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Benny, we're going to go again, is that
clear?

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Whole thing?

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Yeah.

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Speeding.

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Long, long ago in a land far, far away,
a wee fat Scottish boy was watching

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television when he saw astronauts
landing on the moon, and he thought to

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himself, oh, how did I get to be like
those magical men in the rocket ships?

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A voice came to him and said, First
thing you've got to do is get yourself

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America. And that's what I did, because
I was that fat wee Scottish boy.

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Now, look. See that hill over there?
That's Mexico. Not just the hill.

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lot more Mexico behind it. And then that
river there, that's the Rio Grande. And

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this here, this is the United States of
America.

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Now, a lot of people from over there
want to come over here. In fact, a lot

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people from all over the world want to
come here. Now, I know why I did it, but

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what about everybody else?

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What is America?

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Is it a promise? A contradiction?

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A dream?

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Everyone has their own idea, including
me.

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I wasn't born here, but I love this
place.

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I want to show you why I became
American.

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On purpose.

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I'm an immigrant, but a lot of people
wanted me to come here.

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They just all happened to be people who
lived in Scotland.

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But I came anyway.

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I took my oath to be a citizen on
February the 1st, 2008, in Los Angeles.

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It's a big deal becoming a citizen.

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It's like getting married, but to a
country.

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Except there wasn't a fight and no one
was drunk, so it wasn't like a wedding

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my family.

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Till death do us part.

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In my opinion, There is no view in the
world that can't be improved by turning

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to someone you love and saying, look at
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A shared experience with someone you
care about makes that experience even

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better. That was the feeling I got when
my dear, lovely pal, Katie Tunstall,

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became a citizen. Katie is a Grammy
-nominated rock star. She was born in

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Scotland, too, and also became an
American citizen, but only recently. So

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not at my level of America.

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So I brought her to Texas to learn her
song.

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Starting with Cowboy Hat.

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Big -ass Texas cowboy hat.

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Because pound for pound, gallon for
gallon, nothing says you're American

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cowboy hat.

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You got your steps, your ridge top, your
cattleman, your pink pony club, your

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giant foam novelty hat.

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American, every one of them. Well, maybe
that last one is made in China. But you

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get the point.

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Have you ever had one in your life? I've
never, ever had a cowboy hat. Poor KT.

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She desperately needs one.

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That is like J .R. Ewing's hat.

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I was obsessed with Dallas, the TV show,
when I was a kid because it was on in

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the 80s in the UK.

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Oh, we can't afford it.

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In the 1980s, Dallas was huge in
Scotland, probably because of all those

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And money, and sex, and oil.

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But mostly the hats.

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All those great characters.

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J .R., Sue Ellen, the old lady.

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Shania?

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The Jonas Brothers.

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B. Arthur.

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Okay, it was a long time ago. I don't
remember all the names. But I do know

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we all wanted to come to America and
live like they did on Dallas.

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You stay there, right? You be J .R.,
right? And I'll be Sue Ellen. Hold on.

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Right? Are you ready?

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J .R., what the hell are you doing? Not
now, honey.

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We're making a deal.

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Hello.

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How does one mount?

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Do you go in the syrup?

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There you go.

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There we go. There you go. Hey.

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Yes, sir. Katie and I are now American
citizens. We both don't have hearts.

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a woeful situation. It's terrible.

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I mean, because I feel like we're not
proper Americans.

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We can fix that.

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Do you know anything about hats, my
friend? I know my hat size.

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Which will be?

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Seven and three quarters.

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Really? Yeah. That's quite a large hat,
sir. I'm Scottish. We've got very big

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heads. Here.

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Silver belly. Silver belly. I feel
that's more my speed. Bow in the back.

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is great.

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Yeah, I like it. That makes me feel
good.

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It looks great.

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Now we have to get you a hat.

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Oh, that's good.

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Ah, very sexy.

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Let me just get on my side and talk
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Hey, let's pretend that we're riding the
range. Yeah. Yeah, right. Boat back.

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So tell me how you got here. Well, the
story goes.

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My dad was a physicist and he got a
sabbatical to UCLA in California when I

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four. In LA? When you were four, do you
remember it? And I had a completely

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American accent, like valley girl
accent.

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Shut up. I was like Cher from Clueless.

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Wow. There's like, my dad made little
recordings and there's me going, I want

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drink of water.

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That's so bizarre. Yeah. I had no idea
about that. And so my first memories are

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California.

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And it's like grape flavor and orange
trees and swimming pools and sunshine at

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Christmas. So it kind of imprinted on
me. But I just always wanted to get

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I think becoming a citizen is different
from living here.

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I remember the ceremony and just...

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kind of getting an idea of the
commitment of it. Yeah. Just going, you

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give up your allegiance to any other
nation. Right. And you would bear arms.

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You'd bear arms, yeah. And I was like,
wait, what?

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You probably don't want me to.

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Yeah, look, there's probably a better
option.

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But you do feel... It feels serious.

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Yeah. And you end up feeling proud and
protected.

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Yes, protective. And I think that also
when you come from outside into America

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as a country, it is this incredible
experiment.

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I know. And you really understand that
nowhere else on the planet is willing to

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try this experiment.

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I know.

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You and I coming here and deciding to
take part is part of what it's

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becoming. It's an ongoing thing. It's an
ongoing, constantly changing...

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experience right and we try and do it
the best we can what is that is that old

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line is it is the mark of civilization
of someone that would plant a tree in

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full knowledge of knowing they would
never sit in the shade of it yeah

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feel very lucky so many people would
love to be american and they can't do it

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know people have died Yeah. Many people
died today trying to get this. Yeah. And

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I've got it in my hand and I've done it
and it's a big deal. It is a big deal.

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It's a huge deal to become an American.
Glad you did it too. Yeah, I am too.

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Okay, maybe time we mosey along.

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Hey! Oh my God, I feel like I've been in
the saddle all day.

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Calamity Jane over here. Yeah, yeah.

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Who would I be then if you were Calamity
Jane? You'd be Billy the Kid or

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something. Nah, not Billy the Kid. I'd
be the ancient Bob or something.

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No, I'd be the guy. Say, they're coming
in here and shooting all around. I think

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I saw them. I don't know. They went that
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Where are you from? Mexico. I was born
in Mexico. I was born in Colombia.

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My father's side is a lot of Scottish.
Oh, okay. Sorry about that. I appreciate

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it. German. He's from Mexico.

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And I have some Japanese, too. My
parents are from Rwanda. I'm adopted

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Philippines. I'm Liberian. From
Colombia. And then on my mother's side,

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And German, but also Irish as well.
Okay, so you're kind of a control freak

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who's a drunk and a little bit impolite
in restaurants.

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I try to keep it on the low key for the
drunk part, yeah.

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There's more opportunities here in the U
.S., for sure, than Colombia.

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I believe that's really American to have
the opportunity of a better life.

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When I come here, the door is open, you
know. I was able to become something

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that I don't think I would have had the
opportunity to.

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What did you become?

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An engineer.

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Do your family, do they have contact
with... Your family back in Liberia and

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Rwanda? Yeah, I was in Liberia last
year. Oh, yeah? Did you like it?

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No. You wanted to come back to America?

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I did. I wanted Chick -fil -A.

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So they don't have Chick -fil -A in
Liberia? No, just rice.

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Yeah.

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We're good?

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Ladies, thank you so much.

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Shut up!

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When I came to America, I was young and
full of passion.

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Passion was the name of a cheap peach
-flavoured vodka in the 1980s. Surprise,

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surprise!

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Back home, I'd been doing stand -up,
music and acting for a while, but I

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knew if I wanted to be an artist, to
really do it, then America was the place

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for me, because, in my opinion, America
gives you the best shot to take your

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passion and turn it into success.

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That's passion the passion, not passion
the peach vodka. No -one's getting

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successful while on peach vodka.

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So, Craig, what are you doing in Miami?
I hear you asking, your adorable

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Scottish accent.

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I mean, besides walking around like a
total boss.

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Yeah, sup, fellas?

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I'm here to do art. I have to express my
feelings after those kids stole my

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jacket. What's his name?

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That's my name, Seafoam.

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Seafoam. I love it. Now we have to paint
over it. Oh, I'm going to, yeah. Right,

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right, right.

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And to help inspire two big stars from
Miami's electric street art scene.

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Golden and Dissem.

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Like me, both of these gentlemen came to
America to follow their artistic

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dreams. Is this for the 250? Yes, sir.
Ah, I love it. Very nice.

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Thank you. It's very nice.

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Dissem and Golden are just like me,
except cooler, I will admit. But just

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me, they felt in order to thrive as
artists and as people, they had to get

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America. I was born in Venezuela. Yeah,
did you come here when you were a kid?

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I came here when I was 18, 19.

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I was running from a very extreme
childhood.

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Yeah. And I was running towards, like, a
future. Yeah.

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That definitely I didn't have down
there. I grew up in a family with 11

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all engineers, and I was the first
grandson, and it was me. I started doing

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tattoos and graffiti as a kid.

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So my family...

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didn't understood why I was like that.

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I remember when I was like 12, I came to
New York and I see these two cops

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standing in the door of the airplane
with tattoos and piercings.

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And I've been fighting for two years
with my family for this. I'm like, then

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knew I was just born at the wrong place.

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You know? You belong in a different
place. I'm leaving.

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I'm going to move here one day because I
felt like I could be me. My mother and

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my father met at an art university in
Panama.

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and i have artists on both sides of the
family um from then on it we had the

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we're in panama we had the invasion of
panama right following that you know

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leaving all that you know the war pretty
much you know we ended up coming over

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here to the us so do you think in
central america or in south america that

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be able to to be the artist you are now
not in my country no yeah maybe in

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another country but not not there the
land of the free right it's been built

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immigrants and you know i mean i
personally

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I'm proud of being an immigrant, you
know, and being a positive influence,

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know. In America more than anywhere else
in the world, we're allowed to express

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ourselves freely, right?

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Street art is just like regular art,
except it's outdoors.

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You are, like, good with your cat and
the bros, though. That's it, Golden, you

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got another assistant, bro. I know,
you're higher.

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Seven bucks an hour.

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$7 .25, $7 .25.

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It's alfresco fresco. Look at that. It's
pretty good.

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When people see a dog in a building,
it's like they see it like something

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simple, but that is someone that focuses
their life into that.

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That's why it looks so fresh, so
stylish.

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Like the first thing you write is your
name or a penis.

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You know, like that's what you do.
You're a child.

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But then you learn. I like that you
said, because that's the first thing I

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was a penis.

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That's the first thing I've ever done.

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The first thing you draw is a penis.

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Now we're going to do some scraping.

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All right, let's give the painting a
try. All right. You see this line? Yeah.

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Angle it up.

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That worked.

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I feel like I look at it, and all I can
see is this line sticking out of it.

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Step back. A lot of times, especially
when you're at a wall, you've got to

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back and look at it.

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you know what it's okay yeah i feel like
it's all right i think it's cool man

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yeah i feel like it gave a little give a
little thing this is my i did this now

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yeah it's a collaboration with graffiti
art in particular i think it's such an

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american form of art because it starts
like it starts out like you're a bunch

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outlaws like you're the founding fathers
you're sure it's a revolution

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everybody's like oh these guys are bad
and it's all going to end badly and then

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slowly over time it becomes this multi
-billion dollar business changes the

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whole world

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Let me just do something for you down
here. I'll just do you one of these.

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Oh, no.

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Yeah!

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That's a keeper.

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You know what? We've got to leave that
on there. Like

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a

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lot of Americans, my entry point to this
country was New York City, and that is

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important. To me it was important
anyway, because New York is so diverse,

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multicultural, but it's also unique.

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The exotic smell of pee, hot dogs and
weeds cannot be replicated anywhere else

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on this planet.

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New York has an iconoclast spirit.

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That's a fancy way of saying, Hey, I'm
walking here.

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I know it was that way for me, and I
know it was that way for my friend,

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Rushdie. Salman has faced down lunatic
attacks and attempted murder for his

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iconoclast spirit, so it's only natural
that he would end up being an American.

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This is your funniest and most beautiful
book. Well, thank you. It really is.

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Salman's latest book, The Eleventh Hour,
is a collection of short stories, one

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of which is called Oklahoma.

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America holds a kind of almost mythical
quality in the story Oklahoma.

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It has this mysterious unfolding.

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Have you been to Oklahoma? I have been.
In fact, I had a nice experience in

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Oklahoma. I've always had a nice time in
Oklahoma.

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New York for me is almost equivalent to
what I think about as America.

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Because I'm a big city boy. Yes.

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I'm not really a countryside guy.

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No, I don't think of you as that. Have
you ever been on a horse? I have been on

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a horse. I was mostly terrified.

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I fell in love with the idea of America
long before I ever came to America.

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Yeah, me too, yeah.

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All of us new Americans have an idea
about America before we ever get here.

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Everyone has a vision and an opinion
about the United States, even if they

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get here. It's because we are not just a
country, we are an idea.

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How did it shape up to the real thing?
Because you, like me, became a citizen,

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right? Well, the thing that America
began to be equivalent in my mind to me

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New York City.

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Right. What I like about it is its
incredible diversity.

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Yeah. I remember when the Soccer World
Cup was here in America.

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You would walk down, like, Flatbush
Avenue, and you would go past bars, and

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there'd be, like, the Croatian bar, and
then there'd be the Brazilian bar, the

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Nigerian bar, full of Americans.

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cheering for all their different
countries of origin.

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Right, right. One of the reasons that
I'm here living in America is because of

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my admiration for the First Amendment.

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Yeah. I think that's an amazing thing to
put in your Constitution.

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Yeah. The freedom of speech, the freedom
of assembly, the freedom of belief.

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There's no other country that puts that
in the Constitution.

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I know.

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And the pursuit of happiness.

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And I think immigrants come to a country
because they want to be there. Yeah.

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I mean, if you're born in America, you
don't have the choice.

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It is what it is. But some of us make
the choice to come here, and that has to

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be an optimistic act.

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It is an act of optimism to become an
American. You're trying to put aside old

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ideas and start afresh. For example, how
can the English and Irish and the

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Scottish ever get along, even in the new
world?

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Well, obviously, the safest place would
be a bar.

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Matt Gilbert and Scott Walker are newly
minted Americans.

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I met them for a drink when they were
celebrating in that understated British

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way.

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So, an Englishman, a sort of Irishman,
and a Scotsman go into a

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bar, right?

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This is the party for you, who are now a
proud American citizen.

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How long have you been a citizen?

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About two weeks.

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How long have you been here?

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Since 2019.

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Do you miss the chicken shops of South
London?

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No. You sat the test already, right?

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Yeah. Did you do well? I mean, clearly
you did well enough. How did you do?

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I did okay, but I did mine in 2008.

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I became a citizen.

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The test was pretty much the three
branches of government. They asked about

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that. Yeah, three branches of
government.

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I think the toughest one I asked was if
the president wasn't going to be the

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president anymore or the vice president.

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isn't a president anymore. Who's going
to be the president?

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Right. And what did you put?

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The leader of the house. Right. I put
George Clooney. George Clooney. There

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go. I figured that was a good one
because everybody likes George Clooney.

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made you want to be a citizen?

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For me, it was the ability to vote.

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The right to vote. Yeah. It was a big
deal for me.

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Also, I couldn't do my job in London.

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So what you're telling me is opportunity
and the right to participate in

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government. Yeah, also like our American
dream is different. You know, we're

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white men, so it's like kind of a lot
easier.

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How will you as a new American citizen
go about changing that?

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And I think that's the main thing.

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Participating in democracy, which is
what we want to do. That's how I felt.

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I remember coming here and everyone was
so cool and it was just normal, so

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normalised that you could just do all
these things. And that was very

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to me. I feel that's the spirit of the
place. And that's why I've always been

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very adamant that I feel that New York
is a distillation almost of America

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because it takes all those artistic and
personal freedoms.

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extrapolate them into this mad city.
Yeah. Sometimes I'm just wandering

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I'll be in the most touristy place. I'm
like, this is incredible.

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Yeah. Like, you know, I take it for
granted. No time to swear.

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I'm going through Times Square the other
day and a kid came

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over to me and he was trying to give me
some pamphlet or something like that.

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Oh, yeah. Bullshitting me. I said, do I
look like I'm from out of town? And he

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said, I'm not kidding. He said, no, you
look like you're a dick.

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While it's fun to spend a little time
with these new citizens, it's

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to remember that not everyone who became
American had a choice. I chose to come

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to America, as did many others, but
obviously that's not the whole story.

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This country also belongs to the
descendants of those who did not choose

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Enslaved Africans forcibly brought here,
and Native Americans who were forced

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from their ancestral territory.

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Out of that painful history...

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comes the resilience and diversity that
still shapes who we are today.

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If we ignore that part of the story,
we're not telling all of it.

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It's part of who we are as Americans.

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What's the most American thing you can
think of right now? My grandfather came

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to me from Ecuador.

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To him, it was a cheeseburger and a Ford
Mustang, being able to work and

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send his kids to schools.

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you know, and have, like, better
opportunity for them.

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One thing that I think about America is
freedom.

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Also the dream, American dream. What is
the American dream? You can work hard

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and achieve your goals. What do you
think the American dream is?

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The ability to embrace your aspirations.

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Be happy. Be happy? Yes. Be happy, build
your own future on your own way.

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I ran a marathon.

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Oh, congratulations.

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The American dream, what does it look
like to you?

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I think just having the opportunity and
options to do whatever you want to do,

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whether it's running a marathon in New
York City.

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Freedom of religion, freedom of choice,
just everything.

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Freedom. You can be yourself. Yeah, I
guess.

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I think I can smell someone enjoying
their freedom. Yeah, yeah, right now. I

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smell it. Yeah, it's happening.

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In 1975, I came to America for the first
time. My dad and I got a cheap flight

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from the old country to visit my uncle
James and his family on Long Island.

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On this trip, I went to a bowling alley,
and for the first time, I tasted root

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beer over crushed ice, and I smelled the
aroma of rented shoes.

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To this day, the taste of root beer and
the smell of feet still mean freedom to

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me.

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Do you know how to vote?

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I do. On you go, then. All right, let's
do this. All right.

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Those pillars of democracy, foot smell
and root beer, were also a beacon for

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Abdi Noor Iftin when he dreamed of
escaping the vicious civil war in

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the teeth -chattering freedom of Maine,
the way life should be.

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He's now a proud American and the best
-selling author of the book Call Me

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American, a memoir detailing his
journey.

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When you become an American...

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Some things, like patriotism, come
quickly.

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Other things, like bowling, as you're
about to see, take a little longer.

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There you go. That's it.

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That's not bad, I guess. You have to
knock that one down now, don't you?

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There you go. That makes me feel more
comfortable.

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No!

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Oh, boy.

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How did you get into American football
coaching? There was a woman.

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In our neighborhood, she ran a little
movie theater.

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We sat on the dirt floor. We watched
action films continuously because the

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only had seven films.

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What were the movies? Do you remember?

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Commando. Right. Rambo.

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The Terminator.

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Just what you want when you're a kid
with PTSD and a war zone. Yeah, yeah,

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exactly. But actually, it was pretty
good entertainment.

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We're sitting in the movie theater, and
we were playing a quiz.

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What did he say, you know, when Arnold
says, I'll be back?

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Because, of course, you don't speak
English. We did not. That's how we

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it. Is that the first idea of you
wanting to come to America was these

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these guys? That is where the window
cracked open.

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I was like, I want to go there.

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So you learned English from Sebastian?

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Yeah.

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You speak English a lot better than both
of those guys. I agree.

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But the good thing is they spoke, they
said a few words. Right, just a little

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bit at a time. Exactly.

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I wasn't a journalist professionally.

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As soon as I spoke some English, I
started recording secret audio diaries

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Somalia that could get me killed.

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So it was an extremely dangerous move
that I had to do so that the world

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All of my audio diaries were actually
aired by a radio station based in North

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Carolina. And so many people partied.

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I had no idea you were such a badass.

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I didn't have any choice.

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It's just like I die or I do something,
you know.

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That's crazy.

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It was either of those.

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I became the storyteller to the
American. But it was a long way from

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this country. I had no idea if I would
ever do that.

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Were you still fixated on coming to the
United States?

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because I really wanted to be a full
human. For example, in Somalia, no

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schooling, no hospital, no clinic,
nothing like that. If you get injured,

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might die bleeding. I have friends who
died like that. And I kept thinking, I

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need to be someone who has rights and
freedom and access to the basic things.

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How did you arrive?

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There's this lottery system.

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Yeah. It's called the visa lottery. This
is like the golden ticket. Like

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literally the... Literally, yeah.

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There's no other way that I can get to
the U .S. other than this.

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There was a pretty good chance that I
could get denied.

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Even with the golden ticket?

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Well, yeah. Guess how many people apply
for this golden ticket? I don't know. 20

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million. 20 million? Every year.

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And how many get them? The U .S. State
Department only has 50 ,000 visas

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available.

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For 20 million applications?

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That's green.

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It is.

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All right, it's me to go first. Let's do
this.

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Yeah!

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Beat that.

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For Abdi, getting into the U .S. was a
dream that required an incredible amount

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of luck.

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Coincidentally, so does my bowling game.

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Don't do that. There you go.

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This is fun. We're evenly matched.

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How did you get here?

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Because it was a visa lottery program,
the government wouldn't help at all.

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Right. I had to go to a family who heard
my story on the radio.

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Yeah. They got involved in supporting my
process to come to the United States.

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They live in Maine, and now they become
my family. So if you're wondering, why

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do you spend your time sleeping on
Christmas? That's where I am. That's

454
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:52,729
though, man.

455
00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:54,510
I'm so pleased to hear that.

456
00:26:55,690 --> 00:26:57,570
We've talked to a lot of people about
freedom.

457
00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:59,730
What does that look like for you, the
idea of freedom?

458
00:27:00,030 --> 00:27:06,870
In this country, if I wake up tomorrow
and decide to drive my own car from

459
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:11,730
Maine and head all the way to the other
end of this country, I can do that.

460
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:14,610
Freedom to you is being able to go where
you want.

461
00:27:15,130 --> 00:27:16,130
Choices. Absolutely.

462
00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:19,210
I think freedom hits different when you
come from my background.

463
00:27:19,450 --> 00:27:24,430
That I can appreciate each mile that I
drive knowing that I can do that.

464
00:27:25,070 --> 00:27:25,769
It's amazing.

465
00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:27,650
To me, it's more than a vacation.

466
00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:29,670
It's freedom.

467
00:27:30,050 --> 00:27:31,170
Freedom. Absolutely.

468
00:27:31,450 --> 00:27:32,450
Literally. Yeah.

469
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:35,310
Yes, he said.

470
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:38,590
You still win. You need 21 points for
the game.

471
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:40,890
Two strikes.

472
00:27:41,310 --> 00:27:42,310
All right.

473
00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:48,390
Okay, you can technically still get
another strike.

474
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:51,570
Oh, no.

475
00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:53,430
Oh, no.

476
00:27:54,730 --> 00:27:56,570
Get another roll, yeah. All right.

477
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:02,230
Oh, no!

478
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:04,910
Oh, look at that.

479
00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:07,650
Yeah. All right.

480
00:28:08,010 --> 00:28:12,890
Now, Abdi and I both suck at bowling,
which is our right as Americans. We're

481
00:28:12,890 --> 00:28:17,050
free, except from harsh judgment by the
chodes of the Internet.

482
00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:28,580
You have to understand, in 1975, getting
from Scotland to America was like

483
00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:30,360
getting from America to the moon.

484
00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:32,080
It was a different world.

485
00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:37,820
One small step for a man, one giant leap
for a wee fat Scottish boy.

486
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Mike Massimino is a former NASA
astronaut.

487
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,040
He helped fix the Hubble telescope
twice.

488
00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:55,990
and set a record for the longest
spacewalk on a mission.

489
00:28:56,810 --> 00:29:01,950
He also comes from an immigrant family
with very humble beginnings, and yet he

490
00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:05,490
still found his way from Long Island,
New York, to outer space.

491
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:10,310
To me, an astronaut is still one of the
most American jobs there is.

492
00:29:10,570 --> 00:29:14,870
Mike and I are at the Intrepid Sea, Air
and Space Museum, where we're talking

493
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:18,990
about what it means to have the guts to
go to space, or the guts to immigrate to

494
00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:19,990
America.

495
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:22,200
Your second name's Massimino.

496
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Yes. So I'm thinking Italian.

497
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:31,100
Yes. Your grandparents came here? Yeah,
all four of my grandparents immigrated

498
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:35,780
in the early part of the 20th century,
all from Sicily. The American dream for

499
00:29:35,780 --> 00:29:41,600
them is come here, bear life, raise your
family. It wasn't necessarily for them.

500
00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:44,210
I think they did it for their future
generations.

501
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:45,470
Which you are.

502
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:49,530
And that's what I think it was all
about. They came here with the

503
00:29:49,530 --> 00:29:53,010
a better life for future generations.
You go from Sicily to space.

504
00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:56,530
Yeah. Two generations. Yeah, quite
amazing. I mean, that's unbelievable.

505
00:29:56,530 --> 00:29:57,530
I are the same age, right?

506
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:58,669
Yeah, exactly.

507
00:29:58,670 --> 00:30:02,110
Yeah, like a month apart, I think. So we
watched the moon landing when we were

508
00:30:02,110 --> 00:30:04,610
kids. I remember watching it. Do you
remember watching it? Oh, absolutely.

509
00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:05,930
It changed my life.

510
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:07,850
It definitely changed my life.

511
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,960
Growing up in Scotland in the 60s and
70s meant growing up between two

512
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,740
superpowers in the middle of the
greatest pitting contest in human

513
00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:18,740
Cold War.

514
00:30:19,420 --> 00:30:22,460
And nothing said Cold War like the Space
Race.

515
00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:26,880
Wait, I feel we can do better. Let's do
it again.

516
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,760
The Space Race!

517
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,320
There you go.

518
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,720
The US and the Soviets went back and
forth. Rockets, satellites, capsules,

519
00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:47,080
monkeys, Sputnik, the Vomit Comet, even
a few ex -Nazis. Do you get to be an ex

520
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,240
-Nazi? I don't know if I feel that's
true. Anyway, we both threw everything

521
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,500
could at cosmic dominance.

522
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:57,760
But in 1969, America hit a gut punch to
those commie bastards.

523
00:30:58,580 --> 00:31:02,360
The moon landing.

524
00:31:03,860 --> 00:31:08,640
650 million people around the world
watch the moon landing. That's like Katy

525
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,760
Perry's Instagram.

526
00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:16,020
This was a global calling card, a
statement that American greatness was

527
00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:19,540
and that I could be part of it. At least
that's how I saw it.

528
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,260
This is the face of a young man who is
about to manifest his own destiny.

529
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,140
When I saw that, I was six years old,
you know, like as you were going on

530
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:31,240
that summer of 69.

531
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,820
Even the build -up to it, you know,
seeing those guys, they're just like,

532
00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:36,460
know, have the American flag on their
arm.

533
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:40,100
And they just, to me, symbolized
everything that was good.

534
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,500
I wanted to be an American. I didn't
think I could be an astronaut.

535
00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:47,460
Let me ask you something. Because those
guys, the moon guys, the guys who walked

536
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:52,300
on the moon, they commented that the
feeling was, throughout the world, it

537
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:56,180
an American accomplishment, but in a lot
of other countries helped and

538
00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:59,260
participated. Did you see it that way?
Did you feel like...

539
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,780
Oh, these are American.

540
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:04,020
Oh, did you feel like it's... We're
doing it. Do you know what, in Scotland,

541
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,340
what we were saying was, you know
Armstrong's a Scottish name?

542
00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:12,280
Really? Armstrong's a Scottish name,
aye. So basically, it's Scotland landing

543
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,360
the moon. You know, technically. We're
all immigrants. Technically. It was a

544
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,100
about, you can't go directly to the moon
from Scotland, you have to go to

545
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:23,640
America first, which I think is still
true. Maybe it's because America might

546
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,100
some way symbolise...

547
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,800
the whole world because everybody came
from somewhere else well that's what i

548
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,420
think america i think america is a great
accomplishment for humankind i mean

549
00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:36,600
look even now when people are still
bleeding on about you know the problem

550
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,140
and that everybody's still trying to get
here yeah you know yes

551
00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:44,960
your

552
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:51,640
family every

553
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,300
immigrant family which is like most of
us you have to take those risks and

554
00:32:56,300 --> 00:33:02,240
becomes becomes part of the the american
spirit right the the idea that we're

555
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,460
going to get on a boat and we're going
to go to a country we've never seen

556
00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:08,180
before the whole family's going or just
the kid is going they said goodbye and

557
00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:11,680
that was it you know they didn't go back
but leaving that all behind with

558
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,040
whatever possessions you had and coming
to a new place and that becomes part of

559
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,540
the spirit right because that in some
ways i think we're pointing to the

560
00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:22,470
here that's easier than what they did To
take that risk, that was a true risk.

561
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:26,850
And so that's the kind of people that
came here, and I think as a result were

562
00:33:26,850 --> 00:33:27,970
able to accomplish these things.

563
00:33:28,770 --> 00:33:29,770
It's amazing.

564
00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:43,210
As an immigrant from Europe, nothing is
more emblematic of the journey to

565
00:33:43,210 --> 00:33:46,750
becoming an American than the Statue of
Liberty and Ellis Island.

566
00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:52,290
Hi. Still have the gift shop plastic
statue of liberty I got when I was a

567
00:33:52,550 --> 00:33:54,210
Here it is. Isn't that cool?

568
00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:55,730
I adore her.

569
00:33:55,970 --> 00:33:59,370
No, you can't have it. If I was going to
give it to anyone, I'd give it to my

570
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:00,870
dear friend Adriana.

571
00:34:01,130 --> 00:34:05,930
She is a second -generation Italian
-American, a best -selling author and an

572
00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:10,350
acclaimed director and screenwriter
whose work focuses on immigrants and

573
00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:16,889
descendants. She is also the 2025
recipient of the Ellis Island Medal of

574
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,060
I can think of no better way to see that
lady than with this lady, and have her

575
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:24,440
show me... My God, are you so excited?

576
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,800
Yeah, a little bit.

577
00:34:27,139 --> 00:34:29,040
There she is. It's a hell of a thing.

578
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:30,038
Isn't it?

579
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,340
Every morning, I go over to the water
and I look at her.

580
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,760
Every morning.

581
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,080
It just reminds me, like, I'm so lucky
I'm here at all.

582
00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:43,020
My immigration story doesn't come
through here, but it feels like it. How

583
00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:44,020
times have you done this?

584
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:46,620
Every time a cousin comes to town, I
take him.

585
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,239
I've never done that.

586
00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:49,860
No. No.

587
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,860
Oh, my God, I get to show you
everything.

588
00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:00,820
There's life in this place.

589
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:02,100
There's a spirit.

590
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,600
Look at this.

591
00:35:04,140 --> 00:35:06,220
This is what my grandparents saw.

592
00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:08,400
This is where they lined up.

593
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:10,240
Kills me.

594
00:35:10,340 --> 00:35:11,340
Kills me.

595
00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:23,970
Between 1892 and 1952, over 12 million
immigrants came through this

596
00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:30,170
place. In fact, 40 % of Americans today
can trace their roots back to this

597
00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:36,770
island. Megan, my wife, Megan's
grandfather, Andrew Wallace Cunningham,

598
00:35:36,770 --> 00:35:42,850
orphan in Edinburgh, and he came through
here.

599
00:35:43,580 --> 00:35:45,140
He's like a little kid.

600
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Can you imagine the story that got him
from Edinburgh in?

601
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,740
Imagine being a street kid and getting
that idea that I've got to get to

602
00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:57,100
America. And to be a wee Scottish boy on
your own. Oh, my God, all by yourself

603
00:35:57,100 --> 00:36:00,240
and just on that ship and just trying to
make a friend.

604
00:36:00,860 --> 00:36:05,180
When do we eat? I'm in my 60s and I was
kind of uncomfortable in the 10 -minute

605
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:06,180
ride from Manhattan.

606
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:09,380
I was like, oh, it's cold.

607
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:10,720
I need a sandwich.

608
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,700
I imagine my grandparents standing here.

609
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,820
That, like, says America to me.

610
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:23,300
That's the future.

611
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,960
Getting online for your family, for your
future, for the children that are yet

612
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,960
unborn.

613
00:36:29,860 --> 00:36:34,900
And whoever was at that table, keep your
name, change your name, misspell your

614
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:36,940
name. That all happened in the air.

615
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:41,900
And just imagine how they felt standing
here.

616
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,500
It's a cathedral.

617
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:49,530
Yes. It's not some empty promise. It's a
cathedral to a real promise. An

618
00:36:49,530 --> 00:36:50,530
opportunity.

619
00:36:51,170 --> 00:36:56,110
Opportunity. Opportunity there is. If
you work hard, man, you'll make it.

620
00:36:56,110 --> 00:36:57,110
it is.

621
00:36:59,270 --> 00:37:00,270
That's America.

622
00:37:03,150 --> 00:37:04,190
What was the name?

623
00:37:04,570 --> 00:37:05,990
Bonicelli. Bonicelli.

624
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,580
And it's really a beautiful thing to
just come and read the names, because

625
00:37:10,580 --> 00:37:16,320
there's a name, then there's a person
and an identity and a place in history.

626
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,460
mean, Max Glickman.

627
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,140
Welcome to America, Max. Max Glickman.
Hey, how you doing? Welcome.

628
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:23,620
Look at this one.

629
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,240
Philomena Barbieri Giuliano.

630
00:37:26,660 --> 00:37:28,040
I don't think she's Scottish.

631
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,000
I just want to see Annie Ferguson.

632
00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:32,100
There we are. There's my Pete.

633
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,680
Did you find them?

634
00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:38,920
Robert Ferg. Yeah, yeah, there's tons of
them. Don't you just feel like the

635
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,920
magic of it?

636
00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:40,980
Yeah.

637
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:44,580
I need to get a selfie with Megan's
grandfather.

638
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:46,660
Here they are.

639
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,880
You got your family? Uh -huh.

640
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,700
Andrew Wallace Cunningham, there he is.
You got him? I got him. Don't tell me

641
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:56,500
we're, like, on either side of the wall.
Is that perfect? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

642
00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:59,980
You're right there. We didn't even plan
this. This is amazing.

643
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,700
These people in that big circle, they
made that.

644
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:10,920
They built it. They made that.

645
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,320
That's unbelievable. Isn't that great?

646
00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:19,100
Yeah. Well, my grandfather made the
shoes. Yeah, what? I'm making the shoes

647
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:21,180
all the people who make that. He made
the shoes and the boots, and my

648
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:22,300
grandmother made the clothes.

649
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,060
I'm going to come through here. Oh, my
God. I'm going to make all the shoes for

650
00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:30,540
all the people. Please, the wall is
weeping. I can't take it.

651
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,280
So, the word immigrant.

652
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:37,730
You've said this. It's a... It's a word
of honor.

653
00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:42,690
It is a word of honor. And a word of
honor comes with a bond.

654
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:45,190
And it's a sacred bond.

655
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:50,530
You come here and you own it too.

656
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:52,530
It belongs to all of us.

657
00:38:53,610 --> 00:38:58,330
Not one group, not one family, not one
person more than another.

658
00:38:58,590 --> 00:39:00,450
It belongs to all of us.

659
00:39:00,830 --> 00:39:03,390
Bring the good stuff from where you're
from.

660
00:39:03,950 --> 00:39:09,790
Leave the crap Where it was this is the
new world bring your heritage bring your

661
00:39:09,790 --> 00:39:12,530
culture bring it but bring an open mind
because it's America

662
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,000
You ready for this?

663
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:17,230
I came to America with the crazy dream
of making it in show business. And guess

664
00:40:17,230 --> 00:40:18,590
what? I still might.

665
00:40:19,290 --> 00:40:20,290
It's America.

666
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:22,110
And this dance keeps going.

667
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:28,850
In the meantime, if I do nothing else on
this show, I want to illuminate for my

668
00:40:28,850 --> 00:40:33,890
fellow Americans the thrill and
exhilaration that comes from joining the

669
00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:34,890
the free.

670
00:40:35,330 --> 00:40:38,230
If this sounds trite, I don't give a
rat's ass.

671
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:46,040
I believe America truly is the best idea
for a country that anyone has ever come

672
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,040
up with so far.

673
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,100
We're from everywhere.

674
00:41:02,510 --> 00:41:06,550
We're not just a nation. We're not just
an ethnicity. We're a dream of justice

675
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:09,630
that people have had for thousands of
years.

676
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:15,830
America made us, and we made America.

677
00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:33,970
Back to Scotland then.

678
00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:38,010
We're Shrek and Fiona, we're here all...

