1 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,020 >>DAVID WILCOCK: This is "Cosmic Disclosure." 2 00:00:18,148 --> 00:00:19,578 I'm your host, David Wilcock. 3 00:00:19,715 --> 00:00:22,015 And I'm here with Cory Goode, who 4 00:00:22,152 --> 00:00:26,682 has worked for over 20 yearsin the secret space program, 5 00:00:26,809 --> 00:00:29,639 got out in 1987 and now has been pulled back 6 00:00:29,768 --> 00:00:32,248 in in a very interesting way. 7 00:00:32,380 --> 00:00:34,560 After coming forward as an insider, 8 00:00:34,686 --> 00:00:37,246 he's been contacted by an alliance that 9 00:00:37,385 --> 00:00:40,735 is claiming that it wants totake the almost supernaturally 10 00:00:40,866 --> 00:00:45,216 exciting technology and wayof life of the space program, 11 00:00:45,349 --> 00:00:47,739 break down the walls of secrecy, and bring it 12 00:00:47,873 --> 00:00:49,923 back here to Earth. 13 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:51,750 So Corey, welcome to the show. 14 00:00:51,877 --> 00:00:53,487 >>COREY GOODE: Thank you. 15 00:00:53,618 --> 00:00:56,398 >>DAVID: We've been talkingabout the factions of the space 16 00:00:56,534 --> 00:00:59,154 program in earlier episodes. 17 00:00:59,276 --> 00:01:03,626 And we've covered them to varying degrees. 18 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:06,849 But as I was going throughmentally our notes, 19 00:01:06,979 --> 00:01:11,809 I realized that although wecovered it superficially, 20 00:01:11,941 --> 00:01:14,681 we never really talked thatmuch about the Global Galactic 21 00:01:14,813 --> 00:01:15,683 League of Nations group. 22 00:01:15,814 --> 00:01:17,254 >>COREY: Right. 23 00:01:17,381 --> 00:01:19,911 I always referred to themas the NATO-type group. 24 00:01:20,036 --> 00:01:21,646 >>DAVID: You always were saying "NATO-ish." 25 00:01:21,777 --> 00:01:24,207 I remember that. 26 00:01:24,345 --> 00:01:29,385 So to open this up a littlebit, let's think about this one. 27 00:01:29,524 --> 00:01:32,444 We now know that Joseph Stalin was well aware 28 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:36,440 that Roswell was, in fact, a crashed saucer, 29 00:01:36,574 --> 00:01:38,144 because that's what it was announced as. 30 00:01:38,272 --> 00:01:39,932 And then all of asudden, the US government 31 00:01:40,056 --> 00:01:42,886 says, oh, it's only a weather balloon. 32 00:01:43,015 --> 00:01:46,235 >>COREY: Easy mistake. [laughs] 33 00:01:46,367 --> 00:01:49,887 >>DAVID: [laughs] So I did someepisodes for "Ancient Aliens" 34 00:01:50,022 --> 00:01:53,772 in which part of theresearch that I went into 35 00:01:53,896 --> 00:01:59,546 was that Stalin hired peopleto go back through the records. 36 00:01:59,684 --> 00:02:02,564 And what they found was somebody had dug up 37 00:02:02,687 --> 00:02:08,217 a weird rocket in Siberia thathad Sanskrit written on it. 38 00:02:08,345 --> 00:02:10,905 And it was all metallic. 39 00:02:11,043 --> 00:02:13,263 The rocket-- they couldn'tget it out of the ground 40 00:02:13,394 --> 00:02:14,924 without damaging it. 41 00:02:15,047 --> 00:02:16,347 It was in the late 1800s,so they just left it buried. 42 00:02:16,484 --> 00:02:18,494 They re-buried it. 43 00:02:18,616 --> 00:02:21,046 So after Roswell happened,Stalin apparently 44 00:02:21,184 --> 00:02:23,754 dug up this rocket. 45 00:02:23,882 --> 00:02:25,932 It was so advanced, theycouldn't make any sense out 46 00:02:26,058 --> 00:02:27,448 of it. 47 00:02:27,582 --> 00:02:30,542 But apparently, there wasalso a chest in there. 48 00:02:30,672 --> 00:02:33,942 And the chest had all thesedocuments that included really 49 00:02:34,066 --> 00:02:37,896 elaborate blueprints and diagrams of spacecraft, 50 00:02:38,027 --> 00:02:39,897 how to build them, and space stations-- 51 00:02:40,029 --> 00:02:42,249 really, really cool stuff. 52 00:02:42,379 --> 00:02:44,509 And it was from that that the Russians 53 00:02:44,642 --> 00:02:47,732 were able to develop whatare called "cosmospheres," 54 00:02:47,863 --> 00:02:50,473 which are spherical flying--oh, you're nodding your head. 55 00:02:50,605 --> 00:02:51,905 Have you heard of the cosmospheres? 56 00:02:52,041 --> 00:02:52,611 >>COREY: Absolutely. 57 00:02:52,737 --> 00:02:53,347 >>DAVID: Really? 58 00:02:53,477 --> 00:02:54,647 >>COREY: Yeah. 59 00:02:54,783 --> 00:02:56,133 >>DAVID: What do you know about those? 60 00:02:56,263 --> 00:02:59,663 >>COREY: Russia usedthat-- or the Soviet Union 61 00:02:59,788 --> 00:03:03,098 used that as their way offorcing their way into some 62 00:03:03,226 --> 00:03:07,056 of the secret space programs, of getting involved. 63 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:08,407 >>DAVID: What is a cosmosphere? 64 00:03:08,536 --> 00:03:09,276 How does it work? 65 00:03:09,406 --> 00:03:10,706 What does it look like? 66 00:03:10,842 --> 00:03:15,592 >>COREY: They werespheres, metallic spheres 67 00:03:15,717 --> 00:03:20,977 that cosmonauts were flyingaround in in outer space. 68 00:03:21,113 --> 00:03:22,723 And our spacecraft were seeing them 69 00:03:22,854 --> 00:03:26,254 and were tracking themback to the Soviet Union. 70 00:03:26,380 --> 00:03:30,690 And it was very concerning. 71 00:03:30,819 --> 00:03:35,129 And it caused us and themto open more of a dialogue. 72 00:03:35,258 --> 00:03:37,088 >>DAVID: How large were the cosmospheres? 73 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:38,697 How many crew could be fit in there? 74 00:03:38,827 --> 00:03:40,567 >>COREY: They had different sizes. 75 00:03:40,698 --> 00:03:44,878 But they had them for, I believe, 76 00:03:45,007 --> 00:03:51,267 one to three people and even larger ones. 77 00:03:51,405 --> 00:03:53,485 >>DAVID: Let's take alook now at a video clip. 78 00:03:53,624 --> 00:03:55,504 This is going to beupsetting for some people who 79 00:03:55,626 --> 00:03:58,186 are a little older andremember this personally. 80 00:03:58,325 --> 00:04:00,935 The space shuttle Challenger blew up in the air. 81 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:03,626 And what you are about to see is a video 82 00:04:03,765 --> 00:04:07,935 of a spherical UFO taken bya cameraman who had filmed 83 00:04:08,073 --> 00:04:09,683 the Challenger blowing up. 84 00:04:09,814 --> 00:04:11,734 And you'll see it right here. 85 00:04:11,860 --> 00:04:13,210 >>CAMERAMAN: Anybody see the shadow? 86 00:04:30,008 --> 00:04:33,488 That's just a cloud, isn't it? 87 00:04:37,625 --> 00:04:39,405 No, that's stuff coming down. 88 00:04:48,723 --> 00:04:50,293 >>DAVID: Now, Corey, I don't know 89 00:04:50,420 --> 00:04:52,340 if you're familiar with this,but Lieutenant Colonel Tom 90 00:04:52,466 --> 00:04:57,856 Bearden-- retired-- claimedthat that sphere was 91 00:04:57,993 --> 00:05:01,173 a Russian craft, and that they had attacked 92 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:03,001 the Challenger on takeoff, that this 93 00:05:03,128 --> 00:05:05,868 was part of this secret war, Cold War 94 00:05:06,001 --> 00:05:08,481 stuff going on with advanced technology. 95 00:05:08,612 --> 00:05:12,272 They were doing this to try tostrike at the United States. 96 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:14,619 Did you ever hear of that incident? 97 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:20,619 >>COREY: We were already workingtogether with the Russians 98 00:05:20,755 --> 00:05:21,665 far before that happened. 99 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:31,682 The Cold War was pretty much a gimmick. 100 00:05:31,809 --> 00:05:33,119 >>DAVID: Like a fundraiser? 101 00:05:33,245 --> 00:05:34,725 >>COREY: Yeah, I guess you could call it that. 102 00:05:34,856 --> 00:05:38,856 But the people on the ground,the lower level people, 103 00:05:38,990 --> 00:05:40,820 were very much into it. 104 00:05:40,949 --> 00:05:42,519 It was real for them. 105 00:05:42,646 --> 00:05:47,296 But when it came down to it,the Soviets and the Americans 106 00:05:47,434 --> 00:05:49,394 were very much allies. 107 00:05:49,523 --> 00:05:51,003 >>DAVID: Well, apparently, it was only 108 00:05:51,133 --> 00:05:54,013 recently declassified-- Somebody posted 109 00:05:54,136 --> 00:05:55,876 this is a comment on my site after I 110 00:05:56,007 --> 00:05:58,447 wrote about the Manhattan Project-- 111 00:05:58,575 --> 00:06:02,405 that the United States neverwas able to enrich anywhere 112 00:06:02,536 --> 00:06:06,796 near enough uranium toactually make the atom bomb 113 00:06:06,931 --> 00:06:11,411 and that they got the rest from Nazi Germany. 114 00:06:11,545 --> 00:06:14,365 So this kind of stuff makes people go crazy. 115 00:06:14,504 --> 00:06:18,294 Because we've grown upfighting these great nemeses. 116 00:06:18,421 --> 00:06:21,121 And in World War II, even the women 117 00:06:21,250 --> 00:06:22,690 were getting involved in making bombs. 118 00:06:22,817 --> 00:06:25,817 And the threat of Hitler had captivated 119 00:06:25,950 --> 00:06:28,260 the whole world in fear. 120 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:29,778 And you're saying that all this stuff 121 00:06:29,911 --> 00:06:33,481 is a big, elaborate circus? 122 00:06:33,610 --> 00:06:38,440 >>COREY: One of these days,whenever there is maybe 123 00:06:38,572 --> 00:06:43,932 a data dump of the true history of what 124 00:06:44,055 --> 00:06:45,745 has happened in our world, people 125 00:06:45,883 --> 00:06:47,283 are going to be dumbfounded. 126 00:06:49,974 --> 00:06:52,064 And angry. 127 00:06:52,194 --> 00:06:55,154 >>DAVID: So do you think thatthis is why the Soviets almost 128 00:06:55,284 --> 00:06:58,074 immediately had the A-bombafter the US had it, 129 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,680 even though the US allegedly haddone such a classified project? 130 00:07:02,813 --> 00:07:04,953 That they just traded thesecrets with each other 131 00:07:05,076 --> 00:07:07,506 behind the scenes? 132 00:07:07,644 --> 00:07:10,044 >>COREY: That's all very lower level, 133 00:07:10,168 --> 00:07:13,348 ground level stuff going on. 134 00:07:13,476 --> 00:07:15,906 When it came down to it, they were already 135 00:07:16,044 --> 00:07:21,144 working together in spacebecause of different perceived 136 00:07:21,266 --> 00:07:23,136 extraterrestrial threats. 137 00:07:23,268 --> 00:07:28,668 And they were workingtogether to keep-- as well 138 00:07:28,796 --> 00:07:33,056 as they could, which wasn't very-- 139 00:07:33,191 --> 00:07:35,241 it was kind of silly tothink that we could protect 140 00:07:35,367 --> 00:07:38,457 the planet against these superadvanced extraterrestrials. 141 00:07:38,588 --> 00:07:42,158 But they were forming an alliance well 142 00:07:42,287 --> 00:07:51,817 before the Cold War in spaceto start protecting the Earth. 143 00:07:51,949 --> 00:07:55,209 >>DAVID: Do you think that wasthe basis of Ronald Reagan's 144 00:07:55,344 --> 00:08:00,484 infamous speech about an alienthreat unifying the world? 145 00:08:00,610 --> 00:08:02,220 >>COREY: Yeah, I guess it could have been. 146 00:08:02,351 --> 00:08:04,791 But like I said, far before that, 147 00:08:04,919 --> 00:08:08,839 we were already truly allieswith a lot of the people 148 00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:12,486 that we've supposedly been enemies with. 149 00:08:12,622 --> 00:08:14,322 >>DAVID: Let's take a quick look at that clip 150 00:08:14,450 --> 00:08:15,800 now of Ronald Reagan. 151 00:08:15,930 --> 00:08:17,800 >>RONALD REAGAN: Icouldn't help but one point 152 00:08:17,932 --> 00:08:21,722 in my discussions, privately with General Secretary 153 00:08:21,849 --> 00:08:23,629 Gorbachev. 154 00:08:23,764 --> 00:08:26,424 When you stop to think thatwe're all God's children 155 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:28,769 wherever we may live in the world, 156 00:08:28,899 --> 00:08:30,859 I couldn't help but say to him, just 157 00:08:30,988 --> 00:08:33,688 think how easy his task and mine might 158 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:36,947 be in these meetings we held if suddenly there 159 00:08:37,081 --> 00:08:41,611 was a threat to this worldfrom some other species 160 00:08:41,738 --> 00:08:46,308 from another planet outside in the universe. 161 00:08:46,438 --> 00:08:48,308 We'd forget all the little local differences 162 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,140 that we have between our countries, 163 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:53,659 and we would find out once and for all that 164 00:08:53,794 --> 00:08:58,674 we really are all human beingshere on this Earth together. 165 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,889 >>DAVID: So you said, though,that these cosmospheres 166 00:09:02,019 --> 00:09:05,369 are kind of sneaky andannoying to the space program. 167 00:09:05,501 --> 00:09:10,421 So how much collaboration wasgoing on with the Soviet Union? 168 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:12,420 >>COREY: In the beginning, there was very little. 169 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:18,042 But it became apparent notonly to the Soviet Union, 170 00:09:18,166 --> 00:09:22,076 but to all the countries of the world 171 00:09:22,213 --> 00:09:25,523 that there were secret space programs going on. 172 00:09:25,652 --> 00:09:27,442 >>DAVID: It became apparent at what time? 173 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:30,347 >>COREY: In the late '50s and early '60s, 174 00:09:30,482 --> 00:09:31,882 it was becoming very apparent. 175 00:09:32,006 --> 00:09:34,696 It was just obvious. 176 00:09:34,835 --> 00:09:39,965 And not only the SovietUnion and all the big powers 177 00:09:40,101 --> 00:09:41,931 started working together. 178 00:09:42,059 --> 00:09:45,109 But all of the smaller countries, 179 00:09:45,236 --> 00:09:46,626 now that they're knowing about it, 180 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,110 how are you going to keep them quiet? 181 00:09:52,156 --> 00:09:56,246 They wanted to be a partof this "saving the world," 182 00:09:56,378 --> 00:10:00,298 be a part of this secret space program. 183 00:10:00,425 --> 00:10:02,115 >>DAVID: Were there intelligence services 184 00:10:02,253 --> 00:10:05,133 for some of these countriesthat were capturing 185 00:10:05,256 --> 00:10:06,946 and interrogating people, perhaps 186 00:10:07,084 --> 00:10:10,314 under very strenuous means,and obtaining information 187 00:10:10,435 --> 00:10:11,995 through unethical practices like that? 188 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:13,663 Is that part of how this was happening? 189 00:10:13,787 --> 00:10:16,087 >>COREY: Well, they were obtaining information 190 00:10:16,224 --> 00:10:18,574 in any number of ways. 191 00:10:21,664 --> 00:10:23,934 We had agreements with all these countries 192 00:10:24,058 --> 00:10:28,278 that any time a UFOcrashed in their country, 193 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:33,590 we were allowed to send in our retrieval teams. 194 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,640 >>DAVID: How early was that treaty made? 195 00:10:35,765 --> 00:10:39,375 >>COREY: That was going on in the late '40s, 196 00:10:39,508 --> 00:10:40,198 the '50s, the '60s. 197 00:10:40,335 --> 00:10:40,985 >>DAVID: That early? 198 00:10:41,118 --> 00:10:42,208 Wow. 199 00:10:42,337 --> 00:10:43,817 >>COREY: Yeah, we were retrieving 200 00:10:43,947 --> 00:10:46,427 UFOs that were crashing inall these small countries. 201 00:10:46,558 --> 00:10:49,258 So they couldn't keep this a big secret. 202 00:10:49,387 --> 00:10:53,257 They didn't have to put the screws to a person, 203 00:10:53,391 --> 00:10:56,441 really, to find out what was going on. 204 00:10:56,568 --> 00:11:01,438 So what happened was theyformed a secret space program 205 00:11:01,573 --> 00:11:06,143 or a program that I called up until recently 206 00:11:06,274 --> 00:11:08,934 the NATO-ish type group. 207 00:11:09,059 --> 00:11:14,109 And it wasn't until I was inone of the secret space program 208 00:11:14,238 --> 00:11:16,978 meetings at the LLC that it was referred 209 00:11:17,111 --> 00:11:22,071 to as the "Global GalacticLeague of Nations." 210 00:11:22,203 --> 00:11:25,603 And that just sounded like a really hinky name 211 00:11:25,728 --> 00:11:29,558 to me, the League of Nations. 212 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:32,339 But that's what they werebeing referred to as. 213 00:11:32,474 --> 00:11:34,304 >>DAVID: Well, that's theprecursor to the United 214 00:11:34,432 --> 00:11:35,562 Nations, right? 215 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:36,565 This is like post-World War I type 216 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,516 of stuff, Treaty of Versailles. 217 00:11:38,654 --> 00:11:40,184 >>COREY: Right. 218 00:11:40,308 --> 00:11:45,008 And this group was formed,I guess, kind of as a carrot 219 00:11:45,139 --> 00:11:48,659 to all these othernations to keep them quiet 220 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:53,665 and to make them feel involvedin protecting the planet. 221 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,630 They were told that there wereall these different threats 222 00:11:58,761 --> 00:12:01,461 to the planet, and that they could 223 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:04,940 be involved in the solution. 224 00:12:05,072 --> 00:12:09,032 And they were provided bases and technology. 225 00:12:09,163 --> 00:12:13,343 But they were based entirelyoutside of the solar system. 226 00:12:13,471 --> 00:12:17,001 >>DAVID: So who in these countries 227 00:12:17,127 --> 00:12:19,957 were lucky enough to beprivy to this little world? 228 00:12:20,087 --> 00:12:21,957 Is this elected officials, people 229 00:12:22,089 --> 00:12:23,569 like prime ministers and presidents 230 00:12:23,699 --> 00:12:25,879 and cabinet ministers? 231 00:12:26,006 --> 00:12:30,836 >>COREY: I am not sure who ofthese countries knew about it. 232 00:12:30,967 --> 00:12:34,097 Just about every country you can imagine 233 00:12:34,231 --> 00:12:39,581 is involved at some levelin this space program. 234 00:12:39,715 --> 00:12:41,845 >>DAVID: So do you think that it may have more 235 00:12:41,978 --> 00:12:45,028 to do with high level intelligence agents 236 00:12:45,155 --> 00:12:47,545 in these countries and defense contractors, 237 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,509 military, high level militarypersonnel, the people who 238 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,380 outlast individual administrations 239 00:12:53,511 --> 00:12:54,691 and elected officials? 240 00:12:54,817 --> 00:12:57,817 >>COREY: Yes, and a lot of scientists. 241 00:12:57,951 --> 00:13:00,651 It seemed like a lot ofscientists were involved. 242 00:13:00,780 --> 00:13:02,650 >>DAVID: What about bankers and bean 243 00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:05,222 counter number cruncher typesrunning the financial system? 244 00:13:05,349 --> 00:13:07,439 >>COREY: They seem to havetheir finger in everything. 245 00:13:10,354 --> 00:13:12,104 >>DAVID: So walk us through as much 246 00:13:12,226 --> 00:13:14,526 as you know about-- you said this 247 00:13:14,663 --> 00:13:17,713 began in the '50s and '60s. 248 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,760 How were these people approached, 249 00:13:19,886 --> 00:13:22,796 and what do they see? 250 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:25,672 How were they brought off planet? 251 00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:27,805 What did they actually experience? 252 00:13:27,937 --> 00:13:29,767 How much did they get to know? 253 00:13:29,896 --> 00:13:33,376 >>COREY: This program was a fairly recent one. 254 00:13:33,508 --> 00:13:36,818 It didn't start back in the '50s and '60s. 255 00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:41,996 Back then is when they startedto find out what was going on. 256 00:13:42,125 --> 00:13:45,255 I believe this was somethingthat started probably 257 00:13:45,389 --> 00:13:50,259 at least in the '80s, maybe even '90s. 258 00:13:50,394 --> 00:13:52,354 It's fairly recent. 259 00:13:52,483 --> 00:13:57,313 And I'm not exactly sure of all the specifics 260 00:13:57,445 --> 00:14:00,925 of what propaganda they were fed. 261 00:14:01,057 --> 00:14:07,457 But I have been to one of their bases. 262 00:14:07,585 --> 00:14:15,065 And I described briefly inone episode one of the bases, 263 00:14:15,202 --> 00:14:19,902 but we didn't go super in detail about it. 264 00:14:20,033 --> 00:14:23,083 >>DAVID: So let's do that now. 265 00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:25,470 Did you travel there by a craft, or did you 266 00:14:25,603 --> 00:14:26,693 travel there by portal? 267 00:14:26,822 --> 00:14:28,742 How was the method of arrival? 268 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:33,258 >>COREY: Strangely enough, thiswas the underground tram system 269 00:14:33,394 --> 00:14:35,314 that you hear about. 270 00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:40,269 This underground tramtraveled through a portal, 271 00:14:40,401 --> 00:14:46,841 came out on what was a moon around a gas 272 00:14:46,973 --> 00:14:53,283 giant in another solarsystem, and then stopped. 273 00:14:53,414 --> 00:14:56,464 And then we disembarked. 274 00:14:56,591 --> 00:14:58,201 >>DAVID: It was on rails when it stopped? 275 00:14:58,332 --> 00:14:59,722 It was in a room? 276 00:14:59,855 --> 00:15:02,505 >>COREY: It came out of-- the tube 277 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,730 was hovering above a track. 278 00:15:07,471 --> 00:15:09,951 >>DAVID: Well, my space program insider Jacob 279 00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:13,653 described portaling in a sub shuttle system. 280 00:15:13,782 --> 00:15:17,052 And he said it's so fastthat most people don't even 281 00:15:17,177 --> 00:15:18,607 bother to sit down. 282 00:15:18,743 --> 00:15:21,663 Because all you do isstand there, hold the pole, 283 00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:25,140 and then you're out. 284 00:15:25,272 --> 00:15:26,932 >>COREY: I've been talking about going 285 00:15:27,056 --> 00:15:29,406 through a portal in train, and people 286 00:15:29,537 --> 00:15:31,407 have been telling me thatI'm the only one that's 287 00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:32,839 ever said that. 288 00:15:32,975 --> 00:15:34,185 >>DAVID: No, I heard this back in 2009, 2010. 289 00:15:34,324 --> 00:15:35,464 >>COREY: And that it's ridiculous. 290 00:15:35,586 --> 00:15:36,936 OK. 291 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:38,196 People have been telling me that it's ridiculous, 292 00:15:38,328 --> 00:15:39,588 that no one has ever said this before. 293 00:15:39,721 --> 00:15:41,031 >>DAVID: This is one of hundreds of things 294 00:15:41,157 --> 00:15:42,587 that I never put online so I could figure out 295 00:15:42,724 --> 00:15:45,474 who's who in the zoo. 296 00:15:45,596 --> 00:15:47,156 And you just verified it. 297 00:15:47,294 --> 00:15:48,034 >>COREY: OK. 298 00:15:48,164 --> 00:15:52,084 So as we disembarked-- 299 00:15:52,212 --> 00:15:54,082 >>DAVID: So it's hoveringhow far off the ground? 300 00:15:54,214 --> 00:15:54,954 >>COREY: Off of a-- 301 00:15:55,084 --> 00:15:55,824 >>DAVID: Off the track. 302 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:57,345 OK. 303 00:15:57,478 --> 00:15:58,868 >>COREY: It's not far,just barely off the track. 304 00:15:59,001 --> 00:16:00,521 >>DAVID: So just some kind of little gravity system 305 00:16:00,655 --> 00:16:01,785 or something. 306 00:16:01,917 --> 00:16:02,477 >>COREY: Yeah, like maglev, kind of. 307 00:16:04,572 --> 00:16:06,752 So we get out. 308 00:16:06,878 --> 00:16:08,748 And as we get out, the first thing you notice, 309 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,750 you hear announcements in English. 310 00:16:11,883 --> 00:16:13,763 >>DAVID: Can you see the sky, or are you indoors? 311 00:16:13,885 --> 00:16:16,145 >>COREY: No. 312 00:16:16,279 --> 00:16:18,979 Immediately, we're in what is like a cave, 313 00:16:19,108 --> 00:16:22,418 like a grotto kind of area. 314 00:16:22,546 --> 00:16:28,546 And we hear announcementsin English, just 315 00:16:28,683 --> 00:16:31,213 general announcements. 316 00:16:31,338 --> 00:16:33,688 >>DAVID: Is this like a tropical moon 317 00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:36,598 with lots of lush vegetationand water and rainfall? 318 00:16:36,734 --> 00:16:38,524 >>COREY: Well, all we could see at this moment 319 00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:40,349 was just the cave. 320 00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:44,307 And we could see people walking around. 321 00:16:44,438 --> 00:16:50,658 Their body language-- they werewalking in two, two together, 322 00:16:50,792 --> 00:16:54,672 maybe groups of four, like two and two 323 00:16:54,796 --> 00:16:56,966 behind each other, or three. 324 00:16:57,103 --> 00:16:58,713 Very relaxed. 325 00:16:58,843 --> 00:17:03,413 They seemed-- it was just very relaxed. 326 00:17:03,544 --> 00:17:05,594 >>DAVID: Are they wearingshorts and flip-flops? 327 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,030 >>COREY: No. 328 00:17:07,156 --> 00:17:11,286 They were wearing jump suits with the flags 329 00:17:11,421 --> 00:17:14,861 of their countries on the shoulder, 330 00:17:14,990 --> 00:17:21,390 very much like what is depictedin "Stargate Atlantis." 331 00:17:21,518 --> 00:17:23,168 >>DAVID: What color were the jump suits? 332 00:17:23,303 --> 00:17:26,223 Did they have different colorsdepending on rank or position? 333 00:17:26,349 --> 00:17:31,269 >>COREY: Different colors, but blue 334 00:17:31,398 --> 00:17:33,358 seems to be a big standard. 335 00:17:33,487 --> 00:17:34,307 >>DAVID: What color blue? 336 00:17:37,534 --> 00:17:41,364 >>COREY: I guess the colorthat the Air Force uses a lot. 337 00:17:41,495 --> 00:17:42,835 >>DAVID: Like a light blue? 338 00:17:42,974 --> 00:17:44,324 >>COREY: A dark-- like a royal blue. 339 00:17:44,454 --> 00:17:45,764 >>DAVID: A royal blue, OK. 340 00:17:45,890 --> 00:17:48,420 And you said they had flags of their country? 341 00:17:48,545 --> 00:17:50,895 >>COREY: They all had allthese different flags from all 342 00:17:51,026 --> 00:17:52,586 these different countries. 343 00:17:52,723 --> 00:17:54,423 >>DAVID: So what countriesdid you definitely recognize? 344 00:17:54,551 --> 00:17:56,211 >>COREY: Many of them I didn't recognize. 345 00:17:56,336 --> 00:18:02,256 But later, I recognized flagsfrom countries like Estonia 346 00:18:02,385 --> 00:18:06,645 and countries that-- the Ukraine. 347 00:18:06,781 --> 00:18:08,091 And-- 348 00:18:08,217 --> 00:18:09,607 >>DAVID: Latvia? 349 00:18:09,740 --> 00:18:12,830 >>COREY: Yeah, and stufflike-- flags that I never 350 00:18:12,961 --> 00:18:14,571 had seen and would recognize. 351 00:18:14,702 --> 00:18:16,182 >>DAVID: Anything from the Middle East? 352 00:18:16,312 --> 00:18:17,142 >>COREY: Greece. 353 00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:18,660 >>DAVID: Morocco, Algeria? 354 00:18:18,793 --> 00:18:21,403 >>COREY: People from thosecountries were involved, 355 00:18:21,535 --> 00:18:25,145 but I can't recall all ofthe flags that were seen. 356 00:18:25,278 --> 00:18:28,458 I didn't see thousands of people. 357 00:18:28,585 --> 00:18:32,495 I only saw a certain group ofpeople, the group of people 358 00:18:32,633 --> 00:18:33,903 that I saw. 359 00:18:34,025 --> 00:18:35,325 >>DAVID: Any countries from Africa, 360 00:18:35,462 --> 00:18:38,812 like Nigeria or Chad or Congo or Niger? 361 00:18:38,943 --> 00:18:41,863 >>COREY: There were peoplethat looked to be from Africa. 362 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:46,950 But I wasn't running aroundpeering my head around 363 00:18:47,082 --> 00:18:50,042 at peoples' shoulders. 364 00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:51,702 That would be too conspicuous. 365 00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:55,786 But people were obviouslyfrom everywhere. 366 00:18:55,917 --> 00:18:59,307 >>DAVID: So SouthAmerica, most of the five 367 00:18:59,442 --> 00:19:04,752 I's, the big Western countries--New Zealand, Australia, Canada, 368 00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:06,012 they were all represented? 369 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,275 >>COREY: Anywhere you can think of. 370 00:19:07,407 --> 00:19:09,627 >>DAVID: Wow. 371 00:19:09,757 --> 00:19:11,237 >>COREY: And as we-- 372 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:12,367 >>DAVID: And you said theylooked happy and relaxed? 373 00:19:12,499 --> 00:19:13,239 >>COREY: Yeah. 374 00:19:13,369 --> 00:19:14,629 It was nothing like-- 375 00:19:14,762 --> 00:19:15,502 >>DAVID: That doesn't seem normal for what 376 00:19:15,632 --> 00:19:16,162 you've been describing. 377 00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:17,455 >>COREY: No. 378 00:19:17,591 --> 00:19:20,591 The Mars colonies that we had visited, 379 00:19:20,724 --> 00:19:24,344 we were walked around by armed guard. 380 00:19:24,467 --> 00:19:27,507 We were told not to make eyecontact, speak to anybody. 381 00:19:27,644 --> 00:19:33,744 The people looked very gaunt andvery stressed out and unhappy. 382 00:19:33,868 --> 00:19:40,348 These people were 180 degrees different. 383 00:19:40,483 --> 00:19:44,973 So as we got off the train platform 384 00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:53,186 and were walking towards wherethe cave had been sealed off 385 00:19:53,322 --> 00:19:59,552 by a giant metal type wall with an entrance 386 00:19:59,676 --> 00:20:02,196 that you'd go through to go through security, 387 00:20:02,331 --> 00:20:03,681 we looked to the right. 388 00:20:03,811 --> 00:20:08,731 There was a big cave entrance going out. 389 00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:15,559 And it was like a tropical environment. 390 00:20:15,692 --> 00:20:18,092 And the different times we had been there, 391 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:27,047 there were moons that were atdifferent places in the sky. 392 00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:28,662 >>DAVID: How many moons do you remember 393 00:20:28,792 --> 00:20:29,712 seeing at any one time? 394 00:20:29,837 --> 00:20:30,577 >>COREY: Two. 395 00:20:30,707 --> 00:20:32,057 >>DAVID: OK. 396 00:20:32,187 --> 00:20:33,747 Were they larger in their apparent diameter 397 00:20:33,884 --> 00:20:34,494 than Earth's moon? 398 00:20:37,714 --> 00:20:39,674 >>COREY: Depending on their position, yeah, 399 00:20:39,803 --> 00:20:41,373 they looked larger. 400 00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:43,681 >>DAVID: Did they have anyunusual color or surface 401 00:20:43,807 --> 00:20:45,367 features? 402 00:20:45,505 --> 00:20:46,245 >>COREY: Orange. 403 00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:47,245 >>DAVID: Orange? 404 00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:48,596 >>COREY: One looked orange. 405 00:20:48,725 --> 00:20:50,595 And I really can't remember the other one, 406 00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:54,077 because we could always just see part of it. 407 00:20:54,209 --> 00:20:56,429 >>DAVID: Did either of themhave a ring or anything funny 408 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:57,079 like that? 409 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:58,472 >>COREY: No. 410 00:20:58,605 --> 00:20:59,685 >>DAVID: Could you see the gas giant planet 411 00:20:59,823 --> 00:21:00,873 that this was supposedly orbiting? 412 00:21:00,998 --> 00:21:03,738 >>COREY: I never saw the gas giant. 413 00:21:03,871 --> 00:21:07,441 But I was told it was around a gas giant. 414 00:21:07,570 --> 00:21:13,050 But there was a strangelyblue, luminescent pool. 415 00:21:13,184 --> 00:21:17,894 If you were looking straightout the cave, to the left, 416 00:21:18,015 --> 00:21:20,275 there was a strangely blue, luminescent pool 417 00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:27,459 with a little bit of awaterfall trickling down in it. 418 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:30,900 >>DAVID: Like built into stone? 419 00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:32,598 Like natural rocks? 420 00:21:32,726 --> 00:21:34,076 >>COREY: It was all natural. 421 00:21:34,205 --> 00:21:36,945 This wasn't man made. 422 00:21:37,078 --> 00:21:38,728 And there was like-- 423 00:21:38,862 --> 00:21:41,522 >>DAVID: But the blue, thatsounds man made, right? 424 00:21:41,648 --> 00:21:44,608 It was some kind of weird glow? 425 00:21:44,738 --> 00:21:46,868 >>COREY: I think this wasnatural for this planet. 426 00:21:47,001 --> 00:21:50,571 >>DAVID: Some weird, unusual thing in nature. 427 00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:53,440 >>COREY: And there was kind of a steam that 428 00:21:53,573 --> 00:21:58,883 just stayed real close tothe surface of the water. 429 00:21:59,013 --> 00:22:02,893 And there were people out therelaughing and talking and having 430 00:22:03,017 --> 00:22:05,667 RandR getting in the water. 431 00:22:05,802 --> 00:22:07,942 >>DAVID: So this isn't likethe "Chronicles of Riddick" 432 00:22:08,065 --> 00:22:09,585 where some horrific creature comes up 433 00:22:09,719 --> 00:22:11,979 with a tail and-- [makes hissing noise]. 434 00:22:12,113 --> 00:22:13,853 It's a very safe, happy place. 435 00:22:13,984 --> 00:22:15,554 >>COREY: Right. 436 00:22:15,682 --> 00:22:19,382 They were having RandR havingfun, getting in the water. 437 00:22:19,512 --> 00:22:21,302 >>DAVID: Did they have beach chairs around it, 438 00:22:21,427 --> 00:22:23,037 that kind of thing, towels? 439 00:22:23,167 --> 00:22:24,467 Did people-- 440 00:22:24,604 --> 00:22:28,264 >>COREY: Well, they had towels and swimwear, 441 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:30,520 and they were getting in getting the water, 442 00:22:30,653 --> 00:22:32,133 swimming around, getting out. 443 00:22:32,263 --> 00:22:34,663 >>DAVID: People having funin a space program colony? 444 00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:36,788 >>COREY: Yeah, they were having fun. 445 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,920 And then to the immediateleft was this big wall 446 00:22:41,055 --> 00:22:46,665 where you walk through togo into the actual facility 447 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,800 to where people were going in to do repairs. 448 00:22:50,934 --> 00:22:53,074 >>DAVID: What kind ofequipment was being repaired? 449 00:22:53,197 --> 00:22:55,547 >>COREY: Certain types of lab equipment 450 00:22:55,678 --> 00:22:59,378 that were involved in testing. 451 00:22:59,508 --> 00:23:02,468 It was different each time. 452 00:23:02,598 --> 00:23:04,908 It was highly specialty equipment 453 00:23:05,035 --> 00:23:10,035 that usually the ICC had produced. 454 00:23:10,171 --> 00:23:16,571 And either the ICC or the scientists 455 00:23:16,699 --> 00:23:20,009 that were assigned to the research vessels 456 00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:23,787 were proficient and working on. 457 00:23:23,924 --> 00:23:27,674 >>DAVID: What was the mojo about this spot? 458 00:23:27,797 --> 00:23:29,887 You were told it wasoutside our solar system? 459 00:23:30,017 --> 00:23:31,667 >>COREY: Right. 460 00:23:31,801 --> 00:23:35,411 >>DAVID: So was there somethingunique or valuable about it? 461 00:23:35,544 --> 00:23:41,464 Was it near other placeswhere other races had lived? 462 00:23:41,594 --> 00:23:43,474 Did it have tactical significance? 463 00:23:43,596 --> 00:23:46,636 >>COREY: The scuttlebutt wasthat it was in the Pleiades. 464 00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:48,083 >>DAVID: Oh, really? 465 00:23:48,209 --> 00:23:51,169 >>COREY: And a bunch of us didn't believe that, 466 00:23:51,299 --> 00:23:53,739 but that's what was said. 467 00:23:53,867 --> 00:23:57,907 But for some reason, the Pleiades 468 00:23:58,045 --> 00:24:01,085 seemed to be this kind of stampthat was put on everything. 469 00:24:04,312 --> 00:24:06,102 Oh, this came from the Pleiades. 470 00:24:06,227 --> 00:24:08,227 That was from the Pleiades. 471 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,969 Pleiades, Pleiades, Pleiades. 472 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:15,580 So it got to be, oh, this placeis located in the Pleiades. 473 00:24:15,715 --> 00:24:16,365 Oh, OK. 474 00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:17,278 That again. 475 00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:22,982 So that's what was told. 476 00:24:23,113 --> 00:24:24,593 But who knows where it really was. 477 00:24:24,724 --> 00:24:26,604 >>DAVID: Given the fact that there's seven stars 478 00:24:26,726 --> 00:24:29,026 in the Pleiades with a fairlybright magnitude that are all 479 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:32,173 in a relatively short amountof space next to each other-- 480 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:34,386 >>COREY: I'm told it's alarger star cluster than that. 481 00:24:34,516 --> 00:24:36,126 >>DAVID: Yeah. 482 00:24:36,257 --> 00:24:38,557 Those are, like I said, theseven most apparent magnitude 483 00:24:38,694 --> 00:24:41,614 of brightness of two or higher. 484 00:24:41,741 --> 00:24:44,091 Are you familiar with whether being 485 00:24:44,221 --> 00:24:46,011 on one of these stars in the Pleiades, 486 00:24:46,136 --> 00:24:48,396 if it actually is the Pleiades? 487 00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:50,140 Because the other stars are nearby, 488 00:24:50,271 --> 00:24:52,321 would they be larger than stars usually 489 00:24:52,447 --> 00:24:55,227 look to us in our solar system? 490 00:24:55,363 --> 00:25:01,503 >>COREY: When it comes to pointof view, where you are-- let's 491 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:06,940 say you're in the Pleiades,and you're looking at the sky. 492 00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:09,900 You have a whole new set of constellations. 493 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,420 Nothing looks the same. 494 00:25:12,554 --> 00:25:16,384 So your point of referenceis totally thrown off. 495 00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:20,735 There's really no way of beingable to judge where you are. 496 00:25:20,867 --> 00:25:28,087 Even for the egg heads,without the right equipment, 497 00:25:28,222 --> 00:25:33,792 when you arrive somewhere-- either if you don't know 498 00:25:33,923 --> 00:25:39,103 the address of where you're being sent prior 499 00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:43,023 or you don't have the rightequipment that tells you 500 00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:46,330 where you are, you don't know where you are. 501 00:25:46,457 --> 00:25:48,017 >>DAVID: Well, let me ask you this, then, 502 00:25:48,155 --> 00:25:49,845 just to kind of warm this up. 503 00:25:49,983 --> 00:25:52,033 You go a binary star system, let's say. 504 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:53,289 >>COREY: Most of them are. 505 00:25:53,421 --> 00:25:54,991 >>DAVID: OK. 506 00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:58,598 Do you see two suns if you'reon that planet in the sky? 507 00:25:58,731 --> 00:26:03,041 >>COREY: It depends on therelationship of the binary star 508 00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:04,650 system. 509 00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:13,140 But yes, you can see afaint star in the distance. 510 00:26:13,267 --> 00:26:15,697 >>DAVID: But it's not as big assome of the movies that we've 511 00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:17,045 seen would have it? 512 00:26:17,184 --> 00:26:18,494 It would be still pretty faint and distant? 513 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,270 >>COREY: Some of them are real close together. 514 00:26:20,404 --> 00:26:23,844 But these stars, thecloser they are together, 515 00:26:23,973 --> 00:26:26,023 the faster they spin around each other 516 00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:30,629 and the more dynamic the system is. 517 00:26:30,763 --> 00:26:36,033 The ones that seem to have more life on them 518 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:38,859 are the stars that are a little bit further apart 519 00:26:38,988 --> 00:26:45,208 but are dancing in agravitational dance together. 520 00:26:45,342 --> 00:26:47,432 >>DAVID: Let's go back to this space now. 521 00:26:47,562 --> 00:26:51,172 When you walked into this sealed off grotto, 522 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:53,955 was there anything about itthat looked cool or futuristic 523 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:56,400 that might help these peoplefeel like they were in a really 524 00:26:56,527 --> 00:27:00,437 advanced location, or was itall fairly conventional other 525 00:27:00,575 --> 00:27:04,265 than this weird glowing pool that you saw? 526 00:27:04,405 --> 00:27:09,055 >>COREY: They had much of the newer tools 527 00:27:09,192 --> 00:27:11,762 and toys of the ICC. 528 00:27:11,891 --> 00:27:17,421 I think they were given alot of new toys, technology 529 00:27:17,548 --> 00:27:20,548 to make them very happy. 530 00:27:20,682 --> 00:27:27,602 And they seemed to be doingjust a lot of research, 531 00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:29,003 tons of research. 532 00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:35,175 These people-- as a derogatory statement, 533 00:27:35,305 --> 00:27:38,655 they're often referred to--the scientists, as egg heads. 534 00:27:38,787 --> 00:27:41,917 And they would say they smelled as egg heads. 535 00:27:42,051 --> 00:27:49,191 But these people were obviouslyscientific or engineers, 536 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:52,799 scientific personnel orengineers for the most part. 537 00:27:52,932 --> 00:27:54,542 >>DAVID: Approximately how many personnel 538 00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:58,683 did you see walking aroundwhile you were there? 539 00:27:58,807 --> 00:28:02,897 >>COREY: Just out immediately,there were probably three 540 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:05,809 to four dozen. 541 00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:10,295 And there was not a large security presence. 542 00:28:10,427 --> 00:28:15,167 Did not see a lot of peoplerunning around with weapons. 543 00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:17,652 It was just very relaxed and laid back. 544 00:28:17,783 --> 00:28:20,793 Wherever they were, they felt very secure. 545 00:28:20,916 --> 00:28:29,446 And the energy, the feeling,the intuitive empath, 546 00:28:29,577 --> 00:28:33,187 the feeling of all the peoplewas there was no anxiety, 547 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,930 there was no agitation. 548 00:28:36,062 --> 00:28:37,452 They felt happy. 549 00:28:37,585 --> 00:28:41,755 They felt like what theywere doing was important. 550 00:28:41,894 --> 00:28:52,734 And there was a feeling ofhappiness and just relaxation. 551 00:28:52,861 --> 00:28:54,861 >>DAVID: Well, we're downto our last five minutes. 552 00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:56,824 But I want to throw a few quick ones at you just 553 00:28:56,952 --> 00:28:58,612 to round this out. 554 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:01,257 Did you see a hangar that hadany type of unusual craft in it 555 00:29:01,391 --> 00:29:04,311 that they could use to fly around with? 556 00:29:04,438 --> 00:29:07,958 >>COREY: They had a hangar,but we didn't go to the hangar. 557 00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:09,844 >>DAVID: Did they have any land vehicles 558 00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:13,835 that they would use toventure out from this grotto 559 00:29:13,969 --> 00:29:15,879 to the rest of that moon? 560 00:29:16,015 --> 00:29:17,095 >>COREY: Not that I saw. 561 00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:20,243 And I didn't see any type of tracks. 562 00:29:23,631 --> 00:29:34,861 Inside, they did have somebattery-powered trucks, 563 00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:40,520 small cabbed trucks that were driving around 564 00:29:40,648 --> 00:29:44,868 with plastic crates in them in one area. 565 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,570 >>DAVID: Did the moon have an atmosphere? 566 00:29:46,697 --> 00:29:47,257 >>COREY: Mm hmm. 567 00:29:47,394 --> 00:29:49,354 >>DAVID: It did? 568 00:29:49,483 --> 00:29:51,053 Was it breathable? 569 00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:52,750 >>COREY: Obviously. 570 00:29:52,878 --> 00:29:57,058 People were out there outsidethe entrance of the cave. 571 00:29:57,186 --> 00:29:59,146 There was vegetation. 572 00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:01,095 >>DAVID: Outside the cavethere was vegetation? 573 00:30:01,234 --> 00:30:02,454 >>COREY: Right. 574 00:30:02,583 --> 00:30:03,893 >>DAVID: So this is not some arid moon. 575 00:30:04,019 --> 00:30:05,539 Because when we think of a moon, we're usually 576 00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:07,203 thinking of a big, dead orb. 577 00:30:07,327 --> 00:30:08,717 >>COREY: No. 578 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:15,470 Many of the inhabitablespheres that are out there 579 00:30:15,596 --> 00:30:18,286 are not planets in the Goldilocks 580 00:30:18,425 --> 00:30:20,555 zone around their stars. 581 00:30:20,688 --> 00:30:28,218 They are moons within acertain density and size that 582 00:30:28,348 --> 00:30:37,178 are orbiting a gas giantin a certain orbit of a gas 583 00:30:37,313 --> 00:30:40,193 giant that is a certain density and size. 584 00:30:40,316 --> 00:30:45,886 And that gas giant can beany distance from its sun. 585 00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:48,758 >>DAVID: How big would the gasgiant be on one of these moons? 586 00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:49,980 What's the scale? 587 00:30:50,109 --> 00:30:51,589 Could it be actually something that's 588 00:30:51,719 --> 00:30:53,849 so large that it fills uphalf the apparent diameter 589 00:30:53,982 --> 00:30:55,772 of the sky that you're looking at at one point, 590 00:30:55,897 --> 00:30:58,597 or is it farther away than that? 591 00:30:58,726 --> 00:31:01,636 >>COREY: I would have to be speculating. 592 00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:05,042 I haven't seen myself. 593 00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:06,997 >>DAVID: It would appear that some of Jupiter's 594 00:31:07,126 --> 00:31:08,996 moons, if you were on one of those, 595 00:31:09,128 --> 00:31:13,388 that Jupiter would be verylarge from what you could see. 596 00:31:13,523 --> 00:31:15,443 So that would be a veryinteresting place to live. 597 00:31:15,569 --> 00:31:16,829 >>COREY: Right. 598 00:31:16,962 --> 00:31:23,972 And I believe that these inhabitable moons 599 00:31:24,099 --> 00:31:26,009 would need to be a little bit larger 600 00:31:26,145 --> 00:31:28,705 than some of these moons and a little bit 601 00:31:28,843 --> 00:31:31,543 further or a little bit further away 602 00:31:31,672 --> 00:31:36,812 than the orbits of the onesaround Jupiter or Saturn 603 00:31:36,938 --> 00:31:39,418 because of the tidal forces they have 604 00:31:39,549 --> 00:31:44,549 to deal with being in so close to Jupiter. 605 00:31:44,685 --> 00:31:47,465 >>DAVID: What are they told they're doing? 606 00:31:47,601 --> 00:31:49,081 What are they preparing for? 607 00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:50,261 What is their mission? 608 00:31:50,386 --> 00:31:52,816 What is their objective? 609 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:55,354 >>COREY: They're told that they're coming up 610 00:31:55,478 --> 00:32:00,658 with science and technologiesthat will help the planet 611 00:32:00,788 --> 00:32:06,358 Earth in case of or in preparation 612 00:32:06,489 --> 00:32:15,759 of an outside alienthreat, just like we heard 613 00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:17,940 President Reagan talking about. 614 00:32:18,066 --> 00:32:24,806 And that President Reagan clip may 615 00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:27,513 have been meant for this group. 616 00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:29,601 >>DAVID: It sounds like it. 617 00:32:29,730 --> 00:32:33,950 So they're essentially trying toestablish a defensive foothold 618 00:32:34,082 --> 00:32:38,132 to save Earth from what theyperceive as an incoming threat? 619 00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:40,440 >>COREY: I don't know ifthey're setting up a foothold, 620 00:32:40,567 --> 00:32:44,877 but I think that they're workingon science and technologies 621 00:32:45,006 --> 00:32:53,486 that they ferventlybelieve will help humanity 622 00:32:53,623 --> 00:32:57,063 protect the planet Earth. 623 00:32:57,192 --> 00:32:58,762 >>DAVID: How much knowledge do you think 624 00:32:58,889 --> 00:33:00,629 they have of extraterrestrials? 625 00:33:00,761 --> 00:33:03,371 Are they kept in the dark? 626 00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:06,073 Are they told similarly to the military faction, 627 00:33:06,201 --> 00:33:08,071 you guys are it, andeverything else is ancient, 628 00:33:08,203 --> 00:33:10,423 but there may be some outthere that we don't know about, 629 00:33:10,553 --> 00:33:12,643 and we've got to defendourselves if they show up? 630 00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:14,213 Is it something like that? 631 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:16,730 >>COREY: From what I'vefound out since all of this 632 00:33:16,864 --> 00:33:21,524 has happened, that they havebeen heavily compartmentalized. 633 00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:23,391 >>DAVID: So they really don't know anything 634 00:33:23,523 --> 00:33:25,573 about the full spectrumof what's really going on? 635 00:33:25,699 --> 00:33:28,399 >>COREY: They know some of the spectrum, 636 00:33:28,528 --> 00:33:35,838 but they do not know as muchas some of the other programs. 637 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:37,580 >>DAVID: So this is like a little mushroom 638 00:33:37,711 --> 00:33:39,931 patch for this space program. 639 00:33:40,061 --> 00:33:41,671 >>COREY: Compartmentalization. 640 00:33:41,802 --> 00:33:45,982 The lie is different on eachlevel and in each compartment. 641 00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:47,851 Everyone in eachcompartment is told you're 642 00:33:47,982 --> 00:33:49,942 at the top of the totem pole. 643 00:33:50,071 --> 00:33:54,771 You are the tip of the sphere for the planet. 644 00:33:54,902 --> 00:33:57,172 You should be very proud of what you're doing. 645 00:33:57,296 --> 00:33:59,036 No one knows more than you. 646 00:33:59,167 --> 00:34:02,997 You're very special, very special. 647 00:34:03,128 --> 00:34:07,478 You've been cleared to know morethan anyone else on the planet. 648 00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:10,700 Everyone in every compartmentis told the same thing, 649 00:34:10,831 --> 00:34:12,441 and they believe it. 650 00:34:12,572 --> 00:34:14,922 >>DAVID: Well, it seems tome that this is a perfect way 651 00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:18,623 to keep the oppositionsilenced-- by giving them 652 00:34:18,752 --> 00:34:21,842 some biscuits and saying,here, here's your tasty treat. 653 00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:26,152 Now go leave us alone offon this moon somewhere else. 654 00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:27,281 Well, you've heard it here. 655 00:34:27,413 --> 00:34:28,813 This is "Cosmic Disclosure." 656 00:34:28,936 --> 00:34:30,936 Very mind blowing information. 657 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:33,589 And there's much, muchmore where this came from. 658 00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:36,073 We have 52 episodes, and we may even 659 00:34:36,204 --> 00:34:37,814 be doing more past that point. 660 00:34:37,945 --> 00:34:40,335 So every week, you're going tobe hearing fascinating stuff 661 00:34:40,469 --> 00:34:41,209 like this. 662 00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:42,990 So please stay tuned. 663 00:34:43,124 --> 00:34:46,354 I'm your host, David Wilcock,and we thank you for watching.