1 00:00:32,041 --> 00:00:36,291 {\an8}I started thinking about my own story when I was little 2 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:42,125 {\an8}Since childhood, I like to daydream. 3 00:00:43,375 --> 00:00:46,375 {\an8}I could have almost gotten hit. 4 00:00:48,625 --> 00:00:50,750 {\an8}I guess I'm like that. 5 00:00:53,125 --> 00:00:55,041 Join me in welcoming... 6 00:00:55,125 --> 00:00:58,041 - Mr. Hideo Kojima. - Mr. Hideo Kojima. 7 00:00:58,125 --> 00:01:01,625 One of the most creative talents in gaming history. 8 00:01:02,791 --> 00:01:04,250 Fantastic. 9 00:01:04,333 --> 00:01:08,333 {\an8}What he created is not a game or a film. 10 00:01:08,416 --> 00:01:10,166 {\an8}That's his world. 11 00:01:15,458 --> 00:01:17,583 In the world of games, he is an expert. 12 00:01:17,666 --> 00:01:19,500 - I really like your work. - Thank You. 13 00:01:19,583 --> 00:01:23,750 You can tell this is Hideo Kojima's game even though there is no credit. 14 00:01:23,833 --> 00:01:25,500 Impossible. 15 00:01:25,583 --> 00:01:31,500 Video games are the greatest form of entertainment and strongest in the world 16 00:01:31,583 --> 00:01:34,625 and the numbers clearly show 17 00:01:34,708 --> 00:01:38,708 more than three billion people on the planet playing video games. 18 00:01:40,625 --> 00:01:46,083 Hideo is probably the most famous game creator 19 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:47,166 in the world. 20 00:01:47,250 --> 00:01:50,166 Like walking into a chocolate factory Willy Wonka 21 00:01:50,250 --> 00:01:51,791 with Willy Wonka. 22 00:01:54,958 --> 00:01:56,750 Just go with the flow. 23 00:02:02,208 --> 00:02:04,958 I think it has become the obligations of any artist 24 00:02:05,041 --> 00:02:08,708 to push the boundaries of their canvas. 25 00:02:12,791 --> 00:02:16,791 {\an8}There is no such thread for me to draw ideas 26 00:02:16,875 --> 00:02:19,125 {\an8}Fragments of ideas appear in my head. 27 00:02:24,041 --> 00:02:27,666 {\an8}I have these moments in making my game. 28 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:36,250 I'm very interested in the ways of people think creatively, whatever the field. 29 00:02:36,333 --> 00:02:40,916 All forms of art, the process is almost always the same. 30 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:47,125 It's a relationship between intelligence and intuition. 31 00:02:49,208 --> 00:02:52,250 He fights all the time. 32 00:02:57,333 --> 00:02:59,458 I don't know with whom. 33 00:03:01,583 --> 00:03:04,583 Maybe himself. 34 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:23,541 {\an8}If it says "Hideo Kojima's game", that means from beginning to end. 35 00:03:23,625 --> 00:03:29,666 {\an8}I'm involved in everything, it's a declaration. 36 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:35,291 {\an8}"Hideo Kojima's game" means we can't take shortcuts. 37 00:03:38,625 --> 00:03:42,083 Hideo Kojima is considered as director of the first video game film. 38 00:03:45,041 --> 00:03:48,000 After 30 years in this industry, 39 00:03:48,083 --> 00:03:51,000 he launched its own independent studio. 40 00:03:56,250 --> 00:04:02,416 {\an8}Always full of hard work, but this time I am independent. 41 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:09,916 {\an8}In my previous company, I'm free to do anything, 42 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,083 {\an8}but it's not my own brand. 43 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,750 {\an8}I have my own game, 44 00:04:15,833 --> 00:04:22,125 {\an8}but I have to protect the brand and profits 45 00:04:22,208 --> 00:04:23,541 {\an8}company. 46 00:04:24,916 --> 00:04:27,583 {\an8}In such an environment, 47 00:04:27,666 --> 00:04:30,500 {\an8}it's very difficult to create something sophisticated. 48 00:04:35,166 --> 00:04:37,916 {\an8}The only way is to produce it yourself. 49 00:04:39,916 --> 00:04:44,000 The story from that time is Hideo wants to propose a game idea, 50 00:04:44,083 --> 00:04:45,833 but he didn't want to tell anyone. 51 00:04:45,916 --> 00:04:48,375 He really wanted to someone approved the game 52 00:04:48,458 --> 00:04:50,083 without hearing what the game is. 53 00:04:50,166 --> 00:04:52,791 And everyone else in the Western world say, "You're crazy. 54 00:04:52,875 --> 00:04:54,166 We know you're Hideo Kojima, 55 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:57,791 but we will not approve of your game until you know what you're doing." 56 00:04:59,041 --> 00:05:01,750 {\an8}That's Sony's headquarters. 57 00:05:02,916 --> 00:05:05,958 Sony, as far as I know, basically said, 58 00:05:06,041 --> 00:05:09,625 "We will bet on you, Hideo Kojima, as creator. 59 00:05:09,708 --> 00:05:11,416 We don't even need to know what the game is. 60 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:12,666 Anyway, we're coming along." 61 00:05:26,833 --> 00:05:31,000 {\an8}Crooked, isn't it? Like this. 62 00:05:31,083 --> 00:05:33,916 {\an8}Yeah, that looks bad, it should go up like this. 63 00:05:37,333 --> 00:05:39,541 {\an8}This is a bit long. 64 00:05:39,625 --> 00:05:42,166 {\an8}It might not look good. 65 00:05:43,333 --> 00:05:49,458 {\an8}The first game I worked on Director Kojima is Policenauts. 66 00:05:49,541 --> 00:05:50,916 {\an8}And... 67 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:58,000 {\an8}Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 68 00:05:59,833 --> 00:06:04,708 {\an8}He told me at the beginning that he wanted a new challenge 69 00:06:10,208 --> 00:06:12,250 {\an8}With today's games, 70 00:06:12,333 --> 00:06:15,375 {\an8}we compete against players all over the world 71 00:06:15,458 --> 00:06:16,958 {\an8}to see who is the best. 72 00:06:17,041 --> 00:06:19,541 {\an8}We hit or shoot each other 73 00:06:19,625 --> 00:06:26,416 {\an8}or we might work together with others to shoot the enemy. 74 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:32,166 {\an8}The game is not like this, but about connection. 75 00:06:32,250 --> 00:06:35,708 {\an8}You help other people that you can't see 76 00:06:35,791 --> 00:06:38,416 {\an8}and it will bring you closer. 77 00:06:42,291 --> 00:06:44,875 {\an8}This is a unique characteristic of the game. 78 00:06:51,625 --> 00:06:55,208 {\an8}The first time explaining this to my staff, 79 00:06:55,291 --> 00:06:59,083 {\an8}I got a negative response. 80 00:06:59,166 --> 00:07:00,791 {\an8}They said, "But there isn't any who did that." 81 00:07:00,875 --> 00:07:05,666 {\an8}"You must be the strongest, You play because you want to stand out." 82 00:07:05,750 --> 00:07:08,291 {\an8}"Not doing something for someone else." 83 00:07:08,375 --> 00:07:10,375 {\an8}Most people have negative opinions about that. 84 00:07:16,416 --> 00:07:20,375 {\an8}When Director Kojima told me about his plans, 85 00:07:20,458 --> 00:07:24,291 {\an8}he said the game will be based on on "delivery". 86 00:07:24,375 --> 00:07:30,416 {\an8}Something with a game concept which is completely new. 87 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:36,708 {\an8}I wonder will it be accepted. 88 00:07:48,125 --> 00:07:55,083 {\an8}We started planning at the end of 2015 89 00:08:04,791 --> 00:08:09,625 {\an8}At that time, there is a lot of fragmentation and isolation. 90 00:08:19,125 --> 00:08:25,166 {\an8}It was a time when the world was divided. 91 00:08:26,125 --> 00:08:31,000 {\an8}Even though the world is connected by internet 24 hours a day, 92 00:08:31,083 --> 00:08:33,291 {\an8}it doesn't blend. 93 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,375 CONNECTION DISCONNECTED 94 00:08:38,458 --> 00:08:42,541 {\an8}I want to offer another way, 95 00:08:42,625 --> 00:08:47,166 {\an8}that's why I made Death Stranding. 96 00:08:50,583 --> 00:08:55,291 He's not one to just repeat himself. 97 00:08:55,375 --> 00:08:58,708 He really tried reinvent the way he plays. 98 00:08:58,791 --> 00:09:02,166 But the most important thing is the view 99 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:05,500 that he wanted to communicate something to players. 100 00:09:05,583 --> 00:09:08,666 He really had a message that he wants to convey in every game 101 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:11,000 which he hopes is translated to players. 102 00:09:12,250 --> 00:09:16,416 Every game he makes, there is a reason behind making the game. 103 00:09:18,458 --> 00:09:23,333 {\an8}First, they play Sam. 104 00:09:29,416 --> 00:09:32,500 {\an8}At first, they will feel alone 105 00:09:32,583 --> 00:09:35,500 {\an8}on a very dangerous road. 106 00:09:35,583 --> 00:09:37,291 {\an8}They feel lonely 107 00:09:37,375 --> 00:09:39,833 {\an8}when delivering packages and start connecting the world. 108 00:09:39,916 --> 00:09:42,666 {\an8}Only the player makes the connection, 109 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:47,458 {\an8}so, the feeling of loneliness was excruciating at the beginning. 110 00:09:47,958 --> 00:09:49,833 Hello! 111 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,791 Hey, you. 112 00:09:52,208 --> 00:09:56,000 - I'm Sam. - My name is Sam too! 113 00:09:57,250 --> 00:09:59,666 {\an8}They are starting to realize 114 00:09:59,750 --> 00:10:03,291 {\an8}that there are other people in the world do the same with them. 115 00:10:03,375 --> 00:10:06,208 {\an8}They are other players, other Sam. 116 00:10:14,625 --> 00:10:16,125 Thank you for the help. 117 00:10:18,208 --> 00:10:19,541 {\an8}They can't see each other, 118 00:10:19,625 --> 00:10:21,708 {\an8}but they started to see traces and realise, 119 00:10:21,791 --> 00:10:25,250 {\an8}"I'm not the only one who feels this way." 120 00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:28,625 {\an8}And it opens up from there. 121 00:10:28,708 --> 00:10:31,333 The people he left behind work hard, 122 00:10:31,416 --> 00:10:33,833 setting up the Chiral network terminal. 123 00:10:33,916 --> 00:10:37,083 But all these terminals are still isolated. 124 00:10:37,166 --> 00:10:39,583 We want you to bring them online. 125 00:10:48,458 --> 00:10:51,500 {\an8}There are invisible ghosts there, 126 00:10:51,583 --> 00:10:56,125 {\an8}he can feel it, but didn't see it. 127 00:10:57,625 --> 00:11:04,625 {\an8}Mr Kojima always gives space for players to think for themselves. 128 00:11:22,958 --> 00:11:27,125 {\an8}These people have allergic reactions against ghosts, 129 00:11:27,208 --> 00:11:31,375 {\an8}that's why they cry or goosebumps. 130 00:11:33,916 --> 00:11:39,083 {\an8}I'm sure there will be a moment of awakening what we get from good work. 131 00:11:40,625 --> 00:11:45,125 {\an8}I think all of Mr. Kojima's works are like that. 132 00:12:02,833 --> 00:12:08,250 {\an8}When I was still at school, there's a lot going on 133 00:12:08,333 --> 00:12:12,208 {\an8}and I don't get along with my school. 134 00:12:12,291 --> 00:12:16,458 {\an8}I never told my parents about this 135 00:12:16,541 --> 00:12:22,000 {\an8}When with my class or my friends, I will be cheerful and friendly 136 00:12:24,708 --> 00:12:28,375 {\an8}I'm from Kansai, so, I like making people laugh or tease other people 137 00:12:28,458 --> 00:12:32,125 {\an8}But when you're alone, 138 00:12:32,208 --> 00:12:35,708 {\an8}I will hug my knees, listening to music, and crying 139 00:12:35,791 --> 00:12:39,666 {\an8}After my father died, everyone is worried about me. 140 00:12:41,125 --> 00:12:47,208 {\an8}There were times when I felt very isolated and lonely. 141 00:12:49,166 --> 00:12:55,500 {\an8}Actually, because my father died, I can enter the gaming industry. 142 00:13:08,333 --> 00:13:11,291 {\an8}Back then games were not as accepted as they are now. 143 00:13:14,083 --> 00:13:18,875 {\an8}Gym centers are considered businesses which was suspicious at that time 144 00:13:18,958 --> 00:13:22,291 {\an8}This industry has a negative image. 145 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,291 {\an8}Only my mother doesn't mind. 146 00:13:30,375 --> 00:13:33,000 {\an8}"If you want to pursue it, it's okay." 147 00:13:39,375 --> 00:13:45,291 {\an8}My friends and relatives think my future is threatened. 148 00:13:45,375 --> 00:13:47,708 {\an8}That's how I'm seen. 149 00:13:48,333 --> 00:13:52,250 {\an8}If my father were still alive, he will definitely be opposed. 150 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:54,708 {\an8}He's a very scary guy. 151 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,125 {\an8}When I entered this industry, I was shocked found many people like me. 152 00:14:08,541 --> 00:14:13,833 {\an8}For the first time, there are people with burning passion to make something. 153 00:14:15,333 --> 00:14:18,458 {\an8}I had a lot of fun to almost no sleep at all. 154 00:14:28,375 --> 00:14:31,666 {\an8}I want to create things that no one has ever seen, 155 00:14:32,875 --> 00:14:35,708 {\an8}but it's hard sometimes. 156 00:14:35,791 --> 00:14:41,583 {\an8}If you say, this is a crossover between Robocop and Towering Inferno, 157 00:14:41,666 --> 00:14:46,041 {\an8}then we can combine two existing visuals. 158 00:14:46,125 --> 00:14:51,666 {\an8}But if you say, "Visually different to anything else", 159 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:54,500 {\an8}they can't imagine it. 160 00:14:54,583 --> 00:14:56,583 I don't know, new franchises now... 161 00:14:56,666 --> 00:15:00,333 I think both, it was very brave and very difficult. 162 00:15:01,541 --> 00:15:03,541 Mostly making strange recycled films. 163 00:15:03,625 --> 00:15:08,416 It's very difficult to get funding for new works in the modern era. 164 00:15:12,916 --> 00:15:19,416 {\an8}In the past, when I became a professional, they will give you one hundred million yen 165 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:22,708 {\an8}and we can make anything what we want. 166 00:15:22,791 --> 00:15:28,125 {\an8}But now the price is several trillion or tens of trillions of yen, 167 00:15:28,208 --> 00:15:32,208 {\an8}so, if it fails, there is a big risk for business. 168 00:15:32,291 --> 00:15:38,458 {\an8}So, they try minimize this risk 169 00:15:38,541 --> 00:15:44,458 {\an8}from all angles much greater than before. 170 00:15:44,541 --> 00:15:48,166 When you balance commerciality expectations 171 00:15:48,250 --> 00:15:53,125 from an investment of hundreds of millions of dollars. 172 00:15:53,208 --> 00:15:58,166 At the same time, want to be loyal not only to your vision, 173 00:15:58,250 --> 00:16:02,125 but on your whole idea of the game. 174 00:16:03,458 --> 00:16:06,666 It's like playing Russian roulette with six bullets. 175 00:16:07,375 --> 00:16:10,000 {\an8}How can we do it? 176 00:16:12,208 --> 00:16:15,750 {\an8}For everyday people, not this move, but... 177 00:16:15,833 --> 00:16:18,000 {\an8}More like this? 178 00:16:22,541 --> 00:16:28,333 {\an8}He tried to make new narrative experience. 179 00:16:28,416 --> 00:16:35,416 {\an8}I can imagine the path he took to achieve this 180 00:16:36,416 --> 00:16:38,583 {\an8}very difficult. 181 00:16:42,166 --> 00:16:45,333 {\an8}I've made a game for more than 30 years 182 00:16:46,791 --> 00:16:51,416 {\an8}Before, if I failed, my staff can move to other departments. 183 00:16:53,541 --> 00:16:55,166 {\an8}They still have salaries. 184 00:16:55,250 --> 00:16:57,916 {\an8}But now it's my own company, 185 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:05,833 {\an8}so, if I mess up, there will be no next project. 186 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,041 {\an8}Destroyed. 187 00:17:34,916 --> 00:17:38,500 {\an8}He does more work than necessary. 188 00:17:38,583 --> 00:17:42,000 {\an8}If you just play, 189 00:17:42,083 --> 00:17:46,083 {\an8}You probably won't notice how much information is packed. 190 00:17:46,166 --> 00:17:51,500 {\an8}This is the world he created in his work, virtual world 191 00:17:51,583 --> 00:17:55,791 {\an8}In this virtual world, he thinks about every element 192 00:17:56,875 --> 00:18:00,333 {\an8}I work as closely as possible with my staff 193 00:18:00,416 --> 00:18:05,333 {\an8}and make detailed adjustments every day. 194 00:18:06,833 --> 00:18:10,333 {\an8}But I guess this is how it works not common nowadays. 195 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:20,375 {\an8}- Hello, Everyone. - Hello. 196 00:18:20,458 --> 00:18:24,500 {\an8}While the camera is recording, the atmosphere is suddenly positive here. 197 00:18:27,958 --> 00:18:29,708 {\an8}Let's start with the bugs. 198 00:18:30,916 --> 00:18:32,875 {\an8}In Beta version, 199 00:18:32,958 --> 00:18:37,458 {\an8}we can't enter two corrections regarding memory, 200 00:18:37,541 --> 00:18:39,333 {\an8}but we'll try. 201 00:18:39,416 --> 00:18:42,666 {\an8}So, if it doesn't work, we will think of another way. 202 00:18:45,166 --> 00:18:49,750 {\an8}Starting next week, I'll start checking it out. 203 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:54,083 {\an8}I just spoke with Shinkawa about this. 204 00:18:54,166 --> 00:19:00,750 {\an8}On one side of the motorbike road where construction takes place, 205 00:19:00,833 --> 00:19:04,958 {\an8}there is a round protrusion. 206 00:19:05,041 --> 00:19:08,208 {\an8}I also want you to install round protrusion on the other side. 207 00:19:08,291 --> 00:19:12,125 {\an8}If only on one side, the car can't turn. 208 00:19:14,791 --> 00:19:16,958 {\an8}Usually at another studio, there are people who specifically focus 209 00:19:17,041 --> 00:19:18,416 {\an8}on a story or game, 210 00:19:20,375 --> 00:19:24,375 {\an8}but I did it myself, so, I do it in parallel. 211 00:19:26,083 --> 00:19:28,541 {\an8}This may just be doable in my own studio. 212 00:19:39,375 --> 00:19:44,583 {\an8}Is this also blue, what color should it be, green? 213 00:19:47,375 --> 00:19:48,750 {\an8}Other colors... 214 00:19:48,833 --> 00:19:53,208 {\an8}The route is unclear and difficult to find. 215 00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:58,791 In the art of collaboration or almost any art, 216 00:19:58,875 --> 00:20:02,041 usually at the end there is one sound. 217 00:20:03,666 --> 00:20:08,958 The person who is the driving force have to do one important thing, 218 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:15,166 namely creating a strategy that everyone can use. 219 00:20:16,333 --> 00:20:18,083 {\an8}If I do this, it will sound "Beep." 220 00:20:18,166 --> 00:20:20,333 {\an8}Yes, that's right. 221 00:20:20,416 --> 00:20:22,958 {\an8}Around here. 222 00:20:28,458 --> 00:20:30,833 {\an8}Like this, not like this. 223 00:20:33,833 --> 00:20:35,000 {\an8}Yeah, we'll try. 224 00:20:35,083 --> 00:20:36,833 {\an8}Let's see again. 225 00:20:36,916 --> 00:20:40,958 There is a kind of battle Darwinism what's on your mind 226 00:20:41,041 --> 00:20:43,375 and the strongest ideas survive. 227 00:20:43,458 --> 00:20:45,333 Everything keeps coming back to you, they won't let you go 228 00:20:45,416 --> 00:20:47,833 until you're a little obsessed with it. 229 00:20:49,625 --> 00:20:54,041 You move away from the work view very different and broad, 230 00:20:54,125 --> 00:20:58,250 then you get down to the job level 231 00:20:58,333 --> 00:21:00,333 very focused and detailed. 232 00:21:00,416 --> 00:21:02,375 And bouncing between the two. 233 00:21:07,083 --> 00:21:09,583 {\an8}You can't see this part correctly. 234 00:21:09,666 --> 00:21:12,375 {\an8}You're right, it's hard to see. 235 00:21:12,458 --> 00:21:16,166 {\an8}We also have to make it visible in this section. 236 00:21:18,291 --> 00:21:20,750 As far as they can go articulate it 237 00:21:20,833 --> 00:21:22,416 and convey it to others 238 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:24,708 and inspire others who works with them. 239 00:21:24,791 --> 00:21:28,333 Then the work will be comprehensive. 240 00:21:29,041 --> 00:21:32,291 Being in every aspect is amazing for me, 241 00:21:32,375 --> 00:21:35,791 it requires something I don't have. 242 00:21:35,875 --> 00:21:36,958 Very special. 243 00:21:37,041 --> 00:21:38,125 I don't know when he sleeps. 244 00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:40,875 I don't know if and when Hideo ever slept. 245 00:21:43,166 --> 00:21:47,083 {\an8}- You can do it with a double jump. - As if he was flying. 246 00:21:47,166 --> 00:21:51,375 {\an8}With Speed Skeleton, he had jumped quite high. 247 00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:56,833 {\an8}He can do it! 248 00:21:56,916 --> 00:22:01,250 {\an8}The reason the motorbike can't jump is because it got stuck in the rocks. 249 00:22:01,333 --> 00:22:05,833 {\an8}So, there are many cases where it is prevent the motorbike from speeding and jumping. 250 00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:15,041 {\an8}When creating a game, there is programming, art, storytelling, 251 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:18,125 {\an8}sound, interactivity, and so on. 252 00:22:18,208 --> 00:22:22,166 {\an8}There are many different fields to think about. 253 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:27,041 {\an8}You have to manage the mechanism which is very complicated. 254 00:22:27,125 --> 00:22:32,208 {\an8}Every minute, every day, we face problems. 255 00:22:33,416 --> 00:22:37,958 {\an8}So, we have to keep going make quick decisions 256 00:22:38,041 --> 00:22:42,416 {\an8}If more than ten meters and enough to kill you, 257 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:47,291 {\an8}can we make it red like a river bed? 258 00:23:05,166 --> 00:23:09,583 {\an8}I have 200 problems at once about making game details 259 00:23:09,666 --> 00:23:13,958 {\an8}and I have to decide everything. 260 00:23:14,041 --> 00:23:17,416 {\an8}So, what I can't solve still in my mind 261 00:23:19,458 --> 00:23:22,375 {\an8}It's on my mind even when I leave the office 262 00:23:23,583 --> 00:23:26,541 {\an8}Sometimes I do bug check in my dream. 263 00:23:29,541 --> 00:23:32,833 People may be responsible processing calls or machines 264 00:23:32,916 --> 00:23:35,375 and character construction, cheating, whatever. 265 00:23:35,458 --> 00:23:39,000 But the only person in charge of the orchestra 266 00:23:39,083 --> 00:23:43,083 for emotions and results is the auteur. 267 00:23:51,291 --> 00:23:55,208 {\an8}There are many directors I like is an indie filmmaker. 268 00:23:55,291 --> 00:23:59,958 {\an8}However, for me, 269 00:24:00,041 --> 00:24:05,250 {\an8}we also have to attract attention mass audience. 270 00:24:09,916 --> 00:24:14,416 {\an8}I like film directors such as David Lynch and Cronenberg 271 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:19,708 {\an8}Maintaining tension, but still appeals to a mass audience 272 00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:24,708 {\an8}That's the game I want to create. 273 00:24:26,083 --> 00:24:30,666 {\an8}Simply put, I think Mr. Kojima kinda obsessed with movies. 274 00:24:30,750 --> 00:24:34,375 {\an8}That's clear from the games. 275 00:24:34,458 --> 00:24:39,041 {\an8}There are several directors like this in our generation. 276 00:24:39,125 --> 00:24:43,125 {\an8}They like movies and watch a lot of them. 277 00:24:43,208 --> 00:24:45,708 {\an8}I think Mr. Kojima is like that too. 278 00:24:59,083 --> 00:25:01,625 {\an8}For me, film is the sun. 279 00:25:04,458 --> 00:25:09,375 {\an8}It's like plant photosynthesis with sunlight 280 00:25:09,458 --> 00:25:14,500 {\an8}I want to receive its rays to stimulate my cells 281 00:25:14,583 --> 00:25:17,000 {\an8}and inspire new creations. 282 00:25:21,916 --> 00:25:28,000 {\an8}Things that leave made a deep impression on me, like Kubrick, 283 00:25:28,083 --> 00:25:32,708 {\an8}is something innovative or new. 284 00:25:32,791 --> 00:25:37,500 {\an8}That can divide opinion. 285 00:25:37,583 --> 00:25:41,166 {\an8}But in the end, this is what stays with you. 286 00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:44,375 CINEMA K 287 00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:01,041 CITY CENTER DODGER STADIUM 288 00:26:03,875 --> 00:26:05,625 {\an8}DON'T BE AFRAID TO REDISCOVER YOURSELF 289 00:26:06,708 --> 00:26:09,041 Sam Beats Higgs 290 00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:17,250 So, that's the part we're doing today is Sam reaching west. 291 00:26:17,333 --> 00:26:22,125 I first heard about Hideo via Guillermo del Toro. 292 00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:26,791 So, Guillermo called me and said, “Hey, there's this guy. 293 00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:29,250 He will call you. Just say, 'yes'." 294 00:26:29,333 --> 00:26:30,333 And I said, "What do you mean?" 295 00:26:30,416 --> 00:26:32,583 And he said, "Whatever he says, say 'yes'." 296 00:26:34,833 --> 00:26:38,708 I know we will move on to a big world with big characters. 297 00:26:38,791 --> 00:26:41,625 Gave us a package to say to them, 298 00:26:41,708 --> 00:26:43,208 "Hey, this package is from Fragile." 299 00:26:43,291 --> 00:26:46,708 Many times I have to stop and said, wait a minute. 300 00:26:46,791 --> 00:26:48,250 So, what you're saying is 301 00:26:48,333 --> 00:26:51,458 whether it's about the story, about his character, 302 00:26:51,541 --> 00:26:58,250 about the area and size of the design, 303 00:26:58,333 --> 00:26:59,875 how it will relate with players 304 00:26:59,958 --> 00:27:02,333 and how the players are will be interconnected. 305 00:27:03,458 --> 00:27:06,541 Stories and experiences keeps getting bigger. 306 00:27:08,666 --> 00:27:12,791 There are many moments that I experienced with him when I said, “What? 307 00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:15,208 What do you mean?" 308 00:27:16,666 --> 00:27:20,833 Then at a certain point, he's kind of curvy in front of you, see? 309 00:27:20,916 --> 00:27:22,250 Like... 310 00:27:22,333 --> 00:27:23,833 Makes sense now, dude. 311 00:27:25,041 --> 00:27:26,708 Very reasonable. 312 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:29,500 It was confusing for many of us 313 00:27:29,583 --> 00:27:33,750 because the story is very complicated and deep. 314 00:27:33,833 --> 00:27:35,166 That's very confusing, 315 00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:39,166 but it's done in a great way is 316 00:27:39,833 --> 00:27:42,041 I feel like given little food, 317 00:27:42,125 --> 00:27:45,750 whatever you can handled by my brain at that time. 318 00:27:46,875 --> 00:27:48,125 Captain, 319 00:27:50,375 --> 00:27:53,666 I need you to hand him over. 320 00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:55,083 Shoot him, John. 321 00:27:58,958 --> 00:28:00,250 Let him go. 322 00:28:01,958 --> 00:28:03,083 Please. 323 00:28:04,125 --> 00:28:05,333 Shoot him! 324 00:28:06,333 --> 00:28:08,750 I give you orders. Shoot him. 325 00:28:11,833 --> 00:28:12,833 {\an8}Okay, cut. 326 00:28:15,291 --> 00:28:17,125 - Everyone, Monday... - I want to, okay. 327 00:28:19,541 --> 00:28:22,125 Trust in this medium is the key. 328 00:28:22,208 --> 00:28:26,125 This becomes the basic foundation for many reasons. 329 00:28:26,208 --> 00:28:30,000 Number one, it's all abstraction. 330 00:28:30,083 --> 00:28:31,750 Everything is vague. 331 00:28:31,833 --> 00:28:33,166 - Good, Mark. Third take. - Okay. 332 00:28:33,250 --> 00:28:35,916 There are only four white walls with multiple cameras. 333 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,500 That's right, we are ready. 334 00:28:39,291 --> 00:28:41,083 Ready? Start. 335 00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:45,958 Sam Bridges. 336 00:28:46,041 --> 00:28:47,958 So, trust is the bottom line. 337 00:28:48,041 --> 00:28:49,875 So... 338 00:28:49,958 --> 00:28:51,375 Fragile... 339 00:28:52,750 --> 00:28:55,208 Like the world and everything in it. 340 00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:57,875 Me? I... 341 00:28:59,458 --> 00:29:00,958 no exception. 342 00:29:03,666 --> 00:29:05,916 Don't forget the old you. 343 00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:13,416 I know, always wearing a mask is not easy. 344 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,291 But now the mask can come off, right? 345 00:29:24,791 --> 00:29:27,208 The more he tells me, the more I understand. 346 00:29:27,291 --> 00:29:29,708 You have to understand, I started making this game 347 00:29:29,791 --> 00:29:32,416 without understanding anything about what they talked about. 348 00:29:34,916 --> 00:29:38,291 So, a moment of trust deeper and stronger, 349 00:29:38,375 --> 00:29:41,958 the story line is becoming more and more revealed to me in a way that I can understand. 350 00:29:46,125 --> 00:29:50,625 I know we're on to something which is very special. You know? 351 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,583 We want players, the same flashbacks... 352 00:29:53,666 --> 00:29:56,416 Every time we think we know what this is about, 353 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:58,291 it turns out there are more layers and more. 354 00:29:58,375 --> 00:29:59,916 Except me. I see you, and I'm talking to you. 355 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,625 I said you should do it. 356 00:30:02,708 --> 00:30:04,791 Just direct me, just tell me. 357 00:30:04,875 --> 00:30:05,875 Yes. 358 00:30:05,958 --> 00:30:07,416 I'm like... 359 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,583 When you throw it away and lose your fear, 360 00:30:09,666 --> 00:30:12,083 suddenly there was a certain freedom in working like this. 361 00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:20,625 You can look at it and see what he created in that corner. 362 00:30:20,708 --> 00:30:23,666 "You know? I think I'm in good hands. 363 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:25,125 Let's just do it." 364 00:30:41,958 --> 00:30:43,250 Back off. 365 00:30:59,416 --> 00:31:03,333 {\an8}Bridges members are looking for Sam, but he's hard to find 366 00:31:03,416 --> 00:31:10,125 {\an8}Fragile, BB, Deadman, and everyone will work together to find it. 367 00:31:13,416 --> 00:31:16,916 It's complicated and very deep. 368 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,750 {\an8}That's the sound capture that we do. 369 00:31:21,041 --> 00:31:23,250 It's almost like a political statement. 370 00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:24,666 Okay. 371 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:26,125 OK, start. 372 00:31:28,583 --> 00:31:29,958 You ready, Fragile? 373 00:31:30,041 --> 00:31:31,375 Ready. 374 00:31:31,458 --> 00:31:33,250 Sam. 375 00:31:33,333 --> 00:31:34,583 I saw it. 376 00:31:35,875 --> 00:31:38,041 {\an8}- That one is good? - Yes, good. 377 00:31:38,125 --> 00:31:41,250 Make "Sam" a little faster. There he is. 378 00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:42,541 Okay. 379 00:31:42,625 --> 00:31:44,916 You love him, don't you? 380 00:31:46,166 --> 00:31:47,666 You love him. 381 00:31:50,291 --> 00:31:51,625 There he is. 382 00:31:56,750 --> 00:32:00,125 {\an8}People like Mads and Léa 383 00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:06,458 {\an8}has been in art house independent films, 384 00:32:06,541 --> 00:32:10,458 {\an8}but so do they 385 00:32:10,541 --> 00:32:15,041 {\an8}is in a Hollywood film. 386 00:32:15,458 --> 00:32:16,750 We're going back. 387 00:32:17,833 --> 00:32:19,416 We're going back. 388 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:24,875 {\an8}They're types of people who I want to work with. 389 00:32:24,958 --> 00:32:26,625 Secure the area. 390 00:32:28,208 --> 00:32:29,625 OK, cut in there. 391 00:32:29,875 --> 00:32:33,916 {\an8}I want to do something with them which digs a little deeper. 392 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,916 OK, lower the initial volume for "Shoot". 393 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,583 - Everyone ready? - Understand. Yes. 394 00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:41,625 OK, here we go. Record when you're ready, sir. 395 00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:44,666 Shoot. 396 00:32:46,291 --> 00:32:47,541 Shoot. 397 00:32:48,750 --> 00:32:50,041 Shoot. 398 00:32:50,916 --> 00:32:52,625 It feels quite open. 399 00:32:52,708 --> 00:32:54,250 He was very happy, obviously, 400 00:32:54,333 --> 00:32:57,416 because whatever we do, that's not the end result. 401 00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:59,958 He just wanted us to do the basics. 402 00:33:00,958 --> 00:33:02,208 Let go! 403 00:33:04,791 --> 00:33:06,541 Time to go, friend. 404 00:33:06,625 --> 00:33:10,500 The more we can give him real emotions or anything on that basis, 405 00:33:10,583 --> 00:33:12,000 he's getting happier. 406 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,750 Don't disappoint me. 407 00:33:16,708 --> 00:33:19,750 He is famous as a storyteller in the game 408 00:33:21,625 --> 00:33:24,916 There is chaos with the war of assassins. 409 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,208 But there is a certain beauty, a certain poetry to the whole picture 410 00:33:30,625 --> 00:33:34,833 I think that's also one of the keys why the games are so popular 411 00:33:34,916 --> 00:33:37,166 because they have both sides of the coin. 412 00:33:55,416 --> 00:33:58,375 It's interesting because it's the world that I don't know, 413 00:33:58,458 --> 00:34:00,541 the world of video games. 414 00:34:00,625 --> 00:34:02,291 OK, same thing here. 415 00:34:02,375 --> 00:34:05,416 He brought you something the one you always wait for. 416 00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:09,041 How did you get this? 417 00:34:09,125 --> 00:34:12,833 I don't know what to say, except thank you. 418 00:34:12,916 --> 00:34:18,291 That's also how to play video games, how to reach people 419 00:34:18,375 --> 00:34:20,083 Except thank you. 420 00:34:20,166 --> 00:34:22,250 - I guess play before coming back. - Yes. 421 00:34:22,333 --> 00:34:24,625 I guess it has to be with a smile, right? 422 00:34:24,708 --> 00:34:26,958 Yes, there must be a smile. 423 00:34:27,041 --> 00:34:28,625 Then, "How did you get this?" 424 00:34:28,708 --> 00:34:31,125 It's like, you tried weeks to get this 425 00:34:31,208 --> 00:34:36,333 and suddenly he came and give it to you. 426 00:34:36,416 --> 00:34:37,416 Okay. 427 00:34:39,791 --> 00:34:41,375 How did you get this? 428 00:34:43,083 --> 00:34:45,708 I don't know what to say, except thank you 429 00:34:45,791 --> 00:34:47,041 Good. 430 00:34:47,125 --> 00:34:49,416 - Thank You. - I think we did it, thumbs up. 431 00:34:50,458 --> 00:34:51,916 - Okay. - Okay. 432 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,083 Good. 433 00:34:53,583 --> 00:34:55,875 Finished. You can go out. 434 00:35:15,291 --> 00:35:19,625 {\an8}A popular game right now has a Hollywood feel, 435 00:35:24,916 --> 00:35:28,916 {\an8}action, gunfights, violence. 436 00:35:32,916 --> 00:35:35,958 {\an8}It's all fast action. 437 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,666 {\an8}Most games look very similar, 438 00:35:40,750 --> 00:35:44,583 {\an8}you don't even know the title from seeing how it looks 439 00:35:46,041 --> 00:35:48,083 {\an8}The newer it is, the more afraid they are. 440 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,375 Being original is hard. 441 00:35:57,458 --> 00:36:01,625 So, mostly relying on algorithms, 442 00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:04,750 which is the enemy of creativity. 443 00:36:04,833 --> 00:36:09,791 And I saw Hideo as an enemy of the algorithm. 444 00:36:09,875 --> 00:36:13,666 Which I think is unique is the tempo sensitivity, 445 00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:16,041 drama sensibility. 446 00:36:16,125 --> 00:36:17,416 I admire him. 447 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:19,916 It can go astray 448 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,083 in a direction that cannot be reached by Western storytelling 449 00:36:24,166 --> 00:36:27,208 and so it makes him very impactful. 450 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,625 I think Hideo Kojima is a very strange man. 451 00:36:46,708 --> 00:36:48,125 I think he likes... 452 00:36:48,208 --> 00:36:49,833 MUSIC ARTIST 453 00:36:49,916 --> 00:36:53,250 ...he likes to tell stories in a strange way. 454 00:36:53,333 --> 00:36:55,208 Which is unusual. 455 00:36:58,375 --> 00:37:02,333 It's in the uncanny valley between comedies 456 00:37:02,416 --> 00:37:05,958 and extreme seriousness. 457 00:37:06,041 --> 00:37:09,000 I don't know if it's a joke or not. 458 00:37:09,083 --> 00:37:11,500 I just thought, "Is he serious now?" 459 00:37:11,583 --> 00:37:13,458 Is this real? 460 00:37:13,541 --> 00:37:18,666 That's so cute, but also very sad. 461 00:37:23,708 --> 00:37:25,875 Before Hideo Kojima made Metal Gear, 462 00:37:25,958 --> 00:37:28,833 it's all about battle. 463 00:37:28,916 --> 00:37:32,333 He turned things around and now about avoiding battle. 464 00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:37,750 It's about hide and seek and the game is quietly becoming a trend. 465 00:37:37,833 --> 00:37:43,833 {\an8}Previously, in 1986, when I started my career, 466 00:37:43,916 --> 00:37:46,375 {\an8}there are many war games. 467 00:37:46,458 --> 00:37:53,458 {\an8}Makes war games feel uncomfortable because my parents had been to war. 468 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,166 {\an8}MOUNT FUJI 469 00:38:01,791 --> 00:38:04,166 {\an8}I heard various stories 470 00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:06,958 {\an8}about air strikes and real experience 471 00:38:11,125 --> 00:38:16,916 {\an8}I don't want to describe the battle as heroism. 472 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,375 {\an8}There is no need to ask why there is war 473 00:38:20,458 --> 00:38:27,458 {\an8}or who fights whom, I don't really like it, 474 00:38:27,541 --> 00:38:30,625 {\an8}so, that's why I tried includes an anti-war theme, 475 00:38:30,708 --> 00:38:33,500 {\an8}anti-nuclear in my game. 476 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:41,291 That's a wise approach to play games 477 00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:43,833 and it really exploded, you know, the stealth genre 478 00:38:43,916 --> 00:38:46,291 which is currently still in use in many games. 479 00:39:00,833 --> 00:39:03,375 {\an8}My house is close to the sea, 480 00:39:03,458 --> 00:39:10,250 {\an8}and it leaves an impression which is very strong for me 481 00:39:14,541 --> 00:39:20,708 {\an8}The smell of the sea and the view of the sea reminds me of the past 482 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:27,916 {\an8}At that time, the environment was perfect. 483 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,166 {\an8}Then I moved to the city the larger, Osaka, 484 00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:36,458 {\an8}and the changes are drastic. 485 00:39:41,083 --> 00:39:42,875 {\an8}Both my parents work. 486 00:39:44,291 --> 00:39:48,625 {\an8}Children from such families will be given house keys 487 00:39:48,708 --> 00:39:51,708 {\an8}because no one is home after school 488 00:39:54,791 --> 00:39:56,833 {\an8}At that time, such children are called "Kagikko". 489 00:40:00,291 --> 00:40:01,708 {\an8}When I open the door, 490 00:40:01,791 --> 00:40:04,833 {\an8}The first thing I did was turned on all the lights because I was scared 491 00:40:06,291 --> 00:40:10,708 {\an8}It becomes a habit which I still do 492 00:40:13,833 --> 00:40:16,250 {\an8}It feels very lonely. 493 00:40:17,375 --> 00:40:20,291 {\an8}I'll think of a story because I have a lot of time alone 494 00:40:45,333 --> 00:40:51,375 {\an8}At that time, if you are found by one person, five people came out. 495 00:40:53,041 --> 00:40:54,875 {\an8}Separate them a little, create a time gap. 496 00:40:54,958 --> 00:40:56,458 {\an8}Okay. 497 00:40:58,041 --> 00:41:01,083 {\an8}Only eight have come out. 498 00:41:01,166 --> 00:41:05,375 {\an8}When you get out of here, you're safe. 499 00:41:06,958 --> 00:41:09,750 {\an8}Should we make it like this or this? 500 00:41:09,833 --> 00:41:11,958 {\an8}As if he came out. 501 00:41:12,041 --> 00:41:13,625 {\an8}Like a zombie. 502 00:41:13,708 --> 00:41:19,666 {\an8}I want him to come out and have a look, as if to say, "Try and catch me." 503 00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:24,125 {\an8}Let me do it. 504 00:41:30,291 --> 00:41:33,208 I think one of the great qualities of his work 505 00:41:33,291 --> 00:41:37,125 is always referencing other art forms. 506 00:41:38,208 --> 00:41:41,291 Not a video game who talks about video games. 507 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:48,541 {\an8}My generation doesn't have video games when we were little. 508 00:41:50,208 --> 00:41:54,250 {\an8}We have other entertainment such as movies and books 509 00:41:54,333 --> 00:41:59,166 {\an8}and we enter which we absorb from there into the game 510 00:42:00,166 --> 00:42:05,791 {\an8}Who is a fan of Van Gogh? Raise your hand. 511 00:42:05,875 --> 00:42:07,333 {\an8}Nothing. 512 00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:15,791 {\an8}This film, Loving Vincent, was released worldwide last year. 513 00:42:18,208 --> 00:42:22,666 {\an8}When you create something, You need references from other genres. 514 00:42:22,750 --> 00:42:26,416 {\an8}Crazy movie. 515 00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:28,791 {\an8}I'm sure that since Mr. Kojima was little, 516 00:42:28,875 --> 00:42:32,125 {\an8}he watches a lot of films, read lots of books, 517 00:42:32,208 --> 00:42:34,583 {\an8}listen to a lot of music, 518 00:42:34,666 --> 00:42:40,375 {\an8}and lots of exposure to art. 519 00:42:40,458 --> 00:42:46,875 {\an8}So, of course he continued this until adulthood when creating their own work 520 00:42:46,958 --> 00:42:52,791 {\an8}and of course, what he absorbs will be reflected in his work. 521 00:43:09,041 --> 00:43:12,958 {\an8}Mr Kojima is an avid reader. 522 00:43:13,041 --> 00:43:18,291 {\an8}He reads various novels and publishing 523 00:43:18,375 --> 00:43:23,500 {\an8}And much of the story has been absorbed into him. 524 00:43:23,583 --> 00:43:28,458 {\an8}And from there a new world was born. 525 00:43:35,958 --> 00:43:41,083 {\an8}I'm an ordinary child. I really like books. 526 00:43:46,333 --> 00:43:48,625 {\an8}On the way home from tutoring 527 00:43:48,708 --> 00:43:50,916 {\an8}that's when I started going to bookstores. 528 00:43:52,875 --> 00:43:58,375 {\an8}When I stopped by, I saw the owner was alone, watching me. 529 00:43:58,458 --> 00:44:04,291 {\an8}The atmosphere was like that until I felt can't go there unless you buy a book. 530 00:44:04,375 --> 00:44:07,250 {\an8}Every time our eyes meet, I think I should buy something 531 00:44:07,333 --> 00:44:10,916 {\an8}and for me it's a science fiction book. 532 00:44:15,416 --> 00:44:18,416 {\an8}BOOKSTORE, HOUSEWIFE'S FRIEND 533 00:44:20,916 --> 00:44:25,833 {\an8}As I reflect on that time, maybe it's my escape from reality. 534 00:44:28,291 --> 00:44:34,083 {\an8}I feel quite confined within myself, 535 00:44:34,166 --> 00:44:38,875 {\an8}but science fiction sets you free from worldly things 536 00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:44,333 {\an8}Instead of just going to school every day and do the same thing, 537 00:44:44,416 --> 00:44:47,916 {\an8}suddenly a meteorite fell, 538 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,916 {\an8}or there is a virus outbreak or alien invasion. 539 00:45:00,416 --> 00:45:04,916 {\an8}You are in the world that you thought would end. 540 00:45:06,416 --> 00:45:11,125 {\an8}If you were in that fantasy world, you can release stress 541 00:45:22,125 --> 00:45:28,791 {\an8}That was the era when ordinary people not experiencing foreign cultures or the world. 542 00:45:31,625 --> 00:45:35,250 {\an8}When I was little, I studied about the world through books 543 00:45:37,958 --> 00:45:43,833 {\an8}In 1970, Osaka World Expo was held 544 00:45:45,125 --> 00:45:47,333 {\an8}Many people from abroad come to Japan 545 00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:52,833 {\an8}For the first time, I saw people from different countries 546 00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:59,375 {\an8}Advanced technology is there, 547 00:45:59,458 --> 00:46:03,750 {\an8}like a video phone, which is huge. 548 00:46:08,041 --> 00:46:10,625 {\an8}And the floor goes, 549 00:46:10,708 --> 00:46:14,000 {\an8}which we take for granted today, when we go to the airport 550 00:46:17,458 --> 00:46:22,041 {\an8}There are also displays of ancient cultural symbols every country 551 00:46:22,125 --> 00:46:27,083 {\an8}and that had a big impact on me. 552 00:46:27,166 --> 00:46:30,375 {\an8}"Progress and Harmony for mankind" is the slogan. 553 00:46:30,458 --> 00:46:32,500 {\an8}PROGRESS AND HARMONY FOR HUMANITY 554 00:46:39,791 --> 00:46:44,750 {\an8}There is a vision of the future where technology will make us happy 555 00:46:44,833 --> 00:46:47,458 {\an8}That would be the 21st century. 556 00:46:53,541 --> 00:46:57,541 {\an8}I feel like I saw the future. 557 00:46:57,625 --> 00:47:02,291 {\an8}Various cultures and customs combined 558 00:47:02,375 --> 00:47:06,333 {\an8}with advanced science to shape the future. 559 00:47:06,416 --> 00:47:10,125 {\an8}I can see the concept very clearly 560 00:47:12,666 --> 00:47:14,791 {\an8}Technology will connect the world. 561 00:47:19,791 --> 00:47:22,000 {\an8}It had a big impact on me, 562 00:47:22,083 --> 00:47:25,125 {\an8}You can create the world which is extraordinary. 563 00:47:52,875 --> 00:47:55,208 {\an8}To Kojima Productions... 564 00:47:55,291 --> 00:47:58,000 {\an8}Gold Master disc Death Stranding has been approved! 565 00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:04,375 {\an8}I was very excited on the day of the release. 566 00:48:06,250 --> 00:48:11,791 {\an8}If I confess, that's when I thought already moving on to the next idea. 567 00:48:11,875 --> 00:48:16,583 {\an8}Launching is an opportunity for me to move on to the next project. 568 00:48:16,666 --> 00:48:20,666 {\an8}It's important to be able to do this. 569 00:48:23,625 --> 00:48:27,625 {\an8}It's been about three years and nine months, 570 00:48:27,708 --> 00:48:31,708 {\an8}and for those who joined later, for all of you, 571 00:48:31,791 --> 00:48:33,041 {\an8}thank you very much for your hard work. 572 00:48:33,125 --> 00:48:38,375 {\an8}We take the first step, a big leap in the entertainment industry. 573 00:48:38,458 --> 00:48:41,291 {\an8}I've been involved for a long time in a project, 574 00:48:41,375 --> 00:48:47,166 {\an8}so, I'm very happy finally had a chance 575 00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:49,375 {\an8}to launch it. 576 00:48:56,666 --> 00:48:59,541 Welcome on Countdown to Death Stranding. 577 00:48:59,625 --> 00:49:01,375 We are in New York City. 578 00:49:01,458 --> 00:49:04,583 The World Strand Tour is here 579 00:49:04,666 --> 00:49:06,375 for an extraordinary experience 580 00:49:06,458 --> 00:49:09,375 and I'm honored joined by Hideo Kojima 581 00:49:09,458 --> 00:49:13,875 on the day Death Stranding launched all over the world. 582 00:49:13,958 --> 00:49:15,500 I remember there was a lot of tension 583 00:49:15,583 --> 00:49:18,000 during game development because everyone keeps saying, 584 00:49:18,083 --> 00:49:20,208 "Where's the gun? Where's the fight?" 585 00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:22,166 And Hideo said, “No. It's about something different. 586 00:49:22,250 --> 00:49:26,083 It's about walking and experience this world." 587 00:49:26,166 --> 00:49:29,250 That's a challenging idea. 588 00:49:33,416 --> 00:49:38,666 You can't always give the audience what they want. 589 00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:41,375 You also have to make them understand 590 00:49:41,458 --> 00:49:43,541 that sometimes they want something they don't know. 591 00:49:52,583 --> 00:49:55,416 The risk is people don't accept it. 592 00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,333 That could be considered too radical. 593 00:50:04,125 --> 00:50:07,958 But of course, the positive side is that you change 594 00:50:08,041 --> 00:50:11,083 the media you work in and that's why... 595 00:50:11,166 --> 00:50:12,375 WRITER - DIRECTOR 596 00:50:12,458 --> 00:50:14,916 ...his work is very important. 597 00:50:19,125 --> 00:50:20,500 Outside of AAA games, 598 00:50:20,583 --> 00:50:24,125 I think people often try to communicate at a deeper level 599 00:50:24,208 --> 00:50:29,000 in the game, but it was the first time I saw a game that big 600 00:50:29,083 --> 00:50:32,458 try to go deeper than would normally be attempted. 601 00:50:35,166 --> 00:50:37,000 {\an8}He created something very original 602 00:50:38,208 --> 00:50:40,666 {\an8}It's impossible to achieve that in every game. 603 00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:42,125 WRITER - DIRECTOR 604 00:50:42,208 --> 00:50:46,916 {\an8}You can feel the world which he created. 605 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,666 {\an8}Imaginary world. 606 00:50:51,166 --> 00:50:52,541 When you play Death Stranding, 607 00:50:52,625 --> 00:50:56,958 the dynamics are completely opposite with all other video games. 608 00:50:57,041 --> 00:51:01,583 You are taught virtue which seems impossible in the game. 609 00:51:01,666 --> 00:51:04,458 Patience, empathy, solidarity. 610 00:51:04,541 --> 00:51:08,791 This is the only game that gets me think I'm a better person 611 00:51:08,875 --> 00:51:11,166 at the end of the game. 612 00:51:16,416 --> 00:51:19,375 I like it when things are really complicated become very popular, 613 00:51:19,458 --> 00:51:21,583 because it makes me feel 614 00:51:21,666 --> 00:51:25,958 mainstream audiences can be open for weird experimental art. 615 00:51:29,375 --> 00:51:31,083 And it always... 616 00:51:31,166 --> 00:51:33,791 I don't know, what can make you believe on humanity, I guess. 617 00:51:44,208 --> 00:51:48,250 The function of art, philosophy, and humanity is... 618 00:51:48,333 --> 00:51:52,833 If you want to call it something, is to improve the human spirit. 619 00:51:52,916 --> 00:51:54,250 That's its function. 620 00:51:56,541 --> 00:51:58,541 And video games are art. 621 00:51:58,625 --> 00:52:01,208 The best side is art. 622 00:52:03,208 --> 00:52:06,333 That's where art has meaning. 623 00:52:06,416 --> 00:52:09,333 Not to please you. 624 00:52:09,416 --> 00:52:11,750 It's to inspire you. 625 00:52:11,833 --> 00:52:13,958 It was to provoke you. 626 00:52:14,041 --> 00:52:16,750 It's to entertain you. 627 00:52:16,833 --> 00:52:19,250 Death Stranding has all the components in it. 628 00:52:19,333 --> 00:52:22,541 It's all there, but there is much more. 629 00:52:29,541 --> 00:52:33,333 {\an8}Three months after Death Stranding was released, 630 00:52:33,416 --> 00:52:36,541 {\an8}the world in the game becomes a reality with COVID. 631 00:52:37,458 --> 00:52:40,500 {\an8}People play the game during quarantine 632 00:52:40,583 --> 00:52:43,333 {\an8}while they are isolated from other people 633 00:52:45,375 --> 00:52:50,625 {\an8}I love receiving messages from people who feel the game saved them 634 00:52:50,708 --> 00:52:55,666 {\an8}because the game connects them indirectly with other people. 635 00:52:56,291 --> 00:53:01,250 {\an8}That's my motivation to create something from the start 636 00:53:02,875 --> 00:53:07,250 Tentacles come out, looking for ways to connect with people. 637 00:53:07,333 --> 00:53:10,916 There's something the game can do 638 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,291 that shows or movies can't do. 639 00:53:15,375 --> 00:53:17,500 Not as effective. 640 00:53:17,583 --> 00:53:19,416 One of the things I like of this art form 641 00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:24,083 is you and I can come in and look at paintings together 642 00:53:24,166 --> 00:53:25,625 and we can talk. 643 00:53:25,708 --> 00:53:29,166 But there is a difference between you and me take the brush together 644 00:53:29,250 --> 00:53:31,791 and paint something together. 645 00:53:31,875 --> 00:53:34,041 To me, that's what games do. 646 00:53:34,125 --> 00:53:37,375 That's what we can do in Death Stranding at that time. 647 00:53:37,458 --> 00:53:40,541 When art is strong enough, it is like a prophecy. 648 00:53:41,708 --> 00:53:44,125 This was a COVID game before COVID-19. 649 00:53:45,625 --> 00:53:47,041 This is... 650 00:53:48,083 --> 00:53:52,666 the game I think responds to the shift 651 00:53:52,750 --> 00:53:56,000 that the pandemic brought before it happened. 652 00:53:56,083 --> 00:54:01,208 {\an8}I always thought this was strange in all the games we release... 653 00:54:01,291 --> 00:54:03,000 ARTISTIC DIRECTOR 654 00:54:03,083 --> 00:54:08,666 {\an8}...the world follows the scenario written by the director. 655 00:54:09,541 --> 00:54:13,916 {\an8}I think he's half a prophet. 656 00:54:15,208 --> 00:54:17,541 {\an8}Scary. I don't want to think about it. 657 00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:32,916 {\an8}My ideas come and go, overlapping each other. 658 00:54:35,375 --> 00:54:39,541 {\an8}But one thing bothers me I'm 59 this year. 659 00:54:42,125 --> 00:54:44,875 {\an8}I wonder how many games there are that I can make with the rest of my time. 660 00:54:48,791 --> 00:54:53,625 {\an8}I just felt that fear lately, 661 00:54:53,708 --> 00:54:55,375 {\an8}I've never felt it. 662 00:55:01,708 --> 00:55:05,458 There is no cultural evolution, unless updated. 663 00:55:06,416 --> 00:55:08,083 That's the history of all creative people. 664 00:55:08,166 --> 00:55:10,500 It must be continually refreshed. 665 00:55:10,583 --> 00:55:12,666 That's when the creative courage came. 666 00:55:19,958 --> 00:55:26,166 If we lose that one vision, we lose part of our humanity. 667 00:55:27,875 --> 00:55:32,083 If you are 100 percent honest with yourself as an artist, 668 00:55:32,166 --> 00:55:37,875 then your heart and soul will always beat for the future. 669 00:55:45,916 --> 00:55:49,208 All games are like distilling the most interesting thing around you 670 00:55:49,291 --> 00:55:52,625 becomes narrative and essentially that's the story, the film, 671 00:55:52,708 --> 00:55:53,958 or book. 672 00:55:56,541 --> 00:55:59,958 So it's interesting to see the game enter 673 00:56:00,041 --> 00:56:02,708 stages of the fairy tale in this way. 674 00:56:08,250 --> 00:56:10,000 A game is a story. 675 00:56:11,291 --> 00:56:13,666 The purpose of a story is to make meaning in life 676 00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:15,375 That's important to us. 677 00:56:15,458 --> 00:56:19,083 That's the only way we can explain the world and our existence 678 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,916 {\an8}My ambitions grow when there are more possibilities. 679 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:45,291 {\an8}There is an effect of what is in my mind which grows like this 680 00:56:45,375 --> 00:56:52,375 {\an8}and that's why it's entertainment in this technology zone it is very compulsive. 681 00:56:52,833 --> 00:56:57,333 {\an8}It's endless and you never get bored. 682 00:56:57,416 --> 00:57:00,375 {\an8}It was a lot of fun and cannot be rejected. 683 00:58:53,333 --> 00:58:55,333 Translated by Chairunnisa