S? Absolutely. 724 00:43:05,951 --> 00:43:08,581 - I really don't know what it was. 725 00:43:08,653 --> 00:43:10,623 And I can't explain it. 726 00:43:10,688 --> 00:43:14,488 But I did see an unidentified flying object.