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- Are you okay? - Yes, yes.

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Think so, yes.

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Should... Are you guys okay?

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Camera rolling.

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So you're going to adjust my collar or...

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- No, you look fine. - Thank you.

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All right.

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So what-what's funny?

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What is funny? Let's...

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Well, I kind of have a rule

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that anyone who talks about comedy

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for more than, you know, a minute and a half

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and it's not funny, maybe it shouldn't be heard,

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so i think being serious about comedy and explaining...

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you-you know, it's one of those things like porn.

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You know it when you see it.

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Take a breath.

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Honey, breathe. Breathe, honey.

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O great God. What? What?

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What is it? What...

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Oh, man!

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Oh... man.

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It was hot in there.

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♪ See me in a t-shirt ♪

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♪ I have a baby face ♪

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♪ Hey, but I look so shy ♪

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♪ Say I'm a bad boy, bitch, I'm a bad boy ♪

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♪ I have a baby face ♪

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♪ And your daughter in my cradle ♪

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♪ Trust me, baby ♪

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♪ I eat my butt with a napkin ♪

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- ♪ I smoke ♪ - ♪ I go to court ♪

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- ♪ I gamble ♪ - ♪ I get divorced ♪

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- ♪ My face says Gerber ♪ - ♪ Dong says horse ♪

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- ♪ I pay my taxes myself ♪ - ♪ Nobody does them for me ♪

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♪ But before we sleep ♪

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♪ We need a bedtime story. ♪

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This is Studio 8H,

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home of Saturday Night Live for the past 50 years.

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It's also home to one of the most powerful men on television.

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and the most elusive.

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This is Lornie.

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And that's Lorne trying to avoid the camera.

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Because after 50 years of avoiding it,

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Lorne has unwittingly agreed

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to make a documentary about him

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and allowed access to his inner circle

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for the first time.

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What have I gotten myself into?

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I know. It's... I feel sorry for you.

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He will give you no... It's... He...

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That's why he never made one.

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I think he is a very undocumented man.

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As an illegal?

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He is undocumented.

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Just because it's from Canada,

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he doesn't get that much attention.

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This will be the most boring documentary ever

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that you have ever done.

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Okay, let's switch gears here.

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This is Lorne's office.

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The same office he has had since 1975,

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when he started Saturday Night Live.

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Direct from New York, it's...

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These are Lorne's Tootsie Rolls.

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And these are Lorne's fish.

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This is Lorne who has

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an important conversation that we cannot hear

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because Lorne won't hold a microphone.

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I don't think I would

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I advise you to try to get hold of Lorni.

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He wouldn't be happy with that,

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and then you will catch a boy who is not happy.

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Like Cher and Madonna,

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You just have to say, "Lorne."

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at the same time,

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He is an enigma to many.

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He doesn't let many people in.

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It's hard to find someone who is less focused.

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And I think it's intentional.

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You have to be with him for a long time before he is released,

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and just sat down and grabbed it

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to sit like this will

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be the hard part.

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I'll turn off the phone.

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Yes.

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All right.

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Now you're a Kardashian.

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Is that width, Steve?

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Is it as wide as it will get?

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No, we can expand a bit more.

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Let's start with her as a founder.

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This is a beautiful collection of apples,

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don't you think so?

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Yes.

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They are tastier than usual.

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- Yes. - They are not...

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- This is their time. - Yes.

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- Hello. - Hey.

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- How are we? - How are you doing?

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- Good. how are you - Yes. Are people polite?

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- Yes. Yes. - Yes? Good.

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Just let us know

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the things you value most and have high hopes for.

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I really like the “Hip-Hop Museum Panel”.

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Eh.

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And "The Golden Bachelorette"

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It feels like a good and safe start to me.

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Mon.

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If you have small amounts

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of the time you spend with him, especially in the beginning, you're like,

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"I can't believe this guy is responsible for all the comedy."

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Lorni in real life,

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He really says funny things all the time.

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He's - he's not...

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He won't go long without telling a joke.

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I think, if it works, we keep it,

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and if it doesn't happen...

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- Yes. - Just a memory.

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I quickly realized that he is having a lot of sex with you.

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Everything about this guy is so weird and interesting.

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Questions you want to ask Lorne,

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I would ask other people, and then they would give it to you

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a bunch of different answers, and then you can...

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Let's cut them together with funny music?

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Exactly.

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Do you know anything about his childhood?

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Su-Suburb of Toronto?

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- Eh. - Okay?

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- This is Canada. - He liked hockey.

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He liked hockey.

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Lots of things like outdoor hockey.

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Fishing and, you know, things like that.

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If you told me he made maple syrup, I would believe you.

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I don't seem to know what his father did...

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We have to ask him.

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We must, so to speak, meet Lorne.

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Just talk to him.

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There is a folkloric quality about who Lorne is,

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and hear stories before you get here.

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Or listen to Dana's impression.

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Right.

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Or Dr. Evil.

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Right.

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You are prepared for the myth.

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I still don't have the first damn act.

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It's called planning.

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Uh...

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Can I get you something else, Chris?

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Oh, grappa, wine,

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cappuccino, tickets to a Lakers game?

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Land in Montana?

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Is Mark doing...

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Who is Mark dealing with?

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Good evening.

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I'm Lorne Michaels.

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I played Lorne. Thanks for reminding me.

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I think you'll feel better if you come to my office.

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and, um, kiss me.

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Seth and everyone would do Lorne impressions.

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Out loud.

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"Oh, somebody suck my dick."

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And I'd be like,

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"Guys, he's right down the hall."

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I am of the Robert Smigel school.

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Which means we don't like an accurate impression.

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We like a long and funny impression.

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♪ Home of Saturday TV Entertainment ♪

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- ♪ House of Entertainment TV, House of Entertainment TV. ♪ - Back here with my show!

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With this whole documentary, I mean, Paul made a,

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Steve made one, and it's like,

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at the end of the day, the work is the legacy.

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I mean, unless you think it's a good idea.

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He has given us all these wonderful careers.

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And how do we repay him?

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Doing a cartoonish impression.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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People have this idea that they know me.

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But I don't know myself.

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So if it's my job to make sense of it, at least

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- try to make it coherent... - Yes?

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Well, good luck, I know.

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In an effort to dig deeper,

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The movie producers sat down with Lorne for a series

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of interviews over the next year.

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You are on your deathbed and you look up.

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Who do you want to see?

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If you do it right, it will be your children.

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And if you do it wrong, in my case,

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would be old cast members

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but not necessarily the ones you want to see.

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I would say it in a... in an unpleasant way,

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but I was like, "All babies are ugly unless it's your baby."

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And, but three months later, people say, "What a cute baby."

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It was a thing of my childhood I thought

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If I were ever a lumberjack, I'd be in pretty good shape.

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And I would live outside.

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It would be really healthy and, you know,

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That might be a... something I do, you know?

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I also thought that if I ever went to jail,

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I would have to read a lot.

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But these are childhood things.

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He told me something like

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"If you will really understand me,

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I understand the show."

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Yes, absolutely.

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SNL is what makes Lorne Michaels Lorne Michaels.

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They are inextricably linked.

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The show is a sort of X-ray of Lorne.

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So, I would say, let's go back to the beginning.

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New York City, 1975.

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Crime is at an all-time high.

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A national malaise is at its height.

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And a new generation

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Raised by movies and television is ready for a change.

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Enter an ambitious 30-year-old Canadian producer

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born Lorne Lipowitz.

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Is this really necessary?

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His task:

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to fill a late-night weekend time slot

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previously occupied by Johnny Carson rebroadcasts.

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It would be a place to try new talents,

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would have different hosts,

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and it would be done live.

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The expectation, like the budget, was low.

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I think 60 Minutes meets Monty Python.

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It was a blank sheet.

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And Lorne wanted a voice in culture.

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A counterculture voice.

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So he assembled a team of nobody.

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He had three months to make them still ready for prime time.

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Saturday Night premiere here on NBC

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at 11:30 a.m. on October 11.

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Lorne Michaels is the producer.

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We were in the studio all day today and, uh,

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- all day yesterday. - What did you do?

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We're still trying to figure out how they do it

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the people in the little box. That's the only problem so far.

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What should we look for in your program?

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- Anxiety. Uh, I... - Fear.

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Yes, fear.

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NBC's "Saturday Night."

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ladies and gentlemen,

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George Carlin!

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In the first show, we did something

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called "Hospital of Bees",

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which was the maternity ward in a bee hospital.

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Mr. Bee?

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- Yes? - Congratulations.

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- It's a drone. - It's a drone!

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Congratulations, man.

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Oh God!

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It would never work on television,

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but he wanted to do it because he saw the absurdist potential.

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Mr. Bee?

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- Yes? - Congratulations.

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He is a worker.

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Is he a worker?

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- Hey. He is a worker. - He is a worker.

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- He is a worker. - Hey, a worker...

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Whether it was funny or not,

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The only note we got from the network was:

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"Nice try, but give up the bee."

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because that clearly didn't work."

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So of course, I was

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determined, therefore, to bring it back.

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Well, what will he do?

268
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I think it will go to the control room.

269
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I'll tell you this, he's crazy now.

270
00:12:19,642 --> 00:12:21,210
Well, I mean, I hope...

271
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Oh, did you see the punch?

272
00:12:22,411 --> 00:12:23,345
So in the second play,

273
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We brought the bees.

274
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O great God.

275
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I am very sorry, the number of bees has decreased.

276
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- What? - Oh, what the hell.

277
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Then, in the third show, we brought the bees back.

278
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Okay, no, that's it, that's it. Stop it.

279
00:12:38,394 --> 00:12:39,871
Leave the music. No, no, that's ridiculous.

280
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Now, I... really...

281
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I mean, I'm not going to continue with this job.

282
00:12:42,564 --> 00:12:44,199
It's just ridiculous. I...

283
00:12:44,233 --> 00:12:45,610
They told me when I came to the show

284
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that I wouldn't have to work with bees.

285
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And played.

286
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Do you think we like this?

287
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No.

288
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But we have no choice.

289
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Now the note we got

290
00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:03,852
from the net was: "More bees."

291
00:13:07,690 --> 00:13:09,825
The only rule I remember us ever having...

292
00:13:09,858 --> 00:13:11,260
this is the beginning...

293
00:13:11,293 --> 00:13:13,262
"Let's make each other laugh."

294
00:13:13,295 --> 00:13:15,898
And he assured us there were people out there

295
00:13:15,932 --> 00:13:17,967
who will laugh too.

296
00:13:18,001 --> 00:13:20,536
Wow, that's awesome bass.

297
00:13:21,137 --> 00:13:23,973
There was an audience for this material.

298
00:13:24,007 --> 00:13:27,743
They were not represented, and now they are.

299
00:13:27,776 --> 00:13:29,445
Roll over, Liri.

300
00:13:31,747 --> 00:13:33,582
Yes, that's it, really.

301
00:13:33,615 --> 00:13:36,485
Ugh, time to put away the TV.

302
00:13:37,319 --> 00:13:39,455
Television.

303
00:13:39,488 --> 00:13:40,957
Dynamic.

304
00:13:40,990 --> 00:13:42,324
Pleasant.

305
00:13:42,357 --> 00:13:43,525
Dangerous.

306
00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,994
Zip it into your car.

307
00:13:45,028 --> 00:13:47,463
It is still a modern marvel.

308
00:13:47,496 --> 00:13:51,567
I mean, it went from zero to about 90 in one season.

309
00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,335
A bit of television history

310
00:13:53,368 --> 00:13:55,939
has been explored as much as that magical first year

311
00:13:55,972 --> 00:13:57,773
of Saturday night.

312
00:13:57,806 --> 00:14:00,275
But what was the secret?

313
00:14:00,309 --> 00:14:02,578
Clips really well.

314
00:14:02,611 --> 00:14:05,481
- Wow. - And then, like, a blow to Belushi.

315
00:14:05,514 --> 00:14:07,783
Great cut, Andy Kaufman.

316
00:14:07,816 --> 00:14:09,318
Strong cutting in...

317
00:14:09,351 --> 00:14:11,320
Direct from New York,

318
00:14:11,353 --> 00:14:12,621
is...

319
00:14:12,654 --> 00:14:14,590
Uh, Timothée is going into the mounts,

320
00:14:14,623 --> 00:14:16,892
if you want to make producers soon.

321
00:14:16,926 --> 00:14:19,461
Yes, yes, I, mother... We're killing time here.

322
00:14:19,495 --> 00:14:20,930
None of this will be used.

323
00:14:20,964 --> 00:14:22,765
- All right. All right. - Yes.

324
00:14:22,798 --> 00:14:25,334
As soon as you leave the building,

325
00:14:25,367 --> 00:14:26,644
I have no idea where you are going.

326
00:14:26,668 --> 00:14:28,080
- Often for a good dinner. - He goes...

327
00:14:28,104 --> 00:14:29,671
I know he goes to a lot of dinner parties.

328
00:14:29,705 --> 00:14:31,673
- Many dinners. - With good people.

329
00:14:31,707 --> 00:14:34,576
We are all curious. It's like, we...

330
00:14:34,610 --> 00:14:37,713
I want to know what's for breakfast.

331
00:14:37,746 --> 00:14:40,950
As far as I know, he works for the CIA.

332
00:14:40,984 --> 00:14:42,718
I don't know.

333
00:14:42,751 --> 00:14:45,454
I don't know Lorne like Alec Baldwin does.

334
00:14:45,487 --> 00:14:46,923
or, mother, I have never been...

335
00:14:46,956 --> 00:14:50,359
I've never been in the ocean with Lorne.

336
00:14:50,392 --> 00:14:52,795
Yes, I was in yoga class with Lorne.

337
00:14:52,828 --> 00:14:54,964
We used to call it yoga for middle-aged white men.

338
00:14:54,998 --> 00:14:56,398
The yoga guys.

339
00:14:56,431 --> 00:14:57,800
When you receive the call, such as

340
00:14:57,833 --> 00:14:59,802
"Hey, Lorne's gonna play tennis with you," like,

341
00:14:59,835 --> 00:15:02,071
"I'll be alone with Lorne hitting tennis balls?"

342
00:15:02,105 --> 00:15:03,572
- "O great God." - Shorts?

343
00:15:03,605 --> 00:15:05,340
Shorts. can i...

344
00:15:05,374 --> 00:15:07,110
Lorni had great legs, always.

345
00:15:07,143 --> 00:15:09,112
He has this type

346
00:15:09,145 --> 00:15:10,679
"The man behind the curtain".

347
00:15:10,712 --> 00:15:13,682
Wizard of Oz type mystique about him.

348
00:15:13,715 --> 00:15:17,519
Lorne does not like to talk about his private life.

349
00:15:17,553 --> 00:15:21,523
Like his wife of 30 years or his three children.

350
00:15:21,557 --> 00:15:22,959
- He is very devoted to his family. - Yes.

351
00:15:22,992 --> 00:15:25,828
He really is, like, and he... his kids are great.

352
00:15:27,429 --> 00:15:28,740
No, that's like an Olympic success.

353
00:15:28,764 --> 00:15:30,365
- Yes. - That's true.

354
00:15:30,399 --> 00:15:31,800
How good and normal they are.

355
00:15:31,834 --> 00:15:33,468
Compared to, like, what?

356
00:15:38,007 --> 00:15:41,376
Much of the information about Lorne is kept secret.

357
00:15:41,410 --> 00:15:43,779
But not for everyone.

358
00:15:43,812 --> 00:15:45,881
We were driving home the other night,

359
00:15:45,915 --> 00:15:47,416
and I said, "I know,

360
00:15:47,449 --> 00:15:49,751
We have been friends for almost 50 years."

361
00:15:49,785 --> 00:15:52,021
He bought his own apartment which was right next door

362
00:15:52,055 --> 00:15:54,623
in my apartment, so we were neighbors.

363
00:15:54,656 --> 00:15:57,726
Literally, we can go out to the service elevator,

364
00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:00,395
and I can go into Lorne's kitchen.

365
00:16:00,429 --> 00:16:01,897
Has he changed in any way?

366
00:16:01,931 --> 00:16:03,732
that are obvious to you?

367
00:16:03,765 --> 00:16:05,001
He is richer.

368
00:16:06,535 --> 00:16:08,737
But that is, in a way, his part

369
00:16:08,770 --> 00:16:11,640
that I care less about.

370
00:16:13,042 --> 00:16:16,712
I wrote this article for, oh, Vanity Fair.

371
00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:20,749
"Who is the real Lorne Michaels?"

372
00:16:20,782 --> 00:16:24,653
"Facade behind facade?"

373
00:16:28,124 --> 00:16:29,926
"Born in a kibbutz."

374
00:16:30,626 --> 00:16:32,427
"Living in a Palestinian house

375
00:16:32,461 --> 00:16:33,896
they were leaving anyway."

376
00:16:34,496 --> 00:16:37,033
"A skinny teenager, he lifted weights"

377
00:16:37,066 --> 00:16:39,903
to build muscle and self-esteem."

378
00:16:39,936 --> 00:16:42,071
"People would be surprised to find out

379
00:16:42,105 --> 00:16:44,673
a classically trained pianist with a passion for…”

380
00:16:44,706 --> 00:16:47,542
These are all complete lies,

381
00:16:47,576 --> 00:16:48,877
and i thought

382
00:16:48,912 --> 00:16:51,713
"People will know it's funny."

383
00:16:54,716 --> 00:16:56,852
I knew he was born...

384
00:16:56,885 --> 00:16:59,621
in a kibbutz with his parents.

385
00:16:59,655 --> 00:17:01,456
He wasn't?

386
00:17:01,490 --> 00:17:03,759
Oh God!

387
00:17:03,792 --> 00:17:05,661
You're going to put this in, aren't you?

388
00:17:05,694 --> 00:17:08,530
I assumed it was some younger troll.

389
00:17:08,563 --> 00:17:12,634
It seems to me that he can pull the levers of power on Wikipedia.

390
00:17:12,668 --> 00:17:14,703
to get the change.

391
00:17:14,736 --> 00:17:16,538
By the way, if it came from Paul Simon,

392
00:17:16,571 --> 00:17:18,141
Lorne secretly loves her.

393
00:17:18,174 --> 00:17:22,544
Apparently, the internet can't be trusted either.

394
00:17:34,456 --> 00:17:37,994
A funny story when Steve Burke took over at NBC.

395
00:17:38,593 --> 00:17:42,631
He had a list. It would call the top 15 people on NBC.

396
00:17:42,664 --> 00:17:44,934
and introduces himself and says,

397
00:17:44,968 --> 00:17:47,170
"I'd like to meet for breakfast."

398
00:17:47,203 --> 00:17:48,670
Then he calls Lorne.

399
00:17:48,704 --> 00:17:50,206
Lorne is definitely one of the 15.

400
00:17:50,239 --> 00:17:51,707
The first thing Lorne does is...

401
00:17:51,740 --> 00:17:53,842
Well, it won't be for breakfast.

402
00:17:56,980 --> 00:17:59,916
Everything about SNL is designed around him.

403
00:17:59,949 --> 00:18:02,784
So there is no conference call at 9:00 am

404
00:18:02,818 --> 00:18:05,520
or organizational meeting.

405
00:18:06,155 --> 00:18:09,258
I know he goes to bed around 4:00.

406
00:18:09,292 --> 00:18:11,526
and wakes up at noon.

407
00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,896
Which is very funny, because he is 79 years old.

408
00:18:19,768 --> 00:18:21,270
The Life of Lorne Michaels

409
00:18:21,304 --> 00:18:22,871
it's one of the routines.

410
00:18:22,905 --> 00:18:24,974
Similar to the show, its weekly schedule

411
00:18:25,008 --> 00:18:27,676
has remained the same for 50 years.

412
00:18:27,709 --> 00:18:31,147
His day begins at Paul Simon's apartment with a workout.

413
00:18:31,180 --> 00:18:32,781
You.

414
00:18:33,383 --> 00:18:35,084
The thing about a recession is that

415
00:18:35,118 --> 00:18:36,919
Nobody's going to the movies anyway,

416
00:18:36,953 --> 00:18:38,653
so you will have that thing

417
00:18:38,687 --> 00:18:40,589
where some broadcasters take the hit

418
00:18:40,622 --> 00:18:42,291
and that's pretty much it.

419
00:18:42,325 --> 00:18:45,028
He is a creature of habit. Yes. Yes.

420
00:18:45,061 --> 00:18:48,031
He eats at the same three restaurants.

421
00:18:48,064 --> 00:18:52,335
He sits at the same table and orders the same food.

422
00:18:52,368 --> 00:18:55,238
They come and he says, "You know, we're going to...

423
00:18:55,271 --> 00:18:57,173
And then you, uh…”

424
00:18:57,206 --> 00:18:58,774
It's so short.

425
00:18:58,807 --> 00:19:01,911
When you make your life a live TV show

426
00:19:01,944 --> 00:19:03,913
that I don't even know what it will look like

427
00:19:03,946 --> 00:19:05,982
by Wednesday afternoon,

428
00:19:06,015 --> 00:19:08,683
I think you want a significant amount of structure

429
00:19:08,717 --> 00:19:10,852
in the rest of your life.

430
00:19:12,654 --> 00:19:14,023
I took care

431
00:19:14,057 --> 00:19:15,857
of Lorne's Aquarium for nearly 40 years.

432
00:19:15,891 --> 00:19:17,060
It never changes much.

433
00:19:17,093 --> 00:19:19,028
It should always remain very similar

434
00:19:19,062 --> 00:19:21,931
as it is today, as it was 40 years ago.

435
00:19:21,964 --> 00:19:25,134
Everything changes but remains the same.

436
00:19:25,168 --> 00:19:28,071
Sounds like a guy who doesn't like change.

437
00:19:28,104 --> 00:19:30,739
Yes! Yes!

438
00:19:32,108 --> 00:19:33,842
It's 4:00 p.m., which means

439
00:19:33,875 --> 00:19:36,212
It's time for Lorne to start his day at work.

440
00:19:36,245 --> 00:19:38,347
The first meeting is scheduled for 4:30.

441
00:19:38,381 --> 00:19:40,316
4:30, Lorne's time.

442
00:19:40,349 --> 00:19:42,218
MARK McKINNEY: "Lorne wants to talk to you"

443
00:19:42,251 --> 00:19:44,220
for your outline. He'll see you in five minutes.

444
00:19:44,253 --> 00:19:45,821
And then you sit outside his office

445
00:19:45,854 --> 00:19:47,023
with your piece of paper.

446
00:19:47,056 --> 00:19:48,958
Hours and hours.

447
00:19:48,991 --> 00:19:51,928
You never know exactly when that door will open.

448
00:19:52,794 --> 00:19:54,197
He's busy, too.

449
00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:57,366
He's not just sitting in a room trying to be late

450
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,601
for mythology or something like that.

451
00:20:00,269 --> 00:20:01,938
Unless he is.

452
00:20:04,273 --> 00:20:06,209
That would be terrible.

453
00:20:07,210 --> 00:20:08,978
The timing was a hint.

454
00:20:09,011 --> 00:20:12,115
A 2pm event started at 4pm.

455
00:20:12,148 --> 00:20:14,117
I think it's because we have such a country that can't die,

456
00:20:14,150 --> 00:20:19,388
"It should be ready at 11:30 on Saturday,"

457
00:20:19,422 --> 00:20:22,891
that everything else can slip away.

458
00:20:36,038 --> 00:20:38,874
Do you want to join hands and pray?

459
00:20:38,908 --> 00:20:41,743
I only think about the cameras.

460
00:20:42,512 --> 00:20:44,679
Do you have any idea how many people

461
00:20:44,713 --> 00:20:46,748
are they coming to this room?

462
00:20:47,782 --> 00:20:49,285
every monday,

463
00:20:49,318 --> 00:20:51,163
The writers and cast members enter Lorne's office

464
00:20:51,187 --> 00:20:55,790
to meet this week's host and make each other laugh.

465
00:20:56,791 --> 00:20:59,962
Oh. Oh.

466
00:20:59,996 --> 00:21:01,763
Anything you want to do,

467
00:21:01,796 --> 00:21:03,832
compared to anything you want to stay away from?

468
00:21:03,865 --> 00:21:07,270
Maybe "Whiskers R We" with Billie Eilish.

469
00:21:07,303 --> 00:21:08,770
I don't know. What you want.

470
00:21:08,803 --> 00:21:11,274
It would be great. You got it, you got it...

471
00:21:11,307 --> 00:21:13,409
Maya and Kristen will be around.

472
00:21:13,442 --> 00:21:14,743
- Yes. - Yes.

473
00:21:14,776 --> 00:21:15,978
Wonderful.

474
00:21:16,012 --> 00:21:18,247
Yes.

475
00:21:18,281 --> 00:21:20,349
I'm not... Am I being natural in front of the camera?

476
00:21:20,383 --> 00:21:22,218
You... Yes. Yes.

477
00:21:22,251 --> 00:21:23,986
- Under... underrated. - I'm not good.

478
00:21:24,020 --> 00:21:26,355
being a natural for the camera.

479
00:21:26,389 --> 00:21:27,889
I'm a little...

480
00:21:27,924 --> 00:21:29,067
Do you want me to invite them in?

481
00:21:29,091 --> 00:21:30,459
- Yes. Let's, mother... - All right.

482
00:21:30,493 --> 00:21:32,761
- Which chair is, uh... - It.

483
00:21:32,794 --> 00:21:34,463
This is very strange. Can I sit on the floor?

484
00:21:34,497 --> 00:21:36,798
I think it's so weird.

485
00:21:39,569 --> 00:21:41,836
For those of you who are fans of the show,

486
00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:44,839
This is Kate McKinnon.

487
00:21:49,278 --> 00:21:51,347
A while ago, me, you and the Road

488
00:21:51,380 --> 00:21:55,985
I wrote one where you were one of those attractive sushi girls.

489
00:21:56,018 --> 00:21:58,221
Lies, there's sushi on top of everything,

490
00:21:58,254 --> 00:22:00,523
and you were wearing socks, and you kept coughing.

491
00:22:02,491 --> 00:22:04,893
It might be worth a revisit.

492
00:22:04,927 --> 00:22:06,495
My sister-in-law once asked me

493
00:22:06,529 --> 00:22:09,465
if I wanted to play a quick game of Monopoly.

494
00:22:11,367 --> 00:22:13,936
My mom sometimes drinks a lot of wine

495
00:22:13,970 --> 00:22:16,138
and then he asks, mother, crazy questions.

496
00:22:16,172 --> 00:22:18,374
"Marcello, what a difference it makes

497
00:22:18,407 --> 00:22:21,344
between a backstab and a backstab?

498
00:22:23,412 --> 00:22:25,514
Everyone knows that they should...

499
00:22:25,548 --> 00:22:27,116
say something

500
00:22:27,149 --> 00:22:30,119
It's much more about, "The week has to start.

501
00:22:30,152 --> 00:22:32,887
We can't keep talking about last week's show."

502
00:22:32,922 --> 00:22:34,789
Maybe you see a small truck...

503
00:22:34,823 --> 00:22:37,093
- Eh. - And you say, "Little truck?

504
00:22:37,126 --> 00:22:39,262
Seems like a good enough truck to me."

505
00:22:54,910 --> 00:22:57,879
Well, it's the last show of '23, so...

506
00:22:57,913 --> 00:22:59,348
try to do it right.

507
00:22:59,382 --> 00:23:02,985
And, let's begin.

508
00:23:09,925 --> 00:23:11,427
Comedy writers

509
00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:14,463
and show business people are very complex,

510
00:23:14,497 --> 00:23:17,066
and their egos are fragile.

511
00:23:17,099 --> 00:23:20,469
And he is constantly able to put out fires.

512
00:23:20,503 --> 00:23:23,906
And if two people fight, he knows how to handle it.

513
00:23:23,939 --> 00:23:25,441
It's very strange,

514
00:23:25,474 --> 00:23:27,443
Hard thing to manage, and I don't...

515
00:23:27,476 --> 00:23:30,079
I wonder how long it took him to realize that.

516
00:23:30,112 --> 00:23:31,580
I mean, because if you think about it,

517
00:23:31,614 --> 00:23:34,183
when he came in, it was... when he started the show,

518
00:23:34,216 --> 00:23:38,120
there were so many strong comic voices,

519
00:23:38,154 --> 00:23:40,623
and they were peers.

520
00:23:40,656 --> 00:23:44,293
For all of us, it was not only our first success,

521
00:23:44,327 --> 00:23:46,929
it was... it was something that was, uh...

522
00:23:46,962 --> 00:23:48,264
that we never, until today,

523
00:23:48,297 --> 00:23:50,499
as you can tell how inarticulate I am

524
00:23:50,533 --> 00:23:52,101
for the emotional part of it,

525
00:23:52,134 --> 00:23:54,904
it was something where we were all so...

526
00:23:54,937 --> 00:23:56,405
not only do they live on top of each other,

527
00:23:56,439 --> 00:24:00,142
there was just this overwhelming sense of joy,

528
00:24:00,176 --> 00:24:02,478
wanting so much to succeed.

529
00:24:02,511 --> 00:24:04,480
It was all for one and one for all,

530
00:24:04,513 --> 00:24:06,482
and then suddenly it wasn't anymore.

531
00:24:06,515 --> 00:24:08,660
Because he can't put on a show. Listen, he was wearing clothes worn...

532
00:24:08,684 --> 00:24:11,053
You'll have to ask Danny to come out and do the opening.

533
00:24:11,087 --> 00:24:12,631
- Belushi just isn't young... - Mr. Michaels?

534
00:24:12,655 --> 00:24:14,490
Yes. One second, please, okay?

535
00:24:14,523 --> 00:24:15,890
Send Danny out.

536
00:24:15,925 --> 00:24:17,526
Can you imagine trying to ride a herd?

537
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,528
on that original cast of SNL ?

538
00:24:21,097 --> 00:24:22,507
Look, I can't put this man on TV.

539
00:24:22,531 --> 00:24:24,367
He's... I mean, he's... barely awake.

540
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,670
Lorne, if John Belushi could talk,

541
00:24:27,703 --> 00:24:30,106
He would tell you that he must go on.

542
00:24:30,139 --> 00:24:32,375
It was a lot of stress

543
00:24:32,408 --> 00:24:34,977
and a lot of pressure, and we just

544
00:24:35,010 --> 00:24:37,646
continued to move forward without stopping.

545
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,482
And the energy level of the show

546
00:24:39,515 --> 00:24:41,517
it was just...

547
00:24:41,550 --> 00:24:44,487
We are both wild and crazy...

548
00:24:47,456 --> 00:24:50,459
I didn't understand how...

549
00:24:50,493 --> 00:24:52,294
it would work.

550
00:24:52,962 --> 00:24:54,997
And sometimes it doesn't.

551
00:24:55,030 --> 00:24:56,499
You had said something

552
00:24:56,532 --> 00:24:58,167
which I thought was interesting.

553
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,045
- I only said one thing? - I have a lot of things here.

554
00:25:00,069 --> 00:25:01,947
- Yes, okay, yes. - Uh, here's one of the things.

555
00:25:01,971 --> 00:25:03,205
- Yes. - Um, it was you

556
00:25:03,239 --> 00:25:05,040
completely unprepared for the first five years

557
00:25:05,074 --> 00:25:07,143
- except professionally. - Yes.

558
00:25:07,777 --> 00:25:13,249
The first period was exciting but volatile.

559
00:25:13,282 --> 00:25:15,384
If your responsibility is

560
00:25:15,418 --> 00:25:18,287
for whatever standard you believe is important,

561
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,589
There will always be a distance.

562
00:25:21,257 --> 00:25:23,292
Cracks begin to form.

563
00:25:23,325 --> 00:25:26,228
Chevy Chase, Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi

564
00:25:26,262 --> 00:25:29,031
they all leave before season five.

565
00:25:29,064 --> 00:25:31,667
I don't remember him saying, "Please don't,"

566
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:33,469
or something like that.

567
00:25:33,502 --> 00:25:37,339
Or else I probably would have stayed.

568
00:25:38,107 --> 00:25:41,410
I know, I should have thought this through.

569
00:25:44,146 --> 00:25:46,582
Leaving those boys... broke her heart.

570
00:25:46,615 --> 00:25:48,350
It broke his heart.

571
00:25:48,984 --> 00:25:51,620
At the end of the fifth season,

572
00:25:51,654 --> 00:25:53,222
my contract was over.

573
00:25:53,255 --> 00:25:56,091
Everyone's contract was up, almost entirely.

574
00:25:56,125 --> 00:25:57,460
It had to be reinvented,

575
00:25:57,493 --> 00:26:00,463
and to be reinvented, it had to be blown up.

576
00:26:00,496 --> 00:26:03,599
And I didn't have...

577
00:26:03,632 --> 00:26:06,602
emotional bandwidth to do so.

578
00:26:09,038 --> 00:26:11,474
This is the last show of the year.

579
00:26:11,507 --> 00:26:14,243
Some people, in fact, think it might be

580
00:26:14,276 --> 00:26:16,479
the last show on Saturday night.

581
00:26:16,512 --> 00:26:18,080
No.

582
00:26:18,113 --> 00:26:20,583
What Lorne really hoped would happen

583
00:26:20,616 --> 00:26:23,486
was that he could take some rest,

584
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:28,090
Clean house, hire lots of new people and start over.

585
00:26:28,123 --> 00:26:29,692
I guess somehow it didn't occur to him

586
00:26:29,725 --> 00:26:32,561
that it was not really his intellectual property.

587
00:26:34,396 --> 00:26:36,632
Lorne was unhappy and was called into the office

588
00:26:36,665 --> 00:26:39,768
of NBC Entertainment President Irwin Segelstein

589
00:26:39,802 --> 00:26:42,137
to discuss the future of the show.

590
00:26:42,838 --> 00:26:45,641
He had to take the trouble to explain it to me

591
00:26:45,674 --> 00:26:48,544
that not everything you want to do, you can do.

592
00:26:48,577 --> 00:26:50,646
Because it might not be good for them,

593
00:26:50,679 --> 00:26:53,749
and they... they're practically in control.

594
00:26:53,782 --> 00:26:55,684
And he said...

595
00:26:55,718 --> 00:26:58,821
Let me tell you what happens when you leave.

596
00:26:58,854 --> 00:27:02,258
When you leave, the show will get worse.

597
00:27:02,291 --> 00:27:03,792
But not all of a sudden.

598
00:27:03,826 --> 00:27:05,528
Gradually.

599
00:27:05,561 --> 00:27:08,397
And it will take the audience a while to figure that out.

600
00:27:08,430 --> 00:27:10,533
Maybe two, maybe three years.

601
00:27:10,566 --> 00:27:13,302
And when it gets, you know, terrible

602
00:27:13,335 --> 00:27:15,671
and the public has abandoned him,

603
00:27:15,704 --> 00:27:19,241
then we'll cancel it and the show will disappear.

604
00:27:19,275 --> 00:27:23,312
But we will still be here, because we are the network

605
00:27:23,345 --> 00:27:25,648
and we are eternal.

606
00:27:25,681 --> 00:27:27,283
If you read your contract,

607
00:27:27,316 --> 00:27:30,119
says it will last for this time,

608
00:27:30,152 --> 00:27:31,554
it will cost this much money,

609
00:27:31,587 --> 00:27:33,355
and will be delivered on this date.

610
00:27:33,389 --> 00:27:36,792
Nowhere in this does it say it has to be good.

611
00:27:36,825 --> 00:27:40,329
Our job is to lie, cheat and steal,

612
00:27:40,362 --> 00:27:43,599
and your job is to make the show.

613
00:27:43,632 --> 00:27:45,668
Swallowing.

614
00:27:45,701 --> 00:27:50,839
The last scene of the last show of that season

615
00:27:50,873 --> 00:27:54,643
the "on air" sign was flashing.

616
00:27:55,878 --> 00:27:57,379
No one slept that night.

617
00:27:57,413 --> 00:28:00,115
All right. It was like, “What the hell?

618
00:28:00,149 --> 00:28:01,617
What does that mean?”

619
00:28:03,152 --> 00:28:04,820
There was nobody at NBC saying,

620
00:28:04,853 --> 00:28:07,389
"You're really important."

621
00:28:08,157 --> 00:28:10,726
I thought it was easier for me to leave.

622
00:28:11,427 --> 00:28:14,797
The show would go on without Lorne

623
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:17,366
for the next five years.

624
00:28:25,174 --> 00:28:26,508
every tuesday,

625
00:28:26,542 --> 00:28:29,578
Lorne and a select group take the host out

626
00:28:29,612 --> 00:28:33,349
in the same restaurant for 40 years.

627
00:28:33,382 --> 00:28:35,818
So we spoke to Ed, the kitchen manager,

628
00:28:35,851 --> 00:28:38,922
to learn anything we could about these dinners.

629
00:28:38,955 --> 00:28:41,256
What does he eat?

630
00:28:42,358 --> 00:28:45,394
This is a bit like Las Vegas.

631
00:28:45,427 --> 00:28:48,163
What happens here stays here.

632
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:52,868
A...

633
00:28:54,637 --> 00:28:56,372
The paparazzi were fighting, like...

634
00:28:56,405 --> 00:28:58,240
They were saying, "Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute!"

635
00:28:58,273 --> 00:29:00,175
Wait, give it a second."

636
00:29:00,843 --> 00:29:02,244
- It's snowing. - Yes.

637
00:29:02,277 --> 00:29:03,579
- Really? - Yes.

638
00:29:03,612 --> 00:29:04,747
- It's snowing. - Right now?

639
00:29:04,780 --> 00:29:06,248
- Yes. - Yes.

640
00:29:06,281 --> 00:29:08,417
It is like snow that cannot settle.

641
00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:09,518
Yes.

642
00:29:09,551 --> 00:29:11,887
They put flowers for you, I think.

643
00:29:11,921 --> 00:29:13,389
No.

644
00:29:13,422 --> 00:29:14,532
I don't think I've ever seen that.

645
00:29:14,556 --> 00:29:16,191
They have microphones.

646
00:29:16,225 --> 00:29:17,693
There's a camera crew here.

647
00:29:25,567 --> 00:29:26,936
I think so many people

648
00:29:26,970 --> 00:29:29,738
are afraid of him because, for example,

649
00:29:29,772 --> 00:29:31,640
the historical baggage that comes with it.

650
00:29:31,674 --> 00:29:33,818
Like, “Oh my God, I'm in, like, the room with Lorne Michaels.

651
00:29:33,842 --> 00:29:34,911
Like, hell."

652
00:29:34,944 --> 00:29:38,347
But he is not intimidating.

653
00:29:40,449 --> 00:29:43,786
I think his favorite band is Nirvana.

654
00:29:43,819 --> 00:29:45,821
Isn't that okay?

655
00:29:45,854 --> 00:29:47,523
I think. I don't know.

656
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:52,227
how are you doing

657
00:29:52,261 --> 00:29:54,463
Everyone is terrible. They are evil.

658
00:29:54,496 --> 00:29:56,298
- Trust me, I know. - Sara is very tough.

659
00:29:56,331 --> 00:29:58,434
- She bites. - I hear it everywhere.

660
00:29:58,467 --> 00:29:59,979
And then, yeah, I feel like people have, like,

661
00:30:00,003 --> 00:30:01,971
some good and fun ideas, and…

662
00:30:02,005 --> 00:30:04,740
- Yes. - I can't wait to see you tomorrow.

663
00:30:04,773 --> 00:30:06,442
Like me.

664
00:30:06,475 --> 00:30:07,876
It will be a complete surprise.

665
00:30:07,911 --> 00:30:09,012
- I think... - Yes.

666
00:30:09,045 --> 00:30:10,512
I think it will be.

667
00:30:10,546 --> 00:30:12,648
They captured this conversation between…

668
00:30:12,681 --> 00:30:14,483
As the actors take

669
00:30:14,516 --> 00:30:16,752
to enjoy rare personal time with Lorne,

670
00:30:16,785 --> 00:30:19,722
they also know the clock is ticking.

671
00:30:19,755 --> 00:30:23,459
To me, it's like a kind of panicky branzino,

672
00:30:23,492 --> 00:30:26,762
mother, because your things are not yet written.

673
00:30:26,795 --> 00:30:27,997
It's done much better,

674
00:30:28,031 --> 00:30:29,340
but when i first started it was, like,

675
00:30:29,364 --> 00:30:31,400
full blown panic attack and, like,

676
00:30:31,433 --> 00:30:33,535
being forced to eat a branzino.

677
00:30:33,569 --> 00:30:35,905
And then looking around, you think like,

678
00:30:35,939 --> 00:30:37,439
"Oh, and everyone ordered a salad."

679
00:30:37,473 --> 00:30:39,308
"Oh, now they have espresso coffee."

680
00:30:39,341 --> 00:30:40,776
Oh, now we have dessert."

681
00:30:40,809 --> 00:30:43,445
And then you have to sit and watch someone

682
00:30:43,479 --> 00:30:46,415
eat an ice cream that's, like, in a piece of fruit,

683
00:30:46,448 --> 00:30:49,451
and this is not the fastest way to eat a dessert.

684
00:30:59,728 --> 00:31:03,032
God, we have a lot of work to do.

685
00:31:03,066 --> 00:31:05,001
- So much. - Yes. I have to go.

686
00:31:06,970 --> 00:31:08,604
Writing night.

687
00:31:08,637 --> 00:31:11,040
Another staple of the SNL machine.

688
00:31:11,074 --> 00:31:12,841
Scripts must be submitted in the morning,

689
00:31:12,875 --> 00:31:17,446
so many of these poor souls will be here until sunrise.

690
00:31:25,654 --> 00:31:27,356
Hey can you keep it low?

691
00:31:27,389 --> 00:31:28,657
- I'm sorry. - Of course.

692
00:31:28,690 --> 00:31:29,902
- I'm kidding. - Are we shouting too much?

693
00:31:29,926 --> 00:31:31,393
- I'm sorry. - I'm kidding.

694
00:31:31,426 --> 00:31:32,986
That's pretty much our job, though.

695
00:31:34,964 --> 00:31:38,567
Here's why this sketch will fail.

696
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,870
It would be great if we didn't yell all the time.

697
00:31:43,539 --> 00:31:44,974
Throughout the years,

698
00:31:45,008 --> 00:31:47,676
People always said, "Why do we do it like this?"

699
00:31:47,709 --> 00:31:49,344
"I mean, why not use the lean weeks

700
00:31:49,378 --> 00:31:50,412
"Write more sketches?"

701
00:31:50,445 --> 00:31:51,747
"Or why don't we,"

702
00:31:51,780 --> 00:31:53,882
"You know, reuse sketches that are destroyed?"

703
00:31:53,917 --> 00:31:55,985
And why should the writing be done at night?"

704
00:31:56,019 --> 00:31:57,419
I mean, it's just, like, crazy.

705
00:32:01,723 --> 00:32:04,459
I always say, "Fatigue is your friend."

706
00:32:04,493 --> 00:32:08,864
Through fatigue and people who are just so exhausted,

707
00:32:08,897 --> 00:32:11,067
the unconscious takes over, and suddenly,

708
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,435
you take much bigger risks

709
00:32:13,468 --> 00:32:15,671
and you start to make yourself laugh.

710
00:32:15,704 --> 00:32:16,906
who are you I like it a lot.

711
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:18,340
What is this, an apple? You are employed.

712
00:32:19,875 --> 00:32:22,845
I learned this early on.

713
00:32:22,878 --> 00:32:24,513
Lorne said as he was writing

714
00:32:24,546 --> 00:32:25,814
on Laugh-In in the 60s...

715
00:32:25,848 --> 00:32:27,449
What is it?

716
00:32:27,482 --> 00:32:28,584
Laugh-In was, like...

717
00:32:28,617 --> 00:32:30,119
No, what is the 60s?

718
00:32:32,754 --> 00:32:34,890
Ah, the 60s.

719
00:32:34,924 --> 00:32:38,061
Like any good documentary, here we play clips

720
00:32:38,094 --> 00:32:40,495
of Vietnam and hippies.

721
00:32:40,529 --> 00:32:42,598
I was very motivated to be a hippie,

722
00:32:42,631 --> 00:32:44,133
but when John Lennon said

723
00:32:44,167 --> 00:32:46,735
that he was growing his hair to stop the war in Vietnam,

724
00:32:46,768 --> 00:32:48,403
I thought that was a really good idea.

725
00:32:48,437 --> 00:32:51,874
♪ Some people are born to fly the flag... ♪

726
00:32:51,908 --> 00:32:53,642
Lorne hot.

727
00:32:54,443 --> 00:32:56,012
He was a real charmer.

728
00:32:56,045 --> 00:32:59,882
In 1969, Lorne moved from Canada to Los Angeles.

729
00:32:59,916 --> 00:33:01,951
with his writing partner Hart Pomerantz.

730
00:33:01,985 --> 00:33:06,022
They had just secured a job on the hottest show on television.

731
00:33:06,055 --> 00:33:07,756
It was the number one show,

732
00:33:07,789 --> 00:33:11,027
equal to Here's Lucy.

733
00:33:11,060 --> 00:33:13,062
So the country was divided.

734
00:33:13,096 --> 00:33:16,632
He is right. The country was very divided.

735
00:33:16,665 --> 00:33:17,967
On Monday night television.

736
00:33:18,001 --> 00:33:21,170
And Lorne was on the front lines.

737
00:33:22,671 --> 00:33:24,439
As always, I was interested

738
00:33:24,473 --> 00:33:25,909
in the way it was done.

739
00:33:25,942 --> 00:33:28,443
But we were never on a casting call,

740
00:33:28,477 --> 00:33:30,445
and we were never in the studio.

741
00:33:30,479 --> 00:33:32,681
They had the writers in a building,

742
00:33:32,714 --> 00:33:34,883
and not even in the parking lot,

743
00:33:34,918 --> 00:33:37,619
and they would send the material.

744
00:33:37,653 --> 00:33:39,122
They were just kidding,

745
00:33:39,155 --> 00:33:41,057
give them to someone else to rewrite.

746
00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:44,160
You don't even know until you watch the show on TV

747
00:33:44,193 --> 00:33:45,962
if any of your words are there.

748
00:33:46,595 --> 00:33:48,097
It was discouraging,

749
00:33:48,131 --> 00:33:49,999
because you're not really connected,

750
00:33:50,033 --> 00:33:51,800
You don't know the cast.

751
00:33:53,102 --> 00:33:57,006
Her fun, that spirit, was missing.

752
00:33:57,773 --> 00:34:02,946
It's amazing how advanced this series is by the writers.

753
00:34:02,979 --> 00:34:06,215
This is the most special thing he has added to the culture

754
00:34:06,249 --> 00:34:08,817
I don't think people know.

755
00:34:09,451 --> 00:34:11,720
You can write whatever you want.

756
00:34:11,753 --> 00:34:13,089
You are expected to, in some way,

757
00:34:13,122 --> 00:34:16,025
to bring something new or strange or specific.

758
00:34:16,059 --> 00:34:18,827
And then there are such wonderful things

759
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:22,898
that connect and stay with people forever.

760
00:34:23,598 --> 00:34:25,969
Like the people who... who happened to be home that night

761
00:34:26,002 --> 00:34:28,637
and I saw, you know, "The Bird Family."

762
00:34:28,670 --> 00:34:30,073
- Here comes some corn. - All right.

763
00:34:32,942 --> 00:34:35,979
They will never forget "The Bird Family".

764
00:34:42,986 --> 00:34:45,054
Wednesday starts around 4:30

765
00:34:45,088 --> 00:34:46,521
with the table read.

766
00:34:47,256 --> 00:34:50,059
So far, Lorne's producers have narrowed down the sketches.

767
00:34:50,093 --> 00:34:52,261
from 60 to about 40,

768
00:34:52,295 --> 00:34:55,630
which will be read over the next four hours.

769
00:34:56,698 --> 00:35:00,069
The way he reads stage directions...

770
00:35:00,103 --> 00:35:02,138
Have you been on a speed read?

771
00:35:02,171 --> 00:35:03,239
Yes, yes.

772
00:35:04,873 --> 00:35:06,109
"Outside a high school.

773
00:35:06,142 --> 00:35:07,977
"We go to a difficult high school class.

774
00:35:08,011 --> 00:35:10,179
"Actors and actors are noisy teenagers.

775
00:35:10,213 --> 00:35:12,248
"Kenan enters as director.

776
00:35:12,281 --> 00:35:15,318
"Jake walks in dressed as Neo from the Matrix.

777
00:35:15,351 --> 00:35:16,953
"He's wet and breathing deeply.

778
00:35:16,986 --> 00:35:18,955
Everyone is silent for a moment."

779
00:35:18,988 --> 00:35:22,657
Wow, are you our...

780
00:35:22,691 --> 00:35:25,161
Not today.

781
00:35:26,595 --> 00:35:28,031
So when I see you

782
00:35:28,064 --> 00:35:30,899
During a reading, what are you mainly thinking about?

783
00:35:30,933 --> 00:35:33,568
How the hell am I still doing?

784
00:35:33,602 --> 00:35:35,704
that part of the job.

785
00:35:36,406 --> 00:35:38,074
The best reader on the table,

786
00:35:38,107 --> 00:35:40,052
when you're doing something and it's not going well,

787
00:35:40,076 --> 00:35:42,611
and you look up at Lorne, and he's looking at you...

788
00:35:42,644 --> 00:35:45,314
- Oh my God. - On his glasses like these.

789
00:35:45,348 --> 00:35:48,051
How...

790
00:35:48,084 --> 00:35:49,851
I don't think I've ever had one,

791
00:35:49,885 --> 00:35:51,196
but I definitely did one thing at the table

792
00:35:51,220 --> 00:35:54,257
where he actually put his head in his hands.

793
00:35:54,290 --> 00:35:56,558
How...

794
00:35:57,493 --> 00:36:01,064
How many sketches has Lorne heard,

795
00:36:01,097 --> 00:36:02,898
- such as through reading? - Oh, yes.

796
00:36:02,932 --> 00:36:04,733
There must be tens of thousands.

797
00:36:04,766 --> 00:36:06,868
- 21 indicates a season. - Agreed.

798
00:36:06,903 --> 00:36:08,837
- For 45 seasons. - 45...

799
00:36:11,974 --> 00:36:13,209
Wow! This was...

800
00:36:13,242 --> 00:36:17,779
That's at least 28,350 sketches.

801
00:36:17,813 --> 00:36:19,949
That he heard it and had to read it.

802
00:36:19,982 --> 00:36:22,218
Uh, "the secretary of state appoints..."

803
00:36:22,251 --> 00:36:24,853
"Maya as an extravagant presenter of a Latin show..."

804
00:36:24,886 --> 00:36:28,690
"Now, please welcome the Leonardo DiCaprio of hotel television,

805
00:36:28,723 --> 00:36:30,826
Mario Lopez."

806
00:36:30,859 --> 00:36:32,861
When you can laugh out loud with Lorne,

807
00:36:32,894 --> 00:36:34,729
You feel like, you're like, “I don't even care

808
00:36:34,763 --> 00:36:36,108
"If the sketch succeeds. Lorne just laughed.

809
00:36:36,132 --> 00:36:38,367
I feel good."

810
00:36:38,401 --> 00:36:40,303
I don't know exactly what it is,

811
00:36:40,336 --> 00:36:41,971
but when you catch it, it means...

812
00:36:42,004 --> 00:36:43,882
- means everything. - Oh, it's so... so satisfying.

813
00:36:43,906 --> 00:36:46,242
Sometimes, too, it may not be

814
00:36:46,275 --> 00:36:48,844
funny to him, but he can see, like,

815
00:36:48,877 --> 00:36:52,081
other people really enjoy it, and he knows it,

816
00:36:52,115 --> 00:36:54,984
"There will be things I won't be aware of"

817
00:36:55,017 --> 00:36:57,120
This will be very important to people.”

818
00:36:57,153 --> 00:37:00,389
He takes, like, 24-year-olds very seriously,

819
00:37:00,423 --> 00:37:03,892
in a way that I think a lot of people probably wouldn't.

820
00:37:03,926 --> 00:37:05,660
Very nice to see a movie

821
00:37:05,694 --> 00:37:06,871
full of weird trolls out there

822
00:37:06,895 --> 00:37:08,307
doing their thing for the first time.

823
00:37:08,331 --> 00:37:09,664
Weird trolls on screen.

824
00:37:09,698 --> 00:37:11,000
We did it.

825
00:37:11,033 --> 00:37:12,901
When you are on the third page

826
00:37:12,935 --> 00:37:16,771
of a 14-page write-up, sometimes I really feel

827
00:37:16,805 --> 00:37:19,442
that life is getting out of my hands.

828
00:37:19,475 --> 00:37:21,344
But you never can tell

829
00:37:21,377 --> 00:37:23,012
"Alright, I think we're done with this.

830
00:37:23,045 --> 00:37:24,713
Let's move on to the next part."

831
00:37:24,746 --> 00:37:26,315
Because in that kind of community,

832
00:37:26,349 --> 00:37:30,219
Everyone deserves to have their work heard.

833
00:37:31,220 --> 00:37:33,089
Even if it's terrible.

834
00:37:37,426 --> 00:37:40,163
Once we were in a restaurant and a woman came

835
00:37:40,196 --> 00:37:43,166
with a script with an obscure cover,

836
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:44,900
like that kind of, like, a little girl

837
00:37:44,934 --> 00:37:46,245
- I would have it in a notebook. - Mm-hmm.

838
00:37:46,269 --> 00:37:48,304
And she said, “My husband wrote this script.

839
00:37:48,337 --> 00:37:50,907
Will you read it?" And he goes on, “Yeah, yeah.

840
00:37:50,940 --> 00:37:53,910
- "I understand. I understand." - Oh, wow.

841
00:37:53,943 --> 00:37:55,978
"I understand." And he got it.

842
00:37:56,012 --> 00:37:57,779
And I say, "Well, did you get the script?"

843
00:37:57,812 --> 00:37:59,315
He says, "Let me tell you why."

844
00:37:59,348 --> 00:38:01,117
He says, "Terry Melcher..."

845
00:38:02,751 --> 00:38:03,986
Oh, this - this is very good.

846
00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:06,022
Terry Melcher told Charles Manson,

847
00:38:06,055 --> 00:38:07,490
"I won't do your demo,"

848
00:38:07,523 --> 00:38:09,734
and that's why Manson sent them to Terry Melcher's house,

849
00:38:09,758 --> 00:38:11,726
and Sharon Tate was there.

850
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,029
So he accepts everything...

851
00:38:13,062 --> 00:38:14,796
- Oh my God. - Yes, a stranger

852
00:38:14,829 --> 00:38:15,965
there's, like, a work of art

853
00:38:15,998 --> 00:38:17,832
- They did... - Yes, yes.

854
00:38:17,866 --> 00:38:20,069
- "I understand. I understand." - Yes.

855
00:38:20,102 --> 00:38:22,371
Being like, “Me and you… like, I get it.

856
00:38:22,405 --> 00:38:23,949
- "Don't kill me." - Yes, yes, yes, yes.

857
00:38:23,973 --> 00:38:25,241
- This is very good. - But also,

858
00:38:25,274 --> 00:38:27,977
They did some Manson sketches in the 70s,

859
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:30,179
and Squeaky Fromme sent him a letter from prison

860
00:38:30,213 --> 00:38:34,083
that said, "I understand you've been a bad boy.

861
00:38:34,116 --> 00:38:36,219
Charlie is God. Charlie is Jesus.

862
00:38:36,252 --> 00:38:37,386
And then a smiling face.

863
00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:38,955
- Oh! - And he went,

864
00:38:38,988 --> 00:38:40,899
"And it's the smiling face that really freaked me out."

865
00:38:40,923 --> 00:38:43,392
Oh, brother. I would frame this.

866
00:38:44,060 --> 00:38:46,229
- Come on. - She called him a bad boy?

867
00:38:46,262 --> 00:38:48,830
"I heard you're a bad boy."

868
00:38:57,872 --> 00:39:00,809
After listening to dozens of sketches while reading,

869
00:39:00,842 --> 00:39:02,178
Lorne and host,

870
00:39:02,211 --> 00:39:04,547
along with the main producers and writers,

871
00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:07,283
choose ten to twelve to produce.

872
00:39:10,353 --> 00:39:12,221
often on wednesday

873
00:39:12,255 --> 00:39:13,888
when you go to that meeting,

874
00:39:13,923 --> 00:39:16,125
it seems like you have nothing.

875
00:39:16,158 --> 00:39:20,096
I think just the natural panic of it,

876
00:39:20,129 --> 00:39:22,331
for me, it would be... coming soon.

877
00:39:22,365 --> 00:39:24,533
It's never like that for him.

878
00:39:24,567 --> 00:39:26,035
"Church on vacation."

879
00:39:26,068 --> 00:39:27,769
- We're there, aren't we? - Yes.

880
00:39:28,437 --> 00:39:29,905
Yes.

881
00:39:29,939 --> 00:39:31,207
"They're listening"?

882
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:32,874
I really like "They're Listening".

883
00:39:32,908 --> 00:39:34,577
Uh, "LiMu Emu"?

884
00:39:34,610 --> 00:39:36,912
I like it.

885
00:39:38,147 --> 00:39:39,591
Liberty Mutual lets you customize and save,

886
00:39:39,615 --> 00:39:41,350
so you only pay for what you need.

887
00:39:41,384 --> 00:39:42,551
Wow. Really?

888
00:39:45,087 --> 00:39:46,756
What the hell, LiMu?

889
00:39:47,923 --> 00:39:49,191
He barely moved!

890
00:39:49,225 --> 00:39:50,926
If we were to make "LiMu Emu",.

891
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,030
Shane plays the main role in all the series "Trump" and "PDD".

892
00:39:54,063 --> 00:39:56,132
There aren't enough hours in the day.

893
00:39:56,165 --> 00:39:58,334
Because of those two, I think...

894
00:39:58,367 --> 00:40:01,337
"Trump Sneakers" is... I'd rather do that.

895
00:40:01,370 --> 00:40:03,239
So what is the third?

896
00:40:03,272 --> 00:40:05,241
We can do "Sports Betting".

897
00:40:05,274 --> 00:40:06,375
Eh.

898
00:40:06,409 --> 00:40:10,279
He is so good at showing up all the time

899
00:40:10,313 --> 00:40:13,082
in control, calm,

900
00:40:13,115 --> 00:40:16,052
confused, unaffected.

901
00:40:16,085 --> 00:40:19,322
Lorne's confidence...

902
00:40:19,355 --> 00:40:20,523
It is not an ego maniac.

903
00:40:20,556 --> 00:40:24,826
He is not talking about "I". He is talking about "us".

904
00:40:25,461 --> 00:40:30,599
But where this confidence came from... I don't know.

905
00:40:33,102 --> 00:40:35,538
It's Hart and Lorne's Wonder Hour!

906
00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:39,075
In the early 70s,

907
00:40:39,108 --> 00:40:40,609
Lorne had returned to Canada

908
00:40:40,643 --> 00:40:44,480
starring in a short-lived CBC variety show.

909
00:40:44,513 --> 00:40:46,048
And now it's time again

910
00:40:46,082 --> 00:40:47,922
to talk to our old friend, the Canadian Beaver.

911
00:40:47,950 --> 00:40:49,218
Beav, how are you?

912
00:40:49,251 --> 00:40:50,619
Oh, beautiful to pieces. Very pretty to pieces.

913
00:40:52,355 --> 00:40:53,589
in sports,

914
00:40:53,622 --> 00:40:58,994
All great coaches were bad players.

915
00:40:59,028 --> 00:41:02,431
And Lorne had, you know, average success.

916
00:41:02,465 --> 00:41:04,400
Well, that's all you need.

917
00:41:06,102 --> 00:41:08,504
This is the greatest education in the world.

918
00:41:10,406 --> 00:41:12,308
When the show was finally cancelled,

919
00:41:12,341 --> 00:41:17,380
Lorne moved to Los Angeles to reinvent himself as a producer.

920
00:41:20,182 --> 00:41:21,650
Stop!

921
00:41:23,285 --> 00:41:25,521
Most people I've talked to have met Lorne

922
00:41:25,554 --> 00:41:27,256
when he started on SNL,

923
00:41:27,289 --> 00:41:30,059
and he was somewhat more formed as a person.

924
00:41:30,092 --> 00:41:31,494
- Eh. - But...

925
00:41:31,527 --> 00:41:32,628
Yes?

926
00:41:32,661 --> 00:41:34,397
But who was he when you met him?

927
00:41:35,531 --> 00:41:38,000
Oh, I think, for such a young man,

928
00:41:38,033 --> 00:41:40,269
he was quite sophisticated.

929
00:41:40,302 --> 00:41:43,205
Or we - maybe we thought it was sophisticated.

930
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,409
She was very similar to the spirit.

931
00:41:46,442 --> 00:41:48,411
It was someone who is on the same wavelength

932
00:41:48,444 --> 00:41:52,248
and-and I cared as much that she was good as I cared.

933
00:41:52,281 --> 00:41:56,051
This is one thing Lorne and I particularly liked,

934
00:41:56,085 --> 00:41:59,288
was to find something divinely stupid.

935
00:41:59,321 --> 00:42:02,291
Lily decided to give Lorne a chance,

936
00:42:02,324 --> 00:42:06,095
so she hired him to write and produce her TV specials.

937
00:42:06,128 --> 00:42:08,097
He was ambitious. He was vulnerable.

938
00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:09,665
He was everything.

939
00:42:09,698 --> 00:42:11,233
I liked it a lot.

940
00:42:11,267 --> 00:42:13,369
And then I started to dislike him because he was

941
00:42:13,402 --> 00:42:16,238
bit, mother, contemptuous.

942
00:42:16,272 --> 00:42:18,641
At one point, I said to Jane, my partner,

943
00:42:18,674 --> 00:42:20,276
"I'll fire him."

944
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:23,245
Her, "Oh, no, no, you can't. You can't fire Lorne."

945
00:42:23,279 --> 00:42:25,548
"He's just... he's talented and he needs..."

946
00:42:25,581 --> 00:42:28,184
"He needs to have confidence, more confidence."

947
00:42:28,217 --> 00:42:31,086
You should compliment him more.”

948
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,522
And I said, "Okay."

949
00:42:36,025 --> 00:42:38,594
That was just his cover.

950
00:42:38,627 --> 00:42:41,096
He had so much to prove.

951
00:42:41,764 --> 00:42:43,599
And he was proving it.

952
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,502
Lili was the first person to go on a network and suggest

953
00:42:46,535 --> 00:42:48,571
that I was able to produce, and I thank him for that.

954
00:42:51,307 --> 00:42:54,043
Faith comes slowly.

955
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:59,081
And the nature of the show is that it doesn't stop.

956
00:42:59,114 --> 00:43:00,182
It keeps moving.

957
00:43:04,653 --> 00:43:06,322
Can I call you right away?

958
00:43:06,355 --> 00:43:08,057
If not for Lily,

959
00:43:08,090 --> 00:43:10,259
Lorne would never have won SNL.

960
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,029
But in the early 80s,

961
00:43:14,063 --> 00:43:16,465
what he needed was a job.

962
00:43:17,266 --> 00:43:19,368
There were many articles

963
00:43:19,401 --> 00:43:21,504
how Saturday night fell apart.

964
00:43:21,537 --> 00:43:24,640
You see, Lorne Michaels, the producer of Saturday Night,

965
00:43:24,673 --> 00:43:26,475
decided after last season

966
00:43:26,509 --> 00:43:29,378
that the time had come to move on to different things.

967
00:43:30,579 --> 00:43:33,482
So, going back to 1980...

968
00:43:33,516 --> 00:43:35,784
I know, it was confusing.

969
00:43:35,818 --> 00:43:38,087
It was lonely.

970
00:43:38,687 --> 00:43:40,356
It's a separation.

971
00:43:40,389 --> 00:43:43,158
Please write a postcard or letter to...

972
00:43:45,494 --> 00:43:48,264
Let's put this show out of its misery.

973
00:43:48,297 --> 00:43:49,798
Nobody really believes me,

974
00:43:49,832 --> 00:43:52,801
but I didn't see the show for those five years.

975
00:43:55,170 --> 00:43:57,640
I spent a lot of time in my garden.

976
00:43:59,308 --> 00:44:01,677
Just decompressing.

977
00:44:01,710 --> 00:44:03,445
Healing myself.

978
00:44:06,348 --> 00:44:09,151
With every big crack,

979
00:44:09,184 --> 00:44:12,321
nature allowed me to reconnect

980
00:44:12,354 --> 00:44:15,391
for something that seemed more important.

981
00:44:17,293 --> 00:44:21,397
And so I built a pond.

982
00:44:22,865 --> 00:44:25,267
But not physically.

983
00:44:25,301 --> 00:44:27,403
He wasn't... he didn't open the pit.

984
00:44:31,273 --> 00:44:32,575
I wish it was big

985
00:44:32,608 --> 00:44:34,610
but not the thing where I am announcing myself,

986
00:44:34,643 --> 00:44:37,313
like when Sonny and Cher came back and it was like,

987
00:44:37,346 --> 00:44:40,182
"Here we are," and no one cared anymore.

988
00:44:40,215 --> 00:44:42,718
I remember a trip he took.

989
00:44:42,751 --> 00:44:44,687
You'd have to ask Paul about that.

990
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,188
Oh yeah, all the way to Tennessee?

991
00:44:46,221 --> 00:44:48,390
They went up Highway 61,

992
00:44:48,424 --> 00:44:50,225
all the way to Graceland.

993
00:44:50,259 --> 00:44:51,493
They stopped us,

994
00:44:51,527 --> 00:44:53,495
and a police officer recognized me,

995
00:44:53,529 --> 00:44:56,231
and then w... and wanted my autograph.

996
00:44:59,936 --> 00:45:01,370
I think this trip had

997
00:45:01,403 --> 00:45:04,206
a profound influence on both.

998
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,909
This made him have an understanding

999
00:45:05,942 --> 00:45:09,345
of a culture and a world he had never experienced.

1000
00:45:09,378 --> 00:45:12,481
Then, from this came the album Graceland.

1001
00:45:12,514 --> 00:45:14,249
♪ Mississippi Delta ♪

1002
00:45:14,283 --> 00:45:16,585
♪ It was shining like a National Guitar... ♪

1003
00:45:16,619 --> 00:45:18,487
So much from Hollywood,

1004
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,224
They perform for the I-95 corridor,

1005
00:45:22,257 --> 00:45:24,360
and he has an understanding of

1006
00:45:24,393 --> 00:45:28,297
and sensitivity to Middle America.

1007
00:45:28,330 --> 00:45:30,366
♪ I'm going to Graceland ♪

1008
00:45:30,399 --> 00:45:32,201
♪ Memphis, Tennessee ♪

1009
00:45:32,234 --> 00:45:34,269
♪ I'm going to Graceland... ♪

1010
00:45:34,303 --> 00:45:36,538
He is here, and he is not here.

1011
00:45:36,572 --> 00:45:38,807
Because I think the more you get into it,

1012
00:45:38,841 --> 00:45:40,376
the more you think that,

1013
00:45:40,409 --> 00:45:42,878
for the Saturday Night Live phenomenon,

1014
00:45:42,912 --> 00:45:46,615
the world revolves around this.

1015
00:45:46,649 --> 00:45:49,251
You can believe that your little universe

1016
00:45:49,284 --> 00:45:52,655
it is the universe, but it is not.

1017
00:45:53,355 --> 00:45:55,724
Lorne was ready to move on.

1018
00:45:55,758 --> 00:45:59,228
But as they say in Hollywood, the phone stopped ringing.

1019
00:45:59,261 --> 00:46:00,529
Until...

1020
00:46:02,498 --> 00:46:05,701
Someone from the network called and said...

1021
00:46:05,734 --> 00:46:08,837
Want my help filling a time slot?

1022
00:46:08,871 --> 00:46:12,341
No, no, it... it had four time slots.

1023
00:46:12,374 --> 00:46:13,809
No, no, no. I know.

1024
00:46:13,842 --> 00:46:15,878
"I said, 'Well, I won't do it on Saturday,

1025
00:46:15,912 --> 00:46:17,579
so maybe friday."

1026
00:46:17,613 --> 00:46:21,316
Oh, and as long as it can be different from the old show.

1027
00:46:23,385 --> 00:46:25,421
Three years ago, Michaels gave up television.

1028
00:46:25,454 --> 00:46:27,823
Now he's back with The New Show.

1029
00:46:27,856 --> 00:46:29,558
To me, it made perfect sense

1030
00:46:29,591 --> 00:46:33,629
which was now SNL ten years later,

1031
00:46:33,662 --> 00:46:36,665
the audience that adored him at 11:30

1032
00:46:36,699 --> 00:46:39,468
now they were a bit older and had children.

1033
00:46:39,501 --> 00:46:41,270
And there were incredible

1034
00:46:41,303 --> 00:46:42,771
guest castes that change in turn.

1035
00:46:42,805 --> 00:46:44,373
Lots of John Candy appearances.

1036
00:46:44,406 --> 00:46:46,709
Greetings. Roy's Food Fix.

1037
00:46:48,011 --> 00:46:49,812
Eh.

1038
00:46:49,845 --> 00:46:51,313
Yes, eggs.

1039
00:46:51,346 --> 00:46:52,881
Yes, we fix them.

1040
00:46:53,515 --> 00:46:55,651
I kind of like the idea that,

1041
00:46:55,684 --> 00:46:58,487
uh, "New" has been kind of a constant on television

1042
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,360
since, uh... since i first started watching it.

1043
00:47:00,389 --> 00:47:01,824
The New Show.

1044
00:47:01,857 --> 00:47:03,835
The idea is to move the title to the New Improved Show

1045
00:47:03,859 --> 00:47:05,995
until... you know, until March or April,

1046
00:47:06,029 --> 00:47:08,597
uh, if we feel like we do... we're getting better at it.

1047
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:11,867
That show was a damn nightmare.

1048
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:13,736
I don't know how else to put it.

1049
00:47:13,769 --> 00:47:16,472
A damn nightmare. OK?

1050
00:47:16,505 --> 00:47:18,674
It looks like Saturday Night Live,

1051
00:47:18,707 --> 00:47:21,044
but it did not have the living energy because

1052
00:47:21,077 --> 00:47:22,711
it was all on tape.

1053
00:47:22,745 --> 00:47:26,015
There was a lot of, "Okay, wait. We'll do it again."

1054
00:47:26,049 --> 00:47:27,616
Cut it. Those two extras,

1055
00:47:27,649 --> 00:47:29,485
They continue to look into the lens.

1056
00:47:29,518 --> 00:47:30,853
And then everyone will

1057
00:47:30,886 --> 00:47:32,621
stay up all night trying to edit it

1058
00:47:32,654 --> 00:47:34,757
in something that might air on Friday.

1059
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:37,559
And, of course, everything was torn apart.

1060
00:47:37,593 --> 00:47:39,595
And then laughter songs had to be added.

1061
00:47:42,431 --> 00:47:43,766
We are at the exhibition!

1062
00:47:43,799 --> 00:47:45,434
We are in a zoo!

1063
00:47:47,669 --> 00:47:52,674
He was personally at risk of going over budget,

1064
00:47:52,708 --> 00:47:56,612
so he was actually losing his money.

1065
00:47:57,746 --> 00:47:59,648
I've heard millions.

1066
00:47:59,681 --> 00:48:01,784
Maybe.

1067
00:48:03,052 --> 00:48:04,921
I think maybe we were trying

1068
00:48:04,954 --> 00:48:07,756
to reclaim something that, um...

1069
00:48:09,525 --> 00:48:11,660
this happened naturally...

1070
00:48:12,694 --> 00:48:14,596
and we couldn't take it back.

1071
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:17,332
We had a great time, and you were a great audience,

1072
00:48:17,366 --> 00:48:19,568
so good night and drive carefully.

1073
00:48:19,601 --> 00:48:21,436
- Good night. - Good night.

1074
00:48:22,538 --> 00:48:23,940
I was in an editing room, like,

1075
00:48:23,973 --> 00:48:26,608
at 4:00 a.m. with Buck Henry.

1076
00:48:26,642 --> 00:48:28,410
Eh, he said, “But at least you still have

1077
00:48:28,443 --> 00:48:29,913
money coming from SNL."

1078
00:48:29,946 --> 00:48:31,814
And I said, "No, I don't know."

1079
00:48:31,847 --> 00:48:33,082
And he said, "What?"

1080
00:48:33,116 --> 00:48:34,650
I said, "No, I got away clean."

1081
00:48:34,683 --> 00:48:36,561
"I didn't want to have... If my name isn't there,

1082
00:48:36,585 --> 00:48:38,487
I really don't want to be responsible.”

1083
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,956
This is Canadian.

1084
00:48:39,989 --> 00:48:42,125
And he said, "You know, you're... you're an idiot."

1085
00:48:42,158 --> 00:48:43,960
I said, "What do you mean?"

1086
00:48:43,993 --> 00:48:46,461
He said, "You idiot. It was your show,

1087
00:48:46,495 --> 00:48:48,764
and you must participate in it."

1088
00:48:49,531 --> 00:48:53,836
I was leaning too far back to not do SNL.

1089
00:48:54,636 --> 00:48:59,675
The thing that kills most things is overthinking.

1090
00:49:08,851 --> 00:49:12,621
The show begins to take shape on Thursday.

1091
00:49:12,654 --> 00:49:16,993
Wait, wait, wait, wait. This is... this is set 22.

1092
00:49:17,026 --> 00:49:18,660
I am 23.

1093
00:49:18,694 --> 00:49:20,562
These are my backup trays.

1094
00:49:20,596 --> 00:49:22,798
- Spare tray? - Yes.

1095
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,969
Meanwhile, Lorne ventures out

1096
00:49:26,002 --> 00:49:28,972
for a walk-in dinner reservation at 8 p.m.

1097
00:49:29,005 --> 00:49:32,875
Lorni is a creature of habit, but even he has his limits.

1098
00:49:32,909 --> 00:49:34,843
So instead of returning to Lattanzi,

1099
00:49:34,877 --> 00:49:37,981
It stretches across Manhattan.

1100
00:49:42,051 --> 00:49:44,887
Welcome to the worst night of your life.

1101
00:49:44,921 --> 00:49:46,488
Exactly.

1102
00:49:47,389 --> 00:49:48,891
What will you order?

1103
00:49:48,925 --> 00:49:50,726
Oh, I would choose bolognese.

1104
00:49:50,759 --> 00:49:52,996
The same thing you've been ordering for the last 50 years?

1105
00:49:53,029 --> 00:49:54,630
Yes, something like that.

1106
00:49:54,663 --> 00:49:56,574
Congrats, by the way, on all the show stuff.

1107
00:49:56,598 --> 00:49:58,043
- It's phenomenal. - It's unbelievable.

1108
00:49:58,067 --> 00:50:00,502
How many more seasons do you think you will do?

1109
00:50:00,535 --> 00:50:01,981
You know, there's a certain point where you're…

1110
00:50:02,005 --> 00:50:05,074
let's just say... hideously ugly.

1111
00:50:07,210 --> 00:50:08,777
noble failure,

1112
00:50:08,810 --> 00:50:10,980
It's no longer attractive after you've had one.

1113
00:50:11,014 --> 00:50:12,748
After the new show,

1114
00:50:12,781 --> 00:50:17,053
Steve kind of saved me by talking about ¡Tre Amigos!

1115
00:50:26,628 --> 00:50:29,498
Excellent! You killed the invisible swordsman!

1116
00:50:29,531 --> 00:50:33,702
The way it's funny is really hilarious.

1117
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:40,776
It was exciting, and it was what I needed at the time.

1118
00:50:40,809 --> 00:50:42,811
Just to get back to writing.

1119
00:50:45,547 --> 00:50:48,952
We were looking for directors, and we met one, and...

1120
00:50:48,985 --> 00:50:50,954
You know, he was going over our script and he was like,

1121
00:50:50,987 --> 00:50:54,090
You know, like, "The main crop back then wasn't corn.

1122
00:50:54,123 --> 00:50:58,860
The largest production was pepper in that part of Mexico.

1123
00:50:59,795 --> 00:51:02,831
And, Steve, who was always much clearer about things than I was,

1124
00:51:02,864 --> 00:51:05,101
said, "I don't think you understand."

1125
00:51:05,134 --> 00:51:07,136
W-We're making a big, stupid movie."

1126
00:51:08,704 --> 00:51:11,107
And I thought, that's exactly what we were doing,

1127
00:51:11,140 --> 00:51:13,176
but he could have... he had the faith

1128
00:51:13,209 --> 00:51:14,911
to be able to articulate it,

1129
00:51:14,944 --> 00:51:17,914
mother, because we all have an aspiration

1130
00:51:17,947 --> 00:51:20,816
to be taken seriously, to be celebrated

1131
00:51:20,849 --> 00:51:23,852
to our intelligence or perception,

1132
00:51:23,885 --> 00:51:25,821
and there she was... no, she...

1133
00:51:25,854 --> 00:51:28,458
Eh, nothing beats a big, stupid movie.

1134
00:51:29,158 --> 00:51:30,559
Good night, good luck.

1135
00:51:30,592 --> 00:51:31,693
Night, Dusty.

1136
00:51:31,727 --> 00:51:34,629
- Good night, Ned. - Good night, Ned.

1137
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:37,233
Good night, Ned.

1138
00:51:44,007 --> 00:51:48,877
And then, in 1985, SNL hit rock bottom.

1139
00:51:49,511 --> 00:51:53,615
NBC president Brandon Tartikoff knew who to call.

1140
00:51:56,319 --> 00:51:58,287
Cancel the show?

1141
00:51:58,321 --> 00:52:00,123
Unless I come back?

1142
00:52:00,156 --> 00:52:02,158
Well, then there's the matter of:

1143
00:52:02,191 --> 00:52:04,160
"Is it coming back because it failed?"

1144
00:52:04,193 --> 00:52:06,661
Or: "How can he top what he did in the 70s?"

1145
00:52:06,695 --> 00:52:07,940
And then there are always the people

1146
00:52:07,964 --> 00:52:09,564
Who's to say that he...

1147
00:52:09,598 --> 00:52:12,068
Right.

1148
00:52:12,701 --> 00:52:15,171
I wouldn't have much time.

1149
00:52:15,204 --> 00:52:17,106
I had to make a decision.

1150
00:52:17,140 --> 00:52:21,077
A friend said, “You love living in New York.

1151
00:52:21,110 --> 00:52:24,113
It was your show. You know how to do it.

1152
00:52:25,948 --> 00:52:28,985
"And it gives you a base again."

1153
00:52:30,219 --> 00:52:31,954
Amazingly, then I understood

1154
00:52:31,988 --> 00:52:34,190
how important it was to me.

1155
00:52:35,925 --> 00:52:40,163
Something about it was a pairing of my talent and my metabolism.

1156
00:52:40,196 --> 00:52:42,131
I was made for it.

1157
00:52:43,765 --> 00:52:45,301
- Straight from... - New York, it was

1158
00:52:45,334 --> 00:52:47,036
a press conference to introduce

1159
00:52:47,070 --> 00:52:49,738
new Saturday Night Live cast members.

1160
00:52:49,771 --> 00:52:52,175
At the head of the program is Lorne Michaels again,

1161
00:52:52,208 --> 00:52:54,709
the original producer who left the show

1162
00:52:54,743 --> 00:52:57,846
five years ago and told the press how he felt.

1163
00:52:57,879 --> 00:52:59,982
When I left, I wanted to die.

1164
00:53:00,649 --> 00:53:03,052
Season 11 was the worst of the series.

1165
00:53:03,086 --> 00:53:05,854
Instead of hiring comedians as he had done in the past,

1166
00:53:05,887 --> 00:53:07,689
Lorne hired actors...

1167
00:53:07,722 --> 00:53:09,125
and Jon Lovitz.

1168
00:53:09,158 --> 00:53:12,228
Lorne's attempt to reinvent it had failed.

1169
00:53:12,261 --> 00:53:15,364
The problem is, I've never fired anyone

1170
00:53:15,398 --> 00:53:17,366
that whole five... the first five years.

1171
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,104
I think I had learned how to lead on some level,

1172
00:53:21,137 --> 00:53:23,272
but I had never learned how to be a boss.

1173
00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:27,143
I think one of his big transitions was

1174
00:53:27,176 --> 00:53:29,811
when he started wearing a suit and tie.

1175
00:53:29,845 --> 00:53:31,247
billy what are you doing

1176
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,125
I'm setting the room on fire. That's what I'm doing.

1177
00:53:33,149 --> 00:53:35,284
And he said, "They look at me in a certain way

1178
00:53:35,318 --> 00:53:36,818
"like Mr. Michaels.

1179
00:53:36,852 --> 00:53:38,720
I accept it. I'm Mr. Michaels.

1180
00:53:38,753 --> 00:53:41,023
If I set the plaster on fire,

1181
00:53:41,057 --> 00:53:43,359
They won't be able to do the show next year.

1182
00:53:43,392 --> 00:53:45,261
"That's the role I'm going to play."

1183
00:53:45,294 --> 00:53:46,838
what are you doing I have to wave to you.

1184
00:53:46,862 --> 00:53:48,064
Don't ask any questions, Jon.

1185
00:53:48,097 --> 00:53:49,664
Just come down to my limo

1186
00:53:49,698 --> 00:53:50,832
and wait for me there.

1187
00:53:50,866 --> 00:53:53,102
- All right. - Writers. Writers.

1188
00:53:53,136 --> 00:53:54,403
Yes, Mr. Michaels?

1189
00:53:54,437 --> 00:53:55,871
Uh, there's some candy

1190
00:53:55,905 --> 00:53:56,982
and chocolates in the locker room.

1191
00:53:57,006 --> 00:53:58,707
Go in there, help yourself.

1192
00:53:58,740 --> 00:54:00,152
- Oh, thank you, Mr. Michaels. - You did a great job this year.

1193
00:54:00,176 --> 00:54:02,011
You know, when you're in charge,

1194
00:54:02,044 --> 00:54:04,089
people say, "Well, he's a very good friend of yours,"

1195
00:54:04,113 --> 00:54:09,285
and I say, "That's true, mother, but I can cut his piece.

1196
00:54:09,318 --> 00:54:11,354
And what kind of fellow would do that?”

1197
00:54:13,222 --> 00:54:16,159
Michaels remains unmoved.

1198
00:54:16,192 --> 00:54:18,394
He will fire some of the show's writers

1199
00:54:18,427 --> 00:54:20,829
and some of the actors.

1200
00:54:21,631 --> 00:54:24,066
I had become an outsider.

1201
00:54:24,733 --> 00:54:27,937
Which is a much more comfortable position in comedy.

1202
00:54:29,771 --> 00:54:31,706
Now I had something to prove again.

1203
00:54:32,341 --> 00:54:35,311
That it was more about talent than anything else,

1204
00:54:35,344 --> 00:54:37,779
as I believe it was in the 70s.

1205
00:54:39,482 --> 00:54:42,817
Why don't you eat a big bowl of sex?

1206
00:54:45,488 --> 00:54:49,492
Looks like we're going to use the f-word tonight, right?

1207
00:54:49,525 --> 00:54:51,227
Well, this is very special.

1208
00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:53,272
It's the latest development in the world of self-defense:

1209
00:54:53,296 --> 00:54:54,463
Radco stun gun.

1210
00:54:54,497 --> 00:54:55,965
Don't show Mace in anyone's face.

1211
00:54:55,998 --> 00:54:57,799
No need to deal with a Smith and Wesson.

1212
00:54:57,832 --> 00:54:59,844
Why? Because the Stun Gun has three dynamic audio laser frequencies

1213
00:54:59,868 --> 00:55:01,470
to meet any need for personal protection.

1214
00:55:01,504 --> 00:55:03,206
Frequency one is the recoil mode.

1215
00:55:04,273 --> 00:55:06,175
I started going back to:

1216
00:55:06,209 --> 00:55:09,111
"Well, I might as well put on a show I'd like to see."

1217
00:55:09,145 --> 00:55:10,812
I spent all of last summer

1218
00:55:10,845 --> 00:55:12,515
working with the deaf!

1219
00:55:12,548 --> 00:55:16,352
It was a bit like a sitcom for him.

1220
00:55:16,385 --> 00:55:17,819
"Dana can do that part,"

1221
00:55:17,852 --> 00:55:19,488
and Kevin Nealon will be here."

1222
00:55:19,522 --> 00:55:23,960
You needed all these parts, and he made those choices.

1223
00:55:23,993 --> 00:55:25,494
But we were told,

1224
00:55:25,528 --> 00:55:28,097
"You guys should start right away,"

1225
00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:30,266
or they will stop production until Christmas."

1226
00:55:34,237 --> 00:55:36,505
Who will dress you this morning, Sally?

1227
00:55:36,539 --> 00:55:39,508
It wasn't, by chance...

1228
00:55:39,542 --> 00:55:41,210
Satan?

1229
00:55:42,378 --> 00:55:44,247
I remember watching the first episode,

1230
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,856
and I remember my father saying, "I don't know

1231
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,200
- "any of these people." - Mm-hmm.

1232
00:55:48,918 --> 00:55:50,519
Within two or three plays,

1233
00:55:50,553 --> 00:55:53,155
The whole dynamic of the show had changed.

1234
00:55:53,189 --> 00:55:55,558
I have here a copy of the contract.

1235
00:55:55,591 --> 00:55:57,226
The writing began to click.

1236
00:55:57,260 --> 00:55:59,528
I see it is written in blood.

1237
00:55:59,562 --> 00:56:02,164
And she began to feel and look competent.

1238
00:56:02,198 --> 00:56:03,966
If I find more trash in my yard,

1239
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,244
- You'll... - Oh, will you shut up?

1240
00:56:05,268 --> 00:56:06,936
Shut up! Shut up!

1241
00:56:06,969 --> 00:56:08,904
Then, at the end of the season,

1242
00:56:08,938 --> 00:56:10,239
he was, so to speak, everyone's fan.

1243
00:56:10,273 --> 00:56:12,074
I think back then people were, like,

1244
00:56:12,108 --> 00:56:13,885
"Oh, it's just going to keep reinventing itself."

1245
00:56:13,909 --> 00:56:15,244
Toons, watch out!

1246
00:56:20,516 --> 00:56:22,251
I get there in '88.

1247
00:56:22,285 --> 00:56:24,020
I remember having a distinct impression

1248
00:56:24,053 --> 00:56:27,556
that I boarded that train at a good time.

1249
00:56:27,590 --> 00:56:28,890
It was up again.

1250
00:56:28,924 --> 00:56:30,426
- Hey. - Hey, Bob.

1251
00:56:30,459 --> 00:56:31,994
Hey, penis looks great today.

1252
00:56:33,329 --> 00:56:35,064
And then, you know, I would go out,

1253
00:56:35,097 --> 00:56:36,898
Farley would come out.

1254
00:56:37,566 --> 00:56:40,169
Let me in with you, please.

1255
00:56:40,202 --> 00:56:42,471
When you come home, don't make me leave.

1256
00:56:42,505 --> 00:56:45,141
For the love of God,

1257
00:56:45,174 --> 00:56:48,344
Let the boy move in with you!

1258
00:56:48,377 --> 00:56:51,080
Great God!

1259
00:56:51,113 --> 00:56:53,049
23-year-old Chris Rock was asked

1260
00:56:53,082 --> 00:56:55,284
if taking this job means he will be persecuted

1261
00:56:55,318 --> 00:56:57,019
from the ghost of eddie murphy.

1262
00:56:57,053 --> 00:56:58,921
me? Eddie Murphy's Ghost...

1263
00:56:58,954 --> 00:57:00,589
I think Eddie is still alive, right?

1264
00:57:02,024 --> 00:57:04,126
You can call me a diversity hire.

1265
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,895
I think history has proved it

1266
00:57:06,929 --> 00:57:09,465
I'm at least as funny as Rob Schneider.

1267
00:57:12,034 --> 00:57:14,970
Until the early 90s,

1268
00:57:15,004 --> 00:57:17,473
was again at peak viewership.

1269
00:57:17,506 --> 00:57:19,275
People felt comfortable with him again.

1270
00:57:19,308 --> 00:57:22,278
And that group was on fire.

1271
00:57:23,979 --> 00:57:26,482
I had her in the elevator once and I was like,

1272
00:57:26,515 --> 00:57:29,385
"Why…why me and Adam?"

1273
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:34,123
"And Lorne said to me, 'Well,

1274
00:57:34,156 --> 00:57:39,362
"You displayed original thoughts,

1275
00:57:39,395 --> 00:57:43,632
"And whenever I see original thought,

1276
00:57:43,666 --> 00:57:46,435
II... I draw my attention to her."

1277
00:57:46,469 --> 00:57:49,171
You know, there's a story that Lorne always talks about,

1278
00:57:49,205 --> 00:57:51,307
which means, um... he was in...

1279
00:57:51,340 --> 00:57:54,143
somewhere in Europe, and he was...

1280
00:57:54,176 --> 00:57:56,579
driving through the pumpkin fields.

1281
00:57:56,612 --> 00:57:59,915
And he met a boy...

1282
00:57:59,949 --> 00:58:01,384
And you can exit at any time

1283
00:58:01,417 --> 00:58:04,053
and fill your trunk full of pumpkins,

1284
00:58:04,086 --> 00:58:05,321
and no one would see you

1285
00:58:05,354 --> 00:58:07,022
because it was all those little side streets.

1286
00:58:07,056 --> 00:58:10,126
But he came across someone selling pumpkins

1287
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:12,995
in the middle of these vast fields of pumpkins.

1288
00:58:13,028 --> 00:58:14,263
And so Lorne was curious,

1289
00:58:14,296 --> 00:58:16,532
and so he came out and said to the boy,

1290
00:58:16,565 --> 00:58:18,667
"Why should I buy your pumpkins?

1291
00:58:18,701 --> 00:58:20,669
I could have stolen 7,000."

1292
00:58:20,703 --> 00:58:22,371
He says, "What am I paying for?"

1293
00:58:22,405 --> 00:58:25,141
And the guy selling pumpkins says, "You pay for my eye.

1294
00:58:25,174 --> 00:58:27,109
I collect the good pumpkins."

1295
00:58:27,143 --> 00:58:30,045
And that is, in essence, what Lorne does.

1296
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:32,181
He collects the good pumpkins.

1297
00:58:34,116 --> 00:58:36,952
♪ I see a small silhouette of a man ♪

1298
00:58:36,986 --> 00:58:38,621
♪ Scaramouche, Scaramouche ♪

1299
00:58:38,654 --> 00:58:40,423
♪ Will you do the fandango? ♪

1300
00:58:40,456 --> 00:58:44,059
♪ Lightning and thunder, they scare me very, very much ♪

1301
00:58:44,093 --> 00:58:45,361
♪ Galileo... ♪

1302
00:58:45,394 --> 00:58:47,163
Movie studios are very good

1303
00:58:47,196 --> 00:58:48,564
in killing the new comedy,

1304
00:58:48,597 --> 00:58:52,201
and, mother, Lorne was very good at defending

1305
00:58:52,234 --> 00:58:55,571
where it was fresh and... and exciting.

1306
00:58:55,604 --> 00:58:57,173
I realized how coincidentally.

1307
00:58:57,206 --> 00:58:59,708
Lorne was intensely involved throughout.

1308
00:58:59,742 --> 00:59:01,410
There is a plot in Wayne's World

1309
00:59:01,444 --> 00:59:04,346
where Garth is making a mechanical hand.

1310
00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:06,449
- Eh. - The subtext was

1311
00:59:06,482 --> 00:59:10,219
the hand would kill Rob Lowe.

1312
00:59:10,252 --> 00:59:12,588
So it was really on the bubble, "Should we cut this off?"

1313
00:59:12,621 --> 00:59:15,357
you know And I more or less understood. It was so...

1314
00:59:15,391 --> 00:59:18,060
And Lorne said, "Uh, it's that kind of thing,

1315
00:59:18,093 --> 00:59:21,397
"Like, you know, in 20 years, you're going to see it on television,

1316
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:24,200
and you're, like, so glad it's there."

1317
00:59:24,233 --> 00:59:26,368
And he is not wrong.

1318
00:59:28,704 --> 00:59:30,105
Is my ex squeezing me?

1319
00:59:30,139 --> 00:59:31,440
Baking powder?

1320
00:59:31,474 --> 00:59:32,575
Hello, Wayne.

1321
00:59:32,608 --> 00:59:35,010
Greetings.

1322
00:59:36,779 --> 00:59:38,214
hey are you ok

1323
00:59:38,247 --> 00:59:40,349
"Wayne's World" was a huge success,

1324
00:59:40,382 --> 00:59:42,218
a great and idiotic movie for the ages.

1325
00:59:42,251 --> 00:59:43,752
And she's okay!

1326
00:59:43,786 --> 00:59:47,490
And one of only two posters in Lorne's office.

1327
00:59:47,523 --> 00:59:49,225
"Wayne's World" is the most important movie

1328
00:59:49,258 --> 00:59:50,526
to ever make it to Hollywood.

1329
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:51,760
Emergency. Oscillation.

1330
00:59:51,794 --> 00:59:54,530
After that, I thought to myself,

1331
00:59:54,563 --> 00:59:56,499
"Okay, what is…"

1332
00:59:56,532 --> 01:00:00,035
What is the secret of Wayne's World? Why..."

1333
01:00:01,070 --> 01:00:05,274
My comedies are generally not harsh.

1334
01:00:05,307 --> 01:00:07,776
There is no film in this camera.

1335
01:00:07,810 --> 01:00:11,514
With Wayne's World, I would compare it to

1336
01:00:11,547 --> 01:00:13,215
a Snickers.

1337
01:00:13,249 --> 01:00:16,051
I know, because...

1338
01:00:16,085 --> 01:00:17,686
I don't want a Snickers every day,

1339
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,489
i know, but if... if your flight is delayed

1340
01:00:20,523 --> 01:00:22,391
and if you go to the car, you can...

1341
01:00:22,424 --> 01:00:24,059
surely you can...

1342
01:00:24,093 --> 01:00:26,762
If you have to wait four hours, you will definitely get it.

1343
01:00:26,795 --> 01:00:28,430
Ah...

1344
01:00:28,464 --> 01:00:30,699
It's milk chocolate. It's not dark chocolate.

1345
01:00:30,733 --> 01:00:32,234
There are peanuts.

1346
01:00:32,268 --> 01:00:34,603
It has caramel.

1347
01:00:34,637 --> 01:00:36,405
There is nougat.

1348
01:00:37,606 --> 01:00:39,375
Son of a...

1349
01:00:39,408 --> 01:00:41,710
And they call it dessert.

1350
01:00:41,744 --> 01:00:45,681
And many of these kinds of things are sweets.

1351
01:00:45,714 --> 01:00:48,150
It could be wrong nutrition,

1352
01:00:48,183 --> 01:00:51,720
but it's a very American thing.

1353
01:00:51,754 --> 01:00:53,622
You know, Americans...

1354
01:00:53,656 --> 01:00:56,559
In my opinion, they invented entertainment.

1355
01:00:58,761 --> 01:01:01,096
Did you eat too many pieces of ink as a child?

1356
01:01:02,565 --> 01:01:03,599
Why?

1357
01:01:03,632 --> 01:01:05,634
As I said, people, when they try to decide

1358
01:01:05,668 --> 01:01:08,470
where to go, say, "That looks fun."

1359
01:01:08,504 --> 01:01:11,206
And I don't think the Germans say that.

1360
01:01:12,008 --> 01:01:13,709
Mel Brooks once defined comedy as...

1361
01:01:13,742 --> 01:01:15,344
as "polite hostility".

1362
01:01:15,377 --> 01:01:17,513
Once you lose that, once you limit yourself to saying,

1363
01:01:17,546 --> 01:01:20,215
"Well, that's not funny," or, "That can't be funny,"

1364
01:01:20,249 --> 01:01:22,551
or, "You can't joke with that,"

1365
01:01:22,585 --> 01:01:24,587
then you have limited yourself to the topic

1366
01:01:24,620 --> 01:01:27,523
where are you, mother, ineffective as a comedian.

1367
01:01:27,556 --> 01:01:29,668
You must have great courage in your convictions to be able to

1368
01:01:29,692 --> 01:01:32,428
to go along with that line of thinking and do it and not

1369
01:01:32,461 --> 01:01:34,863
- I worry a lot about this. - Well, if it is, if it is funny,

1370
01:01:34,897 --> 01:01:36,332
that's all that really matters.

1371
01:01:36,365 --> 01:01:37,842
That's all we really care about.

1372
01:01:37,866 --> 01:01:39,244
Yeah, but how... how do you decide it's funny?

1373
01:01:39,268 --> 01:01:40,636
Funny, maybe, for you,

1374
01:01:40,669 --> 01:01:42,380
but how do you know it's funny to the audience?

1375
01:01:42,404 --> 01:01:44,340
Well, that's what a live audience tells you.

1376
01:01:49,445 --> 01:01:51,146
Okay, wait.

1377
01:01:51,180 --> 01:01:52,681
We're ready, Lorne.

1378
01:01:52,715 --> 01:01:54,550
Yes. Wait, Emma.

1379
01:01:57,954 --> 01:01:59,755
I had dinner a few weeks ago,

1380
01:01:59,788 --> 01:02:03,325
and - and someone was talking about his favorite sketches,

1381
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:05,494
one of which was, um, "Stunt Baby."

1382
01:02:05,527 --> 01:02:09,131
Shut up! Shut up!

1383
01:02:09,798 --> 01:02:11,333
Wait, wait, wait! Good, good.

1384
01:02:11,367 --> 01:02:13,369
Okay, bring the stunt baby, okay?

1385
01:02:15,471 --> 01:02:16,940
It's just a kid making a scene.

1386
01:02:19,541 --> 01:02:24,179
You can do it because no one said we can't.

1387
01:02:24,213 --> 01:02:26,448
What is funny? What is provocative?

1388
01:02:26,482 --> 01:02:29,418
And what is simply unacceptable?

1389
01:02:29,451 --> 01:02:32,354
Lorne loves controversy.

1390
01:02:32,388 --> 01:02:34,456
I don't know if I can say that some of the people

1391
01:02:34,490 --> 01:02:37,927
He said we were like...

1392
01:02:37,961 --> 01:02:39,361
"What?"

1393
01:02:39,395 --> 01:02:40,964
"What about Michael Vick?"

1394
01:02:40,997 --> 01:02:42,331
We say, "No."

1395
01:02:42,364 --> 01:02:43,799
He says, "Yeah, Paula was crazy."

1396
01:02:43,832 --> 01:02:45,367
"She came here and had articles

1397
01:02:45,401 --> 01:02:46,735
for what he did to the dogs."

1398
01:02:46,769 --> 01:02:50,940
That thing with Sinéad O'Connor was interesting to me.

1399
01:02:50,974 --> 01:02:52,841
Fight the real enemy.

1400
01:02:53,542 --> 01:02:57,312
No one remembers that there was a sketch behind it.

1401
01:02:57,346 --> 01:02:59,648
♪ Sweet Jimmy ♪

1402
01:02:59,682 --> 01:03:02,418
♪ He's the best tutor in the world ♪

1403
01:03:02,451 --> 01:03:03,819
♪ Sweet Jimmy. ♪

1404
01:03:03,852 --> 01:03:05,788
The world condemned this girl

1405
01:03:05,821 --> 01:03:08,557
because what she was saying about the Catholic Church...

1406
01:03:09,458 --> 01:03:11,827
and she was right.

1407
01:03:11,860 --> 01:03:13,295
It's a time capsule.

1408
01:03:13,328 --> 01:03:15,297
Like, that's what's going on, you know?

1409
01:03:15,330 --> 01:03:16,966
We have a great show.

1410
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,834
Rage Against the Machine is here.

1411
01:03:18,867 --> 01:03:21,437
That's what makes the show exciting for me,

1412
01:03:21,470 --> 01:03:23,672
that kind of tension of, "Who's going to be on the show?"

1413
01:03:23,706 --> 01:03:26,709
I actually worked here. I was fired from here...

1414
01:03:26,742 --> 01:03:28,844
a few years ago, and if you don't know this,

1415
01:03:28,877 --> 01:03:31,447
don't worry about it.

1416
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,882
Please don't ask for that, really.

1417
01:03:33,917 --> 01:03:35,584
The speed of

1418
01:03:35,617 --> 01:03:38,454
What happened to Shane is so shocking

1419
01:03:38,487 --> 01:03:41,024
because it was immediate.

1420
01:03:41,057 --> 01:03:43,592
The network went into panic mode.

1421
01:03:43,625 --> 01:03:46,462
"They're going to boycott us. You should report this."

1422
01:03:46,495 --> 01:03:49,598
It was just the culmination of everything that...

1423
01:03:49,631 --> 01:03:51,734
- Yes. - Zero tolerance thing...

1424
01:03:51,767 --> 01:03:54,903
And so what made you decide to bring him back as a host?

1425
01:03:54,938 --> 01:03:56,839
He is the number one comedian in the country.

1426
01:03:56,872 --> 01:03:58,474
- Really? - Yes.

1427
01:03:58,507 --> 01:04:00,452
He always wants to have a fair and balanced show.

1428
01:04:00,476 --> 01:04:01,853
I remember arguing with him

1429
01:04:01,877 --> 01:04:04,646
if he would punish Nixon.

1430
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,614
Jewish boy!

1431
01:04:05,647 --> 01:04:07,416
He said, "Yeah, I'd book Dick."

1432
01:04:07,449 --> 01:04:08,684
Would you punish Nixon?!

1433
01:04:08,717 --> 01:04:10,753
how are you

1434
01:04:10,786 --> 01:04:14,289
I'm worried about crowds being thoughtless

1435
01:04:14,323 --> 01:04:15,724
cheering this violence.

1436
01:04:15,758 --> 01:04:18,594
Nazi brown shirts were everywhere in Germany.

1437
01:04:18,627 --> 01:04:22,297
Well, when we jumped on Hitler here, you know?

1438
01:04:22,331 --> 01:04:24,867
It is still the most important comedy show on television.

1439
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:26,368
And I know only because

1440
01:04:26,401 --> 01:04:28,670
They get really mad at us when we book Trump.

1441
01:04:30,907 --> 01:04:33,042
And I understand, and I understand... and I'm glad that...

1442
01:04:33,076 --> 01:04:34,643
that it is important to people.

1443
01:04:34,676 --> 01:04:36,454
I'm glad it makes people feel a certain way.

1444
01:04:36,478 --> 01:04:39,082
When people care, it means it's still important

1445
01:04:39,115 --> 01:04:40,716
and it is still important.

1446
01:04:43,352 --> 01:04:45,054
Sometimes, with distance,

1447
01:04:45,088 --> 01:04:48,791
You say, "Oh, God, I wish we hadn't done this or that."

1448
01:04:50,659 --> 01:04:53,862
Uh, but when it comes to things like Stunt Baby...

1449
01:04:55,999 --> 01:04:57,900
It was hard to laugh,

1450
01:04:57,934 --> 01:05:01,770
and loud laughter generally means you are breaking some taboo.

1451
01:05:02,404 --> 01:05:05,074
I see you get a lot of abuse from the other scouts.

1452
01:05:05,108 --> 01:05:06,910
It goes with the territory, Mr. Armstrong.

1453
01:05:06,943 --> 01:05:09,478
Sticks and stones.

1454
01:05:10,712 --> 01:05:12,447
Ataboy.

1455
01:05:14,716 --> 01:05:16,819
It has been a year of ups and downs

1456
01:05:16,852 --> 01:05:18,620
about the man who created Saturday Night Live.

1457
01:05:18,654 --> 01:05:21,057
Saturday Night Live problems.

1458
01:05:21,090 --> 01:05:22,524
Oops.

1459
01:05:22,558 --> 01:05:23,960
My shirt fell off.

1460
01:05:23,993 --> 01:05:25,394
It has been called "vulgar".

1461
01:05:25,427 --> 01:05:27,130
- Do you like pepper? - Yes.

1462
01:05:27,163 --> 01:05:28,564
This year, "not funny."

1463
01:05:28,597 --> 01:05:29,832
- "Not funny." - The press is inside

1464
01:05:29,865 --> 01:05:31,633
A rage to feed on this thing, isn't it?

1465
01:05:31,667 --> 01:05:33,378
- Yes, it's true. Yes. - What's wrong with the show?

1466
01:05:33,402 --> 01:05:36,805
I guess it doesn't work like it did in the past...

1467
01:05:36,839 --> 01:05:40,843
Saturday Night Dead is a title I've been reading since 1976.

1468
01:05:40,876 --> 01:05:43,412
Leave me alone, I'm starving!

1469
01:05:43,445 --> 01:05:46,515
The 1995 season, the press was beating us

1470
01:05:46,548 --> 01:05:48,884
because they were mainly from the "baby boom" generation,

1471
01:05:48,918 --> 01:05:52,989
and we weren't like the show they grew up with.

1472
01:05:53,022 --> 01:05:55,124
You know that show "Saturday Night Live"?

1473
01:05:55,158 --> 01:05:57,426
- Uh, it got a lot worse. - Oh, yes.

1474
01:05:57,459 --> 01:05:58,727
Comedy had changed.

1475
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,797
It was a different sensibility.

1476
01:06:01,830 --> 01:06:03,498
Fresh - one pepper.

1477
01:06:03,532 --> 01:06:05,901
The idea that this cast

1478
01:06:05,935 --> 01:06:10,606
were playing with their children was a big difference.

1479
01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:12,750
Lorne, Jason is right. The show has gone really bad.

1480
01:06:12,774 --> 01:06:14,177
- I... I don't... - Chris, get out.

1481
01:06:14,210 --> 01:06:15,844
Yes, sir.

1482
01:06:15,878 --> 01:06:18,147
It's one thing when the press follows you.

1483
01:06:18,181 --> 01:06:19,657
The tone I get from some articles

1484
01:06:19,681 --> 01:06:21,126
and the interview you gave recently

1485
01:06:21,150 --> 01:06:24,153
is that it hurt maybe more that you had a perception

1486
01:06:24,187 --> 01:06:27,522
that the network executives did not protect you enough.

1487
01:06:27,556 --> 01:06:28,968
- You think... Let me alone... - Well, I, uh...

1488
01:06:28,992 --> 01:06:30,126
- You said... - Yes.

1489
01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:31,170
"It was a very conscious decision"

1490
01:06:31,194 --> 01:06:32,594
"to bypass support for me.

1491
01:06:32,628 --> 01:06:34,030
To me, that's irritating."

1492
01:06:34,063 --> 01:06:37,000
How many people tried to take that crown from him?

1493
01:06:37,033 --> 01:06:39,168
How many people tried to bring down SNL?

1494
01:06:39,202 --> 01:06:40,769
and I would have enjoyed it... did you like it a lot?

1495
01:06:40,802 --> 01:06:41,703
Executives.

1496
01:06:41,737 --> 01:06:46,608
Whatever happened in 1995 had a big effect.

1497
01:06:49,578 --> 01:06:51,513
The year '95 is a rift.

1498
01:06:51,546 --> 01:06:55,184
And a new boss, Don Ohlmeyer.

1499
01:06:55,218 --> 01:06:56,685
Ohlmeyer was just

1500
01:06:56,718 --> 01:06:59,188
kind of a bully, kind of a thug, you know?

1501
01:06:59,222 --> 01:07:01,556
And Lorne is simply not equipped

1502
01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:03,625
to deal with such people.

1503
01:07:06,162 --> 01:07:07,663
The show is dead.

1504
01:07:07,696 --> 01:07:09,765
Ratings are falling.

1505
01:07:13,869 --> 01:07:17,606
If you really like the show, we should fix this.

1506
01:07:21,843 --> 01:07:23,179
Bro, isn't this zoo the best, bro?

1507
01:07:23,212 --> 01:07:24,613
I know. I can't believe it was...

1508
01:07:24,646 --> 01:07:25,958
how easy it was to enter the zoo.

1509
01:07:25,982 --> 01:07:26,983
We just jumped the fence.

1510
01:07:27,016 --> 01:07:28,884
Dude, look at this polar bear cage.

1511
01:07:28,918 --> 01:07:31,154
Hey, you think I can swim in the little gap on either side

1512
01:07:31,187 --> 01:07:32,621
before the bear eats me?

1513
01:07:32,654 --> 01:07:34,523
Don once bragged to me that he cut off his head.

1514
01:07:34,556 --> 01:07:36,525
Lorne's Popcorn Budget.

1515
01:07:36,558 --> 01:07:37,702
This is the death of any show,

1516
01:07:37,726 --> 01:07:39,561
it's when they cut the popcorn budget.

1517
01:07:40,930 --> 01:07:42,664
You also get into this mess where

1518
01:07:42,698 --> 01:07:45,068
Don doesn't think Adam Sandler is funny.

1519
01:07:45,101 --> 01:07:46,568
Wow!

1520
01:07:47,836 --> 01:07:49,238
I know he didn't love me.

1521
01:07:49,272 --> 01:07:51,107
I know he didn't like Farley.

1522
01:07:51,140 --> 01:07:53,875
Lorne was always the captain,

1523
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:56,845
and then, quite suddenly, the captain had to listen

1524
01:07:56,878 --> 01:08:00,049
someone else's opinion is a little too much.

1525
01:08:00,083 --> 01:08:03,518
Oh God! Oh God!

1526
01:08:03,552 --> 01:08:05,554
Sandler, fired.

1527
01:08:05,587 --> 01:08:07,856
Farewell.

1528
01:08:09,591 --> 01:08:10,994
Farley...

1529
01:08:14,629 --> 01:08:16,165
fired from work.

1530
01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:19,601
Most of the actors and writers were fired.

1531
01:08:19,634 --> 01:08:21,104
Or politely asked to leave.

1532
01:08:23,206 --> 01:08:26,175
Those who remained were walking on eggshells.

1533
01:08:26,209 --> 01:08:28,011
Except for a comedian

1534
01:08:28,044 --> 01:08:31,813
who refused to stop mocking Ohlmeyer's best friend.

1535
01:08:33,149 --> 01:08:37,020
In his book, OJ Simpson says he would have

1536
01:08:37,053 --> 01:08:40,789
took a bullet or stood in front of a train for Nicole.

1537
01:08:40,822 --> 01:08:43,026
Bro, I'll tell you, that's bad luck.

1538
01:08:43,059 --> 01:08:46,162
when that boy who would have died for you kills you.

1539
01:08:46,195 --> 01:08:48,663
This is probably...

1540
01:08:48,697 --> 01:08:50,632
Gotta love Norm and Lorne

1541
01:08:50,665 --> 01:08:52,201
just to keep doing it.

1542
01:08:52,235 --> 01:08:56,039
I mean, you're... you're literally asking for it.

1543
01:08:56,072 --> 01:08:58,640
It's the perfect plan.

1544
01:09:06,015 --> 01:09:09,352
I got a call that Chris Farley had passed away.

1545
01:09:16,259 --> 01:09:18,660
My, uh... F-Farley...

1546
01:09:18,693 --> 01:09:21,730
Farley's funeral, and Lorne was there.

1547
01:09:24,167 --> 01:09:27,669
He was crying. I think it made us all cry.

1548
01:09:30,907 --> 01:09:32,874
I was assigned

1549
01:09:32,909 --> 01:09:37,013
to have dinner with Don Ohlmeyer that night,

1550
01:09:37,046 --> 01:09:39,348
and that was the night he told me

1551
01:09:39,382 --> 01:09:43,119
that he wanted Norm to leave.

1552
01:09:44,921 --> 01:09:47,023
Ohlmeyer got what he wanted.

1553
01:09:47,856 --> 01:09:50,193
Everyone was fired. They... Every...

1554
01:09:50,226 --> 01:09:51,994
He was the greatest...

1555
01:09:52,028 --> 01:09:54,763
There has never been anything like it before or since.

1556
01:09:56,665 --> 01:10:00,702
When I was hired, Lorne, by her

1557
01:10:00,735 --> 01:10:03,738
first date, i said...

1558
01:10:03,772 --> 01:10:05,908
"The show has fallen many times,

1559
01:10:05,942 --> 01:10:07,376
"It has been raised many times,

1560
01:10:07,410 --> 01:10:10,246
and we'll see if he can do it again."

1561
01:10:10,279 --> 01:10:11,780
We had nothing to lose.

1562
01:10:11,813 --> 01:10:13,158
Yeah, who wants... does anyone want a hot dog?

1563
01:10:13,182 --> 01:10:14,883
Oh, you don't eat pork, do you? Yes.

1564
01:10:14,917 --> 01:10:16,852
No, it's okay. It's okay. It is...

1565
01:10:16,885 --> 01:10:18,387
Golf is a funny game, isn't it?

1566
01:10:18,421 --> 01:10:19,688
Yes.

1567
01:10:19,721 --> 01:10:21,324
It's hard, it's expensive,

1568
01:10:21,357 --> 01:10:22,858
and yet we keep playing it, don't we?

1569
01:10:22,891 --> 01:10:24,403
What's going on with this? It's a bit funny.

1570
01:10:24,427 --> 01:10:27,063
Get out of the damn barn!

1571
01:10:27,096 --> 01:10:28,697
Get out of the barn!

1572
01:10:28,730 --> 01:10:30,665
Get out of the damn barn!

1573
01:10:31,300 --> 01:10:33,136
It just got better and better.

1574
01:10:33,169 --> 01:10:35,670
And then we got new people, and they were great.

1575
01:10:35,704 --> 01:10:37,806
This is the biggest dog I have ever seen.

1576
01:10:37,839 --> 01:10:40,009
There were so many killers.

1577
01:10:40,042 --> 01:10:41,911
Like, great, great, great.

1578
01:10:41,944 --> 01:10:44,746
Now they are the real kingdom of comedy.

1579
01:10:44,779 --> 01:10:48,683
Mom jeans fit mom just the way she likes them.

1580
01:10:48,717 --> 01:10:50,752
You say, "Oh great God."

1581
01:10:50,785 --> 01:10:53,256
How is he finding these people?”

1582
01:10:53,289 --> 01:10:56,225
How many funny people are there in America?

1583
01:10:56,259 --> 01:10:57,859
You know, 300?

1584
01:10:57,893 --> 01:10:59,962
I'll take the "rapists" for $200.

1585
01:10:59,996 --> 01:11:02,231
These are "therapists".

1586
01:11:04,066 --> 01:11:06,369
What I notice with it is that most people

1587
01:11:06,402 --> 01:11:09,038
that we bring, they - they speak our language.

1588
01:11:09,071 --> 01:11:10,973
- Someone call Tom Ha... Ooh! - Oh!

1589
01:11:11,007 --> 01:11:12,375
That's all

1590
01:11:12,408 --> 01:11:14,343
that's what makes Saturday Night Live great.

1591
01:11:14,377 --> 01:11:16,412
If he was still doing sketches

1592
01:11:16,445 --> 01:11:18,214
with the same cast of actors from the 70s,

1593
01:11:18,247 --> 01:11:19,448
wouldn't be around.

1594
01:11:19,482 --> 01:11:20,917
You have to evolve and change,

1595
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:23,019
and you have to let the show grow.

1596
01:11:23,052 --> 01:11:24,987
Gilly...

1597
01:11:25,021 --> 01:11:28,224
Did he stick three pencils in Sindi's body?

1598
01:11:28,257 --> 01:11:29,791
I'm sorry.

1599
01:11:29,824 --> 01:11:31,093
When it's Kristen Wiig

1600
01:11:31,127 --> 01:11:32,861
and that whole crowd, it's like...

1601
01:11:32,894 --> 01:11:34,330
it is beyond joy.

1602
01:11:34,363 --> 01:11:37,066
It started to feel like, “Oh, this—this show is a fact.

1603
01:11:37,099 --> 01:11:38,067
It just is."

1604
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:42,305
Devin? What are you doing here?

1605
01:11:42,338 --> 01:11:46,275
Lorne is the ultimate show business survivor.

1606
01:11:46,309 --> 01:11:51,780
He is still here, and 175 leaders are not.

1607
01:11:54,883 --> 01:11:56,419
New people come every year.

1608
01:11:56,452 --> 01:11:57,752
People leave.

1609
01:11:57,786 --> 01:11:58,887
This is ridiculous.

1610
01:11:58,921 --> 01:12:01,123
But I am the one who stands.

1611
01:12:05,528 --> 01:12:07,363
So...

1612
01:12:07,396 --> 01:12:09,398
Are you going to retire?

1613
01:12:09,432 --> 01:12:10,765
- Here's what I think. - No.

1614
01:12:10,799 --> 01:12:12,077
- You are not. You are not. - No. No.

1615
01:12:12,101 --> 01:12:15,837
My fear is that it is from another time...

1616
01:12:15,870 --> 01:12:17,772
- Yes, exactly. - And I... Yes.

1617
01:12:17,806 --> 01:12:19,375
And I'm kind of her protector,

1618
01:12:19,408 --> 01:12:21,510
and as long as I am there, they will not attack me.

1619
01:12:21,544 --> 01:12:23,812
- Yes. - But the moment

1620
01:12:23,845 --> 01:12:26,048
- I'm not there, I think... - Yes.

1621
01:12:26,082 --> 01:12:30,152
It was done in such a wasteful way that it was

1622
01:12:30,186 --> 01:12:32,255
- From the beginning, you know? - Yes.

1623
01:12:32,288 --> 01:12:33,956
And here's what they do.

1624
01:12:34,557 --> 01:12:36,225
Hey.

1625
01:12:36,891 --> 01:12:39,228
This was mine. I ordered it.

1626
01:12:43,832 --> 01:12:45,401
The show is only in production

1627
01:12:45,434 --> 01:12:46,901
for several weeks at a time.

1628
01:12:46,936 --> 01:12:49,005
During the holidays, Lorne retires

1629
01:12:49,038 --> 01:12:51,340
to his home in Maine to recharge.

1630
01:12:51,374 --> 01:12:54,277
Well, I guess Maine is all... it's- it's no girls allowed.

1631
01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:56,078
I think they are all boys.

1632
01:12:56,112 --> 01:12:57,546
So says Fred.

1633
01:12:57,580 --> 01:12:59,491
I don't think he likes anyone talking about Maine.

1634
01:12:59,515 --> 01:13:01,417
Fred has been there. Yes.

1635
01:13:01,450 --> 01:13:03,885
He has, so to speak, a blueberry farm.

1636
01:13:03,919 --> 01:13:05,820
And that he just lives in a geodesic dome

1637
01:13:05,854 --> 01:13:07,290
at its center,

1638
01:13:07,323 --> 01:13:09,592
and has a little blueberry paste around the mouth.

1639
01:13:09,625 --> 01:13:11,836
- He has excellent blueberries. - He has excellent blueberries.

1640
01:13:11,860 --> 01:13:13,296
I know about blueberry jam.

1641
01:13:13,329 --> 01:13:17,033
Sometimes for Christmas, he gives us, mother, jam.

1642
01:13:17,066 --> 01:13:19,001
You get three jars.

1643
01:13:19,635 --> 01:13:22,571
I'm afraid that if Lorne ever invited me,

1644
01:13:22,605 --> 01:13:25,274
that he would shoot me.

1645
01:13:25,308 --> 01:13:27,443
That we would have a meal and then he would say,

1646
01:13:27,476 --> 01:13:31,013
"You know, Conan, the most dangerous game is man,"

1647
01:13:31,047 --> 01:13:32,348
and he would take a rifle,

1648
01:13:32,381 --> 01:13:34,450
and he would say, "You have 45 minutes."

1649
01:13:34,483 --> 01:13:37,286
And then I would run through the woods

1650
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,188
and, mother...

1651
01:13:42,625 --> 01:13:44,460
Lornie wouldn't be standing.

1652
01:13:44,493 --> 01:13:46,295
It would be carried by apprentices,

1653
01:13:46,329 --> 01:13:48,531
Uh, through the woods with a shotgun.

1654
01:13:48,564 --> 01:13:50,066
"Catch him!" And then I will...

1655
01:13:50,099 --> 01:13:51,600
at one point, I thought I had run away,

1656
01:13:51,634 --> 01:13:54,236
but i would find the skeleton of, uh...

1657
01:13:54,270 --> 01:13:57,206
of someone I thought was still alive.

1658
01:13:57,239 --> 01:13:59,108
You know, a cast member who disappeared.

1659
01:13:59,141 --> 01:14:01,610
"Oh my God, it's… it's a mummified Dennis Miller."

1660
01:14:01,644 --> 01:14:03,612
And he was shot. He is there.

1661
01:14:03,646 --> 01:14:05,548
A...

1662
01:14:05,581 --> 01:14:07,283
yes, i mean, it is possible.

1663
01:14:07,316 --> 01:14:10,486
It is possible that he hunts people at the blueberry farm.

1664
01:14:20,696 --> 01:14:22,665
Why Maine?

1665
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,469
It is restorative.

1666
01:14:28,237 --> 01:14:32,208
I think New York is the stimulation capital of America.

1667
01:14:32,808 --> 01:14:34,577
Up here, there is no ambient light

1668
01:14:34,610 --> 01:14:38,047
or no ambient noise, so...

1669
01:14:40,216 --> 01:14:42,151
Did you plant daffodils?

1670
01:14:42,184 --> 01:14:43,419
Yes.

1671
01:14:44,420 --> 01:14:46,455
These are gray birches.

1672
01:14:46,489 --> 01:14:48,991
This is arborvitae.

1673
01:14:49,024 --> 01:14:52,027
Make a tea with it, and it stops scurvy.

1674
01:14:54,230 --> 01:14:56,165
There are many wild animals.

1675
01:14:58,167 --> 01:15:00,636
Beaver dams and deer. Yes.

1676
01:15:00,669 --> 01:15:02,338
And the bears.

1677
01:15:02,371 --> 01:15:03,439
Oh, look?

1678
01:15:03,472 --> 01:15:05,374
Baby.

1679
01:15:06,008 --> 01:15:08,444
This is a goat.

1680
01:15:10,413 --> 01:15:13,015
I wanted animals

1681
01:15:13,048 --> 01:15:15,284
but not the ones I would have to kill.

1682
01:15:22,558 --> 01:15:25,528
It makes me so happy to be here.

1683
01:15:29,432 --> 01:15:31,567
It occurred to me that as you get older,

1684
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,272
You want the landscape of your childhood.

1685
01:15:40,643 --> 01:15:46,182
I think it was a happy childhood interrupted by a tragic loss.

1686
01:15:47,483 --> 01:15:51,053
His father, Lefty Lipowitz,

1687
01:15:51,086 --> 01:15:53,489
He was a gambler, he was a gambler.

1688
01:15:54,156 --> 01:15:57,726
And he called Lorne and Mark his little gangsters.

1689
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,596
He and his father had a...

1690
01:16:00,629 --> 01:16:02,731
an argument about something.

1691
01:16:02,765 --> 01:16:06,135
And it wasn't much of an argument because he liked his father.

1692
01:16:06,168 --> 01:16:09,605
And Lorne left, and his father

1693
01:16:09,638 --> 01:16:13,209
He had a heart attack and was taken to the hospital.

1694
01:16:13,242 --> 01:16:15,544
and Lorne never got to see him again.

1695
01:16:17,780 --> 01:16:21,584
With his brother Mark, they went to Beth Sholom.

1696
01:16:21,617 --> 01:16:23,118
every day to say...

1697
01:16:23,152 --> 01:16:25,521
You know, the mourner's prayer, the kaddish.

1698
01:16:27,056 --> 01:16:29,525
He did this for a whole year.

1699
01:16:30,693 --> 01:16:32,194
It's like, in that void of grief,

1700
01:16:32,228 --> 01:16:34,697
very strong discipline

1701
01:16:34,730 --> 01:16:38,367
and some... determination or something was brewing in there.

1702
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,070
It must be hard to lose your father at that age.

1703
01:16:41,103 --> 01:16:43,272
He was just... How old was he, 13?

1704
01:16:43,305 --> 01:16:46,075
- 14. - Yes, very difficult.

1705
01:16:49,278 --> 01:16:52,214
We met at Camp Timberlane.

1706
01:16:52,248 --> 01:16:54,717
Which was located in a lake.

1707
01:16:54,750 --> 01:16:57,786
And we were doing shows on Saturday nights.

1708
01:16:57,820 --> 01:17:02,191
Lorne would direct and sometimes act in the show.

1709
01:17:05,427 --> 01:17:09,198
This camp had a high diving board.

1710
01:17:10,099 --> 01:17:13,669
And Lorne would get up there and lay on the board

1711
01:17:13,702 --> 01:17:15,271
so you couldn't see it.

1712
01:17:15,304 --> 01:17:17,573
And everyone would be looking for Lorne.

1713
01:17:17,606 --> 01:17:19,141
"Where's Lornie?"

1714
01:17:19,174 --> 01:17:21,210
And he was always up on that diving board.

1715
01:17:23,712 --> 01:17:27,449
He would just observe everything that was happening.

1716
01:17:30,185 --> 01:17:31,654
I think the older you get,

1717
01:17:31,687 --> 01:17:34,123
the more you think about your childhood.

1718
01:17:35,558 --> 01:17:38,193
You see some things a little more clearly.

1719
01:17:40,329 --> 01:17:41,740
Perhaps the cause of my father's death,

1720
01:17:41,764 --> 01:17:44,833
I've never closed any doors on SNL.

1721
01:17:44,867 --> 01:17:47,403
It will be music, and it will be comedy,

1722
01:17:47,436 --> 01:17:49,438
and it will be politics.

1723
01:17:49,471 --> 01:17:54,710
Which seemed crazy in 1975

1724
01:17:54,743 --> 01:17:59,582
it turned out to be something that stayed alive.

1725
01:18:03,452 --> 01:18:06,855
But the older you get, the more you realize it's coming.

1726
01:18:06,889 --> 01:18:08,591
Is this what's coming?

1727
01:18:08,624 --> 01:18:10,459
- Change. - Yes.

1728
01:18:10,492 --> 01:18:13,429
- Yes. Yes. - That it is always on the way.

1729
01:18:13,462 --> 01:18:14,462
Yes.

1730
01:18:19,902 --> 01:18:21,570
Still, huh?

1731
01:18:27,710 --> 01:18:29,678
A few years ago, it was...

1732
01:18:29,712 --> 01:18:31,547
it was, so to speak, the most amazing thing.

1733
01:18:31,580 --> 01:18:33,749
I walked out of my building on the Upper West Side,

1734
01:18:33,782 --> 01:18:35,217
and Lorne was there.

1735
01:18:35,784 --> 01:18:37,586
It was like something out of a movie,

1736
01:18:37,620 --> 01:18:39,154
for he said, "Let us walk."

1737
01:18:39,188 --> 01:18:40,432
So what's up with the outfit, Lemon?

1738
01:18:40,456 --> 01:18:41,499
Did people appear from that change of appearance?

1739
01:18:41,523 --> 01:18:42,701
I finally answer your letter?

1740
01:18:42,725 --> 01:18:43,892
And he was in this area

1741
01:18:43,927 --> 01:18:45,661
where it was like he had this epiphany

1742
01:18:45,694 --> 01:18:48,263
how the future of everything would be,

1743
01:18:48,297 --> 01:18:49,537
and he was telling me,

1744
01:18:49,565 --> 01:18:51,166
and it was interesting. He was like...

1745
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,635
"This one will buy it."

1746
01:18:52,668 --> 01:18:54,637
"Many mid-level agents will leave,

1747
01:18:54,670 --> 01:18:56,916
and there will be a handful of people who can actually do it."

1748
01:18:56,940 --> 01:18:59,375
I'm pretty sure he's right...

1749
01:18:59,408 --> 01:19:01,744
but I didn't really get it.

1750
01:19:03,512 --> 01:19:05,547
Why are you wearing a tuxedo?

1751
01:19:07,249 --> 01:19:08,484
It's after 6:00.

1752
01:19:08,517 --> 01:19:09,953
What am I, a farmer?

1753
01:19:09,986 --> 01:19:13,455
He may be the last person to actually be in show business.

1754
01:19:13,489 --> 01:19:15,524
Because you have a lot of people from the business school

1755
01:19:15,557 --> 01:19:18,661
coming in, and they don't understand it, like,

1756
01:19:18,694 --> 01:19:22,398
You need to find a crazy writer

1757
01:19:22,431 --> 01:19:24,199
and I endure them.

1758
01:19:24,233 --> 01:19:28,370
When we did Donaghy on 30 Rock and I based part of it on Lorne,

1759
01:19:28,404 --> 01:19:29,838
what I based it on was

1760
01:19:29,872 --> 01:19:32,942
that I know things that you don't think are important,

1761
01:19:32,976 --> 01:19:34,543
and when I'm not in the writers' room,

1762
01:19:34,576 --> 01:19:36,445
You're all kidding me, but trust me,

1763
01:19:36,478 --> 01:19:39,281
Things I know will help you succeed.

1764
01:19:39,314 --> 01:19:41,283
Your spending is out of control.

1765
01:19:41,316 --> 01:19:43,252
Give me an example.

1766
01:19:43,285 --> 01:19:45,287
The first thing he said to me was,

1767
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,556
"Always tip at least 15% in a restaurant,"

1768
01:19:47,589 --> 01:19:49,558
or they'll write about you in the New York Post."

1769
01:19:49,591 --> 01:19:52,962
"You can't get in if you never leave."

1770
01:19:52,996 --> 01:19:55,297
"Don't get caught trying to be funny,"

1771
01:19:55,330 --> 01:19:56,966
and no funny pictures."

1772
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,801
Now, Jenna, catch the chicken.

1773
01:19:58,834 --> 01:20:00,602
Nice try, mate.

1774
01:20:00,636 --> 01:20:02,571
If you ask people about it, we can all say that.

1775
01:20:02,604 --> 01:20:04,749
"Buy a bigger apartment than you think you can afford."

1776
01:20:04,773 --> 01:20:06,542
"You have to look at it and think,

1777
01:20:06,575 --> 01:20:08,711
'Ooh, who lives here? It's me.'"

1778
01:20:11,547 --> 01:20:13,849
I think most of that time on 30 Rock was actually,

1779
01:20:13,882 --> 01:20:16,752
when I would call him and say, like, "What do I do about this?"

1780
01:20:16,785 --> 01:20:18,721
How can I handle the network in this case?"

1781
01:20:18,754 --> 01:20:21,423
If I watch 30 Rock now, I feel like

1782
01:20:21,457 --> 01:20:22,858
I talk to him every day

1783
01:20:22,891 --> 01:20:25,327
and I'm talking about it through that show.

1784
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,829
The Jack-Liz relationship

1785
01:20:26,862 --> 01:20:28,697
it is, in many ways, like a big one

1786
01:20:28,731 --> 01:20:31,000
thank you note to Lorne maybe.

1787
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,704
The thing about manufacturing is that it's an invisible art.

1788
01:20:35,738 --> 01:20:38,874
If you're good at it, you leave no fingerprints.

1789
01:20:39,508 --> 01:20:41,810
Everyone contributes what they contribute.

1790
01:20:41,844 --> 01:20:45,314
The writer writes it. The director directs it.

1791
01:20:45,347 --> 01:20:49,685
But you should never take your eyes off the show.

1792
01:20:49,718 --> 01:20:51,687
So it seems kind of ungrateful.

1793
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,624
It just takes more time to prove you were good at it.

1794
01:21:01,097 --> 01:21:03,899
I always call this place White Motown,

1795
01:21:03,933 --> 01:21:05,467
because it's like...

1796
01:21:05,501 --> 01:21:07,369
It's the same principle, you know.

1797
01:21:07,402 --> 01:21:08,680
Like, it's just kind of a culture.

1798
01:21:08,704 --> 01:21:10,572
Like, you want to be part of this group,

1799
01:21:10,606 --> 01:21:12,708
and still uncovers talent over the years

1800
01:21:12,741 --> 01:21:14,476
and all that, and it's kind of...

1801
01:21:14,510 --> 01:21:15,744
Wasn't Motown white?

1802
01:21:15,778 --> 01:21:17,846
- No, Motown was not white. - Oh. do you see

1803
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,382
But don't tell Stevie Wonder. He, he doesn't know yet.

1804
01:21:22,384 --> 01:21:24,520
It's a surprise.

1805
01:21:24,553 --> 01:21:27,656
Welcome to SNL Season 49 dress rehearsal.

1806
01:21:27,689 --> 01:21:30,692
Are you guys excited?

1807
01:21:30,726 --> 01:21:33,362
Everything you will see has never been seen before,

1808
01:21:33,395 --> 01:21:35,430
and some of those things will never be seen again.

1809
01:21:36,532 --> 01:21:38,034
Are you ready to start the show?

1810
01:21:39,835 --> 01:21:42,638
I said, "Are you ready to start the show?"

1811
01:21:42,671 --> 01:21:44,540
The one and only Kenan Thompson...

1812
01:21:50,013 --> 01:21:52,881
How is everyone doing tonight?

1813
01:21:54,616 --> 01:21:57,020
We have Jon "Taffers", the guy who shouts

1814
01:21:57,053 --> 01:21:58,554
- from Bar Rescue. - Yes.

1815
01:21:58,587 --> 01:22:00,489
A dress rehearsal is held

1816
01:22:00,522 --> 01:22:02,992
three and a half hours before the broadcast.

1817
01:22:03,026 --> 01:22:05,861
Literally at the last possible minute.

1818
01:22:05,894 --> 01:22:07,663
♪ You better take it easy ♪

1819
01:22:07,696 --> 01:22:09,498
♪ This place is on fire ♪

1820
01:22:09,531 --> 01:22:12,668
♪ It's been a hard day and I don't know what to do ♪

1821
01:22:12,701 --> 01:22:15,771
♪ Wait a minute honey, it could happen to you too ♪

1822
01:22:15,804 --> 01:22:19,108
♪ Well, I'm so glad we made it ♪

1823
01:22:19,142 --> 01:22:21,978
♪ I'm so glad we made it ♪

1824
01:22:22,011 --> 01:22:24,446
♪ You gotta give me some love ♪

1825
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:25,714
♪ Give me, give me some love ♪

1826
01:22:25,747 --> 01:22:27,951
♪ You gotta give me some love ♪

1827
01:22:27,984 --> 01:22:29,651
♪ Every day ♪

1828
01:22:30,186 --> 01:22:32,088
♪ You! ♪

1829
01:22:36,658 --> 01:22:39,494
♪ Oh! Well, I feel so good... ♪

1830
01:22:47,536 --> 01:22:49,038
Lorne looks at the dress rehearsal

1831
01:22:49,072 --> 01:22:52,075
from a small alcove below the stands.

1832
01:22:52,108 --> 01:22:54,810
He can be... I don't want to say "wild", but he can be

1833
01:22:54,843 --> 01:22:58,547
very clear what needs to happen.

1834
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,888
I don't think you're afraid of getting fired.

1835
01:23:05,922 --> 01:23:07,656
You are, literally, afraid of, like

1836
01:23:07,689 --> 01:23:10,126
"Am I done with comedy now?"

1837
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:11,961
And Lorne is like,

1838
01:23:11,995 --> 01:23:13,872
"I'm good under the bee..." And he was getting all, like,

1839
01:23:13,896 --> 01:23:15,898
"I'm quite well..." And I said, "Lorne,

1840
01:23:15,932 --> 01:23:18,767
"Being Under the Stand is sponsored by Imodium"

1841
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,803
for they all run and amuse themselves."

1842
01:23:22,471 --> 01:23:24,207
Many times, you will know

1843
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,143
Maybe it's not playing out the way Lorne thought it would

1844
01:23:27,176 --> 01:23:28,777
when he does this.

1845
01:23:41,490 --> 01:23:42,858
Yes. It feels like

1846
01:23:42,891 --> 01:23:45,861
He is removing the soul from the body.

1847
01:23:47,997 --> 01:23:50,199
Once, he turned to me and said:

1848
01:23:50,233 --> 01:23:51,968
"Can they take back the Emmys?"

1849
01:23:52,969 --> 01:23:53,802
I said, "Damn it."

1850
01:23:53,835 --> 01:23:55,871
Once, he asked the wardrobe, how, uh,

1851
01:23:55,904 --> 01:23:57,539
"What's the matter with that?"

1852
01:23:57,572 --> 01:23:59,151
They say, "Well, that was the writer's choice."

1853
01:23:59,175 --> 01:24:01,615
And he looks at me and says, "Oh, there are writers for this?"

1854
01:24:02,744 --> 01:24:05,048
"Well, thanks, bro. That's good stuff."

1855
01:24:05,747 --> 01:24:07,716
And then here's the good news.

1856
01:24:07,749 --> 01:24:11,087
He will have notes that are impossible to understand.

1857
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,089
I have a little question for you.

1858
01:24:13,122 --> 01:24:14,556
If you will come with me

1859
01:24:14,589 --> 01:24:16,692
- in the kitchen. - No, don't go, don't go.

1860
01:24:16,725 --> 01:24:18,045
I think I know what this is about.

1861
01:24:23,933 --> 01:24:26,069
Inevitably, people are

1862
01:24:26,102 --> 01:24:29,604
in love with you and disappointed in you.

1863
01:24:29,638 --> 01:24:31,606
You are a hero. You are a villain.

1864
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,077
You are a genius. You are a fool.

1865
01:24:34,110 --> 01:24:35,544
He knows that person

1866
01:24:35,577 --> 01:24:37,579
who is madly in love with him tuesday

1867
01:24:37,612 --> 01:24:40,582
they might want to kill him on saturday.

1868
01:24:40,615 --> 01:24:42,118
Because that's show business.

1869
01:24:42,151 --> 01:24:44,586
I was... I was by the lake

1870
01:24:44,619 --> 01:24:46,822
taking a bath like a prostitute.

1871
01:24:46,855 --> 01:24:49,825
Then you bend over and open the wound.

1872
01:24:50,460 --> 01:24:53,129
I think you should be afraid.

1873
01:24:53,162 --> 01:24:55,831
I know I am every week.

1874
01:24:56,631 --> 01:24:58,201
And that's stress.

1875
01:24:58,234 --> 01:25:01,870
Yes, their language is like a soothing and beautiful sound. I...

1876
01:25:01,903 --> 01:25:04,207
I don't know if I could do it justice. How...

1877
01:25:20,689 --> 01:25:22,624
Digital Short Film "Papyrus"

1878
01:25:22,657 --> 01:25:24,260
it was taking a particularly long time.

1879
01:25:24,293 --> 01:25:26,229
The first cut lasted over eight minutes,

1880
01:25:26,262 --> 01:25:29,165
an eternity in Lorn's time.

1881
01:25:29,198 --> 01:25:31,900
We had spent a lot of time and money on it,

1882
01:25:31,934 --> 01:25:34,070
they were doing the best they could

1883
01:25:34,103 --> 01:25:37,073
but they could not reach him in time.

1884
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,343
And only then did the door begin to close.

1885
01:25:47,816 --> 01:25:50,719
Uh, now, Professor, if IA is left unadjusted...

1886
01:25:53,956 --> 01:25:55,690
And everyone was breaking,

1887
01:25:55,724 --> 01:25:57,884
and everyone seemed to be enjoying the break.

1888
01:26:00,029 --> 01:26:02,198
Here's something very Lorne.

1889
01:26:02,231 --> 01:26:04,300
Uh, "Don't break."

1890
01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:05,935
"Hey, dude, come here.

1891
01:26:05,968 --> 01:26:08,337
"You don't laugh when you're in a skit."

1892
01:26:08,371 --> 01:26:10,907
You can't laugh while you're sketching."

1893
01:26:11,908 --> 01:26:14,077
She is talking to you.

1894
01:26:14,110 --> 01:26:16,079
Oh, I'm sorry. me?

1895
01:26:17,746 --> 01:26:19,348
Yes, you.

1896
01:26:19,382 --> 01:26:20,849
Madam?

1897
01:26:20,882 --> 01:26:22,018
- Yes. - Madam, me?

1898
01:26:22,051 --> 01:26:23,986
- Yes, you. - I'm very sorry.

1899
01:26:24,020 --> 01:26:27,622
It never goes the way you thought it would.

1900
01:26:27,656 --> 01:26:29,358
And I think, if you've been on stage,

1901
01:26:29,392 --> 01:26:32,095
especially if you've been on stage doing comedy,

1902
01:26:32,128 --> 01:26:34,097
i know it's all about fit.

1903
01:26:38,234 --> 01:26:40,669
Well, do you have a campaign manager?

1904
01:26:40,702 --> 01:26:41,770
I have the owl.

1905
01:26:41,803 --> 01:26:43,272
- Owl? - Yes. He eats mice.

1906
01:26:43,306 --> 01:26:45,942
- Does he eat mice? - Yes. In front of everyone.

1907
01:26:45,975 --> 01:26:47,410
- Really? - Oh my God.

1908
01:26:47,443 --> 01:26:49,744
Wait.

1909
01:26:49,778 --> 01:26:52,148
Lorne interrupts the sketches.

1910
01:26:52,181 --> 01:26:53,815
That's how I find out.

1911
01:26:53,849 --> 01:26:55,094
Unbelievable. All... I have...

1912
01:26:55,118 --> 01:26:56,852
I have to send him the therapy bill.

1913
01:26:56,885 --> 01:26:59,989
Of course it does. This is very funny.

1914
01:27:01,290 --> 01:27:03,025
Hack.

1915
01:27:16,738 --> 01:27:17,974
Yes.

1916
01:27:18,574 --> 01:27:21,210
Nice. Okay, thanks.

1917
01:27:28,117 --> 01:27:29,651
What?

1918
01:27:55,844 --> 01:27:58,347
I mean, it's really chaos every week.

1919
01:27:58,381 --> 01:28:00,715
OK, is there any way you can make an exception,

1920
01:28:00,749 --> 01:28:04,120
or is this... cut and dry rule?

1921
01:28:04,753 --> 01:28:07,056
Sometimes when things just go well

1922
01:28:07,089 --> 01:28:10,459
and all is written and all is finished,

1923
01:28:10,493 --> 01:28:12,727
it feels scary.

1924
01:28:13,529 --> 01:28:16,132
Lorne is known for keeping his cool,

1925
01:28:16,165 --> 01:28:19,502
although there are signs when he is losing control.

1926
01:28:19,535 --> 01:28:21,803
He collects the ice and throws...

1927
01:28:23,506 --> 01:28:25,074
in a refrigerator.

1928
01:28:25,107 --> 01:28:28,710
It's not, like, on anyone.

1929
01:28:29,811 --> 01:28:31,113
Jesus.

1930
01:28:31,147 --> 01:28:32,915
He will be angry about a missed shot

1931
01:28:32,949 --> 01:28:34,183
either this or that. He...

1932
01:28:34,217 --> 01:28:35,884
I know, that's how he cares.

1933
01:28:35,918 --> 01:28:37,220
He always talks about, like,

1934
01:28:37,253 --> 01:28:38,955
how parents are not allowed, such as

1935
01:28:38,988 --> 01:28:40,755
yell in front of their children because...

1936
01:28:40,789 --> 01:28:43,758
the scary part of, like, a kid seeing your parent out...

1937
01:28:43,792 --> 01:28:45,094
their parent out of control.

1938
01:28:53,135 --> 01:28:54,971
Looking at him, as if he were concentrating,

1939
01:28:55,004 --> 01:28:57,340
- but never, like... - Yes.

1940
01:28:58,574 --> 01:29:00,009
Maybe he has a small room

1941
01:29:00,042 --> 01:29:01,377
somewhere in this building

1942
01:29:01,410 --> 01:29:03,279
where he goes and, so to speak, there is a little panic.

1943
01:29:03,312 --> 01:29:07,882
My empire is crumbling!

1944
01:29:09,118 --> 01:29:12,021
He probably has concerns, but you don't see them.

1945
01:29:12,054 --> 01:29:14,190
All right, everyone go back inside.

1946
01:29:14,223 --> 01:29:17,460
You can't let anyone see you limp.

1947
01:29:17,493 --> 01:29:19,362
You are Lorne Michaels.

1948
01:29:19,395 --> 01:29:21,863
Thanks a lot guys.

1949
01:29:21,896 --> 01:29:24,899
Lorne and the best crew in the world...

1950
01:29:32,074 --> 01:29:33,976
As I've said over and over, uh,

1951
01:29:34,010 --> 01:29:35,478
we-we don't go on because it's ready.

1952
01:29:35,511 --> 01:29:37,380
We continue because it is 11:30.

1953
01:29:37,413 --> 01:29:41,284
And that tends to be very self-explanatory.

1954
01:29:41,317 --> 01:29:43,419
I mean, that's definitely a thing

1955
01:29:43,452 --> 01:29:47,490
After SNL, what was really helpful was, like, how to fix things.

1956
01:29:47,523 --> 01:29:50,026
A sketch wasn't working on the outfit, having confidence

1957
01:29:50,059 --> 01:29:51,826
to say, "We're going to make this work." - Yes.

1958
01:29:51,860 --> 01:29:53,262
- I know, how... - Okay.

1959
01:29:53,296 --> 01:29:55,040
What is it that gets in your way the most?

1960
01:29:55,064 --> 01:29:57,199
is to be unsure of yourself and fail.

1961
01:29:57,233 --> 01:30:00,236
I know, Lorne kind of gets that... that attitude.

1962
01:30:00,269 --> 01:30:02,171
You kind of learn Lorne's attitude, which is

1963
01:30:02,204 --> 01:30:04,216
more or less like what we're talking about, where is, how,

1964
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:05,984
"We're going to make this work. It's going to be fine."

1965
01:30:06,008 --> 01:30:07,842
- ANDY and FRED: Yes. - "Don't bother me with,

1966
01:30:07,876 --> 01:30:10,946
like, what is your anxiety at its core."

1967
01:30:14,016 --> 01:30:16,452
Dress rehearsal takes too long on purpose,

1968
01:30:16,485 --> 01:30:19,455
and sketches that are not played are cut.

1969
01:30:19,488 --> 01:30:22,158
Lorne has to leave 30 minutes into the show

1970
01:30:22,191 --> 01:30:24,260
and decide on a final order.

1971
01:30:25,027 --> 01:30:27,096
It's, like, dating.

1972
01:30:27,129 --> 01:30:31,133
They go to their secret lair, and then the show happens.

1973
01:30:35,571 --> 01:30:37,440
This group of producers

1974
01:30:37,473 --> 01:30:40,109
has been on the show for quite some time,

1975
01:30:40,142 --> 01:30:42,345
so there are many, mother,

1976
01:30:42,378 --> 01:30:43,946
non-verbal things.

1977
01:30:47,483 --> 01:30:50,186
The way he can

1978
01:30:50,219 --> 01:30:52,922
place a card on the board

1979
01:30:52,955 --> 01:30:55,291
it conveys a lot of meaning.

1980
01:31:18,547 --> 01:31:20,149
Nice.

1981
01:31:49,078 --> 01:31:50,713
Thank you all for being here.

1982
01:31:52,448 --> 01:31:54,116
We have work to do.

1983
01:31:54,150 --> 01:31:55,351
A...

1984
01:31:55,384 --> 01:31:57,119
We work for Lorne Michaels.

1985
01:31:57,153 --> 01:31:59,455
Nobody feels like they work for NBC. It's like...

1986
01:31:59,488 --> 01:32:01,624
We take notes from him.

1987
01:32:01,657 --> 01:32:03,292
It was a rough dress.

1988
01:32:03,325 --> 01:32:05,561
I don't know how many of you noticed.

1989
01:32:05,594 --> 01:32:07,263
I was there, and I saw it.

1990
01:32:07,296 --> 01:32:11,233
Uh, that audience had been sleeping on the sidewalk.

1991
01:32:11,267 --> 01:32:14,603
This will not be the case with this audience.

1992
01:32:14,637 --> 01:32:16,672
You'll have to do something to wake them up.

1993
01:32:16,705 --> 01:32:21,010
Uh, "Church", that's really funny.

1994
01:32:21,043 --> 01:32:23,312
And it looked like a family. Indeed it was so.

1995
01:32:23,345 --> 01:32:25,181
Yes.

1996
01:32:27,450 --> 01:32:31,187
It's like a parenting thing, where I remember all the times

1997
01:32:31,220 --> 01:32:33,055
said something nice.

1998
01:32:33,088 --> 01:32:34,457
You, so to speak, live with it for weeks.

1999
01:32:34,490 --> 01:32:36,192
- Oh my God, yes. - As if...

2000
01:32:36,225 --> 01:32:37,736
I had a good relationship with my parents,

2001
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,328
so i didn't really have it.

2002
01:32:39,361 --> 01:32:41,764
Oh, man. Damn.

2003
01:32:41,797 --> 01:32:43,399
Wow.

2004
01:32:44,233 --> 01:32:46,602
For a powerful, powerful person,

2005
01:32:46,635 --> 01:32:48,737
He doesn't use this information much.

2006
01:32:48,771 --> 01:32:52,741
Now, some people think so, but when you think about it,

2007
01:32:52,775 --> 01:32:55,344
Where does Lorne Michaels wield power?

2008
01:32:56,178 --> 01:32:57,746
He defends SNL.

2009
01:32:59,515 --> 01:33:02,485
We are in this building, Rockefeller Plaza,

2010
01:33:02,518 --> 01:33:06,188
that's 65 floors of cubicles and people on the phones,

2011
01:33:06,222 --> 01:33:07,756
and we have this floor

2012
01:33:07,790 --> 01:33:09,391
in which we get paid...

2013
01:33:09,425 --> 01:33:12,394
sometimes too much money... to be stupid.

2014
01:33:13,095 --> 01:33:16,365
My role as a producer was to create

2015
01:33:16,398 --> 01:33:18,534
this context in which people could play.

2016
01:33:19,201 --> 01:33:22,438
I know, people tell stories about waiting,

2017
01:33:22,471 --> 01:33:25,207
and I say, "I know," and-and, honestly,

2018
01:33:25,241 --> 01:33:27,409
it's not about power or rudeness.

2019
01:33:27,443 --> 01:33:30,813
It's just that I'm always near the biggest problem.

2020
01:33:30,846 --> 01:33:35,718
If someone is here breaking down, I don't go,

2021
01:33:35,751 --> 01:33:38,554
"Well, listen, I have to get on with my day."

2022
01:33:39,188 --> 01:33:42,658
I try to spend as much time as possible with anyone who...

2023
01:33:42,691 --> 01:33:45,461
I feel something going on.

2024
01:33:45,494 --> 01:33:47,263
Many people go from

2025
01:33:47,296 --> 01:33:48,731
maybe being on stage a few times

2026
01:33:48,764 --> 01:33:50,332
to be too famous.

2027
01:33:50,366 --> 01:33:53,502
And for me, he's someone I've talked to

2028
01:33:53,536 --> 01:33:56,171
about all these different stages,

2029
01:33:56,205 --> 01:34:00,109
and he has been there for me a lot.

2030
01:34:00,142 --> 01:34:02,211
My only legitimacy

2031
01:34:02,244 --> 01:34:04,580
it was that Lorne had chosen me.

2032
01:34:05,281 --> 01:34:07,516
Conan was a writer, bro.

2033
01:34:07,550 --> 01:34:09,552
"Hey, that guy should replace Letterman."

2034
01:34:09,585 --> 01:34:11,687
It's like, "Wow. Okay."

2035
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,255
And he was right.

2036
01:34:13,289 --> 01:34:14,690
You wouldn't be here talking to me

2037
01:34:14,723 --> 01:34:18,327
If Lorne hadn't made that phone call and stayed with me, then...

2038
01:34:19,695 --> 01:34:21,630
I'm glad it worked.

2039
01:34:21,664 --> 01:34:25,734
He gave me... helped me a lot.

2040
01:34:26,402 --> 01:34:28,771
I just asked for all these tips.

2041
01:34:28,804 --> 01:34:30,439
To grow old, to date,

2042
01:34:30,472 --> 01:34:32,775
getting married and having children.

2043
01:34:32,808 --> 01:34:36,145
Becoming a parent while on the show, I think,

2044
01:34:36,178 --> 01:34:38,647
it was also really meaningful to him.

2045
01:34:38,681 --> 01:34:40,883
If only he could see his children grow up.

2046
01:34:40,917 --> 01:34:43,852
Like a part of the family.

2047
01:34:43,886 --> 01:34:46,322
The thing I would tell any new writer

2048
01:34:46,355 --> 01:34:48,490
or cast member is that Lorne is protecting you

2049
01:34:48,524 --> 01:34:51,594
in ways you have no idea about.

2050
01:34:52,595 --> 01:34:55,264
He is very loyal that way.

2051
01:34:56,265 --> 01:35:00,302
I was in drug rehab twice, and the second time,

2052
01:35:00,336 --> 01:35:02,504
He called me, and, mother,

2053
01:35:02,538 --> 01:35:05,741
He could tell that I was just, like...

2054
01:35:05,774 --> 01:35:08,877
You know, sitting in my room in rehab, and he said,

2055
01:35:08,912 --> 01:35:11,847
"By the way, I'll be on the phone as long as you want."

2056
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,349
And I said, "Okay."

2057
01:35:13,382 --> 01:35:15,217
And he continues, "And we can talk about anything."

2058
01:35:15,250 --> 01:35:16,652
And I said, "Let's just talk about

2059
01:35:16,685 --> 01:35:17,921
nothing but that."

2060
01:35:17,954 --> 01:35:20,422
And then he told me how,

2061
01:35:20,456 --> 01:35:23,892
Mom, Peacock was wrong not to use Samsung phones.

2062
01:35:26,795 --> 01:35:29,198
"Update."

2063
01:35:29,231 --> 01:35:30,666
Don't worry about it.

2064
01:35:31,300 --> 01:35:33,268
Marcello, can you come in early?

2065
01:35:33,302 --> 01:35:34,670
- Yes. - All right.

2066
01:35:34,703 --> 01:35:36,772
Emma, ​​your stuff is playing really well in this one.

2067
01:35:36,805 --> 01:35:38,374
- Thanks, Lorne. - No problem.

2068
01:35:38,407 --> 01:35:40,309
You are welcome.

2069
01:35:40,944 --> 01:35:43,646
A...

2070
01:35:43,679 --> 01:35:44,747
All right.

2071
01:35:44,780 --> 01:35:47,182
That's pretty much our show for tonight.

2072
01:35:47,216 --> 01:35:49,785
So you - you know what to do there,

2073
01:35:49,818 --> 01:35:53,923
And, uh, if you could do it tonight, that would be great

2074
01:35:53,957 --> 01:35:55,791
because...

2075
01:35:55,824 --> 01:35:59,361
We won't see each other for a month,

2076
01:35:59,395 --> 01:36:01,530
which, in many ways, can be a good thing.

2077
01:36:01,563 --> 01:36:03,265
Uh...

2078
01:36:03,298 --> 01:36:06,669
so there will be plenty of time to... reflect on this show.

2079
01:36:07,803 --> 01:36:09,405
And people will point it out.

2080
01:36:09,438 --> 01:36:10,678
There's... no way they won't

2081
01:36:10,706 --> 01:36:12,641
because of all the things that are in it.

2082
01:36:12,675 --> 01:36:15,577
So you really have to look...

2083
01:36:15,611 --> 01:36:18,313
really in terms of why you are here.

2084
01:36:20,482 --> 01:36:22,284
You are the best at this.

2085
01:36:22,986 --> 01:36:26,255
I don't say that often, because most of the time it's not true.

2086
01:36:26,288 --> 01:36:28,290
But...

2087
01:36:28,323 --> 01:36:29,725
it will be tonight.

2088
01:36:29,758 --> 01:36:31,660
See you out there.

2089
01:36:35,898 --> 01:36:40,736
I think one of Lorne's superpowers is that...

2090
01:36:42,404 --> 01:36:44,273
we all want to make him happy.

2091
01:36:48,444 --> 01:36:50,646
If you plant daffodil...

2092
01:36:51,447 --> 01:36:53,782
first of all, you have to go through

2093
01:36:53,816 --> 01:36:56,652
thousands of daffodils out there...

2094
01:36:59,655 --> 01:37:03,258
and find what you want to watch.

2095
01:37:06,695 --> 01:37:12,568
And then you say, "I wonder what 10,000 daffodils would do."

2096
01:37:14,870 --> 01:37:17,806
Seeing people achieve themselves,

2097
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,010
becoming what they will be,

2098
01:37:21,044 --> 01:37:23,412
that moment is great.

2099
01:37:27,883 --> 01:37:31,320
A garden is like a show that doesn't talk back.

2100
01:37:32,956 --> 01:37:35,791
And it shows up on time every year.

2101
01:37:37,927 --> 01:37:40,629
When you're in charge, the point is that

2102
01:37:40,662 --> 01:37:43,365
to keep it alive and keep it going.

2103
01:37:43,398 --> 01:37:45,467
If you still think it's important.

2104
01:37:45,501 --> 01:37:47,336
But who has time to think about that?

2105
01:37:51,874 --> 01:37:53,776
Okay, everyone, are we ready to go?

2106
01:37:53,809 --> 01:37:56,812
You can follow us to the entrance. Please stay to the left.

2107
01:37:58,580 --> 01:38:01,450
Who is Lorne Michaels?

2108
01:38:01,483 --> 01:38:04,787
The guy from Canada who tapped into comedy?

2109
01:38:04,820 --> 01:38:08,024
The man who conquered television?

2110
01:38:08,057 --> 01:38:10,994
The tycoon who became a father?

2111
01:38:11,027 --> 01:38:12,795
There are many...

2112
01:38:13,595 --> 01:38:17,332
people trying to find Rosebud, I guess.

2113
01:38:17,366 --> 01:38:18,767
Rose shell.

2114
01:38:20,069 --> 01:38:21,938
I just think...

2115
01:38:21,971 --> 01:38:24,673
We are constantly surprised by who we are.

2116
01:38:24,706 --> 01:38:27,509
Live from New York, it's Saturday night.

2117
01:38:29,913 --> 01:38:33,649
My number one thing is: All life is reinvention.

2118
01:38:36,685 --> 01:38:41,456
So, to be clear... it's not going to happen.

2119
01:38:44,726 --> 01:38:46,895
So to clarify, what is your Rosebud?

2120
01:38:48,463 --> 01:38:50,666
I think maybe the fish.

2121
01:38:55,737 --> 01:38:57,773
Do they have names?

2122
01:38:57,806 --> 01:38:59,341
No.

2123
01:39:02,979 --> 01:39:04,780
My dogs have names.

2124
01:39:06,648 --> 01:39:08,617
O great God. You have a dog.

2125
01:39:14,023 --> 01:39:17,126
One night we were walking in Beverly Hills.

2126
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:18,594
It's dark now.

2127
01:39:18,627 --> 01:39:21,130
And the street light is shining on it.

2128
01:39:21,164 --> 01:39:23,699
And he has his baseball cap on, and I'm like... and I thought,

2129
01:39:23,732 --> 01:39:25,935
"Wow, Lorne used to be a little kid."

2130
01:39:25,969 --> 01:39:27,569
This is madness.”

2131
01:39:27,603 --> 01:39:29,504
Like, what a life.

2132
01:39:31,908 --> 01:39:34,010
And I would be ashamed to say this in front of him,

2133
01:39:34,043 --> 01:39:35,912
but i thought to myself,

2134
01:39:35,945 --> 01:39:38,881
"Oh, bro, Lorne's gonna die one day,

2135
01:39:38,915 --> 01:39:40,816
and I'm very sad."

2136
01:39:43,719 --> 01:39:46,622
I really like hanging out with this guy.

2137
01:39:46,655 --> 01:39:48,925
I'm just looking at it.

2138
01:39:50,826 --> 01:39:52,794
And then he went,

2139
01:39:52,828 --> 01:39:55,797
"That's the bathroom where George Michael was arrested."

2140
01:40:02,471 --> 01:40:04,539
♪ Big boss man ♪

2141
01:40:05,841 --> 01:40:07,876
♪ Won't you listen when I call you? ♪

2142
01:40:07,911 --> 01:40:11,180
♪ Big boss, big boss ♪

2143
01:40:11,214 --> 01:40:13,615
♪ Yes, big boss ♪

2144
01:40:15,018 --> 01:40:17,186
♪ Won't you listen when I call you? ♪

2145
01:40:17,220 --> 01:40:20,789
♪ Big boss, big boss ♪

2146
01:40:20,822 --> 01:40:24,193
♪ Well, you're not that big ♪

2147
01:40:24,227 --> 01:40:26,229
♪ You're just tall and that's it ♪

2148
01:40:26,262 --> 01:40:29,898
♪ Big boss, big boss ♪

2149
01:40:29,933 --> 01:40:32,701
♪ Well, you put me to work, boss ♪

2150
01:40:32,734 --> 01:40:35,171
♪ Working around the farm ♪

2151
01:40:35,204 --> 01:40:36,940
♪ I want to drink some water ♪

2152
01:40:36,973 --> 01:40:39,008
♪ But you won't give me some ♪

2153
01:40:39,042 --> 01:40:40,842
♪ Big boss man ♪

2154
01:40:42,678 --> 01:40:44,579
♪ Won't you listen when I call you? ♪

2155
01:40:44,613 --> 01:40:48,117
♪ Big boss, big boss ♪

2156
01:40:48,151 --> 01:40:51,120
♪ Well, you're not that big ♪

2157
01:40:51,154 --> 01:40:53,655
♪ You're just tall and that's it ♪

2158
01:40:53,689 --> 01:40:57,492
♪ Big boss, big boss ♪

2159
01:41:15,278 --> 01:41:18,147
♪ No, you're not that big ♪

2160
01:41:18,181 --> 01:41:19,983
♪ You're just tall and that's it ♪

2161
01:41:20,016 --> 01:41:22,751
♪ The big boss. ♪

2162
01:41:23,652 --> 01:41:24,732
- Are we done? - We are done.