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This is hell in the cell. The structure
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you get in there, there is nowhere to
go, nowhere to run when that door is cut

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and padlocked. There's got to be a cane!

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The fact that I'm tougher

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than nails, the fact that I'm the man
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He just called me Taker.

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If Shawn Michaels back then was on fire,
I probably wouldn't piss on him to put

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him out.

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Shawn Michaels, take one.

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I grew up in a small town about two
hours north of St. Louis, Missouri.

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I was a very good football player. I was
going to play in the NFL, and I

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suffered a very serious knee injury,
which dashed those hopes.

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And all my life, all I ever wanted to
do, ever since I was a little kid, all I

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wanted to do was play sports.

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I mean, that has always been my dream,
was to be a professional athlete.

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And there is the monster!

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I was able to achieve that through WWE
and through...

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Kane character. And he connects with a
clothesline off the top. That feeling of

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being able to touch people emotionally,
it's just the greatest gift that anyone

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could have.

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I never thought that that could happen
for a person like me.

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I always thought that in the end, I had
these dreams of...

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Being a professional athlete and being a
famous person and all this stuff, they

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were dreams.

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Never dreamt that those dreams could
actually come true.

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Who you admire, Elvis, Jim Morrison, you
know, James Dean, which are all the

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idols in my life. And there's something
common about the way they all live their

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life or whatever. They were all very
rebellious, reckless kind of people.

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And it's been glorified a little bit,
and maybe it's not right.

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But the world is full of those kind of
people, and I'm one of those people.

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Where Shawn Michaels and I are today and
where we were at back then on a

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personal level, it's...

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taking a complete 360. And if Shawn
Michaels back then was on fire, I

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wouldn't piss on him to put him out.

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It's not like there was a bunch of
animosity. It's just we were just two

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different personalities. I was very
outgoing, which is to say I was overly

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obnoxious. And Mark's always been a very
quiet, laid -back kind of guy. Very,

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again, we always say cool -handled, very
Clint Eastwood -ish type.

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And I was not.

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But... That being said, there's no one
that I would rather be in the ring with

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than Shawn Michaels.

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When it came to bell time and we were
looking across the ring at each other,

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knew there was going to be something
really special.

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You know, Shawn was way ahead of his
time in

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the things that he could do
athletically.

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You take Sean back in 97, and you can
plug him in and what they're doing right

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now. Wouldn't miss a beat.

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The gift that Sean has, he knows how to
get you invested in the story.

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That's what's setting him apart, his
psychology and his ability to tell a

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story the way it needed to be told.

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When I first came in, I was this scary
monster that everyone was terrified of.

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remember vividly making my entrance and
looking and seeing kids crying.

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And, you know, I think everybody has a
little bit of darkness in them anyway.

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And I think I tapped in on that, and it
kind of became cool to have that dark

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element to your personality.

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Prior to this entire sort of storyline
between The Undertaker and Shawn

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Michaels, there had been times over the
years when people within the WWE

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had presented, how about a Shawn
Michaels heartbreak kid against The

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And of course, at the time, Vince
McMahon was very emphatic about those

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never be in the ring with each other.

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You have these two strong personalities,
Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker, that

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when they collide, and what is the
finality of that?

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Because you have to keep both guys
whole. You have to keep both of those

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attractions strong.

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There was sort of a situation arose to
where, again, Mark and I were just sort

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of the only two people left.

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We found ourselves, I think, in a place
creatively where, well, we'll just put

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it out there for one pay -per -view.

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It just went so well

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that, you know, we continued to go with
it. And then I got with Hunter and

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Degeneration X.

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Then it began to make a little bit more
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That we as a group, Degeneration X,
could have what it took collectively to

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The Undertaker down.

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Here you have this killer, monster,
unstoppable force.

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And you're going to put him in this cell
with this obnoxious, arrogant

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character. You just guess, oh, this is
going to be great. He's finally going to

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get his.

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So I think that's kind of what
manifested was the fact that, oh, my

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Undertaker is going to have no mercy on
Shawn Michaels, and there's no way

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anybody can help him. He is going to get
lit up.

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life when you mess with me. You're going
to have to pay the price. You're going

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to have to come like these kids to the
dentist.

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My own personal dentist, Isaac Yankum,
DDS.

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Next.

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My career before Cain, dunk.

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I've been given opportunities, but they
weren't anything that I could really do

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very well.

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The character Isaac Yankum, DDS.

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And then you had the Diesel character.

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Diesel!

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Which was an imitation, and those never
work out very well.

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I thought that was going to be it.

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I thought that I would have a very short
career and one not noteworthy of

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anything. So here you have this guy, and
Vince told him, if you want to be

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successful in this business, you have to
have a little bit of...

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What that meant was you have to be able
to go out there, and sometimes you have

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to do the right thing for yourself
because it's the right thing for the

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Glenn was just a really nice guy.

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Scary.

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You know, could rip your head off
without blinking an eye probably, but a

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genuinely nice human being.

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And that's great, but sometimes in this
business, and especially in that era,

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you had to be able to stand up for
yourself, and you had to have a little

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it.

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And by the time that Kane came along, I
think he had realized that, and he

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knew that it was his last chance.

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Despite my early on failures, I'd always
kept a good attitude, and I was a

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professional.

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I think that Vince looked at me as
someone that, you know, he thought that,

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you know, this kid can do something.
It's just a matter of getting him in the

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right spot.

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So in spitballing, a lot of times as
you're going through creative, you throw

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out some wild ideas and you start
telling stories maybe to convince

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to convince everybody else in the room.

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And I got on a roll and I asked the
question, I said, hey.

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What if the undertaker had a brother?

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No one knew about this brother.

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And his name was Cain.

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He was in a fire at the funeral home
where you were growing up and has been

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ever since.

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And years later now, his brother Cain
had grown up and

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had this deep -seated resentment.

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that his brother, the Undertaker, had
never come to check on him. Didn't care

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he was dead or alive, because that's the
story that he had been told all these

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years. I remember they wanted initially
to name the character Inferno, which,

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like, Inferno, that ain't good at all.
But Bruce Pichard had always been a fan

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of the name Kane. In fact, Undertaker
was originally... A man named Kane.

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And Bruce's son is named Kane.

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As a matter of fact, my son's first
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uh baby picture when when we got them
home i actually put the cane mask on him

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the infant just you know and and took
that and when i brought it into

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and showing everybody hey here's my
daughter and here's my son gay mask

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the concept that i had for Kane was,

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it was like Michael Myers or Jason, you
know, this strange killer who had

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escaped and basically in coveralls or
whatever.

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And so when I got the first concept of
the Kane costume, I was scratching my

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head because it looked like a superhero.

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So I called Vince and discussed it with
him. And that's when one of the times

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that I realized that the guy's a genius
because he says, well, you know, yeah,

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we could do that.

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But if you think about it on a deeper
level, he's like.

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Kane has been scarred. So his ego has
been shattered.

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So he's overcompensating for the
shattered ego by becoming a superhero.

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I'm like, well, I never thought about
that. It sounds good to me. Vince is

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the operative word is cool.

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He wanted everything about Kane to be
cool.

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And then I'm sitting there and I'm
watching Raw and Paul Bearer starts

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about Kane.

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Just like everybody in this room.

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I'm thinking, this is really going to
happen.

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Because they're already investing TV
time into character.

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So I'm watching all this and I'm like,
wow. This is a big deal because they're

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telling a story and they're actually
getting into the mythology of The

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Undertaker. I was with Ping last night.

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He's waited 20 years to face his
brother.

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I think it was really intriguing
storytelling. You know, the back story

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everything that we would eventually find
out as we went through all this, I was

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happy for Kane to get that opportunity.

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I have to express myself.

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If I want to grow my hair long, believe
me, I'm growing my hair long.

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And then the story sort of shifted to
Undertaker and Shawn Michaels and we

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forgot about Kane.

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I want to put a couple tattoos on my
body.

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I'm going to put tattoos on my body.

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Many of my interviews on live television
in those days were pretty pointed.

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If I want to pierce my belly button, I'm
going to pierce my belly button.

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I didn't meet around the bush a lot.
People, for the most part, knew where I

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stood on a number of different issues.

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I want to come out here and look like a
blithering idiot on live TV.

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Believe me, I'm going to do it. Why?

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Because I can.

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One time in particular, I was just
sitting around in the back, just sort of

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being silly, stuffing things in my
shorts and whatnot, and someone made

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offhanded remark of like, you don't have
the balls to go out there like that. I

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went out there with this gauze in my
shorts, clearly misrepresenting myself.

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Just really overly, you know, grinding
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And then I was jumping up in J .R.'s
face. He was livid.

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I told you once.

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And I've told you a thousand times, if I
go down, I'm bringing everybody with

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me, and I'm going out in a blaze of
glory.

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We had a point to where, into my promo,
stop, Undertaker comes up, he says his

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lines.

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Hello, boy.

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Welcome to my own personal hell.

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All that idea, oh, I'm scared and all
that, and we end it.

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And, of course, so I did all of that,
knew where we would cut to the

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break, and then on my own, just for fun,
off camera, Undertaker!

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I went on and said something to the
effect, and, you know, some of the

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Undertaker were so big and bad and
tough, he'd come out here and face me

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now. Counted to ten, thus, you know, in
some people's mind, burying the

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Undertaker. Man, this guy pissed me off.

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I didn't say a word to Sean when he came
back. I was so mad.

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I was so angry. I didn't want to say
something that I would regret. I didn't

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want to get into a confrontation with
Sean right there.

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So I got home from the road, and I got a
call from Vince.

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You know, he read me the riot act, fined
me $10 ,000.

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But in hindsight.

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Vince came back and said, you don't have
to go. Damn, that's attitude, pal.

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That's attitude right there. That's what
we need more of that.

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There were a lot of times in my career
where I angered a lot of people, but I

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think on that particular evening, I
angered absolutely every person.

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You know, I mean, he had that knack,
even in our world, to kind of even add

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extra spark by doing things like that.

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There were a lot of things that Sean did
that I didn't agree with, but I knew,

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always knew, bottom line, when the bell
rang, everything was going to get paid

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off.

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Anywho, it was an eventful time just
getting to Hell in a Cell.

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I can remember mentioning to people
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Years, you know, prior in the Omni, the
old George Championship Wrestling, Buzz

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Sawyer and Tommy Rich had this cage that
had a top on it. So, of course, in my

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mind, I asked the WWE, you know, and
Vince and I'm like, hey, can we do

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something where it's not the standard
cage match, but we can put a top on it.

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And they said, well, let us play with
it. And, of course, they ended up doing

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what the WWE does, which is taking sort
of something simplistic and then turning

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it into what is now.

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Hell in a Cell.

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It was explained to me that the Hell in
a Cell concept, that was actually built

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for Kane.

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Because everybody who created it wanted
this idea where it was Shawn Michaels

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and Undertaker inside a structure that
it was all about them. And no one could

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even think that anyone else would get
involved.

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It was a pretty ominous looking deal. It
was really cool. And to know that you

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were... about to be, you know, involved
in something historic within the

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business, which was cool, too.

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You walk in and you go like, holy cow,
that is awesome. My first thought was, I

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got to get on top of that.

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And that's exactly what came out of my
mouth. And, of course, everybody's like,

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well, no, you can't get on top because
the whole point of it is the cage.

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You know, it's to keep you two in.

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It's just that, oh, I'm getting on top
of that. That's one thing I had

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learned by that time in my career.

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There is only one first at something.

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And if you were the first at something,
you know, it's history in the making,

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baby.

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Bad Blood was in St. Louis, which is my
hometown.

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I went and visited my parents and saw a
friend of mine. And my buddy offers to

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give me a ride to the arena.

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And my folks lived in a small town about
an hour and a half north of St. Louis.

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So my friend pulls up, and his wife had
taken the good car.

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So he pulls up.

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And, I mean, calling it a clunker was
giving this thing way too much credit.

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was an awful save. It looked like the
fenders were about to fall off.

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So we're driving along, and we're
talking and stuff.

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And, again, it's about an hour and a
half trip.

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And smoke starts coming out of the
stereo.

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And I look down. I'm like, dude, your
car's on fire.

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And he's like.

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Oh, man.

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And so he started to wave the smoke.

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And then all of a sudden, there's a pop.

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And now we're rolling down the road.
We're no longer being powered.

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And he pulls over. And now I'm hot.
Because, Mike, you are kidding me.

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This is my big break.

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And I'm going to miss the whole thing
because of this car.

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He calls a friend of his who is actually
on the way down to this show. And this

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was hours now. It's like 9 o 'clock.

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But I'm thinking I'm going to be late.

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We'd get in the other car, and I was
actually still early getting into the

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because I had left so early.

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Needless to say, the day didn't quite
start like I had wanted it to.

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Something that has never happened before
is just about to happen, gentlemen.

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Hell in the cell. The cell itself is
being lowered. Very tough.

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And I have never seen an apparatus ever
quite like this.

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This was The Undertaker versus Shawn
Michaels.

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I mean, this could have been the main
event.

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at WrestleMania.

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It was that big.

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And they went out and they had a
WrestleMania caliber match.

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With The Undertaker.

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With Shawn Michaels.

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We're just about ready for hell in the
cell.

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You're in there with The Undertaker.

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Kane's debuting.

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My job is so simple and it's to get beat
up.

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Just how can you take the best in the
world. That's fun.

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Michael's got to get on a bicycle and
ride.

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Oh!

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Michael just literally bounces off the
canvas.

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And his feet just hit the roof of the
cage on that back body drop from the 6

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1⁄2 Undertaker. Look at this.
Undertaker.

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From the ring post to the cell. Pillar
to post. Pillar to post.

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That's hell in a cell right there. The
match itself was just unbelievable.

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You just have Shawn at his very best
just getting the tar beat out of him.

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then, of course, you have The Undertaker
at his very best beating the tar out of

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Shawn.

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It's methodical. It's a physical
dissection of Shawn Michaels.

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Undertaker, no hurry.

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This is just prolonged in the agony.

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And I think The Undertaker likes it.

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He did.

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He definitely took a ass -kicking that
night. The cell itself just presented

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more opportunities for me to brutalize
John.

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And, man, I did.

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Michael's is like a rag doll.

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The cell was supposed to keep everybody
in and everybody out. It's not supposed

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to be used as a weapon.

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Michael's body must feel like it's been
in a car accident.

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Oh!

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Michael's hammering a light on the
undertaker. Look at that.

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Michael with an opportunity.

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Could it be that Michael somehow pulls
off a victory here tonight?

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On the top of the steps.

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We needed to pull that off. If people
were going to think of him, he might

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some kind of chance of getting out of
it.

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Michaels with the cover.

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Don't do it. He did it. No.

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Michaels coming right back.

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I have a moment where we're trying to
get him out. And in that process, I'm

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getting out. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a
minute.

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Michaels is out.

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Michaels is out of the cage.

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Bleeding just, it ups the intensity in
anything. And especially,

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I had the ability, rightly or wrongly,
to bleed a lot.

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John Michaels has been lacerated.

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Michaels with a kick to the groin area.

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The cameraman is...

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I knew that I wanted to take a backdrop
up there. I knew I wanted to get press

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slammed.

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The steel girders are spinning. They're
about to break.

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And I'm like, holy crap.

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Then, you know, you just kind of
visualize it in your head.

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Think about being that high in the
arena, and then, you know, it just kind

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steamrolled into what I'd call a
beautiful train wreck.

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And then, of course, I know I want to,
you know, I got to go through a tape.

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And then you're just up there and
looking, okay, can I make it?

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No!

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This may come as a huge shock to people,
but I'm not a big thinker.

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My God, he made me broken in half.

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Somebody's got to help him. I've never
seen anything like that in my life.

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And especially when I'm out there.

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I mean, most of what I did was
instinctual. It just sort of came.

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I don't try stuff. I don't practice
stuff. I just look and I go, yeah, I'll

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it. How in the hell is Michael standing?

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Absolutely ungodly. I have never seen
anything like this in my life.

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Nothing like that had ever happened
before.

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And then they keep on going.

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And you're like, man, this is something
else.

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Oh, no.

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It was all, you know, watching as a
student of the game and also as a

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fan. This is textbook of how you have a
match like that. I mean, it was as close

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to perfection as you could possibly get.

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Just the flow of the match. It started
in fifth gear, and it only kept going,

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I'm really proud of that match.

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Nobody, nobody envisioned what was going
to come out that night.

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Oh, my God. Wait a minute. It's Paul
Bearer.

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It's Paul Bearer.

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And that's got to be, that's got to be
Kane.

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That's got to be Kane.

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I was really nervous because, I mean,
you know, this was my big break.

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And also, this is The Undertaker and
Shawn Michaels.

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And I just didn't want to mess it up.

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The size of this human being.

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Or is that a human being?

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That was the first time when I walked
through the curtain. It was the first

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I'd ever heard Kane's music.

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Of course, I didn't get to hear Vince
yelling, that's gotta be Kane.

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That's gotta be Kane!

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But it was, I mean, the crowd went nuts.

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Taker was big then.

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Taker was, I don't know, 6 '10",
probably 305 at that time.

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Glenn was gigantic.

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And then Kane comes out with his huge
self and his black and his red and he's

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just so ominous looking.

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After this battle that had gone on and
on and on, Kane just comes out and rips

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the door off the cell.

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Glenn Jacobs Kane is one strong son of a
bitch. Oh, it was a gimmick door.

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They had a rig.

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It's a heavy ass door.

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The costume, the entrance, and all of
that was just so awe -inspiring.

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It's the only way we could have ended
that match because we did so many

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things. You have to top it off with
something equally or more impressive.

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And the debut, and the flame, and his
presence is what carried that.

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The eyes, you look into someone's soul.

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And you may not see someone for years,
and they may look a lot different many

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years later, but when you look into
their eyes and there's a connection, you

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feel that.

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So when Undertaker is first confronted
by Kane, we're all looking and

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who is this? What is this?

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And that one reaction by the Undertaker,
when Undertaker looks into the eyes of

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Kane and realizes, you're my brother.

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That's what made it special.

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There was so much backstory there that I
had to tell.

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Without saying anything. My thought
process, not being a technically trained

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actor, I was just trying to live the
story in my head.

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People had really never seen The
Undertaker in a human sense, I guess.

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You know, it's always been this cold,
calculated killer.

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Now you get to see a little glimpse of
something deeper.

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Boom. He tombstones me.

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This is shocking.

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That happens. Out he goes. I drape the
arm.

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And it's just, you could hear the gasp
in the building of like, oh.

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When it goes like that, and you know
you've hit it out of the park, it is a

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grand slam home run when they're like,
oh, my God, he's going to win.

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That's one of the greatest feelings that
you can have is when you go out there

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and you know that you've done something
that's going to stand the test of time.

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And we knew right away that we'd gone
out there and done something really,

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really special.

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00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:28,540
I don't say this to be conceited or
whatnot, but we knew there were not a

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people in the business that could have
done what we did that night.

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00:31:32,860 --> 00:31:36,080
I'm biased, but it was the greatest
debut in history.

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00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:56,040
Wow, Shawn Michaels from the 90s to
today, two different people.

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00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,920
Shawn was difficult to deal with.

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00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:09,340
But at the end of the day, he was the
best. Shawn Michaels was the best.

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And no one can ever take that away

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from him.

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00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:26,840
Today, I think Sean has just grown up
like the rest of us and let what was

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inside come out.

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00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:33,320
I look back on all those things now, and
I wouldn't change any of them or

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00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,160
anything in the world because there
aren't many people in this line of work

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live with the joy in their life and the
peace in their heart more than I do. So

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00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:46,500
I don't think I'd change the path I've
traveled, not one bit.

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00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:50,380
Everything that...

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00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,740
I've been able to accomplish or achieve
in my career really is based off of what

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happened at Bad Blood in St. Louis.

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00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:01,380
And all that is based off the fact that
a guy named Mark Collier, the

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00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:03,280
Undertaker, was willing to take a chance
on me.

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00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,880
A very, very impressive person is Glenn
Jacobs.

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There has not been anybody that has been
more loyal.

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00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,960
more trustworthy, more dependable than
Kane.

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,440
I mean, I can't say enough about the
human being. The wrestler, yes,

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Phenomenal in -ring entertainer, a
legend, all that. But as a human being,

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far exceeds even his success in the
ring.

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00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,820
A few years ago, I was going to a
concert in Knoxville, and I was out in

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00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:39,840
concession area.

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00:33:40,510 --> 00:33:45,610
getting a soda for my wife and me, and
this lady comes running up to me with

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daughter. She wanted to show me a
picture on her phone, and it was a

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00:33:49,390 --> 00:33:50,390
me and her son.

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And I'd made a visit to Children's
Hospital recently, and that was the

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00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:05,250
picture. She told me that was the last
picture that she'd ever taken of her

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00:34:13,230 --> 00:34:14,250
And it was with me.

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00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:22,130
So, you know, she wanted to thank me for
doing that. And, you know, the

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greatest blessing that my career gave
me, you know, wasn't the fame and, you

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00:34:27,409 --> 00:34:28,790
know, money and all that stuff.

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00:34:29,670 --> 00:34:36,489
It was the fact that, you know, you have
the ability, if you use it, you know,

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00:34:36,489 --> 00:34:42,010
to at least in some little way bring joy
to people and touch them emotionally.

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00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,199
And that's incredibly powerful.

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00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:51,219
And that's another thing. I don't know
why I was given that, but it's something

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00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:54,679
that I don't take for granted and
something that I value very much.