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<i>I'm Dr. Travis Taylor.</i>

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<i>I was invited
to investigate this area</i>

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<i>known as Skinwalker Ranch.</i>

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We've verified
and documented everything

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<i>from UFO sightings
to these columns of light</i>

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<i>above the mesa,
and even cattle mutilations.</i>

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Let's go up the mountain.

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Look at that.
Microwaves like that

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could be harmful to humans.

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<i>If you want the phenomenon</i>

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to manifest itself,
you go and dig somewhere.

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When you dig, bad stuff happens.

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One day I was digging,

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<i>my scalp separated
from my skull.</i>

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If you're gonna be
a part of this,

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I have to unequivocably say
no digging.

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<i>There is a
ranch in northern Utah.</i>

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<i>It is considered the epicenter
of the strangest</i>

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<i>and most disturbing
phenomena on Earth:</i>

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<i>animal mutilations,</i>

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<i>bizarre UFO sightings</i>

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<i>and unusual energies</i>

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<i>that have proven harmful
to humans.</i>

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<i>For 20 years,
the federal government</i>

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<i>tried to find answers
and failed.</i>

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<i>Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,</i>

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<i>researches and experts
has taken over.</i>

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<i>They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...</i>

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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

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<i>Hey, Brandon.</i>

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<i>Greetings, team. I'm glad
that you've patched me in,</i>

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and I'm wondering how the
investigation is progressing.

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So, one of the first things
the guys want to do is...

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they want to dig.

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You know, I-I'm not sure
I'm comfortable with that.

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<i>There are certain risks</i>

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<i>you just haven't
been properly briefed on.</i>

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Well, we need

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to be briefed
on that data, then.

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I understand. Erik,

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<i>show them what is in the case.</i>

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<i>Regrettably, I have to go
to a meeting, so I'll look</i>

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<i>- for your update later. Thanks, gentlemen.
- Will do.</i>

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- Thank you. - Thanks, Brandon.
- See you later, Brandon.

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<i>I came into this saying,</i>

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<i>"Look, guys, we're gonna
follow the scientific method."</i>

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You can't keep data
away from the experiment

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and not show
the rest of the team

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<i>in order for it
to be a good experiment.</i>

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So what I am going to show you
may offer an explanation

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for some of what we've been
seeing on the property.

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You'll understand as soon
as I open this up.

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You might recognize it.

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It's a very large
neodymium magnet.

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- It's like the China syndrome of magnets.
- Yes.

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It's capable of exerting
quite a bit of force.

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Yeah, I mean,
you can lose a finger

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- under a magnet like that.
- Yeah.

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<i>A neodymium magnet is a magnet</i>

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<i>that's made out of neodymium,
iron and boron</i>

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<i>and is a really powerful magnet.</i>

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<i>But when Erik opens up
this case,</i>

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<i>and he shows us this magnet,</i>

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I'm looking at this thinking,

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"What does this have to do
with not digging on the ranch?"

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This object gives us a way

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to reproduce some of the effects
that we've seen

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on the property, ongoing.

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How did you reproduce
the effect?

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I can actually show it to you.

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- Okay.
- Now, these guys have seen it,

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but if you'd like, we can go in.

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- Yeah. No, I'd love to see that.
- I'll do a quick demo.

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- Yeah, let's do that.
- Sure.

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So, guys,

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what you see right there,
that's actually a still shot

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from a video that I made

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<i>the first time
I came to this ranch.</i>

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<i>- From your phone?
- From the phone.</i>

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<i>When I went to
the top of the mesa,</i>

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<i>I was getting artifact
like this.</i>

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<i>It was when we got down
to Homestead 2,</i>

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it finally cleared up and I was
able to take a normal picture.

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So, the question I have is,
well, what would it take

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to make that happen?

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- Right.
- Can I reproduce that effect?

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<i>Before I came
to Skinwalker Ranch,</i>

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<i>I'd heard that in addition
to UFO sightings</i>

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<i>and animal mutilations,
there were also a lot</i>

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<i>of strange electrical phenomena,</i>

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like cell phones and electronics

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that just suddenly
wouldn't work.

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Down here on the countertop,
what I've got

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is a second magnet.

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This fixture lets us do this

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in a little more
controlled fashion.

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- We're gonna watch the effect...
- All right.

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- ...show up on this-this phone.
- I got it. Let's do it.

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All right.

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All right, now, look, you're
gonna go through a position.

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I hold it at the position...

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Right. Yeah.

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- That's right. Right there.
- There you go.

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- There it is.
- Right there.

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So I can make it happen.

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- Very cool, Erik.
- I'll tell you what,

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I'm-a hold the phone, Erik.
You move the magnet.

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And so what I'm seeing is that

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when I go through a certain
point, I'll get the effect.

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Well, that's interesting.

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<i>Now I'm curious to find out</i>

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<i>where Eric is going
with all this.</i>

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Now, does he think
there's some giant magnet buried

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under the ground that's causing
some of these strange phenomena?

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<i>Is that why he and the other
guys are afraid to dig?</i>

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Pretty interesting, right?

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- Yeah, every interesting.
- It's interesting.

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Not exactly sure
what it all means just yet.

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Yeah.

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And what has given me pause

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is whatever is generating
the malfunction on our devices

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is related to your injury
and to the other

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unpleasant experiences
that people have had

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on this property.

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<i>A couple of years ago,</i>

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I had been warned
not to dig on this ranch,

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which I thought
was absolutely ridiculous.

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<i>So I paid zero attention to I,</i>

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<i>and ended up getting
very, very sick, hospitalized.</i>

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<i>I had fluid that separated
the fatty tissue from my skull.</i>

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<i>And to this day, my doctors</i>

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<i>still haven't come up
with an explanation.</i>

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So, I'll tell you, I applaud
that you've looked for something

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that you can do
in a controlled manner

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and reproduce something
that you've seen.

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Now here's the thing,

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I've yet to hear
anything tell me

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that this magnetic field thing
is a reason not to dig.

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So, I think we have not
ruled out the possibility

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that we have something active

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beneath the surface
of this property.

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We have some evidence,
at least, to support the idea

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that there may be a magnetic
field-generating device

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or devices or something,

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located on or beneath this
property, or perhaps above it.

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So, until we have done
all the noninvasive work,

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I don't think we're ready
to start digging.

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That's more my mind-set.

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There's no data
that's been on the table

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that tells us
digging is correlated

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to anything that causes events.

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But a lot of the things bad
happen more often when you dig.

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- Look, we're just trying to do the best
that we can out here. - No, I get it.

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And without getting people hurt.

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I- - Hey, I appreciate that.

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I think we're all closer to
the same point than we realize.

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Erik, if we set out and we
do all of these different tests

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and use those to guide us
as to a point that we could dig,

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would you feel
comfortable with that?

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- I think that's the approach that
I'm advocating. - Sure.

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I- I like that. Let's...

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Yeah, I'm confident.

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When we've exhausted
all the options,

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the noninvasive options.

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We've talked about it enough.

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I mean, w-- let's figure out
what we're doing.

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What is our first step? What are
we gonna do, like, tomorrow?

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- Okay.
- That's fair enough.

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I think the first thing
that's got to be done,

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just from a safety standpoint,
is we need some experts

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to come in here to do a full
sweep of the ranch for safety.

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Measure radiological and RF and
microwaves on the whole ranch.

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Let's make sure that it's safe
just to be here;

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- we're not getting slow cooked or
something. - Yeah, we can do that.

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You know, we've got people
that can come to the ranch,

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do a full sweep of radio
frequency radiation tomorrow.

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- That sounds great to me. What do
you guys think? -

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- Well, let's go, let's do it.
- Yeah.

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Okay.

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<i>So, how many people
actually have</i>

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access to the ranch?

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Very few.

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We do our very best
to try to keep

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the integrity of the science
that's going on here.

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So, actually, today,

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they got the team out there
doing the radiation sweep

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- and the RF sweep.
- Good. Good.

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Following our discussion in
the command center yesterday,

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we invited two different
companies up to the ranch.

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<i>The first will look for
dangerous levels of radiation</i>

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<i>and the second
will look for microwaves.</i>

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<i>Now, if everything checks out,
then we'll be safe</i>

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<i>to conduct
some more focused experiments</i>

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and find out where the strange
electromagnetic energy

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on the ranch is coming from.

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<i>We're gonna continue
to head across the ranch.</i>

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You can see the old building.

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This is what we call
Homestead 2.

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There are specific places
on the ranch

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<i>where I've even personally
witnessed some shadow figures.</i>

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<i>I've heard voices
on multiple occasions.</i>

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<i>I've had individuals with me
that heard the voices, too.</i>

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<i>The interesting thing
is I have no idea</i>

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<i>whether it's an actual
audible voice</i>

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<i>or something that's playing out
in my head.</i>

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It was as if
someone was standing

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right in front of me,
talking to me,

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<i>telling me to either stop
what I was doing or to leave.</i>

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Now, is this
all Indian reservation

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part of the ranch here or is
this part of the other property?

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Ute tribe is just right up
on top of this hill right here.

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Okay.

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The fascinating thing is there's

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a lot of Native Americans that,
to this day,

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they tell us that
they look to the east,

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they won't even acknowledge
that the ranch exists.

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That's strange.

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The Utes and the Navajos
actually have

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quite a storied past.

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<i>They originally started off
as allies and trading partners</i>

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<i>and then as generations went on,</i>

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<i>relationships started
to become strained.</i>

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<i>So much so that when the
U. S. government sent soldiers</i>

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<i>out to the Southwest</i>

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<i>to protect the white settlers
from the Navajo tribe,</i>

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<i>the Ute tribe joined forces
with the soldiers.</i>

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<i>And as retribution, the Navajos
actually cursed this land</i>

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<i>with evil spirits
known as skinwalkers,</i>

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<i>which are evil entities</i>

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<i>that can take many different
forms and shapes.</i>

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<i>So, where's the north border</i>

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on the other side of the mesa,
how far does it go?

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Just to about
that back cliff over there.

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- Really?
- Yeah, just short of it.

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It looks different from the...

236
00:10:47,063 --> 00:10:48,940
<i>Hey, Thomas. Do you copy?</i>

237
00:10:51,067 --> 00:10:53,068
Yeah, Bryant. Go ahead.

238
00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:55,904
<i>Yeah, we're up in the sinkhole
doing this radiation sweep.</i>

239
00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:58,657
<i>You guys should get just
straight over here.</i>

240
00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:00,660
<i>We found some crazy stuff
you're gonna want to see.</i>

241
00:11:08,418 --> 00:11:11,336
<i>While Tom Winterton and
I are taking a tour of the ranch,</i>

242
00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:13,881
we get this emergency call
and it's from the team

243
00:11:13,882 --> 00:11:16,008
that's up on the mesa
scanning for harmful levels

244
00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:17,718
of radiation and microwaves.

245
00:11:17,719 --> 00:11:19,136
<i>All right,</i>

246
00:11:19,137 --> 00:11:21,680
we will head straight
over there. You'll see us soon.

247
00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:24,141
<i>My first thought was
whether or not the guys were getting</i>

248
00:11:24,142 --> 00:11:26,685
the kinds of crazy readings
we measured yesterday

249
00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:28,395
when we were up on the mesa.

250
00:11:30,481 --> 00:11:33,192
<i>I mean, that's a significant
amount of energy right there.</i>

251
00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,444
<i>We found electromagnetic
radiation</i>

252
00:11:35,445 --> 00:11:37,529
<i>that could be harmful to humans.</i>

253
00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,781
And it's shifted now.

254
00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:42,034
Now it's coming
from that direction.

255
00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,329
- And it's all radiation.
- Yes. Yeah.

256
00:11:48,416 --> 00:11:50,375
<i>- I see them standing up there.
- You see them up there?</i>

257
00:11:50,376 --> 00:11:52,711
<i>- Yeah.
- We got to walk from here on up.</i>

258
00:11:52,712 --> 00:11:53,713
<i>Yeah, okay.</i>

259
00:12:09,312 --> 00:12:11,563
Hey, guys.

260
00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:14,566
The sinkhole is right over here.
Obviously, Thomas knows.

261
00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:16,109
These guys picked up stuff
I thought

262
00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:18,445
you guys would be interested
in seeing yourselves.

263
00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:21,365
Wow. Look at that.

264
00:12:21,366 --> 00:12:25,410
- Hey, guys.
- There's Jim down there.

265
00:12:25,411 --> 00:12:26,954
- How far does it go?
- It goes down.

266
00:12:26,955 --> 00:12:28,580
Quite a ways.

267
00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:32,167
<i>We get up there and
there's a hole in the ground.</i>

268
00:12:32,168 --> 00:12:34,836
<i>It's kind of like a little
cave, and it's big enough</i>

269
00:12:34,837 --> 00:12:37,130
for three or four people
to get down in.

270
00:12:37,131 --> 00:12:39,216
This one is interesting
just because

271
00:12:39,217 --> 00:12:41,928
- air flows out of it and things like that.
- Yeah, you can feel it.

272
00:12:43,554 --> 00:12:44,596
We've had a few people

273
00:12:44,597 --> 00:12:46,473
that have climbed down
in that hole

274
00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:48,267
and experienced
some pretty extreme

275
00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:50,853
vertigo and nauseousness.

276
00:12:53,314 --> 00:12:54,856
<i>The sinkhole is a spot</i>

277
00:12:54,857 --> 00:12:57,526
that I found one day when I was
hiking up above Homestead 2

278
00:12:57,527 --> 00:12:58,986
and the thing
that made it remarkable

279
00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:00,529
the first time I found it was

280
00:13:00,530 --> 00:13:03,615
<i>there is a cavity
that continues down.</i>

281
00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:06,952
<i>We've been trying to figure out
how far down there it goes,</i>

282
00:13:06,953 --> 00:13:09,454
<i>and it was just
blasting cold air,</i>

283
00:13:09,455 --> 00:13:11,456
<i>just like an air conditioner.</i>

284
00:13:11,457 --> 00:13:14,793
Myself, as well as,
several other individuals that

285
00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:17,504
I was there to witness
have had experiences

286
00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:19,423
when we climbed down
inside that hole.

287
00:13:19,424 --> 00:13:22,342
<i>You know, I kind of shrugged t
off as heat stroke at the tim,</i>

288
00:13:22,343 --> 00:13:24,553
<i>but then, other individuals
that we've taken up there</i>

289
00:13:24,554 --> 00:13:27,681
<i>since then have experienced
the same thing.</i>

290
00:13:27,682 --> 00:13:31,143
Jeff is with Semper,
and he's measuring

291
00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:33,395
radio wave frequencies
and things like that.

292
00:13:33,396 --> 00:13:35,355
Travis and Casey
are with Qal-Tek.

293
00:13:35,356 --> 00:13:37,149
They're doing
a full radiation sweep.

294
00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,818
- All right. - We're also,
while we're in there, looking for

295
00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:42,237
V.O.C.s,
and other chemicals.

296
00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:44,156
Such as?

297
00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:46,241
Such as nerve agents
or toxic chemicals.

298
00:13:46,242 --> 00:13:48,035
- Okay.
- And we actually got a really

299
00:13:48,036 --> 00:13:50,203
high hit,
on our V. O. C. levels,

300
00:13:50,204 --> 00:13:53,999
about 3,600 parts per billion,

301
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,668
which is a really high
abnormality.

302
00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:58,754
- Dangerous level or just high?
- Dangerous levels, certainly.

303
00:13:58,755 --> 00:14:01,715
It was a real quick hit.
It was, it was almost as if

304
00:14:01,716 --> 00:14:03,717
there was a ventilation
that plumed.

305
00:14:03,718 --> 00:14:05,594
We got a reading
off of that and then,

306
00:14:05,595 --> 00:14:07,220
- um...
- It disappeared.

307
00:14:07,221 --> 00:14:09,097
- It disappeared.
- Really?

308
00:14:09,098 --> 00:14:11,141
- Yep.
- That-that's intriguing.

309
00:14:11,142 --> 00:14:13,560
There are all sorts
of volatile organic compounds

310
00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:15,937
like, formaldehyde, benzene,

311
00:14:15,938 --> 00:14:19,066
<i>but this sinkhole is pretty far
away from anything man-made,</i>

312
00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:21,985
<i>so their presence here
is really strange.</i>

313
00:14:21,986 --> 00:14:23,904
The V. O. C. level,

314
00:14:23,905 --> 00:14:26,615
I thought that was significant,
3,700 parts per billion,

315
00:14:26,616 --> 00:14:28,658
- that's...
- It was very concerning.

316
00:14:28,659 --> 00:14:31,286
Well, let me ask you this:

317
00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:33,205
Did you take the RF meter
down inside?

318
00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:34,539
I haven't been down
in there yet.

319
00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:35,957
'Cause it'd be interesting
to see if you're

320
00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:38,043
getting anything
in there, RF-wise.

321
00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:39,961
What if I go down
in there with you?

322
00:14:39,962 --> 00:14:41,880
You guys think it's safe
to go down in there, right?

323
00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,715
I mean, it wasn't--
it was transient, right?

324
00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:45,383
We'll keep an air monitor
with you

325
00:14:45,384 --> 00:14:46,760
so we can make sure
there isn't any

326
00:14:46,761 --> 00:14:48,095
air displacement,
oxygen displacement.

327
00:14:48,096 --> 00:14:50,473
All right. Well, let's go
down in there and see.

328
00:15:02,485 --> 00:15:06,279
Do you want to send in
the O2 sensor first?

329
00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,490
Makes the most safety sense.

330
00:15:08,491 --> 00:15:10,534
I think that's just--
that's smart.

331
00:15:10,535 --> 00:15:12,078
I like not dying.

332
00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:17,999
I'll jump in and make sure
O2 sensors levels are good.

333
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,961
I like having the air quality
sensor in there first.

334
00:15:20,962 --> 00:15:23,255
For sure.

335
00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:30,887
All right, we got normal levels
here, so you're good.

336
00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:32,180
All right, bring it on in.

337
00:15:32,181 --> 00:15:35,600
I'll take measurements
if you call them up to me.

338
00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:37,144
Yeah.

339
00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:39,604
I don't know if anyone brought
a flashlight, you can see.

340
00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:41,148
You got one?

341
00:15:41,149 --> 00:15:43,567
Your phone will work. That's
what they're made for, right?

342
00:15:43,568 --> 00:15:45,527
Wow.
You know, there's no telling

343
00:15:45,528 --> 00:15:47,112
how far that thing
goes down in there.

344
00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:48,280
If anything
coming out of there...

345
00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:49,573
Yeah,
you're gonna get it, right?

346
00:15:49,574 --> 00:15:50,782
Yep, that's right.

347
00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:52,701
I did see a spike.

348
00:15:52,702 --> 00:15:55,078
An instantaneous spike at around

349
00:15:55,079 --> 00:15:59,374
one two, four, zero,
let's call it.

350
00:15:59,375 --> 00:16:01,793
I'm seeing only
background levels here,

351
00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:05,630
but when I put the antenna
down by the hole,

352
00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:07,966
I clearly see
some spikes forming.

353
00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:09,759
- I've got some peaks showing.
- You sure do.

354
00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,887
- Yeah.
- So, right at the opening?

355
00:16:11,888 --> 00:16:15,558
Right at the opening, when I put
the antenna down in there.

356
00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:19,812
Okay, Erik,
we're on preset number two.

357
00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:24,733
Let me, let me ask a question
real quick, guys.

358
00:16:24,734 --> 00:16:26,611
Do any of y'all feel
swimmy-headed at all?

359
00:16:28,821 --> 00:16:30,155
No, you good?

360
00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:31,948
You feeling it?

361
00:16:31,949 --> 00:16:33,408
I don't know.

362
00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:35,493
Slightly, I felt like I was
not holding my balance well

363
00:16:35,494 --> 00:16:38,497
for a second there. That's why
I put my hand over on the rock.

364
00:16:41,292 --> 00:16:44,920
And I'm feeling it now, too.

365
00:16:44,921 --> 00:16:47,839
- Any change in the oxygen level?
- Yeah, that's what I was wondering.

366
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,716
- No, it's consistent.
- Sure.

367
00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:51,510
It's weird, it feels weird.

368
00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:55,055
Yeah, m-my knees
are starting to,

369
00:16:55,056 --> 00:16:56,848
actually kind of starting
to tremble.

370
00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,142
I'm-I'm feeling kind of shaky.

371
00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,647
That's not all right.

372
00:17:04,649 --> 00:17:07,359
One of the things that's the
largest of concern That was weird.

373
00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,903
I mean, I-I feel like

374
00:17:09,904 --> 00:17:11,571
I just worked out
and I didn't eat before.

375
00:17:11,572 --> 00:17:13,490
You know, feels weird.

376
00:17:13,491 --> 00:17:16,076
Are any of you
other guys feeling anything

377
00:17:16,077 --> 00:17:17,869
- bad down there at all?
- No.

378
00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:19,956
I just felt like
I was gonna bonk.

379
00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:23,917
Dude, I will tell you
my phone battery just went...

380
00:17:25,336 --> 00:17:27,879
- Your battery's dead on your phone?
- Yeah.

381
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,756
Your battery's
dead, too, ain't it?

382
00:17:29,757 --> 00:17:31,091
It shut off.

383
00:17:31,092 --> 00:17:34,094
Clearly, something

384
00:17:34,095 --> 00:17:38,974
is in that hole that-that made
me have a weird, you know, like,

385
00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:42,143
low blood sugar feeling, and I,
I don't know what it was.

386
00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:44,646
<i>We have what we believe
to be safe practices here,</i>

387
00:17:44,647 --> 00:17:46,898
but there are
no guarantees here,

388
00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:48,608
and no one knows that
better then Tom.

389
00:17:48,609 --> 00:17:51,403
You guys got all
the measurements

390
00:17:51,404 --> 00:17:53,989
that y'all were planning
to take up here, right?

391
00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:56,491
We got a good surveillance of
the entire ranch at this point.

392
00:17:56,492 --> 00:17:59,160
We get back down to the truck,
we can dive into our results,

393
00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:01,079
take a little deeper look
at that,

394
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,998
and then, we can get
some further analysis

395
00:18:02,999 --> 00:18:05,500
and try to look
at some deeper details.

396
00:18:05,501 --> 00:18:06,751
Let's-let's go look at that.

397
00:18:06,752 --> 00:18:08,587
- I'm-I'm good for that.
- Sounds good to me.

398
00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,755
Everyone be safe going down.

399
00:18:10,756 --> 00:18:12,549
<i>I'm convinced
that whatever came over me</i>

400
00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:14,801
<i>while I was down in that cave
had nothing to do</i>

401
00:18:14,802 --> 00:18:17,762
<i>with oxygen deprivation
or toxic gas levels.</i>

402
00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:20,682
<i>Our oxygen meter was indicating
there was plenty of air,</i>

403
00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:22,475
but then, all of a sudden,

404
00:18:22,476 --> 00:18:24,102
the batteries
in our cell phones go dead.

405
00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:26,021
Boom. Just like that.

406
00:18:26,022 --> 00:18:29,441
<i>We've seen some
stuff that we expected to see,</i>

407
00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,151
some stuff that
we didn't expect to see.

408
00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:33,528
Our concern seems to be around
these underground emissions,

409
00:18:33,529 --> 00:18:36,489
that's where we're seeing
the most of these phenomenons.

410
00:18:36,490 --> 00:18:38,491
I want to tell you we're-we're
still gonna be looking

411
00:18:38,492 --> 00:18:41,161
- for more holes to crawl into
and more things... - Sure.

412
00:18:41,162 --> 00:18:42,787
...to dig into and look under

413
00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:45,540
and-and-and it's possible
we'll uncover

414
00:18:45,541 --> 00:18:47,167
something that's dangerous.

415
00:18:47,168 --> 00:18:48,293
- Right?
- Correct.

416
00:18:48,294 --> 00:18:50,170
In some of the confined spaces,

417
00:18:50,171 --> 00:18:51,713
those are areas
you might want to be

418
00:18:51,714 --> 00:18:53,423
aware of when you're
working in those areas,

419
00:18:53,424 --> 00:18:56,509
but in the open area
and-and the ranch and so forth,

420
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:58,053
nothing of concern.

421
00:18:58,054 --> 00:19:00,221
It's okay to walk around out
here, we're not getting cooked,

422
00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:02,182
but we might find
some weird transient things.

423
00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:03,975
- Absolutely.
- And in that hole,

424
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:05,977
- there's something that we
can't explain yet? - Right.

425
00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:08,563
So, in summary
on the radiation exposure

426
00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:10,649
is one of the things
we haven't figured out

427
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,026
across the entire ranch,
and we don't know this,

428
00:19:13,027 --> 00:19:15,487
um, is the exact levels of that.

429
00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:17,489
So we brought something
for your guys's team

430
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:20,200
that'll kind of watch you guys
on an individual level.

431
00:19:20,201 --> 00:19:22,202
This is a dosimeter.

432
00:19:22,203 --> 00:19:25,038
This is gonna primarily work
from a radiological perspective.

433
00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:26,498
If you're getting
above the normal

434
00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:29,042
background radiation exposure,
we want to know.

435
00:19:29,043 --> 00:19:30,710
It's looking for stuff
that you are,

436
00:19:30,711 --> 00:19:32,170
immediately, your body is in.

437
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,089
So anything that's

438
00:19:34,090 --> 00:19:37,008
really in the window
of harmful to humans,

439
00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:38,426
or impactful to humans,

440
00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:40,220
our instrumentation sets
will see.

441
00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:42,931
Okay, guys, so we'll
hand these out to you guys.

442
00:19:42,932 --> 00:19:45,016
- Travis, there's yours.
- Thank you, man. Thank you.

443
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:47,060
<i>- Erik, here's yours.
- These dosimeters</i>

444
00:19:47,061 --> 00:19:49,187
<i>will work like a canary
in a coal mine.</i>

445
00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:52,190
<i>They're gonna be very helpful
in alerting us if we run into</i>

446
00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:55,068
any more sudden bursts
of harmful radiation.

447
00:19:55,069 --> 00:19:58,238
We'll lead you out
and escort you off the ranch.

448
00:19:58,239 --> 00:20:00,198
Thank you again.
Appreciate all your time.

449
00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:02,702
- We'll pack up our stuff and we will
be ready to roll. - Okay, sounds great.

450
00:20:10,793 --> 00:20:13,294
<i>Well, here we
are, your second time on,</i>

451
00:20:13,295 --> 00:20:16,589
day two and we're already
experiencing more crazy stuff.

452
00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:19,050
Crazy, I was not expecting
that at all.

453
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:22,679
I got sick and I felt weird
and-and lightheaded and dizzy.

454
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,765
The ranch has always
responded, to new visitors.

455
00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:27,642
I didn't expect it
to be this quick, though.

456
00:20:27,643 --> 00:20:29,894
I didn't expect to see anything,
so this is amazing.

457
00:20:29,895 --> 00:20:31,521
Doesn't surprise me, though.

458
00:20:31,522 --> 00:20:33,732
I mean, you know,
where the sinkhole sits

459
00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:35,775
is right up above Homestead 2,

460
00:20:35,776 --> 00:20:39,738
which has been
the reported site of a lot

461
00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:42,907
of this paranormal activity
that Bigelow's team reported.

462
00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,746
In 2016,

463
00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:50,415
I purchased Skinwalker Ranch
from Robert Bigelow.

464
00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:54,085
<i>Robert Bigelow is best known as
the billionaire entrepreneur,</i>

465
00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:57,255
<i>real estate developer
and now aerospace entrepreneur.</i>

466
00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,133
<i>Mr. Bigelow
also had an interest</i>

467
00:21:00,134 --> 00:21:02,260
<i>in everything from UFOs</i>

468
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,763
<i>to the paranormal.</i>

469
00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,765
<i>In the early '90s,</i>

470
00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:09,267
<i>Robert Bigelow bought
Skinwalker Ranch.</i>

471
00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:11,603
<i>His team conducted</i>

472
00:21:11,604 --> 00:21:14,606
<i>a very aggressive
scientific investigation.</i>

473
00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:16,274
<i>The Bigelow team ended up</i>

474
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:19,110
having all sorts of
strange things happen.

475
00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:23,114
<i>They started seeing
everything from</i>

476
00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:24,616
<i>electromagnetic anomalies</i>

477
00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:26,493
<i>centered around
the old homesteads,</i>

478
00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,620
<i>cattle mutilations...</i>

479
00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,789
<i>It involves the full gamut</i>

480
00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:35,043
<i>of unexplained phenomena
that we continue to monitor.</i>

481
00:21:35,044 --> 00:21:37,962
Most of what Mr. Bigelow
and his team

482
00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:40,340
studied and reported
on the ranch

483
00:21:40,341 --> 00:21:44,469
remains either classified
or confidential

484
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:46,138
and is locked away.

485
00:21:50,184 --> 00:21:51,851
You guys got everything?

486
00:21:51,852 --> 00:21:53,144
- Yep.
- All right.

487
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:54,979
If we don't,
it's a long way back.

488
00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:56,314
<i>Later that day,</i>

489
00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:57,899
<i>after we got the "all clear"</i>

490
00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,651
<i>that the ranch
was safe to explore...</i>

491
00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,486
Dragon, I guess
I'll ride with you.

492
00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:03,988
<i>...Dragon, Jim Segala,
Tom Winterton and I</i>

493
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:05,406
<i>decided to do
a good old-fashioned</i>

494
00:22:05,407 --> 00:22:06,742
stakeout near the mesa.

495
00:22:08,035 --> 00:22:10,161
<i>From what I've observed,
the mesa is pretty much</i>

496
00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:12,247
<i>ground zero for most
of the strange activity</i>

497
00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:14,040
<i>that's been happening
on the ranch.</i>

498
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:17,001
<i>So we're all hoping that,
by staying up all night,</i>

499
00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:20,088
<i>we'll be able to see
and record firsthand</i>

500
00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:21,756
<i>the strange lights
and glowing effects</i>

501
00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:23,675
<i>that people have reported
seeing over the years.</i>

502
00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:24,843
This a good as spot as any.

503
00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:26,845
This is perfect--
we see the mesa,

504
00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:29,722
the moon's gonna be giving us
some backlighting.

505
00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:31,684
Let's start grabbing stuff out
and putting it up.

506
00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:38,857
Let's start hooking up
the experiments.

507
00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:40,692
I want the telescope up.

508
00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:43,361
Get the sound system set up.

509
00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:46,364
<i>We have a lot of
diagnostic equipment.</i>

510
00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:48,074
We can measure
radio and microwaves,

511
00:22:48,075 --> 00:22:49,784
<i>we can measure magnetic field,</i>

512
00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:51,202
<i>we can measure infrared.</i>

513
00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:53,371
<i>We've got a lot
of different things</i>

514
00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:54,539
<i>that we're going to use tonigt</i>

515
00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,207
<i>and, see what we can find out.</i>

516
00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,625
Hey, what movie are we watching?

517
00:22:57,626 --> 00:22:59,252
<i>Aliens? Predator? What?</i>

518
00:22:59,253 --> 00:23:01,254
We're gonna hook
the cameras up to it,

519
00:23:01,255 --> 00:23:02,964
so we can look at it
on the big screen.

520
00:23:02,965 --> 00:23:04,299
Cool.

521
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,218
<i>So, the 512 acres of the ranch</i>

522
00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:09,721
are under 24-hour
video surveillance

523
00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:13,850
<i>by dozens of security
and surveillance cameras,</i>

524
00:23:13,851 --> 00:23:17,061
<i>and Erik keeps track of these
around the clock and is able</i>

525
00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:19,355
<i>to view them
from the command center.</i>

526
00:23:19,356 --> 00:23:21,274
Hey, Erik. Are you there?

527
00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:22,734
<i>Copy, yeah.</i>

528
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:23,902
Okay, so you can see us, then?

529
00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:26,279
<i>I can see everything
you're doing.</i>

530
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,157
<i>Erik Bard makes
sure that pretty much</i>

531
00:23:29,158 --> 00:23:31,743
<i>every inch of this ranch is
covered by a camera somewhere.</i>

532
00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,745
<i>Although he can pretty much se</i>

533
00:23:33,746 --> 00:23:36,247
<i>everything we're doing tonight
from the command center,</i>

534
00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:38,791
<i>he won't be able to get
the kind of close-up images</i>

535
00:23:38,792 --> 00:23:40,627
<i>and information we can get.</i>

536
00:23:40,628 --> 00:23:42,962
And he certainly wouldn't
be able to investigate it

537
00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,422
as quickly as we can.

538
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:50,386
Let's bring the lights down now.

539
00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:52,890
And let's start looking
at the mesa in the infrared.

540
00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:56,142
That is so cool.

541
00:23:56,143 --> 00:23:58,686
That is really cool.

542
00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:01,147
<i>As humans,
we're only able to see light</i>

543
00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:02,607
in a relatively narrow spectrum.

544
00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:03,942
But by using an infrared camera,

545
00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:05,443
we're gonna be able
to see things

546
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,111
that are further out
on that spectrum

547
00:24:07,112 --> 00:24:09,447
<i>that we otherwise
might not be able to see</i>

548
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,866
<i>with our naked eyes.</i>

549
00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,243
- That's amazing.
- Isn't that awesome?

550
00:24:14,244 --> 00:24:15,662
- That's-that's a good view
right there. Look at that. - Wow.

551
00:24:15,663 --> 00:24:16,830
Yeah, that's really good view.

552
00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:19,290
Hey, Jim's got the laser.

553
00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:20,625
- There we are.
- So, I'm gonna go

554
00:24:20,626 --> 00:24:22,126
walk out here with the laser.

555
00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,628
Yep. Yep.

556
00:24:23,629 --> 00:24:26,255
- You ready?
- Yep.

557
00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:29,467
<i>We brought a very large</i>

558
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,803
green laser that allows us to

559
00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:35,306
<i>light up a beam
all the way up to the mesa.</i>

560
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,683
You can put the laser spot
right there,

561
00:24:36,684 --> 00:24:38,059
then I'll look
right at the spot.

562
00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:39,310
I'll come out here
so I don't hurt anybody.

563
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,980
<i>That way, we can focus
our infrared cameras</i>

564
00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:44,482
on that spot so we know
exactly where we are.

565
00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:46,818
Perfect. Right there.

566
00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:48,319
There it is.

567
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,947
Hold on.
Is that...? There's two.

568
00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,365
Look.

569
00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:53,450
Do that again.

570
00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:56,328
How is it doing that?

571
00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:59,706
<i>When we shined</i>

572
00:24:59,707 --> 00:25:02,333
the laser on the mesa and saw it

573
00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,252
<i>in the image of the camera,</i>

574
00:25:04,253 --> 00:25:07,839
<i>we also noticed there was
a smaller image just above it.</i>

575
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,799
That is so weird.

576
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,509
- What the heck is that?
- You know what it is,

577
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,845
it's reflecting off
of the surface.

578
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:15,305
How is it doing that?

579
00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:23,563
The actual laser spot
that is coming back

580
00:25:23,564 --> 00:25:25,357
and hitting the camera
is the little one.

581
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,568
We need to go up there
and look at it.

582
00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:30,486
Hey, Erik, do you copy?

583
00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:32,113
<i>- I do.
- You interested in going</i>

584
00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:33,489
up on the mesa,

585
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:34,866
while these guys sit back
and monitor it?

586
00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:36,200
<i>You bet.</i>

587
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,536
Well, let's go get Erik
and let's head up there.

588
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,497
You ready, man?

589
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:42,540
Yep, let's do it.

590
00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:43,542
Okay, let's go.

591
00:25:55,471 --> 00:25:58,890
Gotta turn my headlamp on.

592
00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,141
All right, let's go.

593
00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:11,235
It's like walking
on Mars or something.

594
00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:14,906
<i>The rocks and the soil of
the Skinwalker Ridge mesa</i>

595
00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:16,449
<i>have an extremely high amount</i>

596
00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:17,950
<i>of some kind of
crystalline material.</i>

597
00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:19,619
<i>So I'm wondering</i>

598
00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:21,746
<i>if there's a reflection
happening up on the mesa</i>

599
00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:23,581
<i>that's causing the laser beam</i>

600
00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:26,125
<i>to split into two points
of light instead of one.</i>

601
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:31,631
There are these
little white disks everywhere.

602
00:26:31,632 --> 00:26:33,674
I don't know what it is.

603
00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:35,676
You are getting
pretty close to that laser.

604
00:26:35,677 --> 00:26:38,013
<i>You'll have to start
making a descent.</i>

605
00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:48,439
I'm gonna turn
and sit right here.

606
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,816
All right?

607
00:26:49,817 --> 00:26:51,819
And now I am going
to kill this light.

608
00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:57,657
All right.

609
00:26:57,658 --> 00:27:00,202
Does the laser seem
like it lost intensity?

610
00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:03,621
The laser's lost power.

611
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:06,249
Whoa, where'd that laser go?

612
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,458
And it went out.

613
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:08,501
And it went out, just now.

614
00:27:08,502 --> 00:27:09,919
Radio back to them and ask 'em

615
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,295
if they're doing something
to the laser.

616
00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:12,588
Hey, Travis?

617
00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:14,799
<i>Yeah, go ahead, Jim.</i>

618
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,301
So, we're--
before the light went out,

619
00:27:17,302 --> 00:27:18,469
the laser light went out,

620
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,680
<i>you were standing exactly whee</i>

621
00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:24,183
<i>the main glow of the laser was</i>

622
00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:25,518
on the screen.

623
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:26,978
<i>Really?</i>

624
00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:29,021
<i>That's correct.</i>

625
00:27:29,022 --> 00:27:30,439
I'll go back up there

626
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,067
- and see what's going on.
- Hold on, guys.

627
00:27:46,456 --> 00:27:49,333
<i>I just replaced the
batteries in this laser.</i>

628
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,335
<i>There's no way
that it's the batteries</i>

629
00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:52,712
<i>that are causing it
to malfunction.</i>

630
00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:54,547
<i>I tried everything</i>

631
00:27:54,548 --> 00:27:56,215
<i>to get it to come back on again,</i>

632
00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:58,593
but it's just one of
those million things

633
00:27:58,594 --> 00:28:00,344
that happens
at Skinwalker Ranch.

634
00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,972
The button's pushed in
and everything.

635
00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:04,682
It-It's dead.

636
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:06,851
<i>Hey, Travis?</i>

637
00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:08,519
Yeah. Go ahead, Jim.

638
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,314
<i>The laser is dead.</i>

639
00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:14,358
<i>I think it's crazy</i>

640
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,860
<i>that as soon as we got here,</i>

641
00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:17,570
<i>the laser went out.</i>

642
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:20,031
Hardly the first time something
like that's happened here.

643
00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:22,325
Unfortunately, it's typical.

644
00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:23,367
All right, guys.

645
00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:25,202
I think we've seen enough here.

646
00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:27,538
Let's carefully make
our way back down the ridge.

647
00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,373
Carefully.

648
00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:32,376
<i>The laser
experiment was inconclusive,</i>

649
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:35,546
but what we did discover
with this experiment

650
00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:37,548
is that the mesa
is highly reflective.

651
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:40,259
<i>Now, that's interesting,</i>

652
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,094
<i>especially since
we've seen in the past</i>

653
00:28:42,095 --> 00:28:44,764
<i>the mesa seeming to glow</i>

654
00:28:44,765 --> 00:28:50,061
<i>and there being beams of light
coming up from the mesa.</i>

655
00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:51,604
There's something to this place,

656
00:28:51,605 --> 00:28:52,772
I just don't know what it is.

657
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,066
Whoa, look at that.

658
00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:56,692
Holy crap.

659
00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:57,902
What is that?

660
00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:01,156
That reflective flickering.

661
00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:08,287
Hey, guys, we just noticed

662
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:09,914
on the screen here a second ago.

663
00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:12,416
Do you see the glow?
The flicker?

664
00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:13,834
Up behind there.

665
00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:15,169
Yeah.

666
00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:16,712
It's flickering.

667
00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:18,172
Kind of flashing behind it
or something.

668
00:29:18,173 --> 00:29:20,926
What does it look like
on infrared?

669
00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:26,764
It looks like the whole
top of the mountain is glowing.

670
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:28,808
Yeah,
it's almost like the outline of it.

671
00:29:28,809 --> 00:29:29,934
Wow.

672
00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:32,770
I mean,
it's clearly doing something.

673
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,981
It kind of looks like, the...

674
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:37,650
Did you hear that?

675
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:40,486
Yeah.

676
00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:43,155
Like a growl or something.

677
00:29:43,156 --> 00:29:44,157
Yeah.

678
00:29:46,994 --> 00:29:48,911
It was right over there.

679
00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:51,415
Right?

680
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,127
<i>Being out here in the
wilderness, it's not unusual</i>

681
00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:58,337
<i>to hear growls
and strange noises and stuff.</i>

682
00:29:58,338 --> 00:30:00,297
<i>It could be from a mountain lion</i>

683
00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:03,135
<i>or a coyote
or even a pack of wild dogs.</i>

684
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:08,472
Look, the top looks less
like a silhouette now

685
00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:10,307
than it did before.

686
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:11,517
It's-it's right here, right?

687
00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:13,144
Yeah.

688
00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:14,478
<i>Till I came to the ranch,</i>

689
00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:16,147
<i>I didn't really believe
the stories I'd heard</i>

690
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:18,733
<i>about strange lights
coming off the mesa.</i>

691
00:30:18,734 --> 00:30:21,736
<i>Now I'm seeing this thing glow
at night with my own eyes.</i>

692
00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:23,237
<i>This isn't just a story,</i>

693
00:30:23,238 --> 00:30:26,532
<i>this isn't some special effect
or a hoax.</i>

694
00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:28,659
<i>This mesa is really glowing.</i>

695
00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:30,411
You know what we should do,

696
00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:31,829
is we should scan
across the mesa

697
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,372
and see if we see something else

698
00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:34,874
with the, with the camera.

699
00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,834
Well, we better hurry, 'cause
the sun's gonna be up soon.

700
00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:39,086
The sun is coming up soon.

701
00:30:39,087 --> 00:30:40,337
Yeah, all right.

702
00:30:40,338 --> 00:30:43,674
Well, let's do that.

703
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:47,303
Let's go...
pan to the west first.

704
00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:48,345
Look at that.

705
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:49,847
See how the top of that's...

706
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,849
Yeah, the top's glowing
like crazy. Look at that.

707
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:53,350
It's like the whole
top of the ridge

708
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:54,685
- is outlined in chalk.
- Wait, wait, wait, wait.

709
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,687
- All right.
- So...

710
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,397
Look, it's flashing.
Look, it is flashing

711
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:00,274
behind that big-time.

712
00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:03,070
That cloud is pulsing
like crazy.

713
00:31:05,947 --> 00:31:07,364
Look at that.

714
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:08,741
The interesting thing is

715
00:31:08,742 --> 00:31:12,161
is it almost looks like
it's a lot more defined here

716
00:31:12,162 --> 00:31:14,371
- than it is with the naked eye.
- Yeah.!

717
00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:15,414
Look, look.

718
00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:16,916
Did you see that?

719
00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:19,168
That's a definite beam. Whoa.

720
00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:21,003
It was like a beam that came
right up from the ground.

721
00:31:21,004 --> 00:31:22,046
It's gone now.

722
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:23,380
Did you guys see that?

723
00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:25,758
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Did you see that?

724
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,301
- Jim, you weren't looking.
- Look, there it is again.

725
00:31:27,302 --> 00:31:29,053
There it is.

726
00:31:29,054 --> 00:31:30,554
<i>We're looking back and
forth at the infrared camera</i>

727
00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:32,306
<i>and then back and forth
at the mesa</i>

728
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:36,477
to see what's going on and then
we notice out of the ground,

729
00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:38,896
in front of the mesa,
this beam comes up

730
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:41,232
through the sky
and tracks something.

731
00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:43,150
- There it is!
- There it is again.

732
00:31:43,151 --> 00:31:44,610
It is clearly a beam
going across there.

733
00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:46,821
There is something clearly
over the ridge.

734
00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:48,114
Do you think
that's coming from behind?

735
00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:49,533
What is that?

736
00:31:52,619 --> 00:31:54,995
- That time, did you see it sweep?
- Well,

737
00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:59,125
and you can't see anything
from looking out of here.

738
00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:00,876
It's only in infrared.

739
00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:02,711
<i>So, we're out here on the mesa,</i>

740
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:06,006
<i>investigating the strange
lights and the glowing effects</i>

741
00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:07,925
<i>that other people have been
reporting over the years.</i>

742
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:11,178
<i>What's interesting is that
we can't see these light beams</i>

743
00:32:11,179 --> 00:32:13,514
<i>when we look at the mesa
with our naked eyes.</i>

744
00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:16,392
<i>We can only see them
with the infrared camera.</i>

745
00:32:16,393 --> 00:32:18,894
We should be looking
in that direction

746
00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:21,063
to see what we can come up with.

747
00:32:21,064 --> 00:32:22,774
Right now while
something's happening.

748
00:32:25,861 --> 00:32:27,653
What are we doing with this?

749
00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:29,405
What we're attempting to do

750
00:32:29,406 --> 00:32:33,033
is measure electromagnetic
energy or frequencies.

751
00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:36,620
And what this board
will allow us to do

752
00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:40,749
is to isolate to one single
direction or one plane.

753
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:43,711
<i>We need to find out if
the glowing effect we can see</i>

754
00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:46,088
<i>on the infrared monitor is
connected to any kind of RF--</i>

755
00:32:46,089 --> 00:32:48,674
<i>or radio frequency-- radiatio.</i>

756
00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:51,468
<i>This experiment will help us
determine the direction</i>

757
00:32:51,469 --> 00:32:53,179
<i>of the radiation
that we're detecting now</i>

758
00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:56,056
<i>and maybe help us find
the direction of the source.</i>

759
00:32:56,057 --> 00:33:00,519
All right, so I would say we
hold it up about waist-high.

760
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,770
Right about-- that's good.

761
00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,063
- Now, Jim, there you go.
- Here.

762
00:33:03,064 --> 00:33:05,482
All right.

763
00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:07,651
Sweep. There you go, good.

764
00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:09,612
And keep sweeping--
it starts dropping off.

765
00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:11,530
Right?

766
00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,616
<i>The TriField
meters are little RF radios</i>

767
00:33:13,617 --> 00:33:15,034
<i>with a little antenna</i>

768
00:33:15,035 --> 00:33:17,536
just like your FM and AM radio
in your car

769
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:19,663
or at home or wherever.
It's a tuner.

770
00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,249
Yep, it's dropping, so it's not
coming from that direction.

771
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:23,417
So, let's go the other way.

772
00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:24,835
Rotate the other way now.

773
00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:26,545
<i>And this thing is set to listen</i>

774
00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:27,880
<i>to, like,
all the channels at once</i>

775
00:33:27,881 --> 00:33:29,215
<i>and just measure the signal.</i>

776
00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:34,053
It's coming from right at
where we saw that flash.

777
00:33:34,054 --> 00:33:36,430
Keep coming around.

778
00:33:36,431 --> 00:33:38,515
All right,
now it's dropped off again.

779
00:33:38,516 --> 00:33:40,851
<i>The interesting thing is</i>

780
00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,313
<i>when we pointed the RF meter
in a certain direction</i>

781
00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:45,940
<i>with the reflector behind it,</i>

782
00:33:45,941 --> 00:33:47,274
it maxed out.

783
00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:48,776
That tells us kind of
the direction

784
00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,778
the big fields are coming from.

785
00:33:50,779 --> 00:33:52,529
I mean, it's coming
from that direction

786
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,990
where we saw that beam.

787
00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:56,617
That's pretty significant
right there.

788
00:33:56,618 --> 00:33:58,452
Well, it's at least concerning.

789
00:33:58,453 --> 00:34:00,913
We're measuring nearly ten
milliwatts per meter squared.

790
00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:04,124
<i>The microwave
spikes that we're reading</i>

791
00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:06,126
<i>are getting on the level of</i>

792
00:34:06,127 --> 00:34:09,463
standing by the microwave
a few feet with the door open,

793
00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:11,090
but it's still working.

794
00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:12,800
That's dangerous levels.

795
00:34:12,801 --> 00:34:15,010
Yeah, what was that beam
that we saw?

796
00:34:15,011 --> 00:34:16,178
What was that beam?

797
00:34:16,179 --> 00:34:18,389
There is something here,

798
00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:20,099
on this ranch,

799
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,394
that's broadcasting microwaves
and at times,

800
00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:26,355
reached powers that's like
a microwave oven.

801
00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:29,066
And it's not Wi-Fi, it's not...

802
00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,151
- normal transmission.
- It's not cell phones,

803
00:34:31,152 --> 00:34:33,654
it's not-- yeah,
it's-it's something different.

804
00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:37,157
All of this is real unusual.

805
00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:38,575
That's... To me, it's amazing.

806
00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:46,918
Tom, you all right?

807
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,796
My head is killing me.

808
00:34:50,797 --> 00:34:52,256
- Is it?
- Yeah, right-right here.

809
00:34:52,257 --> 00:34:53,549
- In that spot?
- In the exact same spot,

810
00:34:53,550 --> 00:34:55,467
my head is-is hurting bad.

811
00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:57,386
Here, sit down.

812
00:34:57,387 --> 00:35:00,222
It just-- it just,
it's just right here, like,

813
00:35:00,223 --> 00:35:01,849
it's right-right here.

814
00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:04,184
That's not all right.

815
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:06,103
It's just throbbing.

816
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:09,273
- Like, that section right there.
- Is that-- is that the--

817
00:35:09,274 --> 00:35:10,524
is that the pain?

818
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,067
That's the exact same spot.

819
00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:13,902
No,
it's not the same pain I felt,

820
00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:17,114
- but it's, like, throbbing bad.
- It's the same spot, though.

821
00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,533
Well, let's get you the heck
out of here, man.

822
00:35:19,534 --> 00:35:21,620
I'm serious.

823
00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:26,458
- Right now.
- Yep, yep, yep.

824
00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:29,376
Come on, dude.

825
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:31,129
- Let's go.
- Come on.

826
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:37,301
Damn it.

827
00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:39,303
That's nothing to **** with.

828
00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:41,972
<i>I'm extremely worried
about Thomas right now.</i>

829
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,809
<i>I have no idea how serious
this injury could be.</i>

830
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:48,771
So, I wonder if
anybody else got affected.

831
00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:50,981
I don't know.

832
00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:54,026
They almost lost Thomas once
out here before I got here

833
00:35:54,027 --> 00:35:55,944
<i>and now I get here
and we do an experiment.</i>

834
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:57,821
<i>I would hate to think that
I did something that put him</i>

835
00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,114
<i>in harm's way.</i>

836
00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:00,407
This is serious, you know?

837
00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:02,201
Yeah.

838
00:36:02,202 --> 00:36:04,244
I was not expecting to get that
right at the end of the night.

839
00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:06,455
This could be life-threatening.

840
00:36:06,456 --> 00:36:11,127
He should... he should go
to the emergency room, I think.

841
00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:16,298
Just over a little
bit, like, right-right there.

842
00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:18,926
- Dragon? Tom? Where are you?
- Yeah.

843
00:36:18,927 --> 00:36:20,511
He's in here.

844
00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:21,680
Right there.

845
00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:27,185
Does it seem like
it's swelled up any?

846
00:36:29,062 --> 00:36:30,437
It's a knot?

847
00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:32,898
So, when-- out there,
it was right here,

848
00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:36,694
and now it's just right here.

849
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,612
Yep, there is,

850
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:40,823
there is that same fluid
from last time.

851
00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:43,283
Dude, you need to go
get that checked right now.

852
00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:44,368
I'm serious.

853
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:45,911
Like, right now.

854
00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:47,746
I think you
should call your wife.

855
00:36:47,747 --> 00:36:49,707
He needs to be in the
car, right now,

856
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:51,458
on the way
to the emergency room.

857
00:36:51,459 --> 00:36:53,961
<i>We're not playing a game here.</i>

858
00:36:53,962 --> 00:36:56,004
This happened, we saw phenomena

859
00:36:56,005 --> 00:36:57,631
and the same symptoms
are occurring

860
00:36:57,632 --> 00:36:59,717
when it put him
in the hospital for a week,

861
00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:02,928
<i>and there's no reason for us
to talk about it any further.</i>

862
00:37:13,648 --> 00:37:17,234
It's bizarre. I don't know
what to say about it. Bizarre.

863
00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:20,362
Bizarre is not the word.
It's scary.

864
00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:22,907
I think I should probably
call Brandon.

865
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:40,215
Hey, Brandon.

866
00:37:40,216 --> 00:37:42,468
So, I've got Erik here with me.

867
00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:44,428
It's kind of an urgent matter
I wanted to talk to you about

868
00:37:44,429 --> 00:37:45,637
real quick.

869
00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,931
So, as you know,

870
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:49,850
we had the team out last night.

871
00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:52,561
We were finishing up
our last experiment,

872
00:37:52,562 --> 00:37:56,899
and we started picking up
really heavy RF signals

873
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,234
and things like that
like we have previously.

874
00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:02,863
And, all of the sudden,

875
00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:05,449
Tom Winterton...

876
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:07,951
started saying
that he had a headache

877
00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:10,078
and then reached back to the
spot on the back of his head

878
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,998
where he previously
had his serious injury

879
00:38:12,999 --> 00:38:15,126
and said that he was
having pain there again.

880
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:19,963
I mean, it was apparent that
we really couldn't risk things.

881
00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:23,091
So, Kaleb actually grabbed him

882
00:38:23,092 --> 00:38:26,137
and drove him to the emergency
room to have more testing.

883
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:32,644
Yeah, dude, it has me
rattled as ****.

884
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,230
I think it is.

885
00:38:36,231 --> 00:38:38,273
I want to understand what's
going on but not at the expense

886
00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:39,942
of more episodes like this.

887
00:38:39,943 --> 00:38:42,152
I don't know that we did
anything that would trigger it.

888
00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:44,947
We shined lights on
the damn mesa, we did nothing...

889
00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:46,907
- Yeah.
- ...that would do it.

890
00:38:46,908 --> 00:38:49,284
That's what kills me, Brandon.
I-I'm armed to the teeth

891
00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:52,287
and I feel like I might as well
be carrying a flyswatter.

892
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:57,626
I don't-- I mean, it's-it's
beyond frustrating to me.

893
00:38:57,627 --> 00:39:00,003
All I know

894
00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:02,005
is that people are getting hurt
and we've got to figure out

895
00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:04,008
why the hell that is happening.

896
00:39:11,641 --> 00:39:13,226
I think that's a good idea.

897
00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:15,812
I will. See you.

898
00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:22,150
<i>What we've learned
at Skinwalker Ranch</i>

899
00:39:22,151 --> 00:39:25,279
<i>is if you don't
approach the ranch</i>

900
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,033
<i>with a degree of humility
and reverence and care,</i>

901
00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:32,078
bad things happen.

902
00:39:33,288 --> 00:39:35,163
<i>Did what happened to Tom happen</i>

903
00:39:35,164 --> 00:39:36,874
as a result of an experiment?

904
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:40,627
<i>I think the right strategy</i>

905
00:39:40,628 --> 00:39:43,171
<i>is to observe better.</i>

906
00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:47,050
<i>The fact that Thomas
has suffered another injury</i>

907
00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:50,012
<i>related to the one
that almost took his life,</i>

908
00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:52,389
<i>it makes me put in question</i>

909
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:55,058
if any of us
should even be here anymore.

910
00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:58,520
<i>Before I came
here to Skinwalker Ranch,</i>

911
00:39:58,521 --> 00:40:01,857
<i>I really didn't believe
the stories I'd heard.</i>

912
00:40:01,858 --> 00:40:05,736
<i>UFOs, cattle mutilations,</i>

913
00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:07,696
<i>shape-shifting animals...</i>

914
00:40:07,697 --> 00:40:10,032
<i>It all seemed too bizarre.</i>

915
00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:13,243
<i>But now that I've been here
and seen things firsthand,</i>

916
00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:16,079
<i>I can't shake the feeling
that something very strange</i>

917
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,915
<i>really is happening here.</i>

918
00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:20,584
<i>What's causing it?</i>

919
00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:22,169
<i>Where is it coming from?</i>

920
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:23,879
<i>I don't know.</i>

921
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,342
<i>But the bigger question
is this: is it dangerous?</i>

922
00:40:28,343 --> 00:40:29,885
<i>It's making me think:</i>

923
00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:33,723
are we putting ourselves
at risk just being here?

924
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,273
<i>I wanted to get
out here as soon as I could.</i>

925
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,399
Lights on the mesa,

926
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,568
Tom's injuries--
these things are real.

927
00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:48,779
<i>Something's caused
so much interference</i>

928
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,115
<i>that a $35,000 drone couldn't
connect to its controls.</i>

929
00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:53,408
It means there's a transmitter
here somewhere.

930
00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:54,618
<i>Where is this transmitter?</i>

931
00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:56,453
I get my biggest readings
looking up.

932
00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:57,955
It's coming from the sky.

933
00:40:57,956 --> 00:40:59,831
<i>In the basement,
there's a weird room.</i>

934
00:40:59,832 --> 00:41:01,583
What is that?

935
00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:02,835
We need to see
what's really in there.

936
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:06,838
It could be human remains.

937
00:41:06,839 --> 00:41:09,842
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