1 00:00:02,649 --> 00:00:05,550 Under the provisions of Title 2 2 00:00:05,550 --> 00:00:07,949 of the 1950 Internal Security Act, 3 00:00:07,949 --> 00:00:10,750 also known as the McCarran Act, 4 00:00:10,750 --> 00:00:13,850 the President of the United States of America 5 00:00:13,850 --> 00:00:18,750 is still authorised, without further approval by Congress 6 00:00:18,750 --> 00:00:23,649 to determine an event of insurrection within the United States 7 00:00:23,649 --> 00:00:29,350 and to declare the existence of an 'internal security emergency '. 8 00:00:29,350 --> 00:00:31,649 The President is then authorised 9 00:00:31,649 --> 00:00:34,850 to apprehend and detain each person 10 00:00:34,850 --> 00:00:38,750 as to whom there is reasonable ground to believe 11 00:00:38,750 --> 00:00:43,950 probably will engage in certain future acts of sabotage. 12 00:00:43,950 --> 00:00:47,750 Persons apprehended shall be given a hearing 13 00:00:47,750 --> 00:00:49,849 without right of bail, 14 00:00:49,849 --> 00:00:52,150 without the necessity of evidence, 15 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:58,150 and shall then be confined to places of detention. 16 00:01:04,049 --> 00:01:08,849 'KBCR News, the Southlands' most comprehensive news coverage. 17 00:01:08,849 --> 00:01:11,349 'The President signed an executive order 18 00:01:11,349 --> 00:01:12,849 'calling to immediate duty 19 00:01:12,849 --> 00:01:15,150 '100,000 reservists. 20 00:01:15,150 --> 00:01:17,150 'Pentagon sources indicate 21 00:01:17,150 --> 00:01:20,450 'that at least 20,000 of these newly mobilised troops 22 00:01:20,450 --> 00:01:21,849 'would be sent to North-East Asia 23 00:01:21,849 --> 00:01:24,150 'in response to the shelling of Seoul, 24 00:01:24,150 --> 00:01:26,549 'capital of South Korea, last week. 25 00:01:26,549 --> 00:01:27,950 'Sources gave no indication 26 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:30,650 'as to how the remaining reservists might be used. 27 00:01:30,650 --> 00:01:32,950 'It was neither confirmed nor denied 28 00:01:32,950 --> 00:01:36,049 'that they would help law enforcement officials 29 00:01:36,049 --> 00:01:41,450 'deal with the current domestic disorders.' 30 00:01:44,650 --> 00:01:47,750 'At least 273 Americans are reported killed, 31 00:01:47,750 --> 00:01:50,050 'and a further 492 wounded, 32 00:01:50,050 --> 00:01:51,650 'as an advance force 33 00:01:51,650 --> 00:01:54,949 'of 30,000 US, Cambodian and South Korean soldiers 34 00:01:54,949 --> 00:01:59,550 'drove deep yesterday into the Hill 98 and Whalesback regions of Laos 35 00:01:59,550 --> 00:02:04,949 'in the heaviest attack so far since the war was extended.' 36 00:02:04,949 --> 00:02:07,449 Patrick John Edwards, you have been found guilty 37 00:02:07,449 --> 00:02:09,449 of conspiracy to undermine the national security 38 00:02:09,449 --> 00:02:11,449 and intent to incite to riot. 39 00:02:11,449 --> 00:02:16,050 You are sentenced to 15 to 21 years in a federal penitentiary. 40 00:02:16,050 --> 00:02:19,650 You have the alternative of undergoing four days in Punishment Park. 41 00:02:19,650 --> 00:02:21,250 How do you choose? 42 00:02:21,250 --> 00:02:24,050 I'd like to thank the court for its fairness... 43 00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:26,949 Defendant, silence! How do you choose? 44 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:29,849 Punishment Park. 45 00:02:29,849 --> 00:02:32,449 Time 9:00am. 46 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:35,750 The Bear Mountain National Punishment Park 47 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:37,849 in Southern California. 48 00:02:37,849 --> 00:02:39,750 Right there. Stop. 49 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:43,150 You right behind him. Right there. 50 00:02:43,150 --> 00:02:47,150 You over there. Next man. 51 00:02:49,949 --> 00:02:53,150 OK. That woman there. The last man in line. 52 00:02:53,150 --> 00:02:54,650 Go on into the tent. 53 00:02:54,650 --> 00:02:59,250 The 47th Emergency Internal Security Tribunal for the SW Region - 54 00:02:59,250 --> 00:03:01,750 as authorised by executive order no. 302, 55 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:04,650 William C. Hoeger, Chairman, presiding - 56 00:03:04,650 --> 00:03:08,250 is hereby concluded. 57 00:03:09,949 --> 00:03:13,150 'The UN today became the focus of world attention 58 00:03:13,150 --> 00:03:15,349 'as the US delegate challenged the Russians 59 00:03:15,349 --> 00:03:18,849 'to admit that their submarines had moved into the Caribbean. 60 00:03:18,849 --> 00:03:20,949 'He made it clear that the US 61 00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:23,150 'will tolerate no threats to its sovereignty, 62 00:03:23,150 --> 00:03:24,849 'and he accused the Soviets of trying 63 00:03:24,849 --> 00:03:27,949 'to divert world attention from their actions in the Middle East. 64 00:03:27,949 --> 00:03:30,750 'After heated discussion, the US delegate indicated 65 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:34,449 'that the communist bloc were responsible for the tripling 66 00:03:34,449 --> 00:03:35,849 'of our monthly draft calls. 67 00:03:35,849 --> 00:03:38,250 'He denied the Russian delegate's accusation 68 00:03:38,250 --> 00:03:41,750 'that the US government is building up a large standing army 69 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:47,050 'for the suppression of its own people.'. 70 00:03:51,150 --> 00:03:57,149 Do you like your job of slaughtering young people? 71 00:03:58,750 --> 00:04:01,850 'Senator George McLewis resigned from the Senate today 72 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:04,750 'after 22 years of active service. 73 00:04:04,750 --> 00:04:07,350 'He said in a press conference shortly after 74 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:11,949 'that he could no longer participate in what he called the dismantling 75 00:04:11,949 --> 00:04:15,149 'of basic freedoms for which this country was established. 76 00:04:15,149 --> 00:04:17,649 'In a prepared statement, he mentioned specifically 77 00:04:17,649 --> 00:04:21,050 'the types of 'repressive' legislation 78 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:23,550 'which led to his sudden resignation, 79 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:26,149 'including the no-knock and stop-and-frisk laws, 80 00:04:26,149 --> 00:04:29,750 'cancellation of immunity from 5th Amendment cases, 81 00:04:29,750 --> 00:04:31,350 'preventative detention, 82 00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:33,149 'the activation of detention camps, 83 00:04:33,149 --> 00:04:36,949 'and quasi-judicial tribunals. 84 00:04:36,949 --> 00:04:39,649 'He said that he was particularly disturbed 85 00:04:39,649 --> 00:04:45,250 'by the activities of the Punishment Parks.'. 86 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:52,750 The Marshal will now bring the 48th session to order. 87 00:04:53,850 --> 00:04:58,449 The 48th Emergency Internal Security Tribunal of the SW Region, 88 00:04:58,449 --> 00:05:02,550 as authorised by Executive Order number 302, is now in session. 89 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:05,550 William C. Hoeger, Chairman, presiding. 90 00:05:05,550 --> 00:05:08,449 Reporting a motion for dismissal at this time. 91 00:05:08,449 --> 00:05:11,350 - On what grounds? - Constitutional. 92 00:05:11,350 --> 00:05:13,550 In particular, 1st, 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments. 93 00:05:13,550 --> 00:05:15,750 Motion overruled. 94 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:18,250 How the fuck you can overrule the Constitution, man! 95 00:05:18,250 --> 00:05:20,350 Keep the defendant silent. 96 00:05:20,350 --> 00:05:22,649 If it please the court, I'd like to introduce a motion to have 97 00:05:22,649 --> 00:05:25,250 the convictions reviewed separately. 98 00:05:25,250 --> 00:05:26,350 Denied. 99 00:05:26,350 --> 00:05:30,350 In that case, and with all due respect to the Tribunal, 100 00:05:30,350 --> 00:05:33,149 may I move that the court permit voir dire proceedings? 101 00:05:33,149 --> 00:05:35,750 Denied. 102 00:05:36,850 --> 00:05:38,949 Will the court set bail? 103 00:05:38,949 --> 00:05:41,550 Some defendants have been in jail for months. 104 00:05:41,550 --> 00:05:44,550 We don't even know what we were arrested for in the first place. 105 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:46,949 Keep the defendants quiet! Bail denied. 106 00:05:46,949 --> 00:05:48,949 Deny, deny, deny! 107 00:05:48,949 --> 00:05:50,550 We've been in jail for two months 108 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:53,250 and we don't know what we were arrested for. 109 00:05:53,250 --> 00:05:57,350 - Keep the defendants quiet. - Shut up! 110 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:58,750 Lee Robert Brown, Jay Kaufman, 111 00:05:58,750 --> 00:06:00,750 James Arthur Kohler, Allison Michener, 112 00:06:00,750 --> 00:06:03,850 Charles Robbins, Nancy Smith, William Vallery. 113 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:09,250 You stand guilty of conspiracy to undermine the national security 114 00:06:09,250 --> 00:06:11,350 and of separate charges which will be innumerate 115 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:13,350 and so indicted and convicted 116 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:16,050 at the preliminary hearings of the 5th Emergency Court 117 00:06:16,050 --> 00:06:18,949 of the 44th Precinct in the District of Glendale, 118 00:06:18,949 --> 00:06:25,050 Captain Edward Rubin, Sheriff, presiding, May 24th. 119 00:06:27,649 --> 00:06:31,449 Temperature 89 degrees. 120 00:06:38,949 --> 00:06:40,850 At the time of your sentencing 121 00:06:40,850 --> 00:06:43,750 you will be able to choose between a penal sentence duly passed 122 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:49,350 or accept the alternative of Punishment Park. 123 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:51,550 Punishment Park described by 124 00:06:51,550 --> 00:06:55,149 the US Senate Subcommittee On Law And Order as, 125 00:06:55,149 --> 00:06:57,350 '... a necessary training 126 00:06:57,350 --> 00:07:00,850 'for the law officers and National Guard of the country' 127 00:07:00,850 --> 00:07:03,750 'in the control of those elements who seek 128 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:06,949 'the violent overthrow of the US government.' 129 00:07:06,949 --> 00:07:10,649 'Sand the means of providing a punitive deterrent 130 00:07:10,649 --> 00:07:13,949 'for said subversive elements.' 131 00:07:13,949 --> 00:07:17,050 You will speak only when you are spoken to and at no other times. 132 00:07:17,050 --> 00:07:18,649 Each violation of this ruling 133 00:07:18,649 --> 00:07:21,050 will result in a citation for contempt of court 134 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:23,149 of one year in a federal penitentiary 135 00:07:23,149 --> 00:07:25,550 in addition to the sentence duly passed. 136 00:07:25,550 --> 00:07:28,750 Finally, I wish to announce that we have with us at this time 137 00:07:28,750 --> 00:07:31,050 television cameras of the National Network. 138 00:07:31,050 --> 00:07:34,949 Also those of Britain and West Germany. 139 00:07:34,949 --> 00:07:38,850 It is hoped to document these proceedings in the widest manner, 140 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:40,550 as we know their import 141 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:43,750 to be of vital concern to the people of the free world everywhere. 142 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:45,949 Their coverage will be impartial. 143 00:07:45,949 --> 00:07:48,550 - Bullshit! - This trial is illegitimate. 144 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:52,850 - This trial is illegitimate... - Quiet! 145 00:07:52,850 --> 00:07:58,250 These are the members of Corrective Group 638, 146 00:07:58,250 --> 00:08:03,949 and these, the members of Corrective Group 637 147 00:08:04,050 --> 00:08:10,549 now sentenced to spending three days in Punishment Park. 148 00:08:20,850 --> 00:08:24,149 First defendant. 149 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:28,649 - What's your name? - My name is Brown, motherfucker! 150 00:08:28,649 --> 00:08:31,149 Lee Robert Brown, well-known author, 151 00:08:31,149 --> 00:08:33,450 broadcaster and political activist. 152 00:08:33,450 --> 00:08:37,049 I want to be tried by a jury of my peers, that means black people! 153 00:08:37,049 --> 00:08:41,450 In front of witnesses who identify themselves. 154 00:08:41,450 --> 00:08:44,350 Witnesses! Here! 155 00:08:44,350 --> 00:08:50,350 Keep the defendant silent! Restrain the defendant! 156 00:08:52,850 --> 00:08:54,250 'No end for the heat wave 157 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:58,250 'which has been frying Los Angeles for three months. 158 00:08:58,250 --> 00:09:00,549 'Temperatures today will top 100° 159 00:09:00,549 --> 00:09:03,450 'for the 12th straight day in downtown LA, 160 00:09:03,450 --> 00:09:05,549 'with the Valley due for 105°. 161 00:09:05,549 --> 00:09:07,950 'Tonight's low will be 79°. 162 00:09:07,950 --> 00:09:14,549 'The deserts can expect mercury readings of 115° plus.'. 163 00:09:16,049 --> 00:09:18,149 You have accepted this course of your own volition 164 00:09:18,149 --> 00:09:21,049 as an alternative to your penal sentences. 165 00:09:21,049 --> 00:09:24,250 You have 3 days and 2 nights in which to reach 166 00:09:24,250 --> 00:09:28,549 the US flag flying 4.5 miles due north of the Bear Shadow Mountains. 167 00:09:28,549 --> 00:09:33,149 These you can see to your front. 168 00:09:34,350 --> 00:09:38,049 These mountains are 16.5 miles from the spot where you are standing. 169 00:09:38,049 --> 00:09:44,549 You will direct yourselves toward the indicating lights. 170 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:51,549 Pursuit Leader to 245, ready your signal. 171 00:09:56,149 --> 00:09:58,049 You will head past this point, 172 00:09:58,049 --> 00:10:01,250 immediately turn west - that is to your left - 173 00:10:01,250 --> 00:10:04,750 and proceed 13 to 17 miles along the lie of the mountains 174 00:10:04,750 --> 00:10:08,149 until you reach a second set of flags. 175 00:10:08,149 --> 00:10:11,049 There you will turn north across the intervening plain, 176 00:10:11,049 --> 00:10:16,049 and pass directly to the following hills, a further distance of 19 miles, 177 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:18,350 and proceed directly to the US flag. 178 00:10:18,350 --> 00:10:21,450 'Mr Brown, did you actually advocate overthrow 179 00:10:21,450 --> 00:10:24,149 'of these, our United States?' 180 00:10:24,149 --> 00:10:26,049 I refuse to answer that question 181 00:10:26,049 --> 00:10:28,250 on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me. 182 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:31,450 That's my right under the 5th Amendment of the US constitution. 183 00:10:31,450 --> 00:10:33,049 And overrule that! 184 00:10:33,049 --> 00:10:36,750 Defendant, defendant, it's people like you... 185 00:10:36,750 --> 00:10:40,549 Objection, Mr Chairman! 186 00:10:45,649 --> 00:10:47,450 Let that man alone! 187 00:10:47,450 --> 00:10:50,250 The object of this course is simple. 188 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:54,049 Clear the tribunal! Clear the tribunal! 189 00:10:54,049 --> 00:10:56,950 You must evade capture by the pursuing law enforcement officers 190 00:10:56,950 --> 00:10:59,750 and reach the flag by the appointed time, 191 00:10:59,750 --> 00:11:06,450 That is to say 10pm on the evening of the 3rd day from now. 192 00:11:06,950 --> 00:11:10,250 You fucking pig! 193 00:11:10,850 --> 00:11:13,750 Each one of them, take them out of here. 194 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:17,250 Clear the tribunal. 195 00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:20,950 Your capture or your failure to complete the course in time 196 00:11:20,950 --> 00:11:24,549 will result in the reversion to your penal sentence. 197 00:11:24,549 --> 00:11:28,250 Are you or are you not a member of the Communist Party? 198 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:30,250 Objection. 199 00:11:30,250 --> 00:11:33,149 I'll answer that motherfucking question! 200 00:11:33,149 --> 00:11:36,750 Watch your language. 201 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:39,850 Do you think my language is immoral? 202 00:11:39,850 --> 00:11:43,850 What do you call that shit you just did, man? 203 00:11:43,850 --> 00:11:45,850 What do you call this shit? 204 00:11:45,850 --> 00:11:52,049 Give your side-arm to Sepada and go unlock the prisoners. 205 00:11:52,049 --> 00:11:54,350 Were you going to call for revolution on that television? 206 00:11:54,350 --> 00:11:58,049 What do you want me to say? I told you the truth. 207 00:11:58,049 --> 00:11:59,950 The truth as you saw it? 208 00:11:59,950 --> 00:12:01,350 I would tell the truth, 209 00:12:01,350 --> 00:12:04,750 I would tell the story of black people like it has never been told, 210 00:12:04,750 --> 00:12:07,549 cos you never tell it, cos they never tell it. 211 00:12:07,549 --> 00:12:10,350 I would say what happens to Chicanos in this country, 212 00:12:10,350 --> 00:12:12,950 because the fruit-growers ain't gonna tell it. 213 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:17,350 And either they or members of their club buy the time on that television set. 214 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:21,149 I would tell what happens to people who are poor 215 00:12:21,149 --> 00:12:24,350 and uneducated and automated out of a job, 216 00:12:24,350 --> 00:12:28,350 who stand in long fucking lines talking to little people like you 217 00:12:28,350 --> 00:12:33,350 with delusions of power in unemployment lines all day long 218 00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:37,250 to be fucked off because your old man didn't ball you right last night. 219 00:12:37,250 --> 00:12:39,450 Watch your language, there's a lady in the court. 220 00:12:39,450 --> 00:12:41,450 Where? 221 00:12:41,450 --> 00:12:44,350 The truth is the fact that you're devouring your children. 222 00:12:44,350 --> 00:12:48,450 The fact that you're oppressing the people who are powerless in the country. 223 00:12:48,450 --> 00:12:52,649 - And what would you do? - A few of the people are living... 224 00:12:52,649 --> 00:12:56,450 Do you want to listen or do you want to talk? 225 00:12:56,450 --> 00:12:59,850 Continue, Mr Brown. Tell us your message. 226 00:12:59,850 --> 00:13:03,250 You don't wanna hear my message, man. 227 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:07,149 You've spent 50 years evolving a propaganda system 228 00:13:07,149 --> 00:13:10,149 that'll take the truth and change it into what you want to hear. 229 00:13:10,149 --> 00:13:13,549 You don't want to hear shit that means having to give up something. 230 00:13:13,549 --> 00:13:16,450 You don't want it. 231 00:13:16,450 --> 00:13:20,649 All you want to do is sit on your fat ass and draw dividends! 232 00:13:20,649 --> 00:13:23,750 Did I react to the names that you called me? 233 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:25,950 As your people just reacted moments ago? 234 00:13:25,950 --> 00:13:29,250 You called me pig and other names. Did I react? 235 00:13:29,250 --> 00:13:34,750 You're in a different position, man. All I can do is call you a dirty name. 236 00:13:34,750 --> 00:13:37,750 These officers have... 237 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:43,950 ...strict instructions not to molest you in any way, 238 00:13:46,549 --> 00:13:50,350 or to hinder you from reaching your ultimate destination. 239 00:13:50,350 --> 00:13:55,149 However they will not allow you to leave the boundary of the course. 240 00:13:55,149 --> 00:13:57,450 It has been stated, and it's a fact, 241 00:13:57,450 --> 00:14:02,250 there are more TV sets and cars owned by black people in the USA 242 00:14:02,250 --> 00:14:03,649 than in all of Russia. 243 00:14:03,649 --> 00:14:04,649 So what? 244 00:14:04,649 --> 00:14:07,049 That shows a very intense interest 245 00:14:07,049 --> 00:14:12,049 in the economics of this country, in your people. 246 00:14:12,049 --> 00:14:15,450 They have a standard of living that's better than any in the world. 247 00:14:15,450 --> 00:14:19,850 Hey, man. You can say an identical thing 248 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:21,549 for every animal in the zoo. 249 00:14:21,549 --> 00:14:26,149 I'm sure their standard of living has increased - they certainly eat better. 250 00:14:26,149 --> 00:14:28,649 The time is now 9:54 am. 251 00:14:28,649 --> 00:14:30,649 At 10:00 you will commence the course. 252 00:14:30,649 --> 00:14:33,350 At 12:00 noon, that's to say two hours from now, 253 00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:36,149 the pursuit forces will be set in motion against you. 254 00:14:36,149 --> 00:14:37,750 Today's pursuit force will consist 255 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:39,450 of a unit of the National Guard, 256 00:14:39,450 --> 00:14:42,850 part of the tactical riot squad of a city police department, 257 00:14:42,850 --> 00:14:44,549 and three federal marshals. 258 00:14:44,549 --> 00:14:47,350 At the 5 de Mayo Congress Of Chicano Youth 259 00:14:47,350 --> 00:14:49,450 the defendant was quoted saying, 260 00:14:49,450 --> 00:14:51,950 'To you, I say: Free your communities. Arm yourselves.' 261 00:14:51,950 --> 00:14:54,250 'If the pigs comprehend nothing but force, then use it.' 262 00:14:54,250 --> 00:14:56,250 'Liberate yourself. Off the pigs!' 263 00:14:56,250 --> 00:15:00,649 'Kill the chief pig! Liquidate the mayor...' 264 00:15:00,649 --> 00:15:02,750 Anybody can lift that shit out of context. 265 00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:05,049 You had your chance to speak. 266 00:15:05,049 --> 00:15:07,450 Let Agent Donovan finish his statement. 267 00:15:07,450 --> 00:15:10,649 - This is all we have. - Pig Donovan. 268 00:15:10,649 --> 00:15:14,350 This man is calling for violence, for the destruction of this country. 269 00:15:14,350 --> 00:15:16,549 And it's doing more than just for himself. 270 00:15:16,549 --> 00:15:19,549 His people are spreading this all over the country. 271 00:15:19,549 --> 00:15:22,649 In the factory where I work all kinds of people are reading his stuff. 272 00:15:22,649 --> 00:15:25,750 It's all over the place. Mainly the coloured people are reading it. 273 00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:28,750 And he's stirring them up, talking about legitimate problems that we have, 274 00:15:28,750 --> 00:15:31,450 trying to pose his violent alternatives to it. 275 00:15:31,450 --> 00:15:36,149 You talk as if this is some great civilised, non-violent place. 276 00:15:36,149 --> 00:15:39,850 And it ain't. America 277 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:44,649 is as psychotic as it is powerful, 278 00:15:44,649 --> 00:15:51,750 and violence is the only thing that will command your attention. 279 00:15:52,250 --> 00:15:55,850 No way, you bastard! 280 00:15:57,850 --> 00:16:00,750 This country, this America, 281 00:16:00,750 --> 00:16:03,649 was born in violence. 282 00:16:03,649 --> 00:16:06,149 Now revolution's a violent thing. 283 00:16:06,149 --> 00:16:09,549 Get him! Get him! 284 00:16:13,450 --> 00:16:17,450 Bring him back over here. 285 00:16:18,450 --> 00:16:21,649 I'm in this place right now 286 00:16:21,649 --> 00:16:24,850 because my people, my forebears, 287 00:16:24,850 --> 00:16:30,250 were violently brought here, like this, in chains, from Africa, 288 00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:33,350 where they were violently made to work. 289 00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:36,350 It was upon the labour of their backs 290 00:16:36,350 --> 00:16:38,549 that you so violently wrung out of them 291 00:16:38,549 --> 00:16:40,649 that this country was industrialised. 292 00:16:40,649 --> 00:16:43,049 Right away, right at first. 293 00:16:43,049 --> 00:16:47,349 This land and all the rest that belongs to the country, 294 00:16:47,349 --> 00:16:50,150 was violently taken from the Indians. 295 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:52,950 Violently. 296 00:16:56,450 --> 00:16:59,849 The time 10:03am. 297 00:17:01,049 --> 00:17:04,849 Temperature 91 degrees. 298 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:14,150 Your goal is straight down the river, move in that direction. 299 00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:20,950 Time remaining before the beginning of the pursuit, 2 hours. 300 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:35,150 Hey, David. Can I have another one of your cigarettes? 301 00:17:35,150 --> 00:17:38,549 You've had cigarettes off me all day. 302 00:17:38,549 --> 00:17:42,450 Distance to the United States flag, 303 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:45,150 53 miles. 304 00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:48,950 They made their choice. 305 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:51,150 They could've done a lot of things, 306 00:17:51,150 --> 00:17:53,450 but they chose to throw firebombs 307 00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:56,049 and conspire to violently overthrow the government. 308 00:17:56,049 --> 00:18:03,150 They're doing what they want to do. I'm doing what I want to do. 309 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:07,349 Over this way, fast! 310 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:22,750 'You're on your own. ' 311 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:31,150 I don't think any of those kids'll make it anyway. 312 00:18:31,150 --> 00:18:33,549 D'you see that one little bastard take off? 313 00:18:33,549 --> 00:18:38,549 That Mexican's the fastest thing I ever seen in my life. 314 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:43,450 Time remaining before the beginning of the police pursuit, 315 00:18:43,450 --> 00:18:46,950 1 hour and 53 mins. 316 00:18:48,049 --> 00:18:52,049 Those kids are running scared. Everybody's running scared. 317 00:18:52,049 --> 00:18:59,049 If they didn't break the law, they wouldn't have to run scared. 318 00:19:04,049 --> 00:19:07,250 Maybe they don't know what the law is, Captain. 319 00:19:07,250 --> 00:19:08,549 Everybody knows. 320 00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:11,049 If they don't want to take the consequences, 321 00:19:11,049 --> 00:19:15,549 let them think before they act. 322 00:19:29,650 --> 00:19:34,849 In order to provide what is termed 'further motivation ', 323 00:19:34,849 --> 00:19:39,250 this group have been told that they will find water 324 00:19:39,250 --> 00:19:43,650 half-way to the American flag. 325 00:19:48,849 --> 00:19:50,250 That long-haired sonofabitch? 326 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:53,650 I think he's in for some real bad stuff. 327 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:55,849 You really got a hard-on for that dude. 328 00:19:55,849 --> 00:19:58,150 I don't have a hard-on for him. He's got one for everybody. 329 00:19:58,150 --> 00:20:00,049 He's got one for the world. 330 00:20:00,049 --> 00:20:01,049 So fuck him. 331 00:20:01,049 --> 00:20:03,849 If that's how he wants to play, that's how we'll play. 332 00:20:03,849 --> 00:20:05,750 'A word about violence. 333 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:09,349 'These three days will be only as violent as you want them to be. 334 00:20:09,349 --> 00:20:11,150 'Your capture, should that occur, 335 00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:13,750 'will be as peaceful as you want it to be. 336 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:16,250 'An officer will announce to you that you are apprehended 337 00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:19,150 'and that your participation in the course has concluded. 338 00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:21,250 'Should you resist the arrest, 339 00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:24,650 'or should any of you adopt violence in any form during the course, 340 00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:27,049 'then we shall use those means against you. 341 00:20:27,049 --> 00:20:30,349 'In short, you can start the violent actions if you so choose, 342 00:20:30,349 --> 00:20:34,250 'but I assure you that we will finish them.'. 343 00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:36,450 Let's take a minute and get out of here. 344 00:20:36,450 --> 00:20:38,650 - I'm staying. - I'm staying too. 345 00:20:38,650 --> 00:20:40,950 Oh, you gonna stay here and play, huh? 346 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:43,750 That man gonna shoot the shit out of you! They gonna kill us! 347 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:48,450 We gotta break out sideways, otherwise there's no chance. 348 00:20:48,450 --> 00:20:50,049 I'm gonna hide out. 349 00:20:50,049 --> 00:20:53,349 I don't know about the rest of you, but this bullshit's got to end. 350 00:20:53,349 --> 00:20:58,549 I ain't leaving another motherfucking step! 351 00:20:58,549 --> 00:21:00,450 Wait a second here, 352 00:21:00,450 --> 00:21:04,049 you're going to bring them down on all of us. Forget it. 353 00:21:04,049 --> 00:21:06,750 Shit! You don't think they're down on you now. 354 00:21:06,750 --> 00:21:08,150 At least we've got a chance. 355 00:21:08,150 --> 00:21:11,250 What chance, man? You've got 50 miles of no chance! 356 00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:13,349 You're going to go out there 357 00:21:13,349 --> 00:21:17,049 and play target-practice for them fucking pigs! 358 00:21:17,049 --> 00:21:19,250 In two hours we can get lost out there. 359 00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:22,750 That's the only chance we got. Here, they're gonna be on you in 5 mins. 360 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:25,049 You couldn't make it in the heat if there were no police! 361 00:21:25,049 --> 00:21:28,150 - I say stay. - They got water. 362 00:21:28,150 --> 00:21:29,849 We can't stay! 363 00:21:29,849 --> 00:21:36,049 That's our only chance. They're just over that hill. 364 00:21:38,049 --> 00:21:40,950 You're a marksman? 365 00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:43,049 - Yeah. - A sniper? 366 00:21:43,049 --> 00:21:44,049 A marksman. 367 00:21:44,049 --> 00:21:47,750 What do you mean you can't stay here? 368 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:51,150 The ones that are going have got to go right now. We can't wait. 369 00:21:51,150 --> 00:21:57,849 If you do a thing with the cops, you're gonna get us killed. 370 00:21:57,849 --> 00:22:02,049 Have you ever killed a man? 371 00:22:02,450 --> 00:22:04,750 Yeah. 372 00:22:04,750 --> 00:22:06,049 Jay Kaufman, 373 00:22:06,049 --> 00:22:10,049 co-founder of the National Committee Against War And Repression. 374 00:22:10,049 --> 00:22:12,650 Age 28. 375 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:21,349 Time remaining 1 hour 42 mins. 376 00:22:23,450 --> 00:22:25,549 I prefer it for the simple reason 377 00:22:25,549 --> 00:22:28,250 that this thing, with magnum load, has enough power 378 00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:30,450 to knock down a rhinoceros if it's coming at you. 379 00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:33,049 I'm sure we're going to be apprehending very few rhinoceri, 380 00:22:33,049 --> 00:22:37,849 but, if we do, I want to know that I'm going to be able to stop it. 381 00:22:37,849 --> 00:22:42,349 I see by your file that you were formerly a candidate for. 382 00:22:42,349 --> 00:22:44,150 Vice-President of the United States. 383 00:22:44,150 --> 00:22:45,750 That's correct. 384 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:47,849 Also that you were very successful... 385 00:22:47,849 --> 00:22:50,049 See how much I believed in this system? 386 00:22:50,049 --> 00:22:51,549 Make your answers brief. 387 00:22:51,549 --> 00:22:54,150 OK. Bop. 388 00:22:54,849 --> 00:22:57,049 You say you are against war and depression. 389 00:22:57,049 --> 00:22:58,849 What type of depression? 390 00:22:58,849 --> 00:23:02,349 A depression of the people? A depression of economics? 391 00:23:02,349 --> 00:23:05,849 No, I'm not talking about de-pression, I'm talking about re-pression. 392 00:23:05,849 --> 00:23:09,950 Repression. Being oppressed. 393 00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:12,150 What were you charged with? 394 00:23:12,150 --> 00:23:16,450 Draft evasion and, I don't know... 395 00:23:16,450 --> 00:23:20,150 What did they call it? Er, 'hindering the war effort.' 396 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:22,049 Are you for war or against war? 397 00:23:22,049 --> 00:23:25,950 I'm for war if it's necessary to protect our country. 398 00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:29,450 Do you condone the war in Vietnam, sir? 399 00:23:29,450 --> 00:23:32,650 - Certainly. - You do. Why? 400 00:23:32,650 --> 00:23:36,450 - Because it's protecting our country. - Who tells you this? 401 00:23:36,450 --> 00:23:39,849 Would you like us to let them come over here? Would you fight then? 402 00:23:39,849 --> 00:23:42,650 Who tells you that this war is protecting your country? 403 00:23:42,650 --> 00:23:44,349 We're fighting communism. 404 00:23:44,349 --> 00:23:48,450 - Well, who tells you this? - I hear it every day. 405 00:23:48,450 --> 00:23:51,650 I gather that you're not going to try and make 406 00:23:51,650 --> 00:23:55,049 the next 50 miles to the US flag. 407 00:23:55,049 --> 00:23:57,349 I wouldn't walk around the goddamn fucking corner 408 00:23:57,349 --> 00:23:59,250 for the American flag, 409 00:23:59,250 --> 00:24:02,849 let alone go out in the desert. 410 00:24:02,849 --> 00:24:07,250 Time remaining 1 hour 25 mins. 411 00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:10,849 Squeeze 412 00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:12,250 and fire. 413 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:14,450 We're going through 414 00:24:14,450 --> 00:24:17,450 a kind of a group suicide in America. 415 00:24:17,450 --> 00:24:21,650 In a situation where you want to fire two shots rapid-fire, 416 00:24:21,650 --> 00:24:24,950 pull the hammer back fire the first single action, 417 00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:27,849 and follow it up. 418 00:24:27,849 --> 00:24:34,750 Have you any idea how you're going to complete these 50 miles? 419 00:24:34,750 --> 00:24:39,750 I have no idea. We're just going to keep on. 420 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:42,650 Do you know the difference between a patriot and a chauvinist? 421 00:24:42,650 --> 00:24:44,750 - A who? - A patriot and a chauvinist. 422 00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:45,950 - A chauvinist? - Yes. 423 00:24:45,950 --> 00:24:50,049 Define the word chauvinist to me. 424 00:24:50,049 --> 00:24:51,750 Chauvin was 425 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:53,650 an officer under Napoleon 426 00:24:53,650 --> 00:24:57,250 and his loyalty was so absurd that we got the word Chauvin, 427 00:24:57,250 --> 00:24:59,549 which is chauvinistic, an absurd loyalty. 428 00:24:59,549 --> 00:25:05,950 They promised us water at the other end, water faucets. 429 00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:09,650 They believe in protest 430 00:25:09,650 --> 00:25:11,150 and ritual defiance, 431 00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:14,750 and yet they're willing to participate fully 432 00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:18,349 in the rules established by the police for these games, 433 00:25:18,349 --> 00:25:22,849 fully expecting that they'll come out all right if they make the flag. 434 00:25:22,849 --> 00:25:25,549 Squeeze. Fire. 435 00:25:25,549 --> 00:25:28,150 Are you expecting to die in the next 2 or 3 days? 436 00:25:28,150 --> 00:25:31,049 I expect to die in the next 2 or 3 minutes. 437 00:25:31,049 --> 00:25:34,650 Your function with this weapon is to hit a man-size figure. 438 00:25:34,650 --> 00:25:38,650 You don't have to put out his eye, or get him in the heart or knee-cap, 439 00:25:38,650 --> 00:25:41,049 or pick the heel off his boot like Wyatt Earp. 440 00:25:41,049 --> 00:25:43,349 - How old are you? - I'm 20. 441 00:25:43,349 --> 00:25:45,849 All you have to do is hit a man-size figure 442 00:25:45,849 --> 00:25:47,950 from here to there. 443 00:25:47,950 --> 00:25:50,450 I don't think they're trying to kill us, really. 444 00:25:50,450 --> 00:25:52,650 Get him in that area, he's going down 445 00:25:52,650 --> 00:25:55,549 he's got to go down and he's going down hurting. 446 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:58,349 I think they're just making it difficult. 447 00:25:58,349 --> 00:26:02,250 This isn't Mexico or other countries where they shoot people like you. 448 00:26:02,250 --> 00:26:06,250 What would you do to us if you were in control? 449 00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:09,250 Would you be very humanitarian with people like us? 450 00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:11,950 I would make more of an effort than you are. 451 00:26:11,950 --> 00:26:14,950 What is your moral code? What would you do for this country? 452 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:16,849 You're sitting back, enjoying the adulation 453 00:26:16,849 --> 00:26:18,549 of all these kids. 454 00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:22,650 You are indulging in this self gratification, 455 00:26:22,650 --> 00:26:25,349 you are indulging in some sort of mental masturbation. 456 00:26:25,349 --> 00:26:27,349 That's what you're doing right now. 457 00:26:27,349 --> 00:26:30,349 How could they have any faith in a man 458 00:26:30,349 --> 00:26:34,150 who makes a mockery out of everything that we stand for? 459 00:26:34,150 --> 00:26:36,549 The home, true love... 460 00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:41,150 You haven't the first idea about love with your love-ins, you really haven't. 461 00:26:41,150 --> 00:26:42,950 If it was up to you, 462 00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:46,049 we'd shut down the factories and panhandle on the street. 463 00:26:46,049 --> 00:26:48,450 And what kind of society would we have then? 464 00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:51,549 How would you feed people then? 465 00:26:51,549 --> 00:26:54,250 You want us to support you. That's what you want. 466 00:26:54,250 --> 00:26:57,049 There is enough food and wealth in this country 467 00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:59,250 to take care of everyone, 468 00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:02,150 and everyone isn't being taken care of. 469 00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:05,250 You want to go round the streets and have orgies all the time. 470 00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:09,150 I'm not going around having orgies all the time. 471 00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:13,349 I'm as concerned as you are about the direction of this country. 472 00:27:13,349 --> 00:27:16,250 I really feel sorry for you. We're the same age, 473 00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:19,150 and here you are defending a miserable existence. 474 00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:21,150 Don't you realise how you're being exploited? 475 00:27:21,150 --> 00:27:24,750 How the people who control the money are diminishing your existence 476 00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:26,849 to working in a fucking dirty factory 477 00:27:26,849 --> 00:27:30,150 which puts smoke up in the air, which pollutes the world, 478 00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:32,650 and you're working your ass off saving money for your kids 479 00:27:32,650 --> 00:27:35,150 getting pennies while they're making hundreds of dollars? 480 00:27:35,150 --> 00:27:36,950 Don't you realise you're being duped? 481 00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:39,750 How they've got your head fucked with and indoctrinated? 482 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:42,250 How they have you conditioned? How they misinformed you? 483 00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:44,150 Don't you see this? Are you that blind? 484 00:27:44,150 --> 00:27:47,650 Some new kick or new drug comes along, you'll try it. 485 00:27:47,650 --> 00:27:52,049 What about kicks like genocide, imperialism, napalm warfare? 486 00:27:52,049 --> 00:27:56,150 What about those new kicks which this country puts in practice? 487 00:27:56,150 --> 00:27:59,849 This is a Remington Wingmaster model 870 shotgun, 12-gauge. 488 00:27:59,849 --> 00:28:02,049 What about corruption, police brutality? 489 00:28:02,049 --> 00:28:03,250 You are immoral! 490 00:28:03,250 --> 00:28:06,549 What about the oppression of the minorities? 491 00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:10,549 - You're sick! - I am not immoral, Mrs Jurgens! 492 00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:13,250 Do you want to know what's immoral? 493 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:15,750 Do you want me to tell you what's immoral? 494 00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:18,950 War is immoral. Poverty is immoral. 495 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:22,549 Racism is immoral. Police brutality is immoral. 496 00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:25,349 Oppression is immoral. Genocide is immoral. 497 00:28:25,349 --> 00:28:27,049 Imperialism is immoral. 498 00:28:27,049 --> 00:28:29,950 This country represents all those things. 499 00:28:29,950 --> 00:28:31,950 It's loaded with 00 buckshot. 500 00:28:31,950 --> 00:28:35,150 When are we gonna have love? When are we gonna have brotherhood? 501 00:28:35,150 --> 00:28:37,650 We're not as long as this little fucking Hitler... 502 00:28:37,650 --> 00:28:40,450 Each individual cartridge 503 00:28:40,450 --> 00:28:43,750 has 9 ball-bearings in it. 504 00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:46,849 And you're sending all the oppressed people to their death! 505 00:28:46,849 --> 00:28:48,950 Don't you know that? Are you that fucking stupid? 506 00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:51,650 Another outburst and you'll be taken from the court. 507 00:28:51,650 --> 00:28:54,549 It has no choke on it, the gun has no choke on it whatsoever. 508 00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:58,650 So the buckshot just flies out in any and every direction. 509 00:28:58,650 --> 00:29:02,150 Insane people who murder the children of their country. 510 00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:04,450 And your record, what does that show? 511 00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:07,250 What does the record of this country show? 512 00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:10,049 Destroying the country from within, this is all your record shows. 513 00:29:10,049 --> 00:29:11,849 You're destroying the world from within! 514 00:29:11,849 --> 00:29:16,349 Anything in front of you is totally out of luck when you pull the trigger. 515 00:29:16,349 --> 00:29:19,049 What does LSD have to do with death, with murder, 516 00:29:19,049 --> 00:29:21,849 with war, with injustice, with poverty, with racism? 517 00:29:21,849 --> 00:29:25,049 Take the prisoner out of here! Get him out of here! 518 00:29:25,049 --> 00:29:28,650 Get him out of here! 519 00:29:29,849 --> 00:29:37,549 You have to pump to inject the shell into the chamber and pump to eject it. 520 00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:42,349 I was... I was at a poetry reading. 521 00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:46,549 Temperature 93 degrees. 522 00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:49,549 The police came in... 523 00:29:49,549 --> 00:29:51,950 ...and they swept us off the stage. 524 00:29:51,950 --> 00:29:55,150 People are just being killed for nothing, 525 00:29:55,150 --> 00:29:57,950 hauled off to jail, hauled off to prison. 526 00:29:57,950 --> 00:30:00,150 Feelings? There is no feeling. 527 00:30:00,150 --> 00:30:02,950 Every day you walk outside, some guy takes a shot at you. 528 00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:04,750 Some pig in a goddamn uniform. 529 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:07,150 Watch the pattern of the buckshot. 530 00:30:07,150 --> 00:30:11,650 And they say this is democracy. 531 00:30:12,250 --> 00:30:15,950 Can you see the dispersement? It looks like 6 or 7 feet. 532 00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:18,750 We've got to wait for the first one to come. 533 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:21,049 What if more than one comes? 534 00:30:21,049 --> 00:30:23,549 An individual carrying a thing like this with a safety arm, 535 00:30:23,549 --> 00:30:26,549 might see someone that would be an antagonist. 536 00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:30,450 - Who's going to be a decoy? - I'll do it. 537 00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:33,250 You've got to hit a man in the right spot and he's wearing a helmet. 538 00:30:33,250 --> 00:30:36,650 Slip the safety off and go like this. 539 00:30:36,650 --> 00:30:39,849 How would you try and remedy what's happening in America? 540 00:30:39,849 --> 00:30:43,650 I don't think it can be done. We've just got to evolve out of it. 541 00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:48,450 And I think it'll happen violently. 542 00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:52,750 Anything between those two shots is blown away. 543 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:54,650 It is no longer causing you any trouble. 544 00:30:54,650 --> 00:30:56,349 It does not exist any more. 545 00:30:56,349 --> 00:30:58,450 It has one purpose alone 546 00:30:58,450 --> 00:31:00,549 when loaded with buckshot, that is to kill. 547 00:31:00,549 --> 00:31:03,650 Not to disperse. Not to harry. Not to wound. To kill. 548 00:31:03,650 --> 00:31:09,150 Use it for that fact when you have to do so. 549 00:31:11,150 --> 00:31:14,950 Time remaining 50 mins. 550 00:31:19,150 --> 00:31:25,750 What are your feelings towards the police in this country? 551 00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:32,849 I really don't think they're too different from anybody else. 552 00:31:32,849 --> 00:31:35,250 Pigs are pigs. I mean... 553 00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,250 Pigs have always been pigs. 554 00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:41,549 The street-cleaners of the public conscience. 555 00:31:41,549 --> 00:31:45,049 They're just like hired killers. 556 00:31:45,049 --> 00:31:47,750 These people have been sent out here unarmed. 557 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:53,650 Unarmed? I don't think Jack did anything to them. 558 00:31:56,150 --> 00:32:00,049 This is going to be the first revolution in history 559 00:32:00,049 --> 00:32:02,950 when the pigs were in the upper class. 560 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:06,450 I think they're in the same boat 561 00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:11,650 as the people we left back at the house. 562 00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:17,150 They have a point of view 563 00:32:17,150 --> 00:32:21,250 and they're willing to use any sort of means 564 00:32:21,250 --> 00:32:23,950 to back it up. 565 00:32:23,950 --> 00:32:27,150 They're doing a job. They're just taking orders. 566 00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:33,549 They're working. They're getting paid for what they do. 567 00:32:38,349 --> 00:32:40,450 Can you tell us... 568 00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:43,049 Can you tell us what happened here? 569 00:32:43,049 --> 00:32:46,750 What happened is obvious. What I don't know is why. 570 00:32:46,750 --> 00:32:51,750 That young man over there with that white cloth on his head is dead. 571 00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:56,150 They get paid more than social workers or college professors. 572 00:32:56,150 --> 00:33:01,150 They have a real stake in maintaining the status quo. 573 00:33:01,150 --> 00:33:03,450 He was attacked. 574 00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:06,750 Signs point to at least three people, maybe four. 575 00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:11,650 He was stabbed to death with the spires of a Joshua tree. 576 00:33:11,650 --> 00:33:16,950 Do you think this man's death will cause any 577 00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:20,349 further antagonism on the part of your officers towards these people? 578 00:33:20,349 --> 00:33:22,250 No doubt about it whatsoever. 579 00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:23,950 Each man is thinking that 580 00:33:23,950 --> 00:33:26,250 that could have been him under the same circumstances. 581 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:28,549 And it undoubtedly would have been. 582 00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:31,049 There's no doubt that it'll cause more antagonism, 583 00:33:31,049 --> 00:33:33,750 and I think antagonism is a very mild word 584 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:40,750 on the part of the men in my command towards these individuals. 585 00:33:44,450 --> 00:33:47,250 We have a specific plan of action that we execute 586 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:50,349 in case of circumstances such as these. 587 00:33:50,349 --> 00:33:54,449 And as soon as the National Guard, who found the body, informed me 588 00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:57,150 that this had taken place, 589 00:33:57,150 --> 00:34:01,750 those measures went into effect. 590 00:34:14,150 --> 00:34:21,349 'Better check on suspects who may be in possession of firearms.'. 591 00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:34,349 Do you feel the country is on the brink of fratricide? 592 00:34:34,349 --> 00:34:35,650 Yes. 593 00:34:35,650 --> 00:34:39,849 It's already there, it's been happening for some time. 594 00:34:39,849 --> 00:34:42,250 Did they take any weapons from the deputy? 595 00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:44,550 They have his patrol car. 596 00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:47,150 They have a. 357 Magnum. 597 00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:50,650 They have a Remington 12-gauge Wingmaster shotgun, 598 00:34:50,650 --> 00:34:54,150 at least 50 rounds of ammunition. 599 00:34:54,150 --> 00:34:55,949 They have his billy-club. 600 00:34:55,949 --> 00:34:58,650 They also took his shoes. 601 00:34:58,650 --> 00:35:00,750 They are armed and dangerous. 602 00:35:00,750 --> 00:35:04,250 They have a shotgun - that's the most dangerous weapon that I can imagine. 603 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:05,849 We will use force against them. 604 00:35:05,849 --> 00:35:08,150 We will not take any chances with these individuals. 605 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:11,050 They've killed once. I don't like to lose men. 606 00:35:11,050 --> 00:35:14,550 Did any of you know the deputy that was killed? 607 00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:16,449 I didn't know him that well. 608 00:35:16,449 --> 00:35:20,750 It's not about a personal vendetta. 609 00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:23,250 Quite the opposite. We are not doing this for ourselves. 610 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:29,250 We're doing this for the people who pay the taxes. 611 00:35:31,949 --> 00:35:36,949 The thing that appalls me is that it seems to be almost understood. 612 00:35:36,949 --> 00:35:40,949 It doesn't have to happen this way if we can just... 613 00:35:40,949 --> 00:35:46,650 If we can somehow create a change of spirit, a change of mind. 614 00:35:46,650 --> 00:35:49,650 It doesn't have to happen... but it is. 615 00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:54,150 - Have you ever killed a man? - Yes, I have. 616 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:56,349 What did you feel about that at the time? 617 00:35:56,349 --> 00:35:59,750 No feeling at all. 618 00:36:00,349 --> 00:36:03,150 'Warning, the two suspects are armed and dangerous. 619 00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:06,650 'Intercept with extreme caution.'. 620 00:36:06,650 --> 00:36:09,750 Do you think you'll have to resort to violence? 621 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:15,150 No. I hadn't thought about violence at all. 622 00:36:16,449 --> 00:36:19,949 I don't think there'll be any need for violence. 623 00:36:19,949 --> 00:36:24,650 That's what we're working against. 624 00:36:25,449 --> 00:36:29,550 But it just seems like there's no other way 625 00:36:29,550 --> 00:36:32,250 to defend ourselves. 626 00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:35,550 Violence might be necessary, yes. 627 00:36:35,550 --> 00:36:37,650 I can't see the good in fighting back. 628 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:41,949 If they kill me, what difference would my politics make? 629 00:36:41,949 --> 00:36:45,250 I would be dead. 630 00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:52,150 You quit your job and you don't like to work for others. 631 00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:55,650 I can understand that. I have the same feelings sometimes. 632 00:36:55,650 --> 00:37:00,650 William Luke Vallerio. Unemployed, age 30. 633 00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:05,150 I take a hunting trip sometimes or just go off fishing, 634 00:37:05,150 --> 00:37:07,050 leave the old lady at home. 635 00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:10,050 But you're on vacation all the time. 636 00:37:10,050 --> 00:37:13,150 Is that your view of life? Just to be on vacation all the time? 637 00:37:13,150 --> 00:37:16,750 I do what I want to do. 638 00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:22,849 Do you understand why you are before this tribunal? 639 00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:28,250 I don't want to go in the army. 640 00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:32,550 If our country were attacked within the hour, 641 00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:34,750 would you join the US services? 642 00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:37,250 I would not. 643 00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:40,949 If I told you that I was going to wad up this piece of paper 644 00:37:40,949 --> 00:37:43,250 and hit you with it, what would you do? 645 00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:46,250 I would duck. 646 00:37:49,050 --> 00:37:51,949 '2:0Opm. KBCR News. 647 00:37:51,949 --> 00:37:55,050 'B-52 bombers today launched a massive air strike 648 00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:58,250 'against the North Vietnamese armament centre of Pem Dong, 649 00:37:58,250 --> 00:38:01,150 'only 15 miles from the border with China.' 650 00:38:01,150 --> 00:38:03,550 it's the whole violent thing in America. 651 00:38:03,550 --> 00:38:05,750 I don't know when it's going to stop. 652 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:08,849 I don't know what 653 00:38:08,849 --> 00:38:10,849 would bring it all to an end. 654 00:38:10,849 --> 00:38:15,349 You believe it's obviously getting worse? 655 00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:17,550 - Very much so. - All the time. 656 00:38:17,550 --> 00:38:22,150 With the war and the minorities, the poor, 657 00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:24,650 it is constantly getting worse 658 00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:26,750 and it seems that more and more people 659 00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:29,650 are willing to turn to violence 660 00:38:29,650 --> 00:38:31,150 to take care of it, 661 00:38:31,150 --> 00:38:37,550 and it seems to be escalating into an unthinkable situation. 662 00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:39,050 I don't think they're sincere. 663 00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:45,349 If they're sincere, why don't they riot in wintertime? 664 00:38:45,449 --> 00:38:48,050 2:23pm. 665 00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:52,650 Temperature 101 degrees. 666 00:39:03,449 --> 00:39:05,750 Have you ever gone hunting or have your dad 667 00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:07,849 or your friends taken you out hunting? 668 00:39:07,849 --> 00:39:09,050 I've never gone hunting. 669 00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:11,750 - You've never shot a gun? - I've never shot a gun in my life. 670 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:14,050 - You don't know how to handle one? - I don't. 671 00:39:14,050 --> 00:39:17,449 I don't like guns. 672 00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:22,050 What were you charged with? 673 00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:25,150 Refusing induction. 674 00:39:25,150 --> 00:39:27,550 Agent Donovan, would you read that charge? 675 00:39:27,550 --> 00:39:33,750 Conspiracy to aid and abet others to avoid the draft. 676 00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:39,449 How did you refuse? 677 00:39:39,449 --> 00:39:45,650 I just ignored the letter. I just didn't do anything. 678 00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:48,750 You don't like to travel and, according to the charges, 679 00:39:48,750 --> 00:39:52,250 you tried to flee the country because of draft evasion. 680 00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:54,050 How do you reconcile that? 681 00:39:54,050 --> 00:39:56,050 I don't like to travel but it was necessary. 682 00:39:56,050 --> 00:40:00,650 I wanted to get to some place where I could stay, be in one place 683 00:40:00,650 --> 00:40:03,150 be left alone to do what I want to do, 684 00:40:03,150 --> 00:40:05,949 instead of all the hassles that I was having. 685 00:40:05,949 --> 00:40:10,050 - Did they just come and take you? - They broke in. 686 00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:14,050 Mr Vallerio, you testified that you live alone. Do you listen to the radio? 687 00:40:14,050 --> 00:40:15,550 Do you have a TV set? 688 00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:19,050 I didn't testify that I live alone. I don't have a TV.I have a radio. 689 00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:20,750 Do you know what's going on, 690 00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:23,949 that the Chinese are crossing the North Vietnam border 691 00:40:23,949 --> 00:40:26,250 and that we're now bombing within 5 miles of the border? 692 00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:31,750 Do you realise the intensity in which this situation places the USA? 693 00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:36,250 It's getting hard to live here. 694 00:40:36,250 --> 00:40:41,449 When they arrested me, they roughed me up somewhat. 695 00:40:41,449 --> 00:40:45,449 That's when my wife was arrested. 696 00:40:45,449 --> 00:40:48,849 I was just trying to help him. 697 00:40:48,849 --> 00:40:54,050 They charged me with assault on a police officer. 698 00:40:54,050 --> 00:40:56,949 The only legitimate thing that I can think of doing 699 00:40:56,949 --> 00:41:01,050 is to use my body or well-being, 700 00:41:01,050 --> 00:41:04,550 my freedom or life, 701 00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:10,150 to back up what I say. 702 00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:15,550 At another time, the honourable or right thing to do 703 00:41:15,550 --> 00:41:20,050 might be to be a policeman or to be President. 704 00:41:20,050 --> 00:41:27,349 Right now, I think the honourable thing to do is to be a criminal. 705 00:41:28,349 --> 00:41:30,949 'All units, this is truck 509. 706 00:41:30,949 --> 00:41:36,250 'We have a couple of suspects in sight of truck 517.'. 707 00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:42,349 Would you describe your work as committed, socially? 708 00:41:42,349 --> 00:41:46,949 Yes, it's committed. But it's... 709 00:41:47,650 --> 00:41:52,449 ...not committed to the revolution. 710 00:41:55,449 --> 00:41:58,449 It's committed to... 711 00:41:58,449 --> 00:42:01,250 ...sanity. 712 00:42:05,550 --> 00:42:11,650 The normal human body temperature is 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit. 713 00:42:11,650 --> 00:42:13,650 An increase in body temperature 714 00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:19,250 of 6 to 8 degrees above normal for any extended period 715 00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:22,250 means death. 716 00:42:23,849 --> 00:42:26,150 I don't know what any of us could do. 717 00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:28,250 Maybe if we all got together 718 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:30,550 for one day or for one week 719 00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:34,449 and stopped, just stopped doing everything and said, 720 00:42:34,449 --> 00:42:38,550 'This has to stop. The fucking war has to stop.' 721 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:44,349 We have to do something about all the hate here. 722 00:42:44,650 --> 00:42:51,050 You were 2 weeks in jail before being brought out here. 723 00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:55,849 How did the police treat you? 724 00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:57,449 Like we were trash. 725 00:42:57,449 --> 00:43:01,750 They were really, really bad. 726 00:43:06,849 --> 00:43:10,650 There they are, there! 727 00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:36,050 The pigs are coming! 728 00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:38,150 'You are apprehended! 729 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:43,150 'Your part in the course is concluded.'. 730 00:43:43,150 --> 00:43:45,349 Get them, come on! Get them! 731 00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:47,250 We were just told by the Senator 732 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:49,449 about the menace that faces us, 733 00:43:49,449 --> 00:43:51,949 and here you sit as if this was a picnic. 734 00:43:51,949 --> 00:43:56,650 You've got shackles and handcuffs on and this is a picnic! 735 00:43:56,650 --> 00:44:00,250 Stop or we'll shoot to kill! 736 00:44:00,250 --> 00:44:02,849 You sit there so quietly so calmly. 737 00:44:02,849 --> 00:44:05,250 This is sickening! You're a traitor. 738 00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:07,750 Get in. 739 00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:14,849 Perhaps you haven't had the guard put the cuffs on tight enough. 740 00:44:15,050 --> 00:44:17,050 I know it sounds a pain for you. 741 00:44:17,050 --> 00:44:21,050 Out of order. Irrelevant. 742 00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:25,750 Dogs. 743 00:44:28,949 --> 00:44:32,150 I'm beginning to think that maybe 744 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:36,550 the others had the right idea. 745 00:44:42,949 --> 00:44:45,650 There's no reason to react against that. 746 00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:51,150 It'll just bring it down worse on all of us. 747 00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:55,449 He loves this country but, 'I want to go to Canada.' 748 00:44:55,449 --> 00:45:01,449 Why does he want to go to Canada? Evade the draft. 749 00:45:05,250 --> 00:45:08,550 Stop, I mean it! 750 00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:12,050 Do you think they did this 751 00:45:12,050 --> 00:45:14,550 because they were Chicano? 752 00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:16,449 It has nothing to do with Chicanos. 753 00:45:16,449 --> 00:45:19,949 They're going to do the same thing to all of us. 754 00:45:19,949 --> 00:45:22,949 Get in the car! 755 00:45:22,949 --> 00:45:28,349 We have to get out of here, this is the first place they're gonna look for us. 756 00:45:28,349 --> 00:45:29,949 Sit down. 757 00:45:29,949 --> 00:45:36,550 They could be right behind any one of these little dunes. 758 00:45:40,349 --> 00:45:43,050 'We've picked up two of them. 759 00:45:43,050 --> 00:45:46,550 'Time check, 17.08. 760 00:45:46,750 --> 00:45:51,750 'One male one female, both Mexican.'. 761 00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:55,949 Temperature 107 degrees. 762 00:45:56,949 --> 00:45:59,449 Will you stop following us, eh? 763 00:45:59,449 --> 00:46:03,150 He's going to make a choice between Punishment Park or prison 764 00:46:03,150 --> 00:46:08,050 and he'll have to make that choice himself. 765 00:46:08,050 --> 00:46:09,849 The desert heat is a killer. 766 00:46:09,849 --> 00:46:12,449 It will burn your skin, sap your strength, 767 00:46:12,449 --> 00:46:15,349 cut your efficiency, drain the moisture from your body 768 00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:18,050 and thicken your blood unless you drink water. 769 00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:21,150 There will be a temperature difference of 45 degrees 770 00:46:21,150 --> 00:46:26,250 between daytime heat and pre-dawn cool. 771 00:46:30,650 --> 00:46:34,449 Dawn on the second day. 772 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:39,150 Temperature 62 degrees. 773 00:46:52,650 --> 00:46:54,849 Nancy Jane Smith. 774 00:46:54,849 --> 00:46:57,550 Popular singer and composer. 775 00:46:57,550 --> 00:46:59,750 Age 19. 776 00:46:59,750 --> 00:47:04,050 I understand the defendant does not wish to have you as her counsel. 777 00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:10,050 That's correct, Mr Chairman. She wishes to defend herself. 778 00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:13,349 How do you feel? 779 00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:19,750 My hands... my fingers are numb. 780 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:24,849 I'm afraid of my feet. They... 781 00:47:24,849 --> 00:47:27,550 I'm so cold I threw up. 782 00:47:27,550 --> 00:47:29,949 Did you hear the patrol cars during the night? 783 00:47:29,949 --> 00:47:31,349 We heard them... 784 00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:34,949 We heard them in the distance, but they didn't come near us. 785 00:47:34,949 --> 00:47:37,750 I'd like to... I want to find out a little bit more about you. 786 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:39,849 You were arrested for assaulting a police officer. 787 00:47:39,849 --> 00:47:41,349 What did you do to him? 788 00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:43,849 I was trying to keep him from arresting me. 789 00:47:43,849 --> 00:47:47,650 The songs that she composes are of a seditious nature. 790 00:47:47,650 --> 00:47:52,750 She advocates the overthrow of the government in many of her songs. 791 00:47:52,750 --> 00:47:55,849 One of them I'll read right now. 792 00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:57,849 Evidence Nancy Smith. 793 00:47:57,849 --> 00:48:00,849 Seditious literature. 794 00:48:00,849 --> 00:48:03,050 Santa Claus is coming With a bag of bombs and guns 795 00:48:03,050 --> 00:48:05,050 Santa Claus is here The revolution has come. 796 00:48:05,050 --> 00:48:08,650 Grab a handful, dip in quick Grant a slogan, make it stick. 797 00:48:08,650 --> 00:48:11,949 Right on, Baby Get yours and fight like crazy. 798 00:48:11,949 --> 00:48:13,949 We can win, blow up buildings Watch them fall. 799 00:48:13,949 --> 00:48:16,550 For hours that we spend Standing in the hall. 800 00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:23,250 I bet your mother and father are proud of you, aren't they? 801 00:48:23,449 --> 00:48:25,750 Yes. 802 00:48:26,650 --> 00:48:30,349 I'd like to hear you sing one. 803 00:48:30,349 --> 00:48:33,449 Celibate ass-lickers Riding cars made of gold. 804 00:48:33,449 --> 00:48:36,150 Taken from the poor They've gathered to their fold. 805 00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:39,349 Father Pig leads a flock of sheep Father Pig makes ready. 806 00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:40,849 For the slaughter. 807 00:48:40,849 --> 00:48:43,650 Celibate snatch-men Their rhythm is the way. 808 00:48:43,650 --> 00:48:45,550 Poor ladies get the babies. 809 00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:47,849 But Father Dick has the say. 810 00:48:47,849 --> 00:48:50,949 Do you know what snatch is? 811 00:48:50,949 --> 00:48:55,550 I don't have to be insulted by this little guttersnipe. 812 00:48:55,550 --> 00:48:58,650 In the psychiatric evaluation of the prisoner, these songs 813 00:48:58,650 --> 00:49:01,150 do show a neurotic and schizophrenic tendency. 814 00:49:01,150 --> 00:49:03,650 Is that your opinion, dummy? 815 00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:05,550 Here's what I'm interested in... 816 00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:07,550 You came from a wealthy family. 817 00:49:07,550 --> 00:49:10,550 You had the best of things that this country has to offer. 818 00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:12,750 Why do you turn against the country? 819 00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:14,750 My parents taught me to think 820 00:49:14,750 --> 00:49:19,449 and my parents gave me certain values of honesty and... 821 00:49:19,449 --> 00:49:21,150 - To think? - That's why I'm here. 822 00:49:21,150 --> 00:49:23,449 - Tell people to throw bombs too? - No. 823 00:49:23,449 --> 00:49:26,949 They taught me to think and they gave me a set of moral values. 824 00:49:26,949 --> 00:49:29,150 It don't have anything to do with sex, lady. 825 00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:32,250 - What happened to the moral values? - I still have all of them. 826 00:49:32,250 --> 00:49:34,050 What about the songs you write? 827 00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:35,750 Do you call those moral? 828 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:38,150 Yeah. I call them a lot more moral that what you're doing 829 00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:40,050 sitting right there. Fuck off! 830 00:49:40,050 --> 00:49:41,650 Watch your language. 831 00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:44,050 Why should I watch my language? 832 00:49:44,050 --> 00:49:45,349 Fuck off! 833 00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:47,750 Watch your language, defendant. 834 00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:50,449 Oh, shut up! What do you think I care what you tell me to do? 835 00:49:50,449 --> 00:49:52,550 You're going to kill me in a little while. 836 00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:54,050 Old man! 837 00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:56,949 Stop that language! That's part of all the other moral crap. 838 00:49:56,949 --> 00:49:59,750 Moral crap? You said crap! 839 00:49:59,750 --> 00:50:01,849 Yes. You make me say crap! 840 00:50:01,849 --> 00:50:04,349 - You make me very angry! - Shoot that woman! 841 00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:06,050 She said crap! 842 00:50:06,050 --> 00:50:08,449 Sit down, defendant. 843 00:50:08,449 --> 00:50:10,250 What you're doing to the children... 844 00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:11,650 What I'm doing? 845 00:50:11,650 --> 00:50:14,650 Yes, what you're doing! You make me sick! 846 00:50:14,650 --> 00:50:17,150 You're a crazy girl! You ought to be locked up! 847 00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:19,750 Why should I be locked up? Why don't you shoot me? 848 00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:23,150 Because you're schizophrenic! You're cuckoo! 849 00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:26,449 Miss Smith, I remind you that your violent 850 00:50:26,449 --> 00:50:29,250 overthrow-of-the-government, financially-rewarding songs, 851 00:50:29,250 --> 00:50:31,250 really gives you a peculiar kind of freedom 852 00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:33,550 to have your love-ins, to have your pot. 853 00:50:33,550 --> 00:50:35,849 What is your philosophy of government? 854 00:50:35,849 --> 00:50:37,849 What do you believe in? 855 00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:40,150 I would take every man that is in this country 856 00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:42,150 that's in a uniform in another country 857 00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:45,849 and bring him back home and put him back in the world. 858 00:50:45,849 --> 00:50:49,150 I would take every prisoner out of their cages. 859 00:50:49,150 --> 00:50:51,150 I'd take every hungry person and feed them, 860 00:50:51,150 --> 00:50:53,449 and take away every rich person's money. 861 00:50:53,449 --> 00:50:56,949 I would take every person that's tired of working jobs 862 00:50:56,949 --> 00:50:58,849 like on the auto lines and things like that 863 00:50:58,849 --> 00:51:02,150 who have worked for years for nothing and never getting ahead... 864 00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:04,650 Or people in college, because I had to quit school because 865 00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:08,150 I got so fucking paranoid, because after Kent State 866 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:10,449 I realised that I had to put on 867 00:51:10,449 --> 00:51:13,150 a cheerleader's sweater with an I love America pin 868 00:51:13,150 --> 00:51:15,449 and the people who were shooting weren't even aiming. 869 00:51:15,449 --> 00:51:17,449 I'd walk out of a classroom 870 00:51:17,449 --> 00:51:19,949 and be on my way to lunch and get killed just as easily 871 00:51:19,949 --> 00:51:23,349 as in the front line of a barricade in a demonstration. 872 00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:25,150 - Do you have any children? - Yes, I have. 873 00:51:25,150 --> 00:51:26,349 How many children? 874 00:51:26,349 --> 00:51:28,349 You've tried to get into the mind 875 00:51:28,349 --> 00:51:29,849 of some of my children. 876 00:51:29,849 --> 00:51:33,650 They were brainwashed by watching Donna Reed and Father Knows Best. 877 00:51:33,650 --> 00:51:36,550 By the time they listened to me, they were past their formative years. 878 00:51:36,550 --> 00:51:38,949 - How many? - I have 3 children. 879 00:51:38,949 --> 00:51:41,349 How would you feel if one of them died? 880 00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:44,750 I'd feel terrible. 881 00:51:49,150 --> 00:51:52,650 The course has now been in progress 882 00:51:52,650 --> 00:51:56,550 for 24 and a half hours. 883 00:51:58,449 --> 00:52:00,750 Let us get back to the charges. 884 00:52:00,750 --> 00:52:02,349 I'll read them again. 885 00:52:02,349 --> 00:52:05,050 I have a charge to make against you. 886 00:52:05,050 --> 00:52:08,250 I have a charge to make against you, old man! 887 00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:10,949 You old, sick man. 888 00:52:10,949 --> 00:52:14,150 How many kids have you led to the slaughter? 889 00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:15,849 How many kids are out there now? 890 00:52:15,849 --> 00:52:18,150 Who's getting killed by the guns that I hear go off? 891 00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:22,150 How many children have been through these tribunals? 892 00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:23,449 - Silence! - No! 893 00:52:23,449 --> 00:52:25,849 How many children have you killed? 894 00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:27,449 Who's dying right now? 895 00:52:27,449 --> 00:52:29,550 You sent those kids out there. 896 00:52:29,550 --> 00:52:31,449 I sent those kids out there? 897 00:52:31,449 --> 00:52:36,250 Who's dying? Who's dead that was sitting right here? 898 00:52:36,250 --> 00:52:41,050 You sat here and with all the arrogance in the world... 899 00:52:41,050 --> 00:52:43,150 I don't have to listen to that. 900 00:52:43,150 --> 00:52:45,750 You don't even hear me. 901 00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:47,150 Cut it out! 902 00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:50,349 You have no real way of running anything, you're a phoney! 903 00:52:50,349 --> 00:52:52,550 Don't you dare talk to me like that! 904 00:52:52,550 --> 00:52:54,449 There's no question about this girl 905 00:52:54,449 --> 00:52:58,849 being a definite communist threat to this nation. 906 00:52:58,849 --> 00:53:01,449 Each member of this group 907 00:53:01,449 --> 00:53:06,550 is now lacking about two quarts of body water. 908 00:53:06,550 --> 00:53:10,349 I believe in destroying everything that you stand for 909 00:53:10,349 --> 00:53:16,150 and destroy everything that you're trying to do. 910 00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:17,449 I'm complaining? 911 00:53:17,449 --> 00:53:19,150 I have the right to complain! 912 00:53:19,150 --> 00:53:21,550 Defendant, sit down. Restrain the defendant. 913 00:53:21,550 --> 00:53:25,449 You're going to put a bullet... 914 00:53:25,449 --> 00:53:31,150 Basically, we found ourselves in a situation where 915 00:53:31,150 --> 00:53:35,550 we thought we had the entire group of militants pinned down 916 00:53:35,550 --> 00:53:37,750 and called upon them to surrender. 917 00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:41,349 They did not do so and you see the consequences of their decision. 918 00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:45,150 Silence the defendant! 919 00:53:49,449 --> 00:53:51,750 Senator, this is when it is getting out of proportion... 920 00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:54,349 You may have kids and their lives are relevant... 921 00:53:54,349 --> 00:53:59,349 I've got a couple of young kids. How are you going to raise them? 922 00:53:59,349 --> 00:54:03,150 We have at least one more running around. 923 00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:07,349 What do you plan to do now? 924 00:54:07,650 --> 00:54:09,550 We have this gun. 925 00:54:09,550 --> 00:54:14,050 We'll try to find a place in the high ground 926 00:54:14,050 --> 00:54:17,849 and wait for them and, if they don't come, we'll get out. 927 00:54:17,849 --> 00:54:19,050 We know we'll get them. 928 00:54:19,050 --> 00:54:22,650 This whole fucking game is like a revolution and we're in it. 929 00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:24,150 If we don't get them, the desert will. 930 00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:27,250 We've got to either win or die. 931 00:54:27,250 --> 00:54:30,250 - Where was he hit? - In the neck. 932 00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:32,750 I don't much care just so they're hit. 933 00:54:32,750 --> 00:54:36,050 And if we do win, we're going to wreck this fucking establishment 934 00:54:36,050 --> 00:54:38,449 and this fucking game. 935 00:54:38,449 --> 00:54:41,750 They don't understand what's going on in this country. 936 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:45,449 They have no idea, no loyalty, no understanding, 937 00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:49,050 and they respond with violence. 938 00:54:49,050 --> 00:54:52,449 And the words in her songs 'Throw bombs!' 939 00:54:52,449 --> 00:54:54,650 'Blow up!' 'Kill!' 'Kill!' 940 00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:56,650 And who do they kill? Innocent people. 941 00:54:56,650 --> 00:55:02,449 And she drives the kids here and says we did it. 942 00:55:03,650 --> 00:55:07,449 Temperature 98 degrees. 943 00:55:10,050 --> 00:55:13,650 One of the main reasons for having Punishment Park in the first place 944 00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:16,949 is because, with the type of crime 945 00:55:16,949 --> 00:55:19,550 that we have being committed today, 946 00:55:19,550 --> 00:55:22,349 the civil and social crime, 947 00:55:22,349 --> 00:55:25,550 we're filling up our prisons 948 00:55:25,550 --> 00:55:30,750 faster than we can build new facilities. 949 00:55:38,849 --> 00:55:41,150 Ask the Senator how it is. 950 00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:45,250 May we ask you what you feel about 951 00:55:45,250 --> 00:55:49,550 your duty on the board today? 952 00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:53,949 What do you feel about disciplining young people? 953 00:55:53,949 --> 00:55:55,949 A number of these young people 954 00:55:55,949 --> 00:55:59,349 remind me of a situation I had at home. 955 00:55:59,349 --> 00:56:00,750 It was one of my own daughters. 956 00:56:00,750 --> 00:56:04,550 For about a year we had quite a difficult time with her. 957 00:56:04,550 --> 00:56:08,550 She didn't believe that there would be any discipline at home 958 00:56:08,550 --> 00:56:11,650 and we sort of worked that thing out. 959 00:56:11,650 --> 00:56:13,849 May I ask you how you worked it out? 960 00:56:13,849 --> 00:56:16,750 I kept punishing her and she kept responding 961 00:56:16,750 --> 00:56:19,349 until finally we worked it out quite well. 962 00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:23,650 You've got to remember that these children of ours today are like 963 00:56:23,650 --> 00:56:27,449 skilled and trained, highly-bred horses. 964 00:56:27,449 --> 00:56:29,650 They're trained to go around that track, 965 00:56:29,650 --> 00:56:31,849 but then you've got to sort of hold them in, 966 00:56:31,849 --> 00:56:34,449 because, if you let the reins out, 967 00:56:34,449 --> 00:56:37,349 they'll just run around that track without any control at all. 968 00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:40,650 We do get a few oddballs before this tribunal. 969 00:56:40,650 --> 00:56:44,349 Especially that one that wouldn't kill a fly. 970 00:56:44,349 --> 00:56:46,849 He said he'd take one of these cups and catch the fly 971 00:56:46,849 --> 00:56:51,650 and take it outside and let it free. 972 00:56:51,650 --> 00:56:56,349 He's probably a 1-A now, or in Indochina. I wouldn't know. 973 00:56:56,349 --> 00:56:59,650 I'd rather be in a lot more places than in the desert. 974 00:56:59,650 --> 00:57:02,650 I have a wife and family back home. 975 00:57:02,650 --> 00:57:05,550 There are certain things you have to do for your country, 976 00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:08,449 but for all the abuse and just seeing these characters 977 00:57:08,449 --> 00:57:11,949 have no respect for this country it's difficult. 978 00:57:11,949 --> 00:57:13,349 We give them a chance 979 00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:17,250 to have a fair say but they don't seem to appreciate it. 980 00:57:17,250 --> 00:57:20,650 It's a very difficult job to do, it really is. 981 00:57:20,650 --> 00:57:23,849 But somebody has to do it. 982 00:57:23,849 --> 00:57:25,750 We do our best. 983 00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:29,750 What would you do if one of your own children appeared before you? 984 00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:30,849 Oh, my god. 985 00:57:30,849 --> 00:57:33,949 No, my kids wouldn't do that. They really wouldn't. 986 00:57:33,949 --> 00:57:36,050 They've been trained differently. 987 00:57:36,050 --> 00:57:41,250 I see a running pattern of paranoia in these youngsters. 988 00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:43,250 This may sound funny, but it isn't funny. 989 00:57:43,250 --> 00:57:46,949 I think there should've been more spank and less Spock in America, 990 00:57:46,949 --> 00:57:52,150 and our youth wouldn't be what they are today. 991 00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:56,250 These are political criminals. They are not social criminals. 992 00:57:56,250 --> 00:58:00,250 They have to be shown that their way is wrong. 993 00:58:00,250 --> 00:58:04,550 We cannot show them by killing them, by building gas chambers, 994 00:58:04,550 --> 00:58:10,550 or by setting up machine-gun bunkers and covering them with bulldozers. 995 00:58:10,550 --> 00:58:15,650 This is not the way we like to operate. 996 00:58:18,750 --> 00:58:23,050 - What's wrong? - Fuck! Fuck! 997 00:58:29,449 --> 00:58:31,650 - Let's get going. - Let's get the fuck out of here. 998 00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:33,550 But going where? 999 00:58:33,550 --> 00:58:36,050 Let's try to make it to the flag. 1000 00:58:36,050 --> 00:58:38,949 How we gonna make it somewhere? We have no water! 1001 00:58:38,949 --> 00:58:42,349 There's no water that way. 1002 00:58:42,349 --> 00:58:45,250 What would your forefathers have done, Mr Kohler, 1003 00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:47,250 if, during the revolution 1004 00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:50,650 they were all conscientious objectors? 1005 00:58:50,650 --> 00:58:53,750 If the majority of my forefathers were conscientious objectors 1006 00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:56,550 it would include the people from England too 1007 00:58:56,550 --> 00:58:59,050 and in that case they would have been acting justly 1008 00:58:59,050 --> 00:59:00,849 towards the people in the colonies... 1009 00:59:00,849 --> 00:59:03,050 James Arthur Kohler. 1010 00:59:03,050 --> 00:59:06,150 Pacifist. Age 20. 1011 00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:09,750 ...And they wouldn't have been over here killing the Indians. 1012 00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:12,449 Tell me, are you aware of the crisis in this country? 1013 00:59:12,449 --> 00:59:15,150 How deeply do you feel about the present crisis of the nation 1014 00:59:15,150 --> 00:59:16,550 and of the world at large 1015 00:59:16,550 --> 00:59:19,250 and the responsibility that we have to this crisis? 1016 00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:22,250 What responsibility do you have as a citizen of this country? 1017 00:59:22,250 --> 00:59:27,550 My responsibilities as a citizen do not include killing for it. 1018 00:59:27,550 --> 00:59:29,949 I'm not going any further. 1019 00:59:29,949 --> 00:59:32,650 They want us to try and break out. 1020 00:59:32,650 --> 00:59:37,150 They want us to become violent. 1021 00:59:38,349 --> 00:59:42,449 They want us to be like them. 1022 00:59:42,449 --> 00:59:44,849 I'm not going to let them play games with me any more! 1023 00:59:44,849 --> 00:59:49,150 Anyone that wants to come with us, come on. 1024 00:59:49,150 --> 00:59:51,550 They want to blow your brains out. 1025 00:59:51,550 --> 00:59:55,449 They're going to kill you. Straight and simple. 1026 00:59:55,449 --> 00:59:58,949 See that? That's what'll kill us! Things like that! 1027 00:59:58,949 --> 01:00:01,050 Are you familiar with Saint Thomas Aquinas? 1028 01:00:01,050 --> 01:00:02,150 Yes, I am. 1029 01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:04,449 I think he had this to say about a just war. 1030 01:00:04,449 --> 01:00:09,050 He laid down a proviso for a just war, he said this: 1031 01:00:09,050 --> 01:00:13,349 That war must be decided upon legitimate authority 1032 01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:17,849 and, secondly, that its objective must be to vindicate justice 1033 01:00:17,849 --> 01:00:21,650 and that, thirdly, it must be waged with a just intent. 1034 01:00:21,650 --> 01:00:25,949 This was during the 12th Century, before this present time. 1035 01:00:25,949 --> 01:00:27,650 He understood what a just war meant. 1036 01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:31,150 Can't you understand that the policy in Indochina 1037 01:00:31,150 --> 01:00:34,650 is even justified by a 12th Century philosopher? 1038 01:00:34,650 --> 01:00:39,550 Those provisos came from Saint Augustine originally, 1039 01:00:39,550 --> 01:00:43,250 and Saint Augustine had a fourth proviso which shows 1040 01:00:43,250 --> 01:00:46,949 the total absurdity of considering any war just: 1041 01:00:46,949 --> 01:00:48,449 That a war must be waged 1042 01:00:48,449 --> 01:00:51,150 under the control of a loving disposition, 1043 01:00:51,150 --> 01:00:55,050 that no man is fit to inflict punishment 1044 01:00:55,050 --> 01:00:59,650 until he has banished hate from his heart. 1045 01:00:59,650 --> 01:01:03,550 Temperature 109 degrees. 1046 01:01:06,949 --> 01:01:10,650 Distance to the US flag, 1047 01:01:10,650 --> 01:01:13,349 27 miles. 1048 01:01:16,650 --> 01:01:19,150 Defendant, I take it from your philosophy 1049 01:01:19,150 --> 01:01:21,949 you're opposed to slavery, is that right? 1050 01:01:21,949 --> 01:01:23,250 Yes, I am. 1051 01:01:23,250 --> 01:01:25,849 And the Civil War was fought to free the slaves? 1052 01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:27,050 It wasn't. 1053 01:01:27,050 --> 01:01:28,449 Speak up, will you? 1054 01:01:28,449 --> 01:01:30,349 It wasn't fought to free the slaves 1055 01:01:30,349 --> 01:01:32,449 and it wasn't a just war. 1056 01:01:32,449 --> 01:01:33,650 It was a just war 1057 01:01:33,650 --> 01:01:36,150 because the black people fought for freedom. 1058 01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:39,550 Would you have fought on the side of the black people? 1059 01:01:39,550 --> 01:01:41,449 Black people haven't gained their freedom! 1060 01:01:41,449 --> 01:01:45,849 What do you think what's happening right now is all about? 1061 01:01:45,849 --> 01:01:49,849 We know that there are only a handful of black militants 1062 01:01:49,849 --> 01:01:53,949 that are running the People's Army. It does not represent the community. 1063 01:01:53,949 --> 01:01:57,250 You are trying to overthrow the government. 1064 01:01:57,250 --> 01:01:59,050 Charles Robbins 1065 01:01:59,050 --> 01:02:01,449 member of the People's Army. 1066 01:02:01,449 --> 01:02:03,050 Age 25. 1067 01:02:03,050 --> 01:02:05,250 Martin Luther King was opposed to your violence and 1068 01:02:05,250 --> 01:02:09,250 you're talking about a People's Army when you're only a handful. 1069 01:02:09,250 --> 01:02:15,650 To deal with the thing of what you call black militants 1070 01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:20,349 trying to overthrow the government. 1071 01:02:20,349 --> 01:02:23,250 The thing is, we're trying to save people, 1072 01:02:23,250 --> 01:02:26,750 because the government is overthrowing itself. 1073 01:02:26,750 --> 01:02:31,750 My loyalty is to the people. People are the most important thing, 1074 01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:36,050 and people have been left out 1075 01:02:36,050 --> 01:02:40,349 while the cats that run this country have moved and shitted all over. 1076 01:02:40,349 --> 01:02:42,949 You dwell on the black problem. 1077 01:02:42,949 --> 01:02:45,050 It's quite obvious because I'm black. 1078 01:02:45,050 --> 01:02:48,449 I've been to Washington DC 1079 01:02:48,449 --> 01:02:50,550 and I have seen the schools and ghettos, 1080 01:02:50,550 --> 01:02:52,250 and we are trying to educate, 1081 01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:54,349 and yet you're trying to take over our programmes. 1082 01:02:54,349 --> 01:02:56,949 Is that what you're trying to offer? Our own programmes? 1083 01:02:56,949 --> 01:03:00,949 The thing is we don't want to take over your programmes 1084 01:03:00,949 --> 01:03:03,650 because we know your programmes are very corrupt. 1085 01:03:03,650 --> 01:03:05,949 Do you believe you're separatist or a racist? 1086 01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:08,050 I'm neither. I'm an internationalist. 1087 01:03:08,050 --> 01:03:14,150 You have no chance in hell going the way you're going. 1088 01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:18,650 Two surviving members of Corrective Group 637 1089 01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:24,750 have seized a West German sound technician as hostage. 1090 01:03:24,750 --> 01:03:26,449 We're trying to save the people. 1091 01:03:26,449 --> 01:03:27,949 In what way? 1092 01:03:27,949 --> 01:03:31,449 Through mass education. We believe in education through example. 1093 01:03:31,449 --> 01:03:35,650 We have very functional programmes. Example. Right on. 1094 01:03:35,650 --> 01:03:38,550 What kind of example are you? 1095 01:03:38,550 --> 01:03:40,050 You're a revolutionary. 1096 01:03:40,050 --> 01:03:43,349 Your newspapers show a black militant with a gun. 1097 01:03:43,349 --> 01:03:45,250 'Shoot the pigs!' 'Shoot the pigs!' 1098 01:03:45,250 --> 01:03:47,650 I believe in this. 1099 01:03:47,650 --> 01:03:49,349 It's simple and plain. 1100 01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:52,849 When fired upon, I believe in firing back. 1101 01:03:52,849 --> 01:03:55,250 One... 1102 01:03:55,250 --> 01:03:57,550 - Two... - Don't shoot. Don't. 1103 01:03:57,550 --> 01:04:00,050 Three. 1104 01:04:04,449 --> 01:04:09,349 It's just a matter of staying alive. 1105 01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:12,449 It's like a game they're playing with us. 1106 01:04:12,449 --> 01:04:16,550 You either win or you die. 1107 01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:25,650 The pigs are running madly through our community, 1108 01:04:25,650 --> 01:04:30,849 slaughtering off our children and our women. 1109 01:04:30,849 --> 01:04:35,150 The truth in America is that America is a sick society. 1110 01:04:35,150 --> 01:04:39,250 America is full of motherfuckers who have shitted upon people. 1111 01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:40,949 Are you afraid to die? 1112 01:04:40,949 --> 01:04:43,949 No, I'm not afraid to die. That's quite obvious. 1113 01:04:43,949 --> 01:04:48,150 Why are you leading your people into a mass hysteria? 1114 01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:51,349 When I walk through Washington DC asking why... 1115 01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:53,650 Hey, man, you're always in Washington DC, 1116 01:04:53,650 --> 01:04:56,949 but you ain't doing nothing in Washington DC! 1117 01:04:56,949 --> 01:04:58,949 You're out here in California right now, 1118 01:04:58,949 --> 01:05:00,250 sitting on a committee 1119 01:05:00,250 --> 01:05:02,550 that is supposed to be from this particular area, 1120 01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:04,250 but you are not even from this area, 1121 01:05:04,250 --> 01:05:06,550 because you spend most of your time in Washington DC. 1122 01:05:06,550 --> 01:05:09,050 How come you're not in Washington DC relating to the problem? 1123 01:05:09,050 --> 01:05:10,550 Does that make me a pig? 1124 01:05:10,550 --> 01:05:15,849 I don't to have to call you a pig because you know what you are. 1125 01:05:15,849 --> 01:05:18,650 What are you taking about a mad dog? Define what... 1126 01:05:18,650 --> 01:05:21,250 Would you like me to define what a politician is? 1127 01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:23,949 A politician is nothing but a debater. 1128 01:05:23,949 --> 01:05:27,349 All that you do is debate issues, you fat pig! 1129 01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:29,050 You meathead! That's all that you are, 1130 01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:31,349 because you're a lying sucker! 1131 01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:36,750 You're lying to the camera, to your mamma, to everybody! 1132 01:05:36,750 --> 01:05:38,050 Quiet! 1133 01:05:38,050 --> 01:05:39,650 Quiet, defendant! 1134 01:05:39,650 --> 01:05:42,349 You ain't got no humanity in you because you're a pig! 1135 01:05:42,349 --> 01:05:43,849 You lying punk! 1136 01:05:43,849 --> 01:05:47,650 Restrain the defendant. 1137 01:05:50,849 --> 01:05:52,849 Shut him up! 1138 01:05:52,849 --> 01:05:56,550 Shut him up! Gag him! 1139 01:05:56,550 --> 01:05:59,550 Shut him up! 1140 01:06:00,550 --> 01:06:03,849 Defence counsel. 1141 01:06:04,449 --> 01:06:06,349 Shut him up! 1142 01:06:06,349 --> 01:06:08,750 What seems quite clear now 1143 01:06:08,750 --> 01:06:12,949 is that instead of trying to bring estranged and excluded Americans 1144 01:06:12,949 --> 01:06:16,449 such as these people back into the national community, 1145 01:06:16,449 --> 01:06:18,449 the administration has chosen 1146 01:06:18,449 --> 01:06:22,349 to accept and exploit the division within the country 1147 01:06:22,349 --> 01:06:25,750 and to side with what it considers as the majority. 1148 01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:28,250 Instead of the politics of reconciliation, 1149 01:06:28,250 --> 01:06:33,550 it has chosen the politics of polarisation. 1150 01:06:33,550 --> 01:06:38,050 Have you discussed what you'll do if you have to leave him? 1151 01:06:38,050 --> 01:06:43,050 Or will you try and take him with you? 1152 01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:47,349 We never thought about it. 1153 01:06:49,650 --> 01:06:53,650 Morning on the third day. 1154 01:06:59,349 --> 01:07:05,849 When the human body has suffered a dehydration of between 6 to 10% 1155 01:07:05,849 --> 01:07:09,949 it experiences dizzines, difficulty in breathing 1156 01:07:09,949 --> 01:07:13,349 decreased blood volume, indistinct speech, 1157 01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:18,050 and finally an inabiliity to walk. 1158 01:07:18,349 --> 01:07:22,050 Distance to the US flag, 1159 01:07:22,050 --> 01:07:24,750 23 miles. 1160 01:07:25,150 --> 01:07:28,650 I'd like to know about violence on the campus. 1161 01:07:28,650 --> 01:07:31,050 I'd like to know why you people do these things. 1162 01:07:31,050 --> 01:07:32,250 A lot of us work hard 1163 01:07:32,250 --> 01:07:34,349 to build those schools and pay taxes. 1164 01:07:34,349 --> 01:07:37,949 And build these universities for our kids to go to. 1165 01:07:37,949 --> 01:07:40,949 And you people just come along and burn them right down. 1166 01:07:40,949 --> 01:07:43,050 Do you want him to answer your question? 1167 01:07:43,050 --> 01:07:46,550 You'll get a chance, Defence Counsel. 1168 01:07:46,550 --> 01:07:51,150 Students don't burn buildings down. That's just a myth. 1169 01:07:51,150 --> 01:07:55,850 It's just a sensationalised myth brought about by the press. 1170 01:07:55,850 --> 01:07:58,350 Students don't burn buildings down, 1171 01:07:58,350 --> 01:08:00,550 and, besides, I don't advocate violence. 1172 01:08:00,550 --> 01:08:05,350 Alison Michener, radical organiser of women's unions, 1173 01:08:05,350 --> 01:08:10,149 co-founder of the National Committee Against War And Repression. 1174 01:08:10,149 --> 01:08:12,750 Age 23. 1175 01:08:12,850 --> 01:08:14,850 It's a waste of time. 1176 01:08:14,850 --> 01:08:19,050 You try to destroy the Bank Of America, try to break in a window or something. 1177 01:08:19,050 --> 01:08:21,350 They can build it right up. They have the money, power. 1178 01:08:21,350 --> 01:08:26,250 That's not the way to change things. 1179 01:08:26,750 --> 01:08:29,149 I'm glad I'm here. 1180 01:08:29,149 --> 01:08:31,050 Some of the guys 1181 01:08:31,050 --> 01:08:34,449 have gotten pretty upset since the deputy incident the other day. 1182 01:08:34,449 --> 01:08:39,449 I'm afraid they're going to shoot first and ask questions later. 1183 01:08:39,449 --> 01:08:42,149 Have you heard some of the men say that? 1184 01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:44,850 They've really gotten paranoid. 1185 01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:48,050 I think that people become violent 1186 01:08:48,050 --> 01:08:52,949 when they are deprived of their basic human needs. 1187 01:08:52,949 --> 01:08:57,949 I think that they become violent when that is their only alternative 1188 01:08:57,949 --> 01:09:01,250 to achieving the satisfaction of those needs. 1189 01:09:01,250 --> 01:09:05,250 A major component of our democratic society 1190 01:09:05,250 --> 01:09:08,350 comes from the preamble to the Constitution 1191 01:09:08,350 --> 01:09:13,250 which states that an individual is guaranteed the rights to life, 1192 01:09:13,250 --> 01:09:16,250 liberty and the pursuit of happiness. 1193 01:09:16,250 --> 01:09:19,350 The rights to life. 1194 01:09:19,350 --> 01:09:22,149 It seems paradoxical to me that 1195 01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:25,750 a nation with such ideals 1196 01:09:25,750 --> 01:09:28,649 and such economic power 1197 01:09:28,649 --> 01:09:33,350 still cannot fulfill or seems unwilling to fulfill 1198 01:09:33,350 --> 01:09:34,750 basic human needs 1199 01:09:34,750 --> 01:09:39,149 of food, clothing and shelter. 1200 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:43,250 The decoy seems to have worked very well. 1201 01:09:43,250 --> 01:09:45,250 It's brought them out in the open. 1202 01:09:45,250 --> 01:09:46,550 They've reached the decoy. 1203 01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:49,750 A country with this economic power and those kinds of ideals 1204 01:09:49,750 --> 01:09:51,149 still at this point 1205 01:09:51,149 --> 01:09:57,350 can't feed 11 million people, according to a government survey. 1206 01:09:57,350 --> 01:10:02,250 Your participation in the course is terminated. 1207 01:10:02,250 --> 01:10:06,149 Temperature 111 degrees. 1208 01:10:07,149 --> 01:10:10,250 ...Still can't feed 11 million people, can't clothe those people, 1209 01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:14,850 even though they're producing those things in overabundance. 1210 01:10:14,850 --> 01:10:17,949 Now why is that? And if you have someone who can't get food stamps 1211 01:10:17,949 --> 01:10:20,050 and who can't get on welfare and who is starving, 1212 01:10:20,050 --> 01:10:22,449 that person has two alternatives 1213 01:10:22,449 --> 01:10:27,350 he or she can either sit there and watch his children starve... 1214 01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:29,750 ...or go out and fight for what he needs. 1215 01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:31,649 Stop where you are. 1216 01:10:31,649 --> 01:10:37,250 Sit down, cross your legs and keep your hands behind your head. 1217 01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:41,050 Stop where you are! Sit down where you are! 1218 01:10:41,050 --> 01:10:44,350 Cross your legs and put your hands behind your head. 1219 01:10:44,350 --> 01:10:45,850 You're under arrest. 1220 01:10:45,850 --> 01:10:48,449 I think they can't hear you. 1221 01:10:48,449 --> 01:10:51,949 Stop where you are! 1222 01:10:52,649 --> 01:10:55,050 Stop! 1223 01:10:56,449 --> 01:10:59,750 Stop where you are! 1224 01:10:59,750 --> 01:11:04,649 Stop. Sit down. Go back or I shall shoot to kill. 1225 01:11:04,649 --> 01:11:06,649 I don't think they can hear you. Just a minute. 1226 01:11:06,649 --> 01:11:09,050 Get back. There seems to be some confusion here. 1227 01:11:09,050 --> 01:11:11,750 Stop where you are! 1228 01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:13,550 Sit down! 1229 01:11:13,550 --> 01:11:15,649 Now come on. Slow up. They can't hear you. 1230 01:11:15,649 --> 01:11:18,149 Sit down! Sit down! 1231 01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:20,850 Sit down! 1232 01:11:23,550 --> 01:11:25,949 Fuck! 1233 01:11:30,149 --> 01:11:32,750 Go on! Get the gun! 1234 01:11:32,750 --> 01:11:35,250 Dear Lord, 1235 01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:38,750 we pray for Harold. 1236 01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:48,449 Violence is inherent in this society. You don't seem to understand that. 1237 01:11:48,449 --> 01:11:51,550 You fucking bastards! Get out of here! 1238 01:11:51,550 --> 01:11:54,050 The movement went through a long time in history 1239 01:11:54,050 --> 01:11:58,350 and was very reluctant to make radical changes, to become violent. 1240 01:11:58,350 --> 01:12:00,649 We saw the government would only make changes 1241 01:12:00,649 --> 01:12:02,850 when we did become violent. 1242 01:12:02,850 --> 01:12:05,050 Violent, violent, violent, violent. 1243 01:12:05,050 --> 01:12:07,250 Yes, violence, Mr Chairman. 1244 01:12:07,250 --> 01:12:11,050 I think we should realise the dangerous extent to which... 1245 01:12:11,050 --> 01:12:13,050 You wish the floor, Defence Counsel? 1246 01:12:13,050 --> 01:12:17,149 - Yes, I do! Yes, I do! - Then get up. 1247 01:12:17,149 --> 01:12:20,949 We should realise the degree to which the violence of the students 1248 01:12:20,949 --> 01:12:28,649 is now being overplayed and that of the establishment is being minimised. 1249 01:12:28,649 --> 01:12:31,750 You are trying to put radicals on trial as scapegoats 1250 01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:36,649 for the problems of your own system. 1251 01:12:36,949 --> 01:12:39,050 It's rather appropriate 1252 01:12:39,050 --> 01:12:41,149 that Harold was a poet. 1253 01:12:41,149 --> 01:12:44,949 There's no place for a poet in this culture. 1254 01:12:44,949 --> 01:12:50,149 It's so hard to have any hope about anything 1255 01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:56,250 after you see how completely inhuman people can be. 1256 01:12:58,949 --> 01:13:01,649 We must draw this cross-examination to a close. 1257 01:13:01,649 --> 01:13:03,649 There was no need to do that. 1258 01:13:03,649 --> 01:13:05,550 I'm sitting here chained in the chair 1259 01:13:05,550 --> 01:13:08,350 and you don't need to send these people you train 1260 01:13:08,350 --> 01:13:09,750 to behave like mad dogs. 1261 01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:14,149 I have a very important part of the hearing to talk to you about... 1262 01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:16,250 I don't think you know what's important, 1263 01:13:16,250 --> 01:13:19,949 ...the amnesty provision and I want to read it to you. 1264 01:13:19,949 --> 01:13:22,750 Your signing of a voluntary pledge of loyalty 1265 01:13:22,750 --> 01:13:26,149 that you will not again participate in any form or manner 1266 01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:28,850 of extra-legal or subversive political activity, 1267 01:13:28,850 --> 01:13:31,649 and that you will not again hinder State or Federal authorities 1268 01:13:31,649 --> 01:13:35,449 in matters relating to safeguarding of the national security. 1269 01:13:35,449 --> 01:13:38,550 I am loyal to the people of this country, Your Honour, 1270 01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:40,850 or whatever your title is. 1271 01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:46,250 I am not loyal to the government because it is against the people. 1272 01:13:46,250 --> 01:13:48,449 Hands behind your head. Come out. 1273 01:13:48,449 --> 01:13:52,149 Don't shoot them! Don't shoot them! They're all right! 1274 01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:54,250 Tell them not to shoot! 1275 01:13:54,250 --> 01:13:56,649 Tell that fucker not to shoot! 1276 01:13:56,649 --> 01:13:58,350 Tell them not to shoot. 1277 01:13:58,350 --> 01:13:59,649 Wait! 1278 01:13:59,649 --> 01:14:01,850 Tell that nigger to put his hands up where I can see them. 1279 01:14:01,850 --> 01:14:04,550 Fuck you! 1280 01:14:05,050 --> 01:14:08,350 Come on! Come on! Come on! There's a camera crew here! 1281 01:14:08,350 --> 01:14:09,750 I don't give a fuck who's there. 1282 01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:11,750 Ease up! Ease up! 1283 01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:13,449 Murderer! 1284 01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:15,449 Put your hands behind your head. 1285 01:14:15,449 --> 01:14:17,550 You're just waiting to kill us. 1286 01:14:17,550 --> 01:14:22,949 Take pictures of this! They're gonna kill us! 1287 01:14:22,949 --> 01:14:26,449 I think there is a chance to make it through this course 1288 01:14:26,449 --> 01:14:27,949 and I think we're going to do it. 1289 01:14:27,949 --> 01:14:30,649 We have to not lose hope and keep on going. 1290 01:14:30,649 --> 01:14:33,949 We don't have any guns. 1291 01:14:33,949 --> 01:14:37,050 Please watch them, don't leave! Come on! 1292 01:14:37,050 --> 01:14:40,149 Our choice is whether to submit to this self-destruction 1293 01:14:40,149 --> 01:14:41,949 passively or violently. 1294 01:14:41,949 --> 01:14:45,149 That's the only choice I see. 1295 01:14:45,149 --> 01:14:47,449 Fucking liar! You'll shoot us in the back! 1296 01:14:47,449 --> 01:14:50,449 Keep back. Keep back, now. 1297 01:14:50,449 --> 01:14:54,649 So you feel that, just as you feel 1298 01:14:54,649 --> 01:14:57,149 there's a reason for going on through the course, 1299 01:14:57,149 --> 01:15:00,550 this is the same way to try and deal with 1300 01:15:00,550 --> 01:15:06,550 what you feel is wrong with the system in America? 1301 01:15:06,949 --> 01:15:11,149 I think that's right. Yeah. 1302 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,550 I think if you play it 1303 01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:19,550 by the rules of the people who've set up the game, 1304 01:15:19,550 --> 01:15:21,949 even though they're stacked against you, 1305 01:15:21,949 --> 01:15:25,350 that's the only way to possibly win the game. 1306 01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:29,649 Don't do that! Don't do that! 1307 01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:34,250 Get down! 1308 01:15:34,250 --> 01:15:36,750 You goddamn motherfucking weekend warriors! 1309 01:15:36,750 --> 01:15:38,050 You killed them! 1310 01:15:38,050 --> 01:15:40,649 Oh, god! 1311 01:15:41,250 --> 01:15:43,649 Oh, god. 1312 01:15:43,649 --> 01:15:46,750 Motherfuckers! 1313 01:15:47,250 --> 01:15:48,750 You murderers! 1314 01:15:48,750 --> 01:15:51,449 Cut! Cut! 1315 01:15:51,949 --> 01:15:54,449 Kill him! 1316 01:15:54,449 --> 01:15:56,250 Leave him alone! Leave him alone! 1317 01:15:56,250 --> 01:15:59,750 That's an accident! 1318 01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:03,449 Put that fucking rock down, boy! 1319 01:16:03,449 --> 01:16:06,649 Cut the camera! 1320 01:16:08,750 --> 01:16:11,949 I feel very little hope for us. 1321 01:16:11,949 --> 01:16:13,750 I don't see any hope either way. 1322 01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:16,050 It's simply a matter of what you believe in. 1323 01:16:16,050 --> 01:16:20,350 Either you believe in non-violence or you don't. 1324 01:16:20,350 --> 01:16:21,649 And, if you do, 1325 01:16:21,649 --> 01:16:24,649 many times there's only one path left to you 1326 01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:29,350 and you have to take that, no matter what it means to you. 1327 01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:34,649 Now, come on. Help these people! Help these people! Help them. 1328 01:16:34,649 --> 01:16:36,649 Help them. 1329 01:16:36,649 --> 01:16:39,949 That one's dead. 1330 01:16:44,449 --> 01:16:47,550 Oh, you fuckers! You fuckers! 1331 01:16:47,550 --> 01:16:51,550 You shitty fucking cunts! 1332 01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:55,649 We've got one left alive, huh? 1333 01:16:55,649 --> 01:16:58,850 Fucking idiots! 1334 01:16:59,250 --> 01:17:03,949 We've seen this! We've seen this! We've seen this! 1335 01:17:03,949 --> 01:17:06,550 Officer Edwards, we've seen this! 1336 01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:08,750 I don't give a flying fuck what you've seen! 1337 01:17:08,750 --> 01:17:10,850 This is going on NBC! 1338 01:17:10,850 --> 01:17:12,250 We've seen this! 1339 01:17:12,250 --> 01:17:14,149 I don't care if you take it and jam it in your ass. 1340 01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:18,949 You murdering bastards! You fucking bastards! 1341 01:17:18,949 --> 01:17:21,850 As soon as you get through with your little hysterics, we can go on. 1342 01:17:21,850 --> 01:17:24,250 Hysterics, mate? You wait until you see yourself on TV. 1343 01:17:24,250 --> 01:17:26,250 I've been on TV before. I'm not worried. 1344 01:17:26,250 --> 01:17:28,750 Not like this you haven't. 1345 01:17:28,750 --> 01:17:31,649 Captain, should I call for the ambulances? 1346 01:17:31,649 --> 01:17:35,149 Let the buzzards get the sons-of-bitches. And him too. 1347 01:17:35,149 --> 01:17:38,050 - They threw rocks and... - This man's shook up. 1348 01:17:38,050 --> 01:17:39,649 Leave him alone. 1349 01:17:39,649 --> 01:17:42,449 The gun went off, it was an accident. I didn't want to kill anyone. 1350 01:17:42,449 --> 01:17:44,350 Why did you kill two people? 1351 01:17:44,350 --> 01:17:46,949 I don't know. It was an accident. 1352 01:17:46,949 --> 01:17:49,949 - You didn't mean to kill them? - No, I didn't want to kill anyone. 1353 01:17:49,949 --> 01:17:51,250 You didn't want to kill them? 1354 01:17:51,250 --> 01:17:53,649 No! No! 1355 01:17:53,649 --> 01:17:57,449 No, I didn't want to kill anyone! It was an accident! 1356 01:17:57,449 --> 01:18:01,449 Hey! Leave him alone. Leave him alone! 1357 01:18:01,449 --> 01:18:03,850 I didn't want to kill anyone, it was an accident. 1358 01:18:03,850 --> 01:18:07,149 - How old is this kid? - He's 18. 1359 01:18:07,149 --> 01:18:11,050 What's a kid doing in the National Guard if he can't use weapons? 1360 01:18:11,050 --> 01:18:13,250 - He's trained to use them. - Trained to use them? 1361 01:18:13,250 --> 01:18:15,750 What do you expect with all those men throwing rocks? 1362 01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:20,050 - You mean he's trained to kill people? - Yes, he is. To defend his country. 1363 01:18:20,050 --> 01:18:22,550 He's trained to defend his country! 1364 01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:26,350 You mean he's trained to kill unarmed people like that? 1365 01:18:26,350 --> 01:18:28,949 It was an accident! 1366 01:18:28,949 --> 01:18:31,250 It was an accident. They were throwing rocks. 1367 01:18:31,250 --> 01:18:33,449 The gun just went off. I didn't know what happened. 1368 01:18:33,449 --> 01:18:35,250 What are you going to say to their parents? 1369 01:18:35,250 --> 01:18:38,850 Come on, soldier. Let's go. Come on. Let's go. 1370 01:18:38,850 --> 01:18:41,050 'President Nixon in San Clemente, California, 1371 01:18:41,050 --> 01:18:43,550 'sent a telegram for reading at the Artists' Variety Show. 1372 01:18:43,550 --> 01:18:45,649 'The Chief Executive told the artists: 1373 01:18:45,649 --> 01:18:49,250 ''We Americans are known throughout the world as forward-looking people. ' 1374 01:18:49,250 --> 01:18:53,350 'The President said the USA is a symbol of progress, of hope 1375 01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:56,449 'and of just and orderly growth.' 1376 01:18:56,449 --> 01:18:59,850 'Seven flights of B-52 bombers hit guerrilla infiltration routes 1377 01:18:59,850 --> 01:19:06,050 'along the Cambodian border north of Saigon today.'. 1378 01:19:09,149 --> 01:19:13,949 The afternoon of the following day. 1379 01:19:26,050 --> 01:19:29,750 This has been a session marred by continual disruptive outbursts, 1380 01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:32,449 in direct defiance of judicial authority, 1381 01:19:32,449 --> 01:19:34,550 by the defendants and Defence Counsel. 1382 01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:37,750 Outbursts in the form of constant murmurs. 1383 01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:41,250 This disruption is a further example of what I've been referring to. 1384 01:19:41,250 --> 01:19:47,649 Marshal, you'll restrain the prisoner if he makes any more outbursts. 1385 01:19:47,649 --> 01:19:51,750 Outbursts in the form of constant murmurs and derision, 1386 01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:54,250 shouting profanity and abuse. 1387 01:19:54,250 --> 01:19:57,649 No record, no matter how skilfully transcribed... 1388 01:19:57,649 --> 01:20:01,350 - We'll have quiet here! - Or what? 1389 01:20:01,350 --> 01:20:04,350 ...can adequately portray the venom, sarcasm, 1390 01:20:04,350 --> 01:20:06,649 and tone of voice employed by a speaker. 1391 01:20:06,649 --> 01:20:09,949 This has been a session marked by guffaws, cheap theatrics 1392 01:20:09,949 --> 01:20:12,649 and other affectations used by the defendants 1393 01:20:12,649 --> 01:20:15,850 in an attempt to break up these proceedings. 1394 01:20:15,850 --> 01:20:19,350 Despite these outbursts, the proceedings have been conducted 1395 01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:21,649 with impartiality and objectivity, 1396 01:20:21,649 --> 01:20:25,949 as called for by the extreme seriousness of the circumstances. 1397 01:20:25,949 --> 01:20:29,149 Turn him loose! 1398 01:20:30,350 --> 01:20:35,149 These proceedings have been conducted before a nationwide TV audience 1399 01:20:35,149 --> 01:20:37,750 in an attempt to clarify for the American people 1400 01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:39,250 the issues at stake 1401 01:20:39,250 --> 01:20:41,949 as an object lesson for others who may be considering 1402 01:20:41,949 --> 01:20:45,949 the willful and tragic path taken by the defendants who stand before us. 1403 01:20:45,949 --> 01:20:48,250 Defence Counsel, do you have anything to say 1404 01:20:48,250 --> 01:20:53,149 as to why I should not proceed with the sentencing? 1405 01:20:53,149 --> 01:20:55,050 Ladies and Gentlemen of the tribunal, 1406 01:20:55,050 --> 01:21:00,050 I would like to read you something... 1407 01:21:01,149 --> 01:21:04,750 'The streets of our country are in turmoil.' 1408 01:21:04,750 --> 01:21:08,550 'The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting.' 1409 01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:11,949 'Communists are seeking to destroy our country.' 1410 01:21:11,949 --> 01:21:15,649 'Russia is threatening us with her might' 1411 01:21:15,649 --> 01:21:17,750 'and the Republic is in danger.' 1412 01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:20,850 'Yes, danger from within and without.' 1413 01:21:20,850 --> 01:21:27,050 'We need law and order or our nation cannot survive.' 1414 01:21:28,250 --> 01:21:30,250 We might all be forgiven 1415 01:21:30,250 --> 01:21:34,949 for supposing those to be the words of our President. 1416 01:21:34,949 --> 01:21:36,949 But they are not. 1417 01:21:36,949 --> 01:21:40,149 Those words were uttered in 1932 by Adolf Hitler. 1418 01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:42,350 Sieg motherfucking Heil! 1419 01:21:42,350 --> 01:21:48,149 We know what kind of law and order followed in that country. 1420 01:21:48,149 --> 01:21:50,250 You ask if I have anything to say 1421 01:21:50,250 --> 01:21:55,949 to show cause why sentence shouldn't be passed. 1422 01:21:55,949 --> 01:21:59,149 Other than that these are young people 1423 01:21:59,149 --> 01:22:01,750 with all of life before them, 1424 01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:05,350 full citizens of the USA, 1425 01:22:05,350 --> 01:22:09,250 to whom the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights apply. 1426 01:22:09,250 --> 01:22:13,649 No, I can't think of anything. 1427 01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:31,649 Motherfuckers. 1428 01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:36,949 Those bastards. 1429 01:22:39,850 --> 01:22:41,949 - That's it! - We're here. 1430 01:22:41,949 --> 01:22:46,149 That's the flag! We made it. 1431 01:22:50,850 --> 01:22:54,949 What are they doing there? 1432 01:22:56,850 --> 01:23:01,750 Lee Robert Brown: 15 to 21 years in a federal penitentiary. 1433 01:23:01,750 --> 01:23:06,250 Jay Kaufman: 15 to 21 years in a federal penitentiary. 1434 01:23:06,250 --> 01:23:11,750 William Luke Vallery: 7 to 10 years in a federal penitentiary. 1435 01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:15,149 Nancy Jane Smith: 7 years in a federal penitentiary. 1436 01:23:15,149 --> 01:23:19,250 James Arthur Kohler: 5 to 7 years in a federal penitentiary. 1437 01:23:19,250 --> 01:23:23,149 Mary Ellen Michener: 7 to 10 years in a federal penitentiary. 1438 01:23:23,149 --> 01:23:27,949 Charles Robbins: life imprisonment. 1439 01:23:27,949 --> 01:23:31,350 'At this point your participation in the course is completed. 1440 01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:33,449 'You are to be remanded in custody.'. 1441 01:23:33,449 --> 01:23:35,649 What? 1442 01:23:35,649 --> 01:23:41,250 'Stop right now and no harm will come to you. 1443 01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:48,449 'I don't care how far you've come, you'd better stop. 1444 01:23:48,449 --> 01:23:52,149 'Stop where you are and no harm will come to you.'. 1445 01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:55,050 We made it! 1446 01:24:01,149 --> 01:24:03,750 Stop it! 1447 01:24:16,149 --> 01:24:19,350 Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! 1448 01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:22,449 Cut! Cut! Cut! 1449 01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:25,350 Lee Robert Brown, which do you choose: 1450 01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:30,050 15 to 21 years or Punishment Park? 1451 01:24:33,149 --> 01:24:36,649 Punishment Park. So recorded. 1452 01:24:36,649 --> 01:24:40,050 Jay Kaufman: 15 to 21 years in a federal penitentiary 1453 01:24:40,050 --> 01:24:43,550 or Punishment Park? 1454 01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:51,949 Hey! Leave him alone! Stop that! 1455 01:24:52,149 --> 01:24:54,350 No! 1456 01:24:57,050 --> 01:25:01,149 Jay Kaufman: 15 to 21 years or Punishment Park? 1457 01:25:01,149 --> 01:25:02,350 Punishment Park. 1458 01:25:02,350 --> 01:25:05,449 And I'm heading back here so have your troops around this fucking tent! 1459 01:25:05,449 --> 01:25:08,949 William Luke Vallery: 7 to 10 years in a federal penitentiary, 1460 01:25:08,949 --> 01:25:10,449 or Punishment Park? 1461 01:25:10,449 --> 01:25:12,750 Punishment Park. 1462 01:25:12,750 --> 01:25:14,350 So recorded. 1463 01:25:14,350 --> 01:25:16,949 Nancy Jane Smith: 7 years in a federal penitentiary, 1464 01:25:16,949 --> 01:25:20,449 or Punishment Park? 1465 01:25:20,850 --> 01:25:22,649 Punishment Park. 1466 01:25:22,649 --> 01:25:23,750 So recorded. 1467 01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:26,649 James Arthur Kohler: 5 to 7 years in a federal penitentiary, 1468 01:25:26,649 --> 01:25:30,149 or Punishment Park? 1469 01:25:32,250 --> 01:25:34,050 I'll take the Park. 1470 01:25:34,050 --> 01:25:36,649 Take Punishment Park. So recorded. 1471 01:25:36,649 --> 01:25:39,550 Mary Ellen Michener: 7 to 10 years in a penitentiary, 1472 01:25:39,550 --> 01:25:40,750 or Punishment Park? 1473 01:25:40,750 --> 01:25:43,449 - Punishment Park. - So recorded. 1474 01:25:43,449 --> 01:25:44,750 Charles Robbins, 1475 01:25:44,750 --> 01:25:47,149 with a nod, do you want life imprisonment, 1476 01:25:47,149 --> 01:25:52,149 or, shake your head, Punishment Park? 1477 01:25:56,850 --> 01:26:00,149 How can he talk? 1478 01:26:00,750 --> 01:26:04,149 Shake your head... 1479 01:26:05,949 --> 01:26:07,850 You're gonna kill him, you fucking idiot! 1480 01:26:07,850 --> 01:26:10,850 Mr Chairman... 1481 01:26:10,850 --> 01:26:14,250 Clear the court! Clear the court! We've already made the sentences. 1482 01:26:14,250 --> 01:26:17,649 I feel so ashamed. 1483 01:26:18,850 --> 01:26:21,850 Nobody's touching that flag! 1484 01:26:21,850 --> 01:26:24,050 They were just surrendering peaceably. 1485 01:26:24,050 --> 01:26:26,850 My Christ, I've heard about the American police! 1486 01:26:26,850 --> 01:26:29,649 I'm glad you got to see it. Tell all your friends about it. 1487 01:26:29,649 --> 01:26:32,750 Send them postcards from England, because that's where they'll listen. 1488 01:26:32,750 --> 01:26:34,550 This is going on European TV... 1489 01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:36,649 I don't give a good goddamn where it goes! 1490 01:26:36,649 --> 01:26:40,750 ...And France and Germany! 1491 01:26:41,050 --> 01:26:43,550 - Remind all you... - Bloody barbarians! 1492 01:26:43,550 --> 01:26:46,649 Remind you bloody European bastards of the goddamn American soldiers 1493 01:26:46,649 --> 01:26:50,449 that are dead in your goddamn country when you're talking about it! 1494 01:26:50,449 --> 01:26:53,949 10 minutes later... 1495 01:26:55,550 --> 01:26:58,250 - Why did you do that? - Because they goddamn deserved it. 1496 01:26:58,250 --> 01:27:00,350 They killed two officers! 1497 01:27:00,350 --> 01:27:03,550 That wasn't part of the goddamn game. 1498 01:27:03,550 --> 01:27:05,350 Don't you goddamn come near us. 1499 01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:09,750 We're just doing our job and I'm tired of you hassling us! 1500 01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:12,250 Can you tell us why you did what you did? 1501 01:27:12,250 --> 01:27:15,350 For the same reason he did. They had it coming to them. 1502 01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:19,149 They had a chance to stop. Did they stop? I'm asking you. 1503 01:27:19,149 --> 01:27:20,850 Because they rushed us. 1504 01:27:20,850 --> 01:27:23,149 That's not a reason, man! That's not a reason! 1505 01:27:23,149 --> 01:27:25,949 They wouldn't have rushed us if you hadn't been there. 1506 01:27:25,949 --> 01:27:27,350 Oh, shit. 1507 01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:29,350 You were the one who started this. 1508 01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:30,750 I started it? 1509 01:27:30,750 --> 01:27:34,050 I told the man to stop. The captain told the man to stop. 1510 01:27:34,050 --> 01:27:37,250 And that's all there is to it. He didn't stop. He attacked me. 1511 01:27:37,250 --> 01:27:40,449 I don't care what the fuck you think. How does that sound? 1512 01:27:40,449 --> 01:27:42,449 I don't care what the hell you think. 1513 01:27:42,449 --> 01:27:45,449 You can do with your newsreels whatever you want. 1514 01:27:45,449 --> 01:27:50,850 This is the second night this has happened. 1515 01:27:50,949 --> 01:27:53,949 You could have let those four people come straight through. 1516 01:27:53,949 --> 01:27:56,750 Had they wanted to they could have done that. 1517 01:27:56,750 --> 01:28:01,050 We're dealing with criminals who have killed two of my men. 1518 01:28:01,050 --> 01:28:05,149 As it happens these four people have not hurt a goddamn fly 1519 01:28:05,149 --> 01:28:06,350 on the entire desert. 1520 01:28:06,350 --> 01:28:08,449 Do you think we'd let them reach that flag? 1521 01:28:08,449 --> 01:28:10,250 Do you think they deserve that flag? 1522 01:28:10,250 --> 01:28:13,850 They belong to this country as much as you do. 1523 01:28:13,850 --> 01:28:16,550 They care about this country as much as you do. 1524 01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:18,750 What the hell are they doing out here? 1525 01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:23,550 They gave up their rights when they started breaking this country's laws. 1526 01:28:23,550 --> 01:28:27,949 That's what we're here for: To enforce those laws. 1527 01:28:27,949 --> 01:28:31,750 And we do a goddamn good job of it! 1528 01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:34,449 You're making out like a big humanitarian. 1529 01:28:34,449 --> 01:28:38,550 The only thing you want is to sell this to your goddamn network. 1530 01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:42,250 I don't see you putting any band-aids on anybody. 1531 01:28:42,250 --> 01:28:46,250 All you want is the money for this programme. 1532 01:28:46,250 --> 01:28:51,550 You could have opened your ranks and let them go through. 1533 01:28:51,550 --> 01:28:54,949 This happened in Chicago. It happened in Los Angeles. 1534 01:28:54,949 --> 01:28:56,649 Hey buddy, were you at Chicago? 1535 01:28:56,649 --> 01:29:02,449 It'll happen as long as we've got this type to deal with. 1536 01:29:02,449 --> 01:29:06,949 Get the defendants out of here. 1537 01:29:07,649 --> 01:29:13,050 You see what your great land is all about? 1538 01:29:16,449 --> 01:29:17,949 No, we haven't cheated. 1539 01:29:17,949 --> 01:29:21,449 You cheated. You never intended to let them finish the course. 1540 01:29:21,449 --> 01:29:22,949 You're full of shit. 1541 01:29:22,949 --> 01:29:24,350 You had radios. 1542 01:29:24,350 --> 01:29:26,449 They've obviously been under control. 1543 01:29:26,449 --> 01:29:28,949 You have your opinion. There's nothing that will change it 1544 01:29:28,949 --> 01:29:31,050 and it isn't worth my valuable time to talk to you. 1545 01:29:31,050 --> 01:29:32,750 Keep these sons of bitches out of here. 1546 01:29:32,750 --> 01:29:35,449 - That's bullshit! - We've had enough of this. 1547 01:29:35,449 --> 01:29:40,449 The 48th Emergency Internal Security Tribunal of the SW region, 1548 01:29:40,449 --> 01:29:43,350 as authorised by Executive Order No. 302, 1549 01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:46,949 William C. Hoeger, Chairman, presiding, 1550 01:29:46,949 --> 01:29:49,250 is hereby concluded. 1551 01:29:49,250 --> 01:29:56,850 - What have they done to her head? - They've bashed her about the jaw. 1552 01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:06,750 Since the completion of this film 1553 01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:09,750 one of the members of its cast. 1554 01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:13,350 Appearing as defendant Charles Robbins. 1555 01:30:13,350 --> 01:30:16,250 Has been indicted on a charge 1556 01:30:16,250 --> 01:30:19,649 of conspiracy to bomb. 1557 01:30:19,649 --> 01:30:21,449 The sentence on this charge 1558 01:30:21,449 --> 01:30:25,149 has not yet been determined. 1559 01:30:25,149 --> 01:30:26,949 For a second charge 1560 01:30:26,949 --> 01:30:30,649 of assault on a police officer 1561 01:30:30,649 --> 01:30:34,449 this cast member has been sentenced 1562 01:30:34,449 --> 01:30:38,949 to 3 years in a federal prison.