1 00:00:07,969 --> 00:00:12,090 Tonight, all 16 competitors are out of Africa and live with us in Los Angeles, 2 00:00:12,110 --> 00:00:16,309 the first time they've all been together since their days in Kenya. We have an 3 00:00:16,309 --> 00:00:20,130 audience of fans, friends, and family this evening, particularly joyful, the 4 00:00:20,130 --> 00:00:23,750 family of Ethan, our ultimate survivor and million -dollar winner. 5 00:00:23,870 --> 00:00:24,970 Congratulations. Thanks. 6 00:00:25,170 --> 00:00:26,170 Congratulations. 7 00:00:38,570 --> 00:00:41,710 The floor is yours. Want to give a big shout out to Diane and mom and your 8 00:00:41,710 --> 00:00:43,230 brothers? Hi, guys. 9 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:44,430 Thanks for coming. 10 00:00:44,610 --> 00:00:45,610 Thanks for coming. 11 00:00:46,290 --> 00:00:49,490 They're real happy. They're really happy. They're flying home first class. 12 00:00:49,490 --> 00:00:50,490 the favorite. 13 00:00:50,610 --> 00:00:52,870 What do you think the difference was? 14 00:00:53,350 --> 00:00:54,350 Oh, man. 15 00:00:54,710 --> 00:01:00,510 I don't know. You know, everyone, even though I'm up here the winter, you know, 16 00:01:00,530 --> 00:01:02,250 I couldn't have gotten here without everyone else. 17 00:01:02,490 --> 00:01:07,250 And the difference, a little bit of luck involved and making. 18 00:01:08,620 --> 00:01:12,300 Lacking alliances and sticking to your alliances and stick into your your gut 19 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:19,260 and I'm not your gut. Sorry Yeah, exactly but having 20 00:01:19,260 --> 00:01:25,240 faith in others when when there were so many times when things could have gone 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,140 different directions and you know, we stayed true and I think That's what got 22 00:01:30,140 --> 00:01:30,919 to the end. 23 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,900 Let me come back to in a moment, but it's just in case some reminders are 24 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:38,580 Let me do a few reintroductions With us tonight in the order they left Africa 25 00:01:38,580 --> 00:01:44,340 are poster worker Diane Ogden, Deputy Sheriff Jesse Camacho, dentist Carl 26 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:47,760 Belacchione, and the Harvard -based hugger Linda Spencer. 27 00:01:49,620 --> 00:01:53,360 Bartender Silas Gaither was the first one booted out after the surprising 28 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,780 switch. Then came Lindsay Richter. 29 00:01:56,140 --> 00:01:58,860 You haven't seen all of her until you've seen her audition tape, which you will 30 00:01:58,860 --> 00:01:59,860 see a bit later. 31 00:02:00,260 --> 00:02:01,440 Don't look at me. You made it. 32 00:02:02,580 --> 00:02:04,400 Lindsay was followed by the bean lover. 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Clarence Black. 34 00:02:06,180 --> 00:02:07,500 Then the members of the jury. 35 00:02:08,020 --> 00:02:10,580 First juror, first whatever. 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Kelly Goldsmith. 37 00:02:12,740 --> 00:02:15,080 The ever flamboyant, Brandon Quinton. 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,300 His movie date, Frank Garrison. 39 00:02:20,860 --> 00:02:22,640 Then Lil' Kim, Kim Powers. 40 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,040 And the T -Bird, Teresa Cooper. 41 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,340 And of course, our final four. 42 00:02:27,580 --> 00:02:29,860 The goat farmer, known as Big Tom, Tom Buchanan. 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Grandmaster Lex. 44 00:02:31,940 --> 00:02:33,660 And Fandenberg. 45 00:02:34,350 --> 00:02:37,490 Big Kim, Kim Johnson, and Ethan Zorn, now a millionaire. 46 00:02:38,270 --> 00:02:41,570 So what do you think the difference was? That you had the most respect that you 47 00:02:41,570 --> 00:02:45,130 did as mom said, that you could play with integrity and come home and not be 48 00:02:45,130 --> 00:02:46,130 ashamed of what you'd done? 49 00:02:46,510 --> 00:02:49,650 I think that had a lot to do with it. But, you know, I think a lot of people 50 00:02:49,650 --> 00:02:50,589 played that way. 51 00:02:50,590 --> 00:02:53,510 And I think it's a very important part of the game. 52 00:02:54,890 --> 00:02:59,230 You know, you don't have to be evil and backstabbing and a villain to do well in 53 00:02:59,230 --> 00:03:02,290 this game. You can be yourself, you can play yourself, you can play fair, you 54 00:03:02,290 --> 00:03:04,290 can try as hard as you can and just hope for the best. 55 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:10,830 Kim, why'd you decide to do a one -on -one with Ethan rather than Lex? 56 00:03:12,810 --> 00:03:16,270 As I said, it probably was the hardest decision that I've ever had to make 57 00:03:16,270 --> 00:03:17,610 because I really, really... 58 00:03:18,860 --> 00:03:22,480 respected and cared about them both i mean when you're out there as many hours 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,280 as we were together you get to know people pretty well and i guess what it 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,680 finally came down to was um i don't really think that i could have won 61 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:39,580 either one of them and so i had to make a decision i felt 62 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:45,620 that lex had won so many things already and and not i mean obviously not the 63 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:46,620 million sorry but 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,240 I guess what it finally came down to is if I couldn't win it, who did I next 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,040 feel deserved it the most? 66 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,480 And you didn't think you could prevail against Lex? No, I did not. You know 67 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Because honestly, and I know what we've seen, but Lex was very well 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:13,220 liked among all of us. A lot of the comments that he made that seemed 69 00:04:13,220 --> 00:04:16,060 were not made to us. They were made. 70 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:20,800 without our being able to hear it. And so I think that... Kelly may disagree 71 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,020 with you a little bit. But Kelly's one vote. 72 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,360 I mean, I really, I mean, I could name four people right now that I know would 73 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,600 have voted for Lex instead of me. 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,000 So I think, and maybe instead of a 5 -2, it might have been a 4 -3. You know, I 75 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,920 don't know. But I didn't feel any more confident. 76 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,160 Lex, you said at the end, I've worked so hard to get this far. 77 00:04:42,540 --> 00:04:44,000 In retrospect, was... 78 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:46,820 Was your undoing being out in front too much? 79 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:50,940 You know, I didn't know any other way to play the game. I mean, all of us went 80 00:04:50,940 --> 00:04:51,940 out there. We're all competitors. 81 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,860 When you're put in this competition, sure, you can think, well, maybe I 82 00:04:56,860 --> 00:04:58,160 pull back or I should hold back here. 83 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,600 But out there, the only thing I knew was how to just push as hard as I could, 84 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,960 try to kick ass as much as I could, and to win. I mean, that was whether it 85 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,720 might have been strategically not the best move. 86 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,480 The only thing I could think of out there to do, the only thing I could do, 87 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,980 to go out there to win, and to win as much as possible, and to win everything. 88 00:05:16,180 --> 00:05:20,780 Thomas, is it satisfying to have come so close, or frustrating for the same 89 00:05:20,780 --> 00:05:21,780 reason? 90 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:24,280 Well, it's frustrating. I'd rather won. 91 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,040 I'd rather be over that million dollars. 92 00:05:27,020 --> 00:05:29,360 He's going back first class, and I'm going to walk. 93 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,300 Was there a moment when you thought, after you made the final four, that, 94 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:37,900 can win this thing? Did you think you could? 95 00:05:38,430 --> 00:05:39,430 I sure do. 96 00:05:41,290 --> 00:05:44,250 Obviously, a mental challenge wasn't what I was hoping for. 97 00:05:46,230 --> 00:05:49,690 You know, I'm a goat farmer, not a rocket scientist. 98 00:05:51,570 --> 00:05:56,750 But, you know, honestly, you know, I felt real good. And we had a strong 99 00:05:56,750 --> 00:06:03,690 alliance. It proved all the way through with Ethan, Lex, and me. And I felt real 100 00:06:03,690 --> 00:06:07,170 confident. And, you know, but. 101 00:06:08,460 --> 00:06:09,880 But you've failed more than me. 102 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,440 I can leave it. Let me go to the jurors. 103 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:16,140 Did you all have your minds made up before the speeches? Well, not you, 104 00:06:16,980 --> 00:06:17,979 Obviously. I did. 105 00:06:17,980 --> 00:06:21,020 I actually did. I was totally going to vote for Ethan. There was no question in 106 00:06:21,020 --> 00:06:21,779 my mind. 107 00:06:21,780 --> 00:06:24,320 And just because he dissed you on your own question? Yeah, I just wanted to 108 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,600 a little bit at Frank and tell him I was mad that, you know, he beat me out by 109 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,640 three days. And then, you know, Ethan's like, you don't deserve it. I was like, 110 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:33,160 how can I vote for that? 111 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:37,020 And Kelly, the number? 112 00:06:37,530 --> 00:06:41,070 Help me out. Come on. And, you know, and to be honest, Ethan's right. I didn't 113 00:06:41,070 --> 00:06:43,790 want to put in the mental effort. I didn't think they deserved it. They 114 00:06:43,790 --> 00:06:46,150 butt out, and I said, you take this. Pick a number. 115 00:06:46,650 --> 00:06:49,290 And that's how you came up with it? Yeah, I just knew that it would make 116 00:06:49,290 --> 00:06:50,209 squirm a little bit. 117 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:51,210 Yeah? Mm -hmm. 118 00:06:51,570 --> 00:06:55,950 Frank, Kim, T -Berg, what did you want to hear them say at the end? Or was your 119 00:06:55,950 --> 00:06:57,610 mind pretty made up? 120 00:06:58,150 --> 00:07:02,630 I think for me, my mind had been made up a long prior, you know, earlier weeks. 121 00:07:02,730 --> 00:07:07,880 And I'd also talk to Ethan, and I'd say, Ethan, if it can't be me, then um then 122 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:14,680 you're my man so didn't i take that early on so i knew way way ahead yeah 123 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:20,200 you said it was a hard vote for you right real hard ultimately what swung it 124 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:26,940 kim jay i loved kim jay's answer i don't know it was really sweet you know i it 125 00:07:26,940 --> 00:07:32,180 was a hard a very hard decision but um kim impressed me she is 56 years old and 126 00:07:32,180 --> 00:07:37,350 she was out there just kicking some serious butt and to you know I'm 30, and 127 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:40,630 was really hard on me. And to see her as a female, she's a role model. 128 00:07:40,890 --> 00:07:41,889 She's a role model. 129 00:07:41,890 --> 00:07:45,270 And Frank, for you, what was the determining factor? Why Ethan? Why not 130 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:48,310 mind was made up. I met Ethan all the way as a soccer player. 131 00:07:48,530 --> 00:07:51,970 His interest in working with children, you know, helping them come up through 132 00:07:51,970 --> 00:07:55,630 there, I just made up my mind. It was just a common denominator there, and it 133 00:07:55,630 --> 00:07:56,630 was a quick vote. 134 00:07:57,370 --> 00:08:03,410 Silas, I remember saying early on in this game that the game was 90 % luck, 135 00:08:03,410 --> 00:08:04,410 skill. 136 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,520 having prevailed, what equation would you give it? 137 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,400 It's not 90 % luck. I don't think that. 138 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,840 I think there is a lot of luck involved. 139 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,280 The whole switcheroo thing, I was unlucky for some people, like Silas. 140 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:24,480 He was a fish out of water once he came over to us, and that could have been any 141 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:30,360 one of us. And it was just unlucky for him. And in that sense, luck is a huge 142 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,580 part of it. Did the best player win? 143 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,820 I think so. Kim, did the best player win? I think so. Lex? 144 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,080 I do. 145 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Tom? 146 00:08:39,179 --> 00:08:40,740 I thought I was the best. 147 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:46,560 Okay. 148 00:08:47,780 --> 00:08:54,720 If I can't win, I'll... Yeah. Okay. Well, but really, I had an alliance with 149 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,240 Lex and Ethan. Yeah. And... 150 00:08:57,790 --> 00:09:00,630 If it wasn't me, I wouldn't... All right, well, let me tell you something. 151 00:09:00,630 --> 00:09:04,430 we come back, we'll talk about alliances, and we'll talk of friends and 152 00:09:04,590 --> 00:09:07,870 mate, in the heat of competition. Stay with us. Our Survivor Africa reunion 153 00:09:07,870 --> 00:09:10,190 continues. Live from Los Angeles, right after this. 154 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:50,630 Go ahead. The floor is yours. 155 00:09:52,310 --> 00:09:56,390 I thought I was going to be a star when I are. 156 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:59,490 Instead of I are, I ain't. 157 00:10:01,810 --> 00:10:02,810 Well, you are. 158 00:10:03,090 --> 00:10:08,170 It's a lot of fun. Yeah? A lot of fun. I met 15 different great friends, and I 159 00:10:08,170 --> 00:10:10,670 don't know what else I could ask for. Well, you know, we kind of slugged this 160 00:10:10,670 --> 00:10:13,870 section, friends and enemies, and I know there are no enemies here. 161 00:10:14,750 --> 00:10:18,090 But you made an interesting comment, Ethan. When you said out there you're... 162 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,580 You're always surrounded by people, but you felt so alone. 163 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:23,960 I did. Is that because you couldn't trust anybody? 164 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,220 Well, there's always, no matter how tight our lines was, no matter how good 165 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:31,340 friends you are with everyone, there's always that little bit in the back of 166 00:10:31,340 --> 00:10:34,780 your mind where, you know, these people could be playing me, you know, they 167 00:10:34,780 --> 00:10:38,220 could turn on me at any minute, so you can never fully, I never felt I could 168 00:10:38,220 --> 00:10:42,080 fully trust anyone. Yeah. Because, you know, ultimately everyone wants to win. 169 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,080 You're the last one standing. Diane, you were the first one off. 170 00:10:45,940 --> 00:10:46,940 Is that embarrassing? 171 00:10:48,619 --> 00:10:49,780 Oh, yeah, no. 172 00:10:50,020 --> 00:10:54,800 I mean, I was kind of relieved to go first, you know, being sick. 173 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,760 It was too hard for me, and it didn't really bother me. 174 00:10:58,980 --> 00:11:01,480 If you hadn't taken the map, do you think you would have lasted longer? 175 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:08,940 Yeah. I think it was the water that, you know, that got dumped. Yeah. 176 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,820 You were the first one to faint. 177 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,220 Jessie, you were the first one to lose. 178 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Yeah! 179 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,400 To lose your breakfast. 180 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Why? Because you were unprepared? 181 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:23,020 You know what? I'm not really sure. I started drinking the water from the gore 182 00:11:23,020 --> 00:11:26,800 as soon as we got on the bus, and my stomach was just not taking it right. 183 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,880 But, yeah, I puked. Oh, well. 184 00:11:29,380 --> 00:11:30,380 That's life. 185 00:11:31,060 --> 00:11:32,060 What were you going to say, Silas? 186 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,760 In Diane's defense, I mean... 187 00:11:35,050 --> 00:11:38,830 Y 'all, she was picked out of like 50 ,000 people, so I wouldn't say that was, 188 00:11:38,910 --> 00:11:42,570 you know, disappointing at all. I'm very proud of Diane for being here. No 189 00:11:42,570 --> 00:11:43,570 doubt. 190 00:11:46,110 --> 00:11:47,110 Okay, 191 00:11:48,330 --> 00:11:49,330 all right. 192 00:11:49,830 --> 00:11:55,890 But Diane's plight brings us to the first cringe moment of the series, which 193 00:11:55,890 --> 00:11:56,890 the bean. 194 00:11:56,930 --> 00:11:57,930 Okay? 195 00:11:58,510 --> 00:12:01,550 Tom, if I had a gun, I'd shoot you? 196 00:12:03,290 --> 00:12:04,590 Did I steal your ring? 197 00:12:07,230 --> 00:12:08,630 Isn't that a little over the top? 198 00:12:09,050 --> 00:12:10,070 Hell yeah. 199 00:12:12,930 --> 00:12:16,070 Thank God that wasn't my luxury item. 200 00:12:17,970 --> 00:12:22,930 Over the top, I'd say not. Man, you know. 201 00:12:23,370 --> 00:12:26,250 That was just a comment out there. If he didn't shoot him, I would have cut his 202 00:12:26,250 --> 00:12:31,230 throat. Yeah, maybe. 203 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:34,350 Clarence, why'd you take it so well? I mean, I'll be honest with you. There are 204 00:12:34,350 --> 00:12:36,650 a lot of folks sitting at home going, yo, I would not take that. 205 00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:38,390 Man, 206 00:12:38,690 --> 00:12:39,429 that was crazy. 207 00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:42,690 You know, because I'm just thinking, man, I'm hungry. Like, I lost all 208 00:12:42,690 --> 00:12:46,210 to think rationally after that. You know, all I could think, all I could see 209 00:12:46,210 --> 00:12:47,390 my... I was just a victim of hunger. 210 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:50,610 I was just starving. 211 00:12:51,070 --> 00:12:53,190 So, you know, I ate it, and it wasn't until I was sitting there, and these 212 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:55,910 people was yelling at me, and honestly, the reason I didn't go off was because I 213 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:56,910 was thinking about food. 214 00:12:57,090 --> 00:12:59,830 Like, I just ate them beans, and I wanted more, man, but I couldn't believe 215 00:12:59,830 --> 00:13:02,930 everybody was that mad. Like, I ain't seen white people that mad since O .J. 216 00:13:02,930 --> 00:13:03,930 acquitted. 217 00:13:13,230 --> 00:13:14,230 Honestly, 218 00:13:14,570 --> 00:13:20,940 in behalf of Men Clarence, probably Men Clarence, after that, We work 219 00:13:20,940 --> 00:13:26,040 hand in hand after, you know, Clarence took it like a man. And, you know, I 220 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:26,719 don't know. 221 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:32,440 But to walk away from here after, you know, after having hard feelings and all 222 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:38,400 the comments we made, me and Clarence is probably as tight as anybody on the 223 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,740 show. Brandon and Frank, can you say the same thing? 224 00:13:41,380 --> 00:13:43,220 We're good friends. Yeah, we're friendly. 225 00:13:50,090 --> 00:13:51,710 That antipathy was pretty real, yeah? 226 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:56,250 I mean, I'd rather be gone in three days than have anybody think I sided with 227 00:13:56,250 --> 00:13:57,129 Frank. 228 00:13:57,130 --> 00:14:01,430 And I was gone in three days, but yeah, it was real out there. You know when you 229 00:14:01,430 --> 00:14:05,350 spend that much time with somebody that is so different from you and you hate 230 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:06,350 them so much? 231 00:14:06,530 --> 00:14:07,870 Hate's a strong word, isn't it? 232 00:14:08,090 --> 00:14:09,490 No, it's good. It's a good word, though. 233 00:14:11,830 --> 00:14:14,230 Yeah, it's a real word when you're out there. 234 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:18,380 And, you know, then I came home and he put his daughters on the phone. And, you 235 00:14:18,380 --> 00:14:21,560 know, then you'd see him for real people. But out there, no, I couldn't 236 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,680 him. He wasn't the only one, but just one of many I didn't like. 237 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:26,700 Frank, 238 00:14:27,060 --> 00:14:30,720 he used the word hate. I mean, how would you characterize your feelings for 239 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Brandon out there? Brandon is just another human being. I coexisted with 240 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,480 don't agree with his lifestyle, but, you know. 241 00:14:36,810 --> 00:14:38,410 Yeah, but he wasn't asking you about his lifestyle. 242 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:42,170 No, but I mean, he just existed. Besides, there was no hunting allowed 243 00:14:42,170 --> 00:14:43,250 I couldn't do anything about it. 244 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:50,190 Did you dislike him intensely, as intensely as he disliked you? Not at 245 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:52,730 just needed to keep our distance in space. 246 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:54,190 Yeah. 247 00:14:55,130 --> 00:14:56,770 People were assuming that. 248 00:14:56,990 --> 00:15:00,790 Well, I mean, look, Carl was up there nodding his head behind you because Carl 249 00:15:00,790 --> 00:15:01,830 and Linda had problems. 250 00:15:02,350 --> 00:15:06,010 And T -Bird, too, had problems with your whole tribe. Had I not taken Frank to 251 00:15:06,010 --> 00:15:08,050 the waterhole for a break, he would have killed him. 252 00:15:10,490 --> 00:15:16,630 You know, you guys, you had a split along generational lines. You were the 253 00:15:16,630 --> 00:15:17,810 Geritol gang, right? 254 00:15:18,190 --> 00:15:22,310 You're aware that Kim said you guys could have handled it better, that as 255 00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:25,510 older people, you should have found a way to work together. 256 00:15:26,090 --> 00:15:30,950 Linda? We were trying, but I tell you, those alliances split so quickly, right 257 00:15:30,950 --> 00:15:32,770 away. And that was our downfall. 258 00:15:33,070 --> 00:15:36,290 And that's why there are no Samboro people sitting in the front row. 259 00:15:37,310 --> 00:15:38,129 She's right. 260 00:15:38,130 --> 00:15:40,770 T -Bird, should you have handled it better? Right. I was going to say, we 261 00:15:40,770 --> 00:15:45,210 to pull it together. And then when the tribes were blocked and we went over to 262 00:15:45,210 --> 00:15:50,830 Buran, then once we got Brandon and Kim and Frank, there was still a division 263 00:15:50,830 --> 00:15:52,990 that we tried our best to pull together. 264 00:15:54,350 --> 00:15:57,190 I think the tribal elders, we like to say tribal elders. 265 00:15:58,170 --> 00:16:01,330 We did our best to try to pull it together. 266 00:16:01,590 --> 00:16:04,190 Yeah. Lindsay, why were you so nasty to him? 267 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:10,530 Excuse me. Can we address this to all of us? Okay. Why were you so nasty to him? 268 00:16:10,530 --> 00:16:13,490 You know what? What really, I mean, you know, there's so many different stories 269 00:16:13,490 --> 00:16:16,690 of what happened out there. But what really happened is I think. 270 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:20,990 people just didn't really understand what was going on most of the time. And 271 00:16:20,990 --> 00:16:24,210 things just kind of happened so fast, and you thought you were doing the right 272 00:16:24,210 --> 00:16:27,510 thing one minute, and then the next minute you were questioning it. And for 273 00:16:27,610 --> 00:16:33,370 I mean, not to mention the emotional outburst and the whining, I just think I 274 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:36,910 panicked a lot and I became paranoid, and I just wanted to stick with the 275 00:16:36,910 --> 00:16:38,470 who I felt like were going to protect me. 276 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:42,910 And then it just turned nasty, and nobody wanted it to, and nobody meant 277 00:16:42,910 --> 00:16:45,950 to happen. It just did, and there was just no turning back. It was not... 278 00:16:46,530 --> 00:16:47,730 intentional by any mean. 279 00:16:48,210 --> 00:16:51,770 But it was, you know, you couldn't change it. There was no way to go back. 280 00:16:51,770 --> 00:16:55,170 was too far into it. Is there anybody here who didn't have an alliance of some 281 00:16:55,170 --> 00:16:56,370 sort and didn't try for one? 282 00:16:57,330 --> 00:16:58,330 Jesse, 283 00:17:00,210 --> 00:17:00,989 you didn't? 284 00:17:00,990 --> 00:17:04,130 I've never watched Survivors. My first time actually was watching a full 285 00:17:04,130 --> 00:17:08,589 Survivor. So I was totally unprepared. Six days audio some of those. You didn't 286 00:17:08,589 --> 00:17:11,930 try for one either, huh? No, it's a funny thing because after I stole that 287 00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:13,750 just nobody liked me for a little while. 288 00:17:14,450 --> 00:17:15,910 Nobody wanted to take me away. 289 00:17:16,990 --> 00:17:19,390 Hey, look, we're going to disappear for a moment. When we come back, we'll talk 290 00:17:19,390 --> 00:17:21,430 about the hardships of Africa. 291 00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:25,990 But first, as we get into a break, let's head to New York City where... 292 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,740 I'm told every Thursday a group of Ethan's friends gather to watch Survivor 293 00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:33,200 cheer him on. Tonight they're gathered at a bar and they are cheering. 294 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,240 I think I can. 295 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,080 I think I can. I know I can. 296 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Woo -hoo! 297 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:55,200 I tell you, this Survivor stuff, I think I can do it. 298 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,360 You want me to be on Survivor? 299 00:18:09,980 --> 00:18:12,760 Lens, we watched the original upstairs. What were you thinking? 300 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,360 I was painted. 301 00:18:17,660 --> 00:18:21,180 You're asking me why I did it? Yeah, it's all right. To be honest, I had no 302 00:18:21,180 --> 00:18:22,180 idea. 303 00:18:22,270 --> 00:18:25,530 how to get on a show like this. I never really watched it. I didn't know what 304 00:18:25,530 --> 00:18:28,410 the videos were like. And my friends and I got together, and they said, you 305 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:31,650 know, you're a great athlete. Let's show all your athletic endeavors, what you 306 00:18:31,650 --> 00:18:35,610 do, snowboard, mountain bike, you know. And three days before it was due, I 307 00:18:35,610 --> 00:18:36,610 said, that's lame. 308 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:39,470 They're not going to care if I mountain bike. So my friend Hannah took out her 309 00:18:39,470 --> 00:18:43,550 body paints and painted flowers on me and said, you know, you've got to shock 310 00:18:43,550 --> 00:18:47,170 them. You've got to stand out. And I guess it worked. It did. 311 00:18:48,550 --> 00:18:50,870 Is it fair to say that Africa was harder than you thought it was going to be? 312 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:52,130 Oh, absolutely. 313 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,320 Would that apply to everybody here? 314 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Yeah. 315 00:18:55,240 --> 00:19:00,060 I mean, I'm an athlete. I compete regularly in a tough sport, and nothing 316 00:19:00,060 --> 00:19:02,580 prepare you for this. 317 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,220 I'm looking at a quote, and Lex, it was you, who said not a single one of us 318 00:19:07,220 --> 00:19:10,060 came here thinking the danger was going to be real. 319 00:19:10,420 --> 00:19:13,400 Well, I mean, we didn't. You know, I remember telling some of my friends 320 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,400 I left. 321 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,400 They knew that I had applied for the show, and I said, you know, Survivor, 322 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,400 like reality TV. 323 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,880 Half of it's reality, half it's TV. 324 00:19:22,540 --> 00:19:26,140 But I think all of us were universally shocked to find out that the animal 325 00:19:26,140 --> 00:19:27,860 danger was completely real. 326 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:32,540 And the challenges, I mean, we all came out there thinking, oh, these are going 327 00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:33,399 to be fun games. 328 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,060 They're going to be like little Olympic games or whatever. 329 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,600 But when we did that boulder challenge, that thing was so damn heavy. And when 330 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,020 we started pushing it, and that thing started rolling on our legs. 331 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,480 Like, you know, if one of us falls and this thing rolls over our head, it will 332 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,020 crush my head like a walnut. 333 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:52,360 We could die out here. I mean, it sounds so dramatic, but, God, the challenges 334 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:53,360 were nuts. 335 00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:57,460 You can see right... Oh, there it takes... It just took him out. 336 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:05,080 The game was so brutally hard, and when I came home, the first thing I told all 337 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,340 my friends was, you know, when I was able to talk about it was, it was so 338 00:20:09,340 --> 00:20:13,200 harder. You guys have no idea. And as a Survivor fan, before I went on the show, 339 00:20:13,710 --> 00:20:16,950 I mean, we used to watch them play. This is hard, but it's TV. It's just 340 00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:18,750 television. It's hard. 341 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:21,970 And the threats were real. I mean, Kim, you were crying when you heard those 342 00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:23,070 lions outside the bowl, yeah? 343 00:20:23,530 --> 00:20:24,409 Yes, I was. 344 00:20:24,410 --> 00:20:28,830 Yeah. You could see them. I mean, you know, you could see their eyes and you 345 00:20:28,830 --> 00:20:31,750 could see their threats. But I'm sure most people believe that if that lion 346 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:35,290 gotten within three feet of that fence, there'd have been a Mark Burnett rocket 347 00:20:35,290 --> 00:20:36,290 coming through. 348 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:39,710 Mark Burnett was sleeping very soundly in that lion. 349 00:20:39,930 --> 00:20:42,530 And there'd have been a big hole in the ground where the lion was. Not true? 350 00:20:43,020 --> 00:20:47,100 That lion was three feet from us. I mean, it was Ethan and I, the picket 351 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:50,060 and the lion. And that's for real. And that's pretty scary. 352 00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:53,960 You know, I don't know what anybody would have done if that lion decided to 353 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,420 the boom off. I don't know. But I can tell you, from our perspective, there 354 00:20:58,420 --> 00:21:01,480 no one else around but me and Ethan and the lion. And then, of course, Big Tom 355 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,260 to the rescue. But it was scary. It was very scary. 356 00:21:04,540 --> 00:21:08,940 Always Big Tom to the rescue. Always Big Tom. I think we have a question for Big 357 00:21:08,940 --> 00:21:12,280 Tom up here. Bring it up. This question is for Big Tom. How's your boil? 358 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:15,559 Brand new. 359 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,040 I'm in good shape now. It's busted, gone, forgot about. 360 00:21:20,860 --> 00:21:22,640 It was ugly. It was disgusting. 361 00:21:23,220 --> 00:21:24,039 The bull? 362 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Yeah. 363 00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:29,960 But let's talk a little bit about some of the hardships you went through. I 364 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:35,200 mean, it wasn't just the harshness of the environment, but also, Kel, I mean, 365 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,440 how difficult was it that there was no... 366 00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:41,270 No relief from it. There was no place where you can go to water and just hang 367 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:44,410 out. There was no place to just take a walk and be by yourself. 368 00:21:44,830 --> 00:21:48,690 It was really intense. It was a 24 -hour -a -day game. You couldn't even really 369 00:21:48,690 --> 00:21:51,350 afford to sleep because people were up talking about you all night. You had to 370 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:52,990 be on your toes constantly. 371 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:57,790 And, yeah, it was a wild ride, but I think we all definitely enjoyed it. 372 00:21:58,790 --> 00:22:03,490 Frank, I saw where you said that if this had been in Chile, you wouldn't have 373 00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:04,750 gone. I mean, the allure was. 374 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:08,630 Africa was definitely the allure. But like everybody here would agree, it was 375 00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:13,050 tough. And day two, I know speaking for my tribe, we were struggling. I mean, it 376 00:22:13,050 --> 00:22:14,050 was 100 degrees. 377 00:22:14,170 --> 00:22:16,050 We had no water. We just got fire. 378 00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:17,730 And it was all real. 379 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:19,870 CBS wasn't there handing out water bottles. 380 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:21,190 Did you think they would be? 381 00:22:21,390 --> 00:22:22,390 Absolutely not. 382 00:22:22,530 --> 00:22:24,670 Guy in front of you called it vegetarian survivor. 383 00:22:24,990 --> 00:22:26,830 He thought it was pretty easy. Frank? Yeah. 384 00:22:27,260 --> 00:22:29,020 He thought it was easy? I don't think he thought it was easy. 385 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,300 It was challenging. It was very challenging. 386 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:33,219 Disagree, Frank? 387 00:22:33,220 --> 00:22:37,940 Frank? The part for me was the mental part of it, the people part of it. 388 00:22:38,140 --> 00:22:39,140 The people part of it. 389 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,580 I disagree with Alex. The animals were there. I didn't care about the animals. 390 00:22:42,580 --> 00:22:43,580 didn't care about the heat. 391 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,620 No, because you were up there talking to the elephants. I didn't like that. 392 00:22:46,420 --> 00:22:50,900 But the people, the stress on the people because you just couldn't blow my fuse 393 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:53,580 or do something. Did you really think you could talk to that elephant? 394 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,500 Absolutely. You can communicate with anything if you try hard. Really? 395 00:22:58,370 --> 00:22:59,590 You had it going, huh? 396 00:22:59,790 --> 00:23:03,750 Speaking of relief, go 39 days without toilet paper. 397 00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:05,750 There's no relief. 398 00:23:06,150 --> 00:23:07,850 Want to repeat that for me? 39 days without? 399 00:23:08,190 --> 00:23:09,190 Toilet paper. 400 00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:10,770 That's my relief. 401 00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:14,450 Really? I mean, tough. 402 00:23:14,790 --> 00:23:20,470 Everybody thinks it's a holiday end when, you know, just simple little 403 00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:26,430 things you take for granted, just brushing your teeth, or toiletries, or 404 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:29,420 Everyday things is a challenge. 405 00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:34,100 There's not only hardship, but the place is somewhat magical. And you two got a 406 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:37,160 taste of it when you did the goat bartering, right? I mean, it's a 407 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,460 experience that's got to rank high on your list, yeah? 408 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:41,100 Definitely. 409 00:23:41,380 --> 00:23:42,380 Unbelievable. 410 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:46,600 You know, you might be surprised to learn that we did a little research on 411 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,260 And about what a goat is really worth. No. 412 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,580 No, this is the truth. 413 00:23:53,620 --> 00:23:56,780 As I recall, you got... What, $1 ,600 for the two of them? 414 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,279 $1 ,800? 415 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,080 I don't know. I think that's about right. Around there, yeah. 416 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:05,180 You'll be happy to know that when we inquired, a goat is worth between $700 417 00:24:05,180 --> 00:24:10,960 $900. You got top dollar. You got top dollar. But the french fries that we 418 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,300 bought, those aren't worth, like, $1 ,400. 419 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,480 We paid $1 ,400 for those. French fries and a couple of drinks. 420 00:24:17,740 --> 00:24:22,280 He had a topper of experience, though, when you went to Wamba Hospital, yeah? 421 00:24:23,260 --> 00:24:26,460 I mean, it sounds so cliched, but it was really life -changing. 422 00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:30,220 I mean, when we were watching it, watching the episode last week, I don't 423 00:24:30,220 --> 00:24:33,900 how many times my phone rang. It was off the hook when I got the truck. And I 424 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:37,660 was so excited, but I got to see that hospital. I mean, it was just, it was 425 00:24:37,660 --> 00:24:41,880 really, I mean, it really opened my eyes. And to get that experience and to 426 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,840 it from the inside out and to meet somebody. 427 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,640 The doctor, the good Italian doctor there, who is really literally a living 428 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,320 saint. I mean, you can't help but have that change you. And it's special to two 429 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,780 of your cast members, both of whom, Linda and T -Bird, lost a brother to 430 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,840 It had to be a very special moment. Very special moment, yeah. 431 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:05,820 In fact, once I was voted out and I had an opportunity to travel around with 432 00:25:05,820 --> 00:25:09,540 this health care clinic that focused on AIDS awareness and family planning, so I 433 00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:11,700 was fortunate enough to have close to two weeks. 434 00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:17,030 of traveling around with nurses who were caring for sick people. 435 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:20,350 So it was very special. And in fact, I saw when he was driving off the 436 00:25:20,350 --> 00:25:22,090 ambulance, you had tears in your eyes, T -Bird. 437 00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:24,050 Yeah, I did. You were crying. You really wanted that. 438 00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:28,130 Well, no, actually, when they lifted up the back of the truck in the first box I 439 00:25:28,130 --> 00:25:30,190 saw, it said HIV test kits. 440 00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:34,490 All of a sudden, I knew, you know, what it was and where they were going. And it 441 00:25:34,490 --> 00:25:37,970 was actually tears of joy because I knew that. 442 00:25:38,350 --> 00:25:41,570 They were going to be put to good use, and they needed to be there. 443 00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:46,110 And, of course, that Lex was the one that got to go. You know, unlike his 444 00:25:46,110 --> 00:25:50,210 reputation through all this, he's a very sensitive, wonderful guy. 445 00:25:50,610 --> 00:25:53,650 And to think that he was going to be representing us, if it couldn't have 446 00:25:53,650 --> 00:25:57,230 me, once again, it was perfect that he went. You know what's so sweet? That's 447 00:25:57,230 --> 00:26:00,430 the first thing she told me when I got back. She said, I'm so happy you were 448 00:26:00,430 --> 00:26:01,209 able to do it. 449 00:26:01,210 --> 00:26:04,510 And she truly, those tears were tears of joy that people were being helped. 450 00:26:11,180 --> 00:26:16,460 As we take a break here, as we take a break, watch this, Big Tom. Let's check 451 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:18,980 on a party going on in Tom's hometown, Rich Valley, Virginia. 452 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:33,060 You should put me on Survivor, and let me tell you why. 453 00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:38,420 On the application, you asked if we had any body art or tattoos, and I do. I 454 00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:39,760 have a small red rose tattoo. 455 00:26:40,350 --> 00:26:42,410 but you have to put me on the show to find out where it is. 456 00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:43,970 It's under this bubble somewhere. 457 00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:57,150 Oh, Kim, this wed -wed woes. Where was it? 458 00:26:58,410 --> 00:26:59,910 Big Tom knows. 459 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:05,500 I kiss, but I don't tell. 460 00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:08,700 The question is, does Sandy know Big Tom knows? 461 00:27:08,980 --> 00:27:10,280 Yeah, we talked about it last night. 462 00:27:11,340 --> 00:27:12,920 She's not too upset with me. Okay. 463 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,559 Everything's all right. 464 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,280 Go ahead. I'm sorry. Don't let me stop you. 465 00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:20,200 She said you had to be on the show, so I can't tell anybody. 466 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,240 Okay. How conscious, when you're out there, are you of how you're being 467 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,240 portrayed? 468 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:29,820 I mean, is it an omnipresent thing, or do you think about it just every now and 469 00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:30,820 then? Silas? 470 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Boy, that's an interesting question. 471 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,660 You know, you're really not. You're out there, at least from my point of view, 472 00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:43,100 out there like Lex to play the game and to win the game. Like Teresa, I mean, 473 00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:46,600 there's only one winner, you know, and you're out there to win. This isn't a 474 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,399 team game. 475 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,000 And I think that, you know, you do different things to, you know, try to 476 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,080 alliance. Yeah, but when you say stuff, do stuff. Are you aware of how it's 477 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,300 being perceived back home and how it's going to haunt you when you leave there? 478 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,460 No. The cameras were on you 24 -7. I was definitely aware. 479 00:28:01,660 --> 00:28:02,660 You were aware. 480 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,240 I disagree. 481 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,580 As long as we were, those cameras become so normal that you forget that they are 482 00:28:09,580 --> 00:28:13,020 there. You totally forget that they're there. And if you get real hungry, it 483 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:14,260 don't matter. You don't need to eat. 484 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:18,160 If you get really upset, it don't matter. 485 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,980 Brandon, you were aware of them, huh? No, I wasn't. You were. I totally, after 486 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:26,000 like the first three days, I totally started forgetting that they were there. 487 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,540 I would notice more when the still photographer was around because his 488 00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:31,359 made a noise. 489 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:35,140 When Monty, well, anyway, it, like, made this clicking noise. Not always jerk, 490 00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:38,980 and I would recognize that. But, yeah, I mean, you're there so long that it's 491 00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:41,460 like second nature. But you weren't there. You told me to make a statement. 492 00:28:41,780 --> 00:28:46,740 What was it? You know, I just hate, I hate 20 -something gay people on TV 493 00:28:46,740 --> 00:28:47,980 now. I don't ever see myself. 494 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:52,700 I see these really promiscuous people, and, I don't know, they're caught up in 495 00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:54,280 this whole party scene, and that's not me. 496 00:28:55,050 --> 00:28:58,030 I don't know, I thought it would be nice for somebody to see, you know, you can 497 00:28:58,030 --> 00:29:02,510 be kind of flamboyant and have a good time and, you know, go out and not be 498 00:29:02,510 --> 00:29:04,150 of those people and caught up in that lifestyle. 499 00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:09,270 I didn't succeed with proving that point, but I just looked like a raven 500 00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:10,390 but that's okay too. 501 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,800 And Kelly, you said you went there because you didn't want to be viewed as 502 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:37,220 sexy one like Jerry or the sweet one like Elizabeth or the dumb one like 503 00:29:37,380 --> 00:29:40,560 I mean, you wanted to be viewed as the smart one. 504 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:44,200 No, it wasn't that I wanted to be viewed as the smart one. I've done a lot of 505 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,160 research on gender in the media and the way women are portrayed, and oftentimes 506 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,660 they fall into one of two roles. Either the villain, like Jerry kind of came 507 00:29:50,660 --> 00:29:53,720 off, or the innocent ingenue like Elizabeth. 508 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,780 And my only goal was to play it like a real person, to just go out there, use 509 00:29:57,780 --> 00:30:02,240 whatever skills I had, which are few and far between, and use my intellect if I 510 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,020 could, just hang around and have a good time. 511 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,000 Yeah. Lindsay, you were disappointed in how you came off, right? 512 00:30:08,330 --> 00:30:12,410 Yeah, I was a little, you know, I can't say I was disappointed. At first, it was 513 00:30:12,410 --> 00:30:16,190 a little hard to take because, you know, I really didn't think I was mean or 514 00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:21,110 evil or did anything that it would come across as bad. But I definitely had my 515 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:24,590 moments out there. I was up and down and all around. I was emotional. I said 516 00:30:24,590 --> 00:30:25,590 things I shouldn't have. 517 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,140 You know, it was shocking at first because I made a lot of really good 518 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,000 and I just didn't think that I could ever be portrayed as being the villain. 519 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,700 But, you know, I was emotional out there, and emotions can get the best of 520 00:30:36,780 --> 00:30:40,600 and they got the best of me, and, you know, I laughed at it. 521 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,759 It's okay. 522 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,460 It's all right. Just let it all out. It's all right. 523 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:47,580 We started this section talking about a tattoo. I'm going to finish talking 524 00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:49,140 about a tattoo. What's the fascination? 525 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,120 God, I think much of the chagrin of my mom and dad, I started wanting them when 526 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,320 I was like five or six years old. 527 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720 You know, I waited a while, but now I just can't seem to stop. Yeah? 528 00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:02,980 And if River comes to you and says, Dad, I want to get one. He can get one as 529 00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:03,980 soon as he's 18. 530 00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:05,630 Oh, we have an age limit. 531 00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:07,009 That's the law. 532 00:31:07,010 --> 00:31:11,610 Okay. If I had gotten half of my tattoos before I was 18, I'd probably be 533 00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:16,090 covered with, you know, I'd have an Iron Maiden rocker on my chest, and, you 534 00:31:16,090 --> 00:31:18,190 know, I'd have a bunch of stuff I probably don't want. 535 00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:21,830 Barney, if I started at six. 536 00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:23,110 No, no, no, no. 537 00:31:23,530 --> 00:31:27,370 Captain Kangaroo, big Captain Kangaroo on my chest. They look good. They look 538 00:31:27,370 --> 00:31:31,520 good. Coming up, we're going to talk of images and perceptions and how often 539 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,960 both can be at odds with reality. 540 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,460 But first, Big Tom gets his big break. Go ahead. Give us a sample. You gave us 541 00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:38,580 sample of Musical Talent Africa. 542 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,180 If you missed it, here he is with an encore. Big Tom, the floor is yours. 543 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,839 Oh, God. 544 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,500 Oh, God. Hey, bartender, fix me a potty. Oh, Big Tom, the lover's body. Open the 545 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,200 windows, close the doors. Throw that spurt in the back, girl. 546 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,960 In the gym, hours on the court, cardiovascular, 547 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,880 pumping iron, all state number one. 548 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:27,760 You know what, stand up for a second. I was telling her earlier, now I've done 549 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,040 all of these, you've got the best abs anybody ever had on the show. Give us a 550 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,340 shot. Give us a shot. 551 00:32:41,850 --> 00:32:42,890 Kim's got better abs? 552 00:32:43,290 --> 00:32:44,910 Really? Kim's better. 553 00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:49,310 Show them off, baby. That's all right. Thank you. No? 554 00:32:50,250 --> 00:32:51,910 Look, before we... 555 00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:57,810 Before we proceed, let's do a preview. Having tested competitors in the African 556 00:32:57,810 --> 00:33:01,870 wilderness, the Australian outback, and the South China Sea, survivors on the 557 00:33:01,870 --> 00:33:04,150 move again, revving up for a fourth season of surprises. 558 00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:08,410 Jeff Probst has the first look at what the next set of survivors will face in a 559 00:33:08,410 --> 00:33:12,470 place both exotic and dangerous and about as far from civilization as one 560 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:13,470 get. 561 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,880 new strangers would be abandoned in the middle of the most remote place on 562 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,200 earth, the Marquesas, part of Tahiti's mystical islands in the South Pacific, 563 00:33:28,460 --> 00:33:30,920 thousands of miles from the nearest continent. 564 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,900 It is a place of rugged beauty, with magnificent waterfalls, towering banyan 565 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:42,260 trees, and a backyard home to some of the most exotic and dangerous sea life 566 00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:43,260 the world. 567 00:33:43,620 --> 00:33:44,620 This island. 568 00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:49,930 with a history steeped in superstition and violence, would be their home for 39 569 00:33:49,930 --> 00:33:54,970 days. And for the first time, these survivors will be given no rations 570 00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:59,250 whatsoever, no food, no water, no fire. 571 00:33:59,630 --> 00:34:04,850 With only the barest of essentials, they must fend for themselves, utilizing the 572 00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:07,790 resources of the land and their own survival skills. 573 00:34:08,330 --> 00:34:11,409 It is a difficult but not impossible task. 574 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:13,550 Everything they need to survive. 575 00:34:14,090 --> 00:34:15,090 is on the island. 576 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:20,650 Their success will depend upon their ability to work together to create a new 577 00:34:20,650 --> 00:34:24,170 society while battling the elements and each other. 578 00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:26,570 It is the ultimate challenge. 579 00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:33,969 Outwin, outplay, outlast until only one remains and emerges as the sole 580 00:34:33,969 --> 00:34:34,969 survivor. 581 00:34:47,399 --> 00:34:49,139 Survivor Marquesas, given the chance, who'd go? 582 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,279 Oh, yeah. 583 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,719 Come on, all of you do it all again? 584 00:34:52,060 --> 00:34:53,980 They don't get their own food. 585 00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:56,540 You'd do it all again? 586 00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:00,880 Let me ask you something. Does it help to have watched before? I mean, I ask 587 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,920 that because Brandon, Kelly, Linda, arguably you three were the biggest 588 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,220 fans of all going into this. You see where we ended up. Well, that's why I'm 589 00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:10,840 asking. How much does it help? 590 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,720 It doesn't. It doesn't help at all. I think it helped that you got Brandon out 591 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:20,460 there. No way. The least you know, the better. I mean, I think that, you know, 592 00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:23,860 the over -planning, the constant, like, you know, racking your brain, like, what 593 00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:25,380 am I going to do? You know, building strategies. 594 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,400 It kills you. I mean, it totally kills you. I think going into it just kind of 595 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,120 relaxed and like, ah, whatever, you know, kind of flying under the radar. I 596 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,120 think that's the best way to do it. With all due respect, let me hear from the 597 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,120 front row on this. 598 00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:39,060 Does it help? 599 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,080 I think it helps. I watched the other survivors, not religiously, but I 600 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,420 them, and it definitely helped me figure out, you know, which way to go. Maybe 601 00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:48,180 you watched Rudy, right? 602 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,520 And then you figured out just how to do it correctly, right? 603 00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:53,340 There's Rudy with us today. 604 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,560 Nice seeing you, Rudy. 605 00:35:54,940 --> 00:35:58,160 We're going to come on back in just a little bit and close up here. First, 606 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,860 take a break as our Survivor Africa reunion continues live from Los Angeles. 607 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,880 And you and your band got a new recording contract, yeah? That's right. 608 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,000 Lucky Dog, just got a record deal. How tough is it going to be now to return to 609 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,300 normal life? Do you still get stopped at the supermarket and everything else? 610 00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:45,360 Yeah. It's wonderful. Really? You like it? It's a blast. It's so much fun. I 611 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,520 mean, people still get so excited. 612 00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:49,500 It's just so much fun. If you're a people person. 613 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,540 It's, you know, it's a dream come true. If you're not a people person, oh, it's 614 00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:56,960 a nightmare. And you made friends to last a lifetime. Ethan, you had the 615 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,960 word, you get the last. 616 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,480 How are you going to spend the money? 617 00:36:59,980 --> 00:37:04,560 Well, I owe my brothers probably about 27 years worth of birthday presents, so 618 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,180 think I'm going to start there. 619 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,120 Yeah. But I like to, you know, I like to do something good. It's a dream come 620 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,860 true. Yeah, it's a dream come true. Congratulations. Guys, congratulations 621 00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:18,400 all of you. Diane, Jesse, Carl, Linda, Silas, Lindsay. 622 00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:25,770 Clarence, T -Bird, Kim, Frank, Brandon, Kelly, Big Tom, Lex, Kim J., 623 00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:26,770 and Ethan. 624 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:27,870 Congratulations, guys. 625 00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:30,650 I'm Bryant Gumbel. The tribe has spoken. Good night.