1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,100 Tonight, all 16 competitors are out of Africa and live with us in Los Angeles, 2 00:00:12,180 --> 00:00:16,360 the first time they've all been together since their days in Kenya. We have an 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,180 audience of fans, friends, and family this evening, particularly joyful, the 4 00:00:20,180 --> 00:00:23,800 family of Ethan, our ultimate survivor and million -dollar winner. 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,640 Congratulations. Thanks. Congratulations. 6 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:41,650 The floor is yours. Do you want to give a big shout out to Diane and mom and 7 00:00:41,650 --> 00:00:42,489 your brothers? 8 00:00:42,490 --> 00:00:44,210 Hi, guys. Thanks for coming. 9 00:00:44,610 --> 00:00:45,610 Thanks for coming. 10 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:49,570 They're real happy. They're really happy. They're flying home first class. 11 00:00:49,570 --> 00:00:50,570 the favorite. 12 00:00:51,070 --> 00:00:52,910 What do you think the difference was? 13 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:54,430 Oh, man. 14 00:00:54,730 --> 00:01:00,590 I don't know. You know, everyone, even though I'm up here the winter, you know, 15 00:01:00,590 --> 00:01:02,250 I couldn't have gotten here without everyone else. 16 00:01:02,530 --> 00:01:07,290 And the difference, a little bit of luck involved and making. 17 00:01:08,860 --> 00:01:12,340 lasting alliances and sticking to your alliances and sticking to your your gut 18 00:01:12,340 --> 00:01:19,060 and I'm not your gut. Sorry Yeah, exactly but just 19 00:01:19,060 --> 00:01:25,140 having faith in others when when there were so many times when things could 20 00:01:25,140 --> 00:01:30,020 gone different directions and you know we stay true and I think That's what got 21 00:01:30,020 --> 00:01:30,939 me to the end. 22 00:01:30,940 --> 00:01:34,100 Let me come back to in a moment, but just in case some reminders are needed 23 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:39,290 me do a few reintroductions With us tonight in the order they left Africa 24 00:01:39,290 --> 00:01:44,390 poster worker Diane Ogden, Deputy Sheriff Jesse Camacho, dentist Carl 25 00:01:44,390 --> 00:01:47,830 Belacchione, and the Harvard -based hugger Linda Spencer. 26 00:01:49,550 --> 00:01:53,410 Bartender Silas Gaither was the first one booted out after the surprising 27 00:01:53,410 --> 00:01:55,810 switch. Then came Lindsay Richter. 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,940 You haven't seen all of her until you've seen her audition tape, which you will 29 00:01:58,940 --> 00:01:59,940 see a bit later. 30 00:02:00,340 --> 00:02:01,500 Don't look at me. You made it. 31 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Lindsay was followed by the bean lover, Clarence Black. 32 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,540 Then the members of the jury. 33 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:10,639 First juror, first whatever. 34 00:02:10,900 --> 00:02:11,900 Kelly Goldsmith. 35 00:02:12,940 --> 00:02:15,140 The ever flamboyant, Brandon Quinton. 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,360 His movie date, Frank Garrison. 37 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:22,740 Then Lil' Kim, Kim Powers. 38 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,100 And the T -Bird, Teresa Cooper. 39 00:02:25,740 --> 00:02:27,400 And, of course, our final four. 40 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:29,920 The goat farmer, known as Big Tom, Tom Buchanan. 41 00:02:30,940 --> 00:02:31,940 Grandmaster Lack. 42 00:02:32,140 --> 00:02:33,720 And Fenton Berg. 43 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:35,600 Big Kim, Kim Johnson. 44 00:02:36,180 --> 00:02:37,520 And Ethan Zorn, now a millionaire. 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,640 So what do you think the difference was? That you had the most respect that you 46 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:45,180 did as mom said, that you could play with integrity and come home and not be 47 00:02:45,180 --> 00:02:46,180 ashamed of what you'd done? 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,680 I think that had a lot to do with it. But, you know, I think a lot of people 49 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,679 played that way. 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,560 And I think it's a very important part of the game. 51 00:02:54,940 --> 00:02:59,280 You know, you don't have to be evil and backstabbing and a villain to do well in 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,340 this game. You can be yourself, you can play yourself, you can play fair, you 53 00:03:02,340 --> 00:03:04,300 can try as hard as you can and just hope for the best. 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Kim, why'd you decide to do a one -on -one with Ethan rather than Lex? 55 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:16,320 As I said, it probably was the hardest decision that I've ever had to make 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,680 because I really, really... 57 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:22,520 respected and cared about them both. I mean, when you're out there as many 58 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,620 as we were together, you get to know people pretty well. 59 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:32,100 And I guess what it finally came down to was I don't really think that I could 60 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:33,480 have won against either one of them. 61 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:37,500 And so I had to make a decision. 62 00:03:38,820 --> 00:03:45,580 I felt that Lex had won so many things already and not, I mean, obviously not 63 00:03:45,580 --> 00:03:46,580 the million, sorry, Don. 64 00:03:48,780 --> 00:03:54,280 I guess what it finally came down to is if I couldn't win it, who did I next 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,080 feel deserved it the most? 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,540 And you didn't think you could prevail against Lex? No, I did not. You know 67 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Because honestly, and I know what we've seen, but Lex was very well 68 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:13,280 liked among all of us. A lot of the comments that he made that seemed 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,140 were not made to us. They were made. 70 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,820 without our being able to hear it. And so I think that... Kelly may disagree 71 00:04:20,820 --> 00:04:21,799 with you a little bit. 72 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,060 But Kelly's won both. 73 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,400 I mean, I really, I mean, I could name four people right now that I know would 74 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,640 have voted for Lex instead of me. 75 00:04:30,220 --> 00:04:34,040 So I think, and maybe instead of a 5 -2, it might have been a 4 -3. You know, I 76 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,960 don't know. But I didn't feel any more confident. 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,220 Lex, you said at the end, I've worked so hard to get this far. 78 00:04:42,580 --> 00:04:44,040 In retrospect, was... 79 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:46,860 Was your undoing being out in front too much? 80 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,980 You know, I didn't know any other way to play the game. I mean, all of us went 81 00:04:50,980 --> 00:04:51,980 out there. We're all competitors. 82 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,900 When you're put in this competition, sure, you can think, well, maybe I 83 00:04:56,900 --> 00:04:58,200 pull back or I should hold back here. 84 00:04:58,620 --> 00:05:02,640 But out there, the only thing I knew was how to just push as hard as I could, 85 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:07,000 try to kick ass as much as I could, and to win. I mean, that was whether it 86 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,760 might have been strategically not the best move. 87 00:05:09,290 --> 00:05:12,530 The only thing I could think of out there to do, the only thing I could do 88 00:05:12,530 --> 00:05:15,030 go out there to win, and to win as much as possible, and to win everything. 89 00:05:16,230 --> 00:05:20,830 Thomas, is it satisfying to have come so close, or frustrating for the same 90 00:05:20,830 --> 00:05:21,830 reason? 91 00:05:22,370 --> 00:05:26,090 Well, it's frustrating. I'd rather won. I'd rather be over that million dollars. 92 00:05:27,070 --> 00:05:29,390 He's going back first class, and I'm going to walk. 93 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:36,350 Was there a moment when you thought, after you made the final four, that, 94 00:05:36,350 --> 00:05:37,950 can win this thing? Did you think you could? 95 00:05:38,490 --> 00:05:39,490 I sure did. 96 00:05:41,350 --> 00:05:44,310 Obviously, a mental challenge wasn't what I was hoping for. 97 00:05:46,270 --> 00:05:49,750 You know, I'm a goat farmer, not a rocket scientist. 98 00:05:51,630 --> 00:05:56,810 But, you know, honestly, you know, I felt real good. And we had a strong 99 00:05:56,810 --> 00:06:03,730 alliance. It proved all the way through with Ethan, Lex, and me. And I felt real 100 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:06,590 confident. And, you know, but. 101 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:11,930 If you fail more than me, I can leave it. Let me go to the jurors. 102 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:15,630 Did you all have your minds made up before the speeches? Well, not you, 103 00:06:16,470 --> 00:06:19,810 Obviously. I did. I actually did. I was totally going to vote for Ethan. There 104 00:06:19,810 --> 00:06:21,030 was no question in my mind. 105 00:06:21,290 --> 00:06:23,810 And just because he dissed you on your own question? Yeah, I just wanted to 106 00:06:23,810 --> 00:06:27,090 a little bit at Frank and tell him I was mad that, you know, he beat me out by 107 00:06:27,090 --> 00:06:31,110 three days. And then, you know, Ethan's like, you don't deserve it. I was like, 108 00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:32,630 how can I vote for that? 109 00:06:35,330 --> 00:06:36,510 And Kelly, the number? 110 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,580 Help me out. Come on. And, you know, and to be honest, Ethan's right. I didn't 111 00:06:40,580 --> 00:06:43,280 want to put in the mental effort. I didn't think they deserved it. They 112 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,660 butt out, and I said, you take this. Pick a number. 113 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:48,760 And that's how you came up with it? Yeah, I just knew that it would make 114 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,699 squirm a little bit. 115 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:50,700 Yeah? Mm -hmm. 116 00:06:51,060 --> 00:06:55,440 Frank, Kim, T -Bird, what did you want to hear them say at the end? Or was your 117 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,100 mind pretty made up? 118 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,120 I think for me, my mind had been made up a long prior, you know, earlier weeks. 119 00:07:02,180 --> 00:07:07,650 And I also talked to Ethan, and I said, Ethan, if it can't be me, then you're my 120 00:07:07,650 --> 00:07:09,650 man. So didn't I tell you that early on? 121 00:07:10,170 --> 00:07:13,030 So I knew way ahead. 122 00:07:13,270 --> 00:07:16,950 Yeah. Kim, you said it was a hard vote for you, right? Real hard. 123 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:22,230 Ultimately, what swung it to Kim Jay? I loved Kim Jay's answer. I don't know. 124 00:07:22,650 --> 00:07:24,690 It was really sweet. 125 00:07:25,550 --> 00:07:31,150 You know, it was a very hard decision, but Kim impressed me. She is 56 years 126 00:07:31,150 --> 00:07:33,650 old, and she was out there just kicking some serious butt. 127 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:39,920 I'm 30, and it was really hard on me. And to see her as a female, she was a 128 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,140 model. She was a role model. 129 00:07:41,420 --> 00:07:44,760 And Frank, for you, what was the determining factor? Why Ethan? Why not 130 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,800 mind was made up. I met Ethan all the way as a soccer player. 131 00:07:48,020 --> 00:07:51,460 His interest in working with children, you know, helping them come up through 132 00:07:51,460 --> 00:07:55,120 there, I just made up my mind. It was just a common denominator there, and it 133 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,120 was a quick vote. 134 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:02,900 Silas, I remember saying early on in this game that the game was 90 % luck, 135 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:03,900 skill. 136 00:08:04,730 --> 00:08:08,030 having prevailed, what equation would you give it? 137 00:08:08,790 --> 00:08:10,890 Not 90 % luck. I don't think that. 138 00:08:11,670 --> 00:08:13,330 I think there is a lot of luck involved. 139 00:08:14,630 --> 00:08:19,770 The whole switcheroo thing, I was unlucky for some people, like Silas. 140 00:08:20,090 --> 00:08:23,970 He was a fish out of water once he came over to us, and that could have been any 141 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:30,110 one of us. And it was just unlucky for him. In that sense, luck is a huge part 142 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:31,110 of it. Did the best player win? 143 00:08:31,530 --> 00:08:36,150 I think so. Jim, did the best player win? I think so. Lex? I do. 144 00:08:36,929 --> 00:08:37,929 Tom? 145 00:08:38,750 --> 00:08:40,230 I thought I was the best. 146 00:08:44,910 --> 00:08:45,910 Hey, guys. 147 00:08:47,810 --> 00:08:54,230 If I can't win, I'll... Yeah. Okay. Well, but really, I had an alliance with 148 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:56,110 Lex and Ethan. Yeah. 149 00:08:56,350 --> 00:08:59,100 And... If it wasn't me, I wouldn't be here. 150 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,360 Well, let me tell you something. When we come back, we'll talk about alliances. 151 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,080 We'll talk of friends and enemies, mate, in the heat of competition. Stay with 152 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,800 us. Our Survivor Africa reunion continues. 153 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,660 Live from Los Angeles, right after this. 154 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,320 Go ahead, the floor is yours. 155 00:09:51,860 --> 00:09:55,880 I thought I was going to be a star, what I are. 156 00:09:57,500 --> 00:09:58,980 Said I are, I ain't. 157 00:10:01,340 --> 00:10:02,340 Well, you are. 158 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,660 It's a lot of fun. Yeah? A lot of fun. I met 15 different great friends, and I 159 00:10:07,660 --> 00:10:10,160 don't know what else I could ask for. Well, you know, we kind of slugged this 160 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,340 section, friends and enemies, and I know there are no enemies here. 161 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,580 But you made an interesting comment, Ethan, when you said out there you're... 162 00:10:17,770 --> 00:10:20,090 You're always surrounded by people, but you felt so alone. 163 00:10:20,510 --> 00:10:23,470 I did. Is that because you couldn't trust anybody? 164 00:10:24,370 --> 00:10:27,730 Well, there's always, no matter how tight our lines was, no matter how good 165 00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:30,850 friends you are with everyone, there's always that little bit in the back of 166 00:10:30,850 --> 00:10:34,270 your mind where, you know, these people could be playing me, you know, they 167 00:10:34,270 --> 00:10:37,710 could turn on me at any minute, so you can never fully, I never felt I could 168 00:10:37,710 --> 00:10:41,570 fully trust anyone. Yeah. Because, you know, ultimately everyone wants to win. 169 00:10:41,850 --> 00:10:44,550 You're the last one standing. Diane, you were the first one off. 170 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:46,430 Is that embarrassing? 171 00:10:48,140 --> 00:10:49,280 Oh, yeah, no. 172 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,280 I mean, I was kind of relieved to go first, you know, being sick. 173 00:10:54,540 --> 00:10:59,620 It was too hard for me, and it didn't really bother me. If you hadn't taken 174 00:10:59,620 --> 00:11:00,960 map, you think you would have lasted longer? 175 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:02,500 Yeah. 176 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:08,480 I think it was the water that, you know, that got dumped. Yeah. 177 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,320 You were the first one to faint. 178 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,940 Jessie, you were the first one to lose. But I won. 179 00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:14,180 Yeah! 180 00:11:14,860 --> 00:11:15,880 To lose your breakfast. 181 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,140 Why? Because you were unprepared? 182 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,500 You know what? I'm not really sure. I started drinking the water from the gore 183 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:26,280 as soon as we got on the bus. And my stomach was just not taking it right. 184 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Yeah. But, yeah, I puked. Oh, well. 185 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:29,900 That's life. 186 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,600 What were you going to say, Carlos? 187 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:37,160 In Diane's defense, I mean, y 'all, she was picked out of like 50 ,000 people. 188 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,440 So I wouldn't say that was... 189 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:42,060 You know, disappointing at all. I'm very proud of Diane for being here. Very 190 00:11:42,060 --> 00:11:43,039 nice. No doubt. 191 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,040 Very nice. 192 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:48,700 Okay. All right. 193 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:55,400 But Diane's plight brings us to the first cringe moment of the series, which 194 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,400 the bean. 195 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,480 Okay? 196 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Tom, if I had a gun, I'd shoot you? 197 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:04,100 Did I steal your beans? 198 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:08,060 Isn't that a little over the top? 199 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:21,090 I wasn't talking about saying I'd say not men. 200 00:12:21,890 --> 00:12:25,730 You know, that was just a comment. If he didn't shoot him, I would cut his 201 00:12:25,730 --> 00:12:30,770 throat. Yeah, maybe. 202 00:12:31,110 --> 00:12:33,850 Clarence, why'd you take it so well? I mean, I'll be honest with you. There are 203 00:12:33,850 --> 00:12:36,150 a lot of folks sitting at home going, yo, I would not take that. 204 00:12:37,259 --> 00:12:38,640 Hey, man, that was crazy. 205 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:42,160 You know, because I'm just thinking, man, I'm hungry. Like, I lost all 206 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,480 to think rationally after that. You know, all I could think, all I could 207 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,480 was my, 208 00:12:47,060 --> 00:12:50,100 all I could know, I was just a victim of hunger. I was just starving. 209 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:52,880 So, you know, I ate it and it wasn't until I was sitting there and these 210 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,480 was yelling at me. And honestly, the reason I didn't go up is because I was 211 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,480 thinking about food. 212 00:12:56,580 --> 00:12:59,340 Like, I just ate them beans and I wanted more, man. But I couldn't believe 213 00:12:59,340 --> 00:13:02,400 everybody was that mad. Like, I ain't seen white people that mad since OJ got 214 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,400 acquitted. 215 00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:20,470 On behalf of Men Clarence, probably Men Clarence, after that, we worked 216 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:21,630 hand in hand. 217 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:24,550 Clarence took it like a man. 218 00:13:24,770 --> 00:13:25,870 I don't know. 219 00:13:26,210 --> 00:13:32,530 But to walk away from here after having hard feelings and all the comments we 220 00:13:32,530 --> 00:13:38,130 made, Men Clarence is probably as tight as anybody on the show. 221 00:13:38,390 --> 00:13:40,250 Brandon and Frank, can you say the same thing? 222 00:13:40,830 --> 00:13:42,670 We're good friends. Yeah, we're friendly. 223 00:13:47,340 --> 00:13:48,680 I mean, come on. 224 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:51,200 That antipathy was pretty real, yeah? 225 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,740 I mean, I'd rather be gone in three days than have anybody think I sided with 226 00:13:55,740 --> 00:14:00,660 Frank. And I was gone in three days. But, yeah, it was real out there. You 227 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:03,980 when you spend that much time with somebody that is so different to choose 228 00:14:03,980 --> 00:14:05,680 you and you hate them so much. 229 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,980 Hate's a strong word, isn't it? It's good. It's a good word, though. 230 00:14:11,709 --> 00:14:13,750 Yeah, it's a real word when you're out there. 231 00:14:14,390 --> 00:14:17,870 And, you know, then I came home, and he put his daughters on the phone. And, you 232 00:14:17,870 --> 00:14:21,030 know, then you'd see him for real people. But out there, no, I couldn't 233 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:24,370 him. He wasn't the only one, but just one of many I didn't like out there. 234 00:14:26,130 --> 00:14:30,030 Frank, he used the word hate. I mean, how would you characterize your feelings 235 00:14:30,030 --> 00:14:31,030 for Brandon out there? 236 00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:34,470 Brandon's just another human being. I coexisted with him. I don't agree with 237 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:35,970 lifestyle, but, you know. 238 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,920 Yeah, but he wasn't asking you about his lifestyle. 239 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:41,660 No, but I mean, he just existed. Besides, there was no hunting allowed 240 00:14:41,660 --> 00:14:42,740 I couldn't do anything about it. 241 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,340 Did you dislike him intensely as he disliked you? 242 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,320 Not at all. We just needed to keep our distance from space. 243 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,640 Yeah. 244 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,260 People were assuming that. 245 00:14:56,540 --> 00:15:00,280 Well, I mean, look, Carl was up there nodding his head behind you because Carl 246 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,360 and Linda had problems. 247 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,500 And T -Bird, too, had problems with your whole tribe. Had I not taken Frank to 248 00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:07,540 the waterhole for a break, he would have killed him. 249 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,300 You know, you guys, you had a split along generational lines. 250 00:15:13,580 --> 00:15:17,280 You were the Geritol gang, right? 251 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:21,800 You're aware that Kim said you guys could have handled it better, that as 252 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,960 older people, you should have found a way to work together. 253 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Linda? 254 00:15:31,050 --> 00:15:32,230 And that was our downfall. 255 00:15:32,530 --> 00:15:35,750 And that's why there are no Samboro people sitting in the front row. 256 00:15:36,790 --> 00:15:40,530 She's right. T -Bird, should you have handled it better? Right. So we tried to 257 00:15:40,530 --> 00:15:44,690 pull it together. And then when the tribes were swapped and we went over to 258 00:15:44,690 --> 00:15:50,310 Buran, then once we got Brandon and Kim and Frank, there was still a division 259 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:52,470 that we tried our best to pull together. 260 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:56,690 I think the tribal elders, we like to say tribal elders. 261 00:15:58,010 --> 00:16:00,830 We did our best to try to pull it together. 262 00:16:01,070 --> 00:16:03,710 Yeah. Lindsay, why were you so nasty to them? 263 00:16:05,070 --> 00:16:09,990 Excuse me. Can you address this to all of us? Okay. Why were you so nasty to 264 00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:12,550 them? You know what? What really, I mean, you know, there's so many 265 00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:16,190 stories of what happened out there. But what really happened is I think. 266 00:16:16,890 --> 00:16:20,470 people just didn't really understand what was going on most of the time. And 267 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:23,690 things just kind of happened so fast, and you thought you were doing the right 268 00:16:23,690 --> 00:16:27,010 thing one minute, and then the next minute you were questioning it. And for 269 00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:32,850 I mean, not to mention the emotional outbursts and the whining, I just think 270 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:36,150 panicked a lot, and I became paranoid, and I just wanted to stick with the 271 00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:37,970 people who I felt like were going to protect me. 272 00:16:38,270 --> 00:16:42,390 And then it just turned nasty, and nobody wanted it to, and nobody meant 273 00:16:42,390 --> 00:16:44,530 to happen. It just did, and there was just no turning back. 274 00:16:44,730 --> 00:16:45,730 It was not... 275 00:16:45,980 --> 00:16:47,260 intentional by any means. 276 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,260 But it was, you know, you couldn't change it. There was no way to go back. 277 00:16:51,260 --> 00:16:54,680 was too far into it. Is there anybody here who didn't have an alliance of some 278 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,860 sort and didn't try for one? 279 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Jesse, 280 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,399 you didn't? 281 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,420 I've never watched Survivors. My first time I was watching a full Survivor. So 282 00:17:04,420 --> 00:17:08,500 was totally unprepared. Six days, adios, I'm gonna go. You didn't try for one 283 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:11,420 either, huh? No, it's like, it's a funny thing because after I stole that food, 284 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,240 just nobody liked me for a little while. 285 00:17:15,399 --> 00:17:16,399 Hey, 286 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:19,040 look, we're going to disappear for a moment. When we come back, we'll talk 287 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,740 the hardships of Africa. 288 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:26,140 But first, as we get into a break, let's head to New York City where I'm told 289 00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:30,580 every Thursday a group of Ethan's friends gather to watch Survivor and 290 00:17:30,580 --> 00:17:32,660 on. Tonight they're gathered at a bar and they are cheering. 291 00:17:53,930 --> 00:17:54,930 I think I can do it. 292 00:17:55,230 --> 00:17:57,790 You want me to be on Survivor. 293 00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:11,130 Lens, we watched the original upstairs. 294 00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:12,350 What were you thinking? 295 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:14,830 I was painted. 296 00:18:16,850 --> 00:18:19,170 You're asking me why I did it? Yeah, I'm sorry. 297 00:18:19,390 --> 00:18:21,050 To be honest, I had no idea. 298 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,020 how to get on a show like this. I never really watched it. I didn't know what 299 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:27,900 the videos were like. And my friends and I got together, and they said, you 300 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,160 know, you're a great athlete. Let's show all your athletic endeavors, what you 301 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,100 do, snowboard, mountain bike, you know. And three days before it was due, I 302 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:36,100 said, that's lame. 303 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:38,960 They're not going to care if I mountain bike. So my friend Hannah took out her 304 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,040 body paints and painted flowers on me and said, you know, you've got to shock 305 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,720 them. You've got to stand out. And I guess it worked. It did. 306 00:18:48,020 --> 00:18:50,360 Is it fair to say that Africa was harder than you thought it was going to be? 307 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:52,810 Absolutely. Would that apply to everybody here? 308 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:54,090 Yeah. 309 00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:59,550 I mean, I'm an athlete. I compete regularly in a tough sport, and nothing 310 00:18:59,550 --> 00:19:02,070 prepare you for this. 311 00:19:02,510 --> 00:19:06,710 I'm looking at a quote, and Lex, it was you, who said, not a single one of us 312 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:09,570 came here thinking the danger was going to be real. 313 00:19:09,950 --> 00:19:13,310 Well, we didn't. You know, I remember telling some of my friends before I 314 00:19:15,690 --> 00:19:18,890 They knew that I had applied for the show, and I said, you know, Survivor, 315 00:19:18,890 --> 00:19:19,890 like reality TV. 316 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:21,410 Half of it's reality, half of it's TV. 317 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:25,630 But I think all of us were universally shocked to find out that the animal 318 00:19:25,630 --> 00:19:27,350 danger was completely real. 319 00:19:27,550 --> 00:19:31,950 And those challenges, I mean, we all came out there thinking, oh, these are 320 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:32,889 going to be fun games. 321 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:34,570 They're going to be like little Olympic games or whatever. 322 00:19:34,790 --> 00:19:39,090 But when we did that boulder challenge, that thing was so damn heavy. And when 323 00:19:39,090 --> 00:19:42,930 we started pushing it, and that thing started rolling on our legs and... 324 00:19:43,450 --> 00:19:45,950 Like, you know, if one of us falls and the thing rolls over our head, it will 325 00:19:45,950 --> 00:19:47,510 crush my head like a walnut. 326 00:19:48,030 --> 00:19:51,890 We could die out here. I mean, it sounds so dramatic, but God, the challenges 327 00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:52,890 were nuts. 328 00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:56,930 You can see right... Oh, there it takes... It just took him out. 329 00:19:57,970 --> 00:20:04,570 The game was so brutally hard. And when I came home, the first thing I told all 330 00:20:04,570 --> 00:20:08,810 my friends was, you know, when I was able to talk about it was, it was so 331 00:20:08,810 --> 00:20:12,710 harder. You guys have no idea. And as a Survivor fan, before I went on the show, 332 00:20:13,290 --> 00:20:16,430 I mean, we used to watch them say, this is hard, but it's TV, it's just 333 00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:20,910 television. It's hard. And the threats were real. I mean, Kim, you were crying 334 00:20:20,910 --> 00:20:22,590 when you heard those lions outside of Boma, yeah? 335 00:20:22,990 --> 00:20:23,909 Yes, I was. 336 00:20:23,910 --> 00:20:28,310 Yeah. You could see them. I mean, you know, you could see their eyes and you 337 00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:31,230 could see their threats. But I'm sure most people believe that if that lion 338 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:34,770 gotten within three feet of that fence, there'd have been a Mark Burnett rocket 339 00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:35,770 coming through. 340 00:20:36,410 --> 00:20:38,550 Mark Burnett was sleeping very soundly in his bed. 341 00:20:39,230 --> 00:20:42,010 And there'd have been a big hole in the ground where the lion was. Not true? 342 00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:46,590 That lion was three feet from us. I mean, it was Ethan and I, the picket 343 00:20:46,790 --> 00:20:49,570 and the lion. And that's for real. And that's pretty scary. 344 00:20:50,090 --> 00:20:53,450 You know, I don't know what anybody would have done if that lion decided to 345 00:20:53,450 --> 00:20:54,009 the goma. 346 00:20:54,010 --> 00:20:58,350 I don't know. But I can tell you, from our perspective, there was no one else 347 00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:01,170 around but me and Ethan and the lion. And then, of course, Big Tom to the 348 00:21:01,170 --> 00:21:03,750 rescue. But it was scary. It was very scary. 349 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:08,430 Always Big Tom to the rescue. Always Big Tom. I think we have a question for Big 350 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:11,790 Tom up here. Bring it on. This question is for Big Tom. How's your boil? 351 00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:15,060 Brand new. 352 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,520 I'm in good shape now. 353 00:21:16,740 --> 00:21:18,520 It's busted, gone, forgot about. 354 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:22,120 It was ugly. It was disgusting. 355 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:23,499 The bull? 356 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:24,500 Yeah. 357 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,460 But let's talk a little bit about some of the hardships you went through. I 358 00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:34,680 mean, it wasn't just the harshness of the environment, but also, Kel, I mean, 359 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:36,900 how difficult was it that there was no... 360 00:21:37,260 --> 00:21:40,760 No relief from it. There was no place where you can go to water and just hang 361 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,900 out. There was no place to just take a walk and be by yourself. 362 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,180 It was really intense. It was a 24 -hour -a -day game. You couldn't even really 363 00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:50,840 afford to sleep because people were up talking about you all night. You had to 364 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,400 be on your toes constantly. 365 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,280 And, yeah, it was a wild ride, but I think we all definitely enjoyed it. 366 00:21:58,260 --> 00:22:02,980 Frank, I saw where you said that if this had been in Chile, you wouldn't have 367 00:22:02,980 --> 00:22:04,260 gone. I mean, the allure was. 368 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,100 Africa was definitely the allure. But like everybody here would agree, it was 369 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:12,580 tough. And day two, I know speaking for my tribe, we were struggling. I mean, it 370 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:13,580 was 100 degrees. 371 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,540 We had no water. We just got fire. 372 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,220 And it was all real. 373 00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:20,680 CBS wasn't there handing out water bottles. Did you think they would be? 374 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,880 Absolutely not. 375 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,160 Guy in front of you called it vegetarian survivor. 376 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,340 He thought it was pretty easy. Frank? Yeah. 377 00:22:26,750 --> 00:22:28,490 He thought it was easy. I don't think he thought it was easy. 378 00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:30,810 It was challenging. It was very challenging. 379 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:32,510 Do you disagree, Frank? 380 00:22:32,750 --> 00:22:37,910 Frank? The part with me was the mental part of it, the people part of it. The 381 00:22:37,910 --> 00:22:41,350 people part of it. I disagree a lot. The animals were there. I didn't care about 382 00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:42,910 the animals. I didn't care about the heat. 383 00:22:43,130 --> 00:22:45,110 No, because you were up there talking to the elephants. I didn't like that. 384 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:48,850 Did you write that? The people, the stress on the people because you just 385 00:22:48,850 --> 00:22:52,690 couldn't blow my fuse or do something. Did you really think you could talk to 386 00:22:52,690 --> 00:22:53,690 that elephant? Absolutely. 387 00:22:53,890 --> 00:22:55,990 You can communicate with anything if you try hard. Really? 388 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,080 You had it going, huh? 389 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,260 Speaking of relief, go 39 days with no toilet paper. 390 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,220 No relief. 391 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,420 Want to repeat that for me? 39 days without toilet paper. 392 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:10,680 That's the hell about relief. 393 00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:13,920 Really? I mean, tough. 394 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,440 I mean, everything, everybody thinks it was all day in when, you know, just 395 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,900 simple little everyday things you take for granted, just brushing your teeth, 396 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,840 toiletries, or just, 397 00:23:27,250 --> 00:23:28,970 Everyday things is a challenge. 398 00:23:29,610 --> 00:23:32,130 There's not only hardship, but the place is somewhat magical. 399 00:23:32,350 --> 00:23:36,110 And you two got a taste of it when you did the goat bartering, right? I mean, 400 00:23:36,130 --> 00:23:38,950 it's a cultural experience that's got to rank high on your list, yeah? 401 00:23:39,690 --> 00:23:40,690 Definitely. 402 00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:41,890 Unbelievable. 403 00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:46,050 You know, you might be surprised to learn that we did a little research on 404 00:23:47,050 --> 00:23:52,070 And about what a goat is really worth in Kenya. No, this is the truth. 405 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:56,270 As I recall, you got... What, $1 ,600 for the two of them? 406 00:23:56,990 --> 00:23:57,769 $1 ,800? 407 00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:58,609 I don't know. 408 00:23:58,610 --> 00:23:59,610 Around there. 409 00:23:59,990 --> 00:24:04,670 You'll be happy to know that when we inquired, a goat is worth between $700 410 00:24:04,670 --> 00:24:10,450 $900. You got top dollar. You got top dollar. But the french fries that we 411 00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:12,770 bought, those aren't worth like $1 ,400. 412 00:24:13,550 --> 00:24:16,970 We paid $1 ,400 for those. French fries and a couple of drinks. 413 00:24:17,230 --> 00:24:21,750 He had a topper of experience, though, when you went to Wamba Hospital, yeah? 414 00:24:22,730 --> 00:24:26,950 I mean, it sounds so cliched, but it was really life -changing. I mean, when we 415 00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:30,370 were watching it, watching the episode last week, I don't know how many times 416 00:24:30,370 --> 00:24:34,370 phone rang. It was off the hook when I got the truck. And I was so excited. But 417 00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:37,870 I got to see that hospital. I mean, it was just, it was really, I mean, it 418 00:24:37,870 --> 00:24:41,910 really opened my eyes. And to get that experience and to see it from the inside 419 00:24:41,910 --> 00:24:43,330 out and to meet somebody. 420 00:24:44,170 --> 00:24:47,150 The doctor, the good Italian doctor there, who is really literally a living 421 00:24:47,150 --> 00:24:50,810 saint. I mean, you can't help but have that change you. And it's special to two 422 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:56,270 of your cast members, both of whom, Linda and T -Bird, lost a brother to 423 00:24:57,270 --> 00:25:00,330 It had to be a very special moment. Very special moment, yeah. 424 00:25:00,610 --> 00:25:05,310 In fact, once I was voted out and I had an opportunity to travel around with 425 00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:09,030 this health care clinic that focused on AIDS awareness and family planning, so I 426 00:25:09,030 --> 00:25:11,150 was fortunate enough to have close to two weeks. 427 00:25:11,949 --> 00:25:16,550 of traveling around with nurses who were caring for sick people. 428 00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:17,890 So it was very special. 429 00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:20,930 And, in fact, I saw when he was driving off in the ambulance, you had tears in 430 00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:21,869 your eyes, T -Bird. 431 00:25:21,870 --> 00:25:23,550 You were crying. You really wanted that. 432 00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:27,390 Well, no, actually, when they lifted up the back of the truck, in the first box 433 00:25:27,390 --> 00:25:29,650 I saw it said HIV test kit. 434 00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:33,970 All of a sudden I knew, you know, what it was and where they were going, and it 435 00:25:33,970 --> 00:25:37,470 was actually tears of joy because I knew that. 436 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,060 They were going to be put to good use, and they needed to be there. 437 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,600 And, of course, that Lex was the one that got to go. You know, unlike his 438 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,700 reputation through all this, he's a very sensitive, wonderful guy. 439 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,120 And to think that he was going to be representing us, if it couldn't have 440 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:56,720 me, once again, it was perfect that he went. You know what's so sweet? That's 441 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,920 the first thing she told me when I got back. She said, I'm so happy you were 442 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:00,699 able to do it. 443 00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:04,000 And she truly, those tears were tears of joy that people were being helped. 444 00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:15,950 As we take a break here, as we take a break, watch this big time. Let's check 445 00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:18,490 on a party going on in Tom's hometown, Rich Valley, Virginia. 446 00:26:25,650 --> 00:26:32,550 You should put me on Survivor, and let me tell you why. 447 00:26:33,150 --> 00:26:37,910 On the application, you asked if we had any body art or tattoos, and I do. I 448 00:26:37,910 --> 00:26:39,210 have a small red rose tattoo. 449 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,860 But you have to put me on the show to find out where it is. 450 00:26:42,260 --> 00:26:43,440 It's under the bubble somewhere. 451 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,640 Oh, Kim, there's wet, wet woes. Where is it? 452 00:26:58,540 --> 00:26:59,540 Big Tom knows. 453 00:27:03,950 --> 00:27:04,990 I kiss, but I don't tell. 454 00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:08,190 The question is, does Sandy know Big Tom knows? 455 00:27:08,450 --> 00:27:09,790 Yeah, we talked about it last night. 456 00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:12,430 She's not too upset with me. Okay. 457 00:27:13,170 --> 00:27:14,089 Everything's all right. 458 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:16,030 Go ahead. I'm sorry. Don't let me stop you. I said no. 459 00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:19,990 She said you had to be on the show, so I can't tell her about it. 460 00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:24,730 Okay. How conscious, when you're out there, are you of how you're being 461 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:25,730 portrayed? 462 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:29,310 I mean, is it an omnipresent thing, or do you think about it just every now and 463 00:27:29,310 --> 00:27:30,310 then? Silas? 464 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:33,550 Boy. An interesting question. 465 00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:38,710 You know, you're really not. You're out there, at least from my point of view, I 466 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:41,950 was out there like Lex to play the game and to win the game, like Teresa. 467 00:27:42,210 --> 00:27:45,790 I mean, there's only one winner, you know, and you're out there to win. This 468 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:46,790 isn't a team game. 469 00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:51,510 And I think that, you know, you do different things to, you know, try to 470 00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:54,590 alliance. Yeah, but when you say stuff, do stuff. Are you aware of how it's 471 00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:57,810 being perceived back home and how it's going to haunt you when you leave there? 472 00:27:58,250 --> 00:28:00,950 No. Cameras were on you 24 -7. I was definitely aware. 473 00:28:01,170 --> 00:28:02,170 You were aware. 474 00:28:02,490 --> 00:28:03,490 I disagree. 475 00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:09,070 As long as we were, those cameras become so normal that you forget that they are 476 00:28:09,070 --> 00:28:12,530 there. You totally forget that they're there. And if you get real hungry, it 477 00:28:12,530 --> 00:28:13,830 don't matter. You don't need to eat. 478 00:28:15,210 --> 00:28:17,670 If you get really upset, it don't matter. 479 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:22,490 Brandon, you were aware of them, huh? No, I wasn't. You were. I totally, after 480 00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:25,490 like the first three days, I totally started forgetting that they were there. 481 00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:30,050 I would notice more when the still photographer was around because his 482 00:28:30,050 --> 00:28:30,869 made a noise. 483 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:35,910 It made this clicking noise, and I'd always jerk, and I would recognize that. 484 00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:39,830 Yeah, I mean, you're there so long that it's like second nature. But you weren't 485 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:40,950 there. You told me to make a statement. 486 00:28:41,270 --> 00:28:46,610 What was it? You know, I just hate 20 -something gay people on TV right now. I 487 00:28:46,610 --> 00:28:47,610 don't ever see myself. 488 00:28:48,150 --> 00:28:52,190 I see these really promiscuous people, and I don't know. They're caught up in 489 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,770 this whole party scene, and that's not me. 490 00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:57,480 I don't know, I thought it would be nice for somebody to see, you know, you can 491 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,000 be kind of flamboyant and have a good time and, you know, go out and not be 492 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,660 of those people and caught up in that lifestyle. 493 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:08,540 I didn't succeed with proving that point, but then I just looked like a 494 00:29:08,540 --> 00:29:09,640 bitch, but that's okay too. 495 00:29:25,179 --> 00:29:30,300 And Kelly, you said you went there because you didn't want to be viewed as 496 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:36,700 sexy one like Jerry or the sweet one like Elizabeth or the dumb one like 497 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,000 I mean, you wanted to be viewed as the smart one. 498 00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:42,980 No, it wasn't that I wanted to be viewed as the smart one. I just... 499 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,900 I've done a lot of research on gender in the media and the way women are 500 00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:48,900 portrayed, and oftentimes they fall into one of two roles. Either the villain, 501 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,220 like Jerry kind of came off, or, you know, the innocent ingenue like 502 00:29:53,740 --> 00:29:57,280 And my only goal was to play it like a real person, to just go out there, use 503 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,240 whatever skills I had, which are few and far between, and, you know, use my 504 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,840 intellect if I could, just hang around and have a good time. Yeah. 505 00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:06,480 Lindsay, you were disappointed in how you came off, right? 506 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,580 Yeah, I was a little. You know, I can't say I was disappointed. 507 00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:15,100 At first it was a little hard to take because, you know, I really didn't think 508 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:20,140 was mean or evil or did anything that would come across as bad. But I 509 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:23,920 had my moments out there. I was up and down and all around. I was emotional. I 510 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,020 said things I shouldn't have. 511 00:30:25,460 --> 00:30:28,620 You know, it was shocking at first because I made a lot of really good 512 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:32,460 and I just didn't think that I could ever be portrayed as being the villain. 513 00:30:32,860 --> 00:30:36,180 But, you know, I was emotional out there and emotions can get the best of you 514 00:30:36,180 --> 00:30:37,900 and they got the best of me and, you know. 515 00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:40,289 Laugh at it. 516 00:30:40,290 --> 00:30:41,229 It's okay. 517 00:30:41,230 --> 00:30:43,030 It's all right. Just let it all out. It's all right. 518 00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:47,090 We started this section talking about a tattoo. I'm going to finish talking 519 00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:48,670 about a tattoo. What's the fascination? 520 00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:53,610 God, I think much of the chagrin of my mom and dad, I started wanting them when 521 00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:57,610 I was like five or six years old. And I waited a while, but now I can't seem to 522 00:30:57,610 --> 00:30:58,609 stop. Yeah? 523 00:30:58,610 --> 00:31:02,450 And if River comes to you and says, Dad, I want to get one. He can get one as 524 00:31:02,450 --> 00:31:03,450 soon as he's 18. 525 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,120 Oh, we have an age limit. 526 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,520 That's the law. 527 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,100 Okay. If I had gotten half of my tattoos before I was 18, I'd probably be 528 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:15,580 covered with, you know, I'd have an Iron Maiden rocker on my chest, and, you 529 00:31:15,580 --> 00:31:17,680 know, I'd have a bunch of stuff I probably don't want. 530 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:22,360 If I'd started at six. No, no, no, no. 531 00:31:23,420 --> 00:31:26,880 Captain Kangaroo, big Captain Kangaroo on my chest. They look good. They look 532 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,020 good. Coming up, we're going to talk of images and perceptions and how often 533 00:31:31,020 --> 00:31:32,440 both can be at odds with reality. 534 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,940 But first, Big Tom gets his big break. Go ahead. Give us a sample. You gave us 535 00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:38,080 sample of Musical Talent Africa. 536 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,660 If you missed it, here he is with an encore. Big Tom, the floor is yours. 537 00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:47,940 Oh, God. Oh, God. Hey, bartender, fix me a potty. Oh, Big Tom, the lover's 538 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:52,360 potty. Open the window, close the door. Throw that curtain up. Bring me the bad 539 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,360 girl. 540 00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:06,460 In the gym, hours on the court, cardiovascular, 541 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,400 pump and iron, all stay number one. 542 00:32:19,260 --> 00:32:26,220 You know what, stand up for a second. I was 543 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:29,300 telling her earlier, now I've done all of these, you've got the best abs 544 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:30,760 ever had on the show. Give us a shot. 545 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,040 Give us a shot. 546 00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:42,380 Kim's got better abs? 547 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:43,700 Really? 548 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,880 Kim's better. 549 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:48,600 Show them off, baby. That's all right. Thank you. 550 00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:56,300 Look, before we proceed, let's do a preview. Having tested competitors 551 00:32:56,300 --> 00:33:00,260 in the African wilderness, the Australian outback, and the South China 552 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,640 Survivors on the move again, revving up for a fourth season of surprises. 553 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,320 Jeff Probst has the first look at what the next set of Survivors will face. 554 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,800 in a place both exotic and dangerous and about as far from civilization as one 555 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,800 can get. 556 00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:23,020 Soon, 16 new strangers will be abandoned in the middle of the most remote place 557 00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:27,620 on Earth, the Marquesas, part of Tahiti's mystical islands in the South 558 00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:30,420 thousands of miles from the nearest continent. 559 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:36,360 It is a place of rugged beauty, with magnificent waterfalls, towering banyan 560 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,740 trees, and a backyard home to some of the most exotic and dangerous sea life 561 00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:42,740 the world. 562 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:48,480 This island, with a history steeped in superstition and violence, will be their 563 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,900 home for 39 days. 564 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,960 And for the first time, these survivors will be given no rations whatsoever. 565 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:58,720 No food, no water, no fire. 566 00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:04,340 With only the barest of essentials, they must fend for themselves, utilizing the 567 00:34:04,340 --> 00:34:05,560 resources of the land. 568 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,280 and their own survival skills. 569 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,860 It is a difficult but not impossible task. 570 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,380 Everything they need to survive is on the island. 571 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,159 Their success will depend upon their ability to work together to create a new 572 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,639 society while battling the elements and each other. 573 00:34:24,139 --> 00:34:26,060 It is the ultimate challenge. 574 00:34:26,580 --> 00:34:33,480 Outwit, outplay, outlaugh until only one remains and emerges as the sole 575 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,480 survivor. 576 00:34:46,819 --> 00:34:48,620 Survivor Mark Hanson, give him a chance. Who'd go? 577 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:49,859 Oh, yeah. 578 00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:51,219 Come on. You'd do it all again? 579 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,460 They don't get their own food. 580 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,120 You'd do it all again? 581 00:34:57,690 --> 00:35:00,370 Let me ask you something. Does it help to have watched before? I mean, I ask 582 00:35:00,370 --> 00:35:05,410 that because Brandon, Kelly, Linda, arguably you three were the biggest 583 00:35:05,410 --> 00:35:06,730 fans of all going into this. 584 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:10,330 You see where we ended up. Well, that's why I'm asking. How much does it help? 585 00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:15,490 I don't think it does. I don't think it helps at all. I don't think it helps 586 00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:16,490 that you got Brandon out there. 587 00:35:16,730 --> 00:35:20,230 No way. The least you know, the better. I mean, I think that, you know, the 588 00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:23,510 overplanning, the constant, like, you know, racking your brain, like, what am 589 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:24,910 going to do? You know, building strategies. 590 00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:26,390 It kills you. 591 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:29,970 I mean, it totally kills you. I think going into it just kind of relaxed and 592 00:35:29,970 --> 00:35:33,970 like, ah, whatever, you know, kind of flying under the radar. I think that's 593 00:35:33,970 --> 00:35:36,330 pretty good. With all due respect, let me hear from the front row on this. 594 00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:38,509 Does it help? 595 00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:42,590 I think it helps. I watched the other survivors, not religiously, but I 596 00:35:42,590 --> 00:35:45,810 them, and it definitely helped me figure out, you know, which way to go. Maybe 597 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,670 you watched Rudy, right? 598 00:35:48,030 --> 00:35:50,970 And then you figured out just how to do it correctly, right? 599 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,840 There's Rudy with us today. 600 00:35:53,060 --> 00:35:54,060 Nice seeing you, Rudy. 601 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,660 We're going to come on back in just a little bit and close up here. First, 602 00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:01,380 take a break as our Survivor Africa reunion continues live from Los Angeles. 603 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,360 And you and your band got a new recording contract, yeah? That's right. 604 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,480 Lucky Dog, just got a record deal. How tough is it going to be now to return to 605 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,800 normal life? Do you still get stopped at the supermarket and everything else? 606 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,840 Yeah. It's wonderful. Really? You like it? It's a blast. It's so much fun. I 607 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,020 mean, people still get so excited. 608 00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:49,280 It's just so much fun. If you're a people person... 609 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,060 You know, a dream come true. If you're not a people person, oh, it's a 610 00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:56,440 nightmare. And you made friends to last a lifetime. Ethan, you have the first 611 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,440 word, you get the last. 612 00:36:57,940 --> 00:36:58,960 How are you going to spend the money? 613 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,040 Well, I owe my brothers probably about 27 years worth of birthday presents, so 614 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,680 think I'm going to start there. 615 00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:10,460 Yeah. But I'd like to, you know, I'd like to do something good. Have a dream 616 00:37:10,460 --> 00:37:11,379 come true. 617 00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:14,620 Yeah, it's a dream come true. Congratulations. Guys, congratulations 618 00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:17,900 you. Diane, Jesse, Carl, Linda, Silas, Lindsay. 619 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:25,260 Clarence, T -Bird, Kim, Frank, Brandon, Kelly, Big Tom, Lex, Kim J., 620 00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:26,260 and Ethan. 621 00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:27,420 Congratulations, guys. 622 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,140 I'm Brian Gumbel. The tribe has spoken. Good night.