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["Piano Concerto No. 2" playing]

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[music rises]

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["Piano Concerto No. 2" continues]

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[music continues]

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[music stops]

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[lemon scraping]

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[man] I always knew
that I loved music, okay?

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But the process of…

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of making music part of my life

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has been kind of a slow one.

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I always knew I wanted to do something
with the piano.

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But I've been told,
"You'll never be a pianist"

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or I've been told, "It's too late".

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Like, I really have to believe
in myself so much.

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And to do that, you have to be very brave.

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["Piano Concerto No. 2" playing]

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I used to hear the "Concerto No. 2"
of Rachmaninoff in my room

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and used to wave my hands around
and imagining it.

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The big climax of the first movement
for me would be just…

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that moment where you have this…

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electricity going through your spine.

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This is the first piece
where I finally clicked with the music.

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I always thought it was too hard

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and, uh, the fact that I started
practising the first movement,

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it was, for me, a big, um, breakthrough.

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It was like saying, okay,
maybe I could be a pianist.

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So, for me, it's… it's like the piece
where I can try to be brave.

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[piano playing]

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And again, can you do this?

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<i>♪ Da, da, da, da, ba ♪</i>

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[piano continues playing]

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Hey, C sharp.

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[plays piano]

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[man] Where is the one?

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I met Flavio, he was around the office

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and talking in Spanish
to one of our office girls.

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And I eyed him off this Italian leprechaun
jumping all around the place,

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and I was a little cautious with him,
and he certainly was cautious with me.

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And I think he thought
I was gonna be too religious.

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[lively piano music playing]

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Well, I first heard him teaching piano,

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and of course, with beginners, it's…

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it's plonkety-plonk and corrections,

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but I knew the young people liked him.

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And the name of it. Okay. Well done.

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[Flavio] Don't just move about like this.

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He doesn't just focus on the music itself.

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[boy] He focuses more
on the understanding of music.

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He is very picky about the little things.

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Can you please not do a heavy thumb here?

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Don't do this.

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Actually, can we do again
the one that we did before?

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[scribbling]

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You can tell he's very passionate
about what he does. He talks a lot.

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Maybe this one is uplifting,
and this one is down like you're doing it.

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Okay? So don't do all of them…

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Flavio is, um…

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[sighs] He's very precise
about everything.

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Like, it needs to be, like, right,

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and there's lots of work
to make something right.

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Stop, stop. Breathe. [inhales]

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[lively piano music playing]

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Beautiful.

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[man] Flavio's a little bit suspicious
of religion.

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And there's a reason for that.
He comes from Italy.

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And Italians are suspicious of religion

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'cause there's so much of it
in their culture

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and some of-- so much of it
doesn't really connect.

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Uh, and I'm kind of suspicious
of highbrow musicians.

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[dramatic piano music playing]

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[man] But, uh, that kind of changed
once I heard him play.

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It felt like he really meant it.

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He was caught up in it.

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And that caught me up.

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I was thrilled actually.

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[music continues]

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[music continues]

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[music continues]

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[music stops]

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[sighs]

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[Flavio] I've been invited to perform
Rachmaninoff "Concerto No. 2" in Italy.

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It's an incredible opportunity for me

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because this is the first time
I will perform with an orchestra

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and because I will perform
my favorite piece of music, ever.

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One's debut as a soloist with orchestra
is like a rite of passage.

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[man] It's a part of what allows you

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to express yourself as a solo artist.

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The second piano concerto by Rachmaninoff,

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it's such a well-known piece,
and the tunes are so memorable.

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It is both a gift
and a little bit of a curse.

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But when you hear a really great soloist,
a real great musician,

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and by that, I mean,
someone that's really in touch

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with what that lyrical music can say,

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then you realize that the piece
also challenges you

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to find what it's really about,

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what its heart is,
what it's trying to say.

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And even though there's a great deal

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of late 19th century Russian bombast
in the piece,

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there's also a lot of vulnerability,
a lot of gentle lyricism

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that very few people have the ability
to actually communicate.

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-[wind blowing]
-[leaves rustling]

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No, I don't think I can play this ending
of the first movement.

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-Fake it.
-[laughs]

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All right, I'll try.

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[plays redundant melody]

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[in Italian]
Sliding down with the fingers.

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[Flavio] Then I restart with an E note?

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-[man, in Italian] Then it goes like this…
-[Flavio] This is easy.

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[piano playing]

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[in English] I know Flavio,
it's now probably about 11 years.

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Ten, 11 years.

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I got to know him in Italy.
We were both living in Italy at the time.

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[fast piano music playing]

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[man] Flavio was clearly talented,
clearly talented.

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I said, "Look, Flavio,
you need to tell me,

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do you want to prepare the exam
or do you want to learn the instrument?

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Do you want me to build the final product
without a strong basement,

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without, you know,
the basics being really solid?

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Or do you want the full pyramid
of knowledge?"

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[indistinct chattering]

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Flavio had no hesitation.

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He said, "No, no, no,
I wanna learn the instrument."

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-[fast piano music playing]
-Ah!

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[in Italian] Here, you have both triplets
and couplets.

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Your right hand doesn't have to worry
about your left hand.

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-[soft piano music playing]
-[in English] Yes. Flavio…

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[plays redundant melody]

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And no.

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[soft piano music playing]

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Yeah.

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As a young musician,
when you are studying,

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when you are building
your professionality,

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when you are building
your knowledge and skills…

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uh, there is a moment when you feel,
"That's my life, that's my job."

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[man] But then what you experience
in the years later,

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it's something totally different.

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We don't choose the music,

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the music chooses us.

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And that's why you feel in a cage.

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That's why you feel you can't escape,

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you can't stop either thinking,
or practising, or listening.

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It's a wonderful prison.

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It's a golden prison, yes.

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But still, you know, doors are closed,

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and nobody has got the key.

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[soft piano music playing]

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[dark piano music playing]

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[Flavio, in English]
My first experience with music

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comes from when I was
about five years old.

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I had a very old, rusty keyboard.

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Apparently, I used to hear the music
from the advertising or television,

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or my dad's whistling,

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and I could play that on the keyboard.

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So I reproduced the Pasta Barilla tune

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and, uh,
other famous little children's songs.

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And so my parents said,

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"Oh, well, maybe he wants to do piano,
let's do some lessons."

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-[audience applauding]
-[indistinct chattering]

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[muffled singing]

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[Flavio] In a way, I never believed
I was that good,

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but, you know, it made me feel good
about myself.

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[muffled singing continues]

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[piano playing]

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[Flavio] I've never really done
the thing of saying,

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"You know, dad, you know, mum,
I want to be a pianist.

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I knew I liked piano but I didn't know
what I was going to do with it.

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That's why I have an IT degree.

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It's something practical."

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But I didn't want to end up saying,
"I wish I had done piano"

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or "I wondered what would have happened
if I did piano."

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[dramatic piano music playing]

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[Flavio] I came to New Zealand
because it's a little bit like a bet.

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Like, betting into seeing

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if dedicating 100 percent to the music

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could bring something.

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[Flavio] Studying piano performance
at the University of Auckland

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was incredibly hard,

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because when I started, I was 26,

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and I was probably one of the oldest.

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There is all these young students

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of 20 and 18 and 17

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and they all had far better repertoire
than I had

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and their accuracy
was ten times better than mine.

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It made me feel like, you know,
I can't do this.

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Here you have a 26-year-old boy
that wants to play the piano,

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but he has so much to work on

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because of his life.

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One of the difficulties
about training to be a pianist

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is that you're not playing with others
all the time.

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You're not like the orchestral musicians
go into the orchestra

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and they're told what to do.

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A pianist has to start
in his own room by himself,

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practising for hours and hours by himself,

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and that takes a certain kind of person.

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[Flavio plays fast piano music]

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This concerto is pretty difficult.

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It's full of treacherous moments

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where the pianist has to
not just play beautiful melodies,

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but they also have to negotiate
huge leaps and jumps.

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Rachmaninoff himself
was an amazing pianist.

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[woman] I think he had this
amazing facility and an enormous hand.

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So maybe some of these passages
weren't so hard for him,

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but for the mere mortals of this world,

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it does present quite a number
of challenges.

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[dark piano music playing]

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Rachmaninoff was a terribly
nervous musician.

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He worried about his, uh, abilities
as a pianist.

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Near the beginning
of his composing career,

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he had the opportunity to write
a symphony, his first symphony.

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It was generally regarded
as a terrible failure.

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And his natural
depressive personality took over,

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and there were several years, I think,
where he didn't write any music.

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He actually sought counselling

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in order to get out of this sort of morass
that he was in.

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He was so inspired by this kind
of counselling that he received,

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uh, that he immediately set about
writing this piano concerto.

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[music continues]

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It was an incredible success,
an outrageous success actually,

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and that was practically the basis
of his career from then on,

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both as a pianist and as a composer.

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[piano playing]

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Every piano is different,

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so you have to learn how to touch

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and how to make that instrument sound
even if you don't know him.

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To be a pilot,
you have to know all the bolts

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and little technicality of the machine.

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But in the moment,
when you are actually piloting

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and when you're actually flying the plane,

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all those technicalities,
they shouldn't be thought of.

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They become background.

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[Flavio] And what matters is flying.

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[classical piano music playing]

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Another thing I have to be very focused on

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is that I'm not playing alone,
I'm playing with an orchestra.

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So the orchestra will be doing things,
will be slowing down,

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will be may be doing things right
or wrong or…

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[Flavio] But I have to know
what they are doing.

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And the best way to practice that

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is actually to have a second piano
to play the orchestra.

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Well, tonight is the performance
where I can try a little bit

246
00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:07,980
with this type of tension,

247
00:19:08,063 --> 00:19:12,025
try to see how can I manage the focus,
how can I manage the concerto,

248
00:19:12,109 --> 00:19:15,821
how can I organize
the journey of the piece,

249
00:19:16,238 --> 00:19:20,367
and then, um, work in the next 20 days

250
00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:23,537
on the things that perhaps
I need to make better

251
00:19:23,620 --> 00:19:25,789
or fix for the performance
with the orchestra.

252
00:19:25,873 --> 00:19:27,875
[indistinct chattering]

253
00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:33,463
I'm not shaking. Well, not too much.

254
00:19:33,547 --> 00:19:35,090
Maybe a tiny… You can see here.

255
00:19:35,883 --> 00:19:38,302
But, uh… Yeah, maybe a little bit.

256
00:19:38,385 --> 00:19:40,387
But… Yeah, but I'm nervous.

257
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:43,557
[audience applauding]

258
00:19:45,392 --> 00:19:48,395
[soft piano music playing]

259
00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:11,001
[music continues]

260
00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:34,399
[tempo increases]

261
00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,749
[music rises]

262
00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:01,009
[music stops]

263
00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:04,513
[indistinct chattering]

264
00:21:04,596 --> 00:21:06,682
[in Italian] Listen to the recording,
and if you like,

265
00:21:06,765 --> 00:21:08,350
we'll have a couple of chats,

266
00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:10,894
not so much about what's already done,
but about what you change

267
00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:13,647
-for when you play with the orchestra.
-[in Italian] Of course.

268
00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:18,402
I can say 200 things that
you could work on, but this won't work.

269
00:21:18,485 --> 00:21:22,072
Because thinking about it
obviously creates pressure.

270
00:21:22,155 --> 00:21:23,782
You have to accept this result.

271
00:21:23,865 --> 00:21:26,243
But we have to make it better
in the time that remains.

272
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,082
[dramatic piano music playing]

273
00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:45,470
[Flavio, in English]
Of course I've had many doubts.

274
00:21:46,555 --> 00:21:49,224
That's very hard to deal with.

275
00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:54,396
Why would I want to become a musician?

276
00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:57,733
What it is to be a musician?
What am I doing?

277
00:21:57,816 --> 00:21:59,359
Is it to prove something?

278
00:21:59,443 --> 00:22:04,364
Is it my own ego journey?

279
00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:06,825
Is it because it really has a value
for other people?

280
00:22:08,035 --> 00:22:10,412
I mean, these are questions
that are there all the time.

281
00:22:14,958 --> 00:22:19,463
I wonder a lot about the role
of what I do with the music.

282
00:22:22,215 --> 00:22:25,635
You want to do it,
but you don't really have an idea why.

283
00:22:25,719 --> 00:22:27,971
It's just something
that you're driven to do.

284
00:22:29,973 --> 00:22:32,976
[music continues]

285
00:22:37,397 --> 00:22:38,523
[music stops]

286
00:22:44,237 --> 00:22:47,824
[piano playing]

287
00:22:54,498 --> 00:22:59,419
[woman speaking in Italian]

288
00:23:06,802 --> 00:23:10,180
[indistinct chattering]

289
00:23:12,265 --> 00:23:14,142
[sizzling]

290
00:23:21,149 --> 00:23:22,150
[sizzling]

291
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,944
[woman speaking in Italian]

292
00:23:24,027 --> 00:23:25,070
[man speaking in Italian]

293
00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:29,116
[sizzling]

294
00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:42,087
[rattling]

295
00:23:42,170 --> 00:23:43,755
[speaking in Italian]

296
00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:46,049
[woman mumbles in Italian]

297
00:23:48,635 --> 00:23:51,972
[both speaking in Italian]

298
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:58,562
[man and woman speaking in Italian]

299
00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:01,523
[sizzling]

300
00:24:05,694 --> 00:24:07,904
[piano music rises]

301
00:24:08,947 --> 00:24:10,657
[speaking in Italian]

302
00:24:14,661 --> 00:24:17,998
[indistinct chattering]

303
00:24:18,081 --> 00:24:20,500
[applause]

304
00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:26,548
[indistinct chattering continues]

305
00:24:34,806 --> 00:24:37,642
[woman, in Italian]
I've known Flavio since he was born.

306
00:24:37,726 --> 00:24:43,273
And I always had the impression
even when he was three or four,

307
00:24:44,065 --> 00:24:47,194
uh, that he had an artistic temperament.

308
00:24:47,277 --> 00:24:49,029
[in Italian] Flavio is very stubborn,

309
00:24:50,238 --> 00:24:52,741
very single-minded.

310
00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:55,869
[laughter]

311
00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:58,830
[in Italian] Outgoing. Stubborn.

312
00:25:02,584 --> 00:25:03,877
Knows his mind.

313
00:25:05,003 --> 00:25:10,383
-[speaking in Italian]
-[woman chuckles]

314
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:15,430
[in Italian] He's an artist.
He's very sweet-natured.

315
00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:21,645
[in Italian] He understands
that if he wants to achieve something…

316
00:25:22,395 --> 00:25:25,148
uh, he has to go after it

317
00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:28,109
and not get distracted by other things.

318
00:25:28,193 --> 00:25:29,778
[man] That's Flavio.

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00:25:30,195 --> 00:25:31,696
[mumbles]

320
00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:36,743
[vacuum whirring]

321
00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:48,421
[Flavio, in English] With my dad,
I have two descriptions, I would say.

322
00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:50,757
One is who he is now

323
00:25:51,091 --> 00:25:53,927
and one who he was when I was growing up.

324
00:25:57,013 --> 00:25:59,724
He was in the army and he was commanding

325
00:25:59,808 --> 00:26:01,601
and I suppose he had lots of pressure.

326
00:26:02,143 --> 00:26:03,895
[woman yells]

327
00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,606
[people speaking in Italian]

328
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:09,526
My mum is outgoing and a bit crazy

329
00:26:09,651 --> 00:26:12,988
and very happy and loving no matter what.

330
00:26:13,822 --> 00:26:15,865
[Flavio] But my dad is more sturdy.

331
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:21,121
In a way, I like--
I mean, I want to say the nice things.

332
00:26:21,705 --> 00:26:25,875
He's a very correct man.

333
00:26:26,501 --> 00:26:28,128
He wants to be correct all the time.

334
00:26:28,211 --> 00:26:29,963
[man speaking in Italian]

335
00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:32,090
[laughter]

336
00:26:32,716 --> 00:26:35,719
[classical piano music playing]

337
00:26:56,823 --> 00:26:58,074
[music stops]

338
00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:05,665
[in Italian] When he was young,

339
00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:10,712
he would never share his thoughts with us.

340
00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:15,258
He wouldn't tell us what was on his mind.
He kept things to himself.

341
00:27:15,342 --> 00:27:17,302
[indistinct chattering]

342
00:27:17,385 --> 00:27:21,264
[man] My brother, I think things
were difficult for him when he was 18.

343
00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:29,022
Then I thought things over
and then I understood.

344
00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:31,941
Yes, it would have been difficult.

345
00:27:33,693 --> 00:27:35,278
[plays soft piano music]

346
00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:40,742
[man, in Italian] This sensitivity,
maybe I didn't notice it

347
00:27:41,826 --> 00:27:43,495
because I was away a lot with work.

348
00:27:47,415 --> 00:27:53,129
Also, the principle of following the rules

349
00:27:53,797 --> 00:27:55,131
is important to me.

350
00:27:56,007 --> 00:28:00,637
Rules about work and such,
they have to be respected.

351
00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:08,186
So this sensitivity, I didn't notice it.

352
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,278
[indistinct chattering]

353
00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:21,282
Being gay in Italy is not very, uh, easy.

354
00:28:21,366 --> 00:28:23,284
It's a very conservative country. In a…

355
00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:26,830
In a province, it's very hard.

356
00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:30,834
Um, visibility is non-existent.

357
00:28:30,917 --> 00:28:33,002
Um, people prefer--

358
00:28:33,086 --> 00:28:36,965
There is no way to have
some role model of relationships

359
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:39,342
because there is not such a thing.

360
00:28:41,219 --> 00:28:45,682
The only thing I could experience in Italy
was like a parallel life, in a way,

361
00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:50,186
of not being who you are easily enough

362
00:28:50,603 --> 00:28:54,566
because there is nothing that tells you
that you can be with someone,

363
00:28:55,024 --> 00:28:56,484
and be happy.

364
00:28:58,111 --> 00:29:02,615
[in Italian] It was a struggle for me
in the beginning,

365
00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:04,075
but then I got over it.

366
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:07,036
But for Luigi, it was a bit harder.

367
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,956
[indistinct chattering]

368
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,917
[in Italian] On his part,
he didn't show it

369
00:29:14,127 --> 00:29:16,379
and he never talked to me about it.

370
00:29:17,005 --> 00:29:21,092
[in Italian] I think it was difficult

371
00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:25,221
as in all situations…

372
00:29:26,347 --> 00:29:29,768
uh, where the parents believe one thing

373
00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:33,104
and then they understand
that it's different.

374
00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:35,648
[indistinct chattering]

375
00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:42,947
[Flavio, in English] My dad didn't know,
but I wanted to show him

376
00:29:43,031 --> 00:29:44,949
who I was as a person.

377
00:29:45,033 --> 00:29:47,994
And I-- Every time we had a trip
in the car,

378
00:29:48,077 --> 00:29:49,829
we would talk about things,
about politics,

379
00:29:49,913 --> 00:29:53,708
about life in general, about views,
about, um…

380
00:29:54,375 --> 00:29:55,585
uh, values.

381
00:29:55,668 --> 00:29:57,879
And you know, just to say,
"Hey, Dad, this is me.

382
00:29:57,962 --> 00:29:59,547
You know, I'm this person."

383
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:03,134
But after a while,
my mum and my dad talked,

384
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:08,932
and then my dad said,
"I don't accept this at all."

385
00:30:16,397 --> 00:30:18,691
My dad then basically,
every night, would say,

386
00:30:18,775 --> 00:30:22,904
"Oh, when he leaves, I'll delete him
from the status of family.

387
00:30:22,987 --> 00:30:25,615
He's not my son anymore."
And stuff like that.

388
00:30:25,698 --> 00:30:26,908
Italian drama.

389
00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:30,578
[fast piano music playing]

390
00:30:33,414 --> 00:30:36,125
I decided I wanted to go somewhere
outside of Italy.

391
00:30:36,793 --> 00:30:39,671
And so he came to me
and he gave me 200 Euros,

392
00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:43,675
and he said,
"Okay, this is 200 Euros for you.

393
00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:46,052
You go take the plane,
but you know you're not coming back."

394
00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:49,180
[piano music continues]

395
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:58,940
So I said, "Well, you know,
I think you have…

396
00:31:00,483 --> 00:31:03,862
been a coward for not talking to me
all this time,

397
00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:08,157
that… um…

398
00:31:10,243 --> 00:31:12,829
I have showed you so much about who I am…

399
00:31:13,621 --> 00:31:18,209
um, that it shouldn't matter
who I am with in bed,

400
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:21,546
because what forms me as a man,
as a person,

401
00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:25,508
is all these things that I've tried
so hard to prove that I'm worth,

402
00:31:26,134 --> 00:31:29,387
to be whatever, loved or whatever…
[chuckles] …accepted."

403
00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:35,351
And then when I was in the car, actually,
I received this text from my dad,

404
00:31:36,185 --> 00:31:38,855
which I kept until I lost the phone
at some point,

405
00:31:39,439 --> 00:31:42,191
and the text said, "Maybe you are right.

406
00:31:42,692 --> 00:31:44,027
Maybe I was a coward.

407
00:31:44,110 --> 00:31:48,072
And let me know how the flight goes
and when you land."

408
00:31:57,373 --> 00:31:59,959
[woman speaking in Italian]

409
00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:03,588
[continues speaking in Italian]

410
00:32:03,671 --> 00:32:07,216
[all speaking in Italian]

411
00:32:07,967 --> 00:32:09,886
[in Italian] Who is this from?

412
00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:15,224
[woman] That looks great!
It's from Flavio.

413
00:32:18,811 --> 00:32:20,188
Oh, lovely!

414
00:32:21,522 --> 00:32:24,400
-[speaking in Italian]
-[both chuckle]

415
00:32:24,484 --> 00:32:26,736
[woman] To dad, from the boys.

416
00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:35,828
[fast piano music playing]

417
00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:52,345
His greatest challenge will be
to achieve his goal and to do it well.

418
00:32:52,428 --> 00:32:57,016
Because with him,
perhaps because of his character,

419
00:32:57,433 --> 00:33:00,228
things must be done,
but they must be done well.

420
00:33:01,312 --> 00:33:03,523
[music continues]

421
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:14,117
He doesn't do things superficially.

422
00:33:15,868 --> 00:33:19,580
He would probably prefer not to do
something at all rather than do it badly.

423
00:33:21,207 --> 00:33:23,835
[music continues]

424
00:33:35,638 --> 00:33:39,308
[sizzling]

425
00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:45,940
[indistinct chattering]

426
00:33:48,943 --> 00:33:52,488
Having faith in yourself
is the biggest obstacle

427
00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:55,867
that you have to overcome.

428
00:33:56,534 --> 00:34:01,289
I say "you" because we all have
to overcome it,

429
00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:03,207
but especially him.

430
00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:10,298
He has been dreaming for so long
about this concerto, uh…

431
00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:15,053
so I think he will be very emotional

432
00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:17,805
and he'll have to overcome this emotion.

433
00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:22,268
[music continues]

434
00:34:36,115 --> 00:34:37,325
[music stops]

435
00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:41,037
[Flavio, in English]
A few years ago, Filippo Arlia,

436
00:34:41,621 --> 00:34:44,248
director of the Orchestra
Filarmonica della Calabria,

437
00:34:44,665 --> 00:34:48,878
he heard about me,
we exchanged some contacts,

438
00:34:48,961 --> 00:34:51,547
and we talked a little bit about music.

439
00:34:51,631 --> 00:34:54,509
He offered for me to come back as a…

440
00:34:55,009 --> 00:34:58,846
as a soloist with an orchestra,
playing the Rachmaninoff concerto.

441
00:35:13,277 --> 00:35:15,321
[distant classical music playing]

442
00:35:22,286 --> 00:35:26,124
[orchestra playing instruments]

443
00:35:36,092 --> 00:35:39,011
It's going to be Flavio's first time
with an orchestra.

444
00:35:39,095 --> 00:35:41,514
[trumpet playing]

445
00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:48,813
He doesn't know the feeling,
he doesn't know the problem,

446
00:35:48,896 --> 00:35:52,150
he doesn't know, for example,
that inside an orchestra,

447
00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:53,526
there are noises.

448
00:35:57,572 --> 00:35:59,657
The noises of the bow on the strings…

449
00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:01,701
You know, there are noises.

450
00:36:02,201 --> 00:36:06,414
And they are all little things
that might distract you.

451
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:13,838
Following a conductor
or being followed by a conductor,

452
00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:17,008
they are all items inside a performance
with the orchestra

453
00:36:17,091 --> 00:36:20,219
that requires different behavior,

454
00:36:20,303 --> 00:36:22,013
and naturally, Flavio doesn't know.

455
00:36:24,807 --> 00:36:27,727
-[in Italian] The pianist, Flavio Villani.
-[in Italian] Greetings.

456
00:36:27,810 --> 00:36:29,812
[applause]

457
00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:39,030
[indistinct chattering]

458
00:36:39,113 --> 00:36:43,743
["Piano Concerto No. 2" playing]

459
00:37:05,932 --> 00:37:09,894
[violins playing]

460
00:37:12,939 --> 00:37:14,482
[in Italian] Play, everyone!

461
00:37:14,565 --> 00:37:15,691
Louder!

462
00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:21,989
[music rises]

463
00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:34,627
[music fading]

464
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:39,548
[in Italian] Rachmaninoff is an unusual
composer in the sense

465
00:37:39,632 --> 00:37:45,930
that you have to understand his work
before you can play it.

466
00:37:46,013 --> 00:37:49,267
But this is very hard because inside

467
00:37:50,226 --> 00:37:53,980
there is the fugue of Bach,
the music of Beethoven.

468
00:37:54,063 --> 00:37:55,147
There's a bit of everything.

469
00:37:55,231 --> 00:37:58,067
[music continues]

470
00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:02,405
[music rises]

471
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,367
So you have to know how to bring together

472
00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:09,078
the virtuosity of the piano
with the orchestra

473
00:38:09,161 --> 00:38:13,124
especially the progression of the brass
with the softness,

474
00:38:13,207 --> 00:38:17,628
the sweetness of the strings.

475
00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:28,931
[conductor] A conductor and a pianist
have to really get on

476
00:38:29,015 --> 00:38:32,810
and give their utmost
when you perform a work like this.

477
00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:37,565
[music continues]

478
00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:47,908
[Flavio, in English] This concerto
is filled with melody.

479
00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:52,913
It's like he put, in this piece,
all his soul singing…

480
00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:57,335
as loud as he could
in its many different ways and shapes.

481
00:38:57,418 --> 00:38:59,837
[music continues]

482
00:39:05,843 --> 00:39:10,556
[Flavio] There is a lot of redemption
in the-in the sound,

483
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:11,932
in the way it's shaped,

484
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:15,770
and the way it goes
from very dramatic moments

485
00:39:15,853 --> 00:39:18,939
to the most beautiful melodies.

486
00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,025
[music continues]

487
00:39:45,633 --> 00:39:49,136
I just have an experience
within the piece,

488
00:39:49,845 --> 00:39:53,474
uh, that I try to make my own
in the way I shape it.

489
00:39:53,557 --> 00:39:58,354
But the way I shape it
is not just with a story.

490
00:39:58,646 --> 00:40:02,024
It's more with feeling,

491
00:40:02,108 --> 00:40:07,863
with the way you pull,
and the way you want to hold back,

492
00:40:08,989 --> 00:40:13,619
or the way you want
to really let go of yourself,

493
00:40:13,702 --> 00:40:16,872
which is something
I'm learning a lot more lately.

494
00:40:16,956 --> 00:40:19,750
Because with such a piece,
you have to let yourself go.

495
00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:21,919
[music continues]

496
00:40:38,727 --> 00:40:40,771
[music continues]

497
00:40:49,655 --> 00:40:52,533
[leaves rustling]

498
00:40:52,616 --> 00:40:55,077
[wind howling]

499
00:41:05,504 --> 00:41:07,173
[dramatic music playing]

500
00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:11,969
[Flavio] In a way,
I always sought out affirmation.

501
00:41:13,095 --> 00:41:14,513
I look for that everywhere,

502
00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:17,558
for affirmation, all the time.

503
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,896
I want to be told I'm, you know, okay.

504
00:41:24,607 --> 00:41:26,358
There is always going
to be somebody better,

505
00:41:26,442 --> 00:41:28,152
there is always going
to be somebody different.

506
00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:30,738
And there are too many recordings

507
00:41:30,821 --> 00:41:33,240
of Rachmaninoff second concerto
in the world.

508
00:41:34,116 --> 00:41:36,702
So why would I say
I have something to add?

509
00:41:37,369 --> 00:41:38,787
I don't say that at all.

510
00:41:39,163 --> 00:41:41,874
I just propose my own journey.

511
00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:44,293
[music stops]

512
00:41:58,766 --> 00:42:00,601
[indistinct chattering]

513
00:42:04,438 --> 00:42:06,857
[Flavio] It's something
you look forward to so much in life,

514
00:42:06,941 --> 00:42:08,651
and you think you'll never reach,

515
00:42:09,235 --> 00:42:11,695
and you think this is going to be
too hard, and you listen to it

516
00:42:11,779 --> 00:42:13,614
when you're, you know, a teenager and say,

517
00:42:13,697 --> 00:42:16,659
"Oh, wow, my God, all those notes,

518
00:42:16,742 --> 00:42:19,078
and all that expression,
and all that power,

519
00:42:19,161 --> 00:42:22,206
I will never be able to do it,
not in a lifetime."

520
00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:27,753
[various instruments playing]

521
00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:35,261
[Flavio] And then, actually, you get
to the day when maybe you can do it.

522
00:42:35,928 --> 00:42:37,846
You start practicing a little bit and…

523
00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:40,349
"Oh, yeah, I could probably manage that."

524
00:42:41,392 --> 00:42:44,812
And then that's, in a way,
a statement to yourself,

525
00:42:45,521 --> 00:42:48,816
you know, to tell yourself
that you're on the right path.

526
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:54,863
[audience applauding]

527
00:43:03,789 --> 00:43:06,000
[Flavio] Why is music so important for me?

528
00:43:07,167 --> 00:43:12,089
It's because of the state
it gives to my mind.

529
00:43:14,133 --> 00:43:16,844
In a way,
it's the only moment where I can…

530
00:43:18,429 --> 00:43:20,222
feel absolutely still.

531
00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:24,810
The moment you play,
you are true to yourself.

532
00:43:25,811 --> 00:43:28,564
I think that's… that's the reason.

533
00:43:30,566 --> 00:43:33,402
["Piano Concerto No. 2" playing]

534
00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:53,756
[music continues]

535
00:44:13,233 --> 00:44:15,569
[music continues]

536
00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:29,375
[music continues]

537
00:45:04,785 --> 00:45:08,539
[music continues]

538
00:45:24,138 --> 00:45:26,223
[music continues]

539
00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:49,121
[music continues]

540
00:46:12,895 --> 00:46:14,938
[music continues]

541
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:54,895
[music rises]

542
00:47:17,292 --> 00:47:20,087
[music continues]

543
00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:45,529
[music continues]

544
00:48:11,054 --> 00:48:14,182
[music rises]

545
00:48:32,242 --> 00:48:34,745
[music continues]

546
00:48:55,724 --> 00:48:59,728
[music continues]

547
00:49:23,919 --> 00:49:26,630
-[music stops]
-[applause]

548
00:50:05,711 --> 00:50:08,088
[indistinct chattering]

549
00:50:11,883 --> 00:50:13,260
[woman laughing]

550
00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,930
-[indistinct chattering]
-Wow.

551
00:50:27,607 --> 00:50:32,070
[fireworks crackling]

552
00:50:32,154 --> 00:50:33,655
[hisses]

553
00:50:33,739 --> 00:50:34,948
[man] Whoo!

554
00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:38,035
[indistinct chattering]

555
00:50:38,118 --> 00:50:44,041
[Flavio speaking in Italian]

556
00:50:49,087 --> 00:50:50,130
[cork pops]

557
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:58,388
[indistinct chattering continues]

558
00:50:58,472 --> 00:50:59,806
Cheers! Cheers!

559
00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:01,349
[speaking in Italian]

560
00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:07,397
[Flavio, in English]
It's like the three movements,

561
00:51:07,481 --> 00:51:08,982
there are three different stages.

562
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,237
The first movement for me
has the most heroic part of it all.

563
00:51:15,655 --> 00:51:18,992
It's just so desperate.

564
00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:21,620
It feels desperate in the body.

565
00:51:22,746 --> 00:51:24,414
And what happens after it,

566
00:51:25,373 --> 00:51:31,379
it's all a cleansing of that desperation.

567
00:51:32,672 --> 00:51:34,674
Like climbing something

568
00:51:35,634 --> 00:51:40,305
and-and almost saying
you're not able to reach it.

569
00:51:40,388 --> 00:51:44,518
But then you reach it and…
and you cleanse yourself

570
00:51:44,601 --> 00:51:47,604
from all the pain that you might have had
in the journey.

571
00:51:49,815 --> 00:51:53,819
And for me, that moment is purifying.

572
00:51:58,740 --> 00:52:01,743
[closing theme playing]